Two In The Think Tank - 235 - Victor Lustig, The Man Who Sold The Eiffel Tower

Episode Date: April 22, 2020

Victor Lustig is one of the most notorious conmen who ever lived. He grifted around Europe and North America using dozens of aliases and disguises to con unsuspecting people with a series of complex s...cams. His most famous con is selling The Eiffel Tower, not once but twice.Buy tickets to our live stream shows here: https://sospresents.com/Our website: dogoonpod.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comCheck out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/man-who-sold-eiffel-tower-twice-180958370/https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-smoothest-con-man-that-ever-lived-29861908/https://allthatsinteresting.com/victor-lustighttps://uselessinformation.org/lustig/index.htmlhttps://observer.com/2016/12/the-most-profitable-lie-ever-told-in-history/https://medium.com/@margolestz/in-1925-victor-lustig-sold-the-eiffel-tower-even-though-it-wasnt-his-b41a3863a36fhttp://www.angelfire.com/pro/hoaxes/VictorLustig.htmhttps://peoplepill.com/people/victor-lustig/

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Starting point is 00:02:48 I reckon anything. That was the word hello. It was a good result. That was a great result. That was a real gamble. I could have said some deep dark secrets. I'm actually just saying. I could have said something very racist.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Oh, your pen. Seven eight four two. I killed a cat. Oh no. I hate my cat. Oh no. I hate my dad. Dad listens, doesn't he? Yeah, I don't know. I was just a joke, Rick. It's joke. You haven't killed a cat and that is not your pin number, we assume. Pin number, Dave, that's personal identification number number. Are you an idiot? Why is that the number twice? Why is that the number twice?
Starting point is 00:03:26 I am an idiot, yes. I'm actually, why do you ask? I put, I plug it into the ATM machine and I'm good to go. All right. I'm actually Dave. Very good. Hey, what's this show again? Do you, you never explain Dave, you're an idiot.
Starting point is 00:03:43 You explain it Dave? Because I used to be the one that always explained it and I never did it good. You never did it good. Hey, what's this show again? Do you, you never explain Dave, you're not you? You explain it Dave? Because I used to be the one that always explained it and I never did it good. You never did it good. Well, here I go. And I'm going to do a good. It's so nice when it happens good. Okay. What this show is called is do go on. And we're taking it in terms of a report on a topic often suggested by a listener. And the reporter, they've done the research, the other two people that don't even know what the topic is going to be. This week it is my turn to report on that topic. And to get onto topic, we have a question. Okay. That was a really good day. What's great Dave. It's your best effort. You did it. I was life. Do you know what it was? Do you know what it was? He
Starting point is 00:04:16 didn't get bogged down in the two of the three of us. Yeah. Two of the three is a rocky road. Yeah. And drive down dead end. Okay. So my question to get us under topic for you two is I mentioned Victor Lustig, one of my recent reports is the man who became famous after selling what building not once, but twice selling. Yeah. You know, I'll tell. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,'t remember anyone selling it. I do remember a few people boning it. Yes. And jumping off it. Yes. Jumping on it. And jumping. I'll be only after wedlock. So, you know, that's right. I mean, come on. It was all above board. No little bastard buildings totalling about. That would be very cute. That would be very cute. Well, this topic...
Starting point is 00:05:25 Well, the little mice could live in them. In the human building hybrids. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, you don't want mice living in you do you? Well, I mean, you don't really want to be a... Do you want to be part building? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Um, yes. What a ridiculous question. That is a dumb nal. That is why I want to be part built. Yeah. Obviously. If I could be part any building, it would be Melbourne's marvelous reality. What was it?
Starting point is 00:05:53 Jewel in Melbourne's skyline. Well, it was about 20 to 30 years ago. Yes, briefly. Briefly, the largest, the tallest building in the Southern Hemisphere. Really? Yeah, for best. In the Southern Hemisphere. We really, yeah, for best. In the Southern Hemisphere. Yeah. You've been about, wow.
Starting point is 00:06:08 It's been about 11, 12 countries. Amazing. Yeah. Or Antarctica. Yeah, and you're probably going to skyrise buildings. Skyrise? Am I okay? Yeah, that sounds right.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Is that a thing? Isn't it? Anyway, skyrise. Skyrise. All right, now. Yeah, no, skyline? Anyway. Dave said it. Alright. Now.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah, no. Skyline high rise. Dave, do go on, I reckon. I think they're called high scrapers. Anyway. This topic was suggested by a few people and I'd like to thank Brad Teesdale in Roppin-Yup at Victoria, Dominic Stevenson, also from Victoria in Melbourne, Jonathan McGee from Frederick Maryland, and Dave Moroseee from Frederick, Maryland,
Starting point is 00:06:45 and Dave Muraseki from Windermere, Florida. Oh, wonderful. Thanks so much for those people. So you don't know much about this guy, Victor Lustig. No, in fact, I could, I would have sworn I'd never heard that name. No, the moment I read it out and you were like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:07:02 That's when I thought, she doesn't remember this. I was like a month ago, I was like, I don't remember this. I was like a month ago. I don't remember shit. I don't remember last week. Victor Rustig, he liked the Afel Tower so nice. He sold it twice. If I'd said that, you would have remembered it. Yeah, it's one of his things that he said. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:07:16 So count Victor Rustig. Oh! One. I did it. Okay, he's a count, I like this. It was born in 1890 and what is now the Czech Republic. He came from a well-to-do family. His father was the mayor of the town and his lineage
Starting point is 00:07:31 could be traced back to a long line of aristocrats who owned European castles. Victor was well-educated and consequently learned to speak five languages. What a guy. What languages? I was about to say how many languages? Five. Yes, but what were they? Do you know? Yes. What a guy. What languages? I was about to say how many languages. Five. Yes, but what were they?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Do you know? Yes. Check. Spanish. Yes. Italian. Yes. Other.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Latin. Yes, thank you. Any languages do you speak? Two. English and other. Thank you. Latin. Latin.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I just can't remember the name for it. Well, that's one story he told about Victor Listic. Another is that he was born into a peasant family being forced to steal from the rich and greedy just to feed himself, and then he learnt to speak five languages. So that means... I'm stealing. ...undisputed.
Starting point is 00:08:17 That is indisputed. Well, one of those. Or maybe another M-disputed? Well, a third... Omni-disputed. Another third disputed fact is that he might not have been born of the Czech Republic at all. He might not have been born at all. He'd thought for the end of the show.
Starting point is 00:08:34 He probably wasn't even called Victor Lustig. The only thing we do know of a certain is that he did speak five languages. By the end of his run, this man would have 47 aliases and dozens of fake passports. The real Victor is hard to pin down, but that is kind of the point. The great wrestler. He would never be pinned. Car was himself in oil. He was the real little sucker.
Starting point is 00:08:57 He would go on to be the greatest grifter, con man and wrestler. The world had ever known. And whilst we might never know the real victor behind the stories, we do know some of the audacious stunts that he successfully pulled off. And this is the story of the man who sold the offertower, not once, but twice. So good. Well, I'm, tell you what, I'm fascinated. I'm in. I'll hear more. I'm undecided. Okay, great, on the fence here. I'll try and win you over some of my stories.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Some of your little stories. There we go. So what okay so what we do know about the man known as Victor Lister is that in the early 1900s he turned to a life of crime. He was first a pickpocket, then a street hustler, and then a full-fledged con man. That starts, you don't start as a full-fledged con man do you? The marketing getting the gateway, the gateway crime. And it's the marijuana of crime, as you will. And also, I couldn't fully tell you what street hustling actually means, but it sounds real cool, so put it in. Hustling.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Oh, that's my life. Every day. Trust the husk. Not a hashtag of mine. Every day on the first one I mentioned, but it's another one. First, the cons were pretty harmless. Mostly, slide-of-hand card tricks, conning people out of their money. Sort of shell game.
Starting point is 00:10:15 How is that harmless? Well, is his victim not harmed? Well, you know, I've robbed. Well, a fool in his money are easily part of them. I write to quote the Bible, I believe. Is that true? Yeah, looked at a Bible of pickpocket. Yeah, but we're going to talk about that as well.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Right. Oh my God. This is stuff. A true detective magazine describes listing skills as quote, Lusty could make a deck of cards do everything but talk. But he could make them. See. I feel like you're just holding him up going me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me So he traveled around Europe grifting and was arrested 45 times throughout the continent But he used 22 different aliases and thus avoided serious jail time. I couldn't think of 22 different names Think of it like first answer name. No one. Gragari Henderson Grigaria love George Washington
Starting point is 00:11:19 William Shatner Like these are names. Come on to George Shatner. George Shatner. He's like these are names. C'mon, too. George Shatner. George Shatner. That's pretty funny. No, no relation to William. Well, what was our, what was it, what was it, what was it,
Starting point is 00:11:32 an alias last week, what was his name, he got himself like Jerry Burbin or something. His real name was Andrew C. Thornton II and his fake ID said Andrew Burbin. And his from Burbin, Kentucky. I like that. Urban County. Hello, I'm Jennifer Vodka.
