Do Go On - 245 - The Miracle In The Andes

Episode Date: July 1, 2020

In October 1972, a plane carrying a Uruguayan rugby team crashed in the Andes. The story of how some of the passengers survived is one of the most amazing stories of survival and the human spirit! Buy tickets to our live streamed shows on July 18 + 25, August 1st + 8:https://sospresents.com/catalogSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodCheck out our web series: https://www.youtube.com/user/stupidoldchannel Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicVote for the albums to be covered on Listen Now:https://www.eSurveysPro.com/Survey.aspx?id=b43703e6-0295-4c89-9235-c92351a83a48Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571#In_popular_culturehttps://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2016/04/160403-andes-uruguay-rugby-cannibal-plane-crash-canessa-ngbooktalk/https://allthatsinteresting.com/miracle-in-the-andes-uruguayan-flight-571https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8m0cV7NWO8https://www.britannica.com/event/Uruguayan-Air-Force-flight-571

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of To Go On. My name is Dave Warnikey and as always I'm sitting here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart.

Hi Jess. Hi Dave. Hi, Dave. Hello. Oh man, I panicked. Could you tell? Yeah. Both in tone of voice and flashing eyes. Yeah, and the sweats.

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I was wondering what I was going with when I said what we do best, because it's certainly not this podcast. But anyway, we should do it all the same. I think friendship is what we do this. Yes. Well, let's get on with our friendship via this podcast. So the way it works is if you listen to the first time, one of the three of us goes away and really researches a topic.

Dives in, oils up, lathers in information. Normally the topic's been suggested by a listener. then we come back and we tell the other two all about what we learn in the form of a report while the other two sit and sort of just interrupt a bit and try to have a bit of fun and just to have a good time to catch up as friends and that's annoying for some people

but for others they love it some people hate friendship they do anyway this week Jess is the one who's been doing the research she's brought the report back to Dave and I today and she's going to kick off with a question what is the question this week Jess question is what event went on to be referred to as the miracle in the Andes.

Oh my God. I started listening to the audiobook with that exact title last week. It's a miracle in the Andes. Well, you probably know it. Is it the one where the soccer team ate each other? That is. I mean, that's 50% right. It's so close.

Rugby team. That's right. The Uruguayan rugby team. Which is why, when you were telling us a story about a plane crash last night. I felt very tense because we were putting out two plane crash episodes in the space of two days. I'm more comfortable with that because...

Fantastic report, by the topic, by the way. We'll get to that a sec. But I'm comfortable doing back-to-back plane crashes because the world is flying a lot less at the moment. So chances are, some people are still flying, but chances are you won't be on a plan for a while. Yeah. Unless you listen to this in the future when plane travel is normal again.

But for us in the room, I'll forget about this tomorrow and that I won't be on a plane for a while after that next week. You also won't play rugby for a while. That's true. Or eat a friend. So, anyway, a little spoiler for a little later on.

So this is the story. So in October of 1972, the old Christians club rugby union team from Montevideo in Uruguay was scheduled to play. Montevideo. Is that right? I regret bringing this up but I did think

and I might be wrong that it was Montevideo am I wrong? I really regret as soon as I spoke I'm like shut the fuck up Matt anyway can you get it that bit out and just keep going with the very first sentence of the report But now I want to know

what is it Dave? I've said Montevideo is it like rodeo rodeo some people potato that's true and I definitely yeah I saw in a video They said it like Montevideo, but it could have been an American man saying that, so who knows. Luckily, it won't come up much. It won't come up much beyond this.

Okay, great. So it's good to just get past it. But I do regret bringing it up. I just want that on the record. Thank goodness. They were scheduled to play a match against the Old Boys Club, which was an English rugby team in Santiago in Chile. The team charted what? No objections, Matt?

No objections there. But I do love the idea that this, uh, This football teams literally call themselves a boys club. Well, a bit of a boys club. They're the old boys club over here. What is this? What is this bloody? The Australian government,

bloody cabinet meeting room, am I right? It's a boys club. I really got that out nice and sharply. I didn't I. Got them. You absolutely took them down. Took them down. So they charted Uruguayan Air Force twin turboprop Fairchild

FH-227D. I think we all know. I hear that and I think that plane will never crash. And you know what, Dave? A lot of people would think that. It sounds good. Too big to fail. So they charted this plane to fly them over the Andes to Santiago.

And days. And days. It's a small plane. Generally they can carry between 44 and 52 passengers. The pilot was a man named Colonel Julio Cesar Farradas. Again, my life is in his hands. I could not be any more confident in this court. Firstly, he's a colonel.

Colonel. And his name is amazing. And you just hear, ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain, Julio Hazara. I'm a colonel speaking. I'd be like, take me wherever you need to go, Cap. No worries. I'm just going to pull down the shutter on the window and fall asleep here. Wake me when we get there.

Santiago. He was an experienced Air Force pilot who had over 5,000 flying hours. That seemed incredibly impressive. to me. In a documentary I watched, an American Air Force guy was like, you know, in today's standards, that's not that much.

And I'm like, okay, well, this was in 1972 and you're talking quite recently. Maybe things have changed. I mean, many... Five thousand's still a lot, isn't it? Many hours have passed since 1972. Yeah. So I think he's just, you know,

he's just poking holes in the story. Yeah, the Colonel didn't have access to all these hours I've had since then. Yeah. Right? His hours were limited to his lifetime. Yeah, just to that point and before. But we've had, you know,

the next, what, nearly 50. years. Damn right. His co-pilot was Lieutenant Colonel Dante Hector La Guara. Well, this is going to be an episode of real good names. Yes, and I'm probably going to butcher a few of them, but I'm doing my best. There are a few spare seats on the flight, about ten spares. So some of the team members invited friends and family members to come along on the trip.

You'd feel pretty guilty about that, wouldn't you? Well, not at the time. No, no, sorry. At the time, you're like, well, this will be lovely. Jumping ahead from what I've heard. It's a scheduled four-day trip. They're just going Thursday to Monday. Lovely long weekend.

Hey, and one of the guys called his mum, called his sister, said, hey, pack a bag. You're coming to Chile. And they were like, yay, you know, it's a nice time. Should I bring food and stuff? No, you won't need it. We're going to Chile. It's a short flight. So in total, there were 40 passengers and five crew members on board.

Now, the aircraft departed on the 12th of October, 1972, with a stormfront over the it, but a stormfront over the Andes, forced them to stop overnight in Mendoza in Argentina. Mendoza. Mendoza. Early Simpsons reference there. They were set to depart the next day, and while there is a direct flight path from Mendoza,

200 kilometres to the west to Santiago, it's like quite direct, but the high mountains require a plane to fly at a higher altitude, and given that it was a smaller plane and it was full, it was a pretty standard procedure for a smaller plane, to take a longer 600-kilometer 90-minute U-shaped route where they basically fly south, then head west, and then turn north to Santiago.

They do a little U instead of just straight across. Right. But that's pretty standard. There's nothing weird about that. It was just size of the plane. Let's just do it this way. It sounds like the safer option. Yeah.

Yes. So they skip around the highest peaks of the Andes. They go round rather than over, you know? Like that book. Yeah. Can't go over it. Going on a bear hunt. We'll go around it.

Thank you. Why could I not remember going on a bear hunt? What, has it been like 20 years since you've got to watch Play School or something? What a loser. I wasn't watching Play School when I was 10. It's been easily 25 years. Genuinely, this is a thing I remember from Prep, first year of school here. I was chatting to some new friends, and I loved Play School. And one of them said, like, play schools for little kids.

I mean, you're five fucking years old. You are a little kid. It was Play School's for little kids. and I genuinely said, I know, I only watch it for the arts and crafts. That's very good. That's all I watch it for. I loved it. I watched it for John.

Real wag. Fuck, I loved John. John was your favourite? Yeah. Simon was good. Bonita, obviously. Bonita, obviously. Noney, hello.

A big fan of my name's sake, David. Of course. You were named after him or you just have the same name? No, I was named after him. after him. Okay, that doesn't sound real. I was born George, but I demand it to change. Shadow we didn't live through the J. LaGaya era.

What a man. What a man. Yeah. I mean, you're in Star Wars, you're in play school. You're in water rats. What was the big three? You've done it all. Anyway, that's a weird side track there.

Love it. Anyway, so they're set to take off the next day after a stopover in Mendoza. So the weather that morning was still less than desirable after the storm the day before, but conditions were set to improve by the afternoon. So the pilot decided to wait, and the plane eventually departed at 2.18 p.m. on Friday the 13th of October. Oh, which is it?

A perfect day to fly. Evil day. Why is that? What's the history there? I don't know why, aren't you? I imagine this story. Yeah, it's got to be to do with the 13th, right? Yeah, sure.

That's an unlucky number. Why Friday? Yeah, Friday you think great Friday. Oh. Um, actually, it's Friday wasn't always the first day of the weekend. It used to be death day. Right. They should kill people on Fridays.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Uh, killing the business and business is good. And if it was the 13th, then they'd double the amount of people they killed. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Makes sense to me.

Yep. Um, so the pilot, Ferratus had flown across the Andes 29 times previously. He'd done it, he'd done it many times. But by modern standards, that's not many times. Yeah, it's like yawn, whatever. Oh, God. We've all done it. But on this flight, he was training his co-pilot, Laguara,

who was the pilot in command, so he's in charge today. The pilots had plotted a course south to the pass of Planchon, where the aircraft could safely clear the Andes. Approximately an hour after take-off, the pilot notified air traffic controllers that he was flying over the pass, and shortly thereafter he radioed that he had reached Coicho, or Carrico, in Chile, some 110 miles south of Santiago, and that he'd turned north.

The pilot, however, had misjudged the location of the aircraft. Cloud coverage meant they weren't able to visually confirm their location, so while they thought they were over the past, the plane had actually turned north straight into the heart of the Andes. So they've turned right too soon. They haven't passed the Andes. Yeah. Right, so it's supposed to be like a clear bit,

and now they're going to fly into the really tall peaks. Yep. So they just misjudged it. Yeah, by a lot, by quite a bit. Bugger. So as the aircraft started to descend, because they, you know, they were starting to descend for landing,

severe turbulence tossed the aircraft up and down. The rugby players initially joked about the turbulence. One of the players, 19-year-old Roberto Canessa, recalls rugby players like to fool around and play macho. So we were throwing around rugby balls and singing a song, conga, conga, conga, conga.

the plane is dancing conga The next thing Someone looked out the window and said Aren't we flying too close to the mountains Realising his mistake The pilot began to climb Until the plane was nearly vertical And it began to stall and shake

Oh shit Wait only when the rugby player said something No he'd obviously seen it at the same time Yeah So it's as they're starting to Because it's so much cloud coverage They think they're just Over chilly and it's fine

Still the experienced colonel is doing the work. This isn't like the understudy taking the reins for a bit. Yeah, he is. Yeah, he is. Yeah, yeah. So he's the pilot command for this flight because he's learning. And the colonel's like, no, he needs to learn. I could say something.

I could save us all, but. But he'll never learn that way. He'll never forget this way. Obviously, I mean, they must have been working together and both have made this mistake. I don't know. Um, so the pilot was able to bring the aircraft nose over the ridge, but at 3.34 p.m., the lower part of the tail cone, clipped the ridge at, uh, 13,000 feet. Oh, so just clipped it. Just clipped it.

