Do Go On - 263 - Matthew Brady; The Gentleman Bushranger (with Andy Matthews)

Episode Date: November 4, 2020

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnocky and, as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hi, I'm Matt Stewart. Hi, I'm Jess Perkins. So good to be here. We have smoothed that out because that was becoming a bit clumsy. are not too long ago. So it is good that we've got that working a lot nicer.

It used to be really unpredictable, but now it's like we've just got this beautiful structure where we both just know exactly what we're going to say and what order we say it in. And it just like it just flows. Well, let me just say there's another person here who may also know what to say. Please welcome in our special guest.

It's Andy Matthews. Hi, Andy. Hello, thanks so much for having me here on the show about introductions and how well they've gone. And how do you think yours went? As a long-term fan of the podcast, might I say, it's good to see that you haven't got any more comfortable with the concept of introducing yourselves

or explaining what the podcast does. Because as soon as you lose that, for me, you've sold out. Okay, okay. We get some big sponsor in that's like... I think 250 episodes, you're keeping it fresh. I love it. Each one is like the very first time. This is some of the nicest feedback we've ever had.

Thank you so much, Andy. I appreciate that. Andy, listeners will know you from a previous visit to the Do-Go-On podcast show where you talked about some sort of scientist? Sir Isaac Newton. Sir Isaac Newton, that's right. And I think about that all the time when I don't want to. And that thing about him poking himself through the eyehole.

And then I can't stop thinking about it. out of it. I'm like, fuck you, Andy. And then you're like, how do I get this out of my head? I know. I'll get a pointed stick and I'll drive it from my brain. Yeah, it's a common, it's a common thing that a lot of people go through. Yeah. But you're back. It's so good to have you back. You're also a regular on all of the podcasts in this podcast network.

You've been on primates many, many times. You've been on bookcheek. Yes. And you also do your own podcast on the planet broadcast. Network called Two in the Think Tank, where you come up with five sketches with your comedy writing friend, Alas there, Trombay-Bertrchall. Now, see, you bring some of that introductory confidence to the Do Go On podcast, Matt, and you will really be on fire.

Look, if I was in Dave's spot, I reckon I could make it real smooth every time. He leads us in and it sort of walks us right off a cliff at the start every week. So you think it's hard. You don't think I should say, I'm here with Matt and Jesse. You want me to speak for you. Is that what you'd like me to do? I'm here with Matt. he's a good guy and here with Jess.

She's a great stand-up comedian, radio host. Anyway, let's start the show. Is that what you want? That's better. That would be better. We could take it out of our hands as much as possible. Put that up. I love that.

I gave Jess a couple of credits and I said Matt is a good guy. Sorry about that. Matt, you're also a good comedian. Honestly, that's my number one priority in life is to be a good guy. All that other stuff is just cream on the cake. Yeah, that's right. Or in the cake. Cream goes in the cake, doesn't it?

Oh, I think, dog. We don't know. Yeah, you make weird stuff. You have wrong orders with things. They put him cream in a cake. Anyway, Andy is, so his podcast on The Think Tank also is a live performing comedy duo with Alice Trombo Virtual. And you put together a live show which is streaming on SOS Presents.

Is that right, Andy? SOS Presents. You can go along and get it. You can get our acclaimed, critically acclaimed show from the comedy festival last year, Magma. And if you're one of the enormous sector of the online community, who is just crying out for a comedy engineering presentation about the world building potential of liquid hot magma, then this is, I've got to say, this is the show for you.

We encourage you to watch it. It is, I think, funny. And, you know, if I think it's funny, that means it might be pretty good. It is. Well, I saw it live at the Comedy Festival and it was very, very funny. And it was one of those almost annoying shows

where everyone is talking about it and no one's talking about my show. And you actually, I remember you stood up in the audience and you said, all right, we get it. You've got a show called Magma. Why don't you talk about my show? And you said, Matt, you're right. We dedicated the rest, the remaining 59 minutes of the hour show.

He jumped in early, didn't I? Can I just say that? I also saw the show last year with Jess. We went along one night and saw it was the funniest show I saw last year, and I also saw Matt's show. Oh, my God. This is getting uncomfortable. Maybe last year when you directed my show, Dave?

Look, I'm not that. Yes, and we paid him handsomely to ensure that your show wasn't better than ours. So it's good to see you. We got their money to. Well, yes, I saw the show at the Comedy Festival, and then Andy Nell did a couple of sort of encore performances at the Butterfly Club later in the year, which I bought tickets to, and I missed it because I got the time wrong in my own head.

And so by the time I realised the show was starting, I hadn't left my house yet. So look, they got my money and sort of my financial support, but definitely not my laugh in the crowd that night. But I've since watched it again on SOS Presents. And that is the beauty of the stream. We are just hovering, buddy, out of the jet. The beautiful stream is

It doesn't matter if you realize that the show's about to start when you're still at home Because that's perfect Just press play You could be any moment of the day In fact it would be a nightmare If you showed up at the butterfly club Only to then realize

That you were supposed to be watching it at home But even then you could probably do it over your phone Yeah And just sit outside the butterfly club In an alleyway I highly recommend people Check that out and there'll be a link in the show notes, which we know everyone reads.

So click on that and you can go all the way there. And while you're there, you can also buy tickets to our upcoming live streams. We're doing four live streams. I can't remember too many of the details of them, but I think they start sometime in November and then sometime in December. But the details will be in the show notes there. Let me just take over there, Matt. Just take some confusion out of the first one is on the 22nd of November.

Melbourne time, but we are doing four different, so it's four weekly shows and they're all at different times because this is a world tour. So there's some that cater to every single time zone. All four of them. But you can also, uh... We're going to cover all four time zones. We're that good. Yeah.

Whichever of the four hemispheres you live in, we'll cater to you. Easy peasy. Don't worry about it. But like Andy show, you can also catch up online. So even if you're not awake at the 3am 1, just watch the next day. you'll be right. Yeah, it's fine. And yeah, I love this world tour concept.

When I heard about it, I thought that's really bloody good. That means a lot, Andy. Thank you. And I'm sorry if anyone heard some jingling, some little jingle bells in the background of that excellent explanation. I was trying to chase the cat out of the room. And she was being very evasive. They like that, aren't they?

Plus the word trying, like he didn't succeed. Oh, no, I didn't. In the end, she went into a different room, and I just had to lock her in there. Now, Andy, you're not only dropped by to plug your sweet comedy show, which we would have done anyway. It's just a coincidence you were here. The cat is meowing really loudly trying to get out of that room.

You just carry on with that introduction. Just keep it rolling. All right, I'll build it up. I'll keep building it until you sit back. in front of that microphone. So we're, and he's not only here to plug his fantastic comedy show Magma with Alcet Trombo, Bertrandall. He's also here, and we're so lucky to have him back here, he's here to tell us a story

about something. Just Dave and I don't know what it is. And this is how the show normally works. One of the three of us, in this case, one of the four of us, research is a topic. And they bring the research they committed to paper, usually, or in some cases, or, in some cases, onto the screen of their computer, and then they'll read out that report back to us, because they've just lathered themselves up in the knowledge of this topic. You've done so well.

And this week, Andy, is going to be terrible doing this topic today, and we always start the topic with a question. Andy, what is your question today? My question to you is, if you had to be held up by an 18th century Bush Ranger, oh, wait, that should be 19th century. God. If you had to be held up. Sorry, I've already started thinking about my favourite 18th century.

Sorry. Yeah, sorry. Give me a second here to recalibate. If you had to be held up by a 19th century bush ranger, who would be the best one to get? Oh. Oh, it's got to have gentleman in his name. It was a gentleman Dan or something?

Gentleman Dan would be my choice, yeah. Because he was known for giving people money. Yeah, yeah, that's right. He would be like, well, I'm a bush ranger. Do you want a mansion? Imagine here you go. They called him gentlemen down to his face, but behind the scenes,

they called him dumb-ass dad. I don't know. I mean, we've done Ned Kelly before, but he was 18th century, wasn't he? Who else was there? He was also 19th century. So 19th century is the 1800s. Yeah, right.

This is what trip me up. I always get confused with Australian colonial history. The 1700s is when, the British came, is it? Yeah, that's right. So it was 1800s, that's right. Everything happened in the late 1800s in terms of the stuff we learn in primary school about the thousands of years of Australian history.

We learn about 20 years in the 1800s where Burke and Will set off. Ned Kelly was around. Correct. There was some sort of boat stuff as well. The only one other name that comes in mind is Captain Moonlight. Is that one? Yeah. He is one, I believe, but that is not correct.

Matt was absolutely on the money with the word gentleman. Oh, really? We are talking today about Matthew Brady gentleman bush ranger. Oh, so incredible instincts. Oh, wow. My alternative title for this episode was Matthew Brady, Tasmanian Bush Ranger, which is very exciting to me as a Tasmanian. And that's what drew me unto him.

but I thought he was also known as the gentleman bush ranger and that has a certain appeal. Yeah, I like that. That's where we're going today. He robs you up and then he shines your shoes and gives you a breath mint or something. Yeah, yeah. I think you're thinking of a sort of a servant or possibly an Uber driver.

I've matched up Uber drivers and servants there. I'm thinking of Niles from the Nanny. Yes. All right. So, shall we get into it? Yeah, I'm excited. This sounds great. Here we go.

Matthew Brady, also known as Matthew Brady, was born in Manchester in around 1798 to Irish parents. So he would have considered himself Irish. I think that, you know, that was the time when, you know, you were Irish from Irish stock. Yeah. He would have thought of himself as an Irishman. Matt still tries to claim it. So, no surprises.

Yeah, I'm more than 50% Irish. I'm like, yeah, both sides of my family are Irish, but, you know, we've been here for five generations. I'm like, yeah, I'm basically Irish. Yeah, I can river dance. I did think of myself that way until I met an Irish person traveling in Europe, and I said that, and she told me to fuck off. Yeah.

