Do Go On - 265 - Forrest Tucker: Master Escape Artist

Episode Date: November 17, 2020

With a career spanning six decades, most of which was spent in / breaking out of prison, you would think that Forrest Tucker would be a name we have heard a lot. You may have seen Robert Redford play Forrest in The Old Man & the Gun, but this is the story that inspired the movie. Jail breaks, petty crime and car chances. What more could you want in a podcast?Buy tickets to our live streamed shows, starting this weekend November 22nd:https://sospresents.com/catalogSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodBuy tickets to our previous streamed shows (there are 8 available to watch now! All with exclusive extra sections): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoonCheck out our web series: https://www.youtube.com/user/stupidoldchannel Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/01/27/the-old-man-and-the-gunhttps://time.com/5407081/old-man-the-gun-true-story/https://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/old-man-and-the-gun/https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-jul-27-mn-59992-story.html

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I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Hey, I'm Matt Stewart. And I'm Jess Perkins. Hey Dave, your Dave Warnicky, welcome to the show. Thank you and together. We are Yeah, moms, but Yeah, we each make up a cheek me the schwenk though So I'm just like I'm the crack. Is it nice how we'll always throw ourselves under the bus? We'll all throw ourselves in your moms, but ourselves under the bus. We'll all throw ourselves in your mom's butt. We've already lost a couple of new listeners.

You're very interested in the topic. They're already told. I'm not going to improv. And my default is a butt. I didn't see levels and you could say how I guess ended. Be honest, I'm at was level one just teaching you to say either your mum's butt or sphincter. They're like it's always funny. No no that was the first several as your mum's butt level two was sphincter. Okay that's why I didn't think of that. Yeah yeah yeah. That was a rough time in my life. It's funny to look back on now but jeez I don't think

I enjoyed a single second of it. But you persevered. Yeah yeah. And that says a lot about you. The way you look back on that is how I look back on my years of swimming lessons so there you go. And we were also about the same age. Yeah and we've we both bombed in those memories. I actually have no regrets. Wow, that's how you should be. Yeah. Despite everything.

I really feel like you learned from everything. And despite how I am, don't regret anything. But have you learnt to swim? God no. Yeah, I didn't think so. Don't throw me in a body of water. Mm-mm. All right.

So that will you had planned for Christmas. Yeah, yeah. Crossing it off the list now. Hey, Jess, you know what you do know. Yes. How to explain this show. Clock. Okay.

So what this show is, if you're a new listener especially, each week one of us goes off, we report a topic usually suggested suggested by the list, now we read about it, we watch stuff about it, we write out a little report, we bring it back to the other two who sit quietly and patiently and respectfully interject only when it's relevant. And somehow we've done that for five years. Can I make a suggestion? Here we go. Would we ever consider employing some sort of 60-style sitcom theme song that explains everything in the intro?

So we can just go straight into it. And the rest. Yeah. We come in and go, bam. Well, yeah, if any listener wants to put one of those together, we'll trial that out in a few weeks. That's such a good idea. Much much much ever so it's got to be 60 sounding with like you know a big chorus of people singing but it's got to be

good but like a bit corny yeah like a little bit crap at good do you want to me? Yeah for sure so if anyone wants to put something like that together we'll try we'll chuck them in over the coming weeks if anyone if different options and then we'll see how it feels. We imagine we're going to get many options. Yeah. We'll probably be doing it over the next three, three, four months.

Yeah. Each week we'll have a new option. And we definitely won't forget between now and when the emails start coming in. And then we go, what are these? What are you talking about? What are we asking for? What happened? Who did this?

And something I forgot to mention is we always get on to the topic with a question It is my week to do the report and I have a question for you gentlemen. Are you ready? I'm ready hands on both That was my question. Oh, damn it. I got it right. Well, no, can I just lock you out? You've already answered? It's my turn now. now yep I'm also ready okay Wonderful well I have a second follow-up question okay and that question is who Did Robert Redford portray in the old man and the gun? Who's an old man Bert Reynolds Robert Redford portrayed bird Reynolds. Oh, that's a good guess old man. Who's an old man?

Granddad? It's not Granddad. I don't think this is, it's not a household name. Okay, so it's not like a butch Cassidy type thing. No. It's not like Henley properties or anything. No. Yeah.

Yeah. Woo. Woo. Woo. Wow. You really regretted that one. It tastes like bile in your mouth, that one. Yeah, I think this one will be a little bit difficult because there are actually not that

many resources on it at all. Couldn't find any other podcasts about it. Barely anything on YouTube about it. Oh my god, we are dominating this topic. Or I've fallen for a rooze I love those topics where you get to and you're like wait is this a real story ever fallen for another rooze have I been roozed there's Robin Williams a real person well in the I believe 2018 film The Old Man and The Gun, Robert Redford portrayed a, an

escape artist and bank robber named Forest Tucker. Oh, great name. Oh. Forest Tucker, like Bush Tucker. That's the American Bush Tucker, I guess. Yeah, it's exactly right. They still use Tucker. Yeah, but they just obviously, the type of the most Australian part of that name they kept. just obviously the type of Australian part of that name they kept. They were like mmm. You wouldn't touch it, it doesn't feel right to us. You would have thought they would have gone with forest food, but no.

No, forestucker. Good on them. So forestucker. Yes. I mean, I'm instantly going. Taurus Fucker. Yeah, oh my goodness. Bit of fun there.

Bit of fun. That is fun. She's having fun early. We haven't fun early. But I actually have not heard of this person at all. Have you seen the film at all? The old man and the gun. Yeah.

She's at Soundsfuck. I mean, it sounds like they've run out of titles. She's very descriptive. If that's a pitch meeting where they're naming things they're seeing. That is, they've Googled a hundred titles that have all been told. Well, die hard. OK, die hard too. Damn it.

Damn it. The title is actually from an article that was published in the New Yorker, written by journalist David Gran. He wrote this long, incredible piece based on a series of interviews he conducted with Forest Tucker. And yeah, like I was saying, there's not that many resources about it. This is one of few sources of this story. So a lot of this report draws from that article and I highly recommend it because it's a really great read.

But the New Yorkers are legit. Papers, isn't it? Yeah, and it's based on interviews, several interviews he did with Forest. And there is information, there's a Wikipedia page. There is information out there, it's just not a lot. And this is just such a handy source because he interviews him straight from the horse's mouth. So it's a... These are horses. Damn it! Oh, I got it wrong. Surely it should have been called the old mare and the game. Well, that's interesting. I'll take that.

Um, just, I think you told us previously today that this is a topic you've been wanting to do for a while. Yes, I've been wanting to do this topic for a really long time. In fact, I started researching it and reading this article. This article is very, very long. I started reading it and trying to unpack it way back when I did the Aretha Franklin report a couple of months ago. I'd sort of started working on this and went, I don't have enough time to unpack this because I basically had to take the article, pull it apart, put it in some kind of chronological order, so it was linear,

and then put it all back together again, sort of build the story. So I didn't have time, and that's when I did a Ruth of Franklin instead, and I've been waiting ever since to get a chance to do this one. So I'm very, I'm excited because I think it's a pretty, it's a pretty wild story. What are the odds that in 200 and however many episodes have done, two of the topics have been a man named Forest? Maybe it's a more common name than we realize. Yeah, neither of those being Gump.

Yeah, exactly. So. It's still to come. You'll finish your trip to Chiv Forest reports with gum the greatest forest The man and the gum I think if anybody is out there They're currently you know expecting a child forest is a great name. Yeah, I should have said the old man and the gum Yeah, then that would have made something almost made some sense Still to worth saying that was worth saying again worth repeating

Another one of you regrets now. No, I just thought I didn't I couldn't leave it out there. Yeah, incomplete Yeah, but please edit all mentions Actually just edit everything else so far out. Okay. I can't believe how many times you said that Yeah, and don't worry Dave has not hit record on your microphone. Thank you You wouldn't believe how many times you've said that a little bit short. Yeah, and don't worry Dave has not hit record on your microphone. Thank you. You wouldn't believe how many times I've thought that on this show. Even more times. So this is how the journalist David Grant introduces for us, just to give you an idea before I unpack the story.

So he says his voice was gentle with the soft, sudden lilt. After he extended his hand, he made his way slowly over to a wooden table with the help of a walker. I'm sorry we had to meet here, he said, waiting for me to sit first. So what do you want to know, Tucker said. I've been in prison all my life except for the times I broke out. I was born in 1920 and I was in jail by the time I was 15. I'm 81 now and I'm still in jail, but I've broken out 18 times successfully

and 12 times unsuccessfully. There were plenty of other times I planned to escape, but there's no point in me telling you about them. He's an interesting guy. Yeah, okay, I'm hooked already. So that's 30 attempts, many successful. I didn't successful, 12 unsuccessful. Yeah, but you could argue that any day you don't get out,

you're, it's an unsuccessful attempt. Right, yeah. Mm. So. Yeah, it's a bit of a glass of full. Yeah, we really did see some terms and conditions of what exactly you mean. What does that mean?

Yeah, what's that? So Forest Silver Tucker, SILVA, silver. Fucking great middle name. It was born in Miami, Florida, to Leroy and Carmen Tucker on the 23rd of June 1920. His father, who was a heavy equipment operator, left when Forest was six. And while his mother struggled in menial jobs in Miami, Forest was sent to live with his grandmother, who was the tender of the bridge in Stuart. She tended the bridge.

Wow, she was sort of like the troll. Yeah, she was the bridge troll. I'm here tending the bridge. If you want to pass, you must answer these questions. Something rhymes with bridge. I needed to get a three rhyming early than that. Yeah, okay. How do they know when we do it?

You want, ah Ah pass is what you want to be no answer me these questions Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's me. Key words. Yeah, not bridge not bridge Bridge actually doesn't really come into it stumbled at the bridge the first bridge Answer my questions about the bridge and you'll be your RIDG That's lots of Aussie terms in this area of the world, obviously, Forest Tucker. So she was the tender of the bridge in Stuart, which is a little over 100 miles north of Miami. He spent his time building canoes and sailboats out of scrap metal and wood and teaching himself to play the saxophone and the clarinet.

Which he made out of scrap metal and wood. There's a very crafty kid. Is Stuart spelled correctly? It is UAR tea. I do apologize. But make the odds sick to look at it. In the spring of 1936, when Forest was 15 years old, he was incarcerated for the first time

for stealing a car, instigate and flour it up. He told police he'd taken the car just for a thrill. His first incarceration would also be his first of many escapes. When the jailer removed his chains, the young forest darted out of the prison. He just made your first mistake, sir. Taken off me chains. Bye! He was found by a police officer several days later

sitting in an orange grove eating a piece of fruit. I would assume an orange. I bet an orange. I bet an orange. Because they are aplenty around him in an orange grove. Although this guy is a bit of a character. Maybe he's having a cum quart. Come quart.

That's good. That is good. Or a lemon. People are like, what are you doing? This is much nicer to pick one of these. Have an orange. No, I won't. I won't be fooled by you. My mother, she tended the bridge to see. The sheriff decided that Forest Tucker would be sent to a reform school. He was young and it was his first offense, so maybe a slightly more gentle education-based institution would benefit him. Well, before they had the chance to send him to the reform school, Forest broke out once again.

