Do Go On - 181 - The Loomis Fargo Heist

Episode Date: April 10, 2019

In 1997 cash handling company Loomis Fargo experienced the two largest cash robberies ever committed on American soil. It wasn't a great year!The first was a crime of opportunity, the second was a mor...e planned affair. And yet, it turned out to be the most ridiculous heist in history. Seriously, the stupidity of the crime is unbelievable and also hilarious.Tickets to our four Melbourne Comedy Festival live podcasts:https://www.comedyfestival.com.au/2019/shows/do-go-onSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comBook tickets to Matt's stand up show (in Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane and Melbourne) with the early bird discount code: dogoonvia mattstewartcomedy.com/gigs Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://omny.fm/shows/bookcheatPrime Mates: https://omny.fm/shows/prime-matesOur awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasReferences and further reading:https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5sw20b/my_name_is_david_scott_ghantt_i_stole_17_million/The FBI Files (Discovery Channel) The Un-Perfect Crime, 2001:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNvN5v_i_tAhttps://www.gastongazette.com/news/20170930/looking-back-at-loomis-heisthttps://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1999/02/18/the-thieves-who-couldnt-cope-with-17-million/f2086821-442a-4c74-ac7a-5625de1c4740/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c841560ad81ahttps://allthatsinteresting.com/loomis-fargo-heist-david-ghantthttps://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2016/09/27/masterminds-movie-true-but-stupid-story/91154710/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal, and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates.
Starting point is 00:00:38 And welcome to another episode of Dugo One. My name is Dave Warnock, and I'm sitting here with two of the best in the beers. Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. What biz? Fun police. Wait, that means we're the best at quelling fun. Yeah, that's right. Great use of the word quelling.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Oh, thank you. I'm impressed by that. I wouldn't have said quelling. That's great. That's so good. Do you see that he takes the fun out of everything by using words like that? By quelling. If anything,
Starting point is 00:01:23 that provided more fun for me than just about anything you've ever said. Well, look, I was just trying to give you a back end compliment there by saying you're good at not being fun. Oh, gee whiz. That's funny to get that kind of criticism from such a nerd. What is this topsy-turvy day?
Starting point is 00:01:43 Everything's upside day. Well, guys, hey, I put butter and peanut butter together today. So I'm pretty crazy. You're wild. It should be illegal. This is what it should be. We've done two live shows now. And my parents were at our live show this weekend, last weekend.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And somebody asked them, who's your favorite reporter on the show? And Mom did the polite thing and said, well, obviously, I'm biased. So I'd say Jess. And I was like, Mom, I'm not even my favorite. That's correct answer. Obviously, it's day. And then she was like, yeah, but that means you and Matt get to just like be, you guys just get to hang shit on Dave.
Starting point is 00:02:20 And that's what we do best. Right. Again, another backhanded compliment there. Thank you, Annie. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Woo. Backhanded across the board.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Yeah. We're all put down from that. No one's come across well. But thank you to all the parents that attended on. Oh, hang on. Well, my parents were also there. Matt's, well, looks at your game. I left two seats empty for them.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I was standing there with my baseball mitt. It was my first game in Little League. Oh, he just went to the milk bar to get some smokes. Dad had to go get me a read. He didn't know what it was. Now I'm playing a saxophone recital, and I'm Lisa Simpson. Anyway, but yeah, we had a lot of people come out, packed out another second of four live podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:11 And it was a lot of fun. It was great. Thanks to everyone that came along. We of course have to give a big shout out to Gail and Preston who came from Utah. And by now you may have seen some photos on social media, which we'll post up of we were given some gifts. Pretty amazing. That Gail had made some puppets that look like us. Here and see that all happen on Patreon episode later this month, which we'll put out that one there.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And there's video of it as well, which will be there for the Patriol. I've never seen your face make that shape before. Oh, a good day. Don't get me wrong. I loved it. Okay, great. But it's just very unfamiliar. It's going to be really hard for him to do it ever again now.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I reckon that's one and done. Yeah. Let's go to the tape. It's burnt in here. I'll cherish that. Cherish the thought. That's why I don't speak French anymore. Oh.
Starting point is 00:04:11 It's too distracting for all because. That was joyous. But we're trying to tell you that we had a great time, and you two too can be part of the fun. We've got two more seven. You too? Bono is going to be there. Bono will be opening for us, and then the edge will be closing.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And Adam Clayton is not invited. Oh, wow. And the third one. And Larry Mullen's senior son. Riffing off other pods. I know, that's right. Bit of fun, bit of fun. If you get it, you do.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And you two can be part of the U-2 extravaganza when you come to the European beer cafe the next two Saturdays at 3 o'clock. One of them, again, will be another probably Patreon bonus episode, so you need to be in the room or Patreon to hear it. And the other one will put out on the feet, and we may have a special guest at one of the two. Yes, I'm, I just messaged him just then and said, which one can you do? Oh, confirmed it's a he, okay. Or she. Now doing a bit of James A custom material. Or she. Anyway, let's stop doing in jokes. They're not in. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I pulled out a prove at the show on Saturday. Dave, can you edit all this stuff out, please? It's too baffling. We've gone baffling too early. I should also plug that I don't edit this out. My show, Bone Dry, which has been so much fun, and there's less than two weeks of it left now. I think there'll be 10 or 9 left when this episode comes out at the Chinese Museum,
Starting point is 00:05:33 7 o'clock, every night by on Monday, and Sundays are at the very reasonable hour of 6pm. That is reasonable. So many great dumpling options around the corner. Dave, can you edit that part out? Yeah, yeah. That was dry. That was bone dry.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Oh, the name of the show is bone dry. Thank you so much, Dave. Sort of good director does, my friend. Yeah. I've met, I reckon most nights there's been a one or two do-go-one listeners, which has been really cool. That's awesome. And you should go see it.
Starting point is 00:06:02 It is a really good show. Thanks, Paul. I say that very reluctantly. You hate me, but you respect me. I respect your art, but I hate you. hate you as a person, love you as an artist. Yep. I'm the modern day going through some options here.
Starting point is 00:06:20 No. Pick an artist. Who's a bad person? No. Kevin Sorbo. No. Oh, wait. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Yep, that would be right. Love your art. Hate you person. Yeah. My first thing was to say Adolf Hitler, but that made no sense at all. Well, he was a painter. Yeah. Oh, it made some sense.
Starting point is 00:06:39 My subconscious made a good. bit there. Could be gone, Rolf Harris. No, that feels worse. Wow. That's a big call. Yeah, it's a big lead. Just to edit all of this first section out, if we can start the show now. Okay, welcome to the great show.
Starting point is 00:06:55 That is, do go on. Thanks for tuning in. We've got to make a quick note for last week's episode, which was recorded live, and it was about the great man, Sydney Scheinberg. And Matt, at the time, you said that you forgot to say the official suggestor of that topic. Yes, that's right. So we'd like to thank a big shout out to Patrick Webb. So a lot of people tweeted us saying, hey, you should do it as a topic.
Starting point is 00:07:16 But Patrick Webb was the only one that filled out the official form and put it into the hat. So Patrick, you made it happen. Just for your admin. Just because of your admin skills. Yeah, it's very hard to figure out who's suggested stuff unless they put it in the hat. Yeah, we can't go back through because there's so many different ways people comment and leave him in. So basically, if you want us to do a topic, make sure it is in the hat. There's a link in the description of this episode, which is where I got this topic.
Starting point is 00:07:40 that I'm about to tell you about. And I didn't know about it before someone suggested it. I thought we were just going to do admin this episode. Yeah, I've got some emails to reply to. We'll reply live. I've got one here from John in the United States of America. Whoa. Thank you for writing in John.
Starting point is 00:07:58 That can be fun. You can just hear me typing and talking out loud slowly. Well, make that it be a fun Patreon bonus episode. We write back to emails live and uncensored. Dave uses the space bar in a saucy way. Find out how. A backspace. A back space.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Keep back in spacing up. All right, let's get into the show. If you haven't heard it before, let me get us out of trouble by telling you that it is a show where one of the three of us reports on a topic suggested by a listener via that form and that the Jack the Hat that I just mentioned. And it is my turn to tell you about a topic that you don't know what it's going to be. And to get us on the topic, I'm going to ask you a question. I don't expect you to know the answer. How dare you? But if you do, then what?
Starting point is 00:08:44 Five points each. Actually, to the winner, to the winner. Yeah, that makes more sense. Each to the winner. Okay. It's a weird game. Yeah, I don't like this game. Well, it could be a tie.
Starting point is 00:08:53 You've already made this weird. Okay, question. Which company was the target of... Bick! She's locked out now, I think. Is that right? Yes, it's over to you, Matt, which is never good. Could I get the full question, please?
Starting point is 00:09:07 Could I have it in a sentence? Yes. This question is a sentence. Okay, great. Which company was the target of the two largest cash robberies in US history in the same year? Target. I'm speaking with Bick and Target. Is that because it was a target?
Starting point is 00:09:23 Makes sense. Is it a casino? No, it is. Hang on. I think of Ocean's 11. What's the question now? I wasn't listening beyond when you said Target. Well, I'll pick it up from Target.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Of the two largest cash robberies in U.S. history in the same year. Was it the Bellagio? See, that's what I was thinking. It was not a casino. I asked that. Did you stop listening also when I... Yeah, I didn't listen to anything beyond the word target. I don't expect you to know because we don't have this company in Australia.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Okay, what don't we have? The maple syrup heist. No, what is it? Olive garden. How many of these do we have to do before we get to a point where one of us genuinely forgets that we've done the topic before? Does the whole research and brings it in. I forget constantly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Remember we did white shoe. That still blows my mind. Sometimes you say like, yeah, like we talked about it on that episode. I'm like, do I? But that's saying more about me. We've got to think of some American things. Burger King. Chapo-Lay.
Starting point is 00:10:20 What about, what's their version of Taco Bills? Taco Bell. Tico Bell. So close. Taco Bell was the target of the two largest cat robberies in the same year. Can you give us a clue as to what kind of company it is? They're a cash handling company with Arm and Trucks. You won't know.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Can I just tell you what it is? No. Chub. It's two words. I'll give you the first. I'm it's chub. Is it chub? Chub's so good.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Is it chub? Imagine having a company called chubb. Chubb with a double B. Yeah, that's real chub. The extra B's for bring your own chub. That doesn't make any sense. Okay, okay, you want to give us the first word. Okay, first word is Lumis.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Second word is, Fajar. Fajar. Loomis, so close. Fargo. Fargo. Fargo. Yeah, it's got it.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Thank you. Fuck you. Five points age. Yeah, you did say. Five points each to Matt. So it wasn't Loomis Farger? No, I wish it was. Disappointing.
Starting point is 00:11:21 It's Loomis Fargo. Lumas Fargo. Which I hadn't heard about this before, but they were the target of the two largest cash robberies in US history in the same year. And I'm going to tell you about those heists. It is a heist episode. Yay. That question.
Starting point is 00:11:36 You, I mean... You fucked us on that question. Not a good question, Dave. Yeah, Dave, not your best question. Maybe Annie Perkins thinks you're the best report writer, but you're the shittest question writer. And Jess doesn't even write questions. So there's not a lot of competition.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I used to do that for a job. Trying to think of questions. All right, well, maybe at the end you can critique me with a better question once you know other facts. But I don't want to give anything away because it is, it's a wild story. Cool. I love a wild story.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I know you do. You've got to love this. It's been suggested by, two people. David Hicks from North Carolina. See, yeah. He went to Guantanamo, but not the Australian possible terrorist.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Never know the legality of that. Was he a terrorist and then? Alleged. Just say alleged. But this is H.I.X. So, spell differently, David Hicks from North Carolina. And Marcus Brisbane from Gothenburg, Sweden. Wow. That's cool. I love all of that. This was
Starting point is 00:12:33 voted for by the Patrons. Our patron supporters. I put three times I don't know if you guys do this. You put three in there. You secretly hope for one to win. Always. I actually wanted a different one to win. Oh.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Secretly. But then this one, and since writing it, they know the show better than me. So I appreciate that. They've picked a good one. Trust in the Patreon. I think that's the best thing about the vote is that I normally put up three that I think are good. And then they seem to know how to pick the best one. Yeah, I was happy with all three.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But I just thought there was one other one, which I might get to in the future. But this one. Less I snag it. Which is well. I know. Damn it. I'm going to now. No, please don't do.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I can't remember what it was called. You're just saying that, man. I'm going to bloody hack the mainframe. Get out of my mainframe. She's already in there. Look, she's tippet it, tap it in a way. Oh, no. Oh, she's going to do something saucy with that space.
Starting point is 00:13:23 A space, a space, a space. Okay, let's get into it. Loomis Fargo and Coe is a cash handling company running armored trucks, transporting cash and maintaining ATMs across America. Oh, my God. That's the one I've been trying to think of this whole time, and I didn't get it until he said armoured trucks. I was like, ah.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Got it. So they like Armagarde. They're like Chubb. They're like Chubb. If it helps put it in perspective for listeners, they're like a chub. Yeah, for any American listeners that are struggling, it's like chub. Yeah. So Lomas Fargo was basically formed.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I've never noticed how funny chub is. It is very funny. Chubb. I think they do multiple things as well. They're quite a... Yeah, they're big. Much like Bick. Bick.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Oh yeah. Pens. Two pens, four pens. Razers. Rayses. They do razors. Bik razors. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Whoa. Probably do other stuff. Anyway, I'm so sorry to do go long. Lumas Fargo was basically formed in 1997 when two decades old armored security companies, one called Wells Fargo Armored Service, and Lumus Armored Incorporated, came together to form one massive, and super armoured service. Sort of like the power range is coming together.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Sick. Their first year, as this company, did not go well. During the first year of operation, the company was the target for the two largest cash robberies ever committed on American soil. That's the top two in their first ever year of operation. I mean, the first year is always tough for the new business. That is not good.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And then add in being targeted for heists, you'd be like, bloody hell. I'm happy to see the end of this. financial you. Tell you that for free. Because I got no money. Come July 1st, I'm a new man. The first heist occurred in March 1997 when employee Philip N. Johnson, on his own,
Starting point is 00:15:18 stole $18.8 million. Whoa. Philip and Johnson on his own. That doesn't make any sense. Philip N. Johnson. What's the N for, I wonder? Nelly. N for Nellie.
