Two In The Think Tank - 25 - Sherlock Holmes and Arthur Conan Doyle

Episode Date: April 12, 2016

It's time for everybody's favourite detective Sherlock Holmes, and the one person who didn't seem to like him... his adventurous creator Arthur Conan Doyle. An over achiever, who as well as creating one of the most famous literary characters of all time, was both a Sir and a Doctor, raced cars, travelled the world, practically invented skiing and believed in fairies. Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. you. Hello and welcome to DoGo on my name is Dave. Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, have you learned much? Hello and welcome to DoGo on my name is Dave. If you just heard of the brand new theme song there, you are listening to a podcast with myself. I am Dave Warnocky. I'm here with Jess Perkins, one of the lovely singers we just heard from, I'll adjust. Hello Dave, how are you? I am very good, how are you? Pretty good, pretty good. Pretty good, and you met over there, how are you? Oh, I'm sick of you. Oh my, I don't know if you get me started about how good I am. Oh, I'm at in the hat. Are you is it good? I'm wearing a hat. You're sitting on a chair. What else you want in your life?

Honestly, that's the top two things I've always wanted. I'm sitting on a chair, but I don't have a hat. So I'm half I there happiness. That's good. Me too. Great, one day we hope to be as happy as you, Matt. Can you tell that we were recording this during the comedy festival at all? A little bit delirious. You know what, it's, it's a three and a half week festival and my show's nearly done, but I got an email yesterday from the comedy festival that says, hey, everyone doing a show? Well done on the first week, it's only been a week.

Oh my God. It's like two more to go. Two more to go. like hey everyone doing a show, well done on the first week, it's only been a week, oh my god! It's like two more to go. Two more to go, let's all hang in there everybody, but the podcast never stopped, they never stopped. Party don't stop. Party, party podcasts. Party pod. Podcast pod. Nothing will stop us, aside from the odd technical issue, that's okay.

But if you haven't heard this show before, this is where we take it in terms of research, a topic and report back to the other two, and it is my turn to talk today. Which is great, because... Always my favourite. Yeah, me too. Dave's my favourite. Yeah, Dave's my favourite. Did you just admit to Matt out of the two other people on the show that he's not your favorite? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm only talking in terms of the report,

like just personally, Matt's my favorite. Yeah, sure. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm in as well. Just definitely my favorite person. I just like your reports better. Yeah. Because then it means Matt and I get to hang out and just dick around, which we love to catch up a bit. This is, well, this is good news for me, my ego, and both of you because you're each a favorite, and I'm also a favorite, so I don't feel offended. Yeah, okay. But then when it comes to me,

Yeah, who's your favorite? Who's my favorite? Because what if my favorite reporter is also my favorite friend? Oh, is it though? Is it? You are, it's all right, you're in luck because my favorite reports are also mine, so. Yay!

And I'm also, I love hanging out with me. So, I am everyone's favorite. I'm the favorite. I am the podcast favorite. Quote me. The Beyonce. The Beyonce is definitely her favorite member of this dish.

Yeah, because she's everyone's favorite. And I'm Michelle. Michelle knows that Beyonce is Beyonce's favorite but is okay with it. And I'm the other one. Wait, no, I'm not Michelle. I'm Kelly. You're Michelle. Yeah, you're the other one, Matt. That Michelle Williams is the. And I'm the other one. Wait, no, I'm not Michelle, I'm Kelly, you're Michelle. Yeah, you're the other one, Matt. That Michelle Williams.

Oh, the other one's got a name, though, that's cool. So people know the other one's name. Michelle Williams. Michelle, yeah, I know that name. Probably because you told me in a previous podcast. I think it's the third time we've brought up this. And we haven't done a topic on them. Like, we haven't done a report on them.

Fine, next week I'll do Destiny's Childs. But I'm not doing Destiny's Children this week. I'm doing a, I've got a report here and we often start with a question. And to get us in, we'll go and beg you or someone else to see if we can get it and then we'll go a little bit tighter and we'll close in on the topic.

But who would you say is the most famous literary character of all time? Literary character. So like it's a, this is obviously going to pin you in this one. Jesus Christ. Because Bible's the biggest selling book of all time. Yeah.

That's true. All right, so it's not a big part of it. I'll say that it's no one biblical. Okay. The very character. Harry Potter. No. Jesus Bond.

Older. Older than James Bond. Uh. Spot the dog. Spot the dog. Spot the dog. Who is younger than James Bond? Younger. I mean age.

Oh, I mean age. No, no, in terms of creation. What spot the dog was written after the James Bond series? I believe so. Eric Hill was the spot the dog creator. I'd just assume they were from the like the 1600s. Now I assume when you say most famous spot the dogs 500 years old. I thought so yeah I thought it was like canabry tails sort of time time frame all right what's in what's in another when you say literally character for some

I'm assuming like Sherlock Holmes it is Sherlock Holmes oh my goodness and I just looked up spot the dog first published in 1980 there you go um so I'm gonna say I'm assuming a series. So you're correct there. Are you, wow, you keep... Have you thought about this one? Yes! Have you really? I feel like we're just the same person.

You are the same person. That's so good. I love Sherlock Holmes. You love Sherlock Holmes? I'm a big fan. So, all right, I was just gonna ask if you ever read or seen... I've never read. I've seen one of the ones with The guy plays Iron Man Charlie Shin Jr. Robert Downey Jr.

Holly Shin Jr. Charlie Shin Jr. Wow Matt's been broken by his own slipper Matt your show hasn't even started the Conti Festival I don't know what your excuses are there. Charlie, Jean, Jr. I mean, they're sort of similar. They're not.

No, they're both. Well, they've both been bad, but Charlie Jean hasn't bounced back the way that Robert Downey has. That's true. It's a good point. Definitely not. So, you've seen the movie, perhaps? That movie? I've seen that movie, yeah. Here in my sidekick, which I'm not going to ever see. Jude Law.

Jude Law. It's a very good Watson. I quite like Jude Law as Watson. But I've also watched Sherlock with Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Framon. Which is fantastic. I've heard that it's very good. Ah, it's brilliant. Brilliant series.

And there's a Lucy Lou one as well? Yeah. Actually, I heard it. What's that elementary? Yeah. It's not very good. Oh it's brilliant brilliant series and there's a Lucy Lou one as well. Yeah Elementary. Was it elementary? Yeah. It's not as good. I don't mind it but it's not as good. I haven't seen the Lucy Lou one. But um do you know much about so have you read any of the the short stories? Yeah I did as a kid which is strange. Did you ever have um what was it called? Oh shit it was like this program it was outside of school. After school care. No it wasn't it was like a it was a special day thing like you could get your teachers would select you to go off to this What's it called gateways? Thank you gateways. Oh my god. We are the same person Did you get a gateways? I went to gateways, but because I was very good at math

I was gonna say you would have been the maths one I was always the English one because I'm shit at math but very good at English. I was going to say you would have been the maths one. I was always the English one because I'm shit at maths but very good at English. I was as a kid. I don't want to blame you on the maths but it gateways is for gifted children. Yeah. So it's that way I've never heard of it? Yeah. That is definitely why. That is why. So yeah I did one that was a show of times kind of themed one when I was about grade five. Oh what happened in the gateways there? I just remember we looked at one of the show of home stories a hand of the basketball bills in particular. So I remember a bit about that one and that was also adapted to the Sherlock series. Oh my god, I'm so excited. Okay. Chris, do you know much about the creator of Sherlock Holmes?

