Two In The Think Tank - 271 - The Demon Core

Episode Date: December 30, 2020

When Japan surrendered in 1945, World War II was brought to a close and the United States' plans for a third atomic bomb drop were abandoned. The plutonium core at the centre of the bomb was shipped to New Mexico for further experiments. Despite avoiding use in war, this plutonium core was still intent on killing. Being at the centre of the first two criticality accidents in history, it was dubbed "The Demon Core."Buy tickets to our live streamed shows:https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoonSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodCheck out our AACTA nominated web series: https://www.youtube.com/user/stupidoldchannel Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/demon-core-the-strange-death-of-louis-slotinhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_corehttps://www.nndb.com/people/053/000168546/http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2016/05/23/the-blue-flash/https://www.sciencealert.com/the-chilling-story-of-the-demon-core-and-the-scientists-who-became-its-victims-plutonium-bomb-radiation-wwiihttps://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/demon-core-that-killed-two-scientists

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And Jess you are Jess Perkins. That's right. Welcome to the show. Welcome to my show. Do go on. Great to be part of it. Hey, can I just also say to you Matt, welcome to my show. Do go on. Thanks so much for having me on your show. Do go on. Thanks for having me too Jess. And Dave, thank you for having us on your show. Do go on. Oh great. Yeah, thanks for having us here Dave. See Dave. Do go on. Oh, great. Yeah, thanks for having us here, Dave. See, Dave. Do go on. The thing is, that, do go on kind of belongs to all the people. Mm, all three of us.

All three of us. Yeah, the people. Other people in this room. We're the people. Do go on. Hey, Dave, I'm already here and new listeners going, what is this all about? Yeah.

Can you explain the show for us? Well, I'd love to explain the show for you, but I've had about 250 goes at it, and I've never got it right. So a few weeks ago, I put the call out on the show to be like, hey, if there's any users out there that'd love to make a 60s style song that explains how the show works, like a sitcom style song,

we've had a bunch of entries, and this one has come from a dear, dear friend of mine. Who you might know as Tom Mitchell, former lead singer of Weed Horns. Oh my God. I bet. Not Braille face. No, that's Jordan White from my other band Playwright. This is even further back than that. One of my closest friends in the entire world and he's a big fan of the show. So thank you so much for sending in this song, Tom Mitchell, that of the book. Now I get it. Now you get it so Tom's also explain the show but also explained what scar is.

So thank you so much Tom. Tom that is great, that is so so good. Very much appreciated. He sent that to me, emailed and said, I send this to the do-go-one email and I said, oh, keep it a surprise. Thank you for that absolute gift. It was weird that he did confuse Scarf a Scat, though. I think that was the generation Scat.

Oh, yes, third wave of Scatting. Yeah. Oh, well, still, we don't know what Scar really, really is. It was Tom. We'll never know. So the show is here. We take this as a report on top of it. It is my turn.

And this is the last report for the year. Far out and tell you what, this year can go suck it. 2020 can fuck off. Hello, it's pretty good. Yeah, good time in 2020. Wait, 2020. Oh, my goodness. Oh, good Lord.

Gracious, no. How exciting, Dave. I hope you goodness. Oh, good luck. Great, just no. How exciting, Dave. I hope you really go up with a bang. If this is a meteor, what? Well, I'm going to be very disappointed in you. Go up with a bang we shall.

Oh, no, there's some sort of explosion. Okay, my question is, what topic in the hat? Sounds like a genre of metal, but really is the name of a nuclear mishap. Oh. Well, don't think you're not going to get it, but... Like an actual genre of metal? Oh, it sounds like one.

It's something cool. Oh, metal core? Yeah, it's very sinister, very devil-like. Grumble core. Dumbledore. Is it Dumbledore? It's Dumbledore very devil-like. Ah. Grumblecore. Dumbledore. Is it Dumbledore? It's Dumbledore. I knew it.

The new clearest app, Dumbledore. This topic jumped out at me because it's called The Daemon Core. Oh. That does sound like a metal. That doesn't add Daemon Core. I suggested by two people, I thank you to Steven Dumbled and Blake Wilde.

Steven Dumbledore. Yeah. It also kind of sounds like it could be a genre of porn. Ah. Demon Core. Yeah. Wow, you are into some weird shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. Hey, that is actually fine. Ah, okay. So, have you guys heard anything about the demon call? I know about goblin core music, but I haven't no, I've never known of demon core. I have heard of it fairly recently when my friend Dave mentioned it on a podcast. He sounds hot. No, but he's got a heart of gold. Really?

Lucky's not a hot. Yeah, honestly. I mean, he'd be arrogant otherwise. Yeah. All right, we've got to go back to 1939 to set up this one at the onset of World War II. Uh-oh. The sequel is always better. When advances in nuclear fission

meant that many American scientists, many of whom had fled fascist regimes in Europe, were worried that Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany might attempt to create a massively destructive nuclear weapon. That was a big concern. So the most famous scientist in the world, Albert Einstein, was persuaded to send a letter to then US President Franklin D. Roosevelt, alerting him to this danger. And when Albert comes knocking, you'll listen.

Yeah. And as a result, an advisory committee on uranium was established. By 1940, it was known that Germany was indeed exploring the new technology. And so was Britain. So eventually, when the United States entered the war in late 1941, a vast array of plants, laboratories,

and manufacturing facilities were built across the country under the direction of Lieutenant General Leslie Groves. Man Hatton Project became the codename used for the research with the ultimate goal being to develop and test a nuclear weapon before any other country. Third of Manhattan. Yeah, the Manhattan Project. First they take Manhattan and then they take Berlin. Exactly.

I mean, if you can't take your own city, how are you gonna take theirs? Yeah, and Rome wasn't built in a day. Oh, that's a good point. Hey, hey, hey. You wanna know what I mean? Went in. That place.

They spent billions of dollars on the Manhattan project and employed 130,000 people including some very very famous scientists. J. Robert Oppenheimer was the director of the Los Alamos laboratory in northern New Mexico and he's sort of seen as the father of all of this Robert Oppenheimer. Also working on the project was at least 20 Nobel Prize laureates. Mara Curie. Yes, hanging around. Obviously, she's like anybody near any Pell's penicillin, I got some.

I got it, I created it, I got it. Mainly that were all winners of Peace Awards. Peace and music. Literature. Bring it in there. I got notice, Hemingway, what do you reckon? Can I make this bomb? He's like, oh, I don't know about that.

My heart's a bomb. For you. There's a very famous scientist. They're like a... Inter-science, you might know these people. Niles Boer, Hans Beatta, and if not, you'll enjoy the names anyway. Amazing. Ernest Lawrence on Rico Fermi is a door Isaac Rabi, Felix Block, and my favorite Glen T. C. Borg. That's good. Who discovered 10 different elements, including plutonium?

Far out, it was busy. Yeah. Have a break. Good. Try Hawaii, it's very nice. Yes, very nice. Name's Cover 10 and none of them are the elements that are named after him. Do you know their names are in the element after him? Sea Borgium is an element.

Sea Borgium. It's beautiful, man. Sounds made up for it. Beautiful name for girl. It's not like in the first 20, so I don't know it. That's right. It's not in the first. Certainly not.

So I don't know it it is. What's the first one? Hydrogen. Don't know it. What's zero? I don't want to say too much about the project because I think it would be a very good report in its own right. But long story short, they were successful. Right. Is it a right? It came at a big cost of humanity. They were successful. Boom. Boom. Thanks for making us worried about the inevitable nuclear war

that shall ensue one day. But on July 16th, 1945, in a remote desert location in New Mexico, the first atomic bomb was successfully detonated. Called the Trinity Test, it resulted in an enormous mushroom cloud, some 40,000 feet or 12 kilometers high. Four, that's big. And with that, the atomic age was ushered in. That's quite large. Yeah, that's a big, that's a bigger bone. Am I right in that? What are imagining? Like bigger than like a, like three-story building.. Like bigger than like a, like, throw a story building.

Yeah, bigger than like a portabello. Or a yeah. Oh, fuck, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bigger than a portabello. Yeah, that's a real thing. That's like King of Mushrooms. Yeah.

You can sometimes get a mushroom burger that's just a portabello. They're the size of a burger. Yeah, well, this bomb was the size of two burgers. What? What a double stack. A double stack. No. Yeah. I said it couldn't be done. Oh my god. I was worried. of two big. What? What? A double stack. A double stack. No.

I said it couldn't be done. Oh my god. I was going to have a team of sanders on board. They were worried that that would be the first to develop it. Yeah. Well, I bait him to it. And a lot of people died from cholesterol. Cholesterol.

Clogged out, are you sure? You think it's healthy because it's vegetarian, but still a bit of grease in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's a double the normal, a man of grease. Yeah. Well, under the gardens of Oppenheimer, two distinct types of atomic bombs were developed

at Los Alamos, New Mexico. A uranium-based design called the Little Boy. Yeah. And a plutonium weapon. Called the Big Boy. Called the Fat Man. Oh, come on called the big boy called the fat man. Oh come on. A little boy and the fat man. Did you guys grow up with, I've heard Joshua Columnese, little hot dogs called little boys.