Oh, so like a split second earlier, they realized they might have made it. Oh. But then, yeah. So by clipping the, the ridge, the rear portion of the fuselage, including, including two rows of seats in the rear section of the passenger cabin, the galley, baggage hold, vertical stabiliser and horizontal stabilisers, not sure what that is, they're all gone. They sound important.

They do sound important. So it left this gaping hole in the rear of the fuselage. Three passengers, the navigator and the steward were lost with the tail section. Oh, shit. So five people out the back. And now they're... Instant dead, I imagine. Geez.

I don't know. I really don't know much about this story at all, obviously. because firstly I thought it was a soccer, I always thought it was, I've referred to as a football team, I think I assumed. I think there was another story with a soccer team.

Oh, okay. Maybe I'm confusing too. Yeah. But yeah, I'm wondering now, was that, it seemed bad luck for them, but is it the kind of thing or it's like,

well, it was over quickly for them? Maybe. And the others are as long and drawn out. Anyway, I guess I'll find out. So the next collision severed the right wing and the aircraft continued forward

and upward another 200 metres or 660 feet for a few more seconds when the left wing was torn off. So I got no wings which arguably quite important. So now they're basically like a missile. Yeah. So one of the propellers sliced through the fuselage as the wing it was attached to was severed and two more passengers fell out the open rear of the fuselage. The front portion of the fuselage flew straight through the air before sliding down a steep slope at 350 kilometres an hour. hour, 220 miles per hour, like a high-speed toboggan for about 725 metres before colliding

with a snowbank. So it's come to a very sudden halt. The impact against the snowbank crushed the cockpit and the two pilots inside which killed the Colonel Theratus. Oh, man. The plane fuselage came to arrest on an unnamed glacier. Later it was called Glacier of Tears. I'm not sure of related, but seems appropriate. It's in the remote mountainous border between Chile and Argentina. The aircraft was 80 kilometres or 50 miles east of its planned route. So they're way off course. Oh, right.

That is a fair distance, even in plain years. In plain years. Yeah. Wow. I didn't realize how brutal this was. Even though I did. It's funny. At the start, I said, soccer players eating each other.

In my head, not that full on of a story. But obviously that, the story. he's not going to, it doesn't just jump to that. Yeah. But this is, I didn't remember, it's such a violent crash. I'm thinking they landed and then things got rough. So it started so violently. And it happened pretty suddenly.

And it, I mean, and it also sounds terrible. Like, obviously, that's horrific crash. But also, I think it's like the chances of them even tobogging down and then actually having any stop. Yeah. It's kind of, that is, it is a miracle that they didn't all just start. right? Right.

Yeah. Like they lost the back of the plane, they lost the wings and then they're flying with nothing. For that to go right and do not... That is so very true. To go into a mountain in that area. It's like, oh, that's... I mean, you've got to take the... Totally.

Yeah, the fuselage half full. Which it sadly now was. In one of the docos that I saw, they were sort of talking about that because it's sort of like the pilot must have been aiming for this kind of ridge, like a bit of a gap between two ridges. So the wing was taken off, but if it had just been like a solid, you know, mountain or something,

the whole plane just would have disintegrated. Right. And it all gone in a second. Yeah. So the Kernan's last act, really, even though he kind of got him into that trouble, he did save lives, at least initially. I guess so, yeah.

With his quick thinking. So the Chilean Air Search and Rescue Service called SARS, was notified. within the hour that the flight was missing. A search for the missing plane was launched, but it soon became clear that the last reported location was incorrect. So then they've sort of widening their search. Oh, right.

So they thought they're in a different spot. That's why they've turned earlier, and they've also reported that wrong. Exactly. Oh, man. Yeah. They listened to the radio transmissions and concluded the aircraft had come down

in one of the most remote and inaccessible areas of the Andes. So basically, the pilot had checked in with air traffic control and said, I'm here, I'm turning south, I'm turning west. I'm here, I'm turning west. And then he radioed in three minutes later saying, okay, I'm at this point now and I'm turning north. Whereas that stretch should take 11 minutes, but they apparently did it in three.

So he'd really misjudged. So I think that's how they figured it out by listening to the radio transmissions. They were sort of like, well, that's too close together. Right. You must actually be here. So rescue teams shifted their attention to the Andes, but they were searching for a white plane on a snowy mountain. Oh dear, that's difficult to do. On the second day, 11 aircraft from Argentina, Chile and Uruguay searched for the downed flight.

So the first, it was like the afternoon when the plane crashed, and so they searched until it was dark, and then they started again the next day with 11 planes. So the crash initially killed 12 people, leaving 33 survivors. a number of whom were injured. Gustavo Zabino and Roberto Canessa, who was the 19-year-old engine before, were both second-year medical students and they acted quickly to assess the severity of people's injuries.

Nando Porado had a skull fracture and was presumed dead. His body was moved to outside the fuselage with the other dead bodies, but within a few days he started moving, alerting his fellow survivors that he was in fact alive. Isn't that great? So he's the one that's the book that I was listening to is about. And he talks about how he thinks that, because I've only listened to the first bit, so I'm not going to jump in with all these.

Well, actually, just in the book that he wrote. So I've only heard the first bit, which is about the crash. And he talks about how he had this skull fracture, really, really bad. But he thinks one of the reasons he may have survived is because he was outside. Yep. The freezing, he may have done well for the brain swelling. Yes. Yep.

I saw that in a doco. So a doctor was saying that by serendipity, the hypothermic conditions was actually exactly what his type of brain injury needed. Isn't that amazing? But then he also, I don't know if he said this and he said when he touched his head, he pushed down and he could feel soft and he realized, I'm touching my brain. Yeah. You don't want that. Which is. It was not good.

I would call out a really unpleasant experience. Yeah. But he remained in a coma for three days. But yeah, by chance, probably being out in the cold was what kept him alive. Amazing. Which is incredible. There's quite a few miracles already. Yeah.

And it keeps going. It keeps getting worse and worse. But there's little glimmers of hope sometimes. Don't worry, Matt. I've heard this guy on an audio book. Okay. So what does that tell you? What does that tell you?

So the survivors saw multiple planes flying overhead and tried to get their attention, even attempting to write SOS in lipstick on the top of the fuselage. I mean, desperate times. But they realized that, A, they didn't have enough. lipstick to be seen from the air and that cloud coverage and snow made them invisible to the planes overhead. That would be so frustrating planes flying over you and they can't see you. I would also assume that, you know, so in their minds they're going, the pilots are flying overhead going, oh look at that crash plane down there. Well, no message on it. Let's keep flying.

Oh, that crash plane says SOS, we better do something about it. Surely like the crash plane is enough of a message. Yeah. I mean, that plane looks fine from here. Yeah, where it's wings. Don't worry about it. So meanwhile... I can see that man's brain. From the planes, those searching for the crashed plane had little hope of anyone's chance of survival.

Back on the ground, the surviving passengers removed the broken seats and other debris from the aircraft so they could use a fuselage as a makeshift shelter. During the first night, five more passengers died, including the co-pilot, who was stuck in the cockpit. Oh, that's one of the nastiest bits of the book. They couldn't get it. get him out.

They can't get him out. The dashboard had pushed up against him, but he was stuck. I think he asked at one point for, like, there was a, there's a gun on board and he said, get the gun and kill me. And they didn't? No, they didn't. Which is awful. And there was also, not their decision is awful, just the situation he's awful.

Yeah, there's also a lady pinned under the chairs. Do they talk about that at all? No, I didn't, I didn't read about that. Oh, no, she'd just, she'd paid to go with them. Yes. She was basically an older lady And she was pinned under the chairs And they couldn't get her out

And she just died under there She was She got Somebody dropped out of the flight So there was a spare seat So she paid to come So she could go to her daughter's wedding Yeah

It's so tough It's awful And I also just want to point out That this is an awful And incredibly bleak story And it's the saddest of the four topics I put up to the Patreon And it was a tight race

But this won by one vote And also 30 people who were eligible did not vote. So if you don't like this topic, you have the power to choose. Yeah, that's right. If you're on that patron level, you get to basically dictate what we talk about. Every vote counts. It is an amazing story. Anyway, so the 28 who remained crammed themselves into the broken fuselage in a space about 2.5 by 3 meters.

So a really small space. How many people? 28 people. That just... What was the size of my travel? bedroom, my bungalow. 28 people in there. Yeah, and I was just me in there by myself.

And a bit cramped or? 16. Yeah, it wasn't big even for, like, I could only fit a single bed in there. That's amazing. In COVID regulations, they really should have only three people in there, so. Right, that's a good point. So they used luggage, seats and snow as a wall to close off the open end of the fuselage, sort of to keep some of the cold out.

And one of the survivors named Fito Strouch figured out a way to collect drinking water by getting pieces of sheet metal from under the seats and placing it on the snow, placing snow on it, sorry. And then the sun sort of melted the snow a little bit and they just sort of funneled it into wine bottles. It's amazing that these are the stories where you go, this is what humanity can do in the roughest scenarios. They figured out they're making water. out of snow.

Yeah. They're lucky in some ways I've got some medical students. Yeah. Second year. Yeah. They've got some knowledge. But I always think about how in that situation, how useless I am. I'm so impractical.

I would never think of something like a series of things that trip into wine bottles. I would lie down and wait to die. I'd be like, well, I'm done. I'd be useless. And then people would be like, well, Jess, lying down outside of the snow actually saved your life. Yeah. I'm like, fuck.

Let me go. It's, yeah, it's wild. I think I would be completely useless. This same guy also fashioned sunglasses out of sunvisors from the pilots cabin, also using wire and a bra strap because they'd get snowblind. Oh, I thought it was for fashion. He made some sunnies. They only had like a few pairs, but they shared them around.

Before then, sunglasses didn't exist. Yeah, he invented sunglasses. People don't know that. So they removed seat covers from all the seats, obviously, and they used them for warmth. The captain of the rugby team, a man named Marcelo Perez, naturally assumed at the position of leader, and Nando Perado, who I mentioned was in the coma before for three days,

woke from his coma to learn that his mother had died in the crash and that his 17-year-old sister Susanna Perado was severely injured. He looked after, he's only like 22, 23. Keep that in mind as well, which I did not think about much until I'd basically finish the report. I'm like, these are young men. It's a rugby team. very young. So Nando looked after, he did his best to look after his sister,

but sadly she passed away on their eighth day. Eight days. Night was the hardest time for them as temperatures dropped to minus 30 degrees Celsius, which is minus 22 Fahrenheit. Say again, how cold it is? Minus 30. That is. So last night it was five degrees here and we were pretty cold.

We were bitching about it. So it's 35 degrees colder than that. I say we. It was definitely me bitching. It's unbelievable. Yeah. And they're not dressed in snow gear either, are they? Not at all. They, well, they're dressed for summer.

Yeah, some of them wearing shorts and stuff. It's October, so it's not, like, it's southern, it's like here. It's springtime. And I think Montevideo. Is that spring? Autumn for them. Oh, no, it's southern hemisphere. Yeah, springtime.

I think where they're from is also, it's a pretty arid climate. So they don't. Where is. So where are we? I'm pretty dodgy with the equator. Well, they're just the south of it. Yes.

Yeah. Yes. There you go. No, no, I looked at Dave. Yes. Wait, wait. Yeah. What country did they crash in?

They're in, but they're on the border of Chile and Argentina. Right. Oh, okay. Yes. Coming from Uruguay. Like Argentina's the long one down the west coast of South America. Is that right? Yep.

