Two In The Think Tank - 148 - Michael Jordan and Space Jam

Episode Date: August 22, 2018

This week's episode is about legendary basketballer Michael Jordan and his rollercoaster of a life, hitting the highs of Sport (with the Chicago Bulls) and film (with Space Jam) and lows including family tragedies and a career change that didn't quite go to plan.Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out Matt's new podcast Prime Mates: https://www.planetbroadcasting.com/our-shows/prime-matesMatt's Tour dates: mattstewartcomedy.com/gigsReferences and further reading: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2017/12/13/the-25-highest-paid-athletes-of-all-time/#1b85f4694b64https://www.si.com/nba/2018/06/11/michael-jordan-lebron-james-greatest-of-all-time-debatehttp://www.notablebiographies.com/Jo-Ki/Jordan-Michael.htmlhttp://www.nba.com/history/players/jordan_bio.htmlhttps://www.biography.com/people/michael-jordan-9358066https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003044/biohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jordanhttps://www.britannica.com/biography/Michael-Jordanhttp://www.businessinsider.com/michael-jordan-ritual-how-superstitions-improve-performance-2015-12https://www.dish.com/dig/sports/the-evolution-of-baggy-basketball-shorts/https://www.nba.com/bulls/history/Chicago_Bulls_History-24393-42.htmlhttps://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/jordan-scores-63-points-in-playoff-gamehttp://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/bulls/ct-james-jordan-murder-timeline-full-htmlstory.htmlhttps://www.highsnobiety.com/2016/07/28/michael-jordan-father-death/

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Duga Go On. The People's Podcast. My name is Dave Honakian. I'm here with people that are people. It's Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hello. Oh, I'm a people who's a podcast. Yes, you're a people who's a podcast. No, we're podcast people, people. I'm just confusing already. Are you in what way are you confused by that? A good point. Are we not people? Are we not people? Are we not people? Are we not people?

Are we not people? Are we not people? Are we not people? Are we not people? Are we not people? Are we not people? Are we not people? Are we not people?

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that. We've struggled, traditionally, struggled to explain how this show works in a short amount of time. I've asked our Patreon listeners to give us some one sentence descriptions of the show to get us on topic This week though before I do that should so we're in Sydney this week this Friday You can see us describe the show live in person at the giant wolf theater at 8.30 and that means I'm in Tasmania tonight So if you're in Hobart and you're listening on the day that comes out come down to joker's comedy club It's gonna be a whole lot of fun. Oh so much fun

So I've asked people to describe the show. I mean, before we say that, we should also say we're going to be in many other places soon doing podcasts like this. Oh, sure, why not? We'll be describing the podcast in real life soon in Melbourne for a live show on October the 14th at Howler, which is a Bon Voyage show before our UK tour were coming over some chosen November. And once again, I will have a jug there for donations

for our civilians. Put nothing in the jug. Oh my God. If anything, take from the jug. It's your money, people. Feel the jug. Feel the jug. Okay, it's like, build the wall.

Feel the jug. If you're gonna fill the jug with anything, fill it with old British magnets that you've got from your own trips that you don't want anymore. Okay, yeah, I'll take those, but also cash. I'll take both. Cash money, yeah. Cash and Maccans. UK Pounds?

Yeah, I got it. If you've just come back from a trip to UK and you've just got those leftover pesky pounds. Couple of P. It's not worth converting it back into Australia, it does, because it'll be like five bucks and you're like, oh, don't worry about it. Just give it to me. Don't do it. And I'll take it on a whirlwind adventure. And that whirlwind adventure will take us to Edinburgh, Leeds, Manchester, Bristol, Birmingham,

and London, all for live podcasts. Please come along, dogoonpod.com, if you wanna buy some tickets. And I will buy a magnet at each place. Oh, that'd be great. I cannot wait to get my Leeds magnet. Yeah. Yeah, Harry Kool, maybe feature. Yeah, I hope I get that right. I cannot wait to get my leads magnet. Yeah. Yeah, Harry Kool maybe feature.

Yeah, I hope I get that right. I'm assuming I'm assuming. I really hope this will Harry Kool memorabilia in leads. How much of an impact did he have on that town? That's what I wanted. We'll soon find out. Was it a town before he was there? Yeah, it was a town and now it is a metropolis.

Yeah, a bustling metropolis. Yeah, I'm really hoping leads. Hopefully you're ready for Matt's live report on the life of Harry Kules. It will no doubt be presenting for you. It is going to be hard to avoid that. So this week I've got Petron Sof Waldron, who we know quite well from live shows in Melbourne. Hi Sof. Over the last few years. This is how Sof describes the show. Three comedians cover a random topic every episode with one giving a report while the other two try to derail

and interrupt with jokes and tangents. I don't know if we try to derail. It just happens. Anyway, thank you so much for that. Thanks Sof. And to start to get us on topic, the report give, which this week is me, asks the question. The other two do not know what the topic is. Here we go, here's this week's question.

All right. According to a Forbes article from the 2017 title, the 25 highest paid athletes of all time, who is the highest paid athlete of all time? Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods is number two. And I should also say, I put out the call about a month ago for sports topics.

Yeah, you did. And I put up a vote with I think maybe some of like 12 different options. And this one leapt out of the box and was never, never caught. Awesome. Oh, so is it a runner, you're trying to say? No, I don't know why I put that in running. You send both? It's not you saying both.

Highest level time for the game. Did I say it's so tiger, I've got the list here. Tiger is number two. Of all time. All time. Floyd Money Mayweather. Oh! Last two years he's been number one.

Okay, I was gonna say Greg Norman, but it's not Greg Norman. He's number nine. Greg Norman is on the list. He is number 13. I think I know it. Roger Federer. Oh, Roger. Cristiano Ronaldo.

He's having to search it's not them because it's Michael Jordan. It is Michael Jordan. Yes because it's Michael Jordan. It is Michael Jordan. It's Michael Jordan. The topic that was actually put forward and probably what the name of this episode will be is Michael Jordan and Space Jam. Right. But the bulk of the report is on Space Jam obviously. Do you know what I learnt while watching Space Jam?

Is it MJ? War he's. Please, yes. Let's not preempt anything that's going to be while watching Space Jam. Is it MJ? War he is. Please, yes. Let's not preempt anything that's going to be potentially coming up in the show. Awesome. Kind of over the fun fact section of the show. Also, I got the question.

You did yet again. I never get the question. I'm a big dummy. That is not true. Big old dumb. You're not just please. So he's the highest earning athlete of all time. Number two is Tiger. Number three, Arnold Palmer. Number four, Jack Nicholas. So, all government drink probably. I think it is. Arnold Palmer is a drink. As in they named a drink after him, not that he is a famous drink. He's a tall glass of water.

And he earned a lot of cash. I think it is. You continue. I'm going to Google our. Michael Schumer can number five, rounding out the top five. That's interesting. So it's, it's, um, wow. Yeah.

A lot of golfers ride up the top. You would think that going forward in the future football players. There are also a bunch of footballers. Start to catch. An analyst as well. An Arnold Parma is a non-alcoholic beverage of iced tea and lemonade named after American golfer Arnold Palmer. An alcoholic version of the Arnold Palmer, generally made with vodka, is called a John Daly. I thought it was going to be called a slow Arnold Palmer against the wall or something. It's got it was. It's got this weird innuendo ones. Yeah.

Slow screw against the wall. Yeah, which is like an offshoot of a screwdriver. What's the innuendo there? It's pretty blatant. Just a great fuck. Oh, I think I'm picking up what you're putting down. The harsh road against the wall. This could be sexual.

Yeah, a double meaning. I love it on Honda. A quick fuck. So according to this article, Michael Jordan's career earnings are $1.85 billion. That is crazy. That is so many dollars. And it says, but this is interesting how he's got it.

It sort of says, Jordan still maintains his long time endorsement relationships with Gatorade, Haynes, Nike and Upper Deck. But the investment that made him a billionaire was the $175 million file. Fire sale price he got, the Charlotte Bobcat, who are now called the Charlotte Hornets again, for in 2010.

Jordan bumped his Hornets, stake up to 90% in 2030. 90, wow. Wow. And the team is now worth $780 million. So he just, do you cover why the team was so cheap at the time? I think I don't at all. No, I don't talk about that again. But he, um, is he not about money? I, you know, you're about the man. The report's not about the money. The report doesn't actually doesn't get

that far under his life. I just then sort of at the end of his basketball career. It ends at the end of Space Jam. You described the credits and then we finished episode. And we roll credits. Plenty of people suggested this topic, including Bradford Carlson, Robbie, Ancesthevacins, Cole Nielsen, Corey Inners, Dean Clark and Tim Williams. That's a lot of suggestions. Tim suggested it way back, like very early in the original hat.

Mmm, cool. So here we go, here is the story of Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan was born on the 17th of February 1963 in Brooklyn, New York. Oh, he didn't live there long though. His parents James, who was a general electric plant supervisor and Dolores who worked at a bank had four other children so it was one of five and when Michael was still very young the Jordan's moved to Wilmington in North Carolina. I looked it up I didn't heard of it Wilmington.

No I like it. Sounds nice. Got a population of around a hundred thousand a little bit more than that and that's the 8th most popular city in North Carolina. I'm imagining he's the most famous person that's ever lived there. I looked it up because I was interested in that. And the other name that really jumped out at me was Woodrow Wilson, who lived there briefly, who was president.

He's a president, but also famous maybe more so in our world for being the name that Bart uses when he answers his teacher. Mrs. Craboppel's personal ad, Bart gets in over his head and they sort of develop a real love affair between the two. Woody. Woody. And then in the end, the rest of the Simpson's end

of having to help Bart right, I'll let it break up with her. He wants to write a letter, or home wants to write, I'm right, I'll let her say, I'll get off my face. I'll get off my face. I don't mind my face, yeah. No, home. And home, because, yeah. Anyway. I don't find face yet. No, Homer.

And Homer, because yeah, anyway. I also like Dear Baby. Welcome to Dumphill, population you. Ha ha ha. But in the end, would they help a mainly margin Lisa and Homer as well? This is what the letter ends up, this is a weird,

No, I love it, yes. So I'm trying, this is how the letter goes. You guys may remember it. Dearest Edna, I must leave you. Why? I cannot say where you cannot know how I will get there. I haven't decided yet. So one thing I can tell you, any time I hear the wind blow, it will whisper the name. Edna. And so let us part with a love that will echo through the ages, which I think is what Homer suggested. It's a great line. Woodrow. Anyway, so that...

No. He lived in Wilmington for a few years when he was younger and went on to become president of the United States of America. I thought you were to got that. Oh, I'm had an idea. So Jordan played basketball in high school, but he didn't make the high school team in soccer.

Oh, you are shitting me. Isn't that amazing? I love that so much. He didn't make the team. He didn't make the team. I didn't make the team. I could be Michael Jordan. Oh my god, you're Michael Jordan.

I could own the Charlotte Hornets or Bobcats one day. I love when she liked that happen. So on a much, much, much smaller scale, my brother failed Woodwork in Year 12, and he is a builder now. He is a carpenter. But at one point, did he go, you know, out of all the subjects I failed,

I'm gonna do that for it. Like, when did he decide? What could I have achieved on subjects I failed? Yeah, they are kind of inspiring stories when people don't let sepaks like that knock them down. Apparently, trained super hard from there, like it didn't, it only made it more determined and it made the team the following year.

And he obviously improved very quickly because he didn't make the team one year then he did. And then as soon as he graduated high school, he took a basketball scholarship to the University of North Carolina. So now he's getting his studies paid for based back on his... He's basketball. ...on the back of the house. Did he have like a growth sped or something? Is that part of it? That might be part of it. I mean, he's...

Yes, sometimes it's like, I'm only five foot four. I can never make the team over something. You come back, I'm six foot six. I can slam dunk now. And it works in reverse as well, where kids are tall for their age. Oh, and they're like, I had an early growth spurt and the other kids are just to the happen just. Yes.

You're captain of the football team. I was one of the tallest kids in grade six. I was, I was like told that all the other kids in basketball and then everybody else grew. And now I am average height. And it is a sore point for me. I'm sorry about that.

