Two In The Think Tank - 20 - DISNEYLAND

Episode Date: March 9, 2016

Focusing mainly on the opening day of the original Disneyland, Matt talks Jess and Dave through what was a bit of a hot mess. Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Yeah, I'm really good thanks Dave. And that is a fact. That was a fact. It was a fun fact though. No, that was quite a double fact. It was a fact? It was a fun fact, though. No, that was quite a double fact. I'm having a good time, Jess. And so that wasn't fun for you. Well, hopefully at the end of the show we'll be a real bloody, a real piece of work. Are we going to be wrapping up the show? With fun facts?

Is that going to be a thing? Look, I got to the end of the report, and I'm like, I really like ending with fun facts and I tried I Squeeze their couple out You can't reinforce yeah, I'm just gonna change the name there just to remember that forced fun facts I still they may still be good, but they won't be as fun. No, and that is effects there no They know you per as fun. No, and that is effects. They're no... They're no perco fun fact dose. Oh, does anyone got your perco?

Yeah, lots of people. Really, a perco. Yeah, perky, JP. Perky. JP, the big bopper. Big bop. The big bop. The big bop.

So, Matt, it is your turn to present a report that will be ending in forced fun facts or you often start, and what does it say often? We say, I mean, all the time, we start with a question to get us on topic, Matt. What have we got? All right, guys, the question to you is, in your minds, what is the happiest place on earth?

The happiest. Bed. Yeah, beds pretty good. What about the couch, but I've got blue cheese on a biscuit. Oh, pretty good. Anyway, you've got blue cheese on a biscuit really. Yeah, exactly. Bed with blue cheese on a biscuit. What a combo.

Yeah, they can't top it, so that is my answer. If you could change the couch to capsule banana lounge and the blue cheese to a hard Cheddar Keep the biscuit But add yes and espresso martini and Change the setting to a

Greek island beach You're getting warmer, but that's why I Was that a clue about the topic? No, no, I was just having a daydream about my happy place. Have you ever been to that happy place? Or have you been to a Greek island? I've been to a Greek island. Yeah, part of that. Drunken espresso martini on a banana lounge.

No, I would have had some sort of, I think they called, they were called mumos. I was drinking a lot of momos on noonos or something So they're a cocktail called a moomoo Possibly Greek is that Greek for My heater. I didn't while I was there. I did not see or hear any people talking Greek talking Greek. It was just like it was no greek had no greek the greek are like super uh... touristy

so it's everyone is i believe this a hundred of them you could have gone to a non- yeah i went to all of them all of them no i went to to them and probably the two most touristy ones which were eos and centurrin

whoo anyway we are very on we've got but the question very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, yeah, Disneyland. Disneyland! We're doing Disneyland. Disneyland! Disneyland! And but in particular, really, it's the opening of Disneyland. Ooh, that's cool. Because I only read about this kind of recently because it was, yeah, I've really just started reading about it in the last couple of weeks and this one came out of the hat from a listener named Evan.

Oh, thank you. Thank you, Evan. Thank you, Evan. Evan, a big Disney fan, apparently. Yeah, a Disney Land fan. What was he trying to do? He didn't, he wasn't about the opening, it was about Disney Land, and I've sort of, I started doing the report about the opening,

and then, That's all you got. Well, there's five pages out of it. To get a microcosm of the Disney Land story. Yeah, and it was interesting, because I pulled out, I pulled out a double out of the Disney Land Story. Yeah, and it was interesting because I pulled out a double out of the hat because I physically cut them up and put them into things. So I had to do a redraw. Okay.

Well, was Disney Land one of the two? It was one of the two. Okay, so it makes sense then. Yeah, so we had another with Cecil, and he was so close. Oh, Cecil. Sorry, Cecil. Next time next time but we're talking Disneyland for Evan this week now. Have you been to Disneyland Math? I've never been. Jess. I have. I've been to Disneyland in California and Paris. Oh, Disneyland. I've been to Disneyland

California. Yeah, right. And I the one. And a harm, yeah. So I've never had any interesting going. I reckon after reading about it a bit, I'd like to go and see, because it's pretty amazing. I ended up, I'll talk about this in a bit, but they broadcast live on the opening day. Wow. And that is all on YouTube. It's like in an hour, it was an hour and a half special without ads on YouTube. It's like an hour and ten minutes.

Did you watch it? I watched it. Yeah, it's amazing. It was because it was opened in 1955. We didn't even have TV in Australia then. Came out the next year didn't it? Yeah, 56. We're coming up to the 60 year anniversary, is that making it? Yeah.

But yeah, so obviously Disneyland had it six years last year. But yeah, I was surprised and it was a pretty good broadcast. It was a multi-camera. Multi-camera, that 20-odd cameras there. Wow, that is... So they were crossing between three hosts. What? And it was just really quick cuts and stuff.

There was a few, because it was live as well. And there were a few little mock-ups but for the most part. Was it much like our live special for the Royal Melbourne show? It was a little bit like that. It was a little bit like. Really planned, very well well-repeated. Just for context, you guys did it. Oh man, it was so well-rehearse, the Disney one, our one. Less so. We talked about it when we're, as we were going to air. I haven't missed the first segment because I want to get a coffee. I had to do a live ad like tease ahead of the broadcast. And this is on our local... This is on community TV.

Station channel 31. Yeah and it's on YouTube if you want to watch it. It's a live at the show with Matt and Jess. Probably don't watch it. If you want to see two people who can hardly hear each other because of all the loud show noises trying to get through a live broadcast. Matt tells us things to fuck off. I don't think I was allowed to tell the fuck off. I think I bailed on that. I think you said something like, get out of here. You could probably see me changing the wording in the moment. It's great.

So yeah, I'm assuming it's a similar sort of broadcast for the live, similar quality. Yeah, but this one was like super well-carregrapting stuff. In the celebrities? In the Dodgum cars, not Dodgum cars, but there was this segment where there was some a car, like little cars, sort of like Dodgum cars, but it was like a little track. And Frank Sinatra was in one car followed by Sammy Davis Jr. What sort of, like chasing him down?

Yeah, that was really cool. And they were like that, a quick chat. So as he went by, they sort of put the microphone in Frank Sinatra's face. That's awesome. Like what the fuck? This is, that was really cool. Cool.

That's real cool. But yeah, I'll talk about it I'll let's let's go through it from the beginning from the beginning so Walt Disney Is the is obviously the man. It's funny that he's a real person because I just think of Disney is like a Massive conglomerate. Yeah, it's a conglomerate, but it was just this one guy Covered that on the Mary Poppins episode. You did too, yeah.

It's a bit of cross-er. But I, you know what I think is funny? It's like, you think of the word Disney as like it made up word, like a brand? And you're like, oh no, that was just somebody's name. Like, if I really worked hard, Perkins could be some kind of magical world. Yeah, it's like Perkins land.

