Do Go On - 264 - Disney California Adventure Park (with Aunty Donna's Zach Ruane!)

Episode Date: November 11, 2020

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Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.

Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal, and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Hey, mates, before we start, I was wondering if you have a few quick seconds, would you be able to vote for us in the Australian Podcast Awards?

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podcastawards.com slash vote and vote for us. We will not let you down. Now on with the show. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Orniki and as always I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Hi Dave, hi Matt. Hi, Jess. I'm Matt Stewart. And we've got another guest in with us today as well, Dave.

It is our absolute pleasure to welcome to the podcast for the first ever time from Auntie Donna. It's Zachary Rueh. Wee. Sorry to get too comfortable, but I'm going to call you Zach. No. That's fine. Fine. I should say for the listener, you asked moments earlier if I prefer Zach and Zachary. And I'm doing a lot of promo for, we'll talk about that in a minute.

And at the moment. No, we won't. And every interview has opened with, is it Zach or Zach? And like, I just, I really haven't thought about it that much. And now I'm like getting really anxious that it's something I should think about. Well, what are you, like, what do your family call you? Does anybody call you Zachary? My mother when she's angry with me.

Yes, that's the only time I get Jessica. And that's the vibe we like to go for with our guests. An angry mother. I like to make you feel like we're scolding you. I used to have a vision. I used to think, well, when I do comedy, I'll be Zach Rewain. The character is Zachary. But when I do serious side projects, it'll be Zachary Rewane.

And then someone was like, yeah, but then like, that's going to like, fuck your Google stuff. Like, no one's going to be able to Google you. And I'm like, oh, no. And then, and then, I think I picked Zachary Rewain for my socials. So then I was sort of doing that. And then my partner was like, that's a lot of er sounds like, Zachary Rwain. I'm like, oh, no.

And then I think about two years ago, I just shut down. I was like, I'm not going to think about this question anymore. It's irrelevant. It doesn't matter. And then just something is being born in me this week where everyone's asking it. I'm like, I don't know. I don't care. I don't think Dave knew what he was bringing up when he asked.

I thought it would be a, oh, just say that at the start. Yeah, great, great, fantastic. Yeah, but really, you're having a meltdown. You're having a crisis. Here's a little secret about me. It doesn't matter what you ask me, it will trigger a meltdown. I think I had about four meltdowns in the process of going. Matt also said, you know how this show works?

I'm like, yeah, I've listened, but I mean, is there secrets? Do you know secrets? Is there secrets to how this works? Yeah, that's a good point. This is a pretty standard stuff. But also a bunch of secrets. Oh man. You'll just have to navigate as we get to it.

So that'll be fun. We've said a few poopie traps. Yeah. A few little booby traps. What other media you've been doing? Obviously you don't do go on. This is one of the big gets that people want to do on the circuit. To me, because I'm a nerdy boy.

I'm a nerdy boy and I love comedy, but I also just love like interesting. stuff. I love you. What a nerd. Yeah, I love things that are quite interesting. Loser. And so for me, this is a get

because it's like, oh, I get to be a little bit funny. But then I get to just talk, well, interrupt it. I was about to say uninterrupted, but the whole thing is interrupted. We'll interrupt a shit out of you. I get to talk interrupted about a topic of my choice for an hour plus. Yes. And that is for someone with, for a nerdy boy with a big ego, this is the get. You haven't been able to do that when you've been interviewed by newspapers?

No, not as much. It's a lot of... What's happening with journalism these days? It's a lot of... So we met at acting school and Broden, Mark, me. But we were always drawn to the funny characters. And we thought, well, heck, why don't we do that? And we have, there's a major comedy festival in Melbourne.

And we just thought, let's have a go. There's a lot of that. So I was like, please get me on something where I don't have to do that unless as a bit I decide to do that. Like I just did. Can we explain what you're on the plugging circuit for? You've got a new Netflix. It's a comedy show, which is something you've been drawn to.

Not quite as interesting as I had hoped. I said to the group, you know, we pitched a Netflix six-part sketch show. and they said yes and then I was like, well, I have you. Would you consider, you know, a 26-part panel show of British people hosted by Stephen Frye where maybe I'm the cheeky boy and it says cheeky things

and the interesting facts are said and they said, well, that already exists. Oh. And I said, oh, yeah, quite interesting QI. And they're like, no, no, there's 50 of those shows. There's already 50. That is one of them. So, no, I do have, I have a six-part Netflix comedy,

people are saying special. It's a series with my comedy group, Arnsey Donna, which is the biggest thing I've ever done in my life. I'm very nervous and very excited, and that's what I'm here to promote. And it comes out today. It comes out very same day as this podcast. And it is worldwide.

Similarly, this podcast. Did you know that? We've got worldwide release on this. But do you see a lot of people when you announced it were like, is it only on the Australian Netflix? And you have to reply a lot of times. No, no. You can get on all the Netflix.

It's made by Netflix. We've done things in the past that are geo-blocked. And that is a pain. The occasional nut, you can see it anywhere, is a lot easier than, no, you can't see it right now in your country, but we are working on it. You can't watch this face. Consider a VPN.

I didn't say that. So, yeah, it is worldwide. It's very excited. What time does this podcast go out? It comes out 11 a.m. Melbourne time. 11 a.m. Melbourne time, which I don't know what that is Pacific Time. But our show is coming out 1201 Pacific Time today. Right.

So in about seven or eight hours. Yeah. I reckon just jump onto your Netflix. It'll probably tell you. Yeah, that's true. They often do that. That's true. So if it's not there yet, it's not available.

Just check in. But here's what you can do. You can go to it. You can type in Auntie Donors, big old house of fun. This is only relevant for seven hours. So if you're listening to this podcast a day after it's gone up,

this is no longer relevant. But you can type that in, you can say, remind me, and it'll let you know, it'll put it on your my list. Yeah. And if you're listening to this,

you know, in a year or so, Tom, you can do that for season two. Well, or season one, which will just sit there as a constant reminder of the fact that we were too weird

for the English-speaking, world. Be a big in Spain. We're big in Spain. We're big in Spain. Absolutely. Very funny. It is so,

it's so exciting though. I can't like. It's like, it's one of those things where you know how, you know this. And you joke Matt, but like you did your tour of the UK and like people came. Yeah. Surprisingly to us. Yeah. And it's a, it's one of those things I think sometimes you just go along your journey.

as a comedian or as a performer and you do your thing and then, you know, one more person, one more person and oh, there's an audience. And you don't really realize and it's always funny the moments where you go, oh, wow, this is, this is big. And I remember it was actually when the marketing department at Netflix sent, we'd made the show. I'd met like childhood idols like, Weirdo Yankovic does a cameo. Man, that's wild. Yeah.

Like, Scott Ockerman was an EP. Like this is like crazy, crazy, crazy. Kristen Shald does a voiceover and I was there in the voiceover studio. I was like, uh, the best voice there is. Yeah. Yeah. And so it's just this really, really like strange experience. But for the most part, I was just stressed about remembering my lines the whole time.

And then it wasn't until they sent that Netflix marketing department sent the first edit of the trailer. And also just like the pictures for like, the top of our Facebook and billboards if they were to make them. And it was that, that email that I freaked out. It was like two years after I'd known I had this. I saw this email and like, oh. Oh, no. Oh, no.

They've called me Zach, not Zachary. Oh, no. It's ruined. It's ruined. It's ruined. That is. Why they call Matt, I don't know if you know this, he's called known as the pun king on this show.

That's a pun. Someone's been able to explain what a pun is to me. Rewaned. Do you know, you know it was a Netflix comedian. Oh, God. Dave always just says it's a play on words. Yeah. A play on words.

I think, is it, is it, there's got to be double meaning in there. That's surely part of the definition. Surely there's, it's using one word in a different context. Right. Are there puns that don't do that? We don't know, Zach. We're not that advanced. We don't know.

Some massive conglomerate. that created a thing where you could just type in pun definition. It's like, you're acting crazy. I mean, stop it. Are you pitching a new show? Yeah, I think it's a show. I don't know. It's something, all I've got in my head is order the internet.

Make it ordered and then take control of the entire world with glasses. Those are the thoughts I've got. Okay. Hopefully they never came off. The Google Glasses. Oh, the Google Glass. Google goggles would have been way better. That's why they didn't come off, I reckon.

Imagine going for a swim. Should we acknowledge the fact? Is that a child or a cat? It sounds like a goat to me. There is either a child, a cat or a goat outside whaling. Which almost definitely will not be picked up by these microphones. No. If we sound thrown off by someone pleading for their life, it's either a cat, a goat or a child.

None of us have checked, but we assume they're pleading for their life. We're back in the same room as well for the first time. We're in the Aunty Donner office. We're in the Inner Sanctum here. Is this where you used to record? We recorded a few early episodes. We're in Brod and Kelly from Aunty Donner. Ben and Kelly.

And the Elvis episode with Nick Mason, we recorded in this room as well. That's true, yeah. This was before it was the Aunty Donner office. Yeah, we, so we're in stupid old studios with you guys. And we kind of like took the common room. Yeah. Like, we don't have enough space.

We'll take the common room, please. And I think there was some controversy around that, some mumblings around the office. Yeah. Mostly from me. I was starting rumors. I have a funny story about your podcast because I, and it's about the fact that we share an office.

Because I remember, I have a friend who's really, really into podcasts. I imagine he's probably listening. I haven't talked to him in years. And I remember the moment I realized you guys were really taking. off was when he came to me, I used to work at a cinema and he was working at the cinema as well and he came up to me and he said, hey, just so you know, one of the podcasts I listen to often complain about how loudly you rehearse. Often apologise for you loudly rehearsing in the room next door.

I was like, wow, you guys are doing all right. That was your reaction. It was good for them. Good for them. Good for them. That's great. I also, I also, because I'm not, like I've gotten into podcasts since, but at the time I wasn't crazy into podcasts because I also,

he also was a big fan of Daily Planet and Nick Mason. And I remember I walked up to Nick and I was like, hey, I have a friend who really likes your podcast. It was just like, you know that when you know from someone's reaction, it's like, oh, he's one of many, many people. And I am an asshole. Hey, good job, little bud. Yeah, it was that, it was so that.

And he was like, oh, thank you. Thank you. And she was like, oh, you're very successful, and I didn't know that. Not successful enough for you to know the real name is podcast, immediately. Because I don't know why I just called it the Daily Planet. That's so embarrassing. Well, that's, is that a pun? No.

That's just a, that's just as someone has Superman on them. Oh, yes. Why is, it's completely escaping me. It's a weekly planet Oh, that's fine That's fine That's why I was... Yeah, you're in the right

I mean that's that's why I'm... Is weekly planet a pun on the daily planet? Well, it's a reference isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, weekly planet is playing off Daily Planet surely. That's not that isn't a pun. That's an homage.

Right. It's a... It's like out of necessity maybe. But like if the host was named Cayley and they called the show the Cayley Planet, you'd be like that's... It's a pun. Okay.

Is it? Is it? Is it? Oh my God. I'm really, really tempted to just Google. I know. We've never done that before. But I worry that I'm going to get in the way of like your banter.

You know, I'm just going to stop. We could end this right now. Yeah, but then what are you going to do for content? Exactly. One of our bits is not knowing what a pun is, Matt. We've only got two bits. The other one is not knowing what Scat and Scat. The difference between Scat and Scar.

Oh, I know the difference. You know Scat also in America? also means poo. What? Oh, this is, this is, this is, do you want to know the meaning for pun or do you want me to hold it? I want to know.

I want to know. Who wants to just have a guess? Who wants to just have a guess of the definition? I can't. It feels like you said the double meaning. I love that. I think that that's in there. Maybe you're playing words with a double meaning.

Maybe put those two things together. You're covering more bases. Is pun-tastic a pun? Yes. Or is that a portminto? Oh, that's great. I've got a portmanteau. I've got portmanteau in my report.

Yes. And I'm so glad you said it because I wasn't 100% on the pronunciation. Me either, to be fair. So there could be people listening like, oh, that was painful to hear. What is a pun? A pun is a joke exploiting the different possible meanings of a word or the fact that there are words which sound alike but have different meanings. Okay.

And a Zach is someone that takes all the fun out of us. So it's a pun. I ruin everything. Which is a pun because I'm exploiting the fact that these two words sound alike but have different meanings. The best part about that is this time next week, we will have forgotten that. And we'll be back here and you won't be here, so able to explain it. So we'll have no idea. And also it still doesn't fully, that doesn't compute in my head.

No. Where an example will come up and I'll be like, I don't. still don't know if it is or not. But now I've got some criteria I can sort of tick off. That's it. Which I've basically forgotten. But at one point I heard the words. So that's pretty promising.

Yeah. This is the longest intro I've done in so long. I'm a fiend for a long intro. I have a side project, which I'm not here to promote. I'm here to promote the Netflix show. Okay. All right. But if you were to mention your side project, we're good to say.

