Two In The Think Tank - 201 - Amelia Earhart

Episode Date: August 28, 2019

You know the name, but how much do you actually know about Amelia Earhart? We take a look at Amelia's early life, and discover how much of a badass she really was, at a time when women were seen as pretty incapable.Buy tickets to our live shows here: https://dogoonpod.com/events/Our website: dogoonpod.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.biography.com/explorer/amelia-earharthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earharthttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/23/nyregion/henry-street-settlement-lillian-wald.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neta_Snook_Southernhttps://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a28819047/amelia-earhart-disappearance-crab-theory/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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You could start your new career in months, not years. Take classes online or on campus Visit PlanetBroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Dugo. One, my name is Dave Wannocky. I'm sitting here in a studio with Matt Scheward and Jess Jazz Hands Perkins. She's jazzing away. Matt, where were your hands? Uh, they're in my pockets as they always are. I appreciate your hands where I can tell you. Don't know what you knew about another table. Dave, uh, dinky... dick? Yeah, I've got a dinky dick. Yeah, I've got a dinky dick. I'm like it was like, why, what I go with the D word, I was trying to make it a little rate with hands.

I think I'd rather dinky dick than handsy dick. Yeah, or yeah. What your actual nickname, round the scene. What dinky dick or handsy dick, which one am am I handsy Dave? Oh, that's not fair handsy dick Hello, Dave. Hello Can you believe it? We've made it back to the studio for our third hundred Is that right? I guess so or is 200 the start of the third hundred So you got 100 is the end of the first hundred yeah, yeah, so this is the start of the third hundred. Yeah, wow unbelievable

Yeah, yeah, can you believe another milestone episode so soon after the 200 crazy? I've got a feeling next week could be even more special wow how do we keep doing it? It's so exciting. It is, it feels special. It does feel special because we haven't been in the same room the three of us, basically since we recorded the 200th episode. Yeah. Just a couple of weekends ago. Yeah. How are you? Oh, I'm so good. Oh good. How are you? I'm good, thanks Jess. Oh, great. Jess has had her birth day since. Happy birth day for yesterday, Jess. That means we're recording this in that sweet gap. Yes.

When Jess is old and Dave is butter boy. Yes. Little butter boy. They're character butter boy. He's a greased up ready to go. Yeah, and I'm only 28 years old and Jess. I remember 29. Oh, wait, when you get to my age, my friend in a couple hours time, you are not going

to know yourself. We are recording this the night before it goes out, and the day it comes out, it is my 29th first of all. Yeah. So, tweet it Dave. Pictures of your dinky dicks. Yeah. Or your hands he hands.

The choice is yours. And remember, the lizard man loves Butterboy. He loves Butterbeans. And Butterboy, everyone loves Butterboy. Wait, you're Butterbeenboy. Oh my God. I am. This is exciting.

Anyway, you know what else is exciting? Apart from like tenuous links to old jokes. Yes. Apart from any number of things to old jokes. Yes. Apart from any number of things. There's so many exciting things in the world. Oh my god. There's also heaps of awful things.

Um, Beyonce? Fireworks. Yeah, fireworks. And awful things. Yuck. But coming up in just a few weeks time, we're going to be heading to one of our favorite Australian cities. We have Pandora. It has my favorite bridge.

Bundera, gait. That was better. The fundera bridge. Oh, it's a beauty. I can't... No, no, focus, Jess. I did come up with a fun new character, but that will have to wait. Please, script it into the show somehow.

Somehow. We're coming to Sydney. Oh, yes, the second best bridge in the country, after the Bunder bridge, the Sydney Harbour bridge, home of the Sydney Harbour Bridge. Sydney, we are coming to Giant DeWolf, our favorite Sydney theatre there in Redfern. Awesome venue. How do you pronounce it, Jess? DeWolf.

Yeah, that was weird how we did it. DeWolf. DeWolf. The Wayne, the rock, Johnson. answer Jess. Wolf. Yeah, that was weird how he did it. The wolf. The wolf. The Wayne, the rock Johnson. John, the wolf, the rock. The deer. The Wayne, the rock, the wolf.

It's Saturday September the 21st. We are doing a beautiful Saturday night show. Oh, a beautiful show. A beautiful show. I'm Saturday night. You've got to bring out all the stops under Saturday night. Oh, yeah. Come on. Strobe it in I, you've got to bring out all the stops on a Saturday night. Oh yeah. Come on, Strobe is etiquette.

We'll be there. You'll be there, hopefully. Tickets are available now at our website, dogewohnpod.com. We'd love to. We haven't quite reached our reserve. So I can, a house auction to put it into the parlance that listeners would understand. We're actually listening. We really, we need to reach a certain number of ticket sellers before we buy our flights.

We haven't reached that reserve price yet. So, we are about to away. I watched an episode of location, location, location recently. So I am my heads in the game. I understand proper. And we also have a certain reserve that we will escape to the country together. Yeah. With the profits.

We're really a lot of those shows. I love house hunters. That's my favorite. I love playing English shows about poirots or people who like old English couples who are tweed and they want to buy a property somewhere in the country. I don't want to downsize but have eight bedrooms so that their family can come and visit them. We just want to run a B and B, but downsize.

I said, what are you talking about? You're 78 years old. You need one bedroom, possibly a study. That's it. They want eight bedroom manor home. Oh, we'd love some stables, do we love horses? No, you don't. You're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, you're so, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, There's one Lager, this one like constantly on the, okay, the Bush Chook. I'm gonna go check out those bridges.

Oh yeah. That's our Sunday November the 3rd at the Comedy Lounge in Perth. So if you can on that one, I'd do the suggestion jump on board. Hopefully we'll see you there Perth. First ever time. Now, this character I came up with.

Oh, here we go. You know how we in pirate movies? Lady Pirates are always like sexy and wearing a corset and have like long flowing hair but a hat. You know, lady pirates are always hot. I want to be a captain Barbosa, kind of lady pirate. So I just do walk around my house a lot later going, y'all, and it's really fun. Right, but you're not wearing a corset, is that the difference? Yeah, and I haven't bathed. Oh, nice one. Yeah. I realize in that sentence that I must have ever watched pirate movies because none of that made sense. What so... I'm thinking

of normally in pirate movies, men are not hot and women are hot. Yes. Is that what you're saying? Sure. That sounds... That sounds sexy to me. what about us being hot for once? Yeah, no. I'm trying to get out of here. Are there any other pirate movies? Probably. I think you can't just shittle over my, it's just a fun character I've been doing.

Can we hear a little bit of the character? Well, now I can't think of anything to say, but I'm sure I'll think of something. Alright, quick scenario, okay Dave. Alright, alright, alright, Dave's a shopkeeper. I'm Monimo Business in something. All right quick scenario. Okay Dave. All right. All right. Dave's a shopkeeper I'm money mode business in the 711 you enter. Oh, hello. Welcome to the pirate shop. Yeah, I'll be looking for some Milk of a cow Okay, well, we've got several different brands if you want to look up the back there

Okay, oh different brands if you want to look up the back there. Okay. Oh, she's like more, you want me to escort you to the milk. Okay, madam. I'm sorry, I'm used to my, uh, pirate women being a lot more attractive. You are the stink. Dave gets it. Just crush. Yeah. You got particles on you, you're just scrusting.

See, Dave gets it. Yeah. And sorry, Matt, what was your character? My name on business. You know it. I wrote myself out of it. Yeah, I'm sorry Matt. What was your character? My name on business. You know I wrote myself out of it A lot of internal model are going on there What's going on over you? There's supposed to be a pirate in this seven eleven. That's weird Pirate in the pirate shop and

Scene fantastic work. Thank you. You're available for kids birthday parties. I imagine no Thank you. You're available for kids birthday parties, I imagine. No, please come see my comedy festival show next year. That character will not feature unless you really liked it, in which case maybe. Yeah. I like to keep it ambiguous. Great reviews. Yeah, yeah.

Hey, if people want to see us at the fringe, how about we tell them about that as well? It's probably a thing which is talking about the Melbourne fringe is coming out. Yes, so we're doing a show called Razzle Dazzle. Razzle Dazzle. Yes. And it is at the coopersin and you can get tickets via either jess's website, which is jessperkins.com.au or mine, matstjordcomedy.com. We'll just look up the fringe side as well.

And it's going to be fun. I can't remember the dates, however, there's eight of them. The twelfth limited to only eight The twelfth to the 19th. I love that eight notes only 12 to the 19th Melbourne French get on board should be a heap of fun. We'll be there All right, let's crack on with the show. What do you say? What's the puzzle part character for the name Jess? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, she do Yarshi do Yeah, she does a good name. All right

Matt how about you tell us what the show is about so the way the show normally would work is the three of us of us one of us will come in With a research topic which they've probably gotten from a listener suggestion, possibly voted on by Patreons. They'll research it for a lot of time, usually, and then write out a report, and then they'll tell the report to the other two. We'll be annoying and put them off course. And we get on a topic with a question. This week, Jess is doing the topic, Jess, what is your question to get us on to topic?

My question is, who is quoted as saying, never interrupt someone doing something you said couldn't be done? Oh, my goodness. That's the real thing, isn't it? Never interrupt someone doing something. Sorry man, I'm gonna just hop you right there. Okay.

That's good stuff. So I'm guessing it's someone famous. It is someone famous. Abraham Lincoln. No. Neither of us are correct there. Neither of you are correct. Are they American?

We said to American names. Yes. Okay, well we've narrowed it down. Whitney Houston. No, but he's going the right gender for that helps. Okay. Okay. I'm all out of women. Wow. I can't think of one I've already done Dolly Pop. Oh, Sarah Jessica. Bob Bush. No, we in entertainment or politics or medicine

Three categories Dance hip hop. No, that's an end of time and bro. Think about the sky. Nothing. Emile Ereha. Yes! Well done. Thank you.

Did you? She flew with playing. Nice one. Did that quite help you at all? Because you seemed well on, soon as you said playing straight into her. I feel like as soon as I said, woman playing.

Yeah, lady pilot. You'd go, you'd get it. And I read that quote and thought, that's nice. That's a great quote. Can we hear it one more time? Never interrupt someone doing something you said couldn't be done. So you're like, you can't do that and then they try and you go, nah, stop, well don't interrupt them.

You'd be a hater? Especially the things that are quite dangerous like flying a plane, yeah. It's basically don't be a Hader. Could you name another American woman pilot? I can now because of this report. Oh, okay. Oh, Nancy Burt.

Is that one? I'm sure I'm gonna think of any other American pilots. I mean, we've done a report on one. I know the flight center. Oh, the flight center. What's going on? Yeah, part Sully Sullenberger. Yeah, that's a pilot.

I'm out. I had one last week. This is your Captain Keith Johnson speaking. I'll keep John. They love to do that. Yeah. They can't have any dead air. They can't afford to breathe those guys.

I'm guessing they're splitting their mind on the air air and the chat. Just I can't believe cruising it. But 22,000 feet. Look Keith, you've interrupted my movie. That's a fucking point. That hates it. Matt is the most mellow, mild person. Mellow dramatic. I've ever met. But you pretty want to play, just trying to watch a movie and interrupt him five times. Samuel Jackson's cut off half way through a speech. Oh my God, he's sick and tired of it. Live it. Motherfucking slacks.

On this motherfucking, eh, what could be that? I love it when they actually have a surprisingly good radio like, radio voice. Oh. Thanks so much for joining us today. Folks, we'll have you back on the air in the ground. Oh, you're on the air! You're a weird Christopher.

Yeah! Cameron, right up. I appreciate you choosing us today. And if Melbourne's home, welcome home. I fucking love that! Yes! All right, does Amelia have that kind of voice? No. But this is a very long report

and also a topic that was suggested by a lot of people. Heaves of Heaves of People have suggested this topic, actually. And it was voted on by the Patrons. I put four badass ladies to the patrons this week. Oh, so she's a badass. And I was like, who do you want to hear more about? Because I was like, we need some more. Was Wuppie Goldberg one of the options?

I think he's ladies. No, not this time, but there were some good options. I was surprised actually they went for Amelia, not that I don't think she's impressive. I just thought there was a couple of options on there that they'd be like, yeah, do that. But this has been suggested by Heavs of People, so I'll go through a few of them now.

Tashmori, Elvis,uz, Nolasco. Oh, sorry, is that one name? Yes. Whoa. Night McLean, Lynn from Washington. Hi Lynn. Is that one name? Yes.

Soraya Mention, Ian Whitehead, Alec McElroy, Kean Lennigan and Alexi Fristacci. Molley, Molley, Molley, Molley. It's a amazing name. It's a fashion crop. So great, suggested everybody. And thank you to the Patreon for your very little on it as well. Now, there's a very long report,

so I'm gonna try and keep it together and not do my pirate character much. Yeah, luckily we've got Stradem of the report. So this should be smooth sailing, what's smooth flying? You know, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh 97 the same year that the VFL football competition began. Really? Yes. There's a long time ago. She was the oldest child of Edwin and Amelia Amy. Amelia went by Amy. This is Amelia Earhart's like Amelia the third, I think, at least.

Oh, I like that. It's going to get confusing. So her mom goes by Amy. And Amelia had a younger sister as well called Grace. Their mother Amy was pretty progressive and didn't seem to believe in typical gender role so she really encouraged her girls to explore and be themselves. Both Amelia and Grace were very adventurous. Amelia was a real ringleader and Grace just sort of happily followed her big sister around.

