Two In The Think Tank - 243 - Chuck Berry: The Father of Rock and Roll

Episode Date: June 17, 2020

Writing songs such as Maybellene and Johnny B. Goode, Chuck Berry would go on to be known as the Father of Rock and Roll, but his career did have its ups and downs including jail time and being plagiarised by the very bands his music inspired.This week's episode is brought to you by Express VPN, visit: ExpressVPN.com/dogoonSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodCheck out our webseries: https://www.youtube.com/user/stupidoldchannel Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicWatch the 100th episode of Prime Mates: https://sospresents.com/programs/prime-mates-live-re-editmp4-785b8d?categoryId=40976 Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.britannica.com/biography/Chuck-Berryhttps://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/chuck-berry-father-rock-n-roll-dies-90-missouri-police-n699311https://www.biography.com/musician/chuck-berry#birth-of-rock-n-rollhttps://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/500-greatest-songs-of-all-time-151127/chuck-berry-maybellene-59638/https://web.archive.org/web/20081217114104/http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2008-12-15-berry-house_N.htm

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No, but he steals the show. So good. His face wig is fantastic. Yeah, very expressive. Loved that about it. That was a great face comedy, which is my favorite comedy comedy. It's great.

Somehow he has less dialogue than the previous one where he had one line. But I love it. And you can check that out on a Patreon later this week at patreon.com slash do go on pod. That's right. But the way this show works is one of the three of us research as a topic, often being suggested by a listener, then we go away and we deep dive into it, we surround it, we bathe in it, we lather up in the topic until we know it back to front inside out.

It gets inside of us, we get inside of it. Then we come back to the class and we tell everyone all about it. This week I'm the one who's been lathering up in history and bathing in it. You do look different. So this... Have you shaved with history? Yeah, yeah. Wow, looks so good. Yeah, so we normally get on a topic with a question this week I'm asking what I think is an easy question. I thought I make it real easy. So this will be a speed round who gets it real quick one I reckon. Yes, I can kill you Dave. This is going to be a real big evil Which musical pioneer is known as the father of rock and roll who is famous for songs such as Maybelline and Johnny Begood. Little Richard?

No. Chuck Berry. Yeah. Well done. Little Richard was a, he was, he was, some would say he's the king of rock and roll. I like it's one of those terms it's a bit disputed. Yeah. But I think most broadly Chuck Berry is known as the father of rock and roll. It's one of those terms that's a bit disputed. But I think most broadly, Chuck Berry is known

as the father of rock and roll. But yeah, even Chuck Berry says it, he would say, I was just a cog in the machine. That's what I saw an interview with him. He said, I'm just a cog in the machine. And they asked, oh, who else is? And he said, he mentioned Little Richard as one of the elders, as another cog.

Another cog. He's like, we're all just cogs in the machine. What an absolute compliment. He's a cog. He's a, well, just cogs in the machine. What an absolute compliment. He's a coge, he's a coge, you're a coge. Yeah, Chuck Berry. So I put up a vote for the Patrons. I've been in lockdown. I've been reading and watching a lot of music history.

So I put up three music legends for the vote. Chuck Berry edged out a Reether Franklin by three votes and she had about twice as many votes as Hank Williams. It was in a distant third. Wow. And hopefully I'll get to do all of them eventually anyway, but yeah, Chuck Berry just snuck ahead. It was one of those ones that took a few days

and it was neck and neck and then he just snuck out by three solitary votes. Oh, that's right. It's one of the solitary votes. That, you get the person's solitary votes. That's not a thing. If you individualize all three votes, there's only three solitary votes. Oh my God, well, that's a good sign early.

I haven't even sold the report. That's a tight race. It is, yes. And some great topics you put up to the vote. Well, that would have been a hard decision, I think. I would not have been able to pick so I'm glad I did. I would have voted for the little Richard, especially. Yeah.

All right, let's get cracking. Charles Edward Anderson Berry was born on October the 18th, 1926 in St. Louis, Missouri. I like that it says real name, Chuck Berry. It's got a bit of a stage name vibe. Yeah, definitely. It's a great stage name. Such a great name. So good to be blessed with a good stage name like Jess Perk. So I mean the release shine. Yeah we can see it up in lots.

You can get the URL because there's only one. Yeah. How many Jesses do you know? Not many. How many Perkinses do you know? One. Can count on one hand, and I am one of them. Yeah, it's your immediate family. Yeah, there's so many. Henry's father was a carpenter and a deacon at the Antioch Baptist Church, his mum was a principal at a local school. Martha and Henry were the grandchildren of slaves. They moved to St. Louis from rural Missouri during the period surrounding World War I. According to Bography.com, at the time of Barry's birth, St. Louis was a sharply segregated city. He grew up in a North St. Louis neighborhood called theville, a self-contained middle-class black community that was a haven for black owned businesses and institutions.

The neighborhood was so segregated that Barry had never even encountered a white person until the age of three when he saw several white firemen putting out a fire. I thought they were all so frightened that their faces were white and from fear of going near the big fire he once recalled. Wow. Daddy told me that they were white people and their skin was always white that way. They all not. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Harry Davis is like a kind of, that is a kind of common name, but it still sounds like a showbiz name. Yeah, it's like a combo.

Sounds like a man that wears a jacket. Yeah, you're right, good. Well, kind of jacket. Like a velvet jacket to me. Oh, yeah. Harry Davis is here. Hello. Is he wearing a bow tie?

Yes. You're matching this? Is he a lounge singer? Yes, I'm thinking of Sammy Davis. Yes. Do you know? He started singing in the church choir when only six years old. At his high school talent show, Barry sang jazz musician Jay McChannes confessing the

blues accompanied by a friend on guitar. I was also in the choir in primary school. Oh yeah. Yeah, you got out of class to go to choir practice, so signed me up. Yeah, great. I was in the primary school with choir as well. Yeah. Did you ever have a solo? A great time.

It was once in a quartet. Ooh, not a solo, that was it. Well, it's a solo tree for... Oh, solo tree. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha The student audience loved it and it inspired Barry to learn the guitar. So he was just singing at that point and he was like, oh, I want to get in on that guitar action. The LA Times later wrote that he had eclectic musical interests and influences from the blues of Muddy Waters and the swing of Count Bassi to country and mainstream pop.

But I've seen interviews with him later in life where he said he really loved big bands and like Kruynas, like Frank Sinatra and Nat King Cole, which while the interview was really surprised by like, oh, it's, and he's like, yeah, I kind of, that's kind of what I I'd sort of did guitar versions of big band music because of how he saw it later. But yeah, it seems like he didn't talk about it like that until much later on. People like, I've looked at every interview you've ever done, you've never mentioned that.

Yeah. At 17, he bought his first car in 1933 Ford saying, it cost me $34. Man, it took me three months to pay for it. And now I had to have some older friends sign for it because I was only 17. 34 bucks. I know it's all relative.

I know it is, but it's still so mind-boggling to think of $34 for a car. I've spent more on a t-shirt. Yeah, that is wild. It was a 10-year-old car, I guess, at the time. Oh, yeah, okay. You spent more money on a single cocktail. Yeah, definitely. Have you? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, if I did. They're ridiculous.

Yeah. But it's the kind of thing. Yeah. That would be... I would only ever pay that if I was... I'd already ordered it. And then they set it. I'm like, oh no. Yeah, I did not look at the price. I wonder, I once got caught out in that, I was on a, I'm having some drinks with some people from work. And I'll get the next round.

Let's get, let's take it up a notch. I'm gonna get, no. Fodca Red Bulls. No. For four of us. And it was 105 bucks or something. And I like, get the credit card out. Oh, I'm on after shuffle some funds around for the budget this weekend.

All right. But they already made the drink. Yeah, they were. Oh, they poured them. That's it. I mean, I was locked in. I would have taken out a loan rather than had to go actually. That's stupid. There's only four of you. Please tell me you were having two each. No, that's stupid. There's only four of you. Please tell me you were having two age. No, that was one age.

It was in Perth. I think they have a weird economy over there. That's far. It was, it was while mining was still doing. Did they, was the bartender fly and fly out of their fly and make your drink and then go home? Yeah, that'd fly out. Get the ingredients and bring them back.

That is outrageous. What is it with you and Vod Carradbles? Where will you learn? Well, I've learnt now. That was a while ago. Far out. 34 bucks for a car though. Love it. A 10-year-old car like that helps. My car is 17 years old.

I spent nearly a grand on it today just getting a fucking service. 34 dollars. Anyway, I'm fine. He didn't enjoy the academic side of school too much and according to Biography.com, in 1944 at the age of 17, Barry and two friends dropped out of high school and set off on an impromptu road trip to California. I love how this paragraph's written. It makes it sound like they quit school and just jumped in a car and drove away from the

school on a road trip. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's how it worked out in my head. I might be condensing things. They'd gone no farther than Kansas City when they came across a pistol abandoned in a parking lot and seized by a terrible fit of youthful misjudgment, decided to go on a robbing spree. Brandishing the pistol, they robbed a bakery, a clothing store, and a barber shop. Then stole a car before being arrested by highway patrolman.

The three young men, so the 17, in a split, they just found a gun and they're... They found a gun! Oh, what do you do with a gun? Oh, robbing spree? I guess so. Just go shoot some cans or something. You know? Not my precious antique cans. I got one of robbing spree. The three young men received the maximum penalty, ten years in jail. Oh my God. Well, they were kids. They were might, and this is despite being minors and first-time offenders. Barry was released on good behavior after serving three years.

Oh my God. 17th, 21st, 21st. Imagine that a spur of the moment, a bit of peer-grupper, kids being a bit dumb. No one got hurt. God, kids are dumb. In jail for three years. You've, you've, you're basically driven away from school.

School behind the wheel. And then you're basically driven into prison. Oh, man. That's awful. Well, that is, yeah, full on. So he served three years in the intermediate reformatory for young men in Missouri. He was released on October 18, 1947, his 21st birthday. Returning to St. Louis, he worked multiple jobs, including for his father's

construction company as a part-time photographer and as a janitor. So he's just doing a bit of everything. The following year, he married The Metta Sugs. And they- No, no, one more time please. The Metta Sugs. The Metta Sugs. And they- No, no, one more time, please. The Metta Sugs. The Metta Sugs. I love Sugs in the center. Sugs is incredible. That's why I wanted clarification.

I was like, I think he said Sugs. I've never heard of The Metta as a name either. No. He had a short nickname for it, which I mentioned later, I don't know what it was but the madness yeah front man's name so I think these are my whereup. Yeah it's great now you would know being a big guy man you probably covered a lot of madness tracks back in wheat hornet. I was more of the second or third wave right. Let's do it you pay tribute to the greats. Yeah.

What does sky sound like again. Um, how does that sound? Well, I know how it actually sounds. They were second wave Dave. Isn't that, that's where you got the nickname second wave Dave, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I thought it was because you were a surfer. So, Sugs and Barry, oh my God, I never even considered that. Sugs and Barry, I hope you kept in name. They went on to have four children together and they were real good names of kids, although just might disagree. You never know what you're going to say. That's true.

I never know what I'm going to say. Dylan Ingrid, Aloha, Charles Jr. and Melody. Charles Jr. got the short straw. Yeah, I think that's the first one. Darling Ingrid. Darling. Yeah. Oh my God.

Yes, then Aloha. Oh yeah. Incredible. Charles Jr. Charles Jr. So sorry mate, but fuck you, you're in the bin, you suck, and then your little system melody. Yeah.

Fantastic names. Aloha's got to be my favorite. Aloha's a fantastic name. And Darlan Ingrid, I saw her interviewed in more recent years, and she just seems to go by Ingrid now. I think she's. I go by Darlan. Yeah, I think she's.

I wouldn't, I'd go by Ingrid. Yeah, probably, but Darlan, it just makes me think of Dolly Parton. Yeah, I think she's. I wouldn't. I'd go by Ingrid. Yeah, probably. But darling, it just makes me think of Dolly partner. Totally. How are you spelling, darling? D-A-R-L-I-N. That's great.

