Two In The Think Tank - 156 - The Shark Arm Murder

Episode Date: October 17, 2018

Well it's BLOCKBUSTERTOPHERGRACE ... FEST and this week we look at your #1 topic category - unsolved mystery! This story is wild and we were in a very silly mood so there are a lot of tangents also. A...nd a lot of references to Australian TV shows from the 90's. Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.com References: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Arm_casehttps://www.vice.com/en_au/article/qv3eyw/australias-weirdest-unsolved-murder-case-began-with-a-shark-coughing-up-a-human-armhttp://www.sydneycrimemuseum.com/crime-stories/the-shark-arm-murders/https://www.ranker.com/list/shark-arm-case-facts/trilby-beresfordhttps://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/38941743https://strangeremains.com/2018/07/23/the-shark-arm-murder-mystery-that-shocked-australia/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:02:19 Follow me wherever you may go. It's been the longest period in been the- It's been the- It's been the- It's been the- It's been the- It's been the- It's been the- It's been the- It's been the-
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Starting point is 00:02:50 That's interesting. Everyone, like most people around the world would have all of a sudden been getting it an hour earlier. Oh yeah. Because it's now valid savings here. The fun. Melbourne Victoria. That's where we are. Australia.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Oh, is that how you say it? That's how I say it. Really also. Hey, it's Blocktober month. Fest. Motherfuck's. Fest. That's all in the title. That was all in the title. It's Blocktober month. Motherfuck's Fest. Yes. Basically, it's such a famous event now. You can, you can just say it's block and people know what you're talking about. Yeah. What are you guys doing for block? Come around for my place for block.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yo, what's up? What's up? What's up? We're going to be for block this year. Are you visiting your parents or are you about you in town? No, I'm camping out. For block? For all of block.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Oh my god, back hair. Yeah. I love block camping. Yeah. It's good fun. We're now. This is this is a halfway point of block. We've made it halfway through block.
Starting point is 00:03:50 And that's the hardest half, the first half. It's all downhill for me. The sweet downhill ride. Love that. It's my favorite bit of hiking. Yeah. Is the bit where I get to go home. I love it when it's over.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Yeah, for me, Hiking's always over and it's great. Hiking's always over. Yeah, I started when it was over. Yeah. Anyway, for people, for the two, maybe three people on this earth that don't know what block is. Oh, you don't know what block is? I'm explain to those.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Do you mean? There's two people. Well, it is the biggest month of Dugo on podcasting of all time. Time, time, time. And we're doing the biggest, most popular topic types. And this week we're doing the most popular topic type as voted by you, the D-Listeners. Two weeks ago, we did the third most popular type of
Starting point is 00:04:45 topic which was quirky events from history. Last week we did the second most popular type of topic which was a serial killer. This week we're doing it. Yeah I'm allowed to speak two Dave. He just pointed at me. I don't care. This week we're talking. Here I go now. This week we're talking about what? Here I go now. Just... La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la. That is not... I'm so tired.
Starting point is 00:05:10 That is not talking, yes. You're an illustration of you talking whenever you want was singing. Yeah, I'll do that too. In the style of Babe the Pig. Yeah. Fowl, wow. This week we're doing the most popular type of topic ever, which I forget what it is and Jess will remind me, the next week we're doing the most requested ever topic and then to bring
Starting point is 00:05:31 home the month, we're playing our live Melbourne episode from Howler which we recorded on the weekend and it was sick. I assume we're recording this just before. Hey, hey, hey, don't give that away. Okay, I've been to the future. And it's all they talk about. Really? Yeah. What happened? Was there a fire? It was a new clear event. Oh, and how?
Starting point is 00:05:53 Yeah, they were there for it to it as ground zero of these days. That's interesting. Or growl as zero for some reason. Oh, good. Edit that. But in the future, they talk gibberish. Anyway, this is all fit in just fine. This week, we're doing the most popular top of topic ever, which is just what is it? Well, it kind of ruins it by letting you know at the start that it's a mystery.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Oh, so we put out like 20 different kinds of topics and about a quarter of the votes came in for mystery topic. But it was more specific than that. Oh my God. Can I just ask, did people think that it was like, here are 20 options, but the 21st option is a mystery option. We won't tell you what to do. That's why.
Starting point is 00:06:33 That's why people voted. They're like, oh, I don't know what that is. Okay. I love that. Or do people think they were voting for a mystery for mystery? If they were voting for like mystery box kind of thing, bravo to them. Well, because I'm never brave enough to do that.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Take a chance on the thingy. Like no, I'll order the same thing I always do. Thank you. Yeah, knocky carbonara, thank you very much. Ha ha ha ha. Unsold mysteries, what you were alluding to, Matt. Great. Is that all it was? No wonder that was so popular.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And again, kind of, I purposely left that word out so that there was some kind of feeling of... We'll feel free to edit all of this. No. Remember you're in control. Oh, okay, this is my fault. I reckon we might solve it that. Jerkkin?
Starting point is 00:07:17 Matt and I are pretty good detectives. Put the facts to us. This is a really fun story, actually. I'm really excited about this. When I had a lot of fun reading this, that's my headphones you're turning down for the second time now. Thank you. That's a good level for me. Thank you. I'm very excited. Yeah, it's a really fun story. And as per usual, I don't have a question, but I thought we could actually do something a little bit
Starting point is 00:07:38 different. No. To help guess the title. Okay. Right. So it's a three-worder. It's a the, the, the, the, it's a four-worder. The, the, the, that doesn't get. Okay. But I'm gonna put it in here. So now it's four, the, the, the, the, right. So it's, it's, okay. So all you need to do is name an animal and a body part.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Beaver leg. No. Oh, animal body part. Not necessarily the body part of an animal. I'm saying it's an animal, first word, second word, body part of a human. Horse penis. I got it. You went straight to horse penis.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I wasn't going to say horse hoove, but then you said it wasn't that necessary Linked up to that animal. No. What is horse right? No draft penis. No is penis right? I assume penis is right Penis is incorrect. So penis is right. Think more of a water dwelling animal hippo Not wow, okay, no ocean. Yeah, no dolphin getting closer closer no Not a wolf in turtle no piranha scarier Shark Boom we've got the animal to this NATO. We're kind of Body part. Yeah, it's made or not. Where's it point to your NATO?
Starting point is 00:09:01 He played your penis again I'm pointing to my rock out abs. You call him your NATO. Yeah. Check out my NATO. It's going to go down to the local pool, show off my NATO. Yeah, I'm working out on my NATO today. So that's the old John.
Starting point is 00:09:20 No, no, NATO is not the body part. The shark back. No. Shark leg. No. In a little bit closer. No, no, no, no Boob's. Shark arms. Shark arms. Shark the Shark arms. Boob. Shark arms. Shark arms.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Boob. Shark arms. Is that a pub? The Shark um, murdered. Ooh. Wait, what? That doesn't make any sense. Or does it?
Starting point is 00:10:00 Well, I don't think any of us saw those coming. Mystery. This has been suggested only once, interestingly, by John Olderman. And I put it, I put quite a few unsolved mysteries to the Patreons and said, what do you want to hear about? A few of them would kind of grow some kind of murders, which I thought this is what they're going to love.
Starting point is 00:10:24 This is what they're going to go for. But they went with a different kind of grow some kind of murders, which I thought this is what they're going to love. This is what they're going to go for. But they went with a different kind of murder. They went for a shark arm murder. Which is a really interesting and like a really fun story. Can I have an early crack at solving this one? Absolutely. Obviously there's not a lot to go on so far. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I think it was John Oldman. You think he... He's the only one who suggested it. There obviously there's not a lot to go on so far. Okay. I think it was John Oldman. You think he... He's the only one who suggested it. I think he's trying to hide in plain sight. Um, what are you accusing him of though? Well this shot, murders. And I think he's,
Starting point is 00:10:58 because he's gonna say, excuse me, Judge and jury. Is he from Australia? I think so. Was Is he from Australia? I think so. Was that character from Australia? I'm Judge. If I did it, do you think I would have suggested as a topic for Dugo on?
Starting point is 00:11:14 I don't think so. That is an air time. Judy. Judy. Has that person had their voice altered? Judge and Judy. Are they in the witness protection program? Ah, sure. And Johnny is Australian, yes. Yeah, that's what I'm doing to post Ulta. Judging Judy. Are they in the witness protection program? Ah, sure.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And Johnny is Australian, yes. Yeah, that's what I'm doing in accent. Is this mystery Australian? That's why you're doing, it is Australian. Ah, where are he's from? Australia, yes. Yes, yeah. But no, he's from Victoria.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And this is set in Sydney, Australia. Oh, that is quite a long drive. That's my way. He could have got up there and back. I literally just went up and back. I got back yesterday. Dave. Oh, how convenient. That is very convenient.
Starting point is 00:11:54 It was also in the 1930s. I'm going to change my guess. Ah, a good decade. We should get into this. It wasn't though. It wasn't a good decade. And as I'll explain in my very first sentence. The roaring 30s. April 1935.
Starting point is 00:12:08 It was a trying time in Sydney. The Great Depression was in full swing and people was struggling. Matt, come on. You fucking idiot. In-sensitive. Come on. It was just, it was a good time for me personally, that's all. Why? I love seeing people struggle He loves exporting the working class does sound like you that's how Matt Just love seeing people struggle one time I was trying to carry a really heavy suitcase up some stairs
Starting point is 00:12:35 And he just sat at the top grab the bag of popcorn Through that you did and I'm allergic yeah, definitely allergic he was trying to get it in my mouth He dodged it real good. Thank you did. And I'm allergic. Yeah. Definitely allergic. He was trying to get it in my mouth. He dodged it real good. Thank you. She's caught by closing your mouth. Yeah. Gosh, you're good. She's doing it.
