Two In The Think Tank - 225 - The Man Who Broke Out Of Prison To Climb a Mountain

Episode Date: February 12, 2020

In 1941 Italian man Felice Benuzzi was held as a prisoner of war in a camp near the foot of Mt. Kenya. Bored of the prison life, he started to dream of breaking out and climbing the mountain, this is his wild story.Buy tickets to our live shows in MELBOURNE here: https://dogoonpod.com/events/Matt is performing his new stand up show MONKEY HOUSE in BRISBANE March 10-15 and MELBOURNE March 26-April 19, find more details/get tickets here: https://mattstewartcomedy.com/gigs (use the code 'podcast' for a special listener discount)Jess is performing her debut solo stand up show ALMOST in MELBOURNE March 26-April 19, get tickets here: https://www.comedyfestival.com.au/2020/shows/almostOur website: dogoonpod.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicCome to the Sanspants vs Planet Broadcasting Gameshow Showdown : https://m.moshtix.com.au/v2/event/plumbing-the-death-star/119488?skin=4406&fbclid=IwAR0J6Vm7PhBgS_QRj8L95o57Z22twh6hHnN6WfK6yH2RUEmrPlkUCSBge9E Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2015/07/29/felice-benuzzis-extraordinary-climb-of-mount-kenya/https://www.waterstones.com/blog/no-picnic-on-mount-kenya-felice-benuzzis-daughter-reflects-on-her-fathers-adventure

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No worries. Thank you to a five minute walk. See you then. See you then, comedyfestival.com.au. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Wanuki and I'm sitting here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Hello.

Hello. Together at last. Yeah. The first time we've ever been in a room together. Dream team. Dream team. I had no idea you were so tall. Thank you. I'm sitting down.

Can you believe me? What? I know. I know. And Matt, you are the most beautiful specimen I have ever seen. Yeah. You sound less surprised by that. Goodness.

I had a feeling. Yeah. Hearing your voice, you sound like that. I'm surprised by that. Goodness, I had a feeling. Yeah, friend. Hearing your voice, I was like, oh boy. Photos don't do that face justice. God no. Yeah, it was, it was like I'm photogenic, but that's actually the opposite. There's not enough pixels on Earth to capture that beauty.

Yeah. Yeah. So congrats on that. Thank you so much. Yeah, you got good knee feedback for me at all. Meeting me for the first time. It's great to be here with Matt. I got a snow.

Yep, there it is. I haven't even looked at you once. He's so tall. I'm going to have to. You know how? Well, look how beautiful Matt is. I know. Compared to me.

Oh, friends like old friends. So I don't remember last week's episode, nearly at all. We should address that. and I should say that, obviously drinking responsibility is important. Wait, did I say drinking responsibility? Have you been drinking again? No, I haven't. I haven't had a drink since.

I'm not drinking there for a month. It's a short month. Yeah. You cheat. You pick the shortest month. Oh, no, no booze. Well, but is it leap year, is that correct? Yeah, so itze. Well, but is Olympia, is that correct? Yes, it's 29 hours, but I did start on the four.

Did you panic when you saw the 29th? You were like, oh god. No, I don't mind not drinking for a while. I would say it got a little out of hand last week. I'd say 95% of the feedback was, we loved it. Yeah. That was very funny. And the rest of you, well, Matt, sorry, but this week's week. Hopefully you've come back. That's 5%.

Apologies to the silent five. Anyway, this show, did I explain this last week? I imagine I explained it pretty eloquently. Oh, yes. Jess got you to do it, actually, and it was quite. It is so bad, but I genuinely have very little. I remember saying about the crunch the second time. They're not the first. And I do not have the guts to go back and listen to it.

Anyway, apologies if anyone found that too tedious. But this week it will be tedious for a different reason, because I'm just me normal. So the way this show works, one of the three of us researches a topic usually being suggested by a listener. And this week is no different. This week I've done the research. One of the three of us researches a topic usually being suggested by a listener and this week is no different. This week I've done the research, I've got the topic and to get us onto the topic I'm going to ask this question. It's sort of, it's topic adjacent to the question, but I thought I'd ask a genuine question

that you might have a chance of getting right because I don't think you would have heard of the topic. Okay. Okay. Don't ever assume that I won't know it. All right, well I'll ask you a five question. I'll ask you a five question. I'll surprise you.

Great. My question is, which European country invaded and occupied Ethiopia between 1935 and 1941? I'm looking straight today. He's our geography boy and also a history boy. Yeah, it's our war boy. And I'm kind of like I'll get you a cup of tea if you want. That's my role. I love it. Cup of tea. A cup of? Yeah. Okay. El Grey. You guys go home without me for a bit. Just gonna go pop the kid along. Well Dave has a think about this one.

You're a paying country? Yes. France. No. It's not just one of the guests. It's close. Oh, it was European. European, but it's in the Western European country. Well, no, no idea. It is Italy. It is Italy, Jess. Well done.

Yes. So my topic, it's sort of like, I mean, that's semi-relevant. If it wasn't for that occupation, then this story wouldn't have occurred. Okay. Okay. I'll just tell you what the man's name was, who's at the center of the story, so if you know him, my teller, even though I am something like one-eighth Swiss Italian. Sorry, sorry.

Let's get it right. It's one-sixteenth. So one-sixteenth? Well, that's... On the podcast. It's one-sixteenth. So one-sixteenth? Well, that's on the podcast as one-sixteenth. Oh, okay. It makes me laugh. So much fun. One manna is one of my four grandparents

was Swiss Italian, but maybe she did have other heritage as well. But actually, I read the history of my Nana. I got to sent this thing. The first masherini to come to Australia, Antonio Masherini, who's my great, great grandfather. He, I just read a mini history of his journey. I'm like, would it be too self-indulgent to a bonus episode for Patreon about my Swiss Italian.

How have you came to hear it? Yeah, it was pretty, it was pretty interesting. Anyway, so I mean, the point was that my Italian pronunciation will be spot on. So the man who this story centers on is a man named Feliccia Bonuzzi. Feliccia. It looks like Felice Bonuzzi.

But I think it's Felicice, I looked up the pronunciation. It looks like it's Felice, Benuti. Okay. So I don't know if I'll be able to keep that up. But anyway, this topic was suggested by listener Victor Gimino, Dim Manuel from Madrid. Victor also suggested a great article, which I've used a fair bit in this report by Chuck Lions

from the Warfare History Network. As always, the links to that reference and others will be in the show notes. Let the story begin. Please, is there going to be more Italian feeder butcher? Uh, Verbeni, yeah. See. See, see Verbeni, isn't it? You were going to say weak, weren't you?

Full jam. This would have been apt, I suppose. Anyway, Feliccia Benuti was born on November 16, 1910, in Vienna, Austria, to an Austrian mother and an Italian father. Soon after he was born, he moved with his family to Trieste in Northeastern Italy, which is not too close to the Swiss Italian border, but it's still in the Vain House. I mean, it's a lot closer than we are now.

Yeah, sure. It's pretty close. He was a high-achieving kind of guy going on to study law at Rome University, graduating in 1934. You saying that right, Rome? I don't mind. Loma. Yeah, no, that's true.

I think, I mean, I thought, for some reason I thought this story is about that guy. I should at least try and get his name vaguely right, but yeah, we should say Roma, right? Roma. But there is also something real wrong about Rome. Australian people trying to do the full on, dropping in that full on a tail. I hate it. Or moving your hand every time you do it. You know, that's the, the sign language sign for Italian. Oh. But like that classic stereotypical gesture you might do. Like you imagine a cab driver yelling at another driver.

Yeah. What's the right hand doing? Huh? That's the sign language sign for Italian. Right. Yeah, well, I mean, I've got Italian in my blood, so I make sense of it. So you're all that to do it? Well and also, that's why it comes out. Exactly.

It's in me. It wants to get out. So I graduated from Rome, university in 1934. Oh, I hate it so much. I'm having PTSD to my ex-boyfriend ordering ordering food. Camporos, some of these things. Can we get the, oh, then that is going to be a couple of hours. Oh, the Spinach and Ricotta. Oh, fuck you. I gotta say it's pretty wonky. It's super wonky. All right, well anyway, I think we broke up a long time ago

And I think you should move on. Don't say that. I'll never move on It's never over. I'll never move on. So he graduated from Rome University, from his law studies. He also represented Italy internationally in swimming from 1933 to 1935. I hear that. It's a real eye-chive. Alright, Chevin, these are just footnote things. Just moving on to the main story.

In 1938, he married a woman named Stefania and they had two daughters, Daniela and Sylvia. Sylvia. This is a quote from his daughter Sylvia. Since childhood, my father had a restlessness, a compulsion to travel and to explore. He dreamt as a boy of becoming a sailor and traveling the world, but was rejected by the Italian navy when he eventually applied because of his bad teeth. What? Yeah, I'm never- But he was such a good swimmer.

Yeah, it was not a strike. Like, it's the boat went down. There's a good chance for Mike. There's a good sailing. Yeah, your teeth aren't any good for sailing. They used to- they used to just have to compete with sharks somehow. That must have been pretty world war II when they were pretty desperate that anyone come on in. Yeah, it was only just pretty world war.

What, you were fully rolled with no teeth? Who cares? You're in the old man now. Oh yeah, he's a gun. The Quakers on, with his parents, he went to the Dolomites or Dolomites on vacation. He started mountaineering with his father and spent his youth in the Julian, Julian helps. It was an amateur mountaineer in love with adventure. Nice quote about her dad. In 1938, the same year that he was married, Benuzzi joined the army and listened in the Italian colonial service. I'm not sure if I have his actually the army, but you know, he enrolled in an official government position. From there, we were sent to Ethiopia.

