Do Go On - 19 - Bonnie and Clyde

Episode Date: March 2, 2016

Bonnie and Clyde are the most famous criminal duo in history. Dave talks us through the public's fascination and ultimate disgust with the outlaws who made it big all because of one photo. A couple of kids hopping around, robbing, kidnapping and killing a lot of people... Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Hello and welcome to Do Go On, a podcast hosted exclusively by me, Jess Berkins. Hang on a second. My guests who are temporary. My temporary guests this week.

We're not even on for the full app. Matthew Gerald Stewart. That is not his middle name. And David James Warnocky. Correct. That is actually. James. mine as well. How have we never discussed

that you have the same middle name? We may have. We probably have. I'm sure. All our moms have Anne in their names. That's right. And all of us have James. Your middle name's James is James, as well. Yeah, it is. James Anne. James Anne Perkins. I was making up Dave's and then realized halfway through that I was saying the correct

name. That's the correct name. How are you, Jess? I'm pretty good. Thank you for giving me a chance to intro. It was no good. And you will do it from now on. I thought the tone, style, great, but the fact that you introduced Matt and I is temporary guess means you will never have that privilege again. Fair enough. I just want to be the star. You are the star already.

You just don't need that little intro bit of the star. Okay. Now, people like you for your hateful soul. It's the adorable exterior with the bitter, bitter core. And Matt, how are you? I'm really good. You're not bitter. You're just a happy chappy.

Mate, couldn't be happier. Luffs. Happy chappy. Wonderful. That's pretty peachy. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

Hear that positivity and optimism of his voice? Everything about things is good. That's right. Num, num, numb, numb. Laugh is delicious. It totally is. Perk up, Perkins. Perk up.

Hashtag perk up. Just, do you want to tell everyone what this show is? I haven't heard before? Because I didn't do that in my intro. This is a trivia comedy fact-based podcast where each week, one of us, We take turns each week. We're one of us. Yes.

Doing really well. Presents a school-like report, if you will, on a topic of our choosing, and presents fun facts to the other two, and you learn and you laugh. That's nearly accurate, but fun facts is your thing. Oh, that's my thing.

Not every report will contain fun facts. I don't believe mine will finish fun facts, because today it's my turn to take the lead with a report? Because the whole thing will be fun. Exactly. You don't need fun facts if you're all. Let me know at the end if I've spliced in, sort of sprinkled across some fun facts throughout

the next hour of your life. Great. All right. So should we just get straight into it, Matt? Yeah, let's get stuck in. Yeah, but look, I'd like you to put the fun facts at the end where they belong, no. But num, num, num, num, num, life is delicious. I am a maverick.

I like to fun fact. So I like to keep the listeners interested rather than them skipping 50, minutes to the end of the podcast. Some people are, they're like, oh, Mary Poppins. I don't know. I've seen that, but I don't know. I want the fun facts at the end, 50 minutes, skip. Skip, okay.

Yeah, no, he's onto something there. Hey, who cares? We get the downloads. Now, my next episode, I'm going to put my fun facts, bang in the middle. Ah. Yeah, find them now, you get turds. Oh, but you said bang in the middle, so I'll just say it.

Oh, exactly. An hour and 14, they'll be like, oh, 37 minutes in. Damn it, Perkins. That's how it looks. Well, guys. I like it when I make me. Matt laugh. I don't know why. I find it really gratify. Yeah, he's a tough cookie to crack. But when you get him, sometimes he spasms out of control.

He just has such a little chuckle. It's great. It is great. Well, I'm going to try and get you chuckling on this show. Matt? Well, I will. I'm just trying to steer the ship on track here, people. We often start to get into my report with a question. Guys, we are going into the underworld. My first question is, who do you think is the most famous criminal in History. Oh, famous criminal.

Okay. Ned Kelly. Very good. Famous criminal. Jack the Ripper. Worldwide are we talking? We are definitely international. Charles Manson.

How about I say, who are the most famous criminal duo? Bonnie and Clyde. Yes. Very good. Yeah, the number one are they? What do you think? Who are you thinking? Someone.

Bloody George Clooney and Brad Pitt stealing all those hearts. Oh, very good. In the oceans movies? Yes. And they also committed crimes. Oh, yeah, they did too. You're right. Oh, yeah.

How about haul and oats? Stealing all them hearts. On the dance floor, though, am I right? Stealing all that. What about... Jesus Christ. He's literally already said what the topic is, so now... Please explain to me the duo and the criminality of Jesus Christ.

Well, the father, the son and the Holy Spirit. Yeah. That is a trio. He's a triaditch. He's a triptitch of crime? No, not at all. Well, he was a criminal, though, because he, like, he was persecuted. Oh, he was persecuted as a criminal, I imagine. Okay, pretty enough, I like that slide.

I think that's very good. Persecuted. Still, he's only one. He's only one man. I did a drama solo in year 10 of Bonnie and Clyde. I mainly played Bonnie. Oh? But I did.

Did a little bit of, you dabbled? Oh, yeah. Because you got to do multiple characters. So what was the text? Was it pre-written, or did you have to devise a piece? Or what was your... No. Yeah, yeah, had to devise a piece.

So do you know a bit about Bonnie and Clyde then? Some facts will come back to me, but I can't really pull much out right now. That's okay, because I've got, Matt, how about you? Do you know much about the other? I reckon I at one point, flipped over and saw a movie of like a biopic about them. Maybe one from the 80s. Was it like a... I had the guy that played Dick Tracy in it.

The one that you're so veins written about. You know that guy? Well, the most famous film is... You can't think of his name. Warren Beatty. Yeah, that's the most famous. That's 1967, that movie. Fuck off.

Warren Beatty. Really? You said 80s. Did you say 80s? Yeah, I thought it was from the 80s. Yeah, it's actually, I watched the movie on this weekend. 67. How old is Warren Beatty?

Still alive, so is Faye Dunaway. You know who's also in it? Gene Hackman, quite young. And also there's a cameo from Gene Wilder, Willie Wonka. I love Gene Wilder. It's actually quite a good film. Double Jane. Not that accurate to the story of their lives.

Luckily, I didn't base the report on that film. But it is, It's really well directed. It was a landmark movie in cinema because it's one of the first films to depict on-screen violence in a very graphic way. So before that, people would get shot off camera or they wouldn't see it. But in that, people get shot in the face. I accidentally stumbled upon a clip on YouTube the other day. I was stuck in a YouTube vortex.

Oh, tell me about it. And it was some kind of musical number between Bonnie and Clyde. Was she like an actress? Was she wanting to make it big in Hollywood or something? Did I make that? No, that would have been. It was a dramatization. I was thinking of not Bonnie and Clyde, but Sonny Bono and Cher.

Or Jayzee and Beyonce. That's who I was watching Jayzy and Beyonce. O3, Bonnie and Clyde from the year 2003. Oh, they did a, like, a musical clip. One of the song is, like a musical. Well, in the film, they play like a modern day, Bonnie and Clyde. You know that song? Me and my girlfriend.

That song, that's Jay Zee. I need a little. I'm going to need a little. Yeah, a bit more. I don't know. It's me and my. my girlfriend. That's all I know.

Jay-Z. And then he does a lot of rapping. Beyonce, it's the clip that... He does a lot of rapping. Also, that song is where they got together. He's got a career based on that, mate. You know that?

Making that song is where Jayze and Beyonce first coupled up. Yeah, well, he's a millionaire because of his... He's a lot of rapping, okay? Yeah. What do you do? Write some bloody jokes. Good on you. Well, I don't give us a joke, Dave.

If you're so good at rapping and joking all the time, I assume that's what... I wasn't listening. Is that what he said? He's great of rapping and joking. He said, I'm excellent. We'll give us some joke raps, mate. I'm better than Jay Z, he said. My name is Dave.

Oh, no, no, abort, abort, abort, no, don't know. Bonnie and Clyde played by Faye Dunaway. Yeah. That's pretty good. Do you know that film, 1987, Bonnie and Clyde to steer this back on track? Nominated for 10 Academy Awards. Ten to tie it back to her. Including Warren Bedi and Faye Dunaway getting, do you know that Warren Bedi has been nominated for 14 Academy Awards?

That's a lot. Isn't that crazy for Ravis? writing, directing, acting. He's quite a popular... Amazing. Actor guy. Anyway, this is... Old white guy, getting a lot of...

I guess he wasn't always an old white guy. He was always a white guy. He was always a white guy. He was always white. But anyway, Bonnie and Clyde, here they are. Bonnie and Clyde, we're part of what is known as the public enemies era. Operating through the US Great Depression in the 1930s. 1930s.

