Two In The Think Tank - 224 - Julia Child

Episode Date: February 5, 2020

This week we discuss the life of Julia Chid, who many of you know as a loveable TV chef. But did you know she didn't start cooking until she was in her 30's? Her life before this was pretty bloody interesting too! WARNING: Matt is very drunk in this episodeBuy tickets to our live shows here: https://dogoonpod.com/events/Our website: dogoonpod.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicCome to the Sanspants vs Planet Broadcasting Gameshow Showdown : https://m.moshtix.com.au/v2/event/plumbing-the-death-star/119488?skin=4406&fbclid=IwAR0J6Vm7PhBgS_QRj8L95o57Z22twh6hHnN6WfK6yH2RUEmrPlkUCSBge9E Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Childhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9AITdJBTnQhttps://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/dining/a8339/julia-child-marriage/https://juliachildfoundation.org/timeline/#https://www.tasteofhome.com/collection/julia-child-facts/https://www.history.com/news/julia-child-oss-spy-wwii-shark-repellent

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money for wildlife Victoria. Alright, cool, I'm with the show. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Wannaheek and I'm sitting here with Jess Perkins and a man that may sound a little bit like Matt Stewart. What do you mean a little bit, I feel? I break and I feel silly like Matt Stewart. Oh, it's said that word wrong.

I said silly when I'm at sound. Okay, there's a- We're gonna play a little game of listens and that is one of us has been drinking but we It said that word wrong. I said silly when I meant sounds Gonna play a little game of listens and that is one of us has been drinking but we won't tell you which one One of it so it's it's 12 hours after one of us been 12 hours like a moron Been drinking for 12 hours Honestly, no one obviously has been doing it for 12 hours. Let's figure out who is man doing it. Hey who hasn't had any lunch or dinner today but 14 plus beers.

Okay thank God. Alright great that'll make it easy for listeners. Alright just say a word. Banana. Okay Dave. Great for it. Okay Matt. Oh no he fucked it up. Fananas.

So we just wanted that we just did Matt to speak out the start so confirm he is here. He still hasn't missed an episode. He's really doing this, not because he wants to, but because he feels like he has to. Yes, do. But the beauty of it is the 49ers lost. So not only am I here, but I'm also a loser. Again, so we were recording the day of the Super Bowl, which is the day before, now a couple of days before this comes out,

and Matt got up and it was about 9am kickoff for a moment. 1am? Yeah, it was well there, notoff for a minute. One hour? Yeah, it was, well, it was there nine o'clock, had to be here. All right, so you've got to have pre drinks for the year, 10am kickoff. But it was a 10.30. It felt weird when I had a beer and I'm like, well,

at least I'll have time for a nap. Somehow I missed the nap and I've been drinking for like 14 hours. I don't know how that happened. Anyway, I cannot wait to sit quietly as one of you two tells an interesting story. Just want to flag that there is a couch in your office. And he's got that bin.

That is the sound of a bin. Okay. Which is a half full of trash. But if one of us, we won't say which one needs to vomit, there will be yes. Yes. So one of the throes has been drinking since 9 am this morning, about 14 hours ago. 12. It's 9 pm. Is it 9 pm? Yeah. I guess it's at 10 hours. Well actually, one of the throes is probably fine. You can't do maths. It's not not fine. It would be great if you got the ability to do that. From 9, 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. Okay.

Same time. 17 a.m. Okay. Okay. Well, I'll, what, sorry, one of us will sit here. I cannot believe how similar your jumpers are. Am I lost my plot? A little bit.

Okay. Well, I'm going to quietly sit back here. No. Because I'm the one who's so be here today. Before you do, could you explain how this show works? I love to know. Oh well, okay. Well, one of the three of us watches a Super Bowl every week. And the other two, one of the other two, a researches topic and one of the other three. Knows what that topic's about, and then one of those four or five understands what's going on, and they ask a question that brings us on to the topic,

and one of us will do it now. It won't be me, because I've been the sober one, and one of the other three or four will ask the question, and then it'll get us on to the topic, and we'll all have a good time. Yeah, great. Cannot wait for the plot twist, where at the end of the episode, I reveal that I've had six down to the US.

He sounded fine. Yeah, he sounds normal. Yeah, I can't wait for that too, because it was actually Jess Popp Perkins. Jess Popp Perkins. But I've secretly also been drinking all day to sound told you. I drive here. That's not a good idea. Never drink a drive. did not do why is the studio spinning? Oh boy. All right now

It is just a turn to do a topic so she can ask a question to get us onto that topic I don't know what it is Matt might have somehow gotten drunk and worked out what it is. Yes, it is 72 When he's drunk. He's telepathic. He's been drinking for 72. It's amazing Okay, my question is, which former spy is credited with introducing French cuisine to America? Oh, why are you asking gibberish? That's Queen Elizabeth II, a French spy. Are they French?

They brought it back with them. They brought French cuisine to America. Oh Is it um gas on? It's not gas on. Is it a guy Fieri? No Is it Anthony Bourdain? I'm trying to think of America. Is it ships? It's the only two on that. Yeah, who else is a chef? Female? A female chef? Good. Donna Hay. No Donna Summer. What about the name Julia Child? Oh, I have heard it. I vaguely, yeah, vaguely heard of that. Julia Child is the spy. She was.

In the 80s? No. No, absolutely not. No. What was she's spying on George Michael Those who he who's whammed she was a spy in the studio of water back Dave can you sing a little bit of a wham song because I know you're a big wham hand You're whammed No, enough gibberish. Can you sing a wandsong song? If I had a few more beers I'd be even better. Wake me up before you go go. And I'm like a yo-yo. Wake me up before you go go.

Take that to the side. I want to feel it. Shabb dance. Oh, I'm feeling it. Shabbat. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's a great, great try. Yeah, great try. One of the best of the eighties, and of course, Donna Hay was reporting from me in the studio, Julia Childe, her codename.

Yeah, it's weird, because Donna Hay's spy name was Julia Childe, and Julia Childe was Donna Hay. Isn't that a crazy? I can't keep up. I can't keep up. It's crazy, I don't know how. That is crazy. So I actually don't know anything about the topic at all. Well. What are you even talking about?

I absolutely forgot to look at who has suggested it. So I'm just going to look up now. I can Donna Hay. Donna Hay, Donna Summers. Take me down to the side. George Michael. She bowed. It's something that's just about one person. What?

Uh... That means it's a bad topic. From Nile, uh, from Melbourne. Um... A lot of pressure on Nile then. But it has been voted on by the Patreon. Oh, okay. And it was a pretty tight rate,

so I think it only won by a few votes. But still, um, the Patrons tight race. I think it only won by a few votes, but still the patrons have Spoken they're never wrong and I was I put up a bunch of like famous people And I said like who do you want to hear more about what kind of biography do you want to hear? And they chose Julia Child over Donna summers. I know Which other disco queens did they beat? Oh, yep. So...

Good question. I tell you what I want, what I really, really want. That's not disco. Okay. Honestly, when you said which spy, I thought you were going to say which spy girl. I've read that. That's what I...

Did you go that too? I think that must have been my right. And the answer is always. Which former spy Girl sports boys. Oh, it's the best. No I want to I want to I want to I want to really really really want to see Now please tell me about this topic just well Julia Carolyn Mick Williams was born in Pasadena California in 1912, a good year.

Her father, John, was a prominent land manager and her mother, also Julia, was an ares to the Western paper company. Even prior to founding the Western paper company. The Western paper company. West Don, like W-E-S-T-O-N. It was the surname, that's why. So even prior to founding the company, Julie's grandfather, Byron Curtis Western.

Oh, what? Byron Curtis Western. That's the kind of guy that starts a company and you go, all right, I'm following you. Yeah, because that's the name that goes down in history. I'll have all the stocks you got. He was already born into an extremely wealthy family. So Julia's upbringing was a very, very comfortable one. She was the oldest of three children, very reasonable number of children.

You know? You just have the perfect number in your own. I think so, yeah. Three children? Yeah, but I'm weird with numbers, aren't I? Why not an even number of? Four. Yeah, ten.

Two or four. Have two. Two or four or one no One not one Sorry to all the other You're old dick There I said somebody needs to tell you because your parents won't Parents like you're an angel. Oh, we love you so much here. Have all the money

Fuck you and work for it your little turds learn to share the money, fuck you and work for it, your little turds, learn to share. Anyway, yeah, work for it. Unlike these three people born as the children of an heiris who is the daughter of and another heiris. So Julia has a younger brother also called John after their father and a younger sister named Dorothy. In her autobiography from Julia's kitchen, she wrote about a time that her parents took them on a holiday to Tijuana in 1925 or 1926 and we're around this as she would have been out 13 or 14. Because a year long holiday. Yes. Wow, that's a pretty good trip.

And if you're that rich, you probably can go on holiday. Probably can. But they took them to Tijuana just so they could go meet Caesar Cardini and done his restaurant called Caesar's. What's so special about this? I hear you're asking days. Caesar's restaurant or you can eat. Caesar's restaurant. Is that what was so good about it?

It was the first all you can eat. Well, that's a travel to Mexico to visit and or you can eat a restaurant. Yeah, what a concept. Now they're on every corner. Caesar Cardini was an Italian restaurant her chef and hotel owner who along with his brother Alex is credited with creating the Caesar salad. Wait hang on that's notable. Is that true? Yeah. Is that really? And that's a great sign note for you on this report. Yeah. The family travel to Tijuana to try

a Caesar salad. Oh my god. Imagine livingijuana to try a Caesar salad. Oh my god. Imagine living in a world before Caesar salad. Imagine living in a world where it's not before Caesar salad. Caesar salad exists, but you know what it is, but you can't get it. Yeah, and you can't make it yourself. I'm just going to figure out what it is. Can we take a photo of you two in the same thing?

Because everyone else is not freaking out like me, because you look like you're wearing the same thing. One is orange and one is pink. Okay, sorry, I probably lost that. We're both in this. If you could explain to the people, what is a Caesar salad, apart from lettuce and food?