Starting point is 00:15:29 You a big Burjo fan? Oh, man, we're going on trigger. I started following Burjo on Twitter. John Burjo. And he is so funny. He does tweets every Friday and finishes them all with TGIF. And then have you noticed that dozens of people write back, TGIF, baby John? Oh man, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:15:52 He used to host our sale of the century. No, he didn't. Wheel of Fortune. And also Burjo's catchphrase. Which I thought was a fantastic show. Can I just put that on the record? Anyway, Philip N. Johnson on his own, Philip. Nellie Johnson.
Starting point is 00:16:07 On his own, I'm sorry. I don't know him that well. I really should. Did it on his own. He stole 18.8 million from the Lumas Fargo armoured car that he was driving. I mean, just carrying that would be hard. That's a lot of cash. But he's already got an armoured car.
Starting point is 00:16:20 He can take it away. He didn't have to carry. That's right. He handcuffed his two co-workers in different places. He overpowered them, handcuffed them, drop them off, and then kept driving the truck. He stole all the money inside and stashed it in a warehouse. But he was caught trying to cross the border into Mexico, So arrested and sentenced to 25 years in jail.
Starting point is 00:16:37 So we didn't get to spend his scent. Oh, no. Not even, like, didn't even buy himself an ice cream. Yeah, petrol. He surely had to fill up on the way. He didn't spend a cent. Wait, he wasn't doing petrol on his own savings, was he? That would be silly.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So stupid. I would have paid it in bullion. He put it on his card, he tapped it and then went, oh, shit. Sorry, can you undo that transaction? I've got it. And then he just gave him a gold nugget instead. He gave a nugget. He tried to tap on a bullion on the tap on.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Yeah. They had that in 97. New money, am I right? This guy was new money. But then he was arrested 25 years and jail. That's the first heist. The next house to affect Luma's Faga that year is the subject of today's story. So that was the first massive hymn.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Because you really did get through that one pretty quickly. Yeah. That one in comparison is quite dull, to be honest. I mean, he did it by himself. Yeah. I would be more impressed if he carried it. You know when you got a few too many coins in your wallet and your wallet's heavy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I'd be like, totally hell. That's a few dollars. Yeah, this is a few million. Whoa. What's that compared to a few dollars? How many times? Several million. Several million times.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Bloody hell. You are good at maths. Yeah. It was so fast. It was really fast. And that does give me an idea of how heavy it would be. Yeah. A couple million times heavier.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Yeah, just imagine two Olympics are swimming pools. Filled with money. No, just imagine two. Hmm. Yeah, great. Now she's on board. I feel like going for a swim. Damn it, Dave.
Starting point is 00:18:03 All right. Let's get into the main story in 1997, also the same year, 27-year-old David Gantt. David Gant had just been made Volt Supervisor at the Lumas Fargo Warehouse in Charlotte, North Carolina. Charlotte, North Carolina. I know a good fact about that. Really does it involve Lumas and Or Fargo? No, but they have a basketball team.
Starting point is 00:18:24 They're called the Hornets. And as a kid, I played for the Bentley Hornets. Oh, there you go. Did not expect that at all. There you go. We've learned a lot to you today. Don't worry, plenty more time for more Charlotte facts, as this whole story is based in North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I think that might be all the ones I have. I was talking to Jess. Yeah, I got hate. Okay, cool. David Gant worked his ass off putting in long hours at work, but apparently wasn't cut out to be Volt supervisor. He had recently left some cash unattended, and although nothing had happened to it,
Starting point is 00:18:54 his boss told him if it happened again, he'd be fired. Oh, that's no good. On the morning of October 5th, 1997, Gant's wife Tammy made a call to local police reporting her husband David missing. He'd done the night shift at Loomis Fargo but had never returned home. The police sent an officer down to Loomis to check it out and were surprised at what they found. David's truck was parked out the front of the Loomis gate, which was unlocked. The officer went inside and found that the door to the warehouse was also open, but no one was around.
Starting point is 00:19:26 It was all a bit suss, so he called in some backup. Oh, I love that. Alumus supervisor met him and the backup inside. So they went into find that the giant walk-in vault was locked, but all of the keys were missing. So was one unmarked van, and so was David Gant. He's in the vault. Where is David Gant? In the vault.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Oh, thank you. That's my guess. It's a good guess. Someone's come in, taking the cash, locked him in the vault. Right. That's embarrassing. Hopefully they gave him something to do in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Sudoku book. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's a bit samey, isn't it? Sudoku? Yeah, that's part of it. I mean, not going to give him something fun to, are they? It shouldn't be a pleasant experience for him. Well, it's not his fault that they've robbed him.
Starting point is 00:20:10 But, I mean, if they're already robbers... Oh, now you're saying robbers are bad people. Yep. Oh, that is just like you. Yeah. Judging. You don't know the story? Don't need to.
Starting point is 00:20:21 How do you know that they weren't stealing that money to give to, like, a really bad person? Who had? cancer. Oh. And working on themselves. Sorry if it gives too much away, but is that the case? Well, well, we're going to find out it is at this stage unknown. I don't think it is.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Gant had closed up the night before and was working alongside a new trainee. The cops checked the videotapes from the security camera in and around the vault, but both of the tapes were missing. Oh. But in a second locked cabinet, however, there was a backup third tape that was still there. The officers played the tape and the supervisor was shocked by what he saw. There on the tape was his employee of several years, David Gant unloading the vault of all its money.
Starting point is 00:21:09 David Gantt. David Gant. Well, don't say it a third time because something bad will happen. Oh, no. He'll appear. Oh, no. With a lot of money. He's banging on the vault door.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Please, someone say my name. Get me out of here. I'll bring you $18 million. Or some other number that Dave said before? No, that was the previous heist. Will this beat it or be just shy? Only time will tell. But the money that was stolen was the property of federally insured banks,
Starting point is 00:21:40 and this meant that the robbery was a federal offence, and the FBI could be called in. Ooh, the fibbies are in. The feds, hey? Oh, it looks like the... I prefer fibbies. Yeah, you're misprouncing it, I'm like. But say fibbies.
Starting point is 00:21:55 It's fun. Phoebe. You better... When they arrived, you'd definitely better believe there would have been out. Don't you give me any of this jurisdiction bullshit, man. This is our case now. This is our town. Hey, I'm the sheriff in this town.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Hey, I'm the mayor of this town. Huh? Well, I'm the president of this town. You're out of order. You can't handle the truth. Yeah, we've seen American stuff. Yeah, go on. We know a little bit about it.
Starting point is 00:22:20 You're talking to me? Hey, booby. We just quoted the three best American films. So the fibs rocked up. They quickly started interviewing David's wife, family, friends and co-workers. They discovered that Gant was a Gulf War veteran, had been honorably discharged and had never been in trouble with the law in his life. No one the FBI interviewed could believe that he was capable of such a thing,
Starting point is 00:22:45 especially his wife. She explained that they lived quite frugally paycheck to paycheck in their mobile home and that David hadn't shown any science of strange behavior over the preceding weeks. No one seemed to even give him credit to pull off such an audacious crime and then disappear. They just didn't think he was capable. They're like, nah, not him. He's a bit of a loser, to be honest. He wouldn't be able to do this.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Would you guys be surprised if I did something like that? Absolutely not. I would be surprised. Thank you, Matt. You don't. Fuck you, Dave. Hang on, I think you've got it in you. You're just too busy.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I think you could do it. Too busy? Yeah. I really thought you were going to say I'm too stupid. So that's nice. Thank you. Yes, stupidly busy. And I mean, you know, you grew up with a butler.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Just go ask your butler for a loan if you need one. That's true. Charles. Money, please. That's the Donald Trump defense when he's like, I mean, I'm already rich, so why would I be corrupt? Yeah. I don't need to be corrupt. I'm already rich.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Some people went for that. Anyway. Incredible. Ridiculous. Oh, you're going to start commenting on American politics now, Dave. Yeah. I think that's a little out of your jurisdiction. Hey, you give me any of that jurisdiction.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I'll shove your jurisdiction up my house. Hang on. Okay, I'm backing off. No, please, no. Please, take it. Have it. You can have the case, all right? I had one day till retirement.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I'm retiring one day early. I quite like that as well. That's always people fighting to do more work. If it was different kind of cops, they'd be like, no, I think this is your jurisdiction, isn't it? Really? I'm going to go back to the computer play solitaire. No way, Malone. This ain't my case.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I saw nothing. I've got no leads. I don't know anyone. You get in there and do what you do, but I don't do anything. I don't do crime. You know, I'm a pencil pusher, and I love pencils.
Starting point is 00:24:41 He shoves them up his butt. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. That's his jurisdiction up there. So everyone was like, he couldn't do it. He couldn't do it. And yet here he was on videotape,
Starting point is 00:24:54 unloading the vault. Where's the trainee? We don't know yet. So he's unloading the vault. I'm onto something. Either he was stealing the money or someone was forcing him to steal the money. The FBI were worried about Gant. Perhaps he was still locked inside the vault, I have written here.
Starting point is 00:25:11 They were genuinely worried about this, about this. And also, yeah, I guess is there a reason only one tape was caught? Did they want them to find that tape? Many questions? Early on. Blumas couldn't locate any of the keys So they brought in a specialty locksmith To break into their own vault
Starting point is 00:25:30 Which to be honest I'd be pissed off that you can break into the vault Yeah This vault is clearly not a good fault Yeah Because they got in there When they got inside They found it empty of both money
Starting point is 00:25:41 And David No one was in the vault Not in the vault Nothing was in there 2800 pounds Or 1200 kilos of currency Had been unloaded That's so many kilos of currency
Starting point is 00:25:52 It's ridiculous All up, 17.3 million US currency had been stolen. Just shy. 11 million was in $20 notes that were to be used to stock ATMs. All up, that's $28 million US today. So you could definitely spread all those out on a bed and just... Oh, you could like carpet your entire apartment in $20 notes. Sick.
Starting point is 00:26:18 So you don't even have to spend the money. You just use it for practical speed. Toilet paper. You build stuff and wipe asses with it. Yeah, that first guy did not need to go to Mexico at all. I'm here to build stuff and wipe arses. And I'm all out of building stuff. Wipe and arces is my jurisdiction, man.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Because the cash was to go into general circulation, it was non-sequential, non-marked and was impossible to trace. Ah, fuck. Because that's always the thing when people like want ransom money. You can just trace it. Yeah. Yeah. Not unless they say I want non-sequential bills.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Yeah. And then the FBI is like, they got us. And then they use invisible ink. Yeah. And right, you're a dickhead on it. And they put them under the microscope.
Starting point is 00:27:08 They got me. Fuck. They call them up. You're out of order. No, you're out of order. We should go to America. Yeah. I reckon we fit right in.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Great country. Great country. Am I right? Beautiful country. Great country. God's country. The fibbers, the FBI, searched the scene for clues And when they got into David's truck in front of the warehouse
Starting point is 00:27:27 They discovered his wedding ring in the ash tray Oh no, he was having an affair With the truck Oh no He turns to ash Oh, he loved that truck Yeah, physically and mentally It was a full affair
Starting point is 00:27:44 You know, sometimes people have an affair But it's only emotional Yeah He did it physical as well He fucked the truck He fucked that truck. Oh, you better believe he fucked that truck. He fucked that truck with his wedding ring.
Starting point is 00:27:55 No, wedding finger. He got stuck inside. That's why it's in the truck. It came off. Hey, crazy things happen when you're passionate. Yeah. You wouldn't know about that, but yeah. Hey, I've taken off a few wedding rings in my time.
Starting point is 00:28:11 What? I've had affairs with several married people. I'd be like, I'm sorry, this is hard for me unless you take that off. And I, sorry. I spend about a 15. Just getting it off their finger. Oh, sorry, let me get some lemon juice. Soapy water or something.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Oh, no. Oh, now your fingers are swollen. Okay, now we're going to have to wait for it to subside. I'm sorry, okay. Anyway, just hold on to that foreplay feeling. Oh, God, this is sexy. That foreplay feeling. TGIF.
Starting point is 00:28:44 TGIFF. TGIFF. Thank God I have foreplay feeling. Dave, please continue with the report. It's like baby John Burgess is in the room. The FBI wondered if he was sending them a signal. Was he saying that he'd moved on with his life and cut ties to his loved ones? Or was this a cry for help?
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yeah, this is someone they didn't believe could possibly have done it. Now they're like, ooh, is it a cryptic clue? I mean, he's an idiot. Is he capable of cryptic clues? Why was it? Because he was an idiot, they thought he wouldn't do it, or it was because he was a good person? I think both. Oh.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And not even, it's not just. An idiot. But like not brave enough and not ballsy enough to be like, fuck this. I'm just going to steal $18 million. I imagine that would be the most heartbreaking thing to find out. It's not that they think you're too good to commit a bad crime. It's that you just don't have the guts.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I could. I could. I just don't want to. I don't want to. But if I wanted to. I could definitely do it. I could. So shut up.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I'm not a good person. No, I'm a bad person. I'm going to kick over that bin. I'm a bad bad boy. Yeah, I'm going to go buy a leather jacket. Yeah. Yeah, I smoke now. Cool.
