Do Go On - 289 - Oprah Winfrey

Episode Date: May 5, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal, and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Wornicky, and as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Hello. Back in the studio once more, does it feel good? It's been a while. It's great to be back amongst your faces. It feels fine. It's comfortable. It's pretty comfortable, good temperature in here. Yeah, no, it's quite nice.
Starting point is 00:01:03 It's pleasant temperature. Is that what you meant? Yes, Jess, I just, I need to call you out on this. Yes. because we did get some feedback about the live shows that we sounded like we were being nasty to each other. Oh, that was joke nasty. Joke nasty.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Well, I have started a legal proceeding. Well, to be completely honest, I have cripplingly low self-esteem and imposter syndrome. And honestly, I often put people on a pedestal and they don't really value me in the same way and then they kind of leaves me feeling a bit rejected and a bit isolated. And then so on the flip side of that,
Starting point is 00:01:35 something I do a lot, basically, as a way to protect myself, as a defence mechanism, is that I push, I keep people at an arm's length. So when I say things like, you say friend and I say, oh, colleague, that is just me being terrified of letting you in. Okay, so hopefully that's clear for the listeners. Just jokes and, you know, sadness. Sadness.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Sadness and a symptom of some mental health scenarios. Exactly. So if you have a go at me for it, you're kind of the problem. I think we've cleared that up. I think everyone's feeling more comfortable now. I was just going to say, hey, just let you know it's all jokes. But Jess put it in a much more succinct way.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Much more real way. Much more succinct. Now, well, the good news is we're hoping to do more live shows now. You know, things are opening up a bit in Australia. And one we've booked in already in Melbourne is our live screening of the mummy at Lido Cinemas in September. And afterwards we're recording an episode of Frasing the Bar, our spin-off Patreon on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:39 We go through Brendan Fraser's movies in the cinema. And we put that on sale last week. We've sold half the tickets, the cinema, and you get to book your seat. If you look at the map, it is absolutely filling up. Yes, it is. That is ridiculous. Really exciting. So if you want to get involved with that, there is a link in the description of this episode,
Starting point is 00:02:56 or you go toledocinemas.com.com. You slash mummy. Which is fun. But if you go toledonofinemas.com slash daddy, It's very different link, so don't. What do they have on this side? It's a special kind of, it's a special thing they're doing. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:03:15 It's porn. Oh. And that's okay. So. Yeah, that's sick. Porn's been given the Jess tick of approval. You know, that's fine. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Do you, do you? All right. We're going to crack into this week's episode. And for first time listeners, Jess, what is this show? This show is called Do Go On. The do is where one of us goes and do is a report. Oh, okay. I like this.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Yeah. What's the go then? They do some research. They go. Sorry, one of them goes and doze the report. Doose the research. Doos the research. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:55 They write up the report as part of their research that they've dozed. Yeah. And then they go in their car. They come here and the shit here. Okay. And we all see each other We say hello And then
Starting point is 00:04:08 We turn on the microphones And we The one who did the report Says it to the other two Who politely applaud So are you telling me I should have turned these microphones on Oh dear I think that that is
Starting point is 00:04:26 Not only the microphones are on But Jess is on That's fantastic And Jess is enjoying her own jokes I look too much I liked it too. Fantastic. Well, this week, I am the one who's doing the report. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:40 And I'm going to ask. That's just normal English. Yeah. I really would have been funny if it wasn't. But I couldn't figure out how to do it wrong. What a dozy. And I am going to get us on a topic this week by asking a question. And the question this week is, I think it's a very getable one.
Starting point is 00:04:59 So hands-on buzzes. Okay. Buzz. All right. I was just testing the buzzer I'm just testing the buzzer. No testing here. Jess, you get to hear the full question, but you've already buzzed in so you get
Starting point is 00:05:10 first go on it. It's a weird system. What? The game show where everyone just wants to buzz in really quickly. The question is, who famously said something like, you get a car, you get a car,
Starting point is 00:05:24 you get a car, you get a car, everyone gets a car. That would be Barry Burke from Berwick. Gail's best friend, Oprah. That's right. It's Oprah Winfrey. I'm going to tell the story of Oprah Winfrey. Dave, I know normally we do like a couple of joke answers,
Starting point is 00:05:45 but I could not risk giving you that opportunity and you swooping in and just giving the correct answer. So I just had to go for it. I hope you understand. We have a, because we have a listener who used to keep Talley who's been getting the most right. Last I heard I was winning. But I haven't had an update in, I reckon, two years.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Yeah. And that's no pressure to them. It's a big task. Yeah. Maybe they've moved on. I wouldn't do it. In fact, I'm not doing it right now. Just you know, I didn't know, so I did.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Of course you bloody. It's funny. You've already picked a hole in this report. Her best friend, Gail, does not get a mention. Either to Stedman. I don't know if I should have mentioned that. Do you mention her talk show? In passing.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Oh, yeah, anyway. I mean, it's a very big successful talk show. and I will mention that, but yeah, I don't know, maybe this is an awful report, but... I don't think that's the case, no, I think you're focusing on her professional career. Let's see, let's find out. So this was suggested by Kearley from Queensland in Australia and Meredith Van Bikhusen from Auckland in New Zealand. A couple of Southern Hemisphere suggestors for this one. As a quick warning, Oprah's early life was brutally tough and she suffered from abuse.
Starting point is 00:07:02 So, yes, just a heads up. I'm not going to go into it too much, but I will be mentioning that. Are you ready for this report? I'm quite surprised it hasn't been suggested by more. Yeah, her name is in the hat a lot. Like, if I search for it, she comes up in the suggestions for other people's topics.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Like, there's a great interview by Oprah with this person and that sort of stuff. So more people have suggested Gail than Oprah. Yeah. What a slap in the story. And Tom Cruise jumping on chairs. Can we do an episode on the chair jumping? Oh, 100%. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I also don't mention that in this report. Sorry. I actually don't know how I'm going to fill this time. So Oprah was born on the 29th of January, 1954, in Koso, Mississippi in the United States of America. But Oprah is not actually her birth name. According to a BBC profile, do you know this? Oh, I thought it was. I do know.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Oh, yes. Is it, it's similar to Oprah? It is. Is it an anagram? Yes, it is. It's Orpa. Orpa. Orpah was her original name,
Starting point is 00:08:13 Orpa Gail Winfrey. That's right. So we're... From the BBC profile. That's right. Orpa. Orpa. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And I didn't realize that Gail was named after Oprah's middle name. Yeah. That's friendship for you. Imagine. Well, it's actually, that's just a character that Oprah plays. She's that good. She's like Eddie Murphy. She just plays her own family and friends.
Starting point is 00:08:39 So, Orpa. Orpa. So this is still from the BBC. She was named after a biblical figure in the book of Ruth. I didn't even know there was a book of Ruth in the Bible. It's instantly my favorite book. When no one knew how to spell or pronounce it properly, they started calling her Oprah instead.
Starting point is 00:08:58 And it stuck. And the name Oprah is now known to millions worldwide. having reached a level of fame where she can be identified by her first name alone. Yeah, that's the dream. Okay, I've just got to say, fair enough if you don't know how to pronounce the name, but there's no way you're mispronouncing Orpah and being like, I reckon that's Oprah.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Yeah. Yeah. But I did find it funny that this BBC article made a big deal about her being known by her first name. I was like, she's the only Oprah. You know, if it was like Greg, that would be quite an achievement. Greg from Greg's. Yeah. Or Adele.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Dell, yeah. I mean, that's... I know, lots of it. Adels. Right. You know? But there's only one Adel. So a name unknown.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Most of the mononame people, like Beyonce, you know, they're the only Beyonce you know. Yeah. Madonna. And I was going to say, Orpa is such, it's like, I was like, that's an unusual name, but so is Oprah. I'm just very used to it.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. The Orpa Winfrey show. That's fun. Yeah. I love it. I'd watch it.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Oprah's parents were young when she was born, about 19 and 21. Her mother, Venita Lee, was a housemaid, and according to the Washington Post, Oprah's father was in the armed services when she was born, and her mother was looking to escape Mississippi. Her father later said he heard of her birth when he received a printed baby announcement in the mail with a scribbled note that wrote, Send clothes!
Starting point is 00:10:29 Soon after Oprah's birth, her mother moved to Milwaukee, leaving Oprah with her grandmother on a small farm. According to Entrepreneur.com, her grandmother was a harsh but loving disciplinarian whom Wimfrey credits with fostering her outgoing personality and precociousness. Under her grandmother's tutelage, she learned to read by the age of two, and by the time she was three, her speaking talents had already began to emerge.
Starting point is 00:10:57 She was often invited to recite poetry at social clubs and church teas, where they referred to her as the little speaker. The Guardian writes that during the years living with her grandmother, she would often wear hessian overalls made from potato sacks that earned her the cruel nickname Sack Girl. Not very creative, right? Hun-Hanna, it doesn't mention who's calling her that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Guessing it's not her grandmother who's dressing her in those. Probably not. She had pet cockroaches and a doll made from a dried corncob. So she was really living in poverty out. on the farm. The Guardian article continues. When she was three, she would mock interview her doll
Starting point is 00:11:38 and the crows on the fence outside her grandmother's home. Stop it. She was such a gifted speaker in church that a kind of childhood nickname was The preacher. The preacher. I like little speaker.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah. That's fun. You know, like when you go to a party or a barbecue and you take your little Bluetooth speaker and everyone's like, oh, thank you so much for bringing the speaker because I forgot mine. And you're a real hero?
Starting point is 00:12:00 Is it my... Yeah. Is that a story from your life? I don't know, it might be. It's kind of amazing that she had so many nicknaves at such a young age as well. The little speaker, sack girl and the preacher. Imagine a little toddler reciting poetry, though. That's very cute.
Starting point is 00:12:18 According to the Washington Post at age six, Oprah went to live with her mother, then returned two years later to her father in Nashville, where she was welcomed by Vernon and his wife, Zelma. It's something that... No one's really made a point of this, but her parents' names are Venita and Vernon. Oh, yeah. What are the odds of that?
Starting point is 00:12:38 Two Verns. Imagine your mum and dad both been named some version of Vern. My uncle Michael married a Michelle. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. My dad used to date Apola. Oh, no. And his name's Darren.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Really? Yeah. So that's pretty weird. I work with a guy whose name is Kim, his wife. Also Kim. Get out. So the same name. That'd be very confusing in bed, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:13:03 Oh, real hot. Yes, Kim. Sorry that's someone you work with. You went straight there. Yes, Fern. Yeah, no, I couldn't, no. I don't think I'd be able to make it work with a male Jess. Because you're, there's, obviously, jessies and things out there.
Starting point is 00:13:24 You think that that would be a deal breaker for you. Yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, there's little things that you. It's not like you see someone like, I'm in love with them. I haven't even heard their name yet. Yeah. Well. Normally you hear the name and you're like, oh.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I kind of did do that. Okay. If you found out that their name was Jess, it would have been too late. Yeah, it's too late. I'm in. No, I mean, that's not fair to, but I wouldn't love it. I'd probably call them by their surname or something. I'd have a nickname for them, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:56 The last name is also Jess. Oh, no. Sorry. Oh, Jesse Jess. This is my boyfriend, Jesse Jess. Jesse Jess, Jr. This is my boyfriend. I could call him something else.
