Do Go On - 195 - John McAfee: The Most Dangerous Man In Tech

Episode Date: July 17, 2019

John McAfee has lived a long and controversial life that seems to show no signs of slowing down. He is known as one of the godfathers of cyber security and a bit coin guru, but you may not know that he has also been accused of committing many heinous crimes and lived much of his life on the run.Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] SHOWS: Book tickets to our live 200th show in BRISBANE, as well as our shows in SYDNEY and PERTH: https://dogoonpod.com/events/See Matt and Jess in their stand up show 'Razzle Dazzle', also in BRISBANE: https://www.stickytickets.com.au/88599/matt_stewart__jess_perkins_in_razzle_dazzle.aspx NEW MERCH SHOP: https://dogoon.bigcartel.com/Matt's Merch: https://mattstewartcomedy.com/shopCheck out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasSources/Further Reading:https://www.businessinsider.com/the-insane-life-of-john-mcafee-2015-7https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/john-mcafee-6497.phphttps://abcnews.go.com/US/rise-fall-rise-john-mcafee-tech-pioneer-person/story?id=47346015https://www.wired.com/2012/12/ff-john-mcafees-last-stand/https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/has-notoriously-paranoid-software-inventor-and-former-fugitive-john-mcafee-finally-lost-his-mind/news-story/7f352d6fccd0023bfbabce0b3ae0467fhttps://www.vice.com/en_us/article/yppqgg/silicon-valley-s-greatest-bad-guy-is-trapped-in-paradisehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McAfee

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We're sitting under a lamp in Matt Stewart's lounge room. I feel like we're about to play a high-stakes card game. Yeah. You're getting that virus? That's somewhere in that C-3 green visor. Yeah, I love those. Yeah, and I'm a dog in a painting. I'm smoking a cigar. Yeah. I'm a bulldog. What are you? I'm rolling dice. You're a petal, you are. Yeah.

Steven. I'm a sausage dog, please. Well, I'm just we're sitting in the shadow of my stop plate trophy from last week. All right, man, tell us what that's for. Obviously, you want to ring that up? Oh, now that you've mentioned it, what's this trophy all about? This is a little golf tournament. No big deal. 15 years in the making. I finally reached the summit. Have you never won before? For the second time. How long between drinks? Four or five years. Yeah, good. That's a good feeling. So you go out. How many people were playing? Look, I mean, numbers are mad. I was just made this time Was it three? It was seven. It was a small group. This time last year we had 20. Oh wow So my odds did increase with those 13 people playing so where'd you come last year?

Last year I was still in the top handful, but I hadn't seen one of the years. I think I had my Would it be like in the top half dozen schools of all time? I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy.

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I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I like to sleep around. Okay. Yogi bear. Yogi bear. He loves to sleep around. He's a famous philanderer. Well, he could not put it away. Oh, picnic baskets under six. Do you, is there a way that we could launch some sort of do-go-on charity podcast-based golf tournament?

I'd love that. We invite other podcastes from Alvin. We can paint somehow we've filmed what or something and it's all for charity just. What do you think? Oh, I know I'm up for that but I don't want to play the golf but can I just drive a golf bug around? Yeah, you could be the official driver for the Melbourne International podcast celebrity golf charity tournament. Yeah, my dad yeah, my dad drove a golf cart Basically like over a ledge that fell into a Sand what's the sand trash bunker a bunker sandwich he had to jump out of the

Cart mid air open face club sandwich out of the cart midair. As open face clubs and wedge. And he landed weirdly on his hip. A few months later, he got a hip replacement. Couldn't quite pinpoint where that pain had started. I was like, Dad, do you reckon it's when you jumped out of a golf cart midair and he went, hi, that's probably it. And that's my family.

Your dad is a maniac. It sounds like an insurance job. He probably would have died if he hadn't jumped out that would be fair so it was probably a good call. Speaking of traveling to sandy places. Yes, what a segue. We're hitting up Brisbane. Is that what you're going with this? Brisbane doesn't, oh they've got a man-made beach but it's not even on the coast. Brisbane also got Perth and Sydney to beach. It's fun to announce two more shows. We are coming to Brisbane in less than a month now.

First of all, this has been on sale for a couple of weeks now. We're hitting up the zoo, named the venue in Fortitude Valley, on August the 11th. If you want to come down for a podcast, and then a quiz show straight afterwards, so two shows in one, and then we're doing the same things.

First of all, in Sydney, coming up there for the first time in over a year, on Saturday, September the 21 21st at the giant dwarf theater Had a fantastic time there last year so fun we're back this time to take over because last night We did last year we did the second half of the night. There was another show in the first half And we came in but we're taking over the whole night We're doing the podcast first of all and then this is news to Matt Yeah, and then a bit of a quiz game show thing afterwards or something we don't even know

Let's see our it goes in Brisbane first. Yeah, you could be stand up. It'll be, it could be, you get two shows. Could be me doing puppetry of the, of my loves. Really? I don't have a lot, but I can do a mean, a mattress. I can do a, yeah. Oh, I'm doing it now. What are you doing? I can't see the transformation. I can see it on that. Anyway, I feel like I'm in a lot of, I can do a dumpling.

What are you reckon? That's good. Yeah. Folding out of the Euro. So it is. I mean, as good as this is, Audioli, imagine it, audiovisually. Wow.

So that's Sydney. Yeah. First of all, tickets are on sale right now. They want on sale today. Wow. So that's Sydney. We're not in that show. First of all, tickets are on sale right now. They want on sale today. They day the episode that came out. And then we are coming over, as Matt just said, to Perth for our first ever show over in Western Australia. People have been bugging us for a long time.

So I'm really hoping you do get behind this because it's a long way for us to go. It's a long way. Well, you are performing in the top. I mean, we have been in Thailand and the UK before Perth. And people came. So goodness. Yeah. Perth, the comedy lounge, fantastic venue you've got there. Sunday, November the 3rd. We're coming for you, baby. No, afternoon extravaganza. Come on down. Yes, I cannot wait. So excited for all that. Right. So tickles for oneself. All the shows, Brisbane, Sydney and Perth at dogoonpod dot com. I just love to travel. Yeah, I love to travel with friends. Well, I love to live. I love to laugh. I love to love and I love you Perth and Brisbane and Sydney. I was assuming you two were friends of mine. I can't do that way. Oh, do you?

Jess, you've all said. Why? Jess, my good friend, you've also been working on a merchandise shop for us. I have, yes. You're putting that red pill experience to the test. I never knew that that would come in handy and oh boy has it. That's great. So for a little while we've had a red bubble, but...

Yeah, where things are printed on demand, but it's not quite as, we can't control the quality. Yeah. So it comes up with like a bunch of different options for you, but they don't always come out super well. So what I've done is, because we had so much merch, especially like all t-shirts basically from live shows and stuff like that, I've put it online. You can buy them now T-shirts that were previously exclusively available

at live shows are available on the internet. Amazing. So cool. And so there'll be a link to that in the show description. Yeah, all of it. Oh, I'm checking our socials and stuff. We're working on updating that on our website as well.

It's a big cartel. It is a big cartel. And the web portal. Basically, I'll be managing that for the most part so If you want an order if you want to teach you you can absolutely grab one and I'll send it out to you So Jess will hand send that out to you Yeah, I will and they'll say you also throw it to you It's also yeah, the dogon frisbee and you've also

Ordered some little dogon cards. Yeah quite nice. You'll get in the mail with. Yeah, you'll get a little thank you. Well, we're plugging just a couple last quick plugs. Jess we're doing a show in Brisbane. Just the week after the Brisbane Live Do-Go-On called Razzle Dazzle. It's a stand-up show. It's basically trying out new material, but it should be loose and fun. It'll be very fun. And bringing a little bit of that old-school Razzle Dazzle. Yes. Right, which one are you? I think I'm D'Azzle. Yeah, I agree. You're definitely Razzle. I'm a Razzle. I wonder how do you check your Razzle. That's right, that's right. And there's also just the last bits and pieces of my merch I had at my live shows early this year, including Primates, Beanie's and some animal pins in my face.

Just to translate that for our Canadian listeners, those are tooks. Oh, tooks. Yeah, so how come I mentioned that? And I think all Beanie's tooks over there. I took two of that. Tooks, which I love. I thought it was tooks. No, I've heard on Nathan for you, he sold, because he's Canadian, he referred to them

as tooks. Tooks, cool. Right. Yeah, I heard Justin Bieber and Avril Lavine talking about it with the singer from Nickelback Yeah, and they were hanging out with Leonard Cohen and Neil Young and Michael Booble and also They were all talking to a man to lean beyond riding a moose. They were all saying Reynolds that was saying Ryan Reynolds wears a toque

So yeah, so that Ryan Reynolds. That was saying Ryan Reynolds, where's the toque? So yeah, so that's- After all that, you fly. I think that probably helps. But you can go to matsjordcomedy.com slash shop. I think I should have checked that before. Anyway, that's so many plugs. We should start the show.

Yeah, let's start this goddamn podcast, which if you haven't heard before, tuning in for the first time, what we do is we usually take it in turns to'd report on a topic often suggested by a listener and whoever's in charge of the report, the other two people, they have no idea what they're about to talk about and this week Matt you're in charge. It's so good to be in charge, grabbing the reins, I'm going to write this moose all the way to the Canadian border of joy. Right, the Canadian border of joy being America. Yeah.

Which is where this, some of this report is But it's fantastic good in America. Yeah, we're we always start with a question. We do my question this week is Is the most I mean, it's pretty funny so far. Who is the most? Jess that's pretty funny. Jessica an early call an early call on this? The cat just leaked my hand. It was particularly needy cat here, right? I got really rough tone. What's cat's name? Penny.