Is there an apostrophe or anything there? No, that should be. That's great. Yeah, this should be. Stylized, with an apostrophe. Ah, that is beautiful. So already he's, I mean, he's already had spent time in jail. He's early 20s

He's also been a photographer worked in carpentry janitor Then he went on to train as a beautician and by 1950 had earned enough to buy a small brick cottage in St. Louis for his young family I wish I knew the price, but I bet you it was like 600 bucks. Yeah As a beautician. Yeah. Cool. In 1951, his old schoolmate, Tommy Stevens, asked Berrida to join his band as a guitarist. According to biography.com, they played at local Black Knight clubs in St. Louis and Barry quickly developed a reputation for his lively showmanship. At the end of 1952, he met Johnny Johnson,

a local jazz pianist. Johnny Johnson. Johnny Johnson. Oh my God, there's so many good names already. And he joined his band, The Sir John's Trio. Very revitalized the band and introduced upbeat country numbers into the band's repertoire of jazz and pop music.

I think for the most part, country music was a super white genre, especially back then. I think it's still probably as relatively. I've been watching on SBS. It's an American documentary series called Country Music. And yeah, it does paint that kind of picture. Even though it was quite influenced by a lot of black American music, it didn't seem to be mainly what performance. Yeah. I love it when they think of very creative names for TV shows and documentaries as well, like country music. Yeah. It's very good. It's good that they got, you know, they got some people into a room and just really, really nutted it out. But what's it about? Yeah. That's what it says on the bloody tin.

That's for sure. Yeah, that's some, you know what? The bloody we say, what we mean. Barry started driving up to Chicago in search of a record deal. He'd make a few trips up there. And in early 1955, he met up with legendary blues musician, Muddy Waters. You guys familiar with Muddy Waters?

He's now known as the father of Chicago Blues. Waters was a hugely influential artist. I kind of wanted to do a whole report on him, but one thing that sort of shows how influential he was on future bands. The Rolling Stones band and magazines are both named after is not a 50 song Rolling Stones. I think I think even the magazine might have been partially named after that song and the Rolling Stones but the Rolling Stones are named after the song so it's and then you've also got the Bob Dylan song like a Rolling

Stones. Yeah. So the time there were if you wanted to be involved in rock and roll you had to be a stone you had to be rolling. Yeah. If you're if you're a sedentary stone get out of your plane. You got to be a Rolling Stone. You have to be a stone, you have to be rolling. Yeah. If you're a sedentary stone, get out of town. What are you playing? You've got to be a rolling stone. You've got to be a rolling rock and a rolling. Anyway, Muddy Waters loved Barry's guitar playing and he set up a meeting between Barry and chess records, who I think Waters had recorded with.

A few weeks later, Barry wrote and recorded a song called Maybelline for chess records. It was released. This is literally a few weeks later Barry wrote and recorded a song called Mabeline for chess records. It was released, this is like literally a few weeks later. It was released in July of 1955. It was a big hit. Went to number one on the R&B chart and made the top five on the pop chart. His first song. Yeah, which you recorded a couple of weeks after driving up to Chicago and trying to set up a record deal. Wow. Well, yes. So, wild. Many call this the first rock and roll record, Maybelline. And though there is no definitive hold of that title,

the song is indisputably a pioneering rock song. Because it's not like there was this line where it was like, all right, this is a brand new thing. It's sort of, because it morphed out of all these different places. There's no definitive starting point. Some people say songs back as far as the 40s could be called the first rock song, rock and roll song. Rolling Stone would later rate it as the 18th greatest song of all time. First song in record, 18th grader's song will play. Oh, yeah! And the other 17, also his song, so otherwise you'd be a bit disappointed. Rock and roll, this is what they wrote when they

named the song as the 18th grader's song. Rock and Roll guitar starts here. The pile up of hillbilly country, urban blues and hot jazz and Chuck Berry's electric twang is the primal language of pop music guitar. And it's all perfected on his first single. jazz and Chuck Berry's electric twang is the primal language of pop music guitar, and it's all perfected on his first single. The entire song is a two minute chase scene packed with car culture vernacular and Berry's

hip stillingo inventions. People like this line that he uses. As I was motivating over the hill, this is made up of word, which is fun. Its groove comes from Iter-d, a 1938 recording by Bob Will's and his Texas playboys, who are one of the bands featured in the country music series, of a song that dates back to the 19th century. So it's Roots go a while back this song. By the time of the May 21st of May 21st, 1955, Barry had been playing country tunes for black audiences for a few years.

After they laughed at me a few times, they began requesting the hillbilly stuff. He is said, Leonard Chess came up with a title. He had it written as a different name, and then Leonard Chess from Chess Records saw a Maybelline mascara box log on the floor and said, what are we called? Maybelline. There's no mention of Maybelline in the song or anything like that. Yeah, I mean, he changed the name of the... Okay.

So the song's all about, it's like a, it's a car chase and I'll sort of a love chase. Maybelline, why can't you be true? This track kicked off a long string of hits for Barry, including Roll over Beethoven, school day, Ring Ring goes the bell, rock and roll music, sweet little 16, run, run, root off, and possibly what became his signature song, Johnny Be Good.

So these are all charting right up the top of the R&B, many of them crossing over in the pop charts as well. Awesome. And all just sit within the first few years of his career. Released in April of 1958, Johnny Be Good was rated as the seventh greatest song of all time. No, I swell, don't sir. Seventh greatest song of all time.

What now? And you're having two of the top 20. Yeah. What's that as a percentage of the top 20 songs of all time, Dave? Of all time. Two out of the top 20, what does that mean? What does 10%?

10%! Ha! Of the top songs Of all time. Two out of the top 20. What does that mean? 10% 10% of the top songs of all time. I'll write 10% of the top songs of all time. I have a deal. Just out of interest. What's the number one? Do you have any idea what the number one song is? Yeah, it was like a Rolling Stone by Bob Dylan. Number two. Number two was the Rolling Stones satisfaction. So yeah, it's funny. And this is by Rolling Stone magazine. Where was I believe in a thing called love by the darkness? Oh, yeah, it was stiff.

It was stiff to miss out. Should have been higher. Kailas Whisper. That would be, that's probably a chance, would it be? In the top 10. Well, it's not. It is in the top 10. 10% of the top 20 are Kailas Whis careless whisper because they had the remix as well. Amazing.

So this is what they wrote about Johnny Be Good. Johnny Be Good was the first rock and roll hit about rock and roll stardom. It's still the greatest rock and roll song about the democracy of fame and pop music. It's funny that they're so specific. You're like, it's the seventh best song of all time you're saying. So yeah, I reckon it's the best song about the democracy of fame in pop music. It's such a weird thing to write, anyway. And Johnny Be Good is based, in fact, the title character is Chuck Berrymore or less

as he told Rolling Stone in 1972. The original words were, of course, that little colored boy could play. I change it to country boy, or else it wouldn't get on the radio so you have to do that a few times change things that were sort of there was one song about skin color and he changes the eye color just because he had to he had to do that to get the mainstream radio play. Yeah You can't mention skin color on radio. You probably could, you can only mention one skin color on radio.

There's a right one to mention on radio. That's fucking crazy. Awful. Barry took other narrative liberties. Johnny came from deep down in Louisiana, close to New Orleans, Carnabot singing, well, I wouldn't call it singing, but it's hard not to say that rhythmically.

Rather than Barry St. Louis, and Johnny never ever learned to read a write so well, as he says in the song, while Barry graduated from beauty school, with a degree in hairdressing and cosmetology. No beauty school dropout over here. No. Working, uh, turning flashing queens.

Yes, I did. I just picked out one of those crushing scenes. What was he to do? Oh, I mean, I'm going to talk about it how he's often ripped off and I never connected the nanny theme. That is a blatant, Tony. His love story. His love story.

He could rip off. Because he was held on his fanny. Oh, where was he to go? Oh, man. Dave's got musical skills. Can you record a cake? The lyrics of the Nanny theme to the music of Johnny Be Good. Could you pull that together? Oh, it's hard. It's going to sound great. I think it would be a big hit. And probably pretty niche circles.

And then you get a bit of stand up, a bit of introduction. What would it sound like if the nanny was played by Chuck Berry? I think it would go a little something. But the essence of Berry's tale, a guitar player with nothing to his name, but chops goes to the big city

and gets his name in lights is autobiographical. Meeting Muddy Waters in 1955, and by 1958, Barry was rock and roll's most consistent hit maker after Elvis Presley, just in three years. Unlike Presley though, Barry wrote his own classics. And there's a quote from Ben, suck shit Elvis. Well, I mean, at the time, I think in country music, I think it was quite common for the singers to write their own songs, but in pop music, I don't think it was. So yeah, I wonder if that was something he sort of brought across, but I mean, Presley also can't, I came from the country scene a little bit as well. Um, because he's featured in this documentary country music. Yeah. He was like a natural blonde.

I did not know that. Dottie's hair black. Well, I probably did because we've done an episode about him. Yeah, but there's so this runs through so many past episodes. Right. I mean, already we've had Elvis. Let's say we can tick him off as we go, but Elvis is definitely one previous episode we've had so far.

Yeah, but anyway, this is what Elvis once said about Chucky. He said, I just wish I could express my feelings the way Chuck Berry does. Wow, that's nice. Johnny Begood is the supreme example of Barry's poetry and motion. The rhythm section rolls with freight train momentum while Barry's stabbing single note lick in the chorus sounds,

as he put it, like a ring in a bell. A perfect description of how rock and roll guitar can make you feel on top of the world. So that's what the Rolling Stone wrote about that song. That's nice. As well as Mae Belene and Johnny Be Good, Barry had a further four tracks in their 500 greater songs of all time.

What? So six altogether. more than 1% Yeah, isn't that that's why it's actually crazy. Yeah out of that many songs. Yeah 500 of all time Yeah, you wouldn't think that would be a hard list to narrow down, but it really is yeah, I can't think of 500 songs just off the top of my head Oh, I did I did my 100 last year, yeah, and it was a process. Yeah, it is.

And I would already have changed in the last six months. In those early years, rock and roll was seen as a fad. It's just funny to think now. I think I've only just recently come to terms of the fact that it has an always been around. Yeah, I just, it just feel like guitar music, guitar rock. Because I'm like, I've sort of fading from mainstream a little bit over the last decade or so.

And I'm like, is that permanent now? Because it wasn't always here. It wasn't. It wasn't always be here. Yeah, I've actually had to consider that either. Is it moved to the underground permanently? No, I mean, it's not deep underground. Yeah. There's still bands making a lot of money.

Yeah, you walk into a music shop, they're like, no guitars here. Yeah, sorry. You have to go down the lane. Yeah, meet me up back. We'll get with a Gretch. It's a like, I think there's still bands who sell lots of tickets and tour and stuff,

but I just don't think you know what it's't seem in the top 10 would be very very rare. And new music coming through is isn't you know, the big vein. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. But yeah, it's all cyclical. It could come back. In those early years, Rock and Roll was seen as a fat as I said. And when asked by the LA Times if he bought into that, the idea that it was just a fat, he said, oh yes. Oh yes. Oh yes. He said, and I can give you an example.

Tim Gail at Gail Agency told me after Maybelline, you can ride on this for three years. You play the big cities, then the middle cities, then go overseas. But I came up with another hit six months later. So I figured, well that's three and a half years now, then I had another hit. So that was four years, and he just kept having hits. And the genre seemed to kick on. No, they won't let me die. It's so funny because a lot of the music biographies that we do, you hear their first album was pretty good,

but you don't really know any songs from it. And then it takes a few albums before they're really hitting success, or it's the opposite, and they have a lot of early success and they're nothing, but he's just killing it from the start. That's amazing. Wild. It's really cool. Wild. It's really cool. In 1958, Barry was able to afford to move his family into a bigger house. But that's, so I mentioned before he bought a little three-bedroom place. That cottage you lived in from 1950 to 1958, where he wrote a lot of those classic hits. Still stands today, and in 2008, it was listed in the National Register of Historic Places.

It's an honor to be selected for this dream my lifetime Barry said at the time. Many of my favorite songs came about while in that house. It's good to know that my music and now that that house will always be part of the St. Louis history. That's cool. I want to, so I want to visit that house.

