Two In The Think Tank - 21 - Sir Edmund Hillary

Episode Date: March 16, 2016

Jess takes us back to the 50s to learn about Sir Edmund Hillary - the first person to reach the top of Mt Everest (pretty big mountain). Learn about his childhood, his forgotten sidekick, and hear Matt do a very strange impression of Jess.Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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the GI Bill. Now is the time. Mycomputercareer.edu See you! Hello and welcome to DoGo on My Name is Dave Warnke and I am joined across the table by Matt Stewart Aliment. Oh yes, hello. He faked us out. He did a quick point to Jess and then he moved it around to me. Number one. Number two. Number two. And number three is... Sucked in number three, Jesus shit. Just Perkins, you are in Matt's words, a piece of shit. Oh no.

Number three, number three, the third to die. I'll be the last one living. Well, probably. You're two days older than I am, but women generally have a better life expectancy. Yeah. A couple of years usually around. Yeah, so.

Sorry Dave. How's your health, Jess? You feeling good? Pretty good. I was actually just thinking before that what I might do later this afternoon is go cancel my gym membership. So yeah, my health's tip top, thank you. We really, what?

So how? The health is already achieved perfection. You went a clopped fitness. What next? There's no maintenance on that. Once you hit peak fitness, you're just there forever. That is the shitdest thinged fitness. What next? There's no maintenance on that once you hit peak fitness you're just there forever That is the shitest thing about fitness isn't it that you lose it so quickly. How long have you been a member? Um, oh a few years actually. Oh, okay. That's pretty good

You've done the time. It's not like you've done your two free trials and you're like not for me No, that's smart if you if you do your two free trials and you quit it most people do your two free trials Somehow get signed up to a direct debit and it just rolls on and you go, oh shit, my name's coming out of my account. Yeah, it's that money comes out and I can't remember the last time I was there. Oh, so how I was going to say how often are you going? Well, at various times I've been a frequent gym goer, but now that I know that comedy's bloody taken off You're like I've got a podcast. I don't need to look good. They only hear me It's a worst sentence in my life. I also do a radio show. They only hear me exactly

See you've been doing you can spend that money on the location lessons exactly So you can learn to say kittens I believe is your weakness Learn how to say yes probably what how to say S properly. What? Learn to say what, probably? S. S. S. S.

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You can do that. That is true both elbows one at a time. I can I can lick my forearm Just pretty good. Oh, I'll have to put this in the list of things to tweet out But I'll tweet a photo of me tweet licking my elbow. I thought it's funny when Dave told me that proudly. I'm like, yeah, good on you. Everyone can. And then like, oh, I just need a mouse. If my tongue was a little longer, you lick the mic. I'm licking the mic. I'm trying to lick the... You are so funny. Your tongue is going in the wrong way. Yeah, that's it.

It's like you're looking into a mirror and you're confused. I'm like a confused puppy. I'm hyper flexible. I can put my hands flat on the ground. I can actually go beyond my feet. With straight legs. Straight legs. I can touch my knees.

That's pretty good. Just sitting down. Can you touch them now? Ooh. It's funny. It's funny to say I'm flexible. That's because three or four new years ago, I made the resolution to become more flexible Oh, it's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. I'm gonna do it every night like Dave. No. It's so easy. And also, you wake up feeling less crumbled.

Oh, that's good. I'm such a cross sleep pretty much in a bowl. Yeah, so if you stretch before bed, you're guaranteed your back will feel better. I'm really bad at being consistent with things though, because I even printed out this, this is so low. There was, I think it's called, Bons Guns and Abs, 30-day challenge.

Nice. Bons Guns and Abs. Yep, good. So you do push-ups, squats, and like leg lifts for your abs. And it's a 30-day challenge, so it increases slightly day by day. And I was like, cool. And I printed it out and stuck it on my mirror. I was like, that'll, because I look at that a lot.

My mirror. I was like, I'll, it'll inspire me to do it. And I'll like cross it off each day. How many days do I have crossed off? Three. One. I've done the first one. How long ago was that?

A couple of weeks ago. Oh dear. Is it still there on the mirror? Do you feel guilty every time you look at it? Yeah. I'm still going to translate to that too. You can go right back and say it again. Yeah, exactly.

I think what you have to do is cancel the gym membership, but then start doing the guns buns. And abs challenge, yeah you're start doing the guns buns. Yeah. And the guns bunz and abs. That's pretty great. This is like, component on the run for abs. And, and, and, thumbs. It's close.

Oh yeah, guns buns, thumbs. That's very good. Now, Jess, is this report that you're about to give us on a topic, anything to do with fitness? Well, yeah, I was going to say this does kind of tie in a little bit, so I'm a bit kind of a student. Amazing, because Matt and I don't know what you're about to school us in, but we'll usually start with a question to get us into or onto the topic.

What's it gonna be? This week, who do you think is the greatest explorer in history? Oh my God, there's so many. Explorer being a explorer of land or of sea or of mind The mind just people who you thinking well, I'm thinking the names. I don't know anything about any of these people really But the names I think of a James Cook Magellan Ferdinand Magellan the guy What's the government Christopher Columbus is the other one? That's the ocean, aren't you? Oh what this is land, a very pointy high land.

Oh, man, Everest, is it... Is it the New Zealand guy? Yeah, what was his name? What have I gone? You'll notice that I'm a man. It's a Tism lyric. Of course, the fuck? In Never Gonna Be an Old Man River, he says,

Someone had Everest in his veins, and it's the guy's name. What is it? I don't know why I've gone blank. It's a guy's name, and this is a famous guy. I know this guy. And I kinda want to see. Hillary had Everest in his veins.

Very good. Edmund Hillary, very good. And he got there. His sidekick, who people always overlook, was that Samson the donkey? What, you mean Simpson and his donkey? That's so disrespectful. Oh my god.

The actual human. You mean Simpson and his donkey from the glibble? Tenzing nor gay. Tenzing nor gay. I had a Sherpa, yeah, of course. And the other guys who probably do all the work. I did a lot of the work. I didn't know he had a Sherpa. Yeah, of course and the other guys who probably do all the work To a lot of the work. I didn't know he had a sidekick. You thought he had a fucking donkey at a rest I was getting a couple of stories confused there. You were. Oh, this is Samson with the hair

Simpson and his donkey and Hillary on mountain very different He would have been a mountain goat if anything. Yeah So we had a Sherpa. Why is he a Sherpa famous? Well, he wasn't his Sherpa. He was a person also on the expedition. Right. Okay. Yeah. That's right. There was a two-man expedition. There was more than that. Much more than that. Oh, I guess we're going to find this one. We're going to find so much out. Shall I begin? The topic. I don't know anything about this. Well, see, it's interesting. I think I

must have done it in primary school something so obviously I will cover the actual like their expedition You know a bit more detail, but what I found kind of interesting was to tease life as well like he's actually been It was a really interesting guy. So we'll have a bit of a bloody look I never had thought of him as an explorer either. Yeah, I know. I thought of him as a climber, but that makes sense. He's exploring you. He's a bit tricky term, but if I said who's the best mountain climber, it might give

it away. Was he the first person to climb Everest or the first white person to climb Everest? First person. Right. Cool. Well, yeah. Recorded person. Yeah, maybe they'd got to the top. Yeah, some guys like I'm not gonna write this down or anything like 2000 years ago. Made it. Just went for a jog up the mountain. Yeah. Which I call. I think it would be pretty downfall.

