Do Go On - 241 - The Death of Edgar Allan Poe

Episode Date: June 3, 2020

Edgar Allan Poe is often referred to as the most influential American writer of all time. He pioneered the short story and also wrote the first ever detective novel. But he saved his greatest mystery for last... his death. Why did the greatest writer of his generation go missing for a week, before turning up in another city, wearing clothes that didn't belong to him?Our new weekly web series on Stupid Old Channel is out now:https://youtube.com/stupidoldchannelOur website: dogoonpod.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicListen to Dave and Matt on Book Cheat, talking about Poe's first ever detective story, The Murders In The Rue Morgue:https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatBut tickets to the video stream of the final Prime Mates this Saturday June 6:https://sospresents.com/programs/live-0tynwrrblcw?categoryId=42034Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/04/27/the-humbughttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/still-mysterious-death-edgar-allan-poe-180952936/https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/edgar-allan-poe-became-era-premier-storyteller-180971001/

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnocky and as always I'm sitting here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins.

Hi Dave. Hey, Bobbies. Hello. Hi, Jess. Hi Dave. There we go. I actually can sing in all eight octaves. Wow. All of them. There's no more than that.

That's amazing. Actually. So we're just going to quickly let everyone know about some exciting stuff going on, including at the stupid old channel where we've got our web series up. Two episodes are up so far about the badass Nancy Wake, who was from the World War II and had one of the most amazing lives. And also the first episode was about the history of the Hollywood sign. And the other thing, I just want to create.

mention is that primates, another show on this little podcast network, is finishing up this week with a live stream in the same way we did the do-go on live streams. This Saturday, midday Melbourne time and tickets are on sale at sosspresents.com. There'll be a link in the show notes. Yeah, so it'd be cool if you can get along and watch. If you're primates fans, you'll obviously enjoy it more, but I reckon it'll be fun for anyone to jump in. They'll be familiar face and that sort of stuff.

I'm hoping Dave and Jess can pop in, but I think Dave said he could. Jess ignored my message, but I'll keep... Well, uh, well, played, just ignore him.

Well, first he asked us to buy tickets to the show and then said, no pressure, but if you're around, pop it. So I'm a bit confused. So you want us to do,

do we have to buy a ticket and then turn up? Yeah, yeah. How about Dave turns up and I buy a ticket? I'm not watching, but I'll, I'll buy a ticket.

Support you. That was a little joke that I hope you buy a ticket thing. It was a little joke you want us to turn up as well? Because I took it as a joke. I think I laugh reacted in the group chat, I think. Good one, Matt. I have been, well, I've been saying special guests without naming names just in case anyone is taking it as a joke.

But I think it will be a lot of fun anyway, but not as fun as this episode of. Dugan, which is about to happen. That is right. So there's a link in the description to the web series, and we've got seven more episodes coming out over the next few weeks. Yeah, coming out every Friday. And we're doing premieres of those if you want to jump on

and comment along with us. And if you follow us at Dugan Pot on, the social media's, we'll tell you what time they'll be. Yeah, it's bloody exciting. And thanks for everyone that's already checked it out. And also a link to the final primates where Jess can buy tickets in the description. But I should say as well with the web series, it would be real cool if you can, if just to share it with your friends or anyone who you think might enjoy it,

yeah, we just thought maybe it's an easier thing to share around than a podcast. People can just click on a link and watch. So maybe if you want to, make as many people as you know watch it. That would be really nice. At gunpoint. Yeah, for sure. Little joke there. I know some people who listen.

and are big gun people. So that was only a joke. Don't do it at gunpoint. Please. Knife point. That's another little joke. We know some people who listen, own knives. Knife people.

Fist point. Hold of at fist point. You've got a lot of violent listeners. Anyway, the way this show works, the podcast, the classic form of the show, is one of the three of us goes away and researches a topic. Normally one that's been suggested by a listener. And then they come back and bring that report to the group.

And that's happening here today with Dave Warnocky telling Jess and I about a little something. But Jess and I don't know what it is. And he's going to get us onto the topic with a question. And this question goes a little something like this, Dave. My question is, which author of The Raven and The Tell-Tale Heart died mysteriously in 1849? Matt Groaning. Oh, they have done an adaptation of The Raven, an episode that confused a whole whole. the generation of Simpsons fans.

It was my least favorite Simpsons episode for a long time. Probably still is. No, that's not true. I've seen worse. No, it's still the one where he ends up in the real world. Oh, yeah. That upsets me so much every time.

Erotic cakes. Is it Edgar Allan Poe? It is Edgar Allan Poe. Wow. Okay, I want to clarify that I did know Edgar Allan Poe, but my face before of confusion was that I did not know he died in mysterious ways. Yes, and that is what we're going to talk about today. He's death.

Oh, we're talking about his death? Yeah, we're going to talk both. Yeah, talking about his life. I reckon most of his achievements he were when he was alive. Well, you say that. Ghost of Po? Where do we'll get to this topic or Edgel and Toe? Post.

Is he the one who invented posts? Edgallon Post. It's been suggested by in one form or another by Kevin Packrad. Oh, Kevin. He must have had the most suggestions that have turned into topics. The hit rate is very high. He's got it out there, yeah. He's from New York.

Alec McElroy from Lawrence in Kansas and Mandy in Miami. Mandy from Miami. Mandy in Miami. We salute thee. Thank you, Mandy in Miami. And the other two. Go he. Eric.

Mandy in Miami is my number one. Where's Eric from? Alec. From Kansas. Kansas. Oh, there's no place like home. Alec, good on you. Thanks for the suggestion.

Appreciate. New York, New York. City of Never Sleas. The Big Apple. I'm walking here. Mm-hmm. Et cetera. Edgar Allan Poe wrote some of the greatest horror stories ever written.

Ah. He also wrote the first ever detective novel, The Murders in Rue Morg, covered on this week's book sheet with my friend Matt Stewart. Oh, that was great fun. Great fun. Which will record tomorrow. I was like, have you forgotten?

Not at all, but you, okay. So by the time this comes out, that will already be out. So check that out on the book sheet feed if you want to, we're doing like a bit of a crossover this week. I forgot about that. Because there's a monkey involved in this as well somehow. Well, I don't want to spoil too much. Oh, I can't wait to listen.

This is a triptitch, all three of our four podcasts. Is there an album we can do and listen now? Yeah, the cold tizzle song, Edgar Allan Poe. Well, we're now, the next season is going to be about, any band. Well, he's definitely very influential in many artistic forms. I reckon you'd be able to find something. All right, great.

Well, by the end of this episode, we should have decided on an album. Maybe we can, yeah, we'll do an episode on that as well. Oh, that's fun. We could do a four-way this week, finally. Finally. Well, so he is very influential, as I just said, the Smithsonian list him as the most influential American author ever. Really?

It has been said that, quote, no other American writer has had as enduring and pervasive and influence on popular culture. Wow. Outside of his profound influence on literature and culture, he lived a weird life and had an even weirder death. Why did the greatest writer of his generation go missing for a week before being found in another city wearing clothes that didn't even belong to him? This is the life and death of Edgar Allan Poe.

What, you've never borrowed clothes from a stranger? I never died in him. Yet. Okay, well, Dave, here's the thing. when you die and I'll be notified, I'm going to turn up and put you in some of my clothes and then be like, oh, that's weird. Oh, what a weird out.

That's weird. Dave was wearing my clothes when he died. And then you'll feel like a real fool. I'll feel like a fool for what you just said. And you'll be arrested for murder. Even if you didn't do it. I didn't do it. The DNA will be all over it.

In my own clothes. I didn't think this true. So Edgar Allan Poe was born on January 19th, 1809 in Boston, Massachusetts. I'm pronouncing that obviously incorrectly Matt. How do I say that? Massachusetts. Thank you so much. He was the son of two actors, Eliza and David Poe.

Ugh, actors, am I right? Well, yes. He was possibly named after a character in King Lear, a play his parents had appeared in. Just looking at the character list, they chose Edgar, but he could have been called Kent, Oswald, or Old Man. Oh, old man, Alan Poe.

My drama teacher, um had kids after i left school one of their middle names was montagu and i was like oh come on give that kid a chance i'm a drama teacher middle name at least that's scary i think that's where you get to have a little fun yeah that's a bit of fun my mom went for her own name when she named me my parents yeah went very well both of our parents yeah or my name is david james mcbeth Warnaby. Mine's Matthew James T-Bird Stewart.

From Greece. I was like, I don't remember that Shakespeare character but he's got a lot of plays. I don't know them all. Teabird. I'm Jessica and Wayne Campbell Permanitz. I won't teeth because the Montague's versus Capulets,

T-birds versus whoever. Oh, right. Both very big literary. Yes. Am I saying that right? Huge. It works. It works.

Okay, so he's named after a character in King Lear. Because his parents were active, but he had a tragic childhood after his father left his mother and died soon after, and she died soon after a tuberculosis. Oh, no. His father then died that same year when he was only about two years old. So Edgar and his older brother and younger sister were all orphaned, sorry, when he was just three years old, yeah. Oh, shit. Maybe that. So hang on, he's got an older brother and a younger sister.

Yeah. Damn. But they were all split up and sent out. to different families. Maybe instead of T-birds, it could have been T-Burks. And they're all kids of people who died of tuberculosis. Tebris. Tebris.

We're the T-Burks. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. Yes. I reckon. Yeah. Because it's obviously very sad, but then maybe, you know.

You got a cool gang name out there. Yeah, and you bond with other people who've gone through the same thing. Turn that frown upside down. Yeah. Yeah, we're playing for pinks. So they're all, yeah. So, actually, The siblings were all split up and sent to different families.

Edgar was taken in by John Allen and his wife, Francis Valentin Allen, in Richmond, Virginia. John Allen was a wealthy tobacco merchant who also dealt in slaves. This was in a slave era in America. Well, it would have been weird if he was dealing in slaves outside of a slave era. Yes, no. Great point. Yeah, okay. I still don't like that about him, but it does make me understand it a little more.

Yeah, I hated about him. Yeah. Yeah, I've got to tell his dad, well, he's adopted dad, John. Not a great guy, so I am painting him in that way, to be honest. He never formally adopted Edgar, and according to the New Yorker, he never loved him either. But Edgar did start writing his name as Edgar Allan Poe. So before this, he was just Edgar Poe. Okay, Edgar Allan Poe is better.

It sounds good. I mean, that wasn't respect to his stepfather, it was just a better sounding name. Yeah. Like a stage name. You know? Page name. Like a page name. I like that.

The two clusters, they had different. That's just my page name. That's just my page name. Sounds good. I love that. Although non-deplum is fun to say. That is true. That's why it's probably always going to win.