I have not, I've stopped thinking of myself that way since she's like, no, you're not. Yeah. She's like, you get that. She said she gets it all the time. Yeah. And it's annoying. And I said, fair enough, you're totally right. You're absolutely right.

You're absolutely right. I still think of myself as a homo erectus. Right, yeah. I wish I'd chosen a thing that didn't have erect in the name. All the human ancestors. You went for homo erectus. You may as well have just said, I've got a stiffy, you know? You idiot.

You're right, I should have said that. That's why I was so good. You think of yourself as gentleman stiffy. Yeah. The stiff bush rainbow. As a young man, Matthew Brady or Brady, the Bredester, was a groom for the horses of a wealthy family. By which I assume he was a groom. Yeah, he married them.

I've actually got that written down as the joke here that I was about to do, by which I assume he was getting married to the horses. We're on the same page, Jess. Yeah, I like that. He apparently had a good sense of humour and he was well-spoken and wrote a good hand. So you can see what the horses saw in him. He wrote a good hand. Wrote a good hand, yeah.

That's what I look for in a groom. Sense of humour, well-spoken, writes a good hand. A good hand. Okay, I don't know what it means. Not so good with any of the other words, but if you wanted the word hand written. God. That's why he specialises in calligraphy with those letters.

Or any combination. And back in the day, you know, you could make a career of that. It was a simpler time. Especially in the horse industry, because that's what they measure their height in. Yes. So that would come up a bit. Yep.

How tall is your wife? Well, forehand. Let me write it out. That's a short horse. I like him dating. The Shetland wife. He's married to a pony. Come on, mate.

You keep telling us your marital a horse. Are you married to a pony, to be honest? Come on. And he was apparently very well liked by the family that he worked for until he turned to crime. And there are different versions of what his actual crime was. One version has it. He stole a basket, a furkin of butter,

a 12-pound filch of bacon, 30 pounds of sugar, and two of rice. The total value of which goods was five shilling. Can you convert that all to furkins, please? Yeah. Just not familiar with much. Geez, there's a couple of words there that don't exist anymore that should. Firkins.

What was the other one? Pounds. A firkin of butter and a 12-pound filch of bacon. Filch. Beautiful word. A beautiful word. It is. It's on the borderline of not being beautiful.

Yeah. But it just stays just on the safe side. You flip a vowel around there and, you know, It really turns a nasty corner. Fulch. You know? Not good. Exactly.

Yes. Exactly. And thank you. Now, so that's, and the recipients of all of this stolen goods were apparently two 19-year-old girls, both single of the town. Now, that's one version. Okay. And the other version is that he committed for forgery. So, you know, two slightly different stories,

perhaps, unless he forged the bacon. Yeah. He was really ham. It's right. It wasn't a filter bacon at all. It was a furkin of ham. Now, one of those stories I got from the website of a cider company and the other one I got from his official convict transfer for a record.

And I'll leave it up to you to decide which was which and which is more plausible. Well, the cider company, obviously. Obviously the cider company. Now, this was in the era of convict transportation. So he was caught for this crime, and he was sentenced to the standard term of seven to ten years. So England jails at the time were just filthy and overcrowded. And also, handily enough,

they had a need for workers in the, new colony of Australia. And so they started this campaign of transporting convicts, which started in 1788, with the first fleet, which is, you know, famous in Australia. We had the bicentennial in 1988. And is Australia Day on the day of the arrival of the first fleet, or is it on the day of...

Yeah, isn't it? The first day, the first fleet drove into Botany Bay. They drove up. They drove in. Am I doing back there? Am I doing back there? Plenty of road. Should have got me to do it, eh? Should have got me to do it.

Oh, Jess, the best parker in the group. Such a good park. I'll never forget that park in London. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It could not have been better. Millimeter. Yeah.

It was like you've been driving big rigged your whole life. I don't believe it. There was not a furkin in it. You absolutely now. They call you Furken-Birkins. So over the next 80 years, there would be 160,000 convicts transported in total to Australia. And this was all by boat, obviously.

And these are voyages. The voyage of the first fleet took 250 days to get from England to Australia. But he was transported not to Botany Bay, but to Van Diemen's land in 1820, all now known as Tasmania. And Tasmania at this time had been undergoing invasion by British settlers for about 20 years.

So to put that into some context, before the colonisation of Australia, there were maybe around 15,000 Palawa people. That's the indigenous Tasmanians. And then they were subject to an extremely brutal armed genocide over the next century and they're still trying to reassert their culture.

I would recommend, and I'm not in any way qualified to do justice to that story because we are not taught anything about that in school, or at least I wasn't. But I'd recommend that you listen to a podcast called Frontier War Stories by Bo Spirum and he has an episode

about the Aboriginal Resistance in Tasmania. And maybe we'll put a link to that in the show notes. We'll put a link to that in the show notes. for sure. What a bloody link to it, mate. Yeah. I listen to that episode and he talks to an academic and historian. And it's really interesting.

And it taught me a huge amount that I had no idea about. And I felt like a real idiot. But it was great to know. I wonder how the kids are doing now. Like, it was so inadequate what we got taught about Australian history. Oh, man. I wonder if it's changed much. I tell you, the main thing that I learned was that Captain James Cook was

considered really good to his men. That's what I learned. So that's relevant. That seems pretty relevant, doesn't it? Yeah. Just a good guy. Just a real hero. I thought, I genuinely thought that until about two years ago.

Yeah. What an idiot. Well, I mean, you thought that from a young age. It's what course you're going to keep believing it. I believe until recently that the bruises on bananas were the bits that were the best for you. I believe that well into. old hood. I was throwing away the rest. I looked it up and the first fleet arrived

it says on the 20th of January. So I don't know where the 26th comes from. Is that the day that they first hoisted a flag? Is that possibly something like that? Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Well, no wonder it's such a proud day for us as Australia. Whatever happened that day. Yeah. God, we love it. Yeah. And we, um,

really love to get drunk and wear flags about it, whatever it is. So Brady was sent to the Port Arthur Prison initially, which international, and this is a, you know, not an exactly jolly start to the episode, but people internationally might know about Port Arthur because in later years it became a tourist attraction, and in 1996 there was a lone gunman massacre there, which killed 35 people.

And that was what led to Australia, basically having the gun laws. that it does and banning all sorts of different guns. And I've got to say, it's worked out fine. Yeah. I haven't needed a gun recently. That's true. And that was a conservative government in Australia who brought that in at the time,

which is maybe the only way it was going to happen somehow. You know what? It's kind of true. Because if they hadn't been in power, they would have fought it. Yeah. They would have played it for politics, probably. Yeah.

Which is what oppositions. Like, maybe back then it, I don't know, am I being nostalgic when I think that oppositions didn't necessarily block everything back in the day? I think I am. That's probably always been like it is now, and politics has always been played, but there wasn't this noble time. I think Goff Whitlam might disagree with you, Matt. Sorry? I think Goff Whitlam might take issue with you on that.

Don't remember any kind of conflict, really, at all. It was just sort of friendship and handshakes most of the time. It was basically one party back then. Yeah, and, you know, they really meant party. Oh, wow. So if you're unlucky, you're sent to the island of Australia, right? And if you're really unlucky, you're sent from there to the island of Tasmania. And if you cause too much trouble there, they send you to a tiny island on the west coast

in Macquarie Harbour called Sarah Island, right? And that's where, you know, during the day, this is on the west coast. Even today, the west coast of Tasmania is incredible. isolated, right? It gets what it's called the roaring 40s winds, which are, it has some of the freshest air in the world because there are just winds that have been accelerating the entire way across the Atlantic Ocean until they get to the coast of Australia from South America. And it's extremely wild and extremely mountainous and rugged and very, very wet. And that's where we get hew and pine wood from. There's no about it.

about Hew and Pine? You guys know about Hugh and Pine? I've heard of the Hew and Valley. Is that something? Hewain Valley? Yeah, it's very relevant. Yes, that's where you get some of the Hugh and Pine. Makes sense. That adds up for sure. Is this the kind of area you would have done a trek on as a teenager for some sort of a charity or something? That feels like something you would have done. Absolutely right. This is right up that particular national park. Yes. That sort of, there's about a third of Tasmania is taken up with the Southwest National Park. which is one of the biggest untouched rainforests in Australia. And yeah, hew and pine grows there.

It grows incredibly slowly, right? Thousands and thousands of year old trees. But it also has a natural oil in it, which means that it never rots. Wow. And it makes it the perfect material for making ships for, so they were getting this timber. And it smells really nice as well.

So you get a really nice smelling boat, which I think would. be very relevant after several months. Yeah. And it only takes thousands of years to grow it. That's great. Exactly. Yeah.

And so they decimated it, really. Can't wait to lop those down. I'll plant a seed. It'll be right. It's now illegal to cut down any hue and pine trees in Tasmania. But they still find old logs because it just never rots.

They find old logs like, buried in the dirt. Amazing. And they dig them up. Wow. They use that. So it could have been just lying there for hundreds of years and it's still good. Wow.

It never goes off. That's fascinating. Love that mini wood report in the middle of this report. Yeah. Wow. This is the whole reason for this report so that I would get to talk about Hugh and Pond. You've spotted me there. But you also mentioned a place called Sarah Island.

Sarah Island. Yes. Thank you for getting me back on track. So Sarah Island. It's not a very interesting name for an island. But does she ever rot? Well, I think there were a few rotters there. Sorry, that's terrible.

That's such a bad. Yuck. Look, it's quite a nice bland name for an island. But this had a reputation is basically the worst penal colony in Australia. Wow. You did not want to end up there. If you kept trying to escape from Port Arthur, they sent you there. And Brady was trying to escape.

