Do Go On - 217 - Sir Christopher Lee

Episode Date: December 18, 2019

One of the most interesting figures of the Twentieth Century, Sir Christopher Lee is most famous as an actor, but he was also a World War II badass, Nazi Hunter, Heavy Metal Musician and multiple worl...d record holder. Simply put, he lived one hell of a life. Dave reports on the man that played Dracula, Fu Manchu, Sherlock Holmes, Francisco Scaramanga, Rasputin, Saruman in The Lord of The Rings, Count Dooku in Star Wars and dozens upon dozens of other characters.Record live in London.Buy tickets to our live shows here: https://dogoonpod.com/events/Our website: dogoonpod.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comCheck out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amana, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.
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Starting point is 00:00:38 Hey team, just stay for you at the top of the episode to tell you what you're about to listen to was recorded live in London. Just a couple of weeks ago now, the third last show of our UK tour. If you're obsessed with putting things in order, this was actually the one recorded in the afternoon before our Christmas episode that we put out last week. So thank you so much to everyone that came along to those, packed out both London shows, some of the best times I've ever had doing a podcast live on the stage. I'm just going to put a note at the top here that there is a middle section where Matt goes and joins the audience as he often does, and then there's a bit of a strange thing. I'm sure it will come across in the recording, but just so you know,
Starting point is 00:01:29 there was a lady in the audience who could not get over the fact that Matt looked a lot like her brother. Yes, that is as bizarre as it sounds. and I was told that this lady talked throughout the entire show, so I apologise to everyone that we tried our best to try and take control of the situation, and I hope you can hear that there. We were quite perplexed. But apart from that, I think this is a really, really fun episode. It's a fascinating topic about a guy with an really interesting life.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I won't give it away just in case you haven't read who it's about. But please enjoy this episode. Our second last one for the year, I believe, that we'll be putting out, but we won't be taking a break over December or January. We are powering right through, so don't worry about that. Yeah, enjoy the episode and I'll be back at the end with a few of our Patreon reads. I did not mean to pause there. Love you guys.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Speak to you soon. Bye. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to 229 the venue. How you doing out there? All right. Cheer now if you're ready to podcast. Cheer now if your name is Greg. Oh my God, Greg didn't turn up.
Starting point is 00:02:46 The show has been cancelled. No, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for coming out. Could you please put your hands together, welcome to the stage, all the way from Melbourne, Australia. It's due go on. Thank you so, so much for coming out, and thank you so much to Jess Perkins for closing the curtain. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:03:29 A true professional... By the way, let's give it up for Jess and Matt. I was going to say Matt Stewart there, but didn't give him the benefit of the last name. You know who he is. Hi Matt. I'm Matt Stewart. This is a...
Starting point is 00:03:47 A hazard, yeah. Hi. And hi to you as well. Who's ready for the stage dive part of the evening? I'm aiming for you. He looked strong. Which one? Who? Who are we looking for? Hello?
Starting point is 00:04:04 Oh, big time. Yeah, yeah. I mean, as soon as he said, hello, I've downgraded that strength. I'm so sorry. Hello. This big tough man will catch him. me, hi. No. No. We'll all plunge to our death. Hello, everyone. Hi, hi. How are you doing up the back? Just making sure he could hear me. All good. You're very polite crowd. I think it's because it's 5pm.
Starting point is 00:04:30 You wouldn't know that because the sunset about seven hours ago. It's a dark place. Yeah, what the fuck is this place? What is going on? It's crazy. It's crazy. It's 37 degrees. tomorrow on Melbourne it is? Yeah, that is too hot. You're right. We are happy to be away from home. London's sick, though. I accidentally walked across
Starting point is 00:04:50 a ruins today. You got so many ruins, you can just stumble upon them. I looked up and a man was walking his dog across. It took a piss on Edward III's house. You don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Oh, we've got lots of kings, no worries. That's just one from the 1300s. Anyway, it's... I couldn't believe it. Honestly, that dog took a piss on your... And you don't care. Imagine if it was a corgi taking a piss on your current monarch.
Starting point is 00:05:26 That probably happens daily. Yeah. Yeah, that's one of those things. I don't like dogs. Oh. Who's with me? Sorry, what? This has been a debate
Starting point is 00:05:41 that's been happening between these two for the entire two weeks. It's been a lot of fun. I got a puppy and it makes me a better person than him. It makes him a stinkier person. No, good on dogs. Well, I think they've all got their part to play. Just do it away from my house.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And Edward the Thirds house. Yeah. Respect houses. Yeah, that's it. That's dumb. Dave, start the show. Thank you so much for joining us tonight here in London. an absolute pleasure it is to be back at 229
Starting point is 00:06:14 the venue. Give me a round of applause if you've ever heard our show do go on before. Thank you. Fantastic. I love that. Why do I feel like they're ganging up on me? I even dress like that today. Oh, I'm sad. Wow, that was...
Starting point is 00:06:38 Not true. I'm very happy. Shut up, sad, man. Other end of the scale. Give me a round of applause if you've never heard our show before. Mate, I think it's just you tonight. And one in the front. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I've never seen someone as proud of that. Great to have you in. Have you been dragged along? Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for joining us. Do you have any idea what this show is? No.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Absolutely not. Fantastic. What do you think of it so far? It's great. It's a show called Dog Debate. Where do you stand? On the... On the dog.
Starting point is 00:07:16 On the dog. Sounds like you're on team Matt then. Get off the dog. That's a third position. On the dog. Not with the dog. Well, great to have you here nonetheless. Dog killer.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And what we do here at the show is we take it in terms to report on a topic, usually suggested by a listener. And tonight, it is my term to report on a topic. Thank you kindly. Thank you so much. Supportive. Cheers to you. You.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Hurtful to us. Yeah. No, nobody said, thank God, out loud. But we all thought it. And we always start with a question to get us on to topic. And I have a question for Matt and Jess, and if they can't get it, we will throw it over to you, the audience. But I've got high hopes for you guys tonight.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Thank you. My question is, the life of which man combines three of our favorite types of topic. Did he say man? Did he? I don't... You've already interrupted. This is your answer. What is it?
Starting point is 00:08:19 This is it. You only get one chance. Did he say man? Man. Man. Yes. We've been here so long we can't... Which man?
Starting point is 00:08:27 What? Tell me everything you've said so far again. Okay. I'll get this. The life of which man, M.A.N. Okay. combines three of our favorite types of topic. Hollywood, music, and World War II badassery.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Uh... Frank Sinatra? He's old. They are. very old. Yeah. Still? Oh, they?
Starting point is 00:08:53 Oh, it's the badiboo, ba-da-bado do, bidibidi-diboo. That band, the Chugawak Gertugi. No, it is. Remember, the life of which man? Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:09 New info. Let's see. Yeah, sorry, I should have led with that fact. I stand by Matt's original answer. Colonel Sanders? No. He doesn't really do any of those. but he was a man, was he?