Sucked in, page name. Damn it. Which we just made up and destroyed. We birthed you. We killed you. That's very Shakespearean. Yeah. Yeah.

Is it very Pauwilian? Yeah, was that, I think that was a quote from T-Bird. I don't know I've gone Greece mad today. I love it. I haven't seen it in a long time. It's all right. Well, now we know what you're doing tonight. Is T-Bird even right?

I think so. I never liked Greece that much. I didn't either. So I think you're right. I think maybe I kind of did. It's fine. But it was, as a kid, old things just felt like, oh, it's so old. Yeah.

And it was an old movie set even older. Exactly. So it just felt, ugh. Would it surprise you, I said I was a big fan? Yes. Well, you'd be correct. I do not like it at all. You hate musicals.

A flying car, what were they thinking? It makes no sense. There's no other kind of magic or whimsy in the whole fucking thing, and then they fly off at the end. What are you talking about? I did watch it a lot as a kid. One of the things we obviously had on tape. And I watched most of it, but there was this one.

slow song we fast forwarded through every time. And she was on a swing. Yeah. And it always looked so funny as we fast forwarded through when she's swinging back with the board or something. That is fun. I miss fast forwarding. Yeah.

And I miss like being able to, you tape something off TV and then you'd fast forward through the ads and you'd know sort of which ad was last. Yeah. And so you'd press play at the right time because it would slow down slowly and then play. And you'd feel like a fucking king if you nailed it. Oh, yeah. But if you didn't, oh, you'd have to back it up.

I know, and it's the same, you're like, oh. It must be funny for like, there'll be 20-year-olds listening to this going, what the fuck are you old assholes talking about? And then having to rewind the tape before you took it back to Blockbuster. Yeah, there was a charge. Yeah, be kind of rewind. Yeah, remember that some places would charge you like a dollar or something for not rewinding? Yeah.

Those crooks. So weird. Yeah, crooks. Yeah, I reckon that'll catch up with him one day. Yeah. I reckon Blockbuster will go out of. They'll let them come up in one day. Very Shakespeare.

The blockfuss to go out of business. Sorry, all the Poe heads tuning in are going to find that. So we're up to Edgar and John Allen, not getting along that well. They clashes. They had different aims for the young man. Mr. Allen wanted to raise Poe to be a businessman and a Virginian gentleman like himself. But Poe was more interested in emulating the life of his childhood hero, British poet, Lord Byron. Ah, died young.

Cipolis. And even from a very young age, Edgar was like, I want to do that, live fast, die young. Well, will he achieve that?

We'll find out on this report. Now, in 1815, Alan moved with his family to London to take advantage of the booming British market for Virginian tobacco. Really? Po-attended, yeah.

Poet tended posh boarding schools over there. Hello, we're a posh school. I love that idea that it's like, they advertise that way. We're a posh boarding school. Hello! Hello!

Mrs. Doubtfire is the headmaster. Hello, children. Welcome to posh boarding school. Why? She's always baking a cake. And it's always on the window sill. But the kids are too polite to eat it. You know what posh means to Jess?

Robin William been dragged. So posh. Hello. Nothing posher. I love posh culture. I love posh spice. That's posh. That's posh.

Now that's posh. Posh and Bex. So posh. Yeah. So they're doing well and he's at this posh school in London. But then during the panic of 1819, there was a bust in the first bust in the industrialising 19th century. Banks failed, factories closed and Alan's business imploded. Not good.

So the family in debt moved back to Virginia where young Edgar began writing poetry of his own at the age of 15. The New Yorker describes his teenage stuff as adolescent. melancholy and nothing more. Yeah, what do you expect from a 15-year-old? Why isn't he talking about complex things? I reckon it's pretty good. I've got a line here. This is the earliest verse that survives.

Written on a piece of paper, his adopted father had used to calculate it his own compound interest losses. So all this math's about freaking out about family losses on one side. And the other side, this line from a 15-year-old. Last night, with many cares and toils oppressed, weary, I laid me on a couch to rest.

It's not bad. It's not bad. That's not pretty good. For poetry, it's pretty good. I'd be stoked with that. I mean, 15-year-old May was probably still trying to figure out hikus. How do they work again? Never been good at poetry.

In the first couple of weeks of year seven, I remember I wrote it a lot. We had to write like two lines of poetry. And I wrote it about I had spilled some demison, some medicine on the floor and the study. And I remember the line was, I spilled. it on the study floor. What was it? I still remember it. What was it?

No. I spilt it near the door on the study floor. It was blue, like the colour of Mitchell's shoe. My friend Mitchell had blue russ. Great. I mean, compare that to Edgar, the New Yorker is going to tear me apart. And of course, in Year 7, you still would have been only able to take liquid demison. Yeah.

Still to this day. Yeah. That is just melancholic tini. age faff. Oh, absolutely. Enough of this faffery. Enough of Mitchell's shoes. So these days, I'm smart enough to get the clear peach flavor over that blue stuff.

That's going to ruin any carpet. Yeah. I just looked at, I wasn't sure about Lord Byron how he died. Apparently died of fever, not syphilis. But I found this quick paragraph that mentions him in syphilis. It's from the culturetrip.com. It says after a long relationship with his half-sister leading to a child, he had affairs with actresses, married society, women and many young men,

so that by the age of 21 he had raging cases of gonorrhea and syphilis. Love didn't come in a triangle for Byron, but something closer to a pentacle. Oh, what a paragraph. Yeah, wow. Wow, that was... And a 15-year-old wrote that. Pretty good. It didn't rhyme that much.

No, it's not... Not that much. I don't like that kind of poetry that doesn't rhyme. Yeah, I'm with you. Like blue like the colour of Mitchell's shoe. Good stuff. That's good. So you're saying Byron, he's here as a bit of a lover.

Edgar loved a few women in his life himself. In 1823, at age 14, he fell in love with a school friend's mum, Jane Stanard. No, no, no, no. Been there, done that. The character of Stifler was actually based on Matt. Hang on. Stimler didn't bang his own mum. Someone else's mum, didn't he?

Yeah, it was Fingler's mum. Oh, no, it was Stifler's mum. I hated those movies. Milf, mulf, mulf. Gross. But as Jane Stannard, the friend's mom, has been described as unhinged and insane. She died the following year, and Edgar spent a lot of time at her grave site where No More became his favorite phrase. Ah, that's from the Raven?

The Raven is famously only says Nevermore. Nevermore. It's possibly the 14-year-old version of his later self. And Nevermore is the name of a... a metal band, isn't it? I never connected that. It's probably where they got it from. There's also Evermore,

the Australian New Zealand trio of brothers. Jeez, he's been influential, isn't he? How does he do it? So it's bad news for Edgar, but some good news came for his semi-adoptive father, John Allen, when his uncle died and left John millions and millions and millions of dollars. Oh, few.

So suddenly he was extremely flush. This guy, John, his uncle, was one of the richest people in the state and left most of it to his nephew. So he didn't, oh, wait. this isn't to Edgar No, this is his stepfather. I was going to say, he didn't even love him but he...

Oh, I see. No, sadly. But Edgar was a bit of a lover boy, so he's at the grave side of his friend's mum, but because the next year at the age of 15, he started seeing and possibly even became engaged to Sarah Elmira Royster. But sadly... That's a great name, Royster.

Royster. But sadly her father did not prove. Prove. But he's from the richest family. around. Yes, but he's like the sort of illegitimate son. Right. Not seen.

He's also 15. Yeah. I don't think I'd let my daughter marry a 15-year-old. I'll be honest. Really? Yeah. Hmm. Sorry, I'm a bit old-fashioned that way.

You wouldn't let your 36-year-old daughter marry a 15-year-old? No, I wouldn't. Strange. But then again, she's 36, so, you know, she makes her uncles. I think the age that Lord Byron died, 36. Oh. So he held on for a few years after. After the gonorrhea?

After the mega gonorrhea. Mega gonorrhea. We've got your results back. It's not good. You have mega gonorrhea. Am I invincible? Like, I don't know what gonorrhea is, but if it's like little microbey things, it's them only the size of bull ants?

Yeah. Inside your dick. Inside your dick. It's not good. It's not good. Let me tell you that. It's not good. It's quite painful.

It's very bad. It's like bits of Lego. Put them around in there. Which bits? I don't know. Not those ones with six dots on the top. They're big. No, like two dots.

That's still big. Sorry, Dave. In comparison to what we've got. Yeah, I mean, it's not less bad. There's multiple bits inside your dick. Oh, okay. Oh, dear. Yeah.

Got to call a doctor. Mega Connoirio. Mega Conno. A few years later in. 1826, Poe left his home in Richmond to attend the University of Virginia. He did well at his studies but found himself in debt. There are two stories as to what happened. Poe Museum.org, which unsurprisingly paints a favourable picture of the author. Interesting. Claims that his adopted father, despite his wealth, was miserly and sent

Poe to college with less than a third of the funds he needed. And Poe soon took up gambling to raise money to pay his expenses. Did this gambling pay off? No, it did not. In fact, he lost even more money. Oh, no. That's weird. You normally hear of people gamble, like, who are desperate and gamble. You normally hear them just winning. Yeah, I think every time I've heard someone say, put it all on red, they double their money.

If I told you about the story that I was in Bristol at the casino there years back, and the guy was staying with it at the hostel, it's an English guy, and we went to the casino and he um the roulette wheel was spinning and he goes that's all the money I have in the world what was on the table the wheel was already spinning so he couldn't he couldn't take it off where like what and everyone around the table heard and we're all watching with our heart and our mouth including this woman who was like betting thousands of hands she's gone that's madness and he won

and he tripled his money and he could afford to stay in the hostel for another few weeks it was what a wild moment I mean if you're staying in the hostel don't go to the casino no

those two don't go together well look we were having a fun time but we had some money left wow well I mean in a way that it's not a great life lesson is it because it paid off for him. Yeah, exactly.

And then he'd rely on that next time. Exactly. Three weeks later he would be down there with his last money again. How's a fun go, though? So that's one story of Edgar being kicked out of university because his father wouldn't give him the money. The other story is he had to leave university because despite his stepfather paying for his fees,

Edgar got into gambling debt anyway, and when his stepfather refused to bail him out, even faced with a possibility of jail time for not paying his debts, Edgar had to go. So either way, he was in. debt due to gambling troubles. Right. By the end of his first term of school,

Po was so desperately poor that he burnt his furniture to keep warm. He wrote his stepfather for money apparently saying, I am in the greatest necessity not having tasted food since yesterday morning. Oh, that's not good. Burning your furniture to stay warm, that is such a short-term win. I know. What kind of furniture? What do you sit on around the fire?

Oh no, while your Chesterfield burns. That's worth a lot of money. Sell it. Sell it. Sell it. Buy a shitter couch and some furniture. And some firewood. So he was forced to return home to Richmond where already pretty down and out.