Perkins land. Imagine. Like, it's like Perkins land Perkins land. Imagine it's like It's like Yamaha and I think Yamaha was family name Toyota different Ford Ford was yeah, and it's weird to think of them as because they're all weird names as well Like is for the weird name. I don't know any I don't know I know Matt Ford but I don't know anyone else.

Harrison Ford or I? But they're part of Matt. I'm not weird, that. Oh, I mean, weird. It's an unusual name. It's not that common. Is it? I feel like it'd be more common than monarchy.

All right, fair point. Thanks everyone. But how many Toyota's, you know, you're going to tell me, you know. I don't know anybody. You've got a mate called Gary Toyo, that's my neighbor. Thanks everyone. But how many Toyota's, you know, you're gonna tell me, you know, you're gonna make called Gary Toyota, one Nibba. I don't know, a single toyota. I don't know why you're talking with that weird accent just in my act out there, but. Very offensive, I'm sorry.

I know what, no one, no one's voice sounds the same when they hear it back, so that's actually what you sound like. So what I sound, wow. I don't know. It wasn't meant to be offensive, but, you know. I think the listener will struggle to differentiate between the two of you. I'm a fresh neighbor.

I'm a fresh neighbor. And what if she was English? Good day. I'm a little bit... I'm like, Gary. Uh, Toyota. I was like, Greek at the end. Oh boy. I've got three words into my report.

No, no, no. It's already gone off the rails. This is, there is, I think you can, out of the three of us, my reports are always the looser. You guys are so much, I'm like a loose guy and I'm happy to be here. You can't be tame. And I, well, I just, I'm happy to just go with the flow on things, but you're, you're a Dave, especially in Jess, so let's extend a happy to bring it back.

Yeah, happy to have a laugh, but at the same time, I've written a 4,000 word report. Yeah, I'm talking through it. Yeah, where is that? I'm usually just hungry, so I want to get through it so I can go. Usually bored with you. Where is that? I've got nowhere to be. Yeah, and you're like a toddler that's just like, oh, shiny thing. Yeah. So if we distract you with a

tangent, you go with the tangent and then we have to go, okay, Matt, back to the report. Yeah, that's why I've got, I do three paragraph reports and Dave does 25 page reports. That's right. Each also with many paragraphs because I'm quite good at layout. But you can hear the difference in the quality of reports, obviously. You definitely can. Dave's episodes are much better. Dave's episodes are very, very good. But this one, I'm pretty happy with this one. I found this story. Do you guys know much about the opening of...

A little bit. I think I heard that he... Oh, actually didn't he use some of the money from... No, that's wrong. He of the money from... No, if that's wrong. He used the money from something. Yes, he did. He used the money from something. Guess I'd warn you said you knew a bit about it. I'm like, what, how much could you really know?

But it turns out that's quite an extensive knowledge. It's a pretty impressive. Alright. Did you plan on doing this report? I guess, my last. Please go out with your father report? Okay, smile us. Please go out with your father report. Oh yeah, I think we finally got to a thing where

Jess has also written a report on the topic, which is awkward, because she seems to know so much about it. I don't know much at all, Matt. So I'm direct with Smaly, do you, Dave? You go on, Matt, and I'll jump in with my facts, which you'll inevitably forget because my reports are much better researched. Matt, I'm going to tell you to please do go on.

Sure, okay. So, we're going to tell you to do go fuck yourself. No, I think that's fair. So Walt Disney used to take his daughters to visit a local amusement park called Griffith Park in Los Angeles. And as his daughters enjoyed the rides, he would sit on a bench with the other parents watching him eating peanuts, apparently. And just thinking to himself,

this is great for them, but what about the parents? We've only got peanuts. Yeah, we only got peanuts and sitting. What a ride. What a time to be alive. I know, the parents, that was where the idea sort of came about. So it's quite a selfish idea, then, in a way, wasn't it? Yeah, it's funny.

It's like, so yeah, what's in there for the parents, you know, apart from watching your kids have a great time, you know, enjoying your kids having a good day. Come on, well, I want to have fun. Maybe try spending time with your children, talking to them, engaging with them engaging with them yeah yeah yeah put down the peanut and push a swing your prick so it was around that time that he started dreaming of building his own theme park and in his mind to be a new a new kind of theme park

where parents and their children could all enjoy it together. All have a good time. Rather than just, you know, the parents taking them there. Well, we've all obviously dreamt of building our own theme park, but only some of us have enough money. Yeah. And influence to build one. That's right.

And Walt Disney, before you have in comment, the multi-million. Wait, as a tenant, he probably didn't have... Oh, money, but... Yeah, so he had to get the money from something. Scandal, he did. He did, he had to get the money from something. Fact. He often received letters from fans asking if they could come and visit his studios in Burbank, California.

But he felt that there was nothing to see. Nothing to see there. It's like a factory in like sadness. Yeah, that's right. So it's like, I think you probably imagine this is a more fun place than it actually is in reality. And that started his idea of building a theme park adjacent to his studios in Burbank.

And originally it was going to be called Mickey Mouse Park. Oh, no. Lame. But I guess, you know, the, that was... Lame! But I guess, you know, the thing that's alright, it's his biggest character. Yeah, that's totally... What Mickey Mouse Park sounds like, Jess? Yes. Is that because...

Yeah, no, that's fair. Because it feels like the guy going, I want a park, we're all gonna have fun too. It's not too surprising that he ended up putting his own name in there. Yeah, you know what it sounds like? Well, yeah, so we wanted to get technical, but I thought that we'd try to keep this as a layman's podcast where everyone can enjoy it. Yeah, it does. It's like Disneyland.

He does these little eyebrows and points. Yeah, he does it. He loves a point, but it normally does a click with his point. There it is. Because I think that's good for the listeners will know whenever you're pointing as well even though you've said you said to us off air that your girlfriend hates it oh I click all the time I click in rhythms clicking at the butcher pound of steak thanks pound of steak yeah that right. That's very confusing for all. Especially me, I don't need steak.

That's the best. But yeah, so if you are out there and you hear it click, I am just to imagine me doing a point in raising my eyebrows slightly. Nice. Alright, please mount two go on, sorry. So Mickey Mouse Land World, wasn't it? Mickey Mouse Park. Park.

Park. See, as his plans developed, they got bigger and bigger in his mind. The plans soon outgrew the eight acres available at the Burbank side. So, obviously, that sounds big, but I think we'll find the real Disneyland's what? Hundreds of acres. Yes. Oh, no, not hundreds, but it's a lot bigger than eight anyway. Like eight, they would have had like a small Shetland pony farm

and a statue of Mickey, you know, that's about it. So, exactly. So, when his daughters were, he was taking them to the past. Diane, one of his daughters was called Diane. Diane, yes. I was gonna write that down and I'm like, no, it gives a fuck a bit. I get it. Diane, Disney.

Diane, Disney, DD, we all know her. I wonder if that's my mom. She's Diane. Do you think? Yeah, probably. How many days have you been? I'm directly related to Walt Disney. Through.

