Two In The Think Tank - 154 - The War Of The Worlds Radio Play

Episode Date: October 3, 2018

On October 30, 1938 Orson Welles and The Mercury Theatre broadcast one of the most famous pieces of radio in history. An adaptation of the H.G Wells' science fiction classic 'The War Of The Worlds,' performed as a news broadcast. Thousands across the USA panicked as they mistook it for a real bulletin... But is that the whole story? This is the first episode of Blockbuster-Tober.Dave's new Book Cheat podcast is launching on Planet Broadcasting on this Monday October 8. Follow the show below:Twitter: @BookCheatPodInstagram: @BookCheatPodFacebook: @BookCheatPodOur website: dogoonpod.comMelbourne LIVE show on October 13th : https://www.moshtix.com.au/v2/event/do-go-on-live/105917?&skin=4406&ref=hwlrUK shows : https://dogoonpod.com/events/Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] AND FURTHER READINGTHE WAR OF THE WORLDS, THE MERCURY THEATRE ON THE AIR, FULL BROADCASThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Xs0K4ApWl4gORSON WELLES MEETS H.G WELLS:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=450&v=3XhwiliJxc4https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/infamous-war-worlds-radio-broadcast-was-magnificent-fluke-180955180/http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/history/2013/10/orson_welles_war_of_the_worlds_panic_myth_the_infamous_radio_broadcast_did.htmlhttps://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-15470903https://www.telegraph.co.uk/radio/what-to-listen-to/the-war-of-the-worlds-panic-was-a-myth/http://mentalfloss.com/article/529187/when-orson-welles-met-hg-wells-the-war-of-the-worldshttp://www.lilanewman.com/about-ora-nichols/

Hey everybody, Jess and Dave, just jumping in really quickly at the top here to make sure that you are across all the details for our upcoming Christmas show. That's right, we are doing a live show in Melbourne Saturday December the 2nd, 2023, our final podcast of the year, our Christmas special. It's downstairs at Morris House, which usually be called the European beer cafe. On Saturday December the 2nd, 2023 at 4.30pm, come along, come one, come all, and get tickets at dogoonpod.com. This episode is brought to you by Progressive. Most of you aren't just listening right now.

You're driving, cleaning, and even exercising. But what if you could be saving money by switching to Progressive? Drivers who save by switching save nearly $750 on average, and auto customers qualify for an average of 7 discounts. Multitask right now, quote today at progressive.com. Progressive casualty and trans company and affiliates, national average 12 month savings of $744 by new customer surveyed who saved with progressive between June 2022 and May 2023. Potential savings will vary, discounts

not available in all safe and situations. Are you working way too hard for way too little? There's never been a better time to consider a career in IT. You could enjoy a recession-resistant career and a rewarding field with plenty of growth opportunities and often flexible work environments. Go to mycomputercareer.edu and take the free career evaluation.

You could start your new career in months, not years. Take classes online or on campus Visit PlanetBroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do-Go. One, my name is Dave Warnicky and I'm sitting here in the lounge room of one match Stuart with match Stuart and Jess Perkins. It would be weird if we were here without Matt. We'd broken in. Yes. We have keys. He still hasn't said anything. I mean, you say my lounge room,

but it's all of our lounge room. I did say that one time that if the sailors got up that day that I would own the lounge room, and we got up by 30 points. But I, you know, that was only meant to be as a bit of a joke. You guys, it's still your house, it's your lounge room too. Yeah, yeah, that's true, yeah. Thank you, that's good.

That's good. I know it's big of me and it took a lot, but there you go. That's why we give you the top bunk. Yeah, exactly. Top bunk for winners. Yeah. I'm the middle bunk because I'm working on it. You're just right. I

Imagine we sleep on that three-tier bookshelf over there. Yeah, that's on the top. It's very small. Can yeah, his legs hang off He supports one plant, so yeah, that's your room. Yeah. Thank you so much, let me sleep there Hey, it's so good to have you here in your lounge room Dave did you have some huge news? Well, speaking of bookshelves, you know, that's how you like to read them, put them up your butt. Yeah, I shelf books.

But onto my huge news, I'm very pleased to announce a new podcast that I've been quietly working on for many, many months now. I told our Patreon supporters about this a long time ago. And now I'm finally delivering people in many ways. You're delivering people. Yes. He's created a new rideshare app.

And I'm recording people secretly. Oh, Dave, no. Yeah. And then I'm going to blackmail them. Secretly. Secretly. Without that knowledge, I'm going to blackmail them. Secretly. Noly. Without the knowledge of Blackmail. Secretly.

No, my new show, it's in many ways a spin-off from our great podcast, DoGoOn. The new show is called Booksheet. Basically, it's a book club where I've read the book so you don't have to. I don't have to. You don't have to. None of you, you all don't have to read a book. Okay, I promise. Each episode I tell two special guests about a book I've read,

one of the classics, like a Dickens in Austin, or Hemingway, that kind of thing. I tell them all about the book and its plot and characters, so by the end of it, both the listeners and the guests can go to a swanky dinner party and pretend that they've read it. Ah, it means we can go to swanky dinner parties. That's why I've been avoiding swanky dinner parties

up until now. I was like, what about the book chat? The inevitable book chat. This show gives you a one-way ticket with no return ticket. That's right. Because normally when I get to a Dino Party and book chat happens, I just give them the finger. But now I can return surf. And normally when I book a one-way ticket, I also book a return. Yeah. It makes common sense. I thought I was putting it to parrots. That was a Simpson's reference and I remember it was from the IT crowd. So I'm sorry to the people that wanted me to make a Simpson's reference there. So I'm going to

have loads of guests from the Planet Broadcasting Network and from around the Australian Comedy scene. I've already recorded a bunch of episodes. Matt, Jess, you've both been there. I've read to you. Well, in a in a way yes. Yeah in a way. Honestly, the one I thought you were quoting was the darkness song, a one way ticket to hell and back. Oh my god I've never thought about that. It's so fun. I love the darkness as discussed. And already blew my mind then and it blows my mind now.

But I love the darkness. Oh man, I had a poster. It's like a rivet dance all over again. I have a t-shirt. You like that? Yeah, I'm a surprising person. She loves stuff from the British Isles. That is true. Well, we'll be fine.

She's a, what do you call those people? They're like, Britta Files. Angler Files. She's a real Angler Files. I like Britta Files. Okay. Big fan of Britta. Big, big fan.

Now, so just to sum this all up, my new show Book Treat is launching this Monday, October, Okay big fan of breeder big big fan now so just to sum this all up my New show book treat is launching this Monday October the eighth on the Planet Broadcasting Network You'll hear two episodes on that day all about the classics First of all the picture of Dorian Gray from Oscar Wilde with guests mr. Sunday movies and Nick Mason from the weekly planet and Episode two will also be released with a very own match to it Oh and Joel Dutra from Sandspans Radio. Talking about Shakespeare's Othello.

I love how Balsy is to do a book show. And on your very first release to do a play. That's going this podcast doesn't give a fuck about your rules. Oh, yeah. I see a rule. And I read a play about the rule. This is exciting. This is now, now our empire has three podcasts. I know. And many network within the planet broadcasting network gone to three. Jess, I wanted to say you're not left out of my show because the week or the episode after the first two, you're on it. And I basically host Matt's podcast. Yes.

Jess is a real regular and we've obviously we've got a bubbling under the surface phrasing the bar Just in my podcast about the career and the not the career just the film the filmography of the great Brendan Fraser Yes, what I don't think is a Fraser or Fraser. Yeah, we'll discuss that. Yeah, that's one of the big topics. Episode one. Well, episode one through three. Of course that's it. Ah, torn! He's got a little German, a little German warning there for our German friends. Watch out. Anyway, to sum up here,

please help me get the Bookcheat podcast off the ground by following it on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, all at Bookcheat pod. And you can give me a review on iTunes early on that really, really helps get it up the charts and that kind of thing. So give it a crack. Maybe I'll make you a tiny bit smarter. Get it up the charts and get it up your shell of those books.

It's a really fun podcast. It was really fun to be on. Hopefully I didn't ruin it, but I reckon it's going to be the best podcast and I don't make big calls. Wow. But this is going to be the best podcast of all time. Thank you so so much. And at the end, the guests get to review the classics. So let's just say I look forward to listening back to you reviewing one of Shakespeare's classics. I don't imagine he reviewed it very well Yes, poorly written review on the fly Now also finally there's a couple of tickets left for our live podcast this Saturday afternoon at a how our bon voyage show here in Melbourne

So this week next week. No, it's this week this Saturday holy moly Which I am so so excited about Saturday October the 13th Little hint there spookyness maybe a little hint about the topics. Oh actually it is not this week Just you were right it was this week if it was Monday when I released book cheat my apologies It is done Saturday week don't I mean we'll be there a week early obviously setting up Yeah, we're not idiots. That's a very technical. Yes, so people don't realize we do very thorough rehearsals Yeah, oh, this is all gonna be blocking written. Is that the word I'm looking for? Yeah, we scripted every show we have the different I'm sorry. I was reading Matt's line. Sorry That's yeah, see M is for Matt. Yes, my apologies. I thought I read M for Malady. I read M for me. I thought it was M for man. And I knew it wasn't me.

We should get cracking because it is blockbuster tober for grace. Matt, do you want to explain that to anyone who may have just tuned in if you're just tuning in which you may well be doing This is the first ever blockbuster tober for grace LaRone and it is Gonna be huge what we've done is we've we put out a vote to everyone out there on the Twitter's and also Facebook and we ask what is your favorite kind of topics that we do? And the top three, it's basically

like an elaborate family feud game. Only that's where the similarities end, the polling part. Anyway, the top three are chosen. And we're going to go now from the next three weeks, it's going to be the third most popular, the second most. And then the first most. And then after that, to really bring home the month of the bang, we're going to do our most ever requested topic.

And then the week after that we're going to release the live Melbourne Spooktacular episode. Oh my God, there's just so much happening. It is Blockbuster Tober for Grace. Why? Good advice. It is blockbuster tober for grace. My goodness. Is that now Tofer Grace and Willen Grace to both being referenced? Because that's awesome. Yes.

Yep. I'll figure out how that is later. How Willen Grace? Tofer for Grace. It's not Will for Grace, is it? Though it should have been. I've always said that. And then so what happens once the three most popular kinds of topics were selected, Dave's

chosen the, well he's picked out the third most requested kind of topic and then he's put it to a vote for our patrons and that is how we got to today's topic. Yes, that is right. So the third most popular kind of topic, so we put things out there like, is it a sporting star? Is it a mystery? Is it this thing that I'm about to talk about now? Is it a sports story? Is it a badass? I can tell you that the third most popular do-go-on report style of topic is about quirky events from history. Ooh! A love of quirky events. A love of quirky events. history. Ooh!

A love a quirky event. A love a quirky event. That's great. Do you know why we love quirky things? Why? Because we're bloody quirky. Yeah, we're bloody quirk heads over here. Takes quirk to know quirk. That's right.

Say that a lot. Now, we're gonna get going with the show. We always start with a question. I've written the report. You guys don't even know what it is on. And this was the... No, I looked at you computer before. Did you? Yeah, I know. I know what it is. What is it? Can you tell me? I'll just answer the question. Yeah, I'll answer the question. Let me just say that that was a decoy topic. What was

a history of bananas? You're literally looking at the fruit bowl right now i can i'm following your line of sight and looking at the fruit bowl she a coincide has far too many bananas in it in sixteen eighty one the banana was invented by so in banana so john in banana you did read my report

luckily there was a decoy so the real question is and this is an extreme coincidence which I've been mulling over for about 15 minutes now this week. We keep with the literary theme that I brought up with book cheat Oh, here we go. coincidence. Well, yeah, it is a coincidence as well. There were three topics only one was literary based and Patreon chose that this is right. So he's plugging his own little show, isn't he? Alright mate, you know what mine topics gonna be?

About bloody... Apes. Mine's gonna be about Bruno Fraser. Or Fraser. Can't wait to find out. My question is, in 1938, a radio adaptation of which classic novel caused panic That is ridiculous So earlier Matt when you're out of the room. I'm when I met a little Noise and Jess was like what's that and I said I can't wait to tell you tell you the coincidence

Because I looked over on the on your bookshelf and there was a copy of the book that's the answer to this question And then when you sat down Matt you said oh this is the book that one of our listeners Teagan gave to me to give to you for the new book chief podcasts and the one is this your card oh my god that is freaky the answer the question just what book am I holding up okay let me guess I'll just start reading some from the bookshelf. Oh, it's embarrassing. Is it a time quake by Kurt Vonnegut? So close. Oh, okay. How I escaped my certain fate by Stuart Lee.

Have read that, but no. Okay. Animal farm. It is not animal farm. I am running out of it. Jesus you are. You were being generous with the ones you're reading out from the bookshelf. It's not making you look worldly. 1966, the year of God. The answer is of course war of the world. It is HD worlds, the war of the world, which I would just like to point out, had

you not had your little backstory, I would have known the answer. You would have known the answer? Yes. Matt, would you have known the answer? Yeah, I knew that one too. That's a great story. The year 12's, the year ahead of me for their drama solos, one of the, because you can choose from 10 different solos, like characters? Monologues? Yeah. Well, you write it yourself, but you're given a basic character and... And an electric guitar.

