Two In The Think Tank - 19 - Bonnie and Clyde

Episode Date: March 2, 2016

Bonnie and Clyde are the most famous criminal duo in history. Dave talks us through the public's fascination and ultimate disgust with the outlaws who made it big all because of one photo. A couple of kids hopping around, robbing, kidnapping and killing a lot of people... Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. you. Hello and welcome to Doo Go On, the podcast hosted exclusively by me, Jasper. Hang on a second. My guests who are temporary. My temporary guest this week. We're not even on for the full web. Matthew Gerald Stewart. But he's not his middle name.

And David James Wanakie. Correct, but actually the James is mine as well. Is this well? How have we never discussed that you have the same middle name? We may have. I'm sure. All our moms have Anne in their names. That's right. And all of us have James. Your middle name is James of all right.

Yeah, it's James Anne. James Anne Perkins. I was making up Dave's and then realized halfway through that I was saying the correct name. That's the correct name. How are you, Jess? I'm pretty good. Thank you for giving me a chance to intro. It was no good. No, you? I'm pretty good. Thank you for giving me a chance to intro. It was no good. And you would do it from now on. The tone, style, great. But the fact that you introduce Matt and I as temporary guests

means you will never have that privilege again. Yeah, fair enough. I just want to be the star. You are the star already. You just don't need that little intro bit of the star. OK. Now, people like you for your hateful soul. It's the adorable exterior with the bitter core.

And Matt, how are you? I'm really good. You're not bitter. You're just a happy chap. I couldn't be happier. Love's, love's wonderful. That's pretty peachy. Yeah.

Yeah. See that positivity and optimism in this voice? That's pretty peachy. Yeah. You know? Yeah, see that? See that positivity and optimism and the choice? Everything about things is good. That's right. No, no, no, no. Laugh is delicious.

It totally is perk up, perk up. Hashtag perk up. Just you want to tell everyone what this show is? This is a trivia comedy fact-based podcast where each week one of us takes turns. Each week we're one of us. Yeah, it's like an allufer. It presents a school-like report, if you will, on a topic of our choosing and presents fun facts to the other two and you learn and you laugh.

Well that's nearly accurate but fun facts is your thing. That's my thing. Not every report will contain fun facts. I don't believe mine will finish fun facts because today it's my turn to take the lead with a report. Because the whole thing will be fun. Exactly. You don't need fun facts if you're talking about it. Let me know at the end if I've spliced in, sort of sprinkled

across some fun facts sort of out. Sure. The next hour of your life. Great. All right, so we just get straight into it now. Yeah, yeah, but I'm, look, I'd like you to put the fun facts at the end where they belong now. But none of them know, my life is delicious. I am a maverick. I like to fun fact So I like to keep the list as interested rather than them skipping 50 minutes towards the end of the Pond. Some people are they're like, oh Mary Poppins. I don't know. I've seen that but I don't know what the fun facts at the end of 50 minutes skip Skip. Okay. Yeah, no he's under something there. I do care as we get the downloads My next episode I'm gonna put my fun facts bang in the middle. Oh yeah, find them now get turds. Oh, but you said bang in the middle so I just

Exactly an Aaron 14. I'll be like oh 37 minutes in Damn it Perkins Well guys I get what I make that laugh Why why why don't really gratify? Yeah, he's a tough cookie to crack But when you get him, sometimes he spasms out of control. He just has such a little chuckle, it's great.

He does great. Well, I'm gonna try and get you chuckling on this show. Matt, well I will. I'm just trying to see the ship on track here, people. We often start to get into my report with a question. Guys, we are going into the underworld. My first question is, who do you think is the most famous criminal in history? Oh, famous criminal. Okay. Ned Kelly. Very good.

Famous criminal. Jack. Well, why do we talk in? We are definitely international. Charles Manson. How about I say, who are the most famous criminal duo? Ony and Clyde. Yeah, very. It's not what one of them is.

What did you do? What were you thinking? Someone. Buddy George Clooney and Brad Pitt stealing all those hearts. Oh, very good. In the Oceans movie. Yes.

And they also committed crimes. Oh, you know, they did too. You're right. Oh, yeah, how about hauling oats Stealing all them hearts on the dance floor though. Oh my right stealing all that. Yeah, what about the genius Jesus Christ. He's literally already said what the topic is so now. What, please explain to me the duo and the criminality of Jesus Christ is because he's the... Well, the father of the son and the Holy Spirit. Yeah, the priest of the tree. That is the tree of... He's a tripped ditch. He's a tripped ditch of crime?

No, not at all. Well, he was a criminal though, because he was... Oh, he was persecuted as a criminal, I imagine. Okay, pretty enough, I'll let that slide. I think that's very good. Still, he's only one. He's only one man. I did a drama solo in year 10 of Bonnie and Clyde. I mainly played Bonnie, but I did.

Did a little bit of, you double. Oh yeah, because you got to do multiple characters. So what was the text? Was it pretty written or did you have to devise a piece? Or what was your? No, you had to devise a piece. So do you know a bit about Bonnie and Clyde? Or some facts will come back to me,

but I can't really pull much out right now. Oh, that's okay, because I've got Matt, how about you? Do you know much about the... I reckon I, at one point, Flickdover and saw a movie at Blokka Bio Pick about them. Maybe a one from the 80s. Was it like a...

So... I've had the guy that played Dick Tracy in it. The one that Yor you're so veins written about Yeah, that go well the most famous film is I think of the most famous one baby. Yeah, that's the most that's 1967 that movie fuck off War and BT really I thought it was from the 80s. Yeah, it's actually I watched the movie on this weekend 67

Yeah, what is Warren baby still, so it's fade-down. Wait, you know who's also in it? Jean Hackman. Ooh. Quite young. And also there's a cameo from Jean Wilder, Willie Wonka. I love Jean Wilder. It's actually quite a good film.

Double Jane. Not that accurate to the story of their lives. Luckily, I didn't base the report on that film, but it's really well directed. And it was a landmark movie in cinema because it's one of the first films that depict on-screen violence in a very graphic way So before that people would get shot off camera or they wouldn't see but in that people get shot in the face

I Accidentally stumbled upon a clip on YouTube the other day. I was stuck in a YouTube vortex Oh, some kind of musical number between Bonnie and Clyde. Was she like an actress? Was she wanting to make it big in Hollywood or something? Did I make it? No, that would have been just a drama sensation. You're thinking of not Bonnie and Clyde, but Sonny Bono and Shared. Ah.

Or JC and Beyonce. That's what I was watching. JC and Beyonce. Oh, three. Bonnie and Clyde from the year 2003. Oh, they did a, like a musical clip. One of the songs is like a musical. Well, you know, the film that they play like a modern day on Inclad. Do you know that song? Me and my girlfriend. That song. That's

chasing me. I need a little, I'm gonna need a little. Yeah, a bit more. It's me and my girlfriend. That's all I know. Jason. And then he does a lot of rapping. Beyonce. It's the clip that, uh, working. and then he does a lot of rapping, Beyonce. It's the clip that, working on that. He does a lot of rapping. I will say that song is where they got together. I think that's a bit of a re-based on that, mate. I think that. Making that song is where J.C. and Beyonce first coupled up.

Yeah, well he's a millionaire because of his, he's a lot of rapping, okay? Yeah. What do you do? Write some bloody jokes, good on you. Well, I'll, I'll just, can I give us a joke, Dave? If you're so good at rapping and joking all the time,

I assume that's what I wasn't listening. Is that what he said? He's great at rapping and joking. Can I mix it up? We'll give us some joke raps, mate. I'm better than Jay-Z, he said. My name is Danny. Oh, no, no.

I bought a board. I bought a blinder. No. No. Bonnie and Clyde played by Faye Dunnoay. Yeah. That's pretty good. Do you know that film?

97 Bonnie and Clyde to steer this back on track. Nominated for 10 Academy Awards. 10 to tie it back to you. Putting Warren BDN Faye Dunnoway getting, do you know that Warren BD's been nominated for 14 Academy Awards? That's a lot.