Oh my god, what a way to find out. You directly related, yeah, as in his grandson. It's what you was doing. Yeah, that's quite direct I sure I really should go see his little park you should go to the burbank take an interest in and grandpa powers the work I agree that is amazing yeah cool I wonder who my granddad was that I spent all that time with growing up. It's a weird.

Anyway, there's a story there. I'm gonna ask mom after this. I'll call her as soon as we... DIA! DIA! Why didn't you never tell me that... Your father was Walt Disney? Walt Disney. That feels like that would have come up.

Where will that millions of dollars? Yeah, this is fucked, mom. How much? What else are you hiding? How am I the only one of the podcasts that hasn't been to Disneyland, mom? Answer me that. This is BS.

Diane. Getting for free. So, it's two for one. So it was taken as daughters in the, I think, late 30s, in the 40s, I think it was around those times when it was quite old. And the park didn't start until the 50s, 55s. So there was a bit of a time and the delay, supposedly, was things like the Second World War happened. Selfish. Stuff like that. We're trying to build a fucking theme park and you have to go and have a war. Yeah, it's Birmingham.

You're gonna do that a lot. We can tell him you catchphrase. What happened all the way out of it? So yeah, because of things like that, the idea was put on the back burner. But in the 1950s, it was time. It was time to begin. What's time to shine? Yeah. First they had to find a location and

He had a he had a small checklist and he got a company on to find him this place The checklist was that it had to be at least a hundred acres and also Located within a freeway drive of LA. So easy access by road. Yep. A site was found. It was a 160 acre orange orchard in Anaheim, California. Oh, what? We already said and you guys both been there.

Yeah, thanks. But thanks for making that sound like you are interested in the point. The park cost $17 million. What? Which was a- In 55. In 55. was a, was in 55. In 55.

Heaps of money in 55. And that was an amount of money that Walt didn't have. Oh, we did. I mean, it was a rich and famous guy. So we had money, but he just didn't have that kind of crazy money. So he looked to investors, but that proved difficult as investors.

Couldn't see how the project would return a profit. Is this the story where, because you always hear that Walt went to like 300 different banks or something, but was that for the studios or like his animation work or the actual filmmaking or was it to build the park? That did happen for the park, he's shopped it around a lot of people and just couldn't get people interested. But eventually he made a deal with the ABC television network and they agreed that they would invest in the park as long as he agreed to produce a show for their network. And he was up for that deal. The show he made was called Disneyland and the series opened with Walt Disney describing the coming attractions of the Disney Land theme park,

followed by previews from upcoming films, some live action shows, and behind the scene footage of animators working and stuff for that. That feels like a really sweet deal for him. Yeah, it's like, all right, we'll make an ad on one of the, on one of the main networks, TV networks, or at the time it was probably one of the only TV networks. That seems like a sweet deal. Advertises his business, and it's like a small, cheaply made documentary, and they've had to invest in multi-million.

Well, I think they only invested about half a million, but because of their backing, he was able to go to the banks to borrow. And so the show drew a big audience as well, so it was good for everyone. But yeah, because of their backing, he was able to borrow a much larger amount of money from the Bank of America. And he also borrowed against his life insurance.

So he was up to his eyeballs basically. Well, he really, really, really, really, really went for it. Roll the dice. So yeah. How did it feel when it all went to shit? Yeah, and a lot of people thought it was like this is a ridiculous dream. At the time it seemed pretty crazy. With theme parks like this, even a thing, or was he sort of the first?

There were theme parks, and he went around the world checking him out to do research. There were plenty around, but this was- Not to the scale, but- Not to the scale, and also Yeah, this was a bit different. It was sort of supposedly the first one that you know I've all of the rides are about stories Yeah, and that was a bit different normally. It was just like this thing goes around and around Yeah, some places have like a 100 year old wooden roller coaster and stuff. Yeah his dad supposedly went to

All worked at one of his world fairs I think it was in Chicago in the late 1800s and that had the first fairs wheel Potentially that's where he got some of the inspiration from as well here in the stores from his old man But in 1952 the name of the plan park had changed from Mickey Mouse Park park had changed from Mickey Mouse park to Disneyland Disney Landia. Oh no he's serious. I don't like that either. Disneylandia. Can't over it. Wow that's yeah I suppose you go. Well like Disneylandia makes a bit more sense than Disney Landia. Disneylandia. It's like too much stuff. Yeah. Disney. What a Disney yeah. No good. I don't think it works at all but apparently he was talked out of that by some people at the ABC

And by the time that the work on the site commenced two years later So took two years to get all the money and everything ready. Yeah, I mean, yeah, even longer than that But yeah, that was that was the like from buying the pointy end yet And the Disneyland Disney land name had been settled upon by then in July longer than that but yeah that was the like from buying the pointy end yeah and the Disney land Disney land name had been settled upon by then in July 1954 around almost exactly a year before the opening date which was pretty much locked in yeah that's when they started constructing the site and with 12 months on the clock 12 months on the clock that's like worse than the Brazil Olympics yeah and basically it was not enough time.

Really? Yeah. But have they started selling tickets and advertising the TV show and stuff? I think the TV show was, yeah, it was, so it was, it was what a great way to build up hype for something though, having a TV, a successful TV show

that was kind of all about it. Yeah, awesome. Um, so we skip ahead. They're obviously about it. Yeah, awesome. So we skip ahead, obviously. This building building building. There's a few time lapse videos online, which you can see of things going out, which is kind of cool. And did they build a lot of the starters that expanded a lot? Well, the site hasn't changed much.

Over the years, they built over the original car park. So it has expanded a fair bit, but they started out with a pretty big thing. There were the four, you know, the four original sort of sections. It was tomorrow land, frontier land, adventure land, and fantasy land. And I think, I mean, I don't know, like Disneyland is a thing that I just don't know

anything about, but I think there's new ones of those now. You've been there. Is it still, are those four things still existing? Ah, it is. Yeah, it's still those four in Paris. It's just the most recent one I went to. I went to Anaheim when I was eight.