What else is it? Letters and food. A little bit of beckhorn. Yeah, bacon, croutons. Yes. Croutons. Egg. Okay, a Caesar salad. It's a green Beckhorn. Yeah, bacon croutons. Yes, egg. Okay, it sees a salad It's a green salad of romaine lettuce and croutons dressed with lemon juice olive oil egg

Worcestershire sauce and chauvin's garlic Dejuan mustard parmesan cheese and black pepper. Well, that sounds good. It's a lot. It's nearly all-sourced Yeah, it's like it's a lettuce with a lot of sauce. I think it really realized No, I present some Yeah, and the crunch of the croutons. lot of sauce. I think it really relies on sauce. No, I present sauce. And the crunch of the croutons. Oh, which is sale bread. The crunch is important. A sale bread.

Well, I actually, I don't want to, I actually don't want to take over this podcast right now, but I actually watch the whole season of the Australian break off. What's like, I'm seeing so many sales. How many sales a day make on the show. Well, they do not make any season cells. How much cell would they bake in?

Okay, clearly, but I said. Yes. And she said, well, actually, she probably never mentioned, but one of the chef guys or something. Bakers? Bakers. They said, oh, look at that crunch. And they said that a lot.

Okay. Look at the eye, this is a crunch. Mm-hmm. Give me that crunch. And they said that a lot. Okay. Look at the eye. This is a crunch. Get a villa crunch. Yeah. And I went, oh, they said crunch a lot. Villa crunch. Okay. And I believed that that's something really cooking. Is that sound? Crunch. Yeah. I believe so. I have a salad. The bread. the creature it is. Oh, Dave tell me more about that. It tells more about style bread. I think you cut into small pieces and they get even more style. Okay. Even stanchilla. And they get suddenly, but they get to a point, it's like terminal velocity, where they're so crunchy, that they start to become uncrunchy.

Why are you eating it? Oh, I don't even understand. Like they go chewy or something. Yeah, they become, yeah. That sounds actually sounds stupid what you just said. Jess, could you make some sense of this? I can't, but I can move on. Thank you.

That way, maybe that'll shut him up, you know. We'll, Dave will stop talking about crunch and shit. That's all I want. Me too. Yeah, sorry, sorry, that I'm the one that deep-run, that conversation. But they went, they traveled to another country to experience the Caesar salad. Caesar salad. Another crunch.

That is the... What's it they would have said? Tonight, you've taken me to another crunchy. Yeah, I know. We're all on the same plane. I think that is the level of opulence. Like now if I went to another country to try it a new soup I'm gonna pop over and I'll do it country. They're Chinese. Yeah, I've heard Spain's got an amazing new soup I'm just gonna duck over and try

That's a real funny. That's so funny. That's funny. But they just had to go to try to think of that. A little ceasus or just ceasus. I just have to say a little ceasus. That's that chain. A little ceasus. This is a regular ceasus. So anyway, that was just a little tidbit about her life. To give you an idea that she definitely lived a very comfortable life.

Yeah, I love it. So in 1934, she graduated from Smith College with a history major Smith College! That sounds like it's fake! Smith College! That's not real! It is real! Smith College! Smith College! It's all the big ones you got. Harvard! It's in your favorite! Massachusetts! Oh Smith, Massachusetts! Massachusetts! I love Massachusetts!

That's the closest to corrective ever pronouncing. Yeah, that's pretty good. It just takes 16 beats. I love Massachusetts. This man's college, Massachusetts. Yeah, very good college. I'd love to learn about words over there. I'd love to learn about apples.

Oh, my goodness. How do you like them, Granny? So, please go on. She said that's what I showed you the big call. Please go on, please go on. She said, that's what I showed you to be called. Please go on. Please go on. She said that her time at Smith was spent doing theater, creative writing and playing basketball.

She was famously told by the way, she was about 6'2". Oh wow. Like people came from Mexico just to see this tall woman. To see her. I was like, wow. You make big sees and look small, stand up a day. Wow. Oh my goodness.

So 6'2", that is. 6'2". That's tall. Especially at the time, this is in the the theses. And for a woman, that's very tall. Honestly, if I stood up, I wouldn't even be that tall. No, you're not that tall. That's a weird way of saying it. Because I'm shorter than that. Yeah, if I stood up, it wouldn't even me that tall. No, you're not that tall. That's a weird way of saying it.

Because I'm shorter than that. Yeah, if I stood up, I'd be at the corner deep and be at. I'm sitting right now. I think everyone pictures us. Give me a thing to stand on. No. How tall is it? That's a bad idea. Oh, I won't stand on it.

Okay. Because it's not tall enough. I'll alone stand on the thing. There's a list too, and just tall. Give me a... Do you reckon you're a six foot? Are you six foot? I said at least I'm around six foot.

Okay. I've been measured at six foot, and I've been measured at just below six foot. Right. Which I think is what we're all about the same, right? Yeah, I'm six foot, for sure. I'm six foot two, which is the heart of the soul. I'm pretty sure we're all about the same heart. You're definitely taller than us.

But we're all about six foot. We're similar issues. We're all human-sized. Yeah, we're all about the same hot you're definitely told enough, but we're all about Similar issues. Yeah, we are all humans. Oh, so in the Super Bowl What are the players? The team I should go for what's their name? surname human Because that's funny. That's funny, but it's not right. What's it name?

Person. This one, I'm the back of this shirt. This person. Person. There's like a million players in his name. And one of the players on the 49ers is person. Actually, my name is person. I cried laughing.

It doesn't like the, the name you put on the back of a jersey when you're creating a video game. You need to stand in there. Can we get a stand-in name here? Johnny Person. Johnny Person. That seems a little silly, but that'll do

Honestly, you're joking the Super Bowl had a player called person today I can't control his name actually you can't He could definitely change your energy on it. No, you're right. He can't control his name It's not a control Guys I'm trying to catch it. Anyway. All right, time out. Your team couldn't catch shit. Yep, time out. Don't engage, don't engage. That is actually fair and a lot of ways. So after graduating from Smith College, which definitely exists, she moved to Manhattan wanting to become a famous novelist.

She landed a job as a copywriter in the advertising department for a W and J Sloan, which was a prominent furniture and rug store in New York City that catered to the elite, including the White House. So it was like a fancy, hoity-toity business, which, funnily enough, went bankrupt in 1985. I don't know. We only deal with the absolute elite. We're out of money. What era are we talking about now?

When she graduated from... It's business in college. So it would have been 1934. So it's the 30s. So in 37, she returned to California to help look after her mother who was sick and passed away at the age of 60. And Julia stayed close to home for a couple of years, writing for a few local publications

and working and advertising. Do you get the feeling that she's inherited quite a lot of money from this RS? Good point, I'm not sure about... I suppose if it was a father's still alive, maybe we'd get a hit. Yeah, what happened with her dad? I'm not sure. But they're very comfortable and she's working anyway.

But then World War II happened and Julia wanted to do her bit. So she attempted to enlist in the Women's Army Corps or the US Navy's waves, like the Women's Navy, but she was rejected because she was too tall. Really? Yeah. I felt that. I believe that they're We Australia when they first wanted people for I think it was the first world war They wanted people as a certain high

Soldiers but as the war went on and they became more or more desperate people like anyone they kept lowering it like you know It's 180 then it's 170 that is very much a novelty ride The police used to be like that though. They used to be, I mean, maybe there still is a height requirement, but they've lowered it a lot. It used to be quite tall. Do you think there's a maximum police? Yeah, I don't know.

Because I'd be like, you're seven foot. You're actually two tall heights hour. We do not have pants for you. We do not have a convertible. You can't fit in the car. You're right. You actually, those sound effects you make when you're in the mouth, they're too much. Yeah, they let him in, but they let someone tall in. My goons look.

Your wind's low. Yeah, that's fun. So she's too tall. The original man of a thousand knows you. The OG. Your senseo in many ways. In so many ways, my sensei. You taught you everything you know.

Yeah, because he, in you say sensei. And you probably think about as like a word. But do me that to noise. I'll sensei. In a lot of ways, all words and noises, aren't they? Oh my god, you get it. Yeah. It's really quite poetic. Honestly, Jess, you don't sense that.

So she's rejected because she's too tall. So she joins the Office of Strategic Services, the OSS, which was the predecessor for the CIA basically. She starts out as a typist in the Washington headquarters for the OSS, but it wasn't long until her experience and education set her apart from her peers and she was given more responsibility. Um, she... So I just want... If her responsibility is getting stuff off, I'm really tall, so...

Julia, could you give me a hand? Can you fetch me that thing? What are you bringing that no one else does? Hi, okay, that's good. Yeah, see that jug up there? I can get that. I don't even need to go find a sturdy chair. Yeah, I can.

I can't straight away. I could get a non-stirty chair. And just put it down, but I still don't need to stand on it. Could you get it? Could you get it? Could you get it all? Good, you don't even need a chair. Yeah, I'll go get the un-stirty chair, I guess.

It's a weird request, but all right. But she proved herself. She proved herself, and she's working as a top secret researcher, working directly for the head of the OSS, General William J. Donovan. While she's working for the OSS, she was instrumental in a very weird invention. Oh, I got a banjo. I love this. Oh, but I think ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

She created that riff. Yeah, she did actually. This is from history.com. Shark attacks were actually quite rare. Shark attack. Only 20 had taken place in less than three years of wartime, but frenzied media accounts had bred panic among front men. Morale was low.

There was another reason to find a way to detract curious or hungry sharks. On some occasions, American naval explosives had been accidentally set off by inquisitive sharks, mistaking them for a snack. So they decided they needed to work out some kind of shark repellent. So two men headed this investigation. There was Captain Harold J. Coolidge, who is a scientist from the Harvard Museum of Comparative Zoology, and Dr. Henry Field, who was a curator of the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago. So all throughout 1943, Julia was Coolidge's executive assistant, and she was working closely on this project

as well. And over the course of a year, they experimented with over a hundred combinations of ingredients to try and make a sharp repellent. Like a spray or punch it in the nose. Punch it in the nose. Punch it in the nose. Batman told us that. It's just a glove on a propeller thing. Oh my gosh, I wish people could see podcasts because you just did it.

It does a shark there. It's fucked. You got him. I got that shark. That shark goes, ow got him. I got that shark. That shark's fucked. And that shark goes, oh, I'm dying! I'm dying! No! No, I'm dying!