And the family called the girls by their nicknames right up until adulthood. So Amelia was known as Mealy, which sort of makes sense. Grace was called Pidge. You would have thought she'd be the flyer. Pidge? Yeah. Well, what do you think? Why is that?

No, a good point. No, what was your reasoning there? Pidgeon. Oh, they fly. Done? Yeah. Mealy's done. Mealy's done. Mealy does feel pejorative, right?

What do you mean? What does it feel like it's not a positive? Mealy? Calling someone Mealy. Like that's like a lesser thing right? Mealy. Mealy. Oh, I see what you mean Well, they're spelling it like mealy my daughter M. W. L. E. Y. Like, Meeley. Or Meeley, they call this sometimes too. Meeley, now I'm on board. Okay, all right. Hey, Meeley.

And Pidge. Let's fly, Meeley and Pidge. Pidge is a sweet man. Pidge is cute. Pidge is sick. So the girls would spend their days climbing trees, hunting rats, riding a sled down hill, and collecting frogs and worms.

Right, so they would collect the frogs and worms but they would hunt the rats. Yes, you don't collect rats, Dave. Oh wow. You hunt them. I don't know. So their uncle helped Amelia build a ramp from the roof of the family's shed,

and she rode in a wooden box down this ramp, ended up with a bruise lip, torn dress, and a sensation of the family shed. And she rode in a wooden box down this ramp, ended up with a bruise lip torn dress, and a sensation of exhilaration. That's awesome. Sensation of exhilaration. It was like her. Is that one of yours? It's beautiful.

No, that's a quote. I would never come up with something like that. Oh, man, I wish. She exclaimed, oh, Pidge, it's just like flying. It was her first flight. So yeah, this was her first taste of flying and spoiler alert, she does a bit more flying. Really, so that's not the famous flight that we all

think of. That's not the big one. No, she didn't just go down a ramp. She's not famous for as a kid, pushing herself in a box. I mean, we've all got a mattress and some stairs, you know? Yeah, but first seven year old to think of that, we've all got a mattress and some stairs, you know? Yeah, but first seven-year-old to think of that. We all, you've had her. Of course.

You know, there's that idea that some people will live up to their name. Do you think Airhart had anything to do with her being taken to the Earth? What's the normative determinism? Nominative determinism. Oh, like if you lost names Baker. Yes, and I went to a promise school with someone called called last name Gardner. Now a gardener. No And a Baker Wow As in just like they they have a house and they do the gardening sometimes yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

I was listening to her say that also sometimes just the laundry This laundry bag This is my friend, Peter washing baskets. Peter, live up to you now. Dream big. Let me throw my dirty clothes at you. And my friend, Chris astronaut, also a baker. I know lots of bakers.

So, Amelia's father, Edwin, showed a lot of promise, but he was never able to break the bonds of alcohol, like how they wrote that. He was on nearly constant search to establish his career and put the family on a firm financial foundation. He kind of like bounced from job to job. Couldn't hold jobs very well because he was an alcoholic. If anything got paid to do that. No, yeah.

I mean, you know, do what you love. Yeah. You never worked any longer. He laughed, man. He's like, I haven't. But I'm happy. When the situation got bad, like if he drank away their money, Amy would take Amelia and her sister to their grandparents' home, which is actually where she was bought, the house in Kansas, where she was born was her grandparents' house.

The family, when they weren't staying with the grandparents, moved around a lot. The girls were homeschooled for a while by their mother and a governess, and Amelia found a passion for reading. In 1907 her father Edwin, he sort of got transferred so he did have a job who was working as a claims officer for the Rock Island Railroad and he got transferred to Iowa. So now the families back together and the sisters are in Iowa and they're enrolled in public school for the first time. So she was about 10 before she actually went to a

proper school. She showed early aptitude in school for science and for sports, but she did struggle a bit to adjust to school after spending such a long time moving around. She said where are the ramps? Where's mom? Who are these other kids? Look at my mom. What's his building? What do I have at home? Things seem to settle for a little while though. The family's finances improve, they bought a new house and they even hired two servants. That's doing pretty well. Oh, come on now. Alcoholism is paying off. Yeah, that's right.

If you drink long enough, suddenly. Well, within a few years, Edwin's alcoholism, again, caught up with them and he was forced to retire from the Rock Island Railroad, Railroad. And although he attempted to rehabilitate himself, he was never reinstated. So they basically were like, you can't work here. He was like, I'll get better. And they're like, no. Ah.

Around the same time, the girl's maternal grandmother, Amelia Otis, passed away. And fearing that Edwin, her son-in-law, would, would, he's drinking, would drain away any money she left her daughter, she plays to substantial estate in a trust for her daughter and her granddaughter. So she was like, I don't trust him. Right. Which was pretty savvy of her I think. Amelia was heartbroken a lot of her grandmother and later described this time as the end of her childhood to be fair she was about 15. So yeah.

That's when they also stopped calling her Amelia. Her sister by this time's going by Muriel, which is her middle name or something? What graces of her? Yeah, grace is much better than Muriel. And also now you're a Mealy or in Muriel. Oh, no, I mean Pige is better than Muriel. Yeah, anything's better than Muriel. It seemed to happen more in the and the past Where people would take their middle names and stuff. Well, yeah, even her father Edwin, I think his name was actually Samuel or something. And Amy is Amelia. They change their names around a lot, but they go by different names. Yeah.

I wonder where that was. Do you think they just had less names to choose from? So to avoid confusion, they'd just give themselves nicknames for things or... I don't know, they'd have less to do at that time. Ah. I'm bored. Comic grace. Okay, great. Now I'm your real.

People now are less likely to choose their own name, but back then it seemed like they'd give them a few and you'd pick your favorite. Yeah, do with it this what you will. Yeah. Hmm. Who knows? So, after about a year long search, Emilie's father found work as a clerk at the Great Northern Railways. He was a clerk.

In St Paul, Minnesota in 1915. So once again, the family moved. And later that year, he applied, this is so weird how this happened. He applied for a transfer to go to Springfield, Missouri. But then the current claims office of there reconsidered his retirement and kept his job. So then the keeping out Edwin's without a job. He's like, Oh, but I left that one for this job.

Oh, it's actually left in Paul for that. He left, yes, some Paul for Springfield and then Springfield, there was no job. So where was some Paul was Sympol? Sympol's in Minnesota. All right, Minnesota. Minnesota. So deciding enough was enough. Amy moved herself and the girls to Chicago

to live with friends of hers. She separated from the husband. She went to live in Chicago. Second city. Her father's inability to be the provider for the family, led Amelia Earhart to become independent and not rely on someone else to take care of her. And that's gonna come up again later.

I'm Aunt Wendy City. Yeah. And a pretty bold move, Amelia, susst out her options for what school she should go to next. So she was like almost like an auditioning school. She was going in like sussing them out and deciding what she wanted to do. She rejected the high school nearest her home because she said that the chemistry lab was just was just like a kitchen sink. It wasn't up to

her standards. So she's used to it, home school, it being a kitchen sink, but still, but like a you know, it being a kitchen sink, but still. But, you know, it's a really nice one. Nice one, yeah, marble. Yeah, it's a big, it's like a double sink. Yeah, only a single sink. Come on. Come on, what are you doing?

Unbelievable. You got a single sink in the butler's pantry. Yeah, no worries. So, she eventually rolled in a hard park high school for her final year of school. And she did pretty well academically, but it was a bit of a miserable year for her. There was a caption in the yearbook under a picture of her

that captures the essence of her unhappyness. It just says, A.A. the girl in brown who walks alone. Oh, a lamb bells. Did she submit that herself? Because that is treacherous. who walks alone. Oh, alarm bells. Did she submit that herself? Because that is treacherous. Is that a description of a school girl or a ghost? The girl in brown.

Yeah. The picture of brown ghosts. Blue blocks alone. It sounds like a haunting description. Imagine brown being your trademark color. Oh. Wow. The positive, if you ever shit yourself. No, think about it.

You're always thinking about the positive. The only thing worse could be the positive. Oh, the anything worse. I'm gonna say if she was the girl in grey or something. The girl in bags. No, I'm not being grey than brown. I love brown chocolate brown. When grey right now. Yeah, fair enough. Grey is fine. Brown sucks. I wore a chocolate brown grey right now yeah very nice grace fine brown sucks I wore a chocolate brown suit to my formal so did my my first boyfriend to a year 12 formal well that's how I'm wrong with him I don't know someone fun about it having fun sorry does that description describe you with the formal the man in brown walking alone. He test brought her.

No, I chose not to bring a day. That was there with Justin Windowsil. Wow, she had quite the figure. Hey, Boxy, hey, the girl in brown who walks alone. Oh, come, Jesus. That's okay. That's tragic. Yeah.

But she flies with mates. After graduation, she spent a Christmas vacation visiting a sister in Toronto. After seeing wounded soldiers returning from World War I, she volunteered as a nurse's aide for the Red Cross. She came to know many wounded pilots. She developed a strong admiration for aviators spending much of her free time watching the Royal Flying Corps practicing at the airfield nearby. As in the sunglasses. What? She said she had a strong admiration

for aviators. Yes. She looks at it. The weird thing is I get it. Yeah, they just said every face. All these wounded guys coming in, she's like, ooh, like those sownies. I feel cool. You can't take them off. I'm severely injured behind this. I've got no eyes. I felt very nice. Help me.

So she's still working as a nurse when the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic reached Toronto and she herself contracted the illness. A pandemic's the good ones, which we're trying to damage are the good ones. Dave, what's the good, Demick? That's what I asked you. Epidemic?

Epidemic. That's also bad. Pandemic doesn't sound good either. Pandense, all right. What is a pandemic? Dave? Dave, what's a pandemic? What's the difference between a pandemic and an epi epidemic actually close to them?

I'm looking at it. Oh, the words interchangeable. Pandemic, a pandemic is an outbreak of global proportions. Okay, epidemic, then there we go. I'm not, okay. Is that more localized? Yes, he did, maybe. Well, what pan means there?

Cause like what pan Pacific is at the same sort of, what does that mean? Spread, spread is the Pacific. And epidemic is a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in the community at a particular time. And a pandemic is an outbreak of global proportions. Oh, so pandemic's bigger, maybe.

Pan's worse than epi. Ooh. I guess. Yep, all right, let's go with that. And don't tweet it out. But you can use them interchangeably a lot if you want to be in care. Yeah. And I don't tweet it out. But you can use them interchangeably a lot. If you want to be in care. Yeah.

And I don't, Dave. But if you want to get people's attention, don't talk about epidemic. Most doctors would be like, whatever mate. Pandemic. Holy shit. We got to lock this shit down. So she gets sick as well.

And she was hospitalized in early November 1918. Spend a couple of months in hospital being treated. It was pretty serious. Once she was out of hospital, she spent close to a year recuperating at a sister's home in Northampton, Massachusetts. Yeah, Massachusetts. That one that's easy to say.

Massachusetts. Yeah. Sorry. What do you say there? I thought I had to go. Yeah. Well, let's try. It was cute. Yeah. Well, first try.

It was cute. Yeah, it was cute attempts. Thank you. So she had like a huge sinus infection as well and several operations for that. And it was an ongoing issue for her. Or millions of people died from it. It was huge.

It wasn't just an epidemic, guys. It was a pandemic. It was a pandemic. No, Matt. A pan-fucking-demic. Oh, please, which is doubling that? It's a double pandemic. Pan-fucking-demic. Oh, oh no.

Yeah, it's bad. I've got to make it cool. So while she's recuperating it, it assists her. She's passing the time by reading poetry, learning to play the banjo and studying mechanics. Oh, wasting time. Better than ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.

Change the calculator. Badda ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding a year later to be with her parents who'd reunited and went together in California. God, she's lifting about 90 different years. I know. Do they all claim her? Bet they do. Probably. There's like seven different museums. Yeah. Millie Earhart's famous childhood home. She lived here for six months. She once lived a bunch. She once lived a bunch and better in this sink. Like a ACEDC in Australia. Everyone claims a piece of them. Bonscott and Freemannels or his Barry's buried, I see an AC line in Melbourne, because there was a film clip filmed here. I think they did a lot of work in Sydney, maybe, and Adelaide, I think, have a climb of

a piece of them as well. Brisbane have shops as a long way to get to, so. Yeah. Which is not even there, but to the original lyrics. So I have a top bit of fun there. We wear black. Sometimes I did. and they're up to the original lyrics. They're up to our top. A bit of on there. We wear black. Sometimes I did.

Sometimes I wore brown. Okay. Horrible color. I walked a lot. What are they doing? So, in 1920, in Long Beach, on December 28, 1920, a million or no further visited an airfield where Frank Hawks, who later gained fame as an air racer.

Okay, Hawks, there's another non-duplume, oh, thing I heard that you said before. Nobody else has heard me this. Yeah, non-duplume. Are you saying it's made up now? So you're saying that he went on to become a Hawk? Yes. Which flies in the sky, just keep up.

I can't keep up I don't get it. I'm not so advanced. How do you do it? What's his name Ethan Hawke? Ethan Hawke Ethan Hawke's dad Frank Hawke's oh wow My words recent. Yeah, it's too hard Hawkes Yuck what is it to you? My name is Chris your Ethan now Ethan Hawke, okay. So he was like offering flights. He could go on a little joy ride in a plane. Custody Ten bucks off you go.

