Do Go On - 2 - Australian Rules Football

Episode Date: November 11, 2015

Matt Stewart's first report is all about the fascinating story of how the most fair dinkum Aussie game on Earth (AFL) came about in the 1850s. Hear how the game developed over 150 years through the highs, the lows and the Shinboners.Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome to Do Go On! That's right, the comedy podcast, the show where we find something interesting and talk about it, and hopefully we'll make it interesting enough for you not to turn off the show. That's the plan, my name is Dave Warnke, and I'm sitting here with my charm, my cohort, my co-host to the stars Matt Stewart. Hey Dave, how's it going? This is a comedy podcast, is it? When did that happen? Uh-uh, well, what, what, what, what starts now? From now, right?

Can you tell us a great joke? Oh, please, that's a little bit of pressure. Could I maybe throw it across to my co-host, my cohort, my charm, Jess Perkins? Oh, hello Matthew, hello David. Hello Jess Perkins, that's right, you are here to spark them up, how you going? I'm very well, I'm very well.

I'm feeling like, now I need to be really energetic. And sometimes I'm worried that my voice goes a bit in the, so I have to be very careful of that. You've also got to be comedy apparently. This is a comedy podcast. That's right, well Matt and I are the boring people that like trivia a lot. Okay. I really wish you had of told me then before and that I'm here for the comedy and the

vigor. You are the comedic relative. Okay. Alright. Well. Hey, should we should we get started with today's topic? Yes. And it's up to you to introduce that topic. Matt, because it's your turn. You've researched something, you've prepared a report and Jess and I have no idea what you're about to talk about. Well how we like to do it is kicking it off with a question. Because it's a trivia sort of inspired podcast. Yeah well that I'm and I have battled for a question here and this is not a good one but and like super

misleading but let's give it a go. Now, what would you say is Australia's greatest invention? Australia's greatest invention. Hills hoist. Oh, damn, I was going to say Hills hoist. Vetch you might. Oh, good one. Actually, I'm not even into Vetch you might, but I know. I'm either.

Oh, I'm just. That's why you're here to back up all of my opinions. And do you get abused for that all the time? I feel like I'm not that big on Vetch you might. People don't want to. What do you mean you're not Australian? The one that I get abused for that all the time? If you're like, I'm not that big of a victim. What do you mean, you're not Australian? No, the one that I get abused about is, I don't drink coffee.

People get in there and they want to beat the shit out of you. No, no. Those big flavors, maybe that's a big flavor. Yeah. I think the younger you are, right? I'm more of a dull bread, man. There's something about. Dull bread, but loud shirts, so.

That's right. That's true. There's something about, like, as you get older, your taste buds die and you need grosser foods, I reckon. Just to make yourself taste anything. I needed taste. I just needed taste.

I just needed taste. Oh, eventually you might, that used to be too gross, but I love it now. Now I feel alive. Now I feel something. Yeah, maybe, I don't know. All right, so if he's a, he's another invention.

My dad tells me every time I get into an aeroplane is the evacuation slide. No, I'm in the pinhole. Oh, I'm in the jump-down. So, Australian invention. I think so is the black box. Spray on skin for burn victims. Oh, wow.

Australian woman invented that. No, this was invented in 1858. 18, okay. Okay. 1858. It's just the same. Probably wasn't the NBN. Probably wasn't. But wasn't the NBA either. That's American. You're getting warmer there though. Oh. Cricket. No. Stralean invention.

AFL? Yes. Stralean is football. Australian rules football. Yeah. Some were talking about. And you think that's a better invention than the Hills Wars and Benchmark? Well, that's what has such a poor question. Oh, maybe. It's right. It's always a question that has no factual answer. I think it's a, I think it's a pretty great game. I have no, and this is something I was thinking about. I have no idea if either of you know anything or have any interest at all in Australia and also ball. do you? Oh, no. Look, I've got a team. Yeah, I've got a team. I've got a team.

I've got a team. I got a calling wood. Okay. I've got a calling wood, which is if you're not an Australian person, that's a pretty controversial. It's a very popular team, but that's the... It's the most hated, yeah. The team that everyone else has asked. It's the most hated, yeah.

The team that everyone else has asked. It's the most hated, yeah. The team that everyone else has asked. The team that everyone else has asked. The team that everyone else has asked. The team that everyone else has asked. The team that everyone else has asked. The team that everyone else has asked. The team that everyone else has asked. Man United version. Okay, I'm talking well. The APL calling would be the Man United, but what would be the American version of it? New York Yankees, maybe.

Yeah, maybe a very popular team. I'm not sure if everyone else, I think people was talking about it. They just love to hate them. I give me a Pittsburgh, I've heard people say that, don't know what that means. Now give me the example of the Indian Premier League cricket. Oh, the Chennai Super Kings. Oh my goodness. I can't live out of your hands for that. It's them all the Mumbai royals. Goodness, my goodness.

I know a lot about sports. No, I the cricket is probably one of my favorites. They're the they are the latent hua of the white. More like the Pete San Pras. I think my team is see what if you've got any sort of under the floor. You're from the affluent East so I can definitely definitely a Hawthorne man. Hawthorne man. No I live in Hawthorne now in a house that I rent. So shittiest house on the most expensive street. That's what they say. That's the one above. That's the one to rent one about that's the one to rent yeah we rented every week for 40 years who alone at the end when we

including Matthew's uh that was anyway he used to be on an on an ad or rent rent money is dead money and he's over renting to bias anyway he's a he's the greatest ever AFL player what you? Is that what you think? Well, that's what he was the player of the scene. Lee Matthews. Lee for Lee. Lee for Lee. As a coach.

I only know him as a mortgage sales. A mortgage salesman. That's finally something I can relate to. No, I go for the, and I chose this as the child of the Western Bulldogs. Oh, great time. Bulldogs. Great time. Why did you choose them?

Well, everyone else in my family is Richmond supporters, and I want to be a bit different. My sister was big into football as a child, not anymore, just in their primary school years. And I think the Bulldog, in my head, I thought that a Bulldog could beat a tiger because you know cats versus dogs. But a tiger would, I think, destroy any sort of dog. Biggest cat in the world Absolutely, yeah, pamphled Just dogs I think it could take most animals So the only one that could beat it are I can use the essence and bombers because I'm a good one What about the demons. Oh, yeah, there you go. They're like superhuman

What about a posis what about a possess? Human demons what about a what about a possess? What about a possess? Superhuman demons. What about a possess? Good run, Matt. Just leave the juxtapirkins, alright? See, you did say it was a company podcast. I didn't believe you until then. Until right.

Now I'm on board. So, I went with the Western Bulldogs and they've never been good in my lifetime until this year they're doing. That's not true, they've played in multiple preliminary finals in your lifetime. Yeah, but there's not been any good. Come on. Top four teams. My team, the saints have knocked you out of the finals three times in our lifetime. Zero since killed a fan.

I think who are the most loser-ish team of the competition. Did they get the wooden spoon this year? They've had the most wooden spoons by a long way. No, they're not currently the worst, but they are long-time the worst. They're one nearly 30 wooden spoons. In what, 150 years? No, well, the comp hasn't been around that long. The game itself has been around that long.

Oh, wow. Oh, so one third of the time, we have as a hundred years, every third year. Yeah, basically. So why do you pick them? I grew up in Marabin where they used to play. It was a family thing. It was actually, I was born a Carlton supporter.