Starting point is 00:11:45 A shake and not stirred. Hello, I'm Tracy Jidentolik. Okay. I'm bad at this. I'm, yeah, Barry B. That's fun. Barry B. Barry B.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah, I guess like Maggie B. There's a real guy called Gary Gary B. It's true. It's one of the members of... In excess? In excess. What? Gary Gary Beers.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Gary Gary Beers. Where's the second Gary? In the middle. No. I know. I could be the first one. They're both the first now. They're with Gary.
Starting point is 00:12:16 His name's Gary Gary. How the fuck did I not know about Gary Gary? I don't know. Why Gary Gary Beers? He's on our flag. What? He's an icon. Gary Gary. I forget which one he is. He's not our flag. What? He's an icon. Gary Gary.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Forget which one he is. He's not, he's not the, go with the glasses though. He's also not Michael Hutchinson. He's not, what's the glasses guy name? With the pin, pin mustache. Oh, this is inferior to anybody at home who doesn't know. Sorry, everybody. I'm trying to read Beck's lips and I can't. You know. Kirk and Gilly.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Oh, that's good stuff. Well done, Beck. Oh, he said Turkmen Bershi. He is, yes. That is a very powerful individual. So, Dave Brickwell. Thank, that's pretty nice. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I'll go with that. But Victor Lipix. Emergency exit. I mean, you picked early. With Jess Fodke. So he's a master of fake names. He's also a master of disguise and constantly reinvented his look using ever changing facial hair and costumes that he carried in a trunk. How jealous of you of his ever changing facial hair. I'm ever changing. How? What's changed? Salmon none. That's too option.
Starting point is 00:13:27 That's too, yes. You should shave part of it and then have a go-t. Oh, I'd love a go-t. You could have ever changing for sure. Yeah. I think I've overtaken you. Yeah, you definitely have. You definitely have.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I cut mine back this morning, Mark. This morning it was down here. How do Wizards beard? Dave is pointing to his navel. And that's not being generous. It's more down here. He's pointing to his long, long, so what wearing pants?
Starting point is 00:14:01 So we carried a trunk of disguises. One moment he could be a swive businessman. The next he could be a rabbi or a priest. Swive businessman is also one of his names. Swive businessman and he's other name, Rabbi or priest. Or priest. Oh, I'm sure. Hello, I'm Rabbi or priest.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Whatever religion you are, I am that too. He could be. It's not smart. How can we make it? Whatever religion you are, I'm a different one more questions. That's the smart smart. He could also be a bell hopper reporter. That was a common one He did dress like a baggage man. He could escape any hotel in a pinch and even take his luggage with it Yeah, great. That's good and that works as well for a rabbi
Starting point is 00:14:44 famously Carries bags That's good and that works as well for a rabbi famously carries bags Could take a little bit just gear in there. Yeah, that is true He's too most definitive features were that he was fairly short He was five foot seven as the best of us are but there's I mean this is a hundred years ago five seven would have been Tell it all I reckon yeah Well, I've been told a hundred years ago. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:06 It was born long after my time. I've said that before. And my beard was considered long after a decade. So I would have been a rockman in the AFL 50 years ago. Now I'd be a short midfielder. Is that how you understand? Thanks. Thanks for that, everyone understand?
Starting point is 00:15:21 The other definitive feature was the distinctive scar on his left cheekbone, a souvenir given to him after he was caught with another man's wife. Oh no. Did you have to go into a shop to purchase it? Right here. I took a good nap last night with this man's wife. I'd really love something to remember it by.
Starting point is 00:15:37 But if you got in the way of scars. Before tattoos. Okay. People used to scar themselves out. This led to him being given the nickname the scar The scar I'll just call him scar face was already taken by the bad guy You I was already started to send and stuff
Starting point is 00:15:57 Well that if I could zag when I was already zicking yes, I would have said I'm gonna say the line Kings brother And I'm not not I can't get off this course, I can't. If you meant Alka Pone, that would be the third reference that we will call fall to in this report, and then Alka Pone. Have you read this? Do you hack my Google Docs?
Starting point is 00:16:15 Yeah, like some listeners think, this is a pre-written everything we say is from a script. Yeah, like Jess Voldka. Let's get back on track, guys. OK, page six, please. Yeah like Jess vodka. Let's get back on track guys okay. Page six please. Yeah, about six. One, two, three, four. For a long time the scar was really the only conclusive thing that police in different cities around the world knew about him. So eventually he'd be wanted in 40 different US cities because he had these different aliases. People would be like the guy with the scar, that was the only way
Starting point is 00:16:44 that they'd be like oh you're talking about the same guy. We're talking about it Yeah, right. There was one man in all of America with a scar Also conning everyone yeah, how safe was everyone else? Oh and lucky, you know, they call it the lucky country No, that's Australia. Yeah, we don't have scars, mate Let's take took you straight crown for the next level by traveling on transatlantic cruise lanners between France and New York. He later claimed he only ever stole from the rich and greedy. And during this time, he exclusively
Starting point is 00:17:11 conned first class passengers looking to turn their fortunes into even larger fortunes. Right, so he's a real Robin Hood, if you will. Yeah, but he gives to himself. And he was poor. He was poor, so I can't. Until he gets wealthy, and then he has to steal for himself as well.
Starting point is 00:17:26 God, I must be confusing. Hmm, extra, be not me. He was an extremely charming man. He would convince these wealthy travelers to invest in non-existent businesses. Right. One of his scams was supposed as a musical producer who sought investment in a broadway production. That given money as an investment, only to later discover that the musical never existed, but which time he'd disappeared forever.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Yeah. He stepped up to four cons from symbol card tricks proved to be very profitable, and he made a lot of money doing this on the cruise ships. His grifting practice gave him extra confidence, and he even came up with a now widely published 10 commandments for conments. So the title of the Bible for conments.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And amazing. Wow. Just still with highlights. Oh, I've got him here for conments. So the Bible for conments. And amazing. Wow. Just still with highlights. Oh, I've got me here for you now. How shout not. Not still. That's number one. That's the big one.
Starting point is 00:18:16 That's quite confusing. He's a, be a patient listener. It is this not fast talking that gets a con man his coos. Number two, never look bored. Wait for the other person to reveal any political opinions and then agree with them. Let the other person reveal religious views, then have the same ones. Hint at sex talk, but don't follow it up unless the other person shows a strong interest. Hint at sex talk. How much one hint at sex talk? You say a phrase that sounds sexy, but it's like...
Starting point is 00:18:52 I'm really struggling to think of an example here. What, look at this bottle that is below me. I mean, if they, if they, if they, actually they get a bone and you keep talking, it's not your bandage. That's awful. You are the king of the calm. Look at this bottle below me. It took me a second to get it as well. But I did, I was like, oh, take us a lot to my respect for that. It was such a time you left.
Starting point is 00:19:40 It's been saving that. It's especially good day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day.
Starting point is 00:19:52 It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day.
Starting point is 00:20:00 It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. It's a special day. I mean over here I'm pretty turned on right now after that Got it! Got a burner you can keep talking You could not believe that I came up with anything there No you did well You did well I couldn't dig you anything
Starting point is 00:20:14 Looked it in real like no one would have even noticed Look at this bottle Okay, are you saying a normal sentence here? Let's see where this goes It is below me. Oh I see you're interested in this sex door. Let me continue. Well I didn't realise it was just the bottle that we're interested in. Tell me more about this bottle.
Starting point is 00:20:40 That is a sex door. Would you like to invest in this bottle? That was great. The final two ones that Matt has not been heating, never be untidy. Right, I'm sure. Never be untidy. And the other one is never get drunk. Oh. Jess Fodger over here.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Jess Fodger. Hi, last time I was just my Magrida. Be a pizza. Yeah, yeah. There's about two favourite things. Margarita pizza and a margarita cocktail. How they really? Yeah, fuck yeah. That's a perfect night for me.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And probably vanilla ice cream and other basic things like that. Okay. I was just opening up and sharing something with you. Just dropping hints in case you ever wanted to surprise me with a nice night. Honestly, the last little bit of respect I had for you, you know, Margareta. What do you prefer Hawaiian and Abia? That's your idea on that.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah, it is. I know it is. It actually is. If you want me, I'll be at the front of the plane. First class. What do we have? Pineapple on our pizza. Well, sadly, all good things must come to an end. Oh, wow. Which I mean, cruise liners of the day, which were suspended in the
Starting point is 00:21:53 wake of World War I. So we had to give up traveling with these. Oh, people grifting. Oh, grifters are be having a tough time right now. They'd be having to griff people in their land room. Yeah, it's all online scams. Online scams are doing pretty well. Yeah. So Victor needed some new people to grift. Eventually he said he starts on America in the roaring 20s. Everyone seemed to be getting rich from the ever growing stock market and Lusstik wanted in on the action.