Just beep it out. I have a podcast with my friend Mishwood Shrop. It's called Mission Zax. Legu Zamorama where we watch, much like your Patreon exclusive, where you watch every film starring Ben Frazier. Brendan Fraser. I am, this is bad.

Brendan Fraser, I watch every movie starring the character actor John Leguizamo. And we, boy, our intros long. Too long. Too, too long. Surely Leguizamorama is a pun? Yes, I believe so. That's got to be a pun.

That's our new game. game is thinking of if we were to do other podcasts about about famous actors and my personal favourite is Michael Shananza. Oh. That's all. That's all I've got. Wait, so how is Leguizama Rama a pun?

I don't know. What's the double meaning of Leguizama? I don't know. Leguzaama and then also like a... No, maybe it's not a pun. Well, see, this is what I mean. It's fucking confusing. But diorama-ramarama. That's the thing on The Simpsons where they have their diarama da. Anyway.

Oh, no. So, talk about one of your EP's, Scott Ockerman, he, also in his podcast, and that shows all intro. You know, that's sort of a joke. We talk exclusively about whatever band they're talking about that they don't mention them for an hour and a half. We, we, like I was really, I'm really big into one pop pastas at the moment just because, you know, it's less dishes and that sort of thing.

And I can't express to you. I think Legu Zamorama is more one pop past the talk than it is Leguizamo talk. And our fans are like playing along. They're like, oh, ha, ha. And I'm like, but I think deep down they just want us to get to the point. They're humoring you? Yes.

It's like, oh, I can be in on the joke. It's like, you can also just tell us to stop. There's only four of you. Just shoot us at the end. Let us know what you need from us. Well, maybe we should get on with it now. So the way this show works for new listeners is one of the four of us, in this case it's Zach.

We'll go away and research a topic. We'll learn all we can about it. We'll write up a report and we'll bring it back to the others. And then we'll tell them and then they'll listen politely. Pretty much uninterrupted for an hour or so. This week, Zach's done the report. He's here to learn us about a certain topic. We don't know what the topic is.

We get on the topic with a question. What is this week's questions, act? Oh, well, that's a great question. My question is, name a company that through their history and expertise really shouldn't be messing up the opening of a new venture. This is based on one of your earlier episodes. That's a fantastic question. Thank you.

Thank you so much. This is the, I should also use this opportunity to say, that thoughtful, considered, well-written question. took me maybe 20 minutes to come up with. I had about four hours to do the report. So start doing some maths and get excited for the second half of this podcast. But I mean, we can all admit. That was a fantastic question.

Yeah, it was so good. It kind of lost me halfway through a little bit. Well, you know, just remember that question when I'm hitting the dot points. That's all I'm saying. So it's based on an old episode. So maybe an old episode about a company. we've done? Well, yes, yes. So it's a specific, the topic I have chosen is a specific moment in time, or a specific venture of a company. Now, I have accidentally through conversation, given this

away to most of the people here today. That's right. So largely, Matt, this is on you to get. Yes. You did say the topic out loud when you were finishing the report whilst I was driving you here. You just said the key word and then went, oh no, oh no. There are details. beyond that that I don't think I've given away. I'm trying to think of so we've done Lego, we've done, stop me when I'm getting ready. I'll say it again.

So name a company that through their history, through their history, really shouldn't be messing up the opening of a new venture because maybe this company who is very successful, very well known for one of the things, for many things, but one of the things they do, have failed in the opening

of their ventures in the past. Oh, okay. This is harking back to a Matt Stewart classic. Oh, very early one. The first do go on I ever listen to. Ah. Oh, we've talked about this before. I reckon and you're a big fan of theme parks.

It's a Disney, it's Disneyland. Well, done, buddy. Good job. I would never have got that. Yeah, you're the biggest theme park lover I know. I'm a bit of a, like all men, I've taken something I enjoy and I've turned it into facts that I can say to people until they hate me. I do.

I love theme parks. I really love theme parks. I, it was one of those great moments where I realized that how good your podcast is because you then can have lots of, like any freak you meet, any nerd you meet, you can be like, oh yeah, I know a little bit about your thing because I did an episode about it once and we had a moment. So you talked many years ago about the opening of Disneyland. Yes.

And today I'm going to be talking, can I say now? Yeah, I can, of course, yes. Oh, thank God. The mystery remains for the entire episode. The listeners never find out. I'm going to be talking about largely the opening, but also just a bit of the history of Disney California Adventure. Oh.

Which is the theme park directly across from Disneyland. Oh, wow. This is a sequel that opened in 2001. Oh, cool. Yeah. I don't think I've ever heard of it. No. No, you probably haven't.

Oh, okay. Unless you've been there. And then we're like, what's that? And someone says, that's the other park. Sadly, Jess and I both visited in 1998 on separate family trips. So we missed it. Just missed out. Wow.

That was a car park then. Oh, wow. We probably used it. We stayed in a motel opposite Disneyland and there was an I-hop that shared a car park with our motel. Wow. Yeah, it was a good trip. What a cultured trip that was. I need to say, though, I am such a freak with the, like such a nurse.

with theme parks that everything you've said, there's been about 12 facts per sentence that I want to go and say, so you need to just stop me. You need to keep me on track. Should I just jump in? Yes, right. Sounds great.

Disney California Adventure, or DCA for short, or Disney California Adventure Park for long, is one of the 12 Disney theme parks around the world. and was the second part built at the Disneyland Resort, the site of the original Disneyland Park in Anaheim, opened in February of 2001 in an area that originally housed the Disneyland car park. The 72-acre park is themed after the history and culture of the state of California, located in California and an hour's drive from tourist attractions like Hollywood and Santa Monica Pier.

The park has a number of different California-themed lands, evoking iconic locations like Hollywood and the Santa Monica appear. When you can go to the real one in less than an hour. Literally an hour. It's a very special place. That is,

because when you go to Las Vegas and they have like, you know, the Venetian, which is the Venice scene, that's a long, that's a big trip. It's, it's a phenomenal, it's a phenomenal place. They've since like plussed it up, which I'll talk to a little bit.

But, yeah, it's literally like a Las Vegas themed casino in Las Vegas. DCA for some reason was not a success when it first opened. And today we're going to investigate why. That's fun. This is great. Yeah, so this is after Walt had passed on. So it's sort of like, you know, Apple products since the Apple Bill goes. Yeah, this is literally the, this is literally the

the iPad of theme parks. It's just like, oh, I don't think that's what he wanted. Are we short? Did he write anything down specifically? Okay, yeah, great. It's pretty close, I guess. Before we launch into the story, I think some context and key terms might help.

A lot of people think that Disney theme parks around the world are directly themed to the brand of Disney in the way that Warner Brothers Movie World on the Gold Coast or Universal Studios is. While this is largely true now, that wasn't always the case. The first Disneyland in Anaheim, as you would know if you've listened to Matt's episode, was more the singular vision of Walt Disney himself. He did use various characters and films for ride themes and meet and greets, but the majority of the park was its own experience,

taking you to the future in Tomorrowland, the Wild West in Frontierland, or a vague Oriolentis blend of Africa, Southeast Asia and the Middle East in Adventureland. The idea was that a lot of people have, the idea that a lot of people have of a bunch of theme parks with a castle in the middle and then a lot of Disney princesses and rides

is only half the story. For example, Walt Disney World in Florida has four theme parks on its property or with different themes and layouts. This is, I'm holding back here. Wait, so which one of, Which one was that? That was the Florida one.

So that's Disney World, is it? Yes, yes. Or Orlando. Oh no, there's an Orlando one as well, isn't there? So no, Orlando, Florida. And this is where I always come unstuck. And this is really where I came unstuck. I was like, as I was writing this report,

I was sort of hit for about an hour of like, I need to remember, I'm a big nerd about this stuff, that the people listening are going to ask that very question. What's the difference between Disneyland and Disney World? That's where I'm. got to start from. Right. That's always confused me.

And I do remember that Orlando's one. California is the classic one. Yeah. Which is like in, yeah, outside of L.A. somewhere. It's about an hour out of L.A. is Disney land. Yeah. Right. That's An Aeneheim.

And that's in Anaheim. Yeah. An hour out of California. And that's near the studio. That's how you think of it. And then basically what happened was everyone was like, we need one on the East Coast. We need one on the East Coast.

So they made Walt Disney World. Right. on the east coast. And the way to remember that is it's bigger. World is bigger than land. Also, also, when Walt Disney died, they named it Walt Disney World as opposed to Disneyland. So Walt World. Yeah, right, nice.

Yeah. Also, you can just not be a nerd. Well, that's an interesting option. One way will not be. No, thank you. We decline. The parks are created, designed and designed. constructed by Walt Disney Imagineering, which is the research and development of the Walt Disney

company. Yeah, I told you I go deep. Originally known as WED Enterprise from the initials Walter Elias Disney, the arm was renamed to reflect the employees who were originally known as Imagineers, a Port Mendo of engineer and imagination. Oh, that's fantastic. I like that. But before that, they were known, it was known as wet industries.

Wed. Wed. Wed. Oh, wed. I also heard Wet and I was thinking that it sounded like a porn. Yeah. I can't imagine a group of engineers that design Snow White rides is the sort of pornography I want to watch.

No, thank you. Well, everyone's got their niche, Zach, so. Imagineers is a great job title. Isn't it? I'd love to drop that at a dinner party. Yeah, I'm not sure if it's awesome or awful. It's a bit of both, yeah. It's somewhere in the middle there.

The problem I think is that, because, Anyone that works there is an Imagineer. So there are Imagineers. So it sounds so whimsical. When I hear Imagineer, I imagine someone who just designs these, like, but like the people in charge of land acquisition are Imagineers. The people in charge of like crowd control. It's less fun.

Yeah, it's a little bit. I remember I met an Imagineer once. I was like, oh my God. Oh, this is the coolest thing ever. And I think he was like in finance or something. Yeah. I was like, ah. He's in sanitation.

You're like, well, that is important, but it's less fun. It sounds mystical and magical, but you need to remember half of the word is engineer. Yes, that's a good point, yeah. This is overseen by a subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company, Disney Parks Experience and Products, Inc, formerly known as Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Worldwide. Now, the reason why that's relevant is they are the suits. Oh, yep. The Imagineers, wonderful, beautiful, blue sky.

Those guys, nah, boo. Take down the suits, Zach. Yeah, boo. They give, they, yeah, boo. Okay. So, where does the story of DCA begin? If you're an effective storyteller that is able to reduce stories down for a first-time listener, probably around the mid-90s.

But if you're a big nerd like me, then the story begins on December 15, 1966. The date. Do you know what, 1996s? the year that my football team, the Saints won there, one and only premiership. I'm so sorry about this. Are you seriously apologising to a man who's making you listen to facts about imagine it is?

This is my payback. I grew up in a rural town, so I heard a lot about football, and I had to smile politely and not. All you wanted to do was talk about magical lands. That's it. That's it. This is now I make people listen to me talk about the same level of boring.

We did a bonus episode recently where Jess told us about a smaller theme park in New Jersey called Adventureland. Have you heard of that? Oh yeah. Yeah, Adventureland. That's the one. Action Park? Action Park.

What did I say? Adventureland. What the fuck is that? Well, I just said Adventureland. It's a part of Disneyland. Oh, that's what I've done. It's actually like, yeah, I know Adventureland. But no, Action Park is amazing.

It's a phenomenal story. Yeah. Just the complete lack. of anything. Anything. People died in action land, didn't they? Because they didn't have imaginers. Yeah.

Yes. That was their downfall. They had a lot of imagination. Not enough on the nearing. Teenagers in high up roles. Yeah, drunk teenagers in management positions. Didn't sound like they consulted a single engineer actually. No, they didn't.

No. It's when you're a big Disney nerd or like theme park nerd specifically, you end up watching a lot of videos that are like this where they're basically like and then they designed the ride which was lots of fun and then it does this turn and it's like but then someone died on the right and you're watching it like oh oh i got into this because it brings me joy and here i am watching a video about someone being crushed this is very sad it's not great um where was i December 1966 and that date can anyone guess what happened happened on that date.

That's when Disneyland opened. No, that was 55. Did they... Did they... Did they buy the land for the car park or something like that? No, no, they already had the land to the car park. Well, I'll tell you, exactly what I just criticized. That was the date that American entrepreneur, visionary and union buster,

Walt Disney passed away at the age of 65. Oh, yes. He died in 66. Wow. Yeah, he died not long after. He was planning Walt Disney World, which I would say... say is a very good episode. The original Epcot is a very good episode

for you guys. He was planning it, but then he passed away. Right. Yeah. I also mentioned Union Buster as a bit of a gag. He had some bad parts. When you say, what's Epcot? So Epcot is, and this is the problem here, and this

is why this podcast is going to go for five hours and I'm so sorry. Epcot is, it currently is the second park at Walt Disney World. So there's four theme parks there. But originally what it was going to be was he wanted to build an entire city with people that lived there, people that worked there, and it was going to be like a model city, like the idea that you would come, look at the city and see the potential for what humanity could be. And then he

passed away and apparently that day someone came into the office of his brother and said, so what are we doing about Epcot? And his brother said, well, it's dead. We're making a theme park. We're doing a theme park. It was a great idea. It was a really cool idea, but it was only he could do it. Epcot. Epcot, experimental prototype community of tomorrow.

