Two In The Think Tank - 250 - The Mad Trapper Of Rat River

Episode Date: August 5, 2020

Our 250th episode is all about the Mad Trapper Of Rat River. When Canadian authorities paid a visit to a remote log cabin, they didn't expect the man inside to shoot at them through door and then lead them on one of the longest and most grueling manhunts in history.Buy tickets to our live streamed shows, including episode 250 and this coming August 8: https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoonSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodCheck out our web series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2TuMQ31VXvqqEus9Bo6FZW-dDY5ukEuh Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:Alan Phillips, Who was the Mad Trapper Of Rat River, Macleans 1955:https://archive.macleans.ca/article/1955/10/1/who-was-the-mad-trapper-of-rat-river#!&pid=28Canadian Encyclopedia, Edward Butts:https://thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/albert-johnsonhttps://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/article/wilfrid-reid-mayAll That’s Interesting, a really great article by Andrew Lenoirhttps://allthatsinteresting.com/mad-trapper-albert-johnson

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as well as our final stream, this Saturday, August the 8th, 12 PM, Melbourne time. And if you have a ticket to this one, it also means we had our 250th birthday party after that, which was a lot of fun. And we had all our former report givers sending in videos for a fun quiz. So if you have a ticket, you'll see the likes of Nick Mason, Mr. Sunday movies, Claire Tonti, Alistair Nandy from Two in the Think Tank, Joel Dusha, Carl Chandler, Josh

Earl, Naomi Higgins, Sam Tonkin from Listen Now. Ah, it was such a great time. The only other thing I have to say is you'll notice that Matt's microphone sounds a little different to ours. That's because Matt was feeling a little under the weather, so just to be safe, he went and got a COVID test and was isolating from us, which he's since been absolutely cleared of. But yeah, his microphone sounds a little bit different to ours, but you can absolutely

hear him fine. So I hope you enjoyed this episode. We'll be back with 251 next week, until then, here it is, 250. Hello and welcome to another episode of Dugowan. My name is Dave Wonicky and as always I'm joined by Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hello! Hello! Hello for what is the 250th time guys?

Yeah and God we look good. We look great. 250, we look very good. 250 episodes young. Yeah. Has any other podcast ever done 250 episodes? I actually checked in the Guinness World Record book. Yeah. Also known as the Guinness Book of Records.

And we are the most prolific podcast of all time. Get out of town. Did you know that, Matt? And that's not even including the bonus episodes and all the amazing extra content we put out for people. That's right. This is an information, man. That's right. Listen, information now. It is now.

So yeah. You'll never believe where I got the balloons for today. I got them at Lombard, the paper people, for all your party needs. For the people at home who are listening to this podcast right now, we are surrounded by balloons and we're wearing party hats because we get into any occasion we can. Yes! We love it. We love to dress for an occasion.

Hey, go Matt, let's put a hat on. Yeah. Hey. The transition to serial killer is complete. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Well, I know we've found it 250 times now, but the only person that's been here for all 250 episodes is the legend that is Matt Stewart. So I'm going to ask you Matt, how does this show work? You know it more than anyone else. Oh, great. Thank you so much for asking. I'll fill this one. So, weight works is one of the three of us goes away and research is a topic that's been suggested by usually a listener, but could be anyone, could be my dad, like it was last week. And then, well, they go away and they research the shit out of it. And then they take that knowledge back to the group and report on what they've learned in the form of a report. And then the other two are annoying a bit. And it's fun, but we learn a lot.

Wow, those words were as fresh as they were 249 weeks ago. Thank you so much for that explanation. It is my turn to do the report this week, and we always start with a question and to get us onto topic, I'll ask that question. Am I? Question to both of you now is, Albert Johnson is better known to history

under what bad ass name, what bad ass name. I'm wondering if you've seen this one in the hat before. I will confirm that for the 250th episode I put out five topics for the Patreon supporters to vote on. Stuff that I've always wanted to do on this show. And this is the topic that I've put up to vote more times than any other. And it always came second. Really? And I reckon that maybe you would have seen it in the

in the hat. Is it Albert Fish? Well what do fish live in? Would you say a river? Yes. River Phoenix. No, this man is known as the the something of rat river. It's got everything already. I thought that maybe you would have seen it because it's like the title does stick out. Oh, King. Prince. He's a mad something of rat river.

Boater. Oh. The mad captain. Help me out here. Mad. Mad captain of rat river sounds good. Yeah, mad hatter. Mad.

Oh, how does it really close? Mad. Mad box. Mad. how does really close mad box Mad Quindos it sounds close. It is oh, oh, I just reveal it for you. It is the mad Trapper of rat river have you seen this topic in the hat before? I don't know if I have the mad Trapper. Oh, it stood out to me for years now And I wanted to do it because of rat river the mad Trapper of rat river. It's got everything you say Yeah, you heard of this one Matt? That rings the bell for sure, yeah. I've do it. I've put it up to vote. This is the fifth time and it's

finally come up Trump's for 250. Wow. I was saving it for a special occasion. Yeah, well, that's the people who voted. Yeah, the patron supporters, they know what they're doing. Hopefully, you've made a good decision. I feel like you have. I think they know. I'm already excited. Are you seriously cracking a beer? I'm so jealous. Matt's cracking a beer. Love it. All right.

Now, this topic has been suggested by a few people over the years. And thank you to Troy Baker, Chris Kerr, Yarna from Hamburg, Dave Rodgers, Tim Randall, and Derek Cluthier. Many of which are apart from, down from Hamburg or Canadian, listeners apart from Tim Radill, actually, he's also Australian, but most of those are Canadian listeners because this is a Canadian topic. Okay. So let's crack into our 250th report, The Mad Trapper of Rat River.

Now our story starts near Fort McPherson, an isolated spot in the northwest territories of Canada. In July of 1931, a stranger arrived in the small town. Consisting of just a few cabins in a small trading post, Fort McPherson was such a tidy and isolated community that any newcomer very much stood out. The stranger had arrived on a raft on Peel River and calmly walked into the log trading post to get supplies. The man behind the counter, Bill Douglas, sized up his new customer. The stranger was about 5'10", with blue eyes and had brown hair.

Probably about 35 years old, but his face was weathered not uncommon for men who lived and worked in the wilderness around these parts. Canadian magazine McLean's described the man as quote, a most unlikely material for romance. Okay. For riddle. What? So he's an algorithm.

Yeah. It doesn't sound like the most welcoming town. No, yeah. He just walks into bicep stuff and they're like, sizing up, what brings you around these parts? That kind of. Yeah, it's like, oh, you better be passing through. Yeah.

And you better not be here for romance because your face is unlikely to get anything. And only hotties here. I should also say that the town was full of supermodels so any ugly people really much stood out. Really stood out. They stood out. I hate visiting those towns.

Yeah, oh my god. I'm like, oh, I just need to get milk, but I gotta put on a frickin' bowl game. But I did a dress code at the milk bar. I just want to bubble a bit of ice cream. Not in those songs. The footwear. Bit of fun. Bill Douglas is the man behind the counter sizing up his new customer.

Try to make a bit of small talk with the man. Work out where he was from and where he was heading. But the man only spoke to order supplies and dodged any sort of interrogation. Right. Just changing the subject. Yeah, just like. Where you from? What's that over there? Yeah, a fishing rod.

Yeah, works every time. It was eventually established that the man's name was Elbert Johnson. Elbert Johnson. This is almost certainly an alias, but for now that is what we'll call him. Bert Johnson. It's a pretty good name.

I don't mind it. Bertie J. I like that. I like that. You thought the cover Albert Johnson was covering for his real name, Bert Johnson. I'll never figure it out. I think that, yeah, you need to get on the code. Crack the case. He spoke with a faint Scandinavian avian accent. Oh, what's that sound like? And people speculated that he may have come from Denmark. Wait a dodge that. May try to throw you under the bus.

I thought you were talking about how does a Danish accent sound? I went to school with a Danish guy. So yeah, I know that's pretty well. Have I told you about him before? He got the nickname Denmark. Oh, that's good. That was good. Where did they get that from? I'm not sure. I never cracked that code.

It's like them. I think it sounded a bit like, um, hello, how's it going? Yeah, that is pretty exciting. Well, I can understand why they call him, Denmark. Because it's a faint accent, remember? It's a faint accent. So faint that it was almost non-existent.

It's like a girl that came to my school in about U10, Tanya, and we called her Canada. She was from Canada. Oh, wow. Yeah. In primary school in Prep First Grade here, we had a girl in our class called Amy French. Oh, wow. Yeah. In primary school in first grade here, we had a girl in our class called Amy French. Oh, yep.

The teacher had to call a meeting to explain that that was just her name and that she was not in fact French. She had to call a meeting. Yeah, because we were all like, she was French and the teacher had to be like, no, no, her name is just French. She is not.

What do you mean you were all acting like she was French? But we just, how do you act when someone nearby is French Well, you know, well, you know come on kids We just thought you called amazing like you're all business partners at the school We're calling him aiding shareholders. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you had his attention. No, we were brought into the boardroom. We all had to sell our stocks. It was very fun.

So you had his faint Scandinavian accent, possibly from Denmark, but he never told them that. In fact, he never told them anything. OK. He spent several thousand dollars on supplies over the next few days, which was a very sizable sum of money in those days. And it was very obvious he was getting ready to trap.

