Two In The Think Tank - 220 - The Eruption of Mount St. Helens

Episode Date: January 8, 2020

On May 18, 1980, Mount St. Helens erupted for the first time in over one hundred years, causing immense destruction. The blast generated about 500 times the force of the atomic bomb dropped ...on Hiroshima and obliterated the mountain. This episode follows the build up to America's most powerful natural disaster, and the people caught up within it. Matt is performing his new show MONKEY HOUSE is on in HOBART on January 9th and 10th, BRISBANE March 10-15 and MELBOURNE March 26-April 19, find more details/get tickets here: https://mattstewartcomedy.com/gigs (use the code 'podcast' for a special listener discount)Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comCheck out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:The Smithsonian Channel: Make It Out Alive: Mount St. Helenshttps://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10156553507463357https://www.britannica.com/place/Mount-Saint-Helenshttps://apnews.com/8262f08726b0fdc333fe10e02b596814https://www.amusingplanet.com/2019/01/the-photographers-who-braved-mount-st.htmlhttps://www.livescience.com/27553-mount-st-helens-eruption.htmlhttps://huckberry.com/journal/posts/robert-landsburg-s-brave-final-shotshttps://volcanoes.usgs.gov/observatories/cvo/david_johnston.html

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Starting point is 00:01:56 in months, not years. Take classes online or on campus, and financial aid is available to qualified students, including the GI Bill. Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mites. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnicki and I'm sitting here in a house in London with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hello! Hello! We're in London, baby. I don't know how many times over the past three years I've had to tell you this. We're not in London, baby. No, this time we are in London. I've been saying it every week. For four years, we're finally in London, baby.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yes, we are in London, baby. And it's a suburb just outside London, London baby. It's lovely. It's lovely here. For context, we are halfway through the tour when we're recording this. We did our show in Bristol last night. Yes. We're driven up to London today.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yes. I did the driving. And you smashed the driving. Yeah, the car is ruined. Yeah, but Unless the rental company is watching that it's absolutely fine. What do you mean tip top Nick? Could not be any better. Don't even look at it. If anything I've improved it. Yeah, I got under the hood did some modifications I fixed things so any park it so well and we appreciate that because it meant that I didn't have to park it. Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:46 We would hate for that to have to happen But yeah, we're halfway through the tour. It's going really well. The shows have been really fun We've met lots of nice people and we're very tired name one one nice person Judy Really, oh, I was thinking you know, I was thinking of Trent Trent was awesome. Yeah, yeah, Trent was really nice You know one then Scott was thinking of Trent. Trent was awesome, yeah, yeah. Trent was really nice. You know him one then. Scott was a lovely man. No.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Sorry, Scott. Sorry, Scott. I thought you were nice. Scott knows what he did. Yeah. Scott, he doesn't know. So don't tell Scott, he. Well, you get a little letter point there.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Expand of new listeners what this show is about, Dave. Well, if you just stumbled across this show, we've been told to listen to it without any context. What we usually do here is take it in turns to report on a topic suggested by a listener. And it is my turn to report on a topic that Matt and Jess don't know what it's going to be about. And we love it when you report. So last night at our Bristol show, I did the report. And at one point, Matt and I had a little mini fight on stage.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And a guy came up to me afterwards and he said, yeah, great report, that was really fun. But it's better when the SaaS twins work together. I was like, all right, I mean, we just made a joke. I told, I said that you talked over me when I'd talked over you. It was a fun joke. That was a good bit.
Starting point is 00:05:11 It's a good bit. Probably. We were working together to create laughter. But anyway, my point was that when Dave does a report, bat and I get to just sit back, relax, and sass. And talk over me. Yeah. OK, now we always get on topic.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Well, I'll stop you right there. Yeah, good on you. Keep it up. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. We always get on topic with the asking of a question. Yes. You might put my question.
Starting point is 00:05:38 You're in the land of Shakespeare and you're starting to talk like him. I imagine. Because I don't think there are any real recordings of him. Do I not bleed? Oh, that's one of his. That's one of his very best. Now, my question to you, me? Yes, and you, yes.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And me? Now, I've been accused of doing a lot of reports and disasters lately. And I say, infrared penny, infrared penny. There's another one. My question is, which volcano erupted on May 18, 1980 1980 Do you know this one was it in a film? I know there were two films that came out about the same time
Starting point is 00:06:13 Were they based on real events you think of Dante's peak Dante's peak and another one was called a volcano Forget eruption or something doesn't matter. Where was it Dave? Hawaii? No, it is in America though. In America. Mainland America. How? Lalalaland?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Because that's where Dante's peak was filmed. I don't know of any that recent. Hmm, I don't think I'm going to know this. No, I'm not going to know either. Well, I'll say the first, there's two words here. It's Mount Saint Helen. Helen! Yes, Mount Saint Helen! Oh,'m gonna know this. No, I'm not gonna know either. Well, I'll say the first, there's two words here. It's Mount St. Helen. Helen's, yes, Mount St. Helen. Oh, you did know it.
Starting point is 00:06:50 No, I just, I've heard those words together. And, but you're not aware that that is a volcano. No idea. I'm pretty sure that's a cafe near my house. Wow, that is a weird thing to name your cafe after. I think it might just be St. Helen. Oh, okay, so this is Mount St. Helen's. I've it might just be St. Helen. Oh, okay. So this mounts and Helen's I've added the mount one of the I
Starting point is 00:07:07 Sorry, so I think you met the difference was that they just took the S often. You're like, that's fine Mounce and Helen no relation. Yeah, no, it's pure acquaintance. I'd search Dante's peak and and it came up with an auto filter and other volcano And the other volcano movie is called volcano. I mean, I pulled it out of the box. That's super easy for you to forget. Yeah, it's hiding in plain sight. Yeah. And now this topic was selected by the Patreon supporters. So we thank them for voting. Thank you. It was a runaway runaway vote this one. Smash the other two topics, which I also thought were very good potential stuff, but this was the only disaster. So in a way if you think I'm doing too many disasters
Starting point is 00:07:48 blame the page for all this. Because sometimes recently it's been really really it's a bit of tight race with the page trail. But it's super close yeah. So it's kind of nice to have a clear winner. You know they definitely wanted this one and these are the people that suggested the topic and if you want to suggest a topic there's a little link in the description of this episode you can go to our website do go on pod.com and I picked it out of the hat suggested by four beautiful people and they are Roy Phillips from Borum Ward in Hertfordshire Probably not that far from here. No, no that sounded real Antonio daily from Lofton in Essex. That's also not real. That is also not very far from Essex.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Lofton in Essex. That's also not real. That is also not very far from Essex. Lofton in Essex. Lofton. Lofton. By the way, Travis Alexander from Gulfport, Mississippi. Ah, Travis Alexander. One Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:08:34 There's a lot of Mississippi's, which one to say from? Number four. Okay. He nearly got there. And finally from Victoria, British Columbia and Canada, Darcy Williamson. Ah, Dee Willie. Willie there. I don't have you on board. So thanks to those people. Brijsk Columbia in Canada, Darcy Williamson. Uh, Dee Willie.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Willie there? The review on, on board. So thanks to those people. Now, so you guys don't know too much about this topic that I imagined. You may have heard of it. No, unless there was one of those moves that was based on it. Because I definitely saw Dante's peak.
Starting point is 00:08:57 The only thing I've seen are remember from Dante's peak is where the grandma sacrifices herself, jumps into like a boiling water, because they're both stuck, and she has to get them to the shoreline. guess where the grandma sacrifices herself jumps into like a boiling water and because they're both stuck and she has to get them to the shoreline. She jumps in and it's way towards the end and then she dies from horrific burns. What a fucking legend. What a spoiler. Thanks. Oh I'm sorry that I ruined Dante's peak. You ruined Dante's peak for me. Well, how do you know it's from 1997?
Starting point is 00:09:29 Is that true? Yes. Well, there you go. I remember two things about it. The year it came out and the scene where the grandma sacrifices herself to save the other. Thank you. I tried to spoil that.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Fuck you. You ruined my favorite film that I've not seen. But you were shooting it with me. You were shooting it with me. I was saying it on the first birthday. My 21st birthday. Your 21st is going to be a screening of Dante's birthday. Yes, and now it's ruined. We should all watch it tonight.
Starting point is 00:09:56 What are you reckon? Yeah, be good. Or you've just got Volcano playing B. Yeah, oh Dave, why don't you fucking spoil that one for me. Uh, a Volcano kills people. Oh my god Dave, I was being sarcastic you monster. Uh, the twist is that the volcano was inside us all along. The real disaster here was Dave and his filthy mouth spewing hot lava literally.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Mmm sorry. Literally. Oh my god. Yeah. We are filming this as well. So if people go to the YouTube channel, I'll be able to see Dave literally spewing hot lava. Yeah, wow. I forget Evan's not here to edit.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Evan's editing post. Okay, so Mounts and Hellens is a volcano in the Cascade mountain range in Washington state. It can be found 50 miles or 80 kilometers north east of Portland, Oregon, and I know six miles or 154K south of Seattle, Washington. I mean, I do appreciate that for reference, Oregon, and I have six miles or 154K south of Seattle, Washington. I mean, I do appreciate that for reference, but it still doesn't help me play.
Starting point is 00:10:49 So, top left corner. Great. And trailblazers are from Portland, the basketball teams. Is that what they're named after? Well, they like lava blazers of trail in a way. I think they'd be much older than this, 19 out of the eruption.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Interesting. There you go. History's fascinating. Isn't it? To me, time isn't linear. No. You know, it's all occurring at once, and we're all like thoughts of our own imagination or some shit.
Starting point is 00:11:15 That's what it is. That's what it means to me, but I, you know, I think pretty deeply. You're a deep, deep man. I'm wearing a t-shirt with a leaf on it and I think that rings true right now. And that t-shirt is almost covering you. Yeah, I've eaten and drunk quite a bit on this trip. Oh, you're not the brutal, but an only public way of letting me know I've put on a couple of kegs.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I could not see from my angle, so I was just like, what are you talking about? I mean to say that I could see from every angle. Oh wow, okay. You could say right up my chuff, which is my belly button. Everyone's chuff is different. Mine's my left ear. Wow, wow, it's beautiful chuff. Every chuff is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Yeah, it's own special special way. Every chuff is sacred. Mounsen Helen's gets his English name from the British diplomat Lord St. Helens, a friend of explorer George Van Coover, who the city of Vancouver is named up. Oh, that makes sense. I didn't know that. George Van Coover.
