Two In The Think Tank - 18 - Tattoos

Episode Date: February 24, 2016

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Starting point is 00:00:57 Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. you. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On You are listening to my voice I am Dave Warnicki and I'm here with Jess Perkins. Hello Jess. Hello Dave, how are you? I am well. I'm hoping you are well and I'm also hoping that someone as well is you across the road, the road, I was gonna say, across the road for me.
Starting point is 00:01:31 That's how long. I am the microphone leads are these days. It's matched to it everyone. Hey Dave, it's good to be out this outside broadcast across the road at the meat packing plant. You're on location at the meat packing plant. What if the cross road for me? A lot of pigs.
Starting point is 00:01:47 A lot of pigs. We actually don't get along very well here at Do Go On. So now that we've got the budget for it, we actually record this from three separate locations. I'm into state. In the United States. I mean, you are. You are.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Wow. Well, I'll just keep smiling underneath the table. I didn't mind it. Just before it was still there. And kind of ruining your whole across the road into state, in the states thing. I've ruined everything, but um... Should we start again?
Starting point is 00:02:14 No, I think it's totally cool. All right. You only live one, I mean, yeah, we were also recording onto old school tapes, so there's only a certain amount of... Hey, David is it. When you introduced Jess first, which is fine, I mean where what do we, quite a few episodes in, that's the first time we've done it, which seems a bit weird, but that's okay. I'm fine with that, that you normally go to me first,
Starting point is 00:02:37 but I just don't say the next 100 episodes, I'll have Jess on just to really get the average. I think you. But Jess knows, because we are, that's just clockwise, you was you've done it clock was yeah but we're sitting in a different order. Yeah that's honestly why I'm saying yeah but he said to you hope you're well and just kept moving on didn't even he just he just didn't even with a chance he didn't want to hear it if you had any. Oh I noticed that yeah and thank you for also picking up on that. I thought it was. You know what I'm gonna say here Matt if I had had rude pause to ask how just was you would have chimed in and said how about me guys Yeah, you totally because I know you very well, not true. Not true. Why off the mark? Well, Matt a little bit offended
Starting point is 00:03:18 Just gonna stop you there and ask how you are Jess. I'm really well. Yes. Hey, what about? Ask how you are Jess. I'm really well. Yes. Hey, what about? See what is over your thoughts as if I would have done that. I'm very curious to find out if Jess is alright. She doesn't talk to me anymore I'm gonna hold you up right there. Anyway, Dave. What I was saying was please to go on. Yeah, just as she doesn't, you know, she used to really open up and tell me about, you know, Jess. She doesn't do that anymore. She doesn't... I don't know, like... It's all persona now. Yeah, it is. It's like she's become a caricature of herself. And I just want to... Yeah, shouting her many catchphrases such as That cracked that peach there was some crap on top there
Starting point is 00:04:26 You know if you panic What a funny way to panic. Dave keeps having to adjust his head for it. Like, Jess is in a really critical situation. She's like, quick Jess, I need you to hand me that blood. I need that blood to... Save Matt's life. Who lives? She just throws it against the brick wall and it splatters. I need to be I need that blood to save Matt's life Did it throws it against the brick wall and it splatters the panic quick chest of the car is on fire
Starting point is 00:04:55 Drafts it off a cliff What a weird panic How does it go again because if you do a catch catch phrase, you need to be able to repeat it. I got it. It's one of the key. Yeah, that's part of how it becomes a catch phrase. Yeah. Not just a phrase, but a catch. That's one of the catch's of the phrase. You know how people have said like, just as laugh is nice to listen to because it makes
Starting point is 00:05:18 you laugh, that was just obnoxious. Yeah, there's us three minutes of laughter. Sorry. I was worse than a two and a half men episode. Okay, I'm all right. I've all put that to the left, man. Yeah, no, man, I'm burning all the big guns. Who are you taking down there, Ashton Kutcher?
Starting point is 00:05:34 Cop that, Ashton. Charlie Sheen. Oh, I'll take them both at once. I can't tell. Yeah, I'd take down Charlie Sheen. Ashton Kutcher, he's all right. He's all right. Punked wasn't great, but he's made some other solid choices. Dude, where's my car?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Great film. I haven't seen it, but as soon as it's good, what else is it done? The Steve Jobs biopic. One of the Steve Jobs biopic. One of the Steve Jobs biopic. Was that one just called Jobs? Or Steve? No, there's one that's coming out.
Starting point is 00:06:01 It's called Steve Jobs. Just a really, are there three or two? I don't know. Anyway. The other one's more passionate. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of. Yeah. And the other one, I believe is just called Steve Jobs.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Steve Jobs. A life and it's just like a documentary with Steve Jobs. And Steve Jobs. Yes. I've heard that one's really good. Was that what you're talking about? What were we talking about? Oh, okay, so we know myself with a question.
Starting point is 00:06:26 So, well, I'll just say, Matt, it's your turn to do a report on a topic. We start with a question, please. Yeah, and like I said last week, I was going to I put all the listener suggestions into a hat. That's right, and we've still had more come on in, so if you would like to suggest future episodes, please do get in touch. But Matt, well what they've read out some fresh ones just before we start recording they're
Starting point is 00:06:49 good can't wait to put them in the hat. But this is the first one that you're. That was so this is actually going to be this is going to be the first one from the hat from the hat. Yeah so I am So I thought, you never know what you're going to get out of the hat. I mean, you do because you've put them in the hat for like, you know what you're options at. Yeah, you know, I'm sure. It's not like these ones aren't, it's been different from the other ones I've chosen
Starting point is 00:07:19 because I've gone, I've looked at a topic, thought it was a good idea, looked into it me like, I don't know if I can get enough out of this. Oh, so you had to go to the hat several times. No, no, I went to the hat just the once. But, you know, maybe it's just an interesting thing, it's out of your hands, it's in the hat's hands. The hands of the hat. All right, anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:40 So the question, what does Dave have a biggest one of? I've got a very small one and just doesn't have it all I have a bigish one you got a bigish one. I've got a smaller one and just doesn't have one at all I don't think I've never seen Wow did you realize how open this question is yeah good good because you're the way you're playing it is very under the table like what do you mean you could take this that way oh hang on what do you mean what way painless oh hang on yeah it's about pain oh all right um this is like a riddle and I'm not good at riddles.
Starting point is 00:08:26 It's not a riddle, it's very. It feels like a riddle. It's not penis, that's it. No, it's not penis. And if you did the report on a, I mean, history of penises. History of penises. Well, you know, our listeners may have suggested that.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Exactly, the hat chose penises. I really hope we get a tweet suggesting penises now. We definitely will never be asked. Hashtag, hot for tart hashtag. Penis. Penis suggestion. No, that's no way less catchy. pain is is now we definitely will not be a part of the top hashtag penis penis suggestion No, that's not wireless catchy. Give it you know how to make it hashtag catchy. Yes hashtag
Starting point is 00:08:53 King for pain. King for pain very good. Very. Geez. That was good. You're like you're like the hashtag Yeah, I'm glad that's really good hashtag hashtag. It's not pain Yeah, that's really good. Hashtag hashtag girl. It's not pain. Hashtag hashtag girl. Wow. Well, it's really filling up. There's not much left for the actual message.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Yeah, there's three hashtags. Hashtag's a bit. Yeah. So it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it big Yes, it's a face. Maybe yours isn't as big as I mean, it's all relative I think you've probably got a mid-sized one. Oh, we which one of us is gonna be most defended by the answer here No one will be offended. Oh, really? Okay. Good. Oh Someone just I've had a guess and I fucked it you have a go and fuck it so I mean
Starting point is 00:09:40 It's possible that I didn't don't realize just has one It's possible that I didn't don't realize just has one Now I'm so confused Birthmark belly button, so it's close to a birthmark But you're you've kind of put it on yourself tattoos. Yes. Oh tattoos. Oh, I don't have one no and we can see days dangling out his sleeve So I've got a I've got the one is on my left bicep. Do you want to explain, Matt, do you want to explain to the listeners why we're laughing at that? Yeah, I guess so. Before the show started, what did you tell us? Well, doing this report, I wrote, one of the last
Starting point is 00:10:21 lines I wrote was about people having tattoos on their biceps. And I spelt it with a teed by a seps. And the little squiggly red line came up underneath and I was like, there's an arrow here. Come on, my friend. And I was crashing here. I don't think it's on me. What's the deal?
Starting point is 00:10:42 So Google, I'm like, do American spell, bicep, differently. But apparently, yeah, bicep is, there's no tea in bicep. No, there is. And it's also a silent tea, as well. I don't think you pronounce it either. This is bicep, but bicep.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Bicep. Sounds so wrong. No, it doesn't. Quite a few years have been talking the English language quite a few That is a little embarrassing. Well, there's a bit embarrassing. I would argue back to your tattoos I would argue that yours is bigger than Dave's also I just explain mine So I'm my left arm. I have his is more complete Finish on my bicep. I have a complete it's a zebra but instead of stripes
Starting point is 00:11:24 It has a keyboard in the middle and his name is George And he's got a very cute face. I've never asked you about it. Is that is that self-designed? No, it is not a self-designed. It's actually some artwork from the band the postal service Oh That's the guy from yeah Ben Gibb with the singer from death care for cuties That's a care for cutie And um I was looking into them fairly recently. They've got one album The guy from... Yeah, Ben Gibb with the singer from Deathcap Focuties. Deathcap Focuties. He's a bit cute. And um...
