Two In The Think Tank - 23 - Alan Rickman: Master Movie Villain (plus other 2016 Celebrity Deaths)

Episode Date: March 30, 2016

A listener suggested that there seem to have been more celebrity deaths this year. Matt, Jess and Dave discuss this and also the life and death of legendary English actor Alan Rickman. Now a member of the 69 club, they discuss his humble beginnings as the son of a biscuit factory worker, through to a short career in graphic design before smashing out a brilliant career on the stage and screen. Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Well, he's he's not me and he's not you. Oh, he's Matt Stewart Hello, Matt Stewart. Hey guys. I was exciting. Hey. Yeah, cuz I thought there was part of me that thought that was gonna be Dave sure, but then you said that you've already introduced. It's not Dave. Yeah, both of you. And then I'm like, oh, that's really, now is it down to probably me, but I'm always ready for something from left field

with you, Jess, because you just throw things in. And I never know. I'm a wild card. You're a wild card. Yeah. You're a wild card. You got a wildcard. Yeah. You're a wildcard. You got a wildcard into the Royal Comedy Final? I did.

And I've been wildcarding it ever since. There are some people who probably made, this is the first time they've ever heard the show and they genuinely are surprised to hear your voice, Matt. Do you wanna say hi to them? Oh hi, welcome. Welcome to the show. Yeah.

It's really good to have you here. Yeah, thanks for coming. 20 odd episodes in. We're starting to get good at this. Can you tell? Yeah, you're from that great intro, that great wild card of an intro. This is a show where we take an entrance to research a topic and then report back to the other guys.

On the topic, Matt, your turn, what's going to say on the podium? Yeah. A podium finish? On the podium. Oh, that's good. Oh, that's good. Oh, what's he gonna say on the podium? On the podium finish? On the podium. Oh, that's a good one. Oh, that's a good one. Oh, that's a good one. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one.

Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one.

Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's fair. Michelle Williams. He's the Michelle Williams. Yeah. So to our Kelly, Roland and Beyonce Nulls. Yeah.

We'll also. Even he's the Michelle Obama to us, Elba Rekko-Bammer, which we are both. We're both Barack Obama. I'm the Les Mizrables to your Ron Hit La Barassie and Humphrey B. Flabéa from Tizm. Wow. Sorry about that Les. That was a bit rough. It was also two specific.

Two. Two. Well, that was a bit rough. It was also two specific things. Well, that was a good idea. And that's why you will never leave that third podium. No, that's not true. I'm not even on the third place in the podium. I'm on the third podium. Yeah, yeah, nine. So what does that nine?

Nine. Third on the third. Have you guys ever been involved? Could you ever play sport or win any medals or certificates growing up? Yeah. I'm sure I would have mentioned this before because I do all the time. I was St Paul's Junior Tennis Club's most promising junior.

Hello! Oh my god, what, um, great. And what happened to your tennis career? Um, well when the, when, when from juniors to like open age like adults or whatever, I quit. Because I would have had to, I would have had to find another competition and it just never, never happened. Most promising and then you gave away that talent. What could it be? Well, I mean, most promising at St. Paul's junior tennis club. Still something, isn't it? I wasn't even the best player on my team.

It was a weird result. No, take it. Shut up, take it. No, I do take it. Yeah, I was with pride. I was the year seven high jump champion. High jump. That's really high.

I beat all the tall girls too. That's good. What was your technique? Were you season of kicking over or doing the Fosby flop? Fosby flop? You were in a flopper. I can tell you're a flopper from way back in the day. Yeah, and I have a good arch.

How high-drecking you could have, you could have backed it and you peaked. I don't remember, I don't remember how high it was. Dave, could you just stand up for a second? I wanna see if Jess still has it. Yeah. Ready? I need more of a run up.

On your marks. Here we go. And here she comes. Well, that's great technique. And she's cleaned me by a country mile. Well done go. And here she comes. Well that's great technique and she's cleaned me by a country mile. Well done. Yes that was really good. Thank you. Now are you landed back in your seat? Yeah. I'm ready. I'm ready to wash up. I'm ready to even puffed. Do you get puffed from a little jump like as far as sports go? Well you've never been

you seven hard jump champion. Well quick ask me ask me how many things I want. How many things did you win absolutely zero? Let's move on okay old tiny hands more than you could hold a pencil, but could hold a jabs on apparently No, you say you laugh about my tiny hands. I could never do discus in primary school So couldn't get my hands around it. What the fuck? How are you an adult now? How did you make it? It's luck.

I think it was like nature trying to just weed out the weak. Yeah, it's somehow you just clawed your way back in. What's the problem with the internet age? It's people like Dave survived now. When they shouldn't have. Shouldn't have. If this was, you know. If we were hunting together.

You'd be gone. And instead of gone. I'm just gone anyway You know when you see someone who's enjoyed something even before they said it Yeah, he did that was a great moment Thank you, and I would have been to Would have been to is this week's topic sport related at all? No, it isn't, but it's... I'm sorry about that. Have you explained the hat recently? We talk about the hat a bit.

So the way we pick out topics is we think of something we find interesting ourselves. Or we get people to tweet or email in, which you can do at any time at dogoonpodontwitter and dogoonpodatgmail.com. And then Matt has been putting all these suggestions into a hat and lately we've actually just been pulling them out and researching what you guys want us to talk

about. Yeah, so on this week's episode, I've actually got two suggestions because the one I pulled out just tied in nicely to another one that we got a few weeks ago. So I've kind of combined them both. The first one is just like a little a little bit of a preamble at the start, I guess. So this is a double header. So you're double header. There's a mini in a main. So an on-tray. The main one is involved in the mini one. I like this. What was this? The first time we've had this. Yeah, it is. We're changing the face of do-go-on pod cast.

They said it wouldn't be done. Yeah, I guess that they probably would have if someone had asked them. So we usually start with a question to get into the topic. You're going to have two questions, I'll just go to the one and then the other. I'll do the first, I'll ask a question for the first one, then we'll figure out for the second one. Of course, as we usually say, this is sub tedious for the people listening at home because they've read the topic as they pushed the download button.

But anyway, I might have even been the reason they downloaded it. Yeah, it could be. So they're like, just hurry up and talk about it. We don't give a shit about your sporting shits. No, they do though. They love that. Keep down. I think they just got to know us a little better. Small hands,

lawny. That's right. High jump and ferkens. Most promising talent mat. Yeah. Oh, yeah. On the podium. Um, so third. Yes. This year, this year that we're in right now, you might not be listening to it when we're recording, but this year is 2016. My question is what bit of bad luck has been happening to a lot of celebrities this year? Oh, had a lot of deaths. Yeah, that's it. Alright, that's death. Celebrity deaths. Oh, so you... that was the question. What bad luck has been happening? So this year alone, we've a lot of people have died.

But in previous years, obviously celebrities have never done that. No, but they have, but last year, for example, I think we all remember 2015 was a big year for tax fraud for celebrities. So that was a bad luck they had last year. This year it's all about death, though. Do you read a magazine every now and then, would you? Rolling Stones, top 10 bad luck moments. Obviously, a number one will be Celebrity Yetz.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're being smart-ass, but it's a serious thing. No, no, we are joking about that. None of the Rolling Stones have died this year as well, which is weird. Yet. Good point. So this came in from, on our Facebook page, from a listener named Jo.

She asked if we had noticed that so many celebrities are dying this year, and she wanted to know if we sort of had a theory about it, whether it's coincidence, but she just, she said she was blown away about it, and she's taking predictions around the office as to who's going to be next. Which is creepy, but good call, it's a good fun game. Who do you reckon is going to be? But then if you're right, you're like, yes! Oh, whoops.

See, this is the second time it's happened. Remember when you did the Queen Elizabeth episode? And I was like, I was gonna do that! Like two weeks ago I googled the 27 Club to like look into it. And maybe it was because maybe I'd read Joe's message or maybe it was before that. But I was so like, I wonder if there's something there and then I forgot all about it. The 27 clubs are good one, but I think what I've noticed, I've got a, I mean, I've got a bit of a list. Yeah, hit us with a list to remind people of who has died.

