Two In The Think Tank - 245 - The Miracle In The Andes

Episode Date: July 1, 2020

In October 1972, a plane carrying a Uruguayan rugby team crashed in the Andes. The story of how some of the passengers survived is one of the most amazing stories of survival and the human spirit! Buy tickets to our live streamed shows on July 18 + 25, August 1st + 8:https://sospresents.com/catalogSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodCheck out our web series: https://www.youtube.com/user/stupidoldchannel Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicVote for the albums to be covered on Listen Now:https://www.eSurveysPro.com/Survey.aspx?id=b43703e6-0295-4c89-9235-c92351a83a48Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571#In_popular_culturehttps://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2016/04/160403-andes-uruguay-rugby-cannibal-plane-crash-canessa-ngbooktalk/https://allthatsinteresting.com/miracle-in-the-andes-uruguayan-flight-571https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8m0cV7NWO8https://www.britannica.com/event/Uruguayan-Air-Force-flight-571

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You could start your new career in months, not years. Take classes online or on campus Visit PlanetBroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of To Go On! My name is Dave Wannocky and as always I'm sitting here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hi Jess, I'm Dave. Hi Matt, I'm Dave. Hello. Oh man, I panicked. Could you tell? Yeah. Both in tone of voice and flashing eyes. Yeah, and the sweats. I was like, fuck off, I've gotten your names. That's been a while, we haven't recorded it since last night. When we put out a Patreon bonus episode today,

which is the third one for the month, people are interested they can hear Matt's report on a terrifying plane incident. Yes. What's it called? All four engines failed. Yeah, I've got all engines failed. So a wild story. You can check that out at patreon.com slash doger1. But and while I'm here telling people about other stuff that can get involved with before we crack into this week's episode

We should say that we have four more online live stream shows coming up. Yes. We had such a good time doing them last time And so we thought hey, let's do some more. That's just our thought process. I just wanted to give you a little peek behind the curtain there. That's just how it came about. And the first one is on July 18th. We've got July 25th.

There's a Saturday's at 12 o'clock Melbourne time, but you can work at wherever you can watch some live anywhere in the world. Saturday, August 1st, and that is also our 250th episode. Mm. We'll have a little laughter party that you'll be invited to if you come to the stream for that. All the other episodes, I have a little bonus section as well. So you hear the episode for about an hour, but we do a lot of other waffling and talking

and chatting for at least another hour. Yeah, I was going to suggest maybe one of the other episodes you could do a quiz for us in the second half. I love to. I love to. I love to. I love to. This is a quiz, yeah, that sounds fun. So you stop saying if you come to the stream because I'm going to get confused

and I'm going to turn up at our local stream. Oh, OK. Ready to pod. Uh-oh. It's going to be the wrong place. What is the Maribbonong? Yes, the Maribbonong stream. Of course.

The Yarra stream just up the road. Well, without further ado, we really should get cracking on what we do best. And that is tell people to buy tickets at sospresents.com link in the description you can buy. Pay for three episodes and get to come to all four. So you're in the stream. I was wondering what what I was going with when I said what we do best, because it's certainly not this podcast, but anyway, we should do it all the same. I think friendship is what we do. Yes, well let's get on with our friendship via this podcast.

So the way it works is if you listen to the first time, one of the three of us goes away and really researchers a topic, dives in, oils up, lathers in information, normally the topic spends a gesture by listener, then we come back and we tell the other two all about what we learned in the form of a report. While the other two sit and sort of just interrupt a bed and try to have a bit of fun and just have a good time to catch up as friends,

and that's annoying for some people, but for others, they love it. Some people hate friendship. They do. Yeah. Anyway, this week Jess is the one who's been doing the research. She's brought the report back to Dave and I today. And she's going to kick off with a question.

What is the question this week Jess? Question is, what event went on to be referred to as the miracle in the Andes? Oh my God, I started listening to the audiobook with that exact title last week. Oh. The miracle in the Andes. Well, you probably know it is the one

where the soccer team ate each other. That is. I mean, that's 50% right. So close. Rugby team. Oh. That's right. The Uruguayan rugby team.

Which is why when you were telling us a story about a plane crash last night, I felt very tense because we were putting out two plane crash episodes in a space of two days. I'm more comfortable with that because a fantastic report by the way, we'll get to that and say, but I'm comfortable doing back-to-back plane crashes because the world is flying a lot less at the moment. Yes. So chances are, some people are still flying, but chances are, you won't be on a plane for a while.

Yeah, unless you listen to this in the future when... Oh, yeah, for a while. ...the travel is normal again, but for us, in the room, I'll forget about this tomorrow, and that I won't be on a plane for a while after that next week. And you also won't play rugby for a while. That's true. Or eat a friend. So anyway, a little spoiler for a little later on.

So this is the story. So in October of 1972, the old Christians Club rugby union team from Montevideo in Uruguay was scheduled to play. Montevideo? Is that all right? I think I regret bringing this up. But I did think and I might be wrong, it was Montevideo. Am I wrong? I really regret a certain sort of support. I'm like, shut the fuck up, man. Anyway, can you get it that bit out and just keep going with the very first sentence of the report? But now I want to know, what is it Dave?

I've said Montevideo. It is like rodeo rodeo. Some people potato the party. No, I definitely, yeah, I saw in a video, they said it like Montevideo, but it could have been an American man saying that's a who knows. Luckily, it won't come up much. It won't come up much beyond this. Okay, great. So it's good to just get past it.

But I do regret bringing it up. I just want that on the record. Thank goodness. That was scheduled to play a match against the Old Boys Club, which was an English rugby team in Santiago in Chile. The team chatted, what? No objections, Matt. No objections there. But I do love the idea that this This football teams literally call themselves a boys club a bit of a boys club for the old boys club over here

What is this what is this bloody the Straying government Bloody cabinet meeting room My heart. I really got that out nice Nelson sharply. I got them. Absolutely took them down. So they charted a Uroguoan Air Force twin turbo prop fairchild FH 227D. I think we all know. I hear that and I think that plane will never crash. And you know what Dave a lot of people would think that. It sounds good. a big to fail So they they they charted this plane to fly them over the anti or and is to Santiago and days and days

It's a small plane generally they can carry between 44 and 52 passengers The pilot was a man named Colonel Julio Cesar Faradas Again my life is in his hands. I could not be any more confident in this. Right? Firstly, he's a Colonel. Colonel. And his name is Cesar Faradas.

And you just hear, let us do the gentleman, this is your captain, Julio Cesar. I had him a Colonel last speaking. I'd be like, take me wherever you need to go, Cap. No worries, I'm just going to pull down the shutter on the window and fall asleep here. Wait up. Wait me when we get there. Santiago. He was an experienced Air Force pilot who had over 5,000 flying hours. That seemed incredibly impressive to me in a documentary I watched.

An American Air Force guy was like, you know, today's standards. That's not that much. And I'm like, okay, well, this was in 1972 and you're talking quite recently. Maybe things have changed. I mean, 5,, well this was in 1972 and you're talking quite recently, maybe things have changed. I mean, 5,000 saw a lot, isn't it? Many hours have passed since 1972. Yeah. So I think he was just, you know, he was just poking holes in the store. Yeah, the Colonel didn't have access to all these hours I've had since then. Yeah. Right. His hours were limited to his lifetime. Yeah, just to that point and before. But we've had, you know, the next nearly 50 years.

Damn right. Yep. His co-pilot was Lieutenant Colonel Dante Hector La Guara. Well, this is going to be an episode of real good names. Yes, and I'm probably going to butcher a few of them, but I'm doing my best. There are a few spare seats on the flight, about 10 spare. So some of the team members invited friends and family members to come seats on the flight about 10 spares, so some of the team members

invited friends and family members to come along on the trip. You'd feel pretty guilty about that, wouldn't you? Well, not at the time. No, sorry. It's time you like to be lovely. Just coming ahead from what I've heard. There's a scheduled 4-day trip that is going Thursday to Monday, lovely long weekend. Oh, great.

And one of the guys called his mum, called his sister, said, hey, pack a bag. You come on a chile. I'm like, yeah, you know, it's a nice time. Should I bring food and stuff? No, you won't need it. We're going to chile. It's a short flight. So in total, there were 40 passengers and five crew members on board. Now, the aircraft departed on the 12th of October, 1972, with a storm front over the, but a storm front over the Andes, forced them to stop overnight in Mendoza, in Argentina. Mendoza. Mendoza.

Mendoza. It only seems like a reference there. They were sent to the park the next day. And while there is a direct flight path from Mendoza, 200 kilometers to the west to Santiago, it's like quite direct. But the high mountains require a plane to fly at a higher altitude and given that it was a smaller plane and it was full, it was pretty standard procedure for a smaller plane to take a longer 600 kilometer, 90 minute, U-shaped route where they basically

fly south, then head west and then turn north to Santiago. They do a little U instead of just straight across. Right. But that's pretty standard. There's nothing weird about that. It was just size of the plane. Let's just do it this way. It sounds like the safer option. Yes.

So they skip around the highest peaks of the Andes. They go round rather than over, you know? Like that book. Yeah. Can't go over it. Going on a bare hunt. We'll go around it. Thank you.

Why could I not remember going on a bare hunt? Well, does it, has it been like 20 years that you're watching PlaySchool or something? What a loser. I wasn't watching PlaySchool when I was 10. It's been easily 25 years. Genuinely, this is a thing I remember from prep, the first year of school here.

I was chatting to some new friends and I loved PlaySchool and one of them said like play schools for little kids I mean you're five fucking years old you are a little kid. Yes play schools for little kids And I genuinely said I know I only watch it for the arts and crafts That's very good It's all I watched it for I loved it. I watched it for John real wag. What a wag. John was your favorite. Yeah, Simon's favorite. Bonita obviously. No, no, no, no. Big fan of my name, say David.

Of course. You were named after him or you just have the same name? No, I was named after him. Okay, that doesn't sound real. I was born George, but I demand it. James, shadowed we didn't live through the J. LaGuyer era. What a man. Yes. What a man. Yeah.

I mean, you're in Star Wars, you're in Playschool, you're in Water Rats. Well, it's the big three. Yeah, it's done it all. Anyway, that's a weird side track there. Love it. Anyway, so they're set side track there. Love it. Anyway, so they're set to take off the next day after a stopover in Mendoza.

So the weather that morning was still less than desirable after the storm the day before, but conditions were set to improve by the afternoon. So the pilot decided to wait, and the plane eventually departed at 2.18 p.m. on Friday the 13th of October. Oh. Which is? Amously.

A perfect day to fly. A evil day. Why is that? What's the history there? I don't know why I have to be. I am as is this story. Yeah, it's gonna be to do with the 13th, right? Yeah.

That's an unlucky number. Why Friday? Yeah, Friday, he's in great Friday. Oh. Actually, it's Friday wasn't always the first other way, Candy. It used to be Death Day. Right, this could be people on Friday. Yeah, yeah, it used to be.

Killings, business and business is good. And if it was the 13th, then they doubled the amount of people they killed. Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense to me. Yeah. So the pilot for our desk had flown across the Andes 29 times previously. He'd done it many times.

By modern standards, that's not many times. Yeah, it's like Yarn whatever. Oh, God. We've all done it. But on this flight, he was training his co-pilot, La Guara, who was the pilot in command. So he's in charge today. The pilots had plotted a course south to the pass of Planchon, where the aircraft could safely clear the Andes.