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yes. Does anyone know? It is Christopher Lee. It is Christopher Lee! Well done. This has been suggested a lot, I think. Yeah, because he was a vampire or something? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:38 He's been suggested by 18 people. Whoa. I'm going to read out their names real quick here, just in case any of you are in tonight. Thanks so much for suggesting this. If your name is, Kerrid Wen from Western Australia, Pete Jopson from Akrington here in the UK,
Starting point is 00:09:55 Michael Berensi from New York, Sam Lillis from Sydney, Justin Godley from Canada, Nicholas Columbus, Flanders Farmer. I bet Ethan, are you in? From W.A., Fraser Green from Canada, Johnny Dawson from Lester. No, not here, okay, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Brent Carpenter from Barnstaple in North Devon. You know what? Are you telling me that that is You've combined the word barn And then come up with a completely new name What is it? Bonswoppel Okay
Starting point is 00:10:33 Okay That's done Let me go again Brent Carpenter from Barntroppel In North Devon Well you know at least He knows how to do a scone Right cream first
Starting point is 00:10:46 A scone A scone You'll get Devon. Devon. Devon. All right, calm. It is scorn, right?
Starting point is 00:10:56 Who fucking cares? They cared in Dublin, actually. They cared... I cared a lot. It's the scorn. That's Scottish. It is kind of funny that you've gone,
Starting point is 00:11:04 who cares when you were the one who corrected me? Yeah, true. I just don't want to get mobbed. We're really outnumbered. I can take like 200 of them and then you guys are on your own.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Do you reckon they'd mob over scones? Mobe, sorry, Mobe over Scones. Just over half over this list, guys. Devon Bruns from Cedar Rapids, Sean Gallagher from Mokina. Yeah, no correction there. Susie Otoriko from Hervey Bay in Queensland. James Rampant from Victoria. Mr. L. H. Jones from W. Rexham.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Will Hudson from Essex. Why are you doing this? John Collins from Ireland Jay Swan the 3rd I'm just making them up now You just wanted to say the Flanders one I did and also Adam Knight from Croydon and South London Are you here?
Starting point is 00:12:02 Are you here? Yes! Worth it, absolutely worth it Yes, thank you so much What you don't know is I paid that man 20 pounds for 10 to be So Alright so do you know anything about Christopher Lee
Starting point is 00:12:20 Apart from the Vampire stuff? I was in some sort of star, one of the star movies, track or wars? No? Fuck. Yeah, one of those is right. Jesse, info on? Yeah, heaps, but I mean, you'll get to it anyway. All right, thank you.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I hate to step on in your toes there. So, um, yep. All right, well, Christopher Lee was born on the 27th of May 1922 in Bel... Thank you so much. I thought that you were interrupting because I'd mispronounced 1922. He was born in Belgravia, a well-to-do suburb here in London, less than three miles from this venue. Oh.
Starting point is 00:13:05 There you go. He was the son of Lieutenant Colonel Jeffrey Trollope Lee. That's a fun name. And Countess Estelle Mary, who came from the historically powerful Italian Cardini family. She was a former Chanel model and was painted and sculpted by multiple artists A bit of a muse referred to as an Edwardian beauty
Starting point is 00:13:31 She just had a really boxy head It was a lot easier to sculpt She's got a perfectly square head Ah, done, great She could trace her lineage back to Charlemagne who ruled most of Western Europe in the 700s So Christopher Lee was related to the first Holy Roman Emperor.
Starting point is 00:13:53 This man with an extraordinary background would have an extraordinary life and his childhood and early years would really influence his acting throughout his life. He's a method actor. Yes. He lived through some weird stuff which I'm going to tell you about.
Starting point is 00:14:06 His parents separated when he was four and divorced two years later and you lived for a time in Switzerland. Made any connection to... Ah yes. Some of you here might know that I'm... What are we up to? 16th.
Starting point is 00:14:19 One 16th Swiss Italian. and so I'm probably related as well. It's actually one quarter, but Dave's really trying to water it down. I'm actually quite diverse in myself. If anyone wants to offer any grants, yeah, it's about time that a guy who's a few different kinds of white, got a leg up.
Starting point is 00:14:51 So live for Switzerland for a time. Before his mother, the Countess Estelle, married Harcourt George St. Croix Rose, who was the uncle of a little-known writer called Ian Fleming. So Ian Fleming, the man that would go on to create James Bond, was Lee's step-cous. Okay. What does that mean? I feel like you wouldn't care unless Ian Fleming went on to be famous, you know? Did Ian Fleming go on to be famous?
Starting point is 00:15:18 We'll find out. His mother mixed with some exotic and exciting characters throughout his childhood. and this is Lee recalling meeting some people when he was younger. Quote, when I was a small boy, I was hauled out of bed by my mother in our home in Kensington, saying, come downstairs and I'll introduce you to two men who are here for dinner. She told me, you probably won't remember what they look like, but one day you'll remember that you met them.
Starting point is 00:15:40 And he would remember them. The men were both Russian aristocrats, Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich, and Prince Yusipov, who I've mentioned on this show before, because they are known for their part in assassinating the Russian monk and mystic Rasputan. Whoa. Come to dinner. Rasputin's killer's here for.
Starting point is 00:15:59 She woke him up for that. Did they... They didn't get a hold of the dick, do they? Rasputin's magic dick. Yeah, that's the magic of the dick. People can't control themselves around it. There was a past episode that Dave told us about Rasputin's dick. It actually cured people, so maybe read a book.
Starting point is 00:16:23 about a dick Lee acted a bit in school bit of a bit of dabbling in the theatre clubs but he moved around before his father went bankrupt and his mother divorced her second husband so both Lee and his sister Zandra had to get jobs so he went to France to find work
Starting point is 00:16:42 and during this time he witnessed the execution of Eugene Weidman who was executed by a guillotine and this was the last public execution performed in France and he just happened to be there when it was happening It's actually guillotine. This was 1939. I mean, 1939 historically, is not a good year.