You know when you can hit in the nose, it's sort of like, you eyes are watering and it just stings. That happened the other day a shark hit me and it's not a shark. What? Yeah, it was the worst. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I lied, it wasn't a shark, but it was a shark like person. Okay. Was it a name person? It was Dave. I lied it wasn't a shock but it was a shock like person It was Dave yeah Dave did punch you on the nose the other day, but you deserved it too You'll be an assassin little bitch. I did do it. I did. I was about to bite him on the bar

And he punched you punch on the nose So anyway, they're working on all these different combinations. What's going on? Yeah, it's a bit crazy The final recipe was a mixture of copper, acetate, and black dye, which together gave off a smell rather like a dead shark, which I would have thought would attract. They'd be like sweet. Free meat.

Free meal. But for some reason it worked. It wasn't perfect. Apparently the success rate was a little over 60%. But it was better than nothing, and it kept sharks away from about six to seven hours per dose. So it meant sharks weren't... So you have to give it to the shark.

Or do you give it the water? No, so they would put it like they would sort of attach it to the explosive that they were planting in the water because it was designed to like set traps for the enemy stuff. I think it's enough time to rough. So, you know, sail away. Exactly. Sail away. Sail away.

Sail away. Sail away. You. Sail away. Sail away. Sail away. Sail away. You got on here. Oh yeah. I'm always glad you're here. That is actually very no else. Will you message us a lot tomorrow or apologize? Probably. No, no, no. Probably. I'm gonna make you not. I'm gonna make you listen back to

the service. Yeah, yeah. I will never lose another. That is your punishment. I'm gonna make you listen back to the service crew. Yeah, yeah. I will never lose the benefit. That is your punishment. I will not listen to this. You have to. But I will look at this bucket next to me. You just have a look at the bucket. It's so full of...

How is it so full of cups? It's already. That's other podcasters that have drunk too much have vomited into little cups and then put it in the bin. Yeah. So keep it in the little cup, please. In an interview, decades later, Julia said, I understand the shark repellent we developed is being used today for down space equipment,

strapped around it so the sharks won't attack it when it lands in the ocean. Probably they might still be using it. I don't know if that's true. How would they do that? Every bit of equipment has one of these shark things attached to it. Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, so she's working for the OSS. In 1944, she's posted to Candy in what is now Sri Lanka. Okay, a lot of what you've said is gibberish. The OSS Candy, can you explain any of that? Sri Lanka never. She gets sent to Sri Lanka. Yeah, what's OSS?

You've explained it. Precursed to the CIA. Yeah, it's like a CIA. And Candy, I know that's a place in Shrinker. What is now Shrinker? Shrinker's what a great place. Well Julia liked it. A lot of Shrinker.

Very Craig. Very Craig. Love Shrinker. That's sick. All right, I'm loving it. Go away to hear more. Well her responsibilities there included registering, cataloging and channeling a great volume of highly classified communications for the OSS and

she was later posted to China where she received the emblem of meritorious civilian service. It's the second highest award and medal provided to civilian employees with in agencies of the federal government of the United States. So she's like, she's very good at her job. Right, but based in China. She's based in China now. And when it was while she was working in China that she met a man named Paul Child, who was also working for the OSS, Paul was 10 years her senior. Oh, by this age, Julie is in her early 30s. So he's in his early 40s. But they hit it off and they married a couple years later

in 1946 in Pennsylvania, obviously after the war ended. Paul also had a pretty interesting child, he was a pretty childhood. He had a stick coming out of his arm. No one did anything about it. Oh, get there. Dad never asked. Oh, get there, how are we getting there? Dad never asked. Oh, yeah, look, Dad. Interesting childhood.

He was a twin, he had a twin brother called Charlie. That is in Winkleworth. Was that Winkleworth? No, it was Charles. Okay. Charlie Child. It's a bad man. Charlie Child.

That's bad. He's fucked that up. There's Johnny, put Johnny person in Charlie Child. That's terrible. What's fucked that up. There's Johnny put Johnny person in Charlie char. That's terrible. What's wrong with America? How they know? Honestly, if Americans see what you're wearing tonight, I cannot believe it. I wish people would see.

We'll take a pic. Why are you wearing the same head top? They haven't got them tops over there, probably. It's a good top. Beautiful tops. Yeah, we bought them together. It is weird, okay. Did you really buy them? No, but I was a day before that.

I was once I'd just was there in England when I bought this jumper. Yeah, we got the seal of approval. Yeah, no yours is fine, just as better. Why have you worn them tonight? Like especially Dave, you're wearing a slightly worse top than just, why would you do that on the same night, you're wearing a slightly worse top than Jess. Why would you do that on the same night, Jess is wearing a slightly better top than you?

I think we've both picked tops that we can pull off. I don't think I would look great in that. And I wouldn't look good in that. Jess looks really nice on top. You're not thinking that I can pull off my like three years ago, San Francisco 49ers top. Is that what you mean, Bob? Yeah, that Francisco 49ers stop. Is that what you mean? Yeah, that's what we mean.

We dress appropriately for us, you know? Well, I didn't know that this would be a loser team this morning when I put it on. I also didn't know that the Australian man on the back of the shirt wouldn't, wouldn't not have played a game for quite a few years. I was like another morning. You went to know. That's your plan. You've heard the answer isn't probably not a good guy. Right. But that's alleged. You're wearing his you top all day. I really think that someone should get you Johnny Persons top the next.

I'll honestly have fun. This is a flake old person. I don't know what that, I want that jersey. I want it. Okay, well we'll make it happen. All I want, all I'm saying is I want it. You say you'll make it. I'm not doing it. Fuck no, I'm sorry.

You make it. I'll knit it. Because I only wear knit jumps. Then you can look like that. Well I can, I'm looking at you. I know you're only wearing knit jumpers. We also can look like that. Well, I can, I'm looking at you. I know you're only wearing knit and jumpers. We also like the name Charlie Child. Oh, Charlie Child.

Which is the twin of the Paul Child. He is and the son of Gary Persson. No, their father actually died when they were about six months old. Oh, this is from an article in town and country magazines. His Charlie was brawier, louder, more charismatic and less sensitive than Paul. When they were seven, Charlie accidentally blinded Paul's left eye with a sewing needle.

Oh, wow, oh, God! Paul! Wait, what? Paul never complained about it, and managed to earn a black belt in judo, could later drive a car, and taught perspective drawing. So Paul was just kind of like a very chilled out,

quiet, reserved kind of person. And a taught perspective drawing. Yeah. And I imagine perspective drawing. Yeah. And I imagine because obviously having two eyes gives you more perspective. Exactly. Yeah, that's right. That's very impressive. You did.

So just a backtrack. I don't know the details. No, I want this to talk about it, but I'm so fascinated by being blinded with a need. That is so awful. I have no idea. Matt just spat into a bin. That's how awful that is. Is that disgusting?

Well, actually, what Jess said was even more awful than me spit him to a bin. Which I enjoyed doing. Charlie was apparently the favorite twin, so their mother's name was Bertha. Which is a bad day. That is actually the most awful thing you've said. Bertha. Her name is Bertha Child. Bertha.

Oh my God. What did you do on the weekend Bertha Child? the most awful thing you've said. Birthday. Can I name his birth a child? Birthday. Oh my God. What did you do on the weekend, birth a child? Oh, actually, I did. I had two. Oh my God, I did not even realize. Can I name his birth a child? I have been chosen.

I can't even laugh. I can't even laugh. If we've broken Jess, it's too funny. But back then you can't not take his name. I know you can't be like, I really, really like this guy, but I'll have a minute. But my name would be Bertha Child. And we lost the Super Bowl and I can still laugh. At birth a child.

Anyway, one of her like boyfriends for a while paid Charlie's tuition at Harvard, but he only paid for tuition for one year at Columbia for Paul. So Charlie was like sent off to Harvard, schools paid for it, don't worry about it. Paul, you can have a year at Columbia for Paul. So Charlie was like sent off to Harvard. Yeah, schools paid for it, don't worry about it. Paul, you can have a year at Columbia. It does annoy me. Then you're on your own. You're in favor of the one who blinded the other one. Yeah. If anything, it should be the other way around.

Yeah, I reckon too. Which of them can score touch, yeah? That's what I'm on. Which can? Who can? So yeah, Paul went to Columbia for a year and when his money ran out and he worked on ships, it odd jobs and traveled across the country. For much of the 1920s and 30s, he worked in Italy, France and the United States as a private shooter and teacher. So we did a lot of traveling. A private shooter.

Yeah. A classic job. We've all had it. We'll done it. I mean, we've all worked a few months as a private shooter He did a lot. Can you explain a little more? Obviously Davin, I've done it. Yeah, yeah, could you explain a little more about Years as a private

Two I mean, how do you summarize? Oh, no, I'm sorry someone up in a few words So sure you go and live in somewhere nice like Italy or France and do you are hired by an incredibly wealthy family The parents of which don't really care that much for their children Yeah, and so they just hire you to like teach them some basic shit. Yeah, we've all lived it all lived it We've all shot a few things In Italy. Yeah, of course we've shot a few things. So, Miss Herd private shooter. Wait, can you say? Wait, am I a miss hearing it? Say it again? Private shooter. Okay, I have, I have miss, I have a multiple times of miss, everyone

Dave said, I'm miss her. I mean you and doing set of you misheard private shooter. I thought he said private shooter. Tutan boys. Tutan. We'll stop talking. Now. I will try. Okay.

I just looked at me like, will you? Will you actually, honestly, I thought Dave was saying it. Private shooter. I thought- Shoot private shooter I thought I thought you said shooter I know that Dave said shooter when he tried to explain shoot very funny very good honestly people wind her back I reckon Dave said shooter I said it I'm reading the report did you say shooter no I said shooter well I think she said shooter, I'm reading the report. Did you say shooter? No, I said shooter. Well, I think she said shooter too. Dave, I also think he said shooter. Anyway.

And I also think Dave, as in just a shooter. Okay. So this is Paul still traveling. Yeah, so he's traveling around. He was a very talented painter, poet and writer, and he was known to his friends to have a sophisticated palate. He loved good food and he introduced Juliette a fine cuisine.

Before they were married, she'd actually, she'd grown up in a home with a cook with like, pal. So she'd never learnt to cook. So before they got married, she'd taken some introductory cooking lessons. Some couscous, couscous. Step one.

I had a little introductory couscous. LAUGHTER Yes, go on. I'm just gonna close them. Step one, add a little introductory, because this is... Okay. Yes, go on. Well, she wanted to be a good wife to her foodie husband. So she went and did some introductory cooking courses before they got married, so she'd be able to feed him. I need to do that.

