Do Go On - 254 - The Sugarbird Lady

Episode Date: September 2, 2020

No, she's not a comic book hero or a woman who delivers birds and sugar. But Robin Miller is an Australian legend, and one that not many Aussies know about! This is the story of the incredible life of Robin Miller; The Sugarbird lady.Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodCheck out our web series: https://www.youtube.com/user/stupidoldchannel Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/dicks-robin-elizabeth-10016http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/miller-horatio-clive-horrie-7586https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Miller_(nurse)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_Puff_Derby_(1947)https://www.flyingdoctor.org.au/news/sugar-bird-lady/https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-08/robin-miller-the-sugar-bird-lady/7010418https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/history-culture/2018/12/the-sugar-bird-lady/https://www.monumentaustralia.org.au/themes/people/medicine/display/93353-robin-miller-dickshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Air_Derby

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To come to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnocky and as always I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Hello Dave, hello Jess. Hello Matt. Hello Dave. What a pleasure to be here. Making your acquaintance today. Matt, we've known each other for years.

Oh, am I using that phrase wrong? I think so, but I could be wrong. It's pleasure to reacquaint with you. No, Matt, I talked to you two days ago. Oh, yeah. I thought you looked familiar. How's everyone going? Now, Jess and Dave, you're both 30.

You've turned 30 since. Well, Jess, you turned 30 as the last week's episode came out. Dave, you've turned 30 since. How does it feel? I feel old. You feel old. You look like shit. Yeah.

I've really taken a downward step. here. So when I was a kid, and I probably told this at some stage, but when I was very small, I used to wake up on my birthday and look at my feet because I thought I would have grown, right? Because I was like, well, a five-year-old is bigger than a four-year-old, obviously. I didn't understand how gradual growth was. And I feel like, Dave, you've kind of, you've done exactly that. You know, you've gone from 29, gorgeous, young, fit, healthy, you know, probably looking the best you've ever looked. And now 30, my God, you do not look well. Oh, I look down at my feet and they look like shit. Yeah, they're like wrinkly and great. They've changed. I had a look at the painting in

your attic though, Dave. It is looking hot. Thank you. Thank you. Don't tell anyone about that. I don't want to get stabbed. Hey, Dave, as it is your birthday week, how about you do the honors? Now as a 30-year-old, I think you're finally ready to take the reins and explain how this show works. Trust. Here we go. Well, if you haven't heard the show before, or you need a little refresher, what we do here is we take it in turns to report on a topic, often suggested by a listener. And whoever's designated to be the report giver, they go away, do a bit of research. They bring back that research and present it to the other two who have no idea what they're about to talk about. And to get on the topic, we start with a question. And Jess, it's your

turn to ask a question. And now you're 30. Have you remembered to actually write one? No. As you were talking, I was like, oh no. I was looking at my report and I thought, I knew I forgot something. You know, I was putting the finishing touches on this report like an hour and a half ago. And then I was like, look at me. I'm ready. I've got time to go have some lunch.

And I forgot to write a question. You've deep dived into anyway. So you've been swimming in it. So you can come up with a question for it really quickly. And I think you've done that now. So what is this week's question? Who was known as the sugarbird lady? So is that pronounced sugar bowl lady?

Oh, Dave, we know you don't know what a sugar bowl is, but surely you know what a sugar bird is. Angela Lansberry? No. I mean, you said that with semi-confidence, so I was like, maybe this is right. I don't think we're going to get this one, Jess. No, and this isn't one that I knew of either.

And it actually hasn't been suggested by any. patrons. But I discovered this story when scrolling through Facebook and saw a TikTok video about this topic. And I thought, that sounds interesting. And I did a little Google and here we are. Is this some sort of dance number then? It's not a dance number. Well, yeah, the Sugarbird Lady gives, it could even be like a spy kind of story, couldn't it? Do you have any early ideas of what about like where it's set, for example? It sounds like a World War II French thing to me. Okay.

So what's it, what's her name in? Sugar what? Sugar, bird lady. Sugar bird lady. In my head it was going to be something like she was just a kook from a neighborhood. And she, you know, she'd walk around. She'd have birds all over and sugar as well. She'd be, she'd go, sugar for a bird.

And then she'd either swap you sugar for a bird or bird for a sugar. She'd do it both ways. She had both. She's a sugar bird lady. She's the buy-swap cell of sugar birds. Yeah. No, of sugar and birds. Sugar and birds.

Sorry, yeah. Yeah, either. That's fine. We pay cash for sugar and birds for sugar. Well, we pay sugar for birds and birds for sugar. It's a weird system. Do you reckon they'd still swap birds for birds? Like, if you had, I'll give you three small birds for that big bird.

Oh, she will make a deal. If the deal is in her favour, she'll make any deal. Yeah, great. What about sugar? for sugar. That seems pointless, doesn't it? Well, it would seem pointless if the only deal she'd make is

either equal amounts of sugar if she's getting a better quality of sugar or if it's the same quality of sugar, she'll take more sugar off your hand. So it would only work if you were trying to get rid of some sugar. Well, I mean, we've built a rich tapestry, but unfortunately none of that is even vaguely close.

Oh, come on. This is the story of the sugarbird lady whose real name was Robin Elizabeth Miller. Her name is a bird, yeah. Yeah, I know, it works. She was born on the 8th of December in 1940 in Western Australia. A bit of background. I was definitely picturing the sugar bird lady to be a cockney Englishman woman.

Women can be Englishman too. She's very different to that. Swap your bird for some sugar, me love. Oh, me lovely. You want to get a big sugar for bird or bad. How did you move your mouth to the side of your face? That was... It was like the exorcist.

But it was also beautiful, don't you think, Dave? The sexy exorcist. Terrifying. My mouth moved away all the way around my head, but my head didn't move. Like the exorcist. Anyway, a bit of background to start with on her very impressive parents. So her mother was Dame Mary Jurac, who's an author and historian known for writing the Australian classic.

Kings in Grass Castles. Why, have you heard of Kings and Grass Castles? No. No. They shouldn't throw grass stones though. No. That doesn't quite work, does it? They should not.

But I had to write in that it was an Australian classic because when I looked up the book, it was like, oh, it's an absolute classic. And I was like, yeah, of course, we all know her work. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, sorry. So did you say grass castles? Day Mary Jurek. Yeah, yeah.

I'm on board. I remember it from my childhood. So Mary, her mother was born in Adelaide, but grew up on cattle stations in the Kimberley region of Western Australia. And from a young age, she and her siblings were in charge of running the cattle stations. And Mary learnt from the local Indigenous women everything from how to cook to how to muster cattle. This is in the late 20s and early 30s. So this is, you know, a long time ago. Then she went on to write a hugely popular column in the Western male and wrote several novels,

one of which, keep him to country. she adapted into a one-act opera, which was one of the first of two operas to be given an evening performance at the Sydney Opera House. Oh, wow. This is the Dame. Yeah, this is the Dame. This is Robin's mother Mary.

As soon as you said Dame, I assumed opera. Why are all these opera people end up being dames? Yeah, I don't know. There's got to be dames for other reasons, doesn't there? Yeah. Yeah, there is. I can't think of any. I can only think of Dame Nellie Melba.

Yeah, and there's another opera dame. Famously, an opera singer. There's Dame Mary Gilmore on the $10 note. That's the only one I can think of. So there you go. Was she opera as well? I think she was a writer. Oh, right.

Dame, whatever your name was. Mary Gilmore. Whoop. Yeah. I reckon she probably wrote operas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But she couldn't sing. But she could write. My God, could she write. I've just looked her up. She got her dame ship for, in recognition for leading women in New Australia.

in movement and as a writer of verse, stories and essays. Oh, cool. There you go. I found this page of dames and there's heaps of dames that are for other things. Beryl Bore Repair in recognition of service to women's affairs, for instance. That's a great name. Beryl Bore repair. That's one of my favorites I've ever heard.

That's fantastic. Fantastic. Anyway, yes, so that was Robin's mum, Dame Mary Durek. So what about her dad? Well, his name was Horatio Clive Miller. Wow. I've also seen Horace, but I think it's Horatio. He was known as Horri anyway.

And he was born in Ballarat here in Victoria. He trained as a mechanic, but he had an interest in flying and eventually went to England hoping to break into the aviation industry as it was just starting to boom. And he got a job with Sopwith Aviation Company as a mechanic, and through his role there, he learned to fly. And then World War I broke out and he returned to Australia and trained as a fighter pilot. And, you know, many, many years later, he sort of started his own aviation company.

It was called the McRobinson Miller Aviation Company. They bought three new planes. They had a couple more pilots. And he was the managing director, chief pilot and chief engineer of this company that he created. He was doing everything. He was just putting on a different hat, running out of the back. It's also the company Baker. Honestly, that Google calendar would be a nightmare.

So, yeah, he also opened a flying school in Mount Gambia in South Australia. And he also won a Sydney to Perth Centenary Air Race, which had a prize of £1,000. And this is back 20, like a long time ago. So that's a lot of cash. Yeah, that's one of the longest flights between capital cities in Australia, right? Brisbane and Perth would be the longest, I suppose. So that's, back then, I imagine that would have been a pretty full-on flight. Yeah, huge.

And definitely not the longest flight we're going to talk about. Right. Okay. So it's a plain thing. Sugarbird. Sugar bird. So those are her parents. That's sort of the family that she is born into is some very impressive, ambitious people.