Yeah, right. Okay. I'm with you. That's more than I knew. I'm really, I've got to get better geography. Maybe I need to download some kind of geography game. Yeah, I've been, I'm working on it with some of that stuff as well. I've been working through the American states, like I was telling you the other week.

And yeah, I think South America, my old man's been doing it. He goes through South American countries alphabetically when he's going to, like, as an exercise to get to sleep. And then he goes through countries and their capital cities. That's great. Yeah. So I'm going to, that's what I'm going to do next. I've done the American States ones.

I've sort of mastered that. No, that's sort of brag. Easy, p easy. So I'm going to move on to South America. Work my way around the globe. Yeah, so it's like it's warm weather and also Uruguay. I think I heard one of them say that like it's maybe 5,000. The altitude is, I don't know.

Like it's, it's beat, it's ocean. They're not, they've never seen snow. Right. And now they're stuck in the mountains. Right. In shorts or like in, yeah, in... I'm surprised that people are able to survive even that long, even if you were going in there healthy, like without injuries.

Yeah, totally. So that's amazing. Like the man with his brain out his head, lasted without food or anything, any attention for two days in negative 30 degrees. Yep. And you said that was Celsius? Yeah.

Negative 30 Celsius, negative 22 Fahrenheit. I can't even comprehend that. I know. I'm such a sook if it's like 10 degrees I'm I'm grumpy. And you guys laugh at me on a plane when you're in tracksuit pants and I'm wearing a three-piece suit. Yeah, you do dress up, but I mean, we're wearing track suit pants. We're wearing comfortable warm clothes. In my bag I have six fur jackets.

Okay, so you can share. Oh. You're going to wear six yourself. It's minus 30. But have you got, have you purposely bought them in a range? of sizes so they go from like tight fitting to very big so you can put them on properly now i've brought them an array of colors so i don't get bored okay as you layer up each each morn yes it's a winter's morn right roger that um so cold though wow see yeah like i was saying most of the team members

had never seen snow before and none had experienced uh none had experience at such high altitude they had no equipment no warm clothing for food they had eight chocolate bars a tin of mussels three small jars of jam, a tin of almonds, a few dates, candies, dried plums and several bottles of wine. Because keep in mind as well, it's a 50-seater plane. It's not a big commercial jet where you could maybe... I'm thinking of Lost where they like really rated the food. Sounds like the worst in-flight menu ever though.

Totally. But yeah, really it feels like foods that a sports team would have. It's all like the kind of food you eat during a game and stuff. isn't it? They love to snack. Yeah. Those little orange slices. Yeah.

A bit of low GI, you know, really get you through the game. There's one of those tubs full of cordial to pour over the coach. And they still do it. Gatorade. Even though they could drink it, but no, out of respect, they pour it on the coach and he's frozen in five minutes. They were on a snow-covered mountain, so there was no, there were no animals or vegetation that they could source for food. So this is all they have. They found a small transistor radio jammed between seats of the aircraft,

and one of the passengers, Roy Harley, improvised a very long antenna using electrical cable from the plane. But a transistor radio isn't like a two-way, so they can maybe hear some messages every now and then, but it's not super helpful. After rescue parties have been searching for the plane for about eight days, it was concluded that the search was hopeless, and that they'd hoped to find the bodies in summer when the snow melted.

It was a few days later Either on the 10th or 11th day That the survivors heard via the radio That the search for them had been called off A few days earlier That's got a dash morale Yeah, big time The search is called off

Here's the latest one from Bon Jovi It's my laugh Everyone's singing along I love this song though But I'm really sad There was an author called Piers Paul Reed And he wrote a book called

A Lime The story of the Andy survivors, which was later adapted into the film, Alive. Oh, yes, I've heard of that. Yeah. Because of the Simpsons? Maybe. No thanks to the plane. Some of us are still alive.

This is a little excerpt from his book about when they found out. He wasn't there, by the way, but just with interviews and stuff. So he says, the others who had clustered around Roy, upon hearing the news, began to sob and pray. All except Nando. who looked calmly up at the mountains which rose to the west. Gustavo Nicolich came out of the aircraft and seeing their faces knew what they'd heard. Nicolich climbed through the hole in the wall of the suitcases and rugby shirts,

crouched at the mouth of the dim tunnel, and looked at the mournful faces which were all turned towards him. Hey boys, he shouted, there's some good news. We just heard on the radio. They've called off the search. Inside the crowded aircraft there was silence As the hopelessness of their predicament enveloped them They wept

Why the hell is that good news? Pius shouted angrily at Nicolich Because it means that we're going to get out of here on our own Oh, that is badass Yeah We don't need those rescue fucks We've got this Oh my God

And then the author writes The courage of this one boy Prevented a flood of total despair Oh that is That's so cool. How amazing is that? See again, I'd be like, we're fucked! You need someone with that.

Yeah. To, yeah, drag you through. Someone with that, yeah, strong will. There's a few pretty amazing characters in this, but that is a very nice... I mean, who knows if it happened exactly like that, but I choose to believe because that's lovely. I'm into it.

So that book's called Alive. Yeah. And it's been turned into a movie. What about a musical? It's alive the musical. We crashed our plane, but we're going to get through it. I love it. I hate musical.

I don't want to live my life in snow. Is it a bon jovie musical? I love it. Yeah, so I don't know if that's inappropriate or what, but I mean, I'm feeling like maybe this whole podcast is today. Inappropriate? I'm inappropriate. Yep. I guess so.

Is it inappropriate? No. It's a fantastic survival tale, which we've done many on this show before. That's true. Yeah. I mean, yes. It is, I mean, yes. Please do go on.

Faced with starvation and death, those still alive had a conversation many of us have probably joked about, but never, ever want to have in real life. And something that we've already hinted at. Should we have an orgy? Should we have an orgy?

I did not see that coming. Is that... Well, it does... Which can happen in an orgy because it's not going on. Oh, Jesus, where that come from? Oh my God. Sorry about that.

Sorry about that. Not even I knew that was about to happen. Doesn't sex raise your body temperature? Damn right. So, how would you know, Dave? We just heard some good news on the radio. What's that? Well, we're fucked so we may as well

I'll have sex and it's my first time. Well, that is good news. Wonderful. No, they agreed that should they die, the others might consume their bodies in order to live. Sexually. Yes.

No? Roberto Canessa, the 19-year-old medical student, wrote this. After just a few days, we were feeling the sensation of our own bodies consuming themselves just to remain alive. Before long, we would become too weak to recover from starvation.

We knew the answer, but it was too terrible to contemplate. we wondered whether we were going mad even to contemplate such a thing had we turned into brutal savages or was this the only sane thing to do truly we were pushing the limit of our fear I don't want to dwell on this a lot because it makes me feel very sick to read about but it is important to mention because it comes up a lot and I knew I'd get a lot of messages if I didn't talk about it but if you want to find out more feel free to look it up yourself you sicko

I'm just going to put on the record that if we if we needed to you can eat me Dave you are the worst one to eat I know obviously kill me and eat me all right you two are just like it's just gristle well enjoy enjoy that gristle also I did have well since writing this had a conversation with some friends the other day about it and one of my friends was like you wouldn't do it I'm like you're right I wouldn't even because I don't eat meat as it is And I'm a fussy eater. So I think it would honestly, I'd just be like, oh, not for me, thanks.

I'll eat some snow. Anyway, so as if things couldn't get any worse, after 17 days stranded, an avalanche struck the fuselage where the survivors were sleeping. Apparently, something like 250,000 avalanches happen in the Andes every year. Like, it's very avalanche-prone. Right. Small, big, whatever. I don't know how particularly big this one was, but it came through in the middle of the night as they were sleeping,

and eight of the survivors were killed. Oh, my God. Eight more gone. It must have been pretty big. Yeah, including their leader, Perez. It's the Al Capitano. Yes. Is he the one who had the, he said, we'll get out of this good news guy?

No, that was another guy. So the death of their team captain, as well as a woman called Liliana Methol, who had nursed all of the internet. injured was really discouraging and disheartening. Also, Lillianna was the only woman who had survived. The fuselage was completely buried in snow and they had to break a hole in the roof to get ventilation

so they didn't suffocate. Nando talks about it in this documentary I was watching and he was sort of saying like, or one of them, another one actually said that he was covered in snow and he felt kind of happy because at least it was over. Right. Because you've got like three minutes under snow and then you'll suffocate. Right.

Maybe not even. So Nando was sort of saying, yeah, a lot of them had kind of resigned to it. Like, well, we're dead. And he was the one who he got like some sort of metal rod or something and like stuck it through the. An inanimate carbon rod. Oh. Rod with a hero again. How does he do it?

Yeah. So he like pierced a hole to let some air and some ventilation. Insane. So outside of the aircraft was this furious blizzard, which forced them to stay cramped in the fuselage for a few days to wait out the weather. With no food and no hope of rescue, they had to come out with a plan. So before the avalanche, a few of the survivors became insistent that their only way of survivor would be to climb over the mountains and search for help. Because of the co-pilot's dying statement that the aircraft had passed a certain point, The group believed that the countryside of Chile was just a few kilometers away to the west.

So they're like, we're not far. They were actually more than 89 kilometres or 55 miles to the east, deep in the Andes. In the first few weeks since the crash, they tried to explore their immediate vicinity, but found that they struggled with altitude sickness, dehydration, snow blindness and malnourishment, as well as below freezing temperatures overnight. They decided that a few people would be able to. go to see if they could find help. So Roberto Canessa, the 19-year-old medical student, was joined by Numat Takati, Antonio Visentin and Nando Perado. And they waited seven days for the temperature to get

slightly warmer before they headed off. They believed Chile was to the west, but blocking their path was this gigantic mountain. So they decided to head east, hoping to be able to U-turn at some point and move west like a longer route same like the plane i guess like we'll go a different we'll go a longer way but maybe a safer way um so on the 15th of november after several hours walking east wait so how long is it a month gone now um yeah it was like 17 days oh was 13th of friday the 13th wasn't it yep so it's been a month now yep just over so after several hours of walking east the group found the largely intact tail section of the aircraft oh containing the galley and it was about 1.6Ks east and downhill of the fuselage.

It's not amazing. It's taken a few hours to walk. 1.6Ks. Yeah. Wow. One mile. Yeah. And I mean it's downhill, so that's fast.

Yeah, that's fast. Wow. Inside and nearby they found luggage containing a box of chocolates, three meat patties, a bottle of rum, cigarettes, extra clothes, comic books, a little bit of medicine, a camera, and a two-way radio. Wow, how exciting would have been to have found that. A camera.

Wow. Comic books. The group decided to camp that night inside the tail section. They built a little fire and stayed up late reading comic books. That would have been a nice little night out for them. Finally some distraction. So they got fire going. Yeah, it seems like they did.

Because, I mean, at least there was enough of the tail section for some sort of coverage. So maybe they were able to. The bit that you said you didn't want to talk about too much. before was that them eating other people yeah so that did happen that did happen and they've started that by now uh yes and they are they taking some of that with them uh not on this trek i don't think maybe so they're not planning and keeping on going they're sort of just trying to see what's out there yeah exactly so they haven't gone too far but yes they are not okay not all of them um uh eight they're this is a hard thing as well they know each other

Yeah. I mean, not that it would be any better if it was strangers, but does feel a bit weird if you know someone. But yeah, so not all of them did, but quite a few of them did. And that's another thing too. And I don't fully understand it myself, but at a higher altitude, your calorie intake needs to be a lot more. Right. So if they're stuck in high altitude and they're not eating anything, they're like dying faster. Right.

