Do Go On - 248 - The Real Lord Of The Flies

Episode Date: July 22, 2020

In 1954,William Golding wrote a book about a bunch of boys going nuts when they were stranded on an island. But just over a decade after that fictional novel was published, it actually happened! And the real life boys behaved in a very different way to their fictional counterparts. This is an amazing story of survival, friendship and a little bit of luck!Buy tickets to our live streamed shows on July 18 + 25, August 1st + 8: https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoonSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodCheck out our web series: https://www.youtube.com/user/stupidoldchannel Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicVote for the albums to be covered on Listen Now:https://www.eSurveysPro.com/Survey.aspx?id=b43703e6-0295-4c89-9235-c92351a83a48Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/13/the-real-lord-of-the-flies-mano-totau-survivor-story-shipwreck-tonga-boys-ata-island-peter-warnerhttps://www.abc.net.au/radio-australia/programs/pacificbeat/pacific-reax-to-tongan-story/12246480?fbclid=IwAR3vQ1h4iuBn1V9itM5hiQ71vOXp6eR3wzmFIyngz7i8UMi0cPjO28Uc0VM

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My name is Dave Warnocky, and as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hello. Hello. It's so good to be here. inside the podcast with my two best friends in the world, Jess Perkins and Dave Warnocky. Still. I've never thought about how we're...

I shut you down every time you say it and you keep... My besties. Oh, wow. All right. No, I'll reciprocate. The two I trust my life with. Oh, man. Oh, that's a bad choice for me.

You shouldn't have picked me. Dave's hopeless. Oh, my God. I'm very capable. Especially if they're like, all right, to save Matt's life, you must cook a three-course meal. Oh, no. I'm so sorry. Matt's death.

I wouldn't even walk into the kitchen. I'd just accept that you were dead. I'd just instantly start mourning you. Just like RuPaul, seeing that guy drowning. All right, so that might be one of those editing points, I'm sure. Now you're just doing it on purpose. Apparently, RuPaul prayed instead of calling 911. Thanks, RuPaul.

Allegedly. Hey, Dave, how does this show? show work? This show works where we take it in terms to report on a topic often suggested by a listener and whoever's doing the report goes away, does a bit of research, brings it back to the group and the other two people have no idea what the

topic's going to be. This week it is Jess's turned to report. We always get onto topic with a pesky little question. Yeah, cheeky little question. My question this week is a recent viral article compared real life events to that of which classic novel?

984 Basically just think of novels, I guess Classics The Great Gatsby No Spot goes to the beach Oh God, I wish What a day spot had

Lift Up the Rock It's little crab in there Love that Hitchhiker's Guide of the Galaxy No Poirot's Day at the Beach Oh and again Lift Up the Rock

Murder As the Little Griselle Said to Lift Up Zirok Oh murder weapon Is that rude probably? A viral article. Viral article. Viral, okay.

Okay, I'll think of how many words. Give us a stronger clue. Five words. To kill a mockingbird. No. God, that was fast. That's four words. The last word is an insect.

I want to see if people are commenting along as well. No. Lord of the Flyers. Yes. Lord of the flies. Well done. Well done. Technically, flies aren't insects? No, it's not true.

There's technically a type of ant. So yes. So the, well, I'll just start the report. I was going to just sort of editorialize a bit there, but I've written it all down. Yeah, that's go for it. So I'll just get started, I reckon. Well, this is very, very exciting.

It might be, you might have heard or seen the article, but I'll explain a bit of a back story. first. So, in 1954, future Nobel Prize winning author William Golding published his allegorical novel, The Lord of the Flies, in which a group of prepubescent boys are stranded on a deserted island

after surviving a plane crash. What happens next is a combination of power struggles, paranoia, mayhem, and murder. Oh my God, it's the real life of that. Whoa. It's a real life for that. However, the novel is obviously fiction, and recently

a viral story showed us that perhaps that's not quite how people would behave in that situation. There's a Dutch historian called Rutger Bregman, and he released a new book, Human Kind, A Hopeful History, in May of this year. Now, he describes the book as being about a radical idea that most people deep down are pretty decent. Crazy.

He's not fully going in there. They're pretty decent. Yeah, they're all right. At a base level, they're okay. Yeah. He tells stories of humanity and community in times of extreme crisis like Hurricane Katrina and the Blitz of the Second World War

and when publicizing his new book, he wrote an article for The Guardian about one of the stories he researched for humankind and within four days, the article had been read over seven million times. Wowzers. It blew up, it went nuts, it spread all over the world. The article was titled,

The Real Lord of the Flies, what happened when six boys were shipwrecked for 15 months? Oh, I did see this article getting around. That's a long time. I remember the article as well. Yeah. I did not remember it saying 15 months. Yeah, that is a long time.

So that's sort of how... What's like three years? Bloody hell. What's that in human years? Little boy years, 15 months, yes, but human years. In human years, what is that? It's about three weeks, I think. Wow.

Yeah, it was a holiday. It was lovely. Yeah. So that's kind of how this story became globally known. It was definitely a story that was known within their community, within their country. Yeah, those boys and their families, they knew about it. They knew the story. Their neighbors, they knew. Yeah.

You know, people at parties. You know, so there was like people knew about it. People at parties, you definitely bring that story. That's a great party story. You'd get sick of talking about it, I reckon. Hey, come out, Matt, come over here. Tell everyone about the time that you were shipwrecked for 15 months. As a boy, when you were butter boy.

When you were tiny boy. So this is that story. So it all started in June of 1965 with six. six boys, all pupils at St. Andrews, a strict Catholic boys' school in Nuku alofa, which is the capital of Tonga, ranging from, it says 13 to 16, but in another place I read about 15 to 17, but they're all over the shop. I know. I reckon it's probably more likely there, 15 to 17.

Sioni, Stephen, Kolo, David, Luke and Mano had one main thing in common. they were bored. And boys. They were boys and they were bored. They were bored of schoolwork and desperate for some adventure. So they came up with a plan to go for a sail. They thought maybe they'd see if they could make it to Fiji or even to New Zealand, which, by the way, they are in two different directions.

So probably make up your mind before you leave. It's in the same direction if you just keep going all the way around. That's true. Who knows what the wind's doing. You know, you hoist that sail. Who knows where we're going to end up? See what happens. You go to Fiji, you go to New Zealand, either or.

I mean, Fiji was 500 miles or 800 kilometres away. That's ambitious. So it's pretty far. New Zealand is in the opposite direction and way further. Usually it's the kind of thing where you get into it and you're like, see that island 20 metres over there? Yeah. Do you reckon we could go there? Let's do that.

And then you can't get there. No, it's too hard. But that was their plan. A couple of obstacles. They didn't have a boat. Okay. Sailing is a lot easier with a boat. Would you say it's also...

A sailboat in particular? Easier with sailing experience. Yes? They did not have that either. But how do you get sailing experience? First, you get a boat. Yeah. Which they didn't have.

Then you sail. Then you sail. Yeah, I agree. So they're basically, they're going for a swim. You can go on as many boat simulators as you like. Yeah, and I've been on all of them. But it's not the same as the real thing. No.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Drop the anchor. Blunk. You know, like I played heaps of Mario Kart. got my driver's license and I was like, whoa. Whoa, where are the bananas? Where are the shell things?

I'm not allowed to bump into other cars to knock them off the road. Oh my God, mum. I've listened to Rod Stewart's sailing heaps. And still, when I got on a boat, I fell right off. I had no idea. Yeah. I've listened to all those songs. Shipping up to Boston by the Dropkick Murphys.

I've listened to these tracks. My favorite show growing up was shipped to shore. Yeah. Love it. Great song. That's all the experience you need. Well, let's... Let's not go on a boat journey, I think, maybe.

Well, I still want to do a podcast in International Waters. Yeah, we'll make that happen. I've got no international waters experience, not stopping me. How about Hermes and Darkest? Maybe one of the great villains on the small screen. I don't know who that is. Oh, Kirk, was it? It's he the bad boy with red hair?

Someone I really could grow up looking up to. Is it Kirk? Dave, do you remember? I can't remember any character's name. You told me it was your favourite show. It's my favourite show. It's my favourite show. I don't know anything about it.

It's my favourite. Anyway, so yeah, they don't have sailing experience or a boat. So they decided to borrow a small 24 foot, so 7.3 metre boat from a fisherman that they didn't like. It's a bit of a grumpy old man, though we'll just take his boat. We'll borrow it. Now, if you're going out on a sailing adventure, what kind of things do you think you might pack? A boat. Boat.

Great. Like a spare boat? Yeah. Like a dingy. Yeah. I suppose. What else might you take? Food.

Yep. Fresh water. Great. Medical supplies. Medical supplies. Citrus fruits for scurvy. Oh, of course. Yeah.

