Do Go On - 212 - Lindy Chamberlain: "A dingo's got my baby!"

Episode Date: November 13, 2019

"A dingo's got my baby!" It was a famous punchline for a long time, and people all over the world knew it. But so you know the real story of what happened to Azaria Chamberlain? For a long time, no one knew what the truth was, and her mother Lindy faced harsh consequences for a crime she didn't commit.Buy tickets to our live shows (incuding upcoming Ireland/UK tour) here: https://dogoonpod.com/events/See Matt live in LONDON on December 7: https://mattstewartcomedy.com/gigsOur website: dogoonpod.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.famous-trials.com/dingo/457-homehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Azaria_Chamberlainhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_Chamberlain-Creightonhttps://www.famous-trials.com/dingo/456-chronologyhttps://lindychamberlain.com/the-story/https://www.whimn.com.au/talk/people/chilling-new-detail-in-azaria-chamberlains-case/news-story/3dd15737087a2dab73442f7149b28851 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Doogogues. Go on. My name is Dave Ornicki, and I'm sitting here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Hello, I'll be playing the character of Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins tonight. Well, okay. First of all, I'd like to say hello to Jess. Hello. Second of all, I'd like to say hello to Matt. Hello. And how's Dave Warnocky doing?

I'm not too bad. I'm a little Dave Warnockley. Wow, the man of two voices there. I'll cut you off there, pilgrim. I'll be playing the role of stagehands. Get that away from me. The stage hand. Thank you. My favorite part about that is seconds before we hit record, Matt said,

all right, let's just cut through the bullshit tonight. Yeah, can you edit all of that out? I felt awful about that. That doesn't get us out of here any quicker tonight in the room. You know, when I say Ancene, that's an ironic thing on a hack premise. I'm making, you know, I'm taking that. And let's get on with the show. I like watching Matt have a breakdown.

Me too. Just let him go. It's fun. Dave's breakdowns less fun. Oh, much less fun. But also much less frequent. Hey, if you like... If you like hearing me have a breakdowns, I've started a third weekly podcast. Moron.

Is that why you're having a breakdown now? I think so. I've just realised how much work it is. But this new one's been so much fun. It's called Listen Now with Matt and Sam. And it's a music podcast where we go through the back catalogs of the world's most important. Rockerness bands, starting with Australia's pub rock rock rock. icons cold chisel.

And like a lot of listeners probably don't know them. They're big in Australia, but didn't really break huge overseas. But we explain all that in the show. So you can listen without know on them. And I would say you really should. And when should we listen? It comes out like early in the week, Mondays, I think. I was setting up for listen now, the title of the podcast.

Oh, yeah, they should listen now because there's already. You tried. I mean, come on. I know. I did your best. I genuinely had trouble. That was an alley-oop, but he caught it. looked at it and took a bite.

And then threw the deflating ball into the crowd? No, I didn't. I kicked it. But it's, yeah, listen now, because there are, I think there'll be four episodes out. We've gone through the first, I think this week, although we've just done the classic album, East, which was their big, huge breakthrough album in Australia. It was a real hit record, I think seven times platinum. Jesus.

That's successful. Yeah. That success. Good on them. Yeah. Oh, so good. I reckon. going to go see them in January.

That's exciting. Can't wait. That's very excited. And it's hosted with my cousin Sam. And she's never done a podcast before, but we're having a real bloody good time. That's great. That's all that matters. I was going to say the real winner is friendship, but your family.

Yeah. The real winner's family. Friendship is thicker than water. You know what I mean? I could not agree more. I'm thinking about flour. Oh, sorry. Dave, what's this show?

Well, what this show is, a show that we take on the road, and I just want to quickly say, because we're about to go to the UK for the second time in a couple of weeks. But we've just released. It's taken a whole year to edit together our tour diary from last year's UK shows. And when we say we edit it together,

Steph Munro Smith did a fantastic job. She's done an awesome job. I've been told I have not been able to bring myself to watch it. No, I've watched it because I think it's so well put together that I've watched it again recently. Was busted watching myself at work? Of course when someone came up, on my iPhone, it was me front and centre.

Of course. It could have been one of you two, but no it was me. So it's in two parts. It's on YouTube now and people have been loving, looking at our faces out there in the world. To be honest, Dave,

odds are, if they came in at any point, it would have been you in front and center, jumping up in front of Jess, hogging the stage time, the screen time. Yeah. How else do you get ahead in this doggy dog business?

Yeah. It's definitely getting ahead in the middle of a YouTube video. Yep, that's how you do it. That's how all the great started. Pretty secured six auditions. Wow. That's more than I've had in the last two years.

Now, the way this show works is one of the three of us choose a topic, often helped by the listeners, and then we research it, bring it back to the other two, tell them all about it. They don't know what it is, and they sort of annoy us a bit by chipping in with dumb questions like idiots. And hopefully it's all a good fun time. This week, Jess Perkins, comedian and radiographer, is doing the topic. Yep. And she's about to get us on the topic with a question. And the question is, Jess. The question is, who is famous for the quote,

A Dingo ate my baby? Oh, I know that it was on the Simpsons. It was on The Simpsons. Dave, do you remember a name? I'm blanking. Oh, genuinely? I thought the question was too easy. Are you both blanking?

Oh, man. A dingo ate, for some reason, I'm imagining Pauline Hanson, which is so incorrect. Oh, my God. I thought. Merrill Street played her. Yes, Linda Chamberlain. Yes, that's correct. Merrill Street played her.

which is wild to me. Have you saying it? She nailed the Aussie accent. She would. She would, right? If anyone can do it, it's Merrill. It was young Merrill. And obviously that's why I watched.

Was it 80s Merrill? I was like, I want to hear. Yeah, 88. I want to hear how good and jobs you did the accent. It's not bad. It's not great. Really? Didn't quite nail it.

But I don't, you know, good honest. Well, the Australian accent's very varied. I don't think you can just say someone hasn't nailed it just because they speak a little differently from you, Jess. Well, no, but when their words are quite American, They haven't quite nailed it, have they. I do have a fun fact about that later that you might know, but I didn't know and it blew my mind.

So I'll tell you about that later. Cool. But yes, so this has been suggested surprisingly only by a couple of people. Grace Brooks and David Brown suggested this, and I put it to the Patrions. The Patrions voted and then it was tied. And so then I sent them another message. I was like, hey, guys, it's tied.

If you haven't voted, vote. And then it was tied for an incredibly long time. A lot of people wanted this, a lot of people wanted something else. It's exciting. That's exciting. It's exciting time. And do you think that was Brian Brown's son who suggested it? I could only assume, yes.

How many Browns do you know? There's a weatherman David Brown, and then there's famous Australian icon, Brian Brown. Yes, who we assume are related. Who's Brian Brown? They're the only two shades of brown. Brian Brown. He was in cocktail.

He's like, he's the token Australian in movies. Oh, Hugh Jackman. No, you're thinking of Hugh Jackman. Am I thinking of the right person? Brian Brown. Yeah, Brian Brown. He was in Cocktail with Tom Cruise. He was in an episode of the, a few episodes of The Good Wife.

There's a little love interest. Is he Australian in it? Because I don't think he can do accents. Yeah, he's an Australian. Oh, Brian Brown, yes. He's in everything American where they need an Australian. Tony Martin and Mick Malloy had a CD called the Brown album. And on the back it had like a painting colour chart with all different shades of

Brown and one of them was Brian Brown. That is fun. The last one was blue. A couple of very funny bits. They make a piece of paper funny. How do they do it? How do they do it? Is Brian Brown in the Lindy Chamberlain movie?

Probably. I mean, Bud Tingwell's in there. Is he? Bud. I only, I haven't, I didn't watch the whole thing because I couldn't find, I'm sure I could have illegally watched it online, but I didn't. I was just looking at YouTube clips. and Bud Tingwell plays a judge.

And I was like, of course. So for American or English listeners, or, you know, Icelandic or whatever listeners, I put the rest of the world into the whatever category. There was, I think, about a 50-year period where legally you weren't allowed to call it an Australian film if Bud Tingwell, Brian Brown or Jack Thompson wasn't. Yeah.

And if you had all three, you were going to win awards. Yeah, you win. But you have to have at least one for it to be legally referred to. was an Australian film, that's right, yeah. Otherwise, it's a whatever film. Yeah, I don't, like, what is this? I don't understand. It's actually called a TV show.

Yeah, but to be an Australian film, it had to have Bud Tingwell and Meryl Streep in it. This one also has Sam Neal. Anyway, I'll talk a little bit about that film later. Another great Australasian. Yes. Claim him. Claim him.

But that's not all we're talking about. We're talking about Lindy Chamberlain. Yes, yes, so this topic, obviously very famous in the... Incredibly famous. history, but also at the same time, I don't know too much about it. Yeah, you kind of know bits and pieces. It's a name that we know having grown up, because this happened way before our time, Dave, and just before Matt, barely.

Just before the 1800s. Just before Matt's 50th. Yeah. So just before, sorry, just before Matt's memory started to go. Yeah. So, yeah, it's definitely, Lindy Chamberlain is a name that all Australians know, but you might not know much of the details of the case. There was a Simpsons joke, wasn't it?

Yeah, there was. Dingo eating my baby? Probably in the Australian app. Yes, but it's something like Bart's talking to the Prime Minister or something and he says on the phone like, is that a dingo eating your baby? Right. And there's also an Elaine on Seinfeld. A dingo ate my baby.

It's like, okay, and I imagine by the end of this episode we'll be like, wow, that was really inappropriate. Yeah, it's pretty insensitive. But away we go. So on the 16th of August in 1980, Michael. and Lindy Chamberlain and their three children, Aidan, who was six, Regan, who was four, and Azaria, who was two months old,

arrived at Uluru for a family holiday. And Uluru, for any international listeners, you've definitely seen pictures of it, but it's a big sandstone rock in the middle of the country in Central Australia. In the past, it's also been referred to as Ayers Rock. It's been in the news a lot recently because they've just closed the climb of it.

You're not allowed to climb it, anymore, hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands of tourists flocked to it to be the last to climb it, even though the indigenous people had very nicely asked people not to for a very long time. And now it's closed and you're not allowed to. Anyway, I also, I did read, there was a news article. This guy was called Jason from Las Vegas, J-A-Y-S-O-N. Cannot wait to hear his opinion.

