Two In The Think Tank - 248 - The Real Lord Of The Flies

Episode Date: July 22, 2020

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnocky and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hello! Hello! Hello! It's so good to be here inside the podcast with my two best friends in the world, Jess Perkins and Dave Warnocky. That's something I've never thought about. I've never thought about how we're.

I shut you down every time you say it and you keep my besties Oh wow all right. Oh reciprocate the the two I trust my life with oh Man, that's a bad choice. Yes for me You shouldn't have picked me Dave's hopeless. Oh my god. I'm very capable Especially a little alright to save Matt's life. You must cook a three-course meal All right to save Matt's life you must cook a three-course meal I wouldn't even walk into the kitchen. I just accept that you were dead. I just instantly start mourning you Just like RuPaul seeing that God drowning all right, so

One might be one of those editing points, I'm sure. Now you're doing it on purpose. Apparently, RuPaul prayed instead of calling 911. Thanks, RuPaul. Allegedly, hey, Dave, how does this show work? Uh, this show works where we take it in turns to report on a topic often suggested by a listener and whoever's doing the report goes away, does a bit of research, brings it back to the group, and the other two people have no idea what the topic's gonna be. This week it is Jess's Tanda report. We always get onto topic with a pesky little question. Yeah, cheeky little question. My question this week is

a recent viral article compared real life events to that of which classic novel. 1984. Basically just think of novels I guess. Classics. The Great Gatsby. No. Spot goes to the beach. Oh God I wish. What a day spot had. He lift up the rock. Little crab in there. Love. Hitchhark is guy to the galaxy. No. Poirot's day at the beach. And again, lift up the rock, murder. The little grey sail said to lift up the rock. Oh, that'll happen. Is that rude, probably? Oh, that was a door. A viral article. Okay. Okay, I'll think of how many words. Give us a stronger clue.

Five words. To kill him, I'll give him a. No. Oh, that was fast. That's not for words. No, no. It sounded good though. The last word is an insect.

I want to see if people are commenting along as well. No. Lord of the flies. Yes. Lord of the flies. Well done. Well done! Technically, flies aren't insects, no, it's not true.

I don't know. There's technically a type of ant. So yes, so, well, I'll just start the report. I was gonna just sort of editorialize a bit there, but I've written it all down. Yeah, that's true. So I'll just get started. Well, this is very, very exciting.

It might be, you might have heard or seen the article, but I'll explain a bit of backstory first. So in 1954, future Nobel Prize winning author William Golding published his allegorical novel, The Lord of the Flies, in which a group of pre-pubescent boys are stranded on a deserted island after surviving a plane crash. What happens next is a combination of power struggles, paranoia, mayhem, and murder. Oh my god, it's the real life of that. It's the real life of that. However, the novel is obviously fiction and recently, a viral story showed us that perhaps that's not quite how people would behave in that situation. showed us that perhaps that's not quite how people would behave in that situation. There's a Dutch historian called Rutger Breggman and he released a new book, Humankind, a

hopeful history in May of this year. Now, he describes the book as being about a radical idea that most people deep down are pretty decent. Crazy. Not fully going in there, they're pretty decent. Yeah, they're all right. At a base level, they're okay. He tells stories of humanity and community in times of extreme crisis, like Hurricane

Katrina and the Blitz of the Second World War. And when publicizing his new book, he wrote an article for the Guardian about one of the stories he researched for humankind. And within four days, the article had been read over seven million times. Wow, it blew up. It blew up. It went nuts. It spread all over the world.

The article was titled, The Real Lord of the Flies. What happened when six boys were shipwrecked for 15 months? Oh, I did see this article getting around. That's a long time. I remember the article as well. Yeah. That is... I did not remember it saying 15 months. Yeah. around. It's a long time, I remember the article as well. Yeah. I didn't not remember it saying 15 months. Yeah.

That is a long time. So that's sort of how? It's like three years. Bloody hell. What's that, what's that, human years? Little boy years, 15 months, yes, but human years. Human years, what is that? It's about three weeks, I think.

Wow. Yeah, that's a long time. It was lovely. Yeah. So that's kind of how, I think. Wow. That's a long time. That's a long time. It was lovely. So that's kind of how this story became globally known. I think it was definitely a story that was known within their community, within their country. Yeah, those boys and their families, they knew about it.

They knew the story. They're neighbours, they knew. Yeah. You know, people at parties, you know, so there was like people you about it. Oh my God. People at parties. You definitely bring that story. That's a great party story. You get sick of talking about it, Larry.

Come on, Matt, come on, you. Tell everyone about the time that you were shipwrecked for 15 months as a boy, when you were butter boy. When you were tiny boy. So this is that story. So it all started in June of 1965 with six boys, all pupils at San Andreas, a strict Catholic boys school in Nukua Lofa, which is the capital of Tonga. Ranging from, it's his 13 to 16, but in another place I read about 15 to 17, but they're...

They're all over the show. I reckon it's probably more likely they're 15 to 17. Sioni, Stephen, Colo, David, Luke and Mano had one main thing in common. They were bored. And boys. They were boys and they were bored. They were bored of schoolwork and desperate for some adventure. So they came up with a plan to go for a sale.

They thought maybe they'd see if they could make it to Fiji or even to New Zealand, which by the way, they are in two different directions. So probably make up your mind. Well, I really leave it in the same direction If you just keep going all the way around that's true, you know what the winds doing. Yeah, you know You know, how is that sail? You know, we're gonna end up see what happens You know Fiji you got a New Zealand either or I mean Fiji was 500 miles or 800 kilometers away. That's ambitious. So it's pretty far. New Zealand is in the opposite direction and way further. Usually it's the kind of thing where you get into it and you're like see that? Island 20 meters over there? Yeah.

Drinking when you go there. Let's do that. And then you can't get there. Nice, too hard. But that was their plan. Couple of obstacles. They didn't have a boat. Okay, sailing is a lot easier with a boat. Would you say it's also a sailboat in particular? Easier with sailing experience. Yes. They did not have that either. But how do you get sailing experience? First you get a boat. Yeah. Which I did not. Then you sail. Then you sail. Yeah. I agree. So they're based on

they're going for a swim. You can go on as many boat simulators as you like yeah, and I've been on all The savers the real thing. No, you know, I mean yeah Drop the anchor You know like I played heaps of Mario Kart and then I got my driver's license and I was like whoa Well, where are the bananas? Where are the shell things? Well, I'm not allowed to bump into other cars Oh my god, Mum. I've listened to Rod Stewart sailing, heaps.

And still, when I got on a boat, I fell right off. I love him, yeah. Yeah. I've listened to all those songs, shipping up to Boston by the Dropkick Murphy's. I've listened to these tracks. Yeah. My favourite show growing up was Ship to Shore. Yeah.

Love it. Great song. That's all the experience you need. Well, let's not go on a boat journey, I think, maybe? Well, I still want to do a podcast and international waters. Yeah, we'll make that happen. I've got no international waters experience, not stopping me.

How about Hermes and Duccus? Maybe one of the great villains on the small screen Kirk was it see the bad boy with red hair someone I really could grab looking up to Kirk Dave do you remember like't remember any character's name. You told me it was a show. It's my favourite show. I don't know what to think about. It's my favourite. Anyway, so yeah, they don't have sailing experience or a boat. So they decided to borrow a small 24 foot, so 7.3 meter boat from a fisherman that they

didn't like. It's a bit of a grumpy old man that will just take his boat. We'll borrow it. Now, if you're going out on a sailing adventure, what kind of things do you think you might pack? Boat. Boat, great. Like a spare boat. Yeah. It's like a dinghy. Yeah. I suppose. What else might you take? Food. Yep. Fresh water. Great. Medical supplies. Medical supplies. Citrus fruits for scurvy. Oh, of course. Yeah, like a vitamin C But um, maybe a map. Yeah map compass 15 months of supply and 15 months of supplies for what you assume is going to be a pretty short Jedi yes, a tent. Yep, building supplies building supplies bricks mortar. Okay, okay

an architect Okay, they just they just got just got a bit of a saying. I don't think they're planning on starting a new... An Oculus Rift, so I could pretend I'm sailing in 3D. They want a boat, using a boat because of... Oh yeah, and they can smell the smell. But they're stuck in a storm and they're like, I don't like this.

Carm waters for me. Oh, it's beautiful. That's lovely. I'm catching a fish. I've got three fish. What am I saying? What? Because I'm loving it. So they didn't pack maps or a compass? No map or compass. They did take two sacks of bananas. I love a sack of anything.