Yeah. As well as recording many classic songs through this period, Barry was also an electric live performer. As the LA Times would later write, he brought his classic songs to life on stage with such an energetic show highlighted by a zany low-strutton duck war that no one in the audience seemed to notice that Barry was in his thirties, ancient by rock standards at the time, and almost a full decade older than Elvis and Buddy Holly. Wow. So in 1955, maybe Lane, he was 29 and he was your age.

So maybe that was part of the success. He'd done some stuff. But he'd worked so many different jobs. He looked great because he was a beautician. That's true. He looked 10 years younger than Elvis. He looked younger than Elvis. Oh yeah. Elvis younger than Elvis. Yeah, Elvis looked like shit. Yeah, oh gosh.

Yuck. Yeah, what an unattractive mother. And well, Elvis, we're done an episode on Buddy Holly also, episode 10, about what happens when you die that started with the Buddy Holly. That's right. That's right, the music died story. But yeah, I found that pretty fascinating as well because his songs are sort of famously they're all about teenage life and stuff and that was just a conscious thing.

He was writing the music for teens so he's like, I'll write what they want to hear about. Yeah, like when you... When you're 17, you leave school one day and you find a gum and you're done in prison. You know, just kid stuff. It's stuff. It's stuff. I can relate to. Get in your first stiffie, you know, kid stuff.

And that was because that was what he was sort of saying in that in that later interview I was talking about before with Big Ben's and stuff. He's like, when I was a teenager, Big Ben's was the music. So that was the stuff that really energized me and that was kind of my generation. And then I was sort of playing the music for the next generation. He can't so do you know with what I mean when I say the duck walk? He's famous sort of He's got a guitar on his like going he gets low down and he So what the back of the heels tap it along. Yeah, and he sort of moving on. It's almost like a forward moonwalk

Yeah, and with a of moved along. It's almost like a forward moonwalk. Yeah, and a bit more action going on. Yeah. Sort of, and if you had like a long runway, you could go the whole way down. Yeah, yeah. I'm still playing the guitar and it's just, it was a real cool fun thing. So very, very dynamic live show. He came up with his famous duck walk, Twenton Tainey's family when he was a child apparently, do it under the table. Oh, the family when it was a child apparently do it under the table Family loved it the duck walk even has its own Wikipedia page Where it's described as quote a form of locomotion performed by assuming a low partial squatting position and walking forwards maintaining the low stance They really take the fun Did Angus from I see DC do something yeah, I very heavily borrowed influence But made slightly creepier by the fact he's wearing a school uniform. Yes, and he was an old man

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industry. People are keen to hit start them. They want to be in the music industry and and there's some naivety around it I guess. So it sounds like during the 50s everyone was just ripped off. I think Elvis was pretty famously ripped off a lot. It that happened with very affair bit but according to the LA Times, Barry made more money than most 50s performers because he had so many hits, and he was in constant demand as a live act. Besides, he gained a reputation

as a hard-nosed businessman. That's all that beauty school training. Yeah. So much of that is also running your own beauty business. So, you know, you learn how to balance the book, so you got to. And you know what, you learn the value of your work and you learn to charge that, you know. And so I think

it's great that he has that experience to go into being a rock star. Uh-huh. In 1958, Barry opened a club in the predominantly white business district in downtown St. Louis. So it's done pretty well. We started to make some investments. His club was seen as controversial though, as it had a racially mixed clientele. Barry later remembered that things were made difficult for him and the club, saying, they made us paint the walls, fix the pipes, made us do all kinds of fire protection, but I knew why.

I wasn't wanted on Grand Avenue. I was the instigator. The scene has been the one who was changing things out. This is a white neighborhood. So the way I read that, I was like, they were making all these stringent sort of counts. Jump through these hoops,

making it difficult, yeah. Which sucks. Breaking pipes and saying, well, you need to get those pipes fix. Yeah, I bet that's fine Yeah, oh no, what a nightmare Throughout this time he was also touring constantly while releasing his you know regular stream of hit records Then on December 23rd 1959 his career was suddenly halted when he was arrested in his hometown of St. Louis, Missouri, charged with violating the Man Act, MA Double N Man Act.

According to Heavy.com, this is a federal law which makes it illegal to engage in the transportation of an individual for prostitution or debauchery or for any other immoral purpose. It was intended to crack down on human trafficking and prostitution, but in a number of cases it was used to target high profile black men. Boxer Jack Johnson was also charged with violating the man act in a case that was highly racially motivated. The only thing they have to try and prove is that you've just crossed across the state line with someone underage.

Anyway, so it's, yeah, they don't have to actually prove anything illegal happened. The illegal thing was crossing the state lines. Heavy goes on. While performing on the road, Barry had met a 14 year old waitress, Janice Nareen Escalante, according to Barry, she told him he was 21, as she was 21, and he invited her to come work at his nightclub in St. Louis. However, she was fired from the club after only a few weeks. Barry said he fired her because she came onto him at work. According to the book American Legends, the life of Chuck Barry, it didn't help Barry's case that Escalante had a background in prostitution,

14-year-old, with a background in prostitution. And some first-hand accounts suggest that he was flirting with her on the road, something that Berry vehemently denied. Not long after she was fired, Escalante was arrested on charges of prostitution. She told the police about her working situation with Barry and this led to his arrest. At the conclusion of a two week trial, Barry was sentenced to five years in prison. What? He appealed, arguing that the judge was racist and boss against him. The jury in the case also consisted entirely of white men. Barry's appeal was successful, but in the second trial, he was convicted again. This time to three years in prison, he appealed a third time and in the end Barry spent a year

and a half in prison. The second was in prison. During this time, his club bandstand was closed down. The heavy article also quotes Barry, a barographer, Bruce Pegg, saying that during the trial, quote, every witness that got on the stand, when they identified someone, the judge would interrupt and say, was that a white man or a black man attempting to remind the jury at every turn

that they needed to view the events through the lens of race? That was the judge. That was the judge, yeah. Right. Just so kind of blatant by the sounds of it. And if, I mean, if that's, if what he thought they

were trying to do is have his business shut down that they were successful and you know, they sent him to jail. Obviously, it's the kind of thing where you just don't know what the real story is, but you know, it's hard to not think that. Yeah. And it's one of the most famous performers in the country. Yeah, that's right. He's a huge star and Yeah, I know we're going to like obviously now. It's not like these aren't racist times as well But back then it was pretty it was in your face. Yeah, more blatant. Yes Yes, even though you know what we're seeing up world stage of the moment isn't necessarily yes, well, that's particularly subtle Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's hard to.

But it was like some, yeah, you know, how do you compare it, but still a different time. In his autobiography, Barry refers to this time in prison as being a period of self-improvement. He remained musically active behind bars, writing a number of songs that later became hits. He also, I think he worked on his business acumen and he, I'm sure I heard him say somewhere that he worked on his maths and he, someone asked him later what advice would you give

younger you and he said, first, you know, get good at music, then get good at maths, then get good at business. Cause these are the things that are important as anything else in the business just because he's so aware of getting ripped off I think. And then yeah, I think that led to him getting a bit of a reputation as a TIDAR. So you'd expect payments and cash because it got ripped off a few times. And then I'm like, does that make you the TIDAR?

So you want to get paid for the work that's done? Oh, come on, title. All right, all right. You want me to pay you for your job? All right. There was a story Keith Richards told on Jimmy Fallon and he goes, so we're backstage after a show and then he went off to collect his cash. He's a bit of a tight ward.

Well, what do you talk? And he's like Keith Richards idle. I hope we mean getting paid, I guess in Keith Richards' like I'll let other people handle it. Yeah, you maybe, I don't know what. Maybe getting ripped off. So yeah, he, anyway, he sees is, he tried to make a positive thing about that time behind bars. But in 1963, he was released from prison and resumed his music career. While behind bars, his legacy was kept alive by the bands who were

influenced by him, perhaps most notably the Beatles, but the wrong stones and all these rock bands that come out, especially from England and the British invasion. The Beatles were very open about berries influence on them, and in 1963 they had a number one single with a cover of Roll Over Bate Hover. That was a number one hit single in Australia. I don't think it went number one anywhere else. In 1965, I've had another Australian number one with a cover of Barry's Rock and Roll music. During this period, the Beatles would also cover Barry's too much monkey business, Carol, Johnny Be Good, Memphis Tennessee, and Sweet Little Six Day. So they could put an album together of the Beatles, Barry covers.

Chuck Berry's greatest hits as played by the Beatles. They're basically a Barry cover band. Early on, they really were. So much of their sound, it was like, it's the kind of thing we were like, oh, that blurry line between influence and just full on ripping off. Well, I mean, it's pretty blatant if they are just playing this. Yeah, well, interestingly, the Beach Boys also covered many of Barry's songs. And I hadn't noticed that before, but I was listening to some Beach Boys before.

I'm like, oh, they're so obviously heavily influenced, borderline ripping off. One of the songs they covered was Sweet Little 16. Only they changed most of the words and didn't credit him. They're like Sweet Little 17. The song, do you know the song Surf and USA? Yeah, yeah that's a that is a full-on rip-off. It was a big hit according to Rolling Stone Magazine Beach Boys songwriter Brian Wilson said he intended the song as a tribute to the rock guitarist. But Barry's lawyers used another term, plagiarism. I like to see it more as a homage, if you will. At least give him a co-writing credit or

something, seeing as he wrote the song. So which song have they changed there to be surfing? Surfing, USA. So it was sweet little six day, but in the verse of sweet little six day, he's talking about all these different places, which is what surfing USA is. Yeah. And he's just changing from sweet little six day to surfing USA. It's exactly the same song.

Wow. I mean, for me, that's a nomash. A nomash. What a beautiful nomash. I love nomash. Thank you so much. Now, can you cut me a check? Yeah. Can I get paid? Yeah

Right, all right, all right, all right Oh industry's ripped him off. Yeah, oh this title. Oh my god, this is over here expecting it was supposed to get paid. Also finally get paid. Freeze work. God damn you all love Keith Richards. It's like mate, we're not all like going into the dressing room doing

all the drugs in the world. I love one of every drug. Rolling Stone went on to say that quote, with the threat of lawsuits looming Beach Boys manager and Brian Wilson's father Murray Wilson agreed to give the publishing rights to arc music Berries publisher. However, Berries' name wouldn't appear on the songwriting credits until three years later in 1966. So, of course, if a VFL, the St. Kilda Saints won their one and only premier. What a fantastic tribute it was to finally name Chuck Berries. It was the songwriter. It was a big hit. Was that Grand Final in an Omar? Yeah, it was. It tribute to the great king of rock and roll. The Beatles weren't quite so blatant but they also ripped off Barry's work on multiple occasions according to Rolling Stone. On I saw you standing there which kicked off the fab fours debut album debut album. The swipe was the bass line from Chuck Barry's I'm talking about you.

Really, so many a couple of years earlier. McCartney said soon after, quote, I played exactly the same notes as he did and it fit our number perfectly. Even now when I tell people about it, I find few of them believe me. Therefore, I maintain that a bass riff doesn't have to be original. Should I find an interesting take away? Yeah, interesting. I mean, if you get away with it, you could say it is basically in there, but in one quarter of the music. Yeah. I've only ripped off one part of his song.

This guy that we love. Yeah. And it's not that I've changed it slightly. I've been inspired by it. I'm doing the exact same thing. But I mean, it's not the same. Well, it is Paul. It is. Yeah, it's weird. It's funny that it's just a different time thing. Here at a bit with, like, generation with comedy as well, we're like a few decades back now. People would just steal jokes and be like, and they'd be like, oh, you should say that as a compliment. Now that's obviously not the case anymore, but that was there was a... Now you'd be cancelled. Yeah. Perhaps more famously, the John Lennon pen to come together rips off berries you

can't catch me from Rolling Stone again. When Lennon played an early version of come together for the other Beatles, McCartney pointed out that it was very similar to Chuck Berry's 9-56 single you can't catch me. McCartney pointed out that it was very similar to Chuck Berry's 9-56 single, you can't catch me. McCartney said, John acknowledged it was rather close to it. So I said, well, anything you can do to get away from that. So they slowed it down and McCartney added a swampy baseline.