And he gave me a ride that would forever change her life. This is a quote from Amelia. She says, by the time I'd got two or three hundred feet off the ground, I knew I had to fly. Well, yeah, you are. Otherwise you'll fall in. Yeah, yeah. She off the ground. I knew I had to fly. Well, yeah, you are. You're already doing it. Otherwise you'll fall in.

Yeah, yeah. Did she grab the controls? Ethan, off it. Get off, get off. I have to do it. No, I think I got it. I think I got it. I think I get flying.

How could it be? Do you ever think like? It's a fight of flight scenario. Do you ever think that if you had to take the wheel, on a plane? We would all die. Yeah. Now pull up. You would say, but if you had to take the wheel on a plane? We would all die. Yeah. Now pull up.

You want to say that? You want to say that? It was all of that. It was all of that. I remember flying to Kosovo in all of the clock saying he doesn't drink on the plane in case. Who gets to get scored up? I think someone needs to take the wheel. Is he having an experience?

No! But he's just like, no, I can't. In case there's a crisis and they need me. That is great. I've often thought about one thing I think about more is, I've never had like a, you know, some people say valium or something to knock themselves out on the plane. Never done that.

And I think about one thing that stops me from trying it is, what have you completely passed out, and then there is an emergency, and you have to get off the plane quickly. All right. Does that ever happen? Like, no. That crashes your diet, right?

Well, a lot of the time. But what if you're a Sally Salimberg and you've got to get off on the Hudson River? People in our care. They should not take value. But people, yeah. Oh, why the guilt of me being carried out? Because I'm actually a sleeper. I don't mean you're not, I don't think you're knocked out that hard that you couldn't

be shook and awake. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, they floppy, whereas if you're alert, you'll tense up and break more bones and do more damage.

Right. Yeah, that's a... My brother broke the steering wheel off his car in an accident once, because he tensed so much that when the impact hit, his steering wheel broke. But I suppose it's probably better than the alternative which has been being impaled. Was he injured? Pretty sore, but he was okay. Wow. It didn't have an airbag

didn't it? It was just like floating around popping. Who does the airbag come loose? That's a beach ball in your car with a heavy steering wheel underneath. Yeah, so I mean, I think you'll be okay, Dave, and where do you fly without me? Like, I'll carry you. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. What are you up to on the leg press? without me like I'll carry you. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. What are you up to on the leg press? I haven't done leg press this round, but I think I was 140 or something.

140 is that it? No, I think it's more. I think it's more. Yeah, you're fine. Are you under 140? You could do me plus the person next to you. I could lift you. Well, once you're done doing me, yeah.

Oh, I can't make you mad. Maybe this will help. I'm not mad. What a terrifying way to wake up. Terrifying way to die. Hey. There are worse ways you could die. What would be confusing though?

So the plane's gone down. I've missed a lot here. I don't wake up. You're wearing the oxygen mask. You're on top of me. I'm like, what the hell? It's what he would have wanted. I panicked. I swear, we've talked about it on a podcast.

Anyway, so Amelia Earhart is like, I need to fly. This is my calling. I belong in the sky. I'm paraphrasing. Oh boy. You had a belly? It's not good if I can't talk when I'm doing the report. So anyway, she starts I'm doing the report.

So anyway, she starts then working a number of different jobs to save up to a Ford flying lesson. So she worked as a photographer, as a truck driver. Those are two examples, but there were others apparently. She managed to put her truck in trucks. Yeah. And then trucking cameras. Yeah, trucking cameras about.

Ha ha ha ha. Just transporting cameras. Well, she did it all. She did it all. Just like, cameras get to see the world too. You're looking through them all the time. What about what they want to see? Let them look through you.

Yeah. Imagine if a camera used you to see. Ha ha ha ha. Oh, oh, oh. That's a black mirror episode. Imagine if a camera used you to see That's a black mirror episode That really should really add about this all right seriously 95 people are cameras great a lot of doubt So she saves up a thousand dollars to pay for a flying lessons back then that's a shoot load isn't it? Thous1,000 is so much money. That'd be a fortune. Hate. Imagine having a thousand dollars.

Not me, Dave. Jess, imagine having a thousand dollars. That'd be so nice. I mean, flying lessons now are horrendously expensive still. They're really expensive, yeah. They're really expensive, yeah. Because that would be fucking terrifying. And you need so many hours to get qualified, so it's expensive.

And the only thing is you don't fly, you don't learn in the safe planes You learn in those small ones are always on the news for crashing But if you can fly one of those little ones you can fly big one You know I mean the big ones basically for themselves. Yes, that's I've heard that so I've heard that too Yeah, just push it up. Oh, we have to do is go You gotta press the take off button. No, that's a thing. So you left the first lesson Right Amelia welcome to the cockpit. Welcome to plane, can I just say? We're doing a vocal fry 101.

You have a go. Hi, I'm Amelia Earhart and welcome to the cockpit. I'll stop there. That is a very quick, very quick. Your passengers won't know what's happening. Suddenly Matt's watching the movie again. We don't want that to happen. Come on. You've got to take a solid three minutes and give them information. They don't fully understand.

I don't, I mean, well you tell me what the hype we're flying at. I don't know if that's good. We've got a stronger tailwind here, but 30 knots southeastly. What the hell are you talking about? I don't, is it gonna be bumpy? We're gonna land at 810, which is about two minutes ahead of schedule. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, bumpy? We're gonna land at 810, which is about two minutes ahead of schedule. No, he, don't care. I don't care. Who cares? Tell me if we're gonna be four hours late.

Sure, but shut up. I'm watching Captain Marvel again. And then this one, a cross-check prepare the cabin to landing. Yeah. What's a fucking cross-check? Captain Marvel shoe is a pilot, I think. Yes.

In the movie, at least. Yes. Whoa. Whoa. think. Yes. In the movie, at least. Yes. Whoa. Whoa. Wow. Now, you can name another female pilot. Catch a marvel. Anyway, so she saved her boy money

and she had her first flying lesson on the 3rd of January, 1921 at Kenneth Field, Neil Long Beach, and her teacher was Nita Snook. Great name. Fantastic name. Again, a Nita Snook. was Nita Snook. Great name. Fantastic. Again, Anita Snook. Anita Snook.

Sounds like a prank called a mose, is like, Atheron. Anita Snook. Anita Snook. Anita Snook. I'm not serving another beer until Anita Snook comes over here. Now, Anita was actually the first woman aviator in Iowa. She was a first woman student accepted at the Curtis Flying School in Virginia.

First female aviator to run her own aviation business and first woman to run a commercial airfield. But still she's most well-known for being the teacher of Amelia Earhart. So she was super impressive herself. Yeah that's really Anita need a schnuck. A need a schnuck. And Amanda Huggampiss. So Amelia immersed herself in learning to fly. She read everything she could find on flying,

spent much of a time at the airfield. She cropped her hair short, like a lot of the other lady aviators were doing. She was like, okay, yeah, I'll help you. Have a bottle out of hair, come on. Yeah, she did. Worried what the other more experienced parts might think of it. She even slept in her new leather jacket for three nights to give it a more worn look. Wow. I also loved the fact that there were experienced pilots in 1909. Yeah, it's not 1909, it's 1921. Oh, shit. Huge difference.

You've just skipped over the wall. No, I've talked about the wall. And we all enjoyed it. And then there was the pandemic of 1918. Which was working as a nurse. Fucking Demick. In the wall of the aviators. Because there was even pandemic, you got sick.

Whoa. Oh, I just woke up. Okay. Oh, the volume. Hey. Oh, I, oh got sick. Whoa, oh, I just woke up. Okay. Oh, the volume. Hey, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Are you good? You up to date? Yeah. We were talking about Neeta Snook. Neeta Snook. Neeta's listing impressive people. Let's get at some losers. Is that not most of what this podcast is?

I guess it is. Impressive people. Occasional losers. And sometimes evil. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes impressive evil losers. Yeah! We love those. Yeah, that's right, factor.

Yeah. Jinks. Oh no. Can't think of it. That's also a dive. Yeah. Anda. Jinks. Oh, no. That's also Dave. And impressive. Evil loser. Yeah. I'll take two of those.

Which ones? I don't know. You'll take evil loser. I'll be an evil or a loser. Probably a loser. Well, if you're a good person, you want to be an evil loser, right? You don't want to be an evil winner. That's true.

That's right. I'm bad at being evil. And therefore, I took one for the first time. First and you want to be an evil loser, right? You don't want to be an evil winner. That's true, that's right. I'm bad at being evil. I'm there for it. Took one for the team there. Yeah, nice. Oh, you suck. Okay, so six months later.

Lulza. Amelia Perch is to secondhand bright yellow, Kina Aster by plane. And she named it the Canary. I'd call it the banana. Oh, flying bananas. To it for Canary, which I guess is a yellow bird. It's a nice name.

And they do fly molding bananas. Canaries are always yellow. Can they be different colors? I think they can. Cool. I'm going out on a limb here, I'm saying definitely can be. How can they definitely cannot? Oh wow.

Just for a point of contention. And I'm going to say, maybe. maybe he was the question so be great if you all along can they wrong already researched this earlier the main question canary plumage is yellow but when they do the mating dance. The female of the species, a fawny brownie gray. And when they do their mating dance, was that, was that look like? Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Oh, especially, okay. There's a lot of their wings a bit. Oh, there's a whole look out of their way. Yeah, right. Oh, wow, a bit of Jun with Old Town. Oh, he's down by having sex with a cadet.

Yeah. Oh my god. I hate this now. I love it. It went from a cute little dance to just two graphic and I didn't like watching my good friend do that. Not a colleague. My good colleague do that.

Sorry, I got in a zone. Not often that you watch a friend from my fucker bed. Yeah. It's not often when it's a treat when it happens. Yeah, I was playing the canary down the mine if you know what I mean. Oh wow. Wow. Okay, so she's bought a plane called the Canary.

Oh, is she having sex with her? She's fucking the plane. Is there anything? Is there any evidence to say that she wasn't? There's no evidence to say that she wasn't. Thank you. So, prove it's wrong. She said it was a biplane.

It was a biplane. Hmm. Oh, it could be. Also, that he listens to. Oh, that's the one fact he's taking away from it. I said that he listens to. Oh, that's the one fact he's taking away from it. But the war he thinks I've skipped. But I mean, what I said made no sense.

The plane doesn't have a gender, but it has an agenda. And that is the... Especially true though. ...as many humans as possible. Yeah. What's it trying to do? Breathe some sort of flying human hybrid? Whoa, that'd be great. Plane people.

Plane people. Anyway, so following in October 1922, so she's been flying for just under two years now. Is this after the war? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I skipped over the war. She flew the Estes of the Canary to an altitude of 14,000 feet, setting a world record for female pilots.

That really within two years of learning to fly. She's setting world records. It's impressive. World record for height in a plane. Altitude. Altitude, sorry. Yes. For a lady. Yeah.

For a lady pilot, because they're different to man pilots. That is a funny one to have a different record for both. Yeah. It's pretty stupid, but it's a different time. But I'm guessing that she wouldn't have had a record otherwise, right? Otherwise you would just be saying the height record. I guess so. So maybe think about that for a second. So it's otherwise, right? Otherwise you would just be saying the heart record. I guess so. So maybe think about that for a second.

So it's on, it's my fault now. I assume so. I'm not really following what's going on. Me either. I'm just sort of agreeing with you to shut you up so I can get on to the next sentence. I'm just trying to play the soy boy character as best as I can. And you're so good at it.

Thank you. About six months later in May of 1923, she became the 16th woman in the United States to be issued a pilot's license. So she was breaking all records without a license? Yeah, she's still learning. Breakers, the records and breaking the rules. Yeah, it sounds like it.

As she puts on her aviators. Oh, that's badass. You did say it was a badass. She's a pretty badass. That, wow. 16th license. So her license says 000016. No, I think it doesn't want a more intricate number,

but that would be sick. If it, imagine number one. Zero, the worst. Well, you know, you know, we're done. Well, actually, but they don't, I mean, they're not given different licenses, so it wouldn't be one and she wouldn't be 16. She would just be the next pilot to get a pilot's license. They don't have a separate lady license, it's not pink.

Oh, different time again. That's just a minute. I'm like now. I've got my lady driver's license. I'm allowed drive if my husband is with me. And he's had a few too many. That's a cool system. Yeah, it's a good one.

No, it's not actually not. It's terrible system. And it's not real. And I need no man. Don't bring that system in. Is that what you said? You just talked over me as I said, I don't need no man. Excuse me, I'll take it from here.

Anyway, so throughout this whole period as well, their family had been living mostly on the inheritance from Amy's motherhood, passed away. Oh, the trust fund. Yeah, the trust fund. So they're living on it. Amelia's mum Amy is sort of in charge of the trust. So she's kind of like administering the funds, but by 1924 the money had actually run out. Oh, guys, she was not administering well. Well, I mean, Amelia bought a plane to be fair. I think she had another plane as well. I think she had two planes. All right, this is the last money we have in the world. Spend on a plane. All right, I need another plane. I need a second plane. Alright, this is the last money we have in the world. Spend on a plane. Alright, I need another plane. I need a second plane. So the money's run out and with no

immediate prospects of making a living flying, she sold her plane. And yes? I just, isn't I'm funny that she's, she holds a world record for flying. And she can't get work. I know. Yeah, can't get a job as a pilot. Yeah. That seems strange. But I want to, how much sort of work was there for flying back then? Yeah, and how much of it is, hey, I can go real high. I'm like, that's great. Yeah, but can you get to the destination?