That is, trapping animals for their fur pelts that would be sold for large sums of money. Oh, okay. So that's why he's called the mad trapper. Mad trapper, got it. During the Great Depression, fur trading had proved to be one of the few lucrative professions. So it wasn't too uncommon for strangers to arrive in these very isolated areas to try their luck. A bit like gold mining 80 years earlier. What was different about this man is that he didn't seem to be struggling for money at all. Judging by the cash that

he carried, he seemed quite wealthy. But what if the cash that he carried was everything? Yes, there's got his life savings. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, I might look wealthy if I got a hundred bucks in my wallet because we don't really carry cash anymore. That's all I've got. That's everything. I cleaned out the vault for this hundred. I wanted to feel rich. And then I realized, oh, things are not good for me right now. I'm so sorry. Yeah. As he was preparing to go trapping over the next few days, people began to talk about the newcomer, became to talk of this spares more town. Police officer, a mountain named Edgar Millen,

widely known as Newt. Oh, like that. Well, Newt came to town. It was on a routine patrol, but it had heard about Johnson from First Nations people in the area. So everyone's talking about this guy. Douglas, who'd sold the supplies to the newcomer,

told Newt the mountain that he reckoned with the supplies the man had bought, and the few questions he'd asked about the area, that he guessed the man was probably gonna head up, Rat River. Rat River! That old, Rat River! I love how gossipy this town is.

Oh, like even the Mounties like so, the deal with this guy, you know, like get over it. Yeah, for sure, people are being arrested based on rumor in this town. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The the the mountain you decided you'd better have a chat to Johnson.

To work out of you as heading out route river and to find out if you knew just how dangerous and unforgiving this part of the world would be. So I'll just go give him a bit of it. Give him a talk to CV works out what he's getting into. When Newt found Johnson, he was

assembling his gear and getting ready to leave. He was certainly not happy to see the police officer. Johnson reluctantly shook the mountain's hand. Newt asked Johnson where he'd come from and he gave an answer that contradicted the direction

that it had actually been seen to arrive from. Oh, okay. So Newt knew he was lying? It's hard to let it go. Yeah. Catch him in the lie. Yeah. I'll see you in a few more questions,

which Johnson was evasive with his answers, and said he wasn't sure how long he was planning to stay or where he intended to go. Basically gave Newt nothing. When Johnson mentioned rat river as a possible destination, Newt was shocked to hear it confirmed because it was a perilous journey. No. Newt asked if Johnson was going alone and strongly suggested that he should hire a local guide.

Okay. Again from McLean's magazine. No, Johnson said violently. I don't want people bothering me. I like to live alone. You police just cause me trouble. Trouble. Okay, I was like,

oh, did I hear you right? Trouble. So did you hear a slight, slight, get an even accent there? Yeah, trouble. I can't say B. They can't. No, they can't do it.

It's like, I said a bit of a V instead. It's very cute. Please just cause me trouble. I don't want nothing to do with you. You want to know all about me? All right, I'm not staying here. If I'm not staying here, you don't have to know all about me. A.

Yes. I can't. So blending in there with the Canadian A. Basically told the police officer, piss off, I'm not your problem, I'm about to go. Yeah. Finally, Newt offered to sell Johnson a trapping license. Without one, trapping would be illegal.

And if you bought one now, it would save Johnson a trip back into town later. Okay, but is it at a higher price now, Newton? No, apparently not. It was so it was just basically doing him a favor, get the hunting license now. You look like he going trapping, but now don't worry about it later.

But Johnson said, no thanks. I haven't decided what I'm gonna do yet. Okay. And with that, he's set off into the wilderness, and that was the last we heard from him for a while. For a while. So the story does not end here. No, this is but the introduction. Matt, what do you think so far? Are you a fan of this Bert Johnson aka Albert Johnson aka L. Bert Johnson. We just seems like a guy is going about his business right? Yeah, it feels like we're flying just talking about him. Yeah, we're a couple of sickos here. Real nosey nellies.

Yeah, what is this? You guys belong in that town. What, you guys are probably from Rat River the way you go about it? Yeah, I love ghosts I love ghosts. Yeah, you do you rat you love writing you love writing on rat reporters and ghosts book oh well What do you know how long you go? Anyway, they've to go on Because they probably about a 30 second talk break there and then move on with the report but no no, gosh, okay. So the last we heard from him, that was July. By December.

1931. The 30s. But by December, the freezing snow and winter had well and truly set in. And I mean freezing, the weather during this time in this part of the world regularly dips as low as negative 40 degrees. It decimbrose that not the summer? No. No. Hot air summer. Yeah.

I was like, oh my god, Dave, you sound so stupid right now. What imaginative it was there summer? Yeah, it is there summer and it's top of negative 40. I was so stupid right now. Imagine if it was there someone, I'm like, yeah, it is there summer, and it's top of negative 40. I was so confused. But that's our summer. It's not for us in December. So in the, quite cold for them up there.

In the Northern hemisphere. And they're very, they're just explaining. This is very far in North Canada, absolutely. I have a degree. I'm a tertiary educator. And you've got a terrarian meteorology as well. Yeah.

Look at that. A paid for it. Just for our international listeners, that is our negative 40 in both Celsius and Fahrenheit. What do you mean? Wow. What does that mean? The one temperature where they match up on the scale. Yeah, that's it. You know that. It's a good trivia fact for you if you ever need to

wheel that one out of the pub quiz. That's fascinating. Mars 40, both Celsius and Fahrenheit. So we can all agree it's fucking cold. That's awful cold. What does that even mean? Negative 40, that's like real cold. That's like colder than your freezer. Am I right? If you're in your freezer, that's colder than that. Yeah. It's the kind of thing where you're sleeping the freezer for warmth. Yeah. it's the kind of thing where you'd sleep in the freezer for warmth. Yeah, it's the kind of thing where your snot freezes in your nose. Oh no, Jess, please, we're at a dinner party now. No talking like that, thank you.

I always talk about snot at dinner parties. Yeah, it's one of your traits. I'm snot girl! Great, so you're getting invited to a lot of parties. Well, I live in my truth. So I was doing this very cold time that stories of Johnson began to emerge. Local First Nations people complained to the Royal Canadian-Mounted Police, Mounties. Dudley Deer, I.

Yeah. Brent Fraser. Cannot wait for that with Fraser in the bar. They complained to the strange white man had failed to get up rat rapids and had built a small 8x10 foot cabin near a trap line that they'd been using for centuries. They said that this man was springing their traps so setting them off prematurely or throwing them into the forest

and then illegally setting up his own in their place. So these people have been trapping their facentries and they have the right to do that. So he set up a piece. He set up a home for himself. Down I go. I've had a fall. That's bad news.

Yeah, it is worried when the oldies have a fall. It sounded like you were cleaning out the carage before. You felt, you felt like you don't have a bit of spring cleaning during this report? Sorry, well, you had gone on with your jibber jabber. I thought I'd get a few things done around the house. Rather shed. Well, it's a house for me.

A man's shed is his home, Jeff. No, that man's shed is that man's home. That man not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'll wait for it. Yeah, sorry. It's about three by two point four meters. What is wrong with me? I get anything right today. It's almost like I keep trying. So the first nations people were complaining that he's setting up their traps and just like fucking up their hunting.

The first complaint came through on Christmas day. So this is secretly a Christmas episode. Merry Christmas to everybody. Oh, Merry Christmas. Christmas in July. Only it's August. Damn it. So close. So two officers decided to go and pay Albert Johnson

a visit because their territory is so large and unforgiving it took three days just to get there. Wow. It's unbelievable. How much territory they got to cover. When Constable Alfred King and special constable Joe Bernard. Oh, how do you be a special constable? I feel like I'd be a special one.

I get to wear a different kind of glittery badge or something. They give you a plastic gun. Yeah, it would be me. When they finally arrived, Johnson's captain to question him, he simply refused to answer the door. Oh, that old chest. So the officers had to turn around and travel 128 kilometers or 80 miles back just to get a search warrant. So you traveled all that way, knock, knock, knock. He doesn't answer, so they have to trek three days back. I mean, think ahead and just, why not just get that in the first place.

You know what he's like. They're planning to be just to have a chat with him, telling that he wasn't allowed to trap in this area, and that was probably it, given him a warning. So they thought it was going to be a big deal. Yeah. So on December 31st, so yes, this is secretly a new year's episode. The first couple. Happy new year, everybody.

It was another three day trip, but they got there and this time, King and Bernard were backed up by Constable, R.D. McDowell, and, brace yourself for this, Jess, special constable, Lazarus, siti chin Lee. Yes. Lazarus, siti chin Lee. Siti chin Lee, I've written that out for an echo. Siti chin Lee. Siti chin Lee. Great, now. Everyone have a gold home. Siti chin Lee.

Siti chin Lee. That's great. Bit of fun. Lazarus, too. The first name Lazarus, so good. Four. This time they'd made a cracking pace back to the cabin. King was impatient to finish this business in time to get back to shopkeep

Bill Douglas's famous New Year's Eve party. Being held back in town. They're like, we got to wrap this up in the morning. First things we can get back by midnight so we can party with Bill Douglas. You know, he's parties. He's got the best co-kay. They're legend. He's got the best cocaine. They're legend.

A lot of snow outside, best snow inside. Bill Tugl says how? And inside my nose. That's what they're thinking about. They're thinking about the party. Love that. This is still routine. They got the sets where I'm now.

So they knock on the door and no one answered. So this time they got a search warrant. They tried to force the door and then boom! Albert shot at them through the door, hitting King and knocking him into the snow. He was badly wounded having been shot in the stomach. The officers fired back briefly before tending to King's wounds and loading him onto a sled before making the frantic trek back to get medical help. Fortunately, King would survive his injuries. No word if he ever made it to Bill Douglas' New Year's Eve party. Probably not, I reckon. If he's been shot in the tum,

and he's got to be in hospital for a bit, yeah, I reckon they'd let him out for the party. I don't think so, I hope. Nurses are, they're real sticklers like that. No, unfortunately you don't need to stay in hospital. I'm keeping you high. I don't care. I've got some little party. I was here. It'll be a bit of fun. Yeah, the nurses are like, if I've got to miss out on Bill Douglas' party and work, I'll do the short straw. Then you got to stay here too. I'll give you a thimble of shampoos and a little bump of coke. All right. Jesus. No matter, will, can we 10 C.C. of cocaine down here. That's what C.C. stands for, I believe.

