Two In The Think Tank - 290 - Corrupted Blood, The World Of Warcraft Pandemic
Episode Date: May 12, 2021In 2005, World Of Warcraft was rocked by an unforeseen virtual pandemic. An infectious illness meant players started dropping like flies, and chaos reigned. Cited as an example of how the world might ...react to a real pandemic, how does it compare to the world we find ourselves living in?Come to our live screening of The Mummy + Live Frasing The Bar on September 10: lidocinemas.com.au/mummyMatt’s New Show, The Beer Pioneer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej4TUguJL58 Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Buy tickets to our streamed shows (there are 12 available to watch now! All with exclusive extra sections): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.com Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1473-3099%2807%2970212-8http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/746700.stm
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Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On!
My name is Dave Warnicki and as always I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Poocons.
No I am Dave Warnicki.
Oh well I'm so confused now.
I always thought he was Dave Warnicki.
Well who am I?
Well I'm definitely Matt.
No you are Dave Warnicki.
Oh no.
Line.
Who am I?
Sorry, Ben Ricard.
Dave, here's your line.
We've got a live show coming up.
Oh, yeah, speaking of great scripts.
How about the script to the mummy, 1999?
Are we screening the mummy at leader, cinema,
is in Melbourne in Hawthorne.
September the 10th, it's a Friday night. We're going to be hanging out.
First of all, we're going to watch the movie as God intended.
No interruptions and then after we're going to have a little break, hit the candy bar,
come back and then we're going to record an episode of phrasing the bar, our podcast
about Brendan Fraser films that we release on Patreon, live in the cinema.
Remember remember September the 10th.
Yes, it's that easy and I'll look at the map
Look at the map. It's a you get to allocate your own seats
Seek to pick where you want to sit and fun and the center of the cinema is basically all
Packed out so if you love a wing. Yeah
Or if you want to get the last room any seats in the center you can get on it now at leader cinemas dot com dot a you slash mommy
Or click the link in the description of this very episode.
Wow.
Gosh, I'm excited.
Now Dave, how does this show work?
Well, it's not all about the mummy.
But sometimes it is.
But maybe not this way.
We're going to take it in turns to report on a topic often suggested by a listener.
One of us goes away.
It does a bit of research.
It brings back that report. The other two don't know what it's going to be on. This week's smart end to do the report.
I like the part where you go away. This is the worst part for you. Yeah. Because I'm back.
This bit sucks, but the part where you go away, I'm like, I love to watch you go.
And I come back and I'm like, now I've got some facts. Yeah. I've gotta let listeners at home know, Jess is being joke nasty.
How long is that gonna go on for?
I don't know, as long as I can remember.
Yeah, I'm fair enough.
And we'll see how nice he's got a nice butter like to look at.
Oh, thank you.
You're being joke horny.
No.
I mean, yeah, joke, joke horny, yes.
So.
Well, we always start with a question to get us on to topic and this question actually was suggested by son who's suggested the topic
I said how about you lead with this question love that Daniel from Provo suggested this question
Thank you Daniel. I say before even hearing the question just you just the just the thought is lovely is that Provo on Utah?
It's a new tar what I believe he didn't say Utah, but I then looked at Provo.
It is in Utah. Absolutely right.
I don't know why I know that.
Wow.
Congratulations.
That's Frick Davin Meow.
And that was his question.
Where am I?
In the world.
No, down here.
I'm usually unflapable.
You've been flat.
But I've been flat.
The question is, what plague
killed millions of people in 2005? Does that sound mummy-like. Was it Tutankhamans tomb?
No.
Plague in 2005.
Oh, SARS? No.
Mad cow? No.
Locusts?
That's sort of in five.
I could, I've also got my own backup question, because Daniel wanted you.
This is what Daniel intended.
Oh, he's center standoff
Garden path try to think where I was in 2005
High school play or high school. Is it gonna be like Pokemon or something like that?
Yes, it is my backup question is in which video game which video game saw a massive pandemic hit it in 2005
Sims no, it's 2005. Sims? No.
It's not the Sims.
Oh, Tomb Raider.
Pandemic.
Mario Brothers.
It's a massive game still played world-cods-wide.
World of Warcraft.
It is world of Warcraft.
Well done, Jess Perkins.
Put that on the ledger, which I mean.
I think we've been contacted by our dear listener
that Tally's who answers the questions correctly. You've pulled
away from me into second place. Matt's still, well, Matt's in second, overall is no
one. Yeah, no, we are all losing to ourselves. But I'm fourth.
Jess, you're a video gamer. When I said Cods, was that something that's near
something, isn't it? Call of Judy is called. Call of Judy, yeah, okay.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for calling me a gamer.
But you're the gamers in here.
But yeah, okay, yeah.
Gamers to the soul.
Yeah, I'm the gameist.
Yeah.
So this is corrupted blood, the world of warcraft pandemic.
Oh, I don't know anything here.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I'm not sure I understand most of the words you just said. I don't know what you're talking about.
I'm not sure I understand most of the words you just said.
I'll try and explain them all.
One by one.
Okay.
I put up three options and this one was voted for
by Patreon supporters and it's been suggested
in our hat by a few people, Daniel from Provo.
Thank you for that question as well.
And you, Ty, I believe.
You've done, yes, correct?
Give Jess another point.
James, give it to.
Give it to.
Give it to
Fantastic Do we want any warrant oranges? No, no, thanks. We got a lot
Why does he say we've got a lot of oranges? What a weird scene?
James Adams from Birmingham they've just a quick thought one day we should do a live episode where we do the film point break
Point break much like we're doing the mommy. I know it's not related to phrase
But somehow we could figure that out. I get a cameo in there something yeah come on there's a good cameo from the
if I'm remembering this right the singer from the red hot chili peppers oh yes
Anthony Keedis I think Anthony Keedis isn't there he says what does he say he's got
some some line like what the the heck are you talking about? It's something bodacious for sure.
He's playing a real bodacious,
90 surfer, like I probably not wearing a shirt.
Definitely isn't, yes.
What should I wear?
Still not wearing a shirt,
he's about 60 years old.
No shirt.
James Adams also suggested this one, Birmingham.
Marcio from Gonnett in Argentina.
Very cool.
And Alan from Dublin,
thank you so much for your suggestion.
Yeah, so widespread these suggestions. Lovely. This world of walk-ruff really is worldwide.
Mr. Worldwide? Not Mr. Worldwide, I mean that's amazing.
He's a ton, not Mr. Worldwide. No, I mean, I'm not.
I'm Mr. Worldwide. Okay, so cards on the table, I do not play World of Warcraft.
Okay. Is it a card game?
Why are you putting cards on the table?
Well, I've done that and they've laughed me out of the game.
Oh, no.
Because they said, you need a computer.
This isn't Magic the Gathering, Buddy Boy, huh?
Reference to a game.
To a game?
To another nerd game.
No offense, if this isn't an, is this an early game?
No, I mean mean there's no offense
intended, nerds are great. I'm a nerd in some ways. Some. In other ways you're a bodacious
grad dude. In other ways you're Mr. World War, yeah. So in the late 90s I used to play Warcraft
2 at my friend Nick's house, his older brother had a copy, but I really only remember that one of
the cheat codes was glittering prizes. We typed that in and you get some free stuff.
And if you clicked on a peasant character,
they would say yes, me Lord.
Okay, me Lord.
That's a fight by.
It's been fun.
So fun.
Yes, me Lord.
Sean Connery.
Sean Connery.
You fell in hard times and then you fell in the middle.
I was gonna say you had a bit of downtime.
But then the rock really brought him back.
Yeah.
Oh, now the movie I'd love to do is a lot of it. Yeah, but then the rock really brought him back. Yeah.
Oh, another movie I'd love to do is a live episode of this one.
Oh, my absolute favourite.
Fuck the prom queen.
Something like that.
I did fuck the prom queen.
What in the name of Zeus' butthole?
Nicholas Cage's absolutely going full-case.
Caging the bar.
I really think that could be a future series for us.
He's filmed to really cross a lot of genres, eh? There are, I mean, there's too much crap in there.
I was going to say that's a matter of the rock.
Johnson. Oh.
He has gone into a lot of kids films, action films.
Why don't we do our next series could be just rock films.
So anything to do with rock, we could do back to the future
because Marty McFly plays rock music.
We could do the boat that rocked. Yeah. Spinal Tap. Spinal Tap. There's options here.
Yeah. But if we did want to do the rock, we could get up to the Mummy 2, which I believe
features drawing the rock John's. Oh right. And then from the end of the
Scorpion King. Yeah, okay. This might be baffling to new listeners. We do a show on our Patreon called Frazing the Bar,
which is all about the films of Brendan Fraser.
And what are we about, 10 films in?
Oh, yeah, we've been going for just over a year,
one a month.
And that's why we're doing the live mummy episode.
And that's, I mean, none of this is relevant to Wow.
There's a few Wow types in there.
Wow's a shortening of World of Warcraft.
They've been pretty good.
So you two understand game, man.
Thank you.
And you know how they got the name Wow?
It's because they had a, the guy who invented it,
Wow Jones, who used to play for Carlton.
He had a W tattooed on each cheek,
so when he went over and spread him, it said wow. And he's like,
that gives me an idea for a video game. Is that Lil Bowell's dad? That is Lil Bowell's dad,
yeah. Who now? Percy Jones. He now runs a pub in Fitzroy, but he's also the father of
Lil Bowell. Lil Bowell actually does just go by Bowell now as he's no longer little. Oh, fantastic. So he'll be big Bow Wow.
Big Bow Wow.
Old Bow Wow.
Old Bow Wow, dead Bow Wow.
Yeah.
And hopefully in that order.
Yeah, it'd be very weird if it was the other way around.
All right, I've got my cards on the table.
Let's not forget, sorry.
I'm just trying to adjust people that love this game.
I'm not a game, I'm probably going to get some things slightly
wrong about Warcraft and for that I apologize in advance.
But that said, here we go for nubes like me and possibly you two, here is a bit of background
as we open a can and cheers to the world of Warcraft.
Cheers to the world of Warcraft.
We are the world of Warcraft.
Do you guys know much about the world of Warcraft?
No.
I don't know anything about it.
I have started watching a show on TV,
which is about a game that I think is maybe based on this.
Have you, do you know this show I'm talking about?
With the guy from Always Sunny.
It's called Mythic Quest.
So that would have probably been good information to.
Like, I wasn't, I was trying to get to that.
I didn't remember the name until I said it.
No, I haven't.
But I think it's sort of like, you know, like,
musly people in loincloths and swords,
and they're sort of like other people
are playing with headsets in other places,
and they're sort of walking around.
You get it.
Is it an RPG?
Ha-ha!
For the term.
It's not just an RPG. It's an MMO RPG.
Oh! A multi...
Oh, I do know what this means.
The G's game.
Let's work backwards.
I'm actually going to get there real quick, real soon.
I can't.
All right.
But a basic thing.
Warcraft is a franchise of video games.
It's so many things.
Novels, movies, magazines,
other types of media created by Blizzard Entertainment.
Ah, BlizzFest.
You get it.
The first game, Warcraft, Orcs and Humans was released in 1994.
It was a real time strategy game where you took the role of either the human
inhabitants of Azeroth or the invading Orcs and then you fought each other
and completed missions.
Okay, Dave, is it a real time game or a real time game?
Cause you pause there making it sound like it was a real
time game.
Yeah, I mean, if you don't use time to emphasize time, what are you doing?
Yeah, well, I'm glad I pulled you up on that.
That whole sentence baffled me.
If you don't use time to, oh, no.
Actually, if you got where, the following words after that, I might stop.
Basically, it was a game that, I might stop.
