Do Go On - 283 - The Maze Prison Escape (with Nick Mason)

Episode Date: March 24, 2021

In the 1980s, The Maze Prison in Northern Ireland was considered to be the more secure prison in Europe. A prison, within a prison inside an army base, it was considered to be 'escape proof'. Imprison...ed members of the IRA saw it as their duty to escape, and in 1983 they put an audacious plan into action. But would they be able to pull it off? Joining us to hear the story is special guest Nick Mason from The Weekly Planet podcast.Get tickets to our live shows this March/April:Matt Stewart - Nostalgia Was Better When I Was A Boy (discount code 'dogoon): https://www.comedyfestival.com.au/2021/shows/nostalgia-was-better-when-i-was-a-boy Matt’s New Interview Show: ‘Matt Your Heroes’: https://youtu.be/VVsVGkzVNZQ Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Buy tickets to our streamed shows (there are 12 available to watch now! All with exclusive extra sections): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.com Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Listen to Nick Mason on The Weekly Planet:https://www.planetbroadcasting.com/our-shows/the-weekly-planet/  Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas REFERENCES AND FURTHER... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:02:52 where we are doing not just do go on that night, but beforehand, we're doing a live primates. Matt Stewart will be there, his guests, Evan Runner-Rusmith, Cass Page, and a guy I've never heard of. He might be all right, Nick Maceau've never heard of, he might be alright. Nick Maceau Mason. Can't confirm he's no good. No good, alright.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Well, come to the other three because they're great. That's the two o'clock, then straight after that, 415, you've got a bookcheap. Me, the book chook, telling two great guests about a classic book and all play, and those guests are Ben Russell and Michelle Brazier. Then you can go to match Stuart's down up, show it 6.55 then at 8.30 you can come see us do our podcast. Forgot what it was called. Forgot what we were doing right now. Yeah! So you can buy tickets to all those things and we would absolutely love to see you there.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Check out the link in the description for the links. Love you! Hello and welcome to another episode of Dugo on. My name is Dave Honkhi and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins. Hello Dave! And not as always we are here with a very special guest known as the fourth beetle himself. It's Nick, Mesa Mason. No, no guys, it's me, Mats Stewart.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I don't know, Mats Stewart. We were involved in a freaky Friday incident. So it's me. So don't even worry, listen. If you're out there, you're like, don't like me, Mesa. I don't know. I know they're out there. I don't believe that they are. Let me ask you a question that only Matt's doing.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Yeah. Go on. What is your pin code? St. Kilda? Damn it. Football club. It's true. It's a very, very long code.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah. He's gone to the ATM with Matt. He's there for 15 minutes. For the side half of your day, honestly. I put in all the best and fairest winners. I put in the norm-smiths medalist in all the best and fairest winners. Put in the norm smiths metal silver. It's all in there. It's really mad. But if you had to bolt it down to four, it would of course be 1960. Of course. So how do you get back into your body if that's
Starting point is 00:04:58 something you want to do? We're hoping for a bolt of lightning. Yeah. Like maybe at a urinal, like we're sharing a urinal, and there's a lot of lightning strikes maybe. You're just sharing. Yeah, playing swords. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how it happens. Nothing really classic. Wow. Maybe you have to learn a lesson, you know, like in Freaky Friday where she's like, maybe
Starting point is 00:05:18 my mom isn't so bad, you know. Is that the lesson I've been saying for a long time? I can't remember. I think it's my mom isn't so bad. I think. Well, they're the urinal? Yes! I think I'm at Stuart refused to learn any lessons.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah, I haven't learned any in 282 episodes of this show, so I refuse to learn any lessons. He's really good at if he's not at Stuart. He's done research. He really is. In this episode number. Bloody hell, I don't even know that. I know you don't.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I don't know what day it is. What day is it? Saint Kilda versus Collingwood. Oh my god. I don't know what day it is. What day is it? St. Kilda versus calling one. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Tism. Well, he's pulling out the catchphrase.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Now do a pun because he loves them. He loves puns. But he also doesn't fully understand them. So I mean, no pressure. Yeah, so do a pun. Do a pun. Do a pun. And then, well, you could say anything and then to say,
Starting point is 00:06:02 is that a pun? Well, like do a pin. Yeah. St. Kilda. Hmm, pun code? Well, I could do a pin. Yeah. It's like a killer. Pun-cord. Guys, I've just been tricking you, it is me. Oh my god. I'll trick you the whole time.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I convinced you of this weird supernatural occurrence that happened. But this is almost as if you're a friend of ours and no shit about us. And now I just don't know what to believe anymore. I don't know what to believe. This is crazy. Matt called, Matt message me and he said,
Starting point is 00:06:26 called me up as if anybody called anybody these days. He messaged me like, can you, can you feel it? I've got a gig to do. And he didn't tell me what the gig was. And it's like I've since learned that it's like quite a, like a prestigious, like it's a great gig. It's a great gig. It's a great gig.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Like a Nobel Prize piece ceremony. Like people are gonna listen, they're gonna buy tickets or whatever, but he pitched it like he was just gonna do five minutes of open market. At a pub, yeah, exactly. I can't come and do the podcast because I've got to. Yeah. I've got to do it.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Trying out a new bit, yeah. It's a stressful time letting up to comedy festival. You know, we wouldn't hold it against him if he did ditch the podcast for a five minute spot because every little bit of stage time right before the festival helps, right? But you're right, it is a very good gig that he's doing and he was like, oh, I can see if I can get around, I'm like, no, just go do the gig and have fun!
Starting point is 00:07:12 But he didn't form me, he might be rushing back. Because if you do not like me being here, he will definitely be back. So just hold our spokes. But then part of me also was like, well, if he doesn't come back, then I'll resume the leader of the most pods in a row without a break. Oh, Matt still got one in front of me after this because I've missed two in my time, but that was about five years ago. So, Wow. Have you missed one? No, I've missed two when I was in Europe one time and me.
Starting point is 00:07:43 So you filled in one was an Elvis episode? That was mad again. Oh, it was maddened and he was I've missed heaps You guys have really got to just have days off more, you know, I mean sure I got a couple of them with the funerals of close family members, but You know, I wouldn't have stopped manner on take it down Yeah, you're right. You guys are more dedicated. I podcasted live From barrels funeral People telling me to shut up. I said no you keep it down very I can hear you the priest in the background very good acoustics in a coffin Yeah, sounds great beautiful. Yeah, best sound and I chose a topic that barrel liked yeah
Starting point is 00:08:25 or liked. Yeah. And the tributes. Yeah. Just murder. Yeah. It's true murder. Now Dave, how does this show work? Well, yes, we take it intense report on a topic often suggested by one of our very dear listeners. And that person goes away. It does a bit of research on said topic, brings it back to the group. Does a little report. And it is my turn to do so. I've done the research. Neither of you know what the topic's gonna be. And we start with a question. My question is, I was a bit of a, a bit of a shit one, to be honest,
Starting point is 00:08:53 but when I don't know about you guys, when I was a kid, I loved doing mazes. You like doing mazes? Like a book of mazes? Yes. Yes. That was the question. I knew it.
Starting point is 00:09:03 But in the 80s, what was supposedly the hardest maze to escape? Oh dear, the labyrinth. Oh, kind of. Is it an emotional maze? Yeah. There's a lot of emotion in this story. Maze.
Starting point is 00:09:18 It is... Maze... Prism. Prism. The Maze prison. Another Mages. It's my guess. My guess is the Maze prison. And you'd be prison?
Starting point is 00:09:31 Prison. Maze prison. You think prison? That was like prison. Oh, the Eling prison. It's Maze prison in Northern Ireland because this is a jail breaking episode. Oh. How is Maze spelt?
Starting point is 00:09:44 Is it MZD? MZD, yeah. So named after a town, but then there, near where this prison is, but then it obviously got the cool nickname of the May's. Yeah, it likes that town named after. A May's? Something amazing. But I didn't research it.
Starting point is 00:10:00 It's an initial amazing. Yes! The James Sherry. Yeah. Great show. But I didn't research it. It's a TV show amazing. Yes, James Sherry. The James Sherry. Yeah. Great show. Oh, this topic was servoed for by the Patreon supporters, put up three topics and are they picked this one and it's been suggested by two people over the years and that is by Ted
Starting point is 00:10:16 Logan from Melbourne and from James Dini in London. Oh, interesting. And was this a bit of a landslide in the vote or just one? Yes, of the three topics, it got 50% of the vote. Whoa. It did quite well. But though the other topics I must say, they were very tempting to do. Yeah, okay, that's good.
Starting point is 00:10:39 So hopefully bring them back. Yeah, keep them in the back pocket. You can be disappointed that you're one didn't get up. The other ones were two Aussie stories. Okay. I just put up at the time of recording, just put up the vote for the first live show that we're going to be doing on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And I put two up that I was like, those would be really fun to research, really interesting stories, put another one in that I was like, they probably won't vote for it. A bit of filler. And it's pretty hard to research. And that's the one they've chosen.
Starting point is 00:11:06 So I know. I have to watch. I have to watch. I can smell your fear. Six hours of documentary to get information. So thank you, Patreons. Yeah, well good luck with that. Look forward to hearing about it on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Ooh. If you dig as left, if you're interested. All right, all right. So I'm going to give you a bit of background. Our story takes place during the troubles in Northern Ireland. Now I'll give you and the people at home, I guess they don't know, a brief background on what it is for some context,
Starting point is 00:11:31 but really should be its own episode or multiple episodes one day. It's one of those boards with the like the pop things, isn't it? Trouble the trouble. Trouble the dice in the middle. Yeah, yeah. It's quite a boring game, really, Trouble.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Always played it at my friend Nick's house though. Oh, I was Nick a bit boring. He just liked Trouble. I always played it at my friend Nick's house though. Oh, it was Nick a bit boring. He just liked Trouble. I think that I was there. So, that's a yes. Nick is boring. Yeah, because I wasn't. He's your friend's with Nick? I'm afraid not.
Starting point is 00:11:55 That's why. Yeah, boring. Boring Nick, all Nick's boring. Yeah, agree. Firmly agree. Super boring. You look like a Trouble fan. But if you're boring, you just speak loudly and with conviction and people don't notice.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Speak with the cadence of comedy, even if you're not making any jokes, and when you stop people laugh, and then they don't think about it. And you get to the end, and they leave, and they're like, it didn't say anything funny, it was just loud. But still, we'll give you an applause. Yeah, maybe a standing ovation. I want to watch the comedian do a gig where they absolutely bombed. No laughter.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And at the end they said, thank you so much. Good night or whatever. And then the audience applauded. And then that person said to me, I know I've done a good job when they give me that applause. And I was like, no, they're just polite. They're trained. That's what you do with me now.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I'm applauding you, leafing. Oh my god. You have not done a are just what you do with me now. Bought and you leaving. Oh my God. You have not done a good job and you've not learned anything. And that comedian's name? Nick. Yeah. That's certainly not true. Imagine though.
Starting point is 00:12:54 So the trouble, sorry to bring it back to the troubles. Also known as the Northern Ireland conflict was a period, I imagine you know a bit about this just with your Irish background. I do know a little bit, I learned a little bit when I was in Ireland and Northern Ireland as well. But you know, it is very complicated and it's very nuanced. Yeah, so I should actually preface this by saying I'm not trying to take a side here,
Starting point is 00:13:16 trying to be as impartial as possible, presenting a few examples of what happened, but definitely not an expert. I guess. I guess. Who are the good guys and who are the bad guys? Anyone not named Nick. Whoa. Get out of here. Get out of here, Nicky's.
Starting point is 00:13:33 So it's a conflict between 1968 and 1998. So 30 is also a long time to cover. In Northern Ireland, with violence spilling over to the Republic of Ireland, England and even the mainland of Europe. But most of the action went down in Northern Ireland because that's what the war was about. Northern Ireland was and still is part of the United Kingdom. It borders and shares an island with the Republic of Ireland, which is a bit of a confusing sentence, but it's spelled differently and written down.
Starting point is 00:14:02 It's basically in the top Northeast corner, the top right, Jess. I'm bad at geography and Dave knows it and I love it. The whole thing is very complicated and can probably be traced back as far as the 12th century. I'm not going to make that far. It's so complicated. But essentially it boiled down to two sides. Unionists or loyalists who desired Northern Ireland to remain part of the United Kingdom, happy where the way it was, and their nationalists or Republicans who wanted Northern Ireland to become part of the Republic of Ireland, have one country on that island. The UK loyalists
Starting point is 00:14:38 were overwhelmingly Protestant, and the nationalists who wanted to be part of Ireland were mostly Roman Catholics. But it should be noted however that despite the use of terms Protestant and the nationalists who wanted to be part of Ireland were mostly Roman Catholics. But it should be noted however that despite the use of terms Protestant and Catholic to refer to either side it was actually not a really dis-conflict. So that just makes it a little bit more complicated. It just depends on what they had for dinner on Fridays. Yeah, just take your fish. We were your two options. Big fishishing Ship Friday fan, I've got to say. And if that means taking a side, I'll do it. And there was quite a lot of violence during the 30-year conflict. On one side was the British Army and the Ulster Defense Regiment,
Starting point is 00:15:19 who said they were on a peacekeeping mission. And on the other side was the Irish Republican Army or the provisional Irish Republican Army, known as the IRA or as provos. Profos. Which, that sounds like a super Aussie sort of thing, doesn't it? Yeah, I don't like it. And I'm sad to report, this is all just the preamble, don't worry, we'll be breaking out of prison real soon, guys.