Starting point is 00:11:46 I was looking into them fairly recently. They've got one album. Yes, called Give Up. And they did give up. And a big sum was called from Great Hearts or something like that. Such great hearts as that. And they used that. They must have made good money because it's in a lot of commercials, that jingle.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And there's a lot of covers of it as well. So I've got... But it's slightly different. I sort of adjusted. But that's what I got the idea to have a keyboard on a zebra. And it made me laugh, and it's seven years later, I got it just after I turned 18. It still makes me laugh. I got tattooed by a, I mean, it's a keyboard zebra. It's hilarious. I got a tattooed by a very hairy like biker looking dude. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And then he, I don't know if he, when you get a tattoo, if you go through this, they have to shape the skin, even though I don't seem to have much hair there. And as he was shaving it, I said, I've never been shaved by a man before. What a weird thing to say. I was nervous making conversation. 18, it's already funny.
Starting point is 00:12:38 He was very weirded out by that statement. All right. And he was like, oh, and I'm like, I've never been shaved by a woman either. Yeah, that's a, I would have thought. I've never been shaved by a person before. Or I've never had my bicep shaved before. And he would have corrected me with the King's English.
Starting point is 00:12:56 How about you, Matt, your tattoo? So yeah, mine's probably, reckon around 10 years old, I started it. And it's just, it's basically some flames on my leg but And it's led to so many funny interactions with people in the summertime. I bet watch out mate legs on fire Oh, wow that happens a lot but anyway, it's um, you know I was asking for that really. Yeah, but why why did you get in?
Starting point is 00:13:23 What was the motivation behind it? This would be a fucking big dog on campus. Nailed it! No, I hardly remember. Apparently, there's quite a reasonable percentage of people have tattoo regret. I have no regret. I mean, it's not. I... Happy to be that guy on the beach that people tell you is on fire all the time, happy for that? Yeah, it doesn't. I mean, it's very rare that I'm wearing shorts anyway. But it's, uh, yeah, I... But is that the reason you don't wear shorts so people don't say, mate, your legs are on fire?
Starting point is 00:13:55 It's not something I really think about all that much, Dave. And now that I am, you're sort of opening up an old wound. Yeah, I'm sorry. What a tattoo is. It is an open wound when it gets done, you know that? No, please tell us all about tattoos. I wonder though, because I'm planning on getting one. So this is exciting because this is like, this episode will be pre-gest having a tattoo.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And then there will be a point in time when all three of us have a tattoo. So that's exciting. But I wonder if this is going to get me. Now I'm going to get my remove just to the best with that. I still, and I still only claim half a tattoo because it is incomplete. I once got a bonus for work when I used to work in a sales job selling air conditioning. And I made a, I made a, I made a target in my boss set.
Starting point is 00:14:43 What do you want it for a bonus? I'm like be great to finish this fucking tattoo So he gave me some money cash money to finish it and that just got spent on groceries or something something fun Couple bags of oats Some milk Did you have to come to work the next week and then be like? Well didn't finish it. Yeah, it's a milk. But did you have to come to work the next week and then be like, no, well, we didn't finish it. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I was wearing pants.
Starting point is 00:15:11 He never know. He would never know. I suppose he would know that shit to my grave. But are you still wanting to get it finished? Luckily, he doesn't listen to this. Oh yeah, I am planning on getting it finished. And I talk about all the time. Actually, it was booked in about six months ago.
Starting point is 00:15:23 So I had to cancel. So what is the finished design? It's going to just more colour and some more. So there's an outline that hasn't been filled in one layer of flame. Anyway, this is so tedious. No, it's, I mean, for me, answering your questions. No, I mean, I'm thinking for the listener. Can I just ask you a question, mate?
Starting point is 00:15:45 Did you know your legs are fired? Yes! No, that is not on! That is not on. But please tell us about tattoos. I'm very interested to hear. We'll see by the end if I actually will get it done. Just might be put off.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Yeah, I mean, it's funny because I never really thought about, because I'm aware that, you know, skins are always breaking down. You're losing loads of skin all the time and it's always regrowing. So I never really thought about why do tattoos remain if your skin is always, why doesn't the color leave? And that's because what a tattoo is, is you're sort of puncturing through the epidermis, the outer layer of skin.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And put, push in the color into the dermis, which is the, the middle layer, the deeper layer and that's like a much more stable, the cells in the dermis are way more stable so that if you've injected color into that it's going to remain there pretty much forever. Does that put you on? It's fine because it doesn't, I mean you don't need to know that I didn't know that when I was getting done It just feels like I think the less you like it. Yeah, I reckon that with most medical things Any sort of operations and stuff. I'm always like don't need to know as you know what you're doing I don't give a fuck if I know what I'm doing. I like to know. I like to know there are a lot of people do need to know
Starting point is 00:17:02 But I have you said that you'd research and stuff like that whole episode of our death I didn't know need to know what you didn't need to know as well. But having said that, you'd research and stuff like that whole episode about death. I didn't know, I didn't know what. You didn't need to know about having a Mayas after I died. But I didn't know about the dermis fax that you just brought up. I actually don't really know how it works. Yeah. Yeah, well that's basically that's what it is. It's cutting through the skin.
Starting point is 00:17:24 And these days it's within, I mean, it's always been some sort of a needle, but now it's with a little machine or a tattoo gun. And it's just gone, like, it can be thousands a minute. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. That, every time I said, duh, that's like the needle going in the skin. And then there's a tube sort of just pushing
Starting point is 00:17:42 inkin to there as well. Wow. Into there, into the wound. And then obviously you want it to heal over. There's during the healing process, so as things can go wrong, you can get a blurring stuff if you let it. You don't want to go into a bath apparently, or a hot spa or swimming till it's healed over.
Starting point is 00:17:59 You don't want it to get direct sunlight. Yeah, they tell you to stay out of the sun, don't they? Yeah. So sometimes you see people with blurry tattoos, that can happen apparently from letting the water soak in and stuff, because it's still affecting, like if the wound's still open, then that ink can still be messed with.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Apparently, I haven't looked in at all that stuff too much. Mainly for your own sanity. Yeah. The tattoo machine was invented by a guy, American guy called Samuel O'Reilly in the late 1800s. He'd modified an invention by Thomas Edison, who had invented an electric pen. And he modified that to make the tattoo machine.
Starting point is 00:18:40 He just made it more stabby. Yeah. Rather than manually. So it used to be. And a lot of cultures they still do it manually where you'll be. You know, puncturing the skin and adding the color then puncturing the skin like a much slower.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And they're like tapping things instead of just, yeah, that way more hardcore. Because I was interested to find out that tattooing has such a long history and also super wide spread It's got a it's like a quite a tribal thing. Yeah, it's like, truly it'd be really interesting. Yeah, I'm imagining that Back at ancient Maori culture, they're not getting like a Chinese phrase tattooed. Yeah, that's it They're definitely not getting a keyboard. Yeah, Western culture is the one that sort of bastardizes the traditional tattoos a bit. It doesn't seem to be that as common in the...
Starting point is 00:19:31 Yeah, and they would have been funny to see, like, find a mummified Egyptian with some sort of a misquoted... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,bed wire on to me. Yeah. Oh, so good. Pamela Randerson style. That was huge for the little while in the 90s. Barbed wire and the bicep. Oh, wow, the tea. The tea. I don't know how you heard a tea all these years. Yeah, it does feel silly now. So, yeah, the Tato machine that was invented, it's like it's made it so much easier.
Starting point is 00:20:03 So, it's handheld. It's just a tube and needle and it's just bang, bang, bang. And they so the, they use a foot switch like a, like a sewing machine. So when you're pushing down, it's, it's the people are still working. Still works. Yeah. I didn't remember notes.
Starting point is 00:20:18 So they're using the foot to control. Oh, maybe it isn't. Maybe I reckon when I got it done, they had a foot pedal. They probably had to wind it up for you, Grandpa. Yeah, come on, man. I think it's the generator. Yeah, otherwise, I guess, on the gun, it would have a button. It's got it. Is that what you think? It's just a button. Yeah, yeah. I think they're controlling it with a hand, right? That makes much more sense than your foot. Well, at the same time, possibly. Look, yeah, that's interesting. I'm sure. What was the what was the tweet keen for hashtag keen for pain? Let us know
Starting point is 00:20:50 We'll look it up. You're a tattoo artist And yeah, the the needle drive it depends and it's got a little bit to do with the tattoo artist themselves How far in the needle goes, but it should be something like one sixteenth of an inch in your skin. If you go if you go too shallow it'll end up like a weird blurry thing because it's not deep enough and if you go too deep it can really fucking hurt. So one sixteenth of an inch. Yeah so an inch is like two and a half centimeters. So what's one sixteenth of that day? Oh, luckily we got the math man. 0.15 centimeters. 0.15.
