Do Go On - 257 - Aretha Franklin

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Starting point is 00:01:58 Go to bombas.com slash a cast and use code a cast for 20% off your first purchase. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planet broadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of 2 Go On! My name is Dave Wonuki and there's always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Get a dickhead. Oh hello. Get a friends. Oh okay. And confidence. Colley? No. No. No. Confident in me. Okay, I will try not to.

Starting point is 00:02:42 I am a notorious snitch. Well, I know that. That's why I tell you fake secrets. And then I find out when you tweet them in a, it's all a big ruse. Wow. You find out. Everyone that follows you knows about the ruse. And every time you tweet them, you're busted. Oh, you ruse to me.

Starting point is 00:03:04 You also just you accidentally always tag Matt in those tweets too, which kind of gives you away. Kind of. I say someone not saying who at Matt's to it. Yes. How are you guys? Are you well? Yeah, pretty good. Loving the sunshine, Saints are in the finals,

Starting point is 00:03:24 and for the first time since 2011, this is the first time the Saints have played finals since we've been doing this podcast. That's crazy. That's a weird thought, yeah, cool. So they've played as many finals as I have since we've started this podcast. Yeah, that's right, yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah, Dave really Sidelined is a footy career for us, and we'll always be indebted to him for that. Yeah, you are. Welcome, I was gonna win the norm Smith, whatever that is. Yeah, what position did you play, Dave? A full norm. A full norm. Wow, that's a way of going with a norm Smith.

Starting point is 00:03:54 They put me up there. I'm one of the normiest players I've ever seen. Watch me, watch me norm. I'm full norm, call you. You know, the norm Smith, the best player on the grand and the grand final. So that was a good one to win. Thank you.

Starting point is 00:04:11 Yeah. That's a good one. But you gave that up for us. And we really appreciate it. To do this podcast that works like this, one of the three of us goes away and researchers are topic for the week. And we write a report about it after really getting involved in all the nooks and crannies and the intricacies of this topic that has been usually suggested

Starting point is 00:04:30 by listeners or a listener. And then we come back and tell everything we've learnt back to the other two in the form of a report, while the other two patiently, quietly and respectfully listen along. I'm not going to say anything until the end of the report. So there'll be an hour of silence from me. Even if the report goes for 45 minutes, I will stay silent. That's all out. Hey Dave, I don't know why you're saying that.

Starting point is 00:04:53 That's what you do every week. So it's not really noteworthy. I'm explaining how it works to the newcomer. Oh, the new listens fair enough. And this week Jess is doing the report. So Dave will be sitting quietly next to me. Oh no. Well Jess tells us about something. And to get us is doing the report, so Dave will be sitting quietly next to me. Oh no. Well Jess tells us about something and to get us on to that topic, she's going to ask a question.

Starting point is 00:05:10 Now what's the question this week Jess Perkins? The question is, who makes you feel like a natural woman? Oh Helen, Helen Ready. No. Helen, no. Oh. That was, I am woman. Oh no, a different woman song. Yes.

Starting point is 00:05:27 The feminists of the podcast really should have got that one. Dave? Oh my goodness. This is from Carol King. Oh, yes. Carol written by Carol King, most famously performed by... I thought it was Carol King from tapestry, am I wrong? This deserves a little bit more respect. A wreath of Franklin. A wreath of Franklin. A wreath of Franklin.

Starting point is 00:05:48 Oh, there you go. Yeah, well done. Yes, Carol King wrote it. I'll maybe not most famously performed by a wreath of Franklin, but very famous. You're absolutely. She's very, very famous. Yeah, so you both had heard of Aretha Franklin.

Starting point is 00:06:05 Yes. I have a little RESPST for her work. And I would assume that the majority of our listeners have also heard of Aretha Franklin. However, she has not been suggested once in the hat. We have over 6,000 suggestions. She comes up twice when I search for her in the hat. We have over 6,000 suggestions. She comes up twice when I search for her in the hat, and that is only in reference to other performers. So people say, oh, they worked with

Starting point is 00:06:33 Aretha Franklin as well at times, and it's like, aha, and you didn't think to suggest Aretha Franklin. Oh my goodness. People at home really going to take a good long look at themselves on this one. Well, luckily. I put her up for the vote vote and she was just pipped by Chuck Berry a couple of months ago. Oh cool. So I assumed she was in the hat. So I obviously also had the same thought. But yeah, that's cool. And she's sort of related to a previous topic we did,

Starting point is 00:07:02 or you did when John Balushiushi because they start in Blue's Brothers together. Yeah, that's right. That's cool. Which I will of course talk about. So yeah, this is something that I've kind of wanted to do for a few months and now that I'm in that sweet free choice. Actually, I say sweet, but sometimes free choice is, it's almost too broad.

Starting point is 00:07:23 Oh, I see. You can do anything. Too many, six thousand options, as he said, it's hard. It's so hard. And you went outside, is it? I went outside. And I'll explain why this came to me towards the end of the report. But anyway, it's something I wanted to do for a while. And I started reading and researching,

Starting point is 00:07:41 and I think she's had a pretty phenomenal life, but I do want to warn you that her early life, and actually quite a lot of her personal life, not great. Okay. So, you know, God's be to you too, for bringing the comedy today, okay. Okay. Well, that sounds.

Starting point is 00:08:03 Because I'm just here to do the report. Okay, I'm just here for the info. You're here for the fun. We're here for the entertainment. Exactly right. I think, you know, Helen Ready, I think she was on my mind because I think there's a new film coming out

Starting point is 00:08:16 about her life. It's out, it's on Stan, it's called I Am Woman. Oh, okay. I'm pretty sure it's out already, or yeah. So that's why it's front of mind, yeah. That must be what it front of mind great Australian performer to I think it looks pretty good. I'll give it a watch. I love and Homer Simpson sings that song or no, Homer Simpson look alike when he's when Bart's waiting to be picked up after soccer. sings I'm woman he me raw I am woman he me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me That's because that's the wheel for you. I'm on my way. Sorry, Mark, do you say something?

Starting point is 00:09:09 That is very funny, so. Such a good episode. Good bit. Trap. Puse, sip. Trap, puse, sip. Sorry. Is that the big brother episode?

Starting point is 00:09:21 Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's the start of that. When I fill heartman's great apps. Sorry, funny. Anyway, what an early sidetrack. We'd now, so if the US is from now on, we sit quietly and respectfully and we listen. That's right. So, Aretha Louise Franklin was born on March 25th, 1942 at the family home in Memphis, Tennessee. Her parents were Barbara and Clarence LeVon. He was known as CL, and her father was a Baptist minister, and her mother was an accomplished pianist and singer. The family moved around a bit with CL's work. Firstly, to Buffalo, New York, and then to Detroit, where CL took over

Starting point is 00:09:59 the pastorship of the New Bethel Baptist Church. Now, she was one of four children born to her parents. She had older siblings, Irma and Cecil and younger sister Carolyn, all of them born two years apart. 1938, 1940, 1942, 1944. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Oh, that's, I mean, that's good stuff. I love that.

Starting point is 00:10:19 That's a well-planned family. I feel like once you've done that with the first two, you have to keep it going. Right. And what was it to the date? Like they're all born on the same date two years apart? Sadly no. That would actually, I don't know her siblings birthday.

Starting point is 00:10:32 So let's say yes. Because it's easier to have one birthday party every year for all four kids. Absolutely. One big bash. Love that. So both of you. Yeah, ours was more like exponentially. I was one calendar

Starting point is 00:10:46 year after my older sister, and then my brother was like two and a half or, and then my younger sister three and a half. It's like each time that my parents like, oh, let's give it a little bit more of a gap with me. And are they still going? Yeah, they're still going. So well, we assume so. I mean, the gap's quite large at the moment. Yeah, but who knows? Who knows? You know, and that's their choice. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:11 Matt's got a little baby brother. So both her parents also had children from a previous relationship. Her mother had a son named Vaughn from her past marriage. And CL, the Baptist minister, fathered a daughter outside of his marriage with a member of his congregation. Okay.

Starting point is 00:11:30 Another note on her father. He sounds like a real character. I'm fascinated and perplexed by him. He was quite famous by the sounds of it. He was friends with Martin Luther King, Jr. He recorded more than 70's Semonic albums, which were broadcast on radio on Sundays. He was called The Man with the

Starting point is 00:11:48 Million Dollar Voice, sorry Dave. Wow. Dave voice sounds cheap in comparison. Yeah. I mean, and he also, if you account for inflation, that's what like, like what a 13, 14 million dollar voice these days. Yeah. Waisley. And here you are, the man with the $1,000, $100,000 voice. It's just not, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, that's weird. Yeah, I didn't know what that was. I was like, oh yeah, like sermons. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:27 Simonic. Simonic. Seventy of them. You don't want to make that mistake. Accidentally put out a demonic album when you're trying to do a demonic album. It's not with your brand. Oh.

Starting point is 00:12:37 And when you're saying like the million dollar voice, is that just a speaking voice like for preaching or is he also singing, do you think? Yes, he had a, he was a good singer but he had a style of preaching that he kind of seamlessly segwayed into song a lot. Oh that's amazing. Yeah so he he seems like a very charismatic yeah like pastor. I love the same a seamless seg segue. It reminds me of the time when I was trying to do a sameless segue, but it was very clunky, very clunky. See, that's why I don't have the million dollar voice.

Starting point is 00:13:13 No, you don't, and that's okay. Don't be like, we can't all have million dollar voices. But for him, it would have sounded like something like, I love a seamless segue. It reminds me of the time. Straight in there. And he was like, he was pretty flashy. He dressed in flashy suits and he drove Cadillacs

Starting point is 00:13:28 and he had a lot of affairs. He was a flashy guy. Wow, okay. See how you're all dog. See how he's a, a racist sister, Irma, said in an interview, I do know that my parents' relationship was stormy and that my father had a violent temper. I never saw him strike her, but we were all

Starting point is 00:13:45 very conscious of not inciting Daddy's wrath. So not a great home life, obviously. Love that. Love somewhere in a preacher. It's sermons, all about God and love. At home. Well, that's weird, isn't it? Really weird. So due to his infidelities, which also included a long term on-again off-again affair with gospel singer Clara Ward, who was quite famous at the time as well, the Franklin's marriage was a troubled one and they eventually divorced in 1948. So, Areth's mother, Barbara, went back to Buffalo, accompanied by her son Vaughn, and the other children stayed with their father in Detroit.

Starting point is 00:14:23 Go bells, go pistons. Yes, I had that written in, but you did it. I didn't even need to definitely reference it. So a re-thera in a siblings would visit their mother and their brother in Buffalo during the summer, and Barbara would come and visit them in Detroit. But obviously, they're not Buffalo and Detroit aren't super close by, so it's, you know, they don't get to see each other all that much. And this was when Arretha was six when her mum left, and her brother Cecil said, as much

Starting point is 00:14:54 as Arretha adored our father, she would have been thrilled to live with mother, but dad made it clear that wasn't an option, so he kept the kids. Arretha and his sisters were all really talented singers. Ermer and Carol and also went on to have careers in music, but Aretha really stood out. She was particularly talented. So CL hired a piano teacher to help Aretha polish the skills. She'd already taught herself a bit of piano, but she was a shy kid and whenever the piano teacher came over, she would hide, Which I get, I did that a little bit too when we had a piano teacher come in the house.

Starting point is 00:15:28 She scared me a bit. Well, what you haven't mentioned there is her piano teacher was the boogie man. That's funny, we called my piano teacher the dragon lady. Oh my God. Not to her face, please. No, I don't remember what her name was. Hey dragon lady.

Starting point is 00:15:45 Hi, come on in. It's an ironic nickname, you're so adorable. You're so soft and fluffy. Anyway, so she preferred to just play by ear, which she said has allowed me to develop a rather personal and signature style, which I treasure, and would not give up for anything or anyone. I'm also imagining a six-year-old

Starting point is 00:16:05 writing that, but that was probably later in life that she wrote that down. In an interview later, a friend of her brother, who was a man named Smokey Robinson, ring a bell at a hole. Yeah, that's a cheesy drop in some names early. There's a lot of them. And that's her, her bro's friend. Yeah, because they grew up together, grew up down the street. Smokey Robinson. So he said there was a grand piano

Starting point is 00:16:31 in the Franklin living room. And when a wreath is sat down, even as a seven-year-old, she started playing chords, big chords. Mind you, this was Detroit, where musical talent ran strong and free. A wreath that came out of this world, but she also came out of another far-off magical world. None of us really understood. Buffalo. And we don't get it. What's it like there?