Oh, good name for a cat. Hello, Penny. Oh, you like me. The people who were enjoying the plugs will be enjoying this. So I think just to get on with the show. You know, I'm so sorry. Penny will be appearing live at the zoo in Brisbane with us. Obviously 11.

Question. Question to get on topic, Penny, you can answer this as well. Who is the most controversial person in the world of cyber security? Oh my God. Do you know, do you know any, his name and does have given you an answer? His surname is the name of a name of the still very big cyber security brand. Is it a Mac a V? It is John Mac a V. Definitely thought it was Julian Assange. Or Mac a V or Mac a V. Mac a V. Mac a V. I think I always say Mac a V.

Like the little yellow shield maybe. Yeah. I think that might be not. You probably deleted off your computer? Definitely. Yeah. Graham Norton also has a competing brand. And that. John Ed Blocker.

John Ed Blocker. Here's my favorite. He does great work. 1 million ads blocked. Thanks John Ed. You're doing it. How you doing? Whoa.

So this with Penny's on the table now. You don't have, honestly, Penny, you don't have to do that. I've just been very, we're gambling. I've gone all in with Matt's cat for put it on the table. She does what I do, that she just like bashes her head into you for attention. You buck us. Yeah, I do.

You're a bucker. All right, so John Nakamey, so just you know anything about, because I've only had one story about him and it did make me laugh and I hope you'll be covering it. Okay, because there's stories that will make you maybe laugh, but also stories that will make you feel sad about the world. He's done some bad things, actually. Anyway, well, the listening art can I just also stipulate it's also terrible. Okay. Okay, you heard a terrible but funny story. I mean funny because it wasn't me. Yeah, so I guess that's a good warning for everyone who doesn't like light being made of

terrible things. And let's not forget them. Matt did do the story about a man who was banged to death by a horse a few weeks ago. He literally has no filter anymore. This was suggested by Michael Apostolides, Apostolides. Oh, I reckon that second one's better. And Finlay Williams and Fabian, no surname. Here we go. No surname is an interesting one. Now, if your name is Fabian, you can go solo monica. Yeah.

Yeah, good call. How many Fabians do you know? Never met one? Don't want to John David McAfee. We're gonna say McAfee. Oh, you've sent it down more recently than I have so you should go with what? John David McAfee John David McAfee was born on the 18th of September 1945 on a US Army base in Gloucestershire in the UK to an English mother I'm gonna have to stop you there because you'll get tweets across to sheer. Oh, fuck you will get tweets on a US Army base in Gloucestershire in the UK to an English mother.

I'm going to have to stop you there because you'll get tweets across the Shea. Oh fuck, you will get tweets. I'm so sorry to remember. But where's that macrophy, however, sorry about both. Gloucestershire in the UK to an English mother and American father who was stationed there. When he was young, the family moved to Virginia in the United States. I'm a Virginia Ia. Sorry, thank you. And his father was reported the an alcoholic, died when McAfee was still very young, about 15.

He was a bright student and studied mathematics at Roanoke College, receiving his bachelor's degree in 1967, the summer of love almost. Oh, boom. What was the summer of love, 69? Of course. Oh my goodness. I mean, do you have to ask? Oh my, Lord, I didn't even mean that.

You have to ask. That was the dinner of love for two. Oh, cool. During his first couple of decades out of college, McAfee worked at NASA, NASA, as a program director, a program director, program for a couple of years as well as working at Univac and Xerox. What years was it, this is just after that?

Yeah, so I guess it's... Did he work on the space mission on the moon? I think he was working at a NASA based in New York. So I think it wasn't necessarily... They do other stuff than launch rockets at the moon, right? What else did they do? What rockets are miles? A dry wide range of rockets.

During the 80s, McAfee became aware of a computer virus, commonly known as brain. According to Centrian.com.au, the first computer virus for MS-DOS was brain and was released in 1986. It would overwrite the boot sector on a floppy disk and prevent the computer from booting. It was written by two brothers from Pakistan and was originally designed as a copy protection. Whatever all that means. Right, so it was actually meant for good. That sort of sounds like copy protection.

Did you write whatever all that means? Oh, Dave check his computer. I don't. We got a note at some point from someone saying, can you stop saying what you have and have written? No one cares. I don't think we've ever had that. That's you. I can't.

I was trying to stop us from making it. I was trying to stop us from making it. I was trying to stop us from making it. I was trying to stop us from making it. I was trying to stop us from making it. I was trying to stop us from making it. I was trying to stop us from making it. I was trying to stop us from making it.

I was trying to stop us from making it. I was trying to stop us from making it. I was trying to stop us from making it. I was trying to stop us from making it. I wrote it in a pad. I wrote it in a pad. I'll show it to you later. MacaVee was one of the first to become aware of it and how it worked,

which also meant he was able to design software that was able to beat it. He has said that he wrote the antivirus program in a day and a half, and that four million people were using it within a month. And this is how his company, McAfee Associates, the antivirus software company, was born. Right. Put us the artifact in there and post so it could. The company boomed and in 1992 was incorporated. A couple of years later, Maccabee resigned and he sold his stake reportedly making $100 million.

Whoa. Though Maccabee has since told ABC News in America that his fortune was worth much more. Oh, so I just said correction there. I'm not worth a hundred million. I'm worth two! He's seen, yeah, and it's hard to know. He's always like, yeah, I was playing a correction there. I'm not with a hundred. I'm with two He's he's seen yeah, and it's hard to know he's always like Yeah, I was playing you back then it was that he does that a lot. Yeah, it was it'll

Re-write history a bit or and say yeah, no, that was that was because I wanted you to think I didn't have that much money back then But actually it's not like a trustworthy man From there he moved into his next venture, which was a chat program called Tribal Voice, ever heard of it. No. Neither. But he sold it for $17 million soon after.

Wow. I'm guessing, I'm actually based on his own name, but I think it might have been, this is the dot com boom type thing, right? Yeah, and also messaging services, I guess it was... I saw somewhere that he was an early influencer in that, so maybe that's what that was.

When asked by the ABC journalist, what he did with all the money he replied, I wasted it, like everybody who has money. More specifically, he had nine homes built and bought lots of weird and wonderful stuff, including aeroplanes, expensive artwork, and a dinosaur skull. What is with rich people in dinosaur skulls? Maybe that story of Nicholas Cage and Leonardo DiCaprio, both having a bidding war over dinosaur skull, and then it turned out that it had been stolen or something, so it had to give it back anyway. Oh yeah, that's right. It's been like 300 grand or something on it. Is that in that Mace episode about Superman maybe?

Yeah, maybe. That sounds about right. Because he was like, what, yeah, he bought the original Superman comic. Yeah, and then it was stolen because he left the key in the lock. Great of so, give back a listen. He also opened a retreat in Colorado where he rebranded

himself as a yoga guru. He left all the tech stuff behind. He sold his companies. Now he's a yoga guru. The next big thing, yoga. Yeah, he wrote heaps of books like half a dozen or something books about yoga and how it's a great way of life and stuff like that. Yep. And he spent his time leading yoga sessions and speaking about the meaning of life. Okay, this feels like a turn for the positive. Yeah, according to a quote on vis.com, a former student spoke of the retreat saying,

everything was free. You would think that this guy was amazingly generous and kind, but he was getting something out of it. He was interested in being the center of attention. He was surrounded by people around him who didn't have any money and were depending on him, and he could control them. So they spin it, it's almost like a negative. I mean, it was fine until the control part.

Yeah, it's fine for a lonely person to have friends come around. Oh, control. Gotcha. Okay. A cult. Yep, that's weird. But he grew bored of that in light and lifestyle pretty quickly. Oh, control. I gotcha. Okay. A cult. Yep, that's weird. But he grew bored of that in light and lifestyle pretty quickly. And he found a new obsession, which was arrow trekking.

And according to the Vyse article, arrow trekking is the practice of flying light weight aircraft called trix, just a few feet off the ground. I can't believe it didn't take off more than that, a few feet, but yeah, I'd never heard of it. Sounds pretty tame, right? And he encourages followers to take it up and he opened a center for the sport in New Mexico. So he's trying to get the yoga people to jump ship

to another thing. Yeah, good, another thing. This would go like, you're like yoga. Well, it would have about like a mild extreme sport? Where you could jump out of this at any time, I'll add jumpharkens in a golf club. He'd love this. Honestly, you can jump out of anything at any time,

if you want. I can jump out of this seat right now. Oh, I even. Actually, I'm kind of pin-dune against this, well, I probably couldn't. But you could do almost anything you want. You could do almost anything I want. Not this.

Not this, but almost anything else. It's so seriously just a few feet off the ground. That's how that voice article just fell. It's like a hoverboard. So it doesn't sound dangerous, right? But apparently it is more dangerous than it sounds because it led to the death of his 22 year old nephew and a 61 year old passenger.

What? Yeah, I can't. I guess it's moving really fast or? Well, it must be if it's flying right bit. Yeah, I'd yeah I mean you can fly slowly Yeah, but not like ten game out true. That is still pretty fast to fall on the ground, especially if it's rocky terrain or something These deaths led to a lawsuit being filed against him and as a result he liquidated his many assets and fled to Belize. Now have we got to the

thing that you found funny yet? No. I'm interested as to what it is and also it's scared as to what you find funny. Remember it's day which I'm not of the death so far. I've been abusing to you. Oh, sorry, sorry, death. Yes. Very good. Ha ha. Well played. So he fled to Belize.