The dumpy's hill. This is what I call it. And I'm dumpy. Yeah, I'm dumpy. That's's what I call that because it's just no big deal. I joke up about every morning. Dumpy's Hill. It's just my morning exercise. I wonder if they're big hills somewhere in the world is what I used to say to his friends. Are you dreaming to beg? Sorry. Heading around the world. But um, Dumpy. Dumpy's Hill. So Edmund Hillary, Hill. So Edmund Hillary, born in New Zealand in 1919, he's just a year of my grandfather's birth. Not that anyone needs to know that, but I'm attracted in there anyway. Jesus, I hope Jess said it, so now. Just really clean. I added all of his sentences out. Do. Yeah, it's this podcast. It's heavily edited. It's just you and I. I'm sure people would. No one knows I'm here. Hello. I'm trapped in the studio

I don't think Dave gets it none of this is going down He's Mike is off Anyway, so he's born in New Zealand in 1919 sister June was two years older than him He had a brother Rex who was one year younger great name that needs to come back. So Rex week on in 1920 the same year as my both of my grandfathers. Matt Does anyone need to know that please? No, no, no one needs to know. It's not making this podcast about your family Now their father his name was Percival Another great name was a really strict hard parent who Edmond admits he was quite scared of those sort of feared their dad As you should I think you think everyone should fear their dad.

I think you should fear everything and everyone. I think you should live your life and fear personally. That's why I've got this big tattoo that says fear. Who can you trust? No one. Trust no one. Trust no one. I've got the no fear tattoo with those weird eyes.

I've got it done in the mid-90s. No regrets. I've got a... I've got... a member with that dog. Lighting his fart. Musical... What is the... Colorscore? It's got a name that dog fart thing. Does that...

And it was Regmon Basser as the artist. Dog fart. Dog 2. It's called something like that. Dog 2. That's great. I had a manbo pencil case with that dog fart on it. Did you? I was pretty popular. Can I do a baller? Um with that dog fart on it. Did you? I was pretty popular.

Can I do a baller? Can I go on? Please. I don't know if someone else is going to go on. Can I please? Yeah. So it's a pretty tough childhood I'm mad at. He was a pretty small weedy child. I imagine him much like a small Dave Wanakie.

Oh God. He was a very skinny child. He remembers being quite lonely at school and not having many friends. That I wasn't tying to you. Just a small thing. We've had quite a lot of friends, thank you. Yeah.

Measuring, and otherwise. Yeah. That's funny. Something I thought was quite cute was that, in an interview, his sister said, one of their father's rules was that the children went to bed early and went straight to sleep. But Edmond was a big reader. He loved reading and he'd stay awake until like one or two in the morning reading.

I love the idea of dad saying everyone go to bed and go to sleep straight away. He comes in in five minutes, if you're still awake, he's gonna yell at you until you fall asleep. Yeah, go to sleep. Go to sleep. Are you asleep yet? Are you sleeping? I am now, how about now? How about now? You're sleeping? I'm gonna kill ya. Dad, you're making me really tired with this tie-rate. What's that you're talking? You're probably not talking in your sleep, that I am.

Maybe that's where tie-rate comes from, from the word tired. Dave's face was contorted at very scary at that tie-wax stage. It is nice to see Dave fire up. He's only second-posed. There's not much that will fire me up. One thing is kids not gonna sleep straight away. Went old on command. On command and sleep. Right? Dave's children are little chickens and he used to them really going down. He just blocks out the sun and it's all he has to do

to block out the sun. What's out? I'm way there going. Anyway, so he would stay up late reading and when his father found out that he was staying awake late reading he was furious but instead of stopping Edmund just tied a piece of street around his toe that led to his sister's bed like she was in a separate room but like I think they were sort of joined and when she would hear or see their father coming she'd pull on the string and he would like put his books away and pretend to be asleep. Okay so the dad's not noticing a big string. A long, big string.

He's far more string just kids being awake. Not that. Not okay. He draws a line. That's got a short fuse but a long string. That almost made sense. Now he was quite a small weedy 11-year-old boy and he struggled when he first attended the Oakland Grammar School and he remembers a PE teacher sorting them into groups and him being sorted with the other misfits as they refer to which is nice.

And this was the beginning as he says of his lifelong feeling of inferiority. With everything he goes on to achieve, he always feels inferior. That's fucked. But there's a guy who achieves stuff in life, guys and girls. They're normally people with daddy issues. We're gonna achieve things. Oh yeah, okay, that makes sense. Did I say usually or anything like that made it sound like I know that that's a fact? I've just heard anecdotally that

high achievers often have daddy issues. Daddy issues want to get the approval from their dad so they really strive for great heights. Yeah literally sometimes. Much like Edmund Hillary. No, no, I wasn't thinking of him. I was thinking of Buzz Aldrin, yep. He went even higher, Dave. Read a fucking book. Read it, mate. Read it. Well, I would, but my dad keeps coming in and yelling at me every time I've get one out. I don't know what your excuses for not a child are great relationship with my dad. Still do. And that's why I'm quite mediocre in all respects. So really as a father yourself now, you need to just bring the pain. It's already being done. Good, good.

Nothing ever he brings things to me like he's the baby, but he'll bring some like a painting or something. Look what I did, Dad. This is the shittest thing I've ever seen. You know I like sculpture. Get back out there. Jesus, I know you don't have the fine motor skills to sculpt things yet, but come on.

You're a shiwet man. Yeah, by your age, my wife started written like 30 symphony, so I assume I don't know that for sure, but I assume that. What's your excuse, shiwet head? Yeah, go fucking, I'm not looking at you again I don't know that for sure, but I assume that. I assume. What's your excuse, shithead? Yeah. Go fucking, I'm not looking at you again until you've got at least 30 symphonies

or equivalent in sculptors. Yeah. No, I will not buy you building materials or a piano. Yeah. I think the equivalent of 30 symphonies in sculptures is 45 sculptures. Yeah, you're like... I think yes, one symphony, two 1.5 sculptures.

