Two In The Think Tank - 172 - Lasseter's Lost Gold Reef

Episode Date: February 6, 2019

What is the most infamous undiscovered gold deposit in Australia’s history? Lasseter's Lost Gold Reef! We talk about Lewis Hubert Lasseter and the disastrous expedition he inspired in search of an unfathomable amount of gold!Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Book tickets to Matt's stand up shows: mattstewartcomedy.com/gigs  Check out our other podcasts: Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/stories/lasseters-lost-reefhttp://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/lasseter-lewis-hubert-7039http://www.egold.net.au/biogs/EG00318b.htmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24muO3xEWEEhttp://www.abc.net.au/site-archive/rural/content/2010/s2871000.htm  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey everybody, Jess and Dave, just jumping in really quickly at the top here to make sure that you are across all the details for our upcoming Christmas show. That's right, we are doing a live show in Melbourne Saturday December the 2nd, 2023, our final podcast of the year, our Christmas special. It's downstairs at Morris House, which usually be called the European beer cafe. On Saturday December the 2nd, 2023 at 4.30pm, come along, come one, come all, and get tickets at dogoonpod.com. Holiday gatherings are happening.

Stack on the sparkle this season with unforgettable jewelry from Blue Nile. Right now, save up to 50% site-wide with Blue Niles Black Friday and Cyber Monday deals. Blue Nile offers an endless selection of bold gold styles, gemstone jewelry and classic Monday deals. Blue Nile offers an endless selection of bold gold styles, gemstone jewelry, and classic diamond pieces. And right now, Blue Nile is also offering 36 months special financing for a limited time on minimum purchases of $1,000. Restrictions

apply. See BlueNile.com for details. That's blueniow.com. This episode is brought to you by Progressive. Most of you aren't just listening right now. You're driving, cleaning, and even exercising. But what if you could be saving money by switching to Progressive? Drivers who save by switching save nearly $750 on average and auto customers qualify for an average of seven discounts. Multitask right now, quote today at progressive.com.

Progressive casualty and trans company and affiliates, National Average 12 Month Savings of $744 by New Customer Surveyed, who saved with progressive between June 2022 and May 2023. Potential Savings will vary. This counts not available in all safe and situations. Are you working way too hard for way too little? There's never been a better time to consider a career in IT. You could enjoy a recession-resistant career in a rewarding field, with plenty of growth opportunities and often flexible work environments. Go to mycomputercareer.edu and take the free career evaluation. You could start your new career in months, not years. Take classes online

or on campus, and financial aid is available to qualified students, including the GI Bill. Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do-Go-On. My name is Dave Warnocky and I'm sitting here in a newly air conditioned room with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. And are you boys a bloody frosty and I can see your nips? I know they're poking through. I should have worn a vanity shirt. What does that mean?

Just a coin I phrased. Is that a sneak? I'm going to say phrased a coin. I'm trying to cover it up. I'm making a look like I did it on purpose. I'm too cold to think. And hey, good one, giving away that we sit during these reports.

Thanks for that. I want people to believe that we just walked around. I levitate. Yeah, I'm a floater. Can't get rid of me. I lie down. I have a little nap, getting a little fetal position. I call it the egg.

Yeah. Getting the egg. Yeah, it's good. That's good. That's really, that's pre-fetal position. Yeah, wow. Yeah. If you think about good. That's really that's pre-fatal position. Yeah, wow. Yeah. If you think about it, it's just that.

Okay. Which came first, the fatal position, or the pre-fatal position. Well, now I've said it out loud. Yeah. That's pretty quick. I mean, you can hear that, Kay. That's a dumb question. That's okay.

There's no dumb questions. I think there are. That was one. Actually, I'm sure I've probably said this, but somebody when I was at school, I was riding something down and a girl from school said, have you always been left handed? Always, really? That's a dumb question.

Like, as in you were pranking her? Yeah, like I converted last year. Wow. Have you always been left handed? Can I ask you a question? Yeah. What did you say? Have you always been left handed?

Yeah. Okay. Hey, imagine if there'd been some sort of twist there. Now, before we crack on with this week's lovely episode. Crack on like an egg. The pre-chicken as I like to call it. As we pre-chicken on with the show, we should tell you about some live shows we've got coming up, including one next month.

Very exciting. We're coming to Adelaide for the first ever time on March 10th. And we would love you to be there, Matt. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'd love to. Would you come? Yeah, sure. Oh, awesome. I'm actually going to be in Adelaide anyway for Bondry, which is at the Adelaide French Festival for two weeks. Well, isn't that fortunate that we booked this gig at the same time? Otherwise, it would have been terrible. Hey, Dave, can I come? Please. Ah, sweet. That's so good. It's a great new venue at the Australian One Centre. It's going to be a real fun time. I can't wait to be in terrible if we could do it. Hey Dave, can I come? Please. Ah, sweet. That's so good. It's a great new venue at the Australian One Center. It's gonna be a real fun time.

I can't wait to be there. Yes, so please come on down. It's gonna be a beautiful afternoon show. First time in Adelaide. Don't make it our last time Adelaide, please. Bye, those tickets. Not to threaten you, but we won't come back. But come on, people told us not to go.

So we're judging you. Hang around for a class of Vena after we're done.ino after we'll be hanging out. We'll be hanging out with Love to Meet the great people of Adelaide with a class of Vino. I want to Vino. I want to Vino so bad. Last year in Adelaide I was in my show and after one of the shows I was down the bar and someone came up to me and goes, you're not mad at Stuart from Doo Goana. You're on a said, yeah, I am. She said, what are you doing in town? I'm like I'm doing my festival show upstairs at this pub and she's like really what you should have mentioned on the podcast I'm like I'm I'm gonna have at the start of every episode of the last month or something she's like

I always skip that bit so she probably won't find out about She won't know that we were ever in Adelaide and she could have seen us live Wow Well, that's really on her, isn't it? Yeah, totally. And a lot of ways. Well, she also won't know that we're doing four shows at the Melbourne Comedy Festival at the end of March

and throughout April. So we'd also love other people, including her if possible, to come along to those. Yeah, come along, they're very fun. They are fun. So we're recording for those. We're probably only going to release two episodes, two reports.

So the other two will be after dark specials, even though they're in the afternoon still. Now I'll make it dark. Yeah, I'm gonna be super dark. I'm gonna wear a skimpy outfit. Nice. I'm gonna wear an emo outfit. I'm gonna dress like a golf.

Yeah, all right. I know they're not the same thing. I changed my mind. And I'm gonna dress like a skimpy goth. And I'll be in the golf. Yeah, all right. I know they're not the same thing. I changed my mind. And I'm gonna dress like a skimpy goth. And I'll be in the middle. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sexy goth. Like a sexy Halloween goth.

Yeah, for all. Oh, I'm dressed up as a goth for Halloween. Oh, I'm so sexy. I got eyeliner, but also a maids costume for some reason. The eyeliner on my genitals. Oh. Oh. Just wanted to define my balls. Wow. it's on the one eye. It's permanently winking

in the real fine line after that. Anyway, life shows come to those. Matt's also on tour around the country with Baron Dry. Fantastic show. They had to open in Perth on 12th. So, it would be so good to see there. And you can find out details about Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane and Melbourne at matchjewordcomedy.com slash gigs. And I'll say that you can use the discount code, do go on. It's at least where they try. You're not sure if it's still valid. But, okay, give it a crack. Yeah, why not? What's the worst thing that can happen? It doesn't work.

And then you just pay full price like an idiot. I've also, I don't think I've mentioned this on the podcast yet, but I've got some cool merch to be selling after the show as if anyone's interested in these enamel pins and my face. So good. Can I? Have you seen that? I saw it on Facebook.

I'd love to pick up one. Can I have one? Yeah, can we get one? I'll buy one. Yeah, come and show it. Oh, no, I just won't one. Exc loved it. I'd love to pick up one. Can I have one? Yeah, can we get one? I'll buy one. Yeah, come and show it. Oh, no, I just won't one. Exclusively available after the show. You won't just give one to me now.

Just come to the show. I'll be there outside the venue. Do you have some with you here? No, only at the show. That seems odd. What? What are you going to do? Hmm, I guess I'm going to have to go to the show.

Hmm, not happy about it. Maybe I'll just linger out the front at the end of his show and then I don't have to sit through it. Oh, thank you, people, ideas. Jess. Oh, yeah. You walk out to a crowd of thousands in the street, but you performed before. Where were you all?

That's not going to happen, Matt. Of course I'll be at your show, because your shows are always excellent, and everybody else should be there too. Oh, thanks, Bobba. I'm just ragging on my friend. If you don't go, I will fucking, I will find you, and I will hurt you. Are you talking to me now or them?

I'm talking to them and you. Oh, because I'll be there, Matt. I don't wanna die. Dave, you better be there. I wanna pee. You better be there. You can come after the Adelaide show and Adelaide. Hmm, busy. Yeah, it's a good show. I want a pen you better be there you come off to the Adelaide show and Adelaide busy

Yeah, I want to go see we want to see pandas Pandas of dark oh Cute speaking of sexy gods Both double island on him. Yeah. Speaking of sexy golf, pandas. Bit of fun there. All right, we better roll into this week's episode, which is going to be a fantastic report from none other than Matt Stewart himself. Rebought. Yes, Bob Johnna explained what the show is for you listeners. Oh my god, I would love to. Thank you so much. So what it is is I'm just, that's Matt, Dave's over there.

The three of us have been doing this a while and we take turns on like a rotation, doing a running up a report that suggested we are a listener and then we say it to the other two who don't really listen much and make some jokes. How is that? Yeah, I think that's, that's it. That's it, yeah.

I'll listen. Did you mention that the people not doing the report, I know that's, that's it. Yeah. I'll listen. Did you mention that the people not doing the report, I know what the report's going to be about. I know we get on to the top of the discussion. That was in plot. Yeah, that was plot. I mean, now you kind of spoon-faving. Yeah.

You know? No, no patronize. Everyone got that, but yeah, okay, if you wanted to just really. Man spline. Yeah, a little bit, a little bit there, but all right. I said man spline like there's a real thing. We have a joke there. So this week's question is,

and so this was suggested by two different listeners, and it went up for a vote on Patreon. I put up all Australian topics, because I saw someone a while back mentioned we hadn't done an Australian topic in a while, and I looked back and we haven't done one for a few months. A few months. Since the Shark-Arm murder.

Really? Oh, that was a good one. Not to two, my own horn. That was mine. But it's a cool story. That is a cool story. I'll put up a few topics including Don Bradman. You got a good one, Bradman.

Don Bradman. Which got zero votes. So there may be one vote. Oh, he did. I've put him up like five times. You really want him to do it? You really want him to? Because you want to talk about the Paul Kelly song. Yeah.

Well, the report would be the Paul Kelly song lyrics. And yeah, a few others, including Grizzly Murder. And also a man named Air, who discovered Lake Air. Oh, OK. What man, I'll just go. Sound like a fascinating story. Also worked in Jamaica for a while. Anyway. The lowest point in a story. None of those were voted for. This is this one that was voted for and I'll get on with this question. What is the most infamous

undiscovered gold deposit in Australia's history? Okay, the unwelcome stranger. Oh, hello. Bit of a joke there because the largest one is called the welcome stranger. Oh, nice. Well, this... I'll be high-fiving myself for that. Thank you. This would make the welcome stranger look like a piece of shit. A little speck of shit on a shoe.