So they sent him there. But if you tried to escape from Sarah Island, which wasn't easy because it was in the middle of this harbour, you know, and surrounded by this massive forest that you wouldn't be able to get through even if you got to shore, if you tried to escape from Sarah Island, you were, and I quote, the irreclaimables were imprisoned on a strip of rock called Pilot Island, to which they were forced to wade through the surf,

carrying provisions upon their backs to see them through their turn. and even the cells carved out for them in the rocks. They were not protected from the drenching spray when the gales blew in from the ocean. Right? So he was on an island, off an island, off an island, off an island. Wow. If they could have found a smaller island to send you to,

off-pilot island, I'm sure they would have. Babushka. Babushka islands. Babushka islands. Babushka prisons. Are they, why, is he, he, he, doesn't sound like he's the worst of the worst, though. Sounds like he's a likable guy.

He was a likable guy. And when he got to Sarah Island, they were like, this guy, he's such a hard worker. I think he's a good bloke. But what he was really always busy doing was trying to work out a way to escape. So he was very motivated to do that. But, like, you know, people liked him. But, yes, he wanted out.

He did do, like, I forget that he did a pretty bad crime of maybe stealing a small picnic basket. or forging the word hamper. Yeah. It's a Chrisco hamper that he gave to two 19-year-olds. That's right. What a monster. So it's said to be impossible to escape from this island.

And it was from this penitentiary that Brady and 14 others made their escape on the 7th of June 1824. So the group stole a boat, right? they basically, as the soldiers were coming ashore in a boat, I think the ships, the prison surgeon and some soldiers were coming ashore on a little boat and they basically charged the boat, pushed the soldiers into the water, okay, so that their muskets got wet, I guess, their guns got wet. They got wet as well. And then they kidnapped the surgeon.

So some of them kidnapped the surgeon. and they were going to flog him, give him a damn good flogging. But he'd been really kind to Brady on the island. So Brady stopped them from basically beating up this surgeon. And this is apparently when he became the leader of the gang. Flog him? It's an interesting phrase because I thought you meant sell him. You know, flog him off.

But you meant flog him, as in hit him. No, no, no. I meant they were going to sell him off. And Brady said, no, no, no, he's been good to me. I'll keep him on as my private surgeon. No, they were going to beat him. Yeah, right. And then they didn't.

And this is back in the days where you're talking about soldiers. They're like, you know, they're like little toy soldiers with big tall hats and bright red jackets. And they're kind of ridiculous. They feel like they'd be easy to push over. Yeah. Yeah, very top heavy because of those tall hats. I don't know what these ones would have looked like. I think they would have been pretty rough themselves as well.

Like it's really hard to get to. They can't grow their own provisions or anything there. It all has to be resupplied by sea to boats to this prison. So every, like, you know, and it's all just guys out there. Everyone would be filthy. Everyone would stink. It would just be, I think, it just horrible. Just horrible.

So I also read that Brady's size and strength made him the undisputed leader of the gang. Oh, wow. And I wanted to know how tall he was. But they have this on his transportation record. Would you like to guess how tall Brady was? He's so intimidatingly tall. I'd guess like, what, six foot five or something? Yeah, close.

I think back then, they were shorter back then. So I'm going to say five foot six. Really close. Five foot five and a half. Bigger than that guy. I would have been the top dog on this ship. You would? Good Lord, he's a giant.

Sit down, boys. And then I was like, how tall must everyone else have been? I looked it up and the average height of men born in 1800 in England was 5 foot 5. Yeah, right. So he had a half an inch on them, maybe. Wow. But maybe he was standing on a box or something like that.

He was wearing those lift shoes. Yeah. He was on platform shoes. What do you call that? A Caribbean heel or something? What do they call it? Cuban heel? Just the Cuban heels.

Yeah. Though I do like Caribbean heel. That's exotic. Yeah. Yeah. It does. It is good. They've got steel drums inside of them.

Very good. If you want to know a bit more about him, apparently he had some tattoos. He had a man and woman on his left arm. And he had the letters TB and a fish on his right arm. Oh. So this was all on his transport. record, which I, you know, and before they had fingerprints, right, I was interesting

in that, it was like, oh, wow, like before you used fingerprints, having tattoos would be, have been like the only way to identify someone because you didn't have photography or anything like that. Wow. And if I was a criminal, I would just simply not get tattoos or possibly draw them on in a pin. Change them all the time. Or get some of those ones that you put on with a sponge at the show. They were around.

Two weeks later they're gone. Photography hadn't been invented, but sponge on tattoos had. At the time, sponge on tattoo technology was incredibly advanced. And it was one of the main forms of storytelling. They didn't have printing, but they had sponge on tattoos. So people were like, see this? I got this last week at the Royal Melbourne show. Wow.

Gather around, everyone. It's a duck on a skateboard. Fingerprints weren't used until 1910 in a court case. Wow. In America. Yeah. 1910, wow. That's late, isn't it?

Yeah. Later than I would have thought, yeah. I would have thought Sherlock Holmes would be onto that. Yeah. So if you wanted to escape from Macquarie Island, the way to do it was by boat, okay, from Macquarie Harbour. Otherwise, you had to go inland from the west coast, through the mountains and the forest, and that's really, really rough trot.

that is what Alexander Pearce attempted to do twice. Have you ever heard of Alexander Pierce? No, no the name. Yeah? You may also know him as the cannibal convict? No. No? He escaped from Sarah Island twice

and both times ate his fellow escapies to stay alive. The first time they recaptured him and he said he did. he'd eaten them and they assumed he was just saying that to cover for them having escaped into the bush but the second time they caught him he still had their bits of their bones and fingers and stuff on him and he said he'd eaten them and that time they believed him. Apparently what's wrong with our primary schools? They're not teaching us about the cannibal convict. This is a real gap. What else are they holding back from us? We learn about, don't worry, we

learn about the cannibal convict in Tasmania pretty early on. They say, don't tell the mainlanders, but we eat people down here. Apparently the second time they caught him, not only did he have bones and flesh of his fellow escapies on him, he still also had some of the food that they'd taken. So he'd started eating them pre-rubing out of food. Yeah, it wasn't a desperation. thing for him, was it? It started to look a bit, sush.

He got a taste for it. Yeah. I'm saving that chicken for later. Yep. Some of the foods are perishable, cannibal. Yep. No, I'm going to save that yogurt for later. I'm going to eat this man here first.

He's got 80 cans of soup and baked beans. I'm not a big fan of soup. Don't have a can opener. What are you going to do? But Brady, I reckon there's a whole episode, by the way, in Alexander. Peter Pierce. I know I've spoiled it for you, but there's a lot, there's a lot there's a lot there. Great. Good tip. Yucky bloke. Don't know if you do a lot of yucky stuff. I didn't actually start with this topic.

I started with a different topic, which was about a mysterious unsolved murder in Dalesford that I'd read about in a book while I was in an Airbnb, just like on the last page of a book, it mentioned this thing and I got a bit obsessed with researching. I thought, this is so fascinating. And the lead doctor who investigated it was called Dr. Doolittle. And I thought, well, that's funny. That's already, that's gold. That's half an hour of laughs right there. The more I read about it, the more I was like,

oh, no, this is just a murder, a woman who was very horribly murdered that started to make me depressed. So anyway, let's just laugh about the idea of a doctor who can speak to animals doing the post-mortem and move on. I'll have to go into any of the other detail. So, but anyway, they escaped by boat,

and nine days later, they land in the Derwent, which is the site of Hobart. Bart Town, which is the capital of the, you know, the Tasmanian colony. And at once they set about an organised plan of bush ranging. Brady laid down the rules for his gang. They must neither injure the defenseless nor molest females, but could kill traitors, revenge, injuries, and take away anything that was likely to prove useful to them.

Okay. I'm basing a lot of this on a book, by the way, from 1900, called The History of Australian Bush Ranging Volume 1 by Charles White. And you can find that on, that's on like Project Gutenberg. But that has lots of detail about all of these early bush ranges. He does sound like a gentleman so far. Yeah, he's, you know, he's laying down some rules. And they would normally, those sort of rules,

commonly bushrangers wouldn't be following that kind of gentlemanly code. That's pretty unlikely. Like, you know, you've already been transported. You're feeling probably pretty hard done by the community. And, you know, some of them, they weren't all petty criminals. of them were much rougher and more unpleasant. And if they weren't rough and unpleasant, they probably were pretty rough and unpleasant after they'd spent, you know,

all this time in the prison. There wasn't much focus on reform in the prison system at the time. Yeah, I mean, it certainly feels like if someone keeps trying to escape, maybe sit down and have a chat to them. Yeah. You know? What are you really running from? Yeah, what's up?

Is it the prison? What is your dad like, you know? Yeah. Can we provide some activities here for you to make you stay? Yeah. more palatable. What kind of games you like? You like card games?

I get your pack of cards. There's a sign-up sheet for the table tennis. I haven't seen around there once. You haven't come to happy hour. You know, it's a great time to social art. You've got to put in. Goodness. This is the time at which the governor, no, I want you to have fun, guys.

No, no, no. I'm not going to. But you're right to press on, yeah. Yeah. This is the time the governor, the governor of the Tasmanian colony at this time was this guy called George Arthur, Sir George Arthur. He seems, he's very unpleasant man. Look up his career.

He's involved in a lot of really bad stuff in a lot of different British colonies. And he was a real, real hard-ass, very interested in seeing convicts beaten, very interested in seeing convicts hung. So at the point, at the time he had arrived in 1820, no convicts had ever been hung. When you say hung, you mean hanged, right?

Or are you talking about having, a big chop. Is that what you mean? Very interesting seeing these. He was very into penile augmentation. Penile colonies. Is that where that comes from? He had basically, he'd misread the letter on the posting. He thought, this is hardly a penile colony at all.

Is it hanged? Hanged. He liked seeing convicts hanged. I think that's one of those ones that my dad would always correct me. on as a kid. Yeah. I think hanged is correct, but it feels wrong. So you say whatever's comfortable, I reckon.

