Do Go On - 201 - Amelia Earhart

Episode Date: August 28, 2019

You know the name, but how much do you actually know about Amelia Earhart? We take a look at Amelia's early life, and discover how much of a badass she really was, at a time when women were seen as pr...etty incapable.Buy tickets to our live shows here: https://dogoonpod.com/events/Our website: dogoonpod.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comCheck out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.biography.com/explorer/amelia-earharthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earharthttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/23/nyregion/henry-street-settlement-lillian-wald.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neta_Snook_Southernhttps://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a28819047/amelia-earhart-disappearance-crab-theory/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal, and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates.
Starting point is 00:00:39 And welcome to another episode of Dugo One. My name is Dave Warnocky. I'm sitting here in a studio with Matt Stewart and Jess Jazz Hands Perkins. She's jazzing away. Matt, where were your hands? They're in my pockets as I always are. I appreciate your hands where I can see him. Don't want you doing under the table.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Dave, uh, dinky. Dick. Yep. Yeah, I've got a dinky dick. A dinky dick. Good instinct there, Maddie, yes. I'm like, it was like, why don't I go with a D word?
Starting point is 00:01:26 I was trying to make it alliterate with hands. I think I'd rather dinky dick than handsy Dave. Yeah. What, your actual nickname around the scene? What, dinky dick or hansy Dave? Which one am I? Hansy Dave. Oh, that's not fair.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Hansy dick. Yeah. Hello, Dave. Hello! Can you believe it? We've made it back to the studio for our third hundred. Is that right? I guess so.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Or is 200 the start of the third hundred? 100. So you got 100 is the end of the first 100? Yeah. Yeah, so this is the start of the third hundred. Yeah, wow. Unbelievable. Our third century.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah. 2.1. Can you believe another milestone episode so soon after the 200th? Crazy. I've got a feeling next week could be. Even more special. How do we keep doing it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:18 It's so exciting. It feels special. It does feel special because we haven't been in the same room, the three of us, basically since we recorded the 200th episode. Yeah. It was a couple of weekends ago. Yeah. How are you? Oh, I'm so good.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Oh, good. Matt, how are you? I'm good, thanks, Jess. Oh, great. Jess has had her birthday since. Happy birthday for yesterday, Jess. That means we're in, we're recording this in that sweet gap. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:42 When Jess is old and. Dave is Butterboy. He's a little butter boy. That character, Butterboy, he's all greased up ready to go. Yeah, I'm only 28 years old and Jess. Remember? When you get to my age, my friend, in a couple hours' time, you are not going to know yourself.
Starting point is 00:03:02 We are recording this the night before it goes out, and the day it comes out, it is my 29th birthday. Yeah. So tweet it, Dave. Pictures of your dinky dicks. Yeah. All your handsy handsy hands. The choice is yours.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And remember, the lizard man loves butterboy. He loves butter beans. And butter boy, everyone loves butter boy. Wait, you're butter bean boy. Oh my God. I am. This is exciting. Anyway, you know what else is exciting?
Starting point is 00:03:34 Apart from, like, tenuous links to old jokes? Yes. Okay. Apart from any number of things. There's so many exciting things in the world. My gosh. There's also heaps of awful things. Beyonce?
Starting point is 00:03:48 Fireworks. Yeah, fireworks. An awful thing. Yuck. But coming up in just a few weeks time, we're going to be heading to one of our favorite Australian cities. Bondura. It has my favorite bridge. Bondura.
Starting point is 00:04:02 The Golden Gate. That was better. The Bundura Bridge. Tis a beauty. I came up. No, no. Focus, Jess. I did come up with a fun new character,
Starting point is 00:04:15 but that will have to wait. Please script it into the show somehow. Somehow. We're coming to Sydney. Oh, yes, the second best bridge in the country after the Bundur Bridge, the Sydney Harbour Bridge, home of the Sydney Harbour Bridge.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Sydney. We are coming to Giant Dwarf, our favourite Sydney theatre there in Redfern. Awesome venue. How do you pronounce it, Jess? Dwarf. Yeah, that was weird how he did it. Dwarf.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Dwarf. Dwayne, the Rock Johnson. Giant Dwar. Dwarf the Rock Dwayne the Rock Dwarf. It's Saturday, September the 21st, we are doing a beautiful Saturday night show.
Starting point is 00:04:54 A beautiful show. Oh, Saturday night. You've got to bring out all the stops on a Saturday night. Oh, yeah. Come on, show business etiquette. We'll be there. You'll be there, hopefully.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Tickets are available now at our website do go onpod.com. We'd love to. We haven't quite reached our reserve. So like a house auction to put it into the parlance that listeners would understand. Especially Sydney listeners. We really, we need to reach a certain number of tickets sellers before we buy our flights.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Yes. And we haven't reached that reserve price yet. So. We're but two away. I watched an episode of Location, Location, Location, Location recently. So I'm, my head's in the game. I understand proper. And we also have a certain reserve.
Starting point is 00:05:38 We hit that. We will escape to the country together. Yeah. with the prophets. I really love those shows. House hunters. That's my favourite. I love quaint English shows about Poirotts or people who like old English couples who wear tweed and they want to buy a property somewhere in the country.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And they want to downsize but have eight bedrooms so that their family can come and visit them. Yeah, it's so great. We just want to run a B&B but downsize. I said, what are you talking about? You're 78 years old. You need one bedroom, possibly a study. That's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:10 They want eight bedroom. Manor home. Oh, we'd love some stables, do we love horses? No, you don't. No, you don't. You never raise a horse. God damn. Anyway, we're also coming to Perth.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Two months out, we have sold most of the tickets. What kind of bridges are they got in Perth? Any good bridges? They've got the... Swan Bridge. They call it all Swan Bridge. They call it all Swan over there. Do they have a Swan Bridge?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Because there's a Swan River. There's the Swan District. There's Swan Lager. Swan Lake, constantly on... Hmm. A.K.A. The Bushchook. I'm going to go check out those bridges. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:42 That's our Sunday, November the 3rd at the Comedy Lounge in Perth. So if you're keen on that one, I do suggest you jump on board. Hopefully we'll see you there, Perth. First ever time. Now, this character I came up. Oh, here we go. You know how we in pirate movies, Lady pirates are always, like, sexy and wearing a corset
Starting point is 00:07:00 and have, like, long flowing hair, but a hat. Oh, I love that. Lady pirates are always hot. I want to be a Captain Barbosa kind of lady pirate. So I would just be walking around my house a lot late. They're going, y'ar! And it's really fun. Right, but you're not wearing a corset.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Is that the difference? Yeah, and I haven't bathed. Oh, nice one. Yeah. I realized in that sentence, I mustn't have ever watched pirate movies, because none of that made sense. What, so... I'm thinking of... Normally in pirate movies, men are not hot and women are hot.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Yes. Is that what you're saying? Sure. In all pirate films, Orlando Bloom, yuck. What about us being hot for once? Yeah, I know. Johnny Depp, get out of here. Are there any other pirate movies?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Probably. Treasure Island. I think you don't have to shit all over my... It's just a fun character I've been doing. Can we hear a little bit of the character? Well, now I can't think of anything to say, but I'm sure I'll think of something. All right, quick scenario. Okay, Dave.
Starting point is 00:07:57 All right. Dave's the shopkeeper. I'm mining my business in the 7-11. Okay. You enter. Hello, welcome to the pirate shop. Yarr, I be looking for some... Milk of a cow.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Okay, well, we've got several different brands. If you want to look up the back there. Okay. Oh, she's like more. You want me to escort you to the milk? Okay, madam. I'm sorry, I'm used to my pirate women being a lot more attractive. You are a disgrusted.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Dave gets it. Discrusted. You've got barricles on your disgrusting. See, Dave gets it. I'm sorry, Matt, what was your character? It's mine in my own business. You nailed it. I wrote myself out of the same, basically.
Starting point is 00:08:43 A lot of internal model are going on there. What's going on over here? There seems to be a pirate in the 7-Eleven. That's weird. A pirate in the pirate shop. And scene. Fantastic work, Jess. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:08:56 You're available for kids' birthday parties, I imagine. No. Please come see my comedy festival show next year. That character will not feature. Unless you really liked it, in which case, maybe. Yeah. I like to keep it ambiguous. Great reviews.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah. Y'all. Hey, if people want to see us at the fringe, how about we tell them about that as well? It's probably thinking we should talk about. The Melbourne Fringe is coming out. Yes, so we're doing a show called Razzle Dozzle. Razzle dazzle. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And it is at the Cooper's Inn and you can get tickets via either Jess's website, which is Jess Perkins.com.com. Or mine, Matt Stewartcomedy.com. We'll just look up the fringe side as well. And it's going to be fun. I can't remember. the dates are, but there's eight of them. The 12th.
Starting point is 00:09:42 So limited to only eight. The 12th to the 19th. I love that. Eight nights only. 12 to the 19th. Melbourne Fringe, get on four. Should be a heap of fun. We'll be there.
Starting point is 00:09:55 All right, let's crack on with the show. What do you say, A? What's the, there's a pirate character for the name, Jess? Yarr. Oh, Yars she do. Yarn. Yars she do. Yars she do is a good name.
Starting point is 00:10:07 All right. Matt, how about you tell us what this show is. about. So the way this show normally would work is the three of us, of us, one of us, will come in with a research topic, which they've probably gotten from a listener suggestion, possibly voted on by Patrons. They'll research it for a lot of time, usually, and then write out a report, and then they'll tell the report to the other two.
Starting point is 00:10:31 We'll be annoying and put them off course. And we get on a topic with a question this week. Jess is doing the topic. Jess, what is your question to get us on to topic? My question is, who is quoted as saying, never interrupt someone doing something you said couldn't be done? Oh, my goodness. That's a real thinker, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:10:54 Never interrupt someone doing something. Sorry, but I'm going to have to stop you right there. Okay. So I'm guessing it's someone famous. It is someone famous. Abraham Goldberg. No. Neither are so correct there.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Neither of you are correct. Are they American? We said two American names. Yes. Okay. Well, we've narrowed it down. Whitney Houston. No, but he's going to the right gender if that helps.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Okay. Okay. I'm all out of women. Wow. I can't think of one either. I've already done Dolly Parton. Oh, Sarah Jessica Barker. Barbara Bush?
Starting point is 00:11:28 No. Were in entertainment or politics or medicine? The three categories. None of those. Dance, hip-hop. No. That's in entertainment, bro. Think about the sky.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Emily Rehaart. Yes. Well done. Thank you. Wow, did you? She flew a plane. Nice one. Yeah, she flew.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Did that quite help you at all? Because you seem well on, as soon as you said plane straight into her. I feel like as soon as I said. Woman plane. Yeah, lady pilot, you'd go. You'd get it. And I read that quote and thought, that's nice. That's a great quote.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Can we hear it one more time? Never interrupt someone doing something you said couldn't be done. So you're like, you can't do that And then they try And you go, nah, stop Well don't, don't interrupt him You be a hater Especially they're doing something quite dangerous
Starting point is 00:12:17 Like flying a plane It's basically don't be a hater Could you name another American woman pilot? I can now because of this report Oh, okay Oh, Nancy Bird, is that one? I'm struggling to think of any other American pilots I mean, we've done a report on one
Starting point is 00:12:31 I know the flight senator Oh, the flight senator guy Yeah, Sally Sullenberger. Yeah, that's a pilot. I'm out. I had one last week. This is your captain Keith Johnson speaking. Oh, Keith Johnson.
Starting point is 00:12:51 They love to do that. They can't have any dead air. They can't afford to breathe those guys. I'm guessing they're splitting their mind on the air and the chat. Just currently cruising it. about 22,000 feet. Look, Keith, you've interrupted my movie. I know.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Matt, that's the fucking point. Matt hates it. Matt is the most mellow, mild person. Melodramatic. I've ever met. But you put him on a plane, just trying to watch a movie, and interrupt him five times. Samuel Jackson's cut off halfway through a speech. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:13:31 sick and tired of his motherfell. fucking snacks. On this motherfucker. I love it when they actually have a surprisingly good, like, radio voice. Oh. Thanks so much for joining us today. Folks, we'll have you back on the air in the ground. Oh, you're on the air.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Weird. Christopher. Yeah. Coming right up. We appreciate you choosing us today. And if Melbourne's home, welcome home. I fucking love that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:58 All right. Does Amelia have that kind of voice? No. Oh. But this is a very long report And also a topic that was suggested by a lot of people Heaps and heaps of people have suggested this topic actually And it was voted on by the Patrions
Starting point is 00:14:10 I put four bad-ass ladies To the Patrions this week So she's a badass And I was like, who do you want to hear more about? So I was like, we need some more Was Whoopi Goldberg one of the options? No, not this time But there were some good options
Starting point is 00:14:26 I was surprised actually They went for Amelia Not that I don't think she's impressive I just thought there was a couple of options on there that they'd be like, yeah, do that. But this has been suggested by heaps of people, so I'll go through a few of them now. Tash Mori, Elvis Jesus Nolasko. Sorry, is that one name? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Whoa. Nate McLean, Lynn from Washington. Hi, Lynn. Is that one name? Yes. Soraya Minchin, Ian Whitehead, Alec McElroy, Kean Lanigan, and Lexi Frustachi. Holy moly. It's an amazing name.
Starting point is 00:15:02 So great suggestion, everybody, and thank you to the patrons who've read it on it as well. Now, there's a very long report, so I'm going to try and keep it together and not do my pirate character much. Yeah, luckily we've got straight into the report. So this should be smooth sailing or smooth flying. Who knows? Hey, welcome back, ladies of the gentlemen. So Amelia Mary Earhart was born on July 24. 1897 in Atchison, Kansas.
Starting point is 00:15:33 1897, the same year that the VFL football competition began. Really? Yes. It was a long time ago. She was the oldest child of Edwin and Amelia, Amy. Amelia went by Amy. Amelia Earhart's like Amelia the third, I think, at least. So it's going to get confusing.
