Do Go On - 214 - Jimmy Barnes, Working Class Man

Episode Date: November 27, 2019

This week we're lucky enough to be joined by Sam Tonkin from The Listen Now podcast to hear all about Jimmy Barnes. One of the most legendary figures in Australian music, Barnsey has lead quite the li...fe. From a tumultuous childhood in Glasgow, to selling out arenas vodka in hand, all the way through to becoming the screaming cowboy - this is a wild ride.Grab tickets for our upcoming live shows in IRELAND AND THE UK, grab tickets here: https://dogoonpod.com/events/Matt is performing an hour of stand up comedy at the Bill Murray in LONDON on December 7, find more details/get tickets here: https://mattstewartcomedy.com/gigsListen to Listen Now with Sam and Matt: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comCheck out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal, and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates.
Starting point is 00:00:41 This week's episode of Do Go On is brought to you by our Ireland and UK tour starting this weekend. Wait, what? I'm not even packed. Oh, neither have I. Oh, God. By the time you hear this, we'll already be in the air on the way there. Well, don't worry, because I've already converted my cash into Benjamin. so I'm ready to go.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Oh, no. This is not good. We'll have to tell him off air. Their currency there is clearly Michael's, oh dear. He does this every time. That's embarrassing. Oh, and also I'm doing a live stand-up show with more funny stuff like that
Starting point is 00:01:17 on the 7th of December in London. Did I say that yet? It's getting late. Yeah, we didn't mention any of our shows yet. You just jumped in. Also, should we start again? No, just quickly, we're doing shows. The first ones this Sunday in Dublin.
Starting point is 00:01:31 And then we are moving over to the UK for a week to the shows. We're not moving there permanently, sorry. We're going to Glasgow, Bristol, Leeds, Birmingham and London. Some of those are sold out. Look up which ones. And some aren't. All right, good intro. Do go onpod.com for tickets.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Matchyocomedy.com slash gigs. If you want to come to see me in London on the 7th of December, you should come. Well, we always have to do the slash gigs. Like people won't be able to navigate there themselves. Oh, I'm here now. Where do I go? What, do I click on this thing? Contact?
Starting point is 00:02:03 Contact. Is this where I click? Hmm. Well, I won't be going. And welcome. I'll do it. I'll do it. Hello and welcome to another episode of DoGo On.
Starting point is 00:02:28 My name is Dave Warnocky and I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. That's how you do it, Dave. Fantastic. For everyone out there, I do two podcasts now, which is one too many. Now, book cheetah is a slightly different intro. You had a meltdown. Yeah. Hello and welcome to bookcheet versus hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go One.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It's very confusing. That's okay. We got there and this is Do Go On, Dave. Thank you so much. Can I take my voice back for the rest? Maybe. I'm sitting here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. How are we?
Starting point is 00:02:58 Good, thank you. Thanks to having us on Book Cheat. It's good to be. Oh, no. No, Matt. No. So does this primate? Sorry, did you not listen?
Starting point is 00:03:06 It's another episode of Do Go On. This isn't that hot new podcast, listen now. Oh my God. Well, actually, listen now to this intro, because it's not just the three of us here. It's not just the three of us here. We have a special guest reporter, and that is your Listen Now co-host. Hello to Sam Tonkin. Hey, hello, hello, Sam Tonkin.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Hello, Matt Stewart. It's nice to meet you. Oh, sorry, I thought you were shaking my head. I'm grabbing the... Why are you grabbing the... What's happening? Oh, is this not a thing we're doing? Okay, never mind.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Matt's just fixing my microphone because I still haven't learned how to fucking talk into it yet. No, I can't see my computer. Life is hard. Anyway. This is the struggle of this podcast. Now, very recently, the podcast network within a podcast network, which is do go on podcast within Planet Broadcasting podcasts, added another podcast to the whole. It's like podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yeah. Our sexy new. Voice recording. You're trying to hit. In the family. Sexy new son's not right. Oh, my son's so sexy. Obviously, you've got an old man do go on in the corner.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Yeah. But who's this cool kid who's just arrived at school? Just looking his hair back, listen to music from the 70s. Yeah, he's the phones in the cafeteria, elbowing the locker. Jubebox. Can we, let's start this episode. What I'm trying to say is, Matt, you and Sam have launched a new podcast, fairly recently, called Listen Now.
Starting point is 00:04:38 That's right. Yes, and it's a podcast that goes through. some of the rockiness bands back catalogs. Starting with. Starting with Australian pub rock legends called Chisel. There you go. Have you chizzed before, Dave? Oh, I live to Chis.
Starting point is 00:04:55 That's actually really funny because that sounds a little bit like jiz. So that has a different meaning what you guys are saying there. That's disgusting. I did not mean that at all, which is probably makes it even funnier because I didn't mean it. No, I'm glad I could point it out for you. That is good stuff. Very good stuff, one and all. Yeah, so cold chisel, great band.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Anyway, not relevant for now. This is a different podcast. This is to go on. Yes. How does this one go, Dave? Well, this one usually goes like this. The three of us, or a guest, Sam. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:05:29 So great to have you here. Thanks. Do a report on a topic suggested often by a listener, or often suggested by a listener. And the people that aren't reporting, they don't know what the report is going to talk about. and usually we start with a question. I hope that one of us told you that. Yes. And if not,
Starting point is 00:05:46 well, you're already one step ahead of Jess because she rarely writes a question. I always forget. And when I write them, they're no good. So it's better if I riff them. But we're all different, Sam. We're all different.
Starting point is 00:05:56 If you wrote a question, cool. If you didn't, that's all right too. Jess thinks you're a nerd because you wrote a question. Shut up. It's the glasses,
Starting point is 00:06:04 isn't it? Fuck. If I take them off, I can't see your screen. I've just started wearing glasses at work to when I look at a computer. Yep. And I reckon today someone asked me a question
Starting point is 00:06:14 they wouldn't have last week because I was wearing glasses. Was it an IT question? Because I get them all the fucking time now. Have you tried turning it off and on again? You'd be surprised how much that fucking works. I'd say just clear your cookies. Clear your cookies and your cache data.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It works every time. Sounds so clever. Thank you. Cache. I used to work for a website and I would help in customer service and that was generally the go-to. would fix most things. It really does. It fixes everything. And they'd go, oh, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I go, yes, I have a degree. My office is on fire. Clear the cache. Have you cleared the cache? You got to clear that cache. Just Google it. Google it. It'll be fine. Don't put Google into Google. Anyway, yeah, let's kick things off. This question, the anticipation is building now. Yes. The tension. So, which Australian icon found their biggest fame in the US as a screaming cowboy. Okay. I mean, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:13 So many options. Shannon Null. The famous Aussie screaming cowboy. Yes. Who is better known as? The man from Snowy River. Oh, of course. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:25 No, it is, in fact, back to the cold chisel reference. It's Jimmy Barnes. Jimmy, man. None of us could get it. If only you had known. We're sitting right there in front of us all along. You can literally see her screen, Matt. You could have cheated there.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I don't cheat. It doesn't have glasses on that. Oh, yeah, you can't see shit. I can only see the screen if you got glasses. My glasses aren't seeing near glasses. They're seeing far glasses. Seeing far. They're seeing far glasses.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Okay, so don't even try and come at me because I got your measure. Is that how the optometrist gave you the? Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Cool. Excellent. Anyway, uh, so we, we.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Well, you guys, we, me, welcome, guys, to my new podcast. Maddie and the detective Herbert Corbyington, Covington, have both requested my boy Jimmy Barnes. Wow. Which is nice, convenient, easy, because I know him's life. I know him. I know him, but I have a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:30 That's a strong stuff. But in a way, you know, you feel like you know him. Through reading his book and watching many a YouTube video, I feel like I really know him. Yeah, I feel like a lot of Australians feel a little bit that way. Even without reading his book, you're just sort of like, oh, yes, Barnes is. It feels like that friendly neighbour.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Uncle Jim. Yeah. Uncle screaming Jim. God, he's loud, but he's a friendly guy. Oh, yeah. He feels like the type of uncle that would just always give you like 20 bucks or something. You know? And then say, can you pick me up a six-back?
Starting point is 00:08:58 Yeah, yeah. But you can keep the change. Yeah. Uncle Jimmy, I'm seven. Is that right? Fine, four-pack, whatever. Whatever can carry. Tiny arm blasted.
Starting point is 00:09:11 So, should we just go straight into it? I can't wait to learn more about Jimmy. So the tumultuous life. We're going to start sad here. I'm not going to lie. It's a sad start of Jimmy's life and most of his life. Hopefully there'll be a laugh in here. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I've not written this in any sort of a fun form. James Dixon Swan was born in 1956 in Cow Caton's in Central Glasgow, Scotland. He was the fourth of six children born to Jim and Dorothy Swan, who all lived together in Calcadans until December, 1961, when they decided to jump on the SS Strathnava to Australia with the intention of escaping the depressing greyness and poverty of Scotland. Oh, I'm so sorry, Scotland, which we will be in this time next week. In Glasgow.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Well, what year was he born, sorry? 56. So he was like five hours. Four or five or something. Yeah, right. He's really held on in the accent, hasn't he? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And he still remembers a lot of those times in Scotland. Like, he's still, he's got quite a strong memory for someone who drank for most of his own. Yeah. That was probably the only time in his life he wasn't drinking. Yeah. Funny you say that. He started at the age of nine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:25 What? Not even joking. Oh, Jimmy. I did not realize that Barnes, is that a stage name? No, but we will come to them later. Oh, I was going to say, because it's now a classic name because it's him. Yeah, Jimmy Barnes. It seemed like the name that you would pick.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Could have been Swanee. Yeah. Oh, no, I think someone else took that, actually. I moved to Melbourne when I was five as well from Country Victoria. And I, like, I retained the accent as well. I did. I did. And I, too right, I did.
Starting point is 00:10:53 But I remember quite a bit from those early years as well. So that makes sense. And yeah, you're right. You're too right that I do have the country Victorian accent still. But the accent is interesting because generally it's like, mid-teens is sort of the cut-off. Our friend Alasette Trombly-Burture, he has the Canadian accent or a lot of it
Starting point is 00:11:14 from when he moved over when he was 13, but his younger brother has got an Australian accent. And exactly the same with Dave Callan. That's right, yeah. Irish accent, his younger brother sounds Australian. What? Yeah, it's sort of like that 13 to, yeah, maybe it's 13.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I always sort of said 15, but it's probably a little bit earlier than that. Jimmy was very mature for his age. Yes. But yeah, he's sort of got a little bit. It's faint. It's there. It's never left. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Cool. Jimmy, so I read his books recently, which also we will come to. And he recalls living in an inner city slum filled with alcohol and violence, where as a kid, you couldn't step outside the house without a parent to protect you from the roaming gangs of teens. So teenagers are going to beat up some little kids. Yeah. It was like he has some story about him and his mate at like the age of four or five and they decided to, you know, go take. a risk and go for a walk, they got cornered by this gang of kids between like five and 15
Starting point is 00:12:10 who they like kind of trapped him in an area and were like throwing rocks and shit at him. And then they're like, you've got five seconds and run or else we're going to cut you up. And Jimmy said he just took off like nothing and his friend just basically shit himself and stood still. And so this gang like cut him up and he and lit the little shed on fire that he was in. And the last Jimmy ever heard of him was that he went to hospital. and that he thinks that he was okay because the family moved away.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yeah. But he doesn't know whatever happened to the kid. That normally means the kids survive when the family moved away. Yeah. Definitely is. But yeah, like, insane. Was that, so that was Glasgow?
Starting point is 00:12:50 Was that Adelaide? Glasgow. Holy shit. It doesn't feel very Adelaide, but, you know, it was a different time. Yeah. And also, it's not much to do in Adelaide. Yeah, they might, yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:57 the gangs were all drinking full body red. Ah, Saraz. It's really more psychoical. A neurological bully when you get to Adelaide. It's like, oh, you don't know anything about wine. Oh, is that only $15 per dollar? Oh, embarrassing. Oh, that's cute.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Far out, that's insane. Yeah, it's pretty fucked up, hey? That's messed up. So, and then, to add to this, Jimmy's parents had a violent relationship where they fought constantly, usually to his father's drinking. Jim Senior would get paid, head straight to the pub and spend pretty much the whole income for the week,
Starting point is 00:13:33 would return to his wife who was fuming, swearing would turn to yelling, which would turn to punching, and Jim Sr. in his day, was a featherweight prize fighter. Okay. So Jimmy's mom, Dorothy, was constantly on the losing end.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Oh, fuck. It's a real fucking depressing start to life. And also this podcast, sorry, sorry, guys. I was trying to be like, where can I just like, you know, lighten it up? It's fucking nothing. Yeah, it's sort of hard to brush it over.
Starting point is 00:14:01 So he had a really bad life. His dad's a bad dude anyway. Yeah, and I was saying, like, I messaged Matt earlier, and I'm like, have I spent too much time with, like, the early stages? But so much of it explains why he was, how he was later in life. Totally. I think you... We're going to go into it.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yeah, and you've got to... I can tell you that we've covered some pretty fucked up stuff. So it's... Yeah, you're fine. Cool. Excellent. Yeah. And we've made jokes about some pretty fucked up stuff too, so...
Starting point is 00:14:28 Don't worry. Remember when the Zodiac Killer wore clip on glasses? And a bib. And a bib. Bib. What a dead. How do you do clip on glass? Onto his balaclava.
