Two In The Think Tank - 26 - Y2K Bug

Episode Date: April 20, 2016

"The Y2K Bug is coming to get us! We're all going to die!!!" The people would say in 1999, it wasn't quite the massive disaster that some predicted, but what was it?Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. you. Hello and welcome to DoGoOn. My name is Dave Warnerke. I am sitting here with Mr. Matt Stewart. Hey Dave. What a pleasure to be here. Great. That's my number one point. Matzju. Hey Dave. What a pleasure to be here. Great. That's my number one point. Perfect number two. My number two point is, you're looking really good today.

Thank you. Right back at you across the table. That is very sweet of you to say. Alright, I'm going to introduce another person out. Hopefully they'll give me another compliment. So it is just Perkins, hello Jess. Hi Dave. Hello and do you have anything to say to me? No. Hey Jess. No, I love you jumper and I love you big blue eyes Hello, and you have anything to say to me? No

Hey Jess. No, I love you jump her and I love you big blue eyes And I just love you to pees as you're just the best. Oh, baby so cute. I love you. I'm gonna squish your little cheeks Oh, oh, she is squishing my cheeks. Oh These bum cheeks. Oh Cup those tiny cheeks That's so creepy anybody have any compliments me? It's weird if you ask for them. Don't give them to me now. It's fine. Hi Matt. I cut my tiny cheeks. Oh, that was a weird moment.

I loved it. I loved it. What have you guys been doing today? Cuffing cheeks, mainly. Oh, mainly cup and cheeks. I had cocoa pops for breakfast for the first time in a long time. That's great. I already regret asking the question. I had a banana, because I, a bloody bad.

It's pretty fancy. And then a donut. It's been a good day. Oh, that is a good day. And how about you, but how much was your dinner at home? I, oh. Yeah.

Sorry, I didn't even, I just, you gave me two things, and my Tetris brain wanted to like, slot them together. No, that's not any good. Is it a Tetris brain or a sexual brain? Sex-trust brain. Sex-trust, you are an absextress, and Matthew, what do you have a breakfast?

Come on, it's a leading question. I had, look, this is what I do. I've got a bunch of different cereals. So I go a little layer of rolled oats. Then I go a layer of brand sticks. What do you call those brand stick guys? All brand. All brand sort of sticks here.

And then a layer of rice puffs. And then a layer of corn flakes. Wow! Wow! And then, you're also the one who does like milk through it. Two types of milk though? Was that you? Yeah, two types of milk.

I haven't heard that. What do you mean? I mix rice milk and soy milk together. Rice is a bit sweet, soy is a bit tart thicker. Rice is a bit thin, like mix them together, and it's a delicious. Rice so is a bit tart, thicker, rice is a bit thin, like mix them together, and it's a delicious concoction. And your cereal with the layers, does it stain layers? Yeah, it's kind of like a parfait or a trifle.

Breakfast trifle. Like a breakfast lasagna. Yeah, breakfast lasagna, that's a lot. Oh wow, that's actually amazing. It's really good. It's very complicated. And is it equal parts of every cereal? Equal parts.

Where do you have time? I don't have time for breakfast, since I need a banana as I run for the train. Well you had time to get to the donut shop, Jess. Yeah. Between trains. Connecting trains. Had donut time. I needed coffee.

You should be grateful I had coffee. I'm very grateful. I am also grateful. I could use a coffee. Oh well, instead. Well that's right. If you get through your report, your reward is a coffee. Okay now So that what we're gonna do is Matt's gonna give us a report on a topic that Jess and I have no idea what it's gonna be

Hmm. I am interested in that. I believe last week you said that you're gonna pull this one from the list-ness suggestion The list-ness suggest the list-ness suggestions. I yeah from the hats as we keep calling it. I have pulled it from the hat. And do you do it at random? Yeah, it's random from the hat. I mean, there's no hat system. Well, I thought you might pick and choose from the hat.

Yeah, you might see the list and go, yeah, I want to do that one. Well, I think that would be disingenuous to the hat. I think the hat deserves better than that. I think everyone goes in equal, they all come out equal. Okay? It's an egalitarian hat. I think the hat deserves better than that. I think everyone goes in equal. They all come out equal. Okay. It's an egalitarian hat. And I'm wearing it right now. I wear it around. Otherwise, it's got ideas. Quite a sharp hat. Under the hat. Well, very good. It's a little bit of paper, just fall out. Yeah. Then I have to put them back in. That's okay. So you're about to make the dreams of one listener come true, possibly the expense of every other listener, but that's okay. We always start with the question. What is your

question? My question is, what virus was feared to be the most deadly in the 1900s? Oh, virus. 1900s, not 1980s, so not... The 20th century. that aids or HIV? No, not AIDS or that That would have been up there and I mean, you know my question isn't based on anything any factor. That's fun. Um, Jess any virus, but that was a very good guest Dave What about malaria? I'll have another guy malaria No, it's not malariaaria. Yellow fever. Black fever. Man flu? Man flu, that's my most hated, but no, it's not that one.

Dengue fever. That's my mind. If I was going to get any of the above, that'd be the bottom of the list, Man flu. Oh. Um, cancer. Is that a virus? It doesn't sound like a fun topic either I'm gonna know history of cancer

Today I'm gonna talk cancer Hope you got some zingers Alright, I know You get some cancer 19 Everybody gets cancer Look, I want to laugh but also I don't want to Approve that company you can laugh at my open impression. That's what I'm laughing at. No, not everybody getting cancer. It's not funny

Virus Matt give us a clue. Oh, it's not okay. What you I was gonna say is it why two cats? It is why two See I was gonna say you're gonna have to think outside of the box. I was thinking of Y2K, but then I thought, but 1900s that makes me think early 1900s for some reason. Perkins. Well, I... I... So would you say that...

Technically I am, but I was born in 1990. Am I a child of the 1900s? Yes. Oh, hey! So you were born, you were a child in the 1900s? Yes. Oh, hey! So you were born, you were a child in the 1900s? I was, but fair enough. You were 10. You can't argue mate.

I would say the 1900s, you were to associate with pre-World War I, that's what I imagine. But that's fine, I'm excited for this topic. Good ride. My2K. So this was tweeted into us, this one, by a man named Marcus. Hello Marcus. Hi Marcus. Thanks so much for the suggestion, a very good suggestion.

Yeah, it is. Well let's wait and see how Matt's report goes. Yeah, look, I'm saying the suggestion was good. The report, I'm sorry Marcus, I probably haven't, as is my want, it is probably a little underdone, but it's a very interesting topic, probably. Okay, well, I mean, prove it. Okay, so it's like most commonly known, I think to me, as the Wachie K bug, but it had a bunch of other names, so it was also known as...