Starting point is 00:12:15 George Van Coover sounds made up. It does have a, oh no. George Van Coover. It's funny, I'm like, oh, St. Helens, obviously they've named it after some saint called Helen's, but it was about, it was after some, some Lord. Some saint called Helen's. Yes. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yeah, multiple sathos they went, we could name it after one. Yeah, sure. But why not? How do you choose a favorite St Helen, you know? Yeah. So many good ones. Can't ever down. Yeah, my favorite one is the one that eight berries.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yes. I love her. Not just because of berries, but also just philosophies. Yeah. She had a can-do attitude. One of their miracles was she was able to blend berries into a smoothie before blend has had been invented. Yeah. She did it with her mind. She was a witch, they burned her. It's a fine line between saying which, depending on who's looking at her. Because yeah, you go, no, God made me do this and they go, mmm, okay. Did he, did the devil? Oh, but we don't like this one.
Starting point is 00:13:21 We want to excuse to throw off the cliff. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's dark territory. Is it? Underciege 2, dark territory. Is that it? Is that it? Yeah, it's a simple one. Oh, I'm going to siege to, I'm going to siege one, fantastic. I was going to siege two, also fantastic. Really? Yeah, that one, they're on a bus. They're on a train. And a train. So good. Well, I can't wait to hear about this story. Oh, Mounson Hellens is part of the Pacific Ring of Fire.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Pacific Ring of Fire too. Sorry, I missed pronounce that. That includes over 160 active volcanoes. And Mounson Hellens has a long recorded history of eruption, but also long periods of dormancy. For example, when it erupted in 1480, that was the first time it had gone off in 700 years. That is unlucky for people who were there that day. You're there that day. That's a one in 700 year occurrence. Volcanoes give you much notice that they're going to erupt. As we're about to find out. Yes. Oh. So basically, it would erupt, come down for a few decades,
Starting point is 00:14:25 some of my centuries, and then erupt again before repeating the cycle. Right. Sometimes, but it would be dormant for hundreds of years at a time. By 1980, the year we're talking about, it had been dormant for one hundred and twenty three years. The parks around the mountain was welcoming 500,000 people a year at the time, setting the stage for disaster. Oh, no. So it's been dawned for 123 years, but then on March 15th, 1980, the giant beast began to show signs that it was starting to stir. Like when you wake up and your tummy's grumbling. And you're about to go off for the first time in 123 years. Yeah, like that. Built up quite a lot by that point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yes, go off clean. Bar, all the way. Yes, and you nailed it. Thank you. Clean. Our seismographs, which are instruments used to detect and record earthquakes and volcanic activity, were only installed in 1972.
Starting point is 00:15:20 But within eight years, they really pay for themselves. Because these seismographs measured a series of minor earthquakes that indicated something was happening. These earthquakes began to build over the following days, with over 100 earthquakes being measured before peaking on March 25th. Five was going to say five, and then I went with fifth.
Starting point is 00:15:39 With an earthquake that measured 5.1 on the Richter scale, which is quite large. OK. Aerial observations from planes and helicopters earthquake that measured 5.1 on the Richter scale, which is quite large. Aerial observations from planes and helicopters revealed new fractures in the surrounding glaciers and numerous rock slides occur. A lot of activities kicking off here. Decent earthquake. A lot of monitoring going on, but early on there was debate in the scientific community as to whether these minor earthquakes actually indicated an impending eruption or it was just routine rumblings. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:09 So people were like, nah, mate, it's gonna be fun. It's all right. From time to time, you get a few rumblings, but it's not gonna over-upped. But other people were like, we gotta evacuate people. She's gonna blow! She's gonna blow, yeah. They're two very different views.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yeah, two very, very different views. I reckon if people are arguing over that, you'd go, let's go with the conservative. He played save, right? You get him out, get people out. Now one of the people who believes that the mountain might blow, it was volcanologist, David A. Johnston.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Oh, played by PS Brosnan. Yes, probably. And his mother sacrifices herself, about 47 minutes into the film. Sorry about that just You know that you're not sorry at all you keep bringing it up It's like the old but it's like when you say you're sorry. It's like it sounds pretty sarcastic. It does mean I'll never do it again But he else has in sprold the first 46 minutes. Yeah, you have 46 minutes of enjoyment. Yeah, 46 minutes of really getting to Love that grandma character. No, she's gonna die the whole time.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Piece of shit. Sorry about that. Well, it was filming in 1997. She's almost definitely dead now. Oh, we can take some solace in that. What are you saying? She's always heavily really dead now. Yeah, does it make it better or worse?
Starting point is 00:17:19 I don't know. David A. Johnson, he's one of the characters that we'll talk about a lot in this piece. It was born in Chicago in 1949. The Windy City. And in 1971 he graduated from the University of Illinois with highest honors in distinction in geology. His obsession with volcanology took him across the US and he later completed a PhD at the University of Washington. His work on volcanic gases brought him to the US Ge he later completed a PhD at the University of Washington.
Starting point is 00:17:45 His work on volcanic gases brought him to the US Geological Survey in 1978, where he was assigned to expand the program for monitoring volcanic emissions in Alaska and the Cascade Range. So he's building up his CV here. Part of the aim of the program was to work out changes in gas chemistry and whether that provides clues of impending corruptions or not. And when this started happening at Mouzen Hallons, David Hadjostin was one of the first geologists on the scene. He was part of a team of scientists, sent to investigate the potential volcanic activity. And he's turned
Starting point is 00:18:17 up. He's one of the people that says, yes, I reckon this is going to blow and blow hard. He didn't think it was going gonna be a very good time. No, this is gonna blow. This party blows. Let's get out of here. David, this isn't a party. This blows. David is described in the United States Geological Survey
Starting point is 00:18:38 website as quote, David was unaffectedly genuine with an infectious curiosity and enthusiasm. But perhaps his most essential quality was the ability to dissipate cynicism. He looked for saw and thereby encouraged the best in all of us. Was. Yeah, I was as well. He dies tonight. Well, this happened 39 years ago, so he's almost certainly dead tonight. Tonight. Okay, but I reckon he dies in the eruption.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Also, side question was Van Halen song eruption uh, named after this? Yes, but that's another spoiler. Okay. For my report. Because it was also written it slightly before, so it was kind of a premonition. Yeah, it was pre-britied to a lot of things. Wow, Eddie. What a guy. You know what I
Starting point is 00:19:26 Who's that? He actually had All right that person from pop culture didn't know them Also their song about to go their song jump was telling people what to do when the volcano Oh my god, if you put a put Panama was where they should escape to Getting hot for teachers something you could do in your life If you survive hook up with the teacher. Treat yourself to hook up with the teacher. So Dave, the swiping only 30 years old,
Starting point is 00:19:56 he was considered to be one of the most experienced volcanologists around. Volcanologist. It's nice isn't it? Yeah, it sounds like a nerdy thing. Well, you're welcome. Shame, shame, shame. He had actual hands on experience within an eruption
Starting point is 00:20:14 from his time in Alaska, where he monitored a volcano over similar type to mountain hellens. So he's got experience. Despite this, not everyone's listening to him. On March 27, 12 days after the first activity, Red Hot Magma from within the volcano began to rise inside the mountain and came into contact with icy water at the top of the mountain. When extreme heat is added to extremely cold water, you get steam. That's bad in this case. Well, it's got to go somewhere.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Can you tell me quickly the difference between lava and magma? I was one hot, one's hot and one's softer. Oh. Is that right? Hot and magma. I'm guessing that's liquid and then lava, it's like floggear or something. I think it maybe it's different layers. I'm not a volcanologist.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Okay. It's by being named Dave. The same name as our hero volcanologist. Our favorite guy. Do you know, so you don't know the difference. I technically don't. Technically don't. No. It's okay. It's all right to not know. I'm technically though.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Just say I'm not sure. That's fine. You got me to take the Cality, all right? The technicality is not knowing. Okay, so magma has hit I-score water, and that has made steam. And this caused the peak of mountain hellans to suddenly build up the mountain hellans and then the mountain hellans And the technicality is not knowing. Okay, so magma has hit ice cold water and that has made steam.
Starting point is 00:21:27 And this caused the peak of mountain haleons to suddenly burst open. Oh no. And 6,000 feet of steam blasted into the air and a 250 foot wide crater, 75 meters, formed on the summit. 6,000 feet high. Yeah, it just went, woo! Wow! The mountain was relieving some tension. Okay, I'm in there. We're gonna blow off some steam sometimes, and I believe that's where that phrase comes from.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Oh, 1980. Yeah, that volcano had a big night out. Yeah. Do you wanna hear, according to earthobservatory.sg? Yeah, that's a different time. This one right? Yes, please. Magma is composed of molten rock
Starting point is 00:22:04 and is stored in the Earth's crust. Lava is magma that reaches the surface of our planet through a volcano vent. There you go, different layers. Cool. You basically were right. Thank you. And yeah, so lava is. Once it's out.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah, one is out into the head. But it is still kind of magma, but magma isn't lava. Yeah. It's not yeah. Tortoise is a turtle sort of. Yeah, it's totally like that. Is that helps you understand?