You wouldn't have been a geography expert. You would know exactly where that is. And would have known, unlike me before this week, that it is a country. He in Central America, yes. That's right. He noted at the time, or not long after, a noted at the time or not long after a Judgment in the States is not valid down in Belize. So people are suing him

Over those deaths. He's basically fleeing that judgment He told the media at the time though That he his fortune was hit by the global financial crisis or that his fortune was hit by the global financial crisis. Or, was that, does that time out? Right, no, it might not be quite right. But he was hit by a big downturn in the market. And that's why I have to sell his many properties and belongings. He invited the media to film the auction.

So there's footage of, he seems to have a camera animal at time. There's so much footage of him through all this time you can see him through the, like, the computer nerd era. This auction he's there at the computer nerd era. That's footage of him. You know what they like. At the yoga. Yeah, there are.

That's footage of him leading yoga things on his. He obviously was very open having cameras around all the time. And so the media came and saw him auction off all his stuff. And he told the media then that he'd lost over 90% of his fortune He has since admitted that he liquidated his assets because people would stop showing him if they thought he was broke So I've had 200 lawsuits in my life because my name is John McAfee No, I didn't lose everything. I wanted to stop people from trying to sue me No, I didn't lose everything. I wanted to stop people from trying to sue me. People don't sue them if he's got no money. What is theory?

We're going to still poor person, yeah. But it's also like I don't, he's the kind of untrustworthy narrator that you go, are you just saying that? Which bit is a lot? Yeah. It's just hard to tell with him. Yeah. What where reality starts and stops. hard to tell with him what where reality starts and stops. Anyway, he started a new life and believes. So is this like, this is basically his fourth reinvent? Yeah, he's just always

restless and reinvent. I mean, he's by this stage, he's been in his 50s, so it's not like his kid still, but he seems to change up pretty regularly and it's like not super connected things either. Hmm, very different. In Belize, again, a wild sort of left-hand turn, he started a company experimenting with making antibiotics from plants in the jungle. His company called Quorum X focused on a field of microbiology called anti-quorum sensing. And according to the VICE article, it is whereby you fight bacteria, not by killing it

outright, but by interrupting its chemical pathways. So obviously this comes on from arrow trekking. Yeah, yeah. Obviously. I first of all had the of whilst I was a yoga teacher that I developed it whilst flying two feet off the ground at 100 miles per hour. And now I've affected it in the jungle.

The article. This is Taylor's oldest time, so. Yeah, obviously. I can't believe I had to explain that. The article goes on to say that the operation was led by Dr. Allison Adonisio, a Harvard researcher who, according to MacAfee, was already aware of one such plant. By early 2010, MacAfee claimed they'd found six locally, which according to the Vice

article, was a blatant lie. At first, so Adonizio was interviewed in this documentary I watched last night, like a feature that length documentary called Gringo about John McAfee, and she features in it pretty heavily, and she talks about her time there, which was pretty awful. She says at first she thought it was her dream job. You know, Rich Bacca was gonna fund the research that she wanted to do. But pretty quickly things got weird. Taylor's oldest time. Yeah.

Don't trust rich people who want to give you money to do the thing you really wanna do. Like that comes with a big catch, surely. But when they arrived, I'm here because I've escaped killing two people in a plane you've never heard of. Yeah, also I used to teach yoga. So if you want to chill later, let me know. Okay. But more importantly, I want to give you unlimited cash to do that thing you do.

Okay. Yeah, that's the bitch you focused on. Yeah. I want to give you unlimited cash to do that thing you do, okay? Yeah, that's the bitch you focused on. Yeah. She said that like he was he grew impatient with her like not getting the results He thought would happen a lot quicker and then he'd get it to do things like put colored dies in beakers for photos Say, look, I'm looking at this blue last beaker of liquid. We're making progress. And that's why he's saying we've found six plants and things are moving. But it was him just going, let's fake it a bit. And she said, this is not cool. And he's like, no, no, this is just business. It's just business. You got to keep the buzz going. Sort of thing. That's how she tells them.

But that was sort of the lighter stuff. It got more fucked. No, not green in the beaker. No. Matt, please, not red in the beaker. There was red. Oh my God, he's a monster. He insisted that she live with him.

He said he, there was no combination of her, yet to live it. And this is a quote from her, she said, he tried to convince me that love doesn't exist. So I might as well just sleep. I might as well just give in and sleep with all these crazy circus folk. So her being interviewed by Gizmo,

I was naive about who and what Mr. McAfee really is. I heard the circus fact that he's referring to it. Oh, I just see all the, he's sort of hangers on and stuff. Oh, I can't write. I think I mentioned it coming up, but he's got a harm of young girlfriends. And yeah, and also he hides a bunch of sort of ex-cons as well. He's a lonely man, he just looks company. But yeah, she's also since spoken at ABC News and filmmaker Nanette Burstein on her documentary

about McAfee, the one called Gringo, the dangerous laugh of John McAvie. And on both Adonizio alleges that McAvie drugged and raped her when she tried to quit the project. Soon after she fled home to Pennsylvania and got in contact with FBI about her allegations, though the FBI told her it was not within that jurisdiction, which I get it. I don't understand the FBI, I'm there obviously mainly America based.

But yeah, she tells the story and fair bit of detail. She's sipping on the orange. She's just like, I can't believe how I feel like such an idiot. It tasted weird. I made a joke about it. Like, oh, it's weird. You can't get, because the town

that we're living in was called Orange Walk. And apparently she said Where'd you can't get normal tasting oranges in orange She's room and then she just so trusting yeah, yeah, and she she plays like that But obviously this is mess there up. Yeah, big time. I mean obviously, but you can see it He Refutes all these claims. Oh, that's interesting. And says that she's loopy basically.

Right. Well, I guess that's that then, isn't it? He seems to get away with everything, you know, allegedly get away with everything, because he's never really been charged with any of these serious things that he's been accused of. The journalists ever get to ask him about any of the allegations he'll brush it off by the same accusers of being paid off or they're crazy or they're some sort of conspiracy or whatever. Like the whole reason he was in Belize in the first place seems to be that

he was fleeing legal trouble in the US about the arrow trekking death. So Belize, it sounds like it's like a kind of lawless place, but it's not there's there's cops around and they ended up raiding his lab in 2012. I'm just can't believe our recent all of this is. The Belize. Belize. They're like, I forget what they're called, but they're like the gang. There's a police Section called the gang enforcement section or something, right? And they rated his lab in 2012 believing it was being used to manufacture Methamphetamine Fist reported that the cops found 20 grand in cash

Alabs stock with chemistry equipment a Small armories worth of firearms, including a seven pump action shotguns, one single action shotgun, two nine millimeter pistols, 270 shotgun cartridges, 39 millimeter pistol rounds and 2038 rounds. Fectingly for the police, the article says, all of this was actually legal.

The guns were licensed and the lab appeared not to be manufacturing jugs, but was... Jugs. Jugs, or drugs? It wasn't a jug factory. No. God, bad news. They've been making vases. Totally legal vases.

Yeah. No jugs. I'm afraid you've only got a license for jugs. That was made playing a jug, by the way. Big clay jugs, Simpson's reference there. Yeah, finally. Never ever stop in the middle of a hotel. Just say somebody posted recently the Patreon group of like you two making a Simpson's reference and me just looking perplexed and I was like,

I get them. I just don't enjoy them. I just don't feel the need to put them into every conversation. Weirdo. Yeah, I'm wrong with you. Yeah, I don't feel the need to put them into every conversation. Weirdo. You're wrong with it. Yeah, you're from our generation. No, I'm an old soul. You prefer a mash. I love mash. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do Yeah, I would feel good comedy. So the lab appeared not to be manufacturing drugs or drugs, but antibacterial compound. So exactly what he said. But also it got it looks sus to have that much cash and guns. Why does he have any of that?

I imagine it is a pretty, it is one of the most dangerous countries in the region. Yeah. I think it's like murder capital for a while there. And he's super paranoid. So did they get knocked off the top? Yeah, I think they're mad at us. Top spot. So they're mad. By Gary Indiana.

So I'm just joking, obviously Gary's a beautiful place. I cannot wait to visit. And Oasis. Oh, yeah. So I imagine that if you've got like a big crew, especially full of ex-cons, it's kind of natural to have this kind of that part of the world, you know. So I was kind of mentioning this before, but Maccabee had a hire of young girlfriends and believes and he seemed to have young girlfriends the whole way through.

And he seemed to have young girlfriends the whole way through. It came up a lot reading about him. Most articles mentioned, depending on when the article was from different girlfriends, the ability of half a dollar and also in Belize. At the same time? Yes. In the documentary, I watched a lot of them were interviewed in it. And they seemed, I think it was sort of at first, it was the money, but they all seemed to end up falling from a bit. And then there's this one cut where

they, they all sort of basically say, I was this favourite, he spent the most time with me. And just one after the other, they all said something similar about that. So they were sort of like, obviously some sort of competition for his affection or... Stomp syndrome. Um, he, apparently often involved with women as young as teenagers and in one interview I saw with him, he stresses that they're all over the age of consent though, which is reassuring when a 70 year old man has to say,

well, boy, you got to understand they're old, like, old enough legally at least. Yeah, certainly not emotionally mature enough, but legally I'm allowed. Yeah. That's so gross. Ethically, it's a huge, big misuser there trust, but legally, I love love illegal loophole.

Yeah. And if you like, in the frame of mind, where you're like sand, in a, to a news, you're being viewed on the news like, I don't worry. If you have to say age of consent, they're too young. That's just a general rule for you out there. That's good to get those rules out there. Yeah.