Dramatic elements that you have to include, and one of the girls did war of the worlds. Anyway, wasn't that fun? Her name was Lucia. Oh, Lucia. I'm still Facebook friends with her. Great name, Lucia. Like that. Lucia. Lucia. Can I ask you a question, Ray?

Tegan, do you have any idea what her last name was? And where did you meet her? She gave you the book to give you the book. My goal, okay, it's time for me on the spot. I do know your last name. Is it Longman? Because this topic, I'm about to tell you, was suggested by Tegan Longman from the Gold Coast. Oh, okay. This is for learning. This is crazy. I'm freaking out. A few other people suggested it. Thank you to Charlie Ellis from Palm Desert in Texas.

Daniel from Provo in Utah, and Mariah Davis, who was the first to submit it, way back in the original hats. This is a very old suggestion. He told how when I used to just swear it to bed. I don't know, I don't know how many suggestions in it. That was odd, wasn't it? They did that. And we're like, Matt, take it off.

He's overheating it. Yeah. And it was smelling. A lot of sweaty topics and it was smelling. Now, do you know much about the apart from the drama solo from Luccia? Much about this. Yeah, Tom Cruise. It was a comprehensive solo, so yeah, I know the entire story. Thank you. Okay, great. Well, I'll drag this to Matt. Who seems to only know Tom Cruise? Tom Cruise was in the radio play originally. Originally. Yeah, originally, obviously. And he... What, you was that, sorry? Tom Cruise was in the radio play originally originally yeah originally obviously

and he what you was that sorry the year of our Lord 1817 nine Tom Cruise was in that yes I'm just he used to go by the name hg Nelson from Roy and hg rampaging Roy Slaven anyway take take control of this back. Well, do you want me to just start the review? Yeah, probably. Now, this whole story centers mainly around one man, who, and he just happens to be one of the most remarkable people of the first half of the 20th century. That is a huge call. Yeah, a writer, actor, director, magician and radio maker. His name was Orson Wells. Great name. It's a great name, but it's all it's like too many like if

he had a LinkedIn, it's too many things after his name, you know, like writer, director, actor, magician, I have a driver's license. It's like, how do I get it? The crazy thing is that he is a classic overachiever and he's excellent at all of them. Of course he is. I know, but I understand that as a podcaster radio presenter, as a comedian. Slash magician. No, I'm not a magician. Well, slash musician in a way.

In a way I mean that drama sol, you saw something play guitar apparently. Yeah. Big solo. Lalaloo. Yeah. Okay. So Orson Wells was born George Orson Wells in Kenosha, Wisconsin on May 6th, 1915. 1915. A good year. Good year, if you like world wars. Sounds awful when you say it. Well, it's not again, then what I'm gonna have to do. We're climbing. We're still forcing it. We've had this discussion, stop forcing it. Just be casual and cool.

I'm gonna be casual and cool and force it. You look really casual and cool right now. Your shoulder's a very casual and cool and not at all tense. Is a good year, that's all. Okay. Great. Now, Connotion and Wisconsin is quite a small city, but his parents, Richard and Beatrice were both incredibly intelligent people who introduced their son to worlds that went far beyond his

Wisconsin roots. I can show you the world beyond Wisconsin. Wow. The original lyrics. I don't know why I wanted to do this because Richard Wells, his father, had made a fortune in venting. Dicky Wells had made a fortune. It made a fortune in venting.

That's time to take a sip, man. Dicky Wells. He made a fortune in venting a type of lamp for bicycles. I love when he is on in venting a very specific product and they become very wealthy. I used to live next door to someone in my childhood home. They were quite wealthy because he'd invented some sort of lunchbox. Wow. You wouldn't even... You wouldn't even... Yeah, probably it would have been one of those ones.

You wouldn't even brag about that. Oh, his son was deeply embarrassed and I was fascinated by it. Yeah, good. Always asked questions. You should be embarrassed by that. Why did you get... Why did you have all that money? No reason. Yeah, very about it. Found it in the lunchbox.

I said too much. I said too much. We've done bad things. Killed a man. When really all you did did was create practical lunch carrying devices. Yeah, it's a kind of guy who also could have been a accountant. You don't like practicalities. No, I don't.

I like whimsy. That's why I like those little avocado holders, you know? No, I got rich on those though. No, because they're stupid. But they're whimsical. Yeah, I own two. What is going on? Anyway, so because of the wealth, Richard Wells was or Dickie Wells's primary was mingled

with actors and famous sports stars. His mother, this is Orson's mother, was also an influential on the young Orson, herself a concert pianist. She taught him how to play the piano and the violin. So a dicky and a penis. What a couple. And when a dicky and a penis get together, they make a wells and he was a child prodigy.

He was good at the violin and piano and could also act, draw, paint, and write verse. Okay. Well, what's the cutoff for prodigy? Yeah, I was going to say serious, serious, serious question. Can you be an adult prodigy? Yeah. I've dreamt about it before. Is it too late for me? I think so. What about me? I reckon you bought it alive. Yes so I got that fast, but it's not too late No, I mean it could be a

Prodegy like bowls or something that old people do you're young for that? Okay, I could be a crochet prodigy. Yes Ooh Yeah, I'll make it cool. Yeah, that's oh Yeah, I'll make it cool. Yeah, that's oh Proch that's cool. Oh You guys aren't crocheting What's up? Chrosy homies. Do you think I could be the next Kelvin Kerkel of Australian bowls? If you have no damn it Kelvin Kerko

You have no further questions and yes. Yeah, who's that you know the Kerkahead? You Kerkah? No man. Oh, listen is out there absolutely throwing their phone across the room They're frothin. They're for that human Kevin cocoa is one of the greats Anyway, look him up Okay, great Just one of the one of the best of all time Did it from a relatively young age Well, I assume everyone pause the podcast for a minute there and now welcome back, and you've looked up Kevin Kerko.

Kelvin Kerko, you piece of shit. Take your word for him. Welles, we're back to him. He also entertains his friends by performing magic tricks and staging. Many productions of Shakespeare's play. He sounds like the worst friend or no. It's a real overachiever. It sounds like, in many ways, a beautiful childhood, but in reality, it was far from it.

His parents separated when he was four years old and his mother died when he was nine. Orson's father became an alcoholic after his business and fortune faded and he died when Orson was just 13. Orson wells. So, Orson wells. You'd written it, but I was. I had not written it. I was.

That was choking him a throat. I had not written that. He has not written it but I had not that was choking in my throat. I had not written that he has not written it That's I didn't mean to say like that, but it's just that was beautifully written if it was Thank you. You haven't read it. Well, you don't care. Thank you for shit. Oh, I'm all about the written word Yeah, true. I'm all about the rift so well done, Dave often Welles That's the most brutal joke anyone's made. Oh, I don't know if that's true. Yeah, we've said some hang of things Some works on the show are the podcasts have said worse always from a good place. That's right

We say often with love we'd love orphans yeah Right. Yes, yes little off and Annie one of the best intense Yes, you can do I can, can I smell wet dog? Can I please? Was he not a question, can I? Maybe I think it was, why can I smell wet dog? Can you take the wet wild for really changes?

He's just like, he's like seeing a dog in a puddle on the side of the road and he's like, can I smell your dog? And the woman's just like, oh please. She said no and then he repeated the question in case she couldn't hear it. Can I smell your dog? And the woman's just like, oh, please. She said no, and then he repeated the question in case she couldn't hear it. Can I smell your dog? Where dog?

Okay. Oh, I see that's good. That's going to keep me going for a couple of days. To a fight. Daddy, wall bucks. To a fight another what dog? Oh, anyway, often wells. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, often Wells was in role, just for this sentence was enrolled into the very exclusive Todd school in which often was a dream. Yeah, it

was in with Woodstock in Illinois. Oh, is that the Woodstock? I couldn't tell you. You could tell me why won't you? I'll commit to a no. Well, just 10 years after his older brother Richard had been there, but he'd been expelled for his bad behavior. Orson didn't act out like his brother however, but his theatrical gifts were encouraged and he staged modern and classical plays that entertained both teacher and student alike. Now the school also had a radio station and radio classes, and this was well as first exposure to the medium that would play a large part in shaping his career. The first piece of radio that he made was a self-pinned and performed adaptation of a Sherlock Holmes story. Ooh. Which one? There's been a lot of times, the past episodes, we did a Shakespeare, we did a Sherlock Holmes.

It's all coming up. So which one could it have been? From all those ones we talked about, oh, they all roll off the tongue, but I won't bore you with them now. What Sherlock? Yeah, there's different sounds. And the Baskervilles. The sign of four. Greg, the stop sign.

They were plenty of great. And we just, I mean, we can't go on all more now. True, of course. Ah, when his father had died, Orson was taken in an adopted by Dr. Maurice Bernstein. He was a family friend and continued to encourage the now teenager. When he graduated from the exclusive school, he was offered a scholarship to Harvard University. But turned it down to travel to Europe using his inheritance. At age 16, he walked into Dublin's gate theatre,

and brashley and falsely claimed to be a Broadway star, and landed his first professional stage role. The director of the theatre later said, I knew he was lying, but he had a hootspa, he had confidence. Yeah, I was certain. How do I say? I just don't know. Jess, could you help me out here? Um, I think, well, this is in Dublin, you said Dave. Yes, that's right. I believe they would call it a genus equa. What was going to say they call it a tapy tapy?

You really think they're a simple people, don't you, David? It's something they invented rividence. And Guinness, another thing that's tapped. Oh. The punking is not a punking, Dan. He's here, though. Good to have you, Matt. Wells remained in Ireland for a year, acting with the company of the Abbey Theatre as well as at the gate.

He also designed sets, wrote a newspaper column, and began directing his own plays. With his eyes set on Broadway of the West End, in 1932, Wells left left Dublin and tried to get work on the stages of London in New York City, but for the first time on his life he was unsuccessful at something and he instead had to travel for another year and he went to Morocco and Spain. Oh, what a failure. I'm son of a fill for this man. I got the first ever gigo I went for by walking in and also you just go traveling and then walk into a theater and get a job like visas. Hello. I told you this guy is remarkable. I didn't know him as well. We wanted to do a show at Ireland but apparently the visa process

was going to be a pain in the old A. It was obviously separate country to the UK and one step harder than the UK. We needed a piece of paper and applications and money to be maybe denied. It was a bit too much, but Austin, he's a Broadway star. He was gonna be a pain in now. He was gonna step in. A whole. We are Broadway podcasters.

I didn't believe them, but they're a certain genocent choir. That's the customs officer. Yeah, later interviewed. Yeah, when we're, I knew they weren't Broadway. That's in America officer. Later interviewed. Yeah, one where. I knew they weren't Broadway. That's in America and they're Australian. But they had a certain... Mmm.

Tappy, Tappy. As we say here in Ireland. One tap for Michael Flat, another tap for Mr. Guinness. Tappy, Tappy. Orson broke to professional theatre in the USA the next year, so we only had to wait one while you... Oh, after traveling another year more, poor baby, more. That Marocka was hard. Oh, Spain, Yuck.

I mean, he's also still just a teenager as well. I don't care. Well, he met the... No, that's what I mean, like, it's like he hasn't had to wait or anything. He met the successful novelist and playwright Thornton Wilder. Oh, that is. Is this hot? Are you kidding me?

His name often gets stuck in my head because I think it might be one of my favorites. Thornton Wilder. I'm weirdly attracted to that name, you know? Yeah. No, not weirdly. It's a straight-up hot. Hell yeah. Is anyone else picturing a mix between Gene Wilder and Dave Thornton?

Ah, okay. No, I was thinking, Nigel Thorneberry. But Dave Thornton makes a lot more sense. What about Dave Thornton meets Van Wilder, party liaison? Oh, that's a hot combo. That's a hot combo. Hell yeah. So in Gene Wilder's... timing, take that thorn out. The only thing this gorgeous man needs is some comic timing. He's a very funny man. Incredibly funny comedian and a lovely person. The big two.

Yeah, those are the big two. So Austin met this beautiful man Thornton Van Warrant, a party liaison, who introduced Austin to the famous stage actress, Catherine Cornell, who was putting together a touring theater company, and he was cast in three touring plays, including Romeo and Juliet. So now he's got ongoing acting work.

His performance caught the attention of director John Hausman. Who also knew he was an abroad oyster. But he had a certain... Tappy, tappy. As they say in the bits. John Hausman, that is at the other end of the spectrum, isn't it? Oh, come on.

That's... No, that's him looking around like he was actually... Yeah, that is so interesting. John, he looked at a toilet. I'm in a house. And then a man John house man

Oh, please to meet you John houseman. I knew that wasn't his real name, but he had a certain So director John houseman cast Wells and his federal theater project Which is a program to fund theatre and other live artistic performances and entertainment programs in the US during the Great Depression. Trying to, you know, no one else could afford to keep the theatre going, so they invested in it to try and keep it a bit of morale going up. That's good. The arts are important.