Starting point is 00:17:07 For a couple of reasons. It's quite the opposite, yeah. They were still guillotining people in 1939. Bad year! Yes. Much more historical. Are you saying it's a bad year because they stopped geotining people in that year?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Horrific. This is a man who's going to catch you. I'm getting less and less confident. Lee's childhood connections to Ian Fleming, Rasputin, and witnessing this execution would all come back into his later acting career. He's a method man, as he said. So that's his childhood,
Starting point is 00:17:43 but now it's time to enter the World War II badass part of his life. When the Second World War broke out, 1939, not a good time, as a 17-year-old, Lee volunteered to fight for the Finnish forces during the Winter War. He and the other English soldiers were kept away from fighting, So the following year, Lee enlisted in the Royal Air Force where he worked as an intelligence officer specialising in decoding German ciphers
Starting point is 00:18:06 because one thing I haven't mentioned is the fact that Lee spoke six languages fluently That's too many. Including... Four more or one less. So you get it now. You just want him to forget French or something. Who needs it? He could speak English, Spanish, French, Italian and German
Starting point is 00:18:25 and also knew a fair bit of Russian and Greek. how? I think most of those are basically the same. Bonjourno, bonjourna, bonjourna, bonjourna, they're all. Yeah, that's true. He then served time in North Africa where he was based with the Long Rage Desert Group,
Starting point is 00:18:46 which was a precursor of the SAS, the real badasses. Lee then moved behind enemy lines from base to base, sabotaging Luftwaffe planes and airfields along the way. He was assigned to the special operasks Operation's Executive, aka the Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare. We've talked about on the show before. He was there.
Starting point is 00:19:05 If that guy wasn't baffled before, the one has never heard it before, didn't realize this is the one that brought them all together. This is our, that movie at the end of the Marvel movies. Oh. Well, I mean... All good things. Must end in half's packaging. I will try and tie everything
Starting point is 00:19:44 He conducted espionage, sabotage and reconnaissance in occupied Europe Reconatage It would have been way better He's a montage of him performing espionage and sabotage Just him go Which one's that? Espionage? Yeah Which one's how do you do sabotage?
Starting point is 00:20:05 Oh yeah Now do some reconotage Fuck he's good Thank you Thank you He has a drama degree Can you believe it? I was going to keep this to myself
Starting point is 00:20:20 But that does remind me of what I caught Out the corner of my eye backstage I was riding with my headphones on Out of the corner of eye Dave looked No it wasn't you Oh thank God Oh there's that as well
Starting point is 00:20:31 Yeah But Dave you didn't see it I think I don't think Dave for anyone saw it He was looking at himself in the mirror He does that a lot And then he did this manoeuvre I'm not going to try and recreate it. Well, I know a guy could recreate it probably.
Starting point is 00:20:48 But basically, he did a spin, clapped, and pointed himself in the mirror. He does this a lot. Okay, what you're talking about is the classic turn, pivot, clap, double gun. No, he did it for no one but himself. He does this all the time. I honestly thought I was going to embarrass him bringing it up, but it only emboldened him. He also made up a song backstage about comedy and how he's always doing comedy.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yeah, but it did end with me saying, laugh, you fuckers, laugh, laugh, I swear I'm funny, I swear I'm... I had a breakdown, anyway. You've got to do what you've got to do to get ready, okay. So he's a spy. I'm trying to tell he's a spy. Yes. Guess what his nickname was?
Starting point is 00:21:36 Oh, spy McSpymington. So close. Spy or Duke, which are both... I mean, especially spy is a terrible nickname for a spy. Oh, this is spy, I mean, Christopher Lee. Or Duke. Duke's a pretty cool nickname. Duke sounds like a guy that would pivot, spin, clap, double gun.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Stop trying to get a nickname. Yeah, Duke, shut up. Yeah, Cobra. Honestly, the last time we were on this stage, I told you about the time I tried to get people to call me cobra, and 13 months later it has not caught on. Earthworm Fires. God.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Laugh, you fuckers. They are, mate, they are. They're laughing at you. Hey, I'll take whatever I can get. In 1943, he caught malaria six times. One less. He had to be hospitalised, but
Starting point is 00:22:43 despite this, he continued on with a war effort. But because he served with what is essentially the SAS, Lee was pretty tight-lipped about his time in the war. Years later, an interviewer asked him about his time of the S-AS and what he did throughout the war. Lee lent-forned and said, can you keep a secret?
Starting point is 00:22:59 Yes, the interviewer replied, breathless with excitement. Lee replied, so can I. What a God. But do that tight-lipped though. So can I. That's how he would have said it.
Starting point is 00:23:14 So he didn't boast about it, but we know he was a badass because by the end of the war, he'd been individually decorated for battlefield bravery by the Czech, Yucca's love, British and Polish, governments.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Far out. So yeah. Thanks. I hadn't even counted. I was just sitting here blissfully unaware. For the last few months of the war, Lee was given the job with tracking down Nazi war criminals. So he's a Nazi hunter as well.
Starting point is 00:23:42 His knowledge of multiple languages was used to interrogate the suspected criminals before handing them over to the authorities. He later said, I've seen many men die right in front of me, so many in fact that I've almost become hardened to it. Having seen the worst that he human beings can do to each other, the results of torture, mutilation,
Starting point is 00:23:59 and seeing someone blown to pieces by a bomb, you develop a kind of shell. But you had to, you had to. Otherwise, we never would have won. And that's you. He can't sweat anymore. Just like your very own prince, who you must be all so proud of. What has he done allegedly?
Starting point is 00:24:21 Don't tell me. I want to believe in the monarchy. The Crown, great show. It actually's making me feel for Charles Hasn't had that effect on you? Our future king You know your queen is our king? No
Starting point is 00:24:39 It's a confusing system But It's something like that Yeah Lee retired from the Air Force in 1946 having achieved the rank of flight lieutenant But after the war He was offered his old job back
Starting point is 00:24:58 Although funnily enough After what he'd been through an office job wouldn't really cut it anymore. So he decided to become an actor. As you do, exactly. Sorry, I lost my place here. He didn't have a natural talent for acting. His main asset was described by The Guardian
Starting point is 00:25:15 as a pleasant, dark baritone voice. And that's it. Ah, yes. I relate in some ways. Only, I have so many more strings in my bow. I can smoulder. Stop it, stop it, it's too much Gotta hold some back
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah It's only 5pm Oh, hot and flustered, actually That's my after hours look You got it before hours When do your hours start Yeah, what are your business hours? It's a short period
Starting point is 00:25:59 Five to ten minutes each Wait, what did I say? This is before hours, yeah Soon and you'll know when it happens you'll be like holy shit he's on the clock
Starting point is 00:26:11 his next five to ten minutes are going to be amazing so he's not a great actor he's not sadly at this time but he studied acting what was known as the Charm School but initially
Starting point is 00:26:27 is that where the three people from Charmed went would have been better if I could think of one of their names Shannon Doherty Brissa DeMarco Alyssa Milano
Starting point is 00:26:41 There we go And the other one And the rest I'm so close to walking off this stage Which way? Maybe just straight off Do you think it's quite far enough? You'd break something
Starting point is 00:26:57 But it wouldn't be enough to No, you'd be fine All right How far to the Thames? Not far So he's studying acting But initially he found himself dismissed by casting directors Because he was 6 foot 5 and described as imposingly tall
Starting point is 00:27:20 Whoa, that would have been freakishly tall back then Yeah In the AFL, like in the what era is this in like the 50s The Ruckman, the tallest player would have been like 5 foot 10 And now they're like 10 foot 11 or something Yeah that's right And it's because we're all leading KFCC Steve.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Someone about that, about the chicken. I'm only talking scientifically. I'm really trying to go with you on things here, but, you know, sass twins and all that. You are making it hard. I'm going to have a little time out. Okay, you have a little time out. Dave, do go on.
