Two In The Think Tank - 230 - The Kelli Peters 'Mystery'

Episode Date: March 20, 2020

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You could start your new career Hi everyone, Jess here. Just jumping in at the start of the episode to give you a little bit of an update because we recorded this episode a couple of weeks in advance because Matt was going up to Brisbane. And so what should be playing here was a little promo for you about our upcoming Melbourne International Comedy Festival shows, which has most of you know by now, has been cancelled, which is hugely unfortunate, it was a really hard call for the Comedy Festival to make, but completely the right one, we fully support it. But it's obviously really disappointing, because we love to perform in Melbourne, and it's you know, the Comedy Festival is one of the best times of the year, so it's really disappointing, and if you did buy tickets to the

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because we love to bring you our live shows very much. So yeah, stay tuned for that, but maybe give it some time just for us to make sure that everybody is healthy and safe. And just finally, I just want to note that again, we did record this two weeks ahead. So if our tone throughout this show is a little too cheerful, just remember that it was before we knew the world was ending. You know, so think back to simpler times before all this really took off. We're going to be recording new episodes over the weekend.

So from next week onwards, it'll be, you know, more tone appropriate, I feel. You'll definitely be able to sense in our voices while we tell stupid stories that we know the world is ending. So look forward to that next week. Okay, the boys never let me do this in-tros and I'm starting to understand why, but anyway, on with the show! Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Wonicky and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Yes!

Oh, it's time that the worm has turned. That's what that's saying, Matt. The worm has turned and I am the worm. Well the worm was just looking at me begging with her eyes. I was just thinking of it. I was like, glad you picked up on what I was telepathically yelling at you. I was just hearing, say eyes, you said first. I'm so glad you picked up on what I was telepathically. Yellowing at you. I was just hearing you're back.

I'm back. I've just got back. Have I? This is the 18th. No, I'm still in Brisbane. Are you? I'm having a great time. I'll be in the sunshine.

It's a nice, you have a good time. Oh, it's so lovely up here. Do you miss us? Yes, every day. It's so good to be catching up with you. Thank you. If I settle at a link. I'd love it if we could do that, then we

could just do it from our home. Oh, well we have like, would it be a video like we'd be on the big screen? I'd prefer not, because if I was at home I'd probably be wearing a pants on. Oh, I think you need to do one. Look at me. I'd prefer you went there actually. You don't mind, if you don't mind that I don't have pants on, then sure, screens away. Well, can you just point the camera above the waist? No. Because whenever we're on tour, you guys get to walk around with nothing on. I wouldn't tell you that you have to put clothes on.

That's true. We don't walk around with nothing on. I do. Dave will have just these jocks on. Well, I'm a teacher. And you'll come out in a tail. Yeah, from the shower. I can see your nips. I love that you're like we don't have we don't

work with nothing on it, except for when we're walking from the shower then yes, then I've got nothing on. All right, I'm gonna hold you to that next time. Don't hold him while he's we're David, please. We're trying to do a serious podcast show here. Yes, come on. All right, well what is this show, Matt? Well, this show is all about learning, laughing, living, and trying to do a serious podcast show here. Yes, come on. Alright, well what is this show, Matt? Well this show is all about learning, laughing, living, and trying to not do much lamenting. It's all about different things from history, it can be anything, and we never know. Well two of the three of us don't ever know.

And this week the two of the three of us is David Long. And the one of the three of us who does know is Jess. So the two of the three gets him, we always get him to. us who does know is Jess. So the two of the three of us can be always get given to you. But he does it every time. So one of the three of us always does research on a topic. And this week Jess has done that research. Dave and I don't know what the topic is.

Where, champing at the bit to find out what it is. I'm chomping at the bit. Is that... It's interchangeable. OK. And to get us on the topic, Jess is going to ask a bit. Is that, I think it's interchangeable. Okay. And to get us on the topic, Jess is going to ask you a question right now that goes like this. What TV show theme do we sing very, very frequently?

And where was it set? Let's see the Frazier or the Nanny in Seattle, the Nanny's in New York, Flashing Creens. What's another one we sing? Friends in New York, Captain Planet? No. Is it Widget the World Watcher? We don't see that planet. No, is it widget the world watcher? I don't know where that is. See from a Y5O. Blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-blu-bl So good Matt think of your favorite TV dad

Sandy Cohen mate. Oh the OC we go into the new port You know far I believe orange County orange County Orange County, buddy. Oh the OC I just wanted I needed to ask a vague question because I didn't want to give anything away Also, I'm not talking about the OC, but it's set in. We don't know. China. Hey, China. What will they see? Bitch. I, it's not funny that that was nowhere near my brain. I've not, I've not seen that show and so long, but you have talked about him recently as your favorite TV dad. I think it's funny.

Isn't it not funny? It is funny. He's also, he's also a good TV dad. He is a great great. Oh Sandy Kahn. He taught me how to smear a bagel Schmeering a bagel Dave He thought one day was like one of the early bonding mom father-son bonding moments that he had with Ryan Where he goes let me show you how to? He's like you doing that bagel or wrong. This is how you smear a bagel with cream cheese. You smear it.

Did he actually say that? I don't know, that's how I remember it. They're gonna script super butts on that shirt. What do you mean? That's like, that's a beautiful father son, no? That's a beautiful moment. Why are you fucking with it, man? You know, there's the big moments for a father and son.

You know, teaching him to ride a bike, teaching him to shave, teaching him to smear. It's the same day. They're very him to shave, teaching him to smear. It's on the same day. Yeah, very similar, the shaving in the smearing. I'm just jealous that I was never taught to smear. I was taught to smear your face. I was taught to shave a bag of fur. Yeah, well, and to smear my face.

Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, it didn't work. I like, it's fine, it's a beard. I can't shave it off. I smear this on. It's made of salmon. Okay, well to get us to set the scene, Alex, it'll... Oh, wow, this is fascinating. I don't think we've ever done a topic like this. We haven't told us anything. Love it.

Well, yeah, I just can't. I'm sitting on the edge of my seat. I can't. I don't want to give anything away. We'll just... But you're going to eventually, right? We get to the end of like two hours of... And that's it. I I'm really saying more of that. What were you talking about? What was it? Oh Inside you all along Andy Cohen

So this is an excerpt she gonna give us the talk. Yeah, I'm gonna teach no else really done that basically Well, no anyway, it doesn't matter This is a I'm gonna start you off with it and except from a book about this topic. Okay No, I was already done that, basically. Well, no. Anyway, it doesn't matter. This is a, I'm gonna start you off with it, and except from a book about this topic. Okay. Southern California is a place of many identities. There's the bustling area of Hollywood

where movie deals are made over $500 lunches. There's Manhattan Beach, where college students both live in commute to nearby colleges or downtown. There are the inner cities where residents live behind barred windows, fighting to survive immense flying bullets and circling helicopters. I don't know why helicopters are deadly. California is a land of haves and have-nots, and this is seen most starkly in the upper-middle class

enclave of Irvine, 45 miles south of Los Angeles. It's like the tale of one city. Irvine, sometimes called the Land of Oz. Oh. It's a city known for its seeming perfection with its pristine clean streets and manicured lawns. The community is known for its excellent schools and the average home price in Irvine is $780,000.

It's a wealthy area. Kelly Peters was a 49-year-old mother who worked as a volunteer director of the Afterschool Classroom Enrichment Program, also known as ACE. Afterschool, sorry, I said Afternoon, Afterschool Classroom Enrichment loved that. What's her name?

Kelly Peters. Okay, Kelly. So that's saying Afterschool, one word there. After school. Classroom enrichment program at Plaza Vista Elementary School. Described by her friends. Plaza Vista. That's so bad. Plaza Vista. Plaza Vista. That's someone who's really trying to sell it. I'm guessing it was a dump at first. They're like, let's jrj it up to Plaza. It's a vista. It's both. It's panicked.

Describe by our friends as an earth mother hippie beach girl who was hard working and goes with the flow. Kelly and Criter job as a mortgage broker. They'll look after her daughter Sydney. Classic hippie mother of the earth job mortgage broker. I know. Let's close this deal. And then peace.

Kelly and her husband Bill had struggled to full pregnancy. When they finally did, Kelly's priorities completely narrowed. And although she tried to go back to work when Sydney started preschool, Bill could see how miserable it was making Kelly. So they decided to live off one wage so that Kelly could spend as much time as with Sydney as possible. Although they

were living in Irvine, a very wealthy area, Kelly had grown up in a middle class family from Reno, Nevada, and had moved. Oh, the biggest little city in the world. That's their tagline. Yeah, right. The biggest little city. Yeah. That's cute. Shit. They had family had moved to the San Gabriel Valley in California, and she was little. Kelly and Bill weren't one of the San Gabriel Valley in California and she was little Kelly and Bill weren't one of the rich couples living in the expensive houses They rented a small apartment, but they liked living in Irvine for the safety and the community and for the good schools for their daughter Sydney Nothing particularly interesting happening here just yet

Okay, what's this building towards Matt? What's she building in there? Okay, what's this building towards Matt? What's she building in there? Kelly had started volunteering at Sydney School and Sydney was in kindergarten. When the teacher had asked if any parents were free to come in and help out, all the kids absolutely loved her and Kelly loved volunteering and helping out around the school. It wasn't long before she was asked to run for the secretary position in the PTA, which isn't really something we have here, the Parent Teacher Association. Do we? No.

I don't know. No, I think so. I mean, sometimes there's a school council. Yeah, I guess maybe it's kind of similar. Maybe parents and friends from Frings of Bell? Is that something? I don't know. Is that just when you just hung out with your parents and friends?

I don't know. I don't know. That's just a phrase I remember. I don't know if that's... From phrase I remember. I don't know if that's... From films, the PTA seems a bit intense. Also, it's kind of funny that you have to run for the position like a political campaign. That's wild. Yeah, that's real weird.

So, yeah, she just liked volunteering and people like, come join the PTA. And she won and she got the position as a secretary. She took her role very seriously. Not that she was serious in nature, but because she'd agreed to do a job, so she just got it done. She was just that kind of person. She just liked helping. And of course, the school community loved her. She was involved in everything and always said yes to helping with anything, even the green to coach her daughter's soccer team, despite not knowing the rules of soccer.

Just throw it, just throw it. Apparently another mug, because there was no coach. So another mug was like, why don't you and I just coach it together? And Kelly kind of thought, well, I mean, she probably knows what she's doing. I'll help out. And the other one had the same thought. So they both like, well, she'll handle it. And I don't know. I'll get the oranges.

But neither was I knew anything. Kelly also helped out with the Dare program, which was Drug Abuse Resistance Education, which obviously aimed to educate kids on the dangers of drugs. That might be important. Okay. It's going to be a true thought dare thing. I love to have that there. Truth. The ACE After School program that Kelly volunteered at offered classes in cooking art, various sports, teachers

and parents volunteered watching the kids during these activities, and Kelly's daughter had taken a real liking to art classes. And in classic Kelly fashion, she just liked being around her daughter. Oh, that is classic Kelly. So Kelly, she's just working all the time at this thing. Yeah, she's just, she's just very involved in this thing community that I call life. Dave. I call it the PTA. Open your eyes. We call it the PTA. I

That's what Christine would do. Squeeze you that third eye. The fuck is Christine? Kelly, Kelly, damn it. She's a hippie mom. H damned earth mother. Yeah, they've been she believe in a third I think and she Kelly She'd also she'd also believe in refinancing your mortgage. Yeah, and she can get you a good deal On February 16th 2011 Kelly was as usual overseeing the ace program and on this day She was keeping an eye on the karate class whose teacher was running late. What did you love at ACE program? Did I? Oh, you think it's obvious.