Yeah, great. If it's real high in the sky. Yeah, if your destination is the moon. See, that cloud, I can fly through it right now. Easy, no worries. Watch me. Watch me. Are you watching? What we really need to do is take a photo of this truck. So, if you could do that, can I do it from really far away? No. No, no, from really high up. No. It's hard making a living man. So, she sells her plane and then her parents finally get divorced and she and her mother

then set out on a trip across the country starting in California and ending up in Boston. Wow, that's a big trip. Right trip! She literally is trying to tick off every stage. She's been everywhere. It's wild. And before the trip and during the trip she underwent more operations on her sinus as she continued to have issues and was in pain

from that nasty bout of Spanish flu. Right, so you're just constantly having... Sinuses... Yeah, I don't really understand the sinus. That's the thing that expands. Is that on the side of your head or the side of your nose? All up here, your nose and... Oh, that would be a pain in the arm.

But you know, when you've got a cold or something, sometimes you sort of get headaches and stuff too. It's all around. It's a pressure thing. It's your eyes hurt. And I imagine flying very, very high and unpressurized plane. Yeah. It affects that quite a lot. And it's before antibiotics.

So they just, they do these weird operations. It didn't really work. And apparently a few times even later on in her life, she'd be in the plane, but she'd have like a little drainage tube up her nose, trying to help with the pressure. It was really bad. I wonder, you know how it's interesting to think back to those operations,

at the time would have been state of the art, but they just had it medical, science had it wrong. What are the things we're doing now? Where it's gonna be looked back upon, it's like, that is not the way you solve back pain. Yeah. I'm always worried about stuff like laser hair removal. Right.

I'm like, if I find out one day that that causes skin cancer, I'm like that's- There was an episode of the Simpsons Weather in the future and Ned Flanders is blind because he had laser eye surgery. And he's like, yeah, we didn't realize at the time, but a few years later our eyes just all fell out. I think it was maybe the least they married up soon anyway, it doesn't matter

Oh, does it want to be grand yeah, I remember Um, I remember that episode. I remember Lisa getting married one of my favorite lines ever is you grant saying to a future Lisa Currently so the time I was a she was he was back and out the Simpsons as a family and she was taking a bit of, has, no, no, no, you're like a beautiful flower who grew out of a pot of dirt. So nice. That's a great line. It's so beautiful. So in 1925, she again enrolled in Columbia University but was forced to abandon her studies

due to limited finances. So Mum couldn't afford her tuition anymore so she bailed out of university. Like Plains Tower? Yes she bailed out. Lira, finances unlimited flynances. Wow. I don't know anymore, just throwing caution of the wind here. Amelia Rare, card style, air heart, Aroneck, card style. That's two-faced in Batman. All right, having a little break, trophy. Yeah, we'll see how long it took. I had an iced coffee over here. Okay. And I'm off-. Woo! What'd you have before that ice coffee? Pine of beer? Yeah, okay.

And what have you eaten today? Not a lot. Yep, okay. Makes sense. Wait, now what did I have? I had some porridge. That it. And some toast with avocado.

Mmm, yum. What is your life? Have a fucking meal. A thing's that bad, man. And a spinach and ricotta roll. Oh, here we go. And a roast. That's a snack.

It does your car. Your order is out. You eat enough food for the day, but you just don't have it in the correct order. You have the roast for breakfast. Yeah, the rice for breakfast. Yeah, rice for breakfast. I had a paris snack. All my hours are all out of whack at the moment.

And I had that happen yesterday where I sort of had all these weird wishy-washy meals throughout the day. It's hungry, got home about midnight, made a big plate of pasta, basically in bed within an hour. It's like that's not how to do food. So bad, yeah. You're doing it wrong. That is not good.

Not good. Yeah, I'm an idiot. Yep. So Amelia's dropped out of uni because of limited finances. So she finds employment. First as a teacher and then she did some work as a social worker for a while as well. And she settled for a while in Medford, Massachusetts. Oh, she loves it up there, Massachusetts. She does. And also, for you just see the back of the day, you didn't need to have a uni to do many jobs. Yeah. Yeah, true. I can go to uni and a social worker now. Why would anyone go to uni? Why would you go? Why do we go now? Hmm. Well, I've been asking that for a while now. Well, Dave, if he followed through this Dr. of podcasts that might have made some sense.

Thank you. But in city as a theater degree. Yeah. And the master of global communications. I'm whatever that means. I'm definitely using my criminology degree. Yeah, my journalism's coming in handy. Yeah, Matt takes a black line into every room. Fingerprints. Oh, I found it was a bunch of cheers anyway. Cheers Perkins. So while she's living in Medford, she maintained her interest in aviation, becoming a member of the American Aeronautical Society's Boston chapter,

and was eventually elected its Vice President. Oh, VP. VP. She flew out of Denison Airport in Quincy, Massachusetts, and helped finance its operation by investing a small sum of money. So she's still flying, but I think she's flying for like other people. I don't think she has her own plane. She's still flying, but I think she's flying for like other people. I don't think she has her own plane. What? She's a bother. She also flew the first official flight out of Denison Airport in 1927, and along with acting as a sales representative for Kiner Aircraft in the Boston area,

she wrote local newspaper columns promoting flying, and as her local celebrity grew, she laid out plans for an organization devoted to female flyers. That'll come back up later. Oh, she's done a lot of jobs. She's like crazy passionate about flying though. And she like, she slots it in everywhere she can.

She loves it. Do you think she loves it? Do you think she loves it? Do you think she'll be dull to talk to? Because she talks about it's flying? 100%. Yeah. Look at her party, be like, oh no, Amelia's coming over. Oh no, oh no, oh no.

Oh hi! It's like she's so impressive, but like, wait a minute. Say, you name Lana? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she'd probably be a bit much. That, she loves it, and respect.

Now do you guys remember another pilot called Charles Lindemberg? Oh, I remember Charles Lindbergh. Lindbergh, does that say Lindbergh? Because Lindbergh is less famous cousin with a very similar name. Yes, you remember Charles Lindbergh's cousin, Charles Lindbergh? Oh yes. Well, all right, Dwarf, Dave.

Dwarf, giant dwarfs. I mean, you're usually the one to pick on me for saying things, but I do appreciate you coming to my aid this time. Thank you, hey guys, I'm happy to be ganged up upon. I just could not have my reputation out there with me not correcting you. Let me know. Can I have your tower, Dave?

I'm not. Looking now with the dicky hands. It's a Dwarf Tower. Anyway, so Charles Lent, Charles Lentberg solo flight across the Atlantic back in 1927 a woman called Amy guest Expressed interest in being the first woman to fly or be flown across the Atlantic Ocean great stipulation How good is that? I'm going to fly well somebody else could drive me from flying me, I guess. That's how I want to make records. Being passenger. Yes.

She decided that the trip was too perilous for her to undertake, and she offered a sponsor of the project suggesting that they find another girl with the right image. Why? So they did a bikini contest. Yeah. It was a miss Atlantic Ocean contest. Yeah, it was a miss Atlantic Ocean contest. While at work one afternoon in April of 1928, Earhart got a phone call from Captain Hilton H. Rayleigh. Great name. That's fantastic. Who asked her, would you like to fly the Atlantic?

H.H.H. And she said, hmm, let me think about a Yip. She said, Whoa, she punked it. Whoa. How long was that punk? That's a short punk. Yeah, he was like, absolutely. Yeah, you can think about it. Oh, you got me.

I'm sorry, what have you, have you got me here? By a greener, the thing I ask you to do. Oh, well, you got me. Oh, no, I got got it. So anyway, she travels to New York to be interviewed and met with project coordinators, including a publisher by the name of George Putnam. He'll come up again later too.

Putnam another great name. Loving all these names. Soon she- That's not New York in New York, is it? New York, yes. Lonely, mo. Loving all these names. George Putnam.

Putnam. Goody Putnam, one of the, uh, Christmas characters. I thought I'd need the name Putnam. Anyway. Put it back. Goody, bring it back. Bring it back.

So after, uh, being interviewed and, uh, that whole process she was selected to be the first woman on a transatlantic flight as a passenger. What's the interview? Can you sit on a plane? Yes, you're higher. Yeah, done. Will you fit in the seat? Yes, great. So the wisdom at the time was that such a flight was too dangerous for a woman to conduct herself. She can't do it. But they said she could be in charge of the flight log. So you can organize the snacks. You can do the admin. Like logs of wood. Women love admin. Yes. Was there some sort of a fire powered plane? Yes. She was shoveling logs at the back. I actually do love admin though. Yeah, love a spreadsheet. Oh, I love a spreadsheet. Okay. Oh, let me use a few of those, buddy.

Give me that. Oh, give me that Google calendar. Oh, Google calendar. That's called a code of you, you barely believe it. Of that, bug of the organist. Yeah. Such a Virgo. Virgo season.

Anyway, so. Why an I more recognize them? Because you're a piece of shit. Right, I'm a piece of shit Virgo. Thank you. why an I more recognize then Because you're a piece of shit. Brian I'm a piece of shit. Thank you a piece is shit. I think she's Is that a pun on the ice? God that I thought you were going on a timeout. Yeah It's good to remind him so on June 17 1928 They took off from Trepacy Harbor, Newfoundland. I always say it wrong, but a Canadian friend told me how to say it. It looks like Newfoundland, but it's not Newfoundland.

It's now found now. How now, Newfoundland? Newfoundland. And the plane, guess what the plane was named. Think about the three of us. What's our best quality? Oh, sexy. I was also gonna say sexual chocolate.

Okay, the plane was called friendship. You pervert. Okay. Oh, no kinking shaming. I'm not kinking shaming. I'm just saying, we're friends. Earlier in this very episode, you retracted friend and changed it to colleague. They should have called it the colleague.

The colleagues. That sounds classy. Oh! The flying briefcase. A little plane called friendship. And accompanying her on the fly, well, really she's accompanying them, isn't she? But anyway, also on the fly. Also on the fly.

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melee airheart has been mentioned on the sims of the, but I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe you want the dolls, or you know when there was a little. Yes, yeah, the Barbie. Well, at least a line, huh? Was there something to do with that? Maybe. I'm sure that it gets rough.

Anyway, doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I will not Google it. I also think it was a serious, anyway, doesn't matter. So he doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I will not Google it. I also think it was a serious reason. You're literally Googling it now.

Surprise, Judge. When someone was on trial. Yeah, okay. Anyway, so on the flight was pilot Wilma Bill Stultz and co-pilot and mechanic Louis Slim Gordon. And Wilma is a man And Wilma is a man. Wilma is a man. Bill, his name is Bill.

Bill, because it'd be funny if you're going to be the first female passenger on the plane. Now, meet your pilot, this female. Yeah, she's had two weeks of lessons. I mean, it's like, no, no, I am really good at this. Yes, but Wilma's had two weeks lessons. From a man. Did you learn from a man? No.

That's right. So approximately 20 hours and 40 minutes later, they touched down at Burry Point in Wales. That's in the United Kingdom. Wow, a different continent. Huge. 20 hours, 40 minutes. That's a long flight. When interviewed after landing, she said, still stood all the flying.

Had to. I was just baggage, like a, still stood all the flying, had to. I was just baggage like a sack of potatoes. Had to. But then she added, maybe someday I'll try it alone. Oh, I love it. But it says, um, when the stills Gordon and Earhart flight crew returned to the United States, they were greeted with a ticket tape parade along the canyon of heroes in Manhattan,

followed by a reception with President Calvin Coolidge at the White House. Wow, not enough ticket tape parades these days, and I just say, ticket tape. Cannot remember the last one I went to. God, it's fun to say, though, ticket tape. Ticket tape, ticket tape, ticket tape, tape tape.

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So they called her Lady Lindy because they were both pilots. Okay. Makes a lot of sense. But yeah, basically. And his wife's like, um, sorry. Yeah. I am lady Lindy. I really got to, I really put my hand up there. Um, I'll stop you right there. So she's, um, she's growing more and more famous and popular. I mean you don't get a ticket for a ride unless you're famous and popular. You don't. So in 1928, she wrote a book about aviation, of course she did, because all she'd probably talked about, and her transatlantic experience,

and the book was called 20 hours, 40 minutes. They weren't got a naming books back then, were they? They had all the options then. 20 hours, 40 minutes. Hmm. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone wasn't taken. 20 hours, 40 minutes. Harry Potter and the philosopher's stone wasn't taken. She could have called it. You could have that.

Anything, you know. So many options. I was just trying to give another Harry Potter and I just blanked. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. That was also available. Yeah. Oh, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's stone. Oh.

Yeah, different, very different. I would have called it fly. Yeah, you probably she probably could have had that back then. No one else had thought of that. You would have called it fly. Yeah, flying. thing you can tear out in general paper or a poem. Perfect. It's just a page. That's fun. So, she puts out a book and it was published by George Patnam. Goody Patnam's husband. And he heavily promoted her through a book and lecture tour and product endorsements. She was like a big celeb.

Not enough lecture tour is either these days. Yeah. She also, I'm pretty sure she had like a clothing celeb. Not enough lecture to us either these days. Yeah, I'm pretty sure she had like a clothing line for a while there. Not enough clothing lines these days. It was so, she was huge. So she actually actively became involved in the promotions, especially with women's fashion. Fashion. Fashion.