But now it was fully on. Albert Johnson was a proper wanted man. Oh man. He's just going to war with the Mounties. The ice is police. I know. But now I'm mad. They turn their head backwards.

It's the same hat. But now we're getting revenge. Before it was quite minor of illegally trapping, they were going to have a chat room, but now it was attempted murder of a police officer. So they're taking this quite personally. Inspector Alexander Eames led the party with Bernard and a much larger group of nine men this time. So they'd brought in the cavalry they got in Alexander Eames led the party with Bernard and a much larger group of nine men this time So they'd brought in the cavalry they got in Alexander Eames. So it's Eames and nine men

So 10 in total 10 and 42 dogs okay laden with supplies leave two dogs back, but happy with the 10 men Okay, what is the meaning of life number isn't it Dave 42 dogs? Yes, yes 42 dogs It all makes sense Oh, they reached the cabin on January 9 after taking a long overland route guided by First Nations people They didn't want to take the normal route for fear of an ambush Sure So they went the back way yeah being guided through the horrible train They arrived at the cabin and could hear a man inside so Inspector Eames called out to the man to surrender as he was now surrounded

When they say you can hear someone inside jerk any singing to himself when the moon Or he's baking Palson pan Surrender! I got it! Wrap up your business first. Just a minute! Occupies!

But there was no answer. Can you believe that again? They're called out and said, Surrender mate. No answer. You don't say. That doesn't seem like him. I wonder if everything's okay. As a lawman approached the silent cabin, he went silent. Sh shots rang out from within. Johnson was firing at them with a shotgun and a rifle and they had to retreat.

So he's shooting at them through the door again. Two men got close enough to the door to attempt to force it open, but Johnson again opened fire and they were driven back. Wow! Eames, El Inspector, realizing that Johnson wasn't going to give up quietly gave the direction to bring in the cavalry and I don't mean horses, I mean dynamite. Oh, okay, Gra, I thought I was just going to send some dogs in. I'm like, I mean, dogs are pretty clever. I'm not sure if they can open the door like that.

I know. You see, man? What if you've touched the dynamite to the dogs, Bob? Well, you did say that there was 42. You just said there were two too many. Don't, you make me blow up dogs. Don't make to the dogs, Bob. Well, you did say that there was 42. You just said there were too too many. Don't you make me blow up dogs? Don't make me do that.

Hey, you said it, Jess. You could have asked for eight more, but you specifically asked to kill two dogs. I said leave two at home, give them a day off. I actually think the treasure is... We all knew what that meant. The ultimate day off. I think in World War II they actually tried that.

Oh my god. It's a blow up, maybe possibly the first one to work. It's a blow up tanks. Oh it's just done a mind to a dog which is obviously horrific. I'm only laughing because it went run, still this is nothing to laugh at. It went wrong because the dog would often come back and blow up the people that it sent to. It was like, because they're like, oh my friend, they'd be like, no, and they'd be like, yeah, you're yelling at me.

You love me. You're bounding, bound to be like, no, no. So that's the one. I think the Donomat stick is like an almost fetch stick. Yeah. Bring it. You wanted this back row. So, but in this thing, back to Canada, they lit a few sticks of dynamite and threw them in the roof of the cabin, eventually blowing off the roof

and partially collapsing one of the walls. When the huge echoes of the explosion stopped bringing out on the snowy mountains that surrounded them, everything went still, became quiet. The mountain is closed in on the rubble. The rubble? The rubble. The rubble. The rubble. The rubble. Of where the log cabin once stood, getting ready to sift through the rubble of the remains of the outlaw. They're expecting to find a body. And that's when Johnson emerged from

within the rubble and again opened fire. Now we didn't. Oh my god. What are you doing? They blew this man's house up around him. What's hiding? And then he basically kicked out the rubble and with two shotguns, it just started Arnold Schwarzeneggering back at them. You've just made him angry, is all you've done. I know.

Like, why is he doing this? The question is how it he survived. It was later discovered that he dug a deep trench inside the cabin that had formed a series of bunkers. He was shielded by a double barrier of logs sunk at least three feet into the earth and had been waiting for their arrival. Oh my god. What? Why?

Why? What was he? What's he doing? Well he shot a police officer and he thought they're probably not gonna let this place just answer the freaking door and I know to say hello I'm not allowed fair enough sorry about that I'm new to the area have a lovely day and then when they turn around shoot them in the back totally no don't do that don't do that don't do that

Albert Johnson but he did do that and after this, they've sifting to the rubble, he comes out, start shooting at them. They have to retreat again and a 15-hour gunfight broke out. Oh my God. That's too many hours of gunfight. No, thank you. I get hungry. 15 hours, I gotta be out here shooting. I don't want to do anything 15 hours. They might have been a snack break, Bob. Oh, yeah, that's true. Did they stop for lunch? Yeah, for sure, absolutely. And after an NT.

Oh, okay, that's nice. But it lasted well into the early morning hours despite the 43 below zero temperatures. No. That's a no from Bob. That's a no from me, thanks. No one was injured, but the Mounties decided to withdraw to get more supplies.

No one was injured. 15 hours of gunfight. No one was injured, but the Mounties decided to withdraw to get more supply. No one was injured. 15 hours of gunfight. No one was injured. So neither side achieved anything. Basically, you were a stalemate, a trench warfare all over again. News of the unknown gunman made it to the press. They dubbed the mysterious figure the mad trapper of rat river. Love that.

The story of a man defined the famous mounted police from within his Arctic fortress fascinated the public. This is according to the Canadian encyclopedia, and I trust this source with my life, because it was written by a man called Edward Butts. Yep. Good stuff. I love you, Edward Butts.

This is what Butts writes about the man Trapper and the fascination. A public mired in the depths of the Great Depression sympathized with the figure. Inspector Eames stated that Johnson was not a demented Trapper, but a shrewd and resolute man, a tough and desperate character. End quote from there, as the northern drama unfolded, the public eagerly awaited the latest developments. So according to butts, he became big news around Canada. Wow. People who are loving. Is it a led? Yes, people are loving this. It's a bit of an outlaw Ned Kelly type story. And you know what people love to do with celebs? Goss up about him. Oh, yeah. Love a bit of goss, eh I love to round about them. I love a bit of ghosts. Yeah, I'm what's the ghosts on a butt spot?

Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, yeah. Wow, you said it. You didn't hear it from me. Can I just say that that is allegedly? Yeah, allegedly. That is that's some spice stuff. Uh, the police returned to the cabinet feud as later on January 14th, 1932, and they found that Johnson had fled. A massive blizzard had struck the area which covered Johnson's

tracks. We didn't have a roof anymore, so I don't blame him for fleeing. Yeah, friend, I think he went to find a roof. So he's, he's tracks were covered, but the blizzard made it very hard going for the Mounties, and they assumed that it would also made it hard for Johnson himself. With no shelter to protect him, they were certain a stranger to the area with struggles to survive, probably die pretty quickly. He had no dogs to carry supplies, he was out there on his own, all he had was the clothing on his back and a couple of guns. But Johnson was no fool. He traveled on frozen rivers to avoid leaving a trail. Where possible he followed

Caribou trails, an effective way of disguising his own tracks. He often doubled back on himself and even attempted to outsmart the Mounties on his trail by walking with his snowshoes on backwards. But they also just said they couldn't track him. But he's still like, evade them and they're like, we can't find you trail anyway mate. But when they do pick it up, they're like, is this guy going backwards? Wow. Okay. If you aren't going to get her a bit.

Is this guy a river? He's all of these things. He found his way through underbrush that seemed impenetrable to anyone else. And to avoid giving away his position, he was only able to build small fires when they were shielded by snow banks. So according to the Canadian Psychopedia again, butsy, Quoddy traveled and weathered the kept even experienced First Nations Hunters in their camps and used the terrain to his advantage at every opportunity. Wow.

This has just got a knack for getting through the wilderness. All the while, this guy's legend is growing in the local media. Unbeknownst to him out there in the wilderness, he is quickly becoming a fascinating outlaw hero. Okay. All right. This isn't the type of life I would want, but um... It's a tough life.

If Johnson wants to do that, that's cool. Sure. Sure, go for it, I guess. Shoot at some cops. Well, he had to again, because the police didn. Sure, go for it, I guess. Showed it some cops. Well, he had to again, because the police didn't catch up to him until January 30, three weeks since they'd blown up his cabin. Oh my god.

So three weeks on the run, they spotted Johnson and opened fire on him before he dived into a bush. He was hauled up beside a cliff face and looking like he was pinned down. Constable Edgar Millen, aka Newt, and started the story, called out for Johnson to surrender. Johnson responded by firing his rifle. Of course he did. So the only way he knows. The only language he speaks. Possibly more code? No, no. Peace off. Well, the shot hit hit Milan in the heart and killed you instantly. No, I know I'm not cute. I know

I know very little about new but I liked him. He seemed alright. Yeah. I Didn't read this anywhere else, but one of our favorite websites all that's interesting dot com writes afterward police Well, I told it was my favorite website uh... they write that after the shot afterwards police wore the her johnson cackel uh... sounds about right bad boy the other officers retrieved uh... newt's body and by the time they got back to

wear johnson had last been seen he had again disappeared having escaped under the cover of darkness by climbing in almost vertical back to where Johnson had last been seen, he had again disappeared. Wow! Having escaped under the cover of darkness by climbing an almost vertical cliff. This guy's a psycho! No! He's like some sort of non-giving up school guy. I thought because he just wanted to like be left alone. I know.

