Two In The Think Tank - 147 - Annie Oakley, Little Miss Sure Shot

Episode Date: August 15, 2018

Annie Oakley was born into extreme poverty, but due to her skill with a gun, she became one of the most famous people in America. An amazing life of shooting, rivalries and clearing her good name. Buffallo Bill, Queen Victoria, Oscar Wilde and Sitting Bull all appear in this one. Report starts at 13:58 Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] and further reading: Annie Oakley, Documentary. American Experience, PBShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7yDuUmPUL4https://www.annieoakleycenterfoundation.com/faq.htmlhttps://www.biography.com/people/annie-oakley-9426141https://www.history.co.uk/biographies/annie-oakleyhttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/oakley-annie/http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/oakley-paper/http://mentalfloss.com/article/69559/annie-oakley-once-took-hearst-newspapers-court-reporting-false-cocaine-addictionhttp://mentalfloss.com/article/84392/11-sharp-facts-about-annie-oakleyhttp://www.historynet.com/encounter-buffalo-bill-at-queen-victorias-command.htm Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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And now on with the podcast. Thank you. Hello and all welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Honeckian. I'm here with Just Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hello Dave, hello Jess. Usually say Matt's name first. So when I was melding along with what you were saying, I went to say Matt and you said Jess at all boy do I feel silly. You look silly. Little glimpse here behind the curtain

I try and mix it up in my mind. I'm keeping I'm not keeping score exactly But I try and introduce you one than the other then Then the other way around. Oh, that's nice. I really hope someone at home is keeping school Please go back and listen to the last hundred and forty six weeks. That'd be so sad. Don't do that Well, if you just listen to the intro, I'm just gonna say you don't have to listen for the whole episode. Yeah, true. Well, take you down, thanks.

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She hates it. She's just doing it to support. Your other siblings will need to pull up their socks. Yeah, pull up those socks. Pull them up. Pull them down. You're looking a little messy. You're looking pretty scruffy.

Yeah, I'm going to keep you back after school, young man. Sorry, I'm tilting back into my... Yeah, I just had a flashback. Hey, tell you where we're not going to look scruffy. That is on stage at our many, many upcoming live podcasts. Woohoo! Hopefully we're coming to a town near you. Next week we've got our show at Giant Twarf in Sydney, Friday night, August 24th.

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weeks before that kicks off, we've just put on sale at Howler one of our favorite venues in Brunswick. I haven't run this by you off mic So I'm gonna do it now on my okay You know how it's like a bon voyage to it and we're hoping to like raise a little bit of money to get us over Just in case you know I was wondering if I could just have like a jug for donations For people to give to me, for souvenirs. That's a pretty hard no for me.

You buy your own souvenirs. I've got a bit of a magnet collection, guys. It's a fun thing with my family. They bring them magnets, and I want to get some magnets. We'll do some budgeting. We'll move some money around in the petty cash. Great. We'll do some budgeting. Yeah, we'll move some money around the petty cash. Great. We'll buy you a magnet.

Thank you. But I still want to have a jar for a donation. He's been sliding $10 into Jess's backpack. Yeah, if anybody wants to sling me some cash and only me, I will be willingly accepting tips. I hadn't really thought about that. We're going to get to go to UK things where we can get little souvenirs,

go to places that past episodes have been about. Yeah. Can you take photos? Man, when are we gonna Edinburgh? We have to do one of those ghost tours. No, scary. What town was the Birkenhaib murders in a game? That was Edinburgh.

Edinburgh. Yes, we can probably go to the university where they keep the skin book. Oh, I don't want to see that. I do. I think so many works there. There's a listener, so maybe they can... Oh my God, if you could organize

some backstage VIP skin pass tickets. Oh my God, Dave! I'm just looking forward to making memories with you guys and having fun with my friends. I'm just gonna be very nice. I'm gonna meet up with some friends all over guys and having fun with my friends. I'm just gonna be very nice. I'm gonna meet up with some friends all over there. And, but!

Oh, and hopefully we'll make some new friends with some UK listeners. It's gonna be so cool to meet people. That, that, that, that, that, that, they've had a lot of people before. Oh, that, really? Yeah, I've been practicing. Yeah, how do you, how do you greet somebody

when you meet them? Have a go. All right, pretend I am a person. Okay. Oh. Line. I mean, you have made eye contact. That's good.

So strong stuff. Try, try it with hello. Okay, go again. Hello. Oh, sorry, I missed. Oh. Oh, dear. Hello, we have to work on this. We'll work on this. Maybe after we finish up here. Okay, let's do some intensive. I see a montage coming. Training montage. So this the HALA gig, it's in Brunswick,

really excited about that. It's going to the biggest show of ever done in Melbourne. So we are super pumped. Yes, please come on down. We're so good. It's at the same venue that we do the monthly comedy room there first, when they're the month called, Comedy Big Time, if you've come to that before.

It's at that very same venue. The killers have played there. Yeah, the killers and now do go on. And now do go on. The OCs have played there. Yeah. The killers and now do go on. And now do go on. Yep. The OCs have played there. And now do go on. How are we going to put the killers? We're going to move them down on the lead aboard that they keep out the back. Yeah. They're going on top. We're now the one where they're trying to sell the venue to Touring Acts. Do go on, there's also been a lot. What? We'll pay double. What is Do go on? Ha ha ha.

Hey, nah, believe in yourself. Celebs listen, Aurekin. They like podcasts. Yeah, people too. I wonder who listens Goldie Horn probably. Hello, Celebs. Goldie Horn. You're talking about Kate Hudson's mum.

Aurekin. Is that who that is? Yeah, good job. She's from great movies, such as Private Benjamin. You're talking about Kate Hudson's mum. I reckon. Is that who that is? Yeah, good job. She's from great movies, such as Private Benjamin. When Harry met Sally. No. No.

No. That's Meg Ryan. We've talked too long. We have. So something I've done on Patreon, right now, if you guys noticed this, but I asked the question, because someone had made a suggestion as to how we could easily explain the show because I normally get Dave to explain it or Jess. Yep.

And a man named Philip. Bojo, Bo. It was a mixture of panic and something out syllables at the same time. Roll, mmm. Philips, bourgeois, he, he, message suggesting a way we could in one sentence. And I said, I said, oh, that's great. And I asked the patrons and started a thread. And everyone's suggesting their one sentence

description of the show to get it started. So I might pick some of those out at random in future episodes. But this is Philip. Philip's description of the show to get it started. So I might pick some of those out at random in future episodes, but this is Philip's description of the show. Philip. Bushwar. He says, human meets education when three comedians take turns

reporting on a real subject. Oh, I like that. That's nice and easy. I'm like, man, he made that sound easy. Yeah, it's hard. We get onto topic, why the report give a asking a question this week. Dave is doing the report.

What is your question? That's right. My question on the topic that you two do not know what it's going to be. So that's how we get onto it. So the question is which historical figure is nicknamed Little Miss Shoreshot? Sounds like a Marvel character. Little Miss Shoreshot. It's a great nickname.

Little Miss Shoreshot. So it's a good shooter. A great shooter. A great shooter. shooter great shooter. Possibly the best That's the pilot. Yes, expert markswoman. Wow Is it is a Shirley Temple? Yeah, she was great with the gun. Is it Calamity Jane? No, but... Is it Calamity Jane? Oh, is Calamity in the name? Is it?

Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Oh, it was a musical. I thought it was a dog.

Ha-ha-ha-ha. They appeared at the same time in a show together. Which I'll talk about on the show. In a show. Would we know the name? I imagine if I say the name, you're. Okay, say it slowly. Little Miss Shawshot is also known as Annie.

Get your gun. Leba Witt. She's a photographer, right? Oh, yes. A Shawshot. Annie. Shaw shot with a camera, yes. Lennox. It is any Oakley. Any Oakley.

Little me short, do I have you heard of any Oakley? No. Please. It's like a famous figure in American history, so like often reference on something. I think, actually. What's any got you gone? Is that anything?

It's a musical. It's another musical. Well, there is a musical. It's another musical. Well, there is a musical about Annie Oakley, so I imagine that could be from it. Oh, we're both Googling. It's called Annie Get Your Gun. Yes. Is that what he said?

I think it was the first time, the second time I think I might have seen Got Your Gun. Got your gun. Got your gun. There is a musical based on our life from the 1950s called Annie gets your gun. Anytime I see that on a billboard outside of a theatre and I'm with my mum I'm like, look mum, because her name's Annie. I said, look mum, your musical's on or if Annie is on I say the same thing. She loves it. She loves being the car with me, big fan, one of her favourite activities. I was going to finish with this with them. So 1946 was the year the musical came out.

The show included, and I'd never particularly heard of it, maybe, you know. It doesn't end funny. I've heard of the musical, but not the... Yeah, the first subject, but I reckon you would have heard some of the songs. Got a question. And are you okay? Are you okay? Are you okay, Erdy? Oh, wait, I'm singing. Are you Oakley? Are you Oakley, Ernie. Oh, wait, I'm singing. Ernie, are you Oakley? I'm Oakley. Are you Oakley, Ernie?

Man, if I did parody songs. Watch out, we're now. We're Dave Warnocky. So some of the shows, songs include, there's no business like show business. There's no business like show business. That's a big one. And the song, anything you can do, I can do better.

Really? No. Just kidding. song, anything you can do, I can do better. Really? No. Just kidding. Anything you can do, I can do better. No, you can. Yes, I can. No, you can. I did that in Spotify.

They did that in the nanny at a talent show. Yes, I recall that. I do recall that. It was with the little daughter. Yep. Maggie. No. Yeah. No. Yeah.

No. What's the Maggie? The big one. Doesn't matter. I'm really looking forward to this report. Let's not get it down another nanny hole. Grace. Gracey.

Nice. Gracey. Any Oakley was suggested by Lauren from Sydney who didn't give her last name, but I'm sure you know who you are. You're the only one who suggested it. So thank you very much. That was true. Laura. And I was voted on by the Sydney Shineberg Petroon supporters. So that shows this.