It's not crazy for writing, directing, acting. Here's this quite a popular, amazing Actor guy. Anyway, this is a old white guy getting a little bit of, I guess he wasn't always an old worker, but that's why he was one of the white guys. He was always a white guy. He was always white. But anyway, Bonnie and Clive, here they are. Bonnie and Clive, we're part of what is known as the public enemies era. Operating through the US Great Depression in the 1930s. That's interesting. Everyone was, people were very, very poor, but then there were some famous outlaws that went sort of enemies of the public because of what they were doing and the other superfamous

public enemy from this area, ERA, is John Dillinger. John Dillinger. So the enemies of the public, so the public aren't even happy with them. I thought they could be like Ned Kelly types or like, you know, Robin Hood where they're still from the rich. Well, we'll talk about their profile definitely. Yes. So it started. Getting to it far ahead of ourselves. No, it started well for them but then in the end they did become enemies of the public. But let's start with Bonnie. Do you know her last name? Clyde. Bonnie Clyde. And Clyde. Bonnie. Correct. No, it's Bonnie

Parker. Yeah. Bonnie. That's right. That doesn't sound right tode. Bonnie, correct. No, it's a Bonnie Parker. Yeah, Bonnie. That doesn't sound right to me. Oh, sorry, Bonnie Elizabeth Parker. There it is. Was born in Ruhina, Texas in 1910. Ruhina. She was the second of three children. Her father, Charles Parker, was a bricklayer who died when she- A little child syndrome. That's right. But he died when she was just four years old. Her mother worked as a seamstress who moved the family to a poor suburb known now as West Dallas. So this is studying in Texas. In a second year in high school, Parker met classmate Roy Thornton. They dropped out of school together and were married on September 25th 1926. Six days before she turned 16. Oh, she got married at 15. 15.

You know what, I did at 15? Got my ears pierced for the second time, like the second holes in your head. Really? Yeah, both of them. Both classic signs of rebellion. Yeah, and my mom was like, that looks nice. I love the marriage as a rebellion.

Well, at 15. Yeah, it definitely is, but I like to think that it is forever, like 35 year olds in America. Yeah, your parents are there walking in the dark. That's your speech. Yeah. Got this dad. Yeah.

So was there husband's name for Roy? Did you say that? Roy Thornton. But I wouldn't bother running his name down because their marriage marks by his frequent absences and brushes with the laws and he was a bit of a crime himself and it was very short lived They broke up she never saw him again after January 29 however they never officially divorced and she was wearing his wedding ring when she died

Okay, so to say spoiler alert She may have she may have died of old age of super old age in an nursing home last week Oh, it's surrounded by her medals of valor still 106 To young Rest in peace. Sorry. How long were they married for? I'm really fascinated by this. They're still married. Oh, yeah I know okay, but yeah, that's right. She never saw him again after 29 It's three years so for three years, but before they'd broken up before that They were and broken up by like 1718 years old. Been there down that marriage. Yeah, imagine.

What's that? After the marriage ended, she lived with her mother and worked as a waitress. One of her customers was the postal worker Ted Hilton, who said men would often hit on the good looking Parker and later admitted that he himself had a crush on her but we'll get back to Ted a little bit later. Ted Hinton H.I.N. T. I'm noting that down because you're alluding to that. I think something's gonna happen. She's named it Bonnie. No, no, no, she's Bonnie. Wait, which one's Bonnie again? She's Bonnie Parker. Bonnie Parker.

Out of Bonnie and Clyde, who do you reckon is the girl? Well, I mean Dave's only said it's 17 times so far, so I mean, so we've got... So Bonnie's the girl, I'm gonna write that down. Bonnie equals girl, write that. Are you Clyde? Are you Clyde? Equals Boy. Okay.

Let's talk about Clyde, you know his last name. Parker and Clyde Devon and you first let us with the B Benson I actually don't okay Clyde Barrow Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow it's a classic that's right. It's a classic a Classic trivia question. You'll have an interview. You'll pursue to lot is that what either what is their last name or Barrow and Parker the surnames of which famous crime duo so remember that one out there if you're playing trivia percent Clyde Chestnut Barrow was born that's his middle name also aka Clyde Champion Barrow he went by two names chestnuts better it's not Chester you know which is an actual name it's chestnut CC Barrow is great he was in 1909, making him one year older than Bonnie.

He was born into a very poor farming family in Ellis County, also Texas, which was southeast of Dallas. He was the fifth of seven children, whose family migrated to Dallas in the early 1920s, as part of a wave of resettlement from impoverished farms to an urban slum known as West Dallas. So he also moved to West Dallas. The bearers spent their first months in West Dallas living under their wagon. And they're wagon. And eventually they upgraded to living in a tent.

As a teenager, Clyde attempted to enlist in the US Navy, but lingering effects from a serious boyhood illness, possibly malaria or yellow fever, not really new, resulted in him being rejected on medical grounds, which was a hard blow for Clyde who had already tattooed USN or US Navy on SLEPT arm, which after talking about tattoos last week, I don't think that would have had laser removal back in the 1920s. It's a bit eager isn't it? That is eager. Getting the tattoo before the job. What can you change that to? What was it US is eager getting the tattoo before the church at to what was it us in yeah You could call it to Puss not pass now

Puss bus bus now he could become a bus driver Bus now bus now wraps around his home. Yeah bus now and he refuses to get on buses Ah, yeah, I think I like that the most. That's pretty good. Look, I think that was the stopping conversation for. I think we've saved the day for our client. Nothing bad is going to happen to him. Or is it?

Barrow was first arrested in 1926 for automobile theft after failing to return a car he had rented in Dallas to visit an estranged high school girlfriend. The rental car agency dropped the charges but the incident remained on his record. Can you imagine renting a car to a 16-year-old kid who has USN tattooed on his arm? Fair enough. Just three. I've done it a couple times this week. I trust him. Yeah. I think he's a good guy. I misunderstood. He's a chestnut that kid. He's having a little bit of bad luck You know, he didn't get into the Navy. He may take the car over. He forgot to return. That's fine

But three weeks later he was arrested again alongside his older brother Ivan Buck Barrow Better name for an even more serious crime Possession of a truckload of stolen turkeys. Oh my god. So we started with a big crime this guy. No, the official crime, is that what it's written down in the law? Is that a metric measurement? A truckload of turkeys?

No, no, these are genuine gobble gobble live turkeys. They stole a truck for a little bit. How many is a truck full? That's what I want to know. How big is a truck, Dave? How big is it? Because it could be like a little budget truck. No, no, we're talking about a 78 tonne.

I don't know what that means. It's a 78 tonne. That is a big truck. No, that's the big turkey. That's a big turkey. And it's a very, very, very tonne turkey. It's a very big turkey. Yeah.

Hey, this guy was a criminal mastermind. Hey, Mark, I hear that there's the world's biggest turkey living in the farm next door. Let's go steal it. And it's the biggest by like thousands of times. Yeah, that's right. He's literally king of the turkeys. Literally. He's got a crown on everything. He's being knighted. Things get knighted, right? Oh God. He sits on a turkey throne. If he's the king yet to knight himself.

Yeah, I dubbed the, I dubbed me. So, turkey king. All hail, so turkey king. All hail, all the other turkey stud hail. It's got a good turkey impression, not a bad turkey. Do you want to show all how we go? It's got a good turkey impression, a very whiteie toy to your head. I'm not very confident about this one. Oh, boy, I'm having fun doing a silly voice.

Oh, so good man. Your face is saying fuck you right now. I don't know if you know that, but your face is looking at me and your eyes are saying fuck you. Oh, no, your mouth is saying it. Fuck you. There it is. Several accounts describe Bonnie and Clyde's first meeting,

but let's go with this one, because that's the one I found the most sources for. Bonnie Clyde met, putt-a-me, Bonnie Parker met Clyde Barrow. On January 5, 1930, at Clarence Clay's house, who was a friend of Clyde. Clarence Clay, that is a cracking name. So Bonnie was, it's such a good one, isn't it? Bonnie was out of work and was staying in West Dallas

to assist a female friend who had a broken arm. So she's a nice girl, a painting, that picture. Clyde dropped by the girl's house while Parker was in the kitchen, making hot chocolate. Oh, that's quite nice of that. What did they met? Both were smitten immediately. Most historians believe Parker joined Barrow. That's Bonnie joined Clyde, because she was in love with him.

Aww. But love will make you do silly things. But they were soon split apart because after sequential arrest in 1929-1929, soon after this meeting he was sent to Eastern prison farm in April 1930 so just to be able to prison. Well yeah and he got sentenced to 14 years in jail. It's only like 20 years old in 1930. But it's a prison farm. Which means that you just have to do a lot of work. And hang out with some turkeys. Yeah they're like this guy's the turkeys whisperer. Okay what I'm gonna take you. I know you're a king, take you. Yeah, I'm the big turkey, won't it?

Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah. Why are you whispering? I'm a really small-ease. It's hard to hear. I'm a turkey. How do birds hear? That's a question I've never answered. Oh, whilst in prison. Back to the crimes.