Starting point is 00:15:53 So her mom goes by Amy. And Amelia had a younger sister as well called Grace. Their mother Amy was pretty progressive and didn't seem to believe in typical gender role, so she really encouraged her girls to explore and be themselves. Both Amelia and Grace were very adventurous. Amelia was a real ringleader, and Grace just sort of happily followed her big sister around. And the family called the girls by their nicknames right up until adulthood. So Amelia was known as merely, which sort of makes sense.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Grace was called Pidge. You would have thought she'd be the flyer. Pidge? Yeah. Why is that? No, good, good point. No, what was your reasoning there? Pigeon.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Oh, they fly. Don't I? Yeah. Mealy's don't. Mealy does feel pejorative, right? What do you mean? What does it feel like it's not a positive? Mealy.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Calling someone mealy. Like, that's like a lesser thing, right? I mean, her name's Amelia. Mealy. Oh, I see what you mean. Well, they're spelling like M-E-L-E-Y, like M-E-L-E-Y, like M-E-L-E-Y. Or Millie, they call there sometimes too. Millie, now I'm on board.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Okay, all right. Hey, Melly. And Pidge. Let's fly, Millie and Pidge. The Pidge is a sweet now. Pidge is cute. Pidge is sick. So the girls would spend their days climbing trees, hunting rats, riding a sled down hill, and collecting frogs and worms.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Right. So they would collect the frogs and worms, but they would hunt the rats. Yes. You don't collect the frogs. Collect rats, Dave. Oh, wow. You hunt them. I don't, yeah, I don't know what.
Starting point is 00:17:31 So their uncle helped Amelia build a ramp from the roof of the family shed, and she rode in a wooden box down this ramp, ended up with a bruised lip, torn dress, and a sensation of exhilaration. That's awesome. Sensation of exhilaration. Was that one of yours? No, that's a quote.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I would never come up with something like that. Oh, man, I wish. She exclaimed, oh, Pidge. It's just like flying. It's her first flight. So, yeah, this was, it was her first taste of flying. And spoiler alert, she does a bit more flying. Really?
Starting point is 00:18:05 So that's not the famous flight that we all think of now. That's not the big one. She didn't just go down a ramp once. She's not famous as a kid pushing herself in a box. I mean, we've all got a mattress and some stairs, you know? Yeah, but first seven-year-old to think of that. We all imitate her. Of course.
Starting point is 00:18:23 You know, there's that idea that, some people will live up to their name. Do you think Earhart had anything to do with her being taken to the air? What's that? Nomitive determinism. Nomitive determinism. Oh, like if your last name's Baker. Yes, and I went to primary school with someone called last name Gardner. Now a gardener.
Starting point is 00:18:42 No. And a baker. Wow. As in just like they have a house and they do the gardening sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just listening to tasks they do. Also, sometimes it's just the laundry. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Nicholas Laundry bag. This is my friend, Peter washing basket. Peter, live up to your name. Dream big. Let me throw my dirty clothes, that you? And my friend Chris Astronaut, also a baker. I know lots of bakers. So Amelia's father, Edwin, showed a lot of promise,
Starting point is 00:19:21 but he was never able to break the bonds. of alcohol. I like how they wrote that. He was on nearly constant search to establish his career and put the family on a firm financial foundation. He kind of like bounced from job to job. Couldn't hold jobs very well because he was an alcoholic. I think he got paid to do that. I mean, you know, do what you love. You'll never work a day in your life, mate. He's like, I haven't. But I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:19:53 When the situation got bad, like if he drank away their money, Amy would take Amelia and her sister to their grandparents' home, which is actually where she was bought in the house in Kansas, where she was born was her grandparents' house. The family, when they weren't staying with the grandparents, moved around a lot. The girls were homeschooled for a while by their mother and a governess, and Amelia found a passion for reading.
Starting point is 00:20:20 In 1907 her father, Edwin, he sort of got transferred. So he did have a job who was working as a claims officer for the Rock Island Railroad, and he got transferred to Iowa. So now the family's back together, and the sisters are in Iowa, and they're enrolled in public school for the first time. So she was about 10 before she actually went to a proper school. She showed early aptitude in school for science and for sports. but she did struggle a bit to adjust to school after spending such a long time moving around.
Starting point is 00:20:54 She said, where are the ramps? Where are they? Where's mum? Who are these other kids? You're not my mum. What's his building? We don't have that at home. Things seem to settle for a little while, though.
Starting point is 00:21:12 The family's finances improved. They bought a new house and they even hired two servants. They're doing pretty well. I'm coming now. Alcoholism is paying off. Yeah, that's right. If you drink long enough, suddenly. Well, within a few years,
Starting point is 00:21:27 Edwin's alcoholism again caught up with them and he was forced to retire from the Rock Island Railroad. And although he attempted to rehabilitate himself, he was never reinstated. So they basically were like, you can't work here. And he was like, I'll get better. And they're like, no. Around the same time, the girl's maternal grandmother,
Starting point is 00:21:48 Amelia Otis passed away and fearing that Edwin, her son-in-law, his drinking, would drain away any money she left her daughter. She placed a substantial estate in a trust for her daughter and her granddaughter. So she was like, I don't trust him. Right. Which is pretty savvy of her, I think. Amelia was heartbroken at the loss of her grandmother
Starting point is 00:22:09 and later described this time as the end of her childhood. To be fair, she was about 15. So, yeah. That's something I also stopped calling Amelia. Her sister-by-this-time's going by Muriel, which is her middle name or something. Grace is her first name? Yeah. Grace is much better than Muriel.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And also now you're Amelia and Muriel. Oh, no. I mean, Pidge is better than Muriel. Yeah. Anything's better than Muriel. It seemed to happen more in the past where people would take their middle names and stuff. Well, yeah, even her father, Edwin. I think his name was actually Samuel or something.
Starting point is 00:22:43 And Amy is Amelia. They change their names around a lot, but they go by different names. Yeah. I wonder why that was. Do you think they just had less names to choose from? So to avoid confusion, they'd just give themselves nicknames for things? Right. I don't have less to do with their time.
Starting point is 00:22:57 I'm bored. Call me Grace. Okay, Grace. Now I'm Muriel. People now are less likely to choose their own name. But back then it seemed like they'd give them a few and you'd pick your favorite. Yeah. Do with this what you will.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah. Hmm. Hmm. Who knows? So after about a year long search, Amelia's first. father found work as a clerk at the great Northern Railway. Work as a clerk. In St. Paul, Minnesota in 1915.
Starting point is 00:23:25 So once again, the family moved. And later that year, he applied, this is so weird how this happened. He applied for a transfer to go to Springfield, Missouri. But then the current claims officer there reconsidered his retirement and kept his job. So then Edwin's without a job. He's like, oh, but I left that one for this job. She left St. Paul for that. He left, yes, St. Paul for Springfield, and then Springfield, there was no job.
Starting point is 00:23:57 So he's stuck. Where was St. Paul? St. Paul's in Minnesota. All right, Minnesota. Minnesota. So deciding enough was enough, Amy moved herself from the girls to Chicago to live with friends of hers. She separated from the husband. She went to live in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Second city. Her father's inability to be the provider for the family led Amelia Earhom. heart to become independent and not rely on someone else to take care of her. And that's going to come up again later. I meant Wendy City. Yeah. In a pretty bold move, Amelia sussed out her options for what school she should go to next. So she was like, almost like an auditioning school.
Starting point is 00:24:40 She was going and like sussing them out and deciding what she wanted to do. She rejected the high school nearest her home because she said, said that the chemistry lab was just like a kitchen sink. It wasn't up to her standards. Which she's used to at homeschool at being a kitchen sink. But still, like a, you know. It's a really nice one. Nice one.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah. It's a big. Marble laminate at least. It's a double sink. Yeah. Only a single sink. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 00:25:10 What are you doing? It's unbelievable. Got a single sink in the Butler's pantry. Yeah. No worries. So she eventually enrolled in Hyde Park High School for her final year of school. And she did pretty well academically, but it was a bit of a miserable year for her. There was a caption in the yearbook under a picture of her that captures the essence of her unhappiness.
Starting point is 00:25:32 It just says, A.E., the girl in Brown who walks alone. Oh, alarm bells. Did she submit that herself? Because that is tratching. Is that a description of a schoolgirl or a ghost? The girl in Brown. Imagine a brown ghost. It sounds like a...
Starting point is 00:25:51 It's a haunting description. Imagine brown being your trademark colour. Well, it's a shocker. The positive if you ever shit yourself. No, think about it. You're always thinking about the positives. The only thing worse could be the... The positives.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Oh. Anything worse, I was going to say, if she was the girl in grey or something. The girl in beige. I'd rather be in grey than brown. I love brown. Chocolate brown. I'm wearing grey right now.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Yeah, fair. Gray's fine. Brown sucks. I wore a chocolate brown suit to my formal. So did my first boyfriend to a year 12 formal. Love that color. He's wearing a brown suit. What it's wrong with him?
Starting point is 00:26:30 I don't know. That's something fun about it, having fun. Sorry, does that description describe you at the formal? The man in brown walking alone? He'd desperate. No, I chose not to bring a day. I was there with Justine windowsill. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:50 She had quite the figure. Very boxy. A.E. the girl in Brown who walks alone. Oh, come. Jesus. That's okay. That's tragic. But she flies with mates.
Starting point is 00:27:04 After graduation, she spent a Christmas vacation visiting her sister in Toronto. After seeing wounded soldiers returning from World War I, she volunteered as a nurse's aide for the Red Cross. She came to know many wounded pilots. She developed a strong admiration for aviators, spending much of her free time, watching the Royal Flying Corps practicing at the airfield nearby. As in the sunglasses.
Starting point is 00:27:29 What? She said she had a strong... Admiration for aviators, yes. She's like sort of... It's a weird thing that take out of it. They just suit every face. All these wounded guys coming in. She's like, ooh, like those sunnies.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Why don't you look cool? If you can't take them off, I'm severely. injured behind these. I've got no eyes. Help me. So she's still working as a nurse when the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic reached Toronto
Starting point is 00:28:00 and she herself contracted the illness. A pandemics are the good ones? Which, which kind of demics are the good ones? Dave. What's the good demic? That's what I asked you. Epidemic? Epidemic. That's also bad.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Pandemic doesn't sound good either. Pan sounds all right. What is a pandemic? Dave. Dave, Pam, what's the difference between a pandemic and an epi-demic? I thought that's actually quite similar. I'm looking at it. Other words interchangeable.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Pandemic. A pandemic is an outbreak of global proportions. Okay, epidemic then, here we go. Come on. Is that more localized? Epidemic. Maybe. What pan-pacic?
Starting point is 00:28:34 It's like what, Pan-Pacific? Is it the same sort of, what does that mean? Spreads the Pacific? An epidemic is a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in the community at a particular time. And a pandemic is an outbreak of global. portions. So pandemic's bigger, maybe. Pan's worse than epi.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Ooh. I guess. Yep. All right. Let's go with that. And don't tweet at us. But you can use them interchangeably a lot. If you want to be incorrect.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Yeah. And I don't, Dave. But if you want to get people's attention, don't talk about an epidemic. Most doctors will be like, whatever, mate. Pandemic. Holy shit. We got to lock this shit down. So she gets sick as well.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And she was hospitalized in early November. 1918 spent a couple months in hospital being treated. It was pretty serious. Once she was out of hospital, she spent close to a year recuperating at her sister's home in Northampton, Massachusetts. Yeah, it's a real. Massachusetts.
Starting point is 00:29:30 That one that's easy to say. Massachusetts. Yeah. What do you say there? I just thought I had it go. Yeah. Nice try. It was cute.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yeah, that's a cute attempt. Thank you. So she had like a huge sinus infection as well on several operations for that and it was an ongoing issue for it forever. Millions of people died from. It was huge. It wasn't just an epidemic guys. It was a pan-finding, Matt.
Starting point is 00:29:56 It was a pan-fucking-demic. No, Matt. A pan-fucking-demic. Oh. Please, which is doubling that. It's double pandemic. Pan-fucking-demic. Oh. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Yeah, it's bad. I've got to make a call. So while she's recuperating at a sister's house, she's passing the time by reading poetry, learning to play the banjo and studying. mechanics. Oh, wasting her time. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Change the carburetor. In nine. Was that a haiku? Yes. Yes. In 1919, she enrolled in medical studies at Columbia University, but quit a year later to be with her parents who'd reunited and were together in California. Gosh, she's lived in about 90 different U.S.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Do they all claim her? Bet they do. Oh, probably. There's like seven different museums. Yeah. Millier Hart's. famous childhood home. She lived here for six months.
Starting point is 00:30:50 She once lit a bunsen burner in this sink. Like ACDC in Australia, everyone claims a piece of them. Bond Scott in Fremantle's where he's buried. ACDC Lane in Melbourne because there was a film that filmed here. I think they did a lot of work in Sydney and Adelaide, I think, claim a piece of them as well. Brisbane have shops is a long way to get to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Which is not even there about the original lyric. They also have a top A bit of fun there We wear black Sometimes they did Sometimes they're all brown Okay Horrible colour
Starting point is 00:31:25 Walked alone What are they doing So In 1920 In Long Beach On December 28, 1920 Amelia and her father visited an airfield
Starting point is 00:31:36 Where Frank Hawks Who later gained to fame As an air racer Okay Hawks There's another non-de-plum Oh thinger That you said before
Starting point is 00:31:45 I'm going to determinism. Yeah, none the plume. Are you saying it's a made-up name? So you're saying that he went on to become a hawk? Yes. Which flies in the sky. Just keep up.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I can't keep up. I don't get it. Your mind is so advanced. How do you do it? What's his name? Ethan Hawke. Ethan Hawke's dad. Frank Hawks.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Oh, wow. He dropped the ass for Hollywood reasons. Yeah, it's too hard. Hawks. Yuck. What is there two of you? Come on, Ethan. My name's Chris.
Starting point is 00:32:17 You're Ethan now. Ethan Hawke, okay. So he was like offering flights. He could go on a little joy ride in a plane. Cost you $10. Off you go. And he gave her a ride that would forever change her life. This is a quote from Amelia.
Starting point is 00:32:33 She says, by the time I'd got two or 300 feet off the ground, I knew I had to fly. Well, yeah, you are. You're already doing it. Did she grab the controls? Ethan offer. My turn. Get off, get off, get on. I have to do it.