No, not a lot. Not a lot. Because I will say that Sherlock Holmes features heavily in this segment. I'm more focusing on, do you know the name of the writer? I'm gonna know it as soon as he says it. Arthur Conan Doyle. Thank you, shit. Just so embarrassing though. Who let a very interesting life

and often overshadowed by his biggest creation. So I'm gonna focus on the life of Conan Doyle and we're gonna come back to Sherlock Holmes. On this report that I'm calling Arthur Conan Doyle and Sherlock Holmes. You know what? Pretty good. That's a pretty good title.

That's pretty good title. I'm very excited about this. You know what's a great title and that is Arthur Conan Doyle and Sherlock Holmes. You know what? Pretty good. That's a pretty good title. That's pretty good title. I'm very excited about this. You know what's a great title, and that is Arthur Conan Doyle's full name, which is Arthur Ignatius Conan Doyle. Oh, shit. Yeah, you two are just shitty middle name James. I know.

Fuck off. Ignatius all the way. That is way better. Ignatius. Well, Conan is also just his middle name. He just added that professionally when he became an adult. So his name is just Arthur Doyle. He's actually Arthur Doyle. So throughout school he was Arthur Doyle and then he added the Conan.

Which I like. I like the Conan Doyle. Yeah, it's, oh it's much, it's catcher isn't it? I see D. Conan Doyle, I enjoy that. Do you guys see in this movie called um Shanghai Nights? It's with Owen Wilson. And Jackie Chan? Jackie Chan. Have you seen that?

Yeah, I have. I watched it on YouTube. That's how good equality this meant. Because it's actually got the origin story of... What's this thing we're talking about? Sherlock Holmes. It's got it in there. What's this thing we're talking about? There's this guy, character called Arty Doyle,

in it. Oh, really? They did one of those. There's this guy, character called Arty Doyle, isn't it? Oh, really? They did one of those. And he's like a detective. He's like from Scotland Yard. And he has this interesting way of solving crimes, you know? But like, he's able to figure it out of different clues and stuff really think his way through it.

And he's figured out this new way of solving crimes. And then during the movie, Owen Wilson uses a fake name because he's pretending he's royalty or something. And he sees some words on a, like a fire extinguisher or something that says Sherlock Holmes. So he uses that as his pretend name. And then at the end of the movie, Artie decides to quit the police force.

He says, I think I'm gonna start writing some books. I hope you don't mind if I use your name, Sherlock Holmes. Nice. At the end of the movie. Did he turn to the camera? Basically, winks at the camera. And then there's... How recently did you watch this film

because your recall is fantastic? It was amazing. I watched it like three weeks ago. Well, they're trying to open it up for a third movie. Is that what they were doing? I don't. Ah, don't yeah that's right the next one is just about it's well the next one was Sherlock Holmes with um Charlie's in the course the one that we all remember but they also like that wasn't enough for them they also had this little kid who was sort of like he was a bit of a scam and he sort of stole from El Wilson

early in the movie and then later on they were going to Hollywood and they said to him, you could come along but it's no place for a boy like you Charlie Chaplin and then he like he stood away on their horse and car and in the back and then he he picked out so the audience could see and he got a little bit of suit on his upper lip to look like a Charlie Chaplin mustache. And that man went on to be Adolf Hitler. Yeah, they didn't say that exactly but you know I think. Yeah, that's yeah, it's in place. The subtext of such a deep film. So is that the count? I mean I hope I don't want to steal your thunder, is that going to be a lot of what you're going to tell me? Absolutely not. Arthur Conan Doyle was in no way your police officer.

Really? No. Oh, that's weird. So they took a little bit of poetic... Oh, it's a poetic... Co-aided life. Like, Oodie. Well, you could call it creative, you could call it poetic.

And I call it a... Filly shitty movie. There you go. Alright, so, we've got Arthur Ignatius Conan Doyle. Our name was born on May 22nd, 1859, in Edinburgh, Scotland. Scotland. But he's a Scottish.

There you go, Scotland Yard. Is that where he was born? Not in the Yard, I don't know. Well, he could have been bought, there's no details of his birth. That hasn't specifically ruled out. So let's just assume that that's anything I don't say assume that's the truth.

The Doyle's, his family were a prosperous Irish Catholic family. Let's just assume, but that's anything I don't say, assume that's the truth. The Doyles, his family, were a prosperous Irish Catholic family. Charles, ultimate Doyle, Arthur's father, was according to Conan Doyle's official website, ArthurColonDoyle.com, was, quote, a chronic alcoholic was a moderately successful artist, who, apart from fathering a brilliant son, never accomplished anything of a note. Oh, that's a bit brutal. Feel the 150 year old burnchers. What a smackdown.

Absolutely a smackdown. That's kind of like everyone. Right, like no one really achieves anything of notes. No, but I did read somewhere else on the web that he used to steal money from his kids to pocket money to drink and then if he couldn't afford alcohol he would drink varnish and another quote stumble around on the floor so he doesn't sound like a great guy. Where are you stumble around? I feel like though if you're going to hear the floor was mentioned. If you're going to be a good, a very famous writer you should have an alcoholic father.

Remember when we talked about Mary Poppins and her dad was a was a chronic alcoholic as well. I love Poppins. I know but I forgot a name. P.L. Trepp. Oh, Pant Lady. Pant Lady Trepp. We didn't write that joke at the time. That's very funny. At the age of 22 we got Charles the alcoholic guy. He had married Mary Foley who who was only 17, and that's Arthur's mother. She was a gifted storyteller and often read to him growing up. He thought that was a big influence on him becoming a writer later on. However, it wasn't an easy childhood, as for them there was little money in their family, and even less harmony on account of his father's excessive and erratic behavior, probably induced by the varnish.

Excessive behavior. I'm behaving excessively. Could you behave a little less please? A little too much behavior over there, thank you. It's the seven year old telling their dad to come down. Oh, dad. But after Arthur reached his ninth birthday, the wealthy members of his family, sort of his uncles, stepped in and offered to pay for his studies.

Arthur didn't want to leave his family, he was reportedly in tears all the way to England, or he spent seven years in a Jesuit boarding school. So there you go. But he loads the bigotry surrounding his studies and rebelled at corporal punishments, which at the time were particularly brutal, that were dished out to kids that were acting up, and he was not into it at all. During those... Weird, that's so weird. So weird. It's an odd ball. What a character.

And it gets worse with this sentence. During those grueling years, Arthur only seemed to have two moments of happiness. One was when he wrote letters to his mother, the regular habit that lasted for the rest of her life. Mummy's boy. He wrote over 1,500 letters to his mother so regular habit that lasted for the rest of her life. Mommy's boy. He wrote over 1500 letters to his mother. Jesus. Just quite a lot. Imagine if he lived in this day and age where you can text and call. He'd be one of those guys constantly on the phone to his mommy. Excuse me. I'm going to take this call. Hello, mom. Yes, I'm doing well. He also practiced sports. He was very good at sports mainly cricket

Which he was also very talented He discovered that he was also a gifted storyteller and would tell our stories to entertain younger students He'd have big crowds gather around him and he would sort of make stories up on the spot What's that like telling stories to crowds of people? Well, Matt, Matt and I wouldn't know but you were so they go crowds telling stories to crowds of people. Well, Matt and I wouldn't know, but you were, so there you go. To crowds. Yeah, everybody, what did you have? 300 last night or just no big deal.

Oh, just. Right. He graduated in 1876 at the age of 17, and decided to add a Conan to his full name, so that's when he started being Arthur Conan Doyle. But his first task as an adult was to sign his alcoholic father's commitment papers to the asylum because he'd drunk himself into such disarray and illness that he had to spend the rest of his life in an asylum.

First thing I did as an adult is registered a vote and get my driver's license. Oh, there you go. I'm yet to sign over my father to an asylum, but you know, there's hope. What's his varnish drinking habit like? Not as bad as it is. Not as bad. He's not as bad as you would assume. Yeah. But that's what you was like.