Approximately an hour after take off, the pilot notified air traffic controllers that he was flying over the pass, and shortly thereafter he radioed that he had reached Curicho, or Carico, in Chile, some 110 miles south of Santiago, and that he'd turned north. The pilot, however, had misjudged the location of the aircraft. Cloud coverage meant they weren't able to visually confirm their location, so while they thought they were over the pass, the plane had actually turned north straight into the heart of the Andes, so they've turned right too soon. They haven't passed the Andes.

Right, so it's supposed to be like a clear bit and now they're going to fly into the really tall peaks. So they're just misjudged it. Yeah, by a lot, by quite a bit. Baga. So as the aircraft started to descend because they, you know, they were starting to descend for landing, severe turbulence tossed the aircraft up and down. The rugby players initially joked because they were starting to descend for landing. Severe turbulence tossed the aircraft up and down. The rugby players initially joked about the turbulence. One of the players, 19 year old Roberto Canessa,

recalls rugby players like to fool around and play Marcho. So we were throwing around rugby balls and singing your song, Konga Konga Konga, the plane is dancing Konga. The next thing someone looked out the window and said, aren't we flying too close to the mountains? Realising his mistake the pilot began to climb until the plane was nearly vertical and it began to stall and shake. Oh shit. Wait, only when the rugby player said something to the pilot notice. Obviously seen it at the same time or yeah, so it's as they They're starting to because it's so much cloud coverage. I think they're just right over Chile

It's still the most the experienced kernel is Doing the work. This isn't like the understudy taking the reins for a bit. Yeah, it is the understanding So he's he's the man command for this flight, because he's learning. And the colonel's like, no, he needs to learn. I could say something. I could save us all first. But he'll never learn that way. And he'll never forget this way.

Obviously, I mean, they must have been working together and both have made this mistake, I don't know. So the pilot was able to bring the aircraft nose over the ridge, but at 3.34 pm, the lower part of the tail cone clipped the ridge at 13,000 feet. Oh, so just clipped it. Just clipped it. Oh, so like a split second earlier. They realized. Yeah, maybe might have made it. Oh But that yeah, so by clipping the the ridge split second earlier they realized that they might have made it. But that sucks. So by clipping the ridge, the rear portion of the fuselage, including two rows of seats

in the rear section of the passenger cabin, the galley baggage hold, vertical stabilizer and horizontal stabilizers, not sure what that is, they're all gone. They sound important. They do sound important. So it left this gaping hole in the rear of the fuselage. Three passengers, the navigator, and the steward were lost with the tail section. So five people at the back.

And now they're like, instant dead, I imagine. Yeah, I'm too sweet to say, yeah. I don't know, I really don't know much about the story at all. Obviously, because the first thing I thought was the socket, I've heard of what referred to as a football term, I think I assume. I think there was another story with the soccer team. Oh, okay, maybe I'm confusing too.

Yeah. But yeah, I'm wondering now, was that, it seemed bad like for them, is it the kind of thing where it's like, well, it was over quickly for them? Maybe. And the others as long and drawn out and more. Right, anyway, I guess I'll find out. So the next collision severed the right wing and the aircraft continued forward and upward another 200 meters or 660 feet. For a few more seconds when the left wing was torn off. Oh my god. So now I got no wings which arguably quite important. So now they're basically like a

missile. Yeah. So the one of the propellers sliced through the fuselage is the wing it was attached to was severed and two more passengers fell out the open rear of the fuselage. The front portion of the fuselage flew straight through the air before sliding down a steep slope at 350 kilometers an hour 220 miles miles per hour, like a high speed toboggan for about 725 meters before colliding with a snowbank. So it's come to a very sudden halt. The impact against the snowbank crushed the cockpit and the two pilots inside which killed

the Colonel throughout us. The plane fuselage came to arrest on an unnamed glacier. Later it was called Glacier of Teas. I'm not sure if related, but seems appropriate. It's in the remote mountainous border between Chile and Argentina. The aircraft was 80 kilometers or 50 miles east of its planned route.

So they're way off course. Oh, that is a fair distance even in plain years. Yeah. Wow. I didn't realize how brutal this was. Even though I did. It's funny. I had the start.

I said, soccer players eating each other. And my head, not that not that full on of a story. But obviously that the story is not going to, it doesn't just jump to that. Yeah. But this is I didn't's such a violent crash. I'm thinking they landed and then things got rough. So it started so violently.

And it happened pretty suddenly. And it, I mean, it also sounds terrible, like, obviously, that's horrific crash. But also, I think it's like the chances of them even tobogganing down and then actually having any stop. Yeah, it's kind of that is it is a miracle that they didn't all just die, right? Right. Yeah, like they lost the back of the plane, they lost the wings and then they're flying with nothing for that. Yeah, right. And that is so very true.

To go into a mountain. Yeah. In that area, it's like, oh, that's, I mean, you've got to take the, it's totally, yeah, the fuselage half full. Well, um, which it sadly now was. Um, in one of the, the dockos that I saw, they were sort of talking about that, because it's sort of like the, the pilot must have been aiming for this, kind of ridge, like a bit of a gap between two ridges. So the wing was taken off, but if it had just been like a solid mountain or something, the whole plane just would have disintegrated. Yeah, and it all gone in a second?

Yeah. So the kernels last act really, even though you kinda got them into that trouble, he did save lives, at least initially. I guess so, yeah. It was a quick thinking. So the Chilean air search and rescue service called SARS was notified within the hour that the flight was missing. A search for the missing

plane was launched but it soon became clear that the last reported location was incorrect. So then they've sort of widening their search. Oh right so they thought they're in a different spot. That's why they turned it on and they've also reported that wrong. Oh, right. So they thought they're in a different spot. That's why they've turned it. And they've also reported that wrong. Exactly. Oh, man. Yeah. They listened to the radio transmissions

and concluded the aircraft had come down in one of the most remote and inaccessible areas of the Andes. So basically, the pilot had checked in with air traffic control and said, I'm here. I'm turning south. I'm turning west. I'm here, I'm turning, I'm turning south, I'm turning west. I'm here I'm turning west and then he radioed in three minutes later saying, okay, I'm at this point now and I'm turning north, whereas that stretch

should take 11 minutes, but they apparently did in three, so he'd really misjudged. So that's, I think that's how they figured it out by listening to the radio transmission. So I was sort of like,. So that's I think that's how they figured it out by listening to the radio transmissions I was sort of like, oh, that's too close together. Right. You must actually be here. So rescue teams shifted their attention to the Andes But they were searching for a white plane on a snowy mountain. Oh dear, that's difficult to do. On the second day 11 aircraft from Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay searched for the downed flight. So the first, it was like the afternoon when the plane crashed and so they searched until

it was dark and then they started again the next day with 11 planes. So the crash initially killed 12 people, leaving 33 survivors, a number of whom were injured. Gustavo Zabino and Roberto Canessa, who was the 19-year-old engine before, were both second year medical students, and they acted quickly to assess the severity of people's injuries. Nando Parado had a skull fracture and was presumed dead. His body was moved to outside the fuselage with the other dead bodies, but within a few days he started moving, alerting his fellow survivors that he was in fact alive. Oh, that's not great.

So he's the one that I was listening to, and he talks about how he thinks that, because I run this into the first bit, so I'm not going to jump in with all these, well actually just in the book that he wrote. So I've only heard the first bit, which is about the crash. And he talks about how you had the skull fracture really, really bad. But he thinks one of the reasons he may have survived is because he was outside the freezing, may have done well for the brain swelling.

Yes. Oh. I saw that in a docker. So a doctor was saying that by serendipity, the hyperthermic conditions was actually exactly what his type of brain injury needed. Oh, isn't that amazing? But then he also, I don't know if you said this

and he said when he touched his head, he pushed down and he could feel soft and he realized, I'm touching my brain. Yeah, he don't want that. Which is not. It was not. Yeah, that's, I would call that a really unpleasant experience. Yeah, but he remained in a coma for three days,

but yeah, by chance, probably being out in the cold was what kept him alive. Amazing. Which is incredible. There's quite a few miracles already. Yeah, and it keeps going. It keeps getting worse and worse, but there's little glimmers of hope sometimes. Right.

Don't worry, Matt, I've heard this guy on an audiobook. Okay. So what does that tell you? What does that tell you? So there's a vibe of sort of multiple planes flying overhead and tried to get their attention, even attempting to write SOS in lipstick on the top of the fuselage, I mean desperate times, but they realized that A, they didn't have enough lipstick to be seen from the air and that cloud coverage and snow made them invisible to the planes overhead.

That would be so frustrating planes flying over you and they can't see you. I would also assume that you know they see in their minds they're going the pilots are flying overhead again. Oh look at that crash plane down there. Well no message on it. Let's keep flying. Yeah. Oh there's it where that crash plane says SOS we better do something about it. Surely the crashed plane is enough of a message. Yeah. I mean that plane looks fine from here. Yeah, we're at swings, don't worry about it. So meanwhile. I don't see that man's brain. From the planes, those searching for the crashed plane had little hope of anyone's chance of survival. Back on the ground, the surviving passengers removed the broken seats and other debris from the aircraft so they could use a fuselage as a makeshift

shelter. During the first night five more passengers died including the co-pilot who was stuck in the cockpit. Oh that's one of the nasty bits of the book. He said they couldn't get him out. They can't get him out. They can't get him out. They pushed up against him. I think he asked at one point for, like there was a gun on board and he said get the gun and kill me. And they didn't. No, they didn't. Which is awful.

Oh, and there was also not their decision is awful, just the situation. He was awful. Yeah, there's also a lady pinned under the chairs. They talk about that at all. No, I didn't read it. It was like someone's mamma said, oh no, she just, she'd paid to go with them. Yes. She was basically an older lady and she was pinned under the chairs and they couldn't get her out.

She just died under there. She was, she got, somebody dropped out of the fly. So there was a spare seat. So she paid to come so she could go to her daughter's wedding. Yeah, it's so tough. It's awful. And I also just want to point out that this is an awful and incredibly bleak story and it's the saddest of the four topics I put up to the Patreon and it was a tight race but this one by one vote. And also 30 people who were eligible did not vote. So if you don't like this topic, you have the power to choose.

Yeah, that's right. If you're on that Patreon level, you get to basically dictate what we talk about. I mean, it's every vote counts. It is an amazing story. Anyway, so the 28 who remained crammed themselves into the broken fuselage in a space about 2.5 by 3 meters. So a really small space. How many people? 28 people.

That just was the size of my troubled bedroom, my bungalow. 28 people in there? Yeah, I was just man there by myself. And big grand or 16. Yeah, it wasn't big given for like I could only fit a single bed in there. And this time amazing. In COVID regulations, they really should have only three people in there. Right, that's a good point. So they used luggage seats and snow as a wall to close off the open end of the fuselage, so to keep some of the cold out. And one of the survivors named Fito Strouch figured out a way to collect drinking water by getting pieces of sheet metal from under the seats

and placing it on the snow, placing snow on it, sorry. And then the sun sort of melted the snow a little bit and they just sort of funneled it into wine bottles. It's amazing that these are the stories where you go. This is what humanity can do in the like the roughest scenarios. They figured out they're making walls out of snow. Yeah, they're lucky in some ways they've got medical students.

Second year, they've got some knowledge. But I always think about how in that situation how useless I am, I'm so impractical. I would never think of something like a series of things that trip into wine. I would lie down and wait to die. I'd be like, well, I'm done. I'd be useless. And then people would be like, well, Jess, I'll long down outside the snow, actually saved your life.

Yeah, I'm like, fuck! Let me go. It's wild. I think I would be completely useless. This same guy also fashioned sunglasses out of sun visors from the pilots cabin, also using wire and a brass strap, because they'd get

snow blind. Oh, I thought it was for fashion. He made some sunnies. They only had like a few pairs, but they shared them around. Before then sunglasses didn't exist. Yeah, he invented sunglasses. People don't know that. So they removed seat covers from all the seats obviously and they used them for warmth.