Starting point is 00:21:28 0.15. Wait, 0.15. OK, so it's like, is that 1.5 millimeters? Yes. That's not that deep. Yeah, I was thinking to be, but I guess it can't be that much deeper. Skin. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah, right. That's interesting. I'm really dumb You know, that's what I find out on this podcast and and it's nice to to Be find that out as everyone else is I mean it doesn't sound that much But I mean, I mean if someone came up and said hey, I want to stab you with this needle Don't worry. It's only 1.5 millimeters. You still be like nah Yeah, I guess if you guys like they okay, I'm perfectly happy giving blood though, and that goes in a lot further.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Yeah, that's going in a vein or something. Yeah, but that's not staring just skin. True. Yeah, it's good. And thousands of times. Okay, well, point of edge. I remember, because mine's on my ankle, so around some of it was right onto bone, with the skin bone.
Starting point is 00:22:23 The bone bit felt, I've heard some people saying it hurts more And some people said hurts. That's for me it felt that felt like a weird massage or something Like good hurt. Yeah, like it was just like vibrating it You could feel the vibrating on the bone But through some of the other parts it felt like a scalpel was being Slossing through my skin because it was in a lot like the flames in lines the outlines felt like it was just a scalpel Possibly the reason you haven't been back in ten years now I and you hear about this a lot that it's addictive
Starting point is 00:22:52 Tatoo getting tattoos and I was worried about it at the time. I'm like oh man What if I love this and I kind of ended up the more like it first was like oh this this hurts Why am I doing this? And then by the end I was quite enjoying it somehow. Did you find a painting? Did you find a painting? Did you find a painting on the bicep. On the bicep on my arm.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I got it all done in one session, which I'm happy back, because I wouldn't want it to have gone back. Because it did hurt quite a lot. I'm not very good with paint, but painful for me, it's a zebra sword, obviously has hooves. And the bottom, that's where it really hurt down theawd obviously has hooves and the bottom that's
Starting point is 00:23:25 what really hurt down the bottom of my bicep. Oh that's funny. Yeah but I don't know why but that really really hurts. Because you hear of all sorts of places like ribs are apparently very painful. One of my friends got a tattoo on her ribs and was like have you started? Yeah and he thought she was a freak because of pain threshold. I want to get one on my wrist and I've heard that couldn't really hurt as well. Yeah right because it Because it's kind of skinny part of your bones and... Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, that has got very slim wrists.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Such a dainty, dainty wrist. Should we remember it for her? Loud love and dainty wrists. I've got a combo. A series that the further away from your head, the less it hurts. Because your brain, I reckon the brain is where you know what's going on in your brain. The closer to your head, the more full on it is. I'm on my lower leg.
Starting point is 00:24:14 So I was like, I was like, so far away, it's like, okay, this is. But I reckon Dave's is up, getting pretty close. You can't just pretend that's not happening. What about your feet? That would really hurt. Bottom of the foot, apparently a lot of tattoo artists will do that for free if you can if you can deal with it. Apparently it kills. I got a mate who was bored at uni one day. So he went to the tattoo shop and he's like, he looked, he Googled what the fastest fading areas of your body for tattoos were and the
Starting point is 00:24:46 souls of your feet was one so we went in and got left and right tattooed on the souls of his feet just for something to do quite a what did it last to do actually? and it still left I think that's so funny yeah what a weird thing to say it's fast to kill time I would have got a massage or studied, studied, got some lunch. I would have got a massage or Studied I've got a lot. I've got food in through how I kill time approved your life in some way
Starting point is 00:25:09 Yeah, that's correct. I mean, you know, it gave me a story I'm pretty my life gave us all a story. I like to think that it's like yeah that That would fade faster than others, but it still will take two hundred years or three times the average lifetime to break down Where is your arm will take five average lifetime. Yeah. It feels stuck with the floor. Forever mate.
Starting point is 00:25:29 What about like when people get tattoos inside there? Inside the lip. What do you feel like that? Oh. It's a funny spot to get something done as well. It's like check this. You know, you have to. Because you never see that.
Starting point is 00:25:42 You have to very deliberately show somebody. I hear it. What are you up to. Yeah, I'm just casually, just casually hanging out here. No big deal. But I mean, that's assuming that you get a tattoo for other people to see true. I mean, why do you get? Well, other one, okay, it's just a something for you to see in the mirror tattoo removal. This is something just you might be curious about it before you get one. Knowing that there is an out. It's not a hundred percent kind of thing. It depends on a lot of factors like the colors that are used in the types of ink.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Okay. Do you have the colors there that are easier to remove? I think black is easier. Oh, my mind is all black because I've got very pale skin, so the white part of the zipper is my normal skin color. So you're telling me that if I want to get rid of this, it's not as hard as if I... Yeah, yours will be a better chance.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Well, I think of harder colors, colors like yellows. I feel like big, bold lines too, I reckon that would be hard. You'd have to go. Oh, come on, Jess, I just felt good about myself. No, I've got to bring you down. Arach and that take several very painful sessions, upwards of 10 painful sessions, Arach. I'm more into the idea of covering them up anyway. You could turn that into
Starting point is 00:26:55 anything. Imagine the possibility. Just a black rectangle. A big black rectangle or a black symbol. A big oval. Yeah, my own black. You can just symbolizing my love of the favorite shape of mine, which is oval. You could also just do your entire bicep black. Yeah, that is a good option. Like footballers may wear a black arm, but you could just do the whole bicep black. And I can extend it down to elbow joint too, and just run it to shoulder, black. Just to throw people off the scent that I ever had a Zebra there. Yeah, you don't want them to know. You just yeah just it will black arm. Oh
Starting point is 00:27:32 Black arm, Warnocky. Hey Dave's arm is Gone bad. Yeah, well look like I feel like if it was all black it would look like that I'd lost Blood flow and then I was gonna have it removed any day. Have you seen the the bass player from Rage get changed? He's got some full on solid black tattoos. So his tattoo the pattern is made by the part that isn't tattooed so he's shoulders and arms are all black except for little stripes and swirls and stuff. Oh wow. So where it's not tattooed is actually the pattern rather than the... Oh my goodness. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Yeah, he's good. That's it, full on. That's upwards of 10 sessions of removal. Well... Oh, oh, I see, that's full on. Yeah. I sounded like such a mum then. Oh, yes, I was.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Oh, I see. Oh, I see. We will tweet out a photo of... I think his name's Tim. It doesn't look like a Tim. Let's go with Tim should be accountants Timothy we know how you feel about accountants so tattoo removal It's yeah, it's probably hard to ever make it look like there was nothing there before you're gonna see some sort of Also, it's not completely it's unlikely to be completely erased. Oh, really? And
Starting point is 00:28:45 if you went long enough, you could get, oh, early on, you can make a big progress, but then it gets harder to get the last little bits. Because you're physically trying to, what you're doing is you're breaking down, I'm talking about laser removal here, which is the most common one. I didn't know there were multiple types. Oh yeah, you stuff to get them surgically removed. Ew, what? Take this, take, like, I guess. Cut it out. I guess so. No.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Look, I didn't, I chose not to look too much in it. You can also use cream that fades it. Oh, I guess. It doesn't work very well. Let me see. Or acid. Acid works, just cut your arm off. Yeah, if you want to go really hardcore,
Starting point is 00:29:22 but these are old school. Like if you're leaving the gang in the back room type method. A friend at work is currently getting laser. Can I have a guess at how it works because she did kind of explain it but I very really listen. Yeah, look you probably know about more than I do. So it's something to do with like it breaks down the the ink. Yeah, but it puts it into your bloodstream. Yeah and then your body. Your body can break it down really quickly. How does it move it to the bloodstream amazing? That's how I understand it but I don't know the science behind it. So yeah you're just they're going in the lasers of breaking
Starting point is 00:29:58 the breaking down the pigments and then your body flushes it out. You get for a little while you get very colorful stools. You start shitting out the... I feel like that's made up. That's made up. I don't think your blood flows to your anus and then you shit out the hink. Or maybe yours doesn't. Well, what do I have that you two don't have?
Starting point is 00:30:20 An anus that shits ink. But yeah, so it takes... I don't know, I've never noticed if Jess has one. and an anus that shits ink. But yeah, so it takes a crown, it takes a- I don't know, I've never noticed if Jess has one. Yeah, she can be- I've been paying quite a lot of it, and Dave's shown me here. Yeah, mine's quite large, bigger than yours, and Jess, well, she hasn't shown it,
Starting point is 00:30:35 so she could be hiding once on my, but I don't know, hashtag Jess's anus. No, let's not make that one as a thing. Let's keep him to came for pain, okay? We came for pain, we came for pain. We came for pain, we came for pain, we came for pain, we came for pain, we came for pain, we came for pain, We came's keep him to came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain.
Starting point is 00:30:48 He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain.
Starting point is 00:30:56 He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain.
Starting point is 00:31:04 He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. He came for pain. It's crazy to me that who cares enough? Like if you wanted to get something, it seems, I just can't imagine a situation where you go, I've totally done a 180 on this. All right, I will. In the, yes, that's right, partner, or I will tweet this out, one of those lists of blogs where it's like a world's worst tattoo ideas, and it's like 31s,
Starting point is 00:31:21 where people have tattooed like a skull over their face. Yeah, or like a Nazi over their face. Yeah. Or like a Nazi symbol or something and then you've realized that, hey, I'm not an idiot. Oh, I Googled Nazis. Turns out they weren't very nice. I totally get that. But, I mean, who's making those decisions? I'm talking about, if you like, that's not what the majority of them are.