In the brief time that he was out after his first escape, he'd slipped half a dozen hacksaw blades through the cell window to a group of boys and he'd befriend it inside. So that night, after soaring a bar, he slithered out, helped two other boys squeeze through the tiny opening and escaped. He knew the area well, having spent a lot of time exploring as he grew up. This time, police found him and the others about an hour later, hiding in in the river then noses sticking out just above the water. Bridge life again. Yeah what a he needed was a little crop of bamboo. Yes, fashion it into a snorkel. Thank you. And then carry on down the river. That's easy, nose like an idiot. Yeah, the cops are like, oh there's a bit of bamboo

there there's three noses there hang on a second. A lot of bubbles coming out of that bamboo. They start hacking at it. That was escape number two Tucker says a brief one. This is a really great paragraph from that article. It says, like the outlaws he read about in dime novels who were forced into banditry by some perceived injustice, Tucker says that the legend of Forest Tucker began that morning when he was unfairly sent away for only a minor theft. The story, which he repeated even as a boy, eventually spread throughout the town, and over time the details became more ornate the theft more minor. Morris Walton

who used to play with Tucker as a child says, my sense is he spent his life in jail for stealing a bicycle and simply trying to escape. If he became bad it was only because the system made him that way. So he just sort of I mean even in that example there it's like because he stole a bike. No, he stole a car and admitted it was just for fun. But he sort of, he always kind of paints himself as the victim moving forward. Like it's just, you know, society made me this way. So it's interesting that he's like, that the story gets told so much that the details

all change. And it's like, that the story gets told so much that the details all change. And it's like, oh, he was poor kid. And he's like, oh, I don't know. I'm not sure about that, anyway. So he was sent to a form school, but he didn't stay for long. I'm not because he was a good boy in release, because he escaped and fled across the state line into Georgia. By his 16th birthday, his rap sheet had included charges of breaking and entering and simple lasteny. In Georgia he was sentenced to be placed and confined at labor in the chain gang. New inmates were taken to the blacksmith where they had chains and shackles placed around their ankles and shackle poisoning

was very common in chain gang members which happened when the steel shackles rubbed on the skin causing infections. Oh my God. Yeah it was a very rough and grim time. They just yeah anyway the steel would just like eat away at their skin. So the guards would give you the first three days to let your hands break in with calluses, Tucker recalls. But after that, the walking boss would punish you, hit you with his cane or fist. And if you didn't work hard enough,

the guards would take you to the bathroom and tie your hands behind your back and put a pressure hose in your face and hold it there until you'd sputter and couldn't breathe. Like waterboarding I suppose, but he was a teenager. Luckily for Forest, he was released after about six months. But not long after he was released, he stole another car and was sentenced to 10 years.

Oh God. God, it does sound like he, yeah, it's just relatively mon crimes and he's getting, he's not really getting reformed is he? Yeah. That's kind of chuck him away again. Yeah, and I think it obviously doesn't help that he is escaping a lot. So that then, yeah, when it is a minor crime like stealing a car it

He's then yeah, I mean it feels minor for ten, you know, ten exactly. Yeah, I mean if yeah someone steals your car I'm not saying you wouldn't be happy about it. Yeah, you'd probably be like pretty miffed Oh, of course. Oh great. This how am I going to get to the milk bar here? We go this guy's just come and take a mica But that's my car mine. I don't I don't like that But does he go away for 10 years? Yes You're telling the story and that's what you said Yeah, you're making some good points I feel like a darn fool wait hang on

In the in the corporate seatings forest said, we see a man who has been thoroughly cast out by society. Marked as a criminal at 17 years old and constantly railroaded through judicial proceedings without the benefit of council, Forest Tucker was becoming an angry young man. That's what he's lawyer said. So yeah, you are right there. Forest believed this as well, saying that the dye was cast, which, which yeah, I do kind of get because like a lot of people with criminal records find it hard to be seen as anything

else, but he just keeps breaking out, reoffending, going to jail, breaking out, it's just this loop that he's just in for a really long time. So anyway, he's convicted again and sentenced to 10 years and he's paroled after around seven years. So by now, he's 24 years old and he's already spent a lot of time in jail. Yeah, he's just been like everyone he knows is just people from inside prison. So it does feel like it's a bit of an escapeable loop after a while. Yeah, and I mean, being out of jail would take such a lot to adapt to. So I can, yeah, it's, I mean.

I've seen Shawshank Redemption. I know what institutionalized means. Yeah. Come out and you're like, what's that? It's a car. What? What? I don't know how I'm bagging groceries. Yeah. Bags didn't exist when I went in. Yeah, come out and you're like, what's that? It's a car. What? You know what I mean? I don't know how I'm bagging groceries.

Yeah. Bags didn't exist when I went in. Yeah. Now I'm out here and there's all these bags. Yeah. And it sounds ridiculous. You're saying bags is what you've called them? Because it used to just be one.

It was the bag. The bag. It was one in the world. And we all came and saw it. And then it traveled around. And I said, wow. Can I ever go out the bag when I put some stuff in it? Well, you wait your turn young man. But now everyone's going bags bags

I don't know none of them all traveling around. Yeah, I tried to remember which is the original It's a kid say I don't care about history Do they just make more bags? A nice disposable bag. Mass-producing bags. Well, like you've forgotten what bags are all about. Yeah, that's not what bags are about. Pags are about having them for a little bit and letting someone else have it and never seeing it again.

But remembering the great time you have with that bag and the things you put in it. You can put stuff in a bag? Oh, yeah. Well they didn't realize that at first. These are cool stuff. Yeah, it took that actually took quite a few decades before they realized. Bag technology. Yeah.

Put it up with itself. Yeah. That's sort of like mobile phones. They were invented thinking they would be popular business people. They ended up being like teen agents and stuff, used them the most. And they were like, wow, I didn't say that coming. It was the same with bags. They were invented for business people.

But those teens, they'll have put in stuff in them. Thinking that business people could carry their important documents and they're like, oh, fuck, they already had briefcases. And kids started making memes out of the bags. Then kids and business people, you know, they do have one thing in common, they love doing bags.

Yeah, that's right. They do love doing bags. I love doing those. And also, you know, kids eventually grow up to be business people. Yeah. That's the cycle. So you get a young, and then you got business people using bags. Yeah.

They're like, aren't you? Just another vicious cycle. When you say doing bags, I mean, making love to the bags. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. How would you do that, Dave? Well, you get a bag and one thing leads to another. Yeah. Get a bag, you do a bag.

Okay. That's what our Prime Minister has said in the past. People who knew for a spin-ble- Not back chat, man. People who knew him say that he was extraordinarily charismatic, that girls flocked around him, and that they also noted a growing reservoir of anger, reservoir. Wow. I think he had this desperate need to show the world that he was somebody, one of his relatives, said.

Brutal. At first, Forests' sort work playing the saxophone in big bands around Miami, and he seemed to have harbored ambitions of becoming another Glenn Miller. Nothing came of it though, and after a brief failed marriage, he put away his sax and got himself a gun. Oh, because this story's not called the Man and the Sax. No, so headly. Sax is another plural of bag.

Yeah. It's just like a type of bigger bag, generally a sack. You don't have a small sack, do you? No. I don't really big sack. I'll say that, no. Certainly. Yeah.

Sack chat. I love sack chat. Yeah, yeah. In the New Yorker article, David Graham makes a really interesting link between the heroes of the time that Forest was growing up and the choices that he made as an adult. So this is what he writes. He says, when Tucker was growing up during the Great Depression, the appeal of bank robbers fueled by widespread anger over defaults and foreclosures was reaching its zenith.

After the FBI gunned down John Dillinger in 1934, DROVES descended on the scene, Mopping up his blood with their clothes. At least 10 Hollywood films were devoted to Dillinger's life. One of them exclaimed, ''History is written in Bullets, Blood and Bloms.'' It's very fun to say. I'd be hard to read. Bullets, Blood and Bloms.

Like, horror, horrific sort of stuff or what? History is written in Bullets, Blood. Yeah, that would be hard. Like that's a real like you'd need a real like a Code cracker on that. Maybe you just need a drone And you just have a bunch of blonde people spelling out the story with their bodies. Yeah Bullets would that would be a lot quicker than bulls his bullets so little yeah You'd need so many and blood. Blood, it's hard to come by. Yeah, you'd need a lot, hey, be a bit spooky too.

Go where'd you get all that blood? It's a spooky message to read. So you get that from the Australian Red Cross because they need that for sick people. Oh no. So you just take all that just to write it, just send me a text. Yeah, we've got an all that just to write just send me a text. Yeah, you can we've got a we've got a an alphabet That is perfectly fine. Just use that you write down a piece play with ink. What are you doing? We're already in a shortage honestly, this is it's so silly that I don't even want to have to talk about this anymore

Okay, I'll move on just go get Go get some ink. Stort wasting bags of blood. And there we have the bags again. Oh my god. They make the world go round. His story is written in bullets, blood, bonds, and bags.

And flags, I think it needs to be, yeah. Anyway, by the time that Forest had put away the sacks and picked up a gun, accidentally wrote, picked up a gin, picked up a gun, it's the late 40s and most of the legendary, legendary, stick-up men had already been gunned down. Yet still, on September 22, 1950, with a hanker chiff tied over his face and a gun drawn in the style of Jesse James, he strode into a bank in Miami and made off with about $1,200. So he just had a picture of a guy? Yeah, but drawn in the style of Jesse James.

Well, it's very recognizable. It's like, if you saw a warhole canister. But he's got to keep it at a certain angle otherwise you'll realize that it doesn't have depth. Yeah. Can you take the analogy? No, come over here. No, start right there. Look, look at the gun directly. He's got two pictures, one front on gun, one side on gun. So that's how you get away with it. He returned to the very same bank a few days later, this time for the entire safe.

He was apprehended as he was trying to crack it open with a blowtorch on the roadside. Oh mate, mate, come on, take it or a private residence before you pull out the blowtor. Just pull over on the side of the road. So look, he wasn't the classic Bonnie and Clyde Bank rubber leading the police on wild chases and evading capture at every turn. In fact, while he was in the county jail, he made an important decision that shaped the rest of his life. It didn't matter to me if they gave me five years, 10 years, or life, he says, I was an escape artist. Oh.

That's what he wants to focus on. So he's actually keen to get caught? Yeah. Otherwise, how does he escape? How does he escape? Yeah, I think he enjoys doing some crime while he's out Right, but once he's in he's like cool. Oh, yeah, no, sure. I'll double in some crime. Oh, I'll rub a bank But when he's in he's like now, this is where I really shine. Yeah, I don't want to just be out

I want to be getting out. Yes. I'm always getting out. I'm only in that I'm only happy when I'm in the act of getting out But I'm like being in I don't like being out. I'm only happy when I'm in the act of getting out. When I'm like being in, I don't like being out. I like one leg out through the window. That's when I'm happy. Straddling, like straddling the bars. Yes. Shrattling a gymnast.

Yeah, shrattling a gymnast. Straddling the bars. Oh, I could have straddled. Yeah, you know, the parallel bars. The uneven bars, is that what I mean? Yeah, that's right. Trapezius. It could's right. Trapezius. He could have been a trapezius.

That doesn't have anything to do with bars or straddling, but he could have done it. I'm just listing option. Yeah, there's so many other options. There's no bar on the trapezius. What do you some sort of careers counselor? Well, I was thinking, I think he, there's other options there. Your answer's always trapezius.

Yeah, you do go to trapezius a lot. I'd like to be a lawyer, no, mate. I mean, there always trapeze. Yeah, you do go to trapeze a lot. I'd like to be a lawyer. No, no, no, I mean, there are trapeze. Yeah, there's an exciting new world of trapeze opening out. Wow. Get in early because yeah, there it's about to boom. Trapeze is going to be big. He's being paid off by big trapeze. Yeah. And I'm talking really big. He's got shares in trapeze leotards. Yeah. I really need to stop moving some units.

I need this. My wife's going to kill me. I've put everything into this. So, Forest would search the jail for what he called a weak spot. It seems like he didn't really find one, a couple months later, around Christmas. He began to moan in pain. He was rushed to hospital and his appendix was removed. While he was in recovery, he started to work on

his shackles. Over the years, he taught himself how to pick locks using a bunch of things. Pen, a paperclip, piece of wire, nail clippers, a watch spring. Okay. And after a few minutes, he walked out unnoticed. He's escaping was so much in his DNA that even his appendix did it. Yeah, he says his appendix was a small price to pay. Did he fake it? Or... So they just took out his appendix and he was like, well, now I'm a little bit lighter.

Yeah, I can squeeze through this. Easy. This time he eventually, he eventually a little further than just the next state over. In fact, he went to the other side of the country, making his way over to California. He went on a spree of robberies, wearing bright checkered suits

and driving away in flamboyant getaway cars. He started to look for a partner, hoping two people could mean double the amount of money. Right. But I mean, but then you're half exactly. So you sticking with the same amount of money. And you've got to pay for more check. Surely if you were hoping it would be three times the amount of money, then there's a net gain. Yeah.