The captain of the rugby team, a man named Marcelo Perez, naturally assumed the position of leader. And Nando Parado, who I mentioned was in the coma before for three days, woke from his coma to learn that his mother had died in the crash and that his 17-year-old sister Susanna Parado was severely injured. He looked after, he's only like 22, 23. They're all, keep that in mind as well, which I did not think about much until, I'd basically finished the report. I'm like, these are young men.

It's a rugby team, they're very young. So Nando looked after, he did his best to look after his sister, but sadly she passed away on their eighth day. Oh. Eight days. Night was the hardest time for them. As temperatures dropped to minus 30 degrees Celsius, which is minus 22 Fahrenheit.

Say again how cold? Minus 30. That is, so last night it was five degrees here and we were pretty cold. We were reaching about it. So it's 35 degrees cold. I say the least. It was definitely me, bitching. We were reaching about it. So it's 35 degrees colder than that. I say it was definitely maybe a thing. It's unbelievable.

Yeah. And they're not dressed in snow gear either. Not at all. They, well, they're dressed for summer. Yeah, some of them were in shorts and stuff. It's October. So it's not like it's, it's, it's Southern, it's like here. It's, it's springtime.

And I think Montemoday, we're, it's spring. And we're, I know it's South, South South Southern hemisphere. Yeah, springtime. I think where that where the fron is also To pretty arid climate so that where it so where are we I'm I'm pretty dodgy with Equator they're just the south of it. Yes. Yes. Yeah, there you go. No, I looked at Dave. Yes Yeah, wait there. Yeah, what what country did they crash in there? In but they're on the border of Chile and Argentina right. Okay. Yes Coming from Europe like like Argentina is the long one down the west coast of

South America. Is that right? Yeah, yeah, right. Okay. I'm with you That's more than I knew. I'm really bit, I could get better geography. Maybe I need to download some kind of geography game. Yeah, I've been working on it with some of that stuff as well. I've been working through the American States, so I was telling you the other week. And yeah, I think South America, Moldman's been doing it. He goes through South American countries alphabetically when he's gone to like the next start to get to sleep. And then he goes through South American countries alphabetically when he's gone to like as an exote to get to sleep and then he goes through the countries and their capital cities.

Well, that's great. Yeah, so I'm gonna, that's what I'm gonna do next. I've done the American States ones, I've sort of mastered that, not so to brag. Easy, peasy. So I'm gonna move on to South America, work my way around the globe. Yeah, so it's like it's like it's warm weather and also, Uruguay, I think I heard one of them say that, like it's maybe 5,000,

the altitude is, I don't know, like it's, it's beat, it's ocean, they're not, they've never seen snow. Right. And now they're stuck in the mountains. Right. In shorts or like in, yeah, in... I'm surprised that people are able to survive even that long even if you're going in there

healthy like without injuries yeah totally that's amazing like the man with his brain out his head yeah lasted without food or anything any attention for two days in negative 30 degrees. Yeah. And you said that was Celsius? Yeah. Negative 30 Celsius, negative 22. I can't even comprehend that. No. I'm such a suck if it's like 10 degrees, I'm grumpy.

And you guys laugh at me on a plane when you're in tracksuit pants and I'm wearing a three-piece suit. Yeah, you do dress up, but I mean, where were in tracksuit pants? We're wearing comfortable warm clothes. In my bag I have six fur jackets. Okay, so you can share. Oh, you're gonna wear six yourself. It's minus 30. But have you got have you purposely bought them in a range of sizes? So they go from like tight fitting to very big so you can put them on properly. Now I brought them in an array of colours so I don't get bored. Okay as you layer up each morn. Yes it's a winters morn. Roger that. So cold though. See yeah like I was saying most of the team members have never seen snow before and none had experienced such high altitude. They had no equipment, no warm clothing.

For food, they had eight chocolate bars, a tin of muscles, three small jars of jam, a tin of almonds, a few dates, candies, dried plums, and several bottles of wine. Because keep in mind as well, it's a 50-seater plant. It's not a big commercial jet where you could maybe, I'm thinking of last, where they like really rated the food.

Right, it sounds like the worst in flight menu ever though. Totally. But yeah, really it feels like foods that a sports team would have. That's all like the kind of food you eat during a game and stuff, isn't it? I love the sound. No bit of sugars and this is orange slices. Yeah. A bit of low GI, you know, I really? I love this game. No bit of sugars. Yeah. This is orange slices. Yeah.

A bit of low GI. You know, I really get you through the game. It's one of those tubs full of cordial to pour over the coach. And they still do it. They can drink it, but no. I don't respect they pour it on the coach and use frozen in five minutes. They were on a snow-covered mountain, so there were no animals or vegetation. They could source for food.

So this is all they have. They found a small transistor radio jammed between seats of the aircraft, and one of the passengers Roy Harley improvised a very long antenna using electrical cable from the plane. But a transistor radio isn't like a two way, so they can maybe hear some messages every now and then, but it's not super helpful. After rescue parties have been searching for the plane for about eight days, it was concluded that the search was hopeless, that they'd hoped to find the bodies in summer when the snow melted. It was a few days later, either on the 10th or 11th day, that the survivors heard via the radio that the search for them had been pulled off a few days earlier.

That's got a dash morale. Yeah, big time. The search was called off. Here's the latest one from Bon Gobi. It's my life. Everyone's singing along. I love this song though, but I'm really sad. There was an author called Pee's Paul Reed, and he wrote a book called Alive, the story of the Andy Survivors, which was later adapted into the film Alive. Oh, yes, I've heard of that. Yeah, because of the Simpsons? Maybe. No thanks to the plane. Some of us are still alive.

This is a little excerpt from his book about when they found out. He wasn't there by the way, but just with the interviews and stuff. So he says, the others who had clustered around Roy upon hearing the news began to sob and pray, all except Nando, who looked calmly up at the mountains which rose to the west. Gustavo Nicolich came out of the aircraft and seeing their faces knew what they'd heard. Nicolich climbed through the hole in the wall of the suitcases and rugby shirts, crouched at the mouth of the dim tunnel

and looked at the mournful faces which were all turned towards him. Hey boys, you're shattered. There's some good news. We just heard on the radio. They've called off the search. Inside the crowd at aircraft, there was silence. As the hopelessness of their predicament enveloped them, they wept. Why the hell is that good news? Pires shouted angrily at Nickelich. Because it means that we're going to get out of here on our own. Oh, that is bad. Oh, shit. We don't need those rescue fucks.

We've got this. Oh, my God. And then the author writes, the courage of this one boy prevented a flood of total despair. Oh, that is so cool. How amazing is that? Yeah, like just...

I'd be like, where fucked? You need someone with that. Yeah. To, um, yeah, dragged through. Someone with that, yeah, strong will. There's a few pretty amazing characters in this, but that is a very nice, um, I mean, who knows if it happened exactly like that, but I choose to believe, because it's lovely.

I'm into it. So that book's called A Live. Yeah. And it's been turned into a movie. What about a musical? It's a live, the musical. We crashed our plane, but we're gonna get through. I love it. I just I'm just gonna live my life in snow. Is that a bond Bond Joby musical? A live. I love it. Yeah, so I don't know if that's inappropriate or what,

but I mean, I'm feeling like maybe this whole podcast is today. Inappropriate. Inappropriate. I guess so. Is it inappropriate? No, it's a fantastic survival tale, which we've done many on this show before

That's true. Yeah, I mean yes It is I mean yes Please do go on Face with starvation and death those still alive had a conversation many of us have probably joked about but never Ever want to have in real life and something that we've already hinted at. Should we have an orgy? Should we have an orgy? I did not say that coming, is that? Well, it does, I mean... Which can happen in an orgy because you know, it's going on.

Oh, Jesus, where have that come from? Oh, my God. Sorry about that. Sorry, sorry about that. Not even I knew that was about to happen. Doesn't sex raise your body temperature? Oh, Jesus, where that come from? Oh my God. Sorry about that. Sorry. Sorry about that. Not even I knew that was about to happen. Doesn't sex raise your body temperature? Damn right. So how did you know, Dave? We just said some good news on the radio. Dave, what's that?

Well, we're fucked, so we may as well have sex, and it's my first time. Well, that is good news. Wonderful. No, they agreed that should they die, the others might consume their bodies in order to live. Sexually. Yes.

No? Roberto Canessa, the 19-year-old medical student, wrote this, after just a few days, we were feeling the sensation of our own bodies consuming themselves just to remain alive. Before long, we would become too weak to recover from starvation. We knew the answer,

but it was too terrible to contemplate. We wondered whether we were going mad even to contemplate such a thing. Had we turned into brutal savages, or was this the only same thing to do? Truly we were pushing the limit of our fee. I don't want to dwell on this a lot because it makes me feel very sick to read about. But it is important to mention because it comes up a lot and I knew I'd get a lot of messages if I didn't talk about it. But if you want to find out more, feel free to look it up yourself, you sicko. I was just going to put on the record that if we need it too, you can eat me.

Dave, you are the worst one to eat. I know. Obviously kill me and eat me. All right. You two are just, like, it's just gristle. Well, enjoy. Enjoy that gristle. Also, I did have, well, since writing this, had a conversation with some friends the other day about it.

And one of my friends was like, you wouldn't do it. I'm like, you're right, I wouldn't. Even in, because I don't eat meat as it is. And I'm a fussy eater. So I think it would honestly, I'd just be like, oh, not for me, thanks. I'll eat some snow. Anyway, so as if things couldn't get any worse,

after 17 days stranded, an avalanche struck the fuselage where the survivors were sleeping. Apparently, something like 250,000 avalanches happened in the Andes every year. Like it's very avalanche prone, small, big, whatever. I don't know how particularly big this one was, but it came through in the middle of the night as they were sleeping.

And eight of the survivors were killed. Oh my God. Must have been pretty big. Yeah, including their leader, Perez. Oh, it's like the El Capitana. Yes. Is he the one who had the, he said we'll get out of this. No.

The good news, go. No, that was another go. So the death of their team captain, as well as a woman called Lilliana Methal, who had nursed all of the injured, was really discouraging and disheartening. Also Liliana was the only woman who had survived. The fuselage was completely buried in snow, and they had to break a hole in the roof to get ventilation so they didn't suffocate.

Nando talks about it in this documentary I was watching. He was sort of saying like, or one of them, another one actually said like he felt that he was covered in snow and he felt kind of happy because at least it was over. Right. Because you've got like three minutes under snow and then you'll suffocate. Right. Maybe not even. So, and Nando was sort of saying, yeah, a lot of them had kind of resigned to it. Like, well, we're dead. And he was the one who he got like some sort of metal rod or something and like stuck it through the... An inanimate carbon rod.

Rod with your hair out again. How does he do it? Yes. He like pierced a hole to let some air in, some ventilation. Insane. So outside of the aircraft was this furious blizzard, which forced them to stay cramped in the fuselage for a few days to wait out the weather. With no food and no hope of rescue, they had to come up with a plan. So before the avalanche, a few of the survivors

became insistent that their only way of survival would be to climb over the mountains and search for help. Because of the co-pilot's dying statement that the aircraft had passed a certain point, the group believed that the countryside of Chile was just a few kilometers away to the west. So they're like, we're not far. They were actually more than 89 kilometers or 55 miles to the east deep in the Andes. In the first few weeks since the crash they tried to explore their immediate vicinity but found that they struggled with altitude sickness, dehydration, snow blindness and malnourishment as well as below freezing temperatures overnight.