Starting point is 00:12:52 She thinks of everything. So it's the great depression. There are very few attractions or activities that people could do. I dubbed it that. People would just say, no, this is water depression. I'm like, no, this is a great depression. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And it's stuff. Silver line., this is a great depression. Yeah. And it's stuck. Silver lining. You're a real positive guy. Yeah. And that's nice. Thank you. So there weren't many things for people to do to entertain themselves back in the day
Starting point is 00:13:15 because great depression. Nobody had any money. Not a lot of resources, but there was one attraction at the KUJI Aquarium. I mean, there were probably others, but there was definitely the KUJI Aquarium. I mean, there were probably others, but there was definitely the KUji Aquarium. Everyone at Sydney went there. There was only one and it was the KUji Aquarium.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Was that free? I don't know if it was free. It was like a aquarium in Bards. So I think it was like a... You did not want to get in the wrong boat. Yeah, I think it was like a like a local pool kind of thing as well. I don't know a lot of information on it.
Starting point is 00:13:43 A few different resources made it sound a little bit different. But anyway, it had been open since the late 1800s, 1887 to be exact. But with the recession and it being nearly 50 years old, it needed a little bit of life injected back into it to get patrons walking through those doors. And the proprietor at the time was a man called either Charlie or Bert Hobson. Oh, let's make it call Bert. Bert, maybe Charlie was his son because Charlie Bert, and his son, set out into the harbor
Starting point is 00:14:12 to find a new star for their 25 by 15 meter pool. They were successful and they came back with a four meter tiger shark. Where did they go and get their shark? Where into the harbor. Was that, that's like a cross braid of a tiger get their shark? Where into the harbour. Was that like a crossbreed of a tiger and a shark? Yeah, you do not want to see them mate. I think I do.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Yeah, I do. Big time. How would they do it? Well, obviously the shark's on top. Tiger would have to get in the water because it can still, as long as it keeps its head above water, the shark can't get out of the water. Snorkel. The most sexy. If the shark's going down on the target, then the target only needs to be half in the water.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Think about it. Think about it. I'm so sick about it. Are you going to ask me later to edit that out? Go with your heart. Anyway, so they just want a quarter shark. They want a quarter shark and put it in their aquarium. It was the 30s days.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I love it. It's so good. So they call it a shark. Shark attacks had been on the rise that year. And this was giving the public a chance to see one of these man-eaters up close. And that presented a good chance of saving their business. So it attracted quite a lot of people to come and have a look at the shark.
Starting point is 00:15:34 But within a week, the tiger shark was appearing to be quite ill. And one day in front of a small crowd of spectators, the shark vomited. And among the contents of its stomachs were a rat, a bird, and a human arm. Ha ha ha ha. I read a couple of different things. One source speculated that this tiger shark had eaten a smaller shark and that smaller shark had eaten the arm.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And that arm had eaten a rat. Ha ha ha. To ducking. No, that's a to-docking. So there's all these people looking at this shark and it throws up an arm. How crazy is that? I would have liked it even more. I don't because I don't think it's surely it was in the time when, you know, we go to the aquarium now and you're sort of like,
Starting point is 00:16:28 you're looking at them through glass tanks, like you're lower, so you can sort of see them swimming around. I think it's just like the sharks in the pool, kind of thing. It sounds like that they're in the 25 meter lap pool. Yeah, so you're just like standing on the edge of a pool, looking at a shark. They've like roped off one lane. It's like elderly people. It's like chlorinated water. The slow lanes pool looking at a shark. They've like roped off one lane. It's like elderly people.
Starting point is 00:16:45 The chlorinated water. The slow lanes are going past a shark. But the shark abays the rules. Yeah, of course. I mean, go out of the lines. The penguins in the spa. The flip is up on the side kicking back. Yeah, but they're in the penguin zone.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yeah, the bottom's got a cigar. Yeah. It's a really good time. So, the volume's got a cigar. Yeah, it's a really good time So, volume's up and on like how much arm are we talking from like elbow down? Oh forearm yeah, and hand it's pretty What what was the hand doing shockers? obviously yeah Shackers. Oh, hello Who's going? That, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, I don't know about you guys. I know my brother in particular is a silent vomiter.
Starting point is 00:17:45 He's so good at having a strategic spew and then just getting on with his night. I am like tears running down my face, screaming, heaving. I'm so loud too. I'm so loud. So loud. Calling out help. And it helped. It helped me because I vomit so here, because I vomit so rarely,
Starting point is 00:18:05 and I hate it so much. Mine's only morning after a big night. Real big night, or probably a big day of night. And I, or I'm gonna send a bit like Al Pacino, like a bit of like a, wha! wha! wha!
Starting point is 00:18:17 wha! wha! wha! wha! wha! wha! Great, long-blood we covered that. Back to bed. That's fear, there's no better feeling than those few minutes afterwards. Great, long-blood we covered that.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Back to bed. That's fear, there's no better feeling than those few minutes afterwards. Oh man. The relief. For a moment, the time I threw up here. Oh yeah. That half an hour afterwards, gold. But then it starts building up again, which is pretty much the same thing.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah, and you know it's coming back. You feel it coming back. And I know we thought I was hungover. I'm fairly confident I was very sick. That wasn't good. Anyway, I'm fine now. Can I ask a question? Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And I only just sort of this then. The shark arm. Yeah. Obviously that's weird. But like, you can see how a shark could eat an arm, because human swim. How about the rat? Yeah, the rat doesn't make much sense. It's a rat.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Get into the middle of the ocean. Don't let a shark eat the rat. The rat swim? You can get water rats. That's true. Like that TV show. That's true. Play school.
Starting point is 00:19:09 That's the only guy I was on, though. That was where my brain was going. That is a very niche. Yeah. Hard to understand. Well, basically incomprehensible. Attempted a joke. I don't think, anyway, I don't think I swim in open water with a shark with it.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Yeah, not far enough out that it would encounter a shark. There's the real mystery here where the rat came from. That is exactly the mystery of this report. I don't reckon I've solved it. Well spotted Dave, okay? Jay Lagaya. Two words. That rat.
Starting point is 00:19:45 There we go. Listeners might know him as some guy in Star Wars. Jay Lagaya. Two words. That rat. Oh, interesting. Listeners might know him as some guy in Star Wars. Yeah. Just should be a huge star. These got eight children. That's too many. Impressive. But the question is, Jay Lagaya.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Huh? No. Does he know what it's called? I thought the question was, Jay Lagaya? It was going to be the real estate made even less since than Matt's water rights show. And that's hard to do. Okay, so the shark, the aquarium in front of a bunch of people, it's thrown up. So some police officers attended from Randall Police Station and the limb was pulled out of
Starting point is 00:20:23 the water. It was a left arm. Oh. Oh. With the length of rope attached to the wrist. Oh, that's not good. Like it had been dangled in. That makes it sound like, yeah, that makes it sound like it was a bit of bait.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Like people have gone fishing with an arm. Or a whole body. Yeah, well. And I just ripped the whole thing down. And on the inside forearm, there was a 20 centimeter high tattoo of two figures boxing. You've got a tattoo. On my right arm. Oh, thank God.
Starting point is 00:20:52 You love boxing. No. You're missing your left arm? No, it's right here. Oh, okay, sorry. I'm looking at the table. And this is my tattoo on my right wrist. Oh, it is too.
Starting point is 00:21:03 No, I was going to say, I'm looking at you the wrong way around. I'm like, no, it's on your left side. But yeah, you've got me. No, I'm facing you. But it's on my left. Is it my arm? Am I dead? Am I in heaven?
Starting point is 00:21:17 Is this heaven? Oh my God, imagine if this was heaven. Feels like it. Stop it! Every day. I was fishing for that because I wanted you to say first. Fishing with an arm on a rope. Wait, that reminds me of the time I died.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Okay, so it's a left arm. There's a tattoo on it. The police were convinced the shark arm incident was a prank, either by the staff themselves or by local medical students that had too much time on their hands and access to spare cadaver parts. I mean, we have to remember this is a time when no one's having any fun apparently. So you gotta chop up an arm, feed it to a shark,
Starting point is 00:21:55 you know, make the most of your time. You make your own fun, life gives you a lemon. You find an arm, chuck it in a pool. I like to think that's just lazy cops and that's what they say for every crump. Yeah, I reckon someone just pranking on. No, my shop has been robbed. There he's running away right now.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Yeah, just as medical students have been robbed. Yeah, and I'll turn around and you'll squirt me with a water pistol. Been here before. Anyway, have a great day. Ruffles their hair and leaves. I'm ruined. Please stop them. All righty.
Starting point is 00:22:27 All right, buddy. You kids keep me young. So they're thinking, they're kind of under reacting, I suppose. They're like, nah, this is just a prank. But then things grew a little bit more frantic when the coroner reported that the arm hadn't been bitten off by the shark at all. But actually, severed by a blunt knife in a suspected act of foul play.
Starting point is 00:22:51 To me that lines up more with the cadaver, someone cutting off an arm. Yeah, true. What do you think in the cops' world, have they got a whole body dangled in one arm? That's the prank. The sharks bitten it off and they've taken the, and now arms body back to medical school. Obviously, that would be the prank, but it looks like someone's cut it off with a medical mark. Well, that just doesn't add up at all.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Actually, that shot might have been rubbed after all. So the police, we went we'll prank and They're all there The police had two main questions Whose arm was it? This is great detective work. What's the follow-up? Hell bloody hell the men are the sharks dubbing All right, that third question Say question what's for lunch? I'm hungry.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Flike? Get busy eating, get busy diet. Get busy eating. I can live my life that way. That sounds like heaven. Should we get matching tattoos? I'm very up for matching tattoos. I was so, I'm very tired today because I haven't had a lot of sleep as I never do on this day of the week. And earlier, I was craving chocolate so I ordered churros on Uber Eats. Just some churros. Oh.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And a little chocolate dipping sauce. And was it good? So fucking good. I ordered it. So happy. I ordered dessert for the first time, two weeks ago. It was. You mean the first time on Uber Eats?
Starting point is 00:24:29 I've never cro-nut. Oh, you just felt like a little something, a little sweet. So I had a little, yeah. Little sweety? Because I'm having one cheek day a week, and it was getting very close to midnight. Oh, and you got to get it. I'm like, what a waste of day, I had not anything.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Yeah. So yeah, I had a midnight of day, I'm not eating. Yeah. So yeah, I had a midnight, midnight croin art. Yeah, good. It was delicious. I've never had one before. Yeah, they're pretty good. I think the crore, it means croissant. Correct.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And the nut means pistachios. Hmm. Who do they? Who do they? Oh, it's a start. No, croissanted doughnut. What? Oh.