Could you have a very good writer? You are. But you said before that you thought he might have been a detective. Jess, you have any idea what career he actually followed before you as well? An actor. Well, that's the only other thing. I mean, he was an actor in the movie. No. No, I don't know. Well, Arthur designed the only other. I mean, he was an actor in the movie.

No, I don't know. Well, Arthur does find to pursue him. Jim's mowing. Yeah, let's actually let's have a guess. I can we have a clue and then some guess will guess. I like guessing games. Well, I don't want to. I've tried to give a clue. Okay. That's not too give a give a sort of spy, but I'm thinking. No, it's factory worker. The respected job? A banker. No that's the...

That's PL. Law? No, not lawyer. Oh he said respected. Got him. Cops that. Certainly wasn't an accountant then. Fuck him.

Oh man, I can maybe broad that up in front of yourself. Um... Respected. A teacher. No. Doctor. Doctor, you were pursuing, a teacher. No. Doctor. Doctor, he was pursuing a medical career. Woo!

That's right. This decision was influenced by Dr. Brian Charles Waller, a young lodger his mother had taken in to make ends meet. That kind of makes sense because a lot of Sherlock Holmes' like the clues that he picks up on are kind of scientific and... And it's an other guy, a doctor? the clues that he picks up on are kind of scientific and chemistry. And is the other guy a doctor? Yeah, what's the doctor?

Is he a medical doctor? Yes. Or is he got a doctorate in podcasts? He is a medical doctor. He's a real doctor unlike I was going to be. So Dr. Waller had the guy that lived with his mother for a bit had trained at the University of Edinburgh and this is where Arthur was sent to carry out his medical studies. So, he's moved back to Scotland, no studying. The young medical student met a number of future world famous Scottish authors

who were also at the uni at the time and he was friends with J.M. Barry, author of Peter Pan and Robert Louis Stevenson, Treasure Island and Dr. Jacqueline Mr. Hyde. So, they're all probably the three most famous Scottish authors of the day all hanging out at the same uni. As soon as he said Robert Louis Stevenson, I'm going to regret saying this. Like I sung it in my head and then I was like, what song is that from? And then I sang the rest of it. It's from a tripod song. Oh, that's why I was able to regret it. Robert Louis Stevenson and Edgar Allen Poe. Yeah. Well Edgar Allen Poe was a big influence on Sir Arthur Cone. There we go. He's early writing. A couple of years into his studies at the age of 19,

Arthur decided to try his pen at writing a short story. So it was been good telling these stories, but he'd never written anything down before. The result, entitled, the mystery of Susella Valley was actually heavily compared to Edgar Allan Poe at the time. It was accepted into an Edinburgh magazine called Chambas Journal. And he published one other story

that year. So it was sort of a slow start but he's got a, he's first sort of a fisher riding job. But the first crack was, yeah, he's first go at riding, was published and well received, that's good. It's real good. And he was also a big adventurer and when he was 20 years old, in his third year of medical studies, he had a chance for adventure that knocked on his door. He was offered the post of a ship's surgeon on the hope which was a wailing boat about to leave for the Arctic Circle. I didn't put together wailing like the animal. I put it together like Everyone's really sick. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I was thinking like, you know, in top aware or something, hunting for the things that keep, the keeps freshness in, you know, that like seals.

I was thinking of that funny. I'm gonna regret saying that. Yes, you are, because the next sentence was, the young medical student was appalled by the brutality of the exercise, hunting for these plastic seals. Was that your chest尖? It was not a good one.

I'm pretty good. I like I generally speaking in my great mimic, but I was a little off that time. I really regret saying this. It's really fun to talk like that. It's fun being me, baby. I'll ask you not to because otherwise the listener will have trouble differentiating between the two of you. I was watching the words come of the amouth and I was thinking, what is this trickery?

It's really just Perkins voice. Alright, fair enough, I'll keep that down. But apart from the brutality of the seal hunting, he really enjoyed the camaraderie on board the ship and the whale hunt and everything, all life it's he sort of fascinated him and he he was later quoted he said I went on board the whaleer a big struggling youth but I came off a powerful well-grown man okay so if I like it the Arctic had another quote awakened the soul of a born wanderer so wanky Waking the soul of a born wanderer. That's him.

Hmm. But adventure and travel is a big part of his life throughout the rest of his days. But he returned to his studies in 1880 at the age of 21. He obtained his Bachelor of Medicine and Master of Surgery degree, which is four years and he become a surgeon. And I'll say, it's pretty good. It's not like that anymore.

I was like 15 years. Yeah. And on the occasion of getting his Bachelor of Medicine, he drew a humorous sketch of himself receiving his diploma with the caption, licensed to kill. Oh, Bond. Bond, like 70 years before Bond.

Pre-bond. Pre-bonding. Pre-bondage. Mmm. That's when you get the moisture hours around. Is that pre-bond. Pre-bonding. Pre-bondage. That's when you get the moisture out. Is that pre-bondage? Make sure your skin is all supple before you get the bondage happening. Hey guys, some for some bondage. Well, let's get the pre-bondage happening. Close me the... Let's get the moisture

out. The salvalene. Is that a thing? Solvoline. That doesn't sound like a real thing. So, solvoline sounds like something that Doyle's dad would drink. Yeah. It sounds petrol-battles. Yeah, that's... Solvoline. Solvoline.

Solvoline, you know what I mean? No, that's velvoline. That's something you know. It's something you have solvoline. Solvoline. Mixed with, uh, vasoline. Vasoline. Yeah, yeah.

That's what you use before. I bondage. Vass. I don't know what you did go pass me the vaso Pass me the vaso and the sorbo That's what I say that's get some bondo on someone said to me pass me the sorbo I'd imagine that talking about sorbae sorbae. No, that's all that's totally different Pass me the sorbo bay That's what I say for bond bondage

Which one a bondage. Which one's bondage? Exactly. So I'm gonna get tied up. Tie it up. Tie it up. What was the option? What was the other thing going through your mind?

I thought it was maybe the thing where you get whipped. What's that one? Was that SNM? SNM. Symphony Metallica. No. Correct. Alright, now continuing his adventuring, Arthur Cone of Dolly's first employment once

graduating with uni was a medical officer on a steamboat called the Mayumbah. Boop boop. That's a steamboat impression. That was really good. Thank you. It's a bad old vessel navigating between Liverpool and the west coast of Africa, so he's adventuring again, but he did not like it Africa as as the Arctic, and when he returned, he decided that's enough of me. He started his own practice in Port Smith. He rented a house, but he was

only able to afford to furnish the two rooms his patients would see. So they'd come in and it would look really nice, but then behind that it was a completely empty house. But he was compassionate and hardworking in his early days, so that by the end of his third year, his practice started to gain him a comfortable income. Does making good money is a doctor, and during the next year's, the young man divided his time between trying to be a good doctor and struggling to become a recognized author. So he had a taste of being published, and he really wants to pursue that as well. In August of 1885, he married a young woman called Louisa Hawkins. Louisa or Tui as she was nicknamed?

Tui. Tui. Tui. Don't hide it. Don't hide it. You know I love nicknames. Yeah. What do you reckon I come from, Jess?

Louisa, I guess it's probably not from her name. It's probably like some drunken party story. She drinks to ease red Good on it. You're reckon that's what it is. Is that what you're going? Classic English 18. I thought a mother-man that she like had two of everything old to eat So ways good travels in peace. Maybe she's only a two out of ten. Oh Two out of five. Oh, that's better. That's twice as good. Finally, slightly better. That's a four out of 10. Yeah.