Starting point is 00:29:58 He did smoke. Gant's wife told the FBI that they'd recently run up a small credit card debt. Didn't think this would have resulted in him stealing millions of dollars. He's overcorrected a bit. Yeah. All right, we owe two grand and he's just stolen $17 million. I told you he was not good at mass. They really had no motive for the crime,
Starting point is 00:30:19 and David had been following his normal routine. to a T. No weird science. I like the idea of no motive for stealing $18 million. Like, people need a motive for that. Wouldn't the motive be to have $18 million? Wow. Before this house, he didn't have $18 million.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And he wanted it. That was his motive. That's fair. I do. I probably wouldn't. Well, what would I do for 18? There's a long list. Anyway, just continue.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Yeah, be a short of list what I wouldn't do for 18 million, but. Yeah. I can't even think of one. I left your little space there. Couldn't think of one. All right. The local Charlotte media found out about the heist on the Monday, two days afterwards, and the FBI came forward and named their nation wine.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Named their nation. They released a wine? What an inappropriate time. Come on guys. There's crimes to solve. I was on the prize, fellas. And ladies. I've called this press conference to announce a beautiful range of Saviom Blonde.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And check out these sandiavazi. And any updates on the case? On the rosé, yes. On this case of rosé. You'll note hints of strawberry and gooseberry. But the big heist, anything on the heist? Well, yes, if we do find the person who stole this money, they will be able to buy nine million bottles of this deliciously cheap wine.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Deliciously cheap. It's two bucks. $2 a bottle. How quick was at maths? That's real quick. I'm getting so much better. I've been doing that. Just the calculator Perkins.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Some mental exercises. Really? No. I thought I'd do that. What'd be impressed? Yuck, Dave. I don't want to improve myself. I'm perfect.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Perfect Perkins. Once they announced their wine, they also announced and named their nationwide manhunt, which they called Operation Charlute, which I can only assume came from the FBI's pun department. Charlotte. Because they're in Charlotte looking for a loot. Don't know if I have to explain it? I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:32:28 You did? Because I missed it. Oh, really? I was like, Jess is going to shoot me down for explaining this, but just in case. And then you're like, no, good one. I forgot they were in Charlotte. They don't normally do that, girl. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I reckon one of them just thought of it and they thought it was so good. They just had to go with it. You'd think that'd be something like the media would come up with, but it's so good that it's coming from the FBI. And if the media calls it anything else, they're like, come on, guys, please. A bit of consistency across the board. It's just Charlotte. I watched a documentary on this and it was like, now the FBI had a super catchy name.
Starting point is 00:33:03 That's so good. They were ready to find their guy. It's the first thing you need in crime fighting. There was a, I think catchy names are important. I saw a good one this week. Geraldine Quinn, a local comedian. She posted this thing. She was at the swimming pool and they're doing.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Pilates at the pool and they've called it Pool L-L-L-L-A-T-E-S. Yes. But it's spelled like P-O-O-O-L-A-T-E-S. Like, it reads as... Poo-L-L-L-A-S. That's Poo-L-L-A-S. That's Poo-L-L-A-S in the pool.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Keep your Poo-Lardis out of the pool. Yeah, stop pooing in pools. Oh no. It's not the done thing. Anyway, it's apparently good for your health, so good for your core. Poo-L-L-L-L-L-E's. That's cool, though. Pilates in a pool.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Yeah. Just need a maybe a... a little rebrand. Yeah. A hyphen had solved that, I reckon. Imagine Operation Poo-Larting. If we ever get a chance, we've got to try it. We're going to try and get one happening.
Starting point is 00:34:01 All right, so Operation Charlotte is in full effect. The FBI was still unsure if David was involved or coerced to rob the vault. Even if he was involved, they were still concerned for his safety as he's missing. If he was working with other thieves, perhaps one of them could have knocked him off. Because he's not a hardened criminal. Maybe he'd been taken in by some other hardened criminals. They were worried for his safety. Some badies.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Some bad boys and girls. The FBI interviewed over 100 people in the first 48 hours after the crime and then started delving into his past. A lot of people characterized him as a bit of a loner. But he seemed to have one friend at work. Her name was Kelly Campbell. She'd worked with David at Loomis for years before leaving the job about one year earlier. other colleagues said that they often seen him joking around,
Starting point is 00:34:52 went out for lunch together and sometimes even hung out outside of work and were still in contact since she left. So they were like, what's the word? Friends. But they were like, you know, I just don't think he'd have friends. Right. So no one wanted to use the word friend with describing it. I think we all know someone like that, don't we?
Starting point is 00:35:12 Yeah. Someone who it's like, oh, he doesn't have friends. Look to your left, look to your right. And if it's neither of them, it's Dave. I'm sitting in a corner and I can't see anyone on my left door. Oh, no. This happened again. Nah, Dave, we're your business acquaintances.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Thank you so much. 33% each. And I'm 34. Yes. Other colleagues, yeah, said that they were friends and they still were in contact even since you left. But when the FBI interviewed Kelly Campbell, she denied that they were ever even friends. Oh. Which is a bit of a slap in the face.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah. What a bad. bitch. It didn't really add up when contrasted with other people's description of them. So the FBI were a little suss. She went a little too hard on the, I don't know, I, nah, never met him. I don't like him. He's terrible.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Okay. If anyone's about to commit a crime out there, you can't just lie about a thing that everyone else can disagree with. Yeah. We saw he had lunch with him every day. Nah, wasn't me. Who? Someone else.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I look like another worker there. His name's Brendan. We just look so similar. Old Brendan and I. All right, we'll go check out if there's a Brendan who looks like you. No, don't do that. Don't do that. Brendan's disappeared.
Starting point is 00:36:28 He's dead. And then I told the boss to pretend he never worked here for legal reasons. He's disappeared from the present and also from the past. He's gone. I scrubbed his name from history. I cancelled him. He did things. It was a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:36:42 We're not allowed to talk about him anymore. Don't give him the energy or oxygen. Fuck you, Brendan You know who you did She's really doubling down No, he's cancelled You can't talk to him Don't
Starting point is 00:37:00 Don't give him the time of day Would you have an address with this Brendan Canceled Cancel him Yeah One two three Canceled street Cancelton
Starting point is 00:37:10 Don't talk to him He's a dick You'll hate him He's such a bad guy He smells as well Yeah, he smells really bad Oh yuck Have you got gas masks
Starting point is 00:37:20 You'll need it If you were going to talk to him Which I don't reckon you should Because he cancelled He can't talk anyway Because of what he did Yeah Don't worry, he deserved it
Starting point is 00:37:32 Don't arrest me Thank me Yes I'll have a medal of honour Thank you Now go Please leave Please leave I'm playing Scrabble online
Starting point is 00:37:44 I haven't played a word for a few minutes Someone might leave the game And I'm really up I'm winning a lot I'm up by 15 points I've never beaten this person in it before And scene Alright
Starting point is 00:37:56 Such a rich character Wow Kelly Campbell Yeah She hates Brenton She loves Scrabble Oh god What a backstory
Starting point is 00:38:06 48 hours after the crime The stolen unmarked Lomis van was found Near the woods less than 10 miles from the scene of the robbery. Okay. Completely abandoned. When they finally were able to break into the van because it was locked,
Starting point is 00:38:20 they found, and it was a bulletproof vehicle, so it was really hard to get in. They found $3.3 million of cash still inside. It was all the lower denominations, one and $5 bills, and it was assumed that the robbers had either run out of room or run out of time to take all the cash. I think they were just leaving a tip. Thanks for the work. A big tipping culture in America.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Yeah, they're like, oh, About, we got to factor in, what, 10% of the bill? 15% of the bill, is about right? They're generous. We're millionaires we can afford it. Also inside the van was Gant's work issue pistol, the vault keys and the two missing security tapes. So they obviously watch the tapes.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And on the tape, David can be seen doing a little celebration dance after loading the final money into the fan. That's cute. They were now pretty certain he might be involved. Unless the guys, all girls telling him to do it, like, now dance. Dance, piggy. Wear the death. Put on the mask and dance for me, Daddy.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Is that right? He danced. He danced a lot. So the FBI hoped that David Gant would contact his wife or family, and Special Agent Dick Womble was charged with keeping in close contact with him. Is anyone keeping track of the Great Dan? because that deserves to go straight to the leaderboard. Dick Womble.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I bolded it and capitalised it. Dick. Dick Womble. Special agent, Dick Womble. Special agent, Dick Womble. I mean, just special agent Womble is good. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:39:56 And then you, like, it'd be funny if you work with him for a while, you just call him to specialize it Womble. And then you find somebody calls him Dick and you're like, oh my God, he's name's Dick Womble. Because I assume he's name is Richard. And there's so many things you can do with Richard. You can be Richard. Rick. Richie.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Rick. Don't go for Dick. Does anybody go for Dick these days? I just think that he has such a great sense of humour or someone who, his parents, named him legally, Dick Womble. You can change that. I reckon that could be the best. Do you reckon that's top five?
Starting point is 00:40:24 I reckon that's top five. It's got to be up there, yeah. I'd love to see someone put together at least if anyone has the time. Dick Womble is fantastic. Sadly for Dick Womble, his family didn't hear from David. I didn't have to mention this, but I just wanted to say Dick Womble for the tape. I also think that it's almost It's almost too good
Starting point is 00:40:44 That it's not that good again Because it feels made up It feels like something You know what I mean? I don't believe a real person came up with that name I think he knows he's being funny Dick Womble Every time he hands over his FBI badge
Starting point is 00:41:00 To prove who he is And someone goes, hey no this is my jurisdiction Get out of here He says, I'm Dick Womble And they say right this way, sir Yeah. You don't steal shit from Dick Womble. The case was due to air on the popular show America's Most Wanted,
Starting point is 00:41:17 and the FBI all gathered around to watch the TV show and stood by the phones as they expected to light up once the tip-off had it aired. Because that's basically the point of that show. They put out a crime and say, if you've seen this man, call us now. So they were ready. But sadly, the baseball ran long that night, and the East Coast aired the baseball instead, and a lot less than expected, we're able to watch the show.
Starting point is 00:41:40 In a reenactment I saw on the Discovery Channel, the FBI agents are all eating Chinese takeaway, and then one of them throws their fork at the TV in protest when the baseball stays on. It is great acting. Very good stuff. Wait, so this has been reenacted. I thought you're talking about the America's Most Wanted reenactment,
Starting point is 00:41:59 but there's a reenactment of people watching a reenactment. No, it's a reenactment of them being disappointed that they can't watch the reenactment. And then they throw off. A fork at the TV. A plastic fork? Oh yeah. Oh, thank goodness. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:42:11 The classic reenactment thing at a dinner like that, someone will wipe their face with a napkin and throw it on the table. Did anyone do that? Yeah, was there any of that? Oh, yeah. A lot of people are there. Any slamming fists on a table? Yeah, a lot of a lot of rolling of the eyes.
Starting point is 00:42:30 A lot of hands on hips looking exacerbated. Harumphs. Oh, were there harrumbs? Yeah, and then they all yelled, out of order at the TV. Wow, they were angry. Well, they were pissed off because, yeah, no one saw their most wanted episode,
Starting point is 00:42:46 which basically was, they were hoping would get this guy's face out there. Could they not just like watch it on the internet later? Yeah. Do you know? It's like, what, you don't have reruns? Yeah, it is weird that it, yeah, there was no ad break or anything.
Starting point is 00:43:00 How long it, it's like, anyway. It's obviously a good reason for this. Couldn't play it the next night. Yeah. It may have been repaid. And it was shown on the other side of the country, but they obviously won't the east. What side of the country did it occur on? The East Coast, yes, which is where they wanted people to see it, and that's where the baseball ran along.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Who won the game? Baseball was the winner. And the FBI was the loser. To try and get some leads going, Loomis Fargo themselves offered half a million dollars for any information that could lead to the recovery of the money, and people were asked to keep an eye up for anyone who had suddenly seemed to come into a lot of cash. Oh, jeff. You didn't get the charlute, but coming to cash, that meant somebody straight away. All right, you're going to have to explain it to Dave.
Starting point is 00:43:52 He didn't. Just imagine someone standing over a pile of cash. Wow. See, this is where you two have got black spots in your vision. Dave's black spot is full of cum. I don't know. Having so much money that you're like, I got jizz on this and it doesn't even matter. I'll just throw it out.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I'll just throw it in the fire. Oh, no, that'll smell bad. Oh, I don't do that. Chris, what are you doing? Brendan told me to do it. He's such a perv. That's a niche. It's a fetish.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Niche fetish. And we're not fetish shaming. Setting your sperm on fire after coming on money. That's niche. US money. US, yeah. Australian money, that'll smell like plastic. That does not get me going.
Starting point is 00:44:38 So the best one to do. do it, I would be dong. I'm sorry I did this. A man named Eric Payne was dobed in as having spent a lot of money that seemed out of character. Eric Payne also a great name. P-A-Y-N-E?
Starting point is 00:44:52 P-A-I-N. No, actually no, it is P-A-Y-N-E. I've just misspelled it the first time. It is P-A-Y-N-E. And Eric Payne is good, yeah. He brought the pain. Brayne-Pain. He was dobed in as having bought a Chevy,
Starting point is 00:45:03 like a truck Chevy. Like the idea that someone just going to cash. I just bought a car. Yeah. You're a suspect, yeah. It's a bit suss. You don't look like you get a full car. He bought an expensive Chevy.
Starting point is 00:45:15 So he bought an expensive Chevy. A Harley and first class tickets for a sweet vacation in the few days since the robbery. He'd also been seen partying a lot and had bought breast enlargements for both of his sisters. Oh. I thought that started off bad. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, creepy if it was for his wife. Well, he bought his wife breast enlargements and paid for her to have a number.