Yeah, you do. Introductionally cookery. Here's how to make some toast. I love that. Do you wanna come over to my house? I'll teach you to cook. Actually, can you? Yeah, that'd be fine.

I genuinely need help. Okay, so I just saw the message I sent you before and I said, my Uber driver has mixed feelings about Ned Kelly. Yeah. And I do not know what that means. And then Dave goes, can you hear how the super driver flip flopped on Ned?

I don't know what that means. I don't remember it. I shouldn't have brought it up. I regret regretting you. And on we go. I wish we had a film in the school. This is so far 36 minutes of a regret. Yeah.

It's the most regret passes ever. Oh my God. What do you think I was talking about? But Nick Kelly. Yeah, no No, you bought that up out of nowhere and I even when you arrived here I even said what was he saying about Ned Kelly? And you said I have no idea what you talking about. I had no idea what you're talking about like I was the crazy Well, this actually sounds like I'm being silly on purpose and our regrett it could you edit me out? like I'm being silly on purpose and I regret it could you edit me out. No, I wish I could. I really do wish. I wish we could somehow hire a private shoe to the come in and take it.

Why would have an added and added a driver to talk about net Kelly? So anyway, Paul joins the United States foreign services. And in 1948, the couple moved to Paris when the US State Department assigned Paul there as an Exhibits Officer with the United States Information Agency. I think he was like literally setting up like our exhibitions and stuff. I think. Raka, yeah. Not 100% sure, but that's what he was, yeah, that's what his job title was and they got to move to Paris. And Julia recalled her first meal in France as a culinary revelation. Wow, at the airport.

Yeah, Mac is his different. Yeah, this is so weird. It's not mischievous though. No, don't do it. So she described the meal of oysters and fine wine to the New York Times as an opening up of the soul and spirit for me. So she's like, she's had a whole revelation. Right.

So she tried a few activities while living in Paris to occupy her time, but nothing really caught her interest. Well, she's trying. Well, she's, well, okay. So here's the thing. Part of my research was watching the 2009 film, Julia. Julia, it just, it just occurred to me that is about this person. It's dying, Meryl Streep, and as Paul Child, Stanley Tucci.

Oh my God, the Tuch. I love the Tuch. The Tuch. So who is Julie? Okay, so what happens is in the film, and in real life, it's based on a book, This woman working in like a call center like decides to go through Julia's book, spoiler alert, there's a book that she writes.

Come on up. Oh, okay, okay. Come on up. Actually, I haven't seen the film, so that's actually a bit disrespectful. But she did move to New York to become a famous writer. Oh, okay, Dave, thank you for filling me in. Jess.

So, anyway, she decides to cook every single recipe in this French cookbook. Oh, okay. Actually, spoiler alert. And she had a blog about it, and then later it got turned into a book. So they're not friends? No, no, no. So what it is is like this is... Julia actually hates Julia.

Because Julia is in 2002, so what it is is like Julia actually hates Julia because Julie is in 2002 and Obviously Julia is back in who's an actually an asshole Julia Yeah, I actually think so okay You think so cuz she's like really adored in America Well a lot of American listeners. Okay. Well, is it actually excuse me, but is it actually excuse me? I found to for me to actually say that one of those two was actually a real problem.

Okay, I'm sorry. Is that true? So 50% chance that it's, I'm sorry, I'm actually sorry to tell the truth there, but one of them is a problem issue So anyway the point of the reason I brought up that just why why did you turn your whole body away from me? I just forgot I was like why we told you Why just honestly why is your whole body away from me towards that?

Just even here just you know Just so you know, Matt. As you know, I've recently got a puppy. And they told us that when he's barking while you're eating, what you're supposed to do is completely turn your body away. And just ignore him. And eventually you'll get the point and he'll stop barking. Matt, are you getting this point? Actually, he's not a puppy.

He's a poochie, which is the name of the actor. Stanley Poochie. Stanley a poochie. Yeah. If I remember his first time as Stanley, that would have really worked. I am going to say... Actually, his name is actually Stanley a poochie. Could you edit it out there in the middle of it?

Because that's fun. If you could email me just this snippet, and we can send it to Matt tomorrow, that would be the... I will not listen to it. Just 10 seconds to you saying Stanley a poochie. If you could email me just this snippet, and we can send it to Matt tomorrow, that would be the not listen to it. Just 10 seconds to you saying Stanley Apucci, you will hate yourself. Honestly, think Stanley Apucci is very fun.

He's great. I think that might be a meme tomorrow. Okay, let's say if you remember it in 10 minutes, then I'll be here. Well, I'm not gonna, I don't wanna have, no one don't at me, because I don't care. Anyway, that's fun. The reason that we brought up the film is because you said what activities were she doing? Well, I'm not gonna, I don't wanna have no one don't at me because I don't care. Anyway, that's fun.

The reason that we brought up the film is because you said what activities were she doing? Oh, in the film. And who knows how? Actually, I was by a family. I too could. Who knows how. How accurate that is. But she was trying like hat making and she was taking French classes and stuff.

I think she'd done that in the States as well. So she had some French, but she was trying to get it better. So she wasn't working in the States. So she's got a lot of time to fill. Yeah. And so she's kind of bored and she's like, I'm not really a state. They didn't have any children. They got married and she was already in a mid 30s. He was old. He was old. So they didn't have any kids. So. 30s. Honestly, if you're in your 30s, just I think it's too far going. Isn't it? Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. At least. Okay. far. How far?

Okay, yeah, how long? Six months, I got six months of it being worth living. It's more. Seven months. Well, not quite. Okay, six in a bit. Is that all right Dave? Yeah.

It should be on my side here. Help me now. I'm sorry. Honestly, you with the same knits. I just, I don't believe two salmon did it. This is what he knows having a go at me This is what people wear yeah, I was what the kids were yeah It's gonna be the most tiring episode to listen to I'm so sorry. I will not talk anymore. That's not true

Also, what is this about? So it's about Baba Doss. Yeah, it's about Baba Doss. She's trying to find something to occupy her time. So she ended up in rolling in the famous French cooking school, le codon bleu. Oh, well pronounced. Is that where God on Bleu is from? That's not what I said.

Originally, she was placed in this introductory class for housewives when she found to be boring and a bit too basic. She's like, yeah, I know how to boil an egg. That's where I need to be. Yeah, and that's why. That's okay. That's okay. For housewives, yes.

Well, they say, this is an oven and I get out my book and I write ovens. Okay. Okay. So what does it do? It gets hot. Slow down, A.K. She's a bit bored in the introductory class. She's like, can I do something a little bit more challenging, please?

So there was a top-tier class where they were like, where Heston Blumethore comes in and says, recreate that, no instructions. And you're like, what? What? She ended up joining this year-long program with 11 other students, no instructions. And you're like, what? What? She ended up joining this year long program with 11 other students, all men. There was kind of designed for professional restaurateurs.

And under the tutelage of chef Max Bergnaud, Julia thrived and developed a passion for food, especially French cuisine. She joined the exclusive Women's cooking club, which was called Les Circle des Gormais. What does that mean? It's hard to know. But there she met a couple of women, one called Simone Beck, who was riding a French cookbook for Americans with her friend, Louise Z. Bethel, Bethel. Sorry about my French.

The three women became friends and soon opened up a cooking school together teaching women to cook French cuisine. So you're telling me that someone who grew up not being able to cook has now teaching. Has tried to be like famous enough as a chef one day

that in the hundred years people talk about them on a podcast. Do I still have time? You have time. She couldn't cook. That's really impressive. She was in her mid 30s. She was impressive. But yeah, she just seems like a real kind of go-getter.

Like she just, and also, you know, like the way it's depicted in the film, the woman who runs the cooking school, it's very expensive. You probably can't afford it. And she was like, how much we took around? Because she's well-sweet. She's an air-rest of course. Exactly. I mean, Sheena has been a very comfortable,

like they're living in really beautiful houses and stuff in Paris, and they're wealthy. Damn. But she was just passionate. That's all it takes. And she was dedicated to it, and she was competitive, and like, you know, it shows in the film, and again, it's a fucking film, but they're like,

all chopping onions in the first class and she's slower than everybody else. So then that night she's just, there's this massive pile of onions in their kitchen at home because she's practicing. Like she's dedicated to it, that's what you gotta do, you gotta stick at it. Her husband wakes up, why am I crying?

I'm horrendous with onions. I had to get those, I had to get like specific glasses, it looked like day-medna glasses, and they're called like onion goggles, and I've gotta put them on, and they still don't, sometimes I wear literal swimming goggles to cut onions, or make a aid and do it. If Aidan's at home, he's in charge of onions,

he knows that, then he knows that's his job. He's not home, I'm fucked. But he can't, he doesn't really, really. He's fine, like he might be a little bit like, ah, but as soon as I can't one-open, I'm, my eyes are, I'm fucked, but he can't he doesn't really he's fine like he might be a little bit like ah, but as soon as I Can't one open I my eyes are I'm gone it's Very embarrassing anyway, so now that they're

They're open their own little cooking school and they're teaching women how to cook and they only charged a few dollars for Classes which was barely enough to cover the costs to ingredients and equipment, but Julia was Loving it and, so it's all good. Okay, after a while Simone and Louisette asked Julia if she could collaborate with them on their book that they were cooking, cooking, fucking, cooking, writing, they were writing a book, they'd gotten feedback that it wasn't clear enough for an English-speaking audience, because they were trying to introduce French cuisine to an American audience. So they needed someone with better English than them. Oh, right.

They're native French speakers. Exactly, yes, they're French. So over the next decade. Does anything about getting Gabrielle Gâteau? Gabrielle Gâteau. Gabrielle Gâteau. My favorite about Gabrielle Gâteau. We've talked about this problem on the show before.

I just love how he says potatoes. So you get the Pote Do, you throw in the Tomato. Pote Do. Oh, I love him. It makes it sounds more delicious. So he is a French.

He is delicious. Chef that had been the the the the the the the the the the the the

the the the the the the the the the the the a Latest of Latua during the tour of the Forts of the Year. What a fucking legend. But last year was this last year, he wrapped it up. It was from time. Who will replace him?