Is it just this year you're focusing on? Yeah, well, it actually, to me, it started late last year, after Christmas last year, Stevie Wright the easy beat singer died then Lemmy the from head from motorhead bass player singer died not a day later then into January David Bowie pass away then Glenn Frey from the Eagles, co-founder of the Eagles, died Harper Lee, died to Killer Mockingbird, and then into March, George Martin, the fifth beetle, one of the many fifth beetles, a pass away. So definitely have been like that, they were the big ones as heaps, like I went through

long lists, but I would say in my mind mind there that sort of probably towards the bigger names John English passed away recently Australian TV stonestinger from all together now that's what I remember him from somebody who's also like a pint of pants and stuff but those got I think the one thing I'd say that links all those people are that they were at least a little bit old. Like the youngest person on that list was 69, so I don't know if it's... Or 67 actually Glen Frey. But...

At least a little bit old. Yeah, it's not to be... And they're all musical people, the ones you've been listening to. They're all musical apart from Harpale, who was an author. But she has the word Harp in her first name. That's right, no, yeah, good point, she was. Which is mocking birds, that are a beautiful singing voice. That's right, so it's all coming back to music.

Yes. All right, you want someone who wasn't... No, I'm just thinking of the name, that's part of the theme. Oh, okay, yes, sure. Is it anyone who's not musical? Yeah, for instance, Joe Alaski, who was a voice actor, who took over the voice roles for Bugsbudding, Daffy Duck, Silvis of the Cat and Tweety Bird after Mel Blank died in 1989. So, probably the versions that we were familiar with going up. And I'll just bring it back to music again. So he was the voice of the bunny,

but there was a quite a pop of the music competition called The Voice. Well, that feels like a... That just high five day, because I saw where he was going and I fucking loved him. Because I'm going through them and they're... They're all musical. A lot of them are musical.

What about... What are Dan Haggady, who was Grizzly Adamsly atoms an actor best known for his beard and rugged looks he was 74 Was that funny two-day what a mystery It's like you're training this like something that can spiritually, 74 year old man has died. No, I'm, I mean, I think I said early on that the, I think that, you know, it does seem weird that they're all happening at the moment, but it does seem like that they're not many that are sort of well before their time. I think like Bowie... Yeah, everybody was he 69 He's old. He was 69. That's right. Um, so that that is quite young. So having said that

I just laughed at the 74 year old. That's not that much different. No, this is sounds on paper a lot younger than 74 to me And I was very sad about everybody. We'll admit that and shocked. I was surprised. I didn't realize he was ill. Yeah me though I think there are different theories about I was sort or surprised I didn't realize he was ill. Yeah me either. I think there are different theories about, I was sort of reading why people think that maybe it seems like so many celebrities are dying where maybe it's no more than normal but they are some big ones, right? So there was a theory that I don't think quite

checks out that because of the internet age a lot more celebrities are being well known and being produced and sort of there. Like fandom has become bigger because of the online world. And is it also easier to find a community and then like, cause do you know when you go on Facebook and David Bowie died or or Lemmy to a lesser extent people were like, Rest in Peace, David Bowie,

oh here's my favorite, David Bowie track on, to a lesser extent, no, to hit song or something like that. And then all these rock legends came out like, people from the foodfarters photos like Lemmy was like a big hard work moment. But like in older times maybe only really famous people would be on the national news. And I'm proud for that to just be a small newspaper article.

That might make sense. Like only the metal community would have really been aware of Lemmy's passing when now that's just like everyone's got metalhead friends and they see him on their posting about on their Facebook. What do you guys think about people posting about the grief of celebrities on Facebook? Do you have an issue with it? I don't have an issue with that. I don't particularly like it. I don't think I've ever posted about a celebrity's death. Oh, Gough Whitlam about us already. No. Death. Ah, Goff Whitlam, I did.

Yeah. I tweeted about Goff Whitlam. What did you mean? To eat about Goff Whitlam? Who was it? Don't even remember. We give context to the officers. Yes, sure.

There's a prime minister. Obviously. And the famous one that they say. Yeah, he made a lot of change in a short amount of time. Yeah. He's seen by some people as being a political hero and a strailer and some people probably seen the opposite of that pretty divisive. But most people, most politicians in hindsight, and at the time, not like that as well.

But so what was your post about Gothwist? I don't even remember. It was just a little tweet. It was just something like, I honestly don't remember, but that's the only time I can think that I've said anything about a celebrity because I kind of feel like firstly morning is generally quite personal and private. It doesn't have to be like if it makes you feel better to share something than bile means go for it, but at the same like you didn't know David Bowie. But that's so unfair because then sometimes certain musicians can really have a big impact on your life I don't know. I just everybody do whatever you want to do. Have you ever posted one math?

Yeah, I posted I posted a video of motorhead when he passed and Live video went I found footage of the time I saw them So I posted that and I did that I did that directly after reading a live video when I found footage of the time I saw them. So I posted that and I did that, I did that directly after reading a motor head, on the motor head account them asking people to celebrate his life and talk about it.

And so I'm like, oh, fuck yeah, I'll do that. Yeah, maybe that's different, that's better. Because they want, like, I mean, there's, I don't see what the downside is, it's kind of like a nice thing. It's a celebration, you know of the laugh I don't I don't think it's I don't really have an issue with it. I know pisses some people off Like they feel like it's it's turning something into a Like a selfish moment like a yeah, how can I make this about me? But I mean, it's a fine line, I guess.

I didn't think I was doing that, but I probably, I guess I, it's exactly what I was doing. I said, this was the time I saw Moada head and the first time and it was amazing. Me, I did. I think that's different. I think, that's exactly what I was gonna say. I think some people make it a lot about

themselves and it's an attention seeking thing. But I imagine what I my post would have read exactly like that. Yeah, maybe just because I know you and like you that I don't mind it. It's with somebody that I don't like. I'm like fuck off, dickhead. Yeah. What part of social media is not about me? Yeah, totally. I have an opinion on something. Yeah, everything you write is... I mean, some is worse than others, but it is funny when people get a bit uptight about it. Like, come on mate, yeah, we get it.

You have a good day, but it's like, well, what else do you use it for? I just don't like when it's really flashy and like, oh my god, can't stop crying because, you know, a musician who musician who you know one song of theirs and you're just doing it jumping on a bandwagon that I don't appreciate. It is funny well because it's like you can stop crying to to type this message. I mean you could be doing it through the tears. But this is the thing like if it was out I got to let people

know. But if it was a family member, would you do it? Yeah, like would you... I... I wouldn't, some people do. I always feel it, like, when you get messages of directed at someone, it's like, I guess when someone's passed away and you want to somehow put a message out to them,

like knowing that Facebook probably isn't the medium, but what is, like you say a prayer or something, but if that Facebook probably isn't the medium, but what is, like you say a prayer or something, but if you don't really believe in that, I guess Facebook makes it feel like you're getting it out there to them. Facebook is that religion. Super ridiculous. In a way. But whatever helps the grieving process for you, I guess. I was fine with funny when people go like, I've got the best girlfriend in the world. Happy anniversary. Oh my god, I'm out of my mind. Yeah. And it's like, well, you, I imagine you're gonna see them today. Probably just let them know, you know. Yeah. Yeah. No, is it or is that a sweet

thing where you've gone? Look, I want everyone to know that I love this person. Is that a nice thing? No, but the chances are they're sitting on the couch next to each other and they're not actually talking to each other Yeah, I got one word one word for them that is gross I hate when I see that next Iki Go fuck yourself. I especially hate it because nobody loves me We love you Jess. I love you Jess.

Hey what were we talking about again? Death. Death. Now I'll probably die. Anyway. This is it. So you were, we said Bowie a passway when he was 69. Another, which is a pretty great age to pass away.

