Do Go On - 26 - Y2K Bug

Episode Date: April 20, 2016

"The Y2K Bug is coming to get us! We're all going to die!!!" The people would say in 1999, it wasn't quite the massive disaster that some predicted, but what was it?Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.

Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Do go on. My name is Dave Warnackie.

I am sitting here with Mr. Matt Stewart. Hey, Dave. What a pleasure to be here. Great. That's my number one point. Perfect. Number two. My number two point is, you're looking really good today.

Thank you. Right back at you across the table. That is very sweet of you to say. All right. I'm going to introduce another person now. Hopefully they'll give me another compliment. It is Jess Perkins. Hello, Jess.

Hi, Dave. Hello. And do you have anything to say to me? Nah. Hey, Jess. I love you jump for it. I love you, big blue eyes, and I just love you to pieces. You're just the best.

Oh, Dave, you're so cute. I love you. Squish your little cheeks. Oh, she is squishing my cheeks. These bum cheeks. Oh. Cup those tiny cheeks. That's so creepy.

Anybody have any compliments to me? It's weird if you ask for them. Don't give them to me now. That's fine. Hi, Matt. Cup my tiny cheeks. Ooh. That was a weird moment.

I loved it. I loved it. What do you guys been doing today? Cup and cheeks, mainly. Oh, mainly cup and cheeks. I had cocoa pops for breakfast for the first time in a long time. That's great. I already regret asking the question.

I had a banana because I... Blanida. Yeah, it's pretty fancy. And then a donut. It's been a good day. Oh, that is a good day. And how about you... Banana through the donut hole?

I... Oh. Yeah. Sorry. I didn't even... I just, you gave me two things, and my Tetris brain wanted to, like, slot them together. No, that's not, that's not any better. Is that a Tetris brain or a sexual brain?

Sextrous brain. Sextrous. You are ambixtrous. I'm ambixtrous. Matthew, what do you have for breakfast? Come on, it's a leading question. I had, look, this is what I do. I've got a bunch of different cereals.

So I go a little layer of rolled oats. Then I go a layer of brands. sticks, what do you call those brand stick guys? All brand. All brand sort of sticks, yeah. And then a layer of rice puffs. And then a layer of corn flakes. Wow.

And then... Are you also the one who does like... Milk through it. Two types of milk, though? Was that you? Yeah, two types of milk. I haven't heard that. What do you mean?

I mix rice milk and soy milk together. Rice is a bit sweet. Soi is a bit tart, thicker. Rice is a bit thin. Like, mix them together. And it's a delicious. Delicious. And your cereal with the layers, does it stay in layers?

Yeah, it's kind of like a parfei or a trifle. Breakfast trifle. Like a breakfast lasagna. Yeah, breakfast lasagna. Oh, wow. That's actually amazing. It's really good. It's very complicated.

And is it equal parts of every cereal? Equal parts. Where do you have time? I don't have time for breakfast. Hence I eat a banana as I run for the train. Well, you had time to get at the donut shop, Jess. Yeah, between trains. Connecting trains.

had donut time. I needed coffee. You should be grateful I had coffee. I'm very grateful. I am also grateful. I could use a coffee. Oh, well, instead. Well, that's right.

If you get through your report, your reward is a coffee. All right. Now, so what we're going to do is Matt's going to give us a report on a topic that Jess and I have no idea what it's going to be. I am interested. I believe last week you said that you were going to pull this one from the listener suggestions. The listener suggestions. from the hat, as we keep calling it? I have pulled it from the hat.

And do you do it at random? Yeah, it's random from the hat. I mean, you don't, there's no hat system. No, but I think you might like pick and choose from the hat. No, you might see the list and go, yeah, I want to do that one. Well, I think that would be disingenuous to the hat. I think the hat deserves better than that. I think everyone goes in equal.

They all come out equal, okay? It's an egalitarian hat. And I'm wearing it right now. I wear it around. I've always got ideas It's quite a sharp hat Under my hat Well very good

A little bits of paper Just fall out Yeah Then I have to put them back in That's okay So you're about to make the Dreams of one listener come true Possibly at the expense of every other listener

But that's okay We always start with a question What is your question going to be? My question is What virus was feared to be the most deadly In the 1900s Oh virus 1900s

So not 1986 The 20th century. Not AIDS or HIV? No, not AIDS. That would have been up there. And, I mean, you know, my question isn't based on anything. Any factual, that's fine. Jess, any viruses?

But that was a very good guess, Dave. What about malaria? I'll have another go. Malaria? No, it's not malaria. Yellow fever, black fever. Man flu? Man flu.

That's my most hated, but no, it's not that. Dengue fever. That's my, if I was going to. get any of the above that'd be the bottom of the list man flu oh um cancer that a virus doesn't sound like a fun topic either people are terrified i know history of cancer today i'm going to talk cancer hope you got some zingers

all right Oprah you get some cancer you get some cancer you get some cancer 1900s everybody gets cancer Look, I want to laugh, but also I don't want to approve that comment. You can laugh at my Oprah impression. That's what I'm laughing at. Not everybody getting cancer.

That's not funny. Virus. Matt, give us a cluey. It's not, okay. I was going to say, is it Y2K? It is Y2K. I was going to say you're going to have to think outside of the box. I was thinking of Y2K, but then I thought, but 1900s, that makes me think early 1900s.

Perkins, Perkins, fuck you Dave. So would you say that technically I am, but I was born in 1990, am I a child of the 1900s? Yes. Hooray! So you were born, you were a child in the 1900s? I was, but fair enough. You were 10. You can't argue, mate.

I would say the 1900s. You were to associate with pre-World War I, is what I imagine. But that's fine. I was very good. I'm excited for this topic. My 2K. So this was tweeted into us, this one, by a man named Marcus. Hello, Marcus.

Hi, Marcus. Thanks so much for the suggestion, a very good suggestion. Yeah, it is. Well, let's wait and see how Matt's report goes. Yeah. Look, I'm saying the suggestion was good. Great. The report, I'm sorry, Marcus, I probably haven't, as is my want.

It is probably a little underdone. But it's a very interesting topic, probably. Okay. Well, I mean, prove it. Okay, so. So it's like most commonly known, I think to me, as the Y2K bug. But it had a bunch of other names. I remember Millennium bug is the other one.