Starting point is 00:28:04 So, he's too tall. A film producer stories... How tall is he? Six foot five. Well, that would have been massive back then. Wow. Yeah. I'll just keep talking.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Nothing else needs to be said. Actually, I know an obscure Australian sport. It's not. It's not. But a film producer saw what he thought was his potential early on. And quote from Lee, he looked me up and down and concluded that I was just what the industry had been looking for. Lee was then sent to Hungarian film producer Joseph Somlow
Starting point is 00:28:44 for a contract who immediately announced that he was much too tall to be an actor. Right, okay. Someone says you're great, another person says we can't have you. Lee later said, initially, I was told I was too tall to be an actor. That's quite a fatuous remark to make. It's like saying you're too short to play the piano. I thought, right, I'll show you.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And he played the piano. You never look back. It probably, I mean, you probably can be too sure to play the piano. Can't reach. You can't reach it. They'd probably give you a chair. Science, huh? Hmm.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Is it because there weren't lenses big enough for a tall man or something back then? Couldn't they just film him all sitting down a lot? Matt Stewart, ladies in the other hand. I'm not going to move any close. not going to move any closer. Oh, come. I love... Lenders weren't tall enough back then.
Starting point is 00:29:49 How did they film the Empire State Build? Well, they could have filmed this dude from far away. He persisted and eventually in 1947, a couple of years in, he was cast in his first film. A British movie called... Matt is finding a chair. Mate, if you're not going to take a seat, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Have you paid? You prefer it from the audience. Do we look good up here? Do we look it up here? He said we look hot. I came down in to stop talking. So I was telling everyone that he got cast in his first film,
Starting point is 00:30:45 Corridor Ramirez, but you're thinking, but he's way too tall. While the director got around his height by sitting him at a table. Hang on, hang on. Have you been here this whole time not believing we're in the room? Is this news to you?
Starting point is 00:31:02 She can't not stare at Matt. He's been here, whole time. He looks like your brother. Oh my god. Good. Anyway Dave, too go on. Yeah, half a cider. She gets mean then. It's weird. If you, you get close to me out, I look a lot like your mum. I'll stay up here. So first film guys, he's got, he's off, he's right, he's got the acting bug and in the first year he appeared in eight films. Whoa. He's doing it right. He basically wouldn't slow down for the rest of his life from that point. He continued to play background characters for the next 10 years into his mid to late 30s,
Starting point is 00:31:58 but he considered this time to be his acting apprenticeship because at the time he had no idea what he was doing. Being on set, he watched and listened to the other actors, picked up some tips, and then he was finally ready to say nothing. Because his big break was playing Frankenstein's monster in his 40th film. 40th?
Starting point is 00:32:18 40th film. That's a nice number though. 40th. 40th film in 10 years. Oh, okay, yeah. That's a good innings. It was the 1957 film The Curse of Frankenstein. In the film, Lee played Frankenstein's Monster,
Starting point is 00:32:32 and Peter Cushing played Baron Victor Frankenstein. It was the first film to co-star Lee and Cushing, who would go on to co-star in 20 films together. And this would turn out to be Lee's breakthrough because his role as Frankenstein's monster led him to be cast as Count Dracula in the 1958 film, Count Dracula. I'll get to that bit, sir.
Starting point is 00:32:58 They're a chatty crowd. Yeah. Oh my God. It's weird. Dracula was a role that Lee occupied so well that his portrayal became synonymous with the character's appearance in popular culture. So if you imagine an archetypal Dracula right now,
Starting point is 00:33:12 chances are you're imagining Christopher Lee. He's just the guy. He also added what has been described as a dark, brooding sexuality to the character. Oh, Matt. Journalist and historian Tim Stanley wrote that, quote, Lee's sensuality was subversive
Starting point is 00:33:30 in that it hinted that women might quite like having their neck chewed on by a stud. No. I speak for all women. No. That's fucking weird. Yeah, don't chew on it. That's gross. All slobbery.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Get off, what are you doing? Anyway. Well, you'd be surprised under the film was a real hit and made Lee famous. He started many other films afterwards and continued to be prolific with his output. In 1965, six years later, he was asked to star in a sequel to Dracula, Dracula Prince of Darkness. And this film, Dracula is completely silent,
Starting point is 00:34:09 with Lee later stating this is because he read the script and hated it so much that he refused to say he's lying. Lee later said, quote, I said to the film company, Hammer, if you think I'm going to say any of these lines, you're very much mistaken. So they just made his character silent. Screenwriter Jimmy Sankster, who wrote the script,
Starting point is 00:34:31 disputed this saying that he didn't want the character to speak at all, later writing that, Vampires don't chat. So I didn't write any dialogue. They don't chat, they chew. Yeah. But the film was another hit, and it led to more sequels. Many more.
Starting point is 00:34:44 All up, Lee starred as Dracula in 11 films, including cameos, seven of which were in the Dracula series. 11. 11. I'm sorry. All right, he starred in 20 Dracula movies. Matt, can you come back? Because without you here, I have to listen the whole time.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I can't zone. We're going to pick one member of the crowd to join us on stage. Oh, this guy. Don't do it. Don't. That's a really bad idea. Okay. Yeah, that's sick down there.
Starting point is 00:35:37 That's real good. I look like that lady's brother. And it was freaking me out. More the reaction than anything. Yeah, so he's a blood sucker, but it sounds like... No, he's her brother. Okay. He's ginger.
Starting point is 00:36:00 You don't have ginger people here. Obviously, apart from her brother's. Is this your family, the ones with their heads in their hands? Extended. Oh right, so you're not the mum that I look like. No. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:16 It's actually a step-cousin. Second? He does. Yeah. What are the odds that I would have picked that chair? There's one there. Could have taken that one there, that one there. Honestly, I think I've started something
Starting point is 00:36:32 that's not going to be able to turn around. We don't believe you, by the way. Prove it. Sorry about everything. So he kept playing Dracula and he played the last character, the last... Dracula's last time 15 years later
Starting point is 00:36:53 and he was super over it. Speaking at a press conference to announce the film, Lee said, I'm doing it under protest. I can think of 20 adjectives. fatuous, pointless, absurd. It's not a comedy, but it's got a good comic title. I don't see the point.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And this is him trying to promote the movie. I love that word, fatuous. Fatuous. He loves it. Fatuous. Sounds good, though. Sounds lovely. I may be saying it wrong.
