Two In The Think Tank - 263 - Matthew Brady; The Gentleman Bushranger (with Andy Matthews)

Episode Date: November 4, 2020

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Pfft. Pfft. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnke and there's always him here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hi, I'm Matt Stewart and I'm just Perkins. So good to be here. We have smoothed that out because that was becoming a bit clumsy a little too long ago. So it is good that we've got that working a lot nicer. It used to be really unpredictable But now it's like we've just got this beautiful structure where we both just know exactly what we're gonna say Yes, and what order we say to you and just like it just flows

Well, let me to say this another person here who may also know what to say. Please welcome in our special guest, it's Andy Matthews. Hi, Andy. Hello, thanks so much for having me here on the show about introductions and how well I've gone. And how do you think yours went? As a long-term fan of the podcast, might I say, it's good to see that you haven't got any more comfortable with the concept of introducing yourselves or explaining what the podcast does. As soon as you lose that for me, you've sold out.

Yeah, we get some expo- I think too, how do you get 50 episodes? You're keeping it fresh. I love it. Each one is like the very first time. This is some of the nicest feedback we've ever had. That's my family. I appreciate that. Andy, listeners will know you from a previous visit

to the Dooh Go On podcast show where you talked about some sort of scientist. Sir Isaac Newton. Sir Isaac Newton. That's right. And I think about that all the time when I don't want to. And that thing about impoking himself through the eye hole. And I can't, and then I can't stop thinking about it.

Oh, fuck you Andy. And then you're like, how do I get this out of my head? I know. I'll get a pointed stick and I'll drive it from my brain. Yeah, it's a common, it's a common thing that a lot of people go through. Yeah. But you're back. It's so good to have you back. You're also a regular on, on all of the podcasts in this podcast network.

Oh, I mean, regular is a strong word. You've been on Bookcheek. Yes. And you also do your own podcast on the Planet Broadcasting Network called Two in the Think Tank where you come up with five sketches with your comedy writing friend, Alistair Tromboi-Berture. God, now, so you bring some of that introductory confidence to the do-go-on podcast map, and you will really be on fire. Look, if I was in Dave's spot, I reckon I could make it real smooth every time.

He leads us in, and it sort of walks us right off a cliff at the start every week. Oh, so you think it's hard? You don't think I should say I'm here with Matt and Jess. You want me to speak for you. Is that what you'd like me to do? I'm here with Matt. He's a good guy and here with Jess. She's a great-stounding comedian, radio host. Anyway, let's start the show.

Is that what you want? That's better. That would be better. You can take it out of our hands as much as possible. I put that out. I love that I gave Jess a couple of credits and I said Matt is a good guy. Sorry about that. Matt, you're also a good comedian. On the one, honestly, that's my number one priority in life.

It's to be a good guy. That all that other stuff is just cream on the cake. That's right. In the cake. Cream goes in the cake, doesn't it? Oh, I think it's all good. We don't know. Thank you, man.

Yeah, you make weird stuff. You have wrong orders with things. I put in cream in a cake. Anyway, Andy is, so his podcast on the Think Tank also is a live performing comedy duo with Alcetron by Virtual. And you put together a live show, which is streaming on Sauce Presents. Is that right, Andy? So as presents, you can go along and get it.

You can get a claimed, critically acclaimed show from the comedy festival last year, magma. And if you're one of the enormous sector of the online community, who is just crying out for a comedy engineering presentation about the world building potential of liquid hot magma, then this is, I gotta say, this is the show for you. We encourage you to watch it. It is, I gotta say, this is the show for you. We encourage you to watch it. It is, I think, funny.

And, you know, if I think it's funny, that means it might be pretty good. It is. Well, I saw it live, but the comedy festival, and it was very, very funny. And it was one of those almost annoying shows where everyone is talking about it, and no one's talking about my show And and you actually I remember you stood up in the audience and you said all right We get it. You've got a show called magma. Why don't you talk about my show? Yeah, you said Matt you're right We dedicated the rest the remaining 59 minutes of the hour show

dedicated the rest the remaining 59 minutes of the hour show. I don't know. Can I just say that I also saw the show last year with Jess. We went along one night and sorry, it was the funniest show I saw last year and I also saw Matt's show. So, I'll have your. This is getting uncomfortable. Wait, last year, when you directed my show, Dave? Look, I'm not that bad.

Yes, we paid him handsomely to ensure that your show wasn't better than ours. So it's good to see you there, hunts with. Well, yes, I saw the show at the Comedy Festival and then Andy and Al did a couple of sort of on-core performances at the butterfly club later in the year, which I bought tickets to, and I missed it because I got the time wrong in my own head. Oh. And so by the time I realized the show was starting, I hadn't left my house yet. So look, they got my money and sort of my financial support,

but definitely not my laugh in the crowd that night. But what I've since watched it again, I don't know as presents. And that is the beauty of the stream. Boomerig, buddy, out of the gift. The beauty of the stream is it doesn't matter if you realize that the show is about to start when you're still at home, because that's perfect. Just press play.

You could play any moment of the day. In fact, it would be a nightmare if you showed up at the Butterfly Club only to then realize that you were supposed to be watching it at home. But even then, you could probably do it over your phone. Yeah. So just and just sit outside the butterfly in an alleyway. I highly recommend people check that out. And there'll be a link in the show notes, which we know everyone reads.

So click on that and you can go all the way there. And while you're there, you can also buy tickets to our upcoming live streams. We're doing four live streams. I can't remember too many the details of them, but I think they start sometime in November and then sometime in December. But the details will be in the show notes there. Yeah, let me just take over there, Matt, just to take some confusion out of the first one, he is on the 22nd of November, Melbourne time, but we are doing four different, so it's four weekly shows and they're all at different times because this is a world tour. So there's some that cater to every single time zone.

All four of them. But you can also... We're going to cover all four time zones where that good. You're with that, too. Yeah. Whichever of the four hemispheres you live in, we'll cater to you. Easy peasy, don't worry about it. But like Andy show, you can also catch up online.

So even if you're not awake at the 3AM one, just watch the next day, you'll be right. Yeah, it's fine. And yeah, that'd be out. I love this world to a concept. I, when I heard about it, I thought that's really bloody good. That means a lot Andy, thank you.

Thank you so much. Thank you, and I'm sorry if anyone heard some jingling, there's a little jiggle bells in the background of that excellent explanation. I was trying to chase the cat out of the room. She was being... She was being very evasive. They liked that, aren't they? Fluff the word, trying like he didn't succeed. Oh, no, I didn't. In the end, she went into a different room and I just had to lock her

in there. Now, Andy, you're not only dropped by to plug your sweet comedy show, which we would have done anyway, as just a coincidence you were here. Yeah, the cat is meowing really loudly, try to get out of that room. Just, Matt, you just carry on with that introduction. Just keep it rolling. All right, I'll keep building it until you sit back in front of that microphone. So, we're, and he's not only here to plug his fantastic comedy show, Magma with Elsa Tromba virtual. He's also here, and we're so lucky to have him back here.

He's here to tell us a story about something just Dave and I don't know what it is. And this is how the show normally works. One of the three of us, in this case, one of the four of us, researchers a topic, and they bring the research they committed to paper usually or in some cases onto the screen of their computer. And then they'll read out that report back to us

because they've just lathered themselves up in the knowledge of this topic. You've done so well. And this week Andy is gonna be tear it doing this topic today. And we always start the topic with a question. Andy, what is your question today? My question to you is, if you had to be held up by an 18th century bushranger

wait that should be 19th century. Goddamn it. I'm sorry. Sorry I've already started thinking about my favorite 18th century. Sorry. Give me a second here to re-calibrate. If you had to be held up by a 19th century bushranger who would be the best one to get?

Oh. Oh, it's got to have gentlemen in his name. It was a gentleman Dan or something? Gentlemen Dan would be my choice, yeah. Because he was known for giving people money. Yeah, that's right. He would be like, wow, a Bush Ranger, do you want to mention? He go.

They called him gentlemen down to his face, but behind the scenes, they call them dumbass dad. I don't know. I mean, we've done Ned Kelly before, but he was 18th century, wasn't he? Who else was there? He was also 19th century. So 19th century is the 1800s. Yeah, right. This is what 17. I always get confused with Australian colonial history. The 1700s is when the British came, is it? Yeah, so it was 1800s. That's right. Everything happened in the late 1800s in terms of the stuff we learn in primary school about the thousands of years of Australian history, we learn about 20 years in the 1800s, where Birken Will set off, Ned Kelly was around,

and may I vote, there was some sort of boat stuff as well. Only one other name that comes around is Captain Moonlight, is that one? Yeah, he is one, I believe, but that is not correct. Matt was absolutely on the money with the word gentlemen. Oh really? We are talking today about Matthew Brady, gentlemen bush ranger.

Oh! So incredible instincts. Wow. Wow. My alternative title for this episode was Matthew Brady Tasmanian Bush Ranger, which is very exciting to me as a Tasmanian. And that's what drew me unto him, but I thought his,

that he was also known as the Gentleman Bush Ranger. And that has a certain appeal. Yeah, I like that. That's where we're going today. He robs you up in. And then he shines your shoes and gives you a breath mint or something. Yeah, I think you're thinking of a sort of a servant

or possibly an Uber driver. I've mastered Uber drivers and servants there. I'm thinking of Niles from the nanny. Yes. All right. So, shall we get into it? Yeah, I'm excited. This sounds great. All right. So shall we get into it? Yeah, I'm excited. This sounds great.

Here we go. Matthew Brady. Also known as Matthew Brady was born in Manchester in around 1798 to Irish parents. So he would have considered himself Irish. I think that was the time when you were Irish from Irish stock and would have thought of himself as an Irishman. Matt still tries to claim at it, so no surprises. Yeah, I'm all of the 15% Irish.

I'm like, yeah, both sides of my family are Irish, but we've been here for five generations. I'm like, yeah, basically Irish. Yeah, I can prove an answer. I did think of myself that way until I met an Irish person traveling in Europe and I said that and she told me to fuck off. I have not, I've stopped thinking of myself that way since.