Starting point is 00:15:41 We'll be. God. It was not a great time in that part of the world, I don't know if I'd say. Britannica describes it as, quote, marked by street fighting, sensational bombings. Sniper attacks, roadblocks, and internment without trial,
Starting point is 00:15:55 the confrontation had the characteristics of a civil war. My goodness. But sensational. Sensational bombings. So well done. Ooh, it was sexy. God, this is a sensation. Tell everyone about the bombings. And this whole period is very much one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Very true. Now, so the IRA were responsible for a number of
Starting point is 00:16:18 bombings that killed many people. It's estimated that between 1969 and 1994 the IRA killed 1800 people, including approximately 600 civilians. That sounds very bad. But then on the other side they certainly weren't innocent. On January the 30th 1972 an event known to history as Bloody Sunday occurred when 30 unarmed Catholic civil rights demonstrators were killed and 15 more were wounded by British paratroopers during a civil rights margin deri and this event actually swayed public sympathy towards the IRA and boosted their ranks. Wow. And also, it was a hit for Bono. Yes. And the Irish love Bono. Oh they love love him. They love him. I love him. The whole world loves Bono.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Yeah. It's very, it's one of those guys that everyone likes, you know? Yeah. Like the nice man of rock, like Dave Grohl, Bono. Yes. Oh, yes. Jack Johnson. The nice guys.
Starting point is 00:17:17 They love him. A rock. They should do a nice guy of rock. That would be great. I just thought he seems nice. And Jack Johnson popped into a he doesn't really nice I think it's like Jack black I was like yeah rocker as well no Jack Johnson Jack Johnson yeah you even nicer hey
Starting point is 00:17:34 apparently oh man this is like a fact I heard from my ex-boyfriend and I have never verified but he said what where's this gonna go? Jack Johnson had such a low blood pressure, it was like dangerously low, he was like too chilled out. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha It just sound like. I'm gonna look it up now, but you continue with your ex-boyfriend like a guy who took people's blood pressure before they went on stage with gigs, is this? Who is this? It's a guy who's very specific, really.
Starting point is 00:18:12 I mean, what do we think to know? Does he write music because he's chilled, or does he chill because he's music is so chill and he's around it all the time? Hard to say. Look, nothing's really coming up when I Google that. Jack Johnson, he was just a 9-5 guy working in an office here, which had blood pressure through the roof.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And then he wrote one of his own song and then he listened back to his own song. And it was just a feedback loop. He listened to get out of pancakes and was like, oh my god, that's got so much to do. He's got more of a fortune every day. He'll have that effect. What an asker. Of rock and over. So there's bombings on one side.
Starting point is 00:18:48 There's bloody sundown, the other. Just trying to paint the pictures that there was lots of violence on the other side. And the violence peaked in 1972 when you leave 500 people, just over half of them civilians lost their lives the worst year in the entire conflict. And this time period coincided with the opening of May's prison, 16 kilometers west of Balfast, which opened the year before in 1971, which is the same year that Operation Demetrius was introduced in Northern Ireland, which was in an attempt to thwart the IRA, mass arrests were carried out, and 350 people suspected of being involved with the IRA were interred
Starting point is 00:19:25 without any trial. Or are they going to put them? Guess we'll never know. Good night, everyone. No, no. So they were thrown in the maze, but it turned out many of the people arrested had little to do with the IRA. So not great.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Whoopsie. Whoopsie. Which obviously pisses off the people you've arrested and also is not a good look for your side. But nevertheless, over the next decade, many of the IRA's most notorious paramilitary offenders were sent to the maze. This is again from Britannicus. Do you just give you a little taste of what the prison was like?
Starting point is 00:20:03 The prison population was divided among par- I can't say par- paramilitary. You just did it. Thank you so much, along par- paramilitary lines. No, you've done two in a row, Dave. I just said it once and I've just dropped it in. Ah, par- paramilitary. It's all because I believed in you, thank you.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Each prisoner responsible to his commanding officer. As a result, the prison was the site of many protests and violent activities, including hunger strikes, mass escape attempts, and murder. It was considered by some to be a university of terror, where both unionists and national prisoners learned how to commit deadly terrorist defences after their release. Yeah, because you're just putting them all together where they can chat. They chat, and then they stick to their military ranks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:46 And then, you know, basically their training was their represent. Ah, it's not quite what they were going for, was it? No. Seems like a little bit of a wopsy. Well, the maze was considered Europe's most secure prison. Ooh. In 1970s. Was there a moat?
Starting point is 00:21:03 There's no moat, honestly. Do you have paranas in it? They should have been a moat? There's no moat, honestly. Do you have piranhas in it? I should have mentioned. There should have been a moat with bread. It had nearly everything else you can think of. Okay. We can think of a lot of stuff that we're getting online.
Starting point is 00:21:12 We're getting online. We're getting online. Oh, good, great, yep, yep. Yeah, of course, I was trying to placate them with these bad, bad men. They didn't go for that. What do you mean? They didn't want to pin a color.
Starting point is 00:21:20 They're so delightful. Exactly. Foxtail? They're foxtail? Yeah, they're foxtail. Whoa. Wow. With most of the channels. They didn't pay for They're the Foxtail? Yeah, they're the head Foxtail. Whoa. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah. With most of the channels. They didn't pay for all the sports, but that's. But they have the good movie ones. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's all right. And they had Fox8, so they could watch the Simpsons.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Oh, Buffy Marathon. Oh, yeah. Simpsons every Saturday from 9 to 12 Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, you're a good time. I think it was 8 to 12, mate. Right, I didn't say. And then if you got up a little bit later, you could watch it on Fox 8 Plus 2. Oh, plus 2, I love that.
Starting point is 00:21:48 But if you got up too late, you missed them both. Yeah. Tretched. It's like, you're not getting up till 2 p.m. What are you? A hungover 18-year-olds? Yeah, okay. That was me.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Also, TV1, diagnosis murder every day, 10 a.m. gave me a reason to get out of bed. Just put a TV in your room. Should have done it. You're an idiot. What a fool. Anyway, it's a it's a it's a very secure and I'll tell you a bit about it. But any of the things we could think of as well.
Starting point is 00:22:13 So it's while including umbrellas and flexible. Aircon. No swimming pool. No, it doesn't have luxury. It's got a hotel. A positive luxury. Oh, it's got a swimming pool. When you want to stay there then. Yeah, I wouldn't like I'd stay in a hotel. How much are they paying?
Starting point is 00:22:30 50 50 what? Pounds as I use in Northern Ireland. Yes, 50 pounds A lot of money. Yeah, yeah, I'd be saying the hotel. There's no the 70s. I want a pool No, I want to go in that but. Yeah, there's no 70s. Not a pool. Not a pool. I don't like going to the internet, but I wanted to be there. Just in case, yeah. Doesn't know pool,
Starting point is 00:22:49 but there was a lot of bars. Okay. But not good bars. Oh, no. Metal bars. Okay. So in 1976, eight new prison blocks were opened within the existing prison.
Starting point is 00:23:02 And they were known as H blocks, because from the air they looked like the letter H. Oh for our nerdy listeners that reminded me slightly of tie fighters from Star Wars. Is that a thing, Mesa? Yep, that is a thing. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Just trying to crash into the ground. Just trying to, yeah, exactly. So just the letter H or tie fighter, whatever you want to imagine. I'll be imagining the letter H, please. I don't know what you two nerds are talking about. Oh there was a 15 foot fence. I'm gonna imagine two people doing it. Oh yeah. Now I Do it, boss.
Starting point is 00:23:45 How does it feel to remain the biggest node on the podcast? Oh, come on. If it arm here. It's the worst one. Damn it. No. You're a nerd. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:23:55 I'm a peasant. Yeah. A perv but also a virgin. What a combo. No. Sorry. How does it feel? Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Sorry. There's these H blocks. There was a 15 foot fence surrounding the entire prison and then each... It's a bit... 15 feet, it's pretty big. It's quite big. And then each H block was surrounded by another 5.5 meter high concrete wall and then both of those fences were topped with barbed wire.
Starting point is 00:24:22 All of the gates on the compound were made of solid steel and were electronically operated. And then there were armed British guards standing on top of lookout towers ready to shoot anyone who attempted to scale a wall to freedom. So it's not a great place. I don't want that job just being the guard. I mean, I like the fact that you're up high,
Starting point is 00:24:41 that'd be fun. Mm-hmm. Yeah, what a great view of a prison. I hope you got to climb some fun stairs or a ladder or something to get there. Yeah, there's a ladder. That'd be fun. I wouldn't mind that. Nice views of a prison.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And you wouldn't mind the shooting people. Yeah, that's the bit I don't like. What? Yeah. That's why you sign up. Because then I'd just be like, oh, I missed. And then I'd probably get fired. Yeah, yeah, they'd occupy certainly.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Because I missed. I didn't I miss anybody because you didn't fire the gun. You probably probably put your photo up in the tearo miss miss of the week. I don't miss the month. I'll tell you that. Because I can't miss it. So these H blocks were specifically how the how's those convicted of quite scheduled terrorist offences. So people that had done some terrorizing. Sure.
Starting point is 00:25:31 So it was big. Essentially, H H block was its own prison that was within a prison and then the whole thing was inside an army base. Wow. So to break out, you have to escape out of two prisons and then an army base. And because of this, it was considered an escape proof prison. Why don't you say shit like that? A statement that I love.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Me too, because it's like, Oh, now you fucked it. Now you've jinxed yourself. It's like the unsinkable ship. Oh, no, I asked Burg. It's every time they say it's proof. Yeah, and that's what it looks like. They said the unsinkable prison. Okay, well, that's what it looks like. It's at the unsinkable present.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Okay, well those look out. I was thinking. Well, that white thing I got, look at it started there with binoculars making sure that those icebergs don't make fools of us again. Yeah. And if you see one, you better shoot at it, Jess, or you'll be mischievous here.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I'll shoot a iceberg, the natural enemy of the human. Shoot. That's our main predator, yeah. I mean that's why I support global warming. Yeah, me too. Get rid of them. Slowly taking them down. Get rid of them. And also I don't like the cold weather. Let's make a little warmer. Yes. If we could just warm the globe somehow. Yes. I'd be all full. It could be 25 degrees every day where I am. Yeah. That would be great. Yeah. But I want the option to travel. So it has to be 25 degrees everywhere.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Yes, and also if summer couldn't be hotter. So we could just have global warming in winter. Yeah. My son is as possible. We could get Elon Musk on the line, we're giving him a ring. Yeah, I'm sure he's got ideas. Elon will solve it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Thanks, Elon. And then do a witty tweet about it. Yeah, yeah. He is smart and witty. Witty. Witty. So, they're in a prison within a prison within an army base. Not.
Starting point is 00:27:11 He's not supposed to be able to escape. But those in the IRA consider themselves to be prisoners of war and consider their duty to escape. They also thought, because they were prisoners of war, they should be treated as such and given special status that would mean they didn't have to wear uniforms or do prison work like any other prisoner. Like in Hogan's Heroes.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Yes, I honestly thought of that. But then after all, how long have they wearing that leather jacket for? That smell? How are you watching your jacket? And it's gonna go out of style eventually. How do you wash leather? Is that a dry clean thing or just wipe it down with a cloth?
Starting point is 00:27:47 The insides are gonna be a bit of wiffy. You gotta air it. Yeah, you gotta air it. But then it seems like it's winter all the time there. So you need your jacket, it's very hard. How do you air it if you need to wear it? If you need to wear it, I know. Yes, okay, new demands.
Starting point is 00:27:59 We all need at least two leather jackets because we're gonna get one. We need to rotate them when we need to clean our leather jacket. So that's demand number one. But also I like to be able to choose my jacket, so maybe we could take us all to the shops. We all get a... We all get a Chadstone.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Yeah, we get $100 voucher. Yeah. Yeah, you can get two leather jackets for $100. So I've already got one. Of course, there's another one. Yeah, and the back at one can be leather. Yeah. You're only wearing that when you're airing the other one.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yeah. You know, like one day awake or something. Why do you get something different? Like a blazer or a bummer jacket? A jean jacket. Yeah. Yeah. They could all get matching jean jackets.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Maze prison boys. Yeah. And girls. They could get a little iron on patches. That would be cool. That'd be fun really to customize it. Make it pairs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:42 And then you, and then like, I couldn't be like, Mata, that's my jacket. Yeah. No, it's not. That's why there's a lighting bolt on the then like, I couldn't be like, mate, so that's my jacket. Yeah, you're like, no, it's not. That's why there's a lighting bolt on the right arm. And you can be like, oh, my apologies. My lighting bolt is on my left arm. Oh, four. Has anybody seen my jacket?
Starting point is 00:28:52 And we'd be able to find it easily. Yes. Because we'd know what it looks like. A James jacket. With a lighting bolt on which I left. On which I left. Left arm. So, what they thought they shouldn't have to wear uniforms or do work.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And for a time of the 70s, they actually got this exemption, but it was revoked in 1976. This did not go down well, and in responsibly 300 Irish Republicans refused to wear their prison uniforms instead wearing blankets from their cells as clothes. Ooh! It was all they had. Like a snuggie. Yeah, they were wearing snuggies. Yeah, I'm not bothered that.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And imagine at night, they were tucking it under their uniforms. Yeah. And when this didn't work, they instituted what's called a dirty protest, where they covered the balls of their own cell with their shit. Good, yep. Uh-huh. That's my step as well. First step, ditch my clothes, just wearing a blanket.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Okay, you're not appreciating that. Shops, smearing shit everywhere. That's my go-to. Huh. So don't pick a fight with me, Mesa. I've drugs. She's very... She's very... I wasn't planning on earlier, but now I will. She's very quick to shit. Because I double-dogged her. I'm quick to shit. Jess has already always got one ready to go. What? I mean, he's a weird side note. But I took my dog for a walk today, and it took us 20 minutes to travel 800 meters, and he did two shits in that time.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Wow, was this a dirty protest? Must've been. What are you mad at me about? I took him for a freaking walk. I don't wanna go on this walk, well, this pavement. I'm gonna mess it up. I'm gonna take a shit right here at the front of the hospital. I've really, dude.