And if you are a Sydney Shineberg Petroon supporter, you get to vote on, at the moment, the topics I'm picking. This one by one vote. Wow. So if you want to get in there and you can really change the outcome of the show. That's tight.

Super tight. Okay, so Annie was born Phoebe and Mosley on August 13th, 1860 in a cabin in rural Ohio. Yes! Just a short three and a half hour drive from Gary and Indiana. God's country. God's country. The golden triangle, the golden mile. The golden gold.

You can, I can you believe this within about 24 hours drive. You can get from Gary. That's what might have to be less of that. Might be even 12. Gary threw Ohio into Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I mean. Amazing. How do I believe that?

I do believe it. Because I've said it before. Yeah, and I trust you. Thank you. I've brought to a Quaker farming family of English descent. She was the fifth surviving child of seven to her parents Jacob and Susan, which leads me to ask. Surviving child? Yeah, they had even more children. Wow, seven surviving children.

Yeah. Do they know? Well what was causing it? Do they? Yeah, sevens are weird number, that bothers me. Oh you can't. The magnificent seven. Are they the family? Later lived on a farm in Greenville, Ohio. Greenville sounds nice. I heard us. I imagine. I assume. Yeah. Well, her father, Jacob, often had to travel 14 miles to a mill. And in winter, he had to make the trek through the snow. One night, he had to march home through a blizzard and didn't return until after midnight. And when he did, he could barely talk and was practically frozen solid. Sadly, he never recovered from the incident and was practically frozen solid. Sadly he never recovered from the incident and died of pneumonia not long after. Oh wow! Her mother married again, but a

second husband also died. Oh no I fell around. With her father gone and her stepfather also gone. Jesus. From five years old Annie had to contribute to her to help her family of eight survival. Annie trapped small animals such as quail for food. Every evening, no matter how tired there were, Susan, the mother would gather them all around to sing hymns and prey. Her quaker background, which is a type of Christianity, made her want to- And a porridge maker. A quaker. I think there's a brand of porridge called Quakers. You have Quakers.

Oh, sorry, Quakers, Quakers. Quakers, get your oats. Which is their famous catchphrase. So as you've seen these songs are trying to instill her values in her young children. Mary Jane, the eldest of the children, died of tuberculosis at the age of 15. Oh my God. So tragedy is... Tragedy, I'm trying to see.

Annie's mother was forced to sell the pet milk account named Pink to pay for Mary's doctor and Pino. Pink is a terrible name for a cow. Well, you say that until you realize that when you milked it, it came out strawberry. Oh my God, yum pink milk. The best flavor of all. Yes.

Suck it, chocolate. Yeah, chocolate's ever rated. Mastrobi, I'm a banana man. Love a strawberry milk. Oh, I love a lime milk. I know that's controversial, but I like it. It's not controversial. It's wrong. Yeah, it's dumb. That's the dumb Greenville. God's milk, Green milk. You are. It's so wrong. But it feels so right. So they had to sell the strawberry milk cow to pay for the doctor and funeral expenses.

They all worked hard to stay afloat, but it wasn't enough and the family quickly went broke and lost the farm. Annie's mother had to put her in the care of the local county's poor farm. Here she did a bit of schooling and learnt to sow. Poor farm? It's basically like an orphanage with a bit of, you know, but you do a bit of work as well. I thought they were farming poor people. Which is odd.

And doesn't make sense because people don't grow on the ground. Yeah. They don't have a wearer. I mean, back then they didn't know that though. Yeah, they didn't know where babies came from. So this was the time in life she did a bit of schooling and learnt skills like sewing, which she became very good at.

But from here she was hired out as a living helper in a family's home in a neighboring county. And me, yeah, I mean, having a living helper makes sense to me. Yes, still living. It's still living, you know? Live in helper. Yes.

Oh, living. Don't you think, like, if they were dying or dead, they'd be of no use? No, I think it's more of like a spiritual living. You know, some people just kind of coast through life. Get busy living. Yeah. Some people just kind of, they just float along and they don't really have, they don't experience anything, they're not stopping to smell the roses.

Annie is living. She's living. Get busy cleaning. She's lively. You're on the clock. Come on, Annie. She's living. She's living. She's living, get busy cleaning. She's lively. You're on the clock. Come on Annie. Tom's ticking. Annie, get your mop.

Anything you can mop, I can mop better. Yeah, you can, because that's your job. Get to it. No, any sense for help watching over the young child, the family was supposed to look after her and help with their education. It sounded like a great arrangement. That night. But in reality, it was anything but that.

Oh. She was treated basically as a slave by an abusive family. And he never revealed their names, but referred to them in a biography as The Walls. Oh. They worked her all day and locked her in Cubberts' punishment. She later accounted her duties. She said, I got up at four o'clock in the morning, got breakfast, milked the cows, fed the calves, the pigs, pumped water for the cattle, fed the chickens, rocked the baby to sleep,

weated the garden, picked wild berries, got dinner after digging the potatoes for dinner and picking the vegetables, and then I would go hunting and trapping. Oh my God. Mother wanted me to come home, but they would let me. I was held prisoner. They wrote all the letters to my mother telling her I was happy and going to school. So it's terrible for her. One night she fell asleep while sewing and as a punishment, Mrs. Wolf hit Annie and threw her out into the thick snow and locked the door. She was wearing belly any clothing and had no shoes on. She later recalled she tried to pray in the snow, being very religious, but her lips were frozen solid

and she couldn't even make a noise. So it's terrible and she had to endure this family for two whole years, between the ages of 10 and 12. Oh, Jesus. Just 12 years old, she decided that she couldn't take any more of their abuse and run away.

She got to a train station but had no money for a ticket. A man took pity on her and bought her food and a train ticket, literally a ticket to freedom. She never knew his name but never forgot this stranger's kind gesture. When she got home she discovered her mother could still not afford to care for another child so she had to go back to the poor farm once again. This time paying her away with her sewing abilities. Right. Mr. Wolf, the abusive guy, came looking for her one day but thankfully, it was turned away.

Oh, thank God, to try and... Creepy that he was like going looking for her though. No. Yeah. Oh, she started the fort, yeah. Get a new slave. Yeah, yeah. What are you, what are you?

Well, you want the slaves that ran away. She doesn't want to be there. Yeah. Get a new slave. And take a hint. I'm joking. About which part? I'm so sorry. Don't get a new slate. Three people better than she wouldn't have run away. That's true. Slavery bad is what I'm saying.

Okay. Can we get that in writing? I'll tweet it. Okay. Let's get the letters. Hey guys. Tweet it now, how to context please. Hot take. Hot take. Slavery's bad. Don't at me.

Just quietly, Greg Norman, I've got back to my tweet last week when I offered you up for any comedy gigs that he might be booking. Just put you forward. No, he didn't get back to you Dave, but. Oh, okay, good. His people are in talks with my people. He's slid in.

He's slid into the DMs. And you're going to be on his super yacht anytime now. Good. Dave, I won't confirm nor do I. The car. My appearance on a super yacht owned perhaps by a golf legend. Oh, Tiger Woods. No, Dave.

No, no, no. Well, you see, we'll deny that bit. All right, Dave, no, no, no. Well, you see, we'll deny that bit. All right, Dave, on with the report. Well, Annie Oakley, she stayed at the porthomb for another three years before finally being able to live with their mother at the age of 15. Well, this time her mother had married for a third time, but the family was still very, very poor with a large mortgage to pay. So Annie couldn't go to school.

She had to work to support the family, putting down the sewing kit and picking up a gun. Oh yeah, I got it. And you get your gun. Okay. Why? But it's a gun I used my sewing skills. Yeah, she's come over the new style of sewing. She shoots, she shoots balls of wool into different garments. And she's still one of America's most celebrated artists. Oh, incredible stuff. I'm pretty sure. And her installations. Yeah. Crochet installations made with a gun. Yeah. But what's it saying? Yeah, it's saying, oh, death. It's saying bang. Quite a quite mad. Bang. From a young age, Andy was a gifted shot. At eight years old, she'd picked up a gun for the first time and she killed a squirrel outside her house. Jesus.

Nobody else. Why the eight year old had a gun? Quite from Annie. It was a wonderful shot going right through the head from side to side. Yay! My mother was so, is this a serial killer episode? Because they often start. Yeah, killing animals, yes. And, you know, breaking about an adi-ery. I guess she probably is some sort of serial killer. Well, my mother was so frightened when she learnt that I had taken down the loaded gun and shot it, that I was forbidden to touch it again for eight months. For a forbidden. You're banned for eight months.

What an odd amount of time. But when you're eight years old and eight months, then you can shoot all the squirrels she liked. You know the rules. It's like getting your first job, 14 or nine months. Yeah. So it ate eight months for guns. At age 15 she took her father's old gun, gone.

Old gone. That's how old this thing was. It was called a gone. Wow. That word has really changed. Pregun. Pregun. This is a pregun word.

What do you call it, a gun? I love it. It's so good. She went out into the wilderness and began hunting. She sold the meat to an Ohio grocery store. My gone was haunting. She sold the moid. That sounds real weird to an Ohio grocery store. Emergent, Charles Katzenberger bought all of the game and he could provide and he distributed it to local restaurants and hotels. She became the

family's number one breadwinner, making enough money to pay off her mum's $200 mortgage. $200! $200 do's. Wow. What? I think I missed the era. This is like about the 1860s. 2060s.

200 bucks. Let's go back there. I'd be a fucking bajillionaire. Oh, mate. Oh man. I have at least $200. What? I don't know bragging.

You mean hold on now to me. I've been saving. Can you pay off my mortgage? You can get your own magnets for sure. No, I need donations. Put down the jug. All right, fine then, for food. Do they not want me to eat in the trip?

I mean, that $200 is going to you magnets and food or a can. No. You can buy a house in Ohio for that much money. That's true. And he later wrote, oh, how my heart left with joy as I handed the money to mother and told her that I'd saved enough to pay it off. That would be a good feeling. That would be a good feeling, but also like, as you're getting the money, she's not giving me an instalment.