Starting point is 00:22:36 Sort of like how butterflies are caterpillars, but caterpillars aren't butterflies. That helped me understand. That helped me. Jotabood. Thank you, Jess. I feel like mine actually made more sense. I think it did too. Okay. Good try, Matt. Good try. So, steams blaster through. Now there's a 250-foot wide crater on top and people are thinking, oh, that's not good. She's going down.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Smaller eruptions continue at a rate of about one per hour throughout March than decreased to about one per day in April until they stopped on April 22nd. Oh, they're in the clear. Great. Oh, great. Well, we can wrap up. It's mountains a bit of a tease. Oh, safe.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Oh, I'm going to wrap. No, no, no. Oh, no, no. Everyone's like, oh, maybe we're safe. Oh, here I go. Just kidding. But just in case, Governor Dixie like, oh, maybe we're safe. Oh, here I go, just kidding. But just in case, Governor Dixie Lee Ray.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Dixie Lee Ray sounds like the character in Parks and Recreation who is a porn star who turns to politics. Dixie Lee Ray. Okay. Is the character named Dixie Lee Ray on the show? No, it's something great though. Kind of like, tertuses and totals. Okay, is the character name Dixie Lee around the show? No, it's something great though. Kind of like Tertuses and Totals.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Tertuses and Totals? Yeah, it's a bit like that. Dixie Lee Ray issued an executive order on April 30 creating a 10 mile red zone around the volcano. Anyone caught breaching this order without a pass faced a $500 fine, quite a lot of money back then, or six months in jail, quite a lot of time back then. Wow. Did, did, did. Yep. Don't go in basically. Yeah, but 2000 people lived around the volcano, and local residents were evacuated, and roadblocks were set up to stop people from getting too close to a volcano. Mmm, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Lots of people owned cabins within the Exclusion Zone and many were stopped from visiting to their annoyance. Oh no. I bet some of them kicked up a bit of a stink. So that is my cabin' in there, you see? I own it. It's mine and I can go and never I want to. Well possibly kicking up the biggest thing of all was Harry Truman
Starting point is 00:24:47 Not to be confused with Harry S. Truman the thirty third person That's who it was because he's be dead then right Yeah, yes around Okay about question sorry Dave some asking dumb questions, sorry doesn't Dave knows every... Well, since the 1930s is a guess. Oh, I love this. The David isn't even as a clue. You keep going, I'll tell ya. Well, our Harry Truman, the Harry Truman from this story, was 83 years old and it was
Starting point is 00:25:18 a World War I veteran. He had lived on the mountain for over 50 years and was a bit of a local legend. Everyone knew Harry Truman around him. He had survived a torpedo mountain for over 50 years and was a bit of a local legend. Everyone knew Harry Truman around him. Sure. He had survived a torpedo attack in World War I. Some of his colleagues weren't as lucky. And after the war, he lived in a lodge overlooking the lake, living a life of quiet seclusion.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Sounds beautiful. Sounds great. It's beautiful. Why wouldn't you continue living that way? And therefore just clear out while there's a threat. Yeah. You know? Well, his cabin was only three miles from the suburb
Starting point is 00:25:52 and right in the middle of the red zone. And he was told he had to leave, but he refused. He gave interviews and invited a journalist up to his cabin when people heard about this guy that didn't want to leave. And he became a bit of a media star. Oh no, that's right. he said the mountain was part of him and he was part of the mountain. And without it, he wasn't able to survive.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Oh my god, he stayed on. Oh my god, he fucked the mountain. Oh my god, he fucked the mountain. No, the mountain fucked him. Oh, the tease. The fat tease. Yeah, okay, so what do you like? If this erupts, I go with it well
Starting point is 00:26:26 No, he's he told the best he doubted the volcano would really erupt. He's like I've been in 50 years It hasn't gone off in that time. It's not gonna happen that's so funny Even though there were times where it's dormant for 700 years record. I've been here for 50 years Obviously, I went off ages ago sounds a bit like the climate change people Anyway, what I bring that up. I just want to quickly, before we check in with our president, his plan was to get in his yacht on the lake and just sail away from the lava.
Starting point is 00:26:54 He thought, I can quickly get in my boat. Lava will stop at the water's edge and I'll be able to get away. That's a plan. What do you mean lava will stop at the water's edge? What a lava, it follows rules. Watery rules. Yes, it's a freight of water. It's a freight of water. Oh, I didn't know lava was a freight the water. That's his word. What a lover. It, it follows rules. Watery rules. Yes, it's afraid of water.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Right. Water. I know love was afraid of water. So if the other's coming, just get in the bar. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, much like that grandma from Dante's peak. Shut up. Oh, no. Stop reruning that film for me. Harry S. Truman died in 1972. And when was he president?
Starting point is 00:27:26 It was president in the Tee That's what I guess but I'm a pro-rock. No 45 to 53. God damn it Dave. Get something right for once in your life. I mean Paris. I'm in Paris. So he was a post-World War II president I guess. There you go. So that's our Harry Truman we've checked in with. Well, we're checking with Harry a little bit later. Oh, Harry.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Over the weeks the volcano became headline news around the country and people flocked to see what the fuss was all about. Coming as close as they were legally able to to watch and take photos of a real life volcano. I mean, at this stage they're watching a mountain. A rumb a mountain. A rumbly mountain. Ooh. But there's not too much, you can't really say you're right. Are there concerns of volcanologists who didn't think people were treating the volcano
Starting point is 00:28:12 with the seriousness that it deserved? It wasn't a tourist attraction. It was something that could potentially kill many, many people very, very quickly. Despite that, people are flocking there, taking photos. People are so dumb. People are so, so dumb. That's what they're gonna do. Climate change and the water.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Look, we're gonna stop being swallowed by the oceans and people are gonna be on the shores taking photos. Look, the water, it's right at my house. Well, it's got, like a hurricane hit America. There's constantly people there trying to take photos. Yeah, like the film Twister Where there was a granny got out of her boat, which was in the tornado and she tried to drag it out of the tornado But she got eaten by the tornado and then she got hit by a cow Remember that scene and then Helen hung puncture in the face
Starting point is 00:29:04 The cow or her Bad cow How? Remember that scene? And then Helen Hunt punched her in the face. The cow or her? Her face. Bad cow. She was on a rampage. Helen Hunt, she, who else is in it? Doesn't matter. Paulman's Pill Pullman.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Pill Pullman. Bill Pullman. Who I think is a fine actor in his own right, whoever he was. Was it not Bill Pullman? It wasn't Bill Pullman. Matt keeps bringing up these questions. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I'm in a real bad streak of saying dumb things. I don't know. It lasted my whole life so far. I probably doesn't even need to be mentioned, because I think that anyone listening or watching has figured it out by now, but we're quite tired. So tired. We're losing our minds a little bit.
Starting point is 00:29:44 In a good way. In a good way. Yeah, in a great way. We have a great time. But we're pooped, but we have a day off tomorrow. So, don't worry about us. There you go. A few people just breathe the sigh of relief. Who else is in? Twister. It's Philip Seymour Hoffman inminute? Oh, maybe. What is young? I searched tornado. I learned the wrong lesson from volcano of the film. And I searched tornado film. But we know this one's called Twister.
Starting point is 00:30:16 It was that 1996. What a golden age for disaster. The sampling of that. Can you just, can you not tell us who it is and give us a clue? Because I figured out- I was right, it was the person that sometimes people call the Paul Man's Bill Paulman or vice versa.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I forget, but they had two people that got linked together and they're both named Bill. One of them Paulman- Haccston- Yes. Is Philip Seymour in there? Jamie Gertz, Kerry Eels, they're in it, and that's all they list. No. Kerry Eels.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Unless he was playing the Twister itself. He was. He's a method actor. Funny, yeah, what a legend. Yeah. He was great. He was a great. Anyway, so people are flocking to it to look at a bad...
Starting point is 00:30:58 Yeah, people are, you know, trying to see what all the fuss is about, because it is big, big news, but it's dragged out for several weeks now. Then on May 7, a eruption started back up again, and at the rate of eruption, gradually increased over the next 10 days. So it was building up to something again. Our resident volcano, just David Johnston, discovered a bulge. Oh. Or a-
Starting point is 00:31:15 He is pan. He was hot for volcano action. Literally. This, this bulge is also known as a crypto dome. Crypto dome. I like that a lot. I like that a lot. On the mountains North flank indicating an accumulation of viscous magma at a shallow depth.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Okay. So it's all heading to the surface, sort of pooling and bulging out. Oh dear. And the bulge is getting bigger. The north side of the volcano, it bulged out about 450 feet or 140 meters nearly horizontally. It was like a big growth on the side of the mountain. Oh my God, right. Indicating that magma was rising towards
Starting point is 00:31:50 the summit of the volcano and pressure was building within. Dave Johnston interpreted this as interpreted. This is suggesting that mountain hellens could produce what is called a lateral blast. I reckon that volcano was like, well, don't touch me for a minute. Let's just have a little breather. It's gone too quick. Well well well okay okay okay let's give us a second hey let's just chat for a bit don't know
Starting point is 00:32:14 don't touch me there. That's something I'm saying on TV or something. Oh so he's predicting a lateral. He's just can't do nothing. Dave just moves on. Yes, please continue Dave. Because he didn't say anything either. Yeah, I was laughing. All right. So I was a little too real for Dave. I know.
Starting point is 00:32:37 No, no, no, no, no. Okay, okay, okay. I'm trying to lateral blast. This is what it's predicting. Basically meaning that rather than erupting straight up, like you would imagine a volcano usually classically would do. Or a bum. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:54 What do bombs go straight up as right now? Straight down. It depends on where you're pointing it. If you've made it to the toilet in time, it should be going down. But if you're sun-baking, you know, you've got a few margaritas you fall asleep. And you're like, I reckon I can risk this. That lunchtime burrito is that gonna make your rumble? And you do what you think is a little fart.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And it's not. Oh, it's not. It's a big eruption. It's vertical. I'm mad at you. Sorry. You've engaged in it too. Yeah, I did. eruption. It's vertical. I'm mad at you, sorry, buddy. You've engaged in it, too. Yeah, I did. You never do. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I got excited. So, usually if I'll kind of go straight up, and then straight back down. Terrifying. Back into the same hole. That's the thing, yeah, yeah, it's like self-cleaning. It's like a water feature. That's the sound of a volcano. Yeah, that's what I do with my boat as well.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Look it back in. That's so... See a little up. Don't think about that too much. I rather than going straight up, the lateral blast meter might explode sideways, meaning the blast would be much bigger in one direction. You know what I mean? It's rather than going straight up and down, it explodes sideways and then one side just gets absolutely covered in love. Love, ash, everything is in one direction. That's what he's worried about.