They decided that a few people would go to see if they could find help. So Roberta Kinesa, the, the 19 year old medical student, was joined by Numa Takati, Antonio, Antonio Visentin and Nando Parado. And they waited seven days for the temperature to get slightly warmer before they headed off. They believed Chile was to the west, but blocking their path was this gigantic mountain so

they decided to head east hoping to be able to you turn at some point and move west like a longer route same like the plane I guess like we'll go a different we'll go a longer way but maybe a safer way so on the 15th of November after several hours walking east wait so the how long is it a month going now? It was like 17 days. Oh, it was 13 days of Friday, 13th, wasn't it? Yep, so it's been a month now, yep. Just over.

So after several hours of walking east, the group found the largely intact tail section of the aircraft. Oh. Containing the galley, and it was about 1.6K's east and downhill of the fuselage. One amazing is taking a few hours to walk. 1.6K's. Yeah, wow. One mile. Yeah, and I mean it's downhill so that's fast.

Yeah, that's fast, wow. Inside and nearby they found luggage containing a box of chocolates, three meat patties, a bottle of rum, cigarettes, extra clothes, comic books, a little bit of medicine, a camera, and a two-way radio. Wow, how exciting would it have been if we had found that. A camera using comic books. The group decided to camp that night inside the tail section. They built a little fire and stayed up late, reading comic books. That would have been a nice little night out for them.

Finally some distractions. So they got fire going. Yeah, it seems like they did. Because I mean, at least there was enough of the tail section for some sort of coverage, so maybe they were able to. The bid that you said you didn't want to talk about too much before was that they're meeting it, other people. Yeah.

So that did happen. They've started that by now. Yes. And they're taking some of that with them. That being the. And they've started that one now. Yes. And are they taking some of that with them? That being the... Not on this track, I don't think. Right, so they're not planning on keeping on going. They're sort of just trying to see what's out there.

Yeah, exactly. So they haven't gone too far. But yes, they are. Not, okay, not all of them. Eight, they're... This is a hard thing as well. They know each other. Yeah.

I mean, not that it would be any better if it was strangers, but does feel a bit weird if you know someone, but yeah, so not all of them did, but quite a few of them did. And that's another thing too. And I don't fully understand it myself, but at a higher altitude, your calorie intake needs to be a lot more. Right. at a higher altitude, your calorie intake needs to be a lot more. Right. So if they're stuck in high altitude and they're not eating anything, they're like dying faster.

Right. So they've got to put something and that's why they were like after a couple of days, they were already struggling. Right. So because they've been gone for a month and there's no other food. Yeah. They'd all be dead otherwise. There's no animals.

There's no vegetation. There's they just had some dates. Yeah. And they've probably gone through all the dates and the almonds. Yeah. But they've just found some new food. Yeah, a little bit. Not heaps, but you know, I mean, it would still be really exciting.

Well, they're only eight dead people, didn't they? They didn't kill anyone. No, they didn't kill anyone. They just went and got the bodies. And so that's something that they quite adamant about now. It's not cannibalism, but I've forgotten the word that it is for just like eating human. Right. But it's that they didn't kill.

So it's cannibalism when you murder someone to eat them right? Yeah, you killed for the purpose of eating. So they didn't do that. I don't think anyone's holding anything against them for that. No, but I mean people keep the main thing that comes up when you Google this story is like cannibalism. Right, I mean, that's what I said as well. And I don't know if this has any, they are all deeply Catholic, aren't they?

Yes, and so there was a lot of, I cannot stress how much of a conversation there was around it, and why a lot of them refused to, because it was a sin, they'd go to hell if they did do that. But then the thing that sort of turned a few of them around was someone likened it to the Eucharist, which is the body of Christ. So. Right, OK.

Yeah, it was definitely not an easy decision that they made. I don't think that sin ever came up in school for me. Yeah. So it's a sin to eat. Is well like lying to your parents or stealing a dollar from mum's wallet or something? Covering wives. Yeah, covering wives. Sheldonot. Milk your friends donkey. I think so. Yeah, I was going to say tax fraud, but that is definitely one. Yeah, there's someone about something about, yeah, I forget what I wouldn't be milking a donkey, but it was something about your neighbor's cow or something. It's been a little while, but yeah, but I never, it never came up. So it's interesting that they knew that to be a city. Yeah, yeah, yeah. and a lot of them were like, no, I absolutely won't do it. Yeah, that's a nice one.

So some didn't, some did. But yeah, so after they found the tail, they continued east the next morning, and on the second night of the expedition, which was their first night sleeping outside, they nearly froze to death. So after some debate the next morning, they decided that it would be wiser to return to the tail and remove the aircraft's batteries and bring them back to the fuselage so they might be able to power up the radio and make an SOS call Like we found some batteries. It's good So they go back to the tail only to figure out that the batteries are too heavy for them to carry back to the fuselage

They're like 25 kilos each or something. Right. It's a lot You could probably press that easy. No, that's not true. I went to the gym today and I heard a lot. But also I couldn't carry that through snow with no food. Can you just push it up here with your legs? Oh yeah, no, that's true. Yeah, leg press it up. And how do I move Dave? Someone pushes you. Someone leg presses you. Okay. It's a leg press chain. Okay, so the whole surviving crew is there together? No, only four of them are right. So most people have stayed back at the fuselage just these four guys had had it all. Is there and there is there any reason why they can't just make a new camp at the

tail? It's probably not big enough. So unknown to any of the team members, the aircraft's electrical system used 115 volt batteries while the battery they'd located produced 24 volts. So it was never going to work anyway, but it was a nice idea. So they went back and forth in the freezing cold to try and get the radio to work and to signal for help but to no avail. In this time, two more of the survivors had died, both from gangrene due to their infected wounds and Numa Takati who had been on that journey to the tale with them died on the 11th of December which was

day 60. Another month has gone by. Holy shit, this is a wild story, okay. Day 60 he passed away most likely due to starvation because he'd refused all along to eat any of the human remains So when he died he was 25 kilos Oh my god 25, my god 55 pounds See he must have been Absolutely wasting away because he's

Expending all that energy going back and forth to the tail Yep and not eating anything Not eating bad things So tough Yeah Wow It's awful But it'll mean in his mind he's going to everlasting paradise now.

So yeah, yeah, yeah, because he didn't that that's not about little carrot to have. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, any of them surviving at all is incredible. And I haven't read any stories about it being like there was no sort of arguing, they seemed to work really well together and you know everybody had a good time. Yeah and before they were heading off on these sort of expeditions and stuff other people would take on their share of work around the camp so they could save their energy and stuff. So I mean I don't know, I can't imagine it would be a pleasant experience, but it seems like they worked pretty well together. Most weight loss programs are short-term fixes, but managing your weight needs a long-term solution.

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blocking their way to the west. They thought that they'd climbed this peak to the west and be able to see the green fields of Chile but all along they had the wrong idea of their location. of Chile, but all along they had the wrong idea of their location. So Kinesa says, when we got to the top we realised we were much further from safety than we thought. So we decided to send Tin Tin back down to the plain to tell them we had headed south, and so our food supplies would last longer between the two of us. So they took his spare clothes and food and said, you go back. We were at 15,000 feet and the temperature was 10 below zero.

Unknown to the, this is, this is going to break you, Matt. Unknown to the people on board or to the rescuers, the flight had crashed about 21 kilometers east from hotel Termas, which was an abandoned resort and hot spring that might have provided limited shelter. A hot spring? A hot spring. A hot spring.

A hot spring. But. This, because that broke me when I read it, but then in the, a docker I was watching, a mountain near said that it was a really brutal trek to the hotel and that it was on the other side of a really wide river. So chances are they wouldn't have been able to get to it anywhere. But if they got there, it had a world famous buffet.

No, it's like an abandoned, it's just a building. It would have been a kind of useless for food or whatever, but at least it would have been a bit of shelter. If they could have just crashed slightly, just the lack of where they landed. Yeah, but they didn't know where they were. So even if someone was aware of that hotel existing, you think you're somewhere else to where you are.

So who knows? So you say they didn't have any mountaineering gear, but they also had never seen snow. So they had, like, they would have just been figuring it out as they went. Yeah. It's a pretty specialized kind of skill just to be, I'm useless with hearts, but I'm guessing that's pretty high up.

Yeah, I'm pretty useless as well, but it does seem high, doesn't it? And when it's high in the Andes, it's way higher than anything in Australia. Oh, absolutely. Way high. And you're at high altitude, which means breathing is really hard. So Nando was sort of talking about it as like, you take five breaths and then take one step. And it's just so slow. And imagine getting to the top of that hill and being like all right on the other side of that it's going to be green and sunshine. You get them you're like oh

there's more of this everywhere. Yeah. That had break that had break. Yeah. I know. So yeah so they were running out of food, so Tintin agreed to return to the crash site. The return was entirely downhill, and using one of the seats from the aircraft as a makeshift sleigh, I read that he returned to the crash site in one hour. They'd been hiking for three days,

and he just slid back down in an hour. Wow. Like, that's how not very far they'd made it, I guess. The people back at the plane could watch them. They watched them for a few days. Just all these little dots in the distance. That's them. Like when Homer tries to climb the murder horn,

and he's just sucking down oxygen and then it zooms out and he's on the, 20 meters above Mars. Yeah. on the event when you made this a buff pass. Yeah. So over the next 10 days, Nando and Roberto trekked about 38 kilometers, 61 miles, hoping to seek help. Each night they slept in a sleeping bag that one of the men

had made out of insulation from the rear of the fuselage, sewn together with copper wire and they credit that with like keeping them alive. Right. They would like huddle in together and sleep in there and it would keep them you know relatively warm. Did you say 30 some kilometers, 60 miles? Oh no, other way around. 38 miles, 61 kilometers. Oh sorry, yep. No, thank you. So gradually there appeared more and more signs of human presence first some evidence of camping and finally on the ninth day some cows So they're like we're getting close. We got the good son. They're not normally up the top of mountains. No, so we must have moved down Also, do you have a knife I can kill that cow?

Also, do you have a knife? I can kill that cow. Okay, that would be cheese. I love cows. It is a love big headed animals. Love them. I love their big eyes. I love big sturdy animals in my favor. I love all the bovines. I like how they chew. Yeah. Love it. Love cows. Love buffaloes of bison. Yeah. Love the highland coos, love yaks. Yep. Just a big bovine head.

The whole time we were in the UK, I thought you were just saying cow's funny when you'd say the hulan kooz. I was like, that is cute, how he says it. Yeah, I kind of imagine is that how that started? No idea, yeah. How do you say it? They got those great fringe and those cool horns, they're just the how that started. No idea, yeah. How do you say it? They got these great fringe and they're just cool horns. They're just the best looking things.

They're so good. What do you reckon? Oh, they're the best looking cows there are. Yeah, I think they've got to be right up to the next one. Yeah, they're the Clyde'sdale of the Cow Ward. No, Dave, an amazing analogy, yes. They are the Clyde'sdale of the Cow Ward. I think we can all agree.