A few coconuts. A sack? How do you, I mean they come in a bunch already. I know a sack of anything. A few coconuts. How do you, I mean, they come in a bunch already. I know. I put them into a sack. I'm not sure how many bananas. I'm imagining fairly large sacks, but who knows? How many bananas do I have in two sacks? You don't get why, if it's, you don't call it a sack if it's small. Yeah, you're right. That becomes a pouch. Is that a pouch? Is that a pouch? Is that a pouch? Is that a pouch? Is that a pouch? That becomes a pouch. Is that a pouch? That becomes a pouch. Is that a pouch? Is that a pouch?

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So they journey started off well, but that first night, they made the mistake of falling asleep. Oh, no. I would have struck in the boat, sleeping at night time. In the middle of the night, they worked to giant, foaming waves crashing over the boat. Oh, I grabbed the Oculus. Oh, no. This is awful. Oh, I grabbed the Oculus. Oh, no.

This is awful. Oh, that's better. They hosted the sale, which was promptly destroyed. Next to go was the rudder. So now they have no way to steer the boat. Oh. They said they're steering wheel, right? Yeah, but it was at this point, ornamental.

Oh, no. Yeah. So they were stranded in the middle of the ocean. Without food, water or any supplies, they drifted for eight days. Okay. They tried to catch fish with no success. They collected rainwater in the coconut shells.

You said drifted, do you mean rifted, like Oculus Rifted? Yeah, they rifted sick. They took turns, you know. Look, there's big Ben. All the boys bow one, I go, no, that's the night man. Oh, wait, I'm going to die. He's having a great time for now. So, yeah, they collected rainwater in coconut shells and they shared around by taking one sip each in the morning and one sip at night. That's all they had. You'd be policing the sip pretty hard when you're everyone's watching you take that sip.

That's a gold money. That's a borderline gold. Spit it back. You don't get any water tonight. Oh, damn it. Two sip's a gold. That's who's two sips is a go. That's something I would have felt so packed a desalination plant.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That would have been smart on a small boat. Should have done it. Should have done it. Cionne tried to boil sea water to drink using the little gas burner that they had, but it tipped over burning his leg. Oh, that is unlucky.

So is that a thing you can do? You boil the salt out of the water. That's cool. I didn't know about that. I don't have heard that. We should fact check that before going up over. On our boat. Things are going very well at Dugo on.

We've got a fleet. So on the eighth day they spotted land. The land that they spotted was Atta, an uninhabited island 160 kilometres or 99 miles, south, south, west of Tonga Tapu, which is the main island of Tonga. That's so exciting. It hadn't always been uninhabited.

In fact, in June of 1863, about 350 people were living on Atta and that Tasmanian captain Thomas James McGrath of the Wailer, Grecion, decided that Wailing wasn't profitable enough. He was going to go into slave trading. So he came along to Atta and invited the islanders on board for trading. This was pretty normal. Islanders were used to trading with passing ships, stuff like pigs, chickens, sugarcane, potatoes, all sorts of stuff. It was very normal.

So he's arrived and said, hey, come on board for some trading. So they did. But once almost half the population was on board, doors and rooms were locked and the ship sailed away. 144 people never returned. He just turned up and took half the population of this island. Well, that's f**k. It's insane.

So King George... When was that in 1863? Yeah. And... And it's not that long ago. No. And the King of Tonga at the time having heard of these kidnappings sent three ships to Attar to evacuate and reset all the rest of the

Rest of the people who lived there. So all of a sudden it's gone from being it's a small island And it's gone from being this lovely community of 350 people to being uninhabited. Right. It's ghosting So they're still like there's still still stuff there for the boys to live in and whatever. 100 years later. 100 years. So it's nice and antiquey. That's what I'm looking for.

Yeah, I just want these walls to talk. Yeah, yeah. New, so, yucky. It's just stale. It's got no low personality. I want the wood to be soaked in history. You know, that sort of thing. And I guess, yeah, this would be.

That would have had like, you know, turn of the century. I don't know how to talk about houses, but, imagine if I could, it would have been a lot of fun. It would have been real. That would have been fun for centuries. I thought thought I was somewhere brainwashed to something. You'll get somewhere with that. But it didn't. Here it comes, here it comes. Oh look at the ceiling.

What a beautiful sconce. So back to the story, a hundred years later, in 1965, when the boys had spotted land. By the time they actually drifted close enough to the island, it was really late at night. Mano swam ashore to suss out if the island was to see if it was safe. And despite not being a massive distance to swim, it took him a long time because he was so weak from lying in the boat for eight days without food and water. This is a quote from him, was that tell you? When I reached the shore I tried to stand up but when I stand up the whole world is spinning. So I laid down and crawled ashore and when I touched the dry grass I

lied down. The other boys were calling out to him trying to see if he was okay and if it was safe but he was too weak to stand and signal them so he just yelled out that he was alive. The other is... I'm alive, wait. What are you saying? You're alive? Yes, I'm alive. Mate, we can't fight, Mate, what are you saying? Are you alive? Yes! More. No, stand up if you can hear me. Just, I need a rest. So the others slowly also made their way to land. No, this island is, yeah, it killed me straight away. Sorry guys, you'll have fun your own island. Bye.

Bye. Say Long. He claims it. Mine. Sorry anyway, the others come, make their way onto the land as well. And he said, we were very happy, but the first thing we did was we set a prayer, thanked God for what he brought us to. Then desperate to quench their thirst they hunted seabirds drank their blood and drained their eggs. Holy shit what a way to quench it.

Oh no. Oh my god. Yep. But you've also got to be pretty skilled and talented to do that. Yeah. Because we were there we'd be like that's a that's a good idea about how we're going to be pretty skilled and talented to do that. Yeah. Because we were there, maybe like, that's a good idea. How are we going to get that? Yeah. Oh, I mean, yeah, sure, that's a great idea to kill a seabird and drink its blood to quench its great idea.

And we've got a little gas burner, so I guess we could cook the chicken, the meat or something. No, no, I just want the blood. How do I get that blood into this cob? That's all I want. I got things. You could dig egg blood. How do I get that blood into this gob? That's all I want. I got eggs. You could eat the eggies. How do I get the blood out of these eggs?

Is this the kind of island that you can, you know, you can see one side of it, like a tiny island, or is it? It's a bit bigger than that, but it's quite small. Because then, yeah, you go. I'd be, my first instinct would be to find a water source. Yeah. Fresh water. Yeah. Fresh water.

Yeah. But I liked that they went straight to killing birds. They went straight to fresh blood. You liked that. That's good. So after they got some sustenance, they collapsed and fell asleep. The sun rise, waking them the next day.

They survived initially on fish, coconuts, tame birds, and obviously the bird eggs as well. Tame birds. Well, later when they got obviously the bird eggs as well. Tain birds. Well, later when they got to the top of the island, they did a little bit of exploring. They found an ancient volcanic crater where people had lived a century before. They're the boys discovered while Taro, a root vegetable,

bananas and chickens, which had been reproducing for the hundred years since the last time I slept. Wow. There's like six million chickens in this hole. There's so many chickens. So they're like, oh my god, they found vegetables, they found chickens. Like they're like, it's a parrots. Oh my god.

Not for the chickens anymore. It was a chicken parrots. The chickens like, this is livin'. What the fuck is that? Oh god, they're back. How old are these chickens? 100 years old. chickens like this is livin what the fuck is that? god they're back how old are these chickens? 100 years old but they're just reproducing and just living

not like just living their best lives oh that does have no sin on island like native chicken so Stephen not very inventive chicken one of the boys Stephen he managed after several failed attempts to light a fire using two sticks that old, we've all tried and he managed.

So, what- First man do we ever do it? Wow, you know the fire. Well, yeah, it's pretty crazy. That's where fire came from. One of the plot points in the book, Lord of the Flies, is around the fire and how it has to be maintained in case of passing planes. And of course, one of the kids' ab kids abandoned his responsibility and the plane goes by and they

don't get rescued and it's this whole big fight in the book. But in real life, these boys tended the fire and it burnt for the entire time they were trapped on the island. Wow, that's cool. So they agreed to work in teams, they sort of paired up and they had a strict roster for garden, kitchen and guard duty. Because now that they've found these vegetables and stuff, they sort of paired up and they had a strict roster for garden, kitchen and garden duty. Because now that they've found these vegetables and stuff, they created their own little garden

where they planted veggies, so they grow their own food and stuff. Yeah, the tarot cash, roots or whatever. Tarot cash, roots. If arguments occurred, the people involved would go to opposite ends of the island to cool off. I think about what they've done. Very mature. It is and after a few hours they'd come back together and the others would make them apologize to each other. Do it, say it. Say sorry, no, like you mean it. That was always the thing

with your kid. Mean it. Remember you'd go sorry, and like you mean it. Sorry. That's better. Yes, his parents are, I can't be bothered to see. Yeah, I never had tried. Mano says, that's how we stayed friends by cooling off and apologizing. Good lesson for everyone. Their days began and ended with song and prayer. Colo fashioned a makeshift guitar from a piece of driftwood, half a coconut shell shell and six steel wires salvaged from their wrecked boat and he used it to lift their spirits he'd play guitar.

