Two In The Think Tank - 253 - Woodstock

Episode Date: August 26, 2020

In 1969, some of the most iconic acts of the 1960s performed at Woodstock for four days of peace love and music. Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, The Who, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Santana and many mor...e took to the stage. But despite going down in history as one of the greatest festivals of all time, Woodstock was almost an unmitigated disaster. Last minute venue changes, bad weather, no security and a lack of food... combined with hundreds of thousands of extra people showing up, it really is a miracle it went ahead at all.Buy tickets to our streamed shows (there are 8 available, all with exclusive extra sections): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoonSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodCheck out our web series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2TuMQ31VXvqqEus9Bo6FZW-dDY5ukEuh Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comCheck out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbWRIxsjhmQ&t=911shttps://allthatsinteresting.com/woodstock-festival-1969https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstockhttps://www.vulture.com/2018/10/the-whos-roger-daltrey-had-the-worst-time-at-woodstock.html

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Starting point is 00:02:09 Potential savings will vary, discounts not available in all safe and situations. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Get out of your little cheeky bugger, you know, everybody all right? How's your father? Oh, that's great. How's your dad? I haven't spoken for a while actually, to be honest. I spoke to Mum the other day and I said, how's dad? She said he was a sleepiness chair, so I think he's fine.
Starting point is 00:02:55 He's still there. Matt, how's your dad? Easy on pretty well, haven't spoken to him super recently, but last time I did, he was going pretty well. Father's Day coming up though. I've come time, I think. Yeah. I don't know when exactly, but it's coming up pretty soon
Starting point is 00:03:10 because I'm seeing ads online. I've been seeing ads for ages, and I was like, shit, it must be really soon, and it's not till September. And I was like, I don't care, my birthday's first. Dad has to come to me first. Imagine if you were birthday was a national holiday, then your birthday ads would have started ages ago.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Yeah, that would have been good. Hopefully one day. Actually, the day this comes out, it is my birthday. So today is a national holiday. What if you do it if you're at work, walk out that door. If anyone gets fired for not turning up to work on Jess's birthday, their boss is a bum. Absolute bum. Yeah, and you should take them to court because that's fucked up, hey.
Starting point is 00:03:52 That is fucked up. Jess, as it is your special day, do you want to do the honours of explaining how this show works? You'll let me on this my special day? Once a year. Yay! Okay, I'm going to take an hour and a half to do this. So, each week, one of the three of us, Matt, Dave or me, Jess, the special birthday girl,
Starting point is 00:04:15 take it in turns to research a topic usually suggested by our listeners and we research and we read and we watch stuff and we write up a nice little report and we bring it back to the other two. Who you would think would respectfully sit back and listen and learn. But they don't. They interrupt a lot and we have a lot of fun along the way. But really, at the end of the day, it's all about friendship. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Pre-times. Is that all right? Yeah. Bit much. I haven't had much sleep. No, no, that was just the right amount on this special day And this also a special day. So who's doing it this week Jess? Dave is in charge this week and we usually get on to topic with a question
Starting point is 00:04:56 I have a question for Dave before he asks his question question to Dave is are there any birthdays in this? Is anyone born? Yeah, yeah, yeah, born to be alive. Yeah, all right. That's cool. It's about the band that sang that song, which does not come to mind. Hey, Dave, I've got a quick question for you. It's like being a little 29 year old. Hey, little 29 year old. When you get to your 30s like us, you'll understand what it's really like to be a grown-up. But for now, you're just a little baby boy.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Obviously, Jess is in her 30s now. I'm in my 330s. Yes, but you look like you're in your 130s. If I can be so bold. I think she's so much. That's very kind. Dave, of course, we have to wait an entire 48 hours for you to catch up with us.
Starting point is 00:05:50 The longest 48 hours of my entire life. You look so useful. Anyway, what's your question to get us on a topic this week, David? All right, my question for both of you is what music festival was listed by Rolling Stone magazine as number 19 of the 50 moments that changed the history of rock and roll. It is indeed Woodstock, Matt has jumped in early there. Jess was waiting patiently,
Starting point is 00:06:16 so I'm gonna give her a point to penalize you. Yes. Also, I was gonna do like Joe Gance's first, Matt, but yeah, obviously it was Woodstock, but I was going to be like Falls Festival, you know. Oh, that Falls Festival, very good festival. Great festival. I haven't been to it in a long time, but it was pretty fun the year I was there.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Pennywise played. Oh, that's fun. Yep, that was very good. So Woodstock, you do your report on Woodstock? I am doing a report on Woodstock 1969. So 90s. 90s. Basically, I put up three very famous music festivals or music concerts up into the
Starting point is 00:06:57 Patreon voters and they overwhelmingly voted for Woodstock. Awesome. It's been suggested by a few people this one, so thanks to Aaron Grinberg, Josh Benefield, Holly G, Ellibert, Antonia, Lindsay Conway, and Charlie Heffanon. Ah, nice one. I've got to say, I mean, obviously I know what Woodstock is, but I think it's just one of those things that you hear about so much. I don't think I've done a lot of like reading or research about it to actually know any nitty gritty details. I'm just like, yes, it was a big music festival in 1969 and that's it.
Starting point is 00:07:33 So this is exciting. Yeah, it's funny just it's one of those things that I also felt like, you know, everyone knows about Woodstock, but then, and even looking into it, there's a lot of articles that talk about how important it is, but then there are only about three paragraphs longer that didn't have too much detail. They have an even bothered recess. Oh yeah, it's really important. Anyway. It's big. We all know that. We all know it was huge. Big cultural movement. And yeah, it's very, uh, God, wish I was there. Yeah, basically. The Landrix was there. They mentioned someone was nude. Yeah, basically, I mean, Hendrix was there. Someone was nude. Yeah, they mentioned, what a time.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Remember that mud. Ah, a fire. Basically, and then they also go, ah, it was 45 years ago today. Anyway, like that's about it. Yeah. But I did find a bunch of great articles in the end. So they're all linked in the description
Starting point is 00:08:17 of this episode if you want to read up more in three-paragraph, little butt-sized pieces. I love that, actually. Love that. Well, let me take you back to the 1960s, which was a turbulent time for America. JFK was shot in 1963. America's military involvement with the Vietnam War increased, and generational social tensions developed around humans' sexuality, women's rights, most of authority and experimentation with psychoactive drugs. Ooh, as the resident drugie.
Starting point is 00:08:48 So reputation my parents would not be happy with even in joke form. What's your favourite psychoactive drug? Ah, loveable, how can you choose Sophie's choice of drugs? What a phrase. I don't know if I could name one. Is LSD? That was actually what Sophie's choice was about. She was going out on a bender and she was only allowed to pick one of her two favorite
Starting point is 00:09:16 drugs. Oh, man. We've all been there. It was a real Sophie's choice. What an emotional film. The decades saw the rise in a largely youth-based counterculture that celebrated experimentation, modern incarnations of behemianism, and the rise of the hippie
Starting point is 00:09:33 and other alternative lifestyles. One of the most iconic events of the whole era occurred in the last month of the last summer of the swinging 60s. But despite its enduring name and rock and roll legacy, it was almost an unmitigated disaster. Let's talk Woodstock baby. Yes, I love unmitigated disasters, almost.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Almost, that's right. I bet there were some Woodstock babies as well. Oh yeah. Yeah, almost definitely. Yeah. It was his own little baby boom. It looks nice. This is that nice. And I'm not sure because it was almost a disaster, if you categorize this
Starting point is 00:10:12 with some of my disaster, it says that I've done over the years. Chernobyl, mountain hellens, woodstock. You know, the big throw. Yeah. So the festival itself was the brainchild and 60s hippies love child, if you will, of four men in their 20s. Michael Lang, Arty Cornfeld, Joel Rosemann and John P. Roberts. That's a man in your 20s. You're perfectly placed to sort of get into their heads. Yeah, I don't remember what it's like to be in my 20s anymore anymore, but thank God you're here doing a report day, but you can really relate. I just snuck it in. Yeah. The last summer of the last month of my 29. Of the four of those. I don't know anything about their personalities yet, but just based on names, I think I like Arty the most. Oh yeah. Arty, you asked, not that there has to be a favorite, but that's
Starting point is 00:11:05 the name that really stuck out. So real Sophie's choice of favorite names. Did you take Arnie? Did you take John? Did you take Joel? Do you take the other one? John. They're two John's. Just knows Michael. Sorry, Michael Lang. So Michael Lang was 25 and had experienced promoting festivals in the Miami area. Come on, culminating in the successful 1968 Miami pop festival, where headline has included Chuck Berry and the Jimmy Hendrix experience. Oh wow. Wow, imagine maybe that festival,
Starting point is 00:11:36 Jimmy Hendrix and Chuck Berry, holy shit. That's crazy. And that guy's only 25, so he's got the experience putting on the stuff. Wow. Arty Cornfeld, Jess's favorite, was a young... My face. I love him.
Starting point is 00:11:48 He was a young songwriter who had written over 75 songs that charted on the Billboard charts, and was the youngest vice president at Capitol Records ever. Woo! Also in his 20s. Any of his songs in particular that we would know? Not to my knowledge. Right. He'd written 75, did you say?
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yes, 75 hit songs and then he became part of Capitol Records. So this is Artie or is this his land? So that's Artie. So Michael Lang's the Miami Pup Guy, Artie Cornfels, the Capitol Records guy, who record in an interview the first time he met Michael Lang is the Miami Festival organiser.
Starting point is 00:12:24 He goes, I was standing on my desk, smoking a little hash. It's okay, I say that. That's what I thought. I was like, I said that. I mean, they could just not ride it. Is it a written interview? Or a video? 25th of years later.
Starting point is 00:12:40 It's okay, I say that. 994 interview. They became friends that year in 1969 and discussed building a recording studio in the woods somewhere. They wanted to have a studio with some vibe that artists could go to and really get into nature whilst making their records.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Meanwhile, over in New York, Joel Rosemond and John P. Roberts, the other two people that introduced it, start were entrepreneurs based in New York City that were already building a recording studio. John Roberts was heir to the polydent slash poly grip, denture adhesive fortune. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Born in a money, in the denture. You know, big denture. He became, he becomes the, the money man in this, in the four men. Right. So Michael and Ardie, the guzzan New York, he becomes the other money man in this in the four men. Right. So Michael and Arty, the guys in New York were put on to Joel and John. Sorry, Michael and Arty, the guys in.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Can we call Michael and Arty just to simplify, just call him Arty Lang, just bring him into one person, make some money. Oh yeah, that's good too. Oh, that's Marty. What about Marty Lang? Love that. That's ruined and at all.
Starting point is 00:13:45 So Marty, they're the ones that want to build the studio in the woods. They're put on to Joel and John to ask them about their experience building the studio, basically to get some pointers. The two young music guys met the entrepreneurs and even gave them a proposal for the studio that they wanted to build in woodstock in rural New York state. And to be honest, the entrepreneurs really weren't that interested in the idea. They however were only keen on one line in the entire proposal. One sentence stood out to them that said, quote, there's even a chance we could get some of the local talent to perform. The local talent of the area at that time included Bob Dylan and Janice Joplin. So the entrepreneurs Joel and John were especially intrigued by this and felt like they could make a fortune from this gig.
Starting point is 00:14:27 So they went back to Marty, Maclinati, and said, we're not really interested in the studio, but we do like the idea of putting on a concert, which Marty weren't that keen on. And the... They were like, oh, that was just a throwaway line. No one really wants that.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah, we just want to make a studio. They're like, ah, but we don't want you dumb studio. So the two duos went back and forth until the New York guys proposed to put on the concert and then use the profits of the festival to build the recordings to you that the other two wanted. Oh, yes. Now that's a compromise. It is. And that's how Woodstock Ventures Inc. was formed. Awesome. Now this was January 1969, and they hoped to put on the concert in August of that year.
Starting point is 00:15:12 So seven months to book, plan, promote, and stage the entire festival. Seven months. Seven months. Takes longer to bloody grow a human. Thank you, Dan. I don't know why I've decided to throw that out there, but seven months is not a lot of time, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. I'm putting that into context for pregnant people.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yeah, yeah. Just if they were like, yeah, that's even reasonable. Oh, wait. That's crazy short. It is crazy short. And the idea is for a festival to go for not one, not two, but three days. So they want to be huge. Wow, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:48 So they had the idea, but to put on a large concert and sell as many tickets as possible to fund a studio. That's the idea. Roberts and Rosemond became the money men paying for the festival. So now they need to do a venue and some acts, you know, the festival part of the festival. Yeah, okay. Which they initially had trouble doing. They had a real hell of a time booking acts early on,
Starting point is 00:16:09 but that all changed when credence, clear order revival, CCR, signed on to play for the sum of $10,000, which is equal to about $70,000 in US today. I'm honestly a little bit over CCR at the moment. It is getting played a loss. Who's playing? My house.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Oh, you're absolutely amazing. That's interesting, because I really, I don't hear more that much when they come on, I enjoy it. Yeah. But, um, oh, and I was saying that to my old man a while back and he's like, oh, if you're around at the time when they were out, you would have been absolutely sick of them. They were played so much. So it's like you're living through the 60s. Yeah, and it, but it's just, it's always the same couple of songs while the dishes are being done. And I, and you know, you hear them once you go, I don't know, this song in a while.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Is it a fortune at some? While he's cleaning the silver spoon? Is it their seminal he's cleaning the silver spoon? Is it there are seminal album soundtrack to the dishes? Yes, yeah, it is actually. So it is, yeah, it does make sense in context, but still every day. Yeah, can't handle it. Anyway, but that's why the way about seven months gestation period is a chimpanzee or a hippopotamus. I was wondering what you were googling because you did go quiet. Yeah, absolutely. And I was like, what's he up to? Well, I was looking up some very important woodstock took about as long to grow as a hippopotamus.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I mean, but they're massive. Yeah, they're now big only seven months. And so it was what stuck crazy. That's not a coincidence. That's not a coincidence. So Credence for the first ones to sign on, the drama Doug Clifford later commented, once Credence signed, everyone else jumped in line and all the other big acts came on.