Basically, it was a game that you, you could play against other people, but it's a strategy
game.
Yeah, right.
It was a success, but Blizzard was followed by two similar games, Warcraft 2, Ties of Darkness,
Yeshmeel-Award, Warcraft 3, Rain of Chaos, and in those games, you build towns and cities
and try to take over and destroy your opponent's settlements.
Right.
Sick.
So you build farms, but also barracks, and then knights come out and you fight dragons, all sorts of fun stuff.
And again, they were successful and sought a few million copies, but they paled in comparison
to the worldwide phenomenon that was to follow.
Oh!
World of Warcraft!
World of Warcraft!
That's the porn parody. World of War R. What was released in 2004? The porn party at the same time as the game. They really thought this was going to be big and it was.
And unlike its predecessor, it is an M-M-O-R-P-G, a massive Lee multiplayer online role playing game.
Game, see? Told you. So, told you. So RPG was sort of right.
Yes, it is.
Thank you.
I've had a couple of wins here today.
Yeah, you're crushing it.
I'm so proud of you.
And just to emphasize, to quote from Britannica,
massively multiplayer refers to games in which thousands,
even millions of players may participate online together,
typically in open gaming worlds, with characters that are stored and then reactivated whenever
a player joins.
So you pick your one character and then you go off into the world.
It's fun.
The world of Warcraft.
Exactly.
You get it!
So you get to create your character or your avatar, like when we played Dungeons and Dragons
for our Patreon, you get to choose from different races
and classes, you could be a druid, a priest, a rogue,
something called a peladin.
Oh, that sounds fun.
Yeah.
That's what they walk.
They do bike races in.
Very, is that good?
It's pretty good, yes.
Not anything.
It is!
They break away from the Paladin.
Yeah, that's the problem.
That was close.
And it was black racing the Jason.
True, it's the breakaway group.
And as players explore the world, the characters they control become more powerful as they
complete quests, kill monsters and find magical items, artifacts and weapons that boost their
abilities.
Characters advanced by killing other creatures
to earn experience.
Once enough experiences acquired,
the character gains a level which increases
the character's power.
So that's like experience, wing,
sort of, we fucking these orcs.
Yeah, yeah.
Can you fuck?
You can fuck it when at the top.
Yes.
You better believe I'm fucking this orc.
The orcs are the trays, I mean.
Yeah, I'm an environmentalist. Yeah look the orcs of the trees. I'm
Yeah, I'm an environmentalist. Yeah, that's right. I'm a tree. I'm not doing online. Yeah
I imagine you can do anything in this game. So imagine you could have sex. Oh the hippie is hugging the trees Yeah, well, I'm taking it to the next level
How much you care about these trees
We're doing more trees
I'm gonna make more trees added a couple of trees off spring.
Where else the trees come from? I'm going to repopulate the earth the trees. Good luck. Drop
your dacks. Get to work mate. So the higher the level the higher. Get a branch up here.
Root. That's where the term root comes from.
Yeah, I'm rooting.
I'm rooting for my country.
Rooting means boning.
You explaining that to us?
Well, none of the Americans, because in America, rooting means supporting or barricuing.
Yeah, like rooting for.
Rooting for your team over here.
We root for a kid.
Just know they're rooting on the side whilst you root your tree.
Go Matt.
Yeah, you Matt.
Show that tree.
Rooted.
Show that tree.
You did.
I thought I'm not punishing the tree.
Show the tree, you dig that.
Oh, yeah, I get it out.
I thought he meant like show the tree who's boss.
Oh, he just means open up show the tree too.
Enjoy that palm.
That's where the term Mrs. Palmer, and if I've
daughters comes from, it means wanking a tree, a palm tree.
Can we add it out some of this?
Maybe last three, four minutes.
So the higher your level, the more powerful you are,
and the more trees you've probably fucked.
But and the word of warcraft all wow as Matt said was huge
It's subscribers picked at 12 million in 2010
Wow the game had over
Small than Australia
Shit we're on the game
Shit, we're outnumbered. The game?
Oh my god.
They're coming for us.
But how many people do you think live in Australia?
Tried about 26, 27 million?
Right.
Sight larger than 12 million.
Oh, I thought he said 30 million.
That's weird.
What are you 30?
So, no.
Whatever.
Hey, whatever.
If you're probably fucking a tree,
probably a tree.
Leaves in your ears is something.
This gum tree was tongue in my ear.
The game had over 100 million registered accounts by 2014.
See, that's more.
That's crazy.
That's what I heard, the following sentence.
I'm sorry, okay. More than 100 million accounts.
In 2014.
2014. Geez, that's hate.
But in 2010, they had 12 million player one time.
Yeah, right.
Wow.
All paying a subscription, so that's how it works.
You pay a fee per month.
So they were making hundreds of millions of dollars.
They've not billions of dollars a year.
The game, by 2017, it grossed over $9.2 billion in revenue.
To this day, nearly 17 years after its release,
it is still popular.
Wow, cool.
That old version of it.
Yeah, because what they do is they keep releasing
new worlds, new patches.
Yeah.
So there's been about six expansion packs.
Yeah, right.
So it's definitely not as popular as it once was,
but still millions of people play it every night.
It's crazy.
But one of the most notorious incidents in the game
occurred way back in 2005.
That's what you mentioned at the start.
So now I've got a bit of background.
Matt, how does he?
I keep saying wow, and I'm just saying it genuinely, but now I'm feeling
gross self-conscious.
Yeah, you're also spreading your cheeks at the same time.
Sean, off those W's.
What, I'm allowed?
Well, it's a bit much.
You've never once protested in five years.
But today, it's making me feel uncomfortable.
OK, well.
But you look very comfortable.
Not in front of Matt Stregel for him, please.
LAUGHTER
Also, Blizzard, the company that makes the game
is constantly releasing updates and expansions
with new places to explore in the online world.
It keeps the game interesting.
Put in a pub shopping center. Of course, you know, you're going to check out the new
town square. Yeah, you've got to check out the town square.
It's kind of fountain. That's fun. Someone put shampoo in it last
night. It's been bubbling up a store. Killed all the fish, but still quite fun.
Very funny. Just a goldfish, you're good. In September.
Oh, fish. 2005. At a time when there were approximately 4 million players worldwide.
Zool-Gurub Dungeon was added, which gave players a chance to confront and kill the fearsome end boss,
Hacker Soul Flayer, who's the God of Blood.
God of Blood! God of Blood.
Yeah, look at it.
Wow.
And shit.
What a weird thing to be a God of.
Yeah, just sort of a liquid insulator.
Yeah, that's mine.
That's mine.
Every then, flowing through you, that's mine.
Mine.
I'm the God of that.
God, that blood knows you're welcome.
I could ask for that back at any time to see, you know?
Yeah.
But that's on loan.
I can control that.
That would be, you could really fuck people
after you control their blood.
Send it backwards, it goes back into your heart.
Yeah, you make people, you go on all right.
I'm lowering the sugar level.
You could really, you know.
Hey, feel a bit dizzy, don't you?
Yeah, boop.
Barry, how did that?
How did that you welcome?
Yeah, you better fear me.
Yeah.
Well, people.
Oh, I am the God of blood.
People did fear this, because it's the end boss, you know, I got through this mission, killed all better fear me. Yeah. Oh, I am the God of Blood.
People did fear this, because it's the end boss.
You know, I got through this mission,
killed all the other characters.
This is the big bad you got to kill at the end of this mission.
Can you make and decorate a little house?
Get a job, get a career progression, have a family?
Yeah, is this the Sims?
Because that's the only game I want.
I can go to the fridge and have a quick lunch.
Oh, that's fun.
This does feel like Sims only, you can like really,
you know, I know you like to put people in a pool
and take out the ladder, but this feels,
I think you can actually, you know,
like stab people and stuff.
Yeah, but why's the fun in that?
I'd rather lock people in the room with 50 swords
and they'd step on them like a rape.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And somehow this way more violent game seems way less psycho than Sims.
To be fair, I haven't killed a Sim in a very long time.
You know, that's fun when you're a kid.
Right.
Yeah, it's been fun.
I reckon if I got back in there within 20 minutes, I've killed a Sim.
No, I just make a bone all the time.
Oh, no.
Yeah, it's pretty rad.
That's wow.
And you know, work on their careers.
That's what I do.
Okay.
Yeah, don't kill them anymore.
I just sound, yeah, that sounds like a lot of people's
probably day to day.
Yeah.
Make your career a day.
Yeah.
Bown in a night.
Yeah.
Yep.
Everybody, every single person out there.
That's what everyone does. Career day. Well, not quite everyone, but. Yeah, when you get there, it's really good. everybody every single person out there. That's what everyone does.
Correct. Well, not quite everyone but Dave's a real career guy. I'm in the pool. All right,
I'm looking for the fucking ladder. I swear it was really something. I mean how else did I get in?
Oh well, keep swimming, circle getting a bit tired. Feel the god of blood is really
I feel the God of Blood is really...give me a bit of a light head here. So this update, to go on to this dungeon with this God of Blood, this is the first 20
player raid that was released in the game.
So this new thing, a raid is where a bunch of players, you know, you could be anywhere
in the world, they team up together, in this case their mission is to kill Hacker, the
God of Blood.
Hacker, a pretty good name.
Yeah.
I like it.
And you look him up, he's pretty terrifying looking.
He's me.
Looks quite tall.
The bloody.
Yeah, references to blood.
So you got red hair.
He's tall, scary to you, Dave.
Oh, he's fearsome.
OK, well, you're just the only thing you used to describe.
He's tall.
But I mean, I think he's wearing like a,
he looks a bit like a dragon-esque. Oh
Dragon man. Yeah, he looks like a dragon man with wings. Wow, okay
Devilish now you're doing and handsome. Yeah, you devilishly. Oh, it's got hot. I'll show you a photo this is him.
It's that guy. Oh
Yeah, why more colorful? I forget that it's 2005 level graphics. Yeah, it's beautiful. That's right.
So that's the aim.
And if you kill him, in his death throws the winged serpent hacker hits foes with a spell
now called corrupted blood and infection that can instantly kill weaker characters.
This was unlikely though because to be facing hacker deep into the dungeon in this complicated
part of the game, in theory characters were more experienced and
over high level. Right. So if you get there you're able to withstand this.
Okay. And for those characters it was only supposed to damage them for about
10 seconds. A cloud of blood would explode from infected characters you'd be
getting hurt and then you'd go back to the battle. Right. So it wasn't too bad.
The condition could spread to other players if they stood close enough to you'd be getting hurt and then you'd go back to the battle. So it wasn't too bad.
The condition could spread to other players
if they stood close enough to someone who was infected,
like many communicable diseases in real life.
To the powerful players who were battling Hacker,
the infection was just a hindrance designed to make
the particular combat a bit more challenging.
Fortunately, after 10 seconds,
or if the boss was killed, the condition was supposed to end.
The problem was, it didn't.
Oh.
You see, in the game, as well as characters, there are also animals or pets.
Just, you love this bit.
Because I like pets.
Yeah.
And it doesn't really get the concept of pets.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I like animals, but I just think they should be able to roam free.
Amongst the trace.
I agree with you, and I have a dog.
But like, where else would he go?
I can't set him free, you know?
It's a nice thing.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I think we just let him let him go see what happens.
I think I'm at.
Maybe reality show.
Pretty sure, yeah, I mean.
Put a GoPro on him, that'd be fun. Where's he go?
Probably comes back home, actually.
They probably, yeah, they don't exist.
A lot of breeds of dogs would just stop existing, I guess.
That all sort of just, you know, merge into, like wild dog mungle breeds.
Yeah, cats are probably fine.
Yeah.
They seem resilient.
They get bigger and bigger.