So one night as they gathered wood to build a fire, one of them saw three men on horseback on the other side of the river. Perrato called out to them, but the noise of the river made it impossible to communicate, very wide river. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. One of the men across the river saw Perrato

and Kinesa and called back tomorrow. So the next day the man returned, and again, they couldn't understand each other, they couldn't hear each other. So he scribbled a note, the man on the other side of the river, scribbled a note,

attached it and a pencil to a rock with some string and threw it across the river. So Perrata replied, this is a message you wrote. I come from a plane that fell in the mountains. I am Uruguayan. We've been walking for 10 days. I have a wounded friend up there. In the plane, there are still 14 injured people. We have to get out from here quickly and we don't know how. We don't have any food. We are weak. When are you going to come fetch us? Please, we cannot even walk. Where are we? So this man, his name

was Sergio Catalan, and he read the note, gave them the sign that he understood, and then he... Shuckers. Shuckers, bro. Then Nando, in talking about this, got emotional at this point. He said, he threw bread and cheese across. Just a bit like just what he had on him. I would get emotional if you gave me bread and cheese right now. Let alone after nearly three months in the andies. Oh my god, what a moment. So then I went sometimes this audio podcast you think, Jesus, my mouth was a gabe. A gau A gog, a gaipe. I was a gog. My mouth was a gaipe. So Sergio then rode on horseback westward for 10 hours to bring help. He rode for 10 hours. Along his journey, he passed another guy on a horse and asked him to collect

the men and take them to the nearest town, which was still pretty far away While he continued on to find help for the rest of the survivors still on the mountain. So the just the chances I'm running into these horse riders. Yeah, because they're in the middle of nowhere. Oh man. So they were Artieros, which is like they're like I think from my understanding, like transporting stuff via mule or horse. So they're kind of out in a pretty, yeah. There's no towns around. So the fact that they came across each other is amazing.

So I think there was like, what I heard was six or seven like military men on horseback ended up going out and finding Perado and Kinesa and they brought them into the nearest town where they were fed and given a bed and allowed to rest. They'd hiked like I said about 38 us, what do we say, 438 Ks? 38 miles. 38 miles. 38 miles. 38 miles. 38 miles.

38 miles. 38 miles. 38 miles. 38 miles., miles over 10 days. I've read there's a couple of different numbers that come up with how far they'd hiked, but regardless, it was very far. Very far in good conditions. And incredibly impressive, yeah. Since the plane crash, Kinesa had lost almost half his body weight about 44 kilos.

He's only a 19-year-old kid. He's now weighing 40ish kilos. On the afternoon of the 22nd December 1972, 72 days after the crash, two helicopters carrying search and rescue personnel reached the survivors. I think Nando had to go with them to try and help them find the spot because he's showing them on maps and they're like, I don't think that can be right. That place doesn't exist. The steep terrain only permitted the pilot to touch down with a single skid. There was just such a terrible terrain.

Due to the altitude and weight limit, the two helicopters were able to only take half of the survivors. Imagine. So four members of the search and rescue team volunteered to stay with the 7 survivors remaining on the mountain, so they stayed for one more night. So the survivors slept for a final night in the fuselage with the search and rescue party. The second flight of helicopters arrived the following morning at Daybreak. They carried the remaining survivors to hospitals in Santiago for evaluation. 16 of the 45 passengers were rescued.

Amazing, oh that's so great. Isn't that incredible? I can't believe I assumed it was going to be a week and a half. 72 days. 72 days. That is mind blowing. Yeah. It's wild. So the survivors were treated at hospital for a variety of conditions, including altitude sickness, dehydration, frostbite, broken bones, scurvy and malnutrition. I mean, scurvy. Frostbite, we are, because I mean they're not getting any vitamins, are they? Yeah, they've just got, they've picked up whatever, what do you want? We got it all. Yeah.

We're not going to test you. You've just got the lot. Yeah, we're just going to fix ya. Yeah, here's a bit of everything I'm just gonna give you a little saline drip to start Yeah, and then we'll just see how we go from here. Benicillin cocaine. Yeah banana. What do you want? What do you need? You can have anything. I want a milkshake See, oh fuck yeah, so yeah 16 of them have have survived against all odds Um, I've written a very dramatic line here because

nothing good can happen for these people. I mean they just got rescued so it is good but rumours started to swell that they'd killed members of the party to eat. These rumours of cannibalism. So all of them had had like a they all confessed to a priest who was like, I think given the circumstances, you're fine, you're forgiven, you're still gonna go to heaven to war again. Thank God that they got like some priest who's really by the book, he goes, no, honestly, sorry,

but Jesus wouldn't have wanted you to have lived through that. Even if it was eating... Maybe there's a reason you're on that plane. Oh yeah, there would be priests out there like that, but yeah, you like to think a good priest. Yeah. There is some rules there to be bent. And also time and place priests. Yeah. All right. You think in your head you monsters, but give them a break. I think it's um, yeah, well, it's great. I mean mean what a weight that would have been on some of them so it would have been such a relief

to hear a priest say no you're right absolutely but yeah so these rumors started to swell even though they they kind of discussed that they would tell their families their immediate families but that they wouldn't really talk about it publicly because of how people would react. I don't know, did they want to spoil the film? Yeah exactly which they were like well this is inevitable. But because all these rumors had started to swirl and people were being accused of cannibalism and everyone was being accused of it. Imagine it's like give us a fucking break.

Have we not been able to do it now? People suck. Like we see some of them showed the best, just like how the human spirit, and then the people at home were just sitting back on the couch going, I wouldn't have done that. Fuck off, idiot. Yeah. I know you can't judge people who have gone through

something like that in any way. No way. So they had to hold a press conference, the 28th of December. This is not long after they'd been saved. Oh, I'm hoping record deal. They recounted the events of the past 72 days. And after explaining their experience

and the pact that the group had made, public scrutiny subsided, and the families of the deceased were very understanding, which is pretty amazing too that they were like we get it Yeah, well, yeah, I mean it just as much as you say you can't judge the survivors You can't judge the family of those who died But the glass half full thing would be like well, it's nice that I had cared even though they Passed that they were able to help these other people live, but GZ, you're going to be a big person to be thinking like that. Yeah, you'd get there eventually maybe, but that wouldn't be your first thought.

No, but at the same time, they would have already assumed everyone died as well. Like not one thing in 72 days later than any survivors. No, absolutely not. Like, there was interviews with some of the family members who were like, I knew in my heart they were gone. Right. Because Nando, so he was there with his mother and sister, and his other sister is interviewed and she was like, I knew they were gone.

So she just lost brother sister mum in her head. Yes. So then for her brother to come home, she was huge, you know. And what a name as well, Nando. Nando, Fernando. Oh, that makes sense. That's what I think. He's great.

So in a lovely kind of twist that isn't always the case in these kind of awful life-threatening situations, the survivors are all still in contact. And in his book Roberto Canessa wrote, we're trying to get together every December 22nd, the day of the rescue. And every year there's a rugby match in Chile to honour in honour of the one that was cancelled, because obviously they didn't turn up for their game. No one talks about that. They lost their points. The other people just got an easy four points that we... Ah, what? Ridiculous.

Ridiculous. So yeah, they have... they all catch up. He says, my children went to school with the nieces and nephews of those that died and I think that is a very good healing process, much better than going to psychiatrists. Oh, I reckon you probably should seek some... You did, mate. Do a bit about it. Bit about it. It's fine. Oh, I reckon you probably should seek some... Do a bit of... Bit of both is fine. Yeah, bit of healing together, great.

Bit of healing in a psychiatrist office, always, also very good. But yeah, he said we felt proud that we'd managed to heal by ourselves. So the story's been told in several books, including the one I mentioned before, by Pee's Paul Reed, a live, including the one I mentioned before by Piers Paul Reed, a live, the story of the Andy Survivor.

It's based on interviews of the survivors and their families and was a critical success. It's still very popular and it was made into a film in 1993, narrated by John Melkovich and starring Ethan Hawke. Ethan Hawke plays Nando. Oh, great. I've got to watch that. And Nando Parado served as a technical advisor on the film. Brendan Fraser doesn't have an opiate, is he? Sadly no.

But 11 of the survivors visited the set during the production, which is pretty cute. Can we add Abba's Fernando into our musical version? Yes. Thank you Hey, did that film ever get released on Montevideo? Straight to Montevideo Couple more books as well 34 years after rescue, Nando Parada published the book Miracle in the Andes, which is the one that you're listening to the audiobook. Yes, it's a good audio. He does the intro and then the an actor reads the rest of it. Gotcha.

But he does it sort of the first chapter. He's beautiful accent. He does. He sets the scene. He's got a beautiful voice and he just seems very cool. And then Roberto Canessa also wrote a book that came out in 2016. So a lot of the, when you Google it now, a lot of the articles and stuff you'll find are interviews with him about his book. And his book was called, I Had to Survive, How a Plain Crash in the And is Inspired

by Calling to Save Lives. So in his book, he recalls how the plane crash helped him learn many About Survival, and how His Time in the Mountains Helped Renew His Motivation to Become a Doctor. He's like a pediatric... pediatric something now. Would've been good if I remembered. Hey, I'm impressed by a pediatric. Yeah. What does that mean? That's feet. Kids. Kids fate. Kids. Kids, kids, fate, though. Kids, fate.

And he saves those kids, mate. Last year Eduardo Stroch wrote, out of the silence after the crash, this was four decades after the tragedy, a climber discovered his wallet, near the memorialized crash site, and returned it to him, a gesture that compelled him to finally break the silence of the mountains.

Someone found his wallet. Wow. Amazing. Sent it back to him and shop close 30 years ago. Oh, come on. Come on. He's asking the new shop. This is a. Do you know who I am?

Do you know what I've been through? Yeah, a little fun fact. It's a heartwarming fact. So in 2007, the Chilean Ariero Sergio, who was the one who rode for 10 hours to get help for them. He's also here. He was interviewed on Chilean Ariero Sergio, who was the one who rode for 10 hours to get help for them. He's also here, are they good? He was interviewed on Chilean television during which he revealed that he had... Athletic...

Osteoarthritis. Osteoarthritis. Okay. Any's hip. And Robert Roberto Canessa, who had become a doctor and other survivors raised funds to pay for a hip replacement operation. Isn't that nice? I got him all this years ago. I think that is so great.

But in my head, you go through that. Those 14 people, there should be some sort of world thing where everyone... They never have to work. They just don't have to work. They don't have to do anything. What do you want? You've worked hard. You've done a lifetime of work in 72 days You can you choose your life and we'll give you a little what do you want a little paddock? We'll give you a What do you want you got it?

I never fly again. I don't I don't know after these mean after these two episodes I'm thinking whether I'll fly again. Yeah. I Yeah, I just it's the kind of thing. I just don't know how I'd react to that because I enjoy flying so much now It's hard enough though. I imagine it would take some of the fun out of it. Yeah Maybe I probably would never ski again And I'll never ski before so it would bother you not the plane crash part although I mean the plane crash only lasted a few minutes you know the snow issue was 72 days you never you never sleep in a few so large in the wilderness again I love the word fuselage that's why I wanted to say it so much

and I enjoyed it every time I should say I forgot to mention as well this has been suggested by quite a lot of people so a shout forgot to mention as well, this has been suggested by quite a lot of people, so I'll shout out to them as well, from Paulie to Silva, Esther Stewart, Nathan El, Tate Evans, Rochelle Griffith, Seba, Marcio, Antonio Daly and Carol Duval have all suggested this topic. Great suggestion, Arch, yeah. It's the, there was a point early on where I'm like, I'm not feeling very good. But in the end, it's what a,

what a amazing, trumpet story. It's got to be one of the great survival stories. It's amazing. It's pretty amazing. Someone was saying that like, you know, a few people on there, and like we said, when the Avalanche hit and stuff,

a few were sort of resigned to just like let me die and I don't blame them at all but others were sort of saying some people like Nando and Roberto who were really like driven and Nando just wanted to get home to his dad. Yes, he says that a lot in the book and that's a bit that he reads out is that when he's sister died he nearly gave up. But then he heard a voice saying, no, you will survive. Wow. And he made a promise, I will see my dad again.