He discovered his childhood sweetheart, Sarah Almira Royster, had married another man. No. He was heartbroken. Sarah, how could you? How could you? I've only been away for a couple of years. We've lost touch. We were not allowed to marry.

So I assumed you would never marry. Right? Not to marry. Full stop. Yeah, done. It's nothing to do with me. It wasn't my problem. Tensions began to boil over between Edgar and his stepfather, John Allen, and Edgar left home at age 18 to become a great poet and to find adventure. Okay.

He moved to Boston, probably because the only object that he had from his dead mother was a watercolour painting of that city on the back of which she had written, for my little son Edgar who should ever love Boston, the place of his birth and where his mother found her best and most sympathetic friends. Oh, that's nice.

So he read that and was like, well, I've got to go to Boston. That's what mum would have wanted. That's really lovely. He wanted two things to be a poet and to find adventure, as I said. And as far as the poetry, at 18, he published his first collection of poems, Tamerlane and other poems,

it was called. It said by a Bostonian, like by Ed Galen Poe, a gallon poet by a Bostonian even though he'd only just moved there so he was trying to get this new identity from his mother only about 50 copies were printed

and sadly he didn't get any attention for them do you have any context for what poetry was then was it like what would be the modern equivalent of poetry I think it was it could be scar music stuff like yeah or like I spilt it on the floor near the study door it was blue

like the colour of Mitchell shoe So it's still poetry. I mean, like, you know, in terms of pop culture, was it more like a sitcom, you know? He was trying to emulate Lord Byron, which is pretty, like, classic. Do you understand the question I'm asking? So you're asking, like, from a consumer point of view, was poetry popular? Well, like, because poetry still exists now, but it's not, I was imagining it was more of a mainstream thing than it is now. Oh, yes, sorry, yes, people would pay for poetry.

So it's more like a, like a, like buying a magazine. Yeah, and also he would throughout his life make money by selling his poetry and short stories to magazines to publish. Right. So yeah, there was definitely a bigger market for poetry back then than there is now. It's more like modern blogging. It's probably like, is it the equivalent of like a YouTube cooking show? I love you trying to find a connection. I'm just going to say yes.

I thought it was. But sadly, I know, I said it's more... Pose kitchen. Maybe it's like the equivalent of that. If you know Po, that's very funny. So I say it's more popular, but he was still unable to support himself. So he enlisted in the US Army. By accounts, he did quite well there and attained the rank of Sergeant Major for artillery.

To get higher, he'd have to go to the Military Academy to get any higher in position. So he did so, enlisting in the United States Military Academy at West Point while continuing to write and publish poetry. But after only eight months at West Point, point he was thrown out probably again due to lack of financial support. There are rumours that he actually wanted to get kicked out because he'd signed up for five years and was like, I don't want to be here. The big rumor is that...

Never sign up for five years. It's a long time. Go a month-to-month contract. Test the waters. You want to be able to escape at any point. Month-in-month-in-the-month in the military. I'm just going to do month-to-month in this war. Is that okay?

Is that all right? I'll just see how I go. Yeah. Don't want to lock you. Yeah, I'll sign up for May, but I'm not sure about June. And can I put some nails in the water hang of painting? No. Okay.

There are rumours that the final straw at the military college came when he reported for drill wearing belts for his cartridges, a smile and nothing else. Oh, chop out. Yeah, chop out, look insane, get kicked out. That's how he did it. He sort of went with the, what was that MASH character? That's what I was just thinking, Klinger? Klinger. Klinger.

I reckon it was Klinger. I don't know too much about MASH. Oh man, you got to watch MASH. He tried to be crazy to get kicked out. So he was always in women's clothing. But he should have just gone nude. He should have just gone nude. Yeah, because then he wouldn't have even been able to be on TV.

So that would have been smart. And isn't that the story in Catch 22? Yes. Catch him he's trying to look insane, but then he's not in. Yeah, if you're trying to look insane, then you're sane enough to know that you should leave the army, which means you're not insane. Whoa, mind-blank star.

In truth, he was most likely kicked out after he stopped going. going to class, parade, roll calls and chapel. He was just playing. He stopped turning up and, yeah, and they just caught marty on him and dismissed him. It's hard to know, to be honest, for certain, because Poe was a well-known liar in his life. He used aliases, often lied about his age and details about his personal life. A quote again from the New Yorker. I have an...

This is a great word. I have an invertate habit of speaking the truth, Poe once wrote. That, too, was a lie. Polide compulsively about his own life has proved the undoing of many biographer Yeah, that would be hard It's difficult because, yeah, he would just say, you know, no, I'm 22 and he's only 19

Or he'd say I'm 23 and he was only 18 I might start just bullshitting For my inevitable biographers You know, keep an air of mystery about me I'm 22 I love it And a princess Oh

of what None of your business See? Mystery A bit of intrigue Princess, but where? Who knows? It's exciting

What we do never certain Is that he left the military One way or another He had more squabbles with his stepfather After his stepmother died Because the stepmother A stepfather married a woman Quite quickly 20 years he's junior

And then disowned and cut out Edgar for good So he was cut off Cut off from the rich rich stepfather Poe left for New York City in February 1831 and released a third volume of poems. This compilation simply titled Poems. Oh, that's good. Love that, simple. Yeah.

Classic. They were in part financed by donations from fellow cadets at the West Point Academy. Poe had apparently been writing satirical poems at the expense of their commanding officers, and they may have been expecting this book to be on a similar theme. But it was not. It was not. They're like, no, write more about the, Colonel being dumb.

Being dumb and having a big butt. Right more like that. These ones are sad and make me think. But they were too. That was just bleak stuff. Quote from Poemuseum.org here. Broken alone, Poe turned to Baltimore, his late father's home and called upon

relatives in the city. So his actual father, his birth father. One of Poe's cousins robbed him in the night, but another relative, Poe's aunt Maria Clem, became a new mother to him and welcomed him into her home. So robbed by one cousin, then moving in with another.

Okay. Of your cousins, which one would you rob? Oh, I've got a lot. I've got 50-od cousins. Yeah, I've got a lot. So I've got a lot to choose from. Probably one of the rich ones who wouldn't. Yeah, that'd make sense.

Gosh, I've only got seven, so it's... Yeah, you've got to choose wisely there. Sorry about that. 50 might be overstating it. Do we're counting second cousins? First cousin I got, I think of about 40. Oh, I'm sorry, that's so low. It's not even worth mentioning.

Yeah. If I can check, I'll get them all to send me their finances. Yeah, then I'll decide. Are any of you rich? Anyone rich? Just asking? No, no reason. You know, you said Baltimore, that's the, their NFL teams, the Ravens.

Oh, you better believe I've got a fun fact about that coming up. It's amazing, right? That's not a coincidence. That ain't no coincidence. Oh, that's awesome. Very, very cool. Yeah, that's their connection. But that's my big closer, that fun thing.

We'll edit out this bit. No, I won't. It's fine. It's fine. So he's robbed by one cousin, but then moved in with Aunt Maria and her nine-year-old daughter, Virginia. So his cousin. Cousin. Cousin.

His post-brother Henry had also been living there, but soon died of alcoholism. Oh, no. It was a very tragic time to be a lot. Yeah, that's amazing how lucky we are to live in a time where you probably, or depending on who you are and whatever, but you're probably going to see past your 30s. Ideally, yeah. But back then it feels like you were not. Yeah.

No. Poe was living in Baltimore. His stepfather John Allen died, leaving Edgar out of his will, which was a slap in the face because it did provide for an illegitimate child whom Alan had never seen. Oh, that sucks. But Edgar, who he'd adopted as a three-year-old and had lived as his son,

got nothing from this absolute, multi, multi-millionaire. So this is like to him. it's all about blood. Blood. And also the fact that Edgar didn't, he wanted to be a poet, he didn't want to be, I wanted him to be my protege

and he slapped me in the face. Oh, okay. So fuck him. Oh, yeah. Right. So if he, if he wanted to just be his protege, he would have really probably looked after him.

Probably, yeah. So he missed out on this massive estate and all the while Poe was living in poverty but still riding. He won a prize of $50 from the Baltimore Saturday visitor for a story called, M.S. Found in a bottle. That was about me.

That's Stuart found in a bottle. The bottom of a bottle. There you'll find me, hey? The story gave Poe connections which allowed him to publish more stories and to eventually gain an editorial position at the Southern Literary Messenger back in Richmond. He'd seemed to finally have found a calling that paid his wages as a magazine editor. He was paid $60 a month, modest enough, but for him a fortune. He may have been fired within a few weeks for being drunk on the job,

but they took him back when he promised it wouldn't happen again. But he's a liar. That feels like the kind of job you could do a bit drunk, you know? Right. I mean, you're not driving a bus, are you? You're just editing some shit. That's all right. I'm the bus driving editor.

What, you're telling me you guys... Jewel roll. You tell me you guys have never edited the podcast, you know, Half cut. Really. Full cut. Probably a couple months or twice. Go hard to go home.

Yeah, I like to party. You know that episode that just stopped mid-sentence? Yeah. That time? Yeah. I'd add a couple. All right. All right.

Let's buy. Well, despite being possibly drunk on the job, he did well for the magazine as an editor, putting it on the map and popularizing it with his sensational stories and his scathing reviews of other writers. That's fun. It's funny how influential as a writer he is now. All the famous people who write anything,

Gothic or horror or detective, always point to Ed Gallen Poe, big influence. But in his lifetime, he was seen much more as a critic than a writer. Oh, fascinating. Yeah. Wow, well, you know, those who can't do review. That's what they say. I forgot midway through that that was not the phrase,

but it works our way better. It works really well. It rhymes. It's also kind of true. Yeah. Is it? I mean, that probably is a phrase that's been coined already. It worked so well.

Surely. Because those who can't do teach is bullshit because teachers are great. And it's a totally different skill. Yeah, but really different. Reviewing. I might be biased as a son of two teachers, but. But reviewing quite easy. Well, yeah.

There, I said it. Yeah, no, you're right. I look forward to your next review. Oh, you're shit. Your next performance review, Dave and I bring. we said we'd never talk about those on the podcast they're an off pod thing quarterly review with powerpoint presentation I'm on probation

I was naughty yeah because you were editing the podcast half cut she promised it would never happen again instead of full cut you were mad at me for not being drunk of up I mean that dude in half measures so Poe soon developed a reputation

as a fearless critic who not only attacked an author's work but also insulted the author and the Northern Literary Establishment. So he was just having a real crack. Poe targeted some of the most famous writers in the country. He also had a big crack at Charles Dickens and then Dickens came over and they met apparently at one stage.