What if she's a two out of two? Oh, that's right now. You're getting a really good territory. Which is a 10 out of 10. You are good at maths. No one of you got in the pathways. 100 out of 100 gateways. Gateways, sorry.

The gateway to success. The pathways is like a Christian thing, I think. Yeah. Wouldn't be surprised if that was secretly a Christian thing that we were doing. Yeah, probably. Did you go to Catholic school? No, yeah, I did. I was thinking maybe it was some sort of Catholic thing. They sneak you in that way. Anyway, he married with the fun of maths. Yeah, you're in the back door. To tempt you with the devil's numbers. Oh, imagine maths. It served me well. Toei was the sister of one of his

patients that he had failed to save. Oh Jesus. So he married her. Oh fuck right. Yeah it's bad. And that's taken your guilt to another level. And he did feel guilty that he was not able to save her brother. Brutal. Yeah, surprisingly, instead of going on a honey moon with his young wife, he went on a tour of Ireland with the Stoneyhurst Wanderers, the school's old boys cricket teams, I think, huh? Sure.

So, hey, look, I'll marry you and look after you, but I'm not going on, honey, man, I'm going on a boys trip. Yeah. To Ireland, four years later, Arthur and two, he had their first child, Mary, in an 1892, their second child, Arthur. Wasn't his mother's name Mary? I think you're thinking of Jesus. Yeah.

So he was Mary, named after. Oh, I always think you better. Nameed after his mother, that's right. That's nice. And then they had another child called Arthur, who was nicknamed Kingsley. Oh. Oh, what?

Because it was like Arthur, Jr. Yes, they gave him a different name. Kingsley, that's a bit cute. Better name for a dog than a child, but... Why not just name him Kingsley? Yeah, that's a good point, Dave. Look, I'm not the man that met the legend that is Arthur Conan Doyle. Good point, that is very good point. I hadn't considered that. I'm sorry Dave. Thank you. Thank you so much. In March 1886 at the age of 27, Conan Doyle started writing the novel novel which catapulted him to fame at first It was named a tangled Skine SKEN and the two main characters were going to be called Sheridan Hope

Yeah, Sherlock Holmes and a Ormond Sacka horrible for Dr. John Watson That does sound like a random letter. Yeah, that's a... Two, think of a word. Sacka! Perfect, it's in. I love you. It took a couple of years to tell me what's in it.

You're so good to me. God, I love you. Sorry, I killed your brother. I'm sorry. I went on that cricket team. Well, I said too much. Sorry, I didn't save you brother. That's a sh**. Anyway, cup of tea or I'll get it. went on that cricket team. Well, I said too much. Sorry, I didn't save you, brother. Fuck. Shit.

Anyway, cup of tea, or I'll get it. You said, you said, you look comfy. Anyway, love you. Shit. It took two years, two years later, this novel was published in Beaton's Christmas Annual, which is a sort of a magazine, something that's where a bunch of stuff was published in those days in serialized form.

Under the title, a study in Scarlet, which introduces to the immortal, now named Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson. So that was the first time they, he went with those names the first time. He's in a mortal, is he? Like a vampire? I wouldn't be surprised

if there is fan fiction where he is a vampire. Did you know that? Who? Sherlock Holmes. Is immortal? They've just said the immortal Sherlock Holmes. I was still talking about a hundred and thirty years later. Doyle was paid twenty-five pounds or about five thousand US dollars in 2015 money for all the rights to the story but I couldn't do it wasn't he wasn't

even that impressed with his own work he must prefer his next novel, Micah Clark which have you heard of that? No. Which though well received is now almost forgotten. There you go. This marked the start of a serious dichotomy in the author's life. There were Sherlock Holmes, who very quickly

became world famous in stories that's author considered at best commercial. And there were a number of serious historical novels, poems, and plays, and even our sort of nonfiction stuff, for which he expected to be recognized as a serious author, but no one ever cared about as much as Sherlock Holmes. So Holmes, the first home story, will say, was well received, but it didn't make him that famous straight off the bat. That was nearly it for the character. He wasn't going to write another story, but in August of 1889, a guy called Joseph Marshall Stoddett, who's a managing editor of a successful

magazine in Philadelphia. He came to London to organize a British edition of his magazine. He wanted some local writers to write for the magazine. He invited our Conan Doyle for dinner in London at the elegant Langham hotel which was later mentioned a lot of Sherlock Holmes novels. The other writer he invited to the dinner party was the already famous Oscar Wilde. Ooh, I've heard of him. A little Oscar Wilde. Mm-hmm.

Physically, the man could not have been more opposite. Oscar Wilde appeared to be a quote, lenders dandy. So he was a big guy, whereas Conan Doyle, another quote, this is from his website, which I'd be pissed at this said this 130 130 years after I, this happened to me. In spite of his best suit, looked somewhat like a walrus in Sunday clothes. Sorry, Jesus, you just, you didn't have to mention it, it looks.

He's got it like it, wait, if you see Fatus, I mean, he's got a big walrus, walrus style mustache. Oh, that's right, then. So despite being very opposite men, though, Arthur and Oscar World got on very famously. And as a result of this dinner, stood up the magazine guy commissioned Doyle to write another Sherlock Holmes story,

and he got wild to write his only novel, The Picture of Dorian Gray, which is very famous work. So this dinner was very significant to 19th century literature. The next book that Holmes was featured in was called The Sign of Four and elevated the popularity of the character. So now it's becoming world famous. In spite of his literary success,

his medical practice, which was flourishing and doing quite well, and a harmonious family life with these kids, Doyle was very restless. So he decided, because he always one's a bit of adventure, he decided to move to Vienna where he wanted to become an ophthalmologist. Oh yeah, we've all been there. I mean, that classic good life crisis.

Yeah, I had it early. I had it in my teens. I'm like, I went ophthalmology mad. I was like, I just ophthalmologized everything. My whole bedroom was basically an ophthalmologist clinic. Do you know what an ophthalmologist does, Ma? No idea. He doesn't know that you know. an ophthalmologist does, Matt? No idea. He doesn't know that you know.

It's an I-man. He became an I-man. I-man, yeah. He's an I-man. Yeah, right. But you didn't like living there, as you found that after your rebellious teenage years, after you tore down those posters of eye diseases, or around the world,

yet replacing with tism. Tism, yeah, tism, back up. Of course, you were quite. I mean in the end Maybe that's why I like Tism so much because all you can see is there eyes They wear they wear masks and you're an eye man and I'm an eye man. I've always been an eye man. Well color my eyes Ball I'm gonna say blue green green Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Beautiful bad that lose you got good eyes to you. You got beautiful. I was my best thing physically

You know outside if you were gonna count other than my metaphysical stuff they might be like you know second or third What's number one my brain a metaphysical thing and I'll tell you Toes that do strange things. Yes, I do Had a sneaking How does it do strange things? Yes, I do. I had a snake in the kitchen. Me, me, me. Are you working way too hard for way too little? There's never been a better time to consider a career in IT. You could enjoy a recession-resistant career in a rewarding field with plenty of growth opportunities and often flexible work environments.

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very unpopular, but that gave him a lot of time to write because he could write all day along, no one. I've been setting up a business and no one ever comes in. Yeah, no one bothers you. That's great That sounds so much work done without any work to do be great bloody. Yeah, the dream What a like that seems crazy But no one I don't know he's got a famous author at this time I will say no one ever decides the Bother maybe it's too intimidating. Yeah.