That is so amazing. You have a song you played. I think one of them I think it's paider still has that guitar. Wow. And that was actually the first Gretch guitar. Yeah. That was a white felt. What year was this again? 65. Yeah. Guitar was invented in 65. Wow. As with all stories. That's so close to an important year. Oh, they've been in my 15, shut up. I get to save. As with all stories like this, they things just, you know, really don't go there well. They tried constructing a raft in order to leave the

island, but it fell apart and the crashing surf, the water was too strong. Another time Stephen slipped and fell off a cliff breaking his leg. Sorry, I just fell off a cliff. He's quite dramatic. Fell off a cliff and say, what? Oh my god. So he broke his leg and the other boys climbed down and helped him back up to the top

where they set his leg using sticks and leaves. These boys are so resourceful. Yeah, it's amazing. I would die so fast, mostly because I'd give up. I'm like, oh, it's too hard. You would have made it to chicken island. There's no coffee here. What we've only got a second bananas and coconuts on day one. I don't like coconuts. The sale is still working at this

point. You've already given it. I'm like oh you get there it's a cafe but it's like a chain. You're like oh I guess I'll have a caramel frappuccino or something. But what's the port? It's only so much fun. You don't have bagels. I'd be done. I forget you're a bit of a coffee snowball. Big time.

Big time. That's why I'm enjoying this day iced coffee. Yeah, well, I mean, the coffee snops choice to have asked coffee. Absolutely. And also the saints, one of the saints, major sponsors. Saints, a little team that I might reference in the coming months. Coming 15 months.

So over the following months, the boys set up a number of things to survive. Like I said before, they had a small little commune with a food garden. They had hollowed out tree trunks to store rainwater. Apparently they had a badminton court and a gym, they just found heavy things to make weights. But I want to go back to the badminton court. Yeah.

Well they badmintoned. Well they were boys, they thought shuttlecock was a funny word. And they go, well let's give ourselves a reason to say that every day. Pass the shuttlecock, David. It sounds like we did a Patreon bonus episode day where you got us to say our desert island discs. That's what your favorite albums and one luxury item if we were ever trapped on a island. And this island sounds a lot like our like the island we created with a gym. I did say cafe.

Just as like throughout I'm with a cafe. Yeah, but we could also work there so we could earn some money. Yeah, pocket money. To spend at the cafe. They had chicken pens and the fire that was burning always. I was like the Olympic torch. The flame. Yeah, the eternal flame. It's sort of like the bangles. What was that banana rama? Which is what I call a sack of bananas. I guess those two bananas. They had two banana ramas on board with them. So yeah, obviously this, I mean, I'm talking about it like, oh, it sounds so nice.

It obviously was a terrible time. But they've done the best you can do in this time. Absolutely, and they've worked really well together as a team. So then, Sunday, the 11th of September 1966. September 11, 1966. That is so close to the Grand Final Day September 1966 as I wrote it I was like it's so close so close that was a couple of weeks before yep so yeah I'd say 1966 that reminds me of the my team the St. Kielder Saints one there one I only

VFL IFL Premiership well to to this point if you're listening to this in a few years' time, it'll be one of two. But at this point, yes, just the one. When Barry Brin kicked that famous wobbly punt for a point, what'd you call me? Here are wobbly f***ing days. Oh no! Oh no! No! No! That was not intentional.

Can we bite that? No. That's a good fun. Okay, so... So, it's the Perello of 1966. Tasmanian man named Peter Warner, who was out in his fishing boat, was making his way back to Australia from Tonga, where he'd unsuccessfully asked a fish for lobster in Tonga and Waters. The king had said, nah.

So, he's on his way home. And luckily, he was denied, because he took a D-tour to outside Tonga and Waters to see if he could have any luck fishing And do you get a personal meeting with the king? Yeah Back then I don't know now. I'm sure now so cool, but also you got rejected, but that's cool. Yeah But a person got rejected Because you usually get a rejection letter it feels so impersonal But when the king slaps you across the face and says piss off. Yeah on your hundreds birthday

You get a personalized rejection letter from the queen. My grandparents got a letter from the queen recently for their 70th wedding anniversary and they were sort of like a bit disappointed because it was the same picture that came in the 60th wedding anniversary. And I'm like, we'll stop being married for so long. Yeah, it's a whole also ready. Is it too late to be an old? Yeah, maybe. So the queen, does the queen like pen it herself or she just signs it or someone stamps her signature? Yeah, they're just like bulk letters where they just put in your name. Oh, that's I mean the queen's busy, but anyway, my horsey's

I've got some dogs she's got more season dogs man, but she's not looking after somebody else is doing that Yeah, oh my god. Imagine just being in charge of looking after dogs Yeah, there's a professional dog person Not me also now. I guess if I just got a dog then I would be in charge of looking after a dog Whoa, yeah, you get a dog. We get a dog club on the show. That'd be fun Anyway, sorry so he's I know I'm just so excited gone outside of Tongan waters for a bit of extra fish Yeah, he's just he's scum fish and he's no reason no rush to get home and there in the distance he saw ater He knew of the island at its history so he

knew no one was living there but he noticed something odd. There were burnt patches on the green cliffs. Oh no there's an arsonist. And he could. That's a bit odd because you know we're in the tropics. Spontaneous fires don't really happen that much. That's weird. So he decides to investigate and he gets kind of close to the island and one of the crew on his boat says People he can hear yelling and he's like that's just birds like it's not Something when I'm yelling help help help That's a sick bear! That is an in-bred chicken!

Help! Help! Help! That's a really sick bird! We should solve an open! He got something out to put his bear out of his misery! It's his karate chopper! He got something open. He got something on the island to put his beard out of his misery. It's his karate job.

And I'm done. He's like, you're welcome. I did the right thing there. You're at peace now. So anyway, as they approach the island, he has a look through his binoculars and sees a boy. This naked long-haired boy leapt from the cliff into the water and started to swim towards the boat. Oh man, I'd be

turning the boat around. That sounds terrible. That sounds like the ring or something. Oh my god. And they were quite concerned. Because all of a sudden there's more boys in the water swimming towards the boat and screaming at the top of their lungs. That's horror film, sir. All of a sudden, there's more boys in the water. Everyone look at boys coming in. It's multiple. Oh my god. We're all like boys coming in.

Oh. Jump scare hands. No. Oh, yeah. Boy, this one you think, oh, it's safe. I'll come out again. Oh. Oh, shit. Oh, shit boy, this one you think, oh it's safe. I'll come out again. Oh, shit. It might hit him imagining toddlers too,

like the least scary boy. But when they're unexplained and all in the water, coming out, yeah. Kids are the scariest. That's what they use even horror films all the time. Kids, which are like, cut little English accent. Oh yeah.

Hello, help me, dad. Oh. Unless you're English. It's pretty cool. It's crazy. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like That's pretty normal to you. All English dozens of terrifud all the time. Oh no, I'll put down the peanut butter. Stop it where you come from. Help me, Daddy.

Help me, Daddy. No. In this case, the boys aren back and down. They're right. But at the time, Polynesian custom was, a lot of the time, they would dump dangerous criminals on remote islands. Oh. So they're like criminal boys. Oh, we could be in a bit of danger here.

Right. So Stephen reached the boat first, and luckily for the boys, they were able to speak English. And Stephen said, there are six of us. We reckon we've been here 15 months. Peter was quite skeptical, but he radioed to Nukka Olofa and told them that he had six boys with him who claimed to be students of St Andrews. He gave their names and the operator called the school to confirm if they were pupils. He was just like, you know, let's make sure these, I'm not bringing criminals back. Yeah. People at the office are like, um, yeah, and tell this boys they're in trouble. Let me just 15 months of class.

They're going to have to repeat your 10, um, 20 minutes later, the operator came back and said, you found them. Oh, so Peter and these crew turned back and take the boys back to Tonga. Where hundreds of people apparently turned up to celebrate their return. Their families rejoice. They'd had funerals for their sons. Like they assumed that the boys had died. So they're thrilled.

But also waiting when they arrived with a police. Because it turns out the grumpy bow donor was still pissed that his boat was stolen and was pressing charges. Like a real piece of shit. So the boys were... I So the real piece of shit, he had his boat stolen. What a dog. Hey, you upset your boat, your livelihood was taken from you. Oh, that's a set you.