He's our poirot in a lot of ways. He solves so many crimes. He's our crimes against the kitchen. He's our sushi. He's our sushi. That's quite good. That's quite good. That's quite good, Matt. Thank you.

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The three women researched and repeatedly tested recipes. Child would translate the French into English making the recipes detailed, interesting and practical. Ten years. Ten years. This is all while Julia and Paul move Paul. Why can't I talk today? Moved around Europe and then eventually back to the States with his work. But she's still in contact with the other two French women. This entire time she's working on recipes, she's testing them, and she's obviously developing her own skills too. In 1952 she read an article in a magazine from a writer named Bernad de Voto about kitchen

knives, not a particularly interesting article but she wrote to him to compliment anyone his piece. She agreed with everything he was saying about sterling steel. I imagine that he's got hundreds of fan letters up from this course. Obviously, Matt's trying to take a photo of us in matching this. We'll get a good photo, don't you worry? Um, so anyway, she writes to him to say, hey, love to you piece. His wife, Avis, who also worked as his secretary, responded to Julia's letter, which began a lifelong penpal friendship.

They would write to each other. They didn't meet in person until a few years later in 1954, but they wrote over a hundred letters to each other in that two-year period. And would she consider her pen-pell the husband or the wife? No, the wife. So it happened like she wrote a letter to Bernard saying, I like this piece, Avis replies as his secretary, but also happens to be his wife.

Saying, yeah, thanks, Phil, yada, yada, yada, they write back and forth, back and forth, and they just become friends. And it was Avis, who helped Julia's book be seen by publishers, Horton Mifflin, and they said that the book was too long and rejected the manuscript, which was a historical stuff up on their part.

Paul left the diplomatic corps in 1961, and the couple decided to return to the US for good, settling in Cambridge, Massachusetts. You wanna have a go? I love Massachusetts so much. It's so much fun because I don't think you meant to actually say the Chutes at the park, but I love saying Massachusetts. Massachusetts. I always say Massachusetts, but I don't think you meant to say it like that.

Hey, it's supposed to say it though. Dave, you'll say it. Hey, it's supposed to say it though. Dave, you'll say it properly. Well, if you put the chewsis. Massa chewsis. Yeah. Massa chewsits. Right. There's only a piece of the same massa chewsits.

Massa chewsits. It's fucking fun. Massa chewsits. Yeah, there's only a piece of the end. Yeah. Nailed it. Massa chewsits. Don't toyed at us.

So I move into their new house in Cambridge with little money house in Cambridge with little money and few expectations. Right. And at this stage, the book hasn't come out yet. Book hasn't come out yet. She's only 50 years old. Yeah. Okay, right. Yeah. And so in a letter to a friend, she said, we'll be living quite modestly, but I figure if I can give two cooking lessons a week at about $40 a throw That'll bring in a little bit of money for us. So living in they were living in like quite lavish places around Europe and Now that he's sort of retired they're kind of like well, we've got to live a little more modestly now So to save money Paul designed the kitchen of their new home himself

And he was mindful that his tall wife had been stooping in their tiny European kitchens. Of course, I forgot that she's very tall. She's very tall. And there was a picture that he took in their Paris kitchen and she's staring a pot. And it's almost at her knee level, it's so low. I think they were lower in Europe anyway. And she's already quite tall.

So he raised the counters up and made like a Julia sized kitchen. And aware of her passion for order, he figured out the perfect place for every pot and pan and drew its outline on a pegboard. So everything had a place and she liked things hanging up. So there was space everywhere for things to hang. She could see everything. She had like so many knives. She loved knives.

Sam Rassauds she loved it and Julia was feeling a little deflated and a bit defeated by the book rejection But Ava's didn't give up and got the book to a connection she had at a different publishing house Alfred A Noth That can't be right, but who knows so finally the book was published in 1961 and it was 726 pages called Mastering the Art of French Cooking. Okay, I'm not a publisher but that is too long. Right, but I mean like they they had so many different options and that's what

they went for. Mastering the Art of French Cooking. I didn't mind it. Oh the book pages. I was thinking of the title. Oh no, no, no, no pages. I and that's what they went for. Mastering me out of French cooking. Seven hundred. I don't mind it. Oh, the book pages. I was thinking, you made the title. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Julie and Julia, which ever way it is, she cooks them all. She cooks them all in 365 days. 500 keep in mind. More than one a day. Some would be stuff like sources or maybe 90% of the mass sources. Or you would be like a huge chunk that is or like different ways to cook eggs or they'd be dessert. So she might do like a main and a dessert. She might be able to knock out three in a

day. Is there a part? Is there a page on how to make gravy? Probably. Oh my goodness. But I don't think I want to read this book. That sounds great. I don't think they will say a dollop of tomato sauce. For a little sweetness and an extra tang. I think I love tangus. And a franken dolly. I say how to make jiu. Yeah, yeah. It would be lots of that as well. So I mean, obviously it must be doable because she did it. It's got to be doable. And was that a full-time job? Has it worked or anything else? When she was doing 500 recipes in a year?

Yeah. She was working. So she was working, this is 2002, and she was working. I can't remember the name of the organization, but she was on the phone speaking to people about the redevelopment of Ground Zero and insurance claims from people who'd lost families in there, it was a really harrowing and awful job.

And so as a bit of an escape, she was cooking. Okay, Jess, I just think that, because I apologize and I will not talk for a while again after and you I understand why. I don't know. Love this preface. But you're saying it's doable, but is it... Why?

Is it... Juible. Are you trying to say Ju? Damn it. Why was it doable? Yeah. I thought you were definitely gonna whip out your... I'll say try my best to learn French in French. Ah, that's doable. Ah, I thought you were definitely gonna whip out you I'll say trumpet vegetable impression

Oh, that's doable. Oh, that's doable So when I watched the Super Bowl today, and I won talk after this, but there was at this ad to come up a bit where and everyone's like, yeah, it's your mate And I'm like, I and I was a guy who can't look like Alex there. Oh, is there is Alex there on a Superboy. I don't I don't think I was a super boy. Where he's like standing in a swamp or something It really looked like him. I was like and did you think to ask L or you're just gonna ask us? No, I thought you would know I really I thought one of us would know no, I don't know but I'm I you know I hope I don't really hope it. Oh look, I'm not saying bad for L. In the fighting stretch. Oh, bad for L. Bad for L. Bad for L. Hey, where's my

ad where I'm standing in a swamp? Yeah, that's why I say what we're all feeling right now. Standing in a swamp. Anyway, so the book, mastering the art of French cooking, it was a best seller received critical acclaim that derived, in part from the American interest in French culture in the early 60s. So like, by luck, not maybe a bit of luck, but like, yeah, timing. Yeah, timing, exactly.

Americans were really into French culture at the time, and she goes, oh, well, he's a book I've been working on for 10 years. Not just her, obviously, it was a team effort, but it was also lauded for its helpful illustrations and precise attention to detail and for making fine cuisine accessible. The book is still in print

and is considered a seminal culinary work. Still a big deal. Right. So by that point, Julia is nearly 50 and her book has finally been published and that is barely the beginning for her. In 1962, she made an appearance on a book review show on WGBHTV and what I think was

embossed in and it led to the inception of her first television cooking show. After viewers enjoyed her demonstration of how to cook an omelet. So she just went on this book review show and showed people how to make an omelet and people were like, I like her. I want to see more of her. So then they gave her her own show and it was called The French Chef and it had its debut in February 1963 and was immediately successful. The show ran nationally for 10 years and won a Peabody and an Emmy Award, including the first Emmy Award for an educational program. Wow.

Those. Cool, that. It's huge. And she wasn't the first television cook, but she was the most widely seen. And people loved her because she was very cheery and enthusiastic and she had this distinctive voice, which, Meryl Streep, mimics pretty well on the film.

What, so why, she was this distinctive voice, which Meryl Streep mimics pretty well really well in the film. So why she was the first to, they basically invented a ward for her? No, so it would have been an Emmy for an educational program. But they invented it. That didn't exist before her. That's how cool that. Oh yeah, maybe, okay, yeah. To win the first of any version of an award, I reckon that's like, maybe they didn't invent it for you, but once you win it, they prove that basically, it doesn't exist without you,

because why would it, if you didn't win it? Why does it sound like... I thought it all sounds like I'm interested. I think you will, I think you will. I thought it was something interesting. I think you were. I think you were. She had this very distinctive voice and she was really unpatronizing and she was just very cool and she would always sign off with her catchphrase which was born the upper teeth.

Oh, I love that. She sounds like everything I'm not. Unpatteronizing. signing off with Bon Appetit. I don't know any of these. You don't do that. No. In 1972, this is a little fun fact. The French chef became the first television program to be captioned for the deaf, even though this was done, I don't understand why I added this sentence, but anyway, that's just a little fun fact for you. That's it. So she's releasing more books as well in this time too.

So she released a second book called The French Chef Cookbook and it was a collection of recipes she demonstrated on the show. It was soon followed by mastering the art of French cooking volume two. And is she still collaborating with the other French people? Oh my god, my next sentence is again in collaboration with Simone Beck but not with Louise Z. Oh what happened to Louise Z? The professional relationship ended apparently in the film but so who knows but in the film it sort of seemed like Louise Z wasn't she wasn't around as much or she'd kind of like she was a bit flaky she didn't put in as much work as the other two did. Right but hopefully it was on good terms she's still got a bit of a payoff from the first part. Yeah I'm

sure she was fine. Certain dishes you want flakiness, but... Ha ha ha ha! It really depends on what you're going to do before. Sometimes you just want to crunch. Yeah. Oh. Look at that. Oh, that's a beautiful crunch.

But she and Simone were like very good friends. They're all like... I just watched the four stays on a strained, greatest, strained back off. And on certain dishes, they're dishes they're like what a beautiful crime you already said this story on this episode about 40 minutes ago I did not recall that anyway that's what I was referencing when I said crunch. I have no recollection of that. I honestly think this is a probably a good time to say do not drink alcohol if you're a human.

Yeah, don't do it. And don't turn up to work after. If I want to ask, oh, that actually feels a little bit pointed. Yeah, yeah, man. If I was to ask you right now, who this episode is about, could you tell me? Julia and Juliet. Is that alright?