Yeah. Double that's poor. Matt, you are breaking even on your own. Yeah. It's not a, it's not the economies of scale you're after. Yeah. But I do love that he's wearing bright clothes, basically going, can I catch me?

Yeah, I know. I just want to go back in. And really flashy cars that he's stealing, but they're very noticeable. He's never picking a 10 volts fire gun. Enough. It's always bright orange Corvette Corvette. Corvette.

Still a Volkswagen. Yeah, I've got to say, they were big. Not showing up on up Bobby's station. So we found Xcon Richard Bellew described as tall handsome thief with a high IQ. Oh, complete package. Oh my goodness, yes. Triple threat. Tall thief? High IQ?

Yes please. Thank you very much. You didn't even count handsome enough. That's just cherry on top of you. Oh, yeah That's as bonus. It's not his value, please. No, that's right. He's valued if he's a thief and how tall he is That's all we're talking So the two began to hit bank after bank for two years. Wow Just cannot get caught. Yeah, he'd be getting so frustrated. He's a police tape you from the

get caught. He'd be getting so frustrated. He'd be the police take me in. From the articles, as they dominated the local headlines, often preempting coverage of the 1952 presidential election and the McCarthy hearings. They were big news, but they just kept evading capture. More than two years after he escaped from hospital, Forest Tucker was once again caught in March of 1953. When FBI agents searched his place of residence, they found a blonde woman named Shirley there who had never heard of Forest Hucker. She said she lived there with her husband, a successful songwriter, who worked in the city

and had just bought this apartment to make room for their five month old son. Shirley told police her husband's name was Richard Bellew. But when she was shown a picture of Forest Tucker, she burst into tears. So he was going, I suppose, ex-partners name or maybe his partner's name. But his job was a, he said he was a songwriter. He was a good museo. He's on the cover of the newspaper every week and she still doesn't notice. Yeah.

Amazing. Or couldly, they had named their son Richard Belleu, Jr. Oh. Oh. Had he agreed to that? Wouldn't he just steer her away from that? Just be like, I'll just call him anything else. Yeah.

For example. Just name him Greg or something. Yeah. What do you reckon about that? You want to name him Greg? It's a good name, isn't it? I think Bill, that's good. Do you know who he is? So he was convicted and seeing as they were in San Francisco,

he was off to Alcatraz. Surrounded by the freezing San Francisco Bay and its deadly currents, it was built to be a scape proof, which is obviously a real slap in the face to someone who considered themselves an escape artist. Or is it a challenge? Yeah, exactly. Dave, you didn't. Did you do an episode about escaping from Alcatraz? That's right, I did. Three men on a boat. Oh, spoilers.

Well, I mean, I think they made it out of rain jackets. So yeah, right. Well, Forest Rhyves Alcatraz on September 3rd, 1953. He was 33 years old by this time. In his interview, he said, there was only 1,576 people who ever went there. I was number 1,047. He knows. He was given a blue chombre shirt with his number stamp

done it and a pair of trousers as well as a cap a Peacote a bathrobe three pairs of socks two handkerchiefs a pair of shoes and a raincoat His cell was so narrow that he could reach out and touch both sides at the same time And he said it was so cold in the cell blocking out to sleep with your coat and hat to stay warm Doesn't seem like the nicest place That doesn't that sounds like a shit place place. It would not, would not recommend. No, agreed. A few weeks after his arrival at Alcatraz,

he was visited by his wife Shirley. It was hard to talk here, recalls. We had to look at each other through a piece of glass. She told me she had to make a life for herself. I said, the best thing you can do is make a life for you and our son. I told her, I won't bother you, no matter what, no matter how much I want to, I won't ring your phone.

A few months later, he received notice that their marriage had been annulled. So brave of him. I won't, I won't do anything. There's much as I probably definitely want to, I won't. So despite Alcatraz being built to be escape proof, that doesn't mean for us Tucker, I wasn't gonna try. And Alcatcatraz he met fellow inmate Teddy Green, which David

Graham describes as an escape artist and bank robber who had once dressed as a priest to elude the police and had broken out of the state penitentiary by shipping himself out in a box of rags. I like that because then you can also take some rags. Exactly. Free rags. It'd be. Because then you can also take some rags. Exactly. Free rags. It would be comfortable in the box too. Oh, that would be a sweet comfortable.

The only thing would be better if it was a bag of rags. Yeah. Oh, rag bag. Like in every dad's shed. Every dad has a rag bag. Is this one of those things where you've got a specific memory of your dad and you're extrapolating it to all dad? There is definitely a pile of rags in my dad's shed and they always have.

You should tell them about that. Grab a rag. Are they in a tub or are they in a bag? Where are the rags? Oh, I've got questions for dad now. So far, as soon as you friend Teddy, along with another inmate. Started to smuggle tools from their prison jobs. They carved holes in their toilet bowls and tucked the tools inside, putting putty over

them to sort of hide them. At night, they used the tools to tunnel through the floor, planning to get out through the basement. Amazing. Yeah. They planted pieces of steel wool on other prisoners to set off the metal detectors So that the guards assumed that the metal circuits were broken and therefore not be suspicious of them who were walking through with smucker items That's so smart

That is pretty clever. And they weren't they also were like everyone's it's you all of a sudden as well, but yeah, anyway So don't worry about either of those things. I guess I mean this guy's got steel wool in his pocket. I don't know about that He's he's wearing a still wool wig I don't know if that could be it is not convincing, but I don't want to say anything because he's probably a bit shy about it Yeah, just think I don't want to be that guy who's not a very convincing wig mate. Nice to pay dickhead You know, but I want to say it but I won't. He saw a compliment him. Hey you're looking good silver fox hey yeah good on you. God he looks terrible. That is obviously not real heavy. He's obviously just got still wall on his head.

Still got the pink bits from that brand style. How do we tell him? I don't know, I know we can. I mean he's already in prison. Do you want to shit on him while he's down? He probably thinks he was like Mr. Sheffield, but he does not we don't have mirrors in their cells. He doesn't know let him believe Unfortunately for Forest and he's gang there was a rat in solitary Not an actual rat That's probably wasn't actually not an actual rat. Let's be honest, there probably wasn't an actual rat. Yeah, there definitely probably was actually, yeah.

And that rat. It's a tremendous niche. That rat told a guard, but maybe they should do a search of the toilets. I would assume sort of like, I'll give you information if you let me the fuck out of here. That does sound like a prank, that doesn't it? Yeah, check the toilets.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you get there, there's a nasty shit. Oh, God, yeah. Check it. Check inside that poop. Have a look. Now keep digging. Maybe it's under the poop.

Keep going. It's just another piece of steel wolf. I've worked it. I was very painful, but I was hungry, all right? A full-blown search was launched, and the warden reported their findings as a blowtorch, a bar spreader, a pair of side cutters, a brace, a screwdriver, and one or two pieces of wire, and a piece of carburundum stone.

Bar spreader, sounds handy. Yeah, sounds very specific. I've never heard of anyone using that minute prison escape before. It's like, I wouldn't let him into my presence. Like why are you using a nail file if there's a bar spreader just over there? Because he's the bar spreader. No, I'm not, I'm not a hack. I want to do it properly.

Bar spreader. I don't take the easy way out. Kids today. So all three inmates were labelled as dangerous escape risks and sent to the hole. It seemed like Vos accepted that he probably wasn't going to be able to break out of this prison, so he decided to work on getting out another way. He started to study the law and writing letters to the court asking for an appeal. He wrote a lot of letters and somehow managed to get a hearing in

November of 1956. So the night before his court appearance, he complained of pain in his kidney and was rushed to hospital. Guards were aware of his escape history and they were stationed at every door and when no one was looking, he snapped a pencil and stabbed himself in the ankle, which meant that to treat that injury, his ankle shackles had to be removed. Okay. He was still handcuffed, of course. And as they wheeled him on a gurney to get an X-ray, he leapt up, overpowered two guards and ran out the door.

He was, of course, apprehended a few hours later, still in his hospital gown and handcuffs. I think this time he was in a cornfield. Oh. Eating a lemon. Yeah. He always a lemon with his go. So he's calling card. Is the night before a hearing to get out?

Yeah. So he might have been out, yeah, or at least the sentence reduced or, yeah, could have been let out. I imagine that wouldn't do many favors though. Breaking out in the first hearing. Yeah so I'm guessing you didn't make it to his hearing. The brief escape achieved a couple of things so firstly it established his reputation as an escape artist and secondly it got

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Well that's where Vulcan and Delta, and a few others, Tower. Tower was there from Australia and Gladiator, from the Mid-90s or whatever. Oh man, Vulcan was like the coolest guy. Vulcan was my favorite, but he was everyone's favorite. And Delta was my favorite.

Tower was my favorite. How did that show work? Pretty sure it was normal people, like you and I, going up against battling against athletes. I think it was more like, not normal people like you and I, like fitness, and out of your eyes. It's sort of like modern,

the modern day version would be. Ninja warriors. Those kind of people versus Vulcan. God, I love to watch that show. Yeah, but it was sillier than Ninja Warrior somehow. Now Ninja Warrior is, yeah, it takes itself seriously. Right, and I don't think Gladiator was too serious. It had Mike Whitney, Australian Cricketer,

and a ref shirt, black and white stripes. It was here, Cricketer. I only know him as a TV host. It was supposed to be a two-dead winds. Oh, there you go. I think the story goes that there was an Australian cricket tour of England and they were short of player and Mike Whitney was over there playing County cricket. So you couldn't just get another player over so they got him to play and he would play

pretty well. I think that's true. That's how he goes. That's how he goes. That's how he goes. I think so. I'll just double check that. Don't at me. No, I just want to choose to believe it.

Okay, great. Me too. My dad always says, is never let the true through in a good story. Oh, I didn't know I sit well with him when I was studying journalism, but it works. A lot of the time. San Quentin is very famous. Yes. Metallica played there. One of their film clips, back was filmed at the San Quentin.

Maybe did Johnny Cash do an album there as well as well as? That was a San Quentin. He did Falson, but I think he also did San Quentin. Oh yeah, I think he Falson. And it's known as the Gladiator School. Yes. So it's a Russell Crowe trod the board. Yeah, it's a known tough place. So with the help of two other inmates, John Waller

and William McGurk, fuck that's a good name. I love McGurk. I grew up with some McGurks out in Charlton. That's great. I mean, I've read it a bunch of times while writing this report, but I've never settled out loud. John Waller, William McGurk. William McGurk, you put anything at the front of a big ass. Sounds like a Scottish person doing an impression of a chicken. That's anyone doing a chicken to be there. So with the help of those two they began to collect scraps of wood and laminate which they cut into small pieces and hit under tar. Oh I thought they were going to build a Billy

cart. From the electrical shop they managed to take two six-foot poles and several buckets. How do you smuggle out a six-foot pole little one too of this? Well, you get tower from Gladiators. Step it to his shin. He's huge. He's massive. In the furniture workshop, they got plastic dust covers, paint and tape, which they stored in boxes labelled office supplies.

It's still be weird to walk past a cell and be like, stored in boxes labeled office supplies. It's still be weird to walk past a cell and be like why do you have office supplies? What do you need admin tools? Nothing but here but white out in Manila folders, keep walking boys. Don't have a bit of life admin, don't have a text, thanks very much. As long as you put in a boring box that I don't know what I look nothing Suss it just says that on nothing suss all normal things that we're allowed to have don't look after several months of prep on August 9th forest signals to

his buddies that it was go time while they kept watch forest drew from his childhood experience of making boats and used the scrap pieces to build a 14-foot kayak. I mean, before he was in a prison cell where he could touch the walls on either side of him, he's obviously in a slightly bigger room this time. This is in like, I think he's in like a, in one of the workshops, which I would assume is bigger than a cell.