Starting point is 00:16:57 But yeah, even as a very young child, she's, um, yeah, people are seeing that she's quite exceptional. So a father would get her to perform for his famous friends who visited, including again, some big names like Ella Fitzgerald and Nat King Cole. But actually, one of the people that was the, who influenced Retha to become a singer, was Clara Ward, who was, as I said,

Starting point is 00:17:19 very successful gospel singer, but also the one who was having an affair with her father. So I'm fascinated by that dynamic, but I read that Arretha preferred to view them strictly as friends. She was like, oh, it's just dad's friend. Yeah, kind of like our grandparents call new partners. Yeah, your friend. Dave, Dave got a new friend. I've had that before. This is my grandson Dave and his friend. I'm like, okay. I think that's a thin being coy. They're trying to not, you know,

Starting point is 00:17:52 you maybe you haven't announced yet Dave. Do you normally announce it? Yeah, I do. Everybody, ding ding ding. Everybody please, gather around, gather around family. This is Davey has an announcement. I have a girlfriend.

Starting point is 00:18:06 I've also had though a girlfriend's dad's for years call you. You've had girlfriend's dad's. So if you refer to me, everybody I'd like to make an announcement. I have a girlfriend's dad. They're referring to you as their daughter's friend. And you know, mate, come on, is this wishful thinking on your behalf? Yeah. I'm sorry, mate. I'm, is this wishful thinking on your partner?

Starting point is 00:18:25 I'm sorry, mate, I'm in. I'm sorry. She's so sorry. She loves me, like sorry. She really loves me. Sorry, we lived together, I'm so sorry. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone's got housemates, I get it. Would you prefer a pen pals or something?

Starting point is 00:18:40 Would you prefer, I called you my daughter's housemate or? Yeah, what do you prefer? Yes, so Aritha being inspired by this amazing and successful gospel singer Clara Ward. But in Buffalo, Aritha's mother Barbara had been unwell and the cause of a realness was unknown. And on March 7th 1952, Vaughan was on his way home from school when he saw an ambulance speeding by. Barbara had passed away from a heart attack at the age of 34. Whoa! She was young. So young.

Starting point is 00:19:13 And Ritha was only a few weeks shy of turning 10, so she's only little. And back in Detroit, CL told his children that their mother had passed away. A Rith a later wrote, I cannot describe the pain. Pain is sometimes a private matter, and the pain of small children losing their mother defies description. It was just awful. So this event obviously had a huge impact on a wreatha.

Starting point is 00:19:37 After her mother died, she started singing, well, she was always singing, but she was putting more of herself into her singing, and she was singing solos at the church where her father was the preacher. And this is from an article in Rolling Stone, which was like a big basis of this report. It's an amazing, amazing article. So it says Ruth Bowen, who was a wreathlessist, said, let me tell you about the kind of child a wreath there was. She was a traumatized child.

Starting point is 00:20:05 Seeing Aretha and her father's church, she looked like a lost child. Her eyes were filled with sadness, and then she got up to sing. This sound came out. It was gospel filled with blues. I mean, frighteningly strong blues, beautifully mature blues. After she sang, she sat back down and withdrew into her own little world. I like having these quotes and these insights into how profoundly talented she was from such an early age. Do you know what I mean? It's just sort of cool to see people describing it like that. Yeah, like she was almost like the chosen one. Yeah. It's like if it was a movie, it's, she's Harry Potter or something, you know?

Starting point is 00:20:46 Yeah. And the prophecy has foretold about women with an amazing voice. Your history is a people, you know, starting acting quite late in life or, you know, having completely normal childhoods and then finding fame and doing things. But like super early on, people heard her sing and went,

Starting point is 00:21:06 oh, yep, okay, like you're gonna be huge. I don't think I've ever heard a kid sing like, if I've ever heard a kid sing, I'm like, oh, very good. Oh, aren't you cute? So great. It was fantastic when he stopped, thank you. I loved it when it ended.

Starting point is 00:21:22 And you Clevver. Have you tried rap? I can't wait to be a stage. Have you tried sewing or, you know, something quieter? Hey, why don't you go do some crafts for a bit? We've felt, you know, a quiet craft. No scissors allowed. No, they're too loud. One of the quiet crafts, that's a...

Starting point is 00:21:44 What are you pick? One of the quiet crafts. crafts. That's a good one. What are you pick? One of the quiet crafts. Mummy's got to hang over. No scissors today. Are these your kids? Oh, yeah, definitely. This is you guys talking to my children. This is Uncle Matt.

Starting point is 00:21:57 They're going, oh, OK. I was picturing like a friend that you know a little bit, and you see their kid and they're very proud of their kids Sicking and you have to be polite, but no you're talking Your own kids and it's not yeah Well if you if you really want to sing we can work on it. We can practice together It's like no none of that no more push now Sure sure sure that's great. Yeah, I really do you think you should have kids

Starting point is 00:22:25 Thank you. Me too. If not just to be a mum major, think of it as a great stage mum. A dance mum, I'll be a dance mum. Even though I never danced myself. I can say you're doing that a lot. That's how you wake up your kids.

Starting point is 00:22:44 I'm going to call it, Tefinica. Oh, it's a beautiful one. Oh, wow, it sounds so lovely. It isn't really nice, though. Thank you. I think you feel well wishes. Speaking of good names, Aretha is a sick name, and you don't hear it.

Starting point is 00:23:00 It's good, isn't it? I don't know if I, do I know any other Aretha's? I'm not sure that I do. I don't think so. She's so kind. She's probably, she't it? I don't know if I, do I know any other erratism, not sure what I do. I don't think so. She's probably, she's one of those few people who's, if you say one name, you know, you don't need a surname. Yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 00:23:13 Say a rathy, you know, you're talking about. Yeah, she's pretty, pretty epic. So when she's 12, CL started to act as a manager for his daughter. Mammature. And yeah, a dadager. And here, she traveled around with him when he went on the manager for his daughter. Manager? And, yeah, a dadager. And he would travel around with him when he went on the road for his gospel caravan tours

Starting point is 00:23:30 for her to perform in various churches. He would go from place to place. I read somewhere that he was getting paid, like, $4,000 for, like, appearance fees or to, like, come and do a sermon, which... That's what... And this is back in the 60s. The 50s, 60s.

Starting point is 00:23:46 I mean, you've got to pay the insurance premium on that million dollar voice somehow. Yeah, you're not wrong. So yeah, she's off performing with her dad. It's pretty insane. Also at the age of 12, this is something I never knew. At the age of 12, Aritha fell pregnant with her first child. Oh my goodness.

Starting point is 00:24:08 At the age of what? 12. Holy shit. And amazingly, given the time, it wasn't made into a big deal. Her dad was supportive and her family kind of rallied around her. She had a baby at 12.

Starting point is 00:24:21 Oh, she had a baby at 12. Yes. Holy shit. That's a real Gilmore Girls kind of scenario. Is that what happened in that show? That was like, maybe she was 15 or 16 in that show. 12 is wild. I had no idea about that. And apparently, and we probably didn't know it

Starting point is 00:24:38 because Aritha didn't really talk about it much. She didn't like to talk about interviews, which I understand. So yeah, 1955, she was birthed to her first child, Clarence, named after her father. There were rumors about who the baby's father was, but she kept that to herself. Didn't talk about it in interviews, never disclosed it. In fact, jumping ahead a little, it only really came out last year in 2019 that the father was Edward Jordan, who she also had another child with two years later, another boy named Edward, after its father, born in 1957. So she's 14 and she has two kids.

Starting point is 00:25:14 Oh, my lord. Yeah. Yeah, that is mind-blowing. I mean, you say considering the time was made in a big deal, but now that would be... Oh, absolutely, yeah. 12 year old. I don't think that made in a big deal, but now that would be... Oh, absolutely, yeah. 12 year old, I think that's been a big deal since maybe the middle ages or something. Yeah. When that was probably normal, now it's like, what the fuck?

Starting point is 00:25:33 Like, I'd... Yeah, I would have... That's mind blowing stuff. I know. And it's... How old... I mean, this is real dodgy world here., how old's the dad? I don't know I'm assuming similar age, but I don't know six. Yeah, what? Holy crap. Yeah, that is a young dad.

Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah, so she's 14 with two children and She's also gaining more attention as a gospel singer. So she'd go on tour with her father's gospel caravan, which would travel all over the place to perform. And while their music was wholesome, the after show activities were a little less so. Here's a quote from another name you might recognise. Ray Charles. Oh yeah. I've heard of him before. Ray Charles. Anyway, apparently he would go on these occasionally and he said, I loved the church singers.

Starting point is 00:26:27 When it came to, this is a very confusing quote, so see if you can help me unpack this. When it came to pure heart singing, they were motherfuckers. Oh, yeah, okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then he said, when it came to pure sex, they were wilder than me and that's saying something. Right, Charles, my God.

Starting point is 00:26:47 So when it came to pure heart singing, they were motherfuckers. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm very confused by that. I think you should sing a Charles. That's positive. It sounds positive to me, right?

Starting point is 00:27:00 Yeah, so they were amazing singers. Yeah. And amazing. Don't I'm out of the sack. Yeah. Crazy than him. I'm were amazing singers. Yeah. And amazing Dona, I'm out of the sack. Crazy than him. Yeah. Wow. Well, like a guy called Nick Selvatori wrote a book about CL Franklin called singing in a strange land. And he wrote, what arrangement CL made to shield her from the two as nocturnal activities are not known, but her very

Starting point is 00:27:21 presence unavoidably exposed her to experience as well beyond her years, which is absolutely true, but also she's already had two children. I mean, this is just classic church music tour stuff, though. You know, what happens on church tour? Yeah. Stays on church tour. Church, do you know what the church is like? It's a little bit sex. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:27:40 So, a horny in the church. Starts with the organ finishes with the orgasm, am I right? Yeah, big time. So church across the road, all I bloody see is just nude, nude, nude. I'm like, put it away. I'm yelling that naked on my balcony, of course. But that's on my balcony. Put it away, you little grubs.

Starting point is 00:28:01 It's a Sunday. Anyway. So yeah, she's on tour with these people who are just, you know, singing by day, fucking by night. Oh wow, I mean, good on them. Living a life for sure. So around the same time in 1956, still with her, I said 50 sticks, in 1956, still with her father managing her, she released her first album, Songs of Faith. This album would later be re-released almost 10 years later in 1965, but it's 56, she's a teenager, she's 14, first albums out, Songs of Faith.

Starting point is 00:28:38 When she was 16, she even went on tour with Martin Luther King, Jr. like singing at the things that he would speak at, and she would even go on to sing in his funeral in 1968. Is that wild? Yeah. She just knows everyone. Sounds very well connected.

Starting point is 00:28:53 Yeah, through her dad who seemed to be very well connected. Two of the artists who was most inspired by it were Deanna Washington and Sam Cook, both of whom were friends of a famous dad. And this is from the Rolling Stone article again. It says, neither fit any single genre. Both started in gospel but proved endlessly transformative. And Malgameyth II, and you pretty much

Starting point is 00:29:16 have the alchemy for Aretha Franklin. So they were really, really inspirational to her. Sam Cook was a big star. And his group, The Soul Sturers were often on tour with CL and his gospel caravan, so Auretha got to spend a lot of time with him and learn a lot about the music she wanted to make. So when she was 18 she told her father that she was inspired by Sam Cook and wanted to make the move into pop music, wanted to move away from gospel. And he agreed because

Starting point is 00:29:42 as a Rethicist of Carolyn said, the plan was to make her a star and make it happen quickly. So he's like, yes, go be a big star. So Barry Gordy, who famously founded Motown Records, wanted to sign a Retha, but Ciel thought Motown wasn't established enough yet and were too local. They needed bigger. It's not fucking more. That's good. That's good foresight there. Yeah. No town, no town.

Starting point is 00:30:09 I'll never be anyone. Yeah, nothing. So this is a nice quote from Billy Davis, who was Barry Gordy's songwriting partner. He said, everything that she sang was with such emotion that you felt every word. She just had terrific control over her expressions.