But one of his victims was the anthologist and editor, Rufus Griswold. Rufus Griswold is fantastic. And remember that name. Okay. That's coming back. I'll never forget that name. Rufus Griswold.

He had a crack at Rufus Griswold. really slammed him hard. Oh, that's cool. That's hot. Oh, yeah. Poe on Wold, love it. In 1836 at the age of 27, Po married for the first time.

His 13-year-old cousin, Virginia Klan. No. As soon as you said, and her daughter was looking there too, I was like, no, this isn't going to be good. He married his cousin. And he's 27, he's married a 13-year-old. Yeah, and he said,

She was 21. So even at the time, right, that was not the done thing. Yeah, your first cousin and... A child. Yeah, I think that's very, very young. He said she was 21. To who? Her?

Yeah, you're 21. If anyone asks. Well, he called her his darling little wifie. I know. I hate that. Even if they were the same age and not blood related, I hate that. Who's my little wifie? My darling little wifie.

Wifey. I got friends who call their wives Wifey. I do not like it. I don't know why. I shouldn't have an opinion on it. But whenever they say it, I just go, ugh. You do you, but not in front of people. That's the thing.

I think pet names should just be a when you're a lone thing. Out in public, my name's Jess. Yeah. Okay. And that's it. All right, my little wafy. Yuck. Oh, I hate Misso.

Yeah, Misso sucks. Makes me feel uncomfortable. Mrs. Missor, I don't like any of that. I don't like being referred to as that because it's never good. No, it's never complimentary. It's never like, oh, I get to go home to my missus. It's always like, oh, bloody, you got to leave the pub boys.

The missus is mad at me. Fuck off. It's because it's 3 a.m. You dumb shit. It's a Wednesday. Broden Kelly does say that a lot, doesn't it? He does, and I keep telling him. I don't like it.

So he's with his darling little wife. He's 13. He's 27. The marriage has been described. as a happy one, but money was always tight. Because she was 13. I'm not blaming her for the money. I'm just saying like, she can't go get a job, can she?

Edgar. She could have been a rat catcher. Good point. Good point. Chimney sweep. Poe really suffered in a time where international copyright laws were almost non-existent and international author's work could be published essentially for free. So leaving local writers struggling to make a living.

Right. Because, I mean, why would you pay Poe? to write something when you can just bloody reprint some Dickens or something for free because no one's suing. So Poe really pushed for reforms in this area. In 1841, Poe published one of his most influential stories, The Murder in the Rue Morg,

which Matt will know as the subject of this week's book sheet if you want to hear a full plot summary. My goodness, what a story. And a detailed analysis that Matt and I really went through. Yeah, I like the middle, but the ending, a little disappointing. Well, I just wanted it to keep going. Yeah.

Don't end. The short story originally published in Graham's magazine. Oh, that's bad. That sounds like a backyard operation, doesn't it? Where Poe was the editor and finally being paid well at the time, it cited as the first ever detective story ever. Isn't that crazy? There's a building called Graham.

Isn't that shit? Where's that? You know how old buildings would have names? I used to live in one called Montana. Oh, I lived in Hatfield. Hatfield. I remember going on the tram past one that was called Graham. I'm like, well, that sucks.

They used to be named after like architect's kids and stuff. Is that right? There's a role of terrace houses somewhere in Melbourne that I've seen that there's, you know, there's like six in her own. They're each got a woman's name. Ah. And yeah, that was like the builder's daughters. Right.

Like Vera. Yeah. Glenys. It was those sort of names. Yeah, right. Does the, how nice the name is, really affect the value of the property? Yes.

I don't want to live in Glenys. No one wants to live in Glenys. Why isn't Vera on the market? I love Vera. Vera is hot. It's a great name. Vera. Anyway.

So, yeah, the murder in the room, because the first ever detective story influencing every crime novel, every detective character, every crime and TV show and film in one way or another. It started with this. one.

You're joking. That's awesome. Yeah, so the murderers in the Rue Morg centers around C. August Dupin, who was a Frenchman tasked with solving the brutal murder of two women. Remember that bit? Oh, yeah, sorry, yeah, of course I do.

From yesterday's episode of Bookchews. Pose Dupin displays many traits, which became literary conventions in subsequent fictional detectives, including Sherlock Holmes and Hercule Poirot. The character was especially influential on Arthur Conan Doyle, creator of Sherlock Holmes, who was very similar to Dupin in many ways.

Both characters are brilliant detectives who sold crimes through deduction and observation, and the story is told from a close friend's perspective, much like John Watson and Sherlock Holmes. People who are interested, if they haven't, we did an episode about Arthur Conan Doyle and Sherlock Holmes. Yes, we definitely did. I think you did the report, did you do that?

Yes, and how he believed in fairies. I don't remember that. I don't remember that either. He became a very superstitious band after his son's sadly died in the war. Ah. But the man I mentioned earlier, Rufus Wilmot Griswold,

a well-known critic and anthologist as well as Poe's greatest rival Oh, wow. Took over editing Graham magazine after Poe's departure in April 1842. Graham magazine. That sucks. Graham.

I don't mind the name, Graham. How do you picture it? Spelt? Oh, great. Great question. In this case, I am imagining GRA H-A-M. Yeah. But I generally picture it the other way.

E-M-E. Yeah, I wonder why that is. I know I go straight to H. Graham. Sounds delicious. It's funny. Graham. Or Graham.

Graham. That's funny. Funny is funny. Funny's funny. It's a fine name for a first name, fine name for a surname. Shit name for a magazine. Or a building. Or a building.

Yeah, it's a good surname. Real good surname. Great, yeah. There's an actor called someone Graham, isn't there? From Heather Graham. Heather Graham, great name. Fantastic name. I'd be happy to live in Heather Graham.

Lovely. What about my uncle Graham? Oh, your uncle Graham. He seems stinky. Okay. No, good on him. Good on old Uncle Graham. I like him a lot if he's a real person.

Which he is. Anyway, I've said too much. We've had a... an odd one today. Well, he's an odd guy. This 1843 was full of ups and downs for the rider when his friends heard that his wife and mother-in-law was starving.

They gave him $15, only to come across him an hour later, drunk and in the street. Good. His mother-in-law's also his aunt. Yeah, that's true. And what, she was fine with him marrying her 13-year-old daughter. Yeah, I guess you hope that...

That's fucked. I guess you hope that he'd be able to provide for them, but he's not doing so well then, But he published... Do you think that he's so good at writing crime stories because he's committing a real bad one every day? Maybe. You know, you've got to get in the head of a criminal.

Yeah, inside job. Yeah. He just wrote his own life and people are like, wow. Whoa, this is so messed up. How did you think of this? He's just like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Fiction, not a memoir.

In 1843, he also published what is one of his best-known short stories today, which you can hear about bookcheed episode 15 the telltale heart but Poe found his greatest success whilst alive when on January 29, 1845 his poem The Raven

also the subject of that episode 15 of bookshed I did a double And both been featured on The Simpsons Yeah that's very true, yeah The telltale heart was Yeah it was like a... Lisa's rival Yeah, that's right

With a... It's the infernal beating of that heart I mean, I think I hear something So yeah, but he published The Raven in 1845, which appeared in the evening mirror and became a popular sensation. Despite appearing in minuscule type beside classified ads for real estate, knives, boots and shoes, it made Po a household name almost instantly. I wish it was boots and hats.

Sorry. Boots and hats or boots and cats that you say when you try to beat box? Well, I have no idea what? I'm so sorry, Dave, just continue. It does make me think of one of my favorite ever YouTube videos for that mall in the USA where they all got together and each shop made a song. Oh, yeah.

Boots and pants and boots and pants. Denim, haircuts. Backpacks, backpacks, come get your backpacks. New shoes. Yeah, it's very funny. That's the main thing. Anyway, boots and pants. So he made him a household name, the Raven,

but he was paid up front for it and only got $9 for the publication. So he didn't get paid well, but he did make him more of a popular speaker, and that was how he started making money by appearing and speaking. I was starting to wonder if he got fame in his lifetime, so it sounds like he obviously did. Yes, well, some fame and some success. He tried to capitalize on this success by buying his own magazine, the Broadway Journal.

That's a bad name. It had been a lifelong dream of his to own publication, but sadly this venture was a financial bust. Yeah, because it had such a legit name. Yeah. He should have called it Uncle Gary's Fun House of Magazine Times. And then you'll be rich forever. I would have bought a copy of that.

Honestly, if someone's on the street and was like, you can buy this for a buck, I'd be like, well, that's a pretty good title. I would be going, there's a bit in this, I reckon. Yeah, the big issue, well, I mean, it's not that great a name, isn't it? But Uncle Gary's magazine of Funhouse Magazine Fun. It changes every time. I love it.

It's exciting. The failure of his dream of owning a magazine and his cousin slash wife's deteriorating health and rumours spreading about post-relationship with a married woman forced him to leave New York City in 1846. He moved to a tiny cottage in the country where sadly his wife slash cousin died of tuberculosis in 1847. Oh, she was joining the T-Burks. Oh, there's a few T-Berks in this story. He was rocked hard by his cousin-slash-wife's death and travelled around a lot after this.

He did, however, rekindle love with an old flanks. Sarah? When in 1849... No, Sarah did. No, Sarah's not dead. He got back with his childhood sweetheart. How could you forget? Elmira Royster Shelton.

Royston. The one he was possibly engaged with the age of 15. Oh, yes. She'd lived alive since. Her husband, Alexander B. Shelton, where she got the Shelton from, had become wealthy through involvement in the transportation industry, but had died and left her a widow.

She inherited quite a fortune. He left her a widow I can do whatever I want with this widow Widow fetch me tea Yes miss What a weird parting gift I inherited an old woman Well you didn't even die

He just gave it to her as in anyway We're done I bought this widow what do you think I was left widowed Meaning a widow was given to me And my husband left for another That's not funny She inherited quite a fortune of $100,000

But the stipulate With a stipulation that She would lose a portion of this estate If she ever remarried But she became engaged to Poe none that less That's fucked Man, that's so far Yeah, it's really fucked

I'll be dead So it doesn't worry me at all But you better not find happiness again If you assume that marriage is happiness If you assume you were ever happy She became to Po engaged nonetheless Which makes you think that they were actually in love But they were intended to be married in Richmond

After a Po returned from a trip to Philadelphia in New York But then something happened Oh The widow broke her leg Oh On September 27th 1849 Edgar Allan Poe left Richmond, Virginia On his way to Philadelphia

To edit a collection of poems for Mrs. St. Leon Loud. It was a minor figure in poetry at the time. Mrs. St. Leon Loud. That broke Matt. It's a lot to take in there, isn't it? It's too much. There's a lot happening.