Yeah, cocktails, my dad sometimes called them little boys, little cocktail frankfits. Yeah, I never called them little boys. No. Yeah, it's very upsetting. Yeah, I know. You think about it too much. Cocktail, Franks. Yeah, I think that I've I never called them little boys. No. Yeah, it's very upsetting. Yeah, I think about it too much Cocked out Frank's yeah, that's all we call it delicious. Yeah With that weird little ball rubbery skin But then also on Josh Lill's podcast. I'd heard something I'd never heard before which is that His family would have pink soup

Drink the water that hot dogs have been boiled in an on-train. Yeah, pink soup which is they drink the water that hot dogs have been boiled in. There's an on-train. Yeah, pink soup. No, thank you. Missing Josh? You're gross. I thought maybe he wasn't bragging about it. No, he wasn't. I thought maybe it was like a Tasmanian thing.

You know how it can change state to state, but your dad would say it. Yeah, little boy sometimes. He's rid of that theory. And that's Slapy's face. Yeah. I hope people call them chippalarders as well. Oh. Oh, that's more fun.

That makes them sound exotic. Makes them sound like chips, though. Yeah. I'm expecting potato. All right. Oh, we like chippalarder, please. Yeah. Oh, what the fuck?

Take those little boys away from you. Yeah, I can't remember what we called them. I thought that maybe just Frank Fitts. Yeah, Frank's. I think it was Frank Fitts. Yeah. Little boys. So, what do you think? What do you think?

Maybe. Maybe cocktail weenie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, yep. I remember at our school fate when I, at primary school, the American guy was running the raffle and he'd say, hot dog, we have a winner. And at the time I thought it was so funny. That was the heart of comedy.

Oh my god. That's the dream, isn't it? To be a middle-aged dad, absolutely crushing in a school fight to seven-year-olds. That would be, oh man. Where does he come up with his material? Oh, that must be it. Gosh, his big book of jokes.

Yeah. Yeah. That must be one of the few benefits I can imagine of having children. Is it at some point you're very funny to them. And then they realize it's just a chain email that you keep reading out, Dad. And then you're incredibly lame after that. And then they start just sending you the emails. Yeah. Anyway, we're talking about bombs. Oh, the little boy and the fat man. The two bombs that have helped. Some of that go at the fate never did, never bombed. Always, always crushed.

Let's go to the... It's a safe joke over it, I reckon. Little Matt Stewart the front row just bent over. Say it again, say it again. Hot wiener sounds like a winner. I get it, man. It's very good. Even back then you were enamored with a pun.

That's a pun? Yes. Sounds like the key there was sounds like. Right, right. Two words that sound alike. Yeah. Very funny words. And then adding hot dog at the start.

Because that's the same as wiener that's funny. The context hot dog. I don't know if that sound alike. Yeah, very funny words. And then adding hot dog at the start. Because it's like the same as weiner that's funny. The context hot dog. We have a weiner. So it's not a saying hot dog we have a hot dog. That is good. That is good. Hold up. Yeah. Actually, hold up. All right, so a little boy in Fat Man, there's two weapons. It was only a month after the first Trinity test that these two bombs were dropped on Japanese cities. Little boy was dropped on Hiroshima on the 6th of August 1945, and Fat Man was detonated over the Japanese city

of Nagasaki just three days later, causing an incredible amount of destruction. The two bombs killed between 129,000 and 226,000 people, most of whom were civilians. And you cheered this, which is moments ago, Jess. Did I? Yeah. Come on, Matt, you were said hot dog, we have a wing.

That's what I was really. That's the thing. Hey, I was trying to lighten the mood. Yeah. It is difficult to make any of that funny, but there were plans for a third bomb if Japan didn't surrender. But fortunately for them, they did six days

after the bomb, even of Nagasaki and also the news of the Soviet Union had declared war and then they weren't happy about that either. And so a recording of Emperor Hirohito's surrendering was broadcast to his countryman. And that was the first time any Japanese emperor had ever been heard addressing the entire country. It's not amazing. Yeah, really fascinating. So they've been in charge for a long time. And uh, but the every man, you know, peasants and such had never really heard them speak before.

Oh right, at all. I thought it was meant at all at the same time, but they just didn't hear their voice. Yeah, I guess if you didn't, you know, if you went in the palace or close by, which most people won't, you don't get to hear them. Yeah, that's great. They didn't podcast or do it like radio. Maybe it stays. If you miss it live, that's it. Really?

Really? Catch up back then. Wow. Different time. No one, no one demand. No one demand. I think, oh, they couldn't even stream at all. No.

So they were just streaming video of them without audio. Huh. You can watch them talk but never. Never hear them. Right. Ah, it seems like a, yeah. It's playing, isn't it? Yeah. I wouldn't go back if I could. No, go no. I mean, I'd listen and not watch. Yeah.

That I would never watch and not listen. I refuse. Yeah. So, they didn't need the third bomb. So, back at the Los Alamos Laboratory in New Mexico, codenamed Project Y, This news meant they could stand down on the third atomic bomb, specifically the plutonium core that would be the heart of the third bomb. This third core was nicknamed Rufus, and I was a 6.2 kilo or 13.7 pound, sphere of refined plutonium and gallium. Basically from the outside it looks like a smooth grey metal ball about the size of a softball. Whoa, it's tiny. It's small. Yeah, so that's the thing

you look at. It goes, bang, jeez. Oh, thank you Dave. Now I know what a ball is. But it's something so small could cause, like, could destroy an entire city. That's how powerful these things are. I don't really understand how they, why they're doing event and new one each time. Why don't they just make multiple little boys? Oh, so they had two different types, little boy and fat man. And why make a third one then? Oh, so the third one was actually similar to fat man. Right.

Yeah, so they've dropped both and found that the plutonium one was actually more effective. So let's just make more of those. What, are they having a good laugh with these names? Yeah, yeah. You have to cross the stream. That's so dumb. Little boy. And imagine being in the meeting where they were like, oh, okay.

So Fat Man, they're a bit more effective than the little boy, killed heaps more people. Mm. Perfect. Yeah, great. Well, let's make more of that. More of those little boys. Killed lots and lots of civilians.

Yeah, and I know it's real bad, isn't it? Yeah, I just what the fuck are you thinking? You reckon those atomic bombs were real bad? That's a kill. That's my take. Okay, well, I'll think about it. So, I was that so hot that you're burnt? You're feeling a radiation burn over there? Yes, absolutely. Um, though, I mean, they had been fire bombing Japanese cities for months, if not years, by this point. And often, they would fire by my city and a hundred thousand people would die.

So, like, they're pretty used to making calls that kill a lot of people. What? Ugh. Real bad time for planet Earth. Uh, the third call, Rufus. It would have been used in an atomic bomb like Fat Man that had destroyed Nagasaki and uh, it could have been dropped in just another four days. They were ready to drop another one.

And at the time there were calls from the military to drop it on Tokyo. Can you imagine? Fortunately for Tokyo, can you imagine. Fortunately for humanity, that never happened. So Rufus stayed at the Los Alamos facility and was used for further post-war tests. And one of the team conducting tests on Rufus was Harry Dollyan, born in Connecticut in 1921, while still a graduate student in physics at Purdue University, Harry

Dollyan was recruited for the Manhattan Project, and he arrived at Los Alamos in November 1943. He helped prepare the plutonium core that would eventually be used at the first Trinity test. So imagine that, he's like 21-22. Still a student working with some of these really giants of his field. And I just need to stop for a second and vaguely explain the theory as to how an atomic bomb is meant to work. Oh, I mean, for any listeners who don't know, sure. I don't know why you would waste the time, don't know, but yeah, that makes sense. But who knows who's listening?

Children could be listening. Good people could be kids. This is for the kids. Try it down. Explain it to them like they're six-year-olds. Maybe four-year-olds. Yeah, they could be four-year-olds listening. It's bad.

This is the theory as I understand. I am not a nuclear scientist. In fact, wait, what? This may shock you, but I'm not a scientist at all. What? Dave! What the fuck? What the fuck?

What? What the fuck? Sorry for this bomb shell. Is that a pun? Apologize to that. Apologize. And I also have to say, the people that worked on this are some of the smartest scientists that have ever lived. So a lot of them also carried the guilt of creating

these fucked up weapons, so you can't have it all. So you can't be a genius and make ethical decisions. Yeah, difficult. That's the hard. Well, that's why being a big old dummy works in my favor. Exactly. How many weapons have you created that could kill 200,000 people in a few minutes? These. Talk about my fists. Nice. I could punch you dead. You could. I want. You literally could. But I want.

Okay. Also, you probably pushed me up here with your legs. Yeah, I could do that. And to death. Well, up to the top of a hill and then down the other side. Off the cliff. Yeah. I could push you off a cliff with my legs.

Push me into a steep, steep river. Please. Don't do it. Okay. Please just beat me to death to your fists. It's much kind of. Now, this is also hard to explain without any diagrams. So there's a bunch of videos on YouTube

that explain this in greater detail from experts. So if you find this confusing and are interested at home, just look it up. But the basic concept of an atomic or atom bomb, not surprisingly, it's all about atoms. Right. So the name comes from. And atom, of course, just a reminder,

Jess, which I know you know, is the smallest unit of ordinary matter that forms a chemical element. Every solid liquid gas and plasma is composed of atoms. They're building blocks of matter. Everything's atoms, baby. And inside the nucleus of atoms, a different amounts of protons and neutrons. And that determines

what sort of element they are. Obviously. Sorry, but what's important here is when you break apart the nucleus of an atom, a large amount of energy is released. And this is called fission. Right. It's not just gone fission. No, it ain't gone fission.