It's also now that I'm saying out loud, weird that my dad had to correct me on that often enough as a kid. Once a week. By the time he left eight years later, 256 convicts had been hanged. So he was pretty keen on that. And about a week after their escape, Governor Arthur issued the following proclamation. The lieutenant governor feels it necessary to announce that the party of prisoners who escape from Macquarie Harbour have again passed into the interior. His honour begs the most earnest manner in the most earnest manner to call upon all settlers in their respective districts to enter into increased zeal and determination into measures for the apprehension of these robbers.

to the most common understanding, not laboring under the miserable depression of personal danger means will be presented after a robbery has been committed of tracing the movements of the depreditors and so on. He goes on and on and on and on, this message that he's sending out, basically saying,

these guys are real bad and we want to get them and there will be a reward for you. I don't know how he got this message out. I guess he sent out horse riders to different groups or something like that. At this time, they're about... I have to recall a seven-minute message off the hour. In summary, we don't mind if you kill them.

Yeah, they'd go into about a month of rehearsals beforehand. There was our understudies just in case people got sick. Yeah, exactly. So pretty soon the Brady gang, they steal some guns from a retired military officer but he did manage to capture some of them and they were immediately placed on trial and hanged so about four of them I think got caught and hanged straight away but the others got away and the settlers were immediately

very freaked out because they're convict servants so they all this is the other thing the convicts aren't all in the prisons right they're sent out to all different all the different houses and properties around Tasmania as basically, you know, servant labour. They'd be sent out with a few soldiers to keep an eye on them, but they're chained up and they're made to, you know,

quarry rock and build buildings and that sort of thing. But they're not free, and they definitely don't like being treated in this way. So all the settlers are terrified that this gang is going to show up and all their convicts are going to turn against them and kill them. And indeed, this more or less happens. Whenever Brady shows up at a property, the convicts are desperate to join his gang. And even those who didn't join them were still helping them

by like passing on information, giving them supplies and that sort of thing. So all the population of convicts are basically on their side. There's about 5,000 settlers and probably more convicts on the island. than there are settled. Is it? So you were saying before, I always sort of believed that idea that a lot of the convicts were in trouble

for stealing a loaf of bread. That's sort of the stereotype. But you reckon it's a bigger mix than that? There are some violent criminals that were sent down as well. Yeah, it was this kind of, it was this mandatory thing where if you got a second sentence, so it's sort of like mandatory sentencing. If you were arrested and sentenced more than once,

you were automatically transported. And I think in that it like scooped up people who'd just done one little thing and also, you know, or done two minor things, but also if you'd done much more unpleasant things, it was the next step down from hanging, basically. So if they didn't give you capital punishment,

you'd get transportation. So if you'd murdered someone and then a little while later forgotten to pay for some bread, out you go. They'd let you go on the murder, but they say, now you don't do anything else again. You be on your best behaviour. We will be watching you. And then you steal the bread and they say,

we are really disappointed in you. Yeah, and that's worse. That's worse to hear, isn't it? Oh, just transport me for life. Just hang me. Yeah, so you've got all these hardened prisoners around you all the time, right? And you don't want hardened prisoners. You want softened.

Oh, you want soft. You want some moisturiser, yeah. You, exactly. Yes. beautiful, smooth prisoners. And a lot of them, new Brady, or he's going from Port Arthur. One example is that they're outranging in the bush, right,

as they do. And they come across a guy that they know working on a farm. And he says, oh, great. So he's a convict. He's out working in the field or whatever. He says, great, I'm just about to take dinner to the soldiers. And if you come in after me, they'll all be sitting down with their guns in the corner

and then you can just hold them up and rob them. and I'll run away with you. And they absolutely do exactly that. Tie up all the soldiers, steal everything that's not nailed down, and this guy runs away and joins their gang. Apparently the word is that two weeks later, some settlers caught up with that guy

when he was asleep under a tree and just shot him in the head before he had a chance to run away or anything like that. So the consequences are pretty dire if you caught as well. But everyone's so desperate to get away. It doesn't seem like it, you know, it seems worth the risk to them. But the gang is getting braver and braver, right? They're robbing, they're getting all the stuff that they need,

robbing, stealing food, stealing clothes, that sort of thing. And they get braver and braver. And after a while, Brady gets to be a bit of a larrican, a bit of an Aussie larrican. And Governor Arthur puts out a notice saying, it has occasioned the lieutenant governor much concern that the continued outrages of the two prisoners, Macabe and Brady, so McCabe is another member of the gang,

have led to the death of another settler. I'll tell you about that a bit more later on. His honour has directed the reward of 25 pounds shall be given for the apprehension of either of these men and that any prisoner giving such information may directly lead to their apprehension may receive a ticket of leave. So ticket of leave basically means that your part,

immediately from imprisonment and you can go and become a free settler. Wow. Get your own farm, you know, leave your life. And three days after he put that out there, this notice had been circulated, Brady nails his own notice to the door of the Royal Oak Inn at Cross March. Dated, Mountain Home, April 20th, 1825. It has caused Matthew Brady much concerned that such a person known as

Sir George Arthur is at large. Twenty gallons of rum will be given to any person that will deliver his person unto me. I also cautioned John Priest that I will hang him for his ill-treatment of Mrs. Blackwell at Newtown. M. Brady. So the governor puts out a notice

for a reward for the capture of Brady and Brady puts out his own reward for the capture of the governor. A bit of a classic, you know. They said he had a good hand. Yeah. Beautifully written. Beautiful. Oh, that's fantastic.

Yeah, yeah. And so you've noticed in there he also was threatening some guy who had mistreated a woman in there. The other thing about Brady was that, you know, in the context of the time, not a total creep to women, right? He seemed pretty good. Here's another quote. Yet it cannot be said that the gang was brutal or even savage. And they were most scrupulous in their treatment.

of females. As even the Hobart town papers acknowledged, one man who had asked a servant girl for a kiss, one gang member who had asked a servant girl for a kiss, was at once knocked down by their leader. And one of the plundered settlers afterwards said that Brady's first word was, are there any ladies in the house? And receiving a reply in the affirmative, he said, then tell them to get up and let them dress themselves and go into one room and no one shall molest them. So he's, you know, He's keeping them looking after women. Yeah. Which is good.

And so McCabe, who was the other prisoner who was mentioned in the notice from the governor, he apparently offered violence to a woman. So Brady shot him through the hand, disarmed and thrashed him, and kicked him out of the gang. And McCabe then began robbing by himself, and he was very quickly caught and hanged. Oh, wow. So, yeah.

Of course, we have to ask who started that story. So it could, probably not McCabe. Probably didn't put that story about. So it was either the lady, in which case we could maybe believe it, or it was probably Brady himself. So we don't know. Like, you know, they're probably all self-mythologising. Yeah.

To a certain extent, these guys. And some of these stories might be totally made up. But it's nice to think that at least someone in history wasn't a creep to women, isn't it? Isn't it nice to just imagine this one? Even the fact that he thought, even if he had made it up, even the fact that he thought that it was a positive thing to make up is a positive in itself.

Yeah. There you go. That's progress. That's how he wants to be remembered as not a creep to women. The fact that he was capable of imagining not being a creep. Yeah. Very promising. Such a huge step.

Brady is most famous perhaps for his capture of Sorrel Jail and the release of the prisoners. So he and seven of his men attacked a house at Pittwater, and it's great reading all of the names of all these places that were just places I would just drive past. I've been through Sorrell. I've been there. They've got two good op shops and they got an ice cream shop.

We used to get ice cream there all the time. So good. Yeah. So they attacked a house at Pitwater, imprisoning the owner and his servants. And they decided to stay the night, right? So they're that confident. And then it was a bit wet the next day, so they decided to stay the next day as well. And then in the evening, two visitors arrived.

Mr. Walter Barthoon and Captain Bunster. And Brady rose, Captain Bunster, Captain Bunster. Also, Walter Bethune is amazing. Incredible. Walter Bethune and Captain Bunster. And Brady rose to the occasion. He called a groom to take their horses, to marry them, obviously. And conducted the men inside, assured them that there was nothing to fear and ordered dinner for them.

So he's now got the servants at the house. Just get overreeds, that's good. Wow. Do you reckon they both had an order from the same place? He was like, you can go from the pizza place and you can get chicken. Yeah, you get whatever you want. I'll do a couple of different orders if you like. No worries.

Like it was just nothing to him. He was like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two delivery fees? I don't care. I don't care. Yeah, no worries. Whatever you like.

Got half and half pizza. That's an extra $1.50. It doesn't mean anything to me. No problem. Because I want you to be happy. Andy, you've just made me instantly hungry for pizza. Half and I don't know. You didn't even describe any toppings at all.

But just the idea of half and half pizza made my mouth water. A pizza that has two halves and have my attention. that's a whole pizza. Two halves, that's a whole pizza. So they're all having dinner, right? And he's just chatting, entertaining people around the dinner table. And eventually he gets bored, right?

The conversation apparently flagged. So Brady decides that to enliven things, he's going to go and capture the Sorrel jail. So he tells his guests, and now we're going to go and capture the Sorrel jail. So he takes all the 18 prisoners with him to the town at about 10 o'clock at night. And they reach the jail,

most opportunely, as the soldiers had been out in the rain all day looking for the bush rangers. And they were just cleaning their guns. So there was a rush. The wet guns were easily seized. The inmates of the jail were freed. The soldiers and the pit water contingent took their place in the cells. And then they propped up a log against the door

and dressed it up to look like a soldier and headed off into the hill. They dressed up a log. Dressed up a log to look like a soldier. Well, you know, with that long hat, you know, it's a very... And the log was hewn pine, so it was never going to drop its yard. So it's... That's right. It's still sitting there to this day.

Nobody's been in. Nobody's looked into this. And it smells great as well. That would be the real... That guard smells amazing. Yeah, that's the giveaway, because everyone else smells like absolute shit. Now, obviously, this gets the attention of the governor, and he doubles the reward. And basically, it's now a...

for young and old. Okay. Anyone in the colony can enroll themselves as a special constable now, apparently, whatever that means. Cool. You can basically declare yourself a cop.