Right. It was a long time ago. Oh my God. I also went in 1998. Get out! You said 10th but 98 I was there. You guys are the same person. At some point you split off from each other

I'm trying to think I wouldn't be able to lock down a time. I'll have to ask my parents. Yeah, that's so weird I didn't know yet. Did you go to the Indiana Jones ride my family went on that about 15 times We thought it was so good I think so one of that's still there probably when the ET ride and Sit in the fronter and there's a you're on bikes and ET was in the basket on my bike and I was like I've got the ET bike. So the the ET ride ride was just a bike and what you rode around there. See how good their marketing isn't just just still talking about it. I've never actually been to Disney

then my parents just gave me a bike when I was eight. I look just Disneyland. I put an alien mask on a cabbage-bucked kid. Chuck's in the front. They didn't even get an ET doll. I'm not gonna count on Annie. Come on, Annie P. Annie P. All right, so let's skip ahead through that year

to opening day, because this is what I want to talk about mainly. So how many of them are they freaking out about it? Yeah, there's a bit of panic leading up to the day because this is what I want to talk about mainly. So how many of them are they freaking out about it? Yeah, there's a bit of panic leading up to the day. They're rushing like things are being painted on the morning. Oh man, that's great. Yeah, but let's go through other day. The opening day was actually the day before the public. The day before which is what is now seen as the official opening That's where all their anniversaries of stuff. That's when the broadcast was on ABC

But it was an invite only day. Oh exclusive. I've read two numbers either 6,000 or 12,000 That's a lot of invites invites were sent out For opening day and they were given if there were staggered times. So sort of give it a soft start. So you can morning afternoon type thing? Yeah exactly and and that was also meant to you know because it was everyone working there was their first day everyone was learning how to make popcorn and ferrofloss. Yeah exactly how the rides worked and you know surely the rides must have had some a lot of testing though right? Yeah, sort of some testing for sure. What about um so this six or twelve thousand? Either way it's a lot of people are they VIPs or friends of the workers?

It's a bit of a mix you've got um it was it was kind of a press day so there's a lot of members of the press there were celebrities like Frank Sinatra and so that dignitaries, sponsors like representative of some of the sponsors. Pepsi was a big sponsor. There they exclusive right to the soda pop, whatever they call it in America. Can some of the construction workers it's cool? And I mean they were there anyway still finishing it. So you're invited, I'm painting a fence. Yeah When you're done with the fence you should ever go this ride I'm on over a hot dog I've got a paint that hot dog man And that he sees on eating hot dog

Smash the hand out of Frank's and out of hand The Truman of the Board. Frank, so that like a hot dog. Frankin' Fertz and Hattron. That's where I got the nickname. Of course, his actual name is Gary. Gary Sinatra. For that day, yeah, they started going in Frank Sinatra. Yeah, interesting.

And so those 6,000 to 12,000 people,'s say 6,000 because I saw that more 6,000 people actually kind of ballooned out back then the the tickets which are the invites for the tickets it was believe it or not pre barcodes and you know holograms and those sort of things you see on Ticket Seas there. So they were pretty easily forged, meaning that around 22,000 extra people rocked up. Oh no, what did that sound just right? One ticket signed Walt Disney. It's made, I just saw you write that out in front of me. It says Walt Disney. Yeah, I was like, come on in. Yeah, I'm not right, mate. Can I give you that? So, there's sort of smallish start, ended up just becoming a crazy amount bigger than they wanted to be. Why more people than they were ready to handle? So, I imagine, you know how you said at the start, they wanted to be small because people

are learning their job. The people that need to learn their job are probably the ticketing staff from this softest they're not doing so well. That's it but the I think the forgeries were very good like you couldn't tell so it's sort of hard you just had to let them in and people who bought them were bought buying them well they didn't probably didn't realize either. So some people were forging them and then selling them rather than everyone forging their own ticket. Oh cool, $5 ticket, sure. I'll come here.

Some sweet entrepreneurial skills being learnt there. Also apparently there was a guy, another entrepreneur who had a ladder and he was charging a couple of bucks for people to climb over using his ladder to get in. So they were, how long did that last before security notices? Well, they had other shit to do with you. Yeah, 22,000 other people. That's great. So the huge crowd meant that arriving times kind of went out the window.

Everyone wanted to get there early anyway. So it was just... the cues were crazy. Inside the park for rides and everything, but also outside the park just to get in. And there was a seven mile traffic jam on the center and a freeway. Seven miles. Yeah, just a car park on the freeway. And supposedly that,

the traffic in Southern California is awful, but apparently even for their standards, it was like real bad. Brutal. Wow. That this thing, I don't exactly get how this happened, but I wrote it a few times. The celebrity guests were scheduled to arrive every two hours, but somehow because of the

traffic it ended up that they all got there at the same time. Well I mid-night. Six hours too late. Marilyn Monroe steps out of the car. Oh god. Classic Marilyn. I was reading the lists of the celebrities. For the most part, I was like,

I have no idea who any of these people are. Because of the 60 years ago. Yeah. But you can't remember. But there's no like- It was a fever wasn't there or. Weird, yeah. JT.

JTT. Juzzi T. Oh, JTT. He was there. Jonathan Taylor Thomas, who's- Of course he was. Who's representing? He was a big Disney movie guy, wasn't he? He was Simba in the Lion King. He was young Simba. He was young Simba.

Fact. Do you know who JTT is? Yes, I do. I'm the same age as Dave. Jonathan Taylor Thomas from Home Improvement of your Young Gunners. Oh, Randy. Oh, is he Randy or Brad? Randy. Brad was the, he was the like the jerk. I I didn't like what a 90's name Brad. Brad. Brad. But Randy happy with Randy. What was the little brother's name? There was a, there was three of them. Toby? No. Tim. Junior. Yeah. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. So, so do you remember any other celebrities apart from Sammy Davis and Frank Sinatra. They were the only notice from the broadcasts. Yeah, they were the only,

like the hosts were naming people all over the place. I'm like, no idea that is a lot of them were governors and stuff, you know, politicians. I'm sure at the time it was like, whoa! Yeah, I think it was, it was a big deal. Like if you've got Frank Sinatra just going around on a little car then yeah Who are the big guys going around on the the saucepins or whatever saucepins?

Yeah, the cups Tea cups tea cups. I was going cups of sauce. Are they saucepins? Yeah, you did I can eat it I'm so dumb What a go-a-go, man, not a source of... Because of the huge crowd, the restaurants in Kiosk were well and truly understocked, and a lot of them ran out of food and drink pretty quickly. Oh shit. So so many people, huge lines to get food and...

It sounds like a badly run music festival. Yeah. The port of Luzwa overflowing. Yeah. There was no food, no shade, no sunscreen. But of course the first day went badly. You know, like as if it was going to be a smooth sailing and nobody had to line up for anything ever. Oh, look, I agree that there were probably,

there was always going to be some issues. There's always seating issues. But this is like, I mean, I've only just started the list of things. So it was a pretty amazing amount of things. A lot of it was bad luck as well. So for instance, the day was unusually hot, hitting over 100 degrees Fahrenheit, which is around, it hit around 38 degrees Celsius, which was hotter than they were used to, certainly back then, you know. Global warming. Global warming now, I mean, it's always 38 degrees, but around that time and place, that

was unusual, or in a real hot spell, but heat wave. Heat wave. Nice. Yeah, just a double quick. That was good. Well, but heat wave mates Yeah, just double quick You are the same So yeah, you're in a rush to get the park ready the asphalt was only poured for Main Street USA I saw some things saying that morning which can't be true I heard other people say that a day or so before

Just still not that much. So pretty fresh. Were they putting it? Main Street. So it's the main... Main Street USA. Were they do the parade since then? And because of the crazy heat... Oh, those start melting. It started melting and turning into a sticky tar which was swallowing ladies high heel shoes. So they're just getting stuck in there. Well, which apparently high heels that's just what people wore back then. Yeah, particularly ladies. But that's what people wore out to the theme parks. It seems amazing. So they heels dresses.