Maccabee threw his money around a lot in Belize. He donated millions to the police department in particular, which obviously... Oh, it's a nice donation. Yeah. Just likes to support the police. So gave the chief of police a brown paper bag donation, said buy yourself something nice. Yeah.

And said, how old's your daughter? In the documentaries, it's obviously not painting the nicest picture of him, but they, they, um, I don't think the maker of that docker is a big fan of his somehow, but I mean, he's giving also, giving all this content for her, but they showed all that, like, heaps and heaps of tasers, bullets, guns, he donated all the stuff to them. Wow. Dave, what language would they speak in Belize? Spanish.

Thank you, Dave. See. I see, see. Uh, he also showed increasing signs of paranoia whilst there and became very security conscious. Or local. Hiring a small army of local ex-cons to work as his personal security team as well as a pack of guard dogs for his property,

and all sorts of weaponry as we talked about before. He dressed as security team in army fatigues, and had them patrol the main street apparently. When he said dress them, it's not like he's personally dressing them. They're like, it's right there. I'm over here. Time to put on your little mittens. Kaki mittens. Okay. Karky mittens. And it's got big, like big, you sort of American style big, you trucks.

And they drive through the main strip with all the, basically looks like a mini militia sitting in the back of his you arm to the teeth. And it, in the doc, I said that he enforced a, what do you call it when people aren't allowed out after a centimeter of time? Kewfee. Kewfee. Kewfee. And forced a Kewfee for the locals and stuff, which I'll say is a bit, yeah, no, I don't understand either. Didn't seem to make a lot of sense. Why does he get to do that? I don't know. I want to do that. I'm going to enforce a Kewfee in my apartment building. You should do it. Oh, you have to just get a local militia.

To be fair, they're all old. Yeah, but it's more of a power move. They are enforcing their own. You make them not be able to go to bed. Yeah. You blast your pop to AM. Yeah. Have we, has the funny thing started to happen?

So curious, it's what it is. Yeah, what do you find funny, Dave? No, don't put that pressure on me. I've heard it like an anecdotal story. I haven't watched any of these horrifying documentaries. I didn't realize what a bad person he was. So don't put this on me. According to the Gringo documentary,

when a local man named David Middleton was suspected of robbing McAfee's home, McVeah allegedly, I mean, everything I'm saying is allegedly. Can I do a blanket allegedly? Of course. He's never been. Off the record. Yeah, I don't think the laws never caught up with him.

This is very much on my on record. Allegedly. Allegedly. So, yeah, local man named David Middleton was suspected of robbing Macafe's home. Macafe allegedly organized for Middleton to be abducted by some hired thugs and before taking him and stabbing and tasering him within an inch of his life. So, as a message sort of thing. So what was the problem? What was he saying he'd done? He'd broken into his house. Right. Wow, that's messed up. Yeah, on the docker, one of his workers says,

yeah, he paid me to organize. I went into town and I picked up this group of huge guys and got them to send a message basically. All right, you got me. That's the funny bit. Classy. They then pushed him out of the car in the middle of town right in front of a bunch of locals.

They rushed to his assistance, but even silly slipped into or coma and made a diode in the hospital. Oh my god. Oh just a disclet of life. That was not the funny bit. So yeah. So it's basically. So that's a murder charge essentially. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And that is not the only death that McAfee has been linked to from his time in Belize. Oh, my God. An American ex-pat named Gregory Falle had moved to Belize for the quiet life. Unfortunately for him, he moved a couple doors down from McAfee, who lived afar from quiet life.

His pack of dogs in particular caused fall a lot of grief with their incessant barking. And apparently fall complained it and said that he was going to do something about the dogs if, if, if McVeigh didn't. Not too long after the nine dogs were found dead, poisoned by meat that had been thrown over the fence. So I think it, it seems like that was fall who did that. Within a day of the dog massacre, fall was found dead and is a part. The official police report says that the cops found fall's body lying face up in a pool of blood

with an apparent gunshot wound on the upper rear part of his head. Oh my god. Apparently the chances of convicting murder as in Belize is very low. Cess I Belize is fairly bare bones. Yeah! And unless there is an eyewitness or a confession, the crimes are likely to go unpunished. Apparently the murder conviction rates are around 3%. What? Yes. Far out, but also. Yeah, pack of dogs are very annoying.

It doesn't mean you kill them. Yeah, that's... I'm not saying you deserve to be murdered. Sorry. I'm just thinking about that. I'm either the dogs. No, definitely not. Yeah, it's all there.

Nothing in that story is nice, is it? None of these people who deserve to die. Let me just put that out there. Like, can I do that? Yeah. So, Belize City in 2011 was the fourth highest murder rate of any city in the world. Right. Belize is the third highest national murder rate in the world.

Yep, right. So it's a high murder rate and a low conviction. A low conviction. But the three percent of a lot of people is still few people. So all that being said, he was still the police's main suspect, and they wanted to arrest him basically. But he still denies any involvement, saying that it's all stitched up by the Belize government. And because of this, he decided to flee the country before they could get him.

Oh, yeah, okay. Gotcha. Check that. Classic innocent man. He loves to flee. That's not one of fun. I wouldn't know where to flee. Where would you flee?

Probably across the Guatemalan border. Okay. Is that what he does? Yeah. Okay. I was asking you, Matt Stewart, right, fling from Melon. From me? Oh, jeez. That doesn't everyone go to Darwin? Somewhere people are still staying within the country. Oh, okay, where's the feds can still get you? Oh, yeah. But then like New Zealand, that's convenient. Oh, yeah,

I like to fly them down. No you got to go on on next to this in country people. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, please. Your Russia is your Spain's. Oh Spain. I got robbed in Spain. What do you think? All the crimes go there. Oh okay. It's beautiful country every many times and I love it. Anyway Matt do you want? Yeah but I've some of tried to rob me in Spain as well. I love it. Anyway, Matt, do your one. Yeah, but I've, some of them tried to rub me in Spain. It's all they had in their hand in my pocket. Oh, we like, oh, this guy's getting pretty friendly. Back pocket?

Kind of a cute little bum grab. No, front pocket. Oh, that's weird. Wow. And you thought it was like a custom went into his pocket? He was like, yeah, and we walked down the street and in pocket. Does it mean? It's nice. It's nice. I miss him every day. the street and in pocket. It was nice.

I miss him every day. So he was the main suspect. He wanted to flee. And this is what he said. This is his reasoning. He said, under no circumstances, am I going to under no circumstances, am I going to willingly talk to the police in this country? You can sound paranoid about it, but they will kill me. There is no question. They've been trying

to get me for months. They want to silence me. I'm not well liked by the Prime Minister. And I think this is true because I was footage and it was played in the documentary and other. I've seen it a few times of the Prime Minister Dean Barrow calling McAfee bonkers. He goes, he is delusional, he's like, I'd almost say he's bonkers. It's funny language from a Prime Minister, but he just, he almost felt like, sounded like he was fit, he was just like, he sounds like he'd be hard work, you know? Yeah, he's just because he's so paranoid that the theories are always pretty big. But you know, if he's telling the truth about everything, some wild things going on. So now on the run, McVee was able to escape over the border to Guatemala. And after being on the run for about a month, he agreed to meet for an interview with a

vice journalist. When that journalist met him, they interviewed, they took a photo together, the journalist uploaded that photo and inadvertently gave away their location as he didn't delete the geolocation metadata and that led to McAfee being arrested by Guatemala and officials soon after. We're entering the country illegally. Oh dear. That's all good. One of his girlfriends hooked him up with their uncle who was a top lawyer and he was going to help fight extradition to Belize.

His lawyer told him that he wouldn't be able to file the appeal until 3pm that afternoon, though, telling him that in the hours until then he was vulnerable to being booted back to Belize. So soon after, McAfee collapsed on the floor of an apparent heart attack and he was rushed to hospital. Oh my god, did he fake a heart attack? But as the clock ticked over 3 p.m. He made a miraculous recovery Having avoided deportation Arslaider by ABC news if he'd faked it. He replied sure I faked it. What would you have done? Okay, well at least he's honest about it. Yeah, because it feels like he's just so full of shit Yeah, that he might know I did I just had a harder how to do it. I don't have a tactical 3 p.m It was very I was of my, it flashed before my eyes.

But he loves, he loves telling stories of smart things he did. I tricked him, I, I'm outsmarted. Yeah, right. He likes it when he wins. Yeah, not saying I got lucky from getting unwell. No, I did that on purpose. I told my heart to attack. Yeah, it wasn't a fact.

Heart attack, I mean the heart attack was real, but I was in control. Yeah, he wasn't deported to Belize because of this, but he was instead deported to Miami. And he sort of made it sound like he that was what he wanted. He was going, oh, they're forced, man, and this plane of Miami. He's like, yeah, I want to go to Miami. He heard that. We'll Smith song. And he's just wanted to get there.

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I think we recognize in each other the same feelings of loneliness and emptiness. When he was deported from Guatemala, the government of Belize had illegally seized all of his property in banking accounts, so we literally left with the clothes on his back. One thing led to another, and I soon found myself on a road trip across the country with him. It was one of the most beautiful times of my life. John displayed a knowledge and a worldly kind of experience that captivated me. I've been with him ever since. Oh, generous.

How do they meet? At a restaurant? I don't know. He just... Was he not under a rest? I know, he got deported and then straight to a restaurant. And then road trip. Yeah.

That's so romantic. That is hard. The, um, that interview also asked her if the allegations against McAfee made her weary of marrying him and she answered, no, not at all. The allegations against my husband are nothing more than so-called journalists and biographers sensationalizing my husband's story in order to make a name for themselves. And she's saying this to a journalist. Yeah.