But yeah, so they're just sort of keeping watch. There's definitely parts of this story that make no sense, but there's not enough information for me to really get to the bottom of it. So we kind of have to go with the story. So he built a 14-foot kayak. He had just enough paint for one side of the boat, the side that would face the guard towers. And as the others urged him to hurry,

he stenciled on it rubber-dub-dub. So he's also naming him by... They're like, please, we need to go. Let's go and he's like, hang on. Okay. So he only painted one side and it wasn't camouflage or something. It was just like, if they see us,

we really need to put on a show. Yeah, well, they also had disguises ready to go. They had sailor hats and sweatshirts, painted bright orange with the logo of the local yacht club So that if that where they're sailing pass they just look like any other boats going past all the time When the guard wasn't looking they put the boat in the water and set out strong winds and massive swells made it a difficult journey But while the later said the boat didn't leak a drop We could have paddled to Australia. It was those damn waves over the side. When we finally reached the edge of the property at Q, the son of a bitch sank.

They were spotted by a guard in one of the watchtowers. Luckily, he wasn't yet aware that three prisoners had escaped, and he called out to see if they needed help They said they were fine and the gerk thinking quickly held up his wrist and yelled We just lost a couple of orders, but my time X is still running and they all had a good laugh And they got away That's great That's got trouble isn't he?

He's having a laugh with him. That is quick thinking. I reckon he did more than level two in Prove. Yeah, that's quick. Yeah, that's some good stuff. Well, I mean, this is a, you know, maximum security, but also a maximum activity prison. Maximum security, maximum activity, maximum laughs. Exactly right. Maximus, that's meridious. That's rustle crow. Exactly right. Maximus Tessamus Murdius. That's Russell Crowe. May I also remind you this is in 1979 so Forest is 59 years old at this point. He looks like he's a member of the yacht club so that's good. Yeah that's true. You'd think he'd be recognizable to all guards. Surely. Hey there's one guy here who's escaped 20 times.

Yeah. We should keep him alive. Kicking on him. Yeah, Roger that. You kinda look like that guy who was scouslet of them. Anyway, don't worry about that. Anyway, sorry, you can't hear me because I'm screaming at you over the water. No, I gave this a lot. Don't worry about it.

I'm all good. I'm not him. My time X. Yeah, no, you mentioned that. Yeah. So obviously it was discovered that the three men had escaped John Waller and William McGurk were captured within a year But Forest Tucker had got away for now. Oh So while there was a statewide man hunting California police in Texas and Oklahoma

Had reports of a strange series of hold-ups all with the same MMO. Three of Phil Men would stroll into a grocery store or a bank, flash a gun, demand the money, and speed away in a stolen car. Pretty stock-standed, except that all witnesses noted that they were old men, and one of them was wearing a hearing aid. Authorities dubbed them the over the hill gang. That was when I was a really good robber for us, tells David Graham. He's careful not to admit any particular crime, or implicate any of his living partners, because the crimes, he's like, I don't know if they

still have jurisdiction, with the people he was working with, he's like, some of them are still out there. I was realizing this recently that being in your 50s, not that long ago, meant you were really old. I watched the first episode of The Crane. I know, yeah. And Margaret Satcher was just becoming the Prime Minister. And I'm like, how was she, she only died recently.

How was she ancient? Yeah. In the 70s, I went over, she got into, to Prime Minister's ship? And I looked it up and yes, she was early 50s at that point. She just was, just people just got old quicker in the old days. 50 something now. It's so young.

But back then it was like you had that sort of classic nanohair like Margaret Thatcher had, because you had that sort of machine that went on it and put it into a still wall machine. Yep. And yeah, I think people just joined bowls, clubs and stuff younger. Well, I did have the internet. Right, that was it.

And it seems like they didn't use sunscreen. So they did age. Right. Paulie. They didn't realize, yeah, they didn't know it seems like they didn't use sunscreen. So they did age. Poorly. They didn't realize, yeah, they didn't know about the ozone layer. But yeah, with less to do, I think you do kind of go, well, I've been to school, I've gotten married, I've had my children time to just give up. And then yeah, maybe back then, maybe you're also able to retire at a resaleight. So you just, you moved into grandpa sort of fashion earlier.

Yeah, and I guess you're having kids earlier, which probably then means your grandparents slightly younger as well. Yeah, that's true. And also, I mean, age expectancy was lower. Yeah, and when you're young, anybody, any adult is anxious. That's probably the main thing.

I just tricked myself in thinking, people who seemed old then was because I was younger. Yeah, but it is funny that he's 60 and they're like, this is old man. Yeah, over the hill, that's where I'm like, that doesn't make sense and I'm like, oh, maybe that's the Margaret Satcha thing. People seemed older back then, they're no younger.

But to be fair, if you imagine a stereotype of a bank robber, you're not probably imagining someone in the 60s with a hearing aid. Yeah. Probably. Yeah, I guess. Which I'll explain in a second anyway. Yeah, you'd think it'd be... That would be hidden under a balaclava anyway.

It sounds like they're going in faces out. Yeah, yeah. Maybe it's a disguise. But he also forget, he loves getting caught. He's like, oh, fun bit's over. Now I'm going he also forget, he loves getting caught. He's like, oh, fun bit's over. Now I'm going to go through the work of getting caught again. Yeah, so he starts leading his business car at the end of the crime. And it's going to happen less and less because he's gotten so good at it apparently.

He's like, he says by the age of 60, he'd mastered the art of the holdup. Took him took his time. He did his 10,000 hours. Yeah, but he got there. He was flying hours. He took his time. He did his 10,000 hours? Yeah, but he got there. He was flying hours. In one of the sessions with David Gran, Forest even taught David how to rob a bank. This is directly from the article.

I just think it's very unique to get information like this directly from the source. So he says, first of all, you want to place near the highway. He says, putting on his bifocals, his eyes blinking as if he were imagining a particular layout. Then you need to case it. You can't just storm in, you need to size it up, know it like your own home. In the old days, the stick-up men were like cowboys, he continued. They'd go in just shooting, yelling for everyone to lie down. But to me, violence is the first

sign of an amateur. The best hold-up men in his view will like stage actors, able to hold a room with the sheer force of their personality. Some even will make up and practice getting into character. There's an art to robbing a bank if you do it right, Tucker said. Whereas he once cultivated a flamboyant image, he later developed, he said, a more subtle, natural style. Okay, the tools he pressed on. Ideally, he said, you need now a polish or super glue to cover your fingertips. You can wear gloves, but in warmer climates, they only draw attention.

You need a glass cutter, a holster, a canvas bag, big enough for the dough, and a gun. He said the gun was just a prop, but essential to any operation. There was one other thing he said after a pause. It was the key to the success of the over the hill gang and what he still called the forest tucker trademark, the hearing aid. It was actually a police scanner, he said, which he wired through his shirt.

That way he'd know if any silent alarms had been triggered. Brilliant. Yeah. That's so good. Pretty clever. Love it. I love how he sees it as showbiz. Yeah. Like, he sees it as art.

And I'm picturing it with tap shoes on. Oh, no. Tap it his way through the stores. It's pretty amazing. He continues. He said, he removed an African from his pocket and wiped the sweat from his forehead. Once you've got your cool car parked nearby, and I don't think it means like fully sick.

You've got your radio, your hands are covered with gloves or super glue you walk in. Go right up to the manager, say, sit down. Never pull the gun, just flash it. Tell him, calmly, you're here to rob the bank, and it better go off without a hitch. Don't run from the bank unless you're being shot at because it only shows something's going on. Just walk to the hot car real calm, then drive to the cool car.

Rev it up and you're gone. He just goes, he just like, he just gives so much detail. And- It's a master class. Yeah, the way he talks about it, like it's an art form. Oh, he could sell that. Yeah. Yeah. I saw one of the day's an art form. Oh, he could sell that. Yeah. Yeah.

I saw one other day of a choreographer. Oh, yeah. I'm like, you can't teach me how to be a choreographer. Look at me. Give me something anyone can do. The five simple steps to become a choreographer. Learn to dance. That's step number one.

OK. Learn every type of dance. You know? OK. There's a lot of chore work going at the moment. That's right. We're in a recession of course there's chore-ever-view work. It's time to retrain into the booming industries. A two, three, four. Well yes, step two is learned to count. So I'm fucked. John Hunt, who's a surgeon, a sergeant on the Austin Police Force, was assigned to investigate

these hold-ups. They were the most professional successful robbers that I'd ever encountered in all my years on the force, he said. They had more experience in robbery than we had in catching them. One thing that was a bit perplexing was that with the changes in progress to high-tech security, there were less and less traditional robberies happening in banks. The over-the-hill gang seemed to defy not just their age, but their era. In a one-year span, the over-the-hill gang was suspected in at least 60 robberies in Oklahoma and Texas, 20 in the Dallas Fort Worth area alone.

The gang was also believed to be responsible for hold-ups in New Mexico, Arizona, and Louisiana. Wow, sounds like you must must be making pretty good money. It's a full-time job at this point. Yeah, why is you getting super? You're putting some of those out side for super. Yeah. Hey, you put it aside 20% for tax? Yeah, I'm wondering if you're not.

Oh, boy. Maybe that's what choreographers should retrain as. Accountants? No, bank robbers. Bank robbers.rain as accountants no bank robbers hmm No accountants we need more honestly honestly if you're in the arts It's time's tough you need to start doing you got a retrain is that eating the rich

And that takes training. It does. But without taking all 10 week-hours, we'll teach you how to eat the rich. Yeah, we're gonna start. One tray is the main. We're gonna start. We're like a friend Dave Warnockie here. Oh come on. A sort of warm-a-key. I think you'd be a bit gristly, Eric and Dave. Yeah. I think you'd be a bit gristly, Eric and Dave. Yeah. In fact, the police were at such a loss that in December of 1980, Hunt and 40 other law enforcement officers from at least three states held a conference in Dallas to figure out how to stop them. Wow.

The police don't know what to do. It's a mate, like they talk about it sometimes that jails are just training centers for crime Sounds like they pass with flying colors He they did their hours and now are just masters of it. Yeah, and it keeps getting away Meanwhile forrest is in his prime seems to be unable to stop He estimates it in his career. He'd sold several million dollars and a fleet of sports cars and used an array of aliases including Robert Tuck McDougall Bob Stone Russell Johns Ralph Pruitt Forest Brown a JC Tucker and Ricky Tucker

many He used his own name almost a lot. Yeah. It sounds like a few times he was like, what's your name? Forest Bruce. Forest Brown. So I was wearing brown shoes. Thank God. Forest Brown.

Brown shoe band. Ladder. And then other times he started well and then he forgot him said Tucker at the end again. Robert Tucker McDougall. Yeah that one is so weird. He's too long. Tucker McDougall. It's too silly. Ralph Pruitt. Hello, I'm Ralph Pruitt. P Far from Stuart JC talker. What's the JC fool? Oh What's the way J. What's the way J. Jesus Jesus Christ? Jesus crossed

That's why I call myself JC Because pick you as other was It's because Picky was otherwise. Anyway, his luck would have to run out eventually. Oh, good things must come to an end. Oh, not quite. There, yeah, but we're... Even a spree. And the spring of 83, he embarked on his most audacious heist yet, robbing a high security

bank in Massachusetts, in broad daylight, brought pretending that he and his men were guards making a routine pick up in an armoured car A classic move. Love that. Love it. On March 7th moments before the armoured car was scheduled to arrive They put on makeup and moustaches. Oh moustaches Forest wig had shrunk in a recent snowstorm. Is that it? Is that another alias forest wig? Sorry, it's shrunk. Yeah, he's wiggled shrunk in the cold. How much?

Like to the point that I was like the size of like, he looked like Bert. He looked like Bert maybe. Well, the Bert, that's a good haircut. That is a good haircut. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise. You know, Bert, the puppet for Bert, actually he started off with an afro, but went to a snowstorm.