Starting point is 00:31:40 They're not Nazi symbols on people's faces. No, no. Shrostic as I think they're called Dave. But yeah. Hey. I don't want to give them anymore coverage than they already have. No. So I was reading, I read a few different lists and I've read a few quite funny sort of directed to teenager descriptions of tattoos. I like talking about the educational but now trying to fairly balanced and they some of them gave They said stuff like people have people have been tattooed for many reasons Oh, do they have a gather bit of a list and I've got I wrote four of these down or five But it'd be interesting to see if you guys it's Matt's top five reasons to get a tattoo
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yeah, here we go the top five and number five are we going from five down or five but it'd be interesting to see if you guys. It's Matt's Top 5 Reasons to get a tattoo. Here we go the Top 5 in number five. Are we going from five to one? Sure, this is not arbitrary at all. Number five. Can we take turns announcing it? The numbers? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Thank you. Okay so you can go first, can you say a second? No, no, he said number five, you can't tell. To provide protection against illness and bad luck. So there's, but they used to be beliefs, probably so, and some cultures where that tattoo will protect you from illness, you know, if you get the right tattoos. Oh, what? Is it like a safe guard?
Starting point is 00:32:55 It's a specific about what ones ward off evil and illness. It is, but I am, I didn't get too deep into that stuff, which is... But did you read anywhere about a zebra with a keyboard instead of its pattern? Would that say, keep me? Yeah. I've got the book here and it says, that is inviting bad time.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Oh, shit. That's what I'm saying. It means you're going to toil in the entertainment industry without ever reaching great heights. I'm so sorry, Dave. I'm so sorry. I'm running that the personal service have that such great, high-song. Oh, so sorry Dave, I'm so sorry. I'm running that the person service have that such great height song.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Oh man. Alright. Number four. To represent a member's rank or standing in a community? Well, you're talking about my tattoo again. Yeah. Janitor. A boom. Number three. To declare love. Oh. So you might, you know, that classic one is a love heart with mother
Starting point is 00:33:49 written on it. That's so good. Or, you know, you might have a partner's name, and they're like you're saying. They're often the ones that are regretted. I think I didn't think about that, but that would be something that changed. That made a big one. Yeah, absolutely. It was, I had a fun fact about that, which is a pretty famous one. Maybe I maybe that's just little sizzle. Angelie Jolly. No, what was it? Oh
Starting point is 00:34:10 Right, and they used to wear vials of each other's blood around the neck That's a beautiful love What are we up to? Number two to punish or mark ownership? So similar to partner's name Two! To punish or mark ownership. So, um... So similar to partner's name. Oh, boo! What do you under the thumb or something?
Starting point is 00:34:30 The white chips are! Yeah! Have you seen that one times, though? Your tattoo says, I have to take single forever. I have to take keen for pain, though. Oh, you're inviting the wrong kind of, wrong kind of tweets, but enjoy. Alright. Hey, you get the notifications as well.
Starting point is 00:34:50 You'll be seeing those dick pics as well. I do go on pod. Number one! And number one, yeah, is, and it's probably by far the most common reason out, it's for fashion or decoration, which is I imagine what you got yours for. Decoration. Yeah, I guess so yeah, it's just to decorate my skin. Mine is to mark my ranking in the community.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Flamers. Flamers. He's a Flamers. He's a Flamers. Oh mate, you want all those Flamers I've been hearing so much about. Yes. Read the bloody tattoo mate. Read and wake. Are you working way too hard for way too little? There's never been a better time to consider a career in IT. You could enjoy a
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Starting point is 00:35:58 Now is the time mycomputercareer.edu. Do you guys know where the word tattoo originated? Oh, I do not. Tattoo. I like to think of it as like the military tattoo. Yeah, that... Well, my thought before you, if that's factual, it's just tattooing from Star Wars,
Starting point is 00:36:19 which is a long time ago on a Galaxy Fuffer away. I'm not. So sorry, yeah, just put up with that, Jess. Surely, you've seen Star Wars that I met, right? Yeah, Dave. Good, now's not the time. Oh, come on, Star Wars is fucking great. We do a lot of eye humor over here.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Anyway, so, the military tattoo. That's pretty good. Let's lock that one in rather than tattooing. That is actually, let's go to separate origin. The military drumbeat, the military tattoo. Yeah, that would just entangue in Melbourne town. My parents went to say, in the North. Well, the Edinburgh tattoo, yes.
Starting point is 00:37:00 The Edinburgh military tattoo. Where are they from? Military. Edinburgh? Yeah, they're from Edinburgh, that's true. the Edinburgh military tattoo. Where are they from? So. Milletry? Edinburgh? Yeah, different Edinburgh, that's true. It's in the name. So that tattoo has a totally different etymology origin. But it's the same spelling.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Exactly, the same spelling, but it comes from a totally different spot. That's a, it comes from the Dutch word tepto. Which is like a pig. I think you just put another pee in there. Tap toe. Whereas the body art word tattoo comes from, it's sort of come from Polynesia. Britannica was saying that there's a few different,
Starting point is 00:37:43 like, it seems to be a lot of different origins or suggested origins of the word, but the Britannica says that the word tattoo itself was introduced into English and other European languages from Tahiti where it was first recorded by James Cook's expedition in 1769. Aha! It's like a Tahitian word. Yeah, and it's often thought, as usually said, to be of been brought back by James Cook, Captain Cook to England, but what the initial word was is disputed a little bit. Somewhere I saw that it comes from the Polynesian word tatow, tatow, meaning
Starting point is 00:38:28 correct or workman-like. Okay. And then there's another website that it comes from two words, tat, meaning striking something, and the tataheshen word word to Tah which means to mark something. So it's like different words like say... It makes it strike and mark, strike and mark. And then there's, I've seen other places mention that it's, what's the word for a sounding like it? Is it on a matter of peak when it sounds like it? That's just like tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, So we can start going through some of the history. Obviously, it's just so epic that I feel like I have not done the whole thing just. There's so many different cultures you could go into and do a whole episode on, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:36 Polynesian tattoos or Japanese tattoos and stuff like that. But I haven't gone super into any of them, but I'll give you a bit of an overview of different things. What's it we like here at Duke Ione? Like an overview. Yeah. One theory, one common theory about how tattoos come about was that thousands and thousands of years ago, we know that at least they were happening at least 5,000 years ago, but that's that long.
Starting point is 00:39:59 That's the thought that they were happening 10,000 years ago, plus. Wow. Being the first one Yeah, well the idea is that Probably the way it happened was someone got wounded You know, back in the olden days when Everyone was just getting wounded day to day Yeah, just livin
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah, and then And then by the fire Or something, some sort got into the wound and then it healed up. And then they noticed that that black mark remained. And they're like, ah, okay. I would have known the way that looks. That would not be my reaction if it wound healed and it went black.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I'd be like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, this isn't good. I would, yeah, that theory came up a few times like that. I mean it makes sense. What is going, you know what we could do. Yeah. I could think it would only happen accidentally first, right? Yeah. But then the fact that all these cultures that didn't have any interaction all came to the same thing. Pretty amazing. Yeah, true. I mean probably different techniques. You're getting there, but they've all a lot of these cultures. And how did they figure out, well, we can draw in ourselves, but it never stays. Maybe we just need to go deeper.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Go deeper. Yeah, they said, how did they go deep? And what they said was, well, I've just drawn on my epi-dermist, but what I need, some of the ghosts, through to my dermis. Yeah. Am I right, ladies? Am I right?ermus, but what I need. Some of the ghosts threw to my dermis. Yeah. Am I right, ladies? Am I right?
Starting point is 00:41:26 Tip tap, let's do this. Tip tap. You're apidermis is showing Simpson's reference. Very good. Thank you. See, apidermis take the means. Hair. So it's funny and true.
Starting point is 00:41:42 What a guy. Until relatively recently, the ancient Egyptian mummies, which we'd talked about last week. Oh, we're still cursed from that. Maybe we're yep good. No, no, I think the hashtag hopfordtut. You broke the curse. You broke the curse. Because we've got an even amount of times.
Starting point is 00:41:59 If you keep tweeting it and it comes an odd number of hot for tuts on Twitter and we will be of course damn for all eternity. He's a little smug face. A little wobble of the head when he does. That's how petty tud is. Anyway, do go on. We could over use that hashtag. What? We may have, do you think we've reached a saturation point? May have hashtag done at stash? Yeah, I think I'm going to leave the hashtag suggests because she has the Queen of the Tag. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Hashtag tag queen. No, I did it again. It's a bad habit to get into. Yeah, it's fun though. It's fun to have. But anyway, Egyptians and mummies. So yeah, that for quite a while, they were the earliest physical proof that, proof that human skin had been
Starting point is 00:42:53 tattooed. Because their bodies last longer than most of the kids. Yeah, so that, but, and those mummies were from around 2000 BCE. So, you know, 4,000 years-ish old. But in 1991, the preserved remains of what has become known as the Ice Man were found in the Italian Alps. You know about this guy? Ice Man. It sounds like a pretty sick superhero. Yeah. He is. Or. Very crook. Or a not very nice drug dealer. An Ice man. Oh, yes, and we don't support this. Well, there's nothing on this program. Nothing about him says that he's not nice.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Maybe. But ice is not a nice drug. The nice man. Oh, oh. It's a sullen end. It's OK. OK. Invisible end.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I'm back on. I've had a little bit about the ice man, but tell us. So the founder, the Alps. So, the fan of the Alps. He was found in the Italian Alps by a couple of people. I forget what kind of people I was, so he went with people. Walkers, probably. Explorers, it's always joggers.