He wanted to be the last to climate. even though he'd already done it once before in the 90s and even in the 90s was aware of the Indigenous people saying please don't but he was like nah but it's a good view up there and he also throughout the entire in the throughout the entire article kept referring to it as airs rock

like even though he's very much aware it's not really we don't call it that so he seemed cool seems cool do you have his number Jason Jason. Jay, son, son of Jay. Son of Jay.

So, yeah, Uluru, a very popular tourist attraction, and that's where the Chamberlain family are chosen to spend their holiday. So they left their home three days earlier, traveling from Mount Isa in northern Queensland and driving down to Central Australia to Uluru. And they arrived late on the 16th of August, set up camp.

The next day, Michael took the boys to climb a portion of the rock while Lindy stayed back at the camp with the baby. She's only a couple months old. That night, the evening of the 17th, of August, the Chamberlain family gathered around the communal barbecues near their campsite and chatted with another family who were also camping nearby. The other family were Greg and Sally Lowe, a young couple also camping with their infant child.

So they're just like hanging around at the communal barbecues, having a chat. Making friends. Having some dinner, keeping it low key, you know, real chill. Around 8pm as Sally Lowe was cleaning up after dinner and she walked to a rubbish bin, she turned and saw a dingo following her, about four or five paces behind her. Shortly after, Michael Chamberlain was entertaining Aidan by tossing scraps of food to another dingo that was hanging around at the campsite. And at another point, Aidan was chasing a mouse around the campsite and a dingo pounced on the mouse. Right, so they are everywhere.

Yeah, so just to state the obvious, there are dingoes around. Quite a lot of them. Have you explained what a dingo is? It's like a dog. It's a wild dog. It's Australia's native dog. We've got one of each. One Australian native everything.

Are they? Macadamia, Australia's native nut. Platypus? Australia's native monotrim. Monotreem. Shared that title with the Echidna. Yep. I feel like maybe I learnt this at Heelsville Sanctuary, but I could be remembering wrong.

They're either like solo animals or packs. I don't remember. Yeah, I think that's true. Is this ting goes? Yeah. I have a feeling because you would think because they're dogs, they'd be packs. So I think the reason it stayed in my head was because they're actually like lone wolves but dogs. Do you know what I mean?

Lone dogs. I think it's definitely true that they're either solo or pack animals. Yeah, they either move in groups or alone. Right. There's no couples. No. Okay. Orgies or lonies.

Which is what I call solo wanesies. Solo wanking. This time for a bit of lonesy. Next to the campfire. A bit of lonesies. I've just Googled it. National Geographic says, these golden or reddish-colored canids may live alone,

especially young males, or in packs of up to 10 animals. Just remember that perfectly, then. See, I nailed that. And I haven't been to Hillsville Sanctuary for years. Wow. I should go back. Great spot. Great spot.

Anyway, Reagan, the four-year-old, was already sleeping in. her tent and Lindy took baby Azaria to the tent to make a little bed for her and put her down to sleep. And after getting Azaria to sleep, Lindy returned to the barbecue area with her husband and son and the other couple. So they're all just hanging out. And a little while later, they heard the baby cry and Lindy got up to go and check on her. And then those famous words, my God, the dingo's got my baby.

And thus began the most famous and publicized trial in Australian history that would last for decades. My God. It's... One more time, what's the famous quote? What does he exactly say? My God. I think it was twice. My God, my God.

The dingo's got my baby. Wow. So the alarm was raised and police were called. Frank Morris was the first investigator to arrive and he shone a light across the floor of the Chamberlain's tent where he noticed blood on one of the rugs. And there were poor prints which led away from the tent entrance. Tent entrance is hard to say.

entrance to the tent entrance But the tracks faded as they hit the road Where the poor prints sort of mixed in with shoe prints From humans walking all along So they kind of lost the track They enlisted the help as well of Aboriginal trackers Who followed the dingo prints and saw drag marks in the sand In two places

There were sort of shallow depressions in the sand Sort of looked like where something had been put down for a bit They reckoned apparently while the dingo just had a rest. But that's, who knows. And in a couple of those sort of little marks, in those depressions, it contained the imprint of a knitted garment. So they're thinking, I mean, that seems to be pretty logical.

Close to 300 people went out into the scrub with torches to see if they could find baby Azaria. And they formed a human chain and searched through the bush, but no sign of the baby or the dingo. And fairly quickly, the police. started to have doubts about the dingo story. There were at least three men initially assigned to the case. So there was Inspector Michael Gilroy and he believed the Chamberlains.

He accepted their story. Frank Morris, the guy who was first on the scene, he didn't really make any calls just yet. There was a guy called John Lincoln. And according to John Bryson's account in Evil Angels, which is a book written about it, John Lincoln didn't believe the dingo story. And he said, not a chance. never happened before.

There's a fact you can't beat. Never ever happened. It's like, what? I mean, what about the phrase it's the first time for everything? Yeah, I don't think you can, I mean, I don't think that they weren't like,

a unicorn took it, you know? They're suggesting that they fake the blooded dog footprints somehow? Yep. I've never heard it said like that before. That sounds pretty...

Yeah, that's open and shut to me. Yeah, oh, wow. The dingo took the baby, right? Yeah. But it's a very, it's a weird case. So Gilroy, like, so this guy John is like, it's never happened before so it can't be real. But then Gilroy, what was his first name? Michael.

Michael Gilroy noted that even though none before had been fatal, there had been a series of recent dingo attacks in the park on children, like little bites and stuff, little bites. Nothing fatal, but dingoes had kind of attacked people. So he's like, well, I don't think that's entirely fair. In fact, for the two years before Azaria went missing, Uluru Chief Ranger Derek Roth had been riding to the government urging a dingo cull and warning of imminent human tragedy. He had noted that dingoes in the area were becoming increasingly cheeky,

approaching and sometimes biting people. For two years he's been running to the government, saying that the dingoes are biting people, and then somebody claims that a dingo has taken a child, and they're like, nah, how? Not possible. It gets, It gets pretty ridiculous.

So John Lincoln then scoffed the possibility that the dog could lug a 10-pound baby over hundreds of yards. And apparently, to prove his point, he filled a bucket with 10 pounds of sand and tried to carry it in his mouth. But he could only do that for like less than a minute. Is he doing it on all fours? Okay.

I've got doubts now. Yeah, because human mouth... This officer was a dingo as well, wasn't he? No, but human mouth, incredible. It's the same. him as a dog mouth, isn't it? Oh, okay. I mean, we pick everything up with our mouths too, don't we?

Excuse me, Officer Dingo, Officer Dingo. Imagine. Hello? It's like Officer Woof. Ah, Officer Woof. Officer Woof. That's who they should have got on this case. Yes, get Officer Woof.

We should have put the 10 pounds in that dog's mouth. Yeah. Oh, Officer Woof in the little basket. If this dingo couldn't carry 10 pounds in his mouth, I'm like three times the size of a dingo, so I should be able to carry 30 pounds in my mouth. Yeah. All right, here I go. I can't do it.

You can't. What a weird way to prove your fucked point. So he was an employed policeman. Yeah, he was one of the investigators, yeah. So that feels good, doesn't it? People are crying about their baby being probably killed by Dingo, and he's like, Nana, watch me carry the sand with my mouth. Yeah, trust me.

I'll just prove you. So a week after Azaria's disappearance, a tourist named Wally Goodwin, was visiting Uluru and set out for a gully at the base of the... the rock, hoping to take some photos of wildflowers. Seems like a very pleasant day for Wally. And he spotted shredded clothes resting near a boulder. And upon closer inspection, they proved to be a torn nappy and a jumpsuit. So he reported his discovery to Constable Morris, who arrived to collect the evidence.

And the jumpsuit was blood-stained around the neck, indicating the probable death of the missing child. Right. And then John Lincoln was like, look, I'll try and rip a nappy with my mouth. Yeah. And let's see how I go. Let's see how that goes. But the bucket, you guys. The bucket.

He also couldn't even tear up in a nappy. Yeah. And, uh. So I don't know what, what it was, but it wasn't a dingo and it wasn't a human. Something in between. It was a dog man. So on August 28, but, that's my birthday. But far too, but like 10 years before you.

Detective Sergeant Graham Charwood took over the Chamberlain investigation. Does that mean that McCauley Culkin was born that week? Yep. McCauley Colkin is two days old at this point. But with the time different. He's probably like a day old. Less than 24 hours, I reckon. Well, I mean, I can't prove that he wasn't.

Okay. No spoilers, no spoilers. Can we carry a copy of Home Alone on DVD in my mouth and see how far I can get. In DVD, yes. VHS. Yeah. VHS too heavy. Not in 80, come on, mate.

Too heavy. DVDs. This is modern man over here. Trying to carry a VHS of a movie that won't be filmed for a better. When did VHS come out? Oh no, beta. Do you have any idea when VHS came out? It feels like VHS lasted a really long time.

Then we got DVDs, so that phased out VHS. But DVDs didn't last that long because then we just... Hmm. I feel like they probably... It feels like they lasted. It's a similar amount of time. I have no idea. I reckon it's slightly less for DVDs.

I mean, you can still get DVDs. I mean, why? Do you know what I mean? Imagine having a need for a DVD. Oh, everything I need. It's just on the internet. And if it's not on any of the streaming services that I have, then it's not worth watching.

It doesn't exist. That's my... It's been deleted from history. It's my thinking. So, okay, Detective Sergeant Graham Charwood is on the case. And he read Inspector Gilroy's initial police report and found some things to be rather suspicious. Oh, okay.

I've read the report too. It includes tidbits of information that don't seem particularly relevant to the case. It talks about when Azaria was born and Lindy's apparently weird behavior at the hospital. So this is from the report. It says, when bringing the baby in for a checkup, She astounded the sisters by having the baby dressed completely in black. A doctor who treated the baby said that she did not react like a normal mother. Whatever that means.

Okay. The same doctor said that he looked up the name Azaria in a dictionary of names and meanings and found that it means sacrifice in the wilderness. Oh my God. Actually, the name means whom God aids. But in the police report, he noted down that a doctor looked up the name. and it meant sacrifice in the wilderness. Azaria does.

Yep. Oh, that sounds bonkers. But it doesn't mean that. The doctor, like... I know. And that they put it in the police report, that she wasn't... That when she went in for a checkup

after the baby was born, she did not react like a normal mother. What does that mean? It's completely irrelevant. It feels like over time you'd probably notice it people. react to things differently. But she did dress the baby in black, so that's suspicious.