I mean, but Millennium Bug is another one, that's another one. Millennium Bug, it's another big one. It's also called the Year 2000 Bug, which is where W2K comes on once for year two is for two and K is for thousand and also this one which came up a lot in my reading what I don't remember about the hearing it was called a lot less catchy the year 2000 problem. No it's good bug is good yeah like bug yeah but I also just imagined like a little beetle it's a little beetle running around and I'm like no no it's a little beetle that's not a problem he's all right my lady bug my older sister was in year 12 in 19 and I think more 2000 and she so her

you know mark-up day they'd often have dress up themes at some schools. We certainly didn't do that, but they, because at our school right, they were a bit worried about what we were going to do, not because of me, I was quite a well-behaved young fella, but our year level was pretty loose, so they called us in on a Wednesday and said, for an assembly and said By the way, that's that's the end of your schooling. Go home now like they didn't they didn't give us any heads up As to when our last day was gonna be so we took a mark up day anytime you could be graduating. Yeah But they made it sound like they're like we'll let you know So you obviously will let you know a week in advance or whatever

But they just never did and then they're like, yeah, this is it you're done. Everyone leave please Wow, but my sisters class out That's such an anticlimax to school. Yeah, it was weird, but they did the favor. They did do it because we our school St. Beads was across the road from This pub called the Mentone Hotel or the edgy. Do you have a pub across the road from your high school? Yeah, and Wednesdays was the big student sort of night there, and they let us finish on a Wednesday. So I reckon that couldn't have been, so I'll look and ask you to.

I'll go off to the pub. Straight to the pub, and I turned 18 that week. Nice. It was. Anyway, look, this is my school. Let us have a Muckup day, but they were very clever because it was an all-girl school. They scheduled the Muckup day for the same days out graduation ceremony. So we all like, well, we still had fun, but nobody wanted to ruin their spray tunnel there here, and then we all left to go get ready. So, we were very well, but I thought it was genius.

That was smart play. Like, you're going to have you fun, but you're not going to have a water fight. Like, we're very well, but I thought it was genius. That was smart, that was smart play. Like you're gonna have you fun, but you're not gonna have a water fight. Like there's not gonna be water balloons because nobody wants to streak their fake tent. Was fake tent big? Yeah. Yeah, not real big.

Not for me. You don't need it, you've got a lovely natural glow. Very pasty. Natural glow, anyway. Remember that product? That was an English woman who used to spruke it on daytime TV. I'm here to sell natural glow. No, I can't say that.

She say the word, I'm here to sell. No, I should. So that's terrible opening for an advertisement. Hi. Turn off. Wanna buy something? Because I'm here to sell it. I've got a shitty product.

You want it? No. Natural glow. You know, she was great. What you do is you put it on. There you go. Great. Buy it. Alright. Yeah, my sister's her so her theme was Millennium bug or White Tube K-Bug. So they all dressed as like bees and different Blady bugs. So they were obviously treating it as a comedy thing. Yeah, they weren't worried. They, well, I don't remember having any fear of it.

Like I was a teenager in non-enoying. You guys were quite young. Do you have any memories of them? No, I'm not really. I remember people being worried about it, but I don't remember even thinking about it. I was kind of like, no, that can't possibly be right. Yeah.

Yeah, it's... Cuties on that dumb. I had more faith in computers than in people. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think I... All of our members at Silverchair Song ended up in the year 2000. That's all I wanted. Making it up to you and me.

Yeah, I didn't like that song very much. Well, I like Silverchair. Oh, look, we're not gonna turn this into a Silverchair bashing session again. No, not just please. For me once, came on you, full as twice. This is not that third time. Yeah.

So, but why is it okay? I don't know, I know the, maybe the basics of it all. Yeah, I don't know a lot about it. I didn't really know anything about it. I've reconn out of Vega idea, but it was, But maybe the basics of it all. Yeah, I don't know a lot about it. I didn't really know anything about it. I've reconn out of Vega idea, but it was... Anyway, did you know Dave, I thought you'd like this. Oh.

Do you know what a numiron name is? Y2K is a numiron... numironum. Is it sort of like a... Er... Nevermind. So is it like numero, num? Yeah, numero num.

Is it, because it has like Y2K, num? Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a word that, it's like an acronym with a number in it. Yeah, exactly. That's what the world's called. An initialism is what I was talking about. In the Wikipedia, example, page about numerisms, numeronim, numeronim, they mention the word initialism,

which is the first time I would have ever noticed. That is a real word, which you introduced us to on this very. Can you think of any other numeronim? They listed some, I can't, off, K9 was one. Oh yeah, K9. K9, yeah.

They did have a whole list of. Oh, AK47. Yeah, there's one AK. Cool, there we go. I'm happy I got one. That's all I need. Well done. Jess. I didn't get one.

Never get one. No, I just wanted you to realize that. So, um... About DB9. That's not the count, does it? Yeah. DB9. I don't know what that means, but I think it's...

Wow, like cast and Martin DB9. I think so. You mentioned that before. Perfect. I don't know what that means, but I think it's okay. Wow, like cast and Martin did it then. I think so. You mentioned that before. Perfect, nailed it. I got one. Dreamboat nine. Dreamboat. Yeah, I reckon that counts.

Great, we've all got one. We can move it. I love that, Nima and them. So the WattuK bug was a problem in the coding of computerized systems that was expected by some leading up to the year 2000 to create havoc in computer networks around the world when the clock sticked over from 1999 to 2000. This was due to the fact that many computers built from the 60s up to the 80s were designed to abbreviate

four digit years to two digits in order to save memory space. Oh right right right right, right. So I was going to go from 99 to 00. Exactly. So they'd say, instead of saying 1965, when they were designing a program, it would just say 65. Because the reason was that data storage was so expensive back then, like, even little bits of storage storage like that would cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars

But it does seem you know people how a computer people from the 60's there They were always thinking about the future and always predicting in the year 2000 We'll live on the moon and everyone will have a computer the size of a house They always have that but do not even think about how in less than 30 in less than 40 years there would be a problem. I talk about that a little bit they they did some did foresee it. So yeah anyway I'll talk about it in a sec but you know it seems pretty crazy now. I don't recommend that like 19 like digitally. No the numbers one nine is like we got a we got a safe space wherever we can