So they've got to put something. And that's why they were like, after a couple of days, they were already starting. struggling. Right. So because they've been gone for a month and there's no other food. So they'd all be dead otherwise. There's no animals. There's no vegetation. They just had some dates. Yeah. And they've probably gone through all the dates and the almonds. Yeah. But they've just found some new food. Yeah, a little bit. Not heaps, but, you know, I mean, it would still be really exciting. But they only ate dead people, didn't. They didn't kill anyone. No, they didn't kill anyone. They just went and got the bodies. And so that's something that

they are quite adamant about now. It's not. not cannibalism, but I've forgotten the word that it is for just like eating human. Right. But they didn't kill. So it's cannibalism when you murder someone to eat them. Yeah. You're killed for the purpose of eating. So they didn't do that.

I don't think anyone's holding anything against them for that. No, but I mean, people keep, the main thing that comes up when you Google this story is like cannibal. Right. I mean, that's what I said as well. Yeah. And I don't know if they're all deeply Catholic, can't they? Yes. And so there was a lot of, I cannot stress how much of a conversation there was around it.

And that's why a lot of them refused to because it was a sin. They'd go to hell if they did do that. But then the thing that sort of turned a few of them around was someone likened it to the Eucharist, which is the body of Christ. Right, okay. Yeah, it was definitely not an easy decision that they made. I don't think that sin ever came up. in school for me yeah so that's a sin to eat it's more like lying to your parents or

stealing a dollar from mum's wallet or something covering wives yeah covering wives shall not um milk your friend's donkey i think so yeah i was going to say tax fraud but that is definitely one yeah there's something about yeah i forget what it wouldn't be milking a donkey but it was something about your neighbour's cow or something. It's been a little while. But, yeah, but it never came up. No. So it's interesting that they knew that to be a scene.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a lot of them were like, no, I absolutely won't do it. Yeah, that's interesting. So some didn't, some did. But yeah, so after they found this, they found the tail, they continued east the next morning. And on the second night of the expedition, which was their first night sleeping outside,

they nearly froze to death. So after some debate the next morning, they decided that it would be wiser to return to the tail and remove the aircraft's batteries and bring them back to the fuselage so they might be able to power up the radio and make an SOS call. Like, well, we found some batteries, this is good.

So they go back to the tail only to figure out that the batteries are too heavy for them to carry back to the fuselage. They're like 25 kilos each or something. Right. It's a lot. You could probably press that. Easy.

No, that's not true. I went to the gym today and I heard a lot. But also I couldn't carry that through snow with no food. Couldn't you just push it uphill with your legs? Oh yeah, no, that's true. Yeah, leg press it up. And how do I move, Dave? Someone pushes you.

Someone leg presses you. Okay. It's a chain. It's a leg press chain. Okay. So the whole surviving crew is there together? No, only four of them are doing. Right.

So most people have stayed back at the fuselage. Just these four guys had headed off. And is there any reason why they can't just make a new camp at the tail? It's probably not big. Not as big. Not as big enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So unknown to any of the team members, the aircraft's electrical system used 115 volt batteries, while the battery they'd located, produced 24 volts.

So it was never going to work anyway, but it was a nice idea. So they went back and forth in the freezing cold to try and get the radio to work and to signal for help but to no avail. In this time, two more of the survivors had died, both from gangrene due to their infected wounds. And Numa Takati, who had been. been on that journey to the tail with them, died on the 11th of December, which was day 60. Another month was gone boy. Holy shit.

This is a wild story. Okay. Day 60, he passed away, most likely due to starvation because he'd refused all along to eat any of the human remains. And when he died, he was 25 kilos. Oh, my God. 25 pounds. So he must have been absolutely wasting away because he's expending all the energy going

back and forth to the tail. Yep, and not eating bad things. So tough. Yeah. Wow. It's awful. But, I mean, in his mind, he's going to everlasting paradise now, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he didn't.

That's not a bad little carrot to have. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, any of them surviving at all is incredible. And I haven't read any stories about it being, like, there was no sort of arguing. they seemed to work really well together and, you know, everybody had a good team. Yeah, and before they were heading off on these sort of expeditions and stuff, other people would take on their share of work around the camp so they could save their energy and stuff.

So, I mean, I don't know. I can't imagine it would be a pleasant experience, but it seems like they worked pretty well together. So they decided that a few of the strongest people would hike out to seek rescue. So 60 days after the crash, Nando Perado, Antonio Visentin, who they called Tin Tin, and Roberto Canessa, lacking mountaineering gear of any kind, climbed from the glacier, which was at about 11,000 feet, to the 15,000 foot peak blocking their way to the west. They thought they'd climb this peak to the west and be able to see the green fields of Chile, but all along they had the wrong idea of their location.

So Canessa says, when we got to the top, we realized we were much further from safety than we thought. So we decided to send tin tin back down to the plane to tell them we had headed south and so our food supplies would last longer between the two of us. So they took his spare clothes and food and said, you go back. We were at 15,000 feet and the temperature was 10 below zero. Unknown to the...

This is... This is going to break you, Matt. Unknown to the people on board or to the rescuers, the flight had crashed about 21 kilometres east from Hotel Termus, which was an abandoned resort and hot spring that might have provided limited shelter. A hot spring. They were next to a hot spring and hotel. Because that broke me when I read it. But then in a doco I was watching, a mountaineer said that it was a really brutal trek to the hotel

and that it was on the other side of a really wide river. So chances are they wouldn't have been able to get to it anyway. But if they got there, it had a world famous buffet. No, it's like an abandoned. It's just a building. Yes. It would have been kind of useless for food or whatever, but at least it would have been a bit of shelter.

They could have just crashed slightly, you know, just the luck of where they landed. Yeah. But they didn't know where they were. So even if someone was aware of that hotel existing, you think you're somewhere else to where you are. So who knows? So you say they didn't have any mountaineering gear,

but they also had never seen snow. Yeah. So, like, they would have just been figuring it out as they went. Yeah. Like, it's a pretty specialized kind of skill just to be, I don't, I've got, I'm useless with heights, but I'm guessing that's pretty high up. Yeah, I'm pretty useless as well, but it does seem high, doesn't it? And when it's high in the Andes, it's way higher than anything in Australia.

Oh, absolutely. Way high. And you're at high altitude, which means breathing is really hard. So Nando was sort of talking about it as like, you take five breaths and then take. take one step. Oh. And it's just so slow. And imagine getting to the top of that hill and being like, all right, on the other side of

that, it's going to be green and sunshine. And you get then, you're like, oh, there's more of this everywhere. Yeah. That'd break, that'd break, yeah. I know. So, yeah, so they were running out of food, so Tintin agreed to return to the crash site. The return was entirely downhill and using one of the seats from the aircraft as a makeshift sleigh, I read that he returned to the crash site in one hour.

They'd been hiking for three days, and he just slid back down in an hour. Wow. Like, that's how not very far they'd made it, I guess. The people back at the plane could watch them. They watched them for a few days. Just saw these little dots in the distance, and it was like, that's them. Like when Homer tries to climb the murder horn, and he's just sucking down oxygen, and then it zooms out,

and he's something about 20 metres above us. Yeah. So over the next 10 days, Nando and Roberto trekked about 38 kilometres, 61 miles, hoping to seek help. Each night they slept in a sleeping bag that one of the men had made out of insulation from the rear of the fuselage sewn together with copper wire. And they credited that with keeping them alive. They would like huddle in together and sleep in there and it would just be. keep them, you know, relatively warm. Did you say 30 something kilometers 60 miles?

Oh, no, other way around. 38 miles, 61 kilometers. Oh, sorry, yep. No, thank you. So gradually, there appeared more and more signs of human presence. First, some evidence of camping. And finally, on the ninth day, some cows. So they're like, we're getting close.

We've got to get close. They're not normally up the top of mountains. No. So we must have moved down. Also, do you have a knife? I can kill that. cow with um wow okay that would be jeez i love cows as it is i love big headed animals love them i love their big eyes i love big sturdy animals they're my favorite i love all the bovines

i like how they chew yeah love it love cows love a cow love buffaloes love bison yeah love the highland coos love yaks just a big bovine head the whole time we were in uh in the ukail i thought you were just saying cows funny. When you'd say... Oh, the Highland Cues. I was like, oh, that is cute how he says it. Yeah, which is... I kind of imagine, is that how that started?

No idea, yeah. How do you say? But they got those great fringe and those cool horns. They're just the best-looking things. They're so good. What do you reckon, Dave? They're the best-looking cows there are. Yeah, I think they're got to be right up to it.

Yeah, they're the Clydesdale of the cow world. Oh, Dave, an amazing analogy, yes. They are the Clydesdale of the cow world. I think we can all agree. So one night as they gathered wood to build a fire, one of them saw three men on horseback on the other side of the river. Parado called out to them, but the noise of the river made it impossible to communicate.

Very wide river. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. One of the men across the river saw Parado and Canessa and called back tomorrow. So the next day the man returned, and again, they couldn't understand each other. they couldn't hear each other. So he scribbled a note, the man on the other side of the river, scribbled a note, attached it and a pencil to a rock with some string and threw it across the river.

So Paredo replied, this is the message you wrote. I come from a plane that fell in the mountains. I am Uruguayan. We've been walking for 10 days. I have a wounded friend up there. In the plane, there are still 14 injured people. We have to get out from here quickly and we don't know how. We don't have any food.

We are weak. When are you going to come fetch us? Please, we cannot even walk. Where are we? So this man, his name was Sergio Catalan. And he read the note, gave them the sign that he understood. And then he... Shuckers.

He went, shuckers, bro. Then Nando, in talking about this, got emotional at this point. He said he threw bread and cheese across. Just a bit, like just what he had on him. I would get emotional if you gave me bread and cheese right now. Let alone after nearly three months in the Andes. Oh my God, what a moment. So then...

Sometimes this audio podcast, you think, geez, my mouth was a gape. Yeah. A gog? A gape. I was a gog. My mouth was a gape. So Sergio then rode on horseback westward for 10 hours to bring help.

He rode for 10 hours. Along his journey, he passed another guy on a horse and asked him to collect the men and take them to the nearest town, which was still pretty far away, while he continued on to find help for the rest of the survivors still on the mountain. So the chances of them running into these horse riders was...

Yeah, because they're out in the middle of nowhere. Oh, man. So they were arireros, which is like... They're like, I think from my understanding, like transporting stuff via mule or horse. So they're kind of out in a pretty, yeah, there's no towns around. So the fact that they came across each other is amazing. So I think there was like, what I heard was six or seven like military men on horseback ended up going out and finding Parrado and Canessa and they brought them into the nearest town.

where they were fed and given a bed and allowed to rest. They'd hiked, like I said, about 38Ks, what did we say, 4 38Ks or 68 miles. 38 miles over 10 days. I've read, there's a couple of different numbers that come up with how far they'd hiked, but regardless it was very far. Very far in good conditions. Exactly, yeah. Since the plane crash, Knessa had lost almost half his body weight, about 44 kilos.