Starting point is 00:14:40 He clipped him on to his balaclava, I think. He's a thinker. Anyway, that's fun. Are she, they? I don't know. Anyway. No, good assumption. He.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Oh, good. Oh, wait, did they catch him? No, but the descriptions were pretty... That was a report I did. Couldn't tell him. No idea, Sam. Excellent. But have a listen.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I've got no idea. Cool. So the Swan family then arrived in Adelaide in January, 1962, and we're taken to Finsbury Hotel, which was basically a really shitty government housing type of thing. So Finsbury housed about 2,300 people in small cramped corrugated iron huts that had no insulation from the biting cold or the searing heat. Because Adelaide goes both ways. Both ways. It gets hotter than Melbourne and probably as cold.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Regularly upwards of 40 is. Yeah, their summers are even more brutal than ours. So it sounds like they took them a few months to get here, did it? Yeah, it's on the boat. What was it? Just over a month. Makes it sound like, I'm now picturing like ye oldie times. Catch it coming over with the first fleet or something.
Starting point is 00:15:49 They called themselves the 10-pound tourists because it costs like 10-pound to escape anywhere in the UK by the sounds of it. And then go to Australia to a fucking desert. Yeah. How are we getting to Dublin? Were you catching a 10-pound boat? Oh, yeah. 30 pounds, we're getting there. No return ticket.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Couldn't afford it. How long is it going to take us to get there? Six weeks? Oh, we're going to miss the show. Oh, no. Who's done the logistics here? I'll make some calls. To my travel agent, hello, flight center.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Why did you book a boat? You called flight center. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. I'm giving them a terrible Yelp review. Oh, come on. Yeah, now you're right. Sorry, about that.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Two and a half at least. So the tenants had to share toilets, bathrooms and wash houses, which was much to the disgust of most of them who had moved from similar conditions in Scotland and England. So Jimmy talks about like in his, in Glasgow, they'd be in like also kind of government type buildings. And if you had to go to the toilet, it was like a separate building out the back.
Starting point is 00:16:53 You'd have to walk past like drunks and, you know, people getting killed and stuff with a parent. Yeah. And then they've moved to Australia, you know, the lucky country and I have to deal it the same thing again. In 10 sheds. Pretty, yeah, like, and they're in circular. So they, like, couldn't hang out picture frames and make it homey.
Starting point is 00:17:11 They were just in, like, a fucking water tank by the sims. Yeah, it does sound like a water tank. Weird. Good for keeping water at least. Yeah, I mean, not with people in it, but some win some lose some, I suppose. Could they live under a sea? Oh. Can we fill it with water?
Starting point is 00:17:29 That would be a bit more comfortable in the heat. Oh, but not good in the cold. Lylos, what if it's warm water? You guys are thinking. So after two years of living in this shitty public housing, the swans got a place of their own in Elizabeth, which is about 24 kilometres north-east of Finsbury, which is slightly north of Adelaide.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Geography fans. Oh, there's a few geography fans who listen in. Adelaide's like west of Melbourne, but east of Perth. Yeah. sort of, yeah, northwest of Melbourne, south of Alice Springs. Yes. Probably southwest of Brisbane. Yeah, yep.
Starting point is 00:18:07 South of Dublin. Is it west? By quite a margin. Unless you keep going north. Okay. O. Then you get that. It's a really fun.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Up and over. So, unfortunately, the drinking and fighting only got worse until one day when Jimmy was eight years old, his mother left. He describes waking up one morning to find that she just wasn't there. And quote, didn't wake up expecting to find her gone. I didn't hear any fighting in the middle of the night. There was no breaking glass.
Starting point is 00:18:34 No swearing or cries for help. There wasn't even any shouting. She was just gone. So eight years old, he's got, I think, three older siblings, two younger siblings, including like a real young baby. And his mother was just like, no, I'm out. It's too much. So in the time after Dorothy, his mother left, the poverty only got worse and worse.
Starting point is 00:18:55 One of the saddest stories that he talks about is the completely. complete lack of food that they had available. His oldest sister Dot had stolen and hidden 10 bucks from their dad while he was like passed out on the couch, taking it to buy a sack of potatoes to cook for the kids to eat. She's only like 16 or 17 at this point. And meanwhile, the youngest sister, Linda, had brought home some stray cats who decided to shit on the sack of potatoes. But they were so desperate.
Starting point is 00:19:24 The old rockabilly band. Isn't it? Oh, the stray cats. Oh, yeah. Jeez. Shit. That's classic rock and rollers. Sucker potatoes was also a band.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Stray cats did not like them. Violent times in Adelaide in 60s. But they were so desperate for food that they had to scrub the shit off the potatoes, gagging into the sink just so they could eat something for dinner. Cat shit is bad. That's bad. Some of the worst shit. Thanks for clarifying.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I was almost certain that you were going to tell me that they ate the cats with the potato. Yeah, we said she wanted to have cats. I was like, oh no, don't eat cat meat. I think it's poisonous. It's catmate poisonous. I'm fairly sure that's why it's not a delicacy, right? Oh, I don't know. Delicacy.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Yeah, because in a lot of countries, they do eat dogs. Yeah. They're good eating, apparently. Don't. I have no idea, but I mean, I imagine if it's a delicacy in some countries. Yeah, right. True. But no, Dave, they didn't eat the cats.
Starting point is 00:20:21 They just scraped the cat shit off the potatoes. Something that's a real step up. Probably kicks the cats out for it. This is how we can work to. the tragedy. Just imagine the worst thing in the world and it doesn't seem as bad. You catch it. That's way better than eating a cat. Is it? I don't even know. It's all about
Starting point is 00:20:36 perspective. Yeah, exactly. So an unspecified period of time later Jimmy's mom came back for them bringing her new partner at Reginald Victor Barnes. Oh, Barnes. Reg is a great name. Mr. Barnes. Isn't that so
Starting point is 00:20:50 bloody straya? Yeah. We used to have neighbors that lived across the road from us next door to each other, her brothers. Reg and Des. Oh, yeah. That's a great. That's so good. And also the guy who came up with Neighbors, the TV show, was named Reg Grundy. What?
Starting point is 00:21:05 Actually? There you go. Reg. Excellent. When you said Neighbors and was a Reg fact, I'm like, well, I know where this is going. And did you, Matt? And did you? No, it turns out it took a little left turn there.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Have you done a Neighbys episode? No. I guess, yeah, there would be. Have any of us watched Neighbors? I watched it growing up religiously. I've never watched it. In this country. Late 90s, early 2000s.
Starting point is 00:21:27 In this country, people. I commonly refer to neighbours and home and away characters, and I cannot differentiate between them. They're like, you know, Dr. Carl and Sue or something. They're neighbours. Are they home and away? Are they still on it? Are they like, Tody's friends?
Starting point is 00:21:41 Basically the difference is that her and away, they're blonde. Yeah, they're by the seaside. Right. The ocean. And Dr. Carl's on one? Yeah. Neighbors. Who's the home and away character then?
Starting point is 00:21:53 Chris Hemsworth. Yeah, the Hemsworth. Back in the day. Kim. That's right. Crash on him them. Have it crush on him. What a bad?
Starting point is 00:22:00 Stain the Flaming Crows. He's home and away. Yes, and there's Elf on one and there's another angry old man on the other. Harold. Harold. No, he was the jolly old man. The angry arm was Lou Carpenter. I'm thinking of Harold.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Get out of my pub. I'm Lou Carpenter. When we were in Thailand for the podcast festival this year, was it? Or last whenever it was, we went to the Elephant Sanctuary. Did you come with me? I can't remember. Dave went on anything. It was in June.
Starting point is 00:22:30 You didn't leave your room much. You were there with me? Yeah, I went with you. And then there was a video beforehand telling us about the park. And it was Lou Carpenter. What? I remember you telling me, this is one of the classic situations I had to pretend to know. You went, oh, look, it's bloody Lou from home and away and all neighbours.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And I have to be like, yeah. Yeah, you know him. Wow. That's a fun fact. That's a gap in your knowledge. And mine too, but unless I know some characters. Anyway, we've derailed, but she's turned up with a new man who I think, from memory of hearing this story, is a nice man.
Starting point is 00:23:05 He is. Yes. Good on you, Dorothy. Jimmy describes him as an angel in his life. Aw. Which is really lovely. Nearly all of the swan siblings seem to love Redge, and the calming effect that his regular routine life brought to them was visible across the board.
Starting point is 00:23:23 There's something to be said about, you know, just a... like a boring dad. Yeah. Apparently, the stability was really good for their emotional state. Yeah. Funny that.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Funny that. And with that, they knew every day that Red would go to work. They knew that he would come home each evening. They knew that he would have his wages and that dinner would be on the table
Starting point is 00:23:45 every night at six. Was it catch it? With potatoes. Yeah. Because they were no fancies. Gormant. Jimmy eventually started calling Reg Dad and later
Starting point is 00:23:57 changed his surname to Barnes in honour of Redd. That's nice. That's pretty cute Hey. That's really good. I'd love to see the first time he called Reg Dad. I reckon Reg would have stoically sort of held back the tear but one would have rolled down his cheek. And he just pat him on the shoulder. Yeah, he calls him son. Apparently Reg just called everyone Love so he'd be like
Starting point is 00:24:17 alright love. Of course he did. Can you imagine like this little tiny little Jimmy Barnes who's just been like watching his dad beat his mum up for like and now he's got some old bloke just being like, all right, love. Yeah, that would be so nice. It's funny too, because if you grow up with a, because I was 100% my dad,
Starting point is 00:24:34 like always had good jobs, we were fine. But you're always kind of like, oh, dad's boring. It's like coming from that, coming from abusive, that dad is dream dad. Yep. No emotional scarring here.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Oh, dad's home and he's the same as he always is. Thanks, dad. While all of that was happening, They eventually moved in with Dorothy and Reg, and it would be another 14 years until they saw their biological father again. Wow. Jimmy's teenage...
Starting point is 00:25:04 Just ran into him. It came up. Actually... Oh, I was Target. Big W. No, I don't actually think I put this in the report, but it's long after Jimmy's been a bit famous for a while, and he's at a pub in Sydney, I think.
Starting point is 00:25:20 And some bouncer comes to him and says, there's some bloke on the other end of the bar asking for you, says he's related and Jimmy's like who fuck's gonna who fuck is it yeah um and he goes over and he like spots him from afar he's like fuck that's that's my dad wow and they have a brief chat and then he gets his dad eventually asks him for money of course and and Jimmy told he's just fucking heartbroken because he's like he thought he was coming back to say hello he said he's like in the back of his mind he thought that that was going to be it but he's like nah no no not this time dad's
Starting point is 00:25:50 nice yeah he's come to say hi he's come to you know be back and you don't want to be proven right on that. Yeah. And then, yeah, eventually. And he's just like, no, fuck off. That sucks. Sorry, mate, but see ya. So that's pretty depressive as well. Yeah. But we've got Reg. We got Reg. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, Red. Kind of did him a favour a bit and went away and let Reg. Yeah, big time. Be it actual father for him. Be your dad. So Jimmy's teenage years were mostly spent either fighting, drinking or sleeping around. He describes the Elizabeth boys that he hung around with as some of the toughest blokes he'd ever meet. They used to drive around town looking for a fight and it was on one of these nights that Jimmy ended up singing in a proper band for the
Starting point is 00:26:28 first time. He and his mate had driven past the local disco looking for trouble and decided to head in and check out the girls. The band that was meant to be playing that night was asking around for someone to help him out because their singer was sick. Jimmy had had enough beers to get up and ended up performing. That's his first gig. They know the songs?
Starting point is 00:26:50 I'll have a cry. I think it was covers for the most part, but ended up performing so well. well that the band, later known as Tarkas, decided to keep him on. During this time, he also briefly sang in a band Fraternity, replacing Bon Scott, who would later go on to find fame with a little band you might know as ACDC. I've heard of them. I've heard of. Had a couple of hits in the last 60 years.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I think he even, I think Bon Scott left fraternity to join ACDC, leaving that spot vacant and then Jimmy Barnes took it. So two of the most iconic Australian rock singers. Whoa. Shared the same spot in a band that not that many people would. Yeah, and fraternity fucked up and let them both go. Idiots. And where are they now?
Starting point is 00:27:32 I don't know. Never heard of them until now. Probably accountants. Yeah, you digheads. Yeah, probably... Being regular dads. Yeah. Probably bringing home steady paycheck and support your family. Being real nice.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Idiots. Probably helping your kids with their homework, you nerds. You idiots. Probably got a really good open dialogue with all your kids. They feel like they can talk to you about anything. Ha ha, losers. During this period in Tarkas and or fraternity, I can't quite remember which one. Tarkas is bad.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I'm pretty sure that there is a laptop, a generic laptop brand, laptop charger brand called Tarkas. Which I only know because I work in a retail store that stocks. That sounds like, that suits it though. Like for a laptop charger. Generic laptop brand. I got the Tarkus laptop charger. I'm going to go see Tarkas round at the corner.
Starting point is 00:28:30 You know? Along with Tarko. Jimmy was approached by a rowdy one night who asked him if he wanted to be a singer in a new band called Orange since his older brother John, later known as Swanee, had turned them down. This new band had got on to Jimmy through Swanee who had played with the piano player
Starting point is 00:28:48 whose name was Don Walker. Also, do you know any of Swannie? Swanee's big hits because I was listening to his top five on Spotify. I couldn't, I've never heard them. No, I don't know. And he was apparently huge and a really well-known singer. Like I've heard of Swanie, but. Oh, mate, John Swan, but not a single song.