Feral cats, there's quite a problem in Australia, isn't it? Ferral cats, there are plenty of Ferral dogs as well.
But I think they're naiters, they're dingoes often, aren't they?
So they're not really Ferral, are they?
They're wild.
Naited dogs, wild dogs.
Anyway, so you can have pets and animals.
Yeah, and these animals can be summoned to fight alongside
players during battles.
But much like Pokemon, the animal can also be recalled
and put away.
OK.
The game punishes you if you allow your pet to die.
So they are often withdrawn or recalled if injured prevent them from being killed.
You don't want your animal to die.
So if it gets attacked or it's, you know, it's on its last leg, you bring it back in
before it goes.
The problem with this is that these animals have all the conditions that were applied to
them during the battle until they are brought out again
So if they're poisoned or burned or whatever if they're withdrawn by a player the animal stays infected or burn until it's let out again
So what happened with Hacker? That's horrific
So it says yeah, it's the suffering in your backpack Jesus. So what happened with Hacker?
In your backpack, sorry, that just, that's just a funny
you. I got a wolf in my back back. A little sick dog in the back
pack. And it's suffering. So what happened with hack hours
players would team up to kill him. This is the big, big
serpent. They, you know, winged thing. They'd call out their
animals for support. The animals would get hit by this
corrupted blood and then get recalled because they were
injured. But in their little hibernation
that stay poisoned until they'll let back out again, and if they were close by other players
or other pets, they would infect them, and then those players would infect others.
And the designers of the game did not think about this in the room now.
When they coded this section, they didn't think about it.
It's amazing.
So it's supposed to be in that part of the game only, you fight the guy, and then after 10 seconds, you're like, cool, go back to my world now. That's amazing. So it's supposed to be in that part of the game only, you fight the guy and then after
10 seconds, you're like cool, go back to my world now.
That's fascinating.
But it's like how the bubonic plague was spread by rats.
This is a very similar.
So similar, yeah.
You'd bring the rats, you'd put them back in your back, you know, they'll suffer.
But they didn't find it.
Honestly, bring them out again.
Flues and stuff have been brought out by ducks that don't actually have symptoms or whatever,
so they travel
around and then it just goes from there. So this was originally spread by animals. Now,
a little illness that was only supposed to be seen in a tiny part of the game was able
to be taken to other parts of the world. And because characters can teleport around the
playable world, once characters were there infected animals in toe teleported out of the dungeon and into the heavily populated cities
It was able to spread very
Very quickly and you've got so you've got a character and that's who you are forever and then so it dies
You just can't play the game. No, you respawn. Are you respawn? Yes? You die. You come back
Right, so a lot of people who put a lot of effort in,
and they're just having it go back to square one. Yeah, I'm not sure if you go back to square one,
or like, yeah, maybe you're about to level up or something, maybe you lose all that sort of thing.
So like it's a very annoying to do. Right. Especially, can we just clip that out? It is very
annoying to do. Especially if it happens over and over and over again.
Oh, as we are about to discover, right? Because you come back weak again. Yeah.
And it's just going to happen again. Oh, no, everyone's sick around me.
This happens to me when I play Stardew Valley and I go too deep in the mind and I get killed.
You wake up. You're alive still, but sometimes you lose stuff from your backpack
But you were just mining in the mine of Stadu Valley
What Stadu Valley? It's a really cute little game on the switch. Yeah, right a little farmer sounds like a little lolly
He's Starbursts. I'm maybe I'm thinking of Starburst. Stadu
Jeeps or lolly
Stadu by grandma loves jubes. My grandma loves Jeeps. My dad loves Jeeps.
It's an old person.
I love Jeeps.
Love Jeeps.
Every old person in my life loves Jeeps.
I love Jeeps.
Oh, I love Jeeps.
My favorite, the life saver, pastels, my favorite.
Okay.
I made musk after musk.
Oh, another old person.
No, I'm not doing musk.
I love musks.
Musks amazing.
Yeah, big fan.
Oh, there you go.
Finally something we all like. It's funny. I would have thought Jeeps was a child's thing. Musk's amazing, yeah, big fan. Oh, there you go. Finally something we all like.
It's funny, I would've thought
Jubes was a child thing, not an old person.
No, not an old person.
But it'd be like, well, I can't eat anything too hard.
I'll have a Jubes.
They do.
They do it easy to chew.
Yeah.
Love a Jubes.
I don't know, you're getting free, but that is you.
A lifetime supply of Jubes.
Oh, yeah.
And Musk.
Imagine if you could make musk jubes.
Is that possible? I don't think it is. We'll look into the science.
As in musk lollies or do you like musk sticks?
Like crunchy musk sticks, the skinny crunchy ones. I've got the soft,
fatty ones and I like the musk lifesavers.
Yeah, gotcha.
But I mean, I haven't had these in years.
No.
I remember that I like them.
Yeah.
I'm thinking I can think of the flavor right now.
I'm enjoying that.
It's very distinctive flavor, musk.
It's not a nice name.
It's like, oh, a bit musky.
Yeah.
That's musk, isn't it?
Yeah.
Can I smell, I smell musky.
Yeah.
Delicious.
Oh.
Well, more on this plague and possibly lollies right after this fent I smell musky. Yeah. Delicious.
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Well Matt, before long, disease was raging across the online world.
To quote from the Washington Post,
cities like Dwarven City, Iron Forge, and Ork City,
Orgama were overrun within hours.
Whoa.
It really, once the cat was out of the bag.
That is amazing.
So I mean, you'll get to it.
What literally, once the cat was out of the bag here.
You're like,
the cat's like, I'm sick. Don't I'm out you're cute me you bastard
Give me a mask you thought that I could like I'm fired a demon. I'm a fucking cat
Jesus I'm good for like
Pairing and look at cute shit put a little bow tie on me. I want I'm guessing the people at at
What's it Fizz what's no?
Blizzard one of the people at, what is it, Fizz? What's, no. Blizzard.
I wonder if the people at Blizzard must be,
they must be frantic at the moment,
trying to figure out how to work out or whatever.
Yeah, being like, oh no, this is not what we intended.
Yeah.
Go on a Gavin, what did you fucking do?
Gavin!
You're in charge of the dungeon.
Oh, Gavin, but he Googled sports.
Yeah, don't.
Work purposes.
What?
Oh, Gavin, you're already doing some research on the dungeon.
What?
Am I working on the dungeon?
David, the end can you see if there's
any porn parodies of World of Warcraft?
No, I've got funny feeling.
What would it be called?
I mean, I already called it in a world of war arts.
World of War arts. What if it works too well, if anything.
World of porn craft or something like that?
Yeah, that's the best thing to do.
Yeah, that actually makes some sense.
He's a craft.
But as a craft, Dave's got it.
World of War Shaft.
There it is.
Yep.
Made it in the war show.
Imagine it.
Imagine the war show.
I don't want everyone.
Imagine it.
Have a go.
And home, have a go.
Pause this. Never think. That a go. And how do we go?
Pause this.
Never thought it was.
That was amazing.
Have a little think.
Right, but it was devastating.
Remember for a very high level character
that affected them temporarily and was a bit annoying,
but basically no worse than the common cold.
But for low level characters that got infected,
they died instantly.
Wow.
And it was like a scale too.
So like if you're not a very high level character, you died,
but not straight away.
Uh-huh.
You're lingered.
That's more annoying.
Cities were quickly filled to the brim with corpses and streets were literally white
with the bones of the dead.
Because if your character dies somewhere, yes, you respawn, but your corpse is there and
stays there. So I've seen pictures of it, there are like just bones everywhere.
Characters were dropping like logs.
That's incredible.
How confusing with that of being.
You must have thought, is this on purpose?
Yeah, honestly, trust me if you're a low level character because that means you haven't
been playing the game as long.
Yeah.
Maybe your mates have just talked to you, oh yeah, I played this game, I've had a lot about
it. Yeah, that's possible. It was very much in the to you, oh yeah, I played this game, I've had a lot about it.
At the time it was very much in the zeitgeist.
Oh, World of Warcraft, okay.
What?
I'm just dying.
And then because when you die, you respawn.
So this made the body count even higher
because you die and then reanimate.
And they could quickly get infected again
and then die and start the process over and over again.
So your body's just out there 15 times in different spots.
Oh. It was actually
more deadly than most real life pandemics because in the real world most viruses don't really
like to kill their hosts because they can have a much wider impact if the hosts don't
die. So they can circulate the community much longer and spread far and wide. That's
why something like a bowler that kills 40 to 90% of those infected doesn't spread as
fast as something like COVID, because
the people die out often before they spread it.
Oh, that's fascinating.
Which is awful, but that's one of the most deadly diseases I've ever connected that.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So there'll be a big outbreak like, you know, in a town, but it won't travel as far and
wide because-
Because people aren't going, I'm gonna catch a flight overseas.
I'm feeling a bit of ballery.
Yeah, because it just hits that quick.
It hits and everyone's awful.
So grim.
A ballery.
A bit of ballery.
You want a bit of ballery today?
But in wow, it was deadly and spread like wildfire.
And with people dying and at the speed at which the outbreak
was occurring, people panicked.
There was total chaos in the game
And I've seen I love the idea of you seeing the chaos on screen and then you zoom out
It's just a guy sitting in his room clicking
Go chaos
And we know that he makes little noises like
Wow, I died again. Oh, this is chaos.
I'll know, I'll make a sandwich.
Might have a break from this game.
Marco played Cod.
Cod's please.
I can't die in Cod's.
Oh, what?
What?
So, total chaos.
I've seen footage on YouTube that I'll link to,
but you can see hundreds of players
just standing still with what looks like blood sort of exploding out of them.
Oh, and then what would be loving this?
Yes, he's just evil after the dungeon.
And then so the blood starts exploding out,
then they drop dead, leaving bodies everywhere.
It's a game from 2005, but it's still pretty full on
just to watch these people just sort of helplessly
standing there and then the character's going,
blood, like it's sort of like blood,
like pumping out of them and then just dropped it.
And you can hear them going,
hacker would be loving it.
Now the response was interesting
because so many people were affected.
The reaction was seen as a good example
of what people might do during a worldwide pandemic.
Imagine.
Imagine.
Which until recently we hadn't properly seen
on a world's wide scale in modern times.
So this event and the reaction was studied
by epidemiologists and academics.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
A couple of reference, a couple of papers in this
that have been written on this incident.
That makes sense.
That's why we're not allowed to keep
sick pets in our backpacks anymore. Yeah, not a good old days. In real life, consequences. I'd chuck three,
four. Sick cats in my backpack on the day. Now I won't even let you. Now I'm on an adventure
with my sick cats. If I didn't care to that anymore, my sick cats have never been on
this adventure. I've never got to experience the joy of adventure.
Only when they're healthy.
My truck healthy cat to my back, I feel like I'm still out of it.
Oh, sure, of course.
I can't put the sick cats in there.
Not the sick ones.
Not the sick dogs.
The dirty sick dogs.
I've got so many cats.
One of them's always sick.
Passes on to the next one.
They're like dominoes, they're like,
hey, Jamie, can my back pack? Passes are on to the next one. Yeah. It's like like dominoes, man. The pandemic in my backpack.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
So at the time, and for a few years after the incident,
it was seen as this thing of being like,
oh, maybe this is how people will respond
in a real worldwide pandemic.
And now we've had logging off.
I'm getting a sandwich.
Playing a different game.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
This game's shit. I think in a world game. This game shit.
I think in a world wide pandemic, I probably have made noises like...
Click click.
Yeah, you gotta do the click first, like the...
Oh, that's good.
I'm gonna have a nap.
Yeah, I will.
I'll just play a video game.