He's only a 19-year-old kid. He's now weighing 40-ish kilos. On the afternoon of the 22nd December, 1972, 72 days after the crash, two helicopters carrying search and rescue personnel reached the survivors. I think Nando had to go with them to try and help them find the spot because he's showing them on maps and they're like, I don't think that can be right. That place doesn't exist. The steep terrain only permitted the pilot to touch.

down with a single skid. It was just such a terrible terrain. Due to the altitude and weight limit, the two helicopters were able to only take half of the survivors. Imagine. So four members of the search and rescue team volunteered to stay with the seven survivors remaining on the mountain. So they stayed for one more night.

So the survivors slept for a final night in the fuselage with the search and rescue party. The second flight of helicopters arrived the following morning at daybreak. They carried the remaining survivors to hospitals in Santiago for evaluation. 16 of the 45 passengers were rescued. Amazing.

Oh, that's so great. Isn't that incredible? I can't believe. I assumed it was going to be a week and a half. 72 days. 72 days. That is, that's mind-blowing. Yep.

It's wild. So the survivors were treated at hospital for a variety of conditions, including altitude sickness, dehydration, frostbite, broken bones, scurvy, and malnutrition. I mean, scurvy. Frostbite. Yeah, because, I mean, they're not getting any vitamins, are they? Yeah, they've just got, they've picked up whatever, what do you want? We got it all.

Yeah. We're not going to test you. You've just got the lot. Yeah. We're just going to fix you. Yeah, here's a bit of everything. I'm just going to give you a little saline drip to start. Yep.

And then we'll just see how we go from there. Benicillin, cocaine, banana. What do you want? What do you need? You can have anything. I don't want a milkshake. See, oh, fuck, yeah. So, yeah, 16 of them have.

have survived against all odds. I've written a very dramatic line here because nothing good can happen for these people. I mean, they just got rescued, so it is good. But rumors started to swell that they'd killed members of the party to eat, these rumors of cannibalism. So all of them had had like a, they all confessed to a priest who was like,

I think given the circumstances, you're fine, you're forgiven. You're still going to go to heaven, don't worry. Thank God. that they got like some priests who's really by the book who goes, no, honestly, sorry, but Jesus wouldn't have wanted you to have lived through that even if it was eating. Maybe there's a reason you were on that plane.

Oh, yeah, there would be priests out there like that. But yeah, you like to think a good priest. Yeah. It knows that it's, you know, some rules are there to be bent. And also time and place, priest. Yeah. All right? You think in your head, you monsters, but give them a break.

I think it's, yeah, well, that's great. I mean, what a weight that would have been on some of them. So it would have been such a relief to hear a priest say, nah, you're right? Absolutely. But, yeah, so these rumours started as well, even though they kind of discussed that they would tell their families, their immediate families,

but that they wouldn't really talk about it publicly because of how people would react to it. They didn't want to spoil the film. Yeah, exactly, which they were like, well, this is inevitable. But because all these rumors had started to swirl and people were being accused of cannibalism and everyone was being accused of it. Imagine, it's like, give us a fucking break. Have we not been through enough? People suck.

Like, we see some of them showed the best, just like the human spirit. And then the people at home were just sitting back on the couch going, I wouldn't have done that. Fuck off, idiot. Yeah. You can't judge people who've gone through something like that in any way. No way. So they had to hold a press conference on the 28th December. This is not long after they'd been saved.

Oh, I'm hoping record deal. They recounted the events of the past 72 days. And after explaining their experience and the pact that the group had made, public scrutiny subsided and the families of the deceased were very understanding, which is pretty amazing too that they were like, we get it. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, just as much as you say, you can't judge the survivors, you can't judge the families of those who died. But the glass half full thing would be like, well, it's nicer to her kid, even though they passed, that they were able to help these other people live. But geez, you're going to be a big person to be thinking like that.

Yeah, you'd get there eventually maybe, but that wouldn't be your first thought. No, but at the same time, they would have already assumed everyone died as well. Like no one's thing in 72 days later that there's any survivors. No, absolutely not. Like there was interviews with some of the family members who were like, I knew in my heart they were gone. Because Nando, so he was there with his mother and sister. His other sister is interviewed and she was like, I knew they were gone.

So she's just lost brother, sister, mum, in her head. Yes. So then for her brother to come home, it was huge, you know. And what a name as well, Nando. Fernando. Oh, that makes sense. All right. He's great.

So in a lovely kind of twist that isn't always the case in these kind of awful life-threatening situations, the survivors are all still in contact. And in his book, Roberto Canessa wrote, We try and get together every December 22nd, the day of the rescue. And every year there's a rugby match in. Chile to honour in honour of the one that was cancelled because obviously they didn't turn up for their game. Knowing, they lost their points.

Yeah. The other people just got an easy four points that week. Oh, what? Ridiculous. Ridiculous. So yeah, they have, they all catch up. He says, my children went to school with the nieces and nephews of those that died. And I think that is a very good healing process, much better than going to psychiatrists.

Oh, I reckon you probably should seek some. Do a bit of both. Bit of both is fine. Yeah, a bit of healing together. Great. A bit of healing in a psychiatrist office. Always also very good. But yeah, he said we felt proud that we'd managed to heal by ourselves.

So the story's been told in several books, including the one I mentioned before by Peers Paul Reed alive, the story of the Andy Survivor. It's based on interviews of the survivors and their families and was a critical success. It's still very popular. And it was made into a film in 1993, narrated by John Malkovich and starring Ethan Hawke.

Ethan Hawke plays Nando. Oh, great. I've got to watch that. And Nando Perado served as a technical advisor on the film. Brendan Fraser doesn't happen to appear, does he? Sadly, no. But 11 of the survivors visited the set during the production, which is pretty cute. Can we add Abbas for Nando into our musical?

version? Yes. Thank you. Hey, did that film ever get released on Monta Video? Straight to Monta Video. A couple more books as well. 34 years after the rescue, Nando Parado, published the book Miracle in the Andes,

which is the one that you're listening to the audiobook, isn't it? Yes, it's a good audio. So he does the intro and then an actor reads the rest of it. Gotcha. He does sort of the first chapter, his beautiful accent. He does. He's got a beautiful voice. And he just seems very cool.

And then Roberto Canessa also wrote a book that came out in 2016. So a lot of the, when you Google it now, a lot of the articles and stuff, you'll find it interviews with him about his book. And his book was called I Had to Survive, how a plane crash in the end is inspired my calling to save lives. So in his book, he recalls how the plane crash helped him learn many life lessons about survival and how his time in the mountains helped renew his motivation, to become a doctor.

He's like a pediatric, uh, pediatric something now. Would have been good if I remembered. Hey, I'm impressed by a pediatric. Yeah. Yeah.

What does that mean? That's feet. Kids. Kids. Kids, kids feet. Kids, kids feet, though. And he saves those kids' feet. Last year, Eduardo Strotch wrote,

out of the silence after the crash. This was four decades after the tragedy. A climber discovered his. wallet near the memorialised crash site and returned it to him, a gesture that compelled him to finally break the silence of the mountains. Someone found his wallet. Wow. He sent it back to him and he was like, all right, I'll write a book.

I know he'd already cancel the cards though. I do have a fun fact to end on, if you like. The best thing about it was he was only one clip away from a free coffee. And now, it takes it back at the coffee shop closed 30 years ago. Oh, come on. He's asking the new shop. Do you know who I am? Do you know what I've been through?

Yeah, a little fun fact. It's a heartwarming fact. So in 2007, the Chilean Ariero, Sergio, who was the one who rode for 10 hours to get help for them. He's also a hero, that guy. He was interviewed on Chilean television during which he revealed that he had osteoarthritis in his hip. and Roberto Canessa, who had become a doctor and other survivors,

raised funds to pay for a hip replacement operation. Isn't that nice? I think that is so great. But in my head, you go through that, those 14 people, there should be some sort of world thing where everyone... They never have to work. They just don't have to work. Yep.

They don't have to do anything. What do you want? You've worked hard. You've done a life to work. time's work in 72 days. You can, you choose your life and we'll give you a little, what do you want, a little paddock, we'll give you a. Yeah, is that, is that what you want?

You want, is that what do you want? What do you want? You got it. Do you think you never fly again? I'd never fly again. I don't, I don't know. And after these two episodes, I'm thinking whether I'll fly again. Yeah.

I, yeah, I just, it's the kind of thing I just don't know how I'd react to that. Because I enjoy flying so much now. Mm. It's hard to know if that, I imagine it would take some of the fun. out of it, yeah. Yeah. But maybe you'd have to. I probably would never ski again.

Yeah. So it would be snow that would bother you, not the plane crash part. Although, I mean, the plane crash only lasted a few minutes. You know, the snow issue was 72 days. You'd never sleep in a fuselage in the wilderness again. No. I love the word fuselage, though. How good is it?

That's why I wanted to say it so much. And I enjoyed it every time. I should say, I forgot to mention as well. This has been suggested by quite a lot of people. So a shout out to them as well. from Paulita Silver Esther Stewart, Nathan L, Tate Evans,

Rochelle Griffith, Siba, Marcio, Antonio Daley and Carol Duval have all suggested this topic. Thank you so much. There was a point early on

where I'm like, well, I'm not feeling very good. But in the end, what an amazing triumphant story. It's got to be one of the great survival stories. It's amazing. It was saying that like, you know, a few people on there. And like we said, when the avalanche hit and stuff,

a few were sort of resigned to just like let me die. And I don't blame them at all. But others were sort of saying some people like Nando and Roberto, who were really like driven. And Nando just wanted to get home to his dad. Yes, he says that a lot in the book. And that's the bit that he reads out is that when his sister died, he nearly gave up.

But then he heard a voice saying, No, you will survive. Wow. And he made a promise, I will see my dad again. And that he just kept thinking about it, isn't that? He was in a coma for three days. Yeah. At no point did anybody perform surgery on his head, and he was the one who hiked out.

Like, that's amazing. I, yes. Same guy. So his brain's still throbbing at his head. Well, you know, the book he talks about, after a couple of weeks, he's like, the bones started to form together again. No. But not properly.

Not properly. Yeah, but sort of just like slow-moe Wolverine. He doesn't have a weird head now from the doco. The doco is also very bad quality. Right. I couldn't see you that well. I've got no idea. Like, when did you go to hospital and you get back and they like have to, I don't know.

I guess. Yeah, that's amazing. And then other people, I mean, it's the hardest bit to listen to. And that's sort of why I stopped for a little bit. This is last week is there's guys with like intestines hanging out. Yes. Yeah, of course. You know what?

that guy was one of the biggest troopers of all. He just was like, yep, clearing out chairs left and right. His fucking guts are hanging. Yeah, amazing. I'm the kind of guy. He had like a big shrapnel in him and he pulled it out and some guts came out and he just went to help. I'm the kind of guy. I'm like, oh, I've got a paper can't.

I don't know about this. I'll never touch paper again. Yeah, I'm done. I wonder, yeah, because they're also had such strong religious beliefs. Yeah, I imagine it's, it's, it's, Probably the kind of thing that would only strengthen that, right? I mean, it would be a handy thing to get you through it, potentially, belief in a higher power and that sort of stuff.

And then you get through it, you're like, well, that confirms that God is real and God got me through this. Or maybe other people would be like, well, God would not have put anyone through this. Exactly. Why would you do that? Why would you do that to anyone? I know. It's a really tough one. I imagine, yeah, you'd probably go one of the two.

or somewhere in between. Ah. So I'm giving you three potential options. Yeah, take your pick, listeners. Fantastic. What a report. Fantastic story. Yeah, crazy.