Oh, wow. Well done, sir. Thank you. Yeah, good job. And it's the one that has the thing that looks like the giant golf ball, right? So now it does, yeah. So in the 80s, they were like, all right, let's have a crack at Epcot. But the problem is with someone like Walt Disney,

You've got to remember, like, when he made an animated film, no one except for some randoms in Europe had made a feature-length animated film. When he made a theme park, theme parks didn't exist. He had ideas and he pushed into new, like, he was a visionary. He was the true Imagineer. Yes, yes. Wow. The true Imagineer.

He was a Steve Jobs. He was that kind of guy. Steve Jobs. Thank you. Mm-hmm. We're doing well today, are we? Or as Matt knows him, the Apple Bill Gates guy. The Apple Bill Gates guy.

But he had the vision. And it basically was just one of those things where he was always pushing what Disney was. When he wanted to do a theme park, everyone was like, we're an animation company. And now you couldn't imagine a Disney that doesn't do theme parks. So if he had stayed around for another 10 years,

who knows, maybe Disney would be, when we think of Disney, of cartoons, theme parks and futuristic cities, maybe. But we never know. And I think it was probably smart of them to not. Until they thaw him out. Yeah. Well, actually, that's not true.

I'm so glad you did it. I was going to have to otherwise just to save the tweets. Actually, that's actually a... Actually, actually, any fun or joy you have around this concept, I'm going to throw some facts at you. So like Apple after it, the company fell into the trap that many do after the death of their visionary leaders,

a combination of nepotism and inertia. After a decade of little innovation and forward thinking, the Walt Disney company was in trouble. After a corporate takeover attempt in the early 80s that would have absolutely decimated the company, shareholders Sid Bass and Roy E. Disney, so Disney's brother, brought in Michael Eisner, a CEO and chairman,

and former Warner Brothers Chief Frank Wells as president, to replace Ron W. Miller in 1984 and strengthen the company. Eisner was exactly what the company needed. A former executive at Paramount, he had vision and drive, and would engage creatively in a way CEOs hadn't in years. As a like a little aside, a little side thing, they got trapped in, there was a phrase that they would say in the offices, which was what would Walt do?

And they got trapped by that. They became completely trapped by this idea of what would Walt do. Because what happened was they would go, what would Walt do? And what they landed on was things he had done in the 40s, 30s, 50s. Yeah. And what Walt would have done was always push forward. Right, but they were like, let's make Cinderella again.

Yeah. No, we've done that nine times. Cinderella to do. What Walt would do now is do a corporate takeover. It's become a multinational conglomerate with no sense. soul. So they were doing what Walt did do, not what Walt would do. That's very good. Yes. Yep. Well said that. Well said. I'm really struggling with being the straight guy. Normally I'm the one that brings these down. But I'm like, no, back to the report. Go get back to that report.

All right. So, Eisner oversaw what was known as the Disney Renaissance or the Disney decade. Our generation would know it for its films, The Little Mermaid, Lion King, Tarzan, Moulin, etc., etc. But he also drove a revitalisation of the parks. The idea of stepping into the movies was introduced. Through deals with George Lucas, he pushed the creation of several iconic rides. He also introduced a third and eventually a fourth park to Walt Disney World and started plans on Euro Disney an hour's drive from Paris. Under Eiseners' tenure, through the addition of,

of the two theme parks, another water park, multiple hotels, and a revitalised shopping and dining district known as downtown Disney. That's what I go to Disneyland for, the shopping. I go there for the food court. Yeah, yeah. It's the best food court. Best Chinese of a bad.

Fantastic. Chats in the fashion capital can suck a fuck in my eyes. It's Disneyland or bust for me. I can imagine it would be, it'd be pretty brutal being visiting like the offices of Disney the way they talk like some of these terms would just be so hard to be around it all the time it just the imaginers and oh yeah everything's sort of fluffy and bullshit but also they're just making money yeah downtown Disney yeah that's out to downtown Disney for lunch I have a suspicion though that that sort of stuff is very like it's either

right at the end someone puts it on in the marketing department or it's right at the start it's the guy imagine it is I reckon the people in the parks and resorts are just like numbers, figures, spreadsheets, money, money, money. Yeah. I think people imagine it to be like, oh, a magical place of joy and wonder. And I reckon Bob Iger's just like, nah, make me more money, please. You guys need to make me more money and you can do it however the way, however way you wish. As long as there's more money.

If it's magical and whimsical, if that gets us 0.1% more, then sick, if not. Yeah, but that, yeah, they don't have spreadsheets and calculators. They call them whimsic calculations. They call, yeah, everything is a portmanteau with imaginations. Imagine laders. Imaginators, that's it. Yes. Walt Disney World went from a one or two-day expedition on your trip to Florida

to a multi-day experience. Walt Disney World became the destination itself. With people spending their entire trip inside, the gates. They even introduced Disney's Magical Express a free bus service from Orlando Airport. So that was the thinking. It was like, let's turn this place into one. Yeah. This is your holiday. It's not a day on your holiday. It's this is it. You come here for many, many, many, many days. You give us many, many, many dollars. Then you go away. They secede from the United States, form their own country. You get a passport. Here's a fun.

little fact. They kind of, not, not, not seceded, but they are their own city, city like council. Wow. So they literally. Counselors. Counselors, they literally, they have their own fire department, their own police department. They have people that live there who are on the payroll. And essentially it's its own county.

That's nuts. Walt Disney World is its own because it was going to be a city, because they were going to do that, and they've just held onto it. So there's Disney Police. There's Disney Police. Do they have big gloves like Mickey Mouse Hands? Yes, I believe so.

Look, I don't know, but I'm going to assume yes. I'm going to assume that they do, yes. Yeah, and like, so it means as well that in Walt Disney World, they have Orlando Universal down the road. Orlando Universal, if ever, they build anything new, if ever they build anything tall, they have to check with the council. Disneyland can just do it because they are the council. Wow.

That's incredible. It's pretty full on. Yeah. It's pretty weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a little bit weird and maybe capitalism had already gone too far by the 60s. It wasn't long before the top brass turned their attention to the original park, Disneyland in California. Research had shown that most attendees were only spending one day at the park.

to most normal people, this is a reasonable amount of time to spend it. But to people like me, and to Eisner and Co, this was millions of dollars that weren't being spent in accommodation, dining and multi-day tickets. But there was a problem. The Walt Disney company didn't own much land there. As it was Walt's first park, he underestimated the number of cheap motels, diners, convention centres, and IHops that would pop up around. the park.

What's an IHop? International House of Pancakes. Oh, right. It doesn't sound like a pancake place. I assumed it was a clothing store. No, it's a, yeah. Some reason. Well, I mean, I was eight, but I remember it's sort of like a diner kind of layout.

Right. I like pancakes. Pancakes. International House of Pancakes. It was pretty fancy. Oh, yeah. Do you remember when they change, maybe you don't? I think I was there at the time, but they changed their name from IHOP to IHob.

for a promotional period just because they started doing burgers so their marketing team like let's just call it the International House of Burgers and it was this fun little idea they even changed the signage on a couple of stores and changed their Twitter handle

and then for the next two weeks their poor social media team had to comment on every single tweet that was like why aren't you doing pancakes anymore it was just like just tweet after tweet we are still doing our pancakes that you know and love us for. But we've decided we've

just for a bit of fun. This is just a fun marketing campaign to talk about our new range of burgers. Don't worries. We'll be back to eye help as soon enough. Just like people are the worst. Hoping to cash in

on the cool new concept. Unlike Walt Disney World where the company had bought parcels of land approximately twice the size of Manhattan. So for context, that's why they have four theme parks. There's still just like huge chunks of land. And every other park is just big chunks of land

because it's easier to just buy it straight away. Every inch of the land owned by the company was used by either Disneyland or the adjacent car park. And any attempts to buy property would immediately drive the price up because people would go, oh, Disney's buying. Clearly they need my eye hop too. so I'll just charge them heaps. The decision was made to build the new park

on the site of that said car park. The next challenge, what to build. In 1991, they announced their plans for Westcott. An incredible vision, it was themed around a utopian vision of the future, similar to Epcot Centre at Walt Disney World, and it was planned to be the first Disney theme park to contain hotels within the park. There were various lands themed to different countries,

each would feature a hotel. It would need a significant land purchases and would cost something in the range of $3 billion. Wow. Which is a lot of money, but for a company like Disney, not so much. It's like pocket change. Or so we thought.

Ooh, drama. Yeah, no, they just went into some money problems. Unfortunately, Eisner's successes in the late 80s were starting to crack. and the Disney Renaissance was starting to look a lot more like the Disney Dark Ages. Hey guys, I'm really proud of that. Thank you. Beautiful.

A number of high profile failures such as Euro Disney and announcements and then retractions of such concepts as Port Disney and Disney's America to name a few meant that Disney was in big financial trouble. Was Euro Disney a failure? Initially, yes. I was very close to talking about that because it was so similar. in its failings to, to Walt, to Disneyland. There's like a real synergy in that they finished it and it was beautiful. It was like perfect because they were like, well, far out. We're in Europe.

You know, in America, a fake palace castle in the middle of your theme park is kind of cool. But you can see the real Notre Dame up the road. So they went all in. They spent heaps of money. They made it really, really beautiful. And everyone in Europe was like, fuck, fuck you. They picked Paris. Like they picked France.

Like the French are not famously welcoming of American culture. They're like, we're just going to take up a really big bit of your land. Like England would have been like, bring it in. We love it. But like, no, they were really mad. And even just down to, in terms of cultural, like cultural imperialism, Euro Disney was a name devised by the Americans. Euro in Europe is just like finance.

It's the euro. It's a financial term. Money world. It's literally like calling you plays Dollar Disney. Come and spend your money and make us fat cats even rich. Yeah, right. So it just didn't work. And it's quite famously, it was really beautiful.

It's starting to get run down. It's kind of famously the least impressive park after Hong Kong and DCA. Oh. A bit of fun. I've been to the Paris one, but I don't remember thinking it was a bit shit. Maybe it's because I felt quite sick after going on Space Mountain, even though my tummy does not like rides. Oh.

I did it. I like I would love it. That's the biggest problem with becoming a nerd about something is like you would know with your football. You spend more time being mad at your team than you do. Just being like, yeah. I love this. Yeah, yeah. It's like, I love this.

Why are you shutting that ride down? Yeah. And you've got to kind of check yourself and be like, oh, we're talking about a pretend ride place. I'm struggling to keep up with all the names. So DCA, which one's that again? This is what you're talking about. This is Disney California Adventure.

Oh, that's right. So this is one across the road from the original. This is, in theory, what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. So DCA is Disney California Adventure, which is what they're about to come up with. But at the moment, it's, like car park land or something.

Yeah, it's a place where you park your cars. Imagine that. Imagine. Imagine. Imagine. What would have done? Park his car. Park his car.

He famously parked it. It's so good. He was a good parker. The budget of $3 billion was dropped down to $600 million. Which sounds like a lot. Yeah, it's a big drop. It's a big drop. And for context, the recent Star Wars-themed land galaxy

edge, which was just a land in Disneyland, cost over a billion dollars. Wow. Because you've got to think it's like there's safety precautions, it's theming. So 600 million is like a very, very small amount for an entire park. They did save a lot of money though by combining the imagination people and the engineers. Yes. So they sort of halved their workforce. Yeah.

They got rid of half their engineers and half their imaginators. It's a little, it's a little tough because of COVID because they have halved their workforce. in the last few months. Oh, fuck. Yeah, COVID would not be good for theme parks. One of my favorite tweets, I wish I could, like, credit this to someone. It's probably bad to quote a tweet you can't credit. But there's someone going, I used to watch the Jurassic Park films

and think that's absolutely ludicrous. Why would you keep opening the parks with people dying? And then this happens. Because they've opened Walt Disney World. They're like, just try to stay away from each other on the ride. Just spread out of the lines, okay? I love the idea of people being like, I will not let the death of thousands get in the way of my going on space mountains.

Like, I love theme parks, but I'd like my Nana more. That's actually starting to sound like you don't really love theme parks. I know, is that the choice? Yeah, wow. It's theme parks or Nana. Yeah, from Nana, hey? Good choice. Thank you so much.