Starting point is 00:17:59 That's cool. I've bad mood rising second my head, but yeah, great. I'm happy that Credence got everybody else over the line. That's good. The first dominoe to fall. And from that point on, other popular musicians signed onto the roster, which we'll go through, was looking great.
Starting point is 00:18:14 So no worries there, but the venue was a whole another question. The first choice was the lush 700 acre piece of land in Socrates, New York, very green spot, a few miles from Woodstock, which according to Britannica quote, it's where Bob Dylan and several other musicians were known to live in which had been an artist's residence since the turn of the century. So that whole area around Woodstock,
Starting point is 00:18:38 a very, already known as a very cool place. Yeah, great, that's what you want for a festival. Who cares about logistics? I just want it to be cool. That, great. That's what you want for a festival, you know, who cares about logistics? I just want it to be cool. That's right. Which is why they initially planned to host it on the sun. Whoa. That's fucking rad. CCI said, no thanks. So they had to move it to Woodstock. Well, that's what they planned to do. They wanted to go this place in Sogides, but that fell through when the owner of the land decided he didn't want to rent the land to some long-haired hippies So they had to keep looking so they got so they got their cars and drove around looking for a place that basically said full rent or for sale
Starting point is 00:19:12 with the leaper signs They came across the 30 acre mills industrial park in War kill New York which had none of the rolling hills of the other place It was an industrial lot with pretty shitty land, but they were desperate, so they just signed on. Right. And it was 30 acres in the one that I was looking at originally was, was it 70? 700. Because I was already going like, gee, 70 to 30. That's a bit of a drop-out. 700.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Right. Well, the nature is going to have to be dropped from 600 to zero acres on the festival plan, but that's okay. That will just get a petting zoo, it will do. Get a little goat, let people pat it. I love it. Charge them 10 bucks. So they're signed onto this new place, this industrial park, but the site shifting cause bands to have cold feet and many started to doubt the actual thing would go ahead
Starting point is 00:20:02 at all. So there's a bit of panic amongst the artists. And then things went from bad to worse for the organizers. When people from the town of Warkill, which is where the industrial park is, caught wind of the festival and many were opposed. They saw the hippy festival as a potential major disruption to their quiet way of living.
Starting point is 00:20:19 The concerned citizens committee was formed, despite meeting with the organizers many times, they just couldn't seem to see eye to eye. The CCC. The CCC versus CCR. Director of Operations of Woodstock, Mel Lawrence remembers that many of the town's people were concerned about the culture of long-haired hippies that, quote, smoked pot, took other drugs, were unruly, listened to
Starting point is 00:20:45 really loud music, and you had to be careful about your young daughters, which became a real point against us. These hordes of hippies were becoming in and taking advantage of our daughters. And I knew that was absolutely true. So the town officially backed out on July 15th and even protected themselves by passing laws, including a portable toilet ban and a law requiring a permit for any gathering over 5,000 people. So that basically killed the festival just one month before it was supposed to kick off on August 15th.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Ah, shit. It's so funny. It feels so short-sighted when a town goes that way. My favourite festival, which I talk about a fair bit, Meredith Busy Festival, the town is so far on board with it that they run and stalls there, and the town makes a lot of money off it and their community groups do.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And they really welcome everyone in with open arms. It's a really nice way of doing it. And so everyone who goes there fully respects the town and it's just the way nice to set up. So you go the other way and you go combative straight away. It seems strange. And it's sort of a chance for one weekend for your town to make a bit of money.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Why not? Totally. And also having a portable toilet ban could really backfire. What if they just put the festival on anyway? Yeah, that's right. Got tens of thousands of it with shovels. Yeah, just shit wherever you want, whatever. Shed the bucket if you want. The bucket, Lardy Duh. All right. Someone's brought a bucket.
Starting point is 00:22:21 That's if you've got the VIP ticket. You can shit in a part. That's if you've got the VIP. You can ship in a bucket. So the three day festival doesn't have a venue one month before it's supposed to kick off and the organizers were scrambling. It was all very stressful, but an unlikely savior stepped forward. 49 year old dairy farmer named Max Yasker
Starting point is 00:22:41 agreed to let the festival rent part of his property in the White Lake area in Bethel, New York. Max Yasker agreed to let the festival rent part of his property in the White Lake area in Bethel, New York. Max Yasker. Yeah. Love that. Love us. Yasker. Yasker from Bethel, Bethel, New York. Max Yasker. Bethel, New York. All of that is very pleasing. Did it for you, Betty? It is. Did it for you. Very pleasing. Despite being this new site, being 60 miles away from the town of Woodstock, the festival is still referred to as Woodstock. Because when that should be called Bethel. Bethel.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Where was good? Where were you in August 15, 1969? Were you in Bethel? Bethel. But then again, if it was called Bethel, and Dave was telling us it was supposed to be called Woodstock we'd be like that's so dark talking about. That's so stupid. Woodstock. Like the eight percent bourbon. Yeah, that bourbon would be called Bethel. Yeah, bro. Bethel bourbon. Is that a ring to it? Actually, yeah, okay. Now I'm listening. All right. Do you guys want to form a company called Bethel Bourbon?
Starting point is 00:23:48 Bethel Bourbon. He did my grandpa's dendure money, which he actually had. He was a dendure specialist. Yeah, right. So it was actually originally billed as a dendure capitalist. Not wrong. Don't you regret that? That was great. That was fun. That's a sadalyst. Well, not wrong. Don't you regret that? That was great. That was fun.
Starting point is 00:24:08 That's good fun. So we all know it as Woodstock, but it was actually originally built as Woodstock Music and Arts Fair presents an Aquarian Exposition in White Lake, New York. Okay. I guess Woodstock was just catchy as that's what everyone's called it. So the farmer, Max Yasko, was hero to the festival organizers, but opposition to the festival soon began in his area after it was announced that Bethel would be hosting the festival. Signs were erected around town saying, quote, local people speak out, stop Max's
Starting point is 00:24:37 hippy music festival and no 150,000 hippies here and buy no milk because he was a milk goat. Okay, you just got to not have any milk that'll show him. Yeah, you dickheads. Yeah, having dry cocoa pops that'll show him. Yeah, we're really mad about that. That's crazy. It's so strange to me that, yeah, that's why we don't want those bloody hippies here.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah, that are funny to think. The hippies are like famously harmless. Yeah, peace lovers, right? Yeah, and they're like, they don't like them because they've got long hair and they wear clothes that are a bit different. I don't like it. It's just that real generational thing where,
Starting point is 00:25:20 like, I think when I was reading about it, the difference between the, this young hippie generation and the generation before was probably more different than any other generation in modern history to that point. So there was, because it was such a big counter-cultural, they are growing their hair and wearing weird clothes to be different to their parents and their parents are like, we did not like this.
Starting point is 00:25:41 We did not like this. I think, because we're sort of the children of that generation, right? Are we? Yeah, basically. I mean, so it means to rebel against them. We have to be rule followers. And we, I think we really are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And they don't realize that they're like, oh, they're not, why aren't they doing it? Like, we did. It's like we're rebelling against you, your dickheads. Yeah. We get jobs. I haven't drunk milk in years. I work in a bank. Okay. I've got steady superannuation. Yes, that's true. That is not true. I'm fucked in the future.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Oh, well. No, well, you're part of that 60s hippie vibe rolling on. I'm just hoping that I have some kids who rebel against me and work really hard in school and are very, very intelligent people with great business savvy and they do very well and then they look after me. Yeah, that'll show you. Their rebellion is being real smart. Our brains are a belly against that day and DNA. You pesky kids with your intelligence and you drive for anything. Ah, put mum in a good home. Thank you. So tickets for the three day festival cost $18 in advance and $24 at the gate. Equivalent to about $130 and $170 US dollars today. Organizers hope to sell 50,000 of these tickets. Through record stores and mail order,
Starting point is 00:27:09 they pre-sold over 100,000 tickets. Whoa, what were they hoping for? 50, and they've doubled it. But because everything was so last minute, they didn't have time to install gates, fences, or ticket booths at the ticket at the event site. Good. All important, I would say. The promoters later said that they had to focus on the infrastructure for the musicians and providing, at the event site. Good. All important, I would say.
Starting point is 00:27:25 The promoters later said that they had to focus on the infrastructure for the musicians and providing food for the people. Basically, they were told by their builders you can choose either a fence, or you can have a stage. And they chose to have the stage. Oh, interesting. I would have gone fence.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Yeah, that's right. Because then I could hang fairy lights on it. Oh, I love fairy lights. I love them. And the bands could play just in front of the fence. Yeah, that's right. Because then I could hang fairy lights on it. Oh, love fairy lights. I love them. And the bands could play just in front of the fence. Yeah, exactly. That's beautiful, especially with fairy lights all over. God, when you say a hundred thousand pre-bought tickets, they paid, pre-paid. Yeah, they've pre-paid. Yeah. That's good. So they've got the money. Well, do they? They also didn't have bathrooms, concession stands, and a pavilion for the professional for form is when the festival started. So it was a real mess at the start because basically they had like four weeks to do everything.
Starting point is 00:28:17 But they had they had like hundreds of hundreds and hundreds of they would have had millions of dollars to spend on all this stuff though because they had been paid for the tickets. That's right. But it ended up costing lots and lots and lots. Right. And they did that. Because they didn't have any time. Yeah. And because food and entertainment were the number one priority, the ticketing was going to be impossible to police due to the lack of fencing in turnstiles, it was decided at the last minute to throw open the non-existent gates and just make the festival free.
Starting point is 00:28:45 What? That meant that lots more people than expected turned up, but it also meant the promoters lost a lot of money. Oh, why did they lose money? Yeah, well way more people than... Yeah. Way more people turned up but didn't pay the money to attend. Don't advertise that it's going to be free.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Just let people turn up with their tickets. This is before mobile phones. You know, if that happened now, and you ticket wasn't getting checked, you'd call your friends and be like, dude, come on to this festival, they're not checking, and more people would come. But back then, people would turn up with their tickets,
Starting point is 00:29:20 and they'd just come in and that would be fine. Why would you then go actually free? So then all the people who have paid a lot of money are going, what the fuck? Yeah, it'd be pretty good. And then just more people are coming. Well, I think a lot of the time the people that had rocked up probably were prepared to pay,
Starting point is 00:29:35 but they had no way to pay because they didn't have to. Oh my God. So they just opened and there was so many people waiting to get in that they just threw open the gate just because they couldn't do anything about it. Flaw out. Sounds like a real nightmare. Oh my God. I just feel stressed the organizers. Well, the festival was due to kick off on Friday, August 15th, 1969. But two days earlier than that, 50,000 so-called early birds had already set up camp in front of the stage area.
Starting point is 00:30:02 That was their entire estimated attendance rocked up two days early just to get a good spot. And they've set up camp in front of the stage. Yep. That is so funny. And terrible. Oh, that's not where you want to be sleeping? No, oh yeah, what if you want to go to bed?
Starting point is 00:30:23 Well, you know what, I've had a much better day. For the most, I'm very tired. I'm gonna turn in. You do your turn. Oh, man. When the festival properly kicked off two days later on August 15th 1969, it's estimated that up to 500,000 people turned up. Half a million people. What? I know. They hoped for 50,000.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Yeah. They got 500,000. Yeah. And remember, they didn't have fences and they hadn't really thought about the roads either, which in some directions meant traffic jams for 20 miles. What's that in kilometers? Oh, I don't fucking know miles and I refuse to learn. Like 35?
Starting point is 00:31:06 36. Jesus. And they have, so toilets wasn't even one of their first priorities. But even if it was, they're anticipating 50 to 100,000 people. They've got 500,000 people and what, two buckets? Yeah. Oh my god. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:24 And food, you don't, this is the main thing for me is food because I'm always hungry. I'm thinking about it right now. They had the helicopter and extra supplies. A local Jewish women's group made 40,000 sandwiches and just handed them out. They brought in like raw food, like a, like, you know, just entire lambs. And anyone who had a bucket, like a pot to cook it in was just given it and said, go. A living lamb? Yeah. Who's got a knife? Who's going to slaughter this lamb? It's 32K as well as in a day. There's going to be maths nerds out there, furious. Miles 1.6K. That's about right. I do not want mathematics Twitter on our back again. Yeah, I know. Again, last time. I'm sorry that I asked, but I refused to learn miles or pounds or Fahrenheit, I refused.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Well, we know. I just go, la la la la la la la la la. They told us in a recent episode, negative 40s, the same in both. And that's the only time they intersect. Is that right, Dave? That's true. 100%. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:23 One of the few things I've learned on this podcast that stuck in my brain. Yeah, I'll forget that anyway. So they don't have enough food. They're just bringing in sandwiches and just handing out sandwiches. Yeah, I mean, it would be... Maybe we'll have brought a bit of food, but like, there's definitely not enough to go around. That is my worst nightmare.