Like a vitamin C. But maybe a map. Yeah, map. Compass. 15 months of supplies. 15 months of supplies for what you assume is going to be a pretty short journey. A tent. Yep.

Building supplies. Buildings. Bricks. Mortar. Okay. Cement mixer. An architect. They just got on like a bit of a sail.

I don't think they're planning on starting a new... An Oculus Rift so I could pretend I'm sailing in 3D. They're on a boat using Oculus. Oh yeah, you can smell the salt. But they're stuck in a storm and they're like, I don't like this. Calm water's for me. Oh, it's beautiful. Oh, that's lovely.

I'm catching a fish. I've got three fish. Why am I so wet? Because I'm loving it So they didn't pack maps or a compass No map or compass They did take two sacks of bananas I love a sack of anything

A few coconuts A few coconuts How do you How do you I mean they come in a bunch already I know I can't I'm not sure how many bananas

I'm imagining I'm imagining fairly large sacks But who knows Yeah How many bananas do you reckon in two sacks You don't call it a sack If it's small Yeah, you're right.

Is that a pouch? That becomes a pouch. Is satchel short for sack? Is that small sack? Sactual? Satchel. Satchel. Do you think?

I'm doing it. I don't think. Have I finally cracked that old code? We're disagreeing with you. Scientists have been looking into that for eons, which is like three or four decades. Wow, but how many in kids years? Oh, good. It's hard to do the maths on that.

So, yeah, they've got two sacks of them. bananas, which who knows how many that is, but it's not a satchel. It must be a lot. Yeah, it's probably a few coconuts and a small gas burner. That's it. Sacks of bananas. Yeah. A couple of coconuts.

A couple of coconuts. Take lots of coconuts. So one evening, they snuck onto the boat and they took off. No one seemed to notice the boat leaving the harbour. So their journey started off well, but that first night, they made the mistake of falling asleep. Oh, no. Oldest trick in the book, sleeping at nighttime.

In the middle of the night, they awoke to giant foaming waves crashing over the boat. Oh, I grabbed the Oculus. This is awful. Oh, that's better. They hoisted the sail, which was promptly destroyed. Next to go was the rudder. So now they have no way to steer the boat. They start their steering wheel, right?

Yeah, but it was at this point ornamental. Oh, no. Yeah. So they were stranded in the middle of the ocean. without food, water or any supplies. They drifted for eight days. Okay. They tried to catch fish with no success.

They collected rainwater in the coconut shells. You said drifted. Do you mean rifted? Like Oculus rifted? Yeah, they rifted. They took turns. Look, there's Big Ben. I'm in London.

I'm in London. All the boys bar one are going, oh, this is a nightmare. One of us goes, oh, well, I. Governor. Jolly good day. He's having a great time for now. So, yeah, they collected rainwater in coconut shells and they shared around by taking one sip each in the morning

and one sip at night. That's all they had. You'd be policing the sip pretty hard. Everyone's watching you take it. That's a gulp, buddy. That's a mornyline gulp. Spit it back. You don't get any water tonight.

Oh, damn it. Everyone knows two sips. It's a gulp. That's something I would have also. A desalination plant. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that would have been smart on a small boat. Should have done it.

Should have done it. Cioni tried to boil seawater to drink using the little gas burner that they had, but it tipped over burning his leg. It's like just things just not going well. That is unlucky. So is that a thing you can do? You boil the salt out of the water. That's cool.

I didn't know about that. I've never heard that. I reckon we should fact jack that before we're on our boat. On our boat. things are going very well it do go on we've got a fleet so on the eighth day

they spotted land the land that they spotted was Atta an uninhabited island 160 kilometres or 99 miles south-southwest of Tongatapu which is the main island of Tonga that's so exciting

it hadn't always been uninhabited in fact in June of 1863 about 350 people were living on Atta and the Tasmanian captain Thomas James McGrath of the whaler, Grecian, decided that whaling wasn't profitable enough. He was going to go into slave trading. So he came along to Atter and invited the islanders on board for trading. This was pretty normal. Islanders were used to trading with passing ships, stuff like pigs, chickens, sugar cane, potatoes, all sorts of stuff. It was very normal. So he's arrived and said, hey, come on board for some trading.

So they did. But once almost half the population was on board, doors and rooms were locked and the ship sailed away. 144 people never returned. He just turned up and took half the population of this island. Whoa. That's fucked. It's insane.

So King George... When was that in 1863? Yeah. And is not that long ago. No. And the king of Tonga at the time, having heard of these kidnappings, sent three ships to Atta to evacuate and reset all the rest of the people who lived there. So all of a sudden, it's gone from being, it's a small island and it's gone from being this lovely community of 350 people to being uninhabited. Right. It's ghost town. So there's still, like, there's still stuff there for the boys to live in and whatever. A hundred years later.

A hundred years. So it's nice and antique. That's what I'm looking for. Yeah, I just want, I want these walls to talk, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, new, it's so yucky. It's just stale. It's got no, low personality. I want, I want the wood to be soaked in history, you know, that sort of thing.

And I guess, yeah, this would be. That would have had, like, you know, turn of the century. I don't know how to talk about houses, but fuck, imagine if I could. It would have been a lot of fun. It would have been a fun risk. I thought it was, some of my brain would have led to something. You'll get somewhere with that.

But it didn't. Here it comes. Here it comes. Cornices. Oh, look at the ceiling. Oh, what a beautiful sconce. So back to the story, 100 years later in 1965,

when the boys had spotted land. By the time they actually drifted close enough to the island, it was really late at night. Mano swam ashore to suss out if the island was to see if it was safe. And despite not being a massive distance to swim, it took him a long time because he was so weak from lying in the boat for eight days without food and water. This is a quote from him.

What does that tell you? When I reached the shore, I tried to stand up, but when I stand up, the whole world is spinning. So I laid down and crawled ashore, and when I touched the dry grass, I lied down. The other boys were calling out to him trying to see if he was okay and if it was safe, but he was too weak to stand and signal them. So he just yelled out that he was alive. I'm alive. Wait. What are you saying? Are you alive? Yes, I'm alive. Mate, we can't find out what you're saying. Are you alive?

Yes. Yes. More. No. Stand up if you can hear me. Just fucking go. I need a rest. So the others slowly also made their way to land. Nah, this island, it's, yeah, I'd killed me straight away. Sorry, guys. You'll have find your own island. Bye. Bye.

Salon. He claims it. Mine. So anyway, yeah, the others come make their way onto the land as well. And he said, we were very happy, but the first thing we did was we said a prayer, thanked God for what he brought us to. Then, desperate to quench their thirst, they hunted seabirds, drank their blood,

and drained their eggs. Holy shit. What a way to quench a thirst. I know. Oh, my God. Yep. But you've also got to be pretty, skilled and talented to do that. Yeah. Because if we were there, we'd be like, that's a, that's a good idea.

How are we going to get that? Yeah. I mean, yeah, sure, that's a great idea to kill a sea bird and drink its blood to quench your thirst. It's a great idea. And we've got a little gas burner, so I guess we could cook the chicken, the meat or something. No, no, I just want the blood. How do I get that blood into this cop? That's all I'm on.

I got eggs. You could eat the eggies. How do I get the blood out of these eggs? Is this the kind of island that you can, you know, you can see one side of other, like a tiny island? Or is it... It's a bit bigger than that, but it's quite small. Because, yeah, I'd be... My first instinct would be to find water source.

Yeah. Fresh water. Yeah. But I like that they went straight to killing birds. They went straight to fresh blood. You like that. That's good. So after they got some sustenance, they collapsed and fell asleep, the sunrise, waking them the next day.

They survived initially on fish. coconuts, tame birds and obviously the bird eggs as well. Tame birds. Well, later when they got to the top of the island, they did a little bit of exploring. They found an ancient volcanic crater where people had lived a century before. There the boys discovered wild taro, root vegetable, bananas and chickens, which had been reproducing for the hundred years since the last time it's left. There's like six million chickens in this hole.

There's so many chickens. So they're like, oh my God, they've found vegetables, they've found chickens. It's a paradise. They're like, oh my God. Not for the chickens anymore. It was a chicken paradox. And the chickens are like, this is living. What the fuck is that?

Oh, God, they're back. How old are these chickens? A hundred years old. No, but they're just reproducing and just living, like, just living their best lives. Oh, that does sound nice in an island. They named the chicken island. Not very inventive, chickens. One of the boys, Stephen, he managed, after several failed attempts,

to light a fire using two sticks. That old, we've all tried, and he managed. First man to ever do it. Wow, you're interneted fire. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. That's where fire came from. One of the plot points in the book, Lord of the Flies, is around the fire and how it has to be maintained in case of passing planes.