But I'm assuming also that, like obviously he played a lot in high school and he got better, but surely he would have been playing as a kid as well. Like, starting young. Yeah, I mean, if Space Jam's anything to be believed, he was shooting shot after shot in his backyard when his dad came out,

had a chat to him and he was using that net made out of chain that made a sweet noise. Oh, is that, is that basically real that's all document tree footage. I love that that noise. It's so satisfying when you get it in. Yeah, we had run the backyard sick. Any net is just sweet. Yeah, the sweet started. Oh yeah, such a sweet sound. Cool. So he's got a full scholarship. Full scholarship. And then in 1982, his first season at North Carolina, he was named Rookie of the Year and his team won the Atlanta Coast Conference Championship.

So he was very good in a very good team. They also beat Georgetown University to take out the NCAA Championship with Jordan scoring the winning basket. Oh, nice. So we're making these big clutch shots. Even then. Yeah. Um, he led the AE double C, the Atlanta coast conference in scoring and was named a college player of the year in both his years of college. Wow. So he like he, he went from not making the

high school team to being a gun. The best player in college. And college sport over there, it's not like university sport here where there's four people at the stadium watching it. They have full stadiums. Yeah. Thousands of people. It's on TV. Like you are a superstar already basically. I think they even have it. Yeah, that's right. And some decide to play longer in college ball and some decide to move over to NBA. It'll depend on the player, but even I think in football They have people will just watch the college football games on its own night, which is maybe Saturday I should talk when I don't know what I'm talking about something like that. I think it's a popular broadcast Yeah, that's right. It's whereas in Australia. I know one could tell you anything about any of the college

Yeah, no, no, it's sort of, it's either the top league or nothing else. Yeah. I think my university's team was called the Griff Gryffins or something I don't even know. Anyway, Griffins, but over there, you would know, you would know what your college mascot was. You'd probably yell it out every day. Go Griffins, I just said it.

You did. Making it out every day. Go Griffins, I just said it. You did. Make it up for last time. He was picked up by the Chicago Bulls in the NBA with the third pick of the 1984 draft. So he wasn't number one. He wasn't even number one. The number one pick did go to a very good player. He came a lager one. I don't know if you remember him at all. Yeah, he's from the Houston Rockets

Before starting his professional career with the Bulls Jordan was selected to play in the 1984 Olympics in LA and back then It was they did the teams weren't made up of pro basketballs I think I'll often in the old Olympics the the teams weren't filled up of pro basketballs. I think often in the old Olympics, the teams weren't filled with professionals. And still in boxing, you can't be a professional. Right. So it's interesting that sort of,

it's changed a bit in some of them. I think in soccer, it's like, there's an age limit on them. I think it's 21 and under or something. Yeah, it's 23 maybe. It's 23, but it's superstars away, so it's more of a team game. And also there's already the World Cup, I guess.

Yeah, true. So it's sort of like it would just there's already the World Cup, I guess. Yeah, true. So it's sort of like it would just be a second, second level World Cup, maybe, I don't know, sure. That's changed now. And I'll talk about that a little bit later, but the NBA players now do go to the Olympics. At that 84 Olympics, he won, they won gold, the USA team. Wow. Is that the first dream team? No, the dream team was later when pro players were allowed in. So that was, so before he even played in the NBA, he was an Olympic gold medalist.

Holy shit. I actually didn't know he thought about him. Yeah, I didn't realize that. I learned a lot from this. I do remember him being a gun when I was little. I don't remember. Yeah, I remember him playing against aliens in some big match, but that's about it. One interesting fact that a lot of people don't know is

that throughout his professional career at the Chicago Bulls, Jordan wore two pairs of shorts. The standard Chicago Bulls red uniform, but underneath those, and this is where it gets interesting, he also wore the blue University of North Carolina shorts from his days playing college ball. Wow! Yeah! So he's wearing two pairs of shorts, was I found? But they clashed too, he's wearing blue on red! Sorry, I had to fully cover them right,

and this is another interesting thing, and I didn't really know about this at all. To fit the second pair of shorts underneath, he requested that the uniform manufacturer, a appropriately called champion, made his shorts longer and wider so that he could fully cover the smaller, shorter, tighter, standard basketball shorts. And Jordan's request changed everything. Well, at least basketball shorts fashion. So it didn't change everything. Of course, because they used to be like,

almost like a full AFL for these shorts. Like quite short. Short and tight. And then they went to like really long and baggy. And according to an article at dish.com, that's the quote, at first nobody seemed to take note of Jordan's change in uniform as a hot trend.

By the end of the 1989 season though, Scotty Pippin was also wearing his shorts below the knees, and as Jordan's popularity grow, he appeared in more commercials for Nike wearing his new baggy shorts. By the time the 1990 season began, every team in the NBA had a few players wearing baggy shorts. But notably, Utah Jazz Point Guard, John Stockton was the last professional player to hold out with his short shorts, which was just a personal preference. So the... It swept through in just a matter of a couple of years, it went from Jordan, the only one with Big Baggy shorts, handful of players, everyone but John Stockton. That was the evolution. And his John Stockton did his retire, and that was it.

He retired his shorts. I say bring back the short shorts. Oh, especially on men with such long legs. Well, that retro footage is sick, right? I remember saying that old footage, but I just, I don't remember that ever bit. Well, I was, I don't think I'd seen basketball then, but it's just fascinating that it just won a guy

for a practical reason and just how cool he is in the community. He affected everyone. That's how it happens though. I remember that happening in high school. Michael Jordan dropped by. Yeah, and we all started wearing that. He wore the details.

No, there was a girl at my school who was like very effortlessly cool. She's one of those people. And she had these- Talking about yourself in third person again. No, oh God no. Now I'm effortlessly. Anyway. You learned it.

You learned that skill. Sorry, tell me about it. She wore a specific school shoe. It was a tea bar. Oh, that would be a my school too. Yeah. Well, like, and but the rest of us weren't wearing them. We were wearing lace-up shoes.

She had like the sandals. And my mom had been saying for years, you should get these tea bars. I was like, oh, mom, and but the rest of us weren't wearing them. We were wearing lace up shoes. She had like the sandals and my mom I've been saying for years you should get these tea bars. I was like, oh mom, no, I want lace up shoes And I'm gonna wear socks not stockings And then like Solicity was wearing teabars and stockings and I was like, oh mom, I need teabars this year And can you give me some blue stockings please? It's not wearing this stupid thing you made me wear I hate you. I can't believe you thought this was a good idea. And she was like, I'm gonna marry you. So was that cause a flick as we call it?

Yes, yep. Didn't give a shit. Or is that was that a like a? She was just so cool. And then it just kind of spread. Everybody was wearing that. So it's finally. And now they've banned them at my old school.

Banned the tea bars. Yep. So we were one of the last generations to get to wear tea bars at my school. Now they're saying is a symbolabas. Yep. So we were one of the last generations to get to where teabas at my school. Now they're saying is a symbol of rebellion once again. Yep. It's pretty great. So I get the Jordan effect.

Yeah. I get it. I happen to flick. Don't know. She left the school and you're right. You're blind. Yeah. What to start trending enough?

She's like, my work here is done. Yeah. She's like, my field to them. Next. Is that like a heel? Is that a pun on heal? Is that a pun on heal? Yes, I met that. So good.

Thank you. You're on this social. It's very sharp. When Jordan arrived at the Bulls in 9.84, they were not going too well. They joined the competition in 1966, which interesting is also the St. Kielder Football Club one there, one and only

Premiership in the VFL slash AFL. To date, I mean, so far, thank you. Well, the time it's on here is next year. Yeah, that may be done. That's right. But I mean, it's still true that it was their first, but just not their only. Yep.

Any more. It's also the England one, the football world cup. They brought it home that year. That's still going to be the first and only. Any hell, well, it will be for at least the next four years. Shut up, Dave. We need to sell tickets through our UK show. So if you could not insult. No, no, no, I insult people.

So they have to pay money to see me in person to punch me. Dave, that's a terrible idea. And then I buy a security guard. Buy one? Buy one. We're going to put more. Get one free. Behind a fence like in Blue's Brothers. Yeah. Bye one. We're gonna get one free behind a fence like in Blue's Brothers.

Yeah, chicken wire. Yeah. Yeah, throw whatever you want, pal. Please don't throw stuff. No liquids. Like it's true. Oh, no, nothing gets liquid out. Anyhow, the Bulls joined the NBA in 1966 and had been a middling club since then.

That a few periods where they were kind of pushing towards contention and out. But in the early eighties, they were going particularly poorly. So when he got drafted, was he like crap? I know, I think it was pretty average team. I guess so. Not, I guess you're just happy to get picked up. Yeah, I think you just picked up. Yeah, I think you'd just be good. Yeah, third pick. You get paid a lot of money, yeah.

Yeah. So they'll go and pull the attendances and reflect with that, not big crowds, going to the games. But the arrival of Jordan started turning this all around almost immediately. And he was named the leagues rookie of the year and made the All Star team in his first season. Wow, did people usually do that?

I don't think so, no. I mean, rookie of the year normally happens in the first season, but making the All Star team in his first season. Wow, do people usually do that? I don't think so, no. I mean, Rookie over the year normally happens in the first season, but make an All Star team that you first like me. All Star team in your first, yeah. In Australia, one Rookie this year? Yeah, Ben Simmons. Did he make the All Star team that? I don't think so, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

Sinai! Yeah, we went to school together. Went out there. Did you? No. I'm a lot older than him. That will do. It'd be 90, I guess. 25.

I hate that. I hate that now. It feels so far away. Like, ah. Hey, remember that Jordan debuted in 1982. 84. So does that make it feel better? You weren't even born then.

That's true. That does make me feel better. He found the second year a lot harder though as he missed much of the season with a broken foot. Um, but he did return in time for the playoffs and he scored 63 points against the Boston Celtics. I think I think it was in his second game back after... 63 points in a game.

After a broken foot. No, that's fucking mental. It's still the record for a playoff. Do you wanna know my PB? Loved to know. 26. That's very good. That's great, Jess.

63! Yeah, but that's Michael Jordan that's Michael Jordan what you're forgetting And he was only planning as the Boston Celtics. I bet you were planning as for the Harlem club trip Yeah, they're tall Just play for the generals and got 26 points It's crazy. So yeah, I think that's still Still the NBA player Freckle and pretty sure that is correct. That's insane. But even that wasn't enough. You should have saved that for a fun fact.

I'd deemed that fun. Oh, that was a fun fact then. Oh, fun! Okay, great. It wasn't enough for them to win the game though. Celtics. What? They won in double over time and went on

to win the championship to Celtics. Flurry Bird. 63 points from one player, not enough. I'm in the semesters. I guess every other player got one point each. That's crazy. That has blown my mind. All right, guys, game plan.

Throttle to Michael. Well, that was, yeah, I reckon that was probably exactly. We've definitely all been in teams like that. Michael Gisborne. I was the number of the person who's his pass or two Michael Jordan gives the ball. All right. What do I? Oh, I'm Michael Jordan. Okay. I'm Michael Frick and Jordan. The legendary Celtics player Larry Bird said at the time of Jordan. He's the most exciting awesome player in the game today.

I think it's just God disguised as Michael Jordan. Wow. That's a cool quote. Larry Bird seems cool. I don't know a lot about him. I don't know a lot about him either. So I don't want to say that in case like he's a creep. Proud, I think it was nice. What if from what I read about him in this,

he seemed like a little bit of fun. Then's a little bit of cheekiness from him later. But other people seemed to think he was like, he was a bit, he was very competitive and stuff maybe. But I don't know. Sure, he's not only sports person. Yeah, I don't know a lot about him.

Like, think of anybody who's an professional sports person and it's like, oh, they're a bit competitive. Yeah. That's how they fucking win. Yeah, that's how they bother doing what is basically a pointless pursuit to a very high level. Says three podcasts. To a very high level. So it says three podcasts. To a very high level.

Pointless pursuit. The following season, Jordan once again had a year of personal success, becoming only the second NBA player after Wilton's still Chamberlain, to score 3,000 points in a season. 3,000 points. Well, do you know the record holder for the most points in the game is Wilk Chamberlain. He's the only one to score over 100 in a game. Wilk, the stilt seems like an absolute freak.