Big Metallica fan. Metallica hadn't released an album yet. She was ahead of the curve. Yes, they love Black Sabbath. Yes. Within five years, he'd be kicking himself. Black was Azaria's color. Yeah.

She looked cool in it. Yeah. Whatever. Black is forever. It was a Melbourne baby. Yeah, she's trendy. Hepburn. Hello.

Breakfast at Tiffany's. Also, a thinning color. Yeah. She's a little chubby. Yeah, some baby's a chubby. That's okay. I was a real chubby baby. Me too.

Fuck, I was kidding. Real chubby. My head was massive. My dad called me a watermelon with legs. Well, I was the, that's very funny to imagine. I was the opposite. I came out quite thin. Then gorge myself on food.

Yes. I ate so much that I had really bad diarrhea. Oh. There was a photo of me in the hospital a few days old with my bottom out underneath a sun lamp because of how much? What the hell? A few days old. How did you eat so much in a few days? I gorged myself, Jess.

I was like a Roman. What were you eating? Pizza? What did you have? You're fucking Ninja Turtle. The pizza's in those Bayamorees. Yeah, no good. Don't do it. Pizza, three hot dogs, two potato cakes, a couple of sausage rolls.

Yeah, that will give you the shits. Of course, that will give you the shits. Yeah, I paid for one potato cake, but they gave me two, of course. And you never learnt how to eat properly beyond that. No. I still don't know how to cook. I don't know how to shit either. I have a sun lamp every night.

How does the sun lamp come into it? It only has healing properties. But, but healing? Yes. It heals your butt. Yeah. Huh. Can it tone your butt?

I will not be posting that photo online, but... Good call. Can it lift your butt? Yeah. Maybe that's what I want. They thought I had a trooping. He's got a little flat butt. Yeah.

Give this baby a booty, stat! I need 10 cc's hot. Forget squats. Get it under the lamp. Yeah. Fuck, I've been doing squats all year. I feel like an idiot. So, yeah, they're making a few sort of judgments on Lindy.

It's also worth noting at this time that Michael Chamberlain served as Minister of Mount Iser's Seventh-day Adventist Church. So the media were pretty quick to make judgments about the family. Oh. Even back then they were an anti-religious guy. Well, maybe it was that he's not Catholic. Yeah, I don't really get what your religion is. You're not Anglican, you're not Catholic. So what are you?

Right. Because those are the two options. Yeah. Very strange. So that's an American church. I think so. I don't really know heaps about it, to be honest. So for them there's two options.

Normal and not normal. Yeah. And you're... But even like, even normal if you're a Catholic, if someone's an Anglican, that's not normal. So this is not... This is really weird. It's still Christian.

Yeah, I know. It's... That's one of the wildest things to me is that there's been wars fought between people who slightly, believe in Christ slightly differently. Yeah. I'm not, I don't know heaps about religion in general, so I don't know a lot about 17th day adventures. All I know is that's what Jesus would have wanted.

You know, he was all about. Not my Jesus. He was a pedant, wasn't he? You're saying it, that's not exactly right. So I hate you. That was what Jesus was about. That's a vibe I got, yeah. Yeah. Finally, we agree on something. Very strange.

So the police report also says this. To date, we, we, we, we, We do, we... Wow, really, quite a stumbling report. I mean, we knew it was sloppy police work, but that's terrible. I mean, to get an editor. Was that a lot of ellipsies or whatever they called? And I guess that, I just let me get to my words here.

What were you doing on the plane the other day? Ladies and gentlemen. Oh, my favourite impression of a captain on an airplane. And we are cruising at about... 18,000 feet and we will prepare the come for later. Ah, good fun.

Anyway, the police report also said this. To date, we have actually not one witness. She's finally gotten a gear here. We have actually not one witness who can say they saw the baby at Ayers Rock, but people who have assumed she was holding

a baby when they've seen her holding a white bundle to her breast. Are they saying the baby never existed? Yeah. They're saying the baby was a hope. They're saying, well, I mean, there's no witnesses that have seen the baby. Yeah, there were. But they're like, no witnesses that have seen.

I've never seen the baby. Who's paying attention to the baby? She's in a bundle. Oh, yeah, that bundle's crying there. Yeah, I bet. Probably got a walkman in it with some sort of a prehistoric speaker system. Do they have them back then? I doubt it.

Some sort of radio transmitter. It's like, who's paying attention to the baby? Everyone. Everyone likes to look at babies. Oh, yeah, yeah, everyone. If it's a normal thing for people to be able to do, then me too. She was acting suspiciously to people like, can I see you, baby? No!

Absolutely not. She's shy! You can look at her from a distance, but please. Where? Where? Oh, she's crying now. Confirm that you saw her. You're upset. Get a photo on my bundle. Not you guys.

Ezra up. All right behind me. Thank you. Bye-bye. Anyway, that was a little suspicious. That's wild that they, okay, so I. The police are like, well, I mean, prove that there was a baby.

I've never heard that before. First, they think they've named her sacrifice in the wilderness. Yeah. Now they think she didn't exist anyway. What you did, you named your baby who doesn't exist. Sacrifice in the wilderness. That's a fact. That's all a fact.

So where do we move from here? She didn't exist. But also earlier in the same police report, they were talking about the doctors who treated this baby only months ago. They spoke to doctors who confirmed They treated the trial They were in on it They were so distracted by looking out the name

That they forgot to look if the baby was there They're just like well that's a blanket So I guess it's a baby in there And I'm a doctor You got a blanket You got a baby It's very strange I found this really great resource

Famestrials.com And it went through everything This is a little paragraph from it now In places around Australia Ranging from Laboratories to Wildlife Parks Investigators I say Laboratories

What do you say, Dave? Laboratories. Okay, there you go. Investigators conducted experiments to test the veracity of Lindy's account of Azaria's disappearance. Blood, vegetation and hair samples found on Azaria's clothing were examined. Dead dingoes shot at the Ayers Rock region following the disappearance were dissected by vets looking for either human bone or human protein. So weird. They also got them the dead dingoes.

to try to carry buckets of sand. Yeah. I couldn't do it. They couldn't lift it. Couldn't lift their head. Oh, you reckon I could pick up a baby. Case close. I can't pick up.

I mean, this dead dingo can't pick up shit. Then you must have quit. Tears in the fibers of Azaria's clothing was studied as well. Did the tears appear to be caused by dingo's teeth or by some human instruments? Did they know what was causing? Like a banjo? Yeah. At McClellan Park Wildlife Reserve in Adelaide,

dingoes were tossed meat wrapped in babies' nappies so that the nappy could be studied and compared to Azarias. From these various efforts, investigators began to build a case for murder. It sounds like they lost their mind. They lost their fucking minds. Is there a moment when you're throwing, had nappy filled with meat to a dingo? He started to question, what am I doing? What am I in this business for?

What if I hoping to find here? Justice, the truth, Jess. I don't want dingoes to be blamed. Meat filled nappy. Case for murder against a baby that doesn't exist. Yeah, it's double jeopardy. Get your fucking story straight. They're just throwing so many different things out there.

It's, um, they, that no one ever saw the baby, but someone did see a nappy filled with meat being thrown out of the barbecue that night. All of a sudden, that cop's back with a nappy. full of meat in his jaws. Can't even carry it. Can't even make it all the way of the baby queue. I've been crawling for the baby queue. Oh no. I did not.

No good. Sorry. Oh, that was an offensive pun. It was not. It was not. It was an offensive mispeak. I plead the fifth and not guilty. I'm going to America to plead the fifth.

There was also rumours that the Chamberlains were somehow linked to the Jones Town mass suicide two years earlier. Oh my God. What? How? Is that because, was they vaguely related churches or something? Well, I tried to look into it. I'm not really sure, maybe, but also I think it was just like something kind of weird that had happened. And they were now saying, this couple is weird.

So we're going to just lump the two together. I heard they started World War II. Really? Dave, I'm pleading Beethoven's the fifth. That's the third. That's the disclaim. version from Saturday Night Live. Saturday Night Fever.

And live from Saturday Night Fever, John Travolta over there. Banan-na-na-da-lan-lan-lan-lan-lan-a-da-lan-lan-a-da-lan-a-da-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a. A little quiet time for me. Okay. Okay. Matt is having a quiet time. So, yeah, they thought some people linked to Jonestown or others said that she might have been killed to atone for sins of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

I mean, who's saying this? Just people. People are saying this. And they're writing these rumors down into their official police reports. The media is completely fucked this whole time, by the way. It's a total trial by media, which is such a weird, cliched phrase to throw around, but it very much is. So an inquest was, was, what an inquest set up? Yeah.

Arranged. Held. Thank you. Fuck. Hold them close. Oh, that's another thing. People were also suspicious. but no one's seen the inquest.

People were also suspicious that Michael and Lindy's demeanour didn't match what they would expect from a couple that had tragically lost a child. Oh, God. I think we've now figured out that people deal with grief differently. Yeah. But it's funny that not that long ago, people are like, well, there's one way to grieve

and you're doing it wrong. Yeah. That's not what I think I'd do, even though I've never been in that horrific situation, and I pray I never will. But if I was... I wouldn't look like that. It's really strange.

You're not crying enough. Yeah. No, too much. Yeah, too much. You're crying too much. You're faking it. Suspicious amount of crying. It's fucked.

So the first inquest into Azaria's disappearance took place in December of 1980, four months after the incident. TV cameras filmed a lot of the proceedings. It was the first live telecast of Australian court proceedings. Oh, because we don't really do that. No, of course we don't. Why would you? It's big in America, isn't it? They do broadcast the big cases, do they?

But do they broadcast the whole thing? I'm thinking of Judge Judy, I know. Yes. There is trial by Kyle now, so we've got that. They might broadcast things like the sentencing and stuff like that. Jess wasn't joking. There's a real show in Australia called Trial by Kyle, and it's hosted by a radio shock jock.

Yep, and that was definitely stolen from my radio segment. Oh, dog, dog axe. Yeah, it's the same thing. There was also Husey, we have a problem, and that was exactly the same as text therapist. Which we happened to come up with. Which one, Dog axe? Dog axe, yeah.

Yeah, dogax, you help me come up with. We came up with Husey, we've got a problem. Oh, no. We said, what we got to get is. I didn't even think about that, Jess. Can we sue? Can we go on trial by Kyle and be like, actually, this show is infringing on our personal copyright?