He added an original baseline. Swampy. Yeah. A swampy baseline. What's a swampy? What are you? Walking through a swamp? Quang, quang, quang, sludgy.

Quang, quang, quang, quang, quang. Have you walked through the swamp? Yeah, it sounds like that. It sounds like blowing into one of those clay pots. Woo, woo, woo, woo. Did I say you could stop? The lyrics, however, so they've slowed it down. Obviously, totally changed the song.

Swampy baseline. You've changed the tempo. Swamped it up. Add this one The lyrics however included a line Here come old flat top he come grooving up slowly, you know, you'd be familiar come together Just so you know I'm all flat up Crew went up lonely. Yeah, how swam bitters that sounds so sw sound? So from the song that Lenin kind of ripped off. Yes. I think you could argue that this is pretty good proof that he just left in plain sight.

Barry had a line in his song. Here come a flat top. He was moving up with me. Okay. Here come a flat top. Here come a flat top. Here come a flat top. Move out with me. No, I'm gonna change. He's never got it. He's never ch... Like it's... That's like a filler at the rehearsal. I'll change that later. Obviously, I don't want everyone to know

that I've definitely ripped off. A guy who I say is my hero. Yeah. That's what I find so weird. It's an homage thing because like, oh, you... But you're just stealing. But then I guess Chuck sort of was doing similar things when he started out. He was borrowing from his influences and that as well.

But yeah, I'm not sure if it's quite as blatant as this though. Yeah. And a guy whose record label has gone after the Beach Boys. Like, maybe he's going to clearly want credit, right? Yeah. So I won't rip it off. Yeah. In an interview, Leonard acknowledgedon acknowledged the song's source,

which proved inconvenient when Morris Levy, music world heavy and publisher of You Can't Catch Me, sued Lennon in 1973. But let's see, other thing, I think some of those buried deals meant that he didn't really have control of some of those songs as well. That resulted in a sequence of suits and counter suits. But the bottom line was that Lennon agreed to cover three songs owned by Levy

Which he did a straight-up cover of you can't catch me Which is you know, so he what he did was he sped up come together Took out a bit of the swamp and then slightly changed the lyrics back And he also did two different versions of Lee Dorsi's yeah, yeah What a weird deal. Yeah. All right, I've been busted, basically covering one of your songs. Now I have to cover three of your songs.

Yeah. So I guess it's like, we'll make money back that way. I'll let you see you paying for it. You're a big artist, so whatever you make or sell. Yeah. There seem to be no hard feelings between Leonard and Barry though. They met for the first time. There's something people talk about.

Barry is like a real bitter and grumpy guy. He changed a lot after coming out of jail, which I'll mention soon, they say. But I don't know, everything I see of him, I'm like, he seems fun and nice and lovely. So there's a video I'll link it in the show. I'd say that in interviews, real nice interview from like the 70s. And there's a video I'll link it in the show and it's have an interview. It's a real nice interview from like the 70s and there's only one comment on it and it's like great singer but what an ego. I'm like and

I'll reply to him like he seems so humble in this interview. I don't understand. So strange. Oh and you fallen for their trap. You engaged. You engaged. That comment had like 80 likes. I did anyway. You felt you had to defend. I'm just like, I'm just like, have you, did you watch the video? You comment?

I feel like he did and he's got an idea in his head. No, those likes, that's 80 people waiting for an idiot to reply, sucked in. To another idiot. It's a Venus fly trap. Yeah, I'm just settled on it. Yeah, I'm a sucker. Um, so yeah, but they they did seem to be no hard feelings between the two. They met for the first time in 1972 on the Mike Douglas show, and I'll link to a video of this as well. So it's on TV. It's kind of cool. He's seen the moment.

Top comment. Great singer, but what? And they're talking about John Leonard this time probably more accurate yeah probably on the show Leonard said to Douglas I think he is the greatest I really love him it's an honor to be here back him and you could sort of feel he was a bit nervous like it's funny saying Len and post still like, it was like a sending him back to a child, fans of him. The host sent us, Lennon, if you would like to introduce Barry to the stage and Lennon read the AutoQ, I assume was the AutoQ, which said, if you were to give Rock and Roll

another name, you might call it Chuck Berry. So he's just reading the AutoQ, but then he sort of, he clocks what he said, and he nods and he goes, right on. And then, so then he continues to introduce him. But that's funny, that quote is often quoted. Lenin said, if you had another name for Rock and Roll, it would be Chuck Berry. But you're pretty sure it was written. But it looks like he's just reading what was written, but he did nod integrate us and say right. So, have you had another name for greatness?

It would be McDonald's. He's reading out an ad. Really? Yeah, and commanding it. Then Barry came out and they played a couple of berries hits. Memphis, Tennessee, and Johnny Be Good. Not together, they played it. Yeah, they're singing on the same mark.

It's real nice, a's a real nice clip. And, oh yeah, so I'll link in the show and I'll say, I think people who got a watcher, you guys got to watch it. Everything I've said is the reason to watch it, but it's a little bit of cream on the top. Yoko, I know, is playing in the band and there's a couple of seemingly out of nowhere noises she makes that are so good.

It sounds like a sedated cookaburro or something. It's just really great. I really like Yoko and I love how she just, she's playing on some sort of percussion instrument and then just picks up the mic and just makes some sounds. I loved it. It's Chuck Eber and he looks like, that's coming off.

Everyone's just like, that's, that's how it, either we all knew that was gonna happen or we can't have assumed that was gonna happen or whatever, but like, that's it. That's how it goes. Either we all knew that was gonna happen or we can't have assumed that was gonna happen or whatever. But yeah, it's great. Everyone seemed like they were in a great time. That's nice. Anyway, so he got out of prison and got straight back into releasing hit records.

The thing he did best, including Nadine, no particular place to go, which is one of my favorites. And you never can't tell another of my favorites. Great, great tunes. And they were also huge charting songs, but something had changed in recording to friend and country musician Carl Perkins. You know, Carl Perkins?

Yeah, Uncle Carl. Uncle Carl? Well, he went on a three, five on your hand. He's probably most famous for riding blue suede shoes which Elvis covered and made an even bigger hit. That's cool. Reflecting on their British tour together in 1964 Perkins said, never saw a man so have changed. He'd been an easygoing guy before. The kind of guy who jam in dressing rooms, sit up and swap licks and jokes in England.

He was like, licks. He just look at each other. Yeah. I feel in a program. Get a lick each other. Yeah, lick for a lick. That's how you just get sick. Stop lickin' everyone.

Well, this isn't a pre-COVID world. Oh, yeah, no, I've forgotten about that. Yeah. I forgot what it's like to lick friends. Yeah. I miss it. So much. I can't wait to lick you.

It tastes great. Do you think we'll ever be able to do it again? Ugh, we can only dream. Funny thing is, you wouldn't know this by looking at him, but David, he actually tastes like caramel. Mm-hmm. I tell people I'm rainbow, but really, it's caramel. It's caramel.

But he went to a Perkins kept going. He said, it wasn't just jail. It was those years of one night as grinding it out like that can kill a man, but I figured it was mostly jail. I'm guessing the one night is something about just having a gig every night after night, town at town, it's like, good to meet those one night as also take it out of it.

Yeah, probably mostly jail. It's probably, do you know what I reckon it's probably mostly the jail part. I think it was the jail. Good day. Because that was exactly when I saw the difference. Yeah, but also, you know, just as you get older, things change, and maybe stuff was harder at home.

It's probably jail. It's probably the jail part. Watching a bunch of live clips and interviews from him at this time, he always seems fun and happy and generous as an interviewee, so I don't know. But obviously, but it does, but it does sound like people talk about the ego and the bitterness and all that and I just haven't seen it, but maybe I haven't been watching the right clips. Even though there was this one that's meant to be a famous argument between him and Keith Richards and a document she was made and

they're like, you know, really caught a pretty angry moment. I'm like, they're putting that out. You watch it and they're sort of, they look like they're acting like Jerry Sahnfeld, you know, sort of, they, they're planning it. I'm not be wrong. And I'm, I apologize if I, I'll just say you think you're, maybe I've been watching the wrong clips. It's like, you watched a clip that someone says what an ego and you're like, what are you talking about? There's no ego there. I'll show it to you after we record. I'll be curious to see.

Sometimes I fall in love with my subject and I don't see. When you get so close to someone, like I've been reading and watching him for a week, when we did the Charles Manson episode, well, I started to get it. Honestly, the serial killer is a different. In 1972, he released a cover of Dave Bartholomew's novelty song, My Dingling. A song on face value about a little bell toy, but full phallic double on tendras, which made it a little controversial

Reading about this song helped me finally get an old Simpson's reference or a kid's And then Skinner comes out and he says this act is over But anyway this cover top-dead charts in America and remains is only US number one hit. A silly cover of a novelty song. It's so weird. He was just doing it for fun, presumably. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know. Such a bizarre quote, but that's his big hit. Even though, you know, it's not, but like, if you just go off the charts. When you said Chuck Berry, I thought of Johnny Begood and I thought of my dingingling, honestly. Which is a bit shameful. He can play guitar just like a my dingingling. Your dingingling can play guitar?

So Barry continued playing live throughout. He slowed right down in terms of recording. So, Barry continued playing live throughout. He slowed down in terms of recording, not releasing any new material after his 1979 album, but he kept touring through all that time. Someone I don't think I've written about, but he would, to a basically solo and then in each town, a local band would back him. Oh, wow. Normally, they wouldn't talk too much about the set list and stuff, and they'd sort of

just have to watch him for the changes, sort of stuff. That led to pretty inconsistent shows, depending on the band. Yeah, would do, yeah. I think, probably Bruce Springsteen was in one of these bands in his early, like, early days. Wow. I guess when he came to New Jersey. And this is another thing that has seemed, proves to some people that he's a tight-ass, you know, he didn't have to pay a touring band. He said it wasn't necessarily that. He did like just keeping it loose on stage, but he also didn't like touring with bands and their sort of debauchery lifestyles,

drinking and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, that's fair. Couple of that key fritches, but you know, there's two sides of every story. He also really stopped doing interviews. So I think maybe this is where some of that legend of him being a bitter old man came from. He said he stopped doing him because he was sick

of journalists twisting his words. So he's like, I'm just not going to do interviews anymore. If you're just going to write whatever you want anyway. But that just meant that people would, you know, they go, he doesn't do one cause. He's like, I just put everything into the show and then I stop, which makes sense to me. On cause is such a bizarre thing that it's now expected. But you kinda, it feels like the show's in complete without one. But it's so manufactured, it's kinda dumb. And how awkward is it when the crowd

doesn't really want it and they're like, come on, you wanna? I'm cool. We haven't played our big song yet. You sure you don't want us to come back here? It's all right. We've only got a two hour park. We'll just go.

Thank you. Thank you so much. Honestly, we're getting old. You're getting old. Let's just all go to bed. You look like you are having fun. And that's all that matters. Many of the bands in Spide would go on to make

a lot more money than him, which is a pretty brutal thing about all of this. Often, whilst borrowing from his style or straight up ripping him off as I talked about before, feels like Barry would have been well within his rights to be angry or bitter about it, but he didn't seem to be when he was asked about it

by the LA Times and if it got to him that he wasn't making as much money as basically his children of rock were, he said, I keep thinking about the positive side. Sound how better to discuss, sound. Oh my God. We get it. I keep thinking about the positive side. I'd say, look, look how much money I made from writing my songs and singing them, both of which I like to do. I remember the Rolling Stones getting

$50,000 in Miami on the Ed Sullivan show, and I was making $500 a night, and they were playing my song. But I thought, what about the $500 that I was making every night? And 100 nights, I'd have $50,000. What a tight-ass. This ego! Better prick. Oh my god, I hate this guy. I'm like, that's like, I'd, I feel like no one would be thinking that positively.

Watching another band play your song and make a hundred times. You're getting paid 1% of what they're getting paid. Yeah, that's insane. I mean, there's like six of them. Yes. Yes, but those costs are paid so much is it? You know, and then... Canning the tambourine player.