Crinkle Crinkle Crinkle, that's a chip packet.
That's made in Chippies, that's a chip packet. That's me eating chipies.
Whilst lying down.
And that's what it sounds like to you.
Crinkle, crinkle, crinkle.
Yeah.
Not just the cut of the, well, I mean it.
How would you do the noise?
We're not even thin, though.
Fuck, he's cool.
Well, if there's no one's that pulled out the skill in a while.
What number was that?
I think that's 8.79.
That's me coughing like Jess, that's 6.42.
Wow, you can do it while speaking.
Yeah, very skilled.
You're very good.
Sorry Matt.
Alright, I'm sorry.
Actually, that's probably about enough for that from me, sorry.
Are you feeling okay, Matt?
Yeah, no, I mean, that's perfectly healthy.
I'm no sick dog.
Happy for me to go on.
Jess is coughed a bad job.
Fallen off her jacket.
It's quite a cough from Matt.
That's how good my impersonation of Jess coughing is.
My little badge fell off.
So it's quite interesting because now we've all had a worldwide
pandemic that was all experienced.
It's interesting to see the similarities in response because at the time they were like,
oh, this is exactly what people would do.
And reading it through, some of it you go, oh, yeah.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
So as the body,
People did bench Netflix in the game.
As the bodies piled up in densely populated cities, major towns and cities were abandoned by the population as panic set in and players rushed to evacuate to the relative safety of the countryside.
Something we've sort of seen here in the studio.
Yeah, big time.
People wanting to leave the city and move to the country.
Get out of the ring of steel.
Yeah.
The problem in the game was, as people travelled on mass out of cities, they spread the disease to previously unaffected places.
So it made the pandemic worse.
Which is what they were worried about?
Yeah, people were worried about, don't know,
you city, get the help.
Spread it to the region.
Or like people for a while there,
I think you heard about when Victoria,
our state was the COVID hot spot in New South Wales.
People would be like booing and yelling at cars
with license plates
from Victoria on those streets. We don't want you in here. Go back to your plague state.
Plague state. Yeah, that should be our new license plate motto, Victoria, the plague state.
Some players selflessly rushed to help using their healing powers and acted as sort of like
first responders and as doctors and nurses
That is awesome. They were obviously putting themselves at risk with our trying to help
It's nice that sounds and similar to our world relying on doctors and nurses in an article and the Lancet infectious diseases journal published in
2007 called the Lancet so good
And it was written by Nina Fefferman, an Eric Loughgren, two great names.
So again, so that again,
Nina Fefferman, an Eric Loughgren
for of Tufts University School of Medicine.
Okay, none of this is real.
Is this an in-game university?
That's right.
The University of Welf.
How did the University of Welf? That it be the University of Wales?
That's fun.
It's impressive.
They're right, their behaviour, this is the people, healing people, may have actually extended
the course of the epidemic and altered its dynamics.
Keeping infected individuals alive long enough for them to continue spreading the disease
and by becoming infected themselves and being highly contagious when they rushed to another area.
Never do good.
Never help.
Never help.
Sick.
I mean, it's pretty clear.
I've never done it, not once.
Because of this, because I know it's not helpful.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'd actually selfish to help.
And I like to stand in a distance and go, yuck!
No.
Ew!
I'm not helping, and that, Yuck! No. Ew!
I'm not helping, and that's actually helping.
Yeah.
I'm brave, I say.
Yeah, I tweet stuff all the time.
But like, I know, it's not the same thing
of spreading the disease, but obviously a lot of doctors
and nurses in our pandemic have been highly effective.
Yes.
And infected.
Both.
And I boo them.
I stand outside hospitals. boo say at ambulance Victoria
Boo, I've read something from toughs University
You might think you're doing good
But I'm actually you're not
Have you read Lothagrin
Actually, you're not.
Have you read Lothagrin?
Oh, the Enfifferman. The developers behind the game, Blizzard Entertainment,
try to impose quarantine measures,
isolating infected players from as yet uninfected areas.
So they can't just like recode it so it disappears.
Not quickly enough without resetting the whole game.
So like, we'll try something else first.
Can I just say quickly?
I don't understand anything.
Like, I don't, you just feel like they could just like
change a letter to another letter in the code.
And it just goes away.
And it just goes away.
But that's amazing that it's not even possible.
What have it made it worse?
What I just said there was quite naive,
someone saying at home, yelling at their iPod.
That's not how it works.
Does do you even code, bro?
No, bro.
No, I don't.
No, I don't.
So they tried at first a quarantine.
And this quarantine failed for two reasons.
Number one was the disease was highly contagious
and it spread anyway.
But also because some people resisted the quarantine
and broke the rules.
No, do more masks.
Sound familiar?
Yes.
Oh, they used a nebulizer. Is that something? Hey, somebody more masks. Sound familiar? Yes. Oh, they used a nebulizer.
Is that something?
I saw that in that.
Some very specific reference, but yeah.
Well, I think we're only doing the show
for people of Victoria these days, the plague state.
They get nebulizer material.
They get it.
I mean, material strong.
Ha ha ha.
Some characters flag themselves as infected to keep others away, like stay away, I'm sick.
People self-isolating.
But this was rendered useless because non-playable characters who could not die due to special
coding could also get infected.
Oh, so they can't die, but they're, I wish I called them a super spreader.
Yeah, because they're like a character that you go up to and you know,
you can talk to them in the game.
Right.
Like the games created that.
Yeah, they can't die.
So they get infected, but they just stay alive
to be a super spreader.
And even though they couldn't die,
they could spread the illness.
So anyone who walked past them got infected.
Oh my God.
So they're kind of like a super spreader slash
asymptomatic carrier at the same time.
Oh my God.
They're asymptomatic character.
Okay, well neither of those things really mean anything to me, but a symptomatic character.
They're asymptomatic character.
They're a carrier.
Are they a symptomatic carrier or an asymptomatic carrier?
Oh my god.
I don't.
They've.
I'm broken.
Are they a symptomatic character or an asymptomatic acid? I don't know if I'm a
spoke or you misheard. Well, that's the latter. Almost
definitely. Probably both. So you can see there are
parallel to what has happened in the hell. I've some
players. People in the world who can't die. The can spread
car. That's right. Was more like people people that don't even know that they're sick.
Yeah, they spread it to everyone else.
And they go to eight different barbecues.
Yeah, that's right.
Some players attempted to enter infected areas
to witness the chaos, then rush out
before contracting the disease themselves.
That sounds clever.
Some even created accounts after they heard of the pandemic
so they could have a look for themselves.
These are non-wow players.
And of course this resulted in the furthest spread of the sickness because people are
signing up as a newbie character just to walk into purposefully and then they get infected
and died.
Some have said like this voyeurism is a bit like journalist reporting on an event and
they bring the disease.
I don't know if that's right.
That's what they were saying that that could happen in real life.
Pandemic, I don't know.
As a journalist, Jess, how do you feel about that?
Obviously.
Are you a journalist much like people who log in and start a new World War Cuff account
just to have a look?
Well, all journalists take an oath that in the...
Hypocratic.
Hypocratic oath. taking oath that in the... Keep a credit. ...but in the event of a highly contagious disease, we are to immediately lick an infected person.
Just to see what it's like.
Just to get right like an hour by hour blog.
Exactly. How could you possibly report on how disease affects someone?
If you don't have to.
Exactly.
You lick so you can report back.
Exactly right.
And you also lick it because you like it.
And the answer?
Musk.
Mmm, this plague.
It's got a little...
Muskete!
Muskete!
It's a must for the test.
A word of warcraft has a whole economy going on in it.
And some players would send their knowingly infected avatars to work or off to a market,
seeing them as having to work.
A bit like people in real life
who've run out of sick days,
they just go into their job anyway.
Right, of course.
So yeah, so.
So you're playing a game where you're like,
oh, but my avatar can't take a day off.
The drudgery of, yeah,
I love to escape into this world of war,
work craft.
Yeah, apparently there are in time.
Back in the day when it was the biggest game in the world,
it was something like...
This six of the 10 largest supercomputers in the world
were dedicated to mining gold in the game of World of Warcraft.
When you think about all the things
that could be doing with these massive computers,
and it was, I I think was in Japan
Career and China. Wow They're doing Dodge Coyote. Dedicated
Am I saying the right doge?
David you're saying it now you're right into the second time here. Thank you so much
Some of the behavior took a darker turn
quoting from a
Another journal article journal article here also another. That's what we call them, Jess.
Ballosa wrote this one.
In the journal.
That's cute. That's cute.
That's cute. It's fun.
Journalist.
Can I change my name in the group chat to journal?
What is it at the moment?
It's so confusing for me me because both of you are star
Slumber and star slither or something. I never have any idea
I'm the same with you two one of yours is legit wizard jizz and one of them is star slumber. I'm star slumber
What am I?
Star jelly, so I've got it would be very I've got to work at whose slumber and jelly is I never I just got a click to see
All right, I'll change myself to journal that clear everything
That'd be great I just got a click to see. All right, I'll change myself to Jernicol. That would clear everything. Thank you very much.
That would be great.
What was that conversation on Pard?
That was from the Kentucky Meat Share episode.
Yes, yes, a live one.
We got a live one.
So from one of these Jernicols, so you're quoting.
For me.
From Jess.
Some of the servers have suggested that the unexpected spread of this virtual infection
was the deliberate strategy of malicious players. It's possible that players who were able to sustain
the transmission cycle of the disease by keeping in close contact with another player was constantly
healing each other until they'd reached populated cities. If so, this incident may also count as the first virtual act of bio-warfare.
So these players were essentially accused of online E-terrorism.
World of bio-warcrafts.
Which I mean, it's funny to me that people accused of terrorism for killing other characters
when the whole aim of the game is really to kill other characters.
How dare you kill in a slightly different way.
It's like a different way. Because if you kill other characters, we'll give you points. But not like this.
No, don't do that. We took a code of honor. A bunch of players left the game
because dying over and over again isn't that fun. Sure. Can you believe?
Cowards. To quote from NPR, players were crying out in this virtual world and shouting for the people in charge.
That is the game creators to do something!
Like somebody think of the walker!
I guess that's a bit like people in real life shouting out to the government. Please do something.
Yeah.
Fortunately, unlike in real life, the creators of the game were able to reset.
At least three servers were affected and on October the 8th, Blizzard had to reboot the
entire game to correct the problem.
So it was about a month before they did this.
Was there some sort of a PR nightmare?
Well, at the time, lots and lots of articles written about it.
A PR nightmare, but also some people were signing up just like a haven't got it.
Oh, true.
So maybe sucks people in.
Hey, and he news is good news. What do they say?
So what they say?
Any publicity.
Goodness.
That is not what they say.
There's bad news.
Well, that's good news.
Oh, news.
So do you say news?
Great.
Everyone's dead.
Oh, fantastic.
What do you say?
This is a news event.
I remember teasing my mom one time that nobody had texted her.
Like she checked her phone, she had no messages.
I was like, hi, no one, no one's talked to you.
And she was like, oh, I always say it's a good thing because it means everyone's okay.
Oh, fuck.
That's very sweet.
That's so cute.
Do you think, so you imagine you text your mum, she goes, ding, she goes, oh no.
You get to a certain age, you two wouldn't understand this.
But you get to a certain age. Most of the't understand this. If you get to a certain age,
most of the times you hear something,
it's about Bethel or Gerald dying.
And I can't wait to tell you, you know, off pod.
That's all over, talk to you about is,
Bethel and Gerald.
You'd be like, do you remember Gerald and Bethel?
Of course.
And now I'll say, well, they're dead.
Oh no.
Yeah, you're no fun to talk to anymore, actually.
Just listing dead.