Okay, this is a word that I struggled with in the prankster episode. Abacinia? Yes, that's right. Abacinia, I think it's almost interchangeable or they were at that time. So we were sent to Ethiopia, which at the time was occupied by Italy, as I mentioned before,

as they tried to build their East African colony, which had recently added the Ethiopian empire to Italian, Eritrea and Italian Somalia land, which Italy had occupied since the 1860s and 1880s respectively. I didn't know any of this history at all, Italy trying to start an empire in Africa at all. No, I don't like it. Yeah, I've all of you at what I'm trying to carve it up and compete against each other. Yeah. And that's all pretty awful.

Yeah. Is it like buying investment properties, you know? At the time they were sort of trading it like a game of monopoly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No good, no good. I got sidetracked in the research and read a fair bit, but it's pretty complex. Minopoli? Yeah, it's fun, hard, man.

I've never seen a fun story. I always get so angry, flip that board. But what little monopoly character do you go as? I go as the car. Oh, lovely. Love the dog or the bowling. A bowling hat. You would go for the dog.

The little Scotty dog, isn't it? Yeah. And we always, we'd call the dog a pisser, and when it stopped at a hotel, I found let's say, who? Stopping in for a piss. That's a bit cute. Yeah, a little pisser.

Pisser the dog. I mean, it was whizzing when I was quite young and then as we got older, I realized I'd say pisser. Oh, that's fun. You know, dogs don't have to go inside to piss. You have a dog that just do it on the street. He comes inside to piss. Everything outside except for pissing. Oh it on the street. You're peaked? Comes inside to piss. Everything outside except for pissing.

Oh, that's why I've got that bowl of hat, I guess. It's just a fancy dog. It's a fancy dog. I used to be the race horse. I still use that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

So anyway, I won't go into all of that. But the British forces along with the Ethiopian resistance forced the Italians to surrender by the end of 1941, ending about six years of Italian rule in the Ethiopian Empire. With this, Benutzi was taken prisoner by the British, and according to lions, he was stationed in Addis Ababa, the capital city of Ethiopia, when the British army offensive moved into East Africa. By 1941 he was a prisoner of war and turned in British prison war camp 354 at the foot of Mount

Kenya and just south of the equator. Initially Benutti found life in the camp relatively pleasant but quite boring for prisoners riding. The sole activity for this host of people was to wander around the camp, walking around and talking to one another. Yeah, get your steps up, get your chats in, that sounds like a fucking dream. What do you mean? That sounds great. It actually does. Prison camps go, yeah? Yeah.

Do a bit of walking, do a bit of talking. Talk it, walking and talking. I love that. You don't have to hit any rocks. You don't have to pay bills. Not worn down by life. You don't have reports to write. What P.A.W. cams make you pay bills? I'm just saying you don't have to live the people. All right, man.

Just the water builders came in and if you could sort this one out, that'd be nice. All right. I don't have those stresses of life. It does look like I agree. It sounds pretty good to me as well. When he first...

Oh, we can do is a walk and chat. I'll talk a little bit about other things I could do as well, which also sound nice, but... Ha, ha, ha. I think we're depressed. Yeah. If you're longing for a P-O-W-CAM in the 40s. Yeah, that sounds alright.

I think I just need a break. I think I'm tired. Anyway. When he first arrived, it was Braini and the weather was overcast, meaning he was unaware that was stationed so close to Mount Kenya. He couldn't see it, after the first little period he was there. That was until one morning when the weather breath briefly cleared and he got a glimpse, he got to a glimpse the impressive mount. According to Lions though he was a mountaineer, it was the first 17,000 foot peak Benutzi had ever

seen. And he wrote that he remained spellbound for hours afterwards. Wow. He just looked at a mountain. It is boring in there isn't it? He sees a hill and he's like, whoa. That was one time. I caught the same bus every day for six years when I was in high school in the way home. And about four years in one day I was on the drive home and I looked over. Suddenly there was a mountain. I'd never noticed before the wall. And then every day from then I was like, has that always been there? Has that always been there? For two years, yeah. No, I was like four.

I saw he was two years, and he's like, is that still there? I couldn't believe it, yeah, anyway. So I can understand how it would blow, I guess that caused my concern. But also he grew up mountaineering. He loved mountaineering, it was his childhood passion. And then all of a sudden he's ended up

at the foot of a mountain bigger than he's ever seen before. Yeah. I guess it's like going to a really beautiful beach. You're like, wow, I've seen a lot of beaches, but this one's particularly good. Yeah. Do you want to know? Yeah. I like the amount of money I'm out in person going to another beach. A beach of Sark. So he described it as having fallen in love. Oh, it's offensive for his wife. According to pretend- He's a little about that man no not long. I'm out into things for him.

Nobody else who has. It would be fun if the story took a turn. It was about how he married the man. It's like that. In my head, he did. Well, actually, I didn't read that he didn't, so. Yeah, I can't prove it. According to Britannica, Mount Kenya or Kiranjaga in Swahili is a mountain and volcano,

an extinct volcano. In central Kenya, lying immediately south of the equator, is the second highest mountain in Africa after Kilimanjaro, which is located some 200 miles to the south. The Mount Kenya area was added to UNESCO's World Heritage List in 1997. The base of the mountain lies at some 5,250 feet at the 8,000 foot contour. The circumference is approximately 95 miles. Its summit area is categorized by steep pyramidal peaks. Pyramidal?

Yeah. Pyramidal. I've got to tell you, all these mountains starts to get me hot under the cold. Wow. Principal, I just sit down down there. Yeah, me too. So the three main peaks are, but Batian at 17,058 feet, Nelly in at 17,022 feet, and Pointe Lennana, 16,355 feet. They're the big three.

That's really quite tall. Yes, second biggest in Africa. So big mountains, even bigger than the ones in Australia. What? Bigger than Cosiasco, which I've walked to the top of. Bigger than one that I once saw from the bus on the way from Warren Diet High School. Kammer, mad, do your research.

What is the mountain in Warren Diet or wherever you were? No, to be honest, it's probably just a big hill, but I've never seen it. I've never seen it. Is that hill always been there? Is it still there? I don't know. So probably Mount Cosiosco is 2,228 meters above sea level. I don't know what that is in feet. All right. About triple that. So, yeah. So, it's still about half or less.

Yeah. Lines describe the mountain saying, around its base lay fertile farmland cut out of the tropical forests. Then it rose through jungle and belts of bamboo, through Timberline forest with relatively small trees, lichons, don't know what that is, and moss then heath-likeins. Likens, like lichen and moss. What's that from?

That's from Roofseal, the Roofseal jingle. It's a roof and getting lost in the Larken and the Moss. Anja, Mortar, isn't where it ought to be. Give it back that old appeal with a visit from Roof Seal. 1-800- Oh, they wrote the bit they'd want me to remember. And then just the seal park and go, Oh, proof. Yeah. What is the number?

That's funny, I've never heard Lycan before. Start the number again. 137, I'm 817. It's 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 I'm 7 Yeah, it grows on rock reefs and roots So like in moss then heath and grassland followed by glaciers and snowfields It's pretty wild like a bit of everything Wow, that's cool. Yeah, it sounds like a kid drew it All right, then there's a jungle. Yeah, it's a forest then there's a glacier then there's a tiger Okay, and the tiger. Oh, you have to answer three Oh, I can't. I'm okay. And the tiger, you have to answer three red calls.

Maybe you don't, it eats my teacher, Mr. Kevin. I hate you, Mr. Kevin. Mr. Kevin. Mr. Kevin. I don't know, he's last name. He won't tell me. It was one of those progressive schools we called each other for the first time.

But I'm a call it Mr. Kevin. To Benoote's seat, it was like, it was a mountain like you'd never seen before. He called it an ethereal mountain. He was so bored. The mountain remained in his thoughts as he continued on with the monotony of what sounds like a very pleasant prison life. He was just thinking of boobs. So he just walked around and talked to people. Yeah, well, look at that mountain. One night, heading back to his barracks after a game of chess, he had an epiphany.

Walking along, he heard someone hammering away inside one of the buildings, and according to him, a strange sense of envy crept into my mind. That prisoner had set himself a task, whatever it was. For him, the future existed. He had found a remedy for captivity. To break the monotony, I need only to start taking risks again. It changed changes mind. This is banging noise.

Someone hammering away. He goes, holy shit, this guy's got it together. It's probably like, the janitor fixing someone's butt. It's probably like, the primers of things. I wish I could have an epiphany every time my neighbors were making noise. Yeah, banging sounds. But your neighbors do make banging sounds.

It's a good a different neighbors, but yes, they're awesome neighbors. They're dang away, hammer away. Yep. They're laughing as you were. But I want to say that neighbors who just moved in next door who were building furniture at midnight, just drilling into the wall and that's played at night. What are they building in there? I was like, oh, there's a first night they lived there.

And then they had a fight at 3am, screaming at each other. I was like, I hate you. Moving is stressful. I get that, but they're still going in. We're still going in. Three weeks in. Having a build furniture at night. It's not that surprising.

Building furniture at midnight, just having moved in. Oh, really? And they ended up with an argument? Yeah. OK. So why are you siding with them? I know, I'm not. I was awake. Who's choosing to do that?

Oh no, they're in you. I'd be sleeping on the, like, just the wooden floor or whatever. Yeah. Oh, I probably have a couch or something. But I could have had a lot of the piffinis. Yeah. Had I heard this story yesterday? Our guy Antonio Fibonacci, what are his name?

He's heard this sound and now he's now inspired. Filice. Benuti. Ah, Filice Fibonacci. Little offensive as an Italian man, but I'll let you get away with it. I really like the name Fibonacci, isn't it? Sounds good, great name. It does sound great, it's just not relevant here.

Not relevant, isn't it? It's not his name. It's like me saying, mmm, Dave, is it? Nah, I like Fibonacci. I'd love to be called Fibonacci. Of all things I've been saying. Yeah, I think I'm gonna call you,

I think I'm just gonna call you me vomiting in a bucket every time I see you. I'm just having a flashback while I was awake. I'm happy to be called Blur as well, by the way. Fibonacci, actually, it goes Cobra, then Fibonacci, then Blair. That's my preference. Interesting. Where's Dave sitting at?

