Do Go On - 176 - TISM (This Is Serious, Mum)

Episode Date: March 6, 2019

TISM or 'This Is Serious, Mum' are a legendary Australian band formed in Melbourne in the 1980s. Famous for their catchy songs, funny lyrics and subversion of music industry expectations, TISM were a one of a kind band. Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPod Instagram: @DoGoOnPod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/ Email us: [e-mail] See us live: dogoonpod.com/events Book tickets to Matt's stand up mattstewartcomedy.com/gigs  Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/music/the-phantom-menace-20040702-gdy5ls.htmlhttps://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/08/13/the-delicious-moment-les-murray-called-the-australian-music-indu_a_23076370/https://weirdestbandintheworld.com/2012/04/04/weird-band-of-the-week-tism/https://themusic.com.au/article/_fPuERATEhU/20-years-ago-tism-machiavelli-and-the-four-seasons-steve-bellhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TISMhttps://www.abc.net.au/doublej/programs/the-j-files/tism/10274784https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/a-tale-of-two-dags-tisms-damien-cowell-and-tony-martin-continue-the-satire-with-new-album-20170102-gtklqs.htmlhttps://www.theage.com.au/national/masked-and-understated-virtuoso-of-the-guitar-from-classical-to-indie-rock-legends-tism-20080507-ge71rd.htmlFilm Clips:Greg the Stop Sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwI2NrVYqIE(He’ll Never Be An) Old Man River:

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Don't lie to them, you're lying there. I know, I'm lounging in the recently air conditioned podcast studio. Oh boy, no more complaining about the heat. No, no, no. If anything, our nips are erect. I know, and I will be complaining about that. I will be writing to HR about that.

About the nips. The nips, it's out of control. Matt's are insanely long. Matt, you're like poking me in the eye. Yeah. And we're on the other side of the table, but one, we've got a nip hitch. Go. I know how you controlling them separately.

You're like a swordfish. Oh, wow. Swordfishers have long nipples. Yes. Huh. Little known fact. Didn't know that. Yeah, I've been watching a lot of David Attenborough,

and that's what I learnt. But there's some fishes. Nipples. I'm poking yeah. Does anyone want to ask how I am? Alright, right. Jesus Christ. But before we get into the report, I should say that we've got a couple of live shows coming up. How are you, Jess? Fuck off. Live show is coming up. It's going to be fun. No tension in the room. That's for sure. We've got some live shows coming up, including one this Sunday afternoon in Adelaide

for the first ever time. I'll be there, Jess will be there, Matt will be there, will you be there? Radalay. Come on down. It's your first and last opportunity to see us in Adelaide. That's right.

We are never coming back. This could be it. This could be it at the National. This is definitely it. All right, Michael. This could be it. This could be it at the National University. This is definitely it. All right, Michael Jackson, this is it. Meaning we could die before we put on any of the shows. Wow, which is what happened to him. Oh, I take that back.

Also, do not accept weird drug cocktails from your doctor. Oh, what? That is such a good call. Between now and Adelaide. After that, let's put it. Something night in Adelaide. My doctor will be dosing us up. The doctor is in. But it's in the afternoon at the National Wine Center.

Please do come along. Yeah, we'd love to have you there. Be good fun. Matt will also be in Adelaide before and after that. And during with his live show, Bone Dry. That's right. It's gonna be real fun coming to get to Adelaide. Now, am I there yet?

I'm there already, actually. I've been there since the first show was on Saturday. Oh, what? And it went great. That's not the issue. Good, great. We're recording this just for my leaving. But I feel positive.

I'm hoping I'll Saturday night. That's cool. Yeah. Big dogs open on the big dog night. Yeah. Hell yeah. Cheese a night, no thank you. Yeah.

That's what I did in person, Italy, but still. It's a new me. New city, new me. Yeah, I love that. And now we are in March. We can say that at the end of this month, we got the Melbourne International Comedy Festival kicking off. Well, we are doing four live podcasts every Saturday afternoon, from March 30th, the first

one at the European beer cafe, especially the first one selling very, very well. So we want to get into that one or get a season pass. I'd get on it soon. Other three also selling well, we'd love to see that. Yeah, come on down. That's the most wonderful time of year. I love it. It's the best. The city is alive and we come out of the woodworks. We scuttle out, we scuttle out of the woodworks. What have we been working on?

Boat. Oh, a boat. Yeah, I'm making a boat. Comedy boat. Comedy boat. We scuttle out of the woodwork of the comedy boat. Comedy boat. And then we perform for you.

We dance for you, maybe, presumably. I'll sing at some point, probably. No, I'm something at some point, probably. And then we scuttle back into the woodwork. And I would be saying, well, we won't be releasing all these. If you wanna hear them all, you gotta be in the room. Yeah, you gotta be there. That's true.

Or be square. Yeah. Or maybe be on Patreon. Yeah, that's right. There's three to be there. Let's do it. Or be square. Or maybe be on Patreon. Yeah, that's right. There are three options right there. And of course, we announced a couple of weeks ago that we're going to Thailand for the Kosovo International podcast festival in June with the Little Dumb Dumb Club.

Some podcasts live on the beach in Thailand. A tropical paradise. Well, a wild thing to look forward to. Crazy. I haven't got my head around any of that yet. Adelaide and Kosovo. You really can have it all. And we're also looking into obviously the American stuff still. We're looking into and other places like Perth and Brisbane.

We're going to be coming around to all of you all real soon, hopefully. Yeah. That is absolutely right. Real soon, hopefully. Right on. is absolutely right. Real soon hopefully. Right on. Well, with that, we're not committing to any of that huge commitment and 100% confirmation for all people, not in Adelaide or Cozamui. Let's get on with this week's episode.

Matt, you're doing a report. Yes. You're looking good. You're looking so calm and casual about this one. I feel bad. I well, I should say there'll be people Anyway, let's get the topic out of way and then I can give my pre-apologies This one was a free choice for you Jess and I are on the patreon votes at the moment. Yeah, so patreon chooses what we out of some Some options, but you free range of the hat you can pick anything. That's right

And that's sometimes is actually worse. I've spent hours looking at it before going, is this good enough? Is this what I want for my free choice? Yeah. Sure, it's an exciting... I can do anything! I can do anything! I can't think of anything that I want to do!

No! It's difficult. So hard. But I've definitely made a good choice. I just don't know if I've done it justice or not, but let's find out together. I reckon you have. I'm going to, I'll ask you the question. And then we can get stuck into the old rapport. You, you see. Question is, following reports on the Beatles and Pantera, which band would complete a do-go on trilogy of my favorite ever bands. Oh, now hang on Dave.

Okay, so we have the Beatles. We've had Pantera and do we have a report on Tism? It is a report on Tism. Yes! I want to point out to whoever is keeping track of who gets it right, I did just get it right. Did. So, because Tism possibly stands for this is Serious Mom.

Yes. Which I'm at and will get to, but point for this is serious, mom. Yes. Which I'm adding more get to, but point for you Jess, well done. This is exciting. This is a, my parents will definitely listen to this. And is this in, in order is it the Beatles, then Pantera, then Tism? Or do you know your top three? No, I think it would, it would fluctuate around those. I think Tism would definitely be, I think it's probably, I don't know, it's hard to say,

but Tism would definitely weigh right up there. Top three for sure. It's been suggested quite a few times, including by McFarty. You see, in brackets, it's Dutch, I know, ha ha. That's my dream name. Oh, you could marry them and become just McFarty. Oh my God, I wanna be just McFarty. That is comedy.

Also, Nicola has suggested it. Steve, what a one name is he is. Why Steve? And Jacob Lane. Awesome. So thank you for everyone for those suggestions. You should have saved McFarley for last though, because all the other sound, Jacob Lane.

Oh no, I'm sure that's a flashback to his childhood. like Farty for last, like, is all the other sound, Jacob Lane, man. Oh, no. I'm sure that's a flashback to his shoulders. 100%. This is what Steve said. He said, this is serious, Matt. Dave delivered the Simpsons, Bob Gavis River Dance, Shudders, completely the ditch.

That was unnecessary. No, Shudders because he loved it. It gave him chills. Yeah, chills, down the line. Well, it feels like Michael Flatley is dancing on my spine right now. So I imagine that there's probably a few to some fans who are tuning in for the first time.

And I should say to you, you're not gonna learn anything new, I don't think. So I apologize for that. I love this band. I wanna do them justice. I probably haven't. Something I would say to listeners is, go out and listen to some of their albums,

not available on Spotify, but you can find them on YouTube or iTunes. Anyhow, here is my report. Tism, which is short for this is a serious mum, formed sometime in the early 1980s, probably 1982. They evolved out of the band, I Can Run. Their first concert occurred on the 6th of December, 1983, at the Duncan McKinnon Athletics Reserve in the Melbourne suburb of Marum Bina.

When I read this the first time, when I got way into him, like, maybe the late 90s, early 2000s, and I did a lot of reading on the primitive internet back then. And when I read that, I got chills. I shuddered with delight because that is where I did a lot of reading on the primitive internet back then. And when I read that, I got chills. I shuddered with delight because that is where I did my school sports. Yeah, Duncan McKinnon. At Duncan McKinnon Reserve. It's not too far from where you guys grew up. Yeah, and my mum, the school mum works at uses it all the time.

So it's why I never did sports. I don't get McKinnon well. So I think it's funny I came fourth in the 1500 meters at the same place. Kids and first performed. That is. How many kids are running in the race? I think that you know, there was at least four, probably eight to 10.

Hello. Maybe 12. Okay. Maybe six. There's not that many. Do you get a ribbon for fourth? Yeah, you might have. I think fourth was the old one.

The white ribbon, yeah. Oh, the color of surrender. Yeah, you might have. I think fourth was the old one. The light movement, yeah. Oh, the color of surrender. Yeah, give up. Just give up. It almost feels like a Tism sort of lyric. I came fourth on the 1500 meters at the same place to some first performed, or I can make that work. Yeah, somehow they'd work that in there. The band saw the concert as an abject failure

and split up immediately before reforming a couple of months later. So Tism Law states that every subsequent gig over the following 20 odd years was a reunion show. So they broke up after every show. Every show, yeah. Band members, this may be the most famous thing about them, to casual observers. Band members hid their identities with face masks and pseudonyms.

And so do they do that at this first concert in Arun Bina? They wore newspaper costumes. Wow. They're the original four members of the band, included vocalist Humphrey B. Floubert, which is a play on the name of the children's TV character Humphrey B. Bear, who's an Australian TV character, and 19th century Bear, was an Australian TV character, and 19th century French novelist Gustave Floubert. Floubert.

That's right. And this is kind of something they do a lot of mixing high culture and low culture ideas, sort of one of the trademarks. Keyboard is Eugene Delacroix Bon, or Hot Crocs Bon, maybe, which is a play on the French romantic artist Eugene Delacroix Bun or Hot Crocs Bun maybe, which is a play on the French Romantic artist Eugene Delacroix and the Easter baked treat. And the other two original members were bass player, Joc cheese.

It probably doesn't need too much extra mixing, high end low culture there. And Vocalist genre be good, is the genre be good. Who's the Johnny be good? I think genre be good left to band before they release an album or anything. Apparently left because he had a complete non-sellout stance, possibly down to even not selling albums. He's just like very, very staunch in his beliefs of not selling out. So that made obviously being in a band pretty high.