100. 100 points. I, I one time was MVP of my team because I got just over 100 in a season. That's crazy. But how many games are in your season? No, no, no. They do play other games. Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, it's Michael's crazy. But how many games are in your seasons? No, no, no. They do play games. Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, it's Michael's job.

Yeah, now we just played one game, Caesar. I got a home point. That's good then. Thank you. That's really good. You just equal the record. Crazy. Uh, on top of that, he was the first player to get 200 steals and 100 blocks in a single season. So it was also seen as a really good defensive player. It was an all-round player. just played to get 200 steals and 100 blocks in a single season. So it was also seen as a really good defensive player. It was an all-round player. I'd like to make the people who keep these stats too. Like people who are like, oh, yeah, but you got this many assists.

It's like, how do you possibly keep track of it? Are you seeing the clipboard and just like marking everything down? Is it happening? Yeah, that's what I think there's a team of them sitting at the game. So it's like, yeah, but if there is, is one person in charge of points, somebody's in charge of fails, somebody's in charge of assists?

Honestly, probably, because at the end, there are always obsessed with who got a triple double. Yeah, a triple double. It's crazy. I've seen videos of the teams who do it in the AFL. I feel like it's one guy calling, the binoculars, and another person with the pen mark him down so you're like, hardball get this name or number.

And there's all these weird stats in there. A big zawasting. Well, some of the stats they come up with, like the commentators you'll hear them say, well, this is the first player to do this since this player and this year. And you're like, where did you pull that from? How did you just go? Well, that's, person's just done something. Let's see the last time that was to,

how amazing. A big sweet spreadsheet. Oh, the spreadsheets. Yes, the software they'd have. Oh, no. Yum yum yum. Spreadsheets. He racked up more individual accolades

over the next few years, but it was the ultimate success that Jordan was after. And a handy team was being built around Jordan to help him achieve that, including players like Scotty Pippin, Horace Grant and John Paxon. Horace Grant, I've never heard that name. I'm pretty sure it was the guy with the goggles, if I'm remembering correctly. You remember, player, you used to wear the guy with the goggles if I'm remembering correctly. You remember player who used to wear like the goggles? Sports goggles. Is that not cream Abdul Juba? Oh, there's probably been two players.

Cream Abdul Juba, what a name. No, he's the highest scoring player, right? Yeah, what do you see? His trademark move, the sky hook. I think that was him. And just cream Abdul Juba, what a name. What an everything. He's my every thing.

He's my every thing. So the team's getting stronger around Jordan as well. And that led to the NBA title in 1991 by defeating the LA Lakers, they then went back to back in 92 by beating the Portland Trail Blazers. And that same year, Jordan would win another Olympic gold medal in Barcelona.

Barcelona. So he's, I mean, I've, I've breezed across his first two championships. There's so many things you could focus on. I could have broken down the seasons, obviously, that might have been a bit game nine First quarter He also has a you know, he says has a lot of success. So the Olympics. This is the dream team year

They were the first USA Olympic basketball team to be made up of active NBA players And they became known as the dream team and and a described by some as the best sporting team ever put together of any code. Wow. They thrashed opponents on their way to the gold. The closest anyone got to them was in the gold medal match. How close, Ricken. It's not that ridiculous, but it's within 15, 32.

That was the closest. The closest. They were playing against Croatiaaisha in the gold medal match. Wow. Australia, we must have been sick or something like that. Yeah. We were sick. Yeah, not big of a world. We were, we were gazing.

Gazing. Gazing would have been there. Gazing. We, I named it a goldfish after Andrew Gaze. I loved Andrew Gaze. I wanted to be number 10 like him. Yeah. He was number 10 days. He seems like a good guy. He seems like a great dude. Oh, when he commentates,

oh man, he's the best. He gets so excited, so cute. He used to do the, I think he used to do like the 40 tips or something at the end of the Channel 10 Sports News, and then he'd shoot a ball over his head or something. LAUGHTER And he got it, at least half the time. LAUGHTER I'm just looking up the... Because I remember the Bermers have a pretty... which is the Australian basketball team,

have a pretty good record at the Olympics. That year, they made quarter finals and finished sixth. OK. That was pretty good for a small, not super basketbally nation. Yeah. I feel like the team that we must be looking to put together in the future, it's got to be handy with players like Simmons. Yeah, true.

And I think there's something like eight Australians in the NBA now, which is wild. Yeah, wild. So basically the team is just them right? Yeah, I think so. Finish fourth, the Australian's in 96, 2000 and 2016. So top four, it seems like that shouldn't be right, but anyway, everybody is. Anyway, so with that dream team, I remember reading that like the opponents

basically would stick around and ask for like photos and autographs for the other team after the game. Yeah. Because you're like, you're other team after the game. Yeah. Because you're playing against the best. Yeah, heroes. The people you got posters of on your home. And they. Who would that be for us in podcast terms?

I guess Steel Saunders, Cameron Alexey from Warkcheck. Yep. To the thing, Tank. Mr. Sunday movies would be there. Yep. Nayso, obviously. Mm-hmm. Sunday movies would be there. Yep. Me, so obviously. Mm-hmm. Uh, I don't have Naomi.

We get to work amongst our heroes. Yeah, that's true. I've met all these people. Best team we've ever put together. Wow. Ever. That's cool. So this is some of the players on the team.

Check this out for a roll call. OK. Clyde the Glard Drexler. Oh, the Glard! Sir Charles Barkley. Charles Barkley. The magic call. Sir Charles Barkley.

Oh, it's got a really funny nickname. He has a good name for a dog. Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson. That's a good nickname. Clyde the male man Malone. Fuck yes. As well plays that I I can remember Nick Mams for Patrick Cuing David Robinson and Larry Bird amongst many others tight tuit shorts Stockton was there too

So Charles Buckley's nickname is the round mound of rebound Also Charles, but I really like the round of round of round of round of rebound. No, I don't know how I feel about it. Yeah, it's a... I love it. Obviously. I don't get it, but I love it. The round mound, I think they've just gone, he's a good rebounder.

And he's pretty short. And he's pretty stocky for an NBA player. Yeah, I thought he was like a shorter player though. I didn't think he was short. Oh, that's what it is. No, he looked that up white. Mounds don't have to be that big. No, I'm just thinking like rebounders would be tall.

Check height, maybe I'm wrong. He's one meter 98. Maybe because he co-hosts the TNT NBA show with Shaq, who is two meters 16. So anyone next to him looks time. Shaq is huge. Yeah, he's very big. Karim Abdul Jibar, who we had before, he is two meters 16. So anyone next to him looks to him. Shaq is huge. Yeah, he's very big. Karim Abdul Jibar, who we had before,

he's two meters 18. Wow, that's true big. How do you buy pants? Where's Michael Jordan is six six, which I think is around that one, 98 as well, maybe something like that. How does Shaq buy pants? I don't think he gets normal pants.

God, he's got his own shop. Shaq. Shaq does Shaq buy pants? I don't think he gets normal pants. God. He's got his own shop. Shaq. Shaq Shaq. Yeah. Shaq Shaq. Shaq Shaq. Shaq Shaq.

No. So we brush shorts. Shaq Shaq. Shaq Shaq. But the first one is Shaq like name. And the second one is Shaq like SH. And that's where he buys Shaq stuff. No.

Oh. Oh. Get a stack he buys Shaq stuff. No. Oh. Get a stack of the Shaq. At Shaq Shaq. Shaq Shaq. Shaq Slack Shaq. Oh, yes. Okay, yes. That's great.

Shaq's Fanny Packs. Shaq. Shaq's Fanny Shaq Back. She's really doing episode on Shack one day. He seems like a really cool guy. Seems like really fun. Doesn't seem like a fun guy. But he wasn't in this team?

I don't know, he's a golden. I think this might be just pre-shack. Anyway. Back to Jordan. He's only successful because he's in a pre-shack world. Are we right? Yeah, definitely. Do you mind looking up at it. He's only successful because he's in a pre-shack world. Are we right? Yeah, definitely. You might look it up when he was shocked, came into it.

Back to Jordan. So after the Olympics, he then led the Bulls to a three-peat, in 1993, when they beat Sir Charles Barclays, the round mound of sound. Rebound. And rebound. The pound of rebound. And his Phoenix Suns team So that's for the third time Jordan was awarded the playoffs MVP as well. So he's starring in the best team

He's killing it The Suns mascot by the way is go the gorilla as discussed on episode two of primates podcast, which is why isn't a Sun Yeah, well, I tell that story on episode two of the podcast primates, you should check it out. Shaq debuted in 92 for our lander magic. So he just didn't, didn't quite. And he was the first pick. Yes.

And it was he, it felt like he might have been rookie the Eocon. He won a gold medal in 96, the next Olympics. Right. So you just didn't quite make the dream. 96 was Atlanta. Yeah. Yes. And he was the rookie of the year. He was a rookie. Not a forget things. We'll talk about

Shaq another time though. So this, I mean, it's hard to go through a do-go on episode without hitting tragedy. And I didn't realize this, but while Jordan and his career was reaching heights on the court, Jordan and his career was reaching heights. On the court, he found tragedy off the court in 1993. He was around a month after winning the championship. Jordan was informed that his father never arrived home after leaving a friend's house just after midnight on July 23rd, which was a week before his 57th birthday. On August the 3rd, a body is found in a creek in South Carolina. Oh my God. But at that stage is unidentified and listed as a John Doe.

There is a gun wound in the Baile de Cane body. Four days later, the body is cremated by a state coroner. As a John Doe, the coroner is quoted as saying, this was the first time that we didn't know who we had within a few days or so. We were left with nobody missing in North Carolina and nobody missing in South Carolina. It was not done lightly.

I hope the family understands why we did what we had to do. Wow. Yeah. So I thought I'm like, it's a John Doe, but they just... But hang on. But...

A bit... They hadn't, the family hadn't... Nobody noticed? Well, I found this a bit confusing, but it sounds like he traveled a lot for work, and there was some confusion. They didn't realise he was missing till a little while later. On August 5th, police find Alexis that has been stripped down for parts. On August the 5th, police find a Lexus that has been stripped down for parts. He's found around 60 miles southwest of where the body had been found. And it is later realized that this is Jordan's car. And on August the 13th, James Jordan is identified by his dental records.

This is after, obviously, they've called it in. Teenage friends, Daniel Green and Larry Demory are the prime suspects for the murder of James Jordan. And key evidence came from the records of Jordan's car phone. At 705 on the morning of the murder, a two minute call is made to a sex line. Then at 10. It was now from a car phone. From his car phone.

The car phone, they stole it. Just after killing someone. It doesn't feel like the sexiest place to make a call from. Just killed someone 60 years later and then he was just the car that's the only thing going just off. Just killed a person. I'll probably go inside to make the sex call. Haha.

Haha. I'm going to call a sex line from the car. Hot. I mean it is, it's the car phone. No, I know I know Do you want him to just pull that cord out just outside of the car with that? No, I mean no, it's better to because I don't know what he's doing while there's a sex we on the phone the sex line Yeah, I guess I think we're directly so I'm rather we do that in the car than not in the car, but you know Soon after the phone is used to call

Not in the car, but you know. Soon after the phone is used to call, this is about 1047, the phone is used to call Green's half brother. Before a series of calls are made to relatives and friends of Green and Demory over the following days. Largely due to these phone records, on August the 15th, Green and Demory are arrested and charged. And the following day, police search Green's home, finding a gun and also a rap video in which Green is wearing Michael Jordan's NBA championship watch and 1986 NBA All Star Ring, both given as presents from Michael to James. A rap video.

He records a rap video where he's like, shown off his Michael Jordan bling. You fucking moron. Green and Demory agreed to testify against each other. So they turn on each other. Of course they do. And in their trials, not in only six, so a few years later, both of our guilty and sentenced to life in prison, both at records

of some pretty bar stuff before that. Yeah, I think latest teenagers taught us as adults, I guess. Still, it's like, come on. So, that was a weird thing in the middle of this report. I had no idea. So you come across any articles that were talked about Michael Jackson's dad and how there's rumors that he was killed by the mob and things like that?

Michael Jackson's dad. So Michael Jordan's dad, sorry. Oh, no. Oh, they thought that this is some sort of cover up. Yeah, because he was like, maybe Gamp, this is all absolute speculation online that I've read before. Right, no, I didn't, I didn't see any of that.