Geez, I wish we collected these names as we went. We really should have started. That's got to be top ten. Mrs. St. Leon Loud. So the first stop is to stop in Philadelphia. Yep. and then continue on to New York and pick up his aunt and escort her back to Richmond, Virginia,

for his upcoming wedding to childhood sweetheart El Mera. His aunt, who is also his mother-in-law for a bit. Okay. She obviously supports it, I guess. Oh, my God. With these people. That was the plan. And that's sort of, it's in like a straight line.

You go to Philly, up to New York, north, and then you come back down to Richmond, Virginia. That's the plan. It's not quite the golden mile of Gary to Pittsburgh, stopping in through Ohio but it's pretty good as well I mean it's how many richmond's are there as well there's a Richmond I think in every Australian state just about yeah pretty much I wonder what the original Richmond is yeah who's influential yeah who is there's so many places named after Richie Johnny be

Richmond the oldest bridge in Australia is in Richmond Tasmania is it well Richmond is obviously had we cross water before that jumped whoa big jumpers Big poles. Yeah, well, that's why we don't jump as big anymore. Not since the invention of bridges. Hmm. Interesting. The human body has forgotten that skill.

Yeah. Sad. Sad. Sad. Sad. So the plan, go to Philly. Edit Mrs. St. El-L.

Loud. Then New York, pick up the aunt, come back. But what actually happened over the week is a mystery. What? Because a week later, on October 3, 1849, Joseph W. Walker. who worked as a printer for the Baltimore son in Baltimore, headed to Gunners Hall,

a local public house for a few drinks. Went down the pub. Yeah. Gunners Hall. Gunners Hall. I like that. October 3rd was election day and Gunners Hall, like many pubs at the time,

was used as a polling station. Oh, so you could vote at the pub. That's how to do it. Yeah. Not at primary schools. They do it at primary schools here. Why not at the pub? Do it to the pub.

You have to be 18 to vote anyway. So why not have a few? But then they could still do sausage scissors. Oh my God. Imagine a pint, a sausage and a vote. What a fucking day. Name a more iconic trio. I can't.

I can't either. Well, Dick Berry and Shane Van Dyke for one. Obviously, Dick Barry and Shane. I mean, they're the ultimate, Dave. Every time we mention anything other than that from now on, that's a given. No, sorry, it just trams everything. It makes life boring. So Walker went for a, went for a,

brew at the pub, which is a polling station. When Walker arrived at Gunners Hall, he found a man, delirious and dressed in shabby secondhand clothes lying in the gutter. The man was semi-conscious and unable to move. Walker approached him into his shock. He realised the man was Edgar Allan Poe. He knew him. Yeah, he recognised him. So he was famous by face.

Famous by face. If you've ever seen a photo of the guy, he's pretty individual looking. Right. Is that a polite way of saying? Ugly? Just a very, very large scone. Big head. Yeah, great.

And also... And they're in the same... It's a similar kind of industry. He works in magazines. He's a printer, so he would probably know it. So he knows him, yeah. But yeah, he was quite famous. Oh, yeah, I know this head.

Yeah, it's a great head. How far away is Baltimore? Like, is he really out of the way? He's a couple hundred miles away. From where he was supposed to be? Yeah, so he's gone from Richmond and he's supposed to go to Philadelphia, which is north. And in between is Baltimore. But still, he had no plans to be there.

No plans to be there. So he's shocked. He's like, oh my God, this guy who I thought was, you know, like a vagrant in the street. That's Edgar Allan Poe. He asked, he was obviously in a terrible state and worried about his condition. Walker asked Poe if he had any acquaintances in Baltimore that might be able to help him out. Poe gave Walker the name of Joseph E. Snodgrass. I'm not making this up.

Joseph E. Snodgrass. Who was a magazine editor with some medical training. Snodgrass. That's the name that's died out, isn't it? Yeah, I don't know a single snodgrass. Snodgrass, it seems like a Roll-Dahl name. Yes. Totally.

Yeah, it definitely does. Also, in this era, if you found someone that needed urgent medical attention, how did you find their relatives, do you reckon? Back then, you'd probably go to a phone book. Call the operator? Give me the snod grasses. Oh, that's my name. Sorry, give me the pose.

What do you have to do? He had to write a letter. Okay. A guy, you know, needs urgent medical attention. And then that took a week to get there. I would have taken to more hospital and then figured out what to do from there. So the letter is actually survived. It says, Dear sir, there is a gentleman, rather the worst for wear,

at Ryan's fourth ward polls, who goes under the cognomen of Edgar Allan Poe, and who appears in great distress. And he says he is an acquaintance of yours, and I assure you he is in need of immediate assistance. Yours in haste, Joss W. Walker. Joseph. Dated three weeks ago. Sorry, I didn't have a stamp.

It's been sitting in my outbox for weeks. Apologies for the delay, but with haste. Even like today, even an email would, you know, You don't, mail is not the way to go. No. And instant email's too slow. Yeah. So what had happened, Poe had left Richmond, Virginia, but never made it to Philadelphia for his

editing job or to New York to pick up his aunt. He had arrived in a fourth city, Baltimore, 150 miles away from where he started, but in theory it could be a stoff off on the way to Philly or New York. Okay, sure. Snodgrass, the man he had asked for help, arrive and described Poe's appearance as repulsive, with unkempt hair, a haggone, a haggined. It's only been a week. Repulsive is such a brutal way to describe anyway.

Oh, ew. I want to spew. You made me want to spew up. Described him as having an unwashed face and lustiless and vacant eyes. His clothing, Snodgrass said, which included a dirty shirt but no vest and unpolished shoes. Oh, excuse me, no vest. Repulsive. Your shoes were worn and did not.

fit well. The clothes weren't his own. He usually went everywhere in a black wool suit. He had a signature look. So people are like, where the hell to get this weird outfit from? That's funny, because I just picture everyone wearing dirty clothes back then. Everyone's a chimney sweep or a rat catcher. We had two jobs. Poe was taken to a hospital where he was placed under the care of Dr. John Joseph Moran. Poe spent the next four days wavering between fits of delirium, gripped by visual

hallucinations. Oh, man. He couldn't explain where he'd been or... Well, as opposed to smell hallucinations. I can smell chicken. No, you can't. There's no chicken here. I can taste chicken.

Yes, you're eating chicken. You're eating chicken, very good. I'm having a taste hallucination. This chicken tastes like fish. He's crazy. He couldn't explain where he'd been or what had happened to him. But he's also a liar. That's true.

Hmm. So maybe he's lying what happened to him. Is that what you mean? Yeah. The night before his death, according to his attending physician, Dr. Moran, Poe repeatedly called out for Reynolds, a figure who to this day remains a mystery. Reynolds!

Reynolds! That's fun. Reynolds, Reynolds. And they were like, I don't know. There's been theories over the years, but no one really knows what he was saying or why he was saying it. This is fascinating. He died on October 7th, 1849, at the age of 40.

But what was the actual cause of death? 40? That was, was that a respectable sort of? Respect, yeah. His parents had died much younger. His brother had died much younger. 40's like the modern 80. Yeah, so pretty good, but...

That's my guess. A good innings. I don't know that for sure. So how did he die? Well, there's quite a few theories. Ooh. One of the most common theories is that... consuming too much alcohol caused his death.

J.E. Snodgrass, the friend slash semi-doctor who saw Poe in the tavern, believed that Poe had been drinking heavily and that he ultimately succumbed to the tremors and delirium that can accompany alcohol withdrawal. But this is according to Britannica, a number of secondhand accounts seem to support Nodgrass, Snodgrass, saying that Poe had encountered acquaintances in Baltimore and gone on a drinking bender. This would not have been entirely out of character as Poe had engaged in bouts of heavy drinking throughout his life. He was a known drinker. Yeah.

But in the months before his death, he had joined the temperance movement, which is a social movement against the consumption of alcoholic beverages. Okay. So he seemed to have like turned a new leaf, possibly and decided to give up alcohol. Right. John Moran, the attending physician at the hospital, was also convinced that Poe was not drunk and hadn't been drinking in the days leading up to his death. The duration of his final illness and the fact that he seemed to recover slightly in the hospital

before worsening and dying also seemed inconsistent with alcohol withdrawal. Because you're not going to get absolutely blackout drunk, like off your chops, drunk as you've ever been, and then die like four days later. That's what he's saying. Yeah, right. I'm not sure. I am not a doctor.

But I didn't even know that you can die of alcohol withdrawals. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't even know what that. I don't think I've heard of that before. But if it wasn't drinking, what was it? One of the other theories is that he was beaten and died as a result of his injuries. Eugene Didier, who was a recognised authority on Poe, wrote in his 1872 article, The Grave of Poe, that while in Baltimore, Poe,

ran into some friends from West Point, the old military academy, who prevailed upon him to join them for drinks. So maybe they talked him into having a few drinks. Right. Po, unable to handle his liquor, became madly drunk after a single glass of champagne, after which he left his friends to wander the streets. In his drunken state, he was, quote, robbed and beaten by ruffians and left insensible in the street all night. Ah. And then someone put other people's clothes on him.

Well, yeah, that's... Why is he wearing different clothes? Did he have bruises or like anything that... No, there was no mention of him looking like he'd been bashed. But he did look repulsive. Yes. That's true. And he had an unwashed face.

They just roughed up his hair. Yeah. But they did it so rough that it like hurt his brain. Yeah. Ow! Yeah. But if you don't like the theory of drinking too much and don't like the theory of him being beaten up,

then how about combining both of the theories? Oh, hello. With one of the most popular theories is that he was a victim of Couping. which I'd never heard of. Couping, which was practiced by gangs in the 19th century, was when an unsuspecting victim would be kidnapped, drugged, disguised and forced to vote for a specific candidate multiple times under multiple disguised identities.

So it's just voter fraud. Why do you have to kidnap someone to that? Just pay them. People would do that for money. Yeah, or do it yourself. Yeah, do it yourself. Why do you have to kidnap and drug someone? That's weird.

Voter fraud was extremely common in Baltimore around the mid-1800. And let's not forget that the pub that he was found at, looking to Sheffield, was a voting station and a known cooping site where people did this dodgy thing. Right. Again, just do it yourself. Or say, I'll flick your ten bucks. Yeah, it does seem like a lot of effort. I guess that maybe they all do it themselves as well as get extra people to do it. Yeah, and then that would also possibly explain the shabby clothes because they dress the people up in different disguises and outfits.

You just go to them, hey, do you want to earn some money? Yeah. But maybe they didn't have the money. But then you got to buy drugs. Yeah, that's true. We'll pay you in whatever these drugs. Yeah, they either druggy or they got them wildly drunk. Wow.