She's waiting until she's got the whole amount and then she just slaps it on the table. That's because that's bad us. I'm not as bought the house by shooting shit. Yeah Yeah, that eight months you took the gun off me cost us millions. Well, I might have four houses by now You really fucked up Get out of my house That's right my house That's right, my house. Yeah, she owns house. I was seen as very unorthodox and improper

for a teenage woman to be hunting, but Annie bucked the trend. And because of this, and her prolific output of meat, she soon began making quite a name for herself around Greenville. As the meat lady. Annie meatly. Annie meat your gun.

That's not anything. We're just throwing stuff out. It's no bad ideas. Especially when it comes to musicals. Yeah. There is no bad ideas. There's no business like showing. See, and if you're bad ideas,

they all make it through, don't they? They all make it through. There's no quality control. In fact, there's no quality. You're a musical hater. Oh yeah, something I thought you liked me. No, he hates him. No. You love him. I don't mind him.

I love him. Yeah, the other one who loves him. No. Okay. You take the realism out of theater and you combine it with the worst songs. That episode of Buffy though, when there was a demon making them all sing, that was pretty good. God. Musical episodes of shows, that sucks. Yeah, the Buffy one was anyway. There's no way it was good

It's like the scrubs musical episodes like come on. Yeah, I remember that Don't remember the Buffy one that I did a common way song Yeah, that was cool. I like that colon hey Camille hmm It's the first time I heard over here. This is a bloody crack in tune. Great tune. Do you know who else is in Scrubs? Is it Camille?

Brendan Fraser? Oh. Brendan Fraser? The subject of our podcast, Frasing the Bar? Yeah. Which we haven't really done an episode of yet. That would go ex- I'm tired of Brendan Fraser. Yeah, we're really done an episode of yet. That would go ex- We're going for it.

I'm tired of running in the freezer. Yeah, we're going to watch Brandon Fraser, maybe. It's sort of like your topic sort of drop off about the year 2002, don't we? It drives up a little. But before that. For that, geez. Well, boy. We are in work.

Anyway, sorry, Dave. Do good one. The mommy was one of my favourite films growing up. My god. You have great taste. You have exquisite taste. But imagine the mummy. That's a musical.

Oh, now that. I can't imagine. Anyway, I'm taking you back to the 1870s now. Shooting was a common spectator sport during this time. With so-called sharpshooters traveling the country to demonstrate their abilities and holding competitions. If you're good enough, you could make a living from these demonstrations and competitions. You would either get money from people paying to watch you or you could win prize money if you would put down bets. One of these traveling sharpshooters was Frank E. Butler.

Frankie Butler. Frank E. Yes, Frankie. Frankie Butler. Frankie Butler. That's a great name. Born in Ireland in 1847. He was the oldest of five children,

and moved to a, and moved with a family to America when he was 13. He worked some of our jobs, and married a woman named Henrietta Saunders with him yet two children, but they later divorced. Oh, it's beautiful. Divorce in 1870.

Yeah. Crazy. Yeah, there's not. That's out there. Well, that may be why he eventually developed a sharpshooting act and began to travel around America. He had to get away from something. Classic poster divorce behavior. Yeah, we all lash out.

Midlife crisis. I have a traveling. Bye, motorbike. Yes, I mean, we'll get a motor midlife prices. Have a traveling. Bye motorbike. I guess I will get a motorbike. Some people start a traveling act. Some people date someone 30 years in junior. Or senior. Oh no. No, just me. Okay. On Thanksgiving in 1875, Frank's act was traveling through southern Ohio. His big claim was that he could out-shoot any challenger, and when staying at a hotel

in Cincinnati some farmers told him of the great local shot that they thought could be them. It was a little 15-year-old girl named Annie. Frank laughed when he heard of the challenger, but $100 was put on the line for the winner and he needed the money so he accepted the challenge. Hundreds of people turned up to watch the match and when Frank's opponent appeared she was only 5 feet tall and weighed about 100 pounds. She's a very small lady. What's 100 pounds again? Don't worry, that's fine. Small. Small? Yeah, I don't know. Like 40 kilos or something?

Yeah, right. Okay. Naomi. Yes. 45 kilos. Right. And she's only 5 foot tall and that is as tall as she will ever get. Yes. 45 kilos. Right. And she's only five foot tall, and that is as tall as she will ever get. Right. So she's a little firecracker, cool. So he was really taking off guard when this tiny lady comes out.

They were to compete in a bird shooting competition. Both shooters went shot for shot, each hitting 24 birds in a row. Whoa. But then I'll make Frank miss the 25th. Yeah, Frank, he idiot. Yeah Yeah, Frank, E, he idiot. Yeah, you idiot. Frank, A, shit.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Man, I wish that was a heck of a stop. Yeah. Any letter recalled. You could beat you, you would do so well back there. Yeah, I'd kill. I'd kill the heck of a traveling gun show in London. 1782 or whatever.

Ha ha ha ha. So Frank missed any letter recalled that when he missed, and a traveling gun show in November, 1782 or whatever. So Frank missed any letter of call that when he missed, she stopped thought to herself, I'm gonna win. Oh no, I don't think that. And then she shot a 25th bird and did win. Yeah, Annie. Rather than Annie. And E-H-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S- But they've got like birds and they let them go. Yeah, it's pretty awful. It's pretty fucking awful. Symbols of peace.

Yeah. What are we talking? Amos? How big are these birds? Amos. Amos. Birds were huge back then. That was a real big deal.

That was really, really big. Some of the biggest stars on the scene. And they were shooting them. The only way to become more famous in the bird was to kill that bird. Kill the bird right. Roll up the. You're the best, right? We're all of the younger, the bad jungle. I get it.

So Frankie lost, but rather than crack it, Frank did the opposite and felt instantly in love with any chore. What kind of love, like admiration for a child? Adoration. Being good at shooting. Oh yeah, how old T? He's 10 years older than that. Okay.

Which is like fine now in our age bracket, I mean. 15 to 25 now. It's different. Different time offering a ticket to his next shooting show, he called it out for a time. And his professional shooting act, he was assisted by a dog. A French poodle named George. And he would shoot every day. He's okay folks. He folks so far to the act. He's a way to back stage the dog George is having a smoke

It's just this is a living, you know, you play dead every day. I go town of town I go up there. I go down when the bank happens like oh damn and I'm dead You know that's a living you know make a make a couple Make a camera to a button full of day But I'm smoking Five these guys I'm smoking my life like a joint, but I'm smoking a joint pipe Look at us is this because I said he was a fringe poodle because I said he was a French poodle. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Well, this next sentence is going to be surprising. Annie fell for George the dog. What's the surprising?

That isn't surprising. It's a real charm. He's a real charm. Frank courted Annie by sending her letters and cards signed by George. Okay, this is... That is cute! Okay, thank you.

That could have gone either way. Eventually, she fell for him in a year later, now 16, they married. So, sorry, by this stage, she has fallen for Frank and not the dog. Well she initially fell for George. Yes. Then it became a manage to her. Then she found out that she was paying catfish. Frank was pretending to be George.

And then she was mad for a bit. Catfish does a dog. Then she realized it was sweet. She was dogfish. The Frank was constantly jealous. So he let George go in some woods one day That didn't happen But she was finally able to get away from her life of poverty in Greenville. Yeah, and now she had a dog for the next six years poverty in Greenville. Yeah and now she had a dog. For the next six years, it's the family. And a husband but more so the dog. Also a husband dog. Yeah dog has been a doesp

a doesp bin. That's where they come from. Some people in marriage of the job she's married to the dog that's part of the job. For 60 years Annie's supporter of a husband as he performed with his shooting partner, John Graham, staying in the background and not performing. So she was... Classic. You know, not part of the show, but one night on the road, John Graham got sick and Annie stepped in as her husband's assistant, basically holding up things for him to shoot at.

Great. Isn't that wild? So she beat him at shooting. And then she went to the background. Yeah, because that was a different time. So it's his, her job now in this act to hold stuff up to shoot. God, you'd really have to trust him. But on this particular, I'd flip it around.

You'd flip it and swap it around. I'm a better shooter than you. Remember that bird you missed? No. How about you hold it and I'll shoot the target. My husband, whatever your name is. You you hold it and I'll shoot the target. My husband, whatever your name is. You hold the EU and I'll shoot. Yeah.

On this night, I'll know, Dave. But on this night, he kept missing. Fortunately, he wasn't hitting Annie. He was just missing the targets. Someone from the crowd, possibly a time traveling match Stuart Heckled Frank and yelled, let the woman shoot. Probably joking.

Because I thought that'd be really funny to see a woman. Yeah, that's what I'd be really funny to see a woman. Yeah, that'd be really funny. That was, that wasn't me, Dave. I thought it was. Let the woman shoot. So Frank, let the woman shoot. And Annie did.

What a progressive husband. Annie didn't miss a single shot, hitting the flames off of candles, shooting at playing cards, and even lit cigarettes in a husband's mouth. Oh my God. No. No. No. You people are idiots. Imagine how you play. Slightly too high your nose is gone. I mean, I mean, it's side on. She's not aiming.

Matt's making it look like she's shooting through the cigarette into his teeth. Yeah, I mean, that feels risky. This way, this way, but still slightly too high. Toppier knows it's gone. Hyped's a long cigarette. So she was a real success. From then on, Annie was part of the show and eventually became the show as her husband stopped hanging out with John Graham

and eventually became her manager and assistant. Oh. The husband was the assistant, which was a big shift in norms for the Victorian society. But Frank was a big supporter of his wife and also an astute businessman who recognized his wife's talent. From then on, he was more of a background figure,

but he never, you know, shard away from that. He was happy for his wife to be the star. I want a Frank. Yeah. Letting her have a career. Supporting her? Get out of town. I can't handle it. You're setting a very high standard here, Jess. Supporting the partner. But I'm not going to rest until I find that. Good luck. Good like 150 years later, Jess. Not much has changed. It was around this time that Annie adopted the professional name of Oakley.