Starting point is 00:29:06 No, no, I don't, yeah, it doesn't have the longevity that Barnes, his younger brother did. Doesn't ring a bell. Yeah. So he rocked up to the audition, which happened to be at a women's liberation center and he started shitting himself because he's like, I'm not a fucking feminist. I don't know what that is. What if all these blokes are? I don't know what to talk about.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Jimmy describes his first impression of the band. The first guy I saw had thick curly hair that stuck out like an afro, bushy eyes and a big mouth. Ian Moss was a young guitarist from Alice Springs. Oh, Mossy. He didn't wear shoes and didn't talk. Les... Let his guitar do the talking.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Yeah, he did. He's in the meeting. Oh, hi, I'm Jimmy Barnes. Nice to meet you, Ian. And that's how they knew. Also let his guitar do the... walking. He wears him
Starting point is 00:29:53 his shoes. He goes through a lot of guitars. It's actually really wasteful. Just get this man a pair of shoes. Ian, for fuck sake! That's my guitar! They had
Starting point is 00:30:07 Les Kajmerek, yep, who was a young... You sort of faded out there a bit on that one. Oh, no, we're not editing. It's fine,
Starting point is 00:30:15 everyone. The mic just faded, don't worry about it. A young Polish bass player with long, light brown hair and a pretty face. And Don Walker was a a bearded university student who looked too intelligent to play rock.
Starting point is 00:30:27 He's wearing a bow tie. Too intelligent to play rock. And he was like real suss on him because he's like, this bloke looks too clean cut. He must be up to something. He's probably an undercover cop. He's a knock. He's a knack, man. No, we're just recording the songs.
Starting point is 00:30:42 What's that mic there for? This is a studio. This is how we put out albums. No. I'm not. I want to you, thark. I'm not to buy it, you pig. No.
Starting point is 00:30:52 He also mentions that there was a fourth person there who happened to be the drummer who left soon afterwards, but he also can't remember his name. Oh, really? This guy was just so irrelevant that he's like, oh my God. He's writing this decades later and they still don't know who the original drummer was. Yeah, can't he ask? He still tours with the other guy. Yep.
Starting point is 00:31:10 And don't remember the name of that drummer? Nah. Just text Mossie. Mossie, remember? He writes back. He writes back, bing-blu-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-h. He writes back the fourth finger on the third thread. Thread.
Starting point is 00:31:23 That's how he talks about his guitar. Every Fred is a threat. Emojis really changed the game for him, though. He just sends back three guitars, and Bansy's like, ah, thank you. His name was Greg. So, after a short while later and some successful shows around Adelaide, Don announced that he was going to go back to uni in Sydney to finish his master's degree.
Starting point is 00:31:47 The band, too intelligent. Too intelligent. But it's a master's. The masses in narcking. What is narc actually short for? Narcolepsy. They're really sleepy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Makes all the sense now. Narcotics, I think. Yeah. Just people doble on each other for having. Yeah. I don't know where it comes from. We're not narcs, if that's what you're suggesting. Why would we even know what that means?
Starting point is 00:32:13 What's the stuff on your head there, mate? What are you talking into? Is that a wild? No. No, no, I'll just having a casual conversation. No, no. No problem's here. Noxia.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Anyway, can I buy some illegal drugs from you? Do you have one ecstasy, please? Yeah, I'll take one if you got one. Yeah, or maybe even a traffical amount. I did not have a traffical amount. Yeah, can I have 15 to 25 years in prison worth? I mean, oh no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:32:47 So the band decide that they had something good guys. going and decided to follow him. This is orange. Orange. Well, a band that we all know and love, orange. That's the best band. It was named after the color, the fruit or the town. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Oh, or the state of mind. Oh, yeah, it's the fourth off. Or the flavor. Oh. Oh, hang on. It's the best name I've heard so far. Orange. Tarkas.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Yeah, Tarkas sucks. Orange is better than Tarkas. Tarkas, sarcus. Oh, it's so bad. Good one. Sarkis is better. Yeah. I would prefer to listen to Sarkas.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Sarkas. Yeah, Tarkas is no good. I've been embarrassed to tell people I'm going to see Tarkas live. I've just got the new Tarkas out. Even like, hi guys, we're Tarkas. Anyway, thanks for coming out. This is a new song. That's the first and only time we'll say our name.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Anyway, so they all go back to Sydney. They all went to Sydney. This was in 1974, and overtime, Phil Small and Steve Preswitch would join the band as bassist and drummer. and not long after that they changed their name to cold chisel. Where is Steve Prest was from? Liverpool. And Big Phil Small. Big Phil Small from Adelaide.
Starting point is 00:34:02 From, was he? He's a real clean-cut Adelaide boy. Adelaidean. Is what they called? A hair, never out of place. Jimmy Barnes described it. Say it like that? I'm going to listen to it.
Starting point is 00:34:13 It sounds great. Oh yeah, I've listened to the audio book, Jess. Have I mentioned that all the time recently? I actually listen to books, so keep reading your nose. Jimmy's quite good on the books, isn't he? Oh, yeah. Does some accents. He goes all in.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Does some sound effects. Are you going to talk about the time he was on Countdown? No, I wasn't. But we can bring it up later if you want. Maybe if it goes that way, then maybe I could maybe play. I don't know. Anyway, Carl Chisel was on Countdown one time. Oh, wow. Funny you mentioned that.
Starting point is 00:34:51 So Countdown, big Australian show, hosted by Ian Molly Maldrum. Geez, people were named Ian back in the day, were they? A lot of Ian. Oh, yeah. That's not cute. I'm like, there's no Ian's anymore. What happened to Ian's? Can you imagine a baby called Ian?
Starting point is 00:35:07 That's what's happened to Ian's. Little Baba Ian. Oh, did Ian shit himself? I reckon Ian would shit themselves. So Barnsie was... It was recounting the time they were on Countdown, which there was a bit of a hullabaloo. They made a big scene. They smashed up the stage and stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:26 But to talk about it at the start of his chapter, he sings the countdown theme, which is like a drum fill. Chapter 12. Do yourself a favour. Countdown, 1978, 79. He really just a little Diggaddy-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-cgat-d-d-d-c-c-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-dig-d-d-d-d-dig-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d. He really just loses it's a professional singer. Yeah, obviously, it's the worst thing ever.
Starting point is 00:35:59 It's the best thing ever. He starts so strong, though, and he just... It just melts down. And he sounds really breathless. You're saying four words, Jimmy. Come on. Come on. Put yourself together.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Even that's flat. Yeah. Anyway. Diggida-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-c. Matt, can you make that your ringtone? I wish. I wish I could. I need someone in IT to help me.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah, hang on. Just let me have a look at that. Have you tried turning it off again? Excuse me. Cold Chisel quickly developed a strong presence on the local music scene. So they've changed their name? Yeah. Yeah, I mentioned that.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Cool. Well, actually, I have already mentioned that once before. Actually, I just said that. Yes, they're cold chisel now. They are cold chisel now. Do you say or do you know where that name comes from? Because I've been thinking about what, you know, obviously any band name. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:53 But no matter how ridiculous it is, the more you hear it, it just becomes, it doesn't, you don't think about that anymore. But a cold chisel. Yeah. I mean, it's no tarkas. It is no tarkas. They obviously didn't think about it quite. What does it mean? It is a chisel made of tool.
Starting point is 00:37:09 steel of a strength, shape and temper suitable for chipping our cutting cold metal. Okay. So an obvious choice for the band that was once known as long. They were influenced by metal, like 70s metal. So maybe it's come off from there somewhere. I don't know if they actually go into it at any point. I've not been able to find exactly, like a quote from any of them being like, this is why.
Starting point is 00:37:34 It's just, right. Anyway, so we changed our name. Here's no context. Quite a lot of the time, though, like. Yeah, even if you do hear the story of where a band name came from, it's not always interesting. No, no. You're just throwing words around and then you go, yeah, that sounds good.
Starting point is 00:37:49 It's not a particularly interesting story for an interview 20 years later. Like word association, Matt, first word comes your head now. Cold. Jess? Impanana! Umpanana, I heard. Cold empanada. Did you just scat?
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah. Cold scat. That's our band. It's not bad. Chili scat. Jelly Scat That's probably top two band names I've heard on this episode so far
Starting point is 00:38:14 Chili Scat All right Dave First thing on your mind Go Trinkets Hello I pointed at Matt And he said hello
Starting point is 00:38:24 There's a comma there Trinkets comma Hello What about hello trinkets Oh hello trinkets Oh hello trinkets That's cute Exclamation mark after hello
Starting point is 00:38:34 Dave Just like all your other bands I guess we'll be a scar band Yeah Yeah I'll be the sing up. I think that's a cat.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Um, actually. Anyway, so sorry, Sam. Do go on. So now they're cold. They're chisling away. They're in Sydney. They're developing a strong presence in the music scene due to their hard and fast playing in Jimmy's wild stage presence.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Unfortunately, his relationship with the band was often volatile and he left several times, leaving our best mate maple syrup moss to handle vocal duties I love that idea that he's like that's it I'm leaving several times
Starting point is 00:39:16 Jimmy you're already out you don't have to he comes back guys I'm leaving again yeah mate we've moved on well for that comment I'm fucking
Starting point is 00:39:24 I'm out I love a storm out I love them I love multiples yeah yeah you're not quite finished so you slam the door and you're like
Starting point is 00:39:32 fuck I got it I got another good on and while I'm maddens bang And another thing. Well, he comes back in like all in a half and he comes in and he starts, they've already moved on and Ian Moss is singing. And he's like, oh, fuck. Shit, he's good.
Starting point is 00:39:48 He's better than I am. What do I do? How am I going to get back here? So syrupy. Beautiful. Oh, God, what a beautiful. Anyway, Don completed his engineering studies and cold chisel moved to Melbourne in August 1976. Yeah, Melbourne.
Starting point is 00:40:04 And three months later, moved to Sydney. Damn it! But those are a good three months, I reckon. The laneways. The coffee. The nightlife. Do we claim them as a Melbourne band? Yeah, they're a Melbourne band.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Do we claim everything? They're playing whatever we want. Claimed. Yeah. We'll claim whatever we want, Dave. They're out. Mine, mine, mine. Just pointing it to stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I just putting it at your drink bottle. So if you touch that again with your grotty little mouth, it'll go thirsty, boy. Wild. Progress was slow and Barnes announced he was leaving once again. Progress is too slow. It seems to happen a lot actually throughout their career. They're like, oh, it didn't work the first time.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Fuck it, we're giving up. This is shit. Quit. Done. I'm like that. If you never try, you never fail. Exactly. If I don't let people in, they can't leave me.
Starting point is 00:41:04 So he left to go join his brother, Swanee in a band called Feather. However, his farewell performance with cold chisel went so well that he changed his mind and decided to stay in the band and a month later they signed to W-E-A. That's embarrassing though to everyone that's come out
Starting point is 00:41:19 to your last gig. Yeah. How do you feel about the name feather? I don't mind feather. Okay. Well, it's better than orange and it's better than Tarkas. All right, we definitely agree it's better than Tarkas.
Starting point is 00:41:31 I don't think it's better than orange. I like feather better. I think they're all bottom five. It's a better looking word visually. It rhymes with more things. Feather. Feather. Feather.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Mether? Pleather. Pleather. Pleather. Pleather. Yeah. It's one he's like, all right, we all right, we all wear pleather because we're under with feather. But he's like, I think I'm going to stay in college.
Starting point is 00:41:54 And go back to my leather. My understanding of rhyming is just changing the first letter. Feather. Leather. It rhymes. It's a match. What rhymes with trinkets, hello? Blinkets, blelo!
Starting point is 00:42:13 She's done it again. The master of the rhyme. Are you good? Yeah. Blinkets. Blinkets. Blengetts. Blenellow. Blinkets, Blinkets, 182.
Starting point is 00:42:27 That's how they came up with it. Jess actually gave them their names. Yeah, they called me. They said, Jess, we need you. It needs to rhyme with trinkets. Hello. I said, let me go into my dark space. I switch half my brain off like an ibis.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Do ibises do that? I think so. I think it's them or it's some bird that flies long distances. Is that like autopilot? They sort of, yeah, they shut half of their brain off. And sort of have a sleep and then turn the other half. I've been doing that for the last month, I reckon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:58 So their first album was self-titled and included the track that would become one of their most iconic Australian. Most iconic Australian songs of all. time K San. Wow, on their first album. It's like what, second track or third track or something? Yeah, and first single. Yeah. I didn't even realize that that was like that early for them.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Wow. Neither did we. Yeah. That is, you chucked that on at the end of the night at a party or a pub or something. People sing. Goes off. Yeah. Loudly and proudly.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Yeah. Yeah. Arms around strangers. Yep. No one's even mad about it. Yep. So by 1980, Cold Chisel was the biggest band in Australia and Barnes had developed a notorious reputation as a hard drinking wild man who drank more than two bottles of vodka a day,
Starting point is 00:43:42 much of it on stage during performances. So you're like, watch any of the old clips of them live and he's usually swigging a smyrn off. Like just a flower out. Not even a good vodka. I don't drink that much of water a day. Two bottles. I should. I saw an interview with Don Walker and it was telling a story when they were in,
Starting point is 00:44:00 I was a country town in New South Wales. I can't remember Aubrey or something like that. It might have been orange, actually. And someone in the crowd, a young guy goes, that's water. You're not drinking real vodka. And he grabbed the bottle and swigged it, quite a bit of it, and fell to the ground. Instantly getting blackout drunk. And apparently his mates dragging him around to after parties after the show.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Like they're sort of, their living trophy. Yeah, this is the guy who's Barzies vodka. Sad mascot. What a weird time. The 70s and the 80s is just, yep, well different. But two bottles a day. Because, spoiler, Barzzi is still alive and he looks like he's in pretty bloody good news. Yeah, but if you start early in the day and just sip it.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yeah. He's not shodding from like eight to nine, you know, yeah. Two bottles in an hour, you're dead. Two bottles over the course of a, you know. You're an alcoholic. Yeah, he's microdosing. He's fine. Man, very alert.