They actually are. Yeah, I wasn't basically a guest. Uh, Jess? They actually are. Sorry about the delivery, but trade me in that way. Usually I hide when I think you're a fucking idiot, but somehow I just slip there. No, I just genuinely... They are, they're very important.

It's hard to be serious on this silly show. It's hard to be genuine, it's hard to just be vulnerable in this space, but I welcome both of you. Terrorism is bad. It actually is Dave. Oh sorry, I thought I was just making you a quip day for wow what it actually is like seriously so bad um Dave seriously Matt how bad is terrorism oh I'd say one of the worst yeah good joke guys good joke. We all know it's not right Somehow we were backing away and you still ended up in a corner We were giving you more and more space and you put yourself in a corner and said you did this Why is it like hey hey there's the door and I was like fuck that door I'm getting this corner.

Feet a position. No way out. The door's wide open today. Just wander across the road. We'll turn our back and count to 30 now. It's a trick this corner is safe. Anyway. Dave's insane.

Just to clarify. Art's good. Terrorism bad. Oh. Thank God. This buddy, Jeremy. Anyway, Dave's insane. He's to clarify, art's good, terrorism bad. Huh. Woo! Thank God. Thanks, everybody, cheer.

Well, now the way around. Had a little bit of time to think in the corner and I came out on top. Anyway, so, Houseman, John Houseman, Houseman and Wells would team up on a number of projects. In 1935, when Wells was still just 20 years old, he directed and wrote an adaptation of Shakespeare's Macbeth with an all-black cast, something that was very out there for the time. Wells moved the setting of the play from Scotland to Haiti, and the huge production had a cast of 150 people. Wow! That's big! That's huge! Was this the Olympic opening ceremony? No, it was a box office. I know the theater

The movie setting of this opening ceremony to Haiti It's a big production Jess The whole SCG I'm gonna jump on you now. You're gonna ride around this circle and you're gonna look like you have a good time, okay? I love you. Yeah, I'm gonna change costumes, I know. It's two of those guys are in a horse. Oh, God, that hurt. Anyway, this cast of McBeth, 150 people, it was a box office sensation. How many people are playing McBeth?

Nine. Yeah, nine McBeth. The smart thing about it is, if everyone brings a relative or two, you're going to sell it at a lot of shows. Sell it at every night. Yeah. The production is regarded as a landmark theatrical event because of its innovative interpretation of the play, its success in promoting African-American theatre and its

role in securing the reputation of its 20-year-old director who was again praised as a prodigy. Of course he was. It's funny that you say, like if everybody just brings a relative or two, because you'd think that most people have, like one or two relatives, but... Oh no. Orson. A certain, or often well slasin' happens.

It's like, okay, where are your guests? Well, he's gonna his brother, a little Dicky. Big Dicky. A big Dicky. What's the dad? Even Dicky. Even Dicky. Even Dicky. We just call him even Big Dicky. What's the dad?

We're just calling him even Big Dick. Anyway, it was a massive success and then it too with the USA. All this was happening whilst Austin was supplementing his income with radio work in Manhattan and he was pouring his radio money into theatrical productions that had not much money during the Great Depression. So he's making quite good coin but his big passion is theatre. So he just basically spends it all on his shows. Touring a show with 150 people. That's crazy. Like a combination and... Imagine the Airbnb. It's like Locust going to town by the time they leave, but there's nothing left in the shops. Yeah, the shop keeps just standing there like dumpers like... Much the same when we go on our UK tour and I go buy snacks. Yeah.

What just happened? Yeah. The bus sticks gone. Why don't you buy 50 whisper bars and 90 yogis? Love those. Love those. That's going to fill the boot. They won't be any room for our bags, so they'll be sitting on top of me in the back seat, and the boot will be filled with snacks. I'm okay with that. Or me in the back seat covered in snacks. Well, that's fun, swimming through them. After directing a few more plays,

Wells and John Houseman, with the power of house music house music his power is he's always home brings it on the road if you live to you be home by now I am I'm John House manizm? He's not John Home, man. John House, man, and Wells teamed up again in 1937 to form the Mercury Theatre Company. The company's first production was again a Shakespeare this time Julius Caesar. It was performed in modern day clothing with tons of fascist Italy. Very political it was received with a claim.

And this was on Broadway now, so Wells was now properly making it as a director. So he was a Broadway man now. Yeah, yeah. Broadway, acting, directing, doing it all. The Mercury Theatre had a core company of actors, the lead one was Austin Wells, one of which was also a young Vincent Price. Ooh, Vinnie P. Yeah, they get that. Basically, you'd know I was the the voice over in thriller, the Michael Jackson video. Sick voice. That evil voice at the end. Yeah, that's great voice. They put on more plays that were well received, everything's going well.

Wells really started to put himself on the map, exemplified by the fact that he appeared in full stage makeup on the cover of Time magazine. Wow. In 1938, just three days after he's 23rd birthday. Oh, my God. Time magazine goes far that back. Whoa.

Far that back. So, so. I mean, it went so far back that that sentence would have made sense back then. I was still not old Tommy talk. I was talking about 30s. The year was 1932. Two. Two. And that's how we talk back here.

We talk 30. I have workin enough on here. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Chantraboldo's grandpa. Hey, what are you, huh? What's my, huh? This is my whole house? Ha, ha, ha.

House man. House man. This is my whole house man. I have a whole house man. Well, you have to leave sir This is a children's playground I am playhouse man Welles were still working in the radio world and had become quite well known for voicing the shadow in the radio show of the same name Which I believe now saying that out loud Nick Mason may have mentioned the shadow is like an early superhero yeah the

shadow the shadow a well-steed voice was one of his trademarks hello I am or should wear Dave Kellan is that you no hello It is Dave. Of course of Wells's prolific output, he was earning quite a lot of money. He was raking it in, as they say. After a successful adaptation of Lee Mizz, Wells and the Mercury Theatre and its core of players were hired to make a radio show that adapted famous novels into radio dramas. The show was originally named first person singular, which I think we could all agree is a very catchy title.

I don't think there was lots of... You're being sarcastic, right? originally named first person singular, which I think we can all agree is a very catchy title. I mean I think there was lots of- You're being sarcastic right? Yes. Because it sucks. It sucks! But there was a lot of monologues that's why I was cool about that. But I didn't want to do a Dave and be like,

terrorism's the best, you know? Yeah. I didn't want to be like, yeah that's so good. I love that title and then you turn around and be like, just we would joking and I go I know Because I am brutal ruthless brutal and ruthless with my takedowns you are ruthless Go on leave me ruthless So it's called first person singular it later changes the name to the Mercury theater on air better a little bit better

floating Oh the show was very low budget because I didn't have a sponsor but it gained a cult following. It first aired on July 11, 1938 and was on air on CBS Radio on Monday nights at 9 p.m. Then after two months it changed its slot to Sundays at 8 p.m. Prime time. Sundays at 8. Even back then. To get one of those slots now. Yeah, cheers. Yeah, one of those sweet radio slots at eight o'clock. Hell yeah. Okay, well, I mean, I'd love an eight o'clock because I'm currently from 1 a.m. to 6 a.m. Oh, yes, that is the sweet spot. Yeah, that's the prime time. Dave works on a show that's on it. What time's

you showing? I watch it every night, obviously. I just want to make that clear. We support you. I just don't, I watch it on a 10 play. Right. So I don't know about the time of it. If that's what you're asking. If that's what you're in, it's anyway. Obviously watch it. Every night. But I, at my own leisure. Of course.

Yeah. But every night. You don't watch it live from 6.30 to 7.30. I watch it live at 6.30 to 7.30. Although I would love to. Anyway, the Mercury Theatre on the Earth. I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to watch it you don't want to live from 6.30 to 7. I want to live at 6.30 to 7.30, although I would love to. Anyway, the Mercury Theatre on air. Have you noticed I haven't got up to the

War of the Worlds part yet? Sorry, I'm having fun. No, I'm just saying. No, no, no, it's fine. So basically we'll shut up. How the show would work was, it went out on 8 p.m. on a Sunday. A small orchestra and sound effects folly team would accompany the actors who would rehearse before going out live, but when they were going out they would read the scripts in front of them. Wells was asked to play the lead role each week and he also directed the productions. So it's very much his show. That's my kind of acting job too, where nobody can see you and you've got a script in front of you. I love that, actually.

That is a good idea. Wells demanded perfection, particularly with the sound effects, many of which had to be developed to satisfy the young director. Booyo yoyo yoyo yoyo. Stiffy. A little bit more boing. A little bit more boing. Bwap bwap bwap bwap. Sad Stiffy.

Stiffy going down. Stiffy going down. Stiffy Stiffy going down Stiffy going down Stiffy did not Hurtful Stiffy Stiffy in the wind That one Is that a checker like that? That sound like someone using it. No.

Stiffy verapolvo. Shanana. What? Cherry and subsdives. Shhh. Shanana. I also like how he looks up into the middle distance as he does. Shhh. He really goes up into it.

Oh, this is really fast. This is really fast. Oh, that's when you've committed to holding a plate from the kitchen to the table. You're in no man's land. So well demanded perfection just like that. I wish I was around his day because I think you're really going to use the man of a thousand noise. The Cala. I don't think anyone else has ever hit my caliber of noise. Give me a quick one now. Give me a quick one. Give me a quick one, Dave.

And then we'll go back to the book. The first episode was an adaptation of Dracula and the team struggled to find the right sound. Right sound for the steak going through Dracula's heart. How would you do that? Sake through a heart. Oh. Stake going through Dracula's heart. How would you do that? Stake through a heart? I mean, to me, questions sounds a little bit like James comments James Bond has snuck up on someone and karate chop to them on the back of the neck Can you do that again for me?

Sorry, that's what it is. It's not what you said. Yeah, thanks on seeing it up. Karate chopping Dracula's heart. Yeah, that's what it is. How to go again? Karate chopping Dracula's heart. Yeah, that's what it is. How to go again? I mean now it sounds more like someone's like bit enough more than two with a big apple. Is that what you said? Well basically. Yeah. Well what they did was they first presented to Wells a cabbage and a sharpened broomstick. Much too leafy Wells concluded. Drill a hole in the cabbage and fill it with water. We need blood. Yeah, vampires aren't leafy. Too leafy.

Too leafy. A little bit of leaves, sure. As we all know vampires are a leafy animal. But this is all too leafy. We want a wet leaf. I want to film that. I want to a wet leaf. Don't want to film that. I'm going to get that leaf. Hold on.

I'm just going to get that leaf. I'm going to get that leaf. I'm going to get that leaf. You turned on my leaves. I'm a little older. I'm a little older. I'm a little older. Sorry. Mmm.

Sorry, when I am awesome, well, I go all in and he is turned on my leaves. It's a property of leaves. Yeah. He's good at everything, including... Fucking leaves. I was gonna say lovin' leaves, but... Sure. You know, if you wanna get straight to the brass tax...

Brass tax, what do they sell now? Oh, that's no munderwater. They've just fell into a pond before. Don't dive in after those. Jesus, the Mexican walking fish is going to have a pretty big bad day. Fum, fum, fum, fum. There's the Mexican walking fish. Oh, anyway, he didn't like that, so he called for a watermelon.

What's that can only assume he hummed and then had put with a hammer to create a harrowing sound effect. Matt what with a hammer on a watermelon. So that's just the warm up. That's just the warm up. I mean I don't know why you tried to drink while Matt was doing a sand effect just I could swallow it down buddy You pick that up. He's punched himself in the face. Yeah, that was violent You get that I'm getting that laden clear. Oh, I said my wisdom Don't hit your face questions comments Oh, I just have my whizzes of teeth. Oh, don't hit your face. Questions, comments?

Over the next 16 weeks, the Mercury Theatre adapted classics like Treasure Island, a tale of two cities, the 39 steps, Jane Eyre and many others, most of which are on my radar for my new podcast book, Cheat, available this Monday, October 8. You piece of shit. That's the worst. I've never done that about primates. Which is out every Thursday night

Sush Friday depending on where in the world you are We've had topics like rise of the planet of the apes and Beast Wars Congo and Congo and two episodes on the Simpsons and counting what day of the week is phrasing the bar gonna come out of it Because we've got Monday Wednesday and Thursday covered now, so we go choose our Friday. Yeah, I think they're both good options All right, it seems like a fun Friday kind of podcast, right? Thank you. You're driving to work. You like put on a bit of a phrasing the bar phrasing the bar Fridays. Oh, phrasing Fridays. Love it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Love it. Oh, love it. Love it. I've written here. Anyway, back to the story after my plug. It was on October 30,

1938 week 17 of the show that the players would perform the show that would put them and Orson Wells on the map. For the 17th week, Wells decided to take a different approach. He wanted to adapt a story, but make it sound like it was actually happening live, and that the story would be presented as a new show reporting on real events rather than a typical scripted radio play. Orson brought the idea to John Houseman and director Paul Stewart and they discussed which spoke the same way as you. Do you know Paul? Yeah my dad.