So when Robin was born, her mother's family still had the sheep and cattle stations that had made them very well known in Western Australia. Apparently, they had around 7 million acres. I can't really compute that. Yeah. I'm not entirely sure what an acre is. Is that like a state? Is that like all of Victoria or something? You also have to remember, especially for people not from Australia,

that Western Australia takes up a third of the whole country. It's fucking huge. You know, it's so tiny. Like Australia is the second small, Australia. Victoria is the second smallest, right? And if you look on a map, you have to drive from Melbourne and up until like the top corner where Muldura is, that's like a seven-hour drive.

And then you look at the size of Western Australia. You're like, holy fuck. It's huge. How big did you say, Bob? Because apparently I've just Googled it, the state we live in, Victoria, is 6.359 million hectares. Yeah, no, they had seven million acres. So they had more, they own more than, bigger than Victoria.

No, hectares are bigger than hectares. Right, okay. Yeah, I just said, I just googled how many acres in Victoria, Australia. It says 6.359 million. Right, okay. I just said hectares because my brain's an idiot. The land they own is bigger than Victoria, the state that we live in. That's insane.

Hang on, I think that's the population. You stupid Google. Like, it comes, yeah, no, that's population for sure. I think we can categorically say it's a big bit of land and they're probably extremely wealthy from it, right? Yeah, I would say so, yeah. They're running like several cattle stations. They've got sheep stations. Obviously, she's a very famous and successful rider and also her dad runs an aviation company.

So I think they're doing pretty well. And at the aviation company, he's got like seven jobs. So that's like seven salaries. Yeah, exactly. That's how I assume it works. Yeah. So Robin and her two brothers and three sisters grew up spending time on cattle stations and had a strong connection to northern Western Australia and the indigenous communities there.

Also growing up with a pilot dad, Horri, passed on his love for the air to his daughter Robin. But when she finished high school in Perth, flying was not considered to be an appropriate career for a lady. Oh. Ladies don't fly. What are you talking about? You can't. You get your periods and it's a mess. Oh, no.

You can't fly. What about the flying nun? Exactly. Oh, what does that mean, Dave? Could she be a nun? She changed everything. Do you know the flying nun, the TV show? Yeah, yeah.

With Sally Field? Is that? Yeah. Sally Field was a flying nun? Yeah. Right? Huh. We're all learning today.

That is a... That vaguely rings a bell, but what a wild idea for a TV show. Yes, absolutely. Would it be fair to say that that was from back in the day? Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fair, yeah. So, and this is also back in the day, this is like the early 60s. So this is, you know, options for women were like teacher, maybe admin or nurse.

And that was about it. Aviator, a pilot, no. I mean, why would you, what a silly job for a woman. But if you'd wait, she'd waited to the late 60s, 1967, the flying nun would have taken off literally. And then that would have changed the game, sadly. Yeah, everyone would have been like, well, hang on, if nuns can fly. I guess so too can women.

I'm trying to figure it out. Yeah, doing the maths on a blackboard about it. Yeah, it's very cute. So she trained as a nurse at the Royal Perth Hospital and graduated in 1962 with the state nurse's medical prize. And by 1964, two years later, she was a triple-certificated nurse at Say Dan's Hospital in Perth. I looked this up and I think it's the equivalent of being like a registered nurse

but also having midwifery or psychiatric qualifications. Like a double degree kind of thing, you know? Well, midwifery is a word. Such a good word. Midwifery. So yeah, she's a very qualified and very, she's very good at her job. She's a good nurse. Alongside this, though, with the help of her father,

she also acquired her private pilot license, you know, for smaller aircrafts. And she was encouraged to then go and get her commercial pilots license as well. by a man named Harold Dix, who at the time was the director of the Royal Flying Doctors Service. So I would assume there's similar services in other countries, but the RFDS was established in Australia in 1928. It's medical and emergency assistance for those that live and work in remote Australia. So they've got planes and they'll fly a doctor to you.

Especially when you're growing up on a farm of 7 million acre farm, You probably don't have your local GP around the corner. Right, of course. Yeah, that would be a long way away. Yeah, I mean, it would take a couple of days to cross your own property, you know. Yeah, so she went and got her commercial pilot's license, and yet still despite her qualifications and that her father was the managing director of an airline,

she could not get a job flying because it wasn't seen as appropriate for a woman to be a pilot, but even though she had all the qualifications, she even applied for a role at her father's company and she still wasn't successful. Oh, no. Can't even get nepotism? Come on. Get an interview with your dad.

I'm afraid we're going to go with the other one. Sorry. I'm so sorry. It seems like her dad was very supportive. I mean, he helped her get her first, like her private pilot's license. So I'm guessing she wasn't interviewing with him, but I do like to imagine she was. And he was like, no.

Sorry. Got a dick, yeah? I just, I don't have any evidence that you can fly. I'm sorry, even though I taught you as a small child. They drive home together in the car. It's very awkward. Yeah. All right, fine.

Well, can you take me home? Well, yeah. Imagine that. He's like, start up the plane. I've just got to interview a few more people. I'll be out in a sec. So in order to do what she wanted to do, she was going to have to think outside the box

and make an offer that no one could refuse. Because in 1967, there was a second polio strike that hit Western Australia. So in Australia, there were major polio epidemics in the late 30s, early 40s and the 1950s. And the first vaccine was developed in 1952 by Jonas Salk. It was called the Salk vaccine. And then it was sort of overtaken by another vaccine that was created by Saban and it was an oral vaccine. It was made 10 years later in 1962. And it took over from Salk because it was cheaper to make and easier to administer. And that brings us back to Robin Miller

because although the polio vaccine had been around for more than a decade, distributing it and to the very spread out rural communities in Western Australia's, in the north of Western Australia was providing, was a significant challenge. So, she was a, She approached the Western Australian Department of Health to ask permission to fly to Northern Western Australia in order to carry out a vaccination program. They couldn't argue with her because she had a very unique set of skills. She was a highly qualified nurse and a pilot, so she was a two in one. She was like, I can do it.

I can just fly myself up, give him the vaccine, pop back home. So they agreed. And next she needed a plane. So, I mean, you could probably go to your dad who owns a plane. airline and say, oh, could I borrow a plane? But instead she borrowed money and she bought herself a little Cessna 182 Skylane, which is like a little four-seater light aeroplane. And on the 22nd of May, 1967, Robin Miller took her first flight of many to remote areas in Western Australia. She would have been about 26 at this point. And over the next few years, she covered 43,000 air miles visiting

remote communities. How many acres is that? Let's, a lot, I think, a lot. I've figured out, it's weird that you can't just find out easily how many acres are in Victoria, but I've converted it from a kilometre squared. It looks like it's 58 and a bit million hectare. So they basically, they own a, you know, a little chunk of Victoria. Right. It's still a big area. It's still huge. Yeah, yeah. It's still very big.

Still bigger than our houses. Yeah. I reckon bigger than our houses combined. Nah. I mean, come on. Nah. That's crazy. How big can a cut of station be?

Yeah. How many cows do you actually need? Honestly, that's another thing I've always been very confused by when people say like 10 head of cow. How much is a head? I don't know. I think it's depending on how many heads the cow has. If it's a normal one-headed cow, that's, one head of cow.

That's confusing when you got the double-headed cows. Right. So it could be 10-head of cow, but that's actually only five double-headed cows. Or one 10-headed cow, confusingly. Oh, God, that would be a real mess of a cow. I'm glad that I don't do it in stomachs. Wow, we got 800 stomachs of cow. Yeah, I'm bad at the four times tables.

I was wondering why you'd gone quiet for a bit there. That makes sense, but I'm glad we got to the bottom of it. Yeah. So, yeah. He'd wheeled in his own black. board. You were wondering why the abacus was in the room? Tick, tick, tick.

I just love that sound. I love that. I do love that sound. Oh yeah, it's so soothing. When I was a boy, that's all we had. Do you remember when they invented calculators? Yeah, it was a big day for me. Yeah, wow.

Yeah. And then when they invented those scientific calculators where you could put games on them and play Pinterest or whatever, that was too bad. Too bad I was already well and truly out of school by then, but I didn't need to sneak games in anymore. He went and got yourself a scientific calculator and put some games. Yeah. Head in the shed for a bit.

Oh, yeah. Most people bought Seagas, but you bought a calculator. Baby steps. Yeah, you got it easy in. So anyway, yes, she's covering insane distances just flying by herself. She'd treat children with the Sabin vaccine in sugar lumps because the sugar was used to sort of mask the really bitter taste. Okay.

We're talking real Mary Poppins sort of tactics here. Yeah, it's just given more little lumps of sugar. And she built some really strong relationships with the communities she would visit, which were mostly Aboriginal communities. To her patients throughout the Kimberley and the Pilbara, Robin became the Sugarbird Lady, a name that stuck throughout her entire life. There was a brief break in the middle of this project

because in November of 1967, Harold Dix, who remembers the director of, of the Royal Flying Doctor Service. He asked her to co-pilot a beachcraft baron from Oakland, California, back to Perth for the Royal Flying Doctor's Service. Obviously, they were buying the plane or for some reason. And they're like, can you go and bring it back? So she asked for leave to do that, and they were like, yeah, sure, go for it.