I don't want to ever talk to Carl Sandelands. Okay. And I think we'd have to to be on his show. But that could be real good for us. Oh. We could be on trial by Kyle. I don't want to be on trial by Kyle. It could be our big break.

Oh, yuck. I reckon they'd actually put us on if we were. talking about the show. That'd be quite funny. Anyway, trial by Carl, it exists. Anyway, sadly it does. Okay, so Ashley McNay for the Northern Territory laid out the case for human intervention in Azaria's death.

He argued that the evidence suggested that the clothes were put in place, not dragged by a dingo. Moreover, he added, the damage to the clothes is inconsistent with being caused by a dingo. He questioned Lindy, Chamberlain, but generally failed to show her as a mother with either the will or motive to kill her own child. So he was kind of like questioning her but not getting anything. And what's his profession? Sorry? He was just working for the Northern Territory. He was a dramaturg. He did a lot of research into the historical period of the play. I'm an expert on Bertolt Brecht. I failed to see how that's relevant. Guilty! It feels a lot like that in this trial. He had a powerful voice, I agree with him.

All right, I'm with this guy. A beautiful speaking voice. Played by Brian Brown. How are you going, guys? The role of Ashley McNay will be played by Brian Brown. You know when they announced the understudy? Yeah. And everyone's going to collectively hold in their sadness.

Tonight the role of Harry Potter will not be played by Daniel Radcliffe. It'll be played by some guy called Chris. Boom. Then it turns out Chris is amazing Chris is great And then Daniel Radcliffe has to come back Because it's just having a day off And he comes back and everyone's like

Bring back Chris Where's Chris? We love Chris Chris's best I didn't know you're such a theatre head Dave referencing a movie Look I had to go with the masses

I think he did well I just referenced Bertold Brecht mate I mean come on Yeah he's lost the masses What a fantastic name Bethold Brecht Anyway Get Brecht

Oh you got Brecht Got broke. Alice Springs Magistrate and Coroner Dennis Barrett ruled that Azaria met her death when attacked by a wild jingo whilst asleep in her family's tent and that neither of her parents were in any degree whatsoever responsible for her death. So that's basically the result of the inquest. The initial inquest is saying, hey, they're not lying. They're not lying. It's not their fault. Good.

Okay. We apologize for putting them through this probably. Imagine that. Yep. And that absolutely should have been the end of the case. And it was not. So the Northern Territory Police and prosecutors were dissatisfied with this finding, and investigations continued leading to a second inquest in Darwin in September of 81,

so the following year. That's pretty irregular, isn't it, to not, to want a second inquest. And a third. Spoilers. That makes it sound like, oh, that's not the one we wanted. Go again. Exactly. That's two out of three.

Yeah, best three out of four. Not guilty. No, I reckon he did it. Go again. So based on ultraviolet photographs of Azaria's jumpsuit, a guy called James Cameron of the London Hospital Medical College, alleged that there was an incised wound around the neck of the jumpsuit, in other words, a cut throat and that no dingo had been involved in her disappearance. When she was told this, Lindy apparently said, I didn't know there were any dingo experts in London.

Burbba burn! Yeah. That guy got brecked. Yeah. He got brecht, man. He got hurtle brecht big time. There's some great stuff about James Cameron coming up. He said it was an incisor wound?

I think so, yeah. Inzized wound. Isn't that a thing a dog has, an incisor? I don't know what an insubes. I'm throwing his testimony out of my court. Don't worry. You wouldn't be the first, and you shan't be the last. The second inquest into the death of his area opened in Alice Springs on December

14, 1981, before coroner Jerry P. Galvin. It was alleged that Lindy Chamberlain took Azaria from the campsite on the evening of the 17th of August 1980 and murdered her in their yellow Tarana with a sharp instrument, probably scissors. So that's the type of car. Classic Aussie car. They claimed that she had hidden the baby's body in a large camera case, and then it was alleged that at a later time while other people were searching the campsite, she disposed of the body.

The best party is, and I think this is sort of in a later inquest. I didn't write it down though, but they sort of like, they came up with their own timeline of what she would have done. And it was like fucking wild and impossible. But they're like, yep, so that's it. Like, so she had to go to the car, kill the baby, somehow put blood in the tent and then go back. Oh, she had to get baked beans from the car because she comes back to the campsite and she fed Aiden some beans. We know that. People saw her do that.

So she had to do that. And then she cleaned that up. And then she went back to the tent and she pretended that she, like, it's just, it makes no. sense and it's impossible. Like the amount of details I had to make up. Totally. Like the camera bag, this just would not be true.

Yeah. And there'd be no traces of any of the DNA blood or anything in the camera. They found canine hair in the tent and the Chamberlains did not have a dog. It's like, I reckon that's, that's a pretty good clue. I didn't realize, I, because this is a famous case in Australia. Yeah. always assumed that there was for some reason, reason for doubt. But it doesn't, it just sounds like they lost it.

It was some sort of weird religious profiling thing. It was like 50-50. Some people were like, they're innocent. Some people thought they were guilty. There was sort of no, it was huge. It was this huge thing in Australia. Yeah, I feel a little bit guilty to admit that my mental association with the case is that the family are a bit dodgy somehow because there's been so many inquests.

But hearing it, they don't sound like it at all. And I hate that I had that. But of course you did, because that's what we were raised. I never looked into it. But now you're reading out this stuff, it's like, what? Yeah. One of the main things I remember knowing was that she did not react right. She did not grieve properly.

Yeah. And that was one of the big things. And that was like the court of public opinion. Well, that's it. She's not really grieving, right? That's not what. She's looking very stern. That's not how I'd be handling it.

bizarre. I think people sort of like looked at her, looked at the way she looked, looked at the, like, the church they were a part of and just went, you're a bit odd, I'm making a judgment on you. And by odd, I just mean like not the complete status quo. She wasn't like, there's nothing strange. And now they're alleging she some sort of criminal mastermind. Totally. She kind of just, from the footage I've seen, she's just sort of reacting with a stiff upper lip, you know, like what is off.

seen as being a virtuous way of dealing with things. Oh, it's a real tough time. Stoic. But she's being stoic and she's keeping the family together. And they're like, that's not right. But they've got no, she should be a mess. No motive as to why she possibly would. They do have a motive.

She named her. Yeah, that's sacrifice in the wild. Sacrifice of the wild. Yeah, so you're right, Matt. The stuff they had to make up to fill in this case to suit their outcome was very, strange. Many of the questions directed at the Chamberlons concerned the presence of blood in the family car. So it's a

biologist called Joy Cool who testified... Joy Cool? K-U-H-L. Cool, I guess. Holy shit. That is a sick name. It's a good name. Joy Cool. Wait, is it, actually, is it an awful name? I'm not sure. I can't tell. It's one of those ones that's on the border. It sounds like

I called it to the stand, Joy Cool, and the whole courtroom goes, what? What the hell is that? And she walks in with sunglasses on. Yeah, everywhere she goes. She bursts in the door. This happens everywhere I go. She was a biologist and she testified that she found fetal blood beneath the passenger seat of the Tarana.

Is that my saying that right? Fetal blood. Fetal, like a fetus. Yeah, baby blood. So, yeah, I will explain what that is. Did I put it there? I didn't. Huh.

Maybe I'd put it later. I'm just going to keep reading and hope I get to it. Good. James Cameron, he's back. He claimed in his testimony that the tear found on Azaria's jumpsuit could hardly have come from a dingo. It's more consistent with scissors, he said. By the way, James Cameron had also given crucial evidence in a case in England,

which was later overturned when his expert evidence was proven wrong. So it's good to be using him again. Unless it's when he got into making movies about blue people. A reporter from Sydney called Malcolm Brown made this comment about the case and the two inquest. Malcolm Brown. Mal Brown. He was one of the baddest man men in a VFL, AFL history. Just a real bad guy. Or not bad guy. Look, a fine guy, probably. But he just punched a lot of people in the football field. Right. He also said this about the two inquests. Big bad, Mel Brown. I bet he said something real bad. I want to punch the inquest. He said the first inquest was about dingoes. This one's about blood.

Because that's all that the prosecution had. Key evidence supporting this allegation was the jumpsuit, as well as a highly contentious forensic report claiming to have found evidence of fetal hemoglobin in stains in the front seat of the Chamberlain's car. However, evidence was presented that adult blood also passed the test used for fetal hemoglobin and that other organic compounds can produce similar results

on that particular test, including mucus from the nose, so snot or chocolate milkshakes. What? So there was some kind of stain. on the seat. That's all. That's all I have. Jeez, science had come a long way in 1980. It's either fetal blood or

boogers. Adult blood of boogers or Big M. It's a liquid though. We're confident it used to be liquid. Pretty confident. Or like a gel. We're thinking it's either a gel or a liquid or maybe some sort of a dust. It wasn't a gas though.

Almost definitely not a gas. We're 95% sure not a gas. There's some chances of gas. 75% sure it's not a gas. But definitely, we think it was a stain. We think there was something there. Oh, no, it was a shadow. Never mind.

You can't trust a family that stains their car. They're clearly murderers. Chamberlains, they're famously a strawberry milk kind of family. So it's definitely not chocky milk. We're putting that out. There's no chocky milk here. No one's drinking chucky milk in this car. We don't tell you about that.

That is wild. When you said highly contentious, I'm like, Like, oh, let's see how contentious this is. Is this high? Oh, no, it is. Quite contentious. That's high than I was expecting. I think just the first fact that, like, adult blood could be, could match as well.

Like, oh, anyway. So, Lindy Chamberlain, she's questioned a lot about the garments that Azaria was wearing. Do you like milk? Don't you like milk. What flavor milk? Look at me. Look at me. Look at me.

Don't look at them. Look at me. What drink? What milk you want? What a flavor? Say quick, don't think. Say quick, don't think. Banana.

Is it Nesquink? Chocolate. You like chocolate mouth. Admit it. Admit it. I don't know. Wait. Sorry, no.

You don't like chocolate milk. You don't like chocolate milk. You don't like chocolate milk. You. I don't have it. I arrest my case. Lydia, do you bleed? Do you bleed?

So they're quizzing her about the clothes that Azaria was wearing. And she claimed that Zaria was wearing a matinee jacket. It's basically the case. cardigan over the jumpsuit, but the jacket was never found. Oh, okay. How convenient, they said. Even, like, yeah. Isn't that, it's so dumb, but.