Starting point is 00:32:41 This does not sound like a fun festival. No. I like, because I went to Splenda last year to do some comedy and I liked being able to wander around and choose which of the many places I could get a coffee from. Wow. Yeah. Honestly, I would still keep you would spit in your face if I heard you say that. Yeah. Spit right in your face. But I wouldn't be near them because I would not be at that festival. Okay, that's fair enough.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Yeah, I married a fucking non-beak. So they've got the food stalls there, brilliant, you got the rotty wraps. Oh yeah, I love that. It's a real staple of mine. Some of the best corn fritters I've ever had in my life. It was avocado, feta, marit-a-feta of course. Oh wow. And corn fritters and a bloody Mary. I was like, who's the ever had in my life. It was avocado, feta, maritath feta, of course.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Oh, wow. Corn fritters and a bloody Mary. I was like, this is the best day of my life. Maritath have gone for the opposite of the Woodstock approach. They could sell way more tickets, but they've captured it. I think 12,000 is the whole day of our year. So everyone's got an H.E. They add a bit more room on the site at the farm.
Starting point is 00:33:44 They open up a little bit more. So you, same amount of people with a little bit more room on the site at the farm. They open up a little bit more. So you, same amount of people with a little bit more room to move. That's nice. It's nice. It's just a nice festival. But maybe we've learnt now. We've learnt from, but I mean, people who were at Woodstock
Starting point is 00:33:57 don't, I was gonna say they don't complain about it. I'm sure they do. It sounds like a nightmare. Yeah, you never hear about that. I guess by now, enough times going by, they'll just be like, how cool is it? I was at Woodstock. Yeah, it's just a thing to say. Yeah, absolutely. And so that rose coloured glasses in hindsight, it's like, yeah, it wasn't experienced, but
Starting point is 00:34:15 at the time, I would hate it. I want to know how a Hacely built stage catered to half a million people. I wonder, and they wouldn't have had big screens or anything. You would have been like, I can't see it. I can sort of hear it. Could you hear it? Yeah. Well, I'll be able to hear it. Yeah, I'll talk about the sound in the second.
Starting point is 00:34:35 So there were traffic jams of 20 miles. Many just ditched their cars and just walked the rest of the way. And given the volume of traffic, it took an average of eight hours for commuters to drive. The 98 miles from New York City to Bethel. So it was a long journey for most to get there. Oh, hard-need snacks to some that drive. And the last 32 kilometers would have taken hours. Arrific. And I love a road trip, but I turned back. Oh God no. Well, eventually radio and television descriptions of the traffic jams discouraged people from setting off to the festival.
Starting point is 00:35:10 So even more people may have turned up otherwise. Wow. Fart out. And it wasn't just traffic that was against them, they also had to deal with the weather. As they had recently rained a lot and was very muddy and the festival was completely outdoors. There was rain throughout the weekend,
Starting point is 00:35:25 which caused flooding and the mud only increased as time went by. Oh, yeah, I remember saying footage of people just, I mean, you see, the modern festivals well, people just diving into the bogs splashing around in it. No showers, no, hygiene set up at all. If you got a bucket, you're a VIP. Well, there was a lack of food and sanitation, as I said, and almost no security. Only 12 police officers were in attendance for the crowd of 500,000. I imagine that they'd be smarter to just like take off their uniforms and pretend to be another punter.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Yeah, just jump in the mud. Yeah. Despite this, despite fears that having so many free-spirited people in one place would result in absolute chaos, it was overall a very safe and positive vibe. There was no violence. It was just music. A lot of skinny dipping, which if you watch any footage, there is a lot of naked people. Some doobies and free love, baby.
Starting point is 00:36:25 You like the doobie brothers? Oh, yeah. Wow, here's one of them. This was the Make Love Not War, Couture Culture, Generation After All, and many put the safety of the festival down to this mantra, Make Love Not War. And there was... And they did. Apparently, people were just having sex wherever they felt like it.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Again, a nightmare in the mud, oh gosh. I don't want to be walking to the shit bucket and just say people fucking. You're lining up for your roti wrap and the two people in front of you are burning. You're like, excuse me, you're up next. Please. Please, I'm very hungry. I'm very hungry. I'm very hungry. Please.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I just, I just, I don't have it. I've got my keep cup and I want a latte. That's my kind of festival, and even then I hated it. Because I got cold overnight, and I didn't feel well, and I didn't like it. I didn't have a nice warm shower. To help with security, the promoters enlisted Hog Farm, a communal pig farm in New Mexico
Starting point is 00:37:24 to help out. It's later a man known as wavy gravy. What? That's reference on the citizens. Oh man, I've got the coin here. I've got a record here. I've never got it. I've never got what that man.
Starting point is 00:37:39 So he's a famous hippie from that era called wavy gravy and he was like a volunteer at hog farm, which is a communal pig farm that him and a bunch of other hippies lived at and he threatened to douse people who got out of line with salt to water or hurl pies at them cream pies. That help keep people in line. That's funny, but like a comedy cop. We should try that. Take cop's guns away and give him pies.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Cream pies. And as Matt just said, so that's one of my parents instance as well When mr. Burns is having a flashback from events in his life And there's one reason undercover on a boat with green peace and he just starts drilling a hole in the bone And then he reveals himself it was are you fools the man you trusted wasn't wavy gravy at all and all this time I've been smoking homeless tobacco And I love that before I got the reference. Oh And when I got the reference was right now
Starting point is 00:38:39 I've been watching the Simpsons a bit lately and there are so many references to stuff We've talked about and just things that I did not get even even though I've seen these episodes 10 times, now I'm like, oh! Now I get it. So there's all that to contend with, and of course, there was music, eventually. Oh, yeah, I forgot about the music. I was thinking about shit buckets. Well, because of the crazy traffic jams,
Starting point is 00:39:00 many of the acts ran hours late, or had to be flown to the side by helicopters. What? Where the fuck did they get helicopters? Well, the army reserves actually brought the acts ran hours late, but I had to be flown to the site by helicopters. What? Where the fuck did they get helicopters? Well, the army reserves actually brought the acts to and from the stage. Richie Havens is one of the singers recalled there wouldn't have been a woodstock if it weren't for the army.
Starting point is 00:39:17 There you go. Where were they bringing them from off site? Yeah, from hotels. Right. That's the way to do it. I was, I had pictured that all the acts were just in there amongst the crowd. But that yeah, I guess they're huge stars back then. That would probably cause a ruckus. Well, they're they're waiting backstage in like a pretty
Starting point is 00:39:37 non-existent area. And many of them because of the delays were waiting hours and hours and hours, which I'll talk about. But you asked about the sound. Bill Hanley was the concert sound engineer who said, it worked very well. I built special speaker columns on the hills and had 16 loudspeaker arrays in square platforms going up the hill. We set it up for 150 to 200,000 people. Of course, 500,000 people showed up. So it probably wasn't quite loud enough for everyone to run it the back. Wow. And the lighting rig was even more ramshackle as they weren't able to get a proper roof on the stage in time and couldn't hang the lights that were intended. So they ended up just having a couple of spotlights. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Ah, a couple of dolphin torches. Tape, tape to a stick. Well with the stage built, speakers in place, a couple of spotlights and a huge crowd waiting, the music finally kicked off on day one at 5.07pm. How was after schedule? 5.07, 5 o'clock it starts. Yep. Fucking hell.
Starting point is 00:40:44 First up was singer songwriter. And remember, some people have been there for two days by this point. Over two, like two and a half days. What are you doing? Oh, you fucking. Oh yeah. You fucking, you skinny dip in. You're eating whole lambs. Yeah, it does feel the day, you know.
Starting point is 00:40:59 You've got stuff. You've got stuff on really the music is secondary. Normally lambs are grazing, but this time around they're grazing on the lambs. Picking them, picking them as they go. I have a little bit of lamb cheek. First up we're seeing a songwriter, Richie Havens, performing some songs with a guitarist and a man on Konga. This performance really put Richie on the map.
Starting point is 00:41:22 This is him remembering it years later. It's quite a long quote, but I enjoyed it. He said, I also have to be fifth on stage. And now one of the whole festival went on when they were supposed to. I came in on one of those glass bubble helicopters and saw Tim hard at under the stage sort of playing by himself. I knew he wasn't going to go on first. I didn't want to either, but I had the least number of instruments. So I thought, God, three hours late, they're going to throw a beer cans at me, they're gonna kill me.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Fortunately, the reaction was, thank God, something's finally, someone's finally doing something. They were happy. That makes sense. Like, surely you'd be welcomed as a hero. Yeah, finally. And he went on to describe his set.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I was supposed to sing for 40 minutes, which I did. And then I walked off the stage and people were great. And then the organizers said, Richie, four more songs. And then I walked off the stage and people were great. And then the organizers said, Richie, four more songs. Okay, I went back on and that was still clapping. So I sang four other songs. Went off again, then I hear Richie, four more songs. They did that to me six times.
Starting point is 00:42:18 What? Two hours and 45 minutes later, that's something every song I know. Oh, that's amazing. He played for nearly three hours. I got to say this account is disputed because any set list, it's only been recorded that he actually played for 55 minutes. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Over the years, that's gone longer and longer. You didn't play a couple of Beatles covers, so I don't know. But it's such a great, even it's true. What a great story. Four more songs. Wow. Four more. I reach you. Four more? Where are I going? All right. Yeah, it's going to be um.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Oh, there we go. I've got to tell you. By the end he's just playing songs that he played at the start because he knows they're all too stoned to notice. You don't remember what happened three hours ago. Yeah. Wow. Well, after Richie kicked things off,
Starting point is 00:43:05 the music barely stopped for four days. Because of the delays, the three day festival ended up going to a fourth day. What? It consisted of 32 acts all up, and I'll talk you through a bunch of them. The first day had, and some of these bands were big in the 60s,
Starting point is 00:43:19 and I don't really know them. Maybe you guys do. They had sweet water, but summer, Tim Harden, Ravi Shankar played through a rainstorm. That would have been pretty freaking cool to watch. Wow. Familiar with Ravi's work.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Yeah, that's about it for me, two of those names. The singer known as Melanie. Oh, yeah. I think I've heard of Melanie. She took to the stage after another act canceled and her impromptu, so she wasn't even mentioned before, and performance got two on-cores from the crowd.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Wow. Are they playing overnight or are they stopping for naps? Oh, well, let me talk you through the hours and some of these acts around. No, I hate it. You were hated. The festival is making me so anxious. Of course, it's awful.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I hate it. I know I'm supposed to think it would be awesome, but this is my fucking nightmare. It does say, I mean, I feel like I'm somewhere in the middle, I think. I would definitely go if given the opportunity, but it does sound like there would be times where I wish I hadn't.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Oh, yeah, yeah. Then Aloe Guthrie, would he got three 19 year old sun plates? That's a pretty big deal at 19 Well, is his song Caroline's basement or something? No, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and so that's like a 16 minute parody song type thing right and Apparently people were pissed off because he didn't play it. He's number one hit like he's being hit You don't play 16 minutes when they keep making you go on to do formal song. Just play that song.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Yeah. Yeah. Alice's restaurant. That's it. Alice's restaurant. Andy Matthews, a big fan of the Guthries. Oh, no. We know he listens to this show.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Sorry, Andy. You've all, sorry, Andy. Miss represented that, but he definitely didn't play it and people were pissed. Finally, the first act on Night One performing for over an hour and finishing it 2am, so not too bad, this is the first night 2am, was the six month pregnant Joan Baez, who recalled her set years later. She said, I went out on the stage and I'm not sure what I sang, but I remember this guy at the top of the hill in the back with no clothes on and flowers and he's here and a long beard. And he started to dance to the crowd towards the stage.
Starting point is 00:45:26 So I just cut one of the songs so I could bow politely to him and leave before he made it onto the stage and got up there with me. She just called it a day to get away from this Chris. She watched him coming and just goes, fuck this. Thank you, good night. Bye. Yeah, it's like a horror movie where every time she looks back, he's a little bit closer, but he doesn't look like he's moving very fast, but he just keeps coming.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And he's sort of floating. Yeah. I think she probably made a good call there. Six months pregnant at that horror festival. And at one a.m. performing for an hour. Bloody good effort. Yuck! If she was a hippopotamus, she'd only be a month away from birth.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Yeah, and so that's even crazier, isn't it? Yeah. See, a equivalent of being eight months pregnant at a music festival in Hippo 2. Yeah. I confused myself. Me too. I think I'm on board. I think I get it now.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I get it now. Yeah, I get it now. So that's day one, that's Friday. Saturday, August 16 comes around. The music started at 12.30 the next day when Quill took to the stage. And Axe on the second day included Santana, whose debut album, her only been released that same month. And um. So he wouldn't have been the huge star at that point?
Starting point is 00:46:42 Absolutely not. No, he wasn't. He hadn't done his song with Rob Thomas yet. I looked through his set list, I couldn't believe he didn't have been the huge star at that point. Absolutely not. No, he wasn't. He hadn't done his song with Rob Thomas yet. I looked through his set list, I couldn't believe he didn't play smooth. He didn't play smooth. It's getting hot. What is it? There's a start.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Surely they rioted. Yeah, they must have rioted. So he wasn't well known at the time, but apparently his like groovy music really went down well with the crowd. So he was a big hit. And to be honest, that really could have launched him into the 70s. Yeah, true. I was expecting to know more of the artist's names, like a lot of them sound like they were big at the time, but not that many remain iconic. I reckon you'll know day two. This is the biggest day, or arguably some people get a nod of that,
Starting point is 00:47:21 but anyway, I think because you've got Santana who said to the crowd, Carlos himself said, it was a bit scary to go out there and plug into this ocean of hair, teeth, eyes and arms. It was incredible. That sounds like an awful ocean, an ocean of teeth and hair and arms. He said, I'll never forget the way the music sounded bouncing up against the field of bodies. You never forget that sound. Oh, yeah, it doesn't sound good, Carlos.