So people were very, very poor. But then there were some famous outlaws that were sort of enemies of the public. because of what they were doing. And the other super famous public enemy from this era is John Dillinger. So they're enemies of the public. So the public aren't even happy with them. I thought they could be like Ned Kelly types or like Robin Hood where they steal from the rich. Well, we'll talk about their profile, definitely, yes.

So it started well. I'm getting too far ahead of ourselves. No, it started well for them, but then in the end they did become enemies of the public. But let's start with Bonnie. Do you know her last name? Clyde. Bonnie Clyde and Clyde Bonnie,

correct. No, it's Bonnie Parker. Yeah. I don't think that's right. That doesn't sound right to me. Oh, sorry, Bonnie Elizabeth Parker. There it is. Was born in Rowena, Texas in 1910.

Rowena. She was the second of three children. Her father, Charles Parker, was a bricklayer who died when she... Middle child syndrome. That's right. But he died when she was just four years old. Her mother worked as a seamstress, who moved the family to a poor suburb known now as West Dallas.

So this is starting out in Texas. In a second year in high school, Parker met classmate Roy Thornton. They dropped out of school together and were married on September 25th, 1926, six days before she turned 16. Oh, she got married at 15. 15. Damn, you know what I did at 15? I got my ears pierced for the second time, like the second holes in the year. Really?

Yeah. Both classic signs of rebellion. Yeah. And my mum was like, that looks nice. I love marriage as rebellion. Well, at 15. Yeah, it definitely is. But I like to think that it is forever.

Like 35-year-olds get married. Yeah, your parents are there walking in down the eye. That's your speech? Yeah. Cop this dad. Yeah. So was her husband's name for Roy? Roy Thornton.

But I wouldn't bother writing his name down because their marriage were marked by his frequent absences and brushes with the laws. He was a bit of a crim himself. And it was very short-lived. They broke up. She never saw him again after January 19, 29. however they never officially divorced

and she was wearing his wedding ring when she died. She never took a lot. Sorry to say. Spoiler alert. She was born in 1910. Yeah, so she may have died. Of old age.

Super old age. In a nursing home. Last week. Surrounded by her medals of valour. Still, 106. Too young. Rest in peace. So sorry, how long were they married for?

I'm really fascinated by this. They're still married. Oh yeah, I know. Okay, but... Yeah, that's right. She never saw him again. after 29, so three years. So for three years.

But they'd broken up before that. Imagine being married and broken up by like 17, 18 years old. Been there done that, marriage. Yeah, imagine. What's next? After the marriage ended, she lived with her mother and worked as a waitress. One of her customers was the postal worker Ted Hilton, who said Med would often hit on the good-looking parker

and later admitted that he himself had a crush on her. But we'll get back to Ted a little bit later. Ted Hinton, H-I-N-T-O-L. I'm noting that down because you're alluding to them. I think something's going to happen with our old mate. Ted. No, no, she's Bonnie. Wait, which one's Bonnie again?

Bonnie Parker. Bonnie Parker. Out of Bonnie and Clyde, who do you reckon is the girl? Well, I mean, Dave's only said it 17 times so far. So, I mean. So Bonnie's the girl. I'm going to write that down. Bonnie equals girl, right that.

And Clyde equals boy. Okay. Let's talk about Clyde. Do you know his last name? Bonnie Parker and Clyde. Clyde Deviner. Can you get his first letter? Starts with a B.

Benson. I actually don't know. Okay, Clyde Barrow. Okay, I didn't know that. So Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow, it's a classic, classic trivia question you'll have in trivial pursuit a lot. Either what is their last name or Barrow and Parker are the surnames of which famous crime duo. So remember that one out there if you're playing trivia, he was hit. Clyde Chestnut Barrow was born.

That's his middle name. How good is that? Also, aka Clyde Champion Barrow. He went by two names. Not chestnuts better. It's not Chester, you know, which is an actual name. It's Chestnut. C.C. Barrow is great.

He was born in 1909, making him one year older than Bonnie. He was born into a very poor farming family in Ellis County, also Texas, which was the southeast of Dallas. He was the fifth of seven children whose family migrated to Dallas in the early 1920s as part of a wave of resettlement from impoverished farms to an urban slum

known as West Dallas. So he also moved to West Dallas. The Barrow spent their first months in West Dallas living under their wagon. Under their wagon. And eventually they upgraded to living in a tent. As a teenager, Clyde attempted to enlist in the US Navy, but lingering

effects from a serious boyhood illness, possibly malaria or yellow fever, no I never really knew, resulted in him being rejected on medical grounds, which was a hard blow for Clyde who had already tattooed USN or US Navy on his left arm, which after talking about tattoos last week, I don't think they would have had laser removal back in the 1920s. It's a bit eager, isn't it? That is eager.

Getting the tattoo before the job. What can you change that to? What was it, USN? US. You could call it to Puss not. bus now Bus now. Bus now. He could become a bus driver.

Bus now. Bus now. Just sort of wraps around his arm. Yeah. Bus no. And he refuses to get on buses. Ah. Yeah, I think I like that the most.

That's pretty good. Look, I think that was worth stopping the conversation before. I think we've saved the day for old Clyde. Nothing bad's going to happen to him. Or is it? Barrow was first arrested in 1926 for automobile theft after failing to return a car he had rented in Dallas to visit an estranged high school girlfriend.

The rental car agency dropped the charges, but the incident remained on his record. Can you imagine renting a car to a 16-year-old kid? Yeah. Who has USN tattooed on his arm? Yeah. Fair enough. I would.

Yeah. I've done it a couple times this week. I trust him. Yeah. I think he's a good guy. Misunderstood. Perhaps. He's a chestnut, that kid. He's having a little bit of bad luck.

You know, he didn't get into the Navy. mate, take the car a bit longer. He forgot to return it. That's fine. But three weeks later, he was arrested again alongside his older brother, Ivan Buck Barrow. Better name.

For an even more serious crime, possession of a truckload of stolen turkeys. Oh my God. So he started with the big crimes, this guy. Is that the official crime? Is that what it's written down in the law? Is that a metric measurement? A truckload of turkeys?

No, no, this is genuine gobble, gobble, live turkeys. They stole a truck full of... How many is a truck full? That's what I want to know. Yeah, how big is a truck, Dave? How big is it? Because it could be like a little budget truck. No, no.

We're talking about a 78 tonner. I don't know what that means. 78 tonne. That is a big truck. No, that's the big turkey. It's a big turkey. 78 ton turkey. Solid of giant turkey.

Yeah. Hey, this guy was a criminal mastermind. Hey, fuck, I hear that there's the world's biggest turkey living in the farm next door. Let's go steal it. And it's the biggest by. like thousands of times. Yeah, that's right. He's literally king of the turkeys.

Literally. He's got a crown on everything. He's been knighted. Kings get knighted, right? Oh, God. He sits on a turkey throne. But if he's the king, he has to knight himself. Yeah.

I dub me, Sir Turkey King. All hail, Sir Turkey King. All hail, all the other turkey stud hailing. It's quite aub. a good turkey impression. Not a bad turkey. I'll have a go.

I will not. Come on, Matt. It's really fun. Come on, man. It's really fun. Do it in an English voice so you get to get away of your English accent. A English turkey. I find both of those things difficult.

Oh, oh, oh, I actually think you nailed her. Because just what way with it was like a very hoiky-toity head. I'm not very confident about this. Oh, wow. I am having fun doing a silly voice.

Ooh. So good, man. Your face is saying, fuck you right now. I don't know if you know that, but your face is looking at me and your eyes are saying, fuck you. I know your mouth is saying it. Fuck you. There it is.

Several accounts described Bonnie and Clyde's first meeting, but let's go with this one, because that's the one I found the most sources for. Bonnie Clyde met, pardon me. Bonnie Parker met Clyde Barrow on January 5th, 1930 at Clarence Clay's house, who was a friend of Clyde. Clarence Clay, that is a cracking name. So Bonnie was...

It's such a good one, isn't it? Bonnie was out of work and was staying in West Dallas to assist a female friend who had a broken arm. So she's a nice girl. We're painting that picture. Clyde dropped by the girl's house while Parker was in the kitchen, making hot chocolate. Oh, that's quite nice, isn't it?

When they met, both were smitten immediately. Aw. Most historians believe Parker joined Barrow, that's Bonnie joined Clyde, because she was in love with him. Aw. But love will make you do silly things. But they were soon split apart because after sequential arrest in 1928, 1929,

soon after this meeting, he was sent to Eastham Prison Farm in April 1930. So just to be like... Turkeys. Well, yeah, and he got sentenced to 14 years in jail. It's only like 20 years old in 1930. But it's a prison farm. Which means you just have to do a lot of work. And hang out with some turkeys.