Starting point is 00:22:18 He wasn't the only one with this idea. Many smooth talking European con men had moved to the land of the free, try their hand at ripping off the rich. During this time Italian man Charles Ponzi, who the famous Ponzi scheme is named after, was also operating and ripping people off with his scheme. Why did I not know? I did not know. I did not know it was named after a single dude.
Starting point is 00:22:38 That's my best fact so far. Yeah, Charles. I don't know why that blew my mind. Isn't it obvious now that you've said it? Yeah, of course. Thought it was Latin for grift. Well, I speak because it sounds like like a synonym for like dodgy. Yeah, because we've heard it so totally. Yeah, but it sounds like. Yeah, a hundred years ago there was actually a guy called Charles
Starting point is 00:22:58 Ponzi, who was getting people to invest. And he was doing the thing where he was giving the old people money from the new people. so they looked like they're at treatment and their investment but they weren't really and then it all collapsed and he went to jail. So these smooth talkers called there would be victims marks and on the face of things they were true gentleman never resorting to violence again from True Detective Magazine here. Lustig was a man whose society took by one hand the underworld by the other a Flesh and blood Jackal and hide so he'd he on the face of things You'd look very respectable. Yeah, right very expensive suits that kind of thing
Starting point is 00:23:31 But then really he'd be briefing people off and also know all the criminals of the world as well Because yeah, if you see someone an expensive suit. You're like well, that's a good person That's right. Yeah, and expensive suit on my gosh more pins drives they have the better. Oh, yeah Yeah, really's right. I see him. And expensive. Suit on my gosh. The more pinstripes they have, the better. Oh yeah, yeah. Really thick pinstripes. Yeah. They're almost a white suit. That's a block color.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah, white suits. They're most respectable. Yeah. Especially if you're some sort of a kernel. Yes. Any sort of high ranking in the chicken roasting industry. Do you think he's a kernel of chickens? Yeah. Is he? You know? said he's a Colonel of chickens? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Is he not? Is he not a Colonel of fast food? He's a little to me chicken. Drop him, give me 20. Eggs. Yeah, right now. Too many eggs. I'm making it up big omelette.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Listing Married a Woman from Kansas named Roberta Norei, but also raised a secret family. So everything was secret. Even his family. Secret second family? Yeah. a secret family. So everything was secret. Even his family. Secret second family? Yeah, secret first family. Secret second. I love the idea of a secret first family.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Yeah. That's why life doesn't know. She's never been in the back room. Think I'll go out there. You won't like what you see. It's a mess. It's finger painting day. Every day is finger painting day.
Starting point is 00:24:42 She's like, I gave birth to those finger painters. No, you ate it. So he traveled all over North America and in 1922, Lustig went to Missouri and showed interest in an old farm that a bank had repossessed. It was run down and dilapidated and no one wanted to buy it. Calling himself Count Victor Lustig, his most famous alias, he claimed to come from Austrian nobility
Starting point is 00:25:04 that had been overthrown in the First World War, and now with his remaining fortune, he planned to rebuild his life in the USA and live as a farmer. Okay. The bank was stoked, no one else wanted to buy the farmer, and he was willing to pay top dollar for it. They thought they'd found a sucker. If no one else wanted to buy it, Why are you offering top dollar? Because he, well, it's part of the gift.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Okay. He wants them to think, wow, this guy's really rich. Right. And dumb. And dumb. And dumb. And dumb. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:39 So we got a sucker. Yeah, that must be satisfying when you're sucking someone in there like, oh, this sucker, I don't know. Yeah, sure, you want to pay top dollar for this piece of shit. I mean lovely farm. Yes. Has the great depression hit now? Or was it not not quite? Still roaring.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Still well I mean the farm's been ripped. But for many people the stock market is still building. So Victor offered them $22,000 in bonds, which they accepted paper bonds. And he also convinced them to. This is underwear. We're talking about that. Paper underwear.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Paper underwear. Bonds, that's how bonds started. Yeah, yeah. This is the first manufactured underwear was made out of paper. Paper, yeah. He also asked to exchange $10,000 of bonds for cash so he could set up the farm. Of course, though, trusted this wealthy Austrian noblemen and they gave him the money in an envelope. After shaking their hands and bidding the bankers a due, Lustig used a slide of hand to
Starting point is 00:26:28 swap both the envelopes, so he got both the cash and the bonds and he walked out. So now he hasn't paid a cent. When the bank found out they... So they're now holding nothing. Well, we've got the envelope here. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do got the envelope here. Do do do suck. No, I'm sure it's got sort of third envelope. Like paper in it or something and they think, no, great great great. When they go back to the bank. For underpants. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Go back to the bank. They find out there, of course, furious. They sent a private investigator to track down this windler. But Lustig made no real effort to conceal himself and was found soon after in a New York hotel room. He was fully cooperative and allowed himself to be arrested by the detective and was on his way back to the Missouri Bank when he started talking. Right, so the farm, he never even wanted the farm.
Starting point is 00:27:14 No, he just wanted the money. That's so smart. That's a real, slide-a-hand thing. You think I want this farm? What I'm really doing is stealing that envelope. Thank you for money. But now he's on the way back to the Missouri Bank, and he starts talking to the people that have captured him.
Starting point is 00:27:29 He convinced his captors that if they press charges against him, it would look terrible for the bank that they'd been suckered so easily, and that there would be a run on the bank by its users who would panic and withdraw all their money from this shitty bank, which would lead the bank to collapse. He convinced them to let him go, and to give him an extra $1,000 for the inconvenience they've caused him and to keep him quiet, which
Starting point is 00:27:51 they did. So he kept the 10 grand and got another $1,000 and they never saw him again. That's a good grip. He was just a good talker. That's great. That's a victimless crime, obviously, apart from the bank. Apart from a bank. It's a bank, who cares? That's the type of building I would want to be. A bank. I'll be full of money. Where would you have a bank midsection?
Starting point is 00:28:13 Yes. And the ATM would be my butt. She's cash and am. LAUGHTER Oh, yeah, that would be confusing, actually. Maybe not my butt. Maybe, like, maybe just in my tummy bit, you go, and cash comes out. If you were cashing out from your butt, it would
Starting point is 00:28:31 all be number two bills. So we are doing an edit on this episode. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, send everybody watching live live edit that out of your brain I'm sorry. I'm sorry that that didn't support me normally. I laugh at their bad jokes That is not true They really caught me out on that Well, I've got another griff or you're not long after Victor was in Montreal and Mark DeBanker named Linus Merton. Oh, that's so good. Mark DeBanker is a good name. Mark DeBanker. Sean DePole, Mark DeBanker, my two-fever rappers. Mark DeBanker. That's cool. Sounds more European.
Starting point is 00:29:18 So you marked Linus Merton this, Manker. Victor got a friend, a talented pickpocket, to steal Merton's pocket watch. 24 hours later, Victor Lusik returned the watch to Merton, to gain his friendship and win his trust. That's how I... He lost a pocket watch, so I found it. Yeah, great. Oh, get talking. Oh, I'm really nice, I'm really charming.
Starting point is 00:29:35 What's your religious view? I agree. Well, that's kind of stuff. I've made heaps of friends by finding shit and returning it to him, for sure. Hey, you've ripped people off. No, she's not made friends. That's actually a wee man, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Yeah, yeah. You return that drink bottle that I thought I'd lost. Yeah, I found it. No way, you're kind of, you know, stealing something from Dave, his heart. Yeah. Give it back. No.
Starting point is 00:30:00 He stole it through a slot of hand. Oh no. But hot. Oh, the two men got chatting and listing again, claimed to be an Austrian nobleman and told him how he'd been earning money since he lost his family's fortune during the war. He claimed that his cousin, Emil, worked as a bookie.
Starting point is 00:30:15 In those days, the horses raced and then the winners were radioed back to betting agencies sometimes in different countries. And listing claimed his cousin, Emil, was able to intercept the radio wires before the local betting agency closed so they could quickly put a bet on and know the winner. Oh. That's good.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Amille hears it and there's a bookie over there that's still open and you put the money down, guaranteed winner. They showed Merton the Scheme and of course he was very happy to get involved. They did this for a few days and Merton was stoked to be winning every single day. But then sadly one day Victor claimed that their golden goose a meal that knew all the winners in advance had to quit his job because his wife was sick and they had to move. So claiming that the scheme was coming to an end, Lustig convinced the banker Merton to place one last huge bet and he put $30,000 on a horse, which of course lost. So Merton
Starting point is 00:31:03 lost all his money. I know. Lustig then disappeared only for Merton to discover that the whole bookie joint was a set up, so it was a fake bookie. So, Lustig and his associates kept the $30,000. Yep. It's an interesting one, because you've conned a guy who thinks he's conning again. He's sort of, it's hard for him to be like, hey, this is unfair. Yeah. I was trying to con. Yeah. But I got conned, it's hard for him to be like, hey, this is unfair. I was trying to con. But I got conned, that's not on. Hey, come on now. There's got to be a line.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Yeah. And then it's just on the other side of me. Yeah. Obviously I'm fine. But I was in the right place. Probably as most famous con occurred in 1925, Lustig had moved to Paris, checking into a swanky hotel, pretending to be an official representative of the French government. Oh yes. 1925, a good year. Also, I think that was a year that a few teams joined the VFL, becoming the AFL, Hawthorne, Richmond, and the Bulldogs, I believe.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Really? Unfact. Is a fun. FAC! So fun, I like to fact check it now. What would I bother? What? What would we care?