Well, that's close. I'll probably give you a pass. Yeah, give me a pass. That's alright. But that is, you still have to launch it to the story. It's hard to buy Clare Hooper. Yeah, we have. I bought it until, oh my god, that's real bad.

About the crunch? Yeah. Oh, that poor Rubidrive. He probably just kept talking about Nick Charlie and he's like, what are you talking about? I'm like, this guy's got some weird opinions on Nick. I've had a look and it was an expensive Rubidrive. So he just dropped you in that car for a long time.

Oh my goodness. I'm so sorry for everyone, especially the people listening. Really, only the people listening. That's okay. Jess and I will forgive me, but the listeners. I'm getting nervous. Good talk.

She's a very interesting lady. Yeah, and when you're, Julia, or Julia. I couldn't even get everything in there. Like she's just given awards and, she releases so many books. She's... Yes?

I just wanted to say, I'm sure there's probably American listeners who are like, I can't believe it, because I've only heard the name. I would even recognize a photo of it. Yeah. But I'm sure there's people that are like, how could you not know her? But for me, not growing up in that generation and not growing up in the country where she's super famous, I knew nothing really. Oh, yeah.

So she's a famous American person. Yeah, yeah. Usually famous in America. Wow, it's like huge over there, apparently. I should have known. She's a door. So I wasn't super surprised that she was chosen in the Patreon. Right.

I thought I assumed she was a famous French person, but she's American. She's famous for bringing the French stuff back. Yeah. And then making it accessible. And you probably mentioned that at this point tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, at the start. So her second book was called The French Chef Cookbook. Oh no, I've already said that one. Her fourth book. Honestly, Jess, don't repeat yourself. Sorry, man. That's embarrassing. It is embarrassing. That's good. Her fourth

book was from Julia Child's kitchen and it was illustrated by her husband with photographs and documentation. What's wrong? It dropped his phone. Oh, that's okay. That'll be all right. Yeah, so she's used her husband's photos to illustrate the book. It's nice that he took the photos. Yeah, so he was always taking photos and sketching things for her and he was an excellent supporter

I sound like a great couple I reckon they're couple's goals. I sound sick Do you have any idea what happened to Charlie child? No, I'm not sure about child I was really rooting against him and I should I have been he did blind his brother. Yeah, no And was favored, but that's not his fault No, but to be fair I read one article that mentioned him and it was an article that sort of focused on the marriage between Julia and Paul and how they were really nice, like, couple and very supportive each other, a real unit

and it talked about Charlie and how Julia didn't particularly like him because he was just like, he was antagonistic. He was always kind of like, even in Paul's heaps of letters, to Julia and to Charlie. And in all the letters, Paul's kind of like offering advice on things or like, because Charlie was a painter

even though Paul was probably more talented, this article said. And so Paul would sort of be like, oh, you could do this. But like Charlie was always just talking about himself It sounds like he was a little bit of a dick right. I could but he's probably he's long dead now. I'm actually feeling pretty attacked right now Why is this about me? You are not a painter nor is your name Charlie not a nor

What do you know? Yeah, do you. Anyway, so she's become this household name. Like we were just talking about, people adore her. It was the 60s, and her show was unedited, so any mistakes or blunders were shown, which made people relate to her because she was authentic and she was real. She's frequently set fire to the house. I don't know, like, ah, well, but now if she, like, if she didn't flip something... That's cool.

I love that. I love a show that doesn't edit. Just show us all the plucky, the bloody, I love that. I love a show that doesn't add it just show us all the puppy The bloody the blocky the blocky Something like if she drops the ups and downs if she tried to flip something and it didn't flip perfectly She was like that's okay. I love it. I love the idea that there's another show where they're like nope But let's flip it again So in the 70s and 80s she was was a star of numerous television programs, including Julia Child

and Company, Julia Child and more company, dinner at Julia's. And for the 1979 book, Julia Child and more company, she won a National Book Award in the category of current interests. She's winning awards left right in the center, it's insane. Current interests is one of the big book awards as well. Is that right, Dave? You're a book man. Yeah, I've had them. She went

on to publish nearly 20 titles under her name and with others. 20 books and she started at 50. She started at 50 years old. Yeah. Oh, there's hope. I feel like that's a problem. She didn't even start cooking until she was in her 30s. Yeah. and then she became this huge. And then the most famous cook in the country. Damn, how long to use 30? We've talked about that as well on this episode. Six and a bit more. Six and a half months. Eat really that far away.

I believe in you. I'm thinking of cooking. She was like early to mid 30s, you can do it. I'm just saying, like influential and famous, I just like the idea, not necessarily cooking, but there might be something else that I don't even know that I could do. Yeah.

But become my passion, like my passion, like fashion, for example. Passion, like fashion. Or judo, or something, you know? Like I become the world's best. Like, schnudo. All right, we can all rhyme. Yes, I become the world's best rhyme.

Give me a word or rhyme at any word go grime time Alright, these will fill it fill it fill it fill it's Ropathy Julin Mopoli. I got you you thought you had it there and he fucking got you well I do feel stupid wasn't real. Do you feel stupid? Philanth Real word Philanthropathy I feel like I added an extra syllable. Here, hey, here's one thing you might be able to relate to, I don't know. One thing that Julia loved most was butter.

Oh, okay, do you like butter? I love butter. I like butter. She liked butter. She liked butter. She liked butter. I like butter. And who use of ingredients like butter and cream has been questioned by food critics and

modern day nutritionists? Oh, piss off. Heavy on the butter. Piss off. Heavy on butter and cream. But in the interview in 1999, she said, ugh, everyone's overreacting. If fear of food continues, it'll be the death of gastronomy in the United States. Fortunately, the French don't suffer from the same hysteria that we do.

We should enjoy food and have fun. It's one of the simplest and nicest pleasures in life. Preach Julia. Isn't that good? Preach. But also in moderation, guys. Yeah, well, that's the thing. It's like, she's making these extravagant French desserts,

perhaps you don't need to eat that four or five times a day. No, but when you put the effort in it, someone makes it, and it's fucking delicious. Yes. Enjoy a bit of it. It's all right. Enjoy the creamy goodness. Yum. So she loves butter.

In the 80s, she had a regular segment on Good Morning America, and she even traveled to Italy to do a five-part series on Italian food for the show's audience. The show received over 100,000 letters about this segment she did. They were mad for it. They loved her and they loved her on GMA. In 1991, she worked with the Boston University to launch a Masters of Liberal Arts degree in gastronomy. And in 1993, she was inducted into the culinary

institute of America's Hall of Fame, the first woman to ever be inducted in 1993. Wow, she's pretty old by that. Yeah. In her 80s. Yeah, she's in her 80s. And in 1994, sadly, her husband Paul passed away at the age of 92. Great work, Paul. Good on your Paul. She had 50 good years together. Yeah. And in one of her cookbooks, the French chef cookbook, she summed up her relationship with Paul. And she said this, she said, Paul Child, the man who is always there, Porter, dishwasher, official photographer,

mushroom dyeser, and onion chopper, editor, fish illustrator, manager, taster. Fish illustrator. Yeah, he drew the fish. IDMN,, Manager, Taster. Fish Illustrator. Okay, true the fish. I do a man, resident poet and husband. That is great. That's nice. The longest business card I've ever had.

He does it all. And I like how she left husband to last. That's the most important, best for last. Oh, I thought you leave the least important. That's how the French do it, best for last. Best for last. Best for last. Best for last. Don't you, when you're eating a meal,

don't you save a little bit of your face? Yeah, I always say, Rikitoni, lasagna, sauce, mushrooms, saute, bit of Spanish homicide,

husband. That's how I always describe my dish. I've still got what you eat a meal. How often are you describing dishes? All the time. Yeah, that's true. You do have a lecture. I'm always describing it. I Throws. Of your life. I'm gonna fucking kill you.

In the year 2000, Julia Child received the French Legion of Honor. Still alive. Still alive. She was awarded the US Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2003. She received honorary doctorates from Harvard University, Johnson and Wales University, Smith College, Brown University University and several others.

You got another one from Smith. Smith, that's the thing that was probably reference earlier. You were fascinated by it, mate. I love the idea of Smith, and I know obviously. We know, yeah, we know you love the idea. She was inducted into the National Women's Hall of Fame in 2007. There's a women's hall of fame. Yeah, we need a separate one.

As a yes, yes, yes, yes, but can't wear the famous women. Yeah, but is there a men's hall of like you know, it's usually specific like there's a sports person. Very good. I wear the men's hall of fame. I agree with Dave. You love us.

What about us? You love a rock and roll hall of fame. But is there- No, honestly, Daisy, you can't swim. Is there one? It's just for women of all fields. Women's the women's Hall of Fame. The women's Hall of Fame, that's fun.

I've never heard of it. I want to look with that. I'll look it up. So the American institution created in 1969. Ah, the summer of love. In New York. Anyway. There you go. She's also in. Ah, the summer of love. In New York. Anyway. There you go.

I'm sure she's also in the culinary hall of fame. You said she was the first woman in the cast. No, no, sorry. The women's culinary hall of fame. And she was the first woman in that as well. She's the only one. On August 13, 2004, Julia Child died of kidney failure in Montecito, California, two days before her

90-second birthday. So it's a good innings. All good things must come to an end. That's true, very well spoken. And her last meal was one of her favorite dishes. Ah. French onion soup. Oh, that sounds real yuck.

Yeah, it's pretty gross. With lots of butter? Probably. But when you're 92, you've got to suck it down. Could I get one that is edible with a straw? Oh, yeah. Gotta take my teeth out. The same is for breakfast and lunch and dinner.

For the first time in a very long time, I've added some fun facts. Oh, I'm so I'm really excited. I haven't done this in youngs. I don't know how fun they are. I love fun facts. Well, as always, just what a side. It's my fault. And in my stead will be Jess, me. You will be Jess.

In your stead. In my stead. You're gonna be Jess. You'll be Jess. Me. So she loved Butters so much that there was a buddy yellow Rose variety named after her. Yes.

It's a rose that's like a yellowy color. That is fun. The Julia Choll. Oh, I'm a yellowy color. That is fun. The Julia Choll. Oh, I'm having fun with this. That is so good. When you're saying this person that you've probably been talking about for what an hour, I guess, is she being the subject?