I haven't thought about it. Okay. Has it made the cut? So this ol' epiphany led him to make the decision that he was going to climb the mountain. Sure, yes. I had that thought. You got there before he did. Yeah, every time.

I thought he was going to fix a bunk bed. It's just a story about a guy in a POW camp who fixed a bunk bed. He was really what he wrote a 600 page novel about. Any married amount? There were a few something blocks in his way. Firstly, he didn't have any of his mountaineering gear. And maybe even more importantly, he was in a prison camp. Yes. Lions describes how he started overcoming the first issue saying, he began by writing to his family in Italy and without saying why, asking that they send him his boots and some warm wool

and clothing. He quits smoking and he uses a lot of cigarettes, the general currency of the camp, to buy other items he needed. He sold whatever of his personal belongings he could to raise additional capital, scoured camp trash heaps for usable items, and was able to locate a homemade Italian flag hidden in the camp. He ordered chocolate, dried fruit, and crackers from the food parcels he received, had ice-axe-s' fashion from Hammers stolen from a workshop workshop and created crampons rigged from odds and ends salvaged from the trash heaps. Crampons are sort of spiky, shoe things. Right. Harkin.

I was like, what? The men tampons. For maps, he had only sketches he had made of the mountain from sight. That's not how a map works. Meaning, he could only see one side of the map. Yeah. Luckily, he found a label from a food can with a picture of Matt Kenya that showed the other side of it.

You're cute. Oh my god. So there is two maps. He undid the netting of a bunk bed and twisted it into a quarter inch, 30 foot long. Told you a bunk bed. 35 foot long rope. His experience climbed, so he did a lot of work. Yeah. His preparation took about eight months.

Wow. Now, his experience climbing, but I guess all of that gave him this purpose that he was looking for. His experience climbing in the past told him that he would not be able to reach the peak alone. So he decided he needed two other men and set out to recruit them.

The first would need to be an experienced mountaineer who would accompany him to the peak alone, so he decided he needed two other men and set out to recruit them. The first would need to be an experienced mountaineer who would accompany him to the peak. The other, according to Lions, would be able to stay at the base camp while the final ascent was taking place. His main job would be help with the night watches while the party worked its way up through the tropical forests, bamboo thickets and the like on its way to their final camp. They were especially leery of the rhinoceroses that were known to roam the lower parts of the mountain. Lucky for Benutzi, he shared a bunk with the perfect candidate to fill the first row. This is

wild. He shared a bunk with a doctor who also happened to be a mountaineer. Oh my god. His name was Giovanni Balletto. Balletto was respected by the camp authorities, and they had given him a section of the camp garden to turn into a veggie patch. This is another prisoner. He's got a little veggie patch out the back. Adorable.

In that next to his veggie patch, he also built a small tool shed. So the first spot was filled. What's he growing in his veggie patch? Tomatoes. Yeah. What else? That was filled. What's it growing in his fenty patch? Tomatoes. What else? That's it. Spitpiece. Oh. Dingleberries. Yeah, so bit of everything.

So the first spot was filled and to fill the second roll, Benutzie recruited Enzo Bassotti, a businessman from Tuscany who notably had never climbed a mountain before. I reckon Enzo is going to be that one who can stay back. You know? I reckon you stay there. Hey Enzo, chill out for a bit, I reckon. He was asked one point why he brought on a man who had no mountain climbing experience and he said, quote, it was because he was universally thought to be as mad as a hada and mad people were what we needed.

Some someone crazy enough to go through it. So the group was now made up of Benutzi, Belletto and Bassotti, which I'm sure won't be confusing to me as I go on reading. Call them the the B boys. Benutzi it over. B boys, flaggoes, which I have in the air. I'm so sorry. I haven't talked for a while. You have to be sorry.

Just wanted to chime in. Thank you so much, because that's really what your job is, Dave. Yeah, Dave, you've been awfully quiet over there just doing a lot of nodding and listening. You're thinking about some sexy mountain, you're gonna fuck where to? Yeah. Straight away, damn it. So I think about, should I say, Mary?

Fucking a mountain. I say fuck. Well, you said it weird in here, so keep going. And I fuck away, how do you even do it? You're gonna fuck the mountain, Dave? You're gonna fuck this mountain. Well, you gotta find the good side, the hot side, you know what I mean?

Sure. So you're looking at food cans. You got a food can, you got a sketch, you got a pick. Which one? Where's the front? What's the back? Just pass it up. Then you put on your crampons and you go to the stand.

Yeah. So. Is anyone else worried that the third guy who's mad, once he gets out of the prison, will be like, actually, I'm just going to the gut. Yeah. It's just good to get out of the prison will be like, actually, I'm just gonna go. Yeah. It's just good to get out of prison. I think he trusted the group.

Also, it would basically be suicide. They're so far from neutral territory. And it would just be like wild terrain, traveling by yourself through Africa. So is the plan to get out of the mountain and then come back to the prison camp? Yes. What? Okay. What?

OK. And nobody's going to notice? So it's just something to do. That's the hope. They, some sources say, this is in some way across all of them, they left a note. Back in five. Just go up the mountain and be back.

Weeks, back in five weeks. So they needed a escape and they hadn't figured out how to do that yet, but someone had the thought that the camp garden would be the perfect escape route. The garden was behind a locked gate, but Bussotti had been given an access pass for it, because he had his little veggie patch there. And with it, he could come and go as he pleased. With this plan in place, I started moving their mountaineering equipment bit by bit

over to the garden, hiding it amongst bussorties tomato plants, so they put their crampons and all the different bits and pieces. Must be pretty big. Yeah, and it must be thick as well, those tomato vines at the time, to be able to hide all this gear amongst it. It's the sort of thought you put it in the shed.

Yeah, maybe that's what they did. They hit it anyway. They're putting me off the body track percent. And that's hard to do. It's hard to do because I'm a real private dick. Bussotti's access to the garden was all well and good for moving equipment in, but as the other two men did not have passes, they would need to figure out a different way of getting into the garden on the night of the escape. They realized they were going to have to get hold of the key to the garden gate. As the group prepared, Benutzi wrote about struggling with doubt saying, there are occasions when the thought of our impending adventure made me frightened.

Sometimes I thought what it would be like, lying out in the dark wet forest, dead tide exhausted by hunger, drenched to the bone in imminent danger of being attacked by wild beasts. That prospect I compared with the warm blankets in my bunk, the familiar oil lamp, and the good old book I was now preparing to read. Does feel like I'd take the reading the book in a warm bed. Yes. Sounds like he's standing in a resort. I like it to walk. What is that? It's talk! Oh my god, two of my favorite things.

Yeah, even more favorite than being cold and near rhinoceros. And being exhausted because I've been hiking all day. No, thank you. I hate camping. Mama's staying in prison. Thank you very much. He overcame these thoughts by considering the alternatives staying in the comfortable, but monotonous prison.

He felt sorry for the other prisoners saying that I felt only pity that they should be content to endure this stagnating life without having in mind a project like ours. We have got a mountain to fuck. You could, they could have other things going for them, you know? Yeah, you don't know. They could be writing something or want to live or planning a proper escape. Yeah, not, I'm going to escape.

Run up the mountain. Run up the mountain and then come back here. You idiot. Hey. The arrogance on this guy. How would you get to cross like the thousands of kilometers? It's not that far. Oh my God. Thousands of feet.

Thousands of feet. He's going to go thousands of feet up. Just go thousands of feet across. OK. And go home. I would have rid of one of them, rhinoceros. Oh yeah. That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But them do the walking for once. I'd get a noob of them, rhinoceros. Oh yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Let them do the walking for once. I'd get a noobah. I haven't thought of that. Get a noobah to the airport, fly home. First class. No, I'll put you there. Yeah, I have.

I have. You probably probably got points at some point. Surely. Yeah, just put it on points. I'll put it on points. Yeah. Just, you could sell the rhinoceros to Richard Branson or over I'll put it on points. Yeah. Just, you could sell the Rhino Cirrus to Richard Branson or overflies the plane.

Food points. Yeah. I tried a Rhino for a lift. Yeah. It seems very reasonable. I think so. I don't take up that much space. I don't have a lot of baggage other than emotional

because I've been in prison. But I don't have a lot of like stuff with me because I've been in prison. Yeah. I've said too much. Can I get on your plane, please? I've got this can of veggies with a nice picture on it. Look at this.

So that defined a key. They basically needed to steal the key to make it work to get into this garden. It feels like a video game. Yeah. After many failed attempts at getting the garden gate key, but Nutsi fell into a bit of luck when he found the key left unattended on a British office's desk. Of course. He grabbed it and made multiple impressions of it in a piece of tar. He took the tar to the prisoner who was also a mechanic who was able to use the impressions

to make a copy of the key. Far out, just take the key. He did it. The problem was I take the key, you dickhead. The problem was, it was time sensitive, so they needed to be able to do it unnoticed. Well, then it's on the soldiers, it's his fault for losing the key. Yeah, I guess if he noticed it was gone,

then they might be sprung. Or so this way, they could do it and I don't know, they're not in the wiser. Yeah, I get it. It's just some lazy. The fun they made a key. Out of lot. I thought a lot of this was more fun.

That is, that is fun. He made a key, same like fun. Anytime you ever gonna get a key cut, that's fun. You see that machine? Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. And then he gives you a key that's the same as the other key. I don't know how they do it. Imagine if they kept a copy of that key. Yeah.

Yeah. For what? It trust them. Yeah, why? Why do you give me my address? Yeah, and what I'm out most days. And when I'm in, or with me. So you'll definitely be home tonight.

Good. See you then. Good. Thanks for your business. What do you want to work to mean? I'll bring the popcorn. Oh, please just loan me. Good. See you then. Thanks, viewers. What do you want to work for me? Oh, I'll bring the popcorn. Oh, please just loan me. He's a really lonely guy. You guys, he's just loaned me.