Starting point is 00:43:55 It's always joggers to find dead bodies. In the Italian Alps, I was just jogging through the Italian Alps and fans was going, preserving ice. Yeah, mama mia. Oh, that was, did you find that offensive? I just feel like oh mama Mia. Yeah, I didn't quite hit the, you know I've got Italian heritage and I thought it's okay. Say the, do it in the offensive accent. Okay, that's what I didn't want to do.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I didn't want to do. So it's estimated that this guy lived around 3300 BCA, so about 5300 years ago. And they found the body and he was tattooed. And his body was covered in tats, about somewhere around 60 of them, 50 or 60. And the ice had preserved it. And yeah, the ice preserved him. So it sort of mummified him. Wow. Yeah, he's a, he's a, I would say he's a funny looking guy. Like I don't think he, it perfectly preserved him. I don't think he'd be super happy with how he looks, but he, you know, you can still see his skin. You can make him out as a man.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Can it, like, you're gonna say, you can make him into like a leather jacket or something and that's probably true as well. His skin's you know it's been leather fight. So what happens is what leathering is? It looks like it's made out of a leather couch. Maybe you just tend to watch. It just looks like he's got leather. The couch part. There's no nothing on him makes him look like he was made out of a couch. I don't know why I said that. There's no cushions or puffs. There's no cushions, no poofs, no refining things. No fold out legs. You got fold out legs. Sleep on him when you're in loss.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Well, you're definitely good, but I wouldn't recommend it. But he had 50 to 6. That's a lot of these tattoos were mainly positioned, I stuck with it anyway, positioned around the lower back in his joints, so the place is where it was thought that he was suffering from joint and spinal. Oh, that does not sound like a good way to get rid of pain, it's by stabbing and needle. Yeah, and primitively into the joint. Exactly what it is. Some people are saying that it might be like acupuncture, the the the action of injecting him is alleviating the pain and then other people suggested maybe they were marking the spot so people could provide some other sort of relief in those spots. At a point it gets you've got 60 pain spots, there's most of the
Starting point is 00:46:41 body, certainly. Yeah, that's what I just said. It's a real mess. Was it hurt? Everywhere. Yeah, and then yeah, you don't need the markings. You don't need and the extra pain of a tattoo. Yeah. The tattooed Egyptian mummy. So we go with that about a thousand years forward. The tattooed Egyptian mummies were exclusively women and one of the Theos was reading was suggesting that the tattoos We used to protect themselves during pregnancy and childbirth I'm marking the pain like amulets. They describe me. It was like amulets protecting their Yeah, yeah in in a 2000 BCE like now it's fucked and you've got
Starting point is 00:47:22 sterilized hospitals and Like now it's fucked and you've got sterilized hospitals and people who know what they're doing, drugs. But I wonder if they, like, okay, oh, I'm pregnant. Let's chuck a whole bunch of tattoos on there or if they did it early knowing that they were gonna have kids at some point, because you can't get tattoos while you're pregnant, can you? No, I can't.
Starting point is 00:47:40 They wouldn't have health and safety laws for that. Oh, I know, but like, I'm just saying. Yeah, no, that's interesting. Maybe they've got done as young ladies and then. They were probably eating heaps of soft cheese too, hey. They didn't care. Zero fucks, give it a, sorry, unborn baby. Soft cheeses, smoke and a pack of cigarettes a day.
Starting point is 00:47:59 So much wine, please. It's a wine and coffee. Never heard the soft cheese thing, what's that? Can't eat soft cheese. Because it ends arms, I think. It's a very small chance, but I believe there is something that can fuck EO feed us. S-E-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A bacteria bacteria? Oh, that's fun to say. It caused an infection called listeriosis to avoid this risk. A pregnant woman or advise not to eat any mold-ripened soft cheese, such as brie, camber, mold-ripened soft cheese made with goat's milk and others with
Starting point is 00:48:36 similar rind. That's from the NHS.uk. Oh, that all the good cheeses. I'm so sorry pregnant women out there. If you want to know what the tattoos were, they were mainly dotted patterns of lines and diamond patterns. Oh. Diamonds are a girl's best friend, so even 4,000 years ago, uh, that's- I'm going to get a diamond tattoo. That joke?
Starting point is 00:48:58 It wasn't a joke, it's just the truth. That's the tattoo I'm going to get. I'm going to get a big old diamond. My old. Because- Well diamonds are very old by then, apparently. Oh, that year. truth. That's the tattoo I'm going to get. I'm going to get a big old diamond. Why old? Because... Well diamonds are very old by then, apparently. Yeah, well so I mean there's kind of a totology then, wasn't it? Your totology. I'm not! Other tattooed mummies have been recovered from at least 49 archaeological sites,
Starting point is 00:49:23 including locations in Greenland, Alaska, Siberia, Mongolia, Western China, Sudan, the Philippines, and the Andes. Wow, that's nearly all continents. Yeah, tattoos have been over the shop for thousands of years. Interesting, right? Apparently, according to a Greek writer, Herodotusus around 450 BCE, he stated that among the Skysians and the Thrasians, Tatus were a Mark of an authority. That's three.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Three Christians. Tatus were a Mark of an ability and to not have one was testimony of low birth. Oh! It just, I mean it shows so many things are just made up. But I hear like tattoos, you know, it's scummy to get a tattoo or if you wear a hat inside it's rude. It's like, why? Just made up things and they change all the time. Sometimes it's like, you know, sometimes you're at the top of the Greek society, and then other times you're at the bottom of the Greek society where people think you're scumbag. The mummies have had a real rollercoaster over the last 5,000 years.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I'm on back on top! It's a mummies, time to shine! Accounts of ancient Britons also suggested that the tattoos were a mark of high status and they had shapes of beasts tattooed on their bodies. Well like that, beasts. Look at that beast tattoo. You got a beast tattoo. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:50:55 It is a beast. It is a beast of beast. Big time. It is a working animal. That makes sense. It is a beast of their bird. No, I think it is a beast. It is a beast.
Starting point is 00:51:03 It is a beast of their bird. No, I think it is a beast. It is a beast. I try to make them like a working like a horse and a donkey but they not very very good for beast of bourbon is a very good for zebras yeah I thought they're one of my favorite animals that is beautiful creatures yeah but I'm just I think it's interesting that you say like they're they're no good at work like real jobs well it's hard to domesticate them.
Starting point is 00:51:26 That's what I mean. I reckon that's perfect for you. I'm not a, yeah man I'm not a domestic work boss. You can't be, you can't be. I'm a beautiful creature that people like to look at. Don't fence me. But don't touch. It's right, never touch.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I'm gonna roam the plains of life. Mm-mm-mm. Shaking up with the lions. Yeah, getting eaten by lions. Sometimes outriding them. That's great. That's good. Good for you. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. Yeah. Do you go on? All right, mate. Hey, did you guys know? Oh, it's fine. It's a bit BTN. Wasn't it behind the news? Did you say that show on your young? BTN, yeah, big time. Did you get BTN?
Starting point is 00:52:05 Wednesdays where you used to go. I don't remember the group, but somebody told a joke about it recently. It was like a kid's ABC and you showing up. Hey, did you know that 50% of the world's power comes from coal? The adults trying to talk to kids, which is very different. Well, he's scary to tell you a little bit more about coal. Oh, how have they made coal so fun?
Starting point is 00:52:28 They haven't, that's how they never did it. Tattoos were relatively common in Europe in the olden days, back in the past. How old are we talking? Oh, we're talking. Because when's olden? We're talking like the Roman, Roman Empire. Great, also a long period of time, but no worries.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Yeah, yeah. Well, that was only what? Centuries. Thousands, over a thousand years. Yeah, okay. There's a bunch of centuries. I mean, that too, as well. You're boring me.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I'd love to get just a super cut of all Jess's Yorns on this podcast. Very good. What? Did you did out of you good special today for yawon special tell us about yawons no, please Matt. We really gotta get this up always tie it Oh, you think your tie because I work I do lots of things and I juggle it all together and I'm a true part. Wow Dave if you don't mind. I'm trying to talk about tattoos here If I get if I get get somehow talk over the yarn. It's not a turn, turn down the yarn to get it. Please, do go on.
Starting point is 00:53:33 So tattoos were relatively common in Europe. Romans tattooed their criminals. They had criminals there and they tattooed them and also their slaves. But what did they tattoo on the criminals? Did they write baddie? Yeah, they wrote, um... Not a good guy! A thug life?