Starting point is 00:25:08 There wasn't anything pistachio about it at all, now that you mention it. I've been living a lie. Sorry guys, I gotta go. I got some phone calls to make about the crime art.. Everyone, please call your loved ones. Let them know. The police had two main questions. Number one, what the hell is a Crohnarts? Number two, how did it get inside of Sharks' stomach? Okay, so the questions are, who's arm in it? Is it how did it get in the Sharks' tongue?
Starting point is 00:25:42 The press, as they do, took off with the story and were reporting a few different things. They blamed exhibit tampering or a genuine shark attack. Because as I mentioned before, shark attacks were kind of high, they were on the rise that particular year. So this is like in April, so in that previous summer, there'd been quite a few shark attacks.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Forensic technology was obviously fairly limited in the 1930s, but new fingerprint technology, fingerprint technology. What, you called yourself up online? I don't know, I thought I'd get in before you did. Fingerprint. Fingerprint. New fingerprint technology was able to link the arm to a man named Jim Smith,
Starting point is 00:26:21 a criminal, and police informant. So here's a little bit about Jim Smith, a criminal and police informant. So here's a little bit about Jim Smith. I'm having so much fun, by the way. Are you having fun? Yeah, and I also got a pair of respect to the 1930s cops who, back in the day, rather than running a fingerprint scan, had to actually compare the fingerprints
Starting point is 00:26:38 to like a database. Yeah, they're not just thinking of having to do that. Loop, loop, yep, yep, not a little bit different. Next, loop, loop, yep, yep, now a little bit different. Next, loop, loop, like, can you imagine how hard it would be? Easy, put it on tracing paper, hold them up. That may have been how they did it. I should have been a cop in the 30s.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I shouldn't have been. Couldn't do it now. Too much bloody paperwork. Too much bloody IT. What am I, why don't I want to be a copper of bloody IT? I teak and salt and roll. Yeah, what am I? Bloody I go, I'll get me get the iPad out and solve a murder. I want to solve you bloody, bloody I go and see. I just want to get a cop or a buddy, I teak and salt. Yeah, what am I? Buddy, I got all the way to the iPad out and solve a murder.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I want to show you bloody, bloody, bad. I just want to get out there on the beat. Yeah, I just want to hit the beat. I want to hit the beat. Honestly. Oh, no, honestly. I wish you hit the beat. Can Dave come?
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah. I'm more of an IT kind of guy. Yeah, that sounds better, right? So Jim Smith was an English-born former boxer, hence the boxer's tattoo, who lived in Belman with his wife and child. He'd tried his hand at being a pro boxer, but once it became obvious that he didn't have the skill to make it.
Starting point is 00:27:36 He turned to other work to support his family. He'd managed a billiard saloon, a CD type of place where crime flourished. And it was either there or at a different Tatezal's club where he had worked, that he met a major criminal name, a major criminal named Reginald Holmes. Regihom. Regihom. It's good name, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:28:03 This is a quite out of a really good article that I've probably based a lot of this report on because it's so thorough. And it says, Reginald Holmes was a man of many titles. In addition to being a well-loved family man, a respected member of society, who came back to the community with church donations,
Starting point is 00:28:21 he was an active heroine smuggler and insurance and business fraud mastermind. That sounds great. You started out standing really good. Yeah. Which parts did you like? Well, I found him a bit dowly early. Spectre member of society, church donations. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Drew. Hero and dealer. Oh, hello. Morning. Oh, hello. Morning. Heroine Smuggler, an insurance and business fraud mastermind. Love it. He employed men to drive fast motorboats out to sea and collect packages of cocaine and other goods thrown overboard by semen on incoming ships. This is starting to sound like an episode of water rats.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Do you think? Jaila! Jaila! Do you think Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay?
Starting point is 00:29:11 Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay?
Starting point is 00:29:19 Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? Jay? So, he's there. Who's Felpsie? Who's Felpsie? Who's Felpsie? Michael Phelps?
Starting point is 00:29:30 I didn't watch water rest. Is it Michael Phelps? No, it's Peter Phelps. Michael Phelps is a swimmer. Yeah, and he can add to him a freaking shark, Jess. So, how good would he be in this story? Well, Peter Phelps is a guy. No, that's swimming shark. Peter Phelps is the guy. It's no swimming shark. Peter Phelps from Stinging. Oh, Peter Phelps, yes, okay. He's also the guy at the end of,
Starting point is 00:29:46 what was the, what was the canna Reeves surfing crime movie? Where he goes, you're tall. Give me two. Give me two. Min-ball. Min-ball. Point break. Point break.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Point break. At the end, Peter Phelps is there and he's on the beach. Because he's Aussie, yeah, he goes, wow, I can't remember what he's lying. It's just something like, oh, that's crazy, swell out there, it'll die. They made it like their director's like, he said it normally in his Australian accent.
Starting point is 00:30:13 They're like, no, no, do it more Australian. So he ends up in film. It's like, it's like he sounds like an American doing an Australian accent. He was also in the first season of Baywatch. He was too. The first ever one. Oh, he was in the first ever. Yeah,. He was too. He was in the first ever. Yeah, man, that guy.
Starting point is 00:30:27 What has he done? Am I thinking of the right person? Is he bald now? No. I'm not thinking of Gary Sweat. I love Gary Sweat. This is Feltzi. I've got his...
Starting point is 00:30:38 I think I'm thinking of the right person, but show me. Okay, now I'll... I'll think of him. He's been bit 25 years harder. Yeah, oh, he's already a bit of a me. Okay, now I was thinking of him. Matthew, but 25 years harder. Yeah, oh, he's already a bit of a bit. No, he's not at all. 25 years harder. Yeah, got it, okay.
Starting point is 00:30:52 So can I move on, are you both one of them in to Google, Peter Phelps? I've got a photo of Phelps here, and in the background there's a photo. I think I've Gary's waiting to ball-score but we're talking about. Yes. I love Gary's.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Of course he is. I want to find his line. No, you can keep going. Oh, may I? Please do go on. Thank you so much. Okay, so yes, he's got men going out to collect parcels being dropped off by incoming ships. And he made more money from this and his other criminal activities than from boat building. That was his primary job, like the public. Sure, like I work in construction. Exactly. He was a waste management. He was a boat builder. No, boat builder. And he did build boats, but he made more money by doing all these criminal activities. I'm sure he was paying tax on everything. Of course he was.
Starting point is 00:31:46 To clear all income. Yeah. He employed Jim Smith to carry out different tasks like cheating builders out of their building supplies and over ensuring property before the property would then mysteriously burn down. All right, this is not as nice. So cheating builders out of the...
Starting point is 00:32:06 Out of their goods? But were they bad builders? No, like Bob the Builder. I just wanted to fix things. Is Bob the Builder that good? Yes. He can. Doesn't answer the question though, does it, Jess?
Starting point is 00:32:23 So... People, Bob was so quick to answer if he could. He never answered if he should. Should I fix it? No! No, don't worry about it. That's not yours. Bob the Builder.
Starting point is 00:32:38 What are you doing on my property? Fix it! Bob the Builder. That's not yours. Go out of here, Bob. You can see your kids on every second Sunday, your dog. I'll be back. Judges order. I'll go plum this on sweet and I'll be back. He's a plum now as well. I've got to take the work when I can, yes. No, you're not wrong. I'm a lonely lonely man.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Okay, Bob. I lost my license. Oh, dear, what license? Drink driving. Oh, okay. It's all falling apart. You lost your drink driving license? Yeah, can you believe it?
Starting point is 00:33:15 I can't afford to get it back. I lost everything in a game of poker with a seagull. That seagull took everything. Even my Rolex. I used to be a rola. Oh no. Flashbacks are coming back. Oh, take it. Just take it all. Leave me some dignity And the drugs come back to finish me off Don't shit on me as well What I'm not good enough for your shit. I don't deserve it. Yeah isn't it good luck if a bird cheats on you?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Oh come back bird. Shit on me please. I'm so cold. I'm pleased. Anything for warmth. How do we get here? Oh, that's right, he's ripping off builders. And he's been... He's been spending down in two houses. I'm sorry, everybody. It hurts. This is definitely one for the fans of tangents.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I'm only up to page three of six. Oh great. Oh Bob. Anyway, and that will do a report on Bob another day. So... Does it get any lower than begging a sea-girlver shit on you? I just want to feel something. That is absolute rotten. Please!
Starting point is 00:35:15 And the sea-girlver, like, you know that, and I was like, you gotta know when to follow. Okay. I don't know when to follow them. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That Reginald, he under the... Reginald Holmes is the... The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes.
Starting point is 00:35:51 The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes.
Starting point is 00:35:59 The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. The Rotten Homes. making money from jobs he completed for Reginald Holmes, but once scam in 1934 though saw their relationship suffer. Holmes had over-insured a pleasure cruiser. Oh, was that some sort of sex boat? Yeah, it's a sex boat and it was called Pathfinder. Sexy name. Oh, I find my path. You can sink my path, finder.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Oh, I mean, someone's like, I'm sorry. They're like a right into it and to that point, I'm not quite following. Sorry, what do you want me to do? I'm not sure, you mean, but I'm just to confirm, you're here for the sex group. Yeah, that's right, anchor's away. All right, we're back in school.
Starting point is 00:36:45 All right. Where's your rudder? Sorry. Sorry, I'm not sure. Are you? I'm just going to sex cruise. Like the human sex rudder. Are we going to do it on this boat or not?
Starting point is 00:36:58 Yeah, of course. Yeah. All right. Let me just spin the wheel. Sorry. I'm not kidding. You're really taking me out of it. Sorry. Have you Alright. Let me just spin the wheel. Sorry. I'm not getting it. You're really taking me out of it.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Sorry. Have you ever been on a boat before? I'm going to need to talk through a few things. Yeah. Loob me up. Swap my poop deck. Oh, fuck. Let me just put this boat into gear.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Whoa, what? No. Sorry. I'm going to have to ask you to leave. No. We are going to have to leave. No. We are going to have to leave. Oh, fuck. Let me just put this boat into gear. What, what, no. I'm sorry. You, I'm gonna have to ask you to leave.