I remember. David, come on. There was another great guy, a great celebrity who was in the 69 club, which I think. Is this such a thing? There is now. Should we aim for that? I mean, in 69.

I mean, there's a 69 club. That's 27 club, pretty famous, I think, because it's quite a young age. But I think the studies have shown, studies have shown, that's what a wanker says, when they don't have an actual study. I think studies have shown. I think you'll find. The 27 is nowhere near the most common age that big 70s are, they're normally a bit older,

but... No, but it is quite a young and tragic age. It's a young age. And they keep dying from drug overdoses and stuff. They die in dramatic ways, not just old age. Yeah, totally. But some other people who passed away at 69 years of age, which is still young here. There is a 69 club, I'm a big fan of this.

Stop saying 69 club. I've got a couple of names. They include Louis Armstrong. Oh! Saddam Hussein, which is probably not... I don't know. Well. And evil, can evil. Oh, yeah.

What, you lived life to the full? Yeah. I mean, I really, I think 69 is still too young. Yeah. Maybe not for Saddam. I don't know if you can think about that. You know, I don't have an opinion on that. Oh boy. We'll see.

He was XSK. Yeah, he was. he was XS. Yeah, he was too soon too soon gone too soon Really it's awful. No, definitely not and at a point So 69 for what Louie? But also one other one other man who I see is a great man and this was the other suggestion of topic. Okay from I Guy who got on board this podcast early days named Cecil. He has to know you with his work. Yes We know we know Cecil's work. We do his tweets So he he suggested that if do you know who I'm talking about am I

He don't know. Let me just tell you this Am I? Who do you wanna know? Let me just tell you this. Ho, ho, ho. No, I have a machine gun. Great impression of. It sounded like Sean Connery, to be honest. I thought it wasn't Sean Connery.

But that's what it sounded like. Sean Connery is still alive in definitely any say these. That we know of. We're talking, are we talking Alan Rickman? That was the impression. Come on everyone, die up. No, that was very Sean Connery. I mean, I know the line Yeah, I might have been Sean Connery doing hands grubber. Yeah

Fair enough try again Say Harry Potter in the Alan Rickman voice. I don't really watch Harry Potter. What's going on? I just say the words Harry Potter in their Alan Rickman voice Your face is flat right out. He's like a cock in your voice. Alright, maybe we'll cut that shit out. I think my favorite Rickman line, which is probably one of his more famous ones was from Prince of Thieves, where he's playing Sheriff of Nottingham. And he's, I think he's cousin. And his cousin he told him to cut Robin Hood's heart out with a spoon and the cut said, shouldn't we just use a knife and a ripman goes, no I'm going to use a spoon, he's like,

why a spoon he says, it's a dollar. I can't do the worst, he says something like it's dull. I it'll hurt more you idiot It's a great line. That's a great line. It's a great line. It's a bit of a new song. I probably did a little bit better I didn't do I didn't disrespect him by trying to do a voice To be honest, but I will impersonate which ever dead celebrity I like and I will do it in the style of short Connery every single time I like it. And we'll do it in the style of short-connery every single time. Do Sean Connery? I will only do him once he dies.

That's the rule. I will only do him once he dies. Dave Hornicky. Sexy is man alive. You're going to do it? Do him? I believe it. Money penny?

That's not bad. It's James. Lost it. I'm sending you a fuck. Still fine. I believe it money penny. Well, that's not bad James lost it sending you a fact He's got a facts in the car cool guy Do you guys know much of him as a suggestion? I was like alright so things I wanted to find I'm like Alan Rickman controversy. Did somebody type again? Yeah I was camo with nothing. Scandal.

Well yeah I just wanted to see if it sounds like he just everything that came up was just great actor, great guy. Great guy. But I thought maybe we could just go through his early years talk about his career a little bit and that could sort of be the episode. Do you think about that? No. No, I want the controversy. Yeah, I want it. I'm afraid I can't deliver you any.

Well, thank you so much for listening, everybody. It's been another episode. Do go on. What about the people who, I mean, I already feel horrible for the Rickman fans who might have searched this out in particular Just like it would be really nice to just talk about here people talking about Alan for a bit longer I've started off with all this bullshit. Yeah, we have done a lot of bullshit. Sorry. Sorry everybody So

Alan Rickman was born in actin London in 1946. He was the son of Margaret. She was a housewife and his father's name was Bernard and he worked in a factory. What kind of factory? Oh my god, that was my question. Nah. If you recognize that answer answer you think I would have said a whatever factory just say a machine gun factory Let's guess machine gun I reckon biscuit Let's go with biscuit I reckon he worked in a Dream factory fuck off man Pick something that actually happens in factories or you don't get to play our game anymore

I don't want to play your game anymore just I've been sick of playing your little games I reckon biscuit factories are pretty high up there possibility Regen wouldn't that be a great job of all factory jobs bloody bickies all right, but we're all and we're all sorry Boss just got to test this this one yeah I can't imagine the factories would have been great they're only making like boring biscuits like scotch fingers no I spoke about 46 there's no creams factory factory worker I like shortbread creams personally oh I didn't know that existed shortbread and cream together

no they're like they're like the iron and shortbread cream yeah they got the I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'll take you Kingston. Mm-hmm. Kingston? Yeah, I was a bit... Could take you out of pinch. Second to a Monte Carlo.

Alright, so Bernard was working in a Monte Carlo factory, but he's wife Margaret gave birth to one Alan Rickman 1946. What else we got? Rickman's dad, the factory worker, Monte Carlo. Died when he was only eight years old. Oh, no. When Alan was only eight years old. So, it's sad.

Well, young dad, wow. It's happened. He was potent. So he, the sonnets, what, maybe seven? Potent. Is it just a disgusting word? When it's talking, a child. I was going to kill them some sort of factory, like biscuit related mishap.

No, because biscuits would never hurt you. It has to be something different. The war? Yeah, died of the law. That's the war. The war, who died of the war. Which finished a while before. Before the Ellen spawn so you're doing an Alan was eight that's been an accident at the best

get factory girl is mr. McMiddler right? yeah and then Ellen comes in it's like dad yeah I'm sure I one knows who that is yet. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha This left Alan's mother to raise Rickman and his three siblings or by herself So I'm gonna chuckle over there just Checking they got given a lifetime supply of Monte Carlo's to ease the pain. I Didn't find that written down specifically But I also didn't find it not really not really written down specifically Which is interesting. Rickman attended Doentwater Primary School in active. Is that where Doent pencils come from?

Bloody hell, I want to think that it is. Again, we haven't seen it not written down. I can't definitively solve it out. Doent is a river. Yeah, Doentwater Primary School. Yeah, so that would, I think that's where those pencils come from, do want river. No, it comes to the river. Yeah, they just, they occur there naturally. Naturally, of course. They just dredge from the bottom. Yeah. They come in 112 different

colors. They're not in order though. So I want to, that's someone's job. Could it be now in frequent stads job? Pencil- missing. That one after before. No, before. Before working two jobs, you know. Yeah, it was hard work. The dormant water primary school followed the Montessori Method of Education. Oh.

How did that? Yes. I hadn't heard of it before. I've heard a few notes about it. Do you know, if you want to... Is Montessori the one where there's no sort of grades? I think in terms of like the Strowzer Grade 1, Grade 2, grade 2 grades, so it's just like... Yeah, exactly. So it terms of like the struggles are grade one, grade two, grade two. Yeah, exactly.

So it's just like the classes were mixed age. Yeah. So you might be in a class with someone who's 32. Alan pair up with Joseph. He's a 32 year old bricklayer. Yeah. But he's learning algebra this week. Yeah, yeah.