Or four sculptures. Like if you're gonna... If you're gonna round them up. You're gonna round them up, maybe teach them. I mean, it depends. If they're pre-made sculptors, you probably need about 12. But if you're actually teaching people from scratch, guys have never sculpted, then it'd be about four sculptors

equals 30 symphonies. Alright, young man, you got it? Did you write that down? Yeah. I know you can't write yet. Oh yeah, is that right? You can't write. Yeah, another thing you can't do. Got a bit.

Now. So your son would obviously be in this misfits group as well, of course. I remember that. So in 11 is this weedy little kid, but by 15, Your son would obviously be in this misfits group as well of course So 11 is this weedy little kid but by 15 having worked on his father's honey farm. They'll be keepers He now towers well over six foot. Oh, see just that's what you should do You should work on a beef farm and then hope for a growth spurt and then you'll be big and strong I'm already big and strong and And your buns will be amazing, apparently. Oh, Dave, it's the term that Jess is bun- You mean in reference to my lack of fitness, Scotch-er?

Yeah. I thought you meant in terms of making my dad proud and I'll never do it, Dave. Buns, guns, and thumbs. So you're, I mean, there are some things, like, imagine if you just stick to that, you get really fit buns, really fit thumbs, really fit guns, but then just like these weird, tiny four arms, like shriveled up calf muscles, maybe a real misshapen freak.

You've done well not to stick to that. Great. So anyway, back on the beef arm. He's on the beef arm. How tall is he? He's over six foot and he's only 15. So he grew in taller. And he just became really physically strong. Like he was a very strong person. Oh, physically strong.

Yeah, not mentally or emotionally. Still very weak emotionally. Oh, big time. But physically, quite strong. Which, you know, I hold that above any other type of strength Me too. He got in his final year at school. He went on a school trip to a volcanic plateau in the center of the North Island. It was the first time he'd seen snow and this trip, like they did a bit of skiing, they

just sort of like did a little bit of climbing up little hills and stuff. Like not big mountaineering climbs or anything like that, but they were just sort of like did a little bit of climbing up little hills and so like not not big mountaineering climbs or anything like that but they were just sort of mucking around it was sort of the trip was the beginning of his passion for climbing that's sort of how he even puts in. Funny that the first ever man to climb Mount Everest didn't see snow until he was like 17 or 18. Yeah. It's not like some guy that's growing up there. Wait but you did say there was another guy. Was was was Hillary oh we'll get to that but I'm wondering was the some guy that's growing up there. Wait, but you did say there was another guy. Yes. Was Hillary, oh, we'll get to that.

But I'm wondering, was the second guy, whose name I've already forgotten? Tensing. Tensing. Was he like the Buzz Aldrin? He did the, he stepped up second. What do you mean, like? Like was he the second guy off the, uh,

the rocket ship at the top of the mountain? Yeah, it was those two together. Together they stepped there at the same time. Oh well there's a big debate about that. Oh cool. Yeah. Yeah. Um, tensing. That's a bit of sizzling. Right now that's a very rarely right anything down but I'm right now. TNZ, ING, tensing. So four years later he's finished school and both the Hilary boys so he's brother Rex they're working on their father's honey farm when World War II breaks out. And originally Edmund signed up for the Air Force. However, the entire family had recently joined a fringe Christian faith called Radiant

Living. Seems a little colty. But it's actually, I looked it up, the whole sort of idea is this balance of faith, but also physical fitness and health. So it's all about healthy eating and stuff as well. It's kind of combining all of the diet fads now with religion, which I think is what the diet fads are missing. Yeah, I think that's also combining all the things that people don't find annoying about

people. Exactly. Hey, what do you want to chat about? Oh, please. Radiant living. Nothing with the Hillary's. Don't talk to the Hillary. Don't talk about it. Don't make small talk with the Hillary's.

Now, part of this radiant living was like it was a pacifist belief, like so they were against the war. And Rex Hillary spent the war behind wire is the way it was noted. It seems like some sort of incarceration as a conscientious objector. So he was like, I, this conscription was around then, so he's going, no, I won't have a bar of it because I'm a conscientious objector. So that's Rex. Rex, his brother.

And somehow their father argued to have Edmund exempt as well, which is weird because then Rex is in some sort of prison, but not really a prison, but Edmund's fine. I couldn't really follow what happened there, but basically both boys were like, no, I'm not going to war. But that kind of troubled Edmund. He felt a bit ill about it. It's the technical term being ill. Yeah, it would be tricky knowing that other people are doing it. Yeah.

But also man like I just don't want to be a part of that bullshit. Yeah, but he kind of did. And he was starting to lose faith in his religion. He was bored with his life. Like he was sort of feeling very like this is it, which he wasn't happy with. And he convinced his father to let him have time off from radiant living and he did join the Air Force as a navigator.

It's gonna take us a lot of people join the army at the time because of an adventure because I feel like it's a purpose. Exactly. So he joins the Air Force as a navigator and which is what my grandfather was in the second world war. At one point in 1919, yeah. Oh there we go. Maybe they think. I'm related to Sir Edventyla. Yeah, oh there we go. Maybe I'm related to Sir Edmantieler. Oh my god. You're just living a quiet country life when I met him Really what you've never brought this up It's amazing two and two weeks your the grandson of Walt Disney on the grandson of Edmantieler Just who knows who your great-grandfather is who knows Well actually my great-grand uncle was James Gellan who was a prime minister of Australia. That's an uncle so that's

completely irrelevant. Is that true? That is true. Hang on, have you not brought that up? Matt doesn't seem impressed. I am suitably impressed. Yeah, who had like one term? It wasn't great. Depression didn't help. Yeah, it's hard to be popular in tough times. I remember very little about him though So please no follow up questions. I'm just impressed. I really am. Please do go on Right, so he's a navigator in the Air Force and the routine search and rescue missions aren't exciting enough for him So with another airman Ron Ward. He restored an old boat and between patrols. He goes hunting for crocodiles During an accident on the boat that they'd made,

they'd like something exploded. He got really severely burned and was sent home due to his injury. So he was sent back to his aunt. Nice sense, I was drawn towards the snow. It's nice and cool, can't get burnt the snow, can you? You can get frostbite and lose the limb though. So how properly burned he was really injured? In future interviews it's nothing all that visible, like it's not all over his arms or face or

anything like that but apparently the injuries were quite bad, I think it's like upper arm. And over the next few years when he wasn't beekeeping with his brother he was on the southern Alps in New Zealand. So he was preparing to climb Mount Cook, which is the highest mountain in New Zealand, which is 3724 meters. I'm just a little sizzle though, because we know what he's gonna do later. Everest is 8,848 meters. Wow, yeah, I had no idea.

I was like, it's 3,000, I'm like, good. It's pretty big, but it's not ever- What's Australia's highest one? Cause the upstate, you know what that is? I'm not, I was just, good. It's pretty big, but it's not ever right. What's Australia's highest one? It's Cossiostia, do you know what that is? I'm not, I was just thinking about myself. I bet it's 2000 or something. Oh, I can be. Okay, do we say bigger or?