Starting point is 00:37:29 We are in the middle of the ocean, but you will have to leave. Step on. Some of us want to have an orgy. You're not invited anymore. You may wait outside. In the ocean. Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Starting point is 00:37:43 You may wait in the ocean until we are done. You may wait in the ocean. I like this is an enormous boat. Surely I can just sit out here. No. You can be inside having your orgy. No, no, I'll know you're there. Clearly you don't understand boats. You're real. Or orgy's. They take up a lot of room. Anyway, a pleasure crumb. Pleasure cruiser, known to pathfinder.
Starting point is 00:38:04 So this is Holmes' boat. He over-insured it. And sadly, the boat sank. Can you imagine his luck? Oh, pretty good, pretty good luck. Well, I mean, he's lost his boat, Dave, but I suppose if you mean that he's got insurance on it, and that's last one.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Sorry, it's lucky he's got insurance, that's all right. Yes, lucky he was smart enough and had the money to get insurance. Yes. Big fancy boat. It's sweet. You know, if you got a big boat, you shouldn't sure it.
Starting point is 00:38:31 That's our tagline. I insure everything. Really? Every single thing. Really? Insured. So if maybe if this water bottle had a little accident, you'd be cool with it?
Starting point is 00:38:43 I'd be covered. I wouldn't be cool with it. It's my favorite water bottle. Okay. I got that in a fending machine. Aluminum. I was gonna pretend that you've got another brand,
Starting point is 00:38:51 an overwhelmingly friendly water bottle. Sorry, just to confirm you guys here for the sex cruise. Oh. Yeah, can you hear us doing for- I'm gonna, if anything, if anything was gonna happen to that water bottle.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Oh yeah. Oh right. What's gonna happen to it? That's Oh yeah. Oh right. What's going to happen to it? That's fun. Yeah. It's fun out together. So, I got a little too into that. I knocked it off the table. Oh.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Oh. Oh, we got ourselves a bad boy. I just doubted it all. Oh yeah. I do a lot of shoulder movement. A lot of shoulder. Okay. Well, I probably work out of shoulder movement. A lot of shoulder. Mm-hmm. Okay. A lot of eyebrow work, happy with you.
Starting point is 00:39:27 You speak in my language. The language of love. Yeah, Dave's waiting in the water for sure. 100%. Hey guys, do it up there. What's going on? It's getting pretty cold. Did you knock that bottle off the table?
Starting point is 00:39:39 Yeah, thank you, dude. Knocked the bottle off the me, Belle. Anyway. So the bottle off for me, Bail. LAUGHTER Anyway. So the boat has sunk. He has insurance. Thank God. When he went to file his insurance paperwork though, the deconstruction, that's not right.
Starting point is 00:39:56 What were I looking for? The boat... No longer being with us. The boat's demise? Yeah, sure. The demise of the boat had been deemed as suspicious by the police. And Holmes was left out of pocket. It appears Smith had snitched to the police.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Oh! And this made Holmes suspicious of his long time employee. But it's all speculation at this point, we don't know. We don't. There's another name we need to know as well. And that name is Patrick Brady. He was a long-time friend of Jim Smith and also played the insurance fraud game.
Starting point is 00:40:35 There's another nice little quote here. It says, despite coming from an honest, hardworking family, he straight away from this lifestyle to mingle with the criminal underworld. After discovering he had a talent for forging the signatures of generals in World War One. His talent brought him to Sydney Harbour where he worked with Smith and Holmes, a perfect criminal trio. Is it specifically generals?
Starting point is 00:40:56 He's just good at forging. Okay, I thought you could only forge a general signature. Because he was in the, he did serve. So when he was serving in the, in World War One, he figured out he could forge signatures of generals, which just then led him to realize he had a skill for forging in general. Love it. In general. Thank you. And due to the great depression hitting Australia quite hard, Holmes was losing money and falling behind in his finances now. And to make things worse, Smith started to demand more money
Starting point is 00:41:29 for the work he was doing and even threatened to blackmail Holmes. Motie. Ah. One night, Jim Smith told his wife that he was going fishing. A few nights later, when he hadn't returned, she began to worry. I love the olden days so much.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Usually, these fishing sessions go for days, but nights. Multiple nights. Even then, like, sure, leave early in the morning, and then maybe we'll be back in the Avo late evening. But after you haven't come back the next night, I reckon I'm going to be alarmed. Unless you've specifically said, but maybe this is just a reflection of my own relationship and our impeccable communication skills. Right. Or maybe I know he's where abouts it all times.
Starting point is 00:42:15 What time you were in? Put a tracker in him. In him. You put a tracker in him. In him. Oh, up the boat, we turn all over. Yeah, of course, up the boat. That's where you put the tracker up the boat. That's the most accurate place to track. His boat's always with him, isn't it? It is. I got to put in these wall. He always leaves it around. Great antenna too. They get that signal out. That big beautiful boat. I wear these at all times. You want to check? I'll open up my laptop. Check where he is. Yeah, I'm buttfunded.com. Probably a real website. Yeah, probably. Anyway, so she begins to worry after a few nights.
Starting point is 00:42:50 But yeah, again, it doesn't really seem like she was worried because she didn't, I don't think she reported it to police or anything like that. Just kind of felt a bit agitated herself. One night, she received a mysterious phone call from a man. And that man said, don't worry, Jimmy will be home in three days' time. But Jimmy never made it home.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Okay. So what a weird phone call. An oddly specific. If you had taken someone, murdered them. It's already been a few days. Why do you then call and say, don't worry, he'll be home in a few days. I just buyin' a little bit more time to get rid of the body, I guess. I reckon it's a ransom gone wrong. They're on the phone. I'll take this, no worries. He'll be back in three days.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Bebe, bebe. Did you ask them for the money? Oh, shit. That you ask them for the money? Oh, shit. That was my last quarter. I just told them we're gonna give him back in three days for free. Damn.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And that guy just, he would have killed there as well. Yeah, he got killed. He got real killed. And they call his wife. He's been dead for three days. Wait, no. Oh, you got to keep my life. Another death. That's a bloody bloodbath.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Yeah, it was a mess. You thought last week that was a bloodbath. This is next level. It's a blood-buddy spa bar. It's a blood pool. A blood pool. Get that checked out, please Jess. Just a confirmed no blood in my poo. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Thank you. Anyway. Jess is Dr. Lissons of this. He does. My gut says how they communicate. He checks it. You know how I'm often sick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:39 He just finds it's easier now to keep track of me. He's like, oh, she sounds like her throat's clear. I literally got tonsilitis last week. Not having a good run. Anyway. Police investigation. So the police had the arm of Jim Smith, but not much else to work with. They knew that Jim Smith was last seen drinking and playing cards with Patrick Brady at the Cecil Hotel. But hangouts like these were fairly commonplace for him. That's nothing out of the ordinary. It's kind of like saying that the last place we were seeing was... Strip us.
Starting point is 00:45:11 We go every Monday afternoon. Every Monday afternoon like Cockwarek. It's cheap Monday. We like the chicken wings. Five for a dollar. Have you said no? I think you were full. What's happening today for space? Very animated.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I love it. It's called acting. I love it, Matt. Thank you. Take a note. I love it. You were very quiet on that bit because you don't. I was taking notes.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Oh, I can't Oh, did you get any notes from me too? Anything I could. Yeah. What'd you learn from me? Just be in it. To win a present. Yeah. Just let the role wash over you. Yeah. Listen, react. Don't recite lines. React, don't recite lines. Be the lines, live the lines. Is that Al Pacino again? Live the line. Wow, yeah, the restriction there is very good. I can see the Italian in you now.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Yeah. I can never see that before. One ice Swiss Italian. Yeah, I know, you say it all the time and I've never seen it and there it is right there. Yes! Of the Northern Italians, that's where I got the fair skin. Also the 80% Irish and Scottish ancestry.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Yeah, that probably helps mostly, yeah. Somebody thought I was Italian yesterday. Oh, you lucky, duck. I was like, thank you. How did that come up? She goes, you look like someone I work with. Are you Italian? Well, I said, nah. Mrs. Is, you look like someone I work with. Are you Italian? Well, I said, nah.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Is this, do you work in Italy? Yeah. Like, is this a stranger? No, like a family friend of a friend kind of thing. Yeah, not somebody I know well. Do you know that's always a second follow up question? What are you having for lunch? Are you Italian?
Starting point is 00:47:03 No matter what, it's always... She's got a great fact about Italy and she just wants to stick it out. Yeah, no, she's been and she's got photos. She knows a few key phrases. Yeah, ah, va bene. She's like a... Shape like a boot.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Yeah. Do you know that? Yeah, I've taken a bowl. Venice. Sicily is the bowl. A lot of water. I've got some photos. Hang on, let me find them on my iPad.
Starting point is 00:47:32 My full size iPad I carry around because I'm middle aged. She calls it a full size iPad too. It's weird that she does that. But I was like, thank you, but no, I'm very pasty. Oh, I wish. And she's like just pulling. She's already got the iPad. Yeah, she's putting it back in like, I don't have any pictures from Ireland. Give me five minutes. Anyway, so yeah, they've been drinking and playing cards at a pub, but that's pretty normal. Nothing that big. They decided they might pursue
Starting point is 00:48:12 Patrick Brady as a lead. And they found that he had rented a small cottage in Cranulla at the time of Smith's disappearance on Tulumbi Street, if you're familiar with the Cranulla area. I'm not, but go on. Thank you. Police began investigating Brady. They spoke to a couple of different taxi drivers who gave details about trips Brady had taken in the day's prior to him renting the cottage because he'd rented this little place in Crenella. So they're like what's he been up to in the days leading up to that. One of the last trips he took blindsided investigators with a shocking new lead. He went to the home of Reginald Holmes. This episode is brought to you by Progressive.
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Starting point is 00:50:59 So they swooped, they're like, oh, isn't that interesting? I don't know about Jim May have been snitching on hers. So he has a reason to get rid of it. So they nabbed Brody on completely unrelated charges of forgery, which as we know, he was quite good at. Generally good at. Eh?