It's also called the Year 2000 bug, which is where Y2K comes from. One is for year. Two is for two. And K is for thousand. And also this one, which came up a lot in my reading, but I don't remember ever hearing it. It was called a lot less catchy. the year 2000 problem.

Not as good. Bug is good. Yeah, I like bug. Yeah. But I also just imagine like a little beetle. Just a little beetle running around. Everyone's like, oh, no, no, it's just a little beetle. That's not a problem.

He's all right. Like a little ladybug. My older sister was in year 12 in 99, I think, or 2000. And she, so her, you know, markup day, they'd often have dress up themes at some schools. We certainly didn't do that. but they, because at our school, right, they were a bit worried about what we were going to do, not because of my house got a well-behaved young fella, but our year level was pretty loose. So they called us in on a Wednesday and said, for an assembly and said, by the way, that's the end of your schooling.

Go home now. Like they didn't give us any heads up as to when our last day was going to be, so we couldn't have a markup day. Any time, you could be graduating. Yeah, yeah. bum, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. But they made it sound like, they're like, we'll let you know. So, obviously, we'll let you know a week in advance or whatever. But they just never did.

And then they're like, yeah, this is it. You're done. Everyone, leave, please. Wow. But my sister's class, I had time. That is such an anti-climax to school. Yeah, it was weird. But they did, the favor they did do us, because our school, St. Beds, was across the road from this pub called the Mentone Hotel or the edgy.

We have a pub. I'm across the road from your high school. Yeah, and Wednesdays was the big student sort of night there, and they let us finish on a Wednesday. So I reckon that couldn't have been, Quincy. So we're looking after. Off you go. Off to the pub.

Straight to the pub. And I turned 18 that week. Nice. It was, anyway, look, this is hardly relevant. See, my school let us have a muck up day, but they were very clever because it was an all girl's school. They scheduled the muck up day for the same day as our graduation ceremony. So we all like, I mean, we still have.

had fun but nobody wanted to ruin their spray tan or their hair and then we all left to go get ready so we were very well but that was genius yeah smart that is smart play you're gonna have be fun but you're not going to have a water fight like there's not going to be water balloons because nobody wants to nobody wants to streak their fake tanne was fake tan big yeah oh real big not for me you don't need it you got a lovely natural glow very pasty natural glow anyway remember that product that was an english woman used to spook it on daytime tv I'm here to sell natural glow Can you say the word

I'm here to sell No she doesn't That's terrible Opening for an advertisement Hi Want to buy something Because I'm here to sell it I've got a shitty product

You want it No Natural glow She was great What you do is you put it on There you go Great Buy it all right

Yeah my sister So her theme was millennium a bug or Y2K bugs so they all came dressed as like

bees and different ladybugs so they were obviously treating it as a comedy thing yeah they weren't worried they well

I don't remember having any fear of it like I was I was a teenager in 99 you guys were quite young do you have any memories

were nine no not really I remember people were being worried about it but I don't remember even thinking about it I was kind of

like no that can't possibly be right yeah computers aren't that dumb I had more faith in computers than in people yeah yeah I don't know I think

all I remember is that Silvergeo song anthem for the year 2000 we'll make it up to you and me yeah I didn't like that song very much I like silver chair oh look this isn't we're not going to turn this into a silver chair bashing session again just please fool me once shame on you

fall us twice this is not that third third time. Yeah. So, but Y2K, I don't know, I know the, maybe the basics of it all. Yeah, I don't know a lot about it. I didn't know, I didn't really know anything about it. I'd reckon out a vague idea, but it was, anyway, did you know, Dave? I thought you'd like this.

Oh. Do you know what a numeronym is? Y2K is a numeronum, numeronum. Is it sort of like a, um, uh, never mind. How do you, so was it like numeronim? Yeah, numeronym. Is it because it has like Y2K? Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a word that...

It's like an acronym with a number in that. Yeah, exactly. That's what I was going to do. And initialism is what I was saying. In the Wikipedia example, page about numerisms, numeronims, they mentioned the word initialism, which is the first time I would have ever noticed. That is a real word, which you introduced us to on this very... Can you think of any other numeronims?

They listed some. I can't... Oh, K-9 was one. Oh, yeah. K-9. Yeah. They did have a whole list. Oh, AK-47?

Yeah, there's one. Cool, there we go. I'm happy I got one. That's all I needed. Well done. Jess. I didn't get one. Never get one.

No, I just wanted you to realize that. So. What about DB-9? That doesn't count, does it? Yeah. DB-9. I don't know what that means. Like the Aston-Martin-Martin-B-9.

You mentioned that before? Perfect. Nailed it. I got one. Dreamboat, nine. Dreamboat. Yeah. I reckon that counts. Great. We've all got one. We can move up. I love that. Neumor and them. So the Y2K bug was a problem in the coding of computerized systems that was expected by some leading up to the year 2000 to create havoc in computer networks around the world when the clock sticked over from 1999 to 2000. This was due to the fact that many computers built from the 60s up to the 80s were designed to abbreviate four digit years to two digits in order to save memory space.

Oh, right, right, right. So I was going to go from 99 to 00. Exactly. So they'd say, instead of saying 1965 when they were designing a program, it would just say 65. Because they, yeah, the reason was that data storage was. so expensive back then. Like, even little bits of storage like that would cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars.

But it does seem, you know people, how computer people from the 60s, they were always thinking about the future and always predicting, and the year 2000 will live on the moon and everyone will have a computer the size of a house. They always have that, but to not even think about how in less than

30, in less than 40 years, that would be a problem. I'd talk about that a little bit. They did, some did foresee it. So, yeah. Anyway, I'll talk about that in a sec. But, you know, it seems pretty crazy now. Don't you reckon that, like, 19, like, digitally, the numbers, 1,9. It's like, we got a safe space wherever we can.

Yeah, that's like, what is that, the smallest thing ever? Yeah. Like, I'm just tired, you know, a Google Doc right now. I've just written a whole page of 19 over and over again. What's that costing a million dollars? Costs me nothing. $19.65. Yeah.

Free. But here in 2016, nothing at all. Absolutely free. I've just Select all, copy, paste Just doubled it, still free Fuck You can't be stopped

I won't be stopped Here's a quote Do you guys know Alan Greenspan It's kind of a big name in American finance He was the chairman of the Federal Reserve Of the US from 1987 to 2006 Oh yeah I was at high school then doing

Greenspan. Economics and stuff. I know that's why I know his name. But he... I was doing drama at high school, so... Yeah, right, okay. I know Brecht. Ooh.