Starting point is 00:32:11 Who would care enough today? It was enrichment. Anyway, maybe North Melbourne? Maybe not even that year. But a fun fact. All the same. One day whilst reading the newspaper, the idea suddenly hit him. The article that inspired the con discuss the problems with the upkeep, upkeep, upkeep of the
Starting point is 00:32:31 Eiffel Tower, which is you might remember from my report wasn't supposed to stay up forever. That's right. How long was it supposed to be up for? When he years. Right, okay. It was still a decent thing. But then listen to the whole report on the Eiffel Tower, everyone here more. But yeah, they basically kept it up because it was a good radio beacon. They're a tell and then it became iconic. But it's maintenance and upkeep at this time in 1925 and the paint was proving to be quite expensive.
Starting point is 00:32:56 So the article even mentioned that some people had called for the tell to be removed rather than the maintenance be paid for. So let's dig, got a friend to forge official looking French documents and then use the documents to write to the top people in the French be paid for. So, Lustig got a friend to forge official looking French documents and then used the documents to write to the top people in the French scrap metal industry, inviting them to the hotel for a top secret meeting. The hotel Crayon had been chosen as a reputation for government deals being done there,
Starting point is 00:33:18 so it looked very a fish. Once gathered, Lustig told the men, because of engineering faults, costly repairs and political problems, I cannot discuss the tearing down of the arthol tower has become mandatory. The highest bidder would be in charge of tearing it down, but would own the towers valuable iron. He told the men that they'd been chosen because of their reputation as honest businessman.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Wow. And swore them to secrecy as pulling down the tower was pretty controversial in some people's eyes. So he said, this doesn't leave this room, but you could be on in this deal. And I trust you, because you are honest. That's a good con. It's a really good. So I don't think this goes good at what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:33:54 You can't talk about it, because then you might figure out that it's bullshit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't you ever tell me what? I'll just keep it between us, okay? Honest businessmen. If you talked to anyone, they would deny it, because this is top secret.
Starting point is 00:34:06 They'd say, that's not true. That's exactly what they want you to think, but they're wrong. I don't even bother telling them. Right, yeah. Just don't even open that can't work. It'll just be such a tedious conversation for you to have. So just save yourself, yeah, save yourself a little.
Starting point is 00:34:22 You use the trouble. Yeah. Anyway, from one honest businessman to another. So just save yourself the yeah, so you're the trouble. Yeah Anyway From one honest business man to another Well, these honest business men were convinced and privately they started bidding the bidding war making large offers Wow But Listic wasn't interested in the man with the highest bid but rather with the man that he felt he could suck at the best Of all the men that were interested Listic closed in on a man called Andre Poisson and made him his mark.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Can I please call him Andre Krason? Yes. Kwason. Kwason, Andre Kwason. Thank you. If it was because I'm having a total guess there, Poisson. But it's had good, didn't it? Yeah, it's had a pretty good spell.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Poisson. Ah, yes. I think you're right. You're thinking done right, yeah. According to medium.com, Mr Poisson was unsure of himself, but anxious to make his mark in the Paris industry. When Mr. Poisson came in for his second meeting, he confessed that his wife had some doubts
Starting point is 00:35:14 and he wasn't sure if he should go ahead with the bid. Lustig responded by saying that he himself was just a lowly government official and that he was underpaid himself and implied that if Pooshon added a little bit on top of his offer, Lustig could guarantee him the contract. Right. Mr. Poshon, new government officials were often corrupt
Starting point is 00:35:33 and he interpreted this as Lustig asking for a bribe which gave him confidence that it was legit. Hahaha. And therefore, the contract should go ahead. Wow. A man who wanted a bribe would say that. I can't trust this guy. So he not only paid for the Athel Tower,
Starting point is 00:35:48 but he added a bribe on top. Incredible. Which is all going to Lustig. Once Poisson paid up the cash, Lustig was an attrained to Austria, just imagine with the suitcase full of money. He reasons that a man like Poisson would be too ashamed and embarrassed
Starting point is 00:36:02 to go to the police reporting that he'd paid for the Athel Tower. From Austria, Lustig kept an eye on the papers but heard nothing of the con. He was right. Poshon was too embarrassed and he never reported the crime. Just lost all that money. Yeah. So how did it come out? Well, because Lusty lived like a king for a while before deciding the coast was clear and he headed back to Paris to try and sell the awful tower a second time. What? How long in between? A few months. You're not crazy. Not a long time. That's way too soon. He was like, well, that guy is, yeah, two embarrassed to be telling his friends about this.
Starting point is 00:36:35 No one's going to hear. I've only five men know about this and they're all, you know, no one's going to talk about it. So you pulled off the same scam, inviting five men to buy it and he picked his mark. Sadly for him, Lustig wasn't lucky this time as the mark went to the police after he ran away with the money and the story exploded in newspapers across Europe and luckily Lustig did work again. Yeah, he got the money. Oh my God. Then he was reported. He was like, and then that's when the story came out in the newspapers and he became very famous as the guy who sold it not once but twice. But he got, he traveled back to the USA and got away before he was arrested.
Starting point is 00:37:08 What? Yeah, he's amazing. So that's his most famous gift, but he's not his most famous mark. The Great Depression hit and wealthy individuals came harder to come by. So can you believe that our man Victor was so confident that he once grifted one of the most notorious men of his day, Al Kapana. Wow. Okay, I see. So Scarface, Al Capone. Oh. OK, I see Scarface. So Scarface and the scarred.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Incredible. Mystic knew that if he was caught by training the most powerful gangster in the busy face, certain death. So he decided a new approach. He asked Capone for $50,000 to invest in a new business. Mystic took the money and put it in a safety deposit box. And he left it there for two months. Didn't touch it. After two months, he withdrew the same money and took it back to Capone
Starting point is 00:37:48 and apologized that the business deal had fallen through. Capone was taken aback by what he perceived as the man's honesty. He told him he never dealt with an honest man before. He was like, most people, if the business had fallen through, would have run away with the money, or most people would have taken the money. But you came back to me and I appreciate that. Yeah, right. Lustig then told him. A low bar for honesty, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:38:11 That was a real gamble. He then told him about his own financial hardship from the deal falling. Threw on Capone gave him money to tidy him over. He made $5,000 from Al Capone this way. So Al Capone just gave him money. And that was the car all along. Wow. Look honest. See, that's a total gamble because he could have, like, he could have been like, I fell through and he could kill him or something. Yeah. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:38:35 if you believe gangster movies and TV shows, you're fucked. Yeah, gangsters are often, you know, they're not that logical. No, or nice. Hmm. If anything, I'd say they're a bit nasty. Yeah, they can be. That's my hot take. That's mean. It's probably a bit unfortunate that we have to sort of put a blanket. Yeah, I hate to generalize.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I generalize about. Generally, I hate to generalize, but. But I'm gonna make an exception here. The nasty. They can be nasty. They're bad. Can be bad. They can be bad. Please. They can be mean. They can be bad. They can be bad. They can be mean. Not alcohol, obviously. No, not alcohol. Oh God, no, not alcohol.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Exception that proves the rule, which I never understood what that means. How is that a thing? You know that saying? Exception that proves the rule. It's the exception that proves the rule. I've never heard that. Okay, did I make it up? Maybe. Is it a family saying? Oh, not again. Not again. Not again. I'll Google that later.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Have you ever heard that Dave? The exception that proves the rule? I actually have heard that one. Okay. You could have piped up minutes ago. I was enjoying watching Matt freak out about his family saying. Which sold a pup turns out to be an absolute yeah real old saying which makes sense because your family is very old yeah we go back for you know generations whoa hang on your family goes back generation yeah it does at least three or four
Starting point is 00:40:00 wow yeah how did we not know this yeah Yeah. That's crazy. You'd have to fall easy start learning things new things. Yeah. It is nice. You know, it's nice so that we don't know everything about each other still. There's still things to uncover. You know? I'm what they call old money without the money part. I'm old. You're old. I'm new money. Yeah. Without the money. Yeah. I'm just new. You're a fresh. So fresh.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Thank you. I just showered. Yeah. And I'm just money. That's kind of true. Just Dave here dropping in to tell you that this week's episode of Do Go One is brought to you by ExpressVPN. All right.