They're like, this guy's the turkey whisperer. Okay. Yeah, I'm the big turkey, right? Why are you whispering? I've got really small ears. It's hard to hear. I'm a turkey. How do birds hear?

That's a question I've never answered. Whilst in prison, back to the crimes, whilst in prison, which is East Ham Prison Farm. So that's quite important because he hates his place for the rest of his life.

Whilst in prison, young Barrow used a lead pipe to crush the skull of another inmate. Oh, shit. Ed Crowder, who was a seriously bad dude who'd been preying upon Clyde and other young

inmates and touching them up, so to speak. Oh. This was Clyde Barrow. He'd been doing it for over a year and Clyde had enough of it. So this was Clyde Barrow's first killing. Lead pipe. That is a Cludeau weapon. Over the head.

Crushed it. It is a Cludeau weapon. It is. But he didn't get in trouble for it because another inmate Aubrey Scaly who had been also been abused by Crowder. He was already serving a life sentence. He took the blame. He took the blank.

But he was actually pardoned by the governor in 1953. So this guy got off and they killed an awful. lawful man. Clyde Barrow, also whilst in prison, convinced another inmate to use an axed chop off two of his toes in order to excuse him from working hard labour in the fields. Wait, to chop off Clyde's toes. Yeah, so Clyde said, a bit like, you know, the chopper, the chopper, a famous Australian criminal famously got another inmate to chop off his ear so he get to go to the hospital ward

so he wouldn't be murdered by a gang that he'd pissed off in prison. He's like the 1920's chopper So he said can he chop my toes off So I won't have to work hard labour in the fields Which word, which worked I should say But sadly unbeknownst to Clyde His mother successfully petitioned to release for him Just six days after this intentional injury

Oh my god Barrow would walk for a limp for the rest of his life As a result of not having two toes I was going to say you've got to be careful Because it's balanced right Yeah but like if you lose your big toe You can't walk properly right Like you got to be careful which toe

The little ones, two little ones I can't confirm, but he also had to drive Barefoot for the rest of his life Okay, that has nothing to do with it, surely You might put a shoe on I do that, it's just comfortable sometimes Yeah, because thongs are tricky to work the pedals Yeah, so you better to take them off

Yeah, slip them off I find it kind of liberating too sometimes Yeah, it feels really good Just throw your thong off and drive Just bare foot on the pedal, it's nice Oh, it does feel good Yeah, you feel free You feel free, it feels like summer

Yeah You know? I just want to say to the American listeners, I want to say the US listeners that thongs are flip-flops. We're not throwing out underwear. The Americans call songs flip-flops. Yes. I knew that they do call them that someplace.

It's probably a better word. Flip-flops. Do they even have them, though? Oh, thongs is weird. Yeah, they have flip-flops, yes. They call them jandles in New Zealand. Jandles. Jindles.

Jindles. Jindles. Jindle. Jindle. Jindle. Jindle. Jindle. After Barrow was released

I don't think any of us nailed that No we did not at all Sorry New Zealand listeners Hello No I know the vowels are different But I forget which way A is

Like E Should I go on? Yeah probably Good After Barrow was released from prison When he was sort of bailed out by his mum In February 1932 He and a guy called Ralph Fultz

Assembled a rotating core group of associates They began a series of small robberies primarily of stores and sort of gas stations. He just doesn't learn, does he? Oh, no. Because some claim that Clyde's whole mission in life since being released was to get enough money to break out all the prison inmates of East Ham an exact revenge upon his mistreatment in prison.

So that's some people think that he was saving up for. He's saving up to break everybody out. Yeah, get a lot of money, get a lot of people, get a lot of weapons, and then just sort of get revenge upon... Because when he went, he was just a kid, and when he came out a few years later, He was a, like a hardened criminal, yeah. Wow.

Because of, you know, bad stuff had happened in there. On April 19th, Bonnie Parker, who was part of the group with Ralph Fultz, and Fultz himself were captured in a failed hardware store robbery where they intended to steal firearms. And subsequently, they were both convicted and jailed. But Bonnie was released a few months after a grand jury failed to indict her. Fultz, however, was prosecuted and tried, which some would say was a good thing because he never...

He served time when he got out of jail, never rejoined the gang. And he did do a few other crimes, but later got clean and lived to be 82 years old. Oh, good on him. He is one of the few people in the story that makes it too old age. Oh, spoilers. That is a spoiler. On April 30, Clyde was the driver in a robbery, also in Texas, during which the store's owner, J-N-Butcher, B-U-C-H-E-R, he was shot and killed. And when shown mug shots, the victim's wife identified Barrow as one of the shooters,

although he'd just been the driver and stayed outside in the car. Oh. But this was the first time in the crimes read that Barrow Clyde was accused of murder. Uh-oh. Bonnie was released, like I said, when a jury declined to indict her. Within a few weeks, sadly she rejoined Clyde and the gang. Oh, Bonnie. And in August, whilst Parker, Bonnie visiting her mother in Dallas,

Clyde, a guy called Raymond Hilton and Ross Dyer were drinking alcohol at a country dance when a sheriff and his deputy approached him in the parking lot. Not a good thing because Barrow, Clyde, and Hamilton opened fire killing the deputy and gravely wounding the sheriff. I shot the sheriff, but I did not shoot the deputy. It's actually the other way around, I'm afraid. I shot the deputy, but I gravely wounded the sheriff would be more. Is that what that song's about? Yes.

Yes, let's go with it. This was the first time Clyde and his gang killed. a law man. It was the first time for everything. You've got to kill a lawman at some point, don't you? Hey? It would all catch up with the gang member, Raymond Helminton, who's one of those guys that just shot a sheriff,

because by the time he was 21 years old, he accumulated a prison sentence of 362 years. That's it. Okay, hang on. I'm no good at maths. 362 years divided by the average lifetime. He's never getting out of prison. He's still in.

He's still in. No, he's not because he was executed on May 10, 1935. But his corpse will see out the sentence. That's right. They make him stay in the prison cell and rot. He was electrocuted by electric chair. Halmorton, he walked calmly and firmly to the chair, seated himself for the words, well, goodbye all.

Oh, yeah, no, cool. So, real badass, real badass. Yeah, if you're going to... Jolly good. Yeah. Okay, bye. I like it was sort of quite... It sounded like polite, old-timey language.

Well, goodbye, everyone. and I imagine he would have tipped his cap. He tipped the metal thing on top. You know, the bit of the... A dips me lid. Tips the electric chair lid. Oh dear. Yeah.

So he's gone. But another guy in the story, W.D. Jones. He's going to become part of the gang. He'd been a friend of Clyde and the Barrow family since childhood. And when he was only 16 years old in Christmas Eve 1932, he persuaded Clyde to let him join him and Bonnie. And he left Dallas, them that night. The next day WD Jones was initiated when he and Barrow killed Doyle Johnson,

a young family man while stealing the guy's car also in Texas. Less than two weeks later in January, Barrow killed Tarant County Deputy Sheriff Malcolm Davis when he, Parker and Jones wandered into a police trap set for another criminal. It's quite unfortunate. I should have been keeping a tally of how many people he's killed. I've got it written here. The total murdered by the gang since April was five. Okay. So in nine months, they've killed five people.

So they're not... Body count. Not great people. Yeah. I've got a tally going. Bonnie count. It's a nice even number for you so far, Jeff. So at the moment, we've got W.D. Jones, Clyde Barrow, Bonnie Parker, but they need more of a gang.

So in March 1933, Clyde's brother, Buck... Great. Buck Barrow. Was released... Buck Barrow. He was released from prison when granted a full pardon. So the prisons were really full at this time, I should say. That's why everyone was getting a pardon because they just didn't have enough places.

So people were getting like 25 years. 25-year sentences. And then after four years, we need the bed. So they're just sending him back out there. But who do you choose to get rid of? You know, who you're like, oh, well, like, surely you'd prioritize some of the pettier crimes.

How about a really honest guy? Really honest. Let me tell you about Buck. Buck stopped going to school at around age 8 or 9 because he enjoyed fishing and hunting far better, quote. Sure. Buck stopped. I stopped with him.

Oh, very good. Have you been waiting for that? only a few seconds he was the one I should say who was driving the... Worth the way. The truck full of stolen turkeys. Oh, okay.