Sorry, K-Man. Sorry, K-Man. K-Man's a cool nickname. Can I have that? No. No, blur. It doesn't work for you. Fibonacci.

How does that relevant? Fibonacci or K-Man? How does that, what's the story there? It's gonna be a story behind a nickname. Come up with all my ideas in the bath, like Fibonacci. Okay, and that's why you're called the K-Man. I just don't know. You always start one place and then you've got

a couple of steps away. Fibonacci is K's probably. Yes, or who's Fibonacci? Here's the guy who described dancing. Right? Well, no. He took a bath. I know, he took a bath.

The guy that got in the bath in the water rose and he was like, oh, you're Rika, I've got it. I've got an archie. Oh, yes. That's when he thought of his name. You're Rika. Oh, my God. Call him E. Greg. I'm Fibonacci. Rebrand, that's when he thought of his name. Yoricka. Oh my god. Oh my god. Call him E. Greg.

I'm Fibonacci. Rebrand. That's when it happened. Okay. We're sitting in the bath for three weeks trying to give a cool name. God, what can I call myself tap? No, that's not cool. Fibonacci.

Fibonacci. What am I talking about? I'm going crazy. Fibonacci. I've got that. Yoricka. Yes, that's me. I've so zen.

I've done it. Shut up, Greg. It's not Greg anymore. I hate Fippard Archie. I've got it! I've done it! You're a freak out. I've done it! Shut up, Greg! It's not Greg anymore! I've done it, I've done it! I've done it! You're still so-and-no! I think I'll tell it when.

That's definitely when. We are pretty good with history. Yes, and geography. And maths. That's definitely out one. We are pretty good with history. Yes, and geography. And maths. So they've got a new key. They've got a fake key. Yes.

Are you having that for a reason? No, well, they've got a fake key. I don't think it's going to work. Banuchi went to test the key. And his heart must have been racing as you lent it gets the gate just casually went against the gate in full view of a guard and he just sort of like subtly slaughtered it in. See like smiling whilst doing it.

Yeah, hey, hang it out. So I went it on the old gate here. No worries. Don't look at my hand. Click, click, click, click don't worry about that. He tried to turn it. unfortunately, it did not turn. Luckily, the guard didn't notice that he failed to open the gate, but...

You better believe you walked away whistling. Yeah, both hands in pockets. Very casual. So he tried to make multiple adjustments to the key and he did make multiple adjustments to the key. None of those worked, unfortunately. And it was not until Benucci realized that he needed to use a little oil on the key.

I see a bit of WD-40. Lube it up. Ah. Lube that key. Lube that key. The whole camp's yelling at the guys like, what's happening? What's going on there? That was saying it in Italian.

They were so bored. They were all yelling, loop that key, Fibonacci, yeah. So Benucci, he lubed it up, and he went back, and then he described it as the blissful satisfaction of the click.

A click of revolution. Oh, yeah, you pervert. Oh, I lubed it up, and then I had a bit of sweet satisfaction. Click. That is gross. What an absolute pervert. What a pervert. Yuck.

They're planned. He's cancelled. He's cancelled. I really like this guy. Well. You've turned on him. Both of you. No, he turned the lock and we turned on him.

Pervert. Pervert. Perf. Perf. Perf. Perf. Perf, use over here. That's a nature reference. That's a nice figure. That's a nice figure.

That's a nice figure. That's good stuff. Good stuff. Once to into a cricket camp and he taught me how to bowl. So. Merviews taught you how to bowl. Yeah, when I was I. What the fuck?

That's cool. That's cool. He said, you got to imagine you're holding a ball of string and then you open it like a bit of yarn, but you keep it going. And then you throw the yarn, but keep your arms straight. And I went out to become the greatest cricketer this country's ever seen. The greatest stress possible. Thanks, Perf.

Perfuse. He did not like it when an hero called in Perfuse. What was he doing hanging around the Los Ayros? That's an Arvind, no? I think he can hang around eight year olds and teach him out of all the Academy that we definitely pay to see. I don't know if you can. Buster. So all they're playing, starting to come together. They decided to lock in the date. January 24th, 1943, that was going to be the day for their greatest escape. They wrote in a fourth prisoner for the plan, dressing him in an outfit that looked much

like one of the camp commanders outfits. I don't know how they put it together. The bra wasn't exactly right, but it was basically... There's found a commander's outfit on So-and-S desk. Made a copy of it in time. The mechanic busted it out. That must have been what it was basically... This is found to command us out, fit on and so on and stuff. Yeah. Made a copy of it in time. Or the mechanic busted it out. That must have been what it was. So the fake British officer led the three men to the garden,

opened the gate, let them through, re-lock the gate, wandered off, probably whistling. The sounds in his pockets. No one bought an eyelid, no one noticed. The beeboys were in the garden, where they hid in the tool shed, waiting for the cover of darkness as they believed there to be another guard

on the other side of the garden that they would have to sneak by. In the garden, they were able to pick up all the climbing gear that they had stashed there, as well as food rations for the journey, which according to bushnob.com, included. Bushnob. Yeah.

Bush. Bushnob. Bush. Snob. BushNob.com, included. BushNob. Yeah. Bush. Snob. BushNob. BushNob. BushNob. I don't think you've cleared it up for me, but I love it. Whatever it is. BushNob.

What did BushNob say? BushNob was the only place that I saw it mention that they, with them, they took a bottle of pineapple brandy. I thought that worthy of mentioning, because I'd never heard of it. Pineapple brandy. I don't know if it sounds nice or really gross. Yeah. Because I like pineapple. But when you're desperate. Yeah, I guess in the cold nights up a mountain. Yeah, you take it. When you're wearing home made like barbed wire on your feet basically. Is that where the crayons are barbed wire wrapped on their feet? I, it's scrap

metal of some sort. Yeah. When the night, when night fell, they were able to easily make it out of the camp, pass the perimeter without seeing any guards. It was just seemingly unguarded on the perimeter. I love this prison. It really does sound... I'm so don't wonder if it was a prison at all. Yeah. They then crossed over the rail lines.

It is eight months after he came up with the plant. They then crossed over the rail line before taking a break in the shelter of some bushes. Because I was very aware that British soldiers were all around and they could be found at any moment. And I don't know, they were still in a war zone, basically. In these bushes, according to Benutzi, the glacier-clad Mount Kenya was seen clear cut

against the starry background. And he got a big job. Ha ha ha ha what are you doing go back into the tent? Don't look at me. We don't have a tent go back in the bush. I Just hit a moment alone, please give me a moment with my mountain. I'm thinking about the plan obviously I'm forming a plan. Oh wait They weren't in the clear yet though They weren't in the clear yet though. Oh wait, nearly there. According to Lions, they then worked their way.

Lions, they were Lions there. Yeah, according to the Lions, nearby. According to the Rada Lions, they then worked their way to the main road, where a passing military car almost spotted them. But they crossed quickly into the dark clearing on the other side and under some more foreign trees. At times they walk backward to leave footprints that would further confuse any pursuers. It's pretty smart.

They're walking backwards. Yeah. Right. I'm going to use that if I'm ever on the run. This is where the adventure really began. They continued to travel under the cover of darkness and according to WaterSones.com, it took them three days to climb sufficiently high up Mount Kenya to consider themselves safe from capture. So I really just just move in very stealthily in the dark. I'm watching you back the whole time. Yeah, it feels so

stressful. You're very draining. You sleep well, Eric. Well, no, you wouldn't because you'd be scared. Oh, man, there's no... The freezing cold out in the open. There's no rest. Well, no, you wouldn't because you'd be scared. Oh, man, there's no... The freezing cold out in the open. There's no rest. Water zones goes on to say, from then on, their biggest dangers were not British soldiers, but nature itself, wildlife, high altitude,

weather, and lack of food. On their way to their destination, they move through all sort of terrain, moving through a tropical forest, hacking through bamboo, and nettle-ridden valleys, and even getting through an encounter with a bull elephant on skates. No.

No, thank you. The whole time he's thinking, those suckers back there and their warm beds don't know what they're missing. Yeah. Readin' their books. Ugh. Getin' fed, a couple of times a day.

Flying chest in the evenings of the one who. Suckers here. Doin' really have them free, Ryan. Don't even know they of times a day. Fine, chest in the evenings of the Wannu. Suck this here. Don't really have them free rein, honestly. Don't even know the garden a bit. Fresh tomatoes, lovely. They had to trek over glaciers and snow with their homemade gear before setting up base camp at 14,000 feet.

They seem to be different retellings of the story from here, but Lions version has Benutzie and Beletto attempting to reach the highest peak of Bhutan but they weren't able to make it as they were thwarted by snowstorm. Other places I read it one of them got too sick to go on altitude sickness and other things but anyway they weren't able to make it to the highest peak. They retreated to base camp and licked their wounds for a day before turning their attention to Lanana, the third highest peak on Mount Kenya at 16,355 feet.

Still obviously a very high mountain, a double Coseo-Sco. And if you're not wearing proper gear? Yes. That's crazy. Yeah. It was pretty well unknown to rain, to them. They have, they're looking at a wrapper. Yes, they were, and they were conventional routes to travel, which they didn't

know and they did not use. So they're making their own path. That is so cool. Yeah. And insane. It's a me. It's like one of the bad ass wild stories I've ever heard. All because he can. He wants to do something. He just want to have a challenge. The two men set off the following day with their rations running critically low, they knew they weren't gonna get another attempt. According to Bush-Nob, they climbed through the dark and their basic tools were not really able

to manage the snow and mud they encountered, but they pressed on and finally managed to get to the top of Lennanna after negotiating really difficult conditions. They got there. They got there. And they negotiated. It's all about communication. They got there. They got there. And they negotiated. It's all about communication. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I won't go to the high spake, but what do you give me if I just make to the third high spake? Yeah. I'm writing down a number on this piece of paper. I don't want an answer today. I'm sliding it over to you.