Because museums famously got big mountains. Great ski resorts in Australia's got kind of shitty ones, but maybe that's a good place. Or again, about 2800 meters. If I'm out Cossiostia but maybe that's a good place. About 2800 meters for Mount Cossi Asco. I'm gonna say 2650. Mount Cossi Asco has a height of 2,228 meters. Both have a shot at prices right, we'd both be out. Wow, so we've got this PC little,

I've walked to the top of Cossi Asco. You can just walk it, there's a trail. Really? You don't need to climb it, I've just walked up. Yeah, right. So you did a quarter of an Everest. Oh. That's pretty good, you used to do that four times,

and you've been making it. And I was like a teenager too. I imagine I have four gym members here. I imagine how good you'd be now. Well, I imagine how good you would have been at your peak when you're actually visiting the gym. Yeah, four. Imagine how good you will be when you have your guns,

buns, and thumbs. Yeah, peak physical. They Four. Imagine how good you will be when you have your guns, buns and thumbs. Yeah. Physical leather, three key ingredients. So it's such a fun. Oh yeah. I'm sure you're about to tell us about that. About my guns, buns. No, about how Edwin Hillary worked out his guns,

buns and thumbs every day for a couple of months before he went. No, he seemed to just be climbing all the time and just like, you know, it's shorter climbs, just doing sections. He reached the peak of Mt. Cook on an expedition in 1947. So he did that and he returns the following year to attempt their previously unclimed south ridge of Mt. Cook. I don't know if he was successful

there but let's assume he was. So he was about 28 then? 47. year oh 1947 yeah 28 She's quite old. What's he doing with his life? Keeping and climbing. It's being in the second world war. I know I imagine that that took a couple of years of your life Good call. Yeah. How many world wars have you been? Have you been to Jess? I like that year of going to a world war I've been there. Been there on that. Yeah. In 1951 he joined a New Zealand party to central the central Himalayas, which the trip wasn't actually all that successful for him, because what sort of happened, this is entirely from memory, from watching a documentary. They were in this group, there was at least four of them,

all New Zealanders, and one of his buddy, George, stops because his feet were so cold, they didn't have adequate footwear. So, his feet were really cold, so they stopped to try and sort that out, and the other two kept going. And Edmund Hillary was like, they'll wait for us. They'll wait, but they didn't, they just kept going and Edmund Hillary was like, well they'll wait for us. They'll wait but they

didn't, they just kept going. So Edmund and George have just set up a camp and the others like came back and like, oh yeah we made it, we made it to the top. So we can all head back down now. Yeah and he felt really disappointed that he hadn't made it and like angry at himself, he wasn't really mad at the others, he was angry at himself. He's pissed at George. He's probably a little pissed at George but he didn't say that so but all it's done is like just pushed him forward in his mind he's just even more like set on succeeding and climbing. He called his dad that night and said I made it I made it a fair bit of the way. His dad said. Not good enough. It means nothing. Why did you call me to tell me what that you failed again?

The bees need you and you're not here. You let them down the bees. You're not even making it to the top. And plus if my time zone calculations are correct, you are definitely past your bedtime. Got a sleep. Got a sleep. Are you ready to get in, just yelling over the phone. So the following year, 1952, he was invited by climbing legend Eric Shipton, you know, that legend. The great Shipton.

To attempt Everest. Right now traditionally Everest had always been attempted from the north, which was the Tibetan side. And the British had already tried and failed seven times to scale the mountains that side. That's a British. All the a British. And the route to Everest was closed because China had taken over control of Tibet,

and Nepal only allowed one expedition per year. And a Swiss expedition had attempted to reach the summit in 1952, but turned back by bad weather and exhaustion, 800 feet or 240 meters from the summit. That's so annoying. You's not gonna get so close It's like a Birkenwil thing again like you're so close But they were tired 240 meters. I imagine the top it tied and the weather was bad Oh, yeah, it was bad at the top of Mount Everest. You're fucking losers Of course, it's gonna bad. Put a second jacket on.

But he put a smile on your dial and let's get this done. They obviously were getting very well with their parents. Pieces of shit. Classic Swiss. Just quit us. Put a smile on your dial and get it done. It's great. Hashtag.

Classic quitters. No, it's not worth a hashtag. Don't force a mad, don't force it. You've been told, you've been told that. Let it happen naturally. We'll get to a hashtag, okay? Just let it happen. Hashtag natural hashtag, okay? For example, yeah, that was a nice experience. No, I'm very good at them. So yeah, they're sort of restricted because they can't, the Nepal only allow one exhibition a year and so they've already tried and they got so close and they didn't. So during just a routine trip in the Alps, Hillary discovered that he and his friend George, George Low, had been invited for the approved British 1953 attempt. Right, so they're like, okay, well, the Swiss have fucked it.

The Brits are going to have a go. For the eighth time. Yeah, but from a different angle this time, because they've tried from the Tibetan side, which is the north side, which is apparently how it's always been traditionally attacked. Now they're going to try from Nepal, because they can't get in from Tibet because China's like no thank you. Hey I feel a bit guilty about my little outburst against the Swiss. Look I just want to let the Swiss know that I have Swiss blood in me. That's true. Yeah and I just, there's no hard feelings a little bit, you know, I'm one of you. I can say that sort of stuff

please Don't Go on neutral on me. I know that's your your way. Don't wage neutrality on me Just keep on keeping on Swiss yet dumb cunt That was a sweet Burn that B-E-R-N, which is the capital of Switzerland, everybody. Thank you. Thank you.

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Now is the time. Mycomputercareer.edu Um, so he's been invited to be part of the British 1953 attempt, right? And he immediately accepts, but he feels a lot of guilt about staying away from home even longer than planned and leaving his father and brother to attend to the bees. Like he really did feel guilty about the bees. Oh god, he's like, oh yeah, he's a lot of work for dad and Rex. I mean, as far as beekeeping, I mean, it's in the type of keeping bees. How hard could that be?

I don't know, I don't know. It must have at least three bees. So he feels quite... One bridge man. So he feels... Edmond, your bees getting really pissed. Where are you? It's just flying around in circles.

It's really bored. He wants you to come play with them. He's got so much honey in his box or whatever. Big box of honey. Oh, she's eating. Just as a face made me feel weird So he sends a telegram to his brother and father and I have the telegram it says oh Can I say stop where the full stop sir?

