Do Go On - 147 - Annie Oakley, Little Miss Sure Shot

Episode Date: August 15, 2018

Annie Oakley was born into extreme poverty, but due to her skill with a gun, she became one of the most famous people in America. An amazing life of shooting, rivalries and clearing her good name. Buffallo Bill, Queen Victoria, Oscar Wilde and Sitting Bull all appear in this one. Report starts at 13:58 Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] and further reading: Annie Oakley, Documentary. American Experience, PBShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7yDuUmPUL4https://www.annieoakleycenterfoundation.com/faq.htmlhttps://www.biography.com/people/annie-oakley-9426141https://www.history.co.uk/biographies/annie-oakleyhttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/oakley-annie/http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/oakley-paper/http://mentalfloss.com/article/69559/annie-oakley-once-took-hearst-newspapers-court-reporting-false-cocaine-addictionhttp://mentalfloss.com/article/84392/11-sharp-facts-about-annie-oakleyhttp://www.historynet.com/encounter-buffalo-bill-at-queen-victorias-command.htm Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.

Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal, and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates.

Hello, Dave here just dropping in to talk about our UK tour in November. We mentioned it in this episode, but we hadn't put it on sale when we recorded it. So basically, if you missed it last week, we put on sale our UK tour for November. And to our absolute surprise, we sold out all six shows in about four hours. It was a little bit crazy, but thank you so much to everyone that bought tickets. Really blew our little minds in you here in Melbourne. We know a lot of people missed out. We're sorry about that, so we've spent the last week scrambling to get more seats or extra shows on sale.

And I'm very happy to announce that this Friday, Friday the 17th of August, at 9 a.m. UK local time, we are putting more tickets on sale for Leeds, Manchester, Bristol and Birmingham. We're still working on bigger venues for Edinburgh, but it's a little bit crazy because the fringe is on at the moment. We're trying to get that happening, and also a bigger show in London. So stay tuned for those guys. Or if you have any venue suggestions, please get in contact through our website or on social media. And just a little update, we are moving our Bristol show to a bigger venue. So it's going to be at the Hen and Chicken now on the same night.

All original tickets to the improv will be accepted there. And we are also releasing 25 extra tickets to the Glee Club show in Birmingham, the current one on Friday, November 16, as well as doing an extra. extra show in Birmingham the night before, also at the Glee Club, on Thursday, November 15th. We are hiring more chairs for the Manchester and Lead shows, so they're actually limited tickets, so if you want to get in those, I suggest doing so on Friday. I should say that every single show of this tour will be a different report topic. So if you want to come to multiple, that would be awesome.

Not going to hold that against you at all. All the ticket links to these shows, including our ones for sale in Melbourne and Sydney as well right now, can be found on our website, do go onpod.com. just click on live shows. Again, all these new shows and extra seats will be on sale at 9am Friday via do-goonpod.com. There is also a ticket link in the show notes of this episode. All right, thanks so much. We'll keep you in the loop with the Edinburgh and London shows.

And now on with the podcast. Thank you. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnock and I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hello, Dave. Hello, Jess. You usually say Matt's name first. So when I was mouthing along with what you were saying,

I went to say, Matt, and you said, Jess, and oh, boy, do I feel silly. It looked silly. Little glimpse here behind the curtain. I try and mix it up. In my mind, I'm not keeping score exactly, but I try and introduce you one and the other, then the other way around. Oh, that's nice. I really hope someone at home is keeping score.

Please go back and listen to the last 146 weeks. That'd be so sad. Don't do that. Well, if you're just listening to the intro and take it along, yeah. I suppose I was going to say, you don't have to listen for the whole episode. Yeah, true. We'll take your download. Thanks.

It wouldn't be. It's not that sad. No, that's nice. Yeah, I changed my mind and I'm allowed to do so. My sister just told me she's going back to the start. She's going back through again. What a bloody supporter. What a supporter.

Your other siblings. She hates it. She's just doing it to support. Your other siblings really need to pull up their socks. Yeah, pull up those socks. Pull them up. You're falling down. You're looking a little messy. You're like bloody scruffy.

I'm going to keep you back after school, young man. Sorry, I'm delving back into my... Yeah, I just had a flashback. Hey, tell you where we're not going to look scruffy. And that is on stage at our many, many upcoming live podcasts. Woo-hoo! Hopefully we're coming to a town near you. Next week, we got our show at Giant Dwarf in Sydney, Friday night, August 24th.

That's Sydney, Australia. Yes, pardon me. So excited about that. Well, that means that I'll be in Hobart on the 22nd a couple days before that. if you're in Hobart town. I'm sorry, you don't get Jess, you don't get Dave. But you do get... The best one of the pod.

Oh, okay. That's very nice of you to say. And a lie. Me at Jokers, and you can find out details about that on my website, Matt Stewartcom, slash gigs. And our UK listeners, just in case you missed our big announcement last week, we are coming to you, both England and Scotland, for some shows in November this year. It's insane.

So excited. It's insane. We are so, so excited. We've already sold a bunch of 10. tickets. Thank you so much to everyone who has done that. Really, you know, makes us less scared about this adventure. We are coming to Edinburgh, Leeds, Manchester, Bristol, Birmingham and London Town. Cannot wait to do that.

All tickets are at do go on pod.com. And, you know, we're coming to Sydney. We come to the UK. We couldn't leave out our home city of Melbourne. We've decided to put on a bomb voyage show. Yes. Before our UK tour, just a couple of weeks before that kicks off. We've just put on sale.

at Howler, one of our favorite venues in Brunswick. I haven't run this by you off Mike, so I'm going to do it now on Mike. Okay. You know how it's like a Bon Voyage tour and we're hoping to like raise a little bit of money to get us over to the UK. Just in case, you know. I was wondering if I could just have like a jug for donations, for people to give to me for souvenirs.

That's a pretty hard no for me. You buy your own souvenirs. I've got a bit of a magnet collection go. It's like a fun thing with my family. They bring me back magnets and I want to get some magnets. We'll do some budgeting. Yeah, we'll move some money around in the petty cash. Great.

We'll buy you a magnet. Thank you. But I still want to have a jar for donation. He's going to be sliding $10 into Jess's backpack. If anybody wants to sling me some cash and only me, I will be willingly accepting tips. I hadn't really thought about that. We're going to get to go to UK things where we can get little souvenirs, go to places that past episodes have been about.

Yeah, we can take photos. Man, when we go to Edinburgh, we have to do one of those ghost tours. No, scary. What town was the Birkenhair murders in again? That was Edinburgh. Edinburgh? Yes, we can probably go to the university where they keep the skin book. I don't want to see that.

I do. I think someone who works there is a listener. So maybe they can. Oh my God. Have you could organize some backstage VIP Skin Pass tickets? Oh my God, Dave! I'm just looking forward to making memories with you guys

and having fun with my friends. That's going to be very nice. I'm going to meet up with some friends all I'm over there. Ha ha! Burns! Oh, and hopefully we'll make some new friends with some UK listeners. It's going to be so cool to meet people. Dave is so lonely.

They've never met people before. Oh, Dave. Real experience for him. I've been practicing. Yeah? How do you greet somebody when you meet them? Have a go. All right, pretend I am a person. Okay. Oh. Line. I mean, he has made eye contact. That's good. It's a strong start.

Try it with hello. Okay, go again. Hello. Sorry, I missed. Oh. Oh, dear. Hello. We have got to work on this in the next couple months. Maybe after we finish up here. Okay.

Let's do some intensive. Oh, I see a montage coming, training montage. So this, the Howler gig, it's in Brunswick, really excited about that. It's going to be the biggest show I've ever done in Melbourne. So we are super pumped. Yes, please, come on down. It's so good. It's at the same venue that we do the monthly comedy room there first Wednesday of the month called Comedy Big Time,

if you've come to that before. It's at that very same venue. The Killers have played there. Yeah, the Killers and now do go on. And now do go on. The OCs have played there. And now do go on. I reckon they've,

we're going to put the killers, going to move them down on the leaderboard that they keep out of the back. Yeah. They're going on top. We're now the one where they're trying to sell the venue to touring acts. Do go on is also a venue.

What? We'll pay double. What is do go on? Hey, nah, believe in yourself. Celebs listen, I reckon. They like podcasts. Yeah, people too. I wonder who listens.

Goldie Horn probably. Hello, hello celebs. Goldie Horn? You're talking about Kate Hudson's mom? I reckon. Is that who that is? Yeah, good job. She's from great movies such as Private Benjamin.

When Harry met Sally? Nah, no. That's Meg Ryan. We've talked too long. We have. So something I've done on Patreon racing, I don't know if you guys noticed this, but I asked the question,

because someone had made a situation, suggestion as to how we could easily explain the show because I normally get Dave to explain it or Jess. Yep. And a man named Philip, bourgeois. I've never had to say that to her lab before. I think it's bourgeois.

Your whole face melted. Philip bourgeois. It was a mixture of panic and sussing out syllables at the same time. Philip bourgeois, he messaged suggesting a way we could in one sentence. And I said, oh, that's great. And I asked the patrons and started a thread. And everyone's suggesting their one sentence description of the show to get it started. So I might pick some of those out at random in future episodes.

But this is Philip. Philip's description of the show. Philip. Bourgeois. He says, humor meets education when three comedians take turns reporting on a real subject. Oh, I like that. That's nice and easy. I'm like, man, he made that sound easy.

Yeah, it's not hard. We get onto topic why the rest of it. report giver asking a question this week. Dave is doing the report. What is your question? My question on the topic that you two do not know what it's going to be. So that's how we get onto it. So the question is which historical figure is nicknamed Little Miss Shawshot? Sounds like a Marvel character. Little Miss Shawshot. It's a great nickname. Little Miss Shawshot. So it's a good shooter. A great shooter. A great shooter. Possibly the best. Amelia Earhart. Is that the pilot?

and expert Marx woman. Wow. Is it Shirley Temple? Yeah, she was great with a gun. Is it Calamity Jane? No, but... Is it Calamity Joan? Ooh, is Calamity in the name?