Starting point is 00:14:10 This is the little speaker. This is a preacher. So, yes. This is from Washington Post. She then returned two years later to her father in Nashville, where she was welcomed by Vernon and his wife, Selma. Selma had one difficult pregnancy, which ended in a miscarriage.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And while she wanted children, she didn't want to risk another pregnancy. So Oprah's arrival was for them a godsend, and they immersed her in their life of hard work, family and church. When Oprah was nine years old, her mother asked Vernon if Oprah could come for a visit for the summer. And Vernon agreed. But when he came to pick his daughter up the next fall, Oprah's mother told Vernon that Oprah was going to stay in Milwaukee with her, with her mom. Vernon Winfrey remembers crying over his daughter only once and that was when he had to leave her there with her mother saying we had brought her out of that atmosphere
Starting point is 00:15:08 because it was pretty tough there with her mum in Milwaukee we'd brought her out of that atmosphere out of a house into a home so I knew it was not good for her being in that environment again but he just said you know it was mum's wishes he just had to I guess that's tough yeah real tough and this is the toughest part of her life, I believe. In her years living in Milwaukee, Oprah suffered greatly, living through poverty and abuse.
Starting point is 00:15:36 According to Entrepreneur.com, her mother was so preoccupied with her own problems that she had little time for Winfrey. This lack of parental supervision left her vulnerable and beginning when she was nine and continuing for several years thereafter, Winfrey was sexually abused by several different men, including a teenage cousin and her mother's boy,
Starting point is 00:15:55 friend. Years later, during a show, like her own talk show, she was doing about incest, Winfrey burst in her tears and shared with her audience the story. Wow. So this was like early on in her show in 86 when she had her own, you know, the Oprah Winfrey show. And it was one of the things that I think she was so open about herself. And that really drew people in and made people feel like, you know, they really knew her. The article goes on to say Confused, ashamed, guilt-ridden and afraid to tell anyone What was being done to her
Starting point is 00:16:30 Winfrey began to act out So she And I think, yeah This is from the Washington Post The only way Winfrey could figure to fight for herself Was through manipulation and acting out Oprah wore bifocals that were butterfly rimmed She felt ugly in them and wanted to get a different style
Starting point is 00:16:49 But her mother said she couldn't afford them and Winfrey, already the accomplished actress, with a keen, dramatic sense, devised a plan. And this is quoting from Oprah. I stayed home from school, broke my glasses in many pieces, and called the police. After I pulled down the curtains and knocked over the lamps, I lay down on the floor and faked me unconscious and having amnesia. Of course, I'd seen this on Marcus Welby MD, a TV show about someone having amnesia. This was the story.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Someone broke in, hit me in the head and knocked off my glasses. Winfrey recalled laughing. Oprah's mother didn't think the stunt was very funny at all. I've seen her tell this story a few times, and she acts it out and the doctors are all like believing, and the mum comes in and it's just like not buying it at all. She'd been begging her for new glasses, and then all of a sudden...
Starting point is 00:17:38 Oh, how convenient. Yeah, they really smashed up the glasses. I didn't take anything else. And I don't remember any thing. So Oprah's mother didn't think the stunt was funny at all. She'd had it, recalls Oprah. she felt that Oprah was uncontrollable, ungrateful, and after the robbery stunt, maybe a little crazy,
Starting point is 00:17:56 according to Oprah. That's how her mom felt about it all. Knowing what's going on there, you feel obviously hugely unfair. But this is probably for the best, because as entrepreneur.com goes on, her increasing belligerence and delinquency proved too much for her mother.
Starting point is 00:18:18 She tried to put Winfrey in a detention centre, but the institution didn't have enough beds. So instead, she sent her back to live with her father in Nashville, Tennessee. Whoa. But that was option B. Yeah. I'd rather put you in detention, to be honest. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:31 All right, fine. You don't have a bed. Fine. Back to your dad. Go to your dad. Who, yeah, clearly. Who was really wanting to have you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:38 A strict disciplinarian, like her grandmother, Winfrey's father changed the course of her life. This is quoting Winfrey again. My father turned my life around by insisting that I can be more than I was, and by believing I could be more. His love of learning showed me the way. Living with her father, Oprah's life began to change. She became an honest student,
Starting point is 00:19:00 and according to Entrepreneur.com again, she rediscovered her flair for public speaking, emerging as a standout orator, which I think she already obviously showed signs of from a very young age. Wow. Her speaking skills earned her a scholarship to Tennessee State University,
Starting point is 00:19:15 where she majored in speech and drama. In 1973, while only a sophomore, the 19-year-old Winfrey, should I say something funny? Sorry? No, no. You did say sophomore. How do you say that?
Starting point is 00:19:29 She joined the soft-a-ball team. How do you say sophomore? Isn't that how you say sophomore? Sophomor. Really? I always thought that was sophomore. Sorry. Sophomore.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Sophomore. I've never heard it pronounce sophomore before. I've never heard sophomore. Sophomore. Okay. Well, that makes it feel like... I'm basing it on a lot of television and movies. Well, I believe that you would be...
Starting point is 00:19:54 That would be right, then. But I didn't mean to laugh and derail. No, that's okay. It wasn't worth that. I just made eye contact with Dave. That's so funny. I just... I mean, there's a...
Starting point is 00:20:03 Sophomore, but yeah. There's a big chance that Jess and I are both wrong and we're about to get one zillion tweets. No, I have a funny feeling if Jess has seen it on American TV. Yes. It's a word we don't really have here. No, it's not...
Starting point is 00:20:14 Maybe I've never heard it before. Really not. Because, I mean, it's written sophomore, I guess. Yeah. So maybe that, yeah, maybe I've only ever seen it written down. It feels like I would have. I mean, I've watched Degrassy Junior High. Yeah, surely that'll be in there.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Beverly Hills 90210. Yeah. Surely. It's got to be. Other shows. Other shows. Surely. Movies.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Dawson's Creek. Bring it on, you know, films. Yeah, chirocracy. Seinfeld. Seinfeld. All shows. You know, if it's school. Sophmore.
Starting point is 00:20:45 That is so funny that I feel like, because I would have definitely. definitely heard the word before. Yeah, at some stage. I do apologize. I appreciate you pulling me up on it because... Do you really appreciate this? No, I do. Because at least...
Starting point is 00:21:01 At least if you ignored it, I would have got tweets with people being annoyed by it. But anyway, it's a word that will not come up again. Okay, that's great to hear. While only a sophomore, yeah, it just doesn't feel... I mean... I reckon America's wrong on this. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:21:19 They also don't know how to pronounce or pa. Yeah. Good point. Or aluminum. So while only a sophomore, no, you're right. It is sophomore, isn't it? Jeez, Louise. While only a sophomore, the 19-year-old Winfrey was offered a job as co-news anchor at Nashville's CBS affiliate, WTVFTV,
Starting point is 00:21:43 and became not only Nashville's first female co-anchor, but the first black co-anchor as Whoa. At the age of 19. She's a sophomore. Now that you say it, it sounds ridiculous like that. How did she get that gig? That's awesome. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:00 She didn't even have to start like community radio and TV. I just think she was that good. Obviously undeniable. That's remarkable. Yeah. I predict big things for this kid. Do you reckon?
Starting point is 00:22:12 Yeah. I think you're full of shit, Dave. I got a funny feeling. I think you're full of shit. Joke nasty. Yeah. I think you're full of love and light. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:22:22 And I value you. You'll be hearing from my loyal. No. Inspired by her success at WTVFTV. I love that catchy. Was her first thing to be like, we've got to rebrand. Oprah left college during a senior year, sorry, senor year to accept a position in Baltimore with WJZTV as co-anchor of the evening.
Starting point is 00:22:48 news. And according to Oprah, this is wild, some of the stuff that they put her through early. According to Oprah, the news director said to me at the time, nobody's going to remember Oprah. So we want you to change your name. We've come up with a name. We think that people will remember and people will like. It's going to be terrible.
Starting point is 00:23:05 It's a friendly name. Susie, Susie Winfrey. I don't hate it. Susie Winfrey's fun. I thought it's going to be like Diane. Yeah. Judith. And then she sort of like in this question.
Starting point is 00:23:18 right she starts acting it out. Hi, Susie, very friendly. You can't be angry with Susie. Remember Susie? But my name wasn't Susie. And you know... It's not Oprah either. I'd grown up not really loving my name. Because when you're looking for a little name on the lunchboxes or the license plate tags, you're never going to find Oprah. Similar to Bort. No, Bort. You'll say Bort. We're out of Bort. License plates. But honestly, having a very vanilla name, I can tell you it's not all Sunshine or Rambos. You can always get Jessica, never Jess. Oh, right, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Jessica means I'm in trouble. I don't want it. You don't want to be in trouble on your lunchbox? No. Lunch is meant to be a happy time. It's a happy time. It was a sandwich in there. Sorry, man.
Starting point is 00:24:06 A Sammelwich. Thank you. I think every word could have one more syllable. Agreed. What's the lunch? A mitabal. I like to say sophomore. I say it.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Like, you know, like a, like Mario. A sophomore. Like a sophomore year. Which I can do as someone who is 116th Swiss Italian. And I can do it because I know someone who's 116th Swiss Italian. And I can do it because I know someone who knows someone. Thank you. I'll put you in touch.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Thank you so much. Yes, there's a more direct link. I don't see it. Okay. Okay. So Oprah goes on. So I grew up not loving the name. but once I was asked to change it, I thought, well, it is my name.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Do I look like a Susie to you? Not really. So I thought, no, it doesn't feel right. But what is a Susie? You know? That's such a good point. I was so quick to say no, but like what's a Susie? What's a Susie look like?
Starting point is 00:25:04 You know? Yeah. That's pretty deep, man. I mean, I would assume a child. It's a child's name. Susie? For a little tiny baby. Oh, I think of like Susie Quattro.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Oh, okay. That's my go-to, Susie. Mm. And is it Susie in the Banjys? No, that's, but that's a different, is that a different, Susi, Susi, sushi. You can use sushi. I'm thinking of sushi, thank you.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Another, but that's another old rock band, I think. Yeah. Is there, there's another, you know, Susie Q's also Susie Gautroy. Although, all I can think of is like 70s rock stars. Yeah. So she basically said, no, I'm going to keep my name. Yes, she said, so I thought, no, it doesn't feel right.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I'm not going to change my name. And if people remember it or not, that's okay. Great. And then they said they didn't like the way I looked. This was 1976, when your boss could call you in and say, I don't like the way you look. Now that would be called a lawsuit. But back then, they would just say, I don't like the way you look. So they sent me to a salon where they gave me a perm.
Starting point is 00:26:19 and after a few days all my hair fell out and I had to shave my head. And then they really didn't like the way I looked. But even worse than being bald, I really hated, hated, hated being sent to report on other people's tragedies as a part of my daily duty, knowing that I was just expected to observe when everything in my instinct told me that I should be doing something, I should be lending a hand. So she found it really hard to be doing news reporting because everything was so grim and she just wanted to help not just report on it.
Starting point is 00:26:51 She wanted to get involved. Yeah, that story about the hair was so wild. She tells it in a, it doesn't sound quite as fucked. But another way I read it was they were like, your hair's too thick. You got to go thin out your hair or change your hair. Which is like, it's just, yeah, fucked. And like you said, that would be a lawsuit now.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Yeah. But back then, they could just do that. Apparently, the Baltimore news anchors or whoever, not anchors, but the executive. So yeah, she was finding that part of the job really hard. She was only doing it for a matter of months, but according to entrepreneur.com again, she found that hard news wasn't really her forte.