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Starting point is 00:44:01 Romanian, which is a small wooden box fashioned from Cedarwood, with complicated looking rollers and brass dials all over it. Lusty claimed that the box was able to copy any bank note fed into it using radium, which was discovered by Mare Curie. No. As well as Penicillin. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:20 He would demonstrate his device to his marks, often aided by his sidekick, Dapper Dan Collins. Muck you. Yes. Dapper Dan. Isn't, I'm pretty sure Dapper Dan's was the brand of pomade or hair gel from a brother wear out there.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Oh, okay, we're right. Really? Also, all that I can think about was Dapper at the moment. And a lot of people at home might relate, because I've been playing a lot of animal crossing, and every time you catch a red snapper, because there's a pun for every fish, and when you catch a red snapper,
Starting point is 00:44:54 it says, it looks pretty Dapper, and I'm broken. I'm a pun? Because of this. I, like, I'm immensely don't understand puns, but I'm confident that's not one. I'm sure it is. Okay, well, I'm not going to understand puns, but I'm confident that's not one. I'm sure it is. Okay, well, I'm convinced.
Starting point is 00:45:08 But Dapper Dan Collins, you think there's no way that they could get any cooler, right? God no. Well, the New York Times describes him as quote, Oh my God. A former circus lion tamer and death defying bicycle rider. Yes. And then he's turned to Collins. Dapper Dan Collins.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Dapper Dan is my dream man. Oh, I reckon. He is incredible. Is he single? Probably dead, I. Yeah, which means he's up for grabs. I claim the debt. Namely, also quoting the Bible. Public domain 50 years after a body dies. Anyone can have it. Ooh. Lustig and Dapper Dan would demonstrate the box of the mark, saying that it would take six hours to copy any bank note. One note. It's six hours.
Starting point is 00:45:55 If anyone's believing this is the dumbest of all, right? They'd put it in a hundred dollar note and then pull out another one that was printed. That's like a magic box is what they're saying. Yeah, it's a magic box. Really, it was the $100 note was in there the whole time. They'd have a few stuff in there. The marks were then paid tens of thousands of dollars for the machine. I saw somewhere that someone paid over $200,000 for one of these machines. Double their money. Yeah. Well, I could just keep doubling it, right?
Starting point is 00:46:21 Yeah, you do every six hours forever. They'd put a few hundred dollar bills inside which would give listing and dapper down time to? Yeah, every six hours forever. They'd put a few hundred dollar bills inside, which would give Lustig and Dapper Dan time to get away, because every six hours they'd pull out a new one, they'd be like, this is still going, that it'd give himself a 24 hour head start. And he sold heaps of these machines and got very, very rich. Eventually, they'd start realising that there's no way.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Eventually. How could you be so fucking dumb? You deserve to lose all your money. You dumb shit. He would say, you know, I only call him rich and very greedy people. How did you get that much money by being so fucking dumb?
Starting point is 00:46:59 That's outrageous. Yeah, I guess it was a different time. Maybe before they realized magic boxes don't exist. I remember the day I discovered. I think it was around the same time that Jack and the Beanstalk was set with the golden goose and whatnot. Is that a real story, right? Is that a pun?
Starting point is 00:47:17 He may have been pushing his luck there when he sold the device to a Texas sheriff. I mean,'m yet okay. He got very confident over his life. When the sheriff discovered he'd been juved, he followed, loosing to Chicago, he told the sheriff that he'd been using the device incorrectly. So why did the sheriff buy or get that device because just printing money is illegal? Oh yeah, he's happy to break the law, but he just doesn't want to be juved. He deserves to be juved. So he said he said mate you're using it all wrong. He did a couple more
Starting point is 00:47:50 demonstrations and said oh show them and he said because of the trouble I've caused you I'll give you thousands of dollars of compensation I'll give you a lot of the money back. I mean if you believe he's but he's you're giving him a device that can print money why would that make any sense? Well, yeah, no, he just keeps it. No, it works like this. Also, he's a bit more money because of the inconvenience course. Here's a few that I prepared earlier. Money means nothing to me. To be honest, why would you buy something off me? I have a machine that makes money. If you think about it, it makes no sense that I would want you to pay me for something that I can make easily with this magic box. It makes no sense at all. Is that guy, the Texas sheriff, did he have
Starting point is 00:48:31 a big 10 gallon hat and shoot pistols into the sky? That may have been why he gave him a lot of money. Of course, the sheriff was happy until he discovered that the money was all fake. So this connected listing to fake money that federal authorities have been tracing for a long time. So a lot of, connected Lustig to fake money that federal authorities have been tracing for a long time. So Lustig has started printing fake money and then the government became aware of it but they had no idea where it was coming from. Now they had a bit of a connection. And he's got a cop who wants vengeance against him. That's smart. Good, smart. Oh, one of the agents later wrote, he was the only one I ever saw or ever heard of who
Starting point is 00:49:06 swindled the law, because that's how confident he was. He was swindled anyone. So dumb. So now Victor was connected to fake money. He'd gone into partnership with two men from Nebraska, a farmer system, William Watts and a chemist named Tom Shaw, to conduct a large-scale counterfeiting operation. They created thousands of dollars worth of fake $100 bills, four trees that were so good that they even fooled bank tellers. It was considered brave to copy $100 bills because they were the most heavily scrutinized by the bank as
Starting point is 00:49:34 they were the most, but even they passed. Wow! The men released so much money over a period of five years according to the Smithsonian quote, it was feared that a run of fake bills this large could wobble international confidence in the United States dollar. Yeah, wobble. I'm wobble it. I'm wobble it. I love the word wobble.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Wobble. And you're also like wiggle. Wiggle and wobble. Oh man, so good. Two words that sound sexy, but actually aren't. I think wobble is incredibly sexy. I look at this bottle below me, watch it wobble is incredibly sexy. Hey, look at this bottle below me. Watch it.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Oh, boo. Sadly, all good things must come to an end, by which I mean, the run of the greatest con man in history. You really, you keep using that in? It's done a con, I saw it all. Context, we're not used to it in, and it's... You're the boy who cried. Poor good things must end.
Starting point is 00:50:26 And it's going to come a few more times. I'm using it as a recurring trope in this episode. The mistake you made wasn't with his mark, but with his girlfriend. It's love I thought he was cheating on her, so she dobed Lustig into the police. On May 10th... We've all been there, right ladies? She went out in her back room and saw his secret first family. So what the fuck? On May 10th, 1935, Lustig was arrested in New York and charged with counter-fitting. He was called, calm and collected, and admitted that his partners were
Starting point is 00:50:54 counter-fitting money, but he claimed to have nothing to do with it. He had a suitcase within which was searched and found to only contain expensive clothing. It was a crime to be fashionable. Locked me up. It was a joke. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. Locked me up. as well as plates used to print the forgeries, so they'd got him. And at this time, this is an insane amount of money, right? Like that's so much money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:27 We've got a million dollars sitting there, if that's the way. So they'd got him for a few months. A few months later, Lustig escaped from the inescapable federal detention center in Manhattan, quoting from a Smithsonian article that I linked to in the show notes. They would, so well. He fashioned a rope from bed sheets, cut through his bars and swung from the window
Starting point is 00:51:47 like an urban tarzan. What do you mean he cut through his bars? He cut through his bars. How do he cut through his bars, Dave? Not in the quote, mate. He never did he fashion a sore out of some sheets? You never interrupt a Smithsonian article. Oh, sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I went a group of onlookers stopped and pointed. The prisoner took a rag from his pocket and pretended to be a window cleaner. No. Landing on his feet, Lusty gave his audience a polite bow and sprinted away, quote, like a deer. So quite bouncy? No one all falls. Without me.
Starting point is 00:52:19 He turned it to a deer. That's the window he was wiping was a mime window. That would have been fun. When he put a hat down, it made a bit of cash. And he ran. And an ordeal runaway. He escaped for 27 days before being spotted getting into a car. The FBI gave chase for nine blocks,
Starting point is 00:52:40 but Lustig's driver refused to stop. Eventually the FBI were given permission to ram the runaway car off the road. The car was forced off the road, guns were drawn, and Listics Car door was flying open. He calmly surrendered with the words, well boys, here I am. What a guy.