Starting point is 00:51:17 Eh? Ta-da. Ta-da. What do you want? A jug. Apparently, they interrogated him for about six hours during which time he remained steadfast and wouldn't give them any information. You know, I'll get nothing out of me, you dirty cops.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Oh, I can't control him when he's like this. You're better telling him everything you know. Hang on, what are you the bad cop before? Shut up! Wait, when are you the suspect? Do you reckon I can't quite tell if Dave would be good or bad cop? Because he can get angry and it's fun. But also I'm not scared of him at all.
Starting point is 00:51:55 I'm not scared of you though, either. Oh my god, I'm bad cop. Yeah, you're the bad cop. I'm the scary one. I can be scary. Yeah, I know you're the bad cop. I'm the scary one. I can be scary. You scared? You intimidated?. You're going to be scary. You're intimidated.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Yeah, some physically. I'm literally pissing my pants. Oh my god, Matt, there was a bathroom outside. Please go. It's too late. You pissed your pants. My batter has been emptied. Again. To completion. It's a weird way of putting it. You let it all go. Yes. Stop half way. No. Oh, yeah, because that's easy to do. This has got a big valve dive. It's on or off.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Do you often stop half way through a P and say, I'll save the rest of the way? Yeah, I like to challenge myself. Okay. You just want multiple trips away from your desk. So you're like, no, half now, half way. I like to deposit my urine equally in every toilet in the office.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I can't have any other. Every toilet. Oh, okay. We're working a pretty big office, so 13 toilets. Just on your floor. Do you know how many hardest to divide something by 13?
Starting point is 00:52:59 Yeah, I'll do it. I bet you would. And also, get like two more toilets, please. Or demolish three of them. Speak to management. About demolishing three. Demolishing. Although demolishing a toilet usually means something else.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Thanks, Zero. Have enough. So they're interrogating him for like six hours. He's not budging. But that was until they also interrogated his sobbing wife and he finally broke. He asked for a pen and paper and admitted to his collusion with home, so what do you love?
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah. All right, I'm ready. You can be a pen and paper. He doesn't do to live a dog. Look at it, it's barking there. It's wagging its little tail. No, he just shows it to his wife to make her laugh again He's like, ah, ah, remember that dog we saw a drill in
Starting point is 00:53:50 Anyway, what were we doing here? Sorry who you Investigators realized they needed to go after the big dog himself speaking of dogs Draw the suspect we should arrest all right. We've got to arrest that dog Clifford Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Holmes ripped out of his beach front home into the harbor on his speedboat. When it became clear to him that the police were on the approach. This is so awesome. This is so waterass. It's so fun. Cups were quick to speed out after him, but each time they came near, Holmes would have broadly jolt off again. So it's kind of like he'll go, stop and they get,
Starting point is 00:54:41 they're off in the goes again. Still on the boat. Still on his boat. He attracted a crowd of spectators near Sydney's harbor. And what's the hot pursuit? Go to the sea. So water rats, every single speedboat chase always had the harbor in the background. It was the harbor bridge and the other out in the back of every shot.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Just to make it very clear where it was set, wherein Sydney, he proceeded to zoom around circular key and disrupt the morning ferry services. And then led the water police on a four hour chase around the harbor. The water police, a.k.a. No, nothing water rats. What's that? What a rat. What's the show that I keep overreferencing? Do you mean blue healers?
Starting point is 00:55:21 You're talking about police rescue with angel. Police rescue with the super troll. Police McEun. No, no. You're talking about McLeod's daughters. No. On a boat. Now there's no horses. We're not in Mount Thomas, but I do appreciate. Jesus Australia has made a lot of great shows. A lot of great crime shows. Are you talking about thank God you're here?
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yes. I have a box set of that. Fucking love that show. We say bring it back. I'll be on it in a heartbeat. Tom Glisner, if you're listening. Do you think he is? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Tom Glisner, if you're listening, I'll be on it. No, I said it first, Tom Glisner. If you reboot water rats, Tom Glisner, I'd love to be on it. Oh, God. And Tom Glisner could really do a lot of things for water rats. Tom Glisner, if you do a river somewhere, I'd love to be on it. Oh, God. And Tom Glasner could really do a lot of things for water rats. Tom Glasner, if you do a river somewhere again, I'll be on it. I remember a river somewhere. Tom Glasner, if you do funky school again, I'll be on it.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Tom Glasner, what we're saying is we appreciate your work and thank you for your service to the Australian. And thank God, you're listening. Fuck, we are going so really dead, it's today. So he's got So this is so funny, he's going on like a high speed chase on his speedboat in the 30s. For four hours. That's amazing, but you've got to run on a petrol shortly. Finally, homes killed the engine. He killed him.
Starting point is 00:56:36 These are really bad boys. I hate you boys. He's got a Tommy gun. A-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh, ehh,. Yeah. I'm still trying to get, um, you know, the noise on the, when you go under a toll lane, the E-Tag, beeps, it's like a very specific note and I can't quite get it. Okay. I'm working on it. Oh, can you do it? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Are you serious? Yeah, the E-Tag one. Yep. Ready? Yep. Oh! Oh, he is good. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Did that come out of your mouth? I thought we were recording in a car just there. I think I don't, your phone under the table playing sound effects. I can see his phone and his hands are on the table. Holy crap. Do it again, just one more. Sorry, I know you hate this, but just one more for me. No, no, I love eating a fan. So when you go under the toll road,
Starting point is 00:57:39 always got time for you guys. It automatically connects. What sound does it make? Huh? Wow. That one, we're low on funds. I'm curious. It automatically connects. What sound does it make? Oh, wow. That one, we're low on funds. Oh, that one means top up. Top up your funds. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I mean, I didn't need to explain it to you. This is only funny to Australians. No, not even then. Even then they're like, please stop. So he's killed the engine. Instead of the engine, he's said of the engine. He steps up before the crowd, pistol in hand. Fuck yeah!
Starting point is 00:58:11 This is what he apparently said. It's a cryptic phrase. He says. Two down, three across. Four words. I am two hundred. I'm a person. Three across.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Dave has never done a crossroads. My cryptic crossroads are so hard because they're impossible. I prefer word searches. You know, what did he say? He's got gunheads. He said, Jimmy Smith is dead. And there's only one only another left. If you leave me until tonight, I will finish him.
Starting point is 00:58:44 It was clear that he was under the influence, apparently. But Jimmy Smith is dead and there is only another left. If you leave me until tonight, I will finish him. Well, we weren't, leave you then, we don't. So you say, if we don't stop you now, you'll kill someone tonight. I've killed before and I'll kill again. Give me five more minutes. I'll kill again. If you let more minutes. I'll kill again.
Starting point is 00:59:05 If you let me, is that cool? Please, I just got one more. I'm killed to do. Yeah, it's like when people are like, all right, can I go to my friends, like my parents wedding, getting remarried. And then after that, can I get a plus one?
Starting point is 00:59:19 I'm not doing it myself. You know what I mean? It's like a, I'm not thinking to my parents wedding. It's like, all right, we'll let you go because it's like a I'm not going to do it. You can't go to my parents wedding. It's like, um, alright, we'll let you go because it's like a big thing in your family, like a funeral or something, but then you got to come back in with this guy's like,
Starting point is 00:59:32 alright, so we do one more crime and then I'll have a self-care. No, I swear to God, I'm yours. Um. It's always one more with you, isn't it? It's a little more. It's a little more. Which girls?
Starting point is 00:59:42 This is Holmes. Holmes. Fight by Phelps. I like this too. It says, this to it says it was clear that he was under the influence. If his behavior didn't make it clear, the empty bottle of gin at the bottom of the boat certainly did. Bit judgy there, isn't it? All right mate. There might not have been a full bottle where he started.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Yeah, we've all drunk a bottle of gin before we've led the police on a high speed city hub and water chase. And then begged to commit more crimes. Yeah. All right. So I mean, that's right. So what's your tone? Yeah, back off.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Really patronizing. Or this person's just a fucking nerd. Yeah, they sell getting nerd. What, you've never done that? Grow up. What are you a nerd? Come on. Probably a virgin.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Is he? So who are they riding for? Probably a big ego. Where there's nothing wrong with any of those things. Tip for being a nerd. Yeah, they can fuck us. Hey Dave, you've got a new podcast about books. Yeah, please listen to it.
Starting point is 01:00:38 It's got book cheat. It's called number one across the world. That's not true at all. Under the nerd categories it is. Yeah. In terms of literature, podcasts, of which there are dozens. Your number one, baby.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Woo! No, seriously, thank you very much. And the next episode will feature Jess Perkins. Oh, unsubscribe. The big bopper. Yeah, so keep your eyes open. And it says the one on the book it's going to be. I say coming out this Monday, Jess Perkins, Naomi Higgins. What did you owe?
Starting point is 01:01:09 That's a big duo. And I told them all about F. Scott Fitzgerald's classic, The Great Gatsby. Because I've tried to read it five times and get bored every time. Yeah. And I got bored during days of bored too. But she was very polite.
Starting point is 01:01:24 That's good. Yeah, I stifled my yorns. I just kept like putting my hand in my mouth. She was farting a lot. That's a great, that's a great triple, Naomi, Bob and Dave. Yeah. I can't wait to listen to that. It's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 01:01:36 I was actually very fond of it. I had Naomi on primates last week to talk about the documentary, The King of Kong. She's a great, my favorite of a documentary. Billy Mitchell. Billy Mitchell is one of the best characters of all time. I can't believe he's real. Is that hair real? We talked in depth about that. I'll afford to listen to that because that's such a funny documentary. Getting a lot of feedback especially on Twitter of people saying
Starting point is 01:02:01 when will I have a spin-off podcast? Oh yeah. Specifically phrasing the bar and the answer is also soon. So so soon. Ah, the wheels are in motion. Yeah. And by that I mean, Matt and I messaged each other about it frequently. The Duke of Onivers is expanding at a rapid rate. Soon we will take over. It can't be stopped. No, it shouldn't be. Soon we will lead the police on a 4L boat chase. On our mega yachts. Into international waters.
Starting point is 01:02:33 And then I've got to go and I'm like, just let me do one more podcast and then I swear I have myself. They're like, no. No, no more. Please, though. She have to stop. There's too many. Anyway, okay.