He just wanted some peace and quiet. He's got to be hiding something, right? Well, the amount he's inspected where he'd been, next to the cliff and discovered that he appeared to be unwounded, no sign of any injury, no blood. They realized that the spot where they thought he'd been pinned down was in fact a makeshift foxhole that he'd made by reinforcing several spruce trees and roots. So again, he'd been prepared for them to come. He'd built like a fortress. Having climbed the cliff and got yet another head start, the guest he was intending to walk across

the mountains to freedom. What do you mean to freedom? I thought he might be heading for Alaska and once he got there, they thought he might disappear forever. Yeah, right. So they went after the fugitive, but this time they called in some reinforcements. More dogs. More dogs and more dynamo. They called in a plane, kept it by the renowned bush pilot, Wilfred Wop May. Yes. So many, every name in this has been fantastic. The 30s. They knew how to name kids. I'll say it, you know? Whop. When he was a rookie in World War One, Whop, the pilot, was the last person pursued by the famous Red Baron who was gunned down as he went after Whop. So this guy's got a cool resume as a pilot.

He's a bad ass. He's a bad ass. He's seen it all. So the plane was a great step up in two ways. It could be used to resupply the Mounties. In a few hours, he'd give them new men, new food, all that sort of stuff. And it could also track Johnson from the air. Yeah, okay. Meanwhile, the Trapper, our outlaw hero, Johnson found the conditions to be finally taking their toll. It'd been on the run for weeks without any real shelter

and conditions that never rose above freezing Never even of the hottest part of the day. He's not even stopping in at the supermarket for snacks. No Maybe Dave just started telling that part of the story Dave. You telling the whole story? Yeah, he uh stopped it came out and he bought himself a schnude Yeah, great. So he snuggled it there, but it's why so you can't even see the air. Yeah, you can't see. nude. And he got a bucket of skittles. Oh, yeah. But you only see it came up. Oh, no. And then your hand just becomes a rainbow. Yeah. You decide it's a good idea. And then you get one handful in your like,

I've got terrible stagmas with $10. And that was he's, that was his undoing the skittles. Because he dropped a left a colorful trail. Yeah, he left a trail of orange ones because he doesn't like those flavors. He's a psycho, orange a delicious. Really? Green can fuck off. Yeah, green and Marley's favorite.

Green apple, no thanks. But it never rose above zero. So suffering from frostbite, he couldn't hunt with his gun for fearing of giving away his position and now he was slowly starving to death. Okay. He's got no foot. His skills ran out. I don't, but I don't feel like he's gonna get what like I've just so confused as to why this all started just because he was like, no, let me alone.

I know. And because some cops came to have a nice conversation with polite chat to him and he shot at him. and now he's just I tell it. Oh yeah Okay, you're you're starting with the bad boy You're not kidding. We always do we can't be chubby. It's back Bad boys. I'm sure each other in the stomach. Yeah So the bad

stomach. Yeah. So bad. Always. Look, I say he's starting to have having said that Johnson still gave them a run for their money. In early February, Johnson was spotted from the air, so on the ground, two groups set out to corner him. They split the party. No, don't split the party. The try and cut it off. Mathematically, I don't think two groups can corner someone He fucking no no Dave you just got fucking got mate Good one Matt and pick up the trapper is also a school of mathematics because they did not corner him They tried to cut him up the two groups ran into each other before finding anything other than a trailer-wared bean So they'd be like go around the back. Oh come out the front and they found each other before finding anything other than a trail-wearied bean, so they'd be like, go round the back, oh, come out the front, and they found each other before they found him. That's nice. Not to tell each other though.

Yeah. No, that is nice. No, no. But it will be even nice if they found themselves. That's why a lot of people go to the wilderness, just to find themselves. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. These guys are going about it all wrong, trying to find a man had her or whatever this guy

is. Yeah. Different. Why yourself first? Love yourself. Love yourself. You're on about it all wrong trying to find a man had a or whatever this guy is different different first love yourself first before anyone can love you. Yes. Yes. You got to love you first. Right. I'm learning so much. Yeah. This is we're getting Dave with our help won't be a virgin forever. Dave love yourself and then people love you. Basically, you know what that means give yourself a bit of self love mate I've been doing that for years I mean Arisa makes quite long

All right, keep at it. Oh, yeah, anything. It's quite long. Hey, or is it maybe this? Don't answer that dive Answer the question Dave. Is this thing on? On February 9th, the Blizzard Grounded May is playing and this is WAP and kept ground patrols in their camps. Three days later the police received the astonishing report that under the same harrowing conditions, Johnson had crossed the Richardson Mountains. It seems like an almost impossible feat,

so they can't even go outside. He's crossing mountains. Has he got some kind of ski do or something? Have they not mentioned that? I forgot to mention that he had some sort of teleportation to my- Yeah, he's got a segway, but with chains on the wheels. That's for sure. But with chains on the wheels. Been rocking up at the bottom of a mountain. They're putting tight snow chains on cars and you're on a segway Chain around say up there boys He's good

God this guy's good Like he's on a roller coaster. No, I want a weathe to get that. Well, we just did. A week later, on February 17th, the search party in Johnson ran into each other on a bend of the frozen Eagle River. Both were taken by extreme surprise. Oh, he wasn't prepared for this show. He was backtracking to cover himself.

It was that thing we'd come around and go, oh shit! Yeah. Shit. At first, Johnson tried to run, but then he threw himself down in the snow and opened fire using his backpack for cover. Inspector Eames again called for his surrender,

giving him one last chance to lay down his weapons, but Johnson wasn't ever gonna give up without a fight. What has he made his backpack of? Dave, how do you use your backpack for cover? I'm guessing it's not a little camp, the satchel or something? No, it's a reinforced concrete. Six feet thick. That makes sense, sir. Yeah. And he was carrying Ned Kelly's mask, helmet in his backpack. So he opened fire and shot Sergeant Earl Hersey, who was severely wounded, although he didn't die. Nothing, God. So he shot three officers now though. I would hate for Earl to die. Yeah, Earl didn't deserve it. Earl sounds like he's, you know, two weeks away from retirement.

You know, he's got a few grandkids at home. He just wants to go be a good grandpa. Yeah, he's got a person, he's, I am, he's ready to die. Oh, he's, I was born red. But he didn't die despite his destiny. Despite his destiny. And he's still alive.

Nine years later. Wow. He's the oldest man ever. Wow. He's a little bit too long. One week from retirement then and it's been a long week, it's still working. He loves it, he loves the job. Keep telling his wife, just one more week.

And she believes him every week. So our outlaw has shot another officer. The officer spread out an open fire, and despite being shot three times, the man commonly called the mad trapper kept firing back. What? But sadly, all good things must come to an end. And when Johnson's firing stopped for long enough for the mental approach, they discovered that he'd been shot through the spine and died.

In total he had been shot five times without ever letting out so much as a cry. This guy is an actual psychopath. He sounds like he was on something. All up he had been on the run for 48 days and led the highly skilled mountain on a 240 kilometer or 150 mile chase through the harshest terrain on earth. Whoa. For what? I know.

Well, the question immediately came. Who was he? Who was he? What did he deal? Do you have any inkling as to why someone would do this? He's like, he's killed someone Before you know heading off into the mountains or something always got something to hide and that's why I really love this Surely because like why else are you just being so immediately hostile? I get it if you're a bit of a loan and you don't want to be around people

Okay, you're not here to join the community sure you're not running for man next month, but I mean, that arrived to tell him you've been nominated for man. I just got you. What? Yeah, there's only six people living this town and everyone else has had a go. And all the things you seem nice. You're up. So what do you reckon? And you shot him. You should know. We're going to take those a maybe? Yeah, I reckon he's hiding something. Matt, what do you reckon? Well, he has, he obviously thought they're after him for something else, right? Otherwise, you wouldn't react to like that.

So yeah, what's he done? Maybe, yeah, maybe is he DB Cooper or something like that? Does that time out well? He could be a very, very young DB Cooper, like if he was some sort of baby. Oh, pre DB. Well, you know how they say that sometimes when babies are born like they can like hold their breath naturally all that sort of stuff.

Maybe they can also survive in the wilderness for several weeks. I'm willing to test it. Yeah. Anybody got a baby? I can borrow for just for. We're going to drop it with a parachute at mother, the Alaskan wilderness. We'll see what happens. You want have to agree back back in two guns. Good luck to you.

See you later, baby. That's not me being offensive and calling you baby. I don't know your name in your baby. Well, careful search of Johnson's body uncovered no form of identification, no photographs, no personal momentos None had been founded his cabin either All it carried were practical stuff like a razor, a comb, mirror, fish hooks, matches, nails and axe, a pocket compass 119 shells, so he fired a lot, but he still had a lot of ammo left. Fresh water pearls, some gold dust. What?

Was that just the stuff that's at the bottom of the cornflakes packet? Yeah, you're saving a pallet. Yeah, love that stuff. $2,400 in bills, which is a lot of money at the time. And a bottle full of gold teeth, which didn't match his dental records. He's just carrying teeth.

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it's bag, keys, wallet, mask, teeth. Duh. A post-mortem was carried out before he was buried in a local cemetery. The report didn't offer many clues. All it deduced was he was likely in his 30s, had no tattoos or major identify marks. It looked like he'd never had any major surgery, and his fingerprints didn't match any on police records across Canada or in Washington, Stockholm or London.

It's almost like this guy had never existed. They also traced these weapons and they checked Stockholm if he was from Denmark. Shouldn't they have checked Copenhagen? Yeah, it was a clerical era. They were like, close enough. I'm sure he went to Stockholm during his time. At some point. I don't know.