So that's the thing. But it's a show this week. Yeah, yeah, so that's that's the thing But it's a she tips of the launch it was it was invented by a lady named Maria Montessori Yeah, well no coincidence. That was that was why Because her name was also the do you know anything about Maria? She was an Italian physician Maria Montessori Italian really yeah, huh? And she she studied extensively She was an Italian physician. Maria Montessori Italian, really? Yeah. And she studied extensively education

with young special needs kids. And that's how she came to create the Montessori method. Other things that you'd find in a Montessori class, the students were able to choose their own activities within a prescribed range of options? They're not just... They're not just like, Play Doe! Alright, Ellen, you're not... No, Da!

Chris, not again! Chris, you've tried that three times this week! I know, two, like, Play Doe probably was an option, right? At a certain stage, Murder. Seriously? Well, I stage, murder. Seriously? Well, I mean, if those two suggestions, but you're gonna limit the children's opportunity to murder, if that's what they wanna do,

if that's how they wanna learn. Yeah, Maria Montessori is. No, I don't think so. And everybody learns differently, but who's the only I learned by doing? Learn by killing. I learned by killing. That's how I learned.

Yeah, that's how I learned that's a bad thing to do. Yeah, but how else would you have known that? I know, then I move on to play that. That's how I learned that. That's a bad thing to do. How else would you have known that? I know. Then I move on to play that. That is true. It is learning by doing. That is what the Montessori method is all about. I pronounce it differently each time. The industry.

The discovery model meant that the students would learn the concepts from working with materials rather than by being instructed directly by the teacher. They kind of just figured out yourself. So there's pretty much the month of the story. Figured. So I would have really struggled with my small hands if someone had just given me some of the tools. I'm going to stop you there, young Dave.

I was there a program for small handed toys. Figured out yourself. No, no, I was not going to take any of that. You'd be a great teacher in a much of a school. It'd be a pretty great job for a teacher, wouldn't it sit down and figure it out yourself? Yeah, I can't help. Okay, do whatever you want.

See ya, and then you just go outside and have a smoke. Just through the window, putting your thumbs up. Looking good kids, like the rooms on fire. Alright. Learn how to put that out. Yeah, just your arson programs really coming along. Thank you, miss. He became involved in drama and high school, but excelled at painting and ended up studying

at the Royal College of Art, which led to him becoming a graphic designer at the Notting Hill Herald. Oh, god. So he was doing that while he was still studying, he was already working a job as a graphic designer. What a dream, Boosh. Yes. So he became a graphic designer. So he actually had a career before acting,

which isn't super common for the superstars, I don't think. And then after graduating, he started his own graphic design studio with some friends. Oh, do you know the name of it? I do. Can we guess it? Yes. Alright, you're Alan Rickman.

Okay, Dave, you studied a lot of drama through university. I need you to get into character, okay? You are Alan Rickman, okay? Be Alan Rickman. I'm your friend. Okay. We're having coffee. We got this. We're naming our graphic design company.

Welcome to Shakespeare's Dog. It was called Shakespeare's Dog. The graphic design studio. I studied drama, of course. I think, okay Matt, even if that is the correct answer, a ways off. Okay, well even if that isn't the correct answer, I think we okay Matt, even if that is the correct answer. A ways off. Okay, well even if that isn't the correct answer, I think we can at least acknowledge that for a moment Dave left us. He did. And Alan Rickman was with us. Yeah, and I would like to say that Dog is an acronym for Shakespeare's Design or Graphics.

Fuuuck. Dog. Just off the cuff, he came up with that. Is that, oh that Just off the cuff. He came up with that. That was... Oh, that was off the cuff. Yeah. I think you'll find on that laptop that you've got written down that that's actually the correct answer of Ellen Rickman's design studio. Design or graphic, Shakespeare's Dog. Yeah. I think it was aka, which is an acronym for... That's an initialism for. Also known as... That's a call back to an episode.

I'm very early. I think the first one ever. Okay, also known as graffiti. G-R-A-P-H-I-T-I. Graph, F-E-T-I-T. You think that that's better than Shakespeare's dog? It. I.

You think that's better than Shakespeare's dog? Design or graphics? Look, honestly, yes. Really? Yes. I want to move on if I can. That is rubbish. It's weird.

Everything about what you just did. That's why Shakespeare's dog. Because I think that is wonderful. I only because I'm lazy. That is the only reason why anyone is hearing what you just said. Your performance was moving though. Thank you. That was really impressive.

Yeah, moving me to vomit. Oh, okay. But that Smackdown was also quite impressive. Yeah moving me to vomit. Oh okay but that Smackdown was also quite impressive. I feel very trapped between I love both of you so so much. So I'm having a great time. You have to choose. Well I'm gonna tell him I have to fuck off. That was his impression of me. It's not bad. Thank you. I'm the master of impressions to I'm not sure if I'm in pressure. So he left his own little company. They were successful, but he left it after three years.

And he did that because he decided that he wanted to have a bloody crack at acting. An acting crack. He wanted to have an acting crack. Good luck mate. Good luck mate. He's good at for crafting. Drinking these mates with you will be back. You'll be back. Graffiti. Big time.

Almost definitely, because that's just how people think. Won't even clean up your desk, mate. You'll be back. Yeah, we'll leave that for you. Yeah. I won't even get rid of your leftover spaghetti rollin' out of the fridge, because it'll keep three or four days. Yeah, and you'll be back.

You'll be back. I'll keep your world's best boss mug on your desk there. So got tea in it. It'll be fine. Yeah, tea keeps Tea case I reckon you'll be back in 15 minutes It'll be a little bit cool. This is piping hot. It'll probably be at appropriate temperature by the time you get back If any, yeah, you're acting failure. I think you really need a break. Yeah, you've been working too hard You'll need an acting break, but you won't get one and that's why you you'll be back here. Yeah. Within 15 minutes. Within 15 minutes. Bloody hell, you need a bit of patience in the acting game, Alan. You'll never. Yeah. Anyway, so he enrolled at Radar. Do you

know what Radar stands for? Royal Academy, Dramatic Arts. Yes. Yes. think it was just art, not plural art. Well, I don't want to be pedantic here, but I actually think that it's none colloquially as Shakespeare's dog, so bring it back. If Shakespeare had a dog, what kind of dog would it be? And second, follow up question, what would he name his dog? Some sort of water hound. And he would name it graffiti, and he did. That's right. It's all coming together.

It's all coming together. Very good. During his studies, Shakespeare was a big focus. He attended Rada when he was around 26 or 27 years old. So that's quite an old to start studying acting full time, which is great. So this still hope for us. I could be a professional Which 26th is you?

I could be a professional actor, a Shakespearean actor. Yeah. Yes. Yes, this is already making Strahd's towards that now. Doth. That's better than I got, but Strahd's. That it was a Strahd. More of it, that was probably more of a little step, but.

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Radar. Radar. Radar. Because I'm thinking like Radar. Radar is better, but I imagine it's better. Because it's Radar. Yeah. Radar.

Radar. Radar. Oh, that's Radar. Yeah, you got to study. Yeah, where are you studying? I'm going to study Radar. Oh, that's Radar. Yeah, it's right A. Yeah, it's right A. And then that same person goes and performs Shakespeare. That makes sense. It is the East.

And Juliet is the sun. I think that says a bit about someone when they go to Shakespeare references. It's from an enjoy yeah. Yeah. Very mainstream. I would have gone with... Out, out, damn spot. Probably one of the ones you wouldn't even know. What's that Macbeth? Yeah. I know a thing or two. Never heard of it.

I hate myself. Now we hate you too, though. Oh, that's right. Team after graduating, Radar. To a 3-year course or just a 1-year? 3-year course. Well, so he's what, 29 or something by the time he's finished? Yeah, I think.

Late 20s. Math's not sure. Late 20s. Yeah, it was late 20s. It's impressive that he had one job in the arse that's hard to crack, and he was doing it well. And then I was like, you know what? I'm going to be an actor now.

Well, I think, and I think he said that it just was kind of not done. You just couldn't just go on being an actor. He saw that as being like it too. Like it was seen as being a bit too self-indulgent and was this guy gonna be an actor? Get a real job mate sort of thing. It would be like that.