Oh, what are you signing with this guy? Everyone's so happy these kids are back and he's like, yeah, back in prison, back they go. Yeah, no, it is weird. He's not like, oh, my boat is my boat okay. No, no, we broke it. Yeah, but where alive? Well, I wish it was the other way around. Okay, never break anything of mats. Never break my boat. That's why we had to get three boats, Matt would not share. Two of them might spare boats.

Very generous about a lot of things except boats. So I must say as well that the boys were all in really good physical condition, which you might not expect because they've been stuck on an island for 15 months. But they've all got sick rigs. They look great. So there was a doctor that assessed them all and was amazed at their muscular physiques. That makes... Because I had the gym and the bed.

Oh, yeah. And they're all there, you know, they're just having to catch food. They're not the big protein, chicken, chicken, chicken. Oh, yeah. And they're teenage boys, like they... We get unfit because we sit to work all day and don't do anything. Yeah, I know. If your life is active, you're probably going to be pretty fit.

I guess so. And the doctor even said they did a great job with Steven's broken leg, which had healed perfectly. No, that is impressive. The leaves. The leaves and the twigs. I'm like, leaves. That's not going to do it.

Yeah, what a relief. I'm thinking about gum leaves, though. They're probably big palm leaves. Yeah, they're probably big. I was also picturing his leg like that and they're just dropping. You'll be right Malchee leaves. Again, that's us. I think these boys have a bit more experience. What the eucalyptus, that's a beautiful smell. So so easy. That's got a brachialik smell this. You'll be right. Anyway, so the boys are stuck in

jail and Peter came up with a plan. So it occurred to him that the story of their shipwreck was perfect Hollywood material. Now, something I didn't mention was that Peter was the youngest son of Arthur Warner, one of the richest and most powerful men in Australia. Peter worked for his father's company and managed the company's film rights and new people in TV.

So from Tonga, he called up the manager of Channel 7 in Sydney, said, you can have the Australian rights, give me the world rights. So he paid the boat owner, £150 for his old boat and got the boys released on the condition that they would cooperate with the movie. So a few days later, a team from Channel 7 arrived. Wait, can you say that again? What? They sort of...

He basically sold the rights to their story... The guy that rescued them. To get some money to pay off the boat owner. Oh, okay. So he's doing it to help them sort of? Yes. Were they in on it? The boys? An excellent point. So, a note here is when the article first came out,

it was criticised rightly so, because it was told from the perspective of the white man who saved them. It was all about Peter Warner. And it also brushed over why the island was uninhabited and when the boys had arrived in the dark history of the island.

And people were frustrated that Peter sold the boy's story as if he had any ownership over it. Yeah. And after this criticism was voiced, the Guardian followed up with another article, which actually interviewed Mano, one of the boys. And when asked about that criticism, he said, I know a lot of people say to me things about Mr. Warner making money from our story, but who cares.

If there wasn't Mr. Warner, we wouldn't have survived. And we wouldn't be here to tell our story. So if he makes the money from it, good luck to him, that's my opinion. So, and I'll go into it a little bit more at the end as well. I don't think he has made money from it. And Channel Seven crew turned up, there's a whole big section about it in the book, Humankind, where they took this film crew to the island.

And it was just like a big mess, because Channel Seven reporters, the news reporters trying to like track through a Really hard mountain like island and they're oh, it's hard and it didn't go up from channel seven Sydney. Yeah, you know Sydney Good luck out there in the bloody bush Sydney types, you know with a buddy cups of tea or whatever they do up in the big smoke. I mean, yeah, enjoy your bridge. There's no bridges here.

We wade through rivers, though. Okay, oh, you want to go to an opera house? Well, unfortunately not. No, no opera over here. We only have a bad mitten court. So anyway, for saving the boys, Peter was a national hero in Tonga. The King thanked him for rescuing the boys and asked if there was anything he could do for him.

Peter asked if he could start a business in Tonga to trap Lobster. The King was like, sure thing. That's what he wants. What do you want at all? He wants to start a business. So Peter went back to Sydney, resigned from his father's business, and had a new fishing boat made. And then he returned to Tonga and hired the six boys as crew for a new fishing boat made. And then he returned to Tonga and hired

the six boys as crew for his new fishing boat. The name of the boat was Atta. I don't know how great, you know, maybe I don't want to be reminded, but you know, I mean, the boys had wanted an adventure. That's why they took off in the first place. You know, a board. You can see the world now. You have to make many hide them all. You can see the world. Well, look, I might be over. So you can see some lobsters. Lobsters of the world. Yeah. How would you guys like to earn some lobsters?

And they're like $20, $20, no, it's, yeah. I mean, oh, no, sorry, literally, the truly lobsters, I pay you in lobsters. I'm going to pay you in lobsters. So a couple of points of like what we were talking about. They're that's basically the end of the story. Obviously, they all made it home and they were fine. And the story wasn't all that widely known

outside of Tonga until a couple of months ago. But yeah, like I said, it was criticized for a few things. There's a Tongan author and storyteller, Malika Gasefattafai. And she took issue with the story's colonial lens. This is a quote from her. She says, the original article could have done more for the six men. The story should have been told by a Tongan.

The story should have been told by the men themselves and their families. This is their story. We'll always be their story. The article doesn't mention how the boys felt or why they made the choices they made. It lacked their perspective. It lacked the very Tongan story, lacked the very Tongans the story was about with the exception of Mano, but even then Mano was sidelined. He deserved to share his story how he would want to. Mano himself said that while he isn't quite ready to tell his story, he thinks maybe he'll write a book with the help of his grandchildren. The main reason he wants to do that is so

that his family will be secure, but his grandkids will have some money when he's gone. Because he's in his 70s now and he lives in Queensland. It does sound like that initial article was just kind of poor journalism, if it missed out getting their perspective. I know. And so that's what's hard about it too, because it was an excerpt from the book, and in the book he does go into more detail, and it has interviewed a couple of the boys. And I'm not defending, but you know, you've got to break it down for word limits for an

article. So it was just sort of like, here's an interesting story, but it was mostly, I mean, it was told by a Dutch historian from the perspective of the white Australian who found them, which is amazing and they're obviously very grateful for him, but it's like maybe reframe it a little bit. Well, you're a journalist. Yes. Quite true. Me? Yes, yeah. How do you say it? Well, I'm certainly not helping by being another white person telling the story, but for now, it's sort of the only written formal telling of the story and that's why it is widely known. And I did read that there have been talks about a film with Peter Warner but also

the four of them are still alive, but they're all part of the discussion. Is it going to be made by Channel 7? Is it a telemovie? A lot of people have said it needs to be done by Tongan people, not like when we had Ethan Hawke playing a Uruguayan rugby player in a live from one of our history. Really? Yeah. Well, the main guy, remember Nando, the one who climbed up,

was played by Ethan Hawke. Oh, he can act the Hawke. Oh, he can act the Hawke. Yeah, he can transform. So hopefully the story can be told by themselves, whether that's in book or in film. But I just thought that is a pretty amazing story of survival and the human spirit. We love survival story. We love survival story. We love survival story.

That is quite amazing. 15 months. And yeah, like you say, there were 17 at max. They didn't even know the Saints were winning that promise. They didn't know. They were doing the hardest thing for them to come back to. They broke the drought when we were on a deserted island. Oh no, we missed the wobbly punt.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was one of their first questions. Yeah. Do the Saints win. Did I get up? To your first question. Have you waved for 15 months? Have the Saints won in the last year. Imagine if you missed a pro-muse. That's what would happen. Imagine. It's just such a wild story. So there's not that there is an aversion of it written where we know sort of their day to day in more detail yet but that hopefully becoming because that would be fascinating to know obviously wow yeah how do they like how how many chickens do they eat do they go we can't eat too many chickens can we need them to keep breeding so

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Well that brings us to everyone's favourite section of the show, the fact quote a question section which has a little jingle that's topping the charts around the world I believe right now. You're reading something like this. You're reading something like this. You're reading something like this. You're reading something like this. You're reading something like this. You're reading something like this. You're reading something like this. You're reading something like this. You're reading something like this. The remix is yes. It goes. Thank you. Quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack level, get to give us a fact, quote, a question. They get all sorts of different rewards as well. They get to vote on two out of three topics, the third of course being personal choice

by the report giver. They also get three bonus episodes a month, including a bonus report, a quiz type thing or something else random like that, or a phrasing the bar absurd, which is a new podcast exclusive to Patreons, where we talk about the films of Brandon Fraser. Oh man. Oh we got a good one. What are we talking about? It'll be school ties this one. School ties.