I don't want to sell out so badly that I cannot be in a band. I'm so sorry. And another band member has since been quoted as saying, So that made obviously being in a band pretty high. I don't want to say that so badly that I cannot be in a band. Yeah. I'm so sorry. And another band member has since been quoted as saying, this stance was simultaneously stupid and inspiring to the rest of the band. And potentially to mock him for this stance,

the band ended up naming their record label after him, Sean Ruby Good. So on most of their CDs, on the back, it says, Sean Ruby Good. Joining the band soon after, in the first couple of years, was guitarist, league fan of La Holland, John St Penis, and Les Misribles, and obviously a play on Les Mis, and vocalist Ron Hitler Barassi. Ron Barassi being an all-time great Aussie rules footballer and you might know Hitler's work.

Personally, no. Personally, it took his name from his German heritage as mixing with his love of Aussie rules football. So, kind of the core, the two faces of the band, Humphrey B for Bear and Ron Hitler Barassi mainly. Most interviews and everything, it's normally them working as a duo. And so I tracked down interviews with them, they're so funny, so quick and yeah, a whole lot of fun, but obviously there's, it's a very collaborative band, everyone wrote songs and whatnot. So yeah, like I was saying, the anonymity thing is probably the first thing that comes to mind for casual fans. When talking about the hidden identities in recent times,

though, Flabers said, let's face it, it's totally unoriginal. The residents did it long before we did, and before the residents, I'm sure there was someone else. It allows people to compare us to kiss and to slipknot, and we obviously have more in common with Kenny G than any of those bands. Yeah, they're funny bands. Obviously, they've got a lot of self-belief. They know they're very good and funny and whatnot, but they will also self-deprecate pretty mercilessly. They have never officially revealed their identities. And this led to regular speculation about who they actually are Especially at the peak of their fame in the 80s and 90s Rumors went around that they were politicians or members of other bands

There was strong rumors that they were members of the band painters and docus and also the Wiggles So that was more of a joke rumor But due to the fact that they mainly toured during school holidays, a persistent rumor was that they were schoolteachers. And I think that did end up being true. I think at least I'm pretty sure. Couple of them were yeah. Uh, due to them often referencing football players, there was also a rumor that they were AFL footballers. That would be great. And responding to that theory, Humphrey B. Flabertre stated that we're actually not AFL, we're more violent

and crappy. So you're looking at VFL there. Perhaps unsurprisingly, they were often asked why they chose to remain anonymous. One time when Flabére was asked the answer, the answer that makes me sound good is that we desire to circumvent the cult of personality that is inherent in rock music by choosing to remain anonymous. Unlike every other band in rock, we choose to be anonymous. The answer that makes me sound good would probably also incorporate some lengthy discussion about brechtian alienation techniques, about our postmodernist grasp of ever-cooling universe universe and a dehumanizing society encapsulated in the somewhat paramilitary aspect of our clothing. All of those

things would make me sound good, but actually we're just boring guys. I think the stories are always bigger than the reality and I guess that would have been amusing when you're going, there's a teacher, he works. Yeah, he's a PE teacher. I do English and then Trevor works at the local petrol station Jock cheese. Jock cheese is a bass player, right? That's right. Yeah, he also went to school with my dad, right? I'm a very close family friend Can't believe that you know Jock cheese. Jock cheese. I think well, there's confusion because there's a jock

I think your dad if I remember, your dad went to school with Tony Coetus. No. No, okay, great. He went to school with James Paul. James Paul. That's right, who is Tony Coetus? Oh. Or token black man, who was changed.

Because I just asked mum, I just messaged her and I was like, what was, because his name, his name was James Paul, but he's friends called him Josh. That's right, but then that's why people get confused because there's jock cheese. His real name isn't jock. But then I just asked, sorry, this isn't helpful. But I asked mum what his name was in the band, because I didn't think it was jock cheese.

And she said, good question. She's not 100% sure, but she said he was the base player. Does that help? Right. Oh, he she said, good question. She's not 100% sure, but she said, he was the bass player, does that help? Right, I'm interested. Yes, it does. Okay. See, it is. So she's texting now, so we'll see.

It's very exciting. I believe he was the guitarist, but I think they played, I think they might have switched between the bass and guitar, Jacques Chies, and token blackman, aka Tony Coetus, aka James Paul. Right. I've trust you more than mom's connection of the Iliac. and Token Blackman aka Tony Quider's aka James Paul. I trust you more than Mum's production of The Iliac.

I'm also going off, you know, I never, the identities and stuff, there's never something I always sort of felt like that was part of the fun. I didn't wanna go in and do hunting. I didn't really matter to me exactly who they were. I just like the music mainly and thought they were really fun and funny.

Yeah. As well as their songs just being fucking bangers. Oh, they're great. But all my memories of Jock was that he always had a guitar. Right. He was at our house. Probably classically trained. Incredibly he went overseas.

Where was he? Berlin? No. Somewhere like that. And he wrote all sorts of classical, incredible music. He also did a song with Shane Jacobs and did the vocals for. Really? Not Shane Jacobs. Yeah, no.

Kenny. No. Shane. Shane. Shane Warren, Shane Crawford. Shane Gould. Shane Gould. Thank God you're here.

Who has seen Shane? Shane Bourne. Born. Shane Bourne. Shane Gould. Thank God you're here. Shane Born. Shane Born. Oh. Yes. That's a weird combo. Yeah. It's... It's not Shane I was expecting. No. Shane Jacobson was incorrect also. I'm not helping this at all. I was really expecting Shane Wong to come up there. I'll stop contributing. Please don't with the ritual. No, you're the you've got the most direct. So he hung out at your house. Yeah, I knew him very well growing up.

That's pretty amazing. Yeah, there was one of Dad's best friends and mums. Sorry, Mum. One of my parents' best friends. So cool. So as yet, he hasn't joined the band. He joined in the early 90s, but it gets that in a sec. By the mid 80s, the band were playing regularly around Melbourne, and in 1986 they released

their debut single, which was called Deficate on my face. This was a song sung from the perspective of Adolf Hitler to his mistress Eva Braun, which references the rumours that Hitler was in the in the Scat. Doobie-bap-bap-bap! Fascic Hitler. That's Scam, man. Oh, sorry. Get it right!

Scat. The song had lyrics, you know, mixing in Nazi war history with shit. With... I mean, that sounds like something you'd love, because you'd love pujos. Well, some reason I enjoy this one, but, uh, the song opens by saying, come home tired, what a day I've had. New zane good from Stalin grad. I've been busy protecting the German race.

So come on, baby. Deficate on my face. LAUGHTER Get to the bunker. Looks like a star. Turn on the TV. It's all one big lie, here Eva, have these prunes to chew, we have ways of making you poo. No, I know this song, I know the chorus, but I had no idea that that's what the verses

were. Yeah, so silly, it's so great. So catchy, do fuck it on my face, so silly, but so great. So catchy. Defu-cute on my face. Defu-cute on my face. I didn't realize it was hip-hop. And it sort of plays it out as if the war hit the sort of gave in because this is what it says, it's funny, goes, what's that, Eva?

Your bowels on strike, and it's all over for my third Reich, which is different. That's a different history lesson what I was taught in school, but it was released as a seven inch on vinyl, obviously, with all four sides of the cover glued shut. Maybe you couldn't open it to get the album out without destroying the artwork. And they would often do this sort of kind of pumpkin or pranking their own audience a bit like that. I'd be calling up the distributor and being like, hey, can you print this and can you glue the fourth side shot? Yeah, we need some seal-em-shut.

So what? Yes, I know you won't be able to get it out. That's the point. What's it called? Deficate on my face. No, no, no, no. It's told from the perspective of Adolf Hitler. Hi. Nothing weird. Oh, come on. Hello.

Due to the lyrical content of the song, it received little to no radio play. They couldn't get it out of the content. Nothing else in the content. I malleted it in and people like, well, obviously there's nothing in here. Yeah. and malleted in and people like, well, obviously there's nothing in here. Yeah. Apparently it was a big hit in the club, though. It was a big, big dance hit. And then in 1987, they released another single called 40 Years Then Death. It was sort of about life.

It's pretty sad tale. It was confusingly releasing a clear plastic sleeve on a plane disc, so no labeling at all, you couldn't, didn't possible to tell what it was. It's just, it's sort of shits. I'm pretty happy to fuck around, even if it made success harder for themselves. And despite this, the song was well-received

and got radio support. Dead day boo album was released the following year, charting in the top 50 in Australia, which is pretty amazing in itself. Considering it can't get much radio play. Yeah, that's right. They were some radio hits on it, but the album was called Great Truckin' Songs

of the Renaissance. Like sort of, they can't have the idea to expect to chart high. It's still seen as a classic today and it's seen as one of their high points, although I reckon I love every one of their albums, but anyway, it is still a fan favorite. And there, a single came off of called Saturday Night Palsy, which also charted and led to the band appearing on popular television show, Hey, Hey, it's Saturday. Darryl, Darryl, hey, hey, it's Saturday. Darryl. Darryl, someone just introduced Tism. It'd be so confused.

Oh, it's as if you've seen it. He is so confused. He's very obviously reading off an auto queue and then he sort of does a double take. Well, you didn't have a rehearsal, Darryl, like, come on. And they were in the costumes. When they toured, they would usually come up with different elaborate costumes.

Over their career, they'd put like one, two, or they wore big, big sort of fat suits that made them look like fat cat bankers. Other suits where their bell clavers made it look like brains were coming out of their heads, or they were sort of like big flower people, or had framed artwork of their own bell clavoured faces above them in a big frame,

like a work of art or big... I mean so hard to pull. Yeah, like it's like everything about what they did was trying to spend any money they might make on all this elaborate stuff. So they had all these different costumes, and even at this early stage, they had already had a bunch of tours with different costumes.

So with this performance, they roped in a bunch of tours with different costumes. So with this performance, they roped in a bunch of mates and pulled out some of those old costumes that they'd used. And flooded the channel nine studios with 28 supposed members, or performing and dancing in unison. One version of the band had come out, then another, then another, until the whole place was just packed out. When I first watched it, I assumed it was like using green screens, some of it was kind of confusing to see so many people dancing like that, but a lot of fun obviously. Apparently, they'll never invite it back for that reason or whatever. But in 1989, they were set to release their first and what would be their only book called The Tism Guide

to Little Aesthetics, which compiled lyrics, interviews, and press releases. But after it was checked by lawyers, it took a further year for it to be released. Is that to sense a much of the book by hand using white out and black textors and then sticking sense of due to legal advice on each copy? So there was, apparently, it was just a lot of stuff

that would have got them in trouble. Right, so they printed it and then got the load at hand, the load was like, you've got to take this out and they're like, well, we've got thousands of copies. Yeah. So that's re-printed. Pretty inefficient way of doing it, but yeah, because you missed one slanderous sentence.

Yeah. Why is not one not? Apparently there are a few uncensored versions out there. And they are worth a lot of money if you go on a eBay or something like that. That's awesome. Their second LP was released by a phonogram records in 1990. And despite it being a sick album, I really love this album. It's got Hot Dogma, sold poorly, and they were dropped by the label soon after.

In 1991, guitarist, League fan of La Llan, now known to be Sean Kelly, left the band and was replaced by your family friend, Tony Coetus, aka James Paul. And apparently the original Les Miserables and Johnson Penis were also replaced, only with two guys using the same names, Les Miserables and Johnson penis were also replaced only with two guys using the same names, so there's miserables in Johnson penis. So why did you reckon that sometimes they brought it in completely new member, like a new name, new persona, and sometimes they just kept it?