And of course, one of the kids abandons his responsibility, and the plane goes by, don't get rescued and it's this whole big fight in the book. But in real life, these boys tended the fire and it burnt for the entire time they were trapped on the island. Wow, that's cool. So they agreed to work in teams. They sort of paired up and they had a strict roster for garden, kitchen and guard duty.

Because now that they found these vegetables and stuff, they created their own little garden where they planted veggies. So they'd grow their own food and stuff. Yeah, the tarotash roots or whatever. Marrakesh roots. If arguments occurred, the people involved would go to opposite ends of the island to cool off. Think about what they've done? Very mature.

It is. And after a few hours, they'd come back together and the others would make them apologize to each other. Do it. Say sorry. No, like you mean it. That was always the thing when you were a kid. Mean it. Remember, you'd go, sorry.

Like you mean it. You're like, sorry. That's better. Yeah, it's parents. I can't be bothered this. Yeah. I don't have twice. I tried.

Mano says that's how we stayed friends by cooling off and apologising. Good lesson for everyone. Their days began and ended with song and prayer. Colo fashioned a makeshift guitar from a piece of driftwood, half a coconut shell and six steel wires salvaged from their wrecked boat. And he used it to lift their spirits. He'd play guitar. That is so amazing.

Any other song he played? Do do do do do do. Do do, do, do do do. It's a very good guitarist. I think one of them, I think it's Peter, still has that guitar. Wow. And that was actually the first Gretsch guitar. The white velvet.

What year was this again? 65. Yeah, guitar was invented in 65. Wow. As with all stories. Jeez, that's so close to an important year. Oh, they're there for 15 months. Shut up!

I get to say him! As with all stories like this, though, things just, you know, really don't go there well. They tried constructing a raft in order to leave the island, but it fell apart and the crashing surf. The water was too strong. Another time, Stephen slipped and fell off a cliff, breaking his leg. Sorry, I just didn't. Fell off a cliff, is quite dramatic. It's like, whoa, oh, my God.

So he broke his leg and the other boys climbed down and helped him back up to the top, where they set his leg using sticks and leaves. These boys are so resourceful. Yeah, it's amazing. I would die so fast. Mostly because I'd give up. I'd be like, oh, it's too hard. You wouldn't have made it to Chicken Island.

There's no coffee here. What? We've only got a sack of bananas and coconuts on day one. I don't like coconut. The sale is still working at this point and you've already given up. I'm like, oh. You get there at the cafe, but it's like a chain. You're like, oh.

Oh, stop. I guess I'll have. have a caramel frappuccino or something? But what's the point? There's only so much You don't have bagels! I forget you're a

you're a bit of a coffee snob I. Big time. That's why I'm enjoying this dare iced coffee. Yeah, well, I mean, it's the coffee snob's choice of iced coffee.

Oh, absolutely. And also the Saints, one of the Saints major sponsors. Saints, a little team that I might reference in the coming months. In the coming 15 months. So over the following,

months, the boys set up a number of things to survive. Like I said before, they had a small little commune with a food garden. They had hollowed out tree trunks to store rainwater. Apparently they had a badminton court and a gym. Like they'd just found heavy things to make weights.

But I want to go back to the badminton court. Well, they badminton... They just, well, they were boys. They thought shuttlecock was a funny word. And they go, well, let's give ourselves a reason to say that every day. Pass the shuttlecock, David.

It sounds like we did a Patreon bonus episode day where you got us to say our desert island discs. Oh, that's what, yeah, our favourite albums and one luxury item if we were ever trapped on an island. And this island sounds a lot like the island we created with a gym. I did say a cafe. Just as luxury item was a cafe. Yeah, but we could also work there so we could earn some money. Yeah.

Pocket money. To spend at the cafe. They had chicken pens and, yeah, the fire that was burning always. I was like the Olympic torch. The flame. Yeah, the eternal flame. It's sort of like the bangles. It's an eternal flame.

What was that banana-rama? Which is what I call a sack of bananas. They had two bananas-a-tube- They had two banana-ramas on board with them. So yeah, obviously this, I mean, I'm talking about it like, oh, it sounds so nice. It obviously was a terrible time. But they've done the best you can do in this time. Absolutely.

And they've worked really well together as a team. So then Sunday the 11th of September, 1966. September 11, 1966. That is so close to the grand final day. September 1966. As I wrote it, I was like, oh, it's so close to Grand Final. That was a couple of weeks before. Yep.

So, yeah, so 1996, that reminds me of the fact. My team, the St. Kilda Saints, won their one and only VFL, AFL Premiership. Well, to this point, if you're listening to this in a few years' time, it'll be one of two. But at this point, yes, just the one. When Barry Breen kicked that famous wobbly punt for a point, what'd you call me?

You're a wobbly g-day. Oh, no. He said it. That was not intentional. Can we vote that? Nah. That's good fun. Okay.

So September 11, 1966. A Tasmanian man named Peter Warner, who was out in his fishing boat, was making his way back to Australia from Tonga, where he'd unsuccessfully asked to fish for lobster in Tongan waters. The king had said, Nah. So he's on his way home. And luckily he was denied because he took a detour to outside Tongan waters to see if he would have any luck fishing. And do you get a personal meeting with the king?

Yeah. Back then. I don't know. I'm sure now. That is so cool. But also you got rejected. Exactly, yeah. But in person, got rejected.

In person. Because usually you get a rejection letter, it feels so impersonal. But when the king slaps you across the face and says, piss off. Yeah. On your 100th birthday, you get a personalized rejection letter from the queen. My grandparents got a letter from the queen recently for their 70th wedding anniversary and they were sort of like a bit disappointed because it was the same picture that came in the 60th wedding anniversary letter they got.

And I'm like, well, stop being married for so long. Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. Is it too late to be an old? Yeah. Maybe. Objection.

So the queen, does the queen like pen it herself or she just signs it or someone stamps her signature on it? Yeah, they're just like bulk letters where they just put in your name. Oh, that's disappointing. But anyway. Oh, my horsesies. Oh, my horseies. She's got horses and dogs, man.

But she's not looking after him. Somebody else is doing that. Yeah. Oh, my God. Imagine just being in charge of looking after dogs. Yeah, there's a professional dog person. Whoa. What an nightmare.

Also, I mean, I guess if I just got a dog, then I would be in charge of looking after a dog. Whoa. Yeah, you could get a dog. We get a dog club on the show. That would be fun. Get a dog. Anyway. Sorry.

Sorry. I know. I'm just so excited. Gone outside of Tong and Waters for a bit of extra fish. Yeah. He's just scum fishing. He's in no rush to get home. And there in the distance he saw Atta.

He knew of the island and its history, so he knew no one was living there. But he noticed something odd. There were burnt patches on the green cliffs. Oh, no. There's an arsonist. And he thought, that's a bit odd because, you know, we're in the tropics, spontaneous fires don't really happen that much. Huh, that's weird.

So he decides to investigate and he gets kind of close to the island. And one of the crew on his boat says he can hear yelling. And he's like, that's just birds. Like, it's not. Ah. God. It sounds like one of them is yelling, help. Help.

Help. Oh, no. That's a sick bird. That is an inbred chicken. He goes on the island to put this bird out of his injury. Just karate chops. And I'm done. He's like, you're welcome.

You're welcome. I did the right thing there. You're at peace now. Yep. Oh, the hero. So anyway, as I approached the island, he has a look through his binoculars and sees a boy. This naked, long-haired boy leapt from the cliff into the water and started to swim towards the boat.

Oh, man, I'd be turning the boat around. That sounds terrible. That sounds like the ring or whatever. Oh, my God. And they were quite concerned because all of a sudden there's more boys in the water swimming towards the boat and screaming at the top of their lungs. That's horrific. All of a sudden there's more boys in the water.

Every look, there's boys coming out. They're multiplying. Where are these boys come from? Jump scares Boy Yeah, boy This one you think Oh it's safe

I'll come out again Boy! In my head I'm imagining Toddlers too Like the least scary boy But when they're unexplained And all in the water Yeah

Coming at you Kids are the scariest That's why they use them in horror films all the time They're skits Especially they're like Got little bingue shaks Oh yeah Hello

Help me, Daddy. Unless you're English. Yeah, then it'll be normal, I guess. And your kid is just asking for help with something. Like, how is holding a jar of peanut butter saying, can you open this? Help me, Daddy. That's all context. You're the queen.

That's pretty normal for you. All English dads are just terrified all the time. Oh, no. I put down the peanut butter, son. Talk about where do you come from? Help me, daddy. Help me, daddy. In this case, the boys aren't saying that.

They're saying, And the crew on the ship loaded their guns. Oh, okay. Because the boys were coming. The boys are back in town. They were aware that at the time, Polynesian custom was, a lot of the time, they would dump dangerous criminals on remote islands. Oh, so they're like, criminal boys.