So I've got that little tough. So rather than postpone the operation, they decided to just go without it, which might be a big mistake. Okay. So this is again from that article, it sort of breaks it down a little bit. The teller buzzed them in. Just as they entered the vault according to the police report, the manager noticed the dark moustache on one man and the white moustache on the other man were not real. One of the guards, Patatise Ganon, said, this is a hold-up. Forest locked the manager in two tellers inside the vault and escaped with more than $430,000. But when the police showed the tellers a series of mugshots, they identified for the first time the leader

of the over the hill gang as the same man who had broken out of San Quentin in a homemade kayak three years earlier. Oh, that's amazing stretch. Yeah. And they've never drawn their guns. They're just tapping it. Yeah, they just show their guns.

Nobody's injured. Nobody's hurt. I mean, injured and hurt. Same thing. Nobody's injured or killed or anything. Physically. Yeah. Probably a lot of people have been emotionally

really into the trauma. Yeah, absolutely. I've never tried someone that would have fake mustache again. Not by any means am I saying this is a good thing. I just think it's a pretty wild story. Oh, yeah, big time. So with the FBI and local police looking for him,

Forest took off to Florida to hide for a while. He reconnected there with his old prison buddy, Teddy Green. And one morning was pulling into Green's garage when a man jumped in front of his car yelling, FBI, you're under arrest! More and more agents appeared and he was surrounded. They're like jumping out of bushes and he's surrounded. Although he insists he didn't have a gun, several officers said they saw one and gunfire

erupted in the garage. Forest was hit three times, one in each arm and one in the leg. Yet somehow managed to get out of the car and run into the street. A woman was driving past with her two kids and slowed down, thinking this man had been hit by a car and needed help. He got into the car, she soon realized her mistake when she saw police officers in the rear view mirror. But he grabbed the wheel and snapped, I have a gun now drive.

They didn't drive for very long, like under a kilometer and they veered down a dead end street He got out of the car and passed out He was captured and like many of the stick-up men he'd grown up reading about His reputation was that of an outlaw like the story was big and people kind of were rooting for him. Like the Rubber Dub Boat had been donated to the local yacht club and the Children's Hospital Medical Centre in Oakland requested that Forest Tucker be allowed to serve as the grand marshal for its upcoming bath tub regatta. So people are kind of, yeah, I don't know, it's that sort of weird thing that happens

with outlaws sometimes where you kind of, I don't know. It's that sort of weird thing that happens with the outlaws sometimes, where you kind of, I don't know, people reading for them. Yeah. And I think, I think about, or we're talking about before, about traumatizing people, I think there'd be a big difference between someone who never draws the gun and just calmly says, this is a stick up. I have a gun, but as opposed to someone who's holding

one at you, yelling, you're going, I could be shot at any second. You never think of that if they've just got it sitting in the self. They've just alluded to the fact that there's a gun. Yeah, good point. So FBI officers turn up at his home in a fancy retirement community in Laudahill, Florida, and a very familiar conversation happens.

An elegant woman in her 50s answered the door. When they asked her about Forest Tucker, she said she'd never heard of the man. She was married to Bob Callahan, successful stockbroker whom she'd met shortly after her first husband died. When the agents explained that Bob Callahan was really Forest Tucker, a man who'd broken out of jail four years earlier, she looked at them in tears. Again, this has happened. Wow. How? How does that happen? Anyway, so while awaiting trial in Miami, Forest tried to break out of jail by removing a bar in his cell and climbing onto the roof with a homemade grappling hook. But something was different this time. I mean, he was old by now,

but despite the advice of her family and friends, his wife promised to stay with him if he went straight. If he served his time, didn't escape, didn't commit any more crimes, she would wait for him, and she would stay with him. And he agreed. I told her that from then on, I'd only look at ways to escape. He says, adding, she's one in a million. So he returned to San Quentin, where he'd escaped from a few years earlier, and he didn't make any attempts to escape. He was even in hospital for quadruple bypass in 1986, and we know he loves the hospital escape, but he didn't. He did, however, have another crack at writing a bunch of letters

to the court begging for an appeal. With his failing health and old age, he got lucky and his sentence was reduced by half. He wrote a note to the judge saying, this is to thank you. It's the first break I ever got in my life. I won't need another one. You know, like we're mentioning before, growing up.

Like being incarcerated from such a young age, you kind of, I don't know, like we're mentioning before, growing up, like being incarcerated from such a young age, you kind of, I don't know, like typecasts for one of a better words. So he's sort of like, thank you for actually giving me a break. He does say it as it's showbiz, so typecast feels right. Yeah, exactly. So to occupy his time, he poured all of his energy

into documenting his life story, thinking it would make for a great Hollywood film. He devoted 261 pages to Alcatraz, the true story. The musical. The second work was titled The Can Opener. That was a bit of a departure, that was. Imagine the life of The Can Opener. What are they thinking? What are they doing? 261 pages later. Sitting in the drawer all day? Oh, and the things I'm thinking.

Every couple of weeks, it's their time to shine. New can of peaches got to get opened. And then one day, technology for self-opening cans came about. No, the Ring Pull. They all have Ring Pull on them now. Real and everything. Until one day, you accidentally pull it too hard and you snap it off day. The ring came off my pudding can. Take my pen and knife, my good man. He was finally released in 1993 at the age of 73. He and his wife settled into a home

that she'd bought for them in Pompeo Beach in Florida. He spent his days working on his manuscript and giving saxophone and clarinet lessons in the den. They had a good life together. The den. They were happy. My God, I have mostly on the soul. Sorry, I've got to say, I really, I really got to the end without the Simpson stuff, so

we got two in there, so sorry, they're happy there in the den. They're happy, everything's good. It actually sounds like a lovely life. Yeah, and then this like isn't a nice sort of retirement community and you know, there's nice restaurants they can go to and they go out and there's golf course and everything you could possibly ever need. A den. So then came the day in 1999 when at the age of 78, Forest Tucker drove to the Republic Security Bank in Jupiter about 50 miles from his home. Dressed in all white, white pants with a sharp crease, a white sports shirt, white suede shoes, and a shimmering white ascot. Honestly, when I'm imagining that, shit house outfit.

It's a lot of white on white. And doesn't really go. Why you weren't suede shoes and like a polo shirt? Is that what an ascot is? A polo? No, an ascot's like the little scarf. He's got a little scarf on. Right.

I'm imagining a sports shirt to be a polo. Yeah, he sounds like he's a member of the yacht club again. Right. He pulls briefly in front of the ATM and pulled the askot up around his face, bandit style. He then reached into a canvas bag, took out an old US Army cult, 45, and burst into the bank.

He went up to the first teller and said, put your money on the counter, all of it. He did this with the second teller as well, gathered up more than $5,000 and left, thanking the tellers on his way out. He drove to a nearby lot where he left a safe car, which was a red grand-am that couldn't be traced to him. After wiping down the stall and hot car with a rag, he threw his belongings inside the

grand-am. No one seemed to notice him, and he went home making what appeared to be a clean getaway. After a brief stop to count the money, he got back in the car and headed out again. As he approached the golf course, the bills neatly stacked beside him, he noticed an unmarked car on his tail. He turned onto another street just to make sure. There it was again. Then he spotted a police car pulling out behind him.

He hit the gas as hard as he could, trying to outmaneuver them, turning left and right, right then left. He went past the North Pompano Baptist Church and the funeral home, passed a row of pink one-story houses with speedboats in the driveway until he found himself on a dead end street. As he spun around, he saw that the police car was barricading the road. One of the officers, Captain James Chin, was reaching for his shotgun. There was a small gap between Chin's car and a wooden fence, and Tucker, his body pitched forward in his seat, sped towards it. Chin, who had spent almost two decades as a detective, later said that he'd never seen anything like it. The white head figure barreling towards him seemed to be smiling

as if he were enjoying the showdown. Then as the cast skidded over the embankment, took a lost control and hit a palm tree. The airbags inflated, pinning him against the seat. The police was stunned when they realized that the man they'd apprehended was not only 78 years old. He looked, according to Chin, as if he'd just come from an early bird special,

but one of the most notorious stick-up men of the 20th century. So he's done it again. That's an addiction, right? Yeah. He can't help himself. I know, and like a few people sort of talked about it a little bit. His wife said he didn't do it for the money. She said we had a new car, a nice home paid for, beautiful clothes. He had everything.

It wasn't for the money. And Captain Chin who apprehended him for what he believed to be his fourth recent robbery in the Florida area. So he might have done a few others before this as well. He said, I think you wanted to become a legend like Bonnie and Clyde. You know, I think you're right. I think there's like an addiction to it. So on October 20 in 2000, just before his case was scheduled to go to trial,

he pleaded guilty and he was sentenced to 13 years. So David Grant's article that this is all, you know, mostly based on was published in 2003. And all good things must come to an end. Forest Tucker passed away in prison in 2004 at the age of 83. Back in prison. Yeah, so we spent most of his life in prison. But how many years did he have with his wife out living in normal life? Um, it was five or six years.

And so his wife forgave him for lying about who he was? Yeah, well, I guess so that's it. When you said she was in tears, that was her realizing she didn't really know him or that was. Yeah, she did. She didn't know his real name, right? Or she thought he was a stockbroker named Bob, Bob Callahan. Um, but then despite, yeah, I think all of her sort of friends and family were going No, don't do that. She was like I'm gonna stand by him right and you know, and she said like if you if you just do the right thing

This time and so she waited for him. He was in prison for Five years or something and he said he only needed a little bit longer needed only one more or something. And he said he only needed one more, he had one break and that's all 11 a.d. And he needed another one. Yeah. And so yeah, the end of the article gets pretty grim. Just talking about her kind of being like, I don't know what to do without him. And also his son, he and his son sort of end up corresponding a little bit in letters and then Forest just sort of drops on his son that, oh you've actually got a sister as well. He had a from his very first marriage that he was, it wasn't involved in either of his children's lives and yeah it's pretty goddamn wild.

The article is really, really great. As always, I'll have all the references and stuff in the show notes, so I would recommend having a bit of a read through it because it's really, really great. But that's just the story I've wanted to tell for a long time. I did watch the old man in the gun. I think I saw it. I must have been on a plane. It's probably a pretty good plane move.

Is that how you came across the story? Yeah, and then I, I think it must say something in there about, you know, it's based on a true story or something, and I read a little bit about it. Has it been suggested by anybody? In Jack the Hat and McVity, like I said, there's like barely anything on YouTube. There's not that many sources about it,

which is a little bit sad because he was writing his story, thinking it would be a good Hollywood film. And then it hasn't even really, the story hasn't even really picked up, but then I guess it did make a Hollywood film. So, hmm, yeah. Ah, but yeah, he wasn't around to see it, haven't had that.

I was sad. It wasn't really, you know, his story. It was sort of, it was actually based on this article. So yeah, it's all, it's all sort of come from David Graham who then like wrote a book as well, which had a few different stories, including this one. So anyway, yeah, really interesting story and a, an a fascinating person, but that is most, that is my tale of Forest Tucker. Tom White, isn't that film? Yeah. What a cast. Yeah, that was a good time.

Well, Redford, Danny Glover, Sissy Spasek. Robert Redford said it would be his last role before retiring. But then he did an Avengers one, so he had a very, very brief cameo in end game. Yeah, that was his last role. And interesting. Oh, great work, Boppa. Yeah, awesome. Great story.

Oh, I have to check that film out. Yeah, love it. Yeah, love it. You hear about a new character from history like that that I'd never heard of before. Yeah, never heard of him. And the other character from Taze-Up, so Mark Whitney, I can't confirm. From his Wikipedia, his Testiboo came in unusual circumstances. Australia was touring England in 1981, and Whitney was in England playing

Northern League cricket for Fleetwood Cricket Club and some county cricket for Gloucestershire. Injuries to Rodney Hogan, Jeff Lawson and the Australian squad led to Whitney playing the final two tests of the tour. It was the first Australian Test Cr cricket to be selected in this way. Wow. This happened to be over there. That's amazing.

That's a good luck. Right place, right time. Yeah, yeah. And that led to him hosting. Who does wins? Yeah, one of the greatest shows of the 90s. Fantastic. Will you eat this disgusting shit for $50 cash right now?