Do you? Do you think they send you like a little sheriff's badge? I also send you a badge. Maybe a hat? Yeah, that would be cool. Maybe a sticker. Maybe it's just an online e-certificate or something like.

Yeah. All right. And there are, now, and he's got soldiers hiding out in wagons and they're basically driving them along through like very vulnerable bush tracks and hoping that they'll get attacked by Brady and they'll be able to catch him

but Brady also Brady has informants everywhere so he knows and he's always one step ahead there is a story that eventually he does get caught after he stays overnight at a friend's cabin right and the friend basically betrays him yes but the story is that the prisoners the guy friend goes and get some soldiers

The soldiers come and they get him while he's asleep and they tie him up. And then they go to sleep. And when they wake up in the morning, he's used the fire in the cabin to burn through his ropes. And there's just burned ropes there and he's escaped. He burned through the ropes. People never think of that. I was trying to cut him. Well, they did.

It seems crazy, right? Because you've got the ropes there on your hands or whatever. You probably got to get your hands down into the fire. That's for long. Better than being hung or hands. It is better than that, yeah. Nothing wrong with being hung, Andy. Nothing better than being hung.

Am I right? I don't know, Jess. Are you right? I don't know. I'm truly unsure. I'm not sure either, to be honest. So Brady, the guy who betrayed Brady, he eventually catches up with him, right? And he kills him.

And that is the only death that is actually known to be a tribute. to Brady. He kills his friend who betrayed him. Some friend. But remember, that was one of the rules that he lay down at the start. He was allowed to avenge traitors. So he's just sticking by the rules. Apparently, the guy, he catches, he comes and finds this guy in some other cabin, right?

And he sits down and has a cup of tea with him, right? Just looking at him across the table and holding his gun. And the guy knows exactly what's going to happen. and then he says, all right, I'll give you a head start. You can run towards that tree. And as soon as he turns around, he just shoots him in the hand. That's kind of a nice way of doing it, I guess. I guess, gave him that hope.

But also did it quicker than it seemed, so it wasn't like he didn't have to panic for ages. Guy killed, did he agree to this rule? Ignorance of the rules is no defense. That's right. Just, oh, no, yeah, I said I'm allowed to kill people who I want to. too. So it's fine. I think that should hold up more in the court of law. Yep. In the court of law. Everyone's got there. You've got your rules, judge. Well, I've got my rules too. And they differ

from yours slightly. So let's agree to disagree. I've got a hammer at home. You know, we're all we're the same, basically. I declare you guilty, judge. I mean, it is ridiculous when you think about it, isn't it? Who are you to judge me, judge? The crime of double standards. So eventually he decides he's sick of Tasmania and he wants to go to the mainland, which is a common problem that Tasmania still has, holding on to its young, bright people. I see a lot of myself in Brady. Yeah. In this regard.

You outgrew Tasmania is how you felt. After killing a man. I was on the run for a murder. Yeah. So they steal a boat to sail to Tasmania, but it's too rough to get across to the mainland, but it's too rough to get across Bass Strait, right? This is the thing I've also done is sail across Bass Australia, and I can guarantee it is very rough.

It's one of the... The Sydney to Hobart yacht race is the roughest, roughest ocean race in the world. I didn't know that. I didn't know it was the roughest. Wow. Well, it might not be true. It is now.

I'd love to know the scale you use for roughness. Oh, that's the Graves Roberts scale. Oh, wow. from as smooth as a do-go on introduction, all the way up to as rough as this analogy. And you're not the only one who's sailed across the Bastrat. I caught the Spirit of Tasmania there and back a decade or so we go. Spirit of Tas.

Did you throw up? Oh, yeah. We were sitting in the bar. I had my video camera there back in the old day. you have a camcorder and I was filming us we're just drinking in the bar and like watching it back

a few weeks later it was half an hour or so and I'm like how deep into this trip are we and then the camera pans across and we're still sitting docked in at Melbourne ah the open ocean

smell that sea breeze but yeah so he turns back And I think he's getting a bit, at this point, he starts to get a little bit reckless. So he sends word to the commandant at Launceston, Lonseston being the town in the north of Tasmania. With the Bush Rangers' compliments, he sends them word that he proposes to rob Mr. Dry's house,

which is about a mile out of Lonseston, and attack the Lonseston jail on the same night. And so the story is that the soldiers that got this message basically thought it was a joke. Yeah, right. But it wasn't a joke. So he attacks Mr. Dry's house. And the gang robs the place,

while apparently Brady entertained the ladies in the parlour with amusing stories and even a sentimental song to his own accompaniment on the piano. And then a servant escapes and notifies the soldiers in town. So they send a posse from the jail out to Mr. Dries' house. And meanwhile, while they're gone, the other half of Brady's gang attacks.

the jail. And they get to Dry's house and there's a bit of a shootout and, but their whole gang gets away. Oh, wow. Yes, but they didn't succeed in breaking anyone out of the jail this time. But now he's just, he's sort of just taking the piss. And the governor now is really, really getting angry, right? And he ups the reward to 300 guineas or 300 acres of land, free of rent and it was offered up for the capture, while the offer of a free pardon and free passage to England was made to any prisoner who captured them. And a guinea, I had to look up what that is,

but it was a gold coin. The return passage to England would have been an enormous incentive for convicts because most of them never made at home, even if they were released, and a lot of them were after seven to ten years sentences, only a tiny, tiny fraction, only a handful of them ever made it back to England because they just couldn't afford it. You know, and it was just such a huge journey. So being sent back there would have been a big incentive.

And the governor himself took to the field in search. And now even people who were supportive before Brady were starting to turn on him, just because the incentive is just so great. And it gets so crazy that the settlers, and the settlers are so worried that the other prisoners will break out of the prison and join Brady's gang that they petition the governor to just hang everyone in the prisons. Whoa. Yeah.

And they don't do that, but they do get a bit hanging crazy. And in one, like one court session, 37 prisoners are sentenced to be hanged just in one day. So they're really going nuts. Wow. Yes, but Brady is not slowing down, and he's just doing raids pretty much every day, burning down rich people's houses and destroying their crops if they cross him.

And he's got a bit of an aesthetic now. He's got these two white stallions that he stole from Mr. Dry's house, and he's got the hat of the corporal that they shot off when they were having the shoot out at Mr. Dry's house, so he wears that. And he always keeps himself well-dressed. So he would have been one of the best dressed people.

in the colony, riding around on his white horse with Colonel Balfour's hat. Whoa. I'm now imagining Napoleon. Yeah. Yeah. And he sounds like he was a similar height as well. And fully... I think that is the thing about...

Not trying to be hidden at all anymore either. Like, a white horse is so distinctive. So, yeah, getting very confident. Exactly. Here's another anecdote. When the bush rangers were going down the Tamar, that's the river in the north of Tasmania, they captured Captain White of the Duke of York in his boat,

and Captain Smith, late of the Brutus, who was with him. Captain Smith was mistaken for Colonel Balfour. They thought it was Colonel Balfour, and they knocked him down, but discovering their mistake, they apologised. They then made Captain White go down upon his knees and were going to shoot him, but Captain Smith interfered and saved his life

on representing to them the misery that it would inflict on his children. During the night, Captain Smith and White were allowed to depart, and they made the best of their escape all the way to Lonseston. So they're not totally heartless still. But more and more people are turning against him, and some soldiers managed to separate Brady from the gang, and he's betrayed by an ex-convict who wants the pardon, and there's another shootout, and Brady gets shot in the ankle

as he's trying to escape. Okay, but he does get away. But now things are pretty bad for him because he's on his own. That's where the term Brady's ankle comes from, isn't it? That well-known term Brady's ankle. My fatal flaw, my Brady's ankle. I thought it was a type of pastry, a Brady's ankle.

Just grab us a Brady's ankle, thanks. Yeah, and a chucky milk. Yeah, and a chucky milk. Yeah, a nippies. Yes, a nippies. You said Balfour as well. I know the name Balfour as a pie. brand, Balfa's Pies.

I wonder if that's named in honour of that guy you just mentioned. General Balfour. Probably. I seem so, yes. You for know their work, Dave? Balfour's Pyes. I don't know if I've had a Balfour. Is that a Tasmanian pie?

Yeah, maybe it is. You're about to get a name that you will recognise, though, because Brady is still on the run by himself in the Western tiers, a very rough, isolated part of Tasmania. And that's when a bloke called John Batman, John Batman decides he is going to try and catch him. Right. Okay, so this is Batman, the same Batman,

who went on to found Melbourne, and is, as far as I can tell, one of the worst assholes in the history of Australia. And it's only starting to come to light, isn't it? Because there's a lot of things in Melbourne named after him, and people are like, we shouldn't have these things. It's a fun name for sure, but he was an awful person. It's such, you know, it's a very fun name.

I was so excited when I was like, oh, he's being hunted down by Batman, Batman. You know, this is just like that cartoon series, Batman or Batman. But then I remembered anything about Batman, and then the more I went on to read about him, the more unpleasant he seemed. So he was heavily involved in the genocide of the Palawa people in Tasmania. and although, you know, and like he seems really bad now.

The more you read about him, all the stuff he did. But then listening to the Frontier Wars podcast, there's another narrative going on, which is really interesting because they, a lot of historians paint the battles between indigenous people and, you know, the settlers, as being just between isolated settlers or individuals, your families and the indigenous people.

But actually there's evidence, quite suppressed evidence and quite hidden evidence, that actually soldiers were much more involved than a lot of our stories tell us. Right. And it's because, like, it was actually a war. It was just an undeclared war. And they didn't, the people out here, the governors and that sort of thing, didn't want the British back home to know that they were having this war. And so they didn't keep records of a lot of stuff.