Starting point is 00:30:25 Amazing, so she's 18. People are still just like, the fuck and how? She's so good. So they decided she should move to New York, which is exactly what she did, leaving her two children behind to live with her grandmother.

Starting point is 00:30:35 So like, they're great grandmother. No, yes. I understand families. Initially, she lived in cheap hotels and focused on trying to meet the right people who could help her. From Rolling Stone again, she says, she and C.L. hired a new manager, Joe King. And early, Joe King. That's very funny. People laugh when he shakes their hands, he's like, what, I don't get it. I didn't even pick it up when I was writing it or reading it.

Starting point is 00:31:07 I was joking. Jo King. In early 1960, King introduced CL to fill more and arrange it and jazz pianist. That's also funny. Fill more. God damn, that is great. More sat down with the re-through at the piano

Starting point is 00:31:21 and they played a few songs. Then he turned to CL and made this statement about a re-thrinkland. Your daughter does not require my services. Her style has already been developed. Her style is in place. It is a unique style that in my professional opinion requires no alteration, just some nice feedback. I thought it was going to return to the dad and you were going to say,

Starting point is 00:31:45 and he made this symbol and he rubbed his fingers together. You were going to be written. Oh my God. He just gave him the thumbs up. And then he turned to a wreath and he went, oh, she good. Yes, well done. It's great for a child, which you still basically are.

Starting point is 00:32:02 Oh, good job. So after learning that CEO was trying to get a Reether signed with Columbia Records, Phil Moore suggested they meet with John Hammond, who was a great producer and who had discovered he was sort of famously known for discovering 17-year-old Billy Holiday a few decades earlier. So he visited the studio and listened to a demo they had prepared for him and he did not need a lot of convincing He later said that he thought Orita was an unshooted genius the best voice I've heard since Billy holiday It's like it's epic. Yeah, well she says extremely talented

Starting point is 00:32:37 Yeah, yeah, and it's it's like abundantly clear immediately people here are singing go. Oh, yeah Okay, it's like jaw dropping sopping. So in January 1961, Columbia issued Franklin's first album, Arita, with the Ray Bryant Combo. There's some good album names in here, by the way. So this is the first secular album, not gospel, not religious. Arita with the Ray Bryant Combo. Are they like a backing band? Yeah, must be, yeah. The album featured her first single to chart the Billboard Hot 100, which was Won't Be Long, which also picked at number seven on the R&B chart. Before the year was out, she's got her first hit single with her rendition,

Starting point is 00:33:16 this is confusing, with her rendition of the standard, rock-a-bye, your baby with a Dixie melody. Rock-a-bye, your baby with a Dixie melody. You know? Yeah, great catchy song title. I love keeping them short and sweet. I don't write them like that anymore, let me tell you that.

Starting point is 00:33:31 I don't. Rock-a-bye your baby with a Dixie melody. For good reason too. It became my first international hit actually. It reached top 40 in Australia and Canada as well. Pretty cool. Yeah, Australia is the big market. That's the one you want.

Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah, if you can make it in Australia, you can make it anywhere. That's what they all say. John Farn. I think they do use Australia as a testing market. And I think it does have a pretty good... I remember reading this a while ago that it's got a pretty good record for American artists to, if they do well here, they'll do well at home and elsewhere. So we're taste makers. Yeah, I think so. I think that's how I think of us. Trendsetters. Real trendsetters, yeah. And sometimes it doesn't happen

Starting point is 00:34:10 that way and bands are only big here. Like I think Blink 1.8 2 were always bigger here than anywhere else. Yeah. It's funny how you're so like you shape your sense of things based on your surrounding and stuff. So I'm just like, yeah, they're big. I think they're pretty big in America, but I think they're bigger here. And a lot of that surf punk stuff was relatively sold better in Australia than it did in America. I feel like Ronan Keating was very big here. Yeah. Well, I think it's a pretty good sign that they're big here the elsewhere when they end up being judges on our talent shows. Yeah take

Starting point is 00:34:51 that Kelly Roland. Good shallots another one I think there was definitely yeah. Seal. More of a household name here than anywhere else in the world. We had seal. Seal. Kissed by rose. That's funny. Anyway, I think I just sort of felt like mentioning that because I feel like we're so far away. And this is back in 1961, or yeah, 1961, that I'm sort of like, wow, even we had it. Cool, even we like to read back then.

Starting point is 00:35:20 That's cool. Yeah, I know that it does what sometimes it is like, oh, we don't always get the cool stuff, especially back in the day. Yeah, I know that it does what sometimes it is like oh we we don't always get the cool stuff especially back in the day. Yeah, we we'd miss some stuff and there are bands that are huge in America that overhear like I don't really know them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. Of course, this isn't it's a culture. Oh my god. It's so fun. Especially when there's so much overlap between a thousand America's one way anyway. There's overlapping our way, but it's funny when it the bits that don't make it over. Yeah Culture isn't it funny

Starting point is 00:35:54 We're talking about I love it. I love culture. Oh By the end of 1961 a wretha was named as a new star female vocalist in Downbeat magazine. It's not again, not the great title. New star female vocalist. And she released two more albums the following year. They were called The Electrifying Aretha Franklin

Starting point is 00:36:19 and The Tender, The Moving, The Swinging Aretha Franklin. That was a little long. It's a little long. The electrifying a wreath of Franklin, I don't, haste. I think I was a good artist, good artwork as well. Her like, you know, in lights. Yes, but how do you feel about the tender, the moving, the swinging a wreath of Franklin?

Starting point is 00:36:37 I wasn't, uh, this swinging didn't really, I wasn't expecting it. Okay. I'm not a person. So what would you be expecting after the tender, the moving, the... Beautiful. Oh, okay. That swinging.

Starting point is 00:36:52 Yeah. So I'm picturing our honest swing. Oh, okay. All right, good. That's good. You sell it with an image. Yeah, exactly. You have to.

Starting point is 00:37:00 Matt, what do you think of those album titles? I think they could use more words. If you could just add in to a Dixie tune at the end, a Dixie melody to all of them. I do that with every album. The electrifying Aretha Franklin with a Dixie melody. Yeah, now we're getting some ideas. Now that's great.

Starting point is 00:37:21 Electrifying is awesome. Electrifying is good. It was around this time that at 19 years old, she met and married Ted White, a businessman, a songwriter and producer. Her brother Cecil said that their father knew Ted was something of a shady character and that he thought the association would hurt Orita.

Starting point is 00:37:40 Apparently a lot of people thought this guy was a bit of bad news, but he seems like he was one of those very charming charismatic guys. She was sort of young and fell hard. Right. And they were like, oh, I don't know about this guy. But her career is going well.

Starting point is 00:37:56 And we may know, Arretha, as the queen of soul now, but the term was actually thrown around really, really early in her career. It was in the 1960s during a performance at the Regal Theatre, this radio personality called Purvis Span. Purvis Span. Too many S's in there. Sounds like he's going for a pun that didn't quite work. Purvis Span.

Starting point is 00:38:22 Purvis Span. It's terrible. Anyway, he announced that a wreath What? Purvispan. Purvispan. It's terrible. Anyway, he announced that Aritha should be crowned the Queen of Soul and even ceremonially placed a crown on her head. Oh, that's right. But yeah, early on, it was like, oh, you're... Yeah, no one can top you.

Starting point is 00:38:39 Incredible. I love how music is done at a real history of doing that, of crowning different artists, often arbitrarily like that. It's just like a marketing thing, but that one is definitely stuck. It's right child's as the genius of soul or something like that, I think. Yeah, I can't remember. Chuck Berry was the father of rock and roll. Yeah, fun, those nicknames, fun. Neil Young, the godfather of Grunge,

Starting point is 00:39:09 the good one. Yeah, they're all just like, just these titles, but it sort of comes maybe usually a bit later in their career. Yeah. You know, when they have like this huge big back catalog to draw from and you go, yeah, okay, you've been really influential. This is early on, like she's still a teenager.

Starting point is 00:39:27 And they're like, the queen, we got the queen here. Yeah, that's it. I expect you'd expect a teenager they'd call her the princess of pop or something. Straight to queen. Love it. By 1964, she recorded more pop music and her music's charting across R&B charts and also

Starting point is 00:39:45 easy listening. And apparently by the mid-60s she's making a hundred K a year performing in night clubs and theaters all over the country. Performing all the time, she's doing very, very well. I was so sure you were going to say this was one of those stories where the dad just took all the money. She's actually making money, which is cool. She's doing pretty well. Despite the success, the songs are charting well, but her albums aren't

Starting point is 00:40:08 performing super well. And Columbia felt their albums didn't really fit any easily identifiable demographics of listeners, because they included such a range of genres, like show tunes and love songs and blues and pop and R&B. it was sort of too hard to categorise her. So when her contract was up with Columbia, she moved over to Atlantic records and they'd wanted her for a while. And a guy called Jerry Wexler called up and spoke with Ted White, her husband who was now acting as her manager. And in November of 1966, she and Ted White sat down in Wexler's office and they made a deal. And a reflator wrote, I felt a natural affinity with the Atlantic sound, to me Atlantic

Starting point is 00:40:52 meant soul. So she felt like this is a good decision, we're going in the right direction. In January of 1967, she traveled to Muscle Shoals, Alabama to record at fame studios and recorded the song, I never loved to man the way I love you, backed by the Muscle Shoals' rhythm section to Sir Group of musicians. She only spent one day recording at fame because an altercation broke out between her manager and husband Ted White and the studio owner Rick Hall as well as one of the horn players and the session was abandoned.

Starting point is 00:41:28 The Rolling Stone article that I mentioned goes into this in a lot more detail about what happened. It seemed like the recording part went well and as soon as, as always, in her career, as soon as she opened her mouth and sang, the other musicians there were just sort of like, oh, shit, okay. Like they, they were like, she walked in a nobody. And then she started singing and they thought, okay, we're working with a genius here. Yep, sure. So they were all very, she won them over. But I think there was like drinking and some personality clashes, some very strong personalities and a fight broke out that night

Starting point is 00:42:03 and Tadda and Arretha left Alabama to go back to New York. And this is another great paragraph from the Rolling Stones article. It says, the events of that night, as much as the liberating recording session during the day, amounted to breakthroughs for Franklin. She wanted out of muscle shoals, no question. And probably not for the first time, wanted out of her marriage as well. They had been troubling rumors about the couple but for a time Franklin put up with what's rule. So things are about to change. Most weight loss programs are short-term fixes but managing your weight needs a

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Starting point is 00:47:10 So anyway, she goes back to New York and she still brings in the band that she was working with, the Muscle Shoals. And we'll never get over that name. Muscle Shoals. And she brings in her sisters, Irma and Carolyn for harmonies as well. So they put the finishing touches on the songs they'd worked on,

Starting point is 00:47:29 which were, I never loved a man the way I love you, and do right woman, do right man. And they release them two days later. They put the finishing touches on, release them. I never loved a man the way I love you, peaked at number one on Billboards R&B singles chart in April and number nine on the pop chart. They also released her version of Otis Redding's Respect, which reached number one on both the R&B and pop charts.

Starting point is 00:47:52 Did you know that was a cover? Yes. Yeah, it was originally written by a man. That was... It was fully changed as the meaning of the song, it's amazing. It's quite different too. So Otis Redding recorded it only a couple of years earlier in 1965. And it's great, but it's very, very different.

Starting point is 00:48:07 And a wreathless version put a twist on the original. Like it wasn't so much a yearning plea, it was like a demand, you know? Yeah. It was demanding respect. And so it was no longer a man's petition. It was something of a threat that switched gender tables. That's how it was described. It was something completely new.

Starting point is 00:48:24 Apparently when Jerry Waxe applied the new version for Otis Redding, he said, I just lost my song. Yeah, and he was bright. That's so switched on of him. Yeah. To know that instantly. And he's still like, he's still fun. Like, it's a great track still. But you're like, oh yeah, she wiped the floor with you. I mean, good job, Otis Reading, I guess.