There's a few theories just to where Oakley came from. The most common suggestion seems to be. Rapperance sunglasses. She was sponsored, sponsorship deal. Yeah. Originally, she was Annie Rayban. What's her husband's surname? Frank, his name?

H-shit. Frank, you're not even ready to fucking know you. No, sorry, Frank. Franky. Frank ha ha. Frankie, I can't even remember his fucking name. No, sorry, Frank. Frankie. Frankie Butler. Butler. So her name away from the circuit is Annie Butler. Yeah, okay.

But when she's on stage, she's Annie Oakley. And the most common theories out there was either the name of her paternal grandmother was Oakley. All that it comes from the town of Oakley in Ohio. Oh, the suburb of Oakley in Melbourne. Yes. Many theories. Probably the Melbourne ones. Many answers.

All the sunglasses. Actually, yes, sorry, I beg your pardon, yes. It's a different sunglasses. She was trying to come up with a name when she bumped into a speed dealer. Yeah. And he said, can I use some speed if you buy an amount yet free sunglasses? Yeah, free sunglasses. I'll try with some studies for free. If I'm about to, Oakley, is that for a time they're extremely cool.

Yes. Now they're probably extremely uncool. Yet the price has stayed very high. Yes. I think they're just cool and so in demographics. My brother. Oops, his brother. Not a speed dealer.

Still wears him for some reason. I don't know. When did that become the, I think probably stereotypes like the speed dealer. Rapparansang glasses probably didn't help their brand. Yeah, speed dealer chic really went out for it. It was a tough life on the road for the couple. Traveling by train from town to town, performing their shooting act in popular variety shows that featured several different acts like acrobat, strongman, singers, dancers, people doing

early comedy acts, you know, they're being MC, that kind of thing. A lot of the acts had near or implied nudity, they're a little bit risky, very risky for the time I should say. And being a conservative quaker, any feared being thought of as a quote, loose woman, does a big fear. Which, what, did that used to be a negative? Loose is like, I would say, call me loose and I'll say, thank you very much. Oh, you're such a loose unit, Matt. Stop it.

Thank you. But back then in the 1800s, not so good. Not so great. Not so good to be seeing that way, especially if you're such a loose unit, Matt. Stop it. Thank you. But back then in the 1800s, not so good. Not so great. Not so good to be seeing that way, especially if you're quite conservative as she is. Oh, you're right. I guess so. That's still probably the case. Being a skilled seamstress, she designed and made her own stage outfits.

All very conservative, her arms and legs all fully covered. She was extremely conservative in her attire, and this really helped build her on stage persona, a tiny, quiet woman who could shoot better than most people in the whole world. It was an entertaining combination. So she sort of come out and she comes out, she blow kisses to the crowd, be very ladylike and everyone would be like, what's going on here? And then she'd pull out a gun and just fucking shoot the shit out of everything and sort of like blow the roof of every venue.

Yeah. I see. I see it. I'm guessing this isn't in the round, right? Like the crowd. No, not. Like a circus. The cheap seats. The cheap seats behind the lit cigarettes.

It's like the splash zone slash murder zone. If you're wearing, if you're sitting in the front row, yeah, pull up your plastic because there will be blood. You know what it says like on theater, like maps when you're booking tickets, it says obstructed view. Yeah, it's obstructed because you've been shot in the eye. Yeah. There's not only one eye and you will survive it. And she meant it. If she wanted to hit you in the eye, she would eventually, Annie and Frank's

hard work paid off when they got a contract with a family orientated circus. It was a better show to be a part of, but the pay was still a bit dodgy, sort of sometimes not coming through, but it was 40 weeks of solid touring work, so they gel- Oh, that's a lot of weeks. Constantly touring, on the road all the time. At least you together, it's nice to adventure. Eventually the show wrapped up, and just when they were thinking they'd have to go back to the EECD variety shows that they hated, something new came along.

Oh, was it? What happened was on the same week that the circus wrapped up in New Orleans, another show came to town. Buffalo Bills Wild West Show. Cool title, right? That is a cool title. Nameed after its founder, Buffalo Bill Cody.

So Buffalo, because Buffalo Bill have heard of that. Yeah, Buffalo Bill. That's a guy. And the ice creams that we have here, Buffalo Bill, this is a pun on his name. Yeah. You know, you know, the ice cream, so basically it's an ice cream with chocolate, whatever, strawberry, fucking the best.

And then he wears like a cowboy hat. Yeah. Because that's Buffalo Bill. Yeah. And it's Buffalo Bill because the nose is a piece of bubble gum. Yeah. I love this. Bubalo Bill, yeah, I was a childhood favorite.

So the Wild West show made by Bubalo, Bubalo Bill himself, the Wild West show, founded by Bubalo Bill. He had a son called Bubalo Bill. Oh. And it was the first of its kind and proved to be incredibly popular. It was a kind of a variety show,

but it told the story of the Wild West. Bubalo Bill himself was a legendary figure, starting out as a bison hunter, that's what he got his name. And then being part of the US Civil War, he deserves his own episode. It's been of a character. Isn't it funny though that he was this genuine dude and then he, the way you're cashing in on that was to travel around doing a variety show. Yeah. I'm a famous cowboy. Now I'm going to. Two, three, four. That's the best. So basically, it has to do this for real. Now I do it for... That's a real.

Yes. For all your sweet cash. But basically, so he's like an old figure famous from the Wild West and the cities which were becoming more, you know, like modern cities. They still had this fascination with the Wild West. A fascination. A fascination. Basically, there'd be a fashion show. Oh.

And then they'd be fascinated. So basically, they'd bring the show, the shows, the big cities and everyone would be like, oh, I guess this is what the Wild West was really like. I didn't break the, so the circus is wrapped up. Buffalo Bills in town. They're like, well, let's ask is what the Wild West was really like. And he'd fracked up, so the circus is wrapped up. Buffalo Bills in town, they're like, well, let's ask him we can be part of this show. So they asked Buffalo Bill and I ask if Annie could shoot in his show. But he's already had a famous shot shoot

by the name of Captain Bogartus. Which is good. Well, that is a great name. No, it's not as good as Annie get you gun. Captain Bogartus. Bogartus. Did she think she could compete with him? Captain Bogartus I really thought everyone would jump on that name. I when I heard it I I took a good five in a break You thought I've earned a break here. Yeah, yeah, fair enough. How to twirl God, it was good. Yeah, a twirl

Spun around yeah Sadly Yeah, boo. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Yes. Yep. Nice. Carry on. Peloton is ready when you are. And with up to $700 off your Peloton bike plus purchase, there's no better time to bring it home for the holidays and work out your way. Unleash everything. It's your workout. Your rules.

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But just when they thought the head and got what seemed like they had dream gig, Buffalo Bills steamboat sank on the Mississippi. All right! Captain Bogartus lost all of his guns and had to quit the show. Oh. I mean, get new guns. I know. Did Annie get his guns?

Yeah. Bogartus can do guns. Well, Annie and Frank immediately they heard about it. They wired Buffalo Bill and asked for an audition. Buffalo Bill was skeptical. He'd heard Annie was a good shot, but being a shooter himself, he wanted if such a tiny woman had the stamina to perform night after night. Nevertheless, he granted her an audition, which he didn't even need because Buffalo Bills manager Nate Salisbury just happened to watch her practicing before her official audition and she was so good that he hired her on the spot.

Oh, that's cool. I mean great. It's so great. So Annie Oakley joined Buffalo Bills Wild West Show in 1885. She started out low on the bill, but soon became an audience favorite. She was a great showwoman, as I said before. She could throw six balls into the air glass balls, which were filled with powder, so when she shot them they exploded.

And it looked really quite cool. She threw six balls into the air and then could pick up a gun and shoot them before any of them hit the ground. Wow! She shot with both her left and right hands, and even backwards over a shoulder using a mirror to aim. What? She was so accurate that she could shoot a playing card

held sideways and split it into. No! Like the thinnest possible way you can hold a card. Someone would bravely hold that up, and she would shoot it into... That distance. Do you, do you, you're only after... I've heard of having like a... hold that up and she would shoot it into her distance. You only have to be heard of like a...

An off night. An off night or just even an off moment, which is not fully concentrated. Well someone like Yale something, a little bit of distraction. Yeah. You know, I've been thinking about this lately because I'll friends and my brother as well recently like, traities and people who work with power tools every day. Nearly everyone I know has done, I don't know if your brothers are in this, but they've had a slight concentration lapse and put a drill through their hand,

like nail gun. Like nail gun, yeah. My brother, the other day, put his thumb through a grinder, down to the bone, tendon coming out. He had to the bone tendon coming out. Yeah, you have to get all that fixed up. Apparently, the doctors like, do you want to see your tendon? He's like, sure.

I'm like, why? Why would not be looking, no? My brother's shutting himself in the hand with an hour. Yes, it's just something like, you work with these things every day and these people are all very good with their tools. I'm sure, but you just have one little moment and she must have had those moments.

Surely. She's the best guys. She's amazing. The best. That's so cool. Oh, but is your brother summer right? Just a work normally? I guess they hope so.

Oh, the tendon is coming out. Yeah, it doesn't sound right. No. But it's all, I saw him yesterday, it's all, I saw a mess, I saw wrapped up. I've got a photo of us doing the thumbs up. They're on a post that's saying that took on my brother at a thumb wall.

And they're very good content. And let's just say I ripped out his tent. How far would the thumb wall have to be? Well, it was to the death. Your thumb. The death of the thumb. The thumb, thumb wall secret weapon is an ankle grinder. Yeah. Ancule. Yeah. Well, I mean, you grind their ankles, they fall off the ground, you pin them. Thank God. So in any Oakleys opening season with Buffalo

Bill's Wild West show, she was seen by 150,000 people. Wow. She got such great reviews that she was moved up the bill and became one of. She got such great reviews that she was moved up the bill and became one of the headline acts. The next season was on Staten Island in New York and was seen by half a million people. Holy shit. Which at the time was the most popular show in New York City's history, with Annie almost as famous as Buffalo Bill Cody himself. The next show is where it Madison Square Garden. Annie Oakley was becoming an- Madison Square Garden. How long does that go back? It must be really old.