And because I was my mom's side of the family, moved to Marabin and my uncle John said, Matt, can I have you for a minute and he brought me into the front Land room Down and said give you talking to Matt you go for the Saints now I said okay John and that was yeah, and I've been a member of the club like I pay 300 bucks a year to be a member of that team Oh my goodness, so yeah, it was ever since that. Was he very intimidating convincing man?

He had a strong mustache. Yeah, and it was not one of them weak sort of pencil one. They're like a real. Like 70s police mustache. Police mustache. And then since then has he led you Australian any other respect? No, never, never, never did me wrong.

Matt, you love avocados now. Yes, John, yes I do. Now that was a Hamish from the bakery at Safeway who got me into avocados, but anyway. Shout out to Hamish. Should we, I've, I've, I've written somewhat of a report here and we haven't even got into it at all. So I'm, Matt, I'm gonna ask you to do go on.

Name of the show everyone well all right Game show What sort of show is it comedy is it a game show? Oh, it's it's Come on down and they only got two speeds zero and Baby John Burgers That's all I got that two's two old of a reference. Hey, Tony Barber, Glenn Ridge. Who's the guy on one of the shows?

One of the Burgess family feud guy. Grant Daniel. Grant Daniel. What about, no, the most insane person on television is Andrew O'Keefe. Oh, yeah. That guy is in the same, and I hear a waterfall. All right, zero to Andrew O'Keefe, we'll go with that.

So I want to just paint a picture, right? This is just because in my head I'm like 1858, the game was invented. I just have no real concept of what that means. So I looked up on the internet, some things around the world that happened in 1858. The advertiser started that year, the Adelaide advertiser, Newspaper. Great, definitely something for our international listeners there. Well good, if you like that. I think you said around the world.

Let me do that. Oh my goodness. You got that benchmark? You guys familiar with the wedding march? Yeah. It's the song that became popular that year because it was played at the marriage of Queen Victoria's daughter, Victoria,

to the print Frederick of Prussia. How does a wedding march go? Prussia, so Germany didn't exist yet. Oh, that's how old this is. I had mad days out there, I'm sorry, I could go. Yeah, you're right. I feel like I've been here before. Well Germany, you have, you were here the other way

I think Germany's about 60 years away. It's just before the second first world war that Germany gets together Yeah, so it should do it's a journey of so one time Yep, and I don't I can't I looked up the pronunciation is you guys you guys for me with the Lude or lords or lords apparitions Lod or lords or lords apparitions There's a Christian thing where a young French girl in the town of Lod Lord L-O-U-R-D-E-S. I'm pretty sure the S is silent in French but the way we would bastardize it would be lords I'd say

Anyway, I learned about this in primary school. This young peasant girl Bernadette saw the mother Mary in the sky people still I've been there when there a few years ago people still go there to get the Holy water to cure cancer and stuff obviously a load of bullshit, but that's obviously not because you survived That's true back. I'm back. That's true. I did have a pretty bad hangover cleared right up that I'd right Just drank a gallon of that stuff the city of Denver, Colorado was founded Any 58 and finally this time is a nice one root off diesel The inventor of the diesel engine was born. He was born. Yeah

My goodness. I always thought diesel was just a kind of petrol. I didn't know it was a kind of human inventor of an engine that neat, anyway. Well, I think it is a type of petrol, it was just named after that guy. Yeah, but I thought, anyway, I thought it, cool. Hey, does it, does that mean, is there a guy called Gary Petroleum? Yeah, from Denver, Colorado, also born in 1858. Well that makes sense. Now it all connects up in my mind. So anyway, the man who invented the game was as seen as the godfather of Australia was the bulls and man named Tom Wills right. There's an Australian born man. This is before Victoria existed as well. Anyway.

So the state of Victoria. The state of Victoria. So Tom Willes, he was born into a wealthy family of convict descent and he was a really talented cricketer. Age of 14 he went over to England to study and play cricket. He tore it up over there as a scene as one of the best cricketers in England. And he studied at the rugby school, which apparently is where rugby was invented, makes sense. But he was playing cricket. But he was playing cricket. At the rugby school. Yeah, well, the rugby didn't really exist yet. So back in this time, there was no standardized code of football anywhere in the world.

So there were all these, every school had these loose rules and they were all kind of similar, but they sort of started a morph in different directions. And the rugby one ended up being what became rugby union and rugby league. So this school was like, hey everyone, just jump on each other. Yeah, we got it. But so he came back to Australia a few years later in 1856. So obviously that was going a few years before. Where he kept in the Victorian Cricket Team, the Melbourne Cricket Club. And then in 1856 he had the idea to start a football league for Victorian cricketers to stay fit

through the winter. All right, because crickets are summer. Summer sport, yeah. So, um, because there were no, uh, set of rules, he drew up a set of rules, uh, in, uh, 1958, based on sort of all these different, sorry, 1850, yeah, I have a real trouble with, um, only being able to remember one century of numbers. Okay. 18, actually, I've written nine in 50, yeah, that's probably why. only being able to remember one century of numbers. Okay, 18. Actually, I've written 954, that's probably why.

So he's written up his own rules. So yeah, with the committee of four, he wrote up his own rules based on a range of different codes that he saw in his time in England. Right on. And then later that year in 1858, he founded the Melbourne football club, which is the demons. So they are the oldest club. They're the oldest club in Australian rules football, but they're actually one of the oldest football clubs of any kind in the world. Hold on. I've got to put it up here. They're the oldest club of all and they could have picked any mascot. So everything's up for grabs. You could have anything you like. Just tigers, this lions, this every single bird, this snakes, dinosaurs, UFOs, absolutely anything you like.

Except for things that haven't been invented to the cars and stuff. And they went with, oh, yeah, Melbourne demons. In a very skeptical time. They were not called the demons until much, much later. In the past they were call the red legs, based on the red socks. Oh, great. That's an even better mask. I wonder why the other terms that name. Which I don't mind. The red legs. They were initially known as the fuchsias. Fuchsias. Fuchsias. Yeah. The other fuchsias. Oh. Oh, that sounds tough, doesn't it? It's kind

of pretty. It's a very pretty. It sounds more like a nipple team. So yeah, it's quite a So when you in that context of me isn't it? That's what fuchsia's red legs Maybe demons isn't so bad. That's it. Oh suddenly it's sounding a lot better. Yeah, I mean yeah Anything else because traditionally football teams go for a tough mascot tough. Yeah. What's something animal? Something native to the state. Yeah, it's either there's no Melbourne kangaroo or one I mean, you know a one bat in the league or anything. There is a kangaroo Oh, damn it. Sorry, Dave. I always thought magpies was particularly intimidating like yeah, they swoop at you But that's not scary at all. They got that name because there was a big Magpie population around their home ground

It's home apparently and they were I think, already wearing black and white sort of. It's kind of made sense. Yeah, that's what I believe, you know, sure. And now I also believe, because you told me that I believe it's in your sense. So yeah, so you said one of the oldest teams, they're obviously the oldest Aussie rules team,

but they're also one of the oldest football teams of any code in the world. I think they're something like the 12th oldest. The oldest being Guy's Hospital, Rugby Union team. Are they from that rugby school? No, they're from Guy's Hospital. Guy's Hospital, where's that? It's in hospital in England.