Starting point is 00:48:50 Yeah, legendary musician. I guess. I was both, hers is great. And it became her signature song, and it was later hailed as a Civil Rights and Feminist Anthem. It was massive, so it was really big for her. In 1968, she won her first two Grammys, including the debut category for best female R&B vocal

Starting point is 00:49:11 performance. She toured outside of the US for the first time in May of that year as well, including an appearance in Amsterdam, where she played to a hysterical audience who covered the stage with flower petals. She was also on the cover of Time Magazine in June, like she's just having this massive year. It's all it's all happening. But also in 1968 she separated from her husband Ted White, with

Starting point is 00:49:34 whom she'd had a child as well called Ted Jr. Born in 1964. Every kid she's had was named after, one was after the grandfather one after, and the other two after the father. Yep, yeah, that's right. That's cool, keep it simple. Yeah. You get no pressure then. But it's good when you're like,

Starting point is 00:49:53 you just go on through a birth. You don't have to think of a name now. You've had plenty of time to think of it ahead of time, but you're right. It's like when you can't think of a lie, so you just sort of look around the room. In this case, they're like, what do you want to call it?

Starting point is 00:50:04 And they're like, oh, Ted. That goes. Ted. Uh, between that and bed. Ted or bed. Ted or bed. You pick. I've just looked up, uh, Otis Redding, just to see if he had a cool nickname, like all the ones we're talking about before. He had four, the big O, the mad man from Macon or Macone, rock House Redding and the King of Soul. Oh! And that's cool. He's the King to Aretha's Queen.

Starting point is 00:50:31 Oh, Queen. What was one before that? Big Red? No. Rock House Redding. Rock House Redding. Oh, that's pretty good. Big Reds, good.

Starting point is 00:50:39 Yeah, I still have a lot of big Reds from Big O, I think I just combined them. Anyway, so she's touring and becoming really successful, but as with so many greats She had battles in her personal life as well. She apparently formed a habit of Abusing alcohol as a way of coping with her failing marriage even falling off the stage at one time and breaking her arm Oh shit um yeah, not a singing arm. Oh god Oh, they were like I'm sorry sorry, you'll never sing again. I hold the mic with his arm. Can you use the other hand? No. I've never done it that way. She was, what people don't know is until that point, her whole act was singing with

Starting point is 00:51:21 a ventriloquist dummy. And then people said, okay, no, you can't use the dummy. Why don't you just sing there? Because really people are coming for the voice. They're buying your records for the voice. It was a real game-changing moment. It was a massive moment in her career. I'm sorry, I did forget, I did leave that out. So thank you for picking that up.

Starting point is 00:51:40 Initially, she was known as the queen of singing hands, up the dummies butt, but yeah, that was shortened later. But you know, back then everything, like the titles and stuff were longer. So we've got snappier now, better editors. So her success continues to grow into the 70s. She returned to gospel music in this two-night live church recording with the album Amazing Grace, and it sold more than two million copies. Just explode.

Starting point is 00:52:10 That's the load, it's just... What some have called her Golden Era at Atlantic ran from early 1967 to early 1972. And during that time, she was unquestionably the top solo female singing star, while also manifesting ongoing changes in Black America's consciousness. This is from the Rolling Stone article, obviously. I couldn't write anything quite so eloquent. Says the Black Revolution certainly, this is a quote from a reether. The Black Revolution certainly

Starting point is 00:52:40 forced me and the majority of Black people to begin taking a second look at ourselves, she later said, but I must say that mine was a very personal evolution, an evolution of the me and myself. I've gained a great deal of confidence in myself, which is nice. But these years also proved intense and variable for the singer. She was still in the aftermath of her volatile marriage to Ted White while starting a new relationship with her road manager Ken Cunningham. And in March of 1970, she gave birth to their son. Ken.

Starting point is 00:53:13 No, but. Well, it'd be Ken. It's like, it's like kick off, kick off. K-E-C-A-L-F. I think that's pronounced Ken. Yeah, that is Ken. Let's call him can. That's like how Americans say Craig like Craig.

Starting point is 00:53:28 Yeah. It's the same deal. We say, can. They say can. Can. Can. Can. So as a result of, you know, just a lot happening,

Starting point is 00:53:39 her life appearances were a bit more infrequent. And the sudden disappearance of Arretha was a frequent occurrence as Jerry Wexler. No one used the words, nervous breakdown, but we knew. So she was having a bit of a rough time in the mid-70s. And the late 70s were harder. And Arretha's albums weren't performing very well. She continued having R and B success with songs

Starting point is 00:54:01 such as, until you come back to me and I'm in love. But by 1975, her albums and songs were no longer top sellers. Atlantic, her albums with Atlantic, including Sweet Passion, which was in 1977, Almighty Fire in 1978, and LaDiva in 1979, Love LaDiva. They were bombed on the charts, And in 1979 she left Atlantic records. She married her second husband, actor Glyn Turman on April 9, 1978. Glyn Turman. That's her real name. That's an alien. Every now and then we come across one of these aliens who comes down, gets

Starting point is 00:54:42 in a human form, comes up with it. What they think is a human sounding name. That's, they've just missed them. They think we don't know. Glint. Glint term. Sorry. Sorry, alien. Not this time. No, this time. We're going to pass us. Yeah, that was a second marriage in 1978, but they separated in the early 80s. It was a bit of a shorter marriage. The late 70s were just an all-round terrible time. On Sunday, June 10th, 1979, just after midnight, her father, CL Franklin, was shot twice at Point Blank Range during what was believed to have been attempted robbery at his home in Detroit. He was taken to Henry Ford Hospital where he remained in a coma for the

Starting point is 00:55:28 next five years. Whoa! Whoa! And he passed away in 1984. He never woke up? No. I thought you were going to say days and I would have been like, that's a long time. Five years. Wow. Isn't that wild? So she lost her mum really young. Now her father's gone as well in the 80s. Oh, I mentioned five years not knowing if he was going to wake up. That's awful. Yeah, just terrible. But like we hear a lot with these kind of stories,

Starting point is 00:55:59 it's like every biopic, biopic you see, it's always like, there's a slump and there's hardship and then there's a come back. And 1980 was a very big year for a reether. After leaving Atlantic records, she signed with Clive Davis's Arista records. That same year she gave a command performance at London's Royal Albert Hall in front of Queen Elizabeth. Like that'd be cool. But I don't extend up in front of Queen Elizabeth. Like that'd be cool. But I do extend up in front of the Queen. I don't think any of it. Is that a little wreath to do? Did she do stand out?

Starting point is 00:56:31 Yeah, yeah. They were like, do you want a scene? She was like, no. But I've got some jokes. I got some good jokes. So, strap in, Lizzie. She also had an acclaimed guest role as a soul food restaurant proprietor and wife of Matt Gata Murphy in the 1980 comedy musical The Blues Brothers.

Starting point is 00:56:51 It's a good thing. She's great. She's so good in it. She performs Think It's Incredible. Her first record with a Rista Records was called Aretha. See? Oh yeah. Now you're getting it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:57:05 That was in 1988. She ends up, her last album is called A. So she needs... She keeps short in there. A to the tune of Dixie. The Dixie melody. Yeah. It featured the number three R&B hit United Together and her Grammy-nominated cover of

Starting point is 00:57:23 Otis Redding's, I can't turn you loose. So she's nominated for a Grammy for that. In 1981, he heard her version and he said, hmm, I'll keep this one. Sucked in. Nineteen-anyones love all the hurt away, love all the hurt away. That's good. Included her famed duet of the title track with George Benson, while the album also included her Grammy-winning cover of Sam and Dave's hold on. I'm coming. What is that song about? It's about your friend out the front beeping the horn at you. Hang on. Fucking hold on, I'm coming.

Starting point is 00:58:07 I can't find my keys. I need my keys, don't I? I've got my lip balm, I've got my wallet, I've got my phone, I can't find my fucking keys. Yeah, been there my friend. So yeah, she's one of Grammy for that. She achieved a gold record for the first time in seven years with 1982 album Jump To It. And this is such a good fucking album.

Starting point is 00:58:34 1985's Who's Zooming Who? Oh, how ahead of their time with A. Who's Zooming Who? Comes around everyone, Zooming Everyone. Everyone's who isn't Zooming, whom, you know? Hmm. Well, it became her first a Rista album to be certified platinum.

Starting point is 00:58:53 So she's like, fuck, she's coming back strong. In the 80s, she's coming. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, a roller coaster. Some flops, some hit records, which is working the entire time, she's performing. She's so prolific with albums. I'll tell you at the end how many she did. It's a lot. She became the first woman inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1987. And how wild is this? This is for Wikipedia, but I've read this story in several places. Franklin received global praise after her 1998 Grammy Awards performance. She'd initially been asked to come and perform in honour of the 1980 The Blues Brothers film in which she appeared with Dan Accro to John Belushi. Yes, we know Wikipedia, thank you. That evening, after the show had

Starting point is 00:59:42 already begun, Pavarotti himself contacted show producers and said he was too ill to perform the opera area, Nestle and Dorma, as planned. The show's producers were desperate to fill the time slot and approached Aritha Franklin with their dilemma. She was a friend of Pavarotti and had sung that song two nights earlier at the annual Music Heirs event.

Starting point is 01:00:05 She asked to hear Pavarotti's rehearsal recording and after listening, agreed she could sing it in the tenor range that the orchestra was prepared to play. So the orchestra's already ready to go and she's like, yeah, I can do it in that range. Over a billion people worldwide saw the performance and she received an immediate standing ovation. Oh no! She just did it Arya!

Starting point is 01:00:27 Now Pavarotti's lost to song as well. She's there to do something else and they're like, hey, could you sing this Arya? She's like, let me have a listen. Yeah, I could do that. Go, too. When am I going on five minutes? No, I was now. No, I was. We got it. Luckily, she performed literally that song two days early. With Pavarotti.

Starting point is 01:00:46 No, it was like, I think it was like a tribute to her. Oh, right. But she was like, I think she would have done it in a different sort of vocal range, but she's like, yeah, I can do 10, I know where it is. That is. That's a famous one as well as an I've heard of that. That's me, sir. I don't think I know a lot of Ari's, but I reckon I know that one.

Starting point is 01:01:04 I think it's one we know if we heard, but I don't recognise the name, but I'm sorry if you do at home and you're thinking I'm an ignorant idiot. Look, we all know different things. There's some real opera snobs out there. Is it opera? Oh no, I've made it worse. They're like, oh! So, yeah, that's not in reality. She did that in Wild. 2000's a big for her as well. 2009, she made international headlines for performing.

Starting point is 01:01:28 My country, Tizavvi, President Barack Obama's inauguration ceremony. In fact, I think the thing that people talked about the most was the hat that she wore. She wore a big, flashy hat. People like, whoa, look at that hat. That's the social media heroism. Before that, they're like, God, have voice. Another one. She's got a hat. Then it's memes.

Starting point is 01:01:49 Everyone's wearing that hat. You're gonna see that hat on other people. I think that's... Why don't you wear that hat? Look at this. I think there was like the Smithsonian wanted the hat. Okay. I kind of had it.

Starting point is 01:01:59 I don't recall the hat. Me either, but it was an iconic hat. In 2014, so this is just like back-to-back standing ovation. 2014, she performed to a standing ovation, a compilation of Adele's Rolling in the Deep, and Eight No Mountain High enough on the late show with David Letterman. And then I think that her cover of Rolling in the Deep

Starting point is 01:02:19 went on like an album of covers, a reether did it, an album, I didn't write it down. She did an album of covers of Davas and so she did that track and then it did very, very well too. But imagine being in Dell, who like that was off one of her early albums, is the first one? No, it's the second one. Second one, right? So 21. So she's 21 years old and Aretha Franklin is covering your track. Like that's... Oh my god. Sure. I mean, what a trippy, but also like a you, it comes out that you're on the album of

Starting point is 01:02:52 Davies and you're like, I'll hang you a second. You're like, what the fuck? I'm 21. Old and you're like, oh, I really need this song and I raise this like, my name. My name. It can never be. And you can never do it justice again, despite even the Dallas fantastic voice here. Buh, buh, mine now. Sorry. Bye bye. I collect these.

Starting point is 01:03:12 So. And this is the thing that made me want to do the report. At the 2015 Kennedy Center Honors, during the section honoring Carol King, Aretha performed, you make me feel like a natural woman, which Carol King co-wrote? And once again, a standing ovation. Oh, I've seen that the footage of that and Carol King's in the crowd, like, yeah!