Starting point is 00:27:33 She was deeply empathetic, and she had difficulty distancing herself from her work, often having to fight back tears while reporting stories that touched her, and unable to get past this emotional connection to her subjects. She was fired. Which I guess makes sense. you never hear of news reporters cry. I mean, I'd like to watch that news more, I think.
Starting point is 00:27:53 You want to watch people cry. Oh, okay, good point. But I want them to go to a reporter who's at a tragic scene being like, like, this is awful and actually talking about it. Or, you know, it'd be fun if they were just like, it is. It's fucked. Hey, look at this. What the hell?
Starting point is 00:28:11 Yeah, it is interesting. Maybe you can't, maybe you can't have it like that. I would even just like it if they spoke in normal voices. Yeah. So I did an internship because I studied journalism. I did TV news for a week and just sort of shadowed them. And the reporters all have normal voices. One of them had this like very, she had quite a high sing-song kind of voice.
Starting point is 00:28:33 She spoke very slowly, you know, talking about her weekend. We're going to do this. And she was lovely. Then we get to the news and it's this morning, Darren. And I was like, what is happening? Just talk normally, you idiot. It's very strange that I think it's like trying to take any emotion out of the voice and trying to make all reporters sound the same, but it is a strange thing.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Yeah. Thanks very much, Darren. At about 10 o'clock this morning, a train arrived here at this station. And then she finished and goes, I'm hungry. You're going to hear your food? I'm like, what is? I don't know who you are. Jess, I don't want to alarm you, but you are very good at that voice.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Have you considered being a reporter? I studied journalism. Have you considered being a reporter? No, I found it really grim. I didn't like it. You're Australia's answer to Oprah. I have been saying that for a long time, and nobody will answer my emails. Who are you saying it to?
Starting point is 00:29:33 Dear Ida Butros, I think you'll find I am Australia's answer to Oprah. I'm Australia's answer to the question, Oprah? Yes. Jess please Okay Jess please is a fun show title What do I do on the show Who cares?
Starting point is 00:29:55 Work that out later You give the cars From Barry Burke of Berwick Thanks Barry Thanks Barry Thanks Barry So at this point Phil Donahue
Starting point is 00:30:10 Would you two remember this guy at all Phil Donahue He was apparently kind of started this format basically. The talk show host that went around and talked to people. Dr. Phil Donahue. This is pre-Drill, I will mention
Starting point is 00:30:24 the good doctor briefly later, but no, Phil Donahue, it was like a silver-haired man. The name rings a bell, yeah. And he'd go around. I think it was, it was obviously in the 80s, and he was the big show. It was a popular nationally syndicated talk show out of Baltimore,
Starting point is 00:30:40 and a Winfrey's station manager. Luckily, she had someone who was who could see her talents and could see that her caring about stuff might be a actually be a positive. For a human and for, you know, their job. Yes, exactly. So they wanted to create a version, a sort of a similar show to Phil Donoghue's show, but for the local market. So fortunately for Winfrey, this happened in 1977. She became the co-host of the Baltimore Morning Show.
Starting point is 00:31:09 And this is one of my favorite TV show names ever. People are talking. I love a show that just is what it says. What do we got on here? We're going to have people. But what would they be doing? Sitting. Okay, people are sitting.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I like this, but I reckon we can punch it up even further. People are talking. So if you could pipe down, people are talking. Okay? People are talking in here, boys. And I said you can share a packet of Jats and play your video games, but turn down, please. People are talking.
Starting point is 00:31:42 And what it sounds like... A great title. Winfrey kind of took what Phil Donahue was doing but just ended up making it her own and even and just taking it to another level in terms of popularity and that sort of stuff. At entrepreneur.com, Oprah had found her niche. Her uncommon ability to connect intellectually
Starting point is 00:32:01 and emotionally with a wide variety of topics made the show an instant success. I came off the air, she says, of her first show and I said to myself, this is what I should be doing. It's like breathing. People are talking, rocketed up the ratings chart, eventually becoming the... People are talking.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Eventually becoming the top show of its genre in the Baltimore market. And Winfrey's success attracted the attention of Chicago-based WLS TV, which offered her a chance to anchor the station's floundering talk show, I am Chicago. Or is that Am Chicago? I think it's Am. I think it's Am. We Am Chicago. Winfrey's earthy, down-home, comfortable. style, captivated audiences, and the show became an instant smash hit.
Starting point is 00:32:47 It bested even hometown boy Phil Donahue in the ratings and was quickly syndicated in 120 cities. Whoa. There's quite a, like a quick success. Hell yeah. How did Phil take that? His protege has taken over. Yeah, well, I don't know, but I imagine probably not great, or maybe he did, maybe loved it.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Great imagination there, maybe. I love that. Maybe somewhere in between. Really? Maybe a real mixed feeling. Maybe it was fine about it. Yeah, maybe there is a part of you that's like, oh, that's, you know, never feels nice to be overtaken, but at the same time, you know, a young voice,
Starting point is 00:33:24 the next generation. Yeah. Maybe nobody told him. Maybe he's still on air now. Yeah. The camera's been switched off for decades. He does not know. Phil.
Starting point is 00:33:33 But he turns up 6 a.m. every day, does his show? Phil, it's time to go home. I wonder when, yeah, so I vaguely remember the show in the 90s, Phil Donahue, but let me see. He's still alive at 85. Wow. Go Phil. On your Phil.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Go, Phil. You've got Phil up on your phone, do you, Dave? Yeah. Can I see? I don't... I must say, I personally don't recognise him, but... Sorry, it's loading his photograph. Oh, this is so embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:33:59 So the Phil Donahue show, it ran to 1996. Oh, wow. So... Rout. Oh, wow. It just reminds me of being sick from school. Yeah. You know, you're homesick.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Oh, I'd rather be sick. I'd rather be at school than have to be forced to watch this. Which photo did you see though, Jess? Was it him as an old man? Yes. I think he looks, he didn't, that's not how I wouldn't have recognised him there either. As a young man, he didn't look like an old man. He had just like a great, look at that hair and the big goggles.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I mean, you said, did you see him as an old man? I mean, he started as an old man. And you've shown me a picture of an old man. No, that's, I mean, that's him as like a 50-year-old. The difference between those two photos is one of them, He's like a proper press photo, so his hair's combed. And in the other one, it's just looking a bit shaggier in the hair. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I don't recognise him in the more modern photo at all. That's the big glasses that I think I remember more than anything. Fantastic goggles. I don't think I recognise him at all. And a haircut you could set your watch to. He's got a full trophy cabinet as well, 20 Emmy Awards. Wow. So.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Well, he was a game changer. Pretty good. He invented the game. Good for Phil. On your Phil. On your Phil. He's my first. favorite Phil.
Starting point is 00:35:13 People are talking. Well, I mean, that's the only thing I think that stopped him from being the king still, is he didn't get that sweet name. Yeah, 100%. So, according to Britannica, Winfrey's honest and engaging personality quickly
Starting point is 00:35:31 turned the program, this is AM Chicago, AM Chicago. I'm Chicago. It quickly turned the program into a success. And in 1985, It was renamed the Oprah Winfrey show. Syndicated nationally in 1986, the program became the highest rated television talk show in the United States and earned semi several Emmy awards. Semi is what I say for several Emmys.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Sometimes I add levels, sometimes I take it out. Because it comes up that often. Yeah. My semi. Phil is also semi with 20 Emmys. Yeah. Yes. So, Phil and Oprah, a couple of semis.
Starting point is 00:36:08 What year was it that the, it was. That's when they talk about. semi-trailers. That's how big they need to be to keep all their awards in. Wow. Yeah. That's incredible. What year was it that it was renamed to the Oprah Winfrey show? It was at 85.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Wow. Cool. So she's taken off. Yes. And in that same year, I didn't know about this stuff at all. But in 1985, Winfrey scored a role in Stephen Spielberg's adaptation of the novel, The Color Purple. She played the role of Sophia, and her on-screen husband's name was Harpo. And during the auditioning process, Oprah apparently told Spilberg,
Starting point is 00:36:44 Harper was Oprah backwards. Hmm, maybe that's a sign you should hire me. Love that, love that. And that's why I always go for roles alongside my on-screen husband, Sed. Wow, Sedg. Spielberg, I think. Come on, you know what this means. Tam, Tammy, a little luckier there.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Evad. Evad. Evad, that's right. Yep. I saw her telling that story on when she was on Letterman at that time, in 86. Oh, wow. Her performance was critically acclaimed, scoring. So she's come up with, no, as far as I know, no real acting experience to this point.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Other than her speech and drama studies. Well, yes, okay. But yeah. But it was like news reading and talk show hosting. Quite different. And then, yeah, she was nominated for Best Supporting Actress at the Golden Globes and Academy Award. Wow. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Awesome. That blew my mind. Soon after the Oscars, Oprah hosted Saturday Night Live. I watched the opening monologue of it this morning. And it was quite funny. She did it as a bit of a two-hander with, oh, fuck, what I start saying this one? I can't remember the guy's name.
Starting point is 00:38:02 He was like the rival wedding singer in the movie The Wedding Singer. Oh, I know that guy. He's losing his mind. John Lovett. John Lovett. Yes, well done. We'd be good at one of those games. We should form a trivia team.
Starting point is 00:38:18 What would I contribute? That is that that question. The trivia host gets up there and goes, all right, I'm going to do an impression. I'm the rival in the wedding singer. And Matt and I are like, hoo-hoo, and you're like, John Lovitz. Okay, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:38:35 But how strange was this? Oprah Winfrey, right? Everyone knows Oprah. Everyone knows how to say it, but I'm watching it. And the announcer goes, ladies and gentlemen, Oprah Winfrey. It was strange there was a time that people didn't know how to pronounce a name, but also strange that there's a time where the host of a show... Didn't do his research? Didn't know how to pronounce the host of the show's name. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I'd get that run out. I mean, some could say I'm throwing stones from a glass house, but, yeah, Justin... Maybe he skipped his sophomore. year that guy. Maybe. Then in 1986. Joke nasty.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Sophomore. Sophomore. Sophomore. It's not sophomore. It's not sophomore. I would have, if you both weren't so sure, I would have kept a little
Starting point is 00:39:29 glimmer of hope that I... Honestly, I am not 100% on it. It's funny, just yesterday, I was catching up with a mate and we're remembering how one time, after a few beers, I lost five bucks to him because I was so sure it was pronounced orangutan.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Wait, no, Aranutangang. That is how it's pronounced. I had the G at the end rather in the middle. And I'm like, a lot of people think it's in the middle, but it's actually, you know, I was really... You were really doubling down. Okay. What have I told you?
Starting point is 00:40:05 But I just looked it up on Google. The American pronunciation is listed as Saffmore. Oh my God, so I wasn't... Sophomor. Sophomor. Yeah. But the British pronunciation, in fairness, too, Matt,
Starting point is 00:40:17 is listed as having three syllables. Suffermore. Oh, okay. Oh, fuck. Because I was having a real Mandela effect sort of moment. I'm like, I have lost it. That's interesting. I've never heard.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Doesn't that show how much British media Media, I can chew on how much American. Interesting, but I've never, like, we don't use that word really in Australia. So I've only heard it in media. Yeah, I'm sure. I reckon I hear it, sometimes you'll hear, like, their sophomore album and stuff like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Does that mean your second album? Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. But that makes way more sense that it can be pronounced both ways. Yeah, interesting. Normally it'd be the opposite. Normally America would pronounce it phonetically.