Starting point is 00:47:46 And then, use lettery told Rolling Stand magazine. For the band as a whole, it was great. But I was struggling to keep myself grounded because I had taken some strong psychedelics right before I went on stage. Ha, ha, ha, ha. When we first got there around 11 in the morning, they told us we'd be going out about eight o'clock.
Starting point is 00:48:02 So I said, hey, I think I'll take some psychedelics and by the time I'm coming down I'll be ready to go on stage and I'll feel fine That does seem smart. That's yeah, I think I think the perfect time to be Performing and you know, I do it a bit your best is when you're coming down from psychedelics Well, he said but when I was peaking around two o'clock somebody said if you don't go on right now You're not gonna go on right now, you're not going to go on. But my guitar's a snake.
Starting point is 00:48:28 I'll spin it now. Come on, snake. I'll spin it now, killing that guitar. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Come on, snake, it's our time to shine. I'm going to move. You can kill the stage. Oh, no, the bass player's got to snake as well.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I've got to kill the bass player. I think the guy who comes up to him and says, hey, it's your turn to go on, Santana, who'd be like, I don't know why this pumpkin's talking to me, but we better do what it says. All right. This set was followed by the incredible string band. That makes me laugh. I love early band names because it's like, you had all of them to choose from back then. The block was brand new.
Starting point is 00:49:17 You could pick anything, the incredible string band. Then it was canned heat. Oh, yeah, they're a big one. Bang and tune. I don't know how he sings like that. How do you make your voice like that? I had to get in a trance myself. I wonder if he did too. There's a Spotify playlist that I was listening to whilst writing this to try and get into the vibe. Where someone went through and they've put every song in order that was played over the four days. Get five. So I put that on shuffle and I was having to go through, but I can't remember. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I'm on the floor. But yeah, listen. I'm on a plate.
Starting point is 00:50:06 There's some good stuff. So there was canned heat. Then John Sebastian from the love and spoonful was pulled out of the crowd to give an impromptu set because artists were running late. So they're like, get up here, John. They play. That's fun. Do you believe in magic?
Starting point is 00:50:20 Magic. Yeah. Shoot. I know that from the parody of American, but I know that from the parody of American, I know that from another teen movie, I think. I think they sing that in the, you know, I think a parody is a bit from American pie where Oz Striker joined some sort of singing group. Mountain performed the fourth gig as a band in front of 500,000 people. So that's pretty crazy. What? Having said that, just wasn't you all like third gig in stand-up in front of like the biggest crowd ever? 1200. I can fly one at a thousand. That was your third. And then,
Starting point is 00:51:01 and 5 out of thousands. That was your third. And then, yeah, your third was in front of 1200 on TV. And then your tenth was on TV again, right? No, six and seven. Six was on TV. Seven was on TV also, because that was... I reckon that's 200 million like a world record. I don't think anyone of all time has done stand up,
Starting point is 00:51:25 televised twice in their first seven gigs. Yeah, it wasn't good. Maybe if someone started on one of those, like, America's got talent or something, but surely, I don't know. I'm sure other people have done it in Raw. And then done, up late as well? Ah, maybe not. Wild. But yeah, I think
Starting point is 00:51:47 Raw was, I know there are other people. I think Claire Sullivan was one of her first gigs as well was the national final, which is televised. Yes. That is true. People from outside of Victoria have less heats to get through, like Tasmania goes straight through. So often Tasmanians or Northern Territory entrance, their second ever gig is at the Melbourne Town Hall, which is well. Yeah, crazy. Well, these people's fourth gig was at Woodstock, so that is pretty crazy. I don't do no mountain, I don't really know mountain. No, I don't mountain. It's a strong name. Tell you that. They got in early with that one. Yeah. Yeah, don't mind that incredible string band versus mountain. Have you ever heard
Starting point is 00:52:25 of the nitty gritty dirt band? That's another one I was old band days where I'm like, I've been, you've got so many options. I mean, you've been talking about bread a few episodes ago. That's a great thing. What about just nitty gritty? That'll be alright. Yeah. Nitty gritty dirt band. Two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- two- theme. The next one was Nantucket Slayerite. I guess that sort of mountain related. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah. Flowers of evil was their third album. Oh, no. Back and forth. But their fourth album back on Avalanche. Mountain Avalanche, that works. Yeah, that's an attitude. Go for your life. Man's world, mystic fire, and masters of war in 2007. So they... Oh, still going. See what this maybe still around. Cool, David. I'm excited to...
Starting point is 00:53:28 Because you said this is the big day, so I'm... Excited to hear some names, I know. All right, I reckon from now on, for the rest of the night, you'll know everyone here. The music went all night, and I mean all night on Saturday, because of the delay, some of the biggest bands of that entire year, I believe, are ridiculous, I was. So Credence Clearwater Revival, who were the first band booked, remember? And one of the headlines didn't go on until very late.
Starting point is 00:53:50 John Foggety recalled this years later. We were ready to rock and roll and we waited and waited. And finally, it was our turn. There were half million people asleep. These people were out. It was sort of like a painting of a Dante scene, just bodies from hell, all intertwined and asleep, covered with mud.
Starting point is 00:54:07 And this is the moment I'll never forget as long as I live. A quarter mile away in the darkness, on the other side of this bowl, there was some guy flicking his beak. And in the night I hear, don't worry about it, John, where with you? And I played the rest of the show for that guy.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Sounds like a euphemism, but I just realized that means his wider. Yeah, a big lie. Not having a wink. Slicking these big. I saw him in the distance. I'm going to wait. Don't worry, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:54:32 He's dick out. Look at that, mate. And I've very uncomfortable. I played the rest of the show for that masturbating man. Slicking his big, what a term. So I love that. But poetry, to be honest, I think credence did not have a good time. They actually refused to be filmed.
Starting point is 00:54:51 They, which I'll talk about, there's a big documentary about this and they didn't want to be part of that and they didn't like the sound and they just didn't have a very good time. So I'm not surprised to hear that he's looking back on it. Right. Not very happy. But a lot of people, there's no way that everyone just slept through it, no way.
Starting point is 00:55:08 No way, because listen to the line up that would have been sleeping through it. So this is the line up on Saturday night. Basketball fans, the grateful dead went on at 10.30 p.m. Basketball fans are pretty good band, no? That is good. They played only five songs in their hour and a half set.
Starting point is 00:55:21 What do you mean? They finished with a 50 minute version of their song, Turn On Your Love Light. 50 minutes. Yeah, the full one. I hope that guy wasn't flicking his dick for the whole duration. Yeah, you got to have a rest, right? He's on a crescendo, right?
Starting point is 00:55:42 You got to get some electrolytes in here, I think. I'm raw a crescendo. You gotta get some electrolytes in here, I think. I'm roll over here. Help me. So the grateful dead they played during the rain. And this is Bob Weytal, Rolling Stone magazine is one of the members. He is later. The stage was wet and the electricity was coming through me. I was conducting touching my guitar and the electricity was coming through me. I was conducting, touching my guitar and the microphone was nearly fatal. I love everyone looking back on it. There's
Starting point is 00:56:10 some outrage stories. Then the Orphan mentioned Credence Clearwater Revival. Actually, one on at 12.30. So, I doubt everyone is dead asleep like he was claiming. No way. And then Janice Joplin performed at the Cosmic Blues band from 2-3 AM. What? She'd been excited by the large crowd when she arrived, but had to wait 10 hours to perform and drank a lot of alcohol and shot up a lot of heroin whilst waiting. Pete Townsend.
Starting point is 00:56:35 She thought, that way, when I'm coming down and hung over. Perthy. And the guy in the crowd was also coming down. Daniel. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Pete Townsend who performed with the Who Later in the Night after Joplin finished witnessed her performance. He said in his 2012 memoir, she'd been amazing at the Monterey music first, but tonight
Starting point is 00:57:02 she wasn't at her best. She probably, to the long delay and probably too, to the amount of heroin and booze she'd consumed while she waited. But even Janice on an off night was incredible. But that's pretty cool. A little over a year later, she'd be dead at 27. Oh, wow. Next up was Sline.
Starting point is 00:57:18 That didn't have anything to do with the heroin, did it? Oh, no, no, no, just a coincidence. Oh, no. Dad had. Yeah. Sline, the family, did it? Oh no, no, no, no, just a coincidence. Oh no, dad, no. Oh yeah. Slian the family's stone were up next from 330 to 420. What? Fuck off. Oh, everyone's going to bed.
Starting point is 00:57:36 What are you doing? Oh, I got so sick after Splendor. The sickest I've ever been because it was so cold overnight that we didn't get much sleep because you couldn't get to sleep and then you wake up really hot in the morning once the sun hit. And so you're not sleeping and you're just surviving
Starting point is 00:57:57 on food truck food. I was sick for two weeks after it. How did, within deaths because of woodstock? It's mental. How was it, oh, drugs. I was gonna say how's anyone alive drugs, that's out. That's right. They were on something, all of them.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Yep, the whole time. It's the only way. So, yeah, 3.30 to 4.20 for Sline the Family Stone. Santana would say of Slice Stone. I don't think you ever played that good again. Steam was literally coming out of his afro. Wow. Then the who went on from 5am till 6.05am, they had also waited 10 hours to perform
Starting point is 00:58:34 after being scheduled to take the stage in the evening. That's how late everything's running. And it wasn't a comfortable way to the muddy field, quoting the who's Roger Doltry here from an article in Vulture that I'll link to. He said, it was even harder on the Who Drummer Keith Moon. Doltry said he always suffered from terrible nerves before performances, which per Doltry always worsened the drinking habit that wound up killing him, an audience of half a million didn't exactly help.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Even worse for Doltry, who, while at Dabler and Alcohol abstained from drugs through this time, there was no food backstage, and everything was laced with LSD. Even the ice cubes had been done, he said, fortunately, I'd brought in my own bottle of Southern comfort, so I was fine right up until the morning I decided to have a cup of tea. That's how they got me, a nice cup of hallucinogenic tea. Oh my god, and also he's like, it's all right. I've got my own Southern comforts. I'm saying hydrator. This is blowing my mind. So that they played their album Tommy in full, which is like their concept album and then played a couple of greatest hits at the end of their set.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Wow. Jefferson Aeroplane finally wrapped up Saturday night performing from from 8 till 9 40 a.m. Sunday morning. And then what? Did they have a break? Or do you just start again? Well, they had a break for about five hours and then the music started again. What the fuck is this festival? It sounds awful.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Why is it so unfair? It sounds like a fucking nightmare. It's so much. I'm loving your reaction. This is the best. I think I'm pretty sure modern festivals have a similar, they might not have the huge headliner playing those times, but most of them would have music through the night.
Starting point is 01:00:21 And they now splendered wood, I think. No, that'll finish that finishes it about midnight. Does it? Maritath goes through to- Nothing starts up again until 11 or 12th. I think the next day. Maritath on Saturday and I go through till 8am I think. Does it?
Starting point is 01:00:35 Goes all the way. There's a, they say, never miss Science Wedge, which is an hour or two hour break. The last band and the, I think the tight Chi master who kicks off the Sunday. Yes, love that guy, but at least because they spread it out and you have designated camping areas, you can go to bed at any time and you can't get to sleep. I love an afternoon nap big time. Yeah, I remember looking for you and someone's like, he's having a kit. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:01:01 He's fine. This is a kick. Oh, right. He's fine. Um, this is a nightmare. Also, just from like, I'm a real planner. So the logistics of it, and stressing me the fuck out. The thing is, you're waiting for 10 hours to go on. Only one stage. That's right. You can't miss anyone.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Imagine if there were three stages, and you've planned out, oh, I've got to see this band at this time, and then get to this other stage at this time. And they're all working off random five-hour behind time figures. Oh my God. Now I've bands go like three minutes over, sometimes they'll literally pull the plug on the band. That's what I like. I like organization, logistics, we know whatever. Bring back Wavy Grohies. Hi, icons. It's Danny Pellegrino from the Pub Culture podcast, everything iconic. And Back wavy grimy. Hi icons. It's Danny Pellegrino from the pop culture podcast, everything iconic.
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Starting point is 01:03:33 again with Joe Kocko and the grease band. I think I've seen it performs this so good. Then there was country Joe and the fish, the band. We just once more, I've got to say so many band names available back then. You could have anything. The strokes that hadn't been taken. Pantera was still on the table. Metallica.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I'm looking around my room and I can think of better things. Salt lamp. What's up there? Pen cup. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think that's like one of the bands on this lineup really. Yeah. The weight hornet was still up for grabs. Weight horn. A weight hornet's on the table. And that makes more sense in that era than when I was in New Seventh Loss for sure. Keyboard box. Oh, I keep our boxes close, but I think they would have to make it longer and more annoying. Keyboard box fun time silliness hour band. Band have died bands for people know what it is. What is this? So the band were followed by Johnny Winters then blood sweat and tears and Matt you love this at 3 a.m Crosby Stills Nash and Young took to the stage for what was only their second ever gig Wow
Starting point is 01:04:39 What time is that 3 a.m. I saw them I saw them in 2013 and I don't think they'll ever play again from what I've been reading lately. I have a few crossbeers fallen out with the rest of the band because the family is a bit of an a whole. Oh no, but he's apologizing I think he's realized it and I but it sounds like maybe. The damage has been done sort of thing to little to yes, Yes, but I feel lucky to have been able to see them. But yeah, three. That would have been amazing. Second have a gig. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Yeah, they performed an acoustic and then an electric set. Apparently the other acts on the bill who'd never heard them perform together had their eyes glued to this new sort of super groove. Yeah, that's cool. They were like the bands band of the festival, right. Yeah, that's great. Love that.