Starting point is 00:30:26 But then you, really? Your power, I assume you picked it up. Of course. That's the real power move. Because if the guard went in there and said, I don't care about this and just sort of wiped it off the wall. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:37 But they did, the conditions were horrific inside the prison. There was bugs and maggots and shit. And shit. On the walls, yeah, yeah. And so it's horrible for prisoners and guards alike. I mean mostly the prisoners that work. Probably worse than the guards probably got to go home
Starting point is 00:30:51 at some point. Yeah, but also you like, do you want to go to work if you know you're just going to deal with poo walls? Poo walls? It's a really good question. You know, I wouldn't want to go to work. I didn't sign up to work with those poo walls. Come in here, there's felt walls.
Starting point is 00:31:05 There's soundproof walls, you've got, oh, this is nice. You know, there's not shit everywhere. Yeah, I assume no one's ever sat on the studio wall. I don't know, for sure. If they have, they've, then someone has done a lovely job cleaning it up. Yes. If we were going to speculate who in this studio
Starting point is 00:31:20 would have done that. Ow. Probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably. Ow, probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably. Ow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's quite political. That's true. Oh, it would have been a statement for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:33 And obviously he got his own way because it's cleaned off the wall. We're very close to the toilet, so you know it's not an accident, you know. He said he is two in the think tank. Number two in the think tank. Smirred it in. Smirred it in, Smirred in, yeah. But Andy would have cleaned it up, because he's a nice boy.
Starting point is 00:31:47 So yeah, there you go. That's how they got their show to the pop test. Yeah, that's how they got it. Great show, by the way, I love it. You want to check it out? So great scientific show has to be by Alistair and Andy, which one of the thing, don't great pod. Anyway, the dirty protest, it's horrific conditions,
Starting point is 00:32:02 and the IRA prisoners, they're able to send messages to the IRA outside and they instructed them to murder their guards. What? Wow. How are they sending messages? They're smuggling the emails. Yeah, email.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Wow. You think that someone would read the emails before they sent them, like go through the outbox or something? But no, no, no, that was, that was, it was probably that era where you could just be like, no, I'm just, all I wanted to was raise these pigeons in the prison yard and it'd be no, that was probably that era where you could just be like, no, I'm just, all I wanted to do was raise these pigeons in the prison yard and it'd be like, that seems fine.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yeah, yeah. Well, that's, she's been signaling it was smoke for a few hours over there. And the pigeons would send the emails. Well, Trayn Pigeon. Tiny little computers. It's very cute. So, no, there would send these little messages, written in tiny, shorthand on tiny, tiny bits of paper, like cigarettes, like filter, size papers, and then somehow smuggle them out to the outside. Wow. And then, struct of the IRA, hey, I don't like my guard, can you take care of him? And according to you, I reached central that published a great article about this story, the child. I'll link to, of course, over the five-year period that these strikes took place within the prison,
Starting point is 00:33:05 19 prison officers were killed on the outside. So they're instructing the people on the outside to assassinate the guards. Holy shit! As well as for five years on and off having these dirty protests and not wearing the uniforms. Another reason this job is no good. Oh, awful. The inmates also protested with a hunger strike resulting in 10 deaths.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Whoa. Including the leader of the strike who would become very famous Bobby Sands. Yeah. During the strike, he was actually elected to the British Parliament, standing for a party called anti-H block. Remember, he's locked up in an H block.
Starting point is 00:33:41 So we got elected, but he couldn't serve. One, because he's in prison in two, because he died, but he's plighted and death attracted more attention from the media and from around the world and drove support for the IRA. So he was seen as a very central figure to the IRA in this time. And he can probably guess that all this stuff
Starting point is 00:34:01 led to a pretty frosty atmosphere between the prisoners and the guards. And they call the guards, screws. Oh, yeah. Not talking to you, screw. But that all slowly changed. Oh. It was decided that the prisoners would attempt
Starting point is 00:34:19 a daring escape. But they soon realized to do that, they would need more freedom and more intel about how the prison ran. What if you just bashed you way out? There's a door, bash! Oh, you're in the guard, now you literally like, like the Hulk. So I tried to stop me, bash!
Starting point is 00:34:37 Now the door, bash! Jess, you wouldn't even have to do that, you could just threaten you to do that. You'd be like, listen, you let me out, or else, I'm a bash here, I'm a bash, I'm a bash that door. I'll bash you. I'll do that. You could just threaten you to do that. You'd be like, listen, you let me out or else, I'm a basche here. I'm a basche, I'm a basche at door. I'll bash you. I'll bash that. I'll bash the gate. I'll bash everything. And then you think it's worth it and they would just open it up. Yeah, that sounds expensive. But if I let you out, I can close the door and the door won't be broken. Yeah. And I won't be bashed. Step this way. Bash. Oh, are you bashing me anyway? People don't satisfy because you'd really get yourself left to bash you way out.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Did anybody think about bashing their way out? Well, oh! I've got a slight story of bashing. We'll get to a bashing story. Alright! We did it. Well, they realize that they would need more intel about how the prison ran and more freedom to get away with any plot.
Starting point is 00:35:29 So, they decided to slowly, but surely, change their aggressive behaviour towards the guards and slowly win their favour, get the guards to let their guards down. But that's the whole job. Yeah, it's the whole thing. If you're not guarded as a guard, you're doing everything wrong. That's right. You're gonna get bashed. Well, let me.
Starting point is 00:35:49 BASH! Ha! Ow! Shit, I'm the cleaner! I was trying to clean up the shire in your toe. I'm sorry about that. But BASH! Oh, god!
Starting point is 00:36:00 Before my rhino was injured now, they're both injured. I think you've caulked it. Yeah, caulked ya. Give me a corky. What are they caulked the way out? Yeah, cork away. And then, you know, cork their way out to cork. No, yeah, thank you, yes.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Very good. In November 1982, the Republican prisoners presented themselves for work, something they had previously protested against. They said, oh, yeah, okay, we'll walk around here. And the jailers in the British government saw an opportunity for a propaganda win to be like, see, even the hardest IRA people are now working for us. So, they happily agreed. This was an important step in getting more access to the prison. They were suddenly assigned jobs and access was given to the kitchens, places like the concrete factory, the wood workshop and even vegetable gardens around the place.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And who was cleaning the pool and stuff? Was that also guards or? No, yeah, prisoners were allowed, yeah pool boys. Prisoners are great, yeah. Yeah, cool, cool, cool. What if you turned on the FoxTell' and it was just like the blue screen and you couldn't, like the channels, you couldn't. Oh, who would tune the Fox tellin'?
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah, who tunes the Fox tellin'? We call it a tech, which is also a prisoner. Yeah, nice. Oh, great, okay, yeah, cool. Oh, great. It's a poor boy, Fox tell boy, yeah. Gardening boy. And bartender?
Starting point is 00:37:19 Barboy. Barboy. Yeah. Dona might supply who, who, who, Dona boy. I don't know what you're saying. What about for any Don't know, boy. Oh, don't know, boy. Great. And what about for any bashing needs, I might have.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Oh, that was basher. Yeah, basher, basher, Bill. Basher. Bows, Bill, fuck! She brought the same side here. We're trying to butter up the card. Bashing Bill's got a bash, sorry. I want to make it very clear to anybody listening.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Obviously, you can't see the gestures I'm doing when I yell bash, but they're very flimsy punches. I don't know, I believed, you did a very powerful uppercut early on. I believe that the person you bash was flying into the air. Yeah, right. Over the horizon.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I believe. I believe. Yeah, great. Yeah, your guns are massive. Thank you. Yes, they are. Put them away. OK. So butterflies, you. Yes, they are. Put them away. Okay. So butterflies,
Starting point is 00:38:06 the leader of the mind. So before all this they had no idea about the layout of the prison. When transported around the jail, they were put into blacked out vans or made to wear head covering so they really couldn't take stock of their surroundings. Now they were actively looking for signs of weakness and ways they could escape. They got valuable intel from the guards who they started referring to by their first name instead of their last name or screw. Good morning John. Sorry what? He usually called me dickhead. He likes me. He really likes me. I'm getting through to him. I'm chained diary. One of the prisoners called me John today, which was nice, but also, my name is Chris. Go's home, tells his wife.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Hender got bashed. A bill, fuck. So some real swings in round events today. He also started chatting about football and, you know, social things. Yeah. Some of the guards were suspicious at first, but most thought they'd finally just broken the prisoners and they were happy. Okay. What did you think about Buffy today?
Starting point is 00:39:10 Yeah, God, he's really lost it. Did you catch Buffy today? No, I had to be an on call later on, if you missed it. It's good, it's good. It starts in about 15, if you want to go and check it out. I personally prefer Angel. Slowly, the prisoners were able to get little bits of information out of the guards about shift changes
Starting point is 00:39:28 and what days were busiest for them. Just imagine them, they were like, so have you ever break out of this prison? When would you do it? Is there any, I don't know, like weak points? What would you say? What would you say? What are the top five weak points?
Starting point is 00:39:42 Maybe you're right, I'm down for me. It seemed like inane chit chat, but the prisoners were slowly putting together all the information to form a bigger picture of the prison and how it ran. The guards also got more comfortable with the prisoners being closer to them and hanging around in places that were previously off limits. Like they might. Like the outside. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:01 It feels out there. It feels just two minutes and I'll come back. Just give me, just give me, yeah, yeah Yeah. Yeah. I'm just gonna have a smoke Just wanna stretch my legs a little bit. Oh, that's fine. You'll come back. Yeah, of course. I will it hey John It's me I'll be back for angel cuz I like angel the most yeah also it's Chris Nah, just kidding when I call it John. It's a big name. Great, great, great. We're besties. Bash.
Starting point is 00:40:27 John, why are you, Bill, why are you getting into the car of my car and driving it away? We're all wearing my car, belt. So they're just hanging out. And aerial photographs taken by the media were also smuggled into the prison to give them a better idea of the layout of the camp. Oh my god, we're stuck in here.
Starting point is 00:40:44 There's walls and everything. I don't know layout of the camp. Oh my God, we're stuck in here. There's walls and everything. I don't know. Oh, shit. Oh my God. She's gonna be harder than I thought. Maybe that original plan of bashing our way out wasn't so dumb after all. I love it, we'll hear that.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Oh, so that's why they call them age blocks. Yeah. I guess I thought they just had ABCD, EFG. Yeah, I thought it was an age block. I'm gonna write an epic sci-fi movie about these blocks. Tifitis. George Lucas. Good stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:11 He's in the prison. Oh, George Lucas is there. He was in there. Oh, Jesus. What an Irish and stuff. What are you learning? According to Iris, the Republican magazine published in 1993. The whole operation was a bit ram-shackle at first with men wanting to
Starting point is 00:41:25 escape and some just going for it on their own. Enter, build the basher. One man smuggled in a hammer. His plan was he blasted Springsteen's born to run on a record player as loud as it would go. Whilst one of the nice men of rock. Exactly. Baby, it was born to run. He blastered that whilst hammering or bashing, if you will, into the concrete wall, apparently oblivious to the fact that the whole prison could hear him bashing. Oh, honey. So that didn't end well. That was stopped.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Oh, that's silly. In 1983, it was realized that have to work together for any real chance of success and they set up an escape committee headed by Larry Marley who had formed for escaping from dozens of prisons. In fact, in 1978, he had nearly escaped May's prison while stressors of prison warden was captured before reaching the prison perimeter. Which now I say that I lied. So the real warden walked in. Nooed. Because he didn't have his uniform.
Starting point is 00:42:27 But I love that I've said that he nearly escaped, captured before reaching the prison perimeter. That's not nearly escaping. No. Well, he got through a couple of doors. He's as close as anyone else inside the perimeter of that moat. Yeah, that's right. Well, five years have gone by and he didn't want to spend months coming out of the plan for one or two people to escape. No, no, no. He wanted to bust out many people at once. Larry said the key is to think bigger than them.
Starting point is 00:42:56 We don't want to refine their system. We want to crush it. Okay. Because his worry was if two people get out, they'll go, oh, there's the weakness, we'll just stop that. Yeah. They can't do that anymore. But he was like, if we get shit loads of people out, we can also all go back to the IRA
Starting point is 00:43:12 and really help our campaign. But it's a big dream. They've said publicly, this is an escape proof prison. He's like, I don't want two people. I want dozens of people to go. Communicating with the IRA on the outside with secret messages smuggled in. H block was approved. H block seven I should say was approved for an escape attempt. It was run as a need to know operation and to protect the plan and the SQP's, many of them were
Starting point is 00:43:37 only told a certain section of the overall plan. That way it would be harder for someone to rat on the attempt. And it was drilled into them. If you slip up or if you're a fan out telling anyone that doesn't need to know the thing that you've been told, you won't be allowed to escape with us. We'll leave you behind. First of all, a fight club. Have a great time. Have a great time. Yes, great.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Just do your best. Enjoy yourself. That's right. We'll just roll that friendship. Also, no shirts and no shoes. Yeah. Okay. But no one wants to be left behind. Do you vest? Enjoy yourself, that's right. Let's just, we'll have that friendship. Also, no shoes, no shoes. Yeah, okay. But no one wants to be left behind,
Starting point is 00:44:09 so everyone's like scared into silence, because they're like, Oh, shit, I wanna get on board. Because I think, I mean, if I could put myself in their shoes, I reckon I would want to be one of the ones who got out. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Do you know what I mean? Oh yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think I'd wanna stay in. That sounds like something a rat would say. No. I'm not. Shut up, bash.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Oh. Oh. So you get bashed, call me a rat. I'm a little mess. Oh, bash out. I'm very violent, mouse. So Sunday September 25th, 5. 5. 5. Fifth I was going to say, but then I 25, 5.5. 5.5. 5, that was going to save it then I won it for 5.
Starting point is 00:44:47 1983, it was chosen as the day for the attempt. Months of planning, taking little notes, interrogating guards without the knowing is led to this day. Wow. The chose Sunday was the one day when visitors weren't allowed and less work was performed by prisoners, no football or other recreational activities were played, and because of this, less staff were required for supervision. What was the date again, sorry?