Good. But also, she met him after all this stuff, so she's just taken his word for it as journalist. Yeah. Good. But also she, she met him after all this stuff. So she's just taken his word for it. Yeah. Less than 10% of what is written about my husband is true. And most of it is written without him even giving an interview. The media has told so many lies about my husband. It's disgusting. Anyone that truly knows John knows that he has the biggest heart and he has a genuine love for people. And the biggest wallet. He's so wealthy. But is he still wealthy or is he lost at all? Ah, now. He's still doing okay. At this point though

according to who? He had nothing left. But I think he had something. She goes on to say what actually started his war with Belize is that he was giving money to the locals instead of donating in inverted commas to the government. He opened several different businesses in Belize and hired only the locals to run them. He gave so many Belizeans an opportunity to earn a steady income. He never took a dime from any of the businesses, and all the profits went directly to the locals. Millions of dollars. The government officials didn't like that,

so he made the decision to take his story to the international press to speak about the corruption in the government, and he was labeled a drug-addled child-molesting crazy man. So that's her story, and I don't know what guess Bikes Engine, that was the story he told her. Yeah. The government were after me. I've been wanting to see some of the paperwork for those businesses. Apparently, I mean, I think he did do a lot of that stuff, but I don't think the

government necessarily will give us the money. Yeah. Or we're going to make up weird and like real specific and extensive stories about you with a lot of people who will interview about it. Yes. In the Gringo documentary, one of McAfee's ex-employees, a cash in Chevaria, says that McAfee paid to have fall killed. So is that the neighbor who? The dog.

The dog, the poisoner. McAfee has since denied this, saying that the filmmaker, Burstein, who made the Gringo, Ducco, paid them to make the accusations on camera, even saying that he told them they should take the money and say whatever she asked them to. She's like, apparently he goes,

cash in his ex employee, called him and said, she's off from me 12 grand to say something and he goes, yeah, I told him, take it 12 grand, that's great. So whatever she wants. That's a good deal. That's a good deal. That's how he tells it afterwards. Business baby. And then Maccathy, after that, release videos of Chavierria, it's not right, and others saying that they did, in fact, lie, Burstein has since said that she's spoken Chavierria and others who told her

that they only made these new videos as they were paid by Maca-V. Yeah. But Maca-V has denied this. Of course. So just like they keep going backwards and forwards Say now they paid them to say this there's videos of them contradicting themselves Both of them say the other side. Yeah, it's pretty convoluted and confusing

Maccathy has remained in the media spotlight since he since his return to America in August 2015 he was pulled over in Tennessee, near where he was now living with his wife, Janice. The cop believed he was drunk, but Maccabee says he was just high on Xanix. It's fine officer, I'm just pinning. There's a bit, you know, a lot of American cops have the videos.

Yeah. This video is public, you can watch it. And in the video of the arrests, Macavie's there, he comes out of his car and a hoodie and he goes, I'm John McAfee, you've probably read about me living here. And the cop goes, yeah, I don't know who you are. Oh, he did a, don't you know who I am in there?

But like, he didn't even let anybody speak first, he just started with me Mrs. who I am. And then Maca, he's like, really? The surprise that he hadn't heard of him. And he's standing there with his hand behind his back, cuffed, and he starts going, I'm the guy who's accused of murder and believes then I ran the quantum mile in the cup, goes, okay.

It is pretty, he's like fully nonchalant and he's telling him all this, he's like the FBI, I'm probably gonna be interested in me, you probably should call him. I was like, all right mate, he's like, I have really FBI, and then there's footage in the car and the guy's like, I'll see you still working in antivirus stuff, this is happening.

It's making real chill out convo. I think the guy who just said, yeah, I'm wanted by several governments. I'm accused of former, as Central America. Oh, yes, he's still working in any way. I think so. But he didn't, the younger stuff anymore. Yeah, I don't. My wife and I have just got into yoga and I tell you what, I was skeptical. Yeah, but I've been feeling just, I got my sense of calm. My flexibility, I cannot touch my toes. Now, look at me now, just let's pull over. I'm going to show you my downward facing dog.

Yeah. And look at that, look at that. That deep in there I'm getting. I can feel it in my hamstrings, but also in my heart. Heartstrings. Namaste. So he ended up, he got done for this, he lost his license for drink driving. He's like, he's an extra, he was an ex.

But he had, there's a lot of footage with him being interviewed by the ABC guy, he's just sitting in the back with the journalist and his wife, Janice, is driving around. So he was, he wasn't put out too much by that. Around that time he ran for president of the United States. You know, I've heard of me, I'm running for president, I've one of the four matters in the police. What? So, you know, the libertarian party, it's like one of the bigger minor parties over there. And there's a bit of a libertarian party, it's like one of the bigger minor parties over there. And there's a bit of a libertarian movement in Australia as well. Yeah, David Lionhill.

There are ones of all about small government and no welfare and that sort of stuff. And he came really close, but ultimately came second in the race. The guy who ended up winning the libertarian vote, I think I already got about 3% of their national vote. Which you don't hear, because it's pretty much their system is it's first pass the post to whatever. Right, it's been a while since I did politics, but it's the basically if you're not unlike here, we've got preference, it's a common or effect.

If you basically throw on your boat away, much like that Kang and that, so the Simpson's went Kang and Kodos for the two. He says the two party, you're gonna have to vote for one of us. But what if I decided vote for a third party? Haha, throw your boat away. Good stuff. There's been Simpson's heavy today. Well like Simpsons heaven. So we ran for president.

He also heads up a MGT capital, which is a company that invests in cybersecurity. So he sort of come full circle back into cybersecurity. He talks about that a lot. He's kind of an in demand speaker now. He'll speak at big conferences and stuff, there's footage of him, you know, with Ty on talking in front of... How old is he now? He's in his... He's been in his 80s, 45, so... Oh, damn. 84 if...

Stop doing public speaking. In 2007. I just don't want to say old people out and about. Right. Just stay in your house. Okay. I got to tell you, he Just stay in your house. Okay. I gotta tell you, he's mid-70s. Okay, mid-70s.

That's what I said. That's what I meant. 45, that's 55 plus 19. Oh, gotta be 90, 90, 100, 150. I think he's 412. I think he's the oldest man to ever learn. Yeah. I read some of someone said he was an octaneer,

Jerry, and whatever, and I took that on. All right, I didn't pull out the calculator. Negative 76. Well, he tell you, so if you use the acabivirus thing, is he still getting the keybacks when that is that completely separate him now? He fully sold his stake out, that's what he got the 100 million for. Oh, all right. But I still use his name.

Yeah, I mean, he still uses his name as well, all right. I mean, it's wild that they would still want to use, isn't it? Yeah. But I guess that's kind of all they've got in a way. Yeah, branding and most people probably don't realize that he's a kids or what. I had no idea. I didn't know McAfee was a person.

No. Didn't know any of this. In 2017, News Limited published an article titled, Has notoriously paranoid software inventor and former fugitive John McAfee finally lost his mind. Finally, it's a long headline. Yeah, they really are, they like to write the entire article in me.

And this is, so this is just from a couple of years ago, I'll read the first part of this article that inspired the headline. As John McAfee's wife, Janice tells it, she was having sex with her husband in the early hours of September 4, and their Tennessee home. When McAfee's notoriously aggressive dogs started barking madly, I'm guessing there's a new dogs. Minutes later, the legendary... No, it's the dead dogs.

Oh my God. He did find those estranged slabs. It's night time here, Jess, I went sleep. Spooky zombie dogs. That's cool. I'd love for them to live on those dogs. Of course, they always do, you know, hearts. So the dogs that are barking, minutes later, the legendary 71 year old anti-virus software inventor and former fugitive was firing bullets into the walls and ceiling of their bedroom. Oh, okay. We we still talking about the sex? If she on top of him and he's just firing the gun,

I'd like to think so. That would be incredible. Uh, Maccabee. Don't stop. Problem solved. Let's get back to it, baby. Maccabee thought he heard movement in the crawl space under our bedroom in the attic. Janice Maccabee would later recall an statement to the FBI.

He then fired his gun into both areas. The commotion work US Army turned security guard Alex Handrick, who lived below the couple in a basement apartment. So I'm picturing this house by itself, they're the only people around. There's someone living in below them He's hearing a lot of stuff happening in that attic What Dave I don't think I write up their John or it also says that Janice is 34 at say to

So we're on okay, right. I did not imagine her as that young throughout this whole piece. But it does look them young, but she's above the legal age of consent. She could have a kid who's above the legal age of consent. She's a grown-up compared to his previous girlfriends. So really, he's matured. So he's firing the guns. The commotion wakes up the US Army man below. Who's a 20-hour old man, Mr. Handrick, grabbed his assault rifle and legged it upstairs to find Maccabee, stark naked, but for an ammunition belt slung around his hips, pumping bullets into the living room ceiling.

Was he wearing that? Or did he put the belt on? Sorry, once I hear the knock at the door wearing that or did he put the belt on? Sorry, one second, he had a knock at the door. Sorry, let me put my belt on. Because he's standing there. Obviously, he's standing there with a mission and also a raging boat. Oh, I was also thinking he's full of act. Yeah.