Starting point is 00:37:18 You'll probably be surprised to know that after his ringing endorsement, the film flopped. So he didn't have to do it anymore. During these years, he also starred in tens of other films, having been in 118 movies by 1916. Two more. Don't worry, he's going to do a lot more. So 15 years and he's done nearly 120 films. He played other monsters and villains, including The Mummy,
Starting point is 00:37:40 Fumanchu, and Gregori Rasputin, the man whose killers he'd met as a boy. Oh my God. It was all research. It's crazy. How method did he go? Yeah. How magic.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Finish it? No, it wasn't. You'll know when you see it. You had a... Someone just said regret penis. And I don't know how he knew, but... Okay. They are, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Someone said, someone came to a show in Australia a few months ago, and I said, I couldn't... The biggest thing I took away from the show was, how skinny are Matt's pins? That was the biggest thing they took away from the show. They weren't listening at all. Otherwise, the biggest thing would have been your amazing comedy skills.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Hey, you're... You were racing for me to be mean. Yeah. It's a good instinct. Your legs actually look a lot like my brother. It's outrageous. Don't freak out. I've got photos.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I don't even have a brother. He also appeared in three Sherlock Holmes films, but he played a different character in each. He played Henry Baskerville in the hand of the Baskerville's, then Sherlock himself, and then Sherlock's brother, Mycroft. He actually looked a lot like...
Starting point is 00:39:04 That took me a sec to get it. He had auditioned for the part in a film called The Longest Day in 1962, but he was turned down because he did not, quote, look enough like a military man, despite 100% being a military man. In 1970, Lee had a role as the on-screen narrator in Jesse Franco's film Eugenie. He did the film as a favour to the film's producer.
Starting point is 00:39:37 What he didn't know was that it was a soft-core porn movie. I guess he didn't read the full title of the film, which is Eugenie. Dot, dot, dot, dot. The story offered journey into perversion. So we went from Bloodsucker to... Et cetera. In an interview with the telegraph, he record the film. He said, quote,
Starting point is 00:40:02 I had no idea what it was when I agreed to the role. I flew out to Spain for one day's work, playing the part of the narrator. I had to wear a crimson dinner jacket. I mean, there's a telltale. There were lots of... Dinerware. Sexy, sexy dinnerware.
Starting point is 00:40:18 There were lots of people behind me. They all had their clothes on. They didn't seem to be anything peculiar or strange. Later on, he'd totally forgotten about being in the film until a friend asked him about it and said, I think it's a porno. So he went to see it for himself. This is again from the interview.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Quote, so I crept along there, heavily disguised in dark glasses and a scarf, and found the cinema, and there was my name. He's still six foot five. Oh, who's that? He's wearing a scarf. It couldn't be Christopher Lee. He said, I was furious.
Starting point is 00:40:53 What I had left Spain that day, everyone behind me had taken their clothes off. In 1974, he starred as a villain and the title character, Francisco Scaramunga, aka the man with a golden gun, the James Bond film, based on the book by his step-cous, Ian Fleming.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Fleming had reportedly offered Lee the title role in the first Sean Connery Bond Doctor No, but it didn't work out. what I read there was that Ian was offering a part that he did not have the right to offer. They just cast someone else. I'm still thinking about this, porno.
Starting point is 00:41:30 How do you narrate a porno? Not knowing it's a porno. How soft call was it? And what does that mean? What is soft... Anyway, something I can Google later, but... Something I've always wondered.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Is that the kind of thing your brother has also... He started as the best... Why did I bring her in again? He started... What's your name? Melanie. Melanie.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Let's talk later. But Melanie is my sister's name. Could it be? So he's in the Bond movie. He starred as the best and most highly paid assassin in the world commanding a million dollars per hit. And whilst Lee wasn't quite paid that well in the movie, his highest-paying film until his later years,
Starting point is 00:42:42 getting over £40,000 for his appearance. Despite this, he lamented the bonds get the big money, and they save on the heavies. All right, mate. It wasn't enough. The bombs get the big money. In a James Bond film. Oh, they pay him more.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Yeah, no shit, dickhead. The film is called The Man with a Golden Gun, and I'm the man with the fucking Golden Gun. If I don't go on, there's no show. I'm the titular man. I do enjoy the same titular. I love to love the word softball. What a fatuous remark.
Starting point is 00:43:18 In the 80s, Lee played Charles Henry Sanson, the executioner in France, who beheaded over 3,000 people using the guillotine, including King Louis XVI. Again, his younger years of witnessing the guillotine came back to help his acting. It's crazy. This whole time and throughout the rest of his life,
Starting point is 00:43:35 Christopher Lee was supported by his wife, Gitt. I knew it enjoy that. Her full name was Burghit. What? She's Danish. I was saying boo-git. I say nearly everything I think. You can't tell.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Before meeting Git, he had been engaged to another woman, the Swedish Henrietta von Rosen, who was the daughter of a powerful count in Sweden. He made Lee jump through hoops to get his daughter's hand in marriage. Literally. Yeah. Well, basically. He did a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:28 He asked for references. He sent private investigators to follow Lee around. It was crazy. The final hoop was Lee had to get the permission of the King of Sweden to marry his daughter. For many people, this would be a very difficult task. But not for Christopher Lee. Of course, Lee had met the King of Sweden some years earlier whilst filming the Tales of Hands, Christian Anderson. And they were friends, so he was able to receive the blessing at no trouble.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Oh, my God. Sadly, the marriage did not work out and Lee went on to marry Danish painter and former model, Birgit, Gitt, Kronky in 1960. They married in 61, had a daughter, Christina in 63
Starting point is 00:45:05 and stayed together for the rest of his life. What was her surname? Kronker. The prettiest name of her name. Kronka. Gitt Kronka. Oh, it's beautiful. I hope she didn't drop the surname.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Yeah, I hope she's Gitt Kronka Lee. You got a hyphen-a. that shit. Oh, I like to travel get croncally. That was almost something. That's the kind of thing I would have said. And I loved it.
Starting point is 00:45:39 That was for you. No, no. Lee, I'm going to stand up for a little bit. He moved to Hollywood in 1977 for fear of being type cast as villains or monsters in movies. Until this time, he'd mostly appeared in British and European cinema.
Starting point is 00:45:54 But once in America, he continued to be prolific and appeared in dozens of film, but he really hit his stride in the U-2000 when he was cast as Saraman in the little old trilogy called The Lord of the Rings. Whoa. Who was he in that?
Starting point is 00:46:09 Saraman. I don't know why I thought I would know what that meant, but... It is funny that this man said 1939, a good year. 2000, silence. I will not. Lee was a Tolkien obsessive,
Starting point is 00:46:27 reportedly reading the novels at least once a year throughout his life and had long dreamt of playing Gandalf. In the 90s, Lee began purposely auditioning for wizard roles in TV and film just to get some experience and some credits.