Yeah. Well, one six should go to the tambourine. And they've got a manager and roadies and you know, oh, yeah, they probably flew around with the whole same band all the time. He didn't have these kind of events to worry about. Yeah, 500 bucks actually was, I mean, he's doing very well. I know that these are the kind of questions I'm like, what a bloody legend.

All right, if I kind of was hoping you'd be like, yeah, it's fucking not right. Yeah. And I would be like, you're right. Yeah. It is fucking not right. But he's like, ah, you know, I got to play music. I loved it. I love music.

And that's another thing that came up and people go, and I doesn't like on cause. He doesn't even two with his own band. He's just doing it for the money. Because he, you know, it's all keeping costs down. But I don't, I just don't think it was that. He kept playing, he kept playing shows. And small venues, he did it like a residency for a while and his hometown.

He could be, like if he came to Australia, he'd be playing arenas, you'd think, he could be, like if he came to Australia he'd be playing a reen as you'd think. He could make way more money than he was if he wanted to by playing shows. He was clearly enjoying playing as well. There was one interview when he was mid career, I think it was about 50 and he's like, oh, I wanna do a bit more travel now,

there's places I wanna go, I haven't been Hong Kong yet. There's in the clip where he's got a big ego. A huge ego. Is I can hope I'd play one or two shows a week? And yeah, I've just got other thing. I've got other commitments now. I've got some property and stuff. I just can't listen to it. Oh my God. Oh, it's insufferable.

How about you list more places you haven't been? Yeah. Oh my God. Doys talking list more places you haven't been? Yeah. God, God. Doys talking. That place hasn't been shut out. He also, I mean, maybe one of the things that people seem to think he maybe comes across a bit ungrateful, he would say whenever he got

awards and stuff and people ask, what do they mean to you? He's like, I wasn't really mean anything to me. He did say one of the interviews that he's like, if you don't want to feel really low, you also, you got to try and avoid feeling really high. So I don't, I don't, if people are being real mean to me, it doesn't affect me.

If people have been real nice and it doesn't really affect me, I'm just trying to keep in the middle, you know? It just sounds like a kind of smart philosophy. But in the accolades never stopped for him. You know, like, while he was making the hits, the accolades were selling records and being super influential. And then after he stopped making albums necessarily, although he was still active, the Lifetime Achievement type stuff started rolling in. In 1985 1985 he received a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award. The following year in 1986 he was the first inducting

of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The first. Yeah, so he was the first, I mean, he was in a, the first class. Yes, but he was, I think he was the first in the first class. Wow, I mean, that's, what, they must have thought about that, right? That's not just a coincidence.

And Elvis, I think book ended at the other end of that first class as well. According to the Sunday post, quote, the rock and roll hall of fame panel of experts said of Chuck, while no individual can be said to have invented rock and roll, Chuck Berry comes the closest of any single figure to being the one who put all the essential pieces together. It was his particular genius to craft country in Western guitar licks on the rhythm and blues chassis in his very first single, Maybelline. When introducing Barry into the rock and roll hall of fame, Keith Richards of the Rolling Stone said,

it's very difficult for me to talk about Chuck Barry because I've lifted every lick he ever played. This is the man that started it all. It's a funny that it's like, yeah, I've stolen all this work. That guy, I mean, they became friends and stuff they played together and... Everything he does, I just steal it. And I make more money off it.

And he just, he keeps making it. And I just keep stealing. That's like, I don't want to. I don't want to keep doing this, but he just keeps making it. He's forcing my head. Alright Chuck, twist my arm here. You're bloody tired of us. Alright.

Alright, I'll steal more music from you. I know that is kind of, that's how a lot of creative stuff works. The people are influenced by those who come before them. But it did seem like particularly blatant with Chuck Berry stuff for some reason. Richard's also later recalled a run in he had with Berry. And he told his story a few times. One of those times was on the Jimmy Fallon show where he called him a Tardar. I'll see his one, he leaves out that detail. But he said, we've had

our ups and downs. He once gave me a black eye backstage at his gig. He'd left his guitar in the dressing room. I just picked it and he walks in saying, nobody touches that, bam. That's pretty amazing. Not even a warning, just straight punch to the face. But Betty never picked it up again. Yeah, a few months later, this is still Keith's, a few months later I got this apologetic Keith. I didn't know it was you. I just said to him, look, Chuck, you did the right move. I wouldn't let nobody touch mine either.

Okay, then why do you pick up his Keith? Because everything he has I also have had. Honestly I lift his guitar I lift his songs. Barry's music also lives on through multiple movies. A couple of his songs feature in Georgia Lucas does 1973 film American Graffiti which I've never seen. I'm keen to say it. It's a young Harrison Ford. Yeah that's right. It's like car culture of the 50s. It's an nostalgia film about the 50s made in the 70s. Remember 20 years ago.

Wow. In 1990, run, run, Rudolph could be heard in Home Alone. That's, I think that's one of my favorite Christmas tunes. In 1994, berries you can, you never can tell, is played in the classic scene where we met Therman and John Travolta are doing that twist. Oh yeah! See, love V, you see, love V, you love that, love that, so good. His songs have also featured on many other movies and TV shows, but maybe the most iconic

list to people of my vintage, hundreds of years old. Johnny Be Good is featured towards the end of 1985's back to the future. Another one of our previous reports. In it, Marty McFly travels back to 1955 and plays it at his parents' high school prom where he tells the crowd, this is an oldie but uh, well, it's an oldie where I come from While playing it berries fictional cousin Marvin calls Chuck and says Chuck Chuck. It's Marvin your cousin Marvin Berry You know that new sand you were looking for well listen to this and then he holds up the phone It's your cousin Marvin Berry. I love that kind of exposition. That's great writing

Yeah, but I also and this has been noted a lot of times I love that kind of exposition. That's great writing. Yeah. But I also, and this has been noted a lot of times, it basically suggests that a white man wrote this classic Chuck Berry song that he stole it. But he, I mean, it's a weird loop because I've also obviously, my name is flyingly heard it because Chuck Berry had written it. Yeah. Time, huh? Oh, that's crazy. That'll break your brain

thinking about that. It hurts. And something I didn't realize I always assumed, obviously, Berry must release that song in a few years and one of his early hits. But that year when that movie set, he's just released Maybeline. He's already done that sound, Marvin, all right? Yeah. That new sound you've already released. Yeah you know how you just invented rock and roll? Well he is some rock and roll. He's another guy doing it. Has he ripped you off actually? I think that's going to be a problem for you. I will see this in the future. So I said before he didn't release any albums after his late 1970s album. Well that was a bit of a lie.

Oh you lied a little bit. A little bit of a stupid. A little bit of a stupid. Because after an a 38 year absence on his 90th birthday in 2016, it was an answer he'd be releasing his first album of new material, an album simply titled Chuck. 90 years old. Yeah. Whoa.

I think he said it. Well, this is what he wrote. The album was dedicated to his wife of 68 years, the matter. And I said I couldn't remember a nickname. He called her Toddy. Toddy! They're married for 68 years. Wow.

And Chuck said in a statement, this record is dedicated to my beloved Toddy, my darling. I'm growing old. I've worked on this record for a long time. Now I can hang up my shoes. Toddy is such a good nickname. It's a great nickname. Toddy.

I've listened to the album quite a bit. It's really good. Wow. I think it's like a chunk, because you've got some some maybe some slightly more modern production and stuff. I'm a sucker for a slightly chunkier sand. That synthesizer in there.

Yeah, yeah. And then it's club hit. Hit it, dude. Hit it, dude. Hit it, dude. And then it's cowbell, too. It's very confusing, but it works. And then there's classic Chuck Berry's standing song,

but he plays a bunch of different stuff. I mean, if you listen to all these hits, he released a lot of songs. And he started very quite a bit. And this album's quite a good overview of that, I think. And he's still singing quite well at night. Yeah, that's nice. That's great. Sadly, though, between the announcement of the announcement and the album's release on March 18, 2017, Barry passed away at the age of 90.

As you know, all good things must come to an end, and 90 is obviously a super good innings. Great innings. 68 years married. I'm so glad he got that album out. For the old Matt and he said, I'm going to hang up the boots for the year. Yeah, and he did. The ultimate hang up of the boots. It's pretty amazing. You have, that's beautiful. Thank you. Axel, there's a few that have done similar sort of things, but we had a similar thing where he landed Cohen's last album, where he really knew it was coming and the lyrics reflected that in some ways. So yeah, it's cool to be able to just have a sort of a good buy note with the thing that made you famous and you love doing.

So I was so stoked to read that. After his passing, the rock and roll hall of fame put out a statement saying that Barry quote, created the rock sound. It's a bit more definitive there, isn't it? Chuck Berry is rock and Roll, I said. The undisputed original poet laureate of rock, I think they left that out, but... This is what people always talk about. His songs are stories. They're short stories. They've got a beginning, middle, and end, and that's one of the things. Apart from his rock sound,

he started that, he mastered it, influenced so many others, but so many big fans of his lyrics as well. So the undisputed original poet laureate they said, he influenced every rock and roll artist after him and every guitarist that ever plugged in. Today we celebrate his poetry, his artistry and his massive contributions to 20th century culture. It's fitting that he was the first person inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Rock and Roll as we know it now would not exist without him. Hail Hail Rock and Roll, which is one of his lyrics. Hail Hail Chuck Berry.

Oh, given tingles, reading that. At the time, the Rock community paid their respects as well. Bruce Springsteen wrote on Twitter, Chuck Berry was rock's greatest practitioner, guitarist, and the greatest pure rock and roll writer who ever lived. Rest in peace, Chuck Berry, the genius behind the great sound of rock and roll, tweeted Alice Cooper, and Mick Jagger wrote that all of us in rock have now lost our father, and that his music is engraved inside us forever. He leaves a massive legacy, without in popular music today would be unrecognizable. The artist who have covered his songs give you a good indication of how well

respected he is. This is not at all a complete list, but just a few names. Elvis Presley, Jimmy Hendrix, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, ELO, ACDC, and then you got, Angus Young also did the duck walk. Also took his dad to move. David Bowie, the Kings, and great friends of Lithuanian basketball, the grateful dad. Fantastic. Now finally, this is from Britannica, a bit of a fun fact, I guess. I'll decide that.

Okay. That was the quickest and like, was panicked, but still a bit defensive. I knew I missed it there. I crossed the line and I retracted it. A fact. Let's see if it's fun or not. This is a straight from Britannica. An appropriate tribute to Barry's centrality to rock and roll came when his song Johnny

Be Good was among the pieces of music placed on gold plated copper phonograph record that was attached to the side of the Voyager One space probe and sent hurtling throughout a space in order to give distant or future civilizations a chance to acquaint themselves with the culture of the planet earth in the 20th century. So they put it on to vinyl? Yes. Did they send off a turn table as well? I think it's an old rallying scenario. Oh, they'll get it when they see those grooves. I think if anyone knows, aliens know they get a much richer sound. Oh, that sounds a little deeper. But it wasn't just vinyl. It was gold plate, a copper phonograph record. Now all of a sudden, you know, there's people out there going, one of my plan on this fucking vinyl bullshit for people frizz being in

the wall. Get me some gold plate a copper phonograph. Please, Matt, that is a fun fact. Oh my god. I know, it will apologize. And that is my report on the legend who is Chuck Berry. Well done. Great work there, Matt. Fantastic. I mean, embarrassingly little. Yes, I was the same. Yeah.

I mean, I'm so glad I had the chance. I mean, this was the why I put those three artists up because I really want to learn more about all three of them and many more, but they were just the first three that sort of came to mind. And yeah, so thanks, giving me this opportunity, Jess and Dave, and listeners to spend a week with Chuck.

Wow. I've been playing nothing but him. And I was so paranoid about giving it. I kept singing songs, different songs every time before we started. And then I'm like holding back Oh, because you don't want us to be like why are you singing all these Chuck Berry songs Dave would have said a little Richard of course. Yeah, I would have said why is he all there's a beach boys

I love the Beatles Yeah, they're the kind of things are that so the the Beatles report like all the ones that are sort of, he waved through Beatles was one, Elvis. Back to the future. Yeah, that was maybe that was the big three, but yeah. Well, it's just, I mean, he, he went the whole way through such an important time and he influenced all, I mean, any of the rock bands we've talked about in previous episodes don't exist without him. She's a what a wild. Yeah. Pretty amazing.