Yeah, that's like cost down. What is that the smallest thing ever? Yeah, like I've I've just tied in a Google doc right now I'm just I've just written a whole page 19 over and over again. What's that costing me a million dollars? Cost me nothing 1965 free, but here in 2016 nothing at all absolutely I've just Select all copy paste just doubled it still free. Fuck. He can't be stopped. I won't be stopped. Here's a quote, dude, guys know Alan Greenspan. It's kind of a big name in American

finance. He was the chairman of the Federal Reserve of the US from 1987 to 2000 and see oh, yeah, um, I was at high school Economics and social medicine knows name, but he I was doing drama at high school so yeah, right, okay, I know Brecht Now that's perched my interest to pretzel Bre. No, please go on about Greenspan. What's his obviously a big wig? Yeah, so he, but he was around that time, but he, earlier, he was a computer programmer. So in 1998, when the Y2K bug was starting to get a lot of mainstream coverage, he said this. He said,

I'm one of the culprits who created this problem. I used to write those programs back in the 60s and 70s, and I was proud of the fact that I was able to squeeze a few elements of space out of my program by not having to put a 19 before the year. Back then it was very important. We used to spend a lot of time running through various mathematical exercises before we started to write our programs so that they could be very clearly delimited with respect to space and the use of capacity. And never entered our minds that those programs would have lasted for more than a few years. As a consequence, they are very poorly documented. If I were to go back and look at some of the programs 30 years ago, I would have one terribly difficult time working my way

through step by step. So you just wrote a whole lot of stuff. I was like, oh, I'm a couple of years now. I'm going to use this. Yeah, it's like, this isn't it. It's a computer. As if people are going to still be using this computer program in 40 something years. Right. I mean, that's, that was why they sort of saw that it could have been an issue, but didn't think that it would possibly in reality become an issue. So a lot of these older programs were still being used then, is that right?

Yeah, that's right. Old hardware and software programs. But it's not like, so I think I often was thinking about it like as computers, you know, like laptops and PCs and that sort of stuff. Yeah, that's what I always imagined. But as computers in everything you know, ATMs, cash register, just like everything and not they're not getting changed. Everything is a computer. Yeah pretty much.

Everything. So people were worried that everything was just going to work. Mel function. Yeah. That's right they They thought hey why are they yeah, so as we got closer to the year 2000 computer program Has realized that some of these older computers would still be in use and that that meant that they would represent the year 2000 Because they're only 99 is two digits and when it goes to 2000 they Realize it would either think that it'd gone back to 1900 or some computer programs

Just kept counting up so went up from 99 to 100 so they thought it was 19 100 Like a crazy year into the future Okay, but would that Matt? How would that affect it would it just not want to work? I would just be confused and and maybe the fear would be that they'd either shut down or they'd give wrong results and it would just like have a chain reaction that would mark up the whole system. So if it was like a cash register it just wouldn't work anymore so people can't get cash.

So there was a lot of panic around that people after new years would just wouldn't be able to get money anymore, you know. The machines would stop working and there was like all this crazy panic and you know, millions of people all of a sudden want to... Isn't that hilarious how those little... We just, everyone just accepts that little piece of paper and our polymer plastic in our country

just represents money. Yeah. And we just have to agree that I give you this and that equals 100 units of dollars. Yeah, it certainly doesn't, but I mean it does. It's really, we just have to agree that I give you this and that equals 100 units of dollars. Yeah. It certainly doesn't, but I mean it does. It's really, it's very odd. It is weird. But it's about a two-month system works, right? Yeah, it does, but then it's not putting ideas in people's minds, Dave. People were worrying that the system was not going to work. And they couldn't get the cash. Yeah, yeah. And when did someone first identify this as a problem

and it started getting mainstream? Well, it was the first summer it was written about was I think or talked about was in the 60s. First summer was written about was in the 80s, but it was really slow for people to the fear to really get going. And that was late 9. It was only the last couple of years where people were really starting to go, we gotta start fixing some of these programs. Start rewriting a bloody project. Yeah, of course. So some of the places that were affected the most,

the Y2K problem was obviously not, as I was saying, not limited to computers running conventional software. Many devices containing computer chips ranging from things like elevators, ATMs, Oh, trapped in an elevator. Temperature control systems, commercial, medical equipment, so you know, like everything. Everything is a computer. Yeah. But as well as that, and the things that we're really making people afraid will like you know, you know nuclear warheads

Like there's buttons around that you know in the Presidents office button just a button gets pushed and she gets blown up right What happens if that was a program that controls that just malfunctions and just shoots What if the president just slips Yeah, that's another thing. That's not why she's correlated Slip it on news a president like many people Yeah, what if he or she's a millennium aive here. That was a big one. Hmm. He was in power bill Big and oh and he was a bit of a party animal. Yeah, he saxophone out

When Baker Street was Kale swissper. Oh, sorry Kale swissper. Thank you, Dave. I was still thinking about last week's episode about 221 B Baker Street B Baker Took my love, took my big street bone. Did that some connected to that? I reckon that maybe it's just a catchy thing that Jerry Rafferty, the singer put in. Did you know Jerry Rafferty used to be in a comedy duo with Billy Connolly? What? No, but I do know that he's the singer of Steelers Wheel, who sings Stung in the Moon with you. Not a comedy duo, sorry.

I think they're a folk duo, but Billy more and more his little bits of chat in between songs got longer and funnier. And much better than his folk. Yeah, what do you think he played banjo? Yeah, he does play banjo. banjo, yeah. So that blew my mind when I heard that. That's fantastic. That's great. A little So that blew my mind. Fantastic.

That's great. A little factoid for you there. Oh, just a little thing. You saw a little toy. A little factoid here. I'll just drop that on the table. Run along. And I'm done.

Boom, and I'm gone. And I'm gone. Who was that going again? Who was the boomer mom gone, girl? Boom, and I'm gone. Remember? I was. Yeah. I'm gone Who was that guy again?

The boomer mom go and go boom and I'm gone That was so funny. I laughed so hard. I think it was in them Hi, and I'm go all was Santa Claus. Yeah And I'm go the father Christmas. This is I'm gone. Then the father Christmas, isn't it? The original father Christmas catchphrase. You want a Tonka truck? Boom, and I'm gone. Jerry Raffady?

Oh, banks were one of the focal points of the fear. Apart from ATMs closing that sort of stuff, they also rely on computers to calculate interest daily. So, and it would normally, instead of ticking over one more day, it would change interest by one day. But in this case, I was worried that it might change it by minus 100 years. So if you were to suddenly lost trillions of dollars.