Yeah, wonder whether it's, whether it's up to the personality of the person, some they're trying to just slip in at the time as if it hasn't happened, so they don't change the names. Yeah, I'm not exactly sure why that would be. I imagine that because James Paul was like a, maybe had a different guitar style, would have been a bit clearer, whereas the other guys were more, they were dancing members, sort of dancing and backup vocals.

I think Johnson Penis initially was a saxophonist in the band, the original one, but that sort of rock with sax was a bit out of style by the 90s so wasn't as required anymore. But I reckon every rock band in the 80s had a six-off in the summer season. I blame Bruce Springsteen and all the other bands. Huey Lewis and the News, all those and the bands. I like to have the six-offenist. And the. All the anders.

Jess and the neutral boys. That's us. When did we talk about that? Was that on a podcast? That was with Naomi. Great. Last week. Yeah.

So that would make sense to some people. Tism were an infamously difficult interview for journalists. They would rarely talk about themselves or answer questions and silly, even getting them to sit and talk was hard. In the early days, they insisted on being interviewed by facts only. Facts a question or facts a reply. At different times, there's just a few examples of them being difficult,

slash funny, depending on your perspective. If you're a journalist, Jess, maybe you'd find these annoying, but it seems like a bit of fun. Depends on how, I mean, you're probably on a deadline, to be honest, so you probably are, I like to sense the questions, please. But you're also, I feel like a lot of them are like, well, this is the story. I'll just talk about how this was very silly.

100% it's fascinating. So one time they, they made journalists sit on the opposite side of a football field and with mega phones. So good. That is so funny. Another time with String and Cans across a big space as well. One time they made a Rolling Stone magazine writer meet them in a restaurant, but they said they'd only talked to him if he wore full scuba gear. And he did. Yes. Another time they blindfolded a journalist before taking him to a meat locker when the blindfold came off. There were three Tism, supposedly Tism members there to interview,

but they weren't real Tism members. So they were just butchers? They were just butchers in dollar clavers. Hey. What do you want to know? But I don't know where this cut of meat. The butchers have no idea what they're doing, right? They were also kidnapped.

And here's a journalist journalist you'd be like, stop fucking around. I know you're not a butcher. Tell me about your music. I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, butcher. What music? What music?

What music? What music? There's a great article on there that's linked to the J files, which are a general J series that biographies, biographies, biographs of Nises, bands, and they did a really good one about Tism. And off that website it says, whatever format took, Tism steadfast refusal to ever play anything straight or give a direct answer became legendary. And even Trouble J felt the brunt on occasion.

Here's one early facts exchange with Trouble J. So Trouble J sent the question, what did Tism like most about Sydney? They said, we love the miles and miles of endless desert. And how it's the biggest rock in the world. This is such shit. What can people expect at the Sydney show? Well, just the usual. At the Sydney show, there will be fun things for all the family. The kiddies can learn about horticulture. There will be rides and games for the older kiddies. And Mum and Dad will enjoy watching the animal parades and the annual wood shop.

And of course, there'll be showbags. At 9991 the band signed to iconic independent label shock records who re-released great truck and songs as well as an EP called Jettelman Start Your Egos which collated a bunch of the bands early tracks that were not yet available on CD. There's a track on that, I'm a peak called TS Eliot, he wanker. Does that mean anything to you, David? You're a bookboy. Yeah, bookboy. Hey. TS Eliot, wanker, bookboy. What's he wanker mean? That's something I was hoping, yeah, there's like many Tism lyrics a little over my idiot head. Yeah, because remember Dave, they combine high culture

with Matt's low culture. Yeah, I get half the joke. I get the- He gets the Humphrey Bay bit. You get the flow bear, you know? You know? We meet in the middle. Man I'm over it, yeah.

They had a song later on called What I Am. And the whole song is kind of like, go on, you're one or the other. What I, you're a wanker or you're a yobber? Is it yobber or what? Yeah, I love that. That's for my parents. I'm a genius James Hurt or James Joyce.

James Joyce. I'm like, all right, Googling James Joyce. LAUGHTER Matt, I think we know what you are in the equation. I think we know what Dave is. I would have been studying literature at the time, probably. I think I was in I got right in. Who is James Joyce?

Out of vague idea. So yeah, that was it. That was, I've got all these albums on CD. So I reckon, you know, when I'm ready to retire. I sell, because I most of them are out of print now. Or are gonna go get like 30, 40 bucks for some of these. Oh my God, when you're ready to retire. Yeah.

I really hope the economy has gone to shit by now. Can I come and visit you on your yacht? Yes. Oh, by a yacht, what with? Oh, here is my copy of Gentlemen's Start Your Egos. Oh, my God. I've full. An issue to the Tism comic book.

I owe you some change. Take two yachts. Please. So they weren't yet available on CD. So shock, I think often it seems like this is something to really think about, but you'd sign a new deal and they'd buy a lot of your back catalog re-release. That'd be all part of the fun as well. And that seemed to happen a lot. Like they'd sign for one record that label would release a bunch of their old stuff, one or two albums and then they'd move on again. Right.

They also, shock also released a new CD titled Beasts of Suburban, which featured a track called Father and Son from my favourites because it relates to me a little bit. A detail of the sort of a father and son who would go along to watch the Saints play at Marabin and see the legendary wingman, Nikki, Winnmark, one tiny plugger locket. So the chorus was Winnmark, Winnmark, Winnmark, a locket. Oh my god. Is that your childhood? Is there any bigger cross section of your love than that right there? Yeah, I know. I think this is why they're such a favorite band. Yeah. I think, I'm joking. I get some of the references. The saint.

I certainly get the 40s stuff. The Matt's favorite things. The saint's Tuzum and his dad. Oh, what? The big three. And your family. Yes. It's all linked in.

Yeah. In 1993, Tuzum released another EP. This time titled, Australia the Lucky Cunt. I probably will bleep out the last bit of that. So let's just say it's called Australia the Lucky Country without the re. Yeah.

This album was embroiled in Tissin' Fans or feel ripped off for that. But apparently in America saying, is quite offensive. Dave told me that early on. You'll notice that there's bleeps in the first, maybe 15, 20 episodes, and then I start bottom my tongue. Yeah. But there'll notice there's bleeps in the first maybe 15, 20 episodes, and then I start bottom my tongue.

Yeah. But there'll be a few bleeps in this episode because they say, **** a bit. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Oh, good luck with that, yeah. **** everyone have a go. No, I'll save mine.

Great. So that you don't know where it is. So you have to listen to the whole episode while you're editing to bleep it. Great. Well, nothing I love more than listening back to me talking. What a c*****. This album was embroiled in controversy and not because of the name, but rather the cover art, which was a Kuala Sucke on a syringe, which was drawn in the simple childlike style of Australian

artist, Kandone. Do you know Kandone? Yes. They could quite big in the 80s. Yeah. Sort of very colorful. Yeah. Very Australianer. He did the opening ceremony, Sydney Olympics opening ceremony, logo or there was an artwork, something related to him. You're welcome for that fact. That's a good fact. Oh, shut up, Jess. You dumb c*****. Yeah, well I did to him you're welcome for that fact

Please don't shut up the Ken Don society that's the bit you argued with Unbelievable The Ken Don society still nothing neither of you Why would you sit please do go on me calling myself a dumb? You're not that's what I say signed up for, because you're not. You're beautiful opinions and a great aura. And, you know, I think you have things to say. Hey, hey, you're a strong woman. You've got autonomy, you've got agency. Lean in.

Give us your opinion. Listen to You've got agency. Yeah. Lean in. I love the people. Give us your opinion. This finger wig. Listen to me when I talk to you. I'll be the feminist here. I'm giving you advice here. That finger wig all you're adding is,

it really empowering me. No, that really, that finger wig was saying, no, your place. Stop. Sh, sh, sh, sh. And lean in and have you say, Shh. Have you say? The Ken Dones Society Threaten Legal Action,

and the matter was settled out of court for an underscored sum, which Flobar later described as fairly close to the amount that radiohead spends on buying friends. The EP was really released as censored due to legal advice, with artwork depicting Shenato Conor tearing up a piece of paper with the Tism logo on it,

which was doctored from the original, which showed her tearing up a photo of Pope John Paul II for some reason, apparently on Saturday night. I'm setting an alarm on. I was a big deal for her. She got a lot of shit for that. Yeah, right.

That was a different time. Yeah. Because you ripped up a picture of her. You know what she was protesting? Sexual abuse in the Catholic church your Joe Yeah, now everyone's like, huh, she was right. That was a very different. Yeah, but at the time people were like calling for it to be killed and things People are so dumb and she was something like in early 20s very very young So yeah, don't take a stand are you in?

are I can just pipe down until you're old and then who cares? By then someone else would have taken that stand and you can all move on. I'm going to be inspiring. That is beautiful. I'm going to spend another 25 years doing nothing. And then, oh boy, you better believe I'm a being activist. Yeah, hey, I knew that was wrong all along. But I just didn't want to say anything because I was young. Yeah. You know, that's the issue, right?

People will never choose young during something. Yeah. I'm assuming that's the problem. Honestly, that probably did come into it. Yeah. I think, yeah. I'd reckon that probably was. People, I find, yeah. I'd reckon that probably was. People, I find that frustrating.

It's like, at the very, you talk about America and Australia very similar countries and we talk about freedom all the time. Lucky countries, Australia, land of the free America, but then so angry about certain things happening. It's like, I think you should be allowed to say that. But anyway, what the fuck do I know? Yeah. Probably edit that out, because I did not want to stick my head that. But anyway, what the fuck do I know?

Probably edit that out, cause I did not want to stick my head up. Get a chop-daw. Sit down. Yeah, Matt, you are too young, I never thought I'd say this, but you are too young to be an activist. And I should also say,

that's only if it's an opinion I agree with. If you're saying something, I don't agree with, then you should shut up. Yeah, agreed. Which is kind of what everyone does. It's so funny, people like, free speech. But I disagree with that, you should die. Yeah.

Wait, what? I'm confused. In 1995, Tism released their third LP titled Machiavelli in the Four Seasons. And this went on to be... That's very funny. They're most commercially successful album. Oh, great, Dave. Explain why that very funny. ...the most commercially successful album.

Oh, great, Dave. Explain why that's funny. Yeah, for the people listening. They've taken the philosopher, Maggie Valley, and combined it with Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons. They're turned it in with like a boy band. This is like your domain, because it's high culture and puns. Yeah. It's very funny. Yeah, to you. Dave's like, well, just reading

the back of the album, he's like, this is the best together. I get that. And that. Yeah, I think that's a bit bit of the joy of Tism is gone. Yeah, I get that. that. So this album went on to be their most commercially successful album. And continuing with their habit of fucking with their audience for our album art, the cover makes no mention of Tism. So it's as if the band is Machiavelli in the Four Seasons. And the back of the album also does not give a proper track listing. It doesn't give the actual songs. Instead, the album lists the songs as, I love you baby. It's track one, track two. You and me baby love. Track three, baby. I love you. For love, baby you. It's you I love, baby. In love with you baby, baby, baby, baby, love, love, love, baby, love, and I-L-Y-B. So, do you put it hard to keep track of which songs you really like on that album, even

as a big fan? I think one of the things I normally do is there, not one of those bands that hides, the track title is usually pretty clear from the chorus, so you'd normally figure it out, but yeah, track order, you'd be testing me. It was funny, the first time I remember that being pointed out to me was in a lecture at my degree, the lecturer had slides of the album covers and he read out that track listing.

But they do it in like a like the star of the professor. And finally, I L Y B You see what they've done there Oh my god, I know what Dave's gonna be doing in 20 years time. I'd love to be professor But you're gonna need to get another small man and sit on his shoulders and wear a big trench coat You need to you get a need to grow a beard, just to age you a little bit. Just can't.