Starting point is 00:45:13 September 25, 1983. For a second, I got the 83, and I got the 25, and I was thinking December, and I was like, why haven't you mentioned it's Christmas day? LAUGHTER None of the real ones. September go.
Starting point is 00:45:27 We all got files in our plum puddings. We saw those bars off. Right, gotcha. So there's less cards on Sundays in the age of four. I got this sanity voucher for Christmas. If I could just go out and spend it out of sanity, you're going to get an album of some sort. Who are you going to get? But no more Bruce Springsteen.
Starting point is 00:45:44 I'm sick of you blasting him while you're hammer at the wall. He's the best music to bash to I said too much. Maybe I was bashed to run I'm gonna get the song escape the pinnacle of a song Great track was probably out by then It's a sad couple in that song, you know, yeah tragic. I was tired of my lady We'd been together too long. Ugh, yuck. Like a worn out recording of your favorite song.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Which is... Escape the pinnacle. Exactly, yeah. And also you can use as the little umbrellas that we've smung at then. Okay. Love a pinnacle, other. So less guards on a Sunday on the edge block,
Starting point is 00:46:23 but there were still 24 guards on Judy inside this block. 16 of them, with four in each Sunday in the H block, but there were still 24 guards on duty inside this block. 16 of them, with four in each wing of the H block, were detailed to directly supervise prisoners on their wings, and six officers were deployed to fix posts on or around the circle. Now the circle was the name for the area across the middle of the shape of the H, the little barbit in the middle. I would call it the barbit. But in both the prisoners would have got their
Starting point is 00:46:49 hopes up as we'd probably be like, let's get some of the barbit. Yeah, let's get a bit of the barbit. Well, the barbit controlled movement around the block. This was sort of a control center with computer screens and intercom to the outside world. It was essentially the control center. Right. Most of the staff were regulars on the block, but one guy had come back after a few months away and was startled by the change in relationship between prisoners and guards, and couldn't believe that they were all
Starting point is 00:47:15 using each other's first names. He was actually alarmed by this, but was told the attitude and vibe had changed and everything was fine. Hi, man, we're a chill prison now. We're cool now. You've been away some things have changed. I know that can be a bit was fine. Hey man, we're at chill prison now. We're cool now. You've been away some things have changed. I know that can be a bit weird for you,
Starting point is 00:47:29 man, but you're just gonna get on board. I mean, I was here three months ago and they were throwing shit at my face and now they're high-fiving me. Yeah, just relax. What would you prefer? A high-five or shit in your face? I'd say be grateful, okay?
Starting point is 00:47:43 We've done some good work here. We turned them all around. Okay. We're in three months. Yeah, we have been in the dick. We're going to be definitely honest. Welcome back. He's your cake. But honestly, we've been in a bit of a dick. Well, I've spent three months figuring out ways I could get back to the prisons with how you shit at me. And now I'm going to look at dick when I pull a prank on them. I mean, poo in this bucket for three months. Three, I've got 12 weeks of shoes. Ready to go.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Ready to go. What I'm gonna do with it? Now I'm getting high fives. Jesus. I suppose I could smear some poo on my hands, but high fives. That'll give me every, give everyone a poo-y high fives.
Starting point is 00:48:18 But then I have poo on my hands. Worth it. Should be noted that within the age, none of the guards carried firearms. So the only weapons they had were batons of sorts. Okay. Basically, I think the idea is that if there's no guns in there, the prisoners can't get access to it.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Yeah, sure, that makes sense. But I'd want a bazooka as a guard or a prisoner. Um, both. Or to bash my way. Or in? So you're bashing the wall with the bazooka. Not shooting, it was bashing your whole. I don't want to be the Hulk and just smash shit.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Some sort of she Hulk? Am I angry? Hmm, what's going on with me? Well, my way to break through. Yeah, I think I'm a little bit mad. Trying to bash some stuff. They just need to go to one of those rooms where they give you a baseball bat and a bunch of plates and you can just bash it.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I'm going to go there. That does seem fun. I'm going to work some stuff out. Dave, too, go on. I'm going to play some mini-gold. Okay. So, the guards are no guns, but an integral part of the mission was to get the guards to surrender immediately and quietly without alerting the rest of the
Starting point is 00:49:29 prison. And to do this, it was decided that the prisoners would need guns. So six hand guns were somehow smuggled into the prison. And as of 2008, 25 years later, when a documentary was made on this escape, it still has never been revealed how the IRA managed to get six handguns into a secure prison. But now they were armed and the guards weren't. Oh, boy. Wow. But you have good.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Sort of tips that you know, slightly in your favor. Could we figure it out? I think if we, if we, the brain trust, I think we could probably figure it out. Yeah, we could do it. We could do it. We could do it. We could do it. We could do it. We could do it. We could do it. We could do it. We could do it.
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Starting point is 00:52:14 qualified students, including the GI Bill. Now is the time mycomputercareer.edu. So they've got guns. Five of the prisoners involved in the plot were Brendan Bick, McFarlane. So I was wondering when we're going to get to the colorful characters. Oh, yeah. So Bick, B.I.K., McFarlane. Yeah. Brendan Mead.
Starting point is 00:52:35 A couple of Brendan's. Bobby Story. Jerry Kelly. Yep. And Tony McAllister. Oh, these are some good names. And according to good names. And according to the Belfast telegraph each was serving a long sentence for serious terrorist offenses. McFarlane, Mead and McAllister were serving life sentences for murder.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Kelly was serving two life sentences for causing explosions in London, resulting in serious injury to approximately 200 innocent people, and story was serving 18 years for possessing firearms and ammunition. So they're not great, are they? They've all been around the world. They probably just let him keep him in the prison. Yeah. Why the hell they got him in?
Starting point is 00:53:14 They forgot to pat him down. I mean, you can't pat him all down. Oh, that's true. How can he be respected too? It's work. You'd be constantly patting. Just all day. They then wondered how they could possibly get out of the prison once they'd taken the block. You'd be constantly patting. Just all day.
Starting point is 00:53:25 They then wondered how they could possibly get out of the prison once they'd taken the block. That's the next. Next worry. It was noted that a food delivery truck drove around the prison several times per day and was rarely if ever searched. Over time the guards on the checkpoints had let down their guard a little bit and started letting in the truck driver based on sight alone. They knew him well.
Starting point is 00:53:46 They trusted him, you know. When he pulled up at the gate, they'd be like, hey, how's your morning? That I've catch up letting him in. Don't worry, they're gonna search the truck. They know him. It's a good guy. The prisoners hoped that if they could take the prison area,
Starting point is 00:54:01 they could change into guard uniforms, and then get to the truck, then they'd be able to drive out the front door without the alarm ever being erased. Okay. Okay. So at 230 in the afternoon, the men put their plan into action. Bick McFarlane had already noted the names of all the officers in the block. The prisoners needed 12 officers uniforms to pull off this escape attempt
Starting point is 00:54:25 and needed to match the prisoner with the officer who's close, they would steal. So he's size everyone up and said, he's about a small, we got a medium here, Greg's got a lunch. Wow. Yeah, you don't want to mess that up, you don't want to be.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Nobody's swimming up. He could also do a little prank and be like, oh, so match up the smallest guard with the biggest presumably. Yeah. Bit of fun. Yeah, tiny. Bit of fun.
Starting point is 00:54:50 He can't even get his shirt done up. Lowell. And you've got to remember that this guard is a winter and this guard is an autumn and the colors are going out. Yeah, yeah. You know. I'm assuming the guards are all wearing uniforms like that are the same but different colors
Starting point is 00:55:05 to match their palettes. Right, yeah, they color wheels. Yeah, different eyes and hair. Yeah, come put me in brown. Oh, yeah. Look, that is a crime. Greens and blues over here, thank you very much. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Dave, you can obviously pull off any color. Yes, even a shirt with bananas on us. Yeah, I don't know how he does it, but he does. Rainbow uniform for me. Yeah. Really stand out in that crowd. So the aforementioned five men, Bick McFarlane, Brendan Meade, Bobby Story, Jerry Kelly, and Tony McHallister walked into the circle,
Starting point is 00:55:36 which is the shoulder room, under the pretext of doing their jobs around the prison. McFarlane went out to the bins as he normally did. He was the bin boy. The others placed themselves within line of sight of each other and in positions that enabled them to shadow each member of staff on duty in the circle. So they're watching everyone very closely. The code word for the beginning of the operation was bumper, which was the name of the machine
Starting point is 00:56:03 used to polish the floors. Oh, yeah. So once the prisoners heard McFarlane shouting, bumper, the attempt was on. That also the prison guards would be like, why is the yelling bumper? I'll give you a yell, escape attempt. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Escape attempt. It's go time, bitches. They'd be like, what? Once this was shouted, a 90 second countdown began, beginning with the group silently capturing four officers who were gathered in one room. They decided to use aggressive language and extreme verbal aggression to get the prison officers to do what they wanted.
Starting point is 00:56:36 But they were worried that they had to be forceful, but quiet, that whispering would be less threatening than intended. So they actually practiced what they were gonna say. Oh my God, that's kind of cute. Yeah, it's, yeah. They're really scripted. Hey, brushing.
Starting point is 00:56:50 So they're gonna go, we don't wanna have to hurt you but we wit line. What is that? I mean, we don't wanna have to hurt you, but do you get on the ground? Yeah. That'd be really good for me. That'd be good for all of us,
Starting point is 00:57:04 because then you don't have to get hurt, but take off your clothes, please. I'm gonna give you two options. You can either let us tie you up or bash. We're gonna bash you. I can bash. Sorry, Sierra, I can't hear you. Bash, you're gonna bash you.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Who's gonna bash? Who's got cash? No, no cash, bash. Unfortunately, they found the only older guard with terrible hearing. What? Look, I'm gonna bash it. Oh, I never on that.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yeah, everyone, you heard it now. God. They also decided they would only use violence if absolutely necessary. As they wanted to escape, they wanted the escape to be portrayed positively in the media. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Then when the IRA to look needlessly violent. These are people who are in prison because of violence. Yes, but they wanted it to be like, we escaped without hurting any innocent people. Even though previously we've heard a lot of innocent people. Hey, it's a new day. What's right? So Bobby Story and...
Starting point is 00:57:58 Living, we're just living our truth. Yeah, I respect that. Bobby Story entered the room with four prison officers. He and another prisoner then produced the guns and pointed them at the heads of the officers Yeah, I respect that. Yeah. Bobby's story into the room with four prison officers. He and another prisoner then produced the guns and pointed them at the heads of the officers and quietly demanded that they get on the ground. He also did the badass move of cocking his gun to prove it was real and not just a replica. Well, that's good.
Starting point is 00:58:19 So it was like, get on the ground. Chick. Sorry, did you just say chick? What does that mean? If you call me chick, am I a chick? My name is Chris. Why can't anybody remember my name? From then on, it was a chain reaction. The whole operation was done by a line of sight and signalling. So as soon as one officer was taken down, the next prisoner stepped up and took the next officer. Through signalling each other via several lookouts placed around the prison, they were able to quickly and very quietly take most guards out of action one after the other.
Starting point is 00:58:57 And do it extremely silently. The hardest and yet most important part of the job though was to take care of the officer in the circle, the control room that connected the block to the greater prison outside. One slip up there and they could alert the authorities and the escape attempt would be instantly over. And because they had an intercom, a panic button, a radio and a telephone. Now in theory, the circle should have been very secure. Oh dear. Oh no. We're starting any sentence with in theory and in practice it was. Yeah. They didn't get nowhere.
Starting point is 00:59:31 So that is the end. It was supposed to be protected by a solid bulletproof door fitted with a high security lock, which was then further protected by a metal grill gate immediately outside the door. OK. But it was protected by Marshm grill gate immediately outside the door. Okay. But it was protected by Marshmallow. It was in some Marshmallow.
Starting point is 00:59:49 And they just ate their way through? Yep. I'm numb now. It took six hours. I'm worth it. But because of a defect in the design of the H-blocks, there was no effective ventilation in these communication rooms. And it was not uncommon for the officers working in them to open the solid door and then rely on the open grill gate to secure the room,
Starting point is 01:00:10 get in a bit of fresh air. This design fault was identified to the appropriate headquarters department shortly after the blocks were opened in the mid-1970s, but nothing was done to correct the problem. That's just typical. So typical, it's like when you tell the landlord that your hot tap doesn't turn on or off without being tightened by an Allen key first and they take several months to still not do anything. For example off the top of my head. Yeah yeah. And then you escape from prison and they're like oh no. Should have done something about that. Got such a vivid imagination.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Thank you. That felt so real. Yeah, yeah. That would be frustrating for someone I don't know. Yeah, but surely it can't be. Surely not. Who would put that with that? An idiot, probably. Like a woose.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Big old dumb dumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Should I say stand up for yourself? Nah, nah, nah, nah. I got a dirty strike by all of you. Okay. Honestly, if you want something done, smash it all over my ass.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Shit on the wall. That Allen key will be tightened by close of business. Okay. And the shit? Shit. Well, I mean, they've got hot water to clean it up. Okay. It's great, it's great system.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I'm listening. Yeah, you want your rent dropped? I mean, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Hypothetically, shit on your wall. I went and planned. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically. Yeah had already asked him, working half a shift today, and then when he said, no, I'm here all day, Bick had been like, ah fuck. Yeah, we're screwed. Fuck. But luck will let you guard down at all, Grizzly. You're going to do that today. You know, going to keep this door open, that'd be really good for me.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I'm going to turn you back at any point. Grizzly. Well, luck was also slightly on this side because the big door was open for airflow, and Can I turn you back at any point? Squizzly, yeah. Okay. Well, luck was also slightly on this side because the big door was open for airflow and just the grill door was used. Essentially, it looked like a classic bars and a prison cell. Yeah. Many, you could easily walk up to it and point a gun through the bars at the person on the other side.