Now I'm interested. So for years she'down her own clothes. But now, she contributed her input to a new line of women's fashion that embodied a sleek and purposeful, yet feminine look. Yeah, because you don't want to slake in purposeful. Oh, that's very manly. Oh, it's very manly. And men are wearing this as what's going on.

Oh, and feminine. There we go. I think God, nice twist on an old classic. That's the trifecta. I wanna look sleek, pervassal, infeminine. Was it all just clined, clined, flying, inspired clothes? It was like leather jackets, aviators. Apparently it was a lot of linen and stuff

that wouldn't really crease. So you could pack it easily, I guess. That's a good idea. It is a good idea. It was all made out of parachute material. Parachute pants. And... Parachute, she was wearing parachute pants.

Sleep. You look like parachute pants. Feminine. So these celebrity endorsements helped her finance her flying. Basically, she would just like take all the money and then just put it back into flying. So she accepted a position as Associate Editor at Cosmopolitan magazine. What?

She's really branched out working with Art of Buttrot. What do you reckon she did while she was at Cosmopolitan? What do you reckon she, what kind of articles? Shields section. Yeah, obviously, Dolly Dockdap. Oh, that's hard. She wasn't asked for it. Yes, that's it.

That's what her column was called. Yeah. 14,000 foot high club. No one's got that high yet. She turned it. It was called. Yeah. No. 40,000 foot high club. No one's got that high yet. She turned it. It was actually called fucking and flying. That was a different time. F and F.

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planes. Right. She loves planes. Yeah, she really sounds like she's got a passion for flying. And all things are the actual. How strange we only remember these days for her fashion life yeah or this is like powerful that's her fragrance oh dear I did well good on us or a name before looking her up she was mentioned in a substance episode episode 432 but anyway her name's spelled E-I-R yeah so even reading it now I keep going to say ear heart. But it's ear, is there heart?

So, also in 1929, a lot happening for her. George Putnam divorced his wife and started a courtship with Amelia. No. But being... Goodie Putnam! But being the independent, progressive, and modern lady that she was, she was hesitant. He proposed six times before she finally gave in. I love that.

Whoa, her down. It was a different time. There's a lot more wearing down of people. Oh, hi! Take a hint. It's strange. She said no. You reckon you get to five and you think, I'm out of the woods here.

He's never going to ask you. And five times. No. Six-time bangs. She's not gonna ask you in five times. No six time bangs He's not expecting it, but you have to say yeah, was it the it was the thing it was expected You've got to you got to play this dance. It's like an old school thing or I reckon you should just have a chat to each other After you say no the first time maybe have a chat. He's like, oh, I'll get you next time All right, all right, Mr. Hutton. He will be like all rejected and said talk to him. I'd move cities. Oh God yeah.

Oh, yeah. I'd move countries. But the problem is you move cities and she moves around so much you probably end up in the same place. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no aged after the sixth after a substantial amount of hesitation. Yes. And they got married on the 7th of February 1931 in Puntnam's mother's house in Connecticut. Romantic. Hmm. Mums house. That's a new state. Seriously, I would love someone to go back and tick off how many states. It'll work right now about 15. She's covered so many. She referred

to her marriage as a partnership with Jewel Control control and on the day of their wedding. So she put it into airplane parlance. Of course she did. Flying with him, I mean, being married to him. It's like a biopartanorship. On their wedding day, she presented George with a handwritten letter and she wrote, I want you to understand I shall not hold you to any medieval code of faithfulness to me, nor shall I consider myself bound to you similarly. She said, I may have to keep some place where I can go be by myself now and then. For I cannot guarantee to endure at all times the confinement of even an attractive cage. Oh, yeah. Nice one. But again, you think you'd mention that before the marriage. Yeah, not on the day.

I'm not sure that you're both understanding how it's going to be. He's still my own person. Yeah, we're married now, great. Also, these are the rules. What, sorry, what? The following of the cage is full on language. An attractive cage, though. Yeah.

Don't try and trap me. So it's enterazic because that's what you would, who flies is trapped in a cage right? Wow like a little canary that we know I'm thinking back to a different podcast we recorded today. Sorry You your pet Oh, yeah, okay, you were sitting there. I was sitting here. Yeah, true Sorry, out of that out or don't I was sitting here. Yeah, true. I've done it. I've done it. Sorry. Out of that out.

Or don't. Who cares? Listen, don't you know who I am to get the contact? It's late and this comes out tomorrow. It's going up exactly as it is. Exactly. Oh, no. So tomorrow, Justin Iroh on Josh L's don't you know who I am podcast?

Very funny time with Broden Kelly and Evan Monro Smith, the second banana on the Prime Nates. It was an absolute dream team. So good. Matt and I got to do a lot of Broden impressions. Oh, Broden Kelly. Not, no, I love Broden. I love Broden, some really, really hard to do.

Broden, bro, bro, bro. Looking forward to it. So yeah, she's like, she's not really keen on marriage, but she's married. And her ideas on marriage are pretty liberal for the time as she believed in equal responsibilities for both breadwinners. She believed in separate cages. She pointedly kept her own name rather than being referred to as Mrs. Puntnam. I love that. Because it was already Mrs. Puntnam out there.

Yeah, true. What do you partner? Puntnam is a good name, but airhards better. Airhards way better. And when the New York Times, as per the rules of its style book, insisted on referring to her as Mrs. Putnam she laughed it off she's like that's not me I'm Miss Earhart I don't I wouldn't I don't think I'd change it and would you change name day or Jess I don't think it's really a problem for you what do you anyone can do it people do it yeah true that's a new age it's a

it's probably a bigger statement for men to change and then it is for women to not change it now. Yeah, I just had it to not change my name. People are like, why are you telling me the same thing? Ding ding ding, you're like, speech, speech. Oh yeah, so thanks to come with, obviously we got through all the formalities of wedding,

but I wanted to say, yes, I've come to a decision, I'm gonna keep my name. Oh my God, yes, I've come to a decision, I'm gonna keep my name. Oh my God, Davey. Yeah. Looking at my cue card, pause for a pause. No? Okay. Okay, interesting.

You're all sick, fucks. Okay. For not supporting me. Yeah, I get it. You want to keep me in my cage? Well, no. I like Perkins. Perkins is great, so.

And it's my name also. My partner's surname is Simpson, so I'd be Jessica Simpson.kins is great, so. And it's my name also. My partner's surname is Simpson, so I'd be Jessica Simpson. So that's not happening. Jessica Simpson, where did I love? I reckon Jessica Simpson is definitely on the downward spiral of Herkery and offense, Jessica.

You are definitely on the upward trajectory. You think I can be the more famous physicist? You could overtake her within 10 years If you pretend to put in that word Don't you think? Yeah, but Jessica Simpson into wiki pd8 You'd come up and it would say not to be confused With Jessica Simpson the former

Soap star pop star Right Yeah, Jessica Simpson's I imagine a lot of Alison's Won't even know who that is Bullshit Come on, Nicolashay Newly wedged

She asked if tuna was chicken or fish. She's an idiot. And I'm sure a nice person, but like an idiot. You could take it down. I could easily. You could step into those shoes. Those boots that I made for. Oh, yeah, right.

Nice. Anyway, fuck. So Amelia's too busy for a honeymoon, right? So after the wedding, straight back to work for her. Too busy, so did her husband go on honeymoon? He went to Barbados. I think it's pronounced, Abbedo. Thank you. I always get that one wrong.

Her public persona presented as gracious, if somewhat shy, and a woman who displayed remarkable talent and bravery. Which are true things of her, but on the inside, she was determined to distinguish herself as different from the rest of the world. She was an intelligent and competent pilot, pilot. But she was not a brilliant aviator. She knew that. Really? Wait, what? Okay, what's the difference? Yeah, how do you define that for us, she is.

What do you mean? Like, she's intelligent and competent. She's not brilliant. Oh, just because you said pilot and aviator, I thought you were differentiating between the two. Great pilot, terrible aviator. No, I'm just saying. You're just for a variety of, yeah. You can choose to be with a fancy with.

She's an intelligent and competent pilot, but she was not a good pilot. I mean, that's just confusing. What I mean is, she wasn't a freak of nature, she worked really hard. And her skills kept pace with aviation during the first decade of the century, but as technology moved forward and got more sophisticated and the radio navigation equipment changed, she continued to fly by instinct rather than learning a lot of the new stuff. She recognized her limitations so she continuously worked to improve her skills, but the constant

promotion and touring that she was doing never really gave her the time to get into touch. She's also in a band. Lecture touring. Is that worth it? I think so. I agree. The crowd went wild. The touring, yeah, so she could never quite fully catch up.

Oh, it's a victim of her own success. Yeah. Same with us. We're all right. We're not doing a one-ever-says. I don't have time for the podcast anymore. I'm out there just doing lecture to us. Yeah.

I'm out there telling people how to podcast. Yeah, rather than actually still podcast. Yeah, I'm just going to tell people how to. This podcast has been on all my pilot for about 150 weeks. I mean, they're like, are there unique courses in podcasting or something? Could we end up being professors? So you still podcast. Yeah, I'm just gonna go tell people how to. This podcast has been on all my pilot for about 150 weeks. Are there unique courses in podcasting or something? Could we end up being professors? I reckon we could.

I want to be called prof. Ah, prof apart. No, I'm gonna be cool. And they can just call me Jess. Ah cool. Prof Perkins. Ah, actually, that's pretty good. Ah.

Anyway. Prof Perkins of podcasting. Just giving you a little insight there and two. Our future career is. No, what she's like. Oh, perfect. Perfect. Just giving you a little insight there and two. Our future career is. No, what she's like. Oh, sorry. Yes, she is. Oh, the topic of this report.

Yeah, right, right. So she's not actually a great pilot, but she's a great lecture tourer. She's amazing. That's all I got from that. She's a good pilot, but she's not like a freak of nature. She has to work hard at it. You know, you know, some people work really hard at comedy and others are just,

freakishly good at it. Yes, we do. They're work. Not using any examples. Some people work really hard and some people are just naturally really good. That's nice. And you didn't point to me for either.

So that's offensive. But also, she's doing it in a podcast. No one knows which one was which. Yeah, no one knows that I was pointing Dave. That was just a little little stab in the room. But it's also where you were, your stab was that I work hard and you're naturally talented.

I wish that was true. Yeah, neither us work that hard. We should work. Why did we work hard? Oh my God. The world would be in our feet. God, I'd love to. I reckon we probably would have conquered company when it would have clocked it. Yeah. Instead, we're just sort of going along by instinct. Yeah, just like Amelia had real famous turn in the world. Yeah. Yeah. So she said her

sights on establishing herself as a respected aviator. Shortly after returning from her 1928 transatlantic flight, she set off on a successful solo flight across North America. By making the trip in August of 1928, she became the first woman to fly solo across the North American continent and back. So she did do it? Yeah. Pretty soon after as well. Yeah, quite soon after. Wow. So you sort of stress that she's just a competent sort of flyer, but she still did a lot of first. So was it, what was it? It was just that she was more adventurous than others or. Yeah, maybe. She's back to herself, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Is in like what, what drove her to do things?

Yeah, maybe she was just like, I'll do it. It wasn't like she goes, I'm the know, is in like what what drove it to do things. Yeah, maybe she was just like I'll do it It wasn't like she goes I'm the only one who can do this. She was just one I One of the buddy I think that's probably a lot of pioneers. I like that potentially as well right they Yeah, they beat down new paths and then others follow. Yeah, I guess so yeah That was pretty pretty big bold call it is So yeah. That was pretty, pretty big bold call, it just matters. No, but I know you mean. It's still a soft, good podcast.

Yeah, welcome back to the Fools of Europe. Dave just removed the loudest jacket in the world. I reckon that no one would have heard that because it was pretty, definitely done. Definitely. Before Dave started joining to the side, but completed it right into the mic. So that's for those who heard that. That was... Don't remember that happening?

He starts to be like, the quietest part of the yawnt was... Oh, bo! What did you say to pick up on that? Did you... Is this thing on? Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! And what is it the fashion line? I thought it was flying planes. Yeah, but she She did she did it. She did that Okay, well two more two more things before I get to the big thing and then there's more so Yep, okay

So in the year after she did the North America trip She entered the first Santa Monica to Cleveland women's air derby Darby Placing third so it's like a it's a race. It's our ace in 1931 she Powered a pitticane PCA to I don't know what any of that is, but she set the world Alpitude record she bet on a monopoe Wow that I'd be impressed. I'd be impressed 14,000 feet on a motorbike. Wow, I'd be impressed.

I'd be impressed. 14,000 feet on a motorbike. She got that ramp out again. 18,000 feet. 18,415 feet. Could you put them in a subway, so? It's about 18,415 of them. What?

Put logs. Her tail obviously is flying high, because in the race she's only third But the the height she's number one all the time right that's that's her talent, right sure And also yeah her son is a wonder if that's if that's coincidence What do you mean that her son is constantly blowing up and she's also hits the highest altitude I would be worse wouldn't it? Yeah, that's what I mean. Is that why she has these problems? Because she's always...

No, it was because she got sick. Right. Not connected at all. Not connected. What a silly thing for me to have said. I apologize to her, especially the doctors listening. And during this time as well, she became involved with the 99s, which is an organization of female pilots

advancing the cause of women in aviation. She had called the meeting of female pilots in 1929, following the race that she was in. And she suggested the name based on the number of original members. And she later became the organization's first president in 1930. I imagine that would make you furious. Why? The original amount of members was 99. Like, you found one more. Somebody said, I was thinking of the number 30 and I was like, no, I'm so fine with the year 99.