Starting point is 00:45:39 nose job. Is she asking for any of this? Are his sister's asking for this? That might be one of the last people I would want to give me money for that. That is so strange. This sounds like it's Biff Tannen in the weird future timeline of Back to the Future 2, where he's bought Marty's mum breasts. She goes, you paid for these, you can have them.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Yeah. Wow. This is that guy. It does sound like who's based on Donald Trump. For his sisters. Payne explained to his friends that the influx of money was from an inheritance, but whoever dobed into the FBI didn't believe him. I mean, that is just such a weird thing, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:46:17 The FBI got hundreds of tip-offs like this, but when they investigated pain, it wasn't just the strange behavior of buying your siblings' breast implants that stood out. He worked at a graphics company. It was also the breasts themselves. Yeah. Whoa, they stood out. They botched the nipples bad. Boshed.
Starting point is 00:46:37 That's such a good word. He worked at a graphics company just across the street from where the abandoned van had been found. Oh, that's a bit dumb. When they looked into his spending. Working across the road from there. Yeah, don't work across the road from anything. Idiot. Especially the scene of a crime.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Come on, my. They discovered that he'd paid for the Chevy in $20 notes. So they were like, this is all being a bit sus. But he wasn't the only one exhibiting strange behavior when it comes to spending. In nearby Gaston County, a man purchased a $600,000 home and paid cash. $600,000 home in cash. In cash. And this is US in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:47:20 So you're looking at close to a million dollars home. That would be a mention of. It's a million dollar home. Absolutely. The man was Steve Chambers. Not a good name. He'd gone on an absolute spending spree. He paid cash for a truck, bought a new convertible BMW, a Rolex,
Starting point is 00:47:36 spent $900 in tips in a single night and bought lots of art including a velvet portrait of Elvis Presley. Okay, these guys don't sound super smart. No. Also, a velvet portrait? That's fun. Why, surely blue suede. Oh my God, yes.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Yeah, I'm thinking like how dumb to so obviously flaunt all your money, but maybe these are the guys who did it so that that is now an obvious rule not to it. Oh, I see. But why buy two cars? That's what I'm thinking. It just, yeah, it feels like people are going to ask questions. Well, you know, they're asking questions because before the house, Steve and his wife, Michelle, lived in a mobile home and had been unemployed for two years. Right. And suddenly they're buying the equivalent of a million-dollar mansion in cash. You'd think at the very least, you would, you would wait a while. And this is days after the ice had happened. The house he bought was in the tiny town of Cremerton, just out of
Starting point is 00:48:36 side of Charlotte. It had only 2,500 residents and has the Guinness World Record for the shortest main street in the world at only 75 feet. So it's a really, really small town. They bought in an exclusive gated community. That's 75 foot long subs. Whoa. Hang on.
Starting point is 00:48:54 That checks out. Thank you. Just had to carry the one. They bought in an exclusive gated community called Kramer Mountain. So there's your first problem. In a small town people talk and they notice. newcomers and in a gated community even more so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:10 So not a good choice. Michelle told her new neighbours that her husband, Steve, was a former pro footballer who'd played for the Dallas Cowboys and had since become a very successful professional gambler. And also sold laundromats in Texas. Okay. She's really flinging around the lies. Yeah, come on, mate. I mean, the gambling is fine, but it's pretty easy to figure out just by going to look at a book
Starting point is 00:49:34 if you played for the Cowboys or not. That's right. It's an audacious story and not many people believed her because the Dallas Cowboys... Read a book. They're such a famous team that even the most die-hard NFL fans had never heard of Steve Chambers. Yeah. So they were a bit like, oh, that's a bit weird. Michelle also paid for everything with packets of cash, which is very, very suspicious. Packets.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Hmm. Like chip packets? Yeah, filled with cash. That is pretty weird. She didn't have a wallet. just carried around a chip packet. No, they're wrapped in those little paper ties that hold wads of cast together
Starting point is 00:50:12 and then wrapped in big plastic blocks and she's just whipping those out at the shops. Oh my God. The mayor of the town, Kathy Miles, lived a few doors down in the gated community. So they've moved in three doors up from the mayor and she herself was supersuss and spoke to local police who at first thought that they must have been spending
Starting point is 00:50:30 newly acquired drug money. Oh, right. Obviously there's no paper trail for drug money, so that's where they've got this cash. Police looked into Steve's history and he had a criminal record for drug dealing and booky stuff, but nothing major, sort of fixing gambling stuff. Yeah, gambling gets broken sometimes. Someone's got to fix it. Right, someone's got to sell laundromats in Texas.
Starting point is 00:50:54 That's crazy. Eventually, though, the cops saw of the recent heist and alerted the FBI who by this time had hundreds, if not thousands of tip-offs. So you'd think if you'd rob a vault, you'd lie low, which is what you just said, Matt. But Chambers brought even more attention to himself. When he was kicked out of a local club for causing a disturbance when he got into a fight with his wife, Michelle, over her suggestive dancing. What was she suggesting? Then he bloody picks up with his socks and does the dishes once in a while.
Starting point is 00:51:23 It didn't take high on that. It wasn't so much a suggestion. It was one of those things where it's like, I'm suggesting, but really I'm telling you to do it. Right. She was literally spelling it out with her dance moves. Yeah, yeah. And he was like... D.
Starting point is 00:51:35 I. And so on. S-H-E-S. Oh, I was going to spell that dick Womble. What is incredible. He's on to us. We got to run. She's doing the Womble.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Sounds like a dance move. He's doing the charades. Sounds like. Fumble. As he was being thrown out of by security, he offered to buy the club for $400,000 in Cash. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:52:02 According to the Washington Post, they would also hire limousines to ferry their group of friends out to dinner at local restaurants. So they are not lying low. Right. They're flying high. They are. But it wasn't just Steve who was acting suspiciously. Oh, no. The FBI painstakingly also went through local banking transaction records to see if there was any suspicious activity after the heist.
Starting point is 00:52:24 They went through thousands of documents and two things stood out to them were marked why by bank tellers as suspicious. One of the incidents concerned Michelle Chambers, the suggestive dancer. She had walked into a bank the Monday after the highest and shown the teller a briefcase full of money and literally asked what the highest amount of money she could deposit without having to fill out any paperwork and create a paper trail. What's the best way I can launder this money? When the teller gave her a funny look, she then paused and said, don't worry, it's not drug money.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Fucking hell, Michelle. I winked at him. Yeah. Huh? The teller notices. She wipes like bits of coke off the money. It's like, it's fine, it's fine. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:53:07 That's, uh, bits of coke. It's not drug money. She winks, leans in and whispers, it's stolen from in a heist. You guys have a teller client confidentiality, right? Yeah. Well, she broke that.
Starting point is 00:53:25 because the teller notices that the money in the suitcase still had Lomis Fargo rappers on it. Oh my God, Michelle, you dumb shit. And she filed a suspicious activity report, which the FBI picked up on when they're going through all the records. We just got to take a second to think about that. You absolute dumb shit. Shows her a suitcase full of money with Lomis Fargo
Starting point is 00:53:45 written all over it and says, what's the highest amount you'll take of this without tipping anyone off? Don't worry, it's not drug money. You absolute dumb shit. Have I said that enough times? I love it so much. It's incredible. Wait, did she say this with words or with dance moves?
Starting point is 00:54:03 Yeah, she acted. Sounds like not drug money. So the FBI, we're pretty confident. Do you think dancing is charades? What do you think I'm doing on that dance floor? I'm spelling words. Mostly help me. Get me out of here.
Starting point is 00:54:19 These people are grinding a little too close for my life. Most people are cutting shapes, Dave, spelling words. I'm doing sums. One plus one. So the FBI were pretty confident that the couple chambers had the Loomis money. But sadly, they still couldn't prove it was the heist money. They started putting the couple under surveillance and noticed several trips to banks to make deposits or set up safety deposit boxes. So they were obviously ferrying cash to and from their house.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Local residents of the small town was suspicious of FBI cars that seemed to constantly be parked on their streets. and the FBI even employed a plane to fly over the chamber's house to watch their movements. And everyone in the town was noticing it. Is there not enough to search their place yet? No, obviously there isn't. No, because the money's not marked. Yeah, so they can't trace it. They'll be like, all right, we can take you for, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:14 we can arrest you for having, for money laundering, but we can't prove that this is all the money. And also they're worried that they don't have all the money. So if they arrest them now, they might find half million. bucks under their mattress or whatever, but the rest it might disappear forever. Right. So they're worried about it.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yeah, they do sound like they're smart enough to have a way of making the rest of it disappear forever. They come on it and then they burn it. So there's all these FBI cars parked out at the side of their house and there's planes flying overhead. But everyone in the town's noticing except Steve and Michelle, they were the only people who did not notice that they were being watched and they continued to spend all this money all under the watchful eye of the FBI.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Michelle bought a truck for a stepfather in cash, and Steve bought his wife a $43,000 diamond ring also in cash. Where do you go to buy that? Where can I, where can you, where, where? Oh, Angus and Coot? Bevels. Bevels. Is it Brevels?
Starting point is 00:56:13 Bevels. Bevels. Oh, that's right. Brevels make milkshake makers. Yeah, bevel. You're right. I bought a couple of rings. A couple of 43,000 rings.
Starting point is 00:56:24 couple of discount rings in my day. For who? For good friends and acquaintances? Buying off cops. Buying them off? Paying them off. Don't you think it's weird to go, like, you and your wife have basically unlimited cash,
Starting point is 00:56:42 and he's bought her, like, does that mean anything? Yeah, I've got you a beautiful ring. Yeah, for her, like, she's like, well, you probably could have afforded a hundred thousand dollar ring. And I, so good I. This doesn't mean anything. We've stolen this money together.
Starting point is 00:56:57 At least let me pick it. That's so much money. Oh. Is it the thought that counts? I think then, maybe. Yeah. I thought about buying you a $43,000 in. And I did.
Starting point is 00:57:09 The FBI knew something was definitely up with their behavior. But even after this surveillance, they couldn't connect them to the stolen money or to David Gant, who they still didn't know where he was. There didn't seem to be any connection between the two parties. They couldn't work out how they'd even know each other. The FBI were getting dead.
Starting point is 00:57:24 desperate to make a connection between the two different groups and went through Steve Chambers' high school yearbook. Inside it, they found a picture of Kelly Campbell, David Gant's former co-worker that denied their friendship earlier on in the piece. Either this was an insane coincidence and David Gant's close friend also went to high school with this guy that was suddenly coming to lots of cash or things were slowly starting to add up for the investigation. The FBI again interviewed Kelly Campbell and she was the only one that's spoken to throughout this whole thing refused to take a polygraph test. She was standoffish and nervous when talking to the officers.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Meanwhile, our football player turned gambler Stephen Chambers and his cash depositing wife, Michelle, bought a furniture discount centre in town. In cash. So now they're buying businesses. In cash. In cash. They named... I literally don't even buy coffee in cash.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I know. It's crazy. That's like $4. Yeah. And they're spending like hundreds of thousands. thousands of dollars in cash. Cash. Who can count that?
Starting point is 00:58:28 You've got to have one of those little Tick, ticot, tick, tick, ticot. Yeah, that's better sound. I love those things. I want one. You want to count your $4 for coffees? Yes. Hold on, just let me check.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I've got the right money. Yeah, and it's checked out. Do you know if in America, in North Carolina, do they, all these businesses and everyone who's collecting this money selling stuff, are they going to have to forfeit? that money at the end? You know, like this business, whoever sold the business.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Because it's stolen money. Yeah. I'm actually not sure. If you, I don't know if you can argue that if you don't, if you didn't know about it and it was, for you, it was genuine. Though, to be honest, a few red flags would be raised for most people when they rock up and just be like, I want this business. Here's $300,000 in a brown paper bag.
Starting point is 00:59:18 You'd be like, oh, okay. That's a little bit weird. They named the furniture shop after themselves and called it M and S Furniture Gallery. Oh my God. Marks and Spencer was born. I guess they didn't want to call it the S&M furniture gallery. Did you write that? You wrote that joke, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:59:37 Yeah, that's good stuff. That's good stuff. Don't call him out for writing jokes, Jess. No, you're right. That's admirable. Good job. I thought it was funny if it was written or if it wasn't. Why didn't you laugh?
Starting point is 00:59:51 Yeah, no one loved. Why didn't you laugh? I'm the only one laughing. You said, I thought that was very funny. That's what you said. To be honest, that's pretty good from that. I thought I did. I thought that was very funny.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Talking about the Symphony and Metallica album in that way, I thought it was very good. That's true. That was definitely what I was referencing. Then they really slipped up because Michelle was... Oh, finally, they'll really slip up. She was seen with Kelly Campbell at the furniture store. Oh my God, Michelle, you...
Starting point is 01:00:22 Stupid woman. Kelly Campbell drove up in her own brand new spanking minivan. And when the FBI looked into the license plate, the van was registered to a known alias of Steve Chambers. So he'd obviously bought it and given it to her. So you can buy any car and you buy a minivan. Yeah, you'd get a proper size van. Get a van.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Get a full van. Steve, your tie-up. Get a Hummer. You just bought his wife for $43,000 ring. You can't buy a minivan. It was actually a mini-ring. Throw a toe, it was a tow ring. I said tow bar.