Starting point is 01:02:20 And that is exactly what Jerry Kelly did. He walked up to the bars and pointed a gun at Grizzly Adams and said, don't fucking move. Get on the ground. This is an IRA operation. If you move, I'll shoot. If you do what I tell you, you won't be hurt. If anybody phones here, you asking what the problem is, you then take 30 seconds and whatever the problem is, you go back to him and say look that's been sorted
Starting point is 01:02:47 Okay Adam's then said what if they don't believe me to which Kelly responded you make them believe you okay now We're gonna act under pressure. It's fuck Would you look at it's all sort of turns out. I hadn't even plugged the kettle in But now it's all good so And now we're on a space station. Yeah. What's happening here? You got too deep into the yes end.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Is everything okay over there? Yes, and I've got the zoo. Or space jump. I've got a beautiful 221. Okay, it sounds like things are really bad over there. Yes And I require assistance. I'm gonna need an occupation So he this is actually Kelly said you make them believe you that's what he recalled in a documentary 25 years later So I'm not sure if he's just making himself seem more bad. He's still alive. Jerry Kelly's still alive.
Starting point is 01:03:46 And people from Northern Ireland would definitely know this guy, which we'll talk about again. But all seemed other than control until a prison guard unexpectedly came out of the ladies toilets and distracted Kelly standing there with a gun. Were they a female prison guard? I think it was a man and I have no idea. No one ever addressed why they're in the toilet. At Thing-Tat, note, so specific,
Starting point is 01:04:08 came out of the ladies toilets. Yeah, I guess maybe they were. They had the guns on the... They were prepared for the men's toilets because all the guards were men, but maybe they were like, come on. Surely no one's using the ladies. That'd be rude.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Probably cleaner in there. Yeah, but it's not. Bit of privacy. It was doing number two. Yeah, yeah. Was that guy collecting you shit in a bucket? Yeah, he's a nervous pooper. No, there's no women in this prison. Well, do it in there. No, no, no, perfect So this guard came to come so I don't know he was overpowered quick quite quickly But Adam's grizzly the one that might cause trouble. He was on the floor of the circle He noticed that Kelly who was holding the gun was distracted for a second
Starting point is 01:04:44 Oh, dear. And he went for either an alarm or his night stick. It's not, not clear. Kelly responded by quickly firing two bullets. Ah. First one missed, but the other hit Adams, and he collapsed with a bullet to the head. Oh, no. Spoiler alert, so you don't hate this.
Starting point is 01:05:01 He survives. Okay. But he got shot. In the head. In fact, despite being shot above the eye, 30 seconds later, he gained consciousness and Kelly asked him, why'd you do that? And Adam's responded, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:15 You've destroyed the part of my brain that had my memory in it, so I don't remember anything. You shut me right through the memory, I don't know why. Who are you? And why are we at the zoo? Just above the eye and he survived. He survived, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:26 That's incredible. That's not easy. Now lucky. Maybe it's a tiny little gun. Oh, that makes sense. Was it a tiny little gun? Is that what you failed to make? Well, maybe.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Well, it was a little handgun. Importantly for the prisoners, maybe this makes sense that it's smoke was no one outside the block heard the shots. Oh, wow. That was why there was instantly going to be over. Holy shit. But the cover's not blown. So we shot him and then they've had this baffling conversation
Starting point is 01:05:49 of why'd you do that and he went, I don't know. I don't know. Why'd you shoot me mate? It's like, yeah, when you're trying to reason with a toddler, why'd you do that? I don't know. I'm three. I'm disappointed. I'm not mad, but I'm disappointed. Why? I'm not bleeding from the head. What a day I'm having. Tell? I'm not bleeding from the head. It's a split. What a day I'm having. Tell you what. So they're taking the block with precision in under 20 minutes. It's now under their complete control.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Wow. Well, you know, when you put off a job for a really long time and then you do it finally. And takes no time at all. You know, I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been
Starting point is 01:06:24 shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been shit- I've been I was gonna do this 20 years ago. Yeah, you leave sheets in a washing basket. They're clean, but you can't be fucked folding them. Then you're doing it, takes five minutes. That's what they would have been thinking. They would have been like, oh, this was easy. You know what? Shoot a man in the head. She's done this ages ago. Oh, we have silly doffes.
Starting point is 01:06:37 And you know what, the next time I'm in prison for 20 years, I'm gonna do the exact same thing. Yeah. What am I like? Yeah, it gets the E-R-I-T, you know. All right. Here we go. But I get into action.
Starting point is 01:06:48 So all the officers who were captured were then brought into the same room with a hand's tied behind their backs and pillowcases placed on their heads to hide the identities of their captors. And so they looked like little ghosts. Yeah. Woo.
Starting point is 01:07:01 12 of the guards were stripped and the prisoners put on their uniforms. Did they leave their undies on? I think they did. Give them a little bit. Yeah, but you're gonna have authentic pretty and got underpriced. Gotta get into character.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Yeah. So they give them their clothes. No, but I think they left them there in their boxes. Oh, that's a bit embarrassing, isn't it? Yeah. Feel a bit self-conscious about my body or whatever, look at me. Oh, I'm looking at it.
Starting point is 01:07:25 I'm looking at me. Except that one guy who's like, oh no, don't take my clothes. Yeah, don't. Oh, do it. I'm working at my ages. I'm just, yeah. Roll me over so you can see my abs. It's worth it. They're very impressive. They're really good. Then the prisoners were then reticatement saying, it's funny because now the prisoners
Starting point is 01:07:46 are the guards. Anyway, the guards were a read a statement saying, this is an IRA operation. We're not here for revenge or to punish you over the hunger strikes, but if you interfere with the escape, you will be dealt with swiftly. The next stage of the plan was to commandeer the food truck driven by David McLaughlin. Oh, McLaughlin. Oh, sorry. Oh, I came out of it.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Food truck. It's been getting very Irish in here, let me tell you. Well, he arrived on time half an hour later and was taken at gunpoint and Bobby Story said to him, this block is now in the hands of the IRA. All screws who were badder or what is a safe, one who didn't was shot in the head. We will shoot anyone who endangers our plan to escape, including you. Not surprisingly, McLaughlin, co-operators.
Starting point is 01:08:37 And we're taking all your tacos. Yeah. It's a taco truck. Yeah, oh my God. Well, the prison was then loaded into the back of the truck, presumably with all the tacos. Guess how many prisons were loaded in the back? Oh.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Eight, 400. Someway between eight and 400. You're right. Nice. 37. Nailed it here. This is an escape proof prison, and they just loaded 37 prisons into the back of the truck.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Jerry Kelly, who's the one who'd already shot someone, crawled into the foot well of the truck and he held his gun on the driver McLaughlin, who they needed to get through the front gate. Remember, his face is recognized by the people. Kelly, so he's crouching down out of sight, but the gun is trained on the head of McLaughlin. He asked McLaughlin how much he got paid and he answered, not fucking enough. Yeah, it's fair. Which is pretty quick.
Starting point is 01:09:30 But what was not having a good day? No. Seconds ago, he was about to, you know, have a knockoff taco. Yeah. So he knows they always order too many. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I love tacos in the 80s and in... No, no, no, no, for sure, they love. There's a big taco renaissance at the time. Yeah, that... No, I'm not sure. They love.
Starting point is 01:09:45 There's a big taco renaissance at the time. A taco is from Ireland? I believe so. I've never known when they're from. I love them. I love Irish food. I love Irish food. I love Irish culture. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Bono. I love bono. Bono loves a baritone. Yes. Is that also Irish food? Yeah, I believe so, yeah. My sense. Incredible. My sense if you love them. Yeah. So the Drove for the Control Room of the Main Gate, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that.
Starting point is 01:10:26 I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that.
Starting point is 01:10:33 I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that.
Starting point is 01:10:41 I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that. They told a guard to answer it and with two guns pointed at his head. One's not enough. They said answer the phone if you say a wrong word. It will be your last word. Which would have been cooler if they said last. But it doesn't actually say word to us.
Starting point is 01:10:55 If you say the wrong word it will be your last word. But have they given him a list of right and wrong words? How does he know what's wrong? Good question. That's a great question. What's he's like, what's what am I supposed to say then? Wuzel was all. Yeah. If I say Wuzel was all, is that wrong? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Will that be my last word? The phone's been ringing for six minutes. We were just waiting. Fine, all right. These are a list of banned words and these are a list of appropriate words. He answered, apparently an alarm lab, hidden under a TV in the room had been tripped. So one of the guards went on the floor, had hit a silent secret alarm. The man who answered the phone in the tally lodge said, oh, everything's fine, and the man
Starting point is 01:11:38 gate told him, I'll just reset it. To which he responded, oh, how do you do that? Now the answer, which he should have known and did know, is just to unpress the button. It's something, it's like a button that goes in and if you take it out, it turns it off. But he was trying to alert them that something was wrong. Yeah. Like, this senior guard should definitely know what to do.
Starting point is 01:11:57 But the main gate didn't pick this up and told him, just press it, stop fucking around, and then hung up on him. He's like, thanks a lot. Great, wonderful, thank you so much. So the plan was okay to keep going. Although the plan had been delayed and they had arrived at the lodge later than intended, that accidentally taken it during a shift change, so more and more officers began to arrive for work, each entering and then immediately being taken hostage. Right, no.
Starting point is 01:12:26 So soon, there was 24 officers being held by 12 prisoners. So they've got twice as many people as they thought they were gonna have to worry about. The officers, and it was bringing your kids to work. Yeah, off a fuck, say. And bringing grandparents to work. Oh, Jesus Christ. Which is weird, they keep doing that in a workplace.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Like it's cute at Kinder, but like at a workplace, why am I bringing my elderly grandparents here? And then Bono drops in for an impromptu concert. And you ring Bono to work there. I love Bono, I'm Irish, I love Bono. I have the nicest men in rock. But the only thing they could stop, you know, to bring both sides together was Bono.
Starting point is 01:13:07 But sadly he was shot that day. I'm so sorry. So it's terrible to find out this way. No, it's by the album Zuropa. If that indeed is an album, I don't really know. Which was the album that we all had on our, it just all had a clear downloaded on our broadcast phones. Yeah. Oh, is it songs of innocence? It's all songs of innocence and songs of experience.
Starting point is 01:13:31 I don't know that. I don't know. Because it was on your phone, probably still is. Yeah, it is. Because you know why it is? Because my girlfriend gets in the car the other day. And why were listening to you, too? Because the phone had connected automatically
Starting point is 01:13:44 to the Bluetooth mic, and displayed the first song that was on there. Because these days, everything's on Spotify. The only thing actually downloaded to the phone is fucking you too. Yeah, makes sense. Great band, Acton Baby. So more, there's 24 offices, 12 prisoners. The office has suddenly realized,
Starting point is 01:14:07 we've got the upper hand here. So they began to fight back and a bit of a brawl erupted in the telelock. Uh oh. Uh oh, it's time, it's bashers time to shine. There's a lot of bashing on it. Let me in there. Bash.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I want to throw someone through a window. Bash. You know, there's always a moment in one of these kind of prison break, waste kind of movies where the specialist gets to jump in. Yeah. Everybody in the audience would be like, yeah, time for Bashabill. Fuck yeah. So, fire breaks out.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Meanwhile, two officers realize what's going on. They manage to wedge their cars in the gate, blocking the truck from escaping. Oh. So the remaining prisoners who'd been waiting patiently in the gate blocking the truck from escaping. So the remaining prisoners who'd been waiting patiently in the back of the truck presumably need deep in tacos. They got out and joined the fight and now there was a proper fight happening out in the open. During this brawl five officers were stabbed. Oh my god. What guns? Yeah. Bayonets. Oh, okay. Han comes on a mini bayonet. We got Swiss arm enough duct tape to the top.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Sadly, one of the officers had a heart attack and later died. Oh, shit. According to Ari's central, a number of escapees were later tried for his murder, but are eventually acquitted after the judge concluded it could not be proved that the stabbing caused the heart attack, which killed him. Wow. Even though it's kind of like, was he going to have a heart attack without
Starting point is 01:15:28 the stabbing? Yeah. But they didn't get charged. So the fight was in full view of an armed British guard up in a tower. But because most of the people fighting were dressed in prison guard uniforms, he didn't know who to shoot at. Of course. Because he's been trying to aim for the underpants. And they've got in the prison kind of. Exactly. He's like, well, CK, Calvin Klein, thank God we signed that deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Sponsorship at its finest. In fact, the guard actually letter revealed, he thought it was a staff and the brawl. Oh, he just thought the staff would just have a brawl. Because there are 36 people in guard uniforms punching on. That would be confusing. A few other prisoners and he's like, what is going? I don't know what's happening. Four prisoners attacked one of the officers and hijacked his car, which they drove towards
Starting point is 01:16:16 the external gate. They crashed into another car near the gate and then abandoned it. Two escaped through the gate. One was captured exiting the car and another was captured after being chased down by a soldier. So suddenly it's absolute pandemonium. Wow. Some started shooting at the officers to hold them back to allow time for the rest to escape. One officer was shot in the leg as he chased the prisoners. The prisoner who fired the shot was captured after being shot himself
Starting point is 01:16:40 and by actual gardener tower. And another prisoner was captured after falling. The other prisoners escaped over the fence and by 4.18 pm, the main gate was closed and the prison secured. After 35 prisoners had breached the prison perimeter. The escape was the biggest in British history and the biggest in Europe since World War II,
Starting point is 01:17:03 35 people having escaped the escape proof prison. Yeah, insane. Stop saying, oh, I can't possibly, oh, you can't get out. That just makes people want to try. Totally. They said, this is a prison we've built where an absolute maximum of 40 people could escape. Then they'd be right. Totally.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Totally. Headlined tomorrow, Margaret Thatcher, correct. Yeah. That's exactly what it would have been. You're right. Idiots. I mean, that would have been the headline regardless, I think. They like it for that sort of thing. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, Nudes on page three for some reason. So far so good, but now they're out. What do they do? Yeah Yeah where do you go? Because remember they're sort of in the middle of the army base area well an IRA convoy was meant to meet them. Oh, but due to. Well due to an error in timing someone cocked up the time they got out there and no one was there to meet them. So they either ran for it or they hijacked cars. They thought they were supposed to pick them up for a N. Yeah, oh, classic.