I give you 30 shots of whiskey or something, so you just absolutely add. And then you're allowed to vote when you're off your chops. Yeah. Yeah, we're allowed to vote at the pub. Yeah, right. Yeah, I'll vote for the second. Sorry, what? Sorry, who?

Home summer. This show, give me a fan of a smear. I like to vote for Jack Daniels playing. An argument against this cooping theory, which is probably one of the more common theories about what happened to him, is that despite his poverty, he was a well-known figure around that part of America, around the coast.

And if you've seen photos, he was a very distinctive-looking man. If you look at the cover image, I'm sure I'll have a photo of him on our Instagram and Facebook and Twitter. People say, if you're going to kidnap someone and get them to vote multiple times under different aliases, why would you use a very famous and also a very distinctive looking man? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Even the guy just going for a drink at the pub said, who's that in the, oh my God, there's a guy on the gutter. Oh my God, that's Ed Gallen. Yeah, he knew him straight away. So he's not going to rock up and be like, hello, I'm Matt Stewart here to vote. I'm Bedgar Gallon Joe. Bedgar Gallen. Right this way, Mr. Goh.

Joe. Mr. Joe, a pleasure. Possibly he died of a brain tumour. His body was moved 20 years after he died when his remains were exhumed. Like little remained of the body, but one worker did remark on a strange feature of Poe's skull. There was a mass rolling around inside it. Ew. What?

At the time, this was thought to be the remains of his brain, but we now know that the brain is one of the first things to rot in a corpse and would not be there 20 years later, but brain tumors can calcify and last longer. That's disgusting. So like when you're shaking a paint can and there's that thing rolling around? Yes, no, Dave, I get it. It's a paint can get tumour. Yeah, that's a drain tumour.

Huh. I don't use the can if it's got that rolling around. I mean, that's fascinating, but also it's disgusting. I'm sorry. There have been endless number of theories over the decades. Various people have speculated he has succumbed to diabetes, heart disease, epilepsy, flu and tuberculosis like everyone else in his life. Some say that he may have even died from rabies.

He got more and more delirious over the days, something seen in sufferers of late-stage rabies. Furthermore, Poe's hospital records indicated that Poe had difficulty drinking water. This may have been a manifest station of one of rabies' characteristic symptoms, which is a fear of water. A fear of water. Didn't know about that. Yeah, rabies, you're scared of water.

Yeah. Wow. That's such a weird symptom. I know if you're really rabid, yeah. Foaming at the mouth, scared of water. Do you know there's no cure for rabies? Really? If you get past a certain stage,

you are almost certain to die. It's very lethal, so you don't want to muck around and get it. Do you know, there's no cure for love as well? Really? Yeah, if you get too deep in, right, but in your life stages, you will be afraid of water

and foaming at the mouth. Yeah. It's all possible. In summary, guys, I'm afraid to say that the creator of the first detective story left us with a great mystery, possibly the greatest mystery of all.

Yeah, geez, that feels like it's right for a dramatic retelling. Has that been turned into a film? I'm not sure. That'd be awesome. I'm sure it would have. And just filling in some blanks and stuff with creativity. I'd love that. Kind of like the, there's a, probably wasn't that great, but I like the idea of it.

There was an Agatha Christie movie about where she went in her missing. Oh yeah. You did a report on what actually happened, but someone made a film out of... Speculative. And the speculation in this film was that she went to this house to solve a murder mystery like one of her characters would.

That's kind of a fun of you. That's cool. That's fun. Yeah, I'm not sure if they've done a biography. But I'll just finish with what happened after he died because one of the reasons Poe was seen as such a mysterious and aloof character, even today, known for his drunk. drunkenness and madness is because after he died his old rival a nemesis,

Rufus Griswold, published a series of character assassinations on Poe. He's dead. Poe had absolutely torn apart Rufus's writing in his magazine. Oh, yeah, okay. This guy was, he was waiting to rip him apart. But also, it doesn't sound like he'd be a, he's not a hard target. There's so many things you could write about it. You're like, hey, guys, did you know he's like a pedophile?

Yeah. And what else did he do? That's the main one coming to mind. Yeah. I mean, need I go on? Yeah. I don't feel like, yeah. I don't have to give much more, do I?

Are we not cancelling him already? Guys? Wow. An obituary published under the assumed name of Ludwig, which was actually written by Griswold, claimed Poe was well known for walking the streets in delirium, muttering to himself, and that he was excessively arrogant,

assumed all men were villains, and was quick to anger. Who's writing that Who's publishing that obituary? Who's publishing that and thinking they're the things Surely the one you're mentioning there is the pedophilia.

Yeah. Not mentioned. He wanders street sometimes. He also married a child. This guy Griswold claiming to be Poe's chosen literary executor So working on Poe's behalf began a campaign

To harm Poe's reputation only ending eight years later when Griswold himself died. He made it like his life's work to ruin Poe's reputation. Jesus. In 1850, he presented a collection of Poe's work that included a biographical titled Memoir of the Author in which Poe was depicted as a depraved, drunk, drug-addled man, much of which may have been completely fabricated by Griswold. Being the only full biography available, the account became accepted and was widely reprinted.

Wow. That's how everyone thought of it. So his fame grew after his death because of people discovered his writing and became influential. But then people, when they wanted to find out more about him, the only thing they could find was this guy being like, yeah, he's a madman. He was drunk. He was on drugs all the time. Wow.

This combined with the fact that he was a well-known exaggerator and even liar made it hard to pin down the truth on Poe. But did Poe have the last laugh? Again, from Poemuseum.org, very pro-po, this website. Pro-po. I'm very pro-po here. Griswold's attacks were meant to cause the last. the public to dismiss Poe and his works, but the biography had exactly the opposite effect

and instead drove the sales of Poe's books higher than they'd ever been during the author's lifetime. Griswold's distorted image of Poe created the Poe legend that lives to this day, while Griswold is only remembered, if at all, as Poe's first biographer. Slammed him. Sucked in. Suck it, Griswold.

Wow. It's funny. It's like a last laughing sort of. of, but he is dead. It would be fully unaware of it. Died, sounds horrifically. Yeah. I got the last laugh.

Well, I mean, he didn't, but people who like him have when they want to feel good about things. That's right. I'm all for Griswold. Good on him. He got the last laugh when the family in National Ampoon's vacation was named after him. Yeah, and that's the highest honor. It's the ultimate tribute. We all had a lot.

last laugh along with Chevy and the gang? Yeah. Chevy. I've never thought about it. That's his name. Chevy. Chevy. What the hell is that?

That's great. It's real good. Chevy. Guys, I just want to finish up with a fun fact that no one has even mentioned on this show so far. So this will blow your minds. Okay. Get ready. Sorry.

The NFL team, this literally did blow my mind. The NFL team, the Baltimore Ravens, are named after Edgar, Alan Poe's. I've written Edgar Allan Pie. Of course, yeah. That's a bit of fun pie on the mind. Edgar Allan Pye's famous short story, The Raven. The name was chosen in a fan contest that drew over 33,000 votes. Wow. It is a great team name, I think.

Because you can, there's like a pretty shallow pool of what people seem to choose from in big competitions around the world. But right, I don't know of any other Ravens team. Yeah, Ravens great. I'd call my team the Wombats. No one else has killed the wombats. Yeah, I like it. Especially if they're a rugby team.

It's a real rugby kind of animal. Nuggety, runs fast, straight lines. Wombats would be good. Not like the jellyfish. That's pretty good. Can't grab us. I like the weird sort of minor league baseball team ones. I've mentioned before, like the Fresno tacos.

That's pretty great. That's amazing. That's truly incredible. So the Ravens were chosen because I probably spent early, his early career in Baltimore and he's actually buried in Baltimore. The Raven in the story is famous for only saying one phrase over and over again, which is Nevermore. It says Quoth the Raven, Nevermore.

And the Baltimore Ravens won the Super Bowl in 2001 with a great defense. Quoth the Ravens, Chris Berman said on SPN, never score. Good stuff, Chris. That is very good. That is good. He had that locked and loaded. Yeah, I love it. He must be their version of Dennis comedian.

Chris is Time to Shine. Misty Opel. You know, what's that one? He went in optimistically, came out misty-opically. Misty-optically. Yeah, that's good. He had no idea what happened. We went in there optimistically.

He came out misty-optically. Brilliant stuff. How does your brain work that fast? The secret is, I write them down. That's the story of Edgar Allan Poe. I'm afraid it is a mystery. Amazing. That's great.

That had a bit of everything, didn't it, really? Pedophilia. Cousin-marrying pedophilia. I mean, maybe we're focusing on the wrong things here. You wrote some famous books as well. So I wonder if how close Baltimore was to being called the Baltimore Telltale Hearts or something. Oh, yeah. Hearts is pretty good as well.

My Melbourne soccer team used to be called the Melbourne Heart until they were bought by a big conglomerate and changed the Melbourne City. Oh, Melbourne Heart's nice. Yeah, I prefer to my Melbourne Heart, to be honest. Is that to be in cahoots with the Manchester City, yeah, Manchester City, New York City. They're a big group. Big city, a bunch of city gangs.

They should have been the Manchester Heart. Oh, that's good. Yeah, the New York Heart. Yeah, that would have been in fun of this tiny Melbourne team, changes the names of all the others instead. Very, very good. Great report, Dave. Yeah, well done, Dave.

Thanks, everybody. Thanks to everyone who suggested it. Well, now it brings us to everyone's favorite part of the show. No offence of your report, but... That's fine. We got the... I came in mystiopically. Damn.

Fuck it. Fuck it, everyone. Guys, I mean, that's why you should write it down and read it from the car. He lobbed up like a cork in the ocean. He went to Meredith one year to... I've probably told you this before, but he commentated the Meredith gift on the last day of Meredith. Well, you've both been there. You know, they have a nude race, and he commentated it.

And the prize is golden jocks. And when the winner was being presented with the jocks, he said, look at those golden jocks glistening in the sun. Makes you proud to be an Australian. That's beautiful. Did you start crying? It was a beautiful moment. So anyway, this brings us to everyone's favorite part of the show,

the fact quote or question section. And you can get involved in this. go to patreon.com slash do you go on pod and sign up on the Sydney Shineberg deluxe memorial rest in peace edition level that's right and um well another patron raw that we've just put out recently is our third bonus episode per month yes we just put out over the weekend our first ever episode of the patreon exclusive series phrasing the bar it was real fun yeah it was a really fun time actually talking about his first ever film he had a small role in dog fight but

It's fair to say that opinion on the film was divided. And we didn't talk about Brennan Frater heaps because he's not in it much, but for you just wait for next month. Yeah, it's phrase heavy from now on. And yeah, so that goes along with a couple other bonus episodes. Dave did a report on... Sigfried and Roy. Oh, that was one of our best bonus reports we've ever done, I reckon. Oh, thanks.