So she took temporary leave from the immunisation project and she undertook what would be the first of nine ferry trips during her career. Another one was in 1968 when she flew solo and brought a single-engined horizon from Paris to Perth. So she's done a lot of long-distance flying, ferrying planes all over the world. Right. But they won't give her the job flying for the company, but you can fly the plane back to the country further than you'd be flying for the company. So someone else can fly it for the company.

Isn't it weird? I think it's kind of because, well, a fair bit of time has passed now as well. So when she finished studying with her nursing, it was like 1962. By the time she's doing this, it's like five years later. Maybe there'd been a bit of a shift. Because of her work, she was being acknowledged as a good pilot. So was there, but was there a big cultural shift in the 60s? I don't know.

I don't know either. I'm guessing. It started with the Flying Nun, 1967, which actually is 1967, the summer of love. That changed everything. No, I was being ironic. there was a big cultural shift in the 60s, wasn't there? Isn't that when everything changed? Black and white TV went to colour?

People grew their hair out long. Women were allowed outside. Everything changed in the 60s. The Saints won a grand final. It was a different world. They were allowed in planes, that's for sure. All the old rules were broken. Yeah, everything changed.

So anyway, she comes back from these ferrying trips. She completes the immunisation program in October of 1969. Nice. Nice. after single-handedly administering over 37,000 doses of vaccine. Single-handedly, my goodness. 37,000 doses. That's amazing.

Yeah. And like we said, flying 43,000 miles, which is 69,000 kilometres. I think you should count them in arms, arms of vaccine, right? 1,600 arms of vaccine needles. But it's not needles. It's sugar. Sugar. Okay, well that, I was wondering how she got the sugar in the needles.

Because that, you know, grains, all these little grains getting coming out the little needle end. That did seem pretty wild to me. This is while you were looking up, hectares. There was a new vaccine that came in that was oral. And it was cheaper to make and easier to distribute because you could just put it in a sugar lump and give it to someone. Yeah, well, I heard that bit. That's how I knew about the sugar. So it was wild that it was.

getting in the down through the needles like that. Yep. Imagine a child is panicking because of a needle because so many kids hate needles, but you're like, don't worry, mate, don't worry. There's sugar in here. You're going to love it. Yeah, don't worry about it. So we had to make the needle really big and wide to fit these,

because we use raw sugar as well, which is the grainiest of all the sugars. Don't worry, starburst flavored. This needle, you're going to love it. We'll give you a lollipop after to shove up your ass. They just hadn't figured it out yet. They just hadn't quite figured out how to... They'll get there eventually. That is incredible.

A 37,000 administered doses. Wow. Yeah, just flying by herself. And so also in 1969, she was awarded a couple of different awards. One is the Diploma of Merit by the... It's an Italian associances, Nationale, Infermary. I'm 1-8th just telling if you want me to have a go at that one.

So you'll know I nailed that. And the following... It took actually, it was just like Nonna used to say. Yeah. I wonder why she didn't go by Nonna. And why she still doesn't because she's still alive. Maybe you should ask her. Yeah, maybe I will.

In 1970s, well, she received the Nancy Bird-Waltern award as Australia's woman pilot of the year. Woman pilot of the year. That's so good. They still award that? I don't know. I'm not sure if that's still going. It's funny.

They do it for acting still. They split it up between men and women. Yeah. You think like I sort of get it with sports because, you know, swimming men are just generally bigger and stronger. But for acting, I don't know if that necessarily helps you out. So I wonder why they don't just go best actor. Yeah.

And I suppose like with sports, you're in different competitions, different leagues. So you're not playing against each other. So it's not really all that comparable. But then, yeah, you're right. Acting, it's like, well, they were in the same movie. I think it would be unfair, though, because Merrill Street would never let a man win again. Yeah.

And the Academy is dominated by old men, as they've told us on the Academy Award episode. Yeah, that's right. They probably just go, hey, we need a man's category. So men's to win some stuff. Yeah, we need something. Men need a win, okay? But yeah, it seems funny that there's a woman's pilot or what. I imagine that's probably defunct now.

I would guess so. I'm not 100% sure. But yeah, that was in 1970, so who knows. I'm also not smart enough to really have an opinion on such a thing, so I don't know why I've been brought it up. No, but it is a bit weird. But I don't know if it's still going on it. There's probably some reason that that makes sense, maybe, is there?

I don't know. Jess, you're the expert on flying. I know. So because she built a unique rapport with the people living in Western Australia's most remote regions. Robin was soon offered a position with the Royal Flying Doctor's Service. Because originally she's doing this immunisation project just by herself for the health department. Now the Royal Flying Doctor Service are like, you should come work for us.

Yeah. That seems like a no-brainer. I'd like to make a margin on this work you're doing. Yeah, exactly. So unlike the majority of her predominantly male colleagues, Robin could do it all. As a pilot and a nurse, she often flew solo and she even serviced her own aircraft. She just did it all. Was it her dad who did every role in his company?

That just runs in the family. Yeah. She's like, I got it. So, yeah, quite often what would happen is you'd have a pilot flying a doctor out and they'd sort of work in tandem. The pilot wouldn't do much of the doctoring, I'll be honest. And the doctor probably wouldn't do a lot of the piloting. They stayed in their lanes, you know.

But Robin sort of does both. But she was also like this glamorous. She's beautiful, very charming. Oh, you hate to hear that. I am. I'm like, I'm already impressed. Surely she's at the very least she's ugly. You know?

I know. Now it's unfair. I hate it when you meet someone who is drop dead gorgeous and lovely and smart. And you're like, fuck you. I'm happy for you to have two of the three. Exactly. You can't have all. You can't have them.

You can be really nice and beautiful and an idiot. Or you can be ugly. and smart, you know, like you just can't have it all, but she did apparently. I think you can. Speaking from personal experience. David, no. Well, I guess you do work in TV. You've probably met a few people like that, don't.

They've got it all. Damn them. So, yeah, this combination of like a glamorous young woman and a life of adventure brought her a lot of attention. And her sister, Patsy, said in an interview. She wanted to be definitely feminine in the flying world, even though she did a lot of heavy work. She pushed the plane in and out, did a lot of her own mechanical work and so on.

But she was good looking and very, very charming to meet. She became extremely well known throughout the North at this time, also for administering treatment for eye diseases. So it's like she's well known because she's gorgeous and so smart and so nice, but also because she's helping, she's saving people as well. In her spare time, she cured blindness. Anyway. She was also a netball chance.

And really good at squash. Best and fairest every year. She also knitted. She had a whole range of knitware that she sold every winter. For charity. And charity. Yeah. Donated it all.

Honestly, she was a pain in the ass. Oh my goodness. So she was always on call and flew in all types of weather, responding to a range of emergencies and coping with difficult or frightened patients. She was tall, fair and elegant. she was conscientious, cheerful and popular. And reacting to those who expected her to don men's clothing, she wore skirts rather than trousers on her flights,

which is funny because you usually hear it the other way around where people are sort of like, well, that lady should be wearing a skirt. And she's like, fuck it, I'm putting it on trousers. In this instance, you would go, pants are probably a bit easier for getting in underneath planes to service them. She's like, no, no, I'll check, oh, I'll wear what I want. And I like that. Yeah, just doing the opposite.

to what people say, no matter what it is they say. Honestly, Sugar Lady, it'd be crazy for you to wear like a space suit. That would make no sense. I'll show you. Oh, really? See you tomorrow at night. Oh, really? That'd be crazy, would it?

That'd be crazy. She can't steer the plane. She's like, I don't care. I'm wearing a spacesuit. I just like just wear whatever the fuck you want to wear. Who cares? Love it. That's what I like.

I don't, yeah. Oh, skirts do sound great, especially as the weather's starting to turn here in Melbourne, it's starting to turn more summary. I think, do I, do I have the balls to wear a skirt? I probably don't quite yet. Honestly, you'll, you'll like it for about 20 seconds, and then you'll get slightly hot, and the chafing will start, and you'll want to kill yourself. With a skirt.

I thought the point of it would be that it would keep you nice. Maybe I'm thinking of like more of a flowy summer dress. Still. Really? They, okay. Well, you've talked me right out of it. Well, because what's in between your legs as you walk then? Nothing. Well, speak to yourself.

It's just chaf. Right, okay. So the pants stop chafing. Yeah, right. Okay, interesting. Well, you've turned me right around. I always assumed it would be a dream. I would absolutely encourage you to give it a go.

It can be quite nice. And do little spins in it. That's fun. That's fun. Do some twirls, yeah. Woo. I'm a recent convert because of the lockdown. I just bought a pair of.

track suit pants. I've now got two. I used to only have the one. So now I can wear them every day. And yeah, I'm starting to wear them out of the house. They normally just be around the house thing. It's absolutely changed my life. I used to wear jeans every day. And I don't know if I will do that ever again. I think I've put jeans on two or three times during this lockdown, probably for our live streams and that might have been about it. And every time I put them on, I was like, what the fuck are these pants? Why do these exist? I can't. breathe. Who invented these? Were you wearing them on your head? Yes. I can't breathe. Yes. Where jeans go.

It's been a while since I've worn these. Is this right? How do I look? If I look stupid. Are they slimming? You're fully nude? I'm below. Is this right? This doesn't feel quite right. I can't put my finger on. It's a bit breezy. A little bit breezy. Anyway, so yeah, she's getting lots of attention and praise because she's good at her job and she's very nice. And in 1971, she followed in her mother's footsteps and she wrote a book, which is an autobiography called Flying Nurse. Ah. Similar to Flying Nurse.