Starting point is 01:05:28 I just keep popping into my head that quote you said before about everything was laced with LSD because I'm imagining like unpeeling a banana and being like, oh, no, LSD! And that image of unpeeling a banana and finding LSD just keeps popping into my head. They've glued the skin back on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:48 So if I ever look like with my eyes closed over a bit, I'm thinking about an LSD banana. I just want you guys to know that. You've taken an LSD banana. I'm just thinking about it. Getting flicked a big band. Is there anything? Flicked the big. Yes, like the band.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Flicked the band. Band. Got to be band by band. Yeah, flicked the big. Yeah, the band. Band. Gotta be band back then. Yeah, flick the big. Yeah, but what about L L. Let's say bananas pretty good as well. L. Stay banana L. S.
Starting point is 01:06:12 D. Nana. Now we go on back to something we would have played it. What would stop L. See Nana band. That's our kids band. Yeah, you know, like we do children's entertainment. L.
Starting point is 01:06:23 S. D. No, don't do drugs, but eat bananas. Good source of potassium, allogic ice. Yeah, you're right. It keeps you going in both ways. It does.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Yeah. So the crowd of industry friends looking on from off stage was intimidating. And this prompted stills to say of the key. This is the second time we've ever played in front of people, man. Westgate, shitless. Neil Young was really young at the time. He was only 23 for that gig crazy living up to his name. Yeah Other music the music went on I mean I
Starting point is 01:06:57 Huh picking up what you put it in That's just me like, acknowledge me. I actually had read the sentence wrong. I was supposed to say, Neil Young really was young. But I fucked it. Oh, fuck too. Neil Young was really young. I think he's first album might have even come out that year as well. So he was obviously, and he'd be pretty wide-eyed, right?
Starting point is 01:07:21 Because he started out up in Canada where he's from. And imagine that would have all been pretty full on. Yeah, big deal. But I think you know, he's a kind of guy that opens his mouth to sing and everyone goes, Oh, shit. But Matt at the time was he quite old or? Oh, no, I think her near was young. Wait, but he was like, when was the in Buffalo Springfield day?
Starting point is 01:07:42 I think he'd done a bit of stuff from that already. So I think maybe Solalbum had come out 68. I was looking up maybe the year before. Okay, so yeah, so he'd been around a little bit, but just then as a force and was there second over key? Yeah, second time that four of them had come together. They'd already had individual and band success with other bands, doesn't they?
Starting point is 01:08:02 Yeah, I think it was from the Holies. One of the English ones from the hollies, one, or a couple of them from Buffalo Springfield and one of them from the bird. From the bird, yeah. Back then, I just felt like every big band was, you know, the Venn diagram of all the bands. They're just overlapped everywhere. And yeah, I think that people were like, whoa, these four people coming together, it sounds awesome. Yeah, let's see. So the music continued on through the night again
Starting point is 01:08:29 and into Monday morning, which initially wasn't supposed to happen or supposed to just be a Sunday night and it would finish. We had the Paul Butterfield Blues Band from 6 till 6.45 AM. Shanana was the second-last act from 7.30 to 8.00 AM. The then-new act probably only got on the bill because of their friendship with the ultra-cool Jimmy Hendrix who took to the stage for the final and quintessential performance of Woodstock
Starting point is 01:08:53 Hendrix himself was actually up from 9 a.m. to 11.10 a.m. Monday morning So he was supposed to be the Sunday night headliner. Right After being introduced as the Jimmy Jimi Hendrix experience, Hendrix corrected his temporary group's name to Gypsy Sun and Rainbows. That's the outright. He said, for sure, it's nothing but a band of Gypsies. Okay. Despite playing such an iconic set, so a lot of people that imagine would stop. You see Jimmy Hendrix up there. Yes. Which included a very famous guitar rendition of the US national anthem, the Star Spangled
Starting point is 01:09:25 Banner. Not that many people actually saw him play it live because the festival ran an entire day late and he wasn't on until Monday by the time things came round to it. A lot of people that actually left the festival by that time. They're going to get back to work. Yeah, these hippies do get a discount. They're all accountants by day. They're going to cut their hair. Get back to work. Yeah, these hippies do get a discount. They're all accountants by day. Yeah, they're going to cut their hair, get back to work. He still played for somewhere
Starting point is 01:09:48 between 30 and 80,000 people, but still a lot less than a lot of the other acts had. Wow. Accurate estimates are difficult because no one wants to say that they missed hand tricks. I would like to get an hour or two. What a reward to hang around. He was the highest paid artist at the festival. So arguably, the headliner, he received $18,000, which is equivalent to about $125,000 in US today. But there was also a clause in his contract stipulating that no one could perform
Starting point is 01:10:17 after Jimmy Hendrix at the festival, a clause which actually resulted in him playing to a much smaller crowd. So they probably could have put him on earlier, but then they would have had other artists after him, which he didn't want. So he played to less people. He can't have screwed himself a little bit, didn't he?
Starting point is 01:10:32 But I mean, like, he's still performing to what? Was it 30 to 80,000? 30 to 80. I mean, that's still pretty good, isn't it? Far out. That's sick. That is totally, that's the image in my head. If I think Woodstock, I think when you said Joe Cocker,
Starting point is 01:10:47 that remind me of seeing clips of him playing a lot, but the Jimmy Hendrix. Is that where he did he light his guitar on fire there? Am I thinking that? Is that famous that it originally did where he was at somewhere else? I might have been somewhere else. I didn't watch the entire two-hour performance, which I definitely wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Honestly, Dave, do you even give a shit about our podcast? What's the star-spangled banner? Yeah. What's that parody video? The Simpsons? Simpsons, it's not in Wayne's World 2, is it? In Wayne's World 2 is Wayne Stock. Yeah, but is there a... or am I thinking, I don't know, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Jimmy Hendrix looks like he burned his guitar at Monterey Pop Festival in 1967. That's another big one on the other, other coast. And I should say, to correct another mistake I made, it was Graham Nash, is the English one from Crossbeast Hills, Nash and Young. He was the one from the Holies. Stills was from Buffalo Springfield with Neil Young. And I just remembered another thing that connected an old report to this is Remember that Phil Hartman designed their logo. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:11:52 That's so cool. That was that was that was a really fun fact if I can say that Jess. I really thought that was fun I don't love that you did that especially on my special day. Sorry. Sorry But it was fun. So I'll allow it because I'm honestly just because I'm in my 30s now, you know, I've matured. It does seem like something a cheeky 20 something or old might say. So you'll let him get away with it this time. Yeah. For his or I to get him. All right. Thanks, ma'am. I will marry you. So that's the music, which I was a big part of the festival, but it was just
Starting point is 01:12:29 wanted to say it was noticed just before the festival kicked off that they've forgotten to hire an MC. So the festival's lighting designer, Chip Monk, who actually didn't have much to do in the end, because they only had the spotlights, was us, the step in at the last minute, to introduce bands and make announcements. He can be heard and seen in recordings of Woodstop making stage announcements, including requests to stay off the towers. People started climbing the music speakers towers and he had to tell them to get down, especially during the storms.
Starting point is 01:12:56 And I love this warning about Brown acid. He said, to get back to the warning that I've received, you might take it with however many grains of salt you wish, that the brown acid that is circulating around is not specifically too good. It's suggested that you do stay away from that. Of course, if it's your own trip, so be my guest. But please be advised that there's a warning on that one, okay? Brown acid. That's a warning on that one. Honestly, the brown acid, that's an issue to do with the portalus. We didn't get enough. And there has been some cross contamination.
Starting point is 01:13:30 So please stay away from the brown acid. I'm drinking the brown acid. Towards the end of the festival, the farmer who owned the land, Max Yaskin, that they were using made a famous address to the crowd. He said, this is his speech. I'm a farmer, crowd cheer. I don't know how to speak to 20 people at one time, let alone a crowd like this, but I think you people have proven something to the world. This is the largest group of
Starting point is 01:13:58 people ever assembled in one place. We have no idea that there could be this size group. Because of that, you've had quite a few inconveniences as far as water, food, and so forth. But above that, the important thing that you've proven to the world is that half a million kids, and I call you kids because I've got children of that older than you are, half a million young people can get together and have three days of fun and music
Starting point is 01:14:19 and have nothing but fun and music. And I, I God bless you for it. That's so nice. What a legend. That's so nice, but a legend. That's so nice. That's sick. That's lovely. David, which is really nice. You read the James A. Calsic's classic Scrapes book.
Starting point is 01:14:35 There's a similar kind of story in there, do you remember? He was talking about doing a festival, doing stand-up at a festival. And I'm going to butcher the story, but it basically goes that he wasn't ideally set up for a stand up. Like, there's no light on them or whatever. They were expecting musicians. So he went out and the crowd were hating him. And there was a similar figure at this festival that just, he was like the max, the evolution
Starting point is 01:15:04 of the max guy. And he came out and the crowd loved him, but they were booing. I think they were booing James A. Caster and asking for the farm. Something like that. Yeah. So, and we're back to the farm. And reminded me of a couple of festival spots I'd done where you just like, oh, this is not built for comedy.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Yeah, I have not thought about this. Listening that story made me feel sick of my stomach, but yeah, I like this version so much when I asked everyone's on the same page, Max and I got latined. Well, yeah, and it sounds like the attitude of the festival was great. I have no issues with that. It's the logistics that I'm struggling with,
Starting point is 01:15:39 personally, not for me. Dave, did you read anywhere how much Max made from this? Like they rented the land? Yeah, they paid him something like $10,000 or something. So quite a lot of money. Yeah, all the time. I mean, comparatively, they paid Jimmy Hendrix like 18 grand or something. Yeah, it made similar money, you know, to some of the bigger musicians. He got similar money to say credence. Yeah, big payday for a long weekend, essentially. And they got, everyone got their money? Yeah, apparently I read in some places.
Starting point is 01:16:11 So this is the kind of thing where 50 years later, it's such an iconic thing, but everyone's high and drunken. There's so many stories that the who- Everything's laced with LSD, even the bananas. Well, the who and Janice Chopplin and a couple of other artists refused to go on until they got their money up front and cash backstage because they're...
Starting point is 01:16:28 Well, when you've already waited 10 hours, I'd be saying money up front, too, actually. And you've also seen that people are coming in for free. You're like, well, what was it? How do you paint for this anymore? So they had to get a banker to front the money, to cover it. Dant your dollars.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Give them the cash. And then they got the equivalent of 80 grand as a kid. That's right. Dancer dollars. Give them the cash. And then they got the, you know, they're equivalent of, you know, 80 grand. That's right. That's good. I went to a festival about 10 years back called the Blueprint Festival. And I think the organizers are maybe allegedly still on the run. Because they, oh no. Yeah, they bit off a bit more than they can chew and owe a lot of people money.
Starting point is 01:17:06 And I think they're just these young kid organizers. And it was if I really enjoyed it, but yeah, I don't think the money made sense and it ended up kind of ruining their lives allegedly. Oh, that's a bummer for everyone. Yeah. Yeah, no one got paid. It's making me lose. Like the farmers, the local, there were local businesses who put up food and drinks and everything.
Starting point is 01:17:31 I just think like no one got paid. Yeah, this is making me want to watch the Fire Festival docker again. It's the difference between like the Fire Festival disaster and everyone's like, um, this is not good enough, whereas Woodstock's like, free love, baby, let's fuck. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's no toilets. Woo! This weekend ever! Awesome, I didn't want one anyway. I love to not, I love to just shit anywhere. I just like to be wavy gravy, baby. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, less than two years after the festival, Max Yaskega sold the farm, and in 1973, he sadly
Starting point is 01:18:11 died of a heart attack, age 53. Rolling Stone accorded him a full page of itchery, and he's one of the few non-missions to ever receive such a tribute because of his... That's nice. That's lovely. That's so nice. Not nice that he died of it, but... Well, everything must come to an end of his. That's nice. That's lovely. That's so nice. Not nice that he don't sleep at all. Everything must come to an end, Jess.
Starting point is 01:18:28 That's right. It seems like he had a pretty good run. Seems like a nice man. Sadly, not everything about the festival was positive. There were two recorded. You know, shit, Dave, I can name a bunch of things. And I have been passionately. Well, there were two recorded fatalities
Starting point is 01:18:43 at the festival. One from an insulin usage and another cause when a tractor ran over someone sleeping in a nearby hey. Oh shit. It's a bit nasty. That's not good. Insulin usage died from it. I like it too much. I'm not sure if it had too much or they needed someone that didn't have it or that sort of thing. Yeah, right. So two deaths. But two out of half a million people. That's right, with no proper security, no proper medical, they did have volunteers on site,
Starting point is 01:19:17 but it's not enough for a 500,000 people. And everyone's on drugs 24,000. Yeah, that's right. So you'd expect some overdoses or... Exactly. ...people needing medical attention. So, that's actually, well, very sad, especially somebody that accident of the tractor, that's awful, but those numbers are incredible. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And a lot of people, apparently the biggest injury was just people cutting their feet because everyone was working bare feet. That was the most reported injury by the volunteer medical staff. But overall, everyone was pretty damn safe. Wow. That's awesome. Once the crowds left, again, this caused traffic jams. They also left a lot of mess behind. The cleanup took days, cost tens of thousands of dollars
Starting point is 01:19:59 and required bulldozers. There was that much shit there. Oh, it's gross. Literal shit. Yeah was that much shit there. Oh, it's gross. Literal shit. Yeah, you're literally yes. Yeah, but they just used that as manure in the nearby fields. Honestly, it was one of the most prosperous seasons. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, swings around about.