I disagree. Eisenus scrapped the Westcott idea and took 30 of Disney's top executives for a three-day retreat to Aspen, Colorado. There's a lot of coke done at this retreat. So much coke. I just love how shit that sounds. The idea of like, oh, magic, wonder,

30 executives on a corporate retreat to Aspen, Colorado. At the end of that three-day retreat, the idea of a California-themed park had been locked in. The most magical of all the states. How many ideas were on the whiteboard before they got to that? Yeah, a lot. I imagine a great deal. We should have a Melbourne-themed theme park in Melbourne, though.

I think Luna Park is a little bit too broad. Yeah, I'd love to see a small Rialto. Yes, and I'd love... The scale. Like, the food court would be like a laneway. You know what I mean? That is fun. It's funny.

It's literally like instead of Sovereign Hill in Ballarat, so Sovereign Hill, as you've got international listeners, I should explain. Sovereign Hill is like a little outdoor museum that evokes the gold rush era of Ballarat, a city just out of Melbourne. It would be like Ballarat land in Ballarat and just like it's Ballarat now. Yeah. Come to Ballarat, see a smaller version of Ballarat. Sturt Street.

Sturt Street. There's many reports about the blue sky meetings that happened on that retreat, but the main reasoning that is given is that surveys found that tourists that came for one day were then spending many other days seeing attractions in California. How dare they?

The thinking was to give them those attractions in one part. Get fucked. How funny is it? It's the most like corporate logic. It's like we're going to lock the imaginers out and we're going to make this decision. How good is it? So good.

It's so funny. It's so good. They keep going on these one-day trips where they fly over the Grand Canyon. What do we have a smaller, grand canyon? Essentially, it's a hole. Yeah, not that big, admittedly. Yeah.

I remember the first time I went to Disneyland in Disneyland from the 60s. They have a New Orleans Square. I don't know if you remember that from when you were eight, but you probably don't because you're not a nerd. like me. But they have a New Orleans Square and I remember thinking

that was so funny when I was there. I was there for the first time. I thought, isn't that funny that like in the 60s, the idea of a theme park is to take you to other places. And in the 60s, it was exciting to go,

this is what's on the other side of America. Yeah. Because most people didn't go there. And I thought that was funny because I thought that would be like having a little Perth, yeah, Perth Square at Luna Park,

you know? Yeah. Like that was funny. to me and I love that 30 years later they thought let's just do what you're in but smaller. Yeah. It's amazing. That's nuts. It's literally the stupidest thing.

And I love it and I hate it. It's so, it's just, you know where you get so far up your own asses like in business or whatever? You forget that like consumers are just like you, they think like you. Yeah. It's like, yes, the consumer will want this. It's like, do you? Would you go to that?

God no. It was a good idea in theory and Disney was pumped. On January 14, the Los Angeles Times published an article titled The Most Jam-packed theme park on earth, question mark.

And here's the quote. Senior Disney officials acknowledge that there will be days when California adventure will have to turn patrons away. particularly in the first weeks after the park opens. Obviously, they had learnt their lessons from opening day of Disneyland where it was so swamped.

I'm assuming you remember this report you did five years ago. I remember pretty well. I mean, yeah, I forgot that it was 55, not 66. Wow, to shame. But part of the problem was that people printed their own tickets. That's right. Yeah, forged tickets. It was so hot that the roads hadn't set properly

and they melted and people's feet were sinking into the footpaths. They didn't have enough toilets yet. They had to paint the grass green in certain areas. There's just like apparently Tomorrowland was just like an exhibition for Monsanto. Wow. They did have weeds that were growing. They put little fences around and put Latin names to make it look like they were there on purpose. Amazing.

Yeah. Amazing. There's a ride now in Disneyland that, It's a mountain. It's a fake mountain. It's called the Matterhorn bobsleds. And before that was, before it was that, it was just a hill.

And they were like, it's a hill. That hill was just what they dug up to make a pond next to it. That was like, this is what we got from Grand Canyon. So because of that, every opening since is famous that they've overestimated. thought Disney,

Paris Disneyland, they were like, stay back, don't come, Star Wars Land. They locked out, like, pass holders.

They were like, don't come. It's going to be busy. And now every single opening in Disney's history since then has been, oh, there's only like five people here.

So, you know. Zach, are you one of those five people? No, do you know, no. No. I'm a big,

like, I'm a big nerd for this stuff, but I like to wait until it's settled. And also, I like the magic of going to these places. So I used to think, oh, if I ever lived in L.A., I would go every weekend.

And then I did. I lived there for like six months for the Netflix show. Available now on Netflix. Or possibly in seven hours. I haven't been talking for about seven hours, I think. So I should get to it. But I only went, I went for three days. Michael Eisenher's dream was achieved.

I went for three days. I went on another, like on a work trip, funnily enough. That's a whole other story. But I didn't go lots and lots and lots because then it becomes like a shopping mall. Then it loses its magic, you know? So I actually don't go that regularly. Is it, it's like, was it the Simpsons that had like

its New Year's Eve every 10 minutes or something? Yeah, every 15th. It sort of loses its specialness if you do it that often. That's probably based on Disney Springs. No, Disney Springs or downtown Disney, whatever it was called then, did New Year's Eve every night under the Eisenet era. I think that's...

I wish I was dead. Executives and Imagineers were so confident of DCA's success that they even had plans to add a new drop tower attraction to Disneyland because they were worried that too many guests would be spending all their time at Disney California. Oh, right, you've got to pimp up Disneyland a bit. They were like, they were already making plans. It's going to take away from Disneyland.

We're actually going to ruin our other business. No, you've ruined both because now where the fuck do people park? Yeah, did they think of that? Yeah, that's a good question. That's something they didn't really consider. We're going to be packed out, but people will walk from now on. We have built over the entire car park. No, they've got a bus directly from Orlando Airport.

It's across America. You have to go park at the airport. It is very funny now. The car parks there are too far away. Like you have to walk a long way. It's like, oh, I'm quite tired now by the time I get there. Hey, and good news, guys, we're getting into rough dot point territory now. The park opened in early 2001, and let me talk you through some of what it was.

The park's entrance was a three-dimensional representation of a picture postcard of California. California. California. You walked past giant letters spelling California alongside a large ceramic mural representing California stuff. You walked under a dodgy fake golden great bridge before revealing a large, tacky golden statue representing the sun. Walt Disney Imagineer... One of California's biggest landmarks. Some people love the sun.

Are they the sunshine state or something? I believe they are and it is very sunny. The issue with a big statue of the sun is there is also the real sun when you're in a thing. So, you know, that's kind of the thing. We can get that for free, just down the road. Walt Disney Imagineer Kevin Rafferty described it as something that, frankly, you could have seen that at a shopping mall in Newport Beach. It's like, why is that here?

that were very bitter. That's great. The park was not successful for a number of reasons and a lot of people have analysed why since. I've just made a little list of them. I didn't want to do the whole thing because I was getting a little over, over, over, zealous.

The California theme, obviously. On opening day of Disneyland, Walt read an opening dedication that featured the words. Here, age relives fond memories of the past. and here youth may savour the challenge and promise of the future. The vision for these parks was to literally transport guests to different times and places, and this park was recreating things down the road. On top of this, a significant proportion of guests are locals and passholders.

Unlike Walt Disney World, Disneyland was and still is largely a local park. So just for context, I'll come back to when I lived in L.A. I was living in Hollywood. I was living around the corner from the Chinese theatre, from like Hollywood Boulevard. And, you know, you stress sometimes, you're living there. That's where you buy your groceries. I then went to Disneyland as like a weekend away escape

and they have a recreation of Hollywood Boulevard. They have your supermarket there. Why is there not a... Same people working there? It's very confusing. It's literally insane. The other reason is 9-11. That stopped international travel.

It got in the way. Same year. Yeah. So what month was it opening? It opened in February. Yeah, okay. So had a little run. That had a little run.

In a pre-9-11 world. And then... And then everything changed. International travel went out the window. Domestic travel went out the window. It was at the time one of the three times Disneyland had closed. It was immediately after 9-11. 11, they were like, this might be a target, let's shut it down, work it out.

So it shut for, I think, two days after that, which at the time, it was, I think it had shut down then when JFK died and there was one other, like after a earthquake. And now it's been closed for like six months. Yeah, wow. But at the time, that was one of the few reasons that had shut down. Number three is a lack of a berm. Now, according to WDW info.com, the berm is a dirt wall that surrounds many Disney parks. particularly castle parks such as the Magic Kingdom or Disneyland,

with the goal of visually separating the outside world from the one of fantasy and adventure within. This, I'll say, this is seemingly very niche, but when there is literally a suburb and IHOPs just outside, it's actually subconsciously very important. On multiple attractions at Disney, California Adventure, nearby hotels, power lines, radio towers, and the Anaheim Convention Center

are all visible to guess, reducing the sense of immersion. The other reason is just like the lack of Disney magic. There's an ad that you can watch for when it opened, and it's Woody and Buzz looking at Disney California Adventure, and the princess, they're like, what is this new place? And in it, they're saying, are there rides? They're like, yeah, and then in it the princesses say, are they princes?

And they go, no. No, it's weird. Number five. Who scripted that? No. No, no, he goes, no, but there is a big grizzly bear. It's like, well, that's not as good as a prince. Something for everyone.

Number five, the head of the park's Paul Presler, who by all accounts was a corporate stooge, relied on merchandising and retail staff instead of imaginers to design the bulk of the park. This led to the park having a serious, a serious lack of rides compared to retail experiences, and a lot of the rides that were there were off the shelf. Some of the attractions were Soren over California.

That was the one unquestionable hit of the park. It's a motion flight simulator that employs a mechanical lift system, a projection, artificial sense, and wind to simulate hang gliding over the best sites of California, which is a thrilling experience. Superstar Limo, which is a slow. limo drive through California in Los Angeles. Yes.

You can just get a little limo ride. The best part is of that. I'll actually... That's great. This is the best one because the line was a recreation of LAX. So the idea of the stories you land in LAX and then you go on a...

Oh my God. Because on the Simpsons, they parody theme parks and they have the line simulator. That is basically what they're doing. that. Literally. The airport line simulator. L-A-X for anyone who's been there is the worst airport in the world.

The idea that in a theme park, they're recreating the worst theme park in the world. The worst place, the airport in the world. And then what happens then is you then get into a limo and write around at this, like, celebrity audio animatronics of such early 2000 celebrities as Drew Carey, will be Goldberg, the host of who wants to be a millionaire. And originally it was going to be...

Eddie McGuire. Yeah, Eddie McGuire. I don't know. That's great. And he's just saying some crooks shit. Yeah. And originally it was going to be like a high-speed thing to get to a premiere,

but they were designing the ride in 1998. They were pretty close to finishing high-speed limousine, 1998. Yeah. Incest Diana. Died in a crash. from that. So then their alternative rather than scrapping the ride

was to just make it a slow ride. I do remember when in 1997 when Diana died, everything changed. Everything changed. This is the two biggest moments. I love that the two biggest, most traumatic moments in sort of that period in history, negatively affected a theme park in California.

And that's like why, that's the context I'm giving it. And my personal favourite, the sourdough tour. Oh my God. What? I was just going to throw that. Would you like to hear about the sourdough tour? So it was a tour where they talked to you about the sour dough and how they make sour dough and the history of sour dough.

Then at the end you could have some sour dough. This is not what I picture a Disney park to be like. No, no. You could argue that it's a bit shit. The best part is it's I think Colin mockery or was someone from that show from the improv.

Whose line? Who's line? And Rosie O'Donnell, I believe. Just video of them going, come on, let's teach you about sourdough cracking jokes. I mean, that does. It sounds like it could be all right,

but it's not a Disney. No. No, and also it's not. It's not coming. There's someone about that sounds kind of. Well, you get a free slice of sourdough. Yum. You get to see them making the sourdough.

I love bread. I love eating bread. Love a sourdough. Absolutely. It feels like a lot of tension would be built up when they're talking about bread. I just like, man, I can't wait eat some of this bread. You get to see some of the bread. Yeah.

All the different stages of bread. I mean, you can make jokes, but that sounds like an experience. It really is, it really is, I think, the clearest distillation of what happens when you get the retail. and dining people to create an attraction. They have you walk through a kitchen and look at sourdough that you can then buy. A really bitter baker who's like, everyone eats the sourdough,

but nobody asks how you make the salado. Or like when they were having those blue skies in Colorado, like one morning, one of them just got a fresh, hot slice of sourdough, and just went, this is it. Imagine this is it. This is it. This is going in. Let's open, let's pull back that curtain.

Tell the story. Have you ever been to Victoria's sort of Disneyland alternative? Victoria. Ned Kelly Lotton Sound Show and Glenn Rowan? No. You've got to get, you love theme parks. I mean, it's a bit smaller, but it's all, it's all animatronics. I love.