It was a real fun episode. But the famous magicians who worked with lions and tigers, before it all went horribly wrong. And we also did a Desert Island Dave episode, which is where we all picked five albums we'd take with us when we live on a Desert Island for fun. Inevitably. Yeah.

Yeah, I think it's going to be great. So that were all great, and you can get involved in them. I think it's on the DB Cooper level. But you can see, it's all explained there. When you go to Patreon.com slash dig on pod, Hips of different rewards. Including, and I'll say we leave up the older bonus episodes too, so right now you can get about 70 bonus episodes.

Yeah, it's a lot. That's a lot. But the fact quote or question section has a jingle. And it goes a little something like this. Fact quote or question. Ding! You always remember the ding. And this week, I thought we, last week we got through four,

I thought we could do it again today because there's another bunch of facts and one question. So let's get into them. This first one comes from Sof Waldron, and you get to give yourself a title, and Sof has given herself the title, Live Show Photographer, brackets, currently on government implemented hibernation. Sorry about that, Soff. And she's offered up a fact this week. Thank you very much, Sof.

Sof has been a lot of our live shows and takes photos. I think that she might be the new current record holder of the, pardon me. I think for a while it was Phil Kit, had been to the most live show. Oh, fabulous Phil Kit. But Sof has been to many, many live ones, which we totally appreciate so much, and in many different cities and even countries. Honestly, not Phil's value, but... Lifty game, Phil.

No, we love you. So Sof Waldron's given us the fact of... Well, and I don't read these, so I read them out. So let's see what it says. First of all, thanks for always bringing us the laughs each week, each and every week. It's been even more necessary of late, and I'm very grateful for the... pod. Oh, thank you very much, so. Thank you, so. My fact is that the collection, uh, the collective noun for weasels is a

boogel, which is obviously incredible, but also just real, a really fun word to say. Boogel. How do you spell boogle? B-O-O-G-L-E. I love it. A boogle of weasles. That's so cute. I love it.

Great fact. I love collective nouns. They're always funny. What's, what would it be for Ravens, Dave? A Baltimore. Oh, of course. What a silly question. I was so quick, Dave.

I was going to say a bushel. Probably more accurate, too honest. A bushel of ravens. The next fact comes from Chris Trio, who's given himself the title of Head of Monkey Affairs. Fantastic, Chris. Oh, an important job. Good to have you on board.

And Chris's fact is, the noises made by the Raptors in Jurassic Park were taken from recordings of turtles mating. I literally read that this morning. Really? I think I'd heard it before and then I was reading a listicle this morning of like movie facts or whatever and that was one of them and I remember looking at it and it was a picture of Sam Neal surrounded by Raptors and I was like I love Sam Neal and then I thought I'm going to watch Jurassic Park. That's crazy. Wow.

That is wild. I did not know that fact at all. Yeah. You know I did a scene with Sam Neal a long time? You did not. What? When? Well, I was in a scene that he was in.

I didn't do it. it with him and I didn't have a line. In what? Get cracking. No shit. Yeah. Fuck I love Sam Neal. He was so funny.

He did like, I think he did 12 takes and he goes in that there was, you know, he had a funny line they'd written for him and he goes, do you want me to try a few others? And they're like, yeah, sure, if you want to go for it. And every take he did a different line. Wow. And we were all, you know, stifling laughs. I was off screen by the time we did the line. So we're all just like, I'm laughing into my elbow.

sort of thing. He was so funny. That's the best. Just seemed like a real cool guy. Anyway, back to Chris's fact. So he says, the sound designer also experimented with horses breathing and geese hissing. But he decided to go with the turtle banging. I found this out and now that movie will never be the same.

Hope you're all keeping well and staying healthy. Can't wait for the American tour whenever that may be. Hopefully 2021. But really, who knows? Thank you so much. Great fact. I also, I learn a fact I've been watching The X-Files. Great show.

I'm sort of, I'm moving through season two, and I think you're right, Dave. I think it did up its game. But there's this new character who's like the, he's like the enforcer or something. He goes around killing people with this needle thing. Oh, yes, the alien bounty hunter. The alien bounty hunter, yeah.

And when he pushes the needle up, it goes, and apparently they tried so many different things to get that noise. Someone, they go, we want the noise to be sort of like, whiz. And they tried all these different things to get the noise, and they couldn't. So they ended up using a person saying, whiz. No. That's awesome. Yeah, apparently that's the, I haven't had that corroborated in any way, but that's what I was told and I choose to believe.

Me too. The truth is. Well, I want to believe. I want to believe, like the poster in Molda's office. Yeah. I get it. I'm becoming a nerd like that. Yay.

The next one, the next fact comes from Good friend of the show like all these people are Gary J for me, Gary. And his title is organiser for the appreciation of Don Bradman Meal. Never heard of him. Table for one, please. Close bracket.

Table for one. So for those that don't know, Gary Jay has been in our Patreon Facebook group which is another thing you can be part of if you support the show. And every week for about 19 weeks now, he's on a campaign to get us to do do a report on Don Bradman, the greatest ever Australian cricketer, possibly greatest cricketer ever. And Matt keeps putting it up for the vote and it never wins. It'll lose.

It comes dead last every time by quite a margin. Sorry, Gary. And it's inflated. His vote is inflated by people who've been taken in by his campaign. There are definitely people going, we've got to vote for this for Gary. And even with that bump, it still comes so far last. I don't think it's ever been in percentage terms in double figures. Gary.

But I'm starting to think I might do him as a Patreon bonus episode report. Love it. Maybe. But I'll see how the campaign goes. Yeah. Anyway, so Gary J's fact is, Andy Warhol was the first person to photocopy his bum in 1969. What?

The first person to do it. That is a fun fact. How can you verify that? I can't. But, I mean, apart from the fact that Gary's written it to us. I believe. If Gary writes, then I want to believe. It feels like something Andy Warhol would have done.

Yeah. For sure. What a man. He used to hang out with Leonard Cohen. That's crazy. They're in that kind of crossing paths there in the 60s or whatever. Thank you so much for that great fun fact. And finally, the last fact quote of question today is a question.

And it comes from Nick Moyer, who's given himself the title of The Drunk. Okay. It's good to have an official drunk of the show. And his question is, I love a question that ends with a full stop. His question is, what is your favorite unknown beer, full stop? I don't know how to answer that. Unknown beer. Is that a reference to something?

What does that mean? Dave. Favorite unknown beer? Is it unknown capitalized or anything? Like that's a brewer? So it's just like a less popular one maybe? Yeah, maybe like what's your big secret on beer, which Matt, you would definitely have more of a scoop than I

and probably just who doesn't really like beer, but... I don't know how to answer this. You can interpret it anyway you like that. Well, let's say, well, I went around to my old man's last weekend and we tried out a bunch of fun beers. We each brought four. And it was really based around trying out this limited edition brew from Deeds Brewery in Melbourne

Peanut Butter Stout And it was It lived up to expectations It was really, really nice I don't know Does that count? I mean it's a pretty smallish Melbourne brewery

I don't know And I live in the city But I've been drinking a few of theirs Like they've done all these Limited Edition Like double IPAs And they've all been brilliant I'm just they're just on a hot streak

Great So I'd say them maybe peanut butter stout there you go gosh gosh I'm a real

you know I don't know many obscure beers I must say I love fruity beers and I love the pineapple

kaju crush one love that beer oh yeah kaju crush are great I've been that's what I've been having a

slowly drinking a slab of the carju crush tropical ale yeah that's the one yeah they're so nice so nice very fruity

and well I don't even where are they from kajoo they're from dandong How good is the can? I love the can. It looks so tropical and beachy.

It's from Dandenong. This great suburb on the outer east, south-east of Melbourne of Dandenong. Yeah, great. Well, I mean, if... Which is landlocked, right? Do we know where he's from? Uh, no. But that's okay, because if you are from anywhere apart from Australia,

then this would be probably an obscure underground beer. Yeah, exactly. This is cool? Yeah. Just how about you? There's a certain gozer. I know, but I feel like any time there's a beer. question that's all I, because that's the only one I like.

Go for it. It's great. But I wait, it's, is it seven bells, Matt? I also always forget what it's called. Yeah, seven bells from green beacon. Yeah, that's not a huge one either, a mass marketed one. Fuck, delicious. But it's so nice.

It is so nice. I've never seen it anywhere else, as in like, can you get it outside of Brisbane? I got some from my local bottle shop, but they do have a pretty wild range there. Yeah, cool. I've been going in during lockdown and buying like 16 different beers every time. I've had like, I reckon I've drunk maybe 60 different beers in lockdown. Great. But I normally share them.

When I'm personal on social media, it looks like I'm smashing these beers. But there's normally someone taking the photo who's half of these beers. So I'm not quite Edgar Allan Poe wearing someone else's clothes in the street sort of level. Not yet. Woo! though I, you know, I can only dream. I know. Well, I hope that Nick can take some of those, you know, you know, suggestions and probably.

And we normally also thank a few other of our patrons, don't we? And just normally you have a bit of a game. Yeah, I'm going to name, we're going to name their poem. Oh, great. They're most famous. Poems named, I just realized his name is inside Poem. He did it Coincidence?

I think not. The bastard. How did he do that? The greatest trick the devil ever played. Yeah, that's good marketing, isn't it? Get his name on every poem. Nick Moy is from Ohio, the greatest state. Well, there's three Aussie beers then we've mentioned.

Yeah, I guess they would be unknown to you. If you get your hands on them over there, definitely give them a whirl. A whirl. Nice one. All right, let's thank some people. Awesome. Do I mean me to kick it off? Hearing, yeah, you want to kick it off?

Yes. I would love to thank from Goose Creek in SC, South Carolina. Yeah. I'm so impressed I got that. I would love to thank Angel Daniel Rodriguez Jr. Holy, holy. Lots to love there. Pardon me?

That's amazing. Angel Daniel Rodriguez Jr. From Goose Creek. Love that. Fantastic. All right. A poem, are we doing it based on names? No, just anything.

All right. I'm going to say, the winter warmed weather. Oh. I like that. Yeah, but I mean, the poem will explain in a beautiful way. He works in paradox a lot. Is that anything? Paradox.

Yes, I love his work with paradox. He works with paradox. Oh, my goodness. His work of paradox is amazing. On your angel. So thank you. Angel Daniel Rodriguez Jr. And I'd also love to thank

from Dixon in the Australian Capital Territory. I'm glad you got that one. If you don't get the Australian states, it's like, yeah, we're okay. I do know that one. I would love to thank Eric Chin. Oh, fantastic.

Yeah. T-J, H-I-N. Yeah. Chin. Chin. Great. Love it, Eric. Great name.