Yes, I will, Mike Whitney. Thank you. Ten years, I had a hand in the shit. Yes, I will, Mike Whitney. Thank you. Ten years, I had a hand in the shit. And there the referee on gladiators. What a guy. All right. He deserves an episode of this. Of course we won't burn any of that absolute gold. The follow-up to the other great Cricketer Bradman, who is the Whitney. So this brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show. I would argue. Which is the Fact-Quaddle question section, which has a little jingle to go something like this.

Fact-Quaddle question! He always remembers the ding. And again, involved in this, you can go to patreon.com slash do go on pod. And you can support us on the Sydney Shiningberg Deluxe Memorial Rest in Peace edition level and then you get to give us a factor quote or a question. You also get to give yourself a title. We read out 4-8 weeks. There's a bunch of different levels. We'll tell you a bit more about them soon. But the first fact quote or question today comes from Tessa Chilcott, who's given herself the title of Doctor of... Hmm. It's Doctor of Tessa Chilcott.

I guess that makes a Doctor of a Self. I like that, only you know you. You know what I mean? Yeah. And Tessa has offered us a fact this week, and that fact is... My last thing was lame, as I was post-night shift. So here's a fact. I doubt it very much. I doubt it was lame, as I was post-night shift. So here's a fact. I doubt it very much.

I doubt it was lame. But I never had a lame one before. I know that post-night shift pain. Last one was how much wood does a chuck chuck. It wasn't lame, that was fun. It was fun, that's not any. I led to us learning more fun facts about that wood chuck. Yeah.

Can't remember, I remember. No, but I remember drawing it at the time. That's funny, funny names. Anyway, Tessa's fact is, Canberra has a NASA base. What? NASA or NASA? NASA. NASA. And that is not an initialism. It's an anagram. The word is actually sand. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Sand. Oh. This is all from Chesa. This is all from Chesa.

Wow. Another fact continues. Canberra deep space communications complex at Tid bin Biller. Tid bin Biller. Sorry, Tid bin Biller. So Tid bin Biller. It supplies continuous radio contact tracking with spacecraft exploring our solar system and beyond.

Thanks, heaps of the laughs. Definitely needed them during 2020. Thank you, Tessa. Thanks, Tessa. Thanks, very much. Right, thanks. I did not know that. So they didn't keep using parks.

Yeah, the dish. Yeah, they didn't keep using parks. Yeah, the dish. Yeah, it kept using the dish. I think the dishes still air visit it not too long ago. I think it's still done. I'd love to go. Huge call here. Probably one of my favorite Sam Neal rolls. Wow. Big Sam Neal fan. Love Sam Neal. Love Sam Neal. Little bit obsessed with Sam Neal. Yeah. Like God. Really adopted me, dear. I can. Yeah, it's funny. He's very funny. I did a scene with Sam. Fuck off. When was that? Um, get cracking. Oh, I didn't have a line. I was just sort of there. I was there. You've met Sam Niel. Well, your close personal friends with Sam Niel. Can I have Sam Niel's mobile number? Okay, but I'm only saying it off board. Can you ask him to adopt me?

Yeah. You don't have to give me his phone number. Just ask him, hey, any need for a 30-year-old daughter. Okay. Did you have a catered lunch with him? Did you eat a chickpea salad next to Sam Neal? I love to say that I did. Oh, I thought it'd be yum now. I love to say that I did so well. That was a great, great fact from Tessa.

I went to the parks. I got a little snow dome of the deer. I was obsessed with that movie when I was 10, when it came out, and we were studying space in grade four, and all the other kids made like Diarramas of the planets and I made the parks Station in a in a sheep field Wow, and my teacher was like this kid's gonna grow up to be a little bit weird. Oh really? She was right. I thought she was gonna. I thought she was like this is a good sign

No, I think she was like gonna be a high achiever little fucking weird I want to you just make a planet like all the others. What a great car Sam Niel putty Go off from sea change. Yep, kev This cares on Patrick Walbutton one of the greatest voices known to man. Oh great. No, what are the most fun names to say Patrick Walbutton? Wow Well, I'm looking him up. Oh Oh, great, nice. What are the most fun names to say? Patrick Warbutton. Wow. Well, I'm looking him up.

Oh, Puddy. Yeah. His name's not really Puddy. So the next one comes from Matthew Bohr. He's offered us a fact. His fact is, I'm just going to do a question, but after listening to a previous episode, I figured I would continue my traditional giving

of facts for old reports everyone has forgotten about. Oh, great. The iconic Orson Wells has many famous roles, both in front and behind the camera, has talked about on the War of the World episode. But what many people don't know is that his final cinematic role was, and sorry I'm reading this poorly, but what many people don't know is what his final cinematic role was. For his last performance, Orson voiced the big bad planet-eating

transformer Unicron in the 1986 Transformers movie, a character that has lived on in Transformers fiction and media ever since. Wow. Judah is declining health at the time. Major work had to be done to clean up the audio to make it usable, but what is in the film is him. It is a crazy way to end such an amazing career

by having your last role essentially being Transformers Satan. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I would not know that. That's fun fact. I was wondering, I thought that's that's what I write up your early days of fact. Yeah. I do resent you saying it's a fun fact though. Sorry, that's a grim. No, that yours a grim, yours a fun minor. That's a trivia night worthy fact. Okay. Oh, it's a bit mouthy, but to say it's your fact, whatever.

Yeah. I'm a quiz worthy fanatic, still not good. I mean, I'll workshop quietly up here. But I get what you're going, and I love that kind of energy. It really suits you. Oh, I forgot to say Matthew Boer's title is head of catering and mixology for the do-go-on trip ditches. Oh my God, thank god, because I am worn out. I am working.

Eight days a week. I would love a bit of help. I'd love a chickpea salad. Yeah, that's not too much to ask. Uh, thanks so much, Matthew Boer. The next one comes from Jordan Nassie, who's the trip ditch club landscaper and maintenance guy who stays longingingly through the window. You can come in surely, right?

Yeah, for a glass of water, no worries, then back out there, stop playing the field. We have a field? Yeah, it's a big garden, he's got a right on my left. The Triptitch field. Love that, good for us. So Jordan's fact is there is a Canadian nuclear bunker built for Prime Minister John G. Diffenbaker. It was almost sold to the Hells Angels. Also called the Diffenbunker.

Yes, that is a pun. Okay. Because it sounds a bit like he's last name. Yes. Okay. Almost bought by the Hells Angels. Yeah. What are you going to use it for? Clubhouse.

Yes, sir. Do they have clubhouses? Clubhouse bunker. I mean, you know when your clubhouse to be filled with natural light, do you? Bunker it up. And you want it to be, you know, full-out proof. Just in case the enemy gets their hands on a nuclear weapon.

Yeah, obviously. Thank you so much for that one, Jordan. And finally, from Gadigay in the UK, who's given himself the title of, I'm just from somewhere called the UK. That's his title. Yeah, I love that. Gadigay from the UK, I'm just from the UK.

I love how, as this goes on they're getting weirder. They're feeling comfortable with us. I love that. Gary writes a question. I guess he asks a question. And that question is this other than the US tour, is there anything you'd love to do through the pod? First thing I thought of was world domination. Other than that, and he also says, stay safe. Thumb emoji. Thank you for that thumb emoji. Thumb up emoji I should say. Yeah, not thumb down. Not just like a severed thumb, like there was some sort of a gruesome warning. Gary J's a psycho. What would we actually do through the pod?

I definitely have a goal and that is international waters. Oh, yeah. Of course. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar.

Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to get a bar. Loved to grottoes. Um, well there are in separate wings of course. There's not so much time you can spend with colleagues. Oh yeah. I'd love to go to New Zealand. Oh yeah. Yes, yeah, yeah. And they're in our bubble at the moment. So they're at most likely next international tour. Damn right. Yes, that's almost achievable. I'd love to be invited to do a special guest DJ set. Oh, where?

Who cares? OK. Good kids birthday. Give your your Raleigh Swift birthday. I'll do it. Dave, we could just do that after a show. No, I just needed to say, do go on in brackets, DJ set. Who's Raleigh? You just hope that someone out there on in brackets DJ set. Who's Riley? You just open

up someone out there. Yeah, that's it's pretty specific. I'd also I'd love to see Matt throw the first pitch for the Gary. Oh, I forgot about that. I've been in touch with the Gary to good people at the Gary South Shore railcats in a while. Hopefully that haven't forgotten about love to see you throw that. I've been cheering you on. Someone off the mountain. Who knows if they're still with the organization or not, hopefully they are. I mean, I can just forward them back to you,

and I'll say, come on. Please. So back out, please. Please. I need this. Quite honestly, everything that we've done in the last five years, other than just like sitting in the room recording, everything else we've done like the last five years, other than just like sitting in the room recording,

everything else we've done like the web series and touring and even live shows in around Australia has all been such a pleasant surprise for me that I have no idea what could happen. So I don't, I have no goals or nothing that I sort of go, oh that'd be nice to do, like everything we do blows my mind.

Yeah, five years ago, say any of this stuff would be. I'm like, what are you talking about? Sounds wild. Yeah. COVID, what? What does that mean? So lock down, Indiana rail cats, what? What are you talking about?

Yeah, even the live streams, which we've got coming up this weekend. Like that blows my mind every time. I, yeah, we should have mentioned that. You know that live streams on set. Yeah. There you go, did it. Yeah.

This weekend, the first of four, sospresents.com, you click on that, you'll see them all there. Get the full season pass. Season pass. Four shows of the price of three. And so each one we're gonna do, like it's in a different part of the world

and it's sort of friendly in that time So but you can certainly come to all four and they'll remain online so you can watch them over and over at your leisure if you want to anyway But this first one is our North American show so the topic's gonna be North American related is a bit of a Bit of a change up for us. Have we covered that content before? I don't know if we have. Trying to think of where that is in the world North America. I know South America. Is it near there? Yes. Yeah forget where from there.

Right somewhere in the city. Could be Nournore East. Right okay. Nournore East. Keep going Yeah, no worries keep going normal. Yeah Yes, what was oh yeah, hey, no the other wild thing that's coming up that I don't think any of this would have ever Expected but nominated for an actor I had to look up hiring a tuxedo because the dress code is above my wardrobe Yeah, absolutely black tie event. Yeah, that wild Absolutely. Is it a black tie event? Yeah. That wild. And there's a red carpet, but I'm shooting another thing that morning, so I'm not sure if I'll hopefully

I can get there in time to walk the red carpet. It's so funny. It's so funny. I can't wait for the media to have to be like, and who are you? Yeah, exactly. Oh, man. So that's fun.

I've been the media at the ACRIS, which are the Australian commercial radio awards, and you just take photos of everyone. Right, you just keep taking it. For politeness, right? Yeah, yeah. Why make someone feel like you're just ever you just see the whole paparazzi mob just all drop there.

They put the lens cap on. Yeah, I go, no. I'm not gonna waste any gigabytes on him. He looks silly. Why is he wearing a top hat? Oh, I should go all out. Yes, please. So there are facts, our quotes, and our questions for this week.

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Yeah, if you listen to it. Yeah, if you listen to this after that then we need awards See that that blows my mind. Yeah, I honestly Haven't thought or cared about the actors because I'm just like that's not real. That can't possibly be real Nothing that we could be eligible for Could possibly be good Any club that wants me or whatever that thing is yeah, it's a shit club That quite beautiful quite, quite. Beautiful, beautifully said.

Charlie Chaplin said that. What was it? Marcel Maso. What's one of those? Karl Marx. Karl Marx. Thank you. Let me send some good stuff to Nick.

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So one of the big things we do is we give you a shout out on the show. And yeah, it's time to do that now. Well, I'm telling you, what are some other, there's also a Facebook group which is an awesome community that our patrons are allowed in to, not allowed in. They are it. That's, if it's not for that, they make it so good. And it's nice in there every day. It's a nice little corner of the internet

But yeah, this is time to shout out and thank you few of our supporters if I could kick it off just when we comes up with a little game Um should we say rap? I guess because I what they went to prison for oh yeah, that's good I think we've done modes of transport a bit lately. So maybe a we're after is pretty close to that but pretty like crimes as fun. Yeah, crimes. For like petty ones. Yeah, like stealing a bike. Yeah.