No, it just looked at it at other like 2011. Not that long ago. Yeah, it was Philly recent. What's going on? No, it was building towards something about now like. And I'm really nervous about saying anything bad because people eventually hear this on YouTube and like, you were joking about that topic? Yeah.

No, we don't know what it is. No, no. I think she's either going to do something bad. Disappear? Some background, something to come out and that she's not as squeaky clean. Or she was always, yeah, she was deep under cover. Or something bad will happen to her,

which is what I'm worried about. Um, well. A school, so she was, so the karate teacher is running a bit like Kelly's just came here on the class. Right. She does not anything about karate. She's still taking the black belts through their emotions. She just, she just, we're in everything.

And she's nailing it. Yeah. She's throwing soccer balls at them. It's crazy. A school administrator came to find Kelly saying a police officer was here to see her. Uh-oh. Kelly's husband Bill was always traveling for work. He was a, uh, worked in the wine industry. He was a wine salesman. So he was always traveling and work. He was a worked in the wine industry was a wine salesman

So he's always traveling and she had this sinking feeling of something had happened so she was really worried So she runs to the front desk of the school where police officer named Charles shava was waiting for a shava amazing great Shava was a 40 years old A sniper on the Irvine police SWAT team and a former NCIS investigated with the Marines. A very experienced officer. Realize this. Now I've become into meat with him. I know.

Well, he might have been like a former because he was just kind of doing his job that day. Just a heads up. I'm here to take you out. I don't want to make it unfair. So when you see a red dot on you run run, but I don't bother. It's a four runs.

Yeah, yeah. It's a real Anthony Denoso. He assured Kelly that it wasn't about her husband and he asked her to come with him out into the school parking lot. Earlier that day at 1.15 PM, a caller had been made to the police about someone driving erratically in the school car park. The caller had said, I was calling because my daughter is a student at Plaza Vistula Elementary School,

and I'm concerned one of the parent volunteers may be under the influence or using drugs. I just had to go over to the school and I saw the car driving very erratically. The caller said he had seen drugs in the car, and he knew the name of the driver, Kelly. He knew the type of car which was a PT cruiser and he even knew the license plate and what was written on the frame which says only for the groovy. Wow that's so specific. That is, yeah, the license plate's plenty mate. Yeah, but also the frame says this and I saw drugs and there's only a quarter of a tank

left in the engine so I don't need to feel it pretty soon. You know what those pity cruises are like, they're all guzzlers. Oh yeah. Feel something on those, no good. Anyway, I gotta go. Love anonymous. He loved anonymous. He's being set up. He loved anonymous.

She's being set up. So as they walked out to Kelly's car, Officer Shaeber told her about the call. She said it was impossible. She had already parked and was inside when the call had been made at 115. He asked if she had anything in the car she shouldn't have and she said no. He asked if he could search the car and she said of course. It didn't take him long to find, sticking out of the patch behind the driver's seat, a bag of marijuana with a pipe in it and two small bags of pills. As he pulled the drugs out and put them on the hood of the car, Kelly begged him to put them away. Her daughter

would be at any minute and other parents were looking at them. She said the drugs weren't hers, they must have been planted and that sometimes she forgot to lock her car. Shave interviewed staff members and discovered that Kelly had been telling the truth. They confirmed that she'd arrived around 12.40pm, meeting the caller claiming to have seen her at 115, was 35 minutes late, a gap in the timeline that he thought was a bit puzzling. It's guess another call. Oh, actually, I mean, I mean, and then happened about 36 minutes earlier than what I said

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People typically hid their drugs in the glove box or under the car seat. Damn it. She's gonna put in the glove box. And for some reason, he didn't know why. Pot smokers didn't typically keep their pipes inside the stash bag itself. Fuck.

It's like, it's so weird. Because if that was like an inexperienced cop, they'd be like, well, I found drugs. That's pretty. Yeah. Got it. But he was like, no, that doesn't add up. Yeah. In my experience, this never happened. Yeah. Why would it be a city out like that? And why would they put the pipe in the bag? Oh, so she's lucky at this point. She's very lucky. He decided to look into it further. So he asked Kelly if he could search her apartment. She reluctantly agreed, concerned that if someone had planted drugs in her car, then they could have possibly also planted stuff in her house.

She didn't know. After a thorough search of the house, Shavea said he was not going to be taking Kelly, Peters, into the police station. She wasn't totally off the hook yet, and the forensic team would be coming around for DNA samples. If her DNA was found on the drugs found in a car, then she'd be arrested. He asked Kelly, if the drugs aren't yours, and how did they get in your car? And Kelly replied, I have an enemy.

Oh. Oh. I wonder, like, it feels like even if her DNA's on there, it was in her car. Her DNA's going to be in the car. Other her DNA would be on those just from being in her car. Yeah, like she wouldn't have like survived. She would side the car. Yeah, I was wondering. So yeah, exactly, yep.

So exactly one year earlier, to the day, Kelly was rounding up all the kids after a tennis class as part of her duties as the volunteer director of this ACE After School program. Every day she'd lead the kids in through the back door of the building to make their parents who were waiting out the front. After the kids had been collected, she went to the cooking class,

which always ran later than the other classes and chatted to some of the kids about what, they were cooking. She'd sample the food, she'd pretend it was amazing. Even if it wasn't good, she'd be like, y'all, I need to be the bathroom. I did it, yeah. Oh, God.

God, get it out. Oh, my God. Dear, call that salt. Dear, call that salt. The kids were making salt. Bath salts. It was a drug lab. I would tell you when I did a food tech, which is what we called the cooking class.

When I was in year eight, I was terrible chef still am. I got to an end of everything when I realized I hadn't cooked the bacon. It meant to be like a breaded thing with bacon and then tomato and stuff on the top of it. So I just hid the raw bacon and put the tomato over the top of it. I just put it in there so that would eat raw bacon. No one had to eat it. The teachers had to assess what it looks like. Because it's putting 24 different meals.

It's not what the greatest Chinese bake off. Yeah, you know, all this bacon has got different meals? Of course. It's not like the greatest show in Bake Off. Yeah, I know, I know, this bake and I've got to make different crunches. It's so crunchy. And then I, yeah, I got a good mark on the end of everyone's eating them. They're like, why aren't you eating yours? I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna put mine in the bin.

Yeah, I'm good, thanks. I've cooked it. Were you busted? No, I never, no, no, no, no. I didn't notice it. Not until now. No, Mrs. Fielding. We've got Mrs. Fielding.

She's just outside this door. Oh, no, she was stern then, she's just outside this door. No, she was stern then, she's even stern and an- This whole podcast has been an elaborate ruse to catch you in that light! I do have an enemy. She knew. Who's the enemy? We're about to find out, it's the same one as Kelly. Oh wow, okay, that's probably not one that you want to have actually.

I'm on her side. So yeah, she would go collect the kids, take them out to the front of the building. So while she was just hanging out in the cooking class, another volunteer came to find her, saying that a parent needed to talk to her, which wasn't out of the ordinary. So she was like, yep, cool. So she goes back out to the front doors

to find a woman pacing anxiously. This woman was Jill Easter, who's six-year-old Stanton, who we will call Layton, was standing next to her. Did you choose that name? I did not. Why are we calling him that? Is that his name? It's in the book that Kelly has written, co-written, they refer to him as Layton, so I'm not saying anything. She said name to punish the child. I don't think so. She hates him so much. You got him waiting. Child is not to be blamed. So yeah, she's standing there with her son, who's a six. She said her son had been left outside briefly, waiting at the locked back door for someone to let him in.

The tennis coach had found him and walked him to the front desk. Jill said her son seemed upset and demanded to know what had happened. Kelly noticed that Clayton didn't appear to be upset at all, but was understanding about Jill's concern for her son. So she said she didn't know exactly why, but she explained that sometimes the kids like to stay back and help pack up, perhaps that's what had happened. And why the tennis coach had led Layton into the building afterwards. Initially, Jill seemed satisfied with that answer and said, yep, that's fine. No problem. I'm not accusing you of anything. I just wanted to know what happened. Kelly was like, okay, well, no one thought you're accusing me of anything because that would be weird. Yeah, that's a strange accusation.

Some of you may be an enemy might do. So, Jill left and went back to the cooking class and then you'd be interrupt. Kelly went back to the cooking class. I only need to be interrupted again by the volunteer saying Jill was back. This happened a couple of times, sort of back and forth. This time, Jill said, I'm having a problem with why Layton was brought up by the volunteer saying Jill was back. This happened a couple of times, sort of back and forth. This time Jill said, I'm having a problem with why Layton was brought up by the tennis coach. And she kept making comments like this, eventually insinuating that the tennis coach

had been inappropriate with their son. It's no base, a baseless claim, but she's, and she's fixated on it. She said her son had been standing outside alone, crying for 20 minutes. Kelly explained that that didn't sound right. Class ended at 230. Kelly waited for the kids to line up until 235.

And the tennis coach has to leave by 240 to get to his next class on time, so Layton could have only been waiting for maybe five minutes. Kelly explained that the boy had been slow to line up, that he tended to take his time, and it wasn't unusual. A lot of the kids were sort of pretty casual about it. This conversation went on for ages and when Kelly finally walked away from Jill, she heard Jill say, how do you sleep at night? And then yell, I'll get you.

Wait, what's happening? Jill, what are you talking about? Wait, I'm so confused now. So why it feels like she's... Didn't know it'd be for the tennis coach? Yeah, but now because Kelly's not taking, not doing anything about it. Yeah.

And Kelly should, because she's in the PTA. And she's like the volunteer director of this after school program. Wow. So she's saying... It's gonna get her for this. Oh yeah. That's the, It's going to get her for this. Oh, yeah. That's the latest week of night.

That's the latest week of night. I'll get you. Yeah, right. But the kid, this whole time, not upset. So he's late and he's a tennis player. That's why they've called him late. Because the greatest shine tennis player late. Of course.

That's the only late, now they've ever come across. Little late, it's great, no. Little late. Little late. Little late. Only Layton, it's great name. Little Layton. Little Layton. I only with little at the top. Yeah, she's reponaming. Little Layton.

Little Layton. Little Layton. It seems weird at the more you say it. Little Layton. And for some reason there's a double L there. Yeah. Little Layton. Little Layton.

Little Layton. Little Layton. Little Layton. So a little bit about this woman, Jill E. Stuff. Jill was an attorney, a graduate of Berkeley Law, a fact she displayed on her car license plate. Because that's pretty hard. That's a prestigious place right there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And is Jill, that's her real name? Yes. Because I don't want to talk too disparaging about this lady in case she destroys my life as well. Exactly, yeah. Now there's going to be a lot of alleged loose through this because she definitely does feel like

someone who would go after you. Anyway, let her to just allegedly. Allegedly yes. So Jill had quit her practice to become a stay at home mom in Irvine and by appearances her daily routine was unexceptional played at to the community pool sushi with girlfriends hair salon starbucks yoga. Holy shit, she sounds and by appearances her daily routine was unexceptional. Play date to the community pool, sushi with girlfriends, hair salon, Starbucks yoga.