Inspiring and also horrifying. So, so amazing. Thank you to the patrons who voted on that topic as well. It was a very tight race for a few days. There was another topic that was clearly out front and then the race got a lot tighter. and then this one took over by one vote. To win by one with 30 people not voting.

I know. Wow. Pretty amazing, huh? I mean, not to say, I mean, if you don't want to vote, that's fine. Oh, yes, you don't have to. You absolutely don't have to. But I think that made the right choice because that is a tale for the ages. Do you want to hear a little bit of the history of Why Friday the 13th is?

I don't think it's interesting. Well, I haven't read it yet. Okay. Well, yeah, go on then. This is from a little website called Wikipedia. Oh, yeah. I probably should have found one. They're going on a fair bit, but it says it's unclear, basically.

But according to folklore historian, Donald Dossie, the unlucky nature of the number 13 originated with a Norse myth about 12 gods having a dinner party in Valhalla. The trickster god Loki, who was not invited, arrived as the 13th guest and arranged for to shoot Balda with a mistletoe-tipped arrow. This is from Dossi. Balder died and the whole earth got dark.

The whole earth mourned. It was a bad, unlucky day. This major event in North's mythology caused the number 13 to be considered unlucky. Right. Because of Loki. Yeah. There you go. Yeah, sorry, I should have checked if that was interesting first, but it was hard.

It's hard to find a time to just stop and read an article while Jess you were telling such a fascinating story. So I thought I wouldn't do that, but next time I will. Yeah, just go for it. I'll just check out for a bit Hey that brings us to everyone's favourite section of the show Feel free to edit out that Friday the 13th section Um Wailing it down

Okay So this is the fact quote or question section It's got a little jingle It goes fact quote or question Ding Fuck Dave you nearly forgot Nah he always remembers the ding Yeah

I just wanted to worry Matt a little bit The way this works is if you support us at patreon.com slash to go on pod on the Sydney-Shaunberg Deluxe Memorial Edition level, you get to offer us a factor quote or a question. You also get to vote in topics like Jess's topic today was voted on by the Sydney Shineberg patrons. That's right.

You also get three bonus episodes a month. You get them on an even lower level as well. I believe DB Cooper, Dreamboat Cooper level. I believe so. But I mean, it's all written out pretty clearly on Patreon. dot com slash dig on pod so the fact quote a question section we go through a few each week this first one comes from elliot crosbie mcculler or mccullock

and elliott's offered us a fact he's also given himself the title of junior assistant to the live show iPad that's very handy to have maybe once he did he hand us an iPad or something potentially but maybe it's just an aspirational title We do often read from an iPad at Live show. There are two iPads too. Sorry to break. So that's why we need someone's an extra pair of hands.

That's right. One day maybe I'll even get one of these tablets that you kids are all playing with. And then we'll have three to choose from. Instead of precariously balancing a laptop on your knees. So this one is a fact from Elliot. Elliot's fact goes like this. The year 2000 is not the last. we'll see for date rollover bugs.

There's another due in 2038, when the Unix epoch timestamp, a number counting seconds from 0101, 1970, used to keep track of the date and time in Unix-based systems. So that's 1st of January, 1970. We'll get too large to be stored in 32-bit unsigned integers. This is a fun fact. I shouldn't say, Jess can tell you. I was like a second Y2K.

Yeah. At this point, any vulnerable system which has not been upgraded will suddenly think it's the 70s again, which is cool because we'll be due for another revival of flared trousers. But don't worry, the only sort of systems vulnerable will be older physical devices, such as those in factories, medical, and the military. Few. So like sort of nuke launches or... I mean, I don't want to go.

worry too much about it because Y2K was a bit of a flop. Well, wasn't it a flop because they, I mean, I did the reporter on it, I can't really remember it. But I feel like that was just because the scientists were aware of it and they did a bunch of work. Leading up to it. Yeah. So they'll probably do it again if we're already aware now.

Yeah. Well, we've got people like Elliot on the case. Yeah, thank God. Thank God. Thank you. Thank you, Elliot, for the work you're doing. We assume you're working around the clock fixing that. He's the kind of guy I'd trust with the iPad as well. Yeah, I would too. even more so now 100% I reckon I'd come back

with like a spoiler on it or something he'd update that iPad real good an iPad with a spoiler thank you so much for that fact Elliot the next one comes from Anna Cox and Anna's given herself the title of Chief Chuckler

of the podcast move over Jess I'm a little offended Anna but I'm assuming if you've given yourself that title you have an amazing chuckle and Anna's asked us a question. Hello, Matt, Jess and Dave.

My housemates and I have been taking it in turn to plan weekly house activities for each other during lockdown. That's nice. Trying to keep those positive vibes high. This is sort of a kill-two-birds with one stone question because I'm keen to hear your answers, but I also need new ideas. It would be fair to say that this started as a fun house thing and has become competitive and very extra, which I'm not at all opposed to. If you had to plan the perfect lockdown day or lockdown activity for the other two, what would it involve? If you don't get to this before the end of lockdown, then what a fun throwback. Thanks guys.

Well, for us, lockdown's making a real comeback here in Melbourne. Victoria's been naughty. So we're not allowed to do anything anymore. What would I do for you guys? I reckon we'd have a pie-making sesh for day? Oh my God, you can't tease that. Is this real? Can we do it? Yeah, I can make a pie. I can make an apple pie. Oh, I'll be in for that too.

Yeah, I can do that. A bit of puff pastry. Oh, puff me up. For Matt, we'd have homebrew. Oh, wow. Oh, that'd be fun. And then we'd have homebrew and pie. Fantastic. So it's just a real quick turnaround homebrew. I love it.

Yes. This beer tastes a bit, a little bit young. And then we'd watch a Brendan Fraserman. movie. Oh, what a day. There you go. That's my day. Top that, dickheads. No, well, I think I'm going to, I'll be involved in the pie thing as well.

Dave, what do we do for Jess? Don't jump on my idea. Get your own. Oh, we're going to do three weeks and a row. Okay. Well, all right. For Dave, I want to make it custard and blueberry pie making day. Still pies, yeah.

Yeah, thanks. Appreciate it. There's what I got. But also a savory pie. It's your personality. Wait, no, last week you said, I was recently. Chocolate ice cream. Yeah.

It's chocolate ice cream. Oh, I love chocolate ice cream in the moment. He's going to do a chocolate ice cream. Loving it. So we're going to make some homemade ice cream, and I'm going to make it into an affigato or whatever Jess said recently. Oh, God, yes. You know of it.

Yeah. Was that we talked about that last night on the Patreon bonus episode? Coffee shop with ice cream. And for you, Jess, of course, I know your interests very well. Just trying to think what kind of hashtags you've created on your social media. I think what we'd do is we'd just lurking. Yeah, I haven't done that for a while Because I can't lurk with anyone

Damn it, damn the social distancing Rewining a good hashtag It's got to come back I think what we talked about Last Night Off Pod Was that we've got a shared love For house hunting TV shows

House Hunters International Get me a box set of that And just leave me alone What I would Somehow I was thinking I'd try and make it interactive Somehow Maybe by

I'd give you three places to choose from and then you can pick your own home somehow. Love that. Maybe I'd convert three of our lockdown rooms into different apartments and then you can pick one and then you get to stay in it for the night. Oh my God, Matt. This sounds amazing.

Yeah, and Dave, you'd do a pie. A pie and Poirot. Oh, yes, we finished out with a Poirot. All right, Dave, your turn. All right, well, I'd give Matt that makeover. We've always talked about giving him. Yeah, I'm overdue. So we do a bit of queer eye, makeover style for Matt.

Yep. I kind of love that show so much. For Jess, I'd organise a plant growing competition. This is actually, it's longer than a day, but we start on the day. Everyone gets some seeds or a bulb. And a small patch of dirt in a... What do you call these vessels? A pot.

What do you call this vessel here, boy? And then you can choose any fertilizer you like. And then over the next five weeks, whoever's grows the most wins. So it's a bit of a competition. And then at the end of the day, we watch, for me, my four favorite episodes of The Simpsons ever. Brilliant, yes. Are they still the same ones that you aired at your, was it your 25th birthday? Yes, they'd be similar, but I would, on a technicality.

I actually played four then, but for the fifth episode, I'd play, who shot Mr Burns part one and two as one. Yep. What are the other three for new listeners, Lemon of Troy? Cape Fear, Lemon of Troy. Homer versus the 18th Amendment, the Beer Barron episode. Ah. And March versus the Monorail.

Right, classics. Great, good episode. Plus, but I love... What tanked Scorpio's episode? Oh, you only moved twice. Yeah, that's a good one. That's great. That'd be up there for me.

I feel like I played that as well. Yeah, I feel like you might have. Maybe I played five. Maybe you didn't have Lemon of Troy after all. Maybe I do love it. It's so good. Yeah, that's what they're, I think they're my two favorites. But I love Who Shot Mr Burns Part 1 and 2 because it shows off the entire town.

Right. They're all in good form. Yeah, okay. Love that. So you get a bit of everyone. That's nice. Thank you so much for that question. Great question.

I don't know if, yeah. That probably didn't help. Let us know if that inspires anything in you. Basically. Make a pie. She'll end up making a pie. Yeah. The next one comes from Zach Dobran, who's given himself the title of Remaining the Day One reference aficionado of the podcast.

Day one. Oh, Day One. What was that about again? No one knows. I just said Day one. What episode was that? Day one. But it was funny because I said, I admitted later that episode that I wasn't sure what my brain, I just had a brain fade.

And then, but we had messages of people saying, oh, I understood what you meant. And they had different people had different interpretations of it, which is pretty fun. I can't even remember what episode that was. It's like an art piece. Day one. Anyway, Zach has also got a question. Have you all ever considered doing reports about yourself, stupid old studios or the pod itself, perhaps as a Patreon bonus?

For those who have been listening to you for quite some time, I'm sure may find some of these topics very interesting. I think a few people have asked, and we always assumed too self-indulgent even for us. us. Isn't that kind of the... Yeah, I think we'd find it just a bit too... A bit too inside the podcast studio. I'd just find it boring. Yeah.

And, yeah, I think... We've told the origin story of the podcast on the podcast a few times. Yeah. And I think, like, in Q&A, bonus episodes we've done... We've answered it a little bit as well of, like, how we met. Yeah, and our lives aren't that interesting. I don't have much... I don't have much...

to add. I'm saving it for a book and I'm not giving this shit away for free. Okay. I'm also, I'm pretty sure I've told the origin story of Superdoll Studios on interviews or something. They'd be, you'd be out of Google it. I'm sure I've talked about it somewhere.

But I mean, we have like 5,000 topics in the hat. And they're all more interesting than us. Way more interesting than us. But yeah, I mean, if like enough people want it, I do feel like that's,

Zach, as nice as it is that you're interested. I feel like you're interested. might be in the minority of people who would really... It'd be short. Like, there's not that much to tell, is there? Well, I've lived for quite a few centuries. That's right.

You could talk about my time, you know, when I was sitting next to Lincoln in that booth. Yeah, and the Ford Theatre. Yeah, and you just went to the toilet at the right time. Yeah, I ducked to pick up a penny. Thank goodness. We did once do an episode where we actually took a biography of someone else pretended it was us.