Oh, we could be in a bit of danger here. Right. So Stephen reached the boat first, and luckily for the boys, they were able to speak English. And Stephen said, there are six of us. We reckon we've been here 15 months. Peter was quite sceptical, but he radioed to Nuku Olofa and told them that he had six boys with him

who claimed to be students of St Andrews. He gave their names, and the operator called the school to confirm if they were pupils. He was just like, you know, let's make sure these, I'm not bringing criminals back. Yeah, the people at the office are like, yeah, and tell those boys they're in trouble. That is 15 months of class.

They're going to have to repeat you 10. 20 minutes later, the operator came back and said, you found them. So Peter and his crew turned back and take the boys back to Tonga, where hundreds of people apparently turned up to celebrate their return. Their families rejoice. They'd had funerals for their sons. They had assumed that the boys had died.

So they're thrilled. But also waiting when they arrived with a police. Because it turns out, the grumpy boat owner was still pissed that his boat was stolen and was pressing charges. Like a real piece of shit So the boys The real piece of shit He had his boat stolen

What a dog Hey Oh you upset your boath was Your livelihood was taken from you Oh that's a pet you Why are you siding with this guy Everyone's so happy These kids are back and he's like

Yeah back in prison Back they go Yeah no it is weird He's not like oh my boat Is my boat okay No No we broke it Yeah

But we're alive Well I wish it was the other way around Okay, never break anything of Matt's. Never break my boat. That's why we had to get three boats. Matt would not share. Yeah. Two of them are my spare boat.

Very generous about a lot of things except boats. So I must say as well that the boys were all in really good physical condition, which you might not expect because they've been stuck on an island for 15 months. But they've all got sick rigs. They look great. So there was a doctor that assessed them all and was a. amazed at their muscular physiques. Because I had the gym and the bad men.

Oh, yeah. And they're all the, you know, they're just, they're having to catch food. Yeah. Nothing but protein. Chicken, chicken, chicken. Yeah. And they're young, they're teenage boys. Like they're...

We get unfit because we sit to work all day and don't do anything. Yeah, I know. If your life is active, you're probably going to be pretty fit. I guess so. Um, and the doctor even said they did a great job with Stephen's broken leg, which had healed perfectly. No, that is impressive. The leaves.

The leaves. and twigs. I'm like leaves. That's not going to do it. I'm picturing a gum leaves though. They're probably big palm leaves. I was also picturing his leg like that and they're just dropping. You'll be right, man.

You'll be right, man. Again, that's us on the island. I get us going, oh no. I think these boys have a bit more experience. Well, the eucalyptus. It's a beautiful smell. Oh, so soothing. Matt's got a broken leg, smell this. You'll be right.

Anyway, so the boys are stuck in jail and Peter came up with a play. So it occurred to him that the story of their shipwreck was perfect Hollywood material. Now, something I didn't mention was that Peter was the youngest son of Arthur Warner, one of the richest and most powerful men in Australia. Peter worked for his father's company and managed the company's film rights and new people in TV. So from Tonga, he called up the manager of Channel 7 in Sydney, said, you can have the Australian rights, give me the world rights. So he paid the boat owner, 150 pound for his old boat

and got the boys released on the condition that they would cooperate with. the movie. So a few days later, a team from Channel 7 arrived. Wait, can you say that again? What, what, they're sort of... He basically sold the rights to their story. The guy that rescued them. To get some money to pay off the boat owner. Oh, okay. So he was doing it to help them, sort of. Yes. Were they in on it? The boys? Did he... An excellent point. So, a note here is when the article first came out, it was criticized, rightly so, because it was told from the perspective of the white man who saved them. It was all about Peter Warner.

And it also brushed over why the island was uninhabited and when the boys had arrived and the dark history of the island. And people were frustrated that Peter sold the boys' story as if he had any ownership over it. And after this criticism was voiced, The Guardian followed up with another article, which actually interviewed Manor, one of the boys.

And when asked about that criticism, he said, I know a lot of people say to me things about Mr. Warner making money from our story, but who cares? If there wasn't Mr. Warner, we wouldn't have survived and we wouldn't be here to tell our story so if he makes some money from it

good luck to him that's my opinion so and I'll go into it a little bit more at the end as well I don't think he has made money from it and Channel 7 crew turned up there's a whole big section about it in the book Human Kind where they like took this film crew

to the island and it was just like a big mess because they're like Channel 7 reporters, the news reporters, trying to like trek through a really hard mountain, like, island and like, oh, it's hard. And it didn't go well. And you said that I was from Channel 7, Sydney. Yeah.

Sydney. Good luck out there in the bloody bush. Sydney types, you know, with their bloody cups of tea or whatever they do up in the big smoke. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, enjoy your bridge. There's no bridges here. We wade through rivers, though.

Okay? Oh, you want to go to an opera house? Well, unfortunately not. No, thank you. No opera over here. We only have a bad mint and court. So anyway, for saving the boys, Peter was a national hero in Tonga. The king thanked him for rescuing the boys and asked if there was anything he could do for him.

Peter asked if he could start a business in Tonga to trap lobster. The king was like, sure thing. That's what he wants. That's what he wanted all along, wasn't? He wants to start a business. So Peter went back to Sydney, resigned from his father's business and had a new fishing boat made. And then he returned to Tonga and. and hired the six boys as crew for his new fishing boat.

The name of the boat was Atta. I don't know how great, you know, maybe that I don't want to be reminded. But, you know, I mean, the boys had wanted adventure. That's why they took off in the first place. And they were bored. You can see the world now. Yeah, that's amazing. And he hired them all.

You can see the world. Well, look, I might be over selling. You can see some lobsters. Lobsters of the world. Yeah. How would you guys like to earn some lobsters? And they're like $20 notes. Yeah.

I mean, oh no, sorry, literally, literally lobsters. I pay you in lobsters. I'm going to pay you in lobsters. So a couple of points of like what we were talking about there. I mean, that's basically the end of the story. Obviously, they all made it home and they were fine. And the story wasn't all that widely known outside of Tonga until a couple of months ago. But yeah, like I said, it was, it was criticized for a few things.

There's a Tongan author and storyteller, Malika Geisa Fatafai. and she took issue with the story's colonial lens. This is a quote from her. She says, The original article could have done more for the six men. The story should have been told by a Tongan. The story should have been told by the men themselves and their families. This is their story.

This is their story. The article doesn't mention how the boys felt or why they made the choices they made. It lacked their perspective. It lacked the very Tongan story, lacked the very Tongans the story was about, with the exception of Mano. But even then, Mano was cited. He deserved to share his story how he would want to.

And Mano himself said that while he isn't quite ready to tell his story, he thinks maybe he'll write a book with the help of his grandchildren. And the main reason he wants to do that is so that his family will be secure, but his grandkids will have some money when he's gone. Because he's in his 70s now and he lives in Queensland. It does sound like that initial article is just kind of poor journalism if it missed out getting their perspective. I know.

And so that's what's hard about it too. because it was an excerpt from the book, and in the book he does go into more detail, he has interviewed a couple of the boys. And I'm not defending, but, like, you know, you've got to break it down for word limits for an article. So it was just sort of like, here's an interesting story, but it was mostly, I mean, it was told by a Dutch historian

from the perspective of the white Australian who found them, which is amazing, and they're obviously very grateful for him, but it's like maybe reframe it a little bit. Well, you're a journalist. Yes. Quite trade. Me. Yes.

Yeah, that's true. How do you see it? Well, I'm certainly not helping by being another white person telling the story. But for now, it's sort of the only written formal telling of the story. And that's why it is widely known. And I did read that there have been talks about a film with Peter Warner, but also the, I think four of them are still alive. But they're all part of the discussion. Is it going to be made by Channel 7 as a telemovie?

A lot of people have said it needs to be done by Tongan people, not like when we had Ethan Hawke playing a Uruguayan rugby player and alive from one of our past stories. Yeah. Yeah. He played the main guy. Remember Nando, the one who climbed up? It was played by Ethan Hawke.

Oh, he can, geez. He can act the hawk. Yeah, he can transform. So hopefully the story can be told. by them themselves, whether that's in book or in film. But I just thought that is a pretty amazing story of survival and the human spirit. We love a survival story. Love a survival story.

That is quite amazing. 15 months. And yeah, like you say, they were 17 at max. They didn't even know the Saints were winning that premiership. They didn't know. They were doing the hardest thing for them to come back to. They broke the drought when we were on a deserted island. Oh no, we missed the world.

wobbly punt. I wouldn't be surprised if that was one of their first questions. Yeah. Do the Saints win? That would be your first question. If you were away for 15 months, have the Saints won in the last year. Imagine if you missed a premiership. That's when it would happen.