Starting point is 01:03:36 Oh, Barack Obama is crying. Yeah, it's awesome. It is incredible. I saw it a couple of months ago, just on one of those nights, we were just like playing lots of different music and like YouTube clips on the TV and just listening to music really loud and that came on and I watched it and my like my jaw dropped and I had full body chills and tears in my eyes. It is amazing and I thought when I was writing this report I was was like, am I just, was I just,

Starting point is 01:04:05 you know, just catch me in the right mood? I watched it again two hours ago, same thing. Are you kidding? Sounds like a kind of performance if it was done on Australian idol Mark Holden would have given it a touch. Is that good? It's that good. You probably would have made a weird comment about our outfit or something, but he was still

Starting point is 01:04:23 just given it a touch, too. Adam was on American Idol, Randy would have given it. That's a yes from me dog. Which is rare. That's rare. That's a, wow. She's got no from me dog, but he flips it because it's that good.

Starting point is 01:04:36 It's a no from me dog. It's actually, it's incredible. She's 73. Oh my God. She comes out in this big fur coat, sits down at the piano, she starts playing. You're like, oh damn, she can still play. And then she starts singing and you're like, fuck! Because her voice is still so good. And yeah, Obama's tearing up, everyone's singing. And they all got those rainbow suspenders on for the Kennedy Awards. Yeah, they look cool somehow.

Starting point is 01:05:03 Those rainbow suspenders. It's pretty cool. And then like three quarters of the way through the song, she stands up, walks away from the piano, somebody else comes in to start playing. And so she's just singing in front of the crowd. And as she's sort of like getting really into it, she just takes off her fur coat and just like chucks it to the side. And everybody, the whole place just stands up.

Starting point is 01:05:24 And like the crowd is screaming and she's just singing it's honestly so amazing and that's why I was like, we should do a report on her and then nobody had suggested it and I was like, I'm gonna wait until I get free choice. As soon as you drop that jacket with a spits Sony and on the phone trying to secure it. We're gonna get that jacket, we missed out on the hat, I am not missing out on that jacket. I want that jacket. Did she sing, hey big spender after that?

Starting point is 01:05:49 Rainbows, the spenders. Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan. Down on table three. She did come out with like, she was just carrying her purse, like she just had a sparkly clutch with her. Like, she was like, I'll just pop it into this. A clutch, for listeners who don't know,

Starting point is 01:06:04 that's a handbag without a strap. I don't want that many years ago, and it's my favorite little factor. It's honestly like a less convenient handbag because now you have to carry it. It's a wallet. A big wallet. It's a big wallet.

Starting point is 01:06:19 It's a big purse, I guess. Anyway, an incredible performance, you absolutely should check it out. I'll leave it in the references so you can find it. Today's really mad. I'll just send it to you as soon as we're done. And then I'll watch you watch it. If that's okay.

Starting point is 01:06:32 That would be fantastic. Great. Reaction video. Should we get into reaction videos? Yes. Ever loved those. They make so much sense. I'm fully going to do one for the video.

Starting point is 01:06:44 I'll put it on our YouTube channel. Yes! And it's just sort of me sort of tapping my chin. Oh, okay. But are you gonna actually put the clip in the corner or you're just gonna have yourself? No, no. That'll be... It'll be just my face.

Starting point is 01:06:59 You won't be able to hear the music. I mean, you just go, oh the jacket. The jacket. Oh, the jacket, she mentioned that. Video of me nodding. Of course, I'll put the video in Jess. I want everyone to get the full experience. I was just asking.

Starting point is 01:07:18 Anyway, in 2010, Aritha Franklin can's the number of concerts to have surgery for an undisclosed tumor. Having lost three of her siblings to cancer, two of them, like within a couple of months of each other. She seemed pretty determined to fight and did a big comeback show the following year. Over the next two years, she had to cancel some performances, but did as many as she possibly could and announced that 2017 would be her final year touring, which I mean, she was 75. So I think that's fair. I think that's okay. And she's been going since she was like 11? Yeah. Like 12 years old she was out performing with her

Starting point is 01:07:55 dad. Crazy. Wow. You can retire at 75. That's okay. But sadly, on August 13, 2018, Aritha was reportedly, was reported to be gravely ill at her home. She was under hospice care and surrounded by friends and family, including Stevie Wonder, Jesse Jackson, and her ex-husband, Glenn Turman. Glenn Turman. Foreign home, Glenn Turman. Your time on this earth is so... So, it just beams up. phone home, Glenn Terman. Your time on this earth is so hot.

Starting point is 01:08:25 So it just beams up. Oh, I should also mention her partner up until this point as well was a guy called Willie Wilkerson. Oh, okay, another one. So she's got a family. She's got a time and that's aliens. But I read the Franklin diet at her home on August 16, 2018, aged 76. That's aliens. But I read the Franklin Diadeter home on August 16, 2018, aged 76, which is a fucking absolute loss.

Starting point is 01:08:53 And I just wanted to list a few of her achievements and recognitions here as well. This is quite a long list, and I haven't even included all of them. So she received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in 1979, her voice was declared a Michigan natural resource in 1985. Trying to monetize it somewhere else. Shokhan.

Starting point is 01:09:13 Maybe we could sell it to the Russians. She became the first woman inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1987. The National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences awarded her a Grammy legend award in 1991 and then the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award in 1994. She was the recipient of the National Medal of Arts in 1999 and bestowed the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2005. She became the second woman inducted into the UK Hall of Fame in 2005. In 2019, she was awarded a Pulitzer Prize special citation for her contribution to American music and culture for more than five decades, making her the first individual

Starting point is 01:09:52 woman to receive a Pulitzer Prize special citation. In 2010, she was ranked first on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 100 greatest singers of all time and ninth on the list of the 100 greatest artists of all time and ninth on the list of the 100 greatest artists of all time. She released 40 studio albums. 40, well, you happy with that number? 40, I'm so happy with that. God, it measured it was like 41, oh, 40.

Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah, please, no posthumous releases. It's gonna happen, you'll be curious. Yeah, there probably already has to be honest, but yeah, damn it. She was nominated for a Grammy Award 44 times. What? And one, 18. Wow. Should be up there then.

Starting point is 01:10:31 Up there with Nora Jones. So many Grammy. There's just one photo that I remember of Nora Jones, like Cuddling. Well, like, you won like 10 or something, you won 9 to 2. Yeah, that's what I don't know why, but that's all I associate the Grammy's with. Norwiches. Norwiches. Hugging a pile of...

Starting point is 01:10:49 And just to wrap it up nicely. President Obama, after this performance of a natural woman, you make me feel like a natural woman at the 2015 Kennedy Center Honours, he said, American history wells up when Aretha sings nobody embodies more fully the connection between the African American Spiritual the blues R&B rock and roll the way that hardship and and sorrow were transformed into something full of beauty and vitality and hope And Aretha Franklin later recalled that night, that 2015 Kennedy Center honors as one of the best nights of her life. Oh, that's awesome.

Starting point is 01:11:29 And that really nice. But yeah, so that's sort of my report. I know I rushed through a lot of the back end. I'm in to say up the top that I was going to be focusing a lot on her early life because I knew nothing about it at all. I didn't know heaps about her personally anyway, but obviously I was familiar with her music,

Starting point is 01:11:46 and I knew who she was, but yeah, I wanted to kind of focus on kind of those formative years, but far out, there's still so much more you could talk about with Aritha Franklin. She had a really fascinating and hard and, yeah, a difficult but impactful life. May is a great story. What a legend.

Starting point is 01:12:08 Can I read you one thing I just found when I try to find a hat before, I found this article which I think you guys like. Oh, I also looked up Glenn Termin. He's an actor that I recognize and he's from so many things. Yeah, but he's also an alien. An alien, yeah.

Starting point is 01:12:23 No wonder he's so good in TV. He's got he's using his alien powers. It was even in multiple episodes of murder she wrote in the 80s. Oh my goodness done at all. Famous. So fine. Everything is in Gremlins. Do you play a gram. He's in he's done it all. He's in House of Lies, the red line, so much stuff, Fargo. All right, anyway, I found this article, the first thing that came up when I Googled Aretha Franklin's hat. And this is the article, and it's written

Starting point is 01:12:57 just after she died. The Queen of Solary, this is in people.com. The Queen of Solarytha Franklin died on Thursday at the age of 76 of advanced pancreatic cancer of the neuroendocrine type. And ever since the news broke, moving tributes have been pouring in, remembering the legendary singer and her most memorable performances. From her five minute long national anthem at the 2016 Detroit Lions game to her Blues Brothers Camino, she had made, she had many unforgettable moments, but there is one image from recent years that people will always remember and it has to

Starting point is 01:13:32 do with their style. During Franklin's performance at President Braco Barmer's inauguration, her hat immediately stole the show and became the day's most popular meme. And the designer behind the top up, Luke Song of Mr. Song Millenery, spoke to people about his close relationship with the queen, the whole article is about the hat. About the hat. She just died. Fuck it out. So they're like, obviously she's had a lot of unforgettable moments, but the thing that

Starting point is 01:14:03 people remember most is that hat. From a couple of years ago, here's our interview with the guy who created the hat. It's like a sim... That feels like something from the sim... And it's from the sim... A dynamite carbon rod. Or on the sim...

Starting point is 01:14:17 It's when they've got Malibu Stacey. This one comes with a cheap hat. And it has a hat. Well, the kids... And it's made this like tear... tear each other apart to get a crappy doll with a shape hat. Uh-huh. That is, I couldn't believe it. Anyway, that's pretty funny. I mean obviously people.com's pretty high quality journalism. I also looked up, because I was just fact checking myself when I said that Bunk when I two and good Charlotte would be in Australia. That was true at the side of their careers.

Starting point is 01:14:49 And then I guess that was kind of my point in a way. Australia's like a testing ground. Their first albums, Chartered in Australia, New Zealand. A lot higher. Cheshire I cat for Blinkrant 2 didn't Chartered American, it didn't Australia. And they do branch Chartered Higher in Australia than anywhere else in the world, and then they started climbing the charts. So, hoping that a few people have deleted some tweets in the last hour.

Starting point is 01:15:13 I think so. And good charts are the same. They charted in the top hundred only in Australia, New Zealand with their first album. Actually, I live in America, and I have all of their album. Um, actually, I live in America and I have all of their album. Okay. Yep. I'm talking about a bigger scale. So defensive. So defensive. Oh, yeah. I, uh, yeah, that is, I don't know why that was that they, it feels like surely you get your start in your home country, then you go abroad, but yeah, doesn't always go that way. And that is true for Australian acts often as well. They'll prove themselves overseas before Australia goes, oh, you'll be good with that. We've always loved you. We've always had claim and reason.

Starting point is 01:15:51 Yeah, for sure. But, Aritha Franklin, what a life. That is amazing stuff, Jess. What a hat. That's what I got at it, apparently. There wasn't enough focus on the hat for my lucky. I'm guessing you're gonna do a full report on the hat. Yeah, I feel like I did want to burn it here. Yeah. focus on the hat for my walk. I'm guessing you're gonna do a full report on the hat.

Starting point is 01:16:05 Yeah, I feel like I did want to burn it here. Yeah. And I just sort of felt like there's enough in it for a full report. So yeah, that's probably what I'll be doing next week is a follow up on the Franklunds hat. Great. Oh, that's kind of.

Starting point is 01:16:18 That's a kind of white for that. This was a good little sort of prequel episode. Yeah, it was like a little taser. Yeah. But yeah, it's really hard with them, with a lot of like, you know, biographies of artists like this, with the career spanning five decades and it's just so hard to capture everything that they do. Oh, I mean, 40 albums.

Starting point is 01:16:37 How are you ever going to mention those? Come on, I'm just calm. Exactly. And it's also pretty tedious to be like, and then in 78, this album came up. Yeah, and just listing 78 this album came in. Yeah, and just listing what a chart of that. It's not all. No, so I hope that gave you a bit of an overview.

Starting point is 01:16:52 Like I said, there's an amazing article in the Rolling Stone, which was really, really helpful for putting all this together. So I'll link to that if you want to read a bit more about it as well. And check out our YouTube channel, youtube.com, such too, I'm on pod for my reaction together. I can't wait! I can't wait, I want to see. I really hope you cry.

Starting point is 01:17:13 I really hope you do. I want to see the goose bumps. I'm going in with high expectations. Yeah, I'm going to insult you a bunch first, just to make you fragile. Okay. And then show you something and then hope that that helps. Yeah, and then hopefully it'll be a touchdown from me, dog. Hahaha.