I really love the modern- Yeah. Yeah. Wow. She was becoming a genuine American superstar. I was just- I just had to double check this because when you said 1885, that's the year that Marty McFly goes back to the Wild West in-

in back to the future three. Oh, it's Buffalo, Bill Cody, and it all. Because that's one of the most famous figures from the Wild West in back to the future three. Oh, it's Buffalo Bill Cody in the middle. Because that's one of the most famous figures from the Wild West. Because there are those things that are like shooting things and they build up to a scene where there is like a dual sort of thing. But there's also, there's a fair where they're selling guns and they've got shooting games and stuff. Awesome.

Yeah. There's a little throwback to an old episode we did about the back to the future trilogy. Yeah, I thought 1885 because that movie is set in 1985 and they go back to 1955 and they also go on in the future in 2015 and back to 185 it doesn't matter No, obviously, I've got a long way through that before I realized that it doesn't matter. No, that's obviously, I've got a long way through that before I realized that it doesn't matter.

You were committed to the years. Yeah. Well, throughout our life, I only got to meet some amazing famous people, including Sitting Bull. Sitting Bull was the most distinguished and famous Native American Indian leader of his generation. It was his political influence that had drawn so many tribes and families together at the little big horn in 1876. He was generally credited or blamed for depending on whose side you're on with the defeat of Custer, often called Custer's last stand. So I'm just trying to paint

the pictures, a really, really famous guy. In March at St. Paul Minnesot, a sitting bull watched Annie in Frank perform. He was enthralled by her skills and her personality and he arranged to meet her. He called her Watanya Cecilia, which is Lakota for little shore shot. This would go on to become one of Emma's famous nicknames. Little shore shots. Given the nickname by sitting bull. The Annie Oakley Foundation writes, The following year, sitting bull traveled with Buffalo Bill's Wild West show. There he and Annie became friends, and he adopted her not only as a member of the Hunk Papa Lakota, but also as a daughter. Annie took the honor seriously

and wrote of sitting ball as her adopted father. That's nice. So they became really quite close. So everything's going great for Annie now. What do we need to spice up this story? Oh no. How about a rival? Ooh! Jenny.

Jenny Jocley. Is it Jenny Jocley? I didn't think she was around back then. No, she wouldn't be born for several decades. So in 1887, Buffalo Bills show Sal from New York to England to perform at Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee. Wow. What an honor to be invited.

It's just sort of shows how famous they were coming. And this wasn't just a small representation of Buffalo Bills show. No, he was bringing the entire thing. Performers and animals he took included cowboys, sharp shooters, musicians, Native American Indians, 180 horses, 18 Buffalo, 10 elk, 10 mules, five Texas steers, and a deadwood stage coach. Wow. So everything, especially Noah's Ark,

but Buffalo Bill's style. Oh. During their journey, for two days, a storm pummeled and rocketed the steamship, causing Cody and Neely every other passenger to become violently seasick, all except for little Annie Oakley. Of course. Ledjand.

Because she's short, closer, like a lower center of gravity. Yeah, less movement. Yeah. She just shot at the waves. But also, she's just a bad ass, probably. She's just a bad ass. Like, uh, shot at the waves.

Bip-bip. Um, and I read that article that was more about Buffalo Bill's traveling. It wasn't even on Annie Oakley. I read that and I was like, surely that's just pumping up the legend. But it wasn't even an article about how cool Annie Oakley was. So I thought, take it face value, I do. That's cool.

So Annie and Fraker on board, but so it was Buffalo Bill's new shooting protégé, a 15 year old from California named Lillian Smith. Another girl too. She was a sharp shooting sensation and she knew it. On the boat ride over, she was her bragging, now that I'm in the Wild West show, Annie Oakley is done for. Okay, well, I mean, half of why people like Annie

is the attitude. And you're just being a little shit Lillian. Get the absolute opposite attitude. I think you can go fuck yourself. I'm gonna call it now. Lillian's a little bitch and I hate her. Well, let me tell you a little bit more about it. Lillian's uniform had champion rifle shooter

of the world written across it. Oh, get fucked, Lillian. And she built herself as the champion. Buffalo builder, so she Buffalo built herself. Ha, ha, ha. As the champion girl shot. Get fucked. She shot with rifles, the champion girl shot. Get fucked. She shot with rifles,

whereas Annie mostly shot with shotguns. That was the different weapon that they mostly used. Annie Oakley disliked Smith from the beginning. Of course she is, she's a little bitch. The one thing Annie, the one thing Annie didn't like the little bitch, but also she didn't like the term champion. Yeah, it's not a fucking competition.

Giving yourself that title anyway, you haven't earned it. And also, then again, she's 15. You know, we all go through things at 15. She's 15 as well. All mones. She's when Annie started out. Right. Annie refused to use the word champion to describe herself

despite probably being the best shooter, you know, in the country at the time. More importantly, Lillian Smith was in Annie size and a moral float, anything but ladylike. TUT, TUT, TUT, Lillian. How do you feel about it now, Jess? Any moral float? Not on. That is not okay. Stick in fat.

I'm sticking fat. Is that not a phrase you're familiar with? It is there. Poss It's sticking fat. I'm sticking fat. Is that not a phrase you familiar with? It is there. Possibly in 1885. Stick and fat. I don't know. It just means. It's saying, like,

holding your ground. Yes, yes. Of course I am. At this stage in the story, any years, 26. When this 15 year old starts coming along. That's it married for like 10 years. Yeah. At 26, that's fucked. When this 15 year old starts coming along, that's in marriage like 10 years. Yeah. At 26. That's fucked.

When this 15 year old comes along, so she hasn't looked old, she starts building herself as being only 20 years old. She doesn't look like a grandma in the New prototype. When the show opened in London, Oakley and Smith were given equal billing on the poster. Oh dear.

A little buffalo billing. Can't believe I missed that. Yeah, that's embarrassing for you, Dave. Which is, it's a real slug in the face to me, but this is also a real slug in the face to Annie Oakley. Yeah. She is a, what the fuck? She's nationally famous. Fuck off, Lillian.

Bitch. Bitch, Lillian. Shh. Outpun work is... Express. Matt is hating me rag on this child. And I think that's making it more fun for me. Oh yeah, this is a classic bendy situation.

You're like what I call her a bitch, do you? Look, hey, you do what you gotta do. No, I'll try, I'll find other words. Dave, continue please. Lilian Smith, describe her in one word. Cow, better. Cow girl. Cow girl.

So they got to London, they performed for 28,000 people and many more were turned away. Huge. So it's all part of the Golden Jubilee celebration, which is many celebrations for Queen Victoria over many nights. At this Golden Jubilee performance, the one that they were doing with the Kings of Belgium,

the King of Denmark, well, I should have said, the Kings of Belgium and Denmark, not the Belgium had one King. As well as... There was a first, same six couple in the Kingdom, two Kings. Really? Yeah.

How did that happen to one day? That'd be a nice. That'd be the best. To me, the real King of Belgium is a killed plaro. Oh, yes. Yes. We. Also, in attendance was Oscar Wilde.

Oh, yeah, I've heard of him. Yeah, I've heard of him. I've heard how he checked his wit at the hotel famously. checked his wit at the hotel famously. Declaired his wit at customs. Yes, I believe it's customs, that's right. The airport. As a weapon? Yes, I'm like that. Do you have anything to declare? Only my wit. Right, this way, sir. We'll be looking for you devil Please say you've been selected for a random God cavity service. Yeah, you're a piece of shit. We are gonna bring you down This is a genuine genuine question. Stop fucking about where are gonna check all of your cavities?

For wit and other was Yeah, do you have anything to clear? Well, I am debom. All right, mate, we are definitely taking the job. That is so stupid. I cannot talk about abominant airport. So before I'm going to show the show, it was so well received that Queen Victoria has self-requested a private show.

So the Queen and a 25 person entourage were the only ones in attendance at a button. They all got lap dances. I imagine there would have been so weird performing because there was 25 people in a venue that holds tens of thousands. Yeah, oh, weird. Hello, Victoria, Victoria, Victoria. But she loved it, Queen Victoria, and she asked to meet Little Annie Oakley. The Queen had many questions for Annie Oakley. I stepped near Annie Oakley record and she asked me when I was born at what age I took up shooting and several other questions and finished by saying you are a very, very clever little girl. She's 26.

Yeah, I don't know if she lied to the Queen because remember she's telling everyone she's 20. When were you born? 20 years ago. Been married for 10 years. I don't know if she lied to the queen because remember she's telling everyone she's 20 when we were born 20 years ago been married for 10 years. What's your star sign? I think you probably keep the same birth there line to the queen of panic panic line January the takes

So I'm 10 I'm a time traveler. You got out of it. I'll explain many things. To me, very, very clever little girl. That seems quite patronizing. But this is Annie Oakley recalling it. To be called clever by Queen Victoria meant the highest compliment. And with that, thank you, your majesty. I bowed myself out. Yes, it's nice.

I was in England, Buffalo Bill's team were invited to compete in the prestigious Wimbledon rifle competition. That's what the tennis tournament used to be. They should have worked over time. I was the biggest shooting competition in England. Biggest shooting competition. Like what measured on how big the shit was or just the competition was big. It was on style and flair. This was her. Wow.

He filled that cup. Why was he shooting into a cup? I don't know. That's the place to do it. It was the biggest shooting competition in England and it was an honor for these Americans to be invited to perform. So Lillian Smith, young, the cat on the foot and Annie Oakley went along. Lillian Smith shot first and shot terribly. Ha! Oh, she said she was, it was all the front. Of course it was, she's an idiot.

And she left in a huff. Annie competed the next day and did extremely well, despite Lilian being the rifle expert. So it's a rifle competition and Annie's a shotgun expert. And she's still outshot her. Boom! Boom, Lilian. She was talking big, she felt, you know, it's a cure.