Also, or like the bank is owed all this interest from people who's borrowed and all of sudden that's just whopped and maybe it's, I don't know what's negative interest. Money. Money. I mean, none of it. That turned out not to be a problem. But anyway, that was one of the fees power plants is another one. So they depend on routine computer maintenance for safety checks,

such as water pressure and radiation levels. So not having the correct date would mark these calculations up and possibly- Have a meltdown at the meltdown. So the surrounding areas, yeah, nuclear power or any of the crazy power know, crazy power plants, nuclear wind. Hydro. Hydro.

Yes. Cold could just start of being flinging everywhere. Everywhere. We'd be sitting in a safe cold. Yeah, that could happen. Happy New Year, Jess. Yeah, I think it's. Like a new.

Cold House. Can you imagine, can you imagine if the wind farms got out of control? Would be having bad hair days for weeks. We wind everywhere. Yeah, lots of wind. Oh no, the wind computer's broke. Why are you making fun of wind power because if in a catastrophe it wouldn't be that bad?

No, I'm making that yeah, yeah, wind me that bad because what's that we live with the wind anyway? Oh no, now the wind mill is just going around and around and not doing anything. I meant more that like wind is another name for farts. Oh, I didn't get that. I was on that level as well. I was working on two comedic levels. And you know how much I love an opportunity, you make fart noises. Is that what that noise is you make? I just thought that was just like a negative noise. Well, it's a bit

of a... Negative fart. Negative fart. I just like never associate farts with negative. Negative interest is akin to negative arts negative 100 years of Far lost I've lost a million dollars of farts Fart oh Feel that's the Dell Jones is going down the shitter. Oh No lost the nadsat oh god Cup that Ellen Green Spaniard prick hey, so our transportation Transportation another one. So you're probably this is this is one of the big ones please list some transportation

Okay transportation You got aeroplanes. That was the big one people fear that aeroplanes that midnight would just fall from the sky sure That was like a genuine So do they actually do they risk it and have planes flying? Ah, yes. Because I always get a little bit edgy about air travel. And as most people do. And I think that I don't know that.

I don't know. Like, I've just booked a trip to Europe and I didn't want to fly back on September the 11th. I don't, just freaked me out. It was the 15th anniversary of that horrible event. You just didn't want to do it. I think I am actually, I did take the ticket because much cheap. I was like, well, I'm not going to let that stupid fear take

the cheap $400. Yeah, oh man. Yeah, no. But it's not a fiftieth anniversary. It's not a fiftieth anniversary. It's not a fiftieth anniversary. It's not a fiftieth anniversary. It's not a fiftieth anniversary.

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If you listen to the tape I just said before it was known listen to the old episode before Hitler was that bad No, Hitler wasn't that bad never said that. I did he was real bad But he wasn't that bad that you know Dave makes me edit out always Neo not yeah, oh god, no I do not Everything that we say goes straight to your ears listeners everything including fart bank Cop that Hitler Has it be funny out of context just far know, it has caught that Hitler. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I asked the question, were people brave enough to tempt it? So to show how confident they were that planes wouldn't fall from the sky the FAA Which is the federal aviation administration in America?

Senate's chief Jane Garvey on a flight that would be in the air over the midnight hour That is the worst assignment because it's a great power play Oh, that is the worst assignment because The great power play. This is like people going, yeah, you would say it's okay because But then I do the chief. But then I go, yeah, look, we'll send anyone. The chief is spending their new years on a plane. That sucks, isn't it?

I've actually got some good overtime, hopefully first class. Yeah. She was the chief. Do you reckon she had a little bit of doubt? I would, you'd have a bit, wouldn't you? Yeah, a little bit. You know, everyone has a tiny. The worst part would be, you've just the plane happened to malfunction.

Yeah, it crashed. Completely, I know a bird gets in the engine or whatever. Unrelated, yeah. Completely unrelated and then everyone's like, well, there you go. Nightbirds. Like an owl. Well, a night owl. A bird's bat.

An owl just flying 40,000 feet in the air, you know, but I am just to hear how Jane went. Did she survive? She did survive. Oh, thank goodness. That fly. Jesus, disappointed. It isn't, yeah.

So I built that up as a, like that would have been a real fun quirk. It's like you got Kirk, you got Kirk, you got Koky Jane. Yeah, that's right. You should've rolled the dice. She may be dead. This is a while ago. The flight time. I'm a fan of Jane. I think she's great.

She puts in money where the mouth is. Yes. And I imagine she gets paid a lot of, she's the chief of the FAA. Exactly. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of mouth. That flight also included a passenger whose life goal was to be flying in the air.

That's a lot of mouth. That flight also included a passenger whose life goal was to be flying as the clock ticked over into the new millennium. What do you mean? Imagine, like, if someone said that, I think, like, Jane would start worrying that they were gonna just kill everyone. Yeah Clearly, there's something wrong. Well, I've got Imagine that you'd be freaking out. Look into the clock Five four sorry, we've changed time zones one hour and five Four it just keep happening. Yeah, it'd be really hard to judge. Yeah, no, which compute it like

Did it all depend on which computer you're worried about. It's just a small domestic flight. Yeah, it was a domestic flight. I think it was gonna Dallas or something like that. It's like Melbourne to Sydney, you know. Um, that's my life goal. Hi icons, it's Danny Pellegrino from the Pop Culture Podcast, everything iconic, and I love Nordstrom. No place better to shop, particularly during the holiday season, because they have everything. They have holiday decor at Nordstrom. They have cozy cardigans from Barefoot Dreams, my fav.

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classes online or on campus, and financial aid is available to qualified students, including the GI Bill. Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. But due to the widespread fears of planes falling from the sky, this lady whose life goal it was, it was a 63 year old named Janet Rhodes, it took her three attempts to book a flight at this time as two earlier bookings were cancelled due to lack of passengers. She had to book three times. Yeah, she really really wanted it. She was like, I'll pay for all the seats. Yeah, I'll do it. She mortgageed her house. She ended up, I think it was only, she was one of 36 on that flight, so it was sort of still a pretty empty flight. People just weren't keen. But until just now, I'm like, yeah, people were afraid.

But now, well, maybe that is a doing stuff. It's also, yeah, it's New Year's Eve. Yeah. You'd hope you'd have plans. If you don't, get some friends you'll lose them. Yeah, come on. So name Jan. Janit.

Janit and Jane. And then Combo. I kind of like the idea of, like, if something did happen when the clock went back and thought it was 1900, it was just like the technology just reverted. Somehow it became like a, you know, a right brother's plan. Yeah, they had to all peddle. Just like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it goes.