But he's like, yeah. I didn't go into the dark web, though, Dave. Yeah, well. Where you do your reports. My homepage, check out any Oakleys and pretty dark stuff in there. Yeah, no, I just remember reading an article about that once going, just one of those theories

that you know, he was gambling and weird. Possibly. But that sounds pretty open and shut to me. Yeah, which is the video, isn't it? It's got a rap video. That's ridiculous. We're in the ring. Yeah.

Sorry to have fixed it on the car phone. I just thought that's a weird play, it's the call sex line. Yeah, I mean, it seems like these might be kind of weird dudes. Yeah, I think you're right. Not very bright either. No. I'm very glad they got caught, but.

You think they're still in jail? Yes, I'd believe so. Wow. I did not look that up, so I don't know why I say believe so. Just a feeling I hope so. Yeah, me too. Obviously, Jordan was grief-stricken by his father's death, and this was one of the key reasons why Jordan quit basketball at the heart of his powers.

So he just won three chammachips in a row. With no reason why it wouldn't be gone for a fourth or following year. But this shocked the sporting world. According to NotableBiography.com, Jordan had won three straight NBA titles, three regular season MVP awards, three playoff MVP titles, seven consecutive scoring titles, and he was a member of the All Star team every year that he was in the league. In just nine seasons, he'd become the Bulls all-time leading scorer. You just can't get a better record than that. No, it's just like...

It can't get better. It's just so perfect without winning every single title, right? Or, you know, like, it's just wild. It's just such a good. Yeah, just the last three years, he's won the championship. He was the best player in the championship, and he was also named the best player in the whole league. Well, that's every level. And the top scorers, those last three years, it's at every level. And the top scorers.

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What's he up to next? He's quit basketball, but he's got to do something with his time. Do you guys know what comes next? If Space Am is true and it's... It's vaguely based on it. He plays golf and he gets stuck in a hole and the human gets a bulldozer in and starts digging to heaven. I mean, hell. That's your version of heaven. You're a bad boy.

My bad, bad boy. Does he actually try baseball? Yes, he does. That's what he does. We all grieve in our own ways. It turns out that MJ does it by switching sports, still a little professional capacity. In the 1994-95 season, Jordan tried out with the Chicago White socks. The big, big teams also obviously,

just in the same town as the Bulls. And Chicago's Bull coach at the time, Phil Jackson, said at the time, I've said that too many times at the time. What was this? He was at the time. Okay. His father, there's what he said, his father wanted to play pro ball and did play semi-pro. His dad, his dad, James wanted to play. When his father passed away, I think Michael was kind of living

out his father's dream. That's one of the things I thought when I heard it. I was just further on to play pro baseball. Yes. And he kind of wanted, and he also encouraged Michael to play. But he was also super encouraging with his basketball. Apparently we didn't just keep hitting the ball out of his hand and putting a baseball glove on.

Yeah, kept giving him a, he's like you can use the basketball, but here is a really huge baseball bat. And hopefully this will somehow still work out for you. According to Michael Jordan, the life by Roland Laisenby, which I'm going to quote a little bit here, Jordan was excited about the change. Quoting the book quoted him as saying, all the son of a fellow kid again. Oh, that's nice. They also described Jordan's legendary work ethic transferring over to baseball, which prompted White Sox hitting coach Walt Renerak to describe him as one hardworking mother fucker. So welcome, we just get a quick quote for our biography on Michael Jordan. How did you describe him?

One hard work in mother fucking. Thanks, well, that's all we need. Okay. And I'll do it. Yep. And cut. See you, Walt. The hard work didn't really pay off particularly though.

Oh, the mother fucker. He struggled and was a long way off of the Major League pace. Instead, he was allocated to the Birmingham Barons in the double A Southern League, which according to the article, is a prospect's league, mostly for young talent and kind of like a, I guess one of their feet are kind of clubs. So, I didn't realize this, but it sounds like the pro ball Major League clubs will have little clubs around, littered around the country at different levels. Sure, like in a league.

Sort of feeding. Yeah, I guess, you know, like as a training round. It's a lot of training. Yeah. Well, sometimes now, as your rules, in AFL, they get sent back to the VFL when they come back from injury to sort of just get back into the foregone and picked back up into the maintain.

Yeah, it's some sort of version of that, but it's interesting that it's not over in the same city. So these guys, I think they were in Alabama. Right. Yeah, and there's other, yeah, that sounds like they have teams all around the country. So you local Alabama team, and the world's greatest basketball player was playing

both of those teams. So it's so strange. Apparently it was a big circus, people like brought so many journalists and fans, and stuff would follow them around. It's also like the in, in soccer or football, my Melbourne team, Melbourne City, they've been bought by Manchester City, who also own New York Football Club, on New York City, Football Club. So they've got these other teams around the world.

And one of the Melbourne players is being sent over to, he's been signed to Manchester. So I think they're using it in a similar kind of way. So that's probably more common. It's just a bit weird for Australia because we just don't have that big of a, yeah. Like there's not as much money. And so I can't afford to just have teams everywhere. Anyhow, in general, yeah, he founded the Going Very Tough, and he was quoted, talking to the New York Times, saying, it's been embarrassing, it's been frustrating. It can make you mad. I don't remember the last time I had all those feelings at once, and I've been working

too hard at this to make myself look like a fool. For the last nine years, I lived in a situation where I had the world at my feet. Now I'm just another minor leaguer in the clubhouse here trying to make it to the major leagues. So he was trying, he was genuinely trying and he really did want to make a goal of it. But the idea of trying his hand at Pro Baseball

first came up in 1990, apparently he's saying, it began as my father's idea. We had seen Bo Jackson and uh, got called down Sanders' try two sports and my father had said that he felt I could have made it in baseball too. He said, you've got the skills, you thought I'd proved everything I could in basketball and then I might want to give baseball shot. I told him, no, I haven't done everything, I haven't won a championship, this is back in 1990. Then I won it and we talked about baseball on occasion and then we won two more championships and then he was killed. So you could sort of see where his head was at and why he did want to have a crack at baseball. I mean he'd feel

you'd be feeling a lot of different things, but I mean, with all that in mind, it makes some sense. This is a quote from a pitching instructor, Tom House, who said at the time, he's attempting to compete with hitters who have seen 350,000 fastballs in their baseball labs and 204,000 breaking balls, such weird specific numbers. He said, baseball is a function of repetition. If Michael had pursued, I'm guessing he's basing that on real data, but anyway, baseball is a function of repetition.

If Michael had pursued baseball out of high school, I don't doubt that he would have wound up making as much money in baseball as in basketball, but he's not exactly tearing up AA and that's light years from the big leagues. Wow, okay. That makes sense. Baseball, it's really just, and that's what, isn't that how they train? It's just like a ball machine just flinging balls at you,

just in the nets, just heating and heating and heating. And he's, it's gonna be very hard to come back from that. You'd have to have just some sort of freakish talent, which I guess, which he has for basketball. Yeah, that's right. He did steadily improve as the season wore on though, have just some sort of freakish talent, which I guess, which he has, the basketball. He did steadily improve as the season wore on though, earning a promotion to the Scott style scorpions of the Arizona fall league.

But in the end, baseball wasn't for him a mix of circumstances, including a major league baseball player struck meant that Jordan decided to go back to the NBA. He did. There's a lot of, it's again, like everything, I could, could unholy absurd on his baseball career. There's a lot of cool little stories in there how he interacted with the other, like he's playing with, you know, other battlers in baseball league,

just young kids and old, um, journeyman and stuff. Right, and he's like, obviously a multi-millionaire. Yeah, so it's just a real fascinating way of how that would have all worked. I've had to make a great movie, I reckon. It feels like something, you know, like. Space jam too. That's in there, that's in the works.

Apparently, you, you, you, I'm available. It would be taking a different direction to make it about, he's used playing baseball in the model leagues, but anyway. I mean, they had a little bit of that. Yeah, there was a little bit of that, which was fun. I was just gonna deep dive, I'm gonna explore more. I mean, they had a little bit of that. Yeah, there was a little bit of that, which was fun. He was just going deep dive.

He was going to explore more. He did. He also did play an exhibition match for the White Sox. And he did a few, I've looked at some highlights. And he made, you know, he made a few hits. He made some runs, but yeah, he was just a, he went from really ordinary up to pretty average. But he was on, like, if you kept going on that path, who knows, he may have...

He's obviously a competent player, like he's a very good natural sports person. And has the work ethic totally. And commitment that would have if anyone had a chance, maybe he would have, but it just sounded like it was too hard. And then that player strike happened, so I think we saw that as an opportunity potentially. And on March the 18th and 1995, Jordan sent his now legendary two word facts, which is like his announcement and also his press release. I quit. I'm back. Yeah. I never had that, but it just makes sense. And that was his him announcing that apparently with his team around him, they

were writing all these different drafts. And he's like, oh, no, no, it's not quite right. And he's like, let me ride it. And he came back with the two words. Oh, that's badass. So how long have you been away for just one season? Yeah, about a year and a half. So there's a lot again, like not playing baseball since you were a kid.

He didn't play baseball since he was in high school. So for over a decade. And he tried play baseball since he was in high school, so for over a decade. And he tried to, and he did okay, yeah, professionally. It's crazy. But a year and a half away from, and he didn't play any basketball in that time. He was very focused on baseball. So it's a long time to, oh, he would, he'd definitely start to creep in. You're like, what if I'm not good anymore? Yeah, there must have been some of those doubts I'm guessing.

But then you can break from anything. But then you're reminding yourself, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I looked at my shoes and I saw that it's a picture of me on there. I don't know, I'm pretty good at this. That day, a guy called Steve Shanweld, who worked for the Bulls, said that the phones instantly started ringing after hook.

Our season ticket waiting list started to grow again, TV, writing, skyrocketed, and interest from companies who wanted to sponsor us, accelerated, he said, overnight we became the center of the sports universe again, instead of just another very good NBA team. So I can tell when he left the team and his team actually been really pissed off. Because he'd be like, you must have had some understanding

with what he went through. I suppose. Yeah, that's right. It's not just like he was like, well, I'm good. But he's hope that he's not like a daver of the team, because obviously, well, look at all the attention that you hope that he's not like a devour of the team, you know, because obviously, well, look at all the attention that I get because he's coming back.

So he's making the money. So he said they'll do whatever they can to keep him happy. And he's also gave a bunch of them a premiership with championship rings and watches apparently, which I didn't realize as a thing. But yeah, so I think that there must be mixed emotions between jealousy, but also appreciation, and also just you'd be like, I feel lucky to be playing in this once in a generation team, but I'm a very good basketballer as well. My whole life, I was the gun, which is what?

I guess anyone in a professional team. Yeah, I was the best in my college. Yeah. Yeah, I was the best in my college as league, probably. Yeah. And then you get there and you're like, uh, Michael Jordan. He makes me look not very good. Yeah. Apparently he and that guy was traded back into the team who started with them to take over his His place and he was like a good ordinary player

I wish I could remember his name, but apparently Once Jordan City was coming back though arrived for the first game back and the coach saw this guy in the locker room And he goes, I want to start Michael tonight and he goes, you sure you want to do that? And he says they both laughed and just walked Is that like a real cool guy? He's he was the guy who you think could have hard feelings. He's like All right, you got you want your spot back cool, I guess. I feel so bad. It's good. Yeah. But he just, I don't know. He's also part of this awesome story. So it's, it's a tricky one. And he still played out, you know, a whole career. He just, he

got the ring at the end of the season and it up been a bit of a journey man around the place. His famous number 23 was retired by the club when he left to play baseball. But there was no rule saying it couldn't be unretired, even though he wore number 45 when he came back. And I was sort of, that was because of the, there must have been some weird strict rule about retiring numbers, but that wasn't the case. He just wanted to wear the numbery war playing baseball, which I don't know why, but I'm thinking maybe it's just to show that he wasn't embarrassed about his baseball years. He didn't want to hide from it. Maybe, I don't know. That seems like that's potentially just a sign of him going, I'm proud of

what I did in baseball. I suppose you got to also print and sell a whole new bunch of t-shirts. Yeah, as well. Yeah, he runs like, well, gonna get the 45 jersey now. Yeah, that's true. Some doubted, I don't whether or not he did, but some doubted that he could return to the Heitzing previously achieved with basketball. And I had loved, loved that person. Yeah, I have to go back to that article. Yeah, I got it wrong. All that time away from the game, but when he returned, he didn't quite hit

the same standards that he'd set. The bulls were knocked out in the playoffs by Shaquille and Niels, Orlando Magic, and that series early on Jordan changes number back to 23 apparently, which meant he got the team got fined for wearing the wrong number, but he just wanted to wear that number again. The magic then went on to lose the champion to champion chip decider to the Houston Rockets. I don't think the magic ever won one.