Matt, don't you fucking side with that piece of work. In fact, any shot so well that Annie Oakley began to receive more press than Buffalo Bill himself and a bit of a rift began to develop. It's his show. Yeah. But she's sort of, you know, in all the papers. Then the paper started to talk of a r riff between Annie and Lillian and Bill. So there's sort of, you know, a lot of gossip going on.

But it's an amazing there in the papers. Yeah, amazing. There's a gossip columnist back then. Yeah. After two and a half years with the show, Annie decided to leave the Wild West, Buffalo Bill show following their last London show. So we're doing our last London show. Sometimes nice.

Are we going to call it the Phoenix in London? That's going to be our last ever show. I didn't mean like that. I just mean of that tour. All right. I just trying to draw a parallel. Last show of that particular tour is going to be in London. Yeah, it was unnecessary in a lot of ways.

Yeah, a lot of ways. sorry little quick time out for me Not I all right. No, no Well, I thought it was good to get a plug in for the London show. Yeah, great. Always good to remind them some out over I'm back to sell some ticket. Woo So she's left the show and he did bits of work here and there with circus another world West shows over the next year Because there's other rival world West shows Buffalo Bill's left the show and it did bits of work here and there with circuses and other Wild West shows over the next year because there's other rival Wild West shows, Buffalo Bill, it's just the famous one. She was starting to think her career had really stalled.

When out of nowhere, Buffalo Bill called her up and asked to perform with him in Paris. So there's a Paris. Paris, Paris, about a year later. And he was very surprised, but they happily repaired their relationship. Young, Lily and Smith had, by now now left the show, which may have been why Bill needed Annie so badly. Well, it feels like it's just good business from Bill to have his start in his show. Yeah, like if she's getting a lot of attention. That's good. That's good for you. Buffalo deal more like it. I think Bill had to swallow a bit of pride.

Yeah. Call up and be like, look, they're talking about you because you are the show. Yeah. Yeah. So even over 100 years later, the Annie Oakley Center Foundation is still taking shots at Lily and Smith, young lady. It says this on their website. In 1888, Smith ran off with a cowboy and surfaced a year later in the United States with a skin artificially darkened, calling herself Princess Winona, the Indian girl shot.

Oh dear. That's weird. That's very weird. Darkened, calling herself Princess Winona, the Indian girl shot. Oh, dear. That's weird. That's very weird. I think that's the foundation just being sort of really. Yeah. So they had spray turns back then. I don't know how she's artificially darkening her skin, but that's what she, according to the Annie Oakley Foundation, who are very anti-lilian Smith,

I will say. Fair enough. I'm on their side. anti-lilian Smith, I will say. Fair enough. I'm on the air side. The Wild West Show was in Paris for Expo 1889. The event that the Eiffel Tower was originally built through. Wow.

That's cool. I love that for some reason. That made me go. That's cool. I'd love to do an Eiffel Tower episode. So it was originally built just for, it was supposed to be dismantled after people went through. Because people hated it at the time.

And then they found that it could be used as a good aerial, apparently. And that was one of the reasons why it still exists. And it was also a huge success, it was over 32 million visitors to the city came that year. And attendees include previous report topics of Inza Van Gogh and Thomas Edison. Oh, yeah. I've seen it.

So me as well, you see it? You're at a pub, where you so? Matt's seen it from a pub. Yeah. I think he's talking about this specific time. No. I'm just saying in general, I've seen it. I've seen it a few times.

I've never been up it. I've been up it. I've read a book underneath it. You know, they grass here. I just had this afternoon just chilling out reading a book underneath it. You know, they grasp the air. I just had this afternoon, just chilling out, reading a book, and it was pretty beautiful summer's day. That's a great deal. It's a real nice memory.

I bought a ticket to go all the way to the top, and then because there's like two spots you can stop, and I got to the middle level, I was like, that's enough. I'm not going up right up. Oh no, very high. That's high. Yeah, okay. It's too big.

I normally feel, I get to the top of those things, I'm like, oh, this building's famous because you look at this building, not from what you see from it. So I normally just, I like to see them. I was sort of been near it. Yeah. But yeah, going up, but I just.

I think it was just because the lift you're in is really rickety and I didn't trust it going up to the top. The cues are so, always so long. I did one of the New York big buildings, the maybe Rockefeller Center, went up to the top. The cues are so always so long. I did one of the New York big buildings, the maybe Rockefeller Center, went up to the top of that. Now it's kinda cool, but it's like,

all right, I've queued to go up in a building. Yeah. It's a nice view up here, but- I love a good view. Having said that, I didn't go up the alpha tower. But I love a good view, especially a classic city like Paris. That's it, I'm going back to Paris,

and I'm going up there. All right. I'm maybe at the end of our tour, I'll just hop classic city like Paris. That's it, I'm going to like to Paris, and I'm going up there. All right. I'm maybe at the end of our tour, I'll just hop on over to Paris. I'm going to have fun. Oh yeah, that's fun. I see you. Matt and I can just fly home together.

Do you want to come to Paris? No, no, I don't want to be just... Just... I'm not in after thought. Well, I'd rather go with friends, be honest. Well, I'm going to be... And I can see any of your friends. After our intensive course,

you're going to meet some friends. Yes Good day. Oh, okay. That's pretty good. I've been ridden the pamphlet nice So the Wild West show was in Paris was hugely popular and Annie Oakley was again the talk of the show she's a star The king and because there's a lot of famous people in town watching it The king of Senegal in Western Africa offered to buy any for 100,000 francs to shoot the lions that devastate his country's villages. Sorry, who is he buying her from?

I don't know. Bill or her husband? Yeah, herself. herself. I want to buy you. Yes, bit weird. I think it was weird you're going for his like higher, baby. Yeah, I saw the reporter I read was he wanted to buy her.

Not hire you. That's fucked. I'm gonna let you know that he she politely declined to be bought. So he was trying to buy her off herself. Yeah, how do you separate yourself from yourself? I mean, they could have been a bad translation possibly. Yeah. Yeah, he was actually just asking to go out for a banana Sunday.

And she said, no, but she loved banana Sunday. I know, that was the real. Well, I love banana Sundays. I haven't had one in so long. We're what a combination. You got ice cream, you got banana. That's what I meant to say. Yes, I love a Sunday too.

So, well, in Perry, Annie toured Europe for three years following the expo and they went to all the major cities. It's a photo that I've seen. It's obviously a very old photo, but they're in the Colosseum performing in Rome, which is so cool. That's amazing.

I'd love to allow podcasts in the Colosseum, just putting it out there. Italy. Italy, are you listening? You may at us. I mean, I imagine we could just take a recorder and they're in Huddling Corden. Yeah, we definitely could.

Oh yeah, let's do that. Let's Huddle. All right, following our London show, we'll get a Paris then to Rome. Yeah, great. Much was written about her every city she went to. Much of it was also made up, but it helped to grow her legend.

So having an origin story became crazier and crazier in many newspapers. Any publicity is good publicity. Well, you say that. You say that. Annie continued to tour throughout the night. It's being as popular as ever until 1901 when a train she was on was involved in a head-on collision. She survived but suffered a spinal injury and decided to retire from the Wild West show. Instead, she turned to acting and started to play that also showed off her shooting talents. So it was a bit acting, bit of shooting. Great. A bit easier for her.

She didn't have to travel as much as I kind of think with her spinal injury. The show received road reviews, but just when she thought her acting career was really taking off, her name began to appear in the papers, but for all the wrong reasons. No. This is the bad publicity thing. Two of William Randolph-Hersh's Chicago newspapers ran a story about how any Oakley had been arrested for theft and had turned to thievery to support her cocaine habit and was now in jail for the crimes.

I was literally going to say drugs and I was going to jit be joking. It's true. It said that she was destitute and alone. It was literally going to say drugs and I was going to be joking. It's true. It's said that she was destitute and alone. It was all a lie. What? The headline ran, famous woman crack shot steals to secure cocaine, which I can't believe they missed a crack pun. Yeah, that is very disappointing.

Crack shot steals crack. For crack. Or takes a shot at using crack. Crack within crack it doesn't go well. Who's was known for his sensational journalism, which often left out facts to sell papers? What had really happened to kick off this story in the first place was that a burlesque performer who was going by the name of any Oakley had been arrested for theft and imprisoned in Chicago. But the papers just ran the story as if it was any Oakley and had arrested for theft and imprisoned in Chicago.

But the papers just ran the story as if it was Annie Oakley and had talked to her cocaine habit that she simply didn't have. Unfortunately for Annie, who remembers extremely conservative and a religious woman who thinks a lot about her reputation, dozens of other newspapers around the country just regurgitated the story, so it became national news. Annie was devastated by the lies. The terrible piece nearly killed me, she recalled. The only thing that kept me alive was the desire to purge my character. End of quote, the piece really put her reputation and career in jeopardy. Annie herself contacted all the newspapers and most retracted the stories in many ran

public apologies. But for Annie, this was not enough. She brought liable suits against every single paper that ran the story, But for Annie, this was not enough. She brought liable suits against every single paper that ran the story, asking for damages. One by one, she sued them all, obsessed with clearing her name. Over the next six years, she traveled back and forth around the United States, taking 55 separate publications to court. It was the largest liable action in US history at that point. The newspaper magnate responsible for all this, and one of the richest men in America at the time, William Randolph, her, her, her, was happy to fight Annie in court. He even

sent a detective to Ohio to dig up dirt on her. But found nothing because she was just a good person. It took six years, but Annie won 54 of the 55 cases. Her, herself, had to pay Annie the small fortune of $27,000. She had cleared her name, but after legal fees and expenses traveling, she actually lost money overall. Five. She didn't care because it's a, she won. It feels like that's an open and shut case.