So he was the driver. So Buck had met a lady called Blanche. Blanche. And fallen in love with her just days before being shot and arrested during a burglary gone wrong and not wanting to be away from his new love,

what he'd done is he escaped from prison by simply walking out the door. Yeah, good plan. Stole the guard's car, drove to his parents' place in West Dallas where Blanche was living. They got married whilst he was on the run, but Blanche wasn't interested in a criminal career, so she and members of his family urged him to turn himself in. So two days after Christmas

1931, his mother and wife drove him up to the gate of Huntsville Penitentiary Prison, where he told the surprise officer officials that he had escaped almost two years before and needed to resume his sentence, well, they welcomed him in. Amazing. What? That is, I like that. I like how it's just like, oh, yeah, I'll remember you. Yeah, where have you been? Yeah, great. Good to have you back. Come in, mate.

Turkeys are still there waiting for you, mate. Don't worry about that. There are a few things have changed. We've got a new cook, but you will love Sloppy Joe Wednesdays. So much fun. That guy who used to rape everybody, he's gone. Yeah, we clubbed him good. We clubbed him good.

He is full dead. You'll find it's actually quite a nice community now. Yeah. There's a crocheting club. Anyway, you'll figure it out. Yeah, you'll be right, come on. Did you want your old bed-based same room? All right, come on in.

Hey, everyone! Buck's back! Yeah! His room's still the same. He's got the same posters on the wall. And the warden used to go in there and just smell his sheep. Just imagining. Remember those time.

The turkey whisperer. I hope he's okay wherever he is. Buck and, so they're now Buck and Blanche Barrow. That's pretty good. It's pretty good. B.B. and B.B. So he was released Buck and I said Blanche didn't want a criminal career

But he didn't stay clean Because upon his release in March 1933 Buck in the company of Blanche Which I love that name Joined joined the younger brother Clyde Bonnie Parker and WD Jones In Missouri Where he participated in several armed robberies

Oh come on Buck He went from burglary to armed robbery Very very quickly Then why put yourself back into prison then You know if you do You've done your time, I know. And they didn't even seem to care that he wasn't there. Yeah, I think that's how full it was.

They're like, oh, yeah. What do you mean? I like how you're like, they didn't seem to care. I mean, in our act out, they didn't. Yeah. Yeah, very true. You've just locked that in. That's exactly how it happened.

Yeah. Dave just handed us a script, which someone dictated at the time. I was he being pursued? you didn't seem like he was in hiding. There was obviously forms for when he got married, so there was records of him doing things. Wouldn't have been that hard to find him. And he was hanging out in his parents' house.

Yeah, they didn't look very hard, did they? That's what I meant. For two years. It's not like he was there. You know how the East Coast a criminal gets out for like 12 hours and everyone, this guy was gone for two years and then handed himself in? Yeah. It sounds like he would have been free.

Like that was... Yeah, he was fine. That's what I mean. And then he did two more years. He went back in, learnt some better. bad stuff again. And then became an armed robber like the next day. This guy's an idiot.

Oh, Buck. The group now five strong, so you got Blanche, you got Buck, you got Clyde, you got Bonnie, you got WD. They attracted, uh, next they attracted the attention of law enforcement, not from crimes, but from their loud, laddish behavior. Laddish. They would drink, I just put that word in, to be honest, that was not a popular word back in the 1930s. They would drink heavily and party into the night, playing card games quite loudly.

How do you play card games loudly? Snap! And this was in a very... Go fish! What? Keep it down. Well, this is a very quiet area of town, so they told the... Told the sheriff and the lawman...

Checkmate! They told the lawman who assembled a five-man... No, Jess, that is a different... Oh, I apologise. That's not cards at all. I'm not good at games. Or is it? Probably, I'm sure there's a card game that you get to say, so bad.

too go on day Thank you The law man The law men I love this lawman Assembled a five-man car force In two cars in April To confront what they suspected were bootleggers

Living in the garage apartment So they didn't know that they were A wanted armed robbery gang So they sort of surrounded them But in their escape Clyde Jones and Buck Quickly killed a detective, McGuinness And fatally wounded another one

Constable Harriman Fatally Wounded That's another two Oh, fatally wounded. Yeah, so two more. Two more. The gang escaped, but what they did was they left behind, because it was such a kerfuffle,

most of their possessions in the apartment. Items included Buck and Blanche's marriage license, so now they know who they are. Buck's parole papers, which are only three weeks old. He's been out for three weeks. A large arsenal weapons, so they lost a lot of weapons. A handwritten poem by Bonnie. She apparently liked to write poems.

Sure. She didn't, it wasn't typed up on her iMac Pro. Unbelievably not. wouldn't hold that as high as the parole papers or the wedding certificate though. Just a fucking poem. Just write another one, you dumb bitch. Look, I mean, you've really turned on her there. And I don't think, I don't remember Dave ever saying that she was going, hey, forget that other shit.

I need my poem back. You're dumb. That is brutal. How many people have they killed so far? Seven. They've killed seven people. And your biggest fault with her is that she's. left some poetry behind

you dumb bit not you callous cow you killer all this it's like no poetry I draw the line but I will say the most important thing

for history that they left behind was a camera with several roles of undeveloped film because Bonnie Parker was sort of a bunning amateur photographer

she'd been taking a lot of photos on their journey the film was developed at the Joplin Globe which is a local newspaper and yielded many now infamous photos of Bonnie and Clyde and drones who were clowning around in the photos pointing weapons at one another and they published both the poem and the photos.

So the poem plays a part. That's right. And the poem was about them being on the run. So it made her look like a real badass. And one of the photos, which is very famous, and I will tweet this photo, probably when we put the episode out, included one of Bonnie clenching a cigar in her teeth and a pistol in her other hand. And it went out in the newly installed newswire, so across the country.

And so now the obscure five criminals from Dallas suddenly became front-page news across America, and they were dubbed the Barrow Gang. Okay, well, if I may, I would like to issue a formal apology to Bonnie. That's right. I will accept on behalf of her. I don't, well, I mean... I jumped onto the poem thing. I called her a dumb bitch.

Yeah. And then it all tied together, and it made sense why Dave mentioned it, because it was published in the newspaper. Exactly. That's the point, right? She is now a published poet. Yeah, she's a published poet. That's more than I can say.

Which is, um... None of my poetry has been published. Have you ever had a photo of you with a cigar and a handgun published on the front page of most newspapers in the US? I have not. I have not. So... Have you written much poetry, Jeff? Yeah.

That's so disappointed. Sadly, yes, I have. It's real sad. Have you got any of the top of here? This cheery demeanor is a facade. That sounds like the opening line of a poem, doesn't it? This cheery demeanour is quite a facade. Next line, please?

And then Dave wraps the rest. Please don't, Dave. My kettle gas, Paul. So, yeah, I just want to apologise to Bonnie. No, I will not show my poetry because it won't be as good as hers, and the world isn't ready for my poetry. I don't think they were ready for Monnies either, because she suddenly became very famous.

They became famous overnight, but they were especially surprised. Because in the photo, she looks like a real badass. She didn't actually smoke cigars. and she, there's debate over whether she actually ever fired guns in the robberies. Oh, wow. Before that the media was surprised that a woman could be such a badass. So that's why it became such a big news story.

And suddenly she looked like a cigar smoking, gun toting, like crazy woman? Yeah. But in reality, not so much. She's a total sweetie pie. That's for good, because like you said, they were just clanging around in the photos. They were 20-something-year-old kids. Yeah, so at this stage they're about 21-20. You know, killing people, but mucking about.

Mark at about 21, 22 years old. We've all gone through that phase. Yeah, remember that time he killed seven police officers and one calendar year, Matt? Yes. I said it was sorry. I said it was sorry. Stop bringing it up.

So they became famous outlaws, committed robberies, and even kidnapped lawmen. I love that words. Sometimes civilians when stealing their cars, but they usually release their hostages far from home, sometimes with money to help them get back to where they were going. So stories of encounters like this made headlines for the gang,

but so did their more violent episodes. So sometimes people would tell the story and people would laugh about, oh, they let people go with money. But then other times, the Barra gang did not hesitate to shoot anyone, civilians or officers who got in their way. And eventually the cold-bloodedness of their killings soured the public perception of the outlaw. So there was a bit of initial people are into it,

like fascinated by it. But then when they start hearing about several police officers and civilians getting gunned down. For no reason. Yeah. Then suddenly the... Well, there wasn't no reason. People got over.

I was stealing their cars. And they were in the way. Yeah, they were in the way. Sorry, yeah, of course. Sorry, yeah, no. Sorry, yeah, no. Of course. Geez, you've really got it in for this Bonney and Clyde gang, don't you, Jess?