And like pre-recorded gunshots. And it was built like decades ago and it hasn't changed since. Wow. I love that. Yeah. If you're ever driving, if you ever drive in Melbourne or Sydney, it's not too far off the path. That's amazing.

You really should drop into yourself a favour. Look, I really, then, it all fell apart here in my, I need to be full disclosure here. My piece, my written piece, kind of fell apart at this point because I went into maybe a little too much detail up top, which we could argue as fair. We know this is all in your heart and in your mind already. Just let it spew forth.

All right then. All right then. We are fascinated. It did very, very badly. No. It did very, very badly. But they pretty much started getting to work straight away fixing the problems. It became one of those moments where $600 million is like a lot of money to spend.

But it's also not. It's also not. Yeah. And if you spend $600 million on something, you, you, you, you, you, Or if you don't spend enough money, you're going to lose more money than if you spend the right amount of money, if that makes sense. You've got to spend money to make money. Yeah, that's what it's all about. I've always said that.

And people quote me on it. That's absolutely right. And you are very wealthy. I am. You're such a filthy capo. Oh, yeah. Proudly. You spent a lot of money in your time.

I've spent too much money. They shut down the superstar limo ride pretty quickly turned it into a monster's ink, right? What? Drew Carey. I'm so sorry. I never got to see it in that bro. my heart. That's amazing that, yeah, they just

slowed it down. It's such a weird decision. It feels like, like a small, you know, like it doesn't feel like a big thing like Disney would make a decision like that. It's going to be fast. Just do it slow. The limo get stuck in traffic. It's fine.

It's so weird. It happens to limos. It's a realistic experience. LA famously has terrible traffic. I can't believe I've never heard of this. Everything about it is so odd. It's very It's very, very special. It's particularly the sourdome bread. You learn about bread.

It's the Disneyland. Right, you'd be looking across the road at kids having the time of their lives whizzing around around the rise. You'd be like slowly plotting through with Rosie O'Donnell. Tell you about bread. It's so weird. Well, I'd be right. I think that some people would only have one day to spend at either park and they go,

oh, let's go to the new one. That's got to be hot, bangin. And then you're right, Matt. You are seeing people on that new Tower of Terror. or whatever it is, because that's so tall. You can see people going, yeah! Whilst your hands are like needing some sourdough. Oh, no, you didn't actually get to need the salad.

You watched the air. You watch Ryan Stiles make sourdough. Oh, my God. The other part that I also love was they had a part, like the agriculture of California, and they had just some tractors. that you could just sit on. And apparently...

Now it's Wobby's World. It is Wobby's World. Where you get on the fake tram, even though you've caught the tram out there to go to Wobby's School. They literally just tracked as you can sit on. So they shut down Superstar Limo. The drop tower that was planned for Disneyland,

they ended up building in California adventure. Try and get anyone. How did they shoehorn it into the Californian thing? Well, because it was Hollywood, the Hollywood Tower of Terror. was the original thing. They were going to make it a frontier drop tower. They made it at the Hollywood Tower of Terror.

Brilliant. That's brilliant. They're very smart. You just put Hollywood at the front. You could do anything. Here's the thing. You let the Imagineers do what they do. You give them a few billion dollars.

They're going to deliver. Then Bob Eiger came in charge. He took the place of CEO. And he described in an interview, he described it as a brand withdrawal. He basically said that any time, you don't commit to a brand, it's a brand withdrawal. And he invested $1.1 billion in fixing the park.

So some of the things they did was they changed it from a caricature to more of a celebration. The Paradise Pier, which was the Santa Monica Pier, recreation, they made it into an old-fashioned version of that. They got rid of the postcard entrance and changed it to a vision of Los Angeles when Walt Disney first arrived in 1937. So they tried to go back to that romantic idea of Disney's history.

They went from parody to pastiche, I would say. Like the golden age of Hollywood. And it's actually lovely when you go there now. That's what I'm sort of... Yeah, it sounds much nicer. Yes. Yeah. Still a little weird.

Yeah. Because you can see Hollywood up the road. But I'd rather see this old-timey pier. Does they do the holidays? Hollywood sign and all that as well. So they got rid of, they had stuff like that, they got rid of all of that. I think there might still have a bit of a Hollywood sign kind of thing, but it's mostly all gone. They added Carsland, which was...

The car park came back. I really like that. Carsland. Which you would think doesn't work, but it actually does work because Carsland is all about, or the movie is all about Route 66, which ends at Santa Monica Pier, so it connects to Paradise Pier. They then changed Paradise Pier to Pixar Pier,

which works a little bit less well than the Castle End concept. They changed then Hollywood Tower of Terror to Mission Breakout, the Marvel Boys in Space, also doesn't quite work as well. And to conclude. So they've slowly just backed away from the California idea. So what happened is they leaned into the California. There's been this,

it's almost like a graph, if you will, of like it was really bad. And then it got more and more classy. And then they just like started adding more and more. But here's the thing, right. It was always a bit. And like, it's a really fun ride. You go on the ride. and then who's the space Marvel people?

Guardians of the Galaxy. Guardians of the Galaxy. You're in the Guardians of the Galaxy. It's a lot of fun. And most people don't think that much. Yeah. Most people don't go, why is this in Hollywood land?

Yeah. Most people are like, oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. They probably made it in Hollywood at some point. It's a Hollywood movie. I think they filmed it in Atlanta, but it kind of works. It doesn't have the history, the detail.

and the perfection of Disneyland. But a lot of people will tell you it's the better park. It has better food. So the sourdough thing's still there? It has better rides and don't worry it. It still has. This is my final ride. It still has the salad dough tour.

That's the new bucketless goal for me to do the sourdough walk. Because it's going to go. And, you know, I think we are, this is an escape. I do escapism. You do escapism. We shouldn't talk too much about the state of the world. world. But the state of the world means that I don't think they're going to get to getting rid of the sourdough tour as quickly as they were going to. But it's still there. And let me tell you,

it's very special. So you've done the sourdough tour? Yeah, that was the first thing I did. So I'd been to Disneyland a couple of times, but I'd only ever been there for a day. So when I went to California Adventure Park, I was so excited about this notion. And you go there and they give you a little free piece of sour dough. It's not even a slice. It's like a tiny little, tiny little piece. This is one of the weirdest things I've ever. I love that they didn't get rid of it.

Like Bob Iger came in and he was like, all right, we've got to change this up, we've got to make this better, we've got to like really get the best rides. It has the best rides now. Soren is one of the best rides. It's incredible. The mission breakout is so much fun. And Creti Coaster, which was originally California Screaming.

Really great rights. That is a pun. Okay. California screaming and Incredica coaster. Yeah. Because it's a, yeah, I mean, because it's not the same word as dreaming. It's just, it's changed the word,

but the pun is because it rhymes. It's the sound alike. Yeah. A sound alike thing. I feel like I'm getting close to all the time. Thanks for teaching us. Thank you. Yeah.

Thank you, Zach. You've taught us a lot. Did you like California Adventureland? Yeah. I want to go. I'll go there before I go to the. the old one. Yeah. No, I wouldn't recommend. No, no, still going to the original.

I was literally about to ask if you've got one day, which one would you say is better? I would say if you've got one day, go to, go to Disneyland. I mean, it's the place. It's the O.G. It has great rides. It's got the history. And I know a lot of people, when they go to a theme park, they're not as, they're not there for the history per se. But you do feel it. It's got like a, the reason I fell in love with it when I went, because a lot of people assume I must have gone as a kid, and that's why I'm obsessed. I went like five years ago.

Love this. And the reason I became obsessed with it was because I, I remember, I remember I was on like a work trip, and the people were like, like, I call it a work trip. I was there with Google and YouTube. And I was like, oh, you've got a free day. Let's go to a theme park. We can either go to Universal or we can go to Disney.

like, oh, Disney, that's Kitty. That's like, I'd rather go to Universal. I got outvoted and we ended up going and you go there to Disneyland. And it's the entrance has got nothing to do with Disney. It's like a train station. And then you step in and the main entrance has nothing to do with Disney. It's like a recreation of Disney's childhood town. It's called Main Street USA.

There's a castle at the end. There's all these things that have nothing to do with the corporate brand. oh, this is, this is a creative project. This is a single person's creative venture. And then it's been added on. It's been plus there's better rides have been put in. You can now like go to Star Wars and do all the fun stuff. Like Eisner did a lot of really cool stuff.

But there's something to the creative vision of the place that is underrated, I think. So I would say go to Disneyland. Okay. We'll have to drag away from the sourdough experience. Yeah. Well, no, we just have two days. Yeah. I'm going to say.

We just have to make sure we have two days. Because we're not missing out and Saturday. Because you've got to go to the sound like experience. I need to see some classic California sites without leaving Disney. Yeah. That's true. That's what I want. It's very funny.

That's great. It's very, very funny. And it's one of those things. Like, I think most people that go now are like, oh, that one has all the best rides. It's got better food. It's all right. Disneyland. kind of like cute and fun too.

Like it's people don't, but when you know the history, there's something so funny about it. Like they've done so much good work. It's a good theme park now. It's worth the like hundred and something dollars it costs to go. It really is worth it.

Yeah. But deep down is just the shittest idea that has ever come out of corporate America. So good. So good. And that's why I love Disney's California. How many have you been? So you said there's eight?

So there's 12. 12. Oh, this is, like, I really am, I love this shit. So there's 12 parks, but there's, there's, there's less resorts. So there's two parks at Disneyland Resort, so Disneyland California Adventure. At Walt Disneyland, no, world, there's Magic Kingdom, which is kind of very similar to Disneyland. There is Epcot, which we talked about, which is sort of like not the city. It's kind of a world showcase, future world kind of thing.

Very 80s. Which I've not been to. Animal Kingdom, which is like halfway between a zoo and a theme park. But plus there's Avatar land there now. Okay. Because, you know, why not? Oh, that's come. Yeah, the new Avatar movies are coming.

Yeah, you may as well just do. There's six more Avatar films or something. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of Avatar films being made. They funded them all in one go. and there's, I can't remember for six, but there's like a bunch of sequels. No way. And they're all being made at the same time.

Wow. Yeah, it's interesting right, because everyone's forgotten about it. Yeah. But it was huge of the time. It was the highest-grossing movie of all time, yeah. Yeah, it's an odd story. But crazy to go, well, obviously, people will want six sequels.

Yeah, just very confident. Start with one and see how it goes. I, I, I was, I'm a big believer, because I had my doubts, but I'm like, all right, James Cameron has always been on the money. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

But, but, little Disney connection, Jeffrey Katzenberg, who was the head of the like film studio at Disney during the Disney decade, left and created DreamWorks, has never gotten it wrong. So all the Disney movies you love was Jeffrey Katzenberg. Then he left and made Shrek. Disney went downhill. He made Shrek, he made Trek. God damn.

And that was great. So it's like this guy knew what was up. And then he had an idea a few years ago, a new streaming service. And everyone was like, sounds kind of naf. but he's never been wrong. And that streaming service was a streaming service named Quibi. I don't know if you guys know anything about Quibi. The Quibi was around for about three months.

It cost them $1.7 billion they raised. And it's short for quick bites and you could watch things both vertically and horizontally. And it was very, very bad. They did a lot of bad stuff and it was terrible. And that makes sense. me think that maybe James Cameron doesn't know what he's doing and the Avatar sequels are going to suck as bad as the first one did. Nearly everyone, their hot streak ends at some point.

Has to. Yeah. Yeah. And like, I don't know, about Avatar 2. What about 3, 4, 5? How do you think of those? Or 6? 6, 7, 8, 9. But I will say they released a behind the scenes picture because there's a lot of underwater stuff for Avatar 2. So where was Avatar land? Did you say? That's in Animal Kingdom. Sorry, I should get back to what is already a diversion from the presentation I finished. So there was Animal Kingdom and then there is a place called Hollywood Studios, which is very, has like links to, it was basically because Orlando Universal Studios was going to open,

so they just bet them to it. And in Paris they have Euro Disney, which is now is called Disneyland Paris, which is very, very beautiful, but a little rundown, apparently I've not been. Did that turn into a success after it's tough start? I think they kind of got it rolling. Yeah. But what happened was they promised a second park and then they lost a lot of money there.

They lost a lot of money at Disney, California Adventure. So then they opened a Hollywood Studios themed park there, which is apparently just like very bad. Like it's just like three airport hangers with some stuff. And then Hong Kong Disneyland, again, they didn't have money because of the things I've just mentioned. Also not great. Shanghai Disneyland, which is apparently great.

I've been to Hong Kong. I've been to California. Cool. Yeah. I guess it's cool. Is it a bucket list for you to see them all? Yeah, definitely. I think I'm, you know, funny on Shanghai.