Watching the footage is like people were dressed up like they were going to, you know, a dinner party or something. Some sort of formal event. Everyone would be like, They did dress up more back then though. Yeah. Like when I went to Disneyland, maybe we should put up photos of ourselves

at Disneyland too. Oh, I'll find them. I'll be with you guys. I've got one of me, I'm in shorts and sneakers because I mean business that day. Like I've got places to be people. Yeah, you've got like a- In my comfy clothes.

Wearing a nappy, no talks to me. My hair is up. We'll not get tangled in the wind on the rides. Got a hat for Sunsmart protection. Yep. You got to be smart. You got to be. Imagine if we were there on the same day.

Just imagine it. Oh man. Oh man. Oh, if it was photos from the right. Yeah, look through our photos of like, you know, me and my mom standing in front of the castle and then you're just in the background. Do you say that? We're throwing a tantrum in the background.

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It's not sound like a good day. I guess it's especially bad for Disney Land because they're making no money, because no one's paid, but it's also good because people can't really complain, can they, because they're shoes are being swallowed. But I don't know if you've come across any journalists in the past reviewing a thing? Oh yeah, I think probably very able to complain. And that they would be pretty savage about it actually.

And also, so I'm thinking in terms of being one of the people visiting the park, I'd be a little bit deterred because it would be so food and my feet are sinking and it's a bit shit. And also as well, this is not going well at all. Well, the funny thing is Walt was totally unaware of all the issues. Because he was a big part of the live broadcast. Apparently you didn't find out too much later that it was a disaster. Well, he was thinking, guys, that was great.

How come is that? I mean, if you watch the broadcast, it was, it all went pretty smoothly. It looks pretty, to me it was amazing, but amazing is not the right word. You didn't like them what? I was surprised how smooth it all went. Even there were a few issues which I'll talk about

even on the broadcast, but they were relatively minor, or actually one of them is a bit fucked but anyway. Look at that. Talk about it in a sec. Okay so we've got overcrowded food stalls. Traffic jam. Traffic jam.

Super hot. People's good Sunday best of being destroyed by sweat. On top of all those things, California had been going through a plumber strike around that time. Oh God. Which ended only a day or so before. I mean, I've read this in different ways. Some say that the strike went through out, but I'm pretty sure it ended just before and Walt Disney. So Walt got his Timmer Plummers back. And he was given the option of either having working toilets in time for the opening

or working drinking fountains. And obviously for the working toilets. Yeah, Ryan. And that's what he did. Oh, thank God. I was going to say, well, please, don't choose the drinking fountain. But I meant that there was no drinking fountain there on a 38 degree day Yeah, and they're running out of drinks and food and it's a line to get any. Oh no, so there's no

no Water in the heat so people get into a dragon Also another one there was a gas leak in fantasy land. That makes me love especially because on those Simpsons, they have itchy and scratchy land, a parody of Disney land, because they like to kill each other. One of them is called Searing Gas Pain Land, one of the areas. Unnecessary surgery land, there's another one. But Searing Gas Pain Land, so that's a...

Yeah, based on a true story. So that decal is the big sections of the park different times. I love it because fantasy land and there's a gas lake. He'd probably... Everyone's f- every year. It's tripping. It would make the, you know, the fantastical ride. Even more fantastical. fantastical Rides seem even more fantastical. Yeah And during so during all this there was the live broadcasts are talking about on ABC TV Which I watched last night and I reckon you should flick through it the broadcast was hosted by some Walt Hollywood mates

So I guess these guys were big stars at the time, but I've only heard of one of them art link letter was the main host Oh, ah. It was great. He was really good. He worked under pressure. It's so good. Did you remind you of a young you? Yeah, it was from Channel 31.

It was a much younger young me at the show. Bob Cummings and also a man named Ronnie Reagan, who went under the company. To be future president of the other days of America. Ronald Reagan, which is kind of cool. Very cool. Yeah, he was one of the co-workers. And like, over to you, Ronnie, if I was running in America.

And what was he running? It was fun, you know. It was good, pretty good at, he was running a bow tie, sort of tuxedo, get up, on a 38 degree day. That's how professional he is. Yeah. Wow. But I found it pretty fun. That's cool, that's really day. That's how professional he is. Wow. But I found it pretty fun. That's cool. That's really cool. Yeah, that one was found quite interesting. The broadcast had some issues. At one point, Link Letter

sort of late in the broadcast link letter crossed the coverage over to Cumming, so they were sort of separate places in the park and they were throwing each other. And they were saying stuff like when they got the throw and it was pretty clear that no idea what was being thrown from they were just like thanks so much for that Bob really well explained they just really vague stuff like oh yeah you took that through beautifully like almost not worth saying. Yeah. Thanks, Bob.

Love your work. Yeah. But Link led across the coverage over the Cummings, who wasn't ready. He was on a pirate ship and he wasn't ready. Are you kidding? So he was just like, yay! And then he was, thank you for that runny. And it wasn't even a shot anywhere near him.

He was sort of on a long lands and he sort of figured out what was going on and then he started chatting to, he had some sort of celebrity that I'd never heard of. He was Chandu briefly. It was, he was a kid actor in Treasure Island or something and he'd thrown up a bit. And then he tried to throw back to Link Letter,

but found that Link Letter was searching for his mark. And then so, um, coming started. What do you mean just looking for it? Yeah, it was sort of running around and Cummings was sort of going, he's like, I think he can't find his mark. And he sort of started commentating. Oh, he's left it in the haunted house. He's got to run back.

Um, which, you know, I mean, there's a fairly minor thing and that, that were the kind of things that was like, oh, that's, that's pretty, handle pretty, pretty professionally, just sort of not going on. Oh, shit, what do I do? Yeah. And just send it into a bit of a, what I imagine in the 50s, some of them like, I'm like, jeez, look at them, just free bowl on it. Yeah, well, it's amazing.

Do they have like earpieces? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how the technology was back then. They must have, but yeah, I would, I, I was surprised any of this, I, I, I, I, I, I, well, it's amazing. Do they have like earpieces? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how the technology was back then. They must have, but yeah, I would, I was surprised any of this stuff was possible. Why TV? In the 50s. I can't believe anything existed back then.

I just saw people were sitting around in barns. Pirate ships. Yeah, pirate ships. I don't know. They're amazing. Food. That food. They have food.

Well, not much, but some. I couldn't, I could not. That food. Well not much but some I couldn't I could not but no drinking bounce yeah yeah surprise I read this one but I couldn't I couldn't spot it watching it back but apparently in front of you at one point, the camera's caught Cummings making out with a dancer. One of the hosts. What? Eekinink? Did he? No, I mean, no, I'm not kidding.