She's like, no, you're not. Yeah. She's like, you get that, she said she gets it all the time and it's annoying and I said fair enough. You're totally right. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. I still think of myself as a homo erectus.

I wish I'd chosen a thing that didn't have erect in the name. Oh, all the human ancestors. And I, you went for homeo erectus. You may as well just have said, I've got a stiffie, you know? You know, you're right, I should have said that. That's why I was so disappointed myself. You think of yourself as gentleman, stiffie? Yeah.

The stiffish rainbow. And as a young man, Matthew Brady or Brady, the breadster, was a groom for the horses of a wealthy family by which I assume he was a groom. Yeah, he married them. I've actually got that written down as the joke here that I was about to do by which I assume he was getting married to the horse. We're on the same page, Jess. He apparently had a good sense of humour and

he was well spoken and wrote a good hand. So you can see what the horse is soaring in him. He wrote a good hand. Wrote a good hand. Yeah. It's what I look for in a groom. Sense of humour, well spoken, right to your hand. A good hand. I don't know what a man is. Not so good with any of the other words, but if you wanted the word hand written, that's what he's saying.

Specialises and calligraphy with those letters. Or any combination. And that's the date. You know, you could make a career of that. It was a simple time. Especially in the horse industry, because that's what they measure their heart in. Yes. So that would come up a bit.

Yeah. That tall is your wife. Well, for him. That's right. That's a true. I like him dainty. The shet one. I like to have a pony. Calma mate, you keep telling us you're married to a whore, so you're married to a pony, see you on us.

Calamite. And he was apparently very well liked by the family that he worked for until he turned to crime. And there are different versions of what his actual crime was. One version has it. He stole a basket, a firkin of butter, a 12 pound filch of bacon, 30 pounds of sugar, and two of rice.

The total value of which goods was five shillings. Can you convert that? Can you convert that all to firkins, please? Yes, just not familiar with my. Couple of words there that don't exist anymore that should firkins. What was the other one? Pound. Firkin of Butter and a cell, a 12 pound filch of bacon. Filch. Beautiful word.

A beautiful word. It is. It's on the borderline of not being beautiful, but it just stays just on the sides. You flip a ball around there and it really tends an astic fullness. Full, you know? Not good, but exactly. Just exactly.

And thank you. So that's, and the recipients of all of this stolen goods were apparently two 19-year-old girls, both single of the town. Now, that's one version, okay. And the other version is that he committed for forgery. So, two slightly different stories, perhaps, unless he forged the bacon. Yeah. It was really ham. Yeah, it's right. It wasn't a filter bacon at all. It was a firkin of ham. Now, one of those stories I got from the website of a cider company, and the other one I got from his official convict

transfer record, and I'll leave it up to you to decide which was which, and which is more possible. Well, the cider company, obviously. Yeah. Well, the side of company obviously. Yeah. Obviously, the side of company. Now, this was in the era of convict transportation. Okay? So, he was caught for this crime and he was sentenced to the standard term of seven to ten

years. So, England jails at the time were just filthy and overcrowded, and also, handily enough, they had a need for workers in the new colony of Australia. And so they started this campaign of transporting convicts, which started in 1788 with the first fleet, which is famous in Australia. We had the bicentennial in 1888. And is Australia day on the day of the arrival of the first fleet, or is it on the day of... He isn't at the first day the first fleet drove into botany bay back to the road in yeah they back to that and they drove am I doing back and I'm doing back and I'm

plenty of room you got me to do it yeah just the best parker in the group such a good park I'll never forget that park oh my god oh they could not have been they could not have been better millimeter yeah could not have been better. Millimeter. Yeah. It was like you've been driving big rigged your whole life. I believe it. There was not a furkin in it. You absolutely nailed it. They call you they call you furkin-furkin. So over over the next So over the next 80 years, there would be 160,000 convicts transported in total to Australia. And this was all by boat, obviously. And these are voyages.

The Voyager, the first fleet took 250 days to get from England to Australia. But he was transported not to Botany Bay, but to Van Demon's land in 1820, also now known as Tasmania. And Tasmania at this time had been undergoing invasion by British settlers for about 20 years. So to put that into some context, before the colonization of Australia, there were maybe around 15,000 Polarwa people. That's the indigenous Tasmanians. And then they were subject to an extremely brutal armed genocide over the next century, and they're still trying to reassert their culture. I would recommend, and I'm not in any way qualified to do justice to that

I would recommend, and I'm not in any way qualified to do justice to that story because we are not taught anything about that in school or at least I wasn't. But I'd recommend that you listen to a podcast called Frontier War Stories by Bo Spirum, and he has an episode about the Aboriginal Resistance in Tasmania. And maybe we'll put a link to that in the show notes. We'll put a link to that in the show. No, we'll put a link to that in the show. And I was for sure. Put a bloody link to it, mate. Yeah. I listened that episode and he talks to an academic historian. And it's really interesting. And it taught me a huge amount that I had no idea about. And I felt like I really did.

But it was great to, great to know. It's a, I wonder how the kids are doing now. Like it was so inadequate. What we got taught about Australian history. Oh, mate. I wonder if it kids are doing now. Like, it was so inadequate what we got taught about Australian history. I wonder if it's changed much. I tell you, the main thing that I learned was that Captain James Cook was considered really good to his men.

That's what I learned. So that's relevant. That seemed pretty relevant, doesn't it? Yeah. It's a good guy. Really good. That's a real hero. I thought I genuinely thought that until about two years ago. Yeah.

What an idiot. Well, I mean, you thought that from a young age. It's what, of course, you're going to keep believing it. I believe until recently that the bruises on bananas were the bits that were the best for you. I believe that went to adulthood. I was throwing away the rest. I looked it up in the first fleet arrived at where it says on the 20th of January. So I don't know where the 26 comes. Is that the day that they first they first hoisted a flag? Is that possibly

something like that? Maybe. Yeah, maybe. No wonder it's such a proud day for us as Australia. Whatever happened that day. Yeah, God, we love it. Yeah, and we really love to get drunk and wear flags about it, whatever it is. So Brady was sent to the Port Arthur Prison initially, which international, and this is a, not an exactly jolly start to the episode, but people internationally might know about poor Arthur because in

later years it became a tourist attraction and in 1996 there was a lone gunman massacre there which killed 35 people and that was what led to Australia basically having the gun laws that it does and banning all sorts of different guns and I've got to say it's worked out fine. I haven't needed a gun recently. That's true and that was a conservative government in Australia who brought that in at the time which is maybe the only way it was going to happen somehow. You know what? It's kind of true. Because yeah. Because if they hadn't been in power, they would have fought it. Yeah. I would have played it for politics, probably. Which is what opposition?

Which is what? What do you mind it? Like, maybe back then, I don't know, am I being nostalgic when I think that oppositions didn't necessarily block everything back in the day? I think I am. That's probably always been like it is now and politics has always been played, but there wasn't no. I think that God Whitlam might disagree with you Matt. Sorry. I think God Whitlam might take issue with you on that. Yeah. I remember any kind of conflict really at all. It was just sort of friendship and handshake most of the time. It was basically one party back then. Yeah, and they really meant party.

Oh, wow. So if you're unlucky, you're sent to the island of Australia, right? And if you're really unlucky, you're sent from there to the island of Tasmania. And if you caused too much trouble there, they send you to a tiny island on the West Coast in Macquarie Harbour called Sarah Island. And that's where during the day, this is on the west coast. Even today, the west coast of Tasmania is incredibly isolated. It gets what it's called the roaring 40s winds, which are,

it has some of the freshest air in the world because there are just winds that have been accelerating the entire way across the Atlantic Ocean until they get to the coast of Australia from South America. And it's extremely wild and extremely mountainous and rugged and very, very wet. And that's where we get hue and pine wood from. So, you don't know about hue and pine?

You guys know about hue and pine? I've heard of hue and valley. Is that something? Hue and valley? It's very relevant. Yes, that's where you get some of the hue and pine. Makes sense. That adds up.

You are sure. Is this the kind of area you would have done a trek on as a teenager for some sort of a charity or something? That's a feels like something you would have done. Absolutely right. This is right up that particular national park. Yes. That sort of, about a third of Tasmania is taken up with the South West National Park,

which is one of the biggest untouched rainforests in Australia. And yeah, Hugh and Pine grows there, it grows incredibly slowly, right? Thousands and thousands of year old trees, but it also has a natural oil in it, which makes, means that it never rots and it makes it the perfect material for making ships for. So they were getting this, this timber and it smells really nice as well. So you get a nice smelling boat, which I think would be very relevant after several months.

Yeah. And it only takes thousands of years to grow it. That's great. Exactly. Yeah. And so they decimated it really. Can't wait to lock those down. Oh.

I'll plan to seed. That'll be right. It's now illegal to cut down any human pine trees in Tasmania. But they still find old logs because it just never rots. They find old logs like buried in the dirt. Amazing. And they dig them up. And they use that.

So it could have been just lying there for hundreds of years. And it's still good. Wow. It never goes off. That's fascinating. Love that many wood report in the middle of this report. Yeah, wow. This is the whole reason for this report

so that I would get to talk about you in part. You've spotted me there. But you also mentioned a place called Sarah Island. Sarah Island, yes, thank you for getting me back on track. So Sarah Island, this is a very interesting name for an island, isn't it? But does she ever rot? Well, I think there were a few rotters there. Sorry, that's terrible. Yuck. Yeah. It's quite a nice bland name for an island, but this had a reputation as basically the worst penal colony in Australia.

It was the one, you know, you did not want to end up there. If you kept trying to escape from Port Arthur, they sent you there, right? And Brady was trying to escape, so they sent him there. But if you tried to escape from Sarah Island, which wasn't easy, because it was in the middle of this harbour, you know, and surrounded by this massive forest that you wouldn't be able to get through, even if you got to sure. If you tried to escape from Sarah Island, you were,

and I quote, the iroclaimables were imprisoned on a strip of rock called Pilot Island, to which they were forced to wade through the surf, carrying provisions upon their backs to see them through their turn. And even the cells carved out for them in the rocks, they were not protected from the drenching spray when the gales blew in from the ocean.