Starting point is 00:45:03 He's got a buzz. Vodka's made out of potatoes. Full circle. This makes sense. This makes sense. The end. You got a taste for it. Anyone, you've got any cats around here and you know, watch this down with something?
Starting point is 00:45:17 I hope by now he's at least moved on to like a grey goose or something. Like he can afford good vodka. I think it's pink Dom Perriong champagne. Oh. Talks about that later. What was he drinking like 16 bottles of that a day to get the same amount of alcohol as two vodka bottles? Yeah, that's about that. Yeah, that's about right.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Champagne and vodka, he sort of still does have the taste. The palate of a nine-year-old? Nine-year-old, I drink vodka and don't drink vodka at home. 16-year-old girl, that's sure. They can't afford the dom. They go with the pink. Yeah, or the yellow. But I would have thought that he was on stage
Starting point is 00:45:49 just swinging a bottle of Jim Beam or something. Yeah, well, the Scottish thing you think would be Scotch or... Oh, yeah, true. Not vodka. Yeah, vodka. Just, you know, straight to the old brain hole. So during this period of great success, Jimmy got married and had a family, and he'd never been careful with money,
Starting point is 00:46:10 and the increasing pressure on him to provide for his family caused even more tension between him and the rest of Cold Chisel. Despite being hugely successful in Australia, their group still had not been able to crack the market internationally, including a disastrous tour of the US in 81, which pulled them further apart. Management was mostly to blame with mismatched tour lineups, and their lead single, My Baby, being sent to radio, stations wrapped in a diaper, which was pretty fucking heartbreaking. Why? What a weird choice.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Management. The American manager. So they were in a meeting and the band were all there in America. And apparently, I like how Jimmy tells. He does all the accents in his book. So he's explaining walking through the record label offices. And my feet were going digger-dick-dick-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- And he says, everyone's poking their head out of their office.
Starting point is 00:47:06 zone, hey, cold chisel, love the new single. And he's doing this, America, like, love the single. My baby, hey, love the single. Oh, whoa, God, your chisel's cold. Whoa. So cold out there. And then, but he's like, I think everyone was afraid of us because they'd always clear out it when we were coming through.
Starting point is 00:47:25 And then he said they were in the office, and they looked over the back of the, the guy who was looking after him. And there was their single. My baby wrapped in a nappy or a diaper. and they're like, what's going on there? And the producer goes, oh, you're going to love it. I've sent it to every radio station in the country
Starting point is 00:47:43 wrapped in a diaper. And they're like, that's where shit goes. Oh, you're going to love this. It's full of fake poo. But people won't know it's fake. That'll get their attention. Jimmy's like, cat? Cat.
Starting point is 00:47:58 That's that I can relate to. So you imagine a lot of these DJs are getting the record in a nappy or a diaper and throwing it straight to the bin. It feels like, oh, this is weird. Really? It didn't really take off. Can you buy this on eBay now?
Starting point is 00:48:15 The nappies that came in? Fuck, that'd be interesting. You're doing yourself. Get a nappy. How could you prove it's a real one? How could you prove it's the real one? How could you prove that it was like an original nappy that was wrapped in?
Starting point is 00:48:30 She put some catcher on it. Yeah, you couldn't. The DNA test is catcher. It's legit certainly tastes legit oh no there's a lot of the
Starting point is 00:48:43 audio book as well and probably the actual book I reckon you can't get through a chapter without there being a scenario where something like that happens and Jimmy goes I wanted to smack him there and then
Starting point is 00:48:54 it does come up a lot of that I think in the whole book this is the second book I haven't read this first one which a lot of this stuff is from but I think there's maybe hits one or two people, but there's a lot of him going, I wanted to whack him there and then. He thinks about it a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:10 It does. It's a lot of self-control. He's a beloved guy now in Australia and, like, you know, seems very together. Yeah. Really well liked and respected. Yeah, he was a loose unit. But I mean, yeah, hearing about his childhood, you're like, well, weird that he didn't grow up to be well adjusted straight away. Shocking.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Yeah, true. So, after this period, basically the band. broke up. There's a lot of stress, a lot of money issues. And pretty much straight away, he decided to jump into a solo career. Right. Hey, that's a good point to mention that if you do want to hear more about the cold chisel albums, our podcast, listen now, we went through all of them.
Starting point is 00:49:52 You really skipped over them. I was waiting to go, oh, yeah, let's go through them track by track. But we already did that already. If only there was a different podcast. Oh, wait, hang on, there is. Listen now. Pause this Listen to all the episodes up until this point
Starting point is 00:50:07 So you understand you're the full picture Yeah And Jess and I were on a recent or upcoming episode It'd be on, yeah, I think it should be next week Hey exciting That was a good time That was a good time I had a fine
Starting point is 00:50:19 It was okay It was okay I guess Let me politely speak for us It was a good time So their final Their farewell tour The Last Stand became the highest grossing concert series by an Australian band ever.
Starting point is 00:50:37 And it was announced as a, this is a farewell to a. Yeah. They gave their final performance in Sydney on the 12th of December 83, about 10 years after the original formation. Wow. And only about five years after the first album came out. Yeah. So five studio albums.
Starting point is 00:50:54 It's one of those ones. You don't realize how short their actual. It's like the Beatles. Yeah. Totally. So much variation in Sam. And all in such a short period of time. They,
Starting point is 00:51:05 um, part of the reason why they broke up, apparently according to Jimmy's book, was they were getting paid through, like their biggest band in Australia selling out state, or at least arenas. Yeah. And multiple nights at certain arenas.
Starting point is 00:51:19 And they were getting paid 25 bucks a week each. Yeah. Like, fuck all. No. And apparently he'd come into meetings and be like, hey, let's talk money.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I need more money. We're a big band. Where is it? Where is our money? Where is the money? And the manager was like, we've invested it. Apparently one of the investments was in like a pyramid scheme that went under. They just lost one in a housing development and they lost money in Sydney property.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Like one of the only times that that would have happened. Wow. And the rest of the band whenever, the way Jimmy tells it, I imagine the other members probably remember it differently. But Jimmy goes, come on, we'll pay us more. And the manager would be like, hey, I mean, we've invested it elsewhere. If you want more money, it's got to be even through the whole band. And the rest of the band are like, oh, we're happy with what we've got. Apparently, Steve Presser, you'll be like, what do I need with fucking money?
Starting point is 00:52:13 I got everything I need. That was Liverpool, if anyone was wondering. No, you should be getting paid well. At least $30. At least some of the stories where it ends with him wanting to knock a few people's blocks off. Shockingly, yes. So pretty much, yeah, less than a month after Cold Chisels last in. tour ended. He formed his own band, which they pretty much began touring and writing for a
Starting point is 00:52:39 solo album straight away. They signed two mushroom records and Jimmy released his first solo album, Body Swerve. He was now billing himself as Jimmy Barnes instead of merely Jim Barnes as he had been credited. I did not realize that. I don't realize that either. Until researching for this report. Do you know that one of the members of his band that he put together was from Feather? or fraternity. Fraternity. Damn it. Really?
Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah. Thought I had a real hot fact there. The bass player. Plays the fish. Sorry. That's good stuff. Actually, that is wordplay, and I really enjoy it. You're welcome then.
Starting point is 00:53:21 That's funny stuff. Is that a homonym or a homoenom. Homonom. Homonomomomomom. Homonumum. Humonumum. Tugga-digga-dick-dic-dha. I think I do it better than him
Starting point is 00:53:34 I agree but that makes it worse than him yeah if he did it like that I would never have played it to you a million times when we're in Perth it was in Perth there was a blue
Starting point is 00:53:46 Bluetooth speaker in the lounge room so at random times I'd play it from my bedroom digger doda diga we'd all laugh every time so funny So the album was immediately successful. He entered the Australian charts at number one on the 8th of October.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Wow. It was the first of a remarkable run of top charting albums as each of his first six solo albums debuted in the number one position. Whoa. That's a hot stop. A feat that I think no other Australian, no other Australian nudist school. No, sad, like you said it, Australian. No other Australian artist is damn. It's just fucking habit.
Starting point is 00:54:28 No bloody right, too, right. And the first album, Body Swir, when that came out, didn't it come out the same year as Colchizzle's last album? It was definitely within 12 months, yeah. Yeah. And it was a low-key, like, fuck you guess. It was almost like he was anxious to not leave it. He just wanted to make it happen. Yeah, didn't want the time to stop and think because that's when the demons would set in.
Starting point is 00:54:50 So, yeah, pretty much no other Australian musical artist has achieved that since. embarrassingly though I don't think off the top of my head I can name a Jimmy Barnes song Working Class Man okay yep there you go it usually follows K San on a night out Yeah you're right Horses and you're the voice yeah they're the big three which one does Arnsie sing He paints that's a great painter amazing painter That would that be his biggest what would you I mean I'm trying to think Is he had Jimmy Barnes on his show I think so
Starting point is 00:55:25 A brush with Arne is that what he's? is. Yeah, yes. Brush with fame. I think he has had Barnsey on. So what we're referencing there is an Uber Eats ad. That stars... Yeah, we were talking about that in the other podcast.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Yeah, that stars Jimmy Barnes, okay, Barnsey. Another famous Aussie singer, like extremely famous, John Farnham, aka Farnsey. And then on drums as a joke, they have the comedian slash artist Arndo, aka Anzie. It's a good genius. It's a good Uber Eats.
Starting point is 00:55:56 It is very funny. Whoever writes those ads is doing good stuff. Yeah. Good on them. They're doing God's work. I'm happy about it. Yeah, they should get a loggie. Yeah, of course, working class man.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah, of course. That was, yep, an oversight. But yeah, I just sort of mean like, I'm surprised. Although this was still, when's this? The 80s? Yeah. I'm still not alive yet. I'm not going to beat myself up too much.
Starting point is 00:56:18 And where does working class man slot into this? Is that an early hit? Second, second album. Fuck me. He's so good, so quick. He does. Yeah. He does it well.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Yeah. But he didn't write that song, did he? He did not. Do you know who wrote it? Someone from one of those bands like Chicago. Don't stop. Boston? Almost.
Starting point is 00:56:39 What's their other song? They're more than a feeling. Journey. What's Journey's other song? We sang it on? Journey. They're real fun to sing along to, but I can't remember what their other song is. Oh, it's really good too.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Fuck, I can't remember it either. It's people who are screaming at their devices right now. We'll outro the episode singing it, I promise. You'll forget. Yep, absolutely. So he, the list of number one albums now totals 11, which includes three cold chisel albums.
Starting point is 00:57:11 In the final, I don't know why it's gone back to cold chisel. I've clearly not done this very well. Anyway, early on in his solo career, Barnes was determined to, oh my goodness, determined to break into the US market. And signed to Geffen, records for the release there. His second album for the working class man.
Starting point is 00:57:31 That makes sense. Was tailored in this direction with some remix songs from Bodieswerve plus five new tracks, including working class man that was written by Journey musician Jonathan Kane. And would become Barnes's signature tune. Several US musicians worked on the album,
Starting point is 00:57:47 including Charlie Sexton, Kim Kahn's, Kans, and British drummer, Mick Fleetwood of Fleetwood Mac. What? He worked on the album. Apparently, yeah. I had no idea. That's so cool.
Starting point is 00:57:59 The album was released as a double vinyl set and shifted to 150,000 copies in 12 months in Australia, debuted at number one, remained at number one for seven weeks. It was simply titled Jimmy Barnes in the US and was issued in February to tie in with the release of the Ron Howard film, Gung Ho, which featured working class man. I think the movie flopped, though, apparently it's a piece of shape. Damn. Yeah, it feels like if that movie was big. that could have been the big break.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Unfortunately. And just for overseas listeners, so 250,000 units is huge in Australia. Just to go platinum in the US, you have to sell a million copies. But in Australia, it's only 70,000. Yeah. About much smaller population. So 250, that's huge. In the 80s, well, our population would have been under 20 million, right?
Starting point is 00:58:44 Yeah, very small comparatively. That's a chunk. It's a fair, is that more than 1%. More than 0.1%. More than 0.01%. Yeah, all of those are true. Yeah, I just wanted to get it. give you a few others.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Pick your favourite. In 1986, Barnes recorded two songs with In Excess, including an Easy Beats cover, Good Times, and Easy Beets had George Young be older brother of Malcolm and Angus of ACD. So the music scene in Australia was quite small, apparently. Where would we be without just a few families? Yeah. Honestly. The young family is so important on an Aussie rock history.
Starting point is 00:59:25 And the Minogues. Let's not forget the Minot. Eagle Top. Carly from Neighbors. Yes. And Danny from, I don't know. Young time. She's got a target line.