It's like, there's no, she's definitely never went to jail. There's no record of that. Yeah. That's not waste everyone's time. Why does it have to be a court case? I know. What dirt could he pull up? Unless that dirt is, yes, she did go to jail for stealing stuff to support her cocaine. But then it doesn't matter.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Because yeah, I don't know what you mean. I'm like, yeah, but she one time, she took a chair, somebody else was saving that chair for their friend. Oh, okay, new bit of new info. Oh, this supports the crack theory. Yeah, maybe she did do a cocaine off this chair. Test the chair for crack. In fact, don't worry. We'll assume. Test the chair for crack. In fact, don't worry. We'll assume.

Never mind, I'll assume this. I assume it's crack until proven non-crack. So she won, but it took a lot of energy and a lot of time. She went back to the Wild West show one last time, but by this time the shows were no longer as popular. Movies had become the common way for people to experience the Wild West, and she retired in 1913. Frank and Annie tried to live a normal, quite unquote, domestic life for a time, but found it boring and sold up and travelled.

I love them. Now shooting and hunting for pleasure. Also, no kids. No kids. Which is just so, it's quite unheard of at the time. They're just like, there's travel and just living. Maybe they think it was causing it. And just into that.

And stopped it. Ah, he is husband goals. Oh my god. I figured out what was causing it. And he has husband goals. Frankie. Frankie. Frankie. She was famous right up until she died and used her fame to promote women's fitness and taught thousands of women to shoot. She thought women should be able to. People didn't realize that but she started Oz aerobics and yeah, there's early videos were all her And do you know they found early blue prids of Zumba amongst her really? She's on brining with guns. Zumba Zumba Zumba Zumba bang. Is that what you think Zumba is?

Yeah, I'm not sure the shoulders looking at Dave and saying Zumba Zumba Zumba Zumba Zumba. I mean, how else could that word possibly exist? Yeah, you're right. I'm zumbaring. And zumbar. And stopping zumbar. Well done, guys. You moved your shoulders up once.

Hit the shower. That was a great session of zumbar. Of zumbar. Copyright. A zumbar, zumbar, zumbar, zumbar, zumbar. Whilst in action, she could in hindsight be pointed to as an early feminist. For example, when Prince Edward became King Edward VII in 1901 after Queen Victoria

died, Annie was presented to Prince Edward and Princess Alexandra after a performance of Buffalo Bill again. She made a statement about the democratic equality of American women. She ignored Edward's outstretched hand and first shook the hand of Princess Alexandra before going to the king, which was against protocol. She's just sticking it to the man. Yeah, basically it's like you're the king, but I'm gonna go to your wife first. Yeah. I can't I don't know if it's a wife or a younger sister or I'm gonna go to the princess. Back then in that royal family could be all three. I know you only

listed two things. Could be his daughter as well. She also advocated for equal pay, for equal work. So, you know, she fought a lot for women. However, one thing that I found very strange, she didn't think women should vote. So she wasn't a supporter of suffrage. But there you go. So she fought a woman on many, many fronts.

I wonder what the time, yeah. Pogic, there is. Possibly, she just didn't believe in politics at all. Have you seen some of the arguments like the ads for the were anti-women getting the vote? So confusing, they're like, they'll either just be doubling up their husband's vote or negating it, so what's the point?

That was the one of the arguments he gets women getting the vote. It's like, that's anyone. What? Yes. There's two major parties, and she the vote? It's like, is that the anyone? What? There's two major parties, and she could vote for either. Yeah, but if she votes, What's the point? I mean, if she votes, but if she votes the same as a husband,

you know, they just double on the vote. And then if she votes against, negating it, so, you know, just like the husband vote. Doesn't make any sense. I just repeat it exactly when I said the first time, so sorry. It was worth pointing out how dumb that is. I know, I don't think my head's got around it still. I like to think that if any of those are alive now that she would see sense on that topic,

but there you go. One of her last performances came at a charity event in 1922. She in Frank by now, her husband of 46 years, put on a show and although she felt very rusty, then now Whitehead's 62 year old Oakley still put on an amazingly reviewed show. Again, she was the day's star attraction. She hadn't publicly performed for a long time, but she still had it.

I think 22, that's cool. She was later, she was involved in another accident later that year, this time a car accident and suffered a broken hip and ankles and never walked again without a leg brace. Before she died, she had her medals melted down, and she donated the money that they made to charity. Oh, the medals would have definitely been worth more if I don't melt it down. I know, any Oakley's medals now would be worth a lot, any Oakley died in their sleep on November the 3rd, 1926. She was 66 years

old. 66, that's the, the same sort of apprenticeship, but not quite relevant. No, just a side to scout. What are you going to do? No, no, no. We just lost a legend and a... No, I was weirdly pleased that like she died peacefully in her sleep. Not like she had, but she was murdered. Or like she was in a brutal accident and died instantly. No, it's like, no gone accident. Yeah, she just died in her sleep. Old woman at the time.

Now that's not old, but at the time, that's a pretty good life. That's a good ending. Especially with such a horrible childhood. She really made a lot of her life. Her husband Frank died just 18 days later. Oh, bro, some day some say he refused to eat after his wife died. He was faded away. But he was 10 years older than her. He was 76. They were buried together in Greenville,

Ohio, not far from Annie's childhood home. I cannot handle these two. They are my favorite. And they have got to go to Greenville on day. Put it on the list Dave. I think there's a plaque near her childhood farm saying that this is the home of young any oakley. This is near the home of any oakley. Ooh! That's so cute.

You're in the vicinity. So you were talking about children. I wanted to end up just with a couple of any oakley facts. Not fun facts, but... Facts. Thank you for establishing it, though, that they are not fun. Yeah, get the expectations, but... Alright, maybe. But you can tell me if they're fun.

I'll let you know. And Ian Frank never had children of their own, although they did have a dog named Dave. After Frank's friend Dave Montgomery, he became so... You call it Monty. Dave is a great name for a dog. Oh, it's not. There's a one-of-a-cat out there There is let's get a couple of Dave dogs

He became so used to that sound of gunshots. This is Dave that he's owned his put him in the show He was well trained enough to sit and have an apple shot off his head Oh, don't do that. That is one you don't want to go wrong But I mean she's taking shots at a husband as well So she could easily kill both both the family members in just one little slip. Yeah, and she didn't hold I didn't read anything wrong. She was shooting from birth, right? All 66 years shooting guns Wow, I love love that's a fun fact. I would have said that's fun

Anyokli has a bit of legacy her or her name has become slang for free tickets I've never heard this phrase before. This is because Annie used to shoot holes in things like playing cards. And because free admission tickets for theatrical shows at the time had holes punched in them, so avoid them being onsolved to other people. So you've got given a free ticket. It's got a hole, see, it can't body sell it. Isn't that funny, but it would still work to get you in?

Yeah, I don't know why it got in stock. I don't know, but I think it would be like, people would be like, you got that ticket for free. But because of that, these tickets came to be called Any Oakleece. Any Oakleece. You got Any Oakleece. Any Oakleece. So that's what the Michael Jackson song is about. Free tickets.

Yeah. Free tickets. Are you okay, and, you know, a cleak? So she made it as a free ticket. But that is the end of my report on Little Miss Short Show. A little bit criminal. Smooth criminals about someone selling dodgy tickets. The crime of the century. Is it? No.

Okay. Well, I shouldn't have talked over Dave's outro then. Yeah, I was just gonna say. I was gonna say. That is the end of my report on Little Miss Short Show at Annie Oakley, who I, person, thank you. Thank you very much. Had no knowledge of before this report.

And what an incredible life. I knew absolutely nothing, and that was fascinating. That was so cool. She was really cool. I knew the name of the musical about her life, but I didn't even, I didn't even realize that was a better real person. And when we first met Frank in this story,

I was like, I'm blood of here we go. Here we go, old man. I was wrong about Frank. What a bloody sweet. He stuck by it. He stuck by it together. He stuck by her. What does that mean?

No, because at the start it sounds a bit like, you know, he's an older man coming in. But really, it was true love. I had, by the end it was close to 50 years of marriage. Well, that's so cute. That's so cute. Just living and traveling, they got bored by the domestic life that has traveled.

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get to give themselves their own title. And Katerina has given herself the title, Cat Dog, aka, Senior Presidente of Taco Bell. Love it, yeah. I got it. Imagine that on a business cat dog. I guess, in your presidential Taco Bell. That are two jobs. How big do? But she's't know, yes, and you're a president. I'm talking about that in two jobs.

What do you think, Bill? But she's also given an option. So you two can choose. Do you want a question or a fact? Question. Fact. I'm going to have to go to Jess, she got it first. Here is Katerina's question.

If I don't like the question, can I then opt for fact? Oh, I think so. But I think what a real slap of the face. You can see all that fact. This is a great question, all right. Here's the question, can I then opt for fact? Oh, I think so, but I think what a real slap of the face. You just yell out fact. This is a great question, all right. Here's the question. If you were each a vegetable, what would you be? Carrot.

No, potato. Oh, I'm going to let him finish just in case. Yeah, smart. And after choosing your vegetable, who would get eaten first? Oh, Caterina just to get us get the ball rolling, she said she'd personally, she'd say her personality is carrot-like, but she would definitely choose a broccoli first. She'd eat the broccoli first. That's what she'd choose.

Okay, well I, my favorite to carrot and potato, and both of those can be eating in so many different ways, which I enjoy. So I'm going to say potato also because of my Irish background. The food of my people. Yes. Okay. I'm going to say potato, but who would get eaten first? Potato is great. Well, you got to figure out. Yeah, okay.

I'm thinking I'm a big fan of pumpkin. Oh, I was thinking pumpkin. I was thinking potato on that one. I can't pick. Oh, I was thinking pumpkin. I was thinking potato, no, I can't pick potato down. I was thinking pumpkin. I'm saying third choice for you then. Love it, love it, mash it, I love it. In a soup, it is, it's a great, it's really great. It's a versatile vegetable.

And it really spices up like the visual sensation that's on a plate as well. I don't cook, what am I talking about? No, we know. Visual sensations of a plate, am I right, kind of right now? Am I saying that right? No.'t cook. What am I talking about? No, we know. I think it's your sensations of a plate. Am I right, Connor? Am I saying that right? No.