But could you find it? I couldn't find a bit of, yeah, it's a bit grainy, but a bunch of different sources noted that. Which I was like, oh, he was the younger, I think he would have been the youngest one of the three and it's like, oh, he was the young, I think he would have been the youngest one of the three and it's like, oh, he's having a Seven a crazy time at Disneyland. You know, it's a place where adults and children can have fun I guess, but that's not like the Disney wholesome image. So right? Yeah, that's what I thought so I read that before watching it

So I was I was kind of looking for looking for watching it. So every time coming to the sun just watching him But really Doug when I when I read it I assumed that You know, Cummings would have been a single guy sort of thing. So I was surprised when early on in the coverage that Cummings introduced us to his wife and kids. They're there. They're there. They're there. And is his wife dancing at all?

No, she looked like she was not in any sort of dancing attire. Oh dear. But I didn't, I couldn't find anything about the full out from that. It feels like that is... No good. No, not cool. Yeah. For an hour of your life, you know there's a possibility of you being on live TV. Well, would you make out with anyone? Yeah, just was not in a coming this was work from then on. That's the reason Matt and I did not make out on that TV. Because the in you that was live. Yeah, both of our wives and kids were like, I think.

I'm so alive. So yeah, overall though, as I've said, I thought the broadcast was pretty impressive. I watching it, I was surprised, and it's like, it couldn't have been that hot. No one looked like they were There are any sort of most people wearing jackets. Yeah, everyone's sort of just up. Yeah, totally. Wow. So the Some of the press at the time

This was from the associated press said probably for the first time in his career Disney disappointed thousands of youngsters And for years to come Disneyland workers referred to opening day as Black Sunday. Well, during Walt's lifetime, they didn't count it as an official day of Disneyland. Obviously, the official opening was always seen as the day after, but now, after he died. And they've sort of moved on from that. They see that as the opening day.

So they have their anniversary on the, whatever day. I wonder how they recovered, so to open again the next day, like just restocking all the food, trying to get the taps working. Yeah, it would be hard, people working on that. But at the same time, in my mind,

what I'm thinking is, no one has ever been to a proper theme park before. Do they know how good it usually, do you know what I mean? Like that might be like, sure, the asphalt is melting and there's lines for food, but maybe that's, this is just the normal, don't I mean? Let's know nothing to compare it to. Yeah.

In your mind, no one's ever been to a massive theme park before. So it still probably seems pretty cool. Yeah. You can comparison to your boring 1955 life. And I mean, I've heard of, I listened to a few interviews with people who were there, including there was one guy who was just a kid at the time and he's like, it's hard to even explain how amazing it was. Yeah, like it would be amazing, right?

Yeah. It's like, another kid at the time was saying they remember seeing Walt Disney there because his plan was to greet a lot of the people at the gates. 22,000. But yeah, that wasn't possible. But someone saw him and he was just looking. It was like, they said,

oh, I've seen you on the TV. And then, and then he just looked like a giant. Now I just mesmerized by this crazy man. I would be weird, like imagine, well, I'm still like, what is he, was a real person? Yeah. Weird. He, another thing that happened during the broadcast

was he started as they opened each part of the park. He'd read out this little poem sort of thing, a little blurb. And he, one of the ones he was reading out and someone's signaled off camera and he's like, oh, okay, not, thinking they were saying we're not on air yet. And then he started against that. Like, there were little blips like- How far into it was he? It was like a- It was, it was pretty page- epic, it would have been, you know, 10 seconds in or something.

It was sort of, it was a bit awkward, but luckily, I mean, if it was me, I would have- Oh, fuck. I made it a wall just like, oh this is fucked. Cancel it, tear it down. The banks were right. He just goes out the bank and kills himself. And that was the last we ever heard of all this, didn't he? He's just 10 seconds in. Somebody like shooted away a fly and he took a look.

Oh, my problem is fucked, is it? Yeah. But you're all fired. You're all fired. You're all fired. You're all fired. You're all fired. Instead of personally greeting people, you just personally fires everyone in the park.

Oh, that's how long. That's how long. Yeah, classic wall behavior. Wait, what about the bizarre room university? What about the tell you Matt that we haven't been recording this whole time, we have to start your report again. Oh, this is bullshit! You can get fucked! You Jess Perkins can fuck off!

That's a massive pressure of Walt Disney, if you still... When Walt Disney told me Jess Per Berkins, to fuck off. Yeah, remember it well. But yeah, interestingly, guests from all over the world seemed to love it, and as we all know, the park became a major success. Sure did. 90 days later, the 1 millionth guest entered the town so a million of the

three months. Yeah, so that is great. There's over 10,000 people a day. If it's open seven days, wait, I don't know if it was. Yeah, well it is now. It's pretty, that's a pretty crazy number. So yeah. A million people in three months.

Why did you make a million people in three months. Why did you make a million dollars in three months? But that's the thing. So he was so far in debt, but all the debts were paid off within a really quick amount of time. Wow. And yeah, there's just a sweet investment. And things like, so he had to sell a lot of things off,

like a lot of the shops inside were outside businesses Just to be able to make make it work Eventually he took all them over so did they're all Disney shops now right and that was I mean a couple within a couple of years He was able to sort of buy everything back People were disappointed with some things like apart from all those issues. There were also a lot of the rides weren't ready. Like they should have been. Tomorrowland was hardly ready at all.

Well, it's called Tomorrowland. That's right. Look, it's not called todayland. Fuck heads. I'm sorry, children. I always get that confused. Come back tomorrow. Yeah, fuck heads. I was just to know an interview, one of those one guy who worked there at the day and he's just like, it was such a stressful day.

And the interviewer was like, yeah, I had to fill the end of the day and he's like, I'll tell you like this. I got really drunk Does that answer your question? It was a tough day at work. I went out for an alcoholic beverage a little unusual. I know Nobody else does that when they're with stress. That's why we did it in 1955. It was a different time. What the... I think if you guys are ready, I'm gonna get on with my new segment called Forced Fun Fact. I like it, I like it already.

I just got a few here. Here we go. I'm excited, I haven't been this excited since 1998 when I went to Disneyland. Anyone's with numbers, you know, they're not fun. No, they could be. It's just a fact of the last one. So in 1955, as I was saying, the latter half part of the year, because it was only open

for part of the year, they had about, someone around a million visitors. Then that, the last number I saw was 2014. The number was up to 17 million in the year. Wow. Which is. Please give us 17 million per year. Yeah. Wow.

That's crazy. Up the number up to recently through the park overall they've had more than 750 million visitors. Oh, in the 60 years. Yeah. Wow. That seems like a lot of it. But there's also got to be a few repeats, you know. It's funny what I, I know about numbers is not a lot right. So I read it and the first way I read it was the most recent year was 650 million.

I'm like, yeah, that's that's really good. I mean like, oh no, that's forever. Also a lot, I guess I have no idea. I mean, but you're thinking, that's forever. Also a lot, I guess I have no idea. I mean, it's a good man. Well, you were thinking that they could have two million people come in a day. Yeah. I was like, wow, yeah, great. Yeah, like one quarter.