Starting point is 01:02:43 So he says, if you leave me until tonight, I'll finish him. He's drunk. The cops brace themselves for a firefight, but then homes raise the pistol. I'm trying to picture a firefight. Is he a bang bang? A bang bang. I was thinking, I'll picture an M throwing fire. Oh, I was thinking flame throws. Like torches. That's cool. Like that Simpson's guy. Crusty. Anyway, what's his name, but the flame throwers.
Starting point is 01:03:13 We haven't done a Simpson's yet. Flame throwers. It's maybe the episode, the only episode of reference. Oh, Hank Scorpio. Hank Scorpio. Oh, yeah, love Hank Scorpio so much. So the police are bracing themselves for some bang bang. Bang bang.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Bang bang. They're barking. Get down. If you'll permit me. Yeah, you've mastered the goat gun beautifully. But then Holmes raised the pistol to his own head. Oh no. And fired.
Starting point is 01:03:41 He fell into the water as a police converged. What was he talking about himself? Oh, there's only one more. And it's me, bang. Maybe. And he said, what do you have? Long did he say nice? Just give me a couple of hours.
Starting point is 01:03:54 And it lead me till tonight. I need a gift. Yeah, I need a, I need a, I need to write some letters. Oh, this is, but the shock to the head didn't kill him. What? And just grazed his temple. Gosh. Oh, this is... But the shock to the head didn't kill him! What?! Just grazed his temple. Gosh! I was...
Starting point is 01:04:10 I was... He was a church. Defeated, he finally turned himself over to the police. Holmes, who was initially thought of as the mastermind of this whole case, pitifully told investigators a different story. He alleged that Brady was a man who killed Smith. He also claimed that Brady brought Smith's seven arm in a grizzly attempt to blackmail him for a sum of money. So he's saying that Brady killed Jim Smith, brought the arm as proof that he'd
Starting point is 01:04:38 killed him and was going to blackmail him. Oh gosh. Holmes described details of the cottage in Cranella, told him that he knew... Go sharkies. Sorry, him describing that. Yeah, Cranella sharks, the scrimmer. He's so much about the Cranella sharks. Holmes describing details of the cottage, told them that he knew more than he was letting on. Police threatened him with an accessory to murder charge to get his inquest, to court to which he agreed.
Starting point is 01:05:06 However, Holmes never made it to court. On the 11th of June, 1935, Holmes withdrew 500 pounds from his account and late in the evening, left home telling his wife he had to meet someone. So he's not under arrest or anything? Nice, so home is going to court. Not under a mound or anything, even though he went for this big boat chest and they think he may be involved in a murder. So he's withdrawn 500 pounds and he's left the house.
Starting point is 01:05:32 The next morning on the 12th of June, 1935, the police approached Holmes' house to bring him to court. Before they even got to the door, they found Holmes slumped over his car, slumped over in his car in the driveway with three gunshot wounds to the left side of his chest. It didn't take long for them to piece together what the insurance mastermind homes had done. He must have hired hitmen and taken out a contract on himself. What? His life insurance policy wasn't applicable under suicide and his death would ensure that his wife and children wouldn't be subjected to the public shame of his conviction. It would be his last successful case of insurance fraud.
Starting point is 01:06:13 He left in a state valued at over 34,000 pounds in 1935, which would be worth millions. So he's taken out a hit on himself. What's what we would assume the 500 pound is for? Oh. Wow. And they had to pay the insurance? Yeah, well it said it was a successful case, so. Oh wow.
Starting point is 01:06:38 So his family was set up, but he was dead. Oh. I mean, that's sick. What a gift. What a gift. Talk about providing for your family. Yeah, millions of dollars and a dead dad. Well, that part's less nice, isn't it? Yeah, but it doesn't sound like I get, yeah, look, I'm trying to find the positive here. And you always do. I'm so be love about you here. It do go on enterprises. So, but we've still got Pat Brady. Yeah, what's happening with old Brady?
Starting point is 01:07:07 The mastermind maybe. The Brady trial went off without homes, obviously. But it was pretty flimsy. Those present included Smith's wife, Holmes's wife, few of the cab drivers who were willing to testify against him. And as the proceedings went on, the most glittering issue was the lack of physical evidence.
Starting point is 01:07:27 There wasn't a body. They had the arm, but no one could prove to the judge that Jim Smith was actually dead, or if he was just wandering around armless. Right, of course. So we don't know if he's dead. Oh, good point. I mean, we've just got a time he put a hit on their own life, so these people obviously are pretty good at playing these little tricks. Yeah, look, we can probably assume.
Starting point is 01:07:45 So, but he could have been like, all right mate, chop my left arm off, they'll think I'm dead, and then I've got a new life. Yeah, and it'll grow back, so I'll be sweet. Yeah, what's the gonna tell you? Medical science was, you know, it wasn't what it is today. Yeah, it was much more advanced.
Starting point is 01:07:59 I think brain. I used to have homes that grew back. Yeah, not like these days, but at any state. Why don't those grow arms? Yeah, it kind of grew in the bloody arm back. Come Yeah, not like these days, but in any state. Why don't you go around? Yeah, I kind of grew up in the bloody armpit. Come on, mate. Come on, mate. Government, I mean.
Starting point is 01:08:09 What do I say, mate? Yeah, I mean, no mate of mine. Yeah. Not my mate. Don't call me mate, not my mate. It's an ironic mate, government. Yeah. All right, mate.
Starting point is 01:08:19 It's a sarcastic mate. Yeah, sorry, my tone is all off. No, that's OK. All right, mate. No, Dave, you're sort of that kind of nice. Try again. All right, mate. All right, you're going nicer somehow.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Right. Mate. Well, that's pretty sinister. Yeah, that was a bit scary, didn't like that. All right, mate. We're all the kids, though. We're looking for you. I fear him a little bit.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Yeah. Maybe he can be bad cop, I don't know. Yeah, definitely is the scariest of the three of us. Yeah, because he's a bit unhinged. Yeah. You don't know what I little bit. Yeah, maybe he can be bad cop. Yeah, definitely is the scariest of the throat Yeah, cuz he's a bit unhinged. Yeah, you don't know what I'll do. Yeah, and I don't know what I'll do I flew to Sydney and all right, man. Oh, right, man Sydney, Australia and a guy Australia So my two row buddies I tweeted this to I read I read the two. I went rowing up there.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Fuck yeah, everybody made that joke, not everybody. That joke. Oh really? Jesus. I'm so sorry. So firstly, it was like a friendly middle-aged man with a Hawaiian shirt on. He was fine. He ended up getting up and moving anyway, because it was like a spare seat.
Starting point is 01:09:19 So the guy sitting next to me is wearing like cargo shorts, camouflage print, and he just had an unsettled look in his eye. He looked unhinged, and he ordered a corona on a 9am flight, and he sat the entire time with his hand up, like resting on the baggage. He probably had a question. That was really strange. He probably had a question about how they got to the war or whatever it was to pay for. To the war?
Starting point is 01:09:47 Was he? We're in Kamo. Shorts. Yeah. Not very safe or... It's going to a hot war. Yeah. Mm, hot war.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Anyway, back to this, this court case. When it was decided that there was not enough evidence, oh, sorry, that there was enough evidence to proceed, the case itself had an even shakier prosecution. Their problem was that Brady was never a violent man. He was charged with lesser crimes like forgery, but never pinned for assault. He stood at five foot four and he was quite slight,
Starting point is 01:10:17 so it was also unfeasible that he'd be able to take on Smith himself. Dave. I'm told. You're told that. You're like five seven. Oh yeah, you're like five ten. No, he's the same height as me. I'm like five thirteen. Okay. Okay, six one. He's not. You're five thirteen. Are you six one? No. You'd be six. I'm six ish. I'm shrinking. I'm very old. Yeah, that's true. That does happen. I was six at one point. Okay, so
Starting point is 01:10:49 Brady's five foot four Smith was a much larger man. He was a boxer. He was quite solid. That's true Lay lay lay Oh boy So there was saying it was unfeasible that he'd be able to take on Smith So he probably didn't attack him unless he he shot him, let's be honest. Anyone can kill someone with a gun. Wow, Dave.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Oh, Dave, come on. Pobletree. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of a bit dismissive of people who actually have killed people with guns or anyone could do it. Yes, I don't mean to offend. People plan that stuff out, man. Yeah, I don't think anyone could do it at all.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I couldn't do it. Do you know it at all. I couldn't do it Do you know I mean I wouldn't do it But you could well guns don't kill people people people kill people with guns sometimes and knives Boz and arrows in weird cases Um just Please tell me in this case it was a bow and arrow broken hearts It's how I plan to go.
Starting point is 01:11:46 I hate plan to go. Well, you two will go and then I'll have nothing to live for. Hmm. Thank you. So I always amend it as well. Yeah, who goes first? Well. Yeah, okay, I didn't want to say it, but.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Oh, obviously a mortal. Dave's weak. Five foot four. You'll get hit by a rhino or something. Something weird, just how people go to sleep. It's so weak. It's only weak people. Yeah, you could leave it out, Rhino.
Starting point is 01:12:19 A normal person would be able to take at least three gauves, but I'd be dead after two. Okay, so a day and a half into the trial, the prosecution fell apart and Brady was acquitted of all charges. He walked away a free man. So you've got Smith, I may we presume dead, but not necessarily homes is dead. Brady's free. The shark arm case was never officially solved, but there are a few standing theories. A few years after the case, Brady's wife admitted that she'd gone to the cottage that Brady was staying at, suspecting he was seeing another woman. She claimed
Starting point is 01:12:55 that she overheard not to. Oh no, she walked down to him, he was making love to the Cheating on it with the arm or with the target shark in the bathtub. Mmm. To his whop. I didn't want to eat a seabed like this. Gross. She claimed that she ever heard not to, but a group of men drinking and playing a card game. No one could ever confirm who these men were.