Whilst in prison, which is East Ham prison farms That's quite important because he hates his place to the rest of his life whilst in prison young Barrow used a lead pipe to crush the skull of another inmate She had crowded who was a seriously bad dude who'd been praying upon Clyde and other young inmates and touching them up so to speak Oh, this was Clyde Barrow He he'd been doing it for over a year and Clyde had enough of it. So this was Clyde Barrow's first killing. Lead part, that is a Cludo weapon.

Over the head, crushed it. It is a Cludo weapon. But he didn't get in trouble for it because another inmate Aubrey Scaly, who had also been abused by Crouter, he was already serving a life sentence, he took the blame. But he was actually pardoned by the governor in 1953. So this guy got off and they killed an awful lot for men. Clyde Barrow also whilst in prison convinced another inmate to use an axe to chop off two of his toes

in order to excuse him from working hard labor in the field. To chop off Clyde's toes. Yes, Clyde said a bit like, you know, Chopper did he? Chopper with the Chopper in his famous Australian criminal, famously got another inmate to chop off his ears so he had to go to the hospital ward so he wouldn't be murdered by a gang

that he'd pissed off in prison. So he's the 1920s chopper. So he said, can he chop my toes off? So I won't have to work hard labor in the fields which word which worked I should say but sadly unbeknownst to Clyde his mother successfully petitioned to release for him just six days after this intentional injury. Oh my god. Barrow would walk for a limp for the rest of his life as a result of not having to say you've got to be careful because balance right? Yeah, but if you lose your big toe, you can't walk properly, right?

Like you have to have a witch toe. I have little ones, two little ones. I can't confirm, but you also have to drive barefoot for the rest of his life. Okay, that has nothing to do with it, surely. May it put a shoe on. I do that. It's just comfortable sometimes. Yeah, because songs are tricky to work with pedals. Yeah, so you're better to take them off.

Yeah, supermove. I find it kind of liberating too sometimes. Yeah, so you better just take them off. Yeah, supermorph. I find it kind of liberating too sometimes. Yeah, it's really... It's probably a song often drive just bare for the pedal. Oh, it does feel good. It feels free. It's a man and a shame just connecting. It feels like summer.

You know? It's one of the same for the American business. Especially in the summer time. I'm gonna say that US this is that songs are flip flops. We're not throwing it on the way out. The is that thongs are flip flops. We're not throwing out on the way. I don't know. I do that. Songs flip flops. Yes. I knew that they do call them at some places.

It's probably a better word. Flip flops. They're even having them. They're having flip flops. They have flip flops. Yes. They call them jandles in New Zealand. Jandles.

I like that. Jindles. Jandles. Jandles. Jandles. Jindles. Jindles. Chums. Kindles. Kindles. Kindles. Kindles. Kindles.

After Barrow was released, I don't think any of us nailed that. No, we did not at all. Sorry, he's on listeners. Kill it. No. I know the vowels are different, but I forget which way. A is. So, should I go on?

Yeah, probably. Good. After Barrow was released from prison, when he was sort of bailed out by his mom, in February 1932, he and the guy called Ralph Fultz assembled a rotating core group of associates that began a series of small robberies, primarily of stores and sort of gas stations. He just doesn't learn, does he? Oh no. But because some claim that Clyde's whole mission in life since being released was to get enough money to break out all the prison inmates of East Ham An exact revenge upon his mistreatment in prison

So that's some people think that he was saving up for He's saving up to break everybody out You get a lot of money, you get a lot of people, you get a lot of weapons and then just sort of get revenge upon Because what he went in was just a kid and when he came out a few years later? He was like a hard and criminal, yeah. Wow. Because of, you know, bad stuff that happened in there. On April 19th, Bonnie Parker, who was part of the group with Ralph Fultz, and Fultz himself were captured in a failed hardware store robbery, where they intended to steal firearms, and

subsequently they were both convicted and jailed, but Bonnie was released a few months after a grand jury failed to indict her. Fault, however, was prosecuted and tried, which some would say was a good thing, because he never, he served time when he got a jail, never rejoined the gang, and he did do a few other crimes, but later got clean and lived to be 82 years old.

Oh, good idea. He is one of the few people in the story that makes it to old age. I'll say that, so that's. I'll say that, sorry about that. On April 30th, Clyde was the driver in a robbery, also in Texas String, which the store's owner, Jay-in Butcher, B-U-C-H-E-R,

he was shot and killed. And when she owned mug shots, the victim's wife identified Barrow as one of the shooters, although he'd just been the driver and stayed outside in the car. Oh. But this was the first time in the crime story that Barrow Clyde was accused of murder.

Oh. Bonnie was released. Like I said, when I drew her to Clyde to indict her, within a few weeks, sadly she rejoined Clyde in the gang. Oh, Bonnie. And in August, whilst Parker, who Bonnie visiting her mother in Delus, Clyde, a guy called Raymond Hilton and Ross Dyer, were drinking alcohol at a country dance when a sheriff and his deputy approach him in the parking lot. Not a

good thing because Barrow Clyde and Hamilton opened fire, killing the deputy. It's actually the other way round. Wait, I shot the deputy, but I didn't, I gravely wounded the sheriff. Would be more of a reason. Is that what that song's about? Yes, let's go with it. This was the first time Clyde and his gang killed a law man. Was the first time for everything? You got to kill a law man at some point, don't you?

Yeah. It would all catch up with a gang member Raymond Helmutton, who's one of those guys that just shot a sheriff, because by the time he was 21 years old, he accumulated a prison sentence of 362 years. That's it. Okay, hang on. I'm no good at maths. 362 years. Divided by the average lifetime. He's never getting out of prison.

He's still in. He's still in. No, he's not, because he was executed on May 10, 1935. But his corpse will see out the sentence. That's right. They make him stay in the prison cell and rot. I was electrocuted by electric chair. Hamilton, he walked calmly and firmly to the chair,

seated himself for the words, well, goodbye all. Oh, he walked calmly and firmly to the chair, seated himself for the words, well, goodbye all. Oh yeah, not cool. So real bad ass, real bad ass. Yeah, if you're gonna, if jolly good. Yeah, okay, bye. I like it was sort of quite, it sounded like Polar Old Tommy. Well, goodbye everyone. And I imagine he would have tipped his cap. He tipped the metal thing on top. Oh, you know the bit I tipped Smillid. Tipped the electric chair lid. Oh dear. Yeah. So he's gone, but another guy in the story, WD Jones. Oh, you're a Jones. He's going to become part of the gang. He'd been a friend of Clyde and the Barrow family since childhood.

And when he was only 16 years old and Christmas Eve, 1932, he persuaded Clyde to let him join him and Bonnie, and he left Dallas with him that night. The next day, W.D. Jones was initiated when he and Barrow killed Doyle Johnson, a young family man, while stealing the guy's car also in Texas. Less than two weeks later in January, Barrow killed Terrent County Deputy Sheriff Malcolm Davis when he Parker and Jones Wondered into a police trap set for another criminal Should have been keeping a tally of how many people I can tell you killed I've got it written here

The total murdered by the gang since April was five. Okay, so in nine months of fuel five people so then what he can't not great people But yeah, I've got a tally going Bonnie Bonnie Kim. And I'll save a number four, so far, Jim. So at the moment, we've got WD Jones Clyde Barrow, Bonnie Parker, but they need more of a gang. So in March 1933, Clyde's brother Buck. Great. Buck Barrow was released. Buck Barrow.

He was released from prison when granted a full pardon. So the prisons are really full at this time, I should say. That's why everyone was getting a a pardon because they just didn't have enough places. So people were getting like 25-year sentences and then they're after four years, we need the bed. So they're just sending them back out there. Who'd you choose to get rid of? You know who you like? Oh well like surely you'd prioritize some of the the petty of crimes. How about a really honest guy? Really honest. Let me tell you about Buck. Buck stopped going to school at around age eight or nine because he enjoyed fishing and hunting far better.

Quote. Sure. Buck stopped. Filih. Buck stopped with him. Very good. Have you been waiting for that? Only a few seconds. He was the one I should say who was driving the truck full of stolen turkeys. Oh, okay. So he was the driver. So Buck had met a lady called Blanche. Blanche. And fallen in love with her just days before being shot and arrested during a burglary gone wrong. And not wanting to be away from his new love, what he done is he escaped from prison by simply walking out the door. Yeah, good plan. Stole the guard's car drove to his parents place in West Dallas where Blanche was living.

They got married whilst he was on the run, but Blanche wasn't interested in a criminal career so she and members of his family urged him to turn himself in. So two days after Christmas 1931 his mother and wife drove him up to the gate of Huntsville Penitentiary Prison where he told the surprise officer officials that he had escaped almost two years before and needed to resume his sentence with a welcome dimmin. Amazing. What? That is, I like that. I like it. It's just like, oh, yeah.