Now, that's perked my interest. First of all, Brecht. No, please go on about Greenspan. He was obviously a big wig. Yeah, so he, but he was around that time, but earlier he was a computer programmer. So in 1998, when the Y2K bug was starting to get a lot of mainstream coverage.

He said this. He said, I'm one of the culprits who created this problem. I used to write those programs back in the 60s and 70s, and I was proud of the fact that I was able to squeeze a few elements of space out of my program by not having to put a 19 before the year. Back then, it was very important. We used to spend a lot of time running through various mathematical exercises before we started to write our programs so that they could be very clearly delimited with

respect to space and the use of capacity. It never entered our minds that those programs would have lasted for more than a few years. As a consequence, they are very poorly documented. If I were to go back and look at some of the programs already 30 years ago, I would have one terribly difficult time working my way through step by step. So you just wrote a whole lot of stuff. It was like, ah, in a couple of years now when we use this? Yeah, it's like, it's a computer, as if people are going to still be using this computer program in 40-something years.

True. I mean, that was why they sort of saw that it could have been an issue, but didn't think that it would possibly, in reality, become an issue. So a lot of these older programs were still being used then, is that right? Yeah, that's right. The old hardware and software programs in... But it's not like... So I think I often was thinking about it, like, is computers, you know,

like laptops and PCs and that sort of stuff. Yeah, that's what I always imagined. But there's computers in everything, you know? Yeah, true. cash register. Just like everything and not, everything is a computer. Yeah, pretty much.

Everything. So people worry that everything was just going to want. Malfunction. Yeah, that's right. They thought, haywire. Well, they, yeah. So as we got closer to the year 2000, computer programmers realized that some of these older computers would still be in use

and that that meant that they would represent the year 2000. because they're only... 2 digits. So when it goes to 2000, they realized that it would either think that it'd gone back to 1900 or some computer programs just kept counting up,

so it went up from 99 to 100, so they thought it was 19100, like a crazy year into the future. Right, okay, but how would that affect it? Would it just not want to work? I would just be confused and maybe... The fear would be that they'd either shut down or they'd give wrong results,

and it would just have a chain reaction that would muck up the whole system. So if it was like a cash register, it just wouldn't work anymore. So people can't get cash. So there was a lot of panic around that people after New Year's, just wouldn't be able to get money anymore. You know, the machines would stop working. And there was like all this crazy panic. And, you know, millions of people all of a sudden want to...

Isn't that hilarious how those little... Everyone just accepts it that little piece of paper in our polymer plastic. in our country, just represents money. Yeah. We just have to agree that I give you this and that equals 100 units of dollars. Yeah, it certainly doesn't, but, I mean, it does. It's really, it's very odd. It is weird, but it's, but it's, you think about it too much.

The system works, right? Yeah, it does, but then... Stop putting ideas in people's minds, Dave. People were worrying that the system was not going to work. And they couldn't get their cash. Yeah, yeah. And when did someone first identify this as a problem and it started getting mainstream... Well, it was...

The first time of... was written about was I think in or talked about was in the 60s first time was written about was in the 80s but it was really slow for people to the fear to really get going and that was late 90s it was only the last couple of years where people were really starting to go we got to start fixing some of this some of these programs start rewriting the bloody program yeah of course um so some of the places that were affected the most uh the y2k problem was obviously not as was same, not limited to computers running conventional software. Many devices containing computer chips ranging from things like elevators, ATMs.

Oh, trapped in an elevator. Temperature control systems, commercial medical equipment. So, you know, like everything. Everything is a computer. Yeah. But as well as that. And the things that we're really making people afraid were like, you know, nuclear warheads. like there's buttons around that

you know in the president's office but just a button gets pushed and she gets blown up right what happens if that is a program that controls that just malfunctions and just shoots what if the president just slips yeah that's another thing that's another thing that's not Y2K related

but that's a concern of mine I often worry about the president's slippage on New Year's Eve the president like many people Has a few drinks. Yeah. What if he or she? Especially at the Millennium Eve.

Yeah, that was a big one. Who was in power? Bill. Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton. Oh, and he was a bit of a party animal. He had his saxophone out. Playing Baker Street.

That was a careless whisper. Oh, sorry. Calis Whisper. Thank you, Dave. I was still thinking about last week's episode about... 221 B Baker Street. B Baker. I took my love down to Baker Street.

Did that song connected to that? I reckon that maybe it's just a catchy thing that Jerry Rafferty, the singer, put in. Did you know Jerry Rafferty used to be in a comedy duo with Billy Connolly? What? No, but I do know that he's the singer of Steelers' Wheel

who sing, Stug in the middle with you. But was he in a duo? Not a comedy duo, sorry. Like a folk duo. But Billy, more and more, his little bits of chat in between songs got longer and funnier. And much better than he's, Folk.

Yeah. I think he played banjo maybe. Yeah, he does play banjo. Banjo, yeah. I thought that blew my mind when I heard that. That's fantastic. That's great. A little factoid for you there.

Oh, just a little chakotide. Hello, I'm a little factoid here. I'll just drop that on the table. Run along. And I'm done. Boom, and I'm gone. And I'm gone. Who was that guy again?

Who was the boom and I'm gone go? Boom, and I'm gone. I didn't remember either. That was you. That was so fucking funny. I laughed so hard. I think it was in, um... Oh, no.

And I'm going. Oh, it was Santa Claus. Yeah, it was. Boom, and I'm gone. Is that Father Christmas or something? The original Father Christmas catchphrase. You want a Tonka truck? Boom, and I'm gone.

Jerry Rafferty? banks so banks were one of the one of the focal points of the fear um apart from you know ATMs closing and that sort of stuff they also rely on computers to calculate interest daily so um and it would normally you know instead of ticking over one more day it would change interest by one day but in this case they were worried that it might change it by minus 100 years so people have just suddenly lost trillions of dollars loss or like the bank is owed all this interest from people who's borrowed and all of a sudden that's just wiped and maybe it's I don't know what's negative interest I mean none of it that turned

out not to be a problem but anyway that was one of the fear of power plants is another one so they depend on routine computer maintenance for safety checks such as you know water pressure and radiation levels so not having the correct date would mark these up these calculations up and possibly have like a meltdown at nuclear power plant so the surrounding areas yeah nuclear power or or any of the you know crazy power plants uh nuclear uh wind hydro hydro gas coal coal could just start of been flinging everywhere everywhere we'd be sitting in a sea of coal yeah that could happen happy new year jess yeah like a new coal house Why are you going at me?