They've now merged with the Kings and St Thomas rugby football club. So they're now called the guys Kings and St Thomas rugby football club. That is a bit...no wonder we've never heard of that. Yeah, that's a mouthful. The other ones are kind of boring. There's some like some soccer teams as well, but mainly the oldest ones are all rugby union teams. Yeah, anyway, that's an interesting point. Well, there you go. Jolong for Borkob was formed a year after the cats. Oh, okay, right. So they were originally called the

Pivotonians. What? The Pivotonians. So it was the Red Lake Justice time. The Pivotonians. And the fuses versus Pivotonians and every week they display each other other. I mean the first week it's great because Melbourne have got both the Grand Final championship and the wooden spoon at the same time. Well there's, interestingly, the rules are still super loose. At this stage you didn't kick goals, you still ran goals over the line. Right on. There was no limit to the amount of players you could have on a team. No limits. He could get a 50 made stand. Exactly. And I don't think there was

a limit to the time a game would go. It was just, I think it was first to two goals. So it could go for a long time. Yes, especially if you've got a hundred people in front of the goal, just blocking you. And at the time, obviously, people from overseas always laugh at the AFL red sharing the way that it shapes the football. Was it shapes that way from the beginning? Yeah, so it started off as a just a pig's bladder. I think that's what it was. So yeah, it was just a blown up bladder. Nice. I think that's partially what it came in that weird shape. Probably where their socks were so red, the cheeky red. I think that was partially why it came in that weird shape probably where their socks were so red They're taking a random life look at that animals. That's not something I read recently. That's something that's going from the back of my head

So I might it be right I want that strickens from the record Um, it's there stuck in my head in the in the following years in the 60s the Carlton football club was formed The North Melbourne football club was formed who are the kangaroos. Damn it. I'm so embarrassed that I said I was not kangaroo in the 60s, the Carlton football club was formed, the North Melbourne football club was formed. Who are the kangaroos? Damn it, I'm so embarrassed that I said that was not kangaroos. In the 70s, the SNN, the St. Kild and South Melbourne football clubs were formed, and at that 1870s, also team uniforms were introduced. Also before that.

For that, they just, it was just two more colored hats. And colored socks. They used to wear long leather boots and like a tied-up canvas Like they're pretty much wore formal attire and And a hat I say good day Well, there's like 300 people on each team Yeah, most of them are just hanging out And they're throwing a bladder to someone with the same colored as they have. And there wasn't a boundary, so stadiums weren't enclosed.

So the crowds would often just sort of be on a little bit on the field as well. It'd be very confusing game. But as if it's not confusing enough now, if you haven't seen it before. So one thing that really set it apart from all the other footy codes was there's no offside rule. So soccer and rugby and that sort of thing, players can't be in front of the ball. So you're a bit in Australian rules you can have players at either end of the ground at any time. I mean I think that was probably just because there were so many people who could

all fit behind the balls. And at this time so you're running across the line but are still people trying to kick it around? You could, at that stage, I think you could run only as far as you needed to kick it. It wasn't until later that they brought in running and the bouncing rule. Yeah, so keep pushing on. This is the VFA, which is now called the VFL. It was quite confusing, but the VFA was formed in 1877 when Albert Park, Carlton, East Melbourne, Essin and Jolong, Hotham, Melbourne and St Kudor for Borkhub and Group Together

a week earlier than that, the South Australian Football Association was formed. So the South Australian League is... Is it actually older than the Victorian. No wonder we started with that later the top of the show. Yeah, totally designed that way. God, he's good. So that was that was the big league. That is now known as the VFL confusingly because 19 years after the VFA was formed in 1896 the VFL was established which is now called the AFL. Right, so that was the Victorian Football League.

That's right. And that was when the six strongest clubs in the VFA basically broke away. And that was Cullenwood Estonon, Fitzroy, Jolong, Melbourne, and South Melbourne. And they also brought along a couple of Shittyer teams, St. Kilda and Carlton. Right. St. Kilda, apparently, I was being told recently, we were kind of lucky to get in.

It was meant to be, well, Port Melbourne, who's still in the VFL, I think it should have been them, and they're still bitter about it, like 115 years later or whatever it is. They're still bitter, even though there's been generations of players that have opportunities to go to the best sites. Yeah, exactly. It's interesting. So that year, Essin won the first Premiership, and there was a final series. Was it just who's got the most points? It was just whoever's on top of the end of the season. But from then on, basically, apart from a couple of years, it was finals decided, the premiere.

Look, I'm given a lot of dull information. No it's totally fine. I'm gonna make a joke, Jess. Spots. Spots. What about, what's that? To the site with the Seribat 18s? Yeah 18s initially. So I know up to, do you know how many were up to here? 18. 18, yeah. But I belong to where I host my pub trivia, where a lot of this interest and facts come from. At the Eroisten and a pub enrichment, they have a footy tipping competition every year. If you pick nine, so there's nine games in an average round and if you select nine out of nine and get it right, then you get a free meal on the pub that week

Oh, that's a good deal, but if it was on the eights No, but I'm saying if there was only eight teams So that's on the four games that I forget I'd be getting a free meal every week Yeah, yeah, some of them especially some of the teams suck and that you said carton secure It's been brought along. Thank you. It's not bad. Oh, man. Oh, imagine that I would get a free parmer every week I'll need you to do his time travel time travel back to a time before the pub Even existence and before parlors existed Before anything just all that existed was people running around in the long leather boots. Oh, yeah

Totally well time to be alive. Oh, I imagine I've been a great time just And just so such and like, what I love about it, it's so escen, you know how they, they've won the most permissions, that won in 1897 counts in the 16 permissions that they brag about. It's just like, it's so funny that it's like a matter of pride that, like people who, the game barely resembled anything like what they play now. It's not even the same game, yeah. We're the best.

So we've won all the pre-mishops. A lot of them were before your grandparents were born. I don't know. So in the 1880s, this is during the FAA days, they restricted the numbers from unlimited dance of new. Oh, what? Down at 20. 20 per team.

So the coach, I imagine that week, the coach is called all 300 people in it and said, you're cut. The following people are cut and it took three hours, three that all the knows. So it just whittles down to all those 20 people sitting there going, yes! And they made this squash! And it was they finally gets that, they're like, oh, I should have just read all the ones who did get in. Yeah, that would have been a lot of hits.

Don't just stick to this, it would did get in. Yeah, that would have been a lot of hits. Don't just say this would have made sense. Anyway, that was satisfying. I like letting people down. And there's also people that still claim, yep, my granddad, my great, great, granddad used to play for Ascendant. Back when there was 700 people working a week. Got football in my blood. And then in 1899, the VFL, so a couple of seasons in they reduced it to the

current 18 players per side on the field. So even two more. Brutal. Yeah. You've you've survived. You've beaten 600 of your mates, but you're not good enough to beat. If you're one of 600 the kids cut, you'd be like, no, that's all right. 600 of a square cut. If there's like 20 and only two of you go, I don't know how you're just, you just played two seasons with all of them and then they're like, you're not the top 20. And you're looking at like,

they've changed the rules just to get you out. Yeah, that's right. This match, you would blow. He is bloody rough. He is bloody rough. No, but we said he's in the 20. Great, we're gonna get rid of it, dude. Let's just change the rules, get 18.

Um, here's, here's an interesting fact and a record that still stands in 1899, St. Scored what remains the lowest score in the league's history One point one point for the whole game and that was against the Jolong Pivotonians who scored 163 oh I'd like to imagine that one point was an accident as well to imagine that one point was an accident as well. So long ago I went, ah, whoops. Yeah, they were like chapter. We're on the other one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just still wasn't even a goal. 62 to one. Yeah, the same sucked real bad. Is that still a matter of pride for you guys? Yeah, we do have a lot of records the same. And they're all about being the worst at everything. Yeah, yep.