Get one more. Danny, if you have a friend, get her in. Oh, but the hundreds wouldn't sound very good. I like the 99. Yeah. That's cool. Anyway, so she was a vigorous advocate for female pilots and in

1934 there was a race the the Bendix trophy race banned women from competing and she refused Apparently she was asked to fly screen actress Mary Pickford to Cleveland as like a celebrity to be there for opening of the race And she refused to because they'd banned women from the race So she was like a real fine here. It's so strange to be there for opening of the race and she refused to because they'd banned women from the race. So she was like, real fine here. It's so strange to be banning. I just don't understand the logic of that. Well, yeah, I guess like a lot of horse racing women couldn't compete for a long time. That has said, well, we've found scientists told us that the woman's brain is not quite big enough to fly. The woman's scientists cannot handle it. I have sinus trouble and I just got to 18,000 feet last week.

No, you did, Anne. You must be a man, then. Did your husband... Well, you've got a short haircut. What are you trying to pull here, sir? Enough of that. Your name's Emilio. Anyway, so the main thing that she's probably the most famous for is her transatlantic

solo flight in 1932. So she was 34 years old at the time and it was May 20, 1932. She set off from Harbour Grace in Newfoundland. She intended to fly to Paris in a single engine plane. I mean, I've got what they are here, but I don't know any of them are. It's a plane. And she was basically trying to recreate

Charlestonburg's solar flight from five years earlier. So she's gonna go, she's aiming to fly to Paris. After a flight lasting 14 hours 56 minutes, she contended with strong, northerly winds, really icy conditions and had some mechanical problems as well. She landed not in Paris, but in a pasture north of Derry in Northern Ireland. So she was realizing she wasn't going to make it to Paris, she was having hits with mechanical issues. So she was like, I've got a land. Just landed in a field.

She landed in Northern Ireland in a field. And there was a couple of people there witnessed the plane landing and somebody a farmhand asked, have you flown far? And she said, from America. That's pretty far. It's pretty far. So she was the first woman to fly solo nonstop across the Atlantic.

So that counts, doesn't it, so it's okay? It counts. I mean, she still made it. She just didn't quite get to the exact spot that Charlie did, but she still made it across. And because of this, she received several accolades. She got the distinguished flying cross, the cross of night, of the Legion of Honor from the French government, and the gold medal of the National Geographic Society from President Hoover.

And the gold medal in Ficuscati. We just had an extra one. Yeah, an extra one. I like how France was still like, I didn't really make it here, but we want to be involved anyway. Yeah, good job. You got close, Ish. So she took on several other solo flights in the coming years. In 1935, she became the first aviator to fly solo from Honolulu to Oakland in California. And it had been attempted by many others with no success. But she had a really smooth routine flight.

She even spent some time in her final hours relaxing and listening to the broadcast of the Metropolitan Opera from New York. She's listened to the radio. Wow. Having a great time. The same year she flew solo from LA to Mexico. And I mean that's less impressive depending on where in Mexico you land of course. Yeah, it's tier one south of the border. Yeah know if it's a lot of fun. I don't know if it's a lot of fun. I don't know if it's a lot of fun. I don't know if it's a lot of fun. I don't know if it's a lot of fun.

I don't know if it's a lot of fun. I don't know if it's a lot of fun. I don't know if it's a lot of fun. I don't know if it's a lot of fun. I don't know if it's a lot of fun. I don't know if it's a lot of fun. I don't know if it's a lot of fun. I don't know if it's a lot of fun. in New Jersey were at concern because she had to be careful not to taxi into the crowd. There's so many people and they're just standing and we're like, the plane's coming! What? Or us?

This is a mate, a couple of my closets coming! Wow! I'm about to touch the plane with my face! I'm gonna be able to dance! Face plane man. face-plane man. Later in 1935, Amelia Earhart joined Perdoo University as a visiting faculty member to council women on careers and as a technical advisor to its department of aeronautics. But she still had a goal she wanted to achieve. She said one flight which I most wanted to attempt, a circumnavigation of the globe, as near its waistband as could be. But for this new venture, she was gonna need a new plane. Mm.

So the following year, a Lockheed Electra 10E was built at Lockheed Aircraft Company to her specifications, which included extensive modifications to the fuselage. How good is that word? Fantastic word. Oh, it's fantastic. Have a go.

Fustible. Oh, so good. How about a decilable. So, by this stage, well, I imagine she's making a comfortable living and she's like a celebrity wallet now. Yeah, I think she's doing fine. And she's really happy moving together. Apart from John Travolta, there's not really any celebrity

pilots. I mean, the guy from Iron Maiden. Oh, yeah, that's her brooch stick. The brooch stickinson. Um, he's where gold plated diapers. It's a different brooch stickinson. Oh, how many brooch stickins is that? Who's the gold plated diaper brooch?

That's Christopher Walken in the Cal Bell sketch. Oh, fantastic. The The boost Dickinson. Important thing to bring up. So Amelia chose Captain Harry Manning as her navigator. He was also a skilled pilot and radio operator who knew Morse code. The original plan was a two person crew. Amelia would fly and Manning would navigate. But during a flight across the country that included Amelia Hutt, Manning and Amelia's husband George, Amelia was flying using landmark. So she kind of knew where she was going. So she's like, almost like she didn't need a navigator. But I imagine that when you're flying over the ocean that is

a bit different. Very hard to do exactly you're flying over the ocean, that is... We're different. Very hard to do. Exactly. But we're... Alright, I haven't seen the awful tower for a while. Alright, we're heading in the right direction. There's a few tests, so she and Putnam knew where they were. Manning did a navigation piece.

So he was navigating. But that alarmed Putnam because Manning's position put them in the wrong state. They were flying close to the border, so the navigation era was minor, but Putnam was a bit concerned. He didn't quite trust this guy's navigation skills. So sometimes later he arranged a flight to test Manning's navigational skills at night, and under poor navigational conditions Manning's position was off by 20 miles. Well, some consider it reasonable because it's within an acceptable error of 30 miles, but partner wanted a better navigator. So they got a guy called Fred Noon Rombord, who was subsequently chosen as

second navigator. So the original plan was for Noon and to navigate from Hawaii to Howland Island, which is a pretty difficult part of the flight. And then Manning would continue with Earhart to Australia, and then she would proceed on her own for the remainder. I don't know why. She's dropping people off on the way. I guess so. I mean, how they getting back. There are other planes. Just parachuting out. Yeah. Off you go. Bye. Parachuting pants out. The golden girls are over there. They were parachuting pants. I think of the golden girls I think parachute pants. They go. So their first attempt, which tells you how it's going to go.

Great. Was on March 17, 1937, and Shana crew flew the first leg from Oakland, California to Honolulu, Hawaii. But due to some technical and mechanical issues with the plane, the aircraft needed to be serviced in Honolulu, and the flight resumed three days later. But during the take-off, there was an uncontrolled ground loop, the forward landing gear collapsed, both propellers hit the ground, and the plane skidded on its its belly and a portion of the runway was damaged. Not the runway. Not the runway. But there was a little, there was a scratch in the bitumen. But there's a bit of the cause of what happened was a little bit controversial. Some witnesses

said that they saw a tie blow. Others say it was pilot error. Ooh. Big difference. How in a witness now was the pilot's fault? Yeah, exactly. For my distance. I reckon the pilot stuffed up and popped the tyre. Yeah. Do a burnout. Oh, don't actually do it.

Shit. Do a flip. Though no one was seriously hurt, the plane was pretty badly damaged. The plane was a little embarrassed. The plane had to be shipped back to California for extensive repairs. So in the interim, Ehart and Putnam Securet are additional funding for a new flight. They go for a speed record too. It takes three months to get the plane back. I'm so going to go to's six months. Great, we could do that in a ship in like six weeks. Cool, yeah, great.

The stress of the delay and the grueling fundraising appearances left Amelia exhausted. By the time the plane was repaired, weather patterns and global wind changes required alterations to the flight plan. So this time she was gonna fly east. So she flew to Miami, Florida, and then she... You stayed.

She and Noonan. Oh yeah! Took off on June 1st for Miami with much fanfare and publicity. The plane flew towards Central and South America, turning East for Africa. Turn East! I love that idea. Like you've got a follower road in the air. Yeah. Whoa. Okay, in 300 meters 10 left. Where we're going, we don't need rolls. From there, the plane crossed the Indian Ocean and finally touched down in La in New Guinea on 29th of June, 1937. So they're done about 22,000 miles of their journey and they had 7,000 to go and that 7,000 would take place over the Pacific Ocean. So in Lays she contracted dysentery with lasted for several days and while she recuperated several necessary adjustments were made to the plane. A toilet was

in the store. Her seat was just turned into a toilet. Is dysentery this shit yourself? Oh, like so badly. They just cut a hole in the floor. Yeah, it's really bad. Oh. Are you saying, are you, are you, are you a dysentery? I haven't had dysentery, no. But it's, it was like, it killed people in the war.

Right. People died from dysentery. Right. I feel like there was dysentery maybe in the, Shackleton episode. Yeah. Also, you get people together like that, you're not eating properly. I feel like there was dysentery maybe in the Shackleton episode. Yeah. I've seen you get people together like that, not eating properly.

You just shit yourself to death. What a way to go. And they didn't have hydrolite back then. Right. You know? They only had gastroite. Do you actually get an ad for hydrolite? Because I love that shit.

I'm up for that. Well, I'll hold my judgement until payment is made. Oh, yeah. I could be swayed. Is that good? I don't know. Yeah. Does that work?

So anyway, they're making a few adjustments. Apparently they packed away the parachutes. There'd be no need for them. Oh, no. No. You would not mention that unless that came up again. Keep the parachute pants on. No, I just made it. Yeah mention that unless that came up again. Keep the parachute on. No, I just made it. Yeah, yeah, keep your pants on.

Come on, Betty White, I mean, silly. So their plan was to head for Howland's Island, which was two and a half thousand miles away, situated between Hawaii and Australia. And it's like a flat sliver of land. It's only about the sliver of land. It's about 6,500 feet long, 6,800 feet wide, and no more than 20 feet above the ocean. Can you even land on that? Apparently, they're can. But how do you find it? It's in the middle of the ocean. Is manning there or she buys

self-now? No, Fred's with her now. The better the better navigator is with her, but it's still going to be really hard. They even said like it will be hard to spot, to distinguish it from similar looking cloud shapes. It could look like a cloud. Quick land on that cloud. Oh God. We can't, do we skip over the Australian bit? Is this a place in Australia where she landed?

There's probably a little plaque somewhere we could go. No, she's heading that way now. Wow. Yeah. she's heading, she's in New Guinea and she's heading to Australia. Right. Via Howland Island, which is a sand bank by the sounds of it. Slipper. So to meet this challenge, she and Noonan had an elaborate plan with several contingencies. In case of overcast guys they had no rate oh sorry they did have radio communication with a US Coast Guard vessel called a taska. A taska. Which was a taska. They were all off jump. And the ship a taska was stationed off Halondon so it was kind of nearby so they had radio contact. Look for the ship I task it was stationed off Halondon, so it was kind of nearby.

So they had a radio contact. Look for the ship. Look for the ship. And then they could communicate with them. All right. So we've got that. Sadly, there was also ships' partners to cloud. It was very confusing.

They could also use their maps compass and the position of the rising sun. Well, that's Plan B. Use the map. Use the map. Got a compass, where's the sun? They also had an emergency plan to ditch the plane if need be, believing the empty fuel tanks would give the plane some buoyancy, as well as time to get into their small inflatable raft and just wait for rescue.

It was also time to get into their swimwear. Yeah, good. I thought you were saying a band in the plane in the air and just flying themselves. We'll take it from here. We assume we can do something. Has anybody checked? So they set out from lay on the 2nd July 1937, heading east towards Howland Island. Though the fly seemed to have a well-thought-out plan, several early decisions led to the grave consequences later on. Oh, graves are bad words.

Why would you mention that unless someone was going to go in the grave? Not watery grave consequences, actually. So they left behind radio equipment with shorter wavelength frequencies, presumably to allow more room for fuel canisters. But this equipment could broadcast radio signals further distances. And due to inadequate quantities of high octane fuel, the electric carried about 1,000 gallons,

which was 50 gallons short of full capacity. So didn't have enough fuel. The electric is running to difficulty, almost from the start. Witnesses of the takeoff reported that a radio antenna may have been damaged. It also believes that due to the extensive overcast conditions, Nune and might have had extreme difficulty navigating. If that wasn't enough, it was later discovered

that they were using maps that may have been inaccurate. So they're not off to a great start. And according to the map from McDonald's or something? It came with a burger. It was in a happy meal. According to experts, evidence shows that the charts used by Noonan and Earhart placed Hal and Isle and Danilly six miles off its actual position. Right and it's about what a third of a mile wide. It's so small. That's really off. They can't find anything. So on the, so they left it about 12.30 p.m. on July 2nd. Wait, p.m. That's just afternoon. Yeah. But then it talks about the morning of the same day. So maybe they mean a.m. Do they leave it mid-night? But did they cross a time zone?

Maybe. Oh. On the morning of the same day at 7.20am, she reported her position, placing the lecture on a course at 20 miles southwest of the Nakumanu Islands. At 7.42, the atasca, atasca, what do I say the plane was? Atasca. That's the ship? Yep. The ship, thank you.