Starting point is 00:41:05 and Britain would pronounce it strangely. Yeah, they'd pronounce it Wushter or something. Worched. It's going to be Wushter year. You're like, I don't get you, people. You haven't been a language, but you say it all wrong. They've been turning in his grave. I know Australians probably shouldn't arc up about pronunciation.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Well, Matt, I do want to apologise. And I didn't, I didn't, you know, consciously call you out on it. I just giggled a little bit. So it turns out we're both right. And that's the best possible scenario. You really, wait. You felt you, I can tell that you felt bad for laughing. Yeah, no, I just, I just looked away.
Starting point is 00:41:51 But when looking away, I made eye contact with Dave, and that was like, well, now I'm really. Because I was also very prepared to let go maturely as I am. And I just hope that a few tweets have just been deleted. That's what I'm saying. Withdrawn, cheerfully. There's geeseers tweeting, like, it is sophomore, right? It's sophomore, you bloody geese.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Whatever. Whatever. Come on. We're just having fun here. Go have a cupper. I'm in my second year. What's the universe? Go put a brew on.
Starting point is 00:42:23 All right. Americans, have a bloody cup of Joe. We know about culture. We get it. We get it. We'll put a billy on the boil. Everyone relax. The way that you.
Starting point is 00:42:35 you do in your culture with us is obviously a billy or the boil. We've all got billies. And boils. Very painful. It's to walk. Mine are on my butt. Worst place to have a billy or a boil.
Starting point is 00:42:55 All right. So, in 1986, Oprah started a TV production company naming it Harpo Productions, which of course is Snoit Kudorp, Oprah. backwards. For a second I thought either you or I were having some kind of medical emergency.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I was like, oh no, what's happened to my brain? So Harpo was at a lot of success. So I had heard that that Harpo was Oprah backwards. I didn't realize that it was also the name of her on-screen partner in one of her big acting roles. I didn't know she, I didn't really know she acted much. Yeah. And I thought maybe like Ricky Lake like we saw in one of our episodes of Frasing the Bar, had acted a little bit as well.
Starting point is 00:43:46 There was a time where talk show host just got big acting jobs in Hollywood. I think Ricky Lake was an actor, then became a talk show host. Yes, yes, that's right. I knew that Oprah had her own sort of production company, but I didn't realize she'd started it so early. Yes. That feels early in her career. It's like backing yourself, but also bloody, already succeeding,
Starting point is 00:44:06 just from the get-go. It's awesome. I can't really understand it. She just was so undeniably talented that she got a scholarship, then she's getting a news reading job at 19, and then even though she was showing a bit of emotion, when talking about brutal things. And then she, you know, she reinvented the talk show genre.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Incredible. Yeah. But then she started this production company, and with it, has produced acclaimed films like Precious, which was nominated for many Academy Awards, including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress. Harpo also produced Selma, a film that chronicled Dr. Martin Luther King Jr's march from Selma to Montgomery, Alabama, to secure equal voting rights. Apparently, Oprah became involved in Selma after working with its star David O'Yellow Wo on another film, The Butler.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And the two got on so well on that when O'Yolow asked for Oprah's help in getting Selma made. She said she'd do whatever she could to help. So apparently they were getting on real well She was playing his mom on screen She's great in that I totally forgot about that But I remember watching it going Fuck, she's good
Starting point is 00:45:23 Yeah Isn't that why? Yeah, amazing And then So yeah, I've just been watching this stuff since I'm like Holy shit, she really can act Yeah, she really can And yes
Starting point is 00:45:34 So they were hanging out And he's like, We're trying to get this film made I think I'm born to play Martin Luther King and he'd done one of the famous speeches, filmed himself in character and showed her. And apparently she was like, it's good, it's good, it's not quite there, but it is really good.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I think we can work on this and can make it happen. He's like, can you please be involved? I'll produce or something. She's like, what will it involve? And he's like, you know, just help me getting it made. She's like, I'll do whatever I can. Wow. Yeah, so really, I don't think it would have been made without her.
Starting point is 00:46:07 On a side note, Oprah's acting in the butler was critically acclaimed also. received multiple nominations for acting awards, including at the BAFTAs and the Screen Actors Guild Awards. So it makes sense that as well as producing Selma, Oprah also appeared on screen as Annie Lee Cooper, which Vanity Fair called The Smartest Bit of Cameo Casting of the Year. Okay. It's a funny way to phrase it, but Cooper, the woman she played was a real-life civil rights activist, who is best known for punching Alabama Sheriff Jim Clark. And so it's a great scene in the film.
Starting point is 00:46:43 This is this great website, Wikipedia.org. Oh, yeah? Summarizes the story of Annie Lee Cooper punching Sheriff Jim Clark. In January, 1965, Cooper, who was 54 at the time, stood in line for hours outside the Dallas County Courthouse to register to vote until Sheriff Jim Clark ordered her to vacate the premises. Clark prodded Cooper in the neck with a Billy club. She's there trying to get involved in democracy. So the cop comes and is jabbing this middle, a 54-year-old woman in the neck with a club,
Starting point is 00:47:23 and she turns around and popped him in the jaw, knocking him to the ground. Deputies then wrestled Cooper to the ground as Clark continued to beat her repeatedly with his club. Cooper was charged with criminal provocation, and was escorted to the county jail and then held for 11 hours before being allowed to leave. She spent the period of her incarceration singing spirituals
Starting point is 00:47:47 and some in the sheriff's department wanted to charge her with attempted murder. Okay. Following to the guy who beat her with a... Yeah. Following this incident, Cooper became a registered voter in her home state. So she... This was a big incident and it started to turn some of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:06 So, I mean, this is a whole different story. But before this time, it was, you weren't allowed to, segregation was illegal in America, but some states were still sort of finding ways to make it happen. They were making it brutally hard for black people to register for vote. They'd just make up extra hurdles that they wouldn't for white people. And yeah, so, yeah, it's a great story. And that's like a whole other topic. But I just did Oprah in the movie, does she punch?
Starting point is 00:48:36 Yeah, she was, it's not like a full sock-em, but it's, yeah, she gets him to the ground. It's beautifully shot. And I just think the direction's so good in that film. So obviously you'd think a big film, critically acclaimed, the director's going to be nominated for best direction at the Oscars. That is not the case. Hardly, they were hardly nominated for any Oscars, even though there was real Oscar buzz about the film. It's a classic film that would get Oscar buzz, a biopic. like that that was done so well, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:49:09 But it was only nominated for two Oscars, the best picture, which is the big one, obviously, and best original song, which it won. But everyone was expecting, or most people seemed to be expecting that it would be nominated across most of the major categories. And people were like, this is very strange. What a strange snub.
Starting point is 00:49:26 And then a few years later, according to insider.com, the actor I was talking about before, David Oilo, said that one of the reasons why his 2014 movie Selma only received two Oscar nominations back in 2015 was because members of the Academy Awards didn't like that he and the cast wore,
Starting point is 00:49:46 I can't breathe shirts to the movie's premiere. So they're doing a film about a classic civil rights moment and they were, you know, part of a one at the time, and the members of the Academy apparently didn't like that. At the time, the article goes on, At the time of the movie's release in December of 2014, there were nationwide protests over the death of Eric Garner, who that July was killed after a white New York City police officer
Starting point is 00:50:14 administered a chokehold on him as officers tried to arrest him. Cell phone footage, which later went viral, showed Garner saying, I can't breathe over and over again. He later died on the way to the hospital and a medical examiner called his death a homicide, with the report specifying that the compression of Garner's chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police led to his death.
Starting point is 00:50:36 The white police officer was not indicted by a grand jury. So the cast, as well as Selma director Ava DuVernay, wore the shirts in support of the protests. Very, very peaceful protest, just wearing a shirt with a message on it. Oya Loa told Screen Daily,
Starting point is 00:50:55 Screen Daily is the publication. Members of the Academy called into the studio and our producers saying, how dare they do that? Wear the shirts. why are they shit stirring and we are not going to vote for that film because we do not think it is their place to be doing that.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Members of the Academy apparently called the production studio and said that. And let's remember that... In 2014. Yeah, the members of the Academy an incredibly diverse group of people. Yeah, that's what I don't want about... I say people, not just men, obviously.
Starting point is 00:51:25 They're all old, what, dudes? Very diverse. But all different ages ranging from 60 to 85, I think. A real finger on the pulse, I would say, of the academy. So, yeah, it is a bit surprising that they wouldn't feel comfortable with that. The quote goes on. It's part of why that film didn't get everything that people think it should have got, and it berth the hashtag Oscars So White.
Starting point is 00:51:55 They use their privilege to deny a film on the basis of what they valued in the world. So yeah, I don't, I didn't know any of that story. And he only talked about that quite a few years later. But yeah. How ridiculous. I think after it came out and the director of the film retweeted a link to that. And then the Academy Awards Twitter said, we hear you.
Starting point is 00:52:21 We're working on it or something like that. Oprah through Harpo Productions has also produced many hit TV shows So there were those big hit films, critically acclaimed films On the other end of the spectrum Has produced many hit TV shows, Maybe not so critically acclaimed. Apart from her own show, the Oprah Winfrey show, She also has done a show called Dr. Phil
Starting point is 00:52:49 And a show called The Dr. Oz Show. Oh, yes. Dr Phil is a talk show starring the titular Dr. Phil. Yes, not a doctor. Oh, that's what we're going to talk about. Dr. Phil rose to prominence as a regular guest on Oprah Winfrey's show. Then in 2002, Oprah and Phil teamed up to create his own show, which still runs today, apparently. It's just been renewed until at least 20, 23.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Whoa. I didn't think it was still going. No, me either. So I vaguely remembered what you were just referring to there, Jess, that there was some controversy about whether or not Dr. Phil was an actual doctor or just a plain Phil. So I found this article on distractify.com, which asked the question, is Dr. Phil a real doctor? What's his last name? McGraw.
Starting point is 00:53:31 McGraw. Of course, thank you, yes. Luckily, yes. You had that locked and loaded. Did you Google him or do you just know that? It's Dr. Phil McGraw, yeah. I mean, that doesn't really answer the question. Did you know that or not?
Starting point is 00:53:43 It's Dr. Phil McGraw, yeah. No, I did know. I do. I'm a big fan. I want Dr. Phil. Google it or did you know it? Dr. Phil McGraw. MD.