They also traced these weapons and banknotes and those leads also came to a dead end. Who is this guy? Before he was his body was buried, police took several pictures of Johnson's corpse. These were widely distributed. Hoping someone would come forward and recognize him. Do you know this corpse? I'm a back of milk, like it's a stuff. He put the corpse in lost property. Come and claim him. If you don't claim, he's not claimed within four weeks, he is up for grabs.

Yeah, and Sharon is king. She's a very lonely woman. I've always wanted to about her in corpse. Just want something to hold at night. Oh, Sharon. Oh, nothing weird. I've got a king bed. And, you know, I'm on one side. There's nothing on the other. Be great to roll over. I mean, people have suggested I get a large body pillow. It's just not the same thing.

Someone said I should just get a dog. But all the dogs here are working for the police. They've all got dogma. Why don't you get a large body pillow when you can just get a large body? Exactly. Cheryl. So the Mounties said the images to various forms of media,

which of course were happy to cover the already sensational story. Yeah. Because they loved it. It came to a big shoot out. It was a big dramatic finish. to various forms of media, which of course were happy to cover the already sensational story. Because they loved it. It came to a big shoot out. It was a big dramatic finish. Now they've got pictures of the body. So it's big news around Canada. Nothing happened for a while, but eventually a few years later, someone came forward with a tip off. Years later, it was said that the corpse resembled a man named Arthur Nelson. In British Columbia, in 1925, about six years before all of this, a man who called himself Arthur Nelson. In British Columbia in 1925, about six years before all of this, a man who called himself Arthur Nelson was trapping along the Nelson River. Nelson had the same description,

skills and temperament, and accent as Albert Johnson. It appeared that Albert Johnson had moved northward to Yukon, and where Nelson disappeared, Albert Johnson had appeared.ward to Yukon and where Nelson disappeared, Albert Johnson had appeared. Gotcha. From there, many stories have been put forward over the years. And it's almost certain that Albert Johnson was also an alias. Yeah. These are the stories about Arthur Nelson.

Apparently, he loved the people that that remembered seeing him. He loved local legends about lost gold mines and often spoke about going out to find them. Okay. The theory is, had he found the mine and that's why he was so keen to be left alone, was he hiding it? Was he scaring people off,

including the First Nations people by throwing away their traps and also shooting it, the police hoping that no one would discover his secret mine? Yes, he had gold teeth on him, but you wouldn't find that in a mind. Okay, they're not naturally occurring. No, not naturally going teeth. Interesting. Okay. Now we've got a clue. So where did they come from? A less fanciful supposition is that Albert Johnson, when he was known as Nelson. Was a dentist.

Well, honestly, that made more sense than some of the theories. They thought that he'd been seen with this other man and then turned up. He'd been seen with another man trapping alone. Arthur Nelson was traveling with a friend. Then Albert Johnson appears on his own. Had Albert Johnson, a.k.a. Arthur Nelson, killed the friend, kept the gold teeth. Yep. And then when the Mounties knocked on his door,

being like, oh my God, I'm wanted for murder. Shoot first asked questions later, type thing. Why, um, like if I murdered either of you guys, I'll be honest, I'm probably not taking your teeth with me. That's a bit gross. They leave. They are beautiful, but that's why we're teeth with me. Oh no. That's a bit gross, I have to. Oh. Look at these. They are beautiful, but that's why we're to leave them with you.

I think you can talk about it. Take them to the afterlife with you. Enjoy those, right? Oh, otherwise you have you mushed in the afterlife. Yeah. I just mushed for you. That's not fair. Just because I know what I say about teeth.

Can't take them with you. Can't take them with you, mate. Make them up for me. Can't take them with you. They also say, can't live with them. So it's very confusing. Yeah, it's a confusing. One of the more more, so that's one of the theories

is that he, like you said, just possibly was already on the run for another crime. He assumed that's what they used to say. And really they were like, no, mate, we just wanted to talk to you. Yeah. One of the more out there theories is that he was a hit man who was hiding out after a job.

Okay. This would explain why he was such an excellent shot. He was an amazing marksman and why he had so much cash on him. Right. Paid him cash. But apart from that, those are the most, the theories that tie that. Matt, just someone took a hit out on you and it was actually quite a cheap job. That'd be offensive, wouldn't it? Like how much to get off 50 bucks?

Yeah, honestly, yeah. Are you just pay for my tram? Drod and all through the rest. Yeah, so 350 should cover it. Well, there are the blacks. They've got you pinned down there like any last request and you're like just one question. How much are you getting paid for this? Just so I know. How would you like to know? 50, oh, come on.

Yeah, that'd be insulting. I'm worth more than that. I've got it. That's only half me bank faults worth. The trappers remains were exhumed by a forensic team and submitted for DNA analysis for the television documentary Hunt for the Mad Trapper, which aired in 2009. Oh, wow.

Which is available online, and I've watched all seven pixels that made up the upload. That's all. And you, oh my god, 2009, you think, oh, like you get, on Reddit, viral videos go all the time. Check out this HD footage from Japan, Tokyo Tokyo 1909. This is from 2009. Couldn't put it was very hard to make out. I kind of understood the gist of the program. Carrie Gower from myth merchant films who made the documentary said, we know his age,

which is between 30 and 40, and we're able to do to track where he was most likely raised from 12 or so on. We know that he was either from Midwestern, the USA, or from Northern Europe in particular, the Scandinavian countries. That's so different. That's so different. She doesn't know anything. We know their age between 30 and 40. That's a big range. We know where they were from, America or Europe, two different continents. No, they, she knows so much. She's narrowed it down, different earth, and we're confident they were alive at the time. Pretty confident. Pretty confident, but I will not,

I will not lock it in. It didn't narrow it down it. Basically, it ruled out. The only thing it ruled out was that many Canadians have come forward saying, I think I'm related to the mad trapper. I think he's Canadian. That's basically the only thing it ruled out. That's it. 45 minutes. In Canada there was a sort of a dead Pulitzer Society scene where everyone stood up on

that desk. I'm related to the mad trapper. No, I'm... Over the years hundreds of people wrote in to say that they knew that dead man really was and they mounted police investigated every tip off. Women claimed him as a husband, people claimed he was a father, a brother, a son, he was named as a murderer for Michigan, a World War I sniper and ex-provincial policeman, all these all these tip-offs. My favorite theory is in Alan Phillips article in the McLean's magazine. He says that he could have been quotes the blueberry kid and then gave no more context as

to what that means. Okay. And when I Googled a blueberry bearer kid, all that comes up is Violet Beauregard from Willie Wonka. Could it be? Well. Well. Maybe.

Yeah, probably. I am shocked to tell you that at the end of the day, the so-called mad Trapper of Rat River might have been just a dude that wanted to be left alone. It didn't lie being interrupted in the wilderness. And that's why I shot a police. But the truth is, we'll probably never know who he really was. That's right, episode 250 has been a mystery episode all along!

Oh! Oh, he bloody got it. Oh, gotcha, first it was Christmas, then it was New Year's, and now it's a mystery episode. Oh, you've done it all. Done it all, but it's a 250 episode. Oh, you've done it all. Done it all, 250. I forget how unsatisfying mysteries are. I know, I'm so sorry.

It is, he was an absolute badass who survived some unbelievable conditions and went on the run for longer than anyone humanly ever could. Wow. So it is an amazing story, but we probably will never know the real identity of the Mad Trapper of Ratt River. Dave, what a story. Well done. Thank you so much. I'm glad it finally got up.

I've took five attempts. I thought it was a cool story. Yeah, that's a pretty wild story. And yeah, unsatisfying and so confusing. Like, why? Why do that? But anyway, that's for him to decide. And he did. But the story ends here. Well, with that report done and dusted, that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show, which is of course our Patreon section. Yes. We thank the beautiful people that support the show at Petroon.com slash do go on part. We can get yourself a number of rewards we like to call them treasures.

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Without our oldest and dearest remember. And it's kind of it's kind of worked out nicely because the last couple of weeks he sort of put me in charge of doing the fact-quotal question. So, you know, it's sort of like I've had a bit of guidance. I've had some training with him, being my copilot, just sitting there helping me. And now he's like, spread your wings, little one, you can do it. Student has become, well, the professor. Yes. That makes sense.

I think so, yes. He's still a teacher, but I am a professor. I have tenure. I've never known what that means, but it means I can't get rid of you. That sucks. Why would you? That's a terrible system. I just want tenure so that I can just coast. Coast forever. Yeah, I think it's just like a guaranteed contract. That's dumb. Yeah. That's my thinking. Anyway, I'd prefer to be called professor for life. That's good. See, that's my thinking anyway. I'd prefer to be called professor for life. That's good See that makes more sense. Yeah, it's just about jazz jazz and up the language we do So shall we get stuck into some facts some quotes and some questions? Please, but I believe this section does actually have a jingle. Oh my god. I almost forgot let me just play it here for you

Fact quote or question Perfect, never forget the thing. Never forget the thing. So our first fact quote or question comes from Paul Mellow. Hi Paul. Paul has given himself the title. Oh my god, it's a very long title. Paul. Okay, so his title is Fellow of the Royal Society ofBOYS. Oh, a bad word for life. And then he says, just to add some context, this isn't related to the movie series, bad boys, but was linked to the comment about me being one of the recent... about me being one on the recent bonus episode.

I then realized it may sound like I was excluding any girls and I don't want it to be heard that way. As a feminist with a podcast, I'm sure Matt will have the final say, but if it ever did get read out, please point out that anyone can be a bad boy of the fictional society I made up. Also, Dave, I have downloaded some book treat episodes, so I may not be a bad boy after all. Keep up the great work, loving the content of the new web series to Cheers Paul. That was his title. Well, I mean, and you have to use that when you were dressing him. All you have to say all of that. Yeah it's rude of you don't. Paul honestly just send us a message mate.