Picked up this message from Earhart, says we must be on you, but we cannot see you. Fuel is running low, been unable to reach you by radio. We are flying at a thousand feet. The ship replied, but there was no indication that she'd heard them. The flyers, last communications were at 843, though the transmission was marked as questionable,

it's believed that Earhart and Nunean thought they were running along the North-South line. However, Nunean's chart of Halens position was off by five nautical miles. So the... I think that's... Nunean miles are quite big too, I don't know. I think it's a lot.

That's a lot. Why do they do that, Dave? Why not just have miles? I couldn't tell you what. I don't know either. Why don't you didn't ask me, but. I don't know why I thought Dave would know. Now, because Dave knows everything,

he just has these weird facts in his head, but he let us down this time. Let's look into it. I think it was just because he said, not a comeile there longer, and I went, yeah, as we all know, obviously. And why is that again?

So the ship released its oil burners in terms to signal to the plane? I guess pre flares. Yeah, right. But they didn't, you know, the plane didn't see them or they didn't hear anything from them. So when the ship realized that they'd lost contact, they began an immediate search, because this is a Coast Guard ship. So despite the efforts of 66 aircraft and nine ships, an estimated $4 million rescue authorized

by President Franklin D. Roosevelt. She's moved through some presidents. I know, hasn't she? That's what happened when time passes. Yeah, weird. The fate of the two flyers remained a mystery. The official search ended on July 18, 1937. But Putnam financed additional search efforts,

working off tips of naval experts and even psychics in an attempt to find his wife. In October 1937, he acknowledged that any chance of air heart and noon and surviving was gone. And the following year, January 5th, air heart was declared legally dead by the superior core emulsangilus. The road. I.

I. I. Is there another twist coming? Nope. I did not know that's how it ended. It is still a mystery. Really? People claim to all the time be like, these are the bones of Amelia.

When you Google heard there's articles from like 12 hours ago, stuff's happening now. Yeah, three weeks ago, there was a photo that people believe that they could see her playing in the background. Oh, right. Well, I've got a couple of... From the time, or she's still flying. She's still going, she can't land. She hasn't found the... The brand girl who flies alone. She's still going, she can't land. She hasn't found the... The brand girl who flies alone. She is a ghost. Go ahead and speak me out, it's late at night. So yeah, it's still a mystery,

and there's a couple of different theories. I'm nearly done. Couple of theories, well there's heaps actually, there's lots of conspiracy theories about what happened to them, but the biggest two theories, one is that the plane that they were flying in was ditched or crashed and the two perished at sea, that seems to make sense.

Several aviation and navigation exports, exports, experts. Support this theory, concluding that the outcome of the last leg of the flight came down to poor planning and worth execution. Brutal feedback. I mean, they're dead guys. Can we care a bit of a more constructive way? Come on. Good effort, captain. Yeah. That catches a ward. Well, they would have left beautiful corpses. Let's take some company. Not that we found them. But yeah, they thought, well, they probably just ran out of fuel because they didn't apparently they didn't have enough fuel anyway to make it. They were never going to make it. But the other another theory is that they might have flown without radio transmission for some time Another theory is that they might have flown without radio transmission for some time,

landing at uninhabited in like a small, a tiny island inside of a reef in the Pacific Ocean. But even if they'd survived that, they would ultimately die there because nobody could find them anyway. And that theory is based on several on-site investigations that have turned up artifacts such as improvised tools, bits of clothing, and an aluminium panel and a piece of plexiglass that is the exact width and curvature of the electro window. That sounds like pretty good evidence. That feels like that's pretty good, but they've still haven't been able to get solar. So there's an idea that they might have lived there for a while. Maybe, if that's who these tools were, but no idea.

It's wild, and it just keeps going. There was another theory that suggested she in Fred working as spies. Yeah. I'm not a lot of meat to that theory. Here we go, I'm interested in this. The little spying on that island. They were spying on the Japanese, I think.

That makes sense. Pick the most famous woman on the planet and make her a spy. Make her a spy. In November 2006, the National Geographic Channel aired episode two of the undiscovered history series about a claim that air-heart survived the world flight, moved to New Jersey, changed her name, remarried, and became Irene Bollum. And this claim has had originally been raised in a book called Amelia Earhart Lives, based on the research that somebody else had done. And Irene Bollum,

was a banker in New York during the 1940s. She denied being a Amelia. Are you a millionaire heart? She would. She filed a lawsuit requesting 1.5 million in damages and submitted a lengthy affidavit in which she rebeated the claims. What are the damages? Oh, subsignal, no, no. Really famous. That would be a great plan though, if it wasn't really a hard, because then you're proving that it's not you and you're getting paid for. Oh, that's a weird.

That's a sweet retirement plan. And this continues still, in August, 2019, this month, famed explorer Robert Ballard, who found the Titanic in 1985, led a research team to Nikamaro. that's not right, with the hopes of uncovering more answers about her disappearance. The search was sponsored by National Geographic and they plan to air two-hour documentary about it later in the year.

So there's still looking, and there's even a theory, in this exhibition, there's a theory, in this exhibition there's a theory that if they did learn there that noon and died, the plane floated away, Airheart lived for a few weeks on the island, but then when she did die, the three foot long coconut crabs that live there ate her body. Right. And just that's why there's not, that's why I like people, people have found bits of bones, but not like full skeleton. So the crabs have eaten it And would they they wouldn't have any way of identifying those bones DNA or anything? I guess they probably didn't have any of her

Well, I'm sure they'd have something now, but yeah, they haven't been up. There's no solid There's a lot of like it probably is But nothing solid and this happened 80 years ago. Over 80 years ago, we still don't know. It's a mystery. It's a mystery episode. A mystery episode. Oh my goodness.

And so it's crazy that she was close enough to communicate with that ship. Yeah, for a part. But then it was breaking in and out. We're pretty close. So you'd think that they might be like, looking, but then it was breaking it out. We're pretty close. So you think that they might be like looking, but I never saw anything. Yeah.

If she did think if she didn't disappear, would she still have the sort of place in history or is the disappearance a big part of her mythology? Great point. Maybe it is, yeah, because... It sounds like she did a lot of stuff. If she completed that trip. Yeah, and it seems like she was pretty close. I think that's a similar argument could be made for Charles Lindbergh, who is world famous

at the time, probably the most famous person on the planet for a period, but in the nearly 100 years since, a lot of people were remembering because of the baby kidnab. Right, yeah. So it's like an extra element to it, so she did this amazing feat and then also she disappeared. So it's like a famous for two things I guess and there's heaps to it like there's so much and there's so many different theories and you can go into a lot of detail I just sort of wanted to like I didn't know anything about her early life or You know, what else she did or why you know why she was so famous before this so

I, you know, why she was so famous before this. So there's so much more to it, but I've already talked for nearly two hours and that was. That was a great report. Just some of it. Fascinating. Insane. What a life.

What? To learn is to live. Yeah. I would have your favorite theory. I'd like to think that she lived and was an ex- lot of stuff instead. No, no, she lived on and lived a happy life. Yeah, and she just didn't want to be found.

She ended up loving life on that island. And she just sort of became friends with those coconut eating crabs and said, could you just eat some of me? So it looks like I'm dead. Oh, wow, okay. So you sort of worked in with them. Right.

What part? What would you sacrifice? Um, of her. No, of yourself. You will make me make it. That's an even harder call to make. I'd say, easy to sacrifice her left leg. Yeah, I don't know. I think

all parts of me are really important to me. Interesting. So maybe she had the similar feeling about her own maybe my appendix. Yeah, get rid of that. Tonsils. One kidney. Let the crabs eat your tonsils. Yeah, get in there. Come out. Get them out of there. Yeah, anyway, that's a good report. Great report. I don't know if I can add a non-fun fact to the end here just to clear it up. And nautical mile is larger than a regular land mile, if you will. Great.

And it is based on the circumference of the earth. Oh. So it's traveling a certain distance in there. Like on the curvature. On the curvature. That's right. It's a minute of arc on the planet Earth is to find us one nautical mile minute of arc. Yeah, traveling that arc and a minute not of time. What is a minute? No, I've time at what speed? That's weird, I don't know. I don't, I don't, don't talk to her. Well, it's also a knot is based on this as well, because a knot is a unit of speed.

If you travel at one, at a speed of one, nautical mile per hour, you were said to be traveling at the speed of one knot. That's how they work that out. You know, they say that, that ship was traveling at seven knots. That's seven nautical miles per hour. Yes, this info would work in well for your paracarcter.

Yeah, but she doesn't get it. You'd present it well. Miles Perralla. Jess, this info would work in Well for your power character. Yeah, but she doesn't get it. You'd present it well. I don't understand it. You'd present it well. Not. Oh, boy. Anyway, so there you have it.

Great work, Jessica. Thank you, Matthew. Jessica, Jessica, Simpson. Nope. Well, how's your... What has your phone gone? I wish I worked at Room of the lyrics. I don't know that song. What is it? Adam's someone.

No, no, no, let's not. Let's just do our favorite part of the show, which is a part that's dedicated to our Patreon listeners. Adam Green. Great. It's dedicated to our Patreon listeners. Adam Green. Great. So what we do at the end of every episode is we like to give back to those people who give to us. That's right. And the first section is the Fact Quotal question.

Fact Quotal question. Section. Thank you, Dave. section where on the city shambha deluxe memorial VIP level of patron you get a bunch of extra rewards including you get to vote for two of the three topics we do you get to do all the other things I get bonus episodes but you also get to give us a factor quote or a question up to you. And this week's factor quote or question comes from listener. They've helped me with the pronunciation when I'm muck it up. Jacobi Dangel. Jacobi Dangel. Thank you.

And Jacobi. Hello Jacobi. Jacobi, uh, also you get to give yourself a title. And Jacobi has given himself the title, writer, director, cinematographer, editor, producer, executive producer, and best boy of the do go on movie. Oh, it's a one man film crew. This is really handy for us as well. Real Robert Rodriguez. Means we don't have to do any of that work. Hmm. Um, and he asks a question. He's saying a question or a option. He will not do his own gaffing though. No. That's left to me.

Great. Thanks. Jacobi. Jacobi. Jacobi. So Jacobi. And Jacobi asked the question, what do you think the story was? A question usually reserved for M so at the weekly planet,

but this week it's for you. What should the do-go-on movie be about? Let me know so we can get right into pre-production. The do-go-on movie. Well, I reckon it should be like Bohemian rhapsody and sort of shows the how we came... What's our live aid? How we came to... well, we haven't got the yet all right how we came to

meet each other to start the podcast then we started getting mega successful the money went to my head we had a falling out for a bit when I go solo when does this stuff happen this is in the future soon okay if you keep interrupting me and then and then I get really hard into drugs for a bit and I realize the people I'm surrounding myself with, not good people. And then I come crawling back to you and I say, oh come on, dog on, let's be friends again and go, alright. And then we play live, hey. Whoa.

Whoa. That's a great movie. So it is, it it is just I haven't seen that but that's the movie Oh, I was having a chance, but it's heavy not no, you've got to say it Generally actually it was very good really a mixed reviews is what I've heard I liked it I've heard nothing but bad reviews really apart from this current one. Oh now I feel like an idiot Well, I'm probably listening to idiots. Yeah, oh, he did. And when the Oscar for it, Remy... My opinion was that I enjoyed it.

That's a beautiful one. Does the only opinion you should borrow about? And it was great in a cinema because it was very loud and Queen's music is great. And it was also a huge hit. And the people aren't wrong. But I was just telling you our story. I'm not talking about the hanging or absentee. Okay, well that's a great story.

I don't know if I get out a lot to that. I would pay to say it. That's what I was just telling you our story. I'm not talking about behavior abs. Okay. Well, that's a great story I don't know if we get out a lot to that. I would pay to see it What I'm saying you're your but there's got to be some sort of love interest. You're basically the Freddie Mercury character Is that man? I'm the Freddie Mercury of this podcast. Okay. Look at this big mouth David, I guess that would make you the big hair go you the big hair go Brian Brian yeah you're Brian and I'm one of the other John Deakin John Deakin John Deakin, see in a shrine Prime Minister Alfred Deakin and Deakin spelled differently. And what's the other members name? Roger Roger Roger Roger Roger Roger Roger Roger Roger Roger Roger The bond one the drummer yeah, that's me. I'm Roger. Anyway, so that answers your question great question Jacoby Jacoby

We appreciate hopefully that answers Support what is that Dave you got any other elements you were out in there? What is that Dave you got any other elements you would add in there? It's just a sex scene. I said there's gonna be some sort of love. Yeah, well, it's a sex scene where the jazz character Wakes the Dave character off from a plane. Oh playing Chris. That's exciting too We should add elements to some of the stories. We split the party Birkenwill style On the way to the stage, maybe like a spinal tap sort of homage where they can't find the stage. So we do, there's a whole section of the movie where we Birkenwil's

this journey from the green room to the stage and it takes us six months. We keep sweating the party until it's just us left and we have to eat a horse. Why is a horse backstage? I don't know. It's in our rider. Oh, normally the rider is on the horse. This time the horse is in the rider. It's almost something. It's a Roger Taylor.