Any of those stuff where you're going, you don't have all these fine details down properly, even though that's not proven not to be the case, but even she remembered her wearing a jacket she didn't on this hectic night. Totally, not the end of the world. It's the most traumatic thing you've ever gone through. Yeah. But like, okay, so if a dingo took the baby, It's taken the clothes too

And a little cardigan's going to come off It could be anywhere out It's a very big place Oh so naive Jess So naive Cardigans never come off I tried to remove one with my mouth And I couldn't do it

And if I can't How could some dumb dingo do it While also carrying a bucket I put a cardigan on a dingo And try to rip it off with my teeth And I couldn't So I think that proves my point But also can I just say side note

That dingo looked real cute It did look cute. Going on a matinee performance. It's a cosy little dingo now, isn't he? Went to see Harry Potter at the theatre. Chris did a great job that night. Chris was fantastic. And do you know what else was real cute?

That dingo used those little opera goggles. It was very cute. What do they call binoculars? I love those little dingoes. I like to call them opera goggles. Also, by the way, I married this dingo now. Then I tried to ride it like a little horse. Couldn't support my weight.

Couldn't even support my weight. Tiny little jaw. I'm pathetic. I'll rest my car. was sitting on its mouth. Couldn't even carry my weight in its jaw. I don't know who this character is, but I love it. I think he's like John Lincoln.

I'm married to a dinkgo now. We like a simple life. In her defence, though, eye witness evidence was presented of dingoes having been seen in the area of that night. I mean, I already mentioned three just within that one barbecue area. All witnesses claim to believe the Chamberlain's story. One witness, a nurse, also reported having heard a baby's cry after the time when the prosecution alleged Azaria had been murdered. So I don't know why they mentioned that she's a nurse.

Maybe it makes her feel more credible. But they're like, look, a nurse heard a baby. So they're saying that if the baby was already dead, we wouldn't be hearing it. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. If Zaria has already been murdered. Has been murdered. Pre-murded, put in the camera case, whatever. She's not going to be screaming out.

Right. You're not going to hear it. And the nurse is like, no, I heard a baby. Pre-murded. If the baby's been pre-murded, this is something that Dave just said. You can get a supermarket, get a pre-murded chicken. You can't. You don't have to do it yourself.

Yeah, what a modern world we live in. No, it's very exciting. Could I get one pre-murded chicken? That's not what you used to have to say, but now they only do pre-merded ones. So you can just say chicken. You know that's supposed to say. It's much quicker. Yeah.

They don't generally hand you a live chicken and they go, oh, did you mean pre-murred? And you go, ah, yeah, I don't know. What am I, dingo? Now, if you want a live chicken, you have to say, can I have a non-murdered chicken? Yeah. Then they know what you mean. Also, you can't get that to shops. You've got to a farm.

One non-murred chicken. Okay. All right, that's weird. This one died of natural causes. There's an engineer. I'm going to have to be more specific. One live chicken. It's like, there's such an easy word for it.

One not dead chicken. an engineer called Les Harris, who had conducted dingo research for over a decade. Okay. So what do we think about Les? I reckon he had lots of friends. I think he's going to be a quirky character. He said, contrary to James Cameron's findings,

a dingo's teeth can shred through material as tough as motor vehicle seatbelts. Wow. I could just said car seatbelts. He also cited an example of a captive female dingo removing a bundle of meat from its wrapping paper and leaving the paper intact because you know how they were like the nappies not all shredded off too much

So they're quite neat eaters Yeah and this is someone who has studied dingoes for a decade Evidence was also presented to the effect that a dingo was strong enough to carry a kangaroo And a report of the removal of a three-year-old girl By a dingo from the backseat of a tourist car at the same camping area just a few weeks before was also witnessed by those parents.

A three-year-old. Three-year-old's a little bit bigger than a nine-week-old. Is that true? Just saying. Okay. I have to trust you in that. So hang on. Hang on.

Let me just summarise for you. Okay. So we've got an eyewitness account of a dingo picking up a child much bigger. In the same place. In the exact same place, only a few weeks earlier. We've got somebody who has studied dingoes for a decade saying that they can actually rip through things like really tough materials so clothing and nappies and stuff like that would be very easy

but James Cameron from London gave evidence that based on studying plaster casts of dingo jaws it was impossible for a dingo to open its jaws wide enough to encompass a child's head that is based on looking at a plaster cast of a dingo you went to a bit of what a plaster of Paris or it was called you got a glitter on it He painted it, got it put in the kiln.

He got it all green and sparkly. Yeah, obviously. And then, yeah, he put his head in, which is basically a baby's head. Yeah. He's got a baby's intelligent. So he put the past cast drawing, it couldn't get around his head. Isn't that fucked? That he's like, nah, but.

Why are they going to this London guy? I have no idea. He's been discredited once before. Because it sounds like he's the kind of the guy goes, what do you want me to say? Because I'll say it. Yeah. Why does the Australia, why does the Northern Territory police want that answer? Because one guy has like the feeling.

I reckon they're lying. Yeah, they just don't believe her. So they're shopping around. They don't like her, so they don't believe her. Maybe it's that. And she's a little bit, slightly strange religion. These cups sound like real cowboys. And it does sound, because it sort of almost sounds fair because you've got, on the one hand,

you've got a dingo expert. So you've always got to have balance. Yes. So they've got a guy who clearly knows nothing in that dingo. He's never seen a dingo in his life. Well, he's seen a plastic cast. True. Sparkly.

And he tried to open it. And he's like, that won't open. and far enough. Because it had hinges that were too tight. Okay. Yeah, once I put it in the kiln, it wouldn't move at all. So, unbelievable. I mean, it's amazing that dingoes can even eat anything.

A dingo would have to snap its face in half to eat, and I've never seen one do that. They can actually only eat butter beans, so it's pretty tough for dingoes. Follow them whole. And they're not Australian native beans, so they've actually all died out from their extinct. They can't eat. I neither did that baby ever. No. And also we live in a simulation.

The earth is flat. Yeah. So the defence's case was rejected by the jury. Do you believe that, Dave? Everything I've said today, I believe. You believe the earth is flat? Yes. He just said it.

He admitted it, Jess. I've posted about it on Instagram. Jess doesn't even look surprised. Didn't we know this? Maybe we did. You don't have a great memory or listening skills. That's true. Things are true.

Admit that. Whatever you just said. I can't remember. And I didn't hear it anyway. I actually think the earth is flat on one side. And then there's several other sides because it's more of a pyramid shape. More of a trapehizoid. Yeah.

Trapehizoid. You've heard of these pyramid schemes. I think of this one more of the trapezoid. Is that what I'm thinking? Yeah, you mix trapezeum with trapezoid. That's a new shape that I've come up with. I like it. Copyrighted.

Trapperhezoid. So despite people like James Cameron being about shit, the defence's case was rejected by the jury. Lindy Chamberlain was convicted of murder. What? On the 29th of October, 1982. So this is more than just a hearing now. This is actually a criminal trial.

Yeah. Okay. Wait, a jury? A jury. So a jury going, well, this dingo man's got some fancy words, but look at her. She's stoic. Yeah.

That's not right. But also. I mean, this was such a hugely publicised case that everyone on the jury has already got an opinion about her. Right. This is all... I no longer trusts the system. Well, that's why we have subjudice here where you can't, you have to be very careful with court reporting because you can influence the people's opinions on someone and then they end up in the jury.

But now this has already been going for two years. People have already made up a mind about her. And so whatever They're post judicry Whatever they hear That supports their opinion They'll believe But the judge would have said at the start

Guys just put that out of your mind And they would have done that Yeah Of course Yeah that's true Normal people Without any legal training Would have done that

Yeah So she was convicted of murder And sentenced to life in prison Oh my God And Michael Chamber And Michael Chamberlain was found guilty As an accessory After the fact

And was given An 18 months Suspended sentence I'm almost like almost something nice about, you know, it's the nightmare scenario where no one believes you. Yeah. But at least they both are like, we know we didn't do it. At least they had each other, you know what I mean?

Yeah, but obviously it's separated now. It's a horrible and awful situation, but at least you know someone believes you for real. Someone knows the truth. Yeah, I guess so, yeah. I'm just thinking of those, you know those nightmare thriller movies? Yeah. Where you're, everyone's like, she's lost her mind. But you're like, no.

I'm the only one who's got my mind. Yeah. And then you start to think you're crazy. And you start yelling, I'm the only one who's got my mind. It's not helping. It is not helping. I've got my mind. Look at me.

I've got it. It's you who does not have your mind. I have my mind. Release me. It was you who was in a cellar. Unhand me, officer. I was just eating a succulent meal. Succulent Chinese me.

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So Lindy's been sentenced to life in prison At the time she was sentenced She was pregnant with her fourth child Oh my God I don't think I've ever been angry in this studio I'm so angry So she was taken from prison to hospital to give birth to a girl named Carlia. Lindy said in an interview recently,

it was a very painful process actually because I knew the minute she was born, they were going to take her off me. So every moment of birth, I fought it. I was like, you keep her inside and she's yours. The minute she's out, she's not. Because they've just been like, it's been a couple of years. They're sort of as best they can going about their lives. They didn't think she was going to get life imprisonment.

She didn't do it. They're just growing their family. And they had a hearing that said she didn't do it. Yes. We believe you. You didn't do it. I mean, no spoilers or anything. I'm assuming she didn't do it.

It sounds like all the evidence. I mean, you are pretty biased. Yeah, I'm definitely presenting a very biased case. How much you even know about the dingoes? I know they can't open their mouths. So. I know dingoes can't melt still beams. I know they're either solo or in packs.

I know that. One of the two. Can't trust him. I've seen them at the zoo and they're a little bit cute. Yeah. There, I said it. Everyone was thinking it. Dogs are cute.

I've got my mind! It is you who do not have your mind. But in 1986, another person's tragedy would see a dramatic turn in Lindy Chamberlain's case. Wait, what? Not in 86? Yes. She's been in jail for five years or something. Like, yeah, three, four years.

Without her baby, her new baby. Yeah. And she's lost her other baby. Yes. And being accused of murdering. And obviously her two older boys are, you know, older now. So she's been away from her kids. So what are they out in, they were in foster care?