But that's how you- Is that a pun? Is that a pun? That's a pun. Yes, I did one. fishing. But that's how you add a pun. Is that a pun? Yes, I did one. Yeah, gone fishing. I bet you real funny scientists have that as a bumper sticker. Absolutely.

The funny guy in the lab. Yeah. The guy who came up with fat man in a little boy. The picture of him with a fishing rod on the end of the fishing rod is like a bomb. Yeah, gone fishing. Gone fishing. Gone fishing. That's good stuff. How's fishing spelled?

FI double S, IOM. Yes. Fishing. So, it turns out you can break an atom apart by firing a really tiny neutron at it. And for its size, a lot of energy is released. But if it only happens once, no big deal. You wouldn't really notice. But imagine, if you could make it so when the atoms split apart,

more of the neutrons that were inside it fired out and then they slammed into other atoms, which split them, which in turn sent more neutrons flying out and this forms a chain reaction where it happens over and over and over again. That's only create a lot of energy. Heaps and heaps of energy. Well done, Jess! And in nuclear power, the idea is to control the fish and so it doesn't get out of energy. Heaps and heaps of energy. Well done Jess! And in nuclear power the idea is to control

the fish and so it doesn't get out of hand. You stay in control of the chain reaction. You're only break up out as many atoms as you need to and create as much energy as you need. But in nuclear bombs, however, the idea is to get the atoms to keep smashing into each other to form an uncontrolled chain reaction that results in huge, huge, huge, huge amounts of energy being released. And this is what makes atomic bombs so effective and so terrifying. The reaction just goes so out of control. That's why there's that blast wave that goes out and then the mushroom cloud goes up,

yeah. I won? Yeah, right. I wonder if the first one that they were just crossing their fingers going, hope we don't blow up earth. The mouth's part of the muscle. Like we're pretty sure this won't blow up the whole planet, but.

Well, Fermi, did you carry the one? Oh. Oh god. When it gets out of hand, that's called critical mass. Or whenever it was out of control really badly, that's called reaching super critical mass. Super critical mass or whenever it's out of control really badly that's called reaching super critical mass. Super critical mass. Super critical. Which if, I mean, if you want to make a bomb, that's like, you know, you want super critical mass, but in any other situation, you do not want that. No, no,

because it's also at this point that it unleashes a huge amount of radiation. And radiation is really bad for people in the abyss. Super critical mass sounds like the time that I wore yellow chinos to church. I'm just taking a second to imagine the regret first. But he always still goes for it, but that's what I love about him. Is that he hates you so every time? But it doesn't stop him. He's gone for it. You went for it. You had a swing. It's great. It often stops me. Yeah, God, man.

This is the ones that get through. We could pull down that barrier. Yeah, but it's going for it. Say whatever you want. This is a safe space. That was great. That was your brain at the super critical mass. That was your brain at super critical mass. You are cheating. To mass, that's funny. That is funny stuff.

Now, that's the vague explanation. Do you sort of understand what happened? That actually, well, I now understand it more than I ever have before. Absolutely. My unitesine literature has a lot to it. Oh, fantastic. Great, because I watched so many videos explaining it. And I'm like, that doesn't make sense without a diagram. I cannot say that.

No, you did very well. So just to reiterate, in a nuclear explosion, a bomb's radioactive core goes critical. A nuclear-fishing chain reaction starts, and it gets quickly out of control. Boom. So the American scientists studying the leftover core rufus, they wanted a better understanding of the edge

where subcritical material, not critical yet, tips into the extremely dangerous and intensely radioactive critical state. They're like, how far can we push it? Yeah, right, before it's really bad. Yeah, they wanted to push it as far as they could before it unleashed a deadly blast of radiation. Right.

But I mean, like, if anybody's in the area of the bomb, it's still gonna create a deadly blast. Yes. But not radiation. Thank God. Well, it will create both if it goes too far. That's what they've voted for. It's a very fine line as we are about to find out.

Do you have, do you happen to have an easy to understand explanation of what radiation is in your pocket? It's like in their microwave. It's basically, it, it, it, it, it is really bad for your body. It's, it alters your DNA and destroys your cells. Yeah, I sort of get that is bad, but I don't understand what it is. It's invisible, isn't it?

You can't see it happening. Well, sometimes you can see reactions of it, but no, you can't really see it, no. Yeah, I just don't really get what is happening exactly, but it's probably the kind of thing that I would need to study for years to on. Yeah, it's like, you know, raise, hit you. Yeah. And then it destroys your cells, it destroys your DNA.

And the more you get the worse it is, the more you're exposed to. And there is kind of a rule of thumb for if it gets to this level, you're going to die. Right. They can't help you. And it's going to be really nasty. They can't help you and it's going to be really nasty. As you're sad, you lose all your white blood cells, all that sort of stuff. Which I read that later on there was an accident and that's how they created bone marrow transplants. Because it destroys your marrow.

The first ever marrow transplant was people that had been exposed to radiation. Wow. So they gave them new bone marrow. These are silver lining. There you go, exactly. It's all sides. Oh, thank God for this. Now, remember how I said that you split atoms by firing neutrons at them? Yes.

Well, plutonium naturally sheds its own neutrons, so they're constantly shedding them. So the team were experimenting with surrounding the core in different materials to see if they could form a shield around it that acted like a mirror that made the neutrons bounce back onto the atom. So the neutrons are flying off it. You put up a mirror around it. It's gonna hit back into the atom,

which is gonna split them, fission. Yeah, right. And it's more efficient because you don't have to fire shit at it, it's firing stuff at itself. Right, yep. So they monitored the state of the court to see how much radiation was giving off, depending on what type of material surround it. So they were just like using different blocks of stuff. Less than a week after Japan's surrender, and in the two days after the date of Rufus's canceled bombing run. On August 21st, 1945, Harry Dollyan, our young 24-year-old

physicist, returned to the lab after dinner to continue the experiments that he'd been doing. He's stopping for dinner, is he? Well, where's the work ethic? Well, he actually has extreme work ethic, because everyone else went home, but he went back to continue on his own. I think Harry stopped for dinner.

Which was, which is a breach of safety protocols. Oh, going back in. So he's a bad boy. He's a bad boy, that's right. He's good. Break for dinner. See you guys later, he just snuck back into the lab. Oh, yeah.

Okay, I'm back on board. Yeah, he's a bad boy. The only other person in the room was a security guard, private Robert J. Hemmley, who sat about 10 feet away. The experiment the dollon was doing involved surrounding the court with bricks made from tungsten carbide, which reflected the neutrons back onto the court to start the reaction. He was adding brick by brick, monitoring it as he edged it closer and closer to going critical, so the more he surrounded it with bricks, the more neutrons were firing back on itself

and the closer it was going, he's edging. He is edging this, this, this, Adam. Before it, yeah, wow, try not. Just take, this time does want to go to it. Yeah, but if you go too early, yeah. He's trying to go. Real slow. Yes.

Incredibly. A bigger bang. Yeah, exactly. Br. That's it. Brick by Brick, he built up the reflective tungsten wall around the core until his neutron monitoring equipment indicated the plutonium would go super critical if you added any more. Remember the idea is to push it as far as you can

without going too far. And it's about to go too far. He moved to pull one of the bricks away, but in the process accidentally dropped the brick directly onto the blue giantium core. It immediately went super critical, which generated a blue light, and a wave of heat. What is that? Well, in an instant, Dolly and reflexively pushed the brick away with this exposed hand.

This stopped a runaway chain reaction, but exposed his right hand to massive amounts of radiation. He felt a tingling sensation in his right hand straight away. Okay, tingling, I was expecting it to feel worse than that. I think it's gonna get worse. Oh yeah, so you're right, you would think. Yeah, just feel like burning.

Not just like, oh, I set up my hand for a bit. Yeah, tingling, almost sounds nice, but yeah, wow. So he could see a blue. Yeah, blue light, just for like, it's like he's creating, this sounds like how a superhero begins. Yeah, it totally is. He drops the brick, he goes shit,

realises straight away, instinctively grabs it and knocks it off, which stops the reaction. He should have got to stick or something. But lots of tongs. Sorry, he but that action saved. Yeah, because if he kept it going, it would have gone super critical. Because it's one of those things where it gathers momentum. And the longer you leave it, the more it goes. The chain reaction just gets out of hand, like so quick. So it's on there for like a fraction of a second, still already it's gone super critical.

He's like, fuck! Yeah, right. Knocked it off. So like to get a stick or something it might have been too late. Yeah, probably wouldn't have had time. Right, so it was pretty courageous. Yeah.