Because presumably that's how it would have been. Oh, yeah, oh Yes, just like on the sound of music. Yeah So he says Invited shipton Everest expedition stop I could not refuse Stop, wait, can I stop you you got it? You've got to do it in a more of a Sydney shine bed kind of voice Well, no because he's a Kiwi too. Yeah, but that's how they just read him in the olden days. I'm not doing a voice Yeah, fuck you. I definitely would have I always I'm a dancing monkey for you I do bad English accents at the drop of the hat. Okay. All right. I'll do it But I'm guilty to do it. The other thing I could think to do is like a 1940s voice. Yeah, perfect

Well, that made almost 50s. So I'm just I'm gonna stop you right there. That was more of a 1940s voice I just want to run the cell. I'm just going to stop you right there. That was more of a 1940s voice. Sorry. Oh, so he said- It's funny, we've done two 1950s episodes back to back. Can I read the fucking telegram, please?

Thank you. He said, I can't do an accent as well though, in the 40s voice. I'd either do a Kiwi voice or a 40s voice. Invited Chiptan, Ivorosticspedition. Stop, stop. So it's the same. Stop. Stop.

Oasis Fine. Stop. Could not refuse. Stop. Please forgive earring sun. It's supposed to be earring. And should be for gauve. For gauve. For gauve.

Er earring. Sun. Oh,ring and should be for golf for gov for gov ear earring son oh this is indescribable maybe you should just do it do we start that again oh I'm doing his disappoint you guys okay point was I've done the dumb accent the point was he said, he can't refuse. Please forgive me for being an earring son. I'm sorry, so is dad, but I've got a climb. My heart wants to climb. PS, say hi to my B for me.

Yeah, buzz. Oh, that's a great name for a B. Thank you. I'm good at hashtags and naming pets. And naming bees. I've only got one name in its buzz, but I'm very good at saying it when I need to. I'm Jess Perkins. Hi. I'm someone talking to Jess. I'm being Jess being someone else. Hi. I've got a. Fuck. Can anyone else tell that I'm moving to either side of the microphone at the moment? Well, um, Jess's friend also named Jess.

I would call your B buzz. Oh, you're so good at naming B's Jess. Well, you keep me down. What has happened? I don't know, but I think Matt's broken. Yeah, he seems to be. I'm not sure. Oh, you're so good at naming bees, Jess. Well, you keep me here. What has happened?

I don't know, but I think Matt's broken. Yeah, he seems to be. He doesn't. Yeah. And, seeing. What are you on? What did you get there from? I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry. But it was also, like, I think we're going to agree so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. But it was also like I think we got I think we got a great day if that was very moving. I'm going to move my chair a bit further back and just listen for a bit. No, no, no, you still need to contribute. That's too far back. Now we can't hear you. Just stay in place and let Jess talk. So he's a polarizzo's family but he's also like he knows that's his dream.

Yeah, I got to do it. Like you can't say no to that opportunity. I think that's fine. he knows that's his dream. Yeah, I got to do it. Like you can't say no to that opportunity. But you know that's right. I think that's fine. So, um, Shipton was named as the leader of this expedition, but he was replaced by a guy called John Hunt. What happened to Shipton? He's the legend.

He was just, he was still there, but he wasn't the leader. For some reason. A bit of a mutiny on the hill. A bit of a mutiny. But no, I think he was going to be okay with that. The mountain. The mountain. So John Hunt's now the top dog.

John Hunt, top dog. And Hillary considered pulling out but both John Hunt and Shipton talked him into staying on the expedition. So he was intending to climb with his mate George Lowe but Hunt named two teams for the assault as they're called. Tom, a soldier ascent. It says assault. Wow. Because they're assault, as they're called. Tom, borderline? Assault or a scent? It says assault. Assault, because they're assaulting the top of it.

They gotta really go at it. Assault melts ice. Yeah, I'm gonna say that's your sprinkle salt after I learned that from home alone. After you shovel the snoffy driveway, your sprinkle salt on it. There you go. So there's two teams.

Tom Bordillen, Bordillen. Tom Bordillon, Baudillon. Tom Baudillon. Baudillon and Charles Evans and Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgo. So they're team one. Team one, well I guess like they're two teams, two teams of two. So you've got Tom and Charles Ed and Tenny.. Tennie. Tennie. I don't know how you would sing, what'd you call him? Zinger. Oh, so much, like that's such a good name, Tensing Norge.

Tensing, yeah. It's the only thing I've got written on my piece of paper, it's how much I love it. It's a great name. Tensing Norge. So many opportunities for nicknames there. So many. Tenso, Tennie, T-bag, Tenzingo, Zinger, Xinger. So there's so many. There's heaps of them.

Is there. Whatever. So there's two teams. Two teams are two. But do they go completely different directions or do they both sort of go the same? I think that yeah. Same side of the mountain or is they separate?

I don't think they're completely separate. I think they may not be like all four of them together at one point, but they're kind of tackling different sections in different ways. Assaulting different sections. So Tansy Norge who he's forging this friendship with is he like a local Nepalese guy. He's he's a Nepalese born I think Indian Sherpa mountaineer so he's one of the She has to go you want yeah no the Sherpa is it I don't get a sidekick and no it's easy to back It retroactively but I would definitely back them as my favorite team of the two teams. Yeah, the one with the mountain here What the other guys count

I Know how I feel about it count. It's how day you bring though. I was having a really lovely day And then you brought up a countance. I'm sorry Specializing in tax How dare you well it makes you feel any better just apparently a lot of people die whilst climbing man-ever-so. Good. Hope they died.

No, seriously, lots of people have. So the hunt expedition, total, how many people do your reckon would be involved in an expedition? Okay, so when you say they're in teams of two, do they also have a team as well? They've got like a support team as well. Oh, alright, so I thought there was just the two of them. These are the main climbers. Oh, right. But I don't know.

How many do I have like a two, a guy each helping them? Matt, how many do you have? Yeah, I reckon you'd have a pH. Mm-hmm. Trekking, do you reckon you'd have 400 people? No, definitely not. They have 400 people. There's no way that's possible.

Are you serious? Yeah, it makes no sense. So they had 300. They're on the mountain with them. 300 and six two porters. I'm guessing that I'm a guessing I'm guessing that either at base camp or even lower down like it's Alright Dave I need you to give me a Judy for each of these obviously that all have different jobs. What are the four hundred jobs?

That's a thing. They've got three and six supporters. Porters are just ones carrying shit guy carrying the boots jobs. That's a thing they've got three and a six-foot port is port is just one's carrying shit. Guy carrying the boots carrying the ropes that's the second guy. Guy carrying goggles. Yep. Guy carrying pants. Guy washing the pants. Okay. That's not a carry it's a washer. Guy washing underpants. Guy carrying underpants. Guy digging holes for them to take shits in. The understudy for the guy digging holes. Yeah exactly. Unastodied. So you say how it adds up. You know, you see how you need their official bio. When I asked the question, I'm like, there's no way we're gonna think it's fine, but now, yeah, they'll be pretty easy. Official biographer. Photographer.