I hate them. I hate them so much. Well, I'm going to say that it's not going to... It's going to get worse before it gets any better, guys. Good. But I will get better. Good. Yep.

Yep. Okay. So they were now famous, but this wasn't actually good for the gang, because they didn't ever want to be famous, but now they were famous, so they couldn't hide anywhere because they'd be recognized at any motels or restaurants before they could just rob a gas station

and then go into a town. Sure. There's a group of five people. Oh, bummer. And now they had to pretty much live and cook in their car and on the side of the road. Cook in your car. Come on, why are you animals?

Cooking in cars? Turkeys have been doing it for years. There are 78-ton trucks. Such a big turkeys. One day Clyde was driving and he missed a sign saying a bridge was out and he had a very, very bad car accident that left Bonnie with serious third degree burns to her right leg so severe that the muscles contracted and caused the leg to draw up. What? Some people report that she got acid, battery acid poured over a leg. Oh shit.

In some places you could see her bone. Oh, but then like they couldn't have taken her to hospital. No, so that's the thing. So throughout the rest of her life, she struggled to walk and either hopped was often carried by Clyde, who he himself struggled to walk. So it's a guy with a limp carrying a girl with a limp. So it's getting more and more desperate for them. They hid for a while to try and treat her burns as best they could.

But to get more money, Buck and Jones W.D. bungled a local robbery and killed a town marshal. And with their renewed pursuit by the law, they had to flee despite Parker's, Bonnie's serious injuries. Oh. And this is all just because she had the hots for this boy. See, this is why I'll die alone. Because no boy is worth this.

No boy is worth getting battery acid pulled all over my right leg. There, I said it. You'll say it. Just take it back. No. You're being hasty. You're jumping to conclusions. This could all work out well.

Yeah, come up. The acid might end up being like a... A superpower. Yeah, or something that maybe she'll one day... Or maybe she had cancer in her right leg she'll have it removed anyway. She had it burnt off, saved her life. Have you thought about that, Jess?

No, because that's ridiculous. The cancer was burnt by the battery acid. There's no proof that didn't happen. Love isn't real. Exactly. Is there proof that didn't happen? Love is a battlefield, and so is being on the run. Yeah.

Poetry, I think you would agree being the poet, poet laureate of the podcast. Oh, laureate? Mm-hmm. Wow. Pretty impressive. That is impressive. Sorry, no, no, poet laureate.

Oh, poet laureateeat. Pardon me, sorry. I don't have I don't have a way with words like you do Please do go on Thank you they The gang rented a place in Missouri To try and settle down again

They consisted of two cabins joined by a garage in the middle But they weren't very good I will say at not drawing attention to themselves So this is some of the things they did Are they playing card games loudly again No even worse than bingo and Were they shooting cards again How could it be worse than loud card playing?

they just acted rather suspiciously. They said it was for three people to live in, but then five got out of the car in front of the landlord and went inside the house, and he was like, okay, that's weird. Why don't you just say five? It would have been cool with it. Okay.

They paid wholly in coins, not in notes, which is easy to track. I love this. They backed into the garage, quote, gangster style for a quick getaway. Oh, that's great.

Gangster style. So if the cops come, you can just drive. drive through the door of the garage, which is pretty cool. That's great. I'm back in a car parks a lot. I didn't know I was doing it gangster style. I did parks his car in the garage gangster style.

Wow. I often pay for things with coins. Gangster style. Like chewing gum. Yeah, coffees. Small goods. You know. Laundry.

Items under $5. Machines that take only coins. You know how it is. They put newspaper on all of the windows. Okay. That's a bit suss right. Nobody likes the newspaper that much. But perhaps, yeah, exactly.

And people are looking at the newspaper going, hang on, hang on, hang on, that's you. But most suspiciously of all, I think we can all agree, Buck's wife, Blanche. Decided that she would wear Jodper horse riding pants, which apparently was uncommon in the area, Missouri, and people interviewed this fact 40 years later. That she used to wear Jodd Pants. Which they, quote, thought was suspicious. Yeah, horse riding. See, this is like the Mary Poppins lady

wearing pants again, you know? Suspicious. Something's going on with Blanche. She knows... But it's not just pants that she's wearing. She's wearing Jodpers. You don't even have a horse. Why are you wearing horse riding a horse right?

Yeah, for a quick getaway. She could get on a horse at any moment and ride away. Jodpers. Good on it. I say. Imagine them all they're all wearing. Clyde's wearing like a racing outfit. One's got like a pilot uniform.

Once got on the closest charter plane. Body's dressed as a pirate with a peg leg. Because her leg doesn't work. Oh, she's fucked. Now, so the landlord, the guy who was suspicious of them putting the newspapers up, gangster-style, paying in coins, told the sheriff, who was also suspicious. And wearing a pirate costume. Well, after putting the place under surveillance, I can only imagine wearing camouflage outfit.

He organised a group of officers who approached the cabin with machine guns and an armoured car. That's excessive. Imagine a 1930s. armored car. I'm, okay. It'd be pretty cool. That would be a cool car. So they approached and surrounded the building, but their machine guns were outmatched at a distance

by Clyde's rifle. He had a really powerful rifle that he stole, and he was able to hold them off. So the Barrow gang, they laid down fire and escaped when a bullet short-circuited the horn on the armored car, and the lawman mistook it for a ceasefire signal. That's amazing. They drove out gangster style, and the law guys did not. pursue the retreating bearer vehicle. They didn't follow them.

No, they were like, oh, see ya. They're like, oh no, they're driving away. You forgot your newspapers. But they drove out gangster style. Surely that would have told them something. Hang on. Maybe these guys are the criminals we're looking for. Although the gang had evaded the law again,

Buck had sustained a gruesome and ultimately mortal bullet wound to his head that blasted a large hole in his forehead skull bone Ew. Actually exposed his injured brain. Get out. Blanche, his wife, was nearly blinded by glass fragments in both her eyes. Oh, both.

What are the chances? Both in a really bad way. I mean, one ice bad enough. But come on, Blanche. Honestly, I'd be opening the door and pushing them out. You guys are liabilities now. Thanks. Well, they are.

Thanks, bro. Five days. Thanks, no, thanks. Five days later, the gang was camped at an abandoned amusement park, spooky, Scooby-Doo style. I think my favourite is spooky. Buck was going in and out of consciousness, but every now and then was... Five days later, he's still alive. But he could still speak when he was conscious.

He could still speak. But his massive head wound... You can see his brain. Yeah, so bad. He should be dead. And he'd lost a lot of blood. You should give him a pity bullet to the brain. Yeah, put him out.

Clyde and Jones had dug a great. for him because I thought he was going any time now. Brutal. Just kill him. If you're going to, if you're digging the grave, why make him live in pain for the life? Can't kill your brother. Because he's conscious every now and then you'd wake up every five minutes

and they'd have a gun to be said. They're like, oh shit, sorry. And what's he saying? No, no, no, I'll be all right. I'll be fine. Don't worry about me. I just need a drink of water. Yeah, you know, this will heal over.

I just imagine that slowly the skin just heals over. Like a little graze on your knee. I don't think that's how it happens. I don't think so. Well, the bloody. bandages which there were a lot of and injured Buck, so people could see his wound, caught the attention of locals

who told the police they were quickly identified as the Barrow Gang. Hey, there's just a guy down the road whose brain I can see quite clearly through his skull. That's a bit suss. Yeah. What are they up to? Also, it's an abandoned amusement park, spooky.

Bit suspicious. Local lawmen and approximately 100 spectators surrounded the group and the barrows soon came under fire again Bonnie Clyde and W.D. escaped on foot, but poor old Buck was shot in the bag. Oh my God. And he lived.

And he and his wife Blanche were captured by the officers. Buck hung on for another five days before dying. Oh my God. Shot in the back. When he got shot in the head. Surely did they get him to a hospital? Like, I imagine it's something that could be fixed. They got into a hospital, but he got sick.

and he just wasn't going to get better. They just put a new head, like a new top of his head on. Give him a new skull. Were they doing that back then? I don't think they were in the 1930s. I don't think they're doing that now. I think you can get a skull transplant. I reckon you can get a replacement, like, false skulling.

Yeah, you can get like a replacement, but I didn't think they were doing that. It's like a hard plastic bowl or something. I kind of wanted one of those. Or like a piece of metal. Yeah. When I was getting migraines really badly, my dad one time, I said, I wish I could have a head transplant. And he said, but then you wouldn't have your beautiful. face. And I said, oh, thanks, Dad. And continue to throw up because the migraines made me throw up a lot.