Starting point is 00:52:57 What a guy. Is this your car? Out of Instagram. He had a well publicized trial, and one of the journalists wrote that they heard one of the secret service agents say to the accused, I love it. Count, you're the smoothest con man that ever lived. He was hairless. That's something that hasn't come up before now, but he was hairless and would also bathe
Starting point is 00:53:21 in oil. That's why he was so slippery. He had a really, yeah, like a really, he was very dedicated to his skincare routine. And also just a bit of self-care, do you know what I mean? Self-care, skin care too. First, pampering himself, which I respect. He was pampered, he certainly wasn't pampered in prison though
Starting point is 00:53:39 because Listic was sentenced to 20 years in jail for his crimes and escaping the prison. And he was forced to serve his time in the his crimes and escaping the prison. He was forced to serve his time in the notorious Elkotras Island. Oh, which we've done a report about. We did the escape from Elkotras, that's right. We're involved in that. It's a report about, I think. It said that he had a postcard of the Eiffel Tower taped on his cell wall with the words, sold for 100,000 francs written on it. Whoa, what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:54:07 Just a happy memory. Yeah, just a memory like I sold that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh man, you've also got secret families. Have a picture of them. Freak. And you're in jail, mate.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Yeah. A good where you at it. You got caught, didn't you, Dickhead? He was a prisoner 300 on the island and referred to you on paperwork. Show a number there, Bob. You like that? I really do.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Paperwork in turn, in turn, he was a Robert V. Miller. Oh. So that was one of his aliases, possibly his real one. We don't really know. Wow. He was in prison on the island for the next 11 years, and during that time, he made 1,192 medical requests and filled 507 prescriptions, most of which were ignored as fake illnesses used to concoct an escape plan.
Starting point is 00:54:52 They thought he was just faking it. I'm really sick. I need a boat and a sore and helicopter. And for everyone to just look over there for a bit. And sorry, yeah yeah it is a weird new disease. Eventually he was examined after 11 years and found to not be faking yet and he was transferred to a medical facility sadly all good things must come to an end by which I mean the life of the greatest con man who ever lived.
Starting point is 00:55:21 The man known to history as Count Victor Lustig died of pneumonia on March 11, 1947. His death certificate listed him as an apprentice salesman. Okay. And that's where his life ended, but a bit of a post script in March 2015, bringing things back to what Matt said at the start of the episode. A historian Thomas Andal from Lustig's supposed hometown of Hostine in the Czech Republic began an exhaustive search of information on when he was born trying to find some evidence. He wasn't listed as ever attending the local primary school and after much research Andal concluded that there is not a scrap of evidence that Lustig was ever born. What you said at the start of the episode, he was never born. Just what you said at the start of the episode, he was never born.
Starting point is 00:56:05 So this, what? So, and then if you go to his grave, it's just bedsheets bundled together. He was never even a real person. And then there's like a montage flashing back and a cop is being swindled by bedsheets. What the, what the, what the, what the, what the, what the, and the copian.
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Starting point is 00:57:10 What was a turkey? But it's bad sheets. We thought it was a turkey. Why are they buried turkey? It's a different time. No! That's a report on Victor Lustig. There's so much mystery about him.
Starting point is 00:57:36 The stuff that we do know, it was a wild, what a wild life. A little bed. And he ended it buried a lot. She's gone dog. It's the biggest tragedy. Oh, what the hell. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. She's gone dog.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I've said it before, but he's still under there. He's been there for nine on seven years. One good thing doesn't come to an end. A lot of love. He's been in the shade. That's truly one of the stupidest readers. I loved it. I loved it. But it was so dumb. A man made a shade. Still a lot. He's married a lot.
Starting point is 00:58:44 He doesn't need oxygen. He's not going to suffocate. There he's your sheets. Sheets. Oh, I heard it. Okay. Cool. Well, that just brings us to the end of the report part of the episode.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Fantastic report. Amazing report. Thank you very much. We learned so much about sheets. I learned a lot about you. Okay. And I love you more. Can we also learn about the Ponzi scheme?
Starting point is 00:59:08 That was a fun fact. That's crazy. I also, I got a message from my mum. Let me read it to you. He reads them all out by the way. If you're new to the show. He always reads messages from his family. She wrote saying, this is, she hasn't been listening
Starting point is 00:59:22 or anything, this is just coincidental but you wrote the 1925 season saw the admission of three new clubs footscray Hawthorne and North Melbourne so that's the Bulldogs the Hawks and the Kangaroo's I think I that's what I said is it I don't remember I change from Richmond because I think Richmond were actually nine in oh eight right memory oh what nine twelve doesn't matter look it up I scrubbed the whole thing from my memory. Yeah, I don't know anything. That's pretty good that I remember that anyway. I'm impressed by myself. Thanks, Mom.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Oh, God. And my mom. Time my back, Mom. My mom messaged, because I said my parents were not watching and she messaged me and said, we are watching. And there was no emojis or anything, so I think she mad at me. Now, let's just have boom as sweet.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Now, she loves an emoji. She loves a little kissy face one. She puts it at the end of every message, because she loves to give me little kisses. Yeah, OK. Well, maybe my parents. Now that's just how boom is sweet. She loves an emoji. She loves a little kissy face one. She puts it at the end of every message, because she loves to give me little kisses. Yeah, okay. Well, maybe my parents. Hey, you. I reckon your siblings get little kisses, I reckon.
Starting point is 01:00:13 And by watching, we, of course, mean we did a live stream. Our parents haven't hacked the security system of the studio and are watching us through a camera. My dad couldn't figure out how to buy tickets to this, so I don't think he could hack the security system, from onist. But if he... The camera's on rolling now, the parents can't hear.
Starting point is 01:00:30 If you did miss the first two live streams, we are doing the next two Saturdays. Is there still two live streams coming out? Really been some of them. I don't know if it's because of being bottled up at home for the six and a half days that coming in here is even more exciting than normal and I'm normally excited. But it's been so much fun these first two. I'm really looking forward to next week
Starting point is 01:00:51 already. But it is now time for everyone's favorite segment of the show. It's the fact-quot-or-question segment, which I think has a little jingle. Fact-quot-or-question. And you can get involved in this if you go to patreon.com such do go on pod and you support us. There's a bunch of different levels. One of them's called the DB Cooper level which now gets you from next month three bonus episodes. That's right. No one else years. Sorry, say again. Mini report. Some sort of a random episode could be about anything and a third new one, which is about the movies of Brendan Frazier, like a phrase recap show
Starting point is 01:01:30 where we go through all the movies of Brendan Frazier and it's called Fraysing the Bar, which turns out I possibly accidentally stole that name from the Mark Chek podcast. I messaged Alexi from the mic check podcast to say, hey mate, had you said this once before, have I accidentally ripped this off you? And he said, maybe years ago.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Yeah. Why, you played like the sort of subjects was, why are you telling me this? Yeah, it's fine. I said, is it okay for us to call that? And he said, yeah, of course, but you got to plug my new podcast, which is Total Reboot, which is so good. It's one of my favorite podcasts where they go through movies that have been ripped off, rebooted, or
Starting point is 01:02:13 one other thing, recast, that wouldn't be it, but it's another one. So is there a possibility that they may do an episode on Fracing the Bar because you ripped off their idea? Oh, wow. So they do series, so they've done Star Wars, and then the movies that inspired Star Wars, starting with some, I think it was maybe a Japanese cowboy movie or something from memory. Oh, wow, cool. But yeah, a bunch of different ones.
Starting point is 01:02:36 So I would highly recommend listening to that podcast. Mark Check as well, which is about the movies of Mike Myers. So much fun. Yeah, Cameron and Alex, you host that are both very, very funny. I can tell the most talented podcastes in the business. And I've been on Episodes' both their shows. So you know, it's good quality. They're letting me on.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Probably two of the weaker episodes of both their shows. But still, anyway, so you can get involved of the Patreon. On one of the levels, the Sydney Shahnberg Memorial Rest and Peace level means you get to give us a factor quote or a question You also get to give yourself a title and we read two of those out each week. I don't read them out So I read them out that'll make sense if I fumble and something soon. That's me sort of pre-apologizing. Yeah So the first one is from Thomas Dopplerider and he's given himself the title of official quiz master
Starting point is 01:03:25 Fadoo Go Patreons. Oh wow Dave, how do you feel about that? That's okay. You don't look okay. Don't look okay. You look furious. That's kind of, I would have thought that would have been almost the exact title you'd give yourself. I'm happy to share with someone as great as Thomas. He is furious. Oh my god. He's fists. They are clenched. Oh Fist of you like that Arthur meme. Yeah, he is now a human embodiment of the air of whatever that animal is I'd fuck. Oh wow they did not nail that in the drawing. I don't think they wear glasses or sweaters. I actually would be excited, but he's the official quiz master and gives us some quizzes. I love to put it in.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Oh, actually, Thomas, you did Thomas who does a monthly quiz and he posts it on the Patreon group. Of course, and there's always a connection. You post nine questions and then the tenth one is, what's the connection between these questions? Some of them are very hard. Oh cool. Almost honestly, if you really want to earn this title, next time I have to do a Patreon bonus episode that's a random topic, you need to send me that quiz and I'll read it out
Starting point is 01:04:39 to Jess and Dave. If you really want to live up to your name and save me from having neuroticism, are you man enough? Huh? That's fun. I love that idea of, yeah, like, gilting someone into doing your work for you. Yeah, outsourcing it. What are you man enough to do my work for me? I bet you're not. So if he loves a quiz, has he asked a question?