That does sound very weird. I mean, maybe people like, I like I'm a fan of your little books, mate. But I'm not gonna trust you with my eyes. I need them to see. I hereby again writing short stories about Holmes in this now abundant extra time that he has. And they were published in the Strand magazine,

which is very, very, very popular these short stories this collaboration lasted for decades and was instrumental in making the author the magazine and the artist world famous. After nearly dying from the flu in 1891, Doyle decided that he'd been foolish to try and balance a medical and writing career and gave up medicine for good. Wow. Even though he'd already been a writer because no one came to his doctor's. So yeah when he it's weird that and gave up medicine for good. Wow. So I'm gonna be a rider now, even though he'd already been a rider because no one came to his doctor's place. So yeah, when he, it's weird that he gave up medicine after he totally failed at it.

No, yeah, it's not for me. No, I think the people decided that, made already. Yeah, when no one knocked on your door. I know, it's like someone go and, you don't fire me. Yeah, I quit. Yeah, I think we fired you buddy. Jogger. Jogger. Usually it would be the other way around there, wouldn't it?

Do you try a hand of being an author and then you're like, well, I've got to get a day job, but I quit the day job to do the very creative. That is, that would very rarely happen. You get rejected for something you've trained at university for four years. It's telling his parents. And like a well sought after career. I just want to be a doctor. And no one wants me to have to be a world famous, really rich or?

His parents like, look, we support you in your little doctor-followed idea, but we wanted to have a sensible backup plan, being a world famous. Come on, just create some sort of literary detective. Yeah. What's all I asked? Just have a backup. Come on, have a backup. That for yeah what do I have to have a back come on have a backup that for safety we just want to say to you hey you probably won't need it you'll probably be really successful but you know only one in one thousand doctors become wealthy from their profession look at the stats writers that's a surefire thing everyone needs a writer yeah everyone

see what I get what you were doing there because it's... It's the opposite of that. We actually, the doctors have well sought after because everybody at some point in their life needs a doctor. Whereas writers... I didn't get what we were doing. There's lots of those and not all of them are good. Well that's it. Yeah, I didn't really get it.

I knew it felt funny, but I wasn't sure why, so I appreciate you. Yeah, yeah, that's quite funny. Filling me in. Thank you. Thanks, yes, I appreciate it. You're good comedy. All right, let's talk about Sherlock Holmes. He's created him. He's had him in two novels and started doing short stories. Sherlock Holmes is known as a consulting detective that he's titled in these stories. And he was based upon Doyle's medical lecturer. Sort of, it was good that he went to University otherwise he wouldn't have thought of it. A guy called Dr. Joseph Bell. Bell had amazing observational skills and as well as being a great doctor he prided himself on being able to not only diagnose a man or woman's illness just by looking at them

but he'd also tell their nationality and the job they did just from looking at them. Wow. Which admittedly in some cases is much easier than others. If you're coming in your dress, it's the milkman. You're like, probably milkman. I got a sneaking suspicion that you are a police officer. Yeah. Try to trick me. I'm Joseph Bell.

Or if you come in dresses and eye doctor, you're like famous author. Famous, exactly. No one's seen you in years. But then Bell would later write to Doyle saying, you yourself us your loquahomes and you well know it. That's kind of beautiful. Put that back on him saying, this is as much of you in there as there is as me. That's, I think that's lovely.

Doyle would say that the detective stories at the time in the 1880s relied on chance to solve crimes, and this really pissed him off, because often they'd come across a clue or take a chance. And he wanted reasoning, the observation that Dr. Joseph Bell used on his patients to be applied to solving crimes and mysteries. And obviously that's a staple 130 years later,

but at the time, that wasn't being done. The book's place, Sherlock Holmes' birth in the year 1854, which makes him five years older than Doyle himself, and Holmes first developed his methods of deduction as an undergraduate. His earliest cases, he pursued as an amateur, came from fellow university students. Oh. For three, yeah, got his skills. A meeting with a classmates father led him to a adopt detection as a profession, and he spent six years after university as a consultant before financial difficulties led him to accept little odd man called Dr. John H. Watson as a fellow

lodger in his famous address. Hey, miss. I was gonna ask if you knew, is that right? I think it's actually Horatio. It's Hamish. Horatio is a fantastic name. But it's Hamish. Hamar. And do you know? I'm a town. Do you know their famous address where they share the flat? 221 B Baker Street. 1 is correct.

1 is 33 Porta Road East Bentley. Is that your childhood home? No. It's a fictional address. It's actually in Bentley. No, it's not in Bentley. It's 221 B Baker Street London. That's right.

B Baker Street. Like Humphrey B Baker. No. 221 right. B Baker Street like Humphrey B. B. B Baker Two twenty one B B Baker Street. What's the B stand for B like flat B Barry Baker? Yes Barry Baker Street London That's right. Okay. Okay. This is when the the first public story a study in Scarlett begin So I don't know if you've seen the first episode of Sherlock the BBC TV series, which I think you have. Yeah, it also starts with them moving in together as the novel does. Bloody great.

Actually, the writers of the BBC series Sherlock, one of whom plays Minecraft. The writers of that series are very big Sherlock Holmes fans, obviously, because they wrote a series about it, but I mean like they wanted to really do it justice, so the series is actually very close to the books, or it's just really good adaptation, it's just a great series. You're a big fan of that little, little, little, no series that you're really championing there. It's really good. In the books, Holmes works as a detective for 23 years with

Physician John Watson assisting him for 17 of those years and all but four of Doyle's 60-odd stories and narrated and told from the perspective of Dr. John Watson. So Watson's pretty much Holmes' biographer in the books. And in the series, John Watson has a blog about their... Oh, so it's in the modern time. Yeah, it's in the modern time. And he has a blog about it, so it's sort of from his perspective as well. It's very clever. But you said not all of them. Who did the other ones? Who narrated the others? There's a couple told from Holmes's perspective. Just to mix things up a little bit. What? Because it's totally different. The writing style and stuff in those ones.

Well, yeah, the perspective's completely different. He's more crazy, right? He's a drunk. What's the first person more than a theresome? He's not a drunk. Well, I will. Let's get into this. What's it describes Holmes as a bohemian in his habits

and lifestyle? Of course, Holmes is famous for smoking a pipe. But he occasionally uses addictive drugs, especially in the absence of stimulating cases, because he always wants to keep his mind going. He uses cocaine and morphine. He injects them both, which were both legal and London at the time.

I haven't seen all of the BBC show. Does he use any syringes? No, I don't think he does in the BBC one. In the American one, elementary, he is recovering addict. And that's how Watson Joan Watson, Lucy Lou, comes into his life because she's like sponsor. So she's like there to make sure that he doesn't go back to the drugs, but then sort of helps him in his crime solving.

I already dislike that plot. That sounds great. They've just tried to... to the drugs but then sort of helps him in his crime solving. I already dislike that plot. That sounds great. They've just tried to... But in the BBC, when I don't think there's... Does it sound like the care, everything? Yeah. But in the BBC, when I think they allude to the fact that he may have been susceptible

to that sort of thing in the past, but no, I don't think he uses it at all. Well, he does a little bit in the books. And so he's obviously struggling financially. That's why I get to watch it in the first place. But by the end of his career, he's worked for a lot of powerful people including the monarchs of Europe. And so he's quite wealthy when you retire, because it's been paid a lot of money. Holmes has many skills and uses amazing disguises

to conceal his identities, a great actor as well. And what's in first describe Holmes' skill in the first novel of study in Scarlett? And he actually has a list of all these things. He has his knowledge of literature is Neil, knowledge of philosophy, Neil, knowledge of astronomy, Neil, knowledge of politics, feeble, knowledge of botany, variable, but good when it comes to OPM. Knowledge of geology, practical but limited, tells that it glances different soils from each other.

Getting better. Knowledge of chemistry, profound. There we go. This is very good chemistry. Knowledge of anatomy, accurate but unsystematic, I guess that's how we can adopt it. Ah, hey, dramatic. Are you the same words that rhyme with words?