Well, they would have been with Michael, I assume. But he didn't he got out of suspended sentence. It goes on your record, but you don't. If you do anything in a certain period, then that gets doubled on your sentence or whatever. So the kids are at least still with Michael, but Lindy's in jail. So 86, an English hiker named David Brett, visited Uluru in January of 86 and climbed the rock one evening. Unfortunately, David fell and was killed.

Eight days after his accident, his body was discovered below the bluff where he'd lost his footing in an area full of dingo layers. As police scoured the area looking for missing bones that might have been carried off by dingoes, they discovered a once white jacket of a baby. It was Azaria's missing jacket. Whoa. A matinee jacket? A matinee jacket, yes.

Inside one of the boroughs? Just like in the area close to where David's body fell. Right. If he'd fallen anywhere else. She might still be in jail. Yeah. And how terrifying is the phrase like all those dingo layers if you fall in? Yeah.

So dingo layers right there at Uluru. The base of Uluru, yeah. Well, because there's all, I mean, it's an enormous. Have you been there? We didn't talk about it. I haven't been. I'd love to. No, no.

I've only been a, I've been a Darwin. I went to Simpsons. Yeah, I was with you. Yeah. We went to Alice Springs. It's not called Simpsons Gap. That's the English name. Yes.

But beautiful. That was just outside of Darwin. But I've never been anywhere near the Dead Tenor. Yeah, sadly I, um. Alice, sorry, yes. Went to go in year 11, there's a camp to Kakadu National Park. And on the way there you go through all the room. But I got very sick with tonsillitis.

Oh. But I didn't want to. miss out on the whole camp so four days in i met them in alice springs just after they'd been to all the roos so and then i picked up and had a great time but just missed out on seeing yeah i would have liked to have gone while we were in ell springs but it's like a four-hour drive from there or something we couldn't have done it in a day but it's truly beautiful but it's massive and there's all sorts of like other there's um other formations and stuff around it so it's a huge area so just by chance by luck oh yeah so they found the jacket that they were like what jacket

It doesn't exist, but it did. Simpsons Gab was called Rung Gut Jerper. Rung gut jerper. Right. So given the skepticism, prosecutors had expressed for Lindy's story about the missing jacket, there seemed little choice now. The chief minister ordered Lindy's release from prison. Really?

Can you do that? Well, yeah. I suppose so, yeah. I guess I found new evidence that. So they don't have to have another trial. It's just a guy can... So she's been released from prison, but obviously people are still like,

you killed your baby. Right, because you were found guilty. And then you put the jacket in the dingoes there. We all know you. Somehow from prison you did that. And then you pushed a man off a cliff. Really? Do you think she did that? There was a lot of effort.

No, I do not think that. Just the record. In 87, a Royal Commission began and investigated it even further. So this is seven years after it happened. They're still in court. It's just a nightmare. So, May of 87, Justice Trevor Mawling issued a 379 page report.

One more page. Trevor. The end. One more page. Oh, that's a frustrating page that just says the end on it, though, right? Right on a couple more paragraphs. Anyway, in summary, I'd love to say, thank you so much for reading, taking the time. It really does mean a lot.

This has been a lot of effort on my part, but I can't. stress this enough that without an audience, these words are nothing. Without a reader, what is a writer? But a bonkers man in a room, timidty tapping on a typewriter, but not for me, as you are here today, to see these words on the paper, the end. I'm afraid you've just gone over to 381. You're going to have to write another nine pages. But it is not to the end. Or was it?

For it was I! It was I who had the succulent Chinese meal. Anyway, so he's released this very big report, critical of the investigatory techniques of Joy, Kuhl and James Cameron, and other key prosecution witnesses in the trial. He put great weight on the credible accounts offered by the Chamberlain's fellow campers, noting it is extraordinary that the persons at the barbecue area at the time of and immediately after Azaria's

disappearance accepted Mrs. Chamberlain's story and noted nothing about her appearance and conduct suggesting that she had suddenly killed her daughter. So he's like, you really needed to listen to the the witnesses more because they were like, yeah, we, you know, like she wasn't covered in blood and holding a knife.

Mawling concluded, I am far from being persuaded that Mrs. Chamberlain's account of having seen a dingo near the tense was false. And he also said that if the evidence before the commission had been given at the trial, the trial judge would have been obliged to direct the jury to acquit the Chamberlains. So he was like, this is all just a big fuck-up.

So on September 15, 1988, the Northern Territory Court of Criminal Appeals unanimously quashed all convictions against Linda and Michael Chamberlain. A month later, the Chamberlains held a victory feast and invited guests... A succulent meal? I held at the Avondale College Cafeterian,

And among those they invited, the Chamberlains invited, defence witnesses and lawyers, a couple whose daughter was taken from their car by a dingo, a journalist and politicians who'd supported them during their long ordeal, and their lawyer Ken Crispin in a speech, praise the Chamberlains for being remarkably free of bitterness or self-pity. So they're having a bit of a celebration. That same year in 1988, a film based on the case was released,

was called Evil Angels in Australia. It was released as a cry in the dark. outside of Australia. So what we talked about earlier, it starred Sam Neal and Meryl Streep, which is a wild choice, but also a fun fact, and I don't know if you guys know this,

and if you do, I'm going to feel like an idiot for being so excited about it, because I didn't know. I was excited when I first said, I reckon. Do you know what I mean? It was also the debut role

for Melbourne, comedian, actor and friend, Nicolette Minster. Really? One of the siblings. She played Carlya Chamberlain. She played Merrill Streep's daughter. Her first ever role was a four-year-old.

I had Nick on first date with Jess, and we talked about all sorts of stuff. She didn't fucking mention this. And then she goes on Dan Connell's podcast, and I'm listening to her because I love Dan Connoll. I love Nick Minster. And he's talking about it. I was like, what the fuck?

That's crazy. She plays Meryl Streep's daughter, her first ever role as a four-year-old. I think I might have heard her talk about it on Josh Earl's podcast. Yeah, right. It blew my mind. I was like, you know the six degrees of Kevin Bacon. I was like, one to Merrill.

Oh, Merrill knows Kevin Bacon? I assume. She's Merrill. She would. She knows everyone. Yeah, that's so cool. Blows my mind. And I know Nicolette, you know?

Yeah. Anyway. Yeah, you know her. I know her. We're pals. Okay. Wow. Yeah, if I see her in the street,

it wouldn't just be like a nod. Like, we'd stop and chat, you know? Holy moly. Yeah. We're that close. And I imagine the next time I know what you're going to mention to her when you stop and chat. No, I'll ask her how she is. Matt.

You'll ask how Merrill is. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I meant. She is Merrill. Yeah. How is she? The Royal She. Also, I didn't know this.

Merrill's performance received an Academy Award nomination for Best Actress of 89. Bam. One of her 21 or whatever it is. It's really ridiculous. Wild. And in 1990, Lindy wrote a book called Through My Eyes. And in the book, she said that the film was 95% accurate and that no other actress would have been able to play her better than Merrill Streep.

Wow. It's like, okay, you think the best actress ever. No one could do a better job. That's badass. Pretty crazy. In the last pages of our book, Lindy wrote, and now we wait. We wait for the Northern Territory to pay us what they owe.

And that day finally came two years later when she received $1.3 million in compensation from the Northern Territory government for wrongful imprisonment. That is. Probably not enough. Probably not enough. But even though she's free and the government's admitted wrongful imprisonment, the public was still split on whether or not she was guilty.

So she's still just talking. to go about her life but like people aren't trusting her or they do believe her but some don't and I think that's how we kind of came to know that name because it was always sort of like a but did she yes I've had that association until tonight and I feel bad about it but I've done like I've done no research into it you're just a kid and you just sort of take what it is pick up society's view totally and it's kind of like a oh but you know it's kind of like an oj Simpson thing in a way you know except the opposite yeah I know but like but we all still think he's guilty.

Yeah. Whereas they then proved that she wasn't and we're all still like, blizzard. Right. Wait, that's kind of the same. Anyway, I've confused myself. The Chamberlains actually got divorced

in 1991 and Lindy remarried a guy called Rick Creighton, and she's now known as Lindy Chamberlain Creighton. And Michael also remarried, a woman named Ingrid Bergner. Ingold Bergman, whoa! You paused at a real funny spot there. Ingrid Burr.

I couldn't see my screen properly. Burblur. And they had a nice. another daughter as well named Zara. And in August 2010, on the 30th anniversary of the death of Azaria, Lindy appealed on her website to have the cause of death amended on Azaria's death record because it was still saying unknown. Right.

Even though she'd been, like, acquitted, like she was free. So just to wrap up. And that hasn't happened? In February 2012, a fourth coroner's inquest into the death of Azaria Chamberlain was opened by a territory coroner, Elizabeth. Morris. Morris considered new evidence concerning dingo attacks on humans, including three fatal attacks on children since the third inquest, before concluding in an opinion announced on June 12, 2012 that a dingo did indeed kill Azaria.

Morris wrote, the evidence is sufficiently adequate, clear, cognate and exact to exclude all other reasonable probabilities than that a dingo entered the tent where Lindy and Michael Chamberlain's young child lay resting on August, on the... that August night 32 years earlier. Lindy Chamberl and Creighton stated the obvious one she said, this battle to get the legal truth about what causes Zaria's death has taken too long. Still, however, she took consolation in knowing you can't, you can get justice when you think all is lost.

She hoped that her baby's death helped convince Australians that Dingoes are dangerous animals. And she said, we live in a beautiful country, but it is dangerous and we would ask all Australians to take proper precautions. And even with the case of the death on Azaria's death certificate changed from unknown to dingo attack, the Chamberlain's attorney, Stuart Tipple, great name, wondered whether any amount of evidence would satisfy some Australians who still blame Lindy. He said, I could show them a video of the dingo taking the baby and it wouldn't convince them. Wild that they have, who's got such a strong opinion on something that, I always find that weird when there's experts have gone through it and it's like, oh, this is pretty open and shut. Yeah, but I've got my doubt.

Exactly. I've got a feeling. Yeah. Real weird. And just like a couple of extra things. This is something that Lindy said, she said she holds no grudges for a false imprisonment. You totally could. But she said, if I hadn't gone through all that, we wouldn't have the laws that we've got in Australia right now.

We've got an independent forensic science now. It used to be all police. And as a result of that trial, if I'd been let out at the time, if I'd gotten a not guilty at the trial we wouldn't have those laws. There are things that there are things that what's happened to me has been able to make it better for other Australians and for that I'm grateful.