I know Dave, but you have to try. I think technology is gonna come along with the next 20 years. Yeah, someone gave us a packet of fake beards on the UK tour. I can give you one of those. Please. Great.

Don't know why I didn't think of that. I put one on straight away. Didn't give one a day. I don't know if I was really drunk or something of it, but I don't remember that happening at all. Yeah, we were a bit drunk. Yeah, that one was. Not me. No, not you. You're a good boy.

Yeah. The album went on to achieve gold status, and it won the RIA for best independent release. The RIA is like the Australian recording industry awards to like the Australian Grammys. Yeah. Or the Australian, what are the, what are the called in England again? Brit Awards.

Is that right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Sure. I love it Dave doesn't really know. He'll be like, yeah. Why not? Whatever.

To be honest, they're a bit like the Australian like an or something like that. Yeah. There's somewhere between. Not quite Grammys. The very pointy trophies. Great. We hardly pointy. So I went on to in best independent release. Instead of accepting the award themselves, they sent up Hungarian-born football commentator Les Murray, who was immortalized with their song, What Nationality Is Les Murray? That's fine. Oh my God. He went up and he said in English, this is serious, okay.

In the immortal words of the great Hungarian center forward, Nador hit a good kitty and then he started speaking in Hungarian. So the crowd was sort of like laughing, it was fun and then he started speaking in Hungarian, which sort of confused the crowd and they like sort of softly applauded without knowing what they're applauding. So the Australian music industry is all there in the audience. What he's been said, he's been translated in a couple of different ways.

One way was when the revolution comes, the music industry will be first to go. Which I think that sounds like that's probably more likely the accurate one, but I've seen some versions of it subtile of this, thusly saying, the music industry is a septic boil on the buttocks of humanity. I hope you all die a horrible death, but I think it's probably more likely to be the first one. Probably, but that's still great. It's great fun. This album also included two of the band's biggest singles, including Greg the Stop Sign, which was a parody of a road safety ad that was played a lot at the time and the film clip was shot in part at Mariban football ground the Saints home ground

and included my all-time favorite football and Justin Peckett on an exercise bike. All-time favorite. All-time favorite. Couldn't believe it. Huge call. Big call sure. One of the wakelands was there as well and then a lot of like Joshua Kitchen who's a player that I don't think many would remember. Now of course I remember Josh Kitchen. I don't know if you ever played a game. Now I love kitchen. I'd say, oh wait, tell you what,

you should be in the laundry. Oh that's good. That's a switcher. That's good switcher. Did you ever hear Josh Oils podcast when he had Daniel Tobias on the Sittering Committee? Yes, he talked about this song. He could talk about that song because he was in the TAC ad that is parodied.

So yeah, if you're into Josh Ells' podcast or if you're not, you should listen the episode with the top right. Yeah, look out, don't you know how I am in the Daniel Tobias episode, which is their old great episodes, but yeah, that's a really funny story. And the album also featured their most iconic song, which is Never Gonna Be an Old Man River, which is more commonly known as, I'm on the drug that killed River Phoenix. Yeah, I'm on the drug, I'm on the drug,

I'm on the drug that killed River Phoenix. And how long before, how recently had River Phoenix overdosed and died? I think it was a couple of years, it's 95, I think it was a couple years. It's not like that. It's not like that. I think he might have died in that. BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, I wasn't allowed to listen to Tism.

Right. Even though with one member coming over for dinner. All the time. Yeah. My brother did. He listened to them a lot, but he's quite a bit older than me. I was very little. Right.

And I haven't listened to heaps now as an adult to be fair, but I definitely know that one. The song I really did break through because I remember being in Primuska when it came out and like us singing it together and getting in trouble from teachers. Because you're singing I'm on the drug that killed Riverfix. With absolutely zero understanding what up were the words meant. Both of these songs were huge hits for them and both finished in the top 10 of that year's Triple J Hottest 100, so they were. Damn, because when you said before

that they didn't get a lot of radio play because of the language, I was like, we play them. Like we play all sorts of swear words. Right, so Triple J, I'm probably more talking about more mainstream. No, totally, but I was just, no, no triple James, I'm probably more talking about more mainstream. No, totally, but I was just, no, no, no, I was just wondering if we did. Yeah. So they made it into the hottest 100s. It's really cool. Yeah, quite a lot. Obviously. So they, there was actually a recently you would have seen or you would have seen at your work that they

did a re-vote for, or maybe double J did, did a revote for the 98, Hottest 100? Yeah. And a Tism song, what I was talking about before, got bumped up from the 40s to number four. Oh wow. Yeah, so it's really an increase in popularity. Sorry, the Hottest 100 is a yearly countdown that Triple J do of the Hottest 100 songs of that year, the previous year. Yes, we've done a full report on it. We did, songs of that year, the previous year. We've done a full report on it. We did, early on. We did too.

So I was gonna be some listeners in Perth and I was, they were saying how they liked the killer episodes. And like, shows really changed. I'm like, I read the early days. We weren't picking killers. That was only when we were starting to take suggestions. Yeah.

I'm like, well, they were pretty innocent early on and their point of reference was, yeah, they were pretty innocent early on and their point of reference was, yeah, like the hottest 100. Yeah. Well, the Sydney Olympics opening ceremony. That was cute. It was a different time. We were such naive kids back then. Yeah, the Mona Lisa. Yeah, you're adorable. Why is it famous? Okay, but then episode 10. That's true. That's death burial cremation. What can you do with your body when you die? That was a pretty morbid and still my favorite. Great episode.

If I pack your ass with cotton, it's gross. I think that's what made the episode. The packing of your ass. We couldn't get past it. Funnily enough. As well as being their most well-known song, and I reckon just the name is, they must have taken the dive when they came up with never gonna be an old man river.

Because it's in brackets too, yeah. It's a old man river is like a classic standard. But old man river. So I just, I imagine they would have just had a nap for a week or two. Yeah, it's great. It's great. All right, to the pub.

Yeah. So, but as well as being the most well-known song, it was also possibly their most controversial with the chorus repeating the line, I'm on the drug be killed with a phoenix. Many found it to be in poor taste. Possibly most famously, flee from the red hot chili peppers, the bass player from the chili peppers. He was a friend of phoenixes. Well, he is there when he died.

Right, so very short. Very short. Because yeah, so it was outside the Viper room, which Johnny Depp co-owned at the time. And I'm pretty sure that Johnny Depp was on stage with Flea, because Johnny Depp plays guitar and their friends, whatever. Sure.

And they were on stage. What is good life? No, they were on stage when they heard that River Phoenix was out the front overdosing and I think they ran out. I'm sorry, did somebody interrupt their performance? That's rude. Hello, I'm just trying to do a bass solo here.

A boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. My bass solo is a double bass, obviously. Yeah. Well, the vibe room in my head changed from a dirty, like, spewfield the vibe, the vibe, the vibe, angry about it. Um, and he, he said he, uh, some people say he either threatened to fight, Tism or even kill them over it. So it was pretty upset about it. Apparently, um, before talking to Richard Kingsman, who's like a long term, um, music manager at Triple J, still around. Yeah. And the king, he don't, he hosts the Sunday

night new music show. He's the, uh, group director of music. Right. And the King. He hosts the Sunday Night New Music Show. He's the group director of music. Right. And he's the big boss. He talked about interviewing Flea just before California Cation came out, their biggest album. Yeah. And he said just before they started talking, Flea brought up, Flea brought up, just did

a real tenetownest thing. I'm trying not to interrupt you, but in doing so interrupt, I'm so sorry. As apparently Flea before the interview started off, Marquis started talking about how annoyed he was, how furious he was with Tism and this song. And Kingsville was just like, just had to be like, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, and just quietly thinking, we played it a lot. just had to be like, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, and just quietly thinking, we played it a lot. We got that song a lot of support. I'm making that call. I won't tell you that, but she. I made that out single of the week. Totally. There would have been on super high rotation, I imagine. Later speaking to the agent, Big newspaper Melvin, Ron Hitler-Barrassi said about

the song, he said, that the line, I'm on the, Ron Hitler, Barassi said about the song. He said that the line, I'm on the drug that killed River Phoenix, wasn't about River Phoenix at all. That song was about fame. It was sort of making fun of how everything's overblown with fame, right? And then when the journalist asked him if he'd ever had a chance to explain this to Flea, Barassi replied,

I had him on the ground and I was just about to break his nose with a forehead. And I said, you do know Flea, that satire, you do know Flea, that satire is a legitimate art form stretching back to ancient Greek drama and he said, oh, that's okay then Ron. He's a good guy Flea, he's a mate of ours. The fuck are they the best? There's such little shit that it's awesome. It would be so fun to just, do you like, there's no pressure on you to say, you could just say anything and it's all just sort of having a good time. But they are just do seem like

if you listen to interviews, they do sound so quick. They're very intelligent. Yeah. But I mean, some of that is probably their talk, they're, I think they all met at Melbourne Uni. I've said that mentioned a couple times. So like highly educated, but suburban kids, they grew up in Springvale and sort of, real working class areas. So I think that's a big part of who they are

as a band, they're the mix of the suburbs and the sort of, you know, the tertiary education, educated elite type. And that, yeah, it's a real funny dichotomy. I got to interview Humphrey B for a bit. Just was in the room at the time for community TV. And I asked him, I'm like, go on, was he in a costume? No, no, this is after. So I will talk about this. He's, he's, his name's Damien Kow and he's, Oh, I do know Damien Kow, yeah.

But he's, I've been open about his identity since whereas none of the others really have. What if, do the others mind that he's? I think he must have had that discussion. He wrestled with it a lot, I believe, but I'm sure he would have talked it through. I mean, who cares?

It's his life. Yeah. All right, I'm finally prepared to admit it. I am the original jock cheese. Oh my god. What? Finally got off my chest. You started in the band before you were born.

No, it's been an elaborate lie. I'm not 28. I'm 48. Whoa. You look great. Thank you so much. They're also awful. Thank you.

And somehow both. Jock cheese. Ah. Ah. That makes sense. But I remember asking Damien Kelle on that show. I said something like, I'm gone. I said to him before I had him like,

feel free to give me as much shit as I want. But he's just such a super nice guy. And then, but I'm trying. I said to him before and I'm like feel free to give me as much shit as I want, but he's just such a super nice guy and then but I'm trying to sound smart and I said something like I'll post his interview somewhere but I said something like Yeah, so it's like You sort of you know your your high brow references and your low brows. So it's kind of like it It's like a cool interesting juxtaposition and he said something like Matt I couldn't make that question any better by answering it. Oh no.

Oh no. It was so efficient. It was so efficient, the taking down of me. Yeah, he roasted you really great. That is great. He was very nice. You're so nice, what a legend. So what was I talking about again?

Oh, so the success of this album, Maccavelli, I know. It's what a legend. So what was I talking about again? Oh, so the success of this album Maccavelli Was big and it opened the band up to new audiences They played on the massive big day out too, which is the huge at the peak was a huge tour around Australia went to all the capital cities In front of you know 30,000ish fans. Maybe I have no idea but something like that Looking back at this period of mainstream success Ron joke to the Adelaide advertiser that the only reason Tism spent years and years and years in the artistic pure avant-garde is because the mainstream wouldn't have us. But now the mainstream has embraced us.