Starting point is 00:53:50 Yeah, and I was sort of like, you know, like they drew a picture of them sort of talking behind their hands and saying, do not give this guy a job. Oh, okay, yeah. He is no good. He's not coming back to pay for that bread. Yeah, that sort of stuff. I like it. I wouldn't, I wouldn't know.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Yeah, it's like a bad, just have tripping fire reviews on their back one star Don't let this guy borrow your car Yeah, that's sort of stuff. So yeah, they um The Romans tell you their criminals and slaves obviously back in their day It's not a good thing to have because it says you're either owned by someone or that you are a criminal as often happens to have because it says you're either owned by someone or that you are a criminal. As often happens, when the bad guys of society do something, eventually it becomes cool.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And then the caught on with the Roman soldiers, they got right in order as well. Oh, okay. And then it spread right across the Roman Empire, which was a big chunk of Europe. So in Europe for a time, it was very popular back in the old days, but when Christianity popped up, you guys... I've heard of that. Yeah, no Christianity. The amelior of it.
Starting point is 00:54:55 So when Christianity came about, Tatoo's were seen to disfigure that made in God's image. So we're... Oh, right, right. So we're formed without the inquiry you need the trick. And that's the idea. So Christianity really killed off the tattoo trade. I also think that that doesn't make sense but by that logic you probably shouldn't have a haircut. No haircuts. Tone ale. You shouldn't grow at all. You should remain a baby. It's quite ironic too because especially for for a while there like crosses were very popular
Starting point is 00:55:26 tattoos. So you know Christianley's like nah ah so then we went okay we'll put a cross on my body. Yeah you know you know. Just saying man just saying. What do you think about that? David Boy. David Mould. I have absolutely zero comment. Wow. And they were banned by Emperor Constantine in 306 to 373 AD. That was Emperor Constantine's reign. Wow, so he never maloed, he never changed his mind. Couldn't talk him around. He was just a guy that believed in something and maybe you guys should try that sometime and see if you can stick to it. All right, I'll learn from the great emperor Constantine. I'll keep it in the back of him.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Do you know anything about him? I bet you know something about him. I imagine that Constanta Nople is named after him, which became... Istanbul, that's right. Istanbul, that's right. Istanbul, and Istanbul, and the Count. And Istanbul, and the Count. Why the Count? That's the work.
Starting point is 00:56:34 That is all about these business, but the Turks. Yeah, Turks. Text for Packs. Text for Packs, huh? Text for Turks. Why Turkish food? Turks for perks. Turks for perks. Oh, thanks for Turks. My Turkish fish. My Turkish food. And people. You know, case by case basis, I suppose, silly to generalize about a whole people. You go like everybody. I'm sure there's an asshole or two amongst them.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Hash tag. Asshole or two amongst them. Yeah, too long. I'll tweet in. Tweet in if you are what Turkish and an asshole. Yeah, if you tick both boxes Oh, this one. Do we have much of a Turkish wish than a ship? Yeah, I believe that she's oh Boy, I believe 80% I Downloads Wow what percentage of our downloads are assholes I'm about to download that. Wow! What percentage of our dear little giraffes? I'm afraid that that data has been withheld. Oh, I wish I hadn't made my house so full of stuff. In a weird mood. Okay. Yeah, this has been feeling weird. What a weird app.
Starting point is 00:57:39 It doesn't like a much, you know, It doesn't like much, you know, the... Muck, not, not, not this muck about, but it also doesn't like self-referencing ourselves too much. He just wants it to be about the facts. Um, so obviously tattoos have got a history across the whole world, and I have hardly gone into any specific cultures.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Just quickly, you want to know a couple. Japanese men began adorning their bodies with elaborate tattoos in 3rd century AD, late third century AD. So that's quite a long time but still a bit later than those other cultures we're talking about. The Japanese stuff is super influential around the world as well. Yeah they're really popular and a lot of the acclaimed artists are those sort of ancient, like what not ancient, but older Japanese masters that do that sort of dot style, or they don't use an electric needle with a sort of dipit needle at a time. Oh wow! And yeah, I think it's very expensive and they're very acclaimed. Yeah, I think they're awesome. But they're often featured in those
Starting point is 00:58:34 tattoo expos. We have, you know, the very famous Japanese tattooist, I don't know any names, because I'm not into that world, but you know amongst their people they are very famous. The tattoo people. That's right. So evidence for tattooing has been found amongst some ancient mummies found in China's Takla Macon, does it? Does he ever say does it? So I have real trouble with that word apparently because that was the second take at it.
Starting point is 00:59:02 He's still still so good. So just in short, they found some mummies in a Chinese desert. Yes. Or a big bowl of ice cream. And this was around 1200 BC during the later hand dynasty. And it, but it seems only criminals were tattooed there. That's all. All right.
Starting point is 00:59:22 The elaborate tattoos of the Polynesian cultures, a thought to have developed over millennia. So they go back millennia. And they feature highly elaborate geometric designs, which in many cases cover the whole body. But imagine like being part of that sort of culture and you go home to your mum with a big old tattoo and she wouldn't even be mad. Like if I go home with a big tattoo my mum's going to be furious at me. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:51 And is that something, because you were talking about earlier that you are considering getting one? You see is that something that would hold you back? Yeah, it has. It is holding me back. Right. Does anyone in your family extend it or close have tattoos? A couple of cousins.
Starting point is 01:00:04 And? Show more cousins that just hide them. Have they been shunned from your family? No, I don't know at all. Is your mama a follower of Emperor Constantine? Constantine to an opal? No. No, but it was a different time. You know, because back when my parents were young, the people who had tattoos were rough
Starting point is 01:00:20 people. It's funny, because it just depends on the time now. It's so normal. So normal. But the mindset doesn't change from whenever you're young, you're like, if Tatoo's about now, I'm always going to see him that way. Whereas, as I was sort of talked about, it's been a roller coaster for Tatoo's over the century. Sometimes it's totally normal or even like high status thing.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Sometimes super low status. So it's funny that humans get so caught up in their little time that it's like, well, now it's right now. But even that's, it's already moved on in the last 40 years or not even probably 30, 20 years fact. Hey, Martin Hilderbrand is thought to be the first professional, I'm saying every word wrong, they're professional.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Martin Hilderbrand is thought to be the first professional tattoo artist in the US. He was a German immigrant who arrived in Boston in 1846 and he tattooed soldiers on both sides of the American Civil War. Sweet little cash in. Is he just sort of in the middle there? Just walking between the two parties? I like to think he's cool, guys. Don't show me I'm a tattooist.
Starting point is 01:01:32 He's tattooing on one side going, yeah. You guys are totally in the right way. I'm with you. Yeah, this crest, I believe in this and then go to the other side. So depending on which day he's working, he's got one sleeve rolled up, showing, yeah. Totally, Southern power. I agree with everything of the South.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Stick it to him. And then Yankee boys for life. Just don't look at my left arm. Yeah, death to Yankees on the left. Yankee life is pretty good Leave leave the hash shakes. What could you do with that? No, I'm not gonna try. Well, Yankee's good at some of Yankee boy you want me to hashtag Yankee boy No, I'm don't even want you to try okay good
Starting point is 01:02:25 Now I need to hear oh just something like with Wank. And that's somehow gonna be your positive slogan for the North. Yeah, get on the Wanky Boys. Fuck them Wanky Boys, let's say Wanky Twos. Yeah, you did. And that will be available for any upcoming slogan you need written for your festival parade or fundraiser. Yeah, that's right. Happy birthday, Jaden. Yeah, fuck.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Oh, sorry, sorry. Sorry, just slipped that in there. Sorry, Jaden. He's not Jaden. I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry,
Starting point is 01:02:58 I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm not sorry, Poole of Shucker. Please do go on. By the 1880s, tattooing had become a very expensive process. So it was a real mark of wealth for the aristocracy of Europe to have a tattoo.
Starting point is 01:03:17 So it became a really popular thing. And I think even, to go get the tattoos by the best of the best, they'd jump on a ship and go to places like Japan. So it's really, you had to be quite wealthy to get. A good tattoo. You couldn't just impulse tattoo, either, could you? That's right. I'm like, you'd have to, wow, got really drunk,
Starting point is 01:03:38 you end up on a ship. You get a tattoo, you wake up, you're out at sea for the next day, you go on, I don't wanna tattoo. Yeah, but now that you're already on the ship yeah you spent six weeks on a ship and nothing if you go home your friends are gonna call you all kinds of names that's true like a sissy boy oh no I'm not a sissy boy well get that tattoo then prove you're not a sissy boy you gotta go back again go see the nice Japanese man there's a tattoo um so yeah that was was that was one time where your mom would have been like
Starting point is 01:04:09 Yes, where is your tattoo? What are you for? I raised you better than this. Yeah, we have money get your tattoo Well, that's kind of that's all the bits and pieces. I've got apart from the final little segment Which I like to call facts Okay, no fun facts find a little segment which I like to call facts. Okay. No fun facts. But I like, because your thing is fun facts. My thing is the fun facts.