Yeah, it's weird because of that attitude. It's why it's slightly easier for the people who do make it even though it's still brutally hard. Imagine how hard it would be if everyone followed their dreams. Oh, shoot. Well, maybe it's saying that people that follow their dreams are any good, I don't know. I don't think that's true.

Are there gonna be people out there, graphic designers who would be mad actors who just never quite had the courage or they weren't in the right circumstance to give it a crack but I can't prove that. There's no way I can so don't make me. But also it wasn't not written down. Oh that's true, it wasn't. Just in my head today.

Get out, get out of me head man. Get out of me. Nickel or an army. Melopes, my temporal lobes. Man this is a third time I'm starting a sentence. After graduating Rada, Rickman acted in many stage productions through England and Scotland. And he also started getting involved with the Royal Shakespeare Company.

Huh, haven't heard of them. In 1985, he scored the lead role in the Royal Shakespeare Company. Huh, haven't heard of them. In 1985 he scored the lead role in the Royal Shakespeare Company's production of, I looked at it, you know, when you can get pronunciations from the website. I looked this up, but I'm not gonna get right. Le-la-zon-dan-zon-ly. That's not it. But it's spelled if I- So it's not even a Shakespeare?

No, it was like an adaptation of something else, but it's felt if I if I it's not even a Shakespeare if I know it was like an adaptation of Something else, but they did it. I'm gonna call it Les if you said it in Australia And I'm gonna be Les liaisons danger russies. Oh boy. Is it something to do with dangerous Yeah, I'm get say did you say what you was this? Nineteen eighty five nine eighty five so he's thirty nine and he's getting his big break is that right? He's big That's not right. He was born in 46 Yes, is that right? Yeah, never never doubt Dave's maths. That right. So 39 and this is his big stage break

So he yeah, so he was I mean yes yes, yes, he's been doing bit part, like, no, he was doing but this is a big step up. Yeah, this is a bit of a break, but I mean, he's, he's had breaks and you know, it's like a career is never one big break. It might be seen that way by the public. Like the public see his big break coming later, like if he didn't get that further, big break, we wouldn't be talking about this big break sort of thing. Sure, but something that's... That's all a step. The next milestone in his life is 39.

So that's quite... Yeah, so through his 30s, he did a lot of acting, a lot of stage acting. And he also was... But he was on some BBC TV productions and stuff like that through that time as well. So, I mean, you know, he had a bunch of different breaks of different sizes.

But yeah, 1985 is called the lead role in Leisung, Dangerous News. And that production went really well in England and was transferred to Broadway in 1987, which was Rickman's introduction to the American entertainment industry, I guess, and also vice versa. Yeah, right. A year later in 1988, he scored his first role in a Hollywood blockbuster, playing German

villain Hans Gruber in the first diehard movie. Nice. Which is just a great role. One of the all-time great action movies. Yes. I'll come back to that in a second, but first I just want to great. One of the all-time great action movies. Yes. I'll come back to that in a second, but first I just want to talk about some of the, he, he was nominated for a Tony Award for his role in the Broadway version of the Les Laisons Dangerousies.

What's his call it the French play? The French play. So. Nominated for Tony. So he's nominated for Tony. Andrew Rousey's. What's his call at the French play? The French play. Nominated for Tony. So his nominated for Tony. One little bit of the ego, but he didn't win it, but. That's nice though. Yeah, it's great. Like the man's got skills.

Big skills. That was in. And not just graphic design skills, my tip. That's right. Or dog naming skills. That was his first major award nomination. From there he also was nominated for two Primetime Emmy Awards. He won one.

So that was the only little bit of the Egotta got. He was nominated for one Golden Globe, which he won. He was nominated for four BAFTAs, Gen winning one, three screen actors guild awards, winning one, and he was nominated for another Tony award in 2002, which he didn't quite nab. Apart from that, so they're probably the major ones, these ones are a bit more fun. He was also nominated for two MTV awards. Now that's the one you want. I think that it should be called a me got yeah because you want the MTV Then that's got to come first before the Emmy the Grammy Oscar or tiny the me got 100% agree. Yeah, I like me

Actually, no, I disagree. Sorry Just just above an MTV kids choice award kids choice. Yeah, you want a kids choice award. You might get climbed Oh man, you might get I think the trophy is often like surfboards stuff like that you just like the KFC into the meager KFC KFC KFC all the kids are so I thought you're gonna say get some KFC in there they can tuck you for a chicken a warts MTV or you away off day Emmy Oscar I know if you can't do that's fine but don't bother stalling any longer. It's tricky because it should be CK. I'll come back to you. So he won one MTV award for his

portrayal of Professor Snape in Harry Potter which we haven't talked about yet but he goes on. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. The final one, the one with the Deathly Hallows part two. The other one, he lost, which was for Best Villain for his portrayal of the sheriff of Nottingham in Robin Hood Prince of Thieves, which he played in the 90s. He's not, that sort of... And what was the award for Best? Best Villain.

Best Villain. And I see that as being one of the best villain performances ever, right? I think he's a good villain. He's often said to being one of the best villain performances ever, right? I think he's a good villain. He's often said to be one of the best and he changed big screen villains forever and he is with his portrayal of Hans Gruber. But I looked up, I was like, this is bullshit. How could he possibly have lost that in 1992, right? So I looked it up and there was pretty strong villain competition that year right 1992

let's think about this is a debut at two but is that too early for speed which I think is the best villain ever Dennis Hopper I think it was too early for that I think you might have been nominated for that but the the other nominees were Rebecca D'Amorene from the hand that rocks the cradle. Robert D'Aneiro from Cape Fear. Oh, see, that's a great villain. That's Peter of Patrick. Robert Patrick from Terminator 2. Oh, that's awesome with a great villain. And Wesley Snarts from New Jack City.

I don't know what, I don't remember that movie, but um, the winner was Rebecca D'Amorene for the hand that rocks the cradle. I don't even know that film. Because women can be evil too, you guys. Yes. A quality. Definitely can can be evil too you guys. Yes. Equality. Definitely can.

That's pretty sweet. Equality. The Equality Evil Award goes to Rebecca Demone. I don't know that movie. They're probably three of his biggest roles. Who do you think of when you think of his most famous roles? Which ones do you think of back on Ellen Rickman? Yeah, oh definitely Hans Gruber Hans Gruber there the snake snake and love actually

Yeah, what should he he was in the love actually girl was a little bit He wasn't a villain. He was kind of a nice guy But he was kind of an asshole because he did he cheat or he was going to. Yeah, he didn't, I don't think he actually did, but he destroyed his marriage. Right, because he bought a necklace or something. Yeah. Man, people have turned on that movie. They loved it for quite a few years after it came out, and now every Christmas.

Who's turned on that movie? Give me names and numbers. Publish. Oh, you're still on board? Yes. Okay, good. It's a great film. It's just a masterpiece. Wow, okay. Big call?

Big call. There's a fair bit of creepiness in there. Do you think it's... People write essays about every year. Creepiness. Yeah, just some... Big, gross stuff. Would you give it the Jess Perkins Kids Choice Award?

Yeah. That's right. The Jess Perkins Kids Choice Award. Check that out in the audience. Which of the awards of my children give out? Oh. There you go. Took you a sec. You're too imagining with children, yes it is.

Yes it is. Because I'm lonely. Oh. They're enough too. I was about to die hard. He almost didn't accept the role of Hans Gruber. Yeah, which obviously was a, it's kind of a, it was a big turning point in his career. Oh, I mean, it wasn't a turning point. It was just an elevation of his career.

Yeah, just a big step up. Yeah. So speaking in 2015, he recalled his initial dislike of the role. He was offered it only a couple of days after arriving in America in 1987. What? Just in the street, man, you look evil. And then he started speaking, they're like, what you sound evil. Yeah. Can you do a German? Oh my goodness. So this is a direct quote. He said, I didn't know anything about LA. I didn't know anything about the film business. I never made a film before, but I was extremely cheap. And apparently Bruce Willis was costing the movie

about $7 million, which was crazy back then. Wow, really? Yeah, it almost sounds like that's not a real fact, but I read it somewhere, so. No, but that's a lot of... That's a lot of mullah. That's a lot of mullah. A lot of buns.