Starting point is 00:32:46 No, I think I got it. I think I get flying. How could it be? Do you ever think, like... It's a fight or flight scenario. Do you ever think that if you had to take the wheel on a plane? We would all die. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:59 No, pull up. Who wasn't? Who wasn't? Oh, it was Oliver. It was Oliver. I remember flying to Kosumui and Oliver Clark saying he doesn't drink on the plane in case... He gets called up. In case someone needs to take the wheel?
Starting point is 00:33:13 Does he have any experience? No. But he's just like, no, I can't. In case there's a crisis and they need me. That is great. I've often thought about one thing I think about more is I've never had like a valium. You know some people like Valium or something to knock themselves out on the plane? Never done that.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And I think about one thing that stops me from trying it is what have you completely passed out and then there is an emergency and you have to get off the plane quickly. Oh, right? Does that ever happen? Like plane crashes you die, right? Well, a lot of the time. But what if you're a Sally Salenberger and you've got to get off on the Hudson River?
Starting point is 00:33:47 He should not take Valium. Yeah. I worry the guilt of me being carried out because I'm actually asleep. I don't mean you're not, I don't think you're knocked out that hard that you couldn't be shook and awake. I don't know, a small man.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I think also like any sort of, if you're hitting bad turbulence or you do crash, being passed out. Isn't that, it's good thing. It'd be great. Like drink drivers always end up better in car crashes.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Not drink drivers. drunk passengers probably. Oh, because you're floppy. Yeah, they're floppy. Whereas if you're alert, you'll tense up and break more bones and do more damage. Right. Yeah, that's a... My brother broke the steering wheel off his car in an accident once because he was,
Starting point is 00:34:27 he tensed so much that when the impact hit, his steering wheel broke. But I suppose it's probably better than the alternative, which is being impaled. Was he injured? Pretty sore, but he was okay. Wow. It didn't have an airbag, did it? And it was just like floating around. Remember the airbag comes loose?
Starting point is 00:34:45 There's a beach ball in your car with a heavy steering wheel underneath. Yeah, so, I mean, I think you'll be okay, Dave. And where do you fly without me? Like, I'll carry you. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. What are you up to on the leg press? I haven't done a leg press this round, but I think I was 140 or something.
Starting point is 00:35:03 140. Is that? No, I think it was more. Yeah, you're fine. Are you under 140 kilos? You could do me plus the person next one. I can lift you. Well, once you're done doing me.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I can't wake him up. Maybe this will help. What a terrifying way to wake up. What a terrifying way to die. Hey, there are worse ways you could die. It would be confusing, though. So the plane's gone down. I've missed a lot here.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I wake up, you're wearing the oxygen mask. You're on top of me. I'm like, what the hell? It's what he would have wanted. I panicked. I swear, we've talked about it on a podcast. Anyway, so Amelia Earhart is like, I need to fly. This is my calling.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I belong in the sky. I'm paraphrising. Paraphrasing. Oh, boy. Have you had a valium? It's not good if I can't talk when I'm doing the report. So anyway, she starts then working a number of different jobs to save up to a Ford flying lesson.
Starting point is 00:36:06 So she worked as a photographer, as a truck driver. Those are two examples, but there were others, apparently. Wow. She managed to... Photographing. trucks. Yeah, and then trucking cameras. Yeah, driving cameras about.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Just transporting cameras. Just like cameras get to see the world too. You're looking through them all the time. What about what they want to see? Let them look through you. Yeah. Imagine if a camera uses you to see. That's a black mirror episode.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Whoa. That really is running out of ideas. Series of 95. People are cameras. Great. I love it down. I love it. So she saves up $1,000 to pay for a flying lessons. Back then. That's a shitload, isn't it? Thousand bucks is so much money. That would be a fortune. Hate. Imagine having a thousand dollars. Not you dope.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Jess, imagine having a thousand dollars. That would be so nice. I mean, flying lessons now are horrendously expensive still. Are they? They're really expensive, yeah. I've never looked into it because that would be fucking terrifying. And you need so many hours to get qualified, so it's expensive. And the only thing is you don't fly, you don't learn in the safe planes. You learn in those small ones that are always on the news for crashing. But if you can fly one of those little ones, you can fly a big one.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Do you know what I mean? The big ones basically will fly themselves. Yes, I've heard that. I've heard that too. Yeah, just push a button. Push a button. All we have to do is go. Big back.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Welcome. You got to press the takeoff button, though. That's the thing. That's the first lesson. All right, Amelia, welcome to the cockpit. Welcome to plane, can I just say? We're doing vocal fry 101. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:37:44 You have a go. Hi, I'm Amelia Earhart and welcome. I'll stop you right there. That is very quick. Very quick. Your passengers won't know what's happening. Suddenly Matt's watching the movie again. We don't want that to happen.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Come on. You've got to take a solid three minutes. And give them information they don't fully understand. I don't, I mean, well, you tell me what the height we're flying at. I don't know if that's good. We've got a strong tailwind here about 30 knots southeast. What the hell are you talking about? I don't, is it going to be bumpy?
Starting point is 00:38:17 We're going to land at 8.10, which is about two minutes ahead of schedule. No, who cares? Who cares? Tell me if we're going to be four hours late. Sure. But shut up. I'm watching Captain Marvel again. And then this one, a cross check for fairly cabins for landing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:32 What's a fucking cross check? Captain Marvel, she was a pilot, I think. Yes. In the movie at least. Yes. Whoa. Whoa. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Now this makes it. See, you can name another female pilot. Captain Marvel. Anyway, so she saved up all her money and she had her first flying lesson on the 3rd of January 1921 at Kinnerfield near Long Beach and her teacher was Nita Snook.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Great name. Fantastic. Again, Anita, Anita, Anita. Anita Snook. Nita Snook. Sounds like a prank called a Moes. It's like... Anita Snook.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Anita Snook. I'm not... I'm not... Serve another beer until Anita Snook comes over here. Now, Anita was actually the first woman aviator in Iowa. She was a first woman student accepted at the Curtis Flying School in Virginia. First female aviator to run her own aviation business and first woman to run a commercial airfields. But still, she's most well known for being the teacher of Amelia Earhart.
Starting point is 00:39:35 So she was super impressive herself. Yeah, that's really... Anita Snook. Anita Snook. And Amanda Hugg and Kiss. So Amelia immersed herself in learning to fly. She read everything she could find on flying, spent much of her time at the airfield. She cropped her hair short like a lot of the other lady aviators were doing.
Starting point is 00:39:56 She was like, okay, yeah, I'll fit in. Captain Marvel had a haircut. Yeah, she did. Worried what the other more experienced pilots might think of her. She even slept in her new leather jacket for three nights to give it a more worn look. Wow. I also love the fact that they were experienced pilots in 1909. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Not 1909. It's 1921. Oh, shit. Huge difference. You've just skipped over the war. No, I talked about the war. And we all enjoyed it very much. And then there was the pandemic of 1918.
Starting point is 00:40:27 She was working as a nurse. Fucking demic. Working as a nurse and worldwide. The aviators. Red Cross aviators. You even. Pandemic, she got sick. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Oh, I just woke up. Okay. Oh. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Oh.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Oh, a person is on top of you. What are you doing? This seems like a good thing to do it every 20 minutes or so. It's just recap for Mac. We should do this weekly. I think other people would appreciate that. Are you good? You're up to date?
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah. We were talking about Nita Snook. Yeah. You're just listing impressive people. Let's get us some losers. Is that not most of what this podcast is? I guess it is. Impressive people.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Occasional losers. And sometimes evil. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes impressive evil losers. Yeah! We love those. That's the trifecta. Jinks.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Oh, no. That's also Dave. An impressive. Evil loser. Yeah. Yeah. I'll take two of those. Which ones?
Starting point is 00:41:27 I don't know. You'll take evil loser. I'd probably be an evil or a loser. Probably a loser. Well, if you're a good person, you want to be an evil loser, right? You don't want to be an evil winner. That's true. That's right.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I'm bad at being evil. And therefore, took one for the team there. Yeah. Oh, you suck. Okay, so six months later. Laws are. Amelia purchased a secondhand bright yellow Kina Esther biplane, and she nicknamed it the Canary.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I'd call it the banana. Oh, flying bananas. But she went for canary, which I guess is a yellow bird. That's a nice name. And they do fly more than bananas. Canary is always yellow. Can they be different colors? I think they can.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I'm going out on a limb here. I'm saying definitely can be different. I reckon they definitely cannot. Oh, wow. Just for a point of contention. And I'm going to say, maybe. You asked the question, be great if you knew all along.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Can they wrong? I already researched this earlier. The male canaries. The male canaries plumage is yellow, but when they do the mating dance. The female of the species, a fawny browny grey. And when they do their mating dance, what's that look like?
Starting point is 00:42:48 Oh, Spanish flea, okay. Just flap their wings a bit. Oh, a bit of a hula kind of movement. Yeah, all right. Oh, wow, a bit of John Travolta. Oh, he's now miming having sex with the canary. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Oh, my gosh. I hate this now. I love it. I went from a cute little dance to just too graphic, and I didn't like watching my good friend do that. Colleague, my good colleague do that. I got in a zone. Not often that you watch your friend, mine fucker bird.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Yeah. It's not often. It's a treat when it happens. Yeah, I was playing the canary down the mine, if you're not. Oh, wow. Wow. Okay, so she's bought a plane called the canary. Are she having sex with her?
Starting point is 00:43:43 She's fucking the plane. Is there any evidence to say that she wasn't? There's no evidence to say that she wasn't. Thank you. So, prove us wrong. Did you say it was a biplane? It was a biplane. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:43:53 So, could be. I'll say that he listens to. Oh, that's the one fact that he's taken away from it. But the war, he thinks I've skipped. But I mean, what I said made no sense. The plane doesn't have agenda. But it has an agenda. and that is the bone as many humans as possible.
Starting point is 00:44:18 What's it trying to do? Breathe some sort of flying human hybrid. Oh, that'd be great. Plain people. Plain people. Anyway, so following year in October 1922, so she's been flying for just under two years now. Is this after the war? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I skipped over the war. She flew the airstass of the canary to an altitude of 14,000 feet, setting a world record for female pilots. Really, within two years of learning to fly. She's setting world records. That's impressive. World record for height in a plane. Altitude. Altitude, sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Yes. For a lady. Yeah. For a lady pilot because they're different to man pilots. That is a funny one to have a different record for both. Yeah. It's pretty stupid. But it's a different thing.
Starting point is 00:45:12 time. But I'm guessing that she wouldn't have had a record otherwise, right? Otherwise, you would just be saying the height record. I guess so. So maybe think about that for a second. So it's my fault now. I assume so. I'm not really following what's going on.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Me either. I'm just sort of agreeing with you to shut you up so I can get on to the next sentence. I'm just trying to play the soy boy character as best as I can. And you're so good at it. Thank you. About six months later in May of 1923, she became the. 16th woman in the United States to be issued a pilot's license. So she was breaking world records without a license?
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah, she's still learning. Breaking the records and breaking the rules. Yeah, it sounds like it. As she puts on her aviators. Oh, that's badass. Pretty sick. You didn't say it was a badass. She's pretty badass.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Wow. 16th license. So her license says 0-0-0-0-1-16. No, I think it has a more intricate number, but that would be sick. Imagine number one. Zero. Well, you know where it ends. Well, actually, but they're not that, I mean,
Starting point is 00:46:20 they're not given different licenses, so it wouldn't be one, and she wouldn't be 16. She would just be the next pilot to get a pilot's license. They don't have a separate lady license. It's not pink. Oh. Different time, I guess.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Yeah. That system hadn't come in yet. I've got my lady driver's license. I'm allowed drive if me. My husband is with me, and he's had a few too many. That's a cool system. Yeah, it's a good one. No, it's not, actually.
Starting point is 00:46:49 It's a terrible system. It doesn't make any sense at all. And it's not real, and I don't need no man. Don't bring that system in. Is that what you suggest? You just talked over me as I said, I don't need no man. Excuse me, I think I'll take it from here. Anyway, so throughout this whole period as well,
Starting point is 00:47:06 their family had been living mostly on the inheritance from Amy's mother, who'd passed away many years earlier. Yeah, the trust fund. So then living on it. Amelia's mum, Amy, is sort of in charge of the trust. So she's kind of like administering the funds. But by 1924, the money had actually run out. Oh, gosh, she was not administering well.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Well, I mean, Amelia bought a plane, to be fair. I think she had another plane as well. I think she had two planes. All right. This is the last money we have in the world. Spend it on a plane. All right. I need another plane.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I need a second plane. So the money's run out and with no immediate prospects of making a living flying, she sold her plane. And, yes. Isn't that funny that she holds a world record for flying? And she can't get work. I know. Can't even get a job as a pilot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:58 That seems strange. But how much sort of work was there for flying back then? And how much of it is, hey, I can go real high. I'm like, that's great. Yeah, but can you? Get to the destination. Yeah, great. Yeah, if it's real high in the sky.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Yeah, if your destination is the moon. See that cloud? I could fly through it right now. Easy, no worries. Watch me. Watch me. Are you watching? What we really need to do is take a photo of this truck.
Starting point is 00:48:24 So if you could do that. Can I do it from really far away? No. Do it from really high up? No. It's hard making a living, man. It's hard. So she sells her plane and then her parents finally get divorced.
Starting point is 00:48:38 And she and her mother then set out, on a trip across the country, starting in California and ending up in Boston. Oh, wow, that's a big trip. Road trip. She literally has tried to tick off every stage. She's been everywhere. It's wild. And before the trip and during the trip, she underwent more operations on her sinus,
Starting point is 00:48:56 as she'd continued to have issues and was in pain from that nasty bout of Spanish flu. Right. So just constantly having, and sinus is, yeah, I don't really understand the sinus. That's the thing that expands. Is that on the side of your head or the side of your nose? All up here, yeah, in your nose. That would be a pain in the arms. But you know when like you've got a cold or something?