Starting point is 00:34:15 One of the only other people to back up, Johnson's theory is a professor called Jack Hyde. Hyde was also of the opinion that because the mountain lacked events to release pressure, he thought the mountain would just keep building a pressure until it erupted. David thought of it as a time bomb ready to go off. Oh dear. He gave many TV and radio interviews trying to warn people of the possible danger. Johnston was really instrumental in getting the exclusions on put in place, but he thought it should be much larger. He described the situation to the press as quote, being on the mountain was like standing next to
Starting point is 00:34:45 a dynamite keg and the fuse is lit. Oh, that's scary. That's so funny how he would have, he got it made and they go, well, that's compromised. You wanna save people's lives as far out. Let's save him to here. And we're, so why are we compromising on this? Let's be safe.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Let's be super safe, because they're all thinking if it does go blast straight up and back down, the exclusion zone is fine. Right. It's never going to get further than that. But it explodes in one direction. Literally, sideways. It's going to be a problem. And the further out they make the exclusion zone, the more people they have to evacuate, and the more the hotels they have to pay for. Yeah, such a fast. And then I cost votes. Yeah. Can I have that? Sadly, Johnston and Professor Hyde
Starting point is 00:35:31 would both be proven right. Oh, no. By this point, a total of 10,000 earthquakes had been recorded around the mountain. That's so many earthquakes. Yeah. And they were building up to something, and so was this bulge I told you about
Starting point is 00:35:51 At this point the bulge on the top was growing in a rate of 5 to 8 feet or 1.5 to 2.4 meters per day So they're aware of this bulge. Yeah, they found the bulge. That's clearly the way it's gonna blast. Is that right? Yeah, and you're not even a vulcanologist and you get it But a lot of people like now, mate. Don't worry about it. Who are these people? Oh and also David Johnson's been brought in as probably the biggest expert they've got. And then he said, And they're not listening to it. And they're like, no, we've done a small exclusion zone. We've called it a red zone.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I'm taking it seriously. This feels like something we do all the time. Yeah. And then regret later. And people are really dumb. Despite the order to stay away, many people were inside the exclusion zone on May 18, 1980. A fateful, fateful day. Some of the people inside included Harry Truman, the World War I veteran that refused to leave that I mentioned earlier.
Starting point is 00:36:36 He was at home in his cabin. He's got his boat ready. He's ready to go. Another guy there was Reid Blackburn, who was a photographer who was very close to the summit. At 27 years old, he had been married less than a year, after many kids wife Faye, who also worked at the newspaper that had hired him. A real outdoor enthusiast, he was assigned
Starting point is 00:36:55 by the local newspaper, the Columbia, and an also national geographic to take photos of the changing mountain. He came to their 24-7 to make sure he was ready to snap the best shot when it inevitably began to erupt. He came to the main zone to capture it when it blasted. Did he have a magma proof photos? No, a film and camera and a and body Yeah, what's your getaway plan there? What's you can like how what do you mean get in the station wagon and gun it? So basically if all things go right
Starting point is 00:37:35 He gets to take photos of the thing that's about to kill him if it doesn't happen then The exclusions don't matter doesn't seem to make sense to me then the exclusion doesn't matter. It doesn't seem to make sense to me. Why doesn't he go, he should be hiring a helicopter and flying, you know. Now that makes more sense. Yeah, 24.7, he should be in a helicopter 24.7. Get a better lens that you can take photos from far away.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I'd spend money on a long lens. And live. They're able to get naked photos of the royals from 12 miles away with those lenses when they're on holidays in Greece and stuff. Are they naked photos of the royals? Queen Lizzie? No, I think someone got in real trouble with Kate Middleton a few years ago. She was on holiday in Greece and someone's camped out on a dirt road. 12 miles away or something
Starting point is 00:38:22 with one of those crazy leading. Yeah, imagine that far away, every millimeter you move it, it would move like a kilometer across. I'll be so hard to get it right. There's a real skill. It's a real skill in being a perv, that's the moon. Oh no, I didn't want to see a bump. Ah yes. Oh, that's the moon.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Too far, too far. Oh, over correctly that's the ground underneath my feet. Somehow. Like in the, just get a happy medium there. So he was stationed at Coldwater 1. That is a funny name. I'm still laughing at Matt's photography. Cold water one That is a funny name Nothing at that's photography
Starting point is 00:39:16 Looking behind me now I'm looking at the Hubble Space Fan up Alien I don't want to take a photo of that. Oh, it's inside my brain, something. I want to see Kate Milson. I just want a nude of a woman. Getting ever than part. It's like, no, it's a part. Getting so much good stuff and so what I need.
Starting point is 00:39:38 It's going Google, mate. So many dudes. So this bloke, an photographer. Yes. He's camped at a place called Cold Water One, which is about eight miles from the summit. He was assigned to stay on covering the mountain until May 17, but opted to stay a few days longer. So remember, I've talked about this as May 18, but opted to stay a few days longer. So remember, I've
Starting point is 00:40:05 talking about this is May 18, the fateful day. He was actually supposed to go home the day before. But he's dead. He's dead. He's staying. That was a fateful choice. As you know from this trip, I don't understand miles. So how far away would he be from their top in kilometers, please? 12k also? Yeah, got it, thank you. Yes. Not that far. He's pretty close. Keith Ronholm was a geophysics student
Starting point is 00:40:30 who bluffed his way past roadblocks and parked at a place called Bear Meadow, 11 miles from the summit. So he's a bit further away. These are all people that I'm gonna check in with later after the volcano goes off. Those bears don't get in the lava wheel. They're the two. Honestly, I I mean I guess if you're like I don't care
Starting point is 00:40:49 I'm just gonna camp near a volcano. I'm happy to stay in the bear house. Whatever Bear village was a good the bear Who's in bear village air village Hopefully they're friendly. I mean they want a lovely bear and be Whoa Hopefully they're friendly. I mean they want a lovely bear and be Whoa The B&B and that's the baby and baby So it's like that that would be the equivalent of us being beds and staying in a bed and bed. The bears, yeah, they stay in a bear and bed.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Okay, a bear being me, like a bear being me. Okay, that's probably because we're like air. Exactly, but this is a bear and be for bears. I reckon in this bear meadow, the bears are probably smart enough to leave. They heated the warning. Well, the smart enough to leave they hated the warning Yeah, if you well the bear start to leave get the hell out. Yeah, that's what I was you know And it's always no one is gonna rain or yeah rats always leave a ship At some point, you know, it's like one of these things. It's like totals and totals
Starting point is 00:41:59 Patterns and totals yeah But you laughed at me at air there and be I'm just trying something yeah I love it what is that word is thing oh my god Dave Tiko all right so we've got that's Keith Ronholm Paul is he's pretty close he's a student he's jump past the road blocks he's bluffed his way through he should not be there but he's there he bluffs it doesn't feel like this is good because he's a geysical student, I think that he was telling them that, oh I've got a monotone, so some stuff I'm allowed to be here.
Starting point is 00:42:29 These are, oh I'm going to check out these CBUs on the BFH's. And the sheriff was like, I'm get close to the action, putting that knowing they're putting their lives on the line. But they mustn't really think they're putting their lives on the line. No, most everyone in this situation thinks they're going to be able to get in a car and get away. Right. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Oh, this sucks. And we're all going to find out if that's true. Oh, okay. Robert Landsberg was also there. He's another photographer, a bit older. He's 48-year-old photographer. Robert Landsberg. Just a few miles from the summit on May 10th. He's very, very close.
Starting point is 00:43:08 He had visited the exclusions on several times in the weeks leading up to that day. To come in, Texan photos, go home, did this many times. On Saturday evening, May 17th, the night before, a vatel day, Robert camped near the volcano and wrote in his journal, quote, feel right on the verge of something and quote he was best debating at the time he was edging towards success I'm so close right now speak he did a little break to journal he's all his channel one the verge of something here put Put a lid on that pen, please. Wow, so, okay, so he's camped over on the wrong night. Yeah, he's going home until then.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Yeah, because he wasn't there all the time. He just happens to be there on this night. The following morning, Robert woke early and drove a bit farther up the road, stopping less than four miles west of the volcano summit. So he's very close. Once there, he put his camera on a tripod and not knowing what he was about to capture.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Wow, he also, his journal survived. That's a good sign that he would have. If lava's gonna take a human, it's gonna take a piece of paper. Or his paper, lava proof. Yeah, paper's lava proof, the people aren't lava. Right. We conduct lava.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Is that true? That's true. We're lava conductors. Huh If only we could conduct it to go away. Yeah, go away love. Hey, how you get out of here? Get out of here. You taste it off with a broom It's sweet but away So that's Robert Landsberg and of course David Johnston our friend was Stationed at the observation post called Water 2,
Starting point is 00:44:46 six miles from the mountains summit. He knew that in order to understand volcanoes and to protect the public sometimes, scientists had to put themselves at risk. But on May 18, he wasn't even supposed to be there. Harry Glicken, who was another volcanologist that looked upon David as his mentor and advisor, had been working for six days straight, and David agreed to cover Glicken on May 18th. Fingered, Glicken, Good. That was worth interrupting you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. He's safe. He's left. Just 13 hours before the eruption, Glicken as they're swapping over took a photo of David sitting on a camping chair with his feet up on a log and Smiling at the camera and this would become an iconic photo. Oh, no, because it was the last one ever taken. Just 13 hours before the eruption. Yeah, 30 hours of all
Starting point is 00:45:56 Last week in the taken. Thank you to his mentor, David. Oh, God. This is a final goodbye. It was his mentor. Hmm. Oh, They've already done us a sad story. Well, it's finger mentor. No. I have already told us a sad story. Well, it's finger-looking good. I think it's finger-looking good. And I don't regret that joke at all. Most weight loss programs are short-term fixes, but managing your weight needs a long-term solution. And that's what makes NUME different.
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Starting point is 00:47:55 On May 16 and 17, the smaller options had stopped. This would turn out to be the calm before the storm. But of course, people don't know this. Looking back, there's been a lot of signs. David Johnson has been talking about these signs, but no one knows this precise date it's going to go off. This has been a couple of month long process, but at this point. Right, so yeah. And no one would ever be really expecting it. No, not right. I reckon it's going to happen tomorrow. Yeah. But you want to quiet down, you'd be like, oh, maybe it's a false alarm. Yeah, because, but as you said, like it's better safe than sorry,
Starting point is 00:48:27 but imagine if this went on for months and months and months and it never went off, you'd feel a bit like, oh, sorry, we kicked you out of your houses. Yeah. But on the morning of May 18th at 8.32 AM, which is the Sunday morning in Earthquake, measuring a large 5.1 on the Richter scale, triggered a gigantic landslide on the mountains north face.