Was he director in the 1930s? Yes I assume. Why did I forget his name's Paul? Yeah, I said you'd know. I mean, you know. I know him well. I know your dad's John, your mum's Annie. Yeah.

We got John, your dad's Paul, my dad of course, Ringo. Martin. Okay, Martin. Marty. Marty, boy, if you're listening, thanks so much. Appreciate the support. These are listening. It would have been good. Marry! Marry boy, are you listening? Thanks so much. Appreciate the support. These are listening.

It would have be good. I mean, there's a lot, if he just doesn't listen to podcasts. Just doesn't have ears. The man with no ears. Anyway, so Paul Stewart, John Houseman Orson, together they discussed which classic they would adapt in this Newsy way. It was eventually decided that they would adapt the HG Wells novel, The War of the Worlds. A quick background here on the story including spoilers. If you don't want me to spoil what happens in the world of the worlds, maybe you skip ahead and don't listen to bookcheap

because I really ruin books. Wait, do you make it more enjoyable or something? Yes. I like them easier to pal. You can devour a classic in a single setting. Single setting. Sitting, really working on that tag loss. Yeah, it's not great. Setting, sitting. Sitting. If I'd said sitting, you would have been

clapping me out of this lounge room. Yeah, as we always do every night. Get out of here. Clap, clap. Because you know I'm scared. Every night when you go, all right guys, I'm going to go to bed, we applaud. Yeah, and I go, is that thunder?

And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying.

And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying.

And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying. And the terrifying Chucky and I have a couple of hot hot dogs. What a combo and hot toddy hot toddy. And hot doggies. Hot doggies. We put on a real spread. Is that when you dip a sausage in the hot toddy? Yeah. Yeah, well, you buy it each end of the hot dog and then you drink the hot toddy through the dog.

Yeah. Come on mate. When I was little, I don't think I've told you this story when I was little mom used to play tennis Every I think Monday night or it was Monday or Wednesday. It's important to get this right Should we call it one night? Let's hold no, let's hold on. I need to know if this is a Monday or when you're working like a Googler. No Other results are in it was a Monday night No, get give fucked.

The story is going to be so good, please. So we would have a mum would go and play tennis. Sorry, which one? Monday. And for dad and I, it would be like our little secret chocolate night. Like we'd have, like there'd be a block of like, pavement, Be chocolate and we'd have like oh after dinner once mom's gone to tennis Oh, we'll get out the chocolate, but she don't tell mom was all this big thing I've like a lot of winking between dad and I and all very exciting. Yep. See you later. I'm having a good time

I think you're winking you're out the door. Yeah, all right. It couldn't wait for it to leave And I found out years later mom was well aware of chocolate night and often bought the chocolate for us. Oh, I mean, that's sweet. She'd have it ready for chocolate night. That's all, that's really sweet. Isn't that cute? Oh, that's just a clustered story of betrayal. Nah, it's cute from every perspective. Cute, I'm little already adorable, I had a fringe. A bit of a list probably, who knows? Cute for Dad, having a little daddy-dora time. That's nice. Cute for mum, facilitating that daddy-dora time.

And also, having a bit of mum time. Yeah, a bit of mum time. And getting those, buddy, what do you get? Endorphins. Endorphins. I think you're gonna say, serves down the centre of the court. Probably a bit of those. Oh, down the right down the tee.

Oh, she was great at those. Oh, she's going right down the tee. Oh, right. Oh, it's a kicker. We. That's Annie. What's that 40 love? Oh, bank by bank. They could used to call her pistol peep. Sam Press. It was confusing. Yeah, that's the time. She did have a big monobrow and people, but also a great surf. Anyway, if you have skipped ahead, we still have a little bit ofrow and people but also a great surf Anyway, if you have skipped ahead we still haven't told you the story of the world so here it is It's a science fiction novel by English author H.D. Wells first serialized in 1897 by Pearson's magazine in the UK and by Cosmo

Politan Cosmo U.S. Wow Did something interesting in 1897? UK and by Cosmo Politan, Cosmo, where are you? Where are you? Wow. Cosmo did something interesting in 1897. Huh. Huh. Yours. Wasn't all just goby tips. Is that a thing?

It's like all it is. Just goby tips. Yeah. What's the number one tip? I'm not. Cup the balls. Yeah. I didn't know any seven.

I see you that the VFL began also big year. Big year. Yeah, big year. Gobby tips and footy. Gobby tips. I've done heard the term goby in a long, long time. Is that what you're talking about? Gobbies?

Yeah. Is that an Australian? I think people figured out the context of yours. No, I was just wondering. Because I think so. I'm going to cut the balls. What could he be talking about? Long balls again. He's always over there.

He's always over there. A very influential book. It was one of the earliest stories that detail a conflict between mankind and extraterrestrial race to summarize it. The story recounts a Martian invasion of Great Britain around the turn of the 20th century. The invaders easily defeat the British army thanks to their advanced weaponry, including a heat ray and poisonous black smoke. Jess, you're trotting on my... Yeah, it's how it feels. No, you're trotting on my... Yeah, it's how it feels.

No, it's heritory. Wait, have I been adorable lately? Oh, I've been adorable. Is that my thing? If you want to be able to know, that's not offensive. No, I love that big fan. That's your brand. Except when strangers say it, then it's weird.

Yeah, do you? Don't message men say you're adorable. Get fucked. I mean, it is strange that you put it out there that you are adorable and then you're like, don't tell me the thing I say. Yeah, I'm allowed to say it, I know me. You do, don't you. You know you and you do you.

Yeah. Oh, I do. Anyway, when the aliens are easily taking over, they are suddenly killed by an earthly diseased to which they have no immunity. The Smithsonian writes, the novel is a powerful satire of British imperialism. The most powerful colonizer in the world suddenly finds itself being colonized. Yeah, how do you like that? So that's the hot doggies.

That's the original 1897 story. But by 1938, the year of the radio broadcast, the world of the world was well-known in popular culture and frequently adapted in comic strips or other popular adventure stories. Perhaps because of this, Orson Wells decided that this was the perfect novel to adapt in the news bulletin style.

Right, that makes sense. Like you've never heard of before. I didn't know it was a well-known story. Yeah, because that makes it seem dumber than everyone has told by it. Yes, but they do a lot of creative license for the story, right? A lot of adaptation. The main one being that it's not in the UK, they set it in the USA. Oh, okay. Well, that's such a far leap. I can't possibly make any kind of decision. But if you're at home in New York and you hear, oh, UK's being taken over, you're not going to be as scared you're gonna be like

Paul them yeah proximity. It's what we learnt in journalism school Is that it you just learn about proximity? Yeah, I didn't learn much that things near you It wasn't a particular good school to be honest In a name and shame no Well selected the book but because he was so busy, right? A Howard Cosh was hired to adapt it into a script. Cosh would later go on to co-write Casablanca for which he won an Academy Award before being... With a famous line, tell me about it, stud. Isn't it finishes off by... And yeah, that's how it opens and then at the end, there's

that famous line where it goes Fuck off idiot Isn't it yeah, yeah, I mean one of the Academy Award for that He was before being black. Tell me bad. It's dead. I love that arc though How do you get from one to the other? That's the beauty of it? Storytelling yeah, I don't make it like that anymore. No, they do not that's a cost for you There's a piano in the middle yeah self-playing through fun. Yeah, it make a like that. No, I do not. That's a cost for you. There's a piano in the middle, self-playing, through a fun. Yeah, it's so good.

But I think ding ding ding ding. Cosh was eventually blacklisted by Hollywood for allegedly being a communist. So I did not end well for him. Blacklisted. Yeah, it wasn't allowed to work in Hollywood anymore. Well, that guy Cosh took a dislike to the world of the world when he first read it,

finding it a little dull. And he's... At this time, alien stories were stuff for children, and not really believed by the general population. So he thought it was a bit of a dated story, and he had less than a week to turn it into a radio show. Kosh worked on the script for three days before giving up. Eraying the producer, John Houseman, saying that he was really struggling and asked if Orson would consider another story instead. House man told the writer Cosh that Wells had his heart set on the world of the world and

Cosh gritted his teeth and got back into adapting it. The truth, however, was that the producer John House man had called Orson to ask about the possibility of adapting another classic in this new format, but he couldn't even get onto it. Well, it was busy rehearsing his next play and had reportedly been doing so for 36 hours straight. Oh, that was all they call it, rehearsing for a play. Cup in the balls.

For 36 hours straight. That's the number one tip. Yeah. Keep going for 36 hours. 36 hours or he doesn't love you. Cops through the pain. Well, I didn't even have time to think about the world of the worlds. Looking back career wise, that was probably a good thing.

I've cos worked on the script of the story that he hated day and night and finally he had a draft ready. A small number of the Mercury Theatre actors rehearsed what he'd written without Orson there, and it was generally agreed that this new style of script without the usual live soundtrack was an absolute disaster. At this stage, the radio script was divided into two equal parts, much like the original novel. The first half was devoted to the fake news bulletin about a Martian invasion.

The second half was mostly lengthy monologues from the character to be played by Orson, as the journalistic character recounts to the audience what it's like wandering the streets after the aliens of ravaged the city. Well, finally read the script, and suggested that the second half was a tad on the long side. And that the monolog just kept describing things would be quite boring and he suggested that they extend the first half and make the news bulletin longer. Apart from that, he was too busy for any real notes. So producer Houseman and director Stuart were in charge of notes to give to Cosh who had to very quickly rewrite the script that he already ate. Right. He was getting lots of rewritesides. It sounds a lot like, you know, the podcast

that it been going around last years of that sort of false realism, bit science fiction, you want? You can get the same. All right, yes, like I welcome to Night Vales, the really popular one. Yeah, there's a lot of them out there. That's, it's in just how you describe it.

I'm like, oh, that's really coming to value in last few years. Yeah, this is 1938, isn't it amazing? Hmm. I good to hear.'s really coming to the very last years. Yeah this is 1938 doesn't it amazing? Hmm. I good you. This is pre podcast. Oh just. Is it? When did podcasts event?

39. I thought it was when we started. Yeah. 39. I good you. 70. 70 years of unrequited it was. Unbelievable.

But this because the Newsy bit grew. I was just trying to get everyone loose there. Oh, good year. That was better, yes. Because the Newsy Big Rule on the second half struck, this meant that unlike usual radio shows at the time, the break that usually happened half or through the show would come two thirds of the way

through the hour. I love that. I love a light interval. So when you really need to pay, and you're going, I'm bored, and I need to pay. Oh, it keeps going. And then you just come back for a beast at the end and you're like, oh, that was fucking pointless.

Oh, I love that. She should have just paid. She should have just paid and left. Yeah, she should paid on the stage. And left. Yeah. And it'd be weird to stay. Just staring at her. Just staring at her. Get back to your seat. Never breaking eye contact. Now that's a power play if I've ever seen one. And you have. A Brad Schwartz in the Smiths

stadium. His name is A Dot Brad. He's a writer, he's written a book about this, and he wrote an article in the Smithsonian. A bad is name being A.brad. No, about the, he's reading his B.brad. Well, he writes in the Smithsonian. Apparently, no one in the Mercury realize that's the theater company that listers who tuned in late and missed the opening announcements would have to wait almost 40 minutes for a disclaimer explaining that the show was fiction.

Radio listeners had come to expect that fictional programs would be interrupted on the half hour for station identification. Breaking news on the other hand failed to follow those rules. People who believe that broadcast to be real would be even more convinced when the station failed to break at 8.30 pm. Who... listen... ah, okay, pretty TV. Yeah, so... I was going to say who knows that so well. This is when radio is TV. Yeah, so I was gonna say who knows that so well. This is when radio is massive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, millions of people. Radio is still huge. Yeah, it's not dying at all. What? Mum? What was that? I've given up everything for radio. You hang in there.

I was talking to the coming back. Great, great. I was not talking about newspapers. A radio, a working radio. That's coming back, too. Coming back. Yeah. It's booming now, isn't it?

Yep. Whew. Thank goodness for that. Really told just the truth then. What's that? Can you hear this, too? Yeah, you said that out loud. No.

I'm going to talk to Matt telepathically. No, this whole time you've just been talking to him. And I've just been listening. She's just sleeping. Do you hear that? No. Are you here? Are you here in what I've been saying to you?

Yeah. Yeah. What? Can you keep yours down? Can you hear what I've been saying to you. Yeah. Yeah. What, can you keep yours down? Can you hear what I've been saying to you? What? Why are you looking at me? But not saying anything.

Matt's just been telepathically giving me great gobi tips. What? I'm just like... I don't. What are you doing gobi tips? It's mainly just believe in yourself. And look, honestly, it's the best advice I have ever got. Just if you just enjoy yourself and respect each other.

Some of these last minute revisions also changed how the story unfolded to the audience. Two moments that inter-pted the fictional news broadcast with the regular dramatic scenes were deleted or revised. At Houseman's suggestion, Kosh also removed some specific mentions of the passage of time, such as one character's reference to, quote, last night's massacre.