Starting point is 00:49:18 Sometimes you sort of get headaches and stuff too. It's all around. Sometimes your eyes hurt. And I imagine flying very, very high and unpressurized plane would affect that quite a lot. And it's before antibiotics. So they'd do these weird operations. It didn't really work. And apparently a few times even later on in her life,
Starting point is 00:49:36 she'd be in the plane, but she'd have like a little drainage tube. up her nose trying to help with the pressure. It was really bad. I wonder, you know how it's interesting to think back to those operations at the time would have been state of the art, but they just had it, medical science, had it wrong? What are the things we're doing now where it's going to be looked back upon as like, oh, that is not the way you solve back pain? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I'm always worried about stuff like laser hair removal. Right. I'm like, that if I find out one day that that causes skin cancer. There was an episode of the Simpsons where they're in the future. and Ned Flanders is blind because he had laser eye surgery. And he's like, yeah, we didn't realize at the time, but a few years later, our eyes just all fell out. I think it was maybe the Lisa getting married episode.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Anyway, it doesn't matter. Oh. Or does it? I don't remember that joke in there. Yeah, I remember. I remember that episode. I remember Lisa getting married. One of my favorite lines ever is Hugh Grant saying to future Lisa,
Starting point is 00:50:34 current Lisa at the time. I was like she was he was bagging out the Simpsons as a family and she was taking a bit of he said no no no you're like a beautiful flower who grew out of a pot of dirt so nice it's a great lawn so beautiful um so in 1925 she again enrolled in Columbia University but was forced to abandon her studies due to limited finances so mom couldn't afford her tuition anymore so she bailed out of university like plane's Yeah, she bailed out. Limited finances, unlimited flynancers.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Wow. I don't know anymore. Just throwing caution to the wind here. Amelia Earcart style, Airhart, Aaron Eckhart style. That's Two-Face in Batman. All right. Having a little break over here.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Yeah, we'll see how long. I had a nice coffee over here. And I'm off chop. Woo! What'd you have before that ice coffee? Pined a beer. Yeah, okay. And what have you eaten today?
Starting point is 00:51:43 Not a lot. Yep, okay. That makes sense. Wait, now, what have I had some porridge? That it. And some toast with avocado. Mmm. Yum.
Starting point is 00:51:57 What is your life? Have a fucking meal. A thing's that bad man. And a spinach and ricotta roll. Okay, all right. And a roast. At a snack. Just in the car
Starting point is 00:52:12 Your order is out You eat enough food for the day But you just don't have it in the correct order You had the roast for breakfast Yeah, roast for breakfast I had a porridge snack All my hours are all out of whack at the moment And I had that happen yesterday
Starting point is 00:52:26 Where I sort of had all these weird Wishing-washy meals Throughout the day It's hungry Got home about midnight Made a big plate of pasta Basically in bed Within an hour
Starting point is 00:52:38 It's like That's not how to do food. So bad. Yeah. You're doing it wrong. That is not good. Not good. Yeah, I'm an idiot. Yep.
Starting point is 00:52:48 So Amelia's dropped out of uni because of limited finances. So she finds employment first as a teacher and then she did some work as a social worker for a while as well. And she settled for a while in Medford, Massachusetts. Oh, she loves it up there, Massachusetts. She does love it. And also, interesting at the back of the day, you didn't need to have a uni to do many jobs. Yeah. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:53:10 I'm a teacher and a social worker now. Why would anyone go to uni? Why would you go? Why do we go now? Well, someone has been asking that for a while now. Well, Dave, if he followed through with his doctor of podcast, that might have made some sense.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Thank you. But instead he has a theatre degree. Yeah. And a Master of Global Communications. Whatever that means. You should know. I'm definitely using my criminology degree. Yeah, my journalism's coming in handy.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Yeah. Matt takes a black light into every room. Searches for fingerprints. Oh, fingerprints. Fingerprints. Oh, all I found was a bunch of cheers. Anyway. Cheers, Perkins.
Starting point is 00:53:50 So while she's living in Medford, she maintained her interest in aviation, becoming a member of the American Aeronautical Society's Boston chapter and was eventually elected its vice president. Oh, VP. VP. She flew out of Denison Airport in, in Quincy, Massachusetts,
Starting point is 00:54:09 and helped finance its operation by investing a small sum of money. So she's still flying, but I think she's flying for, like, other people. I don't think she has her own plane. Why bother? She also flew the first official flight out of Denison Airport in 1927,
Starting point is 00:54:25 and along with acting as a sales representative for Kinner aircraft in the Boston area, she wrote local newspaper columns promoting flying, and as her local celebrity grew, she laid out plans for an organisation devoted to female flyers. That'll come back up later. She's done a lot of jobs.
Starting point is 00:54:45 She's, like, crazy passionate about flying, though. And she, like, she slots it in everywhere she can. She loves it. Do you think she loves it? Do you get the feeling she'd be dull to talk to it? Because all she'd talk about is flying? 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Like, at a party, you'd be like, oh, no, Amelia's coming over. Oh, no, I know, no. Oh, hi! It's like, she's so impressive, but, like, read a book. Same a new frame, limelaners. Yeah. Yeah, she'd probably be a bit much. But she loves it and respect.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Now, do you guys remember another pilot called Charles Lindenberg? I remember Charles Lindbergberg. Did I say Lindenberg? Is Lindenberg his less famous cousin with a very similar name? Yes, do you remember Charles Lindenberg's cousin, Charles Lindberg? Oh, yes. Well, I... All right, Dwarth, Dave.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Dwarf. Giant bewarf. I mean, you're usually the one to pick on me for saying things, but I do appreciate you coming to my aid this time. Thank you. Hey, guys. I'm happy to be ganged up upon. I just could not have my reputation out there with me not correcting you.
Starting point is 00:55:48 It meant that can in you. Ivory Tower, Dave. Looking down with his dicky hands. It's a dwarf tower. Anyway, so Charles Lindbergh's solo flight across Atlantic back in 1927, a woman called Amy Guest, expressed interest in being the first woman to fly or be flown across the Atlantic Ocean. Great stipulation.
Starting point is 00:56:13 How good is that? Couldn't care less. I'm going to fly. Well, somebody else could drive from fly me, I guess. That's how I want to make records. Being passenger. Yes. She decided that the trip was too perilous for her to undertake, and she offered to sponsor the project
Starting point is 00:56:27 suggesting that they find another girl with the right image. Why? So they did a bikini contest. Yeah. It was a Miss Atlantic Ocean contest. While at work one afternoon in April of 1928, Earhart got a phone call from Captain Hilton H. Rayleigh. Great name.
Starting point is 00:56:47 That's fantastic, man. Hilton H. Who asked her, would you like to fly the Atlantic? H.H. And she said, hmm, let me think about a yep. She said yes. Whoa, she punked him. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:57:00 She punked. How long was that punk? That's a short punk. He was like, absolutely, yeah, you can think about it. Oh, you got me! Fake! Whoop-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-h. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:57:11 You, what have you got me here? By agreeing to the thing I ask you to do? Oh, well, you got me. Oh, no, I got it. So anyway, she travels to New York to be interviewed and met with project coordinators, including a publisher by the name of George Putnam. He'll come up again later, too.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Putnam, another great name. Loving all these names. Soon she... Is that, that's not New York in. And New York, is it? New York, yes. Holy moly. I'm loving all these names.
Starting point is 00:57:39 George Putnam. Putnam. Goody Putnam, one of the Christopal characters. I thought I knew the name Putnam. Anyway. Bring it back. So after being interviewed and that whole process, she was selected to be the first woman on a transatlantic flight as a passenger. What was the interview?
Starting point is 00:58:02 Can you sit on a plane? Yes. You're hired. Yeah, done. Will you fit in the seat? Yes, great. So the wisdom at the time was that such a flight was too dangerous for a woman to conduct herself. She can't do it!
Starting point is 00:58:17 But they said she could be in charge of the flight logs. You can organise the snacks. You can do the admin. Like logs of wood. Women love admin. Was there some sort of a fire powered plane? Yes. She was shoveling logs at the back.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I actually do love admin though. Yeah, I love a spreadsheet. Oh, I love a spreadsheet. Okay. Oh, let me use a few of those, bloody formulas. Give me that Google Calendar. Oh, Google Calendar. That's color coded.
Starting point is 00:58:47 You barely believe it. Love that. Love to be organized. Such a Virgo. Vergo season. Anyway, so. Why aren't I more organized then? Because you're a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Brian, I'm a piece of shit, Virgo. Thank you. A piece of shit, I think she said. Is that a pun on Pisces? God, that is. I thought you were going on a timeout. Yep. It's good to remind him.
Starting point is 00:59:14 So on June 17, 1928, they took off from Trapacy Harbor, Newfoundland. I always say it wrong, but a Canadian friend told me how to say it. It looks like Newfoundland, but it's not Newfoundland. It's now found now. How now, Newfoundland. Newfoundland. And the plane. Guess what the plane was named?
Starting point is 00:59:37 Think about the three of us. What's our best quality? Oh, sexy. I was also going to say sexual chocolate. Okay, the plane was called friendship. You perverts. Okay. Oh, no kinking shaming.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I'm not kinking shaming. I'm just saying that we're friends. Well, you, earlier in this very episode, you retracted friend and shaming. stranger to colleagues. They did a call to the colleague. The colleagues. That sounds classy. Oh.
Starting point is 01:00:12 The flying briefcase. A little plane called Friendship. And accompanying her on the flight was, well, really, she's accompanying them, isn't she? But anyway. Also on the flight. That's a since reference to that as well. I was thinking the same thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Here comes the Friendship. Oh, Luster Nail. Mr. Burns, Pinn PIN Pails, the bowling episode. against the holy rollers Any whom? I reckon Amelia Earhart has been mentioned on the Simpsons but I can't quite put my finger on it
Starting point is 01:00:45 Maybe one of the dolls or You know when there was all the... Yes, yeah, the Barbie Lisa Lionheart Was it something to do with that? Maybe. I'm sure that it gets... Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:00:56 It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I will not Google it. I also think that was as she was probably... You're literally Googling it now. a surprise judge when someone was on trial. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Anyway, so on the flight was pilot Wilma, Bill Stultz, and co-pilot and mechanic Louis Slim Gordon. And Wilma is a man. Wilmer is a man. Bill, his name is Bill. Bill. Because it would be funny if they're like, you're going to be the first female passenger on a plane.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Now meet your pilot, this female. Yeah, she's had two weeks of lessons. Amelia's like, no, no, I'm really. good at this. Yes, but Wilma's had two weeks lessons. From a man. Did you learn from a man? No. That's right. So approximately 20 hours and 40 minutes later, they touched down at Bury Point in Wales. That's in the United Kingdom. Wow. A different continent. Huge. 20 hours, 40 minutes. God, it's a long fly. When interviewed after landing, she said, Stilts did all the flying. Had to. I was just baggage. Like a sack of potatoes.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Had to. But then she added, maybe someday I'll try it alone. Oh, I love it. Bit of sizzle. I'm sure they won't come back. When the Stilts, Gordon and Earhart flight crew returned to the United States, they were greeted with a ticker tape parade along the canyon of heroes in Manhattan, followed by a reception with President Calvin Coolidge at the White House.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Wow. Not enough ticker tape parades these days, can I just say. Ticket tape. Cannot remember the last one I went to. God, it's fun to say, though. Ticket tape. Ticket tape. Ticket tape, tape, tape.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Matt, do you want to go? Just leave that car sitting in a heap coming to ticket tab where everything's cheap. Ticket tab. Ticket tab. Pover, ba. Shirley, five, a hundred on the side. So we're going off script,
Starting point is 01:02:50 referencing a pick-a-part ad. It's a tight reference, and everyone will enjoy it. Everyone will enjoy it. That was for the international listeners. From Mogadishu to Wattington, we all got that. reference. So some newspapers and magazines began referring to Amelia as Lady Lindy because she had a slightly similar appearance to Charles Lindberg who people affectionately called Lucky Lindy. So they called her Lady Lindy because they were both pilots.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Okay. Makes a lot of sense. But yeah, basically. And his wife's like, sorry. I am Lady Lindy. I really got to put my hand up there. I'll stop you right there. So she's, um, She's growing more and more famous and popular. I mean, you don't get a ticker tape parade unless you're famous and popular. You don't. So in 1928, she wrote a book about aviation. Of course she did, because it's all she bloody talks about, and her transatlantic experience.
Starting point is 01:03:49 And the book was called 20 hours, 40 minutes. They weren't good at naming books back then, were they? They had all the options then. 20 hours, 40 minutes. Hmm. Harry Potter and the Philosopher Stone wasn't taken. She could have called it. You have that.
Starting point is 01:04:03 anything, you know? So many options. I was just trying to think of another Harry Potter and I just blanked. Harry Potter and the Gobbled of Fire. That was also available. Oh, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. Oh. Yeah, different, very different.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I would have called it flying. You probably could have had that back then. No one else had thought of that. You would have called it flying. Yeah. Flying. Bracket. The book.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Oh, I like it. And in the, in the, in the, side there's a thing you can tear out and turn it out a paper airplane. Perfect. Just a page. That's fun. So she puts out her book and it was published by George Putnam. Goody Putnam's husband.
Starting point is 01:04:49 And he heavily promoted her through a book and lecture tour and product endorsements. She was like a big celeb. Not enough lecture tours either these days. Yeah. I'm pretty sure she had like a clothing line for a while there. Not enough clothing lines. She was huge. So she actually actively became involved in the promotions, especially with women's fashion.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Oh, fashion. Fashion. Now I'm interested. So for years she'd sewn her own clothes. But now she contributed her input to a new line of women's fashion that embodied a sleek and purposeful yet feminine look. Yeah, because you don't want to, sleek and purposeful. Oh, it's very manly. Men are wearing this is what's going on.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Oh, and feminine. There we go. Thank God. Nice twist. On an old classic. That's the trifecta. I want to look sleek, purposeful and feminine. Do you think was it all just flying, flying inspired clothes?
Starting point is 01:05:48 It was like. Leather jackets, aviators. Apparently it was a lot of like linen and stuff that wouldn't really crease. So you could pack it easily, I guess. That's a good idea. It is a good idea. It was all made out of parachute material. Parachute pants.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Hands, yep. Parachute. She was wearing. Parachship bands. Sleak. Feminine. So these celebrity endorsements helped her finance her flying, basically. She would just like take all the money and then just put it back into flying.