Starting point is 00:48:44 It was the largest landslide in history and it removed a mile wide chunk of the north face. Oh my god. So a mile across of the mountain just went, boooo, and just started sliding down the hill. This slope fell away in an avalanche and caused what David Johnson had warned of all along. A massive lateral blast that exploded out sideways and carried a high velocity cloud of super-heated ash and stone outward, some 15 miles or 25 kilometers from the volcano summit, which is much larger than the exclusion zone 10 miles. The blast reached temperatures of 660 degrees Fahrenheit or 350 degrees Celsius. Whoa!
Starting point is 00:49:25 And travels at speeds of up to 300 miles or 500 kilometers per hour. Oh, you did. So basically in the blink of an eye, it just went bang. So it's, so people who are like, it's fine. I'll just outrun it. Impossible.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Never gonna happen. Of course. That's crazy. How fast was it moving again, sorry? Up to 500 kilometers per hour. What? Did Harry get to his boat? Have faster planes go If you're in a plane you could outrun it like a jet hmm
Starting point is 00:49:53 Like a good plan you could outrun it you'd have to go on the plane running back of the plane running from the back of the Oil to the front while the plane is also moving fast So really the plane is also moving fast, the plane is on a level. I do it all over the energy. But still. It's good to get in some carrier. I have outrun a volcano. Was on a plane. Wow.
Starting point is 00:50:12 The eruption had the energy of the equivalent of 1,500 of the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima. Oh my god. The equivalent of 1,500 atomic bombs. Yeah. That's how much energy was released in that wall and just like it was instant right like it's just yeah far it was i don't understand but that's not gonna be the same it's not gonna do as much damage because it's not radiation and
Starting point is 00:50:37 oh yes oh yeah there's no radiation involved here luckily but it was simply put amazing rocks and super-heated gas flew across the air and down the mountain destroying anything unlucky enough to get in their path. 1300 feet of mountain disappeared almost instantly. In seconds, it was 1300 feet shorter than it was a few seconds earlier. Wow! It was crazy. Within minutes, piles of ash spread 15 miles high.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Shit! 15 miles high. Which, quoting from the Smithsonian Docko, which I will link to below, which was fantastic, it was called, and you can watch it for free on Facebook, it's on the Smithsonian channel called Make It Out Alive, Mouts and Hellens. Wow, cool. Wow. Sounds interesting. I just looked it up. Dante's Peggy is based on this expo- this eruption. Oh wow! Yeah. Cool. I just looked it up. Dante's Peggy is based on this eruption. Oh wow! Yeah. Oh, yeah. Luckily I haven't mentioned any grandmire characters so I won't be spoiling the movie. Quite a hand. Quiteing from that doco, which is that 15 miles high, is that that's more than twice as high as commercial planes fly. That's how high the ash went into the air.
Starting point is 00:51:43 It troked the air and caused the sky to go dark. If you were around the mountain this time, breathing became very, very difficult. So like all of a sudden it's dark. It just went really, really dark and suddenly the ash is hot, if you're unlucky enough to be close enough for it to fall on you, it will burn you and you can't breathe. I was feeling nervous for all the people you've mentioned now. I'm feeling pretty scared. Okay. That ash, there was so much ash,
Starting point is 00:52:11 it would go on to circle the globe twice. What? That's how I felt. Well, like a tour. Yeah, bloody. So the people paid tickets to see it. See ash, it was the Irish band. That was the aid is a different time. Different. They were used to come out to say ash
Starting point is 00:52:28 Poor old ash a good band. I never heard of them What happened to ash? All right, so you want to know what happened to the people inside? I've got some news and I've got some bad news. Okay. All right. Okay Prediction I was gonna predict but that seems like a lot of it. Yeah it is, but the old man's dead for sure. He's who I'm gonna start with. So I'd say Harry Truman. So let me just take a sip of water, because I'm,
Starting point is 00:52:51 oh my god. Got a lot of information to deliver to you. The suspense is killing me. So he's lived there for 50 years, his world war and veteran. And he's the one, is the refuse to leave. He reckons he's gonna get in his boat. That's fine, Dad.
Starting point is 00:53:04 The landslide headed straight for spirit Lake where Harry Truman lived He lived thank God Oh, my God. Thank you. He was still inside his cabin when it erupted. He simply didn't stand a chance Both he and the lodge disappeared under hundreds of feet of ash buried. It's been estimated here at only 22 seconds between the start of the eruption and the landslide hitting him. There's a great docker, make it out alive by the Smithsonian, which I again, I'll link to below. In it, they interview one of his neighbors who did leave called Mark Smith and looking back, he says this is a quite a poignant quote. He says quote a lot of people think gee that was quick talking about the 22 seconds And he says well if you start right now on count of 2001
Starting point is 00:53:50 2002 2003 by the time he gets a 22 that's a hell of a long time to see your life past before you Yeah, because you would have you would have heard the explosion Going out to see what's going on you got 22 seconds before it engulfs you in your house Sadly Harry's body was never found well the only thing you could hope for then would be like a Quick death quick and painless. Yeah, you know, it would be it would be over very quickly I mean that's an awful silver lining, but You know we find me in a doorframe Because I supposedly the most I think that's earthquakes that's earthquakes. Yeah, not triggered by one
Starting point is 00:54:30 Yeah, but the volcano part. Oh, yeah, well, let me finish my door My doorway is also Molten proof. Oh, okay, sorry. You didn't mention that I didn't let you finish Yeah, that was on me. sorry about that. Sorry about that. Can I come over in the instance of a volcano? You have 32 seconds to get to Matt's house. Easy. I've got room for three people under there.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Wonderful, thank you. So yeah, you can come around and bring a friend. Okay, great. Sorry Dave. You're dead. Oh no, don't. No, that is really holidaying on some sort of a Paisy one online. It's really eating a pie on the top of a dormant volcano mountain.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Am I a prize pig? Yeah. In all the right ways. Thank you. I mean, you've won a prize for liking pies and a prize for eating a nachos. Yeah, but he was, he entered the competition. I'm not would hang on I'm not having a go. I'm just saying I feel attacked. Oh, no, I was saying like you got to be in it to win it Yeah, no, thank you. No, it's by Matt not you you would defend me. I appreciate that was not attacking. I was saying it's amazing
Starting point is 00:55:39 It's crazy. It is it silly it is silly looking Sadly Harry has died. Keith Ronholm, he's the geophysics student that's bluffed his way in. At the time of the eruption, he was quietly reading in his truck. He heard the huge eruption in Laosland and still in his underwear grabbed his camera
Starting point is 00:55:56 and just started shooting, taking incredible pictures of the massive blast cloud. Before realizing, hey, that's actually coming this way and very, very fast. He started to get dressed while still taking photos. Getting dressed still taking photos, okay. But we know this story, that's a good sign. He had to decide in the blink of an eye, do I stay in shelter in the truck or leave and
Starting point is 00:56:18 try to outrun the cloud. At the last possible moment, he decided to make a run for it. He jumped in his car and decided to just drive. He began to think, oh no, I've waited too long. I took... Don't get dressed. I've wait, don't get dressed. Don't, so he's putting on, he puts on pants,
Starting point is 00:56:35 takes some more photos, puts on the shirt. No, get in the car. And that's what he's... He's already in the car. He's driving and he's thinking, I really regret that. Kind of like when we missed the plane the other day. Yeah. Should not have taken that piss.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Should not have bought a magnet. Oh, should not have pissed on that magnet. Yeah, it was weird that you did that. A similar laugh and death scenario. Yeah. While striving down a dirt road, he looked back over his shoulder one last time and he took a photo.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Stop it! Stop taking photos, you dickhead. But we've seen these photos apparently. I'm feeling good about this one. It's an incredible photo It shows a giant wave of ash gaining on him and smashing everything in his path That's a powerful photo. It's really really is the cloud over took his vehicle and suddenly everything went completely dark So the ash caught up with him even with the headlights on he couldn't see the road in front of him So to avoid an accident, he pulled over. He just had to wait it out.
Starting point is 00:57:27 The whole time wondering, am I going to be buried alive by ash? Or have I made it far enough away that it's just going to be like a foot of ash and that when it comes down, I'll be able to drive again. But he's thinking, if it's like 10 feet of ash, I'm going to die in this car. Wow, so what is ash? I think if ash is being a thing you just like, you know, just shuff off. Shuff off. No, well, because when it comes ash, it's like very, very hot. Yeah. And there's also gas in the air, so it's very difficult to breathe in. And you can't see anything. So it's a horrible situation to be in. As he stayed in his truck,
Starting point is 00:58:00 he saw a glow coming up behind him. Oh my god. He started to panic. He's thinking holy shit. That's lava I'm about to get melted But as it got closer and closer he realized it was the headlights of another car Two people are on each side of the front of the vehicle and we're giving directions to the third person as they drove Oh smart because in the car you can't see anything, but if you're out you can see a little bit You can see about maybe a foot or two feet in front of you Right, so they're crawling along and they're just feeling their way so he can follow them and then yelling at turn left turn right that kind of thing
Starting point is 00:58:32 crawling out getting their slipstream they happened upon Keith in his car and he joined the others and they very very slowly headed back towards town. I got in there car that makes it a more. Wouldn't it be hard to breathe? It's very hard to breathe. Fuck. So yeah, you do not want to be an asthmatic in this situation. This chance encounter turned out to save Keith's life.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Wow. If he'd stayed put, he would have died in that truck. Whoa. Only later did you realize that people much further away lost their lives that day. And if he'd stayed put, he would have been another victim. Holy shit. Just those people were driving along and they gave him a lift.