This person and Calamity Jane did know each other. Okay. Cromity Jane was a person? Oh, that was a musical. I thought it was a dog. They appeared at the same time in a show together Which I'll talk about on the show In a show

Would we know the name? I imagine if I say the name You'll... Okay, say it slowly Little Miss Shawshot is also known as Annie Get your gun Leibowitz

She's a photographer right She's a short shot Annie Shores shot with the camera Lennox It is Annie Oakley. Annie Oakley. Little bit short short, have you heard of Annie Oakley?

No. She's like a famous figure in American history, so often reference something. What's Annie Got Your Gun? Is that anything? It's a musical. It's another musical. Well, there is a musical about Annie Oakley, so I imagine it could be from it. Oh, we're both Googling. It's called Andy Get Your Gun.

Yes. Isn't that what he said? I think it was the first time. The second time I think I might have said. gotcha gun gotcha gun gotcha gun there is musical based on our life from the 1950s called annie gets your gun anytime i see that on a on a billboard outside of a theater and i'm with my mom i'm like look mom because her name's annie uh and i said look mom your musical's on or if annie is on um i say the same thing uh she loves it she loves being the car with me big fan one of their

favorite activities i was going to finish with this with them uh so nineteen forty six was the year the musical came out. The show, and I'd never particularly heard of it, maybe, you know. Isn't it funny that I've heard of the musical, but not the subject of the music? I reckon you would have heard of some of the songs. Annie, are you okay? You okay, Annie? You okay, Annie?

All week I've been singing Annie, are you Oakley? Are you Oakley, Eddie? Man, if I did parody songs. Watch out, weird out. With Dave Warnicky. So some of the shows, songs include there's no business like show. There's no business like show. And the song, anything you can do, I can do better.

Really? I don't know. Just kidding. Anything you can do, I can do better. No, you can. Yes, I can. No, you can. They did that in the nanny at a talent show.

Yes, I recall that. I do recall that. It was with the little daughter. Yep. Maggie, no. Yeah. Yeah. No.

She's the big one. Doesn't matter. I'm really looking forward to this report. Let's not get it down another nanny hole. Grace. Grace. Grace. Annie Oakley was suggested by Lauren from Sydney, who didn't give her last name,

but I'm sure you know who you are. You're the only one who suggested, so thank you very much. Mystery Lauren. And it was voted on by the Sydney-Shineberg Petroen supporter. So I chose this. And if you are a Sydney-Shineberg Patreon supporter, you get to vote on at the moment, the topics I'm picking. This won by one vote.

Wow. So if you want to get in there and you can really change the outcome of the show. That's tight. Super tight. Okay, so Annie was born Phoebe Ann Mosley on August 13, 1860 in a cabin in rural Ohio. Yes. Just a short three and a half hour drive from Gary, Indiana. God's country.

The Golden Triangle, the Golden Mile. The Golden Gold. You go from Gat, you can, I can you believe this within about 24 hours. hours drive, you can get from Gary. And it might have to be less than that. Might be even 12. Gary through Ohio into Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I mean.

Amazing. I don't believe that? I do believe it. Because I've said it before? Yeah, and I trust you. Thank you. Born to a Quaker farming family of English descent, she was the fifth surviving child of seven to her parents,

Jacob and Susan, which leads to, Me to ask. Surviving child? Yeah, they had even more children. Wow, seven surviving children. Yeah. Do they know? What was causing it?

Do they? Yeah, seven's a weird number. That bothers me. The magnificent seven. The family later lived on a farm in Greenville, Ohio. Greenville sounds nice. Paradise, I imagine. I assume.

Yeah. Well, her father Jacob often had to travel 14 miles to a mill. And in winter, he had to make the trek through the snow. One night he had to march home through a blizzard and didn't return until after midnight. And when he did, he could barely talk and was practically frozen solid. Sadly, he never recovered from the incident and died of pneumonia not long after. Oh, wow. Her mother married again, but his second husband also died.

Oh, no. Now I smell a rat. With her father gone and a stepfather. father also gone. Jesus. From five years old, Annie had to contribute to her to help her family of eight's survival. Annie trapped small animals such as quail for food.

Every evening, no matter how tired there were, Susan, the mother would gather them all around to sing hymns and pray. Her Quaker background, which is a type of Christianity, made her one to... And porridge maker. A Quaker. I think that's a brand of porridge called Quakers. You have Quackers.

Oh, sorry, quackers porridge. Quackers, get your oats. Which is their famous catchphrase. So she'd sing these songs to try and instill her values in her young children. Mary Jane, the eldest of the children, died of tuberculosis at the age of 15. Oh, my God. So tragedy is a bound. Tragedy after tragedy.

Annie's mother was forced to sell the pet milk cow named Pink to pay for Mary's doctor and funeral expenses. Pink is a terrible name for a cow. Well, you say that until you realize that when you milked it, it came out strawberry. Oh my God. Yum, pink milk. the best flavor of all. Yes. Suck at chocolate.

Yeah, chocolate's overrated. I'm a strawberry. I'm a banana man. Love a straw milk. Oh, I love a lime milk. I know that's controversial, but I like it. It's not controversial. That's fucking stupid.

Yeah, it's dumb. That's the dumbest thing you've ever said. You don't mix dairy and citrus dave. Are you fucking crazy? It tastes so good. God's country, Greenville. God's milk, green milk. You are.

So wrong. But it feels so right. So they had to sell the strawberry milk cow to pay for the doctor and funeral expenses. They all worked hard to stay afloat, but it wasn't enough. And the family quickly went broke and lost the farm. Annie's mother had to put her in the care of the local county's poor farm.

Here she did a bit of schooling and learnt to sew. Poor farm? It's basically like an orphanage with a bit of, you know, but you do a bit of work as well. I thought they were farming poor people. Which is odd. And doesn't make sense because people do. don't grow in the ground.

Yeah. That I'm aware of. I mean, back then they didn't know that, though. Yeah, they didn't know where babies came from. So this was the time in life she did a bit of schooling and learnt skills like sewing, which she became very good at. But from here, she was hired out as a live-in helper in a family's home in a neighbouring county. I mean, having a living helper makes sense to me.

Yes. If they're not living, you know? Live-in helper. Yes. Don't you think, like, if they were dying or dead, they'd be of no use. No, I think it's more of like a spiritual living. You know how some people are just kind of coast through life. Get busy living.

Yeah. Some people are just kind of, they just float along and they don't really have, they're experiencing, they're not stopping to smell the roses. Annie is living. She's living. Get busy living, get busy cleaning. She's lively. You're on the clock.

Come on, Annie. Time's ticking. Annie, get your mop. Anything you can mop, I can mop better. Yeah, you can, because that's your job. Get to it. No, any chance for her watching over their young child, the family was supposed to look after her and help with her education.

It sounded like a great arrangement. That, no. But in reality, it was anything but that. Oh. She was treated basically as a slave by an abusive family. Annie never revealed their names, but referred to them in her biography as The Wolves. Oh.

They worked her all day and locked her in cupboards as punishment. She later recounted her duties. She said, I got up at four o'clock in the morning, got breakfast, milked the cows, fed the calves, the pigs, pumped water for the cattle, fed the chickens, rocked the baby to sleep, weeded the garden, picked wild berries, got dinner after digging the potatoes for dinner and picking the vegetables, and then I would go hunting and trapping.

Oh my God. Mother wanted me to come home, but they would let me. I was held prisoner. They wrote all the letters to my mother telling her I was happy and going to school. So it's terrible for her. One night she fell asleep while sewing, and as a punishment, Mrs. Wolf, hit Annie and threw her out into the thick snow and locked the door. She was wearing barely any clothing and had no shoes on.

She later recalled she tried to pray in the snow, being very religious, but her lips were frozen solid and she couldn't even make a noise. So it's terrible and she had to endure this family for two whole years between the ages of 10 and 12. Oh, Jesus. At just 12 years old, she decided that she couldn't take any more of their abuse and ran away. She got to a train station but had no money for a ticket. A man took pity on her and bought her first.

and a train ticket, literally a ticket to freedom. She never knew his name but never forgot this stranger's kind gesture. When she got home, she discovered her mother could still not afford to care for another child, so she had to go back to the poor farm once again, this time paying her way with her sewing abilities. Right. Mr. Wolf, the abusive guy, came looking for her one day, but thankfully was turned away. Oh, thank God. To try and...

Creepy that he was like going looking for her, though. No. Ugh. Yeah. She stated the foot. Get a new slave. Yeah. Well, you want the slave that ran away.

She doesn't want to be there. Yeah. Get a new slave. Take a hint. I'm joking. About which part. I'm so sorry. Don't get a new slave.

Treat people better. Then she wouldn't have run away. That's true. Slavery bad is what I'm saying. Okay. So can we get that in writing? I'll tweet it. Okay, good.

Capital letters. Hey, guys. Tweet it now, how to context, please. Hot take. Hot take. Slavery's bad. Don't at me. Just quietly, Greg Norman ever got back to my tweet last week

when I offered you up for any comedy gigs that he might be booking. Just put you forward? No, he didn't get back to you, Dave, but... Oh, okay, good. His people are in talks with my people. He slid in? He slid into the DMs. And you're going to be on his super yacht anytime now.

Good to know. Look, Dave, I won't confirm nor deny. My appearance on a super yacht, owned perhaps by a golf legend. Oh, Tiger Woods. No, Dave, no, no, no. So you will deny that bit. All right, Dave. On with the report.

All right, Annie Ehrlich, she stayed at the poor farm for another three years before, finally being able to live with their mother at the age of 15. For this time, her mother had married for a third time. But the family was still very, very poor with a large mortgage to pay, so Annie couldn't go to school. she had to work to support the family, putting down the sewing kit and picking up a gun. Oh, yay, I got it! Annie, get your gun, okay.