So the competition's been going, what's your math like? That's 116 years. And, or even older than I think. Since 1899. 1897. Oh, but I thought you meant the VFL. Yeah, the VFL's 1897. Please, if you're not going to pay a 10.

118. And the saints of one one premiership in that time. When was that? Oh, six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. One point. You've won one out of one hundred and eighteen.

Yeah. If they win one in your lifetime, is that going to be a very most short day? Yes, it will be. More so than the day your son was born? Do you think? Yes. Fifty-thousand.

If your uncle going to sit down your son one day and could have been soon to a parakeet or some killed him. No, he's already been allocated the saints, so. Yes! Is your uncle gonna sit down your son one day and get a pair of clothes and kill the other? No, he's already been allocated the Saints, so... I'll get it. Yeah, we had a cut of deal. Emma's... Oh, Emma my partner, mother of my child.

She's a bulldog's lady, but she could not give a shit about football. Well, her and I have got a lot of comments. I could not... I'm... I'm going for the Bulldogs, I could not name you one player this year. I don her and I have got a lot of going. I could not, isn't it? I'm buried for the Bulldogs. I could not name you one player this year. I don't think I could either. We used to have Coody. Who would be the Bulldogs player that people would know? He's the best one. Spontan Pelley. He should be a main man. Is he his first name, Bontan? No. I was going to say that. Mark is Bonton Pelley. Oh.

Is that a double barrel surname? No, it's just a single barrel. Bonton Pelley is one word. Yeah, it's great now, Mark. And they call him Bonts. Bonts, I like that. Me and Bonts. He's a gun. He'll be like, you'll definitely have heard of him over the next few years, if you haven't. Already, which you haven't, because you just saw me so. No, no, no.

Well, let's keep moving, because we've got over 100 years to cover still. Well, to be fair, we've discovered 50 years, pretty good. I do skip over a big chunk soon. In 1908, the VFL bring in a couple of new teams, the Richmond football club, and the university Blues football club

Not to be confused with a puberty blue I'm the Richmond football club. You would know are still going strong The tiniest I don't know. Do you have any knowledge of them? University Blues. No, I just know it's the Coulton Blues now Yeah, so the University Blues were a team made up of Melbourne University Students, man, they're depressed. They were nicknames. They wanted to actually say University Blues I think that's what they're now known as in the VFA. I'm I'm just writing out things from memory. That might be wrong. They'll

call the University Football Club and their nickname was the students. Go the students. Oh that's lame. It's really lame. They weren't too successful. I'm not surprised because everyone else is like, man, and they're just like, they did 19 years old. They're boys. Yeah, everyone's under 22 because after that you finish Union you're out. They never finished higher than 6 on the ladder in a 10 team comp. I was going to say these days that's pretty good but out of 10 it's not so good. And they weren't too successful and one of the main reasons for that was that the players were more focused on their education, especially around exam time.

How dare them! My goodness, to play a game, and I imagine at this time it's not a professional game where you're being paid to play. So, come on students. It's just a stupid game that someone's invented not that long ago. Yeah. Well, I would have played for my uni and I would have done a half hour's job and also not done my uni work. I had no excuse. Yeah. I was doing nothing of everything. But they only lasted in the competition until 1914, losing their final 51 matches. Oh, that's a cold shot. This is terrible, but did they lose

because all of them had to go after the fight the first world war? No, that's not. No, they were just really studying hard. All right, I just thought that they look around the uni and went, no, they were just really studying hard. All right, I just saw that they look around the inn and he went, oh, we've just drafted them all. Oh. But that wasn't an issue. That's an issue that we're about to come to. Oh.

So that left it to just nine teams. Um, here's the thing that I wanted to point out, I think, because I'm a bit of a saint supporter. Um, there was a final series, a system called the ARGA system for many of the early, we're about the first 30 years or something like that, different version of the ARGA system, which meant that the team who finished on top of the latter at the end of the normal home and away season they got the chance to challenge the team who won the Grand Final. So the Saints won the Grand Final in 1913, but Fitzroy finished on top so they got to challenge the Saints to a second

Grand Final and the Saints lost that second Grand Final so far. And this happened for 30 years, so. Yeah, so I imagine every year they would challenge because you got nothing to do so that you are the top team and you win the match. Yeah, exactly. They definitely did. So it's basically just giving the top team and you win the game. Yeah, exactly. They definitely did. So it's basically just giving the top team a double chance. But if that happened now, the Saints under the currencies and the Saints would have had too bloody permission.

That sounds like one of those lame things that a game show does to try on. Oh, I can't, Maddie. Remember, you said that. Do you remember any of the things that one of those lame things that a game show does to try and spice things up a bit? Yeah. Oh, well no one's watching the show anymore So now you've won all the money, but you can risk it. Yeah play our old champion. Yeah

Anyway, I just wanted to just touch on that. I know I'm probably over it I didn't know about it to be honest. It's like oh what it outraged you though. Did you know about before you anger in your eyes before reading this? though. Did you know about the forewreet? I could see the anger in your eyes. Before reading this, researching this? No, I wasn't aware of that at all. I don't think that's a super well known fact. Well, let's get it out there. Come on guys, hit the streets, get your sandwich, Ben has made. Okay, so in 1916, due to the First World War, Estonans St. Kilda, Melbourne, Jolong, and South Melbourne all dropped out of the competition to allow their players to fight in the war Leaving only the unpatriotic that's right the cowardly teams of Collinwood, Carlton, Richmond and Fitzroy to play out the system That was a season

Now we'll tell them we're going we'll tell them and then they all go they're like oh there's only three teams left top three It's like at that time, you know, it was seen as being totally was thanks to like footballers not going over to war was seen as a real 20s year. And it was a real divisive issue. And there were people were sort of campaigning to make returned soldiers have stars next to their name in the guide. Also, you wouldn't, so the Eugenic. You wouldn't do those ones. We see you could be like,

basically you go on the guards without the stars are reckonin' as well. Yeah, you're going, that's center. Coward, he has a future. He has a future. But so because it was a four, only four teams left and it was a final four, there was a bit of a quirk that Fitzroy won the wooden spoon and still got to play for Hunels.

And not only that, they won the premiership. So they were the bottom team for the league and then they won the premiership. They won both the wooden spoon and the premiership in the same season. They lost the community's respect. Yeah. Okay. So I'd make that exact same choice knowing what the first word was like.

Oh, totally. Oh yeah. No, thank you. Any excuse. I'm here to look at them. I'm entertaining the people who are out giving the spirit tie. The Elvis Presley of 1916. I'd take the white feather. Did you learn about that at school? The white feathers. Oh yes. Yeah, so you, if you saw a young fit guy in the street there was

a team of women who were going to go and they'd leave them in their litter boxes and stuff. Give your white feather to try and embarrass you into the army. Yeah. It just be cried. Well the jokes on them because I'd made my white feathers into a beautiful hat. Where're here with pride. Quietly in my own lander. I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. Can I play please? Come on, let us have a go. Oh, come. It's me versus the whole team.

Still score more points than St. Kilda in that time. Oh, it's true. It took the same, I think it was like four or five seasons to win their first game. It was weird. And there's all these other teams that are getting fired for being terrible, but they still keep scraping through. Well, we started winning when the university came in. I think we started, we were now the second worst. Oh, okay. You could beat the children.