A speck of shit. That's what they call original title. The speck of shit. It's named after the man who was said to have found it, but never, you know. And his name was... Last. Last.

Last of his wreath. That's right. Yes, I think just pipped you at the post there, Dave. For God's sake, let me have one. Dave, I'm giving you not one, but two, middle fingers. No. For a double. Two for second.

The Davy double. Copper. Copper. One of those things that I guess, I don't know of you in the same boat here, but I heard the phrase less of this roof. Yeah. One of those things that rolls off the tongue, and then you go,

what's that? I've got absolutely nothing. Yeah, what's that actually? I had no idea about this. I had no idea. I had no idea. And if you did it in gold. Yeah, no idea. Yeah, that's,'ve got absolutely nothing. I had no idea about this. I had no idea anything to do with gold. Yeah, no idea. Yeah, I didn't either.

I would have assumed coral. Yes, but it's got nothing to do with it. It means a very different meaning of the word reef. It was suggested by Jess from Melbourne. Thank you, yes. That is rigged. No wonder she got it. I want to learn more. Vinnie

Policastro from New Jersey. New Jersey. And that is clearly Jess's cousin. Yeah, cousin Vinnie. We've all got a cousin Vinnie, my mother. So let us begin. Oh, please. Lewis Hubert Lasseter was born on the 27th of September in 1880. I Ten 80 right a good year. He was born in Bam Gainey in Victoria, which is the next town over from Meredith location of the great Meredith Music Festival that all three of us have been to Bam Gainey. So have you seen signs for Bam Gainey on your way to Merit? Did you know? I'm just sort of beyond it. I've seen signs, but I don't think I've ever been through

it. Yeah, I wouldn't have been. I'll even tell you that was Victorian. No, I definitely not. It's a tiny, tiny little town right in the heart of sort of gold rush area, not too far from Ballarat, but obviously it was born after the gold rush as nearly young once called his album. His parents were an English couple, William and Agnes Slasada. Agnes. Agnes Ney Crookshank, which is... Agnes Crookshank.

I'd love to take the... I love that. Oh, I love that though. What, you thought I was gonna love Agnes? I love Agnes Crookshank so much. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Agnes. I would love to take the Australian birth records to see over the last 10 years if there's been a

single Agnes born. We there don't mind Angus but Agnes is hard to say I don't like how the shape of my mouth makes. I don't know why but I think of a dying plant. Agnes. Yeah I don't think of a tumour. Ang. I think the NG is a much more satisfying. Yeah, an agnus. Ag. No, good. Sorry, Agnes.

I'm sure you're nice, but... Angus. Agnes. Crookshank. Crookshank. Love it. Anyway, Agnes died when he was young. Happy about that, Jess?

Great. You're happy? Thank goodness. Don't worry. I'd have to hear about her anymore. Sorry, Agnes. And his father remarried. Not heaps has known about the childhood of Louis Lassida. And we don't know he's Stet Mums' name. Hopefully it was better.

No, this point is. I'm even on. Imagine if it was another Agnes. Oh, he's got a type. He's got a type. Oh, he got a type of type of Agnes. He only's got a type. All of our gums. Is that a crime? If it is?

Okay. Guaffin' me boys. So not a lot's known about his childhood, but the following. I've written off a bunch of dot points that I got from the Australian dictionary of biography. That sounds like a great source, is it? That's a good source. Yeah, nice. He claimed to have served four years in

the Royal Navy being discharged in 9 and 1, though there is doubt about this. He traveled to the United States of America where he married Florence, Elizabeth Scott at Clifton Springs in New York state. Love that. On the 29th of December, 9 and 3 and converted to Mormonism. He returned to Australia around five years later, living on a farm in New South Wales and working as a maintenance man and writing for a local newspaper. In 1913, he submitted a design

for an arch bridge over Sydney Harbour. So this caught my attention, obviously, because probably the most famous man made landmark in Australia is the Sydney Helper Bridge. But it turns out a lot of people propose different versions of the Sydney Helper Bridge between 1815 and when construction finally began in 1923. So, that's not necessarily that noteworthy,

but some say that he was the first to suggest that car, the similar design. I am a little bit obsessed with the Sydney Hel Harbor Bridge. Yeah, right. I love it I don't know why I got a Sydney fairly often and Every time I get the chance to drive over the bridge. I lose my shit It is weird to be drive over postcard sort of thing Yeah, it was like when we drove over the bridge in Bristol I know that bridge is from pictures so much, so surreal to be driving over.

Yeah, it's so exciting. Yeah, that was a beautiful bridge. It's a beautiful bridge, but yeah, they're cine-albums the same. I reckon that would potentially make a really good episode. It's a cine-album. Yeah, I feel like there's a big story in that somewhere. I keep thinking that I want to get it as a tattoo, and then I think people would be like, oh, you from Sydney, I'm'm like, no I just really like the bridge, which seems kind of odd. But I love it.

Do you love a lot of bridges? Just a bunch of things. No I just really love that bridge. I love looking at it, I love driving on it, I've kept in the train across it. I love Sydney Harbour Bridge. If Sydney Harbour Bridge is listening. They're trying to go to the bridge.

Yeah you get to train across. I didn't know that. Have you climbed it? No but I want to. Oh I've done that yet. trying to go to the other. Yeah, you get to train across. I didn't know that. Yeah, have you climbed it? No, but I want to. Oh, I've done that yet. I really want to do it. I'd like to say you say you love it and you haven't even climbed it for a day.

Haven't even climbed it because I respect it. Oh, good. Yeah, that's great. I also love my mom. I don't climb all over her. I've climbed on your mom. We're all climbed on it. Nothing weird.

Nothing weird. Just climbed her like a tree. Yeah. She's very short, Dave. Yeah, that was an easy climb. I'm even shorter. That's true. Anyway, sorry to derail, but I just wanted to put it out there that I'd love to sit

in your haven't really. Can you believe that maybe we're going to later this year drive across the Golden Gate Bridge? Is that the red one? Yeah. Yes, it is. I don't know, fuck. The one from Full House. Fuck, maybe I really like bridges. That's a beautiful bridge. Is that the red one? Yes it is. The one from Full House. Fuck, maybe I really like bridges. That's a beautiful bridge. It's a beautiful bridge. I love bridges. Hey, Gus, we'll cross that one when we come to it. In, sorry. In 1915,

he lodged a provisional specification for a patent disc plow. So he's, I'm just trying to show that this guy is all over the shop. He's got range. Yeah, he does. Supposing the Navy traveled a bit, written for a local paper, working in maintenance, designed a bridge, putting in for patents for a disc plow, whatever the hell that is. Then when World War, the First World War kicked off,

he moved to Melbourne and tried unsuccessfully to enlist. But that didn't stop me, tried again. What was he being rejected for? Because I thought that- Health, I think he was just not up to scratch. Especially the war went on, they get more and more desperate there, right? Yeah, so he tried it again. And in early 1916 was enlisted in the Australian Imperial Force.

There you go. They took anyone by the time. But eight months later, he was discharged as medically unfit. So he sort of got in there for a little while but then again I'll hang on. No good to us I guess. The following year he re-enlisted in Adelaide, who keen, this time he lasted only three months before being discharged with an unspecified illness in November of 1917. In 1919, he was granted a patent for an improved method in the treatment of wheat for storage, but he didn't pay the fee, so the patent laps. Oh, what did it have made him rich?

I mean, an improved method of the treatment of wheat for storage. Yeah. I think it would have made a good difference. I mean, come on, Dave. I mean, there's no dumb questions, but again, another dumb question. That was good. Wow. That was next level. Do I?

God, he would have been a billionaire. Yeah. Then on the 28th of January, 1924, he married again. So he's double married now. Oh, is the wife been traveling with him the whole time? I don't think she's staying the state. I think she's staying the state. Oh.

Which, and Mormon, people often do have more than one. Oh, right. I think, yeah, that might depend, but. Yeah, no, it's not all of them, but I think that they- Only the hot ones. Yeah, it's honestly like different continents, you know? Oh yeah, you get different handest fears.

Yeah, that's fine. That's not Northern hemisphere life. Yeah. It's almost like a different like dimension. Right. It's like having a holiday house. Yeah, it's a holiday life. Yeah.

Sure. This time it was to a nurse named Louise Irene Lilly White. Oh Louise Lilly White is cute. Little Louise Irene. Yeahey White. Oh Louise Lilley White is cute. Little Louise Irene. Yeah, get rid of Irene. But you never use your middle name, do you? Then between 1925 and 1929, he worked in Canberra as a carpenter, had a feud with his local council for some reason over his house.

He worked on a patent for a pre-cast concrete, managed a pottery and Sydney, worked on the construction of the Sydney Harbour Bridge. At the whole time being like, you know, I thought of this. Yeah. Well, then he publicly claimed to be the original designer of the Archbridge for Sydney Harbour. So, he, yeah, I just reading through that list in quite quick and succession.

I was like, bloody hell. I did a lot. How do they build bridges? I believe that one was from one side and then the other side and then they joined them in the middle of the scene there. Go get that right. Progression of the photos.

Yeah. Yeah, imagine that. You were a meter off. Oh crap. Even being like a few mil off is fucked. And then one side's like, one side's like, well I'm not tearing my side down. You start again. So it just has a chic mill off is fun. And then one side's like, one side's like, well, I'm not tearing my side down. Yeah, you start again.

So it just has a chicane in the middle. Yeah, it goes. Any house. So last, I'd lived an interesting life up until this point. But it's what happens next. That is the reason he's known most. That's right. What happens next is even more interesting

than managing a pottery in Sydney. I don't think. Even more interesting than some sort of disc barn device. The wheat, the wheat patent thing. Yeah. Wheat storage. I don't think so. Even more interesting than wheat storage.

Well, I mean, good luck. So apparently he went by a bunch of different nicknames. My favorite thing, possum. That's a good nickname, right? That's good. Do you know any possums? Yeah, a girl I went to primary school with, her mum called her possum. That's a good nickname. That's good. Do you know any possums? Yeah, girl I went to high school with, to primary school with her mom called her possum. Right. Yeah, it feels like a like an infantile sort of thing. No, she was 43.

Because the politician from South Australia, I believe, phrase at Gorman, and he had to come out publicly on the record last year because the media, there was some issue over his academic transcripts. He was claiming he'd been to two universities which he had and then the media came across it and they discovered that his middle name by law is possum. And then he had to come out and do a press conference. We talked about this on the project because it was such a bizarre moment. He had to come out and be like, so my parents, yes, they loved me when I was just before I was born. But that change. When I was born. Then there were some possums on the roof and my parents loved the possums.

So, when I was born, they called me Fraser Possum Gorman. He had never pressed conference about it. Why? Leave him alone. You're so strange. Who cares? So, I do know a possum. People have weird middle names.

It's fine. Don't worry about it Yeah, it's true months very silly. Yeah, it's so dumb don't say it all right. I won't it's embarrassing Cash smell So here one of the source I've used quite a bit is an article from the New South Wales State Library website and Here's a little description. they have written down there. From back in the day, Lassada is a little nuggety fellow, darkish complexion, flat chubby face

with no nose bridge, ironic, because he was obsessed with the bridge. Maybe that's why. He was partly bald, and his scalp showed many deep scars. Which part was he bald? Forehead. He was a man of jumbled moods and never quite happy.