And it was presented as this, you know, oh, there's isolated battles between, you know, free settlers and indigenous tribes. But actually, it was a campaign involving soldiers in a way that I didn't even realize. But that being said, Batman wasn't a soldier. He was, he's a quote from his neighbor. His neighbour was John Glover, who was a Tasmanian painter. He did some very nice paintings. He says,

Batman was a thief, a liar, a rogue, and a cheat, and a murderer of blacks, and the vilest man I have ever known. So that's who founded Melbourne, everyone. He originally called it Batmania. What? So we could have been named after him. Which makes him sound like an absolute maniac. Just name it after himself.

Batmania. I read some reports that described him. He was good in the bush, I think, like he was capable in the bush of surviving in the bush. But he was very vain and jealous and angry and, yeah, extremely, extremely violent. But he's now chasing Brady. and one day he aspired a man of dejected... Do you say Spider-Man?

Spider-Man. Batman and Spider-Man. DC and Marvel coming together. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a crossover episode and cost a lot of money to get the rights. He aspired, espied, I'm quoting ancient old English.

He espied a man. he a spider-man of dejected careworn aspect slowly limping along through the bush with the aid of a cut sapling and evidently in great pain suddenly the man caught sight of Batman and at once the stick was thrown aside

and his gun was on his shoulder with a finger on the trigger Brady called out are you a soldier officer for soldiers with his abhorrence and Batman was wearing a frock coat and a foraging cap I'm no soldier Brady was the reply I'm John Batman surrender

there is no chance for you. For a moment or two, Brady communed with itself and then said, you are right, Batman. My time has come. I will yield to you because you are a brave man. So this is the story that we have from Batman. You are the biggest man I have ever met. I will yield to only you.

For my respect for you is so large and you are so well hung. I'll only be hanged by a man so well hung. If you want to feel a bit, bit better about Batman. He died, I think, one of the most horrible deaths I've ever read about. Oh, good. Which is that he had syphilis and basically his face rotted off. Yeah. So, yeah. It's real grim. Is that why he put on the mask? At the age of 38. So, yeah. He came to Melbourne. He became quite rich, but he, you know, and he married. But then his nose fell off and his wife left him. And he, and he,

he died. Really, really unpleasant death. So, Brady's been captured. And here's a quote from a newspaper article that was published several years later. It was natural that his capture should be received with the demonstrations of joy by the populace. Yet, strange to say, hundreds of persons,

including ladies, openly expressed sympathy with him, some of the latter freely shedding tears at the recital of the sufferings of the poor man whose chivalrous treatment of all females was one of the distinguishing characteristics of his career in the bush. So they petition the governor, they try and get the governor to let him off,

but he is sentenced to death. And here's another quote. His cell was besieged with visitors and his table was loaded with presents, baskets of fruit, bouquets of flowers and dishes of confectionery prepared by his fair admirers were tended in abundance

to the jailer for his distinguished captive. The last moment came the dramatic scene was maintained to its close. Pined, he stood on the scaffold before a dense mass of spectators who cheered him for his courage and grieved bitterly for his fate. He received the consolations of the Roman Catholic fate. He bade a familiar adieu to the gentleman about him and he died more like a patient martyr than a felon murderer.

So apparently he was on the gallows with a convict called Jeffries, had a reputation as a mass murderer and a cannibal and also an informant, and Brady was really indignant about being hanged alongside an informant. Cannibal, fine. Informant. Mass murderer, okay, I'll give you that. But a snitch?

Informant. I got to get hanged with a snitch. Yeah, I'm going to hand me with a snitch. Yes, you know, he kept his whatever his twisted morals were to the end. I've read that some historians say that his actions were much more those of a rebellion than just a crime spree. And it's true that a conflict in Australia got a pretty raw deal, but I don't know.

Would you regard him as a rebel? Oh, yeah. Definitely. He definitely, yeah? A rebel with a cause sounds like it. Mm-hmm. And a hat. Oh, yeah.

Rebel with a hat. A horse. His wife horse. Yeah. And that is the story of Matthew Brady, gentleman bush ranger. Great story. How old was he when he was hanged?

28. Oh, wow. And he had been, oh, do you want to guess how long he was on the run for? How long all that took? That sounded like a couple of years, maybe. It was 21 months. Yeah, right. That's amazing to be on the run for that length of time.

And kind of not even really hiding that much. Yeah. Well, you know, Tasmania is a small state by Australian standards, but it's like at this time, you know, there's only 10,000 people living there. You know, and it's, it is so wild. It's only been settled for about 20 years at the time. So you could, you know, you could just run off into the hills.

and no one would be able to follow you or find you. And because he had so many of the convicts on his side, yeah, I think he just got away with it, man. It's all about networking, isn't it? Yeah, it's who you know. That's what I say. That's a great story. I'd never heard of him.

Me neither. Yeah, I came across him a couple of years ago, just saw the mention of his name and the fact that he'd taken the Sorrel Jail. I was like, that's a cool story. And I think, like, this feels like the sort of thing that you would make a movie of. Yeah.

Yeah. Because there's that, you know, that underdog and that, you know, you get to cast him as some handsome, well-dressed, yet short man. Dave. Tom Cruise. Thank you. Okay, all right.

Tom Cruise. We're going for an Aussie casting. Surely Errol Flynn must have thought about it back in the day. Hollywood's own. Tasmanian. Yes, who went to my school. Did he really? My high school.

Oh, yeah. But he also went to almost every high school in Tasmania because he was constantly getting expelled for doing naughty, sexy things. Oh. But we can't even feel good about Errol Flynn because he was also a total asshole. Damn it. Extremely unpleasant man. Oh, is that a Tasmanian thing?

Was he like unpleasant in a Tasmanian way, you mean? I just wonder. I mean, it's just we're learning about these Tasmanians and often they sound to be unpleasant. Well, to be fair, Batman wasn't originally from Tasmania and he did go on to Foundry. That's fair, yeah.

Let's not go tarring with Russians. I do enjoy how you use the euphemism of unpleasant a lot to describe. Did I say that a lot? Well, just anything that is the other side of awful, I love the understatement. of unpleasant. Yeah.

Because it contains the word pleasant. So if you want to, you can just focus on that. Yeah. Really softens the blow. That was so good, Andy. Thanks so much for coming to tell us that story. I know you've got to run before we go on to everyone's favorite section of the show, the fact credit or question, et cetera, section.

But before you go, just one more time. For people who don't maybe didn't fully get how big and important your work on Magma is, do you want to just describe it one more time? it's my engineering comedy presentation, but it's not about engineering. It's not about engineering. We play two stupid people who think that they're geniuses

trying to rebuild the world in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. And if you go to sOSpresents.com, you can get our live show performed without any of the annoying audience laughter that you would normally get if you came and saw it live. So you can just enjoy it in peace

and just fill the room with your own laughter. Yeah. And it probably sounds a bit high for Luton maybe. And you probably would, there would be extra laughs if you are an engineer, I'd say. But I watched it as someone who actually hates engineers. And I still loved it very much. I found it very, very funny.

And yeah, it actually almost made me maybe want to rethink my lifelong opinions on engineers that were formed. in my university days. I watched it as someone with a hatred of Alastair Tremblay-Birtchall. And while it didn't fully turn me around on my feelings to him, I still managed to enjoy the show. I think one of the real, and one of the great, one of the great bonuses is hearing Andy talking a funny voice for a whole hour.

For a long time, yeah. I really committed to that voice, and I think I more or less managed to keep it up. Yeah, it'd be great. Terrible for my throat and vocal cords, but, you know, that's what you've got to do. So funny. If you're not willing to write funny enough material,

you've got to be prepared to do a really silly voice. Yeah. And that's my promise to you. So good. And so once people get up to stream, they can watch it, you know, every day for the rest of their life if they want it. Is that kind of true? Correct.

And I think it's very affordable. It's less than $10. That's boring. you're basically giving it away. What are you the gentleman comedian? That's me. Thanks so much for joining Sandys. And people can also find your podcast, obviously,

two in the think tank and your stupid old Andy on Twitter. That's right. Where you make lots of funny short sentences and just put them out for the world to enjoy it. Like a gentleman would. Thanks, Matt. Thanks, everybody for having me. I love you.

And now it's time for everyone's favorite section of the show. show, the fact quote or question section, which I believe has a little jingly or something like this. Fact quote or question. He always remembers the ding, although that time I barely remembered. I'm not sure if he did. I just wanted everyone at home to panic a little bit. Well, I panicked.

I did. I think I had a little panic in my underpants, if you know what I mean. Oh, no. No. A weed in your underpants. You did a panic wee. I did a panic wee. Yes.

Sure. So to get him. In this, you go to patreon.com slash do you go on Pod and you get involved on the Sydney-Shaunberg Deluxe Memorial Edition package level and then you get to give us a fact, a quote or a question. Then I'll read them out on the show. We do four each week. And you also get to give yourself a title. Firstly, this week, this one comes from Zach Dobren, who's given himself the title of

official promoter of the pod to high school students in Virginia. Oh, wow. Okay. Very niche, but a very important role. Is Virginia a creamy country? No, that's Vermont. But it's on that side. I imagine it's not that big a drive to go and get a sweet, sweet creamy.

Or a creamy, creamy, creamy. Virginia's one of the original states, isn't it? One of the oldest ones. Yes. And Zach has given us a quote, and this is his quote, day one. It was a quote by me, Matt Stewart. We still don't know what you were talking about. I know what you meant.

What were you talking about? I liked it because there were listeners who said, I knew what you meant. And I like that because everyone was able to put on their own meaning. So that's fantastic. I can't remember what episode that was in, but I just had a brain fade probably maybe a year ago now. I don't, I have no concept of time.

It could have been five years ago. No idea at all. But Zach does say these are truly words to live by and an inspiration to all. Yes. Thank you, Zarek. Well said. Thanks, Sam. The next one comes from David Loring,

who's given himself the title of executive director of party tricks that take a lot of effort and impress very few. Ah, so you kind of want... I'd flip that. You want the other way around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what he's in charge of. And David is giving us a fact.