Soap and top. And they're also in like old-timey clients. Yeah. That, now that's a fun part. That's just magic. I'm into that. That sounds like a Doctor Who episode. You sound like a Doctor Who episode.

Oh, hey Jess. I agree that he needed to be dressed down verbally there in some way, but I think you took it a little too far in this instance. Sorry Dave. Okay Dave, do you accept? Well, I'll accept it if you give me another fart, Frank. And we're back! Oh, that's a really sweet moment.

What a gesture. Lovely gesture. Just a gesture. Just a gesture. This show is becoming worse and worse at bad puns. Or I am at least. Or better and better at bad puns. Oh, bad puns or I am a better and better at bad puns.

Did you guys know that there was a telemovie called Y2K made to be aired in 1999 by the NBC in America. That feels like fear mungering. It's old. Well, do you think so? Because it's alternative tight. You say fear mungering, but it's alternative tight, say fear monger But it's alternative type I think will leave you it's believe you're sure they called it countdown to chaos

That's a thing they're doing it. I'm relax right before it's about to happen like if it came out in 2004 or something It'd be like yeah, that's yeah, that's awful Yeah, then you can sort of be like oh, I won't leave it silly to be so worried but happening like this is gonna happen No one cares about it after I guess as silly to be so worried. But happening like, this is going to happen. But I made it. No one cares about it afterwards, I guess. As soon as it, nothing happens, it's like, no, no. And now they look like bigger dickheads, because nothing happened.

In the movie, did it. Well, if they called it countdown to countdown, something that's well-dave. It's like that movie, what was it called, 2010? And it was about 2012. 2012, and then it's like well that's relevant Like a mine Four minutes yeah, that's was the 2012 my encounter and then through a least just at the end of 2011 and now it's like well

That's hilarious. Yeah, that'll never be seen again Yeah, dated itself very quickly. What was the plot of? Countdown to chaos I'll let well let me tell, I've written down a review from IMDB from a user called PuffyLock. Oh, one of my favorite uses. Yep, they gave it one star out of 10. Oh, that's awesome.

Oh, it's an out of one. Oh, no, one out of 10. And wrote this review. I mean, this is like, I think that we're they were personally affected by the movie, and that's maybe why. that was so brutal about it I was working for bank X when this movie came out the corporate officers actually released a statement and we all had to attend a meeting letting us know what the movie was about how it portrayed banks and how we had to assure customers that things that happened in the movie

wouldn't happen in real life. I thought the meeting was a waste of time. Who was really going to come in and freak out about it? Well, apparently half of our customers, we had people ordering money to bury in their backyards. Almost every customer wore it. Hang on, is that like you bring up and you like you fill out a form and there's a box where you take... What are you going to do with this money buried buried in my backyard? Yeah, that's very specific

I'm guessing she would people were telling that I'm gonna need this to bear Yeah, can I have a $8,000 from my account? I haven't got 8,000 dollars. Yes. I know I'm gonna bury to my backyard. How would you how would you how would you like that? Just in a box to the box of waterproof small No, I'm in in like 20s or yeah, okay, I gotcha Do you sell shovels This bank. Yeah, that's right if you withdraw $5,000. Well, you get a free shovel this week. Oh That's a good deal

Almost every customer warned me to go straight home on New Year's Eve a lot of people wanted to know if the ATMs We're gonna be working and when we would start rationing out the money. Rationing out the money like scraps. Then she went on to say, oh he, I don't know, it's a name, puffy luck. He was like a dog. He went on to say it was disgusting that people were this gullible and stupid. He was disgusted by the people.

He was disgusted. It says nothing to do with the film. This movie was a waste of time for anyone with half a brain and the cause of a paranoid breakdown for people dumb enough to believe it. Thanks, MBC, for making the last two weeks of 1999. I'm living hell for me and the other bank employees. Posted 2009. Yeah, what a fucking news.

The years later that they posted this? I know, I think it was that, it was in two days. What a fucking news. That is fantastic. And I want to see this movie so badly now. Was it, it's a telling movie, so is it low budget? No, no famous people. I didn't recognize any now.

Freaked out all the banks. But there was another movie I saw, which was also, I think it was either Cold White you can, and I might have been meant to have been a, have a cinematic release, and it was like, it was like an army action movie. Like the new- My favorite.

The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- The new- My favorite. The new- The new- My favorite. The new- The new- The new- My favorite. The new- My favorite. The new- The new- The new- The new- The It was like an army action movie like the new favorite we're gonna go off and all that sort of stuff so And it had the only guy I recognized in it was Malcolm McDowell. Oh yeah from a Clockwick Orange. Yes. Place Alex. He's quite old now. Very old. Yeah, I mean this was 20 years ago whatever. Time magazine interview, so there's another thing. I'm not still talking about that other thing I'm sorry, sorry, we know done from the movies if you're interested. I'm gonna organize a public screening of that film

Great, that would be really good. Listen, come along. I'm still here. Yeah, we really follow back. Yep, that'd be really good I'm in time magazine. There was this great article in Time Magazine from pretty much bang on, started 2000. There was some great stuff. So, a lot of that I've used. Time Magazine interviewed a couple named Bruce and Diane Eckhart from Lisbon, Ohio, and who at the time were preparing for the Y2K disaster.

And they were actually with them on New Year year's day as they were sort of realizing that what was their reaction they were like they're sort of saying oh it seems like everything's going okay but we haven't heard anything out of Guam which is a little bit disturbing oh really searching for something yeah I haven't heard anything from Indonesia. I mean, I haven't. I've never spoken to anyone from Indonesia before. There's no reason for that.

I haven't checked, but still. It's funny saying some of the, you know, because I think of 2000, it doesn't feel like forever ago, but you see websites from 2000, and they are like the most basic geo-city's looking things. Yeah, like you could make something on your phone in five minutes, it looks better than that now. Yeah, so I went through, I actually looked up some old websites and stuff about with tips of what to do and they were like your cool old school looking websites.

That's awesome. But these guys, Bruce and Diane, they really went all out. They stockpiled six months' worth of food. They converted all their savings into gold coins. No, you idiot. They practiced. So in dystopia, are we supposed to respect gold? Yeah, I guess so.