So it's kind of. Or yeah, the real crime and what they're selling it as later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So firstly I'd love to thank from Maddenly in Victoria. I don't know, I'm not sure where that is. Not me either. So it sounds cool. I'd love to thank Alison Ramsay.

Alison Ramsay, obviously. Two Humps. Selling a counterfeit or doing fake tours of Ramsay strings. Oh, yeah, that's good. And it's like it's in a different suburb. It's not in Nando, one thing. It's in Maddenly.

There's a Ramsay Street in Maddenly. And somehow, but it's not even. I don't know why. It's in Madingly. There's a Ram Distreated in Madingly. But it's not even, she's just like put a piece of paper, blue tacked over the top. Yeah. And it's not really a jail sentence. I mean, this is a fine and a slap on the wrist. Yeah, and she laid it so sweet.

I wasn't even that big of a deal. All I did was sell counterfeit summer bay merchandise. Yeah, and they're like, oh, whatever. Whatever you mean, Keir. She's like, honestly, I just opened an Etsy and sold stuff on it, and they're like, nah, you can't. Alves the Flamingo La, that's all it was. And then, you know, now everyone knows that,

you know, the cops are okay. Sorry. So, there's that. Thank you, Allison. Sorry, Allison. I think you only deserve a sip on the wrist for that, and I'm afraid you're getting 10 years. I'd also love to thank from William's port in Pennsylvania,

the United States, Marquia Bell. Marquia Bell. Marquia Bell. Marquia, I would think Marquiaias crime is incorrectly using apostrophes? On sign writing. Oh, no putting in too many like too many. Yeah, Willie Nilly just every every time Macias is an S Throws one in three dollar pies and there's a Poster between a and S and there's a post-recording between L and L Oh, wow, yeah really incorrectly using them. Yeah, L and L. Oh wow. Yeah.

Really incorrectly using them. Yeah, that's... They wrote out dollar. Yeah. That's a crime. They didn't just do the dollar sign. No. What?

Three dollar apostrophe people. And are they charging by letter? Yes. The sign company? That's why you get, because you put any bit of a punctuation they count that as a letter. And it's a character. Yeah. Unbloody believable.

Or wrought. Put everything in quote marks like every thing. Yeah, everything. Great pause. Literally. Who said that? A tribute that was.

A tribute. There's an asterisk there as well. Wow. In brackets. Wow. What sort of sentence are they looking at? Yeah, probably three or four years. Yeah, right. or four years.

Yeah, right. Hard labor. Any chance of parole? Yeah, after one. Wow. Still, long time. Mostly the hard labor is painting over their signs. Yeah, and it's...

They tried to undersell it by saying, I just did one type on a newsletter one time. Yeah. Yeah, come on mate. We know what you did to the... We know what you did. We know what you did. Every sign in town. We know what you did. No one knows what's possessive and what's not. And finally I'd love to thank Longmont. No, hang on, from Longmont. But we'd also like

to thank the place of Longmont. I'd love to thank the city of Longmont in Colorado. In Colorado, I reckon you know how to say Ryan Douglas Hoffman. Ah, D.H. Ah, D.H. Ah, D.H. Longmont. Longmont. Okay, what's Ryan done? What do you think Ryan stole a sticky bun from a child's picnic? What?

Yeah, so. And that kid's staff to What? Yeah, so. And that kid's staff to death. Yeah, so now. So it's actually my asslaughter. Oh my god. Ryan didn't know that that was gonna happen. Yeah, oh yeah, I didn't know.

I didn't know that that kid would die from my, directly from my actions. Exactly. Tell her to the judge. I think I went too far. I didn't tend to consequences. Not their fault. Yeah.

And then so he just told people, like I just picked up the wrong bag at the bakery. Yeah, and I put it straight back down. Yeah, and I apologize profusely. Yeah, and they say, and I paid for that person's. I paid, and I gave him extra money. Yeah, just for the inconvenience.

And they still threw away the key. Unbelievable. Welcome. And you're right, RDH, welcome. Welcome. But thank you so much for your support. Allison, Marquia, or Makaya, and Ryan. May I thank some people as well? Please.

I would love to thank from Orlando, Florida, Florida mentioned a lot in this report. I'd love to thank Candace Suda. Candace Suda? Suda? Suda. That's gotta be Suda. suda that's gonna be suda well That's on on your suda who spelled it like that and called themselves suda. There we go. Let's go with that man But Americans pronouncing weird or different. Hey, maybe they think we pronounce things

We're very cool. We don't have an accent. They do House is normal. Yeah, we have normal accents not even an accent they do. They do. The house is normal. We have normal accents. They talk a bit funny. Yeah, they do. And Candace. Is that their crime? Talking funny? Yes. Talking funny. And loudly.

Isn't that the Ricky Gervais panel show you did with Jerry Sanford and Chris Rock? Yeah, that's right. Talking funny. Ricky Gervais panel show you did with Jerry Samford and Chris from yeah CK Wow talking funny talking funny, which was a crime Because they didn't show but look he CK Was up to some they cut it out I love describing anything as crooks. Yeah But so but canis is talking funny. Maybe canis is crime is having an inconsistent accent.

Oh, that, yes. Chanting every, all the time. Yeah. Some day, she's like, hello, Candace. Yeah. And other days, she just talks normal for a bit. Yeah, OK, Australian. Australian, like you're saying that.

Obviously, like this. Yeah, hello, I'm Candace. Super-rock-or-ass. But then other days, that's what I mean. Obviously. Oh, correct. Yeah, how are I? I'm Candace. Super, oh, correct. Yeah. But then other days, she's like, Hello, how are you? Yeah.

Yeah, but where it gets iffy is when she's doing like, Asian accents. Yeah. Yeah. That was the rest. You're like, Candace. Candace, come on. Come on.

Come on. She does the Orlando accent. You two have been there. Where does it go? Um, I haven't been there. So it's on New Um, I haven't been there so it's on New Jersey. It's on New Jersey. I haven't been there. I've been to Disney Land and never a Disney World so you should die.

Oh, OK, yeah. What's the Disney sort of accent? The Disney sort of accent. I was like, oh, I'm making math! So it's something like that. Was that a Dallas Captain and Mickey Mouse costume? Because that's pretty good. That was a pretty good.

Yeah. And it's Mickey. You don't go if you know? good. That was a pretty good. Yeah, and it Mickey. He didn't goofy now I think you can't us. Thanks. Can't make Candace and sorry and I would also like to thank from Fisher the Australian capital territory Canberra love to thank Hannah white Thanks Hannah white and Hannah white she actually overfished Thanks Hannah White. And Hannah White, she actually overfished like Billy Griffith. The man made Canberra Lake. Oh wow. That's some pretty strict rules on how many fish, what size, fish, and she was just like fuck the rules.

She was flaunting it. She said that. She said that to the... She said fuck the rules. It's a person from Forestry or whatever. She actually has a tattoo that says, learn the rules so you know how to break them properly. Which was the yearbook quote of my best friend in Year 12 and she is now a police officer. And I remind her of that very frequently. Well, that adds up to me. That sounds, I would have guessed that if you hadn't known her job was 100% that may have

said. She's a cop, she's a cop. So yeah, Hannah has overfished like, BilliGrapheth, what is the punishment for that? That's a slap on the wrist. I really, that's the environmental damage. So slap on the wrist with a fish. Yeah. But she told him, like, I just went home

with one extra goldfish. Yeah. It was a goldfish for my nephew. What did I, cod? Come on. What's a goldfish, goldfish? Goldfish. That coy.

And I just got, I was only one letter off. Yeah. Well, well, you made a big difference. I didn't. They're different fish. I really had to. The goldfish in a big likelihood. I get pretty big.

Yeah. Oh yeah, don't grow. Can you get big goldfish? That grows because the, the pretty big today. Yeah. Oh yeah. Don't grow big old fish. That grows because they the bow they're in. Is that not true? That is true. So alike that's a big bowl. That's a big fucking bowl. So thank you to Hannah and finally for me I would love to thank from Landsbara in Queensland Crystal Harris. Angela lands bar. Angel, Landsbar. Ooh. Oh, I'm not sure if I'm right, is it? But if it was true, their crime, murder she wrote.

Yeah, always being near a murder. Yeah, eventually they were like too many coincidences. We're going to have to lock the wall, just to protect people. Yeah. And since Crystal's been behind bars, not a single murder committed on Earth. Wow. So it could be a been behind bars, not a single murder committed on earth. Wow. So it could be a coincidence, they're not 100% sure. It's the first time

they've put someone away for thinking they might have done something. Yeah. But they're not sure how. Wow. Because they kept finding other people to put away for those murders. So yeah, you'd think she'd have some sort of double jeopardy? You're right. But I don't think that's a law in Australia. Not really. I don't know, is it? I don't know. I have some phone calls to make. I'll be right back. Angela lands Barry, not Angela lands Borrow. Yes. Yes, still, we got someone got someone with so appreciate the offer. We've really we've really dropped off the Whatever the what they fake their crime to be like. Oh, yeah, she said

She she said no, I only got I didn't get done for that. I got done for impersonating Poirot or theatre restaurant without a license You never license to be Poir pro and I didn't know that. So it was a mistake. They find me. Sorry, they found me. And then they arrest me, yeah. So thank you very much to Crystal, Hannah and Candace there.

Dave, bring it home. Oh, well, I would like to thank now from an undisclosed location. Oh, I love that. You like your privacy. He's always a little bit mysterious. I would like to thank Alex Patre. Ooh.

That's a fancy standing name, is it? Patre. I doubted myself straight away. Is it? For me, it's bringing up Petri dish. Oh. Something in Petri dishes. The dish.

The chemical warfare. We're back to the dish again. The chemical warfare. We're back to the dish again. The chemical selling pirated copies of the dish. I mean why? Well for profit people would pay big bucks for that. Oh, yeah Exactly that was better profit margin special features. It's got any behind the scenes interviews with Sam Neal Yeah, it's got a couple fuck yeah I'll be on that and a bottle of his wine

Yeah, it's got a couple fuck yeah, I'll be on that and a bottle of his wine Two sheds or you just bullshit a NASA great line well written now and working dog is there anything they can't do no Can't put me on their TV show that's what they can I mean they can I can they They chose me too. That's all right. Hey, in fairness them. They chose not to put me on it as well. Hmm. I mean, they didn't even know they may You know indirectly yeah, indirect decisions are still decisions as them they chose not to put me on it as well. I mean they didn't even know that man that because they did. Yeah. Indirectly. Yeah, indirect decisions are still decisions. God, that's a lot of pressure.

But on you, Alex Patre. On you. On you. On you. On you. Alex Patre. What did Alex say they were doing? Oh no, it's just an an impression of Sam Neal.

Yeah. But from that ad where he didn't add for the mate industry where he said, if we weren't eating meat, we'd still live in the trees or something like that. Right, that'd. No, I don't. But the impression is better. Eight mate is that, I think it was the catchphrase. It was a good ad.

Good ad. Um, who have you got next? I feel confident he's a vegetarian. Is he really? I think he might be. I love him. I'm much like him. I, you know, for the right price, I'd advertise anything.

I couldn't be wrong, but I was looking him up recently when I was, uh, because I watched hunt for the will to people. And I was like, I need to learn more about my my lovely man Neil who my love well while you keep looking that up I would like to thank from Indianapolis Indiana Steve Baker Steve Baker there's a name you can set you watch to Steve Baker lover Steve Baker. That's a great name. I trust Steve Baker instantly. Yeah, what really is Steve Baker. I love it. Steve Baker. That's a great name. I trust Steve Baker instantly. Yeah, what's his crime? But I shouldn't.

Forfeit pies. Can't if it pies. Can if it pies. He just forfeit it. You told me through a can if it pie though. Oh, it's made. So he shows you one real pie. Yeah. gets you in on him. Oh, yeah, it's not that beautiful fresh out of the oven I'll tell you a dozen things all right, he turns around and then he hands you a Cardboard box full of cardboard pies. No Realistic looking G Steve this box is pretty light for 12 parts, but all right. No worries. Thanks so much No, he fills them with marbles. Oh wow. To get the weight right.