Starting point is 01:00:57 I wanted a tow bar. I wanted a $45,000 toe bar. I want to pull a boat with this mini boat with a mini van. Oh, they now had a solid connection between Kelly Campbell and the chambers. So they all know each, at least those two know each other. This whole time the chambers kept spending and depositing cash. She even handed, this is Michelle, even handed in a packet of cash wrapped in money bands to the bank. one of them was from Loomis Fargo
Starting point is 01:01:23 and had been signed by a Loomis employee and could be traced back to the vault that had been ransacked. Whoopsies. So now they had evidence that she is spending money from that vault. They could arrest her
Starting point is 01:01:34 but they decided to step up their surveillance to try and catch all of the suspects and also reclaim all the money. Take the little paper tags off. Honestly, that's all she had to do. Just do that. And I'm an idiot and I thought of that. I'm guessing, well, I mean,
Starting point is 01:01:49 you are hearing this in the context. because it was a big crime. They obviously get caught because you know about it. Almost thought for a second that you were going to argue the point. Yeah, okay. Dave, I got more of a laugh out of him. Because you said something funny. You didn't even have to write it down.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Esson Am, that's good stuff. That's good. I love it. They've got like the call of the Kudaloo. That's what I said that. I've never tried to say that out loud. Instant regret. Was that a Metallica song?
Starting point is 01:02:19 The call of the Kutulu. It's a cover that they opened Symphony and Metallica with. It doesn't matter. It almost does not matter at all. Nothing else matters, I guess, in the end. Is that another Metallica reference? Yes, it's also on that album. You saved it.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Thank you. Well done. Someone out there would have enjoyed that. Maybe. Probably not. A judge gave the FBI permission to tap the Chambers' phones, and they started listening in on their conversations. They heard Chambers calling different people about money,
Starting point is 01:02:48 including setting up a $2.5 million account in the Cayman Islands. He also spoke to Kelly Campbell, but sadly most of the conversations was inane and couldn't help them get a conviction. The FBI were about to abandon the whole plan and just swoop in and arrest them all when Kelly Campbell told Steve Chambers that she'd just heard from David Gant.
Starting point is 01:03:06 They now knew that Gant was still alive and that they were all working together. What? David Gant would send a code via a page to Kelly that indicated where and when he would call a payphone and that's how she spoke to him. Kelly Campbell told Steve Chambers where and when she would next speak to him.
Starting point is 01:03:23 David Gant, so the FBI tapped that pay phone in anticipation. It rang as expected, they were watching the pay phone, but Kelly never turned up to answer it. So an FBI agent ran out of a car, answered it, and briefly heard David's voice on the other end of the phone before he hung up. He was like,
Starting point is 01:03:39 hello? Gant's like, hello? The FBI guy was like, hello? David Gans, like, oh, and then he hangs up. That's all recorded. Yeah, they used the record. called it voice to
Starting point is 01:03:54 confirm, they listened to it over and over again. They were confirmed it was David Gantz and they're like, he's a lot. Wait,
Starting point is 01:03:58 what you just said happened actually happened? Oh yeah. Look, I'm paraphrasing there. You're paraphrasing, hello. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Yeah, it definitely said hello. And then David Gant said hello. And then when you realized the other end of the phone, it wasn't Kelly, he hung up quickly. Why didn't Kelly turn up unless she was watching
Starting point is 01:04:16 the telephone box to see if they were being, like, I don't think she was watching. She wasn't that. No, none of these people are smart enough to think that anyone's onto them. They think they're nailing it. In their minds, they're millionaires and they've gotten away with it.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I think everyone else, like I once had to take out a couple of grand to go pay for flights in cash to head to London years back. And crossing the road from the bank, it would have been like a 200-meter walk. I just felt like everyone's watching me because I got two grand in my pocket. I'm the same time you have any amount of money. He's just like, is you looking at me? Yeah. Is he going to jump me?
Starting point is 01:04:55 Oh, no! It's so scary. I hate it. Yeah, but these people are, they don't give a shit. But I suppose, like, if you've got 20 grand in your bag and someone steals your bag, you're like, well, I'll just go home and get another 20 grand. Yeah. Ah, well.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Get one of my other 20 grand bags. Chip packets. So I'll get the salt and vinegars today. Pink means salt and vinegar and 50 mil. Not quite right, is it? 50 Gs. There we go. The FBI continued to monitor the group's phones and Kelly told Steve Chambers
Starting point is 01:05:28 that David Gant had asked her to send him more money because he was now running out, which blew the authority's minds because they thought that he had millions of dollars. But he on the phone had said, apparently, can he send me some more cash? Oh, how quickly are they running out of it? So is Gant's asking for it? Yeah, Gant has. So he's like the one that they don't know where he is. All they know is that they hear from Kelly say to Steve, hey, he needs.
Starting point is 01:05:52 more money from us. He's running out. And they're like, what the hell? He's a millionaire. The FBI are or the... The FBI are, yeah. Steve Chambers then said that they had to get rid of Gant once and for all. They had to put their plan
Starting point is 01:06:08 to eliminate him into action. He was only going to keep asking for money. And also, he was the only person that could connect them to the crime. They didn't know where David was. So the next time David rang, Kelly asked where he was. She said, basically, tell me where he are so we can send you more money and then stay there.
Starting point is 01:06:26 And he told her that he was in Cozumel in Mexico and he was overheard telling Kelly that he loved her. Oopsies. Steve Chambers then hired a man called Mike McKinney and asked him to take a few friends down to Mexico to kill Gant at that location. The FBI were now in a race to find David Gant before the assassin did. Five months had now passed since the highest by this point and the FBI sent three agents down to Mexico.
Starting point is 01:06:54 They knew where Gant was and they got to him first. They found him in Mexico and asked, on the street, they asked him for some ID. And his response was, please tell me, you're an FBI agent. Oh, wow. He told them that he was really glad to see them and that they really needed to talk about some things. Gant was arrested and taken back to the United States. Please tell me you're an FBI agent.
Starting point is 01:07:16 He was actually relieved that I think he was thinking that he was in trouble with others. So he was like, oh, at least I'm safe. So Gant told the FBI exactly how the heist occurred, which is quite interesting and ridiculous. Yeah. He told how he met Kelly at work and that the two had become close friends over several years.
Starting point is 01:07:37 One day when they were hanging outside of work, she asked if he'd considered robbing Lomis Fargo. And if he did, she had a friend that could help them hide the money before they could split it three ways. She hinted to him that if they stole the millions, the two of them could live together. Oh, Kelly. At first he thought he was joking and mucking around,
Starting point is 01:07:56 but he started to take it more seriously when he got his credit card statement and calculated that it would take 30 years of his monthly repayments to fully pay it off. Oh, okay, so it's a fair debt then. Fair debt, or he's making shit all money. Yeah, probably a little bit of both. It's probably like a medium debt, but he's just not able to put it into it. Yeah, and at such a high interest rate that he just can't keep up. I reckon if you're paying people to be responsible for looking after millions of dollars,
Starting point is 01:08:20 can you pay him a living wage? So they're not tempted to steal your fucking money? Literally standing in a room full of $17 million every shift. And he's getting paid not enough. Like that is heartbreaking. You could just take $100 bucks like every shift. Yeah, I read he was getting paid like $7 or $8 an hour or something. What the fuck.
Starting point is 01:08:37 And he was doing 60 hours, 70 hour weeks and still not able to pay off this credit card. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah, that's a good point. Don't tempt them. And this calculation he made about the credit card was in September the month before the heist. He rang Kelly and told her that he was in. That's when he decided. Kelly was the middlewoman acting between David Gant and her old school friend Steve Chambers. The two men never met or knew each other's names in order to stop at them implicating each other
Starting point is 01:09:04 when one of them was caught. Steve Chambers put together the rest of the crew. He got his cousin Scott Brent and his high school friend Steve Payne and offered them a hundred grand each to drive one of the vans and to help hide the money after the heist. Sounds like, you know, they're not knowing each other's names to stop them implicating each other. That's the first really smart thing. Yeah, that's the only smart thing so far, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Oh, they're just rude. Yeah, I don't want to know him. I don't need to know names. He sounds like a dick. Better right, I don't know him. Yeah. He also got a fake passport instead of documents made for David Gant, so he could leave the country and get it to Mexico as soon as possible after the robbery.
Starting point is 01:09:47 David himself took stock of security and realized that he was often alone at the warehouse with all the money and that late one night he'd be able to quietly empty the vault using his own keys and that no one would notice until the next day. Another thing, don't leave one man in charge and no one watching the security cameras. Yeah, that seems dumb.
Starting point is 01:10:04 So dumb. A date was set and he thought he was all good to go until he realized that a trainee was scheduled to shadow him that day. Oh. He only found out as... he got to work. They're like, meet the, meet the trainee guy. He'll be following you all high.
Starting point is 01:10:18 He'll be at your shoulder. Everywhere you go, he'll go. Toilet breaks together. If you look to steal anything, he'll be there. Just joking, of course you're not. Why would you? What would you? But definitely toilet breaks.
Starting point is 01:10:33 You will take those together. We're not kidding about that bit. David had to tell the gang that he'd find a way to get the newbie out so he could be alone. So he didn't bail on the, on the, on the, mission. It was actually pretty easy. He pretended to lock the vault and then told the trainee that he could go and then he did because he was tired. David got into his own car, pretended to leave, but then went back inside the warehouse when the other guy reversed out behind him and left. So now he was alone with all the cash. He took a deep breath and thought about what he was doing.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Remember everyone had said that he wasn't brave enough to do anything like this. He realized as soon as he put $1 into the van, he couldn't go back. He later said, if you stole one dollar, he'd have to steal them all. And he did.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Wow. He started putting the money into the van, putting the shrink-wrapped notes onto a pallet mover, and then wheeling it over to a van. All the while, the other members of the team
Starting point is 01:11:26 were outside the fence waiting for him. It took a lot longer than expected, and it took several hours, but he filled the van up to the brim with money. The stack was four feet high and nine feet long. Wow. It's
Starting point is 01:11:39 It's a cash Unbelievable I'm in mind of it I love that they You know It took them several hours But they still had time To measure it
Starting point is 01:11:44 Yeah Hang on a sec Before we go Can we get a selfie with this cat I just want to make a note Of how tall and long this is Just thinking as well You know how the first
Starting point is 01:11:56 Anyone found out about it Was when His wife called the cops Saying he was missing And the cops Went there And realised it was gone If he told his wife
Starting point is 01:12:05 He said Told her he was going away or something. It would have bought them. Oh, and even bigger head start, you're absolutely right. Yeah, it doesn't even have to let hurry on the plan. Just like, I won't be home tonight or something. It would have been hours until someone rocked up for the next year.
Starting point is 01:12:20 It's pretty amazing that even there was so long for anyone to find out about it. No alarms. I know, it's $18 million and they just leave one guy who's been paid $8 an hour. And they're like, you're our guy. We trust you, your piece of shit. Obviously, we don't like your... respect you enough to pay you any decent amount. And also the boss just chewed him out like a month earlier about, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:43 be... Yeah, you'll never be a Volt supervisor. Yeah. So... There you go. He then took the two security tapes but had no idea that there was a third backup one. Clever to take the two. But yeah, you fucked up with the backup one.
Starting point is 01:12:58 He left one. He later said, I didn't even know about it. So now all he had to do was drive the van to sweet, sweet freedom. The only problem was he couldn't get through the gate. It was chained shut. and he just couldn't get it open. It wasn't locked, but the chain, he just couldn't get it off. A man ran up and started helping him,
Starting point is 01:13:13 and Gant thought he'd been caught, but it was actually one of his accomplices who was watching. He thought that only Kelly and the unknown Steve Chambers knew about the plan. So he didn't know two other guys had been hired, so he was a bit like, this is weird. Anyway, fine, help me, whatever. But that started making him a bit worried. He was like, how many people know about the plan?
Starting point is 01:13:32 That's not good. So they helped him through the gate. Once on the other side, Gantt drove to a car park, with the others they convoyed and he got out of the van and into a car with Kelly Chambers
Starting point is 01:13:42 he handed the keys to the Loomis van to yet another stranger and was like who the fuck are you yeah how many people are here anyway
Starting point is 01:13:50 all right Gann had only taken $30,000 of cash for himself and hoped to get his share of the loot later he and Kelly got into the car
Starting point is 01:14:00 and drove off to the airport wow behind at the car park was two vans the Loomis one and and Steve Chambers van. The plan was to unload the Luma's van
Starting point is 01:14:10 and put all the money into blue oil drums and then put that into the back of Steve's van. But there was a big problem. The key that Gant had handed the getaway driver was on an 8-inch key ring that contained over 200 keys and he'd forgotten to take note of which one was the correct key. And the van was locked.
Starting point is 01:14:32 So he had to sign. He frantically started trying all of the keys To get into the van. It's always the last one you try as well. Yeah. That's true. And when that wasn't fast enough, they tried to break the windows of the van
Starting point is 01:14:45 without realizing that it's an armored car and it had bulletproof windows. Oh, man. They were shooting bullets out of it and that seemed to be proof from them somehow. I just don't get it. I just don't get it. They went back to trying the keys
Starting point is 01:15:00 and finally it opened. It doesn't even have remote central locking. No, it's not. literally. And had 200 remote central locking beepers. I've seen a photo of the key ring and it is actually, it's like a comical prop with how many keys there are. It's so big. It is so big.
Starting point is 01:15:22 I always, I've played it with you. I always play that game with my brother when I, he's got so many keys on his key ring. And I was like, what's this? What's this? And he can name most of them, but he doesn't have 200 keys on them all. There's ones on one that I always. I wasn't able to name in that game. That's why I like playing that game.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Yeah, it just makes it into it. You go, yeah, how long has that been there for? He can go, but then you're too scared to throw it out. I'm pretty sure I've got a key on my key ring that I'm pretty sure is for a store I used to work at seven years ago, which doesn't exist anymore anyway. Like that door does not exist. So I can throw that key out, but I'm scared to. Yeah, what happens if somehow you need that to save a life one day? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:05 What happens then, Dave? Yeah, Dave, you're just going to let someone die because you wanted to throw out Jess's key? Yeah, it makes you handbag so much lighter. That's true. That's true. I'll throw up my car key as well and my car will just, it'll know to start.