You ever think about it? That's me as a businessman. Yeah. A businessman. I'm wearing. I'm wearing it over to you. You ever think about it? That's me as a business man. It's always man. I'm wearing... No, I'm a business man too. Why not? That's what you were saying. I'm wearing a pinstripe suit. And I've got a comb over.

Really? Yes you do. Why are you telling us? We can see you. Well... You really combed it over well. I wouldn't even notice until you mentioned it. Yeah. Now I can see.

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He's pretty good, nearly died to get here. Oh, grand site. Once there, they firmly planted their Italian flag and left a bottle sealed with their names written in it. With suppliers running ever lower, they returned to base camp before resting. I mean, I'm skipping over this, but it was a wild journey back down again, you know? Like, the whole way up could have died back down same thing. And then, so they go back to base camp, then the following day, they set back for prison camp are you what are they doing at night? Are they sleeping inside anything? There were some huts, but they were tried

There were some concrete huts, but they did not use them Okay, because his daughter herad is daughter said in an and a blog which I'll link to as well that They didn't want to because there was a possibility that they'd be locked inside because they had lockable doors on them and if they slept in their overnight maybe they get locked in and then they'd have to break out which would be a crime and they didn't want to commit any crimes. Okay, that seems like a silly choice. Doesn't that feel a bit bonkers?

I'm going to sleep out in the snow rather than going to the side. That shelter that's built probably for people like me. In case I have to break it. Wild. I think that every time I go to an Airbnb, I think I don't want to commit a decribs, but I don't understand how doors work. I've got to break down the store every time.

I'll see other people. I'll see other people. I'll see other people just calm and go, really nearly, nobody will explain to me. Criminals. Criminals won and all. They should be locked up. Then they'd probably just get out of game.

They were there, they'd acknowledge these dolls. I don't get it. And I've asked people, and they laugh. And I said, what are you laughing at? They help me. If I say turn the knob, I'm like, what are you talking about? What's a bush knob?

I don't understand. What do you mean turn? Sometimes it's when you push down a bit. What if it's a sliding door? It's very confusing. Turn the sliding door. What if it's a revolving door? It's very confusing.

I'm too nervous to go on them. What if I miss the exit? I've got to go round again, I look silly. I'm just sleeping the snow. What is the point of revolving doors? Yeah, just leave a hole in the wall. You know what I'm saying? Because there's always a regular door next to them.

Why do they have- Just in case. Is it just for looks? I think it's got to be for looks. They're so damn annoying. It's like a chandelier. I'm going to tell you, as a kid, the first time I ever saw one, it blew my mind. Oh yeah. I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just- I just shuffle. They scare me a little bit. Yeah, they can't feel like an 80s thing to me somehow. Yeah, why are they

still around? Why are things from the 80s still there? Wall Street's gone man. Yeah, yeah, there was an excess of ball bearings. I didn't know where to put them all. I'm like the door spin. All right. Everything from the 80s has to go. Is it revolving restaurant? Yeah. Anything that was around I'm taking out what you put down there. Yeah. No, let's keep some things from now.

No, get rid of it. All right. Put them in the bin. Only 90s onwards. Yeah, that's right. 1990. You know what counting 1780s, are you? No, anything for any 80s.

Anyway, 18 days on from their cunning escape, they made it back to the rail line, we're outside the perimeter of the prison camp. 18 days. That makes sense. 18 days. And they're made just way to base camp for them, and then they've walked back together.

Well, the 18 days was from breaking up to getting... Yeah, but they've picked him up on the way through. Yeah, they picked him up on the way through. He just had a holiday. He just had a little break from prison. He did what he does in prison, but like've picked him up on the way through. Yeah, they picked him up on the way through. He just had a holiday. He just had a little break from his visit. He did what he does in prison, but like in worse conditions. But he had to climb a fair chunk of the mountain, get past an elephant, there's rhinos around.

Yeah. His job was almost worse because he didn't get to do the cool bit at the end. Did you get there while I got close? Yeah, I saw it. Yeah, it was very good. Yeah, we all saw it back here in prison. Yeah, look, for that comfy bed. Look, right there.

I'm just looking at it right now. So they got back to camp and here according to lines, tired, very hungry and afraid, they would be shot at if they were spotted. So they're still on the outside of the camp but they're basically getting close. They're trying to break into prison. Yeah, that's right. They're afraid they're going to get shot at it. They try and break back into prison.

So they fasten all their loose gear to prevent noise and began crawling back toward the camp garden. So they crawled the last chunk of this journey. Just, I think it was feeling too easy. This fruit challenge? Yeah. He continues lines in the darkness. They were not seen by any century. Okay, guards. Very bad at the jobs. And slip back inside as easily as they had slipped out. They snuck back to the tool shed in the garden where they had a restless night as they huddled together near starving. Their mates inside were meant to leave food for them. Right. And they did that. And apparently every day they'd do it. And then those friends that, you know, just taken a little, little skimming a little bit of food off the top and putting it in their each night. And then they go back the next day to put a little more in.

And what they put their last night had gone. And then it happened again. And again, so they'd put a little bit in there, but the next day would be gone. So not sure why. Either a rat in like literally a rat or one of them is stealing the extra food for themselves. Yeah, or a guard was like, oh nuts. They are again. I got it fairies left me a tree. Thank you very much. Oh nuts. What kind of nuts is it, Dave? Oh, almonds, my hand. Oh. Either that or they've come back.

No one expected them to survive. And they've said, you said you'd leave food in the shed. They're like, oh, no, we did every day, but just disappear. They never left any food. The next day when they heard other prisoners in the garden, so it suns up there in prisoners out in the garden, so it sums up their own prisoners out in the garden.

They snuck out and sort of mingled amongst them before walking back into the camp amongst other prisoners, where they scoffed down their lunch with the rest of the prisoners, probably with a glass of red wine. Oh, just yesterday. Victory life. Silver plates. They then returned to their own bunks to sleep the night before reporting themselves in the morning to the British compound officer.

So they haven't been replaced in the bunk, because my lawyer would be, you've been in a way for three weeks, they've got a new inmate in. Well, maybe they did, but they still slept in those beds. Piss off Jeremy, I slept till three weeks ago, so... Top to tail? Yeah. They're punishment, so I turn themselves in. They're punishment was to serve 28 days in confined cells, but were released after only seven days.

Benutzi later wrote that the camp commandant was very kind to us and had, as he put it, appreciated our sporting effort. It feels like a very British sort of thing. Well played, Chaps. And they came back. That's so weird. Well, yeah, why chaps. And they came back. That's so weird. Well, yeah, why would you punish them? It's like, well, you're back in prison.

You saved us some food for a bit. You actually, our overheads are a little down on where they would have been otherwise. That makes sense now. I was thinking, why are we about three people who weren't worth a food down? Do you reckon they noticed? They noticed, yeah, because there's roll calls and stuff.

So they're not, they got back, they skipped the roll call and went to bed because they weren't missing any way. No one was like, they weren't searching for them anymore inside. But yeah, when they found them, they searched them thoroughly apparently, and then put them in these little cells for 28 days,

reduced. To seven. Imagine their cell mates, though, who were really enjoying having a place to themselves. Yeah. And now they're like, oh, you bet. Be like, get being on the plane with their seat next to you. Yeah. And that's all of a sudden, there's just before takeoff, one last person comes on.

Right next to you. Where's he going to sit? Oh, no. He's coming this way. We're stinky peaked, going to sit? Oh no, he's coming this way. Where's Stinky Pete gonna sit? Oh no. They're always stinking. This does make me think of,

have you ever watched Hogan's heroes? Yes. Yes. And every time you're watching, you're like, comedy's sitting a P.O.W. camp. That's a bit out there, all right? And then it never, you know, it feels so ridiculous, but this kind of feels a bit...

Yeah, it does feel, it feels fantastical. Yes. They would do something like that. Sneak out, only to sneak back in. Home, oh! Oh! That was from that room. Yeah.

I know all about Hogan's Heroes from the Simpsons. It's Homer's sub-conscious. Yes, but he just... But he, he just, he appears as... Isaac Newton, no. I'm Isaac Newton, oh my, who? Yeah, he, he just he appears as it, I was like Newton, I'm Isaac Newton. Oh my Yeah, he doesn't know this so many that comes back as Colonel Kling from That's good stuff

A few days later some British climbers discovered their flag and bottle and Lannana British climbers who were up there with actual climbing gear and stuff and British climbers who were up there with actual climbing gear and stuff. And their adventure then became public knowledge. Such an amazing feat, but made even more so when you consider the trio lacked even the most basic information about the mountain before they set off. According to his daughter Sylvia, I've written Sylvia. I've written Sylvia. And that's what, that's what mocked me up there.

According to his daughter Sylvia, they that's what, that's what muck me up there. According to his daughter Sylvia, they were ignorant about many crucial issues regarding their adventure. They did not know about feminism back then. I'm so ignorant. Include, oh look, I'll probably be the one to talk about feminism on this show day. I brought it up so you could teach us.

Yeah, if you could sit back, just lean in. Let's chat. I'm going to teach you about feminism. Hey woman, who want lean in? Let's draw the first thing. You shouldn't use that kind of language. High woman. Anyway, Sylvia.

Sylvia. Sylvia. So she said, they're ignorant about many crucial issues regarding their adventure, including about the tropical African wilderness, about the distances they had to walk and the climate they had to face, a couple of key things there that you would normally know about or starting a trick. About the mountain, they had no idea about access, possible shelters, the history of the mountain and its main roots of the scent, no idea that the mountain being on the equator, this one is wild to me.

That had no idea, neither did I. The being on the equator, the mountain behaved both as winter and or summer, depending on which side you tackled it. One side of it is a winter mountain. The other side is a summer mountain apparently. Is that wild? That's insane. It cannot be true, Dave.