Starting point is 01:20:18 The farmers were like, come back, keep shitting. Oh, shit over there, please. Can you shit over there? I need to please? Can you shut over there? I need some weight. Can I run, spread out, take a shit please? Throw a shit minimum. All in all, despite being so damn ram, shackled in last minute, Woodstock was culturally a huge success.
Starting point is 01:20:39 However, all up, it cost $3 million to host the festival. And because of the sheer scale and the fact that they had to make it free for 80% of attendees, the organizers lost a lot of money. Fortunately, for them, most of the band's performances were filmed. And in 1970, the following year, a documentary called Woodstock, directed by Michael Wodley, was released to huge critical acclaim. Michael Wodley was released to huge critical acclaim. With the runtime of over three hours, and these days there's a four hour version.
Starting point is 01:21:10 It was edited by seven people, including Thelma Scoonmaker, who would go on to win multiple Academy Awards, editing Martin Scorsese films, and also edited in part by Martin Scorsese himself when he was very young. Oh, cool. I'm also just imagining the four-hour version
Starting point is 01:21:25 is just slowed down. It's the same. It's just a bit slower. And there was a lot to edit, director Wodley at the festival shot, 315,000 feet of film, nearly 100,000 meters. Oh, I love hearing about that, measured in feet. Yeah. He had like multiple cameras set up and they're all running film and all filming
Starting point is 01:21:48 the entire festival. So it was so much. That's amazing. The film won the Academy Award for Best Documentary Film and was a box office smash grossing over $50 million on a budget of only $600,000. Whoa. $1,000 on a budget of only $600,000. Whoa! So it made more than 15 times the entire festival cost, which is crazy. Oh, that's nuts. And it was a lifeline to festival organizers who were part of the producing it.
Starting point is 01:22:15 And the movie financed settlements and paid off $1.4 million or nearly $10 million US dollars of debt that they had. Accured, incurred from the festival. So, thank God they filmed it. Oh, and I would just like they just say I'm being fun to film sort of thing. Yeah, well they got the well I thought that you know they thought it was going to be a thing but I don't think culturally that was like the biggest music documentary ever at the time. I think it was something like the fourth third or fourth rise, a highest-grossing film of the entire year. Like, think about the last time a documentary
Starting point is 01:22:47 was in the top three highest-grossing films of the years. It was crazy, successful. And that must have been good for the bands as well. What a good, and more good boost. So a bunch of those acts, even though some of them we don't remember them all today, like the guy Richie that opened the festival, that really kickstarted his career and him being part of the stuff like the film
Starting point is 01:23:08 and the soundtrack really gave him a career. I should also say the documentary and its live soundtrack album also helps put Woodstock on the cultural map, connecting it to not only the people that attended but millions more around the world. So that's another reason that we, Generations Later, still know it because the film was and we've all seen that footage of, you know, even for a few seconds of Jimmy Hendrix, that's part of the documentary. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:31 The cover of the live album released became one of the most iconic photos of the festival. If I showed it to you, you might see it. Might have seen it. It's taken by Burke Ozzel. And it features Bobby Kelly, embracing his embracing his then girlfriend of only 10 weeks. Nick Irkalline, or maybe the other way around, know the 10 is the other way around. Maybe Bobby Kelly embracing her boyfriend of 10 weeks. Nick Irkalline. They were tracked down years later and are still married to this day.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Oh. Not amazing 50 years later. That's nice. So in the, they're sort of embracing in there wearing like it's sort of hippie looking blanket type thing with the crowd behind them. It's just a really nice moment. And they barely knew that the photo was taken.
Starting point is 01:24:14 And apparently when the album came out they were like, oh wow, we're on the cover. That's us. That's cool. And then 50 years later they'll track down and they're like, yeah, we're still married and I saw a video footage of them. They just look like, you know like our parents, it's amazing. Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm looking at photo now.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Yeah, I'm looking at it. Yeah, I'm just looking at it. I've heard it before. Yeah, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got, it, is it worth a listen? Like the record quality is good? Yeah, they totally, and it's been remastered and it sounds really, really good. Yes, probably better than actually sounded in flight. I mean, it's a very nice photo, but I don't, is that the best photo they had from the day?
Starting point is 01:24:58 You couldn't have something of like the whole crowd on the stage or something, looking a bit more grand. I'll try and post a few photos as well from the air. It's insane seeing. It's amazing. Are you looking at that? I'm looking at Google image. How many people, like half a million people on this grassy hill, or it's like Sandhunter said, just a massive people.
Starting point is 01:25:14 It's terrifying, really. I saw a photo before of people's way up the back. Like, you could barely see the stage from where they, from in the photo, you could barely see it. So they definitely couldn't see the stage from there. And they're sitting shoulder to shoulder like they're tightly packed in that far back. Far out. It's insane. It's awesome. I just want to end with a, well I'll end with this fact and then a line from our old Matt Carlos Santana. So this is a crazy historical fact. All three of these report
Starting point is 01:25:44 topics and huge moments of the 20th century all happened in a 30-day period. Think about this month. The moon landing, the Manson family murdering eight people including Sharon Tate and then Woodstock all in 30 days. That's crazy. What's the 30 days? Yeah, so in the same month. Wow. That's not... And they call it the summer of love. It seems a bit more messed up than that, right? Yeah. And then Vietnam's really kicking off when people have been conscripted
Starting point is 01:26:12 all sorts of stuff, yeah. It is. Wow. That's nuts. Santana would let us say looking back on it. Remember, he was high as hell whilst playing accidentally with a snake. He said, some people called it a disaster area, but I didn't see nobody in state of disaster.
Starting point is 01:26:28 I saw a lot of people coming together, sharing and having a great time. If that was out of control, then America needs to lose control at least once a week. In the 60s, people didn't go to concerts to get drunk and pick up chicks. They went to get bombarded with music and be taken somewhere else. When he came out, he never knew where you were going to be the same. He didn't go to a concert to escape. He went to a concert to expand. I wish he finished that with man.
Starting point is 01:26:54 That would have been bad. That would have been perfect. Expand man. Well, the opening act of the festival Richie Havens, who was forever associated with Woodstock, died of a heart attack in 2013, and as per his wishes, his ashes were scattered from the air above the Woodstock site on its 44th anniversary that year. That's great. Oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 01:27:14 There you go. So what do you know what the farm is now, still a working farm? Oh, right. So there's been a number of anniversary concerts over the years, the biggest being Woodstock 94 and Woodstock 99 for the 25th and 30th anniversaries. These took place in New York in the state, but we're nowhere near the original site. Right. Probably worth their own report, especially Woodstock 99, which was Marden violence and was a complete disaster by many. Exactly. And wasn't it, I think Metallica played
Starting point is 01:27:40 there. And it was like, it like heavily, a lot of advertising, a lot of corporate sponsors and stuff like the opposite of what a lead way to celebrate it. It was like the MTV version that people were saying. Oh, that was hard. Yeah, a lot of new metal was huge at the time. So I'd lit biscuit, corn, those types of bands. Who thought that was a good idea? Yeah, some of the people that organized the four that organised the original festival were involved,
Starting point is 01:28:07 but then they very much distance themselves saying, oh no, we're only initially involved. No, that wasn't us. Yeah, far out. But the original site was purchased in 1996 by billionaire Alan Geri, and today is home to the Bethel Woods Center for the Arts, which includes a museum and a 15,000 seat outdoor concert venue. In August. 15,000. Yeah. That's huge.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Yeah, it's kind of like an amphitheater. That's nice. On August 13, 2006, Crosby Stills Nation Young performed before 16,000 fans at the New Center, 37 years after their historic performance at Woodstock. That's cool. Yeah, there's still concerts there. and you can go and have a look. And we'll just have to add it to the list of many, many things that we want to see when we finally get to the last stage.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Oh, man. That would be so cool to get there. Yeah, just to walk through, if you're allowed to, which I imagine, I don't know, do they do tours or something? I wonder. Yeah, well, because there is like a Woodstock museum there, and you can, yeah, I imagine go have a look. That'd be great. That's the actual sign.
Starting point is 01:29:06 I'd be keen for sure. Yeah. Dave, after doing the report, would you go to Woodstock? Great question. I feel like Matt probably would. Yes. I mean, you'd have to, right? I mean, it would be tricky if you did.
Starting point is 01:29:24 You absolutely don't have to. No. You reckon if you could go back in time, go to Woodstock, you wouldn't go. No. I mean, I'd still be the same person I am now, and that would still be my nightmare. I think I would, I'm half of between the both of you. I think I would find it a nightmare, but I would just be so intrigued by the vibe, everything about it, the story, the history, and now researching this,
Starting point is 01:29:47 because I also saw video footage of the mud and the rain, and now hearing about like a third in sanitary, it's like, the sanitary, it's like, oh, but also seeing those iconic bands and just being part of it. If I knew that I could safely for days later come back and be in my mod itself and be safe, I'd say yes.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Oh, I wouldn't stay for the four days. If I could pop in, have a look around for a bit and then leave, I'd do it. But if I had to be there for the four days, even at a four night, no, not doing it. I think Dave, you and I are on a similar side. I think what you said is kind of how I feel as well. I think we're on a similar side level. Because it's just so intriguing, like you wanna be there. I think any you said is kind of how I feel as well. I think we're on a similar level.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Because it's just so intriguing like you want to be there. I think any of those big historical moments, I'm if you could be there even just to view it. Yeah. You know just to be part of the history but like you know as long as you could could be safe and probably say yes. Yeah. But that is more of everything is laced in LSD day. Not everything. even bananas. Don't touch any especially bananas. And bananas because that's that brown. That was the brown acid. Brown acid and that is, I mean, it's your trip. So you do you, but you probably shouldn't.
Starting point is 01:30:55 You shouldn't do that one. Well, that is my report on Woodstock 1969. Great report. No, he showed it very much. Yeah, well done. That was a wild world. Right. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy story. And like I said at the start, I really didn't really know much about it at all. So I was it was a fun one to dive into. I put it up further a vote. Yeah. A few months back. So I and I just
Starting point is 01:31:17 quickly checked if there was enough info. So I got as far as knowing four young men put it together. And I didn't get you on that. So thanks for feeling in the rest. There was a couple of details you got to that I did it. Just a couple, just a couple. But yeah, Dave, you should post a few video clips to you in the week as well on our social media
Starting point is 01:31:38 of some of the... Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We'll try and get the vibe across. I'd love to see a Joe Cockawan again if you can. All right, I'll try and get the vibe across. I'll I love to say a Joe Koko on again if you can All right, I'll try and remember a bit of Joe Koko. I'll try and put the Jimmy Hendrix star-spangled banner just because it is so iconic. I'll go shit in a bucket Sort of get the get the vibe going. I won't shower for the next four days, and I won't eat. I'll just do acid So the next four days as a tribute. It's raining quite heavily outside. I
Starting point is 01:32:07 think I'll sleep out there tonight. I think I think it's the his cover of Beatles with a little help from my friends. I think it's one of his iconic ones from Woodstock. One of those, one, you know, I'd love to do a mix of covers that are better than the originals. I reckon that would fit the bill. I hate that song. And I hate it because they... Or I don't necessarily hate it, but on an episode of Sesame Street. It was a dog looking for his bone, and he could not find it anywhere.
Starting point is 01:32:44 But his friends came and I can't find it anywhere, but he's friends came Yeah, well it's another thing Jim Henson company is ruined Well, another song that's ruined by a Sesame Street for me is material girl because they had a young girl puppet who Had cereal for breakfast. She was a cereal girl. That's good stuff. I did. Come on, that's good stuff. Here we go, it was in the news as hip to be square as well. And it was about the shape, square.
Starting point is 01:33:19 Sesame Street, you have so much to add, so far. Hey, that does bring us everyone's favorite section of the show, the Patreon section, which kicks off with the fact-quadal question section, which has a jingle, I think, that goes like this. Fact-quadal question. It always remembers the ding. The way to get involved with this is if you join up on patreon.patron.com such do go on pod, and you sign up on the Sydney Shionberg Luxem Memorial
Starting point is 01:33:46 edition level and you then get one you sign up there's a link you get and you get to give the factor a question if you're on that level and yeah this sounds confusing to you send me a message on patreon and I'll sort you out but I think it seems to be running pretty smoothly now. And I read out a few each week, and I read them out first time on the podcast, so please bear with me. The first one comes from Drew Fawzberg, and he's given himself the title. Everyone gets to give themselves a title
Starting point is 01:34:19 as well as ask a fact, telequote, or say a question. And Drew's given himself the title of official NBL, most efficient player award nominee. Please do not factor. Oh, wow. OK, well, unless you're Andrew Gays going under a pseudonym, that would be amazing. True.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Imagine Gaysie, listen, I love you. We love you, Gaysie. Oh, if I sit on the podcast yet that I interviewed him, that's going to come out in a month or so on the Super Doll channel. He was so fun to interview the best, just such a lovely fun guy. All the interviews I've done for that series have been brilliant. Well, I enjoyed them. I don't know how brilliant they'll be to watch me fumble around interviews with my heroes. Well, who's editing them? Is it Evan Munn? Yeah, yeah, Emma and Evan, it's super old, a handling the edit. So then it will be brilliant. I have not had the balls to watch it yet. It's just like, what a nightmare watching yourself
Starting point is 01:35:18 be awkward around heroes, but hopefully a bit of fun for others. Anyway, Drew Fawzberg is asking a question, and it goes like this. Not sure if this counts as cheating, but what are your favourite games of the following three types? Physical, tabletop and videographic. Oh, okay. I'm confused so far. I'm confused so far. Is that this one?