And it gave a very lively account of her career up until that point. This might be one of my favourite stories, which I only found in one article, which was written on LinkedIn, by the CEO of Royal Flying Doctor Services in Westerners. his name is Graham Marshall. And I don't know why this story isn't like the first thing everyone's talking about. Because it says, on one occasion, Robin was flying a pregnant woman when the patient went into labor. She put the plane into autopilot and delivered the baby in the back. No.

Are you serious? Yeah. When mother and baby were both safe and well, she returned to the cockpit and landed the plane, now with three people on board instead of the two that had started the journey. doing it by herself. Normally it would be a pilot flying along. Doctor or nurse would be in the back with the patient. No problem.

Robin is both. So she puts the plane in. And that's the only place I was able to find that story. And I only knew of it because of this TikTok that I saw that told that story. And then I didn't see it in anything I read. And I was like, well, this is madness. Was that TikTok wrong? And then I googled it and this is all I found.

But I had to really search for this story. It feels like, yeah. And that's all I have. I have no other information. I have so many questions. The head of... LinkedIn. Well, I was thinking the head of flying doctor service.

Yeah. Also TikTok. I imagine she did it all wearing some sort of a ball gown as well. Yeah, I would imagine so, yeah. She's on the way back from receiving an Academy Award honorary. And I also, I picture her doing it without being flustered in any way, just sort of like... Oh, absolutely, yes. Oh, Labor.

Well, ideally this would have happened on the ground, but I'll just flick it into all. autopilot. All right, if you're longing to be back now. Let's go deliver a baby. These things happen pretty quickly as a general rule. So I'm sure that it can't be a problem. Tell me about the contractions. What are the gaps or whatever they say? Like she's just riffing. She doesn't even fully know something about contractions. I'll figure this out. She's got a book in one hand. She's taking a sip from her coffee as she's chatting to them.

One hand's got a book called Giving Birth 101. The other hand, a martini. Yeah, midwifery for dummies. She's got in one. I forget she's a nurse. She probably had a handle on it, but... Yeah, I think she did know what to do. She's quite good at being a nurse as well as quite good at being a pilot. Yeah, so really, if anyone was to be in this situation, you'd hope it'd be her. Yeah, honestly, I think she's the perfect person for this job. Do you think she's also doing the pilot's voice? Ladies and gentlemen, I'm just going to have to put this into autopilot or I take care of

something at the back. We have a pregnant woman on board, you see, and I got a little of the baby so I cross-checked, I come indoors, prepare the cabin for the landing and one birth. We, had one birth. Dave, the whole time I was writing this report

not once did it cross my mind that it would open up the opportunity for the captain's voice. So that was a genuine thrill for me. So an opportunity. Had to take it. I love the voice. I love the voice.

She would have been, we've got a pregnant woman on board. That's you. you're the only passenger. So you'll be aware of this anyway. Just wanted to go through the protocols. She's by the book. She's by the book, if nothing else.

If we've got any more babies joining us on this flight, I just want to say, welcome to the world. Yeah, maybe someone cute like that. They love chucking in a cute thing at the end, are they? Yeah. I love it when they say, and if Melbourne's home for you, welcome home. Sometimes, after a lot of time. After a long journey, that gets.

Oh, you start to cry for sure. I was like, that is my home captain. I just hear, I've been to see. And if Australia is home to you, then bloody good-day, good on your champ, welcome home. Have a bloody good froffy and we'll be landing soon. Good-day, cheese. And cheese and good-day. And you're like, good-day.

It's so beautiful. The Australian language. Wallaby kangaroo, cucumber, dingo. What a Puss. Rialto Tower. MCG. John Howard's eyebrows. You know, all the things that make Australians feel really patriotic.

Brian Brown. So, yeah, she's flying for the Royal Flying Doctor Service. She's delivering a baby midair. In 1973, she marries Harold Dix. The director of Royal Flying Doctor Service. Right. And she becomes Robin Miller Dix. Right.

And he was, he gave her one of her first big jobs that she hadn't given herself, right? Flying the plane back home. Yes, that's right. Yeah. And he was the one who, even before that, encouraged her to get a commercial license as well. Oh, that's nice. So he acknowledged early on that she was. It is interesting, Jess, so she couldn't get the pilot job early on

because she didn't have a dick. And now she's got dicks. So it's all coming together for her. Yeah, that's what it takes, you know. You've got to have a dick in this world. So that same year, she and another pilot named Rosemary de Pierre's. Oh my gosh. That's a name.

That's a name. They were sponsored to compete in the 1973 all women's transcontinental air race across the United States. This is a, she just packs so much into a year. So this race has been happening in. some form or another since 1929. The first race happened because in the early days of flying, there were very few women pilots in the United States. And so they became acquainted with one another during air meets and air rodeos and like any kind of events and expos and stuff where everybody would meet, they would all get to know each other. So during the 1929 national air races and

aeronautical expo, they held the first women's air race to qualify. Pilots had to have at least 100 hours of solo flight, which included a minimum 25-hour cross-country flying. These are the same rules that applied to men competing in national air races. And so for the very first race, back in 1929, there were 20 competitors, including Amelia Earhart. I was wondering if she was going to be involved. That's sick.

Yeah, it's wild. There was also an Aussie in that first one named Jesse Miller, no relation. Not to me, to Robin Miller. I honestly, I went straight to you. I was like, every Jess or Jessie, you have to say that just in case. No relation. It is a family name. No relish.

So one of the qualifications was that the aircraft would have to have horsepower appropriate for a woman. This is back in the 20s. One of the aviators, his name was Opel Kunz, her 300 horsepower travel air was deemed to be too fast for a woman to fly, even though she owned it and flew it. So she had to find a less powerful aircraft for the race. It doesn't make, I don't know if you guys would pick this up, but that doesn't make any sense.

It doesn't make any sense. They're like, no, no, no, honey. Oh, sweetheart, no. Is this your husband's plane? Did you accidentally bring the wrong plane? Oh, honey, are you okay? You'd be scared, it'll be powerful, isn't it? I was so dumb.

My initial thought was that when you said that they needed horse, appropriate for a woman. I'm like, the old sexist world, they're like, women aren't fast enough. We need to give them extra horsepower. Because they can't fly fast enough.

How do you think you fly? Do you think they have to pedal or something? No, I just sort of, you know, I mean, I'm just in their old, old sort of outdated minds that that was,

they're like, they don't know how to fly like the big boys. We better give them some extra juice. Obviously, it was the other way around. But then they end up giving him playing that are not powerful enough to actually get off the ground. Yeah, they give them paper planes and they're like, you have fun girls.

That becomes way more dangerous. The early Olympics, they're like going, all right, all right, ladies, you can swim your, you can swim the same distance, but you've got to do it in the paddling pool. Yeah, very cute. You have to run up and down the pool. Don't want you to drown, do we? Oh, no. Yes, anyway, I find that very funny, but they're like, oh no, this plane's,

it's too powerful for you. And she's like, that's my plane. That is one of the... I flew it here. What are you talking about? I'm flying right now. You're a passenger on my plane. I'm flying into this start line.

So the name powder puff derby or derby was, there was this humorist called Will Rogers. He referred to it as the power puff. I'm going to say Derby. Powder puff Derby. And that name kind of stuck. Um, powder puff derby.

I'm not, I don't really get the joke, but. I love it. Oh, it's fun. I know it's fun. Well, no, it's not funny. It's humorous. It was a humorous. It was a humorous.

It's a powder puff like one of those things you'd use for makeup maybe. Oh, that's funny. Now I get it. Now that I get it, I think it's even funnier. Yeah, it's very funny. So it's stuck. This is like back in the, in 1929, it's stuck. And then, um, the, uh, the race kind of, it was like,

like on and off for a little while and then it sort of started to be more, it was like an annual thing and it was just called the Powder Puff Derby, Darby. I found an article from the 1973 race. So this was an article in Sports Illustrated. And it looks like this was kind of, well, in the pages that I saw, there were no boobs. Oh. I don't know if I just didn't see the right pages.

But anyway, so this is an article written about it that says, The only trouble with the race is its title. In this day, in liberated age, Powder Puff Derby seems a touch too contrived and cute for such a serious challenge. I love that it's saying in this liberated age, and that's 1973. Yeah.

I love that, because I don't feel like we've come all that far. So still, the country's foremost women pilots are stuck with it by tradition and copyright, and away they went last week, 184 competitors on a 2,543-mile transcontinental dash that proved to be anything but puffy. This year's Derby brought 104 planes to the starting line at Paloma Airport in Carlsbad, California. The pilots ranging from young daughters to seasoned grandmas came from as far afield as Australia, South Africa and West Germany.

And there was not a won't-some body help pour little old me posture in the bunch. That was a really hard sentence to read. And there was not a, won't somebody help poor little old me posture in the bunch. Yeah, that's clumsy phrasing. Yeah, no damsels in distress in this group. I don't know why they would be expecting anyone to be like that in this race that they've chosen to be in. Well, yeah, I know. It does. I think they're just going a bit too hard of like, the name is quite patronising. These women are tough. And I know that. I believe that. I think there's like, they're leaning in a little too hard to like, I think women are great. Yeah, okay, man.