But okay so Paul has given us a quote. Oh my god and then in his where he can write his written this is actually a quote followed by a question. Oh he's's found a loophole. Paul, you are taking the piss. The poll's taking the piss. Matt wouldn't say it, but I'll say it. That's right, but the feminist and the podcast isn't here. Because I have to read it all, and I'm tired and hungry. It says, this quote is one I refer to regularly in my job as an engineer. You can only make as well as you can measure.

You can only make as well as you can measure. You can only make as well as you can measure. That's by Sir Joseph Whitworth, creator of the British Standard Whitworth system, which became a standard for screw threads. My question is have you ever made anything that you could measure and did it turn out well? I think it's like a practical thing. I mean, absolutely not. No, I can't say it, but it's been measured by someone else. And even then, if I can avoid building it and handball that to someone else, I absolutely

will. Yeah. Last time we were doing live streams, I was moving house and we moved house on the Saturday and I was like, oh, I'm going to go to work. But you get started on the flat pack then, okay? A rod, a roo, kind of hoping that it would all be done because there was like four things that needed to be built. Right. I don't work, but you get started on the flat pack then, okay? Or odd, who wrote? Kind of hoping that it would all be done, because there was like four things that needed to be built.

Right. Half of one was done when I got back. And he'd have to call my dad for help. So there's two people working on half of one thing. Wow. So. Is it all done now? It's all done now.

But, you know, I'm always always adding I'm always recreating. Yeah Paul I'm afraid that I am probably the least practical person you could ever meet. That is true. I cut myself when I'm hanging out the washing you know. Yeah and you got very you got kid pigs. Yeah it's a pigs for babies. Actually my theory is if it's if it's a child proof and I can get through it, it's not really child proof. Yeah, agreed. That's how we test. So thank you very much to Paul, we appreciate your... Thanks Paul, but we don't do much. We don't do much measuring here. Yes. So I love the guy that came up with a measuring system that guy, Wittner, what his name is,

is like, yeah, and I can only do it as long as you can measure. It's like, I think you're trying to sell something, yeah. And that's how you measure stuff in your system. Yeah. And it worked. Yeah. So my dad always says measure twice, cut ones. That sort of thing.

But, you know, he's a practical man. And my brother is a carpenter. Like, there's just, I've been surrounded by people who love that shit. So I let them have fun with that. So you didn't pick it, because I would have thought that maybe you'd pick it up, but you don't get any of that.

No. And also, my parents used to sort of try to get me to help out in the garden. And I would, I think I was a pretty good teenager. Like I was respectful and you know, there was no tantrums or anything, but, and I'd help wherever I could, but if it was gardening, I'd be like,

no, just, no. Just actively no. And now yesterday, I potted some new flowers into little pots on my balcony, I was sending mum pictures. I was like, what's happened to me? So who knows, maybe I'll take a woodwork. Yeah, you'll be woodworking this time next week.

Who knows? And X-Fact Query, a question comes from and they've put their pronunciation of their name in here, which I love. Appreciate it. Joe Fleshmen. Okay. I hope I got that right based on your phonetic spelling out for me there, Joe. Fleshmen.

Joe is giving himself a title of, if possible, it's so sweet. I'd like to give the title to my son, Soran, who will be the official junior executive small child of the podcast. Welcome aboard. You are our junior executive small child. We also have a senior executive small child just to be clear. Absolutely, it's just a slightly bigger child. It could be smaller physically, but they're like a bigger personality. Yeah, exactly. Bigger leadership. They are just, they really need to shut up.

And Joe has given us a quote and the quote is if every pork chop were perfect we wouldn't have hot dogs. So I guess I mean you know how can we extrapolate that if you're a bit shit that's alright. We wouldn't have hot dogs. Is it a quite attributed to someone? Yes, that is a quote from Greg Universe. What a name. I trust him. Do you? That's good. I don't know who it is.

I'll look him up. Yeah, you have to look it up. Greg Universe. Sorry, it's going up here. Is Greg Universe a real person? No, it is a cartoon character it looks like. Greg Universe is the father of Steven Universe. I don't know what that means.

It's stevenuniverse.fandom.com, so I think Stephen Universe is the thing. Ah cool, there you go. Never heard of that, there you go. Well, it's a good quote though. That is nice. Our next fact-quare to question comes from Brielle Strobel. Brielle. Brielle Strobel. I like it. Brielle's given herself a title of Mrs. Mothman. Oh, okay. Fantastic. Melady. And it's given us a fact. Glad you finally put a ring on it. Here is the fact. If I told you the, so it's just so. If I told you the meeting scheduled at noon has been moved forward two hours, what time is the meeting?

It's been moved forward two hours. Forward two hours. Yeah. I would say two o'clock. It's been moved forward. So it's earlier, so it's ten o'clock. Ten o'clock, yes. I think this is what a conundrum. Well, if you said 2 p.m. then you perceive time as moving towards you or the ego moving perspective,

which means you see time as though you are moving through it. If you said 10 a.m. then you have the time moving perspective in which you see yourself as stagnant and time just moves without you. This is called fictive motion, if you need more clarification. There you go. Move forward. I can understand, it doesn't make sense. 10 o'clock probably is the actual answer. Yeah, but you asked the thinking of like,

okay, well, 12, one, two, yeah. Wow. That's very interesting. It is, yeah. Cool that we had two different answers too. Yeah. Rather than us both being like, yeah, yeah, obviously. Next question, please. And finally, our final fact-quad equation for today comes from Sophie Schutter. Hello, Sophie Schutter. Sophie's giving us off the title of Head of Office Administration.

So if he's given us off the title of head of office administration Cicemical and swaps division Oh, that would be that because they're doing the patreon snack swap. Oh, yes, of course That makes I was just the the office thing made me threw me off of it there because I was thinking about office And I knew Sophia done that but for some reason the swap just threw me off there Yes, so a fantastic initiative that Sophie is absolutely spearheaded without any involvement from us. No. So we've got to give you 1 million percent of the credit

is on our Patreon group. She started an international snack swap. So the people that I'm members of our Patreon group get to send snacks to people in other countries that you might get there, but not here. Yeah, it's been really nice, especially in isolation, you know, just to get a little care package. She will be uploading the photos of some of the stuff is wild.

Yeah. Because you know, we get, it's stuff like we have Vets you might here in barbecue shapes, but you might not have that in Finland. Exactly, yes. Yeah, so it's really, I think it's such a great idea. I never would have thought of it. And thank you so much for doing it. One of my friend Steph is a Patreon and she a picture got uploaded of what she sent.

Tim Thames, Veggie Mike Shapes. And a few other amazing things and I messaged her, I was like, mate, well done. She goes, oh, you couldn't even see that I added Wiz Fizz as well. I was like, yes! Then we had a long discussion about how much we love whizz-fizz,

which is just a little bag of sherbet, really. Yeah, tiny spoon. Tiny, tiny, tiny spoon. Love the spoon. God, I think I might pick up some whizz-fizz on the way. Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna keep you going. Yeah, yes. Oh my God, hold on.

It's got a nice, good taste. Um, my saipers give us a question. She's asked, what was your favorite hobby as a kid? Favorite hobby? I definitely went through the range of sports, which is funny because I wasn't an athletic kid, but I did swimming and a little bit of basketball, cricket, tennis.

That was the one that I did the longest, probably struck with that. Stuck with that. And then in early high school, I would say, you could say it was your kid then, that music was the big hobby. Yeah, of course. Playing my basic guitar. For you, for sure.

My god, I was a froth over it. Yeah, that's fair. I guess I'm sort of the same. I mean, I started playing basketball when I was seven because my older brother played, so I just copied everything he did. So I mean, I played until earlier this year when the season got cut down because of COVID-19. So I've always played basketball.

Have you stopped for a long period of time in that time? Here and there, like a couple of years maybe. A couple of years is probably the longest break. It's right that you kept it up, I love it. Because I miss it when I don't play it. I really enjoy it. It's a lot of fun. And I think just having done it since I was a kid, it feels, it feels very familiar.

There's something kind of comforting about that. Like, I know what's going on. I know how to do everything. Like, starting a new sport a bit later, I don't think it's something I'd be very good at because I'm like, I don't get all the rules. Yeah, what are we doing here? Yeah. Do you enjoy watching basketball?

I don't watch a lot of basketball, but I do, yeah, I do like it. It can be kind of, it depends. Sometimes it can be kind of boring to watch because it's just like past, past goal. It's so up and down, I know. I want into the other. Yeah, because it's so fast. But I like watching highlights of it, because you can see all the cool moves and stuff.

My other main hobby as a kid was, I don't know if you ever did this, was throwing rocks into rivers. I loved that. I could stay there for honestly three hours and just be like, throw this on an embankment and just throw a terrible soil erosion. But I just love the splash.

Yes, splash is fun. So much fun. And we would ride our bikes around and we had roller blades and we would set up like little ramps. Because we lived in a court, a cul-de-sale. Oh, that's fun. No cars and so not many cars coming and going. So we had the road to ourselves.

So yeah, we'd set up little ramps and jump off them and it felt massive, but it probably was like, it was like a small plank of wood, and I was like, whoa, look at it go. And then yes, high school was music for me as well, I guess, still sport, but that's when I was in a band for a bit. So much fun.

Yeah. My aunt, in terms of fads, which you could say is a hobby, with her all those, you know, all the TV shows, all the stuff that everyone, but the number one one of my life was, of course, Pokemon cards. Oh, yeah, okay. I didn't get so into the cards. I liked, I had a Pokemon game on my Game Boy, which I liked. The Red or a Blue. I had Red. Oh, I had Blue. Yeah, nice. Such, such fun. And I did like that. And I've, I've thought about getting it on the switch and you've been playing it a lot on the switch recently. Yeah, so I got the one, so there's Pokemon Sword and Shield, which is the new, new updated one, which has like all the six

million new Pokemon that I don't really know. But the one that I got was Pokemon Let's Go Picketue. Yep. Because it is essentially that red or blue or Pokemon Yellow remade just with better graphics on a big screen. And so I know all the Pokemon, I remember them all. I remember the gym badges and all that stuff that you get. So I just beat it. I recently beat it. Yes! Good job. So much fun. I've thought about getting it again, but I don't know if I'll still enjoy it.