Why? It's a gun I sew. I use my sewing skills. Yeah, she's come up with a new style of sewing. She shoots... Bang! Shutes balls of wool. Into different garments.

And she's still one of a memory. America's most celebrated artists. Incredible stuff. And crochet installations. Yeah. Crochet installations made with a gun. Yeah. But what's it saying? Yeah.

It's saying, ugh, death. It's saying bang. Quote unquote mad. Bang. From a young age, Annie was a gifted shot. At eight years old, she'd picked up a gun for the first time and she killed a squirrel outside her house. Jesus.

Nobody asked why the eight-year-old had a gun. A quote from Annie. It was a wonder. A beautiful shot going right through the head from side to side. Yay! My mother was so... Is this a serial killer episode? Because this is how they often start.

Yeah, killing animals, yes. And, you know, bragging about it in a diary. I guess she probably is some sort of serial killer. Well, my mother was so frightened when she learnt that I had taken down the loaded gun and shot it, that I was forbidden to touch it again for eight months. Forbidden. You banned for eight months. What an odd amount of time.

But when you're eight years old, And eight months, then you can shoot all the squirrels you like. You know the rules. It's like getting your first job, 14 and 9 months. Yeah. So at 8. 8 months for guns. At age 15, she took her father's old gun, gone.

Old gone. That's how old this thing was. It was called a gond. Wow. Pre-gun. Pre-gun. This is a pre-gun world. What do you call it?

A gun. I love it. Okay. It's quite good. She went out into the wilderness and began hunting. She sold the meat to a wild and. an Ohio grocery store. My gorn was haunting.

She sold the moit. That sounds real weird. To an Ohio grocery store, a merchant Charles Katzenberger, bought all of the game and he could provide, and he distributed it to local restaurants and hotels. She became the family's number one breadwinner, making enough money to pay off her mum's $200 mortgage. $200.

$200 he dues. Wow. What? I think I missed the era. This is about the 1860s. Eighteenths. $200. Let's go back there.

I'd be a fucking bajillionaire. Oh, my. Oh, man. I have at least $200. What? I'm not bragging. You've been holding out of me. I've been saving.

Can you pay off my mortgage? You can get your own magnets for sure. No, I need donations. Put down the jug. All right, fine. Then for food. Do they not want me to eat in the trip? I mean, that $200 is going to get you magnets and food, I reckon.

You can buy a house in Ohio for that much money That's true Annie later wrote Oh how my hut leapt with joy as I handed the money to mother And told her that I'd saved enough to pay it off That would be a good feeling That would be a good feeling But also like as you're getting the money

She's not giving an instalment She's waiting until she's got the whole amount And then she just slaps it on the table That's badass My mother's bought the house By shooting shit Yeah Yeah

That eight months you took the gun off me Cost us millions Mom, we'd have four houses by now. You really fucked up. Get out of my house. That's right. My house. Yeah, she owns a house.

It was seen as very unorthodox and improper for a teenage woman to be hunting. But Annie bucked the trend. And because of this and her prolific output of meat, she soon began making quite a name for herself around Greenville. As the meat lady. Annie Meatly. Annie Meat, your gun. No, that's not anything.

We're just throwing stuff out. It's no bad ideas. No bad ideas. Especially when it comes to musicals. Yeah. Yeah. There is no bad ideas. There's no business.

She's a few bad ideas. Yeah, but they all make it through, don't they? They do. They all make it through. There's no quality control. In fact, there's no quality. You're a musical hater. Oh, yeah.

Some reason I thought you like musicers. No, he hates them. You love them. I don't mind them. I love them. Yeah. You're the one who loves them. Okay.

You take the realism out of theatre and you combine it with the worst songs. That episode of Buffy though, when there was a demon making them all sing, that was pretty good. God, musical episodes of shows, that sucks. The Buffy one was, anyway. There's no way it was good. It's like the Scrubs musical episodes, like, come on. Yeah, I remember that. Don't remember the Buffy one, though.

They did a Colin Hay song. Yeah, that was cool. I like that Callan Hay cameo. It's the first time I heard to overkill Which is a bloody crack and tune Great tune Do you know who else is in Scrubs as a Viva Cameo?

Brendan Fraser Brendan Fraser The subject of our podcast Frazing the bar Which we haven't really done an episode of yet But we're going through An entire Brendan Fraser Yeah

We're going to watch Brendan Fraser movies It's sort of like your topic sort of drop off about the year 2002, don't know. It dries up a little. But before that. Before that, geez. Oh, boy. We are in work.

Anyway, sorry, Dave, do go on. The Mummy was one of my favorite films growing up. My God. You have great toast. Thank you. You have exquisite taste. But imagine the Mummy. That's a musical.

Oh, now that. I can imagine. Anyway, I'm not. I'm taking you back to the 1870s now. Shooting was a common spectator sport during this time with so-called sharpshooters travelling the country to demonstrate their abilities and holding competitions. If you're good enough, you could make a living from these demonstrations and competitions. You'd either get money from people paying to watch you or you could win prize money.

People would put down bets. Oh. One of these travelling sharpshooters was Frank E. Butler. Frankie Butler. Frank E. Yes, Frankie. Frankie Butler. That's a great name.

Born in Ireland in 1847. He was the oldest of five children and moved with a family to America when he was 13. He worked some odd jobs and married a woman named Henrietta Saunders with whom he had two children, but they later divorced. Oh, his children. Divorce in 1870? Yeah. Crazy. That's out there, isn't it?

That's out there. Well, that may be why he eventually developed a sharp shooting act and began to travel around America. He had to get away from something. Classic post-divorce behaviour. Yeah, we all lash out. Midlife crisis? Have a travelling. Buy a motorbike.

Some people get a motorbike. Some people start a travelling act. Some people date someone 30 years, their junior. Or senior. Oh, no. No? No? Just me.

On Thanksgiving in 1875, Frank's act was travelling through Southern Ohio. His big claim was that he could out shoot any challenger. And when staying at a hotel in Cincinnati, some farmers told him a great local shot that they thought could beat him. It was a little 15-year-old girl named Annie. Frank laughed when he heard of the challenger. But $100 was put on the line for the winner and he needed the money, so he accepted the challenge. Hundreds of people turned up to watch the match. And when Frank's opponent appeared, she was only five feet tall and weighed about a hundred pounds.

She's a very small lady. What's 100 pounds again? Don't worry. That's fine. Small. Small. Yeah, I don't know. Like 40 kilos or something?

Yeah, right, okay. Naomi. Right. Yes. 45 kilos. Right. And she's only five foot tall and that is as tall as she will ever get. Right.

So she's a little firecracker. Cool. So he was really taken off guard when this tiny lady comes out. They were to compete in a bird shooting competition. Both tutors went shot for shot, each hitting 24 birds in a row. Whoa! But then old mate Frank missed the 25th. Yeah, Frank E, you idiot.

Yeah, you idiot. Frank E. Shit. Man, I wish that was a heckler of this. Annie later recalled. You would do so well back there. Yeah, I'd kill. I'd kill as a heckler.

At a travelling gun show in 1982 or whatever. So Frank missed. Annie later recalled that when he missed, she stopped, thought to herself, I'm going to win. Oh, no, I don't think that. And then she shot a 25th bird and did win. Yeah, Annie.

Rather than... An E eats shit. So they've got like birds and they let them go. Yeah, it's pretty awful. It's pretty fucking awful. Symbols of peace. Yeah. What are we talking?

Emus. How big are these birds? Emu's. Emus. Birds were huge back then. A real big deal. Really, really big. Some of the biggest stars on the scene.

And they were shooting them. The only way to become more famous than the bird was to kill that bird. Rule of the jungle. The bird jungle. I get it. So Frankie lost. But rather than crack it, Frank did the opposite and fell instantly in love with Annie. Sure.

What kind of love? Like admiration for a child? Admiration. Being good at shooting. Oh yeah. How old he? He's 10 years older than that. Okay.

Which is like fine now in our age bracket, I mean. 15 to 25, nah. It's different. Different time. Offering her tickets to his next shooting show, he courted her for a time. In his professional shooting act, he was assisted by a dog. A French poodle named George. Which he would shoot every day.

He's okay, folks. It's all part of the act. He's all right on backstage. The dog, George is having a smoker there. It's just a living, you know. He played a day. Every day I go town to town. I go up there.

I go down. When the bank happens, I go down and I'm dead. You know, and that's a living, you know. I make a couple of... make a can I'll do a dog full of day But I'm smoking Is that a pipe

I'm smoking it like a joint But I'm smoking a joint pipe Alright I'm gonna ask Is this because I said he was a French poodle I don't know about I don't What you question me for

My parents were French Okay Am I French? I'm not French I forgot Yeah Sometimes it slips out Look, this next sentence isn't going to be surprising.

Annie fell for George the dog. Not surprising. That isn't surprising. He's a real charm. He's a real charm. So Frank courted Annie by sending her letters and cards signed by George. Okay. That is cute.

That could have gone either way. Eventually, she fell for him in a year later, now 16, they married. So, sorry, by this stage she has fallen for Frank and not the dog. Well, she initially fell for George. Yes. Then it became a menagerie. Then she found out that she was being catfished and that Frank was pretending to be George. And then she was mad for a bit.

Catfish is a dog. Then she realized it was sweet. She was dogfish. Frank was constantly jealous. Frank was constantly jealous. So he let George go in some woods one day. Just left him there. That didn't happen.

But she was finally able to get away from her life of poverty in Greenville. Yeah. And now she had a dog. For the next six years. Instant family. And a husband. But more so the dog. Also a husband dog.

Yeah, a dog husband. A dustbin. That's where they come from. Some people are married to the job. She's married to the dog. That's part of the job. For 60 years, Annie's supported her husband as he performed with his shooting partner, John Graham.