A lot of doom and gloom. Yeah. you're no fun to talk to anymore actually. Just listing dead. A lot of doom and
gloom. Yeah. Other people from the walls club. I haven't got my head through the week. Yeah.
Not quite. How's Judith doing? She's pulling through. Oh, she's dead. Oh, I didn't. So,
she's dead. Sorry. She been hit by a cropped blood. Yes. Hacker. Hacker, go to her. Another victim.
Oh god, she's exploding the cloud of blood. Yeah. Sheacker. Hacker. Go to it. Oh, gosh, he's exploding a cloud of blood.
Yeah. She was on too low a level to survive. Oh, jeez. Oh, no. Too young to explode in a
cloud of blood. No, she was 95. But a young 95. A young 95. We all thought she'd get a 96 at least.
Easily. Anyway. All right, P. Jude. Yeah, then that cloud of blood got her.
Anyway, all right, P. Jude. Yeah, then that clatter blood got her.
So, it was a, they reset the game and they made pets unable to be affected by corrupted blood
and that kept it contained to the dungeon where it belonged.
Wow, that was, that was it. It was just, wow!
That's crazy.
Why are you saying, wow, I can't stop.
I know. It's your catchphrase. Stick to the wall. Everyone knows, you hear, wow, you go, oh, I can't stop. No, it's your catchphrase.
Stick to it, you're nowhere.
Everyone knows, you see it, well, you go, oh, you've heard
do go on, eh?
Thanks very much.
Just well, Perkins.
Thanks very much, this.
I mean, don't act all weird, it's fun for you to meet me.
It's fun.
I know, Jess.
Well, wow.
You know where I live.
I do.
Don't help people, though.
I usually do.
Oh, no.
You've got to win him over somewhere. You don't know, live. I do. Don't tell people though. I usually do.
No, no.
I'm going to win him over somehow.
You're going to no address.
So the corrupted blood was over, but it should be noted that the corrupted blood incident
wasn't the first virtual sickness.
Oh.
It had previously affected a game much closer to home.
Home.
Oh, to home to Australia.
Oh, okay.
No.
Not to Australia, but. We do okay. No video in Australia, but
What have we got any games?
And
Tiled goose games us is it really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cross bandicoot is that some sort of bandicoot? We I mean bandicoot are an Australian animal
But it's not Australian is it? No, but I'm bringing it closer to the home of Dougal one,
that's what I mean.
Oh.
The first incident, and I'm sorry to say J.P.,
happened in the year 2000 in May, affecting players of the Sims.
Oh, no.
Who were outraged when their game characters
died of an infection contracted from virtual guinea pigs
that had not been adequately cared for?
Oh, no.
Do you know anything about this?
Well, when was the first time you were able to play the sim?
Well, I thought I played about the edge of 11,
which would have been 2001.
So you thankfully missed this awful, awful period.
I didn't even know, so that would have been sims one.
I don't even know you could have guinea pigs in the sims.
You had to look after them.
Or it was bad news for you.
Oh, I'm your dude, yeah.
And according to the Sims fandom page, quote,
Sims can catch it if they are bitten by a guinea pig that has a dirty cage
or from other Sims who have been infected with the disease.
Sims infected with guinea pig disease will sneeze and cough frequently
and their comfort and energy motives will rapidly decline
and infected simul die if they're not treated within time.
Wow! That's nuts! I'm looking up sims one guinea pig.
And to annoy everyone, this really annoyed player, due to a glitch, a sim who dies from
guinea pig disease, cannot be successfully resurrected by the grimim Reaper. Once they are restored to life, they will immediately die again.
So you just, you, you, you're cursed by the guinea pigs.
Oh no.
Just to die over and over again.
Pets, this is why you shouldn't have pets.
Yeah, that's right.
They're always gonna get it back to us eventually.
Well, all plagues sort of started with animals, don't they?
Let's just let them live somewhere else.
Yeah, not a planet.
Oh, we could have an animal planet.
That's not bad.
We'll have one planet of the apes, one planet of the dogs, and so on.
Etc.
Planet of the sea urchins.
Yeah.
How are we going to make all these planets?
How do you make planets? Planet exists already.
So just find a C planet, we'll send the urchins up there.
For us planet, we'll send up the apes and Tom Hanks.
Yeah, then you've got.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
That was good.
I edited it out.
I assume you edited out all bad jokes on this show.
That's why we'll come, always coming in 20 to 30 minutes long.
Yeah, that's right.
Short episodes, we'll be recording for six hours a week.
So onto the scenes, the disease could only be transmitted to other characters on the
same lot.
Okay.
Yes, all the same street, really.
So if it didn't spread on a huge scale like in World of Warcraft, but still bloody annoying
for these characters, there were some stern letters at that time in the year 2000 to the
creators of the game.
Are the BBC reported on this in an article written in 2000 and it sounded awful.
Were you already playing in 2000? When did you discover
the Sims? The following year. We discussed that. I'd already played Sim City, I think,
sometime in the late 90s. Sim City 2000? Yeah, maybe it was. It was like a super Nintendo game.
I've still got the cartridge at home. Oh, let's be worth a mint. But the console was stolen.
Because it was worth a mint. I've still got cartridges for half a dozen games,
but no, nothing to play it on. Yeah, that's disappointing. I should give them to someone. If any
listeners have a Super Nintendo and want games like Sim City,
and you can continue on my city,
which I think was called,
F-A-Q.
That's a-
That's a classic.
That's very good, but I don't get it.
Um, who started that?
I remember telling Dad about it.
I'm like, Dad, check out my city.
It's called F-A-Q. He's a, come on Matt.
I thought I thought it would have got past him, like,
come on.
He won't understand this.
He won't understand this.
He's too old.
He's gonna be like, yeah, FARCUE, I don't see the very beautifully hidden second meaning.
I just sort of was called, and I was, it is like FAR, FARCUE dad.
Was it, was it your dad who took the Nintendo?
Maybe it was.
Now our caravan was broken into.
No.
But they left the cartridge.
Fullish.
And the controllers.
So then it's just a piss you off.
Yeah, it was.
So what I was laughing at before is that my high school boyfriend's auntie one time tried
to convince us.
She was explaining to us as young kids.
We were like early 20s.
She was trying to tell us why the saying is like it cost a mint.
And she was saying it was because mint used to be very expensive.
Even more expensive than mask.
The most expensive flavor.
Wow. I was just like, you know, I think I was able to do with like a mint.
You don't think that?
I was like, no, no, no, no, no, it's because mint was very expensive.
Mints actually where they make coins and currency they were named after the flavor mint.
Wow.
It's very funny.
Because they cost a mint.
No, it costs a mint too.
That's, but that's not a coincidence
because they name them after pepper.
Originally they'll call the peppermint.
Where do you make, what do you make all that money?
How's the peppermint?
Okay.
But they got shorned over time to the mint.
To mint, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because there's so many of it, half to mint.
To be.
To be.
To be very, very funny if your friend is right.
No, I don't think that's true at all.
But it would be funny.
It would be funny, but.
There's nothing funnier than someone gone, okay.
I'm big wrong.
Yeah, okay.
Idiot.
Sorry Dave, we really derailed.
Oh, no, I've just said there was just the BBC wrote
about the Sims one in the year 2000.
I enjoyed what they wrote.
The discussion area of the Sims website
has wrong with questions about cures for the six Sims
and how a Sim can recover from the career setback
of spending a few days in bed.
A setback?
Some child Sims with bad grades have ended up in military school
after spending a day or two in bed,
recovering from the cold.
Yeah, I forgot that.
They spend in military school if you grades were bad.
People are so pissed off because the kids
in fact are like, in EP.
They're like begging the military people,
don't date my kid away.
Wow.
It's not my fault I didn't play in the cage.
So the army, oh, I've seen a conspiracy here.
The army's infected that hamster, right?
Or guinea pig?
Oh, yeah, they always want pigs.
Just the boost numbers.
It's modern day conscription. Oh my god. Send the guinea pigs out. What do you do anyway? Send out the guinea pig. Oh, yeah, they always want pigs. Just the boost numbers. It's the modern day conscription.
Oh my god.
Send the guinea pigs out.
What do you do?
Send out the guinea pigs?
Release the guinea pigs.
They ended up updating the code, making the guinea pig disease
give you a cold rather than resulting in death.
So that's that.
But because this is one of my shorter reports,
I thought we could finish off with some potentially fun facts.
Oh, I can't wait to hear what Jess says to say.
If they grim, I'll let you know.
But I'll for you, listen, as Jess seems, she doesn't allow Dave Rottet to talk about anything
that's a fun fact.
She says she's the only one who can tell if something's wrong.
That's why I've written or not.
These are potentially fun facts.
Yeah, exactly.
And is it?
I am the authority on grim. Yeah, and. And is it? I am the authority on Grim.
Yeah, and I've never tried to step on that.
So Matt, I've got one for you as well.
No, wait, come and for me.
I've got something for everyone here.
I'm the queen of fun facts.
You're coming for the queen.
Well, fuck off.
Watch the throne, I'm coming for it.
No, fuck off then.
I tried to cover fun and Grim here, so hopefully
we got a wide spectrum.
Matt, a number one rule of coming for the throne is don't tell the Queen sitting on the throne
That you're coming for it. Well, you better look at that throne
I'm sitting on it. I can't look at it. I'm sitting on it look down at the throne
Because I'm watching it. No, I'm watching you
I don't want to look down because you're coming for the throne
All right here we go. Fun, grim, or...
We'll decide.
Possibly both.
What's your specialty, Dave?
There's gonna be something else.
Nice.
Lame.
Yeah.
Or just fact, factually fact.
Yeah.
I just fact-check people.
Yeah.
I'm just googling, incorrect.
I'm googling mint right now, so...
In the game, you can pick your race, dwarf, ork, knight, elf, etc.
The most popular race is the human race.
The most beautiful ship is the friendship.
That's so lame.
I know, isn't it?
That is a lame fact.
I mean, the fact that people do that is pretty lame.
You can be anything you want.
There's like 12 or 15, there's something.
I'm going to be a human, that's it.
Yeah, but you say that, but do you know the amount of times I've chosen
the stand-up comedian career and the Sims? That's a good option. That's funny.
Do you get to see them do their bits? In simmits. You get to see their bits.
You get to see their bits. Yeah, that's why you play. If you've got a simmold, yeah, you
can see their bits. Really? Can you see their bits as they're drowning in the pool?
Yeah, probably. What were we, when we did the day and day, which we are gonna do again,
now that we're allowed out again,
we're gonna do another series of,
do go on day and day,
what if we caught it, what do we caught?
Do go on's and dragons.
Yeah.
Well, dungeon than do we go on?
I don't know.
Or do go dungeons and dragons?
Oh yeah.
We had many options,
but we're gonna do more of that.
But anyway, what were,
do you remember,
I can't remember, was a hob goblin?
I feel like a, I feel? I feel like a sub.
I was a monk.
I think my name was Gary Gregson.
Something like that.
Something like that.
I was casino musk-raig.
So you think that.
That's right.
I think I had a good name too.
You can't tell you what it was.
Something shooting star?
Yes, and I found love.
That was great.
Do you know if we play again, we're gonna pick up our characters. I think so yeah, all right
We're gonna have to do that again
Save it on the paper. People haven't heard we're on on the page you get a patreon.com session to go on pod or do go on pod.com
And yeah, there was a four-part series where we played a do go
I do go on Dungeons and Dragons things something like that and it was so much fun
But we're gonna do it again
sometime soon.
But let's-
Adungeon Master.
Frickin' Hell.
Master.
Adungeon Master.
Adam Kanavale.
Is that-
We got it, I think we- yeah, anyway.
I've got dreams to do lots of it.