Starting point is 01:35:43 It can be childhood or current. I apologize if there's a rehash, but I was hoping to create a fun discussion out of it. I seem to have a knack of being an underwhelming fat quota question contributor and wish to do better for you all. Also, the first syllable in my last sentence pronounced falls, not force,
Starting point is 01:36:02 Drew Fawesberg, sorry Drew, and thank you for leaving that right to the end, just ensuring that I got it wrong again. Okay, so that's the way to do it. So favorite physical game, tabletop, so I'm guessing is like a board game or a card game or something like that. And I should say Drew,
Starting point is 01:36:21 I have not found you to be underwhelming at all in the past. Absolutely, no, no, this is a great question. It really is. I was just a bit confused by it as well. I still am, so I'm going to let you guys go first and I'll jump in. Well, I was still clarifying it. So, physical game, a tabletop game or video game. Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:39 So, one of each, I should say, yeah. So, you go around the circle for each category, man. Okay. So, what's a physical game, man? Is that like 4040? I think that's like kids going to like sport, maybe. Okay. And is it to play or what?
Starting point is 01:36:51 Well, I'll give you, I'll give you one of H favorite sport basketball to play, to watch maybe, maybe basketball, maybe rugby union. Yeah, I love it. Real. Seriously? Yeah, I love what, I get very into the, I love the wallabies. That's beautiful. Love them.
Starting point is 01:37:07 I'm actually giving the crowd. It's fun. I do the line out. The gigantic men lifting each other up. It's beautiful. I love it. That's so nice. It's my favorite bit.
Starting point is 01:37:17 It's so graceful. It's hard supporting the wallabies. I mean, I say that being a saint supporter in AFL, but the heart, they have been, you know, we're so close to the best team in the world here, like geographically in New Zealand. Yeah, that's right. To be fair, I haven't really followed them for a couple of years, but I do very much enjoy watching
Starting point is 01:37:36 like the world. Yeah, it's so fun. I love any big world cup, the cricket, the soccer, I love all that. Lot of fun. But then like kids game, maybe hide and seek or what's the time Mr. Good? Oh, that's a good one. I can't remember how that works, but that rings a bell as being fun.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Yeah, murder in the dark. Whichever iteration you play. No one remembers how to play. Everyone's got a different one. Card game or like tabletop game. My favorite card game is 500. Oh, I need to love it. A lot of fun playing that with my folks. A bit hadn't played for a really long time and then when I went over for dinner recently and I saw their pack of 500 I was like, let's do this. And then obviously there's the traditional three hours of trying to
Starting point is 01:38:23 explain it to a new player who doesn't get it and it's very confusing But I love it and if you're gonna play it with my parents, you've got to always be on dad's team because he Give zero fucks. He makes very big calls and backs himself and usually pulls it off. Yeah, good for him. Well done John. Yeah And then video game. Oh, the sims. That's an easy one. Okay. That's a good one. How about you, Matthew? I want to get this podcast over and done with so I can go play some good. So nice. Hey, John, you let's go go by category. You go, what's your physical? Physically, we're doing sport to play. It would be, I really like to tennis growing up, especially. And to watch, it's probably tennis as well. Yeah, right. Yeah, tennis.
Starting point is 01:39:05 I love watching. I grew up the Aussie Open time of year. I love it. The start of the year when it's summer. I like that time of year, but I find tennis pretty boring to watch. I like playing it. I like it. The late game, they're playing to like midnight, but it's hot. So you're not going to bed anyway.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Yeah. I love it. Yeah. As I was going to say, it was the first time I went to the tennis this year, went for a day with my mum. I'd never been before. I'd watched it a lot, but I got to go. I used to go in the school holidays for the Australian Open. I get a day pass for the, what do you, like the outer courts pass? You just wander around.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Ground pass. Ground pass. Ground pass. Which I prefer to then sitting on Santa Courtork just watching one game after the other. I like wandering around and seeing the tiny games where there's like 20 seats around a court. And you can see these little unknown players. That was that was fun.
Starting point is 01:39:55 And they're still the best player you've ever seen. Yeah. Yeah. I was playing back then. I was one of the sports I played played probably the most as a kid. I did try them all, but I think to play these days as an old man, probably golf is my favorite to play just because I see only sport I've really played. Like I've been kicking the footier out a bit, which is fun, but it's not really sport. But to watch is definitely AFL or Aussie rules. And but I've been watching a bit of cricket the English summer.
Starting point is 01:40:27 I've been watching I really enjoyed watching them play the West Indies monthbacks, especially the first test when the windies were competitive. They got less competitive as it went on. But anyway, yeah, but to play probably go off to watch probably Aussie rules and say. And then the next one Dave was table top. I love card games as well, like this. I haven't played 500 in years. So it'll take me a little bit to pick it back up,
Starting point is 01:40:54 but my family used to play it a lot, which I love. And in terms of like board game top thing, I also haven't played in years now, because no one I know knows how to play, but I used to play a lot of Marjon, the Chinese game. Oh yeah. I used to play that on the computer a fair bit. Did you play, so there's like two versions, there's the one where it's like we have to match
Starting point is 01:41:15 the tiles and there's also the one we have to, it's like a, it's basically a card game but with tiles and you have to make suits and pairs and you compete against three other players. Pretty confident I was just matching. Yes. I thought this is fun. I've had that a few times. A lot of my songs.
Starting point is 01:41:31 I've had it a few times. I'm like, oh, I see I can play my song and then it's the other one. So yeah. But you should play that. And then when I went to China many years ago, I played and bought a set there and it was just really, really fun. But I need to find people that know how to play it because I I only knew because I used to go out with a girl whose family We're really into it so I'm happy with them. I've ever played as well
Starting point is 01:41:49 And he said a date someone whose family played and we played on there like their family holidays Yeah, great fun. Love it. And the tiles are so cool like you know, yes, they look great Don't know little things smooth and like colorful. Yeah, great yeah I think my for table top if that's like board games right as well yeah yeah I think trivial pursuit bit of eclastic that's probably my favorite on a play and the other one I enjoy although I haven't played in ages is ultimate bolder dash oh yeah that's farm so it's like five different categories and you got to everyone has to make up a thing so it's either a date or an acronym or a word and so the words like an obscure word everyone goes around and writes down a fake
Starting point is 01:42:34 Definition for that word and then whoever's turn it is reads them all out and everyone has to guess what the real Meaning of the word is or what that date is actually famous for or What the anagram actually stands for or whatever. So it's just a bull as a bullshitting game which, funnily enough, I enjoy a bit but yeah, like I said, I haven't played it in quite a while. And then the last one Dave, this one's hard for me, the videographic game. For me, there's a tie between I loved Tony Hawk, Prosecator 2 or 3, and then also, absolutely loved Pokemon on the Game Boy. So good.
Starting point is 01:43:10 So good. I think I'm going to have to go with probably old school Mario just running left to right, headbriding bricks, getting mushrooms and whatnot. I was confident you were going to say pong. I hope pong. I don't mind pong. I actually remember when I came out. I used to play this game when I was quite little and it would have been on friends
Starting point is 01:43:35 computers. It was called Commander Keen, I think. And there was a game inside that game where you could play pong. And it was it is fun. Commander Kim was also fun. I was left to right sort of world game. Donkey Kong Country was another one I played a lot as a kid and Battle Toads was another favorite. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Fun stuff. Yeah, I'm like, like, of the age where I like going left to right. Or I think I'm actually probably even too young for a lot of those games, but because we got an out of date console when everyone else was playing 64 and moving forwards. We were still playing super Nintendo, but I know it actually But it means that that's just like because I haven't really played much since then. That's what I still prefer to play I know that's a good question. Drew. Jesus. You got some mileage out of that. It feels like we've been talking for about half an hour.
Starting point is 01:44:25 That might be our longest ever fact, quite a question. Thank you for that, Drew. The next one comes from Sir Edge, Paris, who's given himself the title of reserve bartender of the Triptage Club on probation after drinking more than making. He's also asking question and Sir Arge's question is, as we're living in an increasingly complex socio-political climate and considering the multitude of factors at play in dealing with the COVID situation, have you recently re-watched any TV shows or cave paintings from when you were a kid and did they hold up or hang on. I think that cave painting might have been a direct hit of me.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Got him, yeah. What have I been watching? I've been watching The West Wing, which isn't a rewatch, even though it is 20 years old. It's my first time watching. You've probably overtaken me now. I've sort of stopped to slow it a little bit on that. Yeah, I think it's 2002 where I'm watching. I guess third season maybe. Yeah, yeah. I'm sort of, I'm into it and I'm not. It's a tricky show.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Some of the stuff is so like, sappy that it's hard to watch almost. Yeah. And the aren't, you can see the writing sometimes too much. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think it's a very good show, but I think maybe just at the moment, I'm just looking for easier things to watch.
Starting point is 01:45:52 I want just something kind of dumb that I can just let wash over me. And I feel like that is what the West Wing's doing for me. It just feels pretty dumb. Yeah, great. Dave, what are you watching? I've been really watching a lot of action movies. Yes. And my favorite movie is as a teen, Terminator 2 definitely holds up. Oh, cool. Check it out. That's good.
Starting point is 01:46:16 You guys haven't seen it, have you? I don't think so. I think I've seen parts of it. Is that the one where he gets frozen and keeps walking? Yes, that is Terminator 2. Yep. Great film. So good. So good. Give it a watch. My plan for this week's, well, okay, so when this comes out, it's Wednesday, so it's my birthday, my plan is to just watch a van just like this. Cool. Yeah, that'll be interesting. I bet you they don't hold up that well, but maybe they do. I think when you just, when you just blindly love something, you forgive it of all of its shittiness. Oh, that's nice. You know, that's the hope, isn't it? Yeah. I think the thing that I have just started rewatching, which isn't
Starting point is 01:47:00 was only from a couple of years ago, is the U is the umbrella Academy Doing a short season of recaps for Primates at the moment and two episodes in and I already think That it has held up it's looking really good on so watching that leading up to then watching the second season Which is now out as well? Evan and I going through them all so that has also been good. Check that out on Prime Mate's channel. Thank you so much for that question, Saraj. Now, Fahad Al Thani has given himself the title of Senior Executive, doing what I want. Love that.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Good for you. That's a good title. Go get it. And the question is, if you would have to describe a Straler in one word, how would you describe it? Straler in one word, thought to describe anything in one word. Big. Oh, that's good. Yeah, you can't argue with that. It's big. And we have lots of big things. So it works on a couple of levels, you know. The big banana.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Damn, that's good. Okay. Okay. What about hot? Hot. Hot. Yep. Again, both ways.
Starting point is 01:48:19 Very sexy as well. Oh, yes. Hot balls. Hot balls. Hot balls. Hot balls. Hot balls. Hot bottles. Hot bottles. Hot bottles. Hot bottles. It was implied but yeah. Oh yeah. Okay. I'm gonna say wide. Oh yeah. So if we recap it's big hot and white. What are we describing? Are we writing a new national anthem right now? right now. It's a bit hard and wide, come inside. We are Australia. Oh, don't stop it. And that's just the first verse. We are Australia. Thank you so much for that question. We haven't
Starting point is 01:48:59 spent anywhere near as much time on your topics. So you'll already know this for hard, but I'm giving you, I've just Googled your name. It means Panther. Okay, I'm sure you're already aware of that, but that's a fun fact it's hatched. You're welcome. So Pantera could have been called for hard. If they went with the Arabic version,
Starting point is 01:49:22 they would have gone for, for heart, which is a cool metal name as well. Love it. Yeah. That's probably a really good metal name, isn't it? For heart. And finally this week, the last factor quote or question comes from Paul McNally, who's given himself
Starting point is 01:49:38 the title of Head of Diagnostics. And as context here writes, I work as a radiographer, mainly with X-ray and MRI. So anatomical diagnostics are grand with me. I feel like branching out, TV fucked. I'll tell you why, dog sick, no worries. Problem with government's policy, 100% can tell you why.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Not gonna help yourself, though. Oh, felt so promising early, but in the end. Right. I wish that you'd x-ray those bloody clowns up in Parliament House. Chuck them in the MRI, see what they're really thinking about. Yeah, it's clowns up on Capitol Hill. Okay, so this is a fact from Paul, and it is long looking, but I reckon it's just within the word limit. Here we go. The Soviet Union was founded basically to promote workers taking over the workplace,
Starting point is 01:50:33 up to and including the country, but other mini-Soviet sprung up around that time. The very first was a Soviet state, set up in a town about 10 minutes dry from where I live, the Monahan Soviet. It was founded in asylum to protest against the 95 plus hour weeks that staff had to endure. The red flag of communism was raised above the building. It was set up in February 1919 and lasted 12 days.