Dave, what's his poem? Strings on the Moor. Ooh. That feels real. Yeah, I like that. Just looked at there's a guitar on this room and I thought strings something, something. Yep, I'm a pretty cool musical person. There's a guitar in my living room.

Play classical gas. Oh, Eric. I've seen a YouTube video of that scene on The Simpsons where it just goes on forever. It's like for an hour. And it's just Lenny sort of pop up. That is funny. Strings on them all. I love it.

Great work, Eric. Could I thank a couple? Would that be a possible? Please. I'd love to thank from Police Reveal in California, United States, William and Brianna Davis. William. And I love when people go for a two-for.

It's a couple account or his name is William, surname, and Brianna Davis. I'm going to say probably a couple or siblings. Oh, of course. Probably a couple. Or, hey, if you're in, like Edgar Allan Poe, why not both? And obviously, William and Brianna collaborated on a piece called The Lily on the Pond. Oh, beautiful imagery. That's almost definitely already the name of a poem.

That's how Poemey that sounded. I looked at a piece lily over there. A nice one. Well, you know what I did? I came up with mine just from my imagination. And that's why yours sucked. Try again. Yours didn't make any sense.

Ours were very fucking cool. All the best poetry is based on things you can see in your house. Everyone knows that. Everyone knows that. Although this will be our first episode that comes out in the winter time this year. It's Southern Hemisphere winter. Yeah. Winter starts in a couple days.

Yeah. It's felt like winter for a while. The weather's been awesome. It's been beautiful autumn weather. It's been cold but sunny. Yeah, cold and not very wet. Yeah, so that's good. Lovely autumn Melbourne weather.

There's been some cracking days lately. Anyway, enough bragging. And I would also love to thank if I can. Also from California, this time from West Sacramento, born and raised, Betsy Nucatelli. Betsy Nucatelli. What about... What a great name again.

Hang on a hot stretch of... Hang on, Dave's got something. It's brewing. Oh, what about even dust settles? Oh. Heavenly. I like it because it sounds deep. It's like, yeah, I mean, dust is famous for settling.

That's what dust does. Right? Sounds deep. That's what you need. Yeah. You need it to be deep enough for them to carry the poetry to the counter. Yeah. Pay their money, get out and realize that I've duped them again.

But I've got their cash. This is more fast. No refunds. Hang on, I wanted poetry about how the lieutenant's got a big, big bum. Not going to happen. Thanks, Betsy. Thank you, Betsy. Betsy Nuchitelli.

Oh. Right, I would like to thank it. I'm going to say this wrong because we say it wrong every time. People always say, they go, oh, there's a W sound in it or something. I'm like, where? And that is, I would like to thank from Orchron, Ohio. Acron. I think that's what they said.

I would say Akron, and I think you said it like they tell us to say it. Aircron. Orcron. Orcron. Orcron, Ohio. Tell me if I'm wrong, Rachel Leslie. Rachel Leslie. Okay, famous for their tires there.

So I'm going to say, rolling. up the way. Oh, I love that. And how do you spell away? Does it even make it sound like it's not quite right? You'd say rolling up the hill. Yeah. But that's just like a rolling down the way.

But rolling up the way. What's going on here? I want to read this poem. But which... I'm listening. Which way? Ah. Dave read the palm.

In brackets. Curds end. Rolling up the bracket. Curds and close bracket. I love it. Love a bracket. Or as they say in America. where Rachel is from, parentheses.

We learned that the hard way on one of the live streams. Oh, yeah, no, we were. We were absolutely smashed. How dare we use the vernacular of our country? No, they weren't having a go, but it did really kick off quite a conversation apparently in the comments. It's pretty funny with the live stream comments because it's like, are you watching the show?

They're just having a great chat amongst themselves, Which is so lovely. The fun thing about the live streams is you're all watching it together, which is something you don't get to do with a podcast usually. Or even at a live show, you can't chat along. So in the live stream, you're able to commentate with each other, which is kind of fun. We'll just have to do more someday.

Yeah, we should. I'm trying to convince you guys. Let's have a meeting later. Where I can barrage you with reasons. Barage. It's fun and I want to. Please. Let me.

That's my opening pitch. All right, I'm bringing it home. I would like to thank from the birthplace of Reggae Allen Poe. Whoa. Boston, Massachusetts. It's Aaron McLaughlin. Oh, that's a good name. Fantastic. Thank you so much, Aaron McLaughlin.

Do we have one final poem? Jess is looking at something. She's looking for inspiration. I can see the mind zinging and zagging. I feel like Aaron McLaughlin's quite an Irish name. Okay. A lot of great famous Irish poets, of course. But I'm thinking...

the songs of dingle oh I love that songs of dingle some musical poetry no oh I love it even better you buy it the poem about songs Dave

yeah Dave have you ever been to school oh my god I like that because you take that to the counter you walk outside you open it up hoping for sheet music you realise that Jess has fucked you again yeah it's all poems you want to see a CD in the cover it's poems describing music

And then it goes up a little bit. Loud, loud, loud, loud bit. Quiet finish. Like, oh, bastard me again. That sounds good though. Where's the MP3 download code? Well, Erin McLaughlin, you've done it again. Thanks so much.

And thanks to everyone that supports the show on Patreon. And some people have been doing that for a long time now, which we appreciate and we'd like to commemorate by adding people in, to what we've called the Triptitch Club, Matt. That's right. And Jess, you normally, yeah, you've explained that pretty well. Well, it's people that have been supporting the show at the shout-out level nonstop for three years plus, which is absolutely amazing. And as you enter the Trip Ditch Lounge, there is a weekly special.

And this week we have pints and sausage sizzle and voting. and voting. Yes, you get to vote. You can vote. Oh, wow. Whatever you want. Oh, but aren't we, I think David Milofsky, didn't he put himself up as like for president or something of the Triptych Club? Oh, yeah, we should.

No one else has put their hand up to go against it. It looks like it's a one horse race, but we still have to vote. Yeah, so, because we're a democracy. Yes. So get voting. And there's four inductees this week into the Triptage Club. Dave, who's playing them in? Well, we've actually got a live guest appearance from a former report topic.

The Wiggles! Yes. Original cast. Hot potatoes. Great. The Hot potato quartet themselves. It did not go well when they reunited it recently. They're only playing songs from, was their band The Cockroaches?

Yeah. They didn't play any Beatles. Petles. Wiggles sauce. All right. I imagine. Because they weren't even all in the cockroaches. Well, still.

So you said it didn't go well. People didn't like it. No, no, no, no, no. They were doing Wiggle stuff live. Dave's saying in the Triptitch Club, they're only doing Comptorch's stuff. Oh, my goodness, I'm stupid. Oh, but it didn't go well because Greg, was it Greg? Yeah.

Had a heart attack on stage. Oh. They did a tribute for, not a tribute, sorry, a fundraiser for a bushfire stuff, I believe. Which feels like a million years ago, and it was not that long ago. Yeah, and he had a heart attack on stage, and thankfully it was revived, and it's now become a bit of an advocate for. Defribulators. Yeah, for defibrillators.

Yeah, for different frivolators and people knowing CPR because he's like, I had no idea before. How have I missed all that? Yeah, there happened to be, I believe, a nurse was there and revived him. Yeah, that's right. I think so, yeah, she jumped into action. Yep. That's lucky.

Yeah. So, Stinky Greg. But in the Triftage Club, they're absolutely fine. Yeah, they're fine. And here, so it's original lineup. Original line up. And we also have plenty of defibrillators and many fire extinguishes, many fire exits. We're incredibly safe.

We're up to code, for sure. To a fault, actually. We've got so many fire extinguishes that is blocking the fire. downstairs but we'll be fine what are you going to do so there's four inductees this week from uh los angeles la la land tinsletown in california zach getting welcome into the club take a seat what was the what was the food and drink again it was a pint and a sausage is oh fantastic pint sausage vote watch the wiggles what a great afternoon grab a snag grab a pint we have we have veggie options grab a pint of seven bells which we got on tap oh wow

And from San Diego, also in California. Dona, Dona, Dona, Donald. Dona, take a seat, please. Chill air. From Greenville in South Carolina. Jason Feister. Jason, there's no standing room. Everyone has to sit. Take a seat.

Meester Feaster. Make yourself at home. And from Carlsbad in N.M. New Mexico? New Mexico. Oh, right. So I was trying to think of a country. Yeah, it must be New Mexico, right?

Yeah, from New Mexico. So for United States listeners or supporters, it is from Carlsbad in New Mexico. It is Derek Brigham. Derek Brigham. Hey, Brigham in. There's no COVID in the Triptage Club. Give us a hug.

Give us a hug and then sit down. Sit down on your chair. Everyone sit down. Jess went to a lot of effort to get you a director's chair with your name on the back. I got so many chairs. Everyone sit down. Please sit. Who wants to stand?

I could be at the option. I'd always sit down. Sit over stand, lie over sit. Yep. Agreed. Sit over stand. Slouch over sit. Lie over slouch.

Yep. And thank you to all those fantastic people for supporting the show and everyone that does so at patreon.com slash do go on pod. That's right. People should also listen to the other episodes we do over our other podcast this week because they're all going to be on the same theme. Yeah, that's right. Check out the Edgar Allan Poe story,

The Murders in the Room Morg, that Matt and I covered on bookcheat, which just came out the day before this. And, yeah, I'll see if I can think of something to listen now quickly. I was also thinking, we've got quite a history of literature episodes. If people are new to it because of Edgar Allan Poe,

maybe they could go back and listen to the Arthur Conan Doyle. We got rolled up. That's right. We did the disappearance of Agatha Christie where she disappeared and then reappeared. The Shakespeare? Have we done a Shakespeare? Yeah, we've done Shakespeare. Yeah, absolutely.

Have we done that? Yes. We've done J.R.R. Tolkien, even though no one remembers doing the report. Yeah, still. I don't think that was me. And we also did J.R.R. Rowing. Oh, J.K. Rowling. J.K. Rowling.

Who did Harry Potter. More great literature. So, yeah, there's plenty of. stuff for the bookish, if you're keen. But that pretty much brings us to the end of the episode. Yeah. Yes, thanks everyone for joining us. There's our website, do go onpod.com, and then there's links to Patreon.

Hey, I can suggest a topic. And all our other stuff, our social media is at do go on pod. We've got a Gmail, do go on pod at gmail.com. And of course, please check out our web series, which we are very proud of and still putting out weekly at the moment. Yeah, we've got another couple of months of episodes almost. So, and yeah, people do say they miss things sometimes. The best way to not miss announcements about live shows,

if say you're listening to things behind time, get on our social media. We post about everything important on there, and that's do go on pod across all of them. That's the best place to be. So bloody, get on board and check it out. Fantastic. All right, well, thanks for joining us.

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