Starting point is 00:59:37 The Mask singer. For Petit women. Really? Yes. Finally they'll look for up. Yes. Called Danny Monogue Petit. Oh.
Starting point is 00:59:45 That's apt. So he, with the Good Times cover, they toured, he toured with in excess across 86 and 87. Wow. The tour was called Australian Made and was the largest touring festival of Australian music talent that had ever been attempted to that point. Wow, because Inexists were huge.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Wait for the lineup though. Barnes and In Excess headlined. The rest of the lineup featured mental as anything, the divinels, the models, the saints and the Triffids. That's a sick one. What's a the? What's a the band? Apparently was a thing back in the day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:24 In the day. That is a big, that's a big. That's a big line up. Isn't that wild? Yeah. It was probably costing only like two friggin dollars or something. And everyone's like, oh, I don't know if I can afford it. Mate.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Yeah. Two dollar he do's. Get it up, y'all. I love our language. Where else we got in here? Anyway, so Good Times peaked at number two on the Australian chart and was featured in a movie called The Lost Boys later on as well. Do you know that film?
Starting point is 01:00:51 No. It's a vampire film with Kiefer Sutherland. Oh, Kiefer. Yeah, and maybe in some other parts wrong the day. I feel like someone else. Yeah, one of the... One of the... One of the...
Starting point is 01:01:01 One of the... One of the... What's the one? There's two of them. They named the same name. Lisa calls... Lisa calls the number and just listens to... Oh, Corey.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Yeah, Corey Feldman. One of the Corys in it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, thank you for getting that reference. Corey. Story. Here are some words that rhyme with Corey. Marta sorry.
Starting point is 01:01:19 That's Jess's sex line on. I hope you and I can get married someday. Maybe even both Corey. around it. Let me look it up. I have a funny feeling that both the core, I can't remember. Yeah, Corey Hame was also on it and Corey Feldman. Wow. The two Corrie. Thanks, the two Corries. The two Corys. And Diane West was in it as well.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Really? Playing the mum, I think. The mum. It's a good band name. The mum. The moms. They're all in comfortable jeans. And sensible flats. This show ends at 9pm. Got to bed. Brush your teeth before you leave, please.
Starting point is 01:02:03 So Good Times was the first in a long line of songs that Barnes would record with other well-known singers and artists, including when something is wrong with my baby with John Farnham and Simply the Best with Tina Turner. Simply the best. Dun, do, do. Ben and Miss. Jimmy, when did you get me?
Starting point is 01:02:27 Some gravelly tones. Tina Turner's pretty cool to collaborate with. Yeah, that was badass, hey. He was a big fan of hers growing up, apparently, I think. And, yeah, that ended up being the rugby NRLs theme. Really? So that was there. So they were in all the promos and stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:46 And I think maybe sang it at the grand final or something like that. Of course. Peaked at number 13 in Australia as well. It should have been higher. Yeah, should have been way high. Should have been higher. Watch the film. Those two are having a great time to be in the studio.
Starting point is 01:02:59 A bit of mucking about. Were they? Were they? A bit of a muck about, were they? A couple of Lericans. Oh, yeah. Love it. So, that is after his first album, I think.
Starting point is 01:03:09 And then, oh no, the second album. So then the third album, Freight Train Heart, released in 1987. Oh, yeah. Truck and wheels. Driving wheels. Driving wheels. Oh, banger. Featured a whole bunch.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Bound. Bown. Bows that. You play your C-tar then? Bows. Yeah, it was through his Ravi Shankar, so yeah, Jimmy actually went, he went over and drank a lot of vodka in India, and he was influenced. And that's how the third freight train hard came about.
Starting point is 01:03:40 It also featured a CETA. Featured, Hughie Lewis, a few more members of Journey, former Rod Stewart drummer. And the recording process was deeply problematic. A lot of racists. So racist. Unfortunately. Can you just play the drums there, mate?
Starting point is 01:04:06 I don't need to hear your opinions. No, stop ranking races. Oh, fucking hell. Digga-da-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- thank you. No, we don't want to hear your countdown. It's very offensive. Very offensive. But basically, he hated the recording.
Starting point is 01:04:25 him and Jonathan Kane, who helped write working class man, just fought the whole time. In the end, he claimed the Masters back, returned to Sydney and finished the recording with English producer Mike Stone. That sounds like some legendary musicians he's working with, and he's like, nah. He does sound like...
Starting point is 01:04:41 He's ready to smack him. Yeah, and often it ends up, it just sounds like he... He's almost self-sabotaging sometimes. He doesn't do a lot of diplomacy. No. So this is his chance for the big break. He's got all these American things lined up, all these great people involved and he's like,
Starting point is 01:04:56 nah, this isn't what I want. I'm going home. I'll get someone else to finish it off. They still put it out, didn't they? They did. And it did well. It went to number one in Australia. I don't think it did particularly well in...
Starting point is 01:05:08 I think it made it the top 107. I think you were right, actually. That's what you want. Yeah. So, remixed a lot of the songs with some of the members from the Angels and Johnny Diesel, the 20-year-old guitarist and frontman of Perth band, Johnny Diesel and the Injectors.
Starting point is 01:05:28 What do they get their name? I don't know. It doesn't say. Well, that's the weird thing about them is the band is called Johnny Diesel and the Injectors. His name's Mark Lazot. And so afterwards, when he tried to go solo, he's like, I'm not actually Johnny De-
Starting point is 01:05:44 that's like, it's not a real thing. That's just a name for the band. Make name guys. But he's still known as Diesel because he just couldn't escape it. So he's still known as Johnny Diesel. or Diesel. He tried to go as Mark Lazotte for a while and it just wouldn't stick.
Starting point is 01:05:56 People like... And he was like, who? Who? Who? Oh, you mean Johnny Diesel? It's not a real thing. Yeah, I definitely know of Diesel. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:06 And it's just one of those names you accept, but now thinking about it, it's like, that's silly. Diesel. Oh, mate, Diesel. I was right on the tip of my tongue. It's one of his hits. Oh. He looks incredibly young now still. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:21 He's not aged. He's a real sort of Keanu Reeves or a Paul Rudd type. Oh my God, Paul Rudd. He's one better. Clueless Paul Rudd's like, you're cute, whatever. Ant-Man Paul Rudd.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Woof! Yeah, I'm with you. And that's a compliment from Jess. Yeah, woof at you. Some men cat call. Perkins woofs. You're claiming it back. Woof!
Starting point is 01:06:54 That's what I'll start doing. I never get cackle. It's not going to be a problem. That's what I'll start doing. No one cack calls me. There was a Carlton footballer in the 90s called Ange Christo, and whenever he kicked it, the whole crowd would say, whoof.
Starting point is 01:07:08 That's fun. Because he kicked it far. That's really fun. And you just imagine that was probably started by like a group of like 10 people. Yeah, yeah. The stadiums start doing it. Woof. Woof.
Starting point is 01:07:18 I love that. I love the idea of people coming in for the first. him of football and that's just been one of those things like, the fuck is going on him. It's already confusing enough. He's in front of the goal square. He's got to kick a goal to win the match. It's after the sire.
Starting point is 01:07:32 And here we go. He knows everyone's going to say, whoop. He just couldn't concentrate. So that album, with all of the Australian powerhouses on it, went to number one. As recently as 2003 was named as one of the top 100 rock albums of
Starting point is 01:07:51 all time by a British magazine. Wow. Which I found interesting because I don't think it actually did that well over there. It's a grow another shower. Yeah. So the, in Australia, Barnes's success remained virtually unmatched. The number one success of his first three albums continued with the live album, Barnstorming. So good.
Starting point is 01:08:15 So good. It's fucking, I actually brought it here. I'll put a picture of it up later on your socials. Yes. Give you the code. Yes. Or whatever they call those things. He also released Sam.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Do you want to give you a discount code? I'm winking at it. Why don't you get it? Touching my nose. Right. Social media. Our password is nose. Now we're going to change it.
Starting point is 01:08:41 He did a cover of When a Man Loves a Woman, which was the number three hit. He's next to a broad controversy by being underwritten by Pepsi, which allowed him to expand the production. increase promotion. Huh. And to make up for it at the end, he donated $25,000 to the Children's Hospital in Sydney. I think they're like an anti-pepsy charity to Coca-Cola.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I don't know, yeah, I don't know why that was a whole thing. Did people just feel like he was selling out or something? Probably. Do they not understand how businesses work? You kind of need to make money. Did he change the lyrics to, Well, what's a Pepsi class man? Is that their problem?
Starting point is 01:09:17 That might have been the problem. Yeah, actually, now that you mentioned. Stop drinking about Pepsi. He's no longer. drinking vodka, it's just Pepsi. Behind those Pepsi weeds. Yeah, that's the Uber Eats thing at the moment's going to make those people feel good. If they're all furious about Pepsi, why do you see Farmy and Barthi?
Starting point is 01:09:34 People are over that stuff now. People are like, oh, cool, Barnsey's in an ad. Yeah. Rebel Wilson's in an ad for Uber Eats. This is cool again. You don't hate people for selling it anymore. I love it. I praise them.
Starting point is 01:09:47 What Uber Eats do is they don't pay their workers. They pay. Celebrities. Allegedly. Alleged celebrities. They pay them workers. They just poorly pay them. So basically the 90s weren't particularly interesting.
Starting point is 01:10:03 He released a couple of numbers. Learned to walk. Just doing my thing. Released a few albums that went to number one, but don't really have any songs on them now that are well known. I love that idea. Yeah, I had a few more number one albums anyway, blah, blah, blah. Nothing great.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Whatever. Yada yada. I need a new challenge. But one of them that I will mention is lay down your guns, which is an absolute banger, and he re-released it later with Living End, which is even more of a banger. It's got great lyrics like, oh, the lion and the cheating when we ought to be loving and... What is it? Squeeding.
Starting point is 01:10:46 That's probably it, yeah. I'll come back to fix this theory later. No, Sweden. He said, all the line and the cheater when we ought to be loving in Sweden. It was great. It makes as much sense as whatever I said. Is that Sweden or Sweden? When we ought to be loving in Sweden.
Starting point is 01:11:05 That is honestly, that makes more sense than anything you've said in your life. It's like a puzzle piece coming together. Sure. Shots fire. His 1993 album Heat was influenced by then-current grunge trend and the music of red hot chili peppers. Really? Go to a wee, give it a wee now. Okay, Bunty.
Starting point is 01:11:24 You gotta hear this. Which is kind of weird, hey, because it's like, he's just done a, he did a couple of soul albums around the 90s as well, where he was just doing covers, but then he was also trying to return to his hard rock. Then the spice girls got big, and he's like, all right, I'm forming an old girl group. Girl power, am I right, girls?
Starting point is 01:11:41 Alcoholic spice, where are you? Mark Spice. And then later on, Oh, Heat actually peaked at number two, so it broke his number one streak. But it did feature a song by former cold chisel bandmate Don Walker, Don Walker. Also, that was when they started sort of healing there. Yeah, so it was a really significant moment because they had kind of started patching up the old, uh... Friendship.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Friendship, thank you. I was going to go on with... I didn't even know. It's very late at night. Oh, yes. So then after that, the mid-90s onwards, his career suffered. a slump. He faced financial ruin as his music company, music publishing company and his wife's children's fashion label. Both went broke. His wife's children's fashion label. That's always the first to go. Not the essentials. He was pursued by both ANZ and the ATO for amounts exceeding
Starting point is 01:12:43 1.3 million, which I didn't know. I didn't know any of that. And that, yeah, the way that's the tax office here. Yeah. The way he tells it in his book, he's like, he's just not really thinking about that stuff. And he's like, all of a sudden they're like, he talked about all these like, um, Lamborghinies and stuff he's bought. And he's made his country house into a mansion. And they're like, you're out of cash.
Starting point is 01:13:06 You can't have anything. He's like, oh, I'll just do another tour. They're like, no, it's too far gone for that. You're going to basically bank. I think you have to go bankrupt. Pretty much. Yeah. Cross you the clown style.
Starting point is 01:13:16 It's like lighting a cigarette from like, like, light. He was a parting pearl necklace on fire. It did sound at almost that comic along. He's like, I don't know. And obviously he just didn't have people looking after it enough for him. But he was living the lifestyle of Lamborghinis and things for real. Yeah. He just doesn't seem like a guy that would drive that.
Starting point is 01:13:34 No, I don't. Yeah. It just doesn't fit the bill. I'd imagine him in like a, like what's an old Holden, EH, but like. Yeah, like a Ute. Souped up. Yeah. Yeah, it's like imagining a Ute or like.
Starting point is 01:13:46 H2 450 for one room. Is that what it's called? Maybe a Land Rover now. Yeah, I could see a black... A black Mercedes with black windows. I could say that. You want to be in? Soundproof.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Alonymous? Yeah, so you can sing along the songs. So we can warm up on his way. Sounds like Barnsey's warming up and that car. Window goes down... Oh, he is. Yep, that's him. When you go from being paid $25 a week to actually getting paid for the work you're doing...
Starting point is 01:14:13 Yeah, selling thousands of seconds. All of a sudden, you're like, oh, fucking hell. He also, when he signed his first solo deal with Mushroom with Michael Gurdinsky, his manager, he just, he got a new manager after Cold Chissel guy. Obviously, he was, I think he talked about him like he was a good manager, but yeah, he was a bit part of money. It doesn't sound like he was great with money, yeah. And then he just got this bank manager guy that he became friends with this Irish guy. And he took him to that meeting and they were about to sign. And his Irish manager goes, actually, I'm going to add another client.