I feel like I'm feeling a bit weird. Knowledge of sensational literature amends. He appears to know every detail of every horror petuated in the century. Yes, that's all right. Into some pretty graphic stuff. Plays the violin well. It does, yep. Is an expert boxer and swordsman. Mm-hmm. Very much depicted in the book, I don't know, you know.

Very good fighter. Also, if that's for the walking stick a few times in the books, he has a good practical knowledge of British law. There you go, number 11. Just to make sure that he is... I mean, why did he go through those things at the start that he had no knowledge of? I mean... So give you an idea for this character. Like Like he is not interested in anything that isn't relevant to...

Right. Yes, so he's a very... He's a very... No, because he's one of those people. It's one of those people that's like a genius when it comes to some... AFL football. NIL. Like what did he mention?

Like you mentioned botany. What did he mention? You know, like... This is the 1800s man. Biology. Oh, biology wasn't around in the 1800s. Well, great. Don't get sassy with me. I'll sassy for one assass.

Matt. I'm from Sassafras. I'm from Sassafras. I want to come to Matt number one, Sass immense. I was wondering, does he have like, because he's sort of like a weird old school superhero right, sort of. Yeah, I guess so, yeah. Does he have like an arch he's sort of like a weird old school superhero, right? Sort of. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah.

Does he have like an arch nemesis? Oh, definitely. And I'm about to talk about it. It's his arch nemesis, like it's something like Rick Moratus, right? His name is Professor Moria. Moria. Yes. I knew it.

So back in the real world, uh, Arthur Conan Doyle is, uh, his board of Sherlock Holmes. And, um, a few times he toys with the idea of killing off the character but his mother sends letters saying don't do that all of England will crack it hard and he says all right I can't mommy Yeah, mommy In 1893 he's very very impulsive Arthur Conan Doyle he decides to kill off Sherlock Holmes just two years after becoming a professional writer. So not very long, he's got, and now it's a world famous character. In the short story of the final problem published in December 1893,

Sherlock Holmes and his nemesis, Professor Moriarty, plunged to their deaths at the Reichenbach Falls in Switzerland, which is a real place that Doyle had visited. And as a result, there was a big outcry, 20,000 readers canceled their subscriptions to the Strand Magazine. Oh, my God. Oh, shit.

So big financial repercussions for the magazine, especially. That is amazing. But Doyle was happy, now freed from his medical career, and from fictional character that oppressed him and overshadowed what he considered to be his final work, he immense himself in even more intensive activity. So we started writing heaps and heaps and heaps, and this frenzied life may have explained why the former physician didn't notice

the serious deterioration of his wife's health. Oh, that's very good. By the time he finally became aware of how sick she was, our two-week was diagnosed with tuberculosis. No, two-week. She was only given a few months to live, but Doyle sprang into action, and due to his care, she was able to live for many more years.

We moved around to different climates, which sounds really good. But writing incessantly, looking after Louise, a no longer wife, but now a patient, and then losing his father who finally died in the sanatorium, deeply troubled Colonel Doyle. It may have been his resulting depression which caused him to become more and more fascinated by, quote, life beyond the veil. He had long been attracted to spiritualism, but when he joined the

Society of Physical Research, it was considered to be a public declaration of his interests and his belief in the occult. More on that later. Oh, what on that later? Bit of sizzle. That is good sizzle. So he's now looking after his wife, but his marriage isn't going so well. It's widely debated as to whether he acted on his feelings, but Doyle fell in love with another woman.

Oh. Lady called Jean Leckie shortly before his wife's death. But, too, he's not well, don't be that guy and Gene Lekki's 14 years his junior during that same time Conan Doyle wrote a play about Sherlock Holmes is he wanted to shore up his bank account so to speak He was struggling a little bit for money the play opened in London was critically panned But it was a huge financial success. He's got some more money rolling in sweet Then in 1899 the ball war started in southern Africa and he declared to his horrified family that he was going to go and volunteer.

Having written about many battles without the opportunity to test his skills as a soldier and his own eyes, he wanted to prove himself. He felt that this would be his last opportunity to do so. But not surprisingly being somewhat overweight and at the age of 40 he was deemed unfit to enlist oh funny that instead he volunteered as a ship's doctor and sailed to Africa so we really wanted to get that during the few months he spent in Africa he saw more soldiers and medical staff die of typhoid fever than of war wounds so yeah he made he was made a night for his work on a nonfiction pamphlet regarding the war war. He was made a night. So you know how he's called Sir Arthur Conan Doyle?

Yeah. It's not because of Sherlock Holmes. It's because of a pamphlet. Was your pamphlet he made on the ball war? What the fuck? That's great. Well it's not like the whole night system's a load of shit, right? We've talked about this in the past, I think. Like, like, a lot of musicians and stuff are they're noted for their charity work

Yeah, but it's really because they're the Beatles or whatever right? I think that this is a similar case. This must be a really amazing pamphlet Oh, yeah, he had some sweet clip out on that There's a picture Wow, well the Prince who knighted him was rumoured at the time had knighted him because it was rumoured that he was a big fan of Sherlock Holmes and he hoped that by knighting him that he would inspire him to write more Sherlock Holmes stories. Why not just say, hey, can you write some more Sherlock Holmes stories? It's me.

A member of the Royal Family do it. I'll not do it if you do. Not you're knighted anyway. Hopefully you'd do it just in case. Yeah. Doyle returned to England and didn't start running and he ran for Parliament. Oh my God. But he was not elected. He's going to be so frustrating to be friends with Jerry too.

Yeah. Why don't you have a biopic? Sounds like a great movie. He sounds exhausting. He definitely is. That's like for a skump or something. It's done a bit of everything. For a skump as a lovable.

Yeah. He did is. That's like a poor scum or something. It's done a bit of everything. Although, for a company's success, we'll put everything together. For a company's success, we'll put everything together. Yeah, he did well. I mean, 1901 after an eight-year hiatus, Doyle brought Scholarcombs back in the novel, The Hound of the Bersker Villains. And it was a massive success. But I end his personal life, writing, looking after Louisa, sing Jean Lecky, the other lady, as discreetly as possible, playing golf,

driving fast cars, floating in the sky and hot air balloons, flying in early our cake and rather frightening aeroplanes, spending time on muscle development as bodybuilding used to be called at the time. Muscle development. Doyle was active, but not really contented. Oh, crazy.

When I was, I was surprised, I was surprised when he said fast cars. I didn't realize fast cars were around. Well, he was without ever having driven one before, because he was quite wealthy at the time. He's one of the first people in England to ever buy a car. Wow, that's amazing. It's because he had money to splash around.

And he competed in a couple of rallies as well. Really early on. Like in 1911, really early on. Yeah, wow. I guess. But it's not enough and he's lingering deep desire for public service made him go for a second attempt at politics in nineteen oh six but despite his fame he lost the election once more

gizzy just that they don't like anything about him apart from one of the car like come on just keep doing show like it's all we want the character he doesn't like the only thing anyone likes about it. That would be so frustrating. It would be hard, especially, yeah, and also you... That's the thing that's paying for all your other stuff as well. Yeah, so you've got to keep doing it. Keep doing it to pay for your adventures.