Oh yeah, can't do what? His special pastime was singing hymns, all set to the one tune. Hang on, what? He loves singing Mormon hymns, and apparently they're all set to the same tune. What was the tune? See, the bomb is fire.

Yep. Yeah, that's where that song came from. Happy birthday to you. That's your version of a Mormon hymn. I don't know many Mormon hymns. Yeah well, grow up. Read a book, Dave. Read a bloody book. Read a hymn book mate. Anyway, on the 14th of October, 1929, Lasseter wrote to the federal member for Cal Goole. A man named A.E. Texas Green, Texas was his nickname. I'm like, oh, I wonder why this is looked it up. It's because he went to America for a bit. Wow. All right, Texas. Here we go. Here we go. We lived in Oklahoma for three months. Oh, Texas is back. Big man.

That's a great place over here. Oh, well, Sheriff's back from Texas. Oh. Oh. And in this letter, Lassard claimed that decades earlier, he had discovered a vast gold bearing reef in Central Australia, saying it's bad gold as thick as plums in a pudding. Whatever that means. What does that mean? What does thick as plums in a pudding. Whatever that means. What's this like little specks throughout a pudding? Yeah, I don't think you've cooked

it well enough or chopped up the plums. That's not. Are you putting full plums in a pudding? No, that's fair. Yeah, well that's what I do. Oh, Maddie. I just put plums in a bowl. Here's a plum. There's a plum pudding. Oh, dear. So just to confirm, he's writing a letter saying, I found this reef. He said, decades earlier. Right. I found this reef. I always sort of reef. I assumed it had somebody to do with like coral reefs and stuff as well.

But apparently a reef in this case is another term for like a vein of some mineral or ore. So it's just a long stretch of rich in a certain mineral or or or or. Reach. Reach. It's very. I guess that makes sense when you think about a coral reef. But apparently nothing to do with. I know, but just the word reef. Right. I have no idea. Maybe they have lots to do with each other. It's belt the same. Maybe they've lived together. Maybe they'll love each other. Why don't they get married? What a lie everyone.

Wow. Reef and Reef sitting in a tree. It would lead to some awkward moments. Like when guests come, are you with the reef side or the reef side? Confusion. God. Confusion and choose. Reef or Reef.

I beg your pardon? Ah. That ashore is having a terrible. And then later at the reception, they're serving beef or reef. And it's just confusing everyone once again. Yeah. Beef for the reef and a reef for the reef.

No worries, coming right up. He said a fortune was there to be made if the government would invest in some infrastructure, including an adequate water supply. And he had this idea of making a big water pipeline from a dam that was going to be hundreds of miles long. He claimed to be a competent, savagrant prospector. Like he seems to just say whatever he needs to be, he's good at it.

Right. And it sounds like he must be pretty good at a range of things. Yeah, it seems like he's very good at talking and communicating and getting people to believe what he's saying to some degree. He said he could do this for 2,000 pounds. He'd be able to survey the root for them. He also sent a letter to the relevant Western Australian state minister and suggested that the state and federal governments could share the cost. The following month, he was interviewed by Herbert Gapp, the chairman of the Development

and Migration Commission. Herbert. Herbert. Already amazing. Love it. Gapp. Gapp. Yeah.

How many peas? Double peas. Fuck yeah. Like, dip. Yeah. But Gapp. gap. Yeah, yeah, you get in it, you're gap in it. Here also in the meeting, the interview was geologist Dr. LK Ward. So back in those days,

there was a lot of double initial surnames up things. They do wanna hear you. DJ Wannock in the house. Sounds like Lassiter was relatively convincing in these meetings. Some sources say that they were just like, no. And others say, yeah, they were sort of on board, but they were still a bit skeptical of such a reef's existence. And both governments decided to pass on the offer.

Potentially, this was in part because the government was now in a lot of financial trouble due to the Great Depression. It's not a good time. No, he's a fun fact. Apparently Australian Prime Minister James Gullam was in office for only two days before Wall Street crashed, bringing on the Great Depression in Australia. How unlucky is that? That is correct. That's your great, great.

My great, great uncle. Great, great uncle. Two days. And he crashed Wall Street. He crashed Wall Street single-handedly. What a fool. Yeah, not bright. Apparently it became like a saying almost like you got the luck of Jim Scullin' Yeah. Because he just said the worst luck of any Prime Minister just... Well, I mean maybe there's people with worse like like, um, whole-two.

Interesting. See, but still pretty bad luck in terms of professionally, with worse like, like, whole to what you're seeing. See, but still pretty bad luck in terms of professionally. You're like, all right, finally got to the top. Oh, no. Yeah, like, it still be so excited. You see, we celebrating, you know, that you're the PM, you're the top dog. And then it's like, okay.

We got a phone call from this Prime Minister, didn't, uh, nah, can wait. Can't be that bad, can't it? It's pop and champagne. It's the great depression just started. The great depression, so I may have anything to you. Okay, a little bit of sensitivity, Jim.

I can call you Jim now because you're an insensitive prime minister. Anyway, that's my family, so that's where I come from. Frank's in the lock of the skulls over here. Well, I come from great leadership, you know? That's why I had such good leadership skills in school. Right, that makes sense. Primary school I was school captain

and blue team captain at the same time. Share the love. No, I will lead. So he was rejected by the government, but did not give up easily. As he then approached the Australian Workers Union in the hope that I would find his survey, maybe the government said, we can't do it just because we're in strife, we couldn't be seen to be throwing money into this expedition, but maybe you should talk to this guy in

the union who used to be a labour minister, I think, or at least a labour member, I believe, who is now running the union. So he talked to the Australian Workers Union, well he sent a letter through and had more luck this time. This may have had to do something again with a great depression because people were out of work and looking for opportunities to pull themselves out of it. So maybe that was in part why they took a gamble on this a little bit. The story he told of how the gold reef was discovered was showing contradictions, though.

Some say that he saw the first letter to the government. He said it was about 17 years earlier that he discovered it. But in his letter to the union, to John Bailey, the leader of the union, the boss of the union, he said that he found the gold in 1897 when he was just 17. So. Drought a lot longer. Yeah. Another, yeah, 13, 14 years early. Right. Yeah. That's a big deal. It's a bit weird. Apparently, so this is basically an abridged version of what he told Bailey from the website egold.net.au. After an unsuccessful excursion to a failed Ruby rush in the East McDonald

Rangers in Central Australia, so he was working on a job, got bored of that and then went over because he heard there was a, there was Rubyies to be found. Got there turned out to be much less valuable red rock. Sort of sort of red rock, but yeah, it was not worth anything. So it goes on to say instead of retracing a steps through Queensland, he decided to travel through desert country to Carnivon on the Western Australian coast.

Onward, he stumbled accidentally upon a reef of gold, some 16 kilometers long, 16 kilometers long worth of gold. In Western Australia? Uh, in Northern Territory on his way to Western Australia. And he waited at least 13 years to tell anyone or get any of it. Oh, that's not exactly right, but something like that. So not long after the Fiends, this is still from Egold. Not long after the Fiend, his horses died, he became lost and was on the ground, basically his story. This is all his story to the Union. He was all but dead when

an Afghan Kamaliyah and came along, picked him up and took him to a surveyor named Harding. Apparently, despite being close to death, he kept a bag filled with samples of gold from when he discovered the gold and showed them to Harding, who was super excited by the gold and was like, we gotta go back there, we gotta go check it out. This is also part of the story, is telling. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Take me to the reef, right?

But Lassato was said he was so scarred from his near death experience, he never wanted to go back. But eventually, he relented and they went back together, rediscovered the gold with hearting. But soon after, hearting died, leaving Lassato as the only living person who has seen the reef.

How convenient. Uh, this is the story he told Bailey. Seemingly with many holes, but still a bloody good story. Part of it was that he basically, the story basically means that he ended up walking from Queensland to Western Australia. A lot of that on foot. Like thousands and thousands of kilometers, often through the desert.

Yeah, like kind of like, I don't think anyone would have done it before then. And especially solo. Yeah. With a dead horse. Yeah, that time to get a horse, I think, and at times it was on a camel, but it's all very far fetched sounding.

And if it was true, there was someone in that meeting with the Union boss Bailey who knew a bit about the stuff. He did the sums and estimated value of the gold would have been 66 million pounds in 1929 money. Whoa. Which I imagine translates to trillions. Yeah, about 10. Not to have hundreds of millions of trillions. Hundreds of trillions. So I think?

Billions. Trillions of trillions. Hundreds of trillions. So you think? Billions, trillions of trillions. Hundreds of quill crunts. Google.org. Wow. That's a lot. So he found it, but let decades pass for whatever reason. Some say that he tried to find a few times during them,

but he couldn't. Then the Great Depression hits, and he starts pitching around this idea. I mean, bad timing. Terrible timing. Nobody, I mean, yeah, we all want the gold, but we just don't have the resources to go get it right now. But may it all... Many tell us five years ago.

Yeah. Is it weird that he's asking now? Is he going, well, now there's people who are desperate, maybe desperate enough to take a part on this story or maybe, yeah, who knows. But if they take, well, what would be would be thinking like, well, you need money because the great depression, I know where we can find a lot of gold. Yeah. Oh yeah, maybe, oh, you want money.

Oh, I know where there's like unlimited money. Is that, would that be interesting? Is that what you want or? Would that, is that something you might, cause I could take you there. If you want. If you want, up to you. Turn it up to you.

While pitching an expedition to Bailey, he told the Union Boss that he was a qualified ships captain and that he had worked for years on coastal boats. But as I said before, there was doubt about this. Feels like a bit of a weird lie anyway, because it's really going in-line. Yeah. Why bring that up?

Don't worry about it. We have to cross the ocean. I'm your man. Now, into the desert. According to the Australian Dictionary of Biography. That's interesting. Which is a great source. That is a great thing. Let's call the ADB.

But it sounds weird. To me, it sounds like someone made up a source. It's got the Australian Dictionary and the a source. Yeah. It's got the Australian, the dictionary, and the biography. Yeah. It's very possible. We should not call it maybe the biography dictionary or something. Yeah. It's a strange dictionary.

That was probably taken by another equally great source. Yeah. So, according to the ADB, and follow-up interviews with men interested by the expedition, including a man called Fred Blakely, also Errol Koot, and others. Oh, come on, that is. That is a great name. That is Tontality.

Koot. All the names are great, miss. Apparently, the story varied in detail and aroused suspicion, nevertheless, the lure of gold in a time of economic depression led to the formation of a search expedition, the lure of gold in a time of economic depression led to the formation of a search expedition for the reef. I suppose people, you're pretty desperate.

See, you're like, no, he sounds like he's bullshitting, but maybe he's not. If he's nothing to lose. Because if he's not bullshitting, and if you can go find some gold, then you're more than a, you're set up forever. Like you're good. So, it's like, I can't get a job in the city anyway,

I'm as well go with this for a part. And there also the money that's gonna fund it is sort of coming from the union. So it's sort of coming from the workers a pan for it anyway. Right, so it's kind of like you're just investing your time rather than your life, so. Yeah, I think everyone on there is getting paid to go.

Oh, fuck yeah. Ah, so it's more, as soon as it's mainly getting the man, John Bailey to okay it, and once he does, he puts together this motley crew to go in, which is always good. There should be a movie made of this with like American comedian actors, like Adam Sandler and stuff.