Yeah, it gets to the point eventually where you're not mentioning the gender at all is what shows that it doesn't matter, not overdoing like, these gals are tough. Yeah. Well, they're not bloody little girls anymore. Yeah, okay. So it goes on to say, the toughest part of the whole race is deciding when to fly and when to wait, said competitor Ginny Richardson. and finding a good tailwind and riding along with it is the secret.

And there were plenty of opportunities to make such spot decisions this year. Between Carlsbad and the finish line at Elmira, New York, there were eight timing checkpoints, three of which you must stop at, which all planes had to land, even if only for a short break. The planes also were restricted to flying between sunrise and sunset and could set down for the night only at designated fields. So it's like over several days and there's a lot of rules. Oh, interesting.

So, yeah, you'd be, if you don't make a certain checkpoint by Sunday and you're screwed. Or you just, they're like, you can't take off from me. You won't make it to the next one in time. Or you're just like the, I tried to understand how it worked. There was like handicaps in place for each type of plane and how fast it could go. And it was, I'm a bit confused by it. But yeah, maybe it was just that you would have to, maybe you would penalise time-wise. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure how it kind of worked. Unfortunately, this was the only thing I could find about it. And it's hard to read articles. It's like sailing races and stuff. I find all of them very confusing. Hard to watch and know what's going on. Even with like good coverage on TV. Like, whoa, it just looks.

One of these boats is ahead. How the hell do you know? It's just out there in the water somewhere. So a couple of the powder puffers. had more adventurous trips. This is still from the Sports Illustrated article. It says, approaching Albuquerque and her piper Cherokee,

Shirley Windhart, a youthful-looking grandma from Williamsport, William's Port, had a fuel tank switch failure. The engine quit, and soloist Windhart made a landing atop a 1,100-foot ridge, buckling the nose wheel

and putting a few dents in the Cherokee, but none in herself. And then there was another one that says, heading into Waterloo, Iowa, Wanda Cummings and co-pilot Ava Carmichael, ran out of fuel and landed in a cornfield four miles short of the airport. The farmer rushed out and thanked the flies for devastating his $2 a bushel corn instead of a nearby field of soybeans, which are selling for $7. That's the guy who's a real glass-off full type.

Oh, thank God you destroyed my slightly less valuable crop. And he said that before he even said, are you okay? Yeah, he was like, oh, thank you. I love Albuquerque. You mentioned it before? Albuquerque. It's only ever comes up, I don't know anything about it, but it comes up in going past Albuquerque. You had Bugs Bunny, didn't he used to say, should have turned left at Albuquerque?

Yeah, that rings a bell from bugs. It's just a fun name for a city. It's fun to say, Albuquerque, New Mexico. Love it. So, again, sorry, still from this article. But despite the long grind, the race still managed to come down to a final feminine twist. Each of the two women teams wearing matching flight costumes would step out of their aircraft in Elmira

looking quite splendid in everything from orange hot pants to Robin Hood mini skirt outfits in bright green silk and velvet. And then they get judged on their outfit? So it's a flying race but also Miss America. A swimsuit competition at the end. Oh my God. I think this was just like something they did for fun, which I quite, if that's the case, then I like it.

If they're made to do it, I hate it. But if they're just doing it for every. a bit of fun and they're like, let's dress up. I love that. Love that. Let's remember that my friends and I had a country club themed Zoom cocktail hour the other day and we all dressed up for that. Love that. It was our choice. No one forced you to do that? No one forced me to do that. I did it. Well, I don't think you would have enjoyed 1973, Jess, because they were just forcing people to have cocktail hours on Zoom all the time. Oh, God, the 70s. Anyway, this is another fun. Fun point too. Marjorie Robbins of Los Angeles and Shirley Thorne of La Canada, California.

La Canada. Wow. In California. Anyway, had pasted a card with the code word G-U-M-P-L on their dashboard as a checklist reminder of what to do when coming in for a landing. The first four letters concerned gas tanks, undercarriage, fuel mixture and propeller pitch. The final letters stood for put on your lipstick. I was going to say, lipstick, not landing gear, lipstick. Yeah, lipstick on.

And they remind each other, Shirley, lipstick. Oh, thanks Marjorie. That's lovely. So there were 184 competitors, including these two friends from Australia, racing 2,543 miles across the US, and Robin Miller and Rosemary de Piers crossed the finish line in sixth place. Oh, great. It was like 104 planes.

And they came six. That's great. That's awesome. So good. So she's achieved a lot. But now I need to prepare yourself for some bad news. Where did Earhart finish? Earhart.

Many, many decades earlier. I don't know. Oh, this wasn't the race she was in? No, no. Wait, when was that? That was in 1929. Oh, dear. This is 73.

I'm keeping up. But yeah, I do need you to prepare. myself for some bad news now. Oh no. All good things must come to an end, that bad? But around the same time of this flight, while her notoriety as a pioneering female aviator was still growing, Robin discovered a malignant melanoma on her leg, which was promptly surgically removed. So, but remember, she wasn't just a gun aviator because she was a highly trained and experienced nurse, so she knew her shit. And her sister Patsy said, I can remember her saying to me, if they've got it all, then I'll be all right. But if they haven't, then I've

got about two years. Patsy says her sister knew she was flying on borrowed time. And she was absolutely right. Because sadly, on the 7th of December, 1975, the day before her 35th birthday, she passed away in South Perth and was buried in the Catholic Rites in Broom Cemetery. She was 35. She did all that in 35 years. I was thinking that, yeah, obviously my maths hasn't been too good today, I was assuming, for some reason, my head, she was in her mid-50s or something by this point. She did all that by 35. Wild. Yeah.

Wow. Yeah. Oh, that is so sad. Mid to late 20s when she was off flying by herself to rural areas to administer the vaccine. Then she's early 30s when she comes sixth in this race across America. It's absolutely insane. This is her sister again. She says, I just remember her as a deer and a first.

affectionate sister, who was always there for all of us and the wider public, of course. She gave her life to the service of others. Pretty amazing. And after her death, Robbins' husband Harold set up a $50,000 memorial foundation to help nurses get flying licenses. And he also published a book called Sugarbird Lady, which came out in 1979, based on Robin's manuscripts and detailed diaries that she had always kept. So she's published a couple of books there as well. She was also posthumously awarded. the Paul Tisandia diploma, which is awarded to those persons who have served the cause of aviation and private and sporting aviation in particular by their work initiative, devotion and or other

endeavours. So it's a nice big award. And she was also given the Brabazon Cup from the Women's Pilots Association of Great Britain. A couple of awards came in for her as well. And just finally too, from Graham Marshall again, he's the CEO of the Western Australia. Royal Flying Doctor Service. He says, Robin Miller Dix embodied the Royal Flying Doctor's tradition of innovation and equality. In her short life, she revolutionised the opportunities for women in the aeromedical industry and refused to be held back by the limits of gender expectations and stereotypes. She excelled in roles that were traditionally seen as male and proved that women can be just as accomplished as men, if not more so. And he says, today, Robin's plane

proudly overlooks the flying doctor base that it once called home. Positioned to permanently saw through the sky, it's an enduring symbol of what women can achieve, inspiring a new generation to believe that if Robin did it, maybe they can too. So that's nice. Wow, that's great. What a tribute.

Yeah. And apparently there's like a couple of roads near the airport in Perth that there's one named after her. It's like Sugar Bird Lady Lane or something. And then another one's named after her dad. as well. So real pioneers. But yeah, I just thought that's like a local hero story that I did not know. Yeah, me either. And that she packed a lot into a very short life. Amazing. That's great. And so the TikTok that set this all off was that just like a little,

account of her life and you just wanted to look more into it? Yeah, it was maybe like a minute. But it was just like she, you know, she was a nurse and a pilot and she flew around giving the vaccine and she delivered a baby and then she died at 35 and I was like, who is this person? That's crazy. She did so much. She did a lot. So yeah, that's my report on Robin Miller the Sugarbird Lady.

Yeah, great one. So good. Yeah, it's weird when there's Aussie hero stories and you're like, we're normally like, there's certain Aussie heroes that you know so much about just because we can be over, overproud of things sometimes. And then occasionally ones come over. come in like that and you're like, how the fuck is this not told all the time in school or whatever? Yeah, why haven't we heard of it?

Maybe she's more well known in Perth. I'd love to hear from people in Perth who maybe have heard that story. Hopefully she's, I don't know, more well known there. But yeah, I had never heard anything. So pretty cool. Well, it's cool. A fair few more people know about it now. So that's cool.

Yeah. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, Wopper. My absolute pleasure. more people who now are aware of her story. Me and Greg, who's sitting next to me. Greg, social distance, Greg, come on. Get out of there. Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show,

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But if you get involved on the Sydney-Shaenberg level, you get to give us a fact, a quote or a question, and I read them out on the show. Don't pre-read them. It's all part of the fun. First up, we've got Nick Moyer. Nick Moyer has given us a question, but he's also given himself the title of Head Phone Jockey

for the Do Go On Network. Now, does that mean anything to either of you? Well, we've all got phones. Do you think he's riding the phone? Like a horse jockey, or is we talking like a disc jockey? I was thinking like a disc jockey somehow. So he's like, he's just playing Spotify or whatever off the phone. Yeah, off his phone.