Starting point is 01:16:19 It just knows. It knows. They finally got into the van and they filled the barrels of money but they had to leave behind the smaller notes. That's why the money was left behind. They ditched the van, but for some reason Steve dropped it off right near his work
Starting point is 01:16:32 and then they went and hit the money. I just cannot fathom that. than that. Why? I know a spot. Yeah, I guess you'd go to a place you know, but like, mate, it's like opposite you work. Go where you don't know. You know?
Starting point is 01:16:47 You've had weeks to plan this. Just go for a drive, find somewhere. Yeah. Don't drop it off at work. He parked it in his space at work. No, that's not true. But that would be wild. I'd be the last person that would put it here, right?
Starting point is 01:17:01 Why would I park it in my own car spot? Now where am I going to park? Huh? Yeah, huh? It's pretty dumb. It's a pretty dumb question on your part. Why am I sitting in the driver's seat? Yeah, great.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Great question. Where else would I be sitting? The passenger seat? And the driver of this getaway car. I know. I've said too much. I would like a lawyer. Well, over in the other getaway car,
Starting point is 01:17:25 Kelly and David weren't having a great night either. They drove to the Columbia airport with a plan of buying David a one-way flight to Mexico. I'm like, how did they drive to Columbia? But in America. Oh no, sorry, yeah, that's the name of the airport. It's a North Carolina airport, yeah, yeah. No one had bothered to look into the fact that Columbia Airport doesn't fly to Mexico or anywhere internationally.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Word. They're like, I mean, you can fly out of Dallas. That's kind of close to Mexico. Does you even look up flight times? Like, it's late at night at this stage. I know. You're just assuming you can rock up and there'd be a flight to Mexico. They should have pre-booked, but they didn't.
Starting point is 01:18:06 So he had to take a 200-mile bus trip to Atlanta and then fly to Mexico via New Orleans. That's cool. I'd be happy with that. Yeah, a bit of fun. In New Orleans airport, a woman came up to him and said that she recognized him. He started to freak out immediately thinking, what is my face ready out there? What's going on? And then she said, that's it.
Starting point is 01:18:25 You're Boris Becker, that German tennis player. I used to get boom-boom Becker when I was a little kid. Did you? Yeah, I looked like a little boom-boom. I think that's just like a redhead. That's your own nickname. Oh yeah, he was a redheaded guy with a beard. It's just red, yeah, just redheaded stuff.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Little boom, boom. It's pretty weird that he's trying to lay low on. So the first time I imagine it along the people's like, hey, I know you. I'm like, oh, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. And then she said, oh, I thought you would have had a bigger German accent than that. He's like, no, I don't think you know me. Nah, you're that German book. Nah.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Or should I say nine? In your language? Speak easy, Deutsche. He finally met it to Cancun. This is Boris Becker in Mexico. And started living the good life, spending lots of money on clothes, meals at all the best restaurants, hotels,
Starting point is 01:19:18 and something you'd always wanted but wasn't allowed to buy on his strict budget comic books. Cute. He's never contacted his wife at any stage either, has he? No. So she thinks he's disappeared or he could have been killed or something. She doesn't have him in five months. That's awful.
Starting point is 01:19:33 He started to drive. ran out of money pretty quickly living this lavish lifestyle. I remember he's only taken $30,000 with him. Yeah, only. It feels like, yeah, he could have made that stretch for so long, just living a pretty good normal one. Yeah, it would be fine. It would be fine, but he ran out, within like about two weeks or something.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Oh, my God. He rang to ask for more money and a man named... A.k.a. his money. Yeah, yeah. That's the sort of. I imagine that you're probably spending because you're thinking, well, in a couple of months, I'm going to have millions, so who cares? Because I trust these people I've known.
Starting point is 01:20:04 ever met that I've gone into criminal business with. Couldn't even name him. He don't crime business with them. He rang to ask for more money and a man called McKinney was sent to give him money and keep an eye on him before killing him. He didn't know that, but McKinney was sent to kill him. McKinney arrived with some money but only gave David $8,000. That was the first time Gantz started to realize that perhaps he was going to get double
Starting point is 01:20:26 crossed and get cut out of the loot. Ah, this is the first time he thought of that. Honestly, he asked for 50 grand and then the guy rocked up and said, that's what. all you got. He's like, eight grand, but this guy's a millionaire. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:38 He was like, oh, no, this isn't working out. Yeah, it's weird if they were trying to, why give him anything at all? It's also funny that he's kind of looked at his credit card debt and gone,
Starting point is 01:20:47 I can't pay this off, so I'm going to rob a bank so I can pay this off. But then he, like, leaves to go to another country and basically start another lot. Like, he's never going to go back, he's never going back.
Starting point is 01:20:57 So, like, why worry then? Oh, he's not worried about the credit card. He's just, he's going to live it up. A millionaire. on the beach in Mexico.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Yeah. So why are they giving him the $8,000? I don't get that. He's there to kill him. Why doesn't he just go and kill him? Just kill him. Or just give him $50,000 if he doesn't want to think anything's up. It just feels like it would be one or the other.
Starting point is 01:21:21 The way I see it, what I interpreted from it, which is no one said this in what I've read or anything, but the guy, McKinner that delivered him the money, I assume that he was probably given $50,000. Right. And then said, this is all they gave me and gave him. mate and just pocketed $40,000. And he's like, what are they going to do?
Starting point is 01:21:38 Yeah, I'm going to kill him. I'm also going to kill him, so who cares? Yeah, I wonder why he could have just given it to him, killed him, and then taking it back. Just don't give it to him. Just kill him. Yeah. Well, I bet he wishes he'd killed him right then and there. Then one night in Cancun, when he was staying, a man came up to him and said,
Starting point is 01:21:55 hey, you know who you look like and expecting him to say, Boris Decker? The guy said, you look like that guy that's wanted for the heist in North Carolina. And David... And he said, not... Nine. I is Boris Bicke. I is Boris Bicca. He has never...
Starting point is 01:22:13 He was caught in a... Off guard, was it? So he did a pretty weird accent. Don't blame him for that. No. He's never spoken with a German accent before. You want him to all of a sudden in a moment. Just nail it.
Starting point is 01:22:24 David, please. Just because you've got the blood of a German man. That's right. I do have the blood of the German. Well, he told him that he'd lived in Mexico for years. but was really panicked. He's like made up a little spiel. He was like, oh, no, do I look like a guy.
Starting point is 01:22:39 I lived here for ages. That's weird. Anyway. That's good, quick thinking. Do you want to get a selfie with Boris Becker? He's playing it so cool that he's like, taking photo with me. Show it to people. Tell him you saw me down here.
Starting point is 01:22:52 I'm Boris Becker. What are you a cop? I'd love it if you were. That'd be great. Please be a cop. Can you call the cops? That's why he said, I hope you're the FBI because I was trying to play it so cool. At the FBI, I hope you are.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Am I under arrest? I really hope I am, because I'm going to get out of this. Because I didn't do it. I'm Boris Becker. What am I talking about? I'm Boris Becker. Guys, I've got to be out before Wimbledon. Going to be out before Dick Wombleton.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Pun king. Wait, that is a pun? That is an absolute pun. You've combined Wimbledon with Dick Womble. What part of pun do you not understand? I just thought that was like a bad portmanteau joke, which I also hate. I love them. That's a, most portmanteau jokes are puns.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Oh, I see. Yeah, and I love a portmanteau. A punmanteau. That itself is a bad, bad punmanteau. So complex. He is the word to describe the word. Yeah. So complex.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Can I hear it in a sentence? Okay, great. Well, I feel like I still don't understand what puns are. Just keep, hey, just keep doing you and we'll let you know when it's... Yeah, we'll keep bringing the pun detector out. It is clear when I'm, that I'm ironically. saying these things, right? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:24:05 What do you mean? You love puns. I encourage people to go along to your Melbourne International Comedy Festival show for one hour of wordplay and puns. It's amazing what you can do by combining words together for comic effect. Yeah, you are, I would say, the pun king.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Pun king, as we've been calling you for a long time. There's a one portmanteau bit in there, but it's an ironic, and it's like you don't, Dave, you directed the show. Yeah, and I directed you to put more puns in it. ignored me. He said, how could I fit in more puns? I literally couldn't.
Starting point is 01:24:38 It's filled. It's filled to the broom. Which bits of puns? All of it. You know that bit about your beard? That's a pun. I don't want to give away me to you earlier. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Oh, this has blown my mind. Well, speaking of beards, David started thinking, oh my God, people are going to recognize you. So he shaved, changed his appearance and started only going out at night and wearing a hat. Very good. At night, suspicious. That is suspicious. I wouldn't have shamed it off my.
Starting point is 01:25:03 beard, I would have Craig David my beard. Oh wow. You would have walked away from it. On Monday, I would have taken it for a drink. Did you ask your beard what its flavour was? And I think that's all his hit. Tell me what's your flavour saver.
Starting point is 01:25:24 It's part of a beard. Is that a pun? Yeah. Is that a pun? Dave, he's wearing hats. It's night time. Oh yeah. A lady at the hotel.
Starting point is 01:25:33 tell he was staying out later record, he seemed to chain smoke in his room all day whilst listening to CDs of the Eagles. Nice. This is not the millionaire lifestyle he'd been hoping for. Still pretty rad. He's listening to CDs. It's fucking sick. One day a mysterious man came to the door and told him that the man that had previously
Starting point is 01:25:49 dropped off $8,000 to him and the people in North Carolina were trying to kill him. Whoa. David was surprised but instantly knew he was never going to see the millions of dollars and he'd better start moving around a bit if he was going to avoid getting murdered. He gave this guy a couple of thousand dollar tip for the information He only had eight Yeah And then the guy left and that's when he started moving around
Starting point is 01:26:10 Who was this guy? We never know Dick Wombleton We never know who Dick Wombledon if it was Dick He changed hotels after this But a large error on his behalf was thinking that he could still trust Kelly Oh Kelly
Starting point is 01:26:25 Kelly wouldn't be involved in any murder plot He thought it must be the other guy Trying to get rid of me So that's why he told her which hotel he was staying out. Fortunately, the FBI were listening in on that phone call and were able to get to him in Mexico before the killers.
Starting point is 01:26:39 When he was arrested, David Gang... The band, the killers? Branded flowers in the gang? That's even worse than a pun. It wasn't a pun? No. It feels the same. Comedically on the same level.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Yes. When he was arrested, David Gant was asked by an FBI agent what it was about Kelly that made him act this way. He said, can you believe this? I only kissed her once. Turned out to be a pretty expensive kiss, doesn't it? Oh. They put his sunglasses on.
Starting point is 01:27:18 They said, please take his sunglasses on. He said, turns out to be a pretty expensive kiss, doesn't it? And then put sunglasses on. Okay, that's the weirdest thing I've ever heard. It's a weird sentence. Is that literally what he said? Yeah. Turns out to be a pretty expensive kiss, doesn't it?
Starting point is 01:27:38 It does not make sense. Is it the doesn't that's bothering you? Yeah. Didn't it? Yeah. I guess that fixes it. If only you were there on the night, you're going to save David from quite a bit of embarrassment. This is so weird.
Starting point is 01:27:52 So he was just like, well, Kelly will be my girlfriend. Yeah, he was in love with her. Yeah, honestly, he was in love with her. That's so pathetic. Despite them both being married to other people, he was like in love with her. They'd never really obviously did anything together. She kissed him once and implied that they could live together when they got the money in.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Yeah, she meant like housemates. Yeah. Separate rooms, mate. Well, separate mansions that were connected by a bridge. Oh, the dream. That she could like bring up at any time. Yeah. A draw bridge.
Starting point is 01:28:20 When she was with another man. So that's how it all happened. Now the FBI knew everything. They quickly swooped in and arrested Stephen Michelle Chambers and Kelly Campbell, as well as a lot of other people. All in all, 21 people were arrested. Shit. The main gang members, plus friends and family of Steve,
Starting point is 01:28:40 who were arrested for money laundering. He had asked them to open safety deposit boxes in their own names and put his stolen cash in there for him, and they went to jail for that. Fuck. 20 pleaded guilty, and the one who pleaded not guilty was found guilty and was given a very harsh sentence. Shit.
Starting point is 01:28:59 It's a roll of the dice. They searched the Chamber's house and it took two full days to count the money using those money machines. And then you got one person just like, I'll just do this manually. A one. Let me just double check it. I don't trust technology. I've forgotten what I was up to. Hang on, I'm going to start again.
Starting point is 01:29:19 A one. It really feels if they weren't so silly, they weren't so loose with the cash, they probably wouldn't have been busted. Their behaviour was ridiculous. Oh, and this is another thing. Apparently Steve Chambers, when he organized the gang. He called it Steve Chambers gang. It's a good name. He said to the gang, hey guys, we've got to, after this,
Starting point is 01:29:43 don't do anything too crazy that will draw attention to us. He said that. And he's the guy that went out and bought a truck, a BMW, a Rolex, a diamond ring, all a house in $600,000 in cash. But he said to the other guys, hey, let's not go crazy. Yeah, be cool. Play it cool for a bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:00 And him and his wife are going around with the branding of the people they stole from. I think the money just went absolutely to their heads and they just lost the plot and just thought they were invincible. All up 88% of the stolen cash was accounted for, leaving $2 million missing. Well, that's not bad. To try and reclaim some of that in February 1999, over 1,000 items bought with stolen money was auctioned publicly. I would love to have gone to that. The Beamer was on display, all those trucks and stuff. The Velvet Elvis was.