People were thinking it was just going to go back to the dark age or not. What's the dark age? It's like well beyond, like early man sort of thing. But when you, with it. No, right, later than early man ones of the dark ages like well beyond like early man sort of thing But when you know right later than early man before the dark ages Dave. What's the time? I'm sort of talking about we're gold valuable and well golds are always being quite valuable Yeah, okay, so talking about that time always Pirates the pirate the pirate is the pirates are

They practice firearm skills? They conducted surprise drills in the months leading up No, and a daughter The pole girl wake up wake up get the gold coins get in the bin get in the bin. They've got a bin That's a deep thing daddy They had a... Get in the bin! I meant bunker! Shit! Get in the bin! Christine! Get in the bin!

Get in the fucking bin! 38 seconds with it. We're all dead. Well done, Christine. Well fucking done. Damn! You went the bed again. They had a quote from the...

Fuck, it's a teenager. They've scared the shit out of him. Well, let's get the piss out of him. No, she might have been a twit. She would have been a bit younger than a teenager. So, I think, you know scared the piss out of him. She might have been a toy. She would want to be younger than a teenager. So I think, you know, she could have shot herself. She could have shot herself. Well, we're all susceptible at any time.

I'm not beyond it. But the only thing that he's quoted from her was when it was becoming clear that nothing was happening. She was just like, she was standing like she was getting sick of it. She's like, well, you know, what if it happens, it happens, whatever. To my mom and dad and her dad, apparently still going worried about the people from the

town across coming and stealing their supplies. It's like strangers, you know, they've been looking at our supplies and stuff, like super paranoid. Yeah, because you look like a lunatic. And the, the, the, the, the journalist said that the daughter had just been all morning singing along to Cheryl Crow on her walkman. I got even thinking of what's a Cheryl Crow song. I got a feeling. Oh my god, you picked that up so fast. Is that Cheryl Crow? Yeah. Is it? That's Cheryl.

Big time. You bet you go coins on that? Sweet bippy. Oh my god. Sweet bippy. So, I mean, they also studied basic dentistry and field medicine. Oh my god. To this point, it's like, well, it's not that bad.

You can convert the coins back. You can eat the food over the next year or so. That's fine. But you've what basic dentistry and medicine the the people are fucked Diane did say that she she was committed to eating the heaps of cans of spam whether or not there was a disaster the thing is I actually really like spam and she was already looking she was already looking to the bright side because she's like on the bright side I got six months of spam and she's got all that food but she's good

God damn love the Monty brothers get that's like my house She was good. She's already Spam and gold Oh, what are you guys I sorry she's committed. I know she yes, so she was she's I was really Spanned in you know um she Okay, I've known it. What was it over spam? How she was looking on the bright side Oh, yeah, that's right. She's already saying well. I've now got all this money saved and all this spam

And I've got all this food so I don't this spam! And I've got all this food. So I don't need to spend all this food coming up for the next six months. So she was planning on buying a jacuzzi. Oh, that's fantastic! So that's looking at the bright side. Everyone's a winner baby. That's the truth. But...

Basic dentistry. I mean, you know, you could feel the jacuzzi with? Spare! And gold. Spam and gold. What a combo. Gold spam. I feel like in the future, food would be way more worthy, like, worth, like, valuable than gold. Yeah. Because you can eat it. Yeah. So the solution to the, to the year 2000 problem the money that we're going to get. My question is, at this point, we are laughed now,

but did it not affect anything because people did something to fix it or did it just was never a problem ever. That is still debated. So you know what I mean? Like everyone laughed for maybe in the 80s and 90s people were like, oh well, to sub-trade those computers won't be will be sweet or was it like no, those old computers are cool. They're fine They're double-o, double-nine they don't give a shit. They're a computer in my head. It was like

At midnight it was gonna be like your vacuum cleaner would turn on and like murder you Yeah, I get ready to just thought yes I tell you Just be like robots out to kill you. I get where I just thought, yes I tell you, all computers are going to just be like robots out to kill you. Yeah, everything in your hands. There might be confused about the date, but does that make them homicidal? Yes. Well, that was the concern. Debatable. Debatable. We'll never know. So the Y2K bug was both a software and hardware problem, obviously. So software and hardware companies raced to fix the bug in the $98.99 and provided

Y2K compliant programs to help. It was found that the simpler solution was seen to also be the best, which was simply expanding the date the year to from two digits to four digits. That was like a problem solved. But it's very simple. Very simple, but very hard to do. So some of these computers, right, like in an ATM or something, that's attached to the mainframe of the whole machine. So it's hard to just get in there and you can't change that part. So I look, does it seem clear to you that I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about?

No, understand, like, I think what you're trying to say is the clock is actually physically inside it. So you have to, it's not just a code that you go. You actually have to change the clock. Yeah, so it's tricky. Yeah, it's tricky to run. And like it's tricky because you have to what change what billions of clocks are Yeah, that's right. So it's just a slow tedious process and and it was just time consuming In the years leading up to the turn to the turn of the millennium

I keep saying that but it's not quite a hundred percent true But anyway, I'll keep saying until I correct myself later. In the years leading up to the turn of the millennium, tech teams worked to fix the issues. In America, there were worries that the public sector was lagging behind. As they tend to do, but the public sector is a moron. And a Y2K preparedness survey was commissioned in late 1998 by a New York computer industry consulting firm. And that showed that among the 13 economic sectors started in the US government was the least ready for Y2K.

The government was the least ready? Yeah, what do you reckon the highest the sector rated highest for preparedness was the Deformed industry. The horns? Definitely military. The horns. Software industry. Software, oh they put themselves first. Oh, I was the vote because they were always obsessed with. Where did horns come in the list?

In Britain, military was ready well ahead of time. The horns, they did the horn sector. Some hours left out. But the military in the UK were fine. They got on to it really quickly and they put out. They were saying that we're ready if the local police and stuff struggle, the military is ready to come in and help out in case they miss us.

Just kill everything. Yeah, just kill everything that walks. Vacuum glitters, small children will kill them all. The direct quiet from the military. Yeah, from the military. From Britannica, worldwide an estimated $300 billion was spent upgrade computers and application programs to be watch UK compliant. That's a lot of cash. As the first day of January 2000 dawned, it became apparent that the computerized systems generally were still intact and

reports of relief filled the news media. These were followed by accusations that the likely incidents of failure had been greatly exaggerated from the beginning and that those who had worked in Y2K compliance efforts insisted that the threat had been real. So they're they're saying, oh no, no, we were real. No, we fixed it. Nothing happened because we fixed it. And I know the people are going, yeah, you made a lot of money fixing all these things, right? That sort of is bit self-servant.

Yeah, that doesn't make sense, but then there's other people that are like, I studied dentistry for this. Yeah. I feel like a right idiot. That's the real cost. That wasn't even taken into the 300 billion. 200 billion.