A lot of buns or? Buns, it's a... It's buns, right? That's buns. David Brent on the office, is that? Ah, okay. Bons, it's a shawfer, Bunsen Berner. Nice little owner.

Oh, nice little owner. Buns, yeah, yeah. Oh, what else? It's a great yeah great print one But that is a lot of money for for Bruce Willis and in comparison dear Rickman asked for oh do it for a Thousand bucks just a combination Now he I he would have paid all right, but just knowing you that kind of money I suppose

And he was you know in the mainstream. He was an unknown. Yeah, that's right. Tony Awards don't necessarily open your doors in Hollywood, I don't think. Or Tony Award nominations, it is. Yeah, I think that I think get you $7 million contrast. That's right. So after reading the script, he was underwhelmed. He quoted himself as saying, remembering, saying something like, what the hell is this? I'm not doing an action movie. Come on, you could probably say it better.

Say it in the movie. Come on. You could probably say a better say to me accent Come on Apart from anything else that wasn't that wasn't the quote. I'm not doing an action movie You sound like Nina Conti doing one of her Wow, yeah, like the ventral the quiz committee. You sounds like you're throwing your voice, and your lips are moving. No bad. I've got half the job done. Perkins doing half the job since 1990.

Half the job of ventral-liquist is just talking. I think a lot of people that I'm doing that right now. I'm doing half the job. And doing it well, that. Get a laugh, Jess. Grow up. You turn on me so quickly. Yeah, fuck. That's like an homage to you, the quick turner. He turned on me so quickly.

Yeah, fuck. That's like an homage to you. You're the quick turner. I'm a quick turner. I've learned all my quick turning from you. So eventually though, it was one over by what he said was the whittiness of the script. He quite liked it. I like the twitchy.

Yes, it is quite twitchy. So bad. I mean, I- Do you want to have a fucking go over's so bad. I mean, I... Do you want to have a fucking go over there, man? No. Can I do you a little British accent, which always sounds like a little... Yeah, but it's a generic one.

We're talking about a recently deceased legend of Staging Scrain. And you're just... Oh, hello, on a moment. The script is rather witchy. That was like he was alive again. I have changed my mind. He also... I will say this is a great action.

Like it is really great. You would read that script, I imagine. It's because it's funny. But in his mind, he's like, I'm a theater actor, an action movie. What do you like in his mind? Sorry. What do you like in his mind? What's he thinking?

Which bit, the bit I was about to say? Yeah. Come on man, give it a go. So, but he, so apart from the weediness, he also really liked the positive and highly intelligent treatment of its black characters, which he said last year in 2015, he said, so 28 years ago that was quite revolutionary,

and quietly so. There's two really strong, there's the limo driver, and then there's the, sort of, buddy cop that helps out, Bruce Willis. Yeah, it's funny that that was revolutionary, right? But I mean, it's not like, I don't know how far we've come since then, but, um, yeah, that's funny that that was revolutionary, right? But I mean it's not like I don't know how far we've come since then but Yeah, that's amazing like as a kid whenever I watched it was like wouldn't have even thought twice about it If you knew like Alan did it was keyed in Alan you all after accepting the role

He asked if he could make some changes to the character. I have some suggestions. I was thinking... I was thinking he... It sounds a little bit Sydney Sharnbergish, right? Sydney! Sydney! That was what Sydney was all about.

No, making suggestions. I think you made an action, yeah. I think you made an action, yeah. I think you made an action, yeah. I think you made an action, yeah. It is very strange for someone to get their first role in Hollywood and they'd be like, great, I would accept, but I have some suggestions. Yeah, I do.

Well, that's kind of like, do they tell him that? Are you familiar with the movie? Sounds like you are. With Die Hard, you love it. On my faves. You know how he wears a suit in the movie? Yes. That was his suggestion.

Well, I could put him in. What was he going to wear? He was going to wear like just classic terrorists, like sort of that paramilitary sort of gear. Oh, he looks awesome in a suit. Yeah, he does. Totally. It was a great suggestion and it's awesome that they did it. But he wrote a few notes down like here. He's my dear and he left on the desk of the producer and apparently the producer Joe Silver responded by saying, get the hell out of here. You're where what you're told.

Really? Yeah. But when he came back to the set, he was handed a revised script with his suggested changes incorporated. Oh wow. So he was the... I think it was him. I think it was him.

I think it was him. I think it was him. I think it was him. I think it was him. I think it was because I was just good ideas. Yeah. That would be annoying for a producer because you'd be like, damn, I just told him to get out, but it is a good idea. Yeah. It's like, that's the opposite of Shine Big though, because his ideas were no good. Yeah. Some of them were.

Some of them were. Yeah, some of them were. You should be naked. You should be naked in the movie. That's the kids love naked, okay? Chimps are always good. How about instead of a terrorist, a chimps got the building. No, he said no chimps chimps are always good How about instead of a terrorist a chimps got the building now you said no chip that was a good He said changes to a dog. That was a good suggestion

He's a chip to a dog and get that man a suit. I tell you what but he wanted to call back to the future Space man from Mars no It's blue top space from Pluto It's worse I don't like this tie-hunt, I don't think it would be called Tyard in brackets. Man from Pluto. I think it should be called.

No, Sydney. Another, probably the other big suggestion he made was he got a whole new scene added to the movie where he, you know, the scene where he's, Oh yes, the American accent. Yes, he added that in. So there's a scene. There's a scene just where he's oh yes the American accent. Yeah, see he added that in so There's a scene there's a scene just where he is discovered by Bruce Willis

John McLean and So you see on his face for a half a second. He's like fuck, but then he's like all right And he starts talking in American accent because he's a German You're one of those terrorist guys And it sort of plays dumb. Yeah, yeah, that's right. You have one of those terrorist guys on your tree. Oh, yeah. And it sort of plays dumb. Oh, it's really good, Matt.

So you can do American, but it's not British or strong Connery. Interesting. I can do an Englishman doing American. An Englishman doing a German doing American. Do we do German doing American? Yeah, that's very specific, but I heard it. Yeah, I heard all of the facets. I think that takes real skill.

It does, absolutely it does. So yeah, that was an awesome saying. I watched it again today. And did he just have, so he suggested I can do an American accent? Well, I think he was, it was found that he could do a pretty convincing American accent. And then he suggested that maybe he, he pretends that he's, um, he's a hostage. That was his suggestion, which he's really cool. Or rather than just, anyway anyway go watch the fucking movie

Just I don't need it. I don't have time to fuck around Okay, yeah, no, sorry, but yeah, no, I didn't manage to suspect I am just really enjoying the your podcast And your friendship he he didn't like to be known as a great villainous actor He once said that I don't play villains, I play very interesting people. Okay, well, to your own horn, they're mate. Alright mate. Alright, we've all been to art college, okay? But I think that'd just be like a lot of actors that achieve some success will get pigeon hold a bit and he certainly is seen through that villain filter. I think when he died,

you heard a lot of the articles written about him were great villain actor and stuff like that. But that's a man I love a great villain. They're awesome. Super memorable. People aren't, I don't think anyone's been disrespectful, but it's still be like, oh look I can do other stuff. And he did. He played a good guy in a bunch of movies and truly madly deeply. Love actually. Yeah, if you're sort of sense and sensibility. If you like adultery. Dogma? You think dogma?

I haven't seen dogma. I haven't seen ages, but I really liked it at the time. So Rickman featured in a few different polls every years. He was rated in an Empire poll at number 34 in their poll for their hundred sexiest stars in film history. 34. Just you made that noise. Is Ellen Rickman an attractive like my humorous type? Yeah, it's not going to be about him.