And that he just kept thinking about, is that? He was in a coma for three days. Yeah. At no point did anybody perform surgery on his head and he was the one who hiked out. Like that's amazing. Oh, yes. Same guy. Same guy. So his brain's still throbbing at his head and he was the one who hiked out. That's amazing. Oh, yes. Same guy. Same guy.

So his brain's still throbbing at his head. I guess. Well, you know, the book he talks about after a couple of weeks, he's like, the bones started to form together again. No. No. But not properly. No, not properly.

Yeah, but instead of like slow-mo Wolverine. Yeah. He doesn't have a weird head now from the docker. The docker was also a very bad quality. Right. I couldn't see you that well. But like, I moe Wolverine. Yeah, he doesn't have a weird head now from the docker. The docker was also a very bad quality, so I couldn't see that well. But like I've got no idea, like when did he go to Hossful when he get back and they like have to re, I don't know, I guess.

Dress it, that's amazing. And then other, I mean, it's the hardest bit to listen to, and that's sort of why I stopped for a little bit. This is last week is, this guy's with like intestines hanging out and stuff like that. Yeah, of course. You know what? That guy was one of the biggest troopers of all.

He just was like, get clear in our chairs, left and right. He's fucking guts are hanging out. Yeah, amazing. He had like a bit of a trappin' alignment. He pulled it out and some guts came out and he just went to help. I'm the kind of guy, I'm like, oh, I've got a paper can't. I don't know about this. I'll never touch paper again.

Yeah, I'm done. I wonder, yeah, because they're also, it's had such strong religion, religious beliefs. Yeah, I imagine it's probably the kind of thing that would only strengthen that, right? I mean, it would be a handy thing to get you through it, potentially, belief in a higher power, and that sort of stuff. But then you get through, you get through you like well that confirms it

God is real and God got me through this. I will Maybe other people would be like well God would not have put anyone through this Exactly what I would do that. Why would you do that to anyone? I know it's it's a really tough one I imagine yeah, would you probably go one of the two at all somewhere between. So I'm giving you three potential options. Yeah take a pick listeners. Fantasy report. Fantastic report. Fantastic story. Yeah, crazy. Inspiring and also horrifying. So so amazing. Thank you to the patrons who voted on that topic as well It was a very tight race for a few days. There was another topic that was

Clearly at front and then the race got a lot tighter and then this one took over by one vote So to win by one with 30 people not voting. It's a no wow pretty amazing. Huh? I mean not to say I mean if you don't want to vote that's fine. Oh, yes, you don't have to. Yes, you don't have to. But I think the right choice, because that is a tale for the ages. Do you want to hear a little bit of the history of WIFR the 13th is? I don't know if it's interesting. Well, I haven't read it yet. Okay. Well, yeah, go on then.

This is from a little website called Wikipedia. Oh, yeah. I probably should have found one. They're going on a fair bit But it says it's it's unclear basically But according to folklore historian Donald Dossi the unlucky nature of the number 13 originated with a Norse myth About 12 gods having a dinner party in Valhalla the tricks to God Loki who was not invited arrived as the 13th guest and arranged for To shoot Balda With a mistletoe tipped arrowed

This from Dossi Balda died and the whole earth got dark the whole earth mourned It was a bad unlucky day this major event in North mythology caused the number 13 to be considered unlucky Right because of Loki. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I should have checked if I was interesting first, but it was hard. It's hard to find a time to just stop and read an article while Jess, you were telling such a fascinating story. So I thought I wouldn't do that, but next time I will. Yeah, just go for it.

I'll just check out for a bit Hey, that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show feel free to edit out that Friday the 13th section My it'll it down. Okay So this is the fact quote or question section. It's got a little jingle goes fact quote or question Fuck Dave you nearly forgot. I always remember the ding yeah I just wanted to worry about a little bit. The way this works is if you support us at patreon.com. So you go on pod on the Sydney Sharnberg Docks Memorial Edition level. You get to offer us a factor quote or a question.

You also get to vote in topics like Jess's topic today. It was voted on by the Sydney Sharnberg Patrons. You also get three bonus episodes a month. You get them on an even lower level as well. I believe D.B. Cooper, dream boat Cooper level, I believe so. But I mean, it's all written out pretty clearly on patreon.com such to go on pod. So the fact quote a question section, we go through a few each week. This first one comes from Elliot Crosby McCulloch or McCulloch and Elliot's offered us a fact. He's also given himself the title of junior assistant

to the live show iPad. That's very handy to have. Is that maybe, once he did he hand us an iPad or something? Potentially, but maybe it's just an aspirational title. We do often read from an iPad live show. There are two iPads too, sorry to break. So that's why we need someone with an extra pair of hands.

One day maybe I'll even get one of these tablets that you get through all of these. And then we'll have three to choose from. Instead of precariously balancing a laptop on your knees. So this one is a fact from Elliott. Elliott's fact goes like this. The year 2000 is not the last we'll see for date, roll over bugs. There's another Jew in 2038, when the Unix Epoch time stamp, a number

counting seconds from 0101 1970, used to keep track of the date and time in Unix based systems. So that's the first of January 1970. We'll get too large to be stored in 32 bit unsigned integers. This is a fun fact. I shouldn't say Jess can tell if it's fun or not. Is it like a second Y2K? Yeah. At this point, any vulnerable system which has not been upgraded will suddenly think it's the 70s again, which is cool because we'll be due for another revival of fled trousers. But don't worry, the only sort of systems vulnerable will be

older physical devices, such as those in factories, medical and the military. Few. Oh god. That's a sort of new launches or. I mean, I don't want to worry too much about it because Y2K was, you know, a bit of a flop. Well, wasn't a flop because they, I mean, I did the report on a camera, but I feel like that was just because the scientists were aware

of it and they did a bunch of work. Lady up to it. Yeah. So I probably do it again if we're already aware now. Yeah, well, we've got people like Elliot on the case. Yeah, thank God. Thank you, Elliot, for the work you're doing. We assume you're working around the clock fixing that.

I think he's a kind of guy who trust with the iPad as well. Yeah, I would too Oh even more so now a hundred percent. I reckon I'd come back with like a spoiler on it or something He'd update that iPad real good And I've had the spoiler Thank you so much for that fact Elliot the next one comes from Anna Cox and Anna's given herself a title of Chief Chuckler of the podcast. Ooh, move over, Jess.

Yeah, I'm a little offended, Anna, but I'm assuming if you give yourself that title, you have an amazing trouble. And Anna's a-sister question. Hello, Matt, Jess and Dave. My housemates and I have been taking it in turn to plan weekly house activities for each other during lockdown. Trying to keep those positives vibes high. This is sort of a kill to birds with one stone question because I'm keen to hear your

answers but I also need new ideas. It would be fair to say that this started as a fun house thing and has become a competitive and very extra, which I'm not at all opposed to. If you had to plan the perfect lockdown day or lockdown activity for the other two, what would it involve? If you don't get to this before the end of lockdown, then what a fun throwback. Thanks guys. Well, for us, lockdowns make a real comeback here in Melbourne. Yeah. Victoria's been naughty. So we're not allowed to do anything anymore.

What would I do for you guys? I reckon we'd have a pie making, Sesh for days. Oh my God, you can't tease those, is this real? Can we do it? Yeah, I can make a pie. I can make an apple pie. Ah, I'll be in for that too.

Yeah, I can do that. A bit of puff pastry. Yeah. Oh, puff me up For Matt we'd have with home brew. Oh, oh that'll be fun. And then we'd have home brew and pie Fantasy I was just a a real quick turnaround home brew. I love it Just saw this beer tastes a bit a bit young and then we'd watch a Brendan Fraser movie. Oh, what a day. There you go, that's my day.

All right. Top that, Dickheads. No, I think I'll be involved in the pie thing as well. What do we do for Jess? We're going to jump on my idea. Get your own. Oh, we're going to do three weeks and we're okay. Well, all right, for Dave, I want to make it a custom and blueberry pie making day.

Still pies, yeah. Yeah, thanks for the pleasure. There's all I got. Yeah, but also say it's your personality. Wait, no, last week you said I was reading. Chocolate ice cream. Yeah, chocolate ice cream. Oh, I love chocolate ice cream. It's going to be from chocolate ice cream phase. Loving it. Lizzie. So we're going to make some homemade ice cream. And I'm going to make it into an afogado or whatever Jess said. Oh, yes, recently. Was that what we talked about last night on Patreon, bonus episode? Coffee shop with ice cream.

And for you Jess, of course, I know you're interest very well. Just trying to think what kind of hashtags you've created on your social media. I think what we do is we just look and... Yeah, I haven't done that for a while because I can't lurk with anything. Damn it, damn the social distancing, ruining a good hashtag. Let's go to come back. I think what we talked about last night off pod was that we've got a shared love for house hunting TV shows. House Hunters International. Get me a box set of that and just leave me alone? What I would add somehow, I was thinking I'd try and make it interactive somehow.

Maybe by, I'd give you three places to choose from and then you can pick your own home somehow. Oh, love that. Maybe I'd convert three of our lockdown rooms into different apartments and then you can pick one and then you get to stay in it for the night. Oh my God, man. This is amazing. Yeah, and Dave, we do a pie. And we're a pie and pie row.

Oh, yes. We finished it over the wall row. All right, Dave, your turn. All right. Well, I give Matt that makeover row. We've always talked about giving him. Yeah. I'm over you.

So we do a bit of queer eye makeover style we've always talked about giving him. Yeah, I'm over you. So we do a bit of queer eye makeover style for Matt. Yeah. A lot of fun. For Jess I'd organize a plant growing competition. This is actually it's longer than a day but we start on the day. Everyone gets some seeds or a bulb and a small patch of dirt in a What do you call these vessels a pot? What do you call this vessel here boy? And then you can choose any bowl any fertilizer you like and then over the next five weeks who it whoever's grows the most Wins so it's a bit of a competition and then at the end of the day we watch for me

My fourth every episode at the Simpsons ever Brilliant. Yes, they still the same ones that you add at your was it your 25th birthday? Yes, they'd be similar but I would On a technicality I actually played for then but for the fifth episode I'd play who shot mr Burns part one and two as one yep great, yep. As one. Yep. One or the other three for new listeners? A Femino Troy? Kate Fier, Lema of Troy, Homer, versus the 18th Amendment,

the Beer Barron episode. Ah. And Marge versus the Monorail. Right, classic. Great, good episode. Plus, but I love. What tank Scorpio's episode? Are you only moved twice.

Yeah, that's a good one. That's great. I feel like I played that as well. Yeah, I feel like you might have. Maybe I played five. Maybe you didn't have lemon of Troy after all. Maybe I do love it. So good.

Yeah, that's what they're, I think they're my two favorites. But I love who shot Mr. Burns part one and two because it shows off the entire town. Right. They're all in good form. Yeah, okay. So you get a bit of everyone. That's nice. Thank you so much for that question. I don't know if yeah. I probably didn't help. Let us know if that inspires anything in you. Basically, make a pie. She'll not make a pie. Yeah. The next one comes from Zach Dobran, who's given himself the title of Remaining the Day 1 reference aficionado of the podcast.

Day 1. Day 1. What was that about again? I said day 1. I just said day 1. What episode was that? Day 1. Day 1.

But it was funny because I said, I admitted later that episode that I wasn't sure what. My brain, I just had a brain fade. And then, but we had messages of people saying, oh, I understood what you meant. And they had different people had different interpretations of it, which was pretty, pretty fun. Wow. I can't even remember what it is. That's like an art day one.