Sort of a Matt Damon. Yep. Oh wow. It's an all-star cast and phrase leading role. And the other probably maybe even the most exclusive Benefit you get for being on this level of patreon is getting to give us a factor quote or a question And this week because I don't have my computer here. Jess has taken over the role big shoes to fill Also, because I'm perfectly capable. That's big shoes to fill. I will fuck this up. Yes. Not like me. Well now that is actually part of the job. You got to fuck it up a little bit.

Charming way. Okay. All right. Let's see if I can be charming. Don't pre-read. You got to read it also. First time on the pod please. I haven't read anything. I promise. So we've got a few here. The first one is from Liam Goodwin, who's written Life's Good, real name, Liam Goodwin. So love that, thank you Liam. And that's, as he also given himself a title. His title is Lawman of the pod.

Oh, sweet token lawman. Yeah, right. Don't know if you're some sort of law enforcement officer, or if you're just a bit of a stickler for rules. Either way, I respect you. Oh, the way, don't hurt me. And Liam, this week has given us a quote. Oh, yes, fantastic.

And the quote is, coming back to where you started, is not the same as never leaving. Terry Pratchett. Oh, jeez Terry Pratchett is mentioned a lot on this show. I reckon that's the second or third time he's been fact-quoted or questioned. Probably to be honest would have been quoted both times. Has he been questioned? And we did a primates about him as well, about his Disc World series. So yeah, and that was suggested by a bunch of listeners. The patrons love Terry Pratchett. A lot of Pratch heads out there.

You got that right there, is. And he can't be too far away from the world of Hitchharker's Guide as well, similar sort of English fantasy novelists. Yeah, well, we should mention that this week's book cheat that I just put out yesterday features all three of us. You two were very gracious to a pair of my show together. And we talked about Dr. Saddam's The Hit Track as Guide to the Galaxy, which is probably one of the top five most requested books I've got.

After plug the Tony Lockett story. Yeah, but I'm saving that for the big 100. Yeah, that was a really fun episode to do, but that's it. I really liked it. The more I learn about Terry Pratchett, the more I like him, the Gis is very fun, funny writer. I haven't read a lot of Terry Pratchett. Or any, I should say. I was going to say I haven't read any. He's Pratchett. But also. Or any, I should say. I was gonna say I haven't read any. He's got good wisdom. Yeah, from that quote. I read it. See that. The masquerade when I was backpacking the first time. Pick it up and one of those hostile book swaps. Yeah, last one. What did you swap for it? Oh, did you not? I think I... What's the guy who wrote high fidelity?

Nick Hornby. Nick Hornby, his book about being an arsenal supporter or I think it was an arsenal supporter. I forget what it's called, fever pitch maybe? No, okay. I can't remember. But it was a book about, it was sort of like his football supporting biography.

I swapped that for the Pratch. For the Pratch. I love that. Yeah, but that was a great, great fact from Lath's Good. That's my point. Thank you so much. Thank you Lath's Good. Our second facts Twitter question comes from Dan Peterson. Dan has given himself the title of unofficial director of Saints Fan Recruiting.

Okay, appreciate it. Any help we can get? Wow. It's totally worked on us this week. Yeah, get on board, Saint Train. And Dan's fact is... Oh, another fact. Well, we had a quote before, sorry. Oh, a new fact.

Oh, no, what have I done? I'm not good at this. There we go. While this podcast has thrown its support fully behind the Gary South Shore railcats, I have decided to use this platform to advocate for my hometown team. I am, of course, referring to Gary's North Division rivals and reigning American association. Oh, but the Sun Paul Sain. Our arch-never sees.

Is it? Yes, that's what he's talking about. Professional baseball champion. They're referring to Gary's North Division rivals and reigning American Association of Independent Professional Baseball Champions, the St. Paul Saints. I'd like to offer up a fact about the Saints. Jess can feel free to let me know if it's fun or not. Thank you for respecting.

The fact is, the Saints are partly owned by Comedy Legend Bill Murray, and he has better known to show up unannounced on the opening day of the season to work as a ticket taker. That's fun. That is all sorry. Excuse me. I'm fucking believable all sorry about that. Well, what do you what do you think? Please enlighten me? What do you think? What to me that is unquestionably a fun fact. Oh unquestionably unquestionably I agree I'm glad I actually did a little bit scared I was squirming

I'm gonna say that team sounds great, but I've got to say, that team sounds great, but I've got to give a shout out to my favorite team, which is of course another rival to the railcats. From the American Association of Independent Professional Baseball, the Wichita Wing Nuts. Oh, going nuts. Yeah, they're the top three for me. Great team.

Wichita. Wichita is fun to say too. Where is Wichita? Who knows? Yeah. Probably people from Witcher Tar at home. It's in the United States for America. Anyway, thank you so much.

And the Witcher Tar Lone. To Dan Peterson. We had a long Witcher Tar conversation with the week you were off-sick. Long Witcher Tar. We were talking about Witchy Woman by the Eagles. And other things. and other things. And other things. Yeah, which it's our woman by Glen Campbell,

I think, and other such things. Anyway, that's great. I mean, simple. They're a very good team. If they were any other league, they would be my team, but I'm a Cat'sman till Death Doors part. Yeah very enough. Go Cats. Go Rockets. But Dan, great fact. Thank you for that and thank you for your support.

Alright onto our next one. It was from James Edwards. Hi James. Hi James. The best laugh in the biz. Well James has given himself the title of Chief Avoidor of live streaming shows by sleeping. Oh yeah. Because last time we did... Famously mistom. Yeah, last time we did a run of live stream shows, there would always be a comment,

not long after, of James going, I missed it! Most of the time, he's watching The Little Of The Night, right? Yeah, it's 3am where he is in England, so... So understandable. But at my stand-up show last year in London, he... Yeah, I'd almost travel around with him, planting him in the audience. It does like a chiller, great laugher.

Great laugher, and he has given us a question. Okay. So, it's having spent an inordinate amount of time helping companies rearrange working environments to suit the new normal of social distancing. I wonder how you guys think things will change after restrictions are lifted. Oh James look restrictions have been put back in place in Victoria. So he says do you think we will be able to enjoy live comedy shows in the same way we're used to. I'm especially thinking about Matt's brilliant stand-up gig at the Bill Murray last year. Oh, the Bill Murray! Where the audience was packed in like sardines. Yeah, that, I mean, that is really random. You there that night, they do squeeze them in there.

Absolutely, there's people in front of you and on the sides of you. It's a real arena spectacle. Yeah, in the round. So I love that venue, but yeah, I wonder how long it will be. I keep it streaming. It's going to be back to that before too long, but really until there's a vaccine, it sounds like that's unlikely. Yeah, I mean, a lot of it's kind of interesting to see how many people and organizations have like just figured out different ways to do stuff. Like people here at Stupor, I would have come up with a way to do live streams and lots of places are doing that and sort of zoom gigs and stuff like that, but I think it'll be a while

before we go back to how it used to be. Yeah. A long time probably. I think in other states in Australia it's starting to happen gigs of returning, nature is healing, but- But they spreading the map still a bit like people are saying- I think that have to be a little bit spread out, yeah. But it means, I mean, unless they go backwards like we have which is I guess a very real

chance. Maybe they'll keep being able to up the capacities. Slowly. And I watch or watch on jealousy from a far jealous Lee. Jealousy. Jealousy. I don't see. Just adds at the end.

Thanks for everything you do to keep us laughing through this weird situation. Oh, thanks James. Thanks James. Thanks for your support. Yeah. And it's very comforting to think of you laughing away in England. And a good question too. And annoying your neighbors.

Imagine being annoyed by someone just sounding so joyous. Yeah. Joyful. Joyful. I've heard that, because this laugh has been with me for a long time, and people in school being like, oh, God, you're so loud. I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry I'm having a nice time. Oh, yeah.

Fucking kill joy. I'm so sorry. Oh, I'm sorry that you have no sense of humour. Oh, did you not get it? Oh, girl school is a very bitchy. Oh, but it's okay. I turned out fine. Turn your laugh.

What a great feature. Great feature. It's okay. I turned out fine. And you're laugh. What a great feature. Great feature. It's right up there with James Edwards. Oh, yeah, I agree. I think, I mean, I definitely think his is above me, but I'm maybe a close fifth. Our final fact-word question for today comes from Roy Phillips. Hi, Roy. Roy is giving himself the title of Soul Controller of all automatic doors. Oh, thank you. That is a massive responsibility. How do you possibly keep up with all of them?