Starting point is 00:59:09 So Keith survived. So many like, spirit of the moment, life or death decisions to make, saying or going and that sort of stuff. So he just kept making the right decision. Although stopping eventually was wrong but it ended up. Yeah, that's right because I mean he kept driving in theory. It might have been a surprise for something. So he's alive. Read Blackburn, the photographer working for the newspaper and
Starting point is 00:59:33 National Geographic started taking photos when it started erupting and even took the time to write down times and shot numbers in his log. So I guess back in the day what you do, you take a photo, wind it on and then you'd write down a description of the photos so it's easier to catalog later. This is what he's doing while he's in the danger zone. Yeah, Avokhan was a rupting and he's taking time to do that. He's a real professional, but this cost invaluable time and unlike Heathron home, he didn't actually have time to start driving at all. So for the time he got to his car, he just wound the windows up and hoped for the best. Sadly, the ash was just too much and he was just way too close the following day
Starting point is 01:00:09 His car was discovered buried up to the windows in ash with reads body still in the front seat He died of a spixiation His notebook that recorded the photo survived and gave an indication of his last moments Sadly his photos didn't survive So you could think they could tell kind of what time he died because he'd written, you know, 844 description. But if he didn't take those photos and log it, just, yeah, some of these people so dedicated to their kids.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Well, you may have got away. Again, most of them, I've never experienced a volcano. You don't know, your miles and miles away, you don't realize how quickly you can just change in a second. Robert Landsberg, our other photographer, was also way too close to the blast. As the cloud of action hot rocks ball down upon him, Landsberg, realizing he had no means of escape, just kept taking photos until the last possible moment. He then wound the film back into its case, placed the film into his camera into his backpack, and then laid himself on top of the backpack,
Starting point is 01:01:10 in an attempt to protect its contents. Incredibly, his sacrifice worked. What? His body was found buried in the ash, with his backpack underneath, 17 days later, and whilst the photos were slightly damaged, they did survive, and were later published in national geographic
Starting point is 01:01:27 Wow Final moments I imagine that moment realizing I'm gonna die here. I want to keep in taking photos. This is the best I can do Right, that's amazing Yeah, cuz you think well who knows what you think but Imagine some people would be like I'm'm going to die, fuck everything. Yeah, or just panic. Yeah, panic. Stan, they're going, what do I do?
Starting point is 01:01:49 What do I do? What do I do? It all sounds like he's so calmly. Yeah. And well, I'm gone, but I want to leave something behind. Wow. Amazing. Yeah, and I'll be posting lots and lots of photos of the eruption.
Starting point is 01:02:00 There's so many good ones, but I'll be taking the one. I'll definitely post Keith's photo of him turning around in the in the truck and also Some of Robert's ones which you know are amazing. They are damaged But like that as sort of ads talk you realize this man died taking these photos. Wow. Absolutely amazing Uh, David Johnston our volcanologist was just six miles away from them. The summit when it erupted The pyro-classic flow which I've watched, I remember watching documentaries on volcanoes with my dad as a kid, that's the thing you gotta be most scared of in an eruption.
Starting point is 01:02:29 It's fast moving currents of hot gas and volcanic matter and it just travels at hundreds of miles per hour, down the mountain, and just mashes everything in its past and can't breathe and it's super hot and it just destroys everything. So people worry about the't breathe, and it's super hot, and it just destroys everything. So people worry about the lava, but that sort of comes a bit later, usually, and there's a bit, there's a lot slower.
Starting point is 01:02:49 A lot of the time you can sort of out, right, right, out drive lava, but the paraclastic flow, if you're in this path, you have no chance. Wow. So that's the most terrifying part. This is one of the guys who knew this was, or believe this was all gonna happen.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Yeah, this is the lane guy. Still ended up being so close. He's there, because remember I said before, he's monitoring it for everyone. He realized that sometimes scientists have to put themselves in danger to protect other people by reporting on what's going on. It would have only taken one minute
Starting point is 01:03:16 for the paraclysmic flow to reach where David was. In that time, he was able to reach a radio and send a message to his colleagues. His final words were Vancouver. Vancouver. This is it. Wow. It was unclear at first if he had survived, but it was soon discovered that the area he'd been in was absolutely decimated. The lateral blast that killed Johnston started at a speed of 220 miles or 350 kilometers per hour
Starting point is 01:03:41 and accelerated to 670 or 1,080 kilometers per hour and accelerated to 670 or 12 or 1080 kilometers per hour. Oh, shit. Sadly his body was just never recovered. What? All right. It's, yeah, so if everyone believed him and they made a huge exclusion zone, would he still, do you reckon he'd still would have stayed in there to monitor it?
Starting point is 01:04:02 Probably just because he was monitoring at every single day. Or remember, say the thing that he's predicted has killed him, but also tragically for his colleague and his mentee, he had taken over his friend's shift that day. Remember he wasn't supposed to be there? His apprentice Harry Glican was completely destroyed after the loss. I bet.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Yeah, you're blaming yourself. But I mean, obviously that's not logical. No, I couldn't comment on it any second. In a cruel twist of fate, Glican was also killed by an eruption at Mount Unsen in Japan in 1991. This makes Glican and he's mentor Johnson, the only two US volcanologists to ever be killed by volcanic eruptions. They're the only two.
Starting point is 01:04:45 The only two. Oh, wow. That's like it. That feels like a curse. Isn't that crazy? So you'd feel guilty this whole time. I was supposed to be there. I should have been killed by that volcano
Starting point is 01:04:54 than 11 years later. Here becomes the only second ever US volcanologist to get killed by. That's like, what's that? Movies that horror movie series where the death would always come from. Our final destination. Final destination. Yeah, so sadly David Johnston is one of the victims. So far we've had one survivor. And so much luck. So much luck. Yeah. Wow. I'm gonna tell you
Starting point is 01:05:23 another about another person I haven't mentioned before. It wasn't just people in the exclusions zone that were affected. 36-year-old Jim Scheimanki was working as part of a team of four members of a logging crew because it's surrounded by forest there. And that actually people did kick up a fuss later on saying, one of the reasons they thought the exclusions zone wasn't larger is that it was a big logging area. And some people said, did a possible reason, yeah is that it was a big logging area and some people said did A possible reason yeah that that would have stopped the logging right which would have cost you know millions of dollars
Starting point is 01:05:52 Potentially so they just went now don't worry about it keep the logging going that was a criticism afterwards But Jim Shomaki was there with three other people the crew were logging 12 miles from the mountain and were outside the red exclusion zone when it erupted He was far enough away that when it first kicked off, he and his two colleagues with their chainsaws had no idea. They just kept logging until their fourth colleague, who had refused to work on Sundays, he was just camping, came running down towards them. Then the blast hit and the men were just knocked to the ground. The ash began to fall and it was so hot it melted Jim's gloves onto his hand.
Starting point is 01:06:24 What? What? How gross is that? So like proper workman's gloves melted onto his hands. Still on the ground being after being knocked over, the ash started piling on top of him and his colleagues and it was burning their skin. Oh my god. His lungs were also burning from breathing it in. It was so hot, his first thought was, oh my god, I'm
Starting point is 01:06:45 being covered in lava. Oh shit! You felt like it was on fire. Incredibly, tough man, he was able to get up to smite the pain. Oh my god. It was almost completely black and difficult to see, but he was able to find his three colleagues and they too were alive, but only just. They tried to seek relief from the burns by heading down to a river that usually runs cold, but it had turned into grey muck because all the ash and then later on mud flows actually took over this awful situation. Next they soon sought shelter in their logging truck which had been moved by the blast but remained upright. The four squeezed into the cab, increasing the pain from their burns as they rubbed against
Starting point is 01:07:28 each other. Finally, they could bear it no longer. They knew if they were to survive, they're going to have to walk out themselves. But everywhere they looked was destruction. Logs blocked every path. They split the party into two. Never split the party. Never do that.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Never split the party into two. Never split the party. Never split the party. Never split the party. And Jim and one man went off in one direction and the other two went in another. Despite their burns, they walked 4.5 miles before Jim and his friends' path was completely blocked by a landslide. They had nowhere to go. Burnt and exhausted, they lay down defeated. They could hear helicopters from the natural guard overhead, but the copters couldn't see them through the ash. So basically they lay there for hours. Oh my god, no. Jim would later say, balling too much, that he basically wondered how long is this going
Starting point is 01:08:21 to take, preparing for death, sort of hoping that it would can we speed this up? I'm in a lot of pain quick death. The lungs were burnt the skin was burnt They had no energy, but they refused to die and then they heard a helicopter this time much closer than the others Jim looked up and he could see it He barely had enough strength to lift his arm to signal it But he did the helicopter tried to land but, but the ash made that a very difficult task and also blew more into Jim's face. This is a classic catch.
Starting point is 01:08:49 More ash kicks up. Eventually the pilot, bit of a hero, was able to land and Jim and his colleague were rescued. He spent months in the hospital and survived, where sadly the other three men, including the other men rescued, did not. Wow. So come to their injuries.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Yeah, I think two of the other three men, including the other men rescued, did not succumb to their injuries. Yeah, I think two of the other men, they tried to make it through a flooded area and just sort of never able to get through it. And the other man succumbed to his injuries, the burns and everything else. Jim never logged again and instead began restoring antique cars. Oh, cool. So, and he's been interviewed multiple times since about. Far out. Those would be just the most horrendous injuries, too.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Oh, man. We'll cover from. Yeah. But that's, he survived. So amazing. Crazy survival story. And there's lots of other stories about that. I've just sifted a few of them.
Starting point is 01:09:41 The effects of the eruption were felt across America and the world. Complete darkness occurred in Spokane, Washington, which was 250 miles or 400 kilometers northeast of the volcano. So 400 K away, the ash is so thick, it's turned to nightfall. Within minutes a pile of ash spread 15 miles high, which I said before, the ash would circle the globe twice, which I did mention earlier, but that is just crazy that it would just, you know, in Australia, we were detecting ash in the air.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Crazy. Maybe not people like, it's not like when we have a bushfire and you can smell it, but instrumentation from scientists, they could sense that there was ash in the air. It's like in Chernobyl. They could detect the radiation. Oh yeah, that's right. It detected it eight, eight just away. The eruption also melted entire glaciers detect the radio. Oh, yeah, that's right. They detected it eight ages away. The eruption also melted entire glaciers in the area. Whoa, which is melting a glacier. No, they
Starting point is 01:10:32 take, you know, millennia to forms. It's melted. They're gone in minutes because they're right next to the volcano and then hot ash just lands on it and it just and it melts. And these cause lahars of volcanic mudslides, which cause further destruction. Oh, that sucks. So the water melted, caused a flood. It combined with all the ash in the dirt and gross mudslides started. The thermal energy released during the eruption
Starting point is 01:10:57 was the equivalent of 26 megatons of TNT. And the eruption caused over $1 billion in damage, equivalent of 3.3 billion today. That's US dollars too. So it's a five trillion Australian. Quick maths. Well done. That's a lot of scumulians. Which is like a phrase for money.