It tends like a theme park. It's wet water world over here, but over? That's insane. It cannot be true, Dave. It tends like a theme park. It's wet and water-world over here, but over here it's traditional. It's dry. But if you get a super park, pass, you can go to bus. Super, super bus. Oh, that blew my mind. That is so outrageous.

And to be honest, I haven't double-checked that anywhere, but it does. I trust Sylvia. I trust Sylvia. I trust Sylvia. Sylvia. Sylvia, thank you. Forever. Sylvia, forever.

In 1947, Benutzi had a book published telling his story. The book was translated into English in 1952, titled No Picknic on Mount Kenya. It has also been translated into various editions, including French, Spanish, German, Swedish, and Korean. I reckon someone suggested I'd do that for Bookcheat, that Booker, reckon? Yeah, I bet, because it's seen as a classic, certainly of a mountaineering classic. Right.

And in 1994, it was turned into a film called The Ascent. The film, according to a review on IMDB, is a highly fictionalised real-life adventure of an Italian soldier who escapes a British prisoner of war camp to climb the challenging 17,000 foot Mount Kenya and plant the Italian flag on the summit. That bit sounds non-fiction. It sounds a bit more fictional when the breakdown goes on to say, the obsessive British camp commander pursues him.

And the two men are locked in a battle of wheels fueled by honor and their love for the same woman. Why? Why? She can't enter. The two men are locked in a battle of wheels, fueled by honor and their love for the same woman. Why? Okay. She can't enter it. What's she, why? Okay.

What does him climbing a mountain have to do with loving a woman? Oh, Mary, whichever one of you gets to the top of that mountain. All right. She's standing up there. She just strolled up. Whoever gets here first. Unless the woman is the mountain. Okay, so now Dave's interested.

Oh, here we go. Any sex scenes in this world. Oh, scannically clad mountain, eh? Oh, yeah. Oh, summer, summer side for me. Oh, baby, I can see your peak. There's a bit cold up there. I can see your ice caps.

No. I've got to say the name, no picnic on Mount Kenya, is much better than the Ascent. Yeah. Shit name. Yeah. And that's why when I try to find it, there were like five different films with the same name as well.

Yeah. Benutzi remained, so remember his life before an international swimmer? Oh yeah, we got it. Yeah, shit Went over unfortunately time for him a got caught up in a British Re invasion. I mean in maybe yeah, no whatever. I did the history there. I don't think Italy was Really in a good in

Didn't have the high ground they did not have the high ground, till he climbed the mountain. Yeah, he's a lowly dead at it. But, and the woman was very happy. But she went on to be his wife, because he won. Sylvivias mother. Oh, is this true? Sylvivias said it, yeah.

Mother said Sylvivias happy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, His post-war life also sounds fascinating. As he became an Italian diplomat in 1948, diplomat, where he served around the world, including posts in Paris, Brisbane, Australia, Karachi, Canberra, Australia, West Berlin, and his head of the Italian delegation at the United Nations. What? He lived in Australia! In Brisbane.

That's where we are. Oh, crazy. Lines also writes that in 1973 he was appointed ambassador to Uruguay and lived in Montevideo before retiring to Rome, serving in retirement as head of the Italian delegation for the Antarctic. What? What? It's guys, it's like, I don't know why it's not, uh, it's like a big ename, it's Favonucci or something.

Favonucci. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Favonucci sounds like a real stud. Yeah, Favonucci is on all the covers of all those bones and neal. Neal's a bone. Oh, Favonucci. Uh, of course, allilsen, Milsen, Milsen, Milsen, final quote from Sylvia, Sylvia, Benucci. She's become a cult hero. They're just in a nice crowd.

I like the cut of her Jube Sylvia. Sylvia. Sylvia. She wrote, wrote, the idea of climbing Mount Kenya for the simple pleasure of doing so was just my father's idea of fun, even in such extreme of circumstances. What he sought was to live the adventure and ever after

he lived each moment of his life to the maximum, because he realized that living was an adventure in itself. Aw, that's so nice. He sounds like a really cool dude. Yeah, that's an amazing story. Just, yeah, imagine his temperament must have been, I imagine, super chilled, right? Just to be able to do all these things so well,

imagine he would have been a pretty laid back guy. Although he's still going, there's hammering over here. I'm jealous of that, so maybe he was a guy. He's strong, I'm not sure. Yeah, he knows. Maybe a bit of both. And lucky that the guards were pretty inept. Yeah.

He was probably a bit of a nightmare to be married to, you know, always doing something. It's like, can you just sit down and watch a movie with me, please? You promise? Far too't move, you know? Yeah, I don't think people have seen a lot of him. Yeah. He hears renovations and he's gone.

He's gone. And people are always renovating. Always renovating. I wonder if the security was so low at the camp because they knew that it was basically impossible to get away. That's where it's like, well, good luck out there. Good luck out there, yeah. I wonder.

What a life. What a life. Well. And that is the end of my report, though. Well done. Great report, though. Thank you. Yeah, I think so.

Which brings us to the point of the show, I think is everyone's favorite part of the show, actually. It's called the fact quote. It's called the fact quote or question segment of the show. It's got a little jingle gestures. Fat quote or question. Bing. Nice.

And the way you can get involved in this is supporting us at Patreon.com.sache2goonpod, where you can support us on a bunch of different levels for all sorts of different rewards, including bonus episodes, which we do a couple of a month, and many other things, including including this one if you support us on the Sydney Shindburg Memorial Rest in Peace level who was honored at this week's Academy Awards. Yes, that is right in memoriam. There he was up there. I was watching and I thought there he is

Sid Shindburg. But Keesht Lorraine would have been sitting in the audience. Tune in, all right. Proud as punch. Pr proud as punch proud as punch So what you get to do if you're on the Sydney-Shineberg level you get to give us a factor quote or a question You also get to give yourself a title and this week Matthew Bohr Has given himself the title of head accountant for the Council of Matt's regret face of the title of head accountant for the Council of Matt's regret face. Oh, didn't realize I needed a council for the regret face.

Yeah, all right, but I now that I know that I need one, I feel a lot, I feel like. What was the full time again? Head accountant. Head accountant. Uh oh, for the Council of Matt's regret face. I was hoping Jess wouldn't notice the accountant part of that role.

Shouldn't he be the face account? Oh boy. So he's given us a... Matt, you has given us a fact this week. And I don't read these out until I read them out. Obviously, here we go. Matthew writes, fact. This is going back to the Jimmy Barnes episode.

Oh, you're talking my language. This is going back to the Jimmy Barnes episode with or you're talking my language. This is going back to the Jimmy Barnes episode, with the question being asked about eating a cat. What? Well, here is a fact for you. Do you recall us talking about eating a cat? Yeah, so you're talking about maybe they were so poor they had to eat a cat as well.

Oh, yeah. There was oats or something with cat shit on it. Oh, that's right. No potatoes. Potatoes. They had to wash off the cat, but I thought we thought that they were going to eat the cat. And then I said, isn't cat's can't maybe poison us?

Okay, well, maybe this fact. That's the context there. Well done. Matthew writes, cats are more nutritious than dogs. With dogs protein per 100 grams at an average of 19 grams, while cats meat is around 21 grams per 100 grams. So from strictly a protein perspective, cats are better.

Even stranger though, is the fact that only a small handful of countries, six outright ban consumption of these animals with North America and Australia being on a case by case basis. So guard your pets. Wait. What?

Case by cat, who are you asking? Yeah. The local sheriff. Hello, I'd like to eat this cat. It's a case cat. Who are you asking? Yeah. The local sheriff. Hello, I'd like to eat this cat. It's a cat, a case by case on Australia. That's interesting. No, it is very interesting, aren't it? I always find it funny when, you know, like, if you, it's weird to draw a line between which animals,

it's normal to eat in which aren't as well. Yeah. But I understand why, because people get very attached to the common pets. In Australia, at least a cat's and dog. So it feels weird to some people, but cows are pretty cool looking things. Cows can be very cute. When they hold their pigs.

And pigs. Pigs are cute. A little piggy. Oh, oh, oh, man. Put them in gum boots. You're my friend forever. But I never ate pig anyway. I'd never, I, so I guess that says it suggests

that cats aren't the poisonous to eat, but I look forward to a future fat-quotal question, which debunks that somehow. Oh, I'm actually, I love it the bunk of a debunk. Oh, debunk the debunk. Flamed unctubunk. Thanks so much, Matthew. That was a great fact.

That was very fascinating. Cats are more nutritious, protein-wise than dogs. 2% That does feel hot, I mean I have no idea what, how much you're meat would be, that's like, yeah. No idea that if that is hot, but it sounds high. 20% protein, that does sound high. 20% protein.

Protein. Protein, give me two. I was thinking that too, really. Protein. Protein, give me two, meatball. I'd't think. Oh, team! Give me two, me, Paul! I'd also love to thank Surage Peris. Surage. Who's given himself the title of Chief Sardine,

and he's also given us a fact. I'm pretty sure I just sent Surage T-shirt a little while ago. Oh, very cool. You got damn legend, Surage. You know what you did. And I'm wrong, in which case, why, why don't you buy a T-shirt? That's what we guilt everyone. Saraj writes, hi.

Excellent question Mark. Good strong start. Sending in a fact about where I live. Macao is the most densely populated region in the world with about 20,000 asterix people per square kilometer. I reckon I didn't send Saraj Tisha then for him to come. Since it's a SAR, special administrative region of China, it's not the most densely populated country in the world,

that title goes to another casino town, Monaco. It has around 19,000 double asterisks per square kilometer. It'll probably lose this title soon because unlike most countries, Macau's land area is growing due to reclamation. Reclamation, reclamation. Here's a Google Earth time lapse. Well, that one's just for us.