And that fact is, the original Nokia SMS tone is Morse code for SMS. Dot dot dot dot dash dot dot. I had no idea. That's a great fact. That's a great fact. Jess, is that fun? Yeah, that's a fun fact.

I was about to say it. And then realize my position. Your position is grim facts. Was that a grim fact? No. It's a delightful fact. And you hit us with a few good grim facts in this episode. Mainly about Batman.

and Australia just having a fucking dark pass. Real bad. And present. The next, thank you so much, David Loring. The next one comes from Nathan Damon, who has given himself the title of Matt Stewart's stunt double. That's great. Do you need a third person for a stunt ass?

Or do you do your own ass? No, I do my own ass work. Great work. Nice. Nice. I've been doing Bulgarian split squats to get myself ready. get my ass in the right shape. You do six months to work for six seconds of screen time. I love it.

Six seconds? Please don't linger that long. That would seem like an eternity. Just a flash, just a little flash of butt. 0.6 of a second, maybe. No, no, I want the full six seconds, please. I'm the director here. With no real context.

It's just. People like, what the hell? This was a heist movie. Why is her butt? Did we really need to seem in the show? No dialogue for six seconds? And no, just a close-up on his ass? Just the ass.

Like pushed up against the shower screen door. Just wiggled around for a bit. What's a... E-E-E-E-E-E? What's an... A squashed ass on it? No, that's the chop. There's a squash frog, isn't it?

What's that? Is that an ass got a name? I don't know. Dave, you might have just started a new, whole new craze that's going to sweep the nation. Sweat the nation's bathrooms. Imagine people are trying to do it at home and they're like, oh, but I only have a shower curtain. Just does not work.

So Nathan Damon has given us a fact as well. And his fact is there's only one letter that doesn't appear in any US state name. Ooh, Dave, any guesses? X. It's not X. No, Texas. Q. It is Q.

What on, Bob? Hey, Dave. What's this? What's this I got here for you? What's that? A little present for you. What are you doing? Dave, please describe the Jess shoot, Jess is.

Jess is holding up her finger. It looks like it's bleeding. Yeah. Okay. Give me this one. That's how much fury she has for you, Dave. She's sticking you up a bloody middle finger. And we've got one here from Vinnie Bonadonna to close us out this week.

Great name, Vinnie Bonadonna. Absolutely. Crackett. Who we've heard from before. I mean, we've heard from mostly. people before but Vinnie Bonadonna what a name given himself the title of the Greyhound I love that

sounds pretty badass that is super bad and he's also given us a fact bring in the Greyhound bring in the Greyhound call the Greyhound not the fact right so no questions this week which is anyways we're getting a lot of questions lately so it's good to have a bit

of a mix up with a bunch of facts so this one from Vinny is The city of Chicago's nickname, the windy city. Ah, the windy city. Chicago is not based on the weather in the city. The moniker derives from the shady politicians who are blowing wind when they speak out of their mouths or full of hot air. And Vinny Bonadonna is from Chicago.

He says, I learned this when I was about 13, now living in Las Vegas. I made a subtle joke to my dad about how windy it is here. in this city compared to Chicago. And then my dad told me this. There could be some debate on the meaning of the nickname, though. Thank you guys for making cool stuff. I'm grateful for it. And a bonus quote,

life happens wherever you are, whether you make it or not. And that's from Uncle Iro. Thank you, Vinnie. There you go, windy city. Not so windy. Yeah, the windy city. Always assumed that it was more,

like what it said it was. Yeah. We take things so literally, you know? We need to take a step back every now and then. Yeah, every down then. So that brings us to everyone's other favorite part of the show where we thank a few of our patrons, a few more of our patrons. And these great patrons are on the probably arse-prod level.

Or is it DB Cooper? How do I still not know this? We just don't need to say it. Okay. I should just not say it. Is that what you're saying? People can just go to Patreon and say it. they can work it out. Well, you know, that isn't necessarily the case because people don't necessarily

always work it out, Dave. And I think me being confusing about it here is helpful. That's right. We're steering him in the right direction. So if I can kick it off, or Jess, what kind of game do you want to play with these names? Well, it's a tough one. I was thinking, you know how he was sort of called like the Gentleman Bush Ranger? Can we give them some kind of title? Oh, yeah. The Gentleman's something else or the Something Bush? stranger or anything, I guess. Anything. I love that.

You can show me what you mean when I... Thank from Endicott in New York State, United States. Austin Horst. Great name. Great name. The... It is a really great name. Gentle, gentle truck driver.

Okay. All right. That's nice. That's a nice name. The gentle truck driver, Austin Horst. Gentle on the road. Yeah. So, I think I'm, it could just be anything.

Does it have to have gentle in it? No. I love it. The gentle truck driver, Austin Horst. Thanks so much for your support. I'd also love to thank from Bristol in Great Britain, Marisol Forbes. Oh, I think that we met Marisol at our shows in Bristol last year. And she was the artist that made us all a little thing.

Oh, wow. I saw mine sitting in my bedside table drawer my saints badge because the badge bit fell off the back. So now it's just a beautiful little keepsake sitting near my head when I sleep. She made me a little pie key ring, which I think is really awesome. Do we ever put out a photo of those things, surely? I don't think we did, but we should. Amazing, we should do that, sure.

Good memory, Dave. Marisol. Marisol. Great name. Marisol four. So Marisol maybe could be the... I'll give you the adjective and then you give the professional or whatever. The fantastic baker. Oh yeah.

Because of the pie? Yeah. The fantastic baker. I mean, if you can make a pie key ring, you can make a real pie, right? Yeah. Surely. The key ring is a lot harder than a pie. If you got a door, you've got a gym.

If you've got a pie key ring, you've got a pie maker. Yes, exactly. Thank you so much, Marisol. Thanks, Marisol. Finally, I love to thank from Antioch in Tennessee in the United States, I reckon TN. Melissa Pissarski. Melissa is the quiet tickler. Oh, quiet tickler.

Oh, the quiet tickler. Never see it, you never hear it coming. That's right. You just might be sitting there watching TV and then tickle, tickle, tickle. Too late. You've been tickled. You've been tickled. That's her catchphrase, you've been tickled.

And it's a good catchphrase. And it's a pleasant tickle as well. It's not one of those ones that makes you, you know, want to punch a wall. Is that one of the kinds of tickles? This one makes you want to just giggle with joy. You go, ah, you got me. You got me. And she doesn't go too far.

She doesn't tickle you for ages where you're like, stop, please. It's just sort of like a little bit and you go, ooh, oh, oh, you're fun. thing. Yeah, exactly. It's cheeky. It's beautiful. Thank you so much to Melissa, Marisol and Austin. Who would like to thank a few more of our great patrons?

I'd like to. Yeah, I got in first. I'd like yesterday. To thank someone as well, I was going to say. Well, I would love to thank from Rustberg in VA. We're back in Virginia. Yes. Which, can I just say so just quickly,

I looked up the distance between Vermont and Virginia. Virginia, and someone's going to tweet me this. It's like a 12-hour drive, so it's not the easiest place to get a creamie from, but still, it's closer than we are, Goddammit. Yes. You'd happily do a 12-hour drive one, wouldn't you? Alphabetically very close. Yes.

Well, I would love to thank Parker Riley. Fantastic name. Parker Riley, aka the devastating... Ooh. Devastating... Firemen. Oh, the devastating comment. That's probably not the combo you want.

Does, do they devastate fires? No, he's just devastatingly handsome. Oh, that's a good combo. Parker. That's a stereotype, right? Firemen are handsome. That can't be. I mean, what a wild connection those two things have.

I think there's something very appealing about someone who can pick you up over their shoulder. and just... Like a kidnapper? Yeah. Yeah, you know. I just want to be carried around sometimes. Piggy back.

Sometimes my legs get tired and I want someone to carry me. I mean, you do, you push a lot of weight. Those leg presses. What are you up to? Yeah. Oh, we've been in lockdown. I haven't been able to go to the gym. I'm so excited to go.

Gym's back open here in Melbourne this week, is it? Oh, my God. Yeah, next week it starts. Are you going to start with like a low weight and work those legs back up. Absolutely, because in that two-week block where we were allowed to go to the gym, I overdid it and couldn't walk for a week. So I've learnt, and I'm going to just ease it.

But I'm very excited. Hey, Jess, after you do a bit of work there, you could be my butt double. Oh, my God. Yes. Six seconds. I can do it now. I don't even need to do any work, and I could be an amazing bad double. I got a six-second scene that you are perfect for.

It's going to be a big break. It look completely different, different heights. That's confused. I don't think that's him. That's definitely a woman's waist. No, no. Anyway, thank you, Parker. I'd also love to thank from Roseville.

What's MN? Minnesota. I'm doing so well today. I'm doubting myself, but I'm getting it. Roseville, Minnesota. I'd love to thank Jessica English. Jessica English. Oh, the brilliant archaeology.

Oh, that's cool. Like that. When I was a kid, I wanted to be an archaeologist. Yeah, me too. A dream. I didn't really know what it meant apart from digging up fun stuff and discovering stuff. Basically, I was inspired by the phrase film, The Mummy.

Of course. Of course you were. Who wasn't inspired by that film? Oh my God, great movie. Great dashing lead. The guy who played the mummy. You're welcome, Jessica. Yeah.

Yeah. And finally, I would love to thank from Rosalind Park, South Australia, Tony Faye. Oh. Tony Faye. Rosalind Park. First, Aussie, we'll have thanked today. So, obviously, Tony Faye, the dashing...

Chef. Oh, the dashing chef. Wow. There's a television series ready to go for the dashing chef, I reckon. Easily, yep. What's his specialty? What does he cook? This is Tony with an eye, so it might be a she.