All of these things contributed to making it seem like it was genuine news unfolding in real time. And it wasn't just the writers that put effort into making it seem real. Frank Riddick. The... Riddick. Riddick? He's Riddick. Name's actually Riddick. Frank Riddick.

Riddick. Yeah. That's bad. Or Riddick. If you still out there Frank I'm sorry. Or... Riddick. Riddick. If you still have that front, I'm sorry. Oh. Redic. Redic.

This episode is brought to you by Progressive. Most of you aren't just listening right now. You're driving, cleaning, and even exercising. But what if you could be saving money by switching to Progressive? Drivers who save by switching save nearly $750 on average, and auto-customers qualify for an average of seven discounts. Multitask right now. to It's not available in all safe and situations. Are you working way too hard for way too little? There's never been a better time to consider a career in IT. You could enjoy a recession-resistant career in a rewarding field with plenty of growth opportunities

and often flexible work environments. Go to mycomputercareer.edu and take the free career evaluation. You could start your new career in months, not years. Take classes online or on campus and financial aid is available to qualified students, including the GI Bill. Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. A Kia SUV is capable of taking you far, but when you use it locally to help your community,

you go even further. Whether that's carrying cargo, bringing your team with you, Redic are navigating new terrain. Power up your capability with the right Kia SUV. Do more with the Kia Sportage, Kia Telluride, Kia Sorento, or Kia Salto's. Kia. Movement that inspires. Call 800-333-4Kia for details. Always drive safely.

Redic. If it first United States say redic and redic again, Always straight safely. Dick. If at first you don't succeed, read Dick and read Dick again. That's my gobi tip. Number nine. Frank Reddick, the actor, casts as the news reporter who witnessed the Martins' arrival, listened to recordings of our old mate,

Herbert, all the humanity Morrison, the guy describing the Hindenburg disaster, he imitated not only his tone, but also his cries. So make it sound. I'm a big fan. Yeah, not for the Hindenburg thing, just like we're here to record it himself crying. Yeah, his fame is crying. Yeah.

My wife left. I'll never love again. A lot of that. Real shook. So in the play it was more like, oh the aliens have been vain. I'll never love again. Why? Why? My wife's an alien. No. I'm not exactly a no. Thank you. I'm a lost an alien. And she left me. Yeah, an alien.

What a bitch. Oh, it's a lie. I'll say it. Honestly, you're better off it. Oh, I'll straight out bitch. I never liked her. There are also fewer sand cues than usual, but the ones that were in there were delivered with precision. And watermelons.

Precisely hit watermelons. Oranicles, head of the sound effects department at CBS in New York. That's a great name. Oranicles. That's good. She was tasked with creating incredibly believable sounds of alien war machines. Huh. I mean, they're not quite that realistic.

Shh. I'm a pedo-worn. It's great. It's so good to finally have someone studying underneath me. All these years of year and fermenting. And it feels good to have your own board Menate

Sorry, I've yearned for an amenity This is about the original woman of a thousand voices met from the 1930s according to That was one of hers 96 According to That was one of hers 96 According to Leonard Molten's book the great American broadcast Wells latest sent Nichols a handwritten note thanking her for quote The best job anyone could ever do for anybody In terms of sound effects. Yeah, no, that's what we are Reacting to also so she absolutely nailed it also a side note and aura

She was one of the few people to ever stand up to Wells after he called her a crack pot during one of the rehearsals She walked out and only came back to work after he apologized to her Publicly yeah boss bitch. Yes. Love it. I also I like standing up How I'm gonna stand up to you is walk away? Yeah? Yeah, that'll show you and And I did. If I can do it. So that's something that no one would ever dare ask of awesome well. So she was a real bad person that way. So they put all this effort in, but none of them predicted they would get the reaction they would receive. Lawyers even looked at the script and made only very minor changes, like changing the names of real institutions mentioned in the story to stop themselves being sued. But no one was like this is a bit too real. Yeah right. No one said that.

Radio critic Ben Gross, all these names are so top-notch. Recalled asking one of the actors what they had planned for Sunday's show and he replied, just between us, it's Lousy and that it will quote, probably bore you to death. Wells later told the Saturday evening post that he had called the studio to see how things were going and received a very similar dismal review. Very dull, very dull, a technician told him. It'll put him to sleep. Wow. So, no one has faith in this project.

I'll say, expectations are very low. This worried Wells. His theater wasn't going well and he was going to have to do what he always did. Whip the radio show into shape. Montage. Oh my god, training montage. They're running up and down stairs. They're doing exercises. I need a hero. Yes. And he's yelling at everyone except aura. He's apologising to her publicly and she's like fist pumping. Yeah.

That's great. He's crossing out things on paper and throwing it out and they're going, slapping Vincent Price across the face. Yeah. I love this. I love a training montage. Almost as much as I love a shopping montage. Oh, when they're shopping montage. Tell me how I love a shopping montage. Oh, when they shopping montage.

Tell me how the wardrobe in different outfits. And there's always a one that's weird and they're looking at them like nah. Yeah, and then they come out in a second one and they kind of go, yes, better. And then they come out in the one and it's like, yes. Yeah. I love a shopping montage. So basically, shopping montage. Or just doing that and people have to remind them, mate, this is radio.

He's like, this is an important part of the process. I love a montage. He says, makes a montage sound effects your fox. He said. Really what he did was just hours before showtime as usual, Orson Wells rocked up for the last rehearsal. So he's left them to their own devices all week and then a few hours beforehand he comes and is like, what do you got? What an absolute diva. Whippet good. and then a few hours before hand he comes and is like, what do you got? What an absolute diva. Yeah.

Whippet good. I hear you read the script and hated it. According to his producer, House Man, outbursts like this were very usual for Orson. He yelled at the cast and crew calling them lazy and ignorant and claiming that it was up to him to save them yet again. All while secretly loving it. He really thrived under pressure. He thrived.

Oh, hate. You don't like throve? I don't like, you know what? I'm reacting to something there that I see in myself. That's what it is. And that is that I also am much, much better at the last minute under pressure. And I hate that about me because I really wish I was more organized because I always get to the last minute and I go, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, and I hate that about me because I really wish I was more organized because I always get to the last minute and I hate it.

But give me three days to do an easy thing and I won't do it. In three days can you pass me that banana? Within the next three days. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just need it in the next three days. Within the next three days. Yeah. Yeah. Monter you can do it right now.

Yeah, I know. I just need it in the next three days within the next three days. Yeah. Okay, great. Monter's just sitting still for three days and then going, fuck, fuck, fuck. The banana. That's what it feels like. That's what it feels like I do. Well, it's what Well's does to and what he does best. He decided to he walked in and started to change everything. He decided to slow down the opening of the news bulletin in order to try and make it seem more realistic

House man objected strenuously claiming that it was now going to be tedious to listen to because basically for the first ten minutes of Boring bulletin but well as overall then believing that listeners would only accept the unrealistic speed of the invasion If the broadcast started slowly, then gradually sped up, rather than, oh my god, suddenly it's happening. Wells also added back in something that Koch had cut out from the first draft, a speech from the Secretary of War, Wells assigned the role to actor Kenneth Delma, an actor who was known for his impression, or impersonation of then president Franklin D Roosevelt. During this time the networks had expressed rules against impersonating the president. You're not allowed to do that. So rather than actually tell Delma that he should do

his impression of FDR, Wells Millie asked the man to be a bit more quote presidential with his delivery and then winked at him. Is that enough to get around a rule like that? And Delma knew what he meant. I'm not saying which president you should. Which president? Mr. Wells, which president? This would also add to the confusion of listeners, what's the president really telling them

about an alien invasion? How good is his impression? He's probably spot on. Because you think about like Malcolm Turnbull impressions. They're always like caricatures, but back then the impressionists just did. Sort of like a bold one Trump kind of thing. Yeah.

Like quite good. Yeah. Quite good, but still humorous. Yeah. Oh, you listen to me, I go, oh very good. I recognize that. Very good. Very good.

Mm-mm-mm. Mm-mm. Yes. Outpres- I forgot our Prime Minister has changed. Scott Morrison, but has anyone done a Scoma yet? Why would you? Go Shackies! Yeah, nice. Got him.

He loves sharks. Ah, you're- Not the animal, or probably the animal, the Crinola Sharks, the rugby team. Probably hates the real animal. Yeah Dog he's such a hot doggy Confused but yeah, that me too finally it was time for the show to go to air and you have to remember It's a reminder that Sunday evening in 19 30 it was prime time in the golden age of radio So millions of Americans and their families had their radios turned on, sat down.

Millions. Millions. Most of these Americans, however, were listening to Ventriloquist Edgar Bergen and his dummy Charlie McCarthy. They were listening to Ventriloquist. I hadn't thought about that on the radio. I mean, it's a pretty easy gig, isn't it? You could basically have two actors

and just pretend you're doing it. They were listening to a ventriloquist. Just remember, this is not in the, yeah, they're simple. On people. All right, okay, all right, that's great. Well, that's the perfect segue because I wanted to tell you guys about my new podcast, ventriloquism with Jess.

And it's me and my puppet., Ventril the Quism with Jess. And it's me and my puppet. I'll just get my puppet out now. Okay, wow. Hello. That's me talking to my puppet. Hey, puppet. You just, I'm going to ask you a question and then I'm going to have a big, a super

water. Okay. What did you do today? Oh, I'm drowning. I'm drowning. Oh, no, I'm drowning. Oh, no. You didn't think really well when you're bracing the Australian National Anthem at the same time. Oh, me and my puppet.

You and your puppet, of course. Yeah, well, we both sing the Australian National Anthem. It's amazing. The different sides of your mouth apparently. Oh, it's music to my ears. Yeah, thank you. I've worked really hard on it. So please, tune in to my podcast. It really was a with Jess. Wow. You've network is more on it.

And network is really expanding. Yeah, I was going to wait to announce it, but it just felt topical now. You don't want to miss this opportunity. Matt, why you love it? Do you love my idea? Yeah, sorry. I just felt topical now. You don't want to miss this opportunity. Matt, why you love it? Do you love my idea? Yeah, sorry, I just came back. Just painted. Look how fun it is. What I miss.

I was just talking about my new podcast. I've had Trillik with them one. Oh, that's a great one. You got real good skills. Yeah, I've been working on it. I wonder why you were being seen when that dummy on your leg all day? Yeah, yeah.

Old day. Oh, it's Scott Morrison, you mean? I got it. Now, I hope he does a great job for the country and if he's listening. Go Shackies. I'm sorry. Basically, so most people are listening

to this very popular ventral-equism act. I'm still unbelievable. That's on NBC. Kind of you didn't think of that. No, I was just like, discipline. Makes sense. Is there any greater up for? Listening to a magician. Like what the fuck?

Trust me, it was the right card. LAUGHTER Every trick ends with that line. Yeah. And it's always, my god, he's done it again. The next point behind you, you're here? Got it. The show afterwards is the one that

read real high the mime out spot on wow it's lucky's in a box I find mime confusing it the best time so it would be doubly confusing because you're a very literal person I watched people do mine and everyone's like oh my god wow I knew what he was doing the whole time and I was like, was that a bird? What the fuck was that? You watch people do mime all the time. All the time. Wow, that was big of the comedy festival for a couple of years. Get new friends, Eric.

Who keeps taking you to mime? What are you going to like? I mean, it can be very good. One of the best shows I've ever saw was Dr. Brown's one. But I knew what he was doing. That's why I was impressed. Anyway, I don't think of his mism as a mom But he didn't speak for an hour. Is that what mommy is just not talking? So I'm a mom every night

in bed Tip number nine so silent It drives a crazy I call I call him quite clown. That's not mommy. That's quite clowning. Clowning. Yeah. Are you getting clowning and mimeing confused? That is definitely mine. Okay. Yep. Anyway, people are listening to mine on the radio. Can you believe this? I can ridiculous. That's on NBC. They only tuned in. This is the majority of people to CBS at 812 PM after the comedy sketch ended and a little known

singer went on. By then, the story of the Martian invasion was well underway and many people missed this announcement. This is how the show starts. Columbia Broadcasting System and Affiliated Station present Orson Wells and the Mercury Theatre on the air in the War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells. Right, okay. So it's a clear announcement. Then it's a music played, then Wells did a small introduction, then a weather report played, and this is how history.com describes the first few minutes of the radio play. After the weather, the announcer took the listeners to the Meridian room in the hotel park

plaza in downtown New York, where you will be entertained by some music from Ramon, Rakello and his orchestra. That was all quite from the announcer. A Putrid dance music played for some time, remember history.com is where some are. Putrid, Putrid. And then the scare began, an announcer broke into a report that quote, Professor Farrell of the Mount Jenning Observatory had detected explosions on the planet Mars. Then the dance music came back on, followed by another interruption in which the listeners were informed that a large meteor had crashed into farmers' fields, or a farmers' field,

in Grover's Mills, New Jersey. New Jersey! Right, so within a few minutes? Yes, so there's interruption. We interrupt this program to tell you about explosion on Mars. Anyway, back to your music, we've got another announcement, guys! I mean, you all sit the earth! Okay, it's a lot happening in a short...