That's right. Let's beat those amateurs. Let's skip past the war. I think we've had enough. Okay, yeah, enough war chat. Those teams started coming back into the league. I don't want to disappoint you Matt. I don't want to disappoint you Matt, but after this war, it seems like it's going to be okay, but then there's another big war coming up. Spoiler alert.

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For the so few years later the 1925 season the VFL we're kind of bringing a tenth-themed sort of level the numbers up against because everyone's not Having a buy every week and this is the roaring 20s after all and this is something I only learned yesterday That they were strongly considering a public service football club to be the tenth team in the league It was made up only of federal and state public service Imagine that now It would be so so good Oh my goodness, Joe Hockey's out there can get it soft Guys if you win this will win the respect and I can put it even even more corrupt budget through

guys if you win this, we'll win the respect. And I can put even more corrupt budget through. Oh, but obviously that didn't quite happen in the end. And instead they, and it was quite a big drawn out thing with the VFA, but they eventually brought in three teams from the VFA. And they were your boys. Also, the VFA was still going on. The VFA was going going on At the least going yeah underneath they were likely and more of an amateur league and the league we're getting paid a little

So were they a bit annoyed that the politicians were considered before them even though they're actually playing the game? Yeah, well footscrew apparently they were the dominant team in the VFA at that time So they big fish little pond. Yeah, and then they will they were they of the teams that came across, they ended up boosting the league up to 12 teams. They brought in Futscray. Yep. We were the Western Bordogs now. Hawthorn, who were like the dominant team of today, and North Melbourne kangaroos. And Hawthorn and North Melbourne took ages to get any real wins on the board, but the board obviously pretty well almost straightaway. Well, it's a...

I'll take credit for that. Yeah, that's been flipped on its head long term, but because the board dogs with the saints of both only one, the one Premiership. When was that for the board dogs? 1954. 1954. What a great year that I was. Right year, right year.

Good memories, good memories. That's all about 54. 1954. What a great year though. Right year. Good memories. Good memories. I like this little factor. In 1927, the South Australian Football League renamed itself the South Australian National Football League. And as far as I'm aware, there weren't then and there never have been any teams from outside South Australia

in the South Australian national pool. Big city dreams. Probably more of an aspirational man in my dress. But yeah, that's how the Australian international into collective football. It is kind of similar to Miss Universe or something or the World Series in baseball. Like, yeah, you mean only for these few American teams. That's right. In 1930, Collingwood, your boys, became the first and only team still this day

to win four straight premierships. Oh. So that was the 30s. Yeah, so again, there are teamers one, like the third most amount of premierships, and like a lot of them were done. Yeah, we again, there are team who's won like the third most amount of pre-marchives and like a lot of them were done. Yeah I 1934 Bob Pratt kicked 150 goals in the season. He was a South Melbourne player

Still that's that was that record that's still the record. It was matched much later by a guy called Peter Hudson and But he did it with like he did it in 10 more games. He did it including all the finals and along the scenes. So Bob Pratt, I think he did it and he averaged, I should know the fact there, but he did it in very few games. It was like something that will never be repeated every game. And he's not on Australian bank note. What a travesty. The leading goal kicker this year in 2015 was a guy who kicked 75 goals.

And that was in more games. Wow. Yeah, so who was that? Do you know who the 75 was? His name's Josh Kennedy for the Eagles, I think. 75. Yeah. Pretty good, but you know, pretty good, I guess.

I don't know. Hang on. There's another wall broke out. Oh, no. What? In 1942, Jolong doesn't compete due to World War II restrictions. That was the only team who dropped out then.

And payments to players because of, you know, rationing. rationing were limited to three dollars per match Three dollars a match. What were they getting before that? More I played basketball and I have to pay three dollars to get into the stadium every week Yeah, what that feels that feels crazy. Yeah, that's what they're getting paid. That's been more than a coffee anyway paid. That's been more than a long coffee, anyway. It's $3. $3.

But this is 1942, so I imagine that inflation, that is... It's... I wonder how much it would be by today, St. To be honest, in 1940, so probably getting paid in pounds still. Yeah, so, yeah, that's probably... I may have grabbed that. No, that fact was straight off the AFL's website, so... Oh, it's probably a just... It's just strong for Australian dollars for the time. And the finals at that time were moved to Princess Park, just up the road from us here in

Carlton, because the MCG was used by the defence forces by landing jets on there or something. Oh, well, right. Maybe, no, it's probably not true, but they were using some just stamping out whatever the arm did and the jets gather jets. In 1943, Jolong again did not participate and the bottom team midway through the season round 11 was knocked out of the just told that don't worry about it anymore. Oh, I imagined it, but wasn't it cute? Oh, yeah. Look guys, don't worry about coming next week.

But if we could just grab you guys, so maybe go make some bullets or something. No, no, no. It's like, well, you're now you're not playing football. You could probably get over to the Western Front. How about that? Toodles. There we go.

All right, all right. Here's a gum. You know, during the war, you know, the saints' colours, this sort of is a bit Saint-Centri. That's fine, what's the black, white and red? Black, white and red, which... Or white and black. During the war was... I think this might have been the first war actually, it it was the same color as the German flag with German colors. So they changed the colors to black, yellow and red to match the Belgian ally colors.

Oh, very good. Finally I flagged Germany's colors and now black, red. And I think they copied copy the same stuff. I think so, absolutely. I think that's what happened. Big influence in Germany, the same. They're like, no, if you're going to change your colours, we'll just change them back, so we'll just copy you.

That could have been true. Anyway, let's move on from the war. There's probably more wars, but the later wars seem to affect the ball less, some reason. Well, that's because those were the the later wars seem to affect the ballast some reason. Well that's because those were the two biggest wars in history. And when did they get rid of conscription as well? Yeah that's right. Well conscription was the Vietnam.

They had a lottery. Did they? They did not want to win. Yeah. Yeah. I think my old man just missed it. Yeah they bred up birthdays. Oh yeah you're right.

Yeah. Yeah. Or on the radio and he's crazy. I've never met anybody else with my birthday too, so that would just be, at least if I got called up, I could be like, no, you too cool. August, I'm taking you with me. 23.

Oh, so close. 26. And Dave's two days later. August 28th, same year. Yes, with birthday buddies. Send your presents to... That's right. Kerov.

Kerov, Matt Stewart. We'll get so successful, I have to set up a PO box for all the gifts we're going to be getting. That's right. Send in your old German flags. Here's a couple more boring facts, 1970. Oh, thanks for profusing it. 1970 was a big year for German flags. Here's a couple more boring facts. 1970 was a big year for boring facts. Waverly Park hosted its first match where Jolong defeated Fitzroy.

Waverly Park, the VFL wanted to break their reliance on the MCG, so they decided in the 1950s to build their own super stadium and they bought a big chunk of farmland in Wavelinewa, very pretty close to you in Wavelinewa. They originally planned a 155,000 seat stadium. Sorry, what? That's like when a crazy dictator says, I'm building the biggest stadium in the world Kim drum you know That's one of the Kim Kim mill son the his dad to come to come on out and that yeah So that was the original plan and eventually it was built to be like 70 something thousand

So what is that a steady for ants? My god 70 thousand, that's, I say I don't play games or anything. No, no, no, no. That's got sold and knocked down, maybe 10, 10, 20 years ago, when they built the, I'm a dock on a stadium.

Well, I'm thinking about a dock on a stadium. And it's now, they've kept one stand and the football the football surface is still there the hawks train there this cafe is there now but we're all the rest of the stands where are all it's all housing developments so you could live in one of the shitty Waveley Park stands. So I don't actually just it's not the facade of a stand that's been done. No, it just looks like an oval now. It looks like a stadium, but if you go inside, there's like little doors and windows.