Starting point is 01:14:46 clause and he took out a pen and started writing on this contract that Gidinski had printed out. And Gideonski, what are you doing? You can't just write and pen on a contract. We've given you everything you've asked for, everything you've asked for. And the Irish guy goes, all right, well, we'll walk. There's other people who want us. And Gideastigoo, whoa, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And he reads it and it says, on this date every year, we will pay Jimmy 25 grand in cash.
Starting point is 01:15:12 And he goes, all right, we'll do it. So that was, like he went from 25 bucks a week to just as a little bonus on top of everything else, 25 grand. And yeah, that guy, was it, did say, that guy was just his accountant. Yeah, he was. Yep, I think he bought it. Yeah, it was a weird thing he bought. He was in town with him and he goes, I love this area. I want to live here.
Starting point is 01:15:35 And the guy goes, I know a place you might want to buy. And he showed him this place. And he was like, oh, this place is great. But do you know if they want to sell? And the guy goes, yeah, I reckon I might. It's my place. So he ended up being friends And then he got him on as a manager
Starting point is 01:15:50 Cool He just seems like he made a lot of decisions By the seat of his pants Or just on the feel for someone Yeah He trusted him so And that one turned out well think Yes
Starting point is 01:15:58 And a lot of them Yeah a lot of them turned out really well And a lot of them didn't you know It was a mix But we're up to the bit where he's deeply in debt Yes So they released a hits anthology Which put him back to the top of Australian charts
Starting point is 01:16:10 As any good band does And it also featured The hit single Love A Love A which was actually written by his wife. And he talks about that in the book. And she says, I want to try and write a song. And he says, are, do you need help? And she's like, no, no, give me a minute.
Starting point is 01:16:24 And she goes off and, like, he talks about her, like, figuring out the maths of it, like how many beats for the whole song she wants and then figuring out lyrics around it. Like, it was, like, a real strategic way to write it rather than just, like, using feelings and shit. Yeah. He tells her, like, she's walking around with a clipboard, sort of, like, tapping it out. And he's like, you're right. And he tells it, like, oh, you know, I'll support. supporter, but...
Starting point is 01:16:46 We'll see. Yeah. And then... Hit single. Amazing. Take that, Jimmy. Has he been married a couple of times? No.
Starting point is 01:16:52 One wife. Once in 1981 and... Oh, cool. Which is pretty cool. He had a kid before that. We do go into that, sure. But he... Yeah, he...
Starting point is 01:17:04 Him and Jane, he met Jane early days in Cold Chisle and, you know, they just had this long... They're still together. Yeah, yeah. They're an iconic... They're like couples' goals. Yes. But he... They're great.
Starting point is 01:17:15 know Rising Sun, the cold chisel song you might know. He wrote that about her because she, they'd had a fight in 1980 or something, 1990 or something, 1991 and she'd gone to live with her parents in Japan. And so that's why he wrote the song, The Rising Sun has stole my girl away. I'm going to go and catch a plane and steal it back again. And then he told, in the book he tells this whole story about going over and living, they make him stay in separate rooms in the Japanese house. and her stepdad's like sort of all sort of like big dog in it.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Some diplomat. He's like, oh, Jimmy's like hungover real bad as he gets there. And the guy goes, oh, you like squash? And Jimmy's like, I don't know what squash. But he goes, oh, yeah, love squash, greater squash. And the guy goes, let's go play. And he goes, what now? So he's wearing his leather pants.
Starting point is 01:18:04 He's fucking leather pants. And he goes, it was hard. We're pretty sure he owned one pair of pants for all of the 80s. And they do, yeah, he just, he just, He was too proud to not do it, so he just goes and plays. Whoops his ass. Yeah. Jimmy Barnes.
Starting point is 01:18:17 But I think the stepdad ended up respecting it because he could see, at least, was trying to have a crack at it. Yeah. He also see his balls through the pan. I respect that. Yeah. Good for you, Jimmy. It's also fun.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Like, back at home, he's in the biggest band in Australia, and they're touring around. Like, the East was out, and then he goes over there, and he has to, his step, his girlfriend's stepdad's making him sleep. in a different room. That's so funny. Just real, like, humbling stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So later in 1998,
Starting point is 01:18:51 he released the album Love and Fear, which was the first Australian, or the first album to miss the Australian top 10. Oh. And then from there, he kind of takes a bit of a break. I think this is where he actually, a lot of his drug use and alcohol abuse was later.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Like, he did it all through his life, pretty much, but it got particularly bad in. the 2000s. Oh, wow. Where he talks about singing at the, what's it called, the Olympics, and he's just like, high as a fucking kite and like just can't function. And he like, I think from the year like 1998 or 99 or something right up until, when was his last stint in rehab? It was, it was not only in like the last, I don't know, 15 years or something. Wow. And he's gone three times and it's all in like later stages of like. life because he's just like too hectic.
Starting point is 01:19:43 It's always the other way around usually. Yeah. Always usually. Always usually. Yeah. When they start out, they get really like caught up in that lifestyle and then, you know, eventually they,
Starting point is 01:19:55 they straighten out a bit or don't. But that's funny that he's, I mean, he was doing it anyway, wasn't he? But he just got worse as he got older. Imagine your middle, like he's got teenagers and your middle age dad's coming home off his face.
Starting point is 01:20:07 But telling you off frontage drinking, you're like, oh, fuck off dad. He talks about being in rehab and he, like, the first time he went and it was just real awful, like they're sitting in, you know, group therapy and they're explaining why they're there and why they've got addiction. And the first woman to speak tells this horrific story of basically being held captive. And it's pretty fucked up story about what happens to it. And then the next bloke is this like well-dressed guy who starts crying because his dad bought
Starting point is 01:20:34 him a stick shift instead of an auto car. And Jimmy just like rips into him like, did you? You just fucking hear what this lady said? What the fuck is wrong? And like shreds him a new one. Oh my God. He actually wanted to hit him there again. My daddy bought me the wrong kind of car.
Starting point is 01:20:52 It had a stick shift and I can't drive manual. I turned to drugs. What a shit gun. What a terrible person. Sorry. You don't think about it. So later on he released in 2010, Rage and Ruin. His first album of original material since 2007.
Starting point is 01:21:10 And the ideas for most of the lyrics came from a journal that he kept during the period of the late 90s to the early 2000s when he struggled most with his addiction. Things like, gone to the shops and bought a vodka bottle. Is that a big hit? Probably. Probably. I assume. And I wanted to hit him there again. With the vodka bottle.
Starting point is 01:21:37 After it's empty. Yeah, I'm not going to waste it. In 2014. He released a new album called 30-30 hindsight, which celebrated 30 years since his chart-topping debut solo album. 30 years of solo, that's wild. Which is, yeah, a whole other. Wow.
Starting point is 01:21:52 It doesn't seem that old to me. No, but also that's how old I am. So 30 years is quite a period of time. You're an 89 child? 90, it's next year, but I was going to cut corners. We're getting technical. Do you only podcast with people born in 1990? Non-in-n-n-n-n-old.
Starting point is 01:22:10 That's one of the things. Are you both 1990 as well? Yeah. Yeah. I can get friends your own age, mate. Yeah. Oh, they're all dead. You're going to hang out with these whippersnappers.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Without technology and whatnot. In electronic mail. So 3030 hindsight, he re-released all of his biggest singles featuring other artists. So he's got The Living End, Baby Animals, Keith Urban, Diesel, Tina Arena, Ian Moss, Journey. she had John Stevens, Bernard Fanning and Troy Cassadalee. Oh my God. As well as tracks with some of his kids, which is pretty cool. Oh, tin lids.
Starting point is 01:22:50 The tin lids. Oh, yeah. So we'll come to that. When did that happen? Well, so I was like, oh, right, do all of his career, and then I'm going to go into life and stuff. Otherwise, I was getting bogged down with details. Yeah, great.
Starting point is 01:23:05 This was already taken longer than I had initially planned for us, so I needed to fix myself up. I forgot about the tin lids. I am. So he talks about a lot earlier on in 1979. He remembers the exact minute that he saw his wife for the first time. Four in the afternoon, the 29th of November, 1979. She was so beautiful.
Starting point is 01:23:26 I literally had to walk out of the room and regrouped. Which is pretty cute, except that they fought like fucking cats and dogs for most of their relationship. That a tumultuous relationship and she left in March 1980. to follow her family to Tokyo. And then they eventually got back together and got married in 1981 and had their first child, Mahalia, in 1982. They have four children together, Mahalia, Eliza, Jain, Ellie Mae and Jackie, who formed with the group The Tin Lids, who had a number one hit, I think. Number one or number two or something? When they were real little two.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Yeah, they were little tackers. I was singing like this. Was it a Christmas album or something? Yeah, maybe. Yeah. So on top of all of this, Barnes had already fathered a son, who is a now famous singer in Australia, David Campbell. And hosts of Breakfast TV show.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Oh, yes, too. Morning show. Morning show, great. Morning star. Is that what he said? Sonia Krooga. I first saw him in a play at the MTC. Really?
Starting point is 01:24:33 I had no idea that he was Barnes' son. Well, he might not have either at that stage. Yeah, true. He was great. But yeah, because his Jimmy Barnes and David's mom were only like somewhere between 16 and 18 when he was born. He was raised by his grandma thinking that that was his mother, thought his mother was his sister and thought Jimmy was just a random Scottish uncle even though no one else had a Scottish accent in his family. So Jimmy like knew him growing up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:59 And it talks about later on, I think he missed a lot of the formative years, like the real young years and regretted it a lot. And there's a clip of him talking about it with David in an interview. And David said it's the first time I'd read or heard you kind of say that. And they both got really emotional about it because during the book, Jimmy talks about David spending a lot of his teenage years really lost and put a lot of it back to his childhood, which, you know, was a bit of a mess around. He was 16 when he found out that Jimmy Barnes was his dad. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:25:33 It was like at a cold chisel concert or something. Something. Far out. He must have just been told or something. He walks up and he's like, you're my dad? Imagine if his sister leans over and goes, that's your dad. Also, I'm your mum. What a conversation.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Any questions or are we good? Do you want the vodka now? Mum's your nana. The dog is your cat. Your name's actually Craig. Your name's actually Campbell David. But we're just tricking you up, mate. Just testing you.
Starting point is 01:26:09 So to add to this already family of five children that he has, in 2005, he received a letter from a young woman named Amanda, who spoke about wanting to find her birth father and her mother thought that Jimmy was him. They took a paternity test and the result came back positive. But Jimmy stated when he saw her for the first time, there was no doubt that she was his child. She also had a couple of kids who Jimmy thought looked like other members of his family. And Amanda and David actually went to school together but didn't particularly like each other, which Jimmy says, like, thank God. Because imagine they start going steady and then find out later they're related. Yeah. It's pretty.
Starting point is 01:26:47 A couple of years after that, Jimmy receives another letter. Oh my God. Similar to the first. Jimmy, you're dumb. From a woman named Megan. And again, they did the test and it all came back legit. But he said all it took was one look and he knew that she was his. Do they all look like him?
Starting point is 01:27:03 Yeah. These poor people. I reckon he was hot back in the day. He's all right. I mean, David Campbell's gorgeous. David Campbell's a good looking man. But do you, as a lady, do you want to look like Jimmy Barnes? As a lady, do you want to look like Jimmy Barnes?
Starting point is 01:27:16 No. I'm saying that, I look like my dad and here we are. I look like my dad. It's a thing. Yeah. Mahalia is beautiful. She's gorgeous. She's gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:27:26 And a beautiful voice. Yep. Barnesy, no, he's a stud. Yep. Oh, no doubt about that. But I was just imagining him. There's pictures of. with different hair basically.
Starting point is 01:27:36 And then being like, oh. And just means like that. Yeah, they've got his voice too. Dad! Yes. She is mine, yes. My child. So Jimmy's wife, Jane, through all of this,
Starting point is 01:27:49 was very supportive and insisted that his children, all of his children were, and their families be welcomed into the family. So the Barnes clan is large, but very close. That is very, very nice. But were these before he married Jane? David was David was
Starting point is 01:28:06 The last two were 2005, 2007 Wait, what? Yeah The, no, the born? Oh, sorry, no, no, no, so they're like full adults with husbands and No, he thinks it was back from when he was still living in Elizabeth Oh, right, in Adelaide Oh, shit, okay
Starting point is 01:28:20 I don't actually know, he doesn't, he doesn't hear Basically, I'm just wanting to make sure that he, like, that he's been faithful to join No, he definitely, I think he talks about it a lot, he definitely plays up on her a lot Damn it. Yeah. Jimmy, you fucking dog. You dog. So that's basically Jimmy and his family.
Starting point is 01:28:37 And then I just found a bunch of other random facts that I liked that I thought I'd throw in. Would you know them fun facts? Most of them, yes. We like that on this show. It's a lot funner of than all the depressing shit from the start. In March 99, he performed at the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras annual party, which with the 1978 Sylvester hit, You Make Me Feel Mighty Real, which if you don't know that song, that's a cracker.
Starting point is 01:29:02 I don't know if I do know it. You make me feel mighty real. You make me feel mighty real. It's a banger. It's nice to have somebody else sing on the pod for once. Yeah, apologies to that. No. I only know it because it was featured on an episode of Rupol's Drag Race.