Right, so he was on an island, often island, often island, often island. What? Wow. If they could have found a smaller island to send you to off-pilot island, I'm sure I would have. But Bush could. Bush could have islands. So they. But Bushka Island. But Bushka Islands. But Bushka Islands. But Bushka

Prisons. Why is he, he doesn't sound like he's the worst to the worst though. Sounds like he's a likeable guy. He was a likeable guy and when he got to Sarah Island they were like this guy, he's such a hard worker. I think he's a good bloke, but what he was really always busy doing was trying to work out a way to escape. So he was very motivated to do that. But like, you know, people liked him, but, uh, yes, he, he, he wanted out. He did do it like, I forget that he did a pretty bad crime of maybe stealing a small picnic basket or forging for a hamper. I think it was a Chris co-hamper. Yeah. It's a Chris co-hamper that he gave to two 19 year olds. That's right. What a master. Ladies. So it's said to be impossible to escape from this island and it was from this penitentiary that Brady and 14 others made their escaped on the 7th of June, 1824. So the group stole a boat, right? They basically,

as the soldiers were coming ashore in a boat, I think the ships, the prison surgeon and some soldiers were coming ashore on a little boat, and they basically charged the boat, pushed the soldiers into the water, okay? So that their muskets got wet. I guess their guns got wet. They got wet as well. And then they kidnapped the surgeon. So some of them kidnapped the surgeon. And they were going to flog him, given him a damn good flogging. But he'd been really kind to Brady on the island. So Brady stopped them from basically beating up this surgeon. And this is apparently when he became the leader on the island. So Brady stopped them from basically beating up this surgeon. And this is apparently when he became the leader of the gang.

Flogium is an interesting phrase because I thought you meant sell him. You know, flogium lot. But you meant flogium has been hit him. No, no, no, I meant they were going to sell him off. And Brady said, no, no, no, he's been good to me. I'll keep him on as my private surgeon. No, they were gonna beat him. Yeah, right. And then they did. And this is back in the days where you talk about soldiers, they're like, you know, they're like little toy soldiers

with big tall hats and bright red jackets and they kinda ridiculous. They feel like they'd be easy to push over. Yeah. Yeah, very top heavy because of those, those tall hats. I don't know what, what these ones would have looked like. I think they would have been pretty rough themselves as well. Like it's, it's really hard to get to that. They can't grow their own provisions or anything there. It all has to be resupplied by C to boats to this prison. So every, like,

you know, and it's all just guys out there. Everyone would be filthy, everyone would stink. It would just be, I think it just horrible. Mm. Just horrible. So I also read that Brady's size and strength made him the undisputed leader of the gang. Oh, wow. And I wanted to know how tall he was. But they have this on his transportation record.

Would you like to guess how tall Brady was? Oh, he's so intimidatingly tall. I'd guess like what, six foot five or something? Yeah, close. I think back then, they were shorter back then. So I'm going to say five foot six. Really close, five foot five and a half. I'm bigger than that guy. I would have been the top dog on this ship. You would? That could have been Lord, he's a giant. Sit down, boys. And then I was like, how tall must everyone else have been? I looked it up in the average height of men born in 1800 in England was five foot five. So he had a half an inch on the maybe.

Wow. But maybe he was standing on a box or something like that. He was wearing those lift shoes. Yeah. Two more platforms shoes. What do you call that? A Caribbean heel or something? What do they call it? Cuban heel? It was the Cuban heels. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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just simply not get tattoos or possibly draw them on the skin. Yes. Change them all the time. Or get some of those ones that you put on with a sponge at the show. And then they were around. Photography hadn't been invented, but Sponge on Tatoo's had. At the time, Sponge on Tatoo technology was incredibly advanced, and it was one of the main forms of storytelling. They didn't have printing, but they had Sponge on Tatoo's. Is there people like to see this? I got this last week at the Royal Melbourne show.

Wow. Get around everyone. People like to see this. I got this last week at the Royal Melbourne show. Wow. Gather round, everyone. It's a duck on a skateboard. Fingerprints weren't used until 1910, you know, court case. Wow. In America. Yeah. 1910, wow.

It's late, isn't it? Yeah. Later than I would have thought, yeah. I would have thought Sherlock Holmes would be under that. Yeah. So if you wanted to escape from Macquarie Island, the way to do it was by boat, okay? From Macquarie Harbor.

Otherwise, you had to go inland from the West Coast through the mountains and the forests, and that's really, really rough trot. That is what Alexander Piers attempted to do twice. Have you ever heard of Alexander Pius? Yeah. The end of the name. Yeah.

You may also know him as the cannibal convict. No. No. He escaped from Sarah Island twice, and both times ate his fellow escopies to stay alive. No. The first time, they recaptured him and he said he'd eaten them and they assumed he was just saying that to cover for them having escaped into the bush. But the second time they caught him he still had their bits of their bones and fingers and stuff on him. And he said he'd eaten them in that time they believed him.

Wait, apparently what's wrong with our promise? Because they're not teachings about the cannibal convict. This is a really what else are they holding back from us? We learn about Don't worry. We learn about the cannibal convict in Tasmania. Okay. Pretty early on. They say don't tell the mainlanders,

but we eat people down here. Apparently, the second time they caught him, not only did he have bones and flesh of his fellow escapades on him, he still also had some of the food that they'd taken. So he'd started eating them pre-rub running out of the food. Yeah, it wasn't a desperation thing for him. It was a starting to look a bit sussed. He got a taste for it. Yeah. I'm saving that chicken for later.

Yep. Some of the foods are perishable cannibal. Yep. Now I'm going to save that yogurt for later. I want to eat this man here first. He's got 80 cans of soup and baked beans. I'm not a big fan of soup. Don't ever can opener. What are you going to do?

But Brady, I reckon there's a whole episode, by the way, in Alexander Pierce. I know I've spoiled it for you, but there's a lot there. Right. Good tip. Yucky bloke. I don't know if you do a lot of yucky stuff. I didn't actually start with this topic. I started with a different topic, which was about a mysterious unsolved murder in Dalesford

that I'd read about in a book while I was in an Airbnb, just like on the last page of a book, I'd mentioned this thing and I got a bit obsessed with researching. I thought, this is so fascinating. And the lead doctor who investigated it was called Dr. Do Little. And I thought, well, that's funny. That's already, that's gold. That's half an hour of loss right there.

The more I read about it, the more I was like, oh, no, this is just a murder, a woman who was very horribly murdered and started to make me depressed. So anyway, let's just laugh about the idea of a doctor who can speak to animals, doing the post-mortem, and move on. They'll have to go into any of the other details. So, but anyway, they escape by boat,

and nine days later they land in the Dirlant, which is the site of Hobart Town, which is the capital of the Tasmanian colony. And at once they set about an organized plan of bush ranging, Brady laid down the rules through his gang. They must neither injure the defenseless, normalist females, but could kill traitors, revenge, injuries, and take away anything that was likely to prove useful to them. I'm basing a lot of this on a book, by the way, from 1900 called The History of Australian bush ranging volume one by Charles White and you can find that on less on like project Gutenberg. But that has lots of detail about

all of these early bush rangers. He does sound like a gentleman so far. Yeah, he's laying down some rules and they seem reasonable. And they would normally, those sort of rules, commonly bush rangers wouldn't be following that kind of gentlemanly code. That's pretty unlikely. You've already been transported. You're feeling probably pretty hard done by the community. And some of them, they weren't all petty criminals. Some of them were much rougher and more unpleasant. And if they weren't rougher and unpleasant, they probably were pretty rougher and unpleasant after they'd spent all this time in the prison. There wasn't much focus on reform in the prison system at the time.

Yeah, I mean, it certainly feels like if someone keeps trying to escape, maybe sit down and have a chat to them. Yeah. You know, you're really running from. Yeah, what's up? Is it the prison? The prison. The prison.

Yeah. Can we, can we, from what's the activities here for you to make us stay? You know? Yeah. Can we, can we, just hold on. Some activities here for you to make you stay palatable. Hmm. What kind of games you like? You like card games? I can get you back your cards. There's a sign-up sheet for the table tennis.

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Sir George Arthur, he's a very unpleasant man. Look up his career, he's involved in a lot of really bad stuff in a lot of different British colonies. And he was a real, real hard-ass, very interested in seeing convicts beaten, very interested in seeing convicts hung. So at the point, at the time he had arrived in 1820, no convicts had ever been hung. When you say hung, you mean hangrod, or you're talking about having a big shop, is that what you mean? Very interesting seeing these. He was very into...

Unconvicts. Penile augmentation for the... Penile colonies. Is that what that comes from? He had basically, he'd misread the letter on the post he thought, this is hardly a penal call at all. He's it hanged, hanged. He liked seeing convicts hanged.