Is that right Dave? It doesn't matter. Check definitely has. But that was, was that for the Lakers? It doesn't matter. Anyway. He went on to lose, the magic went on to lose the magic went on to lose the championship decided to the Houston Rockets led by Hakeem Alajuan,

the number one draft pick at year. In the off season, Jordan was determined to get himself and the bulls back to the top, only trouble was he'd signed a deal to make a movie that off season. That movie, any guesses? Titanic. I was Space Jam. Oh. Is it any Titanic there?

I'm curious. In a way. He's in Watergirl once. Watergirl. You know, I thought you said Watergirl once? I didn't say that. No, that's what I thought. Dave did.

Are you said Watergirl once? No, I said Watergirl. And you said Titanic. Which? No, I said what? Which is basically the same movie. Same movie. Do you get David my voices mixed up? Look, to be honest, I thought you were singing water girl wants, and that made me assume you also said... He was singing water girl.

I started. Oh my god. You're doing it us confused. Who just said that? He was singing. I was going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go.

I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go.

I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go was that he said, oh, I can commit to the team, but I've signed a film deal. He's like, the team did okay on his return, but he wasn't quite hitting the peaks.

He's like, in this off season, I've got to take it up a notch. Our only problem is, I've got another little commitment, and that is to film a Hollywood movie. So this is what he did. He made it clear to the filmmakers that he needed a first class training facility so he could work on his game between shooting and they delivered. They made a pop-up state-of-the-art facility on the Warner Brothers Lot housing a full basketball court that was shipped in from Long Beach Arena. That poor local team doesn't have some of the players still needs this.

It is like, they realize they're on the back of a truck all of a son. According to an article on news.com, it says it also included an open living room with big screen TV, which was impressive back then. Now, anybody has you'll find a bloody big screen TV. Am I right?

The whole house is a living room. I have a living room, not a break. Huge. Yeah. Sound system, couches. I mean, some of these things are huge brags, really. I don't know how these are, so they are training facilities for him.

Like, it's a way to sit. I know what actor doesn't get a couch on his phone. Yeah. Now news.com, it's Phantom Note Worthy and also a living room table. Also. A table, you have a table. You have a toilet.

And also somewhere to nap. AKA, a bed. Ooh. Sorry Tim Allen just walked in. Not Tim. Sorry Tim Taylor. walked in. Not Tim. Sorry Tim Taylor. A full gymnasium was also there with free weights and workout machines. Free weights.

Yeah, he wasn't having to pay for the weights. He was having to pay for the weights. But he wanted a treadmill. You better believe he was putting in two dollars. There's little coin slot there. And a locker room with several showers. Why? It's just Michael Jordan.

I think I was Michael and Newman needed to take a shower at with several showers. Why? It's just Michael Jordan. I think I was Michael and Newman needed to take a shower at the same time. Yeah, it's seven showers one for each day of the week. This is my Monday shower, my Tuesday shower. How the other half live, huh? Oh, my God. How many showers do you have, Dave?

How many showers a day or how many different showers? How many different showers? Four. How many showers a day? Four. Why? Very good. But even a day? Four. Wow. Very good. Otherwise, I'd always like it dry. And jealous. That's what I was thinking. How many how many showers do you have? Depends if Dave lets me in or not. Staying on the door with a towel on his shoulder. Dave, please. I'm very stinky. I'm filthy.

I'm very stinky. There was also a putting green and a card table. And a card table a little. I think that, I mean like a full poker. Instead of the card table. The entire dome cost Warner Brothers $10,000 a week just to air condition. What the actual clock? Okay, he's a diva.

Just see the air goes 10 grand a week. That is. Did he request all those things or they're like, I'm gonna give him this and we'll give him this. Yeah, I'm not sure. He just wanted some way to train. That's all he asked for.

And they're like a card table. Yeah, okay. He's like, no, no, I just want like a basketball ring. No, I just remember he's in the same gambler as well. Yeah, big gambler. Probably, yeah, I don't know if he's a good gambler or not. Do you talk about his gambling, though? No.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he did come up, though. He would gamble with his baron's teammates. And wouldn't he, like, sometimes, like, stay out in Vegas till the middle of the night and then go to a game on two hours sleep and beat everyone, like, frustratingly good? That would be frustrating. Yeah, I did.

He definitely, definitely into a bit of gambling. According to Nathaniel Bellamy, Jr., who was Jordan's stand in for the movie, during the shooting period basketball games would be organized in lunch breaks with a bunch of NBA stars who would come into play Jordan, saying after a while, I just got used to seeing all the Hollywood stars and Warner Brothers executives at Jordan dome pick up games they called it Jordan dome. They're the court. Okay. So he would play against famous people that aren't. Yeah, it's absolutely. Yeah, just people would be coming through just other actors and stuff.

He was browsing and making a film drop spot. Apparently. Hello, I'm Peace Broslin. This Bros. is making a film drop spot. Apparently. Hello, I'm Peace Bros. Apparently Hollywood stars like. It's such a good impression. It wasn't it. The name's Bond, James Bond. Let's have a shoot some moves, Michael.

Michael. You're a Santa more like, like Bono or something. Oh, I'm pretty sure it pieces Irish, isn't it? I think Bono was also there to be fair. No, that would be good to be fair. I didn't, I'm not, I don't think every Irish person sounds the same. I think you particularly sounded like Bono was also there to be fair. No, that would be good to be fair. I didn't, I don't think every Irish person sounds the same. I think you particularly stand it like Bono. They all sound like Bono.

That's true. I've got one Irish accent and there's Bono. I don't know. Imagine, I can't. I imagine. My brain is not big enough to be out of it. Imagine having less than nine separate Irish dialect accents come on crazy yeah man um so apparently Hollywood stars his Bosnian is Irish I looked it up thank you apparently

apparently Hollywood stars like Mike at Mark Hamill and George Clooney would get there get down there a bit he said so many stars came by the Jordan Dome that you just can't name them all, Bellamy. Well, name a couple of them. He named two. He named two, that's not enough. No. I needed to get through six or seven before you did.

All right, stop the list, that's enough. But I mean, it's really helping Michael Jordan if he plays against Mark Hamill. Yeah. That's not really training. You're a sense Mark Hamill. Well, like Mark, he just doesn't seem like he's not in the same level as Shaq. He's a Jedi Knight. That's true. As far as I understand, it's one of their things is good, good basketball. That's true. Use the force to slam down. The movie

also featured other NBA players, including Charles Barkley, the mound of sound. Yes. Sean Bradley. What's his nickname? I'm gonna go in for him. Boo. Be Bradley. Boo Bradley. Patrick Ewing, Larry Johnson, and Mugsy Boggs. He's the really short one, isn't he? Yeah, they all have their talent stolen by the alien monsters. And Larry Bird also makes a cameo. Oh, this is one of the listeners who suggested the topic. Also, he mentioned talent stolen by the alien monsters. And Larry Bird also makes a cameo. Oh, this is one of the listeners who suggested the topic. Also, he mentioned in his little blurb for while it would make a good topic.

He said, asking him to talk about Larry Bird's antics onset. Oh. And I found, I found. Is it a bit of a prankster, is he? It's a bit cheeky, Larry. I found, yeah, you left the door open on Jordan Dome. Oh, I got to pay 12 grand that way to a conditioner. It's a similar sort of level.

I found the, I found from Bird's book, his autobiography. He talks, there's a few paragraphs about this particular thing that they wanted me to bring up. And this is from the book. The movie, the movie people really took care of us. They had this big room filled in the hotel filled with food drinks anything you wanted One cooler had beer and other had soda and other had sandwiches and Then there was this big is that all you want I think he's trying to pat his book out

sandwiches I could have a sandwich in a soda, no problem. So John's felt really good. Sometimes I had a beer with my sandwich. But there was always a sandwich and some kind of libation. I'm Larry Bird. You already been put in place.

That just in case you've joined us now, I'm Larry Bird talking all about some stuff that's happened to me. Anyway, back to the story. Really my boy. And then there was this big cooler marked, Michael only. You weren't supposed to touch that one because it was Michael Jordan's special stuff. They flew in just for him.

So one day Bill Moran, I were just sitting there. Name drop. So it's the best name drop to me. Yeah, totally. And I go over to Michael's cooler and I lift up the lid. Oh my god He's there was this girl there and her only job was to make sure everything was just right for Michael Jordan But you know there was a girl inside He's the top the lid. There was this girl there. I was like, what are you doing in there? She looked terrifying

I'm really cold. You know what? It's not clear if that that isn't what he means Her only job was to make sure everything was just right and Michael Jordan and she starts yelling at me from inside the cooler Larry you can't come in here No, I can't go in there. Larry you can't come in here. I said I said what are you talking about that's bull Everyone here is family So he's big in himself. I'll be talk pretty stupid one here is family. So he's big in himself. I'll be talk to Priest. She was getting all nervous and said, no, no, those are all things that Michael told me he wanted. And if you take something out of there, Michael won't be able to have it. And we just can't let

that happen. Bill Murray is laughing the whole time listening to this because whenever Michael walked into the room, he always went to one of the other coolers and pulled something out. He's just like the rest of us. All right. just Michael can go to all the coolers and Michael's cooler. You can't go to Michael's, that's the only rule. Michael's not limited to the Michael cooler, okay? Yes, that's obviously that's, you know, this is called Jordan Don't. Fuck, Larry, how do we make this clearer? I don't know you. But he said, but he said he held the ever open his own cooler. I mean, that's his progative, Larry.

What's in there? Any, anyhow, I waited until the girl left. Then I reached in and started grabbing stuff out of Michael's cooler and throwing out to the crew all over the set. I threw it everywhere, Gatorade bottles, some special drinky-like candy bars. She was so mad at me. Medicine for the room. A kidney.

Yeah, he doesn't need this. I mean, I'm gonna need this. For the rest of our stay, every time I went by that cooler, I took something out. That is the Larry Bird story. Those are the Larry Bird antics. What I love about that is- That is the Larry Bird story. Those are the Larry Bird antics. What I love about that is...

You know how a lot of celebrity, especially if they're not from a riding background, we'll get a ghost rider? It's clear he did not. That is terribly written. Also, Polly Red by Matt. Terribly written, Polly Red, badly recounted. To file a word. Enjoyed that along.

It's 2 out of 5. I found it so fun as well. And the fact that it was mentioned in this very short thing, you should do an episode about Michael Jordan, Space Jam, you can tell about this and how, and he said, he said, how Larry Bird stole Michael Jordan's sandwiches. So there may be a more entertainingly written version of that story. I don't know that there is. How do they know how they could be?

It was a good amount of fun, I loved it. No, that's an episode highlight, I'm glad that's really funny. I read it and I'm like, do I put this in? It is fun. It does show a different side of Larry. You made the right call. You know? What do you think of Larry. You made the right call. You know? What do you think of Larry Bird differently now? I do.

I just don't like that kind of disregard for rules. Yeah. Because I would be that woman trying to just keep the piece and keep things rolling and then there's one little turd, fucking everything. Yeah. And then who gets in trouble when Michael needs something that's in his cooler and it's not there? Who gets in trouble when Michael needs something that's in his cooler?

It's not that. Who gets in trouble? It's not Larry Bird. It's not Larry Bird, is it? Also Larry, you're also a big star. Very rich man. There are many other coolers. You've said there's everything you need. Yes, you literally said there's everything you need.

Fear, soda, sandwiches. It's a big three, baby. What do you need? Just ask. If there's something you want, just ask. I'll get it for you. I'm sure there's someone here at this Hollywood studio that can get you Larry Bird doing a Camille on the movie.