Staying in the background and not performing. So she was... Classic. You know, not part of the show. But one night on the road, John Graham got sick and Annie stepped in as her husband's assistant, basically holding up things for him to shoot at. Great.

Isn't that wild? So she beat him at shooting. And then she went to the background. Yeah, because that was a different time. Oh. So it's her job now in this act to hold stuff up to shoot. God, you'd really have to trust him. But on this particular...

I'd flip it around. Swip it and swap it around. Like, I'm a better shoot than you. Remember that bird you missed? How about you hold it and I'll shoot the target to my husband, whatever your name is? You hold the emu and I'll shoot it. Yeah. On this night, oh no, Dave.

But on this night, he kept missing. Fortunately, he wasn't hitting Annie. He was just missing the targets. Someone from the crowd, possibly a time-traveling Matt Stewart, heckled Frank and yelled, Let the woman shoot. Probably joking. Because they thought that'd be really funny to see a woman. You're really funny.

That wasn't me, Dave. They thought it was... Let the woman shoot. So, Frank, let the woman shoot. And Annie didn't... What a progressive husband! Annie didn't miss a single shot. Hitting the flames off of candles,

shooting at playing cards, and even lit cigarettes in her husband's mouth. Oh, my God. No, no. You people are idiots. Don't it that. Imagine how your face... Slightly too high, your nose is gone.

I mean, it's side on. She's not aiming. Matt's making it look like she's shooting through the cigarette into his teeth. Yeah, I mean, that feels risky. This way, this way. But still, slightly too high, top of your nose is gone. I hope it's a long cigarette. So she was a real success.

From then on, Annie was part of the show and eventually became the show as her husband stopped hanging out with John Graham. Oh, poor John. And eventually became her manager and assistant. Oh. The husband was the assistant, which was a big show. shift in norms for the Victorian society. But Frank was a big supporter of his wife and also an astute businessman who recognised his wife's

talent. From then on, he was more of a background figure, but he never shied away from that. He was happy for his wife to bid start. I want a Frank. Yeah. Letting her have a career. Supporting her? Get out of town.

I can't handle it. You're setting a very high standard here, Jess. I know. Supporting the partner? But I'm not going to rest until I find that. Good luck. Good luck. 150 years later, Jess, not much has changed.

It was around this time that Annie adopted the professional name of Oakley. There's a few theories as to where Oakley came from. The most common suggestion seemed to be. Wrap around sunglasses. She was sponsored sponsorship to Hill. Originally, she was Annie Rayban. What's her husband's her name? Frank.

Is his name? Eat shit. Frank, you can't even remember. fucking name. No, sorry, Frank. Frankie Butler. Butler. Butler.

So her name away from the circuit is Annie Butler. Yeah, okay. But when she's on stage, she's Annie Oakley. And the most common theories are that it was either the name of her paternal grandmother was Oakley or that it comes from the town of Oakley in Ohio. Or the suburb of Oakley in Melbourne. Yes. Many theories.

Probably the Melbourne ones. Many others. All the sunglasses. All the sunglasses. Actually, yes. Sorry, I beg your pardon. Yes, definitely sunglasses. She was trying to come up with a name when she bumped into a speed dealer.

Yeah. And he said, can I give you some speed if you buy a certain amount and you get free sunglasses? Yeah, free sunglasses. I'll throw in some sunnies for free. What part about Oakley is that for a time they were extremely cool. Yes. Now they're probably extremely uncool. Yet the price has stayed very high.

Yes. I think they're just cool in certain demographics. My brother. Jeff's brother. Not a speed dealer. Still wears them for some reason. When did that become the, I think probably stereotypes like the speed dealer. Rapp around sunglasses probably didn't help their brand.

Yeah, speed dealer chic really went out of fashion. It was a tough life on the road for the couple. Traveling by train from town to town performing their shooting act in popular variety shows that featured several different acts like acrobats, strong men, singers, dancers, people doing early comedy acts. Now they'd be an emcee, that kind of thing. A lot of the acts had near or implied nudity. They're a little bit risque, very risque for the time, I should say.

And being a conservative Quaker, Annie feared being thought of as a, quote, loose woman. That was a big fear. What, did that used to be a negative? Loose is like, I would say, call me loose and I'll say, thank you very much. Oh, you're such a loose unit, man. Stop it. Thank you. But back then in the 1800s, not so good.

Not so great. Not so good to be seen that way. Especially if you're quite conservative as she is. Oh, yeah, right. I guess that's still probably the case. Being a skilled seamstress, she designed and made her own stage outfits. All very conservative, her arms and legs all fully covered.

She was extremely conservative in her attire, and this really helped build her on stage persona, a tiny quiet woman who could shoot better than most people in the whole world. It was an entertaining combination. Yeah. So she'd sort of come out and she comes out, she'd blow kisses to the crowd, be very ladylike. And everyone would be like, what's going on here? And then she'd pull out a gun and just fucking shoot the shit out of everything and sort of like blow the roof off every venue.

Yeah. I'm guessing this isn't in the round, right? Like the crowd. Like a circus. The cheap seats. The cheap seats behind the lit cigarettes. It's like the splash zone slash murder zone. If you're wearing, if you sit in the front row, yeah.

Pull up your plastic because there will be blood. You know, it says like on theatre, like maps when you're booking tickets, it says obstructed view. Yeah. It's obstructed because you've been shot in the eye. Yeah. There's not... But only one eye and you will survive it.

And she meant it. If she wanted to shoot you in the eye, she would. Eventually, Annie and Frank's hard work paid off when they got a contract with a family-orientated circus. It was a better show to be a part of. But the pay was still a bit dodgy, sort of sometimes not coming through. But it was 40 weeks of solid touring work. So they jumped at it. That's a lot of weeks.

Constantly touring. On the road all the time. At least you're together. That's nice. It's an adventure. Eventually the show wrapped up and just when they were thinking they'd have to go back to these seedy variety shows that they hated, something new came along. What is it? What happened was on the same week that the circus wrapped up in New Orleans, another show came to town.

Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. Cool title, right? That is a cool title. Named after its founder, Buffalo Bill Cody. So Buffalo, because Buffalo Bill, I've heard of that. Yeah, Buffalo Bill. That's a guy. And the ice creams that we have here, Bubblo Bills, is a pun on his name.

Right. You know how the ice cream? So basically it's an ice cream with chocolate, whatever, strawberry, fucking the best. And then he wears like a cowboy hat. Yeah. Because that's Buffalo Bill. Yeah. And it's Bubblo Bill because the nose is a piece of bubble gum.

Yep. I love that. Bubbleau. Bills, yeah, it was a childhood favorite. So the Wild West show made by Bubblo Bubbleau Bill himself. The Wild West show founded by Bubbleau Bill. He had a son called Buffalo Bill. And it was the first of its kind and proved to be incredibly popular.

It was a kind of variety show, but it told the story of the Wild West. Buffalo Bill himself was a legendary figure, starting out as a bison hunter. That's what he got his name. And then being part of the U.S. Civil War, he deserves his own episode. It's a bit of a character. Isn't it funny, though, that he was this genuine dude, and then the way you're cashing in on that was to travel around doing a variety show? Yeah. I'm a famous cowboy.

Now I'm going to... Two, three, four. You used to do this for real, now I do it for... Not so real. Yeah, for all your sweet cash. But basically, so he's like an old figure famous from the Wild West and the cities, which were becoming more, you know, like modern cities, they still have. this fascination with the Wild West. A fascination.

Basically, they'd be a fashion show. Oh. And then they'd be fascinated. So basically, they'd bring these shows at the big cities and everyone would be like, oh, I guess this is what the Wild West was really like. Annie and Fracta, so the circus is wrapped up. Buffalo Bill's in town. They're like, well, let's ask if we can be part of this show.

So they ask Buffalo Bill, and they ask if Annie could shoot in his show. But he's already had a famous sharpsheeded by the name of Captain Bogartis. Not as good. Well, that is a great name. Nah, but it's not as good as Annie, get your gun. Captain Bogartis. Bogartis.

Did she think she could compete with him? Captain Bogartis? I really thought everyone would jump on that name. When I heard it, I took a good five-minute break. You thought I've earned a break here. Yeah. Fair enough. Had a twirl.

God, it was good. You had a twirl. I thought you spun around. Yeah. Boo! Sadly. Sadly. So I'm just imagining other people in Dave's house, just hearing a, boom, be like,

I was out a little break. Oh, Dave's read something interesting. He's eating a chocolate bar. Is that a twirl? Yes. Yep. Nice. Carry on.

So sadly, Annie and Frank had to go back to Ohio to rejoin the CD variety circuit because Captain Burgardis was already shooting. Sure. But just when they thought. They hadn't got what seemed like their dream gig. Buffalo Bill's steamboat sank on the Mississippi. Hooray! Captain Bogartis lost all of his guns and had to quit the show. I mean, get new guns.

I know. Did Annie get his guns? Bogartes got new guns. Well, Annie and Frank immediately, they heard about it. They wired Buffalo Bill and asked for an audition. Buffalo Bill was skeptical. He'd heard Annie was a good shot, but being a shooter himself, he wanted if such a tiny woman,

had the stamina to perform night after night. Nevertheless, he granted her an audition, which she didn't even need because Buffalo Bills manager, Nate Salisbury, just happened to watch her practicing before her official audition, and she was so good that he hired her on the spot. Oh, that's cool. I mean, great. It's so great.

So Annie Oakley joined Buffalo Bills' Wild West show in 1885. She started out low on the bill, but soon became an audience. favorite. She was a great showwoman, as I said before. She could throw six balls into the air, glass balls, which were filled with powder. So when she shot them, they exploded. And it looked really quite cool. She threw six balls into the air and then could pick up a gun and shoot them before any of them hit the ground. Wow. She shot with both her left and right hands and even backwards over her shoulder using a mirror to aim. What? She was so accurate that she could shoot a playing card

held sideways and split it into. No. Like the thinnest possible way you can hold a card. Someone would bravely hold that up and she would shoot it in two. She's just at a distance. You only have to be, her to have like a. An off night or just even an off moment where she's not fully concentrating.