Starting point is 01:13:22 But Australian legal historian Alex Castles argued that the murder likely took place at the cottage, but Brady himself was out fishing at the time and returned to find Smith dead. So somebody else did it. He would, allegedly, he would have kept silent about this, fearing for his life, because obviously he knows who really killed them, but if he speaks and he'll get killed. With Brady didn't kill Smith, he would have a good idea who did, but he would take this secret to the grave when he died in 1965. Until his death, Brady was the sole survivor of the shark arm case, and in an interview
Starting point is 01:13:58 with Vince Kelly, a leading crime journalist in the 60s, Brady explained that this case followed him to his death, suspecting the people around him would whisper, that's Pat Brady. There we go. Yeah, it's also your name. People like that's Jess Perkins, I'm like, correct. How can I help you? Coffee for Pat Brady, oh, come on.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Are you serious? It's in the past. Come on. That's moved on. Pat killed some people. Okay, yeah. Coffee for the shark arm murderer, I forgot. Oh, honestly, now you're taking the piss.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Well, you asked us to call you that. That is the name you wrote on the... You wrote that on the cup yourself? You insisted. You wouldn't let me write it. Yeah, you wouldn't let me do my job and write it on there. One of his last statements proved to be true. He said, the shark arm case will never be forgotten.
Starting point is 01:14:46 It will be remembered after I'm dead. That was in 1965 and it's 2018, so he's correct. What a legacy. So he died in 65. You can't get to see the Saints win now. Oh my god. He's one of the regrets. That is the saddest thing of all. Is it? Yes. Okay. Certainly in this story. And is the theory that the rest of the body was eaten by a shark different sharks Don't know. Well, don't do you think that's what happened? Well, I reckon he's still around Just one arm. Yeah, because there was no other body Just the arm, but unless it was like
Starting point is 01:15:19 He the body was maybe buried or gotten rid of some other way. And one theory was that he'd taken the arm to homes as proof. So maybe only the arm was left and then it was dumped in the water or something. How did it get in the shark? Well, that was on the pleasure cruise. And I'd rather not talk about it. What happens on the pleasure cruise and I'd rather not talk about it.
Starting point is 01:15:45 What happens on the pleasure cruise? Stays on the pleasure cruise. But that is the unsolved mystery of the shark arm murder. Oh, yes. I'm not too proud to clap myself. A bit of fun. A bit of fun. I'm fun.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Did I do a good Dave Warnocky style telling? Yeah. When you measured, you gave measurements early, five by 15 by 15. Yeah, when you gave pointless measurements, I'm like, oh, this is like a Warnocky report. Thank you. A lot of pointless. I've been trying to get, try to channel Dave, so that's nice. Thank you. It was well done. I think we could all be a little more Dave, the world would be a better place. Even I think we could all be a little more Dave. Yeah. The world would be a better place.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Even I could be, to be honest. You could be a little more Dave. I could. I'd love that. Could you? I'll try. Thank you. I'll try for you.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Thank you so much Dave. So yeah, that is our, our, that's what the people wanted. That's right, the number, mysteries are fun for a reason. Yes. I'm already making, I mean, we're still right in the middle of block and everyone's talking about it. But I'm already, I've already got big plans the next year's block.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Next year, I reckon this should be an official hashtag. I think I like that, but I think I'm also gonna do just like, I'm just gonna, the most requested topics, I'm gonna put maybe 20 in a vote and then the five or the four most popular topics narrow it down again Yeah, yeah, I love that I think someone like that cool and you'll forget but I'll have to do it So I'll have to get like an outsider into run that so that so we don't know and then they tell us what our topics are Anyway, it doesn't matter bit a bit too much admin in pod
Starting point is 01:17:23 Can't be admin off pod. Yeah, okay, thank you. I just want people to know that I work hard. We know. Behind the scenes. But by people, do you mean Dave and I? Yeah. You've just been a bit passive aggressive.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Yeah, certain people. I wish they'd step up to their responsibilities. Yeah, I wish people would acknowledge our hard-eye work. Speaking of hard-work, I've collected another fact-quotal question this week. It's suffable. Yeah, that's right. I opened a message. And now I'm going to read it. This week's fact-quot a question.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Jess, you're going to put in a jingle. Fact-quot a question. I love the live jingle, especially. Ehehehehehe. The live jingle and that, it's probably a different tune, but to me, when you sing it, it sounds like the theme from Weedget the World Watcher. Okay. Is that from the 40s?
Starting point is 01:18:15 No, I need same diff. So this way, it's fact-quotal question is from Christopher Shiki. Shiki? Oh, he's a little bit shiki. BitShiki is very shiki if you hear his, his total is given himself as wild. He's called himself the lady slayer. Oh, he's murdering them. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:37 That's what it sounds like. Are you threatening me? It's a very violent way to big yourself off of him. Are you threatening that you'll slay me? And did he choose this? That's excellent. So this is Christopher's first foray into the fact Quotal question segment. She's a little freaky. And the way you get into this is David.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Can I be spit? Jess, do you want to explain the fact quote or question? Yeah, people choose the fact quote or question. How do they do that? By being Patreon supporters. Basically, if I could take a picture of you. How do you? I nailed it.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Go on, give other information that makes it clearer. Yeah. If you would like to be as freaky as our friend, cheeky. Go on, you just want to say that again. Yeah, I did. Patreon.com slash do go on pod. If you want to support the show, keep us going. If you listen every week, like we said at the top, we've never missed a week.
Starting point is 01:19:33 And nearly exactly three years coming up, you want to keep us going. You go to that web address and you get stuff in exchange for your pledges, including two bonus episodes a month. We should give a shout out to you live on the program. We get a newsletter, you get a bit behind the scenes, Matt's created an exclusive Facebook group for our Patreon supporters. Yes, that's been running last year, because it's been a lot of fun. It's been a real hive of activity. So that's a lot of fun. Yeah, we love having a chat to you in there, because Patreon, you don't seem to talk as much as we'd like. So we like that the Facebook's going on there. And also you can submit a fact quite a question. And also now, I literally said all of that.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Now you're also supporting others, the other podcast as well, without doing anything, you're if you're supporting us on the Patreon, you're also supporting Dave's new podcast, Bookcheat. And he's now going to be shouting out to Patrons on new episodes of the podcast and I'm doing the same on primates I'm letting people reading out Patrons favorite primates and I'm getting some bloody top suggestions Very very good. So you support supporting a whole universe of podcasts. Anyway freaky shiki His suggested this fact and Bob arekinyol, Bollady love it. It's relevant to two past episodes of Do Go On.
Starting point is 01:20:49 And that fact is most Muppets are left handed. I knew that. And the reason for this is most Muppet he is a right-handed. So they operate the head with their favorite hand, meaning their other hand is operated by the other hand. That's why Muppets are superior beings. And what is them up? You might as well.
Starting point is 01:21:14 It's not quite a puppet. So an asses your question. I don't know. That's the second Simpson's reference for the day. Gotta get it in there. Gotta get it in. I'm putting one every week on bookcheat as well, I reckon. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Why not? And we're doing full episodes of Primax TV. Yeah, so we'll never outlive. Dave and I have done two whole Simpson's episodes of Primax already within the first two months of the show existing. Anyway, we can't stop. So thanks so much, Christopher Freaky, Shiki, the usual lady Slayer.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Please don't kill anyone obviously lady or otherwise yeah, I mean Don't kill anything okay. Yeah apart from Poverty kill poverty and bad vibes. Yeah, do you know me? Just give it to those bad vibes. Thanks. Thank you know what I mean? Just give it to those bad vibes. Thanks. Thank you for saying that. Thank you so much for saying that.
Starting point is 01:22:09 You're so welcome. There's another thing we like to do on this podcast. Dave, I'm going to explain what it is and then please feel free to then explain what it is. Okay, I'll... How about we go the other way around? What? If I go first this time, then you explain.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Oh no, get fucked. Because I'm doing it. I'm gonna do it perfectly Well, I think that was I was gonna explain it really really badly. Okay, go on that later explain it Let the end of the show we do a thing Okay, well I gave a lot more information in my experience this way Patreon Yeah, and people like yeah, I get it because they're not idiots. Dave I'm not gonna talk down to them. They're a smart people don't patronize. I'm not gonna
Starting point is 01:22:49 pay tree on nice them. Well, if they feel patronized they can contact me through patreon.com So do go on and if you do support us on patreon.com then we will give you a shout out on our episodes and we will thank you for supporting us, and that is what we're gonna do now. Oh, and we're gonna give them a murder with an animal in a body part. Great. We're gonna give them a murder.
Starting point is 01:23:13 We're gonna give them a little murder. Uh, and I would love to kick it off if that's okay with you guys. That's so okay. Thank you so much for asking, though. No worries. This guy is from one of my favorite places in the world. I've never been there, but I really do hope to go there next year
Starting point is 01:23:28 from Ohio and pick you a Cleveland. Cleveland rocks. Mr. Mike Kilbane. Oh, that's already a murder in name. Mike Kilbane, the dog leg killer. Ooh, dog leg. What does he double back? Yeah, he just takes sharp turns.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Doubles, but oh, actually, if we got to kill him, hang on. Still a quick you turn here. Okay, I panic. Don't just wait for it. No, dog leg killer's right. Yeah, dog leg killer. I mean, if that wasn't the paper, it'd be shit. You said dog legs, that's a pretty common phrase
Starting point is 01:24:05 to mean just around the corner or sort of, it's a golfing term. So dog leg left or right, if the hole bends one way or the other? Yeah, it's sort of to, if the hole bends one way or the other. Oh. I think a deviate of the main path.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Oh, yuck. Oh. Oh. Oh. My kill-bang, the dog leg killer. I love it. Oh, yeah. My kill band, the dog league killer. I love it. And I'd also love to thank from Queensland in Australia from Gaindar, Mr. Zach Shrippard. Zach Shrippard. The Cheetah Toe Killer. Cheetah Toe. Cheetah To toe. Love it
Starting point is 01:24:49 So are all of these the animal coughing up the body Imagine that hopefully they would cut their nails Sorry cheetah, fastest land animal. Yeah. Oh, fastest land, slowest to take a shit. Took it, it was. That's a shippard. It's actually the Cheetah Toe Killer.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Cheetah Toe Killer. Sorry about that. Cheetah Toe Killer. That's for a nice ring to it. Dave, you want to thank a couple? Davey to it. Dave, you wanna thank a couple? Davey? Davey, you wanna thank a couple? I'd love to.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Davey? We just work out. Jess, you would like to thank a couple. I'll thank a couple. I would like to thank from, what's IA? That's why I'd call. I want to say Indieapolis. I made that up.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Ooh, let's see if you're right. IA. Yeah, it could be Indiana, but it's not. I would recognize it from Gary, I-N, isn't it? Yeah, what's I-A? I-A-W-W-W-W-W. But none of us would have got that. Sip-nut town.