Starting point is 01:18:09 We should have used 24 hour time. I'm fucking hell. That's why I always say always use 24 hours. Well, when Bobby said 16, 100 hours, I was like, that's not such thing as 16 o'clock. Idiot. It's a fucking idiot. But you don't want to question a man with a gun. No, God no. Authorities alsoapt into action because they quickly realized that they'd been in an escape. Cordans and vehicle checkpoints were set up on all roads leading from the prison area by 4.25 pm, which is seven minutes later. Shit. Story, McFarlane and Kelly, who are three of our main guys guys split into three separate groups. One of the groups, four escaped prisoners led by a Robert's story. They were quickly found hiding in the water under a bank of the
Starting point is 01:18:53 river Lagen about half a mile from the prison. They were detained without incident and returned back to the age block. Story recalled in the documentary that when he was captured and returned to the prison, it's suddenly sunken what they've done. They escaped. Even if only for a few minutes, he felt this massive sense of view for it. He was not a man. He was about to say that he was really upset, but he was like, oh, I was the highest I've ever felt in my life.
Starting point is 01:19:20 That's sad. He's like, he's like, he's like, fuck you. He's like, what are you? I'm going to go, are we going to do? We go kids. Yeah, they're like, oh, this was the best day of your life. Bloody hell. When you were rounded up and put back in prison.
Starting point is 01:19:34 It was a massive statement, even to only get out for four minutes. It was a real PR disaster for Margaret Thatcher over in England who'd been talking tough against the IRO. So she was very, very unhappy. 19 of the 38 presents who left 8.7 were recaptured within 24 hours or three of them didn't get out at all. And most of them were returned
Starting point is 01:19:55 to their original cells in the block. Jerry, don't even get a change of scenery. Yes. Very depressing. Give me a new room at least. Oh god, so the other side for some, I want to look at a different window. Different view.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Jerry, you stand in the fucking car park for 10 years. What are you going to do to get a lotion view? Oh, I know we're not near the ocean. Are they near ocean? I don't think so. I look up on a map, I don't think that. Maybe a lock. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Neither river. Jerry Kelly and his crew met it to a known nationalist leaning yeah. Neither river. Jerry Kelly in his group met it to a known nationalist leaning housing estate in Logan. 14 miles from Logan. It's great isn't it? 14 miles from Mays where they hit out for two weeks under the floorboards of a house in a place that usually was used to hide weapons.
Starting point is 01:20:41 It was so small that you couldn't even turn over. They lay and listened to radio updates on a headphone only leaving to quote, do number two's he said in the documentary. So you'd piss next year friends but you would shit next time. How close are you? I mean you're your piss friends. But you not shit about it. Yeah, yeah. Like you'll smear the walls. Pissed out. You'll smear the walls of a prison, but you won't smear the walls underneath you of a floor wall. Would you consider me a piss pal?
Starting point is 01:21:11 Yeah, thank you. Wait for me. Sure, yeah, yeah. Well, that felt a bit more forced over there, but okay. No, Jess, I would. Sorry, I hesitated for a moment, but I made it. I'm a piss-neer-you-jess. Thank you. It piss near you, Jess. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:21:26 It's all I want. The other group led by, I think we've got a good finale for the podcast, or set. Hands in and we'll all piss. Piss, piss, piss. The other group led by McFarlane drove their hijack car to a nearby family home where they hid the car in the garage and took the family hostage.
Starting point is 01:21:47 When they decided it was time to leave, he had the whole family swear on a Bible that they wouldn't call the police for 72 hours. OK. I'm not sure if they ever did. Give us a head start. But then they walked over fields at night before finally getting to the safety of the IRA stronghold of South Amar. Both Kelly and McFarlane ended up spending months living in the Republic of Ireland, then in January 1984 they flew to mainland Europe using false passports.
Starting point is 01:22:16 They had the opportunity of living relatively normal lives and starting fresh, but they chose to continue their work with the IRA and lived in the Netherlands together. but they chose to continue their work with the IRA and lived in the Netherlands together. They were arrested in 1986 and at the time of their arrest had cash in several currencies, maps and fake passports and keys to a storage container that had 14 rifles and 100,000 rounds of ammunition. Whoa! They were extradited back to Northern Ireland and soon found themselves back in the old age blog. But they've been free for three years. Yeah, they did pretty well, I guess. If that's how you want to measure success.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Just having a storage unit filled with ammunition. Yeah, I'm rather counted in downloads to my podcast. Yeah, me too. But I guess you get a skate from a prison. Yeah, that's fine, I guess. This is pretty podcast, I guess that's what you had. Yeah, yeah, it's probably true. Well, get some, get some likes on your Instagram guys. Yeah, get that kind of validation.
Starting point is 01:23:10 So they're back in the age book, but this three years later on, the second of July 1989, Jerry Kelly was released in line with the extradition conditions agreed on with the Dutch authorities. This is the guy that shot Grizzly Adams in the ring the escape. So he was proled. He went on to become a politician and Grizzly Adams in the history of the escape. So he was paroled. He went on to become a politician and played a big part in the Northern Ireland peace process negotiations that led to the Good Friday agreement in April 1998 that ended the
Starting point is 01:23:34 troubles. And then he went on to be a junior minister in the Northern Ireland government. Oh wow. So yeah, he really turned it around. He go. Some of the others made it to America where at at least one of them was extra-dited back, but others have since been given pardons. So some got away.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Never came back. Two SQP's, Jared Fryers and Shamest Campbell were never accounted for or heard from since the escape. Did they get away or did they die? Trying. Yeah. Wow. No 50 cents done.
Starting point is 01:24:09 DB Cooper. Oh. How they doing Cooper? I assume so. You're probably the big Cooper. It's the only possible explanation. So I thought. I should know there was also awful for the prison guards,
Starting point is 01:24:20 as well as the two who were shot and survived. Fort was stabbed. And around 39 were kicked in beaten, many suffered psychological effects and never went back to work. Who was bashed? Who was bashed? That's a question.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Heaps. All of them, yeah. And it was not pleasant. And that's why this is a trickle along. You should never bash. Oh, yeah. Never bash. Never bash.
Starting point is 01:24:43 It's a lesson that I've always said. I'm actually anti-bashing. Whoa, whoa. Yeah. Yeah. All of that was satire. Huh. Well, you made it seem really cool.
Starting point is 01:24:52 So I don't know if the satire was entirely efficient. Yeah, you held a great note on my satire ability and I'll work on that. Okay. You had to mirror up to society. Society like what it's all. You were also smoking at the time and I'm like, Dan, that's looking good. Yeah. You know, maybe I'll smoke. And maybe, am I maybe too cool for satire? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, what's the kind of comedy that cool people do?
Starting point is 01:25:14 Observational? Can I do observational? Hosting TV shows? Hosting TV shows, okay. That's I'm fully... Reading other people's jokes with your beautiful face. Unfortunately my lot in life is to host a TV show Right. Hey, that sucks. You work with what you got. That sucks real bad. Carzy adult. Yeah, we're beautiful beautiful face Beautiful face. No Maze prison and piss on command. You can piss on command. Go right now. Oh my god He's doing it. Oh, I can feel that under the table. It's not pissing. I've ever seen my god. Look at firehose. Turn it off. Oh,
Starting point is 01:25:50 you can't turn it off on command. Okay. I vote for the door. I'm swinging around in here. That'd be terrible. I'm swinging around in here. That'd be terrible. Mm. Our maze prison was closed in the year 2000 and demolition began in October 2006. But the story lives on in 2017. The story of the escape was adapted into a film called Maze,
Starting point is 01:26:16 written and directed by Steven Burke and it holds a 5.9 rating on IMDB. Oh, out of 5.95? Yes. That's a no bad. Not bad, Steven. Yeah, good job. I hadn't heard of. Oh, out of 5.95? Yes. Wow, that's a good idea. No bad. Bad Steven. Yeah, good job.
Starting point is 01:26:28 I hadn't heard of any of the actors, but. Is it an Irish production? It is an Irish production. But then some of the people on IMDB were complaining that the accents went authentic. Oh, right. That's interesting. Yeah. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Some people are like, he sounded too Irish, no. Hahaha. His accent was too convincing. Well, too good. I think you find that this guy didn't sound like that. That kind of stuff. Huh. Well, I mean, anytime they need an Australian character
Starting point is 01:26:59 in American shows, it's so rarely an Australian. I'm like, there's so many Aussie actors over there. Desperate for work, doing American accents, probably not that well. Just let them do an Aussie one. Let them have a go. Baffling. Oh, point break, that's what I was thinking of.
Starting point is 01:27:17 I watched point break for the first time. It ends set in Bell's Beach. Fantastic. Yeah, that's true. Not filmed at Bell's. With some incredible surf. Amazing surf. The best surf felt as either surf.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Terrible surf. Two police officers run over and it's the worst Australian accent I've ever seen, but I heard I should say. But I've got like two lines, but still, get an Aussie. At least for the Australian release, get it dubbed over. Yes. Yes. Get Jack Thompson and Paul Hogan. Yes. Get Jack Thompson and...
Starting point is 01:27:45 Come on. Paul Hogan. Yes, get Jack Thompson and Paul Hogan. You're the best. Get Bud Tingwell. Get Jack Thompson. Bring him back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:54 From the dead. For this redub. He's that good. He's that good. Bud did do it, I reckon. Anyway. Anyway, that's the end of my report on the maze prison escape. Wow.
Starting point is 01:28:04 I knew none of that. I'd never heard of that at all Yeah, that I so it's just sometimes I go through the hat, you know as I'm sure you do two Jess and struck old find a Story you've never heard of and yeah, so it's the biggest escape still the biggest escaping in In UK history. Was it pitched well in the hat like to grab your attention? It was yeah, and also the fact that it's the maze prison. It sounds good. Yeah, it's like the rock. Yeah, it sounds good. The maze.
Starting point is 01:28:28 The cube. Like the movie cube. Yeah. The movie. The movie show the cube. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Cubs. Well, I liked it, but also, I kind of kept feeling like the guns were cheating. Yeah. I feel like a little bit. They should have bashed. Yeah, they should have bashed. Yeah, you've been through it. It was a bashing.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Yeah, I think so, yeah. Did any of the inmates have the ability to get angry and turn green and very large? Did anybody have that ability? Yeah. Like a leprechaun. Yeah that ability? Yeah, leprecha. Yeah, it's like a leprecha. Notoriously big. Very big, boys. Very strong, yes.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Very strong, very angry. Certainly. Always angry. This is a crack. If you enjoyed this one, I've been lucky to have two secrets. If many places were saying it was like the biggest escape since our coldest castle, which I have also done a report on.
Starting point is 01:29:31 And also escape from Alcatraz, I did an episode on. It's got a real feel for him. The real trip ditch of escapes. Which is your favourite day? I would say the coldest castle one. That was a lot of fun. Yeah, that was how cold it was. That was a probably crazy one. Oh, they do look like HHS. I've just looked it up. They do look like HHS. They also look like tie fighters. Does anyone else getting that? No. Don't give it to me. That's a no. Come on, Mesa. You can be honest with me. Don't give it to me. That's a no, come on, Mesa.
Starting point is 01:30:03 You can be honest with me. Yeah, no. No, no, no. No. Let it go, mate. Let it go. Thank you. Well, that's the end of the report section of the show.
Starting point is 01:30:11 But it's time now for what many people call the best and most favorite part of the show. And that is the fact, quote, or question part. And I believe it has a theme song. Facts quote or question. Ding. Nice. I always remember that being. Now just how does the fact quote or question work?
Starting point is 01:30:36 Well if you support the show on the associate producer level or above, is that right? No. On the Sydney Shineburg Deluxe package. If you support us there, you get to submit a fact, a quote, or a question, and we read them out, and we answer them if it's a question. Or we comment on them if it's a fact or a quote. Absolutely, this is correct now.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Mesa, would you mind if we read out some facts, quotes, and our questions to you? I would be, is some facts, quotes and questions. So these come from our Patreon supporters, and if you support them, is that one of the questions? Mesa, would you mind if we read out some fact quotes and our questions to you is in fact quotes in question So these come from our patreon supporters and if you support one of the questions May so would you mind if we read the mouse? Submitted by Johnny be good be good Johnny be good Yeah, it was actually the subject of the that song yeah It was a patreon about huh?
Starting point is 01:31:21 That's good. I've got a few movers and shakers in the patreon We're very success. I was gonna say, if you've got you only been good, yeah. And if people want to support the show, they can do so at any time. And you can unlock rewards like bonus episodes. We've put out over 100 bonus episodes now. And we've put out three extra a month
Starting point is 01:31:36 that you can get your teeth into. And we also announce shows earlier. We have a Facebook group. And you also vote on the topics you really decide what we're going to talk about on the show but of course the fact quote or question now Matt usually reads these out but Jess and I am at it we're going to have a go here today. We're going to do our best can you read Dave? Oh I've no but I've committed these to memory.
Starting point is 01:32:00 And I'm putting it all on you because you've got a computer so you're going to be the bulk event today. I'm going to all on you because you've got a computer. So you're going to be in the bulk event today. Very good. I'm going to be the guy. Now, what happens is people give themselves a title. And our first one comes from Daniel Headley, who is vice resident, Dickhead of the pod. Oh.
Starting point is 01:32:18 Oh. An important title. And he has submitted a question and like Matt does, we never read these until we read them. So we have no idea what's going to be said here, but the question from Daniel is, what are your favorite local Melbourne bands? Minds the scientist. Minds the scientist. Oh, that's tough.