I think. Yes. Doing Australian accents though preferably because I love it when Americans do Australian accents. I do, too. It's real fun. I think it sounds a little something like this. Okay. Go.

What's going on here? The whole? Yeah. Some of that. Pretty good. Now, I'm not reckonin' all that. That, yeah, rock n' ain't. Okay, now you're just talkin' like you talk. I changed a little bit.

How? I added a, I added a, I pitch. Yes, you're right, I hear it now. Thank you. A team was put together led by Fred Blakely, a man with a bit of bush experience, but no experience whatsoever leading an expedition. A bit of bush experience. Join the club, mate.

Yeah, right. Yeah. Along with a prospector named George Sutherland, an engineer and driver named Philip Taylor, another driver Fred Colson, an airplane pilot called Errol Koot who we heard about before. Koot's flying the plane. Good day, ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain Errol Koot speaking. Captain Koot. I wish pilots said get A, that'd be sick. I like what I mean. I like it when they try to be a little bit funny, a bit cheeky, make a bit of a joke,

and you're just like, shush, I can barely hear what you're saying anyway. Because a lot of you are, whatever, whatever, we'll be cruising it about. Yeah, we'll have that little pause and the vocal fry. And so we'll be pulling in about 15. We're gonna be circling around and landing a few minutes. Here's a good rule.

Three minutes past 10. Taxing and trust you've enjoyed the flight. I look forward to seeing you next time you choose to fly. Cross-check and you prepare the cabin for landing. If you're visiting Melbourne, we hope you enjoy your stay. And if Melbourne is your home, I would. And making up the crew is Captain Blakeston Houston. That's double barrel name.

Blakeston? It was listed as explorer, but was also the governor general's aid. So there's an interesting combo there. Yeah. Lasseter rounded out the group as guide. So how many, how many we talking? Seven I think. Nice.

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Six, seven. And if they have a pilot on board, are they flying at all? Yes. Cool. Lasseter was paid five pounds a week for his role. Before they set off, Bailey became nervous that all the knowledge of the Reese location

was in Lasseter's head. And though, we've got to get it out. Where's the ice pick? Crackle his egg open. No Lasseter wasn't keen to give up the location. He agreed to write the coordinates in invisible ink on some paper. Yeah. Yes!

Alright guys, I'll make a deal. You hear the word invisible ink, the phrase you're like, Oh crap, we're not an answer. We're not gonna die. This guy's a little bit of a crap. Tell you what I will do, I'll send a carrier pigeon. If I die, find the pigeon. You'll know the one.

The pigeon will find you. Sorry, he agreed to put the... Well, this was a grade two with Bailey. But he wasn't coming along. He was the union boss who was funding it, but he was staying in civilization. There is also that key part in the Mormon religion, parodied both on South Park and in the book of Mormon, where Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism, reads some golden plates and someone dictates

what he's reading out and translating, but they're not allowed to see the plates. Right. And then, yeah, he's got to do it twice and the second time he has to use different plates that it has a different meaning to the first one so we can't even repeat it Right, so I can see this invisible link thing making sense to this guy. Yeah So so dim he said he put it on on paper an invisible link and then that paper was to be held securely in a bank vault in case he died for whatever reason

When did invisible link come in? I mean and if it's in a bank vault why case he died for whatever reason. When did invisible ink come in? I mean, and if it's in a bank vault, why does it have to be invisible? That's it. There's a lot of paranoia. I guess with big fortunes like this people are like, I've got the key to this guy. I don't want to tell you where it is and you find it without me. I guess is what he's saying. According to the new subway and you can understand why they'd be like,

what happens if you die out there? Yeah. You're the only one who knows where it is. So apparently wrote down the exact coordinates of where it was. Well, he just remembered him, Ned. Imagine remembering coordinates. Hey, 66 million pound fortune at that time. I'd remember a few numbers.

How many? One. Oh, number. One. Ah. My coordinates are one. One. Got the pen and paper out.

According to the New South Wales State Library, the thorny croft motor company heard about the expedition and then manager donated a vehicle for use during the expedition. It was a mini Cooper. And everybody piled in and that was nice. Yeah, seven more can you give me? It's green. Oh. I'll say raising green.

I'll say that. No. Like an olive. It's quite ugly. That Mr. Bean's car. Yeah, they kind of tried to, they were trying new colors and they tried that one and they went, oh, that's gross. That's why you just gave them that one.

Yeah, you just give it to an exhibition. We look good, but we don't have to look at the Yuck color. Yuck, not like a nice olive, like a really Yuck olive. Like a pu-bran olive. Pu- Olive, pull of. Right, not a Kalamada. No, no, no, no.

The King of Olives. Oh, I love Kalamada. Kalamada. Kalamada. I also thought of, no, no. The King of Olives. Oh, I love a Kalamada. Kalamada. Kalamada. I also thought of here I am. Kalamada. Oh, just Lisa or Camcranado. This is Simpson's one.

No, it wasn't a mini. It was a huge six wheel truck that was not particularly suitable to the terrain that they were gonna be heading into. Apparently when local sawdow like you should be using camels that truck does not make sense here at all. It's not going to last. They also got a light plane and it was renamed Golden Quest for the journey. I like that. Yes, finally, a name I can get on board with. So this is now they've got the most well equipped expedition of its kind ever to that point on a minor expedition.

And still, like I was looking at it saying, no, I should get a camel. Because it's super well equipped, but it's not necessarily well equipped for this particular job. It's all a bit haphazard. I mean, they only one guy knows where they're heading, right? Six of the seven, don't ever know where they're going into the...

Yeah, but they know that if he dies, they can call up the bank. Get them to whip out the invisible ink kit. Yeah. Develop the code. And the code just says fuck off. Yeah. Die you dogs. Yeah, if I'm dead who cares.

Oh, shit. Oh, you fucking gola. Why did you make this invisible? We're all slapping the face. A part of the job of the Six-Wield truck was to carry the fuel of the plane. Of the fuel of the truck. That's the fuel of the truck. Oh, no.

Exactly. But no one knew what kind of fuel efficiency the truck had until it arrived in Alice Springs by train. So I was just on the back of the train. When I got there, they drove it around and realized it was a massive gas guzzler. So they had to hastily organize it. They were doing burnouts.

They were. They had to hastily organize another vehicle to carry the fuel for the truck, which was carrying the fuel for the plane. Oh my God. What's carrying the fuel for the smaller car at the back? Just another small, a mini minor, a whole of green mini minor. Yeah. I was right.

I got a bunch. So there was an Australian, he might have been a co-host on the Australian version of that car show Top Gear. Oh yeah. Warren should really have written his name down. But anyway, he wrote a book about it. And a bunch of these quirky facts about it, I got through him. He tells a body good story.

This was via Jess, who suggested one of the topics recommended his book. And there's a few interviews with him online as well. They're worth listening to which I'll put into the show notes. As well as the truck problems, they also had a wireless radio for communication, which seemed like a great idea, but the technology wasn't totally pocket-sized back then. They need about half the expedition team just to lift it. Three to four of them. Just to lift it. Just to lift of them. Just to lift it.

Just to lift it, yeah. So all day their job is to carry that. I think it was on the truck, but if they want to use it. Oh, I was going to say. Scott, we can up it on the truck. That's full of fuel for the plane. But don't be stupid. All right, we're going to need to get a motorbike for the radio.

Yeah. I was going to carry the fuel for the motorbike. By this point, they all have a vehicle each. I don't have to talk to a judge. It's like Mad Max roaring across the desert. I've got so many trucks. Warren Brown is the name of that author. That was close.

You were looking. What did you say? Buffet. I want to buff it. I'm pretty sure of it. And then, because no one was particularly knew how to use a buffet. Yeah, it's for a buffet. I'm pretty sure of. Um, and then, because no one was particularly new, had to use a wireless radio. So last, it was in charge of operating the wireless. So the heat hell, it probably could even have a power-up. I think it was, yeah, it sort of blacked it. Yeah, I can do that.

Yeah, wireless radio. Yeah, and I, yeah, and I invented the radio, so I could do it. They got into the trip when they realized that he hadn't brought one of the key parts of the road either meant that you could listen, but you couldn't communicate back. You didn't get the mouthpiece. Oh my God. That's pretty important when you're the ones out in the middle of nowhere. So you can hear people going, everything, we'll just assume everything's okay out there.

Yeah. Hey, we haven't heard from you. Probably gone great. Great. All right. Let us know if you're not. But if you're not. And good, good night.

If everything's good, say nothing. Just double check and say nothing at all. All right. All right. Ninety-not. No news is a great news. When there were an hour springs ready to set off, so they're all, they're starting the expedition from Alice Springs. For people who don't know Alice Springs, it's a, it's a, it's a bigish town, such city

in the Northern Territory, but it's very remote. It's right, it's like in the middle of Australia. Yeah, it's right towards the very heart. Yeah. But apparently back in these times times nearly a hundred years ago was Described Warren he described as sort of like a real Wild West town people carrying guns on their hips And it was like not a particularly well built-up town or anything like that And there was a place where people you still hear that about the Northern territory

Sometimes people it's place people go there when they're running from something. Yeah Um, but anyway, it was like that times of the hours and back then But they're they're wandering around there and lasted is pointing out local landmarks that you remembered from when he was there decades earlier You pointed to like a pub that was like established like the year before yes It was not in 19. He's like, yeah, remember that pub from the youth? That's exactly what he was doing. He was pointing out things that weren't, went around when he said he was there last.

Wanting it a baby? Remember that one? Remember that one? When he's going with him? Yeah, well, yeah, that'd have changed a bit. Jim, good to see you. Look good. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha So it was just going around. He just sounds like he's a guy who maybe believes what he's

saying, but he just sounds like he is very loose with the truth. So is he literally just pointing at things and going, remember that? Oh, the old, yeah, the old tree sapling. Remember that, remember that when I was an even smaller sapling. Remember that was just a seed when I was illus. Yeah, so they went there when he was there last and people noticed and he looked like he clearly didn't know what he was talking about. Yet for whatever reason, the

expedition went ahead. Yeah. You know, talking about your mate Dave Errol coot, the pilot. I love him. Apparently he wasn't actually a qualified pilot. Good. He had, he had, he had, he had, he had, some sort of lapsed, but he'd, plane as a passenger.

We've all, yeah. I've flown. He's like saying windflown. I've flown. I've flown, I've flown to like heaps of country. Yeah. He flew in the emergency thing. You know, he said he flown to like heaps of country. Yeah. He flew in the emergency thing. You know, he said he'd help in an emergency.

Yeah, that's right. In an emergency, I'd throw the door out of the door. Yeah. Exit row. Yeah, I've done the short course. Yeah, no worries. I've read the pamphlet. I've nodded at the flight.

It's a bit gone. Yep. Yep. That's eight. Like, when was the last time you were in the exit row? And I go a couple of months ago. And I go, are you willing and able to assist in an emergency, and I go, sure. I always put me in the middle seat, fuck, kill me, you know?