Can you imagine if the wind farms got out of control? We'd be having bad headaches for weeks. You'd wind everywhere. Yeah, lots of wind. Oh, no. The wind computers broke. Why, are you making fun of wind power because if in a catastrophe it wouldn't be that bad?

No, I'm making that... Yeah, it wouldn't be that bad because what's that? We live with the wind anyway. Oh, no, now the wind. Mill's just going around and around and not doing anything. I meant more that like wind is another name for farts. Oh, I didn't get that at all. Oh, I was on that level as well.

I was working on two comedic levels. And you know how much I love an opportunity to make fart noises. Is that what that noises you make? I just thought that was just like a negative noise. Well, it's a bit of both. Negative farts. Negative farts. I just, I never associate farts with negative.

That's like negative interest is akin to negative farts. Negative 100 years of fart. I think a negative... I've lost... I've lost a million dollars of farts. Sucked in. Sucked in fart. Oh.

You feel that? That's the Dow Jones is going down the shitter. Oh no. Lost the Natsat. Oh, God. Cup that Alan Greenspan, you prick. Hey, so transportation. Transportation is another one.

So you're probably, this is, this is one of the big ones. Can you please list some transportation? Okay, transportation. You got. Aeroplanes. Airplanes. That was the big one. People feared that airplanes at midnight would just fall from the sky.

Sure. That was like a genuine fear. Yeah, I remember hearing that. So do they actually, do they risk it and have planes flying? Yes. Because I always get a little bit edgy about air travel, as most people do. And I think, I don't know. I don't know.

Like, I've just booked a trip to Europe and I didn't. want to fly back on September the 11th. It just freaked me out. It was the 15th anniversary of that horrible event. You just didn't want to do it. I think I am actually, I did take the ticket because it's much cheap. I was like, well, I'm not going to let that stupid fear cost me $400. Yeah, no.

Those stupid fears are the best because if everyone's feeling it, you can clean up. I think that's why I was profiting. Yeah, sweet profit from terrorism. You profit from terrorism. Oh, my God. Federal offense. He's a Nazi sympathizer, too. No.

If you listen to the tape, I just, said before it was known, listen to the old episode. Before Hitler was that bad. No. Hitler wasn't that bad. Never said that. He was real bad. But he wasn't that bad.

You know Dave makes me out it out all his neo-knots and chat. Oh God, no, I do not. Everything that we say goes straight to your ears, listeners. Everything. Including fight bank. Cup that, Hitler. It had to be funny out of context. Just fart notes is, cop that Hitler.

You too, Stalin? I love that thing. But Matt, you were talking about aeroplanes. I asked the question, were people brave enough to tempt it? So to show how confident they were that planes wouldn't fall from the sky, the FAA, which is the Federal Aviation Administration in America, Senate's chief Jane Garvey on a flight that would be in the air over the midnight hour. That is the worst assignment because

It's a great power play It's just like people going Yeah you would say it's okay Because But they're like from their chief But they're going Yeah look We'll send anyone

The chief is The chief is spending their New Year's on a plane That sucks isn't it I've got some good overtime Hopefully first class Yeah She was the chief

Do you reckon she had a little bit of doubt I would You'd have a bit Wouldn't you? Yeah You'd have a bit The worst part would be If just the plane

happened to malfunction Yeah, it crashed anyway. Like, I know a bird gets in the engine or whatever that happens. Unrelated, yeah. Completely unrelated. And then everyone's like, well, there you go. Night birds? Like an owl.

Well, night owl. Or a bat. An owl just flying 40,000 feet in the air, you know. But I aim to just to hear how Jane went. Did she survive? She did survive. Oh, thank goodness. That flight.

Jesus, disappointed. That is, yeah. Sorry, I know, I built that up as a night. Like, that would have been a real fun quirk. It's like, you got kirk. You got cocky, Jane. Yeah, that's right. Now you're dead. Roll the dice.

She may be dead. This is a while ago. The flight... I hope she's dead. I'm a fan of Jane. I'm a big fan. I think she's great. She puts her money where her mouth is.

Yes. And I imagine she gets paid a lot of, she's the chief of the FAA. Exactly. That's a lot of money. It's a lot of mouth. That flight also included a passenger whose life goal was to be flying as the clock ticked over into the new millennium. It's the world's worst life got.

Look, what do you mean? Imagine, like, if someone said that, I think, like, Jane would start worrying that they were going to just kill everyone. Yeah. Clearly, there's something wrong. My life goal, imagine that you'd be freaking out looking at the clock. Five, four, sorry, we've changed time zones. One hour and five, four, it just keep happening.

Yeah. It would be really hard to judge. Yeah, I know, which computer, like, did it all depend on which computer you're worried about? It's just a small domestic flight. Yeah, it was a domestic flight. I think it was going to Dallas or something like that. Yeah, it was like Melbourne to Sydney, you know, fine. That's my life goal.

But due to the widespread fears of planes falling from the sky, this lady whose life goal it was, was a 63-year-old named Janet Rhodes, it took her three attempts to book a flight at this time, two earlier bookings were cancelled due to lack of passengers. She had to book three times. Yeah, she really, really wanted it. She was like, I'll pay for all the seats. Yeah. I'll do it.

She mortgages her house. She ended up, I think it was only, she was one of 36 on that flight, so it was, it was sort of still a pretty empty flight. People just weren't keen. But until just now, I'm like, yeah, people were afraid. But now, they're like, well, maybe they're just doing stuff. It's also, yeah, it's New Year's Eve. Yeah.

You'd hope you'd have plans. If you don't, get some friends, you're loser. Yeah, come on. What's the name, Jan. Janet. Janet and Jane. What a combo. I kind of like the idea of like if something did happen when the clock went back and thought it was 1900.

It was just like the technology just reverted. Somehow it became like a Wright Brothers plane. Yeah, they had to all pedals. Just like that. Yeah, yeah. It's open top. And they're also in like old-timey clothes. That, now that's a fun bug.