Starting point is 01:17:31 Hahaha. Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite part of the show where we get to get some facts and some quotes and some questions. It has little jingle goes like this. Fat Quadal Quisty. I always remember the thing. and some quotes and some questions. It has little jingle goes like this. Fak kwodokwist. Bih. I always remember the D. That's why I'm the queen of Jingles.

Starting point is 01:17:50 Oh yeah, yeah. I'm the king of the D. Jingle queen. But she did the king of the D. Over four minutes, a version of the anthem because of she was just doing like vocal improvisation. So I should do that more with the jingle, I think. Oh, have you seen the,

Starting point is 01:18:04 have you seen the, the anthem I actually haven't, but I'm obviously a great voice, but is it slightly tedious by the end? I'm sure it would be. I haven't seen it either. Or I think I did ages ago, but I didn't watch it while researching this. But what is it usually go for a minute, a minute and a half? That's a lot of flourishes. and a half. There's a lot. That's a lot of flourishes. Do you think we're going to have, like our generational have those kind of legendary titles down the track, like Beyonce and Mariah Carey and stuff like with those big voices? Will they end up being seen like that? Or that that's sort of a thing of the past? Yeah, they'll be like Spotify queen of pop or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll be sponsored by

Starting point is 01:18:57 Pepsi's queen Legolas board Broncos Vapolist of the decade. You're like, okay. Anyway, so the way to get involved in the fact quote or question section is to get involved on the patreon.com slash do you go on pod website and if you sign up on the Sydney Sharnberg level, it's one of the higher levels, you have to give us a fact or quote or a question. There's multiple levels on the Patreon though and you can depending on what you want to pay or support us, you get different rewards on different levels. But those on the fact quote or question level, the Sydney Sharnberg level get to give us a factor quote or a question, make sense.

Starting point is 01:19:42 Firstly, this week, this one comes from Rachel Johnson, who's given herself the title of executive in charge of pipes and blue bell gathering. Oh. Ooh. Blue bell, is that a kind of cheese? No, what's blue bell? For a flower.

Starting point is 01:19:58 I only know that because there's blue bell, you can go gather blue bells in the Sims. And pipes? Is it all a sim... Is it bells in the Sims. Oh, and pipes. Is it all a sim... Is it plumbing in the Sims? Well, you they have toilets. Thank goodness. I'm sure they close the door as well. And sinks.

Starting point is 01:20:16 The doors just close behind them. You don't get the option to leave the door open. Disappointing. Yeah. Rachel, I don't fully understand your title, but I'm so glad you're here to fulfill that role. It's been sitting vacant for quite a while. So she is Rachel, and Rachel is given us a quote, and her quote is her favorite quote, and this is it. Everybody remember where we Is it the issue of?

Starting point is 01:20:45 No, it's actually taken from Captain James T. Kirk in Star Trek 4, the voyage home, and it is a very practical saying, which I use all the time. It's fun to say to people who know it's from Captain Kirk, but it's also fun to say to people who don't realize it's a quote. That's fun. It's funny the way. And that's funny that he would say that in Stature. Absolutely. But often when I'm parking, I'll say, remember, we parked in the itchy lot. Oh, yes. So I get it. You do say that a lot, Dave. A little too much, man. Yeah, I say even when we're not in the the car. Or at a plane and Dave's like,

Starting point is 01:21:26 we're everywhere in the back. Like, shut up, Dave. We've just been on a 14 hour flight. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, I never stopped talking. And we love you for it. Thank you, Rachel. Yeah, that's great.

Starting point is 01:21:42 I love that it's such a practical thing that you can bring it up all the time. I love it. Yeah. Thank you so much, Rachel. Yeah, that's great. I love that it's such a practical thing that you can bring it up all the time. I love it. Yeah. Thank you so much Rachel. I'd also love to thank Joe Flashman, who's given himself the title of the head custodian of making sure all mogwais acquired by the podcast doger on are not fed after midnight exposed to light

Starting point is 01:22:01 or gotten wet. They're the ones attending to Grahamlands, right, right? I mentioned gremlins just before. You did. What is his name is? Glim. Glims in it, is that right? Glim. Yeah, Glim.

Starting point is 01:22:12 Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. Glim. I love it big time. So Joe has given us a fact and his fact is in the game Fallout 3 you take part in a quest where you explore an area occupied entirely by clones of a man named Gary. Oh, you've got my attention. Okay. By the time you encounter them, they are all deranged, attacking anyone not named Gary and communicate only by saying Gary with different inflections That is a great fact. That sounds like a lot of fun

Starting point is 01:22:52 Gary, Gary, Gary, Gary Gary G from the UK Goody fine if he's in there Gary Gary, I wish all Gary's will like Gary J. Yeah, I mean, if only. Thank you Joe for that great fact. I had no idea about that. Absolutely cool. And thank you for all your work keeping those mokwais dry and hungry.

Starting point is 01:23:16 You can't put them in the microwave or do you put them in the microwave to get rid of them? Gremlins. Yeah. Wasn't it a Gremlins and a microwave? I've never seen Gremlins. No, I think my brother was watching it, and that's all I remember is, I think there was one in a microwave.

Starting point is 01:23:31 You can let me know. Cool. Yeah. I give you permission to at me about that and that alone. Okay. Thanks so much, Joe. Next one comes from Sriraj Pyrrhus. He's finally, it must have been real tedious because I've said Surage's name a lot on our various podcasts

Starting point is 01:23:49 And he's one of our big supporters. We've been saying wrong and he's he's finally given us a by the way It's it's like penis but with an R so Pyrus Surage Pyrus Thank you, Surage. She's given himself the title of Inspector of Vegemite Shape Imports, East Asia Division. Oh, love that important role. And Sirage has given us a fact. And his fact is your toe print is unique, like your fingerprint, not as useful in this post-COVID world.

Starting point is 01:24:20 Oh. That may, I guess that makes sense to me. I've never really thought about it. But toe prints are also unique, much like a thing. And there's a couple of hundred patrons out there. The first year we sent out Christmas cards, I stamped them all with my toe. Oldie, how they've got it.

Starting point is 01:24:34 They've got it on record. It took so long. It was, yeah, you did full days of work. And I converted them all into reindeer's, do you know? Yeah, that was honestly dumb. That was one of the biggest times. That was dumb how much time we put into that. That was one of the biggest undertakings

Starting point is 01:24:49 of our entire lives. That took several days. Yeah, I reckon it was more than several days. Yeah, it was fast. We wrote out like what, two, three hundred Christmas cards by hand wrote a message, did the addresses. I put my toe print on it and then let them dry and then Matt turned them into rain tears.

Starting point is 01:25:07 That's funny because I mean, normally Christmas is about spending time with family, not that year. That year it was about us riding postcards and turning toe prints into rain. And it started cute because we all sat around the table and we had some music playing and we're like, Yay! And then we realized this size of the task we had taken on it. We know we thought we could knock it off in a few sessions together. Fuck an idiot!

Starting point is 01:25:34 We ended up having a look separately. I took him, I went away for a family Christmas that year and I was literally missing out on dinner. I'd come in for dinner and then I'd have to leave to keep riding. I was, it was such a stressful Christmas. So if you're wondering why they don't have toop prints on them anymore, it's because we have families. Please let us see them please.

Starting point is 01:26:02 Please let us have Christmas with our family. I don't think anyone's demanded the fabrics. I guess everyone's like, that's a weird thing they all did not even care. No one wanted them in the first place. So I can't but we did it anyway because we're so stupid. I could not tell you even why we did it. I can't tell you but we did. I think it was a throwaway line you said on an episode Yeah, sorry everyone that was me then I ruined it ruined our Christmas Yeah, they would have been there definitely a few people out there would be like I can't touch this toast grossing out Why did you ruin this perfectly?

Starting point is 01:26:42 Well, we've got one last fact quota question and it is a question so we collected all three once again this week. We did that last week as well. We had a fact two facts, one quote and here is a question that comes from Odie Matthews who is the CEO of finally knowing what a CEO might do. So good to have you. That's one of us. We need you. And Odie's question is I haven't been able to think of anything. Okay. It's promising. That's on you. So on God, we need you. And Odie's question is, I haven't been able to think of anything. Okay. It's promising. It's promising.

Starting point is 01:27:09 So here's a random question that came to me today. Well, you've contradicted yourself earlier there. Yeah. You do think it's something. I haven't been able to think of anything. So here's something I thought of. Odie's question, what is your favorite fun fact you can remember from a report?

Starting point is 01:27:23 Oh, you guys and Gals are the best. I'd pluralize GAL there, didn't mean to. Thanks for making the weeks of 2020 a little better. I think you, lady. That's very nice. Favorite fun fact. That's really hard, because I just don't retain anything.

Starting point is 01:27:39 Mm. Yeah, I have to think of a topic and then go from there. Yeah. I mean, all I'm topic and then go from there. Yeah. I mean, all I'm thinking about right now is Orita Franklin once wore a hat. Yeah, obviously, that's the most fun fact, but apart from that, what else can you remember?

Starting point is 01:27:53 Dave, can you remember anything? You have a bit of memory, I feel. I have a new crush, no crush. Just the whole reason the show basically started, which is me stumbling upon the fact that the Mona Lisa is only famous because some like stole it before that. No one really gave a shit about it.

Starting point is 01:28:08 That's a fun fact. Yeah, it's pretty good. I like that someone sold the Eiffel Tower twice. Yeah, that's fun. That's fun. That is a fun fact. What about Phil Hartman designed the logo for Cosby Stutt? Yeah. That is cool. That is cool. That was a good one. Yeah, there's so many, there's so many weird things that come up that are completely unrelated to the topic, but they're just, well, they're obviously they're a bit related, otherwise they don't come up.

Starting point is 01:28:36 But you know, like there's just so many things that you're just like, ah! So what about, it's not as well known as you might think that Mari Curie invented penicillin? Yeah, there you go. I assumed that was like knowledge that everyone had. But it's not. And every time we mentioned on the show, we'll get people saying she didn't.

Starting point is 01:28:53 And it just confirms how much people don't know. I'm just like, Marie Curie invented penicillin. Excuse me, have you listened to that report? Hmm. We clearly established she invented penicillin. Yeah, it was very penicillin, heavy. Yes.

Starting point is 01:29:07 Yeah, I reckon any, you give me any topic. I'll have a fun fact from what I reckon. You reckon? Or nearly every. The Moss Man. The Moss Man. I don't remember it all. The Moss Man, he, when he turned into dust on the road,

Starting point is 01:29:24 they reckon that he left behind a little pile of dust and they're like, what does it mean? But it was probably just some dust on the road but they're like, oh, he's left this pile of dust. Proof. All right, Matt, one more. I'm Julia Child. Oh, well, some of that an incredible snap.

Starting point is 01:29:43 It's a crunch god damn it. It's a crunch guard, damn it. That's a crunch. Damn it. Damn it. And she was in a film with another Julie, or Julie. What about Julia Chah? Didn't start cooking until her 30s and then became one of the most famous chefs in the world.

Starting point is 01:29:57 I'm just into my 30s and I don't know how to cook and I'm planning to become one of the most famous chefs in the world. Yes, yes, Dave. I'm a big fan of those sort of things. I'm vaguely embarrassed by that episode. Every now and then I'm like, hopefully, obviously no one thinks, listens to that and goes, goes, drinking too much is cool. It's really, it's a pretty good ad for drinking a moderation, which I've done ever since

Starting point is 01:30:20 that day. Got a bit out of hand that day. Apologies, 21, who used to think that I Got a bit out of hand that day. Apologies 21 who used to think that I was a cool, calm, collected guy. I was hoping it would all... I listened into that one and went, oh no. I was hoping it would more be a lesson for you to always listen to Jess.

Starting point is 01:30:36 I wanted you to say. I said, you have plans to drink that day. Why don't we record a different time? And you said, no, it'll be right. I know, that's not what happened. We had to record that day, why don't we record a different time? And you said, no, it'll be wrong. I know that's not what happened. We had to record that day because you had to cancel the one just before that. And it was the last possible time we had to record before it went out. Is the only option. Right. I was I was like, this isn't a good idea, because I will be coming from a day of drinking, but it was the only time

Starting point is 01:31:02 if we had that's how I remember it, but would you trust my memory on the topic? No. Possibly not, but I'm pretty sure that's what happened. I mean, it doesn't really matter. It was a lot of fun. It was a fun day. I definitely had a couple too many towards the end of the day, but it was fun to learn about that great woman of the jeffery industry. Yes. Okay, well, it's also now time to thank a few of our other patrons. You know we're coming with a little game here, Bopper. Have you had any thoughts on this? Well, I mean, it feels hard because something that we always end up doing is like naming their album.