I feel like I could suit So yeah, so these so picking up It's not a dog maybe it is yeah All these dogs Hello dogs. Absolute doogs. Yeah, I can do you guys. So they maintained that the, the people who were working on the solution,

people who were working on the solution maintained that are working on the solution maintained that the continued viability of computerized systems was proof that their collective effort had succeeded. Oh, so they're like, hey, nothing happened because we spent $300 billion. That's right. And in following years, some analysis, no, that's not analysts.

That's the fuck. In following years, some analysts pointed out that programming updates that had been part of the Y2K compliance campaign had improved computer systems and that the benefits of these improvements would continue to be seen for time. What we're going to do in that weird voice after, say the words in order. Where was I hang on? In the following years some analysts pointed out the programming updates had been... Sam!

I've seen you find. In following years some analysts pointed out the programming updates that had been part of the Watch UK compliance campaign had improved computer systems and that the benefits of these improvements would continue to be seen for some time to come. Some unspecified time. So for the most part everything pretty cool but there were a bunch of minor problems, there was one problem on one issue that happened which is kind of a bit fucked up sort of Tossing out whether to talk about it or not, but some of the minor problems

National Geographic Report. Do I say de-agraphic? Yeah, you do National some of the minor problems National Geographic reported that in the end there were very few problems a Nuclear energy facility in Ishikawa, Japan, had some of its radiation equipment fail, but back up facilities ensured that there was no threat to the public. Thank goodness I was worried.

That could have been really bad. The US detected missile launches in Russia and attributed that to the Y2K bug, but the missile launches were planned ahead of time as part of Russia's conflict with the Republic of Chechnya Chechnya, and there was actually no computer malfunction. There was no, there was just genuinely bombing the shit out of Chechnya. Yeah, that was real bombing. That was no mistake. So like this bombs, like, so American. Probably the perfect excuse. Yeah, it is a great excuse.

Oh no, what's with bomb Chechnya again. Yes, we did that the last three weekends, but this was a Y2K, whatever you Americans call it. Thank you, this is Russia, bye. Oh, Russia out. Japan's largest mobile phone operator reported on the first gen to 2000 that some mobiles were deleting new messages received

rather than older messages as memory filter. I don't remember that being a thing, but it would like, sounds like it would automatically delete the oldest messages. No, I would remember it having to say, it would say memory full to lead old messages. You have to go through and think, oh, I don't need that anymore.

Well, I want to keep that moment. You don't have to think about your favorite messages. I don't have a mobile phone to do that. I would keep messages like that, you see. Maybe that would be a good thing. I wouldn't have got a phone tool like 2003. Yeah, I was about the same. I think 2002, I get a mobile.

Ooh, earlier adopter. Oh yeah, I was big into it. Is it because you had to, like, how did you get to school in high school? I got a phone from my my birthday because I My 12th birthday because it was also an MP3 player before they Existed To have like 13 songs on it. Look at an early iPhone. Yeah, that's pretty cool I got one in the edge 2003 because I wanted one because of my friends had them when I was in year seven,

and my parents wouldn't get me one because I lived a five-minute walk from school. So I didn't really need one, like if I got lost or not lost, but like if I was stuck at school, it's like just, you're not, just walk home. But then my brother bought me a phone because he's cool. Oh, that's really cool.

Yeah, my brother gave me a phone. That's really cool. I remember being like, yeah, everyone's doing, I'm like, 20. You would have been like, 20. Yeah, I was like, 20 when I got my first gave me a cool. I remember being like, yeah, everyone's doing it. You would have been like 20. Yeah, I was like 20 when I got my first phone, or I can, I can't see. You were 20 when you got your foot, isn't that hilarious? That's so funny.

Yeah, I was an, I reckon I was an adult. I was at uni, I was. And you didn't want it for a while? I was, yeah, I was like, I, Do you thought I was a fat? Stubborn sort of guy, just like, why don't you see the point? I don't see the bloody point, mate. But now? man now I can't keep you off that thing. Yeah, sorry

In the US school system one district reported that some water heaters have to be turned on manually What a crying shame I thought it was gonna be reported that some heaters had to be turned on and off again Before they fully heated up the room So they had to be turned on manually what one time? Yeah, I guess oh no, I think it's a maybe to that to be fixed so from then on that to be look I'm I'm reading the one sentence that I read about it, so that is That would be annoying if you had to.

You were like on a list of things that happened. Well, you really struggling to scrap together a list here aren't you? Yeah. Well, I had to turn on a heater. So, I mean, I hope to that every morning anyway. I just need you to turn on when you get to work. But this time I was doing it in the new millennium. This one slightly, I mean, slightly bigger, but not really. The US Naval Observatory, which runs the master clock that keeps the country's official time in America, obviously, gave the date on its website as first of January, 1900.

Oh, it did do it. Yeah. This date era also occurred on a bunch of other websites around the world, including a French weather forecasting service. Classic French weather. What year, what is that year? That's a long time away.

That's a hundred and... 1917,000 years away. It's 17,000 years away. 17,000 years away. It will be one day, the year 19,100. Whether or not anyone's still on the planet or it's a planet exists. It will be well, surely gone by by then but time will still continue to exist yeah well isn't time made up though yeah does time exist when we're not

here to talk to this conversation well time still passes but like the fact that it is the year 17th or it's time the date is just when you've started to count time's gonna be invented by man right So if man's not here to count time Does time really exist? Oh my god. I think time continues to pass, but you just don't have a an anchor for when it you started counting Great to disagree Well, I will find out in the years 1900 I don't I don't know what I'm talking about there. Again, in America, the Y2K bugs seem to turn youth into senior citizens,

which is a bit weird. What? There were reports of sexual assault, of sexual assault on an 83 year old woman by an 80 year old man, and two missing, missing, and two missing youths of ages 83 and 84 were among the flawed reports given by the faulty system, which caused the system to read year 2000 as the year 1900 and interpret the year of birth of the parties involved as

their ages. Okay, they're born in 80. Born in 80. Yeah. That makes sense. Well, it doesn't, but okay. Yeah, I don't like why does this, I don't understand why the system goes. I'm confused. Let's just make it up. Let's choose a thing. This one out of the whole list,

I read of things that happened. This one is an actual, this is a fucking, this is fucked. But I'll read it and we'll see in Sheffield in the UK the Y2K bug resulted in incorrect down syndrome in Sheffield in the UK the Y2K bug resulted in incorrect down syndrome tests results being given to 154 pregnant women Oh wow incorrect in which way in both both ways. Oh, that's awful. So it led to two abortions being carried out. Incorrect. Oh my god. Oh, there was actually genuinely bad stuff that happened. Yeah, yeah. We all laughed, but wow. No, I know. It was sort of like all these silly things.