Starting point is 01:32:39 He says, now gigs are going again. I want to support local music now more than ever. Give me your recommendations, please, and's tough. He says, now gigs are going again. I want to support local music now more than ever. Give me your recommendations, please, and thank you. Well, I've got to give a shout out to my main man, Tom Mitchell, who some of you may know as the former lead singer of Weed Hornet, my high school pal, who was still going strong, rockin' and rolling, and he's currently on the National Tour
Starting point is 01:33:00 with his band, Bell Haven, who just put out a new single and fantastic act. So if you're out and about, there are my recommendations. That's great. Put on a great show, a lot of energy. Well, I've seen those guys rock out. That's a hard one. You know a lot of their bands, though, yes?
Starting point is 01:33:18 Well, I do, and I don't. Oh. I don't know. The only one I can think of, just straight off the top of my head, is probably one of my favorite musicians. She'd been my of all time list. Yeah. Wow. That's Angie McMahon, who's very, very wonderful. But I don't know. I mean, if she's doing gigs and she don't gonna be there, but that would be one of my go-to's, she's doing gigs and shit, I'm gonna be there. But that would be one of my go-tos.
Starting point is 01:33:47 It's very hard, though, isn't it? I mean, there'd be so many. But I can't think of- No, this is one. Andy McManthus, that's a perfect one. Mason, do you have any recommendations? Yeah, it's tough. See?
Starting point is 01:34:00 It's tough, tough. So when people ask us, and we often ask them, if they could answer it themselves. Oh, yes. And Daniel has done that. His real answer is Prius Club, a little garage punk rock band out of Brunswick. Check them out. Also, Jess should play him on Triple J.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Okay. Prius Club. So I get enough of those messages on Instagram, on the text line on Triple J sometimes to my email. I don't need him in the fact, co-edal question. All right. Hey, but he's the vice-resident dickhead of the party. It's allowed to say these things.
Starting point is 01:34:31 I'll take that back. What about the band? Amel and the sniffers. They're from Melbourne. Are they from Melbourne? They're from Melbourne. Yeah, no, it's fine. They're in a band.
Starting point is 01:34:39 What about? Oh, you know who I like? I don't know if they're from Melbourne, but they might be cash savage in the last rings. Oh, yes. Go to Australian band. Check them out. On Spotify, probably. who I like. I don't know if they're for Melbourne, but they might be cash savage in the last drinks. Oh, yes Good Australian bear. Check them out on Spotify probably check them out. Yes. Love that great name. I love that The best name someone and the sun. Yeah, very good catfish in the bottle man a good for that arcena Oh, that's great. Put in the sun. Sumpfer them the sons of mum food
Starting point is 01:35:01 Bono and the rest. And the rest. Love that. So thanks Daniel. Next up is Mike Killan. He's giving himself the nickname King Man. Oh, wow. He. The man amongst kings. A lot to live up to.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Hope you don't disappoint. All right, King Man. Here we go. What? Do your best, mate. Take your best shots. It was a good question from King Man. And that go. What? Do your best, mate. We get to take your best shots. We've also got a question from King Man and that is if you could be the first person to
Starting point is 01:35:28 do anything past or future, what would it be? What about present? Yeah. You could do something new right now. Whoa. I'm guessing this is if you could go back into the past or future. Where would you go? I don't know if I like the past. Okay, none of the past. Nothing interest you?
Starting point is 01:35:50 It'd be a bit to be stinkier the past. Yeah, I think so. What about, so a couple of weeks ago, I did an episode. I'd like to go to a couple of weeks ago. Yes. Wanna be part of that episode? A fortnight ago. Go on, it was a good time.
Starting point is 01:36:02 I had this great sausage roll. Not sure I was a good time. I had this great sausage roll. Not true, I was eating a pie. So I, two weeks ago, I did an episode on George Mallory, and Man Everest. And the question is, did he ever make it? And if you could go back somewhere, find out something and come back unharmed. That's a great answer. I'd like to know that mystery. Yeah, that's a good one. I'd like to go back. Did he, did he make it here in heaven? What was that? What was that speaking of? What was that mystery that you got? You I should go back. Did he, did he make it, him and Evan? What was that, what was that speaking of?
Starting point is 01:36:27 What was that mystery that you got? You guys have covered it, and I think there was some new information about it, quite recently. It was a bunch of people that died on a cliff face. Diadal of past? Yes. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 01:36:40 You'd like to find out what happened there. Yeah, because there was some new information. There was, yeah. That's a lunch, didn't they say? That's what they were saying. Well, it's a bigger avalanche. Yeah, so. I mean, I wouldn't want to be in the path of the avalanche.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Like, I draw the line there. I don't want to know the answer if the answer is coming at me and is going to kill me immediately. Yeah, I'd like to know that I can come back. That'd have to be part of it. Yeah, yeah. Is it a bit sad that I can't possibly picture myself excelling at anything in order to be the first person
Starting point is 01:37:10 to do it, like in the future? Well, that's like, I mean, I'm like, oh, feels like a bit of pressure. First, I was like, first person to go to Mars, I was like, I'm gonna go fucking Mars. It is a bit hard. Maybe it could be something you did accidentally. Like, it could be the first person to like,
Starting point is 01:37:24 fall down 52 flights of stairs and live or something. And be unscathed. I mean, live. No, I don't want to do that actually because that would still be scary. Okay, that would be scary. I don't want to do that. Oh, I've totally misunderstood the question that you answered. I thought it was the first person to go into the future or past, but the phrasing is,
Starting point is 01:37:44 if you could be the first person to do anything, oh my goodness, oh, I'm so sorry Mike, I misunderstood. I wanna be like, obviously I haven't, I can't figure it out right now because, you'll understand what I mean. I wanna be the person who first discovers like the equivalent of PB&J.
Starting point is 01:38:06 I find a really good source of power. You want to invent the new source of power. It shouldn't make sense, but it does. Or a cocktail. You could start doing that tomorrow. I could do. Just go to opposins of the supermarket and just get stuff. Combine it.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Frozen prawns. And WD40. That's great, you know? Maybe it's amazing. Great. That's a good one. Very smoothly. Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:34 Because of the WD40. Exactly. Really lube it up the throat. Right. Right. Right. Hey. Lube and chili powder.
Starting point is 01:38:43 Wow, it makes chili slide down before they burn. Yeah. Wow. I'd like to invent something like a product, like something that whatever you say next is the invention, I think, because I think it's on the tip of your tongue right now I think whatever you say is gonna be the thing Yeah, and you have to devote the rest of your life to it. I reckon you've got this day. Okay. I'd like something That cooks nachos perfectly every time
Starting point is 01:39:16 Okay, and oven and oven, but I find that at many Mexican chain restaurants you order the nachos They put them in they've set a timer, but it's never right, correct. What if the time was inbuilt? So you want a device that blows up all Mexican chain restaurants? Yes. Because then you wouldn't even have to think about it. I want to be the first person to own every single Mexican chain restaurant in the world. Yeah. And shut them down. And shut them down.
Starting point is 01:39:41 You won't shut them down. Well, you're going to put it, you're gonna buy this specific device for all of them that just does the nachos, has no other purpose, just does nachos. I've got, I've got pretty low low hopes. But I mean, if you heard that there was a Mexican restaurant and it served the best perfect nachos every time.
Starting point is 01:40:02 You'd go. You'd go. Because you'd go how powerful could they be? And then you'd go and you'd know. You'd go. Because you'd go how powerful could they be? And then you'd go and you'd know. You'd go holy shit, they're perfect. Those are the best nachos I've ever had. Yeah, and then like people love and so much it changes the world. That's it.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Like to be the first person to get when a Nobel Peace Prize for a nacho-related invention. Classic white man. Yeah. Come on in taking over something. Yeah. Unbelievable. I'm not taking over.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Improving? Yeah, that's what the settler's working. Wow. By improving. I'd want to call this. I'd want to make racial equality happen. So I guess one of us is better. Yeah, Jess, who invented a cocktail? You're a piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:40:37 You said cocktail. I said the PB and J, the new PB and J. Yeah. Prawns and WD40. Prawns and 40s they and J. Yeah. Prawins and WD40. Prawins and 40s, they call them. Yeah. 40s. Prawins.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Prawins. Oh, it's going in the pub, gets in Prawins. It's going to espresso my T-Ease and some Prawins. Oh, that's a gross combo. Yeah, but maybe it's a tough one. But maybe it works. I'm, guys have invented the perfect combo, which is my espresso, my tiniest and prawnies, which we've already established is prawns covered in WD4.
Starting point is 01:41:09 Oh my god, that sounds so delicious. Right. Yeah, what a night out. Sign me up. Right after I finish off my lube, Chile. Thanks so much, Mike Kill and Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm a silly question, but you know, many answers there. I'd like to thank also Vincienzo Giovanni Bonardonna,
Starting point is 01:41:25 what a name. Whose nickname is, or title, Seymour Asses. Great. Which I don't get. Ha ha ha ha. I love that. We got a fact from Seymour Asses, and that is, it's obviously you guys are fans of the Simpsons,
Starting point is 01:41:42 since there's the Simpsons references in a lot of episodes and the you guys just say that you enjoy it. Yep, that is a good way to ascertain things about people. That's he know me so well. Because it's only my favorite show, Futurama, also created by Matt Granning. I've also seen every episode more times than I can count and have a somewhat encyclopedic knowledge of the show. In their first director, DVD,
Starting point is 01:42:07 Futurama movie, Bender's Big Score, there happens to be a lot of time travel, which inadvertently creates duplicates of the people who travel into the past. A copy of Fry, aka Lars, went back to live in the year 2000 and he was able to spend his time there with his dog Seymour. I enjoyed this retcon because the episode that originally featured Seymour in brackets Jurassic Park was very sad. That's one of the few ones I remember like, you know, what actually happened.
Starting point is 01:42:38 Thank you guys. Glad to go on as having live shows again that is very rad. I'd love to see one one day. One day, my partner wanted to name our dog Seymour because of that episode. Wow. Because of Freistog. Or Frey. Frey's a good day. It's pretty cute. Yeah, but then you compromised
Starting point is 01:42:59 and you called your dog Seymour ass. Exactly. Brilliant. Yeah, because it's fun to yell at the park. Also next on the list. Vincenzo Giovanni Bono Dona. Very good. I know a dog called Vincenzo. That's cute. He's a ton of greyhound. Finally, I'd like to thank Dominic Stevenson, the title of Third Unpire. It's a good one. Sometimes we are referred to. That's the one that can eat up in the box whilst they're doing their job.
Starting point is 01:43:28 For Jai, I think it's great. Eat up in the box. That's a good day, though. Thank you for giving us a fact, which is the original design for Mr. Potato Head was simply a packet of plastic body parts and accessories for a child to stick into a real potato. Hours of fun and a snack for afterwards. PS, the toys been in the news recently because Hasbro updated its name to the gender, neutral
Starting point is 01:43:57 and more inclusive potato head. Thank you Dominic Stevenson. Obviously based on the Facebook comments is political correctness gone man. Lost their fucking mind. Even though Mr Potato Head is still a product. If you want that one, you're welcome to it. Okay, but when's there going to be a Mr Potato Head for men? Yeah. That's all I'm asking.
Starting point is 01:44:22 I'm just asking questions. There's no wrong answers here. In fact, there's no answers for me. I don't know. Thanks so much Dominic Stevenson, and that brings us just to our next favorite section of the podcast. Yes. And that is where we thank people that have supported the show at a certain ask prod
Starting point is 01:44:42 level. That's right. These ones from the ask prod level. They's right, this one's from the ask prod level. They are associate producers of our hearts and above. And we'd like to usually thank them with a little game, Jess. Yes, I was thinking, because you know how you had the maze, the rock, the cube,
Starting point is 01:44:55 we name their prison. Oh, great, terrific. They're the warden, this, ah. This is where you work. Yeah, you work at Insert Cool Name. What are you working at that? I think it's fantastic. And what color are the uniforms?
Starting point is 01:45:11 Okay, right. Plenty to work with here. So let's thank some people, shall we? Please. I would love to thank from Carey in Illinois. Is that Illinois? Yeah. I would love to thank Adam.
Starting point is 01:45:24 Oh boy, Adam. I can't. Dragon it's Crap Zinsky. Yeah. It's an amazing name written down. Oh, Adam Crap. Crap Rinsky? No.
Starting point is 01:45:42 Crap Chinsky. Yeah, Chinsky or Zinsky or Erika? Zinsky. Adam. Crap Chinsky. Yeah, Chinsky or Zinsky Erika? Zinsky. Adam. C-dog. C-dog. Where is Adam escape from? No, the warden of. The warden of. Adam's a good boy. I think his prison is in Kare. And it's called the Kare K care bear. Oh, that is. You look at it from helicopter, it looks like a care bear. Which one? And was that an accident? I can't name a care bear.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Because to the architect we want this to be absolutely brutal, we want to crush this fear inside. There's like, it's just concrete, no color whatsoever. No, no, no. Outside, very cute. No lights, no nothing. And he's like, okay, we've got to make her perfectly rounded surface roof and and put some make it furry so they can't even hear the outside world. Yeah, but it's pink fur because that was cheaper.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's got yeah, little moons and she's got it. It's got me. Yep. It's really, it's very calming from the outside. That's right. Yeah, yeah. And really dem really calming from the outside. That's right. It's really sweet. And really demoralising from the inside. You've got to be right about it. Yeah. So pretty good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Um, thanks so much, Adam. I'd also love to thank from Pamela and New South Wales. Jordan Heatherington. Jordan Heatherington has escaped from. Oh my god. You keep making him escape. Oh, sorry. You know, I'm okay. You can escape. No, he can escape. I'm in Moves and Moves on the keep making him escape. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 01:47:06 Okay, no he can't escape. I'm in Moves and Moves on the side of the escape. Of course you are. But all right, now he's the prison warden. I'm always on the side of the warden. No, he's trying to do a job. Yeah, come on. He's trying to do a job. I'm gonna do the warden in Shawshank.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Oh yeah, now it's a bad warden. That's a crook. Exception that proves they're all like, yeah. And the warden in the longest yard, the second look like the more modern Adam Sandle one, bad dude. They're all crusty old deans. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:35 What about the vinyl paradise? Oh, vinyl paradise. That's a bit sexy. It's sexy, but like paradise is, you know. It's in the back of a user record shop. Yeah. You locked out the back. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:49 And they're constantly playing terrible, terrible A.D.s music. Oh, dear. And you're just really slowed down. Yeah, not you too. Anything but. Anything but. People like, please put on the Josh Schewer tree. I will not.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Why do it? It's Jack Johnson or nothing. Yeah. Well, the nicest man of rock. God, he's so nice. So nice. And so chilled out. I've actually heard this fact that he is so relaxed.