I must have sort of Superman type. You know, in order to be able to get around. Bruce Almighty, when he's replying to emails and he's typing really fast, I reckon it must be like that. Maybe he's got Bruce Almighty slash God-like skills. I can only assume yes. And Roy has given us another quote. And this quote is,

good judgment comes from experience and the vast majority of experience comes from bad judgment. That's a quote from Will Rogers. Do you want that again? Yeah, let me hear it. Good judgment comes from experience and the vast majority of experience comes from bad judgment. Okay, I guess that's a key learning for me mistakes.

Yeah, that's great. You make a bad judgment, you fail, you learn from it, lady, you make a good judgment, I like that. Yeah, I think that's good. I mean, it'd be great to just always, you know, sometimes people say like, you need mistakes and that's why you don't have regrets. But if you could like in this sort of mythical world you're imagining why not just get things

right the first time every time then you don't need to learn from mistakes because you never make them. Yeah I wish you could I wish you could actually learn from other people's mistakes. I do sometimes. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's got to be pretty big ones. My dad told me so much as a teenager that I was like,

one ever died, and then I grew up and went, ah shit. Yeah, I didn't learn from those kind of mistakes. Dad was like, every time you earn some money, put a bit of it aside. I was like, whatever! I was like, I didn't need to buy a car and I was like, no, no. Dad! Look after your ears, mad. Play loud music, you'll have hearing loss. Whatever, dad. I can't hear you, dad. What are you saying, dad? What? Etc. My ears will live forever. All the opposite. I don't care. Live fast. My ears will die young. I don't care. Thank you very much to Liam Goodwin, Dan Peterson, James Edwards, Roy Phillips. Thank you so much. What a great list of facts, quotes and questions. Anya, you can get involved

in that at patreon.com slash do go on pod on the Sydney Sean Berg Rest in Peace level. And may he rest in peace. Another thing we like to do for people that support us on the show at the Asprod level or above. Yes, I am Sean Connery. Money, penny. Money, penny. Bring me the asprod producer. People that support the show on the Asprod level are above. We give them a shout out and a thank you for supporting the show It's funny that the AskProld level still exists because that was named after your position at the project But you're you're just full pro now. It's full pro. Thank you so much

You're asked your ass out I asked there's been hanging out for lots of Surprisingly, I'm not having been fired actually. Yeah,'re going to start if this is okay with you two, we're going to start doing three-h. So, we get through nine a week just because it is getting away from us a little bit where we just want to make sure we get to all the shout outs. Yeah, thanks so much for everyone that's been signing up. I have fun saying their names because they're all good.

And I love Jess's games. What game are you going to play this week, Jess? Ooh, it has a tough one. Maybe what they would take to the island. You know how the boys only took couple of saxo bananas. Yeah. Okay, maybe these nine people are also in the boat. And so on top of the bananas,

a couple of coconuts and a gas cooker, they also bring some stuff. Is that fun? I don't know. And they're all there together. So these nine people, they'll be women and men. Yes. But they're all boys. They're all boys today. They're honorary boys today. Teenage boys with confusing emotions. And confusing hairstyles.

Yeah, and it was a 60s. Oh, yeah, but you're awesome. Different time. Well, yeah, what they wouldn't be able to cut their hair. Well, unless we pack them a hairdress and kit. Okay, well, let's see. So, mate, I kicked this off. Please.

Well, I'd love to thank from Como in Western Australia. Mmm. Jamie Griffiths. Jamie Griffiths. Como. That's where I want a Griffiths. Co-commo. That's where I want a good go-go. Oh, okay. Well, Jamie's from Como, so maybe they bring a comb.

Oh, we did it in my bag. In their hairdressing kit. Oh, okay, for the mustache, yeah. A mustache comb. Como. It's less useful than the hairdressing kit, but it is adorable. Well, what are the hairdors?

That's part of the hairdresser. Yeah, it's part. I'd all in there. There's a normal comb, mustache comb. Come on. Less useful than the hairdress and kit, but it is adorable. Well, what are the hairdressers? That's harder than hairdressers. Yeah, it's hard. It's all in there. There's a normal comb, mustache comb, scissors, hairdryer, straightener, curling wand, shampoo conditioner, but like good stuff. Pube clippers. Pube clippers, obviously, that pube clippers.

They've also got dry shampoo. If you can't be bothered fully washing your hair. You get it. But you still want to go out on a set of iron on the island This is how we know you live with a woman. That's right. That stuff smells fantastic. Yeah, it does. I should I just had a thought we should let listeners know that if they wanted to watch today's episode they can buy a ticket It's so presents. I'll be linking the show notes and you can get a season pass to watch that one and the following three weeks if you want as well.

Yeah. And it's not just the bonus episode or not the episode. There's a bonus sort of episode at the end of it. We recorded a, well, it was about 40 minutes worth of a game that we call FACFinder. FACFinder FACT Finder. Where some of the Patreon supporters suggested topics and we all went away and researched a topic A fact on that topic and then the people at home voted for who's was the most interesting. It was a lot of fun. I love the interactive part of it as well like waiting for people to vote and

Oh, isn't that amazing? It's exciting. It made it feel like a live show. Yeah, which it was I guess in a lot of ways But we haven't had that feeling for a while, so. Yeah, so that's definitely what we're doing if people are keen on that. And I reckon there's a few bits, suggest what about to have edited it out? You wouldn't have heard, but I think we can't edit it

from the last term. I just remain there. So get the earmuffs ready if you've got any young children watching with you. So, yeah, Jamie Griffiths. Thank you, Jamie. Get the earmuffs ready if you've got any young children watching with you. So yeah, Jamie Griffiths, thank you so much for having the thought to bring your hairdressing kit for the rest of the boys. Really, really handy. As well. I would also love to thank from Victoria Park in Western Australia. Oh, no. Claire, no surname.

Claire! Like a Madonna. Does not need a surname. I like that. Yeah. What if she brings a ship in a glass bottle? Oh. Okay. That serves zero purpose.

Yeah, because you can't use it for water. No. And you can't use it for a ship. Yeah, but. Nice to look at. You got to build it though. Oh. One of those ones.

So, activity. It's an art project. something to pass the time. Yeah, okay. It's 15 months out of the card you are useless You have no help I brought a hairdressing A ship in a bottle and it doesn't even have the ship yet. She's got a build it. So it's a bottle It's got a bottle and some bits of I reckon if she's smart She just uses the bottle to catch rain water Yeah, that would be good. It's a funnel with some leaves. Well, that would ruin the artwork You're not wrong. You're not wrong. Is the puzzle that she could make the ship out of the bottle?

No Went in the simsins who makes the ship in the bottle and it's such a bobbler such a bobbie's making Westpins to Abby Oh, the clocks are even accurate Who makes the ship in the bottle? It's such a bobble. It's such a bobble. He's making Westpins to Abby. Oh, right. And the clock's a reven accurate. I know he's setting it. He gets knocked and he knocks it all over. Ah.

That's very good. Hopefully, I think that might be our first Simpson's reference. We needed to get something in there for Jacob and our official Simpson's reference. I took the mustache comb as a Simpson's reference. Oh. Do you remember that? Yeah. What'd you get? Must? Yeah. What'd you get? Mustache comb?

What'd you get? Pick mustache? Why don't you call my mustache? After they go to like a time zone type of arcade place. Yeah, that's right. Thank you, Claire. Thank you, Claire. And my third final shout out to you from the first city

of Adelaide in South Australia. Beautiful city. One of my favorite capital cities in Australia. I mean they're all very good though admittedly. I'd love to thank Zander. Zander. Zander brings a Zander. Oh my goodness I can't wait to start helping these poor people out. They've had three things and so far. Yeah but I mean you know know, they can chop down a tree and then sand it down. But they can't chop it down. Well, maybe there'll be something later they could chop down a tree with.

You couldn't have just brought a whole like, a toolkit. A toolkit. I know, but it was fun to say. Yeah, I love it. It's fun to say. Yeah, a lot of it. Sandpicks a sander, along with the rest of his toolkit. Yeah.

Is it too late? No, not at all. So it's a toolkit. Yeah, is it too late? No, not at all. So it's a toolkit. And he makes it. From McHeeda, give me my McHeeda back, Mac, is what Zander would say after lending Mac one of his tools. Well, Zander would bring a sandwich and work exclusively on making verandas. For shelter.

Perfect. This isn't a Dr. Sus book, Dave. Or is it? Is it? It is a soup. No. Who feels like it? Can I thank some people as well?

Oh, that would make me feel so good. Thank you. Thank you, Dezander again. I would love to thank from Bandura in the ACT. Oh, that's a good country. I'd love to thank Celeste and Josh Van Greensvin. Amazing names. Celeste and Josh. Two for one. Celeste and Josh Van Greensvin. Amazing names Celeste and Josh. Two for one. Celeste and Josh Van Greensvin.