Starting point is 01:31:40 Oh, yeah. You know, but I feel like we've done that before. But we could give them a queen of soul type. Oh yeah, great. A title, a royal title. Yes. Doesn't have to be music, I guess. Could be anything. Could be anything. All right. Well, if I may, I'd love to kick this off. Yeah. And this one's from someone who gives no address, but I think he's Australian, and he goes by the name of Brian Andrews. I love the name Brian, big fan of the name Brian. Brian Andrews, brand-drews. Brand-drews. And Brian is the Lord of Pool. Oh, we talk in swimming or table. Table. Love that. A lot of people.

Starting point is 01:32:25 It's a real table, pool shark. Oh, he's a shark in the pool and on the pool. Yeah. That's a good one. So he sort of, if he's a shark, that means that he's good at looking like he's not good until money's on the table. Yes. And then all of a sudden he's very good.

Starting point is 01:32:41 Yeah, he like, he hangs around the pool table and then someone says, do you want to play? And he plays pretty shit at first. And then I say, let's make this interesting. And they put some money down and he just, he just absolutely wipes the floor with them. And then as he's chalking his cue before putting the black, he says, interesting enough for you.

Starting point is 01:33:01 And then he looks at them. He doesn't break eye contact with them. and he slots the black without even looking at it Yeah, it's the bad boy and then they go and then they go then they go that's after the full game Then they go double or nothing so they do that and then again not breaking our contact he pockets every ball the first shot This break he just knocks him all in he says Uh, had enough. Yeah, hot enough for you. Brian's a badass. Love that about you, Brian. Thank you so much for your support. I'd also love to thank from Ottawa in Ontario, Canada, Maka, Birder, Damn it.

Starting point is 01:33:46 BRDA, uh, Birder. Oh yeah, da. I'm so sorry, Maka. Oh, Maka. Maka B. Maka B. Maka Birder.

Starting point is 01:33:56 Dave, any ideas? The King of Bird Houses. Oh! He makes... He's got a back order on his bed, hasn't he? They're incredible. I'm talking a six-month waitlist minimum. Holy shit.

Starting point is 01:34:13 Yeah, he is in hot demand. He wants a bit one for an EMU, and it was basically a small house. It was, yeah, it was like bigger than my apartment. The EMU is better than you do. I don't sweat off the bedroom. Yeah, that's right. How do you know?

Starting point is 01:34:28 Special room for his for their big blue eggs. Yeah, an egg room. European laundry. His favorite song. Mark's favorite song is, of course, birdhouse in your soul. Yes. Why they might be dry.

Starting point is 01:34:43 And he's so he's the king of birdhouses and very good friends with the king of soul Otis Reading. And together they are the kings of birdhouse in your soul. Great work, Micah. Thank you, Micah. And what do we do through each of this? What do we do three each of this? Well finally for me Why I'm the worst pronunciator and I've got two crackers all right I'd also love to thank from London in Great Britain Steven

Starting point is 01:35:18 Sockier so glue Sockier so glue sockier so glow Soak you so glue so you're so glad Oh, I was gonna Girl, I'm pretty good. Yeah Steven soky a glow So Steven soky a so glow Sorry Steven, but thank you. I honestly think you're probably quite used to it At this point, but I'm sorry Steven and thank you Um, Steven of and thank you. Steven, of course.

Starting point is 01:35:45 Is the okay. I'll kick it off with the title, and then you just hit me, pop okay? Yep. Hit me with what you're doing. I'm clearing my mind, clearing my mind. Okay. So he is the juke of National Parks of...

Starting point is 01:36:02 That's quite a portfolio. That is a beautiful portfolio. I'm talking all national parks globally. Oh shit. That's a huge realm for a juiceton. So he is busy like 10 months of the year, various engagements at national parks all over the world. And he's like, world famous, pays very well. And people are just like, holy fucking shit, the jook is coming.

Starting point is 01:36:33 To our national park. I'm so sorry, I panic there's a park across the road, and I was looking at the park at the window. You've got a national park across the road. Just a park. Wow. If you live near your Samadhi? Yes.

Starting point is 01:36:47 What a great spot. Say hi to Sam for me. Shall I pick up the mantle here? Yes, please go for it. I would like to thank from MS. What are we talking? Minnesota here? Is that what we're talking?

Starting point is 01:36:59 You know the States of America. Oh, MS is tricky. You got, it could be Minnesota. It could be Missouri. It could be. It's Mississippi. Yes. And my SSI, SS could be Missouri. It's Mississippi Mississippi. MISSIS IPPI. And from I do it in the rhythm of M.I. double S.I. double S.I. double P.I. It's all about you isn't it and you're putting it.

Starting point is 01:37:18 Dave what rhythm do you do it in? You're fucking pathetic. A Dixie melody. A Dixie melody. And a Dixie melody. Dave can you do it in a Dixie melody? A Dixie melody? A Dixie melody? And a Dixie melody? Dave, can you do it in a Dixie melody? And my guess is, say, say, say, beep, beep, aye. Ah, okay, that's interesting. I hate it. I never knew what Dixie was until now. Well, I mean, it's just so sweet.

Starting point is 01:37:34 I thought I did, but it turns out I did not. Well, that was from a video game that I played as a child, an educational one, so it wasn't fun. I think Mom was from Alvin and the Chipmunks when they had a, they competed in a spelling bee and that's how I remember that. Right, and I actually looked at... I learnt mine from Sorceaer in Mississippi, Sorcea.

Starting point is 01:37:54 Wow. Joseph Barshop taught me. You had not said their name and we were just going on about Mississippi. So, sorry, Joseph. Thank you so much. Who is? So, it's a bar shop. Geez, I can't wait to be allowed back into bar shop. Joseph is the prince of frogs.

Starting point is 01:38:16 Frog prince. Yeah, the frog prince. Wow. What happens if you kiss, like, they sort of kiss him and he turns into a human kind of scenario? Yeah, that's right. So, you kiss him and he stays a human when he kisses him. It's really weird. Holy shit.

Starting point is 01:38:28 So he never, he never takes frog form. He claims that he was once a frog. And he'd kiss him. He claims, you're, I mean, you're coming up with this and you've built into this that he's possibly lying. He tells me it was one, I can't fact check it because I never saw him as a frog. I take him at his word, but if you do kiss him, he will stay human. That's one of his weird traits.

Starting point is 01:38:50 Yeah. And can he control frogs or anything like that? Oh, yeah, and he's also a frog collector. A frog collector? Oh, wow, he can control them any. He sounds like a psychopath. Yeah. I'm one of it nervous about this.

Starting point is 01:39:01 Has he just got frogs in jars or something? No, he collects, I mean, he treats them with absolute respect because he once was a frog. He, he, he's worried that the other frogs that he keeps are also humans. So, just in case he smooches them. He smooches them every day because he's not sure what day it is.

Starting point is 01:39:19 It's just in case. That'll be broken, the charm will be broken, or whatever, the enchantment. But also, like, it's always true love's first kiss. So he's gotta give the frogs time to fall in love with him. Oh, that's true. To really get to know him and go,

Starting point is 01:39:31 oh my God, he's actually great. And then the next time he kisses them, it works. Yeah, so each day he's like, oh, I'm gonna have to make extra special effort for dinner tonight. Yeah. You can't always force love, that's what I'm saying. You know?

Starting point is 01:39:44 You can't hurry love. You can't hurry love You just have to wait Love don't come easy It's a game of give it take scrabble All right, I'm your Joseph Bathshop. I I love frogs. So I think you're doing frogs work there. Thank you so much I would also like to thank from down that in the Australian capital territory AC team. It is James O'Rourke. Jimmy O, the big O. The big O. Oh my goodness. All right. What if I do a sit you up here, Matt?

Starting point is 01:40:17 I'll say something and you bring it home. Okay. All right. Let me blank my mind. Okay. I'll close my eyes. Let's see where I go. He is. Mm-hmm. Let me go. James O'Rourke, Lord of... Flannel. Oh, love it, it's a very practical material. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:40:37 Do you smell the invent flannel? Yeah, wonder, maybe it's his empire. Very well. Yeah, he's got a flannel empire. Flannel empire. I've just taken the flannel sheets off the bed and I miss them. Oh yeah, because it's eating up here.

Starting point is 01:40:51 Yeah, it's quite warm today. And bloody, you know, I got the cotton sheets on there and I'm like, you know, it's snuggly. So thank you, James. But I'm not so that I like crisp sheets on a hot night. Chris. Chris. I wouldn't know. I'm very, that I like crisp sheets on a hot night. Chris. I would know I've very rarely got crisp sheets, but it sounds good.

Starting point is 01:41:10 It does sounds good. Sounds like something a rich person would have. If your sheets can make a beautiful snap, that is the best. You're probably over-starched. What kind of thread count we talking? Oh, six. Yeah, that's good. Wow.

Starting point is 01:41:28 I don't know how many is good, but six, seven, eight. Ten. Is that getting ridiculous? Ten thread count. Oh my god. You are boozey. A little bit of a bobo. Thank you James.

Starting point is 01:41:41 Congratulations on your flannel empire. Appreciate that, Jimmy O'Rourke. And for me, I would finally like to thank from Richmond here in Victoria, it is Caitlin Hall. Caitlin Hall from Targaryen. I would say she is the Dame of Dominoes. Oh, pizza or game. Little of both.

Starting point is 01:42:02 Interesting. Started with a game. The pizza came in, she said, actually, I'm the damn dominoes around here. And they said, all right, we bow down to you. Here's a percentage of every franchise. Wow. I had dominoes, pizza last night.

Starting point is 01:42:13 Oh. It used to be like a fun guilty treat. Yeah. And I think I've had it too much that it's not that anymore. It's not as good anymore. Is it always not as good anymore? Well, I don't know. I've just had the same experience that it used to be like, it was my go-to shit pizza.

Starting point is 01:42:27 Yeah. It's like shit isn't it? It's like a little bit fake tasting or something, but it's... Yeah, yeah. But last couple of times it's been undercooked. I'm like, I ordered thin and crispy. They've lost their way. Well, I mean, really, you've got to take that up with Caitlin Hall.

Starting point is 01:42:43 Caitlin Hall? I mean, feel free to send me a pizza and I'm happy to change my opinion. If you are, as you say you are, the god of dominoes pizza. Well, the day. The day. The day. Yeah, the god. So we would have really come home strong if we finished with a god. Well, there's still time because I'm

Starting point is 01:43:05 gonna thank some people. Awesome. I would love to thank from Kuhnja in Tasmania, Angriest Boy. Which honestly, kind of confusing from your parents, let's say. Yeah, if they, I mean your surname's boy, don't name him angry. No, I don't. Could have been best. Sonny. Sonny, best boy. What do you know?

Starting point is 01:43:33 Greg. Greg boy. Greg boy. Greg boy. Yeah, that's a name. Gary boy. Oh. Oh, Gary boy.

Starting point is 01:43:40 Oh, Gary boy. I think Daddy boy to Gary boy, that's good stuff. Yeah. Oh, Gary boy. I sing Danny Boy to Gary Boy. That's good stuff. Oh, Gary boy. All right, angriest boy. Geez, they've sent a high standard for them as well. Not just an angry boy. All right, angriest boy is the...

Starting point is 01:44:01 What's one of the other ones? Where have you got Juki? You got... I like, like, what about Baron? Baron, good job. Yeah. Come on Dave, Baron of... Can I do one, can I do one? Oh, yes. Baron of confetti.

Starting point is 01:44:13 Oh, confetti is not angry at all. Oh, so every time he enters a room. But it is, it is... It's a confetti canons go. It's angry if you use this weapon though. Oh yeah. He's weapon-wise, confetti can into the face. Please aim away from face and angryest boy says no, I am confetti where I want I met. Hey, this boy isn't it funny to have an angry

Starting point is 01:44:36 Yes boy from Tasmania such a beautiful island state beautiful place. What are you so angry about? Hey, you okay? Did I just talk? Well, maybe it's one of those ironic names. Maybe it's a real sweetheart. Maybe it's a she, you know? Just really fucking with you. I'm sorry, so many questions.