Also, how weird for the people on set, like Larry Bird hands you a sandwich. You're like, oh, thanks so much, you started eating, and he's like, yeah, that's Michael Jordan. And she's like, oh my God, I'm gonna get fired. Now, it's fun, this is fun. We haven't fun, she's so mad. I'm putting this in my book. I always gonna get fired. Now it's fun. This is fun. I'm not fun, she's so mad. I'm putting this in my book.

I always find that weird. Hold on, just let me write down this idea for my book, which I'll write in a few years. It's inevitable that I'll write a book. I always find it weird when people think it's really funny when someone's mad at you. Yeah. That's strange to me.

Like, oh man, she's so pissed off. You're really pissed off. Like, yeah, just pissed off because you're acting inconsiderately and and yeah that is weird it's also like you know when people write a book and a bit of time is gone by and it's a memory they normally they juice it up a little bit imagine what the reality of the story was it was like a one minute thing she said don't go in there he went no worries miss yeah and then she left thinking nothing would go wrong. And he got a taste for this.

He's sweating bullets. I've got to impress Pilmarie. He's laughing, Bill's like snoozing over the collar. Like, he's just in the room. Pilmarie was laughing his head off. Pilmarie said, oh, the funniest person he's ever met in his life. He said, I should have been in Ghostbusters.

He said, fuck down, Acquard. Apparently, we'll move on a go. Apparently the Michael Jordan work ethic transferred over to acting as well. According to Bellamy, I'm working this guy, Bellamy, who no one's ever heard of a bit, because he was just quite a bit in this article. And he had some real insights.

According to Bellamy, Mark was great on set and he was always prepared to work. Acting wise, he got incrementally better as the shoot went along. So little backhander. And also just saying he improved sort of implies that he wasn't great at the start. Well, if you watch the film, he's not great in it. he's also fine right. I think the real break out performer there is Daffy. Yeah. Yeah. Bugs is always a real star obviously. Obviously. A lot of natural talent. LOLA bunny. That's the first appearance in anything. She was created for the movie LOLA. She was great. LOLA was great. Girl power, am I right? Oh you are so right. An incrementally is not enough.

Dave, remind me to tell you a joke about girl power later off mic because it's not appropriate for on mic. Is it appropriate for you to help? Well, do. I bet it's going to be a Larry Bird, it's anecdote. It's going to be a real repeat anyway. Anyway, it's that the Sparsky girls weren't you know, with these coolers. If you don't know Space Jam, I know you two sound like you definitely do, but some people listening at home might not.

Here's a brief synopsis from Rotten Tomatoes. Basketball superstar Michael Jordan and cartoon favorite favorite bugs bunny team up with other basketball grades and Looney Tunes characters in this combination animated slash live action feature. Jordan must help the Looney Tunes gang with a basketball game against a group of outer space creatures, the monsters, whose plan, if they win, is to kidnap the Looney Tunes and take them to the failing Intergalactic Amusement Park as the latest attraction. Oh, I forgot what that was.

Yeah, that's what the game was. So if they lost the Looney Tunes, we'd have to go up to Moron Mountain. And they just played one game against them? One game. Why did the Looney Tunes agree to it? I can't remember. So they kidnapped someone or something? Yeah, it's what.

Why do they agree to those terms? All't remember. So like kidnapped someone or something? Yeah, it's what. Why do they agree to those terms? All right, let's just look for one. Let's just look for one. Yeah, that's maybe just one. There's often stupid terms in those movies. How do you think you'd go best of three games? Yeah, just in case.

It does happen in movies. I've just made me think of the time it happens in the Tenacious D movie. When they make a deal where it's like, and the devil, and you can take, you can take Kyle. There's a jack black song, you can take Kyle as your sex slave. And Kyle's like, what? And Jack black's like, it's the only way.

That's why it's very, very funny. It's the only way. That is kind of what these movies always like. Somehow they make it. It's the only way. That is kind of what these movies always like. Somehow they make it so it's the only way. It's like, there's definitely other opportunities. Other ways we can handle this. No, we have to play a basketball game to save you from having to go to Moron Mountain.

And it doesn't go. Is there anything else for a few years ago again? I don't think it's for about 80 minutes or something. Very short. Kids movie. Yeah, I guess that's probably not normal. Maybe not. Maybe not.

He's about right for a kid. Yes, pretty. I mean, I get bored after all, anyway. I mean, the premises. We've been going for, you know, over an hour and I'm getting itchy feet. What do you want to get married? Is that what itchy feet? No, it's cold feet not wanting to get married itchy feats wanting to move cold feats not wanting to get married. Oh, is a shimbichi feet was wanting to get married Yes, but I want to get married

Because you want to get to the dance floor correct. Yep, I want a buggy And that's the only way to get to a dance floor So get married. Yeah, I won't let single or unmarried people dance. That's not a place for them. It's footloose all over again. It's inappropriate. Yeah. It goes for 88 minutes.

88 minutes. Dave, can you look this up? The movie's original promotional website can still be found online. Yes, and it's still the same. I've been on it. Not that long ago. It's all exactly the same.

And it is such a cool, yeah, I'll show it to you. It's all exactly as it was it is such a cool... Yeah, I showed you. It's all exactly as it was in 996. Oh, fuck yeah. It's like, you remember, oh, the first time I went on the internet, stuff I could do that. Yeah. It's like a real cool time capsule. That's awesome. And I actually...

What's the website? OurSpaceDamn.com, which now goes to WarnerRothers.com and it's been archive, but it's exactly the same, yeah. No, I got the following information about the film from the website. The movie, which is like handy information, the movie incorporated live action along with CGI 2D and 3D animation.

Animation producer Ron Tipeh explained, everyone knows the Looney tunes, but we wanted space jam audiences to see the Looney tunes as they'd never seen them before. There are animated effects in this movie that have never, ever been attempted on screen in previous movies. We're combining two and three dimensional animation with CGI. So far back that they had to put in brackets, computer-generated imagery. Oh, it's so good, yes. In a digital setting, all of which is tech talk for saying the look, the effects,

and the blending of the real and the fans for a truly state of the art. Hell yeah. I love it. I love it. I love it when creatives big themselves up. State of the art. While animation was responding to the challenge of getting the animation on screen, director Joe Pitca was working on the live-action portion of the film. Stage 22 at Warner Brothers was converted by a sin sight into a huge or

sin sight into a huge green screen set. There, against Wallsmarked with a graphic grid to help pinpoint future character positions, Jordan played basketball, both of these Luni tunes, team mates, and against the animated alien invaders, the monsters. So he just played basketball by himself, basically didn't he? Yeah, I've seen footage of it, it looks cool. He's not exactly playing by himself. There are people in green suits, with only their eyes showing as well, so that they could

tell where the other characters would end up being. Two thirds of the 60 day production schedule took place on this stage. During which time Jordan, Bill Murray and Wayne Knight were the only live actors on the set. Wayne Knight being Newman. They've mentioned, he's also plays Newman in Seinfeld, the postman and Jerry's nemesis.

He's also his in Jurassic Park. Oh, he's two, yes. And he's funny. I was just thinking about Jurassic Park because I was thinking about how, what you did Jurassic Park come out? Nice for me. That's pretty similar.

Well, because the dinosaurs in that are so amazing still, I watched it recently, that I can only imagine watching it back then, it would have blown your fucking mind. I think it was the highest-grossing film of all time. Because it's still like, but they're even better than recent films I've seen. Yeah, because I think a lot of it was real, I wasn't CGI. I think CGI at the time would have dated, but because it was big anime.

They're not as awesome. Yeah, they used real dinosaurs. I mean, they used physical dinosaurs. And they used physical. Right. Whatever you call it. I think a lot of the stuff was real. You could touch it stuff. What do you call that?

Real effects. Whatever that's called. Puppets. Puppets. That's it. Muppets. Kermit the Frog played the T-Rex. Wow, he's best role yet.

In order to keep the ball in motion and orient the stars, eye contact and responses, the Lini tunes tunes and monster's positions were played by actual actors Close from head to toe and green suits rendering them invisible when the film was composited Cool stuff and I'll pay it off Because it was a big hit it wasn't really expected to be but it was a big surprise box office hit taking in around 230 million dollars from an $80 million budget. Max. Here are some fun facts about the movie from the IMDB trivia page. Great, love it.

I love those fun facts on IMDB. Some of them are very dull. Yeah. You're like, okay. I try to pluck out ones that weren't dull. Thank you. Good choice. The concept for the movie originated from a series of highly popular nightcads where Bugs

Bunny and Michael Jordan faced off against Marvin the Martian and his alien henchmen in basketball. I did not know that. I never saw those. It's fired by a nightcad which is. They made a film out of it. Yeah, that was super popular I guess and they were like, oh, what's going on with this? Next fact, Noel Blank, Mel Blank son, who's, you know, the man of a thousand voices, the real one. Wow. One of them, the man of a thousand noises. Pardon me. Please.

Dave, that is. Sounds what you sounds, noises. No, I think it's a noise. Noise the sounds funny. It does. I don't make sounds. I make noises. Anyone? So Noel Blank, it was originally booked to provide all of the regular Warner Brothers male cartoon character voices, but he and Warner Brothers couldn't agree on a contract. So the studio replaced blank with four other people to do the 12 male voices instead of blank doing more obviously. This included doing the Bugs Bunny in Elmafard was Billy West. I didn't realize this,

who is the voice of Fry. If you try, I might have a bunch of, I think he did run in Stempe and heaps of other stuff, but that was really cool. So yeah, I guess he does it so well because I just didn't realize that so many different people have played Bugs. I thought it was just a small handful.

And he doesn't at all sound like, his fries kind of like Billy West's voice. Slightly modified, I guess. But yeah, I'd have to go back and watch it again, but I don't remember thinking it sounded off at all to me. So obviously he did a good job, which is a high praise for a guy whose profession is voice acting. Yeah, he got incrementally better as the movie comes on.

Michael Jordan, here's another fact from the IMDB page. Michael Jordan actually wore his North Carolina College basketball shorts under his Chicago pools uniform every game as a good luck charm. Did you know that? He bounces. Did you know that? You bought this? Yes, it is. Look, you got me. In disbelief, but yes, it is true.

She's not happy with that. Dave, would you call that a face of disbelief? I would call it disdain. And the last scene shows Michael Jordan returning to the NBA wearing the number 45 jersey, which obviously Little bits of the movie were out from From real life. He played baseball and he was sort of they had a lot of fun with him being a batling baseball player In the movie did you guys enjoy the movie back in the day? Yeah, I haven't watched it recently

I'd like to rewatch it. Yeah, as a kid, my friend had the toys of the monsters, and you know, I would put it there. It was really fun. A lot of big merchandising. Yeah. There has been a talk for a long time about a sequel. There was actually a sequel that was along way down, getting made, but they couldn't get Jordan to sign on. And it went through all these script changes.

And I, after quite a while, it finally came out, starring Brendan Fraser and called Looney Tunes back in action. Oh! Are you serious? That started to life out as Space Jam too. So we'll obviously be doing that in phrasing the bar. Frazing the bar.

Is that a real, that's a real film? That is a real film. Never heard of it. Yeah, was not a film. So you know, I'll tune into our podcast, phrasing the bar. Frazing the bar, wow. That's more about it. When, it was not a tune into our podcast phrasing the bar raising the bar. Wow, wow about it When you were talking about that a couple of weeks ago

I originally thought you were starting a phrasia themed podcast Maybe that's the off-shoots season two. Yeah You run out of a piece 11 films. He's been we go through the 11 seasons or whatever a phrasia And then we go back to cheers What have we got else all the info? You could look at that one guys. I'm happy not to be invited. Oh well.

That's interesting. That makes the next question moot. But Dave would you like to be involved? Brand of Frazier, yes. Frazier, no thank you. By the time the film was released at Cinemas, the following NBA season had been completed already, and Jordan had just won the MVP award again,

and he led the Bulls to a record breaking season. So remember the end of the last season, he didn't quite reach the hearts. It was quite, yeah. Had this off-season film Space Jam, by the time all the post-production would be done and it had been released. The NBA season had gone through and he was back to these best.