Well, that's my job, Nick. Yeah, but I'm happy to work underneath you from now on, now that you've given yourself the title of his headphone jockey. And Nick's question is, what have been your most weird experience at a job? What has been your most weird experience at a job? Okay. Dave's got better answers for this than I do, I'm pretty sure.

One definitely comes to mind, and that is the time that I used to dress up as characters for kids' birthday parties. You're talking clown, cowboy, superhero, pirate, that kind of stuff. But then every Christmas, actually, it was just two Christmas in a row. I was invited to be Santa Claus at multiple birthday parties in Christmas functions. And it was always a bad idea because this was 10 years ago. So I was even thinner than I am now.

So I ate about 50 kilos, 19 years old, looked about 7. And I would put on a fat suit, but it was just the stomach. So the arms were still very thin, legs, still pins. And most people would humor me when I arrived. But one party I got to on a Saturday night, it was for a chicken farming company and there was some pretty tough people in the crowd, I've got to tell you. And when I got there, the first thing I hear is, you're not fucking Santa in front of the entire crowd.

Kids there. It's like, mate, I'm not here for you. We're here for the kids. Yeah. You're not Santa. That's so obvious to you. And I was like, mate, no kidding. You know, you think Santa's rocked up to your work chicken dinner or whatever it is?

Give me a break. Yeah, you thought you deserved the real Santa. Really? If he'd said, hey, San, are you looking a bit thin or something? I think that's a bit of fun, maybe. That usually, that's what I would get, like, a couple of cheeky parents. So wouldn't tip off the kids, but they'd be like, oh, Santa's lost a bit of weight. Good on you, mate, or something like that.

And you'd be like, ha-ha, very funny. Yeah, good on you, Sam. A bit on a low-carb diet. Yeah, good on you? And I'd be like, yeah. Feeling good, eh? Yeah, clearly I'm just a first-year drama student trying to pay the bills. Fuck off.

Anyway. Yeah. And then, long story short, I shouldn't have just been terrified of the parents because the kids did not give a shit. And there were some older kids there, 13 or 14. And they basically, they followed me to the car park and pretty much beat me up. They were like punching my legs and trying to steal my stereo out of my hands and stuff. It was a nightmarish experience. And I got to the car and I took off the suit.

And I sat there for about half an hour just trying to decompress. And as I drove away from the car park, which I was parked about 100 meters away. They'd been waiting on the playground out the back and they were all waving, yelling, bye Santa. It was a real nightmare. Oh my God. Don't worry. Those kids were all in jail.

Or dead. Wow, that does sound bad. I'm imagining you can top that though, Jess. What have you got? No, I've got, well, I mean, so the question is weird, right? I've had lots of weird stuff in call centres and stuff like that. But I don't, I can't really think of. anything off the top of my head. This is what's hard about these. Some people give us fantastic

questions that if I had time to think about, I might have good answers. But sometimes when it's just like, here's a great question. I'm like, ha, I can't think of anything particularly weird that's happened. Obviously, I've had odd customers, but I don't think they're really storyworthy. I can't even think of anyone that was weird now. Is the guy from your bit about at working at Bonds, the helicopter guy? Is that real? Yeah, that's true. That's weird. Yeah, that was weird.

When I used to work in a big shopping center, there was an Apple store across from us. And whenever they would release a new iPhone, people would like camp out in the shopping center the night before and like line up. And so one time a guy came in and he said, he was like a really rough looking guy. and he came up and he said, excuse me. I was like, yep, how can I help? And he goes, what the fuck is going on out there? And I went, oh, yeah, no, people are lining up

because the new iPhone comes out tomorrow. And he went, oh, that's fucked. And I went, yeah, yeah, it is a bit odd, isn't it? And he went, yeah. Anyway, are you guys hiring? And at the time, I was like a, I wasn't a manager or anything. I was like a three I see, which is not a real position.

But basically when the manager and assistant manager were out, I was in charge. And I was in charge at the time. And I made an executive decision to just say, no, we're not actually. I'm the three I see of this part. Well, actually, I think I told him to apply online. I was like, yeah, that's all online now, yeah.

Is that the CEO of Bonds by now? I hope so. That's fucked. That's, fuck. Anyway, and he was just like casually leaning. on some of our products and stuff. Just like, yeah, cool. And I was like, what are you doing?

That's fucked. Can I have a job? So yeah, that was a bit weird. Thank you for remembering that for me, Matt. I really should have some weird. And I'm just like you bopper and I'm just not, the one that's come to mind isn't that weird, maybe. I was way back in the day,

I was working as a trolley boy at a supermarket. And I'm pushing trolleys out on a Saturday. And apparently this group of guys came into the bottle shop and all had jumpers over their hands and just each grabbed bottles of spirits under the jumpers and just walked out. And the manager of the store made a bit of an error here because he just put together a group of supermarket workers to follow after them. And on the way through, he grabbed me as well. So we all followed this gang. Gang is strong, but you know, group of guys off the supermarket property around into an alleyway where they met.

You're not allowed to do that. He made such a bad, it was obviously such a bad decision. And then when, so there was like five or so of these guys. They got around the corner met a van of more guys. So there's like seven of us. We've come around. We're absolutely outnumbered. And we're all, you know, minimum wage workers at the supermarket.

And then, yeah. And one of the guys in this group pulls out a knife. And he goes back the fuck up. And then the store manager who was, I think he was a fill in store manager. He later on, he on his face was like, well, I fucked up so badly then. But he was like, we're going to go get these bottom. I just took a bunch of young kids. around to an alleyway to get moved.

So this guy pulls out and off and he goes, get back on the other side of that fucking road. So he's pushing us all back. And the manager's like, all right, I've realized that we're probably not getting the bottles back now. He's saying, all right,

we're going, we're going. One of the guys from the supermarket was standing up and this sort of the, I guess the alpha guy of this group comes up to him. And he just punches him in the face. No, not the manager.

One of the other guys, he just punched him right in the, mouth and and the manager's going, hey, we're going, we're going. So we're back and away. And then we turn around. And then I think it was the littlest guy of the thieves group ran up and clocked me in the side of the head. I guess, you know, to be being a pretty tough maneuver. He picked out the smallest guy.

I was like 16 or something. What the fuck? This isn't crazy story. It's a weird story, isn't it? Does that fit the... Were you injured? Oh, I had headaches for a few days, but yeah, I think I recovered okay. Are you on work cover because that manager fucking made you do that?

That manager fucked up so bad. It's so bad. You're not supposed to, you're not allowed to, like, follow them out of the store. If you think someone's stolen something, you, and they've left, like, you're fucked. Yeah, it's gone. But you don't take a pack of kids to. to an alleyway where there's a van of more people waiting. Why do the two of them get punched?

Tell me that guy got fired immediately. No, he did. I think he could because none of, I mean, I imagine it would have been bad for him if any of us took it further. But I got the next day off work. And then, you know, I never brought it up again.

I think everyone just sort of, if anyone made a big deal out of it, they probably would have. No police involvement after that. Oh, no, the cops came down. Yeah, cops did come actually so I had to give a statement and stuff. Fucked.

So the other guy that got punched in the face, he was a young kid. Yeah, it would have been like 18 or something. So imagine him going home and he's got blood all over his face and his parents are like, what happened at your shift at the supermarket? And he said, oh, I got punched. That is, Matt, why have we never heard that story before? That is wild. Wow.

I don't know. Yeah, I guess it is a bit of a wild story. But it just gets getting crazy that one, to be honest. Yeah. I'm trying to think. I hope that answers the question. Yeah. Hopefully that covers what you're after there, Nick.

I'm trying to think other ones. Yeah. Wow. But if that one does the job, then we'll take it. All right. Thank you, Nick, for that question. The next one comes from Michael D.Rizzi. He's given us the.

pronunciation there. Michael D. Rezy. And he's given us a fact. Love a fact. Sorry, his title is definitely not a virgin. Or it sounds like something a virgin would say. Say that really quickly. No, not, not.

Not a virgin. Definitely not a virgin. Michael, no one brought that up. Yeah. Now it sounds like you definitely are. Well, I wonder if this fact is going to make him seem like he needed to be pre-defensive. That's funny. Prefensive.

So he's given us a fact, and the fact is my 14-year-old dog, Tweener, that's a fun name for a dog, was having some trouble walking recently. The vet found that he had an enlarged prostate and that getting him neutered could help him save, I could help save him from the rainbow bridge. It did. It's like he's a puppy again. You could say that he was suffering from toxic masculinity. Is the rainbow bridge a euphemism for heaven? Yeah. Yeah, I haven't heard that before.

Yeah, they're right, but all good things. You know what the same? Yeah, all good things. That's true. And if, I mean, the rainbow bridge doesn't sound all that bad. This sounds quite nice. I quite like rainbows. It's got all the colours. Thank you so much for that fact, Michael, D Rez-Z.

That's great news about Tweener. That is great news. And what a great... Twainer. I've never heard that as a dog name of what. Twiner. A tweener? Tweener is great. The next one comes from Roy Phillips, whose title is the now senior junior,

from the band Junior Senior. And he's offered us a fact. And the fact is, yellow tennis balls were the idea of David Attenborough when he was the controller of BBC 2 as he thought they would look better on TV. Before that, they were either black or white. What? Roy, are you fucking with us? Don't, Roy, you better know.

not be fucking. Because if not, that's really amazing. That is an amazing fact. I've never heard that before. We did a David Atborough episode. Did we mention it on there? It'd be embarrassing if we did. Yeah.