Starting point is 01:06:15 So she accepted a position as Associate Editor at Cosmopolitan magazine. What? She's really branched out. Working with Ida Butros. And what do you reckon she did while she was at Cosmo? What do you reckon she, what kind of articles? Sealed section. Yeah, obviously, Dolly Doctor.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Oh, about my life club? for a bit. That's what her column was called. Yeah. The 14,000 foot high club. No one's got that high yet. She turned... It was actually called fucking and flying.
Starting point is 01:06:43 It was a different time. F and F. F and F. She turned it into an opportunity to campaign for greater public acceptance of aviation, especially focusing on the role of women entering the field. Of course she did. And in 1929, she was among the first aviators
Starting point is 01:06:59 to promote commercial air travel through the development. of passenger airline services. So she was like, yeah, get people on planes. Right. She loves planes. Yeah, she really sounds like she's got a passion for flying. What you said? And all things, aviachon.
Starting point is 01:07:15 How strange that we only remember these days for her fashion line. Yeah. She's like... Sleak, powerful. Feminine. That's her fragrance. Odde. Eude de amelia.
Starting point is 01:07:28 I saw her name before looking her up. She was mentioned in a simpson. episode, episode 432. But anyway, her name's spelled E-A-R. Yeah, so even reading it now, I keep going to say Earhart. But it's air, it is Earhart. So, also in 1929, a lot happening for her. George Putnam divorced his wife and started a courtship with Amelia.
Starting point is 01:07:50 No. Goody Putnam. But being the independent, progressive and modern lady that she was, she was hesitant. He proposed six times before she finally gave in. I love that. War her down. It was a different time. There was a lot more wearing down of people.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Why? Take a hint. It's strange. She said no. You reckon you get to five and you think, I'm out of the woods here. He's never going to ask again. Five times, no. Six times. Bang, she's not expecting it.
Starting point is 01:08:18 She has to say, yeah. Was it the thing it was expected? You've got to play this dance. It's like an old school thing or? I reckon you should just have a chat to each other. After you say no the first time, maybe have a chat. He's like, oh, I'll get you next time. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:32 No. Wouldn't he be like all rejected and sad? Talk to him. I'd move cities. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah. I'd move countries. But the problem is you move cities and she moves around so much. You'd probably end up in the same place. Oh, God. That's why I move country. What's she like? What's she like then?
Starting point is 01:08:51 So anyway, they get engaged. After the six. After a substantial amount of hesitation, yes. And they got married on the 7th of Feb, 1931, in Puttnam. mother's house in Connecticut. Romantic. Mom's house. That's a new state.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Seriously, I would love someone to go back and tick off how many states she's being. She's like we're in about 15. She's covered so many. She referred to her marriage as a partnership with dual control. And on the day of their wedding... So she put it into airplane parlance. Of course she did. Flying with him, I mean, being married to him.
Starting point is 01:09:28 It feels like a bi-platelet, a partnership. Yeah. On their wedding day, she presented George with a handwritten letter, and she wrote, I want you to understand, I shall not hold you to any many evil code of faithfulness to me, nor shall I consider myself bound to you similarly. She said, I may have to keep someplace where I can go be by myself now and then, for I cannot guarantee to endure at all times the confinement of even an attractive cage.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Nice one. But again, you think you'd mention that before the marriage. Yeah, not on the day of. You don't make sure that you're both understanding how it's going to be. Like, I'm still my own person. Yeah, we're married now. Great. Also, these are the rules.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Sorry, what? Yeah. Calling of a cage is full-on language. An attractive cage, though. Yeah. Don't try and trap me. It's interesting because that's what you would, someone who flies is trapped in a cage, right? Wow.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Like a little canary that we, no. I'm thinking back to a different podcast we recorded today. Sorry. Your pet bird diet. Sorry. Yeah, okay. You were sitting there. I was sitting here.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Yeah, true. I've done a lot of podcasts today. Sorry, edit that out. Or don't. Who cares? No, I don't you know who I am to get the context. It's late and this comes out tomorrow. It's going up exactly as it is.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Exactly. Oh, no. So tomorrow, Jess and I are on Josh Ells. Don't you know who I am podcast? Very funny time with Broden, Kelly and Evan Munroes Smith, the second banana on Prime mates. It was an absolute dream team. So good.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Matt and I got to do a lot of Broden impression. I love Broden Kelly. I love aeroplanes. I love aerobloane. Looking forward to it. So yeah, she's like, she's not really keen on marriage, but she's married,
Starting point is 01:11:13 and her ideas on marriage are pretty liberal for the time, as she believed in equal responsibilities for both breadwinners. She believed in separate cages. She pointedly kept her own name rather than being referred to as Mrs. Putnam. I love that.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Because there was already Mrs. Putnam out there. Yeah, true. Goody Putnam. Putnam's a good name, but Earhart's better. Earhart's way better. And when the New York Times, as per the rules of its style book, insisted on referring to her as Mrs. Putnam, she laughed it off. She's like, ha, that's not me.
Starting point is 01:11:43 I'm Miss Earhart. I don't think I'd change that. Would you change the same day or Jess? I don't think it's really a problem for you. Anyone can do it. People do it. Yeah, true. That's a new age.
Starting point is 01:11:56 It's probably a bigger statement for men to change. it than it is for women to not change it now. Yeah, I've decided to not change it my name. People are like, why are you telling me this day? Ding, ding, ding. You're like, speech, speech. Oh, yeah, so thanks for coming. Obviously, we've got through all the formalities of the wedding,
Starting point is 01:12:13 but I wanted to say, yes, I've come to a decision. I'm going to keep my name. Oh, my God, Dave. Looking at my cue card, pause for a pause. No, okay. Okay, interesting. You're all sick fucks for not supporting me. Yeah, all right, I get it.
Starting point is 01:12:29 You want to keep me in my cage? Well, no. I like Perkins. Perkins is great sad. And it's my name. Also, my partner's surname is Simpson. So I'd be Jessica Simpson. So that's not happening.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Jessica Simpson, where did it alone. I reckon Jessica Simpson is definitely on the downward spiral of her career. No offense, Jessica. You are definitely on the upward trajectory. I think I could be the more famous Jess Simpson. I think that you could overtake her within 10 years. I'm not willing to.
Starting point is 01:12:59 to put in that word. Don't you think... If you type Jessica Simpson into Wikipedia, you'd come up and it would say, not to be confused with Jessica Simpson, the former soap star, pop star. Right. Yeah, Jessica Simpson's,
Starting point is 01:13:10 I imagine a lot of our listeners won't even know who that is. Bullshit. Come on, Nick Lachet, newly weds. She asked if tuna was chicken or fish. She's an idiot. I reckon you could take her down. And I'm sure a nice person,
Starting point is 01:13:22 but like an idiot. You could take her down. I could easily. You could step into those shoes. Those boots. that are made for walking. Oh, yeah, right. Nice.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Anyway, fuck. So Amelia's too busy for a honeymoon, right? So after the wedding, straight back to work for her. Too busy. So did her husband go on a honeymoon on his own? He went to Barbados. I think it's pronounced Barbados. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:13:48 I always get that one wrong. Her public persona presented as gracious, if somewhat shy, and a woman who displayed remarkable talent and bravery, which are true things of her. inside, she was determined to distinguish herself as different from the rest of the world. She was an intelligent and competent pilot, but she was not a brilliant aviator. She knew that. Really?
Starting point is 01:14:12 Wait, what, okay, what's the difference? Yeah, how do you define that first? Yes. What do you mean? Like, she's intelligent and competent. She's not brilliant. Oh, just because he said pilot and aviator, I thought you were differentiating between the two. Great pilot, terrible aviator.
Starting point is 01:14:26 No. Gotcha. You were just for a variety of. Yeah. She's an intelligent and competent pilot, but she was not a good pilot. I mean, that's just confusing. What I mean is she wasn't a freak of nature. She worked really hard.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Right. And her skills kept pace with aviation during the first decade of the century. But as technology moved forward and got more sophisticated and the radio navigation equipment changed, she continued to kind of fly by instinct rather than learning a lot of the new stuff. She recognized a limitations, though. She continuously worked to improve her skills. But the constant promotion and touring that she was doing never really gave her the time that she needed to catch up. Lecture touring.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Is that worth it? Is that worth it? I think so. I agree. The crowd went wild. The touring, yeah, so she could never quite fully catch up. Oh, the victim of her own success. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Same with us. Am I right? 201 episodes. I don't have time to podcasts anymore. I'm out there just doing lecture to us. Yeah. I'm out there telling people how to podcast. Yeah, rather than actually still podcasting.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Yeah, I'm just going to go tell people how to. This podcast has been on autopilot for about 150 weeks. Are there, are there uni courses in podcasting or something? Could we end up being professors? I reckon we could. I want to be called Prof. Oh, Prof of Pod. No, I'm going to be cool and they can just call me Jess.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Oh, cool. Prof Perkins. Oh, actually, yeah, that's pretty good. Anyway. Perth Perkins of podcasting. I'm just giving you a little insight there into our future careers. No, what she's like. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 01:16:01 The topic of this report. Yeah, yeah, right, right. So she's not actually a great pilot, but she's a great lecture tour. She's amazing about that. That's what I got from that. She's a very, she's a good pilot, but she's not like a freak of nature. She has to work hard at it. You know, you know, some people work really hard at comedy and others are just freakishly good at it.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Yes, we do. They do. They do not using any examples. Some people are working really hard and some people are just naturally really good. Great. You didn't point to me for either, so that's offensive. But also, she's doing it in a podcast. No one knows which one was which.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Yeah, no one knows that I was pointing, Dave. That was just a little stab for in the room. But it's also where your stab was that I work hard and you're naturally talented. I wish that was true. Yeah, neither of us work that hard. We should work. Imagine if we worked hard. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:16:58 The world would be in our feet. God. I reckon we probably would have conquered comedy. We'd have clocked it. Instead, we're just sort of going along by instinct. Yeah, just like Amelia Earhart, real famous tour in the world. Yeah, yuck. So she sent her sights on establishing herself as a respected aviator.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Shortly after returning from her 1928 transatlantic flight, she set off on a successful solo flight across North America. By making the trip in August of 1928, she became the first woman to fly to flight. solo across the North American continent and back. So she did do it. Yeah. Pretty soon after as well. Yeah, yeah, quite soon after.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Wow. You sort of stressed that she's just a competent sort of flyer, but she still did a lot of first. So was it, what was it? It was just that she was more adventurous than others? Yeah, maybe. She's backed herself, I guess, or, yeah, I don't know. As in like what drove her to do things.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Yeah, maybe she was just like, I'll do it. It wasn't like she goes, can do this. She was just the one I'm the one who did. The one who had a go, yeah. I think that's probably a lot of pioneers are like that potentially as well, right?
Starting point is 01:18:07 They, they beat down new paths and then others follow. Yeah, I guess so, yeah. That was a pretty big, bold call. It just made it. No, but I know what you mean. Philosophical podcast.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Yeah, welcome back to the flaws of you. Dave just removing the loudest jacket in the world. I reckon that no one would have heard that because it was pretty. Deftly done. Deftly. Before Dave started yawning to the side, but completed it right into the mic. So that's for those who heard that that was.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Don't remember that happening? He starts to be like, ugh. The quietest part of the yawn was. Oh, boy. What? Did you so do you pick up on that? Is this thing on?
Starting point is 01:18:59 Oh. Kill me. I'm so sorry. I'm going to, I might skip over some stuff here. No. No, because we're only just getting up to the part that she's the most famous for. Oh, what is it? The fashion line. I thought it was flying planes. Yeah, but she did, she did that.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Okay, well, two more things before I get to the big thing. And then there's more. So, yep, okay. So the year after she did the North America trip, she entered the first Santa Monica to Cleveland Women's Air Derby. Dhabi, placing third. So it's like a race. It's a race. In 1931, she powered a PITICAN PCA 2.
Starting point is 01:19:49 I don't know what any of that is. But she set the world altitude record. On her motorbike. Wow. I'd be impressed. I'd be impressed. 14,000 feet on a motorbike. She got that ramp out again?
Starting point is 01:20:02 18,000 feet. Whoa. 18,415 feet. Could you put that in a subway sub? It's about 18,415 of them. Whoa. Foot longs. I think her talent obviously is flying high because in the race she's only third,
Starting point is 01:20:17 but the height she's number one all the time. Right. That's her talent, right? Sure. And also, yeah, her sinus is a, I wonder if that's coincidence. What do you mean? That her sounds are constantly blowing up. And she also hits the highest altitudes of everyone.
Starting point is 01:20:34 It would be worse, wouldn't it? Yeah, that's what I mean. Is that why she has these problems? Because she's always... No, it was because she got sick. Right. Not connected at all. Not connected.
Starting point is 01:20:43 What a silly thing for me to have said. I apologise to all, especially the doctors listening. And during this time as well, she became involved with the 99s, which is an organisation of female pilots advancing the cause of women in aviation. She had called the meeting of female pilots in 1929 following the race that she was in and she suggested the name based on the number of original members and she later became the organisation's first president in 1930.
Starting point is 01:21:11 I imagine that would make you furious. Why? The original amount of members was 99. They couldn't find one more. For some reason I thought, I was thinking of the number 30 and I was like, no, I'm so fine with the, yeah, 99. Get one more. Do any of you have a friend?
Starting point is 01:21:28 Get her in. Oh, but the hundreds wouldn't sound very good. I like the 99s. That's cool. Anyway, so she was a vigorous advocate for female pilots. And in 1934, there was a race, the Bendix Trophy Race, banned women from competing. And she refused. Apparently she was asked to fly screen actress Mary Pickford to Cleveland as like a celebrity to be there for the opening of the race.
Starting point is 01:21:54 And she refused to because they'd banned. women from the race. So she was like a real pioneer. It's so strange to be banning. I just don't understand the logic of that. Well, yeah. I guess like a lot of horse racing, women couldn't compete for a long time, right?
Starting point is 01:22:08 I said, well, we've found. Sciences told us that the woman's brain is not quite big enough to fly. The woman's sinuses cannot handle it. I have sinus trouble and I just got to 18,000 feet last week. No, you didn't. You must be a man then. Did your husband?