You had to guess who it was. Yeah, that was sort of our way of sort of doing that as an episode whilst actually telling interesting people's life stories. And we did do an episode on Nick Mason as well. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. He is also, again, I'd say, more interesting. Yes, for sure.

Just being a tram driver instantly. Cool job. Thank you so much for the question though, Zach. I mean, I'm happy to be proved wrong. Also very happy to talk about myself. If you ever bump into me somewhere, I'll answer all your questions. Well, not all your questions. I won't.

I'm notoriously cagey. Yeah, I'm actually pretty cage as well. Yeah, I'm for private. I'm secretive. You're a spy. Yeah. I'm a spy. Finally, the last one this week comes from Mariam Chichajji.

Sorry about that. Mariam Chichaj. Oh my goodness. Dave, just in case, do you mind having a... That's a great looking name. Mariam. Chick-Radzie. Chichradsie. Fantastic name.

You should have just said exactly the same. I don't think I could. Mariam's given herself a title of the president of your only Georgian listeners club. Probably. Do we have any other Georgian listeners? Would that be Georgia in America or the country of Georgia? Oh, okay. Yeah, that's more obscure, isn't it? Yeah. Mariam has asked the question. Hale, my question is, can you think of any backhanded compliments you've gotten?

As a receiver of many myself, I'd like to know that I'm not the only one. Thanks. Oh, man, yeah, I can't think of any, but I'm sure I get them all the time. Funny for a girl. That's a classic. Yeah, heaps all the time. I don't remember them and I think that's very much on purpose. I get I'm smarter than I seem sometimes. Oh, okay. Oh, I got one on YouTube recently.

God, Dave's not as weird looking as Jess and Matt make him sound. Do we make you sound weird looking? I constantly say he's weird looking. I thought you constantly say he's got beautiful eyes. I just say he's pocket-sized. Thank you. Yeah, but someone commented to that. It made me think,

Do they say that about me? Yes, Dave. I say that to your face. When do you really? I don't think she... Do you ever listen to me? No. Okay.

Well, that's part of the problem, isn't it? I listen to you all the time. I'm always listening. And would you agree that she's funny for a girl? Yeah. I'd say she's funny for a human. Wow. Whoa.

I'd go as far to say for a mammal. Yes, a mammal. Yeah, so that was a backhandiccomer. Because it is like, he's not as weird as you're like, oh, I can. Yeah. You're saying the bar was low. Yeah.

I've just gotten over that. Gee, thanks. Yeah, it's wild that people are still doing women, funniness and women. That will never end. Let's hope it does. It's exhausting. That's a fucking nuts idea to me.

Yeah. I'd say most of the best comedians in Australia are women. or at least a big chunk. Yeah, for sure. You know, all the, yeah, it's a real bizarre one. And I just think it's normally people who don't see comedy. Oh, yeah. I don't find women funny.

It's like, well, okay, when was the last time you saw a comedy show of any type? Oh, yeah, you know, trailer. It's the best because it's often women saying, I just don't find women that funny. And it's like, what do you meet? Like, you and your friends sit around and do what? talk very seriously. Fuck that.

Yeah, I'd imagine... You've never laughed with a friend? I would assume that most people laugh the most when they're just mucking around with friends. Totally. That's when I would laugh the most. Yeah. Talking to you guys, not on the pot, I'd keep it pretty serious on here.

Obviously, we don't laugh here. Dave, shut up. Sorry, I don't know what that sound was that came out of my mouth. I've never... Coffing. I've never done that in front of you before. Well, let's... Thank you so much for that question, Mary.

Yeah, that's the one that I think I'll probably get the most. They're all very similar ones, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah. You got, you're better than what I thought you would be. Yeah. For some reason. At least, I mean, at least yours for a woman is not even your fault.

They're saying for me, smarter than I make myself seem, right? So it feels like that's really at me. What they're doing to you is actually just. just taken out all women. So that's not as much on you. It's all positive for you. You're funny for a woman because all women aren't funny. But their mind's all about me.

I'd much prefer it smart for a man. I'd say thank you so much. You're pretty smart for a man. Imagine. God, you're pretty smart for a man. Look at this one. We can walk and chew gum. Laudida.

Yeah. Back-hand compliments are all a bit weird. Yeah, no. They're always like, oh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Funny for a woman. Jess, I'd say, probably the funniest person on this podcast.

Nah. Top two. Yeah, top two for sure. Yeah, for sure. And I appreciate you letting me be on here. The other thing we like to do on this podcast is thank you for you. Jesse, you normally come up with a bit of a game for this. Yes, I'm struggling a little bit of this one because it was such a lot of,

an incredibly bleak topic that I don't want to make anybody, you know, I don't want to assign someone a tragic way to die, for example. So, okay, maybe it's like what food they have. To survive? Yeah. What do they find? Yeah. Like in the cabin or whatever. In the tail of the plane.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, should I kick her off? Please do. Yeah, go for it. Is that still bleak?

Because they have still been in a plane crash then, haven't they? Oh, what if this is like... Deserted island kind of. A deserted island, and they find a plane that died of natural causes, old age. Yeah, no people were on board. No people were on board. The pilot had also ejected. They got a new plane.

But it was a fully stocked plane. Yes. So what food was on the plane? Great, okay. That makes sense to me for sure. And this is episode 245, what I'd be? correct in saying that? You are correct. Oh, fantastic. Well, I'd love to thank straight off the bat from Chico in California, United States. Sierra and Juan

Uriate. Fantastic, Sierra and Juan. Thank you so much for your support from Chico. And they found kidney beans. Oh, my favorite bean. They're good. I love kidney beans. Butter bean. Oh, you're right. Well, that's the lizard man. What are you going to remember about the lizard man? I love butter beans.

I like black beans. I like pinto beans. Pinto beans. Fuck, I think I love beans. I love beans. Navy beans, the ones in baked beans. Yankee beans. Yankee beans.

I love my Yankee beans. Does that mean anything of you guys? No, absolutely not. Elaine was dating an artist, I think, on Seinfeld. And he got sick, so she had to say. up feeding. He was a bit older. She was about to break up with him, but he got sick. So she stayed with him and she was feeding him.

Which character? Elaine. Oh. Yankee beans. And he was seeing that? No, she's saying that to him as like, he can't move and she's like spoon feeding him beans. I don't know what it means.

I'm guessing that's like a jingle from America or something. Yeah, to our friends of California, Sierra and Juan, they might know it. Yeah. Hope you like beans. But I think, I think that I think Yankee beans and Navy beans are the same. on a beans. Gotcha. I'm not just saying something weird out of nowhere.

I'm not crazy. Yeah. You make a lot of sense when you think about it. I put kidney beans in most... I'd eat kidney beans in every day. I love kidney beans so much. Yeah, okay. They're one of my main protein sources, I reckon.

I'd also love to thank from North Hollywood, La La Land. Sorry, just thinking about it. As someone requested, we do an hour of talking about ourselves. And then they'll get stuff like, I eat beans every hour. Yeah, I eat beans every day. I mean, there's got to be my favourite. I eat avocado, I'd reckon, most days. Just a little fun fact about it.

Really? Yep. You are doing well. I mean, we're sitting in my palace right now. That is true. No, they're usually like two for something, so I get a couple and they last me. I do like avocado. I've had avocado in a while, but I love avocado and vegamite so much.

Yeah, it's good shit. So from North Hollywood, La La Land in California, back to back, California, in the United States, Kayla, Drescia. Oh, could any relation? Could it be? I'm assuming yes. Kayla can't respond right now, so I'm going to say yes. She's from Hollywood.

I mean, if she was from Flushing Queens, that would be... But surely Fran has since moved to La La Land. Tinseltown, for sure. Wow. Wow. Well, I think Kayla may have found some Grandma Yeta, aka Feta. Oh. Ray Charles's girlfriend.

Talk about that every now, then it is. That is one of the weirdest TV facts. That took me a while to get to. I thought you meant the cheese. I don't know if I'd be that thrilled with just finding chunks of feta. I absolutely would. I don't mind fetter, but I mean like just be it by itself. No, thanks.

No, I'm not a huge fetter man. Oh, okay. Well, save some for the rest of us. I don't mind it in a salad or something. What? Both of you, what did you both just say? Well, Jess is doing a pill jam bit. And you're... Well, yeah, Jess is moving in a weed owl territory over there.

And I'm... I'm... Coming for you, Al. I just say, I don't... Fedder, if anywhere, maybe in a salad. Yeah. Okay. Eddie fetter.

Is there anything in that? Yes. There you go. Well, all done one. Well, we really... Should we start? a cheese-based pell jam cover band? Absolutely not, no.

Thank God for that. Look, I reckon we may get a Patreon target. If we hit a certain goal, we make a pill jam, cheese-based cover band. Thank you very much. Thank you so much, Kayla, Trescia. Please let us know, only to confirm that you are, in fact, a direct relative of Miss Fine.

May I thank some people as well? Miss Fine. I would love to thank again from California. Whoa, we're on a hot streak here. This time from Wilmington. I would love to thank Osvaldo Garcia. Oh, what an amazing name. Very great names so far.

Valdon Garcia. Wilmington I've heard of. Why do I know Wilmington? I've heard of all these places so far. It's such a funny thing. I've been to California for less than a week. But just because it's in everything, I've heard of so many, even small places in California.

I assume it's a small place, I have no idea. Right, I think there's a few Wilmington's, there's a North Carolina. Right. Wilmington, there's an Ohio. Well, Matt, what does Osvaldo find in the plane? Oh, from Wilmington Osvaldo finds a big bag of unpopped popcorn, but with a battery. repowered. Popcorn pop-ups.

So good. I fucking love popcorn. Do they have batteries there? Or do they have to hike to the fuselage? Yeah. I'm just being so cruel. Battery operated. No battery isn't too good.

Oh, so close. Oh, no. I mean, if they can make fire, you can pop them, kind of. You just need heat and they'll do the job. A friend got me a popcorn machine as a, kind of as a joke present, because we'd been talking about how much we loved popcorn. and she was like, you know, you won't use it much. I use it all the time.

Love it. Right. One of a bit of popcorn. I'm a big popcorn fan as well. A little bit of butter. Too salty at the cinemas. Last time I had it. Don't get that in me.

You like the saltiness. Fucking love the salt. Love it. But they're trying to sell you those $16 jumbo drinks. And I'll get them. I don't give a shit. I'm going all out of the movies. I don't have an avocado.

I haven't at all. What? I'm rich. I've looked up Wilmington, L.A. No. people. No one I've heard of. Actually, no one I've heard of,

who we mentioned on a Patreon bonus episode a while ago. Thy Trang, who played the first Yellow Ranger and the Mighty Morphing Power Rangers. Oh, fantastic. We did the curse of the Mighty Morph and Power Rangers of Patreon Bonus episode a while back. But the name that really stood out to me,

haven't heard of him, but former pitcher for the Oakland Athletics and the Cleveland Indians, Eric Plunk. Eric Plunk. Eric Plunk. Oh, well, that's just lovely. What a great name.

And it's like a picture named Plunk. Plunk it right there. Oh, that's good stuff. It writes itself. That feels good. That feels good. It feels right. I would also love to thank.

Thank you very much, Osvalho. Please enjoy your popcorn. I would love to thank from Marblehead Massachusetts. Correctly said. Thank you for getting that right. I would love to thank John Raines. Raines eat. John Raines.