Maybe the nostalgia, I'm not sure. But yeah, I hope that answers the questions. That's a hobbies. Yeah. From as, when we were children, I don't really have hobbies anymore. Podcasting. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, well, it started as a hobby. Yeah.

Now that's kind of a job. I used to play ukulele a bit, now I haven't played for ages. It's somewhere in my house. Hmm, I need a hobby. Um, but yeah, anyway, so that's,, so that's our fact-quoidle question section which brings us to everyone's other favorite part of the show, which is of course the Patreon shout-outs. That's right, these people are supportive of the show

and one of the rewards is we shout-out to them and we usually come up with a game, just what you most often do. Yeah. Time back to the mad Trapper of Rat River. I was kind of thinking of like where they'd hide out. Oh, okay, no, that's good. Is that good? Yeah, where they'd hide out, okay. So it was at a location.

Yeah. Okay. I don't think they're shooting any cops. Okay. They're just hiding out for a bit. Maybe they even just, you know, need a bit of a break You know what I mean? I'm sure So without Matt here, maybe we'll do four each. What do you reckon? Let's get through a few? Do you want me to kick things up? Please I would love to thank from London in great Britain. Have you heard of London? I've heard of it. I couldn't point to it We'd love to thank James Edwards. Thank you so much. James Edwards. James is a supporter of the show who has come to our live shows before

and has a delightful life. Oh, the life. I thought this might be you James. Yeah, that's James. So thank you James. And I would also love to thank you. We're going to say where he's hiding out. Oh, yeah. James, where he's hiding out. Oh yeah.

James, where is he hiding? I'm like, no, I'm done. To be honest, James, it is difficult for you to hide with that laugh. So it has to be a very unfunny place. He's hiding in the chain rooms at a big W. Oh, fantastic, which is a quite cheap chain of department stores here. Yeah fantastic for a bargain. Yeah. Love the big W. And to hide. And you're in the

the change room. How long has it been in there? Um two months. Wow that's amazing. Yeah. I mean it's thanks because they do sell food too so you could have just got supplies. Yeah you just sneaks out at night. Nobody, I mean, it's poor work, I think, from the people working there who haven't cleaned the change room. I'm in a couple of times people have knocked on and said, you're okay in there? Man, we help. I'm alright.

I want to thanks, just change your voice a bit, so they don't think it's the same person in there. How long? I find, thank God. How long could you be in there? And how many times could they say, you okay, before they bust down the door? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe like when they're closing surely.

Sorry, you've got to go. No, I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm alright. Sorry, we're actually closed. I'm alright. I'm alright. Thank you. Now it's okay. Just try it on the other part. No, I've got all the socks on. I need things. Wait, we're going to call the police. Not at all. Oh, good. Thank you. What a great place to have. Thank you to James. I would also love to thank from Berlin.

Love to thank Clara Louise Hilda Brand. Fantastic. Great to have. Alistair from Deutschland. Yes. So good. Where would Clara be hiding? She's hiding in plain sight. Oh yeah. At the casino. Yes, you lose track of time in there. Exactly, if I wait here a week, if I've been here three years, I don't know.

There's no windows here, there's no clocks. Terrible place to work, by the way. Have you worked? No, I've just recently met someone who works at the casino just recently met someone who works at the casino and is only about 22 years old and said several sexual harassment cases. Oh wow. She's already lodged. Oh wow. It's a bad place.

Mike Renaissance, where of course not naming A casino, this is somewhere in the world. We don't know where this casino is. I nearly worked at A casino. When I was about 22, I got offered a job when I was doing a lot of trivia hosting. I could have been the bingo caller. Oh my God.

But I was going away, and I said, oh, can I just start to excited this and now you have to start straight away or not at all. And I was like, this doesn't make any sense. That's so dumb. So I just, and to be honest, from what you've just said, I don't know where this casino is, let's assume it's somewhere in the Northern hemisphere.

Yeah. Maybe. All the Southern hemisphere, we don't know.'t know maybe that wouldn't have been a good job But you're right just in terms of I don't think it would be that super fun to work at because it is that dark They're weird places with lights Not but no natural light. Yeah, it's not good a real fresh air. Yeah, but I mean Clara's fine Yeah, she's hiding out there. She's hiding out there And you know like she's seeing shows and stuff that I have on. Yeah, and here's a cinema.

Like she's not in the actual gambling section the whole time. Maybe only goes in there to get the free drinks and food if you're a high rolling that I've said you a bit. Yes, and she is. And they're like, well, you've been here for three weeks. You've probably lost a lot of money here, but she hasn't. Hasn't at all. She's fine.

She's just taken that free food and wandering off seeing another show. She's a genius. Amazing. She's fine. She's just taken that free food and wandering off seeing another show. She's a genius. Amazing. Thank you Clara. I'd also love to thank a little closer to home this time from Carnegie here in Victoria. Lawrence Martin. Lawrence Martin. I love the name Lawrence. Lawrence is good isn't it? Great name. Lawrence is hiding in a 7-11. Oh wow, okay. So many, but it's like a 7-11 that is temporarily closed for renovations. Renovations haven't started yet, so he's alone in there with all the food. Oh wow, is this lurping machine on?

Uh, you best believe it's on. Oh, that's great. And he can just top up whatever flavor he wants. And it's not all bad food in there, know there's pasties crackers and hummus sandwiches some sort of musely bar maybe but you're egg and I have a yeah I've trouble bar here in there yum that would be great definitely hungry yeah definitely hungry so he's hiding out in the leftovers at my house so I'm gonna eat up to this oh man I'm gonna go home and have a pizza that is probably my plan for tonight. So when you're listening to this, I ate pizza four days ago.

Oh, yum. Little bit of sizzle for you. Oh, I love pizza. You're gonna get a margarita. Probably, yes. You're always gonna margarita. I do, I love it. You can't be the classic.

Do you get a couple of pizzas? Cause you're feeding two people, I assume. Absolutely, yes. Do you do a bit of a share? No. Okay. This is how we knew we were right for each other. We went, when the first time we went to the movies, we sort of had a discussion about sharing

popcorn or not sharing popcorn. We both said we'd prefer our own popcorn. And it's the same with pizzas. Wow. Get our own pizzas. So that we don't share, I mean, he just demolishes pizza and he hates meat. So he will usually have the meat pizza which I like. Yeah, okay, that definitely does. And I never quite finished mine. So yes, he definitely has one or two pieces of mine as

well. Oh, okay, because I love the getting two different pizzas pizzas. Yeah. And then 95% of the one. Yeah. And then the one slice, we have a swap. Yeah, love that swap one. You swap ones. Yeah. So you're just going to a 5% of the one. Yeah. And then the one slice, we have a swap. Yeah, I love that. Swap one. Swap one, yes. So you're just going to a little bit of a trade because you've picked your favorite. Exactly. So I want to eat it.

You want to eat all of it. But then also you're like, well, that does look pretty good. I'll have it a little bit. We went to a new pizza place the other day, which I had had with some friends before. And I forgot, I knew the pizzas were big, but they are insanely big. The box was like this big, they're like,

I'm not, I just can't even hold out our arms big enough for this box. It's huge. I could get in the box. We had, we got one pizza and then, Aiden was like, let's get a heart, you could buy a half as well. So we got a half in a different flavor

and we did not get through one entire pizza. It was insanely big and then you get like garlic knots as well. It was just heaven. Where is this place? It sells pizza. It's a New Zealand chain. They've opened in Melbourne as well and it's very good. It's really big. It's fucking huge. Love it. Anyway, sorry to derail there but I'm very hungry. Finally, I would love to thank from Perth in Scotland. Oh, it was a Perth there. Yes, I mean, it's always the chance to win named after their Perth. Yeah, that's right, yeah.

There's a lot of them. There's like, there's another, is there another Melbourne? There's definitely another Victoria. There's the Melbourne Flora. Oh, yeah, no more Flora, I think you. I think this is their Victorian Canada, probably. Anyway, from Perth in Scotland,

I would love to thank Megan Bain. Megan Bain. Megan Bain. Megan Bain is, Bain. Megan Bain is of course hiding out on a golf course. Yeah, of course. Open. But it's nice weather. Oh, you of course sadly probably none it's got one. No, it's fine. It's a lovely Barney day and she's sunbaking on the sand banks. There you go. That's quite nice. And I'm sure Megan would love to hear this fact-washy sunbaking. Perth was named after the birthplace of Sir George Murray who was British Secretary of the State for the Colonies when the city in Western Australia was founded in 1829. Ah cool. So there you go. There you go. We love it. We love it. Do you want to thank some people? I would love to thank some people if I can click the right tab on my computer.

That's why I panicked before I was like, and the next person was just because I was trying to get back to the right spot. All right. Well, let me just say that our next name comes all the way from Horton Norway. Horton in Vestfold, Norway. I would like to thank Henrik T. Wow. Horton in vest fold, Norway. I would like to thank Henrik T. Peterson. Oh. That's a fantastic Norwegian name.

That's so good. I love a middle initial. And T is a good one. Henrik T. Peterson. Henrik Ibsen, of course, one of the most famous Norwegians in history. Let's be honest. Henrik T. Peterson, thank you so much for your support from Norway. And where is he hiding out, Jess?