Starting point is 01:04:30 And in the past you've said, here are some fun facts and they haven't been all that fun. I haven't had a super record with my fun facts being fun. I will determine if they're fun or not. Okay, but these are definitely, fact almost definitely facts. And how many of you got, and how many do we have to have is it like a you have to go above 50% ratio to be fun or just we decide that
Starting point is 01:04:52 Well, let's I've got seven here seven. So let's give it like if you can get four for fun facts. It actually becomes fun Okay, then the whole segment can be deemed fun. All right. I shall keep a telly fact number one Matt All right in August 2013 William Malaney of London was tattooed with a portrait of his late father and That tattoo used ink mixed with a small portion of his father's ashes That is dad injected deep into his dermis. That's pretty, that's gross, but it's that fun. Matt, I'm gonna say that's fun.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Fun. And my judging for these is purely based on would I tell this at a dinner party? At a dinner party? Because I go to somebody dinner parties. I mean, would I, like, if I'm standing around at a party with friends? You're dinner party. Would I tell this? You're sitting down for dinner at a party.
Starting point is 01:05:46 I'm sitting down for dinner with some friends and we're celebrating something. Yeah, you're meeting your partner's parents for the first time in an extremely formal occasion. You said, you go, ding, ding, ding, ding, I have a little fun fact for you all about some guy who tattooed his dead dad onto him using his dead dad. It'd be best at a funeral.
Starting point is 01:06:05 That would be... That's what I could call... That's what I could call... That's what I could call... No one knows what to say. Yep, but you do. Hey, so are we... Cramading him?
Starting point is 01:06:13 Well... I know what we could do with it. He's what we can do. Or blasting him off into space. There you go. So fun. One from one. One from one.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Fun one from one. Let's do it. Another one. Number two. Some tattooing are made with animal products. So you know that? So actually if you just walked in a random tadu pile odds are probably have non vegan ink. Also I don't know if that's a fun fact, but interestingly the ingredients in the non-vegan tattoo ink can contain bone char, glycerin from animal fat, gelatin from hooves, or shellac from beetles. Oh, beetle shellac. Yeah, you can have that in
Starting point is 01:06:55 you. It's much like, you know, you might not have your own dad's ashes in you, but you could have, you know, like, the beetle's dead. Some Some Beatles dad or a horse's dad's hooves. I think getting a... What, do you think that my zebra tattoo, which because it is a zebra has hooves, is actually tattooed on using the ink from a horse's hoof? Oh, that would be... That is probable.
Starting point is 01:07:19 That is probable. Probable, but is it? But it's like probable. Fun. It's interesting. It's probable, but it bummed me out a little bit. It is not fun. Not fun. Oh, you've dropped to a 50% fun ratio. Okay. I Didn't look at I'm very low on confidence, so that doesn't surprise me. Right, Matt. When people can disagree with me as well
Starting point is 01:07:38 You can tweet to us if you disagree and think these are fun facts. Yeah, but I mean, you're a fucking idiot But I was about to say where's the hate coming from you? There it is, there it is, there it is. They're always just a moment away. Just around the corner, Matt. Number three, please. King Harold II, who was King of England. That's the one, I'm pretty sure,
Starting point is 01:07:57 who got shot in the eye, is this great? It is, yeah, he got shot through the eye with an arrow. Oh, it is. I was fascinated with that story when I was young. Really? Yeah, my mom's very big on Kings and Queens of England. She can name it all in order. But I remember, yeah, King Howard, you get to watch
Starting point is 01:08:13 Shut With a Bone Hour something? Yeah, Bone Hour. Yeah, that's right. And yesterday I taught him how to download podcasts. So in a couple of months, he'll be hearing this. Hi, Dad. Hi, Dad. Hi, Dave's Dad.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Look forward to getting your ashes into Dave. We'll talk about that Dad. Alright Matt. So in a battle in 1066 he got the arrow through the face. Messed up his whole face. So it didn't, I always thought that it killed him. Yeah it did. So when it came to identify the body,
Starting point is 01:08:47 his widow Edith had to identify him based on a tattoo, based on a tattoo on his heart, which read Edith and England. Oh, that's a brutal thing to discover, isn't it? Yeah, very sweet. And I imagine that on a battlefield, those kind of battles, they had, they didn't last very long with, they lose thousands of men, so she's going to different men opening
Starting point is 01:09:08 all their shirts, looking for it, looking for it. Oh, is that fun? Yeah, it is. It's fun! That's fun! That's the fun! That's the fun! It's a very fun, it's a very fun, I like her, but it put his wife ahead of his country as well. Well, think of England. That's nice. Lovely. I think it's really nice. This is over a thousand years ago. Yeah. Well, not quite a thousand years ago. What a sweetheart. This is almost a thousand years ago. Oh, what are you going to pull me up on a simple maths equation? On a simple five decade era?
Starting point is 01:09:37 My goodness. Number four, please, Matt. This one's from MSN.com. Oh, yeah, so it's credible. This is already fun. Because I don't, yeah, I'd like them obviously to get credit. Of course, and also a little struggling company. The segment is called fact, just not called credible fact.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Yeah, that's true. That's true as well. Exactly. So they're more fun than fact. Over the years, sailors' tattoos have had different meanings. And I've got a few examples here. So, they'll get different tattoos, say like an anchor. Yeah, anchor, I would have thought would be.
Starting point is 01:10:12 What do you, and... But that, what does that mean, something? What do you think that means? Oh, I thought it just meant like, I just thought you had an affinity with the sea. Yeah. Like your career sailor, is that something it means? It means the sailor has crossed the Atlantic. Oh, that's quite specific. Quite Pacific. No, at land. Oh, pardon me, sorry,
Starting point is 01:10:34 other second big section. So when girls get like an anchor on their ribs, like because and all the other ribs, they have a dream catcher, but when they have an anchor. and then on the other ribs they have a dream catcher, but when they have an anchor. Is this your plantats? No. A couple of rib cages? No. No. Maybe they should just, they should have thought about a little more as well.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Well, they may, they may well have crossed the Atlantic. Imagine that also means sailed across the Atlantic, not just across the Atlantic. Yeah. I think that was the preferred mode for most sailors of this time when you're talking about. A couple other examples. There was a dragon and a turtle. What do you reckon the turtle would mean? Turtle mean that while... Oh maybe that means you'd witnessed a turtle. See that would make sense. I'm asking you. You've got a very... This turtle mean you spend most of your life at CB you come on to land to have children
Starting point is 01:11:27 and you bury them in the sand and let them fend for themselves very strange sailors no it means they've crossed the equator I'd come believe you can get that oh yeah of course oh so this one probably you're more likely to get maybe a drag and what did that signify? Still unlikely, but that a chance. So you're a little troubled to China. Yeah, of course. Served in China. Served in China. Served in China. Yeah, I forget. Wales has the dragon on their flag. So that's a, is that a fun fact, Jess?
Starting point is 01:12:02 Massachusetts, I do even that fact. Fun! Three-one. Do you know why that's the thing? I've won more. In my opinion, I think that would be fun because you could be that wanker at a party telling people what their tattoos mean.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Yeah. Oh, hello, Josephina. See, you have a little anger there on your arm. Have you crossed the Atlantic? Bench, you guys. No, my dad had one and when he died, my siblings and I all got matching tattoos about dad to remind us of him. Incorrect!
Starting point is 01:12:31 I'm sorry, did you get some of his ashes in that tattoo? Because I have another fun fact for you if you need it. I am so fun at parties. Yeah. You sound like a wild child. How about this one? Do you know this to celebrate her mother being free of Cancer Emma Stone and her mum got tattoos that paid tribute to their favorite song black bird black bird by the Beatles
Starting point is 01:12:54 You know this one. I do know that one Paul McCartney designed it for her. He did so she wrote she wrote him a letter asking him asking P. Mac to For a drawing of birds feet to tattoo and he responded by sending over the drawing. They're really cute little birds feet too, they're just like little lines, they're really nice on our wrists, it's cool. That made me like Paul McCartney a little bit more. And Emma Stone.
Starting point is 01:13:16 I already like them. I know, I already like them both, they're both pretty cool. They're both pretty cool, but yeah, I did know that one, I don't know. I know, no, well. I know my opinion on this fact but Jess Well, I really like it when Unlikely celebrity friendships occur, you know, I like it. You know why? Because it's bloody fun fun fact for one
Starting point is 01:13:38 These two next ones they're just the asking on the cat you're this is already fun. It's already fun I can't believe it. So it would be pretty sad to ever be. To get 4 out of 5 in the last two, it's not going to be fun, wouldn't it? Yeah, or this? So there's a bit of pressure. Some pressure. I think we talked about earlier that sometimes,
Starting point is 01:13:56 when you're removing tattoos, some people also change them or removing because of a failed relationship. Do you might, I think this one's pretty famous. That's the one that I think of when I think of that scenario. Celebrity who had to have his tattoo change, any guesses? I was thinking Angelina Jolie.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Oh, I think it's Johnny Depp, your Johnny Depp, yes. Yes, that's it. He had a tattoo. Which it is, and it's a very good one too. He had a tattoo that read Winona forever when he was dating Winona Narada. I think he engaged with Winona Narada, yeah. And after they broke up he had it changed to Winno forever. Oh, that's funny. That's fun. That's fun. That's fun fact. Fun fact.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Fun fact. Now I feel bad for giving you that one that wasn't funny because you could have had a good straight. I could have had it all. No, I can't have it all. Go for 6-1, come on. This last one, these ones generally aren't that fun. The stats. The statistics are strong. Yeah, but I've held this one back till the end, because I really wanted to leave it to the last minute to talk about Biceps again.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Oh my god. Biceps. sets again. Oh my god. So here's a few stats. 14.5% of Australians have at least one tattoo. Ah, 14.5% of Australians, okay. That's still the clear minority that, isn't it? Yeah. I suppose a lot of older people. Older people, babies, like you can't have tattoos if I think it's illegal until you're 18 or? Yeah, so true, so... I think some people do go around it, but I think the general rule is you're not supposed to before 18. I think it's most popular with people like... I'd say 35 under, would you say?