Imagine. That's just such a wild story. So there's not that, there isn't a version of it written where we know sort of their day to day in more detail yet, but that will hopefully be coming. Because that would be fascinating to know, obviously. Wow. Yeah. How many chickens do they eat?

Did they go, we can't eat too many chickens? We need them to keep breeding so we can eat more of these chickens. I know. Did they drink wet eggs every day? Yeah, so that's the story. Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show, the fact quote or questions section, which has a little jingle that's topping the charts around the world, I believe, right now.

The remix is, yes. It goes, fact, quoth, a quack, quack, quack, quack question. Did you do. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, me, me, me, ding. It's really good. He always remembers the ding. Now, the way this one works is people who support us on Patreon on the Sydney Seanberg Deluxe Memorial Edition, rest in peace level, get to give us a fact or a question.

They get all sorts of different rewards as well. They get to vote on two out of three topics. The third, of course, being personal choice by the report giver. They also get three bonus episodes a month, including a bonus report, a quiz type thing or something else, random like that. Or a phrasing the bar episode, which is a new podcast exclusive to patrons where we talk about the films of Brandon Fraser. Oh, man. This month. What are we talking about? It'll be school ties, this one.

School ties. I started with a Matt Damon. Yep. Oh, wow. It's an all-star cast. phrase leading role. And the other, probably, maybe even the most exclusive benefit you get for being on this level of Patreon is getting to give us a factor quote or a question. And this week, because I don't have my computer here, Jess has taken over the role, big shoes to fill.

Also, because I'm perfectly capable. That's big shoes to fill here. I will fuck this up. Not like me Well no that is actually part of the job You gotta fuck it up a little bit In a charming way Okay

Alright let's see if I can be charming Don't pre-read You gotta read it all for the first time on the pod I haven't read anything I promise So we've got a few here The first one is from Liam Goodwin Who's written Life's Good

Real name Liam Goodwin So love that Thank you Liam And that's Has he also given himself a title His title is Lawman of the pod Oh, sweet talking law man.

I love that. I don't know if you're some sort of law enforcement officer, or if you're just a bit of a stickler for rules. Either way, I respect you. Other way, don't hurt me. And Liam, this week, has given us a quote. Oh, yes, fantastic. And the quote is,

coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. Terry Pratchett. Oh, geez, Terry Pratchett is mentioned a lot. uh on this show i reckon that's the second or third time he's been fact quote or questioned probably to be honest we would have been quoted both times has he been questioned and uh we did a primates about him as well about his disc world series so yeah and that was suggested by a bunch of listeners the patrons love terry pratchezs out there oh you got down right there is and he can't be too far away from the world of uh uh

Hitchhiker's Guide as well, similar sort of English fantasy novelists. Yeah, well, we should mention that this week's book sheet that I just put out yesterday features all three of us. You two were very gracious to appear on my show together, and we talked about Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, which is probably one of the top five most requested books I've got. After Plugger, the Tony Lockett story.

Yeah, but I'm saving that for the Big 100. Yeah, that was a really fun episode to do But that is, that's it I really liked it The more I learn about Terry Pratchett, the more I like him I think he's, uh,

He's very fun, funny writer. I haven't read a lot of Terry Pratchett Or any, I should say. I was going to say I haven't read any. He's got good wisdom. Yeah, from that quote.

I read the masquerade when I was backpacking the first time. He picked it up in one of those hostile book swap points. Yeah, what did you swap for it or did you not? Uh, I think I, what's the what's the guy who wrote high fidelity

Nick Hornby his book about being an arsenal supporter or I think it was an arsenal supporter I forget what it's called fever pitch maybe no I can't remember but it was a book about it was sort of like his football supporting biography I swapped that for the pratch for the pratch

love that yeah but that was a great great fact from Life's Good Thank you so much. Thank you, life's good. Our second fact-square question comes from Dan Peterson. Dan has given himself the title of unofficial director of Saints fan recruiting. Okay, appreciate.

Any help we can get. Wow. It's totally worked on us this week. Yeah, get on board, the St. Train. And Dan... Dan's fact is... Oh, another fact. Well, we had a quote before, sorry.

Oh, a new fact. Oh, no, what have I done? I'm not good at this. There we go. While this podcast has thrown its support fully behind the Gary South Shore Railcats, I have decided to use this platform to advocate for my hometown team. I am, of course, referring to Gary's North Division rivals and reigning American Association. Oh, the St. Paul Saints.

Our arch nemeses. Is it? Yes, that's what he's talking about. Professional Baseball Champions. They're referring to Gary's North Division rivals and reigning American Association of Independent Professional Baseball Champions, the St. Paul Saints. I'd like to offer up a fact about the Saints.

Jess can feel free to let me know if it's fun or not. Thank you for respecting. The fact is, The Saints are partly owned by comedy legend Bill Murray. And he has better known to be known to show up unannounced on the opening day of the season to work as a ticket, That's fun. That is, oh sorry. Excuse me.

Unfucking believable. Sorry about that. Well, what do you, what do you think? Please, enlighten me. What do you think? To me, that is unquestionably a fun fact. Oh, unquestionably. Unquestionably, I agree.

I bloody got you, didn't I? You did. You did. You were bit scared, weren't you? I was squirming. I've got to say, that team sounds great, but I've got to give a shout out to my favorite team, which is, of course, another rival to the Railcats from the American Association of Independent Professional Baseball,

the Wichita Wingnuts. Oh, go wingnuts. Yeah, they're the top three for me. Yeah, great team. Wichita. Wichita, is fun to say, too. Where is Wichita? Who knows?

Yeah. It's in America. Probably people from Wichita, I hope. Yeah, it's in the United States for America. Anyway, thank you so much. And the Wichita Lines. To Dan Peters. We had a long Wichita conversation the week you were off.

sick. Oh. Long, Wichita. We're talking about witchy woman by the Eagles. And other things. And other things. Yeah. Wichita Woman by Glenn Campbell, I think, and other such things.

Anyway, that is, that's great. I mean, St. Paul, they're a very good team. If they were in any other league, they would be my team. But, you know, I'm a cat's man till death do us part. Yeah. Fair enough. Go cats. Go rail cats. But Dan, great fact.

Thank you for that. And thank you for your support. All right. On to our next one. It is from James Edwards. Hi, James. Hi, James. The best laugh in the biz.

Well, James has given himself the title of Chief Avoider of live streaming shows by sleeping. Oh, yeah. Because the last time we did... Famously missed them. Yeah, last time we did a run of live stream shows, there would always be a comment not long after of James going, I missed it! In his defence.

In his defence. Yeah, it's 3am where he is in England. So understandable. But at my stand-up show last year in London, he, yeah, I'd almost travel around with him, planting him in the audience. There's like a cheer at a great laffer. Great laffer. And he has given us a question.

Okay. Says having spent an inordinate amount of time helping companies rearrange working environments to suit the new normal of social digital. I wonder how you guys think things will change after restrictions are lifted. Oh, James. Look, restrictions have been put back in place in Victoria. So he says, do you think we will be able to enjoy live comedy shows in the same way we used to? I'm especially thinking about Matt's brilliant stand-up gig at the Bill Murray last year.

Oh, the Bill Murray. Where the audience was packed in like sardines. Yeah, that, I mean, that is really rammed in. You there that night. They do squeeze them in there. Absolutely. There's people in front of you and on the sides of you. It's a real arena spectacular.

Yeah. In the round. So I love that venue. But yeah, I wonder how long it will be. I keep assuming it's going to be back to that before too long. But really, until there's a vaccine,

it sounds like that's unlikely. Yeah. I mean, a lot of, it's kind of interesting to see how many people and organizations have like just figured out different ways to do stuff. Like people here at stupid old who've come up with a way to do live streams

and lots of places are doing that and sort of Zoom gigs and stuff like that. But I think it'll be a while before we go back to how it used to be. Yeah. A long time, probably. I think in other states in Australia it's starting to happen. Gigs are returning. Nature is healing. Are they spreading them out still a bit like people are social distancing?

I think they have to be a little bit spread out. Yeah. But I mean, unless they go backwards like we have, which is, I guess, a very real chance. Maybe they'll keep being able to up the capacities. slowly and I'll watch or watch on jealousy from afar jealously

Jealously James just adds at the end Thanks for everything you do To keep us laughing through this weird situation Thanks James Thanks for your support Yeah and it's very comforting to think of you laughing away In England

And a good question too Annoying your neighbours Imagine being annoyed by someone Just sounding so joyous Yeah Joyful I've had that Like, because, you know, this laugh has been with me for a long time

and people in school being like, oh, God, you laugh so loud. I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry I'm having a nice time. Yeah. Fucking kill joy. Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh, I'm sorry that you have no sense of humour. Oh, did you not get it? Oh, girl schools are very bitchy.