Starting point is 01:22:25 You've got a short haircut. What are you trying to pull here, sir? Enough for that. Your name's Emilio. Anyway, so the main thing that she's probably the most famous for is her transatlantic solo flight in 1932. So she was 34 years old at the time, and it was May 20, 1932. She set off from Harbour Grace in Newfoundland. She intended to fly to Paris in a single-engine plane.
Starting point is 01:23:00 I mean, I've got what they are here, but I don't know what any of them are. It's a plane, and she was basically trying to recreate Charles Lindbergh's solo flight from five years earlier. So she's going to go, she's aiming to fly to Paris. After a flight lasting 14 hours, 56 minutes, she contended with strong northerly winds, really icy conditions and had some mechanical problems as well. She landed not in Paris, but in a pasture north of dairy in Northern Ireland. So she was realising she wasn't going to make it to Paris. She was having heaps of mechanical issues. So she was like, I've got to land.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Just landed in a field. She landed in Northern Ireland in a field. And there was a couple of people there witnessed the plane landing. And somebody, a farm hand asked, have you flown far? And she said, from America. That's pretty far. It's pretty far. So she was the first woman to fly solo nonstop across the Atlantic.
Starting point is 01:23:58 So that counts, doesn't it? It counts. I mean, she still made it. She just didn't quite get to the exact spot that Charlie did, but she still made it across. And because of this, she received several accolades. She got the Distinguished Flying Cross, the Cross of Knight of the Legion of Honor from the French government, and the gold medal of the National Geographic Society from President Hoover. And the gold medal in figure skating.
Starting point is 01:24:27 We just had an extra one. We just had an extra one. I like how France was still like, you didn't really make it here, but we want to be involved anyway. Yeah, good job. You got close-ish. So she took on several other solo flights in the coming years.
Starting point is 01:24:41 In 1935, she became the first aviata to fly solo from Honolulu to Oakland in California. And it had been attempted by many others with no success. but she had a really smooth routine flight. She even spent some time in her final hour was relaxing and listening to the broadcast of the Metropolitan Opera from New York. She just listened to the radio. Wow.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Having a great time. The same year, she flew solo from L.A. to Mexico. I mean, that's less impressive. I mean, depending on where in Mexico you land, of course. Yeah, Tijuana. Just south of the border. Well, the next record attempt was a non-stop flight from Mexico to New York.
Starting point is 01:25:23 and she set off on the 8th of May and her flight was uneventful but totally successful and large crowds that greeted her in New Jersey were concerned because she had to be careful not to taxi into the crowd there's so many people and they're just standing and they're just standing like the plane's coming right for us
Starting point is 01:25:42 this is amazing, how close it's coming wow, I'm about to touch the plane with my face I'm going to be on the news face plane man Later in 1935, Amelia Earhart joined Purdue University as a visiting faculty member to counsel women on careers and as a technical advisor to its department of aeronautics. But she still had a goal she wanted to achieve. She said one flight which I most wanted to attempt,
Starting point is 01:26:13 a circumnavigation of the globe, as near its waistband as could be. But for this new venture, she was going to need a new. plane. So the following year, a Lockheed Electra 10E was built at Lockheed Aircraft Company to her specifications, which included extensive modifications to the fuselage. How good is that word? Fantastic. Wow, that's fantastic. Have a go. Fusiliage. I've added a syllable. So by this stage, well, I imagine she's making a comfortable living and she's like a celebrity pilot now. Yeah. Yeah. I think.
Starting point is 01:26:53 she's doing fine. And she and George are together. Apart from John Travolta, there's not really any celebrity pilots. I mean, the guy from Iron Maiden. Oh, yeah, that's true. The Bruce Dickinson. He wears gold-plated diapers. It's a different Bruce Dickinson.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Oh, how many Bruce Dickens is that? Who's the gold-plated diaper, Bruce? That's Christopher Walken and the Cowbell sketch. Oh, fantastic. The Bruce Dickinson. Important thing to bring up. So Amelia chose Captain Harry Manning as her navigator. He was also a skilled pilot and radio operator who knew Morse code.
Starting point is 01:27:34 The original plan was a two-person crew. Amelia would fly and Manning would navigate. But during a flight across the country that included Amelia Earhart, Manning and Amelia's husband, George, Amelia was flying using landmarks. So she kind of knew where she was going. So it was almost like she just, didn't need a navigator. But I imagine that when you're flying over the ocean, that is a bit different.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Very hard to do. Exactly. All right, I haven't seen the awful tower for a while. I reckon we're heading in the right direction. There's a few tests, though. So she and Putnam knew where they were. Manning did a navigation fix. So he was navigating.
Starting point is 01:28:11 But that alarmed Putnam because Manning's position put them in the wrong state. They were flying close to the border. So the navigation error was minor. but Putnam was a bit concerned. He didn't quite trust this guy's navigation skills. So sometime later he arranged a flight to test Manning's navigational skills at night. And under poor navigational conditions, Manning's position was off by 20 miles.
Starting point is 01:28:36 That good? No, well, some consider it reasonable because it's within an acceptable error of 30 miles. Right. But Putnam wanted a better navigator. So they got a guy called Fred Noonanen on board, who was subsequently chosen. as second navigator.
Starting point is 01:28:53 So the original plan was for Noonan to navigate from Hawaii to Howland Island, which is a pretty difficult part of the flight. And then Manning would continue with Earhart to Australia. And then she would proceed on her own for the remainder. I don't know why. She's dropping people up on the way. I guess so. I mean, how are they getting back?
Starting point is 01:29:11 There are other planes. Just parachuting out? Yeah. Off you go. Bye. Parachuting pants out. The golden girls are all there. They wear parachute.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Sure. I think of the Golden Girls, I think parachute pants. There you go. So their first attempt, which tells you how it's going to go. Great. It was on March 17, 1937. She and her crew flew the first league from Oakland, California to Honolulu, Hawaii. But due to some technical and mechanical issues with the plane,
Starting point is 01:29:42 the aircraft needed to be serviced in Honolulu, and the flight resumed three days later. But during the takeoff, there was an uncontrolled ground loop, the forward landing gear collapsed. Both propellers hit the ground and the plane skidded on its belly and a portion of the runway was damaged. Not the runway.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Not the runway. There was a scratch in the bit of. But there's a bit of the cause of what happened was a little bit controversial. Some witnesses said that they saw a tire blow. Others say it was pilot error. Ooh. Big difference.
Starting point is 01:30:18 How an witness now it was the pilots. Yeah, exactly. From a distance. I reckon the pilot stuffed up and popped the tire. Do a burnout. Oh, don't actually do it. Shit. Do a flip.
Starting point is 01:30:31 Though no one was seriously hurt, the plane was pretty badly damaged. The plane was a little embarrassed. The plane had to be shipped back to California for extensive repairs. So in the interim, Earhart and Putnam secured additional funding for a new flight. Are they going for a speed record, too? like if it takes three months to get the plane back. Like I've circumnavigated the globe in six months. Great, we could do that in a ship in like six weeks.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Cool, yeah, great. The stress of the delay and the grueling fundraising appearances left Amelia exhausted. By the time the plane was repaired, weather patterns and global wind changes required alterations to the flight plan. So this time she was going to fly east. So she flew to me. Miami, Florida, and then she...
Starting point is 01:31:20 New State. She and Noonan, oh yeah, took off on June 1st from Miami with much fanfare and publicity. The plane flew towards Central and South America, turning east for Africa. Turn east! I love that idea. Like you've got to follow a road in the air? Yeah. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Okay, in 300 meters, turn left. Where we're going, we don't need rows. From there, the plane crossed the Indian Ocean and finally, touched down in Ley in New Guinea on 29th of June, 1937. So they'd done about 22,000 miles of their journey and they had 7,000 to go. And that 7,000 would take place over the Pacific Ocean. So in lay, she contracted dysentery, which lasted for several days. And while she recuperated, several necessary adjustments were made to the plane.
Starting point is 01:32:11 A toilet was installed. Her seat was just turned into a toilet. Is dysentery the shit in yourself? Oh, like so badly. They just cut a hole in the floor. Yeah, it's really bad. Are you saying, are you, have you heard disentry? I haven't had dysentery, no.
Starting point is 01:32:26 But it was like, it killed people in the war. Right. People died from dysentery. Right. I feel like there was dysentery maybe in the Shackleton episode. Yeah, after you get people together like that, not eating properly. You just shit yourself to death. What a way to go.
Starting point is 01:32:43 And they didn't have hydrolight back then. Right. You know? Man, if we could. Gastrolite. Do you reckon we could get an ad for hydrolite? Because I love that shit. I'm up for that.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Well, I'll hold my judgment until payment is made. Oh, yeah. I could be swayed. My love could be bought. I don't know. Yeah. Does that work? So anyway, they're making a few adjustments.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Apparently they packed away the parachutes. There'd be no need for them. Oh, no. No, I mean, you would not mention that unless that came up again. Keep the parachute pants on at all times. Yeah, keep your pants on. Come on, Betty White. Don't be you silly.
Starting point is 01:33:22 So their plan was to head for Howland's Island, which was two and a half thousand miles away, situated between Hawaii and Australia. And it's like a flat sliver. It says sliver of land. It's only about... But the sliver of land. It's about 6,500 feet long,
Starting point is 01:33:39 1,600 feet wide, and no more than 20 feet above the ocean. Can you even land on that? Apparently, they can. But how do you find it? It's in the middle of the ocean. Is Manning there or is she by herself now? No, Fred's with her now.
Starting point is 01:33:52 The better navigator is with her. But it's still going to be really hard. They even said it will be hard to spot to distinguish it from similar looking cloud shapes. It could look like a cloud. Quick land on that cloud. Oh, God. We kind of, did we skip over the Australia a bit? So there's a place in Australia where she landed.
Starting point is 01:34:13 There's probably a little plaque somewhere we could go visit. No, she's heading that way now. Wow. Yeah. She's heading, she's in New Guinea and she's heading to Australia. Right. Via Howland Island, which is a sandbank by the sounds of it. Sliver.
Starting point is 01:34:31 So to meet this challenge, she and Noonan had an elaborate plan with several contingencies. In case of overcast skies, they had no rate, oh, sorry, they did have radio communication with a US Coast Guard vessel called Itasca. Itasca. Beautiful, man. Ayahuasca. They were all off job. And the ship by Tasca was stationed off Howland Island, so it was kind of nearby. So they had radio contact.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Look for the ship. Look for the ship. And then they could communicate with them. They're like, all right, so we've got that. Sadly, there was also ships parked next to clouds. It was very confusing. They could also use their maps, compass, and the position of the rising sun. That's plan B.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Use the map. Use the map. Got a compass? Where's the sun? They also had an emergency plan to ditch the plane if need be, believing the empty fuel tanks would give the plane some buoyancy, as well as time to get into their small inflatable raft and just wait for rescue. As well as time to get into their swimwear.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Yeah, got to look good. I thought you were saying abandon the plane in the air and just start flying themselves. We'll take it from here. We assume we can fly. Has anybody checked? So they set out from lay on the same. 2nd July 1937, heading east towards Howland Island. Though the flyers seemed to have a well-thought-out plan,
Starting point is 01:35:54 several early decisions led to the grave consequences later on. Oh, grave is a bad word. Oh, no. Why would she mention that unless someone was going to go in a grave? Not watery grave consequences, hopefully. So they left behind radio equipment with shorter wavelength frequencies, presumably to allow more room for fuel canisters. But this equipment could broadcast.
Starting point is 01:36:17 radio signals further distances, and due to inadequate quantities of high-octane fuel, the electorate carried about 1,000 gallons, which was 50 gallons short of full capacity. So it didn't have enough fuel. Oh, dear. The elector's crew ran into difficulty almost from the start. Witnesses of the takeoff reported that a radio antenna may have been damaged. It's also believed that due to the extensive overcast conditions, Noonan might have had extreme difficulty navigating.
Starting point is 01:36:47 If that wasn't enough, it was later discovered that they were using maps that may have been inaccurate. So they're not off to a great start. And where did they get the map from McDonald's or something? It came with a burger. It was in a happy meal. According to experts, evidence shows that the charts used by Noonan and Earhart placed Howland Island nearly six miles off its actual position. Right. And it's about, what, a third of a mile wide.
Starting point is 01:37:11 It's so small. That's really off. They can't find anything. So on the, so they left it. about 12.30 p.m. on July 2nd. Wait, p.m. That's just afternoon. But then it talks about the morning of the same day. So maybe they mean a.m. Do they leave at midnight? But did they cross a time zone? Maybe. On the morning of the same day at 7.20 a.m. She reported her position, placing the Lectra on a course of 20 miles southwest of the Nakumanu Islands.
Starting point is 01:37:49 At 742, the Itasca, what did I say? The plane was? Atasca. That's the ship? Yep. The ship, thank you. Picked up this message from Earhart, says, we must be on you, but we cannot see you. Fuel is running low.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Been unable to reach you by radio. We are flying at 1,000 feet. The ship replied, but there was no indication that she'd heard them. The Flyers' last communications were at 843, though the transmission was marked as questionable. It's believed that Earhart and Noonan thought they were running along the north-south line. However, Noonan's chart of Howland's position was off by five nautical miles. I think that's...
Starting point is 01:38:30 Nordic miles are quite big too, aren't they? I think that's a lot. Why do they do that, Dave? Why not just have miles? I couldn't tell you. No, I don't know either. I don't know that you didn't ask me, but... I don't know why I thought Dave would know.
Starting point is 01:38:45 No, because Dave knows everything. He just has these weird facts in his head, but he let us down this time. Let's look into it. I think it was just because he said Nordicamiles there longer, and I went, yeah, as we all know, obviously. And why is that again? So the ship released its oil burners in an attempt to signal to the plane. Like, I guess, you know, pre-flares. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:39:07 But it didn't, you know, they... The plane didn't see them or they didn't hear anything from them. So when the ship realized that they'd lost contact, they began an immediate search. Because this is a Coast Guard ship. So despite the efforts of 66 aircraft and nine ships, an estimated $4 million rescue, authorized by President Franklin D. Roosevelt. She's moved through some presidents. I know, hasn't she?