Starting point is 01:05:00 He has asked a question, well done, and his question starts like this. As the official quiz master of the group. It is my duty to ask a question very good Yes, it's a good stuff if you could invite a guest to bracket no limitations close bracket or in America They'd call that some other word I forget what but in parentheses. Thank you To your pot so if you could invite a guest with no limitations, it's your pod to present a topic who would it be and why would it be Maceau? Well, because he's the official fourth beetle of the pod. Of course. We'd love to watch him work with that without notes. Yeah. And we have done that multiple times. So it almost feels like that would be a waste of a no limitations guest's ability. But yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:45 That's hard. So he would be the first, if it was just one ever, it would have to be Maceo, but out of interest maybe who else would you have? What about a great educator like Carl Sagan? Great. I mean, talk about, obviously he's no longer with us, but come in and talk about space, which I find absolutely fascinating, but I don't know that much about, and he knew everything about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Great. Yeah, that'd be cool. What about... I was picturing Neil deGrasse Tyson, but he's the new car-sagging. Oh, I got you. You know, the show that he did, that was a remake of car-sagging show, yeah. Oh, right. Well, that's why I've connected them.
Starting point is 01:06:17 What about Dolly Bob? No, I was thinking Billy Connolly. Oh, yeah. Oh, just love that. Love it. I love it. I love it. I love. Love it. Love it. Love it.
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Starting point is 01:07:09 Oh yeah, Richard the King King's Mill. I was, yeah, he'd be great. I was thinking of who's that guy, where's the hats? Who's the hats? Glen A Baker. Glen A Baker. You remember Glen A Baker? He used to be on everything as the music expert.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Right. Anywhere's hats. He always wore a hat. Much like Mollie. Yes. Is that how you become a music expert in Australia? Yes. You just have to wear a hat. So I reckon I'd get one of them on and do some sort of history of Australian music. Yeah, cool. That would be interesting. Be a real cool. Great question. Thank you so much, Thomas. The second fact-quater question of this week is Kelly Clark, who's given herself the title of Philosophical, oh great, Phenomenonologist. She's written it out phonetically. So, can you do a philosophical phenomenologist?
Starting point is 01:08:07 Phenomenologist. Phenomenologist. I honestly, that made it harder. I'm going to have a crack at reading as it's written. Philosophical phenomenologist. Yeah, definitely easy just to read the word. Read it phonetically. Anyway, so she's the philosophical phenomenologist of the pod and phenomena I thought you were going to do the expos theme
Starting point is 01:08:39 he has Kelly's given us a quote and her quote is, or it starts with a preamble here, hey Matt, stop for a sec and read this in your head first, okay, to put into a sunshine to kind of put in a room. That's not in your head. Okay, a person, wait hang on, I've put in, here is the quote, a person is an entity of the sort to which the only proper and adequate way to respond is love. That's Carol Voitiwa. Do we have the quote one more time in a sentence? No, I miss that.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Because she's put in these pauses for me to use. A person is an entity of the sword, to which the only proper and adequate way to respond is love. Why are there those pauses? I'm not sure. Okay. But there's another paragraph here for Void Tewa. I'm glad she's written the pronunciation for this
Starting point is 01:09:46 because I would have said what's la? Watch chla, but it's Voitywa. For Voitywa, the opposite of love isn't hate, but use. That is, you can't really hate non-people like Trees, Cars, Accountants. So hating someone is at least acknowledging them as a person. Love in Voitywa's writings isn't a feeling, it's an action.
Starting point is 01:10:08 It means actively wanting and working towards the good of the person who is loved. We've all gone quiet because none of us have ever known love. What is this word? What is love? What is love? What is his love? You sure you're saying it correctly? She put the pronunciation for love in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:30 I'll read it one more time without the gaps. A person is an entity of the sort to which the only proper and adequate way to respond is love. Well, that's nice. Yeah, I think that is nice. I think it's probably so much Kelly. That's one of the nicest quotes we've read out, I think.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Yeah, definitely. Yeah, love the variety there think it's probably so much Kelly. That's one of the nicest quotes we've read out, I think. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, love the variety there. Thank you so much, Kelly. Thanks, Kelly. Thanks, Kelly. And the other thing we, of course, do in this Patreon section of the show, over on the favorite section of the show, is thank a few other patrons who are on a different level
Starting point is 01:11:01 or any level above that level. I forget what level it is. G's are our Patreon Sam Sam more complicated than it is. If you go to the Patreon page, it's pretty obvious. It's still very obviously set out. So Dave, do you wanna kick this one off because I think you found where we're up to?
Starting point is 01:11:17 Yes, but still going back through the people we have missed. Jess hasn't come up with how we're gonna thank these people. Oh, of course. I think we should give them an alias because we know our mate, whatever the fuck his name was. I haven't picked a lusty. He had heaps. Okay Robert V. Miller, A.K.A. 40 other names.
Starting point is 01:11:34 So and I demonstrated earlier how good I am at thinking up names. Yes, you are so good. So I think we should give them an alias for their crime spree. That sounds great to me. Fantastic. All right. All right. He's gonna kick this off You want me to or do you want to Dave? No, it's okay. I can Things up because we're just we're starting very international. I was just double checking the country code That's cool international. We are here. I would like to thank from Iceland. Oh Which we love to have our From the Iceland International Code.
Starting point is 01:12:06 I see. I see. I see. Yeah, double check. Thank you so much. And these are still people that we've missed along the way. Yeah, because we've had a few names, and the system was a bit jumbles.
Starting point is 01:12:17 We do apologize that we've missed you before, but we've saved a great name here. Bianchi Stein Peterson. Oh, fantastic name. Bianchi. You were the right man, because you love Iceland. Bianchi Stein Peterson. Oh, fantastic name. Bianchi's a great name, man, because you love Iceland. You've been there. Oh, probably speak the language. This country I've ever been, that's right.
Starting point is 01:12:31 In the eight days I was there, I did pick up every single word of Iceland. Oh, good for you. Especially Bianchi Stein Peterson. Why would you, I mean, firstly, Bianchi's not ever gonna have a pseudonym. Are they? Why would you? With a name like that. To blend in. Oh, blend in ever gonna have a pseudonym. Are they? Why would you?
Starting point is 01:12:46 With a name like that. To blend in. Oh, blend in you'd have a name. You're standing out as the best person. Totally, but then you're on a crime spree. You've got to blend in, you've got to be like Steve Smith or something. No, if Bianchi robbed my house, I'd forgive.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I'd say of course, have whatever you need, Bianchi. Yeah. What a fantastic name. Thanks so much. Please welcome. You've enriched my life and yourself, my belongings. What about, as an alias, his name is Michael Wachowski. Ah, wherever you've pulled that from.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I just came to my head, sound like a cool name. Yeah, I like it. And your confident Bjaki is a male name? Just thinking that. Oh, actually not at all. So, let's go agenda neutral name. Michael. Mikkel. What about Jesse?
Starting point is 01:13:34 Jesse. Let's go say Jamie. Jamie, let's go Jamie. Jamie Lowville. Oh, that's good. Fantastic. Fantastic work there. Great one. Two options to choose from. Yaki Stein Peterson from us Thank you so much. I would also like to thank now From a chroma and great Britain Kaden Banford
Starting point is 01:13:55 Cracking name, that's a great alias as well Kaden Banford. Yeah, that's really good But aren't you trying to hide Kaden? Real name Kaden's fakes? That's a real name. Caden's face. We have Caden a real name. Caden's name is... Okay, I like, I really like the name Philippe. Philippe. Work with that? Philippe. Navidad. Navidad. Yes. Philippe Navidad. A sublending. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I please think some people as well. I do. I would love to thank from what's any in the state, Steve? New England. That's not a state, though.
Starting point is 01:14:49 No, it is. I'm panicked. No, that's an area, because Massachusetts is in England as well. Any. Because that's where the patriots are from. I think that's a whole reason. Nebraska, which we were talking about on this very episode.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Oh, yes. A few times. Well, we're talking about that. We might have talked about that in the live stream. That's right. It was in this very episode. Oh yes. Yes, a few times. Well, where we talking about that, we might have talked about that in the live stream. That's right, it was in the live stream. I was saying the fact that I just learned this week on another Planet Broadcasting podcast, a new one called Hat Jam, which I'd highly recommend
Starting point is 01:15:14 for people who were creatively minded, perhaps, or into music. It's a podcast where Kev Tempoli from Eskimo Joe has a musician guest and the episode I was in, who was with Kev, template from Eskimo Joe, has a musician guest and the episode I was with Kev Mitchell from Jabid Iyer. And they play this game where they put songs into a hat and every past guest has a well. And they pick two songs out of the hat.