So from what I know about your relationship with your dad so far, Jess, is he thinks you've got a beautiful face and beautiful pins. Yes. What a great guy. That's really, it's very sweet. But I mean, if I was the middle part of your body, I'd be, I'd be like, what's up, dad? What about me arms? What do you think of me arms, dad? What do you think of my shoulders, you know? etc. I wouldn't ask that that feels a bit weird. He said approach your dad

with a clipboard with every part of your body. Good or bad? Tell me. Tell me. Nose? You like it? Should I keep it?

Covered by the face. That's part of my head. Oh yeah, sorry. Okay, pardon me. I forgot that. Shoulder? Should have that? Part of the legs.

Yeah. Toes. Let's go individually. Big toe. Second biggest toe. Keep it. Keep them all. Middle toe.

Out. All right. That's a weird thing. Over the next six weeks, The remaining three members, which is Bonnie, Clyde and WD, are they roamed far and wide committing small crimes when they needed the money. So they restocked their weapons and ammunition when they raided an armory in Illinois. So they're sort of travelling around, and they're not doing big jobs anymore, just enough to get by.

They've got WD with them. Why does everybody only remember Bonnie and Clyde? Yeah. Is it because of the romance factor? Well, we're going to get to WD right here. Oh, WD.'s going to die. WD. is going to die, and then it'll just be Bonnie and Clyde. That's where it is, Matt.

Matt, do you reckon W. W.D. is going to die? I reckon, yeah. Jones, he's dead. I'm wondering about this armoury. How, like, how good of an armoury is it? Okay. People are raiding it. Yeah, not very good.

Hey, these guys are pretty good. It's funny and Clyde we're talking about. Even though she... A couple of hobbly bloody... Exactly. They can't even walk either of them. By early September, they risked a run to Dallas to see their families for the first time in many months. Jones, W.D, continued on to Houston to visit his own mother and was arrested there without incident on November 16th.

Oh. Through the autumn... So, W. W.D.'s gone. through the autumn but not dead not dead he's not on the body count what's the body count

I was only at 7 because that's just how many people Clyde had murdered yeah I was going for just Clyde oh right I reckon you should count

the like buck as well just count all death all death but look we've already passed a lot of death well let's say too late now

we mess about I reckon add six add six seven in brackets plus six still plus six for Matt at the end.

Plus six. Great, got it. Through the autumn, Clyde executed a series of small-time robberies with a series of local accomplices while his family and Parker's attended to her now considerable medical needs. So she was having a big rest and Clyde was still doing different crimes with different people. He just can't help himself. No, he really can't. He can't.

He can't. He's a workaholic. January 1934, Clyde orchestrated the escape of Raymond Hamilton, who's that young guy. who's that young guy serving 362 years who's going to get electrocuted later on and a guy called Henry Methvin Methvin who will talk about lady You might want to write him down

Okay, thanks for the tip Henry Methvin We still haven't got Ted Hinton though No, we'll get there Henry Methvin We'll talk about a little bit later And several others So they escaped Raymond, Henry

And several others in the now infamous If you're a big fan of crime East Ham breakout of 1934 What a year it was. So remember how we wanted to break people out of prison? Yeah, it was a dream. So Barrow, Clyde, seemed to have achieved what historian Phillips described as his overriding goal, revenge on the Texas Department of Corrections.

So he got his mates out. He was pretty happy. But during the prison break, a high-ranking officer was shot and later died. Yes. This attracted the full power of the Texas and federal government for the manhunt for Bonnie and Klein. So they finally go, all right, that's enough. So I think he shot like a really high-ranking guy and they're like, no. Come on.

I've had enough of this. You can shoot some of our low-level plebs. The lawman. The top lawmen. The top lawmen. But honestly, this desk jockey deserved more. But the local guys, those desk jockeys weren't enough to capture Bonnie and Clare. They realized this.

So the Texas Department of Corrections called in Texas Ranger, Captain Frank A. Hamer, H-A-M-E-R, a retired ranger. Is that who Hamer Hall is named after? Very doubtful, because this is Texas and Hamehaw's in Melbourne. Interesting. All right. That's a good fact. That Hamehawall is probably not named after Captain Frank A. Hamer.

No, he meant that we're in Melbourne. Oh, right. Oh, I missed that. That's good. I'm writing that down. We are in Melbourne Write that down Methvin

Got him Anyway so Captain Frank A Hamer He was retired But he was given the task One last job Of quote Taking Bonnie Clyde And the Barrow gang

A big guy For 20 years Hamer had been a feared And admired ranger throughout Texas He had quote Acquired a formidable reputation As a result of several Spectacular captures

And the shootings Of a number of Texas criminals he was officially credited with 53 kills and had suffered 17 wounds along the way 53 now we're cooking on the body count you're going to add another plus 53 in short I'm just trying to paint the picture that Frank Hamer is a real badass

and you don't want him on your tail I like him why aren't there more movies about Frank Hamer yeah he is in the body and cloud movie I'll say that yeah just wants more I want more than one Hamer biopic well I mean he's killed 53 people

been shot 17 times. That's a story there. He's pretty cool. And he's got the Hamer Hall in Melbourne. Yeah. Well, he's got some credit then, obviously. Starting in February, Hamer became the constant shadow of Bonnie and Clyde,

living out of his own car, just a town or two behind the bandits, so he's following them everywhere. Well, just, like, follow them quicker. That is a really... I assume he's doing that too... So they don't realize he's tailing them. You know, how they normally hold back a little bit?

I think two towns is a bit too far. Yeah. Like if you're just trying to stay out of the rearview mirror, probably two streets or even, you know, 50 metres, not two towns. Two towns. Don't want to tell this guy how to do his job. Yeah, true. 53 kills. How many kills have you that?

What do we say? No, we're near that many. He knows what he's doing. Seven police officers, I believe we said attributed to you before. Six. Six in one calendar year, though. Seven. Seven.

Thank you. Yeah, well, seven. Lucky seven. That was I call out my lucky year. Piu, peo. Then we come to an ominous part of the story, which ominously called the Grapevine murders. Gross.

In April, so the guys... Frank's been trailing them for a couple of months now. On Easter Sunday, Clyde and Henry Methfin, as the guy, escaped, killed two young highway patrolmen near Grapevine in Texas, two more. An eyewitness account stated that Barrow and Parker, whose Bonnie fired the fatal shots, and this story got widespread coverage before it was discredited. Ah.

So the Great Fine Killings were recounted in exaggerated detail affecting public perception of the gang. So all four Dallas Daily Papers, the big ones in Texas, seized on the story told by this eyewitness, a farmer who claimed that he'd seen Bonnie Parker laugh at the way patrolman Murphy's head, quote, bounced like a rubber ball, unquote, on the ground as she shot him.

Bonnie. So she wasn't even there, but this guy said that. And then the story got circulated. several days later Do you think they mean like one of those super bouncy rubber balls You know those ones that just

Fly into the air That would be That would laugh at that as well That would be funny You know those ones The super balls And they go like 20 metres in the air

That would be like That would be funny If you see that A little bit less every time Yeah Yeah Like not to laugh at that. But even like even though you'd still be

Like a laugh now Shaking at the adrenaline Of shooting someone You'd still bloody laugh at that That's funny No doubt about that Hey, guys, funny's funny. Yeah.

Don't forget that. Oh, never. I felt that tattooed on my arm. Have you got a tattoo since we last spoke? Not yet. Not yet. Give it time. I will say this.

This is sad. Several days later, one of the officers who was shot his fiancé wore her intended wedding dress to his funeral. Creepy. Sparking photos and newspaper coverage. The eyewitnesses' ever-changing story was soon discredited, the one that said he saw the... the bouncing head and the laughing, but the massive negative publicity

against Bonnie in particular increased in the public the outcry for extermination of the survivors of the Barra gang. So the public perception is really tipped now they even want the female of the group shot. Even the female?

Which at the time... I will say this, they got Frank Hamer to come in. He was the third person they asked to pursue the first two guys. That's why they had to come out of retirement because the two Rangers they asked said they wouldn't shoot a woman. But he was like, I'm Frank Hamer.

I'll shoot anything. I've killed 53 people. What is there to lose now? I'll shoot anything. Give me a gun. I'll shoot a lady, no problem. The Highway Patrol boss, boss of the two guys that were just shot, including the one whose fiancé went to his funeral in the wedding dress.

Sorry, creepy. Don't go to the funeral in your wedding dress. What a psycho bitch. I think if anything, he dodged while he was hit by a bullet. He also dodged another boy. Oh dear. Does that bitch be crazy? But his boss?