I've just-
We had a good time.
It was-
It was a good time.
It's fun once you're doing it, but it's funny to be like, Hey, let's spend a good day and Jess. I had a good time. It's fun once you're doing it But it's funny to be like hey, let's spend a week
Also, I mean get on at it get on at it down there in the dungeon the pan day
We did mean we couldn't be in the same room for many months and it's better if we're all together at one big table
Yeah, haven't a go can we make a ruling on that fact though because it wasn't that fun. No
I'm assuming as a fact now wasn't cream so it was like, it's one of Dave's?
Yeah.
Cousin lame.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, that's a bit cute.
It's a sad, I'd say not a grim fact, but a sad fact.
Yeah, it's a sad fact.
People just choose, you can be anything.
Yeah, but it's, I'll be me.
That's, maybe that's beautiful.
Yeah, I think it's still like a form of escape, isn't it?
It's easier to connect to that character and be like, yeah, I could be doing this because
that, they look like me.
Yeah, I can.
I don't know.
Who knows?
Well how about this?
Uh, many celebrities, the big fans of this game, Vin Diesel.
Paul Walker.
Paul Walker.
No, is he Mr. Worldwide?
No.
It's a given a different ball from me.
Pitball.
Pitball and me.
I imagine Pitball played this, but Vin Diesel, Paul Walker, Meal Aconus, Henry Cavill, but they were the only celebrity fans of the game.
He's possibly Grimm fact here, Matt. Robin Williams loved video games, even
naming his daughter Zelda. He also loved World of Warcraft and has an in-game
memorial in... No, that's not a Grimm. That's another beautiful fact. That's nice.
Is that a bit Grimm? I don't think that's Grimm at all. That's another beautiful fact. That's nice. Is that a big grim? I don't think that's grim at all.
That's an aspect.
It's not fun.
People don't have to do it, you know?
It's hard to find.
Well, I shouldn't say that, is it fun?
No, it's not fun.
That's not fun?
No.
How's that fun?
Is that the first thing I'm gonna tell people
if Wow comes up in conversation?
What's the first thing you're gonna tell them?
I don't know.
I haven't listened to most of this. Monkey in a bag whatever. Yeah monkey in the bag. It's in the bag
Okay, I've got two more
Not a good right here. Are you okay getting a bit defensive here mate? No, it's our call to make Dave
I'm gonna be defensive just saying you got two more
I got a big joke nasty here. I
Thought that was little I'm being joke horny
Have I got a movie for you? The mummy!
Triple export parody.
And that's all it's called as an ad-save you.
You had like three or four.
Oh the cami come on.
Look at me.
You think you'd go the daddy, but whatever.
It's daddy's good.
Okay, two more.
Alright, this one's all right, fun.
In 2016, a Warcraft film was released.
Do you remember this?
No.
It went on to be the highest-grossing video game
film of all time.
What?
Wow, even more than Super Mario, brother.
I've got it from NoD here.
Sorry.
Sorry, Super Mario, brother, staring John Legg was on him.
He was directed by David Bowie's son Duncan Jones.
Wow.
Hello, Duncan Jones.
And how has made Duncan Jones?
Is that anything?
Me dad was David Bowie.
I think, well, I can't speak on this,
but it's more fun than Graham will tell you that.
Yeah, that's fun.
Fun fact.
Fuck yeah, great.
Because there's been a lot,
I mean, there was Tomb Raider with Angelina Jolie.
Yeah.
It's been the battleship.
The one at Beat was Prince of Persia.
Oh, what have these got to have been?
Oh, more to combat.
Yeah.
Doom.
Yeah, Street Fighter.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
The Sims.
And a lot of ways any film is the Sims.
Oh my goodness.
My God. Yeah. Well, nothing, it's matter. Sims. Oh my goodness. My God.
Yeah.
One thing that's matter, I mean, they did an emoji film.
Surely it can be a Sims film.
Is that being a Sims film?
Probably.
They've done an Angry Birds.
Oh yeah, that was another one.
That was quite big.
There was a sequel, I believe.
Angry Birds.
Two.
Still angry.
That was a fun game. I'm going to play Angry Birds again. Two. Still angry? That was a fun game.
I'm going to play Angry Birds again.
Right.
I never played it.
What about floppy bird?
No, flappy bird.
Oh yeah.
No one wants a floppy bird.
Gable-to-many beers.
I got a floppy bird.
All right, final one.
Pawn parody of flappy birds.
Floppy bird. It can be a super successful Pawn parody. Alright, final one. Paulan parody of Flappy Bird. Flappy bird!
It could be a super successful Paulan parody.
It's very disappointing what, actually.
Really, it's really not feeling sorry. It's a bit grim, really.
If Word of Warcraft doesn't seem real world enough to you, then you could check out World Joyland,
a theme park located in Changsau in China.
The park's theme is inspired by the video game series World of Warcraft and Starcraft.
It reportedly cost $48 million USD to build, but is not officially licensed or endorsed
by Blizzard.
What the ripoff?
World of Joycraft.
The 48 million.
What was it called?
World of Joyland. a rip off. Hold a joy craft for 48 million. What was it called? World joy land.
What does it say?
Like any connection to it at all.
Well, they rip off everything.
I read a review from the themeparkguy.com.
OK.
OK.
And he claims he visited about 10 years ago that the park also has rip soft stuff from Universal,
Disneyland, and even has a fake Disneyland store.
And I get $48 million.
We'll just have to add it to our list of things to go for our inevitable world to.
Oh, yeah, so I don't want to speak for you, but that to me is fun.
So why do you have to ruin it?
Okay.
No, I jumping in there for how about how about because it's my decision.
Why? Okay, look, let me put it this way
It's not a grim fact. So how about instead you say hey Jess is that a fun fact, okay?
You know, they've star from the top added that bit out. Let's go again. All right
Daniel from Proverse suggested this question
So Jess is this a fun fact it is a fun fact
Sorry Jess, is this a fun fact? It is a fun fact.
Yes, we did it everyone!
That is corrupted blood.
The World of Warcraft pandemic, thank you so so much.
We did it.
Thank you, we did it everyone.
That's a wild story.
What a great story.
Nothing about.
Yeah, it's just one of those ones that in the hat, you know, jumps out to you.
And you go, all right, I'll put this up for the vote.
And of course, it also jumps out to the Patreon supporters of their vote for it.
Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite section
of the show, the fact quote or question section.
And in this section, you can get involved
by going to patreon.com slash do go on pod or do go on pod.com
and sign up on the Sydney Shardberg Dlex Memorial
rest in peace level.
And the white works is once you're on there,
you had all sorts of different rewards, bonus episodes,
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the fun things we do at three of those every month.
We'll go to over a hundred now.
I know, about 110 bonus episodes to check out.
And you sign up, you get access to all those.
You also get to vote on topics like Dave's topic today,
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yeah a bunch of other things and weekly newsletter you'll see get to be in
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what the section is all about so you sign up to that and periodically you get
to give us a factor quote or a question you also get to give us a factor quote or a question. You also get to give yourself a title.
And this section on the show actually has a jingle.
I think it's something like this.
Fact quote or question.
Jingle.
You always remember the jingle.
And this week Dave's going to read them out because I didn't bring my computer.
Dave, I think we got here in the fact the fact very happy to read out a few of these
absolute legends.
Can you read?
No.
Okay.
I'll actually have someone here just bring into my ear.
Oh.
For a listening device.
They can hear what you're saying.
Okay.
And what do you want me to say?
And they can hear what I'm saying.
Passing messages.
God, that's tedious.
Fuck you all.
That seems inappropriate. but I'm saying. I'm passing the messages. God, that's Tadie. Fuck you all.
What?
That seems inappropriate.
Janine, stop it.
Janine.
Not at Janine.
No, no, Janine's 10 year old Max got on the line again.
Piss off Max, piss off.
First up, Janine's telling me I've got to thank Roy Phillips.
Roy Phillips.
Roy.
What was Roy's character on the Simpson's?
Roy. Hey Mr. S. What was Roy's character on the Simpsons? Roy.
Hey, Mr. S.
He just added the cool cousin or something, yeah.
Uh, Roy Phillips, given themselves the nickname, the guy that's running out of good tongue
twisters to screw with Matt.
Oh, well.
You couldn't catch me out with that Roy.
Couldn't catch Janine now.
Janine's all over.
Janine's whispering syllable by syllable through all the hardest tongue twisters.
Roy's given us a question and that question is, hey guys, hope you're all doing well.
My mate Ben is currently listening through all your episodes starting from the beginning.
Last I heard he was on episode 120-something.
Anyway, for one he gets to this episode in July 2022 or whatever, can you all collectively call him a knobhead?
Okay, what was it now?
Ben?
Ben, you're a knobhead.
Ben?
I don't want to do what your friend Roy has asked us to do, because I don't know you.
I didn't think of that.
Just kidding, you're a knobhead!
Got him.
Roy, you're a dickhead.
Ooh. Canine, it's a knobhead. Roy, you're a dickhead. Ooh. Janine, it's a nob head.
Roy, you're a nob head.
Did it.
Got it.
Roy, no, not Roy, Ben, you're a nob head.
Sorry, Roy rules.
Roy rules.
Ben's a nob head.
Roy has written that make both his and my day.
Cheers guys, keep up the good work.
Well, you're both a couple are nob heads.
On your Roy and Ben, that's nice.
That's lovely. It's lovely to get to call you mate a nob head. It's so good that, yeah, you're both a couple and nob here. On your Roy and Ben, that's nice. That's lovely.
Just lovely. You get to call you mate and nob here.
And so good that, yeah, it'll happen at any time.
And Roy doesn't know exactly when it's going to happen.
So just some day in the future, he's just ensuring he's going to get a text from Ben at some point.
That's nice. That's great.
Hey, and their celebrity couple name is Royben.
I'm a Royben here. I don't know if that's anything, but just sort of throw it in.
It's definitely something.
That's everything.
Damn it!
That's what I know to say.
Next, uh, Triptitch Club member.
No.
In fact, quite a question.
What's wrong with you?
I give him the keys.
One week.
Guys, I've got to tell you this is a lot harder than I looked.
Don't say that in front of me. Credit where credit's cheating. I give him the keys one week guys. I gotta tell you this is a lot harder than I look
Credit where credits to the booth to his ego fucking Janine. I really need a boost right now Okay, you know as a tack a big shout out to Nathan Damon Nathan
Title is executive in charge of getting do go on back to Perth in brackets. I mean our borders are open very
Cane well he wrote that ath in brackets. I mean, our borders are open. Very can.
Well, he wrote that a little while ago, I think.
Yeah, let's-
There was a little brief period there where it was.
Well, that's right.
Well, it was actually, you guys were all masked up
until this weekend, but Nathan has given us a question
that is, when are you coming back to Perth?
A fantastic question.
Would love to get back there.
We, there's nothing set in stone.
No.
Let me say that.
And there's nothing set even in a, in a, in a some, like a less stone, something.
Nothing set in play dough.
But we're keen.
We are very keen.
We loved it.
We've only been to Perth once together.
We had a great time.
We also asked for it.
Remember Dave, when we, we went out for ice cream after.
And we were yelling out that everyone should shut their mouth. They're just toilet.
Shut it you toilet.
Shut it you toilet.
You were extremely drunk on a Sunday night.
I heard you guys from...
I stole multiple glasses from the pub.
And then left the Airbnb out of guilt.
Nathan D
Wasn't had a guilt and said no we were getting them home.
It should have taken them with us.
Yeah.
Oh beautiful glasses.
Beautiful.
I owe that pub multiple glasses.
And my life.
But when we get people to ask a question,
we ask them often, it's not that they can answer it themselves.