Holy shit, she sounds like a part from Starbucks named ordinary coffee. That sounds like a great such a good day. That sounds like a montage of someone having fun. I also don't know why Starbucks is bad coffee, but I know that I should say that it is, because I've had one and it's fine, but people say it's awful.

And I don't want to sound like a, like I, you've told me it's bad. Don't don't mean, but yeah, it's pretty shit. But also, we're Melbourne fucking snobs. What, you said we there? I'm a Melbourne snob. Thank you, I don't drink the filthy stuff. I'm not a slave to the bean. I for one bow down to my bean overlords.

I've haven't had a bean juice in a little while. Why not? Why would you deprive yourself of the best thing that happens in my day? I just need to find the right time to have it to harness that power. Hey, it's morning not that that's the usual time. Yeah, but I just I haven't never get around to doing it at the, you know, I don't have so little energy you can't even get them. Yeah extra. I think you need the coffee Oh Have a coffee then you'll have energy to get a coffee. Okay Two coffees two coffees please don't you know how I do it two coffees Um her husband his name was Kent

Worked a 60-hour workweek as a, one of Orange County's biggest law firms. Okay, this is Jill and Kent. Jill and Kent. Jill and Kent. Easter. Power couple. The day after the confrontation, as we'll call it, Jill is to complain that her son had been crying hysterically after being locked out of the school building for 19 minutes.

She wanted Kelly gone. So this is what Jill wrote to the school official. She said, she told me that she blames my son because he's slow and often gets left behind because it's hard to wait for him. For the record, my son is very intelligent, mature and athletic and is successfully participated in many ace classes. He's receiving good grades and has earned many awards this year. He's not mentally or physically slow by any standard. Oh, yeah. But the way you told him before, Kelly wasn't saying that he was slow.

He was just like mucking around, you know, like a better kid. And she said it was other kids too. It's like, oh, it's not just this kid slow. This is a common thing for six-year-old. Yep. Her own daughter does it sometimes, doodles. Or yeah, they stay back and help pack up. So the district ace director in her own reports at the incident wrote that she'd

interviewed the coach as well as the easter's and concluded that nothing happened to the boy who had been left outside for closer to five to eight minutes. But Jill wasn't having it. Still a weird amount of time for a kid to be left outside maybe. Yeah, but I mean, you think they'd have security cameras or something? Yeah, I could figure that out. So the very next day, Jill's outside the school handing out flyers, demanding Kelly Peters removed from the ACE program and the school community. Is this her full time job, Kelly?

Oh, she's a volunteer. Right. Yeah, no, yeah, you're right. I should lose this volunteer position. Yeah. Oh, she loved it. She loves it. Yeah, it's a shame. That's a shame because it's like, oh, that she's going to make it hell. You can feel that's coming. Yeah. Oh, you can. And she does. Jill can play into the principal to school officials, the police. Every time she didn't get the answer, she wanted, she just went to someone else and demanded action. She stopped handing out the flyers and just started hanging around the school at pickup time, talking to other parents. She's a creep! She's the creepy one! No, it's allegedly.

If this story is true, what I'm saying, if these facts are true, then that is a creepy person. Right. Talking to parents. No, someone who, if you're constantly hanging out, hanging out posters, like always outside the school, yeah, that's, that's, that's strange behavior. Yeah, it is strange behavior. But now she's also adding to a story,

saying that Kelly had purposely locked her son out of the building and laid a drag to him outside, bloodying his knuckles. Oh, drag, what, how do you, how's that? Draining by the feet. Yeah, somehow. She demanded that the Irvine police look into it. They did.

There had been no crime. She requested a restraining order claiming that Kelly was harassing and stalking myself and my six-year-old son and had threatened to kill her, the court threw it out. While many people, including all authorities, believed Kelly was innocent, she still had to deal with the negative attention

she was receiving around the school. She'd walk through the hallways and get looks from other parents. She even noticed dropping enrollments in the after-school program. It ruined the reputation of the school program or she was just teaching kids art and sport. Oh, this is a real downer.

This went on for at least six months. Then, Jules has been camped filed a civil suit against Kelly Peters, claiming his son had been victim of false imprisonment and intentional inflection of emotional distress. He'd suffered extreme and severe mental anguish, and the acts of the defendant Peters alleged above were willful,

wanton malicious and oppressive, and justify the award of exemplary and punitive damages. The Easter's eventually dropped the suit, and as a result of their complaints, the school required a head count before children were released from the after-school program, so the school changed a few of their procedures. That sounds good.

Yeah, okay, if something's going to be coming from this, yeah. The Easter's got a refund on their ace tuition. So those after school programs got a refund on it. Otherwise, the power couple kind of lost. The school stood by Kelly. In an early 2011, she was elected president of the PTA. It seemed like it was all behind them. And Kelly was able to get on with things normally. However, in her book, Kelly talks about meeting a woman at the park, she was out walking her dog and the woman said she's a dog sitter and gave her her card saying that she could come look after the dog at Kelly's apartment. And when she ran into the same woman a few days later,

Kelly freaked out, called the police. It later transpired that the woman was a private detective hired by the Easter's to get information, which is why she was so persistent about getting into Kelly's house. So why did Kelly precat when she saw her? She saw her, she'd seen her a couple of times, like she's, she met her the first time and was like, she's a bit full on and then saw her a couple of days later and she was like, hi, remember me? Like she's really right, right, right. It's not very good at being the private part of the product. Yeah, she wasn't. Is she wearing a different outfit?

No, she's not. Yeah, just the donut salesman. Would you like to buy one of my fantastic donuts? I can donuts from your house. Yeah, fantastic, and. What do you live? What's your dress? Mm.

Where's the kid from today? He's a bit of a specky and a- I'll just drop the donuts around right now. Yeah, I can just put them right in your oven. And a- Yeah, if I was to hide dogs in your house, we would have to do it. I'm so a bit of a... I'll just drop the donuts around right now. Yeah, I can just put them right in your oven. Or maybe a kid's donut. If I was to hide dogs in your house, what would I do? I'm said too much.

What? Sorry. So what? Oh, I've got to go. Donuts are in my oven. I just remembered the donuts are in my oven. So what, I mean, so you've got most of this story you've got from the Kelly's book. I read Kelly's book and also an article, you can barely even call it an article. It says, enormous, amazing piece for the LA Times written by Christopher Goffard.

And I'll link it, it's amazing. I wonder, I wonder, is there a Jill version of a band? Yeah, because it sounds like either Jill is absolutely overreacting over nothing or maybe something did happen, I don't know. Why, why also do you behave like this? It's a Jill intent. It's using, it sounds like one of those daytime suspense where someone's slowly trying to take

and then they try and replace you or something. Yeah. You know, those, they normally load budget and just a hard watch. Yeah. Because they make you feel anxious the whole way through your purpose. I'm sorry if that you're having a similar feeling with this. No, I mean, I'm absolutely wrapped in the story. Yeah, so this is very different because the production value is much higher.

And this, thank you so much. And the acting is way better. Thank you. I'm, thank you so much. And the acting is way better. Thank you. I'm doing the voices. Yeah. Can we start calling Jill and what's her husband's name? Kent. Can we start calling Jill and Kent Easter? Jeast her and Kester. Absolutely. Thank you. Oh, man. I don't think I've ever loved you more. Great to see you, Keester. Please stop calling me Keester.

Stop calling me Keester. No worries, Keester. So anyway, so this brings us back to the drugs in her car, which was a year after the first time, like that big confrontation. And so it's such an embarrassing attempt at planning drugs because that a cop is like, well, this is not right. It comes like, I don't know about this. Oh, this is embarrassing.

If the story of wasted your time, Kelly, it's clearly like the people putting the drugs in aren't. They don't know drugs either. Yeah. So they just didn't know what to do It's sort of it's almost adorable, but also like so full on it So it's kind of the guy yeah the car. Um, it's also got a bumper sticker that says drug user Dunno what that means that was so that would they that was someone they've you know in on it with them No, they just got the timing wrong maybe if they got that timing right it wouldn't mean and this is a bit

But she if it is her and her husband who are both high powered lawyers, have they not come across proper crime before? Yeah. It sounds like someone who runs, who's a very like uptight, like, I don't know, very religious person who doesn't have any knowledge of the criminal world whatsoever. Oh, yes, people use drugs. Oh, a drug pipe, put the drug pipe in them with the drugs. Hills and marijuana. Yeah.

I can't succumb, though. White, but why I just don't understand why they've become so obsessed with it. drug pipe with the drug piping with the drugs. Hills and Marrow. I have to come both. But why I just don't understand why they've become so obsessed with it. Yeah, a great question. So obviously they're thinking this Kelly person is the devil in their minds to make them act like this. So it feels like they have sort of either, yeah, the way you understand it is different or they've sort of, they grip on what has actually happened as shifted often to fantasy land.

Yeah, and it could be a bit of column, a bit of probably mostly column B. So it brings us back to the drugs in the car. So Detective Mark Andriotsi was looking into the case of the drugs being found in this woman's car. To him, Kelly seemed genuinely frightened and doubted that she was guilty. From that LA Times article again, she could... She couldn't be positive that the easters were behind the drugs in her car.

She told police there was another possibility. A 43-year-old dad who lived across the street from the school and had a reputation for bizarre behaviour. Police knew him well. They'd responded to complaints about him wandering onto campus without permission, ranting at school staff, heckling the crossing guard, and videotaping the crosswalk as kids moved through it. At least once, he'd shown up in a Batman costume, masked and caped to pick up his son.

So there's also just an embarrassing day. The biggest crime of all. What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? I don't have any on the edge of the kids. Maybe they'll be like, this is sick. Oh, your dad's butt man.

Yeah, it would be so sick and then so modified. Very quickly, one summer holiday is going to start. So quick. How was your brother? I really lost you. No, dad. And now they're getting eggs thrown. He made parents nervous.

Peter's had felt sorry for him. Kelly felt sorry for him. But now she recalled how he'd wanted her PTA job, how he'd even asked her for copies of the bylaws. Maybe he'd studied them and knew that drug possession would disqualify her from her position. He would like usurp her as a new PTA king. She just got potentially two enemies. This person who sounds like she's very lovely

and couldn't do, she's volunteer, I mean, it's a volunteer job. Oh no. Who's fighting so hard for that? I'm so weird. I feel so like such a piece of shit. Why are you doing something for no money? You as soon as someone made the job a little bit hard,

you were like, okay, I'll go, bye. Oh great, I don't wanna do this, well, fine, fine, fine. Fine, fine, I'll go, bye. Oh great, I don't want to do this. Well, fun, fun, fun. Fun, fun, fun, fun. No, that's true. I know I forget that, you know, I do plenty of things that don't get paid that I'm passionate about. So obviously I get it, but it just sort of feels like now that I know that something bad

enough has happened, that you're telling me about it on a podcast, which is, you know, the sign that something's gone down. It was being talked about it on a podcast. That just makes me think, I don't think this job is worth it. But who in there, right now, I think they're going to get elected to the PTA after they've been, then people know they film kids on a crosswalk. How does he get away with that? I have no idea. So he lives across the road.