It's a lot happening. Span of time. And this is well slowed that down too. So the other guy wanted to go straight action, but he wanted to make it, you know, sound a bit more realistic. By this time, American audiences had become accustomed to news reports interrupting radio programs.

They had heard them often during the war scare in Europe in late summer and the early autumn of 1938. So it's not weird for an announcer to be like, we interrupt this program to tell you about some crazy breaking news. It's, you know, it sounds real. Soon an announcer was at the crash site describing a Martian emerging from a large metallic cylinder.

Good heavens, you declared. Something's wriggling out of the shutter like a gray snake. Now there's another one, and another one, and another one. They look like tentacles to me. I can see the things body now, it's large. Larges are bare. It glistens like wet leather, but that face. It, it ladies and gentlemen, it's indescribable. I can hardly force myself to keep looking at it. It's so awful. The eyes are black and gleam like a serpent. The mouth is kind of V-shaped with saliva dripping from its rimless lips, that seemed a quiver and pulsate

Great great words on the spot. Yeah, I love that. I can't describe it. Here's a script And some great acting there Dave. Thank you. I can really see that drama degree Thank you. I don't know I just I really did want him to say when he said awful I want to say beautiful can you read that line ending it with beautiful? awful. I want to say beautiful. Can you read that line ending it with beautiful? Yeah. It listens like wet leather but that face it it ladies and gentlemen it's indescribable. I can hardly force myself to keep looking at it. It's so beautiful. It's coming over the tentacles up. So it's Oh, tip number six, really coming in handy. Tip number six of eight tentacles.

Then the Martians mounted walking machines, this is where Auras... Oh no, they're mounting our walking machines, pumping and pumping away. Oh no, he's making sweet, sweet love to the tank. Down the bed. You've watched these aliens get out of there. And then they just say, oh yeah. And you like that? Do you like that?

It's like a view. And then they just get back in and fly away. And then I'm just left there going, what the hell just happened? The tanks are just like what? Other than the aliens fired, heat ray weapons at the puny humans got that around the crash site. They annihilated a force of 7,000 National Guardsmen, and after being attacked by artillery and bombers, the Martians released a poisonous gas into the air, farting all over the place.

Hey. Oh. Excuse us. Excuse us. I'm just trying to make love to a cannon. Soon, Martian cylinders quote, that's in quotation marks. So I'll let you fix. Martian cylinders.

Landed in Chicago and St. Louis. If you want to hear the whole radio broadcast, it's all on YouTube and I will link to the recording in the episode That's so cool that it's still exists. It's still totally exists. You listen to it. I like who's describing humans as puny The reporters like oh, that's puny humans. Hey, don't turn yourself so quickly, man. Yeah, that's all right Yeah, the aliens come along and to start beating everyone up. No, you're gonna put up a good fight. You are so puny, you're a man. At home, people hearing it were apparently panicking and not realizing that they were listening, that what they were listening to was fiction.

As the broadcast continued, a deluge of calls continued to light up switchboards across the country. In some quarters there were even vague reports of suicides and panic-related deaths. Oh no, please no, no, no, no, please. Produced by John Houseman. I love Houseman. Notice that at about 8.32 pm, so just over half a through the show. CBS supervised a Davidson Taylor, what a name, Davidson, received a telephone call in the control room. Creasing his lips, Taylor left the studio and returned four minutes later, quote, "'Payal is death' as he had been ordered

to interrupt the war of the world's broadcast immediately with an announcement of the program's fictional content." However, by the time the order was given, the program had already less than a minute away from its scheduled half-time break that 40-minute mark I was talking about. And the fictional news reporter played by actor Ray Collins was choking on poison gas as the Martians overwhelmed New York.

I love the... You'd be like, so we're only a minute away and he's gonna choke in a second, so don't worry about it. Yeah. The radio station caught onto the panic You'd be like, so we're only a minute away and he's going to choke in a second so don't worry about it. The radio station caught on to the panic and announcements were made at 10.30pm, 11.30pm and midnight. And they said, quote, for those listeners who tuned into Orson Wells Mercury Theatre on the air broadcast from 8 to 9pm to 9pm, and did not realize that the program was merely a modernized adaptation of HG Wells War of the Worlds, we are repeating the fact which was made clear four times on the program that while some of the American cities names were used as in

all novels and dramatizations, the entire story and all its incidents were fictitious. Wow. So I had to make that announcement on the hour, on the half hour and at midnight, three more times. Wow. Shortly after midnight, one of the castes later, Ivel, told Wells that news about the world of the world was being flashed in Times Square. They immediately left the theater and standing on the corner of Broadway and 42nd Street, they read the lighted bulletin

that circled the New York Times building, quote, Austin Wells causes panic. This is when the new shit was going down. Wow. Of course, this is all well before the internet outrage, before Twitter machine and news websites. These days would obviously spread that in a second. But the next day the program was in the newspapers for all the wrong reasons. Apparently it had been too realistic in frightening for its audience causing panic across America. That's incredible.

That is. Yeah. It feels like enough people would have heard the warning parts to have been like the panic going around the neighborhood. I know that's just a source of miles. Source of miles. It's a it's a play guys for sure. Acts.

Yeah. You see someone like packing up everything like I'm moving. I don't move. Oh wait, can I buy a house? Yeah, I'll give you 10 bucks. I swear, you're obviously panic selling. So I'll load more. That's okay. I'll panic by. Yeah, aliens are coming a better buy all the property I can. Just in case. A morning papers from coast to coast reported on the mass hysteria, it had caused the front page of nearly every news paper Was about this including the New York Times which read radio listeners in panic taking war drama as fact I love old old headlines That is really making them sound silly isn't it?

It totally is in Providence, Rhode Island, weeping hysterical women, swamped the Providence Journal with calls asking for more details of the quote, massacre. In Pittsburgh, Associated Press reported a man returned home in the middle of the broadcast and found his wife with a bottle of poison in her hand saying, I'd rather die this way than like that. I'd rather die with this poison rather than with their poison. I don't want any of that alien poison killing me. Have you seen what I've done? I'll die with the stars and stripes poisoned in me.

Thank you very much. God bless America. In San Francisco police fielded hundreds of calls from frightened listeners, including one man who wanted to volunteer to help fight the Martian invaders. What a champ. Apparently, in New Jersey, terrified civilians jammed highways, seeking to escape the alien marauders. People begged police for gas masks to save them from the toxic gas and asked electric companies to turn off the power so that the Martians wouldn't see their lights.

One woman ran into an Indian... I can't get to the switch. Indian... I'll get to the switch. It's, I can get to the phone though. One woman ran into an Indianapolis church where every, where evening services were being held and yelled, New York has been destroyed. It's the end of the world. Go home and prepare to die.

Okay, let people just enjoy their service again. I mean, how do you, yeah, how'd prepare to die? That is a great phrase. What do you do when you're preparing to die? I imagine you go to church. It's not like you had an all wrong, all wrong. Stay here when I prepare to die. The good news is you don't have to commute anywhere.

The highways are packed, don't worry about it. This is where you need to be. In fact, I'd say this is a stroke of luck that you're here waiting to die. All right, so for interrupting, bye. Bye. I've got to go to the next church. Tell them the good news. Nearly 1400 people sent letters and telegrams to Wells himself in the days following the War of the World. Do you, Mr. Wels, I, for one, do not find it very funny. Your little radio play made me shit my pants. I'm putting my most expensive pants that day.

You owe me a pair of pants, Mr. Wels. Oh wait, here, pantsless. Until you reply. Forever yours, cold in the bottom half. You'll know it's me, because I'm not wearing pants. That's I'm amazed at how yeah, at the reaction to that that's incredible. It's crazy, it was all the media could talk about, so Orson had to front the press. The day after the broadcast CBS made him hold a press conference

to answer the journalist's many questions. Welles thought he had done serious damage to his reputation. Quote, if I'd planned to wreck my career, he told people at the time, I couldn't have gone about it better, so he's really quite worried. Fearing his livelihood was on the line, Wells went before dozens of reporters, photographers, and newsreel cameraman in the CBS building. Each journalist asked him some variation at the same basic question. Had he intended, or did he at all anticipate, the war of the world would throw its audience into panic. At the press conference, worlds repeatedly denied that he'd ever intended to deceive his audience. But

this has been debated over the years. It was a genius in every other thing you did. Maybe he was also a marketing genius too. No. No. So, why don't just told you about the panic is the story that the media of the time pushed forward and for decades was accepted as to what had happened. A 23 year old genius had accidentally fooled the nation and caused chaos and destruction all with some sound and actors. But is that the whole truth? Oh my god, there's a twist. This has increasingly come into question over the last decade or so. More people have been talking about it.

So all the major newspapers presented sweeping claims about thousands or even millions of panic-stricken Americans. They offered little supporting documentation. Most newspapers printed dispatches sent by wire services, such as the Associated Press AP, which extrapolated widespread fear from a small number of scattered and anecdotal accounts. Newspapers, moreover, reported no deaths or serious injuries relating to the war of the world's broadcast.

Had Panic and hysteria seized America that night? Then surely we would have caused many deaths and injuries one would think. But there was no evidence of anyone actually being hurt. Right. They go rid of the bodies. Oh, aliens. That's the twist they really was aliens. I mean, if you're gonna strike,

that's a perfect time. The perfect time as an alien force. Then everyone's like, yeah, if that was a sauce in miles, you're like, case closed. Nice, I humped a tank and I left. I humped a tank and I left I have the tank I got right into that cannon hole alright beat me up Scotty my work here is done I'll call you on the morning, tits. Talking to the tank.

Are the BBC rights for newspapers, the so-called panic broadcast, brought newspapers an exceptional opportunity to censure radio, a still new medium that was becoming a serious competitor in providing news and advertising. So was it just newspapers having a cop at radio that it saw as a threat? Radio is news but it has adult responsibilities, chided the New York times. It has not mastered itself or is the material it uses, another shot at the radio. And there were studies published to back up the panic. Social psychologist Hadley Cantrell and the radio research project at Princeton University

launched an immediate investigation into the panic in hopes of gaining fresh insight into the power of propaganda But their research was fadley flawed because Cantrell's team interviewed only a relatively handful of mostly frightened listeners in New Jersey Where all sources agree that the panic Where sources agree that the panic was the most intense in New Jersey, where all sources agree that the panic, where sources agree that the panic was the most intense. In New Jersey. So they went to New Jersey where the panic was crazy and then they said, well, that happened here. That's probably what happened everywhere.

That's extrapolate. That's extrapolate. I love an extrapolation. I love the word. I love saying it. And this made the panic seem even like, hey, you didn't say it. I can't. The word, too.

I like that word like you didn't say it. I can't. The word, too. I like that word, you said. I like to imagine myself saying it sometimes. The next three days. So basically, this university account made the panic scene more extensive and pronounced than it possibly actually was. And of course, as is often the way

with cult stories like this, over time, the event became legendary and more people claim to have heard it live. As weeks, just like the challenge that it disaster in my last report, everyone, it's such a big news event. Everyone's like, yeah, I saw that live. We had listeners who said that.

Yeah. Yeah. Because a lot of them were school children at the time, which were watching it live. Right. Which is so tragic. And I apologize for bringing up any bad memories for those people.

As weeks, months and years passed, the audience's size, this is for the world, swelled to such an extent that you might actually believe most of America was tuned into CBS that night. But that was hardly the case. Far fewer people had heard the broadcast, and fewer still were actually panicked by it. The night the program aired, CE Hooper rating service, telephone to 5000 households for its national rating survey. Basically they call a house oven say to which program are you listening to tonight? Only 2% answered a radio play or the Walson Wells program.

None said news broadcast according to a summary published in broadcasting. In other words, 98% of those surveyed were listening to something else or nothing at all that night. Gotcha. Wow. So again, this is extrapolation from 5,000 households. But they would call up. So what are you listening to right now? Yeah, but I wouldn't tell them would I? Yeah, you might lie. It's like if Netflix did that and called up and said,

what are you watching? I'd be like, docker. It's never a docker. It's always Kimmy Schmidt. The same thing. Kimmy Schmidt docker. Yeah. Imagine if that's how the internet did ratings.

What are you looking at on the internet? Oh, right. It's actually a video Britannica? Yeah, Britannica. Nobody would be like, porn. You got me. Sexy porn. That'll throw them off the sand.

Eh, eh, eh. Well, look at this unsexy porn. Oh, yuck. Oh, no. Look at that tank. So basically, that info I just read comes from a slate magazine article and they were saying if more people were listening, more people would have responded to this survey. So basically, they think that this radio program, which had a cult following, but wasn't the most famous program on the radio at the time, that maybe not that many people were listening to it,

and because of that, obviously less people were panicking. And as for the rumors of suicides, the rumor was checked and found to be inaccurate. You'll be happy to hear, Matt. I won the same research as surveyed six New York City hospitals six weeks after the broadcast. None of them had any record of any cases brought in specifically on the account of the broadcast. No specific death was ever conclusively attributed to the drama. One particularly frightened listener did try and sue CBS for $50,000, which is a so frightened fortune at the time. That's so much that's a lot now. She claimed the network caused her nervous shock.