John Raines. I, And they're all finding it the same place. I'd love it. I'd love for them to be able to share around. Oh, that'd be nice. So I find there's a lot of snacky stuff. Yeah, so John finds a big bag of flour and a mixing pot.

Okay, good. So with a bit of water. And a thermo mixer. He can make damper, right? It's just water and flour? I think so. Yeah, a bit of salt for taste. Get that from the ocean.

A lot of salt for me, thanks. So you get a little damper, a lot of nice sort of. of a simple bread. And yeah, that would go very nicely with the fetter, perhaps. There we go. Someone needs to find some avocado and some vegetamites. Well, something that we haven't mentioned is this deserted island has a beautiful array of vegetation. You've got banana trees, you've got avocado plants.

You've got apples. Mangoes. Mangos, yes. Oh, yum. You've got pretty much everything you want. So you don't have to worry. All those sort of bits and pieces you can put on the side. a beautiful cos lettuce field.

Delightful. There's a pizza hut. A Starbucks, which, you know, is a Melbourne coffee snob. Not wrapped about, but I'll take it. That's all we've got. Yeah, all right, I'll have a caramel macchiato, thanks. Yeah, I'm a real snob. That's why I drink almost exclusively dare-iced coffee.

Dave, bring it home. All right, a couple of people. Fantastic names we've got to read out now. from Monmouth, Oregon. Again in the US, far from six in the US, we've got Laura Killop. Oh, Laura Killop.

Fantastic. Laura Killop finds... Come on, Jess, you can do this. What does she got? What have I start with? A bag of... I want to say brains. That's okay.

No, it's not. Some people find that in a delicacy. That's true. She finds a bag of burger buns. Oh, yum. I love a burger. Like a brioche. A bryosh.

That's a bag. great. A six pack of brioche. So obviously she wants to eat them pretty quickly, foregoing style. And complimenting beautifully John's fresh bread he can make. Yep. So, but what you can put in those broshe buns is all this beautiful vegetation. Yeah, and obviously there's sausages growing as well.

Yeah, there's a sausage. There's a little hamburger bush. So you get your little patties. There's a sausage forest there, you know. A sausage forest much like the federal government's cabinet ministry. Bloody old sausage forest up there, let me tell you. Oh, wow. That's great.

That's good stuff. Sausage forest is fantastic. We got them again. Got him again, those bloody clowns up on Capitol Hill. Wow, how do you say so relevant? I'd finally like to thank from the Australian Capital Territory where those clowns meet. Yeah. Well, where they meet like once or twice a year, those lazy bastards.

Oh, that all their yachts. Yeah, well, they're not making $6 million a week. My taxpayer money. I would like to thank... You're paying $6 million in tax a week. How much are you earning? I am on Australia's rich list. Well, you know, when you get that rich, you're meant to find loopholes.

You're doing it wrong. Well, I have found loopholes, and that's how I could get the tax down. Okay. That's so much money I got. Holy moly. I would like to thank, Fron. At S-A-T. Alison Wignin.

Alison Wigern. Do we think W-I-J? Wynan. Wynan. Wine and dynan. And what is Alison Wynan and dinean on? Well, she's found a little basket, a picnic basket, with a couple of beautiful wines from the region,

as well as an assortment of cheeses dips and water crackers. Oh my God. It's my perfect Friday night. Let me tell you that. Yeah, you love a, like a little bit of a spread. Yes, my friend and I, she lives quite local, so we take turns, going to each other's houses, and we just drink wine and eat cheese and watch trash on Netflix. I love it.

And it's the best. That does sound pretty good to me. It does sound really great. I've got to tell you, Alison's standing there with an entire basket of cheese. Kayla feels like a bit of a fucking idiot. She's just got fedder. Yeah. And John's like, I made damper, you can put some cheese on the damper.

They're like, we've got water crackers, John, it's fine. It's not putting this good cheese on your damper. I've got fetter. Well, I mean, I've got 17 types of cheese here. Three of which are different types of feta. No one just eats feta on a cracker. Sorry, Kayla. Amazing.

Oh, yeah, she'd be in the power there. She's got a strong hand. Oh, yeah. Some of these cheeses have been aging. for decades. They're disgusting. Look at that mold. I really should have had them by now.

I've been saving them for a special occasion. Thanks to everyone that supports the show. We really, really appreciate it. So much. There's one last little special group we like to thank, the Triptitch Club. Dave, you want to explain what that is?

Jess, you want to let us know what they've got? Well, I just double check if we got anyone on the door list tonight. Absolutely. Right. So this is for people that have supported the show at the shout-out level or above for the... three consecutive years or more. 36 straight months of support never dropped off.

And for their ongoing support, we'd like to welcome them in to the special Triptitch Club, which is a bar slash club slash function venue. I always imagine it more like an airport lounge. You know, like you feel fancy, but it's still a bit shit. That's fine. I picture it like a jazz club. Right. Well, now I will.

A lot of velvet curtains and stuff. I should have clarified that. sooner. I'm picturing a lot of booths. Oh, yeah. I'm picturing booze as well. Booths. Boots. A lot of booths and boobs. No, just boos.

Figure out which one I said. And just usually, before Matt checks to see if anyone's being welcomed in, because once you're in, you're in for life. So you get to mingle and sometimes there's some canopays. Sometimes there's something to drink. This time there is a, you know, what's, kind of trendy at the moment, just having like a grazing platter. So it's got like cheeses, bits of salami, pretzels are thrown in there.

Oh, yeah. Biscuits, a bit of fruit, like everything is just, and it's beautifully arranged. There's a grazing platter. Drinks-wise. Love a grazing platter. That's great, yes. I had a little too much to drink over the weekend. So the concept of alcohol is making me a little queasy.

So just so you know last week when you weren't here, Jess, our good friend Jackson Bailey filled in for you. And his beautiful treat for the guest was water. Really? Water, we said a cocktail. He said water. What was the food? It was something bad as well. Grass.

Gross. Coven salt, which it had to do with the episode to be careful. Oh, yes, I do remember that. You leave for one week. And the lounge goes to shit. And funnily enough, no one was on the door list last week. Thank God. I think they'd all.

They maybe all heard. Funnily enough, I've thrown out all that grass and water. We don't have water here, unless you want it. You can have water. But I'm thinking, like, we all need a bit of a break from the boo. So maybe some virgin daqarees or something. Oh, yum. You know?

So fruity and yum and I still have that social element of having a drink, but without the headache tomorrow. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's great. And we should say, obviously, every week, there's always virgin options, but we just saw it as a group, everyone had a chat. Matt has, of course, assured that there are virgin options. And if you sort of nod and wink at me,

I got a little bottle of whiskey that I can dip into the virgins if you so desire. Just the drinks, we're talking about the drinks. Yes, dip into the... I can get my bottle of whiskey a dip into the virgins. Dip it into the vera... Yeah, no, you're right, that was poorly phrased. I was saving you. I was making fun.

I was making fun. All right. Well, there are three new inductees on the door list today, getting in behind the Velvet Grove. And you know what's the soundtrack this week? Oh, that's right. Live on stage, the man, the myth, the magic, Ricky Martin.

Oh, I was going to say Eddie Fetter. So, all right, Ricky Martin. Ricky is better. Yeah. Ricky Fetter, the cheese Eddie Vedder cover. Ricky Martin will be playing the music of Pearl Jam. Oh, wow. I'd love to hear that.

feeling da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da yeah great combo that sounds fantastic so there are three inductees this week from port st luci or lucy in florida united states elvis nalasco

from castle hill in new south wales australia ben campbell there's a good guys there and are you're talking of the good guys you just get to remember a lot of the what was the place again? Castle Hill.

Oh, fantastic. And from Yinnah in Victoria, Australia, it's Matt Dennis. Multiple good guys. Wow. Matt Dennis, welcome in. Behind the rope. Enjoy your daffery. Enjoy Ricky Martin playing the music.

Matt Ben and Elvis. Geez, we got it off to a hot start name-wise and ended up with Matt Dennis. No offence, Matt, obviously. I am there with you for sort of beige names. Dennis Station is my favourite. I love that. There's a train station Melbourne called Dennis. It's called Dennis.

Dennis Station. Dennis Stations. It's like someone that would write into the age complaint. The Green Guide signed. Dennis Station. 66. Dennis. Actually, Matt Dennis has grown on me.

I like it as a name. I'm also a double first name guy. I can totally relate. Matt Dennis. Actually, Matt Dennis is... That's more interesting than Matt Stewart, isn't it? Sorry Elvis. Yeah.

Well, I don't think... I don't think it's beaten Elvis Nalasco. That's an amazing name. Which I can only assume is a fake name. And Benny Campbell, very solid name as well. Well, done all. Yeah, well, that closes out the Patreon section of the show this week. Really, all we've got to do now is wrap up.

Maybe if anyone needs reminders, we've got a web series going for the next three weeks. That's right, episode seven coming out this Friday. And if you want to be involved in the... premiere. Anyone can jump on the stupid old channel should we say when we're doing it this week? We want to go for the same time

Friday night, midnight? Sure. Yeah. So that's end of Friday, Melbourne time. Dave pointed out that some people might confuse that for actually that's Thursday night is midnight. Friday.

I genuinely was confused. Sorry, I was that idiot. You were the un-actually. Yeah, you're sort of the idiot, but also definitely. The smartest one here, for sure. Yes. Backhand a compliment, so I appreciate that. Thank you.

And, yeah, you can get involved on the patron at patreon.com slash dugon pod. A bunch of different rewards, including bonus episodes, the Facebook group, which is a real nice, fun place to be, probably the nicest place on Facebook. And anything else we need to mention? I should say, I'm having some real trouble with Patreon. I'm going to send them a message today, but apparently the welcome messages aren't sending to everyone. So if you have been sitting waiting patiently on the fact quote or question section waiting for me to get in contact, there's a form link that you're meant to get when you sign up.

If that hasn't happened for you, please send me a message on Patreon and I'll send you that link. And I'm going to try and close that annoying little quirk in the system. And we're also, we got a meeting last time. We've got a heap of exciting things. going to be working on over the next few months. Yeah. So stay tuned. Stay tuned.

What an annoying, sort of vague bit of sizzle that is. Yeah. I'm feeling really excited about the Do Go and World right now, as I have been constantly for the last five years. And we have rebranded as Do Go On World. Yeah, Worldwide. No mats. And I'm still not sure why they've put that bit in brackets.

No, it's Do Go on Worldwide, No Boys Allow. So, hand over your business cards. Oh, no. Anyway, yeah, get in touch. We do go on pod on all of the social media. Do go on pod at gmail.com. Our website is do go on pod.com. Everything is there.

And wash your butt. Wash your butt. And hopefully we'll see you on the live streams. It's going to be so much fun. Only two and a half weeks of the first one starts if you're listening to this one. One of them, on the 250th, we'll have a second half of you. party exclusive to the stream. Each week, the episodes go

for about an hour and then there's about the same amount of time again which is exclusive to the stream. So obviously, you can just listen to the episode next week for free, but if you want to get

the full 3D experience, all 3Ds, I think of us as 3 dickheads. And, yeah, that bonus stuff that only happens in the stream. One week we'll get Dave to do a quiz, one's going to be a party

and we'll think of a few other things as well, we'll do a Q&A and whatnot. So, yeah, involved links to all that stuff in the bloody show notes. All righty. Well, on that note, I'd like to say thank you so much for listening. And until next week, I'll say goodbye.

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