No way you're being elected mate. Yeah. No way. Who knows what he's intentions were. Yeah regardless it's not a good look No, and also you should have just that tiny little bit you should have just a little bit of self awareness So that seems a bit weird. I'm assuming it's it's him filming his kid probably probably But they'd like to all the other parents in a monster They'd be like this is weird bro. Yeah totally guys I'm just filming and seen from a new Batman film. I'm Batman. I'm Batman. I want to be PTA

In my mind he's constantly dressed as Batman. Yeah Imagine Batman on the toilet. That'd be a real nightmare Is it pants? Was it all one suit or one? How do you get out of it? I surely took a little flat. Do you ever see his legs? Yeah, what do you get out of it? I surely took a little flap. Do you ever see his legs? Yeah. Yeah, what do you mean? What do you mean? Do you see his legs? I can picture the tree flag. Yeah.

I reckon he's got a flap. Yeah, like a butterfly. A butterfly. A butterfly. A butterfly. A butterfly. A butterfly. A butterfly.

A butterfly. A butterfly. A butterfly. A butterfly. A butterfly. A butterfly. A butterfly. A butterfly. A butterfly. A butterfly. gizmo that are just like turn it into gold or something. Yeah, probably. That's how we so rich. Yeah, I tend to be a shit in the gold.

Anyway, so yeah, the cops were well aware of this guy because they'd been sort of complaints about him in the past. The code for, so, okay, cops had an informal phrase for such people who did not quite meet the requirements of a 5150, the code for an involuntary psychiatric hold. They are 51 to 49 and a half, vexing but hard to do anything about.

So it's like he's not quite. He's an odd ball, but you can't lock him up. Exactly. If he was Richard, call him. Accentric. Accentric, I'll blank it on that. You call him Bruce Wayne. Yeah, that's right.

At the police department, though, some cops thought what's gotta be him. It's probably this guy. He's up to something. Androcy played the call that had been made to the police. When the dispatcher asked for his name, the caller had said VJ Chandaruscus and spelled it out. It's spelled C-H-A-N-D-R-A-S-C-H-H-C-K-H-R.

C-K-H-R. So no foul, but in the last list. No, and they'd spelled it out that way. The caller had claimed to have a daughter at Plaza Vista, but the school had nobody by that name, probably because it's a made-up name. He listened to it again and again, he's listening to this call and he noticed that the caller started nervously and volunteered more information than a typical caller did as if it was following a script. He also noticed that while the caller started off speaking in standard American English, he inexplicably acquired an Indian accent midway through the conversation. Oh no! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No VJ chandras, chandras, koo. I like the name VJ.

It was one of my favorite golfers of the kid, VJ Sing, or I mean, for Jay-Jilfer. And this guy has decided that if your name is VJ, you have to have an Indian accent. Right. So he's sort of gone into that for some reason. Oh my God. Some of his colleagues at the police believed

that it was Batman. I believed it was Batman trying to disguise his voice. I thought it was Hank as a warrior. There was, yeah, in the background of the call, they could hear bats flapping about. I thought, hmm. And Michael Cain sang, your dinner must be white. Oh, sorry. I didn't see you on the phone.

I'll leave it over here, muster, Wade. Oh, it's me, Vijay. So they traced the call as well, and it had been placed from a wall mounted phone in the ground floor business office at the island hotel, which is an elegant, high-rise resort in Newport Beach. And is that a long way away? So like, they're saying I just saw this.

It's clearly one of the cars parked and two that they weren't in the car park. Yeah, I mean the call, the call was definitely bogus by this point. Yeah. Because they're not even in the car park. They're not in the vicinity. Right, but it's had a wealthy hotel. Yes, the business office at a hotel. Oh, does Batman work there? Detective Matt McLaughlin, amazing name,

went to the hotel basement to study surveillance footage. On the screen, people moved in and out of the lobby. He was looking for the, they're calling him the PTA rival. So they're looking for Batman. He was a five foot eight Asian man in his early 40s. There was no sign of him. There was, however, a tall, lanky figure he didn't recognize. A man in a dark suit who walked calmly towards

the business center just before the call. Dark suit with a helmet. We have the lails. Batman. When shown the footage, the school principal said, hmm, it looks like Cantista. Keister. Keister. We got you. Got you, Keister. When shown the footage, the school principal said, Hmm, it looks like Cantaster. Keister.

Keister. We gotcha. Gotcha Keister. It's the case that's a tall man, Mr. Keister. So, um, Andrea Ozzi, Andrea Ozzi, the detective began following the Easter, learning the habits. Asking them, ah, do you have any dogs?

You need a walk door. Ha ha ha. Oh, don't ask you need a walk door. You need to take them to the door. What's up? Can I come to your house? I'm a handyman We need a little more. Are you a policing uniform? Don't ask questions. Don't worry about it. That's not your business They learned that Keester's office was just a few hundred meters from the island hotel They discovered that the couple's home In Irvine was about a mile from Kelly's apartment

They discovered that Keester carried a blackberry when his wife Jill, Jester, Jester. Yeah, it's from Jester. Had an iPhone and that between 2.37 AM and 4.21 AM on February 16th, early of the day the drugs turned up in Kelly's car. Those two phones had exchanged 15 text messages between 2.37 and and 421 AM.

Oh, Oscar, I'm like, well, husband and wife are probably, you know, that could be pretty normal, but yeah, that's pretty late. Oh, 15 texts, I'm sending that within 15 minutes. Most of them, where are you? Where are you? Who is she? Who is she?

That's between 9 AM and 10 AM. And he goes, I'm at work. I said, oh, yes. Oh, sorry sorry. Have a great day. See you later. Thank you. One o'clock, I'm like, where are you? Who is she? No, Jess, I'm still at work. I see you. Okay, go play the video.

What time do you finish just so I can stop doing this? Five. Right. Okay. Are you working all day? Is that, and you do that, how many days a week? Five. Five. That feels high. No, it sounds like, what a way to work all day sounds like what a way to make it up here. Yeah, he must be five I want I know it takes a while to get home Anyway, I'm very confused by this whole work thing

So these people the keysters the Easter's are messing each other at a very late hour And also, I mean you're married you live together why are you texting each other on a very late hour. And also, I mean, you're married, you live together, why are you texting each other on a Tuesday, when something's up there? Can you turn off the light? Are you turning off? No, you turn it off. I'm not getting up.

Things are not good at home. So the iPhone had been peeing off the cell phone tower near as to the Easter's home. But the blackberry was peeing off a different tower, the one closest to Kelly's apartment complex, where her PT cruiser had been parked in the outdoor lot. So Keester's phone is peeing off tower near Kelly's house. And now we're trying to make it seem like Kelly was peeing off sometimes.

Over several weeks of following the couple and getting to know their habits, investigators were ready to pounce. Androtzi and his team had debated how to get Kees to the talk. They had to get him alone away from his colleagues and they would be foolish to underestimate his intelligence. But they thought that a man accustomed to winning with his brain might be undone by his faith in its powers. How good is that line?

He's like, he's just so confident that he will outsmart anyone. But also, we at this point think he's the guy who changes accent midway through. This guy is used to winning with his brain. But also, he did a bad accent. How ledgerly. He panicked. So they'd come on gently and they were playing dumb. These police officers that were chatting to him. They decided he didn't know what they knew, so they were just gonna play it dumb. They follow him to work, and as he gets out of the car, they approach and ask a few casual questions.

They ask us here, where have anything that's happened recently at Plaza Vista Elementary? He said his family had some issues last year, but it was all in the past. They'd all moved on, bygones, people bygones. It was fine. Well, that's good enough. Yeah.

So yeah, and that's it. So thanks for... Detective Wayne Brennan told Keyster, he'd been following him and he'd seen him coming out of the dry cleaners. I don't know why that was necessary, but he says, this is such a good line. So there's recordings of all this as well.

And in the LA Times article, there's like snippets of a lot of the recordings. And Wayne Brennan says, you is such a good line. So there's recordings of all this as well. And in the LA Times article, there's like snippets of a lot of the recordings. And Wayne Brennan says, you got to ask yourself as an educated man, why in the heck would I be following you around? Because that's all I do. I work in criminal investigations. All I do is follow people around.

I learn there little habits. So you've got to start asking yourself, why are we standing in front of you talking to you? Whoa, that would've, I'd be like, I'd be to whatever you want. Yeah. Didn't you say that we're going to come on softly? Well, they started soft.

And now they're like, we got you little bully. Um, so they told him to think back about two and a half weeks ago. Was there any reason he would have been out in the small hours of the morning? And he goes, oh, well, now, and then I, I, I go out for diapers if we run out of diapers but most likely no, it would have been in bed. So, I forgot for diapers I'm hungry. I mean, oh god.

Talk on an undone. Go out for diapers. At two o'clock in the morning. Yeah, just let the kids shit itself and learn a lesson. That's how kids learn. What a brutal time and not to find out as well. Yeah, sucks Where you go to the local Diapery, there's probably a 24 hour Diapery around the corner come on right near Kelly's house I mean, I mean who's that this guy So Keister was looking pretty nervous now and when he was nervous he did what the caller had done he began to stutter

pretty nervous now and when he was nervous he did what the caller had done. He began to stutter. Oh, he's starting to think that he's... Softening, you know. A half-hearted one. Oh, which sounds something like this. No. These detectives sound like total badass cowboys by the way. That line is, you can ask yourself.

I know, and they keep saying stuff like that. I've got another one here too. So they're really suss on this guy and they know that they have him trapped. And they say, big brothers always watching. We're absolutely not the smartest guys in the shed, okay? But we can follow the dots from one to the next to the next. They knew, they said, that Kees just phoned and been peeing in the middle of the night near Kelly's apartment. And if there was DNA on the drugs in Kelly's car, they'd find it. And this guy Wayne Brown says again, I'd hope and pray for your sake

that there's a big light going off. Big bell's going off. Knowing what I just told you, is there anything that you'd like to add to your statement to me, whether retracting or adding anything to your statement? And Keese says, I'd like to get a lawyer and Brennan goes,

that's the big boy answer. It's so patronizing it, I love it. Anyway. He says that's the big boy answer. He is a lawyer. I am a lawyer. Yeah, I want to get another lawyer. So they searched his car and they found some diet pills.