Starting point is 00:53:53 That's just my go-to answer for everything and suddenly come in handy. It always seemed weird when you said it before now. That makes sense. And what did you say in him? Dr. Phil McGraw. Okay. Or one word? Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:08 So luckily the distractify article also answered their own question. And this is what they wrote. The answer to this question depends on what you mean by doctor. Okay. If you're wondering whether he's a physician, the answer is no. Dr. Phil has never been licensed as a physician in any state. However, he is a doctor of philosophy in that he has a PhD. He received his degree from the University of Northern Texas in 1979 and obtained his license to practice psychology in Texas. But in 1988, after two complaints
Starting point is 00:54:40 of misconduct, one of which alleged sexual advances towards the patient, the Texas State Board of Examiners of Psychologists launched an investigation into his practices. After they were unable to find any reference to physical contact, Dr. Phil fulfilled the board's requirements. With a PhD. For the PhD. Fulfilled the board's requirements so as to have his complaint filed close in 1990. Dr. Phil no longer holds a license to practice psychology, though. After more complaints from patients emerged and put his ability to practice psychology at risk,
Starting point is 00:55:18 Dr Phil voluntarily surrendered his Texas license in 2006 and no longer holds a license to practice psychology of any kind in the United States. This has been an ongoing controversy in the clinical psych world, with many psychologists questioning whether his TV program violates the law by offering the services of a psychologist. For reference, practicing psychology without a license in California, where his show films, is a felony. But it appears that Dr. Phil has covered. his own legal tracks by asking guests to sign paperwork that states they are only receiving advice rather than counselling on the program.
Starting point is 00:55:57 On the Today Show in 2008, the Celebrity Doctor said he has made it very clear that his current work does not involve any clinical practices and that he had retired from psychology. Do you reckon that it is very clear that he's retired from psychology? When the show is called Dr. Phil. Yeah, but the doctor is silent. It's Phil. And his surname is... McGraw.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Okay. Tell my girl. Don't know. Yeah, so I don't know why I went into all that on an Oprah thing, but I just thought it was interesting. And that is one of her big successes on TV. Fantastic. Now, onto Dr. Oz.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Okay. I'm glad you asked. I just did nothing. I'm like, I've got to now check if Dr. Oz is a real doctor. Is Dr. Oz a doctor? And according to the L.A. Times, he is saying. Because he wears scrubs, right? Yes, he wears.
Starting point is 00:56:43 He wears a stethoscope. He really leans in. That one, I don't think that ever made it over here. The Dr. Phil was on TV a lot, but is Dr. Oz on over here? I've seen bits of... Sometimes. And now it's in a show called The Doctors, maybe, where he's one of the lead guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:57 But it's always on when I'm at the gym. Right. And I think they all wear scrubs. So Dr. Oz... That's so funny. They all wear lab coats. Is here... According to the LA Times, he's an accomplished cardiac surgeon with degrees from two
Starting point is 00:57:11 Ivy League universities. Okay, so he's really qualified. But it does go on to say, what do real doctors have to say about the advice dispensed on the Dr. Oz show. Well, less than one third of it can be backed up by even modest medical advice. Wow. Less than one third. If that sounds alarming, and this is from the LA Times, which I assume is a legit paper.
Starting point is 00:57:31 If that sounds alarming, consider this. Nearly four in ten of the assertions made on the hit show appeared to be made on the basis of no evidence at all. That is terrifying. Isn't that wild? Dr. Nick is... How do you get away? And you know, like... Scrubs is quite often regarded as one of the most accurate medical shows.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Like they're very, they consulted doctors and stuff in the writing, I believe. Which doctors are they consult? Dr. Oz? Dr. O'S? Okay. So now, I would say you'd be better off just watching Scrubs than watching Dr. Oz. I'd say, even better than that, go see an actual doctor. Oh, that's a great suggestion actually.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Yes, see a doctor. Yeah, who's going to give you some sort of specialized advice. Also, because I imagine, like, when you're on Dr. Phil or Dr. Oz, that's worked out weeks, if not months in advance. You don't just call up a clinic and they say, oh, actually, Dr. Phil's got a space later today. If you could just come down to the studio. Yeah. He'd be able to check you out.
Starting point is 00:58:36 At the waiting room at the back of the studio. You walk out, people are applauding, like, what the hell is happening? What the hell? Oh, Dr. Phil McGraw. I thought Phil was the surname now that. this makes sense. Dr. McGraw will see you now. Well that might,
Starting point is 00:58:51 because Oz is the surname. Huh? I mean, Pick a, Pick a, what are you doing? His first name isn't Oz? No,
Starting point is 00:58:57 it's Mammett, I think. It's not Oz McGraw? What? I thought they're keeping in the family. Okay, all doctors aren't McGraw. I'll only see a doctor with a surname McGraw.
Starting point is 00:59:06 That was a cool name. Yeah, Mamet Oz. My doctor's name is Carol King. Really? Yeah. Tapestry? Pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:59:16 What a tapestry we weave, huh? Yeah. Does that mean anything? Yes. Anyway, back to Oprah. Enough of the oddball doctors. Yeah. Is Oprah a doctor?
Starting point is 00:59:27 Well, in some ways. Probably honorary somewhere, right? Surely. I'm going to, later on, just to, because you can't get through all of her achievements, I've got a couple of paragraphs about the award she's got and stuff she's got on. It's just, it's pretty hectic. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Anyway, opera, opera, fuck. What is this, Saturday Night Live? We wish. Not that it's good You better believe that they He practiced that all day long And then suddenly live from New York City It's Saturday night
Starting point is 00:59:57 It's live baby He doesn't have a second shot Opera Wimpre Furns off his mic Fuck Opa! Oprah has proved to be hugely influential in many different ways over the years
Starting point is 01:00:10 And this one I found really interesting It was her book club Yes This is according to Britannica She broke new ground in 1996 by starting an on-air book club. She announced selections two to four weeks in advance and then discussed the book on her show with a select group of people. Each book chosen quickly rose to the top of the bestseller charts
Starting point is 01:00:29 and Winfrey's effect on the publishing industry was significant. Apparently, I think it was in another article that said that even books with similar names got a big boost in sales. Oh, wow. Isn't that amazing? The cat on that. I'm assuming Cat the Hat was in Oprah's Brook Club. Oprah's efforts came with some criticism, according to The Guardian.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Her critics sneered at her populist choices, though she has also recommended books by Tolstoy and Faulkner, but they ignore the fact that Oprah single-handedly persuaded millions of Americans to switch off their televisions and read a book. Government cannot do that. The Guardian wrote, Oprah can. Some authors did. and appreciate the publicity her show gave them. Author Jonathan Franzen
Starting point is 01:01:20 expressed reservations about Oprah choosing his work for a book club as it might put off male readers. So Oprah uninvited him from the show. What? Jonathan, it sounds like you're not ready to be a millionaire. I got into writing novels
Starting point is 01:01:36 for the art. I don't want to make any money from it. I want to connect with exclusively men. What a strange choice. Men, men. I'm trying to get my book on Dr. Phil. Britannica continues. Winfrey further expanded her presence in the publishing industry
Starting point is 01:01:54 with the highly successful launch of O, the Oprah magazine in 2000. In 1998, Winfrey expanded her media entertainment empire when she co-founded Oxygen Media, which launched a cable television network for women. In 2006, the Oprah and Friends channel debuted or debuted on satellite radio. She broke in a partnership with Discovery,
Starting point is 01:02:16 communications in 2008, through which the Oprah Winfrey Network, or Own, replaced the Discovery Health Channel in January of 2011. In 2009, Winfrey announced that her television talk show would end in 2011. It was speculated that she would focus on Own. The last episode of the Oprah Winfrey show aired in May 2011, and Oprah's next chapter, a weekly primetime interview program on Own, debut. in January 2012.
Starting point is 01:02:49 So it's pretty cool that because you know you're big when you have to let people down gently by saying two years out. Yeah. I'm going to retire from this show in two years.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Wow. Yeah, amazing. Which we will be doing with this podcast. We'll let you know. Two years out. We'll be retiring in 2050. 2050, baby.
Starting point is 01:03:09 We're giving you as much known as we can. Hopefully 30 years is enough. Probably some, I can hear how it's breaking right now. Yeah. Ow, my heart. In 2017, it was announced that Discovery was acquiring a majority share in Own, though Winfrey would remain involved in the channel.
Starting point is 01:03:27 That year, she also became a special correspondent for 60 Minutes, which aired on CBS. In 2018, Winfrey announced an agreement to produce content for Apple TV, and in 2020, she began producing and hosting the streaming talk show Oprah Talks. Wait, Oprah Talks COVID-19. In addition, she posted a two-part panel discussion, where do we go from here on own, to address the widespread anti-racism movement that arose after the on-video killing of George Floyd, an unarmed African-American man by police in Minneapolis, Minnesota. I'm still reading from the Britannica article here.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Winfrey engaged in numerous, so this is article, this is paragraph here just bangs off a few of the things she's been awarded and whatnot. Wow. Winfrey engaged in numerous philanthropic activities, including the creation of Oprah's Angel Network, which sponsors charitable initiatives worldwide. In 2007, she opened a $40 million school for disadvantaged girls in South Africa. She became an outspoken crusader against child abuse and received many honours and awards from civic, philanthropic and entertainment organizations. In 2010, she was named a Kennedy Center Honoree, and the following year, she received the
Starting point is 01:04:44 Gene Herschalt Humanitarian Award from the Academy of Motion, Picture and Arts and Sciences. In 2013, Winfrey was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom. She won the Cecil B. DeMille Award, a Golden Globe for Lifetime Achievement in 2018, and her impassioned speech in which she called for racial and gender equality was widely seen as one of the ceremony's most memorable moments. And if you remember it, it sort of kicked off this thing where people were like, Oprah should be the president. They have a really big thing.
Starting point is 01:05:15 People really wanted to. That speech, you should be running the country. Yeah. And in the end, I think, I don't know how much she considered it, but it seemed like it was a genuine possibility for a little while there. Wow. So I knew she was a media mogul, but I didn't know anything about the acting and how much.
Starting point is 01:05:32 I knew she was like rich and had production stuff, but so much stuff. I didn't know about it, any of that stuff. It's so nice when you see people just become incredibly wealthy. But then spend a lot of it helping other people. Yes. You know, that's very nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I tell myself, if I ever got mega wealthy, I would still be living in a pretty normal house and trying to do as much as possible for other people. But I think it's also like, where do you start? How do you build a school in South Africa? How does that happen? Who do you speak to? Yeah, amazing.
Starting point is 01:06:09 And I mean, maybe to her $40 million isn't even that much. She's like, a-choo, oh, $40 million. Well, I'm about to say what a recent estimate of her wealth is. And if that's true, she's been holding on a bit of it. It's got to start in the B's, I reckon. Yeah, there's a B in there. So, yeah, also amazing. And all of her business acumen and how she just had a lot of success with that.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I know there were ups and downs. You know, there were failures in there as well. But way more wins. So, do you want to have a guess? Whenever we do these guesses for money, the guess is always way too high, and it's like, oh, no, it's actually not that much. I'll just say it.
Starting point is 01:06:52 So the CEO magazine... 8,000 million billion. The CEO magazine, late last year, estimated her wealth at 2.6 billion US dollars. Correct. You were spot on. Spot on. Wow.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Wow. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of cash. Yeah. That's a lot of bread, as the Americans would say. A lot of mullah. I love bread. I also googled. The soft rock band. Baby I'm a want you. Baby I'm a need you. They also love to add syllables.
Starting point is 01:07:27 That's me to sing to my bread. I also googled. That makes sense. Baby I'm a need you. That works. Sorry, Dave, what do you Google? Does you have any doctorates? Yes. She has not one, not two, not three, but at last count from Business Insider, four honorary doctorates making her probably to ask more of a doctor than Dr. Phil McGraw. That's incredible.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Not surprising at all either. I want an honorary doctorate. Wow. Any listeners out there if they have that power. Give me one. Give me. Go on, give me. Go on.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Go on. Please. So what an absolutely incredible life. So how old is she now? She's 57, I believe. She's born in 54. What's it like to be her for one day? God.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Wake up. She's so smart. Knows everyone. Has so many plans. Maybe a little bit less is happening now than at her peak. But at her peak, imagine waking up, what a bit, what a life. I think it's funny also to think maybe I've gone early on a report on her life. Probably, like.