Sons of Surage, chief sardine and brand ambassador for Jeffer Juice, brackets O'Jane, Chucky Milk, bracket. So here's asterix, chief sardine and brand ambassador for Jeffer Juice, brackets OJ and Chuckie Milk, bracket. So his asterisk, the first one was, oh, I see what he did. He said, numbers rounded for Jess's comfort. So 20,000 is actually 20,000, 2286. Cheers. And 9,000 is actually 8,960. I genuinely didn't hear that, so that is very helpful.

Oh, well done. Two out, chief sardine. Oh, I love it. Thanks, sir. I genuinely didn't hear that so that is very well done. Well done. Wow, Chief Sudden. Oh, I love it. Thanks, sir Raj, you've got Dam legend. I've told you that before and I'll tell you again. Call that you're listening in Macau, that was cool. That's great.

Can we do a live show there, one of the casinos? Do we have another, sir Raj? That's crazy. So he gets around, don't worry about that. We also love to thank a few other Patreons. Yes. And normally, Jess comes up with a bit of a game, somehow based on the episode. Topic?

Yeah. I was... Mmm. Cool. Mmm. Um. What about... We name their book, their book.

Their autobiography. Yeah, fantastic. So instead of no picnic at Mount Kenya, where are they not having a picnic? Exactly. Or something. Something like that. Well, may I kick it all off?

Or do you have a better idea Dave? I'm liking that. Thanks Dave. They've been a book man as well, and I'm on your book show last week and next week. And this week coming as well. Can't wait to record that second half. Can't wait to find out what happens in this tale of two cities.

Charles Dickens classic. Yes. Good fun. Good fun. It was recorded the night before the Super Bowl, the first episode. Yeah, that's right. And it was funny. I was remembering back to that the other day.

I remember saying it towards the end. I was like, where's that coming too well to me today. That's a bad sign. Four shuttles. So I'd love to thank from Maryland's or Maryland's, probably as we say it here, in Western Australia, Kelly Clark. Kelly! We've met Kelly. Kelly Clark. What's her autobiography? Her autobiography would be, no, Shazamon in my Shazawa. What are you? Don't you Shazamon the Shawa. Is that a self-help book?

Yeah. And other life hacks. Oh, I love it. She's amming us in this superhero or the app that let's tells you what the song is like. Man, if you have to ask, maybe you need to read the book. Okay, I guess I do. And Roshia's am in it and then Shazawa. And other life hacks. By Kelly Clark. I'd be, but mostly out of confusion. I want to

have a life hack. Are they always baffling is that? I have, there's these five minute craft videos that keep coming up on my Facebook feed, maybe because I've watched one, and now they always come up, and I just watch them, because they're really dumb. Live pack, I do some of them are so stupid.

Some are handy, some I'm like, why would I do that? Anyway, no, I can't think of an example now, but they're very dumb. Well, they're not only reusing plastic bottles of water. Yes, or sometimes they're like, oh, this dress is too long, this maxi dress is too long. So they just pull it up and wear it as a strapless dress.

And I'm like, well, that's not really a lie, I can you look dumb. Yeah, my key there would be, don't buy a maxi dress. Yeah. If you don't want it to be maxi. Yeah, exactly. there would be don't buy a maxi dress. Yeah. If you don't want it to be maxi. Yeah, exactly. Spidress. You can take-

End of YouTube video. You can also take up a skirt, you know? You can just hem it. Oh yeah, hemiskeirt. Which is one of the chapters in Kelly Clark's book. Yeah. Hemiskeirt. Hemiskeirt.

Nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh. Hemiskeirt. Nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh. Stop. Hemis just good. That's fun. Alright. I'd also love to say. The music sounded nothing like Hamilton. Yeah. I'd do it. That's for copyright reason.

I realize that during, I'm like, I can't find it. It sounded more like, Nanat, Nanat, Nanat, B, but it's a bad, bad thing. Nanat, Nanat, Nanat, Nanat, Nanat. Stop. Nanat, Nanat, Nanat, Nanat, Nanat. Stop. Nanat, Nanat, Nanat, Nanat. That's fun.

Alright. I'd also love to say. The music sounded nothing like Hamilton. Nanat, Nanat, Nanat, Nanat, Nanat. That's for copyright reason. I realized that during, I'm like, I can't find it. It sounded more like, Nanat, Nanat, Nanat, B, but it's a bad, bad, bad thing. Nanat, Nanat, Nan da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da And it, Mick Taggart. And her book. No sleeping on the run. Oh, with diarrhea, can't get to sleep.

Yeah, on the runs. On the toilet, on the runs. Yeah. He sure it's not just like she's getting away. No, she's got the sheets. The cops are following her. She's got the squirts. Yeah, and they're trailing it because of the squirts.

Yeah, like it's about there. Well, the trick is you squirt backwards Literally she squirted in circles Sorry, I met not you it's a story about someone fictional fictional story why did you said it was a photo No, but not in this case She's a ghost writer for someone else No, but not in this case. She's a ghost rider for someone else who's a little bit of a girl.

And it does not have the shits. Or... Any more. She's... We've all had the shits at some point. No, not me. Never shitted. What do you mean? Never shitted.

We've got it right now. And look at it, he's fine. It's probably so pale. You are pale. Yeah, I'm not feeling too good. Anyway. You should speak to someone about that. What you should do then, Dave.

I want a hot streak. It's thanks some people. That'll make you feel better. I think so, Nick. I'd like to now thank Eva or Eva. Probably Eva, Clark Leppard. Oh, my goodness. Clark Leppard.

I don't have any real crack. My goodness. From Toronto. From Toronto in Ontario, Canada. I love that some Double barrels don't work but Clark Leopard or Clark Leopard. That's that's very good. That's beautiful. It's a The Clark Leopard and her book oh She's done her ACL. No, that's not anything. ACL. It's a knee. Anyway

ligament that's her if yourR's been copyrighted, you call it ETCL. Oh yeah, it's my turn. Okay. No, it's all got a solid note. I think so. No. No worries, have a bloody good one. Wow, I can't, what an, eh.

We're the first non-Australian. Yeah. What's that like? Subtitled, my 12 months down under. Yeah. That's what, and that is also the Australian title in Canada. I've said, no worries. Have a jolly Canadian time.

A. Maple Leaf. I mean, they do that for every country. Big seller, this big seller. So thank you so much to either there. I'd also like to thank few names. It's got it on the cover. It's a moose writing a beer, which sounds difficult.

But it's beautiful. I don't know if it is. Well, it's difficult. It's difficult. That photo cost half a million dollars. I have not been drinking today. Here are some names coming at you, putting these together. David Jose Garcia Arranda.

Oh, that's cool. DJ, G-A. From a round rock Texas. Oh. Round rock, like saying that too. David Jose Garcia Arranda. Love it. Love your name.

The names today. No, rockin' around this noggin. Whoa, a Rike didn't rhyme in the end because it felt like you were gonna, and then you didn't. There's a closed dish that I liked. I rockin' around this noggin. What's that, what kind of style of book?

It's a book about moons. Oh, the little rocks. A round. A round the noggin, which is a moon moon. Well, that it's an allegory Right a bit of a parent. So when the rocks be the moons and the noggin be the planet Matt you really just got to read it Okay, don't judge a book by its title. Yeah, please. Please. Okay. It's eye catching, isn't it? I've got your attention. Don't I? Yeah, I'm reading the blue Flip it over.

I'm listening to the audio book for sure. Yeah, welcome, baby. David, who say Garcia, Randa? Many thanks. Many thanks to you. It's my turn to thank some people. I would love to thank from North Yorkshire. I would love to thank Liam Duncan.

I'd love to have a beer with Duncan. I'm a mate, we're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done.

We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done.

We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. We're all done. I'm talking girls, I'm girls, me mate. Yeah. What on lay him? Thanks for bringing me to the contest. So that's your book title. But it's with no at the start.

No, I'd love to have a beer with Duncan. I'm going to have a beer. I reckon that one's called No pub with beer. Oh, now look classic. Now look classic. Meaning nothing to like talking about. There's nothing so like something or dream as to sit in the bar of a pub with no big. I mean, this makes no sense.

Just look up Slim Dusty. And you're welcome. Yes. And I can't. Release more than 100 albums, I think. There was like a slim, dusty museum thing on my road trip over summer and I begged to go, but it was quite a detour. And we did have to get somewhere. But I was like, C'mon!

I don't know much about him. He'd be a good episode. That's why I wanted to go. I say he'd be a good episode, but I know nothing about him. Maybe he wouldn't be a good episode. Maybe he'd be quite dull. Who knows. Who knows. All right, and bringing it home, but I know nothing about it. Maybe it wouldn't be a good episode. Maybe it'd be quite dull. Who knows? Who knows? Alright, and bringing it home, I would love to thank finally. Thank you to Liam again.

From Blackheath in London, David Hayden. Two first names? Two cracking first names, right? Okay. David Hayden. David Hayden. What's coming to mind for David Hayden? Okay. What should we do around the world? Yeah. I'll start with no. Okay. No.

Dentist. At. House time. No dentists at house time. One of those ones, we don't get it until the final page. Yeah. No dentists at house time. Like turtles all the way down.

That's what happened in that book. Did you just rule in that book. Did you just ruin that book? No, I still don't fully remember what he gets in the last page. You go it is not a last page Turtles all the way down. That's the right of you dislike But I've read a lot of blood. I'm not doing this. Yeah, it's John Green. I don't I don't necessarily dislike it I just think they're very for me like you know John Green's one of our Most loyal listeners. And he's probably... Well, he's got my money for like nine of his books.

He's fine. That's so funny to buy nine books of a person you don't like their writing of. I know, they're very... they're page turners. They're great holiday reads. You just read it. Wasn't I reading it on the UK tour? That's why I... didn't I keep... Yeah, or one I keep yeah Oh one of my maybe oh one of my interstate shows I can you're on the plane going

Yeah, I kept reading though. That's because I didn't have a switch yet Now I have a switch are you wearing different for me? Do you still play the farming game? I'm a bit over it Really? Why is I get back to it every now and then don't you worry? We still married to that guy of course We're very happy we have a child. Oh That's nice. I thank you David that guy. Of course. We're very happy we have a child. Look at you. Aw, that's nice. I thank you, David Hayden. What a legend.