I think it's a diet for a stomach. Damn, he's right. I want it to am. It's a receipt. So they found some diet pills and they were in a miniature plastic baggy. I'll think I'd say Dive for a second. Damn it! Damn, who's on it? I want it to AM. Who's the receipt? So they found some diet pills and they were in a miniature plastic baggie. The label said easy-dose pill-

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the GI Bill. Now is the time, my one found in Kelly's car. How was he so sloppy? Yeah, sloppied, allegedly. At the same time as these detectives were searching Kents' car, Kees' car, other officers had arrived at the family home where Gista was to search the house as well. Neither of the easters were arrested that day. The evidence seized included the couple's smart phones and detectives believed their

contents might clinch the case. But the phones were soon locked up inside the chambers of an orange county judge where they would languish as legal argument raged. I'll explain more about that. So, Keester's firm wanted his blackberry back because it held sensitive client information. And the Easter's criminal defense attorney wanted evidence on both phones kept from police citing attorney client and spells or privileges. It was complicated enough to bring a case against two attorneys, even more so when they're

married to each other. So they've got their phones, they probably have so much evidence in it, but they have to fight to be able to access it. Then another detail emerged, literally walking down the street. Detectives were sitting in an unmarked car waiting to approach the Easter house when a man came strolling up the block and spotted them. He took off holding a phone to his ear. Jill Easter emerged from her house in a negligee, then noticed the cops herself and hurried

back inside. Police stopped the man as he pulled away in his pickup truck. His name was Glen Gomez. He drove a fire engine for Los Angeles Fire Department Station House 50 miles north. He was in town to see Jill, who had been having an affair with for two and a half years. Holy shit! What? Chill. Jester. To Jester. Yeah. Glenn's phone records proved that he wasn't in the area or involved in the drug plant. So the police enlisted him to help and got him to wear a wire. Why?

Why? Why is Jester in case her, who are, I mean at least J Gisa, she's up to stuff. Why is she bringing this attention to herself by doing the planting of the drugs that seems so silly or even making a big deal out about any of it? And why is the guy with the Y, why is he agreed to wear a Y? Is there something wrong?

Well, I guess he's a fiery, right? Maybe some sort of a... Well, I mean, he didn't... And he's maybe, he's like, he feels like he's been busted doing something. I don't know, maybe he's feeling guilty and he's... Some people just like to help the cops. I don't know, I like to wear wires.

I'm wearing one right now. Oh, this is a microphone. Ha-ha-ha-ha. So Glenn goes and meets Jill in a park near her house and he asks her pretty loose questions about why police were looking into it. He said, it's probably not a smart thing for us to be like talking right now because of what's going on and stuff.

And Jill accused him of abandoning her. She says, I thought that if I ever had some trouble in my life or sadness that I would have someone to stand beside me and I don't, it's a hard lesson to learn. I mean, you're married. What do you mean you thought you'd have? Yeah, your husband. Kaster. Kaster. I guys willing to allegedly at this stage and what it looks like, plant drugs to take out your enemy. Yeah. And why is he trying to cool it with her if he's wearing a wider get more? Well, well, the way that he's playing it, playing it was

smart. No, no, no, well, I guess so, but like he was also earlier parts of the conversation He was kind of like like 99.99% I think I know who you are, but this is sort of making me doubt that Right. So I think there's actually a genuine pardon him that's like what is going on here? Like is this revealing something to me about you? This person I've been Having in a fair with for two and a half years, and I thought I loved, but am I wrong? Like is there something that you're hiding?

So it feels perhaps relatively genuine from him. Right. So why do you agree to wear a wire and then I'd stop talking to her. It's a great question. Anyway, so then she claims that she doesn't know why the police are investigating her and when you said, well, if you haven't done anything wrong, then you should be fine. She gets really, really angry. Again, this recording is on the LA Times article and you can hear her.

She gets angry and she says, I'm not going to be fine. Do you understand me? Don't just put your head in the sand. This is the moment. This is when I needed someone and you turned your back on me and I will not survive this very dramatic. Whoa But she said I didn't do anything wrong. Yeah, but it's gonna destroy me Okay

Profising yep, so soon after the conversation in the park Glenn the firefighter told police they'd broken up and she went crazy allegedly It's his words. She showed up at his long beach home and told his wife about the affair, brandishing emails and photos. And she detailed the affair in a letter to the dance studio where his wife worked. And it was in his words, cleverly written in third person, as if it was a close friend of Jill's who was writing it. She is Waco! I didn't know what words you were. I had a feeling of the vibe that you were going to say, but I didn't know what word,

and that was fun. So, why she written it about in the third person? Can you explain that to me? As if, so she was sort of pretending to be somebody else, I think. Who's breaking the effort? What like, what? I just wanted to let you know that. That Jill's having an affair.

What she's trying to protect. She's sent it to his wife's work saying like your husband's having an affair with this woman. So she's outing herself. Well, she turned up at the house and showed the wife emails and stuff. That's strange.

So why don't I don't fully understand why the letter two? Yeah. And the third person thing, same strange. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. It does not make sense. In March of 2011, police detective Mark Andrew and Riyotsi called Kelly Peters and said the department now had strong evidence that the drugs had been planted

as she had insisted all along. They didn't want to tell Kelly too much for fear that info could get out and somehow the Easters would find a way to stop it. But what they had found was that Jill Easter's DNA was on the pot pipe and the vikin and pills, though not on the percussive. Kent Easter's DNA was on all of it. Oh Kent.

Kent! Did he know about Jesus' affair? Uh, not sure at this stage. Right. Yeah, interesting. Unfortunately, though, police had to jump through a lot of hoops in order to be able to look into any of the couple's phone history, like I mentioned before. So a separate entity was brought in to sift through and remove anything that fell under client attorney confidentiality, which took an insanely long time, like a year.

So a year passes, the police investigation, including the embarrassing search of his office, had not harmed Kent Easter's career. In fact, his firm had named him an equity partner, cutting him into a share of the profits. What are you doing? So that, so that, so that, so many police officers came to the, came to his office.

Like it was, it was overkill. There was so many cops there and some of his colleagues were arcing up at them and then once the police officer threatened to arrest them, they calmed down a little bit. They were like, okay, you will live your life, whatever. But they were really arked up. But it didn't affect his career. I'm the name of my partner.

A big star. That's the interesting equity partner. That means he would have had to buy anything for I learn anything from the good wife. And that could have, that would have been a chunky sum, hundreds of thousands probably, maybe. If it was the same firm that... But it's had on the good wife. Yeah, but then he becomes like, you know, makes decisions and stuff like that,

and represents the business a lot more. So like the point there is that things are still going along pretty much whatever. Yeah. But Kelly was filled with paranoia and dread every morning she checked her car carefully for drugs. She had to start seeing a therapist. And even at one point the therapist sort of was like, like she Kelly explained to her what had happened.

The drugs have been planted and stuff. And the therapist was like, how did you get away with that? Like as in, why did they, nobody gets away with having drugs in their car. She was saying you got away with it. Yeah, or like how did, why were you not arrested? Well, the answer is that he put the pipe in with them at a while. And then the therapist like, you should have mentioned that obviously that, that's ridiculous. Wow, what kind of, what's this therapist's...

Well, that's it. And then it filled Kelly with more dread that nobody was ever gonna believe her Oh, that sounds like a shit-out therapist. It was awful for the whole family Her daughter Sydney who turned 11 that year refused to sleep alone Fearing she'd be abducted because people had been following them. So it's pretty scary And at recess Kelly would sometimes find her daughter sitting alone or wondering the yard, just talking to herself. But she got some help as well.

And just to clarify, she's fine now. Okay. The daughter. Yes. So, a guy called Christopher Duff, who was a career prosecutor in his early 40s, joined the team in the spring of 2012. He considered all the possibilities. In so many places, he thought it would have gone very differently. Like if it had happened in a different part of California or if the cops hadn't been as experienced as Shave was, it all could have been a very different story. And he also met with Kelly and he believed it and he also knew that a jury would sympathize with her.

Looking over the evidence, the prosecutor decided that he had, he had enough. He, he had their DNA on the pot pipe and paying killers. That's so much evidence. Yeah. None of her DNA I'm guessing. He had no. He had mode even opportunity. He had incriminating smart phone pings. He'd convicted killers on less. So he was like, we've got enough evidence here. That's worrying, but. No. First time I read it. He said that, hello. I've convicted kills for a lot less. Sorry? Sorry, you've what now?

Yeah. Well, when I first read that sentence, where it's like, he decided he had enough. I first read it like, he'd had enough. I've had enough of this. But he just maybe had enough evidence. And I only just realized that halfway through really that sentence, that led just then.

So if that tone was a little off, that's why. I did get your tone at first wrong. I said, man, I got you in a straightaway. Feed had enough. So the easters were at most expecting a warning. Maybe a slap on the wrist if they got caught. That's a lot of drugs, isn't it? Yeah, having drugs and then planning,

and that feels like a multiple crime. Break into a car. And their lawyer said that if anything happened, they'd have plenty of warning and time to have bail money ready, so it would be in an out-quick process. The DA's office would like let them know this is going to happen. They're probably going to come arrest you. They could just have the bail money ready.

Oh, you've arrested us. OK, here's our bail. Goodbye. It's going to be quick and easy. But that wasn't what the Irvine police had in mind. Damn right. So Keister just dropped off two of his kids at a tennis camp when the patrol car pulled him over at a busy intersection in Irvine. They called a tow truck for his toyota camera, handcuffed him and drove him to the county jail in Santa Anna. I can't. He's got a camera. Is that why I'm bothered you? I just read it to him.

I was like, really a camera. So I'm this is not like the good wife at all. He's got a camera. Is that why I followed you? I just read it to him. I was like, really a camera. So this is not like the good wife at all. It's a family car. Yeah. I think it's driving some sort of luxury SUV. I feel like I could almost afford a camera. Matt, I mean, I would say dream big. Yeah.

There's no point. Well, let's say what year? We're talking like I could, 2004. I mean. Two, mate, let's not exaggerate. Okay. Late 90s. 2000. 90. I could 2004. I mean Mate, let's not exaggerate. Okay, light and honey. 2000.

97? You can afford an IDC with camera, yes. Yeah. For sure. So they pulled him over in the camera. They've tied him, they've taken him to the county jail. And he's standing in the intake courtyard when he saw his wife who'd been arrested at their house, arriving at a squad car.

So they've both been arrested. Well, she pulled over in a Ferrari. Is that what's happened? She has a very nice car. Of course she does. I don't know. No, she was at home, Dave. Right, I'm just wondering why he's driving a camera.

There's so many questions here. Those are the questions you focused on. They were fairly quickly released on bail, but their mug shots were everywhere, during a lot of comment on news and social media. Most likely due to, obviously, like the, it's a wealthy couple and an incredibly petty part of it. I mean, they drive to the camera. Yeah, the bigger scandal is that his

camera was, he's part of a law firm that kicked him out, not because he off the crime, but because he was seen in a toy on a camera. Yeah, the boss walks down to the parking garage one day. So who the fuck, who's car is this? In the reserve spot? Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Camry! Kent, come here. Some poor person's driven a camera into your spot. Honestly, that's my car. What?

You're fired. Get out. I wouldn't, I imagine Americans wouldn't say Toyota cameras. They call them like Toyota, Toyota, Camrise. Oh boy. How was I say it? It's not call them like Toyota Camry's? Oh boy. How was they saying? That doesn't sound right either though. They probably just Camry. They say Toyota.

They say Toyota. Yeah, not Toyota. Whatever you just can't. Camry. Camry. Camry. Camry. I bet they say Camry.