Specialty is a Portuguese cuisine. Oh, wow. That's quite nice. Like Nandoes? Yeah, Nandoes. Oh, wow, the South African chain. There you go. Dave, do you want to bring it home?

I'd love to. Thank you so much, everyone's thanks so far. But let me take it home from Limerick City in Ireland. is Christina Ma. Christina Ma. Limerick, is that Stab City? Oh, it's caught. You get confused.

There's always two you never know which is which. Yeah, and I guess one would be offended and one's proud of it. Yeah, we're Stab City. And I was like, no, we're not Stap City. Limerick. I don't know. Ma. Okay, what about the Marvelous?

Ooh. Dragon Slayer. Oh, whoa. Far out. That is good. Holy crap. Sorry everyone else. Yeah, Christina, you've just taken it to the next level.

I just gave Tony a fucking chef. Long hours. But Portuguese. Anti-social long hours. It's Portuguese. Come on. Fucking Christina coming in here. Whoa.

Limerick is known as Stab City. Colloquially. Why? Co-oquel-wee. I think they were there at one point was a few stabbings there. Right. Hopefully it's less rough now. That's just what went on, when I traveled through there,

people told me that late after I was wandering around at night by myself. And then people are like, you wandered around by yourself at night in Stab City? You know, I just wondered why I got stabbed six times. I thought they didn't like me. But they do that for everyone. That's their local custom. So thank you, Christina.

I would like to thank now from Preston here in Victoria, Shannon Bowler. Shannon Bowler. Shannon is the... What about the... Tremendous? Oh, that's good. Trepeze.

Artist? Or just actual trapeze? People jump. The human trapeze. Yeah. Well, the tremendous trapeze, in brackets, human trapeze. Wow. Which ones are the trapeze again?

Is that the one where you're sort of flipping around? Flip it around on like a little, you know, a little flying fox style stuff. I would absolutely do trapeze. What? Really? Yeah. I tried to do monkey bars for the first time in a long time recently, and whatever strength you need to do them is not there anymore. Yeah, it's wasted on kids, I reckon.

So I'm like, all right, I'm getting some sort of a chin-up bar and I'm going to work. I've got to be able to reclaim the monkey bars. I mean, I host one of the world's top five primate bass. based podcasts. I need to be able to do the monkey bars. I believe it's also, you know, it probably requires a fair bit of core strength. You might need to do some ab work. Yeah, I've been doing ab work.

We've been doing planks every two out of three days. That's good. Side planks, they suck. Well, they did. They're getting easy, but they find, at first, I couldn't do it for 10 seconds. Yeah. Anyway, this is fun chat. I've just looked at the Merriam-Webster dictionary.

The word, you can say trapeze artists. You can also say tripeze. So can I change that to the tremendous trapeasist. Yeah, that sounds great. I love that. Great. Trapeasist. That sounds cool.

And yeah, so it's the sort of one where you hang in, it's like two, it's like, yeah, like a pole and you're hanging and each end is. Like a little swing you hang onto. Yeah. Swing. The swing you hang onto is, yeah, I was never going to get there. I don't know how. I made that so difficult. Anyway, would you believe it?

Make it something more confusing than it is? Well, that brings us to the end of Oh, I believe I have one more, right? Oh, do we have time for one more? Yeah, all right. We've got time for one for more. I'd like to thank from South Shields in Tyne and Weir, great Britain.

It is Jamie Collins. The... The... What have I set you out and you finished it off, Bob? Yeah. The Big Piper. Oh, I like it. Yeah, Big Piper's good.

That's good. The big piper. Like you thinking bagpipes? Bagpipes, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm a fantastic instrument. You don't want to live next door to someone who plays it, but still. No.

It's fresh in my mind because I looked up what do you call a bagpipe player just last week because someone, I opened up questions on my Instagram story and someone said, who should I listen to first as a foreigner, John Farnham or Jimmy Barnes? And I said, start with John Farnham. Sorry, Matt. and then I shared a video of John Farnham playing at my work Christmas party a few years ago and how they had someone come out just to play bagpipes for 10 seconds and then leave. I was like, how much did work pay for this?

This is insane. Any chance you can just bump our pay up a little? Yeah. We don't have to have this Christmas party, you know. I'd love some sick leave, but no. I like Farnsey too. I'm a big Barnsey fan, obviously, but I'm a, I'm a big Barnsie fan, obviously, but I'm also partial.

Mum brought me up on a bit of Farnsey as a kid as well. I've seen Farnsey a few times in concert. I saw him once where he did a double headline show with Lionel Ritchie. Oh, wow. Do they do any songs together? They did. I can't remember what it was. And Farnsey was on first.

Lionel closed it out. And I'm going to tell you, Farnsey blew Lionel off the stage. Whoa. Wow. That's awesome. Obviously, both. Both. Legends.

of the game. Yeah. Of the pop music game. Yeah. So the Big Piper. I like that a lot. It sounds like one of Australia's big things. Yeah.

And that only leaves us with a few triptitch club inductees to talk about. And the way you get involved in this is staying on the shout out level of Patreon supporter group for three years. And then you get brought in. into this very exclusive club.

I'm standing out the front. I'm about to open up that, lift that velvet rope. There's a few people waiting on the red carpet. Dave's inside. He's going to hype you up as I read your name. Jess is going to hype him up. Jess has also worked on some hors d'oeuvres, a few cocktails, and Dave's booked a band.

Who have we got here for all the Triptage Club members? We got the music of Sting. Whoa! Performed by who? Performed by Sting. Black League. Oh, okay. He's covering himself.

That was quite a hard get. He wanted to play other stuff these days. He actually asked if he could bring out Shaggy because they did an album together last year. I said absolutely not. So Shaggy's still at home. So it's just Sting, solo, and also some of the police hits as well. Oh, right.

When Sting went up to Shaggy to tell him the news, and he said, did it... It's so good. Here we go. We know where you going. Come on. Here we go. What happened, Matt.

Matt, please, tell the story. Come on, paint that picture. Shaggy, obviously, he was the one who was talking to Dave, and Shaggy went up to Singh and said, Dave Warniky booked one of us for the Triptage Club. And Singh goes, oh, which one of us did he book? And Shaggy said, it wasn't me. And Shaggy said, was it Mr. Bombber.

Mr. Rovalova. That was quite a story, Matt. Thank you so much for that. That is exactly how it happened. So a peeked behind the velvet rope and the curtain there. But Sting, Fields of Gold, he hits the stage. Oh, what a tune. About 9 o'clock.

Love that tune. Second set, 1130. He really gets the beat going. It's a late night, Saturday night thing. Does some of his police work. Yeah. As in he starts to, you know, check IDs and stuff. Yeah, he's on the door as well.

Yeah. Oh, but Fields of Gold. I've forgotten about that song. That's a great song. Covered beautifully by I can't remember her name Oh God I know what you mean

So good I don't know what you mean But And Jess what kind of Ordubs are we got This week We've got a classic Aussie barbecue

I got a couple of barbys on the go We got some of my dad's Classic potatoes Oh Just slices them up real thin Makes chips out of them I love that I love barbecues

That are just You just chuck anything on and it works. You could barbecue anything in it's so good. But potatoes great. Br onions, big fan. Oh, yeah. And, you know, lots of different types of meat, but salads and just, you know, help yourself.

A few veggie shish kebubbs. Of course. Wouldn't be a barbecue without some shish kebabs. And drink-wise, we actually have a specialty cocktail this week called Fields of Gold. Oh, wow. And it is vodka, passion, fruit and mango. That sounds delicious.

Eva Cassidy's who I was thinking of, the cover of Fields of Gold, is quite good. Now, is that all we need to do before I start bringing them in? Yeah. All right, well, let's go through the list. We've got a few in this week. You also have to tell the people at home what's happening, because I've never heard this before. I am the hype man for these people, and then Jess is my hype woman.

Yes. Hyping me up to hype up these guests. Yeah. So, and I'm really glad that Andy didn't stick around for this because it is quite embarrassing. And there's a few today, Dave. So I don't need, you just need to keep believing in yourself. How many are there? Keep the steam going.

There's more this week than it has been in quite a while, okay? Okay. Oh, my God. What did we do three years ago to get him in? Thanks so much, everyone. Yeah, there's, there is. So, all right, let's go through them. These are all big names too.

It was a big week for us three years back. from Janesville in, I'm going to say Wisconsin, W.I. Janesville in the United States, it's Robert Crandall. Oh, but he just named Crabopal. I've been going to Crandall. Welcome in with a Simpsons quote. From Seville, East in Victoria, Australia, Terry Nighouse. Oh, it's going to be a Nigh house tonight.

Yeah, woo. The main. From Shetland in Scotland, it's Ben Fulton. Oh, you ain't no Fulton. You're a legend. Yeah. From Conroe in Texas, United States, Stephanie and Evan Keller. Oh, it's Keller and Keller.

Come on down. All right. Yeah. From Brisbane in Queensland, Australia, it's Millie Soft. Oh, well, how do you spell that? S-O-F. Oh, I. I was going to say, yeah, because it's not going to be a soft night.

It's going to be a hard night. We're going to go all night. All right. From Spokane in Washington, the United States, Matthew Danis. I thought it wasn't going to be a good night. But I spokane too soon. It's going to be a great night. Yeah.

From Bentonville in, I think, Arkansas in the United States, is Paul Valentine. Will you be my Paul Valentine? Yes. And a couple more from Fernie Hills in Queensland, Australia. It's Alice Joy. Okay. Oh, you bring us a lot of joy. Yes.

And finally, from Derry in Ulster, Great Britain. Northern Ireland, I reckon. It's C-I-A-N. Sean? Sean. Sean. Sean. From Derry in Ulster, it's Sean.

Lanigan. Woo! Dairy Girl is here! Yeah. All right. Thank you so much, everyone, for putting up with that. Oh my God. Dave needs a nap now.

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