She was heartbroken, Jess. She was crazy. I know you've decided never to fall in love. But don't take it out on other people who have. Happiness? Don't resent other people's happiness wearing their wedding dress at their partner. To a funeral. Don't resent them that happiness, Jess.

I'm not resenting her. Maybe you'll never wear your soon-to-be wedding dress at your partners. a funeral? No, I won't. Maybe you won't. I won't. That's your choice. She crazy is all I'm saying.

Dave, okay, sure. Please do go on. Crazy in love. All I am trying to say, guys, is that the boss of the two guys patrolmen killed offered a $1,000 reward just a lot of money for the bodies of the Great Vine killers, usually a wanted sign to say dead or alive, but he stated he just wanted the bodies.

Then the Texas governor said, hey, I'll chuck another $500 on that balance. So the law men, so to speak, are getting pretty upset that so many of them are being killed. Yeah, fair. Public hostility increased five days later when Barrow and Henry Methfin killed 60-year-old constable William Campbell, a withered single father. Six-year-old constable, bloody hell, mate. I know. Climb the ladder. 60-year-old constable.

That's brutal, come on. Nah, they do do do a favour. Unless, I know, no, no, no, hang on, hang on. unless he had had a different criminal. Yeah, he came to it. Maybe he was a pharmacist. Came to it later than a farmer or pharmacist. Either or the farmers.

And then he joined the police at 55. All right. The only good things about old police is that they're hardened old police. What, what, like, when you're an old newbie policeman, you don't have experience or fitness. You're the worst of both worlds. Yeah. Honestly, does this guy die? I hope he does.

Yeah, he's dead. He's dead. He's on the body count. Of course he is. Like, he sounds like the most useless person in this whole story. And that includes the guy without a head. And Bonnie without a leg. Yeah.

Well, fair enough. Apparently, Matt has spoken. Well, I'll try and see if we can out useless him with the remaining few people in the story. The gang kidnapped Commerce Police Chief Percy Boyd, they drove around with him, crossing the state line into Kansas. They let him go, giving him a clean shirt, a few dollars, and a request from Parker to tell the world she did not smoke cigars. Yeah, her priorities are spot on.

That was the one thing about the articles. No, but seriously, I don't. I don't do it. It's bad for you. I hate them. I will not be associated with those big corporate bastards. I don't want to be associated with anything that causes premature death. Especially cigars.

Speaking of premature death, the Dallas Journal ran a cartoon on its editorial page showing the Texas electric chair empty, but with a sign on it saying, reserved and Clyde and Bonnie underneath it. See, that's where they went wrong. It's Bonnie and Clyde, isn't it? Isn't that funny that it did switch the other way? On May 19th, Henry Methfin was one of the guys

that broke out of jail before and who's been hanging around killing with him, let's be honest. He was sent into a diner to get some sandwiches for the gang. Whilst he was at the counter, a police car passed the diner, and Clyde panicked and drove, off, leaving Methfin behind.

He hitchhike to Ruston where his parents were living at the time. Methven told his father the gang had planned a spot for a rendezvous in the event that any of the gang were separated. Methven was supposed to meet the gang on a deserted stretch of highway, but a certain place.

His father, Ivan, who was being harassed by the law because of his son's connection to the gang, told of this meeting placed to a Louisiana sheriff who then passed it on to our main man, Ranger Frank Heimer. In exchange for the info,

the older Methfin was promised that his son would not get the death penalty for the murders of the troopers in Grapevine two months earlier. So he made a deal for his son. Then on May 23, 1934, the older Methen, Ivan Methven, parked his truck

near the meeting spot and removed one of the wheels as if he was removing a flat tire. When Bonnie and Clyde stopped to assist Methven, because they recognised his father, their friend's father. That is brutal.

It was actually an ambush as Hamer and six men were hiding in bushes across the other side of the road. The lawman immediately opened fire, killing Barrow and Parker, Bonnie and Clyde instantly. That came out of nowhere, Dave. I needed a little bit more of a warning before. It's just over.

It's it. Wow, they were shot. They shot a total of 130 rounds at the two people. Oh, boy. And now we're trying to help out a guy with a flat tile. Yeah, it's pretty bad, isn't it? One of the seven shooters was postal worker turned sheriff won Ted Hilton. Ted.

From the beginning of the program, the guy who had had a crush on Bonnie, who, according to a statement made by Hinton after the shooting, this is a long statement, but he wrote, but it describes the situation. Each of us six officers had a shotgun and an automatic rifle and pistols. We opened fire with the automatic rifles. They were emptied before the car got even with us, before the car really even stopped.

Then we used our shotguns. There were smoke coming from the car, and it looked like it was on fire. After shooting the shotguns, we emptied the pistols at the car, which had passed us and ran into a ditch about 50 yards on down the road. It had almost turned over. We kept shooting at the car even after it stopped. We won't take in any chances.

Man, they were so afraid of them. A couple of people who can't even walk properly. Yeah, they probably couldn't even get out of the car, to be honest. Researchers have said Bonnie and Clyde were shot more than 50 times each. How many shots were fired? 130 rounds. Oh yeah. And 50 hit.

That's not too bad. 50 each. That's 100. Not too many wasted bullets. Officially, the parish coroner who sort of examined their bodies reported that 17 separate entrant wounds on... Clyde's body and 26 on parkers, including several headshots on each. So they were shut a lot.

They were dead. They were definitely dead. They weren't doing a buck and living through that. If you're going to go one way, it's just to get fucking killed. Now. The Undertaker had difficulty embalming the bodies because of all the bullet holes. Why is he embalming them? Chuck them in a hole.

Move on with your lives. Brutal. Chuck him in a hole. him in a hole. Oh, get to where they're going to give them an open casket funeral. Why are you embalming them? Several head shots. Just, it's very strange.

Yeah, why would you bother packing their asses? I would not pack their asses. Not have you paid me. You could not pay me enough. You could. Oh, man, you'd have to pay me a lot to shot up, to pack a bullet riddles. But a life-changing amount of money, I would pack a bullet-riddled asshole. You're putting that on record?

You're putting that on record? offers? What are we talking? Life changing? 50,000 or? No, I'm talking millions. Okay. 12. Does that put it out of your range? I can't afford it. I'm sorry. Well, when I die, I might have some great life insurance. That's true. What happened next was the temporarily deafened officers that shot so much that they couldn't hear. Inspected the vehicle and discovered an arsenal of weapons, including stolen automatic rifles, sawn off automatic shotguns, handguns, several thousand rounds of ammunition, along with 15, sets of license plates

from various states. Word quickly spread of the ambush and a crowd soon gathered. The two sheriffs left to guard the bodies lost control of the jostling curious crowd. One woman cut off bloody locks of Parker's hair and pieces of her dress which were

subsequently sold as souvenirs. Disgusting. Another officer returned to find a man trying to cut off Clyde's trigger finger. And someone was trying to cut off His ear as a memento. That's disgusting.

Yeah, they were sickened by what was occurring. What a time. Oh, gross. This is a... These people are sick fucks. This is a sick, but... America in the 30s. What a wild place.

So, how old were they? Like, what year was it and stuff for that? So this is 1934, May 1934, which makes Clyde 24, Parker 23. Oh my God, that is amazing. See? You fall in with the wrong boys. You get yourself killed.

Yeah. Better to just be alone forever. And she wrote a lot of poetry about that. There's a famous poem she wrote called The Story of Bonnie and Clyde, and it sort of writes how they're pretty much waiting to die because they're certain that that's their fate. Yeah. Because by the, you know, they kill a lot of people.

It's pretty hard to come back from any other way. I did find this interesting. H.D. Darby, a young undertaker who worked for the Maclura Funeral Parlor in Houston near where they died. An ass packer. She came to, yes, absolutely. That's a reference to the death episode. Yeah, look that up. Cromation burial, other.

They came to Arcadia to identify the bodies of Bonnie and Clyde because they'd been kidnapped by the Berra gang the previous year, and they'd been released. Parker reportedly Bonnie had laughed when Darby had said his profession was an undertaker. She remarked that maybe someday he would be working on her. Darby assisted the head undertaker in embalming the outlaws. So it came true. It actually did come true. Bonnie and Clyde, they wished to be buried side by side,

but Bonnie's family would not allow it. Mrs. Parker wanted to grant her daughter's final wish, however, to be brought home. but the mob surrounding the Parker House made that impossible. More than 20,000 people attended Bonnie Parker's funeral and a family had difficulty reaching her gravesite. There were so many people there. Oh, that's awful. The life insurance policies of Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow were paid in full.