I didn't say Roger. Well done. I would have got Roger. Yeah, no, I think that's good. I reckon we add in a bunch of elements. Roger Roger Roger. Well done. I would have got Roger. Yeah. No, I think that's good I reckon we add in a bunch of elements Jacobi. I think as I'm in your the writer director Etc. We don't want to do all you writing work for you, but that's the basic idea. Yeah, it's a it's who's playing us. Oh Roger Taylor I

I'm gonna have Boris becker Young Boris becker played me. You know we do the opposite. That's great. You know we do the opposite in the way that you pick an actor not a tennis player. You pick someone who's younger than you so that they can play you with your right. I've done all the opposite. I'd like a young Pat Cash to play me. Oh, he'd be good. Oh, he'd be great.

A great actor. A lot of sass. A lot of energy. A lot of headbands. Yeah, yeah. Which I can only. Blue and white checked headband. Beautiful.

Which tennis player would play? Yeah. Come on. I had a call to come over, surely. How dare you? Jeannie Bushard. Oh, you're Jeannie Bushard, old you're doing a bit of a shot. Oh sure a beautiful name beautiful name beautiful beautiful tennis player beautiful for hand. Yeah, I meant who tennis playing not her Looks because I value so much more than that. Hey, we learned the lessons of Amelia

Mm-hmm, and the 99 It's not about that from get smart Smart. And the budget would be... What's the biggest fill budget? Like 400 million is like, double it. I don't really. I'm building it again. A billion. One billion, first billion dollar movie.

Yeah. And it's still on the moon. Still shit. There is a part where we need the movie. Sorry, Jacobi. Yeah, we go to the moon. Every one of the 200 episodes, we put all the elements into the movie somehow. Somehow.

A reference is every episode. So we have to do the movie from now, because I mean, movies take a while, so there'll be other episodes in the meantime. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah This film will never end. This is our film that never ends. Have we done a Lamb Chop sing along episode yet? We will. Anyway. Thank you so much to Kobe. Am I saying that wrong? Yes.

You are saying that perfectly. The job. And the other thing we like to do is think a few of our other patrons and just normally comes up with a bit of a game for this section. What are you gonna do this week? Can we give them a first? They're the first person to do something. Yeah, that's okay. Yes, please. Are you sure? Thank you Dave? Yeah, love it. Do you 100% of Dave? I Never want to let you down. Never want to let you down. never want to let you down never want to learn your town never want to let you down never want to let you down inside you oh this is I beside you Jesus Christ oh my god can we end the episode there yeah you've

ruined we can end the podcast thank you done, goodbye. So I want to end on as a little ways. That's good. Profisive. So we'll give them firsts. Who wants to kick it off? I would like to kick it off. And thank from Port Perine, South Australia, Australia. Chris McAdougal.

Chris McAdougal is a great name. Chris McAdougal loved that name. And Chris is the first person to... Order an ice cream sundae at night and not be told that the ice cream machine is being cleaned. Dave, is this based on you? Oh my God, my biggest pet peeve! Wait, so he's ordered and then they say they can't give it to him?

No, he's ordered it and they've given it to him. He's actually got an ice cream sundae after midnight from a McDonald's. Can you believe that? Can you? they can't give it to him. No, he's ordered it and they've given it to him. He's actually got an ice cream Sunday after midnight from the McDonald's. Can you believe that? Can you? You can't. Wait, why's the Ben clean? I'm so confused. They always just say after midnight,

sorry, the machines off being cleaned. Right. Always. The only time I ever want a Sunday is after midnight. And he was the first to order one and be given his order. Oh, they said it wasn't, it isn't being clean. Yeah, they said, yeah, sure.

Why haven't bring it up? Yeah, it's weird that they brought out the cleaning schedule of the machine. No, no, he, as he was like, oh, yeah, I guess I'll get an apple pie and a small chocolate sundae thinking they'd be like, it's being clean, but they went, yep, they're worried that six dollars ten,

and he was putting, what? What? I did not bring my wallet. Chris, it's good. Chris, there you go. Congratulations, Chris. I just came here to get furious. And honestly, I reckon we've started you off. You probably got one of the shitdest ones

we'll come up with. Chris, me. No, honestly, this is probably the most impossible to ask any person's ever been given. Oh, done. Can he do at least give him a topping? Oh, yeah, caramel. Yum. It's probably. Do you know what you do? Do you know what you do? This is what I do when I'm sad. Can he do at least give him a topping? Oh yeah, Caramel. Yum!

It's strawberry- Do you know what you do? Do you know what you do? This is what I do when I'm sad. Oh, great. I'm getting a Sunday. Sometimes I drive to the McDonald's near, near-

reach my house and I just send the car park if I'm angry about something. And I get- Little what, what- Can we put this in the movie? And I get a Caramel Sunday, a little one, and some chippies, and you dip the chippies in in the Sunday and that's what you do when you're angry and sad

Is your origin story? When I'm when I make tips for the angry Sunday for the sad I do and how angry and sad do you get after midnight when you try and order that and they only give you the chips no Dave No, I scream after midnight, I'm a big girl. I should be coming a walk. What about movies? Thought I walks. You can't feed them chips.

Yeah, she fed them chips after midnight, they become gremlins. And I would also like to thank from Galban in Australia. Or I'm going gonna be next week. He said it was such confusion and then he transitioned instantly too. I'm touring the Galban in Australia. I forgot that. People in Country News at Wales or Canberra,

I'm coming up to do some shows like next week or the, yeah, next week I think. And you can find it. Details about that, and that's to a comedy.com. I'm gonna WagaWaga, I'm gonna Goalben, I'm gonna Orange, and I'm gonna Canberra. So maybe you'll be able to meet this person there.

Yes, and I would like to thank from Goalben, the home of the big Marino, Bron Livesy, Livzy, Livzy. Bron Livesy, Livzy, Livzy, Livzy, Livzy. Bron Livesy and Matt, what's Bron the first person? Okay, first alright, throw it at me again, I'm gonna empty my mind out, hard to do. And Bron Livesy is known of course for being the first person to sweep a full paddock. Wow, an entire paddock?

Yeah. A full one. Yep. Shit. Okay. Now I don't know if that means like sweep it for minds or sweep hay away. Bip, bip, bip, bip, bip, bip, bip.

Surely you'd rake it. Or mow it. Why are you sweeping it? I'm guessing it's a mind sweeper. Wow, that's an important job. Yeah. The first person to do it. Without being exploded, I understand. Yeah, that's what you mean.

Wow, brawn. No brawn. Sorry. And thank you. Doing good work there, brawn. From Gold, and I hope that I'll see you next week. May I thank some people as well? Yes, sir.

I would like to thank from Rabina in Queensland, in Australia. I was in Rabina last week. You are so worldly. On the Gold Coast. I would like to thank Ariel Woodhouse. Oh, solid name. And Ariel Woodhouse is known, of course,

for being the first person to get a perfect score in Darts. Whoa, wow. And that's that weird game where bulls eyes aren't the highest score. No, that's that one weird game where bulls eyes aren't the high school. No, that's that one weird game where bulls eyes aren't the high ever the game except for golf is going to be on the other one. It's like triple 20 or something like that. Yeah, triple 20. Wow. It doesn't make sense. That my real did it. Yeah, well done. And you should go there's a Weekly room there at the dog and parrot go there last week. You'll see me there. Oh

room there at the dog and parrot. Go there last week and you'll see me there. Oh, fun. Yeah, time travel, you're time travel. Thank you very much. Ariel Woodhouse, fantastic. Oh, three great names so far. So good. It's choose to fill for these final three. There's plenty more because I would also like to thank from Greensboro. Where I was born. Here in Victoria. Well, it's always funny, man. It's just on my passport. It's so specific, it's it's a bit.

Yeah, my sister's Mount Waveley. Greensboro. Yeah. Victoria would be fine, Melbourne. We didn't live anywhere near Mount Waveley, but that's the hospital. Where the hospital was. It's funny that that ends up on your passport forever. That's born in Mount Waveley.

Because I was born in a country town, mine is specifically to that town, which makes more sense. Yeah. But otherwise, you think if you're in Melbourne, you just call it Melbourne. My brother says like Fitzroy or something, like at least that's a trendy part of Melbourne, you know? Good for him. Dad's his horse on I think.

Mum, Maribara, country kid. Anyway, I'd like to thank from Greensboro, where Dave was born, Toby Goal. Wow. Toby Goal, great man, Toby Goal. Toby Goal wow Toby go all Toby go all First man to flip Kick flip over a tractor

Panerol paddock based Kick flip over a tractor over a tractor. Wow. You need a ramp for that. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, but he didn't have one. Oh, wow That's a big kick for you. That's huge. Yeah. How did you do that? Well, obviously what he did is practice at the Greensboro skatepark, which does exist.

That makes sense. Do you remember that from when you were born? Yeah. And I remember looking at it from the train. There it is. There it is. There it is. There it is.

Well, thank you very much, Toby. Toby, go. Congratulations on that. Pretty sick. That's sick, so cool. That's sick, so cool. We thought that was an alley. That is an alley, that's right.

That's right. Just right. You know what, we've had four Aussies. Let's have a fifth one. From Jolong in Victoria, I would like to thank Jamie Boris. Boris is such a great name. That is. Oh my God, Jamie Boris. I such a great name. That is oh my god Jamie Boris. I love it Really tickled me Boris how good is that?

Boris Jamie Boris is the first person to buy an advent calendar Whoa and not eat all of the chocolates on day one. What? Actually stuck to the system. I always did that. Did you not exist? You were the first person to do it. No, Jamie Boris was. Happy to be beaten by a Boris.

Always said that. It's weird. You have always said that now finally it makes sense. To a one, it makes sense. Yeah. Thank you, Jamie Boris. You are disciplined and we appreciate that. Yeah, good.

That's what's the point. It's just like your inspirational. Go buy a box of appreciate that. Yeah, good choice. That's just like your inspiration. Go buy a box of chocolates. I mean, I've done it a bunch of... Yes, I've jumped ahead. You've jumped ahead, Julie. Of course I have. So I had a calendar. If anything, I fell behind on purpose, just pull up a few.

That's another thing. Jamie was on time. Okay. I was also done that before when you... Oh, three in one day. Yeah. Yes, please. Yeah. And then some advent calendars on the 25th.

Oh, this excitement really is actually double chocolate on the final day, too. Oh. What an absolute treat. Wow, we've nearly made it. Your esophagus could not handle the memory. Instead of all that chocolate. Instead of spasming.

Oh, boy. How exciting. Oh, thank you, boris keep boris. Oh my god Maybe my favorite name at all time Jamie boris Can you explain to me what's so good? No, no, I mean what was the name at the start of the episode something Hazel's god Oh, yeah, I mean was it was Elvis Hazel's that is gonna be a fake name Surely nobody's got it that good. I only was Elvis Hayes look that is gonna be a fake name naturally nobody's got it that good only was Elvis Boris all right thank you so much to the Boris but finally I'd like to thank from a little bit further away here burst wick east Yorkshire I would like to thank William young William young William young Willie Young have we I've done a couple you've done a couple Bob have you yep that means Dave

bringing us home I've done two all right that's both both the mind were food based both the mind were paddock Jess, what was your own? Can I remember that? Darts. Oh, you bought that. Okay, so will you? Okay, first person to do a flip on a jet ski. Whoa, that is actually sick.

That is sick, that's badass. Yeah. Are you going to tell me? E-Hart was around now. That's the front T-she would have been pioneering, that's the kind of, that's the frontier she would have been. That's the kind of shit she'd been doing. She crazy. Yeah, but that's what William Young did.

Go jet ski. William Young, don't. Okay, so there's two ways this could go. He flips with the jet ski, or he's standing on the jet ski. Does the back flip still on the jet ski? He's on both. Whoa, at the same time.

At the same time. Yeah, it actually defied physics. Right. It made no sense. Oh, wow. Everyone was like, that was definitely CGI. That is. In real life, I'm looking at CGI.

Yeah, how are they doing this? It's crazy. Nobody could believe it. Wow, love that. Yep. Pretty wild. That's badass. That's a very murder. That's a little young. well done, well done. Well done, well done.

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you can find it links to most of it from our website do go on pod dot com. Yep. Hell yes. And I think that's it for another week. Fantastic report. They just appreciate that. We'll be back next week with another hopefully fantastic report. I've already got the vote up. It's real close, but it's going to be sick. Great. Three options are all great. The umbrella topic, each of the topics occurred in Ohio. Oh, the second best stayed after Vermont. No, the best stayed. Just what do you stand on this? What's your favourite state?

Pick one. Uh, can you help me? Oh, hi. Uh, hi. Isn't it interesting to go on about Vermont a bit, but only late in the episodes, because of the, what was it? Whoopies? Creamies.

Creamies. Whoopies. And they, I'm making creamies. And they, you've mentioned a few times of the Brisbane show, and the crowd were not understanding what we were talking about. They were not doing it at all. So, it's like, I was listening through to the light part of the video. Guys, you know, getting this, I've mentioned two references to Vermont,

the world's greatest US state. And I'm getting nothing up here. What is wrong with you people? Queenslanders. Tweety maybe love Vermont, come on. I say from a safe distance. I love Brisbane. I love Queensland.

It was great. Anyway, that brings us then and that. So thanks so much for listening. This has ended up being one of our locus ones in a while. I'm sorry. People love it long. I'm sorry. To absolutely nobody!

Boom, I'm a bad boy! Good bye! Later, Phoenix League! Bye, baby! The fact, 201 you started putting a slight, a little... What the fuck? But, later, see you next week! Laters!

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