Mm-hmm. Because, you know, it's like co-owned by the mainly Chinese government. And they're a bit crook, aren't they? Oh, you're going to... Okay. He brought your politics here. I thought I told you to check that at the door. I'm sorry.

You're having to go on the capos before. Here we've let her go. But yeah, that's my little love letter to Disney California adventure. Zach, that was great. Fantastic report. Thank you so much. Yeah, well done. Thank you.

Do you feel, okay, generally people will finish and then we'll stop recording and they'll say, was that okay? That felt terrible. and we have to tell them that we all feel that every time. Years in, we still feel that. Yeah, we still go, was that okay?

And the others go yes. Yeah. So. We want to tell before, just in case there's any doubt, it was terrible. It was really bad. Yeah, absolutely. Well, here's what happened is I wrote a lot of detail and then I got to dot points about halfway through.

But I think I really like picked it back up at the end. Oh, that's sourdough tour. We love. Yeah, that's saved everything. Honestly, what, all we, all the dot points. The only reason we knew there were dot points is because you mentioned it a lot. Yeah.

Otherwise, I would think we would have even noticed. What I should have done is bluffed. Yes. You just knew. You just knew. You know, you knew your shit. Yeah. It's in your soul.

I can feel it. What's your pick of the Australian ones? Like, which are basically all in Queensland, aren't they? Yeah, well, in all seriousness, I'm very excited for all the borders to open because I'm keen to go back. I haven't been in so long that I couldn't say. I'm sure they're all not great by comparison.

Probably Warner Brothers Movie World. It's fun fact about Warner Brothers Movie World. They hired, when they built the first part of it, they hired someone who was involved in the hub and spoke design of the original Disneyland. So it was one of his last projects. So there's a little bit of movie world that has that Disneyland sort of.

The magic. But from photos that I've seen, it's gone a little... Yeah, I went to all for the year that California World Open in 2001. Oh, okay, great. And, yeah, so I was in school and it was exciting. I've never, I still haven't been to any of the real, like the proper American ones. So I don't know how to compare it. And they were all pretty exciting.

But I think I remember ranking it at the time, Dream World was the best. Yeah. then Wet and Wild, then Movie World, then SeaWorld. Here's my question to you. Do any of you remember the Gremlin's ride at Movie World? No. There's a video online about it, and it's really very funny. It's a very funny, very weird ride.

Because Movie World, the whole thing was you're at the movies. You, like, experience the movies. Right. So, like, how do we do, like, a movie, how do we do a ride about Gremlins, which everybody loves, it's the early 90s? but also go with this like behind the scenes DVD extras don't exist yet theme. And they went, people went, the ideas you went and you're watching things like clips of movies and then the gremlins take over and then you go on the ride and the gremlins are there

but then also Beetlejuice is there and then like the Gremlins and Beetlejuice fight and then I think Beetlejuice wins. You're like, thanks Beatlejuice and that's the end of the ride. That's real weird. And then apparently when they recreated movie world in Germany and they recreated that ride, but Beetlejuice wasn't as successful. So it's Alf?

Oh my God. So this is the attention to detail Disney has, that they lost for a moment, but that Movie World has less of. Which has its own charm, I think. Speaking of Beetlejuice, I've watched it the first time, I'm just on Halloween just gone.

It was pretty good. But someone was saying, I was reading online that Tim Burton's another one who who sort of seemed like to everyone a genius could do no wrong and then sort of fell off a cliff. I can't remember what the movie it was. And there was a theory I read that as his hair style was deteriorated, so was his films. I heard a theory about Tim Burton that was as the bigger his budget, the worst the film.

Right. Which I think is pretty good. That can happen, I think. Yeah. Because yeah, you can do more stuff. People say that about the Star Wars guy as well, right? Yeah. You did better.

The earlier films were better because he had to improvise. What's interesting when I was doing my research for this was there's a clip in the Imagineering Story, which is a series on Disney Plus, which is very funny, very good, but very funny if you know the full story because there's a lot of like this wonderful thing. I'm like, I know that that sucked. I've watched other things. about it. But there's a clip of Michael Eisner saying, you know,

I actually think, you know, a smaller budget can really, like, help creativity, like exactly that logic. And then they, like, cut to a shot of just, like, this giant orange ride that they had at Disney, California. It's like, this is the man who led to the sourdough tour. Yeah. Sometimes you need the money. Yeah.

Love the sourdough. It's the best bit. Oh, it's so good. I can't wait to go and do the sourdough ride. Well, that brings us to everyone's favourite section of the show, the fact quote or questions section, which has a jingle, I think it goes like this. Fact quote or question.

Ding. He always remembers the ding. So in this section, Zach, our Patreon supporters, who go to patreon.com slash 2GornPod, and if they're on the Sydney-Shineberg deluxe memorial, rest in peace edition level. And I can only imagine,

if the great Sid Shineberg created a theme park, it would probably be similar to the one we talked about today. He is an ideas, man. He is not great ideas, but a lot of them. He would have approved of the Salvador experience. He's the one, we learn about him in the Back to the Future episode where he wanted to rename it Space Man from Pluto. And he wanted a chimp.

A chimp instead of a dog? I think he actually, I can't, I think maybe he was the one who made him change from a chimp to a dog. And he said there's never been a hit movie with a chimp in it. Yeah, that's it, yeah. He had all these weird logics. And, I mean, that one was fine. The dog was fine.

But, yeah, they were like Space Man from Pluto. Apparently, Spielberg sent a message back saying, we got your memo very funny. We're having a great laugh about it. So he'd be too embarrassed to actually fight for it. Space man from Pluto. Was there any proposal to make it about Space Man from Pluto? So there was a scene where when Marty arrives back in time,

he's wearing this plutonium protection suit. And so he kind of looked like a spaceman. And they were going to, he said, we write in one other thing that will connect it to it. And that's all it would have been. And how baffling that would have been for the public. Back to the future, what I love about that is there's those moments where now we see, that's one of the greatest names.

Yeah. Like back to the future is a really, Like it's kind of probably why it was successful. The idea that there would have been a conversation around that really tickles me. The place of creativity. And I've been the guy voting against the things, you know? Yeah, you want to go to Universal World. But the idea of being the guy that was like, back to the future.

Yuck. Shouldn't you go forward to the future? Shouldn't it be about a spaceman from Pluto? I would have called it quibbles. Quimmy. Quimibis. Quimis. So when people sign up on that level,

they can give us a factor quote or a question. We read out a few each week. They also get to give themselves a title. First one comes from Daniel Headley. It's given himself the title of resident do-go onologist. Do-go-onologist? Yeah, that's probably it. Yep.

Do-go-onologist. Thank you. And Daniels asked the question here. And I don't read him until I read him, Zach. That's great. That's good. That's important. So far, there hasn't been anything particularly offensive that I've had to go, ooh.

Thank goodness. So Daniel writes, there are only three countries in the world that don't use the metric system. Liberia? Is that right? Liberia? Am I saying that right? Yeah. Because you could also say Liberia, but it's Liberia.

Yep. Ugh. Not because I'm thinking, anyway. Thinking Libya? I'm thinking Libya. Yeah. Liberia, Myanmar and the United States. Wow.

That number might be down to two. In 2018, Liberia Commerce and Industry Minister Wilson Tarpay said the government plans to adopt the metric system in order to promote accountability and transparency in trade. I thought this a question. I reckon that's a fact. I said, yes, I copied and pasted this after Googling most interesting facts, but hey, it's still interesting.

That is pretty interesting. That's really weird. It's definitely a fact. Yeah, well, if it is a fact, I'm assuming it's a fact. Yes. That's my answer. Yes. I wanted to at least a question mark at the end. My answer is sourdough.

Lock it in, Eddie. Thank you so much, Daniel Headley for that great question. Next one comes from Dominic Stevenson, who's called himself the Rector of Burton Coggles. I don't understand it, but I love it. And Dominic has offered a fact, which is HC and Pacific Ocean is pronounced differently. Wow.

He wrote the wow. I agree. Pass. Pass. Pes. Osh. Oh. Pass.

So you've got a c and osh. That is very good stuff. I'm going to be honest. I was saying, I was saying, I think I said it before the podcast, not on the podcast. I mean, doing a lot of the press. And a lot of like, yesterday I did a lot of the index. depth ones. So I've been very like on for a really long time. And I'm just loving just like,

oh. Oh, wow. Okay. Give me that. Cool. That's interesting. Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah, sit back and relax. Enjoy. Gum, yum, yum, yum.

This next one comes from Maine Gallagher, who's given themselves a title of theme hospital administrator and roller coaster tycoon. Well, an appropriate episode for them to be giving us a question. Well, let's see. And are you excited for Roller Coaster Tycoon console edition? That was a question to this person. Oh, fantastic.

I'm engaging with... That is coming out soon, is it? Yes, it is. Will it be on the Nintendo Switch for Jess and I? Oh, I have no idea. I've no idea. Fingers crossed. I did play a bit of that game, though.

A lot of fun. Yeah, right. Well, Maine, I'm saying Maine, M-A-E-N. Maine, I reckon? Mayan? Main. Maine writes, I'm planning post-lockdown holidays.

I'd like to come to Australia. Where would you recommend? I like kitsch nonsense, like world's biggest whatever, and comedy and pubs. I do not like big spiders. I'm in the UK if that makes a difference. Oh, if I only had a Melbourne land or something. Yeah, God, that'd be good.

Kitch, Kitch, Kitch, Kitt. Because I love Kitch. That's why I love the Disneyland. Yeah. Kitch is like my number one. Is, like, Tiki? Do you think the Ned Kelly's light and sound show would equal Kitch? Is it too Kitch?

Is it like... Sovereign Hill's pretty fun. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Sovereign Hill's fun. That's Kitch. And then the big, the big things. Big banana. The big banana.

Which is not big enough to warrant its big title, the big banana. Which is part of its charm. The big banana is the original. So it didn't have anything to scale against it. I learned that just recently. That's great. I'm listening to a Bill Bryson audio book where he travels around Australia.

That's fantastic. He went to the Ned Kelly Lund sound show. I have to go to this. And he couldn't believe it was worth $15. Too high? Yeah. Oh, rough. But he also, but he loved it.

He's like it was worth every dollar going in. Worth all $15. Probably going in. Because I'm guessing he wrote this book in the 90s. And the owner who would have also been running. it and taking the money at the front, they said that's $45 for the three of you. $45, is it good?

And the audio book's got the guy does this bad, broad Australian accent when he does Australian characters. He goes, good, mate, look, Disneyland in there. Incredible. Apparently Dream World started as, that it was going to be Australia's Disneyland. And like every single place,

So I was just like, oh, we could just put some roller coasters here. It's like it's a lot easy to just put roller coasters in there. Spread out some roller coasters. So it's called the Ned Kelly Story now. Oh. And it is number 12 of 12 things to do in Glenn Rowan. Oh, true. Wow.

That's not a big town. Have you heard about the Titanic dining experience in, I don't know if it's like what's happening with it. And Williamstown that one? Yes, yeah. Apparently it's a three-hour theater. show in Williamstown. And the guy who created it just loves Titanic

and you sit and eat like you're on the Titanic. Yeah, there's different classes. You can go first, second and third class. Amazing. That sounds phenomenal. My favourite part is it actually works because people did sit and eat on the Titanic until the point

that it starts sinking. Because the idea of like, oh, dessert. The idea of finishing your dessert while the ship goes down is so funny to me. That's so funny. Does water come up on their ankles or anything like that? Look, I don't know, but I'm going as soon as I can. I've not been to many theatre restaurant shows because I imagine I would love them, but I think they're a bit like back to IHop pancakes where they're great for the first bite and then you have to sit through it for three hours. Three hours, my goodness. Yeah. And I just

imagine the food's probably not very good because they're not focusing on that. Yeah. And it's just sort of that mass produced. Yeah. Yeah. That's fun. Just the final note on the Ned Kelly story. It says what a traveller is saying. And the first thing is, quote,

this authentic reenactment is likely to scare young children and the occasional adult. That's what travellers are saying. It's a bit scary. Authentic. Incredible. So, yeah, I guess for Maine, that's probably my big tip. Javut. What's your big?

Big banana, big pineapple. Yeah. Yeah, I would definitely say those things. It's hard to know, isn't it? It's hard to know your own kits, your own sort of countries quirks, you know, because I think that's, you've got to ask outsiders what the weird needs to see it. It's just like, oh, we just live here. Yeah.

We're not going to see the weird sites. We're like, I love how Australians are always like, you know, Melbourne's as good as the European cities. And it's like, then why would they leave Europe? It's a very long flight. Let them enjoy the city that they've never been to. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, what does that even mean as good as?

Yeah. Like there's a, like a rating, you can raid a city somehow? Yeah. And it's very strange. And it's always like, oh, why are we always advertising the crocodiles and the desert? You know, we've got beautiful theatre companies. And so, because they have them in Europe. Yeah.