So you're like, you're yelling, kill me, and you just said you'll help people in person. I'll help others, but kill me. I'm going down with the plane guys. I'm a hero. I'd love to hear, obviously there are lots of survival stories on planes. I'd love to hear about what people in the exit road actually did. Did they know about, or was it just like, sorry, everyone for themselves kicking kids

out the way to get down the slide? Or it's like, yes, my term to serve. Yeah, like, what do people take it really seriously and possibly risk their lives? You know, I'd love to hear a story. Imagine, yeah, imagine that, this feels like saying, you've made an oath. Imagine people would normally stick to it. It would be pretty full on to go, fuck it. Yeah, but obviously that situation is pretty full on that. Yeah, I don't think, I don't think you'd know how you'd react until you're in that situation and then you might surprise yourself. That's your reaction to them. Are you willing and able? I don't know how I'd react.

Yeah, look, I'm gonna say yes, but I don't know for sure. And I just want to say, because a lot of people listen to podcast while flying. Flying is one of the safest ways to try. Yeah, good call. Sorry, but you're fine. Anyway, the soo kut took off in the golden quest and immediately stacked it. What do you mean stacked a plane? Crashed a real bad. Oh my God. He was very badly injured. Oh, not me. It's like first flight. Yeah, apparently. Oh, my favorite guy. Yeah. I read different

things. Maybe they lost the plane, but I also read somewhere that a replacement named Golden Quest 2 was found. No, don't. Don't let him go again and do not name the plane after the one that is crashed on its first flight. He's Titanic 2! I think everyone survived. Everyone was fine, but it was yeah. But he was badly in it. He stacked it. Do you reckon he does he continue on? I don't think so. I think he goes back to town and I believe. I might be wrong. It feels like such a big story. It's kind of got an iconic name, but there aren't many super in-depth sources

that were easily found online, but there it looks like there's heaps of books, lots of there's movies and documentaries, there's songs, but just not a lot of, not like most reports I do there's a wealth of of info online, but yeah for this one I was scrapping together from a handful of... Isn't that just... This episode is brought to you by Progressive. Most of you aren't just listening right now.

You're driving, cleaning, and even exercising. But what if you could be saving money by switching to progressive? Drivers who saved by switching saved nearly $750 on average, and auto customers qualify for an average of seven discounts. Multitask right now quote today at progressive.com progressive casualty and trans company and affiliates National average 12 month savings of $744 by new customer surveyed who saved with progress between June 2022 and May 2023. Potential Savings will vary, discounts not available in all safe and situations. Are you working way too hard for way too little? There's never been a better time to consider a career in IT.

You could enjoy a recession-resistant career in a rewarding field, with plenty of growth opportunities and often, flexible work environments. Go to mycomputercareer.edu and take the free career evaluation. You could start your new career in months, not years. Take classes online or on campus and financial aid is available to qualified students, including the GI Bill. Now is the time. Mycomputercareer.edu So typical of our generation. We aren't willing to go to book or film. Well, I can't, I can't.

We say, hey Siri, you know, we just want, we just want the answers. I want to click on a hyperlink and it to take me to the book. Yeah, give me all the answers, Siri. Yeah, you dog. On July 21st, 1930, also read on July 30th. So even the day they left, it was different. Somewhere in that week. Yeah, but also maybe they left it different times.

Maybe the plane left it a different time from the truck or something. So I think the idea was the plane would be out of sight stuff from above and they'd be able to communicate between the two and help each other. But that sort of fell apart when the plane fell apart. And when they didn't have the right radio equipment. Oh, dear. So they head off from Alice Springs, heading west for a place called El Bilba or El Billah. The big six-wheel truck made it less than a couple of hundred meters before it got badly bogged. So still within side of the town. So people are still clapping as they leave.

Probably the people of our springs weren't even that excited about it. Like people come here looking for gold all the time. Not ever finds that people always hit trouble. It's just another, yeah, basically good on you guys. That truck is so big and stupid, it's not gonna work. And they're watching it, not even get out of sight before it gets bogged. Last hit is leaning out the window being like, not even get out of sight before it gets bold.

Blast it as leaning out the window being like, yeah, it out dust. This time will be different. You'll regret the day you didn't join my ex, hang on. Sorry, I have a dear. Put in, put in drive. Oh it is. Oh no. Reverse, oh you can. You have formal drive mode. Yeah, Kenny, you guys, the guys that has told to go fuck themselves, can you get us a push? So they're watching as they take quite a while to dig it out and keep going.

And also, I mean, the truck is essential because it has the fuel for the plane, but it made no longer a system. And the radio that doesn't really work. No, no, no, no, it's the backup car that fuels the big truck. Oh, God. No. So obviously already there, I think especially Blakely's gone, the camels was the idea. We should be doing it the way that people have done it.

There's a guy who rents out camels just watching all this happen and he's like changing the sign. I'm putting up his prices. Adding zero. He's like, oh, we go. Lacer has been described at different times of the trip as peculiar, uncooperative, suspicious, and sulky. Oh, I love sulky as an adjective. That's a real great mix. Oh, he's so salty. And so peculiar and salty. Dream, bro.

What was the other one suspicious? Suspicious and uncooperative. Oh my God, my dream man. Is he single? I'm heading out. Where are you going? Oh, I don't care. Yeah, go out. I don't, I don't even care anyway. Because I'm a weirdo. I'm not helping, where are you going? Oh, I don't care. Yeah, go out, I don't even care anyway.

Cause I'm a weirdo. But I'm not helping you open that door. Okay, bye, honey. Oh, God, the dream. One day, I'll be so lucky. Not long into the journey, the leader Blakely, and also most of the team found less that it'd be much less familiar with you out back

than he initially let on. What's that? That's a tree. Ah, cool. I need that. Yeah, I've seen it before. To others in the expedition, it seemed like any of his purported knowledge could have been found in a book. Basically, he seemed like a guy who had no first sound experience of the era. He had read a book. Yeah, apparently big reader. Something that Matt is not prepared to do about. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh. Uh, he would tell the other city recognize trees that weren't old enough to have been there. He doesn't know what a tree is. He's pointing like a small push. Warren Brown is the example. He's like, yeah, I slept in a hammock between these two trees here.

And they're like, they could not have been here 30 years ago. And he's like, no, no, no. Sulking now. Because that's when it was sucking. When people called him on these bullshit. Yeah, it sounds like it was just kind of making stuff up as it was going on. Oh, we go, yeah, this way, I guess now. Oh dear. But what's his plans? If the goal doesn't exist and he's not insane and believes it does exist, what is he hoping will happen that they might accidentally find something and he'll be like, there it is, that's it. It's hard. How do you back out of this? You get halfway there and then you got to come all the way

back. It's, yeah, your guess is as good as mine Dave. According to the New South Wales State Library again, his descriptions of the reef were vague at best, and he seemed to possess almost no navigational abilities. Do you think he just wanted friends? It does feel a bit like that. Bit lonely. Just start a club or something. Don't you know how to take people out into the middle of the desert?

That's murdery. Just like, just like join a cricket team, you know? Right. That's a good way to make friends if you're a weirdo. But I mean, if... Cricketers are all weirdos. It's so weird. It doesn't really make sense though, because it was, because it was lonely, because on the trip, he kept mainly to himself. He kept him separate from the group, including sleeping away from the others. And he was often found singing his Mormon hymns

and writing in his journal. Dear diary. Happy birthday, Jane. And that was about the moment, sort of. Happy birthday. I'll come to it. That classic Mormon birthday hymn. See the buff. Happy birthday, hi, up. All of this led to growing worries in the group

that they're on a wild goose chase. And it sounds like Lassiter did little to reassure them. It also sounds like, Blakely potentially even thought, even kind of knew this from the start, but there was some pressure on him to potentially, at least have a crack first and make sure that it's bullshit, rather than quitting at the start when he's like,

this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. And then he'd leave himself open to Lassi DeGon, I would have taken you to it, but you called it off, not me. Right. So he sort of, he was like, if he went back then, he might have been in trouble for bailing, even though he was like this guy, sounds like he does not know what he's talking about at all.

One day, this is a weird sort of thing that happened. One day, when they were camped out, a line of camels came through, being led by a German man, as well as a couple of indigenous men, and the German was named Paul Johns, right, and he was keen to get joined up with the group him and his camels.

He was a bushman and a dingo trapper, as well as he was from a German missionary, not too far away. Right, but someone who actually knows how to live on the land. He sounds like a good resource. Yeah, I'd recognize a team out with this guy. Yeah. But he's also, he sounds like he's also a bit of a loose unit, but he also, he's sort of like a,

he knows what he's doing on the land sort of anyway. Living in a working on the land. Is it? La, la, la, la. And also, another thing Warren Brown said was that one thing that everyone knew how to do if you lived on the land back then especially And sorry if you lived and worked on the land If you were living and working on the land What did you do back then?

Everyone would know how to make dampers like one of the most basic skills flour and water Cook it at sort of like a bush bread. Like a scone almost. My mum knows how to make damper. And she sure was a country kid, but like an hour out of the city, you know? Yeah, yeah. So yeah, he should know if you've lived on the land,

you should know how to make damper. And if you've walked from Queensland to the west. Yeah, you'd probably know how to make damper. And if you've walked from Queensland to the West Coast. Yeah, you'd probably know how to make damper. Basically, walking from Queensland to Western Australia is like walking from California to New York. It's so far. Maybe something like that right, Dave. Yeah, I mean, for a reference, yeah.

Australia is very big. It's a similar width to the US, I think. Yeah, if you want, I don't know if he's gone coast to coast, but yeah, it's so. I think that's basically the idea is almost. Far out. Or the plan was, yeah, so far. Or his story was the. Yes.

Right. So anyway, they're saying, Samper, you should be able to, yeah, there's a butt. And then, yeah, he had no idea how to make it. So people are like, what is this is just another thing at all? It must have been like, I I mean I'm not even surprised anymore no but imagine if that is a big red flag you can't make damper oh they all break down that was not crying the penny drops all right fine I've never seen that tree

before I'm a fraud I don't even know what gold is I tried to sell a red rock as a ruby I'm a fraud. I don't even know what gold is. I tried to sell a red rock as a ruby. I'm a fuck with. Like most of the story, it seems every every version of reads a little bit different because also you know the diversion of the story from different sources, immediately different people in the group. A few of them wrote their versions of the story and then other people have tried a piece together from that. So there's all these different kind of versions. One of the things that I read happened next was that they reached Mount Marjorie and when they got there, Lacer over Sun was like, actually you guys were 150 miles too far north of where we should be.

Apparently that was the last tour. Blakely's like, you don't know what you're talking about. Stop fucking with us, that's it. Another version of it, this is what Warren Brown said. He said that they reached this great big natural landmark because it's a huge sort of basin, kind of almost like a mini-grand canyon. Right. It's like anyone would know it. If you'd been anywhere around, he'd know this spot

and he clearly had never seen it before. And apparently- Everyone's going, oh wow, and he's like, wow! I mean, uh, yarn. Oh, been here done that. Yeah Been here done that This whole thing huh you guys are cute. Anyway, whatever. I'm cool and maybe he was even saying let's go down into that and they're like if we take our Trucks and stuff down there we die it just won't happen So probably that so something like that some big event happened that was the last short What a reason and they go mate you are full of shit. They finally sort of caught him out on it

and said We you can just go we'll leave you we won't we won't take you back in and And tell the cops and everything that you've wasted all this money You can just go find your gold whatever we're going back to our springs. So they all left apart from Lasseter and the German. So the German has joined them and he stuck with the German John. Well, I guess the Germans kind of like, well, I know how to survive out here anyway, right? So I'll be fine even if this idiot does the German. And it also sounds like through all of it, everyone basically thinks it's bullshit,

but there's always part of everyone is like, maybe. Yeah, you don't wanna be the one who calls bullshit, and then it pays off and everybody's mega rich. Everyone's like, mega mega mega rich, and you're like, my fuck, stuck in the great depression. I think that's how people get caught in like, playing the lottery every week. I've gotta play the same numbers every week

I can't bail this week this week would be the week we get my numbers Exactly. I'm going to pay another 15 bucks every week 15 bucks I'm part of a syndicate at work and I have that exact mindset. Yeah, it's hard to trap This is trap now $5 every week. I knew it's been nearly two years now You imagine it's never going to be the same But you put that five bucks in a some sort of investment or a term deposit or something. Well, like buy myself a pie or something really nice.