I mean skylights. I'm into that. That would be great. Yeah. Another boring fact from 1970, it was the first direct telecast of the Bramow Metal can. The Bramow Metal being the best player of the season. Best and fairest player of the season has voted you know who votes for it The umpires are a weird system people who don't necessarily shouldn't be focusing on who's playing well

If I was the umpire probably be like well, they could call me an asshole Give him the vote. Oh, why are they nice at umpires then if they're the ones who win tend to be Yeah, but anyway, um, it's all about that. I've said too much. That's going to disappear tomorrow. Your face is so serious. It's so scary. Oh my god. Oh my god. What am I done? It's all about that handshake at the end.

Thanks mate. Go on. Yeah. I've never closed. Look at that. The mate. Yeah. Yeah. Go on it. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a close look at that. The guys who were doing those, the other ones were in the metal at the end of the day. That was it was named after an administrator, Charles Bramlow, and it was inaugurated in the 1920s. So he was admitted so the Puroltum wills that started the whole game. Is there anything they've ever did?

No, nothing. Oh, I don't even tell you some more about wills. Yeah, yeah So he really he came back after you know, he invented the game and stuff Biggie just invented the biggest game in our country. Yeah was a dominant for Victorian cricket in That's right. He was also the best cricket player. This is all pre-Federation and pre-test cricket as well. Test matches did start and he was starting to be seen as a bit of a has been. He got called for throwing, he was a bowler. He was like, no, I do this with the pigs' bladder all the time.

He really went out of fashion in the cricket world. And it started getting a bit sad. While all that was happening, he went up North to Queensland for a while with his dad who was looking to start a new farm up North. And he- Doesn't sound like it's good for it. I was hoping he's gonna have a big comeback But it doesn't say oh is it not good to get malaria or so? I was gonna kill him now his in the biggest ever

Massacre of European settlers by indigenous Australians 18 men including his father were killed Which I like I know this is probably bad, but I feel no sympathy. I was like yeah, I kind of I know it wouldn't be good for me I can't it anyway, you know fair enough It's up but I know what was he gonna go hey, we're gonna take this land for our farm It all depends whether if he was being asked or not. Yeah, that's true apparently apparently Tom himself was Pretty friendly, but how do you like history is such a weird thing like it's all been written by European Setless so who knows and he was so he was one of the dead no Tom wasn't one of the dead his dad was and he

Obviously found that pretty traumatic. He struggled with that a lot and then at the age of 45 he stabbed a pair of scissors through his heart age of 45 he stabbed a pair of scissors through his heart. Oh! I shouldn't be happy but Perkins picked scissors. Did you pick what murder weapon? I didn't pick. Is that a tomboyless end of the study? You should have known a little quiz there.

Yeah. But tomboyless end of the study with the scissors. Through the heart. That is an amazing way to go. Because if you don't do it hard enough it will really hurt really hurt and you've lived I think I just like to think that it was him trying to create a new game yeah he that's because that's the thing famous for he also invented operation the bull yeah I'm just trying to try to remove that without touching the roots yeah unfortunately he got electrocuted

touching the sides what a wonder yes so that was pretty sad and he was kind of forgotten about for a long time and he's only really been thought of and brought up in a higher regard in the last 20 years people started talking about him again. That was the second dull fact from 1970 was the Brownland Metal Count and then the third one was the highest ever VFL AFL match attendance, 121,696. At the MCJ, the ground final between Carlton and Colingwood. Wow. Which was the famous ground final that Jezalenko

took that big mark. Jezalenko! The mark of the century. Yeah, that's on. And it was the game where Carlton came back to win after being down by 40 points because Ron Burrassi Coach some and said play on it all costs and he brought on this kid an unknown kid called His name was Ted Hopkins and he kicked five goals in the second half

Far out and he hardly played ever again. Did he just not want to ruin his record? No, you wouldn't want you? Yeah, maybe like just He just like adrenaline kicked him. He just went nuts And then he's like I can't that's great and did he? If you win a medal if you pick you you kick their most goals in the grand finals I don't even feel the best player you do Yeah, you get the norm Smith medal which is named after a legendary Melbourne coach. See what I say a legendary bird That may or may not have existed in the Himalayan mountains. The Norm Smith.

Cuckoo! I was about to say that. Yeah. The Norm. Love you, Norm. There's a story about Norm Smith. there's like the Norm Smith curse, that's why Melbourne haven't won a premiership since they sacked Norm Smith and that scene has like been a curse. Oh yeah, mystical, mystical norm. Speeding not cross-norm. They've been back later but yeah it was never the same and they've yeah they've sucked ever since and they're like they're the st.

Kielder of the modern era. Real batlers they have been been in the bottom six for the lot. I haven't made the finals for nine years or something Oh, dear. No, no, I'm done. I'm done. I'm in Yeah, so here's now I've got through those boring facts. He's an exciting fact from 1975 Clubs are permitted to adopt colored shorts for introduced color television coverage. Oh, isn't it funny how TV changes everything? Yeah, so before that was just white shorts only. It was black shorts for the home team, white shorts for the away team. That's a good fact. That's a great fact.

Is that a good fact? I think so, that's interesting. Short related facts. Yeah, more of those please. Oh, good. I don't know, I shouldn't even bring it up because I don't know the details and I'm hoping one of you does. But it's the same when they brought in, like, colour TV and the cricket, did they make them wear, like, pastel colours?

Yeah, that was very colourful. Well, that was very colourful. Yeah, well, that was very colourful. Yeah, well, that was very colourful. Yeah, well, that was very colourful. Yeah, well, that was very colourful. Yeah, well, that was very colourful. Yeah, well, that was very colourful. Yeah, well, that was very colourful. Yeah, well, that was very colourful. Yeah, and they played at the Waverly Park, that's where they first played, which is that 155, not quite thousand seats they need for me.

Well, how many showed up to that first game, not many at all? No, not many, not many. So they probably made the right decision in cutting that number down. Wow. Good boy, you just said before the highest attendance ever, it was 120,000, so there's still... Yeah, that's right that was because that's the MCJ absolutely jam packed and a lot of that was standing room I'm fairly sure that's illegal to have that many now. Is that a hundred? Less standing room so you can't squeeze many in so you get up to

Very very fat country that we have better better we will lean back in those days For McDonald's had a ride that's right second world war the rationing we were talking about before it was hard it was hard to get fat It was hard Okay, and and so at this stage we're still it's still the VFL it's still only Victorian teams so um I'm gonna start talking about how it's it's still the VFL, it's still only Victorian teams. So I'm going to start talking about how it's morphed into the AFL. I haven't mentioned it much, but the team South Melbourne who don't exist anymore. No, no, you can't mention them and I think you know who are they. They, between, they were, they won three premierships in the first, like, 50 years that are

moderately successful team. So three times as successful as your team and mighty. Yeah, and much less time. But between 45, 1945, 1981, they only played finals twice. So they were, that was they were the real battlers in that mid-century period. And by the end of that time, they're in financial strife, which you sort of expect.