Oh, I think this is one of those ones that my dad would always correct me on as a kid. Yeah, I think hanged is correct, but it feels wrong. So you say whatever's comfortable, Eric. It's also now that I'm saying out loud, we that my dad had to correct me on that, often enough, as we do. Yes, but once a week. But by the time he left eight years later,

256 conflicts had been hanged. So he was pretty keen on that. Yeah. And about a week after their escape, Governor Arthur issued the following proclamation, the lieutenant governor feels it necessary to announce that the party of prisoners who escape from a quarry harbour have again passed into the interior. His honour begs the most earnest manner, in the most earnest manner, to call upon all settlers in their respective

districts to enter into increased zeal and determination into measures for the apprehension of these robbers. To the most common understanding, not laboring under the miserable depression of personal danger means will be presented after a robbery has been committed of tracing the movements of the depredators and so on. He goes on and on and on and on and on this message that he's sending out, basically saying these guys are real bad and we want to get them and there will be a reward for you. I don't know how he got this message out. I guess he's

sent out horse riders to different groups or something like that. At that time, they're about after a call, a seven minute message. Off the top. In summary, we don't mind if you kill them. Yeah, they'd go into about a month of rehearsal beforehand. There was an understanding. Just in case people got sick. Yeah, exactly. So pretty, so, but pretty soon the Brady gang, they steal some guns from a retired military officer

and who meant, but he did manage to capture some of them and they were immediately placed on trial and hanged. So about four of them, I think, got caught and hanged straight away. But the others got away and the settlers were immediately very freaked out because they're convict servants. So this is the other thing. The convicts aren't all in the prisons, right? They're sent out to all different, all the different houses and properties around Tasmania as basically, you know, servant labor. They'd be sent out with a few soldiers to keep an eye on them, but they're chained up and they're made to

quarry, rock, and build buildings and that sort of thing. But they're not free and they definitely don't like being treated in this way. So all the settlers are terrified that this gang is going to show up and all their convicts are going to turn against them and kill them. Indeed, this more or less happens. Whenever Brady shows up at a property, the convicts are desperate to join his gang. Even those who didn't join them were still helping them by like passing on information and giving them supplies and that sort of thing. So all the population of convicts are basically on their side. There's about 5,000 settlers and probably more convicts on the island than there are set. Is it so you were saying before? I always sort of believe that idea that a lot of the convicts were

in trouble for stealing a loaf of bread. That's sort of the stereotype. It's a bigger mix than that. Some there are some violent criminals that's sort of the stereotype. You reckon it's a bigger mix than that. Some, there are some violent criminals that were sent down as well. Yeah, it was this kind of, it was this mandatory thing where if you got a second sentence, so sort of like mandatory sentencing, if you were arrested and sentenced more than once, you were automatically transported.

And I think in that it like scooped up people who just done one little thing and also, you know, or done two minor things, but also if you've done much more unpleasant things. It was the next step down from hanging basically. So if they didn't give you capital punishment, you'd get transportation.

So if you'd murdered someone, and then a little while later, forgotten to pay for some bread. And you go. That's it. They let you go on the murder, but they say, now you don't do anything else again. Oh, I'm out.

You put your best behavior. We will be watching you. And then you steal the bread and they say, we are really disappointed in you. Yeah, and that's worse. That's worse to me, isn't it? Mm-hmm. Oh, just transport me for life, just hang me.

Yeah, so you've got all these hardened prisoners around you all the time, right? And you don't want hardened prisoners. You want softened prisoners. You want soft. You want some moisturiser, yeah. You exactly. Yes, beautiful, smooth prisoners. And a lot of them new Brady always gang from Port Arthur. One example is that they're out ranging in the bush, right? As they do, and they come across a guy that they know working on a farm, and he says, oh, great.

So he's a convict, he's out working in the field or whatever. He says, great, I'm just about to take dinner to the soldiers. And if you come in after me, they'll all be sitting down with their guns in the corner, and if you come in after me, they'll all be sitting down with their guns in the corner and then you can just hold them up and rob them and I'll run away with you and they absolutely do exactly that and tie up all the soldiers, steal everything that's not nailed down and this guy runs away and joins their gang. Apparently the word is that two weeks later some settlers caught up with that guy when he was asleep under under a tree and just shot him in the head before he

had a chance to run away or anything like that. So the consequences are pretty dire if you're caught as well, but everyone's so desperate to get away. It doesn't seem like it, you know, it seems worth the risk to them. But the gang is getting braver and braver, right? They're them. But the gang is getting braver and braver, right? They're robbing, they're getting all the stuff that they need, robbing stealing food, stealing clothes, that sort of thing. And they get braver and braver. And after a while, braiding gets to be a bit of a larykin, bit of an Aussie larykin. and the Governor Arthur puts out a notice saying, it is occasioned the lieutenant governor much concern that the continued outrages of the two prisoners, McCabe and Brady, so McCabe is another member of the gang, have led to the death of another settler. I'll tell you about that a bit more later on. His honour

has directed the reward of 25 pounds, shall be given for the apprehension of either of these men, and that any prisoner giving such information may directly lead to that that will directly lead to the apprehension may receive a ticket of leave. So ticket of leave basically means that you're pardoned immediately from imprisonment and you can go and become a free settler. Wow. Get your own farm. You know, leave your life. your own farm, leave your life. And three days after he put that out there, this note, after this note has been circulated, Brady nails his own notice to the door of the Royal Oak in at Crossmarch, dated Mountain Home, April 20th, 1825. It has caused Matthew Brady much concern that such a person known as Sir George Arthur is

at large. 20 gallons of rum will be given to any person that will deliver his person unto me. I also caution John Priest that I will hang him for his ill treatment of Mrs. Blackwell at Newtown, M. Brady. So the governor puts out a notice for a reward for the capture of Brady and Brady puts out his own reward for the capture of the government. Bit of a classic, you know. They said he had a good hand. Yeah, beautifully written, beautiful. Oh, that's fantastic. Yeah, yeah. And so you've noticed in there, he also was threatening some guy who had mistreated a woman in there.

The other thing about Brady was that in the context of the time, not a total creep to women. He seemed pretty good. Here's another quote, yet it cannot be said that the gang was brutal or even savage, and they were most scrupulous in their treatment of females. As even the Hobart town papers acknowledged, one man who had asked a servant girl for a kiss, one gang member who had asked a servant girl for a kiss, was at once knocked down by their leader.

And one of the plundered settlers afterwards said that Brady's first word was, other any ladies in the house, and receiving a reply in the affirmative? He said, then tell them to get up and let them dress themselves and go into one room and no one shall molest them. So he's keeping them looking after women, which is good. And so McCabe, who was the other prisoner who was mentioned in the notice from the governor, he apparently offered violence to a woman. So Brady shot him through the hand, disarmed and thrashed him and kicked him out of the gang. And McCabe then began robbing by himself, and he was very quickly caught and hanged. Oh wow. So yeah, of course we have to ask who started that story. So it could probably not macape, probably input that story about. So it was either the lady,

in which case we could maybe believe it, or it was probably Brady himself. So we don't know. Like, you know, they're probably all self-mathologizing. Yeah. To a certain extent these guys. And some of these stories might be totally made up. But it's nice to think that at least someone in history wasn't a creep to women, isn't it? It's nice to just imagine this one. But even the fact that he thought, even if he had made it up,

even the fact that he thought that it was a positive thing to make up is a positive in itself. Yeah. There you go. That's progress. That's how he wants to be remembered as not a creep to women. The fact that he was capable of imagining not being a creep is a huge step. At Nordstrom, you can shop the best holiday gifts for everyone you love. All in one place.

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and it's great reading all of the names of all these places that were just places I would just drive past. I'm in through Surrell. I'm in here. I got two good op shops and they got an ice cream shop. We used to get ice cream there all the time. So good. Yeah.

So they attacked a house at Pitwater in prisoning the owner and his servants and they decided to stay the night, right? So they're that confident. And then it was a bit wet the next day, so they decided to stay the next day as well. And then in the evening, two visitors arrived, Mr. Walter Bethune and Captain Bunster. And what's Brady Rose, Captain Bunster? Captain Bunster. Also Bunster. Also Walter Bethune is amazing. Incredible.

And Captain Bunster and Brady rose to the occasion. He called a groom to take their horses. To marry them, obviously. And conducted the men inside, assured them that there was nothing to fear and ordered dinner for them. So he's now got the servants at the house. Just get over it, that's good. Wow.

Dr. Can I get a breath out of order from the same place. So he was like, you can go from the pizza place and you can get chicken. Yeah, you would have you won. I'll do a couple of different orders if you like. No worries. Like it was just nothing to him. Yeah, yeah. Two delivery fees. I don't care. I don't care. Yeah, no worries. Whatever you like. Got half and half pizza. That's an extra $1.50. It doesn't mean anything. No problem. Because I want you to be happy. Andy, you've just made me instantly hungry for pizza. Half an hour. I don't know.

You didn't even describe any toppings at all, but just the idea of half and half pizza made my mouth water. A pizza that has two halves, you have my attention. That's a whole pizza. Two halves. That's a whole pizza. Oh, so they're all having dinner, right?

And he's just chatting, entertaining people around the dinner table. And eventually he gets bored, right? The conversation apparently flagged. So Brady decides that in live and things, he's going to go and capture the surreal jail. So he tells his guests, and now we're going to go and capture the surreal jail. So he takes all the 18 prisoners with him to the town

at about 10 o'clock at night, and they reached the jail most opportunity as the soldiers had been out in the rain all day looking for the bush rangers, and they were just cleaning their guns. So there was a rush, the wet guns were easily seized, the inmates of the jail were freed, the soldiers and the pit water contingent took their place in the cells, and then they propped up a log against the door and dressed it up to look like a soldier and headed off into the hill. They dressed up a log. They dressed up a log to look like a soldier.

And it went. With that long hat, you know, it's a very slow log. And the log was huge. And the log was huge and pine. So it was never going to drop us out. So it's, that's right. It's still sitting there to this day. Nobody's been in, nobody's looked into this.

And it smells great as well. That would be the real, that God smells amazing. Yeah, that's the giveaway, because everyone else smells like absolute shit. Now, obviously, this gets the attention of the governor and he doubles the reward and basically it's now on for young and old, okay? Anyone gets the attention of the governor and he doubles the reward and basically, it's now on for young and old, okay?

Anyone in the colony can enroll themselves as special constable now, apparently, whatever that means. You can basically declare yourself a cop. You're going to send you like a little sheriff's badge? I'll send you a badge. Maybe a hat. Yeah, that'd be cool. Maybe a sticker. Maybe it's just an online e-sertificate. Or something like that. All right. That'd be cool. Maybe a sticker. Maybe it's just an online e-certificate.

I was not sure. Yeah. All right. And he's got soldiers hiding out in wagons and they're basically driving them along through like very vulnerable bush tracks and hoping that they'll get attacked by Brady. And they'll be able to catch him.