Starting point is 01:51:01 The workers won a 56 hour working week. The right for married staff to go home after your shift ended. Apparently the boss could just keep the gate shut before them. The pay rise and an equal pay of women doing the same work. That's the fact and then he's got a side note. I know vaguely of this topic but not much about it. Then I looked into the location and saw it was held in the mental hospital and my late father used to work in. When they commissioned a new building to replace the old ward blocks, my dad was going to be the head of this new facility and was allowed
Starting point is 01:51:36 to pick the colours for the paint on the walls and he picked some bright communist red. I thought it was strange at the time as a 10-year-old, but now as a 32-year-old, I get the joke. Viva la Revalluchion! That was a very interesting fact. I don't think I fully took it all in because I was reading it at the same time, but yeah. That sounds wild. I just want to very quickly find out what Paul means because that's my dad's name as well It is not as good. Well, what I took away from that just quickly is that he said that married workers were allowed to leave single people locked in And then you can't so Paul doesn't make panther for you at small
Starting point is 01:52:21 And then you can't. So Paul doesn't make panther for you at small. Small panther. From the Roman family name, Paulus, which meant small or humble in Latin. Humbles, I guess. I guess. Small. I mean, there's not going to be small either, I guess,
Starting point is 01:52:36 but depends on what it's about. And you know, so I was a matter of sort of stuff. We know that. That's what small people say, yep. That's the end of the fact that you're all up for questions. Four crackers, that was a real high quality. The other thing we like to do is thank a few patrons who are on the shout out level, which I believe is the DB Cooper level, Dave.
Starting point is 01:53:07 Yeah, you can work it out of you go on Patreon, you work it out. There are no triptych club members inducted this week, so we're just doing the a few shout outs, each. Page out shout outs. I'll take it off, is that okay with you all? Oh yes, how are we thanking them?
Starting point is 01:53:23 Oh yes, Jess, you know I'm gonna come up with a little thing for us to do. I think for this week we will assign what they're doing at your store. Oh, great. Fantastic. I love that very much. All right, so we're kicking off first from Zephyr Hills. Zephyr Hills, I think it is.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Zephyr Hills in Florida, United States. Albert Favre. Albert Favre is... Um, he is... just wandering around, just checking on everyone. He's got a little first aid kit. Oh, that's great. And he's just...
Starting point is 01:54:03 I'm making sure everyone's all right. So having a great time, still enjoying, but just sort of, you know, just looking out for everybody. He's got a little clipboard. He's got a clipboard and a little first aid kit and when someone goes, I got an houry, he put a bandaid on, he gives it a claim, put a bandaid on, I mean, they're just going to get muddy again anyway. But yeah, and then he's like, you okay? And they're like, yeah, I'm all good, thanks, Elbow. That actually sounds very much to the vibe. It seems like just a small and he's like, you okay? And they're like, yeah, I'm all good, thanks, El, but I've been in here. Hey, that sounds a lot,
Starting point is 01:54:25 that actually sounds very much to the vibe. It seems like just a small task of all the things that I could have assigned, well, it seems like I've gone for something a little bit dumb, but, you know, just in the sense of like a human connection, it's, it's a big, small, I've just looked up a pronunciation website as well, and it says, I should have said Albert Favour.
Starting point is 01:54:46 Favour? Yeah, that looks right, I guess. Thank you so much, Albert, you legend, doing God's work there. I'd also love to thank from Oxnard in California, United States, Brian Stafford. Brian. Oxnard, that sounds bloody bad, yes.
Starting point is 01:55:01 And Brian is so bad, I said, he's in charge of the Woodstock suggestion box. Oh, love that. But a feedback. Yes, he's like out there. Hey, I didn't want to get any suggestions. Put in the boxes completely anonymous. We're not gonna like a people are writing in like get some toilets or some adequate food. He's like, okay, yes, great. Thank you. Thank you. We're gobbling all up. All up. Music to stop at midnight, you know? Okay thank you for gobbling all up the stairs. Maybe next year, music should stop at midnight. Oh, okay, you want some sleep at some point. I have no 20 mile traffic jams.
Starting point is 01:55:31 All right, man, I can't do everything. That is him. Imagine being that guy and having to be like, oh, great, yeah, we'll take that on board. We'll see what we can do. Shit. Shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:43 You seem like we haven't really done anything right. He's like, I do not have that power. I cannot do that. Yeah, but I'll pass it up the chain, I guess. I'm just so much to do in that Brian. Great work once again. Now from Austin, Texas, stay weird. Whatever the motto is,
Starting point is 01:55:58 Alec Ruiz Guero. Guerero. Alec. Alec Ruiz. Where are you? I think what Alec will do is he will just to check it on everyone's tent, putting up ability. So he'll go around and just make sure they're all structurally sound.
Starting point is 01:56:21 Oh, so there's a tent checker. Tent checker. Exactly. Love that. very important job. Because we need shelter for all that sleep we're going to get. And he goes around, he's got spare pegs, he's got spare stick things. Oh. And he just knows how to, sometimes you just need someone who knows
Starting point is 01:56:36 that I put up a tent. I do. Every time I'm putting up my stupid pop-up tent, which is, was a purchase to make it easier. Yeah. They're never like that. They're not. No, it's never just give it a flick and it does it itself, you know, it's never just flick the big And you've got a tent that's what they should on an actual flick the big tent Organ big well once the tent goes up. I'm flicking a big big time. Thank you Alec that geez So practical this week everyone's doing really good jobs.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Loving it. Dave, do you want to thank some people? Yes, I'd like to thank from Suva in Fiji, the couple of Fiji. There you go. Awesome. That's freaking cool. David Cullen. David Cullen, of course, Fiji famously has the bananas on the flag. I think David is in charge of course, Fiji famously has the bananas on the flag. I think David is in charge of the acid-based bananas. And now the very practical job. Yeah. Taking sure people eat the acid bananas before they go brown.
Starting point is 01:57:35 Getting them right in that sweet spot. Yes. What acid bananas? Yummy. Very good. You'll have a wonderful trip. And get some potassium. That's a big job because yeah, a lot of people half a million bananas check. I assume there's one banana for every attendee. Yeah, exactly. It's part of the ticket price
Starting point is 01:57:55 which a lot of people didn't even pay. So they get a banana. I told you they lost a lot of money mainly through bananas. One a day or you just get one banana, make it last. You make it last. Oh, okay. It's a big one, really big banana. Really? The biggest one you have the same. You probably couldn't get through it in one go.
Starting point is 01:58:15 No, I could, yeah, good luck getting through it. And that's a banana in one go. Come on, Matt. You just made a fool of yourself. What am I thinking? I feel foolish. Can we edit that out please? I don't want to look a fool of himself. What am I thinking? What are I doing? I feel foolish. I can't believe that I have plays. I don't want to look a fool. So thanks David from Fiji.
Starting point is 01:58:31 Have freaking cool. Is that our first patron suborder from Fiji? It might be. Yeah. Love it. Now from, a little bit closer to home from Carlton here in Victoria. A little bit closer to home. A little bit.
Starting point is 01:58:42 Ebony at Marja. Ebony, Ebony in Kosovoi. Oh cool, awesome. Can I belong? Yeah. Well, the awesome. Well, thanks for supporting the show, Ebony, and Matt, what is Ebony in charge of at the Woodstock 1960s? Well, being from Carlton, obviously, Ebony will be in charge of the coffee and making sure that the coffee quality is right. Is it just Perkins levels? Oh, Abani, you'll be seeing a lot of them.
Starting point is 01:59:12 Are you interested in coming to the festival, and have you heard that? If there's coffee. Yeah. Yeah, I'd be mad at people again. If I knew there was food trucks and stuff, I'd fucking love food trucks. Coffee, quality checked by a cult local. She doesn't have to make it or anything. She just has to go around and have a sip out of everyone's coffee.
Starting point is 01:59:30 And go, yeah, that one's all. She just tips it out. You should take that back. Yeah, you should go get them to do it. You another one, that's no good. Don't accept terrible coffee, so it says the notation. She got a clipboard as well. Love that.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Yeah, everyone's got a clipboard. All these jobs have clipboards. Of course. I would also like to think so thanks to everyone who lost it, I'd like to thank, now we know this guy from Kinross, Western Australia, the Simpsons expert of the show, Jacob Lane. Jacob Lane. Jacob Lane.
Starting point is 02:00:02 I mean, we know what his strengths are. Do we play to those? Well, I think that maybe maybe if we are playing to the strengths that can pull that off. Assistant to Wavy gravy. As far as I know, Wavy gravy looks like Mr. Burns with a wig. And then he has that puff of his that he just pops and then it turns into a lot of his needs of jumps in the swims away. So good. Is that you, Don David, is that my turn?
Starting point is 02:00:43 Yes, I did. So thank you, those are the three people I'd like to thank, David, Ebony and Jacob. And I thanked Alec, Brian and Albert. Yeah, great. Bringing it home, I would love to thank from the ACT in Yara Lomla. The clients of Capitol Hill up there. I'd love to thank Kristen Barrett.
Starting point is 02:01:04 Thanks. Kristen Barrett. Thanks. Kristen Barrett from the ACT, Jess. What kind of skills would she have up there? Kristen is actually running an arts and craft stall. Oh, nice. So you can go and you can make your own flower crown to wear or just do some coloring in. You can do nude painting if you want to. Why, you're nude? I'm nude or you can be nude whatever. You can do nude painting if you want to. Or you can be nude, whatever.
Starting point is 02:01:28 You can paint with your nipples. But yeah, running it, running a really lovely, inclusive and welcoming. Moves. Yes, I see. Which is doing really well. I'm surprised. She's done it.
Starting point is 02:01:42 She's done it. Yes. Your face is unlawly. Thank you so much, Kristen. I'd also love to thank again from the ACT, my goodness. From this time from McK, I'd love to thank Alex Parma. Oh, Alex, Alex is actually in charge of the skinny dipping pond. Alex is the lifeguard. In charge of it. Lifeguard, but also in charge of making sure that no one's skinny dipping in disgusting clothes. Yeah, get him out. So, I can see you've got a little dream on. I don't think I can't say it because it's flesh coloured. Yeah, I wasn't born yesterday, mate. Take it off. I work on less experienced lifeguards, slash skinny-dipping supervises. All these guys are volunteering and working, but at the end of the day, they are also
Starting point is 02:02:38 playing a super group that I think we should name at the end as well. So I think we've got one more to thank here. Alex Palmer doing God's work there and make sure everyone's nude. Amazing. And finally, from Gulfport, MS, Mrs. Mrs. Cippy. Gulfport, Mrs. Cippy, I'd love to thank Travis,
Starting point is 02:03:02 Alexander. That's the lover of big monsters. Oh, that's right, the kanji. Kaju. Kaju. What, how can we work Kaju into a woodstock job? Well, I mean, every festival's gotta have someone who's like on the non-existent gate,
Starting point is 02:03:16 making sure Godzilla doesn't come and attack the festival. He's keeping Godzilla out. Yeah, he's keeping Godzilla at bay. And by all reports, Godzilla can stand in a nearby field at least. But I'm sorry, mate. It's just a bit risky if you come here, okay?
Starting point is 02:03:34 Really, it's no Godzilla's. You can, we've got one. Oh, okay, good. Only one card you, no card you. First, your best dress. So we've got an area for all, if Godzilla's in, it's sorry. Mothra you're over there.
Starting point is 02:03:47 I'm not trying to fly in. No. No man obviously in a section side of stage. It's a confusing system. Travis will explain it to you in the lead up. All right. So we've got Travis Alex, Kristen, Jacob, Ebony, David, Alec, Brian and Albert. What's their band called Jess? What's one of these 1969 kind of silly? Maybe we'll do two words each. Yeah, great. The first one's the, the last one's band. We can play in the middle. Okay, yeah. Okay. Okay. The dirty funk. Acid orchestra.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Feltching pond. Band. Band. That sounds a bit too much. Well, I reckon I love it. I reckon they're gonna be a hit. With no inductees into the trip ditch club, this week that means we've got no
Starting point is 02:04:45 more Patreon business to do. Fantastic. Well, if you want to get involved, you want to get the bonus episodes. We're putting out three a month these days, access to pre-sales for our live streams and discounts or that sort of stuff to get in the Facebook group. A lot of fun things to get involved with. Just go to patreon.com slash do. Go on, Paul. And we're working on a new website at the moment. So hopefully we'll have that to unveil to you all before too long. It'll be at the same address. Yeah. A little snake peak there. Yeah, you might have to memorize a different website. Thanks for listening all the way to the end. I do love people who listen to the the sealed section at the end even more than the the others. But, you know, there's no pressure as well.
Starting point is 02:05:26 If you've listened through to it and you're like, ugh, it's bitter, the end got us too long. There is no pressure. Next summer, feel free to stop at any point. I love you. It's all the same. And if you're doing it just for my love, I mean, I love you even more, okay?
Starting point is 02:05:41 That's a vicious cycle. Or a friendly cycle. Jess, as it is your birthday, happy birthday to you. Welcome to the post-30s club. Now, I think it should be your honor to boot this baby home this week. Okay, great. How does Dave do this? Dave, give me, what do you usually say? I don't know. Cause I feel like we've done like the plugs a bit.
Starting point is 02:06:11 Yeah, but like, I don't know, all person like you just doesn't get it anymore. So it's gonna be hard to explain. I'm still young and cool. All right, here we go. But make sure you subscribe to our podcast and follow us on all the social media. Is that do go on pod, you can email us at do go on pod.gmail.com.
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