Two In The Think Tank - 240 - Phil Hartman
Episode Date: May 27, 2020You may know Phil Hartman as one of the brightest stars at The Groundlings, Saturday Night Live and The Simpsons - but his career also had some unexpected twists and turns, before it all ended in trag...edy.This week's episode is brought to you by Express VPN, visit: ExpressVPN.com/dogoon Our new weekly web series on Stupid Old Channel is out now:https://youtube.com/stupidoldchannel Our website: dogoonpod.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comCheck out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/phil-hartman-rememberedhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/man-laughter-snl-simpsons-star-phil-hartmans-life/story?id=65642867https://www.britannica.com/biography/Phil-Hartmanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Hartmanhttps://heavy.com/entertainment/2020/05/phil-hartman-death/https://heavy.com/entertainment/2019/09/phil-hartman-death-story-cause-reason/
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My name is Dave Warnicki and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart.
Hello Jess and hello Dave.
It's good to be here again.
Hi Matt.
You look like you're poisoner to do the next bit. I was going to
then because you kept going I freaked myself out and I couldn't do it and then I
left too long a pause and I thought all right just you got to go from different
jokey and I did a I didn't know a no end for me. I love it I love a block. I love a
comedy block. Because what matters, unfortunately,
down there is the musical episode is next week.
Oh no, I've gone early.
That's so my life.
What a my life.
Dave, we've got a really exciting thing out at the moment.
Would you say that?
I'd say that.
I'd say it too.
I would agree.
With who, Maddle Me?
Both.
Oh, can you? Interesting. Can me. Both. Oh, can you?
Interesting.
Can you never pick a side?
Can you?
It's on our, oh, no, it's not on our YouTube channel.
It's on the stupid old channel.
And it's our new web series, one episode down so far.
That's right.
We released it just a few days ago now.
The first episode is about the history of the Hollywood sign.
And basically, it's like a multi-dimensional version of this podcast.
Yeah, it's got all the dimensions.
Yes.
Sound, looking, smell, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, You got a lickier computer though. Yeah. But we went around individually
and put a little bit of our own taste
on all of your computers.
This is a noseberry, it's tastes like snowsberry.
So don't make that a waste of our time.
You lick your goddamn computers.
Okay, it took a lot of time and effort.
Too much, some would argue.
Our accountant.
But yeah, go check that out.
It was so fun, we've been getting,
I think nearly nothing but positive feedback.
So go look at it and tell us how we can improve it.
I don't know.
No, don't do that.
Balance it out a little bit.
No, don't.
Just give it, we're very fragile.
I'll give us only good news.
And it's too late to change anything, obviously.
That's true.
We filmed it pre-COVID.
And you'll notice that because we are sitting basically on each other's laps.
Yeah, it was a different time.
Different time. Now we are a good 1.5 meters away from each other.
At all times.
But the way this podcast works is probably best described by Jess Perkins in song.
Fuck you.
Every week!
One of the three does a report brings it back to the class.
How's that?
On course.
It's a fucking you.
And the way we get on to topic is with a question.
This week I'm doing the report, so I'm asking the question.
And my question is, I'm going to give, I'm doing the report, so I'm asking the question, and my question is,
I'm gonna open up to Jess first,
because I know Dave knows the answer to this.
Jess, you get first free shot.
Yeah, but what if I don't know it,
and then I look down?
Which legendary comedy actor is known for his roles
in such shows as Saturday Night Live, The Simpsons,
and News Radio?
Who's in SNL, the Simpsons and News Radio. Who's in S&L and the Simpsons?
Famous.
He's not wearing a tie at all.
Famous for his roles.
You might know him from.
Fuck.
What's his name?
Mothballing my battleship.
Dig your engrave and save.
I know who it is.
The president's neck is missing. I'm going to throw it open to save. I know who it is. The president's neck is missing.
I'm going to throw it open to Dave.
I actually don't know.
Phil, hot man.
That is Phil Harman.
Shit.
That's really cool.
I don't know.
Do we have microphones in front of our faces when we talked about our favorite Simpsons
characters before?
That was on the Patreon bonus episode, which came out this week.
And I was so excited to hear that we all love Phil Hartman characters.
I'm like, oh, I've got some fun coming up later tonight.
That is exciting.
We just recorded an episode and to be honest, nearly different,
half. So we used to say there were many, but then I'm in any bonus episodes.
We promised many, but sometimes we over deliver.
Yeah, for our patron and I did a report on the great Sigfried and Roy.
Yeah, amazing.
The original Tiger Kings.
Oh, that was so fun.
I guess one of the best bonus episodes we've done.
And like on that, you said who the original Tiger Kings and my mind couldn't get to
Sigfried and Roy fast enough, it was the same here.
I could see his face immediately.
There's a particular picture of him
that's in my head right now,
and I could not get his name.
And then you said, and I was like,
and I was like,
ah!
So he's been suggested by three people,
by Megan Rief in Shipanceburg, Pennsylvania.
Sounds like a cool place in Shipanceburg, Pennsylvania, sounds like a cool place.
Shipanceburg.
Also by Dan Brunetti of Canterbury,
and thirdly by Salina Hoots.
Lovely man.
Well, San Jose, California, USA.
Great suggestions, and great names, all of you.
So I mean, I don't know, most people probably know that the story doesn't end
nicely, so but Philip Edward Hartman was born on the 24th of September 1948 in Bradford, Ontario,
in Canada. He was the fourth of eight children, parents Doris and Rupert. Eight. Was that
sit on the scale? Ah, too many. Absolutely too many.
Yeah, does it put any questions in your mind?
My main question is, do they know what's causing it?
That's my main question.
It's a question.
I don't know if I have others.
My other question would be, how do you think of so many names?
Right, yeah, I hate G's eight names.
Because my dad is one of eight.
Yeah.
And there's a Joan and a John.
They ran out. They ran out.
Yeah.
And the first two kids just named after the parents.
Oh smart.
Wow.
And then they only had to think of six names and they still went
Joan and John.
Crazy.
That's the kind of, you know, family I come from.
They had a boy first and a girl and thought, well, I'm
being.
We've already known.
What a funny search.
And one point there are family of four with two names.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm so confusing as well.
Is that why they're here?
Who's all good to?
Meal the kid.
Meal the toddler.
Who's your trouble for not doing the dishes?
I can't keep up.
So yeah, I love it.
I think Canada's got feel like they're overachieved
with comedy.
So many of the great comedians seem to be born in Canada.
His dad, Rupert was a building supply salesman,
and Doris was a homemaker.
Great couple name, I reckon Rupert and Doris.
Love that.
Doris is particularly good.
Love it, very much.
According to a CBS profile, the Canadian born Hartman
himself once credited his talent to his birth order.
Quote, I'm from a large family, I'm a middle child, he once said, I suppose I didn't
get what I wanted out of my family life, so I started seeking love and attention elsewhere.
And quote, that's a bit of a classic thing you hear sometimes from people in the biz,
the show biz that is.
I thought when he said birth order, you meant like it was my birth right.
Yeah.
My heritage, I was destined to be a comedy great.
I came from a building supply salesman and a homemaker obviously.
Obviously.
I was plus one equals.
I was expecting a youngest child.
Right.
Cause they're always.
Shows.
Shows.
Right.
I'm a middle child. You're an eldest. I know. I us, right. I'm a middle child.
You're an eldest.
I'm a youngest.
I know that.
I'm a youngest.
Yeah, right.
So, I'm a baby.
I'm a little baby, that's what I say.
At family dinners.
I say, oh, a little baby.
You have to feed me.
My brother punches me still.
And you're always, my diaper needs changing.
Yeah, I'm always in an app. You've got a weird accent. And no
top on.
You're watching. Just please. Not funny.
Anyway, it hasn't been funny for 30 years. I don't know, I'm
the widow baby. I love that as well, because you're 29. And
I've been funny for 30 years. Not since the womb has this
bit worked.
When Harpman was 10, the family moved to Lewiston,
Maine in the United States,
then onto Meridan, Connecticut,
before landing in suburban LA,
where he attended Westchester High School.
This is the first time I really took notice
of the spelling of Connecticut.
It's spelled connectica.
Yes.
I'd never noticed that before.
I thought Americans were the ones who just pronounced words as they were written.
Yeah, like aluminum.
Yeah.
We spell aluminum differently.
Do we?
Yeah, we've got an extra letter.
Oh, I thought they just missed it.
But if it's spelled differently, I guess it makes it more sense.
I think it actually spelled differently.
Dave, you got the tie-breaking vote here.
Ass fault. Asphalt.
A deed.
A regino.
A regino.
So he was a bit of a class clown at Westchester once telling an interview, quote, I was class clown
because I could do John Wayne, Jack Benny, Jack Kennedy, Lyndon Johnston and entertain
my friends on the senior lawn.
End quote.
Showing signs of his gift for mimicry that would later make him famous.
I like to imagine that his voice
has always sounded like that.
Because he has a beautiful voice.
What a voice.
Oh, what a voice.
And I imagine like a 13 year old with that voice.
It's like, we call Dave Golden Tonsils, but.
He's got plenty of my voices running out this week.
So we'll see if I made the whole episode.
Not only he's got not only Gondon Tonsils,
but it's called Lips Gold and Teeth.
Gondons.
I can't talk.
Hello.
According to the New Yorker, in his 10 years,
Hartman's surfed Drew Grupot, Smoke Pot.
I meant, maybe grew it as well, acted in theater productions,
dated girls and did
impressions to entertain his friends. After school, he kept surfing and smoking pot, but also enrolled
in an art course at Santa Monica College, but dropped out to become a roadie for a band called
Rock and Foo. Maybe up there for a new worst band name I've ever heard.
Rock and Foo. F-Double-O. Oh yeah. Yeah. I and food. How do you talk food? F-Double O. Oh yeah.
I get them.
I don't know if the food fighter's a name to after them.
They had a beef with them, literally.
What is food?
Well, food fighter, that was a time of plane.
Right.
Food though, it's called food fighter.
Yeah.
Crazy, I didn't know that.
I never thought about it.
It's also the, what's the initialism, what's the other one?
Acronium.
Acronium, it's also the acronym for my favorite
of a racehorse fields of Oma.
He's one of those guys who had a bunch of noteworthy mini
careers outside of the career that made him famous.
So it was a rowdy, but after his son is rowdy,
went on to study graphic arts at California State University,
after which he opened his own graphic design company.
I was aware that he worked for his brother. They seem to contradict each other, but anyway,
small detail there. During this time, he helped design more than 40 album covers,
including for bands including Poco, Steely Dan, America, and Crosby Stills and Nash.
He designed their album covers.