But Brady also, Brady has informants everywhere so he knows and he's always one step ahead. There is a story that eventually he does get caught after he stays overnight at a friend's cabin, right? And the friend basically betrays him. Yes. But the story is that the soldiers come, the guy friend goes and gets some soldiers,

the soldiers come and they get him and gets some soldiers, the soldiers come and they get him while he's asleep and they tie him up. And then they go to sleep. And when they wake up in the morning, he's used the fire in the cabin to burn through his ropes. And there's just burned ropes there. He's escaped. He burned through the ropes.

People never think of that. I was trying to cut him. Well, they did. It seems, it seems crazy, right? Because you've got the ropes there on your hands or whatever. You've probably got to get your hands down into the fire. Yeah. That's for long. Better than being hung or hanged.

It is better than that, yeah. That one would be in hung, Andy. Nothing better than being hung. Am I right? I don't know, Jess. Are you right? I don't know. I'm truly unsure. I'm not sure either, I'm not sure. So Brady, the guy who betrayed Brady, he eventually catches up with him, right?

And he kills him. And that is the only guy that is the only death that is actually known to be attributed to Brady. He kills his friend who betrayed him. Some sorry. And that was part, but remember that was one of the rules that he laid down at the start. He was allowed to avenge traders. So he's just sticking by the rules. Apparently, the guy, the guy, he catches up, he comes and finds this guy in some other cabin, right? And he sits down and has a cup of tea with him, right? Just looking at him across the table and holding his gun. And the guy knows exactly what's going to happen.

And then he says, all right, I'll give you a head start. You can run towards that tree. And as soon as he turns around, he just shoots him in the head. That's kind of a nice, I'm doing it, I guess. I guess gave him that hope. But also did it quicker than it seemed. So it wasn't like he didn't have to panic for ages. Guy killed. Did he agree to this rule? Ignorance of the rules is no. Just. Just oh no. I said I'm allowed to kill people who I want to. So it's fine. I think that should hold up more in the court of law.

Yep, in the court of law. Everyone's got your rules, Judge. Well, I've got my rules too. And they differ from yours slightly. So let's agree to disagree. I've got a hammer at home. You know, we're all, we're the same basically. I declare you guilty, Judge. I mean, it is ridiculous when you're about it.

Who are you to judge me, judge? The crime of double standards. So eventually he decides he's sick of Tasmania and he wants to go to the mainland, which is a common problem that Tasmania still has holding on to its young, bright people. I see a lot of myself in Brady. Yeah. In this regard. You outgrew Tasmania as how you felt.

It's right. After killing a man, it was on the run for a murder. Yeah. So they steal a boat to sail to Tasmania, but it's too rough to get across to the mainland. But it's too rough to get across Bass straight. This is the thing I've also done. It's sail across Bass straight.

And I can guarantee it is very rough. One of the the senior Hobart yacht race is the roughest, roughest ocean race in the world. I didn't know that. I don't know. It was the roughest, wow. Well, it might not be true. It is now. I'd love to know the scale you use for roughness. scale you use for roughness. That's the grave, graves, Robert's scale. From a smooth as a do-go-in on introduction, all the way up to as rough as this analogy. Why do you not the only one who's sailed across the Bastard? I caught the Spir Tasmania there and back a decade or so ago. Spirit of Tas. Just for a while. Beautiful.

Oh yeah. We were sitting in the bar. We were watching, but I had my video camera there back in the old day. We have a camcorder. And I was filming us. We were just drinking in the bar and I'm like watching it back a few weeks later. It was half an hour or so and I'm like how deep into this trip are we? And then the camera pans across and we're... Ah, the open ocean.

Smell that sea brews. But yes, so he turns back, right? And I think he's getting a bit... at this point, he starts to get a little bit reckless. So he sends word to the common don't at Lonsestin, Lonsestin being the town in the north of Tasmania. With the bush rangers compliments, he sends them word that he proposes to Rob Mr. Dry's house, which is about a mile out of a long system, and attack the long system jail on the same night. And so the story is that the soldiers that got this message basically thought it was a joke.

Yeah, right. But it wasn't a joke. So he attacks Mr. Dry's house, okay? And the gang robs the place while apparently Brady entertained the ladies in the parlor with amusing stories and even a sentimental song to his own accompaniment on the piano. And then a servant escapes and notifies the soldiers in town.

So they send a posse from the jail out to Mr. Dry's house, and meanwhile, while they're gone, the other half of Brady's gang attacks the jail. And they get to Dry's house, and there's a bit of a shootout, and but their whole gang gets away. Oh, wow. Yes, but they didn't succeed in breaking anyone

out of the jail this time. But now he's just sort of just taking a piss at the end. And the governor now is really, really getting angry, right? And he ups the reward to 300 guineas, or 300 acres of land, free of rent, and was offered up for the capture while the offer of a free pardon and free passage to England was made to any prisoner who captured them. And again, I had to look up what that is, but it was a gold coin. The return passage to England would have been an enormous incentive for the complex, because

most of them never made it home. Even if they were released, and a lot of them were after seven to 10-year sentences, only a tiny, tiny fraction, only a handful of them ever made it back to England, because they just couldn't afford it. It was just such a huge journey. So being sent back there would have been a big incentive. And the governor himself took to the field in search.

And now even people who were supportive before Brady were starting to turn on him. Just because the incentive is just so great. And it gets so crazy that the settlers and the settlers are so worried that the other prisoners will break out of the prison and join Brady's gang that they petition the governor to just hang everyone in the prison. Whoa! Yeah, and they don't do that, but they do get a bit hanging crazy. And in one like one court session, 37 prisoners are sentenced to be hanged just in one day. So they're really going nuts.

Wow. Yes, but Brady is not slowing down, and he's just doing raids pretty much every day, burning down rich people's houses and destroying their crops if they cross him. And he's got a bit of an aesthetic now. He's got these two white stallions that he stole from Mr. Dry's house,

and he's got the hat of the corporal that they shot off when they were having the shootout at Mr. Dry's house. So he wears that. And he always keeps himself well dressed. So he would have been one of the best dressed people in the colony, riding around on his white horse with Colonel Balfa's hat.

Whoa. I'm now imagining Napoleon. Yeah. Yeah. And he sounds like he was a semi-hyped swelp. And fully... I think that is the thing about... Not trying to be hidden at all anymore, either.

Like a white horse is so distinctive. So, it's getting very confident. Exactly. When the bush rangers were going down the Tamar, that's the river in the north of Tasmania, they captured Captain White of the Duke of York in his boat and Captain Smith, late of the Brutus, who was with him. Captain Smith was mistaken for Colonel Balfour.

They thought it was Colonel Balfour and they knocked him down, but discovering their mistake, they apologized. They then made Captain White go down upon his knees and were going to shoot him, but Captain Smith interfered and saved his life on representing to them the misery that it would inflict on his children.

During the night, Captain Smith and White were allowed to depart and they made the best of their escape all the way to Lonseston. So, they're not totally heartless still. But more and more people are turning against him, and some soldiers manage to separate Brady from the gang, and he's betrayed by an ex-convict who wants the pardon, and he gets in the, and there's another shootout,

and Brady gets shot in the ankle as he's trying to escape. Okay, but he does get away. But now things are pretty bad for him because he's on his own and he's- That's where the Brady's ankle comes from, isn't it? That will know to Brady's ankle. My fatal flaw, my Brady's ankle.

Mm-hmm. I thought it was a type of, a type of pastry, a Brady's ankle. Just grab us a Brady's ankle, thanks. Yeah, and a Chuckie milk. Yeah, Chuckie milk. Yeah, a nippy's. Yeah, a nippy's. You said balfa as well.

I know the name balfa is a pie brand, balfa's pies. I wonder if that's named in honor of that guy you just mentioned. Donald Balfour. That's him, too, yes. You familiar with their work, Dave? Balfour's Pies? I don't know if I've had a Balfour. Is that a Tasmanian pie? Yeah, maybe it is. You're about to get a name that you will recognize, though,

because Brady's still on the run by himself in the Western tears, what a very rough, isolated part of Tasmanian. And that's when a bloke called John Batman, John Batman decides he is going to try and catch him. Right. Okay. So this is Batman, the same Batman who went on to found Melbourne and is, as far as I can tell, one of the worst assholes in the history of history. And it's only starting to come to life, isn't it? Because there's a lot of things in Melbourne named after him and people are like, we shouldn't have these things.

It's a fun name for sure, but he was an awful person. No, it's a very fun name and I was so excited when I was like, he's being hunted down by Batman, Batman. You know, this is just like that cartoon series, Batman or Batman. But then I remembered anything about Batman. And then the more I went on to read about him, the more unpleasant he seemed.

So he was heavily involved in the genocide of the Paloa people in Tasmania. And although, you know, and like, he seems really bad now. You've more you read about him, all the stuff he did. But then listening to the Frontier Wars podcast, there's another narrative going on, which is, it's really interesting because they, a lot of historians paint the battles between indigenous people and, you know, the settlers as being just between isolated settlers or individuals, your families and the indigenous people.

But actually, there's evidence, quite suppressed evidence, and quite hidden evidence, that actually soldiers were much more involved than a lot of our stories tell us. And it's because like, it was actually a war. It was just an under-cleared war. And they didn't, the people out here, the governors and that sort of thing, didn't want the British back home to know that they were having this war. And so they didn't keep records of a lot of stuff. And it was presented as this, you know, all this isolated battles between, you know, free settlers and indigenous tribes. But actually it was a campaign involving soldiers in a way that I didn't even realize. But that being said, Batman wasn't a soldier. He was, he's a quote from his neighbor, right? His neighbor was John Glover, who was a Tasmanian painter.

He's some very nice paintings. He says, Batman was the thief, a liar, a rogue, and a cheat, and a murder a rogue, and a cheat, and a murder of blacks and the vileest man I have ever known. Whoa. So that's who founded Melmond, everyone. He originally called it Batmania. What?