Anyway, Zach has, I also got a question. Have you all ever considered doing reports about yourself, stupid old studios or the pot itself, perhaps as a Patreon bonus? For those who have been listening to you for quite some time, I'm sure may find some of these topics very interesting. I think we, I think a few people have asked and we always assumed to self-indulge and even for us. Is that kind of the... Yeah, I think you always would find it just a bit too...

A bit too inside the podcast studio. I'd just find it boring. Yeah. And, yeah, I think... We've told the origin story of the podcast on the podcast a few times. And I think in Q&A bonus episodes, we've answered it a little bit as well of how we met. Yeah, and I'm sure... Why I've thought that interesting.

I don't have much to add. I'm saving it for a book, and I'm not giving this shit away for free. Okay. I'm also, I'm pretty sure I've told the origin story of Super Doll Studios on interviews or something. Yeah. You'd be out of Google, and I'm sure I've talked about it somewhere. But I mean, we have like like five thousand topics in the hat And they're all more interesting than us

Play more interesting than us, but yeah, I mean if if like enough people want I do feel like that's Zach is very as nice as it is that you're interested I feel like you might be in the minority of people who would really be short like there's not that much to tell is there Well, I live for quite a few centuries. That's right. A few, you could talk about my time, you know, when I was sitting next to Lincoln in that booth. Yeah, and the fourth theatre. Just went to the toilet at the right time. Yeah, I duck to pick up a penny. Thank goodness. We did once do an episode

where we actually took a biography of someone else who pretended it was us and we had to guess who it was. Yeah, that was sort of our way of sort of doing that as an episode, whilst actually telling interesting people's life stories. And we did do an episode on Nick Mason as well. Yeah, that's true. He is also again, I'd say. More interesting. Yes, for sure.

Just being a tram driver instantly. Cool job. Cool job. Thank you so much for the question, those act. I mean, I'm happy to be proved wrong. Also very happy to talk about myself. If you have a bump into me somewhere, I'll answer all of your questions.

Yeah. Well, not all all your questions. Yeah. Well, not all your questions. I'm not a touristly KG. Yeah, I'm actually pretty KG as well. Yeah, I'm for private. I'm a secretive. I'm a secretive. You're a spy.

I'm a spy. Finally, the last one this week comes from Merriam Chikajji. Sorry about that, Merriiam Chikadjji. Sorry about that, Mariam. Mariam Chikadjji. Oh my goodness, David, just in case, Jumman, that's a great look at me. Mariam.

Chikradzi, Chikradzi, fantastic name. You should've said like that with the same. That's it. I don't think I could. Marium's given herself a title of the president of your only Georgian listeners club, probably. Do you have any other Georgian listeners? Is that would that be Georgia in America or the country of Georgia? Oh, okay.

Yeah, that's more obscure, isn't it? Yeah. Okay, yeah, that's that's more obscure isn't it? Yeah Marium has asked the question Hey, all my question is can you think of any backhanded compliments? You've gotten as a receiver of many myself. I'd like to know that I'm not the only one. Thanks. Oh man Yeah, I can't think of any but I'm sure I get them all the time funny for a girl I'm sure I get him all the time. Funny for a girl. That's a classic. Yeah, heaps all the time.

I don't remember them and I think that's very much on purpose. I get, I'm smarter than I seem sometimes. Oh, okay. Oh, I got one on YouTube recently. God, Dave, though, is weird looking as Jess and Matt make him sound. Do we make you sound weird looking? I constantly say he's weird looking. I thought you constantly say he's got beautiful eyes? I constantly say weird looking.

I thought you constantly say beautiful eyes. I just say pocket eyes. Yeah, but someone commented that and made me think, do they say that about me? Yes, Dave, I say that to your face. Do you really? I don't remember that either. Do you either listen to me?

No. Well, that's part of the problem, isn't it? I listen to you all the time. I'm always listening. And would you agree that she's funny for a girl? Yeah, I'd say she's funny for a human Wow, whoa. I girls far to say for a mammal. Yes a mammal Yeah, so that was a backhand economy because it is like he's not as weird as you like Yeah, so you're saying okay the bar was low Yeah, I've just gotten over that.

Gee, thanks. Yeah, that's while the people are still doing women, funniness, and women. That will never end. Let's hope it does. It's exhausting. That's a fucking nuts idea to me. Yeah. The, like, I'd say most of the best comedians in Australia are women, or at least a big chunk. Yeah, for sure.

You know, all the, yeah, it's a real bizarre one. And I just think it's normally people who don't see comedy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't find women funny. It's like, why can't women's last time you saw a comedy show of any type. Oh yeah, you know, Traylor. It's the best because it's often women saying I just don't find women that funny. What do you meet? You and your friends sit around and do what? Talk very seriously? Fuck that. Yeah, I'd imagine you've never laughed with a friend. I would assume that most people laugh the most when they're just mucking around with friends.

Totally. That's when I would laugh the most. Yeah. So, I wouldn't talk into you, you got not on the pot, I'd keep it pretty serious on here. I don't laugh here, Dave, shut up. Sorry, I don't know what that sound was, it came out of my mouth, I've never... I've never coughing. Can Can I have done that in front of you before? Well, that's, thanks so much for that question, Mariam. Yeah, that's the one that I think I'll probably have the most. They're all very similar ones, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah, you got, you, you're better than what I thought you would be for some reason.

At least, I mean, at least yours for a woman is not even your fault. They're saying for me, smarter than I make myself seem. Right? So it feels like that's really at me. What they're doing to you is actually just taking out all women. So that's not as much on you. It's all positive for you. You're funny for a woman because all women aren So that's not as much on you. It's all positive for your funny for a woman because all women aren't funny. But their minds all about me. They're not...

I'd much prefer it smart for a man. I'd say thank you so much. You're pretty smart for a man. Imagine! God, you're pretty smart for a man. Look at this one we can walk into gum. Lardy Duh. Yeah Backhand accomplishments are all a bit weird. Yeah, no, there was like oh Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much Funny for a woman Jess I'd say Probably the funniest person on this podcast. No. Top two. Yeah, top two for sure.

Yeah, for sure. And I appreciate you letting me be on here. The other thing we like to do on this podcast, it's like if you pay trons, just you know, we're coming with a bit of a game for this. Yes, I'm struggling a little bit with this one because it was such an incredibly bleak topic that I don't want to make anybody, I don't want to assign someone a tragic way to die, for example. So who, okay, maybe it's like what food they have.

To survive. Yeah. What do they find? Yeah. Like in the cabin, whatever. In the tail of the plane. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right, like in the cabin or whatever in the tail of the plane. Yeah, okay, okay All right, well should I kick her off? Please do yeah go for it

Is that still bleak because I have still been a plane crash? They never they oh what if this is like This is a deserted island deserted island and they find a plane The died of natural causes, old age. Yeah, no people were on board. No people were on board, they just left it there. They got a new plane. But it was a fully stocked plane.

Yes. So what food was on the plane? Great, okay. That makes sense to me for sure. And this is episode 245, what I'll be correct in saying that? You are correct. Oh, fantastic. Well, I'd love to thank Straight Off the bat from Chico in California, United States. Sierra and Juan Yriate. Fantastic. Sierra and Juan. Thank you so much for your support from Chico. And they found kidney beans.

Oh, my favorite bean. I love kidney beans. Butter beans. Oh, you're right. Well, that's Elizabeth. What do you get to remember about Elizabeth? What was it, man? Love's butter beans.

I like black beans. I like black beans. I like good to beans. Pinto the good beans. I think I love beans. I love beans. Navy beans. Who's the ones in baked beans? Yankee beans. I love beans. Navy beans. Who's the ones in baked beans?

Yankee beans. Yankee beans. I love my Yankee beans. So, have you been in any of you? No. Absolutely not. I like that I was dating an artist, I think, on Seinfeld. And he got six.

So, she had to start feeding. He was a bit older. And she was about to break up with him But he got sick so she stayed with him and she was feeding him which character Playing oh Yankee being and he was seeing that. Oh, she's thinking that to him as like he can't move and she's like spoon feeding him Beans I don't know what it means. It might mean something like a jingle from America or something Yeah, two our friends of California here here and why, and they might know it. Yeah.

I hope you like beans. But I think I think I think Yankee beans and Navy beans are the same kind of beans. Gotcha. I'm not just saying something weird out of nowhere. I'm not crazy. Yeah, so I think I think you make a lot of sense with it. I put kidney beans in most me. I kidney beans in the everyday. I love kidney beans so much Yeah, okay

There's yeah, they're real they're one of my main protein Sources are I can I'd also love to thank from North Hollywood Lala land So just thinking about someone requested we do an hour of talking about ourselves and then they'll get some like I I Got to be my first I have a card I'd record most days Just just a little fun. Thank you. Yeah, you are doing well. I mean we're sitting in my palace right now That is true. No, they're usually like two for something. So I get a couple and they last name. I do like having a card in that avocado and a wild

I love avocado and veg might so much. Yeah, that's good shit. So from North Hollywood, Lala Land in California, back to about California ends in the United States. Kayla Drescher. Oh, could any relation, could it be? I'm assuming yes. Kayla can't respond right now. so I'm gonna say yes.

From Hollywood, I mean, if she was from Flushing Queens, that would be, surely, Frances moves to Lollaland. Tinsletown for sure. Wow. Wow. So Kayla may have found some grandma Yeta aka Feta. Oh!

Great Charles is girlfriend. Oh, good about that every now and then. Oh, yes! That's one of the weirdest TV facts. That took me a while to get to it. I thought you meant the cheese. I don't know if I'd be that thrilled with just finding chunks of Feta. I absolutely would.

I don't mind Feta, but I mean like just by itself. No, I'm not a huge Fed I mean. Oh, okay. Well, I have some for the rest of us. I don't mind it in the salad or something Both of you what did you both just what Jess is doing a pill jam bit and you know? Jess is moving in a weed out territory over there. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I just out of, Federer if anywhere, maybe in a salad. Yeah. Okay, Eddie Federer is doing anything in that. Yes, there you go.

Well done one. Wait, we really, should we start a cheese based pill jam cover band? Absolutely not, no. Okay. Thank you. Thank God for that. For the man. Look, I reckon we may get a Patreon target if we hit a certain goal. We make a pill jam cheese based cover band. Thank you very much.

Thank you so much. Okay, let's do that. Okay, let's do that. Please let us know only to confirm that you are in fact a direct relative of Miss Fine. May I thank some people as well? Sorry Miss Fine! I would love to thank again from California. Woah, we're on a hot street here. From Wilmington. I would love to thank Osvaldo Garcia. Oh what an amazing name. Very great name so far.

Veldo Garcia. Wilmington, I've heard of. Why do I know Wilmington? I've heard of all these places so far. It's such a funny thing. I've been to California for less than a week. But just because it's in everything, I've heard of... Yeah.

I've heard of so many... even small places in California. I assume it's a small place. I have no idea Right, I think there's a few Wilmington's as a North Carolina. Right. Wilmington. There's an Ohio Well, Matt, what does uh, I was well-defined in the plane. Oh from Wilmington uh, was valedove finds a big bag of unpopped popcorn, but with a battery powered popcorn pop-up. So good. Do they have batteries there?

What do they have to hike to the fuselage? Yeah, I've just been so cruel. Battery operated. No batteries in the city. Oh, so close. Oh no. I mean, if they can make fire, you can pop them, can't they? You just need heat. Yeah. And they'll do the store. No, I'm so close. So close. Oh no. I mean, if they can make fire, you can pop them kind of. You just need heat, and they'll do the job.