I don't remember you. Yeah, where have you been? Yeah, great. Good to have you back. Come in, right? Tuckers are still there waiting for you mate. Don't worry about that. There are a few things of change. We've got a new cook, but you will love Sloppy Joe Wednesdays. So much fun. That guy who used to rape everybody, he's gone. Yeah, we clubbed him good. We clubbed him good. He is full dead. You'll find it's actually quite a nice community now

Yeah, there's a there's a crocheting club anyway, you'll figure it out. You'll be right come on Did you want your old bed-beam same room? All right come on in we're on box back. Yeah His room still the same place is on the wall and they've warden used to go in there and just smell his Just imagining remember Remember those things? The turkey whisperer. I hope he's okay wherever he is. Buck and so they're now a buck and blanche barrow. That's pretty good. It's pretty good, BB and BB.

So he was released Buck and I said Blanche didn't want a criminal career. No, but he didn't stay clean because upon his release in March 1933, a buck in the company of Blanche Which I love that name joined joined the younger brother Clyde Bonny Parker and WD Jones in Missouri where he participated in several armed Robbery so come on back he went from Burglary to armed robbery Very very quickly then why put yourself back into prison then You know if you just gonna turn your time, I know. And they didn't even seem to care that he wasn't there.

I think that's how full it was. They're like, oh yeah, what do you mean? Well, do you? I like how you, you're like, they didn't seem to care. I mean, in our act out, they didn't. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very true.

I think you really... I think you just want that in because that's exactly how it happened. Yeah. Dave just handed us a script which someone dictated at the time. I mean, was he being pursued? You didn't seem like he was in hiding. There was obviously forms for when he got married. So there's records of him doing things.

Wouldn't have been that hard to find. And he was hanging out in his parents' house. Yeah, they didn't look very hard today. That is amazing. That's what I meant. For two years. It's not like he was there for... You know, the assistant criminal gets out for like 12 hours and everyone... This guy was gone for two years and then handed himself in. Yeah, it sounds like he would have been...

Frey. Like that was... Yeah, he was fine. That's what I mean. And then he did two more years. And then he went back in. I learnt some bad stuff again. And then became an armed robber like the next day. That's an idiot. Oh, Buck.

The group now five strong, so you got Blanche. You got Buck. You got Clyde. You got Bonnie. You got WD. Are they attracted, next they attracted the attention of law enforcement, not from crimes, but from their loud, ladish behavior. Ladish.

They would drink, I just put that word in, to be honest, that was not a popular word back in the 1930s. They would drink heavily and party into the night playing card games quite loudly. How do you play card games loudly? Snap. Yes, yes. And this was in a very go-fish.

What? Gave it down. Well, this is a very quiet area of town. So they told the sheriff and the law man. Checkmate. They told the law man who assembled a five man. No, just that is a different. Oh, I apologize.

That's not cards at all. I'm not good at games. Or is it probably dumbshod as a car game when he gets to the game? Anyway, I'm sorry about that. Jiggle on day. Fine, thank you. The law man, the law man.

I love this law man. Assemble to five man car force in two cars in April to confront what they suspected were bootleggers living in the garage apartment. So they didn't know that they were a wanted armed robbery gang. So they sort of surrounded them. But in their escape, Clyde Jones and Buck

quickly killed a detective McGinnis and Fatally wounded another one Constable Harryman. Fatally wounded, that's not a two. Oh Fatally wounded. Yeah, so two more. Two more. They gang escaped, but what they did was they left behind because it was such a cuff-fuffle most of their possessions in the apartment. Items included Buck and Blanche's marriage license, so now they know who they are. Uh-oh. Buck's parole papers,, only three weeks old. He's been out for three weeks. A large arsenal of weapons, they lost a lot of weapons. A handwritten poem by Bonnie, she apparently liked to write poems.

Sure. Actually, it wasn't typed up on a iMac Pro. Unbelievable, you're not. Wouldn't hold that as high as the parole papers or the wedding certificate though. Just a fucking poem. write another one you don't Look, I mean you've you've really turned on her there, and I don't think I don't remember Dave ever saying that she was Going hey forget that other shit. I need my poem back You're dumb love I love that.

That is brutal. How many people have they killed so far? Seven. They've killed seven people, and your biggest fault with her is that she's left some poetry behind. You're dumb, bit. Not your callous cow. Your killer.

All this, like, no, poetry. I draw the line. But I will say the most important thing for history that they left behind was a camera with several roles of undeveloped film because our bunny parker was sort of a bunny amateur photographer. She'd been taking a lot of photos on their journey. The film was developed at the Joplin Co. which is a local newspaper and yielded many

now infamous photos of Bonnie and Clyde and drones who were clanging around in the photos, pointing weapons at one another, and they published both the poem and the photos. Oh, so the poem plays a part. That's right, and the poem was about them being on the run. So it made her look like a real badass, and one of the photos, which is very famous, and I will tweet this photo probably

when we put the episode out, included one of our Bonnie clenching a cigar in her teeth and a pistol in her other hand. And I went out and the newly installed newswire, so across the country. And so now the obscure five criminals from Dallas suddenly became front page news across America and they were dubbed the Barrow Gang. Okay, well, if I may, I would like to issue a formal apology to Bonnie. That's right. I will accept on behalf of her.

I mean, I jumped onto the poem thing. I called her a dumb bitch. Yeah. And it all tied together and it made sense why Dave mentioned it because it was published in the newspaper. Exactly, that's the point, right? She's now a published poet.

Yeah, she's a published poet. It's more than I could say, which is, um, right? She's now a published poet. Yeah, she's a published poet. It's more than I could say. Which is, um, none of my poetry has been published. Have you ever had a photo of you with a cigar and a handgun published on the front page with most newspapers in the US? I have not. I've not.

So, have you written much poetry, Joe? Yeah. I mean, that's so disappointing. Sadly, yes, I have. It's real sad. Have you got any of this? This cherry demeanor, it's a facade. That sounds like the. It's real sad. Have you got any aftertap? This cheery demeanor It's a facade. That sounds like the opening line of a poem doesn't it? This cheery demeanor is quite a facade Next line please. Then Dave wraps the rest

My ghetto gospel So yeah, I just want to apologize to Bonnie. No, I will not say my poetry because it won't be as good as hers and the world isn't ready for my poetry I don't think they're ready for monies either because she suddenly became very Faint they became over fame famous overnight But they were especially surprised because in the photo she looks like a real badass she didn't actually smoke cigars and she There's debate over whether she actually ever fired guns in the robberies Oh, wow before that the media was surprised that a woman could be such a badass

So that's why it became yeah such a big new story and suddenly she looked like a cigarsmoking gun-toting like crazy woman. Yeah. When in reality not so much. She's a total sweetie pie. It's good because like you said they were just clanging around in the photos. Yeah so it's just like 20-something-year-old kids. Yeah so at this stage they're about 20-21 people but not gonna be out. Not gonna be out. Not gonna be out. Not gonna be out. Not gonna be out.

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Not gonna be out. Not gonna be out. Not gonna be out. Not gonna be out. Not gonna be out. robberies and even kidnaps lawmen, sometimes civilians when stealing their cars, but they usually release their hostages far from home, sometimes with money to help them get back to where they were going. So stories have been counters like this made headlines for the gang, but so did they're more violent episodes. So sometimes people would tell the story and people would laugh about, oh, they let people go with money, but then other times the barragang did not hesitate to shoot anyone, civilians or officers who got in their way. And eventually the cold bloodiness of their killings, soured the public perception of the outlaw. So there was

a bit of an issue, people are into it, like fascinated by it. But then when they start hearing about several police officers and civilians getting gunned down. For no reason. Yeah, then suddenly there... Well, there wasn't no reason. People got over in their cars. And they were in the way. Yeah, they were in the way. Sorry, of course. Sorry, yeah, no.

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. No, Jess, come on. Of course. Jesus, you really got it into this bonnium clod gang, don't you? I hate them. I hate them so much. Well, I'm gonna say that it's not gonna...

It's gonna get worse before I cast any better guys. It's good. Better we'll get better. Good. Yep. It's good. Better will get better. Good. Yep. Yep. Okay.

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Now is the time. Mycomputercareer.edu So they were not our famous, but this wasn't actually good for the gang because they didn't ever want to be famous, but now they were famous so they couldn't hide anywhere because they'd be recognized at any motels or restaurants before they could just rob a gas station and then go into a town. No one knows, there's a group of five people at Bauma. And now they had to pretty much live and cook in their car and on the side of the road. Cooking your car! Come on, why are you animals? Cooking in cars! Turkey's a video about the years. There are 78 ton trucks.