And Nathan has answered this question,
when are we coming back to Perth?
He's written to give my answer very soon, hopefully.
Oh, great.
Oh, good.
Very soon, hopefully.
I really need to get back
because I will be paying them for those glasses.
Okay. I'm gonna probably do that from here will be paying them for those glasses. Okay.
I'm gonna probably do that from here,
but I want to do an impersonation.
That's right, you're a cashier only kind of guy.
Are you gonna call them a toilet while you're there?
No, no, no.
You should.
I reckon.
Yes.
Be rude while doing a toilet.
Sorry for stealing some stuff from your beautiful establish.
You toilet.
You toilet.
Take my five.
That's good.
Next up is Thomas Doppelwreiter.
Oh, the quiz master.
Well, the nickname is quiz master of the do-go Patreon.
Yes.
So there's a don't know,
Thomas Doppelwreiter,
one of our favorite Austrian listeners,
who writes a quiz often every week
in the Facebook group for our Patreon supporters.
He puts 10 questions in there,
and it's great because people work it out together
because there's nine questions, the tenth one is, what's
the connection between the first nine questions? And people sort of chime in, I reckon number
three, maybe this number five is this and by the end of it they usually get it, which is
good. We've also done a couple of bonus episodes with Thomas's quizzes. One of those made people
angry. Because they got the link and we did not.
And it made him furious.
So we sort of decided maybe we shouldn't do it for the listeners piece of mind.
We don't want them to be mad.
We want them to listen and have fun.
Yeah.
Not be angry at us.
Well, Thomas has given their iPods.
Yeah, don't tell the other iPods.
He loves to ask questions and he's asked us one.
Great.
If you had to choose the most delightful musical interpretation
of the group whose name is one part low temperature
and the other part of thing, Shakespeare would write,
what would you answer?
What?
Because we've got to work together.
The Reddle here, though.
What's the connection?
He's written for me, it would be an educated person
who does research.
All right, let's go through this again, Thomas.
If you had to choose the most delightful musical interpretation of the group,
whose name is one part low temperature, and the other part of the thing,
Shakespeare would write, what would you answer?
Coldplay.
Okay. Yeah, that must be what he's wanting us to say. And And minds of scientists? Is that what he's trying to get us to say?
But what's the Shakespeare part? Play. Cold. Something Shakespeare would write. Low
temperature. Oh, right. I'm not. I'm reading the the commas incorrectly there. Sorry,
if I've phrased that. And what? So what so what's the, what was the first bit again?
Great work just by the way.
You've totally worked it out.
That's a fantastic work.
You've cracked it.
Hopefully no one's yelling at their iPod right now.
And for me it would be an educated person who does research.
Assigned to.
Assigned to.
Right.
That is what he wanted to say.
Well done.
That is very good.
If music be the fruit of love, play on.
Well, I was gonna say-
I love Thomas' question.
I was gonna say two degrees piano, but I didn't really understand what he meant.
Yeah, I did.
Vanilla rice bagpipe.
Thomas' top rider.
That was very well done.
Down it again.
I was perplexed.
I'm so glad Bob was here, because otherwise, I thought it was a question that didn't have
a set answer, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
But...
Monscientists.
Monscientists.
That's very good.
I cannot find that clip.
I watched the whole interview and it's been trimmed out on Shane Wandsone YouTube
channel.
No.
Or I've made it up.
If you have, that's the funniest thing you've ever seen.
That's a good thing.
That's a good thing.
And that's not even rude.
It's not, it's been rude.
That's not even rude.
What's your favorite cold place on my side?
My side.
My side.
Do we need to explain this?
Shane Wands is a cricketer for Australia legend.
He had an interview show briefly.
How about that episodes?
Well, the first episode he had Chris Martin, the cold-placed singer on.
And I'm sure it was during this city ask the question,
what's your favorite cold-placed song? And before you go,
my chance of answer, he answered himself.
Monster Scientist.
So funny.
And I'm sure that Tony Martin on one of his radio shows,
clipped that little bit out and played it a lot.
Yeah.
Matt Tao, I'm really...
You can't talk Tony and I ask,
I guess you'd like.
Yes, Tony.
He loved that kind of question, right?
He would, yeah.
And of course, the final question that he would ask is,
Boxes, briefs, or Commander.
Is that what he asked us?
Yes.
He asked every guess.
What? It's so rude.
What are you wearing?
Funny little question.
But like, what's all ANSA now?
What are you wearing right now?
It's all ANSA at the same time, wearing? What are you wearing? What are you wearing? What are you wearing right now? What are you wearing right now?
What are you wearing right now?
What are you wearing right now?
What are you wearing right now?
What are you wearing right now?
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What are you wearing right now?
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What are you wearing right now? What are you wearing right now? What are you wearing right now? What are you wearing right now? What are you wearing right now? Half the chat was not even an option and I'm offended.
I'll find a one for the fact-quite-a-question is Paul McNally.
Ah, Ranz.
He's that was coming.
Plagerizer in chief of the podcast.
Oh, okay.
Plagerizer.
That's fun.
You got your own little podcast on the side?
So what are you doing?
Do you go, ew, no.
Paul's giving us a fact. I must have talked about this before,
but on the Australian Simpson's episode,
where Bart's going around the map and he has Rand McNally,
I had no idea what that meant.
That's a famous brand of that.
I knew it was funny, I didn't know why.
I thought it might have been like a satellite or something,
but yeah, Rand McNally made me laugh every time if I didn't get it.
Rand of McNally, it's just a fun name.
It's a bit of fun there.
Yeah, that's all it is.
It's a bit of fun.
And that's all we're trying to do here.
I know a lot of people have been listening a few years through the whole episode.
Yeah.
But all you can understand is what's showing up in a bit of fun.
It's fun!
Come on! Oh no! Don't know what happened in miss something. It's a bit fun. Come on.
Oh, no. Don't you want to have a bit of fun?
It's fun.
Yeah, it's my good joint.
That's what we're sounding like.
We're sounding like those kids at a party who peed
very good at the kids.
I just have a bit of fun.
And that's not cool.
That's not on.
That was an example of what not to do.
No.
And you pass the test.
Please stop us.
Would you like to hear a fact from Paul?
Yes. Paul. Hi, guys. Please stop us. Would you like to hear a fact from Paul? Oh, yes.
Paul.
Hi guys.
Hi, I'm Rand.
Now, given that my last fact was actually
about a top you'd already covered, whoops.
I've decided to go back to medical facts.
And here it is.
Thank you Rand.
Love medical facts.
I'd bring up Rand McNally every time he gets a fact in here.
Every time.
A fracture of both kelkenye,
heel burns.
So stained at the same time is called a lover's fracture.
It got its name from being associated with folks
jumping from a window to escape an angry spouse
who discovered their other half in bed
with another man or woman.
Oh.
Nowadays, it's more common in burglars
and drunken eagents falling off stuff.
Keep up the great content and stay safe.
Can I say, that was a grim fact.
Yeah, it's pretty grim.
I enjoyed it.
So the person who finds their partner, Chidi,
on them, they jump out the window.
No.
No, you're busted in someone else's bed.
Right.
You jump out the window.
Okay, so you're with someone whose partner comes in.
Yeah, interesting.
And then you jump out the window and break and break both your heels at the same time.
Al jumping heel first. Yes, this is silly.
Jump butt first.
Yeah, because I head first.
We got most cushions.
We got those butt first.
Your face take most of the blow.
Yeah.
So that's what I do on a weekend.
Again, ask first for me.
Blow it up there!
A little help in the cubicle.
A little help place.
So I, please, bring a straw.
Beware straw.
A little help. Please bring a straw Castle women's thoughts are all cute because
We're gonna have a year and a half they won't let us
discrimination
Place
So that was that now the fourth of the year that's our four fantastic people. I love you guys well
That means it's time to thank a few of our other great supporters who are on the arse prod level
I believe or above and
Normally just comes up with a little game to play we some in due sort of related to the episode
We give them a title or we give them something.
We're giving them a pet who inevitably gets infected with dyes.
Love that.
All right, well first up.
Do you?
Yeah, great.
I mean, yeah, I don't, because there was a few bits in my comedy festival show where I
talk about pets that sort of had bad ends.
But they weren't like they weren't real in my head,
but you could feel some nights
the crowd really felt it fully,
like they were thinking about a real pet.
This is not, we're not talking about real pets,
it's made up things.
Yeah.
Okay, so first up from address unknown,
return to sender, it is Jasmine Hill. Jasmine Hill has a Jaguar Jaguar named Jerry
Jerry the Jaguar
Jerry Jacks and he's got a little cut the sniffles and he dies
In a backpack. Don't worry. They respawn come on. Yeah, they respawn but you will see that it's corpse on the ground and that will be destroyed
Oh, no all right, Jasmine. Hopefully you'll be with that. I'd also have to thank from Robin Hill in New South Wales Australia
It is a will show and make a
Little clown fish. Oh, I like a clown fish. Yeah, Nimo. What's his name? Yes?
Philip Philip the clam fish. Is that a Nemo? What's his name? Yes. Philop. Philop.
Philop the clown fish.
Yeah.
Philop fish.
Love that.
Love that.
And obviously you're bringing out when you're battling
a really bad demon.
Bad demon.
Yeah.
Bring out the clam fish in a bowl of water.
And the demon sort of like a clown.
Yeah, Australian one that instructed acts of the face.
Exactly.
They did.
Shramp.
Shramp straight to the face. Ow. They did. So, act straight to the face.
Ow.
You gotta do it.
You gotta do it.
The clap is just, I've seen some horrible stuff.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
That's a clap, bitch.
I have blired on my fins, this is really awful.
But I've done.
Thank you, Will.
And finally, I'd love to thank from
Maddingley in Victoria, Australia.
It is Nathan Garnsworthy.
Nathan Garnsworthy.
Think of an animal, Matt.
Zebra.
Zebra, Nathan, and the Zebra's name is Harold.
Harold, the Zebra.
I say that because I have a canvas in my house
with the Zebra on it, and we've named him Harold.
Uh, I attribute it.
Anvus with the Zebra on it. Yeah. Like a Harold. Uh, I tripped you anfus with a Zebra on it.
Yeah. Like a, what is that name?
Like a painting.
Okay.
I was picturing a tarp hole.
No, I don't have a tarp hole in with a Zebra on it.
Really?
I have a tarp hole with a dead Zebra in it.
Sure.
I'm waiting for the cleaners to arrive.
Yes. Look, I'm pulling the bloody, you're. I wasn't waiting for the cleaners to arrive.
Yes, well you know, I can't pull in the bloody freezer, can I?
No.
I've got a small freezer.
Certainly not.
Got ice cream in there for treats.
Can I thank some people?
I'd love it.
I'd love to thank, for Moorsville and C. North Carolina.
Is that correct?
Yeah.
Yes.
Gosh, if I have a quick fun fact for that they they're fire trucks actually blue
Well, I tell you who would know that
Dustin Stewart spilt the right way Matt Dusty Stewart great name love that yeah, very good
platypus
named Patricia Patricia the platypus and she's dead
Patricia Patricia the platypus and she's dead
But coming back to life she's gone like that's quite a journey gone but not forgotten. She said yes gone But I've been very journey to the afterlife. Yeah long journey
And hope you got to pay the ferryman
But always fix a price whatever
Whatever that song is
No, don't pay the ferryman
Don't pay till you get to the other side
Oh, that makes sense. The guy who sang Lady and Red his other hit was
Don't Christopher Christopher
I don't know yet. What was he's all about? Don't pay the ferryman. Yeah, wow
There you go. It's a great fun facts tonight. That's fun.
To the UK.
The Christopher Bearcat, another UK.
Actually, I'm a...