The avant-garde can go stuff themselves as far as we're concerned. For years and years we've been slagging off the mainstream media and talking about corporate rock-a-roll and the mandatious and tropic forces of world capitalism. But that's only because they wouldn't give us any money. The only reason we wouldn't sell our principles was because no one was buying. Coming out of their biggest mainstream success, Tism went back into the studio to record their follow-up album www.tism.wanker.com with release in 1998, which I think with a name like that. You could probably guess that. The album was highly anticipated, but their choice of single

are titled, I might be a c*****, but I'm not a f*****. Whether it's accompanying video, the parody, the celebrity sex tape, meant that neither radio nor television would touch you. So they're on a hot streak. Yeah. It felt like, yeah, this is the time. I would have been interesting to see what would have happened if they released what I are because that's off the same album as the first single.

And would that have sort of made this album sort of similar heights, but the album did sell well, but not anywhere near as well as the previous album. I think it's another really good album obviously. And is that, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it tracking that website still exists? I don't think it does. Disappointing. I don't think that, yeah, their website's not up anymore unfortunately. Yeah, be cool if it did but yeah, that would, you know, that, that would be them making things easy.

Yeah, yeah, good point. I won't do that. Yeah, I, I think I asked a similar question to Damien on that interview. I'm like, was that on purpose? Were you trying to, were you like, we've had so much success, let's make it hard for us to have success now? And he basically said,

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which was like a rock opera called Two-Pots Screamer. And that was released in 2001. It debuted at number... And I remember, because I bought... That was the first album I bought at the time. That was the first album that came out when I was properly aware of them and stuff. And yeah, I'm pretty sure that even on that, the bonus album, there's a lot of bleeps like, they often happen where things have to get bleped because of legal advice after they've produced it.

Well, it's almost like a song and you can see it. Names have been bleeped out. It's happened a few times. They're redacting music. That's amazing. That's so great. It debuted at number 24 on the charts. And apparently, Flubaird talked to Triple J

and predicted it would drop. He said something like it would drop out of the charts like a stone the following week. And he was right. So yeah, I guess all they're a band with a dedicated fan base though one of those bands would buy they'll buy it straight away. Yeah. I remember their final album that White Album I went to JB High Five, I've probably said

this before, I went week after week. Oh, I've heard you say that. It was due to be released and it was delayed for whatever reasons and I kept going as the new to the book on it. Oh, bless. I'm imagining you going in school uniform. I think that would have been just after school. But you were wearing school uniform. These are short to these knee-high socks. So cute. Just want to do albums.

Excuse me, sir. Can I have some more Tism albums? I'm afraid not today. No, not today, son. I just say Australia, the lucky country without the re. Australia, the lucky ****. Years ago was in a bidding war on eBay for it. I got up to, and I was, you know, it would have been early 20s,

and I had a lot of money, and I bid up to 200 bucks, and I didn't get this like this 5 track EP It was going for up over 200 bucks for CD. Wow. It was the original artwork and so you couldn't get your hands on it I couldn't get my hands off of that much. I was like, oh, you know when you're hard spitting real fast like Yeah, oh this is higher than I can afford I'm gonna go one more all right one more Hope I don't get it.

This is too much. Yeah, so I really do rigour more on a side smash that. I love a lot, but it isn't necessarily loved by critics. I think it's a bit underrated, but in 2003, what's moving towards the end of the career now? In 2003, the band filmed a one-off concert special called the save Autism Telephone The stage was set up complete with the panel of actors playing volunteers making pretend pledges

Throughout the taking pretend pledges throughout the show and there was an MC in a tuxedo calling himself Marcel Proust But I think it was actually played by Melbourne writer Marco Toul. I was there that night. Oh, so you go along? Yeah, so it was at the High Fire bar, then the High Fire now known as Maxwell. Oh, so it actually wasn't broadcast then?

It wasn't broadcast, now this is all live in the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was filmed and later released on DVD. But this wasn't the first high concept live concert they put on. In fact, most of their shows had some elements of this. And I found a bunch of them listed on that ABC J-Files article. As a standard, their live shows always were highly choreographed. Each song had its own dance.

And all the members were dancing in unison. I'm pretty sure your family friend, though, when he joined, he said, I'll play guitar or wear the costumes, but I ain't dancing. So that sound like him. Probably, yeah. Which is pretty funny. So you'd always see him standing,

sort of planted on the left side of the stage, or right on the edge of the stage. Stage left. Stage left. Stage left. So they all had well-rehe and the band didn't talk between songs. They would just hold out big hand drawn cards with the names of their following song, kind of like a wrestling bout, like they ran one or whatever on it, and then they'd

fling them out in the crowd. So you'd often see people walking over and giggling with a few of these title cards under there arms. So that's all just normal stuff. people walk in over gigs with a few of these title cards under their arms. So that's all just normal stuff. But here's a list of some of the more involved live show concept as listed on that ABC article, the Tism Opera. Upon arriving at the Palace in St. Kielder, unsuspecting entrants were given cryptic brochures

pertaining to tonight's opera performance. But behind the stage were rows and rows of empty seats like bleachers. As the start of Tism set became closer, these were gradually filled by people wearing formal wear and tooting opera glasses. This is behind them on the stage. When Tism started playing these upper crusts tofs peered down at the band and crowd as they were the strangest curiosities peered down at the band and crowd as they were the strangest curiosities presented for their titillation and amusement. In between songs they'd offer a light pattern of applause as they look down their noses at the scene before them. It was disconcerting enough through the show, but in the encore the wall between the

artificial class divide crumbled and many the opposite stagedived into the crowd or is the act as whatever, only to be pummeled for their earlier condensation by the Tism fan Another time they did a show it was like a stock exchange when they launched their single let's form a company At this launch the entire palestage was transformed into a huge stock exchange, with all of the listed stock options being different Tism songs. There were buyers on the floor bidding and fake chalkies running around above them on platforms, making mark of stock movements and fluctuations. The joke was that every time Tism started a new song, that track share values would plummet

as everyone clandered to sell. Wow. They played it the Virgin Megastore opening. So when Virgin daint to open, one of their new megastores in Melbourne, in 1989, they caught it off nearby Russell Street and held a big open air concert to celebrate. Tism or one of the main acts, when it was their turn to play, the curtains drew back to reveal a massive backdrop advertising, the longstanding independent music store gaslight records. Members of the band, three thousands of gaslight flies in the crowd. At the end of the set, Hitler Barassi launched a spoken word attack on Virgin and all that it stood for. Lengthy, abusive rhyme along the lines of Richard Branson has taken my family for ransom.

He, that was something that Ron Hillibarasi would do every show. He'd do a long sort of ranty diatribe pole. The other members of the band were furiously moving gear into a truck as he's ranting that had backed up onto the stage. And as he finished his seeing diet triby, joined them in the back of the truck, which promptly rolled its doors down and drove away. That is so wild.

It's so cool. And a wild version. It's like a weird, yeah. Cause they didn't, someone hadn't done their homework on that. And I, all the kids, oh, these guys got four songs in the top, you know, two songs in the top 10,

the triple J. Kids love these guys, We'll get them in. Oh, no. Oh, that's, that is wild. And another, another show they, they, they talk about a lot in the band about how the fans it shows, there's two kinds of Tism fans, the sort of big meat heads at the front who like get real physical and then the sort of the nerad heads at the front who like get real physical and then the sort of the nerdy guys at the back, which I guess is all a part of the same dichotomy between their... Yeah, I call them.

...their life. ...of the content of the game. So it says playing upon the off-lamp in delineation of Tism crowds between those up the front and those up the back. One of Hitler Barassi's incredible, shadi-diatribes was titled, I'm one of the guys who stands up the front and those up the back. One of Hitler Barassi's incredible, shuddy, diatribe's was titled, I'm one of the guys who stands up the front to see Tism, which was just sort of, it was being very mocking to the people who stand up the front. And it had the immortal conclusion.

And if you think that's bad, then you should see the **** who stand up the back. This show at the Palace featured a secret second stage at the rear of the venue and two full Tism setups. When the curtain opened to start the show, the band was suddenly playing at the back of the venue. That there was a free-for-all as people scared to take up the traditional vantage points either at the front or the back.

Only for the band to suddenly appear back on the main stage after a couple of songs and then they would just repeat that. Switching back to front, back to front. And then finally back to the Save Autism Telephone. The 2003 show at Melbourne's High Five are opened with a host of a panel of phone operators, Trinocelicit donations, and an attempt to raise $1 million

to stop Tism from breaking up. After each song, they take a few callers, like pre-recorded calls, the kind of audio sketches as the band stood still in the breaks. This is all available, you can see all this online as well. The payments climb closed and closed as the night went on. And just before the set concluded, they announced, unfortunately, they'd missed the target by $1. This man, as you maybe would predict, the crowd started piffing dollar coins at a stage.

And it's round dollar coins and heavy chunky little coins. And you can see one of them hits Marcel Pruce, the MC in the glasses. Oh my god. Holy crap. Yeah, so it's pretty wild and that, yeah, that would have hurt. Anyway. But they obviously, they stuck to the script and were like, sorry. Sorry, funny.

The show was released the next year on DVD as part of their final album, The White Album Package. Sort of a play on The Beatles White Album. Album. And it came with two DVDs, including a documentary and the live show on a second DVD. So it became their last LP. And due to its unorthodox package of having the DVDs along with it, it was ineligible for the area charts,

unfortunately, so I'm not sure how successful it was sales-wise. It's interesting. So it came in a DVD case, I guess it just counted, yeah, it's kind of annoying, but. Yeah, I'd, I'd, would have been interesting to see if it had chatted or whatever Certainly if there were many other nerds like me rocking up to jb high five every couple days

What I'm like, what are you talking about go away? These little shorts is a high socks everybody did you have to get the carriage up to ask again be like? Yes Sorry about the air Day high socks everybody did you have to get the carriage up to ask again be like yes Sorry about the year it's this one doing if the new to some is it all to some Is there a new to some yet? I'm so sorry not like place you could just call it. Yeah Catching a bus down there of something. Um, that's my impression of you, and I think it's all right. That's not bad. That was me.

That was me back then. That's not bad. Do you cry when they finally said, oh, actually, you know, that are off the street. It was a beautiful moment. I was really nice moment. I ended up, I met, I met Ron and Humphrey at a showing there was a, at Acme that they showed the live footage when they released it. Of the high five I buggy that you'd be in at. Yeah, yeah. And then

and there was some Q and A and stuff like that. And you already owned the DVD. I already owned the DVD because I bought it the day it came out. And then I got after the show you can line up, mean great. So I never I would never know. I don't think it's the only time maybe I've ever done it. And I got to the front and I realized everyone's buying the album there and getting it signed. I'm like, I've already got it at home. So I didn't have it there to get it signed. And I regret it after that. I didn't just buy another fucking copy. But I pulled out my pocket, the only thing I had. And because of the songs with Saints Lewis in the past, I assumed they were Saints supporters for some reason.

And I'd just been to the footy to see the Targas play the Saints. Saints had a great win. And I was like, Best Day in the... What a day for you! And I remember that because I, I like, I would your mind,

I don't have, I've already got the album at home, would your mind signing this? And Humphrey was like, all right, he turns out that doesn't give a fuck about football at all, but Ron does. And he goes, what a shit going. Turns out he was the target support. I'm like, oh, I thought you were a side supporter.

Sorry about that. And he's like, yeah, I guess they're sort of the unofficial team of the, so I really was shattered. It's obviously a big, footy fan. Wow. I've heard of poor Salt on that one. What a tedious story. Anyway, they...