Starting point is 01:39:32 I guess that's what happens when time passes. Yeah, weird. The fate of the two flyers remained a mystery. The official search ended on July. 18, 1937, but Putnam financed additional search efforts working off tips of naval experts and even psychics in an attempt to find his wife. In October 1937, he acknowledged that any chance of Earhart and Noonan surviving was gone. And the following year on January 5th, Earhart was declared legally dead by the Superior Court
Starting point is 01:40:01 in Los Angeles. Right. They disappeared. Is there another twist coming? Nope. I did not know that's how it ended It is still a mystery Really
Starting point is 01:40:13 People claim to it all the time Be like These are the bones of Amelia air hard When you Google her There's articles from like 12 hours ago Stuff's happening now Yeah I reckon three weeks ago There was a photo
Starting point is 01:40:25 That people believed that they could see her plane In the background up Oh right Well I've got a couple of From the time Or she's still flying today She still goes She can't land
Starting point is 01:40:33 She hasn't found the The brand girl who flies alone She is a ghost Don't spook me out It's late at night. So yeah, it's still a mystery, and there's a couple of different theories. I'm nearly done. A couple of theories, well, there's heaps, actually.
Starting point is 01:40:47 There's lots of conspiracy theories about what happened to them. But the biggest two theories, one is that the plane that they were flying in was ditched or crashed and the two perished at sea. That seems to make sense. Several aviation and navigation exports experts. Support this theory, concluding that the outcome of the last leg of the flight came down to poor planning and worse execution. Brutal feedback.
Starting point is 01:41:11 I don't. I mean, they're dead, guys. Can we keep it a bit more constructive, please? Come on. Good effort, captain's, no coach's award. Well, they would have left beautiful corpses. Let's take some company. Not that we found them.
Starting point is 01:41:23 But yeah, they thought, well, they probably just ran out of fuel because they didn't, apparently they didn't have enough fuel anyway to make it. They were never going to make it. Oh, heartbreaking. Another theory is that they might have flown without radio transmission for some time, landing at uninhabited, like a small, a tiny island inside of a reef in the Pacific Ocean. But even if they'd survived that, they would ultimately die there because nobody could find them anyway. And that theory is based on several on-site investigations that have turned up artefacts such as improvised tools, bits of clothing,
Starting point is 01:42:01 and an aluminium panel and a piece of plexiglass that is the exact width, and curvature of the electro window. That sounds like pretty good evidence. That feels like that's pretty good, but they've still haven't been able to get solid. So there's an idea that they might have lived there for a while? Maybe if that's who these tools were, but no idea. It's wild.
Starting point is 01:42:23 And it just keeps going. Like there was another theory that suggested she and Fred were working as spies. Yeah. Not a lot of meat to that thing. Here we go. I'm interested in this. I was spying on that island. They were like, they were spies.
Starting point is 01:42:36 They were spying on the Japanese, I think. That makes sense. Pick the most famous woman on the planet and make her a spy. Make her a spy. In November 2006, the National Geographic Channel aired episode two of the Undiscovered History series about a claim that Earhart survived the world flight, moved to New Jersey, changed her name, remarried, and became Irene Bollum. And this claim had originally been raised in a book called Amelia Earhart, Liz. based on the research that somebody else had done.
Starting point is 01:43:10 And Irene Bollum... Some loon. Irene Bollum was a banker in New York during the 1940s. She denied being Amelia Earhart. Are you Amelia Earhart? She would, though, wouldn't she? She filed a lawsuit requesting $1.5 million in damages and submitted a lengthy affidavit in which she rebutted the claims.
Starting point is 01:43:29 What are the damages? Stop saying I'm a cool famous person. But that would be a great plan, though. if it was Amelia Earhart, because then you're proving that it's not you, and you're getting paid for it. Yeah, that's a weird. Sweet retirement plan.
Starting point is 01:43:44 And this continues still. In August 2019, this month, famed explorer Robert Ballard, who found the Titanic in 1985, led a research team to Nicomororo. That's not right, with the hopes of uncovering more answers about her disappearance.
Starting point is 01:44:03 The search was sponsored by National Geographic, and they plan to air two-hour documentary about it later in the year. So they're still looking. And there's even a theory in this exhibition, there's a theory that if they did land there that Noonan died, the plane floated away, Airhart lived for a few weeks on the island, but then when she did die, the three-foot-long coconut crabs that live there ate her body. Right. That's why there's not, that's why like,
Starting point is 01:44:34 coconut crabs. People have found bits of bones, but not like full skeletons, so the crabs have eaten it. And would they, they wouldn't have any way of identifying those bones, DNA or anything? I guess they probably didn't have any of her.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Well, I'm sure they'd have something now, but yeah, they haven't been up. There's no solid, there's a lot of like, it probably is, but nothing solid.
Starting point is 01:44:57 And this happened 80 years ago. Right. Over 80 years ago and we still don't know. It's a mystery. It's a mystery episode. A mystery episode. Oh my goodness. And so it's crazy that she was close enough to communicate with that ship.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Yeah, for a part. It was breaking in and out. We're pretty close. So you think that they might be like looking, but they never saw anything. Yeah. Do you think if she didn't disappear, would she still have the sort of place in history? Or is the disappearance a big part of her mythology sort of thing? Great point.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Maybe it is, yeah. because Because it sounds like she did a lot of stuff If she completed that trip Yeah And it seems like she was pretty close I think that's a similar argument Could be made for Charles Lindberg
Starting point is 01:45:42 Who was world famous at the time Probably the most famous person on the planet for a period But in the nearly 100 years since A lot of people we were remembering Because of the baby kidnapped Right yeah So it's like an extra element to it So she did this amazing feat
Starting point is 01:45:55 And then also she disappeared So it's like a famous for two things I guess And there's heaps to it Like there's so much and there's so many different theories and you can go into a lot of detail. I just sort of wanted to like, I didn't know anything about her early life or, you know, what else she did or why, you know, why she was so famous before this. So there's so much more to it. But I've already talked for nearly two hours and that was.
Starting point is 01:46:21 That was a great report. Just some of it. Fascinating. Insane. What a life. What to learn is to live. Yeah. I, I.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Do you have your favorite theory? I like to think that she lived and wasn't eaten by the crass, but instead, no, no, she lived on and lived a happy wife. Yep. And she just didn't want to be found. She ended up love and laugh on that island. And she, yeah, she just sort of became friends with those coconut eating crabs and said, could you just eat some of me?
Starting point is 01:46:56 So it looks like I'm dead. Oh, wow. Okay. So they sort of worked in with them. Right. Yeah. What part? What would you sacrifice?
Starting point is 01:47:06 Of her. No of yourself. Oh, myself. Okay. That's an even harder call to make. I'd say, easy to sacrifice her left leg. Yeah, I don't know. I think all parts of me are really important to me.
Starting point is 01:47:22 Interesting. So maybe she had a similar feeling about her own way. Maybe my appendix? Yeah, get rid of that. Tonsils? One kidney? Let the crabs eat your tonsils. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Get in there. Cut them out. Get them out of there. Yeah, anyway, that's a... Great report. And if I can add, a non-fun fact at the end here, just to clear it up. And nautical mile is larger than a regular land mile, if you will. Great.
Starting point is 01:47:47 And it is based on the circumference of the earth. Oh. It's traveling a certain distance. On the curvature. That's right. It's a minute of arc on the planet Earth is defined as one nautical mile. A minute of arc. Yeah, traveling that arc.
Starting point is 01:48:05 And a minute knot of time? What is a minute? No, of time. At what speed? That's weird. I don't like that. I don't talk about it. It's also a knot is based on this as well because a knot is a unit of speed.
Starting point is 01:48:20 If you travel at a speed of one nautical mile per hour, you are said to be traveling at the speed of one knot. That's how they work that out. You know, they say that that ship was travelling at seven knots. That's seven nautical miles per hour. Jess, this info would work well for your pirate character. Yeah, but she doesn't get it. You'd present it well. I don't understand it.
Starting point is 01:48:42 You'd present it well. Nah. Oh, boy. Anyway, so there you have it. Great work, Jessica. Thank you, Matthew. Jessica, Jessica Simpson. Nope.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Where has your father? I don't know that song. What is that? By Adam someone? No, no, let's not. Let's just do our favorite part of the show, which is the part that's dedicated to our Patreon listeners. Adam Green.
Starting point is 01:49:17 Great. So what we do at the end of every episode is we like to give back to those people who give to us. That's right. And the first section is the fact quote or quote. Question. Fact quote or question. Section. Thank you, Dave.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Where on the Sydney Shambard deluxe Memorial VIP level of Patreon, you get a bunch of extra rewards, including you get to vote for two of the three topics we do. You get to do all the other things like get bonus episodes. But you also get to give us a fact, a quote, or a question. Up to you. And this week's fact, quote, or question. question comes from listener. Dave, help me with a pronunciation when I muck it up.
Starting point is 01:50:06 Jacobi D'Angel. Jacoby de Angel. Thank you. And Jacobi. Hello, Jacoby. Jacobi, also, you get to give yourself a title. And Jacoby has given himself the title, writer, director, cinematographer, editor, producer, executive producer, and best boy of the do-go-on movie. Ah.
Starting point is 01:50:27 It's a one-man film crew. This is really handy for us as well. Real Robert Rodriguez. It means we don't have to do any of that work. And he asks a question. He's taking a question option. He will not do his own gaffing, though. No.
Starting point is 01:50:42 That's left to me. Great. Thanks, Jacobi. Am I saying that right? Jacoby. Sorry, Jacoby. And Jacoby asked the question, what do you think the story was?
Starting point is 01:50:54 A question usually reserved for Mesao at the weekly planet. But this week it's for you. What should the Do-Go-On movie be about? Let me know so we can get right into pre-production. Oh, the Do-Go-On movie. Well, I reckon it should be like Bohemian Rhapsody and sort of shows the how we came... What's our live-aid? How we came to...
Starting point is 01:51:17 Well, we haven't got there yet. All right. How we came to meet each other to start the podcast. Then we started getting mega-successful. The money went to my head. We had a falling out for a bit when I got. go solo. When does this stuff happen?
Starting point is 01:51:30 This is in the future. Soon. Okay. If you keep interrupting me. And then I get really hard into drugs for a bit and I realize the people I'm surrounding myself with not good people. And then I come crawling back to you and I say, oh, come on, go on, let's be friends again. And you go, all right. And then we play live aid.
Starting point is 01:51:55 Whoa. That's a great movie. So it is, it's just, I haven't seen that, but that's the movie for Hemmy America. I also haven't seen it, but it's... Have you not? No. You've got to see it. Genuinely, actually, it was very good.
Starting point is 01:52:07 Really? Mixed reviews is what I've heard. Oh, I liked it. I've heard nothing but bad reviews. Really? Apart from this current one. Oh, well, now I feel like an idiot. Well, I'm probably listening to idiots.
Starting point is 01:52:18 Yeah, he did win the Oscar for it, Rami Moore. My opinion was that I enjoyed it. That's a beautiful thing. That's the only opinion you should borrow about. And it was great in a cinema because it was very lame. And Queen's music is great. And it was also a huge hit. And the people aren't wrong.
Starting point is 01:52:32 But I was just telling you our story. I'm not talking about Bohemia Rhapsody. Okay. Well, that's a great story. I don't know if I get out a lot to that. I would pay to see it, is what I'm saying. Oh, but there's got to be some sort of love interest. You're basically the Freddie Mercury character.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Is that... Matt, I'm the Freddie Mercury of this podcast. Okay. Look at this big mouth. Dave, I guess that would make you the big hair guy who plays this... Brian. Brian. Yeah, you're Brian.
Starting point is 01:52:57 And I'm one of the others. You're John Deakin. You're John Deakin. John Deakin? Is he an Australian Prime Minister? Alfred Deakin. Damn it. And Deakin's spelled differently.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Damn it. And what's the other member's name? Roger. Roger. Roger. Roger. Roger. He is Roger.
Starting point is 01:53:19 Roger. Roger. The blonde one, the drummer. Yeah. That's me. I'm Roger. Anyway, so that answers your question. Great question. Jacoby.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Jacobi, we appreciate. Hopefully that answers. Is that, Dave, you got any other elements you would add in there? A sex scene? Is there a sex scene? I said there's got to be some sort of love it. Yeah, well, it's a sex scene where the Jess character wakes the Dave character off from a plane. Oh, plane crash, that's exciting too.
Starting point is 01:53:48 Oh, we should add elements to some of the stories. We split the party, Birken Will style, on the way to the stage. Maybe like a spinal tithe. tap sort of homage where they can't find the stage. So we do, there's a whole section of the movie where we Burke and Wills this journey from the green room to the stage and it takes us six months. Most of the film. We keep sweating the party until it's just us left and we have to eat a horse.
Starting point is 01:54:17 Why is a horse backstage? I don't know. It's in our rider. Oh, normally the rider's on the horse. This time the horse is in the rider. That's almost something. It's Roger Taylor. Roger.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Sorry, Roger. I did say Roger. Well done. I wouldn't have got Roger. Yeah, no, I think that's good. I reckon we add in a bunch of elements. Jacoby, I think, I mean, you're the writer, director, et cetera. We don't want to do all your writing work for you.
Starting point is 01:54:45 But that's the basic idea. Yeah. Who's playing us? Oh. Roger Taylor. I'm going to have Boris Becker. Young Boris. Becca play me.
Starting point is 01:55:01 You normally do it the opposite. That's great. You normally do it the opposite in the way that you pick an actor, not a tennis player. You pick someone who's younger than you so they can play you at your age. I've done all the opposite. I'd like a young Pat Cash to play me. Oh, he'd be good. He'd be great.
Starting point is 01:55:20 He'd be great actor. A lot of sass. Yeah. A lot of energy. A lot of headbands. Yeah, yeah. Which I used to wear. Blue and white checked head.
Starting point is 01:55:27 band. Beautiful. Which tennis player would please. At a Kotterkova, surely. How dare you? Jeannie Bouchard. Oh, you're Jeannie Bouchard. For sure.
Starting point is 01:55:40 Oh, a beautiful name. Beautiful name. Love her name. Beautiful tennis player. Beautiful forehand. Yeah, I meant her tennis playing, not her looks. Because I value so much more than that. Hey, we learned the lessons of Amelia and the 99.