What a legend. And all we need to do now is induct a few fantastic guests into the exclusive tripditch clubs. You may not remember this, but you attempted to do this last week and we said, no, just wait. Just wait. OK. Well, just in case we've missed any because you said, I was pretty keen and we were like, nah, that's all right mate.

Don't worry about it. We'll do the fact-crot of question. No, we didn't. Yeah, I do, I think I remember that. We do one each, I think. Great, so. I also think you didn't think any people are, Jess and I, do we just do three people's

names? Yeah, I think we did, yeah. Well, that's no fun. All right. So this week inducting into the Triptage Club, which is for Patreon supporters who've been supporting us for three years straight on the five buck or above level. And firstly, I'd love to bring into the club from Detroit, Rock City. It's Reed Tatoris. Reed Tatoris. Reed Tatoris.

What a legend. I'd also love to bring in from New York City, New York State, Jacob Sullivan. Jacob, welcome. Woo! I should let Red and Jacob know that Dave is gonna put you on some sort of gold font on the website, I think. Yeah, at some point he's promised to do that and will

and Dave never goes against his promises. Absolutely, I've got a lot of spare time that's coming up, so don't you worry about that. Fantastic. All right, I think that's all the inductees we... Wow, I've got in today. Well done. Read and Jake Cobb. We love you guys! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Man, I'm pumped! I'm so pumped. We are about to record a bonus episode for the Patreon.

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God damn right, you got it right about that. We put out two every month, the equivalent of last month, but we're doing three this month. So get into it. We've done 225 on the main feed, but if you want 60 bonus episodes, support us on Patreon.

Do us a favor. We love you for it. Thank you so much, it's a support me so much. Can you just give us one woo? Because Dave and I weren't really hard. And you just always set their chuckling, which was very sweet, but also give us a woo.

Woo! Come on man. Yeah. Come on man. Woo! Yeah. Come on man. Join in, all right. Here he comes, he's holding it. You want me to attack it?

Yeah, go for it. Yeah, everything you got. Turn down your volume at home. Yeah, go for it. You want a big woo. Big woo. Big woo. Hopefully you're not drifting off to sleep.

This would be so annoying. All right, here we go. Here we go. All right. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. That felt good. That felt go. All right. Woo! Woo! Whoa! That felt good.

That felt good. That was really hope. Thank you for bringing me in. Wow, I'm this studio. That was huge. That was great. That felt nice. You look 10 years younger.

That actually, I have faint feeling stressed and that probably did get a little bit. Are you sitting here? Yeah. It's like sometimes you just need a little cry. I love a good cry. getting that fetal position, get it all out, have a good howl. Get into the fetal position.

Fuck yeah, dude. How do you cry standing up? You idiot. Upside down, let go back in. I'm hydrating. Oh, that's smart. And save water. Yeah, you're like your own diesel plant.

Yeah. Anyway, let's. Or a race-style plant, probably, if you're letting salty tears back in your body. Any that me, me, sorry, I put a bucket on anything I sell though, so I am resailing all not long. Fantastic. Said to devwanakie.com slash salty tears.

Dullartier. Oh. Rich, I'm getting rich. Well, we should wrap it up there. Yeah. Dave, we're back next week with a topic that you've had voted on by the people. And you were telling me it's super close. Do you know what it's going to be yet? I do know what it's going to be, but it was, so I was getting people to vote.

About half a year through the vote, 300 people voted. Between first and second was two votes in it. Wow. I should say, I've put up, I've already got a vote up as well for my next topic. But I put that up before realizing I had one last free choice. So I got to pluck this story out of the hat, which I just loved. I put in the hat with this great little description, and that's, it got me hooked just on the idea of it. That's great.

The I, just the story, a man breaks out of a walk, prison camp to climb a mountain, and go back in. And turn himself in. Oh my God. And without knowing all what he did before and after that. Yeah. What a story. Well done. So yeah, we'll catch you next week. Please follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. What about following our personal accounts? Well, they're all linked in the show. No, it's two. Yeah, I really want to get to 10,000 followers. So if you could, it's like. Which one do you want them focusing on?

Instagram. Instagram. Well, I want to get to. I just deleted Facebook and Twitter off my phone, so don't bother with that shit. I want to get to 100 million followers. Ooh, can I get to one trillion? One trillion dollars. Yeah.

So there's all those sort of links in the show notes. If you want to email us for any longer correspondence, please do. Yeah. So, all those sort of links are in the show notes. If you want to email us for any longer correspondence, please do. Yeah. And if you're like 3000, if you want to follow me, that'd be great. Some people have said, I've noticed a few people say recently that they're getting to the air. They've just got through our whole back catalog and they look for other things to listen to. Well, Dave's up to how many bookcheats there?

It's 30 odd, which is very, it's a very similar structure to do go on. So if you like this show, you're probably gonna like that instead of telling a non-fiction story Dave tells a fiction story from a classic book. I've been on a few episodes as Jess, I think it's one of the best pods out there. Appreciate that a lot.

No, quite as good as primates, a show about primates and poppilic culture. I know, you've answered that was coming. Top five is pretty good. No, book cheaters, I think, in disputably about a show, but primates is more fun. Less nerd. Even though some of the tropics could not be any nerdier, there's been Star Wars and all that sort of stuff as well. And this other podcast I've been doing of recent times called Listen Now

is just about to wrap up its first season. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? So you've covered the owns of classic Aussie rock band Cold Chisel. Yes, so we're gonna do a wrap up episode coming up where Sam and I, my cousin or co-host are with, we're gonna go through the nine studio albums,

Rank Them, we're also gonna name our favorite songs and we've got listeners voting on those sort of things as well. So we're just gonna do a big wrap up. And then I think the next season, as it stands, is gonna be each week we're gonna do a different band, different album. Maybe have guests on coming in and telling us, telling us about there, an album that's important to them, or one of the favorites.

So yeah, hopefully you two can come in and do that at some point. I wanna hear Dave Barry Manolo and Jess's hoody and the blowfish. So I can't wait to hear more about that. Mine will obviously be a scar, Elwood. Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure hoody and the blowfish sound

like they're probably a scat band. No. Scat band. Thank you. Who do scat? Hate scat.. No. Skat band. Thank you. Who do skat? Hate skat. But I love skat. Oh, you love the skat.

You want a skarif out this week? Yeah, right. Dave, you talk over me. All right, fantastic. Thanks for listening. Peter's up at dogoon.com. But until next week, also, thank you. And I was like, no!

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I mean, if you won. It's up to you. Guys, guys, it's, it's me Dave Wannocky here. Hey, Phil and Dave. Fucking pissed off. Why Dave? I've got to make a retraction, a factual update, a little asterix if you will. We just finished recording the episode. Dave, why are your eyes closed? I'm too angry to look at you. I angry at myself. I've

let the team down. I'm upset. We did the episode and I thought it was great. It was a great story from Matt, so we had a bit of fun at the end of the patreon episode I was taking what I was about to take a piss and I suddenly realized hang on Fibonacci that rings a fucking bell. It's the Fibonacci sequence not Archimedes was in the bath It was fucking Archimedes Fibonacci probably had a bath Oh What David's not like you'd get tweets about it. No, I'm sure I have at this point,

and if you have one, yes, I would like an apology. Ha ha ha. After my apology. Fuck. I came back in a nearly puncher hole in the ball, and he- Yeah, are you sure he's not the guy who watches dancing? How are you thinking of- I think you've Adam Garcia.

Adam Garcia. And Judge on so you think you can dance. Sorry,? I think Adam Garcia. Adam Garcia. A judge on so you think you can dance. Sorry, if I'd made that mistake, I would have definitely pushed a hole in my mouth. Said Adam Garcia from... From Bootman. Oh, Bootman and dirty codies. Dirty codies.

Oh, they need a bath. Much like Fibberblochie. Oh, it doesn't need a bath. It was Archimedes. Fuck. Fuck. Oh, the Archimedes sequence of events that have led us to here. This is tragic. I need to have taken Archimedes to our bath

to wash this shame off of him. It is while that you made us drive back here. Three, four hours away. We're all living in the country tonight. I'm not here. She'll have them taking that piss. I'm too pissed off to piss. You came in real hot.

And I reckon you pissed my dear, the same. Can you temperament affect piss temperature? Let's find out. If you're a son of a bitch. Let's all go in. Let's go in. No, we're not coming in with you. Stop asking.

Please come in with me. Please hold my hand. Hold something else. Oh. Yes, go on. I hold you peace. Forever. Yep. I cannot believe it.

I object. I thought that was a great episode, and I'm really sorry that I said Archimedes. You didn't, though. That's a problem. You made it unlistenable to nerds who would understand the difference. I can meet these. You didn't though, that's from love. I went, I didn't. What the fuck? You made it un-listenable to nerds who would understand the difference. And good people. There's no chance of editing out

because we talked about Fibonacci so much. So one's a scientist, now there's a mathematician. Is that what you're telling me? Oh, no, no, he's gonna go. Like, you were just Fibonacci, he is a mathematician. All right, that's all you need to know. I won't see you hearing you yell from the toilet again. Fuck!

Fibonacci! That's scurrimousy! Oh, for the course of... Can I do the rendaggo? I'll command these as of course. A fucking mathematician, but also physicist, engineer, inventor, and astronomer, you fucking dumb shit! He was regarded as one of the leading scientists in classical antiquity. I don't think we need to talk about that anymore.

Fibonacci was the most talented western mathematician of the Middle Ages. Okay. You should do an episode on him to pay your debt. I'm so sorry to Fibonacci and all his relatives. I'd love to hear more about Fibonacci in the future, so you can say it to an episode when it's actually relevant. I'd love Dave to go take a piss. Go take a piss. All right, thanks everyone. I apologize. Bye. Light is...

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