He's hiding out in... A love... Disneyland. Oh, I love it. He's hiding out in Disneyland. That's another great place to hide out. Yeah, he could be there for ages. Not see at all.

Yeah, as long as he's not trapped in the small world after all part. Yeah, that's haunting. You don't be hiding there. But you know, look for you. Again, seeing shows, going on some rides, plenty of food, I'll show you. Lots of foods. Big turkey legs, do you know that that's a big thing? Oh, yeah. Not for me, thanks. I quite like turkey, but I don't know about munching it just on a stick, but. Yeah, a stick. I would like to thank now from Roeston in England. Another fantastic name, they're all fantastic.

It's Florence Jones. Oh, that's a beautiful name. Florent. Oh, yeah. Florence Jones, sorry Florence, you've probably got that a lot and you probably don't like it that much. So, apologies, but it just came out of me. It's flowed, you could say.

Shut up, I just stopped talking. What about in Sons? Second part. No flow Joe is better. See, there are bad options too. Where's Florence hiding? She's hiding out on the moon. Oh my God, that's not a great hiding spot. How are you going to get back when you're ready to? That's the problem, she has been there. She's stuck. Since the late 1960s. Oh my god. Is she got food? Yeah. Like what

you can't hunt, can she? On the moon. No, that's right. Luckily there's a lot of those toothpaste that are actually meals somehow. Yes. And obviously moon cheese. Well, yes, of course. She's got countless crackers and a lot of moon cheese. Yum. Yum. Good for protein. Thank you so much Florence Jones. I would like to thank now we're going back up to Scotland to Aberdeen. Aberdeen. Fantastic words said in that voice but still. Abercrack. Andrew McCloud. Andrew McCloud. That's a Scottish name. Yeah that certainly is is. And David Clude from Aberdeen. Aberdeen's from there. Aberdeen.

Well, I'm not doing well, I like. I think that he is a... He's hiding out on the set of Taggart. Ah! And, but like, as an extra. Yeah, exactly, but he's in the background of every shot. Every shot. The director's a bit like, what's going on?

Why is this guy always there? I mean, this is just like someone's at home in their bedroom alone now, and he's just in the background. And he's like, now I'm in to be here, they're like, well, he's actually pretty authentic. He's been to be here, I guess. Yeah. Murdered her.

Thank you so much, I'm in to you. And I would also like to thank now from Rainallsburg, Ohio. Ooh. I would like to thank Jared Schaefer. Jared Schaefer is hiding out in a big cup. How big is the cup? Very big. Wow. It's a very big cup.

Like a drinking cup? I just looked at this framed picture I have, which is a tea cup that says ambition on it. Like Dolly Partons pour myself a cup of ambition. Oh, now I get it, and I also love that you were so ambitious. For, or Jared, you're a big cup. But I was like, come on, Jess, you can do this.

And I looked at that. There is like a drink, a big drink, one of those big cups I give you at the cinemas. There's one of those on my desk and it's for men in black, international. So I did not see. It was when I went to see Frozen 2. All right, big got your own popcorn, of course.

Yeah, of course. Beck knows the rules, that's what I went to see with. And then I looked to the left and there was a cup of ambition. So sorry, Jared, but you're hiding out in a cup of ambition. So sorry, Jared, but you're hiding out in a very big cup. Is there anything in the cup with him? He's made himself quite a little home. Oh wow. It's quite nice in there. Right. But it's a big cup. So big. It's actually a house just in the shape of a cup. You know, like the old lady lived in a boot kind of thing. Yeah. It's just like a cup shaped house.

Do you still enter from the top? Yes. If it kind of thing. Yeah, it's just like a cup shaped hair. He's still enter from the top Yes, if it slides you have to like pull yourself in right, but if it rains will you drown? Yes Luckily he lives in a very dry place. Thank goodness good luck. He's yet to drown Yet to drown Keep his face. Let us know when you drown Thank you so much to everyone. Yeah, the dang words are, I'm drowning.

Let you go on, Bob. Thanks everyone that supports the show. You make the show possible and we really appreciate you. We really do. And the only thing that we have left to do, if I remember incorrectly, is to thank, or to induct some people into the trip ditch club. That's right. I guess why you're checking if anyone's coming in just,

because it's not every week, but people who've been supporting the show on the shout-out level for three years continuously without breaking off. To thank them again, we'd like to induct them into an exclusive little club where there's some more derves that will be served, some live music, and once you're in, I mean, if you wanna say you can stay for life, it's a life, life induction. You can hide out there. Oh, that's a great place to hide out. Yeah, because it's got everything.

It's like the menu changes every week. And it's so hidden, it doesn't appear on Google Maps. Yeah, and really famous musicians perform there. And it's just like an open bar and there's sleeping pods. It honestly has everything you need. So I don't know why you're all complaining about this. Yeah, oh, come on. Come on.

So we do have some induct days, actually. I think we've got three this way. And will there be eating anything special? Yes, they'll be eating. I've started to relate it back to today's topic, but I don't like what was you trapping? Anything for furry stuff. Of course, for the fur.

So I don't wanna think about that. So rats on a stick. No, only nice foods. Pizza, we were just talking about pizza a lot. Oh yeah, I'm gonna get it in. Pizzas, there's actually like a pizza chef there, so you can build your own pizza. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna get it in. Pizzas, there's actually a pizza chef there, so you can build your own pizza. Oh, I love that, build your own pizza pie.

Yeah, and it's pretty good. And they've got all types of like sources and drizzles and stuff, that's my favorite thing is that. So, at a pesto drizzle to my margarita pizza. Oh, okay, you pimping your margarita, that's good. Yeah, I love to pimping pizza. So yeah, we've got pizza chef and then drinks wise. What goes well with a pizza?

Okay, come on, Jeff. What goes well with a pizza? I think that... Like beer or cider goes well with pizza? Yeah, beer and cider's nice, yeah. Love cider. What about, do we have a home brew at the bar? Yeah.

You can quite nice. Yeah, nice little home brew. It's a nice one though. Matt's in charge of that. Yeah, absolutely. Let's let him know Yeah, yeah, let him know. Sort of that a beer would you and performing live this week? We are very very happy to have the original Cast from the Aladdin animated film. Oh my god Are they doing the songs? They are yeah,. None of the who's like dancey kind of bangers. Prince Ali, glorious team. Yeah. So a bit of fun. Ali, that's fun. So yeah. It's fun to do with your mouth. So a lot of fun. And then Robin Williams is

doing a bit of stand-up in between as well. It's an impression an impression, you know, making fun of people, but not too mainly. Yeah, yeah, it's like every, it's all in good fun. It's all everyone's going, it's just Robin doing his thing. Yeah, yeah, I'm not offended by it. I'm laughing along, even though he's picking on me. Yeah, that's right. Oh my god, how does he know me so well? Perfect amount of, of Maine there. So this week, yes, we have three people joining us in the TripDitch Club. First of all, from a Riverview, Florida, Christian Good Year. Oh, it's a good year now, you're here.

I forgot. This is something you do, and I love it. Also from what's M.O. Oh, I wish Matt was here because he's been memorized. Is it Missouri? And is it St. Louis or St. Louis? Louis. Because we've had this argument before. It is Missouri. It is Missouri, and it is St. Louis or St. Louis? Louis. Because we've only had this argument before.

It is Missouri. It is Missouri and it is St. Louis. I'd love to thank Cody Jenkins. Jenkins? Welcome. I'm just saying welcome. All right. I'm not jumping in.

This is your baby. Cody. Cody. Well. What's the best name again on play? Cody. Cody, well. Cody, I barely even know him. That's good stuff.

It's not fun, it's not so fun. And also, what? Cody's my Brody. Also, Jody, I us at the TripTitch Club, what's GA? Jorja? Probably from Swanee, said that wrong, in Georgia, Scotty Young. Young, the night is young now you're here to get us going! So thank you so much to Christian, Cody and Scotty. Welcome, please make yourself at home.

Put your feet up. I think if your shoes aren't dirty, please. We are trying to keep the furniture nice. Come on, I mean, we have like fantastic furniture in here. Yeah, I mean, you're not animals. Thank you so much. There'll be some more people next week as well, by the looks of it, little sisil.

Oh, fantastic. I'll have to start studying their names and I'll go on rhymes zone.com Is that a thing? Do you remember that I don't think it is anymore? You're just saying you type in a word and I'll just give you the like the the words that rhyme with it Wow and it was but it looked like it was made and it probably was It's on there rhymes and calm it look like it was made in the early 2000s. That's good. So if I typed in Cody, for example, which I struggled with a little bit before, said Brody, which was very good. My Brody, uh, depotie, a moody,

toady, melody, four syllables, little rody. Melody, my little rody, got. My little rowdy. When you said my low D, was that melody? Yes, but with an eye on the end. Okay. A female given name apparently. Oh, but it must be melody, but that doesn't run with Cody. No, it doesn't.

See, rhymesown.com, fantastic place, a constant source of inspiration in my life. Is that everything we have to do? That's all of it, isn't it? That's everything. Thank you so much for listening to this episode. Get in contact at dogoonpod.com, but I guess for the 250th time, I'm just going to say, thank you so much for listening to the show. We never really thought it would probably go this long, to be honest. No.

Just because we didn't plan, we didn't, not, that sounds a bit more, but I guess that we didn't think it was gonna fail. We just didn't really think about it. It was just something to do for fun. Yeah, exactly. It was just, he exactly right. It was something for fun

and then it sort of has morphed into something, a whole lot bigger, and that we are still baffled by every day. Yes, but still having fun doing it, thank goodness for that. Absolutely, yeah. So yeah, hopefully he's to 250 more. Yeah.

See how we bloody hit on. Yeah, let's go episode at a time now and see how we go. Let's heast to one more next week. That's nice. That's nice. So that every week. So, yeah, thanks so much for listening.

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