Starting point is 01:08:37 She's not done. Yeah. Like she's still like the Harry and Megan interview. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, a couple months back, yeah. And like in the research, you know, when you'll get, um, suck in alerts from, I don't know, my phone does it anyway. I've got news for things you've been searching.
Starting point is 01:08:54 And there's been a big interview with Elliot Page that's, um, been big in the news recently as well. Yeah. So, yeah, Oprah's just like always super relevant and in the news. Um, from the Guardian. It says, Oprah recalls watching her grandmother. So really the first parent, full-time parental guardian, her grandmother. She remembers recalling, watching her grandmother hunched over a basin and washing white people's clothes.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Her beloved granny would tell her that the secret of success in her life would be to work for some good white folks, just like she did, who allowed her to take the leftovers from their dinner table. Oprah says, I regret my grandmother did not live to see, I've got some good white folks working for me. Does she feed them from a dinner table? Yeah, she lets them have the scraps. That's good. Another thing I was going to talk about a bit was her, she had a long feud with David Letterman, but I haven't gone into that at all.
Starting point is 01:10:02 It's quite funny in parts. And I think I want to do that as my next Patreon bonus report. The feud. Yeah. I don't know anything about that. Yeah, I had no idea. Yeah, it was, I think it was maybe a bit one-sided. Anyway, I'll look into that more and talk about that next month on the patron and bonus episode.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Fantastic. So that was my report on Oprah Winfee, and like we always say were these biographies for, you know, people, wildly successful people. So much stuff that was missed out. I'm sorry if your favourite Oprah anecdote does not mention. Just can't fit it all in. But a lot in there that I had, I did not know anything about. Yeah, me either. That was really interesting.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Thank you, Matt. Hey, thank you for listening. Hey, congratulations. Thank you so much. Thanks, Matt. This was my Oprah Winfrey moment. Do I get a car? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Is it the one I came here in? Yeah. It's better than no car. Check your pockets. Are there keys in there? No, they're in my bag. One second. Okay, do you want me to get my keys out?
Starting point is 01:11:09 my bag and then you can put it in my pocket. That feels weird. Have a little Russell on your bag. I think you'll find there's a set of keys to a car in there. There is. Well, that's yours. And it already has my house key on there as well. Maddox fast.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Very, very fast. Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite segment of the show, the fact quote or question section. The way this one works is you get involved at patreon.com. Do Go On Pod or do go onpod.com and you sign up on the Sydney-Shineberg level. There's a bunch of different levels, different prices and different sort of rewards. Bonus episodes, we do three a month amongst other things. Like you get to vote on what the topics we do and all sorts of fun stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:12:00 There's a Facebook group where people, beautiful community in there and other such things. But this one that we're kicking off with today is. the fact quote or question section, which I think has a little jingle to go something like this. Fact quote or question. He always remembers the ding. Got to say,
Starting point is 01:12:18 it's great to be back in the room together for this. Yeah, it's all gone solid last few weeks. It sucks so much. I didn't do it because I couldn't talk, to be fair. Okay, that's a pretty good excuse.
Starting point is 01:12:28 How convenient. You lost your voice. I'm actually, I think I'm losing it. Oh, no. Matt, do you want to take this over? So first up, our first fact quote of question, And it comes from Dave, you'll always help me with the pronunciation of his name.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Jacoby, Austin, D'Angel. The Angel. The Angel. And Jacoby has given himself the title. Everyone gets to give themselves a title. He's his writer, director, actor, producer, executive producer, cinematographer, editor, Gaff, script supervisor, location manager, set decorator, art director, sound mixer, costume designer, boom mic, mic, operator, caterer, and of course, best boy of the do-go-on movie.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Wow. I've got to say, Jacoby, you've got to learn. to delegate, man. Come on. We've said this before. It'll help you. It'll help you. You'll be able to focus more on being your best, best boy.
Starting point is 01:13:19 You're stressing me out. If you give up that location, man, to roll. And I'm the talent. The talent should never be stressed. I assume I'm the talent in the do-go-one movie. Yeah, I wonder. Oh, wait, are other people playing us? You're an advisor, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Oh, we're just like consultants? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh, I don't like that. I still get to catch a big check. Oh, okay. Yeah, I thought you'd like that. Get Jessica Beal to play me. She's beautiful.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Awesome. Who's going to play you, Matt? Conan O'Brien. Fantastic. Dave? Bashim? If Bashim is available, we'll take him. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:55 If not. Patrick Schwarzenegger. Thank you. Fantastic. Okay, so here is Jacoby's fact. Unfortunately, the production of the Duguan movie has been put on hold and the set has been evacuated due to COVID-19. Damn it.
Starting point is 01:14:13 So I'll go with a non-movie related fact and a bit of a question this time around. I'm writing this week out for my birthday, April the 14th. So that's not too long ago. Which is also the day that Abe Lincoln was assassinated. The Titanic hit the iceberg. Thomas Edison played the first movie on his kinetoscope. Like the Soviet space dog disintegrates upon Rienta. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:14:39 upon re-entry and Sputnik 2. And John, that's a grim fact. And John Steinbeck published his seminal work, The Grapes of Wrath. Real depressing birthday, said. That's an amazing date, though. There was lots of other cool stuff too, but no time to list them all. What are some interesting things happen on your birthdays? Wikipedia.org and other sites have big lists for every day of the year.
Starting point is 01:15:04 The only one I know off the top of my head is that it's also McCauley Colkin's birthday. Mine's also Shania Twain and Jack Black's birthday. Oh yeah, you've got good birthday buddies. I forget that. That's great. Oh, yeah, I'm pretty sure. Mine's pretty, I don't think I have anything. I don't think anything's happened for me.
Starting point is 01:15:20 That's also my parents' wedding anniversary. Your birthday? Yeah. That's nice. Wow, that was a busy day for them. Yeah, certainly overshadowed them as a child. Did, was it pre or post ceremony that she gave birth? Oh, pre.
Starting point is 01:15:37 I share with Mother Teresa as well. So she could have had some drinks at the reception. And Melissa McCarthy. And Chris Pryor. Who? Chris Pine. Mother Teresa shares my birthdays. Oh, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:15:51 In 1884 and August 28, the first known photograph of a tornado was made in South Dakota. Wow. That's a big one. Geez, how'd you get that? How'd you get that? Thank you so much for that great fact and question Jacoby. The next one comes from Drew Foresberg, who's asking a question.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Drew has given himself the title of Arch Duchess of Smarch Muskets. Arch Duchess of Smarch Muskets. Oh, that's hard to say. Hard to listen to? Yeah. Drew writes this question, Have you ever experienced a coincidence outside of Artur Robert Vincers? Vince averse.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Okay, so this won't make any sense to you two. It barely makes sense to me. This is a primates reference. So we love the work of Robert Vince, directed films such as Most Vertical Primate, MVP 1-2, and M-XP, most extreme primate, as well as the ones about, he was involved in the dog ones.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Airbud. Big fan of Robert Vince. I think he's one of the greatest hauteers of the train series. He's amazing. You know you're watching. Robert Vince film. Because, yeah. So, but he, I think maybe Andy Matthews coined the term
Starting point is 01:17:10 co-incidence. Because they're just like, things happen in his films. Anyway, so let me just read this thing from Drew. He says, he thinks he has experienced some coincidences outside of the films of Robert Vince in the Vinceverse. But I'm not sure. I was on a trip with my parents.
Starting point is 01:17:34 and we just so happened upon my aunt and uncle whilst outside seeing. There was no coordination between the parties. We live in different cities and were staying in different towns on the trip. If we hadn't come across each other at that precise moment, the chance of a run at any other point seems incredibly low. We had a lovely time. I know that this was just a regular coincidence, but I wanted to be a cheeky bastard whilst referencing some of my favourite primates episodes.
Starting point is 01:18:02 I think you very much, Drew. Yeah, so I think I'm just trying to remember what the coincidences were. I think it's, you know, in films that are a bit loose, they say coincidences to get you into troubles, okay, but coincidences to get you out of trouble is kind of shitty writing. But I think the great man really flips that on its head. Oh, yeah. I think that's probably what we were referencing.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Have you ever experienced any coincidence? Or coincidences? Oh, no. If people want to go back and listen to the primates episodes about MVP, 1, 2 and MXP, all fantastic episodes. All with Andy Matthews and then also with Alastair Trumbly Birchall, I believe. It's hard on the spot to think of them. Yeah. Coincidence.
Starting point is 01:18:59 I've probably told this one before on the show, but I used to. to work as an air conditioning salesman. And at the same time, I was hosting breakfast TV, community TV in Melbourne. And so I'd go get up at 5 a.m., go to TV, and then go to do my job. And one time, one of the installers was installing one of the air conditioners that I sized up and sold. And the installers trying to figure out from the owner. who quoted the job was.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And he goes, I don't know. He's sort of like a lanky, sort of dopey guy. And then the installs like sort of seemed a bit stoned. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, actually, that's him there. And he pointed to the TV. I was on the TV at the time. He just happened to be watching Channel 31.
Starting point is 01:19:53 That is a coincidence of I've ever heard one. You wouldn't believe it if it was, you'd go, Robert Vince. Come on, mate. Yeah, come on. That's pretty silly. Even for you, Robert Vince. That's good. Yeah, but great question.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Thank you, Drew. And thank you so much for reminding me of Robert Vince. I don't think about him enough. Thanks for putting him back in my mind. Is he still out there making movies? I believe he is. He's got to be. What a guy.
Starting point is 01:20:18 He's created the whole university. What a guy! The next one comes from Julian Barnes, who's given himself the title. The guy at the live shows who goes, woo, really quietly, when he vaguely recognizes something that's, just been mentioned.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Hell yeah. And I've probably attacked you for it. No, he's real quiet. Woo. Julian has a question, which goes like this. I was recently listening to the high quality
Starting point is 01:20:46 and always entertaining phrasing the bar episode on the Patreon. Thank you so much. We appreciate that. Honestly, we don't get enough praise for the phrase in the bar. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:57 You know, please. If anyone likes praising the bar, Blah. Let us know September 10, come to the mummy. And this month's going to be Georgia the Jungle, which I'm excited about. Hell yeah. Do you think we should do a spin-off show about phrasing the bar called phrasing the blur? We just chat about episodes of phrasing the bar. We can just catch up if you want.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Like, it doesn't have to be in a podcast. If you just want to get a coffee, just let me know. We can just do that. And the microphones. We're on. In the coffee. Lucky for us. Shakespeare podcast.
Starting point is 01:21:31 called Praising the Bard. Shakespeare Appreciation podcast. Yeah? No. Okay. It would be a short one. Bit wordy for me. He's all right.