Yeah, I'm sure they say Camry. Americans don't tweet. I didn't let him have it. Yeah, that good one. Sorry. Sorry, I said't tweet. I didn't let him have it. Yeah, Matt, good one. Sorry, sorry, I said camera. A regan, oh. A regan, oh. So DNA from G-STER and Keester had turned up on the drugs,

but the weight of the evidence was stronger against Keester. It was Keester who'd been captured on tape making a phony call to the police, implicating Kelly. And it was Keester's blackberry that had been pinging near Kelly's car when the drugs were planted. But it was Jester who took the blame for planting the drugs in a declaration filed with the court and quickly sealed. It wasn't a confession in the normal sense, it couldn't be used against her. What?

I did it, but you can't tell me I did it. It was all part of this ingenious defense motion to try the Easter separately. So her admission of guilt provided a strong legal basis for trying the trialing them separately, which meant they couldn't testify against each other. Right, because it's about stuff. Exactly. So Keester would naturally wish to put her on the stand in his own defense, but couldn't legally do so if they were put on trial together. Oh, sorry, he could if the trials were severed.

So if they're put on trial together, then they can't testify against each other, but if they're separate, they are, and then he can... Oh, I'll just keep reading and it will make sense. Yeah, so I found in the good wife that Spousal, what is it called? Spousal, or is it called spousal privilege or something is yeah, that was tricky and We're just meant that you didn't have to you couldn't make a spoused dog their partner in yeah I'm always lines. So they're trying to mess with that somewhere

So if the judge decided to split the trials it was easy to envision Calamity for the state's case. The defense would push to have Jillice to try it first. Juris wouldn't hear her confession, which she'd already made, and the relatively thin evidence against her, coupled with the skill of her attorney, Paul Meyer, would give her a plausible chance at a quiddle. Then she would take the stand at her husband's trial, immune from the threat of jail herself, if she could testify credibly that she'd planted the drugs, he would go free, game over.

Oh, right, because she's like, I've already been found, not guilty. Yeah, I did it. I did it. Yeah, and then they... That feels like a real good system. Right, yeah. Yeah, that's justice being done, no doubt.

These are two like attorneys playing the game. So it was a fasting strategy, equal part, cold logic and deterring, and anyway it doesn't matter. I'll start this again. So it was a strategy on their part, but first the judge had to find Jill Easter's confession believable. And he seemed to have doubts. Motion denied, the Easter's would have to stand trial together. Ah, that's good. So that's good news for Kelly, or the Anastate. So Jill Easter would agree to plead guilty to a felony count of false imprisonment by fraud

or deceit. False imprisonment. Yeah, where's that come in? Because she's framing it? Oh, she's counters. Jill would have great a plead guilty to a felony count of false imprisonment by fraud or deceit. Because you just because you framed someone trying to get them in prison? This would spare her the humiliation of sitting through a trial would also allow her to testify for her husband, who she depended on financially. So she needed him to not go to jail.

The sentence to begin after a tense trial. So she basically pleaded guilty, and she was sentenced to 120 days jail in county jail. She served less than half plus 100 hours at a super kitchen, just community service. Two months jail. She was also despised and her law degree was now useless. But you were saying she was non-practicing? Yeah, she left to be a stay-at-home mum. That's a the biggest punishment,

but maybe not effectively for her. And it's weird too that her sentence only did her time after her husband's trial. Right. Maybe it's so that somebody's looking after the kids. Oh yeah. Yeah, she's, they've got kids. Three of them. Oh.

So now, November of 2013, and Kent's trial began. His team was headed by Thomas Bynart, Jr., one of the top prosecutors in the state. They had an interesting strategy. Kent had already failed to avoid getting arrested. He had lost his job and he was going to trial anyway. So the only card he had left to play was that he was a weak man, victim to his overbearing and intimidating wife. So he's going to turn, just in the case anyway, turn it on to Jill.

Yes. Hmm. So this is what the lawyer told Juris, there's well, cancer, very good human being. He didn't have a backbone when it came to his wife. She wore the pants and the family, she pushed him around. Gross. It was all Jill's fault and she had forced him into helping. He knew that his wife had been unfaithful to him often on for years and he said, I felt that it was my job to be a husband to stay married. Nobody in our family had ever gotten divorced. Oh.

And he also had an explanation for why his phone was peeing off the tower close to Kelly's house. And he said, oh, we swapped phones. Kelly had my phone. Oh, yeah. Jill had his phone, right? Oh, Jill had his phone. Sorry, I think Kelly.

We swapped phones. I said too much. I said too much. He'd been at home sleeping, saw from a recent surgery, doesn't say what surgery, she just had surgery. So it definitely couldn't have been me because I just had surgery.

She'd left her iPhone in the bedroom to charge and taken his blackberry. He thought she was downstairs, tending to their sick daughter, but unbeknownst to him, she'd slipped out to plant the drugs. I mean, I don't know why she would take your phone to go downstairs to look after your daughter.

So that doesn't seem. Yeah. But they sent each other a bunch of messages too. And he's also... Yeah, exactly. Playing a dumb, but he also made the call. But he also said that he knew she'd been having an affair. And one of the prosecutors was like,

so you know you are having an affair and she's left her phone unattended just sitting right next to you and you're not looking at your phone. He's like, oh no, they're like, really? You're not snooping and I was like, I don't know if that, okay, yeah, all right. So he's at work later that day and she called him to say she'd seen Kelly popping pills and driving like a mad woman. She insisted that he call the police and he reluctantly agreed, afraid she would again belittle him as a failure if he didn't comply. Oh, how embarrassing for him to be pretending that this is...

I know. So this is pretending he's not... I mean... We assume. Well, it's just like it's a strategy for the trial. Yeah. How much of it, I mean, yeah, I don't know. Maybe she was a pretty intense person or, yeah.

But you don't know if he actually was in on the plan the whole way, or if maybe she did go, hey, do this. Well, there's like evidence later. Which is because he was on all the drugs. Yeah. So how do you explain that? No, it sounds like it's bullshit. No, both doing it together.

So the charge was one count of false imprisonment by Frodo de Seat. The same that Jill was charged with. The jury couldn't reach a verdict. 11 wanted to convict. One woman felt sorry for him. So they started again, almost a couldn't reach a verdict. 11 wanted to convict one woman felt sorry for him. So they started again, almost a year later, in a second trial. In the first trial, the defense hadn't called Jill Easter to testify and move that Duff assumed, man, they thought they didn't need her and the case was open and shut.

They're like, well, we don't even need to bring her in. We've got this in the bag. So he was like, oh, they're cocky. She'd just finished her two months jail term. This time, the defense called her into the courtroom, but there was a complication. She pointed to her ears, claiming hearing loss. She wanted more than a sign language interpreter. She wanted a screen on which to read lawyers questions in real time. Okay, since like a... She's lost her hearing. Range request. If you had like some sort of temporary hearing loss, do you think in a two-month period you'd be fluent in sign language? She asked for sign language. Yeah. And so the sign language... So So the prosecutors believed that this is a rose to throw off the cross examination and

it would be harder to trap her. She'd get extra time to process questions and come up with a balance. That is a rule. If it's bullshit, that's a wild rule. No. The judge said she'd just have to make do with an interpreter like everybody else. And the defense all huddled together, reconsidering the wisdom of putting her on the stand and center home so they didn't even use her in the end anyway.

But like, how would a, how, how do you claim I've got hearing loss from what and then go, I need a sign language interpreter because in the short period of time that I've had temporary hearing loss I've I'm fluent in sign language now. So an interpreter would be very helpful to me and also I need a screen to I need special consideration Yeah, that's the same. That's a real curve ball in the middle here really weird And then they it backfired because they're like, oh, we won't even use it then yeah, that just makes it same very strange. Yeah It backfired because they're like, oh, we won't even use it then. Yeah, that just makes it the same very strange. Yeah. So the most, this is it from the articles,

it's the most dramatic moment of the second trial came during Duff's final remarks to jurors. He noted that the location of cell phones is knowable in three ways. When they ping against the nearest tower during calls, when text exchange, and when automatic data checks monitor the device's health. Until now, the data check records, though they'd been put into evidence, exchanged and when automatic data checks monitor the device's health.

Until now the data check records, though they'd been put into evidence, had barely been mentioned. Irvine detectives had missed their significance during their initial investigation, as had Duff during the first trial. Preparing for this trial though, he'd poured over them carefully and discovered what he thought might destroy Keester's alibi for good. It had long been established from the text pings that Jillie's design phone had been at the Easter's home on the night in question.

For at least part of that night, however, the data checks indicated that her phone had also been at Kelly's apartment. It had been peeing off the local tower intermittently from midnight to 8 a.m. So the eases had executed the plot together while a babysitter watched their kids, the prosecutor argued. Are there both out that night? Wanted planted the drugs while the other actors look out. Even if they had swapped the phones, the records put both phones at the scene, so both people are at the scene. I need to already testify that they'd swap phones.

Yeah, and then so Duff just goes, guess where a cell phone is? Ah, by the victim's house. Oops. And this is... So the victim's house. Oops. And this is... That didn't court. Yeah. And the defense were like really caught off guard. And because he'd already finished his closing arguments,

it was too late for Keester's lawyer to try and convince Jews that this was junk science. After the jury left the room, he railed against the prosecutor. He said he'd been sandbagged. Duff replied that their team had also had access to all of this for several years. So it's not really my fault you haven't considered that evidence properly. That does seem strange that he's able to bring up basically new evidence without a ride of reply.

That does seem a bit weird. Well, so Duff is still saying either the defense hadn't looked at the records at all or were hoping that I didn't look. And Judge Thomas Goethals saw no reason that Duff couldn't have saved a good argument for the end. And he said, it seems to me Mr. Duff made a strategic decision. It seems to me that you're fucked. The jury only needed two hours to decide. Guilty is charged. Oh, they didn't even need a free hotel.

Oh, yeah. Now, you don't want it. No, you're for enough. Fuck it. Go home. Nearly done. So the judge ordered a can of assets taken into custody. But he hadn't expected this, and he'd made no arrangements for his three children. So the judge gave him a day to arrange his affairs.

What, I mean, when you're just on the off chance, you're going to get it convicted. Work out. No, but he was that smug. He was like, no, I'll be fine. Sorry, Kent. And so the judge gave him a day and the judge said out of concern for nothing but your children. The judge made it very clear. He didn't like this guy.

But Jill's still at home at this point, right? for nothing but your children. The judge made it very clear he didn't like this guy. But Jill's still at home at this point, right? Well, when he's told his wife the news that day, Keester said in court papers later, she told him he should kill himself so she could collect a $500,000 life insurance policy. And when he refused, she made another desperate suggestion and escaped to Belize with the kids. Or she

would kill herself. Don't know why that would help either. Okay, Jill. Belize, that's where Macafer went. Yeah, that's right. So he faced up to three years in state prison. And yeah, like I just said, the judge made no secret of his contempt for him. But noted that the prisons were full. He said, in a perfect world, I'd send you to prison largely as a statement of disgust for what you and your wife did. Instead, he sent it to 180 days in county jail of which he would serve half. So two months, what are you talking about?

180 days, yeah. America's full of stories of people going to jail forever for like possession of drugs. Yeah. Right? Forever. And then this guy, wealthy white man, goes to... Go to the action man, well, drive the camera so...