A friend got me a popcorn machine as a kind of as a joke present, because we'd been talking about how much we loved popcorn. And she was like, you know, you won't use it much. I use it all the time. Love it. Love it. Love it with popcorn. I can add a little bit of butter. I'm a big popcorn fan as well. A little bit of butter. I use it all the time love it I'm a big top-com fan as well a little bit of butter to salty the cinemas last time I don't get to the cinema all that you like the salt in love the so love it

But they're trying to sell you those sixteen dollar jumbo drinks. I'll get him. I don't give a shit Wow, I'm going all out of the movies. I'm having avocado at all. What? I'm rich! I've looked up Wilmington LA, notable people, no one I've heard of. Actually, no one I've heard of who we mentioned on a Patreon bonus episode of Wildgo. So I drank, who played the first yellow ranger in the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. Fantastic. We did the curse of the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, the Patreon bonus episode of Wildback. But the name that really stood out to me,

haven't heard of him, but former pitcher for the Oakland Athletics and the Cleveland Indians, Eric Plunk. Eric Plunk. Eric Plunk. Oh, that's just lovely. What a great name. And it's like a pitcher named Plunk.

Plunk it right there. Oh, that's a good stuff. It writes itself. That feels good. It does feel good. It feels right. I would also love to thank. Thank, that's a good point. It writes itself. That feels good. It does feel good. It feels right. I would also love to thank thank you very much, Osvaldo.

Please enjoy your popcorn. I would love to thank from Marblehead Massachusetts. Correctly said. Thank you for getting that right. I would love to thank John Reigns. Reignsy. Oh, John Reigns. John Reigns. I would, and these, they're all fine at this time. Rains Rains it John Rains I

Would and these they're all finding at the same place. I'd love it I'd love for them to be able to share a That'd be nice. So there's a lot of snacky stuff. Yeah, so John finds a big bag of flour and a mixing pot Okay, good so with a bit of water and a mixing pot. Okay, good. So with a bit of water and a thermomixer, we can make damper, right? It's just water and flour. Think so. Yeah, a bit of salt for taste. Get that from the ocean.

A lot of salt from any tanks. So you go with damper, a lot of nice sort of a simple bread and yeah, that'll go very nicely with the feta perhaps. There we go. Someone needs to find some avocado and some veggies. Well something that we haven't mentioned is this deserted island has a beautiful array of vegetation. You've got banana trees, you've got avocado plants, you've got apples.

Apple trees. Mangoes. Mangoes, yes. Oh yum. You've got pretty much everything you want. So you don't have to worry. All those sort of bits and pieces you can put on the side beautiful Cos lettuce field

delightful there's a pizza hut A Starbucks which you know is a melvin coffee snow I'm not wrapped about but I'll take it That's all we've got yeah, all right. I love a caramel macchiato. Thanks Yeah, I'm a real snob that's's why I drink almost exclusively dearest coffee. Dave, bring it home, thank you for coming. Alright, a couple of fantastic names we're going to read out now from Monmouth, Oregon, again, the US, far from six in the US, we've got Laura Killip. Oh, Laura Killip.

Fantastic. Laura Killip, finds. Come Killip finds, come on Jess you can do this. What have I started with? A bag of... I want to say brains. That's like a... No, it's not. No, it's not. Somebody will find that in a delicacy. That's true. She finds a bag of burger buns. Oh yeah, my lover burger, like a brioche. A brioche. That's great. So, a six pack of brioche.

So, obviously, she wants to eat them pretty quickly for going to style. And complimenting beautifully, John's fresh bread, he can make. Yep. But what you can put in those bocean buns is all this beautiful vegetation. Yeah, and obviously there's sausages growing as well. Yeah, there's sausage bush. Little hamburger bush. Yeah. So you can see there's little patties.

There's a sausage forest there, you know. There's a sausage wall. Much like the federal government cabinet minstries. There's a lot of old sausage forest up there, let me tell you. Oh, well. It's not a old sausage forest up there. Let me tell you. Oh, wow. That's great. That's good stuff.

Sausage forest is fantastic. We got him again. Got him again. Those buddy clans up on Capitol Hill. Well, how do you say so relevant? It's finally like a thing from the Australian Capitol territory where there's clans and meat. Well, where they meet like once or twice a year there's lazy

But yeah, well, they're not making six million dollars a week My tax pay a money I would like to thank Six million in tax a week Yeah, much you I'm on Australia's rich list Well, you know when you get that rich you're're meant to find loopholes. You're doing it wrong. Well, I have found loopholes And that's the now I could get the tax down. Okay, so much money I got holy moly. I would like to thank from

ACT Allison Wichnen Allison Wichnen with w i j Wine and wine and wine and wine and wine and, wine and, wine and, and what, why does Alison wine and, and then, and on? Well, she's found a little basket, a picnic basket with a couple of beautiful wines

from the region, as well as an assortment of cheeses, dips, and water crackers. Oh my God, that's my perfect Friday night. Let me tell you that. Yeah, you love it. Like a little bit of a spread. Yes, my friend and I, she lives quite local, so we take turns going to each other's houses

and we just drink wine and eat cheese and watch trash on Netflix. I love it. And it's the best. That does sound pretty good to me. It does sound really good. I've got to tell you, the best. It does sound pretty good to me. It does sound really good. I've got to tell you, Alison's standing there with an entire basket of cheese. Kayla feels like a bit of a fucking idiot.

She's just got fed up. Yeah. And John's like, I made damper. You can put some cheese on the damper. They're like, we've got water crackers, John. It's fine. It's like putting this good cheese on your damper. Oh, I've got fed up. Well, I mean, I've got 17 types of cheese here.

Yeah. Three of which are different types of fed up. Now we're just eats fed up on a cracker. Sorry, Kayla. Amazing. Oh, yeah. She'd be in the power there. She's got a strong hand.

Oh, yeah. Some of these cheeses have been aging for decades. They're disgusting. Look at that. I really should have had them by now. I've been saving them for a special occasion. Thanks everyone that supports the show. We really, really appreciate it.

So much. There's one last little special group we like to think. The Triptitch Club. Dave, you want to explain what that is? Just want to let us know what they've got. Well, I just double check if we've got anyone on the door list tonight. Right. So this is for people that have supported the show at the shout out level or above for three consecutive years or more. 36 straight months of support never dropped off. And for their ongoing support, we'd like to welcome them into the special

Triptitch Club, which is a bar slash club slash function venue. I always imagine it more like an airport lounge. Oh, I'm like you feel fancy, but it's still a bit shit. That's fine. I picture it like a jazz club. Right. Well, now I will. A lot of velvet curtains and stuff. I should have clarified that soon. I was picturing a lot of boobs. Oh yeah, I'm picturing boobs as well.

Boops. Boops. A lot of boobs. A lot of boobs and boobs. I don't know, just boobs. Figure out which one I said. And Jess usually, before we, Matt, checks to see if anyone's being welcomed in,

because once you're in, you're in for life. So you get to mingle and sometimes there's some canopays, sometimes there's something to drink. This time there is a, you know, what's kinda trendy at the moment, just having like a grazing platter. So it's got like cheeses, bits of salami, pretzels are thrown in there. Oh, yeah, biscuits bit of fruit like everything

It's just and it's beautifully arranged. There's a grazing platter drinks wise Love grazing platter. That's great. Yes, I had a little too much to drink over the weekend So the concept of alcohol is making me a little queasy. So just so you know last week when you weren't here Jess Making me a little queasy so just so you know last week when yeah, you weren't here Jess Our good friend Jackson Bailey filled in for you and here's a beautiful treat for the guest was water So um really water we said a cocktail he said water. What was the food? There was something bad as well grass

Which had to do the episode to be Oh, yes, I I do remember that. You leave for one week. And the lounge goes to shes. Yeah, and finally enough, no one was on the door this last week. Great. I think they'd all, they maybe all heard. Finally enough, I've thrown out all that grass and water. I've been out of water here unless you want it. You can have a water. But I'm thinking like we all need a bit of a break from the boo.

So maybe some virgin decaries or something. Oh yum. You know? So fruity and yum and, and I still have that social element a break from the booze, so maybe some virgin decaries or something. Oh yum. You know, so fruity and yum and I still have that social element of having a drink, but without the headache tomorrow. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's great. And I, we should say, obviously, every week, there's always virgin options, but we're

just sort of a group, everyone at a chat. Matt has of course assured that there are virgin options. And if you give it, if you're not a nod and wink at me, I got a little bottle of whiskey that I can dip into the virgins if you're so desire. Just the drinks we're talking about, the drinks. Yes, dip into the, like okay. I can get my bottle of whiskey

and dip into the virgins. Dip it into the, yeah, no, you're right. That was poorly phrased. I was saving, it wasn't making fun. I was making fun. All right, there are three new inductees on the door this day getting in behind the velvet. And you know what's the soundtrack this week?

Oh, that's right. Yeah, what is it? It's live on stage. The man, the myth, the magic, Ricky Marta. Oh, I was gonna say Eddie Fetter. So, all right, Ricky Mart the magic Ricky Marta. Oh, I was gonna say Eddie Fitter. So, all right, Ricky Marta. Ricky Marta. Yeah, Ricky Marta, the cheese, Eddie Vedic,

I'm gonna say Ricky Marta. We'll be playing the music of Pell Jam. Oh, wow. I'd love to hear that. Feeling, did it, did it, did it, did it. Yeah. Great combo. That sounds fantastic. So there are three inductees this week from Port St. Lucci or Lucy in Florida United States, Elvis Nalasco

From Castle Hill and New South Wales Australia Ben Campbell. There's a good guys there and I swear you're the good guys you swear. It's a way of the good guys. You just get to remember a lot of the. What was the place? The store's Castle Hill. Oh fantastic. And from Yinnah in Victoria, Australia, it's Matt Dennis. Multiple good guys.

Wow. Matt Dennis lock them in. Matt Dennis lock them in. Behind the rope, enjoy your Dacquery, enjoy Rikimaten playing the music. Ben and Elvis. Geez, we got it off to a hot start name was and ended up with Matt Dennis. your Dacquery, enjoy Ricky Martin playing the music. Ben and Elvis. Cheers, we got it off to a hot start name wise and ended up with Matt Dennis. No offense, Matt, obviously.

I am there with you for sort of beige names. Dennis station is my favorite train station. I love that, yeah, there's a train station Melbourne called Dennis. Called Dennis. Dennis station, Dennis. Dennis, like someone that would write into the age we can play the green guide, signed Dennis station. 66.

Dennis. Actually, I don't, Matt Dennis has grown on me. I like it as a name. Yeah. I'm also a double first name guy, and you know, totally relate. Matt Dennis. Actually, Matt Dennis is, that's more interesting than Matt Stewart isn't it? Sorry Elvis. Well I don't think it's Beaton Elvis Nalasco.

Which I can only assume is a fake name. And Benny Campbell, very solid name as well, well done all. Yeah so that closes out the Patreon section of the show this week. Really all we got to do now is wrap up Maybe if anyone needs reminders we got a web series going this For next three weeks. That's right episode seven coming out this Friday And if you want to be involved in the premiere anyone can jump on the Stubborn channel We we should we say when we're doing it this week, we're gonna go for the same time, Friday night, midnight. Sure.

So that's end of Friday, Melbourne time. Dave pointed out that some people might confuse that for, actually that Thursday night is midnight Friday. That is true. I genuinely was confused. So I was that idiot. You were the unactionally. Yeah, you sort of were the idiot, but also...

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No mats. And I'm still not sure why they've put that bit in breath. No, it's do go on worldwide, no boys allowed. So, and over your business cards. Oh, no. Anyway, yeah, get in touch. We do go on pod on all of the social media. Do go on pod at jmail.com.

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