That's a good business, I imagine. Like as long as overheads aren't too crazy, I reckon they're making a profit with 650 million people any year. Imagine having the car bug would have to be for two million people to come a day. Really big, I imagine maybe, you know, say three or four people per car. Some people in buses. What is that like seven million car parks? You get a mini van.

That's not one million. We're gonna know. You get a mini van. Mini vans. All right, well, I probably makes it, well well let's say that makes it 15 million car parks. Easy. Jeez Dave, drive a car. Is that the, is that kind of the right math to?

20 million car parks, is that right? That's if everyone drives themselves. Everyone drives 10 cars. Well, it's the United States of America. Oh yeah, that's the age of excess. So let's say I'd do it. I drive a car to Disneyland. I walk back to my hotel and drive and I'll be car.

Repeat 10 times. Yeah. It's the only way I live. And the hotel's quite a well away. It's worth it. I've never been in the ride. You know what? Fuck them.

I'm gonna give a shit. Yeah. They want to build. I leave those cars there as well. They're garbage for me. the ride. Fuck them. I'm gonna give a shit. Yeah. They want to build... I'll leave those cows there as well. They're garbage for me. I don't need them. I have another two cows the next day. If they build a hundred milling space car park,

someone's gonna use it. Yeah. Facts. And that's a fact. And that's a fact. Take it to the bank. So we're talking about the different areas of the park. Tomorrow Land, which was pretty much underdone, was initially based on the future time of

1986. What a world. A magic time. A couple of the predictions that they'd made. And it was, they said, it wasn't just like, you know, this wasn't fantasy land. This was tomorrow land where, and they had scientists and futurists mapping out what they how they actually saw 1986 to be which is we know is always some things they get right some people a lot of it is just like yeah what do they what do they predict a couple of predictions were that a trip to the moon will be in every day thing in 30 years yeah wow I haven't haven't been since the since the 70s yeah no one's been no one's been every day do we even know it's still there yeah I've no idea no proof

I mean you can I can't think of a way of finding it I just can't we don't you go there and no one has and if they what they're not going there's probably not there yeah there's a reason for this thing you Ah, you reckon? You reckon it goes all the way to the top? Yeah. All the way to the top of that bank. Yeah. Where you cashed a fact before.

The other one, which, so the, that's a pretty grand idea. It's amazing. It's the moon every day. 30 years later, no, that's another thing. The, the other one I liked, which is probably slightly less grand, was that there'd be a clock that could show the time anywhere in the world. At the same time with like hundred and hundreds of seconds minutes and

now a hands. Yeah just this really. You just can't read it at all. But I think it's seven o'clock somewhere. They built one and it was one of the the big the big Statue thing and in that Area of the park was this clock that could show the time and and it was yeah a huge thing that was super unnecessary Why anyone would need to know that anyway? Yeah So I was yeah, I was getting distracted by saving Michael ladies Don't know funny, but we see does

Look at what I was saying there show It's a late night show, so we should all be able to go yes Okay, so I reckon that was a a funnish fact even if it was a little forced. No, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. This one to me is amazing. I love this fact so much. A couple of weeks, this isn't strictly about the opening, there's a couple of weeks after the opening, a tiger and a panther in a circus parade broke loose and staged a furious death struggle on Main Street, you know what I say. That is amazing. Well, it's a direct vote.

It's a serious death struggle. I didn't know we're fighting each other to the death. I think that should be the name of your heavy metal band. Furious death struggle. Oh man, so good. Well, I imagine that the Tiger would have absolutely destroyed the Pima. Right. Yeah, interesting.

You're not sure. It brought some facts to it. That was all I didn't look into it anymore. Furious, death struggle was all I needed. You don't know who won the Furious Death. Pura and Taga are the biggest cats in the world. By far. Yeah. So Puma is one of the smaller end of the big cat, the lion's not bigger than them. No, a lion's not bigger than them. No, a lion's not bigger than them. A lion's second. Yeah, but a lion's second. A lion's second. A lion's second. A lion's second.

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I think the way they're looking for is anthropomorphize. Anthropomorphize. I didn't say that right. It was just repeating what you said. One more time. And throw for more fires. And throw for more fires. What did I say? What are the word I say? You said an an an an an an morph, which is that 90s show where they could turn into animals. Okay. Okay. Okay. So what's your? What's the main problem? So this one's from history.com. Within a couple of weeks of the opening, nearly all of the

36 cars on the autopia, which was what's dream of a utopian miniature freeway, which children could learn respectful rules of the road. Oh, sounds like a lame ride. Within a couple of weeks of that opening, nearly all of those 36 cars were wrecked by aggressive drivers who crashed into one of the other vehicles. Yeah. What even in... What? Because dodging cars are way more fun.

So people are smashing the cars for fun. And they're like little cars you can just drive around the park. Oh my god That's such a great idea though Yeah, all there was a track so there was a That's what Frank's naturalism. Oh, I see now a little car But then people just kept crashing them in from suspect number one. Yeah, yeah, wow Cool. Oh, I think he was known as Gary. I guess that's it. Yeah, Gary's not. Gary's in that truck. I mean, yeah, later that day, the name has started getting around a bit. But, you know, like, there wasn't social media then you couldn't spread an nickname as quickly,

so. There was a, there was a bit of time where he was known as Gary Frank Sinatra. I just say you're Franken in the rock Do I in the rock? Yeah, exactly. Gary the Frank Sinatra. Yeah, and then he dropped Gary and then he dropped the the So he was the Frank Sinatra for the world. And the Frank Sinatra.

Well, it was the Frank Ferdess Sinatra. And then just Frank. You don't need the whole body. He went through a serious phase. Yeah, it did. When it's kind of like how Prince was the artist formerly known as Prince for a while there, which is a symbol. It's kind of like that. Yeah.

It was formerly known as Gary. Frank and Fertzenart. It's interesting. We have another hashtag today. Maybe hashtag Gary's an after. He just did about the hashtag Gary's an after. He just did about the hashtag Gary's an after. Oh, and that's the winner.

Although we did get a tweet this week saying hashtag leave the hashtags to Jess. Sure did. Well, I've... Well, we got that a few weeks here whenever we got it. We got it at some point. I've got a few more minutes to come up with one. Okay, great. Well, if you can beat hashtag Gary some extra. Good luck. So, yeah, I thought that was fun. I was just like, that one, it wasn't that fun or funny, but it was super heart breaking.