Or someone like yells something, a little bit of distraction, yeah. Yeah. You know, I've been thinking about this lately because of friends and my brother as well recently like tradies and people who work with. power tools every day. Nearly everyone I know has done, I don't know if your brother's done this,

but they've had a slight concentration lapse and put a drill through their hand or a nail gun. My brother the other day put his thumb through a grinder. Oh. Down to the bone tendon coming out. He had to get all that fixed up. Apparently the doctor's like, do you want to see your tendon?

He's like, sure. I'm like, what? would not be looking, no. My brother shot himself in the hand with a nail gun. Yes, it's just, it's just something like you work with these things every day and these people are all very good with their tools, I'm sure, but you just have one little moment and she must have had those moments. Surely? She's the best guys. She's amazing. The best. That's so cool. Oh, but is your brother's thumb all right? Just to, will it work normally? I guess I hope so. The tendon is coming out. Yeah, that doesn't sound right.

No. But I saw him yesterday and it's all wrapped up. I took a photo of us doing the thumbs up. They're going to post it saying that I took on my brother at a thumb war. And it's very good content. And let's just say I ripped out his tent. How violent would the thumb will have to be? Well, it was to the death.

The death of the thumb. The thumb war secret weapon is an ankle grinder. Yeah. Ankle. Yeah. Well, I mean, you grind their ankles. the ground, you pin him. Bang, got him.

So in Annie Oakley's opening season with Buffalo Bill's Wildware show, she was seen by 150,000 people. Wow. She got such great reviews that she was moved up the bill and became one of the headline acts. The next season was on Staten Island in New York and was seen by half a million people. Holy shit.

Which at the time was the most popular show in New York City's history with Annie almost as famous as Buffalo Bill Cody himself. The next shows were at Madison Square Garden. Annie Oakley was becoming... Madison Square Garden. How long does that go back? It must be really old. I actually was a modern building.

Wow. She was becoming a genuine American superstar. I was just, I just had to double check this because when you said 1885, that's the year that Marty McFly goes back to the Wild West in Back to the Future Three. Oh, is Buffalo Bill Cody in it all? Because it's one of the most famous figures from the Wild West. But there are those things that are like shooting things and they build up to a scene where there is like a jewel sort of thing.

But there's also, there's a fair where they're selling guns and they've got shooting games and stuff. Awesome. Yeah. Just a little throwback to an old episode we did about the Back to the Future trilogy. Yeah, I thought 1885, because that movie's set in 985, then they go back to 1995. And they also go into the future in 2015 and back to 1885. It doesn't matter.

Obviously, I've got a long way through that before I realized that it doesn't matter. You're committed to the years. And I like that. Well, throughout her life, Annie got to meet some amazing, famous people, including Sitting Bull. Sitting Bull was the most distinguished and famous Native American Indian leader of his generation. It was his political influence that had drawn so many tribes and families together at the Little Big Horn in 1876. He was generally credited or blamed for, depending on whose side you're on. with the defeat of Custer, often called Custer's Last Stand.

So I'm just trying to paint the picture. He's a really, really famous guy. In March at St. Paul, Minnesota, Sitting Bull watched Annie and Frank perform. He was enthralled by her skills and her personality, and he arranged to meet her. He called her Watanya Cecilia, which is Lakota for Little Shore Shot. This would go on to become one of her most famous nicknames. Little Shawshod. Given the nickname by Sitting Bull.

The Annie Oakley Foundation writes, the following year, Sitting Bull travelled with Buffalo Bill's Wild West show. There, he and Annie became friends, and he adopted her not only as a member of the Hunk Papa Lakota, but also as a daughter. Annie took the honour seriously and wrote of Sitting Bull as her adopted father. Oh, that's nice. So they became really quite close. So everything's going great for Annie now.

What do we need to spice up this story? Oh, no. How about a rival? Ooh. Jenny. Jenny, Jokely. Is it Janney Jokely? I didn't think she was around back then.

No, she wouldn't be born for several decades. So in 1887, Buffalo Bills show sailed from New York to England to perform at Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee. Wow. What an honor to be invited. It's just sort of shows how famous they're becoming. And this wasn't just a small representation of Buffalo Bills show. No, he was bringing the entire thing.

Performers and animals he took included cowboys, sharp shooters, musicians, Native American Indians, 180 horses, 18 buffalo, 10 elk, 10 mules, 5 Texas steers and a dead wood stagecoach. Wow. So everything. It's basically Noah's Ark, but Buffalo Bill style. During their journey, for two days, a storm pummeled and rocketed the steamship, causing Cody and nearly every other passenger to become violently seasick. All except for little Annie Oakley. Of course. Legend.

Because she's short, close to like a lower center of gravity. Yeah, less movement. Yeah. She just shot at the waves. But also she's just a badass, probably. She's just a bad. Like, shot at the waves. And I read that on an article that was more about Buffalo Bills traveling. It wasn't even on Annie Oakley.

I read that and I was like, surely that's just pumping up the legend. But it wasn't even an article about how cool Annie Oakley was. So take it at face value I do. That's cool. So Andy and Freakry. on board, but so was Buffalo Bill's new shooting protege. A 15-year-old from California named Lillian Smith. Another girl, too.

She was a sharp shooting sensation, and she knew it. On the boat right over, she was heard bragging. Now that I'm in the Wild West show, Annie Oakley is done for. Okay, well, I mean, half of white people like Annie is the attitude. And you're just being a little shit, Lily. Yeah, the absolute opposite attitude. I think you can go fuck yourself. I'm going to call it now.

Lillian's a little bit. bitch and I hate her. Well, let me tell you a little bit more about it. Lilian Smith's uniform had champion rifle shooter of the world written across it. Oh, get fucked, Lillian. And she built herself as the champion. Buffalo built herself. She buffalo built herself.

As the champion girl shot. Get fucked. She shot with rifles, whereas Annie mostly shot with shotguns. That was the different weapon that they mostly used. Annie Oakley disliked Smith from the beginning. Of course she did. She's a little bitch. For one thing, Annie?

For one thing, Annie didn't like the little bitch But also, she didn't like the term champion I mean, it's not a fucking competition You're giving yourself that title anyway. You haven't earned it. And also, oh, then again, she's 15. You know, we all go through things at 15. She's 15 as well.

Her hormones are. She's when Annie started out at 15. Annie refused to use the word champion to describe herself, despite probably being the best shooter in the country at the time. More importantly, Lillian Smith was in Annie's eyes An immoral flirt, anything but ladylike. Tut, tut, tut.

Lillian. How do you feel about it now, Jess? An immoral flirt. Not on. That is not okay. You're sticking fat. I'm sticking fat? Is that not a phrase you're familiar with?

It is now. Possibly in 1885. Stickin fat. It just means. Standing by, like. Holding your ground. Yes, yes. Of course I am.

At this stage in the story, Annie is 26. But when this 15-year-old starts coming along... That'd be married for like 10 years. Yeah. At 26. That's fucked. When this 15-year-old comes along, so she doesn't look old,

she starts billing herself as being only 20 years old. She doesn't want to look like a grandma and apparent to this new protege. When the show opened in London, Oakley and Smith were given equal billing on the poster. Oh, dear. A slap in the... Equal buffalo billing.

Can't believe I missed that. Yeah, that's embarrassing for you, Dave. Which is, it's a real slap in the face to me, but this is also a real slap in the face to Annie Oakley. Yeah. She is, what the fuck she's? She's nationally famous. Fuck off, Lillian.

Bitch. Bitchlyan. Our pun work is extreme. Matt is hating me rag on this child, and I think that's making it more fun for me. Oh, yeah. This is a classic dindy situation. You don't like it when I call her a bitch, do you?

Look, no. Hey, you do what you've got to do. I'll find other words. Dave, continue, please. Lillian Smith, describe her in one word. Cow. Better? Cow girl.

Cow girl. So they got to London. They performed for 28,000 people, and many more were turned away. Huge. So it's all part of the Golden Jubilee celebration, which is many celebrations for Queen of Victoria over many nights. At this golden Jubilee performance, the one they were doing, were the kings of Belgium, the king of Denmark.

I should have said kings of Belgium and Denmark. I'm not, Belgium had one king. As well as... There was the first same-sex couple in the kingdom, two kings. Really? Yeah. I hope that happens one day. That'd be great.

That'd be the best. To me, the real king of Belgium is... Oh, yes. Yes. Also in attendance was Oscar Wilde. Oh, yeah, I've heard of him. Yeah, I've heard of him. of him. I've heard how he checked his wit at the

hotel famously. Declared his wit at customs. Yes, I believe it was customs. That's right. At the airport. As a weapon? Yeah, something like that. Do you have anything to declare? Only my wit. Right this way, sir. We'll be looking through your works.

You devil. So you've been selected for a random cavity service. Yeah, you're a piece of shit. We are going to bring you down. This is a genuine question. Stop fucking about. We are going to check all of your cavities.

For wit and otherwise. Do you have anything to declare? Well, I am da bomb. All right, mate, we are definitely taking the job. That is so stupid. You cannot joke about a bomb in an airport. So they performed the show.

The show was so. so well received that Queen Victoria herself requested a private show. So the Queen and a 25-person entourage were the only ones in attendance. Laughance. Pardon? They all got lap dances. Private show. I imagine there would have been so weird performing because there was 25 people in a venue that holds tens of thousands.