Oh. But it's okay. I turned out. And your laugh? What a great feature. Great feature. It's right up there with James Edwards. Oh, I agree.

I think, I mean, I definitely think his is above me, but I'm maybe a close fifth. Our final fact-word of question for today comes from Roy Phillips. Hi, Roy. Roy is giving himself the title of sole controller of all automatic doors. Oh, fantastic.

That is a massive responsibility. How do you possibly keep up with all of them? We must have sort of Superman-type qualities to be able to get around. Bruce Almighty when he's replying to emails and he's typing really fast. I reckon it must be like that. Maybe he's got Bruce Almighty slash God-like. Skills.

I can only assume, yes. And Roy has given us another quote. And this quote is, Good judgment comes from experience and the vast majority of experience comes from bad judgment. That's a quote from Will Rogers. Do you want that again?

Yes. Yeah, let me hear it. Good judgment comes from experience and the vast majority of experience comes from bad judgment. I guess that's like you learn from your mistakes. Yeah, that's great. You make a bad judgment, you fail,

you learn from it, later you make a good judgment. I like that. Yeah, I think that's good. I mean, it would be great to just always, you know, sometimes people say, like, you need mistakes and that's why you don't have regrets. But if you could, like in this sort of mythical world you're imagining, why not just get things right the first time every time? Then you don't need to learn from mistakes because you never make them. Yeah. I wish you could actually learn from other people's mistakes.

I do sometimes. Yeah, they've got to be pretty big ones. My dad told me so much as a teenager that I was like, whatever, Dad. And then I grew up and went, ah, shit. Yeah, I didn't learn from those kind of mistakes. Dad was like, every time you earn some money, put a bit of it aside. I was like, whatever.

And then I needed to buy a car. And I was like, oh, no. Dad. Look after your ears, Matt. Play loud music. You'll have hearing loss. All right, Dad. Whatever, Dad.

I can't hear you, Dad. What are you saying, Dad? What? My ears will live forever. Or the opposite? I don't care. Live fast. My ears will die young.

I don't care. Thank you very much to Liam Goodwin, Dan Peterson, James Edwards, Roy Phillips. Thank you so much. What a great list of facts, quotes, and saying questions. And yeah, you can get involved with that at patreon.com slash do go on pod on the Sydney Shineberg. Rest in peace, level. And may he rest in peace.

Another thing we like to do for people that support us on the show at the arse prod level or above, it says, arsh. Ash. Yes, I am Sean Connery. Money penny. Bring me the arsh, producer. People that support the show on the ars prod level or above, we give them a shout-out and a thank you for supporting the show. It's funny that the arsprud level still exists because that was named after your position of the project, but you're just full prod now. It's a full prod.

Thank you so much. Your ass, your ass out. My house has been hanging out for a long time. Surprising I'm not having been fired actually. We're going to start, if this is okay with you, we're going to start doing three each. So we get through nine a week just because it is getting away from a little bit where we just want to make sure we get to all the shoutouts.

Yeah, thanks so much for everyone that's been signing up. I have fun. saying their names because they're all good. And I love Jess's games. What game are you going to play this week, Jess? Ooh, that's a tough one. Maybe what they would take to the island. You know how the boys only took a couple of sacks of bananas?

Yeah. Some coconuts? Maybe these nine people are also in the boat. And so on top of the bananas, a couple of coconuts and a gas cooker, they also bring some stuff. Is that fun? I don't know. And they're all there together. So these nine people, they'll be winning.

women and men. Yes. But they're all boys. They're all boys today. They're honorary boys today. Teenage boys with confusing emotions. And confusing hairstyles. Yeah.

God. And it was the 60s. Oh yeah. It would be awesome. Different time. Well, yeah. They wouldn't have to cut their hair. Well, unless we pack them a hairdressing kit.

Okay. Well, let's see. So, mate, I kick this off. Please. Well, I'd love to thank from Como in Western. Australia. Jamie Griffiths. Jamie Griffiths. Co-commo.

That's where I want to go-go-go. Oh, okay. Well, Jamie's from Como, so maybe they bring a comb... Oh, we use a hair dressing kit. Oh, okay, for their mustache, yep. A mustache comb. It's less useful than the hairdressing kit, but it is adorable. Well, what are the hairdressing kit?

It's all in there. There's a normal comb, mustache comb, scissors, hair dryer, straight now. curling wand shampoo conditioner but like good stuff pub clippers pub clippers obviously we have pub clippers

they've also got dry shampoo if you can't be bothered fully washing your hair you get it but you still want to go out on a Saturday night on the island this is how we know

you live with a woman that's right that stuff smells fantastic yeah it does I just had a thought we should let listeners know that if they wanted to watch today's episode

they can buy a ticket sauce presents there'll be a link in the show notes and you can get a season pass to watch that one and the following three weeks if you want as well yeah and it's not just the bonus episode or not the episode there's a bonus sort of episode at the end of it we recorded a um well it was about 40 minutes worth of a game that we call fact finder fact finder fact finder where uh some of the patrons supporters suggested topics and we all went away and uh researched a topic uh fact on that topic and then the people at home voted for whose was the most interesting. It was a lot of fun.

I loved the interactive part of it as well, like waiting for people to vote and, ooh, who's going to be? It's exciting. It made it feel like a live show. Yeah. Which it was, I guess, in a lot of ways. But we haven't had that feeling for a while, so.

Yeah, so that's definitely worth doing if people are keen on that. And I reckon there's a few bits that Jess would have had to have edited it out. You wouldn't have heard, but I think we can't edit it from the live show. They just remain there. So get the earmuffs ready if you got any young children watching with you.

So yeah, Jamie Griffith. Thank you, Jamie. Thank you so much for having the thought to bring your hairdressing kit for the rest of the boys. Really, really handy. As well. I would also love to thank from Victoria Park in Western Australia. Claire, no surname. Claire.

Like a Madonna. Does not need a surname. I like that. What if she brings a ship in a glass bottle? Oh. Okay. That serves zero purpose. Yeah, because you can't use it for water.

No. And you can't use it for a ship. Yeah, but. Nice to look at it. You've got to build it though. Oh. One of those ones. It's an activity.

It's an art project. Something to pass the time. Yeah. Okay. There's 15 months out there. God, you are useless in this. You are no help. I brought a hairdressing kit.

You were clearboard a ship in a bottle. And it doesn't even have the ship yet. She's got to build it. So it's a bottle. She's got a bottle and some bits of... I reckon if she's smart, she just uses the bottle to catch rainwater. Yeah, that would be good.

Creates a funnel with some leaves. Well, that would ruin the artwork. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. Is it possible she could make the ship out of the bottle? No. What was the... When the Simpsons...

No. Who makes the ship in the bottle? Sancho Bob or something. He's making Westminster Abbey. And the clocks are even accurate. And as he's setting it, it gets knocked and he knocks it all over. That's very good. Hopefully, I think that might be our first Simpsons reference.

We needed to get something in them for Jacob, our official Simpsons reference. I took the mustache comb as a Simpsons reference. Oh. Do you remember that? Yeah. What did you get? Moustache comb. What did you get?

Big mustache? Why to kill my mustache? After they go to like a time zone type arcade place. Thank you, Claire. Thank you, Claire. And my third final. shout out today from the fair city of Adelaide in South Australia. Beautiful city.

One of my favorite capital cities in Australia. I mean, they're all very good though, admittedly. I'd love to thank Xander. Zander. Zander brings a sander. Oh my goodness. I can't wait to start helping these poor people out. They've had three things and so far.

Yeah, but I mean, you know, they can chop down a tree and then sand it down. You can't chop it down. Well, they're chopping it down with. Maybe there'll be something later they could chop down a tree with. You couldn't have just brought a whole, like, a tool kit. A toolkit. I know, but it was fun to say.

Yeah. I love... Zanda brings to Sander, along with the rest of his toolkit. Yeah. In his toolkit. Is it too late? No, not at all. So it's a toolkit.

And he makes... From McKita. Wow. Give me my Mekita back Mac is what Zander would say. To Mac. After lending Mac one of his tools. I think Zanda would bring a Sander and he'd work. only work exclusively on making verandas for the island.

For shelter. Perfect. This isn't a Dr. Seuss book, Dave. Or is it? Is it? It is now. It feels like it. Can I thank some people as well?

Oh, that would make me feel so good. Thank you. Thank you, De Zander, again. I would love to thank from Bandura in the ACT. Oh, God's Country. Love to thank Celeste and Josh Van Greensven. Amazing names. Celeste and Josh, two for one.

Celest and Josh, man, Craig. Are they getting two items or are they bringing one collectively? Well, yeah, no, they're bringing a joint couple, a joint couple email account. So that they can be contacted on the island. Celest and Josh at gmail.com. Along with their computer that's hooked up to the internet with unlimited power. Love the idea of them rocking up with the island.