So we could have been named after him. Which makes it sound like an absolute maniac. Just name it after me. Yes. Batmania. I read some reports that described him. He was like, he was good in the bush, I think, like he was, you know, capable in the bush of surviving in the bush. But he was very vain and jealous and angry and, yeah, extremely, extremely violent. But he's now chasing Brady. And one day he

a spider man of dejected. Do you say spider man? Spider man. Spider man. He's the evil coming together. Yeah. Yeah. It was a crossover episode and cost a lot of money to get the rights. He aspired. Aspired. I'm quoting ancient old English. He aspired a man. He aspired a man of dejected care-worn aspects slowly

limping along through the bush with the aid of a cut-sappling and evidently in great pain, suddenly the man caught sight of Batman, and at once the stick was thrown aside and his gun was on his shoulder. With a finger on the trigger Brady called out, are you a soldier, officer? For soldiers with his abhorrence, and Batman was wearing a frot coat and a foraging cap. I'm no soldier, Brady was the reply. I'm John Batman, surrender. There is no chance for you for a moment or two, Brady communed with itself and then said,

you are right, Batman, my time has come. I will yield to you because you are a brave man. So this is the story that we have from Batman. You are the biggest man I have ever met. Yeah. I will yield to only you for my respect for you is so large and you are so well-hungered. I will only be hanged by a man so well-hungered. If you want to feel a bit better about Batman, he died, I think, one of the most horrible deaths I've ever read about.

Oh, good. Which is that he had syphilis and basically his face rotted off. Yeah. So, yeah. It's real, it's real grip. Is that why he put on the mask? At the age of 38.

Yeah, right. So, yeah. He came to Melbourne, he became quite rich, but he, you know, and he married, but then his nose fell off and his wife left him and he died. Really, really unpleasant death. So Brady's been captured, and here's a quote from a newspaper article that was published several years later. It was natural that his capture should be received with the demonstrations of joy by

the populace, yet strange to say hundreds of persons, including ladies, openly expressed sympathy with him. Some of the latter, freely shedding tears at the recital of the sufferings of the poor man whose chivalrous treatment of all females was one of the distinguishing characteristics of his career in the bush. So they petition the governor, they try and get the governor to let him off, but he is sentenced to death. And here's another quote.

His cell was besieged with visitors, and his table was loaded with presents, baskets of fruit, bouquets of flowers, and dishes of confectionery prepared by his fair admirers were tended in abundance to the jailer for his distinguished captive. The last moment came, the dramatic scene was maintained to its close. Pinyan, he stood on the scaffold before the dense mass of spectators who cheered him for his courage and grieved bitterly for his fate.

He received the consolations of the Roman Catholic fate. He bade a familiar adieu to the gentleman about him, and he died more like a patient, a patient martyr than a felon murderer. So apparently, he was on the gallows with a convict called Jeffries, who had a reputation as a mass murderer and a cannibal, and also an informant, and Brady was really indignant about being hanged alongside an informant. Hannibal fine informant. Mass murderer. Okay.

Whatever. I'll give you that. But a sniff. Informant. Hmm. I've got to get a hand with a snitch. No, I have to hang with a snitch. Yes, you know, he kept his, his, whatever his twisted morals were to the end.

I've read that some historians say that his actions were much more those of a rebellion than like just a crime spree. And it's true that a conflict in Australia got a pretty raw deal. But I don't know. I like, would you, would you regard him as a, as a rebel? Oh, yeah. Definitely, definitely. Yeah.

A rebel with a cause sounds like it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And a hat. Oh, yeah. A rebel with a hat. And a horse. His wife horse.

Yeah. And that is the story of Matthew Brady, gentlemen, Bush Ranger. Oh, great story. How old was he when he was hanged? 28. Oh, wow. And he had been, oh, do you want to guess how long he was on the run for? How long all that took?

It sounded like a couple of years, maybe. It was 21 months. So. Yeah, right. That's amazing to be on the run for that length of time. And kind of not even really hiding that much. Yeah. Well, you know, Tasmania is a small state

by Australian standards, but it's like at this time, you know, there's only 10,000 people living there, you know, and it's, it is so wild it's only been settled for about 20 years at the time. So you could, you know, you could just run off into the hills and no one would be able to follow you or follow you. And because he had so many of the convicts on his side, yeah, I think he just got away with it, man. It's all about networking, isn't it? Yeah, networking, yeah.

It's who you know. Cool. That's what I was saying. I think great story I'd never heard of him. Me neither. Yeah, I came across him a couple of years ago, just saw the mention of his name and the fact that he'd taken the Cerelle J. I was like, that's a cool story. And I think, just saw the mention of his name and the fact that he'd taken the Cerelle J.

I was like, that's a cool story. And I think this feels like the sort of thing that you would make a movie of. Yeah. Because there's that underdog and that, you get to cast him as some handsome well-dressed, yet short man who is a footballer. Tom Cruise.

Thank you. OK. All right. Thank you. Okay. All right. Top crew. We're going for an Aussie casting. Surely, Errol Flynn must have thought about it back in the day. Hollywood's own Tasmanian. Yes, who went to my school.

Did he? High school. Yeah. But he also went to almost every high school in Tasmanian because he was constantly getting expelled for doing naughty sexy things. But we can't even feel good about Errol Flynn because he was also a total asshole. Damn it. Extremely unpleasant man.

Is that a Tasmanian thing? Or was he like unpleasant in a Tasmanian way? You mean? I just wonder. I mean, it's just we're learning about these Tasmanians, and they're often nice to be unpleasant. So, well, well, to be fair, Batman did, wasn't originally from Tasmanian,

and he did go on to found it. So, that's fair. Yeah. Let's not go towering with brush. I do enjoy how you use the euphemism of unpleasant a lot to describe like thing. Did I say that a lot? Well, just anything that is the other side of awful, you just, I love the understatement of unpleasant.

Yeah, because it contains the word pleasant. So if you want to, you can just focus on that. Yeah. Really softens the blow. That was so good. And he thanks so much for coming to tell us that story. I know you've got to run before we go on to everyone's favorite section of the show, the fact-crotal question, et cetera, section. But before you go, just one more time, for people who don't maybe didn't fully get how big and important your work on Mac Murray, do you want to just describe it one more time?

Yes. It's my engineering comedy presentation, but it's not about engineering. We play two stupid people who think that their genius is trying to rebuild the world in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. If you go to sospresents.com, you can get our live show performed without any of the annoying audience laughter that you would normally get if you came in sort of live. So you can just enjoy it in peace and just fill it fill the room with your own. Own laughter. Yeah. And it sounds like it probably sounds a bit high for Luton maybe.

And you probably would there would be extra laughs if you are an engineer I I'd say, but I watched it as someone who actually hates engineers and I still loved it very much, I found it very, very funny and yeah, it actually almost made me maybe want to rethink my lifelong opinions on engineers that were formed in my university days. I watched it as someone with a hatred of Alistair from my virtual. And while it didn't, didn't fully turn me around on my feelings to him, I still managed to enjoy the show. I think one of the real, and one of the great,

one of the great bonuses is hearing Andy talk in a funny voice for a whole hour. For a long time. Yeah. I really committed to that voice and I think I'm more or less managed to keep it up. Yeah. Yeah. Terrible for my throat and vocal cords, but yeah, that's what you got to do.

So funny. If you're not willing to write funny enough material, you've got to be prepared to do a really silly voice. Yeah. And that's my promise to you. So, and so once people get to stream, they can watch it, you know, every day for us their life, if they want to, is that kind of true? Correct. And it's, I think it's very affordable. It's less than $10. That's fine. You're basically giving it away. What are either gentlemen, comedian?

That's me. Thanks so much for joining us, Andy. And people can also find your podcast, obviously, two in the thing tank and your stupid old Andy on Twitter. That's right. We make lots of funny short sentences and just put them out for the world to enjoy. Like a gentleman would. Thanks, Matt. Thanks everybody for having me. I love you. And now it's time for everyone's favourite section of the show, the fact Quotal Question section which I believe has a little jingleo something like this. Facts Quotal Question Ding. He always remembers the ding although that time I...

He barely remembered. I'm not sure if he did. I just wanted everyone to have a panic a little bit. Well I did. I think I had a little panic. I just wanted everyone to panic a little bit. Well, I panic. I did. I think I had a little panic in my underpants, if you know what I mean. Oh, no. No.

From a Wade. Oh, a Wade in your underpants. You did a panic Wade. I did a panic Wade. Yes. Sure. So to get involved in this, you go to patreon.com. search to go on pod and you get involved on this

Sydney Shamburg Deluxe Memorial Edition package level and then you get to give us a fact a quote or a question that I'll read them out on the show we do for each week and you also get to give yourself a title. Firstly this week this one comes from Zach Dobran who's given himself the title of official promoter of the pod to high school students in Virginia. Wow. Okay. Very niche, but a very important role.

Virginia creamy country. No, that's Vermont. Vermont. But it's on that side. I imagine it's not that, not that big a drive to go and get a sweet sweet creamy. And I believe creamy, creamy creamy. Virginia is one of the original states. It's not one of the oldest ones

Yes And Zach has given us a quote and this is his quote Day one it was a quote by me Matt Stewart You are talking What were you talking about? I like to be because there were listeners you said I knew what you meant And I like that because it just everyone who said, I knew what you meant. And I liked that because everyone was able to put on their own meaning. So it's fantastic.

Oh, I can't remember what episode that was in, but I just had a brain fade. Probably maybe a year ago now. I don't, I have no concept of time. It could have been five years ago. No idea at all, but that could say, these are truly words to live by and an inspiration to all.