Such a big turkey, so big. One day Clyde was driving and he missed a sign saying a bridge was out and he had a very, very bad car accident that left Bonnie with serious third-degree burns to her right leg. So severe that the muscles are contracted and caused the leg to draw up. And in some, some people report that you got acid battery, acid port over a leg. Oh, shit! But in some places you could see her bone. Oh, but then like they couldn't have taken it at a hospital.

No, so that's the thing. So throughout the rest of their life she struggled to walk and either hopped was often carried by Clyde who he himself struggled to walk. So now they're the guy with a limp carrying a girl with a limp. So it's getting more and more desperate for them. They hid for a while to try and treat her burns as best they could. But um, more desperate for them. They hid for a while to try and treat her burns as best they could. But to get more money, Buck and Jones, W.D. bungled a local robbery and killed a town marshal and with their renewed pursuit by the law, they had to flee despite Parker's Bonnie's series injuries. And this is all just because she had the hots for this boy. See, this is why I'll die alone, because-

Because no boy is worth this. No boy's worth couldn't battery. I said, I pulled it over my right leg. There, I said it. You're saying it? Just take it back. No. You're being hasty.

No. You're jumping to conclusions. It's good to work out well. Yeah, come up. The acid might end up being like a, something- A super pal. Yeah, or something that maybe she'll one day- Or maybe she had cancer in

the right language you'll have it removed anyway. She had a burnt off saved her life. Have you thought about that Jess? No because that's ridiculous. The cancer was burnt by the battery acid. There's no proof that that didn't happen. Love isn't really. Exactly is there proof that didn't happen? Love is a battlefield and so is being on the run. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Poetry, I think you would agree being the poet, poet laureate of the podcast. Oh, laureate. Wow.

Pretty impressive. Sorry, no, no, poet laureate. Oh, sorry. I know what I'm talking more than the other one. I don't have a way with words like you do. Please do go on. Thank you. The gang are rented a place in Missouri to try and settle down

again. They're consisted of two cabins joined by a garage in the middle. But they weren't very good. I will say it, not drawing attention to themselves. So this is some of the things they did. Are they playing card games loudly again? No, even worse than Bingo and no. Well, they shoot cards again.

I've got to be worse than my card playing. Is there? Well, they just actually rather suspiciously. They said it was for three people to live in, but then five got out of the car in front of the landlord and went inside the house, and he was like, oh, okay, that's weird. Why don't you say five, but what have been cool with it?

Okay. They paid holy and coins, not in notes, which is easy to track. Oh, they bet I love track. They back into the garage, quote, gangster style for a quick getaway. Oh, that's gangster style. So if the cops come you can just drive through the door of the garage, which is pretty cool. That's great. I back in car parks a lot. I don't know. I don don't. He's carrying the garage gangster style. What are we? I often pay for things with coins.

Gangsters. Gangsters style. Like chewing gum. Yeah, coffee. Small, small goods. You know, laundry. Lidens under $5. Machines that take only coins.

You know how it is. Are they put newspaper on all of the windows. That's a bit suscratic. Nobody likes the newspaper. With their pictures, perhaps. Exactly. And people are looking at the newspaper going, hang on, hang on, hang on. That's you. But most especially of all, I think we can all agree, Bucks' wife, Blanche, decided that she would wear Jobper horse riding pants, which apparently was uncommon in the area at Missouri, and people interviewed remember this fact 40 years later.

The choose to wear Jobper pants, which they quote thought was suspicious. So this is like the Mary Poppins lady wearing pants again, you know, she's not like- Suspicious. Suspicious. Something's going on with Blanche, she knows. But it's not just pants that she's wearing,

she's wearing Jobpers. You don't even have not just pants that she's wearing she's wearing job pills You don't even have a horse while you wearing horse right? Yeah for a quick getaway She could get on a horse at any moment and ride a word I say imagine them all they're all wearing Clides wearing like a racing outfit Once got like a pilot uniform once I get on the closest child of plane body stress is a pirate with a pig leg Because their leg doesn't work Get on the closest charter plane. He's body-stressed as a pirate with a pig leg. Because their leg doesn't work. Ha ha ha. Oh, she's fucked.

Ha ha ha ha. Now, so the landlord, the guy who was suspicious of them putting these papers up, gangster style, paying in coins, told the sheriff who was also suspicious. And wearing a pirate costume. Well, after putting the place under surveillance, I can only imagine wearing camouflage outfit. He organized a group of officers who approached the cabin with machine guns and an armored car.

That's excessive. Imagine a 1930s armored car. Arm, okay. It'd be pretty cool. That would be a cool car. So they approached and surrounded the building, but their machine guns were outmatched at a distance by Clyde's rifle

He had a really powerful rifle that is stolen. He was able to hold them off So the Barrow Gang they laid down fire and escaped when a bullet short-circuited the horn on the armored car And the lawman must took it for a ceasefire signal That's amazing. They drove out gangster style and the law guys did not pursue the retreating bearer vehicle. They didn't follow them. No, they were like, ah, see ya. They were like, oh no, they're driving away. You forgot your newspapers.

But they drove out gangster style. Surely that would have told them something. Hang on, maybe these guys are the criminals we're looking for. Although the gang had evaded the law again, Buck had sustained a gruesome and ultimately mortal bullet wound to his head, the blasted large hole in his forered skull bone. It actually exposed his injured brain. Blanche, his wife, was nearly blinded by glass fragments in both her eyes. Oh, both. What are the chances? That's it. Both in a really bad way.

I mean, what a nice bad enough. But come on, Blame. Honestly, I'd be opening the door and pushing them out. You guys a lot of abilities now, thanks. Well, they are. Five days later, the gang was camped in an abandoned amusement park spooky Scooby-Doo style I think my favorite is

Spooky. Buck was going in and out of consciousness, but every now and then was five days later He's still alive, but he could still speak when he was conscious. He could still speak But his massive head wound and he could see his brain. Yeah, so that he should be dead and he'd lost a lot of blood he should give a pity bullet to the bride yeah put him out Clyde and Jones had dug a grave for him because I thought he was going any time now just kill him if you're gonna give you a dig in the grave why make him live in pain for a kill your brother because he's conscious every now and then you wake up every

every five minutes and they have a gun to be said they're like oh shit sorry I'm not killing your brother because he's conscious every now and then you wake up every every five minutes and they have a gun to be said Oh shit, sorry, I'm what's he saying? No, no, no, no, I'll be all right. I'll be fine. Don't worry about me. I just need a drink of water. Yeah, you know, this will heal over. I just imagine that. Slowly the skin just heals over. Oh! Okay, but it grays on your knee.

I don't think that's how it happens. I don't think so. Well the bloody bandages, which there were a lot of, an injured buck so people could see is when caught the attention of locals who called the police, they were quickly identified as the Barrow gang. Okay, there's just a guy down the road whose brain I can see quite clearly through his skull.

That's a bit sus. Yeah. What a layup too. Also, it's an abandoned amusement park, Spooky. Pits are spacious. Yeah! What a layup, too. Also, it's an abandoned amusement park, spooky. Pits are suspicious. Local lawmen and approximately 100 spectators surrounded the group and the barrows soon came under fire again.

Bonnie Clyde and WD escaped on foot, but Borel Bugg was shot in the bag. Oh my God. And he lived. And he and his wife Blanche were captured by the offices Buck hung on for another five days before dying. Oh my god shot in the back when he got shot in the head Surely did they get him to a hospital like I imagine it's something that could be fixed Now they got into a hospital better. He got sick and he just wasn't gonna get better I just put a new hair like a new top of his head on.

A new skull. Were they doing that back then? No, I didn't think they were in the name of the police. I don't think they're doing that now. I'm thinking of a skull transplant. How can you can get a replacement like full skull? Yeah, you can get like a replacement, but I didn't think they were doing that.