Unofficial biographer. Unofficial photographer. Yeah. The list list it just goes on it on they had about 20 Sherpa Guides 10,000 pounds of baggage and it was really seen as a team effort like belly this is it's it's I would I would say that history sees it and other way yes and as far as teams go how many teams have 400 people yeah Yeah, I know. That seems a bit ridiculous, but apparently that's the case. It feels like, of course, they made it. 400 people. You could have just had 400 people holding hands.

The bottom guy is at the bottom. The top guy is at the top. They're just holding hands. Yeah. Just a bloody chain of people. I'm holding out my hands in case you guys know what that might look like. Imagine there's a guy at that end holding my hand and I got that end holding my hand and each of those guys are also holding. Times that by 400. I don't think

that'll make it to the top of an 8.8 kilometer mountain. Well I don't know if you're doing the maths right Dave. Jess? I think you're right. Yeah. All right, Dave's a shut the fuck up. I'm so sorry, Matt. I'm so sorry that he felt the need to contribute. When I say it was a team effort, though, it's kind of the way that they break up different parts of the exhibition.

So for example, George Lowe supervised the preparation of the, I'm going to say this definitely like the Lot's Face, which is this huge ice face for climbing. So he sort of supervised that. Edmund Hillary forged a route through part of an ice fall. So it's kind of like they're all taking turns

in being the leader and working together as a team. Cause the idea is just that we get to the top because nobody's done it, right? You look concerned, what's wrong? Yeah, and I was just a and who's paying 400 people? Yeah, it seems excessive. So what's about the money with you, Dave? So the exhibition set up Base Camp in March of 1953.

So maybe I'm doubting 400 people are in Base Camp, but there's a support group at Base Camp. They're there in March 1953. So Edmunds, 34 years old. Yeah. Still time for us guys. There's still time. Well, not much for you, buddy. You just have to find 400 mates. So they work quite slowly up to its final camp at the South Coal, which is at 25,900 feet, which is 7,890 meters. So that's really high.

It's quite high, yeah. And on the 26th of May, I prefer quite high. Really high was a bit excessive. Quite high. More than three Maccoscos. It's quite high. It's quite high. Just which just strolled up.

Yeah, I strolled up really easy. We took a pack of two. So three strolls. And I was like 13, just anyway. And how much ice and snow was there? Not a lot. Yep, magical 39, you could easily do Everest. On the 26th of May, the other team, Bordillion and Evans, attempted the climb but turned back when

Evans' oxygen system failed. The pair had reached the south summit, which meant that they came within 300 vertical feet on 91 meters of the summit. Oh my goodness. Oh, they're 91 meters away. They didn't quite make it. I don't know how. It's obviously very icy up there, but maybe you could see it. Oh, man, I walked nine and one meters. Yeah, one day it's been so foggy. No, I don't think you could. I walked nine and one meters nearly every day. Do you walk it up? Sometimes. So, Oregon, you might even walk. So they just had to bail because without the oxygen, you obviously die. So, I reckon you might even walk. So they just had to bail because without the oxygen, you obviously die trying to get- Yeah, exactly.

So they turned around and came back, so that's when John Hunt then directed Edmund Hillary intending to go for the summit. He's like, go for it. Oh, God. So that was just a bit of luck there for Edo. I guess so in a way, but- I think they probably thought that all four of them would make it though. Probably.

Yeah, presumably they thought you're the ones who are going to go to the top. But the snow and wind held the peer back at the South Coal, which is that spot, which is at 25,900 feet. So they've still got like a long way to go. They had to wait there for another couple of days because the weather conditions were quite bad and they sat out on the 28th of May with support trio including George Low and a couple of others. So they pitched a tent at that spot on the 28th of May while their support group returned down the mountain. And on the following morning, Hillary discovered that his boots had frozen solid outside the tent.

So he spent two hours warming them up before he and Tensing attempted the final ascent and they were both wearing 30 pound or 14 kilo packs. She doesn't seem like a lot, 14 kilos. That's nearly all of Dave's weight. I know. And you're trying to climb up ice and rock and... And there's very little oxygen so you're yes you're really tired

You're exhausted, but I also think that every step is a battle. It's very dumb to leave your shoes outside in the snow Yeah, but it's rude not to yes I don't want to get I don't want to ruin the carpet. That's great, but how do you warm is he just Breathe in on him They're probably a little... What do you warm it to when you're in the snow? Little kerosene burner things are coming out. Probably, yeah, I wonder.

Put them on a fry pan. Now, I probably just breathe it on a bit. Using your very little air. Yeah, exactly. That's probably how you'd want to use your last breath. So the crucial move for the last part of the Ascent was a 40-foot or 12-meter rock face that was later named the Hillary step, was named after him. Because he saw a means to- Also a dance move. In the 1950s it got quite big in the Square Dance Halls.

Square Dance Halls. The Hillary step. What's it look like? I'm doing it right now. See that? And then, so that's sort of like your normal two step, but then he turns it into this. Oh! That was what changed it to the Hillary step. Yeah, I see.

See, it's worth it. Thank you for demonstrating. It's hard to do. It is. I learned that step took me about six years to learn. Do you think that, Dave, master, you do it over a 12-meter rock face? Yeah. That's the tough part, the bit where I jumped 12 meters at the end.

Sure. And one full tube. You jump, and you just saw it. Yeah. Well, step. So, Hillary saw these means to wedge his way up a crack in the face between the rock all in the ice. So they're just kind of, I'm not, what I like to imagine is, like they've got their back

against the rock and their feet and the ice and just like shuffling their way up. I don't think that's quite how it went, but in my head it is. So therefore in history that's how it happened. And in my head now that is also how it is. So therefore in history that's how it happened. And in my head now that is also how it is. Thank you. So they've made it to the top, they've made it to the summit. Oh yes, I'm proud. Apparently after getting through that 12 meter rock face it was fairly easy after that. Yeah. Apparently.

Comparatively easy. Yeah, must comparatively. Yeah, it must have been and in his narration the dreams come true. Tensignor gay stated that Hillary had indeed taken the first steps a top amount Everest despite Edmund Hillary himself quoting that both had reached the summit at the same time. So who got there first? Well, that's the thing. That was sort of widely debated. And I'll talk a bit more about that later as well. But it sounds like Hillary's saying both at the same time. We got there at the same time, but Tenzing's like, no, no, he was ahead of me. He got there first. Oh, that's quite... I like it that it's not one person claiming, no, I was there.

Yeah, that's a much nicer argument. No, no, no, no. Well, we did it together. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you, bud. Thank you bud. I couldn't possibly. No, no, no, no, no, we did it together. No, no, no, no, no, no, you were so much bought. Thank you, but I couldn't possibly know you hang up first. So they reach ever a 29,028 foot or 8,848 meter summit, the highest point on earth at 11.30 a.m. Yeah, it's uptime or morning tea. And as Hillary put it, a few more wax of the ice axe in the firm snow and we stood on top. A few more wax there, chaps.