Yes. Well, my goodness, me. What a fun fact. That is great. Now, honestly, that is a really fun fact. Here's another one. Her kitchen, which was used as a set for three of her cooking shows, was donated and is now on display at the National Museum of American History in Washington, D.C. That is a fun fact. I'm having so much fun. I can't even believe it.

I want to fake it, but I can't. I'm having fun. Oh my god, I feel so good about this. One more. The 2009 film, Julian Julia, which we Oh my God, I feel so good about this. One more. The 2009 film, Julie and Julia, which we've talked about, was based on two books. It was based on Julia Charles Memoir, My Life in France, and a book written by Julie Powell, Julie and Julia, my year of cooking dangerously.

The success of this film, combined with a tied-in reissue of the 40th anniversary edition, caused master of the, mastering the art of French cooking to once again become a bestseller in the United States 48 years after its initial release. Honestly, that is fucking making me feel so happy. I feel like I'm having the most fun of my whole life. Throw me a bloody fun bowl because I want to juggle it.

That's that much fun I'm having. I want to juggle a fun bowl. We got a. I'm having I want a juggler fun ball We get a fun ball in here get a fun ball That's sick that's three of the funnest facts of ever heard Three fun facts. I fucking did it honestly I mean the report was so fun let alone the facts. Yeah, honestly that is so sick. I love everything about it Who do you love? Who was that about? Julia and Julia. I thought it was a great report about two and especially one of

the best French and American cuisines of all time. Well that was my report on Julia. Great work. Yes, that was honestly. Honestly, impressive that you could get through that. Get like having that much fun. That was genuinely so much fun. We did it. I've been watching the grocery store. I don't know, one point. They talked about crunch.

I said that and the crunch thing. The full story. Oh my God. The full story. That is the worst thing I've ever heard Can you edit it out? Absolutely not. I don't know how I could. That's the funniest part of the whole show I was made something important and you felt the need to bring up crunch again. There was certain you were making it a reference I'm so sorry, but can you understand that my team lost the Super Bowl and a bowl What do you eat at all? I guess Super Bowl and a bowl is what you ate out of, I guess.

Super Bowl of French soup, the final meal. Onion. Honestly, that was real great. It's awful. The best thing about it, I wish it. And I really thought coming into this room, the best thing about it was going to be that you're wearing the same jumper. But it wasn't. Your report was even better than that.

We're happy to help. But hey, I think for this week, because it's time for everybody's favorite part of the show. Oh my goodness. That's right. It's our Patreon section of the show. Now, people support the show on Patreon. It really does keep it going. It makes it come. It makes sure it comes out every week. Rain, hail, or El Holic Shop. You said it makes it come. You said it makes it come back., they make it come because we were actually meant to recall this a few days ago. Yes, and we Fucked it up. We fucked up. We didn't have the tools to do it. And now I had to do it on Super Bowl day Which was not meant to be how it was gonna go. Look ad job doesn't require a lot of equipment. Okay. Thank you But finally we someone said it.

We fucked up. We fucked up the equipment we had. Is it a weird that I was not meant to be here now? And in a lot of ways, we're a laughing in Matt Bean a bit of a fuckhead, but he wasn't actually meant to do this. He'd planned his old day around not being here. He was meant to be in bed or something better. So all I want to say is that we're all having a good time and that's great to be here.

And it's time for everyone's favorite part of the show. That's right, people support the show on Patreon. And if they do that, you can get a whole bunch of rewards. Oh my goodness. There's two bonus episodes that come out every month that are on the list. People here, you get to vote for the topics. See what the show is going to be all about. There's a Facebook group where people chat about stuff.

There's a lot of rewards. I very infrequently put out a newsletter. That's right. You do, Jass actually, weekly, ideally, puts out a newsletter. It hasn't been weekly for a while. Well, I mean, I think a lot of that was the Christmas last summer. It's so much fun.

It is. But I think normally you put it out weekly. I get it. The last few months has been a bit, you know, I've been full on for everyone. Jesus' birth. It's so much weekly. I get there. I reckon the last few months has been a bit you know I've been full on for everyone Jesus is birth. Me especially. Oh, but you're also you're not only supporting Dugan you're also supporting D- and I was on Dage podcast this week and it felt so good to be on there. It was great to have you on and you hadn't had a single thing to drink. What was that like? It was I was boring actually. It was a really fun episode so Matt was on with Casemite Show's book cheat where I tell them about a famous book and it was part one and two of three of Charles

Dickens a tale of two cities. Which is also what is that going to be about episode 40. So you've talked about a lot of classic books. Yeah that's right so you can check that out and you're also supporting match shows. Primates three talks about primates in popular culture. Yes, which I, the most recent episode was about the Star Wars mini series, the Mandalorian, which is a lot of fun. I love that series. It was actually the first time that we had of all four of us on the show. We all gave it a perfect score. It was actually I was surprised by that because I loved it. Obviously, I gave it a perfect score. Whoa! It was actually I was surprised by that, because I loved it. Obviously, I gave it a perfect score, but I was surprised that everyone...

It was unanimously loved, so that was a lot of fun. That's great. And I do another show about rock and roll music, if you like, rock. And a couple of the nerds in this room probably don't. We love Semen Jumpers. Oh, yeah, and Kellers Semen Adity. But I love rock, and we do a show with my cousin Sam about rock and rock music called Listen Now.

The first season was about Colchism, probably the rock and a spand of all time. Yeah, probably, but anyway, one of the things you get to do at a certain level is submit a fact, a quote or a question. That's right, and we read it out and those people give us their name and then it also gives themselves a title. We also read it. Just you want to do one another and usually that's a mess. We're taking the role away from it. I wonder why you were actually taking the computer out of my hands. But I now that I know what you're doing, I appreciate it. All right, our first factor quote or question of this week is Karen Loader.

Karen Loader. Great name, that Karen. And Karen has given themselves the name or the nickname, the title, the Sydney Shineberg Apparition Club President Slash Treasurer. Fantastic nickname. I already love Karen Loader, is he? That's a great name. That sounds like a rock name. Yeah, Karen Loader. Front woman of a band, Karen Loader.

Karen Loader and the minnets. Yeah, playing guitar and singing. Karen Loader, love it. So thanks Karen Loader, Cindy Shibay, apparition club president slash treasurer. And she has given us a question. Why did you not think that minnats was a weird thing to say? I can't let that go.

Like everyone's listening to going, oh, everyone thought that was a good thing to say. It wasn't. All right, now let's move on. We've got a question from Karen. And in true Matt fashion, I actually haven't read this in advance. So here we go.

The question for us from Karen is, what is the one thing that people do that really pisses you off when in public? Well, okay, well, that's not make this about me just Well, Matt's been doing a bit of it. I hate when people spit in public He's spread to a bit you're not in public. That was not that bad. I find that Yeah, that's to be absolutely actually really gross. It is her I would never do that I just I was walking on the footpath

and just stop, or walking in like a middle of a shopping center and they just stop and like look at their phone or something, yeah. I'm like, pull over! Put the indicator on, pull over. Pull over! I was driving today through an area.

You were driving? This morning, pre, as a very beginning of the day, pre-super bowl. Yes. And there was just a car in front of me that was just, I mean, this is an, I don't know what the question was. What pieces you are. But it was the car in front of me just started meandering like hoping, hoping that someone would open up a car park. Like, asshole, pull over, or keep driving, one of the two.

Yeah, very frustrated. So, I can't, what is a clown car? When people don't say thank you in the car, well, I don't give you a little wave, and you let it be. My big, you. You could have scraped my car, ripped off my wing mirror,

and told me to go fuck myself, but at the end, if you'd give me a wave and said, thanks, I'd be like you are forgiven, I love you you. Yeah big time. I'll forgive any behavior if you give a wave but if even if I let you and you don't thank me I do wish death upon you I get really angry at that moment. Yeah big time. Way real bad people. Yeah. If that was your question yeah you're right. Yeah. We're bad people. What makes you sound like a bad person on this podcast? Correct. Thank you Karen. Thank you Karen. What pisses you off Karen? Tell us

Karen tell us Karen Tadik Karis Tadik So Karis Karis Karis Tadik Honestly Karen tell us on one of the good if you're on the

What's the thing with her? Patron. Patron yet on the Facebook group. Yep. it on the Facebook group. Also on the Patreon group. Tell us on one of those Karen. Karen, I love your name. I honestly, Karen is a name that sometimes gets made fun of. I love Karen as a name. It's a sick name.

Do you? Yeah, I love it. What's her name? Loader. Person. I love Karen person. A fantastic name. Karen Loader is even better. He's another name you'll love as well though because I'm gonna

Read one as well and this week. It's from soap Waldron. Oh, I love soap Waldron. We love so I went and saw a band called cold chisel with soap Waldron. You did We had I was actually probably more drunk than this well and I when you walked in you said you've never been this drunk. Did I? Well that was a lie. You did say, no, I've never been this drunk for so long. And how long ago was that geek? Like two, three weekends ago?

Two, three weekends ago. No. I should have said on a Monday morning. There we go. So soaps title, she goes, I'm sticking with unofficial photographer of the live shows because I can't think of anything. Well that's good because soap has been possibly to more live shows than any other person

on this earth. Yeah, I reckon that might be right. She's got to be up there. And there's always very friendly, love to have a chat with us at the end, we love to have a chat to soap as well. And because she's so friendly, other people see her and ask, hey, will you take a photo of us? Yeah, she's always the one taking the photos.

And we appreciate it. We love you. So, she's always the one taking the photos. And we appreciate it. We love you. So, Sof has gone for a quote. I love a quote. I have some more work that'd be done by me. I also haven't read this. And I also don't have to talk about Jess or Dave's Identical Salmon Sweaters.

It's, I mean, I've never known alcohol to give someone colorblindness. You're the rustic salmon. This is very similar. We need to take a photo and close it. It's close enough to be the same, basically. It's in the same world. So this quote from so is there is no iron in the iron you use to iron your shirts,

which is ironically both ironic and unironic. And that quote was from Jeremy Irons. Oh my God, who played Scar. So it's going to be so disappointed because she added, I have no idea if he actually said that, but the idea of making Matt read this out without practicing in advance was too entertaining. Oh, sorry. So sorry, so if he was too shit-faced to do it.