Or instinctively at least. Yeah, instinctively put his hand on the line. His hand glowed blue. Fuck off. And then immediately blistered and he was rushed to hospital. Oh, no. Unfortunately for him, in that brief incident, he had received a lethal dose of radiation. instant he had received a lethal dose of radiation. He was an estimated to have received between 20,000 and 40,000 REM, which translates as ronkin equivalent man, which is the unit that he now used, which is four to eight times the dose usually estimated to be fatal. So remember I was saying before they estimate they go, sometimes it's a bit touch and go, but once you hit a certain point they're like, oh, right. And I would like even if he instantly chopped his arm off it's too late. Yeah, just because it's his hand, but once you hit a certain point, they're like, oh, right. And I would like, even if he instantly chopped his arm off,

it's too late. Yeah, just because it's his hand, but it's also his body. Yeah, just instantly. You're too close. Right. Dolly and was hospitalized and treated in an intensive care unit for severe radiation poisoning. And there are photos online of his burnt and blistered hand

and it looks fucked. Oh, yeah. I will not be posting this. Thank you. Poor man. He slipped into a coma and died 25 fucked. Oh yeah. I will not be posting this. Thank you. Poor man. He slipped into a coma and died 25 days after the accident. Wow, 25 days. It's a pretty grueling death. Yeah, he'd been agony. And they just said they just didn't understand enough then. Well, they have known straight away. They're like, if anyone in the world knows the risks, these guys, because they've been creating these weapons.

He wasn't meant to be in there. But he thought, it's easy. I just take away this brick and I'll bring it back down slightly. Brick by brick, I'll bring the core back down to normal. But he accidentally just, it's human error. He just dropped it on top of it. And the security guard you also mentioned? Well, the security guard on duty also received

a dose of radiation, but it was non-lethal. Although he did die of leukemia 33 years later at the age of 62. Impossible to say whether he would have naturally got that. Right. But that disease is, that disease is often associated with the radiation. Right.

That's true. But Dolly was the first known fatality caused by a criticality accident. So he was the first ever in the world to be killed by one of these accidents. Right. Wow. He might have been the first, but he would not be the last. No. Despite safety regulations for the project being scrutinized further and revised after the

accident, new rules came in that stated that two people were needed to conduct such experiments, which is already was protocol, but now they're on much more serious about it. Instruments monitoring neutron intensities with audible alerts were introduced and contingencies were introduced if ever such an accident ever occurred. But having said that, he knew it was about to go super critical. It wasn't that he didn't know. He just fucked up and dropped the brick on top of it. He's already surrounding it with bricks and that's making it go crazy enough. But if you're putting it directly on top of it, that's why it went absolutely melt down. But that will never happen again, right? Well, cut to exactly nine months later to the day. Canadian physicist and

chemist, Lewis Slotin or Lewis Slotin was continuing the experiments on the Rufus Corps. Born in Winnipeg in now 35, Slotin had also worked on the Manhattan Project. According to the New Yorker, which has a great article by Alex Wellerstein on Slotin, quote, at that time, Slotin was perhaps the world's foremost expert on handling dangerous quantities of plutonium. He's the guy. He's the plutonium, man. He's the guy, yeah, you get this guy in. He's like the world's foremost expert. So he'd think safe parahands. Less than 12 months earlier, he had helped assemble the first atomic weapons, the most dangerous

bomb ever made up until that point. And there's a photo of him standing next to it whilst they're making it with his shirt unbuttoned, wearing short shorts and sunglasses. He looks a lot like Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park. Seriously. That's great. I'll show you. You can go blue and white.

Yeah, look at that. Oh, sorry. And there's the photo. I'll put it in. I'll put it in. I'll show you, you can go blue by. Yeah, look at that. Oh, sorry, and there's the photo. I'll post both of these. There's the photo of him just hanging out.

shirtless. Next to the most dangerous weapon ever made. It's very go blue. During this time, he actually wanted to leave the ongoing project and return to teaching. But a replacement chief bomber similar had to be trained up. Enter Elven, C. Graves, who was also part of the Manhattan Project, and it helped build the first nuclear reactor, which was extremely experimental and especially dangerous at the time. He was part of this as Elven of Enrico Fermi's quote, suicide squad. We're assigned to smash a five-gallon glass

bottle containing a solution of cadmium sulfate over the reactor with hammers if something went wrong. So if there was a meltdown, the hope being that cadmium would stop the runaway chain reaction. Holy shit. But if it got to that point, you'd be pretty lucky to survive standing that close to a nuclear meltdown. I just want to be on like the friendship squad. Oh, yeah. Or like the friendship squad. Or the milkshake squad. Oh yeah, we go get milkshakes. So after hammers don't work, you throw milkshakes out of it.

Yeah. Yeah. But you've had a chance to go put on a hazmat. Yeah. I'd be living in one. Oh great. Come to the suicide squad. Yeah.

One made out of like double petroleum. Yeah. Well, some are even a suicide squad. Yeah. One made out of like double petroleum. Yep. Well, someone even stronger than that. Yeah. Triple? I'd be in a full suit of armor, I think. Yeah. Made out of.

Made out of one, maybe each of the top 10. Because that's how the periodic tables ranked, right? Yeah. So I choose the top 10 best ones. Yeah, right. First one, hydrogone. Hydrogone. Second I guess the top 10 best ones. Yeah, right. First one, hard to zone. Hard to zone. Second one.

Healyum. Healyum. So you're surrounded by gas. Yeah, right, yeah. Hard gas. But what if you suck in helium and you have a funny voice at all times? Yeah, perfect.

Well, I'd move. Hello. Hi everyone, step back. I've got a milkshake. I've got a real thing. Oh no, it's going into meltdown. Run! Run! Run!

Run! It's very hard to take that guy's ear for. I'm saying again. Oh no, not now. Oh, what a whole week. Tell me, what a whole week. Sorry, man. Slutton.

Helvin? Say something. Sotten. Helvin. You say something? That's great. Yeah, that's a good, I think that's a solid point. So yeah, that was the top two. I don't know if helium. Yeah, I'll use it in the following.

And the following, yeah. Yeah. Philharmonic. Let's go there. Diodorium. Yep. C-Borgium. Let's go there, D-Dodorium. Yep. C-Boggin, let's not forget that one. C-Boggin, B-Boggin.

Yeah, D-Boggin. D-Boggin. Wow. Fiboggin. Fiboggin, isn't it? Yeah, so you got to cover them, come from later on, but you know, give them a go. You sort of, sometimes you got to like, believe in an element, and it a go. You sort of, sometimes you gotta like, you believe in an element and it'll grow.

It'll grow with your belief. That'll go in important. So sometimes like, well, one element overtake another. Yes. I mean, if you've been concentrating on the table, they'd change around all the time. Dave, you've got to watch the table news of the ranking system.

Yeah. Yeah. If one of them is really improved, sometimes the head of the table will go shuff up a bit. What would you say is 2020's most improved element? Most improved. Yeah. Probably boron. Yeah. Boron's coming up with the bullet. Yeah. It used to be boron used to be a laughed at, but now. Now it's yeah. How do a good year. How do a good year? Look at itself. Big pre-season. Bit of the gym. Yeah. yeah, bulking up and yeah, just like a real body.

Looking good. Yeah, put on a lot of white, but mostly muscles. Yeah. Yeah, it's all tone. It was. They're actually stomach shed. So that bomb's actually called muscle man. Or shred.

Is it shred or shed? Shred. They're actually starting, they're in the shred phase. Yeah. Yeah. So you can see what you're wearing. Uranium sheds. Neutrons. All right science facts break it down Thank God we're here to explain. Yeah, I know. Thanks you break it down honestly. That's what break it down now

Boran Really got me that was fun. Dave's coming, science class, you 10. Hat backwards. Let me rap. Let me rap some elements. Which way, which way does he sit on the chair? Oh, you better believe it's the wrong way.

He's so bad. Sitting upside down with the leaves going to my heart. Oh, fuck this hurts. God, it looks so cool. I wish there was another one. No, he thought me I was another one. I'll see a ruler, break it. In my ass.

Break it off in my ass. I broke a chair leg off my ass. I gotta go to hospital. Help me. But what have we learned today, kids? So anyway, back to Slotin He wants to get out of the game wants to go back to teaching physics and chemistry. Oh Okay, is this the this a story where if that had happened he's still be a lot of happy

Well probably not now I mean this is 75 years ago sure people can't live past 75 I'm sorry this new boy baby can't even live 75 years ago. Sure, people can't live past 75. That didn't really. I'm sorry. This new boy, baby, can't even live 75 years. We're going to fly. Well, I mean, if you still love him, he'd be 110. Yeah. But it's possible. It's possible. I'd like to believe it's possible. No, David is. People have done it. So what I'm saying is he's alive. Yeah. In here. Where are you pointing? My boobs. Yeah. In here. Where are you pointing? Love it. Yeah.

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They're still edging this little thing. He had developed his own method of getting it very close to critical the point of going critical without it actually going critical. They're still edging this little thing. He had developed his own method of getting it very close to critical, and it also became a... Oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no I'm thinking of dead dogs. I really cool for your grandma. What a nightmare must be there. If you're having to think of something gross as you old man. Can't wait to burn a nut. So a lot of it is actually thinking about gross things.