After Louisa died in his arms on the 4th of July 1906, Doyle slipped in a debilitating state of depression lasting many months. But finally, after nine years of a secret courtship, Doyle married Jean Lecky, very publicly in front of 250 guests a year later in 1907. They had three children adding to his two from his first marriage, so five children all up. Then the First World War broke out in 1914 and being the adventure He offered to enlist but being 55 years old at this time. He was two old

Also, he got married at 40 no no, it's 15 years and he's like, no do it. He woke up married in late mid to late 40s Remarried and then had three more kids. Yeah What a lie. Well, I know he's always going. Oh. He was told to me that it was too old, but when the Navy lost more than a thousand lives in a single day, his brilliant mind, never at rest, Doyle made suggestions

to the war office to provide inflatable rubber belts and inflatable lifeboats, which subsequently saved a lot of people in the war. What the fuck? He invented those? Well he said he suggested that they would really help out. Most government officials found him irritating at best. One of the exceptions was Winston Churchill,

who wrote back to him and thanked him for his ideas. Fuuuut out. I find him irritating. You found him irritating? He's just annoying. He does feel like an annoying mum. I don't know if he needs a mum- He's just a mum-a-boy.

Oh, he's a mum-a-boy. Imagine though, if you're sort of in a circle of friends that he's kind of a part of, and you're like having a nice party at somebody's house, and then he turns up and you're like, F***ing jealous. He only comes along as a packaged deal. Yeah, yeah, and you're like,

Oh, I don't know. I just want to ask a wild to come and he brought his mate. Yeah, hey, I think I, good to see you, man. Oh, okay, you're talking. You're already talking. It's kind of like this podcast and me. Well, I'm a fan of the guy. I think he's just got a thirst for life,

which he showed again when he was writing a book, which was going to be called the British Campaign in France and Flanders about World War I, he was given a permission to visit the British and French fronts in 1916, and the author was never able to forget the horrors of what he saw. So he went to war, but he just wasn't shooting. As I mentioned earlier, following the death of his wife in 1906, and then the death of his son, Kingsley, during the First World War, who'd been part of it and then developed an illness and died.

And the deaths of his brothers, his two brothers-in-laws and his two nephews. A lot of people, sadly in England, a lot of people, young men died in the First World War, obviously. He sank into a deep depression. He found solace supporting spiritualism and its attempts to find proof of existence beyond the grave and it became obsessed with it. So I said more on the occult and here it is. Whilst researching the topic of fairies, he came across some pictures belonging to a family in Cottingly, which is in rural Yorkshire, which are known to history as the Cottingly

Fairies. These images seem to show several small fairies dancing in the presence of two teenage girls. Conan Doyle championed the photos as evidence that fairies existed and eventually included them in a 1922 book, the coming of fairies. Oh, is it porn? Possibly. A decade later, the two girls in the photos admitted that they were obviously fake, He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like,

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he's like, he's like, he's like, he's in the photos were like no they're like oh man like we thought it was a bit of fun I feel so bad. Oh no we really didn't think anyone was actually gonna take this seriously. No it's clearly another guy They invented Sherlock Holmes spend a million dollars. I can't say that it's fake. Oh Exorsting Absolutely It's time to be alive where you could believe that fair is real? Or was it seen as being a bit? It was seen a bit, but some people were really interested in proving that existed.

This is only the 1920s, so in a century that we have all been alive in. So it's not like it's 2000 years ago when people haven't seen it. That's amazing, I can't believe. It's gone. This is like a medical man, very famous. He's intelligent. Really intelligent. In some ways.

Also very dumb. But I know people like that. In 1919, a magician who was famous at the time stayed to sayons at Doyle's flat in Bloomsbury. Doyle attended the sayons in his flat, obviously, and declared the clairvoyance to be genuine. Doreal was friends for a time also with Harry Houdini, I'm sure you've heard of the American magician, who was the most famous magician probably ever, who himself became a prominent opponent of the spiritualist movement.

He would obviously do these magic tricks, but then he would say, hey, it's all a trick, and anyone who says that it's not a trick is a liar. Wow. Although Houdini insisted that spiritualist mediums employed trickery and constantly exposed people's frauds, and because he's a magician, he would explain how they were doing it, Doyle became convinced that Houdini himself

possessed supernatural powers and was hiding something. Houdini performed an impressive trick at Doyle's home. Houdini assured Doyle that the trick was pure illusionic and that he was trying to prove a point that Doyle not endorsing the phenomena. He was saying, hey, I'm doing this to prove to you that it's fake, but Doyle refused to believe that it was a trick and the two very publicly

fell out with each other. Oh, God. The Doyle was like, no, you're lying. You are hiding magic from me. So he's a bit not quite right. Well, I think he's a piece of way too long to say he's had a lot of a lot of death in his family And I think it's sort of sort of send you don't stand up for him. He's an idiot. I think he's sort of turned on him He's an idiot. Lost it a little bit. Yes, I'm turned I've turned that's not like you

A duel continually praised and championed famous mystics who were repeatedly exposed or publicly admitted that they were frauds So it's not his images not looking too good because he keeps saying no match to it He's definitely magical and then you come out too excited and say now. I'm not It was just a trick the trick. It's a show the trick That's what that's what he would say though, isn't it? He doesn't want you all to know exactly that's know. That's sort of the attitude he had towards Houdini here. After 1918, because of his deepening involvement into the occult, Colonel Doyle wrote very little fiction, writing adduously about spiritualism instead.

He was a hard worker, he wrote dozens of books about spiritualism, subsequent trips to America, Australia, and to Africa accompanied by his wife and three children were also on spiritual crusades and to give public talks on spiritualism. He's become the worst. As he used to spend billions of dollars or millions of pounds in the pursuit of his dreams, Conan Doyle was faced with the necessity to earn more money. He published books about his other famous character. Have you heard of Professor Challenger?

No. He's a famous novel called The Lost World. I didn't know the Lost World. Oh, recognize The Lost World. But not from Jurassic Park. Oh, that's what I was thinking. Yeah. Right.

He wrote 12 more short Sherlock Holmes stories. He wrote 12 more short Sherlock Holmes stories in the 1920s for more money. But people increasingly talked about how they were not as good as they used to be. And he would publicly say, hey, when I first started doing this, no one knew the kind of character he was. And now people started guessing the endings and stuff. Because once you've written 60 short stories, it's sort of hard to keep thinking you've twists. Yeah.

Arthur Conan Doyle died on July 7th 1930. He was holding a flower at the time. What kind of flower? Come on, I'm afraid I don't know. Sun flower. So let's go with Sun flower. He collapsed in his garden clutching his heart with one hand and holding a flower in the other. His last words do her, his wife, his whisper to her. You are wonderful.

It's a great final on us. That is the lovely one. Bloody bloody nice. Now I'm back on board. He's great. And this is how I came onto the topic. And I can't confirm nor deny this. But I remember my family went to England when I was about 11. Did you do this also just because we apparently go on the same thing? No, I had to wait until I was 23 and purchased my own ticket.

Oh, they did? No, well I was very fortunate enough to have a family holiday paid for by my mum's uncle died and left money and he always loved travel and he left money saying, go traveling. Spend this on travel. That's great. Oh, that's a last-ly. Yeah, that's nice. And we went to, we saw where Sherlock, I mean, Arthur Cone Dorf, he was confused with Sherlock Holmes about his whole life and that pissed him off to great extent.

We saw the grave where Cone Dorf was buried, and which is very exciting for my mum, my mum, who's a big mystery fan and her father, also a big mystery fan. But at the time, I remember there was a tour guide and they told us that there's this big rumor that because of his spiritualism he was actually buried vertically standing up rather than lying. I couldn't find any more, the rumors on live, I couldn't find any way that confirmed

nor denied. That's so weird. So I was like, do for yes. Just better fang shui. I don't know, maybe you'll come back to life or something, I don't know. I just always remember that and I always thought that was quite strange and that sort of got me under the topic because I remember that you went up a little bit crazy later in life

so I just wanted to research that. And we come to the end of the show with some fun facts. Oh, you don't always do fun facts. I know, but I'll try. As a view here, first of all, we'll do some Doyle fun facts and then some Sherlock Holmes fun facts. I know, but I'll try. As a view here, first of all, we'll do some Doyle fun facts and then some Sherlock Holmes fun facts. Right.