Starting point is 01:55:54 It's not about that. From Get Smart. And the budget would be. be Oh. What's the biggest film budget? Like 400 million is like... Double it.
Starting point is 01:56:04 A billion. Double it again. A billion. First billion dollar movie. Yeah. We're going to film it on the moon. Still shit. There is a part where we go to the moon.
Starting point is 01:56:15 Yeah, we go to the moon. Every one of the 200 episodes, we put all the elements into the movie somehow. Somehow. A reference is every episode. So we have to do the movie from now because, I mean, movies take all. while so there'll be other episodes in the meantime. Fuck. And there's a part two.
Starting point is 01:56:32 This film will never end. This is a film that never ends. Have we done a lamb chop sing-along episode yet? We will. Anyway. Thank you so much, Jacoby. Am I sign that right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:56:46 You are saying that perfectly. Good job. And the other thing we like to do is thank a few of our other patrons. And Jess normally comes up with a bit of a game for this section. What are you going to do this week? Can we give them a first? They're the first person to do something? Yeah, they'll be great.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Is that okay? Yes, please. Are you sure? Thank you. Dave? Yeah, I love it. Do you? 100% approval.
Starting point is 01:57:12 Dave. I never want to let you down. Never want to let you down. Never want to let you down. Never want to let you down. Inside you. Oh. Does he say beside you?
Starting point is 01:57:27 Jesus Christ. Oh my God. Can we end the episode there? Yeah. We can end the podcast. Okay, great, thank you. 201, done. Done.
Starting point is 01:57:35 Goodbye. 201 and done, as I've always prophesize. So we'll give them first. Who wants to kick it off? I would like to kick it off. And thank from Port Perie in South Australia, Australia. Australia. Chris McDougal.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Chris McDougal is a great name. Chris McDougal. I love that name. And Chris is the first person to, order an ice cream Sunday at night and not be told that the ice cream machine is being cleaned. Dave, is this based on Eve? Oh my God, my biggest pet peeve! Wait, so he's ordered it and then they say they can't give it to him?
Starting point is 01:58:13 No, he's ordered it and they've given it to him. He's actually got an ice cream Sunday after midnight from a McDonald's. Can you believe that? Can you? You can't. Wait, why has it been cleaned? I'm so confused. They always just say after midnight, sorry, the machine's off being.
Starting point is 01:58:27 cleaned. Right. Always. The only time I ever on a Sunday is after midnight. And he was the first to order one. And be given his order. Oh, they said it wasn't, it isn't being clean. Yeah, they said, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:58:39 Why haven't bring it up? Yeah, it's weird that they brought up the cleaning schedule of the machine. No, no, he, as he was like, oh, yeah, I guess I'll get an apple pie and a small chocolate Sunday thinking they'd be like, it's bringing clean. But they went, yep, no worries. That's $6.10. And he was, pardon. What, gobsmack?
Starting point is 01:58:54 I did not bring my wallet. Chris McDougal. Congratulations. I just came here to get furious. And honestly, I reckon we've started you off. You've probably got one of the shittest ones we'll come up with. No, honestly, this is probably the most impossible task any person's ever been given. I've done.
Starting point is 01:59:12 Can he at least give him a topping? Oh yeah, caramel. Yum. Strawberry. Do you know what you do? Do you know what you do? This is what I do and I'm sad. Oh, great.
Starting point is 01:59:22 You go and get a Sunday. Sometimes I drive to the McDonald's near, near, my house and I just sit in the car park if I'm angry about something. And I get... Can we put this in the movie? And I get a caramel Sunday, a little one, and some chippies, and you dip the chippies in the Sunday. And that's what you do when you're angry. And sad.
Starting point is 01:59:42 Isn't your origin story? When I'm... Chips are for the angry. Sunday for the sad. That's what I do. And how angry and sad do you get after midnight when you try and order that and they only give you the chips? No, Dave. No ice cream.
Starting point is 01:59:56 After midnight. I'm a big girl. She'll become an e-walk. I can't sleep. Whatever that movie is, it's not e-walks. What? Gremlin? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:06 Feed them chips after midnight. They'll become gremlins. And I would also like to thank from Goldben in Australia. Where I'm going to be next week. You said it was such confusion and then you transitioned instantly to
Starting point is 02:00:22 I'm touring there. Goldben in Australia. I forgot that. People. In Country New South Wales or Canberra, I'm coming up to do some shows like next week or the, yeah, next week I think. And you can find out details about that. A message to a comedy.com. I'm going to Wagga, wogger, I'm going to Golden.
Starting point is 02:00:41 I'm going to Orange and I'm going to Canberra. So maybe you'll be able to meet this person there. Yes. And I would like to thank from Galvin, the home of the big merino. Bronlew-Livesy. Ooh, Bron. Livesy. Livesy.
Starting point is 02:00:57 Livesy. Bron Livesy. And Matt, what's Bronn the first person to do? Okay, first, all right. Throw it at me again. I'm going to empty my mind out. Hard to do. And Bron Livesy is known, of course, for being the first person to sweep a full paddock.
Starting point is 02:01:16 Wow. An entire paddock? Yeah. A full one? Yep. Shit. Okay. Now, I don't know if that means like sweep it for mines or sweep hay away.
Starting point is 02:01:27 Sure you'd rake it or mow it. Why are you sweeping it? I'm guessing it's a mine sweeper. Wow, that's an important job. Yeah, the first person to do it. Without being exploded, I imagine, is what you mean. Wow, Bron. Go, Bron.
Starting point is 02:01:42 Sorry, thank you. Doing good work there, Bron. From Goldwyn. Hopefully I'll see you next week. May I thank some people as well? Yes. I would like to thank from Robina in Queensland in Australia. I was in Rubina last week.
Starting point is 02:01:57 You are so worldly. On the Gold Coast. I would like to thank Ariel Woodhouse. Oh, solid name. And Ariel Woodhouse is known, of course, for being the first person to get a perfect score in darts. Whoa. Wow.
Starting point is 02:02:13 And that's that weird game where bulls eyes aren't the highest score. No. That's that one weird game where bulls eyes aren't the high. Yeah. Except for golf is the only other one as well. It's like triple 20 or something like that. Yeah, triple 20. Oh, wild.
Starting point is 02:02:26 It doesn't make any sense. that Mario did it. Yeah, well done. And you should go, there's a weekly room there at the Dog and Parrot. Go there last week and you'll see me there. Oh, fun. Yeah, time travel, your time travel? Thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:02:42 Ariel Woodhouse, fantastic. Oh, three great names so far. So good. Big shoes to fill for these final three. There's plenty more. Because I would also like to thank from Greensboro. Where I was born. Here in Victoria.
Starting point is 02:02:55 Whoa. It's always funny when it's. It's on my passport. It's so specific. Yeah, mine says Mount Waverly. Green'sborough. Victoria would be fine, Melbourne. We didn't live anywhere near Mount Waverley, but that's where the hospital was.
Starting point is 02:03:07 It's funny that that ends up on your passport forever. I was born in Mount Waverly. Because I was born in a country town. Mine is specifically to that town, which makes more sense. But otherwise, you think if you're in Melbourne, you just call it Melbourne. My brother says like Fitzroy or something. Like, at least that's a trendy part of Melbourne, you know? Good for him.
Starting point is 02:03:25 Dad's his hawthon, I think. Mum, Maribara, country kid. Anyway, I'd like to thank him from Greensboro, where Dave was born, Toby Goal. Wow. Toby Goal. Toby Goal. Toby Goal. Toby goal.
Starting point is 02:03:39 Toby goal. First man to flip, kick flip over a tractor. Wow. They're all paddock based. Kick flip over a tractor. Over a tractor. You need a ramp for that. Really air hard stuff.
Starting point is 02:03:54 But he didn't have one. Oh, wow. That's a big kickflip. Yeah. That's huge. Yeah. How did you do that? Well, obviously what he did is practiced at the Greensboro Skate Park.
Starting point is 02:04:03 Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Do you remember that from when you were born? Yeah. And I remember looking at it from the train. There it is. There it is.
Starting point is 02:04:15 Well, thank you very much, Toby. Toby Gole. And congratulations on that. Pretty sick kick-fit. That's sweet kick-clit. That's nice. So cool. We thought that was gnarly.
Starting point is 02:04:24 That is gnarly. That's wild. You know what, we've had four Aussies. Let's have a fifth one. From Geelong in Victoria, I would like to thank Jamie Boris. Boris is such a great name. That is. Oh my God, Jamie Boris.
Starting point is 02:04:38 I love it. Boris. Oh my God, that is really tickled me. Boris. How good is that? Boris. Jamie Boris is the first person to buy an Advent calendar. Whoa.
Starting point is 02:04:54 And not eat all of the chocolates on day. A1. What? Actually stuck to the system. I always did that. Did you not stick to the system? You weren't the first person to do it. No.
Starting point is 02:05:03 Jamie Boris was. Happy to be beaten by a Boris. Always said that. It's weird. You have always said that. Now, finally it makes sense. 201. It makes sense.
Starting point is 02:05:12 Thank you, Jamie Boris. You are disciplined and we appreciate that. Yeah. Congratulations. Otherwise, what's the point? It's just like you're inspirational. Go buy a box of chocolates. I mean, I just want to eat a bunch of.
Starting point is 02:05:22 I've jumped ahead. You've jumped ahead, surely. Of course I have. If anything, I fell behind on purpose to pull up a few. That's another thing. Jamie was on time. Okay. I also have done that before.
Starting point is 02:05:33 Oh, three in one day. Yes, please. Yeah. And then some advent calendars on the 25th. Oh, this excitement really good. Double chocolate on the final day, too. What an absolute treat. Wow, we've nearly made it.
Starting point is 02:05:50 Your esophagus could not handle the memory. Of all that chocolate. It started spasoming. Oh, boy, how exciting. Oh, thank you, Jamie Boris. Boris, oh my God. Maybe my favourite name at all time, Jamie Boris. Can you explain to me why it's so good?
Starting point is 02:06:06 No. No. I mean, what was the name at the start of the episode? Something Hazers. God, that was incredible. No, it was Elvis Hazel. That has got to be a fake name. Yeah, surely.
Starting point is 02:06:18 Nobody's got it that good. If only was Elvis Boris. Oh, now we're talking. All right, thank you so much to. the boris. But finally, I would like to thank from a little bit further away here, Burstwick, East Yorkshire.
Starting point is 02:06:33 Ah. I would like to thank William Young. William Young. William. William. Have we, I've done a couple, you've done a couple bop, have you? Yep. That means Dave bringing us home. I've done
Starting point is 02:06:49 two. All right, that's fuck. Both of mine were food based. Both of mine were paddock based. Jess, what was your one? I can't remember now. Darts. So, my sports. Okay, so Willie Young.
Starting point is 02:07:02 Okay. First person to do a flip on a jet ski. Whoa. That is actually sick. That is sick. That's badass. Yeah. I reckon if Amelia E-Hart was around now, that's the frontier she would have been pioneering. That's the kind of shit she'd be done.
Starting point is 02:07:20 She crazy. Yeah. Yep, but that's what William Young did. Got a jet ski So, okay, so there's two ways this could go. He flips with the jet ski or he's standing on the jet ski does a backflips still on the jet ski.
Starting point is 02:07:34 He's done both. Whoa. At the same time. Yeah. It actually defied physics. Right. It made no sense. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:07:42 Everyone was like, that was definitely CGI. That is. In real life, I'm looking at CGR. Yeah. How are they doing this? It's crazy. Nobody could believe it. Wow.
Starting point is 02:07:52 Love that. Yep. pretty wild that's badass so that's Will Young well done Will Young well done Will Young we appreciate a good backflip
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Starting point is 02:09:31 I've scheduled the last like eight remaining episodes to go up. And the episode 99 and 200 of both videos, episodes which one of them recorded our Airbnb in Brisbane, the other one on stage in Brisbane. And they were both fun. I remember the Airbnb in Brisbane we were doing it. We were mugging up for the camera a bit without mentioning it on the thing so it would be interesting to see if that makes it more...
Starting point is 02:09:54 A lot of sexy eyes were being delivered to that camera. From Dave, not from me. Oh yeah, sorry. I wasn't looking at your eyes. Mine were going straight down the barrel the whole time. It was weird. I did not look away for two hours. And I'm going to try and start putting some extra bits and pieces up there every now and then as
Starting point is 02:10:09 well. So that should be fun if you want to be on there. So everything's basically dogo on pod. And you can find links to most of it from our website, dogo on pod.com. Yep. Hell yes. And I think that's it for another week. Fantastic report there.
Starting point is 02:10:24 Just appreciate that. We'll be back next week with another hopefully fantastic report. I've already got the vote up. It's real close, but it's going to be sick. Great. Three options are all great. The umbrella topic, each of the topics occurred in Ohio. Oh, the second best state after Vermont.
Starting point is 02:10:43 No, the best state. Jess, what do you stand on this? What's your favorite state? Pick one. Can you help me? Oh hi Oh hi Isn't it
Starting point is 02:10:55 It's interesting Because you go on about Vermont a bit But only late in the episodes Because of the what was it Whopies? Creamies Creamies Whoppies
Starting point is 02:11:05 I'm making creamies And they You mentioned a few times At the Brisbane show And the crowd were not Understanding what you were talking about They were not into it at all Seriously
Starting point is 02:11:14 I was like Listen it through to the late part of the show You're not getting this I've mentioned two references To Vermont The world's greatest US state and I'm getting nothing up here. What is wrong with you people?
Starting point is 02:11:25 Queenslanders. Tweet me if you love Vermont, come on. I say from a safe distance. I love Brisbane. Me too. It was great. Anyway, that brings us to the end of the episode. Thanks so much for listening.
Starting point is 02:11:35 It's ended up being one of our longest ones in a while. I'm sorry. People love it long. I'm sorry. To absolutely nobody. Boom, I'm a bad boy. Goodbye. Later.
Starting point is 02:11:46 See you next week. What the fuck? 201, you put in a little, What the fuck? But, ladies, see you next week. Later's. Edit that other bit out. I don't want to change.
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