They don't have big deserts and crocodiles. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, just go to the Great Barrier Reef. If you don't like, if you don't like big spiders, yeah, I mean, you see, yes, I wouldn't worry too much about spiders and stuff. You're not going to see them. Depending on where you're going to. go but yeah I mean I've taken out three spiders from my lounge room this week and to put

outside how big are we talking just you know like 20 cent piece yeah right so that I don't know what big means yeah and I'd assume they're not not gonna harm me big pineapple yeah where's that it'd be up north it's in Queensland I believe and and I think it's quite big yeah but I was quite small when I went to the pineapple so who knows now it might be you know just a bit tall than you yeah where's the big humpty dumpy you I gotta a photo of me when I'm very young in front of the big Humpty Dumpty. There's a big Humpty Dumpty. Yeah, I don't know where that photo was taken, but...

I've just looked up the Big Humpty Dumpty and what travellers are saying is likely to scare young children and the occasional adult. So, Maine, yeah, we're saying go to see the big things and maybe get to Glen Rowan if you're in country Victoria to see the the Ned Kelly story. Plus there's the Big Ned Kelly out there as well.

Yeah, on the same street, the Big Ned Kelly's right there as well. So you can knock off two and one there. And obviously get to the Titanic. Get to that Titanic. Maybe not. Maybe not the Titanic one. Let me go and I'll report back to you three. And the last one I would do is from Odie Matthews.

And this is a quote. Odie writes, Hello. In honour of Veterans Day coming up in the States, when did he write this? He wrote this about a month ago. I assume it's still coming up. Yes, it is.

It's November 11th. Oh, remember, November 11th. So it's right now. Oh, yeah, it's today. It's the day this comes out. Oh, my God. It's the same as our Remembrance Day. And also, the fifth anniversary

for when we first ever uploaded this show. Oh, my God, it's a big day today. Remember, remember, November 11. So, Odie's going to share some of his favorite quotes from Chesty Puller, one of his favorite reports is a report. You did, Bob, right? Yeah. Number one, son, when the Marine,

core wants you to have a wife, you'll be issued one. Two, we've been looking for the enemy for several days now. We're finally found them. We're surrounded. That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them. Justy. My rat. Three, he's a war hero.

He was like a... I just did a little Google. This is what I'm doing. I'm like keeping track. He's a multi-metal medal winner. Three. And he's like, I think, because we've got quite a few American service people listeners. Yeah, right.

And I think they, they, a bunch of them have said Chesty Pooler to them is just like, their God, if I'm remembering correctly. I'm looking at a photo of him with like a bulldog wearing a little army hat and I'm on board. Love that. Is it because of the dog? Yeah, the dog's very cute. Yeah. That'll do it.

And the third one is, where the, where the head? How hell do you put on a bayonet? Where the hell do you put the bayonet? He said this while at a flamethrower demonstration. Apparently, Puler wanted to be ready to stab them and he sat on fire. He really just loved. He loved war, I reckon. Chesty.

I think these are pretty funny. And as a marine vet, I also want to say, thank you. A lot of the people in my unit loved this episode when it came out. Thanks for everything. There you go. That's nice. Empify. Latin.

Semperfy. Here's Odie. Oh, that's nice. I don't remember any of that. I wonder if you got to those quotes in the report. What a character. All right. And guests in the past have realized midway through

that this second part of the show goes about as long as the first way. I'm not aware of this segment. There's a very funny moment with your podcast, where it did go from an hour to an hour and 10, an hour and 20, an hour and 30. And I just assumed you were just getting a little more luxurious and then realized that it was this sort of... It's been a bit of both as well because the reports have been getting longer again lately.

We did our first one that was almost made three hours. Yeah. Amazing. And that was the reporter that was over two hours of it. And did you release the whole three hours? Yeah. That's great. I'm a big fan of this, though.

I like the settling in nature of it. The energy kind of changes. It's like the after party. Yeah, welcome. It's like, all right. Now it's just us and the patrons. Yeah, it really is us and the troublips. We've turned the music down and we're just having a chat.

So we also like to thank a few of our other Patreon supporters who support us on Patreon at the shout-out level. And Jessen always comes up with a little game based on the theme. Yeah. Maybe give him a ride. Yeah, give them a ride. Yeah. Or we could give them a Disney character.

Oh, that's fun, but we didn't really talk too much about characters. Well, there wasn't many characters. Yeah. You could give them... Michael Eisner was a bit of a character. Yeah, that's very true. You could give them like a bad corporate idea. Yeah, that's good.

Something around blue sky thinking in Denver. Yeah. I love that, except I just don't think I could come up with that many bad ideas. Yeah, maybe we come up with it. Other rides that, you know, like the bread experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. We'll come up with some sort of experience slash ride for them. Maybe you can use their name or where they're from as inspiration.

So first, Lee, if I may, I'd love to thank from, we're not sure where we're from actually. That's not super helpful. Use that as information, right? Here we go. Ainsley Frank. Ainsley Frank. Maybe the Anne Frank. No.

Ainsley, Hainesley Harriet, of course, is the, you know. is the over-excitable British chef who hosts the British version of Ready, Steady Cook. So maybe like a Ready-Steady Cook experience. What about whatever, so some people will bring their own food to the theme park to save money. What about you go to the experience and whatever five ingredients, people from the audience put on stage,

a chef has to come up with something out of that. But instead of a chef, it's just a 19-year-old employee who did a two-week course on how to do ready. Making it too. It's Rosie O'Donnell. There's a video introduction from Rosie O'Donnell. She's had to do every combination, pre-planned. So whatever it is, they type it in.

There's something, yeah. Five peanut butter sandwiches, two panadoles, a condom, a sasset of sugar, and a celery stick, and the Rosio Donald and whips it into something digitally. That's great. Thank you so much, Ainsley Frank. I think that's a fantastic idea. I'd also love to thank from Phoenix, Arizona. Sean Hoffman.

Okay. Phoenix. Something Phoenix related, maybe. Yeah, Rising. Mm. Rising Phoenix. Oh, okay. So a Phoenix would rise from the ashes.

Yeah. So it's a ride where you come through fire. Yeah. And it's very hot. Oh, okay. And quite dangerous. So it's like you're rising through the ashes. Yeah.

And then you get. shot up into the air for a bit. First, they make you dress as a bird. Yeah. Like a big elaborate bird costume. Yeah, but it gets singed every time. So it's a different bird costume every time. Wow, that's good.

I think that could be really good. I think Sean would love that. Yeah. Sean Hoffman. And finally, I love to thank from Harrod in Ohio. God's Country, America's Great Estate. Dean Coolly. What about, you know, Harrod's, of course, the famous

very expensive out-market department store in London. What if it's like a Harrod's recreation where you go in and spend too much money and you don't get that much? Yeah, okay, yeah. It's like going to spend the experience. It's sort of like from the out. Outside, it looks like a small version of Harrods.

And from the inside, it looks like a place where you can just buy all the merch. You can buy from all the other merch shops around it. But more expensive. But more expensive. It costs 10 times as much. Now we're thinking like corporates. Now we're thinking corporate. See, when you said your Phoenix idea, I was like, that's good.

But instead of what you've described, we just buy something from a shop and just make a really mediocre ride for cheese. and then charge people a lot of money for it. Yes. That's good. Oh, you are good. Yeah, I know what's up. Oh, darn.

We normally do three of these each, right? Yeah. Well, they're my three. So thank you so much to Ainsley, Sean and Dean. Oh, I'll go next then. Oh, wow. And I would love to thank from Houston, Texas. Love to thank Hannah Dunning.

Well, their basketball team is the Rockets. Okay. And Dunning, Dunny, maybe. You sit on a toilet. In a rock. So it's not the whole rocket. It's experiencing going to the toilet. Yeah.

How you shit in space. So you do it. Holy? Yeah, it's like a vacuum. So you pissed into a vacuum. I love that. That's great. I was thinking, though, we could talk to the people at the rocket,

see if we could do some sort of synergy thing. Maybe possibly like a video screen with some rockets play as they talk. We can upcharge them. Right. A really exciting opportunity. As you exit, you can buy some. Rockets merch. So like, when you're on the toilet,

like James Hardin comes out and like gives you a pet talk or something. Whilst you're on the toilet. Yeah. This is great. I'm going full corporate. That's not committing. You're honestly your value adding for sure.

That's very, very good. I'd also love to thank from what country is SE? Sweden, I think. Sweden. Oh, wow. Wow. And watch as I butcher this. Are you looking at up, Matt?

Yeah. Yeah, it's in Sweden, Jess. Great work. Oh, with 836 inhabitants in 2010. Wow. Wow. And that place is called, Jess. What does an umlaut do to an O again? It lengthens it, I think.

So it might be like Volsio? Yeah, I reckon. Maybe? I think that's a great interpretation. I would love to thank. Pashtar warfinge. Oh, beautiful. Pascha, warfinge from...

Sweden. Walshu. Okay. So... That's Swedish. I've got a fun idea. I just quickly googled Sweden's largest companies. So the H&M experience.

And basically the way the H&M experience works is you go in and you see sort of it's a cool fashion show. where you are the paparazzi and you sit down and you get to press a little thing, it makes little flashes, and on stage is different park employees doing the runway of the latest H&M clothes. Afterwards, you just walk through a small H&M store where you can purchase your favorite H&M clothes

and also the photos. And also the photos that you yourself. And then people come around to your house and go, who's that on the catwalk? like, oh, the 17-year-old that sells turkey legs. I took that photo. I took that photo. The H&M experience.

I think now we're starting to really cool. Yeah, now we're getting it. That's it. That's great. Thank you so much. Keizha. Thank you so much. Great name.

I would also love to thank from Hawthorne East here in Victoria. Love to thank Jemima Knox. Obviously the Hawthorne football team is the Hawks. Yep. They have a training facility that have built out in the outer east there. Maybe some sort of like Afl and Eastland. Have you ever done an episode? Sorry, this is off topic, but kind of very much on topic,

about the AFL experience? About the experience. Wasn't there, there was like an exhibition in the middle of the city in like the early 2000s? I reckon you should get Broden Kelly from Auntie Donner on to talk about this called the AFL experience. I don't remember that. You spent $50 to go and like,

kick a football at a video screen and then like watch a video of James Hurd being like, good on you, mate. Wow. Some execs went to Aspen, I reckon. Someone went to ask him that came up with that idea. Wow. So something like that maybe.

Yeah, that's good. So yeah, we have like a Hawthorne exclusive. And it's set in, it's, you go to the city. But it's as if you're in the eastern suburbs. Yeah. It's a recreation of Hawthorne. Yeah. That's great.

That beautiful. Is Hawthorne, does Hawthorne have Rivalry Cinema or Lido? Yes, both. You know, like a miniature... Sorry to break. A miniature, a miniature Lido cinema. You go in, you watch a 20-minute movie about the sights and sounds of Hawthor. And on the way out, Jeff Kennett shakes your hand.

Yes. Well done. Well done. A Jeff Kennet impersonator. But we don't want to make it... It's not like... current Hawthorne. This is like Hawthorne from 2006 or something.

Yeah, yeah, obviously. It's got to be sort of a classic Hawthorne. Yeah, absolutely. You can get on the number 70 tram and it just takes you around the outskirts of this Hawthorne land. Yeah, I love that. I like that. Oh, like the scenic railway at Luna Park.

Yeah, exactly, yeah. Love it. It's got a little tram. Ding, ding! That's fantastic. Pretty good. Driven by Nick Mason. Yeah.

Jamima Knox. Another great name. Jesus is a great batch of names here today. Very good. Oh, wait, is that my third? That's my third. Yes. I was going to just keep going.

I was having fun. I would like to think now from Manton in New South Wales, Sarah Smith. Sarah Smith. Okay. Not the Sarah Smith who hosts Breakfasters on Triple R. I think she lives in Melbourne. Manton. Glenn Manton was a footballer who played for Essendon

and Calton in the 90s in the early 2000s. What about it's like the Glenn experience? famous Glens, Glenn McGraar, Glenn Robbins. Glenn Garry, Glenn Ross, of course. The Glenn Shopping Centre in Glen Waverley. Oh, you could have a smaller version of the Glenn Rowan, Ned Kelly. Oh, yes.

A recreation of the... A smaller version of the smaller version of Glenn Rowland. Yes. Glenn World. This is great. Glenn World. All the famous Glens. And then the tagline's like, where everyone's a Glenn. Danny Boy would be. play a lot, only would have changed it to

Glennie boy. Oh, Glennie boy. Because it already has the lyric from Glenn to Glenn. But now you just, yeah, get rid of Danny. Yeah. That's off Danny. I love that. I think this could be really big. That's very good. That might be our best yet. You guys are not real corporate minds.