Starting point is 01:44:56 So many questions, but we, you know, one thing we don't question is I love for you and our appreciation of your support, angriest boy. Thank you very much. Enjoy that confetti. I'd also like to thank from Norwich in Great Britain. Ah ha!

Starting point is 01:45:12 Ah ha, I feel like. I say this every time. Oh, I wonder if they know. I'd like to thank Georgina Reynolds. Georgina Reynolds. Georgina Reynolds. So, real rock solid name. I like that one thank Georgina Reynolds. Georgina Reynolds. Georgina Reynolds. The real rock solid name, like that one.

Starting point is 01:45:28 Georgina Reynolds. Georgina Reynolds is, of course, the god of light. Whoa. Isn't it important, like the sun? Yeah, all of them. Anything that gives light. What do you mean? Yeah. Anything that gives light.

Starting point is 01:45:46 Yep. So like me when I walk into a room. Yes, she does that, that's Georgina's work. I thought that was just my presence. No. Oh. Wow. She does get up on you.

Starting point is 01:45:59 Wow, Georgina, thank you. Thank you for that. That's a big task. Wow. Cool. That's just makes it happen. Amazing. All right. Well, I'll get nothing to add to that. Thank you so much for your support, Gina Reynolds from Norwich. And I'd finally love to thank from... Is this Japan? Yes. Pan. Fantastic. Nigata, Japan. Melody, cook. Oh, Dixie Melody.

Starting point is 01:46:23 Nigata, Japan, Melody, Cook. Oh, Dixie Melody. No. Ha ha ha. Dixie Melody and Julia Child's Cook. There's a bit of everything there. She's gone all. Okay, I'll set one of you up. Okay, okay.

Starting point is 01:46:39 What about we do a double? What does that mean? Double bang out. No, so Jess is, she's the blah blah of, and I'll say something and Matt says the other thing. Great, okay, thanks. Something that goes to you, sorry. I was like, what do I do?

Starting point is 01:46:53 All right, okay, okay, I've got to think, I'm trying to think of something different. Oh, okay, she's the first lady of aquariums and good vibes. Yeah. I like that. I've just looked up negata and in Google it says what is negata famous for? It's located along the coast of the Sea of Japan in the Chubu region. It's famous for its high quality rice, beautiful coastal and mountainous sceneries, spectacular firework displays in summer, skiing in winter, and hot spring bathing around the year. Holy shit! It's got everything!

Starting point is 01:47:39 That sounds like good vibes. Yeah, you know that with good vibes. And probably aquariums too. Let's be honest, they're good. I don't have some that with good vibes. And probably aquariums too. Let's be honest, they've got a few. Have some use for aquariums. For sure. But fireworks despite, I love fireworks. Love them. So fun. Got exploding stuff. Love explosions. Love colors. It's really taking confetti cannons to the logical conclusion, isn't it? Yes. Now, somehow we could get confetti and fireworks together. Oh my God. Yeah, boy.

Starting point is 01:48:09 It'll be rich. Then we'll have some good vibes. So like a fire has it and I love it. Yeah. Melody Cook, I mean, you've got a lot of new play. We're gonna have to both good vibes and aquariums, but also it sounds like you live somewhere very nice. So good for you. Nice one and thanks to everyone that supports us

Starting point is 01:48:27 at patreon.com slash dogeon pod, you are the lights of our lives. Yes. And you can get all sorts of things there, including three bonus episodes per month, the whole back cataloger up there. We must be pushing towards 80 or 90 bonus episodes up there, I reckon. And yeah, another thing you get is if you are on the shout out level for three

Starting point is 01:48:53 years and a row, you get to join the triptage club. I'm sending the door. I got the door list there. I'll lift the velvet rope. Welcome you in. Jess will hand you a drink, maybe a bit of a, Welcome you in. Jessel will hand you a drink, maybe a bit of a What do you call the food things? Canapas little canapai I'll jump behind the bar shake up a few cocktails Dave booked a band who have we got this week? I've got the muscle brothers whatever they were called before Muscle brothers, shall what are they playing? They're playing the hits of Aretha Farad.

Starting point is 01:49:25 And Ray Charles, you know, for a bit of a ride. So they're doing a full set of Aretha, full set of Ray Charles. They can't have a break, come back, full set of Aretha, full set of Ray Charles. So there's sort of a two-city, you know what I'm saying? What? I think this is probably like, this maybe is the one that's made the most sense so far from the bands you've booked.

Starting point is 01:49:41 Well done. It's hard to learn. It's hard to learn. I booked these guys in advance. I don't know what the topic is going to be except when I'm doing it. Of course, so this was just very, very lucky. Oh God, that is good. Yeah, drink this week is apparel spritz. Oh, nice. We are moving into. Yeah, we're moving into warmer weather here. Time for spritz it up. Hey, Jess, can I request something custody in the food this week?

Starting point is 01:50:05 Okay, maybe a little dessert. Can you do dessert canopays? Yeah sure What about little I'm not gonna make you do this but of course my request would be little trifles. Oh Yeah, I'm in okay. Is that possible Jess does not look happy with it. What if what have you got there Jess? No, just custard Blobs of cuss. I never just custard. Blubbs of custard. I never get a blob. I don't know your hand. Help yourself to a blob. Well, everyone knows the best part of a trifle is the custard.

Starting point is 01:50:31 So this is fantastic. I hope we've served a little blob. I knew it. Yeah, get rid of all that bullshit. The way you put the blob, the best bit. Suck your cake and jelly. Fuck off. Have some custard.

Starting point is 01:50:43 Thank you. I've got right back in there too for it slightly. I'm having two fruits on, fuck off. Have some custard, thank you. I've got right back in the two fruits lately. I'm having two fruits on my Vita Brits on my oats in the morning, so good. I've had two fruits in easily 20 years. Yeah, they're a flashback for me too. And I've been on them all week, so good. Yum, I need to get me some two fruits.

Starting point is 01:51:01 Do you put the juice on as well? Or just the little bits? If a little juice gets out, I'm all full. Yeah, I'm not gonna get blind. That was my favorite bit just drinking that at the end. It's just this syrupy lick. Oh my god, so good. You get out. We've got a few inductees in the Triptage Club this week. Just let me check the guest list here. Who have we got firstly from? Have you ever had someone try and sneak in that isn't on the guest list?

Starting point is 01:51:28 Or are people usually pretty good when they rock up to the velvet rope? Yeah, I think no, I think people are normally pretty good. No one's job. We actually had one time I think someone got in and they mess it up saying, I'm not sure if I was meant to.

Starting point is 01:51:40 Oh, I love that honesty, but get the fuck out. That's not, yeah. But you've come forward, so get the fuck out. That's not. Yeah, but you've come forward. So get the fuck out. So we've got from, let me just check the, I had this all set up and I've lost my, I've lost myself. What is the date? What's going on? Who am I?

Starting point is 01:51:58 Oh, I see what I've done. Okay. You are Lisa Simpson. I've confused myself from New I go in my day, which is gotta be Minnesota. No, it's gotta be Missouri. Oh, Michigan. Michigan, it's Michigan, I reckon.

Starting point is 01:52:18 Dave, you look it up, I check. Oh, and Dave will hype you up on the way through. That's his other little. Oh, yeah. He's at heart man. That's difficult. I'm bloody Googling at the way through. That's his other little. Oh, yeah. He's our hype man. That's difficult. I'm bloody Googling at the same time. It is Michigan.

Starting point is 01:52:28 It's Michigan. All right. So from New Argo in Michigan, Scott Laning. Oh, Scott Laning. It's great to see you again. And because I was a Michigan you, all right. From Stevenage in England, Great Britain, it's Olivia Gatliff. Oh, Great Britain, Great Gatliff.

Starting point is 01:52:53 From South Yara in Victoria, Australia, it's Amy Gibbs, the doctor. Oh, you gives me good vibes when you come into our party. And finally from Woodley in Greater Manchester, Great Britain, it's Nicole Carr. Would you like to come into our club and make our lives even better? What do we think? What do we think? Pretty good? I don't know if I fully get that last one. She's from Woodley. Like, yep. What's to get?

Starting point is 01:53:29 Maybe I didn't hear what you said, but I thought you'd make our lives even better. I said, would you like to come into our party and make our lives even better? On the way in. On the way in. When you said, would you, that was a reference to Woodford? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Now it's obvious now that you're sort of thinking. Thank you.

Starting point is 01:53:42 Thank you so much. I mean, her surname was Car. You couldn't have done anything in car. He couldn't do anything with Scott Lanning. I did, I'm coming in for landing. I mean, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave. Thank you. We know, you said last week, this is stressful for you now,

Starting point is 01:53:58 and we said, hey, just have some fun with it. You can't go wrong. And then this week, we've shuddle over you, and that is unfair of us. We will have you can go wrong. Sorry. That can't go wrong. And then this week we shadowed all over you and that is unfair. We really are if you can go wrong. Sorry. That's unfair of us. Can you only be stressful now? I know. I did it your best. I did it for the first week just like uninvited, unsolicited, just for fun. And now it's become a thing that I, I can't sleep at night now. Yeah, yeah. But we're not going to stop it.

Starting point is 01:54:26 So you need to find a way to sleep, and we need to find a way to just laugh at your terrible jokes. Yes, would you like to come in and make our, to our great party? I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. No, there's not the wrong with that. The post. Would have been good if we stopped it. It gives me good vibes, but anyway.

Starting point is 01:54:43 That was a good one. That was a really good one. Thank you. The one from Ford, not that bad. Let's bring this back home. We have almost gone for an hour after the report this week which is amazing. A new record, yeah, we're good. We've bloody good. So if anyone wants to get involved, please jump on the social media, do go on part on all

Starting point is 01:55:07 of the social medias, get on Jess Perkins' Instagram in particular. She's pushing for 10,000. How far off are we? How far off? Let's do a live check. I'm assuming about a time people listen, it'll be, heaps more, but we're currently at 9,125. That's great. 91%. That's great progress. It'll be heaps more, but we're currently at 9,125.

Starting point is 01:55:25 That's great. 91%. That's a great progress. When I started this campaign, I had 8,748. So it's been, it turns out all you need to do is just be quite desperate and ask people outright to follow you. All those people who do follow Jess and not me, come on, throw another dog a bone, you're out to follow more than one. Of course you who do follow Jess and not me, come on throw another dog a bone.

Starting point is 01:55:45 You're going to follow more than one. Of course you can. Max Stuart comedy on Instagram. Max, you underscore out on Twitter and Max Stuart comedy on Facebook. I also provide some content on there. Maybe it's not up to Jess's level, but it's something. It's something. That's what it is.

Starting point is 01:56:03 Something. And Dave, where are you? You got the Pyrestegram. Check out my meeting pies on the... I reckon there's like a bit of a flow on effect from Uges. I've just hit 5000, so thank you so much. You're welcome. You're on the twits. And if you want to check out our other podcast, Dave does a great book podcast. It's about the classic novels. It's called Book- That's right. This week, this week's episode that just came out yesterday is the time machine, HG Wells sci-fi classic. Did you know that he coined the term time machine

Starting point is 01:56:35 for that book? Wow. I did not know that. That was a fun fact. Yeah. I was joined by Joel Zammett and Jackson Bailey from the Sandspan's crew. And a lot of fun. Two very good boys. And the other ones, but primates put out a few episodes. We're doing two at a week at the moment to finish off season one of the Umbrella Academy. So there will be 10 recap episodes of that, man, having going through it. It's been a real fun time rewatching those. I can't remember how it finishes, can't wait to watch the finale and then we're probably going to do season two now. And for listen now we're being going through classic 80s albums as voted by the listeners. And the most recent one was about Diastrates, but they've really jumped around all sorts of different genres.

Starting point is 01:57:22 It's been very interesting. And the one coming up is one of Dave's all-time favorites. He's going to record a little review that we're going to put in there too. So check that out. That'll be coming out at the this weekend. Awesome. But that's probably all we need to tell you. I guess be good to each other.

Starting point is 01:57:41 Hope you're having a nice time in these tough times. And yeah, getting contact about anything you like if you want to. Yeah, all the links to everything, you know, social media wise, email wise and our other podcasts, all this stuff is that do go on pod.com but until next week we'll say thank you so much for joining us and listening and until next week I'll say goodbye. Bye! Bye! She's gonna go for five minutes. It's time. The land of the free! Free!

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