He did, you know that there's this sort of
Celtic cross style logo for crossbeast is a Nash he designed that that is the best fun fact of
it. Yeah, I'm like that for me I'm dining out on that for the rest of my life. That's a super
cool thing but he yeah that's just a little footnote in his life. That's really cool. That's very cool.
Uh, and I, I read a quote him describing it somewhere.
He's like, he, I don't think he was super proud of it.
And then like it's probably none of it is super groundbreaking after
Zona or anything, but, um, he said he only has one of those album covers up on
his wall.
So I don't know, I sort of read him between lines.
He wasn't super proud of all of it, but still what a rad thing.
And that was just like in his 20s just banging out some, you know, three of those bands
are legendary.
I don't know if I know POCO, but stilly down America and Crosby stills a natural huge.
Yeah, and then rocking food.
Let's not forget rocking food.
According to ABC News, Harman was living a Bohemian existence
where pot was plentiful.
Around, I just never thought of him as a pothead either.
Like he always plays sort of,
or not always, but usually plays pretty straight
kinda characters.
Yeah.
Around this time, he met Gretchen Lewis
who would go on to become his first wife.
They married in 1970.
So he was still quite young obviously. Doesn't bode well when become his first wife. They married in 1970. So he was still quite young obviously.
Doesn't bode well when you say first wife.
Yeah, so he's 2021-22.
Steve Small Hartman's close friend and lawyer
told the ABC News program, 2020,
that quote, fill fell in love easily,
but wasn't very skilled at continuing a relationship.
Okay.
By a 1972 Hartman and Lewis had divorced.
According to a jam showbiz profile, quote, Hartman always thought he'd be just another
working guy who had little or no interest in showbiz.
But he was a little lonely working at his graphic designer desk every day by himself, usually
entertaining only himself with flights of voice fantasies.
Man, I would
have loved to have been in that room, just watching Phil Harp and just muckin' about with voices.
On his own? How old would it sound like if John Wayne went on a drinking night with Jack Kennedy?
It's like a little something like this. It sounds crazy.
Deciding he had to find an outlet, he started studying at the LA Improv Company,
the groundlings in 1975.
You know, the groundlings, I know it is a quite one
of the big improv joints.
Yeah, lots of big names have come out of there.
He said, I'm more or less started taking workshops
for the fun of it.
And 10 years later, I was still doing it for the fun of it. Apparently the first time he got on stage was they do it
Well, they used to at least do it a part in the show where they'd bring up someone from the audience and apparently
He put his hand up got got up on stage and the other said would never seen anyone come up with that kind of energy
You know, he was really memorable his right away his first ever performance
After he was really memorable his right away his first ever performance. I think soon after it was, he came back and he had some guy and he's better than that.
Who the fuck is he?
There'll be someone knowing.
I've worked really hard.
It's like most of the time, hecklers contribute nothing to the show, but then every now
and then when they're funny and they're new, you're like, fuck you.
Fuck you.
This is somehow worse? Yeah.
Mike Thomas, who wrote, you might remember me.
The life and times of Phil Hartman
tells it by an article in the New Yorker that,
and I don't know, I'll quit this little bit,
but this is from the New Yorker article.
Hartman was instantly good, a performer
whose utter commitment begat brilliance,
an indispensable utility player
who could be counted on in all scenarios.
Pretty glowing praise for a performer.
John Lovitz, who probably know from a bunch of stuff,
Simpson's and Sade not live,
and I loved his wedding singer role.
Yes.
Is he a DJ or is he the other wedding singer?
He's like in competition with Adam Sand, anyway.
And there's this one saying,
I'm an Adam Sand, let's start and I'll lose it a bit.
Love it's just picks from behind a curtain
because he's losing his mind.
And I'm reaping all the benefits.
And then he's a disapointing one.
And that classic Love It's Voice.
Rates, another great one from Joe Lois.
An old time great, everyone remembers it, Rates. That's an old star cast. Rice, another great one from Joe Lois.
Old time great, everyone remembers it, right, rice.
That's an old star cast.
Oh my God.
Rowan Acton, please.
Yeah, I think it was one of those films
where the best thing about it was the cast.
It just looked at me like, it's whoopie in it.
It feels like one of those ones is everyone's in it.
It might be.
But Reynolds, I'm not thinking of Cannonball run.
I've probably saw her when I was 10 years old,
or 11 when I came out.
Is that aise, is that aise, classic atkinson?
Well, classic atkins.
We got Rowan atkinson.
John Cleese, Warpy Goldberg, Cuba Gooding Junior,
Seth Green, John Lovitz, Breckenmeyer, Amy Smite.
Yes.
That is quite a lineup.
Big lineup.
Was that a good movie?
It was fine.
I think it was good for an 11 year old.
Yeah, about that age, loved it.
So as if when to come out in 90s?
Oh, August 17, 2001.
I've much more innocent time.
Yeah.
Just.
Pre-911 World.
So John Lovitz, a grandling at at the time to considered Hartman a big star
Someone who could be told to play a shoe salesman and deliver something jaw-dropping
Quote whatever he was going to imagine or say was nothing you could imagine or think of he could do any voice play any character
Make his face look different without makeup. He was king of the groundlings. Whoa, what amazing praise.
I've seen it, uh, uh,
recent interviews with Love It's and he just, he talks about the first time he met
him. Um, he started soon after and he was playing an understudy and I play
though doing what Hartman was the lead. And uh, he said, and, and he, the first
thing he said to him was, I'm, I'm understudy for this character
and Phil Hartman goes to him,
oh, you'll be great.
And I love it.
It's remembers walking away gone,
oh my God, I just spoke to Phil Hartman.
Oh, wow.
He's just like, he was, yeah, which is pretty amazing.
That's so nice.
Uh, his first onscreen experience was as a contestant on the dating game, a blind dating show.
He won the episode being selected at the end of the episode by the Bachelor at.
Yeah, we've had similar shows here.
Yeah.
I can't remember what they called, but yeah, some sort of perfect match.
Perfect match, yeah.
So he was even good.
Dave's done live version.
Yeah, yeah.
I did do a few years of live version of that show,
but so he's even good on that show.
Yeah.
Well, sort of, but I mean, yeah,
it was a different time kind of thing.
The ego is, he later recalled that winning was, quote,
that was the worst part of it.
The other two guys were doults.
What did it?
She asked me,
if I was a street sign, what would I be? I said,
slippery when wet. He goes, yes. And as you might have expected, she stood me up. So she
did, for a TV date, she didn't go to the day. I wouldn't. I know what he said.
What's he going to say? And she picked him after he said that. Yeah, yeah. So I guess he, yeah, slim pickings I guess.
I mean, what is fucking ridiculous question?
Yeah.
I think you'd be stop sign.
It's one of those questions where they're pretty much
begging for him to say that or something like that.
And then like, ooh.
Yeah, like I would say hump.
Hump ahead of something.
Hump ahead.
Because I'm say hump, hump a head. Oh, don't. Because I'm going to hump you. Yeah, no, I got it.
I got it, Darren.
Yield, because I'm going to be the strong one in this relationship
and you back down.
It's all creepy.
There was a sign.
Round about.
Slow children ahead.
Where are our kids?
They're not going to be that smart.
There was a sign on my street where I grew up and it was a giveaway sign but someone
just written in and it was there for like 20 years.
Give way to my dick.
That's what I'd be.
Give way to my dick.
I didn't know that was a sign.
Yeah, well if you lived on Valonia Drive, you don't.
Give way to my dick.
That's the one that you see.
Well, I don't if you still see that much but I remember seeing a lot younger was a lot of people wrote under stop later
I'd write hammer time you see that around
How dare you I was definitely alive for hammer fever
I was definitely a love for Hammer Fever. It's Hammer!
But I think it was way out of date even when I was saying this as graffiti.
Yeah, that's right.
So we're into the 70s and he began to get some voice work in the late 70s.
I think his first one was one of the 1979 version of Scooby-Doo.
He was called Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo.
He also did voice work for The Smurfs, The Jetsons and Dennis The Menace.
A few iconic shows.
He started scoring some small film roles as well, such as in the Gong Show movie
play a role called Man at Airport with Gun.
And in Cheech and Chong's next movie,
he played the role, actor being filmed in the background.
Okay.
Big start.
Yeah, so he was climbing.
He met Paul Rubens at the groundlings
and they started a creative partnership
with Hartman helping Rubens develop his Peewee
Hermann character, which I know by name,
but I don't really, I watched a little
clip and he seems like quite an annoying character. But I think it was a big deal at some point.
Have you heard of Peewee Herm? I've heard of Peewee Herm and yeah. Yeah. And there was some controversy
where the actor was called like an adult cinema or something and then he had to sort of disappear
for a few years. I think I can come back.
Yeah.
Was it like a children's character or like just...
Yeah, because then you would appear...
Or family friendly.
Like a family friendly character and then...
Right.
I don't think he was doing anything like legal or anything.
It was just like, oh, you're watching porn.
Yeah.
Why would you go to a cinema for that?
I guess it was probably a must remain pre-intinate.
Well, maybe you'd like to come or out of here. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know yeah. Oh, yeah. So Hartman helped develop that character of P.W. Herman,
which is a wild fact as well.
In 1982 Hartman married again to real estate agent Lisa
Strain, but this marriage ended less than three years later.
According to Strain, he would, and I saw,
I think she obviously, she, the married again,
I'll change her name because she's also referred
to as Lisa Jarvis in different articles. So I think I end up I think she obviously, she, the married again, I'll change her name because she's also referred to as Lisa Jarvis in different articles.
So I think I end up just calling it Lisa.
But anyway, this point I'm calling Lisa Strain.
She said, he would disappear emotionally.
Phil's body would be there, but it'd be in his own world.
That pass, pass, pass, activity made you crazy.
Passativity? Pass, passiveness is what I'd say.
But I like making up fresh words. PASSITIVITY? Passiveness is what I'd say.
But I like making up fresh words.
Quote goes on, oh, it dissapear quote from her.
My sense of feel was that he was really two people.
She later told 2020.
He was the guy who wanted to draw and write
and think and create and come up with ideas.
He was the actor and entertainer,
and then he was the recluse.
Seeing feel at ground links at the then he was the recluse.
Seeing Philip groundling at the groundlings was
Phil being true Phil.
You know, as time goes by, you understand
that his personas, his protection,
and they are his personality.
But she said it was, it was,
that nut does seem to be repeated in his relationships.
John Phil, there's something to be,
it feels a bit like an intrusive me even
reading about some of this stuff about his relationships, but probably, you know, he would
be a bit distant at times. And that would cause issues, which is marriage. Obviously, it's
hard to be in a relationship with someone who's emotionally distant. From the New Yorker,
Hartman met Bren Omdahl at a party in 1985 soon after his second marriage
ended.