I mean, I'm definitely mesmerizing voice. No, I'm happy for him to be on the list. Just the 34 is great. Yeah. You know his number one. Yes. I am number one. No, he was Alan Rickman was 34. Oh, sorry. That was I know it's very hard to differentiate but that was Sean Connery. Oh, I beg your pardon. Clearly. Yeah, no, now that you say that I can hear it. Yeah, okay. Cause this line is dialect. Yeah, no you're right, you're right. One Scottish, one's English. Yeah. I call that a dialect. Yeah, sure enough. So number 34, sexiest ever.

Yes. Shek Shestman ever. In film history. So that was in 1995. Film history. He featured in those polls. I look like they do them nearly every year I think. I think ever, year to year is quite

redundant but yeah but sure. Well I mean there's always new people coming in. In 2013, he'd slipped down a couple 2013. 2013 he's a lot older by then. He pulled at number 40. But still and the drops. And the drops a little bit. And this is a quote from his listing there. It said, well, you wanted to know why. This is kind of describing why. Please. World-wearingness, abiding wit,

and a withering way with sarcasm. Welled. It turns out, be crazy hot. I don't know about crazy. Alas and Richmond remains a perennial favor of him these votes and that's because he's a classy gent. Sexiest role if you like nice Alan then truly, madly, deeply. If you prefer manic Alan, try Robin Hood Prince of Thieves or for classy evil Alan, it has to be diehard. Has to be. Has to be.

In 1997 he was ranked at number 59 in Empire's top 100 movie stars of all time. In 1997 was it? Yeah. So he's only been in movies for less than nine years by that point. Yeah. Amazing. He's really hit the big time. Has he?

He's really skyrocketed. I mean, he's 51 by this time, so. Late Bluma, but a big Bluma. Big Bluma they called him. Big Bluma. Big Bluma. Big Bluma. Yeah, Shaiam, quite a big Bluma.

He was in a lot of, he played a lot of great roles. The big Blumer for one. And he also directed and co-wrote a film named The Winter Guest. You know that is. What time of year was that set in? Guest season, I imagine. Yeah, guest. I don't know how to look. You actually looking at this?

I'm just looking up the plot here. Yep, it was sent to set. Oh, it doesn't say winter, but it says on a wintery day. Okay, yeah, now we can assume winter. Yeah, but if you say wintery, that's all I... That's all I... Wintery, it says wintery. I say wintery.

Is that different? I'm just picking up on... Oh, I'm mispronouncing that. Wintery. Win-tree. Win-tree. So I mean, if you were, you wouldn't say Win-tree. In winter. Because it'd be like, yeah, just an all-time day. Sometimes on an autumn day that's particularly cold, you get,

oh, bit of a win-tree day. Yeah. Okay, so we don't know. So I'd say it's probably not winter. Lies. That's what I'd be my guess. My guess. That'd be my win-. Galaxy Quest, that's a movie that came up a bit as I was reading about him. And where is that set? I'm not seeing him. What season? What's the objective of the main character? They want some sort of quest or adventure?

If you didn't say quest that would be funny, I guess. Yeah, lead the jokes to me, mate. Yeah, I often do. The J&JP is for Joker. Joke Perkins, Joker Perkins. Jester. Jester. Oh, that's nice.

Thank you. I was already thinking about cutting all of that but that's gonna make it Tricky I don't know and then of course much about galaxy quest. Are you gonna say something better? No I was just saying that I was wondering if you know cuz I haven't seen it but apparently it's it's a really good movie But then probably in in the lady is apart from movies like love actually his biggest best known role was Severus Snape. And that was seen as a villain, but also like it was a real arc, because in the end he

was seen to be... He was a good guy. That spoiler alert of... Spoiler alert. Great, I love when people say that retroactively. Well done. Retroactively. Well, you say it after the alert. Great, I love when people say that retroactively well done retroactively

Well, you say it after the you you give the alert once you've said the spoil spoiler alert Dave's a dickhead Fact that is a fact. Um, he that is yes, that was retroactive. He also he directed and co wrote a little chaos 2015 and he's got he's still got one movie to come out posthumously, posthumously, Alice through the looking glass where he voices Absalom the Caterpillar. The what? Caterpillar. The Caterpillar. What were you, you nailed Absalom, but then stuff to it. Is that right? Absalom the Caterpillar. I think I got lazy after getting through Absalom Cather pillar so that's yet to come out and that will that be his final that looks like

Well, I mean we think it'll be his final. We don't know what he'll do Yeah, and he's been in a lot of stuff Yeah, sorry, no he might there might be other things coming out zombie movies need zombies Dave Well, hey Jesse if you could just be just sort of take the... I don't think I could ever do a recently deceased episode again because you just have not been mature enough for it. Have no respect for the dead. Oh, I bet he pit ceasel's glad he requested this topic. Oh my god. No, I'm sorry. See fuck him Wait the dead or

Okay, but the dead the dead Now I agree with that stay dead dickhead I agree with that if we're talking about like you and me, but I don't I think I think Alan Rickman's probably still dead yeah you're probably right he is probably still dead soaring above us so Alan Rickman died of cancer on January 14th 2016 statement was released by his family confirm that saying the actor and director Alan Rickman has died from cancer at the age of 69 he who was surrounded by family and friends. The pancreatic cancer was only discovered after a minor stroke in 2015 and Rickman only told his closest friends

and family, so it was a big shock to a lot of people because he was still working. Yeah, I was going to say I didn't know he was sick at all. He directed that movie in 2015, wow. Yeah, yeah. And that is his death death as you guys would have noticed especially online led to an outpouring of grief so I got a few of the quotes from some people who knew him well Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling tweeted there are no words to express how shocked and devastated I am to hear of Alan Rickman's death he was a magnificent actor and a wonderful man my thoughts are with Rima and the rest of Alan's family. We have all lost a great talent and they have lost

a part of their hearts. That's lovely but that has to move two tweets. That's two tweets, yeah. I was going to say that was an incredible thing. Because I can't even finish a thought in a tweet. Sorry, yeah, that was two tweets. Okay, well you could have said that at the start but okay. Okay, that was over two tweets in about a five minute span. If that's that. So if she took a couple of moments to collect the same one as well. I appreciate that.

She did the seven in the gun ready to go. No, I appreciate that. That's fine. Emma Thompson, who co-starred with Rickman seven times, said, his capacity to fill you with a look or lift you with a word that intransigence, which made him the great artist he was, his ineffable and cynical wit, the clarity with which he saw most things, including me, and the fact that he never spared me

the view she said. He was above all things a rare and unique human being and we shall not see his like again. Actually, I... It's very nice. Do you dislike Alan Rickman? Well, I'm just trying to figure out where this attitude has come from today. I have no respect. I don't want to be just a... it's a joke, I'm not just a giggling. You know this is going to be one of the podcasts that we put out on the internet. People are going to hear this. Yeah, I know.

Do you have anything to say? No. I miss Alan Wookman every day just like we all do Don't fuck with me on this one Perkins is not on All right fun facts you're gonna finish off with some fun after that those dedication to gonna bring things up Um, I do have respect for the dead. So This is we thought you know maybe bring it back up from the the death to talk about some fun facts things interesting things about Alan

Rickman's last. I'm sorry the fun fact still have to do with Alan Rickman. Yeah yeah puppy's exist. That is fun. I mean it is definitely a fact. It's fun I think it's fun. I'd tell that a party. All right well see if you'll tell these Alan Rickman facts. Yeah, I'd love to know. So in 2008, this was from a BBC report. In 2008, a couple of researchers claimed to have designed a mathematical formula that would help find the perfect human voice. The research was conducted by a linguist Andrew Lynn of Sheffield University and sound engineer Shannon Harris. The study concluded that the ideal

voice for males to be a mixture of Alan Rickman and Jeremy Ion's. No mention of Morgan Freeman. No mention not. Interesting. The pair worked out their formula based on the combination of tone, speed, frequency, words per minute and intonation. They concluded the ideal voice should utter no more than 164 words per minute and pause for 0.48 seconds between sentences. Sentences themselves should fall rather than rise in intonation. You know when you hear about two people and it makes you feel like you're not wasting

your life. Yeah, big time. That makes me feel so pretty. But they also make me feel kind of bad for science because it's like really, that's what we're spending our time on, but we still haven't cured cancer, okay. I found that quite interesting. It's interesting. I mean, it's interesting that it happened, but they are two great voices.