The boys being like, oh, thank goodness you're here. Have you brought any food or shelter we can have? Yeah, we've got a couple's Gmail. Now they're going to join Facebook. That's the worst. It's always Graham and Jean. I've just double checked. Their email is not a joint account.

Thank goodness. Thank God, yeah. Mercilessly. Geez, they got ribbed there, didn't they? People with joint accounts, we got them. When I made, well, not made up, but just put together Celeste and Josh Gmail, I had a quick glance. I was like, not their email.

Thank God. Not their value, not their email. Not their value. Email is not your value people. Thank you very much. Your email address is not your value. I wish it was mine because... Mine's great.

Sex god 69 at hotmail.com. Sex god. You were a menser in the sheets? No. But I stand by it. It's one of your live shows. Is that good or? Genius.

Genius in bed. You're overthinking. Oh, you should see him work in the bed. It's a real master. It's art. Thank you very much, Celeste and Josh. I'd also love to thank from, uh, what's, MI?

Oh, it's in Missouri. Uh, one of the, Michigan. We always, I always. It is Michigan. Michigan. So you got Missouri, Michigan. What are the, there's more MIs than that, though.

The Montana's the only M. You got, uh, Massachusetts. Minnesota. Minnesota. And I think there's, is there not four? Miami. There's three MAs, four MIs and one M-O, I'm pretty sure. What a way to remember it.

Missouri. Michigan. Michigan. Oh, Mississippi. Mississippi and Minnesota. Yes. But from Michigan. Love to thank Paul Jackby.

Oh, Paul Jackby. all Jackby, this man does not need vowels. He does not need vows, but what he does need and what he brings to the table is. And the U and another A. But in Jackby, there's J-A-C-K-B. He brings a professional chef set, which includes all cookery, crockery, knivory, and... Cutlery! Oh, the real one?

I'm going to say stovery. He also brings a lot of sass, connivory. Canavery. He's watched Survivor before. Yeah. He'll stab a few people in the back to survive that thing. He's ready to play the game, even though everyone's like, dude, we're not playing a game.

No one is at Whitting or Out playing. We're surviving together. The host is not coming here. The tribe will not be speaking. Do not. Stop voting who you want to leave. It's mean. He holds people's names up on a piece of paper.

No one can leave. Paul, no one can leave. Paul, if you've got an issue with someone, just talk to them, please. Stop just holding their name up on a piece of a piece of paper. We've got a system, you walk to the other end of the island and cool down. Stop wasting all the paper. I'm not a cameraman. Stop addressing me like I'm the viewers at home.

There are no viewers at home. Well, don't write my name. What the fuck's saying? Love you, way, Paul. He won't be the cameraman that he's here to be. So I'm voting off, Dave. Thank you, Paul. And finally, I would love to thank from Clearwater, Florida.

Oh, great name. It sounds lovely. It sounds like paradise. Sounds so nice and I hope you love it there. Jason Frey. Oh, Jason Frey. Piano. Oh, great choice.

Full grand, full baby grand. Of course. Well, I feel like from the rule that we've created, that's just the tip of the iceberg. He's also brought an orchestra. He built the piano himself. Oh, an orchestra. There's a full orchestra, including, you know, all the players.

You open up the, the, uh, The piano and inside it's not a piano. He's bought like 50 guns or something. It's like, check this out. All right. I'm going to shoot chickens. You don't have to. But I'm going to.

You can just catch them. They're slow. So, oh, he's got a full orchestra and there, and including instruments and players. But all of their instruments convert into weapons. Wow. Imagine death by a tuba. I was going to say tuba. Oh, no.

Stop. Horn. Beep! Flute would be the worst. What about, Piccolo? Everyone's like, that's, oh, you can't do much with that. Bang, straight to the aorta. What is it, a small coffee?

Very small coffee. So, thank you very much, Jason. Dave, do you want to bring it home? Let's bring it home with, from Ruppen-Yupp in Victoria. I'd like to thank Bradley T-Sdale. Oh, Bradley T-Dis-Dade. Bradley. Didn't realize you lived in God's country.

Roppanyup. No, I didn't say that right, was it? Ruppen-y-up. Rupp-n-y-up. beautiful part of the world. Bradley has brought with him the essential John Farnham on CD

three discs. And a way to play it? Yep. Oh, he has made horrible mistake. Oh, Bradley. What have you done? Jason and he's got the whole Philharmonic Orchestra. Bradley's like, mate, that's stuff

and I got fucking whispering Jack's greatest hits. I got Farnsey. So you, and it was a three disc set, didn't you say? It was the greatest hits, then sort of the B-sides and rarities, and then what was the third? The even greater hits. Oh, wow. Yeah. I remember them coming out.

It was a real big deal. Oh, yeah. This will be the last time. Maybe the last time. I don't know. You know, that's the first version of that song that I heard was the John Farnham. Yeah, I think so for me too. I don't remember hearing the original version until after.

Maybe I did. Who knows? To me. That is the original. That is, yeah. That's the definitive version. Farnsey makes it his own. Yes, he does.

It's not a cover. It's a Farnsey song. Do you know what I mean? It's sort of like everyone who came before him sort of pre-covered him. Yeah, and then once he sang it, they were like, oh, we bowed down to you. Especially the Stones. Yes. Their version was, I mean, a pretty good cover.

What a tribute. What a beautiful tribute. It was cute. Cute attempt. So thanks to Bradley. Unfortunately, the front man, whatever his name. is. I don't know.

Gary, something? Yeah, Mike Garrison or whatever. Mike Parnell? Yeah, unfortunately he does not have the voice. Apparently he's got some good moves. Well, I'm yet to see him. But the voice does not match. Mike Gagger.

Gagger. Gagger. Mike Gagger. I love his work. It's a good name. Yeah, he's pretty good. Unfortunately for him, the best thing about him. Yeah.

That stops there. Wow. Bradley, thanks for your contribution to us. and also to the island. That three-disc set will keep us warm. Do you have this next person brings some sort of a CD player? And from Farmington, Connecticut, Brianna Spencer.

Brianna Spencer brings a record player. So close. But no records. No. We've got the three-dix CD and then a... What an unsatisfying list of... I don't have got going on. They try putting the CDs on.

Oh, I just started a fire. It just scratching. Yeah. Well, yeah, they invent fire. Yeah, thank you for that. And everyone knew that. I mean, as soon as Farnsey recorded those, his producer did say, you've just created fire.

Yeah. And, yeah, history repeated itself on the island. Yeah. So thanks to Brianna from Connecticut. Thanks for supporting us. Yes, one of the two CEOs along with Colorado. All right, yeah. My expert,

My expert category on one of those shows where you get to pick one of those is US states. Even though last week we were like, oh, there's only one that starts with L. Oh, hang on, no, there's seven. Oh, no, 12. No, they all start with L, I think. Every single one of them. Lock it in.

No, there's only one L. Only one L. Is that right? Louisiana. Yeah, it was a different one, I think, that we said. Yeah, it was I. I said there's only one I, but there's three. Four eyes.

Idaho is the first. Iowa is the last. Indiana. And Illinois. And Illinois. Illinois. But from a other side of the planet, from Dungarvan,

Waterford in Ireland, I would like to thank Thomas Goodall. Thomas Goodall. Thomas. Thomas Goodall. All right. I'm going to bring back some bloody sense to this discussion. Yeah.

But dad. You're no fun, Dad. Oh, okay. No, you've given me inspiration. What would my dad bring? Be here. A trailer with a tarp. That's such a dad thing.

And seven Ocky straps. Ocky straps. They can tow anything. No car. Are you to have so much fun? fun, dad would you need to use the trailer for something? And he'd be like, he'd like, come out, boys, we'd need you as a counterweight. So you'd sit in the back of the trailer.

So, because when it's empty, it's front heavy. Oh, of course. So you counterweight at the back, and then he'd pull you along. It was a real thrill. Yeah, I grew up in the olden days. The biggest thrill you got was when dad said, want to ride in the back of the trailer? Does I pull it up the driver? He'd back up his horse and, you'd be off you.

put it in reverse it's a horse oh Thomas thank you for bringing in the trailer with oki straps with ogy straps and a tarp so yeah so that's pretty good you can tap would be good actually you put a lot of stuff in the trailer too

yeah fire would keep it dry yeah such a dead what's your favourite cold place on what's his onto I think it's like you said it

why it would keep dry we're gonna we're gonna find that clip for the non-a-s I think that's that's kind of in the Australian Ziteguise, right? But due to Tony Martin

playing it on repeat on one of his podcasts or something. What's your favorite? What's your favourite co-play song? Mine's a scientist. So legendary Australian cricketer Shane Warn, who was one of the record take...