Thank you. Great. Well said. Thanks, Zach. The next one comes from David Loring, who's given himself the title of executive director of party tricks that take a lot of effort and impress very few. So you kind of want, you want the other way around. Yeah. That's what he's in charge of. So and David is giving us a fact and that fact is the original Nokia SMS tone is more SMS dot dot dot dash dash dot dot dot dot

I had no idea that's a great fact That's Jess is that fun? Yeah, that's a fun fact. I was about to say it And then realize my position Your position is grim facts. Was that a grim fact? No I want to hear us with a few good grim facts in this episode mainly about Batman And Australia just having a fucking dark past. And present. The next thank you so much David Loring. The next one comes from Nathan Damon, who has given himself the title of Matt Stewart stunt

double. That's great. Do you need a third person for a stunt ass or do you do your own ass work? No, I do my own ass work. Yeah. Great work. Nice. Nice. I've been doing Bulgarian split squats to get myself ready. Get my ass in the right shape. You do six months of work for six seconds of screen time. I love it. Six seconds. please don't linger that long. That would seem like an eternity. Just a flash, just a little flash of point. But six of a second maybe. No, no, I want the full six seconds, please.

I'm the director here. With no real context, it's just... Yeah. People are like, what the hell? This was a high-speed movie. Was it a butt? Did we really even see him in the shower? No dialogue for six seconds?

I know just a close up on his ass. Just the ass. Why pushed up against the shower screen door? I just want, we got around from there. We got to leave. Eee, eee, eee. Eee. What's an ass squashed ass on it?

No, that's the chop. There's a squash frog isn't it? What's that? Is that an arse going to name? I don't know. Dave, you might have just started a new, only craze. It's going to sweep the nation. Sweep the nation's bathrooms. I imagine people are trying to do it at home and they're like, oh, but I only have a shower curtain. Just don't know. like, oh, but I only have a shower curtain. Just don't know.

So Nathan Damon has given us a fact as well. And his fact is there's only one letter that doesn't appear in any US state name. Ooh, Dave, any guesses? Uh, X. It's not X. No, Texas. Hmm, cute.

It is cute. What I'm bought. Hey Dave, what's this? What's this I got here for? What's that? What's that, what a present for? No, Texas. Hmm. Cute. It is cute. What I'm bought. Hey, Dave. What's this? What's this I got here for? What's that? What's that?

What's that? What's that? Dave, please describe the gesture, just as... I'm just holding up a finger. It looks like it's bleeding. Yeah. Okay. Who is this one?

That's how much fury she has for your Dave. She's sticking you up a bloody middle finger. And we've got one here from Vinny Bonadonna to close us out this week. Great name Vinny Bonadonna. Absolutely. Cracked it. Who we've heard from before. I mean, we've heard from, well, most of these people before,

but Vinny Bonadonna, what a name. Given himself the title of the Greyhound. Ooh, I love that. Sounds pretty badass. That is so badass. And he's also given us a fact. Bring in the Greyhound. Bring in the Greyhound.

Call the Greyhound. Not the fact, right? No questions this week, which is... Anyways, we're getting a lot of questions like this. It's good to have a bit of a mix up with a bunch of facts. So this one from Vinny is the city of Chicago's nickname, the windy city. Ah, the windy city. Chicago is not based on the weather in the city. The moniker derives from the shady politicians who are blowing

wind when they speak out of their mouths or full of hot air and Vinny Bonadonna is from Chicago. He says, I learned this when I was about 13 now living in Las Vegas. I made a subtle joke to my dad about how windy it is here in this city compared to Chicago and then my dad told me this. There could be some debate on the meaning of the nickname though. Thank you guys for making cool stuff. I'm grateful for it and a bonus quote. Life happens wherever you are, whether you make it or not. And that's from Uncle Auro. Thank you Vinny.

There you go, windy city. Not so windy. Yeah, the windy city. I was assumed that it was more like what it said it was. Yeah, we take things so literally, you know, you need to take a step back every now and then. Yeah, every now and then. So that brings us to everyone's other favorite part of the show where we think if you were

our patrons, if you're more of our patrons. And these great patrons are on the probably arse prod level. Or is it DB Cooper? How do I still not know this? I asked, we just don't need to say it. Okay. I should just not say it. Is that what you're saying? But I just got a patron and they can work it out. Well, you know, is that isn't necessarily the case because people don't necessarily always work it our tape and I think me being confusing about it here is helpful. That's what we're steering on in the right direction. So, if I can kick it off, I just what kind of game do you want to play with these names? Well, it's a tough one. I was thinking, you know, how he was sort of called like the Gentleman Bush Ranger. Can we give them some kind of title? Oh, yeah. The gentleman, something else or the something bush ranger or anything, I guess.

Anything. I love that. You can show me what you mean when I... Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. From Indicott in New York State United States, Austin Horst. Great name.

Great name. The... It is a real great name. Gentle... ...truck driver. Okay. Oh, right. That's nice. That's nice.

The gentle truck driver, Austin Horst, from... Gentle on the roads. Yeah. So, I think, so it can just be anything anything does it have to have gentle in it? No I love it the gentle Truck driver Austin horse. Thanks so much for your support I'd also love to thank from Bristol in Great Britain

Marisol Forbes. Oh, I think that we met Marisol at our shows in Bristol last year. And she was the artist that made us all a little thing. I saw mine in my sitting in my bedside table drawer, my saints badge because the badge bit fell off the back. So now it's just a beautiful little keepsake sitting near my head when I sleep. She made me a little pie key K-ring, which I really do. Do we have that cut off a photo of those things, Shirley? I don't think we did. We did not.

Amazing. We should do that, sure. Good memory, right? Marisol. Great name. Marisol Forbes. So, Marisol, maybe could be the... I'll give you the adjective and then you give the professional

whatever. The fantastic. Baker. Oh yeah. Because of the pie. Yeah. The fantastic baker. I mean, if you can make a pie kearing, you can make a real pie, right?

Yeah. Surely. Yeah. The kearing is a lot harder than the pie. If you got a doughy at a gym, if you got a pie, caring, you got a pie maker. Yes, exactly. Thank you so much. Marisol and for Marisol finally,

I was up to something from Antioch in Tennessee in the United States. I reckon TN Melissa. Passaski. Melissa is the quiet tickler. Oh, quiet tickler. Emously, you never hear it coming. That's right. You just might be sitting there watching TV and then right. You've been tickled. You've been tickled. That's a catchphrase. You've been tickled. It's a good catchphrase. And it's a pleasant tickle as well.

It's not one I just want to make you, you know, want to punch a wall. Is that one of the cards that tickles? This one makes you want to just giggle with joy. You go, ah, you got me. You got me. You got me. And she doesn't go too far.

She doesn't tickle you for ages where you like stop please. It's just sort of like a little bit And you go, oh, oh, you cheeky thing. Yeah, exactly. It's cheeky. It's beautiful. Thank you so much to Melissa Marisol and Austin who would like to thank a few more of our great petrons. Oh, I'd like to Yeah, I've got in first. I like to Thanks, I was rather than saying Well, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, I like to, a cream from, but still it's closer than we are, God damn it. Yes. You'd happily do a 12 hour drive for one of me. Oh, for a cream?

I'll for bed at least very close. Yes. Well, I would love to thank Parker Riley. Fantastic, man. Parker Riley, AKA the devastating. Oh, devastating. Ooh. Devestating. Uh, firemen. Oh, the devastation.

I mean, that's probably not the combo. Does, do they devastate fires? Oh. No, he's just devastatingly handsome. Oh, that's a good combo. Parker. That's a lot of stereotype, right? Firemen are handsome. Oh, that's a good combo. Parker. That's a stereotype, right? Firemen are handsome.

I can't be. I mean, what a wild connection those two things have. I think there's something very appealing about someone who can pick you up over their shoulder and just like a kid now for, yeah. Yeah, I just want to be carried around sometimes. Bigger back. Sometimes my legs get tired and I want someone to carry me. I mean, you do, you push a lot of weight because those leg presses, what do you have to?

Yeah. I would be in a lockdown. I haven't, I haven't been able to go to the gym. I'm so excited to go. James back open here in Melbourne this week, is it? Oh my God. Yeah, next week it's starting. Are you gonna start with like a low weight

and work back those legs back up? Absolutely, because in that two week block where we were allowed to go to the gym, I overdid it and couldn't walk for a week. So I've learned and I'm gonna just ease it. All that. But I'm very excited. Hey, Jess, after you do a bit of work there,

you could be my butt double. Oh my god. Yes. Six seconds. I can go down. I don't even need to do any work and I could be an amazing. I got a six second scene that you are perfect for. It's gonna be a big break.

It'll look completely different, different heights. It's like, let's get this. That's the same. That's simply a I think that's him. That's simply a woman's waist. No, no. Anyway, thank you, Park, I'd also love to thank from Roseville, what's MN?

Minnesota. I'm doing so well today. I'm doubting myself, but I'm getting it. Rosewoman, Minnesota, I'd love to thank Jessica, English. Jessica, English. Jessica English. Oh, the brilliant archaeologist. Oh, that's cool. Like that.

When I was a kid I wanted to be an archaeologist. Yeah, me too. A dream. I didn't really know what a man apart from digging up fun stuff and discovering stuff. Basically, I was inspired by the phrase film, The Mummy. Of course. Of course, the way it was too. Who wasn't inspired by that one? Oh,, the mummy. Ah, of course. Of course.

Who was it inspired by that film? Oh my God, great movie. Great movie. Great dashing lead, the guy who played the mummy. You're welcome Jessica. Yeah. Yeah. And finally, I would love to thank

from Rosalind Park, South Australia, Tony Faye. Ooh. Tony Faye. Ooh. Tony Faye. Frozen Park. First Aussie that we're saying today. So obviously, Tony Faye, the dashing chef. Oh, the dashing chef. Wow. There's a television series ready to go

for the dashing chef, or I can. Easily, yep. What's his specialty? What does he cook? This is Tony with an eye, so it might be a sheet. Or what does he cook? Specialty is Portuguese cuisine.

Oh, wow, that's quite nice. But Nandos. Yeah, Nandos. Oh, wow, the South African nice. What Nandos? Yeah Nandos. Oh wow, the South African chain. There you go. Dave John Greenheim. I'd love to. Thank you so much everyone. Thanks so far. But let me take it home with from Limrich City in Ireland.