Starting point is 00:46:43 He heard they were making the film and he was like, all right, I've got to show him on a gun. I want to get typecast as a wizard. In 1997, he landed the role... 97 was alright. He landed the role of Wizard Olwen in the critically paned TV series. the new adventures of Robin Hood.
Starting point is 00:47:02 He said, quote, the only reason I did that was to show anyone who was watching that I could play a wizard and that I would be ideal casting for the Lord of the Rings. Then the movie was officially announced. Lee even sent director Peter Jackson
Starting point is 00:47:13 a photo of himself dressed up as a wizard. He didn't attach a letter or anything. It was just a picture. Apparently, he passed it off as a joke. That's not... I just muck him, just muck him. No, it isn't... Unless you want me to.
Starting point is 00:47:31 general serious but if not just mucking around but in the year 2000 he was already 78 2 was considered too old and had to settle for Saraman as the role of Gandalf required horseback riding and way more fighting
Starting point is 00:47:46 isn't it crazy to be considered too old to be playing a wise old wizard was a cutoff yeah what's the cut off Gandalf fought in that film that sounds sick Are you saying it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Because I'm cool. We've got a 26-hour flight home. I'm sure you could manage to squeeze them in, just. I'm busy. Yeah. Of course, Lee's childhood again informed his role for as a child, he once met the author, J.R. Tolkien. He was the only person that worked on the film that ever met him.
Starting point is 00:48:25 He met Tolkien by chance, later describing it, I met him with a group of other people in a pub in Oxford he used to go to, called the Eagle and Child, and he didn't waste the opportunity to meet the literary great. He asked him, how do you do? Nailed it. So when was Tolkien alive?
Starting point is 00:48:42 We did a report on him. Did we? You? I think you did it. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I think you did. Which one of us did it?
Starting point is 00:48:54 Matt did it? Did Matt do it? Did I really? Yeah. I have you already. I could not have told you that we'd done a topic. Are you sure you're not getting confused with it? I did Roll Dahl.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Rolled Dahl. Are you sure it wasn't her brother? Do we do it? Wow, I should listen back. Yeah, well, it was alive, you know, yeah. Yeah. It was alive around that time. So that checks out, as we know.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Oh my God. I'm having an existential crisis right now. I had no idea. Fuck. Are we okay? No. His role in Lord of the Rings revived Lee's career
Starting point is 00:49:45 and led him to be cast as Count Duku in episode two and three of the Star Wars movies. That's what you're thinking about. Yes, Count Duku of the Star Wars movies. I've definitely seen those, and I actually remember now, I saw Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I couldn't tell you a thing about it, but I don't remember Gandalf fighting in it, and I actually didn't see the end, because the end sort of, it was a fake out after fake thing, out with that end. You seen it? The third one, it felt like it ended, but it hadn't ended.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And then it felt like it had ended, but it hadn't ended. And I said, well, it's ended. But I think it kept going. I just left the room. It's still going now.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Starting in the 2000s, Lee also began to collaborating with Tim Burton, starring in five of his films. He was knighted in 2009 for his services to drama. So the 2000s was easily his most successful decade and he was in his 80s. Isn't that amazing? He was knighted for his services to drama
Starting point is 00:50:49 and he was told he can't act. Yeah. That's wild. What a legend. This guy's sick. This is the best report I've ever done. You'll forget it as soon as we walk through those curtains. Who's it about again?
Starting point is 00:51:03 But in his late 80s and 90s he added another string to his bow. Heavy metal. Seriously. In 2005, Lee was invited to perform a duet with Fabio Leon, one of the members of the band Rhapsody of Fire, and from there, he was off.
Starting point is 00:51:20 In 2010, he released his debut metal album called Charlemagne by the Sword and the Cross. It was a symphonic metal concept album that tells the story of Charlemagne, the first Holy Roman emperor and Lee's relative. Again, his background is informing the rest of his life. That might be one of the nerdiest metal albums ever. Oh, you don't know metal
Starting point is 00:51:43 That's great It was critically acclaimed And Lee won the Spirit of Metal Award In the Metal Hammer Golden Gods 2010 Which we all know We all know that His next album, Charlemagne The Omens of Death, was even heavier
Starting point is 00:52:02 He dropped the symphonic part It was just metal at this point The music was arranged by Richie Faulkner Who was associated from performing with Judas Priest There you go He released a couple of Christmas themed metal EP's
Starting point is 00:52:15 and the song Jingle Hell entered the Hot 100 chart at number 22 making him the oldest living performer to ever enter the music charts he charted at 91 years
Starting point is 00:52:32 91 years old Should we rename him Christmas leave? You'll get that in a future episode Oh man We had a meltdown Doing the Petroon read
Starting point is 00:52:46 In the hotel yesterday A joke for us. And I shouldn't have said it out loud, but... It will make sense soon. It is very funny. Look at this. That was on... Being an audio media and everyone knows that I nailed the thing I did.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Man, I don't want to interrupt you there, but sadly, all good things must come to an end. But what a life! That's wild. Christopher Lee died on the 7th of June 2015 at the Chelsea and Westminster Hospital less than four miles away from this venue. He passed just a couple of weeks after celebrating his 93rd birthday. His final on-screen role was in the... Sorry, he lived three years too long for you, Jess.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Or, hold on for two more. Ideally, seven more, really? Yeah, ideally. Yes, seven more. I want to die on my 100th birthday. That can be arranged. Thank you. His final... Dave's going to kill me.
Starting point is 00:53:52 How are you going to do it? I hope I don't go with you because I have to survive two more days for me to make it to 100. Imagine seeing an 100-year-old kill a mother. No, imagine seeing a 99-year-old kill a 100-year-old.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Oh, so close. So we can't film her on Louise at then. No. Because then you won't make it to 100. Hmm. Matt, you'll have to kill both of us. How old are you then? How old are you then?
Starting point is 00:54:22 will I be? Think of a number and double it. You are already too old to play Gandalf. I'm sorry to say. Lee's final on-screen role was in the Hobbit, the Battle of the Five Armies. They got him back for the Hobbit films. It was his 212th credited film appearance.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Fucking hell. Let me... Two less. And just to route things up, I have a few more fun facts to round out the life of Sir Christopher Lee. a fantastic laugh it was. Lee held the Guinness World record on 2007 for the most screen credits. At that point, and you made more after this, he had made appearances in 244 films and TV movies. So if I haven't mentioned your favourite Lee film, then I'm sorry, there's just so many.
Starting point is 00:55:09 That was basically me stopping tweets. Um, actually... I can't believe he didn't mention that film he did in 1971. So Christopher was a champion fencer. He showed this off on screen. It is a... He appeared in more on-screen sword jewels than any other actor in history. What? He even did, in the Lord of the Rings films, he did some of his own sword work. No, maybe Star Wars. Oh, Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:55:38 No, he did. He did some Star Wars. The only stuff they didn't let him do was the stuff from a wide angle. I guess it's harder to cheat. Who's the Lord of the Rings character that's older than Gandalf? Saragon. Sarragone. I mean, it's another thing I can look up later, but I can't picture it.