Yeah. Oh, weird. Hello, Victoria. Toria, Toria. But she loved it, Queen Victoria, and she asked to meet little Annie Oakley. Aw. The Queen had many questions for Annie Oakley. I stepped near Annie Oakley recalled

And she asked me when I was born At what age I took up shooting And several other questions And finished by saying You are a very, very clever little girl She's 26 Yeah I don't know if she lied to the queen Because remember she's telling everyone she's 20

When were you born? 20 years ago Been married for 10 years What's your star sign? Oh Oh no I mean you probably keep the same birthday I reckon

I'm lying to the queen I'm panicked Panic lying. January 6 till the night I'm 10 I'm only 10 I'm a time traveller

I got out of it I'll explain many things well love to me very very clever little girl that seems quite patronising very patronising but this is Annie Oakley recalling it To be called clever by Queen Victoria

meant the highest compliment And with that thank you Your Majesty I bowed myself out. Yes. Yeah, that's nice. There you go. Whilst in England, Buffalo Bills team were invited to compete

in the prestigious Wimbledon rifle competition. That's what the tennis tournament used to be. They shoot the balls. It evolved over time. It was the biggest shooting competition in England. Biggest shitting competition? Yeah. Like what measured on how big the shit was or just the competition was big?

Both. No, no. It was on style and flow. right this way, sir. Wow. He filled that cup. Why is he shitting into a cup? I don't know.

That's how they used to do it. It was the biggest shooting competition in England and it was an honour for these Americans to be invited to perform. So Lillian Smith, the young, The cow. And Annie Oakley went along. Lillian Smith shot first and shot terribly.

Oh, geez. So it was all the front. Cause it was. She's an idiot. And she left in a huff. Annie competed the next day and did extremely well, despite Lillian being the rifle expert. So it's a rifle competition and Annie's a shotgun expert.

And she still outshot her. Boom! Boom, Lillian! She was talking big. She felt, you know, insecure. Matt, don't you fucking side with that pace of work. In fact, Annie shot so well that Annie Oakley began to receive more press than Buffalo Bill himself and a bit of a bit of a ruckincky.

and a bit of a rift began to develop. It's his show. Yeah. But she's sort of, you know, in all the papers. Then the paper started to talk of a rift between Annie and Lillian and Bill. So there's sort of, you know, a lot of gossip going on. But isn't it amazing there in the papers? It's amazing there's a gossip columnist back then.

Yeah. After two and a half years with the show, Annie decided to leave the Wild West Buffalo Bill show following their last London show. We're doing our last London show. Sometime. Nice. Are we going to call it? Are the Phoenix in London?

That's going to be our last ever show. Oh, I didn't mean like that. I just meant of that tour. Oh, right. I was just trying to draw a parallel. Last show of that particular tour is going to be in London. Yeah, it was unnecessary in a lot of ways. Sorry.

A little quick time out for me. No night. All right, no, night. I thought it was good. You got to plug in for the London show. Yeah, great. Always good to remind you. find them.

I'm out over. I'm back to sell some tickets. Woo! So she's left the show. Annie did bits of work here and there with circuses and other Wild West shows over the next year. Because there's other rival Wild West shows. Buffalo Bill is just the famous one. She was starting to think her career had really stalled.

When out of nowhere, Buffalo Bill called her up and asked to perform with him in Paris. Paris, about a year later. Annie was very surprised, but they happily repaired their relationship. Young, Lillian Smith had by now left. the show, which may have been why Bill needed Annie so badly. Well, it feels like just good business from Bill to have his star in his show. Yeah, like, if she's getting a lot of attention, that's good. That's good for you.

Buffalo Dill, more like it. I think Bill had to swallow a bit of pride. Yeah. Call up and be like, look, all right, they're talking about you because you are the show. Yeah. So even over 100 years later, the Annie Oakley Centre Foundation is still taking shots at Lillian Smith, the young lady. It says this on their website.

In 1888, Smith ran off with a cowboy and surfaced a year later in the United States with her skin artificially darkened, calling herself Princess Winona the Indian girl shot. Oh, dear. That's weird. That's very weird. I think that's the foundation just being sort of really, yeah. So they had spray tans back then? I don't know how she's artificially darkening her skin, but that's what she, according to the

Annie Oakley Foundation, who are very anti-Lillian Smith, I will say. Fair enough. I'm on their side The Wild West show was in Paris for Expo 1889 The event that the Eiffel Tower was originally built for Wow That's cool

I love that for some reason That made me go I'd love to do an Eiffel Tower episode So it was originally built just for It was supposed to be dismantled after People went through What? Because people hated it at the time

And then they found that it could be used as a good aerial Apparently And that was one of the reasons where it still exists And it was It was also a huge success because over 32 million visitors to the city came that year. And attendees include previous report topics, Vincent Van Gogh and Thomas Edison. I've seen it. So me as well, you seen it?

You're at a pub, weren't you? Matt's seen it from a pub. Yeah. I think he's talking about this specific time. No. I'm just saying in general, I've seen it. I know, I've been, I've seen it a few times. I've never been up it.

But I've been up it. I read a book underneath it. You know that grassy era? I just had this afternoon, just chilling out, reading a book. I know it was pretty nice. A beautiful summer's day. That's a great day. It's a real nice memory.

I bought a ticket to go all the way to the top because there's like two spots you can stop. And I got to the like middle level. I was like, that's enough. I'm not going right up. Oh, no. Very high. That's high. Yeah, okay.

It's very big. I normally feel I get to the top of those things. I'm like, oh, this building's famous because you look at this building, not from what you see from it. So I normally just, I like to see him. It was cool to be near it. Yeah. But yeah, going up.

I think it was just because the list you're in is really rickety and I didn't trust it going up to the top. The queues are always so long. I did one of the New York big buildings, maybe the Rockefeller Center, I went up to the top of that. And that was kind of cool, but it's like, all right, I've queued to go up in a building. Yeah.

It's a nice view up here. I love a good view. Having said that, I didn't go up the Alpha Tower. But I love a good view, especially of a classic city like Paris. That's it. I'm going back to Paris and I'm going up there. All right. See you. Maybe at the end of our tour, I'll just hop on over to Paris.

Oh, fine. That's fine. See you. Matt and I can just fly home together. Do you want to come to Paris? No, no, I don't want to be just... I don't want to be an afterthought. Well, I'd rather go with friends, to be honest.

Well, and I consider you friends. After our intensive course, you're going to meet some friends. Yes. Good day. Oh, okay. That's pretty good. I've been reading the pamphlet. Nice.

So the one of the one. The Wild West show was in Paris, and was hugely popular, and Annie Oakley was, again, the talk of the show. She's a star. The king, because there's a lot of famous people in town watching her, the king of Senegal in Western Africa, offered to buy Annie for 100,000 francs to shoot the lions that devastate his country's villages. Sorry, who is he buying her from? I don't know. Bill or her husband. Or herself?

I want to buy you. Yes, it's a bit weird. I think the word you're going for is like, higher, maybe. I saw the report I read was he wanted to buy her. Not hire you. That's fucked. I'm going to let you know that she politely declined to be bored. So he was trying to buy her off herself.

Yeah. How do you separate yourself from yourself? I mean, there could have been a bad translation, possibly. Yeah. He was actually just asking to go out for a banana Sunday. And she said no, but she loved banana Sundays. I know. That was a real.

Well, real Candidates. I want banana Sundays. I haven't had one in so long, but what a combination. You got ice cream, you got banana. That's what I meant to say. Yes. That's fine. I love a Sunday too.

So it all went well in Perry. Annie toured Europe for three years following the expo and they went to all the major cities. There's a photo that I've seen. It's obviously a very old photo, but they're in the Coliseum performing in Rome, which is so cool. That's amazing. I'd love to do a live podcast on the Coliseum, just putting it out there. Italy? Italy, are you listening?

You may at us. I mean, I imagine we could just take a recorder in there and huddle in a corner. Yeah, we definitely could. Oh, yeah, let's do that. Let's huddle. All right, following our London show, we'll go to Paris, then to Rome. Yep, great. Much was written about her every city she went to.

Much of it was also made up, but it helped to grow her legend. Instead of, you know, having her origin story became crazier and crazier in many newspapers. Any publicity is good publicity. Well, you say that. You say that. Uh-oh. Annie continued to tour throughout the 90s being as popular as ever until 1901 when a train she was on was involved in a head-on collision.

She survived but suffered a spinal injury and decided to retire from the Wild West show. Instead, she turned to acting and started in a play that also showed off her shooting talents. So it was a bit of acting, a bit of shooting. Great. A bit easier for her. She didn't have to travel as much, that kind of thing, with her spinal injury. The show received rave reviews, but just when she thought her acting career was really taking off, Her name began to appear in the papers, but for all the wrong reasons.

No. This is the bad publicity thing. Two of William Randolph Hearst's Chicago newspapers ran a story about how Annie Oakley had been arrested for theft and had turned to thievery to support her cocaine habit and was now in jail for the crimes. I was literally going to say drugs and I was going to be joking. It's true. It said that she was destitute and alone. It was all a lie. What?

The headline ran, famous woman crack shot steals to secure cocaine, which I can't believe they missed a crack pun. Yeah, that is very disappointing. Crack shot steals crack. For crack. Or takes a shot at using crack. In brackets, it doesn't go well. Hurst was known for a sensational journalism, which often left out facts to sell papers.

What had really happened to kick off this story in the first place was that a burlesque performer who was going by the name of any Oakley had been arrested for theft and imprisoned in Chicago. But the papers just ran the story as if it was Annie Oakley and had talked of a cocaine habit that she simply didn't have. And fortunately for Annie, who remember is extremely conservative and a religious woman who thinks a lot about her reputation,

dozens of other newspapers around the country just regurgitated the story. So it became national news. Annie was devastated by the lies. The terrible peace nearly killed me, she recovered. called. The only thing that kept me alive was the desire to purge my character. End of quote. The piece really put her reputation and career in jeopardy. Annie herself contacted all the newspapers and most retracted the stories and many ran public apologies. But for Annie, this was not enough.