Starting point is 01:21:42 The end. End of pod. Julian goes on. So, was listening to Phrasing the Bard, just before the now and then episode, Jess mentions how much you love the film. After she's done the rewatch, she's unsure how well it's held up with time.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Can you think of any other movies you loved when you were younger, but watching now has made you. you cringe a bit. To answer my own question, I remember not another teen movie being in the absolute pinnacle of humor when I was a kid, but going back and watching it now,
Starting point is 01:22:10 it has me going, oof, every five minutes. Oh, that's interesting. I thought that was one that did kind of hold up all right. I watched that only a few years ago, and I'm like, I loved as a kid, and I reckon it's still, but I mean, maybe I shouldn't be saying that
Starting point is 01:22:23 based on every five minutes and oof. Oof. I reckon primates help deliver a few for me. Yeah, I'm sure. And so I was phrasing the bar. I think it was so funny as a kid. I also thought Ace Ventura was so funny as a kid.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Yeah. And neither of those held up. I think the problem with those ones can be that you remember it so fondly. So you've set your own expectations up high and then it doesn't meet those. But I think sometimes the nostalgia can carry it through a little bit too. Like Georgia in the jungle will be that. Yes. You know, probably not.
Starting point is 01:23:00 If I was watching it for the first time, I wouldn't be like, this is a masterpiece. And that's the case for like, Wayne's World. My partner's like, eh. Yeah, right. But he saw it as an adult where I saw it as like early teens
Starting point is 01:23:12 with my brother and it was like a bonding thing. So now I think it's very funny. I can't think of me. Hey, we're in Delaware. That's funny. That's good stuff. I think that holds up as a bit. Good stuff.
Starting point is 01:23:25 A show I mentioned earlier, Scrubs. I rewatched that maybe last year. and it's mostly okay but there are some parts that's like oh boy oh no like quite homophobic and pretty sexist
Starting point is 01:23:39 at times as well there was a sketch with Lorne Michaels and Oprah in her Saturday Night Live thing and that is a big ooh really? Yeah
Starting point is 01:23:50 yeah you can find it online yeah I think my one, I absolutely loved the Kevin Smith movie, Jane Silent Bob Strikes Back. And in year seven, that was the funniest thing I'd ever seen. Another Prime X episode. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Doesn't tickle me as much as it once did. Yeah, I think that happens a lot. And I mean, maybe it will, maybe it should. Like maybe it, because that at least means that we're moving forward. Yeah, comedy especially. It just doesn't take very well. Yeah. It's the kind of annoying thing about comedy is.
Starting point is 01:24:29 things aren't as, you know, it has to be current and it has to be, well, usually, some stuff holds up over a long time, but I'd say a vast majority of comedy just doesn't date well. Yeah. Not podcasts. No, not podcasts. Podcasts forever. Phew. We've got to be said some problematic things.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Episode two, though. We've got to keep going until 2050 people. The final fact quote of question today comes from Isakio, who's given themselves the title of official do-go-on podcast before session headphones, Sterolizing intern. Thank you. Very important gig. And we've got a...
Starting point is 01:25:05 I like to lick my headphones, so I like to know that they're clean. Isakio has given us a fact, and the fact is, unsterilized headphones will hamper you from reaching your podcasting potential. Thank God you have a dedicated intern to take care of this task. The podcast would suffer greatly in my absence. Got to go refill my heavily diluted bleach sprayer bottle. Catch you. Oh, bless.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Thank you. Thank you, Alarchio. Thank you so much. And it does make me feel a lot better to know you're there. Fantastic work. In the shadows. All right. There are fact quotes and questions.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Like I say, get involved at dogoonpod.com or patron.com slash dogoonpod and sign up on the Sydney Shambuicklux Memorial Edition level. But another thing we like to do is thank a few of our other long-term supporters who sign out up on a different level, the ask prod level, I believe, Dave. Is that right? I don't know why I still don't know which one this is, but... Get on the website. You'll be at it. It's ass prod.
Starting point is 01:26:06 It's ass prod. Okay, so, and Jess normally comes up with a little game based on the topic we just talked about. She does, and she forgot because it's been a while. Can we a head talk show? Yes. Yes, we're going to name your morning show. All right. I like this.
Starting point is 01:26:22 So first up, this shout out comes way, way late because, I accidentally thanked someone else two weeks in a row and ticked your name off the list. So apologies for this and thank you for getting in contact and letting me know my error. But from Hopetown in Victoria, I'd love to thank Emily Teesdale. Emily Teesdale. From Hopeton. Hopton. What's Emily's podcast called?
Starting point is 01:26:55 Podcast? Morning talk show. Morning talk show. is, I thought if I just started. What about like cooking with gas? Yeah, cooking with gas. Sponsored by a gas company. And co-host is Chips Magaskin.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Oh, yes, as we were talking about on a recent Patreon bonus episode, Chips. What a great name. Bring it back. Oh, I so regret not naming the dog Chips. That was a... Goose is a great name. Goose is pretty good. And it suits him. He's very silly. Chips. Chips.
Starting point is 01:27:30 It's funny, on her first appearance on Letterman, which was in 86, Latterman's like asking her about it. What is the show? A bit of cooking, that sort of stuff. She's like, no, I don't do any cooking. It's so funny. I'm like, has anyone researched? I know, have you done any research?
Starting point is 01:27:47 Who are you? What do you do? Is that how he used to do his interviews? But then I feel so you forget that, you know, that was just a show that was on at 1.30 a.m. You know, it's pretty loose. It's funny. It feels like it's got. kind of the vibe of a community TV show.
Starting point is 01:28:02 But with a budget. But like 8 million people watch it. Lots of people watching it. Thank you so much, Emily Teaser. Thank you so much for your patience. I'd also love to thank from Falkland in Fife in Great Britain, Rebecca Stephen. Rebecca Stephen, something about Fife, maybe? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Fife Up Your Life. Oh, yeah. Fife Up Your Life is fantastic. Oh, I like that. Fife Up Your Life. Life. That's fantastic. Yeah. So it's sort of a chat show and a bit of a like a life coach sort of show. A bit of an Oprah Winfrey type show. Exactly right. Only Rebecca Stephen is actually qualified. Yes.
Starting point is 01:28:43 That one of my favorite. Dr. Rebecca Stephen. One of my favorite Simpsons episode is the Jevidier-Sprungfeld episode where Homer walks into like the Springfield Historical Society. One, where's the five? Two, give me the five. That was great. That was when your band and your children are banned and your children's children are banned for 12 months. For three months.
Starting point is 01:29:08 For three months. And finally from me, I'd love to thank from Cattington in Bedfordshire in Great Britain, Gina Penning. Gina Penning. Penning Pell's. Penning pals. Is it like a letter writing show?
Starting point is 01:29:28 It's a letter writing show. And then Gina brings to it. together pen pals to meet in person for the first time. Oh, that's nice. That is nice. You go, wow. And also there's a little segment about how to improve your handwriting. And there's another segment about scrapbooking.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Yeah. This is a nice little aside. It's a beautiful aside. Yeah, it's a nice show. It's really wholesome. Thanks, Gina. Dave, would you like to thank some people as well? I sure would, Jess.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Thanks for asking. I would like to thank from. Well, David and I are fighting. I don't know if you could tell. Anyway, we keep the chemistry alive. I sure would. From Lafayette. Joke nasty.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Joke nasty. From Lafayette in Indiana, I would like to think Leah Friel. Freel and good. Oh, yeah, Freel and Good with Leah Friel. And it's a show where they use puppies to cheer people up. Wow, is it more every day? Yeah, there's just like, you know, that's still like an Oprah-like studio. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:31 But instead of floor, it's puppies. Oh, no. So you have to walk across the puppies? No, you're... I was imagining the audience would be puppies. No, no, you're lowered onto the puppies. Okay. Like Tom Cruise in that film.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Vanilla Sky. That would ain't funnier. Yeah. Hence I said it. Also, you're not much of a dog person, are you? No, this show is not for me. But I know that people love them And they get cheered up by puppies
Starting point is 01:31:05 They're fucking rural man They're okay Thanks Leah Friel I would like to thank from La Puente In California Abraham Gutierrez Abraham Gutierrez That's a fantastic name for starters
Starting point is 01:31:19 I absolutely love that Oof hosts the morning show Call Hamming it up. Hamming it up. With Abraham. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Now I see where that came from. And I like it even more. So it's sort of a lighthearted talk show where Abraham has guests on and they just shoot the shit. But it's all very light. They don't get anything too serious. It's just about, you know, hamming it up. Hamming it up. Does everyone get like a ham and cheese toasty on arrival?
Starting point is 01:31:52 No. No, there is no ham. That would what I mean? There shall be no ham here. He's a vegetarian. Spam, yes. The funnier meat. All right, now from Ireland in Gory.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Pretty cool. I would like to thank Owen Fitzpatrick. In gory. Gory holes. And it's where the guest comes in and they've got a person from their past. Yep. who is dead or alive on the other side of a wall and there's only a hole there.
Starting point is 01:32:31 There could be a corpse there. Yeah. That's where the goryness comes in. Right. And they've got to, all they can do is look through the small hole. Yep. And then decide.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Who it is. Who it is. So it's like this is your life. Yeah. But through gory holes. Yeah. It's not like, do you recognize this voice?
Starting point is 01:32:48 It's do you recognize this small part of someone from your life, dead or alive? Do you win a prize if you can identify them? No, they just use them to help tell the story of your life. So they're telling the story you're life. Right. And then obviously the dead guests don't talk a lot,
Starting point is 01:33:05 but the living ones will then come out and sort of add to the story a bit. It's really a gimmick. None of them have ever been dead. That'd be full on. They're always alive. Oh, that's good. Always alive. At time of recording.
Starting point is 01:33:17 The paperwork. That's right. Six thousand episodes and counting. The paperwork of having a dead person on TV is... Yeah. Nobody wants to do that. But the gory thing didn't really work without that. Yeah, it needs something.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Something, yeah. So they do, like, they slime people, like at the Nicolodeon Choice Awards. It's much like that. Can I thank some people as well? Yes, please. I would love to thank from Bradford in Great Britain, Jamie Chapman. Ooh, something in Chap. What about?
Starting point is 01:33:50 Dapper Chaps. Fucking hell. Dave, don't even try now. Yeah, that's pretty good. Dapper Chaps. I was going to go with something to do with Chapstick. No, Dapper Chaps, it is. But that could be involved.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Oh, okay, yes. You have to pity him. He had a shit suggestion. You had an amazing one. Come on, chapstick. So it's a chat show about grooming. Dapper Chaps, yes. Fashion advice.
Starting point is 01:34:14 What if he signs off the show with, don't forget to chap, and then he puts on some chapstick as the audience applauds. Yeah, and he says, Who's he? Nidal. Who's this person? personally. You talking about yourself?
Starting point is 01:34:27 Jamie Chapman. Oh, Jamie Chapman. No, Jamie Chapman hosts the show. He doesn't have to try out for the show. No, there's not tryout. It's just, that's just the catchphrase at the end of the show. I hate it. Don't forget to chap. No, Dave.
Starting point is 01:34:38 Why have you gone on negative? Because that's a terrible suggestion. I'm just being honest. I think, well, Dave, let's try it for the pilot. We'll see. I honestly think that that could become a big catchphrase. And like I said, the audience applauds. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:52 So at home, you know, they love it. Yeah. I mean, admittedly, there is a Walmart person going fucking applaud. And they turn the cameras around and the crowd are just sitting there. Stony face, but the applaud soundtrack is... But we assure Jamie that we'll fix it in post. Easy, no problem. Jamie's so disheartened, but you can't tell in post.