I would have said to the jail but I feel sorry for the fact that you drive a camera so... It's probably, I mean it could be a new model, it's the counter-car that I could never afford. You know, so I mean I'm only joking because it's a funny... Yeah, what if it's a new one with all the Wiz Bank fees? I feel like he could have said nearly any other car, but we all know that. I don't know why a category is funny. It just seems like such a middle of the road car. Yeah.

So yeah, he serves half a sentence plus a hundred hours of community service in three years probation. So after all that, he's not much. So this is from the article again, it says, Easter did his time without the luxury of anonymity. It makes recognized him from TV and some thought he ought to be taken down. One day he said two of them knocked him down and bloody these nose. I mean, it could be a lot worse in jail.

Are they knocked me over? They shanked me in the nose. I got a nose ring. It looks sick. He'd filed for divorce just before his second trial and he was still serving time when Jill is to petitioned for custody of the three kids. She wrote of his instability and irrational behavior and described him as an angry worker, Hollik and heavy drinker, prone to mood swings who would isolate himself. He'd isolate himself from his family. So he said story. And she said, she said he blamed his drinking on his difficult relationship with his

Catholic parents who rejected her as a non-Catholic. And she said that he had threatened to take the kids if she didn't plead guilty to the drug planting. So they're just turning on each other. He was released from jail in 2014, December 2014, and complained in his own core papers that Jill wouldn't let him talk to their kids, wouldn't give him updates on the family cat, and wouldn't give him the airway machine he needed for his sleep apnea. Sorry, updates on the family cat was a little bit funny.

That is funny, and also one of the saddest things I've ever heard. No. no, you want it up, Dave? So like cat cans. So it's this wild, like, insanely confusing story. But basically, just to sum it up a little bit, Kelly, there was like this settlement and Kelly was awarded $5.7 million or something like that for her damages from the family. Yeah, I believe so. And wrote a book about it. She's written a book about it. It's called I'll Get You, Drugs Lies and the Terrorising of a PTA mum. It's right. Kelly P. is in Sam Rule. It was a quite average. Was it a success? The book? It's got like very good reviews

on Amazon, which is very confusing. Because like, there's obviously not that much. Like, what I've read to you there is a very detailed story that this, I mean, I wasn't just reading the LA Times article, but like, the LA Times article is very thorough. So it's not a very thick book, you think? No, it must have been, like they must have written this and then gone okay, or we need more. So they just, like the first few chapters are just about Kelly's life. Kelly's upbringing and stuff. Right. And it's like, this isn't fully relevant to this story, but okay.

So yeah, so she's been on Doctor Phil too too, by the way, this whole thing and there was even a pre-recorded interview with Jill Easter as well who was still denying everything. Yeah, right, still denying even though she didn't deny it in court. Yeah, exactly. And I've just forgotten because I didn't write it down, but Jill's like change her name goes by a different name now. Jester, she's committed. She sounds like, yeah. And I don't know what's happened with like their family or their kids or anything like

the Ava, Ava, Ava, Ava heart. But she comes across as unhinged when she's under something like Dr. Phil. Yeah. He's watching it going, this lady is like, you know, lying or whatever. Everyone comes off as unhinged on that. That's a good point. That's a good point. The Dr. Phil Prism.

Yeah. The editing and everything on that I'm sure is not to make you look great, but. Yeah. Including Dr. Phil. Yeah. He does not come off well. He does not come off well in that show. Phil, have a word to the editors, mate.

That is such a crazy story. All because of some bizarre thing that her son was left outside for a few minutes. Yeah. And nothing ever happened to it. What a nightmare. I know. For Kelly and for everyone.

For everyone, it seems like it's a good match. Oh, God. Yeah, the kids. The parents are off. So this was suggested as well. It was only just about one person, it was sort of like Carlos, who sent

me the link of the LA Times article, which sucked me in a couple of weeks ago. I was like, I should be, I was supposed to be working on, I think I was supposed to be working on my Arnie report. I just got really sucked in reading this article. And I was like, I'll never do it justice. But I thought I'd give it a go. So I hope I did an okay job with that. What are you going to call it? What Carlos called it was the framing of Kelly Peters, which I liked. But I didn't want to give any of that away to you guys.

But you will give it out to the audience. What are you reckon? I don't know. Yeah, it's hard to know how much you want people to know going in, because it was interesting for us to all hear it in. Yeah, maybe you just call it, yeah, the Kelly Peters.

Curious case of Kelly Peters. Yeah, but like, yeah, just imagine if it had been a different cop, it would like a less experienced cop just go slam dunk. It just makes it sound to me like there are so many as people in jail. Oh, yeah, it's always terrifying to think about. And so many bad people, not in jail. Yeah. Is that too? So that's fun to think about. It's so many bad people, not in jail. Yeah.

Is that too? So that's fun to think about too. Ha, yay! But anyway, that is my report on the framing of Kelly Peters. Was that okay? That was great. Thank you. I was in the whole way.

I have chewed my fingernails off. You were chewing a lot, I noticed this episode. Yeah. I didn't mean to. Stress. I was right in it. Yeah. And actually, I mean, I wasn. Stress. I was, I was riding it. Yeah. And actually, I mean, I wasn't sure where I was going to go. And the end of it sort of all went,

like it sounds like they uncovered what really happened. Yeah. Yeah. Well, great report and apologies to anyone who drives a Toyota Camry. Yeah, I'm not at all making a judgment on that. It just did seem in my head I'm picturing this guy in a power suit driving a Porsche. Yeah. Yeah. Slick back here. I mean it's actually kind of made me like him more than you drew a camera. It's still better than my car. I have a I have a Toyota Echo. Echo. Like an asshole. Like a dumb bitch would. Now your car is cool. What's his name? Norman. Colin. Norman. Norman. David, what's your car's code?

I don't use the name very much, but probably a hercule. Of course. Of course. Super question. I don't have a name for my, maybe Blinky, because of its messed up eye. That's sweet. I like that. That's cute.

Blinky Bill. Okay. Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show. Fat quote or question segment, just you didn't the jingle anymore. Fat quote or question. Things. How's that timing and the ding? It was so good.

What, that was that too late. I thought it was pretty good. You just don't get it Dave. I would have done this joke before though, Dave, this Simpson's reference. Why do they always forget the ding? I'm so impatient of that. Yeah.

Oh, I found that so fun. That must have been late in the good era, or maybe even into the bad era. If there is such a thing, which... Do we make any Simpson references to Simpson? I don't know. Some glad I saved that one for then. But I'm sure I do it nearly every week. So the fact quote or question is a section of the show where Patreons, who can support us at

patreon.com such to go on pod and support us on the Sydney Shamburg Deluxe Rest in Peace Memorial level. You can give us a fact to quote or a question and you also get to give yourself a nickname or a title, sorry, or whatever you like really. And this week, it is long term fact quote or questioning. Gatty J. Gatty J. I should say if there are other people in the Sydney Shamburg level, I am running towards the last handful of these over the probably the next two, three weeks. So if you haven't put one in for a while, you should get a new one in. So Gary J has given himself the title of,

he said Gary J from the UK bracket in a Brahmi accent. So I don't, is the accent I do write? Gary G from the UK. That's not quite right. Is it Gary G from the UK? Ben Ross, that's a real deeper. Gary, I got a G from the UK. I can't, it's, it's Aussie Osborne, but I can't do voices. Just your sharan. Sharan. Gary J from the UK. Sorry about that, Gary. I thought myself out of it. You've asked the question, Gary. And let's see, I don't read them until I read them. And here we go. No fact, quote or question this time.

Ooh, just a massive thank you for the pot. I bloody love it. This and all the others on your little mini network in a network. Actually, wait, I have a question. When are you going to do a Don Bradman report? Oh, Gary. So we have a Patreon group on Facebook for the people that support us on Patreon and fantastic post going there. A lot of discussion about episodes and all sorts of fakely related things and Gary J is currently on a campaign everywhere we get a Don Bradman fact until we do an episode on the greatest Cricketer of all time, greatest batsman.

Greatest cricketer, Eric, and you could call that. I love, I actually was doing a bit of reading about Don Bradman today with this, the thought of, I'll put it up on my next vote, Gary. That's my promise to you. All right. So now it's up to the other Patrons. You know, they let Gary J have his day. Because I, to me, I mean, you're an Englishman

where Australians, he's a big deal. America, where a big chunk of our listeners are from, probably have never heard of him. And I wonder if it would be an interesting story. And I don't know heaps about him, the Don. So that he was very, very good. Very, very, he's our Babe Ruth. Our Babe Ruth, our Michael Jordan, our Wayne Gretzky. Yeah. Our Kelly Slater. Try to think of the best of the best in every sport.

Yeah, we were, what else you got there? Who's the best of a footballer? I don't know, if I'd know who. Uh, Pelle. Oh, sorry, I was talking about American football, but you're right. Anyway, thank you so much, Gary G. And the second fact quarter question this week comes from Phil Verhe. Or Ver, Ver, Verhe, Verhe. Hip hop Verhe, Verhe. Hey, we were recording this real late at night, okay? If I have kind of an excuse, feel sorry about that. Feel for

hey, feel for hey. Oh no. Feel the hey. He's given himself the title of executive resident misophonia sufferer, lover of all microphone muffs. Oh, what did you, Dave, do you know what misophonia? No, I don't know what that is, but if you love the microphone muff, you should come hang out in the studio. Yeah, I wonder if that means the explosives are affecting or something. Miscellaneous, I mean, this is off just the top Google result. Meaning hatred of sound was proposed in 2000

as a condition in which negative emotions, thoughts and physical reactions are triggered by specific sounds. Misophonia is not classified as an auditory or psychiatric condition, and so is different from phonophobia. There are no standard diagnostic criteria, and there is little research on how common it is or the treatment. Oh, interesting.

Very interesting. Well, hopefully we're not, we haven't made you suffered too much today, Phil. Phil is offered as a quote. Thank you so much for this, Phil. And his quote is, there are two kinds of Arctic problems, the imaginary and the real. Of the two, the imaginary are the most real. Whoa, and that's from Vihijima Seffansen. Who? I don't know that is let me quickly. What does that mean? That is... Sounds deep. Let me say it one more time. There are two kinds of Arctic problems, the imaginary and the real of the two, the imaginary of the most real. If he's like an Arctic explorer, then maybe that's

like he's talking about the things you imagine are the ones that get to you the most. Let me look him up. He's an Icelandic American Arctic explorer and ethnoologist. He was born in Manitoba, Canada, and died at the age of 82. So I'm guessing what he's saying is, you know, the mindplace tricks on you and the most full-on problems are the things that you create in your own mind. Maybe is that how I interpret that? Yeah, I think that probably sounds about right. Wow, that's a wild quote. Thank you so much Phil.

He sounds like an interesting fella. David, you didn't come across him in that, in your research on that Arctic. No. Talk to you while back. in your research on that Arctic. No. Thank you, Wal-Bake. Oh, thank you so much to you too, Phil and Gatti G. That brings us to another section where we thank a few other Patreon supporters, Jesse, you know, we're coming with a bit of a game here. Yeah, well, car, they're drive.

Oh, great. Okay. So we're going to give you all a car. We'll have a best guess. Let us know how accurate we are. Firstly, if I could thank someone from Lindbrook in Victoria, our home state here, I'd love to thank Natalie Arnet.