Let me read it. No, no, we just don't have time. I don't want you throwing up on my laptop. I need to say Jeremy's iron. That's fantastic, so I read it in my mind, even if Justin let me read it, out loud. We also have to thank some people. I'm Jeremy Ions. That's my

written person. I should have him. That's pretty good. I'm Scott. I'm an English man and a lion. I didn't really change my voice. Could you do that in post? Yes. Thank you. So finally what we like to do as well is just give a shout out to some people who support us on Patreon, which you can do at patreon. Just give a shout out to some people who support us on Patreon, which you can do at patreon.com forward slash do go on pod. Absolutely. And we usually play a game that you come up with Jess, who sort of thank read up people's names and then give them a little nickname or something. What do you think? Should we name their cookbook? Oh fantastic. Oh yes. Is that a good idea? I love it. Okay great. Easy. Do you want to kick things off day?

I'd love to kick things off. Now first of all, I would like to thank all the way from an unknown address. I have not trusted us with their address, but thank you so much for your support anyway. Christina Nitschki. Christina Nitschki. Love the name Christina. I'm not sure where you're on the world, but appreciate you supporting the show. Christina Nitschke. Alright, Christina Nitschke's cookbook. The Spanish Handbag. Oh, fantastic. Love that. The Spanish Handbag. Spanish Handbag. I love that. What's the theme?

Spanish food. Yes. And it all dishes yeah that have things inside them I love that it's like a croquet like a pie yeah yeah these are my favorite things how how's Nitschki's belt is not like Nietzsche like NIT SCHKE. Right. I think Dave now. Because all I can think of is the Tism song about Nietzsche, which is something I wish I could remember. It was one of their early demos,

but it's called something like Went and Saw a Nietzsche double feature. Is it like that? Yes. Does that help? Yep. We'll come working in. Yeah, we'll work it in post. Thank you, Christina. I'd also like to thank this time from Glasgow. Fantastic part of the world that we were not that long ago. Nile, Adam Dixon. And I do. You know, it was on that Billy Connolly and also Jimmy Barnes previous Top of the show. Yes, well

NAD in a D. No, I'll add on dick somebody think for a cookbook. I Would say based on the fact that he's from the place that Jimmy Barnes is from I'd call it but... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Thanks for saving a lot about a culinary guide through the wild wild west after that That's the that's the screaming galbo cookbook a culinary guide to the wild wild west. Yeah, I love it Yeah, I love it. You've nailed it. I think Nand should make this now. It's gonna make it Are we doing should we thank two people each and or do you want to go for three? I'll do three I won't go for you Honestly, you've actually not letting me look at the... No. I can't.

I'm taking it away. One more person for me this week. I'd like to thank from Melbourne right here in... Vickie. Yeah. Can you see? Well, we've taken it away from you. Rowan Hitchcock.

Rowan Hitchcock. I love the cock. Okay, what about some kind of Hitchcock film? The 39 steps to making meals. Ah, the birds. Eight the birds. Feet the birds. These are famous.

A bag. Toppins. Toppins. Toppins. A bag. Beautiful. Plenty, plenty of options there. So yeah, row and hitchcock a pleasure to have you on the patreon and maybe we'll see We're doing our shows that Melbourne County Festival kind of soon. Maybe we'll see there row Our JP would you like to thank a few people? I would I would like to thank a good friend of ours

from Leicester In the UK our photographer friend. Fuck off. What? It's Liam! Cuein! Liam! I love this man so much. It's a great man.

Is it a weird that a photographer is hotter than everyone else? It's crazy. Get in front of the camera, you're hot. Get in front. Hey, don't objectify him though. Sorry, no. Honestly, honestly, a great photographer. And it doesn't even matter that he's hot.

Doesn't matter. Doesn't even matter. Doesn't define you. Doesn't matter. And a nice guy, too. It doesn't matter that he's nice. And I'd love to hang out with him all the time and look at him.

It doesn't even matter in that way. Do you actually go surfing with him? You're a love surfing. Oh yeah, I'd go surfing with him either. I'd hang 10, 25. So what would Lanes cook with be called? It would be like a photography based one wouldn't it like pictures of me?

Oh yes. Which is honestly the best part of cookbook. Yeah, oh yeah, looking in and going, oh, it'll model never look at that good. No, no, no. Which is what I think when I look at his face. I thought, something like hot food nude. That's hot nude food hot nude food hot nude food.

Tastily hot nude food hot noons and then food is in much smaller print. Because that's the one thing about him. And I think we found it when he photographer to us. Yes. It's very tasteful. Oh, our nudity was so tasty. Yeah, you can tell you like what do I need to be nude backstage here? Or I was like, trust the process.

And I said, I guess like, by the end of the night, I felt it was weird when I was putting my clothes back on. Yeah, felt on that. I still feel weird to put clothes on. And I certainly feel weird, what's in you wearing salmon nits? So people are gonna be so disappointed.

I would never wear salmon, just putting that on the right cross knit salmon. You've talked about it so much. It's wild. It's the fact that you're wearing basically the same top. It is crazy. You know what else is crazy? I love the lamb.

Thank you lamb. And I'd also love to thank. That was actually the best of everhood. Thank you so much. From Box Hill North here in Victoria, I would love to thank Ruby O'Day. Oh, that's a great name. That's a great one. That's a great name. Box Hill Hawks, one of the state-based footy teams.

Yeah. What about Ruby? Okay, what for Ruby? Ruby Murray. And it's a book entirely about curries. Ruby Murray is rhyming slang for Curries. Oh, I love it. Yeah, I love that. It's a curry book called Ruby Murray. Ruby Murray and it's also and that book is in a cube. Yes. I love that. On display. Rubyx. Thank you for showing you working out there. Rubyx. I got a shirt that I'm working there. Rubik's. Thank you for showing you working out there. Rubik.

I gotta share the work in there. Rubik's. Rubik's. Thank you, Rubik. Rubik, have a Rubik Murray. I love it. On the house. I actually can't wait to do it a carry now.

Yeah. What's your favorite carry? Massa man. Oh, you're a Massa man, Fane. Fair enough. Love a Massa man. What's the one that we sometimes get when it's like a creamy ball of potato?

Like yours is. It's like a goby or something. Spice and veggies. I know what you're like. You need all the words to be in English. Because there's no spice in your life. I love the dal. Oh yeah, dal fan.

What's the one? Is that called? Is that called? No, it's called like a goby or something like that. Yeah, goby is a good. Gobi, you love gobby. I love gobby. You love gobbies. Put me down for one. Nope, two. I'm a big goby fan but no I am Dars. I'm a big I'm a big Dars fan too. Dars, let me tell you. Dars, let me tell you.

Hey I've got, I've got well two more people to think but looks of this next. Okay. Entry. Again, no record of where they're from, so we can only guess, but I would love to thank. I reckon Bermuda. Cameron Bass. Oh. And Nick McLean. Nick McLean.

Oh, right. How are they a combo? And why? I don't know. I don't know. I don't fucking make the rules. That's just how they wrote their name on Patreon. Could be Cameron Basel.

Could be Basel Basel. Cameron Basel in the playstand. And I love that. Because there's been a few good cooking jiuos. I remember the 90s enjoying two-pet ladies. Julian Julius. Yeah. Do you remember two-pet ladies?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're around on their bike? And what about the the the theiker, the hairy biker combo? Oh, yeah. What are they called? The hairy biker bros? Hairy bikers? I don't know. And that's as surfy Aussie bros?

So you're thinking these are a fun duo? A duo. Yeah. Do you think the three of us could be a cool cooking duo? No. Dave can't cook. Yeah, that's why you're a good duo. That's right, yeah.

David be the front. Can you make cocktails or something? I know the water. Where did the washing up? Wearing the backband front and Dave's in the front being hot. Yeah. Like, did you? Why can't I be the hot one?

Well, on YouTube recently, two people said Dave's hot. And normally everyone else says we're annoying. So when they said he was hot, I'm like, what's going on? Some positive comments. Matt screenshot it and sent it to our group chat. It was like, check this out. It made me feel good. I felt good too.

I felt good too. That said, I was hot. Well, I already knew it. You were a hot man. You probably don't see it because you're always looking at me. But you are hot. Appreciate me. But you are hot. Appreciate that. Thank you so much. What about this duo, this fantastic Cameron base

and Nick McLean? Oh. All right, should we go for a word association? Yeah, word association. Matt's in last. Okay. I mean, bass is already a fish. McLean is already what you do at the end of a cooking day. I'll set it up.

Jess has a word, Matt has a word. Yeah. The two. Fresh. Hads. The Jess has a word about says a word. Yeah. The two... Fresh. Hads. The two fresh heads. That's pretty good. They are.

If you look at them, they are too. Real fresh heads. Oh, go ahead. Oh, look at those fresh heads. Couple of fresh heads on them. I'm glad the word I said was a real word. Hads. It's real.

I say that. I'm glad they use say, yeah. You mold it into a word. Yeah. That's a team effort. Hads. Just like the team effort from Cameron,in, Nick McLean, thanks for supporting the show on Patreon and all the people that do, it makes our lives a lot easier. We can do it every week because of you.

And if you want to join the club, again, it's patreon.com slash do go on pod. Yeah. And you go to our website do go on pod.com where you can buy t-shirts and pins that are on sale now. And the big finale, well, I mean, pretty much ends the show, but is there anyone to induct into the triptitch club? I don't know, because where is that? We'll work that out next week, don't worry about it.

I'll do it next week, see you next week. Fantastic, don't you worry about it. Well, everyone, sit on the edge of your seats. It's exciting. It could be you. It could be you. Did you support Patreon? I mean, three years ago, because it could be you. Well, thank you so much for listening to us talk this week. Hey, we got that.

As we do everyone, the fact that you two couldn't figure that out makes me feel almost worthwhile. And if you still listening to this, Don't be great, you're fucking tabs in this Google dog. Hey, mate, I'd tab it up. But yeah, we will be back next week, probably with a more sober episode. But hey, every now and then, it's been a while since we've had drunk one and people have been requesting it. So let us know. What did you think? How tedious was it?

If you hated it, probably don't. Yeah, actually, we know. I wanted to put a caveat there saying, I only let us know if it's positive, if you loved it. Yeah, if you hated it, it's alright. I love to live in a happy place. If you hated it, it's positive feedback. That's fine, just did too.

Yeah, thank you so much for listening, and until next week, we'll say thank you, and goodbye! Later! Bye! So. So. Bye. So.

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