Maybe Australia's... I said it ever test wicket taker. Yeah, it's a second in all time, right? And... Yeah, to Mourli. And he... He had a talk show for a little while. Well, he's also a great Saints play. He played in the under-9s for the Saints.

And he had a talk show briefly, and his friend Chris Martin from Coldplay was a guest. And he asked Chris Martin, he said, what's your favorite Coldplay song? Mine's a scientist. I'm sure I bring this up every time you bring that up. And I saw Coldplay four or five years ago. And Shane Warren came out and played harmonica with the band. I don't remember you ever saying that. I feel like I'd remember that.

I remember. It was a stadium and I could still feel. feel the crowd was baffled. And we're going, why are you here? Is that warning? Warnie. They come out to this smaller little stage to do like an acoustic song. The chic of tweak.

And then, yeah, they're all playing acoustic instruments and then out from underneath. Shane Warren. That's so, that is funny. If it was Huey Lewis like a famous harmonica player, then sure. That's fucking warning. Warnie. So funny. So weird.

He's also, there was a cold play concert where they got Michael J. Fox out and they play. and they played the songs that Michael J. Fox played as Marty McFly. See, that's cool. At the undersea ball, whatever it was, in the first Back to the Future. Earth Angel and Johnny Be Good. Chuck Berry's classic. Lizzo in L.A. last year and she brought out McCauley Colkin. No context.

He just danced for about a minute and then left. Oh, the guy from the pizza band. Yeah. The pizza band. You saw Lizzo in L.A. It's a wild story. That's my last concert before the world went to shit. That's good.

You can't go to live concerts in Australia anymore. She took a while to get big in Australia at least. Where was she on the ride? Is she already exploding? Yeah, already huge, but the dates had been booked way earlier in the year, so it was only about 2,000 or 3,000 venue. I imagine. But that is tiny for her, I imagine.

I remember she played a song and she goes, this song is number one in the billboard charts right now. And I was like, I've never seen an artist play the number one song at the time. Yeah, that's pretty cool. So she just absolutely exploded, yeah. I was going to see the darkness and then that got cancelled. I think Faith No More is the only one that I had a ticket to that got cancelled. Yeah, right.

I miss the National. You sing the National? You're going to have, weren't you? I don't think I've seen the National. I like... But they were... Sorry, they cancelled in April. Right.

My Harry Potter and the Curse Child tickets have just been postponed until March of next year. Yeah, right. We'll see. I hope so. We'll see. Anyway, thanks to everyone that supports the show on Patreon. The only other thing to do is to check if anyone's coming in to our famed Triptitch Club. Okay, well, I'd just double check this.

Dave, do you want to explain what it is? Maybe, yeah, explain what it is. Thank you so much. And then Jess tells us what drinking horses we're having. Yep. You've got a band booked, hopefully? Certainly do. Now, the TripDitch Club, it's where if people have been supporting the show for three consecutive years on that shout-out arsprud level or above, we'd like to thank them again by inducting them into sort of a club slash Hall of Fame slash Fun Zone, which is a little place that we've set up.

Once you're in, you can never leave, but you don't want to leave. No. Yeah, I mean, we've never really encountered anybody who's wanted to leave. I suppose if someone did, we would let them, but. But honestly, you do not want to. Honestly, that's a request we have not had yet. It's a club made out of heaven. Yeah.

Made out of heaven. Oh, that's how good it is. So, food-wise, food and drink-wise, obviously we're having some sort of banana dish, maybe just bananas. Banana Sundays. Oh, yes. And drink-wise, rum in coconuts. Oh, yes, I love any sort of rum drink, any coconut drink, please.

I hate both, but you can go to town. I love them. You know, I don't cater just to my needs. Of course. It's the peoples. And I've also done that by booking our musical act tonight, which is, of course, Coldplay, featuring Shane Warn. But Coldplay are more of a backing band,

and it's Shane Worn harmonica solo the whole time. Fuck yes. They will not be playing any Coldplay songs, sadly. Could we please get Hugh Craig the third as backup harmonica, maybe just off stage, sound a little bit. Hugh Craig the third, of course, the front man from Huey Lewis and the news.

The titular Huey Lewis. All right, he can do a backup harmonica, and you might know what, they might even do Warnie's favourite. The Scientist. Mine's a scientist. So... The Scientist is a fine song.

Yeah, it is. I don't think it's my favourite cold play, but I haven't thought that much about it, to be honest. Yet here I am. Anyway, Matt, have you found them? Yeah, there's quite a few. Great. Welcome them in.

Okay, well, firstly, I love to... to invite into the club. Wait, did you say what I'd do? Yeah, we're having banana Sundays. Banana Sundays. And rum in coconuts. And you said the music was going to be Huey Lewis in the news, and Shane Warren might open for him.

Is that right? No, the other way around. Huh? You've got to cater to the Times. Shane Warren's big right now. Huey Lewis, Shane Warren played sports. That's what he's famous for. He's got that and come with Huey Lewis.

That's actually a better connection than I ever thought we'd get. We mentioned Listen Now is starting season 2 this week, started on Monday, starting with Huey Lewis and the News of Sports. And we're going through the top 20 rock albums from the 80s as voted by listeners. Love that. So Huey Lewis and the News of Sports came in at number 20. And it was a real fun time. Okay, so entering into the club, hold up that velvety rope for...

Okay, but my arms are getting tired. From Holt in the Australian Capital Tem. It's Robert Riddell. Robert Riddell. Oh, the riddler. From Piedmont, Oklahoma, it's Oliver Roselle. Oh, the Rosella. Oh, that's nice.

From... From... The Isle of Wight in Great Britain. It is Harry Green. The greenery is here. From Rockledge in Florida, United States. It's Tony Martinez. Martinez.

From Homebush, New South Wales, Australia, it's Kalyn Rankins. Ranker. Oh, the rank. The rank. From Auckland in New Zealand. It is Mark Towell. Oh, always carry a towel. From Honiton in Devon where they do Scons ride, cream first, then the jam.

It's Michael Killen. Oh, killing it tonight. From Karak Fergus. Carrick Fergus in County Antrim. I think in Northern Ireland, Great Britain, it is Ian Irving. Oh. And tonight we'll be Irving. From Saint Olaf in S.E.

Is that Sweden? Yeah, I think so. In Sweden, it is Lucas Bankston. Oh, I'm cashing out tonight with Bankston. You can Bankston on that. You can Bankston on that. Oh, we got there, guys. Finally.

We are professionals. From Prosser in Washington, the United States, it's Patrick Burnett. I've got nothing. Burnett. Burnett. We're going to burn it tonight. No, no, no, both hands. You're the man.

You're the man. As he sits there listening and the cogs are turning. Oh, very good. That's two weeks in a row where the first few names was like, God, this is so easy. I'm so good at this. And then it's like, oh, Jesus. Oh, no.

I think it's just the pressure building, because I reckon you turned something, you turned. There was something that you turned in a, What is Martinez? What was that? Martinez, ah. You just went straight into it and then burn it. Like could be burn, you know, burning up the place, fire.

You're on fire. You know, that was the real either. And you're like, well, there's nothing here. Sorry, the well, it's dry. Oh, it's very funny. I thought you were doing a bit. But it just turns out you were out of juice. Well, no, I mean, I was doing a bit at first, but then I realized, hang on, I've got nothing.

I've got nothing in here. So thanks to everyone that does support the show. And welcome to the greatest club on earth. And we are, we're currently talking to someone about redesigning our website. So maybe we'll have to ask them about having a page for the Triptych Club. Go up to mention that. Gold, sparkly font, which hasn't been invented yet. Hopefully, this, I mean, this will be the real test of how good this guy is, eh?

Yeah. Can you do gold sparkly font? Then, yeah, you're the man for us. You're the web design. for us. You're the only one. Yeah, you'll have to design a new algorithm, but we'll see how we go. Anyway.

As per usual, if you want to get in touch, you can do so. All of our social media is at do go on pod. We do go on pod at gmail.com, and our website is do go onpod.com. Everything is there. And you can also support us on Patreon. At patreon.com forward slash dogo on pod. You guessed it. You guys never let me talk for this long.

Please help me. Well, that brings us to the end of the episode. What a fun time it has been. Whenever you're listening to this into the future, you should get tickets to our live streams. So much fun. And I think it really heightens the experience. Totally.

And we say live stream, but you can also catch up on it and have it forever. So even if you listen to this three years in the future, hopefully that link in the episode, do click on it and you can go back and watch all the old, what was a live stream. Yeah. Basically, it's just a live show.

That's right. Yeah, go back. Watch it cancel us. Yeah, see a bit of history, I guess. And, yeah, I mean, really, just catch a bit of history. Because this will be important, you'd be like, geez, they're now presidents of the galaxy. Wow, this is where it started. That's interesting.

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