Yeah, most of that sounds so trivial. Fucking hell. I'd never heard about that. Neither of us. That feels like that should be this story of the whole thing. Yeah, that's probably, I imagine the worst thing you're going to say. Yeah, that's the worst thing I've found by a long way. Oh.

Real bad. Oh, man. Anyway. Real bad. Oh man. Anyway. Yeah, pull it back up from there. Yeah, where do you thought that in? It's hard to find a spot for. You can't end on that. But anywhere else you've got a spot for.

Yeah, you're not there. Tune in next week. So yeah, the question as you were saying, day before, was all the money and panic worth it As I've already talked about this. There were two camps. I'll read it and then I'll figure it out. Great There were two camps the first argues that there were not many problems because of all the work that was done Um, and then others say that the problem was overstated in the lack of major catastrophes And the lack of major catastrophes meant that it was a waste of time and money.

As an example, actually, no, let me do this and I'll be able to use it. So Dave, as we were talking about before, was all that money worth it or not? You get $300 billion. Somehow there's sort of the two camps. Some saying, yeah, all the money spent meant that the problem was fixed and that's why we got through another people saying there were no problems and that's because there were no problems and it was a waste of money. But this and there's still arguments going either way about that ongoing and pubs around the world.

It's not true, but this I feel like this illustrates something maybe. Countries such as the US and the UK spent billions of dollars, the US spent about half of that 300 billion themselves. Combating the Y2K problem and they ended up having very few issues. Alternatively, countries such as Italy, Russia and South Korea had done very little to prepare for watch UK, and they also had very few issues. Oh, so they didn't spend the billions and they still got away with it. Yeah, I think Italians.

I think they're like, ah, I think the Russians did spend quite a bit, but like a tiny fraction of what America spent. And I think South Korea and Italy maybe spent very little if not hardly did anything at all. Couldn't be bothered. Well, maybe they're just like, I don't know. Let's just see what happens. Cool. So that's that's pretty much the end of the Irrimpalment there. I've got I don't think this is even really worth it. There's a couple of things about that I found that weren't really about the bug in while I was reading it. I kind of liked it.

I'll chuck him in. I'll chuck him in and we'll... Let's see. I wouldn't call him Funfax and they're not even about Y2K bug, but they're sort of about Y2K. The Jerry Springer show had a special to celebrate the Y2K. To celebrate the pending doom. And it was called Y2 lovers. And it was an episode in which people were confronted by both of their lovers. Incredible. That is. And that is an incredibly fun fact. How dare you preface that with those fun facts. They

definitely booked the guests and then went, oh fuck, we should do a Y2K. That's right. That's a pretty sweet Y2 lovers! Great, there's like, oh. They should have gone Y2K and then found a guy who'd slept with 2000 women. Oh yeah, or just two K's, two women named K. Yeah, and I thought it would be better because 2000 women's a lot of women. Not a few gene simmers. It's got like Y2J, Jerry Spr It's got like Y2J Jerry Springer. Oh, I don't know. Two Jerry Springer. I

don't have a second Jerry Springer on. You know what? This is 16 years too late. All these wonderful ideas. Damn it. We should have been there. Should have been there. A silicon valley hospital gave its first baby, born in the new year, a share of Yahoo stock and five shares of silicon graphics. Holy shit. Oh, is that worth a lot of money now? I don't think so. One share of Yahoo.

This is a weird thing to do. Oh. Good on you hospital. It's worth a lot of money now. Movie? Probably. Let's see. lot of money now. Would it be? Probably. I'd say that's a shame.

I know, I know. It would have been better if it was Google or Apple, then he'd be stoked. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, probably. I imagine early days, Yahoo, that's a long time ago. What have they done now? That's the LaRound. They partnered with Channel 7 in Australia. What are they doing?

Nothing. Nothing. Fuck off, yeah. They won that court case against Yahoo Sirius, where he was trying to sue them for use of his name. Are you serious? Sorry I couldn't commit to that. He really did that.

No, he lost. I said Yahoo Sirius. I'll do you. Finally, this one is not at all fun, but I found it very interesting and I did not realize it apparently 2001 was actually the start of the new millennium. Oh, not the year 2000 and the reason why the third millennium started in 2001 is because There was no year zero. Do you know that? Yeah, yeah, I, I imagine you would. So there was no year AD zero, and there was no year zero BC.

So I went from AD one, I went from BC one BC to AD one. So the year zero was skipped, therefore, January 1st, year one is defined to be the start of the first century, and the start of the first century and the start of the first millennium. What are the years called when? Never mind. But I don't think even those years were around at that stage where they, Dave, would you know that? Were they going well this is year one? I don't think I think it was retroactively done. Yeah I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that didn't just change it. Yeah.

Surely. Surely. Well, what's the remaining on a real hard fact here? Well, I'm afraid. But it's just like when you say the 15th century is actually the 1400s. As a kid that really because there's no Yeah, you should have finished on the Jerry Springer one. I can do. You can cut all this out. Should we? No, no, I'm kidding. You're a fucking count. What? Such language. Alright, let's finish. I mean, that's... So yeah, that was my little report. Thank you so much to Marcus for the suggestions. Yeah, thanks, Marcus. Good job Marcus. Feel free to message in Marcus.

I don't, I wonder if, because I don't know if he wanted the topic because he knew a bit about it and wanted to see what we talk about it or if he knew nothing, just wanted to find out. Either way, I apologize. No, I was, I found that really interesting.

I didn't know much about it. It's something that I lived through, but I know, just now we're nine at the time, so you don't really know. Passively accepted. I know it was. And it always seemed like a bit of a joke and I don't know was it a joke or did they just Make it a joke by spending lots of money on maybe our parents were secretly really scared

But they stayed really strong for our benefit. Yeah, yeah, I have no memory of any fear at all And I was you know, I was like a real person You're like I was in a double digits. You are super old like odd you nearly So old you nearly did You were like, I was in a double digits. You are super old. You're nearly poor. You're so old. You're nearly. I had that beard. Basically dead. You're practically dead. How would it have been? No, it would have been trying to almost grow beard there. Oh yeah. Cool man. Oh fuck you. Get out of my house. Let's see if you want to get in contact like Marcus did the email he tweeted tweeted at do go on the pod Do goon pod? We take note of all those tweets. We love when they come in email do go on pod or one word at gmail.com

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