Starting point is 01:11:22 So I mentioned it was a logging area. Four billion feet of board, or 9.4 million square meters of timber was destroyed, which is enough to build about 300,200 bedroom homes. Ooh. And the ash removal took months in some places. Wait, sorry, read that again. 300,000. Two bedroom homes worth of wood was just wiped out in seconds.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Far out. In the forest around. It was 200 bedroom homes and I was like, well, dude, that's like, that's huge, that's a hotel. Yeah, but how many hotels? Before the eruption, the mountain peak was 9,677 feet or 2950 meters, but afterwards it was 8,363 feet or 2549 meters, meaning it lost 1300 feet or 400 meters of height. Wow. And there are photos that compare to the before and after and it looks like a different mountain. Really? That's crazy. The official death toll of the eruption is recorded as 57.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Oh. The eruption has often been declared as the most disastrous volcanic eruption in US history. People say, without the exclusion zone, it could have been a lot worse. Yeah. But if the exclusion zone was a bit bigger, it would have been less.
Starting point is 01:12:40 I mean, 57 feels like a relatively low number, but that's still a lot of pieces. Yeah, it is. And for the destruction that's still a lot of piece. Yeah it is and for the destruction that it caused. Yeah. You know it could have been. Could have been worse. In 1982 President Ronald Reagan announced that the area around the mountain would become the Mounts and Hellens National Volcanic Monument and inside the monument area the environment is left to respond naturally to the eruption. Okay. So they. So they didn't repair any of the, or clear away any of the ash there. They just left it.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Just left it to sort of nature, take us course. And observatory was set up four miles from the mountain near where David Johnston was on the morning of the eruption. And it was named the Johnston Ridge Observatory and named in his honor. Wow. Just finally, I don't want to spook anyone here, but the volcano is still active, and has had some smaller options since, leading me to ask, is it just another time bomb that will again explode in hundreds or thousands of years?
Starting point is 01:13:36 Probably, yeah. Yeah, probably. Yeah. I just hope that I'm nowhere near it when it goes off. Fire out. Cause I'm fascinated by volcanoes. Like I said, would watch those docus with my my dad as a kid and you know, watching the lava bubble afterwards and sort of form new islands and mountains.
Starting point is 01:13:51 It's so fascinating, but they are terrifying. Yeah. Just the speed and the power. It's so scary. And there's stories of other people where they were camping out and they were closer than other people that died. But because of where they were and where the land was, when the blast came down the hill, it sort of went into a channel down a valley and they were standing on a slightly elevated bit.
Starting point is 01:14:16 So it was coming towards them in the last second via it away. Far out. But if they'd been in any other spot, they would have been killed in seconds. So there's so many stories like that. Incredible. Far out. But if they'd been in any other spot, they would have been killed in seconds. So there's so many stories like that. Incredible. Far out. You know what? Like the guy who survived and then spent the rest of his life just not just, but like restoring antique cars, it would sort of give you quite a bit of perspective, wouldn't it? Yeah, absolutely. You've been that close. He was lying there prepared to die. Yeah, waiting for death. He knew he was prepared to die. Yeah, he was waiting for death. He knew he was gonna die. Not knowing. I like not just thinking he thought he knew this is it far out the helicopter saving was against all odds
Starting point is 01:14:52 That's crazy. Yeah, just been able to seem let alone being able to get to him quite amazing But that's that's the story of the mountain hell and eruption in 1980. Dave, fantastic report. Great report, Dave. A fascinating story. Thank you, I do love it. A little bit fascinating. Yes, I do love a disaster story. Yeah, why is that? I do find them fascinating, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Yeah, and there is always the human element. It's just like the serial killer stuff when we talk about it here. It is awful, these are real people, but do find a fascinating, and they build up the lead up to it. And there's always moments looking back where it could have been like, we're done this, we want to save these That's a lot of you know, there's one thing smart to think about these and learn, hopefully learn the lessons from Learn the lessons that just always are on the side of caution
Starting point is 01:15:37 Yeah, exactly Um, that was a huge report But really, uh, yeah, that was full on. I don't know if I'm feeling particularly fragile or something, but I was like, towards the end there, that was something. Yeah, sorry, I tried to finish with, I mean, Heroic Survival just to sort of pick it up at the end there, but it is really sad.
Starting point is 01:16:00 tragic that those 57 people. Yeah, but I think, yeah, yeah, you can, it's not the kind of story I would look into, naturally, so I appreciate you doing that. Mm. For here, I'll set, do go on. That's right. So we're doing right now.
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Starting point is 01:17:03 Boom. And this week, we've got a couple. One is a fact from Nathan. And Nathan has given himself the title because he had to give himself a title while in this section. He's given himself the title of Chief Beverage Analyst Officer. Interesting. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Nathan, I like it. Interesting. That is a fascinating title to have given yourself. Thank you so much Nathan and your fact that you've given us is, it's, Jesus brief. I love that. Right to the point. You ready for this? Yes.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Take it all in if you can. The medical name for your butt crack is interglutial cleft. Oh, that makes sense. I've never heard that. I've heard that. Interglutial cleft. It never heard that I've never heard that into gluteal cleft It does make sense For your butt crack
Starting point is 01:17:50 That's a beautiful fact Thank you so so much I want to offer his job title Chief Beverage Analyst Officer Thank you so does that mean you'll bring us beverages Yeah and then well yeah is the analysing the ones that we already have Oh okay, making sure they're not poisoned Oh that's great. You taste tester
Starting point is 01:18:05 Yes, that's right. He goes No, all good then hands you clear. Yeah, I like that He asked a wait a few days to make sure there wasn't anything wrong with it. Yeah, he tasted our drinks several days ahead We're always having three day old milk. He anticipates our our wants. Yes Thank you so much Nathan and also I would love to thank Odie Matthews who's given himself the title of Junior Vice President of coming back to the patron. He was left for a little period. He's back big about a better than ever. Odie. And Odie's asked the question and I've
Starting point is 01:18:41 probably mentioned this every time but I don't read him until I read him. So I think I nailed that last one. That was great. Basically I'd Latin in, and I probably mention this every time, but I don't read them until I read them. So I think I nailed that last one. That was great. Basically I'd Latin in it, and I didn't even stumble. But Ode asks, since you all, he's American, I think, since you all have done so many different reports, I was wondering if there were any from the beginning of the pod that you wish you could do again with new information and skills on writing reports. That's a great question.
Starting point is 01:19:08 That is a good question, Hody. Yeah, that is an interesting one. I think some of the earlier reports I did. Yeah, a lot of the early ones I think we were figuring it out. I think there are some topics I just wouldn't choose now. Like I wouldn't do the hottest one, 100, it's a kind of quite a strange. Okay. And it's also because it's just all instantly out of date.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Yeah. Because you know, I did that in 2015. Yeah, yeah. I mean, four of those countdown sets then. Yeah. I mean, maybe that is the awkward. If I should have just had done the origin of it, which is probably what I did. I can't even remember But yeah, I'd probably love to do every report I've ever done again. I feel like I could always do it
Starting point is 01:19:53 Yeah, you could always improve you personally Dave and I've always nailed it. Yeah, I feel like I've always nailed it. No, I think I could do the Beatles better Left-handedness. I don't know if I would have done that Yeah, I think that was a I would have done that. Oh yeah, I think I would have quite liked that as a report. Yeah, I find that like those cool ones. It's different. Yeah, it's not just like an event or a person. Yeah, I like some of those ones that are just,
Starting point is 01:20:17 yeah, almost answering a question. What's the deal with left-handed? Yeah. Well, how did tattoos work? Yeah. Yeah, if we go, we've done that. That's probably one that I would like to do again. Right. We could do updates. But yeah, that's an interesting question. Yeah, great question. I should go back through some of the old episodes and... Don't put yourself through that.
Starting point is 01:20:39 No, that's a good point. I did talk to someone at a recent live show who said they've just gone back to the start and they said they just listen to the Spice Girls episode. I said, all right, my favorite Spice Girls scary. That's still true. She said it is. And I said and Dave's, no, Jess is a sporty Spice, no Dave's a sporty Spice. Sporty. And Jess's a posh. No, baby. No, baby. Damn it. So, it's a spice. Baby. Did I do that report?
Starting point is 01:21:11 One of you did, or did I? Oh, it wasn't me. It could, maybe it was me. No, it was you. It was me. Probably me. Yes, swass up your laugh. Go back and listen to that one again. Thank you so much to Odie for that question. Thanks Odie.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Thanks Odie. Thanks Odie. Did you give an answer there? I'm sure there's ones that I'm like, I wish I'd done. I could do that again. I think Agrippena the Younger was one that I think I could have done more coherently. I just the name says that it was a bit hard to follow at times. I wish that I could go back and be funnier on the Helen Kellan episode. That is one.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Yeah, that's because Matt and I sort of treated that with sort of, I think, too much we were treating with kid gloves, too worried to make jokes, but later on we've discovered, obviously, you can find him or around. We're not, I think we're worried that we'd be, look like we were making fun of Helen Keller, a remarkable person, but we could have had more fun reckon around the topic, but I think we're a little too nervous at the time. Yeah, we missed, we missed the start and never caught up. Yeah, and that was a good report by U.J.S., but it was sort of, it really should be our
Starting point is 01:22:20 job to chime in with sillier things that don't make fun of. No, and I was almost about to say that maybe that wasn't the best topic choice, but she's a fascinating person. Oh, absolutely. An incredible life. It's a great story. And we've, yeah, like there's been all sorts of stories that might seem inappropriate to yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's something that's the delicate thing that we try and do. You know what though? We could go back and do some that we've done three years ago. And it wouldn't even feel like we were redoing it because I've forgotten it all. Yeah. I'd be hearing it for the first time. I'd be like, really? I'd probably make the same jokes I made the first time because my brain has not evolved. That is true. It's a good question, Odie.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Is that the brain scientist? I know that's not true. That's a brain scientist. A brain scientist. A brain scientist. Another thing we like to do is thank a few of our other patrons and Justin becomes over the bit of a game. Yeah, a bit of a tough one with this topic.