You're making the real money now. But now, what's the, where's the synergy come in here, though? Well, I think you'd maybe talk to different glens. You know, they're a representation, their management. And, uh, Maybe Glenn merch. I really just see, like, your favorite Glenn's.

Glenn 20. Glenn 20 involves. Spotted by Glenn 20. You can buy the merch has name tags. Hi, my name is Glenn. That's all they are. I reckon that the Glenn 20 experience, I really see something.

Remember in, like, the 90s where touch screens weren't very common? So, like, places like science works and stuff had touch screens. And you go in and there's these big, like, screens. and it's like a digital recreation of a messy kitchen and you use the touchscreen to clean the kitchen. That's my, the Glenn 20 experience. Oh, that's good. And afterwards, you just sort of maybe step into a Glenn 20 store

and buy some various Glenn 20 products. I should say that Glenn badges have both spellings of Glenn one N or two ends. Right. Oh, that's good to be inclusive. Thank you so much, Sarah Smith, from Glenn Manton, New South Wales. Thank you so, so. I'd like to thank now from Powys in Great Britain. Thinking that this is probably a Welsh place, that is James Burton.

I apologise if I've said that incorrectly there. Games? I think you got that right. It's your middle name. More on Powys. P-O-W-S. I've got to Google Powys. Yeah, P-O-W-Y-S.

Very Welsh. Okay. You didn't have a go out of the city though, Dave. The notice is skipped over the city. I didn't get to skip over shit. Yeah, no, I'm not going to have a crack in that one. Come on, Dave. Well and truly under the bus.

It is in Wales, absolutely. I'll start you off, lower. Now you have a go. Then it is C. Looks like cum trench. There is no vowels in the first word. That's amazing. And then the second word, there's a couple.

Lower. I'm not even going to, it would be offensive for me to have. have a crack to be honest. So I'm not going to have a go. But thank you to James Burton. James Burton. It would be offensive if you have a go. I've just called it cum trench. James Burton. Um, okay. Tim Burton. Yeah. Tim Burton. Tim Burton. Tim Burton. Tim Burton. Well, of course you got the Adelaide Crows player. The Birdman, Birdman, Burton.

Like a Tim Burton land is pretty great. Yeah. You know, I think that's one of those things where it could be awesome. But if you went, if you went to Denver, Colorado, you did your Coke. You came out of that. You do like Tim Burton, but only the stuff he's made in the last five years. Yeah, it's Willie Wonka. Yeah.

Especially the wrong Louis Wonka. It's like, it's all the things you got to that big eyes movie, which was pretty solid. But that's what the attraction is. Yeah. People looking around like, where? Edward Cesarhands. No. Nah, we're too expensive, the rights.

Yeah, we didn't want to get that. People are desperate to have a nightmare before Christmas t-shirt. I'm afraid we don't have those. I'm so sorry, but we do have the dark place or whatever. Where is that one about a vampire that no one really watched? Did you want a t-shirt of that? I saw that one at the cinemas. So do I.

Dark shadows. I think that was maybe the last one I saw at the, cinemas, you know what I mean? That was the one where I was like, I think... I think I'm done. I think I'm done. Okay, I don't think I'm done. He's not going to save this. I think someone needs to come in here and tell them to stop.

This is what happens when... This is what happens when art happens in a frictionless vacuum. She's like, can I do this? Yeah. There you go on. Someone has to start saying... No. Hey, we want to remake Dark Shadows

And we're going to have Johnny Depp do whatever the fuck he wants In makeup that's not very effective Can I do that? All right Yeah, sure Is $20 million dollars Yeah, his version of Dumbo Oh yeah, I didn't watch that

No, but apparently, doesn't it like, Have you seen it? No Apparently it's like, because the original Dumbo is only Like an hour and a bit Yeah, right So they were like, how do you redo a movie that's quite short.

People want longer movies now. Now most people would go, don't do it. Then the next thing you'd do is like maybe just pad it out a little, like just have a few more scenes. Make that terrifying pink elephant's scene longer and scarier. They love Disney movies, loved like just that weird crook bit that upset you. Kids movies then were just like, and we have to have that one scene that just gives them nightmares.

But there was that, that film. They just added another 40 minutes of plot. So apparently where the old Dumbo ended, this just kept going and he like goes to the city. What is he, babe? It's literally just like, Dumbo's day out. It's like, oh, it's too short. It's that, it's that like.

I got no problem with shorter movies. Yeah, it's fine. I don't know what. I'm starting to get annoyed that every film's gone for over two hours now. Yeah. The amount of like movies I've watched. with like the Leguizamaama that I've watched where it's like people have come in and complain,

they're going, it's only an hour and 20. And I'm like, I'm doing this every week. I welcome the hour of time. Thank you for making it now. Thank you. Oh, my God. I don't know there's a Beetlejuice 2 announced. Wow.

Yeah, all right. All right. All right. One more. So that's James Burton heading up Tim Burton land. And finally I would like to thank from Cot Hill, Oxfordshire, in Great Britain, Kate Doherty. Kate Doherty. Okay, Carlton player Sam Doherty.

Also Doherty's Gym. Oh, yeah. Doherty's Gym land? Muscle land? Yeah. Muscle land. Everything for your muscles. And there's all those cut out things where you put your head in and you're a very musly man.

And there's a lot of like skinny teenage boys. that are a bit musly wearing like fake mussels. Yes. I love muscle lamb brought to you by Doities. And yeah, the food court, everything comes in like in the style of a protein bar. Yeah. You get any meal in bars or it's seafood. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there is a gym. Like there's a, there's like a gym at the in there. But it's like not a real like kind of fun. It's almost like a play area.

Yeah. Yeah. They're like, yeah, instead of the big weights, it's all light. So everyone can look like your... Photo opportunities. They love, like, bad theme parks love a photo opportunity. They're like, the reason this corner has very little going on is for a photo. But yeah, you, like, it looks like you're lifting a big weight.

Yeah, and there's like, Arnie on the wall or something saying, you can do it or something like that. Yeah, you can be in that famous handshake with Arnie that became a meme. Oh, right, with him and some. From Predator. Carl Weathers. Oh, that's Carl Weathers. Him going arm to arm.

But maybe that's, maybe that's, they tried to get Arnie, but Arnie's like, no, I have an investment in Gold's gym. So, unfortunately, I can't be a part of the Doherty's project. So then it's Carl Weathers. It's you and Carl. It's you and Carl. Carl Weathers, he's in Arrested Development. Is that?

Is that Carl Weather? Yeah. And he's always stealing stuff. Yeah. That version of Carl Weathers would totally be up. He'll do you go, come in person, do it for, you finish eating that protein bar? I think muscle world sounds like the worst place on earth. Yeah.

Love it. I want to go there. I want to go there too. I'm imagining that the weights look heavy but they're really light, but the bars already have a bend in them, so it looks like you're lifting really. Oh, that's really funny. That's really. And there's like that, and they're kind of, they're made of a material that's not quite

durable enough. So within two or three years it really does just look like a soft foam. Because it's got chips in it and no one's really like making it work anymore. No one's replacing it. Yeah. Because it's muscle world. And they lose the Doities sponsorship after three years.

But you can see they've just spray painted over. Yeah. There's little independent gyms like actually actually this is too expensive for us. There's a brief stint of like fitness first to muscle world by fitness furs. Yeah.

It goes through all of the different gyms until they're like, no thank you. Oh, man. All right. Well, that brings to the last few people we need to thank. And these are new members in the Triptitch Club. People have been supporting us for three years on the shout-out level. Wow. They get inducted into the Triptich Club.

I'm standing at the door with the Velvet Road. I was so impressed by that three years. I became Owen Wilson. Quite my accident. Oh, wow. Wow. So the way I just works, Zach is I'll read out their name, let them in.

Jess has worked on the bar in this club. She's put together a cocktail, different one every week and some sort of hors d'oeuvres. Dave books the band. Maybe we could pass every one of these duties to Zach this week. So we usually have a live act that could be dead or alive. Anyone, anything can happen in this club. Performing live, who do you think we'd like to serenade our patrons tonight?

Is it just any... Anyone. So last week it was Sting. Oh, wow. singing this music of Sting. Yeah, which is nice of him to say yes to. Yeah. They don't always do that, but that's like...

They can sing the music of anything. But sometimes, you know, they could be dead. What's your dream gig? So it's like one artist is going to sing for them. Yeah, they're in the corner. There's a little stage set up and you can either go and rock out with them or you can just have it playing in the background. While you're thinking about it, Zach, Jess, what do we go for hors d'oeuvres and drinks?

Okay, well, in like a classic sort of theme park vibe. What's classic theme park food? Like, like chips. Corn dogs, hot dogs, popcorn, definitely chips. Oh, very large cotton candy. Yeah. Big cup.

I'll have three liters of milk, please. No problem. Your favourite drink of all times. Here's your very big cup. And who we got playing? Well, so here's the thing, right? I didn't think to make it theme park related. If it was theme park related, it would be a 19-year-old girl who looks a bit like Marilyn Monroe.

But because for some reason when she said artists, you know, usually I take a little while to think of someone. Like, in an instant, I've not thought of this for a very long time, but in an instant, I thought of William Shatner's spoken word. Common people. You remember that brief period when William Shatner did spoken words? That's great. That just came to me and I feel like I need to be honest to that. That's my truth.

I love it. Big fan of that. I think our Patreon supporters will love that too. Yeah, yeah, that's a treat. That's an absolute treat. All right, now Dave normally, he's like the hype man as they're entering. He'll hype them up based on their name and then Jess normally hypes up. Dave.

I don't hype him up. Maybe you could hype Jess up. Okay, for sure. me out. All right. I hope them up. There's only two inductees this week. Firstly, from Meviseret, Zeon in Illinois.

It's Michael Schneider. Yes. You won't be DeShnader. Come on in. Yes. I don't know what it means, but woo. Yeah, all right. I'm not entirely sure what we're doing right now, Mel.

It was a pun on denied. You won't be DeShnated. Yes, now I get it. Come on in. and from South Milwaukee in Wisconsin I think it is Samantha M. Hitchcock. Oh, Samantha M. Hitchcock.

She's Milwaukee in here. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Go for it. Yeah. Good for you for supporting for such an extended period of time.

All right. All right. Well, that brings us to the end of the episode. I guess before we go, we should say one more time, please do check out the new Netflix show, Arnie Donner's big old house of fun. Failed it.

Fantastic. We're so excited to see it. The trailer looks fantastic. There's a very good chance that by the time people are listening, even if they're listening as soon as it's come out, that I've already watched all of it. There's a very good chances that's happened. Is it bingable?

It's all dropping at once? Yeah, it's all dropping at once. It's six episodes. I would recommend binging it. You know, I think we've tried really hard. Sketch is a hard one to make. bingeable, but we tried really hard to give it like running jokes and bits and bobs. And it's like, it doesn't like have a arc because it's sketch, but it has like running

jokes and callbacks. And I think, I think the funnest way to do it is all at once. Yes. 12.1. AM Pacific time. Get that algorithm cooking for us. Please, God. Please.

And you can follow, we'll put your Twitter handle in the show notes. What's your best one to get onto? Is it Twitter or Instagram? It depends on what you follow, what you do. You do your best work everywhere. We'll put them all down there. And there's also not one but two podcasts where we can hear you on. There's the Auntie Donna podcast.

Yes. Which I've been getting quite into lately. Very, very funny stuff. We did, there's an episode called Funny Mums and Dad. which is my personal favourite. And we've got one, I think it's coming out this Saturday, I think, which is a funny mums and dad's sequel where funny mum and two funny dads are on a bus trip through Italy

and they meet a funny dad from America. It's a lot of fun. Sounds great. And there's also Leguizamaama with Mish. Yeah, which is more of this ilk, more of this kind of chitty-chitty, bit fun, bit silly, bit chill. talking about a movie you've never seen and never will. But you're like, that sounds interesting.

Maybe I'll get around to watching that and then you don't. You're probably like. And people can find us that do go on on Patreon and on email and on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, everywhere. Plugging it like, you were on Gmail. Congrats on the award. Oh, Jesus so much. That's very exciting.

Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We talked about it on book treat at the other show that we... Oh, yeah.

The idea that you guys were the guests on, but we haven't talked about on here that our web series was nominated for an actor. So thanks to everyone that watched that show. It's still available online. Check it on YouTube. Actors are...

For people overseas, it's the proper... proper... It's like our Emmy sort of Emmy Academy Awards thing and they have like a web series. So it's proper good guys. Oh yeah.

With a real deal. Thank you so much. That's okay. I just think it's important for when there's a person from the outside on, you can't tell your American and British listeners how big of a deal it is. You've got to be like, well, whatever.

So I can be like, that's a big deal. Thank God you're here. That's actually why we are should be here. All right, I'm done. I've said it now. Can you let me go? Thank you so much for joining us, Zach. Thank you. Sorry, Zachary.

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