And around the same time, the VFL were keen to start looking to broaden their horizons, go national. compete with the Adelaide. Yeah, or the South Australia National League. I wanted to actually decoy themselves the VFNL, or the South Australian. I wanted to call themselves the VFNL or something So in 1982 Against the will of a lot of South Melbourne supporters. They relocated all their home games to Sydney

Still called South Melbourne the following year So still called South Melbourne incident one year. Yeah, and then the following year they were called, just called the swans. And then the year after I became a Sydney swan. But that's some, that's a great transitioning there, isn't it? I bet they were telling everyone, now we'll always be South Melbourne, we'll always be South. We'll always be the swans, don't you worry, Sydney swans. So the board cut a deal, moving them to Sydney. And then there was a coup and the South Melbourne for South Melbourne

committee or whatever the group got voted in and took over the club but they weren't able to bring them back. It was sort of it was just too hard. They were in so much financial strife that they weren't able to do it. I don't know if you know this, do you know Dr. Jeffrey Edelstin? Yes. So they battled early years in Sydney, and in 1985, Dr. Jeffrey Edelstin bought the team outright. So he was a private owner of the club, which is pretty rare, nearly always.

AFL teams are owned by the members. And he sort of started bringing a bit of result dazzle to the club. A bit he did. Including. It's a very famous result. Very wealthy and very controversial sort of personal life kind of guy.

Yeah, he's currently on a series of celebrity apprentice apparently. So he's a pretty big deal. Keep. And so he brought Warwick Kappa to the club, who's Long-Long-Locks, and Todd White shorts made it in the biggest thing in the 40 field in the 1980s. So, before that, who was he playing for? I think that was his first time, so they brought him in from, like it is a junior.

And was it Edelston sort of splashing some cash? But was it his plan to be like, all right, we want you to be a blonde guy with short. I reckon that was part of it. It was a bit of an inch. So he used to drive a pink lamb, but help pink lamb again into the games and stuff. So they've been like, they're a rock and roll, no, capa.

Or a capa had a pink lamb again. Yeah. Now Edelston flew a helicopter to the camp. Oh, I've had it, I'm sorry. Of course he did. Sorry. I just remember my uncle played for them when they were still saffon over. Yeah, Edelston flew a helicopter to the camera. Oh, I'm sorry. Of course he did. Sorry. I just remember my uncle played for them when they were still saffron. Oh really? Yeah, that's cool. I don't have no further information about it. That was a nice little cook. Russell Cook. Russell Cook, I'm walking him up. Yeah. He never sat you down and gave you the talk and said, look you've got to go for the saffron.

No, I didn't. You just let me be. Good uncle. That is a good uncle. No offense, Matt. Yes, that was the ones they hit a lot of trouble again soon after that. They did pretty well in those years, but the money didn't last enough. Oh, was it not managed well?

The Pink Lambo did. He bought all these players, Pink Lambo Ghanies, and thought, why is the club broke? He also brought a player called Greg diesel Williams to the club. Oh Right into the inventor of the diesel engine. I just thought it was a two-time brown- their medalist But yeah also Related to the vendor of the diesel engine, which is not true. I don't know why they called him diesel I think he's just it was just like Just an in and under sort of no frills kind of player. I guess't know why they called him diesel. I think it was just like just an in and under sort of no frills kind of player

I guess that was why just kept going is that a thing that diesel engines Let's say yes, so that was the first time so now the VFL could start thinking oh we are so it's still called the VFL still called the VFL in Mid-90s in 97 in mid-1980s. In 1987, the Queensland Football League and the Western Australian Football League, the Waffle, both bought licenses to bring teams into the VFL as well. So the Brisbane Bears Football Club and West Coast Eagles Football Club came in the comp in 1987, still called the VFL. But Adelaide is holding out. Adelaide, yeah, I guess so. Because they, I mean, their league was still quite strong,

but the VFL got stronger and stronger, got more flushed with cash, and they started buying players from other states. So the VFL was starting to become the strongest comp in the league because they were buying the best players. A lot of that, Carlton pretty much bought a premiership in the mid-80s by buying a lot of the best players. A lot of that, Carlton pretty much bought a premiership in the mid 80s by buying a lot of the best players from Adelaide, including Steven Stix-Kernahan,

and John Doritich, and a few others. But anyway, that's boring for both stuff. In nice. A lot of people are football, just a liar, thinking, who are they? I can't believe you don't know, Steven Stix-Kernahan. Have you never seen the clip of a guy singing Stand By Your Man, went into a

Premiership Cup? No. Well, you got to YouTube that. That's Steven Six can't handle. Very good. So, so still called the VFL right through the 80s. In 1990 the VFL was finally renamed the AFL. Now you can start to probably realistically call it a national competition. You had the a team in the West Coast, you had a team up North in Queensland, you had a team in New South Wales in Sydney. And obviously, still the plenty of teams in Victoria. And then over the following years in 1991, the Adelaide Football Club came into the comp. Finally, they were like, oh, that was the...

You win. That's how the Australia... You're a league is much more national than we are. Initially, it was... Port Adelaide Football Club, probably the strongest ever football club in Australia. A bid for a license, but the sort of a Malgum Adelaide Cros, a brand new club made up of all of South Australia football. Also, so Fort Adelaide didn't get a go.

No, even though they have one like, they have one something like 40 or 50 per ms in the San Felt. They are like just a super dominant team, way more than any VFL teams have ever done. So the Adelaide Cros came in in 95, the three-manal dockers were brought in, so the second WA team in 1997 Fitzroy who were one of the original VFL clubs from back in 1897, they merged with the Brisbane Bears because they were just battling. Both of them were battling really merged with the Brisbane Bears, because they were just battling. Both of them were battling really, and became the Brisbane Lions.

Right on. Who only a few years later won three premiership specter backs, so that worked out pretty well for them. So really they came good. Yeah, they did come real good. Then Port Adelaide came in in 1997 as well, but they, because they were the Port Adelaide came in in 1997 as well, but they were the Port Adelaide Megapods because Collin would already have that, that's why they had to choose a different thing.

And they went with power. Yeah. Port power. Oh my, guys, there's still more animals than we have in here. I'm gonna tell you that there are 450,000 species of beetles in the world. No beetles? That's how many different types of beetles are. You're gonna beetles in the world. You know beetles?

That's how many different types of beetles are there. You're gonna beetles though, is it good? It's better than just a word. Power. Like that's a, I'd call that a pretty powerful word. I mean, seeing beetles, they're pretty powerful. The most best selling battle time named up to beetles. Also, yeah.

Isn't just like Pantepan, the rhinoceros beetle over its cold? The one that looks like a rhino is like one of the strongest animals in the world. That's right, a lot more powerful than power itself. Hmm. That should be the catch phrase for that beetle. Ah, the pot beetles. But, you know how many premierships the power of one? Ah, let's have a guess five.

Yeah. Well, they've been in the comp since 1997 No, geez, all right, they've won the same amount as St. Kilda and the bulls everyone just the one but one at one in 18 years rather than 118 yeah, um, goodly What so then so we're getting pretty close now to what the league looks like now in 97 also the Footscree renamed themselves as the Western board of What was the reason of that the reason was to go where the team for all of the Western suburbs Melbourne

All right, not just for the script so they were trying to just broaden their reach to to a whole you know segment of Which is probably smart. I think that your St. Kilders are just renown themselves. Australia. Australia is the Australia's team. And everyone, suddenly that everyone's team. And then people will get finally a final hit. They could be the Australian Saints, the Mary McIllips. Oh, very good. The Mary McIllllibs, we've got a officially canonized saint now. Very good.

There's a little fact for you, uh, just a good one. That's a good one. That go. Maybe just the McIllibs. The McIllibs? Then we call them the Maccars. Or the killers. Oh, yes!