And did the team win the championship? The team won 72 out of 82 games for the regular season, which was a new record, which was an all-time record then until just a couple years ago when the Golden Satwara broke it in 2016 by one game. So it's still the second highest. Go on State Warriors didn't go on to win the championship that year, but the Bulls did. So that was his fourth championship and the Bulls fourth championship as well.

Jordan also earned his eighth scoring title at season became the 10th NBA player to score 25,000 career points in the second fastest amount of time after Wilt the still. And he'd had 18 months off. Yeah, that's right. What is it, per game, not time? It might be per game, yeah. Didn't he have a family as well?

He did have a family, yeah. They're in space, yeah. That's what I thought. Like bugs, bunnies in their house. Yes, that's not his kids. Is that name? It's not his kids. Really? Actors playing as family, yep.

But also, I feel so robbed. Where does he find the time? How does he do it? And I just, yeah, it's amazing. He's a right as the upside. I don't want to make assumptions, but I would assume he'd be an absent dad. No, he's so busy.

What Matt failed to mention was that living room that they shipped in. They also shipped in his family. Oh, that's okay then that living room that they shipped in they also shipped in his family. Oh, that's okay Then the basketball court they shipped in was where his kids played Local basketball and now it was a game. They were playing in when they Took it up off the off the ground and when George picture like a really big digger Well, he couldn't make it and taking out the land underneath the

He couldn't make it to the game to he brought the game to here. Yeah and that's good parent. That's good parenting. Sorry Michael. For assuming you were an absent dad. When you were just busy playing basketball and filming Hollywood films. Yeah. So in the championship guy sees a championship playoffs they beat the Seattle supersonic tying it in with

Frazier his hometown Frazier Crans. Maybe I hear the loser calling to salad and scrambled eggs. Oh my. Oh my. Hey, assume that's the theme song for the Supersonics a little bit. Yeah, maybe I feel a bit confused. Well, maybe. But I got you.

Ha. I'm saying nearly every word wrong. Scramble eggs there, mascot. I don't know what to do with a tazalad as grand bulls. Seattle Super Scramble eggs. According to notable biographies.com, few who watched will ever forget how Jordan sank to his knees, head bent over the winning ball in a moment of bittersweet victory and

deep sadness. The game had been played on Father's Day, three years after his father's murder. The championship game. Yeah. Wow. So it's just so much going on. Yeah. Now not to breeze over too much, but I'm going to breeze over it. Jordan and the Bulls

would go on to win the following two titles as well, bringing their total of six championship titles up from zero when he arrived in the late 80s. Jordan won the finals MVP award for the sixth time also. In the 1997 playoffs, one of the, they went on to win the championship in. One game is now known as the flu game. Jordan heard of this, but he's quite famous in game five. Jordan came down with a mystery illness but forged on anyway and ended up dragging the bulls over the line with 38 points. Wow. I've seen footage of it. Have you watched the footage of it? Yeah, so he nearly passed out a few times. He's like on the side in like the halftime breaks

with a tail every set practically like vomiting and then he goes on there and like it's the top score of the game. Just amazing. How did he do that? So it's not as a flu game apparently, but there's also a theory that it was food poisoning on purpose. Tim Grover, Michael's personal trainer at the time, recounted that he was, this is all quote from Grover. Yes, he was 100% poison for the flu game. Everyone called it the flu game, but we sat there and we knew, we were in the room. We were in Park City,

Utah, up in a hotel. Room service stopped at nine o'clock and he got hungry. And we really couldn't find any other place to eat, so he ordered. I said, hey, the only thing I could find is a pizza place. He said, all right, order pizza. Another good story. I think Larry Boyard helped him write it. Hahaha. A natural born storyteller. Goes for a little Larry bird. We had been there for a while,

so everyone knows what hotel, everyone can't have knew where we were staying. So we ordered a pizza. They came to deliver it. Five guys came to deliver the pizza, which is funny. They had to take two cars. I said, I got a bad feeling about this. Out of everyone in the room, he was the only one who ate it, no one else. Then at two o'clock in the morning, I get a call to my room. I come to the room. He's called up in the fetal position. Immediately,

I said, it's food poisoning. Guarante guaranteed, not the flu. So you're in the... It's another flu game, the poo game. Yeah. I mean, either way, whatever it was, he was crook as... And that backfired on them as well. They're like, ha, we got him. Ah, fuck. The five pizza boys, they still, they had him in another victim. And it's just weird. That's true, five people.

Is your pizza. Why are true. Five. Is it? Why are there? Yeah, why? Tip is all. If it, I mean, it's possible that they're just heard it was for Jordan, and they're like, we have to be there. Surely that's what happened. That's what happened. If you went to go poison him, why would like make it weeder? Yeah, like you'd go with one of you and you'd wear a balaclava. Five,-year-old job, and they're all like, make sure on the Michael, each of this. Yeah, make sure he eats it all.

It's a really hard conspiracy. They just want to see the superset. Yeah, that feels more accurate to me, but who knows. I mean, you're a pizza delivery driver. How many times do you get to deliver to Michael Jordan? Yeah. Probably two or three times. It's probably twice in a lifetime, three in a lifetime.

It's two. Yeah, it's two and a half. They say it's two and a lifetime. It's once on your way up. Yeah, once you get that second call and you know, it's time to start thinking about hanging up the delivery driver boots. Jordan retired again in 1999, though he made he did make one final comeback to play for the Washington Wizards for a couple of seasons. He had an ownership stake in the team, despite getting on in age, I think it was like 38. He sold his stake so he could come back and play

for the team. And he helped bring the seller to our team up to a competitive level before succumbing to injury, but he did improve the team even in his sort of... Right, so he was still good. Yeah, still like without been dominating like he did, he was still like a very, very good player. It's easy to see why Jordan is still seen or is seen as one of the greatest of all time by many, because you know, it's so much individual and team success. The other name that people have been debating a lot lately, you're familiar with LeBron James. It sounds like Wilk the Stilt should be

in this conversation. Why have people not talking about the Stilt? Yeah, it's like he's not, man. It's like people can't outside their lifetime. Like, it's like they don't count, but. Well, Kareem Abdul, he's called more points than anyone else. So I feel like they should be in the conversation, but maybe there's reason for that, maybe not, I'm not sure.

But anyway, I found this article with an expert in debating who talked about it. I'll tell you about that in a second. But the other thing about LeBron James is he's the one that's rumored to be in the sequel for Space Jam. It's long been in talks and that's. He's also acting credits already.

Yeah, so it sounds like that helped him when he was in the Amy. Train wreck. The Train wreck movie. Apparently it was very funny in that. So that made that brought the conversation up again. But anyway, Sports Illustrated enlisted the director of debate from the University of Kansas, Dr. Scott Harris

to cast his eyes over the arguments. And he seemed a little split. He liked LeBron if it was a one-on-one game. He just thought at their peak, LeBron would win one-on-one. But he suggested MJ perhaps has a bigger heart and will to win, saying, which the flu game sort of is a pretty good illustration app. This is a quote from the doctor.

He said, if I were picking a team, if I were picking one of them to win a do-a-die game against an alien space invaders for the future of the planet, I'm probably picking Michael Jordan. Yeah, wow. Is he trying to pitch his own space fan plot? He's, I think he was using hyperbole to say, if it was his life on the line, he'd pick Jordan. No pressure. I'm just using the very fun space jam reference there. That's the end of the report. I do have some fun facts. If you reckon we have time.

I think we do. No, we reckon. I do have some fun facts if you reckon we have time. I think we do. I reckon. For fun facts. I found this a little mystical on Huffington Post, which with a few great fun facts that I had had no idea about, like this one. Michael Jordan played a cartoon superhero in a short-lived series with Wayne Gretzky and Bo Jackson. It's called Pro Stars and it lasted for two seasons in the early 90s. That sounds amazing. It featured the three sports stars living together in a gym and saving the world from villains. Michael Jordan was the leader and brainy one of the group, often explaining long scientific reasonings for plans. They didn't voice their own characters but that was just based on them.

Oh, they didn't. Oh, they didn't even voice the character. That's so good. I kind of recovered. Yeah. He's another fun fact. Michael Jordan donated his first year salary with the Washington Wizards, which is about a million dollars, so the recovery effort for the victim's families of 9-11. Oh.

Which happened, you know, just before he started with him. A bit of fun. Growing up, his nickname was Magic Jordan, named after Magic Johnson. All right, then he even had number plates on his car. Magic. Early time, Magic Jordan. But then apparently they married in America. Apparently they didn't get on very well for a while. For different reasons, but eventually it became friends when they talked in America. Apparently they didn't get on very well for a while for different reasons, but eventually

it became friends when they talked it out. I hear I hear buddy cop film. Magic and magic. Kid. This might not be fun, but this is an amazing stat. Starting in November 1990, Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls never lost three games in a row. Wow.

Play that many games in a year, never like that, that must be some sort of a record, right? That seems so it's nine. Oh, well, you mean you did take that season off, but still that is wild. Yeah. And I think this I hadn't heard, his best friend is this limo driver called George George Cola. Um, I'm coca-cola.

Apparently when he first landed at Chicago Airport in 984, the bulls forgot to send anyone to pick him up. And a limo driver named George Cola took pity on him and offered to help. Cola was a young man as well and the two hit it off despite an initial confusion. Cola recounted, I was excited because I knew who he was and I thought holy smokes it's Larry Jordan now let this guy write a book that one line is already better than fucking bird

holy smokes it's Larry John when I I was like, ah, close enough, gets in the back. It's a fairly said to him. He said, when he saw him, I said, Larry Jordan. Oh, Larry was Michael's brother. Okay, so it wasn't that wild, but anyway. Colour only charged John $25 and offered him to show him around the city to help him find a beer. A couple of weeks later, Jordan called him to hang out

and they developed a friendship and they're best friends apparently. That is so lovely. That's the best. Maybe that's a nice one to finish off. This other one I thought was pretty good was the Miami Heat also retired number 23 out of respect for him.

You know, he never played there, yeah. The first... That was... And that's the first jersey that Miami Heat ever retired. Look, we didn't have enough good players to retire as a team. They're a pretty new team, I guess, but yeah, it's an interesting... I guess it's almost like a... It feels almost like a publicity stunt.

That's so good. The Sarah Manie take... Man, I'm talking weird again. I say this nearly every episode lately, and it's starting to feel like I just don't talk very well. You've been fine up until that point. The Sarah Mani took place on April 11, 2003, before a game between the Washington Wizards and the Heat.

No one will ever wear number 23 for the Miami Heat. You're the best, Heat, Pat Riley said to Jordan. Riley had coached against Jordan many times, many times when he still played with the Chicago Bulls and the Wizards won that game. You're the best and all the players are like, what about us? What about the place you play for?

We're right. Yeah, and they're like, he's like, I don't even know your names. I don't care to know. I love you, Michael. It didn't feel like that. I was him going, maybe this is the way I can meet Michael Jordan How can I just want him to talk to me? I want to win over Michael

That is the end of the fun facts just you didn't say but I assume you thought all of those were fun That was a cool topic. Yeah, good one. It was a roller coaster Yeah, and now he's obviously a super successful business person. Yes. So he's super rich. And yeah, he's doing a lot of good stuff. He had a lot of kids. Did any of them ever show tennis?

Yeah, I think he's, maybe his eldest son went to play college ball. And I think he got to a pretty decent level, but obviously living in in the shadow is hard but I think it was a handy, handy player. Hmm, handy. Handy? He was a handy player. Great hand skills which is important in basketball. Great handsy eye coordination. I could stuff right, that was good.

That's what I wanted to hear. That was, it was good fun. The old Michael Jordan. Now, at the end of our reports, we've got a segment that's come up over the last month or so, where we talk about a quote, a fact or a question. That's right. And this segment is called fact, quote, or question. Great.

And these come from Patreon supporters. And if you'd like to become one of those and support the show, help us keep growing. You can go to patreon.com slash dogoonpod and you get stuff in exchange, including two possible bonus episodes that we put out every month, so pretty cool. And this week's fact-quadal question comes from

listener and patron supporter, Odie Matthews, who's been a long-term supporter of the show. Thank you so much, Odie. He's name comes up and I think, what a cracker. What a cracker, what a bloody, which means there's not a nasty in America, but... I mean, what a cracking name. What a hit.