And was he wearing the belt during sex? Or did he just go, give us a sec? Clip it on and just start firing. I think he's wearing a joke sex and the army man Is that like an employee of his or does he just I think he just oh yeah good question is he secured? I assumed employee right maybe it is you think he's a neighbor It's like then why is he telling journalists about what he found? Oh, yeah, I feel like more of an eyewitness account you see something like like that and you've got to tell us about it. You've got to tell. I saw my boss standing there,

raging erection and he was brewing a bullet belt. Sorry, I've said too much, I think. Bossa Mark, was that okay to say, yeah, I'll go. Yeah, yeah, I was fully erect. Cause I reckon and tell them how big it was. The guy that you've just seen shooting at walls and ceilings, he's the guy you want to annoy, especially if you live below him. True. Okay, so what happened? That's sort of that's it. That's it. He just thought he heard

something. Yeah, I guess he got a plaster in the next day and I imagine that. It was nothing. Yeah, he was just shooting at shadows basically. You got the plaster in the next day still wearing the bullet bullets around his right. Still raging boner. Oh, so once, I mean, once you shoot that many bullets off, it takes well, it takes a while to go away. Speaking from experience. They stop spaking from experience. I mean, there's nothing like it. Yeah.

Far any gun to a crawl space. You're talking, wait, which gun are we talking about? We're talking about your actual gun or your skin? This is flesh gun. I was going to a crawl space you talking wait which gun are we talking about you actual gun or your Skin this is flesh gun. I was gonna say skin rifle Which is worse I like that flesh gun. That's fun skin rifle's good Um anyway, that's basically the end of our report. There's so like This is one of those ones where I just live such a wildlife. I know these things are hectic.

He's done allegedly so many bad things. He does sound allegedly terrible. But I just googling him and searching for stuff, in Google News results are come up. He's in the news every day. Every, I'll be reading about him over the last week or so and every day there be news, new news reports about him. I've just, I just googled him a few days ago and he's, here are the first three headlines that came up. Three different stories about him all on the same day. First one was McAfee office to build Cuba's first cryptocurrency.

Okay, have they asked for it? Yeah. Second one, John McAfee announces the McAfee World Trade Competition for crypto traders. It's too many. That's confusing. That headline sounds like it's been generated by a lot of... ...a lot of generator. Third one was, oh fucking bear you.

McAfee vows to expose corrupt US officials and CIA agents if disappeared. Oh, if he was disappeared. I guess so, I've never heard it, but where do you say that? If disappeared. In brackets also would you like me to make you a cryptocurrency?

Yeah, he's big in a crypto now. Wow. And then he's, and very finally, his Twitter's also maybe worth a look. Oh, I see. He's actually running it himself. I think so, yeah. Brilliant.

And he posts videos and stuff himself. He is currently campaigning for the 2020 presidential election as well. Oh, my God. And there was a, he posted a video on his Twitter earlier this year Potentially from international waters. Oh Dave. I'm so keen because he's on a boat and he and the caption is The McAfee 2020 campaign is as of this day in exile I'm being charged with using cryptocurrencies in criminal acts against the US government. More videos coming shortly. Stay tuned. And have we had any more videos since?

There's a while I haven't I didn't fall off with that. There were plenty of videos of him on a boat. He looks at he just looks. So he's currently being charged with something. Why is he allowed to run for a political campaign? I imagine that he could not do it from Exile. No. But I mean, he also couldn't, you can't do it without backing from one of the major parties.

It'd be like Trump becoming president. It just won't happen. Yeah, it's crazy. It's a bit of a joke. Yeah, everyone's just like, lol what? Mm-hmm. Shout out to all the Trump fans out there. Also, this is the one that one of the guys who suggested this is a topic put in their note.

Fabian? I don't think it was Fabian, but it was one of those great men. And they pointed me in this direction. He had a tweet late last year saying, I'm just gonna read it. I can't explain it, I'll just read it. Wild fucking, no joke. Each year on Feb 1st in the Molokai channel, a few men compete in the world's only wild fucking contest. Hump pack wiles are easy to fuck for a second or less. World record 31 seconds. I've competed once.

Also, almost got my ribs crushed. Stick with ostriches. What? No. I mean, it's obviously a bit. I just, it's like, it's a pretty wild bit. And then he tweeted again saying, and enough of the wild fucking is non-consensual bullshit.

A humpback wild weighs 70,000 pounds. This 50 feet long can dive more than a quarter mile and can crush ships with a single swap of its tail. If a human manages to fuck one, you damn well better believe it's consensual. Ah! Oh my God. So yeah, he's right.

I'm back to the fuckin' house of yours. Yeah, just go, if you can't handle fucking a humpback whale, try an ostrich, you pussy. You could possibly be the only one who could tweet more bizarrely than Donald Trump. Yeah. I mean, that's a whole nother level. That is.

Yeah. That easier to fuck for one second or less. Oh my god. So, where any of these are the things that you found on things? Did you come across a story involving him and a hammock? Oh, yes. Yes. That was his girlfriend's story. You bet cutting a hole in a hammock. Oh, yes. Yes, that was his girlfriend's story,

about cutting a hole in the hammock. I was heard that anecdotally before. What did he do? So he, so he's, you know, the harm of girlfriends and the bitlies. They were asked about, you know, their sexual activities. Apparently, what he got him all to do was cut a hole in a hammock and then he got him a line and shit into his mouth. Oh!

You can see why I remembered that fact about him. One of them, they asked one of them, they're like, did he ever like have, you know, more classic type sex and she's like, oh no, he wasn't into any of that. Oh. Oh. I mean, it probably isn't oversight that I didn't put that into the report.

I mean, the idea of just someone thinking about the logistics of it and they thinking, a hammock, a hammock. Yeah, perfect, because the perfect position to be into a shit is lying down. Yeah, but like, gravity really helps you in that though Doing it all wrong. You got a lie down. The man's a problem solver

Yeah, you get yeah, cuz you never that I mean that's why when people say they shut the bed Yeah, people just don't say it. It doesn't happen. No, you might wet the bed. Sure But she didn't the bed you're lying down. What do you had to do that? Squat on your bed. Why are you gonna hammock on top of your bed? For the whole cut in it. That is beautiful So that was what I Own you know, that's fine no judgment, but not for me To each their own, you know, that's fine, no judgment, but not for me. Actually, no judgment.

I mean, no judgment. But I reserve my right to laugh at your hammock-based sex acts, because that is pretty wild. I like it. Did any kind of, you know, penetrative sex? No. Oh, God. No. I got that right.

That made him feel ill. That's gross. I suggested it once, and he didn't talk to me for a week. I learned my lesson. I just went back to shitting in his mouth. He was like, that's the stuff. I mean, you don't want to kiss that man. No, not at all.

Well, Matt, that was illuminating. Also, fantastic that they all separately said, I was his favourite. Yeah, that's the best. After shitting was his favorite. Yeah, that's the best after Shitting his mouth. Yeah, just like I gave him the good stuff. Yeah, that I'd block that out, if you're honest. Yeah, I mean For me that's basically all I knew about him that he was the virus guy and that he um Copped it in the mouth. Well, he's yeah, he's he's done it down any do they ever need to be him about it? No, he he doesn't talk about that.

He doesn't like talking about Belize that much. Other than that they were all legal. Yeah, but yeah, do we mention that? He gets up to walk out at one point of an interview with that ABC interview. He strikes me as a dramatic boy at a time. I said no more, Bel more believes you're not playing by the rules we sit down and the voiceover is we didn't set any rules before.

Ron Howard doing it. There were no rules. There were no rules. That's right. That was voted on by the Patreon supporters. Oh fantastic. That's right. So that was voted on by the Patreon supporters. Oh fantastic, that's right. And it was a landslide. Really? I put up four banging topics, like file app, which I put up nearly every time. I put a vote up now, it always comes last. No one wants one.

I try to reword it so it's out and more. Who killed Australia's most famous racehorse? It's not a thought about this time. Still can't laugh. We see it through you shit. I have the feeling that maybe he's much more famous in America if people are writing articles about him every day. Yeah.

Yeah, a weirdo cult figure that gets written about all the time. Maybe. So maybe that's why it was a landslide. Because we do have a lot of American petruons. That's true. But yeah, there was... All the things I put up did include death because we hadn't, I don't think we didn't done any death for a while. And then

I'd do it and I remember why it's like, what, why do I put myself through this? Through this page. I try to block out the, yeah, try and block out the fuck things and try and think, oh, the whales. That's pretty funny. Also people probably think that you've talked enough about horses lately so far I'll have on the back burner for a few more months. I didn't even get back into the cycle. Yeah, right. Give it some time. Yeah, it probably would have got some people to vote for it and others to go let's just leave Matt and the horses. Yeah, for a bit. You've done enough damage to the Equal Art and Community. Yeah, all right. So, that brings us to the end of the report, but that brings us to everyone's favorite section

of the show. Now we've got this bit out of the way. Here we go. It is the Fact Quotal Question section. And the way this works, Dave, I don't know if you're aware of this. I can be up to speed. It's bought the show on Patreon, which is you might not have understood what I was talking about. Their Patreon is a site that you can sign up and support us on by giving us some sort of money.

That's why it's used to support like mostly online creators, YouTubers, people with podcasts, artists, musicians, that kind of thing. And we come under the podcast category and artists. Oh yeah, oh. Thank you. My goodness, yes. And yeah, if you like what we goodness, my goodness yes and yeah if you like what we do because we put out a free show every single week and have a

missed one in closing in on four years now you can go to patreon.com so Stu go on pod and you give us enough money to keep the show happening but also in exchange you get rewards. Hooray! To say thanks for your support. That's right and there are heaps of rewards. You can get two bonus episodes a month. That's a big one that people love that no one else can hear. You're part of a Facebook group if you'd like to be on Patreon where we talk about stuff with other Patreon supporters. You get to help vote for the topics.