Starting point is 01:23:21 So disaster is volcano. Why the wicked name of volcano after them with this topic. So disaster's volcano. Why the weekend name of volcano after them? Oh yeah. Or because you know how they named that sort of that area after David Johnston. Johnston, Johnston. Johnston. Maybe we could name some sort of monument after them. Oh okay, great. No no to know, no, all right. And so we can go through statues or anything. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:49 We reckon it's options. Yeah, great. So kicking off, I'd love to think of possible from Bandhaigan in SC would I be Sweden? Yeah, that is. I'd love to think Amille Littwin. Emily Littwin. Emily Littwin.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Emily Littwin. Yeah, that's right. Thank you so much for listening all the way over in Sweden, which I say all the way over. It's not that far from us right now, is it? Oh, yeah. We're still thinking like we're in Australia. I always think like we are. Sometimes you say stuff like, yeah, over here and you go, oh no, we meant over there.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Australia. And I've got winning a name. Okay. Sometimes you say stuff like yeah over here and you go oh no we meant over there. That's right. And I've got win in her name. So that's okay. So there's a monument ready to go. What? Let win. So it's a you know you'd think that's like some sort of a book prize. A let win. Yes. So I think it's like like a Rooknama style massive book monument. I think it's like a Rooknama style massive book monument for maybe four and it's remembering people who read a full book in one year, which I'm yet to do, but everyone who does, and they get their name etched on the bottom floor. Yeah, it's a, if they only read one,
Starting point is 01:25:03 if they surpass one, what happens to you? I've read a book in a year. Let's make it something that I haven't done, if they surpass one, what happens? I've read a book in a year. Let's make it something that I haven't done, something for me to do. Two books in a year. Two books in a year. I think, no, I reckon I've even done that. Let's say, let's say, 10 books in one year.
Starting point is 01:25:19 I would never have done that. Not like novels. I would have read, you know, 10 picture books. I was a kid probably. Sure. Where's Wally? Where's Wally now where's Wally where the fuck is that guy I read all those yeah um so yeah is that anything for Emily Emily yes I reckon it is from band Hagen Sweden band Hagen that's so cool it's so cool that we got all this around Sweden and I know actually quite a
Starting point is 01:25:43 few lessons in Sweden which is wild it's very cool that we've got all this in our own Sweden. And I know actually quite a few of this is in Sweden, which is wild. It's very cool. Thank you so much, Emily. And it makes me feel real cool. Thanks, Emily. I'd also love to thank from San Diego in California, you know what I'd say to America. Aaron Stosel. Aaron Stosel.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Aaron Stosel. And the Aaron Stosel observation deck. Oh, wow, what is he observing over a big cliff? Whoa, and people bungee jump off it really, and you can watch from there from the observation deck You can observe from the Aaron Stocial Observation Deck to see people jumping and then bouncing back Yeah, it's really fun because Because that's what he did. Aaron, he hit some tough times, but he always bounced back. Always bounced back. And that was why I was a beautiful and apt dedication to him.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Thank you so much, Aaron. Thank you, Aaron. Do you want to thank some? I'd love to thank some of these beautiful Patreon supporters now. I would like to thank from an unknown address. Oh, mystery man. I love the mystery here. First name, Frank. and porters now, I would like to thank from an unknown address. Oh, mystery man. I love the mystery here.
Starting point is 01:26:48 First name, Frank. Last name. West. Oh, that's a great name. Frank West. That's a Hollywood name. I think that we should dedicate a monument on a mystery island to you.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Yes. So he can never find it. Yeah, but no one can. No one can. But we definitely made one. We definitely made one, but you'll never find it. But, but no one can no one can. Oh, but we definitely made one. We definitely made one But you never find it. But all about standing next to the monument, which will email it Yeah, we've got a email. That's about it. Okay Frank West and I believe it's a giant question mark because this is the mystery man. Yes, and what is it?
Starting point is 01:27:20 What what does it represent? Mystery in Treg. Oh and Treg. It's just like you get a monument for being most intrigued Okay, and how about we bury treasure at the foot of the question marks if you are able to find this mystery island And dig it up the treasures yours and they'll need to follow these questions three No, I've just dedicated it to Frank. It's coming out of our pocket. Okay, because we appreciate it supports so much It's gonna cost us many millions more Okay. Because we appreciate it, it supports it a bunch. It's gonna cost us many millions more dollars than he's donated to us, but...
Starting point is 01:27:49 Okay, that's a pro shit pay. Thank you, Frank West, the mystery man. Who knows where you're from? Who knows? I'm predicting. Most I'm big. Most I'm big. That's my hot tip.
Starting point is 01:28:02 All right, I would like to think, now I've got the location of the next person. They are in Tempe, Arizona. I would like to thank Andrew, Jacob, Greenfield. Greenfeld, so sorry, I've added in an either. Andrew, Jacob, Greenfeld. AJG. AJG.
Starting point is 01:28:19 AJG. Okay, I'm trying to think, what are some other monuments you can have? What about an Obsalisk an obelisk obelisk Which you pointed out one the other day whenever in Dublin and also set it wrong Obelisk I'm like adding extra letters in a words. I think they remember and it's just like a classic Egyptian obelisk You know they often
Starting point is 01:28:41 European people would steal those and put less one in Paris. Yeah. Standing up there. But this one we're building from scratch, from stolen from the local Arizona area. Oh, great. Local tribute. Yeah, local tribute. That's nice. And it's a tribute to all of those people who've stood up for what they believe and that's
Starting point is 01:29:03 what's in upright. Oh, that's good. Love that. Andrew Jacob Greenfield's done that. He does that every day. He stands up for what he believes in and what he believes in sometimes is questionable, but that's not the point. The point is he stands up for you.
Starting point is 01:29:18 You're right to believe in. Yeah, whatever you want. Andrew Jacob Greenfield, thank you so much. All right, from Tempe, Arizona. Well, I appreciate you. I couldn't All the way from Tempe, Arizona. We appreciate you. I couldn't see from there. Tempe, Bay Bay. That was the palm sign of a joke that I cut from the show this year.
Starting point is 01:29:32 Tempe, Bay Bay. You should put that back in the picture. I'll put it back in. Maybe I'll use it next year. I was going to have to think a little more local to home, but very far away from where we are right now. It's Balorat in Victoria. The rat. The rats where my grandparents live. I would like to thank. Where the plugger was born.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Sandy tie. Oh, Sandy tie. Hi, Sandy tie. Sandy tie. What an honor to be thanking you today. What? I didn't know you were from Ballarat. Me either.
Starting point is 01:29:59 And Sandy, actually the monument that's named after her is a giant gold nugget. Oh! Because Ballarat was a gold mining, gold mining gold panning. Gold rushing town. Oh, built on the gold nuggets back. Yeah, and so they named a big nugget after a big gold one. It's real gold. It's an actual big gold nugget. Yeah, it's like the biggest one in the world.
Starting point is 01:30:25 It's a stranger or the goodbye friend. The sandy tie. The sandy tie. Big nugget. It's the biggest nugget ever found. Biggest nugget ever found. It's actually as big as me. All we're gonna do now is find it.
Starting point is 01:30:38 What's someone, what's someone on the other famous nugget? Welcome strangers one, right? That's the biggest one, yeah. Okay. Well, let's quit while we're at the top. Yeah, why? It's the name of the biggest one, that's the biggest one yeah, okay Well, let's quit well wear it. Yeah, I'm the biggest one. That's fine. I'm finally bringing it home I was Andy. Thank you Sandy. I would love to thank from Durham Durham Here in the greatest Britain. I'd love to thank Joshua curry. Oh, it's a nice name, isn't it? Yeah, Josh curry Well, can I say for Josh? Yes, we're gonna shoot something in a space,
Starting point is 01:31:07 but what are we gonna shoot in a space? Um... Assuming he's still alive, we can't shoot his ashes up there. Yeah. But maybe we can shoot like, we'll roll, maybe we record an episode about Durham. Yep. And all of the fascinating facts about it. Dave could you give us a
Starting point is 01:31:26 couple of quick ones as an example? Ah, there were there today's eight degrees. Yeah, so fascinating stuff like that. And we start our hotel with average 52 pounds. Okay. It has a castle and a university but Uncle Gardens. It's always interesting stuff, I think. So, we put all of that onto a recording into a language that the Martians will understand. A lot of it, which definitely exists, Martians or Mars. I don't care what the propaganda machine tells you, we shoot in a space. And that is a beautiful tribute. Great.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Don't you think? Yes. That is the tribute that I'd want. Yeah. It's got a certain flag in code of arms. I do a bad flag actually. It's a fine flag I sort of like the English I slanted flag and Georgia's cross but with the backfielding with like a navy
Starting point is 01:32:11 To the fine flag. It's a fine flag Thank you so much Josh. We really appreciate you. Thank you so much We thank we appreciate everyone that supports the time on patreon and you can do that one more time at patreon.com slash Duguon pod. Oh, yeah big time you can do that one more time at patreon.com slash do go on pod Oh yeah big time you can do that and that brings us to the end of the show Dave Can't believe it wow done the report done the patreon tick tick. We're good here Thanks so much for everyone for tuning in yet again if you want to find us online We put stuff up on our social medias at do go on pod on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter and also at gmail.com
Starting point is 01:32:46 if you want to get in touch on the email just we'll reply to you within sort of one hour up all the way up to like maybe two three weeks. Yep, somewhere in there. Somewhere in there so it can be real quick. So roll the dice a few times when she's on the computer you might get a real report. Yeah, you might have nailed it. But you only get something computer every two or three minutes. And she is about to get the new version of the Sims.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Yeah, so I won't be a good mouse. Good luck. Good luck. And yeah, what else do they, people need to know, oh shit, I was meant to plug my shows, I'm doing a show. Yes. In Hobart at the festival on the edge of the world, fringe on the end of the world. Fringe at the end on the edge of the world, fringe on the end of the world, fringe at the end of the world,
Starting point is 01:33:27 and that is on the 9th and 10th of January in Hobart, which is one of my favorite cities in the world in Tasmania, and you can find out details about that at matchyourcomedy.com, and also in March, I think I've done the Brisbane Comedy Festival again, and it's going to be real fun time. And I'm in an even bigger room than that room that I was in in previous years. You weren't there, but everyone who was there wouldn't know that it was quite a sizey room. And I'm in an even bigger room than that. And they can come along to that.
Starting point is 01:34:01 I think it's 10th to the 15th of March, I think. But there will be details on the website match to your company calm Sounds great fan Fantastic well, um guys We've had some fun here in London tonight, but it's time for us to go out and get some nibbles. Yes We are all very hungry. We always finish with the song. Yes. You want to kick us off? As we go on We remember the song. Yes, you want to kick us off? As we go on, we remember all the times we had together.
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