That's a cracker. It's a big gap in meaning between America and the show. Cracker is such a positive here. Nothing to do with the roast over here, I'm sorry. So, Odie also gets to give himself a title. And this is, I don't think it's hard with it. So in the past, I've had things like junior vice in turn of Sydney Seanberg, junior vice president of cannelloni production, senora, presidenta of Togorbell. And this is what Ode Matthews reply when I said,

and you can also give yourself a title he goes, I'll go with chips and salsa because that's currently what I'm eating. So his title is chips and salsa. I love it. I'm even like president of the chips and salsa. Emma and I immediately made me wanna eat chips and salsa. No, but I also love that like one track mind.

Like I can't think of anything else because I've distracted by chips and salsa. I'm enjoying these chips and salsa. No, but I also love that like one track mind, like I can't think of anything else because I've distracted by chips and salsa. I'm enjoying these chips and salsa. Fair enough, good for you, chips and salsa are delicious. Good marketing. Um, anyway, so he's chosen to give us a quote, and this is a quote from already himself, which is a loophole someone found a few weeks ago.

So this is what I already said. Quart. I showed my girlfriend, Minna Gennon, you guys, and now she absolutely loves the show. It makes me so happy that we can talk about them together now. And she especially likes Jess's laugh. We have both massive fans and love you guys. That's the quote. I already...

That's a beautiful quote. I'm going to get that printed on a tea towel and sell it at markets. And I'm going to get it tattooed on your back. On my own. On your back. Okay. In a tea towel form. Oh, yeah. Okay. Now I'm back on board. Yes. That's really sweet. Thanks so much, Odie. Oh, thanks already. Can you can be in smygo friend to listen? That would be really good Nah, she doesn't support us And we also another thing we do Matt night. I'm sure that she's real. Yeah We miss that paid actress one time. That's true very easy. Why did actress? She came up. She's giving me hey babe. And why did actress? She came up and she gave me,

hey babe, so it's gonna be my sergeants. And I'm like, yeah, you can see that we're in love. Oh, I didn't happen at all. No, that's right. We could not see that you were in love. No, it was quite frosty. Oh, it was, yeah. She kept calling him Steve, but he was going,

this dope. It's babe, babe. Call me babe. She's like, you're gonna have to pay me more. She kept calling him Steve, but he was going, DUDE! It's Babe! Babe! Call me Babe! She's like, you're gonna have to pay me more. And then you like fake laughs, so we would be throwing off. She's like, I didn't realize how tough this would be. But Matt and I were like writing notes to each other,

just like, this is fucking weird. It's a weird get-ins-out of here. It's quick, pretend your phone is ringing. Oh, it's emergency! Hey, it's my dad mom. You're in the hospital, okay. Quick. Oh no, it's my fake boyfriend.

He's dead. Got a gun. Got to go to his cremation or factory. Quick. Matt has to come too, bye. Yeah. I thought there were all real things. Tell him that I've made up.

I said fake boyfriend. That's a confusing part. I thought that was a cool nickname. Yeah, I call him fake. Fakey. It's pronounced babe. Another thing we'd like to do at the end of the episode is Dave is another Patreon related thing. I was trying to throw it a day to explain it, but please

Jess could you explain this bit at the end? We thank some of the Patreon supporters. So syncs yet and we do it. Yeah what? Yeah what? I mean I think it's better when I fumble it. Okay fine you go for it then. Um, I'm back to Jess. So we're going to shout out a few names and Jess comes up with a little game for us to play, which is not really a game. Basketball nickname. All right, basketball. Okay, for example,

like, uh, uh, the round of sound. Round. Well, the still. Well, the still. Round. Well, the still.

So good. A pound of rebound. Carle the male man alone Because he always delivers that's fantastic. So good. You're the best sports nickname though is nobody What's just happened Sorry, is that serious? Yeah It's nobody. Silence. Johnny Eels.

Johnny Eels nickname. Johnny Eels nickname is nobody. No body because nobody's perfect. Oh, very good. That is very good. Am I nailed it? I can't Larry Bertil. We were either.

I'm not sure it's Larry. All right, let's thank some people. Are you Googling that now? No. I'm not. I'm about that. I'm gonna show you some to Larry. All right, let's thank some people. Are you Googleing that now? I'm Googleing some sweet basketball player Nicknames. Nice.

I think I've looked up Larry Bird's nicknames and they were, they were a bit silly. Let me find them. Larry Legend. Oh, lame. Also, the basketball Jesus, someone's written. Why? For Larry Bird, the Hick from French League. Yeah, that's the Adonisour.

The Hick from French League, because that's, I think, is a six-terrain. Town in Orange County, Indiana. French League. Yeah. That's terrible. Also, the Great White Hope. Ooh.

Um, okay. I like the Great White Shark. Yeah, that's much. Greg. Greg was taken, so that I like the great white shark. Yeah, that's much. Greg was taken so that's a change to something else. So let's thank some supporters. I'd love to thank cracking name. They're always cracking names from Ballarat in Australia, which is where the episode from not too long ago was set about the Eureka stockade.

And my grandparents lived. Sandy tie. Sandy tie. I mean, I've got a list of basketball nicknames, so do we want to make one out one? No, I don't. I'm already good. Anything good to stand out there? Dr. Duncanstein.

Oh, yeah. Dr. Duncanstein. That's Delgrey's name, per. Like that. Dr. Duncanstein. Sandy, Dr. Duncanstein tie. Love it. Dr. Duncan's thing. Sandy, Dr. Duncan's thing. Ty. Love it. Yes. Dr. Duncan's thing. Is Dr. J. Yeah. Dr. J. Who's, who's, who's Dr. J. Dr.

Sir, I'm stuck. Dr. Julius Irving. I can't get out of this. Dr. Julius Irving the second. He's answering you. I can't. Dr. No, Dr. J. Oh, thank God. Dr. Dr.

Dr. J. So good. Yeah, I think they used to do better nicknames. Yeah. And so what's that? So can you give me sandies again? Dr.

Duncan steam. That is very good. Dr. Duncan Steen. That is very good. Or Dr. Duncan Stein. I guess like Frankenstein. That makes more sense. Duncan Stein, fuck. Yeah, it's good stuff. And I'd also like to thank from Bristol.

No, we're coming for you, baby! Dave, can you look up and see if that's close at all to any of our live shows? That is, we're gonna do you okay? Definitely close at all to any of our live shows? That is. We're going to do you, Kay. Definitely close to our Manchester surf show. No, Bristol, Winston, and November 14th at the improv theatre. I'd love to thank Mr. Thomas Keywood. Oh, that's good.

There's a key. Like, there's a key, pun, surely. Yeah, the lock. He's a lock. And like, but he's in the key. Like a sure thing. I was in the care the basketball game basketball key. Yeah, okay I'm gonna say unless you time out. I'm just gonna say the first thing that comes out of my head So you want to say something smart do so? Otherwise, I'm gonna go where you want you to embarrass yourself. Okay, I'm gonna say

Okay Okay, I'm gonna say okay. Okay, I'm just gonna... Is it gonna... Is it gonna hot in here? So, it's gonna... That's just gonna be try. Okay, let's see. First thing that comes to mind, basketball. All right, here we go. And then, dunks already been taken. That's brought out nearly everything I've got. Okay. Thomas slam,

minute, slam, slam, seno. Slam seno. That's good. I seno. Slam seno. That's good. I like that. Slam seno is good. What does that mean? Nothing.

I'm a real empty head. Are you alright? I don't feel very good. Okay. If someone poised on my pizza, have five guys delivered me a pizza lately? I worry about you. Thanks, stamp seno.

I want a great nickname. Slam seno. Thomas, I'm so sorry. If you come to Bristol, I'll have something better for you by then. Can I please thank some people also? Yeah, that'd be really nice. I would like to thank from Nightcliff in the Northern Territory. Oh, wow. What a great 10x amp.

In Australia. Madeline Davies Kildia. Oh, wow. I mean, the assassin. Oh, yeah. Kildia. Oh, wow. I mean the assassin. Oh, yeah. Kildia. Bang, yeah, great. Good one. MDK, the assassin. MDK. Yeah, that sounds sick.

That's awesome. Way better than one on Wikipedia here listed as Elliot Perry. They're socks in brackets because you always worry socks to his knees. God, they're creative. I love when they have to explain it. Yeah, it's so good. And I'd also like to thank from New York City in New York in the United States of America, Jake Sullivan.

Oh, yeah, instantly I think the snake, but. Oh, that's good. Get that a bit. Also, like I just saw one of my favorite childhood plays for the science of this guy called Stewie Lo and his nickname, because he had real big hands, with buckets, it hands like buckets. No, he's good.

And buckets also works for basketball. Do you think that could work? Buckets. Yeah, it's Jake Bucket Sullivan. Jake Bucket Sullivan, that sounds good. That's great. Classic. Jake Bucket Sullivan.

Jake the snake Bucket Sullivan. Bucket of snakes. Stop. No, buckets of snakes. That's not's not a day deserved to be treated better I'd like to I'll thank a couple of people now if I could I would like to thank his petron username is Jmfk But then our full name is Jennifer Kidney Kidney Jennifer kidney. I mean Jmfk is a pretty smart. Oh, do you think it's Jennifer mother fucking kidney? Jennifer, Kittney. Jennifer Kittney.

I mean, JMFK is a pretty swat- Oh, do you think it's Jennifer Motherfuckin Kittney? JMFK. Is that what Jirogga that swat- Probably. Or really, how so. And I love it. And obviously, you could call her JMFK in the commentary.

And everyone would know it's a rude name, but you could say that on TV. It's Jennifer Motherfucking Kidna! Yeah, that is good. Hell yeah. And she's from Basilden in Great Britain or Basilden. That sounds better. Basilden.

That sounds more British. Basilden. But knowing how the Brits pronounce their own words, it's probably, Basilden, or something like, Basilden. That be weird, silent letters in there. It's probably, Bissill did, awesome, like, Bissill, toh. That'd be weird, Silent, letters in there. Yeah.

Probably not in this one, but in other examples. Not that far out of London, so really hoping to see you at El London show on a planet. J-Mother fucking K. Yeah. J-Mother fucking K. There you go. And finally, I think,

from right here in Brunswick, East of Victoria, Scott, what can... Oh, that isunswick East to Victoria, Scott Watkins. Oh, that is a, that's got a real thrill to it. Like ball. Scott, light ball Watkins. Yeah. Scotty Watkins.

He's a smart player. Smart player on the corner. He's smart player. He's clever. He lights up the court. Yes. These are all good. Scotty Watkins, thank you so much, Light Ball.

I reckon if you put them together, those six players, they would be the best dream team they've ever put together. Yeah, I reckon. Do you think we could get them all in the same place same time? Yeah. Yeah. It's an international team.

Easy. Everybody? Everyone meeting London on November 18. Okay. And then we'll figure it out from there. Yeah. And we'll... Scott, you can probably stay here. We'll come back here anyway.

Who are they taking on, do you think? Clubbed reddus? Yeah. The Avengers. The Avengers? The Avengers, I'll block them. The Avengers of basketball. He brackets the club troubles.

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is the main thing to really nailed it on every platform. Yeah, good for us. We buddy did it. So it might space we never got in there. And if you are in England or Scotland or if you have the ability to get to any of those places I know we've had people in the past say that if we come to there they'll come fly over from other places in Europe Which would be very exciting. I would be so amazing. And we're also going to be doing a show live at Howler and Melbourne on the 13th of October. Great venue. Such a nice place. St. Vinsers played there. King Gizzard and the Wizard of Ploid there. The killers of Ploid there. Jesperkins recently did a set and smashed there. You can see the place where Jesperkins

smashed. You can see Jesperkins smashed. It'll happen. It's also the first place Jesper did a gig. Okay, good yeah, the how long? For the 14, let's go. Jess is a co-cuff. She's not enjoying this long outro. This is a long kiss good night. But she's like, her lips have left the building. All right, thanks guys for listening. We'll be back next week with another episode. Hopefully see you in Sydney this Friday night and for everyone else I'll say thank you and goodbye. Later. Later.

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