It's like a like a... Can you do that now? But a hard plastic bowl or something. I kinda wanted one of those. Yeah, all like a piece of metal. Yeah. When I was getting migraines really badly, my dad one time, I said, I wish I could have a head transplant and he said,

but then you wouldn't have your beautiful face. And I said, oh thanks dad, oh, I'm going to need to throw up because the migraines made me throw up a lot. So from what I know about your relationship with your dad so far, Jess is he thinks you have a beautiful face and beautiful pins. Yeah, yes. What a great guy. So far, Jess is he thinks you have a beautiful face and beautiful pins Yes, what a great great guy. It's very sweet But I mean if if I was the middle part of your body, I'd be like what's up dad? About me arms

What do you think about me shoulders? You know, etc I wouldn't ask that feels a bit weird. He's approaching down with the clipboard with every part of your body. Good or bad, tell me. Tell me. No, you like it? Should I keep it? Covered by the face, oh yeah, sorry, I'm going to put them in for that. Shoulder blades, no. Ancles, you like them? Part of the legs. Yeah. Toes. Let's go individually, big toes. Second biggest toe keep it Keep a more middle toe out All right, that's a weird thing

Over the next six weeks the remaining three members, so which is Bonnie Clyde and WD Sure, are they roamed far and wide committing small crimes when they needed the money? So they restocked their weapons and ammunition when they raided an armory and Illinois So they're sort of traveling around and they're not doing big jobs anymore just enough to get by. I got WD with them. Why does everybody only remember Bonnie and Clyde? Yeah. Because of the romance factor. Well, we're going to get to WD-Roy here.

Oh, WD is going to die. WD is going to die and that'll just be Bonnie and Clyde. That's where it is, Matt. Matt, do you reckon WD is going to die? I reckon, yeah. But I'm wondering about this armory. How, like, how good of an armory is it? Okay. People are raiding it. Yeah. Like, shall we? I'm not saying good.ory how it like how good of an armory is it people are rating it

Yeah, like showy hey these guys are pretty good. It's funny and Clyde. We're talking about even though she couple of hobbly They can't even walk either of them. I by early September they risked a run to Dallas to see their families for the first time in many months Jones WD continued on to Houston to visit his own mother and was arrested there without incident on November 16th Through the autumn, so W.D. is gone through the autumn, but not dead not dead He's not on the body can't what's the body count? I was only at seven because that's just how many people Clyde had murdered Yeah, I was going for just Clyde all right. I reckon I reckon for time should you should count the like buck as well Just can't old death well death, but we've already passed a lot of death Well, let's say it's too late now. We miss it out. I reckon add six add six

Seven in brackets plus six to a plus six format at the end plus six Through the autumn Clyde executed a series of small-time robberies with a series of local accomplices while his family and parkers attended to her now considerable medical needs. So she was having a big rest and Clyde was still doing different crimes with different people. He just can't help himself. No, he really can't. He can't just take a holiday.

He can't. He's a workaholic. And January 1934, Clyde orchestrated the escape of Raymond Hamilton, who's that young guy serving 362 years, who's going to get electrocuted later on. And a guy called Henry Methvin, who will talk about Lady, and I want to write him down. Okay, thanks for the tip. Henry Methvin. We still haven't got Ted Hinton though.

No, we'll get there Henry meth Venn meth Venn I will talk about a little bit later and several others so we they escaped Raymond Henry and several others in the Now infamous if you're a big fan of crime East Ham breakout of 1934 What a year it was great. So remember how he wanted to break people out of prison Yeah, it was great. So Barry Barrow Clyde seemed, seemed to have achieved what historian Phillips described as his overriding goal. Revenge on the Texas Department of Corrections. So he got his mates out. He's pretty happy.

But during the prison break, a high ranking officer was shot and later died. Yes. This attracted the full power of the Texas and federal government for the manhunt for Bonnie and Client. So they finally go, alright, that's enough. So I think he shot a really high ranking guy and they're like, no. Come on. I've had enough of this. You can shoot some of our low level plims.

Yeah, the Lormen. The Tom Marshalls. Top Lormen. Then honestly, this disc jockey, deserved more. But the local guys, those desk jockeys weren't enough to capture Bonnie and Claire. They realized this. So the Texas Department of Corrections

called in Texas Ranger, Captain Frank A. Hamer, H-A-M-E-R. A retired Ranger. Is that who Hamer Hall is named after? Very doubtful because this is Texas and Hamehal's in Melbourne. Interesting. That's a good fact. Hamehal is probably not named after Captain Frank A. Hamehal. No, he meant that we're in Melbourne. Oh right. Oh, I missed that. That's good. I'm writing that down. We are in Melbourne. Write that down. Meth-vin. Meth-vin. So Captain Frank A. Hamer, he was retired, but he was given the task one last job of quote, taking Bonnie Clyde and the Barrow Gang. A big guy, for 20 years, Hamer had been a feared and admired

Ranger throughout Texas. He had quote, acquired a formidable reputation as a result of several spectacular captures and the shootings of a number of Texas criminals. He was officially credited with 53 kills and it suffered 17 wounds along the way. 53. Now we're cooking on the body count. You're going to add another plus 53. In short, I'm just trying to paint the picture that Frank Hamer is a real badass and you don't want him on your table.

I like him. Why aren't there more movies about Frank Hamer? Yeah. He is in the body in Cloud Movie, also that. Yeah, just one's more. I want more than one. I'm a bio-pick. Well, I mean, he's killed 53 people, been shot 17 times. That'm a bio pick. Well I mean he's killed 53 people

been shot 17 times. That's that's a story there. He's pretty cool. And he's got the Hameahol in Melbourne. Yeah. Well he's got some credit then obviously. Starting in February Hameah became the constant shadow of Bonnie and Clyde living out of his own car just a town or two behind the band so he's following them everywhere. Well just like follow them quicker. That is a really, because I assume he's doing that too, so they don't realize he's tailing them. You know, they normally hold back a little bit.

I think two towns is a bit too far. Yeah, yeah. Like, I was just trying to stay out of the rear view mirror. Probably, probably two straights, or even, you know, 50 meters, not two towns. Two towns. Don't want to tell this guy how to do his 50 meters not two towns. Two towns. Don't want to tell this guy how to do his job. 53 kills.

53 kills. How many kills have you done? What do we say? Seven. No, I need that many. He knows seven police officers I believe. We said attributed to you before. Six.

Six in one calendar year though. Seven. Seven. Yeah, what's seven? Lucky seven. I call that my lucky year. Pupil. Then we come to a an ominous part of the story,

which ominously called the grapevine murders. Grace. In April, so the guys, Frank's been trailing them for a couple of months now. On Easter Sunday, Clyde and Henry Methvin, as the guy escaped, killed two young highway patrolmen near grapevine in Texas, two more. And I witnessed a count-sat at Barrow and Parker, who's Bonnie fired the fatal shots,

and this story got widespread coverage before it was discredited. Ah! So the Great Vine killings were recounted in exaggerated detail, affecting public perception of the gang. So all four Dallas Daily papers, the big ones in Texas, seized on the story, told by this eyewitness, a farmer who claimed that he'd seen Bonni Parker laugh at the way Patrolman Murphy's head quote, bounced like a rubber ball, unquote, on the ground as she shot him. So she wasn't even there, but this guy said that and then the story got circulated several days later. Do you think they mean like one of those super bouncy rubber balls? You know those ones are just flying to the air. That would be fine.

That would be funny. You know those super balls and like you're like 20 meters in the air. That would be funny. If you see that. It's a little bit less every time. Yeah, I'm not the laugh at that. But even though you still be shaking at the adrenaline of shooting someone, you'd still bloody laugh at that. Yeah, you'd be tickled. No doubt about that. Hey, guys, funny, funny. Yeah. Don't forget that. Oh, never.

I felt that tattooed on my arm. Have you got a tattoo since we last spoke? No, yes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, credited the one that said he saw the bouncing head and the laughing, but the massive negative publicity against Bonnie in particular increased in the public the outcry for extermination of the survivors of the Barra gang. So the public perception is really tipped Now they even want the the female of the group shot even the female Which at the time, oh well, so this they got Frank Hamer to come in He was the third person they asked to pursue the first two guys That's why he had to come out of retirement because the two Rangers they asked said they wouldn't shoot a woman But he was like I'm Frank Hamer. I'll shoot anything. I feel 53 people. What is there to lose now?

I'll shoot anything Give me a gun. I'll shoot a lady. No problem. The highway patrol boss, boss of the two guys that were just shot, including the one, his fiancee went to his funeral in the wedding dress. Sorry. Creepy. Don't go to the funeral and you're winning dress.