You just picture a Walt Disney with this thing. It's gonna be a utopia. Everyone's gonna learn respects for the road and each other within weeks. I think it's hilarious that they just completely call us and we're fucked. I think it's funny. I just like, well, after closing, standing,

looking over this pile of car rubble, just for the single tee. Hahaha! Is that heartbreaking? Yeah. For what? And, okay, one last one here, due to the lack of adequate preparation time leading up to the opening, they ran out of time to clear the weeds that had sprouted along the banks

of the canal. Can I? Can I help? Can I help? Hahaha! I'm just, I'm losing, I'm losing, I'm losing, I'm losing, I'm losing, I'm losing, I'm losing, I'm losing, I'm losing, I'm losing, I'm losing, I'm losing, I'm losing, I'm losing, I'm losing, the weeds that had sprouted along the banks of the canal canal I'm just I'm losing I'm losing all confidence in my ability to read word This is wrong canal canal canal I'm gonna start again canal Amazing, you didn't have you never come across the word? No, I know I know it well, but it's just like me going on. What's happened? All I'm seeing is C anal. That's very funny.

C anal. Otherwise, no, it's canal. Due to the lack of adequate preparation time leading up to the opening, they ran out of time to clear the weeds that had sprouted along the banks of the canal boats. I like it says C-Anal when I read it. So, did I pause there? Yeah, it looks like I see it. Yeah, it says canal. Canal, so I'll see you. C-Anal runal. See anal run. Run anal run.

So there's lots of bushes along there. Yeah, lots of anal. Canal. A lot of bushes of weeds along there. See anal boats. Is that a bigger deal? Of the world, right. Wasn't that bigger a deal, but it was obviously a bit messy.

And so to cover this, Walt ordered workers to play signs with exotic species names in Latin next to them. That's so clever. It's easy to use. But that almost would have taken more effort than just ripping out the way. He's had to get a signwriter, a proof of it. That does sound like a book, maybe that is a bullshit thing, because that doesn't make any sense.

In the time that they like, are delicately placing the sign, they could just rip out the weeds. Yeah, there must have been a crazy amount of weeds. I guess it's a warm canal, and they were just sort of like sprinkling signs. That's pretty funny. Yeah, that was my favorite one,

so that it ended up. That's great. That's pretty good. Have you ever seen, there's a video, I don't know if it's online anymore, John Saffran, the sort of media personality as radio and TV shows. His first break into media was, he did a competition on ABC called Race Around the World, where he had, they sent different young contestants around the world to film videos and he filmed one at Disneyland and he films himself breaking into Disneyland. Oh my gosh

I'm just fantastic and then he goes on the there's a whole world after all ride and places his own toy and he puts up I think plucks underneath the bolt Disney's photos because he was a famous anti-Semite Really allegedly what yeah underneath the Walt Disney's photos, because he was a famous anti-Semite. Really? Allegedly. What? Yeah, apparently. And then John's F. Anderson of Jewish Heritage. And yeah, he puts up these official thing

like golden plaques underneath the thing. Yeah, so it's quite amazing. Well, so during the opening ceremony, they said something, I should have written it down, but they said something like we've got representatives from all three major faiths, Protestants, Catholics, and Judaism. Oh, they did have that. Well, there you go. It's just a room on the agenda. I love a world where two of the three major faiths, and I mean all three of them are very closely related, but the first two are basically their Christianity. Yeah, yeah, the same. And then they had, I think it was Walt's nephew

Red Appareir, and they all said Appareir, and it was all super patriotic stuff as well about America being, you know, having the answers and hoping that the world could get on board, you know, with their idea of freedom that they came up with and stuff like that. Did you know America came up with freedom? Well, yes I did. Famously.

They told me so. Cool. Well, yeah, that's it. Why are you doing cool? Any questions, any comments? I would like to know, and I get you don't have it in front of you, so it's kind of, it's a very wonky thing to do to us. Yeah, that's right. Trying to put you on the spot. But I would like to know how many staff The park has like how many people are working there because so the Apple store, right?

Just as an example I used to work directly opposite one of the biggest Apple stores in Australia I think in Melbourne and they had 200 staff members. They wouldn't all be on at the same time, but they had 200 staff members. So I'm imagining 100 acres, you know, thousands, hundreds of thousands of visitors every day, how many staff do they have? There was, I did see, and I've got it written down here somewhere. Okay, yeah. So, off the Wikipedia, so you never fully know if how true this is, but according to a March 2005 Disney company report,

65,700 jobs are supported by the Disneyland Resort. Okay, so that's a result. Including about 20,000 direct Disney employees and 3,800 third party employees. So that's not really answering your question, but it's like, we really did. It's a lot, and you know, they have like, sacred tunnels underneath the park. Really?

Yeah, one of my friends worked there, and you know I'll add talk about it, but she confirmed they are tunnels, and that's how they get around. Cause you never see, like you never see any of the stuff, like, you never see them walk through a door. Yeah, I guess, and especially at the characters and stuff, when they clock off, they don't, they can't just take their head off.

They go through tunnels underneath. And when I was in Disneyland, my dad always tells a story of this yut pulling up with all these guys with bins, so they're just cleaners, and then they start playing the bins and they're secret musicians. That's a little bit dismissive when you said just cleaners.

Well no because yeah that's what I mean because you're supposed to just think oh just couple of cleaners but that's the thing you never notice the cleaners. Look don't look twice at the cleaner. I mean it's an important job you know if there's no cleaners then rubbish is piling up. But if there's no musicians then what? Well you know exactly the world. You get on with your laugh. Yeah. No way cleaners are the I mean here as a the park

There's no been musicians is most specifically Are you done? Well, I think we are just about done here Matt So just now I'm gonna try and find some childhood photos of us at Disneyland and tweet them out and look in the background to see if we can see each other. Yeah, I'm going to look to that photo album. Yeah, and there's a great amount of photos from that day. So I'll find a few fun ones to tweet out of. Also, I'll send out a link to the broadcast and see if anyone can see Bob Cummings

macking on the background. Behind the back and his wife, she was only a couple of feet away. I imagine she was in the park. And it was a live broadcast. Oh my god, how do you think you can get away with it? How do you think? We'll be tweeting out all this stuff and checking on our Facebook page, which is do go on on Facebook and we're at do go on pod on Twitter.

You can email us do go on pod at gmail.com if like Evan you want us to talk about your topic. I should say yeah I should thank Evan for that. That was a great topic. It was something that I just never I had never had any interest. I was in America a couple years ago and I was in California and I had no interest. I didn't ever even thought about going but I reckon I was back there now just to see the place where all this crazy should happen. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. It's amazing.

Yeah, it's the most wonderful place in the world. Yeah, so they like, yeah, so I'm pretty stoked with people sending in ideas like that. The hat is stuck in a bulge with ideas but keep them coming because we're gonna do this for it. We'll do this forever if that's what it takes. Until the end of time. When I do it until the end, until the hat is empty, at least. So you've got to least a few more weeks coming out of do-go-on part. The problem is that the hat,

there's more things going into the hat than are coming out of it. Like we get multiple suggestions a week. Well, you're the only one who has to have... And I should pass the hat around. Yeah, pass the hat around for Jess who's going to be doing the report next week. Jess, we look forward to hearing from you then. Thank you. I thought you always look forward to hearing from me at any time

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