She brought liable suits against every single paper that ran the story asking for damages. One by one, she sued them all, obsessed with clearing her name. Over the next six years, she travelled back and forth around the United States taking 55 separate publications to court it was the largest libel action in US history at that point the newspaper magnate responsible for all this and one of the richest men in America at the time William Randolph Hurst was happy to fight Annie in court

he even sent a detective to Ohio to dig up dirt on her but found nothing because she was just a good person it took six years but Annie won 54 of the 55 cases Hurst himself had to pay Annie the small fortune of $27,000. She had cleared her name, but after legal fees and expenses traveling, she actually lost money overall. She didn't care because she won. It feels like that's an open and shut case.

It's like she definitely never went to jail. There's no record of that. Yeah. Let's not waste everyone's time. Why does there have to be a court case? I know. What dirt could he pull up? Unless that dirt is, yes, she did go to jail.

for stealing stuff to support her cocaine habit, then it doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Because, yeah, I know what you mean. Like, yeah, but she, one time she took a chair, somebody else was saving that chair for their friend. Oh, okay, a bit of new info here.

Oh, this supports the crack theory. Yeah, maybe she did do cocaine. Off this chair. Test the chair for crack. In fact, don't worry. We'll assume. Never mind. I assume there's crack until proven non-crack.

So she won, but it took a lot of energy and a lot of time. Yeah. She went back to the Wild West show one last time, but by this time, the shows were no longer as popular. Movies had become the common way for people to experience the Wild West, and she retired in 1913. Frank and Annie tried to live a normal, quote-unquote, domestic life for a time, but found it boring and sold up and traveled. I love them. Now shooting and hunting for pleasure. Also, no kids.

No kids. Which is just so, it's quite unheard over the time. They're just like, they're just travelling, just living. Maybe they figured out what was causing it and stopped it. He is husband goals. Frankie. Frankie. Bartler.

She was famous right up until she died and used her fame to promote women's fitness and taught thousands of women to shoot. She thought women should be able to. People didn't realize that, but she started Oz aerobics. And, yeah, those early videos were all her... And do you know they found early blueprints of Zumba amongst her notes? Is she Zombering with guns?

Zumba Zumba Zumba, Zambah, Zimbab. Bang. Is that what you think Zumbus? It's all in the shoulders looking at Dave. And saying Zumbah, Zumba, Zumba, Zumba. I mean, how else could that word possibly exist? Yep, you're right. I'm Zumbering!

And Zumba and stopping Zumba. Well done, guys. You moved your shoulder once. Hit the showers. That was a great session. Of Zumba. Of Zumba. Copyright.

A Zumba, Zumba, Zumba, Zumba, Zumba. Whilst an action, she could in hindsight be pointed to as an early feminist, for example, when Prince Edward became King Edward the 7th in 1901 after Queen Victoria's died. Annie was presented to Prince Edward and Princess Alexandra after a performance of Buffalo Bill again. She made a statement about the democratic equality of American women. She ignored Edward's outstretched hand and first shook the hand of Princess Alexandra before going to the king

which was against protocol She's just taking her to the man Yeah basically it's like you're the king But I'm going to go to your wife first Yeah I'm going to go to the princess Back then in that royal family Could be all three

I know you only listed two things Could be his daughter as well Yeah She also advocated for equal pay for equal work So you know She fought a lot for women However, one thing that I found very strange, she didn't think women should vote. So she wasn't a supporter of suffrage.

There you go. So she supported women on many, many fronts. I wonder what the logic there is. Possibly she just didn't believe in politics at all. Have you seen some of the arguments like the ads for the anti-women getting the vote are so confusing. They're like, they'll either just be doubling up their husband's vote or negating it. So what's the point? that was one of the arguments against women getting the vote

It's like, it's that to anyone There's two major parties And she could vote for either Yeah, but if she votes But if she votes the same as her husband You know, they'd just double on the vote And then if she votes against Negating it

So, you know, just like the husband vote It doesn't make any sense I just repeated exactly what I said the first time So sorry It was worth pointing out how dumb that is I know I don't think my head's got around it still.

I like to think that if Annie Oakley was alive now, that she would see sense on that topic, but there you go. One of her last performances came at a charity event in 1922. She and Frank, by now her husband of 46 years, put on a show, and although she felt very rusty, then now Whitehead 62-year-old Oakley still put on an amazingly reviewed show. Again, she was the day's star attraction.

She hadn't publicly performed for a long time, but she still had it. 1922. That's cool. She was involved in another accident later that year, this time a car accident, and suffered a broken hip and ankles and never walked again without a leg brace. Before she died, she had her medals melted down and she donated the money that they made to charity. The medals would have definitely been worth more if not melted down. I know Annie Oakley's medals now would be worth a lot, Annie. Annie Oakley died in her sleep on November the 3rd, 1926.

She was 66 years old. 66, that's the year that the Saints won the apprenticeship, but not quite relevant. No. Just is so disgust. No, no, no. We just lost a legend. Come on.

No, I was weirdly pleased that, like, she died peacefully in her sleep, not like, she was murdered. Or, like, she was in a brutal accident and died instantly at the scene. No gun accidents. Yeah, she just died in her sleep. Old woman at the time. Now that's not old, but at the time, that's a pretty good life. That's good eating.

Especially with such a horrible childhood. Yeah. She really made a lot of her life. Her husband Frank died just 18 days later. Oh, broken heart. Some say he refused to eat after his wife died. He just faded away. But he was 10 years older than her.

Yeah, so he was 76. Wow. They were buried together in Greenville, Ohio, not far from Annie's childhood home. I cannot handle these two. They are my favourite. We've got to go to Greenville one day. Put it on the list, Dave. I think there's, I did breathe.

There's a plaque near. her childhood farm saying that this is the home of young Annie Oakley. This is near the home of Antiochle. Ooh, that's so cute. You're in the vicinity. So you're talking about children. I wanted to end just with a couple of Anniocally facts. Not fun facts, but...

Facts. Thank you for establishing early that they are not fun though. Get their expectations. But you can tell me if they're fun. I'll let you know. Annie and Frank never had children of their own, although they did have a dog named Dave. After Frank's friend Dave Montgomery

He became so used To call it Monty Dave is a great name for a dog No it's not There's a Warnicky cat out there There is Let's get a couple of Dave dogs He became so used to the sound of gunshots

This is Dave That his owners put him in the show He was well trained enough to sit And have an apple shot off his head Don't do that That is one you don't want to go wrong But I mean she's taking shots at her husband as well So she could easily kill both her family members

In one show One little slip Yeah And she didn't. The whole 66 years. I didn't read anything going wrong. She was shooting from birth, right? A whole 66 years shooting guns.

Wow. I love a... That's a fun fact. I would have said. That's fun. Annie Oakley has a bit of legacy. Her name has become slang for free tickets. I've never heard this phrase before.

This is because Annie used to shoot holes in things like playing cards. And because free admission tickets for theatrical shows at the time had holes punched in them to avoid them being onsold to other people. So you got giving a free ticket. There's got a hole so you can't bloody sell it. Isn't that funny, but it would still work to get you in? Yeah, I don't know why you. I know, but I think it would be like, people would be like,

you got that ticket for free. But because of that, these tickets came to be called Annie Oakley's. Ah, Annie Oakley's. You got any Oakley? Annie Oakley. So that's what the Michael Jackson song is about. Free tickets. Free tickets.

Are you okay and Eocley? So she made it as a slang. But that is the end of my report on Little McSawshort. smooth criminals about someone selling dodgy tickets. The crime of the century. Is it? No. Okay.

Well, I shouldn't have talked over Dave's outro then. Yeah, I was just going to say. That is the end of my report on Little Miss Shawshot Annie Oakley, who I personally, thank you, thank you very much, had no knowledge of before this report. And what an incredible life. I knew absolutely nothing, and that was fascinating. That was so cool.

She was really cool. What a bad bitch. I knew the name of the music. about her life, but I didn't even I didn't even realize it was a better real person. And when we first met Frank in this story, I was like, my bloody, here we go. Yeah, we go. Older man.

I was wrong about Frank. What a bloody sweetheart. He stuck by her. He stuck by her. What does that mean? Because as the start, it sounds a bit like, you know, he's an older man coming in. But really, it was true love. They had, by the end, it was close to 50 years of marriage.

That's so cute. They both died. Just living and true. traveling, they got bored by the domestic life so they just travelled. Fuck yes. Yes. That's the best. It was a beautiful tale that started out

with pedophilia. We'd like to thank some people from Patreon and before Matt gets our fat quote or question, if you want to support the show and get bonus rewards in exchange, you can go to patreon.com slash do go on pot at any time and pledge any amount. And

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You get your bang for your buck anyway. Oh yeah, damn right, you do. And our fact quote a question, Matt, what is that? This is from a Patreon supporter. Yes, it's from a Patreon supporter. Katerina Kouierrez. Sorry if I've butchered that,

Katerina. And they the fat quote or questioners get to give themselves their own title and Kidarina has given herself the title cat dog aka senora presidente of Taco Bell Love it, yes Cat dog, imagine that on a business card, Cat dog, aka Senora Presente of Taco Bell

I do two jobs. A big deal. But she's also given an option so you two can choose. Do you want a question or a fact? Question. Fact. I'm going to have to go with Jess You got in first

Here is Katerina's question If I don't like the question Can I then opt for fact I think so What a real slap in the face You just yell out fact This is a great question Alright

Here's the question If you were each a vegetable What would you be Carrot No potato I'm going to let him finish Just in case Yeah smart

And after choosing your vegetable Who would get eaten first Oh Katerina, just to get the ball rolling, she'd say her personality is carrot-like, but she would definitely choose a broccoli first. She'd eat the broccoli first. That's what she'd choose. Okay, well, my favourites are carrot and potato.