But, I mean, famously, we don't retain much. I say we, it's mostly me. Oh my God. It's definitely, it's definitely been, yeah, apparently it comes up on a lot of, a lot of websites. Love it. Great fact. Thank you so much. I'm going to be bringing that one out, I reckon.

That's a great fact. Holy shit. How have I not heard that before? Amazing fact. Can you read it again? Yellow tennis balls were the idea of David Attenborough when he was the controller of BBC 2, as he thought they would look better on TV. Before that, they were either black or white.

Black or white. And they probably would have been black and right broadcast, right? Yeah, exactly, yeah. Fascinating. Maybe we did mention it. Oh, now I'll go back and listen. Well, we'll never know. We'll never know.

Oh, well, that's wild. What a great fact. Great fact, man. Great fact. Oh, this has been a very successful round of fact quotal question. Oh, yes. Loving all of these. And finally, the final fact quote of question this week comes from Daniel Headley,

who has given himself the title of Resident Dickhead of Do Go On. Oh, okay, excuse me. And excuse me. Sounds like you and I have been usurped, Jess. Oh, you're the resident dicket. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, okay. I see. All right, Daniel. Well, welcome.

He's coming and he, you know, in a jail senior shiv, the biggest guy. Yeah, yeah. He's out dickheaded, the biggest dickhead. You out dickhead. And he's done that. He's done that. I think, I mean, just calling yourself that is such a dickhead move. So he's really proved himself early. Yeah, he's done it. He's living up to the name. Let's hope his question really cements his position.

And the question, oh, it has. cemented him. His question is, how much would a wood chuck chuck, if a wood chuck, could chuck would exactly? What a dickhead question. What an absolute dickhead question. You massive dickhead. Oh, wow.

Because here we were, Matt. Weren't we being a bit defensive? Yeah. And did he even give himself a chance to shiv the biggest dickheads in the prison? He's proving himself. And oh, boy, did he out dickhead us? I mean, a woodchuck is, I imagine if it's a real animal, it's like a beaver or something. Is that right?

Is a woodchuck a, or is a woodchuck a job? Woodchuck. Oh. In my head, I always sort of pictured a, oh, it's a groundhog. Yeah, okay. So, yeah, they're kind of beaverish looking. I don't reckon they can chuck a lot of wood at all. I'm saying it.

I'm going to say 11. 11? I'm going to say three twigs. Oh, wow. Okay. Dave? I say four logs. Okay.

How big are these logs? Oh, small logs. Gee, settle down. Like, as in firewood kind of size. They're already been pre-chucks, to be honest. Pre-chucks wood. But they just chuck it a little bit more. Just to feel like they did something.

To be honest, they take all the glory of these little woodchucks, little fuckers. Yeah, yeah. Little dickheads. Apparently, it's the etymology of the name woodchuck is unrelated. to wood or chucking. It stem, this is from Wikipedia, it stems from an Algonequin, possibly Narragona set name

for the animal Wuchak, Wuchak. So it's like a, it's just the, the original older name for them. It's sort of morphed out of that, I think. And it's been anglicised to woodchuck. There you go.

The more, you know. Yeah, that's cool. That's a great fact. I mean, you didn't give us that fact. you got there via your dickhead question, Daniel. I hope you're okay with us leaning into this dickhead thing. But I mean, you did, you did. You started it. You started it.

You started it. So we'll finish it. But actually, Jess, I kind of think we're being dickheads to him now. Yeah, but he started it. Dad. Thank you so much, Daniel, Roy, Michael and Nick. Fantastic fact quotes or questions. And if you want to get involved in that, you can go to Patreon.com.

pod get involved in there on the Sydney-Shaunberg Lux Memorial level and yeah for all those people that we've read them out it's time for you to put another one in you get to keep giving them every time you have one read out on the show go back to that form give us another one and go again do it again and that goes for the people of recent weeks because I reckon there's a few people who haven't filled one in lately get on it if you want or no pressure and that takes us to our other shoutout patrons shoutout section just normally comes up with a bit of a game this is for members on the shout out level or above i think the shout out level is the d b cooper level associate producer ask prod oh ass prod it's on the ass prod is that right i think that might yeah no

i think that's the voting level to be honest it's clearly written out on their website if people check it out i'm on there now it's the ars prod get on there damn it see maybe daniel i am The real head dickhead. I think you'll find... I was about to tweet you that, Jess, so... Glad great came in. I actually, I did it. I did it.

No one ever believed me. It's only because we ask every time because we can never remember that I think we've checked enough times that now I'm like, no, it's not DB Cooper. Okay. Anyway. Between that...

But on the D.B. Cooper level, that's... Anyway, it doesn't matter. It's explained on the website. If you go to patreon.com slash do you go on pod. D.B. Cooper is bonus Epps. Right. So we will thank a few of you on that level and above now.

And Jess normally comes up a little game. We give everyone a title or some sort of a thing. What are we doing this week? I'm thinking two jobs that they combine. Oh, great. Because she was a nurse and a pilot. Coming a nurse pilot. They can have two jobs.

Flying nurse. It doesn't have to, well, Yeah, no, two jobs they combine, yeah. All right, great. Well, if I can kick it off, please. I'd love to thank from Invaloc in Victoria, Australia, which is 58 acres big.

No, 58 million. 58 million acres big. Geez, that's a big difference. I'd love to thank Tim Bowler. Tim Boler. Hello, Tim. Dave, do you want to do a one too? I'll do one and you hit me with another one.

Okay. So Tim is a postie. He's also a professional darts player. Yes, so he delivers the mail. But he like throws the mail and then throws a dart afterwards and it pins to the door. Oh, that's awesome. So it never gets wet. Yeah.

Because I assume your door is under some sort of shop. You're a fool, it's not. Put an awning above your door. He's ruined many pants. packages this way, but letters. Letters, they look cool. Yeah, people are getting like a birthday cake sent to them. There's just a whole...

The dart in it? He ruined my last laptop. Thanks a lot, Tim. Turns out, it wasn't, people weren't putting needles in strawberries. Tim was just trying to deliver them. Absolutely ruined my last pouch of custard I ordered. Pouch. You ordered a custard patch.

I ordered custard by the pouch. How do you get it? Of course. Bye there, Ica. Thank you so much, Tim. I'd also love to thank from West Babylon in New York. Wow, that sounds cool. Teresa Ducino.

All right, Matt. Now you two do a one-two. All right. Teresa is a factory working... Oh, that's it. I'm dog catcher. Factory working dog catcher. She catches the dogs in the factories.

Right. If a dog is loose in your factory, Theresa is who you call. Yeah. She knows a way around factories, how they work. Yeah, she's a way around dogs. She works as a mechanic in the factory, sort of a mechanical engineer. She keeps everything working in the factory. And then she actually designed a conveyor belt for catching dogs.

So at the front of the conveyor belt, it's got a dog trait. So it's like a decoy one. She's built the whole factory. But there she's built one extra one for catching dogs because there's a dog issue in this factory. I don't know what it is about West Babylon factories. Is it a dog food factory? Hey Jess, what does this factory make? They make dog food.

That's why they're confusing. So one of the conveyor belts has got dog food on it to entice dogs. and the other ones just have dog food on them. Oh, wow, what a nightmare. But she's somehow, Teresa's built it in a way that it works. What a nightmare. All right. And my final shout out this week is for, from Norwich in Norfolk,

home of Partridge. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I'd love to thank Benjamin A.E. Philby. Oh, great name. Double metal initial. Okay, Jess. Benjamin is a DJ slash barista.

That's cool. That's a classic combo. Exactly. And they're right around here. But also, you know, like people are out clubbing. They're loving his remixes. But also a little bit tired. Yeah.

Like, oh boy, I don't know how much more of this I can handle. I'm going very tired. And he's like, hey, do you want to hang out a little more? I'll make you a double espresso. That sounds nice. I wonder if he knows Alan Partridge. Let me just change the track here. Wicke, wicker, wicker.

All right, now I'm ready to go. And then also the frothing of the milk actually kind of adds to the atmosphere. Right. That's sick. Very cool. And yeah, he remixes that frothing sound that it makes. Yes. To the big sick drop.

Wait until the froth drops. All right. Been a while since I've been to a club. So they're my three shoutouts. Do you want to have a go, Jess or Dave? I'll have a go. I'd love to thank from Ipswich in Great Britain. Elizabeth Harris.

Okay, okay. Elizabeth Harris. All right. Elizabeth Harris. Geez, I hope my brain came up with factory workers. Yeah, come on. It could be anything in the world. And I went, all right, I'm going to think of something amazing.

all right, gyrocopter pilot. And bank teller. She drops off your money for you. Yeah, that's right. Money delivery. That's what banks are working towards now. I'd like to withdraw 300 bucks. She's like, go home.

I'll be there in 15 minutes. And then they just look up and it's just hovering above their house. They're like, I could just take it now. I'm like, no, no, it's part of the service. Go home. What's a gyrocopter? I think it's one where I know it from duck tails. I think there's a character called gyro and he was a jacists.