They had life insurance? Since then, the policy of payouts... I don't have life insurance. Yeah, but you don't have a really dangerous profession. Profession? You don't have a profession. I don't. Since then, the policy of payouts has changed to exclude payouts in cases of deaths caused by any criminal act by insurance.

So these days, if you're a criminal on the run, don't bother insuring yourself, they're not going to pay. I can't believe they literally lived out of their car, but they made sure their insurance was up to date. Hey, they're pretty savvy business guys. They got stopped by a door-to-door salesman. In the car, knocking on the car door. Hello? Can I interest? And they pretend to not be home, but they can see him that this,

people sleeping inside a car. I can see you, sir. I can see you. I can see your brain, Buck. Answer the fucking door. I reckon I really think you'd be interested in this. Mate, you've got, what, max five days to live? If you get shot in the back, you're done for.

The six men of the posse who had shot the ambush were each to receive one sixth. There it is. Of the reward money, the Dallas sheriff had promised Ted Hinton that this would total more than $26,000. This is the postal work for him. but most of the state, county and other organisations that had pledged rewards reneged on their offers.

Jek. So in the end, each lawman received about $200 for his efforts. Which even back then, not a lot of money. No, it's quite, I mean, it's a size of amount, but Bonnie and Clyde sometimes they'd rob a bank and they'd get, you know, a couple of thousand in one go, so it's not that much. Oof. We're negging on that. It's dodgy hands, isn't it? Just in the aftermath, one of the reasons that the Barra gang had been so successful and eluded

captured for a few years is that at the time of the robberies lawmen from each state couldn't chase them over state line where they no longer had jurisdiction so Clyde had been a master of pulling a job on one side of the border and then quickly driving across so no one could sort of pull them over I guess but by the summer of 1934 the following summer new federal statutes made bank robbery and kidnapping federal offenses and the growing coordination of local jurisdiction by the FBI overall, plus two-way radios in police cars so they could talk to each other, combined to make the law outlaw bandit sprees much more difficult to carry out, like, as little as two months later, it was pretty impossible to do what they were doing. So this was the end of

the public enemies era. It's interesting that it sounds like if it wasn't for that photo of Bonnie with the cigar, that they wouldn't have become so infamous. Yeah, they wouldn't have been so famous. That was a big part of the infamy. Was she a bit of a babe too? Yes, so apparently she was very good looking. Yeah, that all adds up. They always are, aren't they, the bad girls? And he?

He looks pretty good looking in the photos, I guess. Not as good looking as Warren Beatty in the film version. Of course. But just to sum up, I will say these aren't fun facts, but two final facts. Tell me if they're fun. Do you have you guys ever heard of? Hybristophilia? No.

No. Hybristophilia. No. It is a parapheria in which sexual arousal and attainment of orgasm are responsive to and contingent to upon being with a partner known to have committed an outrage, cheating, lying, known fidelitys or crime. Oh, okay. So sort of like people who fall in love with people in prison. Yeah, so bad boys, like serial killers get stuff written to them by people that are attracted to them. It's also known as Bonnie and Clyde syndrome.

named after body's fascination with Clyde the super bad boy. He was super bad. And a boy. Final note, Henry Methfin, whose father dobed in Bonnie and Clyde and ambushed them in exchange for his son to avoid the great fine murder charges, but he did. However, his arrangement did not include the murder of Constable Campbell. Oh no. Extradited to Oklahoma, Methven was found guilty of the officer's murder and sentenced to death December 1935.

His sentence was, however, commuted to life imprisonment the following year, and he was paroled in 1942. He remained in trouble with the law throughout the rest of his life. He did not get off easily. In November 1945, he was jailed for fighting and carrying a shotgun. He was arrested again for attempted robbery and drunk driving in Louisiana, both of those serious crimes. One more serious than the other would say. In 1948, Methan was intoxicated whilst attempting to cross a railroad track and was killed by an oncoming train

although it has been speculated that his death Ferris curse do you think? It could be the Ferris curse or it could be retribution for the deaths of Bonnie and Clyde especially after the similar death

of his father Ivan Methven 16 months earlier however no evidence of foul play has ever been produced leading me to conclude Matt I think it is the curse of

Tuncun Kamun striking two times come on. Several thousand years after his death. Wow. So that's it, guys. That is the story of Bonnie and Clyde. I really feel for Methan's dad. Yeah, that sucks.

I don't know, you probably do the same thing. These guys were going around killing a lot of people. That's a great story. It was a great story and a great podcast. Thank you. Five stars, if you've got it in your heart. I don't want to point this out, but someone has one status on iTunes. I don't want to point this out, but I'll point it out.

If you want to, if you are like meth fan and want some justice in this world, get on iTunes, give us bloody five stuff. One star, that really denigrates the overall average, I'll just say. It denigrates it, big time. So denigrated. I feel denigrated. But that is the, yeah, that's the story of Bonnie and Clyde. That was super interesting.

I really enjoyed that. I had a great time. Matt? Yeah, I enjoyed myself. It's a fucking sad story. Yeah, it's pretty sad. It is. I know.

No one. really, it's no happy ending for anyone there. Except us. And the guy who got to kill his crush. Yeah, that's fun. What a weird thing. That's super weird, isn't it?

He's not even a cop at the time when he knows it. He becomes a cop and then ends up being one of the six people asked to shoot him down. So he knows what he's there to do. I guess, yeah, six of them, no one feels the guilt on their shoulders themselves. But, you know, do you still have the same crush as you did in high school? Nah. It's only a few years later, we'll say. It's only four or five years after his crush.

Yeah, still, there's crush as I had four years ago that now I don't have. It's hard. So, there's a difference between not having them and murdering them. Yeah, and I could murder people I had a crash on. Really? Four, five months ago even. Really? Oh really, you could shoot them in the head several times.

Shoot them. Give me 130 rounds. And these, are we talking criminals? Nah, really nice people. Well, let's hope that you never fall in love with Matt or I. I'm never falling in love. love ever, remember? She's not a fuck-haired, Dave.

Oh yeah, love a battlefield. All right, so that's the end of the show. Thank you so much for listening to the tale of Bonnie and Clyde. As told. Parker and Barrow. Parker and Barrow, remember that the trivial pursuit, I reckon it's going to come up. Yeah, it will.

It's a classic trivia question. Do we have, oh, we've got our Melbourne Comedy Festival shows coming out very soon. Yes. You like to see us live and in the flesh. I'm doing a comedy. will be in the... I'll have my flesh on display. Probably not all of it.

Actually, one of the games... I'll do a quiz show called Facti FACC versus the audience, and one of the games, if you come on the right night, you get to see a photo of me naked, but, you know, I'm wearing it. He's selling the show, or... Yeah, I am, I am. It's a quiz show with guests

at the Imperial Hotel for the first two weeks of the comedy festival, which starts, opening weekend is Easter weekend, end of March. Maybe you'll have Jess and I on as guests. Definitely, you will be both. I'm just trying to think, Should I have a do-go on special? We'll try and get you both on.

But who would be the weird... Because it's a team of three comedians competing against the audience. Who would you like to have... You said weird. We could get... We know a few weird people. We could probably discuss this off the podcast, too.

Yeah, we could. So I'll tweet about that when we do that. Jess, you're part of the comedy zone, a showcase of great new up-and-coming talent. I am. It's on at Trades Hall for the entire run of the festival, so it's 22 shows. So you literally have no excuse.

If you're not there, you better... You better be... dead. That's the excuse we're taken. If you've been shot 50 times, I'll accept it. I'll allow it. Matt, uh, your show, split show with the wonderful, the only Andy Matthews. Tell us about that. Yep. It's called logistical nightmare and it's... It's turning out to be one, isn't it? It is, yeah, because he's moved to Sydney since we saw the show, we started talking about doing the show. But he's coming back down for it. Uh, that's the plan at the moment. Thank goodness. And it should be really good. It's on a tuxedo cat in the second half of the festival in

If you're not in Melbourne, of course. If you're not in Melbourne, just listen to the other episodes of this show. No, fly down. Oh, yeah, of course. Or up or across, depending on where you are. Tickets and links and everything are at comedyfestival.com. com. Check that out.

Thank you so much. We'd love to see people there. You can always contact us with Twitter at DoGo on Pod. Do we have a hashtag for the week? Because people, if you've got any suggestions for topics, keep them coming in. We get them trickling in. every week. Yeah, we totally do.

I reckon my next one, I'm going to do one from the hat. I pulled one out of the hat for next week. And you were saying you're excited. It's an interesting topic. I've already looked into it a bit and it's fascinating. Cool. Well, guys, if you've got those fascinating topics, please. Of course, if you're not on Twitter, we're on Facebook as well.

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