Starting point is 00:55:57 You'll look it up later and you'll go, oh. Oh, like that. Yeah, you'll do that. Much like. But he wasn't always the best with the sword. In 1955, during the filming of the movie, The Dark Avengers, Errol Flynn, fantastic Australian actor, got slightly drunk and in a sword fighting sequence cut Lee's hand so badly that his finger almost came off.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah, caught that England. Why was he drunk while they were filming? I'm pretty sure he was a raging alcoholic. The swash buckling arrow, Finn. Drunk? What? That makes me miss home. So he's cut his finger off. Following this, Lee struck Flynn's wig off while he was still wearing it.
Starting point is 00:56:42 You never strike another man's wig. Flynn, the star of the film, locked himself in his trailer and wouldn't come out until Lee told him that it was only an accident. proud to be Australian right now You've probably heard of the six degrees of Kevin Bacon That thing from a few years ago Where any star can be traced back to Kevin Bacon in six steps
Starting point is 00:57:09 Well in 2008, Guinness World Records declared Christopher Lee is the most connected actor in the world He was believed to be able to connect to any actor in Hollywood In just two and a half steps What's a half step? It's called an average people, look at... You guys just got schools Look at it...
Starting point is 00:57:29 Look at us. Don't kill me Finally When filming Lord of the Rings Lee gave the director Peter Jackson some very specific advice Jackson was blocking a scene in which Wormtong played by Brad Durif
Starting point is 00:57:44 Isn't that your nickname? Wormtong No I'm Worm Gullet In which he stabbed Sarriman played by Lee in the back Jackson went into a long explanation about how he wanted Lee to react and Lee just stopped him and said have you any idea what kind of noise
Starting point is 00:58:02 happens when somebody stabbed in the back because I do that's sick what a fucking wait Have you ever watched a man die Because I have Sit down Peter Let me act
Starting point is 00:58:23 Lee informed Jackson That it's more of a gasp Because quote the breath is driven out of your body Jackson later said Lee proceeded to sort of talk about some very clandestine part of World War II. This is still Peter Jackson. He seemed to have expert knowledge of exactly the sort of noise that they make.
Starting point is 00:58:40 So I just didn't push the subject any further. Again, his early years in the war had informed his acting. What a guy, Sir Christopher Lee. Dr Dave Warnocky, everybody. What's sick. Yeah. One of 18 people suggest that, including Jake Knight or what? Close?
Starting point is 00:59:12 Adam. Adam Knight. Was it night, though? No. Yes? No. We don't have to keep pointing at you. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:20 What's your pin number? No, don't worry about it. It's pin, not pin number. The N is already doing the work for the number, Jess. You just made a fool of yourself in front of all these people. I've been supporting you this whole time. That was ironic, but I just... Well, we've had some times tonight.
Starting point is 00:59:41 That does bring us to the end of the episode. Christopher, what a crazy, crazy life. Insane. Well done. Great report, Dave. Great report, Dave. A round of applause for David Warner Key. Thank you. Thank you. Big round of applause for Adam Knight at the back. Just Melanie down the front, my sister.
Starting point is 01:00:00 My real-life cousin is here as well, Isabel. Alessandra on sound. Thank you so much. Mark Chattely, who actually helped, he made this all possibly. brought us over here. So a big round of pause for Mark. We love you much. But thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Give yourselves a big round of applause. It's so cool to have you here. Thank you so, so much, London. And until next time, I'll say thank you and goodbye. And there you have it. Recorded live in London. Again, thanks to everyone for coming out and supporting us on the UK tour. It was truly the best time of our lives.
Starting point is 01:00:52 It is Dave here, by the way. Not the one that looks like that girl's brother. That's Matt. The one that looks like her mother, I think I was talking about in the episode. But yeah, thanks so much for listening to the episode. Now, you may know that this show is supported by the good people at patreon.com slash do go on pod, the people that support the show through Patreon. And if you would like to become a patron of, or Patron, as we sometimes say, of our podcast,
Starting point is 01:01:20 you can go to patreon.com slash do go on pod right now and pledge to support the show every single month. And we put out two bonus episodes every month. We're going to be putting out a couple from the UK tour that no one else will hear. We'll be coming up soon. In January, I imagine we'll be having our annual Do Go On Awards coming up, the Golden Shiny Gary Awards, which will be our third annual one. So yeah, we put out one bonus report every month and then one other fun variety show. So sometimes it's a quiz, sometimes we have a chat, sometimes people send us questions,
Starting point is 01:01:52 and sometimes we create a whole new show just for that week. So that's a lot of fun. you can listen to those episodes and also support the show through Patreon and also join the Facebook group where we, you know, people talk about the show, which is a lot of fun in there. It's taken on a life of its own. We don't really need to do anything in there anymore. There's so many people talking that, yeah, it's become its own little thing. A few people have become friends through that, which is really, really nice.
Starting point is 01:02:17 And also we give shout-outs to people. But before we do that, we have to go through the fact, quote, or question, which has a theme song that I will attempt. Fact quote or question. Ding! There it is. And this is the part of the show where people that support us on the
Starting point is 01:02:36 Sydney Shineberg, rest in peace, deluxe package level, which is the premium tier on Patreon, they get to write in with a fact, quote, or question, and also give themselves a title, which is nice. And this week, Sam Cross is our first entrant
Starting point is 01:02:52 with the fact quote or question. Thank you so much. Sam, who has given themselves the name the great and almost magical red Sam Cross. Wow, what a title. I absolutely love it. Now, you get to give a fact, quote or question, and just reading slightly ahead here, as I'm doing it Matt and haven't read it in advance. Sam's given us a fact, but also a question, two in one. Appreciate that, Sam.
Starting point is 01:03:15 You're not wasting your time here on the platform. Fact and a question. The question or fact starts with, the inventor of the Frisbee was cremated, and he's asked you. and these ashes were made into a frisbee after he died. Wow. Sam's question is, what would you get your ashes made into?