Yeah, just enjoy it at the time. That's trying to get at the fact that like, if you just put $5 a side and left it there, you'd have some money and you're like, or I could get a pie. I'd probably be a happier guy. But you go. But now I would've had over 100 extra pies in my lifetime. You're like home or when he had shares in the power plant,

or everyone had shares and he got a call from his stockbroker and he's like, $15. He's like, oh, when he pictures, he could buy a nice hammer. So he caches out and everyone else doesn't tell like soon after and they're all millionaires when he gets he could buy a nice hammer. So he caches out and everyone else doesn't until like soon after and they're all millionaires. When he gets gold teeth, I think. I haven't. So there's not someone I don't get, no,

it gets his face permanently put into a smile. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Dave, that was a cutest thing ever. All right, could get a pie. Yeah, that's also what Matt was getting at, yeah, invest. Yeah, invest in a pie. Yeah, that's also what Matt was getting at. Yeah, invest in a pie. Invest in a pie. Yeah.

Yeah, that's something, you know, that'll always appreciate and value. Yeah, exactly. And then you're a pie. It always goes up, not down. My weight, though. LAUGHTER So this is, I think, around or a bit less than two months

since they set off. He was left with just the German Paul Jones. Are the indigenous fellas to with him? I'm not sure. I don't think so. I think it's just a pretty sure it's just to have a couple of camels at least. Yeah, they do have the camel still. So they're they're in some decent shape, assuming that there is this gold thing that they're looking for. This is from the New South State Library page again about John's Lasseter, though.

Their relationship quickly grew turbulent. Lasseter was determined to push on at all costs, and having overtired their camels, decided to leave them with Johns for a few days while he continued his search. He went off alone on foot again. Oh, left behind the desert expert. The desert expert and the camels,

which they tied out, they tied out. Camels, how untied you? Yeah, if the camels are knackered, then... You need to rest too. It's time for everyone to rest. I have a snooze. That is, yes. I have a snooze.

I don't know, they don't tie that easily in the desert being their home. Who knows? And they're known to not tie. Right, yeah. So they're like the integers of camels. And they got humps on them. Yeah.

It's a nice thing that song. My hump, my hump, my hump. I've got a hump on my back. Check it hump, my hump. I've got a hump on my back. Check it out, my hump, on the camel. That was a big hit. Love that song. Lasseter returned a couple of days later. With him, he had a bag of samples.

He said, yes, I found the fabled. No, okay, if he's got, well, if you can show gold that you didn't have before, I would be, but how do we know he didn't have it before? He's been carrying a bag of gold. He sounds like a fucking it sounds like something he would do. If I know last I don't think I do. Yeah You know his time. I know his time. So he's got this bag gold right and John's like awesome. Let me check it out and last it has said no way. What?

He's like, I don't want you to say it, I don't have to. That's the whole point. What's the point of the bag of samples? I don't understand. It's like he never thinks anything through. He's like, I'll prove to him. I'll just show him this bag. And he'll be like, oh, I assume that's full of gold. No more questions. Let's keep on with the search. Anyway,

that led to a fist fight between the men. John pulled a gun. Okay. They continued a wrestle. Somehow, Lasseter took control of the gun, Pointer John's, and he's like, stand down. Holy shit! Then they took a breath, calmed down, and went, all right, fine. Let's go our separate ways. John's goes, I'm out of here. I'm heading back to Alice Springs. Apparently then, Lassiter wrote a letter to the cops. And he gave it to John's head, deliver this to the cops, please.

And then they parted ways. And there was another letter saying, send help. This is where he is. A send supplies for Lasseter. John's headed off. He opened the letter, read it. And the letter said, arrest this man, he pulled a gun on it. He wasn't going to read it. And he's basically saying take yourself off to the police

mate. Imagine he's like, he's a letter anyway. See, a letter to look. I hang on a second. Like, John's read it and he's like, all right, well, I'm not going to be going to the cops. And he took a big detour. He went back past his mission. So he's also the meaning that the letter saying, hey, send supplies back out. That's also not going out.

But on the way was lasted of like, thanks so much, mate. Just hand this into the question. Anyway, great to disagree. Appreciate everything you've done. Don't read the letter. I'm so glad. I know we've had it ups and downs, but I'll always treasure you.

And if you're ever in town, hit me up. Yeah. Don't read the letter. Goodbye. I always remember what I say. Don't read that letter. All right. But hand it over to the police officer

and then stick around for a bit. Yeah, just see what happens. They might have questions for you. But that is a... They might have trouble reading my handwriting or something. That is such a bold move. What a deal! The person is going to save you.

You also set him up hoping they won't discover it. Rest this man. You little dumber. Real fun. Yeah, it's just like how much you've gone through all this weird stuff. Just let it go. You're going your separate ways. You're also pointed a gun at him. Yeah it's a little bit weird. I mean like you're not that attestified against him. He's not going to get a job. No. So now he's all alone.

He, I mean, according to him, he's got a lot of experience out there. What, seemingly though, he doesn't, and it's probably bad news that he's stuck out there by himself. He wasn't heard from for quite a while, or at all. Oh my God. Or ever again. Or ever again.

Oh, okay, understood. Not that surprised, to be honest. There was no huge rush apparently to go search. So I'm like, eh, you're gonna wait. But then a local man, a few months later, named Bob Buck. Yes! Bobby Buck.

He took out a search party to find him. And in March of 1931 the following year they found his body and his journal In it Lasseter made multiple final entries Like this is my last entry All right, all right, I know I said that was the last one This is the last one it reminds me of who was the guy that died out in the wilderness? Con.

Yeah, and it was like, today was a really bad day, but I don't want to talk about it. Yeah, I get it. It's sort of a shame that, I mean, we should be able to track down this journal, but I assume it's something like, I can't go on. You won't be hearing from me again. Fair, well, cool world. And then the next page, hey, I know I said, there's a bit embarrassing.

Anyway, I'm still kicking. Turns out I'm still alive. But this time I've got to say, I can't go on. And I mean it this time. Honestly, I think today's the last day. Yeah. And I don't want you to think I died yesterday if I died a day.

Yeah. So today, death day, okay. Time of death now. Bye bye bye. Bye. See you. All right. Oh, good.

Love you, bye. Bye bye. Next page. Hi, Cass. You were not right about it. The next page is ppppppps. This is getting ridiculous. I admit it.

Really? I thought what? But I just will not die. Yeah, got a real kick of energy, you know, you've been running laps. The end. Oh, so I thought, post-credit. His last-door entry is also suggested. Well, his last last, his very final. Well, Ed, some of them were were in the group of his last. He suggested local Aboriginal communities helped him find water and shelter, which helped

him, I'm guessing pro-long is laugh a little bit. He also made an entry claim that he was able to at last refine the reef, which I don't know if that's separate from the one that he told John's that he found. Yeah. So he's really found the reef and then died not on the reef. Yeah, so when the family was not on the reef anymore No, yeah, he's gone then he's gone back to his Where he's and I wandered for?

36 hours in an unknown direction, so don't even try honestly Yeah, don't even try what would if you were dying and you found the reef, I feel like you'd just go, all right, my bones will be here at least. Yeah. But I guess if he did find it, he still was like, I'll go back because that's where my suppliers are gonna be coming to. That would be maybe the logic of it,

but and I definitely know how to get back there now. Okay, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, he also, so as estimated that he lasted about 16 weeks after John's left, whoa, before dying of starvation, it shores creek and the pitamen ranges. That's pretty good. Yeah, I'm surprised who lasted that long. And that basically brings us to the end of the report, but it's just quite an interesting sort of, what do you call the end bit like an addendum? Yeah. Sure. Footnote. And that is, I mean, this could be a whole other thing, but there are theories around this diary that it may have been a fake. What? The diary that was found with all these entries in it, right? Apparently, Blakely saw the die when it was brought back to town.

He's like, never seen that book before. He was writing in a journal a lot, but it wasn't that. It was a totally different, this beautifully bound book. It had looked nothing like this little red book that you've brought back. He's like, yeah, I don't think that's his diary. Okay. One theory is, and this sounds like a relatively strong one, is that Bob Buck faked the diary so that he could prove that Lasseter died, so that he could access the paper with the gold's coordinates in invisible ink. The only way you could get that was

to prove that he was dead. So he goes, here's his diary, here's him saying, I'm dying. But did he also have bones? They also found a body, but it was so badly decomposed. There could have been anyone, but the diary on the, on near the bones. The diary proved it. It says it, supposedly. Oh, that's so interesting. Yeah. So did they access the boat? There was a big fight. Initially, that's so interesting. Yeah. So did they access the code? There was a big fight. Initially, the bank saying, no, that's not enough evidence.

We need death certificate. We need real proof. Eventually, the document with the invisible link was taken out, looked at, and it turns out that Lacerid just written a bunch of gibberish numbers didn't mean anything on it. Oh, my God. So there weren't any actual coordinates to follow. No. Which you could argue he, wow, he was just bluffing because he didn't want to give it away. No, I think he's just... No, he's just...

Wow. But this also leads to the fake Dari also leads the possibility that Lasseter didn't actually die then at all. Are you still alive now? Oh my goodness. They're on goal. There are many theories that he left and went back to America and the Mormon church hid him from the screw to the heart.

I don't know. Others say that. Nobody really looked for him. Yeah, no one. So he's been his whole life in America hiding. He's in a bunker. In a tiny bunker. No one's looking for you.

No one cares, mate. No, like glad you're gone. So he's, other people like, there were people cited him in other places as well. So there's thoughts that he went went back to Sydney and Canberra and, you know, he sort of spotted all over the place. And then apparently, apparently one day, this is called in Warren Brown, Bob Buck, this swashbuckling character bumped in a Blakely at a pub.

And Blakely's like It's not it wasn't him was it you that's not his real dar is it and apparently so the story goes Bob Buck was like Command don't don't fuck this up for me Apparently and then he said it in way more poetic language No, I was probably similar and then And then apparently Bob Buck said to him, he goes, was it his, Bob Buck was asked, was that his body?

Yeah. And Bob Buck's like, to be honest, I couldn't even be sure if it was a black man or a white man. Wow. So it's just bones by that point. So, okay, so if he's gone out with this fake diary, do you reckon hit, is he just looking for anybody? He's just hoping to find a body and then he'll be like, well, that's

him. Got him. But like, what are the chances? Yeah, I mean, it all sounds weird to me. And it's like how much of, it all feels like it's, it's like levels of fiction on top of whatever actually happen. Like the, it's hard to grip onto anything. It all feels like shifting sand in your hands. It all feels very false, right? Yeah. That is insane. But it's just so, all of it is so weird. And it's funny, like you said, David, I'd heard the term

Lassarder's Reef. I assumed it was a surf break somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like point cook. Lassarder's Reef. Point cook. Yeah, you hear, like point cook. Lasseter's reef. Point cook. Yeah. And known surf point.