It is Christina Ma. Christina Ma. Christina Ma. Limrich, is that Stubbs City? Oh, it's called. You can go to Confuse. is Christina Ma. Christina Ma. Limerick, is that Stub City? Oh, it's called. You get confused. There's always two you never know, which is which.

Yeah, and I guess one would be a fending ones, Proud of it. Yeah, West Hub City. And he was like, no, not Stub City. Limerick. I don't know. Ma. Okay, what about the marvelous?

Ooh. Dragon Slayer. Holy crap. Holy crap. Holy crap. Sorry, everyone else. Yeah, Christina, you've just taken it to the next level. I just gave Tony a fucking chef. Yeah, but long hours.

But Portuguese. It's social long hours. And now fucking Christina coming in here. Whoa. Limerick is known as Stubbed City colloquially. Why? Colloquially. I think they were there.

One point was a few stavings in there. Right. Hopefully, it's less rough now. That's just what went on when I traveled through there. People told me that late after I was wandering around at night by myself and then people like you wondered around by yourself but not in stab city. You know I wondered why I got stabbed six times. No, I thought they didn't like me. But they do that for everyone.

That's their local custom. So thank you, Kristina. I would like to thank now from Preston here in Victoria. Shannon Bola. Shannon Bola. Shannon is the... What about the... Tremendous? Oh, that's good. Tripees. Artist or just actual trapeze. The human trapeze. Artists or just actual trapeze. The human trapeze. Yeah, well, the tremendous trapeze in brackets, human trapeze. Wow. Which ones are trapeze again? Is that the one where you sort of flip and around? Flip and around and like a little little flying fox star stuff. I would absolutely do trapeze.

What's really? Yeah. I try to do monkey bars for the first time in a long time recently. And whatever strengths you need to do them is not there anymore. Yeah, it's wasted on kids, I reckon. So I'm like, all right, I'm getting some sort of a chin up bar and I'm going to work. I've got to be able to reclaim the monkey bars. I mean, I hope I host one of the world's top five primate based podcasts. I need to be able to do the monkey bars.

I believe it's also, you know, it probably requires a fair bit of core strength. You might need to do some ab work. Yeah, I've been doing ab work. I've been doing planks every two out of three days. That's good. Side planks, they suck. Well, they did. They're getting easy, but they find that first, I couldn't do it for 10 seconds. Yeah, anyway, this is fun. Chat. I've just looked up the Merriam web sedictionary.

The word, you can say Trapes artist, you can also say Trapesist. So can I change that to the tremendous Trapesist? Yeah, that's it. It's great. I love that. Trap trapeziest? Yeah, that's it. I love that. I love that trapeziest. That sounds cool.

And then yeah, so it's the sort of one where you hang in. It's like two, it's like yeah, like a pole and you hang in an H end is like a little swing you hang onto. Swing. The swing you hang onto is, yeah, I was never going to get there. I don't know how.

I made that so difficult. Anyway, would you believe it? Make me think it's something more confusing than it is. That brings us to the end of. Oh, I believe I have one more, right? Oh, do we have time for one more? Yeah, all right. We've got time for one more. I'd like to thank from South Shields in Tyne and Weer, Great Britain, it is Jamie Collins. The... The... What have I set you up and you finished it off, Bob?

Yeah. The big... Pipe out. Oh, I like it. Yeah, big pipe is good. That's good. The big pipe out. Like you think of bad pipes? Bag pipes, yeah. I'm a fantastic instrument.

You don't want to live next to Ordison and it plays it, but still. No. It's fresh in my mind because I looked up what do you call a bagpipe player just last week. Because someone, I opened up questions on my Instagram story and someone said, who should I listen to first as a foreigner, John Farnham or Jimmy Vance? And I said, start with John Farnham, sorry Matt. And then I shared a video of John Farnham playing at my work Christmas party a few years ago and how they had someone come out,

just to play bagpipes for 10 seconds and then leave. I was like, how much did work pay for this? This is insane. Any chance you can give us a pop up? There was a pop up, a little. Yeah, we don't have pay for this? Is it so? Yeah, any chance you can get a pump out, pay up a little. Yeah, we don't have to have this Christmas party, you know. I'd love some sick leave, but no. I like fans, you too. I'm a big, fancy fan, obviously, but I'm also partial.

Mum brought me up on a bit of fans, he's a kid as well. So I'm saying fans, if you time then concert. I saw him once where he did a double headline show with Lionel Richie. Oh wow. Well, do they do any songs together? They did. I can't remember what it was, but I and Fancy was on first. Lionel closed it out. And I'm going to tell you, Fancy blew Lionel off the stage. Whoa. Wow. That's awesome. Obviously both both legends of the game. Yeah of the pop music game Yeah, so

The big Piper I like that a lot. It sounds like one of Australia's big things Yeah And that only leaves us with a few trip-titch club inductees to talk about. And the way you get involved in this is staying on the shout out level of Patreon supporter group for three years. And then you get brought into this very exclusive club. I'm standing out the front. I'm about to open up that, lift that velvet rope.

There's a few people waiting on the red carpet. Dave's inside. He's going to hype you up as I read your name. Jess is going to hype him up. Jess has also worked on some or derves, few cocktails and Dave's book to bam. Who have we got here for all the trip to club members? We got the music of sting. Whoa! So performed by who? Ha ha, performed by sting. Like, oh, okay. He's telling himself. That was quite a hard get. He wanted to play other stuff these days. He actually asked if he could bring out Chergy

because they didn't album together last year. I said, absolutely not. So Chergy's still at home. So, it's just Sting, Solo, and also some of the police hits as well. Oh, right. When Sting went up to Shaggy to tell him a news and he said, oh he is so good.

Here we go. We know where you go. Come on. Here we go. What happened Matt, please? Tell the story. Come on Matt, picture. And Shaggy, obviously he was the one who was talking to Dave.

And Shaggy went up to singing said Dave Warnicky booked one of us for the trippage club and soon goes oh which one of us did he book and Shaggy said it wasn't me. And Shaggy said was it Mr. Bonn bestie? Mr. Rover Lover. That was quite a story man thank you so much for that. That is exactly how it happened. So a peak behind the belt rope and the curtain there. But Sting, feels of gold. He hits the stage. Oh, that's not a clock. First thing. Second set, 1130. He really gets the beat going. You know, it's a late night set or not thing. Does some of his police work? Yeah. As any starts to, you know, check ID's and stuff. Yeah. He's on the doors. Yeah. Oh, it feels a gold. I've ideas and stuff. Yeah, he's on the door as well.

Yeah. Oh, it feels a go. I've forgotten about a science fantastic. That's a great song. Covered beautifully by can't remember a name, but Oh God, God, I know what you mean. So good. I don't know what you mean. But uh, uh, and just what kind of, what derives are we got? With this week, we've got a classic Aussie barbecue. Uh, it's just a couple of Barbies on the go.

We got some of my dad's classic potatoes. Oh, it just, oh, it slices a real thing, makes chips out of it. I love that. I love Barbie cues that it just, you just chuck anything on and it works. Yeah, you could barbecue anything and it's so good But potato is right for onions big fan. Oh, yeah, and you know lots of different types of meat but salads and Just you know help yourself

Fevegie shish kebabs. Of course wouldn't be a barbecue without some shish kebabs and Of course, wouldn't be a barbecue without some shishka babs. And drink-wise, we actually have a specialty cocktail this week called Fields of Gold. And it is vodka, passion fruit, and mango. Oh, that sounds delicious. Avocassity is who I was thinking of, the cover of Fields of Gold is quite good. Now, is that all we need to do before I start bringing

them in? Yeah. All right, well, let's go through the list. We've got a few in this place. Well, you also have to tell the people at home, what's happening in case they've never heard that before. I am the hype man for these people. And then Jess is my hype woman, hyping me up to hype up these guests. Yeah. So. And I'm really glad that Andy didn't stick around for this because it is quite embarrassing. And there's a few today, Dave. So I don't need, you just need to keep believing you fell.

How many of them? Keep the steam going. There's more this week than there has been in quite a while, okay? Oh, okay. Oh my God. What did we do three years ago to get them in? Thanks so much everyone.

Yeah, there is. So all right, let's go through them. These are all big names too. It was a big week for us three years back from Jamesville in, I'm going to say Wisconsin WR, Jamesville in the United States. It's Robert Crandall. But teachers in Crabapple, I've been going our our grando! Welcome in with a Simpsons quote. From Seville, East, in Victoria, Australia, Terry, Nyhouse. Oh, it's going to be a Nyhouse tonight!

Yeah! Woo! The main thing. From Shetland in Scotland, it's Ben Fulton. Oh, you ain't no Fultulton you're a legend. Yeah. Conroe in Texas United States, Stephanie and Evan Keller. Oh it's Keller and Keller. Come on down. From Brisbane in Queensland Australia it's a milley soft. Oh, well, how do we say this? Well, that. S-O-F.

Oh, I was going to say, yeah, because it's not going to be a softener. It's going to be a hardener. We're going to go on that. All right. Woo! From Spokane in Washington, the United States, Matthew Danis. I thought it wasn't going to be a good night, but I spokeane too soon. It's going to be a Oh, I thought I wasn't gonna be a good night, but I spokeane to Surnas gonna be a great night. Yes! Yes!

From Bentonville in, I think, Arkansas, in the United States is Paul Valentine. Oh, will you be my Paul Valentine? Yes. And a couple more from Fernie Hills in Queensland, Australia. It's Alice Joy. Oh, okay. Oh, you bring it to a lot of joy.

Yes. And finally from Derry in Ulster, Great Britain. Northern Ireland, I reckon. It's, I see I.A.N., I reckon. It's C-I-A-N. Sean? Sean. Sean. From Derry in Ulster, it's Sean Lanigan. Woo! Derry Girl is here!

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