Starting point is 01:30:30 the velvice. Oh, that is great pun work. Pondento. Do you get it now? Oh, that was a punmento. That was a punmento. That was a punmento. I hate punmento.
Starting point is 01:30:43 That's great. This auction raised $360,000, so I got a bit more of the money back. None of the six main accused had enough money to hire their own lawyers and were appointed legal counsel by the court. You imagine that? They were just like, can I just dip into the money I stole to get a good way? Hey, if you look under my mattress, you'll be able to pay my... Oh, hang on.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Oh, no, don't look under my mattress. That's still mine until I'm guilty, right? Michelle Chambers were sentenced to seven years, eight months in a federal prison. Steve Chambers got 11 years three months. So he's basically... Just give him years. Why are they months involved? Mike McKinney, who's the one that they'd hired to do the hit on David Gant.
Starting point is 01:31:29 He was given the longest sentence. 11 years, six months for conspiracy to murder. But surely, I mean, the others did all the other crimes plus pay to guide a murder. I know. It doesn't seem like much, does it? Kelly Campbell, the girlfriend that David thought he had, cooperated with authorities and received five years and ten months. For a time, it was nicknamed the Hillbilly heist
Starting point is 01:31:50 because nearly all of the major players in the case came from small towns around Charlotte. So they joked about their hillbilly background. Oh, no need to be bloody classless now, Dave. Having a good chuckle there from your bloody ivory tower And your affluent east What are you talking about? I'm quoting the Charlotte Observer. You were having a good old giggle.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Yeah, I don't respect hillbillies. Sue me. I will. I'll see you in court. See you in court. Well, I'll see you in federal court. You're out of order. No, you're out of order.
Starting point is 01:32:18 This whole goddamn system's out of order or something like that. No, fuck you. You cannot top a no fuck you. Legally, yes, fuck you. Oh, damn it. I was going to say case closed. Yes, fuck you. me.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Says the judge. There's a new player in this game. Finally, our main man that dared to dream, David Gant, went to a federal prison for six and a half years. He was released in 2004, but when asked if you do it again, he said, now that I'm sentenced, so like, you know, no one's asking him to behave well in front of a judge. He said, would I do it again? Yep.
Starting point is 01:32:54 An opportunity like that only comes around once in a lifetime. So, but you, but you fucked it. Yeah, but he's saying, I do it again. Probably differently, I guess. I guess he'd do it and not get caught. No, but, okay, no, what I'm objecting to is he's saying, I do it again. It only comes around once in a lifetime. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:14 There's a logic floor there. It won't come around again for you to do it again. No, but if you had your time again, if you could go back in that time machine, you're back in that, having that thought of if I put $1 in, I have to put it all in. Would he do it? And he actually would. Despite knowing. That it ended up pretty better.
Starting point is 01:33:33 I guess he had a fun couple of months, five months. Yeah, well, most of it was freaking out in Mexico. What happened to his wife? She divorced him. Funnel enough. After he went to jail. Won't stick with him. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:33:45 I see what's happening. Stand by your man. Dolly said it right. Oh, God, I love Dolly so much. If this story is bringing bells to anyone out there, maybe not you guys, but in 2016, this story was the basis of a comedy film masterminds. starring Zach Gellifanakis as David Gant Kristen Wiggas
Starting point is 01:34:05 Kelly Campbell and Owen Wilson as Steve Chambers That's a great cast Yeah I haven't seen it That sounds like something I'd watch on a plane Yes it seems like a plane movie to me too It didn't get great reviews And it was a real comedy take on this already funny heart So there's a lot of exaggeration in there
Starting point is 01:34:20 But that's the loose The loose basis To promote the film David Gant Who was on set for the film They invited him out And he met Zach Gellifanakis And all that sort of stuff David Gant had an AMA or asked me anything on Reddit
Starting point is 01:34:33 and I thought I'd finished with a couple of questions Yes People said Has this affected your ability to get a job Being a quasi famous bank robber and all And he said, good question Oddly most employers are very understanding As long as you are honest with them up front
Starting point is 01:34:48 Now he works in construction Well you can't steal a building, can you? He also said Once you tell most people First of all they don't believe you But then they also go if I had the shot to steal $17 million, I probably would as well. So people...
Starting point is 01:35:04 Who is he hanging out with? Hey, if I had the chance to do crime, I probably would too. I mean, you've got a chance to do it anytime. I think that's what people got to understand is. You've got to believe in yourselves more. There's always opportunities to commit crimes. I could bash Matt with a chair right now. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:35:22 You're not going to get money for that. I don't want money, but it's a crime. I'll pay you $70 million to do that. To bash you? Yep. All right. Pick a chair. Which one do you want to break your skull? Is that a character from one of those shows with the little animals?
Starting point is 01:35:41 Piccature. Picature. Okay, yep. Pick a chair. Dave, can you edit out of all of the... AMAs, AMAs. Any of the things I've said today. Could you just have to be out of this episode?
Starting point is 01:35:48 I want to leave that in there because you need to learn. No, please take that bit out. He has to learn. That was worse than even the bad bits. That was meant to be bad, but it was worse than that. So bad it was real bad. Yeah, it's a fine line. It went all the way around from so bad it's good,
Starting point is 01:36:04 back around again to just so bad. He was also asked, how much money did you make off the movie? And he said, I didn't get money for this. What I got was a great vacation and a chance to tick something off my bucket list. I know that it isn't exciting to most people, but I, regular Joe, had the chance to be on a movie set. Who wouldn't want to do that?
Starting point is 01:36:23 Plus, the food truck was awesome. My wife called me a hobbit for having second breakfasts. I got remarried. Yes, he also revealed, I just want to quickly say that, it didn't give him any money because I think he's not allowed to profit from crime. Right. But the highlight for him was that there was a food truck there. He's a simple man.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Food is famously good on shoots. On sets, yeah. Yeah, Hollywood stuff too. I imagine it would be really good. So yes, he also revealed that he asked for anything that since getting out of prison, he's remarried and has a child and is much happier now than he's ever been. Oh, that's great. So it all work out well for him.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Yeah, he said he's much happier now in his 40s than he was in his 20s, that's for sure. I've linked all my sources, including the Reddit AMA. There's lots of questions that he answered if you're interested. Brilliant. Link below. And I've also got to give a big shout out to that. I made fun of the acting in it before, but there's a great doco that was made on the highest by the Discovery Channel.
Starting point is 01:37:19 In 2001, it's an episode of the FBI files titled The Unperfect Crime. And you can watch it on YouTube, and there's a link to that as well. Yeah, if you want a more serious take on it. Do we know what, did you say what happened to the mastermind? Do we know where he's at? Steve Chervo? No, Steve Chambers. He's been released from prison and the only thing I could find out about him was apparently
Starting point is 01:37:41 he claims to be a changed man. Right, thank God. Are he and Michelle still together? I'm not sure. I couldn't work that out. A bit of long distance, you know, he's in prison for. They also had kids too. They had two kids.
Starting point is 01:37:52 So that's hard, you know, both of them. They had two diamond-encrusted kids. Those kids had fillings that were just pure gold. It's really bad for them, but... Oh, yeah. They were like, do it, dentist. Golden baby teeth. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:11 That is not unhealthy. I love it. That is what I imagine is probably the stupidest bank heist of all time. I love it. That is amazing. I told you the Patreon people chose wise way. They always choose so well. I don't think he looked vaguely into it.
Starting point is 01:38:28 I was like, that sounds fun. A heist, yeah, yeah, cool, cool. I did not realize how. ridiculous it was. So yeah, to the people that voted for that, you voted for the right one. Yeah, well done. So fun. Amazing. And I'm glad. It sounds like David Hicks story ended well, because he, I think all these kind of stories, is that. David Gant, David Hicks suggested it. David Gant, sorry. All ended up well for David Hicks. Also David Gantt. David Gant, yes. He, um, David Garen's another David. He didn't work out well for him.
Starting point is 01:38:58 David Gant, Gant, stuff him. Because, yeah, that sort of character in these things, the sort of hapless guy who's been taking advantage of. He did seem a little bit like just trying to make the best of it. His version in the Colobomb House obviously ended. It was very sad ending. Yes. So this is a much nice way to finish him. It actually sounds like it turned his life around.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Yeah, that's right. He's happier now than he ever said. He's got a child, which he didn't have before. And a new wife who maybe he gets on with better, I don't know. So it's all worked out. And Loomis Fargo would have been insured for that. So really. Don't feel bad for them losing a couple million dollars.
Starting point is 01:39:33 They would have, you know, claimed that on insurance. That is just insane. I don't know how to feel because, like, he still did a crime, but he did the time when he deserves a second chance. Okay. Really convinced myself. Yeah, that was great. It was great to see.
Starting point is 01:39:51 I worked through that. So now it's time for that special segment of the show where we get to talk about one Patreon who's given us a factor quote or a question. One of the three. Can I just ask what the segment's called? Yes, you know it. It's called one of the three.
Starting point is 01:40:07 And this week I'm one of the three. That's quite good because it could refer to us as well. Yeah, well, there's three of us. One of us is diarrhea. Which one? You said you wouldn't tell anyone. Oh, oh, maybe it's two of the three then. Matt, you got diarrhea as well?
Starting point is 01:40:23 We all got the runs? Can we wrap it up because I have to go? Well, this week's fact quote or question comes from Maximum. million duke yes maximilian which is a fantastic name uh to give yourself a chance to be in the fact quote of question segment you've got to support patron on the patreon dot com slash do go on on the sydney shineberg level i believe is that right d'nbis absolutely right the sydney line deluxe package rest in peace that's right in memoriam of the great man and you as well as giving a fact quote of question you also get to give yourself a title and this week maximilian duke
Starting point is 01:40:59 has given himself the title of juice box evangelist in brackets, I need to be around more adults. Wow. Maximilian, you're a crazy guy. I guess this adds a bit more context. He says, so he's going for a question. All right. And as his tradition, I have not read this prided out, he writes.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Roats, writes. Did he write the word I write? He wrote, my son Jacob wants me to ask, who would win in a fight, the Greek gods or Patrick the Starfish from SpongeBob Square Pants? Wow. Patrick. A question that's been debated? Centuries.
Starting point is 01:41:46 I don't, I'm not super familiar with it. Hit me with some Greek gods. I get confused between them and the Romans. Zeus. I reckon, already. Aphrodite. Already you've probably got a win for the gods. Neptune
Starting point is 01:41:59 Pluto Wait I thought that were the Roman ones The planets were the Romans Oh it's hard to tell Because they've got the same gods Just with different names Yeah
Starting point is 01:42:10 Poseidon I'm giving the wind So you're saying I say Patrick I'm saying the gods So Dave you've got the deciding vote here Okay well I know that Patrick Seems pretty dumb on the show
Starting point is 01:42:22 Yeah but when he gets angry Is he a sponge He's a starfish? Oh no he says they're a starfish But he's not made of sponge. He's made of sponge cake. Oh. No, he's a starfish.
Starting point is 01:42:34 Yeah. And have you ever killed a starfish? No. No one can. It can't be done. Oh, that changes. So I guess your answer then, of course, is... Patrick would win because he just can't die.
Starting point is 01:42:46 Okay, well... Unlike Greek gods. Have you killed a Greek god? Yes, of course. They've got places like underworlds and stuff where they can go to, they're sort of dead, but they're always seemingly alive. That's why I stick with the gods. Anyway, he says, goes on to say, after you debate,
Starting point is 01:43:02 here are his thoughts on how this battle goes. Just a reminder, he is eight. I was going to ask how old is he. The son's thoughts, great. I like that to remind. I'm guessing at some point I knew that before, and he is now reminding me. The only, thank you so much, Maximilian Duke,
Starting point is 01:43:17 your bloody goddamn legend. He says, the only God that can come close to Poseidon, oh, the only God that can come close is Poseidon. I mentioned him. Good, I got one. Because he is the god of the oceans. But Patrick, being a starfish, can regrow any limbs that get hurt. Patrick would win by sticking to a spot on Poseidon's back that he can't reach and stay there long enough to cause a deadly infection.
Starting point is 01:43:45 So you two are right. I stuffed that up. Yeah. That is, I don't pick up mid-sentence. Wow. That is, I love that logic. I do too. That means he's like in grade two.
Starting point is 01:43:58 He's eight. He's grade two or grade three. Amazing. You're smarter than me and you're a lot younger than me. So many decades. Younger. Decades. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:44:09 I've been kind. I really do appreciate that. Thanks so much Maximilian Duke and of course your son, Jacob. Thank you, Jacob, Duke. The Juice Box Evangelist. And yeah, get out there and meet some adults. You know? Although your son sounds.
Starting point is 01:44:26 As smart as one anyway. Also, at this time of the show, Dave, we also like to shout out to some patrol. Oh, yes, that's right. If you want to support us on Patreon, you get all sorts of little rewards, including two bonus episodes a month, a certain level you can get those that no one else hears.
Starting point is 01:44:47 And usually it's one report a month. And we say a mini report, but most of the time they go for an hour or more. So it's really longer than most other podcast's normal episodes, as well as something other fun, like a quiz or, you know, a Q&A, all sorts of different things. So two episodes a month. And also, yeah, shoutouts, little... Bums.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Yeah. Little bum. We give you a little bum. Why, what does that mean? I don't know. I don't recall that happening. Oh, we don't let you do it. Oh.
Starting point is 01:45:16 You can't be trusted. Yeah. Yeah, we just do all sorts of stuff, including, yeah, shoutouts, which we'd like to do now to thank some of the Patrons. Yes, would you mind if I kick her off? Please. That's right, now usually bop her. Yeah. Comes up with something, but have you got something?