Oh no, that is, no you're right. And that is a bit, sorry Dave. You know, just like a, like a, like just a name of a local place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, no gold was ever found. Still to this day, but... That's wild! So, as last year's reef, then,

is it like, the term is used for like a wild goose chase kind of thing? When people, they're still people today who believe it's real. And there are documentaries made like five years ago searching for it. And did they find it? It's, no, it's never been found. But it's still something that people today believe is out there. He also had a son. He left his son, Lassiter, for this expedition

when his son was five, and his son grew up believing his dad. He believes the die is real. There was an interview with him with ABC about five years ago talking about He's alive now. Well, he was alive five years ago. That made him pretty fine. He's alive, okay, right. Yeah, right. So he could still be around, but he was like, he blamed Blakely

and he reckoned Blakely made up a lot of bullshit around it. So he thinks what Lassiter said was true, he believes his dad, but I guess you would. That there was a gold reef out there. Yeah, people are still haven't found. He still believe there was part of the diary that said that he, because he re-founded, he put down the coordinates, he said, I'm bearing it on a piece of paper in this certain spot. Supposedly, that piece of paper was dug up, but it was just fallen pieces by the time it was found. So it feels like everyone's a little bit full of shit in this story, doesn't it?

And especially me. I made this up. That's in that, it's a wild tale. That is so great. It's a wild tale. I'd love to see it turned into a big movie. It really builds. Yeah.

What, yeah, it's like, what was that dude's name? He made the Australian movie? Baz Lerman. It was about some people on a farm. Surely this is a movie that's called Australia. Well, he's famous in making quality films. Nah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, hi, you're on. Whoa, shots fired.

Cuphead bars. Yeah, take that, bars. Bazaar. I do enjoy Strictly Baldwin, but the others. No, thank you. Even Romeo and Juliet. No, thank you. But I thought that was well regarded, but not really.

What about Mulan Rouge? Not really? Yeah, I'm just not a really big fan myself. And thank you. So that is the end of the report. Thanks so much for listening to it. No, thank you. That was a classic tale. Thanks so much to Jess and Mike Husson Vinny for suggesting it.

So Jess and Cousin Vinny. You're welcome on behalf of both myself, Jess from Melbourne, and Mike Husson Vinny from New Jersey. No, I'm not. I love you, Kaz. That was a great report, I think. Thank you so much. Yeah, I found it very fascinating, but also, yeah, it was one of,

I mean, I was a classic me writing it right up to when we started recording, but I could have, it's the kind of one I kept finding great facts as we went along. Yeah. And I did spend the last few days on it. It's funny when you go deep into that. I'll be dreaming about it tonight for sure.

Me too. You know when you go out, you get right into something like that and it's just like you start thinking like it. Yeah. That was so interesting. And can I say something that's not interesting at all. The little fact check here, the possum I refer to was actually the politician's name is Patrick Gorman, not Fraser A. Gorman, which is Fraser A. Gorman, the singer's songwriter.

I thought that was a weird coincidence. It was music I do enjoy, but Patrick possum Gorman, that is a real story, politician from Perth, I probably said that late as well, so I got half the facts right, as often is the way with memory. But yes, just in case, I don't think that there's big, any big, perth political buffs out there. But if you have tweeted, delete it. And apologize.

Embarrassing for all of us. Deleted and apologized. Tweet it, delete it. That sound fun. That's what I'm going to delete. Tweet and delete. That brings us to the fantastic segment of the show. The Patreon-sponsored fact-quote or quest. It is fantastic. David, do you have a quick description of how this works?

Well, basically, we have a Patreon, which we started a couple of years ago now, for people that listen to the show every week, that want to keep it rolling with a little bit of a donation every single month. And in exchange for that, you get bonus stuff every single month, including two bonus episodes that no one else here. And other stuff like pre-sales to shows that we're doing that before it allows here's about it, shout-outs on an episode, and also at a certain level, you get to suggest a fact or a question for Matt to read out. That's right. And you also get to give yourself a title. This week's Fact Quotal question. Funnily enough, it's from another Vinny.

Vincienzo Giovanni Bonadonna. Oh, beautiful. Wow. I've got neighbors that I met at Christmas time and they have the tiny little Italian greyhound. They're like the tiniest little dogs ever. And they said, they named him Vincienzo because he's an Italian greyhound. And I said, do you call him Vinnie?

And I said, nah, Chenzo. Chenzo. Oh, cutes it. Like Chenzo. Chenzo. He's given himself the title. I mean, he's opted not to go with Chenzo. He's gone with that guy.

And if already taken, then I'll be that other guy. Oh, nice. I thought it was him. That guy was not, he sure thought it was taken. Oh, that guy was taken, sorry. That other guy. I've just checked. Vincienzo, fantastic title.

And he's given us a quote. Oh, I love it quite. And this is it. And as I normally warn everyone, this is the first time I'm reading these things We could just read them ahead of time. I think there's some there's some sort of fun There's a bit of charm and you know, so I'll just I want to discover it with everyone else. That's beautiful. Please. Here we go If it is in your power to do something good then do it That's the quite that's a great quote. That's a nice attributed to do something good, then do it. That's the quote, that's a great quote.

That's a nice attribute to 21 or possibly. Yes, these little paragraph here, explaining it, the reason I chose this quote, which is a personal, oh, a little is gonna say personal favorite, but he said, which is a personal quote of mine? It's quoted himself, which I love. It's because when I first joined the Patreon,

I was going to suggest Bill Finger as a topic, but I was too late, because a day later, I noticed Batman was the topic for the week. If Bob Kane had done the right thing, then who knows what different things could have happened for Bill Finger and his family. And it shouldn't have taken so long for him to get his recognition.

Finn Chanzo. And then that inspired a beautiful quote. That is, that's so good. I reckon that's our most, well, I want to, without a wedding proposal. Yeah. But I think that maybe even more sincere than that. That was lovely.

That's so nice. Thanks, Finch Enzo. If it is in your power to do something good, then do it. I would have had a dickhead, but that's, this is not my place. And it probably doesn't feel quite on-brand. No, that's not on-brand. Certainly not for Vincianzo. No. If it isn't your powder, do something good then do it.

Thank you so much, Vincianzo. And to the level that Dave was talking about there, is the Sydney Shineberg. The Lux package on Patreon. That's right. So thank you so much for that, Vincianzo. And did the Chinese vote on this topic as well? Yes. That's right. So thank you so much for that, Michenzo. Did the Chinese vote on this topic as well? Yes, that's right.

So it's an exclusive hat that only people in that tier get to vote for one of the three of our topics. And it is, there's not heaps of people in there. So the votes are always close. Every vote definitely counts. You can actually sway it with your votes. I'm pretty sure this one, seven, six or 6, 5, it was very close. Very close.

I put up six topics and I think there were at one point, no level, and I think it had only been like 7 to 6 to 6 to 5 with the top four topics. Very, very close. And then Dodd-Breadman on zero. Dodd-Breadman, maybe on one. I'll get Don up eventually. Get him up. The Babe Ruth of Australian cricket. Come on.

If you don't find the history of Babe Ruth boring, then what about a more obscure guy that you don't know of? Babe Ruth was left handed. Is that true? Well Don Bradman taught himself cricket in the backyard, hitting a golf ball with a stick. A stump. Damn it. That's why I got to do a report.

Why do you know that? You don't know anything else, Paul. That's how we got these. That's just one of those fable things that we got. He's good eye. You said just hit a tiny ball with a skinny sticky. So then it was a bit easier to hit a big ball with a wide stick. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, I imagine generations since have tried it and not been tried to fly about that's

been of the same sort. There's also the, I think it was maybe the first Melbourne Cup when I think it was Archer and the story goes that they walked it down from Queensland or something. For the race, I don't want to. The other time, it was like, 3,000 meters. Peace appears. Yeah. Another of my relatives rode in the Melbourne Cup. Like one of the really early ones.

John Nicholas Perkins or something. No kidding. And there's the horse called flat catcher. Flat catcher. Flat catcher. What does that mean? It's a big portrait of it in my parents' house. Catching flat. Yeah, catching flat. I don't want to catcher. Flat cata. What is the big portrait of it in my parents catching flat? Yeah, catch from flat

Why is that like a house out difficult to understand? Well catch a flat catch a flat Oh now they have set it again. It was that third time that it sunk in another thing that we do as well At the end of every episode is we thank some of our patrons as well So I reckon it's about that time now. It is definitely is. And we normally do a bit of a game, Papa, what are we doing for these people's names? So, Lassard is reef.

Yeah. Let's give them a surname, something. A surname, something, and it's some sort of riches. Hidden riches or hidden something. It could be anything but it's riches. Yeah. It's a hidden riches somewhere. It's knowledge. All right, great. It's a hidden riches somewhere. It's knowledge.

All right, great. Because knowledge is the ultimate power. Fight me on it, Dave. I can't. Correct. Dave, do you want to kick us off? Yes, I would like to thank a long term supporter and Interactor of the show, first of all, from East Sussex in

Great Britain. I would like to thank James Roy III. James Roy. Roy Boy. Just Roy Boy. Actually, I think it might just be James Roy, but then when Patron spattered out, he's addressed, which I couldn't reveal start

to the number three, is now just attached to E on his surname, so it looks like James Roy III. It's just James Roy. I think it's just James Roy Roy boy. Thank you so much for your support over the years. The Roy's. Roy's riches.

Oh Roy's riches. Oh that's good. And where are they hidden in the Australian Outback? Yeah. We're going to discover all of the Australian Outback. And also I was, because James Roy is such a great guy, I'm predicting that he will have a son, who will have a son also I was, because James Roy is such a great guy, I'm predicting that he will have a son, who will have a son, and they'll all be James Roy. So there

will be three James Roy's if there's not already James. And thank you. I hope you spend those riches wisely. Riches. I did you want to have a go? No, no. I'm just noticing a common trend of me putting myself out there being vulnerable. How do you go? How do you get a bit of fun and you just shitting all over it? I just wasn't the top the broad umbrella topic was riches. Yeah, but I like a little ration. All right Roy's rubies. You happy? No.

Oh shit. Roy's, Roy's riches are rubies. That's so good. Sorry Bob. Roy's riches is great. I think it should be Roy's riches of Ruby. That's so good. Sorry, Bob. Roy's riches is great. I think it should be Roy's Ruby riches. Oh, right. That sounds hot. Sounds hot. Mm-hmm. Am I saying that right? Not sure if you are. Depends on how you mean it. But, yes, thank you, James Roy. Thank you. Thank you, Roy Boy. I would like to thank also for our new South Wales. From Q. I've got a Q and Victoria. I would like to thank also from our New South Wales, from Q.

Got a Q and Victoria. I'd love to do this one in New South Wales as well. We've got Michael Kendon. Kendon, sounds like Kendol. Kendol. Yeah, so maybe pristine Barbies. Oh, yes, because they'd be worth a lot of money, but you would not want to bury them in the desert.

Original series. Oh. Like I said, they're not in the desert. A regional series. Oh! Like I said, they're not in the desert. They're in a storage facility. Yeah. Hidden in desert. Hidden. Below ground, a kuba peaty.