Are they getting two items? Are they bringing one collectively? Well, yeah, no, they're bringing a joint couple, email account. So that way they can be contacted on the island. Celeste and Josh at GMAT.com. Along with their computer that's hooked up to the internet with unlimited power.

Love the idea of them rocking up the island. The boys being like, oh, thank goodness you're here. Have you brought any food or shelter we can have? Yeah, we've got a couple's Gmail. They're going to join Facebook. That's the worst. It's always Graham and Jean. No good idea.

I just double checked. Their email is not a joint account thank goodness. Thank God. Yeah. Mercerously. They got ribbed dead in there. People with joint accounts. When I got them, when I made it, well not made up, but just put together Solace and Josh and Jim. I had a quick glance. I was like, not their email. Thank God. Not their value, not their email. Not their value.

Email is not your value, people. Thank you very much. And your email is just as though you value. I wish it was mine because... Mine's great. Sex God, 69 and Hot Males. That's cool. That's it.

Sixth card. Remember the time you said, you're a mancer in the sheets. No. But I stand by. Next come, remember the time he said, you're a mancer in the sheets. No, but I stand by it. It's one of your lifeturns. Is that a good one? You're a genius, genius and bad. It sounds like you're over thinking.

You should see him work and then the bed. It's a real master. It's art. Thank you very much, Leston Josh. I'd also love to thank from, what's MI? Oh, I see the Missouri. Missouri, one of the four Michigan. We always, I always Michigan.

Michigan. So you got Missouri, Michigan. What are the, there's more MIs than that though. The Montana's the only M.O. You got Massachusetts. Minnesota. Minnesota. And I think there's, is there not four? Miami. Three MAs. Four MIs and one M.O. That's a lot. What a way to remember it. Missouri, Michigan. Michigan. Oh, Michigan. Mississippi.

Mississippi and Minnesota. Yes. But from Michigan. Love to thank Paul Jackby. Oh, Paul Jackby. Paul Jackby, this man does not need vowels. He's name. Doesn't only vowels, but what he does need

and what he brings to the table is. And the you and another A but in Jack B this J. O. C. K. B. he brings a professional chef set which includes all cookery, broccoli, nivory and cutlery. Oh the real one. I'm gonna say stovery. He also brings a lot of sass, connivery. Can I very.

He's watched Survivor before. Yeah, he's stabbed a few people in the back to survive that thing. He's ready to play the game, even though everyone's like, we're not playing a game. No one is at winning or at playing, we're surviving together. The host is not coming here. The tribe will not be speaking.

Do not stop voting who you want to leave. It's a mean. People's names are a bit of a business name, but no one can leave. Paul, no one can leave. If you've got an issue with someone, just talk to them please. Stop just holding their name up on a piece of paper. Well, you better system, you walk to the other end of the island and cool down.

Stop wasting all the paper. I'm not a cameraman. Stop addressing me like I'm the viewers at home. There are no viewers at home. Don't write my name, I'm a fucks-said. Love you, well, he won't be the cameraman that he is here to be. So I'm voting off Dave. Thank you, Paul.

And finally, I would love to thank from Clearwater Florida. Oh great name. Sounds lovely. I sound like paradise. So nice and I hope you love it there. Jason Frey. Oh Jason Frey. Piano. Oh great choice. Full grand, full baby grand. Of course. Well I feel like from the rule that we've created, that's just the tip of the iceberg. He's also brought. An axe. And all this. from the rule that we've created. That's just the tip of the iceberg. He's also brought an orchestra. An orchestra. He built the piano himself.

Oh, an orchestra. That's a full orchestra, including all the players. You open up the piano inside. It's not a piano. He's bought like 50 guns or something. It's like check this out. All right. I'm going to show chickens.

You don't have to But I'm gonna you just catch him then slow so oh he's got a full orchestra and there and including instruments and players But all of their instruments convert into weapons Wow, you know like in death by tuba. I was gonna say tuba by tuba. I was gonna say tuba. Oh no. Stop. Bim. Flute would be the worst. What about piccolo? Everyone's like this? Oh, you can't do much with that bang. Straight to the A-O. What is a small coffee? Yeah. Very small coffee. So thank you very much Jason. Dave, do you want to bring it home? Let's bring it home with from a Roppinenjup in Victoria.

I'd like to thank Bradley Teesdale. I'd Bradley Teesdale. Didn't realize you lived in God's country. Rappenjup. No, I didn't say that right, what was it? Rappenjup. Rappenjup. Beautiful part of the world.

Bradley has brought with him the essential John Farnam on CD. Three discs. three discs and a way to play it. Yep. Oh, he has made it. Oh, Bradley. What have you done? I just know if you've got the whole Philharmonic Orchestra. Bradley's like, that's nothing. I got fucking whispering Jack's credit hits.

I got fancy. So you, and it was a three disset in your essay. Yeah, the central was the greatest hits then the sort of the B-sides and rarities and then was the third diss live the even greater hits. Oh wow. Yeah. I'll remember them coming out. It was a real big deal. Oh yeah. This will be the last time. Maybe the last time. I don't know. You know that's the first first version that someone I heard with the John Farnham. Yeah, I think so for me today. I don't remember hearing original version until after, maybe I did. To me, that is the original.

That is, yeah. That's the definitive version. Farns he makes it his own. Yes, he does. It's not a cover. It's a Farns-y song. Do you know what I mean? It's sort of like everyone who came before perform sort of pre-covered him. Yeah, and then once he sang it, they were like, oh, we bowed down to you.

Especially the stones. Their version was, I mean, a pretty good cover. What a tribute. What a beautiful tribute. It was cute. It was cute. Cute attempts. So thanks to Bradley, you know. Unfortunately, the front man, whatever his name is. Mike. Gary, something? Yeah, Mike Garrison or whatever.

Mike Arnold. Yeah, unfortunately he does not have the voice. Apparently he's got some good moves. Well, I'm yet to say him. But the voice does not match. Mike Gagger. Gagger. Mike Gagger.

Mike Gagger. I love his work. It's a good name. Yeah. It's a good name. Unfortunately, VM, best thing about him. Yeah, but that stops there. Oh, wow.

Bradley, thanks for your contribution to us and also to the island. That 3D set will keep us warm. Do you have this next person brings some sort of a CD player. And from Farmington, Connecticut, Brianna Spencer. Brianna Spencer brings a record player. So close. Oh, but no records.

No. We've got the three Dix CD in there. What an unsatisfying list of artists have got going on. They try putting the CDs on. Oh, I just started a fight. I just screamed. fight. Well, they invent fire. And everyone knew that. I mean, as soon as fans he recorded those, his producers had say, you just created fire. And, yeah, history repeated itself on the

island. So thanks to Rana from Connecticut. Thanks for supporting us. And one of the two CEOs along with Colorado. All right, now. My expert category on one of those shows we get to pick one of those. I'll start a factor is US states. Even though last week we were like, oh there's only one that starts with L. Oh hang on, no there's seven.

I don't have twelve. No they all start with L I think. Every single one of them. Lock it in. No there's only one L. Only one L. So all right. Louisiana.

Yeah it was a different one than we said. Yeah it was I. I said there's only one I but there's three eyes for us Idaho, oh my god is the first I was the last Indiana and Illinois Illinois Illinois but From a another side of the part of the planet from Dunn Garvin Waterford in Ireland I would like to thank Thomas Goodall.

Thomas Goodall. Thomas Goodall. All right, I know I'm gonna bring back somebody since to this discussion. Yeah, all right, Dad. And I did. You know fun, Dad. Oh, okay.

No, you've given me inspiration. What would my dad bring? Be a trailer with a tarp? That's not a dad thing. And seven okey straps. They can tow anything. No car. It's so useless. We get one of the... I used to have so much fun, dad would need to use the trailer for something. And it'd be like, he'd like... Come out, boys, we need to use the can away.

So he'd sit in the back of the trailer. So it... Because when it's empty, it's front heavy. Of course. So you can't wait at the back back and then he pull you along. That was a real thrill. Yeah, I grew up in the old days. How was the biggest thrill you got?

When dad said, Want to ride in the back of the trailer? Does it pull it up the drive? He'd back up his horse and W. Put in reverse. It's a horse. Thomas, thank you for bringing in the trailer. Thomas good. We thought he's trying to talk so Yeah, so that's pretty good. You can tap if you could actually put a lot of stuff in the trailer, too. Yeah, fire would give it dry

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And he had a talk show briefly and his friend, Chris Martin, from Coldplay was a guest. And he asked, Chris Martin, he said, what's your favorite Coldplay song? Monser Scientist. I'm sure I bring this up every time you bring that up and that as I saw Coldplay four or five years ago and Shane Warren came out and played harmonica with the band. I don't remember you ever saying that. I feel like I'd remember that. I remember it was a stadium and I could still feel the crowd was baffled.