I want a psycho bitch. I think if anything, he dodged, well, while he was hit by a bullet, he also dodged another bullet. Oh dear. Is that bitch be crazy? But his boss? She was heart by a bullet. He also dodged another bullet. Oh dear. Is that bitch be crazy? But his boss, she was heartbroken, Jess. She was crazy. I know you've decided never to fall in love,

but don't take it out on other people who have. Happiness? Don't resent other people's happiness, wearing their wedding dress at their partner's shoe. Don't resent them that happiness, Jeff. I'm not resenting her Maybe you'll never wear your soon-to-be wedding dress at your partner's funeral. No, I won't maybe you won't I'm not that's your choice She crazy is all I'm saying. Okay sure, please do go on crazy and love

All I am trying to say guys is are the the boss of the two guys Patrolman killed off at a one thousand dollar rewards a lot of money for the bodies of the great vine killers Usually wanted sign would say dead or alive, but he stated he just wanted the bodies then the Texas governor said hey I'll chuck another five hundred dollars on that bounty. So People at the law men, so to speak you're getting pretty upset That so many of them are being killed Public public hostility increased five days later when Barrow and Henry Methven killed 60-year-old Constable William Campbell a withered single father

Six-year-old Constable bloody hell mate. I know climb the ladder Six-year-old I know, climb the ladder. Six-year-old constable. That's brutal, come on. No, they did him a favor. Unless, hang on, hang on. Unless he had had a different career. Yeah, he came to it.

Maybe he was a pharmacist. Came to it later. A farmer or pharmacist? Either all of the farmers. He joined the police at 55. All right, the only good things about old police is that they're hard and old police. What like when you're an old newbie policeman you don't have

experience or fitness. You're the worst of both worlds. Yeah. Honestly. Now you're right. I hope you don't. He's dead. He's dead. He's on the bodyguard. Of course he is. Like he sounds like the most useless person in this whole story. And that includes the guy without a head. And Bonnie, without a leg. Yeah. Well fair enough, apparently, matters are spoken. Well, I'll try and see if we can out-useless him

with the remaining few people in the story. The gang kidnapped commerce police chief Percy Boyd. They drove around with him, crossing the state line into Kansas they let him go giving him a clean shirt a few dollars and a request from Parker to tell the word she did not smoke cigars. Yeah Nashia priorities are smart. That was the one thing about the articles. No but seriously I don't. I don't do it it's bad for you. I hate him. I will not be associated with those big corporate bastards. I don't I don't want to, it's bad for you. I hate him. I will not be associated with those big corporate bastards.

I don't, I don't want to be associated with anything that causes premature death. Especially, because. I was speaking of premature death, the Dallas Journal, Rana Cartoon on its editorial page, showing the Texas Electric Chair empty, but with a sign on it saying, reserved and clied and bonny underneath it. reserved and Clyde and Bonnie underneath it.

See, that's where they went wrong. It's Bonnie and Clyde, isn't it? It's enough fun, funny that it switched the other way. On May 19th, Henry Methven was one of the guys they broke out of jail before and has been hanging around killing with him, let's be honest. He was sent into a diner to get some sandwiches for the gang. While he was at the counter, a police car passed the diner and Clyde panicked and drove off, leaving Methven behind. He hitchhiked to Rustin where his parents were living at the time. Methven told his father the gang, had planned a spot for a rondo view in the event that any of the gang was separated. Methven was supposed to meet the gang on a deserted stretch of highway, but a certain place.

His father, Ivan, who was being harassed by the law because of his son's connection to the gang, told of this meeting place to a Louisiana sheriff who then passed it on to our main man, Ranger Frank Heymann. In exchange for the info, the older Methodan was promised that his son would not get the death penalty for the murders of the troopers in Great Vine two months earlier. So he made a deal for his son. Then on May 23, 1934, the older Methven, of Arn Methven, parked his truck near the meeting spot and removed one of the wheels as if he was removing a flat tire. When Bonnie and Clyde stopped to assist meth,

because they're making us his father, their friend's father. That is brutal. It was actually an ambush as Hamer and six men were hiding in bushes across the other side of the road. The Lorman immediately opened fire, killing Barrow and Parkack, Bonnie and Clyde, and instantly. She said, came out of nowhere Dave. I needed a little bit more of a warning before It's it. Well, they were shot. They shot a total of 130 rounds at the

And now we're trying to help out a guy with a flat tire. Yes, pretty bad, isn't it? One of the seven shooters was poster worker turned Sheriff one Ted Kilton! TEEEEEEE! From the beginning of the program, the guy who had had a crush on Bonnie, who, according to a statement made by Hinton after the shooting, this is a long statement, but he wrote, but it describes the situation. Each of us six officers had a shotgun and an automatic rifle and pistols. We opened fire with the automatic rifles. They were emptied before the car got even with us, before the car really even stopped.

Then we used our shotguns. There was smoke coming from the car and it looked like it was on fire. After shooting the shotguns, we emptied the pistols at the car, which had passed us and ran into a ditch about 50 yards on down the road. It had almost turned over, it kept shooting at the car even after it stopped. We won't take in any chances. Man, they were so afraid of them. Yeah, so reach out, so. A couple of people who can't even walk properly.

Yeah, they probably couldn't even get out of the car to be honest. Researchers have said Bonnie and Clyde were shot more than 50 times each. How many shots were fired? 130 rounds. Oh yeah. And 50 hit. That's not too bad. 50 H. That's 100.

No, not too many wasted bullets. Officially, the parish coroner who sort of examined their bodies reported that 17 separate entrance wounds on Clives body and 26 on parkers Including several headshots on each so they were shot a lot. They were dead. They were definitely dead They were sorry to go they weren't doing a bark and like living through Yeah, you're gonna go one way. It's just to get fucking killed He's a now the undertaker had difficulty in barming the bodies because of all the bullet holes. Why is he in barming him? Chuck him in a hole move on with your lives Brutal

Chuck him in a hole. Oh get to it. They're not gonna give him an open casket funeral. Why are you in barming them? Several headshots? Just it's very strange. Yeah, why would you bother packing their ass? I would not pack their asses Not if you paid me you could not pay me enough you could oh Man you'd have to pay me a lot to shut up to pack a bullet riddles But why are you with a life changing amount of money? I would I would pack it a bullet riddle asshole You put that on record? You're taking offers? What are we talking about? Life-ending 50,000 of...

No, I'm talking millions. Okay. 12. Does that put it out of your range? I can't afford it. I'm sorry. Well, when I die, I might have some great life insurance. That's true.

What happened next was the temporarily deafened offices that shot so much that couldn't hear. Inspected the vehicle and discovered an arsenal of weapons, including stolen automatic rifles. So what happened next was the temporarily deffoned offices that shot so much that they couldn't hear. Inspected the vehicle and discovered an arsenal of weapons, including stolen, automatic rifles, saw-off, automatic shotguns, hang guns, several thousand rounds of ammunition, along with 15 sets of license plates from various states. Word quickly spread of the ambush and the crowd soon gathered. The two sheriffs left to guard their bodies, lost control of the jostling curious crowd. One woman cut

off bloody locks of Parker's hair, pieces of her dress, which were subsequently sold as souvenirs. Another officer returned to find a man trying to cut off Clyde's trigger finger and someone was trying to cut off his ear as a remember memento that's disgusting yeah that was second by what was occurring in what a time oh Grace this is a people are sick fucks a sick bit um America in the 30s what a wild place so how how old were they like what year was it and stuff for that? So this is 1934, May 1934, which makes Clyde 24, Parker 23. Oh my God, that is amazing. See? You fall in with the wrong boys, you get yourself killed. Yeah. Better to just be alone forever. And she wrote a lot of poetry about that.

There's a photo shoot. She wrote called The Story of Bonnie and Clyde. And it's sort of, rights, they're pretty much waiting to die, because they're certain that that's their fate. Because by the, you know, they're killing a lot of people. It's pretty hard to come back from any other way. Oh. I did find this interesting. HD Derby, a young

undertaker who worked for the McClure-Raff funeral parlour in Houston near where they died. An ass packer. She came to, yes, absolutely. That's a reference to the death episode. Yeah, look it up. Pramation burial other. They came to Arcadia to identify the bodies of Bonnie and Clyde because they'd been kidnapped by the Barragang the previous year and they'd been released. A parker reportedly, Bonnie, had laughed when Darby had said his profession was an undertaker. She remarked that maybe someday he would be working on her. Oh. Darby assisted the head undertaker in enbalming the outlaws.

So it came true. It actually did come true. Bonnie and Clyde, they wish to be buried side by side, but Bonnie's family would not allow it. Mrs. Parker wanted to grant her daughter's final wish, however, to be brought home, but the mob surrounding the Parker house made that impossible. More than 20,000 people attended Bonnie Parker's funeral, and a family had difficulty reaching her grave site. There were so many people there.

That's awful. The life insurance policies of Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow were paid in full. They had life insurance? Since then, the policy of payouts is... I don't have life insurance. Yeah, but you don't have a really dangerous profession. Profession? You don't have a profession.