Starting point is 01:35:15 No. That's right. We will Photoshop a smile on that dial. I would also love to thank... Thank you, Jamie. I would love to thank from Whitehorse in Y.T. in Canada. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Yeah, young Tony. Young Tony. Young Tony's house. I'd love to thank Dave Rogers. Dave Rogers hosts a show called YT. People come on and explain why they love tea. Okay. It's Yukon.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Oh, Yukon. YT. Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it? I think it's Yukon Territory, maybe. Oh, okay. Yeah, that makes sense. YT. So, and the show, the format is you come out
Starting point is 01:35:57 say coffee, tea, and they always have to say, tea, please. Right. And then the host goes, well, why tea? And they tell a story about the first time they had a cup of tea with the great mum. And that could go anywhere from there. Beautiful.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Four hours, daily show. Okay. No ad breaks, no time. Okay. Don't want to miss any gold. Have you watched the, what's the show about the American God teaching the soccer team? Coaching the soccer team? Oh, Ted.
Starting point is 01:36:24 Ted Lassow? Ted Lassow. No, I haven't. He hates tea. It's like a running joke to it. He's like, I just, it's yuck water. I don't, it's a bit of fun. Great show, real nice show.
Starting point is 01:36:36 I think you might like it. Yeah, I've heard good things. And I, uh, I meant to check it out. So I will do that. Don't, I went in with lowish expectation. Luckily, after I saw it, I saw someone refer to it as a perfect show. Oh, okay. And it was not.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Right. There was, there were things. I'm like, wow, that character just totally changed for a sense. stuff like that, but. So you would have preferred the review An Imperfect Show? I like a really good show, but it's not a perfect show. It's perfect television.
Starting point is 01:37:07 That's one of my favorite things to say. Oh God, this is perfect television. As if I know anything. People are saying that about YT. Well, finally for me, I would like... White tea is my favourite. White tea is amazing. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:37:22 But one tea. And one guest says coffee. And they're like, oh. What the fuck? Why coffee? Why coffee? Honestly, why coffee? You fucked you.
Starting point is 01:37:34 They're like tapping the scent that has been letter saying why too. You signed an agreement. Finally, I would love to thank from South Yarra in Victoria, Izzy McGraw. Oh, Dr. Issy McGrawl? Izzy McGraw? Izzy McGraw. Getting quizy with Izzy. Oh, I love that.
Starting point is 01:37:55 That's quiz show. Is it a quiz show? Yeah, it's a morning quiz show. Thank goodness. It's a quiz show. Bad time. Why has no one thought of that before? Start your day with a bit of truth.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Yeah, people love trivia. Yeah, they're in all newspapers that have a quiz. People have sitting in a cafe. Yeah. Having a cup of tea. Why not sit in a cafe yelling at a television? Yeah. Could be sort of the craze that sweeps the nation.
Starting point is 01:38:17 Why hasn't anyone done this? Yeah. Well, Izzy has. Izzy has. On it, Izzy? Right, well, I'd love to thank one more time. Izzy, Dave, Jamie, Owen, Abraham, Leah, Gina, Rebecca and Emily. And was I right there with Ian?
Starting point is 01:38:35 No, Owen, E-O-I-N. You did that without even thinking about it, and I thought it was fucking badass, Dave. Oh, well, sometimes you just roll the dice. And the only people left to thank now are welcoming some people into the Trip Ditch Club. We've got two weeks worth of people to invite in because Jess is voiceless. Um, week last week meant that a few people have been standing in line. Luckily, it's a beautifully heated alleyway. Yeah, it's lovely.
Starting point is 01:39:03 Oh my goodness. It's like an indoor, outdoor area. Yeah. So, don't worry. Isn't it funny? Because there are people who aren't in yet who are still like, I mean, it's just nice out here. It's one of the few places that's actually nice to line up at.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Oh, yeah, for sure. But even they think that until they get inside. They're like, oh, that line was a piece of sheep compared to win here. Okay. Okay. So there are a few. We've got, uh, Dave. You ready for this?
Starting point is 01:39:26 Let me count them up. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. Nine inductees. Oh, my God. I had to do nine on my own two weeks ago. Yeah, I think I had something similar. Did you do some, uh, emceeing, piping? I think I, oh, I think I feel like I gave them all a fact.
Starting point is 01:39:46 No, that might have been someone else. I'm not sure. I'm not sure what I did. Maybe I did do that. Isn't that funny that I can't remember two weeks ago? Anyway. So, the way, if you. don't understand this part of the show, we
Starting point is 01:39:58 induct some people into the Triptitch Club. It's a club where people have been supporting us on the shoutout section. So I'm mispronounce one of those words? No, not at all, no. No. If they're on the shoutout levels for three years straight, you get inducted into the Triptitch Club, a beautiful
Starting point is 01:40:14 club where you, once you're inside, you get to really, it's like the Qantas Club or something like that. You get access to it whenever you need it. Yeah, whenever you need. We're there. And Jess normally is designing a cocktail and some hors d'oeuvres and Dave's booking a band. I'm standing out the front, the doorman, welcoming people in.
Starting point is 01:40:34 I've got the clipboard. I got the velvet rope ready to raise. You honestly have the easiest job. Should we switch jobs? Yes, please. All right. So you're going to, you bring them in. Oh, I don't want to do that.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Oh, you know, I can do that. And Dave can. Oh, are you fucking kidding me? Matt has to try and hype me up. Yeah, he'll be good at it, I reckon. All right, great. because usually he's not on board with my hyping. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Okay. Down to that one. Yeah, great. All right. So now what are the roles? So Jess is bringing in, I'm going to design a cocktail. Yes.
Starting point is 01:41:05 Based on over something. I can't remember any food related stuff for Oprah. Corn co. She had a corn cob doll. So we're going to have corn on the cob in the shape of dolls with little faces on them. And all our drinks are going to be corn-based, corn-based spirits in, cocktails. What's that bourbon?
Starting point is 01:41:25 Bourbon, maybe. So we'll have bourbon and coke. Nice. That's more, that sounds, is that an Aussie thing? No, that'd be an American Everyone. Everyone. That's something for everyone. And Dave, have you booked a band? Yes, we do have, we have Common and John Legend.
Starting point is 01:41:43 Teaming up who won the Academy Award for their song, Glory, in the film Selma, produced by Oprah One Free. Was that interesting how I guess they weren't in the cast who were involved in that protest. So maybe, yeah, it's very strange. That whole thing about how they just did not get voted for because, anyway.
Starting point is 01:42:01 So stupid. But they're also performing their own hit, strong legend, and common. Oh, yeah, great. So it'll be a great night. Great night. A lot of fun. All right, well. I was watching a film the other night with common in it.
Starting point is 01:42:13 What was it? Can't remember. It doesn't matter. Okay. Thank you for that fun fact. Are you ready? Ava. It was not very good. All right.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Are you ready to hype? Yes, I'm ready to hide. I've made it look easy because everything done well looks easy. I mean, if we're all swapping roles, should Matt be hyping and I should be hyping him. Should he be hyping? Yeah, he's the hype person. Oh, I see. For the inductees and then I hype Matt.
Starting point is 01:42:38 Okay. Do you think you can do that, though, after what I did to you in the past? I feel like I've heard you. Do you want to take turns? But you better believe it. I'm going to be positive for you. Okay. I was really ready to be positive for you.
Starting point is 01:42:48 Oh, that's nice. Thank you. All right. Are we ready? Okay. Yeah, what are we take turns? Okay. From Monroe in New York, it is Gino Fratto. Fratto, you're no Bratto, you're the besto. Welcome, Gino.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Very good. Love it. Yes. Oh yes. I forgot to hype you back. Hells yeah. My man is in tonight. From O.K in the US. Oklahoma. Jordan, Reese. Oh, Reese. A.O.K. Very good. Dave, you nailed that. That felt real good.
Starting point is 01:43:22 That was better than I. yourself, that was brilliant. Thank you. From Ford in the ACT, Edward Bassanelli. Bassanelli. Country grammar is a great song. We're dancing to it tonight. And Ford, what an automobile. They make them on a plant.
Starting point is 01:43:42 And you are growing on me. Oh, man, I am boogeying with you on that. From Brunswick in Victoria, Tess Flotman. Test more like best Yes Dave Yes you're the best You and Jess equally good Thank you
Starting point is 01:43:59 Incredible From Humah Heights In Ohio it is Harold Stoots Stoots Stoots I don't have to stoop down to you You're right up on my level If not above
Starting point is 01:44:10 Welcome in my man Yeah From London It is Luke McCurnin Oh My legs are burning for McCarman. Yes, Dave.
Starting point is 01:44:23 That was a tough one, but you made it look easy. Three more to go. You're doing so well. From Garland in Texas, John Armaise. John Armaze, you are amazing. You're the best, and there's no Zing there. Good on you. Oh, my goodness, you saw an opportunity, and you're talking.
Starting point is 01:44:42 From Millersville in PA, Pennsylvania. Yeah, I reckon. Benjamin Dalton, Joel. I'd like to be your PA just so could follow you around all the time because you are so cool. Dave, I want to be PA to you. Can I PAA? Yeah, you be my PAA. Jess can be the PAAAA.
Starting point is 01:45:02 And finally, from Chicago, Illinois, Charlie, Hey, Bert. You don't make me feel Illinois. You make me feel awesome annoy. Welcome to the club. Hey, Bert, yeah. Incredible. We did it. That felt so good.
Starting point is 01:45:21 I felt really good. I didn't mark any of them down. I didn't want to touch your computer. I don't know where it's been. Nah, just kidding. I've been unwell. But amazing work there. That was really inspiring to see from both of you.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Thank you. Thank you. Hey, your reading out was beautiful as well. Shut up. Thank you for your honesty. Stop it. You really? I can't handle this.
Starting point is 01:45:40 It's too nice. It's too nice. You're a nice person. Stop! We do joke nasty. We also do joke nicely. Yeah. Well, I think that brings us a little.
Starting point is 01:45:51 the end of the episode. What a fun, fun time we've had tonight. Or today, or this morning. Or yesterday. Whenever you're listening. That's yesterday somewhere in the world. That's true. Is it? Yeah. Okay. I don't, yeah. All right. So, Dave, anything to tell us before we boot this baby home? Hey, if you want to get involved with the Patreon just to support the show, you can go to patreon.com slash do go on pod and whilst you're on the worldwide web want to hit up our website dogoonpod.com
Starting point is 01:46:22 where you can find links to all our social media's how you can suggest a topic and our email do go on pod at gmail.com also we got the mummy on sale get involved we'd love to see you there in front of the big screen or at the daddy up to you
Starting point is 01:46:36 it's going to be so fun we won't be at that one probably but it'll be running in tandem cinemas so you can Mrs. Doubtfire it and go to both dip in and out why don't have two dates set up at once. One you take to the porno and one you take to the mummy. Perfect. Fantastic. Head you bet.
Starting point is 01:46:52 I'd love to be taken to a porno on a date. Especially as you walking and going, oh, we can go to see the mummy? You chose to see the daddy? I once went on a date to an anti-porn discussion night. Oh, wow. But no time to get into that.
Starting point is 01:47:09 That's the end of the show. I'm so fascinated. I will be asking questions off here. Thank you so much. We'll be at next week. And until then, I'll say thank you and goodbye. Later. Bye.
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