Starting point is 01:29:19 And I was like, that's a banging song. And now it's on my writing playlist. So other fun facts for you. He was raised a Protestant, considers himself a Buddhist and found out later on in life that he has Jewish relatives. So I think from what I have learned over the years is that it's like passed down through the mother's side. So he recalls that he asked his mum in 2009.
Starting point is 01:29:51 She said to him, he said to her, I remember when I was about 18, you gave me a star of David. Why? And she said, oh, your mother gave that to me. Her mother gave it to her. I thought I'd give it to you. And he said, okay, was your mother Jewish by any chance? And she says, yes, her name was Esther. And so he was like, shit, if that's the way it works, then I am also Jewish, apparently.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Jewish Protestant Buddhist. Yeah, but yeah, calls himself a Buddhist. Does that make him God? Yes. I think so, yeah. No, he needs one more. Yeah. You've unified three or four.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Or is it five, go the Quinella. Is that five? Queen Tuplets Yeah I think it's standard Captain Planet rules Yeah Five rings Then you create God
Starting point is 01:30:35 Yeah So he needs two more Still needs heart Yeah So nice try Go collect two more religions Then come back to me What a rookie
Starting point is 01:30:44 In 2011 He planted a flame tree Made famous by the Colchisel song Flame trees At the National Arboretum In Canberra which I am doing environmental science
Starting point is 01:30:57 so I found that really interesting. He's done a tree. Cool. Jimmy did a tree. In 2015, this is a less fun fact but he had to ask the Reclaim Australia political party to stop playing his music at their rallies. It's a nice fact.
Starting point is 01:31:11 It's a fun fact. No, but it's nice. But we know he's not a racist. And he was like, no, don't use my music. Yeah, probs please don't. But who would be like, yeah, use my? It would be shit. It would be some guy called Darren recorded on his iPhone.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Who would it be? Yeah, didn't they have trouble finding a band to play at Trump's inauguration because of reasons like that? Yeah. Because you don't want to be associated with, you know. Three Doors Down, I think ended up doing it. Playing their one hit Kryptonite. Oh, God. One of their hits.
Starting point is 01:31:38 Name another. I don't want to. No, I don't think I should have to. Don't put me on the spot. How dare you come into my house? My house. Wish they were rehearsing. I live in this podcast.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Yeah, excellent. Things are not going well from that time. Three doors down. embarrassing. Daly Parton has a song called Two Do You reckon that's why they made it three? Yeah, they live next door to her. Just trying to one up her. Yeah. They live next door to Germany. Or trying to tribute her because they love Dolly Parton.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Probably did. Who doesn't? That's true. Good luck. That's a short list, isn't it? Even shorter than people willing to play at Trump's inauguration. In 2017, he and the Wiggles won the Aria for Best Children's album. Yes. We've done an episode on The Wiggles. Did we? We!
Starting point is 01:32:25 I'm in two podcasts. It's so weird for you to meet each other. My secret second podcast family. You're not my sister. You're my mum. I'm your grand-tother. You're not my cat. You're my God.
Starting point is 01:32:41 No, we did an episode about the history of the Wiggles. They were my very first concert. I saw them at Springvale Town Hall in the mid-90s. Yeah, nice. Class is vintage. Did Jeff stink? No, Greg. Was Greg stinky?
Starting point is 01:32:56 I can't remember. Jeff was sleepy, though. I'll tell you that. Yeah, you've always got to wake that bastard up. Yeah, come on. See a doctor. Must be having the same vodka, Jimmy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:06 He's a narc. He's a norc, man. So Jimmy has been inducted into the Aria Hall of Fame, which was like... The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but the Australian version, so smaller. Twice, once with cold chisel in 93, and once it... In a solo artist. Once as the dad of the tin lids. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:25 The chaperone. He's still chaperone in 2005 as solo. He was also a patron of the choir of Hard Knocks, a cora group formed by Jonathan Welch and consisting of homeless and disadvantaged people in Melbourne. His brother-in-law is Diesel. Him and his wife, Jane, set Diesel up with Jane's sister, Jep, and they married in 1989. Oh, that's nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Keep it in the fame. He also has 13 grandchildren and one great-grandchild. He's a great-grandfather. That's wild. What? He's not? How old is he? 65 or something?
Starting point is 01:34:03 Because his first kid was when he was 16 or something. Yeah, David, he was young. But I think it's one of his daughters that he found out about. Yeah, right. And David's got three kids. Yeah, if you have kids when you're 16 and they have kids when they're 16 and they have kids when they're 16 and they have kids when they're. they're 16 and they have kids when they're 16 and they have kids when they're 16. Sounds like a lot of maths.
Starting point is 01:34:26 They have kids when they're 16. Don't you think? I'll lost count. Get it. Dave. Do you get it now? Yeah. That's like you could be like a great, great great, great.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Really good, great great. But you didn't have any kids at 16. Oh, you're a bit behind then. Well, we don't know that for sure. He hasn't checked his mailbox today. That's the one out the front of the house. I don't know. What else have we got here?
Starting point is 01:34:53 He is the only person to ever win the Australian or is it book award. I've written down the acronym but not what it stands for. But he won whatever that award is, best book in Australia for a year, for working class boy in 2017 and then again for working class man in 2018. Wow.
Starting point is 01:35:15 He's the only person to have won it to. Twice. Oh, right. I thought you're the only person to have won it at all. I've clearly made up an award for it. They keep... They just love Jimmy so much. No good enough books this year.
Starting point is 01:35:28 It's the Jimmy Barn Book Award. It's got a very tight criteria. Oh, I never really thought about that. You know, when you're a kid, you dress up for book week? Yeah. Kids can go dressed up as Jimmy Barnes. Oh, my God. That would be good.
Starting point is 01:35:44 It'd be very cute. It's accurate. Australian Book Industry Awards. There we go. I probably should have figured that out. That is a sexy name. Gies, Australian Book Awards.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Arias nice. Arias nice. Australian Recording Industry Award. Australian Recording Industry Award. Association. Association. Award. I would have gone with that.
Starting point is 01:36:05 That's fine. Not the award awards. The award awards. And my final fun fact for Jimmy Barnes. In 2017, he featured in the song Big Enough by Kieran J. Kalan. The song was featured on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon in a comedic skit. In addition to this, his cameo in the song's music video became a popular internet meme in late 2017. Is that from 2017?
Starting point is 01:36:31 Yeah, I felt real old. Like, I thought it was pretty on top of the meme scene. Yeah, I thought that was a bit more current. Turns out I am old as fuck. Yeah. But basically, he met Kieran for the first time a few years earlier when they both sung with Neil Finn in Sydney. Kieran said, would you scream on one of my...
Starting point is 01:36:48 tracks and before he'd even heard the song he'd said yes he's like fuck yeah sounds great uh he sent kieran sent him big enough it was not what i expected i remember just thinking what a weird song um but it was so infectious and i was singing the melodies everywhere i went so i just screamed on it like a banshee for about five minutes uh do we have a do we have a clip of that most beautiful vocals you'll ever hear he couldn't possibly have any more could he You are wrong. It's not good for you, Jimmy. That's so good.
Starting point is 01:37:45 So you know how during comedy festival you'll run into Zach from Auntie Donner and on day two he's already on vocal rest because they've done a show. Jimmy Barnes must be on vocal rest all the time. He can speak for one hour of day and that is the noise that he makes. Like Ian Moss just shreds guitar at people. Jimmy just screams at them. How do you go to order his coffee? Latte
Starting point is 01:38:07 Sorry That is wild Yeah, see it hurts We're not trained like Jimmy I'm okay That concludes my report Well done Fantastic
Starting point is 01:38:22 debut effort That is an incredible report Like you've done it many times before It's almost like I've known this topic For a different podcast Honestly One of the biggest The best feedback we get when we have a guest
Starting point is 01:38:34 reporter, especially when they bring in something that they're passionate about, is that people can hear the passion. So when Matt did an episode on Pantera, a lot of people said, I've never heard of Pantera. I didn't know what it was going to be. And then the passion really shone through. And I could feel that in your report. Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:50 And unlike Matt's episode on Pantera, I wasn't throwing up. So I was able to help you with the vibe, which I did not do for Matt. And I reckon I'll learn a bunch there. I didn't know how rough his childhood was. Oh, it's fucked. up. It's awful. A round metal.
Starting point is 01:39:08 Yeah. And just like needing an escort just to go outside. That's a four and five year old. What the hell? Yeah, being scared of teenage gangs. Oh no, we're going to be in Glasgow next week. Just have an escort. Yeah, we're going to go together.
Starting point is 01:39:22 The adult is with you. Yeah. No. Poddad. Poddad. Poddad will have to escort us to the bathroom. But yeah, if you get your hands on it to either read or listen, it's really interesting. It's just real fun.
Starting point is 01:39:34 fucking depressing, so go into it in a good mood. Yeah. At least you're not like super depressed afterwards. Wow. A good tip. Great tip. Well, thanks so much for that report, Sam. A section of the show that you probably know and love very much is the fact, quote or question segment, which we do after the report.
Starting point is 01:39:54 This week, we're doing two as we do every week. And the way to get into this section is by supporting us at patreon.com slash do go on pod on the Sydney Seanberg deluxe VIP rest in peace edition level or something like that I haven't looked at in a long time but it's definitely got Sydney Seanberg in it and then you get to give us a fact of quote or a question and also get to give yourself a title this week Paul Jacob has entered into the fact quote or question section and he's given himself the title of additional comptroller regarding inventory of lost ideas oh that's handy we lose so many so much I wish we had someone to just Keep track.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Yeah, that's great. Great. Comptroller's a fun. I've got a Comptroller. I've only ever heard Comptroller and the Simpsons. What does it mean, Dave? What's a Comptroller? It's easier to say, well, they're not.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Okay. They're not a police officer. Okay. They're not a fighter pilot. Okay. They're not my mom. All right. They're not teachers.
Starting point is 01:40:56 Okay. Thank you. It's end of list. They're everything else. Everything else. Yeah. Wow. They're a dog cat pig.
Starting point is 01:41:04 Yep. It's really ugly. So he writes a question. Great. Love it. And Sam, I don't read them until I'm reading them. Good to know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:15 He writes, thank you for all. Oh my God. Thank you. Let me make this font bigger one thing. Just zoom in. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's touchscreen.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Okay, that's not working. There was a problem. I've turned it off and on again. There's a box that popped. All right. Let me just struggle through. Thank you all for such great laughs and good times. I enjoy every week and while I'm still catching up on Patreon episodes,
Starting point is 01:41:41 I've been listening ever since Matt Stewart decided to invade my other favorite pod, The Weekly Planet. As you all are my go to for laughs every week, wondering where you guys go to when you need a laugh. I mean, other than each other. Oh, we do not turn to each other. I need to shatter that impression that you have, that we turn to each other for anything
Starting point is 01:42:04 other than money sometimes we ask Dave for cash. I'm good for it. I'm in a lot of debt today. That's what they say. Yeah. And his interest rates are crippling. But I don't plan on paying him back. He said 12 months interest free
Starting point is 01:42:23 and we said too good to be true but we signed up and now he's broken me legs. He's small but he's feisty. What makes you laugh, Dave? That video on the internet where it's a Scottish woman and her child has not flushed a poo. It's disgusting. It was fucking one of you. It wasn't me.
Starting point is 01:42:43 I didn't know. A fucking one of you. Who's filming it? Is she? Who's filmed? No, the two girls are trying to record some shit. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:52 So they're like sort of on a webcam and the mom comes into yellow of them. Which one of your dinner? I'm too cynical for the internet. I assume that's a setup. No, that was years and years ago. And then one of the girls later came out and did a video saying, yeah, it was me. I was too scared to admit it. Of course you were.
Starting point is 01:43:11 She's screaming out of you. And then I have heard that the mum still gets people in the supermarkets and stuff, recognising her as the angry shipwoman. Really? Disgusting. Let's track her down in Glasgow next week. I stream it somewhere around there. Yes. Where do I go for comedy?
Starting point is 01:43:27 Why am I struggling to think? Do you listen on any podcast religiously? Yeah, Josh Earls. Josh Earls, don't you know who I think I am. I'll just do it religiously. Don't you know who I am. What else do I listen to? Let me look at my podcast.
Starting point is 01:43:42 I actually like to listen to a little bit of Jimmy Barnes' audiobook. Ah! Dug-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D. Count-down. That's one of the biggest laughs I've had recently. The many times I've played that and shared that with friends and family. So funny. All the planet broadcasting podcasts, I like, very much so.
Starting point is 01:44:07 Just what makes you laugh? Sitcoms, I reckon. I revisit a lot of sitcoms. The nanny! No, I reckon I've watched Brooklyn Nine-Nine several times. Parks and Rex are favourite of mine. I'm watching 30 Rock again at the moment, and that's a lot of fun. I think sitcoms are how I kind of switch off, but genuinely make me laugh.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Auntie Donna sketches? Yeah, big time. They, oh, this was so good. A couple of weeks ago, I was just in one of the offices here at Stupid Old and I was talking to another comedian. And then Broden came in and said, could you, would you mind just coming to our office and watching a sketch we've made? And I was like, well, yes. It's like it hasn't been released and I get to sit. But then I had to sit, got to.