What if it's actually quite traumatic? It's, it's real hot. Poverty, poverty, okay, okay, I'm good. I'm back. So he's continuing to try and get it to go critical with that going critical. He had developed his own method of getting it real close and he'd become a bit of a showman known for his provado. He was known to where his trademark blue jeans and cowboy boots was carrying out the test. This is the Jeff Goldblum guy. He invited his replacement,

Elven Graves and some other men to watch the experiment. He made them all also wear cowboy boots. Come on guys, this isn't for safety. It's fun. We've got to look cool. Okay, it's fun. Teamwork. What he would do is he would slowly lower a lid of burilium that looked, what number's that one do? Four, number four. A lid of burilium that looked like a large bowl

over the top of the core. This is technically called a tamper. Burilium reflects neutrons, so they're closer it got to fully covering the core, the more fission occurred. So if you lower it really close to it, the chain reaction is going crazy in there. But he never wanted to fully enclose the core with the burrillium for it risks going critical. It's kind of like a chef with a metal closh covering a fancy meal. He never wanted to fully cover that meal. It's a great one.

Because you eat with your eyes. Yeah. Exactly. Thank you. Throw that myself. Yeah. I thought of a tamper, tamper, tamper. Sometimes it's not bad.

Sometimes it's not bad. Sometimes it's not bad. So he put a little hole in the top of the tamper. So he could hold it in one hand, a bit like how you hold a bowling ball. Yeah, okay. So he's holding the outside of the round bowl, but there's a hole in the top of it, so he puts his thumb in there, and you can hold it with one hand.

And this is where it gets really dodgy. Between the bottom of the tamper and the outside of the core, he, in the other hand, had a screwdriver. Hmm. In theory, the screwdriver formed a wedge between the tamper and the cause base, so the lid never fully closed over the car. So it's holding it in one hand, the tamper, and in the other hand, he's jamming a flat head screwdriver so it can never close properly. A real DIY, home handyman kind of.

Yeah. With a fucking plutonium core. And his thumb. Yeah, his thumbs exposed. Is that what you're saying? Thumbs exposed? Yeah, but it's not going critical, so it's fine. Right.

He's put a little condom on it, so it's nice. They protect from everything. Finger gloves. It is. Yeah, gold fingers. Sorry. It was a pretty precarious wedge, especially when you're dealing with some of the deadliest shit man has ever discovered. And nine months earlier, it's killed your friend and colleague in a horrible and painful way.

Nevertheless, he'd done this experiment many times. Oh, dear. This is the spite warnings from senior colleagues. On Rico Fermi, who's a giant in their field, often called the architect of the nuclear age, he warns Lotin that he would be quote, dead within a year if you continue to do such precarious experiments. Yes. The architects are very cool nicknames, by the way. That was cool, isn't it?

Yeah. Do you prefer that or Cobra? The architect. Now Cobra, you can be the architect, that's great. You're more likely to pull off the architect. Yeah, you look like an architect. You do not look like a cobra. Exactly.

So that's such a good code name. Like in a movie, if I was like an arms dealer or something, they'd throw out for the first 45 minutes, they'd talk about cobra and they'd be imagining like this amazing, tough, badass guy. And then like I'd meet them in Times Square or something, they'd be like, your cobra? Yeah, hey, how's it going?

Hey, hello! Oh, I sucked in too much helium. No, I was so late to give you a house. Cobra out. Cobra out. Yes, show me how to give you a ship in a Vem16 Raffles no worries. Take life! Take life!

I kicked them in my mom's garage. Cobra out! After I told her, she doesn't say... She says, we should be like, was this Spanish man coming inside? I asked, what the briefcase for the money? Mom, don't worry, man, it's my friend. He doesn't need a cup of tea, mom. Why selling M610s to a Spanish man?

Uh-huh. What's so many questions? I wouldn't say no to a Spanish man. I say culinary creed. The only color I say is green. Money isn't green. How confusing that all the money is the same. Yeah, that's right.

Okay, I'll take that back. I've just never seen a whole bill. That's not something I have in my wallet. Let me tell you. Well, you got to really you gotta do some real business. And then you'll see the real color of my. That's right, you gotta do some dodgy cashier and leo jobs. But if I had a 50 and a 10, you put them together.

Yeah, 60. You got 60. That's what I'm gonna do. And then I'm only, him at 40 a.m. You've got a majority of $100. Pretty good. Pretty good. So he's been told, mate, you'll be dead if you keep doing this.

Yeah. But he keeps doing it. And now he's showing people the screwdriver experiment even got its own nickname. It was a screwdriver experiment? It's even more badass. It was called, well, maybe not. It was called tickling the dragon's tail.

No, that sucks. I hate that. Because it was known as being extremely risky. What, one, Wulgy tickler dragon's tail, and two, Wulgy balance your life on a fucking screwdriver. Yeah, it's not a great idea. I don't mind it tickling the dragon's tail. It sounds like a euphemism for wanking.

Well, yeah, that's why it's so good. It works two ways. Multiple on Tondra. Despite the known risk, certain continued the experiment this time in a room full of guys, including his replacement, Elven Graves, as well as three physicists, an engineer, a photographer and a security guard, so they're eight men in the room. To quote from the New Yorker again, as you began the slow and painstaking process of lowering the tamper, one of his colleagues, Ray Meshriba, turned away to focus on other work,

expecting that the experiment would be uninteresting until several more moments had passed. But suddenly, he heard a sound behind him. Uh-oh. Slote and screwdriver had slipped, and the tamper had dropped fully over the core. Oh, no. When tribe had turned around, he saw a flash of blue light and felt a wave of heat on his face. Oh, on his face. A week later, he wrote a report on the mishap, where he wrote,

the blue fat flash was clearly visible in the room, although it, the room, was well illuminated from the windows and possibly the overhead lights. The total duration of the flash could not have been more than a few tenths of a second. Sloten very quickly in flipping the tamper piece off. This was about 3pm. So, he's balancing the screwdriver, but it's slipped out, and now the closh has gone fully over it.

And then in split second, gone super critical. Right. And yes, so the guy who had the blue light in his face, he, a week later, is still not in a coma or anything? No, he was okay. He was far enough away. Right. But Jeff Goldblum.

But Jeff Goldblum, he quickly realizes mistakes straightaway. He knocked the two halves apart and stopped the chain reaction from getting even more out of control. Yeah. He then quietly announced to the room, well, that does it. He knew it was really bad.

The security guard watching on who had no idea what the purpose of the experiment was because he was not a scientist. He saw the blue light and was suitably freaked out and you ran to get help. Because you went, you'd be like, what the fuck? Yeah, that's probably not good. That's never happened before

and they never looked this scared. I better go get help. None of them are cheering so that's not what they were aiming for. Did you want to see the blue light? Shoot my face beyond fire. Later calculations put the total number of fish and reactions, which is when the Adam splits,

in those tenths of a second at three quadrillion. That's a lot. That's hate. So that's three quadrillion Adam smashing into each other, which sounds like so many, but that is still a million times smaller than the first atomic bomb. Holy shit.

Three quadrillion times a million. But it was enough to send out a significant burst of deadly radioactivity. Oh, no. As an ambulance was called and the rest of the lab was evacuated, those still in the room tried to calculate how much radiation they'd been exposed to. Quickly trying to work out who lives and who dies. That's a fun game of most friends.

Sluton, the one who'd slipped the screwdriver, made a sketch of where everyone had been standing at the moment of criticality. In his calculations, he tried to use a radiation detector on various items that had been near the core around the room. He tested a brush An empty Coca-Cola bottle a hammer and a measuring tape. Sadly the detector itself had also been exposed and contaminated so much that it didn't actually give accurate readings

Wow Jan he he's in there going He's basically gone who in here did I kill yeah? He he's like, oh, I probably made it. I probably gone, but how far away was everyone else? Ugh. Again, from the New Yorker, quote, Slotin instructed one of his colleagues to lay radioactivity detecting film batches

around the area, which required the scientists to go dangerously close to the still overheated core. The Aaron resulted in no useful data and was mentioned in a later report as evidence that after an exposure of this magnitude, human beings are in no condition for rational behavior. So he's like the plutonium expert of plutonium experts and this has happened and he's told a guy to set up an experiment that will give no data and make him go closer to this thing that's still... Right.

...putting out radiation. All those in the room were taken to hospital and certain vomited several times, but by the next morning he'd stopped. He seemed generally in pretty good health, but he's left hand. The one that had been closest to the core was tingling and became increasingly painful. Both of his hands began to blister. His whole dose was around 2100 REM, or REM, of neutrons, gamma rays and x-rays.

500 REM is usually fatal for humans. So he had four times that. Wow. His parents were flown out to see him in hospital. His white blood cell count dropped. His temperature and pulse were all over the place, and an examining physician noted internal radiation burns that he described as three-dimensional sunburn.

Oh, don't really know what that means. Oh, he's cool. He's cool. He's all good. Oh, yeah, that's fucking incredible. Yeah. That's something you can't see or, you know, like, I know.

You can impact a human that way. Yeah, it's just, it's fascinating. It is like, you know, putting yourself on the microwave at a really high temperature real quick. Eventually, he sank into a coma and died nine days after the exposure, dying in the same hospital room as his friend and colleague, Harry Dolly and her.

What was Dolly's exposure? Was it similar or was it more? It was, I think it was similar, but he died after 25 days. Yeah. I'm sorry, I couldn't remember the number for him. He'd had a lot more, actually, just looking up here. He'd had 20 to 40,000. But for whatever reason, maybe you were

his position over the core because certain was standing right over the top of it. It really fucked him up. Yeah. So it's interesting, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, his body was shipped back to Winnipeg where it was buried in a sealed casket, probably still radioactive. And he was 35 years old, not very old at all.