Wow that's genius. Yeah. The same thing. The exact people don't know that but mince meat and marbles have the same weight. If you have them in the same you know the equal weight measurements. Yeah right so if you had a kilo of mince and a kilo of marbles they would weigh the same. A lot of people don't know that. That is true. That sounds like bullshit. Wow, is that a fun fact? Yeah. What if you also had a kilo of water? No, okay. That's a liquid. Why is it different amount? Yeah, that weighs less. It's a marble.

Come on. Sorry. No, I should be joking for that. That was a funny question. It's me that's like kind of a liquid kind of a solid. Yeah. Grave in there. So where's that? It's like hard. So that's probably half a kilo because it's half water. Yeah, well that's that's why it's interesting the marbles way the same. Because marbles scientifically, even though they are hard, because they used to be hot and liquidy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They are still somehow freezing the liquid and they have the same scientific weight as hot mint.

Right, they always wear a kilo. Yeah, amazing. Yeah. I'm quite wrong and I think I don't accept it as a vegetarian. I read somewhere recently that someone was a vegetarian. Love that. Is that a fun fact? That's a fun fact. That's pretty fun.

And his, he won't even know what I said. It's two paddocks. Yes. Well, we don't know much about Sam. I don't know anything about my dad. Sorry, we think of the right one. I was thinking of Hugo WAVE. I'm thinking of Benedict Cumberbatch. Oh.

Oh, I was looking up because I was watching Sherlock. He is a vegan. Right, buddy, also it was in that meat. He was in a meat, that's why it's confusing. The right price. Get back in the tree, you vegan. Is that what he said? That was the catchphrase.

Oh, wow. We should write ads. Yeah. But it's just us getting confused over what we've read. Anyway, for the product. Ha ha ha. So thank you Steve Baker. Name you can set your watch to from the great state of Indiana.

Well that's not that far from Gary. It's not while I've got one final name to thank you and they're from and I'm gonna say this wrong So sorry from Washington in the US the city is is a choir is a car. I think is it is that a spell? I've heard of is a car before I'd ever said a written down Have you heard of is the car? Yeah, yeah, I reckon that I've heard of is the car You keep talking and I'll Google out a pronounce it. Wow, that's a... People are yelling.

Even if I'm absolutely nailing the Australian version of it, yeah. People are good. That's not right. You don't see it like that. No, in that little Horde Tordy American accent. That was such a good accent. Thank you.

And I think all of our American listeners will definitely not be tweeting. Like, cooking? What? That's not it. We're getting so much started here. Esaqua. Esaqua. Esaqua.

Esaqua. That's according to, see here, say learn.com. Oh. What if I want to touch? So I was, I was wow. I think you have, I think her. Oh, maybe I'm thinking of it, I think her. I thought that was, I just thought that's what, Barcelona and people's, what's called, it's the,

does it go? This is definitely getting tweets because even on our Patreon, it was, I'd recently, I refer to a line or a Ritchie album as Tuskegee, it's Tuskegee. Oh my god. So I've got multiple messages. I would read that like Tuskegee as well. I think, I think, some reason we just pronounce differently. I would hear someone say something differently in a, and then I would go about my day. Did I, I tell you I was listening to this book and they say,

Uluru a lot in it, but they say Uluru. That's an audio book and it is funny to hear a word you know really well. Said wrong a lot. I haven't sent an email or a friend of yours. But it is sort of it's a jarring. Have a bit of a giggle and move on. But anyway Dave, who are you thinking? People are like, is it me, am I from Issaquah, Washington? Yes, if your name is David Van Dorn Shield.

And I bet you if it isn't, I bet you wish it were. Yeah, that's an amazing man. Van Dorn Shield. David Van Dorn Shield. That's right. Oh, I'm like, DVDs. Wow. DVDs.

Oh, DVDs. Oh, so it's got to be, but we already had a DVD related one. Yeah, that's right. This one should be about beta Mac, blue rice. That's a generational thing. I don't own a single blue ray. I don't know how they're different. I've never seen one.

I think they're maybe even. I've never seen a blue ray. I've never seen a blue ray. No one's ever put one on for me. I've never seen one. What are they? I think it must be a clearer picture. But if you sort of the same shit TV, does it make a difference?

No. I wonder. Yeah, probably makes even the shitest TV slightly better. Honestly. Because I get video looks shitter than a TV today on the same TV. Have you ever seen a blue ray? I mean, in a shop. I've been doing a podcast with you for five years

with Travel the World together. We know everything about each other. And I have never felt closer to you than in this moment. Who's watching physical media anymore? Who's getting those? I know Tony Martin does. Yeah.

But outside of him, He loves blue rays I think Tony Why can you come wake up? He also has a landlide phone. He doesn't. My parents got rid of this. I think I'll recognize a cool thing about him. I listen to a podcast. He was on a while back. Where everyone else is zooming and he's on through a

one. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha He made a movie for... It was like it was gonna be the DVD extra. It's an old story, so I might have misremembered a little bit. For Mick Maloy's movie about the boy band. He was gonna do a whole other thing. It was gonna be the DVD extra. Boy Town. Boy Town.

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Oh my God. So, somehow we've got to get to the statue where we can go, hey Tony, you have a triangle so I'm your shawan. Hey, pop the kettle on and get the blue ray out. The last time I saw him I thought, oh my God, I'm going to impress him here. Here we go. Is that our mutual friend, Sam Peterson, was screening a movie that we'd both sort of done a bit part in, and then, you know,

Tony Martin's talking about movies. I was like, oh, any reference to the movie, the big country. And I said, ah, that's my Grandpas funeral last week. And that was his favorite movie. And I wheeled the coffin out to the theme song from that. That's fun, Dave. That's fun.

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What a claim! I don't think I was invited to the... No, not the Grimm Factor there. I'm doing his podcast this weekend. I might I'm gonna bring it up I'm gonna bring up the fact that a you were cut and b I was never cast. Wow. I'm on the poster, so get fucked Yeah, why is your ugly bug get to be on a post? It's not the three of us. You're maybe equal second come on line cartoon form though, so they made me look hot Yeah, okay Thank you

We haven't given David anything oh is from is a choir David band-aunt shields He did the splits between two moving trucks. Oh, bam, bam, stone. Yeah. And, yeah, he did it without a license. Oh, no insurance. No insurance.

Wow. Crossing state lines. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's a big mess. Federal offense. Like social lines. He's crossing. Yeah.

Because he was also pants like that. Yeah, he was wearing arseus chaps every I could see his balls yeah you could see he's wriggling in the breeze and right up his is a crack it was honestly inappropriate finally pronounced it properly um what a tape it say it was

like when he's talking to his friends about it later he's like he's tricky he's tricky this is just a truck related business happening yeah i don't want to say anymore i was struggling two trucks and they started pulling apart about it later. You're streaky, you're streaky. This is a truck-related misunderstanding. Yeah. I don't want to say anymore. I was struggling to trucks, and they started pulling apart. I was saying, stop, stop! Luckily, my legs are very flexible,

and I was able to keep the stretch up for six miles over the state line. I was signaling to the truck driver to stop, but all he thought I was asking to to hoot the horn, and he did, huh? Hi! I was going I was going yes it's delightful but not now. Luckily I was in my arseless chats. So I didn't split any pants. You know how I love my pants. So thank you to David Van Dawn Shields. And sorry that we went on a bit of a rant. We talked recently about trying to make sure we keep this tightish. Yeah, we did didn't we?

This feels like we've really ballooned way back out. Oh well. Thanks to the people still listening Um, and that brings us to the last bit of business we love to do and that is inviting a few people into the triptitch club and we have Three inductees tonight Who I'm very excited to be bringing into the club. And the way we do this is if you've been on the shout out section or above on our Patreon for three years straight, you're invited in this club. I'm standing in the door. I got the velvet rope, I got a clipboard. If your name's on there. I lift the rope you enter Dave will hype you up He's the hype man. Yeah, it's hype's Dave's hype work

Jess has also got some drinks and all derives on the go Dave's booked a band who we got playing tonight We got a fat boy slim. Whoa Yeah, right here fucking in heaven right here. We go there Wow Believe him. Yeah, I can, yes. And just what do we got on the menu? Drinks wise, we've got a range of celtes. Oh.

Hard celtes are very in right now. And I'm nothing if not a trend for a while. You're on the point. And obviously food related, forest tucker, we do have forest tucker. Yep. We call it bush tucker, we do have forest tucker. Yep. We call it bush tucker, but for our American. Fantastic.

You'll American guests, you'll be more familiar with forest tucker, obviously witchy de grubs. Yeah. American witchy de grubs. Yeah. What's the bread? Dampa. American damper. Danper. Danper.

And then you just arrange a mother. Oh, love Danper. Tucker. All right, great. Well, let's bring them in. Firstly, I'd love to welcome into the club from Blackburn, in Victoria. It's Stephanie Mitchell.

Oh! No sick burns for you. Come on in! Stephanie Mitchell. Oh! No sick burns for you, come on in! Stephanie Mitchell from Blackburn. Seth's a very good friend of mine. Really? Yes. I should have tried harder, sorry. I don't know, I don't think you nailed that.

Should be very happy. Thank you. I'd also love to... She has a little dog named David. Right. So fun. It's the best. I love it.

I'd also love to welcome in from Mitchellton in Queensland, Joe Panning, great saint supporter Joe Panning. Panning the members. You don't need a world you'll be writing about tonight when you pan your panning your men was. Joe. Yeah. That was pretty good. That was very good. I wanted to tell you this off, but also, fantastic work. That was on me for not hyping you. Credit work credits too. Yeah, well done.

And finally, Doug, all right, let's get right in. Oh, there's only one more. One more. Oh my goodness, sorry. You gotta go, just go, hard, go in, get done. Go with your gut. Straight away, you can do this. Woo!

All right, from St. Charles in M.O. I'm gonna say Missouri It is Timothy Steven Moore Be dead in the cold cold ground before I recognize Missouri. Welcome in Steven Moore Steven Moore hey, we couldn't love you anymore. That's right. Could I be anymore Timmy? That makes that joke a lot. I don't really get it. I'm thinking something to do with Chandler. Yeah, that's right. I'm with you, Dave. I think it's something to a channel. It's fun to say.

It is fun to say. It's fun to say. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Welcome in. Stephanie Jo and Timothy. Enjoy Fat Boy Slim laying down some fat beaks. Well, you drink a hard seltzer and some bugs. Wow. Well, combo. I mean, if you want the fresh stuff, everything we've said in previous weeks is still on the menu also.

Of course, yeah. The waiter is trying to hold that many plates of all derives. It's very half time for them. We should get another waiter. Yes, we've got one waiter. Am I crazy? Well, let's have a meeting. We should get another waiter. Yes, we've got one. We've got one waiter. Am I crazy? Well, let's have a meeting. Yeah, you're right.

It's our oceaness of that on pod. Crunchy numbers. We're really setting the bar high now. Well, that really brings us to the end of the episode. What a fun time it's been. A wild journey. We heard about a man. The man, the myth, the legend.

Mike Whitney. Yeah. I learned that he played cricket. I didn't know that. So, you know, we could all walk away here with new information, which will leave my head as soon as I walk out that door. Love it. And for us Tucker, amazing story. Great work Jess.

And the next time you'll hear us, or and see us, is if you've got a ticket to the live stream this week, if you're listening to this sometime in the future, you should still be able to get a ticket and watch the episodes from the fair old Northern America. I was gonna say Northern hemisphere, also true. But more specifically, we're doing it from North America via Stubborn Studios Studios or vice versa there. So you can get your tickets at ossofpresents.com

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Check us out. And you can suggest a topic at any time. We'll join the Patreon. That's also on the website. Do go on pod.com. But until next time, I guess that's it for another week. And until then, I will say thank you and goodbye. Bye. Bye.

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