They spent only 15 minutes at the summit. Hillary took the famous photo of Tensing posing with his ice axe, but since Tensing had never used a camera, Hillary's ascent went unrecorded. Isn't that funny? Neither did he never had a photo up there. However though, again according to Tensing's autobiography, which is called Man of Everest, when Tensing offered to take Hillary's photo Hillary declined and this is a quote. He said, I motioned to Hillary that I would now take his picture but for some reason he shook his head, he did not want it. I think bullshit. Wow. Surely you'd want your photo. Yeah but like I don't particularly I'm not really one for

selfies but it also feels like for the first time yeah. Even no no even now heaps of people have done it I'd still take a photo. Oh definitely you know? I don't know how to use a camera. Like, you put, it just pushes button. Pushes, you can't fuck it up that much. Crank, crank, crank. What do I mean, though? I would probably mean the days of the disposable whatever, you have to wind them on.

Crank, crank, crank, crank, and then. I don't think it was a disposable camera. And is it true that Sir Edmund Hillary took a piece up there? Oh, I don't know. Let's say yes. You ever come across that? You ever come across that? I mean, come across that in reading it, but.

I've read that before that he took a piss up there. I love that. I hope that's true. Matt, if you're Googling, can you please come? No, no, no, no, no. Let's just say yes. You definitely did it, because who needs truth? Yeah.

Now, tensing left chocolates in the snow as an offering and Hillary left a cross that he'd been given by John Hunt. And they took a few extra photos. And then, so like, photos from the top looking down the mountain, just like proof that they'd actually made it to the top. Yeah, imagine a lot of people would be, would be doubting it. Yeah, I'll allow them in.

Yeah, so they took a few extra photos. And then they had to take care on the descent after discovering that drifting snow had covered their tracks because originally they were just like, we'll just trace our own steps back. Because they'd sort of, they'd, you know, careful footings to get there safely. They're like, well, you know,

well, it's the way up, it'll work the way down. But the snow's covered it so they're being really careful. Now the first person that they met was Hilary's lifelong friend George Low, who had climbed up to meet them with hot soup. So the top? Not right to the top, this is on their way back down, so he probably got close.

What a legend. That did to me in my mind, that just makes it sound so easy. There's a guy just carrying a mug of hot soup, not spilling a drop. No, two mugs of soup. He's just walking up. Two bowls of soup. Oh, just walking up. Two bowls of soup. Oh, that's great. With some bread.

Got it all. But he's got bread on separate plates, so he's got it all up his arms. Crack pepper, sir. He's on a chairlift. I don't know why you guys didn't take this thing. He's on the chairlift. Weird.

Anyway, soup. As we alluded to before, there was always a lot of speculation as to who reached the summit first. A soup pissed on the summit first. Who pissed on the summit first. And who's shat on the summit first. I would like to be the first man to shit on all seven major summits of the year. Wow, what a goal.

Thank you, but please do go on. What were they thinking? Even the official documents stated that the men reached it together. That was sort of to appease, um, like, you know, the people of Nepal and the British and... Okay, so if... Just keeping everybody happy. If they reached it at the same time, why do we all know Sir Edmund Hillary's name

but not Tenzing Norge? People do know Tenzing Norge's name. You're just an uneducated piece of shit. I see, I knew that there was another guy, but I didn't know his name. Yeah, well... I didn't even know there was another guy. Maybe we didn't know his name. Yeah, I don't even know there was another guy Maybe we know it more because Edmund Hillary was a key way. I was gonna say that I reckon there's two things probably for us

One of them is that and the other one is that Edmund Hillary is white Exactly, I'll be time put like at the time But yeah, and at a tensing just just a lowly shurper man his father was a yak And the Tenzing's just a just a lowly shurper man. His father was a yak. Oh my god, that sauce is too long, man. Because that would have been big. His father's yak, I've been so impressed. You pours the three minutes. That's probably the yak.

Hurt her. No, because he... I heard that. No, because he... Edwin Hillary was one of the, at the time, one of the most famous men on the whole planet. It's an intense, nor gay, I believe, went on to climb Mount Everest several times. Yeah, I think he's a Sherpo, but... Well, he'd already, he'd been part of the expedition, the Swiss expedition before, who nearly got there as well.

And did Edwin Hillary ever go back? Not to the top. I don't know why he'd bother. No, he nearly got there as well. And did Edwin Hilary ever go back? Not to the top. I don't know why you'd bother. No, he'd been there, don't that. Unless it was just your gig, Sherp and... Sherp. But I, I'm so disappointed that we don't know why he better. I mean, Hilary is a great name, but tensing Norge.

Great name. Holy shit. It's one of the great names. That is a great name. Dave, why don't you do you write trivia questions? You've got to put that in. Tenzing Norge. Yeah, that's going to be a question next week.

He's the partner of whom, maybe. Yeah, good one. So, so there's apparently, like as they were on their way back down, coming back into Nepal, there was like banners and posters and stuff that depicted tensing, basically dragging. That is so good. Up the top. Obviously everybody in Nepal got their first.

Yeah. Everybody, because it's a British expedition, so everybody in Britain's like, we got their first. So for 30 years, these guys stuck to their gentleman's agreement and refused to say who would reach the summit first. In climbing terms, no one could have reached the peak alone, so they were like, nut we're a team, we got there together, which I think is quite nice. Until, it was only after his friends death in 1986, so Tensing died in 1986. Hillary felt able to speak freely, saying, finally, I just- I was even saying, fuck him. Finally, I got got a gutful of it I got tired of people saying

Tenzing had got to the top first so apparently he said I got there. Wow who cares? He got it out of gutful come on mate. So he did claim it. I think so yeah. Ah well in the end that whole nice he could have continued to say, no, we got there together. Who gives a fuck, really? I mean, like you say, you both,

neither of you could have got there without the other. Exactly, it was a team effort. Tenzing probably, to me, he's doing the bulk of the work. I'm imagining you being here. He's been up there before, he knows it, he's a mountaineer. Hillary's a beekeeper. I'm imagining it.

He is then dragged up. The Simpson's episode? Yes, exactly. I was thinking of the power source bars, but where the ship is at night drag home in a sleeping bag up. And when he like excuses them, they cartwheel down the mountain.