Have I made up gyro copter? I don't know, but it sounds fun. I think it's just like a helicopter that never quite, I don't think they got as popular. Auto gyro. Yeah, they're like little one-man looking helicopter things. Oh, cool. Well, that's all you need for delivering money. It's a type of roto craft.

that uses an unpowered rotor in free auto-rotation to develop lift. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, I feel a bit stupid for asking, actually. That's so obvious. But they're cool looking things. Oh, boy. Oh, James Bond used one and you only live twice.

Very cool. Ah, okay. Okay. And so that's what Elizabeth's using to deliver cash. Yeah, that's right. She bought Sean Connery's whole one. But also she like throws it out and so like the money flutters everywhere. It looks very cool, but it's actually quite impractical.

And people like, hey, that's my money. Yeah. Although actually maybe it's like super wealthy people order it to be showered in money. Like she turns up at their very fancy party they're having a garden party. Then like maybe not a garden party. Maybe it's like a rave. And then she just drops money and everyone's like, woo! Maybe it's like that.

All right now it's exactly like that. Me too. Thank you, Elizabeth. And I'd also love to thank from Copenhagen. Love to thank Fabian Peterson. Oh. Fabian Peterson is a really great name. And Fabian is in makeup manufacturing.

And watch repairs. Oh, nice. I just looked at my desk and my watch was sitting there. Watch repair shops are already people. They are one of those shops that do so many different unrelated things. They'll cut a key. They'll fix your boots. Yeah, resold your shoes.

They'll put batteries in anything. Yeah. So, you know, we say combining two jobs, but really Fabian's doing like eight. And one of them is makeup. Is you manufacturing the makeup? Yeah. Yeah. Right. I've gone back to manufacturing. I don't know why my heads did manufacture me. Well, Fabian, you're leading the way. You've added a new industry to your already bustling industry. Oh, wow. We can do absolutely anything. Fabian, congratulations. And also, I'd love to thank finally from Denver, Colour.

I'd love to thank Scott Robinson. Okay, Scott is an Elvis impersonator and... Nugget, Gold Nugget Explorer. Well, at least it was a manufacturer. Gold Nugget Explorer, yes. Is he Elvis who pans for gold? Yeah, gold banning Elvis. Yeah.

He's a local cook from the community. He's a local cook. But the thing is that he's very successful as well. He's found millions of dollars of gold over the year. So you can't really be like, well, can't argue a success. Yeah, he's doing it. Yeah, no, he's not a kook then. He's eccentric.

On your Scott in Denver. Everyone knows. From weird to eccentric if you want to become rich. All right. I'd like to take us home now with a few more names. And I'd like to thank first of all from Finden, South Australia, Karen Gaiydu. Karen Guyidu. Wow.

Karen. Okay. Chicken flyer. And she sells salt lamps. Okay. Again, I am looking around my room a bit. Yeah, and I had a Wikipedia page open for Gyro Gearloose, the character from Duck Tales. And it turns out he's a chicken.

Sorry, Karen, we've not really nailed it for you. That's a mess. It's not all gold. It's all gold panning Elvis, is it? Gold panning Elvis was great. Yeah. Let's try again. Let's try again.

Let's go one more time. All right. Okay, I'm going to get my head out of manufacturing. All right, Karen is. Cisor Lift operator. And florist. That's good. That's a good comment.

So like big flower installations for events. Yep. Just got to use a scissor lift to get them up. And she doesn't have to get someone in to do that. She can do it herself. She can do it all their same. So that's why she's the best in the biz because people are like,

oh wait, I don't have to pay you extra to hire someone. You can do it all? Wow, Karen. Wow. That's what they say. Nailed it. Nailed it, Karen. I would like to thank now from St. Louis, Missouri, or Missouri,

Christopher Lowski. Christopher Lowski. That's great. Jetsky Ryder. You had some good names. Oh, Jetsky Ryder. And Barber, who's special. only in beard work.

Okay. So if you're at... Okay. Oh no, I just thought hairdresser, but then I thought, let's just try and make this a little bit more specific. Okay. Love that.

Love a specialty. So, so, so, sorry, it was jet ski. I said jet ski rider. Like that's a job, but... Jet ski delivery person. Yeah, but he'll like, yes, and he'll deliver himself to cut your beard.

But you have to live, obviously, on the ocean, or be at sea for him to come to you. Or Venice? To be at sea. You must be at sea for my services. To be honest, he's been a bit, he's been all at sea lately. But in a good way, it means he's got a lot of work. What on, Christopher.

On you, Christopher. And finally, I would like to thank from Oakdale, Minnesota. Actually, Dave, just quickly, isn't Missouri, that's got heaps of lakes. Does that make sense? Yeah, I guess so. Dave, you did it. You did it, mate. Because you can ride a jet ski from one lake to an.

another. Yes. You just jump. Yeah. How hard can it be? If they've got heaps, there can't be one that far away. I've seen the first two seasons of the Ozarks, and if that is factual, there's lakes everywhere. They get around on boats and stuff, so. And hopefully jet skis. And jet skis, yep. Obviously, yes. But I would like to thank from Oakdale, Minnesota, Tim Kaiser.

Oh, kick it with the Kaiser. He's a chili pop pepper. He's competitive chili, hot chili eater. Okay. And he also services vending machines. Does both. Yeah, he's doing them all. That's good.

Which means access to snacks at all times. Oh, what a dream. Love that. Love snacks. So he's always training. He's training. And also a world champion in the chili eating. Yeah. Wow.

And there's big money in obviously chili eating too. So he's like he's doing very well. But really it's, it's, vending machines. It's his passion. Yeah, that's a side gig, just for fun and also for snacks. Yeah, exactly. Oh, man, that's a good job.

That's a good job. That's a fun job. Snacks. Do you think they keep, like, pretty detailed inventory of the snacks? Nah, I don't reckon. I mean, you can't count cans of soft drink, surely. Too hard. Too many.

Too many. Ugh. No one is in the Triptage Club again this week. It looks like there might be some members. inducted next week, though. Do you still want to give a quick, because there's obviously still plenty of people in there from previous week,

do you want to give us some hors d'oeuvres, cocktail and the band that's performing this week? Yep. So this week, snack-wise, we're having aeroplane jelly. Oh, I love it. Yes. Oh, airplane jellies for me.

Served in little aeroplane-shaped spoons. And you get fed by a, an older woman who says here comes Airplane and you go honestly this theme's going a bit far don't you think I'm an adult I can feed myself I'm loving it and she says I'm so sorry I've been paid to be here

and if I don't do it Jess will yell at me Please just Have you been reading my dream diary? Indulge me Is it why are you dreaming of me yelling at you? After

after feeding me Aeropline Jail with an airplane spoon Cocktail-wise, we've got Cosmos. Yum. There's a pink one's from Sex and the City. That's right. A classic, vodka, cranberry, delicious.

And Dave? And, well, as for musical act, we've actually got someone who featured on last week's Woodstock episode. We've got Carlos Santana himself featuring Rob Thomas. Oh, wow. Can you believe? That's awesome. That's a heart one.

That's right. And they're just playing that song Smooth over and over and over again. I think maybe my top 10 least favorite songs all time. But I keep requesting Matchbox 20 songs and Rob refuses. Santana played Black Magic Woman. I'm like, you've changed Rob. No, we're sticking with smooth. This gig is smooth.

Oh, no, stop. Dave, could I request that the band also backing? They're backing the band. I think you mentioned briefly last week. They also played it Woodstock. They're a very influential band, the band, with a great name. Wow, there you go. Okay, so, take a load off.

Benny, take a load for free. Take a load off Benny. Put your load right on. Put your load right on. Put your load right on me. Is that the band? They will not be playing that song. They will be playing smooth.

They're also playing. Honestly, without new inductees, we've made this week at the lounge an awful place to be. Sorry, sorry about that. You're being forced-fed by an old woman and there's only one song playing. All right. Well, that brings us to the end of the episode. What a fun time we've had in the Patreon Lounge this week. If you want to get involved, we go to patreon.com slash do go on pod.

Thanks for listening all the way through. There is no pressure. If you've been listening and hating it, then next week, please stop at the end of the report. There is no pressure at all. Dave, where can people find us? I think you find us on social media is at Do Go On Pod, on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter, but there's links to everything at do go onpod.com. And if you are craving more podcasting content, Dave does a great book podcast called Book Cheat.

It's Love the World Over. He takes a classic book and he breaks it down for you with a couple of funny and fun guests. And it's a real good time. the most recent ones have been about to kill a mockingbird. That's right. And just this week, just yesterday, I put out a new one on King Lear, a bit of Shakespeare. The one that everyone in the, when isolation first started, was saying, well, he wrote that in isolation during the plague, which is only half true. But anyway, still, listen to King Lear.

I've also brought primates back for a little limited run where Evan and I are going through the Umbrella Academy, episode by episode. We're doing two of those a week. They're a bit shorter episodes. And yeah, that's been a lot of fun. We're going to do that and then probably go into season two as well. And listen now. We're still doing the most popularly voted for 80s rock albums. The most recent one is about, well, a couple of, the one back was Nine Inch Nails's debut album.

And then the most recent one, or actually the one that will be, we just recorded, but it's coming out next week is about Dias Straits, their album Brothers in Arms. And then the one after that is one of Dave's favorite bands. So I'm going to ask him to be involved. Okay. I wonder which one that's going to be. But we'll find out when you all find out because he hasn't mentioned this to me before. Anyway, I think that brings us pretty much to the end of the episode.

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