There are the Maccullis. Because I'm just thinking the Mary McIllibs isn't a very intimidating name. The Mary's, come on Mary. Come on Mary. The bloody Mary. Oh, that's good. That is good.

I'm coming up. I'm going to take questions in a moment. But just the final couple of teams, you know the last two teams that have been admitted in the league in the last five years. The Gulf Coast sun. The Gulf Coast sun. And the GWS.

The GWS. Yeah. Yeah. So now the, what are they giants? The giants, yeah. So you've got, come on. Well played, sir. You got two teams in. No, no, I'm saying come on. Get a better name.

That is a line, man. Giant is a bad. No, just go with, what about something cool? Like an actual thing, like the Minotaur. Is there something? Like him, did you say an actual thing like a Minotaur? No, like an actual day I need to have it all life is this giant like whatever a bit Minotaur

colossal The GWS Minotaur. I don't mind it, but I think that the team seemed to love Eliteration. Yeah GWS giants Okay, great a West obviously not greater Western There's not a lot of them actually. Right, where are the glass? What a great Australian animal. Yeah, I don't mind the glass.

Or the greater western Sydney grapes. What are my favourite fruits? Good fruit. Real good fruit. Jeff, like my uncle. Do you want to go through some mascots? Yeah. so I mean you know what the crows were the lions Used to be the Brisbane bears fits Roy before they were the lions. They were the marones or the gorillas Gorillas is good. That is really good. Gorillas is good. The Carlton Blues were once known as the butchers

I think because their strip look like What's right make some sound like they could go on a killing spot? Yeah, I'm gonna butcher. Yeah, the butcher The great zero killer great the bombers used to be called the same old the same. Oh, I love that It's such a I don't understand it. I don't understand love, but I like it And then that was same old Bommas they'll bomb us because the Essin was near the yes and then Airport and during the war I think that was They had like good old prodigers bombing bombing

The Hawthorne Hawks they were originally the May blooms may blooms again not very scary no Hawks is But's a good choice. Yeah, yeah Hawthorn Hawks That's another clear iteration Melbourne demons obviously we said before red legs and fuchsias Do you know what this is more famous one? You know what the kangaroos are used to be known as and all sort of known as a bit North Melbourne. Oh, I thought that Blue the shin bonus North Melbourne, I thought that... No, it blew. The shin boners. SHIN boners! You're not just shin bone, but shin boners. Yeah, shin bone.

I really thought of that. Me either. You familiar with that term? That's kind of a famous one, I think. What, sorry, what term? I'm not familiar with the shin boner. Have you heard of a guy called Glen Archer? He was named the shin bona of the century.

That's the best fetish of a shin bona. What does that mean? You're giving me a shin bona. I'd never, it's so funny that I'd never connected... What's the bona out of that? And I was like, yeah, that's pretty funny. I don't know why Dave's laughing at it. But what is, what is, to be a be a shin bone, what does that mean?

Well, apparently the theory is that a lot of the players back in the day worked in abattoirs and they used to pull the meat from the shin bone, and that's where it came from. Oh, that instantly comes to mind, not shin bone. What were you guys thinking? Are you going to're the problem here. Bring back the shin bonus. Yeah, I was thinking about the twars and separating meat from shin bonus. That thing that we all do.

The tigers as far as I know, they were always called the tigers. And the story I read was because a fan of theirs used to sit in a tree outside of the MCG or outside of Punt Road and yelling go the Tigers from a tree and that was where the name came from. He didn't like AFL, he just had some wrong with him. Gary the Tigers, you're not new, I'm talking to the Tigers I can see over here. What they don't know is that even when they went training he was in that tree, the name is hate of him. St. Kilda were once known as the sea goals for a little while,

because they were, you know, beach side team, sort of made a bit of sense. But, it's probably make some sense as well. St. Kilda. I suppose they could be the Mekilips. The swans, uh, used to be known as the Bloods, or the Bloodstained Angels. Bloodstained? Oh, that is like a terrifying biker gang. Yeah.

Eagles were obviously pretty new, they've always been known as the Eagles. What about the Bulldogs? That is like a terrifying biker game. Yeah. Eagles were obviously pretty new. They've always been known as the Eagles. What about the bulldogs? You know what any of your other nicknames? Footscray. Is it other animals? No, I don't know.

It's hardly really know what these are. Oh, it's a good shin bonus. Shin bonus? One of them is just describing the fact they've got three colors, I think. They're called the tri colors bad isn't it the Imperials which I wonder is is that because they got the colors of the Union Jack maybe Oh and the Scragus oh good perfect Scragger the Scragus versus the shin bonus

Who will win shin Shinbon is always... Shinbon is going to be Scrag onto a Shinbon. It's a pretty good result. That is a good point. So yeah, I mean, there's so much I can talk about. I don't know if there's anyone else who wants to talk about it. There's international players coming in, like there's been Irish players. Yes, you are are a ship.

Now Americans are starting to have a crack. How are they getting drafted? How do they even hear you right now? Well they scout them. I have felt that Toronto expand internationally as well. So they have an international cup which is playing like teams like Ireland and Japan and the Australian. The Australian is destroyed.

Oh do they not play? No the Australian doesn't play. So they're all amateur teams. Pretty low quality games. teams like Ireland and Japan and um... This is just a strail, or do they not play? No, the strail doesn't play, so they're all amateur teams, pretty low quality games, but um... you know, it's just something they're trying to do. Each other tell me that I could represent Japan internationally in Australian football. I think you could. The one problem I can see with that is that you're not Japanese. Well, I would just have to learn about 10 phrases.

Kick it to me. Good one. And go. More my please. Why am I not being 100,000 yen? This is all. That's not very marginal. Yeah, you need to get good at conversion.

You'll have a calculator. Yeah, at all times. I think that's fair. Yeah, and then there's like things like You know different records and stuff and it's all kind of boring stuff Essin and is one the most premise ships Essin and in Carlton both with 16 But like I said most of them were so long ago in the modern era Hawthorne is I would say is definitely the most dominant well

That's why I moved to Hawthorne to be a winner. Yeah to be a winner. To be near the winners. To be near the winners. And actually I'm closer to the winners because I'd live near where I live. I don't know why they train near where I live. Yeah so I do have anything for me anything you want to. I knew none of that. No I didn't nothing. So we there's our national game. One, I'm not that into it. And two, I have no idea. And I think even the people that go out there every week, members that go to every single game, home and away, flying to state to watch them, have no idea where the game came from. Yeah. I said, oh, mate, yeah, you love food. Tom Wheels, right? Maybe who are you talking about? Yeah. I reckon that's probably true as well. It's funny to think

that just at that time, this one guy went over to England And that was how it happened otherwise you know if someone else came back and went Found this great game called rugby. Let's just play that which is more what happened in northern states Yeah, that was why anyway. This is a weird addendum at the end of the episode Well, maybe a throw forward to a future episode. Thank you very much. That was great Just how did you find it? Compelling. Compelling?

Yeah. I think we should go out and start our own league. Yeah, OK. Well, nice. Thank you very much for joining us. Matt, thank you for going on. I really did go on. I don't even want to look at how long that went.

You bloody enjoyed that. And I said it, I enjoyed that. I enjoyed it. I just, yeah, I feel like I had nothing to contribute because I know nothing about football But now I do while you will know something about something next week So believe just Perkins might be up next. Yeah, with a report on the next episode. Yeah, it's gonna be Top stuff don't tell us bit. Do you know what you have any ideas? I had an idea during this one

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