Okay. Now lawsuit was quickly dismissed because you didn't get any money. The show was influential in style, however, the Federal Communications Commission chairman, what is it, and Frank Mick Ninch. You nailed it. Thank you. He quickly obtained an informal agreement from the radio networks that fictional news flashes would not be used again. Killjoy?

So there were no official rules or regulations, but all the radio networks agreed. All right, we won't do that kind of program anymore, just in case. Because people are idiots. Again, another thing that says people did know that it was fiction was that announcements that the world's was a dramatization were made

at four points during the broadcast at the beginning, before middle break after the middle break and at the end. So a lot of people who were a little bit tricked stayed glued to the radio, waiting for information and if you listened to it all, you would go, oh, you got me. And it also maybe... Speak to other people? Speak to other people, change station. You know, while they're in this low point here, I'll see what they're saying over on NBC, whatever. That's a cool thing in real.

That's a CBS NBC and stuff started as radio broadcast. Yeah. That's cool. There's an iconic networks in America. Hmm. But yeah, I think it's funny. I don't know any more than that. It calls, supposedly calls panic, but the more you talk about it,

it's like, yeah, obviously this is, they've beat this up for publicity. Then both the newspapers had an axi-grind, and awesome was a smart with publicity. Absolutely, and overnight the show got a sponsor. Right. It became like a very famous program. I mean, we're still talking about it. Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it? So did lots of people panic or did no one panic?

That's sort of the two sides of the presenter here. The truth is, as is often the way, in the middle somewhere. The media did exaggerate people's responses, but some people were genuinely panicked by the broadcast. One couple, John and Estelle Paul, traveled all the way from Manhattan to Hartford, Connecticut after hearing the play. They spent all of their savings to get on a train and beat the assumed rush of people fleeing in terror.

So they heard the start of the broadcast or missed the start, but they heard a bit of it and went, oh, everyone's going to try and get out of the city because of this, let's go now. When they got off the train, they told two college students what they'd heard on the radio. A crowd gathered around them Not knowing you know if these are crazy people or if this is actually happening until someone mentioned Orson Wells a still had seen him perform live before in Broadway and you instantly that she'd been tricked Well, you haven't been tricked like they weren't

Yeah, there's no malice in it. It's not like I like this or bloody get them. Yeah, it's like you've been like you've not listened to confused a lot of information. I've been tricky got me again. I was just like at that play. He wasn't really. He wasn't really burning down the theater. That's yeah. And it yeah, it feels like it's almost like a just a test to get rid of the idiots out of yeah, I think it's like I'm curious. It sounds like they just build a wall up there left It sounds like a stale and was it John? It's always John. John is John the stale Paul or Pulse Pulse it's good that they sounds like they don't have kids and that's probably for the best I think no no they left

them They left them to die we can't afford any trade tickets. That's all our savings will earn the cover two tickets. Do you like that? How in the that's kind of nice. Back then if two people got off and were telling a story that a crowd. These days you can just imagine people just a verdict there are. Yeah, walking but you back then you're like, ah, go the round. Go get around everyone. Something's happening. Something's actually happening. 27% of the 1400 letters written to Orson Wells did talk about Panic and Terror, so they're

the complaint letters, or some in some ways fan letters as well. Some people were genuinely scared, there's no denying that. It was just crazily over exaggerated as to how panicked and how many were panicked by the broadcast. In reality, it was decades ahead of its time, history's first viral media phenomenon. At least in New Jersey, that was panicking here. Panicking here. You know what they like them, New Jersey, and so always panicking. Back to Wells in the career that he'd worried about would be ruined by the reaction. History tells us that the opposite is true.

In fact, one of the only things that is certain about this broadcast is that it secured Wells fame as a dramatist. It made him famous across the country and even around the world. Instead of ending his career, War of the Worlds cut a folded Wells to Hollywood where he would soon make the film Citizen Kane. I've heard of it. Because of the notoriety of the War of the Worlds, Wells was given a contract by RKO Pictures that gave him the unusual freedom to develop his own story, usually his own cast and crew, and have the final cut privilege. So he said to them, I, you know, I'll make a film, but I get to edit it and you don't get to see any of it

before I give you the final cut. Which gets to everything. For the first time director in his early 20s is crazy. But they were like, yeah, all right. And what's financially it actually wasn't a huge success at the time. It has gone on to be frequently cited as the greatest film ever made. And it was just 26 when he co-wrote, starred in and directed it. Get fucked. Amazing. Isn't it?

It's interesting that that's still not really done very often. People giving the creative that kind of freedom. Oh, like, oh, look, the great, like what is often described as the best movie ever made was done this way. Anyway, we've got some opinions. Could this movie go with a monkey? Obviously, I'm on the side of yes for that. Obviously. I love, look, I'm not saying Sydney Shardinberg is, you know, was a bad guy and remains a bad bad guy but I just think you should back off sometimes okay see anyone do you think about that well I just don't know the sense it doesn't can I mean does he have a cane what what's going on what we need is a giant robot an alien no

a spider it's always a spider get it in there get in there kid but a being better boom a million out that's how I make this money gotta go see you later Sydney's in and out. He can't. It's a very one-sided conversation. He's always just in. Strangely. Yeah, you do a lot of sorry awesome. Sorry, sorry.

Sorry. I'm his assistant. I'm his assistant. I will try and pass that on. Uh, but a being but but so what did you finish? I'm Sydney, you said okay. I love seeing Dave, or I love seeing the process, I'll just say that.

Almost looked at the curtain a bit too far there. Well, we'll listen up a little bit, we'll do much. Yeah, a little bit of ankle. Keep me entertained. Yeah. People with panicking, listen, they're gone. Sydney Sharnberg was in the studio. I'm going to Connecticut for the rush. The rest of Walson Walson life is very fascinating. In many ways, never really living up to his young potential, but really he deserves a whole another episode. I just wanted to end with one story. A little under two years

after the broadcast of the War of the Worlds, Orson met the novel's writer H.C. Wells. No. For the first and only time, Wells and Wells. They're different Spellia, are they any relation in Wells? Wells is W-E-W-L-L-E-S, but HG Wells is with no second EWLS. So related? Yes. I coincidentally, the two men were in San Antonio, Texas for separate speaking engagements, at a radio station, KTSA arranged for an on air chat on October 28, 1940. Again, I have linked in the description to a YouTube video of this conversation that

still exists. Wow. That's cool. Again, I've linked in the description to a YouTube video of this conversation that's going to exist. That's cool. And the difference in the sound in their voices is definitely worth listening to if nothing else. HD Wells is a quite high-pitched voice of an old man, like an old English man. Well, to see this. Please. It's not that far off.

And Austin Wells has his famous American sort of booming voice, quite deep, so it's very funny to hear them convey. Go on! Where when I wrote them, Storff, real hard, or... Fascinating! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha H.D. Wells expressed his delight at meeting my little namesake Orson and joke that Welles should drop the extra E in his name. They touch on the author's visit to the United States, listen as a reaction to the radio show, and Wells next project, Citizen Kane, so this is before it's come out.

That's great. That's a big cute. And just to end here, with a final fun fact. Oh, I'll bid the judge of that, Dave. Rephrase that sentence and say, now to end here with a fact. Now to end here with a fact that may or may not be fun to the discretion of Bob Perkins. Thank you.

Welles' directorial copy of the broadcast, the script was auctioned in 1994 at Christie's in New York and was bought for the 1994 Some of 24,000 pounds by one filmmaker Steven Spielberg Who went on to make a version of the War of the Worlds in 2005 starring Tom Cruise Where we started you mentioned I said Tom Cruise 24,000 pound. I really hated that movie. That was the first movie I remember really hating in the cinema.

Like just seeing me with your arms crossed? Like for a long time, I was just like being at the cinema was enough. And I'm like, I love it. It's big, it's loud. Look at how big that is. That judge had good movies on how big the screen is, but I remember that day when this was fucking stupid.

Anyway, I guess that's what you get for watching 19th century science fiction. And absolutely finally, later this month on October 30, it will be 80 years since the broadcast. AC! And we're still talking about it today. So it's pretty amazing. It really is one of the most famous pieces of radio and history. Whether or not it did cause the panic is hotly debated. That. But it still is obviously a very famous and quirky event

from history. Very quirky. Thank you, and good night. Hi, you dropped the mic there. Hey, um, Pun King check it in. Um, here's a little pun riff. I thought I could do. Um, this is already bad. So, um, okay, so we set the war of the world's radio play, uh, on Star Wars planet, right? And we have a key character Naboo, right? And then a

key that we got a guy listening at home, right? His name is Panic and Skywalker. A couple of high fives straight up didn't expect it. I thought that was bad, but they wanted to fave it. All right, punking it out. Hell yeah, I love that. I love that you're embracing it. I'm looking to embrace it. I hate it, but you know, if you can't bet them, do or them. As they do say in the class six. I do say.

I do say. Can you tell us again later? We're getting silly. What a great report Dave. Thank you. I learned a lot there. Sorry about everything I said in between if you could edit that out and say the top that I was absent. You're sorry about two thirds of what you said.

Sorry, yes, that's right. One third of the second. The other third was perfectly fine. Yeah, mainly the noises. So it's time for that grade segment in the show. Fact, quote, or question. And the theme song goes. Fact, quoteote or Question.

And this week Fact Quote or Question comes, oh Dave Johnnext playing how this works. Well basically, through our Patreon, Patreon.com's that's do go on. What if you want to honor support show, you get rewards at different levels, including two bonus episodes every single month. That's probably the main draw. But at a certain level, you get to give us a fact-querto question at the end of the show and give yourself a title as well. That's if you're in the Sydney Shineburg section. Get on board or get the hell out and this week Our fact-quadal questioner our Sydney shine burger is

Richard Frederick shoe but the third it's the second time he's dipped into the fact-quadal question Shubi and he's giving himself the title up, which is also his real-life nickname of the caveman Can I suggest a nickname of Shubi do up? Yeah, you can and you'll take it on board the caveman. Can I suggest an nickname of Shubi Duwap? Yeah, you can. And she'll take it on board. The caveman's actually very cool, but I'm gonna call him Shubi Duwap. Last time around, we talked about his name because it is a cracker name. We asked, we talked about whether or not

if he had a son that the name would go on. And he said, first of all, to answer your question, yes, if I have a son one day, I would like to continue the tradition and name him Richard Frederick Schubert IV. Great. And he also asks us a question this week, and here it is. If you had the opportunity to do so, obviously if you didn't have the opportunity, this question

is moot. Which fictional world slash universe would you want to live in and why? Examples, Middle Earth, Narnia, Oz, W? Narnia knows we understand what fictional world he's giving examples and I just want you know scuba do That's a dog you want to live inside the dog scuba do no the world was scuba do is real Oh, okay all the world the world no you want to live in the world So live in a world where aliens come and terrorize it for a while and then get a disease and drop out and really late in the movie just start falling over and you go this has been a waste of time. I want to live a low is a pretty average film. I

want to live in the world where click right in just remote control. Doesn't that end badly? Oh, we can slap David Hasselhoff as many times as you like. Yeah, I think I'd love to live In a world where the Saints win a premiership and that feels fictional at the moment or 1966 one of the two now probably the back to the future verse. Oh Good boy. I'd love I'd love to be in that DeLorean. I'd love to meet Marty and the doc I'd just try and weasel my way into that friendship love to be in that de laurean. I'd love to meet Marty and the doc. I'd just try and weasel my way into that friendship. So to be Marty, the doc in. And Matty's team.

Let me just say my real answer would probably be the Poirot universe. Oh, because I love the era, the 20s and 30s, the love art deco, and I love Hercules P himself. Oh, Hercules. I'd love to meet the man. Yeah, what a dream. The man, the myth, the legend, what a guy.

And another segment we do right at the end of the show with our Patreons is we like to thank a few as we go. And I'd love to kick this off tonight. We normally do a little game. We're gonna name the radio play. Oh, love it. I love that. I'd love to think from Garland in Texas United States of America. A place that we now thanks with thanks to our patrons we're gonna be heading over to sometime in 2019. That's right we've hit the US to a goal. Can you believe it? It's so exciting. I'm so excited and I still don't fully believe it to be honest. I'm pinching myself. I'm gonna get a Gary throw that first pitch

Oh, you're wearing my roundcats jump around now anyway. I'd love to think from Garland, Texas Josh Harmon. Oh I ain't no harm in asking That's as ready if I want to about It's about It's a love story. It's like a rom-com, a teen, rom-com, where the geek is in love with a popular girl, but not because she's a popular girl because they grew up together.