So that's... She just sounds like she's... Pretty level-headed. She was on... She was on... What's Arndot's show? Barnsy, Arnsie and Farmsy. The show where Arndot,

he sits down with a guest and he interviews them, but while he's interviewing them, he paints them. Man, he's so good. He's incredibly talented. And Lindy was on there earlier this year, actually. And she revealed this as well. So, because remember, the four-year-old Regan was in the tent as well. Right.

He was sleeping in the tent. Lindy put Azaria in there, but they thought he'd just sort of slept through it all. She goes, the first time that we knew that he was awake and remembered anything was when we got a new dog. He was lying on the floor and the puppy ran over his back and he sort of sat up and went, oh, you're like, shuddered. And I said, what's the matter? And he said, oh, that's just like when the dingo walked on me. And I said, but I thought you were asleep when I came in.

And he said, nah, when you first came in, I thought it had come back to get me. So I played dead until you kicked me and spoke. So the kid felt the dingo and people were still like, nah. Yeah. They're not going to listen to a four-year-old in court if that's where you're going. No, no, I just, yeah, is that the first time that came out? Years later. Wow.

Yeah. What a huge thing for that kid to hold on. Totally, yeah, but like he didn't even realize. But anyway, let's think more about her being very cool and saying she's grateful she went through it because it means better laws for all Australians. Yes. Yeah, wow. I remember as a kid, there used to be a show called Good Newsweek.

I don't know if you ever. Good News Week. Yeah, I loved it. So there, and one of the... One time, I don't know why it was in the news, but it was obviously in the news for some reason. One of the monologue jokes that Paul McDermott did was, he goes, there's going to be a new opera about the ordeal called Domingo took my baby. He was one of the three tedders.

And I remember thinking, I just, I don't know why that is still stuck in my head. Wow. That really stuck for you. Domingo took my baby. It is crazy how it did become a real source of comedy. Yeah. Exactly. It's what I mean. It's a baby.

It's an awful thing to have happened. It's so bad. That's one of the hardest stories we've ever had on this show. Yeah. To hear. I didn't really think that through before I... Yeah, well, it's so interesting. I'm glad you did that because I just did not know enough about it.

Totally. Neither did I. And I think it is one of those things where, like, we've just kind of grown up knowing that that person or that name was a bit of a joke, I guess. It's just a bit of a joke. joke and it's so terrible because it's like one of the biggest miscarriages of justice in our country's history. And then to think about how awful it would be to lose your baby. And then to think about the people are like, nah, you did it. And when you didn't do it. And then to go to jail for all years.

And then to only get let out because someone else died. Yeah, like a chance. What if he'd not fallen? Maybe they would have found it eventually, but it could have been decades later. It could have happened after she'd already passed away. or something. In that time, other kids have been taken by dingoes. And no one went, oh, hang on.

Maybe it is possible. Bigger kids were taken. Never happened before. Yeah. Nope. I hate that kind of. When you're talking about someone's whole life and like, and you're so like, such a throwaway thing, that couldn't happen.

You probably shouldn't be a cop. Yeah. Do we know what happened to that James Cameron block? I hope that he was discredited forever and. We don't, but we do know that VHS was first released in 1976 and DVDs in 1996. That's both in Japan. So VHS was around for a good 20 years before DVD. Yeah.

And then I guess when did DVD start fading out? Maybe they both had about 20 years in the sun. Probably. Maybe DVD not quite as much. Anyway, that brings us to everyone's favorite. of the show. That was my favourite section of the show. Well, because I was just warming you up for fact quote or question with a little fact of

my own. But here it is. Here is fact quote or question. The jingle goes like this. Fact quote or question. Bing! Now last week I had to try and do that on my own whilst quietly talking into our Zoom recorder and it did not sound as good.

So we're now... So what have you learnt, Dave? Great to have you back. Thank you. So you can get involved in this of you. Support us at patreon.com slash dogo on pod on the. The Sydney-Shineberg Deluxe Memorial Package Level. RIP.

And this week, we've got two great fat quotal questioners, including long-term friend of the show, Mark Chopper Reid. Chopper! You also get to give yourself a title. He's given him himself, or he's stuck with the title of Do Go on Dorman. No, do-go-Dorman. Because he helped us at the Manchester show last year. What a bloody legend.

Great. And he's asked this question. Astronauts versus cavemen in a fight Who wins? Oh Can I say cavemen weird? Cavemen Cavemen

Well I think like Astronauts don't have weapons on them No But do cavemen We might have some sort of bat Oh okay But so might an astronaut But but

But Cave men would be used to like Fighting animals Yeah You'd think they'd be They'd be But they'd be weak From not getting enough nutrients

No, but not the caveman died. Were they quite short too? Yeah, but I feel like they would just like, they would have hard skulls. But an astronaut has the helmet to protect their skulls. Oh, so you're thinking an astronaut in the full suit. I think of course. That's Cumberson. But astronauts are nerds.

Astronauts are nerds who've never had to be in that. But they can do real quick maths. Yeah, they're great, like, in the space. Whatever. They can figure out their angles that they need to do. I say cavemen as well. You know, like Sherlock Holmes in the Robert Danny Jr. movies?

Yes. Where he's like doing the sums in his head. And then he beats them up with the sums. He beats people up with maths. Can you believe it? Maths is cool. Yeah, maths is cool. I've said that a lot.

But I'm still saying cavemen. I'm going to back astronauts because of their advanced suits for protection, I believe. And also, I just think they're pretty badass. A lot of them are former military people. I reckon the cavemen are going to choke them out with their suit. Also, I think cavemen would just shit themselves and they see these astronauts coming towards them. I also think cavemen have pet saber-tooth tigers who are going to eat the astronauts and then you're going to look like a dickhead.

And are these cavemen just get... The astronauts might be coming straight from space. They're all emaciated or whatever. Imagine how jet-lagged you'd be. They're all emancipated from the spacecraft. You'd be so jet-lagged. Yeah. You lose a lot of weight in space.

You do? Yeah. I'm in. Because you have to shit into a suction cup. Ah! Yeah, that's right. They're probably... Their whole suit is just like full of shit, right?

Yeah. You have to shit into a suction cup? Yeah, it's a weird process. I don't enjoy that. Yeah, because I guess otherwise it just floats away. Is it clear at all... A vacuum is what I was looking for. Suction cup.

Is it clear at all why he would have asked us that question? Mark Chopper Reed? No, he just does. Is there a thing? Is that a big thing? Astronauts versus Caveman? Or is that... I've never heard of it.

It's just something that's been bugging him. It's a new band. Just because I've never heard of it doesn't mean it's not a cool thing, though. Not of the Zitegeist. But if I haven't heard of it, it's not a cool thing. Thank you. I know all the cool things. Triple J.

Call in. Who do you think would win? No, 439-757-7-3-5. We've all accidentally given out our own phone numbers at some point. Did you just do that? No, no, no. That was the triple-day text line.

Okay, well, thank you so much, Mark Chopper Reid, for that fantastic question. Maybe let us know, Choppah, who do you think would win? Yeah, that's right. Have we missed something critical here? Chopper, text in. 0439-75, 7-2-25. Also, on the, what do we call it, the Sydney-Shineberg, Deluxe Memorial Package Edition, rest in peace.

Kathleen Moody. And Kathleen has given herself the title, Mage of Magic Hands. Oh, I like that. Mage of Magic Hands. Sounds like a Dungeons and Dragons thing. Yeah. Am I saying Major, M-H-E-E?

Or is that Magi? It's a... It's a... It's pronounced Mageeeman. Measeman of magic hands. Meja. And Kathleen asked the question. Well, hang on.

I should say for people listening for the first time, I don't read these before I read them on the air. Kathleen writes, I'm currently living in Kansas, but I'm a Texas girl at heart. So my question to each of you is this. If you were to live in the Wild West, which character archetype would you be? Brackett, example, cowboy, Indian, gunslinger, gold rush, Oregon trail traveler. That's one thing, I think. Oregon Trail Traveler, Sheriff, or, etc. Oh, I think we know David B.

What would I be? Town drunk. Sheriff. Matt's the town drunk. I was like, town drunk an option? I want to be, can I not be town drunk, but can I be one of those angry guys at the bar? I was going to say you're definitely a glass polisher who said, you're not from around here, huh? The doors open, the music stops.

Yeah. Oh, who's playing the piano? It's a player piano. No. Yeah, we don't need someone to. I'm so lazy. I took lessons on how to play the player piano. Wow, that is lazy.

Brunny Dangerfield, guest starring on the Simpsons, Larry Burns. Anyway, I'm going to be a gunslinger. I reckon that suits me, don't you think? So you're a gunslinger. I'm a sheriff. Let me just turn. Is that a sheriff voice? That's Dave's Sheriff's Sheriff's.

That's Deputy. That's Sheriff Goldworthy. You're a Deputy. Sheriff Goldworthy. Kathleen does say P.S. some context about my title. I'm a massage therapist. And a lot of my clients, when I was starting out, said I have magic hands.

So I just rolled with it. I bet you would get that a lot. Magic hands is a high compliment for a masseuse. Yeah, you love a bloody masseuse, don't you? Magic hands. Magic hands. All right. Well, yeah, I think, so what have we got?

We've got, I'm the bar keep. I was picturing myself on the other side of the bar, but you turn me around. You've got me behind the bar, Dave. I was thinking I was one of those guys sort of hunched over at the bar. Right. I thought you were... Whiskey. Getting drinks and then the music stops on the plate piano.

Can you not see Matt standing behind the bar? I reckon that dude's often heavily bearded. I'm happy with that role. Matt's definitely at the bar, yes. Yeah, but I thought you're the guy who's... You're still drinking a lot. I like the other... One for you, one for me, you know what I mean?

Sliding them down the bars. Yeah. And then the brawl gets going on. I just duck down. I got my two-shot gun. I'm a pretty big gun expert. Is that a kind of gun? Yep.

As a gunslinger, yes. Yeah. Oh, sick. I love Texas. We should go there. Thank you so much, Kathleen Moody. Thank you, Kathleen. And now it's time for us to give a little bit of love,

give some shoutouts to some of our people who support us on Patreon at patreon.com forward slash do go on pod. We can get two bonus episodes every month that no one else hears and a bunch of other rewards. And normally, well, we always play a bit of a game, and I've thought of one. Remember how they figured out what Azari's name meant? What if we gave them name meanings? Oh, great.