Anyone can suggest topics. You don't have to be a Patreon for that, but Patreon's vote on two of the three topics that we do. And yeah, it's not always a landslide vote. This often it is really close votes. Especially with the other vote, which I'm doing at the moment, and I'll be putting up a topic very, very soon. And often it's one by literally one or two voters.

So you actually have the power to change what we talk about. And also shout outs, which we'll get to in a minute. But of course, there's the fact quite a question, which what's that? And if you sign up on the the Sydney Sharnberg Rest in Peace Deluxe edition memorial level rest in peace of course they're the people that actually will be voting on my topic. Right.

And they're the people that because it's quite a small tier there's not that many members. Yeah, you actually make sure you vote because. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you change it. Yeah, make sure you vote because... Yeah, but yeah. Yeah, you changed it. Yeah, big time. And Drew Pysner is one such, uh, uh, Sidney Shamburg level supporters. And with the fact quote, a question that he's given us, you also get to give us a title that you go by.

And Drew has given himself the title of the last lick of Los Angeles and the keeper of the Lost Law. Ooh. Let's be a... of the last lick of Los Angeles and the keeper of the Lost Law. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah, L-O-W-L-A-W. The law? L-O-R-E. Oh, very nice. Yeah, the Lost Law.

I think he's the guy who came up with two and a half men. Men, men, men, men, men, men. I'm going to choke Laurie down. Close. off men. Men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men I can sell sing every word before he was a Did even write the bits because there's lines like They're the world's most fearsome fighting team and then there's like the backup total goes that's a fact Yeah, love that stuff the heroes in a half shell and they're green. I love the lyrics I hear as in a half shell. We need another we need to bump this line out of it and They green I love lyrics like they're here as in a half shell. We need another, we need to bump this line out of it. And then green. It's a radical rat. You've got a lot of it.

Yeah, it's gonna taught them to be ninja teens. It's a radical rat. Raphael is cool, but rude. Mochic Langelo is a party, dude. Party. Anyway, Chuck, he turned half men big bang guy wrote, co-wrote that theme song. And Drew Passa's given us the longest fact-coder question ever. And I think we might, he might even be the one that means we have to put in a rule of

some sort of word limit. Oh, God. He's called it. It's basically a mini report. Is this his fact-coder a question? That's right. And it's a fact. A James Bond fact. He said, sorry, he said a Bond fact.

A James Bond fact. Oh, very good. And I don't read these until the night, but I'll be interested to find out if he's found, I mean I did a pretty extensive James Bond report a couple of years ago So this is a good supplement report potential. Oh, Lee He writes how much how many word can't we looking at what's the work?

It's very long. Oh my goodness. I don't know we have time for all that All right, well you that of that being That's of that being rude, seriously, he is like, it looks a lot. Actually, I'm looking at a report. Well, let me get stuck in, or you can start the clock. Okay, how long do you want? I don't know. What do you get three minutes on this?

I talk very fast, so. I don't know if that's true. Well, I'm gonna give you 90 seconds. No. Three minutes. When Ian Fleming began considering bringing Bond to the big screen in 1958, he got together with his friends Ivar Brice and Ernest Cunio. Incredible names. And a screenwriter, a Brice new named Kevin McClaury, and they began to write a James Bond screenplay later called Long

Ditude, Seven Out West. Though Fleming and McClaury got on well initially, McClaury's poorly received movie, which was a release during the writing process of the Bond screenplay, turned Fleming Sarah McClaury and had Fleming doubting his abilities. As Fleming became less intrigued by the project, he began spending less time working on it and as a result McClaury brought on a second-screen writer Jack Whittingham. To help finish the script, the film now, with a completed script was to be produced under the Xanadu Productions banner, formed by Fleming, McClory, Brass, and Cunio. But due to budgetary issues, the production was forced to fold. Though longitude, 7-8

West was never made nor film, Fleming reused the story in a later James Bond novel, Thunder Ball, which was released in 1961. I think I did cover a lot of this in the episode, but this is going into greater detail. McClaury and Whittingham both received an advanced copy of Thunderball and were immediately Thunderball. The great Tom Jones theme. Thunderball! I want my absolute favorites and then I really made a believe as Never They Never Get A. Well, that's not skip ahead and we're immediately angered to find out that their collaborative

story was being sold as the sole product of Fleming's imagination. And for that reason, the two took Fleming to court later that same year. Though the case was settled in Fleming's favor, the book was allowed to be published. The door was left open for McClure to visit the case and he did just that in 1983. One minute left. The case switched last three weeks and did not see Fleming attend due to a heart attack incurred at the same time ended with an out-of-court settlement by Fleming at the suggestion of Brice. McClaury got the literary and film rights to the screenplay while Fleming kept the rights

to the novel under the condition that future prints would have to acknowledge that the story was based on the screen treatment of Kevin McClaury, Jack Whittium, and the author. Because of the nuanced nature of the deal, when Thunderball was eventually adapted for the Silver screen, with Sean Connery playing Legendary Spy, McClaury received sole producer credit for the film under the Eon Productions banner, while regular series producers Albert R. Broccoli and Harry Saltzman received executive producer credits. Further complicating the matter, part of Eons deal with McClory allowed him to produce his own version of the screenplay, as long as he did not release within 10 years of Eons produced variant. In accordance with this deal, McClory did report. All right, thanks, Matt.

I'm going to have to cut you off there and stop you, but thank you for that. Fact, let me just say that's a fact. It is a fact. I got about halfway through it, but thank you for that fact. Let me just say that's a fact. It is a fact. I got about halfway through it, but I think basically it ends up being there's another version called Never Say Never Again, which McClaury got to make. And it's sort of like an outside of the Canon movie. Basically the same story.

And it's also Sean Connery. Also Sean Connery, which I think the name is a nod to him because he said he'd never played Bond again. And he's well, apparently said, I guess you'll say, I guess you'll never say never again. Right. And yeah, he got him on and he sort of played it was a different kind of bond. A lot of people love it. I've sort of got mixed reviews, but because he was sort of playing an older Bond. How have you now talked for another minute? I was trying to sum up what I think the rest of it will be. But we'll never know.

Never know. Well, maybe I'll post that mini report somewhere. Yeah, great. That's a good idea. Couple on Facebook. Yes, I'll put it on Facebook so people can read the rest of it. Thank you so much, Drew Piesner. Thanks, Drew. Thank you. Thanks people can read the rest of it. Thank you so much Drew Piesner. Thanks Drew. Thank you

Putting in that much ever. I'm so sorry Dave rudely cut us off. Sorry. I feel like that was you and me there together Sorry, sorry everyone. I'm sorry to true But we may have to put a limit on it next time so sorry Maybe like five sentences or something What are you looking? Well, look I don't want to become some sort of a word efficiency tyrant. I bet I that to my portfolio here with my productions. That's sure, you get to give yourself a title. It's word efficiency tyrant.

Yeah, that makes sense. That's right, words for you, me. Well, that brings us to our other favorite Patreon segment of the show, where we get to thank a few of our great supporters. Well, let me just check how long their names are and if they're too long we will not be able to There's no there's no more taping this machine. You do have to pop off Tonight right Dave, so I guess we should keep it efficient But I think we should give each of these six people the time they deserve right Dave

Please so if they had to have someone shit in their mouths, what? This is why we let Jess come up with the games that we play for the games. I was thinking we are the name there first company or their first three jobs. So he did like so many different things. What about, okay, I love that. Just to make it a little bit quicker, for example. Sure. How he did so many different things. What about, okay, I love that.

Just to make it a little bit quicker, for example. What have we say, what they're doing now? What we think they're doing now, and if they had an absolute midlife crisis, what would they do? Like, because you know how he gave up his text of the chemo yogi. Now to then. Okay. So are you saying you're saying, this is a job now, but then mid-life classes, they do this.

What would they use to be? Yeah, what's their plan B? Okay, great. Well, can I kick it off by thanking from Chesterfield in Moe, Minnesota? Missouri. Missouri. I think it is for some reason.

I'll be dead in the cold, cold ground. Before I recognize Missouri. So, Missouri. Even though they're dead in the cold cold ground before I recognize Missouri So Missouri is the oh's someone near the Ozarks It is Missouri because there's always like why isn't it Montana anyway go ahead And I'd love to thank from Chessfield Missouri Benjamin O'Gee or O'Gee Currently O'Gee O'- It's a great name. Because the World Rally Champion. Sebastian Oji-

Oh, it's a great name. Well done. And Benjamin currently works as a... Baker? Baker? It's very, very early. He doesn't want to do that anymore. What would he rather do?

Rather work in after school care. Oh, great. Get to sleep in now. Afternoon, she's mid-life crisis. Yep. He goes into education. That's nice. Okay. He just thinks, you know what?

I'm sick of baking. Yeah. I want to pass on this knowledge. Bakers have to get up early too. Yep. And they get to sleep in. Nitoriously bad counters though. So hopefully he's not teaching maths in after school

okay I'm telling you it's 13! Benjamin Ojiya in Mizzura! I want to go to Mizzura I want to visit some of those Ozark lakes see if I can make some sort of deals with other I've seen the show Ozark and everything like that it seems like a cool place. Cool. I'd also like to think if I may, from Vancouver in Canada. Canada? Canada, di-ball.

Canada. That's how all one word isn't, it's a con-ad-i-ball. Con-ad-i-ball. Con-ad-i-ball. Con-ad-i-ball. Well, my cousin in law is named Ricky Di- and he is nicknamed is dry balls very very good That's good stuff very good stuff. I didn't come up. I can't claim it. No, but I get to enjoy Dry balls. I think Connor is currently working as a

Posty or a male man. They make all them over there. Yep. What what is C change me pilot? That is a genuine C change from the Tech to the sky. Yeah, still delivering male. Yeah, he's a male pilot Keep watching the skis. I mean, skies. It's funny because I was actually going to say fly the tinder first. And then I changed to pilot. Are you two in sync?