So then Omdahl had terrible trouble with cocaine and alcohol in the past.
Thomas who wrote that biography writes, have been at his most vulnerable state in years. His second marriage is ending and shaken him, and his performing career wasn't taking off. Omda was strikingly beautiful Thomas
Rites, and the affections of a statuous blonde may have bolstered Hartman's deflated self-image.
But their relationship, he says, was bumpy from the get-go. I don't know why I haven't
read that out, like a biographer later going,
this may have been why he could have done this.
All feels like kind of almost pointless.
What are the speculations?
Speculation.
Speculation, thinking.
In 1985, his career was starting to pick up,
quote,
Peewee's big adventure was released,
which Hartman co-wrote with Ruben and Michael Vaugho.
In the film, the directorial debut of Tim Burton,
which I found surprising, Tim Burton's first film apparently was
P.We Herman's big adventure.
All right.
Hartman in that film also had an on-screen role as reporter.
Okay.
He wrote the film, co-wrote it, and the only role they could think to give him was reporter.
I'm sure he did a great job though.
Yeah, he'd be a great reporter.
I think he played news people a few times.
Yeah.
The film was a hit which led to Rubens hosting Saturday Night Live in character as P.W.
And Hartman was hired to write material for the episode.
Creator and executive producer of SNL, Lord Michael's, enjoy, enjoy, hard work. And said, uh, so to Ruben's manager, who, according to Thomas told him, in effect,
you ain't seen nothing yet. Love that manager character. Wow, this heart man guy is great.
Yeah, you ain't seen nothing yet. Despite all the complimentary words about heart man,
he was a lot more modest about himself later saying, as an actor, I felt I couldn't compete.
I wasn't as cute as the leading man.
I wasn't as brilliant as Robin Williams.
The one thing I could do was voices in personations and weird characters.
And there was really no call for that except on Saturday night.
I'm just gonna say, if only there was a show that had that every week.
In 1986, Hartman was hired by SNL as a performer and writer. As well as Hartman,
Jan Hooks, Dana Carvey, Victoria Jackson and Kevin Neal and were added to that same cast,
which already included Dennis Miller, Nora Dunn and John Loveitts. So John Loveitts got to SNL
before him and then they got to work together on air there, which is pretty cool. That's nice.
I've been just reading about SNL for a while.
It sounds like a brutal time.
There's all there's so many big stars that I didn't even know did time.
And they're like, Chris Rock was on it for a while.
Ben Stiller did a year on it.
And all these people sort of bombed out on it.
I read an article as written a few years ago that ranked every ever cast member.
Jesus.
Ranked so they ranked the worst ever cast member
at 120 something or whatever.
Well, it's a real rough article
and they're not, and they're mean for the first half,
which is wild.
I'm like, oh, what?
It sounds like the shit is job to get ever.
But it's also.
And they're still better than so many other people
who want that stuff.
Every year, like 2000 people auditioned
and four get in or something.
Yeah.
Probably more. It's probably more to be honest.
So it, and it just sounds like it's the kind of job that is always stressful.
I listen to the Conan O'Brien's podcast with Mike Myers recently.
And Mike Myers, who's the big star, huge success on that show.
He said every week he thought he was going to get fired.
He never enjoyed it.
He was always stressed about getting sacked.
Faaah.
And just there's something about the culture of that show
that just sounds like you're just,
and they have a thing as they work all the way through
the night on Tuesdays and they write the show.
All the riders are in overnight.
Everyone has to be there and work through the night
to write the show.
Why?
Everything it just sounds like this is how it started.
It's on Saturday night.
Yeah.
So why couldn't you work Monday to Friday at regular hours?
I think they meant to work full time,
but then they do, maybe it's Thursday,
but one of the nights they write the show overnight.
Anyway, I was just like, oh, this sounds like full toxic,
but you know, who was voted number one?
I do know.
That do you ask me?
No.
No. It was, oh, you know, no, it was,
oh, I should say Phil Harman was in the top six.
Wow.
Nice.
Nice.
I think,
Will Ferrell or something?
Will Ferrell's up there, but he was like,
I think it was around the top 10.
And Tina Fey was right up.
I think she was like three or something.
And is it based on just their time on SNL?
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, great.
It was in the Rolling Stone,
a Rolling Stone back then as well.
So it was like a man,
it would have been heartbreaking for so many people
who would have heard about it.
It's 145.
Who's 145? That's awful.
Robert Downey Jr. 145.
Okay. He'll be all right.
Yeah. I think he-
I don't know he was on it.
Yeah. I don't know either.
The Muppets were on briefly early
and they were ranked very low.
144.
So hang on.
Robert Downey Jr. was the worst.
And then the Muppet second worst.
But he's Robert Downey Jr.
Yeah. No, I think the Muppets.
I think, yeah, that's right.
So they both bounce back. Okay. But that's Robert Downey Jr. Yeah, no, I think the Muppets. I think, yeah, that's right. So they both bounce back, okay.
But that's what it says.
Robert Downey Jr. is a comic genius,
making him unfunny stands as SNL's most
towering achievement in terms of sucking.
How do you fuck up a sure thing like Downey?
He's funny in anything.
I mean, dude was funny in weird science, anyway.
He is funny.
Gilbert Goddough-Fried.
Godfreyd was 141. Colin Quinn, like legends,
no McDonald 139. Randy Quaid 138. Sorry, I'm late, Mr. President. It's my favorite wine
from Independence State. Delivered by Randy Quaid. Oh, yeah, right. He's real funny. Again,
I think they sort of say that about him. How do I get to the number one? But yeah, so it's pretty mate. There was so many people like, you know, you just never heard of even in it
But then I would not I would I was
Will 4x52 who's one of the bigger recent ones. I was gonna say 145 has to be a name we've never heard of and that was Robert
Lovets was at 19
I love it. It's at 19.
Oh my God.
Sandler at 17.
Kristen Wigg 14.
Bill Hayder 13.
Will Farrell 12.
Dana Carve 11.
Chevy Chase 10.
Here we go.
On the top 10 now.
Hello, then.
I mean, yeah, it's the kind of thing.
It's like, what is, I mean, this is just someone's opinion.
Gilda Radner at 9.
So you get into absolute legends of the Amy Pollard 8, Phil Hartman at 7,
Bill Murray at 6, Dan Acroed at 5,
Mike Meyers at 14, FAT 3, Eddie Murphy at 2,
and John Belushi at number one, who we've done a report on.
Wow.
Also two of my idols in the top 10.
Yeah, great.
Amy and Tina, amazing.
So good.
Yeah, so that's crazy.
In my mind, I'm like, can't you wait? I mean, the reason they would have done the whole
way and made it a bit bitchier was so it would have got that attention probably by that
mean sort of. And it's still so subjective. So somebody recently ranked all of Paul Kelly's
songs. Wow. And like, I was scrolling through to see what they said was number one.
I was like, I'm not reading your opinion on every single song that's ridiculous.
But I was scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, some of my favorites were like, I was like,
should have been high out.
You know, like, so I was like, this is bullshit.
This is your opinion.
And that's fine.
But I mean, people know, I think they know listicles like that with opinions and especially
with a few slightly dodgy opinions are gonna get shared more.
Can you believe?
Yeah, look at this idiot, this song was number one.
I've been pretty obsessed with Lanarkow and lately, put him up for the vote for this top as well.
He did not get many votes.
Idiots!
Harman won with over 50% of the vote.
He will landslide the D'din.
Dick Van Dyke, I also put up.
Ah, I'm so... that it didn't. Dick Van Dyke also put up. Oh, I'm so...
That wasn't cool.
But yeah, I've been looking at Lanarko,
like his albums ranked and it's the same.
Like they, they, they're like,
he really doesn't have a bad album,
but these are not as good.
I'm like, that album's flawless.
Yeah.
What are you talking about?
Exactly, it's so weird when they're like,
here's this thing ranked.
It's funny to see.
Yeah, oh, this is what music experts think.
What does that mean for me?
Yeah.
Anyway, so I got a little sidetrack there,
but yeah, he's super, as well, talk about now.
He's just super well respected as an SNL alum.
But he joined a cast, and I think the show was really kind of struggling at that
time.
They were burning through a lot of these performers are coming on sometimes a one season.
And there's another weird thing about it is they sort of fighting each other for
on air time.
And that was something that Phil Harman said he really didn't enjoy trying to fight your
friends for screen time.
No, I hate that.
I'm not competitive.
Please write something for me. Very ambitious. Yeah. I'd be like, no, I'll let them have it. It's cool. That's
all good. Well, I'll go straight into that now. He found his eight seasons at SNL
stressful, telling people magazine in a 1995 interview, the rejection and backstabbing could
be painful, but the hardest thing was competing against your friends for airtime. We just sort of sucked.
The New Yorker wrote that Hartman, who was older than many of his peers and professional
by habit, excelled at both lead and supporting roles.
The skills that Hartman had honed in the groundlings made him a key cast member who made everyone
look good and helped to improve the show.
And that because of his steady influence and rock-like presence and
because he helped her to overcome her stage fright, Jan Hooks nicknamed him the glue. Soon
everyone called him that, sometimes chanting it at table reeds when he made the writers
piece of sound good.
Glue, glue, glue.
That's fun. There's another story about how he got the nickname glue, but like that is
definitely his nickname and everyone calls him out.
He was listening to the Al Franken episode
of the Conan O'Brien podcast recently,
and that was before I'd done any of this research,
and he mentions on that,
they were talking about Phil Hartman,
how great he was, and they go,
ah, the glue.
There's still sort of,
that nickname is stuck.
I didn't mean that.
Oh, fantastic.
Didn't mean that entirely.
I was sort of about to say it. And then I'm like,
hmm, I need to say this in a gross tone to make sure everyone knows I don't
believe in it. Harman was perhaps most famous for his impersonations on the show,
such as Bill Clinton and Frank Sinatra. But you may also know him from some of
the original characters he created, such as the anal-retentive chef and the unfrozen caveman lawyer.
And I don't, because I really only know I feel the really famous SNL sketches
and most of them are from after time like the cowbell sketch I've seen a lot.
And a few others, I've tried to watch some best of them.
I'm like, oh, this is the best of.
That's just not, for whatever reason, it's not my kind of- It's definitely not-
It's not this thing either.
Sorry, sorry.
Yeah, but it's obviously a super successful show
that's been going for decades.
But for whatever reason, I'm like,
oh, I expected this to be funnier,
but comedy is subjective.
SNL producer, Lauren Michaels once said,
Phil Hartman, I think, is the least appreciated except here.
So he did not get a lot of love in the media
and that sort of stuff, but internally a lot of love.
Michaels when I'm saying that kind of ability
to do five or six parts in a show
where you're playing support
or you're doing remarkable character work
is different than doing the well-known
or more popular characters.
The people who are becoming big stars instantly from it.
Yeah.
Uh, it was also funny to hear some people were like, he was really one of the only people who were going like,
I can't, I can't do any more parts this week's episode.
Everyone else is like, please give me, give me anything.
I'll take any scraps.
And he's like, I, like everyone's like, I need you in my sketch.
I don't have time to change.
Yeah. But he's like, everyone's like, I need you in my sketch. I don't have time to change. In 1986, Hartman also scored a small role
in iconic comedy, The Three Amigos.
And I was, I don't know, have you seen that recently?
No.
I had to go back and watch it,
but he was like, just a classic Smamy Phil Hartman character.
He's good at Smamy.
He's so good at Smamy.
Over the following 10, also years,
he also appeared on the big screen in Fletch Lives,
loaded weapon, current heads.
So I married an axe murderer, Sergeant Bilko,
and Jingle all the way.
I was first imagining him as a gross boyfriend.
I was like, what is that?
And then I was like, it's Sergeant Bilko.
Yeah.
He's so good in Sergeant Bilco.
So as those, I think as those films went on,
his roles are getting bigger as his sort of star was growing.
And he was like a relatively big character in Bilco
and Jingle all the way.
I think he was played Arnie's neighbor.
Again, sort of like, yeah.
And unlike all sort of neighbor guy.
He plays an asshole so well.
So well.
So he wasn't a lead in any of those films,
but he didn't seem to mind too much telling Jam Showbiz.
It's fun coming in as the second or third lead.
If the movie or TV show bombs, you want to blame?
Hey, I'm the bad guy, the jerky guy.
I did all I could to make it interesting.
The jerky guy character became one of the trademarks
of his career.
According to an article in the Star Tribune, Hartman loved playing these weasley characters.
There were many variations, but were often CD-Vane or otherwise unpleasant.
When asked about his influences, he said, my ultimate favorite was Jackie Gleason's Ralph
Cramden from the Honeymooners.
But I'm a really big fan of Bill Murray.
He's been a great influence on me.
When he did that smarmy thing in Ghostbusters,
then the same sort of thing in Groundhog Day,
I tried to imitate it. I couldn't. I wasn't good enough.
But I discovered an element of something else.
So in a sick kind of way, I made myself a career
by doing a bad imitation of another comic.
I think it's pretty common, like you hear the Rolling Stones, Stones were trying to sound like, you know, like, howling wolf and American blues
musicians. They did it. They didn't, couldn't sound like that, but they sounded slightly different
and that became a big thing in its own way. I think that's pretty common in the word you imitate your heroes and then it spits out a new different thing.
In 1987, like kind of like how you try to imitate me, it's not the same, Jess, but it is a new
great thing. It's its own thing. A lot of people argue better. Yeah, I mean I'm not one of those.
No, but a lot of people. I say equally and differently differently good. No, but, and I know that's what you say,
but a lot of people outside of this room say
that I'm better, I'm not agreeing.
Actually, what am I talking about?
Yeah, I agree.
I think you're definitely funny to me.
We were talking about that for a second.
In 1987, Hartman married Bryn Omdahl,
who mentioned earlier.
And in 1988, they had their first child named Sean.
His second wife, Lisa, who mentioned earlier, recalled quote, he calls me and says, I just
became a father.
And so I wrote a card, dear Phil and Brynn, you know, much, this is her recounting.
There's not a thing that's actually actually wrote the card.
You know, dot, dot, dot, much love from Aunt Lisa.
You know, if you ever need a babysitter, dot, dot, dot, I'm so thrilled for you.
Lisa said she got to let her back that was hair curling, fury, rage and a death threat
from Brynn.
The gist of it was, don't ever fucking get near me on my family or I'll hurt you I never want to hear from you never ever ever come near me or us or you'll be really sorry
Also, I mean, I'm not gonna be asking my ex-wife to babysit am I I'm glad that we have an amicable enough relationship that I can call her
And say I've had a kid and she's and it's got that's very nice
But I like there's on my first choice, you know,
that feels a little bit weird.
That leads to their own.
Yes, yeah, but I would still argue
that that was a strong reply.
Oh, yes, no, I'm just reacting to one thing,
just that part, the letterback completely unnecessary.
Yes, at this point, Phil's career was really starting
to take off, which some of suggested maybe
played in a brins jealousy, who was also an aspiring actor.
Right.
She had done modeling, and she was going for roles,
but didn't get any traction in acting.
Though in the 90s, she would score
a couple of small onscreen roles in the film North and the sitcom Third
Rock From The Sun.
But you know, they were quite minor roles.
Third Rock was a good show.
Great show.
I loved it.
I'm mad John Lithgow.
Can't wait till our spin off.
Do Lithgow on.
He's fantastic.
The best.
I love him.
He can do it all.
He can do it all.
Evil.
Not evil.
He's really.
He's a real ex-
He's a real ex- He's a real ex- He's a real ex- He's a real ex- He's a real ex- He's a real ex- He's really a kid's albums. No, yes, what do you mean songs? Yeah, I think so. Oh, that's so key. I think again
I learned this from Conan O'Brien's podcast. I love it. Maybe WTF. I love how much you learn from that podcast. I learned a lot.
Lovely. It's a great educational tour, tour. Don't. Why are the people
on plugging this huge podcast?
Yeah, don't listen to it.
I'll give you all you need to know here.
Stop giving people.
I've said every interesting thing
that's ever come up on that podcast.
So there you go.
So I don't even bother needing to listen to it.
It doesn't need your help, we do.
It doesn't need your listens.
No, yeah, go back to the start, listen,
I'll ask all over again. Some people have.
Yeah, there was a multiple times.
During his time in SNL Hartman was twice nominated for
Emmys for writing for a musical variety show,
winning in 1989. That's part of the writing team.
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In 1990, Hartman began doing voices on the Simpsons. The most famous of these being three versions of his Weasley archetype. The incompetent lawyer, Lionel Hutz, who gave, I believe,
is your...
We were saying on the Patreon episode, my all-time favorite Simpsons character.
He's amazing.
Also, my all-time favorite Simps's character, and I think maybe probably this
would be almost one of the most common favorites, washed up actor Troy McCluer, and slick monorail
salesman, Lyle Lennley. Oh, that's who was a one-off, but it's such a great character.
It's a great character. Maybe you reappeared some of the time. I can't remember.
I can't remember when I was a kid. I can't remember when I was a kid. I can't remember when I was a kid.
It's a good, it's a great episode. I think I can't remember.
Written by Conan O'Brien. Yeah, amazing. You know I was coming back. I thought I didn't do it once, but it's a great episode. Written by Conan O'Brien.
Yeah, amazing.
You know I wrote that episode?
No, I didn't know that.
And I'd seen it as by a lot of people as the best, if one of the best, if not the best.
No, I don't know if I'm the best.
Can I outrun the flash?
Sure.
Do a man outrun the flash?
I had Macer on primates, podcast do about primates and pop culture last month,
and it was about the flash, and I asked him that question.
I said, Mesa, can you call me an out-round the flash?
I just answered it sincerely.
I don't even know if you knew the reference,
but I'm sure he did, and it was just bored of it.
But it was cool to get an answer on that, finally, a bit of closure.
The creative team at the Simpsons loved Hartman,
filmed the material funnier than we originally imagined.
And I couldn't imagine anyone else doing it
set Al Green, the show's executive producer.
The following is a big chunk from a
Volta article about Hartman by Joe Birkowitz,
which I really enjoyed.
It goes like this.
It is an honor to be invited, This was written in 2010, so some
of this stuff might be slightly out of the deput. It is an honor to be invited as a guest voice
on the Simpsons. Only after you've made it in some way within your chosen field, will this gesture
be extended? Athletes, actors, artists, and architects alike have been written in as guests over
the run of the show. Architects.
That's a good trivia question.
If you name it, that's referencing.
I am pay.
That's a reference to him.
I am impressed.
Anyway, do you want?
All contributing to its Guinness book world record for most guest stars.
Only a fraction of these people, however, have been asked back a second time.
In that regard, Phil Hartman is in an elite class with Albert Brooks, John Lovitz, Kelsey
Grammar, and Joe Montanya as frequent guests.
I mean, they all played.
All of them played great.
Some of the best-get-albert Brooks played Hank Scorpio, I think.
Oh, yes. Oh my god. John Lovitz, the film critic. Yes.
Kelsey Graham, of course, Sajo Bob and Joe Montana are fat Tony, all iconic characters.
So good. I don't know if more in the last 10 years maybe there's been others who have been aspect more or less, but the article goes on as a frequent frequent guest so Phil Hartman was in
a class all of his own.
He was featured in 52 episodes over a period of eight years.
There is a certain quality to the voice that was both high voltage and velvety, a sonic
cocktail that was everything you needed it to be.
The fact that Phil Hartman's voice could sound so anxious and slimy at times meant that
he usually portrayed a villainous rival and family-friendly movies like Small Soldiers
Jingle All the Way in Greedy, but he could also do heroic too.
And in animated form, he was able to explore these types of characters on the Simpsons.
There he played Moses on the mountain, Bart's adopted father Tom.
Oh, another great character I forget about.
Oh yeah!
The Big Brother episode, I think that's what,
is that what that's talking about?
I miss Father, who am I, you meet?
The Drunken Gambler.
So good.
I remember that.
And then he ends up having the Street Fight.
And then he gets,, he gets knocked out
and falls backwards over a fire hydrant.
And he goes, this is even more painful than it looks.
Yeah, okay, I do remember that.
He also obviously played Charlton Heston's likeness
in the musical Stop the Planet of the Ope.
So I want to get off.
Featuring the showstopper, Dr. Zest, Dr. Zest.
Dr. Zest, Dr. Zest. Dr. Zest, Dr. Zest.
He even got the chance to bring his Bill Clinton impression over from Saturday Night
Live for a Halloween episode appearance.
Mostly though, Phil Hartman's contribution to the Simpson consists of two characters,
and these are anything but biblical, heroic or presidential.
In his first appearance of the Simpsons, on the Simpsons, Bart gets hit by a car.
Homer hires bargain-basement attorney Lionel Huts to represent him.
Here's my card, Huts says.
It turns into a sponge if you hold it underwater.
What started off as a barely embellished caricature of an ambulance chasing Shyser eventually
devolved into a down-and-out drunken hobo who also happened to be an attorney.
Huts was meant to be a one-time role, but the staff loved Hartman and wanted to use him
again.
Their next chance came just a couple of episodes later in the form of another new character
in the Simpson's Universe.
We introduced to Troy McCleur as he hosts the TV show, I can't believe they invented
that.
Dave Faves.
This show within a show would frequently pop up
and in brief bits featured washed up actor McCleur
and quack Dr. Nick Riviera,
Hawking Radiculous Products like Spiffy,
a cleaning solvent strong enough to clean the grime
off Edgar Allan Poe's tombstone.
More often than infomercials,
so Troma Claw would be glimpse starring in random educational
videos filmed at various points in his career. Whenever there was an opportunity to include an
instructional video of any kind, the Simpsons producers could always plug in Phil Hartman and get a laugh
out of his perpetually challenging catchphrase, hi, I'm Troma Cler. He would always start. You might remember me from such educational
films as Lead Paint, Delicious, but Deadly. And here comes the metric system. According
to interviews, Troy McCluer was Hartman's favorite character of all the characters he ever
did. And he used to entertain the crew on the set of his posts as an L show news radio by doing the Choi McCleur voice in between takes.
I saw on an interview him saying that his favorite fans are Choi McCleur fans.
Such a good character.
As we said at our nightlife, Phil Hartman played the background a lot in the Simpsons, but
he also had a couple of moments in the spotlight, including one of the widely agreed upon
greatest episodes of all time, the Conan O'Brien scripted Marge vs. The Monorail, where he played Lyle Lannley, the colorful
singing swindler based on the music man.
He also apparently played the music man on stage in College Orte.
Oh, cool.
Early in his life.
And I'm pretty sure if I'm remembering right, isn't the music man, is that the one that's
said in Gary, Indiana?
Oh, I don't know.
I'm not being used to this with someone else. This stuff from the Vultra article, another starring
performance of his came in the fish called Selma episode, which is, did we do it?
I think we did. That was the stop the point of the episode. Yeah. And we did a, we did
an episode, David and I did an episode of Primate to about that episode. Oh, great. That's
one very Mary Selma. Yeah. I. I love lips. I love my wife.
I love lips.
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and embarrassing sexual proclivity involving marine life. I was vaguely based on Richard Ghee
you were telling me in the hamstring or whatever. Yeah, there was rumors about that.
But it's like this weird rumor about Richard Ghee that he was like jirbling, sorry.
Oh. And this was sort of a spoof of that where it was fish. Are you gay?
I wish.
But in 1994, the cast members Hartman joined SNL with, apart from Kevin Neal and have moved
on to other projects.
And the cast now included other heavy hitters such as Mike Myers, Adam Sandler and Chris
Farley.
So he was, he shared the screen with some of the, you know, the biggest ones in those
A.C.
He was multi-generational.
Yeah, yeah.
Hartman told the LA Daily News that he felt like an athlete who's watched all his world
series teammates get traded off to in other directions.
It was hard to watch them leave because I sort of felt we were all part of the team that
saved the show.
I think it was really struggling that they brought it back and wrote everything. Soon after he left the show also, according to the New
Yorker, quote, after his final episode, Thomas Rides, the cast and crew gathered
around and presented him with a gift, a token of deep appreciation for his
outstanding service that made him tear up. It was a small pedestal top with a bottle of wood glue is the glue. That's nice. Harman developed
his own variety show, the Phil show. I love and I think NBC was right on board with it but it fell
through in the end, it wasn't picked up. I think NBC said that it was, those variety shows,
they just weren't working anymore or something like that.
They went with his nemesis, Dr. Phil.
They, um, he, I think he has said that he kind of, after he was like, he's kind of a relief because
he would have had to have sweat blood every week to make it work.
Yeah.
In 1995, he signed on to co-star in a new NBC sitcom and said called News Radio.
Do you remember that?
I used to watch it.
I remember enjoying it.
It vaguely rings a bell.
Yeah, he was sort of the slick talkback radio host.
Right.
But there was a bunch of other people in on the show. So the news
radio focused on the staff of the New York City news radio station with an ensemble
cast that also included Dave Foley, Steven Root, Andy Dick, Joe Rogan, who's our huge
podcaster, more a terny, Vicky Lewis and Candy Alexander. Yeah, I do remember the show
vaguely. He along with Bren and their two children
Sean and Bergen moved from New York to Encino, California, which is where he started working
on that show. His character was the smug radio announcer named Bill McNeil. Another smug
classic smug character. Yeah, I wonder what, I mean, he plays that smarmy character so well.
It's a bit like, because Adam Scott is another one
who plays an asshole super well.
And then you see him in a nice role, and you're like,
what?
Yeah, you're waiting for the twist.
It's really confusing.
Well, you say interviews with him, and he seems like,
he's quite dry, but he seems really nice.
I was like, I don't know how to feel.
I think Phil Hartman's one of those right.
I kind of, I assume he's a prick.
Oh, right.
You know, because that's all I've seen him do.
I'm a great actor, please.
Yeah, exactly.
He's probably, well, I don't know.
You might be like a, might've been a lovely person.
Yeah, well, it sounds like, I mean, who knows for sure, but it sounds like, if he was
like, he wasn't, maybe he wasn't the best of relationships, but it sounds like, I mean, who knows for sure, but it sounds like he wasn't, maybe it wasn't the best relationship,
but it sounds like everyone, his friends are all like,
oh, he's just a lovely, really,
really dad-a-worth normal guy.
I mean, people wouldn't have been so appreciative
of working with him and his writing and his talent
if he was an asshole.
You're not getting called the glue.
Yeah, like, you gotta be so,
like Chevy Chase was also brilliant on SNL,
but he wasn't getting bought gifts that I think were.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was sort of famously disliked.
He was giving glue when they asked him to,
glue his mouth shut.
Yeah, it's quite different.
So yeah, he must have been lovely,
but I just see him as a prick.
And then the other part of that is like,
oh, he's worked so hard on the show.
You know, you read some, like, everyone's got their theories,
about things afterwards, and that's getting into the sort of the weird gossipy stuff,
but they'd be like, maybe it was too focused on the work and not enough on his home life and stuff,
but, you know, like, no one knows, apart from the people in a relationship really.
Of course.
Critics like the show, News Ready, Like I got all positive reviews, basically.
But it struggled to find an audience and NBC moved its airtime around the grid, which really
frustrated Hartman.
He did say, like early on, he was like, he hated, he's like, like, just, you're killing
its chances by moving around, which I know is a thing.
But then he later on, he said, hey, you know, this isn't brain surgery.
It's just a comedy show.
It's not no big deal, so.
According to CBS, it had several brushes with cancellation
and was surprisingly renewed for a fifth season in 1998.
So, you know, a sitcom that gets five seasons
is quite a big success,
but it was the kind of thing, kind of like Mike Myers.
It seemed like they were always assuming that it might, it would probably get canceled at the end of this season. It's not quite a big success, but it was the kind of thing, kind of like Mike Myers. It seemed like they were always assuming that it would probably get cancer at the end of
this season.
It's not quite rating high enough, but then I will get another year and we'll have
a year.
CBS also noted that quote, Harman had as many hobbies as careers, an avid surfer, fisherman
and scuba diver.
He loved sailing and owned as many as three boats at once.
More boats than the Iraqi Navy he once observed.
Good observation.
He played guitar, often jamming with fellow SNL cast members,
Dana Carvey, who played guitar and drums
and love it's on keyboard.
And took up flying a plane when he was in his 40s.
You've never seen in Wayne's World where Garth
just trades on the drums.
He's not really shredding on drums is it, but he just has that massive drum solo.
Yeah.
That was Dana Carvey.
Yeah, right.
That was him really playing.
Yeah.
He whales.
I like to play.
I like to play.
To play.
Tagline for that movie is you laugh, you'll cry, you'll hurl.
You're.
That was a trivia question, you know?
Online trivia I played last week.
If you're gonna spew, spew into this.
I like to play.
Brin continued to battle with drug addiction is wife.
And during the news radio Christmas party, 1997,
Hartman's co star Andy Dick gave Brin some cocaine after she asked if he had any.
Apparently, I think, supposedly, she was on,
she had been on a break and sort of recovery.
Hartman's friend John Love,
it's blamed Dick for Bryn relapsing,
though Dick told 2020 that she was already in relapse mode,
which I didn't even know she had a problem
with at all in the first place.
But yeah, that's the thing that I think Andy Dick and John love it still.
They've had it like a this is big falling out.
According to the New Yorker, Brynn started drinking and using cocaine and they fought
Hartman like buying cars boats and even a plane and then piloting them away from his family often with a friend to one wine.
This is quite passivity, not saying I would write, and his love of smoking pot could be
alienating and frustrating.
Brin became increasingly unhappy.
He had guns, Brin had a gun.
Sometimes when she wanted to argue with him before bed, he pretended to be asleep.
The exact details of what happened on the night of May 20th. This is where we
get to the, just as a like a little buffering case, any, if no one listens to it with
the kids, but in case there's a little warning for you, for those out there in La La Land,
which is what I call listener listener land. The A's are silent. Listen, ah, listen, ah land.
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The exact details of what happened on the night of May 27, 1998
and into the early hours of the following day remain somewhat of a mystery.
But according to the ABC News Report,
quote, this is all from the news report.
Bryn Hartman went out for drinks that night with her friend Christine Zander before driving
over to her friend and former lover Ron Douglas's house at around 10-15 pm.
Douglas declined ABC News' request for comment, but according to what he told police, Brin
Hartman had a few beers and complained to him about her husband.
He told police she left his house around 12.45am,
got into her car and returned home. Sean Hartman would reportedly later tell police that he heard
sounds he likened to the slamming of a door. At 3.45 as Ron Douglas would recount to police,
he was awoken by someone's pounding at the front door. It was Bren. She told Ron, I killed Phil.
I don't know why.
Douglas told police he didn't believe it first,
but then a gun fell out of Bren's purse.
He took it away from her and put it in the trunk of his car.
The two drove in separate cars back to the Hartman home,
where Douglas found Phil's body in his bed.
Police would later discover he had been shot three times. Ron stepped away
in the hallway to call 911, and then he discovered Brennan locked herself in the master bedroom.
It was about 6am and the quiet street of Encino, California was suddenly swarming with police,
news cameras, and a gathering crowd of onlookers. Ron handed the gun to police, but had no
idea if there were any other weapons in the house.
As nine-year-old Sean and six-year-old Bergen were being whisked to safety, another shot
rang out.
When police reached the master bedroom, they were greeted with silence.
We go through the door, we find a man lying on the bed, he has a bullet hole through
his forehead.
There's a woman lying next to him and she also has a gunshot wound responding LAPD officer Daniel Karnahan said,
looking at the bodies it's obvious
that they were not alive.
Brinne had killed herself after taking Phil's life,
which was hours earlier.
For me, is one of the most tragic scenes.
Hartman had actually experienced the American dream
that most people don't get to experience Karnahan said.
To have that taken away in this fashion seems so contradictory and
so out of place and so on fear. Los Angeles County Medical Examiner Craig Harvey
later determined that Bryn Hartman had a blood alcohol level of 0.12 as well as
cocaine and Zolloft in our system that night. I think Zolloft is a at some sort
of prescription medicine. Greg Ombdahl said the murder suicide was like getting punched in the gut
because I knew my sister would never murder anyone. It was such a hard thing to face.
A year after the murder suicide, Greg Omdahl filed a wrongful death lawsuit against FIZ. How do you
say it's at FIZER? Yeah. It's like one of those big pharmaceutical companies.
So he sued them, the maker of Zoloft, on behalf of the Hartman estate.
Omdahl said, I did file a lawsuit against FIZER, alleging that the use of Zoloft caused
my sister to not know what she was doing, and she shot her husband.
And when she came out of that, she shot herself.
When the lawsuit was filed in 1999,
Pfizer gave a stamen to sell on health that quote,
there's no scientific or medical evidence
that Zolloff calls as violent or suicidal behavior.
The suit was set of $100,000,
and there was no admission of any wrongdoing.
Well, yeah, I mean, combined with cocaine
and a lot of alcohol, you can't blame one of those things.
Yes.
You know, it's the cocktail of all of them and...
And her personal makeup and all, like so many things.
Exactly.
So many things.
The scenario and like...
It's so tragic and awful.
I know, I think.
But I don't think you can still a pharmaceutical company for that.
It's such a...
I don't know why I was not prepared
into the, I'm like, Phil Harman,
this is gonna be a fun episode.
And I did, even though I did in the back of my mind,
I knew it ended tragically,
but I didn't, so it wasn't,
didn't prepare myself for it.
I'd forgotten how.
Right.
So, yeah, that's awful.
And this is so dumb that this is what I thought of.
But when she's banging on the
friend's door I was like who's with the kids right that's my thought yeah yeah I killed feel and I'm
like who's with the kids yeah yeah well no one at that point shit yeah so then nine and eight
nine and six or something the kids yeah. Yeah, orphaned in a nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had some, this article had some quotes from there.
And I'm just like, a too heartbreaking.
Yeah, good call there, I think.
Brind sister Kathy, you know, husband, this is kind of a nice thing.
Brind sister Kathy and her husband raised both Sean and Bergen in the Midwest.
So that, you know, they were able to be raised both Sean and Bergen in the Midwest. So that, you
know, they were able to be raised by their uncle and auntie.
Yeah, by family.
Back in the Midwest, which I believe is like, you know, it'd be getting right away from
the wild.
Yeah.
Holy would lifestyle and all that sort of stuff.
A little bit of anonymity.
Yeah.
Hopefully.
And Greg Omdahl said that they grew up as loved children. By 2019, Sean was 31, so this is an
from an article last year, by 2019, Sean was 31 and pursuing his dreams of being an artist and
musician and Bergen was 27, recently married and had started a business that's doing really well
according to Greg Omdahl. So, you know, obviously you never get over, but they've got sounds like they've got
things together as much as I can.
Greg added, I believe my sister would be very proud of how Sean and Bergen have grown
up and the people they've turned into.
News radio, which had only been renewed for a fifth season, just prior to that tragic
night, did a memorial episode and brought in John Lovitz into the cast. only been renewed for a fifth season, just prior to that tragic night.
I did a memorial episode and brought in John Lovitz into the cast due to his
closeness to Hartman and as a way for the show to try and cope with his loss.
According to Heavy.com, in August 2014 Hartman was awarded a posthumous star
on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. His brother John accepted the honor on Phil's
behalf.
Hartman's former SNL co-stars, Love It's and Kevin Neal and Ron Han to speak about
their late friend. Hartman's longtime agent, Betty Fanning McCann, was also there to honor
him. Phil Hartman was very loved by Hollywood and we are thrilled that he's being honored
with his own star. This man made millions laugh for years and will always be treasured,
said Leeron Goobler. Great name. Hollywood Chamber of Commerce,
President and CEO at the time. So I'm John, I'm ending with some some
slightly more. Yeah. The name Goobler is amazing. Yeah. Yeah, I love that very much.
Leeron Goobler. How old was Phil? Do you know? Uh, even ballpark. He was so he died in 98 was born in 47. So
50 51 51. Yeah, right. Packed a lot into a to a life. Yeah, amazing. Yeah. One of those guys was like
like, oh, you designed iconic bands, album covers. So you did that was your whole creed. Oh, you designed iconic bands, album covers. So you did that was your whole create. Oh no, you just squeezed that in early.
Yeah.
And kind of a slow burner too, you know?
Yeah, he didn't.
Just always something happening.
Yeah, that's right.
But not like, you know, you're leading man.
That's the kind of life I would want.
I love to be in the chorus.
Yeah.
You know, someone else be the star, sure.
But I'm here, you still.
Well, it's kind of what you're on the show, Dave and I are the stars.
I was gonna say Dave.
I was thinking the same joke, but I was gonna say Dave's the star, obviously.
I thought it was funny if I was like a bit...
...dye.
What am I thinking there? What's that word, dye?
It's like diluted.
But it's not diluted.
Diluted.
Diluted.
You'll dilute it.
I'm so diluted.
I'm so close.
Diluted? No. I'm so looted. I'm so close. I'm looted. No, I'm so looted.
I'm so close.
I'm looted.
No, I'm looted.
That's not that would be fun if I was deludedly thinking of myself.
Where as I know that you two are really the chorus and you two are the star.
Okay.
Happy now.
No, because now you're just fishing for us to say.
No, no.
No, Matt.
You're all the star.
Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. You're all the star. I'm sorry. for us to say no Matt you're gonna shut up that's just a trivial shut up shut up shut up
y'all the stars shut up
silence a woman no I was
taking that a day but if you
also heard it then great you two
stars you probably don't hear
that a lot no one says no to you
today so I don't know yes man
me yes man great movie great
movie well probably a stretch for a real fun movie. It's a fine movie to
check on. It's super underrated. I think it's got so many funny moments because it's got Reese
Derby in it who just carried the whole way through Jim Caries. Oh, he does and also great.
Bradley Cooper plays like a small role. Yeah. Wild. He's a good sort of straight man character in it.
There's some great scenes where Kerry's drunk and the fight.
People are listening on, you know, like Saturday Night Live,
but you're like, yes, man.
I'm about to pissing some people up.
Well, I can't get a handle on what you think is good.
This quote goes on, sorry.
There's so much to say about this man,
so deserving of this recognition.
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he was a smart improviser and his nickname was glue because he held the sketches together.
If one of us messed up, he covered for us, he was brilliant.
As a final note, here is another excerpt from Joe Berkowitz's Vulture article. I'll
finish with this paragraph.
After Phil Hartman's untimely death in May of 1998,
the producers of the Simpsons wisely decided not to find a replacement
for the characters of Troy McClure or Lionel Huts.
This move was both a display of respect to the actor
and an admission that he was impossible to replace.
Wow.
Although he was nicknamed the glue for his work on Saturday Night Live,
Pap's Hartman was also the secret weapon that kept the Simpsons together too.
In order to maximize Hartman's limited availability, nearly every episode that featured Lionel
Huts also featured Troy McCleur and Vice-Berse.
Thus guaranteeing at least a couple of bankable extra laughs in every episode.
That may not seem like a lot, but it adds up. Phil Hartman was undoubtedly part of the reason why seasons
two to nine of the Simpsons are rarely thought to be the show's best years.
It's no coincidence. I didn't get that makes sense to me as well. I mean, there was a lot of factors,
but it was a big part of it. Yeah, definitely. And it is so tragic that he died but it does also keep those characters
in those golden years. Yeah. Rather than every other characters now,
been in a lot of shitty episodes. Yeah. But those two characters never in an unfunny,
ungold. That amazing. Because I was thinking about originally, I was like, well if you died,
how did, how did, but they didn't keep going going? Yeah, but we've just seen those episodes so much.
Yeah.
That's it.
Wow.
And you remember them so well, you're like,
oh, he's in so many episodes.
They play through our minds a lot.
Yeah, yeah.
And on this show, they play through our minds a lot.
My other favorite character is Duffman.
Oh, Duffman's great.
Duffman, can't bring it.
Oh, no.
I did have a list of all of his you may know him from titles.
I can read a few of them.
I love him.
Or maybe we could use a few of them for the Patreon show.
Oh yes.
Oh great.
That's great.
Can I just ask as well if you know, is Duffman and Disco stew the same actor?
Oh I think they might be.
Yeah.
In my head, they say.
And that's one of the key cast. Yeah, it sounds like Hank is our real be, yeah. In my head, they say. And that's one of the key cast, isn't it?
Yeah, it sounds like Hank is our real.
Oh, yeah.
But anyway, I guess this is means it's now time for everyone's
favorite section of the show, the Fat Quotal Question section,
which has a jingle just, I think, or something,
a little like.
Fat Quotal Question.
Be.
Oh, a little late their day, but.
I never forgets the
thing.
Oh, it's getting, can I quickly say?
While we're still talking Simpsons, this is quickly.
Of course.
The fact check at the end of the episode.
Frank Gary was the first architect to appear on the Simpsons.
Oh, who is his role?
He probably self-believe.
When he scrunched up the paper, is that,
it, something was like a scrunched up piece of paper.
Yes, the scrunched up piece of paper, yes.
I don't remember that.
He scrunched up, some really scrunched up a piece of paper
and that was like, oh, that's a crit design.
Oh.
Because his buildings look pretty well.
Yeah, I hope so.
I think that's on the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the Costinian. In Bilbao, yeah.
All right. Well, the fact-quoid or quick,
Haji's our Simpson's fact checker who does a column weekly on our Patreon.
Jacob Lane.
Jacob Lane is good as work cut out from this week.
Oh, sorry, Jacob.
Sorry, Jacob.
Feel free to pick a few, I guess.
Yeah, you really, you feel free to have a week off,
if you're like this.
Yeah, sorry about that.
I feel like a thing that must now have become a burden to him.
Yeah, you can stop anytime.
We love it, but there is no pressure.
Of course.
I was thinking today because I've just seen the first one,
we are banking up a few of these fact-quite-of-questions.
I was thinking, because I'm just looking the next few,
or facts, so how about we do four this week?, because I'm just looking at the next few of facts.
So how about we do four this week?
You be up for that?
Four facts.
Four facts.
The next four fact-quadal questions are all facts.
But that depends.
Are you, like, you have to check.
You're gonna decide if they're fun or not.
Okay, yeah, sure.
I was gonna say you've got to stay on track and just like.
Yes, oh yeah, I'll stay on track,
but we've still got to give them their time.
Of course, of course.
They've been waiting patiently.
So in this section, you go to patreon.com
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We've now got three bonus episodes on a certain tier on the fact
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That was only, you know, it was,
I said it was a landslide,
but it was still only like 15, 20 votes,
that's separate.
And that's a landslide, usually in this one,
because there's not that many voters,
every vote is worth quite a bit.
But yeah, you get to give yourself a title in this as well.
While somebody else also should mention is you get into our Facebook group,
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There's a lot of discussion every day.
There's posts, listeners, or patrons posts and chat to each other.
Some of those patrons have started a weekly Zoom catch up,
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Joe, I always feel like, you know,
it feels like I'm the teacher coming in
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Hey, guys, how's it going?
I'm like, oh, hey, you're mad.
Hi, Mr. Stewart.
No, we weren't.
I'm smoking bombs.
All right.
But it's cool. It's fun. I'm jumping in on this thing and it's like, oh, there's someone from Canada, someone from
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There's just people from all around the globe.
Amazing.
So that's if you, I mean, that's not an official reward, but that is just a cool bonus
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And just an example of why it's a cool community in there. Just a real cool, fun place.
And yeah, I'm seeing people in there saying,
oh, this is my happy place.
Anyhow, it's a cool group and yeah, there's so many rewards.
Too many to mention, just so I'm gonna keep on track.
I have done that.
So here's a few facts from our fact-quotal question
as this week, firstly, coming from the junior comp-trauler
of consuming media, it's Paul Jacob.
Paul Jacob.
I love comp-trauler.
Where's that from?
They use it in the Simpsons.
It's not an Australian term, is it?
It's not an American thing.
I don't know what it means.
Yes, assuming intended charms is always scared
of the comp-trauler.
Who must be next step up above the Sibbon Intender.
It's probably like the ombudsman.
Which I never know what they do.
You know, what's the fact?
His fact is, I love to go on.
That is all.
That is a sink fact.
And I'm going to say a fun one.
That's fun.
Paul Jacob, officially fun.
Great fact.
And thank you so much for all your great work as junior
controller of consuming media.
You doing God's work and we really do appreciate it.
I'd also love to thank the general manager
of not able to have nice things.
It's a Maximilian Duke.
Maximilian Duke.
Maximilian Duke.
Your name is real God damn it.
God damn it.
Congratulations, congratulations.
Congratulations you.
I was so say congratulations your parents for us.
And I all like, I could say was congrats.
Congrats.
Congrats.
Anyway.
Daddy show.
Daddy show.
Can you scratch?
Maximilian writes,
I use a spoon to apply very spread,
soft cheeses, jambs, et cetera, to breads.
You might think this is weird.
Why not use a knife or a spreader, like a civilized person? What's a spreader? Well, the convex side
of a spoon possesses the perfect ergonomics for putting peanut butter on bread without
having to lift it off a plate or risk dropping a cracker because you hold it awkwardly to
get all the pimento cheese off a knife. It is especially great for putting cream cheese
on a hot bagel, Love a schmere.
Sandy go and taught us that.
Perfect way to schmere a bagel without burning your hand.
Trust me, give it a try.
Is this the fact?
Anyway, that's just the fact about me.
Tell me something interesting about you.
Oh, and in case anyone, brackets and mat question mark,
is wondering what the convex side of the spoon is?
I reckon I know what the
Come on mate. I'm play dumb, but I actually am probably the smartest person in this room right now
Anyway, I'm guessing this for listeners in case anyone doesn't get it at home. It's the bottom of the spoon
I thought it was a handle soup
I think this road is smarter than you
Basically, it's the spoons under carriage.
Oh, he's explained his explanation.
The bottom side when you're eating soup wasn't enough.
Let me put it in a real terms you might understand.
It's the spoons under carriage,
which would also be a good band name.
The spoons under carriage.
I think under carriage in general would be a good band,
so just under carriage.
Spoon is a good band already. Okay. Maybe a good cover band. Spoon cover band is Spoon
undercarriage. Carriage. I went to my parents place yesterday and we ate with a splades,
which is fun blast from the past. The superior spork in my mind, because it also has a nice
the superior spork in my mind, because it also has a nice, nice edge.
Anyway, finished by saying thanks for the laughs.
Thank you for the facts, Maximilian Duke,
that fact about spoon as spreaders.
Any thoughts on that, Dave?
Keep smearing the, I agree with them, maybe the smear.
I use it for evercada on toast.
Yeah, evercada.
You scoop it from the bowl,
because I've obviously smashed the avocado.
And then you can get a scoop of it and then go flink and flick it on and then spread it
out with the other, with whatever the fuck he said, the other side of the spoon.
The carriage, the undercarriage, please.
The Budwa.
Whatever the fuck.
I'm sorry if I sound a bit diluted here, but.
I just say the spoons bomb bomb. I
do I recognize because I'm all about um lessening washing up so I'm I'll use the spoon if
they if I've already used the spoon I'll keep that spoon out for spreading for sure.
Great. Because you can scoop out some spreadables easier with the spoon too anyway.
Thanks for that fact Maximilian Duke is that fun fun? Oh, it was a fact about him, and it was a fun fact.
Great.
Next up, Chief Bison Wrangler, North East Division.
Oh.
This is from Luke Durham, love that title.
I think I've said this on the record,
Bison one of my favorite animals.
Did a year seven project for geography
about the North American
Boston big fan. I love. Was it a poster? I love. Yeah, it was a poster. I love a
thick animal. Yeah. That's why I love one that's on average. This is fact on average
slots. Travel 41 yards per day, meaning they would be excellent pets for self
isolation. That's a great fun fact.
But I mean,
So what, they can't go far?
They can't.
They're so freaky.
I don't know if I want to be,
They're weird.
Have one in my house, apart from, you know,
crawl to your water with other animals.
But they just, they also move in a creepy way.
Imagine waking up and seeing a really slow moving shadow
next to your bed like that.
Actually, that'd be great.
Your problem is that it's not thick enough.
Not thick enough.
They're of the opposite.
They're spindly.
I am.
I'm enough spindly in one house, okay?
What do they eat?
Sloths.
Yeah.
Have to be if it's another animal, it'll have to be a slow one.
I don't think they ate other animals.
Well, then most plants are pretty slow.
Yeah, that's true.
Thank you for that fact, Luke, fun or not?
Fun.
Oh my god, we're on a hard streak.
The patrons are on today.
Let's see, let's round it out number four.
Finally, with fact four, from the director
of craft services for do-goGo on, Matthew Boer,
your work will not go on, thanks.
Yeah, we love craft services.
Boer, B-O-A-R, Boer.
B-O-A-R.
He's a real Boer.
Some people who think is, some people are Boers.
He's given us a fact.
For the original Terminator, oh, this would be up to you.
I'll be a big fan of you.
You haven't seen Terminator yet?
No.
I haven't.
Don't yourself.
Sorry.
I'll watch it.
When you watch back to the future trilogy, I'll think about it.
All right, watch number one.
I've watched one.
You watch one.
Okay.
I'll watch two.
I think both of them, too, is the classic.
True.
Although I do like, I love the next future one.
I think it goes in order for me,
two, one, three. That'd be the same with our terminal.
Oh, there you go. Uh, not die hard. Yeah, die hard is one's the
best. Yeah, yeah, because it's got the best bad guy.
Oh, for the shit. Oh, that's so different. That's lethal
weapon. I'm just saying.
Oh, you feel harmer was in the sp That's lethal weapon. I'm just saying. I don't think we're going to get shit.
I mean, Phil Harman was in the spoof of loaded weapon.
So this is from Matthew Boer.
He offers us this fact for the original Terminator.
A lot of actors were being looked at for the role before Arnold Schwarzenegger became the iconic Terminator.
Along one of the suggested...
Among one of the suggested people to play the role was OJ Simpson.
Whoa.
James Cameron didn't believe he could play a convincing killer.
Oh, wow.
That is pretty great if true.
OJ never did any screen testing though Arnold was under the assumption for years.
OJ was closer being the lead, even saying that James Cameron had done a painting
with OJ's face on a Terminator poster, then painting over it with Arnold's face. He painted
his own movie posters? That's the fact. That's a, you buried the lead there.
He's, because he's the one in the Titanic. The drawing of Rose. That is James Cameron.
He's drawing. No kidding. He's a good artist here. That's right, Dave. That is James Cameron. He's drawing.
No kidding.
He's a good artist here.
That's right Dave.
That's a fun fact.
Thank you.
So he wrote himself into a scene
to draw Naked Kate Winslet.
Basically.
Wow.
It's a different time, hey.
Different time.
There are all the fact-quotal questions
for this week. A fantastic array of facts. Can I just say number four? Different time. There are all the fact-quotal questions for this week.
A fantastic array of facts.
Can I just say number four, fun fact.
We did it.
Four out of four.
And a bonus in there, the James Cameron panacea's own poster.
Five out of four.
Wow, that'd be bad.
So good.
Oh, that brings us to thanking our other Patreon supporters.
You can get involved in this if you're on the certain level there
I think it's the five buck level and DB Cooper level I think I'll be a little bit cooler level
And this week I'd love to kick it off
But we're gonna I'll give him a couple of their own titles. Yes, please
Awesome, and I'm starting with
Who's been waiting patiently since October 2018 from Melbourne, Victoria,
it's Miss Alexandra Joy. What a name. A name that is, I'd say, pretty happy. How does a happy
name, Miss Joy? And you might know Miss Joy from such films as the boat jacking of Super Ship 79,
calling all Quakers, the Echie and Scratchy movie,
the contrabulous fabtrapson of Professor Horatio Huffnagle,
Cryuma and David versus Super Goliath.
That's whoa.
Have you got one that long for all of them?
Well, I've just got a list. I can read as many as you want.
That's sick.
Alexandra Joy.
Thank you for bringing the joy.
Thank you, Alexandra Joy.
Thank you so much for waiting patiently.
Thank you so much for your ongoing support.
It means a lot. You keep the show running, legend.
And from our own hometown, love that.
Thank you, Miss Joy.
I'd also love to thank from Calabassus
in the United States of America in CA,
which is California, right?
California.
California.
California.
I'd love to thank Larry first.
Yes, and who's second?
The hype was so high.
Oh, hi.
You might know Larry first for such films as Dile M for murderousness, the electric jiggleo,
the erotic adventures of Hercules give my remains to Broadway.
Gladys the Groovy Moo, the good time slim Uncle Dooby and the great frisco freak out and
Alice doesn't live here anymore. No, Alice doesn't live anymore
Thanks Larry
Couple of fantastic names to kick off. I doubt you'll be out of topic, but I'd love to see you have an attempt
Can I have a crack please but I'd love to see you have an attempt. Can I have a crack? Please.
I would love to thank from Nottingham in Great Britain.
I would love to thank MR Smith.
Oh, MR Smith.
Not MR, MR.
Oh, MR Smith.
You might know him from such films as Make Out King of Montana.
Meet Joe Blue, the Muppets go Medieval, P is Fissaco, preacher with a shovel. The president's neck is missing. Or radioactive man, one,
two and three, including bring on the sequel and oh God, not again. And of course, the revenge
of Abe Lincoln.
That's funny that it's,
that became an even more ridiculous film
in real life that Abraham Lincoln vampire killer.
Sounds like Troy McCluver.
That's great.
Thank you so much, MR Smith.
Thank you so much.
And I would also love to thank
from Holyhead in Wales.
Keerin Desmond. Oh,. Keiran Desmond.
On your Keiran?
On your Keiran.
Fantastic Keiran.
It is so good to make your acquaintance
and the others, of course,
would know him from the seven-year-old bitch.
Sorry.
Like the seven-Ear-Each.
Oh, so you're all bitch.
It's good.
You know, it's in James Cameron painting the poster.
Oh my goodness.
Sorry, I've lost my place.
That was so good.
Sorry, wrong closet, which is one of the ones that he said on on Letterman room
Suddenly last supper they came to Bergle and
Today we kill tomorrow we die
I'm gonna give you a couple more the verdict was male fraud and the wackiest covered wagon covered wagon in the West
Fantastic, so Kieran K, congratulations on an amazing filmography.
Such fine work.
Well, can we thank one Keirin and then thank another
from Leicester in Great Britain,
I would like to thank Keirin Foster.
Keirin Foster.
Keirin Foster.
Two two, great.
Well, I've still got heaps actually.
Well, you might know, Kiran, from such educational films
and self-help videos as 60 minutes of car crash victims,
adjusting your self-host stat.
Alice's adventure through the window with a windshield glass.
Birds, our fine feathered colleagues,
the decapitation of Larry Ledford, our fun, feathered colleagues, the decapitation of Larry Ledfoot, designated drivers, the
life-saving nerds, dig your own grave and save.
Ewigs, ew, firecrackers, the silent killer.
Ewigs, ew, I can hear in his voice that it would have been amazing.
Fuzzy bunny's god to you, you know what?
She's making it.
And get confidence, stupid.
Oh, Kieran, fantastic stuff.
You have a fantastic filmography.
And finally, I would like to thank
from Herne Hill in Western Australia,
Curtis, Dylan, Berenic.
You might know Curtis from such educational films as The Half-Hast approach to Foundation
Repair.
Like a room towel fights, the blinding of Larry Driscoll.
Man vs Nature, the road to victory.
Meet and you, partners in freedom, meet Spelt.
I mean, I see, that one's real.
Mummy, what's wrong with that man's face?
Mothballing your battleship.
Fony tornado alerts, alerts reduce readiness.
Shoplifters, beware, smoke yourself thin.
And someone's in the kitchen with DNA.
LAUGHTER
And of course, whoa, don't touch me there.
LAUGHTER
Thanks, Curtis.
Thank you, Curtis. There's so many good ones. One of my favorites is
the greatest story ever, Hulled. I skipped one because I didn't know how to pronounce it.
It's about Hulla whooping. Is that it? Great. The greatest story ever, Hulled.
That's so good. I'd fully did not get that. The's a great story ever, who would have spelled HUL AED.
I'm like, what is that mean?
Well, yeah, I'm gonna go and watch a best of Lionel Hut on YouTube now.
Oh, Lionel. That's so good.
I wasn't wearing a tie at all.
Thank you to all of those great supporters. Thank you. We love your work. And like we say,
you keep the bloody show running. But maybe even more so, the triptage club, a very exclusive club,
for people who have been supporting us, like those good people, we just read out. But for three,
you're straight, which to be honest, some of them are getting close to because it's taken us so
long to read out their names.
Let me just while I check if anyone has been inducted into the triptych exclusive club
today, Dave John explain what it is and Jess, what are they eating and drinking?
So there's people that have been supporting the show at the shout out level for three consecutive
years, so 36 months without dropping off. My goodness, we tip our hats to thee and also induct you into this exclusive
club. And usually for the people that already in on the new inductees, Jess organizes a fantastic
menu. Sometimes food, sometimes there's drinks, sometimes there's both. Hmm. And this week, we are honoring our star of the show Dave Warnakie with his favorite drink,
a pinocolata.
Oh, thank you so much.
Yeah.
If you like pinocolatas, I do.
That song is fucked.
It is not.
It's not good.
The opening line is, I was tired of my lady.
We'd been together too long.
I was tired of my lady. We'd been together too long. I was tired of my lady.
Like a worn out recording of your favorite song.
It's brutal, but at the time they had, she was sick of him as well.
And then they got together again.
Yeah. Very confusing. Anyway, so we're having Pena colladas and then
to complement that deep-fried pineapple.
Ooh, fritters.
Pineapple fritters.
Yum yum.
And also, what a tropical holiday.
Because of the days.
I don't go at all, but that's just what we have on the menu.
Oh, well, I mean, these are all being added
to the menu as well, right?
Oh, yeah, it's an extensive menu.
Who's playing in the corner?
We actually have our Rupert Holmes playing
his peanut colladas song on loop. Oh
But you don't get sick of it. Oh great. Like an old like your favorite song
Everyone's like yes played again Rupert. That's funny because I was born sick of it
It's a magical place if you you have half a brain, very patronizing. Have you
like me? I've never met you tonight. He's just making love a midnight. I've got to
get to work tomorrow. He's kind of sitting a low standard in some
place there. If you've got half a brain. Yeah. And you're not into yoga. All right.
Well, fuck. parody song. My guy, that's a weird stipulation, but sure. What about parody song?
Have you like making love on midnight.
They're fun.
Man, I'm confident we'd else beating you to that one.
Is that true?
Sure.
Probably not midnight, I don't know.
It's so good.
The whole song is running around that one.
Have you like making love on midnight?
That's a specific one, but.
Yeah.
All right, so there are four inductees
in the TripDitch Club this week who enjoy those things.
Dave, when he figures out coding is also going to put all
these names up on the website on a special page.
That's right.
Sparkly Gold font.
Or if anyone wants to, any coders out there,
who want to get in touch with Dave, do it.
I mean, if they're really good,
they'll hack the website and do it themselves. Yeah. Now that it be good. That's a challenge to you, do it. I mean, if they're really good, they'll hack the website and do it themselves.
Yeah.
Now that it be good.
That's a challenge to you, coders.
You challenging people to hack our website.
No, please don't do that.
I mean, what are they gonna find?
Well, they won't find,
but they'll just put up stuff there like a picture of a butt.
Oh, we did that already.
Yeah, or something like Dave flipping them off, for example.
We hacked our own website.
If you click on the mom, your mom's butt tab, you'll see a photo of Dave. Dave flipping them off, for example. We hacked our own website.
If you click on the my your mom's tab, you'll see a photo of Dave.
Still funny after all these years.
We are eventually going to get around to redo the website. Anyway, four inductees into the club tonight come in behind the Velvet
Road, make yourselves at home from London.
We have John Falener.
Welcome John.
From Royal Oak in M-I-U-S.
M-M-Zoo.
Michigan.
Michigan.
No, it's a ride.
It's John Cole Wilkinson.
I feel like this is M-I as one we go for all the time.
You gotta be confident, man, is Michigan.
Well done.
Well done.
From Leicestershire in Great Britain, it's Sam Henson and from West Sussex, also in Great
Britain, it is Sarah Groove.
Welcome, one, welcome, all make yourselves at home, enjoy the cocktail, enjoy the cocktail
song about cocktails.
We've got our dance floor, what's it got a area, and the music is like a good amount for dancing,
but it's not too overpowering, you can sew a chat.
It's the perfect level.
I love that.
So welcome in, thank you so much.
We curated it, lastly.
That's great, I love welcoming people
into the trip to Chicago.
I love the Patreon segment of the show.
Generally, one of my favorite sections of the show.
It's a beautiful time.
And a reminder as well that we do have that web series, we've got our second episode coming out on Friday. That's right, I feel this is in the show. It's a beautiful time. And a reminder as well that we do have that web series,
we've got our second episode coming out on Friday.
That's right, I feel listening to this in the future,
we might have all nine episodes out.
Yeah. You can binge it.
Oh my God, how lucky are you?
Just go to, there'll be a link in the show notes
or you can just go to youtube.com slash stupid old channel.
We've also got our own YouTube channel,
which is slash dig on pod,
where we put all these episodes up and,
and a bunch of those episodes are in video format.
Yeah.
Oh, I know.
Wow.
That's pretty exciting.
All three days, well two days.
Two days in those cases.
You can find us on all socials at do go on pod
and our email address is do go on pod at gmail.com.
But I think that's all that we have to say.
Yeah, I think merch is back up and about.
We have to shut it down because of COVID-related
mailing restrictions, but that should be up soon.
Yeah.
I saw it.
I thought it was up.
Not yet, but I can do it again soon.
But it's coming up soon.
And I've got ideas for some new merch shits,
great, which I want to tell you about.
OK.
I reckon we should start out in a few extra shirts in there.
What do you think?
OK. I'll talk about this tell you about. Okay. I reckon we should start out in a few extra shirts in there. What do you think?
Okay.
I'll talk about this off here.
Sounds good.
Dave, any final requests?
Um, yeah, I would love a cheese board.
Okay.
What's your favorite, oh, I know you like a blue cheese.
I like a soft blue.
Yep.
I love a camembert.
Yeah, well, I like, hey.
That's a lie.
I like a breed. I like a cheddar. I'm I'm the basic
Bitch of cheese. I mean, breathe. I'll be right there with me. Breast, broody basic. I love a cheddar. Maybe a smoky cheddar.
I love a bit of quince paste and I certainly don't mind a dip. Oh, yeah, hummus. I love some olives. Calamata if you please
Me too. No, I don't like him. You guys if you please. Oh me too.
No, I don't like them, you guys can go nuts.
Anyway, that's nuts.
Yes, but almonds, cashews, Brazilians, walnuts.
It's fun coming down here to record South of the Yara, so I can have these fancy discussions
about cheese balls.
This has never been so many loud cars go past my house ever
until we're recording.
Hi, Regan.
Do you reckon some of them cut through?
I don't know, but if they didn't,
have you heard them?
Sorry about that, but it is very unlike this street.
Yeah, this is a little dead end street.
Yeah, like me.
And a dead end town.
I tried to wrap it up and then we just went on another 10.
Anyway, that's the end for this week.
Thanks so much everyone for joining us.
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But yeah, keep there in between.
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