Starting point is 01:45:34 No. If not, Matt, have you got something on? So we talked about heist. Maybe what they would do if they had $18 million. Oh, okay. Okay, that's good. Yeah, that's nice. I'll kick it off if that's okay.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Can I kick it? Yes. You can. Firstly, I love to thank you. from beautiful Sydney, Australia. Australia's biggest and most beautiful city on the bay with the bridge and the old opera house. Is that like a caveat? The most beautiful city on a bay with an opera house and a bridge.
Starting point is 01:46:11 No, Australia's most beautiful city full stop. Here's a few things about Sydney. I love that bridge. Oh man, love that opera house. It's Michael Nielsen. Michael Nielsen. Michael Nielsen. So you would need a lot of money if you want to live in Sydney, am I right?
Starting point is 01:46:28 17 million is not going to go very far out there. Not in Piper's Point. Or Point Piper, as it was. I don't want to go to the real one. They don't let me in there. Let me in. You stand outside. Let me in.
Starting point is 01:46:44 You literally probably couldn't buy a good property there for $17 million. Yeah, right. So what would Michael do with these money then? No, I'd invest. Yeah. In what? A vacuum cleaner company. Oh.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Really? Yeah. The Australian version of Dyson. Nielsen. Is Nielsen? Yeah, it could be Nielsen. So he'd invest in his own company. He creates a company.
Starting point is 01:47:06 All right, let's change it. The new game is, what would they call their vacuum cleaner company that they invest in? I hate that. And are they all going to be their Serno? You bloody got it, mate. Bada bing, butter boom. Nielsen, next. No, I wish you luck on that endeavour.
Starting point is 01:47:22 We've had a few people. people messaging the same, we've got to come back and do another live Sydney show too. Yes, we really want to do that. Yes, I'm sure we'll get back there this year. Yeah, yeah. But it's always nice for people to say, hey, remind us. What's funny, because I'm like, oh yeah, we should do that when people remind us. Yeah, honestly.
Starting point is 01:47:40 We should have a plan probably, but often it is someone messaging and we're going, oh, yeah, we should do that. I like it. Oh, yeah. Even though people messaged about Perth all the time, and we still have not done that, but we will. But if we get 1,000 more messages, we'll be there. Anyhow, thank you so much, Michael Nielsen. I'd also love to thank from Raymore in Moe, Minnesota, Millwall. Oh, right, I think you meant Moe.
Starting point is 01:48:06 I think that's place in Victoria. That's Moey. This is a douche. Come on, don't know. No, I wasn't giving you. I thought you'd mispronounced it. I've spent a bit of time with Moe. I think Moe might be Missouri.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Missouri. But look it up. Where the Ozarks are from. Yeah, look at it. up. It was a little bit of the Ozarks about today's episode. I was thinking, like just the stealing money and laundering and stuff. You watched any of the Ozarks?
Starting point is 01:48:29 Yeah, yeah, so the first. Ozark, I should say. Second season is pretty good as well. Looking forward to the third. I haven't watched it. Oh, cool. It's, uh, yeah. I refuse.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Jason Bateman. Is he also directed? Is that right? He directed the first episode of race and I think others as well. You are correct. It is Missouri. Well done. Missouri.
Starting point is 01:48:47 I'll be cold in the ground before I recognize Missouri. I wonder if Boyd Kemper from Raymore went to Missou State, which is the uni that they're trying to get to, one of the kids in Ozark is trying to get to. All right, and if he didn't go, he could spend some money to get him in there because I hear that's all you have to do these days in America, is throw cash and then your child can go to any university.
Starting point is 01:49:13 That's right, especially if you're an actual. Topical material. From a month or two back? You do have your finger on the pulse there at the project. It's still big news, baby. Boyd Kempka. Thanks, Boyd. Thanks, Boyd.
Starting point is 01:49:29 And hopefully you spend your money wiser on that education. Yeah. Because that's what he's going to do? 17 million on a uni degree. Maybe not all of it. You can save some of it, but a large chunk. I have heard that their degrees are pretty expensive. Yeah, I hear that.
Starting point is 01:49:41 It's what, 200 grand for like a Bachelor of Arts or something. Yeah. Boyd Kempka. That's a great name. So good. It reminds me of Juliana Kupka, the... Yeah. ...of the sky.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Dave, would you like to thank some people? Oh, I would love to thank some people. And I would love to thank, first of all, from Gateshead in old G.B. Simon Flint. Simon Flint. That's a good name too. Yeah. That's very great.
Starting point is 01:50:08 That's a great British name. Hello, I'm Simon Flint. Welcome to my... I was really hoping that I would just like finish that sentence and it would give me the thing. Welcome to my tea. observatory. Yes. Is that what he's investing 17 million in?
Starting point is 01:50:21 A tea observatory. So what is it like a tea house down the bottom and then a giant telescope up top? Dave. Dave, I'll stop you right there, mate. It's self-explanatory. It's a tea observatory. Yeah. I don't.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Can you believe him? It's real weird. You are so embarrassing. So just to confirm it's a telescope up top and a tea house. I don't, I'm not dignifying. I don't even know if he's joking or what is going on. Is he doing a bit? Is this a bit?
Starting point is 01:50:44 Are you doing a bit? That's a good bit. Yeah. I'm doing a bit. It's very funny. That's a funny bit. Yeah, I love comedy. He's good at it. You had us for a second of that.
Starting point is 01:50:57 Yeah, yeah. I was just trying to think of a pun because I love him. Simon Flint. Is he saying his name back? Is that a pun? Yeah, Simon Flint is a pun. Yeah. Thank you, Simon.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Thank you. I'll see your tea is arbitrary and we know what that is, obviously. And look forward to patronising you. patronising you. I was being patronising before. Hello, I'm Simon Flint and welcome to the Tea Observatory and I probably didn't need to say no more. Probably didn't need to say no more.
Starting point is 01:51:35 I probably didn't say no more. That's Simon Flint's catch. Nobody ever let Simon Flint get that far into a sentence. So he just sort of gets really confused. They're normally observing tea by that stage. They're off. Yeah, so thank you to Simon. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:51:52 And I'd also like to thank from Yukon in Oklahoma. Yukon. Give me too. Mebo. I'd like to thank Lauren Roselle. Are we only allowing people with great names to be patrons? People often ask how long does it take to get read out. If you have a shit name, we'll never read it.
Starting point is 01:52:15 So stop pledging now. That is not true. No, that is not true. Start changing your names. We try and get you in the order that you pledge. Sometimes Patreon is a little bit weird with the way it orders the names. We will get to you all. We click a button at the top.
Starting point is 01:52:28 It sorts everyone by date and then spills out the occasional weird glitch of someone from a year earlier or later. It's real odd. But anyhow, we're on top of it. We understand computers. We go. What would Lauren be investing in? Let me look up. Yukon, Oklahoma.
Starting point is 01:52:45 What are they got there? Things to do in Yukon. What about Meatball sub? Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, they have a few things. They got Chisholm Trail Park. Tism? I got a Tizm park.
Starting point is 01:52:56 Sadly not. I told you hear what you want to hear. Sunrise Park. Did you say I've got beautiful eyes? You do, but that's not what I said. I don't know if you can set up a hotel there because the three-star hotel average is $151 there. But I reckon if you had a four-star hotel. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Let's go hog wild. Five-star hotel. Five-star. Why not? Why not? There's always, I mean, there's always a need for hotels. Yeah. You're always going to do well in that biz.
Starting point is 01:53:27 Especially in Yukon. Very cool. Thanks, Lauren. Yeah, good luck with the hotel. Invest your money wisely. I'd like to stay here at the Yukon Hotel. Oh, that's great. Would you need one room?
Starting point is 01:53:38 You can't. Give me two. It's a little act out there of what could happen at the hotel. Just loved it. The silence said at all. I don't get it. What's it from? Point break.
Starting point is 01:53:52 Ah, yes. I did see. I knew it and I couldn't. I knew it and I couldn't place it. Sorry, yes. Not Nick Nolty, the guy that... Garibusi. Now it's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:54:04 Ha ha ha ha ha. Give me two. Meatball. Why is it so good? It's so funny. The delivery is so strange. It's so good. Joke and I can thank some people as well.
Starting point is 01:54:18 That'd be the best. I'd love it. Please take us home with some classic names. We've had some good ones. I would like to thank from Las Vegas. Oh, it's not Brandon Flowers, is it? From the killers. Close.
Starting point is 01:54:30 It's Donovan Brown. Oh, wow. Brownie, the bass player. I reckon that he should put his 17 million on red. Oh, I would have said on black. Wesley Snipes style. I'd go half and half. Half and half.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Yeah. You're not familiar with the Wesley Snipes quote? He goes, always better black. and then he kills someone or something. That's a generational thing. Kids would quote that a lot when I was a kid. I reckon Donovan, you put half of it on black, half of it on red.
Starting point is 01:54:59 And then we'll come up sneakers. Well, that's the risk you run with gambling. Double zero. Oh no. The house always wins. But good only, Donovan, you took a punt. What I'd do is I'd put, If I had Donovan, I'd put half of it on black.
Starting point is 01:55:19 If you had Donovan, you'd put half of him on black. Half of it on black, half on red, and half on zero, zero. Of course. Can you do that? Can you bet on zero? Yeah. You get higher odds. You get 36 to 1, but it's really, but the chances of it are 37 to 1 or something.
Starting point is 01:55:37 Everything is just slightly out of whack so that they win. Like you double your money, but you've got just less than a 50-50 chance of winning. Because that's right, they spin it. thousands of times a day, which they do. Eventually they come out on top. So thank you to Donovan. And finally, I would like to thank from Eureka. It's the stockade.
Starting point is 01:55:58 In California. What? It's a Eureka in California? Apparently. I mean, it's not like they had a big gold rush or anything, is it? I'd like to thank Andrew Barney. Oh, yes. And he invests in children's entertainment.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Oh. Because of... Andrew. Because he's close to Hollywood. Because of Barney Rubble from the Flintstance? Barney, the dinosaur. Oh, come on, Matt. Two plus two is four.
Starting point is 01:56:20 Barney wasn't a dinosaur. The dinosaur was the toilet and the sink and, like, the stairs. Barney was the man who used all of those things. You guys haven't said it. You're stuck on blitzstones. Was that quite a groundbreaking show when you were a kid? Yeah, was that, like, reflective of current life? Was that realism?
Starting point is 01:56:43 No, that was set in the future. The Jetsons fucking blew his mind. It's set in the future when people could ride dinosaurs. Back in your day, he just ran from them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That would have been a really exciting time.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Yeah, it was really nice to see a future, a bit of a utopia in the future where dinosaurs and man would get along. Couldn't wait. Never happened, of course. We ended up killing them all. That got lost from the history books. I killed quite a few dinosaurs. That's what we used to call them. Dinosaur.
Starting point is 01:57:14 Yeah, you're about to get real Dinosaur. when I chop your fucking hair. That's a pun. That's a pun. I've done it again. So thank you to Andrew as well for supporting the show and supporting the future generations with children's entertainment. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:57:36 Six legends there. I'm going to go out on a limb. Six legends. Good call. Hall of Famers. Yeah. Every name we read out goes into the Hall of Fame. We should have said that a lot.
Starting point is 01:57:47 earlier, but it's true. It is true. You're secretly keeping a Hall of Fame here. And you're in, and you're inducted for life once you're read out. Yeah. That motion has been grandfathered, which I believe means backdated. Is that right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Thank you. Jess looks grossed out somehow. Come on, Jesse, you're not a lawyer like Matt and I? No. You know that. Oh. Does that mean we have to kick her off? This is a lawyer's only club.
Starting point is 01:58:17 I'm a man of the cloth, the law cloth. Well, before you take that cloth off, we have to wrap up the episode. It's almost time to cloth off. Is that what you were doing? Cloth on cloth. But we have to say, thanks for listening. Before you go. Jessica got diarrhea.
Starting point is 01:58:33 She's touching cloth. Well, that's a messy cloth. You get in contact at any time with us via Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. I don't want to sing there. Anything? YouTube. Internet. Internet.
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Starting point is 01:59:09 which are at Do Go On Pod, and our YouTube, which we're putting up some Eps. Yeah, so all the live episodes are mainly have videos. including the UK tour and they'll all be slowly going up now as I come back to catching up and that'll get us all the way up to the live Melbourne one sometime real soon
Starting point is 01:59:29 you can also check out on our website there's a live shows page so if you're wondering if we're coming to a town near you you'll be able to find out there if we're not which is very possible send us a message and tell us you want us to come considering at this stage we're only coming to the city we're in now
Starting point is 01:59:45 no we're also going to Kos Samui Oh yeah! That's right! I can't forget getting about that. Any Co-Sumi listeners? We'll be there in June. It is wild. Flights are booked. We're coming.
Starting point is 01:59:54 Dave's working on his six-pack. Yeah. I've got one, five to go. That's why he's got diarrhea. He's trying to shit his way to a six-pack. Hey, me too. Does that help? No.
Starting point is 02:00:04 If you get rid of all the food inside of you, I reckon. One time I threw up so much. You got a six-pack? I was very sick. Yes. No. That's what they're called sick pack. Sick pack.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Oh, that's a pun. Not. Not permanently. Not permanently, but all the muscles were so tight that my stomach was like flat as. Oh, don't tell me that because I'm going to go for it in Thailand. Just throw up all the time. All the time. That's a terrible system.
Starting point is 02:00:32 I will look so hot. You're going to get beach bud ready? I want this to end. Is it a show? Yeah. All right. Well, oh yeah, we're still on. I have diarrhea.
Starting point is 02:00:46 Oh, no. Let's go. Hold it. Hold it. All right, team, thanks so much for listening to the show. But until next week, I'll say thank you. And as always, goodbye. Later.
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