Starting point is 01:03:33 Oh my goodness. I know you can get them made into diamond rings. You know, they say those things sort of last forever. Is it weird to say a pie? Yeah, that's weird. Someone would eat the pie. I obviously love pies, but I don't want anyone eating my ashes. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:03:48 What about a lovely pot that you could put a beautiful tree in that way? because sometimes people put, they get cremated and then they become the tree. But then trees often die, especially in a cemetery or whatever. You know, you plant the tree in the ashes and then they live for 10 more years. But if you're a pot and hear me out like a beautiful ceramic pot, that could last centuries and you could just keep replacing the plant when it died. Was that a satisfying answer, Sam? Was it either pick pie if you want to go with a weird one, pot if you want to go with an off-track,
Starting point is 01:04:22 sincere one? Thank you so much, Sam. the Great and Almost Magical Red. And one more fact to quote a question of this week is Michael Derizzi, who probably doesn't need a title because that's such a great name. But Michael Derizzi says, his title is the unofficial, sorry, official, unofficial homie of Patrick Mahomes, brackets. He's the star quarterback of my favorite NFL team,
Starting point is 01:04:45 the Kansas City Chiefs. Right. So the official, unofficial homie of Patrick Mahomes from the Kansas City Chiefs. I love it. Fantastic. Thank you so much Michael Deerzy. I've been thinking about
Starting point is 01:04:59 picking an NFL team. I picked an NBA team a couple of years ago. I picked the New Orleans Pelicans as a bit of a joke because I thought their mascot was the silliest one that they had available. And now they
Starting point is 01:05:10 had the number one draft pick with Zion. People are talking about how they, in a couple years, might actually be a great team. So I got on board at the right time, but just know that I'm not a bandwagon. I got on when they were not doing very well.
Starting point is 01:05:23 and Anthony Davis was the only good player there and I thought the team was the funniest one but anyway Kansas City Chiefs that's a pretty good one but is that the silliest NFL team what's the silliest I really like the Raiders the Oakland Raiders logo because he has an eyepatch which I think is quite cool but maybe tweet me at Dave Warnocky what's the silliest NFL team I'll pick one
Starting point is 01:05:44 I will pick one anyway Michael de Rizzi the official unofficial homie of Patrick Mahomes has also given us a fact and it is about his beloved home state of Kansas. Thank you so much for writing in. Kansas, my home state is home to the world's largest ball of twine. If that's not exciting enough, no, it is. It is.
Starting point is 01:06:02 It's 7,974,454 feet of twine rolled into a big ball. That is amazing. Wow. And a little addendum here from Michael. P.S., I understand why Kansas doesn't get much attention. It's because it's a boring fucking place. No, that's not true at all. You get the shout out into the Wizard of Oz.
Starting point is 01:06:25 No other state gets that. Thank you, Michael Derizzi. Do you have the world's largest cat to play with that giant ball? If not, many cats will be crushed. Appreciate your support, Sam and Michael Derizzi. Now, it's time to move on to the other section of the Patreon read at the end of the show, where we shout out to six people that support the show through Patreon. And we usually play a game here where we sign them in a title or a name or something like that.
Starting point is 01:06:52 What I've got here is, because we talked about the great Christopher Lee there, in his 250-plus movie and TV roles. I've brought up his Wikipedia page for Christopher Lee's filmography for his TV and film characters. I'm going to scroll through this and at random give you a Christopher Lee character name, because there are some incredible ones here, some incredible names here. So thank you so much. First of all, from, let me shout out to from, Boston, Massachusetts.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Did I say it right? Massachusetts. What does Matt say? Massachusetts. Anyway, Massachusetts. I've nailed that, right. First go. Eric Stenach.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Eric Stenark. Thank you so much for supporting the show. Over in Boston, Eric. And your official Christopher Lee character, pretending this is some sort of a random character generator, you are the character, Philippe Darvis. Philippe Darvis,
Starting point is 01:07:50 from the 1960s. film, Theatre of Death, a British horror film. Well, there you go. Philippe Dharvis. That was his 87th film role. What a guy. Thank you so much to our Philippe Dharvis, Eric Stenak. I would also like to thank from Northern Ireland in London Derry, Chris Morin.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Chris, thank you so much for supporting the show, Chris. Let me give you your random character. Oh, wow, you are Baron von Storb. Baron Bond Storb, who's from The Devil's Agent, 1962 film, co-productive between Britain, West Germany and the Republic of Ireland. There you go. Based on a novel by Hans Haib. Fantastic, the Devil's Agent Baron von Storb, aka Chris Moran.
Starting point is 01:08:41 I would like to thank now a person who needs only one name. They are from Lower Hut in New Zealand, and that is Mel. Thank you so much for you support Mel, the one and only. We know the Mel. We know the right one. skipping forward here, I am going to give you the nickname of Commandant Alexandre Nikolovich Rakov. What an amazing name, which is a 1994 comedy movie called, oh, it's from Police Academy Mission to Moscow. There you go from 1994, one of the sequels, the seventh and final film, and most critically acclaimed in the Police Academy films, the one that killed the series that no one thought would die.
Starting point is 01:09:21 from 1994 commandant Alexandre Nikolovich Rakov. Incredible names. Incredible names here. Thanks, Mel. I would also like to thank from York in North Yorkshire. Not far from Leeds where we were
Starting point is 01:09:37 a couple of weeks ago now. Johnny Ollis. Johnny Ollis? Maybe you're at the show. Thank you so much for your support. I would like to give you your random character. Let's go through here.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Count Ludwis. Count Ludwig Karnstein, from Terror in the Crypt, a 1964 Italian Spanish horror film, also called Crypt of the Vampire and Crypt of Horror. Count Ludwig Karnstein. Fantastic. Love those names. Thank you so much from North Yorkshire, Johnny Ollis. We would like to thank now from London, England, where this episode was recorded.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Maybe you were there, Larissa Murray. Thank you so much, Larissa Murray, for your support of the show. And let's give you a nickname now. How about Prince Baldazar? Prince Baldazar from the 1981 film The Salamander. 1984 thriller film directed by Peter Zinner. Fantastic. From the Salamander, Prince Baldazar, Larissa Murray.
Starting point is 01:10:50 And finally, another Englishman now from Liverpool. Paul in England, I would like to shout out and thank Matthew Doyle. Matthew Doyle. Thank you so much for your support of the show, Matthew Doyle. Let's bring it home strong here. Let's find a fantastic name. Well, he did a lot of people with titles. I will tell you that, from a tale of two cities, which I imagine is an adaptation of the Charles
Starting point is 01:11:17 Dickens, it is 1958 movie Marquis Saint Evermond. Marquis Saint Evermond. I've just seen another one here. Resurrection Joe. Which one do you want? They're both good. That's from Corridors of Blood, 1958 film.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Two movies he did that year. Two very different characters I imagine. Marquis, Saint Evermond or Resurrection Joe. Take your pick there. Matthew Doyle. Thank you so much for supporting the show. Well, that brings us to the end of another episode of Dugo on. Thank you so much for joining us.
Starting point is 01:11:51 We'll be back next week with another episode, which Australian time is going to come out on Christmas Day. So maybe you don't celebrate Christmas or you're going on a big drive or perhaps you just need something to put on after the terror that is, the exhaustion that is a Christmas lunch, the terror. I mean, how much pudding can you eat? So you can put that on next week on Christmas Day. But until then, thank you so much for listening to the show.
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