I didn't even think of that, yeah. Yeah, the nearest person to certain, uh, certain during the experiment was the man that was to replace him Elven C. Graves. He'd been watching over Slotin's shoulder and was thus partially shielded by him, receiving a high but ultimately non-lethal radiation dose. That is a, at some silver lining for this guy is that he, his body actually protected most of the rest of the room. Wow. He'd copped it and absorbed it all. That's why he died.

Yeah. But no one else in the room died because he was standing over it. Really? Did anyone get leukemia or anything like that? Well, Elven Seagraves is the closest guy. He developed chronic, even though he was hospitalized for several weeks. He lost his hair and he at a time had a sperm count of zero. Wow, that's so it.

Wow. Yeah. Wow. At a time so they came back. Well, he developed chronic neurological and vision problems as a result of the exposure, but he did recover. He returned to work and had a healthy baby daughter two years later. Holy shit.

Two years later as well. That's like, that's a pretty quick turnaround. Pretty good. Wow. He did die of a heart attack 20 years later at the age of 55, and it's unclear whether the exposure contributed to this. Yeah, right.

I suppose you could say that for any of their deaths, can't you? Yeah, and another guy, Marian Edward Schleske, he was a physicist who was also in the room. He died of leukemia 21 years after the accident. Wow, that's something I feel like, I mean, it's a small sample size, but a bit of a pattern. And only 20 years later, and I think the security guard was like 30, something 30 thought was

later or something. Something. And what Smith Young, the photographer in the room, he died 27 years later of a plastic anemia, where the body fails to produce blood cells in sufficient numbers. Right. And this is possibly a side effect of radiation poisoning. Yeah, it sounds very good. But again, it's hard to say, what do you've developed that anyway?

Did it make it quicker or did it make it happen? Right. It's really hard to say. So after being involved in the first two deaths caused by a criticality accident, Rufus began being referred to as the demon call. Oh, okay. That's why it's called that.

And why are they even still playing with it now? Yeah, these are the toys. You know, I get a slinky. Oh, yeah, slink is an okay. They're fun. But is anybody died of radiation poison after a plane with a slinky? Yes, but not for a long time. Okay.

After it fell into a reactor core and so on, jumped up. What's like? So what's the goal of it at this point? Oh, they would just continue experiments to work out ways of getting it critical. This is for a possible like, for making a second world war now. A second world war, but still to make an even more effective bomb. Right. Yeah, that's what they're trying to do. Prior to the second accident, it was expected that the demon core would be sent to the

bikini atoll in the Marshall Islands, which I believe is where the Bikini comes from. What? The name Bikini. There you go. In the Marshall Islands, it would be detonated as part of Operation Crossroads, the first post-war series of nuclear tests.

Thousands of observers were to watch these explosions, including Louis Sotin, he was supposed to be there, but he never made it. But after the incident, the corps were still radioactive and they had to wait for their radioactivity to decline, so it never made it to this bomb test. It's interesting they called it the demon corps, but it sent those two just clumsy accidents. Two fuck-ups. Yeah. It was full Two fuck ups. Yeah.

It was full human error. Yeah. You can't really blame the core for that. For doing what it was designed to do? Yeah, it's amazing. Are you imagining Rufus is like a cute little animated boss? I guess so, yeah. Can't blame him.

You can't blame Rufus. Come on. And I ask you because I definitely am. You naughty demon core. Oh, Rufus, you know, I watched Paddington the other night and he's like, so well-meaning, but he just keeps making mistakes. Doesn't know how Sikitate works.

So he gets it everywhere, you know? But he's not radioactive. No. As far as I'm concerned. I haven't seen the second one. Me, though, I don't know. Yeah. Eventually Rufus, the demon core was melted down in 1946 active. No. Well, I haven't seen the second one. Me though, I don't know. Eventually, Rufus, the demon core was melted down in 1946 and reintegrated into the US nuclear stockpile.

The two incidents at Los Alamos had a lasting effect on nuclear safety. All hands on assembly work was banned and people no longer handled cause with their hands. Good. Subsequent critical testing of fissile cores was done with remotely controlled machines where the operator sitting safely in another room. That's a good idea. Yeah, that's that's up. That's funny, I guess, yeah, you assume that's how it always was, but it's become that way because of these accidents. Yeah, that's right.

It's like that's why Homer Simpson sort of just puts his hands through that glove wall. Yeah, but before that I was just a dude with a screwdriver. Yeah. And cowboy boots. Yes. And no buttoned up shirts. Sounds like a genuine badass who, yeah, just no fear for a- No fear.

Really, like a fucking- Probably you should have had some fear. Yeah. Especially in a room when he's dealing with other people's lives. But really, that's the story of the demon core. And it's tricky one because the weapons that these men created and developed cause untold, suffering and destruction. Yeah. So I don't know if I guess the story only on them in their fate, but I just thought it was pretty interesting. Yeah. It's fascinating. The lengths that we as humans have gone to. Yeah. Yeah. And I suppose that they argue, well, if the other's that the enemy had gotten

at first, they would have used it on us. So that's why we had to beat them whatever, but a lot of them did go on to regret. To regret making it and even Robert Oppenheimer, the head of everything, he later opposed them making hydrogen bombs which are even more dangerous and got blacklisted by the government because he went, you wish he wouldn't be experimenting with this shit anymore. 1989, the film Fat Man and Little Boy that follows the Manhattan Project features a character based on Dolly and so it played by John Q. Sack. And he does the screwdriver experiment and it fucks up

and it's a really tense scene. You can watch it on YouTube. No thanks. I'll just watch Paddington too. Yeah. But I'll take your word for it. Yeah, so. Wow.

But he's like an amalgamation of the two characters. Dave, that was a very interesting report that even I, an idiot, could follow. I'm glad that it was, you know, as you know, you work with an idiot. Well, as is often the way when you're doing the research, whatever, I've watched these videos and things like that. I want to make it so it's easy for people that haven't seen that to understand. Yeah.

But also not boring as shit. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. But like, getting the, so edging something to super pretty good. It's fine. And can I just say that we started the year, the first episode, was the eruption of Mounts and Hellons, a disaster, and we finished the year with yet another disaster episode. It seems very fitting for 2020.

Well done. We should have sang this on. Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show, the fact-quotal question, the section, which I think that's a little jingle. Fact-qu-a-question! I always remember the thing. Now, to get involved in this, you can go to dogonepod.com, do, or Patreon.com slash do gone pod, and sign up on the Sydney Shamburg Deluxe Memorial Edition package level, Rest in Peace, and then you get to give us a

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you get to give yourself a title, you get to give us a fact to quote or a question. First up this week we got Roy Ajay Phillips, who's given himself the title of the pessimistic pest which exists amidst us. Are you dead get me? He said, I'll get you soon, Matt. You have yourself.

The pessimistic pest which exists amidst us. That's amazing. That's really hard to say. A midst. A midst. A midst. Exist amidst us. A pessimistic past which exists amidst us. Yeah, it's the amidst.

Hmm. Amidst us. Amidst us. Roy, ask a question. Which is your favorite bit or joke from a show or routine of each other's context to be damned? Ooh. It's a bit of a joke from a show or routine of each other.

Oh, that's really hard. It's been a while now. Yeah, no, it has been. It's been a... Dave, what's Dave's bit about, especially for Dave. Was your last gig in Kosovo? No, I've been a Perth. Perth and then Dublin last year.

They were since Thailand. Yeah. But this time last year. That's why it's a classic pullback and reveal line about you being your partner dying or something. Oh being pregnant Same diff and I wish I well. Yeah, that's a very good thing. I'm just often an opening bit I have good people go well, do you expect him to say that yeah, I think that's that's the part of it is like World's like it's like what's kind of That's the part of it is like, well done. It's like what's going to be.

That's kind of fun. And Bob, I mean, she's got so many great bits, obviously. The classic, the, the, the, the, the, the, the rapper bit, the classic bit, the list bit. Yeah, your list bit is so good. That's such a great joke. It's fun to do. So I like it.

The, the spoons. I always love that line. Why all the spoons? That's one of the very first jokes. I also love Matt. I think that you said sometimes didn't work, but when you, what shame to mutt. I think that's a very funny. What shame to mutt?

Oh yeah, that's very funny. It never never worked. For me, that's just a really funny phrase. Yeah. I mean, it sounds funny. What do I want? It's a B funny? They're asking too much of me.

Also, like your regrets, your list of regrets. Oh, what's the bit you have about boxing in your most recent show? Oh. Oh, bad. Punching something. Yeah, that's good. That really made me laugh. Again, I did not expect you to say it. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. Really made me laugh. Again, I did not expect you to say it.

Yeah. So, it's really funny. Yeah, that's, yeah, the, it's really unpacking the soldier that bit at the heart of it. Yeah. It's putting up a mirror. Great question. I mean, he did say with no context, I think we deliver it on that.