Oh, it's cute. They're one of the most successful things. I was just wondering if you could sign this for me. I don't have the album here with me. I swear I own it already. I bought it. I went to JB Hifi every day. I would have been, I'm sure, I would have got home.

I would have been leaving. I would have been thinking in my head like, idiot, idiot. Why don't you say all these different things, lying in bed, that night gone stupid. Stupid should have bought the album. Should have shut your mouth and just let them talk. God, idiot.

I did that so often with tripod. So I firstly couldn't talk to them. Took me five, six years to talk to them. The musical comedy trio tripod. Yeah, the reason I do comedy tripod. And then every time I did, I'd walk away like, what the fuck did you just say, you idiot? They hate you.

You are a stupid moron. Never go into comedy. You might meet them at some point. I remember one time, on the same night, I had two awkward moments in Melbourne coming to Fessel when I was, we were in a teen, some of the, try, John walk past and I went, hey, and he looked as like, yeah, and I just pretend I didn't say anything. Panicked. Panicked, panicked.

And another time I was lining up to see Greg Fleet and he was walking past the line and going in, I was like, oh, hey, look for it. I was sitting in the show. Oh, such a big fan. Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh, I shouldn't have said it. Oh, so sorry. And he's just having a calming down. He's like, hey, no, it's great.

It's really nice. No! Thanks so much for coming. It's really nice to meet you. Oh, shit, I'm such an idiot. Shouldn't have said, I'm so sorry. You've got to show to think about. What am I talking about?

You four. I'm so sorry Greg Fleet. You're a legend of comedy and I'm an idiot. I'm so sorry. And he's just sort of like pat me. And then he was rounded out studio years later. And I read told him a story. Obviously, I had no memory of that.

And he's just like, oh yeah, sorry man. Oh no. Sorry. And then again, I'm like, oh, yeah, sorry man. Oh no. Sorry. And then again, I'm like, oh no. No. That's not it. Yeah. Stupid, stupid.

I want to bring that up. I had a chance to play it cool. So in five years again, sorry, five years ago, you were at the stupid L.C. And I was telling you the story. Oh no. I did it again. I did the next time I spoke to him properly,

we were driving up to a gig. I was supporting him up in Aubrey. Oh my God. So I was sharing a car up there and I did not mention anything. Played it like I'd never heard of him before. Very good. Hey, who are you again?

Greg, who? Greg, who? Nice. Greg, feet wasn't... Yeah, feet supporting who you. Am I on? Am I on the star here or...? So, here, let me give you a few tips for comedy,

because I know you're new. Like, I was obviously didn't go that far, but it definitely was a much nicer experience. Good, Matt, well done. Well done. Well done. Well done, people like people. He learned.

Also, I think I've realized by now that people are just people. Yeah. Well, people sometimes get excited to meet us and I stand there going, I'm a, I put my pants on one leg at a time. Yeah, I'm a regular human being. I think I can, I can, I can definitely see how stupid they are. So dumb, because I'm an idiot. You are. I'm a nothing person.

I'm rarely excited to see. Wow. Rarely, but often, it happens. Dave? I'm always excited to see you. Yeah, you two fellas, we are. I was joking, I am very excited. I'll start a play.

Fuck you. I'm trying to play. Fuck you dumb. I've learned my lesson now. Anyway, what were we talking about? Tism. You better beat that up. My parents will be listening.

We're talking. Where I said you dumb. I can't hold it, there's a lot of words in here. Good luck beat that. My time will be listening. Where I said you dumb. I can't hold. There's a lot of boys in the video. Good luck with that. We were talking about the time that you met Tism and fuck. That is what I'm going to do. You're literally in control of the report.

You can move on. Tell me to go on. He went for Richmond and you showed him the thing that made his team lose. So yeah, one of my favorite albums, their final album. The white album. Yeah. And what, what year was the final one? 2004, 2004.

2004, 2015. That's a long year. 2004, I think. Yeah. Um, For I think, yeah. The album had a few live favorites, even though it was only a tour, maybe two tours. After the album came out,

one of them was played, I reckon it all gigs, was Tis and a shit, which is something about how they're shit, which is, you still see on, if you look at any thread online about Tis and someone will be in their sanctism as shit. Which would be confusing to people coming in. Yeah, she's a track ballerad of hate. No, I'm a big fan.

I love them! The album's opening track, everyone else has had more sex than me. Dad, I was in... Is that that song? After we got it. Everyone else has had more sex than me. Wow. I was released with an animated film clip with little bunnies in a running race.

And they gained a lot of traction online, especially in Germany. So much so that it was released there as a single by Sony BMG, and it was Tism's only non-Australian release. Wow. And made the commercial charts in Germany. Holy shit. You've got a kind of a quite a weird end to their long recording career as a band. Then the Green Room with Paul Provenza, which is a comedy chat show, used another track

of that album, Somebody Start a Fight or something, as they're the show's theme song. Cool. Their final concert was at the Earthcore Festival on the 27th of October 2004, just kind of like a bush-duff festival. Right. This is like seemingly odd place for them to perform at all, let alone their big final gig. So I'm not exactly sure the story of it, while that was, or if that was just like seemingly odd place for them to perform at all, let alone their big final gig. So I'm not exactly sure the story of what that was,

or if that was just them going, yeah, this would be a nice, weird way to end, or yeah, I'm just not sure. But yeah, it sort of feels almost fitting that, I've still got the beat magazine, the Street Press, that the front cover that week came out with a drawing of Tism, hiding in the trees taking over Earthcore, which is pretty sick. That's cool. Yeah, it's pretty sick. Yeah, it's pretty sick.

Um, excuse me, I was just wondering if you had any more copies of Beat magazine. Broden was on the same episode that we interviewed Damien Kow, playing my cousin, the air conditioning salesman, but he was, he was giving me ladies like, I'm loving seeing you, fanboy. Yeah. If they had broke, so they had a fanboy. I'm like, I'm playing a cool man. I'm playing a pretty cool man.

Is that your broding impression? I'm a brodinger. Oh, the actor is playing broding. Boy, I'm a matte. It's very nice to see you, but fanboy. You're a fanboy, broding. Fanboy. He's a hard guy.

That was the first time I'd properly met broding. Yeah, right. Because before that, we'd interacted on Twitter Twitter and then one time I walked past him at Town Hall during Comedy Festival and he kind of waved at me and I freaked out because I was like, oh my god Brodon knows who I am. So this is the first time that we properly, that we had properly met. You guys are such losers. Fuck you.

But he was in character the whole time. So he was like a bit gruff. Yeah. Kinda because he was in this character and then as soon as we were finished, he was like, so great to properly meet you, just so exciting. And I was like, oh my god, you're actual bro.

I was very confusing. Yeah, he really went deep into the Rhino character. Yeah, right in the air conditioner salesman. Right now. Oh, so good. This is what you would know about Well Jess, I'm just going to mention about your family friend, how he sadly passed away in 2008 after battling cancer at the age of 50. Jock to his friends, real name James Paul.

His obituary in the age was a really nicely written article about him, which is so like an insight to stuff that may not have heard otherwise. Yeah. Because it was all very private stuff, I guess, but he's part of it. Said Paul joined Sismi 1992. Ten years after the group was formed by Melbourne University friends, this is where I read the Merlin Unit. Yeah. And his fine guitar playing and songwriting became an integral part of the group's groundbreaking music and outlandish performance art concepts. He was part of Tism's most successful period, which took them to what once would have been an unthinkable ascent into the top 10 in album charts.

His talents were not confined to the punked up pop of Tism. His mastery of the classical guitar meant he could add haunting, focused accompaniment to the music of other singers such as Astrid Monday. He also enjoyed a quietly satisfying career playing Chicago Blues as the frontman of his own band Blind Lemon Chicken. And even within Tism, he pushed the boundaries, scoring and conducting a fully realized, magical piece that was unceremoniously tacked onto the end of an album, unlisted and unlawed it. LAUGHTER

Well, yeah, it's funny that you were talking earlier about, we couldn't remember what his name was. Mum couldn't remember. And when he did pass away, I was in Year 12, and I was reading something like Beat magazine, but might have been Beat, actually. And it just had this tiny little thing about a member of Tism and Passaway. and they called him jock cheese, and now I remember

mum being like, no, he wasn't jock cheese. Yeah, because his nickname, Obstet, was jock, that led to a lot of confusion at the time. Yeah. So, you look a bit. Yeah. Yes, that's obviously, that's a bit heartbreaking. I think that probably because people always talk about will they get back together? I don't I don't have no idea, but I always thought oh, that's probably makes it very difficult. Yeah, you put that I wouldn't speak on their behalf. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, who knows, but yeah, he can't. Yeah, they, um, but yeah, I've also again on that on that interview with Damien Kow, I asked him that question, would they ever, and he's sort of like, he's like, to be honest, it would probably be shit if we did. I haven't played for a while now.

So, deprecating to the end, he just was like, yeah, he's just like, you know, everyone thinks it's a good idea for bands to come back. Yeah. But it usually isn't. That's kind of what he said. Yeah. And I'll talk basically to finish off talk about Humphrey Beef for there, OK?

Damien Cowell. Mostly other members of Laidloat since. But Humphrey came out in 2007 and started playing shows, again, under the name DC Root, fronting a band called Root, or or caps for the next one much more. Sorry, I should say RooT will like a country-ish kind of band. And he's still sort of hiding his identity a little bit,

but the DC and DC roots, obviously, his initials. Then after RooT finished up, he was commissioned by David Walsh, the boss at Mona, to create a soundtrack for his museum, the museum evolved a new art in Hobart, and the soundtrack was titled, Versus Art. In 2010, after Rueck broke up, the DC3 was formed, a three-piece, fronted by him again, and now who was sort of out as Damien Kau,

the first time I think he really talked about his real name, and the band released a single called, I Was the Guy and Tism, which ended any speculation as to just to be clear. Yeah. Because obviously he's got a very distinctive voice. He's the more melodic singer. Ron Hitler-Berassi is the more of the ranty, rocky singer and Damien Cowell's got that great big soaring.

Right. So not the one that's like, forget Stoop Doggy Dog. Yeah, that's right. That's Ron. Forget Old Ice Team. Forget stoop doggy dog. Yeah, that's right. That's wrong. You get old ice team. Where is Donekow? Is border card just you know the dude? Yeah, man, could that baby run?

If you haven't heard me, you've got to check him out. They're so great. Yeah, I should make it. I wish the Spotify was like, I could make a playlist for people who wasn't doing it. But I'll put some links so people can find it. Yeah. So it was now making art basically for, like probably Australia's maybe most famous modern museum.

In 2000, so then DC3 also disbanded. And in 2015 he started touring his solo project, which is called Damien Kow's Disco Machine. So far they've released two albums and he's collaborated. Each album is like every track seems to have a different big name from Australian musical comedy, including Sean McCallough, Tim Rogers, Kate Milharki, John Safran Sampang, Julia Zamero and Tony Martin. Tony Martin perform with him, man. Tony Martin has sort of become an honorary full-time member of the group now. Yeah, so it's and I've seen him play for some so much fun. I mean, all these shows are so much great fun. Yeah. Start of even doing a little, um, Tism medley,

medley, yes. And um, which is kind of nice. And I think it really there are, it's definitely in the same ballpark with Tism, very funny, clever lyrics over just catchy, bouncy party tunes. I mean, it's, yeah, he sort of really embraced the disco idea. Awesome. So, yeah, Tony Martin's now become a full-time member of the group. What's Tony playing? I'll do.