And she's actually really sweet and lovely. And he knows her and he's in love with her. But he's too scared to ask her out. And one of his friends says, there ain't no harm in asking. I love one. They say the title of the thing in the thing. Yeah, it's so good. Then they just apply.

So they turn, it's a radio play. I was gonna say they turn and wink. They do do that, but no one sees it. You just hear, ding, ding, ding, ding, you know. You know, you don't know the wing. Somehow they get that dignoes from a cabbage with water in it. Yeah. They have to stick it in there, don't they?

Thank you so much Josh Harmon, you bloody legend. Hopefully we'll be coming somewhere around the Texas area next year. I'd also love to think from another great One of our other favorite states in America from Athens in Ohio You know what it states. I've loved to think Graham Koch Oh, Graham Koch who maybe related exactly to how would Koch the alleged communist and Academy Award winner Let's go with Academy Award. winner. What a hot double.

Yeah, okay, what would the Grimes be called? Love the name Grimes as well. Hammond it up. Great. Great ham. Got it. Hammond it up. And it's about a ham industrial.

Ham industrial. Ham industrial. That's a surprise I'm not going to be able to finish. About a man who works in the ham industry. He's's been he's made a lot of money in ham and now he has 20 days to spend all his ham money or he has to eat nothing but ham the rest of his life I love like a concept like that you either have to smoke this marijuana or go to jail forever it's like all right Call me a doobie brother So he ain't but yeah didn't spoil it but he ends up spending the money

But he decides anyway that he wants to eat him the rest of his life. I love that ending Greyham you bloody legend. Thank you so much cutie and hopefully we'll be seeing you in old Ohio and hopefully we'll be seeing you in Old Ohio. Tins, Olders and Nixon, come on. Yeah, so let's think in that. That's probably why I said it in that rhythm, but in Neil Young. All right, I would like to thank if I may. Please.

From Birdside, Burnside in South Australia, Liam Moroni. Liam. Oh, Liam. Liam Moroni, Liam Moraney. Liam Moraney. Neither of you want to help me with this. All right. I was thinking it's like a bio.

It's called Boone Moraney. And it's all about this man who is born with his bones on the outside. Wow, exoskeleton. Exoskeleton. Liam, you're the main character. And director. Yeah, it's about his trials and tribulations. Do they end up putting the bones inside him? No, in the end we find out that the bones were inside of all of us all along. Yep. You can't add to that, it's too perfect. Yeah, you're right.

Obviously, let's make this movie. Sean Burk can't even chirp in and fix that up anymore, because that is perfect. That's perfect. He's never crossing anything out and written giant spots. He just underlined it. He said, yeah, yeah, exo, like that, love that. Exo.

Thank you so much, Liam Moroni. I would also like to thank from Denmark, can you believe? In Allborg. Allborg, my god. I'd love to go there. Tell your friends. We'll come to Denmark. I would like to thank Mikael Lorrodsen.

Oh, that is a fantastic idea. Mikael, thank you so much for listening in Denmark. And of course, you're the main character in Hamlet, a prince of Denmark, the radio adaptation. Wow. Any twists that we bring in then in the modern prince of Denmark, the radio adaptation. Wow. Any twists that we bring then in the modern age? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. What's this style?

It's, he's addicted to podcasts. So he can't actually hear any of the other characters. So they talk to him, and he's got ear buds in the whole time. Yeah. Sorry, what? Yeah. Sorry. Basically, it's just pointed at the end.

Yeah. Can't hear. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. I. Can't hear sorry. Yeah, sorry King Kong Is a primate saying primate fan. This is not a future rep. Thank you so much Mikael Mikael that's so cool. I love that Denmark. May I thank some people? Please like professional youJs Perkins. Dead set per row.

I would like to thank you from Philadelphia. Ooh, hey, ooh, hey, I'm a Philly. You want to eat some of them Philly cheese steaks. Ooh, hey, ooh, my brother's here. You want to show me some love. Hey, go then flyers. That's the right one, that's the right one. Nice.

Hey, I'm the fresh prince over in West Philadelphia of a playing basketball. So that's what I got to in a much more succinct way. Most of my days. Showing out, relaxing, Maxon. Oh, shit, I was just talking about how much I talked too much and I've done it again. So from Philadelphia, I would like to thank

Liren Bromberg. Oh, yeah. Never heard that name before, but I can't get it out of my mind now. Bromberg is very good too. Those Liren. Liren. Yeah, amazing.

I don't know that name, but I like it. If you do. If my head's like an earworm, like a catchy jingle. Liren. Give me some of that Liren. I'm, but I like it. In my head like an earworm. Like a catchy jingle. Leran. Give me some of that Leran. I'm trying to think of a, so I just trying to think of a radio play. Oh, what about? Leran.

Leran so far away. Flak- His thing is called the flock of seagulls. Just the band that performed that. And it's sort of like a modern... Is that the one? Oh yeah, he doesn't believe it. And it's sort of like a modern... Is that they're only? Oh yeah, you didn't believe it.

And a flock of Seagulls. So, and the play, it's sort of like a modern cat's where everyone's a seagull. Ha! Ha! That's my audition. Yeah, you got the part. Thank you.

Well, lead role. League Seagulls. Squawk is the lead character. Oh, I love them. Yeah. Well, that's you. It's one of them called Hot Chip. Yes. Oh, that's good. Hot's one of them called hot chip. Yes.

Oh that's good. Hot chip. Who will be playing hot chip? Uh uh Liren Robert. You got the part kid. Congratulations. You're right Liren. That is a big role and actually that'll that'll make you go places. Tell you what a big role would do feed a few I think they prefer hot chips. Hot chips. One hot, chippy please. That's the opening scene. I think you'd ever have one. Oh, but you're coming to roll.

You got a buddy. A buddy for life. But if you're now, buddy for life. Can we have buddies while wearing? The buddies or buddies? It is buddies. Bodies. Bodies. But we'll be buddies. Can we have buddies while wearing They buddies or buddies? It is buddies But we'll be buddies

Can we have buddies? It's all we'll be having Can we call ourselves when we do? Can we call ourselves buddy buddies? Yeah, buddy buddies Oh, I'm going to get us little t-shirts Little ones What to put on the roll

Let's hate them I'm saying what is wearing yummy little buddy T-shirts little ones What to put on the roll as we eat them I say which is wearing yummy little buddy is wearing a t-shirt You got to put it on and then take it off. So you get a little buddy buddy Does that buddy have diplomatic immunity? I? Have diplomatic immunity to your thumb do your tummy Let me in. I'm keeping living. We're in. That was inspired by you. Yeah, congratulations on that.

Speaking of London, I would like to thank someone from there. Wow. What a segue. Seem. You said I was a pro. I'm proven it. Well, I mean, you said you were a pro. No, Dave said, like a professional, and I agreed. She ran with it so far away.

I agreed and reiterated it. I would like to thank from London, Richard Lloyd, which is a real theater name. Yeah, Lloyd Weber, any relation. Richard Lloyd Weber. Richard Lloyd. Richard Lloyd. Lloyd.

Lloyd. The void. Lloyd. Lloyd. The void. The void. Oh, I reckon his right there place should be Mr. Sheffield the musical. Colin the void. The void with it. Mr. Sheffield Colin, the musical.

Colin the void. Like, he's great. It's set 15 years after the nanny. And things have really hit a voice. How's he's great. It's set 15 years after the nanny and things have really hit a voice. How's he? Yeah. He's lost his fortune. And now he has to star in a Broadway show, write, direct, and act in it, and sell the programs to rebuild his fortune to win back Miss Fine, who was left. She's not Mrs. Sheffield anymore. She's now Mrs. Andrew Lloyd Weber. Oh, she's, she's Humbert's.

She's Humbert's. Wow. Can you believe? I have kids, say twins or something. Well, now the stepdad is Andrew Lloyd Weber. Ever heard of him? He got an E got last week. Did he really?

Yeah. Him and, um, that three weeks ago, mate. Grow up. What's his name? John Legend and also Tim Rice at the same time. Tim Rice. It's curry rice. Tim Curry rice.

Because they all produced a musical together. Is it for Frank and Furter? You think of Tim Curry? Tim Curry. Tim Curry, Tim Rice. I always put my curry on my rice. Get my Tim Curry on my Tim Rice. Never seen just look anymore blankly.

Like, I didn't even tell him. She wasn't sure if he hated me, or just couldn't stand me. It was one of the two. Yeah, it's one of the two. I learned on pod in the Congo episode of primates that Tim Karyam and Tim Ross are two different people. I don't know who Tim Ross is.

Oh, he writes a lot of the, I don't know who that is.. He writes a lot of the... I don't know who that is. He's one of the Academy Award. He's one of the Academy Award of Golden Globe and Amy. I know what he is. He works with Andrew Lloyd Webber. He's the right-hand man. Is there, no, Elton John? No. No. Andrew Lloyd Webber. He wrote Jesus Christ Superstar, Aveda, Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor. He'sria Elton John work with Tim Curry No, Elton John did work with Tim Rice. They wrote the Lion King together Tim Curry is just the bad guy in the Macayles Navy remake starring Tom Arnold Tom Arnold

Wow rose Anne's ex Yeah, wow, it was also the guy who talked awesome powers through. He said, come on, show that to his boss. Anyway, all good memories. Yeah, so we've all achieved a lot now. It was also in true lies. Yes. Great film.

Anyway, that brings us to the end of this episode. I've lost Dave. Jess, do you want to put this baby home? You want me to wrap it up? Yeah, you're really good at telling people where to find us. Wrap it. Someone's listening right now, they're just, they're just drifting off to sleep.

They just do it in real. If you want to get in touch with Dugo on, you can do so on all the usual social media channels at Dugo on, pardon, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, we have a website, Maybe your channels at do go on pod on Instagram Facebook Twitter YouTube We have a website Which is do go on pod dot com Will you find tickets to live shows merch and you can suggest a topic and hey? Remember you could also email us at do go on pod at gmail.com and I'll get back to you within the next two months

I am sporadically on top of things. Is that a promise? Within two months. Yeah, easily. Basically, that means in two months time, you'll be writing 50 emails. Yeah, I forgot because I moved house and forgot like I mostly do the emails on my desktop and I didn't have a desk so I didn't set up my desktop computer. So I didn't do emails for like a couple months until the desk arrived until I set up my desk again. Shit. And then I was like, oh dear, I haven't done those emails.

Oh, dude. So I just did a big bulk. Anyway, that sounds painful. Yeah, it hurt. But that's what you can do. You tell her to do this boss. Yeah, I know that that was a bit of fun there. That, you know, very beautiful. You're just going to do it all again, aren't you? I just want to say that that was probably the best ever been delivered. So, no, no.

Great job. I thought you were going to be like, okay, that was cute. But now I'm going to give all that information to you. That was me going, it has to be like that every time from now on. No, no, no, Dave. They're just drifting off to sleep now. If you can just come back down, please. Okay, um, what if they're not?

What if they're driving? Don't put them to sleep. All right. Wake up! Somewhere in the middle. Somewhere in the middle. Okay, stay awake. Like normal is what we're, I reckon, just talk normally.

Be alert, but not alarmed. Yes. You can see something, say something. If you are something, do something. And if you want to something, just ask. Something. And keep your eyes peeled for book cheats. Obviously, the palm mates.

There's no S on the N there, my friends. You keep doing that, doesn't it? I do a soft T. Sounds like TS, but. It's his accent. A TS L, it's someone you should do. Maybe I will. That's all I was saying. The subtle hint. Thank you so T.S. Eliot. He's someone you should do. Maybe I will That's a lot of sounds the subtle head requesting a T.S. book cheat out on October 8th primates and maybe Have a look as already there check out and soon

Maybe you guys will phrase the bar. Yeah Definitely big time If you do do with T.S. Eliot and my ventriloquism podcast obviously coming out January 2020 we should sign off with Jess and your Ventriloquist saying, good bye. Anyway, ladies, thanks so much for tuning in. I was like, thank you and goodbye, but also thank goodbye is Jess and her puppet. Bye! My dummy father.

Yeah. And after being attacked by Artillery- The Rochester's- You did it, that's a new gesture. She just passed me a banana. Well within the three day. It's a new me. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network.

Visit Planet Broadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mites. I mean, if you won't, it's up to you. This episode is brought to you by Progressive. Most of you aren't just listening right now. You're driving, cleaning, and even exercising. But what if you could be saving money by switching to Progressive? Drivers who saved by switching saved nearly $750 on average, and auto customers qualify for an average of 7 discounts. Multitask right now. Quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive casualty and trans company

and affiliates, National Average 12 Month Savings of $744 by new customer surveyed, who saved with progressive between June 2022 and May 2023. Potential savings will vary. This counts not available in all safe and situations. Are you working way too hard for way too little? There's never been a better time to consider a career in IT. You could enjoy a recession-resistant career in a rewarding field, with plenty of growth opportunities and often flexible work environments.

Go to mycomputercareer.edu and take the free career evaluation. You could start your new career in months, not years. Take classes online or on campus and financial aid is available to qualified students including the GI Bill. Now is the time mycomputercareer.edu. you