And we're going, why are you here? Is that warning? The warning. They come out to this small little stage to do an acoustic song. The cheek of twig. And then yeah, they're all playing acoustic instruments in there and out from underneath. Shane then yeah, there are playing acoustic instruments and then from out from underneath, Shane Warn. If there was Huey Lewis like a famous harmonica player, then sure.

That's fucking morning. So funny. So weird. He's also, there's a cold play contour where they got Michael J. Fox out and they played the songs that Michael J. Fox played as Marty McFly. That's a cool at the undersea ball or whatever it was in the first back of the future. Earth Angel and Johnny McGood. So I'm very classic. Liza and L.A. last year and she brought up McCulley Colken. No context. He just danced for about a minute and then left. Oh the guy from the pizza band. The pizza band. You went to a Liza one L.A.

Yeah, that's why the world story. That's my last concert before the world went to shit. That's good. We can't get a live concert in Australia. Because she took a while to get big in Australia at least. Where was she on the ride? Did she already explode? Yeah, already huge, but the dates have been booked

way earlier in the year, so it was only about two or three thousand venues. I imagine. I only looked two or three thousand. So like, yeah, that is tiny for her, I imagine. Ah, and she, I remember, she played a song and she goes, this song is number one in the Billboard charts right now. And I was like, I've never seen an artist play the number one song at the time. Yeah, that's pretty clear. So she just absolutely exploded, yeah. I was going to see the darkness and then that got cancelled. Oh, I think it made me mad. I think it made me mad.

I think it made me mad. I think it made me mad. Yeah, right. Oh, I missed the national. You're missing the national? You're going to that one, yeah? I don't think I've seen the national. I like, but they were, they were, sorry, they canceled in April.

Right. My Harry Potter on the Curse child tickets have just been postponed until March of next year. Yeah, right. I hope you'll see. I hope so. Anyway, thanks everyone for the support to show on Patreon, the only other thing to do is a check. If anyone's coming in to our famed TripDitch Club.

Okay, well, I just double check this. Dave, do you want to explain what it is? Maybe, yeah, explain what it is. Thank you so much. And then Jess tells us what drink and or doors we're having and you've got a band booked hopefully. Certainly do. Now, the TripDitch Club, it's where if people have been supporting the show for three consecutive years on that shout out, ask broad level or above above. We like to thank them again by inducting them into sort of a club slash whole of fame slash fun zone. Which is a little place that we've set up

and once you're in, you can never leave, but you don't wanna leave. No. Yeah, I mean, we've never really encountered anybody who's wanted to leave. I suppose if someone did, we would let them, but. But you know, honestly, you did not want to. Honestly, that's a request we have not had yet. It's a club made out of heaven.

Yeah. Made out of heaven. Oh, that's okay. So, food wise, food and drink wise. Obviously, we're having some sort of banana dish, maybe just bananas, but on Sundays. Oh, yes. And drink wise, but on Sundays. Oh, yes. And drink wise, rum in coconuts.

Oh, yes, I love any sort of rum drink, any coconut drink, please. I hate both, but you can go to town. I love them. You know, I don't cater just to my needs. Of course. It's the peoples. And I've also done that by booking our musical act tonight, which is of course cold play

featuring Shane Warren Coldplay a more of a backing band and it's Shane Warren harmonica solo the whole time fuck you There will not be playing any cop plays songs sadly. Could we please get Hugh Craig the third As backup harmonica maybe just off stage filling out his sound a little bit. Here I am in the third, of course, the front man from Huey Lewis and the news. The titular Huey Lewis. Yes. Alright, he can do a backup harmonica, and you might know what they might even do, Warnie's favorite, the scientist.

Mine's a scientist. So. The scientist is a fine song. Yeah, it is. I don't think it's my favorite cold play, but I haven't thought that much about it to be honest. Hmm. Yet here I am. Anyway, Matt, have you found them? Yeah, there's. I don't think it's my favorite cold play, but I haven't thought that much about it to be honest Yet here I am anyway, I'm out of you found them. Yeah, there's quite a few great. Welcome them in Okay, well firstly I'd love to invite into the club What did you say at what I'll do?

Yeah, we're having banana sundays banana sundays and Coral and coconuts. I said the music was gonna be Huey Lewis in the news and Shane called my open forum. Is that right? Oh, the other way around. You got a cater to the times. Shane was big right now. Huey Lewis as Shane Warn played sports.

That's what he's famous for. He's got income with Huey Lewis. That's actually a better connection than I ever thought we'd do. We mentioned Listen Nowours starting season two. This week started on Monday starting with Huey Lewis and the news is sports. And we're going through the top 20 rock albums from the 80s as voted by listeners. Love that. So Huey Lewis and the news is sports came in at number 20.

And it was a real fun time. Okay, so entering into the club hold up that velvety rope for... Okay but my arms are getting tired so... From Holt in the Australian Capital Territory it's a Robert Radell. Robert Radell, oh the Radell! From Piedmont, Oklahoma it's Oliver Roselle. Oh the Roselle. Oh that's right. From the Isle of What in Great Britain it is Harry Green. The Greenery is here. From Rockledge in

Florida United States it's Tony Martinez. From Homeb, New South Wales, Australia, it's Kalen Rankins. Ranker! Oh, the rank. The rank. From Auckland in New Zealand, it is Mark Taule. Oh, always carry a towel. From Honitan in Devon where they do sconsrite, cream first, then the jam. It's Michael Killing.

Oh, Killing it tonight. From... Carrick Fergis. The part of the show. Carrick Fergis in County Anthrium. I think in Northern Ireland, Great Britain, it is Ian Irving. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Hahaha.

That's tonight we'll be Irving. Ian. From Sanctoloph in SE. Is that Sweden? Is that? Yeah, exactly. I can Sweden. It is Lucas Banksaxter. Oh, I'm

catching out tonight. You can bang on that. Oh, thanks. You can bang on that. And we got that, guys. Finally. We are professionals from Prostor in Washington, the United States. It's Patrick Burnett. United States. It's Patrick Burnett. Oh, got nothing. Burnett. Burnett. We're gonna burn it tonight. Burn it at our both hands. What are we putting for the last week? We're sad of King.

You're the man. You're the man. You're the man. I'm so good. It's so stupid. It's my favorite bit of the show. It's watching Dave's face as he sits there listening and he's the co-exit- oh very good. That's two weeks in a row where the first few names were like, God this is so easy. I'm so good at this. And then it's like, Oh, Jesus. Oh, no. I think it's just the pressure building because I reckon, no, you, you turned something, you turn, there was something that you turned in it. What is Martin as? What for that?

Martin as ah. Yeah, that's not. You just, you just went straight into it and then burn it like could be you burn you know Burn it up the place fire you're on fire burn, you know, that was a really you're like well, there's nothing here So the well is strong. Oh, it's very funny. I thought you were doing a bit Just hands out you were out of out of juice. Well, no, mean, I was doing a bit at first, but then I realized, hang on, I've got nothing. I've got nothing in it. So thanks everyone that does support the show and welcome to the greatest club on Earth. And we are, we're currently talking to someone about redesigning our website.

So maybe we'll have to ask them about having a page for the TripDitch Club to... We've got to mention that. Gold Spark sparkly font which hasn't been invented yet but hopefully this I mean this would be the real test how good this guy is a yeah can you do gold sparkly font then yeah you're the man for us you're the web designer for us you're the only one yeah after design and you algorithm, but anyway, as per usual, if you want to get in touch, you can do so at all of our social media is at do go on pod. We do go on pod at gmail.com and our website is do go on pod dot com everything is there. And you can also support us on patreon patreon.com forward slash do go on part, you guessed it. You guys never let me talk for this long, please help me.

Well that brings us to the end of the episode, what a fun time it has been. Whenever you're listening to this in the future you should get tickets to our live streams, so much fun and I think it really hires the experience. Totally and we say live stream but you can also catch up on it and have it forever So even if you listen to this three years in the future Hopefully that link in the episode you can still click on it and you can go back and watch all the old A lot what was a live stream. Yeah, it's basically just a live show. That's right. Yeah, go back watch it cancel us Yeah, see a bit of history. I guess and

Yeah, I mean really just catch a bit of history, I guess. And yeah, I mean really, you just catch a bit of history. Because it would be important to be like, geez, they're now presidents of the galaxy. Wow, this is where it started. That's interesting. That's interesting. That's where that campaign began. But until next week, well thank you for listening. And I'll say goodbye.

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