Well, Jeremy Alliance also got a magnificent voice. It's no Rickman, but it's right up there. He was Disney's The Lion King's scar. Ah, yes, of course. Another fun fact, that one definitely was. I'm not even going to look to you just to find out. For the death plunge scene in Die Hard been die hard. Oh, yes. No, it fell off the side of it.

He actually, he didn't have a stupend, he dropped the 20 feet onto an airbag against the green screen. Well, watching an airbag, you can sort of say it's a bit green screen, but it was quite a drop. Yeah, it's like a six meters. Yeah, it's quite a drop. Wow. Apparently, though, the look on his face is actual fear

as he was dropped on account count of two instead of three Oh, so one two BAM BAM Where what? Yeah, and they did that on purpose, apparently. He would have acted the shit with that before. Well, they say they did it on purpose, really that guy just dropped him and then he was like, oh no I was doing it to help Alan's performance. Yeah. Whoop.

I am an artist. So that's a fun fact. Thanks a lot, best boy. Key grip, you're dickhead. Yeah, you got one job. You got one job and it's to have a good key grip. And you dropped me. Still got the keys.

Jingle, Jingle, Jingle. All right, well you done half your job. I'll dock you half a half a day's pay. Jingle, Jingle, Jingle. Here's another fun fact. He is 11 years older than Timothy Spall. 12 years older than Adrian Rawlings. And Gary Oldman, 17 years older than David Thoulos. And 20, that's probably not right.

And 21 years older than Geraldine Somerville. Nevertheless, the character that, nevertheless, the character that the six of them play in the Harry Potter films I meant to be contemporaries and former classmates. Ah play young Good. Well, it's the black hair, you know when he's naturally salt and pepper You go back to black that takes 10 years of easy. Yeah, you know, so All right, you just think it's the color or the wig. Feel like there's really zacting, does it? No, no, that's just hair color. 90% of acting

is hair color, Dave, back me up. Yeah, and if they drop that hair on the two instead of a three count, wow, you lost 15 years. Oscar, you've got an Oscar. On, like, on to his head. Yeah, it's just drop hair on to you. Two, oh my my god. It's on my head I wasn't ready for that. I thought I had one more second without this fucking uncomfortable thing on my head Alright, so that's definitely a fun fact. I enjoyed it. I wasn't sure at first I thought you were just listening other actors and how much older they were than he was I thought he is 146 years older than Jesus Christ. Wow. Amazing.

Wow, how's he still, oh, oh, he's not. Oh, he's not. That's a little bit better than the middle of the tent. Just a couple more. Despite being author JK Rowling's first choice to play Snape and Harry Potter films apparently she actually even envisioned him when she was right in the character. Wow. No, that's cool. Apparently.

That's cool. Apparently. Yep, great. That's really cool. But he was only given the role in the movies after Tim Roth, who was the studio's... After Tim Roth, who was the studio's preferred choice, backed out to star in Planet of the Apes. Good choice, Tim Roth. Yeah, dickhead! Absolutely.

Yeah, that feels like an hour. Career era. Absolutely. I think it's weird like if J.K. Raleigh and he made that mistake. Yeah, totally. Oh, well, I mean name Rickman might have done something even better he might plan it at the age for example something even better than even that that was a series oh it is I wonder if Tim Ross survive in the was it was a sequel called the beginning

of the planet of the beginning of the of the of the it has like three of the in the title so I reckon that is the most shit yeah and there's one called dawn of the planet of the Zinnet title. So our recommend is the most shit movie title. And there's one called Dawn of the Planet of the H. Dawn of the Planet of the Yapes of the Suck my Dig. Yeah. I've never seen any of those sequels and I would never bother. Dawn of the Planet of the H.

I've never spent my time watching a movie called Dawn of the Planet of the H. It's like just a fuck off. Honestly. Yeah, just get about Tim Roth. I would prefer to hang out with a bunch of accountants. Matt, don't get it going. She's already feeling pissy on this episode.

We nearly lasted a whole episode. Sorry. Without you bringing up those gutter people. He couldn't commit. It's funny. Couldn't commit It's funny Couldn't hate on them enough So final fun fact this was this is more of a sweet. I think it was a kind of a. Oh, no, I don't know Rickman was only married once and that was to reamer Horton in 2012 and that I think that was only really discovered when he did an interview with

Germany's build newspaper. When asked about his relationship he replied, we are married. Just recently, it was great because no one was there. After the wedding in New York, we just walked across the Brooklyn Bridge and ate lunch. Just like it. Totally secret. He only told people about it because they asked about it. There was no fanfare or anything like that. Pretty much did it in private. What a way. That's great. What a boss. So I think that's kind of cool, but the probably what heartens the interest there of that was that so that was in 2012

They first met and started dating in 1965. What and they were together the whole time. So Yeah, that's nice For 50 So. Oh, what? Yeah. That's nice. For 50 years. Yeah, just about. Yeah. Wow. So they were together for just over 50 years.

Or maybe about 50 years. All up. Yeah, about 50 years. And we're only married for the last couple of years. Isn't that kind of sweet of that? That is. That is a beautiful Alan Rickman. She was even there during his graphic design days.

Yeah. days. Yeah She would have been supporting when he was like I'm 28. I want to start studying acting now and she was like, okay Yeah, so that's kind of it's real Yeah, that's even Jess's black icy cold heart Rima his his widow was a former Labour Party Councillor. And yes, this is a career politician. And apparently, yeah, Rickman, not another.

No, I'm just saying, what a life these two had. Yeah, and so I guess they, they saw each other go through. Had. Because he's no longer living. Don't say that bit again. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how that, I'm gonna feel about it at another time. No longer living Don't say that bit again Yeah, I don't know I don't know how that I'm gonna feel about it at another time Well, I'm not when I'm editing this I'll be like yeah fuck it. Let's make Jess

Play the villain role Uh-huh as Alan would have wanted it all along. Oh, and now for the Snape twist would have wanted it all along. Oh, and now for the Snape Twist. Secretly a good guy. And I do have respect for him, and I miss him every day. Pete was going out of the love story of someone who sort of makes it in the second half of their life. It's like, yeah, that's great. Because it gives you hope. Yeah, I just find that inspiring, and it's not like,

and also that he didn't come from a career, a house with people in the film industry. Yeah, that worked at a biscuit farm Growing biscuit from seed. Yeah, that's right. That's why Monte Carlo is taste so sweet But you know what I mean like he's a biscuit fun He decided to just to make his own career and then yeah, oh What a legend so good anyway, Anyway, that's my report. I feel like I did not do the great man justice, but I'm sorry for the end of the video. Well, it's hard to sum up.

It's very hard to sum up someone's life in a better now, isn't it? It is. Especially a great life. Yeah, and yeah, I mean, obviously 69 years, jam packed. And yeah, we really just skimmed through it, but yeah, I just I I think he's a fucking legend and Yeah, good on him

Please, let's write could you start wrapping this up day? So well I totally agree. I think he is a legend 34th best actor of all time on my list. Don't ask me to name the first 33. Number one, Sean Connery, yes I am. So that was the end of the episode. Thanks so much Matt. And that one was for Cecil. Thank you Cecil. And also for Joe.

Over the first half of the topic. There you go, two topics in one. And of course, for Alan. And for Alan himself. If you want to us to do one of your, or a reset one of your topics, we always love getting them online at dogoonpodontwitter, dogoonpodatgmail.com.

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