I don't. Since then the policy of payouts has changed to exclude payouts in cases of deaths caused by any criminal act by insurance. So these days, if you're a criminal on the run, don't bother ensuring yourself they're not going to pay. I can't believe they literally lived out of their car car but they made sure their insurance was up to days. Hey, they're pretty savvy business guys. They got stopped by a door to door. Salesman. In the car door to car door.

Hello. Can I interest you? And they pretend to not be home but they can see him that there's five people sleeping inside of the car. I can see you sir. But I can see your brain bug and so the fucking door. I reckon I really think you'd be interested. Mate, you've got what, max five days to live.

If you get shot in the back, you're done for. Are the six men of the posse who had shot the ambush were each to receive one sixth. There it is. Of the reward money, the Dallas Sheriff had promised Ted Hinton that this would total more than $26,000. This is the poster work from before. But most of the state county and other organizations that had pledged rewards reneged on their offers. So in the end, each lawman received about $200 for his efforts.

Which even back then, not a lot of money. No, it's quite, I mean, it's a sizeable amount, but Bonnie and Clyde, sometimes they'd rob a bank and they'd get a couple of thousand in one go, so it's not that much. Oh, oh. And we'll say. We're nagging on that. It's dodgy, isn't it?

Yeah. Just in the aftermath, one of the reasons that the Barragang had been so successful and alluded capture for a few years is that at the time of the robberies, lawmen from each state couldn't chase them over state line, or they no longer had jurisdiction. So Clyde had been a master of pulling a job on one side of the border and then quickly driving across. So no one could

could sort of pull them over, I guess. But by the summer of 1934, the following summer, new federal statutes made bank robbery and kidnapping federal offences. And the growing coordination of local jurisdiction by the FBI overall, plus two way radios in police cars so they could talk to each other, combined to make the law, outlaw bandits squeeze much more difficult to carry out, like as little as two months later, was pretty impossible to do what they were doing. So this was the end of the public enemy's era. It's interesting that it sounds like if it wasn't for that photo of Bonnie with the cigar that they wouldn't have become so interesting. Yeah, they wouldn't have been so famous, that was a big part of their infamy.

Was she a bit of a babe too? Yes, apparently she was very good looking. Yeah, that all adds up. They always are aren't they? The bad girls. And he? He looks pretty good looking in the photos, I guess. He's not as good looking as Warren Beatty in the film version. Of course. But I just, some, I will say these aren't fun facts, but two final facts. Tell me if they're fun. Well, do you have you guys ever heard of high bristophilia? High bristophilia. High bristophilia. No. There's a parapherilia in which sexual arousal and attainment of orgasm are responsive to a pot and contingent to upon being with a partner known to have committed an outrage,

cheating, lying, known for delities or crime. Oh, okay. So sort of like people who fall in love with bad boys, like serial killers getting stuff written to them, by people that are attracted to them. It's also known as Bonnie and Clyde syndrome. Ah! Named after body's fascination with Clyde, the super bad boy.

He was super bad. Super bad. And a boy. And a man, a final note, Henry Methven, whose father dobbed in Bonnie Clyde, and ambushed them in exchange for his son to avoid the great fine murder charges, but he did, however, his arrangement did not include the murder of Constable Campbell. Oh, no. Extra-died to Oklahoma, Methven was found guilty of the officer's murder, and sentenced to death to 7,935. Oh shit!

His sentence was, however, commuted to life in Prisman the following year and he was paroled in 1942. Oh, okay. He remained in trouble with the law throughout the rest of his life. He did not get off easily. In November 1945, he was jailed for fighting and carrying a shotgun. He was arrested again for attempted robbery and drunk driving in Louisiana, both of those serious crimes, one more serious than the other would say. In 1948, Methan was intoxicated whilst attempting to cross a railroad track,

and was killed by an oncoming train. Although it has been speculated that his death Ferry's curse, do you think? It could be the Ferry's curse or it could be retribution for the deaths of Bonnie and Clyde, especially after the similar death of his father, Ivan Methven, 16 months earlier. However, no evidence of foul play has ever been produced. Lady Metric and Claude met, I think it is the curse of Tudon, come on! Stracking. Tudon, come on.

Several thousand years after yeah, yep Wow, so that's your guys that is the story of Bonnie and Clyde. I really feel for methens dad Yeah, that sucks He sort of would you I know you probably do the same thing though these guys were going around killing a lot of people That's a great story There's a great story and a great podcast. Thank you. Five stars if you got it in your heart. I don't want to point this out but someone has one star to Sun iTunes. I don't want to point this out but I'll point it out. If you

want to, if you are like meth-fenn and want some justice in this world, get on iTunes, give us bloody five star. One star can, that really denigrates the overall average. I will just say a denigrate so big time So denigrated I feel denigrated, but um that is the yeah, that's the story of Bonnie and the client super interesting I really enjoyed that I had a great time Matt yeah, I enjoyed myself. It's a fucking sad story No one really No winners in there.

Happy ending for anyone there, except us. And the guy who got to kill his crush. Yeah, that's fun. Oh, you're a weird thing to do. Super weird, isn't it? He's not even a cop at the time when he knows he becomes a cop and then ends up being one of the six people asked to shoot him down.

So he knows what he's there to do. I guess yeah, at six of them, no one fills the guilt on their shoulders themselves. But, you know, do you still have the same crush as you did in high school? Nah. It's only a few years later. Well say, it's only four or five years after his crush.

Yeah, I still know. There's crushes I had four years ago that now I don't have. It's hard to work. So far, there's a difference between not having them and murdering them. Yeah, and I could murder people I had a crush on. Really? Four or five months ago, even. Really? You could shoot them in the head several times.

Shoot them. Give me a hundred daily rounds. And they're, are we talking criminals? No, really nice people. Well, let's hope that you never fall in love with a matter of eye. I'm never falling in love ever. Remember? Oh yeah. You've got a fuckhead Dave. Oh yeah love a battlefield. All right so that's the end of the show. Thank you so much for listening to the tale of Bonnie and Clyde. As tall. Parker and Barrow. Parker and Barrow remember that for trivial pursuit I reckon it's gonna come up. Yeah well. Classic trivia question. Do we have, oh, we got a Melbourne comedy festival shows coming out very soon. We like to see us live and in the flesh, I'm doing a comedy, will we in the flow?

I'll have my flesh on display, probably not all of it. Actually, one of the games, I'll do a quiz show called Fact Effect versus the audience. And one of the games, if you come on the right night, you get to see a photo of me naked but you know I'm wearing it. He's selling the show. Yeah I am. I am. That's a quiz show with guests at the Imperial Hotel for the first two weeks of the Comedy Festival which starts opening weekend is Easter weekend and of March. Maybe you'll have Jess and I on as guests. Definitely you will be both.

I'm just trying to think should I have a do-go on special? We'll be trying to get you both on. But who would be the weird, because it's a team of three comedians competing against the audience. Who would you like to have a weird, yeah? You said weird, we could get, we know a few weird people. We could probably discuss this off the podcast, yeah. So I'll tweet about that when we do that. Jess, you're part of the Comedy Zone, a showcase of great new up-and-coming talent. I am. It's on a trade's haul for the entire run of the festival. So it's 22 shows. So you literally have no excuse. If you are not there, you better, you better be dead.

That's the excuse we're taking. If you've been shot 50 times, I'll accept it. I'll allow it. Matt, your show split show with the wonderful, the only Andy Matthews tells about that. Yep. It's called logistical Not-Man and it's... It's turning out to be one, isn't it? Yeah, because he's moved to Sydney since we saw the show, or we started talking about doing the show, but he's coming back down for it.

That's the plan at the moment. Thank goodness. And it should be really good. It's on a Tuxedo cat in the second half of the festival. In Melbourne, if you're not in Melbourne, of course. If you're not in Melbourne, just listen to the other episodes of the show. And I'll fly down.

Oh yeah, of course. Or up or across, depending on where you are. Tickets and links and everything are at comedyfestival.com.au. Check that out. Thank you so much. We'd love to see people there. You can always contact us with Twitter, at DoGo, on pod.

Do we have a hashtag for the week? Because people, if you've got any suggestions for topics, keep them coming in, we get them trickling in every week. Yeah, we totally do. And either I can, my next one, I'm gonna do one from the hat. I pulled one out of the hat for next week. And you were saying you're excited? Yeah, it's an interesting topic.

I've already looked in order a bit and it's fascinating. Good luck. Well guys, if you got those fascinating topics please, of course if you're not on Twitter, we're on Facebook as well. Just said to do go on and email dogoonpodantgmail.com. So I guess that's it for the week. Matt's going to be back with that report from the hat next week. Thanks so much for listening and we'll talk to you then.

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