That's right. People are going, quiet. Yeah,, so I think this bit sound terrible I missed bit. What is that? What if you're listening? Come see a show. It's on YouTube that one. No, tell me to see show. I'll never do another show. Really? I don't think so Who knows? The next one comes from Nicole de Morton He knows. The next one comes from Nicole de Morton, whose title is Burgess of Drunken Stories that have no point.

And Nicole writes a question, which is, if you were arrested, what would your family assume you had done? Public urination. Oh, really? I don't know. It wouldn't be anything. I wouldn't have murdered someone. They'd be like,

what have you done, you dickhead? Beat up a cop. Yeah. I'm always fighting the power, you know? Yeah, J-Walk or something. Yeah, it's probably J-Walk. It'd be something lame for me. Yeah, my own probably, they'd probably see my shanked knock.

Not like intoxication? Oh. No, they know, they know that I, yeah. You're, you're dreaded probably be there with you. Oh. Nah, they know. You know, you're dead and probably be there with you. Oh god. In the back of the Divi Bay. Oh, I'm a bit of a matured. I'm a bit so.

Yeah, nah, they probably would think it's that. But that'd be wrong, because that'll never happen. Cause it'd be shanking a knock. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, you want to be lying. Public urination, something like that. Probably might probably like, um, photo fraud. I was goingination something like that. Hmm probably might probably like em

Voter fraud. I was a tax that's what your parents would assume. Yeah. Oh, no, he's trying to vote for Grandmarr again God dammit. I won't grandmother be prime minister I'm in voting on grandma's bar Just don't keep voting you're're just writing in your mum. You're like, you're going by yourself. You can't keep doing that, mate. That's a very funny misunderstanding. I reckon if I got arrested, they'd probably think of some sort of administrative error.

Yeah, surely. A different Dave Warnocky murdered some. Come on. But come on. Come on. Come on. That or arson. The big two.

The big two. Great question, Nicole. Next one comes from Kelly Clark, who is the phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal. Phenomenologist. You were so close to that. You were getting mad at it. You were so, I was like, he's nailed it. The phenomenal, phenomenalologist.

I nailed it. Kelly is offered a fact and that fact is a Christmasy effect, which is I think Christmas is in two levels in a week or so ago. That's right, we're certainly Christmas-fart. The tree is still definitely out. Yeah, a tree. Big time. Oh, not mine, I'd throw it out the front.

Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out.

Get out. Get out. I know what you can say. It's you've got family over. Yeah. Get out. Get out. I know, I know. I know, not you, you can say. Just the tree. It's the trees out. We like another coffee tea. Coffee tea. Nipply.

Sherry. Port. I'm like, I'm super loving. I just start putting it on cricket gear. It's boxing day now. Yeah, come on. Come on. Walking in with the ball up.

I'll get scuzzled out. Kelly's got a Christmas effect. Come on, come on. Walking in with the bowler. I'll get scarlet out. Kelly's got a Christmas effect. And it is. The Immaculate Conception wasn't the conception of Jesus in Mary's womb. It's the name given to the conception of Mary in her mother's womb.

What? It refers to the belief that Mary was not impacted by sin or its results, even from her very first moments as preparation for being mummed to God the Son. If this has read before February 2, 2021, it is before the end of the traditional Christmas season, and it was read out just in time, with a month to spare, I think. So yeah, right, I always assumed it was the Maclick conception was about Jesus being born to marry without...

Yeah, without Joseph's help. I always assumed it was the Madonna best of, so. Oh, the Maclick collection. Yeah, it's got a pun work there. Thanks, Madge, great work, great work. Thanks, Mads. Thank you, Varch Kelly. And finally, Thomas Doppelwreter writes,

or at first he's taught himself the visual quiz master of the Duke of Iron Patreon's Facebook group. And you are the master of it. And Thomas has given us a fact as well. His fact is, as I heard you talking about the flaming lips on the Krishmish episode, did you know that they released an album in 1997, Zerika, that is four albums

and is supposed to be played on four different systems at the same time. It is possible to listen to each of them separately, but it really comes together if you listen to all of them at the same time. No way. Yeah, and so I remember this coming out. I don't think I've ever listened to it,

but see, back when it came out, you need four CD players. Wow. And then every time, because you're pressing play on all of them, or even if four people are, it'll be slightly different every listen, because you'll never nail the same play, play or even it's microseconds off Yeah, it's an interesting idea. I remember it got a bit of a

Hype at the time or maybe afterwards it I don't think I'd heard of them until the 2000s But yeah, it's it that's a fun fun fact. I don't think I'd even have enough channels to play that on radio for tracks at once. Yeah, right. I wonder if they ever did play it on Triple J. That's where it would have been played if anyway, probably. That's interesting. That's a great fact. I didn't know about that. I'd like to give it a listen. So that's all the fact quotes and questions for this week. We also like to thank a few of our other Patreon supporters and just normally coming with a little game to play with their names.

What kind of footwear they are wearing in a very dangerous situation. I like it. I panicked. That's not me wearing our cab with it, it's whilst irradiating his whole body. Alright, well firstly, if I may, I'd love to thank from West Draitan in Great Britain That's what I need wearing our cab with, it's whilst irradiating his whole body. Yeah. Alright, well firstly, if I may, I'd love to thank from West Draitan in Great Britain, Keir Beals. Oh, Keir Beals, obviously.

Walking 10 feet off a beal, wearing slippers. What's a beal? I don't know, it's a line in this one hit wonder song from, I don't know, maybe the 70s, something called, Walking in Memphis. Walking 16 feet off a beel. I don't know what it means. I've never...

I know this song. I think. Yeah, walking in Memphis. Is that right? Do you even feel the way I feel? I don't know. How do you feel? Oh, no, it's going to be the first one to put on my blue

suede shoes. That's got to be what she's wearing. Blue shoes. Blue shoes. Yeah, that's it. I choose. What's walking with my feet 10 feet off a bill? Beal with capitalized B. Maybe it's just like another word for street or something.

Anyway, we've got sidetracked here. Bill, deaf, and Nishin. Bail. That's a different word. You suck. Alright, let's see. Important to get this down. Derethia.

It's a British school mistress. Well, I don't think that is correct. Definitely worth taking the time to get to this. No, I don't know. Anyway, I have a feeling it might be a street or something like that. Yes. It's something you can walk on. Keir Bill, sorry, Keir.

Sorry. Great name, Ke Kia as well. I don't think I've ever heard of a Kia before. OK, E-I-R. I like that. Yeah, nice one. Uh, I hope you're enjoying your blue suede shoes while doing something dangerously.

And I'd also like to thank from Horsham in England, Chris Steeer. Flip is. Chris Flippers. And what are they doing? Flip flopping. Yeah. Oh, what are they trying to do?

Sorry, they are trying to. Is it something underwater or the flip is underrated? Absolutely not, no. So they're trying to photograph a cyclone. Oh, wow, in Flippers. Yeah. They thought, I mean, if if it goes wrong it's gonna go wrong here It doesn't matter what I'm gonna I'll just I'll if they find my body at least it'll be funny. Yeah, they're thinking like it'll go Oh, was I really it was this guy sucked out of the ocean? Yeah, bit of a prank prank

Pranked with my dead body I just looked up kids.-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E- There you go. And not far off that name is Kieran Darcy from Birmingham in Great Britain. Kieran Darcy is wearing Ugg boots. Oh, I love my Uggs. I love my Uggs. I love my Uggs, but I wouldn't want to be doing them whilst doing a rodeo back of a bull.

Oh, back of a bull. Yep. With your U your eggs on. It's stuck in there. Little stirrups. I can't get you off. Little shoe holes. But you combed stirrups if you like.

Sorry. Come on. That gets technical sometimes. Shoes. Thank you, Karen. Can I thank some people? Please. I would love to thank from London Tom Rork. Tom Rork. Tom Rork wearing those little sparks you wear in the ice. Oh, crampons. Crampons.

Crack? Yeah, but I mean, obviously, that's not dangerous if you're in ice, but where is he wearing him? Oh, he's wearing him. To the supermarket. To buy tampons. Yeah. if you're in ice, but where is he wearing him? Oh, he's wearing him. It's a supermarket. It's a bi-tamp on it. And that's dangerous because if he gets the wrong one,

he's in trouble. You'll have to go back. Exactly. And he's trying to walk vertically up the shelf. He's like, what's at the top of the shelf? Let me find out. Where I'll get it. But the crampons only really work in ice.

Crampons are dumb words. It's no good. I enjoy it. I enjoy it. I get it. But the crampons only really work in ice. Crampons are dumb words. That's no good. I enjoy it. I like it. No, I mean it's too. Yeah, I like it because it's so dumb. So I couldn't believe, I've only worn them once and I couldn't believe that they were called crampons.

I say, what? Crampons. Alright. I'd also love to thank, thank you Tom. I'd love to thank, what's the country code, S.E. Is that sweet? Are you sweet? I'd love to thank, what's the country code, SE? Is that? I use Sweden. It's usually Sweden, I believe.

Yeah, from a place I cannot pronounce in Sweden. Mondale. Mondale. Mondale. Titus, dropt. Titus, dropt, a fantastic name. And Titus is wearing tissue boxes on my feet. Get these tissue boxes off my feet.

And what's he doing with the tissue boxes? What's he doing on there? He is trying to light a cigarette on my middle of a petrol station. Oh no, Ty! Ty, just stop it. You're wearing flammable shoes. I know, just wait.