Starting point is 01:48:13 I wanted that, too. I got to love it. Thank you, Jordan. Thank you, Jordan. I was like, how many are we doing 3-H still? What do we think? Let's just do three each. Otherwise, it'll go forever and be very tedious.
Starting point is 01:48:28 Okay, great, three each. I love that. I would love to thank for an un-un-un stipulated location. Oh, mystery. Some sort of black ops prison. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would love to thank Tim Lidell. Oh, the Mute of Triangle prison.
Starting point is 01:48:43 Yes. In the middle of the Bermuda Triangle. The Triangle? Yes. That's what's in there. And ironically. Or the Pyramid. Now the Triangle.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Triangle. Ironically from space, it's actually a hexagon. Oh. Yeah. It's a very confusing. But that doesn't sound tough, does it? No. The hexagon.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Sounds stupid. He's like, rename it the Triangle. They'll never count how many sides this prism. Don't worry about it. Yeah. So Tim, Lidl, wherever you're triangle. They'll never count how many sizes this person has. That's your name. So Tim Little Hill, wherever you're from. Thank you so much. I wish you well. I would like to thank Ava and Mei from Yuma in Arizona. Yuma!
Starting point is 01:49:15 I would like to. Yuma! Why you held that? Give me two. I would like to thank Blake T. Wild. Blake T. Wild. Blake T. Wild. Blake T Wild. Blake T Wild broke out of. Happy day.
Starting point is 01:49:30 No, no, no, he's the warden. He's the warden. Oh, I'll break out of it. I'll break out of all prisons. Can't keep me locked in. DIMMENT. The diamond. In the rough.
Starting point is 01:49:42 Oh, oh. So it was like in the middle of nowhere. Yeah Wow, so it's like oh fine. You can the middle of a desert. Yeah, you can escape But we're in the middle of the goby desert. Yeah, where are you gonna go? There's 500 miles of sand and every corner? Honestly the guards just leave walk 500 miles Yeah, just be the man who walks 500 miles fine. It's around about a thousand miles 2001 just in case. Wow.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Oh, thank you so so much. Like, team Wild. The losing miles to Foldo Nacho Dore. Da da da da. Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. Fucking great song. Great art band. Blessing that way home.
Starting point is 01:50:22 Probably. It's thematic. It fits with the episode. Yeah. Oh, I'd like to thank you, Bamae, from Athiston in South Australia. Carolyn Slater. Slater! Slater! All right, Carolyn of the prison called Adelaide.
Starting point is 01:50:39 Oh! Brittle! I was gonna call it because of the Slater Cup, which is Justin Apartment, is ice hockey cup or air hockey. You're gonna call it the park. Oh, I like that a lot. Yeah. And they make all the prisoners wear hockey jerseys and like the full outfits.
Starting point is 01:50:59 So there is any fights that don't get hurt by that. And it's very cumbersome. Yeah. Just getting around. Just wandering around. And they're also wearing ice skates, but it's concrete. And it's very cumbersome. Yeah, just getting around. Wandering around and then also wearing ice skates, but it's concrete. And you're knocking into a room that's sorry. Oh, sorry about that.
Starting point is 01:51:10 Oh, the black. Don't give them ice skates. They stab each other with those. Those things are sharp. Blunt ice skating. Thank you. Rollerblades is what they call themselves. Yes.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Ha ha ha. Well, Rollerblades all of it. And finally for me, I would like to thank from Hodsten. Hodsten, I believe in Georgia, Colin, Hitgiz. Hitgiz. I've mispronounced all of that except Colin. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Colin, we're pretty confident. It's correct, but there's no guarantee. Hodsten, Georgia, Colin Hitzkerz. Colin Hitzkerz has just broken out of the little prison called Adelaide. Yeah! Hell yeah! Oh, he's celebrating so hard, we've got to give it to him. What about the match box? Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 01:52:05 Because that's a patecae redoux. Oh yeah. You better believe that prison is full amable. Is that a good thing? Oh yeah. Yeah, that's how they pitched it. The design of the architect was like, yeah, this place is gonna get...
Starting point is 01:52:17 Everything is full amable. It's extremely full amable. Yeah, yeah. We're not gonna seal anything so it could flood easily. Honestly, it's basically just some bits of cardboard. This prison is a disaster. Yeah. Waiting to happen. So I would say get a good insurance policy on it because that will result in a payout. It's just an insurance fraud.
Starting point is 01:52:41 I see. Yeah. To be clear, I'm telling you it's an insurance fraud. I see. Yeah. To be clear, I'm telling you it's an insurance fraud. Anyway, pay me money for this. They love honesty. They're the prison building system. I love it. Thank you, Colin. Caroline, Blake, Tim, Jordan and Adam for supporting the show. You can do so at patreon.com. So let's do go on pod. And there's only one thing left to do. And that is to see, there's any entrance into the trip ditch club and Nick Mace and that's people that have been supporting the show on a shout out level or above for three consecutive years. My goodness. These people are whole of famous in our hearts and we've set up a little club and
Starting point is 01:53:18 then we welcome people into it, Jess comes up with an order and a drink, I book in a band or actually, Mace, how can I, would you like to say a band that you would like to? You too. Fantastic. Okay, what a coincidence because I came up. The third guy who's in you too. Yes. Larry's name's at Larry. Larry Mellon's junior. There we go.
Starting point is 01:53:36 Great. So they're playing as a three-base. The bass player Adam was not invited. Replaced by Johnny Utah. Johnny Utah on on base. Tonight the role of Adam Clayton will be played by Johnny Utah. I'm gonna do a little bit. It's on the cover again. On the cover of being in YouTube.
Starting point is 01:53:56 I know he's on the cover in the YouTube cover band. Yeah, but three of the members actually. They're also on the cover. Yeah, very confusing. Wow, that bono is pretty good. You want bono was like I got to go on a cover, but the only thing you can conceive of is being in YouTube. Yes, best cover could come up with.
Starting point is 01:54:14 What's the last place you look, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. You should cover, Ben. So they're playing just we have an order of a drink in the club. Yes, we will be serving shit, smeared on walls. Wow, is that like code for something? Oh, yeah, it's just what the dish is called. Oh, thank God. It's actually just a gingerbread house coated
Starting point is 01:54:32 with chocolate. Oh, fantastic. Yeah, it's really lovely. I love to think of shit when I'm eating. Yeah, absolutely. I know. I love to combine the two drinks wise, Guinness set in Ireland. Great work. Guinness and Bulma's if you want something different. Very good. If not, I'll get the fuck out. If you don't like either of those, you don't belong here. That is.
Starting point is 01:54:53 Just kidding, there's a full bar. Help yourself to anything you want. Well, Jess. Yes. It's time to check if there are any more entrants and how are we going to do this? Because usually, measewithamuses, Matt reads out the name, I hype them up and then as they hype man
Starting point is 01:55:06 and Jess hipes me up as my hype man. Incredible. I will read the names and you can do your usual. If you read the names and you're trying to hype it's going to be too confusing for you, don't you think? I believe so. So I'll hype that up, mate. So if you wouldn't mind, if you could just
Starting point is 01:55:22 hype me up a little bit. All right. I'll hype as well. We can both hype. Right, it'll be great, because honestly, without the hype, what am I doing? That's true.
Starting point is 01:55:30 So you've got five people. Oh gosh, I can't. You can do it, you can do it. All right, here we welcome into the trip, just call it. These are very important people to us, and we thank them so much, and we want to hype them up.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Here we go. From Bowen Hills in Queensland, we've got Cameron Fullwood. Oh, we've got a full wood house tonight Love that yes from Ruchtdale South in Queensland Rachel Dazzle It's gonna wait with this guy Yeah! Woo!
Starting point is 01:56:01 It's got to work with the words this guy. Rappere! Wordsmith, whoo, whoo, they call him the Shakespeare of rap. From Ludlow in Shropshire. Oh, great. Karen Berry. Oh, Berry Nice to see you. Yes!
Starting point is 01:56:15 Yes! Just seems like Berry Nice. Yeah, he's the right one. He's the right one. I'm the word. Yeah. Oh, yeah. From Blackburn Victoria and the patron of this very microphone I'm talking into, it's
Starting point is 01:56:28 Rachel Johnson. I was gonna Blackburn down this bar until you turn up and now we're gonna have a great night. You're a kid. He was gonna do awesome but he didn't do it. You saved me from a prison sentence and probably people might have died but you didn't let me do it. And finally. Thank you, Struggle, for that sentence. you didn't let me do it. And finally,
Starting point is 01:56:45 thank you, struggle for that sense, because they're in the end of the video. We're here with you. Thank you for the result and the journey. And finally, from Windhoek and what country would be in it? Oh, Windhoek, that's the Namibia. Oh, wow. I believe that's the capital of Namibia.
Starting point is 01:57:02 All right. Windhoek. Dave's coming in hot with a fat. Yeah, that's a fat Yeah I love to thank Mari Lee Mari Lee He said the name he said the name he was gonna the name you said Jesse said it again I was gonna Mari Lee Until you turn party. Yeah
Starting point is 01:57:22 But yeah, you're here saved ited it. Not as bad as Arson, but still bad. Well, from Namibia, that's very, very cool. That's amazing, cool. Well, thank you so much to everyone that does support the show. And if you'd like to be part of any of that stuff, plus the bonus episode, the Facebook group, all the other stuff, go to patreon.com slash do go on pod. We've got to get Matt to listen to the end of that,
Starting point is 01:57:44 because he brings a lot of negativity to that part of the show. He doesn't really get it. No, that's right. If we're all going to board. We're pretty cool of Dave. Wow. And Dave's hyping.
Starting point is 01:57:54 And honestly, Dave did so well today. I feel like I was free-flowing because there was so many good vibes. I think it was the blam, blam, blam, blam. Was the people that do it for you? I really appreciate that. I can't do it as well as Mesa, but I will record him doing it and just play it to you.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Can we get it one more time? You could bring it in your own ear hole. Okay, that's for the ears. Bweep, weep, weep, weep. Very good. Was that a really horn or so good? You never know. Nick and Mesa, Mesa, thank you so much for coming in
Starting point is 01:58:18 and joining us on this episode. We really appreciate it. I love the love to be here. Love being the booth. And we also love your fantastic podcast, The Weekly Planet. Cute. Which I'm sure a lot of our listeners are very aware of,
Starting point is 01:58:30 but just in case they haven't heard it, what's it all about? That's about, it's a podcast about movies and TV shows and comic books sometimes. And sometimes Zack Snyder releases a new version of Justice League that's for as long. We talk about it for a really long time. Wow.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Is that what the Schneiderarada Cut is just, still don't quite get it, but. It's pretty much it, yeah. Oh, I absolutely love it. I think the movie Justice League. No. Don't worry about it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:58:55 Honestly, that is what I do with my superhero mouse. Have you got four hours watch the Zack's night as Justice League? Four hours, okay. Is it, question is, which one's better? If I have to watch one. I think the four hour one is better. Okay, that's good.
Starting point is 01:59:06 It's four as long. Yeah, it's too long. I'll definitely do that in a few settings. Yeah. I'm 30 now, my back goes. If I sit down for too long. You like a shark always moving. I got a moan.
Starting point is 01:59:17 You never stop. I can't sit still. So it's a fantasy podcast, honestly. I can't wait. Would you love you and of course, Mr. Sunday movies, James, on that show. We have a lot of fun. And we can follow you on Twitter
Starting point is 01:59:27 Twitter. I'm at Wikipedia Brown and Instagram Nick Maso and I CK M-A-S-E-A-U It's a bit French What that is may see and of course we can catch you live with the primates crew That's exactly right. April 4th. Yeah. It's coming out really soon. Yeah, you know, assuming Matt comes back from his gig, which he will any minute now.
Starting point is 01:59:51 Any minute. And he's going to come back. That's right, he missed. You did promise that he turned up, but he did not. And here he is. And he's got an air horn. Where is Fallen? He's falling down the stairs.
Starting point is 02:00:00 Oh, do you? Oh, yeah. So that's on April 4th, where you're supposed to see the big day. We can see primates to a clock with you, Evan, Cass and Matt, and then me doing book cheat, 415 with Michelle Brazier, Ben Russell, Matt's down up show and then us bringing home with the do-go on part of day 30.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Yeah, and in between, you can be listening to me, I'm gonna go J. Oh. You always forget that part. Oh my lord. Probably because we don't have to sell tickets for that bit. Exactly, it's just a national radio. Because you get paid regardless. Oh my lord. Probably because we don't have to sell tickets for that bit. Exactly. It's just a national radio.
Starting point is 02:00:26 Because you get paid regardless. I sure do. Yes, I've been selling tickets for that. I've been out in the front of the Melvitan Hall Firing for you being on Triple J. We cannot do that. Oh. The ABC.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Oh, fuck. Oh dear. And so you're going to get me in prison. Well, I'm out of jail now. I saw an Iter- butro slad, you said? No! No idea. Yeah, now she said she'd look in the room. I'm going at Iter- butro's ladies. No! Yeah, now she said she'd look in her. I'm gonna have to bash my way out.
Starting point is 02:00:49 There we go. You have, of course, in context at any time, at doogawonpod on all the social medias and doogawonpod.com is our website, but I think that's pretty much it. What's it? We'll be back next week with another episode, but until then, I'll say thank you so much for listening
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