Sensation. What would I be? I think would you accept peas as a vegetable? Yes. Okay. I'm a peas. You're a vegetable. Peas with gravy is, that is a laugh treat.

Okay. So it's the only kind of, it's one of those treats you can only enjoy within your life That's beautiful, man. Thank you So who's getting so what's Katarina again? So now I think that makes it not about a little side dish Next to your main protein. All right, you got four we got four should we all just say which one we'd go for first carrot potato pumpkin? I like I saved my favorite for last. Yeah, it's to the end I would start with carrot and then finish with carrot. Oh, I'd save a bit of carrot.

That's brilliant. I think carrots are bread. Yep. I would start with potatoes because usually in a roast, that's the bulk of the roast is potatoes. I do love a roast potato. I feel like he can start with a couple of potatoes and then save your pumpkin and then he carrots for later because there's the less prevalent.

Yeah, probably. I'd probably be working through my potatoes. Yeah, those potatoes. It's kind of like a little butter or sour cream or something on top. Well, what if you've got mashed potato and then you use that to pick up some of your peas? Oh, yeah, that's true. That's a good shit.

That's a good combo. Oh, so many ways. I'm hungry. It's me too. It's lunch time here. It is lunch time. Thanks so much for that catarena. We'll come back around because obviously there's not a heap of people in this section. So we're going to cycle back around and go through back to the start. I like the thing that it was

going to rain as well. Also, they got little short shot, Annie Oakley over the line. Well, how could we ever know? We'll never know. And then also what we also like to do at the end of our episodes is do some shout outs to some Patreon supporters and just normally comes up with a bit of a game for us to play. Is that, I say game, is that fair? Yeah, it's gonna be a little missed, little missed or something? Love it, yes. Little missed, little missed, because she was a big fan of the little missed, little missed, little

missed her books. I had a little missed chat about station. A pro priet. And a little missed sunshine also, missed the books. I had a little miss chat about station. A pro priet. And a little miss sunshine also appropriate. Depending on my mood. I can be a ray of sunshine or I can murder you with a look. Little miss murder. Have a chat about us.

Nah. So I'd love, can I, would you mind if I, I kick it off? Dave, would you mind looking up this place, oh, go, Coventry. From Coventry in the West Midlands of Grapebrinn in England, I'm pretty sure. I'd love to thank Troy Vinton Brown. Troy Vinton Brown, little Mr Snuggles. I love them.

That's not. She's off. Yeah, let me tell you, Coventry. So cute. Little Mr Snuggles. I don't want to put any pressure on our man. Troy boy, but Coventry is, but a 30 minute drive if you left right now. To Birmingham, what we're doing our show. Troy, Troy, come on. That'll be so good to see that Troy. We love that, please.

This is brilliant, now it's all over. 30 minutes, I drive 30 minutes to get here to the podcast, Troy. Yes, come on, mate. If you're saying that's too far, mate. You could also do it 40-minute train drive. Train drive, we'll be driving the train. You're a train driver. There's a couple that I imagine more expensive ones. Virgin trains or across country, only 20

minutes, Troy. 20 minutes. Come on, Troy. I'm actually like he's, he may have already bought a ticket. Come on, little Mr Snuggles. We love this Snuggle year in real life. I'd also like to thank from Queensland, from Close Burn, which I'm pretty sure is in Brisbane, because I met her in Brisbane. Chelsea, Patrick. Chelsea. Patrick. Chelsea, Patrick. Patrick. What do you got, Jess? You're on a hot streak already, one for me. A little miss. Snuggles. No, no, that's silly. Did you have something?

No, she had some great tattoos. So can you work that in? Little miss inked. Love it. Little miss Inky. Little miss Inky. That's nice. That's cute.

And I'm keeping the geography up. Chelsea lives a 40-minute drive from Brisbane and she came to our show. So Troy, if you don't do it. Troy, honestly, you'd best have a really good experience. You could be out of the country. Come on, mate. If you're at home when we're there in November,

you have no excuse. But if you have a good excuse, please, don't feel any pressure. I'm afraid that's not what your excuse is, and I'll let you know if it's a good one or not. No pressure. I'm not going to let you know. No, but no pressure.

But if nobody comes to our shows, and then we'll never come back to the UK, and we'll probably stop the podcast altogether. But I mean, it's so negative. Can't we? Can't work it along? No, I quit. This too is a huge success. Little miss Sunshine over there. I think a couple of great, great people.

I'd like to thank from Lyndon Hurst in New York State. New York. The United States. I'd like to thank great name here. Anthony or Anthony could be either D Torres, little... Mr. Jim. Jim Junk B.

Jim Junk B. Jim Junk B. Jim Junk B. Jim Junk B. Jim Junk B. Jim Junk B. Jim Junk B. Jim Junk B. Jim Junk B. Jim Junk B. D Torres little mr. Jim

Jim drunk he Jim junky oh he's ripped yeah he's ripped little mr. Jim what were you gonna say Torres because that makes it a ball yeah what is that is ball let a little little little little mr. Ball I like little mr Jim, little Mr. Jim Junkie. Love it. They weren't little, the mistors weren't little, were they? It was little Miss Sunshine or little Mr. No, they were little mistors, weren't they? No, they were just Mr.

I'm not, I'm not, I'm liking to be little Mr. Yeah, great. Little Mr. Jim Junkie could beat Mr. Strong in a fight. Big time. Thank you, Mr. Torres. You're googling it because you don't believe me. I'm sure they would have done little Mr. Oh, you're right.

Hmm. That's weird. That's interesting that Jess could be right about something. Little Mr. Right about strange. Why would you miss that opportunity to do? I know because it's so cute when they're little. I would also like to thank from Dallas, Texas. Oh, many gaza. Oh, many gaza.

Pantera country. Little Mr. Pantera. Black tooth grin. Little Mr. Yeah, little Mr. Little Mr. Grinner. Grinner. Grinner. Little Mr. Grinner. Love that. A big grin from many Gaza. Black tooth grin. Can I thank some people? Yes, please. Thank you so much.

I would also like to thank from New York, uh, Lewiston, specifically in New York. I would like to thank Christopher Davis. Oh, Chris, hello, Chris. Little Mr. Lion Tamer. Ooh, I like that. That's nice. That's fun.

Dreaming those lines. And, but I guess in this world, they're all little, right like that. That's nice. That's fun. Dreaming those lines. And I guess in this world, they're all little, right? Yeah. Are the lines so big? Yeah. Imagine like a many line tamer. Cute.

Like a little kid-sized person. What was it, what's Annie's version of this? What are we basing this on? Little miss short shot. Little miss short shot. Oh, that's hard to beat. But I think we've done it five times in a row. Yes, snuggles, yeah.

Move over, Annie. Thank you, Chris. And I'd also like to thank from Red Beach in Auckland. That just sounds beautiful. Just across the pond in New Zealand. I love New Zealand so much. Devon Brown. Dave, Little Mister.

Wow. Panicking. Little, panicking. Little Mr. Panic. Great. Yes, he's very anxious. Our middle name is Never. Oh, wow. Little Mr. Never Panic.

Love it. Yeah, love it. Fuck yeah. Stephen Browner really look up to you for courage because I panic a lot. Thank you so much to all the people that support us at Patreon. Remember you just got a patreon.com slash do go on pod shipping a little bit where all your dreams will come to helps the show grow it's one of the reasons we're coming to the UK and one of the reasons

we're hopefully going to come to the US next year. Yes we're getting really really close to our patreon goal. I think we're we're something like high 80%, maybe getting close to 90% of the way there, which is ridiculous. I can't believe we're actually going to go and do a show in Gary, Indiana, assuming that Gary lets us. Yeah. I'm going to have a word to Gary himself. Thank you. Yeah, you have your own good terms. You've got one of those Batman style red phones to the mayor of Gary, I assume.

I think, if my dream would be to do an episode of Bat Gary in Gary. Oh God. History of Gary. Yeah. That sounds like a great little topic. I think it could be great. It could be really good to talk about the guy,

the Gary who's the town's named after. Talk about the Jackson's. Talk about the the railcats, the short-lived steel heads basketball team. What about other famous Gary's? Other famous Gary Bucy. Oldman. Gary Gary Beers.

Oh, he's gotta be the king of the Gary surely. Let's go Gary. So Gary the name him Twy. He's so Gary. Oh, he's so Gary. Could not be any more Gary. Gary Bucanara, old AFL player. I don't know any other Gary's.

My uncle Gary. Dave's uncle Gary. You can get a a mention I'll go through a quick list But I think I really would like to focus in on the town. No Gary's do Gary BC report. That would be fun. Imagine if we could do it at the railcats baseball stadium Do you think we could get there the one that ascending tens of thousands of people? They're the ones that are sending you Who's the, yeah, that conversation stopped. Oh.

I'm gonna send a follow up email. He said it was gonna email me the next day, and he, that was not done that day. It's pretty much the guy. It's pretty long ago. If you're on good terms with this team, maybe we could organize to like hang out in one of their

like locker rooms or something. We definitely have to go to a game for sure. Oh yeah. So good. Oh my god. go to a game for sure. Oh yeah. So good. Oh my god. Anyway, we can continue dreaming off the pod. As we can. You can get in contact with us anytime,

suggest a topic. Just got a do-go-on pod.com, just got all the links and also a little thing for suggested a topic. You just click that and you tell us why it's a good topic and then we pick it. That's how it works. Sounds amazing.

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Oh that's free. No, yeah just have a good night or afternoon, wherever you are. I just enjoy yourself now. And yeah, check out the show notes if you want to know any more details about those live shows. Please, a little too desperate.

Please, better. Please. I'm better. I'm better. Oh yeah, so thanks desperate. Please. Better. Please. I made it up. Oh yeah, so thanks again for listening. We're hopefully you'll see you in a live show. Super. Until next time I'll say thank you and goodbye.

Later. Bye. I was hired a different note. I didn't like it. Let me try again. Go again. Bye. Better.

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