Yeah. And he was, I feel like he was so humble about just a cog, just a cog in the middle. I'm just a cog in the machine. Oh my God. But like a gold plated cog. Yes. Definitely.

So I've played a copper code. Oh, yeah. Love that. Well done, Maddie. Yeah. That was a great report. Enjoy that a lot.. Well done, Maddie. Yeah, that was a great report. Enjoyed that a lot. I must admit, I'm on the same page.

I really knew you very little. No, I think I knew Johnny be good and then you're naming other songs. I'm like, oh yeah, oh yeah. A lot of them I first heard from the covers. Like I think I knew, uh, like embarrassing the way I heard some of these songs. I think rock and roll music was featured in a if I'm remembering this right in a Yahoo serious movie called Young Einstein. I'm like, you miss remembering from when I was like three years old or something.

I mean, 300 years old. The Bob Siga covered the Sailor V you never can tell. Yeah. The one the one from the pop. that Bob Seeger covered the Sailor V, you never can tell. I don't know. Yeah. The one from... I know that from Pop Weeks, not the one. Oh yeah.

But then he hear his version, like, I know all these songs. So I've been listening to him and going, oh my God, there's so many. Yeah. I think I kind of, Soren is like, maybe someone who's a bit lame. Right.

So yeah, I had the totally wrong idea in my head. He just is super cool. He's got a skinny mustache, slick hair all the way through his like 50s and 60s, still real grease back hair and the manicured mustache. Yeah, I think I can pick to him. And he will wear like in the 70s wild sort of silky shirts. Great, wild fashion, a lot of it a while. It's a brief two.

Yeah. That would be nice. The breathable fabric. Yeah. That's all I think about his breathable fabric, especially on stage. It's very hot. And I love how he just sort of, he kind of semi-retired. He just sort of just wound it down a bit 30 odd years and just enjoyed his life

This into his There's another thing I'll another video I'll link to whether it's sort of one of those quirky Journalists from England went over to do a story about Chuck Berry It was in the 80s or 90s, I think. And he interviewed his two of his kids. And I'll tell you what, he's like, he's his own lawn. And he just like, like, live in his life, you know? Yeah, live in normal life.

He finds it relaxing and people saying, he went and played the show that he played there in his home town in St. Louis. It looked like a, maybe there's a couple hundred people sort of size his venue. I like, I imagine living there, just bumping into him down the shopping stuff. Yeah, and he's just doing his own shopping.

Yeah, and you puck Berry. And he probably knows your name. Like he's just around. I don't know. That's pretty wild. But also, let's address just one more time before we wrap up. Darlan Ingrid.

Aloha. Oh, wow. Charles. that sucks. It's his name. And then Melody. Aloha Berry. Oh my god, that's good. I say that every morning when I open the fridge.

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Well, they go, well, yeah, good question. They go to patreon.com slash do go on pod. I do not know. And yeah, if anyone is on that level, the system is maybe not always that clear, but when you sign up, there's a welcome message and it has the instructions about how to get the fact-quote-a-question. But if you're listening on it,

when do I know Matt's going to get in contact? I was, I'm hoping that you read that message and you do it yourself. But if you're wondering, feel free to message us on Patreon and I'll help you with the instructions for sure. For sure. I just hope there's no one just sitting at home waiting patiently. I guess it'll call. Yeah, surely any day.

But if you are, check the light person you are. Checking the letter box. Surely he'll write. It's very sweet. So we'll get through, we're trying to get through a few more of these because there's a few people in there now, but we're getting through a few each week. So let's see how many we get through this week. Firstly from Odie Matthews. Odie! Who has given himself the title of CEO of still not knowing what a CEO does but faking

it till I make it. That's what you got to do is a CEO. What do they do? Who knows. And I don't read this. Are you chief executive? The office. Yeah.

What are they though? I think they oversee They've got a vision They have this in a big chair for a bit. Yeah, okay. Got a lot of meetings. I've ever called office Yeah, I'd be able to buy a call. I was gonna tell you that's something I don't know people are spider-to what a weird thing to a spider-to corner whereabouts are one of them corners I want it just two solid walls. Anyway, good on you. I want less, less possible space to hang stuff.

I just want windows. Yeah, I guess it's the view. That's probably what I just said. A lot, so just a lot. I'll be in natural light. I'll imagine. I love that, sure. So, Odie asked a question, I don't read these,

so I read them, and this is what he's written. I'm curious what out of your individual stand-up bits, which is your favorite. I looked you guys up on YouTube when I first started listening and Matt's joke about turning the boat around, still makes me laugh. Oh, it's an old bit. Also, would you guys consider uploading more of your stand-up on different platforms for

those of us who can't come seat in person? Well maybe you already have, and I'm just an idiot. But either way, thanks a whole heck of a lot. Oh, you are not an idiot. I know there's not a heaps of stand-up of any of ours up on line. I think we've all got a few bits. I am this year I was going to record an hour. Um, and obviously that has not happened.

I'm still think that's going to happen next year. But yeah, probably what you found is what you what there is. Yeah. I've sort of put them all in one place now on my YouTube channel at YouTube. I'm saying, that's true. Uh, but yeah, I think it's definitely something I'd be keen to do. The problem, I think what you're asking is just recording one of the shows we do. It's just tricky to know when the, you want the, everything's got to be right for those

sort of things. It's a very live show and a live tape show is very different when you do one for for film and one for the room I think anyway, it's something I've been thinking about a lot but they're also expensive to do and all sorts of other things but yeah there's lots of factors at play there also I don't really gig anymore so that makes it harder to then film the gigs that I don't do you regret not filming more of it while you were doing it more the gigs that I don't do. Do you regret not filming more of it while you were doing it more? Uh, yeah, but also, like, I mean, how many gigs do you do where it's worth filming it? Yeah.

That's not a dig at anything, but like, I'm not gonna film just at a pub to 10 punters, you know? I mean, if you like your material always feels so outdated, you know, look back at the stuff I've got on YouTube is like five or six years old, I think. You're looking to go, oh, yeah, I don't. Well, no. I don't love it. But you know look back at the stuff I've got on YouTube is like five or six years old I think look at me go Oh, yeah, I don't know. I don't love it. Yeah, it's a funny thing isn't it? Yeah, it's the difference. I know I want to capture this while I'm doing it because like I've got a material Your droppers you go along you're like I kind of wish I had that up somewhere

But maybe and there's other bits like I'm glad I don't have that up anywhere. Yeah. Because that's lame now or whatever. Or the reference that I was referring to. No one knows what it is anymore. Yeah. Yeah. I think I, there's a video on YouTube and I reference Joe Hockey. Oh wow.

They, then. It's making Joe. He's still around. He's, isn't he some sort of an ambassador to America? Ambassador to the USA for Australia, but at the time Yeah, high up in our parliament and the government, but yeah, but now people like sorry Who do you have a favorite bit? It's been so long since I've done a gig. I can't even bloody remember this bit still my favorite list bit That's the the the blue and pink rappers. Oh, fuck that was fun actually. Oh, no, that's not the list bit

No, but that was fun, actually. Oh, no, that's not the list bit. No, but that was fun. But I don't remember that bit at all. And I don't think it's recorded. No, there's a bit that's 44 reasons why. 44 fuck, I've already forgotten. It's just this list I found online. And I just read it out and rag on it. And it's just a lot of fun to perform.

Ah, great. It is on YouTube though. I think, like, because I haven't thought about this or I don't know, that is a great bit of yours, killed every time. I saw you do it a lot and it killed every time. At the top of my head, maybe my favorite one, because it's a bit silly and stuff, it's about basically it ends with me Remembering a farmer punching a cow to When I mean that that's sort of the

The subtext is like nostalgia stupid, but I don't know if it but I think people will hopefully laugh either way But finally enough I did that on one of my times I was filming for TV. I did three bits. That was the middle one. And they cut it. That was the one they cut from. I'm like, oh, that's probably my favorite of the three. But I brought it back and worked on it a little bit.

And now it was in my monkey house show from this year, but resting peaks. But anyway, maybe it'll survive again till next year. But be fun to record that one day. I mean, that's on on tape somewhere at the ABC. Yeah, getting content, try and get it. I can get a freedom of information. I have an act. Someone came to my show the next year or the year after I said, we come see a show every year because we're at the taping for that ABC show and we love that joke about the cows. I like that was the bit that in everything make the show. I guess I meant on you though there. Yeah.

What about you Dave? Oh it's so hard. It's like choosing between your children that you haven't seen in a few years. Fuck them all hey. They never ride, they never call. Yeah, he's hard. Yeah, it's funny. It's again, I think the bit that I'm like, that was really fun. For the first time, I only ever did a couple of times. It was just an obscure thing where I referenced a lot of Australian ads,

I hear, telling that I would never sell out. The comedy, people say stand up, it's the most pure art form. You never stand, it's just the person in the audience. And then I just said, I would never sell out. And then I just referenced a lot of Australian ads in my story like I was being sponsored. And I thought that was quite funny. Yeah, that's great.

Yeah, it's just like it's fun to do. Yeah, it was just fun. Because not all bits of fun to do is, I'm like, well, I do this because I'm a little bit. Here we go. Yeah. I know you're like, I didn't want to do this, but you made me. Here we are.

You made me by hating it. Getting up to the list, but I'd be like, well, list is to be fun for me. And it, you know, nine times out of 10 does well. That's a bonus. You and they love it. Wow. Yeah.

Wow. I think, well, I'd normally like the ones that they like more anyway, you know. Yeah, for sure. But there is a gap where it's like starting out, I'm shitting myself about new material. But when that works, great feeling. And then the next time you're like, I know this is going to be go all right.

That's the best part. Yeah. That period before you sort of bit jaded, but I'm just saying these words again in this order. Yeah, I've been before you sick of it. Yeah. Which is probably a good time to drop it really. But, you know, sometimes you need sometimes you need something to make people laugh

in that job. Yeah, unfortunately, it is part of the job. Thank you so much for that question. Odie made me feel a little uncomfortable to be honest, talking about that. So thank you for taking me there and making me feel vulnerable. The next one is a quote which comes from Sophie Shooter. Shooter.

I've always called you Shooter, I think. Sophie Shooter. She said, my name was Robson on here, but I got married last year. Congratulations. Congratulations. So sorry if you've never heard of me before. I've heard of you from the Facebook group, Sophie.

Yeah. Shooter. And the weekly And I've didn't we meet I'm pretty sure we met her in maybe Bristol or somewhere I'm a co-casing for someone else her maiden name as well, so I've known you for a long time We go way back. That's not creepy. I don't know you Quick question. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We've known you a long time. Now invite to the wedding. Yeah. Now, no.

That's awfully rude, isn't it? I mean, you guys didn't get any right to the wedding. Oh, wow. Man, I am so you that bad boy. Oh, wow. Absolutely crushed with my people with Australian ads.

And that was in Bristol. That was a very con crowd. So Sophie has given herself the title, Queen of the A303. Good reference I get definitely. I love that reference. That's real funny. Dave's looking it up.

I know. Yes, you are. I can see your keyboard. A303 is a trunk road in southern England running between basing stoke in Hampshire and Honitan, not saying that right, in Devon via Stonehenge. Oh, wow. Good place. Good sort of dominion to have.

Yeah, that's a queen. That's a queen. Yeah, that's a queen. Nice one. So Sophie's quote, I think it was, is, quote, for West is where we all plan to go someday. It is where you go when you, or I should start this again. Just before you start, I just wanted to clarify that I am the queen of the Monash freeway. Oh, okay. Well, I'm the the the king of the Napan.

Oh, congratulations, good sir. So I am the prince of the dreaded Montyk Eustrate Bridge. Clames the truck once a month. You're the the troll of the Monty Montague Street Bridge. Claims a truck once a month. You're the troll of the Montague Street Bridge. You're master pass under me. You must answer these questions, too. And a truck's never can. You don't talk.