He's sort of like dancing backup vocals. Tony Martin dancing. Yeah, he's dancing real fun. He like dancing backup vocals. Tony Martin dancing. Yeah, his dance is real fun. He just, he goes all in. I love it. Great. Funnily enough, the first time Tony Martin met Domingale,

he had no idea who he was behind the Bella clava. This is from an article on Sydney Morning Herald's website, Big Paper in Sydney, obviously. Martin was on air with Mick Maloy at Fox FM, it was the big radio show of the time, Martin Maloy, in Melbourne, two members of techno rock satire, Troutism arrived in full regalia for their scheduled interview. The radio comedians couldn't have known that the masked man, identifying as Humphrey B. Flabé, was in fact a mild-mannered advertising copywriter from sister station, Triple M, taking a sneaky break from his office cubicle downstairs.

They minute called a cab, left his desk and gone down to the back alley to meet up with Ron Hitler-Barrassi and get into these giant inflatable archbishop costumes. This is all quoting Martin. They got in the cab and drove around to the front of the building, came up and did the interview, then went back downstairs again, got changed and went back to his desk. It was all 10 years before I knew that Martin says. That's awesome! That's so funny! This is the same building!

Yeah! That's so good! I love committing to it to calling a cab, so you're rocking up and a cab and it's walking! Yeah! So guys, we're going to go to the dentist, be back in an hour. Yeah. It's gonna go beyond radio for a bit.

So fun. That's awesome. Yeah, I really like that story a lot. They really do, not only in their music, but it does seem like with everything, they don't take anything too seriously. It's all very serious, but also not serious at all. I mean, this is serious, Mom.

Exactly. Yeah. Far out. What's very good. What a juxtaposition. Am I right? What a dichotomy. It's a word you've thrown around. If you don't, I love it. I think found that. Yeah. So you should be. This is just to finish. Maybe this is the final paragraph of that ABC article, which I think sums it all pretty nicely. Even though I don't know if it's fully true, as the first one says, there will never be another band like Tism,

whereas I do think Damien Cal's Discourmachine is a band like Tism. It's not a bit like Tism. But all the same, there will never be an, and it also interestingly, I had Tony Martin on primates spin-off show from this. And we talked a bit about Damien Cal's Discourmachine and stuff. And he pointed out, which is, I knew but it didn't really sink in that since

autism finished, Damien Kow's probably, I think he's done more LPs outside of autism than he did with his amazing house. So he's been pretty prolific since leaving. I'll always keep it up the day job, I think. There's other bits and pieces off the side like, uh, jo, jock cheese released a solo album called Platter, jock cheese platter. No. Ron Hitler Barassi released a, a novel, which was,

as him, as his own, you know. Right. His actual name. Yeah. He didn't want to put Ron Hitler Barassi on a book. No, yeah, we'd like that. I think the first time that names were revealed that people noticed was,

do you remember John Cephan's music, Jamboree? Yeah, it was. That was really, really liked it. Yeah. On that, they played never gonna be an old man river with on Greek instruments. They did like a world music segment. At the end, they'd always have it.

I mean, friends are wrong. Played a bunch of the shows. Yeah. And then in the credits, they their real names performing the song. But the cut out of the bag for some people. I think these days would be very hard to keep such things as secret anyway. But it's also like how much the people care about it or not. But yeah, he released a fiction novel a few years back. What else are other interesting tidbits? There's so many. And this is what I'll say. Like, I could have... There's so many funny interviews I would have loved to read out and gone through different

songs and stuff. But I think this is probably the way to go for a sort of a, like, an... I imagine a lot of the listeners that never heard of Tism from me banging on about on the show. Anyway, out of finish, this is it from the ABC. There will never be another band like Tism, because there will never be another configuration of musically talented and super intelligent people who so gloriously don't give a fuck. They're gone, but if there's even a scaric of justice in this world, they will never be forgotten.

For the briefest time, they illuminated the landscape and made life seem exciting and joyous and full of possibilities. That's more than one should ask or expect from a rock and roll band. Tism a dead, long live Tism. That's great. What a beautiful piece of writing. Yeah, that's beautiful. What a beautiful report. Great job, Matt.

That's great, Matt. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I was... I'd said to... Yeah. I'd love to have had another week to write it, but I think it is, you know. I've done great. And I knew embarrassingly little aboutism. Yeah, right. Probably because I wasn't allowed to listen to them. Yeah.

Because they're not that kid friendly to be fair. No. And maybe it was because we knew, Jock, that it would, like, don't, you don't want to hear Jock say anything and stuff like that. We don't want to damage the way the kids look at this nice, lovely man who's been a long time friend. I had no idea they did that fun stuff with their live shows. Yeah, that would have been so cool.

That's wild. There were so many other ones as well that they were talking about. There was the kind of disastrous one where they, because they used to play with the suburban stuff a lot. So one, they had whippers, nippers, and lawn mowers running inside and enclosed. Oh, that's terrible. So just fumes that just like you couldn't see and everyone had to open up the place to let everyone out.

So I was always trying out stuff and it was really making it a show. So there was so that's why I loved it. The live shows were amazing. I was lucky enough to get into them like properly over the last like handful of years and I think I saw them five times live. And every show, like they'd be five of my favorite ever. Like a performance. You saw them do some cool stuff?

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, I was at the telephone and yeah, most of the shows were sort of conceptual. I saw one time I saw them do a secret shot, the tote, which is maybe my favorite of all of them. It was them sort of rehearsing just in plain black, balaclava, and get up to... place it only fits like a couple hundred people. Yeah, just on a proper rock show, kind of iconic Melbourne bar and yeah, I feel I feel sad that I

didn't get to see more, but I feel very lucky that I got to see them at all. And so happy that Damien has continued performing live and and yeah, so in my head, he's sort of making it still happen. And he came on your community. I still cannot believe that. That was wild, that was so cool. So cool. And he had me on as well, wild. And you met Broden.

So I met Broden that day. Who else, a Kappa was on? Kappa was there. It was an Ulster cast. Yeah. Olympic gold medalist Lydia Lissilla. Lissilla. Lissilla.

Lissilla. Lissilla. Lissilla. So yeah, she told me after we stopped recording that I'd been saying it wrong. But she was cool. She was nice. She was cool, but she was as cold as she told me.

I was really, which was probably just fuck with me. It was great fun. She was really fun but she was as cold as she told me. Oh, really? Which was probably just fucking with me. It was great fun. She was really fun, actually. Yeah. And how amazing that you listed all those people and the gold medalist came last. Oh, yes, some gold medalist was also. Yeah, but Kappa was there. Yeah, can you believe it?

And Brian! And Jess. Yes. I was playing a sense of... I was a sense of, but I was a sense of it. I reckon if we had time to, like obviously that was a throwing together show with no rehearsal or anything, and it was very loose, and my parents watched it and said later, yeah, like that interview towards the end, they were good.

It's brutal about it. Zavey, Mike, ladies is on as well. Zavey was there. Zavey, Mike, I'm going to break down. I'm like, I reckon that'd be a sick, that'd be a sick weekly late show. But anyway, you know, well, if you- When I become a millionaire,

when I be a week. If they be weak. If they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, if they be weak, big wigs listening, then they should give us a show. Hello big wigs.

That's all I'm asking. Just one shot at maybe a full season, CBS in America. 24 episodes. We are not. We are not asking too much. I'm not asking too much. I'm not asking too much. I'm not asking too much.

I'm not asking too much. I'm not asking too much. I'm not asking too much. I'm not asking too much. I'm not asking too much. I'm not asking too much. I'm not asking too much. I'm not asking too much.

I'm not asking too much. I'm not asking too much. I'm not asking too much. I'm not nervous about it. I do know there will be some first-time listeners who've come just for Tism because the fan base is pretty Robert and they take in everything and they will just be sitting there with a red pen All right, no, I don't think so because I think they'll be they got the right sort of spirit about it And you covered a lot of great stuff. It's fascinating It's funny though like because they had there is more online to know about them now than there was at the time Now other interesting fact, you know, jet the band, their uncles and Tizzards. Or you would, you know, all those things.

I didn't know that. Because Jock came over to our house one time and walked past my bedroom and I had a jet poster and he was like, oh no, those boys. And I was like, what? Because I still hadn't quite fit. You know, in like, I think it must be the case for kids who's parents are on TV.

It's just kind of, that's just mum. Like, it was just jock. I was like, what are you talking about? How could you possibly know someone the jit? That's quite, it's just, it's, it's we's jobs. What he did. That's easy. It's a bloody muse, though. He knows everybody. I think, they, because of that connection, they were pretty merciless giving jet-shit in late interviews, which is pretty fun, which I wouldn't have got the joke at the time, but for them, it would have been actual layers of fun because they're just roasting their friends and nephews. Now, good stuff. She is, mate. Now, it's time for that part of the show, where we thank some of our Patreon supporters.

That's right, well we do the list, Tism thing ever, and sell out baby. Yeah. And the first part, are we doing it, are we doing it, Manny? Fact quote or question. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- Uh, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun senior vice president is senior vice that's bought up for grabs that was it apparently that was some autism did early in their career they wrote letters to people like Prime Minister Paul Keating and maybe Eddie Van Haaland offering them the position of tambourine player in the bank

oh good fun um so Manny asked the question this week, in fact, quote, a question, he's chosen question. He asked the question, what advice would you give to other creatives when having a mental block or when feeling down on starting a new project? Oh, as serious as that. Oh! Do we have to give serious answers? Because that would mean being emotionally vulnerable. Something artists cannot do.

What would you do? My thing I like to do is go to other people and watch their stuff. Yeah, listen to something. What do we sound ripping off? Pagerizing. Yeah, yeah. Getting inspired. And sometimes I find it can be inspiring if you Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm basically getting inspired and sometimes I find it can be inspiring if you Find inspiration, but not from something in your field like yeah, so I I'm very easily inspired Which is great trait to have but also sometimes terrible because I'm like oh Maybe I should write a book. Oh, no, I should do a film. Oh, no, you know, yeah, but um, yeah, you watch something really great and even if it's not something you wanna do, you go, oh God, I wanna make something that good.

Right. But in my own thing. Like when you go and see a really great live band, back when I wanted to be a musician, I'd be like, yeah, I wanna do that. But now I see that and go, oh, that's really great. I wanna be that good, but a comedy. Yeah. Yeah, right. That's cool. So I find inspiring to watch something great that other people have done. I think that makes sense to me. Reading, I think, is a cool

thing to do. Yep. Or just changing up what you're trying to do. So I've just recently had to work on a show and so I went through a lot of the issues. I kind of changed my daily routine a fair bit. I started waking up earlier and just trying to get into some sort of routine. I'd list out things I wanted to get done in that day. I'd also try and sleep better. I've started reading before bed, which has been something that's worked well, but I think just changing up your routine, if it's not working, then change it up and do something else.

And I also find, depending on what it is, I find doing something that takes part of your focus away. That helps me a lot. So sometimes I find it hard to sit and write, or if I'm if I'm feeling blocked up, sitting and trying to write, I'll go for a drive, I'll go for a walk, or something like that.