That's just magic. I'm into that, yeah. That sounds like a Doctor Who episode. You sound like a Doctor Who episode. Oh, hey Jess. I agree that he needed to be dressed down verbally there in some way, but I think you took it a little too far in this instance. Sorry, Dave.

Okay, Dave, do you accept? Well, I would accept it if you give me another fart bank. And we're back. Oh, that's a really sweet moment. What a gesture. What a gesture. A gesture. Just a gesture.

I love that. This show is becoming worse and worse at bad puns. Or I am at least. Or better and better at bad puns. Did you guys know that there was a telemovie called Y2K made to be aired in 1999 by the NBC in America? That feels like fearmongering. Well, do you think so? Because it's alternative.

You say fearmongering. But it's alternative. title, I think we'll alleviate some stress. They called it Countdown to Chaos. That's the thing. They're doing it right before it's about to happen. Like if it came out in 2004 or something, you'd be like, yeah, that's fine, whatever. Yeah, that's laughable.

Yeah, then you can sort of be like, oh, we're a bit silly to be so worried. But happening like, this is going to happen. But I mean, no one cares about it afterwards, I guess. As soon as it, nothing happens, it's like, well. And in the movie. But now they look like bigger dickheads because nothing happened. In the movie, did it. Well, if they called it Countdown to Cal, I think it went well, Dave.

It's like that movie, that film, like, what was it called, 2010? And it was about... Yeah, 2012. 2012. And then it's like, well, that's relevant for about four minutes. Oh, that's what, it was the 2012, mine calendar. And then it's released just at the end of 2011. And now it's like, well, that's hilarious.

Yeah, that'll never be seen again. Well, that dated itself very quickly. But was the plot of Countdown to Chaos? Well, let me tell you, I've written down, a review from IMDB from a user called Puffy Luck. Oh, one of my favorite users. Yep, they gave it one star out of 10. Oh, that's it out of one?

No, no. One out of 10. And wrote this review. I mean, this is like, I think they were personally affected by the movie, and that may be why they were so brutal about it. I was working for Bank X when this movie came out. The corporate officers actually released a statement, and we all had to attend a meeting. letting us know what the movie was about, how it portrayed banks

and how we had to assure customers that things that happened in the movie wouldn't happen in real life. I thought the meeting was a waste of time. Who was really going to come in and freak out about it? Well, apparently half of our customers. We had people ordering money to bury in their backyards. Almost every customer wore...

Hang on, what... So, like, you ring up and you fill out a form and there's a box where you take... What are you going to do with this money? buried in my backyard. Yeah, I know. It's very specific. And I'm guessing people were telling her, I'm going to, I need this to bury my money.

Yeah, can I have $8,000 from my account? We've only got $8,000. Yes, I know. I'm going to bury it in my backyard. How would you like that? Just in a box. Just a box of waterproof. Small.

No, I mean in like 20s or 10. Yeah, okay. In a box. All right. Do you sell shovels? At this bank. Yeah, that's right. If you withdraw $5,000, you get a free shovel.

this week. Ooh, that's a good deal. Almost every customer warned me to go straight home on New Year's Eve. A lot of people wanted to know if the ATMs were going to be working and when we would start rationing out the money. Rationing out the money like scraps. Then she went on to say, or he, I don't know, it's the name, Puffy Luck. I want to say he.

Sounds like a dog. He went on to say. It was disgusting that people were this gullible and stupid. He was disgusted by the people. It was disgusting. It has nothing to do with the film. This movie was a waste of time for anyone with half a brain. And the cause of a paranoid breakdown for people dumb enough to believe it.

Thanks NBC for making the last two weeks of 1999 a living hell for me and the other bank employees. Posted 2009. Yeah. What a fucking lunacy. The years later that they posted this? No, I think it was that. It was in 2000. What a fucking idiot.

That is fantastic. And I want to see this movie so badly now. Yeah. It's a telemovie, so was it low budget, no famous people. I didn't recognize any name. Freaked out all the banks. But there was another movie I saw, which was also, I think it was either called Y2K, and it might have been a, have a cinematic release.

And it was like, it was like an army action movie. Like the nuclear warheads were going to go. off and all that sort of stuff. And it had, the only guy I recognised in it was Malcolm McDowell. Oh yeah, from Clockwork Orange. Yes. He plays Alex. He's quite old now.

Very old. Yeah, I mean, this was 20 years ago or whatever. Time Magazine interview. So, this is another thing. I'm not still talking about that other thing. I'm so excited. Have we moved on from the movies? If you're interested, I'm going to organise a public screening of that film.

Great. That would be really great. Listeners come along. Let's do it here. It'd be really fun. That'd be really good. I'm in. Time magazine, there was this great article in Time Magazine from pretty much bang on, started 2000.

It was some great stuff. So a lot of that I've used. Time Magazine interviewed a couple named Bruce and Diane Eckhart from Lisbon, Ohio, and who at the time were preparing for the Y2K disaster. And they were actually with them on New Year's Day, as they were sort of realizing that... Oh, what was their reaction? They were like...

One quote, they were like... They're sort of saying, oh, it seems like everything's going okay. But we haven't heard anything out of Guam, which is a little bit disturbing. Oh, really searching for... Something. Yeah.

I haven't heard anything from Indonesia. I mean, I haven't... I've never spoken to anyone from Indonesia before. There's no reason why they... I haven't checked. But still... It's funny saying some of the... You know, because I think of 2000, it doesn't feel like forever ago,

but you see websites from 2000, and they are like the most basic... Yeah. Geo-Cities-looking things. Yeah, like you could make something on your phone in five minutes. It looks better than that now. Yeah. So I went through...

I actually looked up some old websites and stuff about with tips of what to do, and they were like your cool old-school-looking website. That's awesome. But these guys, Bruce and Diane, they really went all out. They stockpiled six months' worth of food. They converted all their savings into gold coins.

Oh, you idiots. They practice... So in dystopia, are we supposed to respect gold? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, people were thinking it was just going to go back to the, you know, the dark ages sort of thing. One's the dark ages? Like, well beyond, like early man sort of thing. What?

No, right, later than early man before the dark ages. Dave, what's the time I'm sort of talking about here? Gold's valuable. Well, gold's always been quite valuable. Yeah, okay. I was talking about that time. Always. Pirates is working here.

I'm talking about the pirate years. The pirate, right. Are they practice firearm skills? Oh my God. They conducted surprise drills in the months leading up. What? What? Wake up, wake up.