That's how I'm imagining it. Tensing is on the mountain, like he's just so good. So yeah, you're probably right. He probably got there first, but hey, Edmund's white or yeah or he was just behind him but like he was doing star jumps and like jogging on the spot like come on let's keep moving he's so slow no you're right this has been tough oh whoa that was tricky wasn't it yeah yeah that's probably it

I also that I just looked up tensing N Norway because I just felt he wasn't getting enough credit but him and Edmund were jointly named one of times 100 most influential people of the 20th century so that's so you got a little bit of credit which I'm happy for so news of the expedition reached Britain on the day of the coronation of Quenilis with the second and the press called the successful sent a coronation gift in return II and the press called the successful ascent a coronation gift In return the 37 members of the party That's so I just want to stop you there and say that's probably one of the only things that would knock

This event off the front page of the paper is a new queen Yeah, but it's funny that they called it a gift. That means the Queen owns it You've given that to it well the queen was queen was the one who... She owns what? The fact that somebody... You can't own a... No, she... If that was the gift to her, then she's the first person who have... assaulted the summit. You're right. Good job, Lizzie. And that's why we want to stay underneath her. I don't want to be underneath anybody, thank you. Hey, Jess, you think this episode more than any other?

We have just cut you off about the three words in a word sentence? Yeah. I'm so sorry. Do go on. In return, the 37 members of the party received the Queen Elizabeth II coronation medal with Mount Everest expedition engraved on the rim.

And the group was surprised by the international claim that they'd received upon arriving in Catmandu. So they get back to Catmandu and everybody's like, Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa from the British government for his efforts with the expedition. Now that made all these the one I think like the second highest one of the second highest achievements you can get and it's for bravery. That's kind of cool. Because he couldn't have been knighted as as he wasn't in the Commonwealth. Yeah, I'm sorry. Was it Nepal? No. So post-everest I want to talk a little bit about Edmund Hiller's life because he's done a lot, right? So he climbed 10 other peaks in the Himalayas on further visits in 1956, 1960 to 1961, and 63 to 65. He also reached the South Pole as part of the Commonwealth Trans and T Arctic Expedition, for which he led the New Zealand section. That was in 1958. So his

party was the first to reach the South Pole using motor vehicles. So there had been a couple of tricks in like 1911 and 1912 on foot, but they were the first to do it in cars. So it's like, well, which is way harder than walking. I just want to say in Antarctica, it's opposite where walking is easy but driving very difficult. Oh and takes much longer. Yeah of course. Okay. It takes a little while to put chains on the wheels. Okay. Yeah that's from the inconvenience no one wants to have to do. I'd rather just walk it. Yeah. Anyway, Hillary married Louise Mary Rose on the 3rd of September in 53, soon after he came back from Everest.

He was a shy man and he relied on his future mother-in-law to propose on his behalf. Oh wow. Yeah. That is not boating well for a relationship. Not good. How's the communication going in relationship? Well, so right as long as our mother-in-laws are around, we're fine. We had three children, Peter, Sarah and Belinda, and in 1975, while on route to join Hillary

in a village in Nepal where he was helping to build a hospital, Louise and their youngest daughter Belinda were killed in a plane crash and he kept Mandu airport shortly after takeoff. That's who's last is wife and the youngest child, which is very, very sad. Between 1977 and 1979, so a couple years after that, Hillary commentated aboard several Antarctic sightseeing flights operated by Air New Zealand. So they would do like sightseeing flights

and he would like be like a tour guide, I guess. It's kind of cool. So weird, but he was scheduled to commentate on the 28th of November 1979 the Air New Zealand flight 901 but had to pull out due to work commitments in the United States. He was replaced by his close friend Peter Mulgrove and the aircraft crashed into Mount a rubis in Antarctica killing all 257 people on board. He was supposed to be on that any... He could have his friends to his step up.

So that's already pretty bad. But then later Edmund Hillary married his friend's widow. Oh, they both lost partners in playing crashes. Yeah, and then they got married. Following, so after post-everest, he devoted much of his life to helping the Sherpa people of Nepal through the Himalayan Trust, which he founded in 1960. And so through his efforts, many schools and hospitals were built around the remote region of the Himalayas. I've got a list here. So they built 28 schools,

12 medical clinics, three air strips and two hospitals. That's pretty great. That's pretty great. That's pretty great. Edmund Hillary died on the 11th of January in 2008, died of a heart failure at the Auckland City Hospital, and it was announced by the Prime Minister and she said that his death was a profound loss to New Zealand, and they had a, in, it was a couple months later, in April, a service of thanksgiving was held in his honor in the UK and the Queen attended. Got a couple of fun facts, I don't know how fun they are,

but just to, just to round off, few fun facts, okay? All right. Is that okay? I'm ready. I'm ready. I am ready. You invented the genre. These will be pretty fun. They're not even that fun, a couple are just quite nice.

He's Sun Peter Hillary, also became a climber. He summited. Do you summited? Summited Everest in 1990. But in May 2002, Peter climbed Everest as part of a 50th anniversary celebration and Tenzing Norge's son, because he had died in 1986, so his son was also part of the expedition. So there are two sons who did it for them on the 50th anniversary. That's sweet. We're just quite nice, I like that. Sweet facts.

Sweet facts, yeah, it's not fun, but it's bloody sweet. This is kind of cool. He's on Edmund Hillary's on the $5 note in New Zealand. That's great. That's pretty fun. Who doesn't want to be on currency? I know what a sign of respect. Yeah. Even if it is the 5. And just finally, the second highest mountain range on Pluto is named in honor of Edmont Hillary. It's called Hillary Montez. That's kind of cool. That is cool. He's got a mountain not a planet named after him.

Is the tallest mountain named after Tensignorga? The second highest is... We've possibly got there first. Is Pluto a micro planet or something? Is that one? It's a dwarf planet. Yeah, yeah. So that's sort of like that's the second highest mountain range. And the highest known mountain range on Pluto is named Norge Montez. Yeah he got something better than an end-to-end. Yes. So that's pretty exciting and they also got a airport named after them the Tenzing Hilary Airport in Nepal. Andensyn comes first. Yeah! So that is my reflection on the internet. I mean, I'm not able to let go of the fact you said,

A airport named after him. Did I? I can't help myself. Did I say that? Yeah. I'm so disappointed in myself. I'm sorry. Well, it's because you're joking.

I think you were saying you said, A, and then there was it. Anyway, I remember that. No, no, no, but I'm sorry to you. I'm sorry to our listeners Sorry, I'm sorry I Airport I demand a apology So there we go that is very cool I did enjoy that a lot and I hope that all of us can commit tensing norge's name to memory that a lot and I hope that all of us can commit tensing Norge's name to memory. Tensing Norge, tensing Norge, tensing Norge.

I'd say you commit things to memory. Good stuff. Thank you Jess. I did appreciate the report Matt. It was really good Jess. I was really interesting. It's funny that I knew nothing about it. I could hardly even remember his name. Let alone Tensing's name. Very good. I don't know about any of that at all. Well now you do. If you ask me when it happened, I would have said 70s. Okay.

Or 40s or 60s, but not whatever you say, I'm never guessing 50s. Sure. Well, maybe. Maybe. Now, you know, and so do you all out there. Thanks for listening, guys. If you want to get you all out there. Thanks for listening guys If you want to get in contact or suggest a topic for us or indeed for me to talk about on mine report next week

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