It's a truck. So try and run me down, but they end up destroying themselves and part of the bridge. OK. For West is where we all plan to go someday. It is where you go when the land gives out and the old field pines encroach. It is where you go when you hear that there's gold in them there hills.

It is where you go to grow up with the country. It is where you go to spend your old age. Or it is just where you go. That's from Robert Penn Warren, all the Kingsmen. Oh, that's nice. I've got to make the font bigger on these. They're really straining together. That sounds like beautiful words,

but I think the Petro boys also said it. Go West. Yeah. Where are the cameras, Bri? So if you've got a little note here at the bottom as soon as we are allowed to move again I'm heading west. I just like to note that I only upgraded my patreon To get my shout out before my friend who I won't name that would defeat the point worth every penny We love a spiteful

A spiteful pledge Love that. Thank you Sophie. Thank you Sophie. Wanna here's another quick question from Dan Brunetti with the title. Brunetti's. Lesion lad legume lad. I should know legumes. We've got a Libyan boy leg himume lad. Oh, well that's what he said. Legume lad, Urswile rival to Libyan boy. But definitely Legume lad. Ah, this question I think is especially for you, maybe Dave. Oh no, I listen to a few. So do you listen, you guys listen to British podcasts?

I know Dave listen to you, you listen to any, Jess? That's a question. Do you know what? I don't listen to podcasts that much because I'm really doing something that I can be listening to other people talking the background. I'm exactly. I'm doing a bit of talk to me. I'm twisted.

I like podcasts on road trips, but for the most part I'm listening to music while I do stuff. I don't listen to that many. I've definitely, I have listened to my dad wrote a porn, I've listened to bits and pieces of that. But what do you listen to Dave? Well, I must say I haven't listened in a few months, but going back for years now, I would say my favorite all-time podcast and the one that I listen to the most that got me into podcasting is Answer Me This hosted by Helen and Oli and also Martin the Soundman who are basically for they're very

early adopters of podcasts. We've been going for about 12 years. Wow. And now they only do monthly. God, we'll not be nice. But for a long time they put out every single week and basically people descending questions and they answer them but they're very funny, very witty. Oh great. I love that and I also love the sketch trio Pappies. Oh yeah, you took us toitty. Oh, great. I love that. And I also love the sketch trio, Papis. Oh, yeah, and you took us to see one of the... Yeah, we want to see Tom. Oh, yeah! Tom Perry, one of the...

We got in like a tie, cool tiny little bit. A little bit. A 20-seat venue. Just doing a run-through trial. Yeah, him and the Maxinevarn, the sketch duo, just a trial. What was it about 10 months out from the Edinburgh for the first time? Yeah, well, I'm like, oh, this is how the process do it. Already trialling. So yeah, they have a couple of pods. They put out all on the one feed.

One's called flat chair slammed down, which is just a panel show where Matthew plays the, well, they all pretend to live together and he's like the uptight version person in the household and he pits the other two against each other with guest flatmates. It's like a quiz show. It's really, really fun. Yeah. Yeah, great. And that show was so funny.

Yeah, he was great. Yeah, Tom Perry very, very funny. Ten months out. That was so, I'll show you how that makes out. I love that. And I was so funny. Yeah, it was good. I love touring with you guys.

Two. Anything you want to say? I I love it. I was actually looking at, looking at photos of our trip, six or seven months back now in London. And when we're in Dublin and things like that, a photo came up and I was like, remember how shit that lock was at the air being being Dublin? Yeah, we couldn't figure it out. We have to get Matt to lock the door for us every time. I got a photo of Matt like with the door. I don't know why I took the photo, but I've got you there, Jimmy. And you know, I was like, I felt nostalgic for a lot.

Every time, Matt, help. So good. What's wrong with me? I, yeah, I'm looking through mine. I have a few. I mainly do listen to Australian ones, but when I've listened to on and off for quite a while, the comedians, comedian, pop-cars,

it's too much. Oh, yeah, they love that too, yeah. I first listened to it because Alsted Trombaille Virtual was on, one of the relatively early guests, I think. And a few other Australian comics like Dave Quirk and Cili Perquole are showing him Hickey and stuff. So yeah, I'd jump into that on and off. And I think it's really good.

He's a great comedy head and he is a really good interviewer. And he's great interviewer. And what I really like about the show is that he's actually grown in success in his own stand-up career. And I wonder, is that because he's talking to all these great people as well as working hard on his own act? Like, I wonder if he just worked hard on the act without the podcast, would he have gotten that, you know, because he's, yeah, he's really quite successful now in the, okay, even

I wonder if it is fun to do. Cunning or something. Yeah. Recently, and he did a debrief on the podcast. That was one of my favorite episodes where he just sort of talked about his day on Cunning, sort of what it was like going in backstage and everything, except a sound like, oh, it's so fascinating. So that one, yeah, I really enjoy. Off menu, which we've talked about in the past, which is with Ed Gamble and James A. Castel,

I was listening to that the other night. And they have a like a magic restaurant where their guest comes in and has to, and then anything can be served. I think James A. Castles is like a genie. Now I don't know if he always was, so he can bring whatever you need. And he always asks at some point, pop a nom's or bread, pop a nom's or bread.

Is that a no way? Does it, no, those running jokes is just funny every time, but that's one of those, Eric. It's from one of you. One of my favorite of recurring jokes is on that Papi's flat chair slam down, which is a quiz. They have the quick fire round. Yeah.

And I can't believe it's still funny, but at the end of every episode, like the first four seasons, the jingle was this is the quick rally around. It's really, really quick. And then the whole, nothing the host of the show would be like, no, stop that, stop that. And then just when he thought I had stopped, it would start again. And I loved every, I would, I would have heard it like dozens of times. So funny. So funny. That's great.

The last one, the third one that I listen to, Semi-Regguli, sometimes I'll listen to like six episodes in a row, because it's about half-arabesets. It's jokes with Mark Simmons. And Mark Simmons is like a one-liner comic in England. And he has a guest comic on. And they go through jokes of theirs that they can't get to work.

And they try and just work, oh, that's cool. Yeah, it's just, it's, it's interesting. He's just sort of got this like real low-key general energy kind of guy. Hello. And he's, yeah, it's a,

it's a good listen. And it's, yeah, it's just interesting to hear them, work their way through. When do you listen to podcasts? I depends if I'm, I'll often listen to them in bed. And depending on how much I need to sleep, that's smart or it isn't, because it'll mean I'm start longer.

Otherwise, driving, running, unless I'm trying to run fast and listen to music. Yeah, I just feel like there's not much that I can concentrate on while I'm listening to a podcast. Do you know what I mean? Like I tend to, I can put on music and that can kind of focus me, but I can drown it out a little bit too, But podcasts, I, yeah, long car trips, love them. Apart from that, I do struggle a bit to find time. Right. Yeah, interesting. I think when I got a bit, I'm asleep. Right, that's, yeah, that's a great skill.

Oh, I'm tired all the time. I don't wake up refreshed. Okay. I'm just like, I'm tired now. I'm not. I'm not. As you know, I didn't realize you had that as well. Yeah. Yeah.

I've got a Dennis appointment coming up, which I had to put off because it was quick last week. But there's an option that the sleep doctor I was going to see suggested before we parted ways. He said that trying a mouth piece, I forget what it was, like some sort of plate or something, but it's such a grinding you take off. Oh, like a mouth guard kind of thing. Yeah.

Yeah, okay. So that's the next thing I'm going to try. I've heard a few people have had decent success with that. What's the try? And nothing's really helped particularly so far. So yeah, keep searching. What are we talking about? Oh, yes. British podcast. Dendres, etc. Dendres, that's a good place to listen if you can have an surgery. Yeah, the dentist. Need a distraction for sure. All right, here's a couple of quick quotes.

This one's from Jordan, Nassie or Nase or Nassar. And the title Jordan's given himself is officially delegated, delegate of delegations and resident union rep. Love that. Call the role. And Jordan's quote is, or he writes first. So this is a fact-quote and a question, okay.

Well, I've been let astray with how he described it as a quote earlier. Boom. He said, oh, did he just punch me in the face? I didn't touch it. Did you know that when Henry Ford's first started making cars, he only produced black ones. He's quoted as saying, you can have any color you like as long as it's black. That being said, what would your favorite car color and what would your favorite car color and car be? Also, my last name is pronounced Nassie. I reckon I said that one of those options. Yes, for sure. Well done. My answer to the color of car is anything but black because I drive a black car

right now. And when I bought it, which it was a second-hand car, but it was from a dealership, so I wanted to trade it in. So they'd got it on with the detailing, it's been a wax, it looks so beautiful in the shop. Within two minutes of driving down the road, it's covered in dust, it's dirty, it shows every single mark, and I can never have it clean.

It's just logically you'd think the other way around. What would get dirty in black, wouldn't it it the opposite Like I'm gonna show anything like will you remember black pants or whatever? Yeah, I can hide anything whereas white pants and not man Yeah, if you piss blood in them honestly people know about it. If you shoot yourself in black pants no one has to know No, especially if you should black Which mine is I should be taking on tap only eat olives Calamata. Oh my favorite. I'll shut myself 11 hours ago and no one has picked up one. No, I didn't know Dave

Thank you, whereas I did I also shot myself 11 hours ago and I haven't changed my white pants They're black Wow these are white because you're wearing white shoes and there are driplets Driplets of shit apologies for that I think I've said this before on the show my my dream car is a it's a driplets. Yeah, I have driplets of shit. Apologies for that. I think I've said this before on the show, my dream car is a, it's a 1970s Falcon. I'm open to different models. It'd probably be an XC from, and 1978, XC Falcon.

And the dream color is probably that sort of, the, I think it was the hero color at the time, which is like a I don't know what it's actually cool, but it's like a blue-y green color. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I don't you mean But I'd be happy to go 10 years back to a 68 any of the Falcons were just sick all the three that time and often plenty of the Kingswoods I quite like as well. I'd be in a yellow Volkswagen Beetle. Oh I'd be in a yellow Volkswagen Beetle. Ooh, which era did it? All new. Oh yeah.

You know, as a teen would have said new. Now, give me a classic. Well, I'm going to stick with that classic theme and say, I would love an orange Volkswagen Combi van. Oh, that's a thing they're so cool. Orange or like aqua or the two are I reckon for it? Oh, actually any bright color for color. Yeah, I take any color.

Red is good. If it's done up nicely and also the kind of stresses enough, the engine works. Yes, I would love it. I'm assuming our dream cars engine work. Yeah, I'm assuming it's like quite modern inside for me. Well, they never stop the month, Pimp My Ride. They put in 19 plasma TVs, but left the engine

of the 26 year old car completely. Yeah, why even thought I would put a popcorn machine in I don't need it. I need a new gearbox. I just have windscreen wipers Exhibit please. I need windscreen. I'm exhibit please We could do an off-menu version a car version and be Auto manual auto manual. Auto manual. Auto. Auto for me, please.

Cannot drive manual. I think I prefer manual for some reason. I don't know what I like. A lot of people who drive manual say that. Right, and it's just, we're soon to stop, you don't? No, I don't know. Maybe you just, maybe you don't start. Maybe you just like it.

Yeah, I'm not sure. It just, it just makes it slightly more fun or something. Yeah, that's fair. Slightly more like a video game. It's more to do. Yeah, but then that's not the case when I'm driving into state or something. And because I don't have cruise control.

Yes. So yeah, it's just, you push in the gears like an idiot. Yeah, like a dumb dumb. Well, I mean, that's more cruise controls. Fold, I don't know. It doesn't really affect being a manual does it? Cruise control on the hume. Yes, please.

Oh, big time. And then finally, one last quote from Luke Durham, Durham, curator of mythical beasts. Oh, my goodness. Whoa. Mr. Durham. I think, David and Jess, you're going to enjoy this one. It comes from one of the great minds of the 20th and 21st centuries. Here's to alcohol, the cause of and solution to all of life's problems.

Quite a line. I'm a Simpson. Well done. Great, quite Luke. Thank you very much because we didn't get too many Simpson's references in this week. We did the hold down. We did the... My ding-a-ling. My ding-a-ling.