There's only two of them. Yeah. No, and a daughter. And a teenage daughter. Oh, the poor girl. Wake up, wake up. Get the gold coins. Get in the bend.

Get in the bin. They've got a bin. Safety bin. Get in the bin. I meant bunker. Shit. Get in the bed. Christine, get in the bed.

Get in the fucking bit. 38 seconds. We're dead. We're all dead. Well done, Christine. Well, fucking done. You went the bed again. They had a quote from the...

I thought she was a teenager. They've scared the shit out of it. Well, just get the piss out of it. She might have been a bit younger than a teenager, so I think, you know... She could have shut herself. Well, we're all susceptible at any time. I'm not beyond it. But the only thing they's quoted from her was...

when it was becoming clear that nothing was happening, she was just like, she was sounding like she was getting sick of it, she's like, well, you know, if it happens, it happens, whatever. To her mom and dad, and her dad apparently still going, worried about the people from the town across coming and stealing their supplies. It's like strangers, you know, they've been looking at our supplies and stuff, like super paranoid. Yeah, because you look like a lunatic.

And the, the, the journalist said that the daughter had just been, all morning singing along to show. Cheryl Crowe. I don't even think of one. What's his Cheryl Crow song? I got a feeling. I'm not the only one. Oh my God.

You picked that up so fast. Is that Cheryl? Yeah. Is it? That's Cheryl. Big Trump. You bet you gold coins on that? Sweet bippy.

Oh my God. Sweet bippy. So, but I mean. They also studied basic dentistry and field medicine. Oh my God. I was about to say to this point it's like, well, it's not that bad. You can convert the coins back. You can eat the food over the next year or so.

That's fine. But you've, what? Basic dentistry and medicine. These people are fucked. Diane did say that she was committed to eating the heaps of cans of spam, whether or not there was a disaster. The thing is, I actually really like spam. And she was already looking to the bright side, because she's like.

On the right side, I got six months of stuff. Spam. And she's got all that food, but she's got... Spam! I goddamn love... The Monty Parthen sketch, that's like my house. She was... She's already thinking...

Spam! Spam and gold. No, what are you going to say? Sorry. She's committed. I know, she... Yeah, so she was... She's...

I was really expecting another... I was going to do it again. She was for spam, didn't you? No. Um, she... I have no idea. What was I talking about? Spam!

How she was looking on the bright side. Oh yeah, that's right. She was already saying, well, I've now I've got all this money save. And all this spam! And I've got all this food. So I don't need to spend on food coming up for the next six months. So she was planning on buying a jacuzzi. Oh, that's fantastic.

That's looking at the bright side. Everyone's a winner baby. That's the truth. But basic dentistry. You know what you could fill the jacuzzi with? Spam! And gold. Spam and gold.

What a combo. Gold spam. I feel like in the future, food would be way more worthy, like valuable than gold. Yeah, because you can eat it. Yeah. Oh. So the solution to the year 2000 problem, the money. Right.

So my question is, at this point, we all laugh now, but did it not affect anything because people did something to fix it or did it just, was never a problem ever? that is still debative Oh So like you know what I mean Like everyone laughs But maybe in the 80s and 90s People were like Oh well just update those computers

It would be sweet Or was it like No those old computers are cool They're fine They're double O No double nine They don't give a shit They're a computer

They're fine In my head it was like At the At midnight It was going to be like Your vacuum cleaner Would turn on And like murder you

Yeah Like everybody just thought All computers Are gonna just be like Robots out to kill you Yeah Like everything in your They might be confused about the date, but does that make them homicidal?

Yes. Well, that was the concern. Debatable. Debatable. We'll never know. So the Y2K bug was both a software and hardware problem, obviously. So software and hardware companies raced to fix the bug in the, you know, 98, 99. And provided Y2K compliant programs to help.

It was found that the simplest solution was seen to also be the best. which was simply expanding the date the year to from two digits to four digits. And that was like a problem solved. It was very simple. Very simple, but very hard to do. So some of these computers, right, like in an ATM or something, that's attached into the mainframe of the whole machine. So it's hard to just get in there and you can't change that part.

So I look, does it seem clear to you? I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about. No, I understand. I think what you're trying to say is the clock is actually physically inside it. So you have to... It's not just a code that you go. You actually have to change the clock. Yeah, so it's tricky.

It's tricky to rock and rub to rock and ride. It's tricky because you have to change what billions of clocks around the world. Yeah, that's right. So it's just a slow, tedious process. And it was just time-consuming. In the years leading up to the turn, to the turn of the millennium. I keep saying that, but it's not quite 100% true.

But anyway, I'll keep saying until I correct myself later. In the years leading up to the turn of the millennium, tech teams worked to fix the issues. In America, there were worries that the public sector was lagging behind, as they tend to do, bloody public sector, is it all right? And a Y2K preparedness survey was commissioned in late 1998 by a New York computer industry consulting firm, and that showed that among the 13 economic

sectors studied in the US, government was the least ready for Y2K. The government was the least ready? Yeah, what do you reckon the highest, the sector rated highest for preparedness was... The horn industry. The horns? Definitely military. The horns. Software.

Oh, they put themselves first. Because they were obsessed with... Where did horns come on the list? In Britain, military was ready well ahead of time. Horns, they did, the horn sector somehow was left out. But the military in the UK were fine. They got under it really quickly and they put out, they were saying that we're ready,

if the local police and stuff struggle, the military's ready to come in and help out in case of emergency. Just kill everything. Yeah, just kill everything that walks. Vacuum gliders, small children, will kill them all. The direct quote from the people. Yeah, from the military. It's from Britannica.

Worldwide, an estimated $300 billion was spent to upgrade computers and application programs to be Y2K compliance. That's a lot of cash. As the first day of January 2000 dawned, it became apparent that the computerized systems generally were still intact, and reports of relief filled the news media. These were followed by accusations that the likely incidents of failure had been greatly exaggerated. from the beginning. Oh. And that those who had worked in Y2K compliance efforts insisted that the threat had been real.

So they're saying, oh, no, no, we was real. Nothing happened because we fixed it. And other people were going, yeah, you made a lot of money fixing all these things, right? That sort of was a bit self-serving. Yeah, that does make sense. But then there's other people that are like, I studied dentistry for this.