Starting point is 01:44:49 I got to sit in their office surrounded by them while they watched. Yeah, they watched me watch their sketch. That's terrifying. It sounds stressful. It was a little bit stressful. but it was also a very funny sketch. So I was laughing a lot, and then I didn't have to give them any feedback
Starting point is 01:45:03 because I'd laughed. And they went, all right, you can go. So thank you. So whenever that sketch comes out, it's good stuff. That's funny. Sam, does something make you laugh in particular? Yeah, looking at Jimmy Barnes screaming cowboy memes. That is funny.
Starting point is 01:45:16 It's so many good ones. It's still fun. I'm also surprised it's 2017. Yeah, I had no idea. It's funny, but it's also catchy as fuck. Yeah. It is amazing that a man's screaming is so nice to listen to. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:30 It's also a fun of watch. It's a great running song I listen before going to bed. I meditate on it. He's screaming, but it's completely in tune. Yeah. That's the, he's a genius. He's also a Buddhist. I think that's one of their Buddhist chants.
Starting point is 01:45:45 I hope I don't sound ignorant there to the Buddhist chant. Is he saying om the whole time? Yes. Oh, nice one. Thanks to the comptroller there for controlling us to. Answer that question. Yeah. I'd say, yeah, Josh the podcast.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Ben Russell is someone who always makes me laugh. Yes. Oh, yeah. I was at a gig the other night he was hosting. I was on it and he did his character, Funny Lady. Funny Lady. Is he doing her live now? He's going to, yeah, he does it live and he's doing, for the comedy festival,
Starting point is 01:46:19 he's doing funny lady walking tour. That is so good. So there's like, like 15 people max each night. and he's going to do a walking tour with a headset and stuff. It's funny. It's funny. It's going to be good. So good.
Starting point is 01:46:36 I'm very excited about that. And then secondly, thank you so much, Paul. And secondly, Manny Gaza, who's called Manny being a man name. The Manny name. Saved it, saved it. Manny calls themselves.
Starting point is 01:46:55 There you go. Yep, that's what you could have done. Themselves. Spar Association. at Chernobyl Chemical Cleanseco. Oh, no. Well, you're going to burn your face off. Yeah, but the skin underneath will be so supple.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Baby butt, fresh. You'll look 30 years younger. And Manny. Dead, you'll look good. I get it now. Thanks. I didn't get it at first. I'm not even making fun.
Starting point is 01:47:17 I didn't get it. Me either. But it's good. Thank you. Mani's given us a fact. And this fact starts with an intro. Hey, crew. This week.
Starting point is 01:47:29 I have a medical fact to share with you all. Love medical facts. Well, was that a personal medical fact? I have testicles. The procedure known as a hysterectomy, the removal of the uterus, is broken down into two parts. Hister, which is related to the word hysteria, or strong emotions, an ectomy, which means to cut out. A bit bizarre that to this day, a common procedure that thousands of women have a day for a variety of reasons has a literal translation to cut out the hysterical bit.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Sorry if it's all a bit uncomfortable, please don't shoot the messenger. When he said that it's in two, what did you say, two parts, two parts. I thought that was the operation as well. I thought he was going to describe in detail how they get it out. How you're, oh, I don't know if I want, we need to know. Wow, that is wild. Hysterectomy. As a person with a uterus, I don't want to know.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Well, no. I'm pretty sure. He tries to escape once a month already, so I'm just going to ask that. Is that something that can happen? They just fight the fallopian tubes, start punching them inside. They're like, fuck you. Go fuck you. And the fallopian tubes wanted to punch them there and then.
Starting point is 01:48:45 Thank you so much, Mani. That is a fascinating fact. I'd call that all. That's borderline fun. Is that fun? Nah. But it's fascinating. Not for the uterus holders in them.
Starting point is 01:48:55 Yeah. Oh, okay. We're pretty sensitive about our uteruses. I might get hysterical. I might get hysterical if we keep talking about. I'm already bloody on the way there. And then I'm going to smack you. And another thing we like to do, Sam,
Starting point is 01:49:09 is thank a few of our other Patreon supporters. Jess, I'm going to give us a little bit of a game and some sort of a thing that we can give them or something. I explain that well. I think using game in this sense is weird anyway. It's not really a game. It's just a topic that we can. I reckon we, because we have had a lot of fun,
Starting point is 01:49:27 teasing band names. Maybe we give them a band name. Oh, great. Something better than Tarkas or worse? Better than Tarkas, but worse than Orange. Okay. Somewhere between Tarkas. So basically feather. All right, well, can I kick it off? Please. I'd love to thank from Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Andrea Ginaldi. Andrea Jinaldi and the cuckoo clocks. Oh, that's good. That is in that spot. What? I reckon the cuckoo clock. Yeah, it's not quite as good as orange, but it's better than Tark. Tarkas. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:50:03 It's still bad. It hurts to say. I questioned whether I'm not said. This can't be right. It can't be Tarkas. That sucks. It has bad mouth feel. It does.
Starting point is 01:50:12 Tarkas. Tarkis. Tarkis. It makes me lisp on that S. Tarkas. Oh, I don't like it. The cuckoo clocks. Yeah, I like that.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Good. Because if it would have been too good if it was the cuckoo. That would have been. Cuckoo Coo Coo Coochoo's. Cucucucos would have been better than even feather. But Cuccoo Clocks is right in that sweet spots between orange and Tarkas. Thank you so much, Andrea Janaldi. I'd also love to thank from a place they have not told us where Vincenzo, Vinnie Giovanna Bonadonna.
Starting point is 01:50:52 Whoa! That's a name in itself. Okay. Vincenzo Giovanni Bonadon. The greyhounds. Oh, the greyhound. So Vincenzo, Vinny, Giovanni, Bonadonna and the greyhounds. So that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:51:05 My neighbours have an Italian greyhound, which are tiny greyhounds. Oh, they're so cute. They're so cute. And they got him as a puppy and they're like, oh, this is Vincenzo because he's Italian. We want to give him an Italian name. And I said, do you call him Vinny? And they went, nah, chenzo. Oh, I like that.
Starting point is 01:51:21 So now I just see chenzo around the building. And I go, chenzo! And he runs away because he's so little. Chenzzo's great. Chanzo's the best. So yeah, Vincenzo's band is the Greyhounds. Whoa. Vincenzo and the Greyhounds.
Starting point is 01:51:35 I'd go see them play. Yeah, that sounds good. Yeah. All right. Dave, do you want to have a go? Yeah, let me have a go. I would like to thank all the way from Paranount. Okay.
Starting point is 01:51:47 California? Paranount. Is that... I mean, if that's a mistake, we didn't type that in. No. I'm just trying to underline. I'm underlining this. that so I don't get blamed when we've read it out wrong.
Starting point is 01:52:00 It definitely says Paranount. Paranount, California. It auto-corrects to Paramount when I Google it. I would like to thank George Fuentes. Oh, my God. George Fuentes. I just did an ear come. George, we don't know if you misspelled your city name, but...
Starting point is 01:52:17 Don't you fucking regret face. Ear come. Did you come in your own ear? Yeah. That's a real skill. That's precision. When the wind is just right. With just the right hip movement, you too can come in your own ear.
Starting point is 01:52:37 George Fuentes and the correct wind. Fuentes is so good. So great. You just need to whisper it. Fuentes. Oh, the correct wind. Fuentes. A light breeze, okay, the correct wind.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Thank you, George Fuentes. And the light breeze. No, the correct wind. The correct wing But when they tour certain countries They have to be called the light, light breeze Because there's another band I've been called the correct win
Starting point is 01:53:05 Thank you George I'd also like to thank from Carmanthenshire In Great Britain A beautiful neck of the woods A beautiful neck of the woods With a beautiful name It rolls off the tongue
Starting point is 01:53:20 Carmarthenshire That was someone making up a fake place Oh you live You've set up your own town What's it called? Carmanthensche. And that is Sam Andresen. Oh, another fantastic.
Starting point is 01:53:35 Or Sam Andreasen. Oh, San Andreas Fault. It's in Wales. Carmanthenshire. Oh, that explains how I mispronounce it. Does I get away over that? Yes. Sam Andresen and the Faults.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Oh, the Faults. You just had the San Andreas Fault. The Fault sounds good. I think that might actually be. too good. Can you make it worse? Maybe the vaults. I was thinking Sam and the Drescens. I like it. Sam and the Dresens. Yeah, that's worse. That's not quite as good as orange. It's better than... Definitely better than Tarkas. Tarkas. Oh yeah. I think all of these have cleared the Tarkal.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Yeah. So thanks to Sam. Sam and Dreson and the Dresens. Well, I would like to thank a couple people too if I may. I'd see the next name. Yeah. I would like to thank from Germany. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:54:33 Deutschland, as they call it. Andreas Mulawa? Might even just be like Muller. Mule. Yeah. What does an omel out do to a U?
Starting point is 01:54:45 It stretches it, right? Like, mule. We've had Sam and the Dreyasans and now we have Andreas Muleer. They're from K.O. I think that's Cologne, right?
Starting point is 01:54:56 Right, or what we call Cologne? Maybe. Or are they from the kiln? Are they in the kiln? Get in the kiln. Get in the kiln. Don't get in the kiln. All right, so what would Andreas's band name be?
Starting point is 01:55:11 Mulana and the Dreyasans. Yes. I'm going to call it. All right. So, Collar, if it's the, the little glass. The little glasses. Yeah, Andreas Mueller and the little glasses. You just look at Sam's glasses?
Starting point is 01:55:32 No, in Cologne they have small glasses of beer. The little glasses. Because I think Sam was telling me before about how the living ends... The long necks. Their secret name is the long necks. I thought it was going to end up being as the opposite of that. The long necks is a type of... It's a tall beer bottle.
Starting point is 01:55:52 The little glasses. Short glasses better probably. the short glasses. Short glasses. I like that. And finally, bringing it home from Ireland, where we're going to be today when this comes out. Whoa, we're flying there now.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Exciting. I would love to thank Richard Fisher. Oh, Ritchie Fisci. Rich. Dick Fischer. Oh, no. Actually, that means something else. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:56:21 You don't want a Dick Fischer. Wait, what? Actually. Okay, all right. Someone corrected Jess on Twitter if people are trying to figure out why she is sounding like this. It's so fun. Actually. Actually is my favourite.
Starting point is 01:56:39 But the funnest thing about it is you can never tell if people are Am Actuallying ironically or not. Yeah. Actually, I'm doing that ironically. I would assume usually an al-Actually is an ironic thing. but anyway, that's a bit of fun. Dick Fisher. Dick Fisher and... All right, let's each do one word for this last one.
Starting point is 01:57:01 All right. All right. So, first word that comes to your mind. I'm going to start it. The wet barn. Behind me. The wet barn behind me. That is better than Tarkas.
Starting point is 01:57:16 It brings an aisle. The wet barn behind. So Richard Fisher and the wet barn behind me. That is actually that. I kind of love that name. Is that too good? That might almost be too good for orange. It sounds like the wet bar behind me.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Yeah. Yeah. It does. Well, that's the kind of music that Richard Fisher makes. Art. Art. Yeah. He lets his guitar do the talking and it says,
Starting point is 01:57:40 Bealoolelele, art. Thanks so much. Richard, Andreas, Sam, George, Vincenzo and Andrea. And also, finally, before we start wrapping up, it is time to induct some listeners into the Triptitch Club. So these beautiful people, Sam, have been supporting us on Patreon for three years. And once they hit the three-year level, they get inducted in the Triptitch Club, which Dave is, I think 24 hours a day is working on an extra page of the website, which is going to list all the names. I just don't stop saying it.
Starting point is 01:58:18 In gold glitter? I'm not going to do it. Wait, you're not going to do it? You did it for your mum's butt and you put a picture of you flipping off the camera You might figure out How it's the TV I forgot how to get in there
Starting point is 01:58:34 I've lost the password Let it go Let it go Matt All right He's not going to do it He's not He assured me He's winking as he says he's not
Starting point is 01:58:43 Let's just put him on a piece of paper And we'll hang him up on the wall Oh And then we can just add to it On the fridge, sure I say these names out loud before I get to bed every night. Just know that.
Starting point is 01:58:54 Stop saying it. I'm not going to do it. Your mum's butt, we did. Yeah, that was a one time only. Oh yeah, this would be, you'd have to check in. Anyway, let's read the names. From Norwich, Douglas Allen Whiteside, from Provo, Daniel Ryan,
Starting point is 01:59:12 from Camperdown, Connor Saunders, from Wolverhampton, Sam Jones, and from Manchester. Go Walbs. Benjamin Bresson. Oh, thank you, Sam. much you absolute legends. So good. Thank you so, so much.
Starting point is 01:59:26 Douglas is a great name you don't hear enough of anymore. Douglas, Daniel, Connor, Sam, Benjamin. A fantastic group of names. Beautiful. Benjamin, of course, being the kind of money that I got out to go visit Ireland. Can't wait to spend some of them Irish Benjamin's. Oh, dear. I don't know why you're making those sounds.
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Starting point is 02:00:45 and it's a real good time we go through them album by album. And we also, the first episode, we go through the history of pub rock in the early days of Chissel which is a bit of bloody fun. But I guess before we go, there's nothing else left to do apart from say, any way you want it, that's the way you need it,
Starting point is 02:01:04 any way you want it. All night. All night. All night. I'm proud of you for remembering. I only just caught it right again. done. Good job. Later's.
Starting point is 02:01:25 Bye. Goodbye. No, I go last. Bye. Goodbye. Stop it. Bye. Thanks for joining us, Sam.
Starting point is 02:01:31 Fuck you. Bye. Bye. Sam, you shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Oh, nice.
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