Okay, we did a few. And I also definitely said something else. Yeah, and I had one more as well. And I had one too before we started recording, so it counts. So Jacob figured it out. Jacob, so then take a further newcomers. He forwarded it to our Simpson's references.

Yeah, I was gonna say that brings us in. We've still got so to our Simpson's references. Yeah, I was going to say that brings us to an episode. We've still got so many shout outs to do. Yeah. We're taking our time with the Patreon section this week. That's all right. Almost like we don't have the bonus episode to record straight after. That's right. We're going straight into an episode of phrasing the book. Almost like it's not quarter to 11 at night. Chopping it the bit to talk about in CNN. Let's get through. Which will be out, what, just in a couple days time. Fantastic. So let's shout out to, if you, what kind of,

what kind of game we play in this week, Boppa? We're naming their children. Ooh, I mean, I was either that or naming their dingalings and that is a much better option from you. So, Aloha. That's the name of their dinghy. Yeah. Hello. So again, to get a shout out, you just have to sign up on the, I believe, DreamBot Cooper level. Is that right? That's right. No, the AskProb level. Oh, the AskProb level. That's right. You've been an associate producer of the

show, but I mean, if you do sign up on the DreamBot Cooper level, you also do get a shout out. Yeah. But I mean, if you do sign up on the dream book, Cooper level, you also do get a shout out. Yeah. And then, yeah, just give us a little game. Normally it takes about a year. So these people have been waiting so patiently. And we do appreciate that. Firstly, if I can kick us off from Kingston in Canada,

it is Mitch Nashim. Mitch. Mitch has two children. Oh. Their names are Sunshine. Oh, I love this. And Bluebell. Oh, two puzzles.

I was wondering if you're gonna do an evil twin. No. No. Hellboy. You're moving. Save it Dave, save it. At Wallboy boy. Oh boy. Wow there to two beautiful sunny Names, sorry yellow cord over there. Oh, it's great to pick on the curtain. There's a blue cord next to it Fantastic I'm very creative. I hope you I mean if you are expecting job job done for you, name it was.

Yeah, because it's it's gender neutral. Sunshine. Yeah. Blue Bell I think I said. A girl or boy. Another option of course is you can go at 1990s most popular names in Australia. Could do. Jess and Matt which Jess and I found out on my match at, what do you call that? Is it a podcast? I was going to say vodka anyway, whatever. Next I would love to thank from Columbus, Ohio, the great state. Ohio, home to the Rock and Roll Hall fame, I believe. Yeah, Cleveland, is that right?

And the United States is Nick Schneider. Oh, Schneider. Oh, Schneider. Schnaider. Schnaider. Schnaider. Thank you so much, Nick Schneider, of course, your children. And I'm gonna give two as well.

Bobo and Dickie Ney. Bobo and Dickie Ney. So Bobo the bear and Dickie Ney, the puppy. Hey, hey, it's Hadoi from the Australian show you've never heard of. Hey, hey, it's Hadoi. But I just think it's a great name. Bobo and Dickie Ney. So Bobo the Bear and Dickie Ney, the Papa Hayes, had it probably. From the Australian show you've never heard of, hey Hayes, had it. But I just think it's a great name, Bobo and Dickie Ney. Bye, bye.

I think it's fun that we spend a big chunk of this episode burning like all-time great artists like The Beatles and The Bitch Boys for ripping off Chuck Berry. When that's we do it, we just do nothing but Simpson's references. But when we credit them. Yeah, exactly. So we're better than them. It's what you're saying. We're better nothing but Simpson's references. But when we credit them. Yeah, exactly. So we're better than them. It's what you're saying. We're better than the Beatles. Yeah.

Yeah. We're big. We're bigger than the Beatles. Yeah. That's specific regard. We're bigger than the Beatles. It's a factor bigger than Jesus. Wow. I was taken out of context. May I also thank some people? Oh, it would be fantastic. I would love to thank from Bothal Oh my gosh in Washington. Oh my gosh. W.A. Washington. Yeah, good. I'm getting at this. I know all 50 states now That's one of the things I've been doing What do you mean I can say I can say I can say they probably already know but do you know the no initials? But you know 50 states. I know 50 states. I'm so proud of you. Thank you That is genuinely sick and what order do you say to the man? Alpha better cool. Oh, that's Bola. That's fucking Bola man. Starting with a

Interesting weird from Bottle in Washington. I would love to thank Jesse Wheeler Oh fantastic, man. Jesse Wheeler, thank you for supporting us, Jesse. Jesse's children are of course called. Oh, Alaska and Alabama. Yeah. But I went in reverse alphabetical age. Nice. I love that though, it's beautiful.

Alaska, Alabama, beautiful names. Yeah, I think they all both really nice names actually. Yeah. Yeah. Alaska is cool. Alabama's all right. Alabama, the Bama. Yeah. Yeah. Alaska's cool. Yeah. Alabama's all right. Alabama.

Bama, the Bama. The Bama. Scar. You love Scar. I do love Scar. So that could be a shortening of it. And I would also love to thank, and I'm very excited to thank this person as well because I know the personally.

I would love to thank from Chatswood in New South Wales, but you don't live in Chatswood anymore. You've moved to Brisbane for work. Charlie Smith. Oh, Charlie Smith. We did. We did it earlier in the episode, bag out the name, Charlie. Well, okay. Being boring. But that is fair.

But we only consider it scum in comparison to a low-ha. So they see how they get there. Exactly right. Charlie will understand where I'm coming from there. Because have a fuck Do you have kids? Called was the first one oh darling Aloha melody and Charles junior like that sucks

Charlie Smith. Thank great name. Yeah rock solid. See you're saying Charlie's got Charlie Jr. Charlie Jr. and... Freezerbird. Freezerbird. Yeah. Where'd they come from? Love it. But goes by Phoebe. Yeah.

I actually really like that. Phoebe. A lot of versatile things. Freezerbird becoming Phoebe, love it. Thank you. And thank you, Charlie. I named after the frozen chooking my fridge. Freezerbird.

Freezerbird. Freezerbrood and chooking your wife. Get it out of there. For company. Okay, that's right, then, fair enough. Dave, do you want to bring it home and thank some people? I would love to thank now from mystery location. Ooh.

I'm going to assume somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle. I can only assume you're right. William Hyatt. William Hyatt. I'd really like it. William Hyatt. Billy Hyatt. Oh, Billy Hyatt music.

What's the whole of, I thought we might have had music shop royalty. Well, of course, Hyatt a chain of hotels. So I think it's hotel royalty. Oh wow. They've named their children novital Crown towers. Oh wow and Hilton. Oh After their competition, I think that's Hilton. Hyatt isn't Hilton. Hyatt a thing. I don't know

I don't know. Good on everyone. I mean thank goodness. They weren't called golden chain. Yeah, or golden showers I mean different reasons still. Yeah, thank goodness. Yeah, God. I thank God every day. Especially if they weren't wet pants. I always am. On your William, hi, thanks so much for supporting the show from We Assume the Bimida Drangle. And finally, I would like to thank from a place where they don't know how to put the locks on their doors properly, but let's not hold it against them from Dublin. It's Megan Harvey. Megan Harvey. Thank you so much for supporting the show.

Megan Harvey, if you want. Have I told this story on the podcast that I was at my last job, was working with a woman who was from Dublin, and I said, I love Dublin. It's one of my favorite cities in the world. And she laughed at me and said, why? I was like, I'm so sorry that I complimented. It's beautiful. I love it. It's very nice. I genuinely love that place. Say humble, love that humility.

No, she was like mocking me for liking her hometown. I was like, oh, you moved to my hometown. Anyway. Can I name these ones? Absolutely. I want to go with Robert and Neil. Okay. Neil and Bob. I reckon we're about to hear an AFL reference. Is this what's up? Well, yeah, obviously one of the old time grads, Gange Records Hall of St. Kielder football

club Robert Harvey, Neil Harvey, legendary Cricketer, also a Victorian. So you know, he's a good person. Fantastic, Megan. Robert and Neil, you got some exciting names there. And then Neil and Bob sort of sounds like, you know, you're Neil and your Bob and along. Also, it kind of sounds like you're given head, but I'm Neil and Bob. I was going to say Neil and Bob, that's what I feel like doing when I listen to Chuck Berry. I'm going for Neil and Bob. Yeah. what I feel like doing when it wasn't a Chuck Berry. I'm gonna call for a Neil and Bob. Yeah, they call it a journalist in New York or somewhere dubbed at the duck walk, but could have easily been called a Neil and Bob. Oh, thank you so much for being Harvey from Dublin.

What a pleasure to have you on the Patreon. Is it easy to have all the people we just thanked? You make our lives great. Yeah, good on you for making us great. Not making us great, making our lives great. Yeah, and it's all like, I, you know, if someone says, hey, just how are you? I say great.

Okay, good point. I don't mean like they make my work good. Okay. I don't even do that. But they make my life good. Not a mean? Oh, I know. What's your mean?

Someone get me out of this. Well, the only other thing we've got left to do is see if there's anyone in to induct into the triptage club. And that's for very special Patreon supporters. They've been supporting us on the shout out level of Patreon for three years straight. And Dave, you normally have a band playing

Justin and we comes up with a little nibbly and a cocktail. I made some cocktails this week. What did you make? I made gin fizz. It was aren't for gin, well gin day. Gin fizz and a breakfast martini. Oh, tell us about the breakfast martini again because you told us in the in our group chat. So it had it had gin. Yes, it had lemon juice I think it had marmalade. Yep, and What else is shaking it? We should get up pancake and then a little slice of toast. So you'd have a bite of the toast Have a sip. It was so nice. Can we have that in the tribute club? Not to play, drive your worker, that just sounds yum. I didn't come up with it.

Shut up, just take the credit. Chuck Berry did. Oh, Chuck Berry be a great name for a cocktail. Yeah, that's good. That's very easy. I'll resume. So make you want a walk. Yeah, makes you want a walk.

Oh, no. It's got Chuck in it, Dave. And that in itself makes you their Chuck. Love it. That's so tight. Yeah. We've got the finest bartender, the vomit into your drink.

We've shaken it up, and we've served it to you. And the very untold. In the vomit, you can go right to our fabulous facilities, Dave. I mean, how apt would it be? I know you book it, I don't I preempt anything But how could it be to have the man himself playing music this week's out? Have you done it? Have you organized it? Have you made it happen? I've gone one better

It's Chuck Berry. Yes opening the great muddy waters Chuck Berry opening well, it's a sort of a co-headline, but Chuck's like, you came before me, you gave me a big break, you go online. Chuck gets it. Yeah, he gets it. He's humble. He's so good.

Oh, wow. That's a great line up. I can't believe I know. Probably the best of all time. Amazing. Oh, so good. Well, I can't wait for that. And there's only one on inductee into the club this week coming from I believe

Minnesota. Let me just go through alphabetically. There's eight M states. Whoa. So that's that's where I get tripped up sometimes. I'm in thinking Minnesota Montana. Yeah Montana is it Michigan. Yeah. Uh, Montana's or is it Michigan? Oh, yeah. Right. M and U S a state is what I'm typing. Here we go.

Ah, the great me was correct. A Minnesota. Well done. Yes. The Twin City State. So, uh, from Minnesota from two harbors, it is Nathan Hanson, welcome in to the Trippditch Club. Welcome!

We love your work, Nathan Hanson, and you're going to love the work of Chuck Berry and Muddy Waters. As is everyone else who's already in the club, once you're in, you are not allowed to leave. I'm a unique guy. There's passouts. It's a real hotel California situation. Thanks so much for joining us, Nathan Hanson, you bloody legend.

And yeah, I guess that brings us into the episode. Yeah, it's been a marathon, it's been a long episode, but I've had a lot of fun here tonight. And I hope it's been long, what are we up to? We are over two hours right now. Oh, how long was the report? About 15 minutes. You really breathed through it, and then we fapped around quite a while. You had three bullet points, and then you could get that to know.

No, it was a long report. Yes, I was. Honestly, I have a good time. Honestly, you've been waiting off your hand this whole time. So how much can you really fit on there? Good, quite a big hand. To be honest, it all began when... A little Simpson's reference.

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