Starting point is 01:25:58 And I would like to thank Nathaniel McLean. Oh, Nathaniel McLean, Matt V. Oh, um. Animal. Okay, sh- ow. Sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh first body part. DELTOID. The cucumber, a deltoid killer. Yes. Love it. What's a deltoid?
Starting point is 01:26:33 I've said that word recently. It's a muscle. Yeah, it is. It's also shoulders. It's also a river system. So the Cucumber River may have been where they've been killing people. That's nice. Cucumber River, that sounds cute.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Anyway. That may be Delta. But the Delta Cucumber Rackiller, or the Cucumber Rackilis, is a lot less cute. Yeah, 100%. But thank you to Nathaniel. I really have to examine that body part to work out what the Cucumber is Kielis is a lot less cute. Yeah, 100%. But thank you to Nathaniel. I really have to examine that body part to work out what the Cucumber was coughed up there. Delta was also a name of one of the gladiators
Starting point is 01:27:12 in the 1990s run of the TV show Gladiators. My favorite was Tower. My favorite was Vulcan. Oh, he was the main guy. And Delta. And also Delta, Karantraq Rentals, was an ad that used to play at half-time at St. Scames at Waverly Park and the jingle went like this. Delta, Caron Truck Rentals,
Starting point is 01:27:32 just call 131312 Delta. 131312. Yeah, I don't know if I could say that right. You'd be so mad. 131312? At least I love that right. You'd be so mad. On 31, 31, two. At least I love that jingle. Reminds me of good times. I'd also like to thank someone else, if that's cool. Yes. I'd like to thank from Brisbane, in Queensland, in Australia. No.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Joshua Peel. Wow. Josh Peel. Joshua Peel, great name. The animal. Seal. Animal better than that. Seal head, murder. It's pretty good. White cop with a seal head in his bed. Oh, that's horrific. I know. Are you a panic-rizzled cop. Maybe. I'm you tell me what's
Starting point is 01:28:28 it mean to you? Just let me sit backwards on this chair for a sec. Man I can't control it when she's like this. You better tell her everything you know. It was me. I put the seal head there. Yeah. I know. You're going away for 30 to life Stuart Sorry, oh, oh you sorry. Yeah. Oh you're sorry, Davey. Sorry. Yeah, sorry that he's gonna be in jail for 30 years We just swapped roles bit Can I can I try to get you to confess twice can I call someone yeah? Call your mom. Yeah, maybe she call your mom She could give you a emotional so I'd would be a good idea. My mom's my lawyer great. Cool it Yeah, thank you. Good idea. Hey mom get down here quick. I'm getting real confused by these two changing characters
Starting point is 01:29:15 Let me put let me put her on let me put her on Skin yeah, oh where like a like a skin now Now I'm your mom. Mom, don't come down. Now come down. Put the lotion on your skin. Now I'm your mom. Now I'm confused. I reckon we'd be great good cut back up. I reckon we'd be good just cops in general. Yeah. I reckon we'd just good at everything. Yeah, I think we're good at the bottom of this case. All right, I'd like to thank. Oh, this is a bloody doubly. A bloody doubly. We've got a couple here or a couple of people who knows how they're related in what way, but we're going to say thanks to both of them anyway, all the way from Chandler, Arizona. Fantastic. Well, down to Chandler Arizona. You know that song?
Starting point is 01:30:10 Is that a real song? No. Could they be any more from Chandler Arizona? Look, I'm gonna have to pull you up on that mat. Every time there's a friend through a friend's, it's always that joke and I'm starting to think that you've only watched that one episode. Is that true? Is that true?
Starting point is 01:30:24 Oh no. I see one through. It that true? Is that true? Oh, no. I see one. Three. Because even I know that joke, man. And can I just say? One day, it's a joke. It's dead. Could these people be any more, Chand?
Starting point is 01:30:36 That's good. Thank you. I understand that reference. Otter. Oh, I liked that. The otter. A ball on that. The otter, bow on that, uh, uh, uh, uh, body part. Come on. Just a little bit of it.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Albo. The otter. Albo killers. And I haven't named them yet. That is Jamison and Torney Estes. Oh, nice. And the reason I thought otter is because if they are a couple, they hold hands.
Starting point is 01:31:07 They hold hands when they sleep and so cute. Seriously, Google it. And they all look like, you don't have to Google it. You can watch our live episode from the Melbourne Comedy Festival last year, the Loch Ness Monster episode. Now, you got to flick through that to get to the right point. Probably just Google it. When the footage cuts out, you get to see a few beautiful losses.
Starting point is 01:31:26 YouTube.com slash. Dig on pod. And thank you so much. Jamison, 20 estes. The old bone. And if you're not a couple, it's still like, it's a nice and a hold hands. Holding hands is nice.
Starting point is 01:31:38 That is nice. Give it a go. Just try it. If you're at home and you're in a couple, I'd say, yeah, just give it a try. Oh. No, I would. I would say that. No, I would. Just sitting at home and you're in a couple, I'd say, yeah, just give it a try. No, I would. I would say that.
Starting point is 01:31:46 No, I would. Just sitting at home. You don't even have to be out and about and doing it for safety. You can just hold hands for fun. I watched a video of two people holding hands once and it looked really nice. I can only imagine that it would be Jamison and Tony.
Starting point is 01:32:01 What, like either one of those names is sick, but you bring them together. And Jamison and Tawny, what like either one of those names is sick, but you bring them together. Jamison and Tawny, it's like. Sadly, they cancel each other out. Yeah, they're both yucked now. I'm sorry, it's my scene. So, so if you'd find out this way. And finally, to bring us home, I would like to thank from Glenfield Park in New South Wales. Oh, I wonder how close that is to our crime scene.
Starting point is 01:32:26 Oh, don't let it tell you. I'm giggling. You can look it up. Well, I think from Glenfield Park in East-Athoils, Daniel Wheeler. Macac. Daniel Wheeler. Macac.
Starting point is 01:32:38 Wheeler. Ears. Oh yeah. The Macackey is killer. Macackey is killer. The Macackey is murderous. Glenfield is a southern suburb of Waga Waga, so I don't think they're too close to Sydney.
Starting point is 01:32:48 It's all good. Innocent. For now. For now. The Macac ear. Glenfield Park is exactly like the kind of place I'd run to. Oh, how very. Yeah, where was this little?
Starting point is 01:33:02 It's about halfway between Melbourne and Sydney. I think. Yeah, Melbourne's the most livable city. How very yeah, we're just about halfway between Melbourne and Sydney I think yeah, Melbourne's the most livable city Daniel you should really check out the monthly room in Waga Waga run by Dan Simpson It is he runs a great comedy room at the beer deluxe there. He's just a great dude great guy You might know him from you should Tom Glasner's program. Have you been paying attention? sauce, but... Daniel, check it out. And thank you so much for supporting this show.
Starting point is 01:33:31 And thank you to everyone that we just shouted out to. All you crazy murders. But thank you especially to me, right Dave? Yes, as we always say on this show, Jess is best. Jess is best. Matt has a go. Jess is best. Jess is best. Matt has a go. Jess is best. Perfect. I've never hit someone say it so well at the first time. So well done. The first time. I'm... I'm... It doesn't always work. It's always a delay T.
Starting point is 01:34:07 So thanks so much for everyone for joining us here in the program. Midway through block. You guys have been rockin the block and we appreciate that. Hashtag rock the block. Rock that block. Hashtag rock the block. Rock the block. Tofa.
Starting point is 01:34:22 And something that I think we very rarely say, but I was reminded recently is important for podcast to do. If you could please give us a five star rating on iTunes or whatever that would be so nice. I've been reading through some of them lately and they're fucking the best. You guys are so lovely. Yeah, we now have the ability to,
Starting point is 01:34:39 it used to be the way we could only read the Aussie ones because we log into the Australian iTunes. But now if you're out of view, anywhere in the world will be able to read it. So it's very nice. And they are super nice. And you can do the same if you want to for book cheat and primates.
Starting point is 01:34:52 You know, no one's twisting your arm. If you want, it'd be smart too. Well, not smart. That sounds like a threat. No, I reckon you better do it because I can't, I don't know. I don't know how to control me when I'm like this. You better do it.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Look, honestly, if you can, that'd be great, but no pressure. Pressure. Doesn't take very long either. And a pressure. And please do check out Booksheet. I was on episode two, Jess is on episode three, James and Mesa, I went on episode one, and they're all the best.
Starting point is 01:35:21 I haven't listened to Jess's one, to be honest, but James and Mesa are so much fun. but that's just because it's not available yet. That's true. That's not just because you hate Jess. No, I reckon Jess is one of the best podcasts talents in the country. One of the best. T.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Podcast talents. Podcasts. Allons. I don't want to limit it to podcasts. That was TV radio. You can do it, everybody. Like on the stage screen, running around the track. Trapies.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Sorry. Rapies. Trapies. I mean, that is it for another week. Running around the park. She's so good at it. Look at her go. She's so carefully.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Oh, yeah. Thanks again for listening to the show. Our UK tour is coming up so soon now. And for those people that are gonna come see us, we are very excited. So pumped. So the countdown has begun. But until next week, if you wanna get in contact,
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Starting point is 01:36:43 Ha ha ha. The drop us a line suggested topic. You can do that through the website as well. We always love to hear. This was such a cool topic and only one person suggested it. So maybe you know a story that we should do. Hmm. Jess.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Me. Yeah, maybe. Oh, God. Uh, uh, yeah. Say an animal in a body part. Uh, the banana. Ha ha ha ha. Yep.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Two hands. The banana Yep Two hands the banana hands murder. Yeah, well, that's our most requested topic ever We and we'll be doing it next week now. We'll be back next week with our most requested topic ever So excited I am I know it's gonna be great, but until next week. Oh, so thank you and goodbye later Later! Bye! This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit PlanetBroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I mean, if you want, it's up to you. Bums, bums, bums! Get your bums!
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