The ones about Arthur Conan Doyle was that he was very into sport, as well as his adventuring. So we have some sporting fun facts about Arthur Conan Doyle. Because he was a sporting pioneer. He was first as a motorist. I reported before that he bought a car before it could even drive. And that rally I talked about before in 1911, he went on the Prince Henry II, an international road competition, organized by then Prince Henry of Prussia to pitch English cars against German ones. So there you go, he did a lot of, he entered a rally before it could even drive.

Conan Doyle was also on a famous cricket team, was some other famous people. Peter Pan writer Jay M. Barry was on the cricket team. Winnie the Pooh career, A.M.L. Oh, so all the team. So he also took a first class wicket as a bowler and the scale of none other than, which is a very famous cricket, a WG grace. Yes, I know that WG grace. So he took him bowl.

He led him very cricket. He bowled him out in a first class match. That's ridiculous. So he's really good. Under the pseudonym AC Smith, the writer played as a goalkeeper for an amateur football side, Port Smith Association Football Club, a precursor to the modern Port Smith FC. I've seen them play live. There you go, so he was on a very early version of their team. Really? He popularized skiing in Europe.

Okay, so this is what people got done pre the internet. You know, like they just did shit with their days. This guy sounds like the most ridiculous bullshit person ever. I don't believe in him. He's not real. He's more fictional than she looks like. He moved to Switzerland in 1893 for the amount. Did you say invented scheme?

He did it if he popularized it amongst you. He invented the moon. I'm drawing a line there. He moved to Switzerland in 1893. The mountain air was good for his wife to his health. Sure. He mastered the basics of skiing with the help of some locals who had taken up to practicing the sport after dark to being avoid being teased by the town's folk who made fun of them.

What? Doyle was the first Englishman to document the thrill of skiing. He wrote, you let yourself go, getting as near to flying as an any Earthman man can. In that glorious era, it is a delightful experience. Doyle correctly predicted that in the future hundreds of Englishmen would come to Switzerland for the skiing season, which they now do. What? They got so...

You practically got the skiing amongst you. Why do people? Alright, then we have Sherlock home fun facts. Yes. We'll see how many of the stats are. So there was four novels and 56, 56. 56? Yes, I am Sean Connery.

I'm a Shulokome. And Shulokome's show. He wrote four novels and 56 short stories starring Shulokome. That's a lot. These are the more fun facts. Shulokome's Museum is actually on Baker Street in London. And it is officially listed as 221B Baker

Streets. So if you write it a letter it will go there but it is in fact 239 Baker Street because that's the building they could get but then the male people because it's such a tourist attraction change the address. So if you go there it's 237, 221, 239, it's very very confusing but when Doyle chose the address, 221 didn't even exist at the time confusing. But when Doyle chose the address, 221 didn't even exist at the time. He created as a fictional address. He chose a number out of thin air.

But I don't know if it was just 221 Baker's straight. It really needs the B. The B sounds cool, doesn't it? 21B. Even though that obviously means it's like what a sublet. Yeah, it is. They've got Mrs. Hudson downstairs, and she's delightful. That is true

Sherlock Holmes is never described as wearing a deer stalker hat even though you all know him as a deer stalker He was described as wearing a hat I but if he's pictured in official illustrations that would go on the magazines and stuff with the deer stalker So that's where that image came from but speaking of The images Sydney Patrick drew most of the illustrations at home that accompanied the short stories that Holmes appeared in. So go on the magazine and have a picture of him. But Sydney got the job by chance. Doyle sent a letter to his brother Walter, who was also an artist, asking him to do the illustrations. Sydney opened the letter by mistake, but still took the commission.

Nice. And to make things worse, he based his illustrations on his brother Walter. Ah, brutal. So he stole his job then drew his brother. Not nice. Holmes often said in the books, elementary and my dear Watson, but never elementary, my dear Watson, together.

Ah. There you go. Sherlock Holmes used fingerprints to identify and as a silent before any real police force in the world did. Oh, that's cool. Apparently not. Look at Matt's face. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no That goes list Sherlock Holmes as the most portrayed movie character in history. I thought it was just like when he said most betrayed. And I was like, okay. Oh. Poor trade.

Poor trade. Do an unceased. As of 2012. Sherlock Holmes has appeared in 250 for films. Wow. I'm going to read a list to round things off of people that have played Sherlock Holmes. And there's quite the list. Obviously we have Charlie Sheen Jr. Yes. Also known as Robert Downey Jr. We have Robert Downey Jr. We have also played

Charlie Chaplin. He did too. There you go. That is true. Benedict's come a batch of course. Ian McCallan's had a go. Of course he has. He'd be great. Michael Cain has had a good night. Oh no. Michael has to have that. Hello. Ah. Hello, Gini then. Elementary, Mordy. What's in your own, you're only meant to blow the bloody doze off. Michael Kay. He does close from his other movies. Oh, all right.

Batman. All right, Master Wayne. Master Wayne. Also, I mean, you go imagine these people we've got a Christopher Lee. Oh Good Roger Moore. Oh Okay, yeah John Cleese. Oh Doctor who's Tom Baker Christopher Plummer, okay straight comedian David Mitchell

Australian Richard Mitchell. Yeah, David Mitchell is a pretty good one Same with John Cleeson or is he on stage? He was in like a mini movie thing. Yeah Australian Richard Roxborough. Oh, he'd be good Peter Oike you guys watch rake. Yeah, the right guy. That's right. I love rake. I can love it He was a great chill. Look Peter O'Toole Peter Cook the very famous commercial. Oh, wow. Orson Welds. Geez. And are my favorite and I thought most of the prising Leonard Neymoy. Ah, in was it in space? Sherlock in space. It was very Sherlock in space.

I've found that very amazing to imagine that at Neymoy. So that is the end of my episode on other Conan Doyle. So that is the end of my episode on the other Conan Doyle, Rack onto Adventurer, Skier, Spiritualist, Writer, Philanderer, possibly. I'm an, she said. I'm an, of course. And the famous role. I am an, obviously, also played by Charlie Shane Jr.

It all comes together. It all comes together. So there you go, that is our him and Sherlock Holmes. That was great Dave Real good as always because you do the best ones. They know you're not the best person Well, thank you very much. I hope I hope that was okay. Yeah, I'm a big fan of Sherlock Holmes is just cool. Yeah, she's just a cool. I'm gonna have to is it gonna be too much of a commitment for me to start watching the TV show? No, not at all. It's a. Because there's not that many of them. I mean, they're very, they're long.

Well, they like movie length episodes, but there's only three episodes a season. Oh, okay. I could do that. How many seasons? Three. Ah. Three? Sweet.

So I think, and also that extra movie that I haven't seen that they did at the scene. Oh, it happens in that eye that. They release it at the fourth. At the cinema. Brilliant. Right. And Martin Freeman is an excellent Watson. I really like him as Watson.

And like this time, somebody calls Sherlock a psychopath and he's like, high-functioning sociopath. Because that's what he is. He crazy. He crazy, but he cool. He's crazy, but cool. Man, he's so, so cool. Awesome. Thank you so much for listening, ladies, and gentle. And if you did enjoy the show, it's, we haven't said this in a while, but if you want to review us on iTunes that helps us and I get up and the ranking so more people can discover us man there's been some fucking funny reviews oh and also it makes a smile when there's some hilarity that goes into the reviews really funny ones I appreciate that all the five soons especially oh we we we we appreciate the five stars more than the

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