Nissen Cube. Oh, right. Because that's how Arnet's biscuits are kept in cubes. Oh, I love that. Sort of. Yeah, right. Cookie. That's a very cool.

Big solar. Cooling cars. Big solar in Asia, I believe. It's like really popular over there. Yeah, I don't, that's a very cool. That was very, they're cool. Big solar. Cool looking cars. The big solar and airdrop relief, which is like really popular over there. Yeah, I don't know if I could fully, I'm picturing like it's a pretty boxy car on purpose. Yeah, absolutely boxy, yeah.

It's a cube. Yeah, it's sort of in the name. Yeah. Do they spell it quirkly with a K or something? No. No. Yeah, it should be a quib. Yeah, QU, U,ib. Yeah, cue you.

You be a quib. Cooob. Cooob. I'd rather a quib. I'd miss a Nissan quib. I'd quib. I'd quib. I'd rather a quib.

Nissan's another one, the American side of the box. Nissan. So good. I love Nissan. Thank you so much Natalie. And I hope you're zooming around in your sweet Nissan cube. I'd also love to thank for Merritt Island in Florida, United States. Ryan Lovelett.

Let, let, love, love let. Um, Lovelett, that's a sound of the love. Oh, nice one, Adi Quattro. Adi Quattro. Audi Quattro. Audi Quattro, what does that mean? Is that a four-wheel drive? No, not typically. Okay.

Just a beautiful European car. Okay, the Audi Quattro. Beautiful car for a beautiful man, Ryan, lovely. It was, they used to rally them, I know, that's why I know them. I'm looking out now. Oh yes, right, here we go. There's a picture of the famous Audi Quattro that they would rally in the 80s. My'm looking out now. Oh yes, right here we go. There's a picture of the famous Addy Quattro that they would rally in the 80s.

My dad was a big fan. Yeah, right. Is it a rally car? That looks like a full-wheel drive. I mean, it's got Quattro on the name. It's got full wheels. Pretty confident that it's a full-wheel drive, but. I thought you meant an SUV.

Good point. Good point, I can say that would have been confusing. Thank you so much, Ryan, Natalie. Oh, it's known for its quadruol wheel drive system. You are absolutely correct, sir. Well, I'm a pretty big car head, so. You know that if you saw me zoom in around in my car. I'm a minute.

Can I have a full, pretty important year for car, for monitoring? Thank you, Natalie and Ryan. I'd love to also thank from Philadelphia Catherine Nezbit. Oh Philadelphia. How about the fly of the city? Shiny black Cadillac. Oh I was yes, great. I was about to go something better than that, but yeah, save it save it. Oh, hey There's plenty more cars to be given out tonight. Well, it was connected to Philadelphia, but. Oh, what was it? Wasn't it all other.

Okay, no, no, I save it. The hockey teams, the flyers, I was gonna go with the flying car from back to the future. That's pretty good. Which I'm blanking on, what are they called again? Oh, fuck, no, I'm too. Oh, fuck.

Oh, no. Back to the... Oh my God, I'm gonna yell as soon as you say it because of course I know it. Deloore. Delorean. Fuck. Fuck Jessica.

Jessica. It's so late at night to be fair. It's so late to be fair to our nurse. To be fair to our... Be fair to us. So thank you, Catherine. I'd also love to thank from La Habra in California. Gabby Feltioni.

Oh, wow. It's fantastic. Goodness. From California, the state of where we were just talking about. Yeah. What about my all-time dream car? A Mazda tribute. Yeah.

Thank you. Thank you. My all-time dream car is, of course, the Volkswagen Cumbi van. Oh,. Thank you. My all-time dream car is of course the Volkswagen Cumbi van. I love them. I want a Volkswagen battle. That's very cool. Yeah, great options. Would you go classic or I mean, I probably, you know, as a teen, what I said, the new ones. But now, if I could have like a done up old school beetle,

I would love that. My dream car, maybe I'll give the next one my dream car. Okay. Okay, well the dream car, thank you there too. Gabby and Godspeed. Gabby's a Heldsioni. I mean I was loving the names like Natalie Arnett, Ryan Lovelett, Catherine Nezboot, but Gabby Feltsioni.

Yeah, it's next level. It's just that Quattro of names, fantastic. No, that's an adic watcher right there. But let me take it to the five zone with Amanda Ruwuki from Canmore Canada. Oh yes. Amanda. Ruw, it's a great name, Ruwuki. And Amanda conveniently, Matt, drives your dream car.

Oh yeah, what has Amanda got? Oh, it's a 1978 XC Ford Falcon. Wow. Beautiful car. Ford door and that bluey green. Oh. It's, it's, it's a, it toss up between that and a, like a 71, like early 70s, the X, Y, X, W, Falcons. Oh my goodness.

One day, if I can, if I ever somehow fall into money, I'm going to get classic, one of these classic Falcons. And will you get me a beetle? Yes, I'll get you a beetle. Well, I think it's more likely that you'll be, you'll be bone cars. No, no, no, I won't one from you. But yeah, the, I think we're going to look sick going around and probably all cars from maybe the 70s too Yeah, pretty cool cars very cool. Well, we've got one more person to thank and that is all the way from

Mimoli Fire Alice brings in the Northern Territory. It is Dylan Burns Thanks to much for your support Aston Martin DB in a Aston Martin D.B. Oh, yeah, oh my god. Is that a, that's the goal finger James Bond car. The really cool one that comes back.

Bang, that came back in an ask-guy fault. It's like, you know, that's an amazing car. If I had unlimited money, of course, I'd say goodbye to the VW and I go straight into the Aston Martin. That is a beautiful car, but I do not have $4 million to spare. But you know who does. straight into the estimate. Oh, that is a beautiful, automobile. That is a beautiful car, but I do not have four million dollars to spare. But you know who does.

That's a beautiful automobile. Dylan Burns. Dylan Burns got it. You're for you Dylan. That's a fantastic purchase. Well done. That's my, that's my ex-c. Oh yeah, okay, that's a classic.

Yeah, it's a tidy automobile. It's not bad. I'll get you from A to B. Thank you very much to all of you who have... We just shouted out to Natalie Ryan, Catherine Gabby, Amanda and Dylan. Good on you guys, you're all in our hearts and minds and beautiful automobiles. And I'd also love to see Dave. If you've got a quick fact you can give us while I check to see if anyone's getting

in tonight to the... Well, I've just looked up the James Wan Asden Martin DB5 that Dylan drives and I think he must have bought it last year at auction where it sold for 6.4 million US dollars. Jesus Christ, that is so funny. 6.4 million. It was the 10 in our money, 10 million dollars. Whoa, so he's got some, but you can buy the Lego from Myron Australia of that car for just $209.99.

$200, Lego is so expensive. What's happened with that? What happened? It used to be about the joy. No, now it's about the cash. Soon as the, remember the report I did, it was a family business for a long time. the money people came in I've got a shum So there are two inductees into the trip ditch club this week. What are they? What are we serving up this week?

Bob oh in that is there a special do we have a special drink cocktail this week? Yeah, I drink cocktail suppose one of them food cocktails this week. We're serving up Tommy's mug readers. Ooh, I love that. What's Tommy's little twist that he does? I don't know, but I know that I prefer Tommy's, I think. I can never, I friend Anna has to remind me every time. I'm like, what's the difference again that she tells me, and I go, oh, that's right.

And then I forget in between. Instead of shaking our stirds, type of situation. No, Dave, stop talking, you stupid bitch. So please, grab a Tommy's martini on your way. Margarita! Margarita dammit. What have I do to deserve such a flat, sleeveless man hat? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

For all of that recently. From Lancashire, great Britain, it's Ben Duckworth. Please grab one of those. Margarita. Margarita's frick. great Britain, it's Ben Duckworth, please grab one of those. My, my, my is freck and from Georgia, I think in US, GA Dave, Georgia, General Admission at the very least, Anthony Achild from Lawrenceville. Thank you so much.

I've got a couple of drinks. It's so good to have you here in the club. Welcome. So if people don't know that's Patreon supporters of ours who've been on the $5 plus level for three years, you get invited into this very exclusive club. Dave's working on some Gold Sparkly font to put your names on our website. Pilkates will not return my emails. No, no, no, get it on there. He won't return my emails.

So any day now he's going to get back on there. He's going to hack the mainframe, typey-typey, and you'll be on there. We've really got to change our hosts to one of those new ones that makes even like, plebs like us can change it. Honestly, I made my website with Wix and it was still very hard to edit.

Okay. So can we hear that, Matt? Hear that? Yeah, okay. But I am much dumber than Dave. Dave, why don't you just ride it in a gold sparkly pentake of photo, then upload the photo there? You have the nicest riding, you ride it,

and Dave can upload it. Oh, that's a bit that I don't understand. So you're uploading to this website. Yeah, so you ride it, Dave will upload it. Yes, as our front page still just, like, you got to scroll down for three weeks and it's one episode. So still that? No, we got an email like the, so Acast is the people that host our podcast. We got an email

every week, like, update from Acast. It said, we've now added a subscribe button to the player. Fantastic. But can you make it not nine feet long? It's so big. It's kind of an upside-down one, but I'm going to have to scroll down. It's been like this for a long time and we've got to do something about it. But look, can you see there's a subscribe button there now? So it's pretty exciting. There is too, yeah. It takes you a week to get to it. What to look like now. Can you reply to another's emails and let up. No, maybe they don't even know But it's it is funny Look at me zoom out that's what I wish that looks like and it looks like it's built for a really long tablet Anyway, it used to be on the old host that used to you you could see, so in that same amount of space,

you could see the last hundred episodes. Yeah, it was so good. Anyway, we love the AKAS. That's probably one of the very few things that I haven't enjoyed about him, is that we had quirk on their players. But we have not set it to anyone, so there's probably a button, we'll click, that we have not said it to anyone. So I would, there's probably a button will click that will fix that. They think there'll be some options that we can, anyway, does not need to be talked about now. Thanks so much for joining us everyone. We've done

it. That's kind of, that's done everything we need to. Follow us on social medias at do go on pod on all of them, including at gmail.com and our website. Check out that website. There you go. He's hot to trun. I've only just seen on a website where it says follow us. It has a roll over for Dave, Jess, Matt and do go on. Dave has Twitter, Instagram and his website, Matt, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, website,

Jess, Twitter. Why is that? You've only just recently got a website. I also still have Facebook and Instagram. You've never been on Instagram, mate. I thought it was really worth that. No, no, no. Twitter, you don't even like Twitter.

I hate Twitter, I don't have it. All right, I'll email Bill Gates. He's a busy guy. He's saving the world of something. Bill, help. Bill, please. So you don't think Wix is the girl. We're going to find, anyway, we'll talk about this later.

So thanks so much for joining us, everyone. If you are listening to this podcast right now, I wish I'm pretty sure you are. Check out the live show tab on our website and see if we're coming near you. Yeah, that's up to date. That's up to date. I've done that.

Dave knows somehow he's figured out that one bit, but the rest is real, excuse me. It's easy to add an event. I know how to do that. So we've got Melbourne Comedy Festival at the time of recording coming up a month of four shows, but we've got plans of getting around Australia, and maybe hopefully

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