Temperature controlled. Yes. Temperature controlled. Kendans, kendol, Ken and Bobby dolls. Oh yeah, you're going to be rich. That sounds good. They make you move about Bobby. Margot Robbie's going to play Bobby.

Yeah, that's an international thing. Barbies. Barbies. Yep. They're not Australian. I've got an understanding. No, maybe I don't know if I can know. They are not Australian.

They're not Australian. Cause I know in America that I've leased in the line heart. And Malibu Stacey. Yeah, that's true. They do have that in America. Yeah. Which is of course a parody of Barbie Can I thank some people? Yes, please I would like to thank from

Hammondville in New South Wales also. I mean speaking of riches. Am I right? Yeah sounds like Okay, did community. Yeah, it's a community named after Richard Hammond. Oh, it's being you've top gear. Yeah, I'd like to thank Will Thurston. Oh another another great long-term supporter as all of these people are true I When I hear Hammond I think organs Oh, I say like body organs human organs. Yeah, I think. Is he traffic in organs? Oh, will Thurston's Hammond? There is a lot of human organs.

There is a lot of money in that. Yeah, a lot of money in organ. Yeah. Not that I know, I've looked into it. What? So maybe it's Will's organ warehouse. Come on down. Come on down.

I've got livers, kidneys, hearts. I just don't know where I've left my storage facility. So I come on the search with me and get a new laugh. Yeah. Yeah, it's temperature control. Temper control. Temper control, I just yelled. I don't have that.

Will, first and thank you. Thank you for your service to the healthcare system. Potentially, you know, if we fund, we have a fund. Yeah, if we ever find those organs. Yeah, we'll look up a blood type and find out what we need. Why did you get those organs? I'm a positive, if you need anything, Will. I'm a positive, you should shut up.

Wow. I'm not positive you should shut up Wow I once texted I once thought about no, I don't know text on my mom and she said I don't know I'm like if she doesn't know and I don't know. I don't think anyone on earth does Yeah, there's no way anybody would ever be able to tell I can't I think I'm one of the normal ones Yeah, what are you what's all positives that normal? Yeah, very normal. It's universal donor. Can someone do some of that information, how that you've met a public? Yeah, they can give blood to me if I need a blood transfusion. Could they somehow like sort of build your DNA genome? Based on my most common blood type. Or could they get, maybe? Could they get a credit card in your name? Oh, knowing my blood type. Yeah, I'm just

pergames. Are you, can you prove it? My blood type's open. A positive. Any further questions? No, this is for the next question. Please, please access this bank vault with a secret letter written in a physical link on it. It just says, keep doing you.

Right, that would be something I would put in a vault because I'll never have money. Thank you to Will, I'd also like to thank from California. Oh California. Oh I went hotel California. Oh really? Well you're doing it wrong. Welcome to the hotel California. I'd like to thank Kali Hall. Kali Hall. Kali Hall. Kali's Hall of Horse Meat. Wow Kali. Hall of Horse Meat.

Wow, Kali. Hall is in like a passageway or is in a big, big, big, old, big, old. Like the Great Hall. Yeah, like the local town hall. Oh, wow. Kali's town hall of horse meat. I really hope Kali is vegetarian.

Is that so? I suppose it was. Jess hopes that all Ellices of Editarians stop pushing your beliefs on them, Jess. Jess, this is supporting me. I just meant because you've given a mate and she might not like that. Horse mate, it's a particular one as well.

Yeah, it is a particular one. Yeah, it's a particular kind of mate. Comes from horses. Has a horses. So thank you to Carly and enjoy that whole of horse meat. Yeah, it's a horse and around. Yeah. If I could thank a couple of their fantastic supporters

as well, please. Please, please. Please. Could I thank from Cremorn in East South Wales? We've also got a Cremorn there. Yeah, I mean, there's so many names. Why did we just name them all the same? There's a Richmond there too Every way yeah, what's with Richmond? That is Richmond from Cremor. I'd love to thank Craig

Scrobeck Craig Scrobeck he's bringing Scrobeck and He's bringing... ...scrowback and uh... Also, I think what he's got is... ...a bottomless pit of love. Oh, Craig's bottomless pit of love?

Take it dip and Craig's bottomless pit of love. Wow, is it in the desert? Yeah. And my, me saying Roy's riches God your abuse Okay, yeah bottom is pit of love that is never ending that commodity is invaluable invaluable and Inexhaustible yeah, if you find crags Good luck though because that is hard to find Does it exist craggy tell us yeah hard to say I believe him takes work take work you tell us. Yeah, hard to say. I believe him.

It takes work. It takes work to get to that point of his good love. It's about communication. Commitment, patience, empathy, and soul. Well, soul to your hearts content. I'm your soul. Thank you so much, Mr. Craig, Scrobeck, and I'd also love to thank from Eastern Cape South Africa or South Africa. I mean, Eastern Cape, that's obviously next to Las Vegas Reef and Point Cook. I'd love to thank John Luke, McGlagan. Oh, I like that. John Luke McGlagan.

John Luke, yeah, John Luke McGlaggan. John Luke McGlaggan. Yeah, so it's a Scottish last name, sort of a French sounding first name in the New Zealand South Africa. What is John Luke? He's a man of the world. I love that. I like that a lot. I think he has found, somewhat across, hasn't been able to refine it since but if we join him he will find his big

pit of This one's got a bottom It's full agn fact of golden bottom prints So people what's that mean? It means people have made plastic hearts with their butts and they've been filled with liquid gold until they harden, and then we got hard golden butts. I've already got a hard golden butt.

And then they throw it in. Help me! They throw it in through. They throw it in, and this was an ancient thing. It was a ceremony that used to happen. The king and the queen would both goldenize their butts on their wedding night and they would chuck them in the pit of butts. Chuck them in the pit of butts.

And then yeah, you know, the pit of butts. The civilization eventually fell down when they went for one night. When the king dropped tr dropped rare, he found, he was gonna have three cheeks. And that started the end of that civilization. And it was buried somewhere under a jungle. It's buried under a jungle fell on top of it. So it is deep, but John Luke McGlock has found it.

And he reckons he can find our way back there and where where with you all the way John Luke I cannot wait for Indiana Jones and the temple of the golden butt yeah that sounds like it's gonna be great yeah it is can I make a cast in my butt yeah thank you I've been doing squats I mean my whole life is built up to this moment I mean my whole life is built up to this I Try to look at my butt and I can't say it. Oh you got a double mirror that what I gotta get a set up a double mirror I mean you can't see it I'm gonna say a single mirror should do it like a dog trying it like try to say it's not see the double mirror sure

No single mirror should be good. I'm looking right now. I can't I can't see it you need to get a mirror and I mean you're double mirror, sure. No, it's single-moving. I'm looking right now, I can't. I can't say it. You need to get a mirror. And, I mean, you're sitting on your... Why can't I just get a cast? I'm looking right at mine. Yeah, all right, mate.

I'm looking at the front of mine. Anyhow, front butt. Thank you to all the Patreon supporters. You make a world of difference in the lives of us three people. And I hope that you enjoy all the engagement that we also give you in the Patreon or on the Facebook group.

Yes, so. So just us chatting in there, you guys have started chatting a lot with each other. We love that. So good. Love jumping in there and getting distracted from other work. That's real nice.

It's a real, it's that I genuinely, such an ask community, it's so nice. And can't wait to be, it sounds like a such a nice community. It's so nice and can't wait to be, it sounds like a bunch of people in there are going to be seeing us at upcoming live shows which can be really nice to meet people. And there's a thread in there, or there was a thread in there a month or so ago, I think it still gets added to a little bit about where people hope we come to in America. And as we said, I think in last weeks of the week before the episode, we're really keen to start

making some plans. And if anyone has any expertise in the field of American podcast touring, please get in touch. Yeah. Some sort of diplomat that can wield some sort of power or give us diplomatic immunity, for example. Or as some people say, diplomatic immunity.

That's what John Luke would say. Yes. Or John Luck. As I probably should have had a cracker just in case. Just in case. John Luck. We should also say before we wrap up that Dave and I do many do go on spin off podcast.

Dave does one about classic novels. He reads them so you don't have to and he brings a couple of guests in, and he tells them in a very funny way. It's a very similar sort of setup to do go on. Yeah, a bit of a report happening, and people chiming in. So recent episodes include stuff on Frankenstein,

20,000 leagues under the sea, have also done hamlets. So, you know, Othello. Yeah, Christmas show, you guys. Yeah, so, but plenty of books. And I do a podcast called Primates, and we were all on each other's pods. You should check them both out.

Primates is all about Primates, pop your culture very silly idea, but it's just a whole lot of fun. We talk about movies and TV shows and comics. I love it. Someone recently reviewed your podcast, Matt, and it said this is way funnier than this idea deserves to be.

Yeah, that is brilliant, brilliant summation. It's a lot of fun. If you haven't given it a go, I highly recommend it. I think people go, I don't care about promises. You don't need to enjoy it. It's just the weird hook that you do just to have to have funny guests on and talk about a thing. So definitely check it out. A lot of people from around the Planet Broadcasting Network have been on. I've got a goal to get everyone. Who's got a podcast in this network to be a guest on my show at some point?

Please check it out. Let us know what you think. And yeah, if you want to get in touch, do go on. You can get us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, do go on pod. Gmail is do go on pod at gmail.com. Our Patreon is patron.com slash do go on pod. There's a little theme running here. Most things are just do go on pod at gmail.com our patreon is patreon.com slash do go on pod There's a little theme running here most things are just do go on pod and our website do go on pod.com

Has links to most of those things and I probably should just said that but also in the show notes You can look at them there as well. Yeah, it's clicky clicky on your phone do it If you have a suggestion for a topic, please get on to our website click this suggests a topic button Yeah, just a reminder you don't have to be a patron support us to suggest a topic anyone please get onto our website, click the Suggester Topic button. Yeah, just a reminder, you don't have to do your Patreon support to suggest a topic. Anyone can do that at any time. That's right. It looks like a 24-hour hotline, baby. If you've got a great idea for a topic, please put that in and give us a great

spiel. I'm pretty sure, because I put all the spills in the pole, and I'm pretty sure there's no coincidence that the last that is reef the spear was probably also the most enticing. So if you do put in a good spear that definitely does help. Sell it baby and give us some good references. Yes please. Well that does bring us to the end of another episode.

Thank you so much for joining us this week. We hope you will join us again next week but until until then, I will say thank you and goodbye. Later. Bye. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planet broadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I, if you won't, it's up to you. This episode is brought to you by Progressive. Most of you aren't just listening right now.

You're driving, cleaning, and even exercising. But what if you could be saving money by switching to Progressive? Drivers who save by switching save nearly $750 on average, and auto customers qualify for an average of 7 discounts. Multitask right now, quote today at progressive.com. Progressive casualty and trans company and affiliates, National average 12 month savings of $744 by new customer surveyed, who saved with progressive between June 2022 and May 2023. Potential savings will vary, discounts not available in all safe and situations. Are you working way too hard for way too little? There's never been a better time to consider

a career in IT. You could enjoy a recession-resistant career in a rewarding field, with plenty of growth opportunities and often flexible work environments. Go to mycomputercareer.edu and take the free career evaluation. You could start your new career in months, not years. Take classes online or on campus. And financial aid is available to qualified students, including the GI Bill. Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu.