Do Go On - 240 - Phil Hartman

Episode Date: May 27, 2020

You may know Phil Hartman as one of the brightest stars at The Groundlings, Saturday Night Live and The Simpsons - but his career also had some unexpected twists and turns, before it all ended in tragedy.This week's episode is brought to you by Express VPN, visit: ExpressVPN.com/dogoon Our new weekly web series on Stupid Old Channel is out now:https://youtube.com/stupidoldchannel Our website: dogoonpod.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/phil-hartman-rememberedhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/man-laughter-snl-simpsons-star-phil-hartmans-life/story?id=65642867https://www.britannica.com/biography/Phil-Hartmanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Hartmanhttps://heavy.com/entertainment/2020/05/phil-hartman-death/https://heavy.com/entertainment/2019/09/phil-hartman-death-story-cause-reason/

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Welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnikey and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hello Jess and hello Dave. It's good to be here again. Hi Matt. You look like you were poison to do the next bin. I was going to and then. because you kept going, I freaked myself out and I couldn't do it.

And then I left too long a pause. And I thought, all right, Jess, you've got to go for a different joke here. And I did a, I did, I don't know, a no end for you. I love it. I love a block. Yeah. I love a comedy block. Because what matters, unfortunately, down there is the musical episode is next week.

Oh, no. I've gone early. That's story in my life. Oh, what am I like. Dave, we've got a really exciting thing out at the moment. Would you say that? I'd say that. I'd say it too.

I would agree. With who? Matt or me? Both. Oh. Can you? Interesting. You can never pick aside, can you?

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And taste. You got to lick your computer though. Yep. But we went around individually and put a little bit of our own taste on all of your computers. The snowsberries taste like snowsberries. So don't make that a waste of our time. You lick your goddamn computers. Okay.

it took a lot of time and effort too much some would argue our accountant but yeah go check that out it was so fun we've been getting i think nearly nothing but positive feedback so go look at it and tell us how we can improve it no no don't do that balance it out a little bit no i don't just give it we're very fragile give us only good news and it's too late to change anything obviously that's true we we filmed it pre-covid and you'll notice that because we are sitting basically on each other's laps. Yeah, it was a different time. A different time.

Now we are a good 1.5 metres away from each other. At all times. But the way this podcast works is probably best described by Jess Perkins in song. Fuck you. Every week, one of the three does a report, brings it back to the class. How is that? On core, on core. Fuck you.

And the way we get on to topic is with a question. This week, I'm doing the report, so I'm asking the question. And my question is, I'm going to open up to Jess first, because I know Dave knows the answer to this. Oh. Jess. Okay. You get the first free shot.

Yeah, but what if I don't know it and then I look down? Which legendary comedy actor is known for his roles in such shows as Saturday Night Live, The Simpsons. News Radio. Who's in S&L and the Simpsons? He's not wearing a tie at all. Famous for his roles. You might know him from.

Fuck! What's his name? Mothballing my battleship. Dig your own grave and save. I know who it is. The president's neck is missing. I'm going to throw it open to Dave. I actually don't know.

Phil. That is, Phil Hartman. Shit. That's really cool. I don't know. Do we have microphones in front of our faces when we talked about our favorite Simpsons characters before? That was on the Patreon bonus episode, which came out this week. And I was so excited to hear that we all love Phil Hartman characters.

I'm like, oh, I've got some fun coming up later tonight. That is exciting. We just recorded an episode. And to be honest, it nearly went for an hour and a half. So we used to say there were many, but they're not many bonus episodes. We promise many, but sometimes we over deliver. Yeah, for our patron. And I did a report on the great Siegfried and Roy.

Yeah, amazing. The original Tiger Kings. Oh, that was so fun. I reckon it's one of the best bonus episodes we've done. And like on that, you said who are the original Tiger Kings and my mind couldn't get to Sigfried and Roy fast enough. It was the same here. I could see his face immediately.

There's a particular picture of him that's in my head right now, and I could not get his name. And then you said, and I was like, Philharp. So he's been suggested by three people, by Megan Reef in Shippensburg, Pennsylvania. Sounds like a cool place. Shippensburg. Also by Dan Brunetti of Canterbury. And thirdly, by Selena Hoots.

A lovely man. Of San Jose, California, USA. Great suggestions and great names, all of you. So, I mean, I don't know, most people probably know that the story doesn't end nicely. But Philip Edward Hartman was born on the 24th of September 1948 in Brantford, Ontario in Canada. He was the fourth of eight children, parents Doris and Rupert. Eight. Where's that sit on the scale?

Oh, too many. Absolutely too many. Yeah, does it put any questions in your mind? My main question is, do they know what's causing it? That's my main question. Good question. I don't know if I have others. My other question would be, how do you think of so many names?

Right, yeah. Geez, eight names. Because my dad is one of eight. Yeah. And there's a Joan and a John. They ran out. They ran out. Yeah.

What? And the first two kids just named after the parents. Oh, smart. Wow. And then they only had to think of six names and they still went Joan and John. Crazy. That's the kind of, you know, family I come from. They had a boy first and a girl.

and thought, well, I'm being. We've already named him, Philip Jr. At one point, they're a family of four with two names. Yeah. Yeah. It's so confusing as well. Who are you talking to? Me or the kid.

Me or the toddler. Who's in trouble for not doing the dishes? I can't keep up. So, yeah, I love it. I think Canada's like they're overachieve with comedy. Yeah. So many of the great comedians seem to be born in Canada. His dad, Rupert, was a big.

building supply salesman and Doris was a homemaker. Great couple no American, Rupert and Doris. Love that. Doris is particularly good. Love it, very much. According to a CBS profile, the Canadian-born Hartman himself

once credited his talent to his birth order. Quote, I'm from a large family. I'm a middle child, he once said. I suppose I didn't get what I wanted out of my family life, so I started seeking love and attention elsewhere, end quote. That's a bit of a classic thing you hear sometimes from people in the biz,

the show biz that is. I thought when you said birth order, you meant like it was my birth right. Yeah. My heritage, I was destined to be a comedy great. I came from a building supply salesman and a homemaker. Obviously. One plus one equals. I was expecting a youngest child.

Ah, right, because they're always. Show-offs. Show-offs, right. I'm a middle child. You're an eldest. Yeah, okay. I'm a youngest. Dave and I are both youngest.

Yeah, right. So doesn't that make sense? show us. I'm a baby. I'm a widdle baby. That's what I say. At family dinners. I say,

oh, I'm a widdle baby. You have to feed me. My brother punches me still. And you're always, my diaper needs changing. Yeah, I'm always in a nappy.

You've got a weird accent. And no top on. Just, this is not funny anymore. Hasn't been funny for 30 years. I don't know. I'm a widow baby. I love that as well because you're 29.

And it hasn't been funny for 30 years. Not since the womb has this bit worked. When Hartman was 10, the family moved to Lewiston, Maine in the United States, then onto Meriden, Connecticut before landing in suburban L.A., where he attended Westchester High School. This is the first time I really took notice of the spelling of Connecticut. It's spelled Connecticut. Yes.

I'd never noticed that before. I thought Americans were the ones who just pronounced words as they were written. Yeah, like aluminum. Yeah, we spell aluminium differently. Do we? Yeah, we got an extra letter. Oh, I thought they just missed it. But if it's spelled differently, I guess it makes it more sense.

Dave, you got the tie-breaking vote here. Asphalt. Adidas. Oregano. So he was a bit of a class clown at Westchester, once telling an interviewer quote, I was class clown because I could do John Wayne, Jack Benny, Jack Kennedy, Lyndon Johnston and entertain my friends on the senior lawn, showing signs of his gift for mimicry that would later make him famous.

I like to imagine that his voice has always sounded like that. Because he has a beautiful voice. What a voice. Oh, what a voice. And I imagine like a 13 year old with that voice. It's like we call Dave golden tonsils, but... He's got platinum tonsils. My voice is running out this week, so we'll see if I made the whole episode.

He's got not only golden tonsils, but a cold and... lips, golden teeth, golden gums. I can't talk. Howie. According to the New Yorker, in his teen years, Hartman surfed, drew pot, smoked pot, I meant, maybe grew it as well, acted in theatre productions, dated girls and did impressions to entertain his friends. After school, he kept surfing and smoking pot, but also enrolled in an art course at Santa

Monica College, but dropped out to become a roadie for a band called Rockin'Foo. Maybe up there for the new worst band name I've ever heard. Rock and Fu. How'd he smell Fu? F-O-O. Oh, yeah. I don't know that foo fighters are named after them. They had a beef with them.

What is Fu? Well, Fu Fighter, that was a type of plane. Right. Fu, though. It's called Fu Fighter. Yeah. Crazy. I didn't know that.

I never thought about it. It's also the, what's the other, what's initialism? What's the other one? Acronym. It's also the acronym for my favorite of a racehorse, Fields of Omar. he's one of those guys who had a bunch of noteworthy mini careers outside of the career that made him famous. So it was a rowdy. But after his sin as a road,

he went on to study graphic arts at California State University, after which he opened his own graphic design company. I also read that he worked for his brother. They seemed to contradict each other, but anyway, small detail there. During this time, he helped design more than 40 album covers, including for bands including Poco, Steely Dan, America and Crosby Stills and Nash. He designed their album covers.

He did. You know, there's this sort of Celtic cross style logo for Crosby Stills and Nash. He designed that. That is the best fun fact I've heard of ages. Yeah, no. I'm like that for me, I'm dining out on that for the rest of my life. That's a super cool thing. But yeah, that's just a little footnote in his life.

That's really cool. That's very cool. I read a quote him describing it somewhere I don't think he was super proud of it and then like it's probably none of it is super groundbreaking art design or anything but he said he only has one of those album covers up

on his wall so I don't know sort of reading between the lines he wasn't super proud of all of it but still what a rad thing and that was just like in his 20s just banging out some you know three of those bands are legendary I don't know if I know Poco

but Steelydowne in America and Crosby stills and Nash are all huge. Yeah, and then Rocking Fu. Let's not forget Rocking Fu. According to ABC News, Hartman was living a bohemium existence where pot was plentiful. I just never thought of him as a pothead either. Like he always plays sort of,

not always, but usually plays pretty straight kind of characters. Yeah. Around this time, he met Gretchen Lewis, who would go on to become his first wife. They married in 1970. So he was still quite young, obviously.

Doesn't bode well when you say first wife. Yeah, so he's 21, 22. Steve Small, Hartman's close friend and lawyer, told the ABC News Program 2020, that, quote, Phil fell in love easily, but wasn't very skilled at continuing a relationship. Okay. By 1972, Hartman and Lewis had divorced.

According to a jam showbiz profile, quote, Hartman always thought he'd be just another working guy who had little or no interest in show biz. But he was a little only working at his graphic designer desk every day by himself, usually entertaining only himself with flights of voice fantasies. Man, I would have loved to have been in that room just watching Phil Hartman just mucking about with voices. On his own? I want it sound like if John Wayne went on a drinking night with Jack Kennedy.

I go a little something like this. It sounds crazy. deciding he had to find an outlet he started studying at the LA improv company the groundlings in 1975 you know the groundlings I know it is quite one of the big improv joints yeah lots of big names have come out of there he said I'm more or less started taking workshops for the fun of it and ten years later I was still doing it for the fun of it apparently the first time he got on stage was They do it, well, they used to at least do a part in the show where they'd bring up someone from the audience. And apparently he put his hand up, got up on stage.

And others said, we'd never seen anyone come up with that kind of energy. You know, it was really memorable. His right away, his first ever performance. And soon after he was. He came back in, they'd be had some guy and he's better than they are. Who the fuck's this idiot? It'd be so annoying. Yeah.

I've worked really hard. It's like most of the time hecklers contribute nothing to. the show but then every now and then when they're funnier than you you're like fuck you this is somehow worse yeah uh mike thomas who wrote you might remember me the life and times of phil hartman tells it via an article in the new yorker that and then it's i quote this little bit but uh this is from the new yorker article harman was instantly good a performer whose utter commitment begat brilliance an indispensable utility player who could be counted on in all scenarios pretty glitman blowing praise for a performer.

John Lovitz, he probably, you know, from a bunch of stuff, Simpsons and Saturday Night Live. And I loved his wedding singer role. Yes. Is he a DJ or is he the other wedding singer? He's like in competition with Adam Sandler anyway. And there was this one saying when Adam Sandler was starting to lose it a bit, Lovitz's picks from behind a curtain and he goes,

he is losing his mind and I'm reaping all the benefits. And then he sort of disappears back while he goes. And that classic love it's voice. Rat Race, another great one from John Lewis. An old-time great. Everyone remembers it, Rat Race. It was an all-star cast. Oh my God.

Ron Acres. John Cleese. Yeah. I think it was one of those films were the best thing about it was the cast. You just looked at me like... It's whoopey in it? It feels like one of those ones is everyone's in it.

Might be. Bert Reynolds? Or am I thinking of Cannonball run. I probably saw her when I was 10 years old. Or 11 when it came out. Is that A's. Is that Ais? Classic Atkinson.

Oh, classic Atkinson. We got Rowan Ackinson, John Cleese, Whoopi Goldberg, Cuba Gooding Jr., Seth Green, John Lovitz, Breckenmeyer, Amy Smart. Yes. That is quite a line-up. Big lineup. Was that a good movie?

It was fine. I think it was good for an 11-year-old. Yeah, about that age, loved it. So when to come out, 90s? August 17, 2001, a much more innocent. Dark. Just. Pre-9-11 world.

So John Lovitz, a groundling at the time. Two considered Hartman a big star, someone who could be told to play a shoe salesman and deliver something jaw-dropping. Wow. Quote, whatever he was going to imagine or say was nothing you could imagine or think of. He could do any voice, play any character, make his face look different without makeup. He was king of the groundlings. Whoa, what amazing praise.

I've seen recent interviews with Lovitz, and he talks about the first time he met him. He started soon after, and he was playing an understudy in a play they were doing where Hartman was the lead. And he said, and the first thing he said to him was, I'm understudy for this character,

and Phil Hartman goes to him, oh, you'll be great. And Lovitz remembers walking away, going, oh my God, I just spoke to Phil Hartman. Oh, wow. He's just like he was, yeah, which is pretty amazing. That's so nice. His first on-screen experience was as a contestant on the dating game, a blind dating show.

He won the episode being selected at the end of the episode by The Bachelorette. Yeah, we've had similar shows here. Yeah. I can't remember what they call, but yeah, some sort of perfect match. So he was even good. Dave's done live version. Yeah, yeah. I did do a few years of live version to that show, but.

So he's even good on that show. Yeah. Well, sort of. But I mean, yeah, it was a different time kind of thing. He goes, he later recalled that winning was, quote, that was the worst part of it. The other two guys were adults. What did it? She asked me, if I was a street sign, what would I be?

I said, slippery when wet. He goes, yes. And as you might have expected, she stood me up. So she did, for a TV date, she didn't go to the day. I wouldn't. I know, well, that's what he said. Why'd you go on the show though? And she picked him after he said that.

Yeah, yeah. So I guess she, yeah, slim pickings, I guess. I mean, what is fucking ridiculous question? Yeah. I think you'd be stop sign. It's one of those questions where they're pretty much begging for him to say that. Exactly. Or something like, ooh.

Yeah, like I would say hump. Hump a head or something. Oh, bird. Because I'm going to hump you. Yeah, no, I got it. I got it, Darren. Yield, because I'm going to be the strong one in this relationship and you back down. It's all creepy.

Roundabout. Slow children ahead. What? Our kids are not going to be that smart. There was a sign on my street where I grew up and it was a giveaway sign but someone had just written in and it was there for like 20 years. Give way to my dear. That's what I'd be. Give way to my dear.

I didn't know that was a sign. Yeah, well, if you lived on Villani Drive, you'd know. Give away to my dick. The one that you see, well, I don't know if you still see that much, but I remember seeing a lot younger was a lot of people who wrote under stop. They'd write hammer time. You see that around? Classic.

I've never seen that. How old are you? How dare you? I was definitely alive for hammer fever. It's hammer. But I think it was way out of date even when I was saying this as graffiti. That's really funny. So we're into the 70s and he began to get some voice work in the late 70s.

I think his first one was, whatever the 1979 version of Scooby-Doo. I think it was called Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo. He also did voice work for the Smurfs, the Jetsons and Dennis the Menace. Oh, wow. A few iconic shows. He started scoring some small film roles as well, such as in the Gong Show movie, he played a role called Man at Airport with Gun.

And in Cheech and Chong's next movie, he played the role, actor being filmed in the background. Okay. Big start. Yeah, so he was climbing. He met Paul Rubens at the Groundlings, and they started a creative partnership with Hartman helping Rubens develop his Pee-Wee-Herman

character, which I know by name, but I don't really, I watched a little clip and he seems like quite an annoying character. But I think it was a, it was a big deal at some point. Have you heard of Pee We Herman? I've heard of Pee We Herman, yeah. Yeah, and there was some controversy where the actor was called like an adult cinema or something and then he had to sort of disappear for a few years and then could come back. Yeah.

Was it like a children's character or like just? Yeah, because I think you would appear. Or a family friendly character. And then... Right. I don't think he was doing anything like illegal or anything. It was just like, oh... You're watching porn.

Yeah. Why would you go to a cinema for that? I guess it was probably... I must have been pre-internet. Or maybe you'd like the camaraderie. It always feels like a weird thing to go, would you? You know, at a normal cinema, they just have to pick up a lot of popcorn. This cinema is a little different.

That stickiness isn't spilt Pepsi. Yuck. Oh, yeah, so Hartman helped develop that character of Peeway Herman, which is a wild fact as well. In 1982, Hartman married again to real estate agent Lisa Strain, but this marriage ended less than three years later. According to Strain, he would, and I saw, I think she obviously, she either married again or changed her name because she's also referred to as Lisa Jarvis in different articles. So I think I end up just calling it Lisa. but anyway, at this point I'm calling her Lisa Strain. She said he would disappear emotionally.

Phil's body would be there, but he'd be in his own world. That passativity made you crazy. Passativity? Passiveness is what I'd say. But I like making up fresh words. Quote goes on, oh, this is a separate quote from her. My sense of Phil was that he was really two people. She later told 2020.

He was the guy who wanted to draw and write and think and create and come up with ideas. He was the actor and entertainer, and then he was the recluse. Seeing Phil at the groundlings was Phil being true Phil. You know, as time goes by, you understand that his personas are his protection

and they are his personality. But she said it was, that does seem to be repeated in his relationships. Jell feel, there's something a bit, feels a bit like intrusive, me even reading about some of this stuff about his relationships,

but apparently, you know, he would be a bit distance at times and that would cause issues with his marriages. Obviously, it's hard to be in relation to someone who's emotionally distant. From the New Yorker, Hartman met Bryn Omdahl at a party in 1985 soon after his second marriage ended. So over then, Omdahl had terrible trouble with cocaine and alcohol in the past. Thomas, who wrote that biography, writes, when Phil met Bryn he may well have been at his most vulnerable state in years his second marriage's

ending had shaken him and his performing career wasn't taking off omdar was strikingly beautiful thomas wrights and the affections of a statuous blonde may have bolstered hartmann's deflated self-image but their relationship he says was bumpy from the get-go well that's such weird like i don't know why i haven't read that out, like a biographer later going, this may have been why he could have done this. It all feels like kind of almost pointless. Speculation. Speculation, thank you.

In 1985, his career was starting to pick up, quote, Peewee's big adventure was released, which Hartman co-wrote with Ruben and Michael Vahole. In the film, the directorial debut of Tim Burton, which I found surprising. Tim Burton's first film, apparently, it was Pee We Herman's Big Adventure. Oh, right. Hartman in that film also had an on-screen role as reporter. Okay. He wrote the film, co-wrote it, and the only role they could think to give him was reporter.

I'm sure he did a great job, though. Yeah, he'd be a great reporter. I think he played news people a few times. Yeah. The film was a hit, which led to Rubin's hosting Saturday Night Live and character as Pee-We, and Hartman was hired to write material for the episode. creator and executive producer of SNL, Lorne Michaels, enjoyed Hartman's work,

and said so to Ruben's manager, who, according to Thomas, told him in effect, you ain't seen nothing yet. I love that manager character. Wow, this Hartman guy's great, yeah? You ain't seen nothing yet. Despite all the complimentary words about Hartman, he was a lot more modest about himself,

later saying, as an actor, I felt I couldn't compete. I wasn't as cute as the leading man. I wasn't as brilliant as Robin Williams. The one thing I could do was voices, impersonations and weird characters, and there was really no call for that, except on Saturday Night Live. I was going to say,

if only there was a show, they had that every week. In 1986, Hartman was hired by S&L as a performer and writer. As well as Hartman, Jan Hooks, Dana Carvey, Victoria Jackson, and Kevin Neelan were added to that same cast,

which already included Dennis Miller, Nora Dunn, and John Lovitz. So John Mavitt's got to SNL before him and then they got to work together on air there, which is pretty cool. That's nice. I've been just reading about SNL for a while. It sounds like a brutal time. There's so many big stars that I didn't even know did Tom on there. Chris Rock was on it for a while.

Ben Stiller did a year on it and all these people sort of bombed out on it. I read an article as written a few years ago that ranked every ever cast member. Jesus. They ranked the worst ever cast member at 120 something. or whatever. It's a real rough article and they're not and they're mean for the first half, which is wild. I'm like,

oh, what, it sounds like the shittest job to get ever. And they're still better than so many other people who want that job. Yeah, every year like 2,000 people auditioned and four get in or something. Yeah. Probably more.

It's probably more to be honest. So it, and it just sounds like it's the kind of job that is always stressful. I listen to Conan O'Brien's podcast with Mike Myers recently and Mike Myers, who's the big star. Huge success on that show. He said every week he thought he was going to get fired. He never enjoyed it.

He was always stressed about getting sacked. Fuck. There's something about the culture of that show that just sounds like you're just... And they have a... Their thing is they work all the way through the night on Tuesdays and they write the show. All the riders are in overnight. Everyone has to be there and work through the night to write the show. Why?

I don't know. Everything. It just sounds like this is how it started. It's on Saturday night. Yeah. So why couldn't you work Monday to Friday at regular hours? I think they meant to work full time, but then they do. Maybe it's Thursday, but one of the nights they write the show overnight.

Anyway, I was just like, oh, this sounds like full toxic, but. Do you know, who was voted number one? I do know that. Do you, are you asking me because you know, no, no. It was, oh, I should say Phil Hartman was in the top six. Wow. How do you find it? I think, Will Ferrell or something?

Well, Farrell was up there, but he was like, I think it was around the top 10. And Tina Faye was right up. I think she was like three or something. And is it based on just their time on SNL? Yes, exactly. Yeah, great. It was in the Rolling Stone magazine as well. Holy shit.

So it was like a, man, it would have been heartbreaking for so many people who would have heard about it. It's 145. Who's 145? That's awful. Robert Downey Jr. 145. Okay, he'll be all right. Yeah, I think he... I don't know he was on it.

Yeah, I don't know either. The Muppets were on briefly early and they were ranked very low, 144. So hang on, Robert Downey Jr. was the worst. And then the Muppets second worst. But he's Robert Downey Jr. Yeah, I think... And they're the Muppets. I think, yeah, that's right.

So they both bounce back okay. But that's what it says, Robert Downey Jr. is a comic genius. Making him unfunny stands as SNL's most towering achievement in terms of sucking. How do you fuck up a sure thing like Downey? He's funny in anything. I mean, dude was funny in weird science anyway. He is funny. Gilbert Gottafreed.

Gottfried was 141. Colin Quinn, like legends. Norm MacDonald 139. Randy Quaid 138. Sorry, I'm late, Mr. President. It's my favorite line from Independence Day. Delivered by Randy Quaid. Oh, yeah, right.

He's real funny. Again, I think they sort of say that about him. How do I get to the number one? But yeah, so it's pretty amazing. There were so many people I'd, you know, you just never heard of even in it. But then I would not, I was going to say. Will Forte 52, who's one of the bigger recent ones? I was going to say 145 has to be a name we've never heard of.

And then it was Robert Downing Jr. I'm the same. Lovitz was at 19. Oh my gosh. Sandler at 17. Kristen Wig, 14. Bill Hader 13. Will Ferrell 12.

Dana Carvey 11. Chevy Chase 10. Here we go. We're in the top 10, that. The loading. I mean, yeah, it's the kind of thing. It's like, what is, I mean, this is just someone's opinion. Gilda Radner at 9, so you get into absolute legends of it.

Amy Poller at 8, Phil Hartman at 7, Bill Murray at 6, Dan Aykroyd at 5, Mike Myers at 4, Tina at 3, Eddie Murphy at 2 and John Belushi at number 1, who we've done a report on. Wow. Also, two of my idols in the top 10. Yeah, great. Amy and Tina, amazing. So good. that's crazy

I'm like I mean the reason they would have done the whole way and made it a bit bitchier was so it would have got that attention probably by being like that mean sort of and it's still so subjective somebody recently ranked all of Paul Kelly's songs wow and like I was scrolling through

to see what they said was number one I was like I'm not reading your opinion on every single song that's ridiculous but I was scrolling scrolling scrolling scrolling and some of my favorites were like I was like should have been higher, you know? So I was like, this is bullshit.

This is your opinion and that's fine. But, I mean. And people know, I think they know listicles like that with opinions and especially with a few slightly dodgy opinions are going to get shared more. People go, can you believe? Yeah. Look at this idiot. So this song was number one.

I've been pretty obsessed with Leonard Cohen lately. Put him up for the vote for this topic as well. He did not get many votes. Idiots. Hartman won with over 50% of the vote. He would landslide. Did it in. Dick Van Dyke.

I also put up. That would be cool. But yeah, I've been looking at Lennon, like, his album's ranked and it's the same. Like, they're like, he really doesn't have a bad album, but these are not as good. I'm like, that album's flawless. Yeah. What are you talking about? Exactly.

It's so weird when they're like, here's this thing, ranked. Yeah. It's like, fuck off. Oh, this is what music experts think. What does that mean for me? Yeah. Anyway, sorry, I got a little sidetrack there. But yeah, so he's super, as I'll talk about now, he's just super well respected as an SNL alum.

But he joined a cast, and I think the show was really kind of struggling that time. They were burning through a lot of these performers that were coming on, sometimes for one season. And there's another weird thing about it is they're sort of fighting each other for on-air time. Yeah. And that was something that Phil Hartman said he really didn't enjoy trying to, you're fighting your friends for screen time? No, I'd hate that. I'm not competitive. Please write something for me.

Very ambitious. Yeah. I'd be like, yeah, let them have it. It's cool. That's all good. Oh, well, I'll go straight into that now. He found his eight seasons at SNL stressful, telling People magazine in a 1995 interview, the rejection and backstabbing could be painful, but the hardest thing was competing

against your friends for airtime. It just sort of sucked a lot. The New Yorker wrote that Hartman, who was older than many of his peers and professional by habit excelled at both lead and supporting roles. The skills that Hartman had honed in the groundlings made him a key cast member who made everyone look good and helped to improve the show. And that because of his steadying influence and rock-like presence

and because he helped her to overcome her stage fright, Jan Hooks nicknamed him the glue. Soon everyone called him that, sometimes chanting it at table reads when he made the writer's pieces sound good. Glue, glue, glue, glue, glue. That's fun. there's another story about how he got the nickname glue but like that is definitely his

nickname and everyone calls him that he um I was listening to the Al Frank an episode of the Conan O'Brien podcast recently and he and that was before I'd done any of this research and he mentions on that they're talking about Phil Hartman and how great he was and they go ah the glue there's still sort of that that nickname is stuck I didn't mean that oh fantastic didn't mean that entirely I was sort of about to say it and then I'm like hmm I need to say this in a gross tone to make sure everyone knows I don't believe in it. Hartman was perhaps most famous for his impersonations on the show, such as Bill Clinton and Frank Sin Archer.

But you may also know him from some of the original characters he created, such as the anal retentive chef and the unfrozen caveman lawyer. And I don't, because I really only know a few of the really famous SNL sketches, and most of them are from after his time, like the Cowbell sketch I've seen a lot and a few others. I've tried to watch some best of and I'm like oh this is the best of it's just not for whatever reason it's not my kind of definitely not there for me either

sorry sorry yeah but it's obviously a super successful show that's been going for decades but for whatever reason I'm like oh I expected this to be funnier but you know comedy is subjective SNL producer Lorne Michaels once said Phil Hartman I think is the least appreciated except here so he's sort of he did not He did not get a lot of love in the media and that sort of stuff.

But internally, a lot of love. Michael's when I was say, that kind of ability to do five or six parts in a show where you're playing support or you're doing remarkable character work is different than doing the well-known or more popular characters. You know, the people who are becoming big stars instantly from it. Yeah. It was also funny to hear some people who are like, he was really one of the only people who were going like,

I can't do any more parts this week's episode. And everyone else is like, please give me, give me anything, I'll take any scraps. And he's like, I, like everyone's gone, I need you in my sketch, please. I don't have time to change. In 1986, Hartman also scored a small role in iconic comedy, The Three Amigos. And it was, I don't know, have you seen that recently? No. I had to go back and watch a clip.

He was like just a classic Smarmy, Phil Hartman character. He's good at Smarmy. He's so good at Smarmy. Over the following 10 or so years, he also, he also. appeared on the big screen in Fletch lives, loaded weapon, cone heads. So I married an axe murderer, Sergeant Bilko and Jingle All the Way. I was first imagining him as like a gross boyfriend. I was like, what is that?

And I was like, it's Sergeant Belko. Yeah. He's so good in Sergeant Bilko. So I think as those films went on, his roles were getting bigger, his sort of star was growing. And he was like a relatively big character in Bilko and Jingle all the way. I think he was played Arnie's neighbor

again sort of like Yeah An unlikable sort of neighbor guy He plays an asshole so well So well So he wasn't the lead in any of those films But he didn't seem to mind too much Telling Jam Showbiz

It's fun Coming in as the second or third lead If the movie or TV show bombs You aren't to blame Hey I'm the bad guy The Jerky Guy I did all I could to make it interesting The Jerky Guy character

Became one of the trademarks of his career and according to an article in the Star Tribune, Hartman loved playing these weasily characters. There were many variations, but were often seedy, vain or otherwise unpleasant. When asked about his influence, as he said, my ultimate favourite was Jackie Gleason's Ralph Cramden from the Honeymooners. But I'm a really big fan of Bill Murray.

He's been a great influence on me. When he did that smile-mey thing in Ghostbusters, then the same sort of thing in Groundhog Day. I tried to imitate it. I couldn't. I wasn't good enough. but I discovered an element of something else. So in a sick kind of way,

I made myself a career by doing a bad imitation of another comic. I think that's pretty common. Like you hear the Rolling Stones, we were trying to sound like, you know, like Howling Wolf and American Blues musicians. And they did it, they couldn't sound like that, but they sounded slightly different and that became a big thing in its own way.

I think that's pretty common in the word. You imitate your heroes and then it spits out a new different thing. In 1987, kind of like how you try to imitate me, it's not the same, Jess, but it is a new great thing. It's its own thing. And a lot of people argue better. Yeah, I mean, I'm not one of those.

No, but a lot of people. I'd say equally and differently good. Nah, but and I know that's what you say, but a lot of people are outside of this room say that I'm better. I'm not agreeing with them either. Actually, what am I talking about? Yeah, I agree. I think you're definitely funny than me.

I forgot what we were talking about there for a second. In 1987, Hartman married Bryn Omdahl, who mentioned earlier, and in 1988, they had their first child named Sean. His second wife, Lisa, who mentioned earlier, recalled, quote, he calls me and says, I just became a father. And so I wrote a card, dear Phil and Bryn, you know, much, this is her recounting. I don't think this is how she actually wrote the card.

You know, dot, dot, dot. Much love from Aunt Lisa. You know, if you ever need a babysitter, dot, dot, dot. I'm so thrilled for you. Lisa said she, quote, got a letter back that was hair curling, fury, rage, and a death threat from Bryn. The gist of it was, don't ever fucking get near me or my family or I'll hurt you. I never want to hear from you. Never, ever, ever come near me or us or you'll be really sorry.

Okay. Also, I mean, I'm not going to be asking my ex-wife to babysit, am I? No. I'm glad that we have an amicable enough relationship that I can call her and say I've had a kid and she sends a guy. That's very nice. But like, that's not my first choice, you know? That feels a little bit weird. Right. Each to their own. Yes. Yeah. But I would still argue that that was a strong reply. Oh, yes. No, I'm just reacting to one thing, just that part. The letter back, completely unnecessary. Yes. At this point, Phil's career was really starting to take off, which some have suggested maybe played in a Brin's jealousy, who was also an aspiring actor.

Right. She had done modelling and she, you know, she was going for roles but wasn't getting any traction in acting. Though in the 90s, she would score a couple of small on-screen roles in the film North and the sitcom Third Rock from the Sun, but, you know, they were quite minor roles. Third Rock was a good show. Great show. I love it.

I love it. John Lithgow. Can't wait until our spin-off, do Lithgow on comes out. He's fantastic. The best. I love him. He can do it all.

He can do it all. Evil. Not evil. He's released. Kids albums. No. Yes. What do you mean?

Songs. Yeah, I think so. Oh, that's so cute. I think again, I learned this from Conan O'Brien's podcast. I love. Or maybe WTF. I love how much you learn from that podcast. I learned a lot.

It's lovely. It's a great educational tour Tour Why aren't I keep on plugging this huge podcast Don't listen to it I'll give you all you need to know here Stop giving people I've said every interesting thing

That's ever come up on that podcast So there you go So don't even bother needing to listen to it It doesn't need your help we do He doesn't need your listens No yeah Go back to the start listening to us all over again Some people have

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Big cows with a cat on its back. Oh, the cats wearing a hat. Saucy how. Don't tell anyone, if you're listening, this is a secret. Shut up. It's private. In 1990, Hartman began doing voices on the Simpsons. The most famous of these being three versions of his Weasley archetype.

The incompetent lawyer Lionel Hutz, who Dave, I believe is your... We were saying on the Patreon episode, my all-time favorite Simpsons character. He's amazing. Also, my all-time favorite Simpsons character, and I think maybe probably this would be almost one of the most common favorites, washed up actor Troy McClure. Yep. And slick monorail salesman,

Lyle Lannley, who was a one-off, but such a great character. Maybe you reappeared some of the time. I can't remember. I can't remember him. I can't remember one. But it's a great episode.

Written by Conan O'Brien. Yeah, amazing. You know I wrote that episode? No, I didn't know that. Yeah. And it's seen as by a lot of people as the best, if one of the best, if not the best,

My top five. Can I outrun the flash? Sure. Do you know man outrun the flash? Yeah. I had Mesao on primates, a podcast I did about primates and poppy culture last month. And it was about the flash. And I asked him that question.

I said, hey, Mizo, can you come man out run the flash? He just answered it sincerely. I don't even know if he knew the reference. But I'm sure he did and he was just bored of it. But it was cool to get an answer on that final, a bit of closure. The creative team at the same. Simpsons loved Hartman. Phil made the material funnier than we originally imagined, and I couldn't imagine anyone else doing it, said Al Green, the show's executive producer. The following is a big chunk

from a Volta article about Hartman by Joe Berkowitz, which I really enjoyed. It goes like this. It is an honor to be invited. This was written in 2010, so some of this stuff might be slightly out of that, but it is an honor to be invited as a guest voice on The Simpsons. Only after you've made it, in some way within your chosen field, will this gesture be extended? Athletes, actors, artists and architects alike have been written in as guests over the run of the show. Architects? Do you name? I don't know about that.

That's a good trivia question. If you name me, that's referencing. I am pay. That's a, there's a reference to him. I am impressed. Anyway, do you go on? All contributing to its Guinness Book World Record, for most guest stars.

Only a fraction of these people, however, have been asked back a second time. In that regard, Phil Hartman is in an elite class with Albert Brooks, John Lovitz, Kelsey Grammer, and Joe Montagna as frequent guests. I mean, they all played. All of them played great. Some of the best guys.

Albert Brooks played Hank Scorpio, I think. Oh, yeah, so good. John Lovitz, the film critic. Yes. Kelsey Grammer, of course, Sideshow Bob. And Joe Montania is Fat Tony. All iconic characters. So good.

But yeah, I don't know if more, in the last 10 years, maybe there's been others have been asked back more than once. But the article goes on. As a frequent, frequent guest, though, Phil Hartman was in a class all of his own. He was featured in 52 episodes over a period of eight years. There is a certain quality to the voice that was both high voltage and velvety, a sonic cocktail that was everything you needed it to be. The fact that Phil Hartman's voice could sound so unctuous and slimy at times meant that he usually portrayed a villainous rival in family-friendly movies

like small soldiers jingle all the way and greedy. But he could also do heroic too. And in animated form, he was able to explore these types of characters on the Simpsons. There he played Moses on the Mountain, Bart's adopted Father Tom. Oh, another great character I forget about the Big Brother episode. I think that's what that's talking about? I'm his father who am I you be the drunken gambler

so good I don't remember that and then he ends up having this street fight and then he he gets home he gets knocked out and falls backwards over a fire hydrant and he goes this is even more painful than it looks

yeah okay I do remember that he also obviously played Charlton Heston's likeness in the musical Stop the Planet of the Apes I want to get off featuring the show stop it, Dr. Zas, Dr. Zias. Dr. Zias. Dr. Zias. He even got the chance to bring his Bill Clinton impression over from Saturday Night Live

for a Halloween episode appearance. Mostly, though, Phil Hartman's contribution to the Simpsons consisted of two characters and these were anything but biblical, heroic or presidential. In his first appearance of the Simpsons, on the Simpsons, Bart gets hit by a car. Homer hires bargain basement attorney Lionel Hutz to represent him. Here's my card, Hutz says. It turns into a sponge if you hold it underwater. What started off as a barely embellished caricature of an ambulance chasing shyster,

eventually devolved into a down-and-out drunken hobo who also happened to be an attorney. Hutz was meant to be a one-time role, but the staff loved Hartman and wanted to use him again. Their next chance came just a couple of episodes later in the form of another new character in the Simpsons universe. We introduced to Troy McClure as he hosts the TV show, I can't believe they invented that. Dave, Dave, Faves. This show within a show would frequently pop up in brief bits featured washed up actor McClure and quack Dr. Nick Riviera,

hawking ridiculous products like Spiffy, a cleaning solvent strong enough to clean the grime off Edgar Allan Poe's tombstone. More often than infomercials also, Troy McClure would be glimpse starring in random educational videos, filmed at various points in his career. Whenever there was an opportunity to include an instructional video of any kind, the Simpsons producers could always plug in Phil Hartman and get a laugh out of his perpetually changing catchphrase.

Hi, I'm Troy McClure. He would always start. You might remember me from such educational films as lead paint, delicious but deadly. And here comes the metric system. According to interviews, Troy McClure was Hartman's favorite character. Of all the characters he ever did, And he used to entertain the crew on the set of his post-S&L show news radio by doing the Troy McClure voice in between takes.

As I saw him in an interview him saying that his favorite fans are Troy McClure fans. Such a good character. As we sat at our night live, Phil Hartman played the background a lot in The Simpsons. But he also had a couple of moments in the spotlight, including one of the widely agreed upon greatest episodes of all time, the Conan O'Brien scripted Marge versus the monorail, where he played Lyle Lannley, the colourful singing swindler based on the music man.

He also apparently played the music man on stage in college or earlier in his life. And I'm pretty sure if I'm remembering right, isn't the music man, is that the one that's said in Gary Indiana? Oh, I don't know. I'm not being confused with someone else. This is still from the Vulture article. Another starring performance of his came in the Fish called Selma episode. Did we do it?

That was the Stop the Pino the Apes episode. And we did an episode, Dave and I did an episode of Paul. primates about that episode. Oh, great. That's one where he marries Selma. Yeah. I love that episode. I think we spent a lot of it just reading the script and laughing. Yeah. Must be must have been a tedious one. I'm just remembering Selma baby. Yeah. Am I right? Is that the thing? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Selma baby. Which was developed to give Troy McClure more of a backstory, albeit one in which his character has fallen on hard times due to an embarrassing sexual proclivity involving marine life. It was so vaguely based on Richard gear you were telling me in the hamstering or whatever.

Yeah, there was rumors about that. It was like this weird rumor about Richard gear that he were like gerbling, sorry. Oh. And this was sort of a spoof of that work, but it was fish. Are you gay? I wish. By 1994, the cast members Hartman joined SNL with, apart from Kevin Neeland, have moved on to other projects. And the cast now included other heavy hitters such as Mike Myers, Adam Sandler,

that and Chris Farley. So he was, he shared the screen with some of the, you know, the biggest ones in those eight seasons. He was multi-generational. Yeah, yeah. Hartman told the LA Daily News that he felt like an athlete who's watched all his World Series teammates get traded off in other directions. It was hard to watch them leave because I sort of felt we were all part of the team that saved the show.

I think it was really struggling that they brought it back in ratings and everything. Soon after, he left the show also. according to the New Yorker quote after his final episode Thomas writes the cast and crew gathered around and presented him with a gift a token of deep appreciation

for his outstanding service that made him tear up was a small pedestal topped with a bottle of wood glue he's the glue glue glue that's nice Harvin developed his own variety show

the Phil show and I think NBC was right on board with it but it fell through in the end it wasn't picked up i think mc said that it was those variety shows they just weren't working anymore or something like that they went with his nemesis dr phil they um he i think he has said that he kind of after he was like he's kind of a relief because it would have had to have sweat blood every week to make it work yeah um uh in 1999 he signed on to co-star and a

new NBC sitcom instead called News Radio. Do you ever remember that? I used to watch it. I remember enjoying it. It vaguely rings a bell. Yeah, he was the slick talkback radio host. Right. But there was a bunch of other people in on the show.

So the news radio focused on the staff of the New York City News Radio station with an ensemble cast that also included Dave Foley, Stephen Root, Andy Dick, Joe Rogan, he's now a huge podcaster, Maura Tierney, Ficky Lewis and Candy Alexander. Yeah, okay, I do remember the show, vaguely. He, along with Bryn and their two children, Sean and Bergen, moved from New York to Encino, California, which is where he started working on that show. His character was the smug radio announcer named Bill McNeil.

Another classic smug character. Yeah. I wonder what, I mean, he plays that, Smarmy character so well. It's a bit like, because Adam Scott is another one who plays an asshole super well. And then you see him in a nice role and you're like, what? Yeah, you're waiting for the twist. It's really confusing.

Or you see interviews with him and he seems like, he's quite dry, but he seems really nice. And it's like, I don't know how to feel. I think Phil Hartman's one of those where I kind of, I assume he's a prick. Right. You know, because that's all I've seen him do. I'm a great actor. Yeah, exactly. He's probably, well, I don't know.

He might have been a lovely person. Yeah, well, it sounds like, I mean, who knows for sure? But it sounds like he was such. He wasn't, maybe wasn't the best of relationships, but it sounds like everyone, his friends are all like, oh, he's just a lovely, really down and worth normal guy. I mean, people wouldn't have been so appreciative of working with him. Yeah, then.

And he's riding and his talent if he was an asshole. You're not getting called the glue. You got to be so, like Chevy Chase was also brilliant on SNL, but he wasn't getting bought gifts, I don't think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was sort of famously disliked. He was given glue when they asked him to glue his mouth shark. Yeah, it's quite different.

So, yeah, he must have been lovely, but I just see him as a prick. And then the other part of that is like, oh, he's worked so hard on the show. You know, you read something, like everyone's got their theories about things afterwards, and that's getting into sort of the weird gossipy stuff, but they'd be like maybe he was too focused on. the work and not enough on his home life and stuff but you know yeah like no one knows apart from the people in a relationship really of course uh critics like the show news radio like it got got all positive reviews basically but it's struggled to find an audience and NBC moved its airtime around the

grid which really frustrated hartman um he did say like he early on he was like he hated he's like just you're killing its chances by moving around which i know is a thing but then he later on he said it hey, you know, this isn't brain surgery. It's just a comedy show. It's no big deal. So, uh, CBS. It had several brushes with cancellation and was surprisingly renewed for a fifth season in 1998.

I tell you know, a sitcom that gets five seasons is quite a big success. But it was the kind of thing, kind of like Mike Myers. It seemed like they were always assuming that it might probably get canceled at the end of this season. It's not quite rating high enough. But then, oh, we'll get another year and we'll get another year. CBS also noted that, quote, Harmon had as many hobbies as careers,

an avid surfer, fisherman and scuba diver. He loved sailing and owned as many as three boats at once. More boats than the Iraqi Navy, he once observed. Good observation. He played guitar, often jamming with fellow S&L cast members, Dana Carvey, who played guitar and drums and Lovets on keyboard, and took up flying a plane when he was in his 40s. You know that scene in Wayne's World where Garth

just shreds, shreds on the drums. Yeah. It's not really shredding on drums, is it? But he just has that massive drum solo. Yeah. That was Dana Carvey.

Yeah, right. That was him really planned. Yeah. He wails. I like to play. I like to play. To play. Tagline for that movie is you'll laugh,

you'll cry, you'll hurl. That was a trivia question in a online trivia I played last week. If you're going to spew. Spew into this. I like to play. Brin continued. a battle with drug addiction, his wife. And during the news radio Christmas party in 1997,

Hartman's co-star, Andy Dick, gave Bryn some cocaine after she asked if he had any. Apparently, I think supposedly she was on, she had been on a break and in sort of recovery. Hartman's friend John Lovett's blamed Dick for Brin relapsing. Though Dick told 2020 that she was already in relapse mode, which I didn't even know she had a problem with at all in the first place. but yeah that's the thing that um i think and dick and john love it still they've had a like a this is big falling out wow um um according to the new yorker brin started drinking and using cocaine and they fought hartman like buying cars boats and even a plane then piloting them away from his family often with a friend to unwind this is quite passivity not saying that word right and his love

of smoking pot could be alienating and frustrating brin became increasingly unhappy. He had guns. Brin had a gun. Sometimes when she wanted to argue with him before bed, he pretended to be asleep. The exact details of what happened on the night of May 27th. This is where we get to the, just as a like a little buffer in case any, if no one listens to it with their kids, but in case there's a little warning for you for those out there in La La Land, which is what I call listener listener, listener land. The A is asylum. Listenar, listen ah, listen our land.

The exact details of what happened on the night of May 27, 1998 and into the early hours of the following day remain somewhat of a mystery. But according to the ABC News Report, quote, this is all from the news report. Bryn Hartman went out for drinks that night with her friend Christine Zander before driving over to her friend

and former lover Ron Douglas's house at around 1015pm. Douglas declined ABC News' request for comment, but according to what he told police, Bryn Hartman had a few beers and complained to him about her husband. He told police she left his house around 12.45 a.m., got into her car and returned home. Sean Hartman would reportedly later tell police that he heard sounds he likened to the slamming of a door. At 3.45 as Ron Douglas would recall, counter police. He was awoken by someone's pounding at the front door. It was Bryn. She told Ron,

I killed Phil. I don't know why. Douglas told police he didn't believe her at first, but then a gun fell out of Brin's purse. He took it away from her and put it in the trunk of his car. The two drove in separate cars back to the Hartman home, where Douglas found Phil's body in his bed. Police would later discover he'd been shot three times. Ron stepped away to the hallway to call 911 and then he discovered Brin had locked herself in the master bedroom. It was about 6 a.m. and the quiet street of Encino, California was suddenly swarming with police, news cameras and a gathering crowd of onlookers. Ron handed the gun to police, but had no idea if there were any other weapons in the house. As 9-year-old Sean and 6-year-old Bergen were being whisked to safety, another shot rang out.

When police reached the master bear room, they were greeted with silence. We go through the door, we find a man lying on the bed. He has a bullet hole through his forehead. There's a woman lying next to him, and she also has a gunshot wound, responding LAPD officer Daniel Karnahan said, looking at the bodies, it's obvious that they were not alive. Bryn had killed herself after taking Phil's life,

which was hours earlier. For me, it is one of the most tragic scenes. Hartman had actually experienced the American dream that most people don't get to experience, Kahnan said. To have that taken away in this fashion seems so contradictory and so out of place and so unfair. Los Angeles County Medical Examiner Craig Harvey later determined that Bryn Hartman had a blood alcohol level of 0.12 as well as cocaine and Zoloft in her system that night.

I think Zoloft is a, some sort of prescription medicine, I think. Greg Omdahl said the murder suicide was like getting punched in the gut because I knew my sister would never murder anyone. It was such a hard thing to face. A year after the murder, suicide, Greg Omdahl filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Pfizer. How do you say that? Pfizer? Yeah.

It's like one of those big pharmaceutical companies. So he sued them, the maker of Zoloft, on behalf of the Hartman estate. Omdahl said, I did file a lawsuit against Pfizer, alleging that the use of Zoloft caused my sister to not know what she was doing. And she shot her husband. And when she came out of that, she shot herself. When the lawsuit was filed in 1999, Pfizer gave a statement to sell on health that, quote, there's no scientific or medical evidence that Zoloft causes violent or suicidal behavior. The suit was settled for $100,000 and there was no admission of any wrongdoing.

Well, yeah, I mean, combined with cocaine and a lot of alcohol, you can't blame one of those things. Yes. You know, it's the cocktail of all of them. and her personal makeup and awful like so many things so many things the scenario and like it's so tragic and awful but i don't think you can sue a pharmaceutical company for that it's such a i i don't know why i was not prepared into i'm like phil hartman this is going to be a fun episode and i did even though i did in the back of my mind i knew it ended tragically but i didn't so wasn't prepare myself for it i'd forgotten how right so yeah that's awful and

And this is so dumb that this is what I thought of. But when she's banging on the friend's door, I was like, who's with the kids? Right. That was my thought. Yeah. And then it's like, I killed Phil and I'm like, but who's with the kids? Yeah, yeah. Well, no one at that point.

Shit. So they're nine and eight? Nine and six or something? The kids? Yeah. Awphoned in a night. Yeah. Yeah.

I had some, this article had some quotes from now. and I'm just like, are too heartbreaking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good call there, I think. Bryn's sister Kathy and her husband, this is kind of a nice thing. Brin's sister Kathy and her husband raised both Sean and Bergen in the Midwest. So they were able to be raised by their uncle and Artie.

Yeah, by family. Back in the Midwest, which I believe is like, you know, you'd be getting right away from the wild Hollywood lifestyle and all that sort of stuff. A little bit of anonymity. Yeah. Hopefully. And Greg, Gomdahl said that they grew up as loved children. By 2019, Sean was 31. So this is from an article

last year, all of this. By 2019, Sean was 31 and pursuing his dreams of being an artist and musician. And Bergen was 27, recently married and had started a business that's doing really well according to Gregomdale. So that's good. Yeah. Obviously, you'd never get over, but they've got, sounds like they've got things together as much as I can. Greg added, I believe my sister would be very proud of how Sean and Bergen have grown up and the people they've turned into. News Radio, which had only been renewed for a fifth season

just prior to that tragic night, did a memorial episode and brought in John Lovitz into the cast due to his closeness to Hartman and as a way for the show to try and cope with his loss. According to Heavy.com, in August 2014, Hartman was awarded a posthumous star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. His brother John accepted the honour on Phil's behalf.

Hartman's former SNL co-stars Lovitz and Kevin Neeland were on hand to speak about their late friend. Hartman's longtime agent, Betty Fanning McCann, was also there to honour him. Phil Hartman was very loved by Hollywood and we are thrilled that he's being honoured with his own star. This man made millions laugh for years and will always be treasured, said Leron Goobler. Great name. Hollywood Chamber of Commerce, President and CEO at the time.

So I'm trying, I'm ending with some slightly more. The name, Gubley is amazing. Yeah. Yeah, I love that very much. Learne Goobler. How old was Phil, do you know? Even Ballpark. He was, so he died in 98, was born in 47, so.

Dave. Is that 50, 51? 51. Yeah, right. Packed a lot into a life, hey? Yeah, amazing. Yeah. One of those guys was like, like, oh, you designed iconic bands album covers.

So you did that that was your whole career? Oh, no, you just squeezed that in early. Yeah. And kind of a slow burner too, you know? Yeah, he didn't. Just always something happening. Yeah, that's right. But not like, you know, your leading man.

That's the kind of life I would want. I love to be in the chorus. Yeah. You know? Someone else be the star, sure. But I'm here still. That's kind of what you're on this show, Dave and I are the stars. I was going to say Dave.

I was thinking the same joke, but I was going to say Dave's the star, obviously. I thought it was funnier if I was like a bit, what am I thinking there? What's that word? It's like diluted, but it's not diluted. Deluded. Deluded. You're diluted. I'm not being diluted.

I'm so close. Diluted? No. Deluded. I thought that would be funny if I was dilutedly thinking of myself. Whereas I know that you two, I'm really the chorus and you two are the star. Okay, happy now. No, because now you're just fishing for us to say.

No, Matt, you're the star. That's just a true belief. Shut up, shut up. Shut up. Shut up. I'm sorry, did you just silence a woman? No, I was directing that at Dave. But if you also heard it, then great.

You two stars, you probably don't hear that a lot. No one says no to you, do they? Sorry, I'm surrounded by a yes man. Me, yes man. Great movie. Great movie. Well, it's probably a stretch, but a real fun movie. It's a fine movie.

chuck on. It's super underrated. I think it's got so many funny moments because it's got Reese Darby in it, who's just killer the whole way through. Jim Carrey's got good. So, he's so great. Bradley Cooper plays like a small role. Yeah.

Wild. He's a good sort of straight man character in it. There's some great scenes where Kerry's drunk and the fight. People are listening and you don't like Saturday Night Live, but you're like, yes man. I bet that's pissing some people off. I can't get a handle on what do you think is good. This quote goes on, sorry.

There's so much to say about this man, so deserving of this recognition. I guess I think this is still from our man, Lerun Goobler. Goobler. There's so much to say about this man, so deserving of this recognition, funny and respected among his peers. Oh no, sorry, this was Kevin Neeland. Damn it. He was pure funny.

Kevin Neelan also recently been on Conan's podcast. He was pure funny. He was a smart improviser and his nickname was glue because he held the sketches together. If one of us messed up, he covered for us. He was brilliant. As a final note, here is another excerpt from Joe Berkowitz's Vulture article. I'll finish with this paragraph. After Phil Hartman's untimely death in May of 1998, the producers of The Simpsons wisely decided not to find a replacement for the characters of Troy McClure or Lionel Hutz.

This move was both a display of respect to the actor and an admission that he was impossible to replace. Wow. Although he was nicknamed the glue for his work on Saturday Night Live, perhaps Hartman was also the secret weapon that kept the Simpsons together too. In order to maximise Hartman's limited availability, nearly every episode that featured Lionel Hutz also featured Troy McClure and vice versa, thus guaranteeing at least a couple of bankable extra laughs in every other episode.

That may not seem like a lot, but it adds to you. up. Phil Hartman was undoubtedly part of the reason why seasons two to nine of the Simpsons are roundly thought to be the show's best years. It's no coincidence. I think that makes sense to me as well. I mean there was a lot of factors but he was a big part of it. Yeah, definitely and it is so tragic that he died but it does also keep those characters in those golden years rather than every other character has now been in a lot of shitty episodes. Yeah. But those two characters never in an unfunny, un-golden episode. Because I was thinking that originally, I was like, well, if he died, how did,

but they didn't keep going with that character. Yeah, but we've just seen those episodes so much. Yeah. Wow. And you remember him so well. Oh, yeah. They're in so many episodes. They play through our minds a lot.

Yeah, yeah. And on this show, they play through our mouths a lot. My other favorite character is Duffman. Oh, Duffman's great. Duffman can't breathe. Oh, no. I did have a, I've got. A list of all of his you may know him from titles.

I can read a few if you like. Or maybe we could use a few of them for the Patreon show. Oh, yes. Oh, great. Yes. That's a great idea. Can I just ask as well, if you know, is Duffman and Disco Stu the same actor? Oh, I think they might be.

Yeah. In my head they sound the same. And it's one of the key cast, isn't it? Yeah. It sounds like Hank Azaria. Oh, yeah. But anyway, I guess this is, means it's now time for everyone's favorite section of the show, the fact quote of question.

section which has a jingle jess i think there's something a little like fact quote or question a little late there dave but he never forgets the ding can i quickly say while we're still talking simpsons just quickly of course the fact check at the end of the episode frank gary was the first architect to appear on the simpsons oh what was his role he played himself i believe when he scrunched up the paper is that it something was like a scrunched up piece of paper. Yes, the scrunched up piece of paper, yes. I don't remember that.

He scrunched, for summary, he scrunched up a piece of paper and that was like, oh, that's a great design. Oh. Because his buildings look pretty wild. Yeah,

like he designed the Guggenheim. The Guggenheim? No, just the annex. That's a George Costan. Oh, yeah. In Bilbao, yeah. All right. Well, the fact quote or,

oh, geez, our Simpsons fact checker who does a column weekly. you on our Patreon. Jacob Lane. Jacob has got his work cut out from this week. Oh, sorry, Jacob. Feel free to pick a few, I guess. Yeah, you really need.

Feel free to have a week off if you like it. Yeah, sorry about that. It feels like a thing that must now have become a burden to him. Yeah, you can stop any time. We love it, but there is no pressure. Of course. I was thinking today because I've just seen the first one, we are banking up a few of these fact quota questions.

I was thinking because just look at the next few or facts. So how about we do four this week? You'd be up for that? Four facts. Four facts. The next four fact quota questions are all facts. Are you like you're going to decide if they're fun or not.

Okay, yeah, sure. I was going to say you've got to stay on track and just like. Yes. Oh yeah, I'll stay on track, but we've still got to give them their time. Of course. Of course. They've been waiting patiently. So in this section you go to patreon.com slash do go on pod.

On there every every month it seems like there's new rewards. We've now got three bonus episodes on a certain tier. here on the fact quote or question tier, which is a Sydney-Sharmberg Deluxe Memorial Edition level tier, you get to give us a fact quote or question. You also would have voted on this week's topic. There was only, you know, it was, I said it was a landslide, but it was still only like 15, 20 votes that separate. And that's a landslide. Usually in this one, because there's not that many voters, every vote is worth quite a bit. But yeah, you get to give yourself a title in this as well.

Something I also should mention is you get into our Facebook group, which is for patrons only. And that's a lot of fun. There's a lot of discussion. Every day there's posts, people, listeners and, or patrons post and chat to each other. Some of those patrons have started a weekly Zoom catch up, which I've dropped in on in the last couple of weeks, which always feels like, you know, it feels like I'm the teacher coming in and and ruining the fun or something?

Yeah. Hey, guys, how's it going? I'm like, oh, hey, Matt. Yeah, hi, Mr. Stewart. No, we weren't smoking bombs. All right. But it's cool. Bye kids.

It's fun. I'm jumping in on this thing and it's like, oh, there's someone from Canada, someone from London, someone from Perth, someone from New Zealand. There's just people from all around the globe. Amazing. So that's if you, I mean, that's not an official reward,

but that is just a cool bonus thing that's happening and just an example of why it's a cool community in there. Just a real cool, fun place. And you're seeing people in there saying, oh, this is my happy place. Anyhow, it's a cool, that's a cool group. And, yeah, there's so many rewards. Too many to mention.

Just how I'm going to keep on track. I have done that. So here's a few facts from our fact quote or questioners this week. Firstly, coming from the junior comptroller of consuming media. It's Paul Jacob. Paul Jacob. I love comptroller. Where's that from?

They use that in the Simpsons. It's not an Australian term, is it? It's an American thing. I don't know what it means. Yeah, Superintended Charms is always scared of the Comptroller. He must be, yeah, must be next step up above the Super Nintendo. It's probably like the Ombudsman, which I never know what they do. Anyway, what's the fact?

His fact is, I love do go on. That is all. That is a succinct fact, and I'm going to say a fun one. That's fun. Oh, Paul Jacob, officially fun. Great fact. Congratulations. Thank you so much for all your great work as junior comptroller of consuming media.

You're doing God's work and we really do appreciate it. I'd also love to thank the general manager of not able to have nice things. It's Maximilian Duke. Maximilian Duke. If your name is real, God damn it. God, damn it. Congratulations, you. I started to say congratulate your parents for us.

And all I could say was congratch. Congratch. Congratch. Anyway. Daddy show. Daddy show. Congrats. Maximilium writes, I use a spoon to apply various spreads, soft cheeses, jams,

etc. to breads. You might think this is weird. Why not use a knife or a spreader like a civilized person? What's a spreader? Well, the convex side of a spoon possesses the perfect ergonomics for putting peanut butter on bread without having to lift it off a plate or risk dropping a cracker because you hold it awkwardly to get all the pimento cheese off a knife. It is especially great for putting cream cheese on a hot bagel.

Love a smear. Sandy Cohen taught us that. I love a fine. Perfect way to smear a bagel without burning your hand. Trust me. Give it a try. Is this the fact? Anyway, that's just a fact about me.

Tell me something interesting about you. Oh, and in case anyone, brackets Matt, question mark, is wondering what the convict side of the spoon is. I reckon I know what the... Come on, mate. I'm play dumb, but I actually am probably the smartest person in this room right now. Anyway, I'm guessing this is for listeners in case anyone doesn't get it at home. It's the bottom of the spoon when you're eating soup.

I think this rug is smarter than you. Basically, it's the spoon's undercarriage. He's explained his explanation. The bottom side when you're eating soup wasn't enough. Let me put it in real terms, as you might understand. It's the spoon's undercarriage. Which would also be a good band name. Spoon's undercarriage.

I think undercarriage in general would be a good band. Just undercarriage. Spoon is a good band already. Okay. Maybe a good cover band. Spoon cover band is Spoon. Undercourage. I went to my parents' place yesterday and we ate with spades.

Oh. Which is a fun blast from the past. The superior spork in my mind. Because it also has a nice knife edge. Anyway, finished by saying, Thanks for the laughs. Thank you for the facts, Maximilian Duke, that fact about spoon as spreaders. Any thoughts on that, Dave?

Keep smearing. I agree with them, maybe the smear. I use it fair to put avocado on toast. Yeah, avocado. You scoop it from the bowl because I've obviously smashed the avocado. And then you can get a scoop of it and then go flink and flick it on and then spread it out with the other, whatever the fuck he said, the other side of the spoon. The convex, man. The undercarriage.

The carriage, please. The boudoir. Whatever the fuck. I'm sorry if I sound a bit diluted here, but... I just say the spoons, bum bum. I do. I reckon, because I'm all about lessening, washing up. So I'll use a spoon.

If I've already used the spoon, I'll keep that spoon out for spreading for sure. Great. Because you can scoop out some spreadables easier with a spoon too. Anyway, thanks for that fact, Maximilian Duke. Is that fun? Well, it was a fact about him. It was a fun fact. Great.

Next up, Chief Bison Rangler, Northeast Division. Oh. This is from Luke Durham. Love that title. I think I've said this on the record. Bison, one of my favorite animals. Bison. Did a Year 7 project for geography about the North American Bison.

Big fan. I love... Was it a poster? I love... Yeah, it was a poster. Love a poster. I love a thick animal. Yeah.

That's why I love Wombats. On average, this is fact, on average, sloths travel 41 yards per day, meaning they would be excellent pets for self-isolation. That's a great fun fact. But I mean... So what, they can't go far? They can't. They're so freaky. I don't know if I want to be...

They're weird. I have one in my house apart from, you know, cruelty or whatever, than the animals. But they just, they also move in a creepy way. Imagine waking up and seeing a really slow-moving shadow next to your bed like that. Actually, that'd be great. Your problem is that it's not thick enough. Not thick enough. They're the opposite.

They're spindly. They are. I'm enough spindly in one house, okay? What do they eat? Sloths? Yeah. It have to be if it's another animal, it'd have to be a slow one. I don't think they eat other animals.

Well, then most plants are pretty slow. Yeah, that's true. Thank you for that fact. Luke, fun or not? Fun. Oh, my God. We're on a hot streak. The patrons are on today.

Let's see. Let's round it out number four. Finally, with Fact Four from the director of craft services for do go on. Matthew Bohr. Your work will not go un thanked. Yeah, we love craft services. Boer. B-O-E-R.

He's a real booer. Some people are thinkers. Some people are booers. He's given us a fact. For the original Terminator, oh, Dave, this. be up here. You guys haven't seen Terminator yet? No.

I haven't know. Do yourselves. Sorry. When you watch Back to the Future trilogy, I'll think about it. All right. I've watched number one. I've watched one. You watch one.

Okay. I'll watch two. I think in both of them two is the classic. True. Although I do love practice of Future One. I think it goes in order for me, two, one three. That'd be the same with Terminator. Oh, there you go.

But not. Die Hard. Yeah. Die Hard is one's the best. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's got the best bad guy of all time. Too all for this shit.

That's so different. That's lethal weapon. I'm just saying. Phil Harmon was in the spoof of, loaded weapon. So this is from Matthew Bohr. He offers us this fact. For the original Terminator, a lot of actors were being looked at for the role

before Arnold Schwarzenau became the iconic Terminator. Along one of the suggested, among one of the suggested people to play the role was O.J. Simpson. Whoa. But James Cameron didn't believe he could play a convincing killer. Oh, wow. That is pretty great, if true. OJ never did any screen testing, though Arnold was under the assumption for years.

OJ was close to being the lead, even saying that James Cameron had done a painting with OJ's face on a Terminator poster, then painting over it with Arnold's face. He painted his own movie posters? That's the fact. That's a, you just buried the lead there. He's, because he's the one in Titanic. Right.

The drawing of Rose. That is James Cameron. Ah. His drawing. No kidding. He's a good artist, yeah. That's right. Dave, that's a fun fact.

Thank you. So he wrote himself into a scene to draw naked Kate Winslet. Basically. Wow. It's a different time, hey? Different time. There, all the fact. quote or questions for this week.

A fantastic array of facts. Can I just say number four? Fun fact. We did it. Four out of four. And a bonus in there that James Cameron paints his own posters. Five out of four. Wow.

That ain't bad. So good. All right. That brings us to thanking our other patronagell supporters. You can get involved in this if you're on the certain level there. I think it's the five buck level. DB Cooper level. DB Cooper level.

And this. week, I'd love to kick it off. Are we going to, I'll give them a couple of their own titles. Yes, please. That would be awesome. And I'm starting with, who's been waiting patiently since October 2018, from Melbourne, Victoria. It's Miss Alexandra Joy.

What a name. A name that is, I'd say, pretty happy. That is a happy name, Miss Joy. And you might know Miss Joy from... You might remember me. As the boat jacking of Super Ship 79. Calling all Quakers. The itchy and scratchy movie.

The contrabulous fab traption of Professor Horatio Huffnagle. Cryuma and David versus Super Goliath. That's fun. Have you got one that long for all of them? Well, I've just got a list. I can read as many as you want. That's sick. Alexander Joy.

Thank you for bringing the joy. Thank you. Miss Alexandra Joy. Thank you so much for waiting patiently. Thank you so much for your ongoing support. It means a lot. You keep this show running. Legend.

And from our own hometown. Love that. Thank you, Miss Joy. I'd also love to thank from Calabasas in the United States of America and CA, which is California, right? California. California. I'd love to thank Larry first. Yes.

But who's second? The hype was so. Oh, Larry. You might know Larry first for such films as Dial M for murderousness. The electric jigolo. The erotic adventures of Hercules. Give my remains to Broadway.

Gladys, the groovy mule. The Good Time Slim, Uncle Doobie and the great Frisco freakout. And Alice doesn't live here anymore. No, Alice doesn't live anymore. Fuck this. That's amazing. Thanks, Larry. Thanks, Larry.

A couple of fantastic names to kick off. I doubt you'll be able to top it, but I'd love to see you have an attempt. Can I have a crack? Please. I would love to thank from Nottingham in Great Britain. I would love to thank Emma Smith. Oh, M.R. Smith. Not Emma, M.R.

Oh, M.R. Smith. You might know him from such films. as make out king of Montana Meet Joe Blow The Muppets go medieval P is for psycho preacher with a shovel The president's neck is missing

Or radioactive man One two and three Including bring on the sequel And oh God not again And of course The Revenge of Abe Lincoln That's funny that it's That became an even more ridiculous film

In real other Abraham Lincoln Vampire Killer Yeah. Sounds like a Troy McClure. Oh, that's great. Thank you so much, M.R. Smith. Thank you so much. And I would also love to thank from Holyhead in Wales.

Kieran Desmond. On your Kieran. On your Kieran. Fantastic, Kieran. It is so good to make your acquaintance. And the others, of course, would know him from the seven-year-old bitch. Sorry. Like the seven-year-old bitch.

Seven-year-old bitch. You can imagine James Cameron painting the poster. Oh, my goodness. Sorry, I've lost my place. That was so good. Sorry, wrong closet, which is one of the ones that he said on Letterman. Suddenly, last supper, they came to Bergle. And today we came.

Still tomorrow we die. I'm going to give you a couple more. The verdict was male fraud and the wackiest covered wagon in the West. Fantastic films. Kieran. Kieran, congratulations on an amazing filmography. Such fine work. Well, can we thank one Kieran and then thank another?

Oh. From Lester in Great Britain. I would like to thank Kieran Foster. Kieran Foster. Kieran is the last one. Two go. Great. Well, I've still got heaps, actually.

Well, you might know Kieran from such educational films and self-help videos as 60 minutes of car crash victims. Adjusting your self-o-stat. Alice's adventures through the window with the windshield glass. Birds, our fine feathered colleagues. The decapitation of Larry Ledfoot. Designated drivers. The life-saving nerds.

Dig your own grave. save earwigs ooh firecrackers the silent killer earwigs ooh I can hear

in his voice that it would have been amazing Fuzzy Bunny's guide to you know what she's faking it and

get confidence stupid oh Kieran fantastic stuff you've have a fantastic filmography and finally

I would like to thank from Hearn Hill in Western Australia Curtis Dylan Berenic

You might know Curtis from such educational films as the half-assed approach to foundation repair locker room towel fights the blinding of Larry Driscoll Man versus nature The Road to Victory

Meat and you Partners in Freedom Meat spell M-EAT That one's a real Mummy what's wrong With that man's face Mothballing your battleship

Phony tornado alerts Alerts reduce readiness Shoplifters Beware yourself thin and someone's in the kitchen with DNA and of course whoa don't touch me there thanks Curtis thank you Curtis there's so many good ones one of my favorites is the greatest story ever hoollered I skipped down because I didn't know how to pronounce it it's about hula hooping is that it great greatest story ever hoon what you're talking about that's so good I

I fully did not get that. The greatest story ever hooded. I'm like, H-U-L-A-E-D. I'm like, what does that mean? I'm going to go and watch Best of Lionel Huts on YouTube now. Oh, Lionel. That's so good.

I wasn't wearing a tie at all. Thank you to all of those great supporters. Thank you. We love your work. And like we say, you keep the bloody show running. but maybe even more so the triptage club a very exclusive club for people who have been supporting us like those good people we just read out but for three years straight which to be honest some of them are getting close to because it's taking us so long to read out their names

yeah let me just while I check if anyone's been inducted into the triptitch exclusive club today Dave do you want to explain what it is and Jess what are they eating and drinking So yes, people that have been supporting the show at the shout-out level for three consecutive years, so 36 months without dropping off. My goodness, we tip our hats to thee and also induct you into this exclusive club and usually for the people that are already in

and the new inductees, Jess, organises a fantastic menu. Sometimes it's food, sometimes there's drinks, sometimes it's both. And this week, we are honouring our star of the show, Dave Warnocker with his favorite drink, a pinocolado. Oh, thank you so much. Yeah.

If you like pinocoladas. I do. That song is fucked. It is not. It's not good. The opening line is I was tired of my lady. We'd been together too long. I was tired of my lady.

Like a worn out recording of your favorite song. It's brutal, but as it turns out, she was sick of him as well. Yeah. And then they got together again. Yeah. Very confusing. Anyway, so we're having peanut colladas and then to complement that deep fried pineapple.

Oh, fritters. Pineapple fritters. Yum. And also. What a tropical holiday. Cesadiers. I don't go at all, but that's just what we have on the menu. Oh, well, I mean, these are all being added to the menu as well, right?

Oh, yeah. It's an extensive menu. Who's playing in the corner? We actually have our Rupert Holmes playing his peanut collada song on Loop. Oh. But you don't get sick of it. Oh, great. Like an old, like your favorite song.

Oh, you like be like a lot. Everyone's like, yes, play it again, Rupert. That's funny because I was born sick of it. If you're not into yoga. It's a magical place. If you have half a brain, very patronizing. Have you like making love at midnight? Who likes making love at midnight?

I've got to get to work tomorrow. He's kind of setting a low standard in some points there. If you've got half a brain. Yeah. And you're not into yoga. All right, well, fuck. Parody song. Okay, that's a weird stipulation, but sure.

What about parody song? Have you like making love on Bin Night? Good of fun. Man, I'm confident. Weird Al's beating you to that one. Is that true? Surely. Probably not Bin Night.

I don't know. It's so good if the whole song is around that one. Have you like making love on Bin Night? That's a specific one, but. Yeah. All right. So there are four inductees into the Triptage Club this week who are enjoying those things. Dave, when he figures out,

Coding is also going to put all these names up on the website on a special page in sparkly gold font. Or if anyone wants to, any coders out there who want to get in touch with Dave, you know, do it. I mean, if they're really good, they'll hack the website and do it themselves. Yeah. Now, that'd be good. That's a challenge to you, Coders. You challenging people to hack our website? No, please don't do that.

I mean, what are they going to find? Well, they won't find, but they'll just put up stuff there like a picture of the But, oh, we did that already. Yeah, or something like Dave flipping them off, for example. We hacked our own website. If you click on your mom's butt tab, you'll see a photo of Dave. It's still funny after all these years. We are eventually going to get around to redoing the website.

Anyway, four inductees into the club tonight. Come in behind the velvet rope, make yourselves at home. From London, we have John Thelner. Welcome, John. from Royal Oak in M-I-U Michigan Michigan

I don't know is that right it's John Cole Wilkinson I feel it this is when we go for all the time You gotta be confident man is Michigan Well done From Leicestershire in Great Britain

It's Sam Henson And from West Sussex Also in Great Britain It is Sarah Gru Welcome welcome Welcome all make yourselves at home enjoy the cocktail. Enjoy the cocktail song about cocktails.

We've got to dance for. We've also got a lounge area. And the music is like a good amount for dancing, but it's not too overpowering instead of a chat. It's the perfect level. I love that. So welcome in. Thank you so much.

But that's great. I love welcoming people into the Trip to Shogden. I love the Patreon segment of show. Generally, one of my favorite sections of the show. It's a beautiful time. And a reminder as well that we do have that web series. with our second episode coming out on Friday. That's right.

If you're listening to this in the future, we might have all nine episodes out. Yeah. You can binge it. Oh my God. How lucky are you. Just go to, there'll be a link in the show notes,

or you can just go to YouTube. com slash stupid old channel. We've also got our own YouTube channel, which is slash dig on pod, where we put all these episodes up, and a bunch of those episodes are in video format. Yeah. I know.

Wow. It's pretty exciting. In all three Ds. Well, two Ds. Two days in those cases. You can find us on all socials. do go on pod and our email address is do go on pod at gmail.com. But I think that's all that we have to say.

Yeah, I think merch is back up and about. We have to shut it down because of COVID-related mailing restrictions, but that should be up soon. Yeah. Sorry, I thought it was up. Not yet, but I can do it again soon. But it's coming up soon. And I've got ideas for some new merch shirts. Great.

Which I want to tell you about. Okay. I reckon we should start adding a few extra shirts in there. What do you think? Okay. I'll talk about this off air. Sounds good. Dave, any final requests?

Um, yeah, I would love a cheese board. Okay. What's your favorite? Oh, I know you like a blue cheese. I like a soft blue. Yep. I love a cammin bear. Well, I like a...

That's a lie. I like a breeder. I'm the basic bitch of cheese. I mean, Bree. Oh, Bree might be... You're there with me. Bree's pretty basic bitch. I love a cheddar, maybe a smoky cheddar.

I love a bit of quince pace and I certainly don't mind a dip. Oh yeah. Hummus. I love some olives. Calamata if you please. Oh me. Me too. No, don't like them.

You guys can go nuts. Anyways, nuts. Nuts. Yes, please. Almons, cashews, Brazil nuts, walnuts. It's fun coming down here to record south of the Yarra so I can have these fancy discussions about cheeseballs. This has never been so many loud cars go past my house ever. until we're recording.

I reckon, do you reckon some of them cut through? I don't know. But if they didn't, have you heard them, sorry about that. But it is very unlike this street. Yeah, this is a little dead-end street. Yeah, like me. In a dead end down. I tried to wrap it up and then we just went on another tangent.

Anyway, that's the end for this week. Thanks so much everyone for joining us. We'll be back next week with another episode. But yeah, in between before next week's episode, there'll be a new web episode. So check that out on the stupid old channel. Please like and subscribe and share with your friends. It would be great to get it out there amongst the world. Please.

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