Starting point is 01:15:36 One is to inspire a verse and one is to inspire the chorus. And they write a song by the end of the episode. And during the episode, Ke Kevin Mitchell said the fact that then a brassica album by Bruce Springsteen was just a demo album that he liked so much that he ended up being the final product. So it's a real low-fi album for that reason. Yeah, that's a really cool podcast I did too. And also in the, oh that was also at the start of the stream, I was just wearing Conner Oberst T-shirt, and he's also from Nebraska, which we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:16:07 There you go. And this person from Nebraska is losing their fucking mind because they're not sure if it's them or not. Is it you, Conner Oberst? I would love to thank Gabriel, Tice, Bruton. Oh, I'm here. Bruton, we're on a holiday. How are we pulling these fantastic names, right?
Starting point is 01:16:22 Fantastic. Gabriel, thank you so much. Love that. Okay, Dave. Have you. Gabriel, thank you so much. Love that. Okay, Dave, have you thought of a name yet? Yes, Navidad. Navidad, of course. Give us a first name. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Any first name. Cristiano. Oh. Lichiano. Oh, that's good. Cristiano, Feliciano. That is good. That is good.
Starting point is 01:16:44 I know what you think. I think you're quietly satisfied with that. You're welcome. Hey, I would also... Gabriel, go listen to Bruce Springstains, Nebraska. Let us know what you think. Thank you so much, Gabriel. You've redone it. I would love to. You've added a few overdubs. I'd love to thank I'd love to thank from Cork in Ireland. What? Laura O'Day. Oh, Laura Day.
Starting point is 01:17:08 That's a Hollywood name if I've ever heard one. Yep. Amazing. All right, let me kick this off with the name Miguel. Miguel. If I said the right. For Lord, it's a new name. Okay, Miguel, for Laura.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Miguel, isn't it? Miguel is fine too. Miguel O'Hara. Oh, cool. Miguel O'Hara. So what, you've changed your surname from Oda to O'Hara? Yeah. I was listening to a podcast last night with Catherine O'Hara as a guest.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Huh. She was a guest on Conan with Eugene Levy. Fun fact. You're already everything back to podcasts you've been listening to? Well, lockdown has meant that I'm listening to a lot of podcasts. I think Megwello Harra is a sickening. That is a great name. That's good. But I mean, you started with a great name, so. Yeah, thanks so much, Laura. Yeah, I don't know. Out of the top and now you're here. Still at the top.
Starting point is 01:17:59 And Maddie Stubri at home. Okay, if I may, I would love to thank a couple of more names that we have accidentally skipped over. Firstly from Toronto in Canada, the second city actually where Catherine O'Hara and Eugene Levy were in the second city in Prov truth, where they started at SCTV. He's incredible. Which I've never saw, but apparently it was a super influential comedy show from his 70s and 80s maybe. And I'd love to thank from Toronto Anna Rainn, making it rain.
Starting point is 01:18:40 These names are insane today. Good. I mean, we always have great names, but they have to feel like they're been better than normal, so. Someone give me a first name. All right, Teresa. Storm.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Oh, that's a superhero. Oh, good set. I mean, Storm is a superhero, but still. Teresa Storm, though. Yeah, that's all. That's good. May you've made it even better. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Thank you so much, Teresa Storm, Aka. All right. I see where you got it from because of rain. Yes. Yes. It wasn't really that clever of me. It's pretty clever. Sounded good though. Yeah, exactly. That's all that matters. Thank you so much. Anna Rain from Toronto. Sorry, Theresa Storm. Thank you. And finally, I would love to thank from Pittsburgh Penguin Country in the United States, and we have not stopped with the quality of names, Ashley Van Merrick. Oh my god, Morick? Van Morick.
Starting point is 01:19:32 I love a van name, a little Morick. Yum yum yum. I love a van. Yeah, I love a van. I love a van. I love any kind of transportation. Yeah. Fans are particularly good.
Starting point is 01:19:43 All right, you got to say a name, anyone? I got to say a name. Right I'll go say a name right dusty tugboat Blended right in sick it more That's a real low rent stripper name Dogboys dusty's red test welcome to the stage He's fed test. Welcome to the stage. We love the no-dusty talkboat. The do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- I guess this is a big ship. And he sort of tugging him on my arms. He's like a scrawny stripper who comes out just before the really ripped once.
Starting point is 01:20:30 And he's strangely strong. And they also tap dance, like those Australian strippers do. Or I'm merging two. I'm merging the musical stomp. Which, what's the Australian strippers' men at work or something? Oh, I see. And power. And power. something? Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:20:45 And power. And power. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just know that. Thank you so much, Dusty. You're so much. Dusty, you're talking about it. You couldn't hand over that passport without getting a million questions. Sorry, your name is Dusty Tugbert.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Well, yes, it's an alias, but I mean, I would love to see Simon if he's still listening. Simon on Twitter, Simon Morgan Esquire, he illustrates a lot of bad riffs from the show and tweets them. I would love to see you put those six people, those six alias is in a photo somehow. Good luck, Simon. Good luck, Simon, I believe in you. So yes, thank you to all of them. And yeah, like I say, if you want to get involved in that,
Starting point is 01:21:27 you can get on board at patreon.com slash do go on pod. The last thing we do with the Patreon section is induct a few people into the Triptage Club. So people have been on the shout out level or above for three years get invited into the very exclusive Triptage Club. It's behind a velvety rope and Jess has normally got some sort of hors d'oeuvre and a cocktail organized as they enter.
Starting point is 01:21:48 As I just double check if we have anyone on the guest list tonight. And we do. Wonderful. Tonight we've got a tie theme. Okay. So hors d'oeuvre's we've got mini spring rolls, vegetarian. There's also some curry puffs, some sate chicken skewers.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Love a curry puff, please. And prawn crackers, I had tired the other night, I just ate the whole bag of prawn crackers. It was the fucking best. Yeah, prawn cocktails last. Am I to assume that you've got some leftover prawn? Yes. And make the crackers.
Starting point is 01:22:25 What about to drink? My ties. Oh, they're yummy. Which I went too hard on in Thailand. Oh, what are the, are they green, they're green drink? It was orange. Yeah, they usually orange. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Well, I'm looking forward to having a little sip. So who's having a sip with us today? Having a sip from West Yorkshire, beautiful country, God's country, Steven Grume. Steven Grume. From Mount Wavely near where I went to university, it's Steven Edmond. Cool. Double steves. And from VA, Dave, is that your favorite state for Montal Virginia?
Starting point is 01:22:59 Virginia. Virginia. One of the first states, I think I've said in the past the first state, corrected every time. But I'm going to think with it. That's a good one. The first state in America. Virginia, it's John Sheerah.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Grab a cocktail, grab a nibbley, make yourself comfortable, mingle with the others. There's a few of you in here now, or reckon there's a good 30, 40 people in there. Yeah, we've got a real party. Yeah. It's actually, we've opened up the annex last week and, yeah, Mingle. And Dave's also going to put your name up on the website on a special page. Right, and I will be gold lettering. There's going to be a live band.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Yeah? Who's in it? Is it a like... If Gary Gary Bears. Gary Bears in there. So, it's some sort of an all-star band. Yeah. Can Chris Cornel be in there? Chris Cornel. Moving in dead. Is it that very scary Gary Beers? Gary Beers in there. So it's some sort of an all-star band. Can Chris Cornell be in there?
Starting point is 01:23:47 Chris Cornell. Moving in dead, is it that kind of a... Oh, great. Chris Cornell, Louis Armstrong. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. A lot of heavy hitters. I've got C. Springfield, of course.
Starting point is 01:23:57 C. Dolly in there as well. C. Dolly in there. They take an entrance to be back up for each other. Oh, that's nice. They've got for each other, right? So they... One takes the lead. Go solo, the other one's back up. Right.. Oh that's nice. For each other right. So then one takes the lead. Let's go solo, the other one's back up. Right. Swapping it out. Sometimes we're just going to let
Starting point is 01:24:08 sort of rotating three. We got three front. We've got three front people. Three front people is not a phrase that's taken off. There's no like um fighting or anything. They're all very support. I just love the music. It's not Fleetwood Mac. No. No. And who's on drums, of course? It's a fantastic, Darryl Summers. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Oh, the greatest drummer in Australia is ever known. But I think drums, I think Darryl Summers. Lemi on bass. Now that is a band. I don't know what this is. He will not look at the audience. No. He's looking.
Starting point is 01:24:42 He's too good for us. Oh, not, although the TripTitch Club, he'll maybe make an exception. Maybe. They're the only people who'll ever look in the audience. No, he's looking. He's too good for us. Not, although the trip did come, he'll maybe make an exception. Maybe. They're the only people who level looking here. It's amazing. A high class of guests in there. Anyway, that pretty much brings us to the end of this episode. Does. Thank you so much for listening. If you want to get in contact with us, we've got a website, dogoonpod.com. It's got links to the Patreon, Haken's Suggesting episode. We've got merchandise, you can follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram.
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