And I don't know what the science is, because I'm not a scientist, I should say that. Something about my brain having a focus on driving that it frees up whatever's blocking me from getting better at the stuff that it opens up. I don't know. Anyway, I hate myself for talking sincerely for so long. LAUGHTER I would probably say all of those things, do something adjacent, not quite what your thing

is, but to the left of it. You know, like I've started playing music again, not for anybody, but myself, just to get that part of my brain working again. I'm trying to read more. But also sometimes you just have to just do it anyway. So if it's writing jokes or if it's painting a picture and you're not happy with anything you're doing, just do it anyway because it's the process

of flexing that muscle. So it's gonna, you're gonna unblock anyway. So just sit there, even if it's shit, just do it anyway. it's gonna you're an unblock anyway, so just sit down even if it's shit just do it anyway Do it anyway like been folds once said hmm Thank you. That was too sincere. Yeah, what's oh I'm not just thinking about how I'm gonna die Right, I find that inspiring because one with two ways. It's like well. It doesn't really matter So two you might as well give it a truck give it a crack. Yeah, it definitely can go either way that one. Yeah

I'm gonna die so I'm not gonna try or gonna die I'm gonna go into existential no, I think some people that works for but I just think about like yeah No, I'm gonna try really hard because I'm as well. Yeah, that's a good point So I hope that is a appropriate answer for you there, many, and thank you for supporting the show. Thanks so much. Thank you so much.

Another thing we do as well at the end of every episode is we thank a handful of Patreon supporters who support us at patreon.com slash do go on pod. That's right, I'm not gonna thank them in the order that they pledge. So we haven't quite got to you yet. We promise we will soon. We do appreciate you. You're ongoing support. What are we going to do with these supporters? Well, I think, do you remember last week when we had Naomi on and we sort of did a word at a time.

Oh, yeah, I think that would actually work very well with the Tism song. A pseudonym or a Tism song. Oh, pseudonym. Oh, oh, no, we're not clever enough. They're not going to be so punny. No, no, we, we start the pun master Dave finish them off. So we love them up and then he finish. Yeah, okay, great.

That I think that'll work. What do you reckon? I don't really like how the punking, Matt, is trying to put the pun thing back on me. All right. Trying to rebrand me as the pun mask. I feel like today you proved that you actually are. You actually are. You're very good at it.

You are good at it, Dave. You're a punking. You are the bow down to you. What do you want to do? So do you want to do the stage day or the song then? I could do. I don't even. I'd be good. I think the pun mask could do whatever you want. Yeah, come on Let's alternate. All right great. Well, I'd love to thank from South Yorkshire in the UK

Mr. Lewis Falstone Wow Maybe to cause English people pronouncing's weirdly could be Lewis Fulston. Fulston. Fulston's nice. Yeah, Fulston's nice. Falshtone sucks. Probably his real name, sorry. Sorry, it's Falshtone, but maybe pronounce it Fulston when you meet new people.

Actually, it's Fulston. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, yeah, what's that name that looks like, looks like Dick Had or something, but people go, no, it's Dikey. It's real, there's one with Coburn. Yeah, Coburn. Coburn, no, no, it's dark heed. There's one with Coburn. Coburn. No, no, it's Coburn.

Yeah. What does that say in Kay doing in the middle of the sweet rebrand? That is Coburn. Hasn't quite worked. Just own it, I reckon. Double down on the Coburn. Yeah, always double down on the Coburn. Okay.

Who wants to start? All right. So we're just, I mean, should we just work with their actual first name and then Dave, you can turn that into something? Could you do that? Do you have that skill? No, if I said Lewis, could you turn Lewis into it some sort of a palm thing?

Like, could you mix Lewis with some sort of high art thing? Whists? Yeah. Is there a famous Lewis? Yeah, or Whist Tony or something? Oh, what about, what about Lewis-Lismother? Holy shit. Who Whmother? Holy shit. I don't know what it means, but I'll love it. No, Wistler's mother, that famous painting is famously destroyed by Mr. Bean in the Mr. Bean movie. No, you don't know it. Do you know Wistler's mother? Why don't I, I'm now that you said

that. I said the one that Mr. Bean destroys. Yeah, I know what you're talking about, but I didn't know what it was called. You know, the Wist Mr. Bean thing. Yeah, I know the Mr. Bean destroys, yeah, I know what you're talking about, but I didn't know what it was called. You know, the whistle, Mr. Bean thing? Yeah, no, the Mr. Bean thing, but I didn't know that it was called. I reckon that's one of the most famous American paintings of all time. I have explained that I know it, but I didn't know the name.

Yeah, she doesn't seem to be whistling to me. No, she's not whistling at all. Anything I'd call that the sitter. Her mouth is closed. No, it's because the painter's whistler. No, she's not whistle. It's actually called arrangement in gray and black number one. That I can't. That we get. Thank you. It's not qualified, it's actual. No. Talk to us like,

chump to you. Thank you. Louisle's mother is pretty good. That's great. And you will do that five more times. Thank you so much, Lewis. And I'd also love to thank from Horsham in Country Victoria, not too far away from us. Lauren Andrew. Lauren, thank you so much for supporting the show. And to thank you, Dave Will, Chris and you. Lauren Andrew Orsay. Like he's good.

Paris, is that him? I assume. Is it the me, she said Orsay, the me, the me, the me, you are crashing it. Which is actually, once again, we don't know what you're talking about. We assume. This feels like Tism, whatever you're saying. I assume this is good.

Well, you can find Whistler's mother, Muse Doorsay in Paris, bang. Nailed it, all right. That's a hot start. So now I have to make the next two combines somehow. Yeah, and I think you can do it. I'd like to thank from Chicago. Chicago!

Chicago, the winter city. Illinois. Uh, Camille Barovski. We know Camille. We know Camille. He gave me a Gary T-shirt. He's a lovely, lovely man. He was on my blind dating shows

Protacular. He was too. I assume that he's very happy with the comedian that he chose. Yeah, which may Who was that Nana Camille who was anyway? Are you a stalling? It's good stall. It's gonna be some milleners or something like that. What's that a hat maker? You're actually very helpful to him. You're a good team, you two. Should I step out? No, you should step up.

Oh, I've got it. All right, okay, yeah. Camille, I park a balls. Oh, fuck it, how you are good. That is terrible. That is terrible. That is terrible. No, it's brilliant.

That is terrible. Wait, what's the second meaning there, though? Don't we need two things? You've just said an English accent. What about Camille? I'll love Parker Bola hat. Yeah, okay, now we're getting somewhere. You highbrow, Bola hat, lowbrow, Camille Bola.

Yeah. I love that. Take that, Camille. That is good. And thank you, Camille. We love you and we miss you. I'd also like to thank from Muggy and New South Wales. Kirsty or... Thank you, Kirsty, for some foremost, well-dived

things. Ooh, we can see the cogs turning. Thank you for supporting the show. Oh, nothing at all. Oh, well. Oh, nothing at all, all well. On a mental. Oh, Kirsty, you all wells that ends well. Fuck, yes! That's George all well and Shakespeare and one, dip. Two of the big riders of the human race. Oh well, oh braille, Shakespeare hyper.

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Easy top. Low class? Is that what you say? Not low class, what do I say? Low brown. Low brown. I mean, if you call that, probably say the other way around, to be honest.

Yeah, we're putting it up like, boom, boom, boom, boom. Are you gonna do our last one to bring us home? On Bring us home, from Amherst in NH. New Hamstead, is that a state? Hampshire. New Ampshire, NH state, U, S, O, U, H, H, H, H, H, H, H. New Hamshire. New Hampshire and H state you

New Hampshire yeah, I know how you already said that I said that cuz I'm smart I thought you were guessing I was kind of guessing but also I got it right so now I'm gonna be cocky Amos in new amp cheer it's Zachary Allen Ellis Zachary Allen Ellis. Ooh! Oh! Oh! Zachary Allen Ellis. Zachary Allen Ellis. Zachary Allen Ellis.

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He's done it again! Yeah! Yeah! Woo! Well done, Dave. Very proud of you. Thank you. He's done it again! Yeah! Woo! Well done, Dave, very proud of you. Thank you. We gave you so little help.

Thank you so much. I saw you. Well done. Thank you, Sharma. I reckon putting those six people together, they would definitely make an act that would rival Tism. I also think that Zack should make his new ringtone. Zachary Ellen. Zachary Ellen.

Zachary Ellen. Zachary Ellen. Zachary Ellen, Ellis. Zachary Ellen, Ellis. No, actually he should get people that he knows well to have that be the ringtone when he calls. Yes. So it's like his mom's calling, isn't it? Yeah. He's calling his mom and she just says Zachary Ellen Ellis.

Zachary Ellen Ellis. And he's like, and she still goes, I wanna do that is. There's moms, you know know they are bloody cookie like who's and I love them love moms Whistler's mother love her I'm a mom lover. I'm a mom lover Mom lover Benny Thank you to all those people who support the show. Thank you to all the moms out there. Yeah Thanks to all the moms if you're a mom or if you have a mom or if you know someone who's a mom or if you've seen a mom on TV.

Or if this is a serious mom. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you mums. Thank you. We wrap it up on that fantastic mom. We should. Thanks to all the people that listen to the show and they've listened right through to the

end to hear me say, if you liked it, why not share it with one of your nearest and nearest for example, your mum. Yeah. Get your mum on board. There's a few mums that have gotten on board. Absolutely. And sometimes we meet them at the live shows with their child. Yes.

Yeah, there's been a couple of bubs. I love when there's a bub there. I always want to ask if I can hold the bub, but then I'm like, don't be weird. Just you're a stranger. Don't hold the baby. We definitely shouldn't do that. I know. That's why I don't. I don't want to hold it.

Like, can I like touch it? I just don't think, I don't think our insurance covers it. Ah. Drop babies. I think I saw that with my last risk. I am very clumsy. Yeah. And my hands are usually covered in butter.

You have to take a thing on the performance insurance form. Yeah. Will you be holding a baby? Will you be fire twirling? Nero baby. You want to get in contact with us or support the show on Patreon. You can go to dogoonpod.com. There's also links to our online merchandise and our red bubble store.

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you don't have to be a patron, support to do that, anyone can suggest a topic at any time, and of course the social, a supporter to do that. Anyone can suggest a top, you get any time. And of course, the social media or at Duke or one part and all the stuff. Find us. Glikus, link us, love us. And yeah, please do recommend a civil friend, give us a five-star review if you got the time. That'd be so nice.

So lovely. We'd really appreciate it. Apparently it lifts visibility Dave told me a while ago and I've been banging on about it ever since. He's very impressionable. I really am. Oh, you gotta be mentioning us for a few. He's always talking about now, even the people that are on the podcast.

Hey, am I giving a synchronous of 5-star reviews? Can you just chuck on 5-star reviews? It just really helps with visibility. Yeah. I don't know what it means, but buzzwords. Engagement. It has been of a dichotomy there. A dichotomy between the audience and the engagement.

Thanks so much everyone for listening. It has been a real pleasure. I think maybe the next time you hear from us might be in Adelaide. That's probably true. If you're in Adelaide. La Dida. Very exciting.

I'll have a little Veno. Come along to the National One Center on a beautiful Sunday afternoon. We'll be there regalia with a story as old as time itself. Wow. Is it about clocks? Yeah.

Cool. Aladdin? Yeah. Taylor's as old as time. Wait, is that Aladdin? I'm beauty in the bass. It's the very next line. It's time we'll line. We'll talk about Latter.

Mm, mm, mm. I am a singing teapot. My son is somehow a teacop. Although surely she would have a smaller teapot. Yeah. Right? Am I right? And then just getting along with a candlestick.

Don't open this up to people messaging and saying, no, they started off as humans or something. Yeah. It's fucked off. Maybe a witch came in. Maybe the beast that somebody with a beast fucked a cup. The beast got in fucking cups. What happened here?

What, what are you doing to us? It's about time someone unfroze that bastard. The beast fucked. And I'll ask him a few big questions. Let's get out of here. Thank you everyone and goodbye! Later! Bye!

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