Just wait. Drive away from the petrol station. No, he's driven there, he's walked there. Oh my God. In tissue boxes. Oh, damn, man. Just got the craving driven there, he's walked there. Oh my god. In tissue boxes. Oh, damn lady. Just got the craving. Seven a bad day.

No, no. Moulindal is just south of Gothenburg in Sweden on the West Coast. And the name comes from basically Mills Valley, Valley of Mills. Cool. Yeah. Nice. That sounds picturesque. Yeah. Yeah, look at that. Cool. Yeah. Nice. That sounds picturesque. Yeah. Yeah, look at that little spot.

Oh, gorgeous. Beautiful. Thanks so much, Tartus. And finally for me, I'd love to thank From Coventry. Great Britain, I'd love to thank Poppy Freeman Quiddin. I like the name Poppy. I like the name Poppy too. I like Poppy too.

It's cute. Poppy was on a short list of puppy names. Poppy the puppy. Poppy's a little sloppy. Poppy's a little sloppy. You never watched his hands. Great, great Poppy. Well, I know that's probably not a great one for Poppy.

I'm not sure that one so much, but great sound filled line. Poppy's a little sloppy. I'm sure that act. Like needing that. Yeah, well I'm sure that act needing that dirt. Yeah, well, I'm sure that act is now on Cameo, not watching his hands, I'm giving you a shout out. And Poppy is wearing stilettos while running a cross jumping castle, yes.

Well, it's running a jumping castle. I was gonna say running across grass because that's a real pain in the ass, but jumping castle. If you're running a jumping castle, the kids can do whatever they like. They're like, come on, pop it in, I'm not coming in here after me. Oh, my time's up. I can't get me.

Damn, you're kidding. She jumps on knowing that she's gonna have to buy another jumping castle again to get that smug guff. Yeah, come up and get those. Come up and fuck you down. I'm gonna get a new dog. I've got a couple of darren's face. Come up and... Fuck you, darren. You're a fucking darren. Darren, you dog. I would like to thank Ivame. Please.

From an unsclozed location, which I can only imagine, is the fortress of the moles. Ryan Wessonah. Ryan Wessonah. Ryan Wessonah. Songs. Yes. Flip flops. Flip flops on his feats.

Yes. And he's wearing them in Antarctica. Fullish behaviour. Oh my god, he's going to get frostbite and his tutsis. Oh no, no, he's got tutsis. You don't know tutsis now, Ryan. Oh my god. So good like balancing.

Sorry, Ryan, but that's a real bone-headed move. When did you pack, huh? What were you thinking? So, you're like balancing. Sorry Ryan, but that's a real bone-headed move. When did you pack, huh? What were you thinking? Did you want to beach and someone said, hey, good, pop down around to Arthur and you said, yeah, no worries. Yeah, he said, it's summer.

It's good to go. Summer on the Southern Hemisphere, right? And no one, and you didn't stop to pack. You have to take from beach to airport, come on. Come on, man. You'd be even cold on the plane in flip flops. Ryan, do you sign up to the Patreon for us to scold you? Because if so, we'd deliver it.

Yeah, we did it for you there. I have a great day here. Ryan, no, you're a good guy. And wherever you're from in the land of the old people, just wish you all the best. Yeah. What's warmed it in there, isn't it? Yeah.

It's all as well. It's all as best. Yeah, what's warmed it? Isn't it? Yeah, it's close to the core. It's always warm. Not the demon core. So thanks so much Ryan, you are a good man. We assume. I'd like to thank now from Dundee in Great Britain. Is it Dundee? Dundee, yeah, it's Scotland.

Of course. And a beautiful name here, Hague Crookshank. Oh, that is great. Hague. Hague, I agree. So, where are youokshank. Oh, that is great. Hague, H-O-O. So, wearing... Wellies? Oh, okay. And what do you mean he's wearing Wellies?

With holes in them. Oh. And he's going in all the puddles. What's that little, uh, sorry, don't, Russ. And Billy Connolly did a little, uh, a wee, a wee jobby. Yeah, in his wellie.

A wee jobby. A wee jobby. Ha, in his well-eared jobby. My parents definitely enjoyed calling Poo's jobbies. Yeah, jobbies. I think that's a bit. Josh L's family called him a little boy. Do you not drink the brown soup? That's so awful. I apologize everyone. Super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super Like finally from me, from Shirley in Great Britain, it's Jodie Thomas. Jodie Thomas. Jodie Thomas is wearing knee-high still-capped boots. I'm not sure why. Yeah, they love to take it. They're really hard to, they just heart you can't.

You can't really move your legs so well. But James protecting her toes, but also her shins. Yeah, it's sort of like, I guess it's sort of like medieval arm, I sort of stuff. Yeah, right. But up top, it's just like, you know, like a singlet. Yeah.

Yeah. I said still toad, but it's all still. Yeah. The point is, it's like, it's still, I mean, I wasn't lying when I said still toad. Right. But also, the rest is also still. The I said still toad. Right. But also the rest is also fit.

The rest, that was implied. Yeah. But she's wearing those while participating in Ninja Warrior. Yeah. And they are really slowing up there. She's like, it's come from a medieval fear. Yeah, she did not have time to change into her. But she's like,

Well, I love the challenge. She loves the challenge and she looks good in home. That looked great. And she's known as like, you know, the knight or something. Yeah, yeah. With her. Okay. great. And she's known as the night or something. Yeah, yeah. With a K. Yeah. So there's no switch there.

Or deadly night shade or something like that, you know? Yeah, okay. Right. So there is a switch. It's a double switch, meaning the switch is rendered useless. Yeah. So thank you so much to Jordy there from Shirley. I believe that's all our patrons.

Yeah. Can't believe we did it, but we did. So thanks to everyone, that's Jodie, hey, grind, poppy, tightest, Tom, Kirin, Chris, and Keir. So many great names. Can't believe they're the keep delivering. Is it like the only people great names are allowed in? Is there a rule or something? Yeah, we're kind of... We should open it up to everyone. Yeah, we're playing the John's

We're really we are bad business people and the John Wayne and the Wayne Jones Wayne Johnson Rock Johnson Let him it all say rock Johnson Where do you put the dig in? Let him eat all the same. Wine to do rock, Johnson. Where do you put the D game? Excuse me. A little play there.

So that brings the end of the episode almost. No, it doesn't, because we have to do the trip ditch. Let's have a look who is welcome to the trip ditch club. The way this works is if you're signed up on the shout out level for three years straight, you get a shout out once and then again, when you hit three years, you get inducted into the Triple Club. I'm losing it.

You get it once. I'm losing it. You win it. Nearly done for the year. Come on, hold it. Come on. All right. Now, the way this works is I'm sending the door.

I've got the, I've got the guest list. I've got the velvet rope. I'm gonna lift it. I'm gonna welcome you in. And Dave will hype you up. He's your hype man. It's Jess is Dave's hype man. So Jess will hype Dave's hype.

Yes. But once you're in, Jess has also provided some, or derves, some cocktails. What do we got? Well, you best believe we've got little boys. Little boys. Oh, yeah. And surely we've got the cocktail called tickle the dragon's cocktail. Yes, we do. And we also have another cocktail called the pink soup. Oh

delicious. And it's vodka and pink and pink and little boy juice. It's gross. The hot dog flavored water. Fred Ders that love it. Oh yeah. And Dave, you've booked a band, have you? Certainly have. Small and humble. It's Shakira. Whoa. Yes. Shaking it. You know. Shout that song from your toe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good song. Oh, the good impression. Okay. No, no, no. No, no. I, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, club from Eurottsfield in Austria, it is Thomas Hinterreger. Oh, I think she's got interesting around here. Yes! Yes!

And I'd also love to welcome in from Bloomington in Indiana, in the United States, Andrew. Frank. I mean, how can I deal with that? Yeah. F-R-A-N-C-Z-Y-K. Let me just say things just got... Frenchic? Oh, things just got a little frantic for alternatively.

In my pants, six. Yes, that's great. Or alternatively, we're saying that wrong. Things just got a little blooming to know if lost it. I can't remember what I was gonna say there. Okay. Where were they from again? Bloomington, Indiana.

I was gonna be a pun on Bloomington. I was gonna say, things just got blooming interestingly around here. That's the backup. Yeah. Okay, as we've said the name wrong, so sorry. But. But, fantastic work.

Enjoy Shakira while you're sipping on a little pink boy or whatever that thing was we said before. I think you'd call it a pink boy. No, what is it? Little boy. Little boy. Pink soup. Pink soup.

And tickling the dragon's cocktail. Okay, so that brings us the end of the episode. If you want to find us, we'll do go on across all social media. Do go on pod. Even more. That's right, after you go on pod and tell you what, this is the last episode of the episode. If you want to find us, we're going to go on across the social media. Do go on pod. Even more clearly. That's right, add to go on pod and tell you what, this is the last episode of the year, but things never stop here at do go on HQ because we will be back bigger, better, better

than ever in 2021 next week. Yes, we will. We never take a break. That's right. Much to our own detriment. Exactly. We are tired. you are killing us But you love content so I love the content you love it and we love Shakira Shakira Shakira

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