Yeah. I feel like a right idiot. That's the real cost. That wasn't even taken into the $300 billion. I feel like they could. suit. So, yeah, so these... Is that picking up, Dracca?

Is that a dog? Maybe it is, yeah. Who are these dogs? Who are you? Low dogs. Absolutely dogs. Yeah, we can get going. So they maintained that the...

The people who were working on the solution, people who are working on the solution maintained that the continued viability of computerized systems was proof that the collective effort had succeeded. Oh, so they were like, hey, nothing happened because we spent $300 billion. That's right. And in following years, some analysis, no, that's sorry, analysts. In following years, some analysts pointed out that programming updates that had been part

of the Y2K compliance campaign had improved computer systems and that the benefits of these improvements would continue to be seen for time. We're going to do it in that weird voice I have to say the words in order. Where was the, hang on. In the following years, some analysts pointed out that programming updates had been... Sans!

I've seen fine. In following years, some analysts pointed out the programming updates that had been part of the Y2K compliance campaign had improved computer systems and that the benefits of these improvements would continue to be seen for some time to come.

Some unspecified time. So, for the most part, everything pretty cool. But there were a bunch of minor problems. There was one issue that happened, which is kind of a bit fucked. I'm sort of tussing out whether to talk about or not. But some of the minor problems, National Geographic report...

Did I say Deographic? Yeah, you did. Some of the minor problems, National Geographic reported that in the end there were very few problems. A nuclear energy facility in Ishikawa, Japan, had some of its radiation equipment fail, but backup facilities ensured that there was no threat to the public. Oh, thank goodness. I was worried.

That could have been really bad. The US detected missile launches in Russia and attributed that to the Y2K bug, but the missile launches were planned ahead of time as part of Russia's conflict with the Republic of Chechnya. And there was actually no computer malfunction. There was no, they were just genuinely bombing the shit out of Chechnya. Yeah, that was real bombing. That was no mistake. So, like, there's bombs, like, so, America.

It would be the perfect excuse. Yeah, it is a great excuse. Oh, no. Whoopsy. Whoops, we've bombed Chechnya again. Yes, we did that the last three weekends, but this was a Y2K, whatever you Americans call it. Thank you. This is Russia.

Bye. Out. Russia out. Japan's largest mobile phone operator reported on the 1st of January 2000 that's some mobiles were deleting new messages received rather than older messages as memory filled up. So I don't remember that being a thing, but it would like, sounds like it would automatically delete the oldest messages. No, I would remember it having to say, it would say memory full to lead old messages. You have to go through and think, oh, I don't need that anymore.

Well, I want to keep that moment. You don't have to like sort of think about your favorite messages. I didn't have a mobile phone in 2000, though. Maybe that's how it used to be. Maybe they were weird like that back then. I wouldn't have got a phone until like 2003. Yeah, I was about the same. I got 2002, I got a mobile.

Ooh, early adopter. Oh, yeah, I was big into it. Is it because you had to, like, how did you get to school in high school? I got a phone for my birthday because I, my 12th birthday because it was also an MP3 player before they pretty much existed. Wow, that would have been early. To have like 13 songs on it. It's like an early iPhone. early I

That's pretty cool I got one in 2003 because I wanted one because all my friends had them when I was in year seven and my parents wouldn't get me one because I lived a five-minute walk from school

so I didn't really need one like if I got lost or not lost but like if I was stuck at school you're not just walk home but then my brother bought me a phone because he's cool oh that's really cool

yeah my brother gave me a phone I remember being like yeah everyone's doing it you would have been like 20 yeah I was like 20 when I got my first phone, I reckon. You were 20 when you got your first? Isn't that it's hilarious?

That's so funny. Yeah, I was an, I reckon I was an adult. I was at uni. And you didn't want, didn't want it for a while? I was, yeah, I was like, I... You thought it was a fad? Stubborn sort of guy, just like, why don't see the point?

I don't see the bloody point, mate. But now? No, he can't keep you off that thing. Yeah, sorry. In the US school system, one district reported that some water heaters had to be turned on manually. What a crying shame!

I thought it was going to be reported that some heaters had to be turned on and off again before they fully heated up the room. So they had to be turned on manually, what, one time? Yeah, I guess. And then they had to be fixed. So from then on they had to be... Look, I'm reading the one sentence that I read about it, so... That's a great sentence.

It would be annoying. I enjoyed it as a sentence. It was just like on a list of things that happened. It's like, well, you're really struggling to scrape together a list here, aren't you? Yeah. Well, I had to turn on a heater. So, I mean, I have to that every morning anyway. It's just a heater you turn on when you get to work.

But this time I was doing it in the new millennia. This one's slightly bigger, but not really. The US Naval Observatory, which runs the master clock that keeps the country's official time in America, obviously, gave the date on its website as 1st of January 19100. It did do it Yeah This date error Also occurred on a bunch of other websites around the world

Including a French weather forecasting service Classic French weather What year? What is that year? That's a long time away That's 100 19100 It's 17,000 years away

17,000 years away It will be one day The year 19,100 Whether or not anyone's still on the planet Or it exists We'll be well and surely gone by then But time will still continue continue to exist.

Yeah, well, isn't time made up though? Oh, man. Does time exist when we're not here? Too tired for this conversation. Well, time still passes, but like the fact that it is the year 17th. Well, it's time. The date is just when you've started counting time. The time's kind of been invented by man, right?

So if man's not here to count time, does time really exist? Oh, my God. I think time continues to pass, but you just don't have an anchor for when you started counting. Oh. Greedy disagree. Fair enough. Well, we'll find out in the years 19,100. I don't know what I'm talking about there.

Again, in America, the Y2K bugs seem to turn youth into senior citizens, which is a bit weird. What? There were reports of sexual assault on an 83-year-old woman by an 80-year-old man, and two missing... And two missing youths of ages 83 and 84 were among the flawed reports given by the faulty system, which caused the system to read year 2000 as the year 1900 and interpret the year of birth of the parties involved as their ages. Oh, okay, they were born in 83.

Born in 83 and 80, yeah. That makes sense. Well, it doesn't, but, okay. Yeah, I don't, like, why does this, I don't understand why the system goes. I'm confused. Let's just make it up. Let's choose a thing. This one, out of the whole list I read of things that happened,

this one is an actual, this is a fucking, this is fucked. But I'll read it and we'll see. In Sheffield in the UK, the Y2K bug resulted in incorrect down syndrome. In Sheffield in the UK, the Y2K bug resulted in incorrect Down syndrome tests results being given to 154 pregnant women. Oh, incorrect in which way? In both ways. Oh, that's awful. So it led to two abortions being carried out.