And both of those can be eaten in so many different ways, which I enjoy. Okay. So I'm going to say potato also because of my Irish background. Oh. The food of my people. Yes. Okay. I want to say potato, but who would get eaten first?

Potato is great. Well, we've got to figure out. Yeah, okay. Okay, I'm thinking I'm a big fan of pumpkin. Oh, I was thinking pumpkin. I was thinking potato and I'm like, I can't pick potato now. I was thinking pumpkin. Well, third choice for you then.

Pumpkin. Love it, roasted, love it mashed. I love it in a soup. It is, it's a great, simply a great. It's a versatile vegetable. And it really spices up, like the visual sensation. that's on a plate as well. I don't cook.

What am I talking about? No, we know. Visual sensations of a plate. Am I right, Ken Arena? Am I saying that right? No. Sensation? What would I be?

I think, would you accept peas as a vegetable? Yes. I'll take it. Okay. They're a vegetable. Peas with gravy is, that is a life treat. Okay, so what's the only kind of,

it's one of those treats that you can only enjoy within your life. That's beautiful, Matt. Thank you. So who's getting, So what's Katerina again? So now I think that makes not a bad little side dish next to your main protein. All right. You've got four.

We've got four. Should we all to say which one we'd go for? First carrot, potato, pumpkin. Oh, well, I'd save my favourite for last. So peas to the end. I would start with carrot and then finish with carrot. Oh, carrot sandwich. Like I'd save a bit of carrot.

That's brilliant. I think, carrots your bread. Yep. I would start with potatoes because usually in a roast, that's the bulk of the roasts potatoes. I do love a roast potato. So I feel like you can start with a cup. couple of potatoes and then save your pumpkin and your carrots for later because they're less

prevalent. I'd probably be working through my potatoes. Yeah, those potatoes. Cut them open a little butter or sour cream or something on top. What if you've got mashed potato and then you use that to pick up some of your peas? Oh yeah, that's true. That's a good shit. That's a good combo. There's so many ways of... I'm hungry. Me too. It's lunchtime here. It is lunchtime. Thanks so much for that, Katerina. We'll come back around because obviously, There's not a heap of people in this section. So we're going to cycle back around and go through back to the start. I like to think that it was Camerina's vote also.

They got little short shot Annie Oakley over the line. How could we ever know? We'll never know. And then also what we also like to do at the end of our episodes is do some shoutouts to some Patreon supporters. And Jess normally comes up with a bit of a game for us to play. I say game. Is that fair? Yeah, it's a game.

Can it be a little miss, little miss to something? Love it, yes. Little miss, little miss. because she was a big fan of the Little Miss, Little Miss, Little Miss, Little Miss T-shirt. Appropriate. And a Little Miss Sunshine also appropriate, depending on my mood. I can be a ray of sunshine or I can murder you with a look.

Little Miss Murder. Is that what chatterbox does? Nah. So I'd love, can I, would you mind if I kick it off? Dave, would you mind looking up this place over a go, Coventry? from Coventry in the West Midlands of Great Britain in England, I'm pretty sure. I'd love to thank, Troy Vinton Brown. Troy Vinton Brown, Little Mr Snuggles.

Oh, I love that. That's nice. She's off. Now let me tell you, Coventry. That's so cute. Little Mr. Snuggles. I don't want to put any pressure on our man. Troy boy, but Coventry is but a 30 minute drive if you left right now to Birmingham

where we're doing our show. Troy, will you be there? Troy, come on. That would be so good to see you there, Troy. We love that. Please come on. Brilliant names of it. I drive 30 minutes to get here to the podcast, Troy.

Yes, come on, mate. If you're saying that's too far, mate. You could also do it a 40 minute train drive. Train drive, we have you driving the train. Are you a train driver? Oh, there's a couple of, I imagine, more expensive ones. Virgin trains or cross-country. Only 20 minutes, Troy.

20 minutes, time. Come on, Troy. I'm acting like he may have already bought a ticket. Come on, little Mr. Snuggles. We'd love to snuggle year in real life. I'd also like to thank from Queensland, from Close Burn, which I'm pretty sure is in Brisbane, because I met her in Brisbane. Chelsea, Pethwick. Chelsea.

Pethrick. Chelsea, Pethrick. Petrick. What do you got, Jess? You're on a hot streak already. A little miss snuggle! No, no, that's silly. Did you just have something?

No, she had some great tattoos, so can you work that in? Little Miss inked? Love it, yes. Little Miss Inky. Little Miss Inky. That's nice. That's cute. And I'm keeping the geography up.

Chelsea lives a 40-minute drive from Brisbane and she came to our show. So Troy, if you don't do it. Troy, honestly, you'd best have a really good excuse. You've got to be out of the country. Come on, mate. If you're in, if you're at home when we're there in November, you have no excuse. But if you have a good excuse, please don't feel any pressure. Let us know what your excuse is and I'll let you know if it's a good one or not.

No pressure. Come on, snuggles. No, but no pressure. But if nobody comes to our shows and then we'll never come back to the UK and we'll probably stop the podcast altogether. I mean, it's so negative. Can't we? Come on. I quit.

Unless this tour is a huge success. Little Miss Sunshine over there. Can I think a couple of great people? I'd like to thank from Lindenhurst in New York State. New York. In the United States, I would like to thank, great name here. Anthony or Anthony could be either. D. Torres.

Little. Mr. Jim Junk. Jim Junkie Oh! He's ripped Yeah he's ripped Little Mr Jim Jim Jum

What were you gonna say Toros? Because that makes it sound like bull Yeah Toro is bull Little Yeah little Little Mr. Bull

I like Little Miss Jim Jim Jumkey Love it Oh they weren't little The Misters weren't little Were they It was Little Miss Sunshine No they were little Misters No they were just Mr.

Strong I'd like him to be Little Mr. Jumke could beat Mr. Strong in a fight big time. Thank you, Mr Torres.

You're Googling it because you don't believe me. Because I'm sure they would have done Little Mr. Oh, you're right. That's weird. That's weird. That's weird. That's just sounds strange. Why would you miss that opportunity to do?

I know, because it's so cute when they're little. I would also like to thank from Dallas, Texas. Mani Gaza. Oh, Mani Gaza. Pantera country. Little Mr. Pantera. Black Tooth Grin

Little Mr. Yeah, Little Mr. Grinner Grinner Grinner Little Mr Grinner Love that A big grin from Manny Gaza

The Black Tooth Grin Can I thank some people? Yes please Thank you so much I would also like to thank From New York Lewiston Specifically in New York

I would like to thank Christopher Davis Oh Chris Hello Chris little Mr. Lion Tamer. Ooh, I like that. That's nice. That's fun.

Do you reckon? And I guess in this world they're all little, right? Yeah. Are the lion's still big? Yeah. Imagine like a mini line tamer. Cute. Like a little kid size person.

What was it? What's Annie's version of this? What are we basing this off? Little Miss Shawshot. Little Miss Shawshot. Little Miss Shawshot. Oh, that's hard to beat. But I think we've done it five times in a row.

Snuggles. Yeah, now. Move over, Annie. Thank you, Chris. And I'd also like to thank from Red Beach in Auckland. That just sounds beautiful. Just across the pond in New Zealand. I love New Zealand so much.

Stephen Brown. Dave, little Mr. Wow. Panicking. Little Mr. Panic. Great. Yes, he's very anxious. Middle name is Never.

Oh, wow. You got me. Little Mr. Never Panic. Love it. Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. Stephen Brunner, really look up to you for courage because I panic a lot. Thank you so much to all the people that support us at Patreon.

Remember, you just go to patreon.com slash do go on pod. Cheap in a little bit. That's where all your dreams will come to. Helps the show grow. It's one of the reasons we're coming to the UK. And one of the reasons we're hopefully going to come to the US next year. Yes, we're getting really, really close to our Patreon goal. I think we're something like high 80%, maybe getting close to 90% of the way there,

which is ridiculous. I can't believe we actually are going to go and do a show in Gary, Indiana, assuming that Gary lets us. I'm going to have a word to Gary himself. Thank you. Yeah, you have a, you're on good terms. You've got one of those Batman-style red phones to the mayor of Gary, I assume. I think if my dream would be to do an episode about Gary in Gary.

Oh, God. History of Gary. Yeah. That sounds like a great little topic. I think it could be really good. You talk about the Gary, who the town's named after. Talk about the Jacksons. talk about the rail cats, the short-lived steelheads basketball team.

What about other famous Garrys? Other famous Gary Busey. Oldman. Gary Gary Beers. Oh, he's got to be the king of the Garys, surely. So Gary they named him twice. He's so Gary. Oh, he's so Gary.

Could not be any more Gary. Gary Buccanara, old AFL player. I don't know any other Garys. My uncle Gary? Dave's Uncle Gary could get a mention. I'll go through a. quick list, but I think I really would like to focus in on the town. Nah.

Garry's. No, do a Gary Beasier report. That would be good. That'd be fun. Imagine if we could do it at the Railcats baseball stadium. Do you think we could get? Are they the ones that are sending you? Are they the ones that are sending you?

Yeah. That conversation stopped. Oh. I'm not going to send a follow-up email. He said he was going to email me the next day and he has not done that. It was three months ago. It's a while ago. If you're on good terms with this team, maybe we could organize to, like, hang out in one of their, like, locker rooms or something.

We definitely have to go to a game for sure. Oh, yeah. So good. Oh, my God. Anyway, we can continue dreaming off the pod. As we can. You can get in contact with us anytime, suggest a topic. Just got a do go on pod.com.

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Just enjoy yourself now. And yeah, check out the show notes if you want to know any more details about those live shows. Please. A little too desperate. Please. Better. Please. I need it.

Yeah. So, thanks again for listening. Well, hopefully see you at a live show, Sue. But until next time, I'll say thank you. And goodbye. Later. Bye. I was hired at a different note.

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