Starting point is 01:15:34 Uh, yeah, when they get them, but I mean they maintain them and they still have them in their area. Exactly, but again, because it wasn't, it was sort of the bad boys who had him back in the 60s, 70s. Now it's us young people and we think we're artists. That's why you're getting one. Oh man, I can't wait to find out if you've changed your mind about getting one or not. And they also split, I found these stats off a tattoo removalist's website. Oh great. So you know they're going to be better.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Oh, so they're not biased in any way. No, but anyway. Great. They have the split between men and women in Australia who have tattoos. Who do you reckon would have more men or women? Men. It's pretty close.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Percentage? I think women. I say men. It is men, but it is pretty close. It's 15.4% to 13.6%. Oh, okay. Oh yeah, it's close. I read an American one that had women with a higher percentage, which is interesting. So it's not universal, but I mean, that's pretty close anyway, right?
Starting point is 01:16:35 You know, with a 2% margin for error. Exactly. 40% of Australians got their first tattoo at 26 years old or older. How old are you? I'm 25. Turning 26. So 40%, I mean 60% were 25 or younger. So you're going to be in the majority of the minority. But it's still not a weird thing for a 26 plus to get at them. Yeah, it's still fine. No, not at all. Wow, exciting. 10% of people got their first tattoo aged mid 40s or older, so people still, they're still, that's as many people as there are left handers, I think.
Starting point is 01:17:15 So, 10%. Hmm, no, you're right, that's correct. Not fun, but correct. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the memorial tattoo of a lost lover or whatever. I think they're more like a... I think it may be above 40, you're probably less likely to go from zero to a full sleeve in one session. But maybe a momento, someone's name or something, yeah. Yeah, someone a little thing on you or whatever.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Or whatever, you're like... Your bicep. Your bicep, say. Well, that brings us to the final... Your bicep. The final, yeah, I didn't look up tricep. Is that what they say? No, T. Well, at the start, there's one T, but it is definitely the beginning of the world beginning
Starting point is 01:18:14 of the word. Tricep. Tricep. Tricep. Tricep. Tricep. The tops. Tricep. But there are, look, there are words that like are similar to those in apt concept, yes. Inept, concept. Like it's not out of nowhere at all. Dave, right? Give me that, Dave. Yeah, there are other words that exist in the world, yes. The PT.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Yes, that's correct. That's right, there are other words. Let's go with that. Well, that was basically what I was saying. Why did you give Jess the click? Well, she needs it more. I do, I'm very lucky. Oh man, and there's a left-handed compliment.
Starting point is 01:18:49 It's a little callback. Enjoy it, I enjoy that. Please, so I go on with you. Is it a tricep to bicep to abdominal sept? Well, no, I was, they also had the most common placements on men and women. They had two for men and four for women. Let's get some. And I was wondering, I mean, obviously I've given one of them away.
Starting point is 01:19:08 So biceps. So it's for men first. Biceps. Yeah. And, oh, biceps. Like, like, I reckon, shoulder. You're going to start saying biceps accidentally now. It's bad, isn't it? Yeah. What about, uh, like shoulder, like, all you back, you back your shoulder blade there? Uh, leg like you, I think, man. Nope. Or back. I'm'm gonna give Jess that point. Fair enough. So back and bicep over the two and then women have a four.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Okay wrist. No. Really? A lot of the wrist would be a big one. Bicep does well. Yes. Ah okay. Behind the ear you know that one that people get because it's a good one.
Starting point is 01:19:42 They can cover with it here. Ankle for foot. Feet is one. Yeah, it's always an ankle, yeah. What about the, what people call the tramp stamp? No, no, no, really. Out of fashion. Thank God.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Fair enough. Okay, what have we got? Ripper by seven feet. Rib. Rib page. Of course, of course. Correct. The anchor in the dream catch, you have to go on your rib.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Yeah, I thought you were going to get the one, too. It's precious. Sorry or Hand no, they're not though sometimes with ladies get I've seen it. I'm this one surprising. I think you'll get this one No, it is it That's like hard impossible to cover. Yeah, that doesn't sound right to me, but it was on a website So I'm not gonna show that was on the biggest tattoo regret stock. Yeah, that doesn't sound right to me, but it was on a website, so I'm not gonna show that was on the biggest tattoo regret Stockholm. Yeah, Nick. Yeah, that was big. I see. Yeah, right. Though I think I think that's an interesting fact, but is it fun Jess? I think it's bloody fast.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Six words. Six one in favor of fun Matt. Well done. You are getting really good at this fun fact thing. Yeah, look, you know, I think it just shows that when you put your mind to something, you can achieve fun facts. How did you do that? Well, I think the fun of Spectrivo will be whether Jess reveals, whether or not she will be getting a tattoo live on the program,
Starting point is 01:20:56 because downstairs you're not aware of this. We have a trained tattooist ready to go. What? It is Matt giving his first go. Yeah, and I'm not trained. I'm not. Come on Matt. That's what I was thinking.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Like I've read so much about it recently. It's fine. I know about dermis, epidermis, that third dermis. You know how to say the word bicep. Correct it. I'm not, I'm not going to be putting it on my bicep. So we're safe. Okay, great.
Starting point is 01:21:23 It hasn't put me off, actually. Rib cage? No. Where are you gonna get it? What's it gonna be? I've just drawn it on myself before, because I was so bored by your dumb report. You're right, the anger's never far away, is it? Yep, it's always there, but-
Starting point is 01:21:34 I'm so worried. And you've drawn it on your right wrist. Yes. But did you draw that just because you left handed, and that's the better draw? Oh, a good point. Did you get it tattooed? I would put it on the right, though, yes.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Why right wrist? I don't know, just because that's where I like it and there's two little arrows You tell us about that it almost looks like a Rewind symbol. Oh The two triangles they're pointing up basically, but on the side it would be like rewind and it's a it's a Viking symbol That means create your own reality. How did you come across that? She's super wanky. I found a little Pinterest I found on the internet. I would Google, the hell out of that just to make sure. Oh I know for sure, yeah I would look into that. But I like it because, like last year
Starting point is 01:22:13 was sort of the first year that I actually tried anything in my life ever and actually took opportunities and it worked well for me so it's kind of like a reminder to keep going buddy, you're okay. That's good. Oh, that is a gross way to finish. We can't finish on that note. So positive. Yes, give us some more. I'll be a bit angry about it.
Starting point is 01:22:32 Could you, I reckon drop Paul McCartney online about it as well. Yeah, probably, yeah. Hey, Paul, can you draw us a couple of arrows? Yeah. Just like this. Pretty much just. Just draw this, please. Can you just email the attachment back?
Starting point is 01:22:45 Yeah. And I can claim you are a director of my tattoo. It was Paul McCartney. Thank you. Paul McCartney. Kind regards, J Perkins. Yeah, D-head. Because the anger's never fired. I'm very worried now that I have anger issues that you guys hadn't told me about.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Don't get her worried, Dave. You know, that's when she gets crazy. Yes she gets angry. Angry and angry. And how about you think, would you, you're going to get your, you inspired to get yours finished? Yeah, I have been permanently inspired. Let's all go together.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Yeah I mean, let's do it. Let's go get some vegan tattoos. Yes, sick. Well there you go guys. Jess is going to get her tattoo. Matt is maybe going to finish his tattoo after how many years has it been? It's not like 10 or 10 years.
Starting point is 01:23:29 And I am still pretty happy with my zebra keyboard George. So thanks so much for listening guys. Let us know. Do you have any dumb tattoos? Tweet us in at do go on pod. You can email do go on podatgeema.com. And we are on the land of Facebook as well. Yeah, send us pictures of your tattoos too. They don't have to be dumb. You can be really
Starting point is 01:23:50 proud of it too. You said like do you have any dumb tattoos? You got a good one, send that too. Yeah, that's probably more positive. If you do that probably hashtag it, King for Pain. Just so we can search it a bit easier. King for Pain. Here's a tattoo of like Mickey Mouse or something on their back Well, thanks so much for listening guys. I'll be back next week with a report that I'm excited about and hope you will be too But until then take it easy and probably don't get a tattoo in the next seven days. Okay What's gonna say I probably don't get a tattoo of this podcast though? We'd be going to be great. So I'm gonna do go on I don't get a tattoo of this podcast. So it would be great if someone got to go on tattoo. Well, I was thinking like, I'll get a 100th episode,
Starting point is 01:24:27 we'll go get a little one tattoo. I'd get a two-go one, tattoo. So we only need, what, 80 something more episodes and we will all definitely get tattoos. Yeah. Once again, my dad is listening to the show these days. Thank you so much and we'll see you next week. Bye-bye.
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