Always. It's beautiful. Thank you. Thank you, Connor. Can I thank some people too? Yeah, please. I'd like to thank from Bellwood, Pah. Pennsylvania.

That's right. Not far from the Golden Mile. We got a mile. The man with two. Pittsburgh to Gary. Yes, we're gonna come up to drive that. Golden Mile. Two first names, I'd like to thank. John Luke.

Oh, Johnny Luke. A couple of biblical names there. Yeah. A couple of gospelian names. And what kind of job do you think John Luke has? A bookshop. Runs it? Yeah.

Works in it. Runs it. Oh! He's a entrepreneur. He's a Hugh Grant in Notting Hill type. Oh, it's Fopish. He's Fopish. He's more Hugh Grant than Bernard Black then.

Yes. So we like him, he's nice. Well, he seems okay. He's an American, agree with him in a reference, he understands. Oh, okay. Well, he seems okay. He's an American grieve him in a reference he understands Oh, okay, well, you don't know nodding Hill educate yourself on some Richard Curtis The man is a he's a master. He's a book owner in America Is there any

The library it doesn't matter because John isn't he doesn't own a bookstuff very long Oh, right. He goes on to do something else doesn't he garbage man? garbage man get out amongst it. That's what they call rubbish collectors in America. So well done for speaking his language Yeah, I said do you speak my language John Luke? This one he just smiled and put a veg might sandwich in the bin because that's what his job was Thank you very much. John it was a moldy vigilance. I was thinking John Luke. I like that as a as a tree change as well Not a tree change for the life changes so he up in the morning You're done. Yeah, you've got all afternoon and into the evening not all afternoon. You know obviously work in the afternoon, but I don't think they work

But he on the grind like the bloody people in the rat way raise up in the financial quarter. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Those clowns in camera, they never work. Yeah, I don't know. Thank you to John. Well, for John's benefit, I have Googled movie set

in a library. I thought that might be easier. These are the top five on IDB. The fantastic flying books of Mr. Morris Lesmore. OK, and the real ones, please. Number two, the librarian quest for the spear. Number three, the librarian return to King Solomon's minds. And number four, the librarian three,

the curse of the Judas cellus. Okay, so that didn't really help. No, and then there's gotta be bigger. John, if I put them, there's also the mummy at number seven. Okay, great. What about Giles from the Buffy? Oh, you just... Franchise, the Buffy? Oh, you just... Franchise, the Buffy franchise.

The Buffy franchise, thank you. Oh, that's right. From the Buffy. It was quite a way past saying it when my brain was like... You're not coming up there? I've got an exciting name here next. Oh, police? Like to think, from Toowoomba in Queensland,

he's in Australia. I would like to thank Jonathan Lithgow. No. You don't think. It must be. Not Mr. Henderson himself. It has to be. Oh my God.

I'm such a big, from the third rock, I'm a big Lith fan. He's amazing. We have talked about a spin off show, obviously phrasing the bar, but we've also, Jess off We have talked about a spin-off show obviously phrasing the bar, but we've also just often pod talked about Lithco show called Duke with go on. Yeah, I was about to make that pun so I'm so happy Yeah, that is fantastic stuff. So obviously I've never heard that you say that so I

I don't know did I say to you? Maybe I said it to someone else. There's me maybe yeah, I don't know if I'd prefer that I'm talking to I'm primates. What I don't know if I'd prefer that. Who else are you talking to? I'd be on primates. What? I don't know if I'd prefer that or the phrasing of the bar. They're both. I think I probably would enjoy the John Lysko one more, but we are so committed to Yeah, fair enough, fair enough. It's only 50 movies, we can do it. It's also going to be, I think, Brandon Frazer is also a delight, two delight for the American actor. Well, the most, I just mentioned a moment.

Exactly. I've already done two Lithgow films for primates, including Harry and the Henderson's. Well, speaking of, so obviously. I have one other that I've been playing in. Obviously Jonathan Lithgow is currently a world-renowned actor. Yes.

But. Did you know this about him? Also writes children's songs. Really? He's performed with an orchestra to perform singing his children's. Are we saying that's his second career then? Yeah, sure. Cool.

All right, so Jonathan was going to whom but was an actor but now sings to children. Jeez, I must be boring for him to get there. No, let's just do him. Yeah, I bet he was like, oh, that other person got garbage man. I got world renowned actor. I wanted garbage man. All right, well, John Lutth go. If you are a different John Lutth go, I'm gonna go out and lemme say that you were a house painter.

Oh, okay. But now, you are portrait painter. Yeah. Oh. Big. Yeah, he swapped his big brush for his little brush. That's right House paints to Pastels. Yeah, he works with pastels. Yeah, and he does a great job. He does I mean on screen he paints with his performances master

Oh, he paints for the fine brush on screen. Yeah Dave, would you also like to thank some people? I would like to thank, thank you so much. I would like to thank from Mount Aerie in MD. Is that Maryland? Do we get that a lot? MD, doogie house. Oh, let's look that up. Live on here, Mount Aerie, MD.

It is Maryland. Oh, great to have you on board. We don't yet many people in that fantastic area of the world. So I would like to thank for Matt airy Maryland Taylor Michael Mark I was like a 90 celebrity me. Yeah Taylor Michael Taylor Dane George Markle Jonathan Taylor Thomas Yeah, that would all do in a back then taking all the boxes until man Taylor. Oh Taylor Michael. I reckon Taylor Michael was a plumber. Yeah.

Throw it all in and now Taylor Michael is go. Life guidance coordinator. Yes. A careers counselor. Life coach. It's a bit of both actually. Yeah. I reckon it's manage. So over looks a team of life. Yes. Ah, project management. Oh, I love that. Yeah, a small team or a small team. I love that That's the back of the dozen Taylor Michael. Thank you so much Michael from Maryland, Maryland, Maryland. Great to be on board. I love your state flag. Well done What would we look at?

Kind of got a couple of puzzle pieces in the bottom left and top right and then some checkers in the top left and bottom right I've got a couple of puzzle pieces in the bottom left and top right and then some checkers in the top left and bottom right Yes, it's about as attractive as it sounds We wish you well All right, finally I like bringing you bring it bring it all back home now to Brunswick West in Victoria Oh Lucy Browning oh Lucy thank you Lucy Browning Lucy Browning on the fantastic name love your support your local support So I think that Lucy used to yes, what did she used to use to oh my god

deliver Crumpets oh wow, okay, she worked for a crumpet. Making company. That is a genuine job that my, one of my best friends has. As a delivery driver. As a delivery driver. And I thought. Delivery driver.

She makes crumpets. Is your friend's name Lucy? No. This Lucy could very well be my friend. If she and I would just open up to one another. Yeah. Well, she's got to deliver crumpets to your heart. So that's what she used to do, but she's trying to roll it.

She changed. She's trying to jump with the ball. Life change, Matt. Be the life crosses. What, what are you doing? Laugh God. Yes. Yeah.

I'm always winning. You won't get me out of your self. I'm doing it. Do it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. BIRD. That's beautiful. Oh fantastic. Thank you to Lucy there. Thank you. Thanks to everyone who supports us on Patreon.

I think so much. It means a lot to us. It means the world to us. It really does. I love each and every one of you. And your names are always the best. Yeah, it's such a good name. Just another fantastic bunch of names.

Yeah, good on them. A baker's half-dozen there. Oh, thank you so much. No, sorry, mathematicians half-dozen there. I never heard of that before, but I like it. That's a good joke. Should we end there on that good joke? Yeah, end on a good joke.

We've finally got there. That's the end on the middle. That's a radio rule is end on the last. Nice one, and then discuss it. Yeah, in the next talk break. To extend it when you've laughed, 043-0 and a 7575, that's my phone number. That's a triple J phone number. Yeah, to extend it when you've laughed. Oh, 430 and 7575. That's not my phone number, that's a triple J phone number.

Yeah, right. In case I'm doing my... I'd be there depending on the time. ...to stupidity it just gave away a phone number. Well, so I guess we should say once again if people are looking to come see us live, we're gonna be in Brisbane, Perth, and Sydney coming up. Yeah, please come along.

We book it in and then we just hope that the people that say they're going to come will come. Yeah, the people who have campaigned for us to come. Yeah, we're like, can you come? Okay, yeah, great. We'll come and then hopefully you will come. That day. I didn't actually want to come. I just want the other show. I was joking.

You! Yuck. It's always nice when people about tickets early too, because then we go, oh great, it's going to be good. We don't have to cancel it. We have to cancel this. We have to get to go. So check it out dogoonpod.com for all links to our live shows.

Also, the merchandise that Jess mentioned, those T-shirts now on sale, you can hit us up on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter, at dougoOnPod and there's links also on the website, also YouTube channel. There's a few live videos going up. Yes. And that's real cool. Yeah, they're really good. Put that on the spot there and he panicked.

Let's not forget the mathematicians half dozen. Yeah. Good stuff, Matt. Thank you. You can tap out now. You've done your job But yeah, get in contact do go on pod at gmo.com is also another way to hang out and suggest a topic You can do that through the website as well anyone can do that and yeah You tell us why we should do it and then we'll shout out to you when we inevitably get through them all hmm What was that love that? Mmm. Love that.

Love? That. So, I'm ready for bed. Okay. I'm so glad this is my house. No, well, we're all getting into Matt's bed tonight, so we better wrap this up, so. Get to our jammies. Until next week, I will say, good night!

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