Do you like that? Like the Latin. Like the Latin. Like the Latin. Like the Latin. Oh, yes. Oh, it could just be a nice meaning, Dave. You don't have to be a fucking psycho.

Well, you laughed maniacally. Well, I bloody, that's you. That's what you sound like. I do impressions now. You're very good. It's Matt. Oh, you got my number. So can I start it?

Yes, please do. I would love to thank from Christchurch just across the pond in New Zealand. A beautiful place. A gorgeous place. I was there earlier this year. I miss it already. I would love to thank Alexander Jones. Alexander Jones.

I believe Alexander Jones is a podcast or he does a podcast about the films of Air Bud, the Air Bud. cinematic universe. That is awesome. That's great. If I'm thinking of the right guy, he got in contact this week because primates last week was about finishing the most valuable primate trilogy, which is a side hustle for the uteur Robert Vince, who was also involved in the airbud movies. How many airbud movies are there for a video first?

I think he did 18. There's airbus. 18. Because there's like snow, it's something like snow puppies. Oh, snow dogs. So he'd be wealthy from that. Yeah.

That's awesome. I think he might be Canada's wealthiest film. He's Canada's Steven Spielberg. Yeah. That's so embarrassing. He's an oruteur, the author, Robert Vince. But what does Alexander mean? Ah, what does Alexander mean?

It means puppy lover. Loves the pups. Oh, that does make you sound guilty. of a crime. Yeah. Wait, what? Been a dog lover. Puppy lover.

It doesn't have to be of a crime. It doesn't have to be of a crime, Dave. Oh, if my crime is loving puppies on film too much, then I guess I'm guilty, Your Honor. Well, we'll lock him up, boy. Oh, no, wait, no, it's being dramatic. Oh, no. Not guilty. Too late.

There you go, Alexander Puppie Lover Jones. Guilty. So guilty. Okay, we'll just give them their name meaning, and if they're guilty or not guilty. Okay. I would also love to thank from Ottawa Oh In Canada

I would love to thank Chris Fornier Oh, fornia Hornea That actually means A celibate rifle Which is A rifle that

It's my mate in celibus It shoots blanks It never shoots blanks No, it always It always Shoots blanks Right, okay. I don't know.

Cellate Rifles is, it's an Australian punk band from the 70s and onwards. But I don't know. What Chris means. Well, hornea is the opposite of that, but faunia is where the celibacy comes from. Yeah. No, I get it.

So celibate rifle, I enjoy that. Yeah, he's a celibate rifle. And he is... He's got a gun, so people know to be wary. But he's not guilty. He'll never use it. Yeah. He's a lover, not a fighter.

Yeah, puppy lover. So thank you to Chris. They're all puppy lovers. Thank you to Chris and Alex there. I'd love to thank again from Canada, also the homeland of the Autur, Robert Finns. From Whistler, beautiful ski town. My brother, I think, spent some time there skiing a few years back. Jack Walker.

And Walker, obviously, meaning to scoombo. on one's bum. Ah. Oh, the bum scooter. Yeah, you know how little kids do that? Sometimes before they walk, they just kind of scoot on their butt for a bit. Yeah, it puts a wheel between the cheeks and scoots. Guilty.

Guilty! My booty scooting babies driving me crazy. That's him? Yes. That was what it is. He's a booty scooter. He's a booty scooter. Booty scooter.

So thank you, Jack Walker. The booty scooter. I'm a booty scooter. And I'd love to thank from Birmingham in Great Britain. Well, we will be very, very soon. And so will he be. It's Gary Jay. Gary Jay from the UK.

Gary Jay, certainly in our Gary listener hall of fame. Oh, yeah, we've got a formal as the Gary Listener Hall of Fame. So what does Gary Jay mean? Or it's just the surname we're doing. We can be either. Okay. Well, I'd love to hear what Dave has to say about this. Either Gary or Jay.

He who eats exclusively from the lunch menu at Greggs. Whoa. Even for dinner and breakfast. Yeah, it's weird. Sometimes if they've run out of lunch stuff by dinner, he goes hungry. Oh. Sorry, Gary. Just buy double at lunch.

I've told him that. He refuses to do it. He likes to roll the dice. Classic Gary. Classic Gary. Gary Jay. That is so good. And you are guilty of being a connoisseur of Gregg's.

Yeah. And we'll see you very soon, Gary. Good on you, Gary. I would like to thank you if I can to take us home. now all the way from Oslo in Norway. Hell yeah. I would like to thank Erica Delacruz. Oh, great name.

Erica Delacruz. Holy moly. No way. So Delacruz. I mean, I think this has got a literal meaning that I know. Here we go. I'm so excited. It is of.

It's the. And it's Wining and dineen. Oh, off the whining and dine. Yeah, it is. Wow. Yep. That's her family made her business back in the day.

The whiners, they were diners. I think we should set a Patreon goal, right? If people contribute to our Patreon, we will pay for Matt to get improv classes. Sorry, because he stopped after a certain level. Don't send me back. You mean even more?

Even more improv classes. I've really... Sorry, I mean he will set up an improv school and teach him. After the show, I'm going to explain to just what improv means. I've done it before, but I'll have to do it again tonight. So, Erica Dela Cruz, Oslo's finest, whiner and diner. Winer and diner.

And with no pressure on her at all, I can't wait to hear what Jess comes up with for the last one. Oh, fantastic. Thank you so much for listening in Norway. That is very, very cool. And finally, from London, another city that we will be in next month. Very soon. Two dates there in London. The original show, which is the nighttime show, was sold out.

Few tickets left for the matinee, if anyone would like to join us, which I hope this person will. I would like to thank from London, Assad Tarhini. Oh, fantastic, man. Thank you, Assad Tarini. And Jess, here we go. Improv. Mind open. Give me an offer.

No, I'll give you an offer, which is Assad Tahini. And then you accept it by saying that that means... Yes, and Tahini is a spread made mostly with chickpeas. Oh, improv isn't just saying a thing that means a thing. That's what it means. Oh, is it? Is that what it means? I do have to get back. How would you improv that? Sorry, improve.

Hey, that's good improv. That is good. Probably with some olives. Ah, yes. Calamatta. Love them Calamatas. Calamatta. I only improv with a jar of calamata. I'm going to call Assad tahini.

One of the best names in the face. That is one of the best. Should we say, um, the human? Olive. Oh, the human olive. Guilty of loving olives. Yeah, exactly. The saltiest man I've known.

But in a good way. Yeah, good salty. A fantastic name, fantastic work. Thank you so much to all of our fantastic. See, I'm using a lot of different words here. Like, fantastic. Fantastic. Emphasis on fun.

Alexander, Chris, Jack, Gary, Erica and Assad. And I'd also like to thank for the first time ever we're going to be, we're opening up the Triptitch Club. So any of our supporters who've been on the shoutout level or above for three plus years get entered in to the Triptitch Club. Dave's going to make a page on the website where these names are going to go up. If you can figure out how to do it, gold, sparkly letters. If not, probably black.

Probably black. Or yellow? I don't think it does yellow. The internet's not that good here. I don't think it does yellow. Even though my logo, it's definitely yellow. I don't know, I don't think it does yellow. No, thank you.

So we've got quite a few because this is three years since we opened our Patreon. That's right, because this week, happy fourth birthday, by the way. Oh! Four years since we uploaded our first three episodes on November the 11th. And then we set our Patreon one year later. Yes. We look really bad for four. You know?

I reckon I'm looking great. We look cooked. I've never looked this good. I'm peaking right now. I have a small beard now. Yeah. Let me have this. I'm not stopping you.

I'm just saying for a four-year-old. You've got a George Lucas-esque small beard. Thank you. That's what I've always wanted you to say. Yours is probably even smaller than his somehow. I reckon it is. So there's a few to go in this week because these are all inaugural, basically, first week joiners of the club. Piet Free.

Dave, how do I say? Pete. Fuck. Not a strong start. Pete free. Zach Steinb. Three years of mispronouncing your name. Sorry, Zach Steinbecker.

Yes. Hannah Schollard. I love all these names. They're always the frequent collaborators with us. Chris Brockett. Elijah Shelley. Adam Stoltz. Janine Stephen.

Megan Ansel. Jess Newton. Justin McCain. David Malofsky. Mr. Justin McCain. Becca Buck. Becca.

And Chrissy Della. Oh, you legends. Yes. They're from... from the USA, Australia and Great Britain. Thank you so much to that people. Thank you so much.

Three years. Amazing. Thank you so much. Legends, one and all. So yeah, Dave, do you reckon by Wednesday you can get their names up on the website? Probably not.

But sometimes soon. We've got a lot to do before the UK. Yeah, sorry, we're drowning in reports here because are we announced this on the show yet that we're working on something a little bit special. The Patreon people know about it. They do. Have we mentioned it on the show though?

Which maybe we won't fully mention it just yet, but we are... There's something cooking. Something's a cooking here at our DoGo on HQ. That will be hopefully coming out next year. Yeah, you'll be able to see that early next year. Or hear it, or both. Or consume it. Yeah.

Cookies! Cakes and cookies for all! Oh, yum! I'd eat a cupcake with my face on it. Me too. I'm not about it. I meant my face. I love cake.

Let's get cake. Can we make, can they be mud? Mud cake? Yeah. Okay. Okay. I like red velvet. What do you like?

Cheese or ice cream cake. Yes. Okay, we've got an assortment of cakes. Love it. Something for everyone. Let's get out of here. Yeah, so thanks everyone for supporting the show at Patreon. It means a lot to us and yeah, it really does change our lives.

Keeps the show coming out every week for four years now, so I appreciate that. If you want to get in contact with us or buy tickets to the shows or buy merchandise, we'll send you a T-shirt anywhere in the world. You can go to do-go-onpod.com. Always appreciated when you hit up the website and click the links, which also takes us to the Patreon too and you can also click through to our Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube channel

where on the YouTube channel we have uploaded that UK Tour diary that I mentioned at the top of the episode and will also be a little link to that in this week's description of the episode. So if you want to watch our faces do stuff that's not a podcast, we ran around the UK and filmed it. What a weird way to say it. Ah, yes.

But that does bring us to the end of the episode. Thank you so much for listening. We'll be back next week with another episode, but until then I'll say thank you and goodbye. Later. Bye!

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