Incorrect. Oh, my God. There was actually genuinely bad stuff that happened. We all laughed, but wow. No, I know. It was sort of like all these silly things. Yeah, most of that sounds so trivial. Fucking hell.

I'd never heard about that. Neither have I. That feels like that should be this story of the whole thing. Yeah, that's probably, I imagine, the worst thing you're going to say. Yeah, that's the worst thing I found by a long way. Real bad. Oh, man. Anyway.

Yeah, pull it back up from there. Yeah, where do you slot that in? It's hard to find a spot for it. You can't end on that. No, I reckon you can. Yeah, you're going to be able to. So, yeah, the question, as you were saying, day before was all the money and panic worth it.

I've already talked about this. There were two camps. I'll read it and then I'll figure it out. Great. There are two camps. The first argues that there were not many problems because of all the work that was done. And then others say that the problem was overstated in the lack of major catastrophe. Catastrophies.

And the lack of major catastrophes meant that it was a waste of time and money. As an example, actually, no, let me. do this and I'll be able to use it. So Dave, as we were talking about before, was all that money worth it or not? Yeah, $300 billion. Somehow there's sort of the two camps. Some saying, yeah, all the money spent meant the problem was fixed and that's why we got through it and other people saying there were no problems and that's because there were no

problems and it was a waste of money. But this, and there's still arguments going either way about that ongoing and pubs around the world. That's not true. but this, I feel like this illustrates something maybe. Countries such as the US and the UK spent billions of dollars, the US spent about half of that 300 billion themselves, combating the Y2K problem,

and they ended up having very few issues. Okay. Alternatively, countries such as Italy, Russia and South Korea had done very little to prepare for Y2K, and they also had very few issues. Oh, so they didn't spend the billions and they still got away with it. Classic Italians.

I think maybe, oh, we'll be right. I think the Russians did spend quite a bit, but like a tiny fraction of what America spent. And I think South Korea and Italy may be spent very little, if not, hardly did anything at all. Couldn't be bothered. Well, maybe they're just like, whatever. Let's just see what happens. Cool. So that's pretty much the end of the Illinois implement there.

I've got, I don't think this. is even really worth it. Here's a couple of things that I found that weren't really about the bug in while I was reading. I kind of like, but... Chuck him in. I'll chuck them in. Let's see. I wouldn't call them fun facts and they're not even about Y2K bug, but they're sort of about Y2K.

The Jerry Springer show had a special to celebrate the Y2K. Celebrate. To celebrate the pending doom. And it was called Y2 lovers. and it was an episode in which people were confronted by both of their lovers. Incredible. That is... And that is an incredibly fun fact.

How dare you preface that with... Oh, it's not a fun fact. They definitely booked the guests and then went, oh, fuck, we should do a Y2K's special. That's a pretty sweet point. Y2 lovers! Great. There's like, oh.

They should have gone Y2K and then found a guy who'd slept with 2,000 women. Oh, yeah. Or just 2Ks. two women named K. Yeah, nice. That would be better because 2000 women's a lot of women. Yeah.

Not a few Gene Simmons. We just got like Y2J, Jerry Springer. Y2 Jerry Springer. I don't have a second Jerry Springer on. You know what? This is 16 years too late. All these wonderful ideas. There's meeting.

Damn it. We should have been there. Should have been there. A Silicon Valley hospital gave its first baby born in the new year, a share of Yahoo! Yahoo stock and five shares of silicon graphics. Holy shit.

Oh wow, is that worth a lot of money now? I don't think so. One share of Yahoo. This is a weird thing to do. Oh. Good on, yeah, hospital. It's worth a lot of money now. Would it be?

Probably. I don't know. I don't know if it was Google. It would have been better if it was Google or Apple. Then you'd be stoked. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, probably. I imagine early days, Yahoo, that's a long time ago. What are they done now?

They're still around. They partnered with Channel 7 in Australia. What are they doing? Nothing. Nothing. Fuck off, Yahoo! They won that court case against Yahoo! Serious, where he was trying to sue them for use of his name.

Are you serious? Sorry, I couldn't commit to that. He really did that. No, he lost. I said Yahoo! I said Yahoo! Oh, dear. Finally, this one is not at all fun, but I found it very interesting, and I did not realize it.

Apparently, 2001 was... actually the start of the new millennium. Oh. Not the year 2000. And the reason why the third millennium started in 2001 is because there was no year zero. Do you know that? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I imagined you would. So there was no year AD, zero, and there was no year zero BC. So it went from AD1, I went from BC, one BC to AD1. So the year zero was skipped Therefore, January 1st Year 1 is defined to be The start of the first century

And the start of the first millennium What are the years called when Never mind But I don't think even those years were around at that stage Were they? Dave, would you know that? Were they going? Well, this is year one.

I don't think it was retroactively done Yeah, I think so Yeah, yeah, they didn't just change it, yeah surely well we're mending on a real hard fact here but it's just like when you say the 15th century is actually the 1400s as a kid that really because there's no

yeah you should have finished on the Jerry Springer one I can do we can cut all this out should we? No no no I'm kidding you're a fucking cunt what such language all right let's finish

I mean that's, so yeah, that was my little report. Thank you so much to Marcus for the suggestion. Good job, Marcus. Feel free to message in Marcus. I wonder, because I don't know if he wanted the topic because he knew a bit about it and wanted to see what we'd talk about it, or if he knew nothing, just wanted to find out. Either way, I apologize.

No, I found that really interesting. I didn't know much about it. It's something that I lived through, but I know, Jess and I were nine at the time, so you don't really know. Passively accepted. And it always seemed like a bit of a job. And I don't know. Was it a joke?

Or did they just make it a joke by spending lots of money on it? Maybe our parents were secretly really scared, but they stayed really strong for our benefit. Yeah. Yeah, I have no memory of any fear at all. And I was, you know, I was like a real person. I was, I was in a double digits. You were super old. It's like odd.

You were nearly, poor. So old. You were nearly. Basically dead. Yeah. You're practically dead. I would have been trying to almost grow beards, I reckon. No, yeah.

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