In charge of beautiful facts in that.
It's beautiful.
Well, okay, beautiful.
That's a beautiful...
Beautiful.
Yes.
I would also like to thank from location unknown.
Oh, the moooons!
The fortress of the moooons!
Can I have your shoe?
Charlie, walk. Oh, Charlie fortress of the mums! Can I have a guess?
Charlie walk.
Charlie walk.
Charlie walk.
I'm thinking...
Do you know you're a monkey?
Do you know you're a monkey?
Do you know you're a monkey?
Do you know you're a monkey?
Were you giving us what's happening inside your mind?
Out like that?
I was remembering a song that has mentioned a lot of animals.
It's called Chicken Payback.
I actually just said chicken, but I was waiting to get to the next animal.
And what's the main point?
I'm not sure what that would be, because I'm thinking I'm probably confusing it for another song that I'd walk in.
It may be like, is there a song called Chicken Walk?
Not that I'm aware of, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Okay, well, you know, we all work in mysterious ways.
But you went for monkey?
Monkey.
What type of monkey you're in, I don't know, a lot of you.
Oh, guess I'll go with one of the classic squirrel.
Oh, squirrel monkey.
Squirrel monkey.
Named.
Squirrel.
Sigh.
Squirrel.
Squirrel sigh.
Squirrel sigh. Squirrel. I saw... Squirrel. Squirrel saw.
Squirrel saw.
Squirrel saw the squirrel monkey.
I don't know, I didn't mean...
My thought was coming through underway and Jess had already said something.
Squirrel squirrel.
What were you guys?
I was going to say Simon, but I think squirrel, squirrel, the squirrel monkey.
Okay.
Love that.
Great.
Good teamwork there.
Charlie Walk. I love that name. And finally for me,
from Arlington VA, Virginia, Christine walk. I think Christine might have given away
Charlie's address. Well, I mean, maybe, but wouldn't it be crazy if they sign up at the same time,
have the same surname, but aren't relay this one. It's one of them losing the fortress of the moles.
Should I get to the next bit of this song?
To check and stay back monkey to the monkey back back
to the monkey back pay back the monkey
maybe back the monkey.
Bam, bam.
Bam, bam.
Bam, bam.
Bam, bam.
I'm just trying to help you.
I don't know what you're doing.
I'm just trying to help you. I don't know what you're doing.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. you like, Christine. He's dead. Doesn't mind his dead.
Imagine lugging around Walter.
Walter the Walrus.
He's Emmy.
Love their teeth.
He ain't heavy.
He's my walrus.
He's my Walter.
God, that's beautiful.
He ain't heavy.
I would love to thank the people now.
He's my Walter.
Okay, God.
I'd like to thank from Edmonton in...
What are we looking at here?
In Canada.
Canada.
I would like to thank Sandy Paha.
I think the Edmonton oil is, would I be correct and send that to?
Yeah, that's right. I've got the Prodigy parody shirt.
That's right.
Sandy Paha. from Edmonton.
Crab.
Oh, crab, a love of crab.
Sandy Crab.
So, Pet's named after a love of that.
Yeah, her pet crab is also named Sandy.
It does get a little confusing.
I want to clarify that the crab is dead.
Yeah, there's named Sandy.
Yes.
Oh, but Sandy is dead.
Which one of us is the crab? Ah, the dead one.
Oh, that was close.
Oh, and you're Sandy.
Almost killed Sandy.
Good luck with your crab.
I would like to thank now from Byram in MS.
Now, is that Mississippi,
Minnesota, Minnesota?
Oh, both questions.
Oh my goodness.
Hello, Missouri's MZ. Oh my goodness. Well, like, I'm Missouri's MZ.
That's, we're looking at Mississippi.
Oh, and like, double S, double I.
That's BBI.
That's double R.
I would like to see through me.
Mine's better.
And my double S, double S, double P, I, I learned that from Alvin and the chick monks.
I let mine from...
Chipmunks.
Explore a pedia.
It was an educational computer game
I loved it back in my day the only educational computer game was Alvin and the chip monks
Well from Mississippi. It's Kiana Jackson
Jackson, I mean all of them are fantastic. I'm good. A two-can. Oh, that's great.
I love two-cans.
They're very cool. Two-can-named.
Terri.
Terri.
She can Terri as well.
Fantastic. Terri with two-can.
That's great.
Thank you, Keanu.
And finally, for me, I'd like to thank from
a county Dublin.
Alla McGraw.
I think alla McGraw might be my favourite listener name.
I've got so many favourites, but all of the Magra, what a fantastic name.
All of them are fantastic.
I think all of the Magra is the first or all I knew.
Now there's an Aula who just won the AFLW Grand Final.
Oh cool.
And I'm like, it's now no two Aulasers. And I just think it's a fucking sick name.
It's great.
Alla.
Amazing name.
Really good.
And an animal for alla.
Octopus.
Ow.
Octopus Ow.
An octopus Ow named Marsha.
Oh, that's nice.
Now, okay Jess, is it an octopus that can fly or an underwater winged?
We are birthed and swim, the bear.
Underwater bird.
Underwater bird.
Penguin style?
Yeah.
I like the penguin.
Is it a penguin?
No, we were...
Early guys, I didn't know they were like, what is this?
Underwater bird.
It's some sort of an octopus out.
Flying octopus.
But it is in penguins.
It's an octopus lost four of its legs.
All of my grarr.
Masha, the penguin. The penguin. I love penguins. My favorite bird I think.
Tricken? Masha penguin. What's your favorite
bit? Masha penguin. Oh I haven't thought about it.
Hmm. I like like cockatoo's they're beautiful. Oh you're
okay. I like owls they're fun. Yeah I like those
little owls they cool. I like rozilas. Yeah they're okay. I like owls, they're fun. Yeah, I like those little owls, they're cool.
I like Rosillas.
Yeah, they're pretty good.
They're lovely, nice colors, I like parrots.
I'm a core.
I really love a Willie Whagtail.
I love Willie Whagtail.
A lot of personality for how small they are,
their tail is so ridiculous.
They just go, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby.
Yeah, they're flying in and out.
I like what about a fairy-ren?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, okay. Beautiful.
Little bird.
Little blue bird.
Oh, he's made it creepy.
We just talked about nice little birds.
I think you made it creepy.
I think you made it beautiful.
Now I make beautiful little bird.
You went very deep and said a beautiful little bird.
You looked deep in my eye and said that.
You're not stopping that fairy-ren.
Get out of our eyes.
Get out of my eyes.
Now we're all horny.
I'm gonna have to watch the mummy.
Not the Brendan Fraser movie,
even though that also turns me on.
But I do, no, I love penguins.
I reckon penguins are fantastic favorite bird.
There I said it.
Well that leaves us with nothing else to do,
but to induct a few members into the tripletage club.
But before I do that, I should quickly just
rethink the names.
I think it's what I normally do.
Re-thank them.
Re-thank them.
We had all a Keana, Sandy, Christine,
Charlie, Dustin, Nathan,
Will and Jasmine.
What a beautiful,
cropped name.
Good luck with your death.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Look, where I forgot I killed them.
I think they're also beautiful.
Dave, why did, I mean, can we not, can you recode them
so all those animals, they all get resurrected.
Okay, they're all fine.
They all respawn.
They'll have a nice time,
but they are definitely dead for a bit there.
Hey, hey, if we're onto the Trudage Club.
We are.
I, I've got the laptop here.
I'm willing to step up if you trust me.
I would really.
I've already fucked up the fact I've got a question by calling I'm willing to step up if you trust me. I would really I've already fucked up
The fact I got a question by calling it the Trudish Club, but I reckon I can bring it home
So Dave you room out
I'm gonna help you hype Dave and then I'll hype Jess
Is that how we do it? No, Jess will hype the people being brought in
I don't want to do that. Oh, so I'm hyping them then
You're the people and I'll hype you. Okay, fantastic.
That sounds good.
Before we get to that, I can only assume
Christopher Berg has been contacted.
Could you book him?
We've booked a Christopher Berg.
If not, if he's unavailable,
we've got Australia's number on Christopher Berg.
He'd have to play all two hits.
Oh, he knows them both.
He knows them both.
And he knows the words, most of the words
the second one.
So maybe let me quickly explain this part for anyone listening who doesn't know it.
If you're a supporter of this show on the shout out level or above for three straight years,
then you get inducted into the Triptage Club, which is a beautiful room.
It's sort of much like the Qantas Club at the airport where you get to go in and
just put your feet up.
I feel like there's a spar in there, there's a masseuse area.
Much like the Qantas Club.
Yeah, you know, you've got a buffet.
Yeah.
There's a beautiful bar, Jess is behind the bar, she comes up with a brand new cocktail
or not necessarily brand new, but it keeps updating the menu every week.
Have you brought in a new cocktail?
Yeah, we've got the wow cocktail to special this one.
Who is whiskey?
Oxygen whiskey.
Wow.
Wow.
So wow.
You will get fuck fuck yeah.
I know any sort of audors.
Yeah, Christopher Burgers.
Made by Australia's number one, Christopher Beck tribute artist. He's also a chef. Yeah, they're pretty average. Oh, that's exciting. By his song and in burger.
And the way it works is Dave is standing on the door. He's got the velvet rope. He's ready to lift it up. He's got his clipboard with a few names on the guest list.
If you're on the list, he will let you in and you don't even have to be wearing the right shoes.
He'll let you in as long as your name is on the list, you can come on in.
And then once you come in, this week normally Dave does this job,
hyping up. You just so you come in feeling on top of the world. Not only have you been led into the club,
I'm gonna give you a little compliment based on either your name or your place of residence.
And then to make me feel good because
often these don't go that well, Jess will come in and then lift me back up.
That's right, because I'm very strong.
How many of you got come in today?
Six hot names.
Six and a half day, love that.
Love a half day.
Sometimes a day's too much.
Damn right.
Sometimes you know what a filth full day. Yeah, I'm so just because I have minimum minimum date
So nice back to them, but not so much cover of a static a some minimum day
Couple of dimmies for the dry phone what is wrong with that?
the driver. What is wrong with that? What is wrong with that?
What are you got six names?
Matt's going to hype him.
I'm blanking the money. Beautiful.
I would like to thank first of all and welcome
into the club from
a Rundle in Queensland.
It's Bonnie Dixon.
Bonnie Dixon from Queensland.
You're my queen welcome in.
Yes, you're my queen, Bondoos.
Boom from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
please welcome Ashley Van Morick.
Hey, you're Ashley Van Morish to me.
Can't get enough of you.
Welcome in.
Yum, yum, yum.
From Q in New South Wales, it's Michael Kenden.
Michael Ken, Ken Don, you're a work of art to me, baby.
Yeah.
You're an astronaut.
I'd like to thank from Hammondville in New South Wales.
Will Thurston.
I will Thurston, you're making me thirsty.
It's so beauty, not your value, welcome in.
Oh, trick him up.
I'd like to thank from Woodland Hills in California, IA.
It's Jeremy Swade.
Jeremy Swade, you feel beautiful to touch.
You're giving me a word, they're welcome in.
Too much.
You're right, not your value, not your value.
Beautiful to touch, but I can't even get in your pants, mate.
I would like to thank finally from Cramon in New South Wales.
It's Craig Scroobach.
Craig Scroobach, I will not mourn your entry.
I will celebrate a welcome in, let's party till dawn.
Yeah, let's come on till dawn.
Great work.
It is, I gotta say, what?
You make it look easy Dave.
It feels more difficult.
Well, I like this, we all have a go.
It feels for collaborative and the...
I'm not having a go.
Great fun. Are you having a go it feels for collaborative and I'm not having a great great are you having a go you haven't got me that was great that was fun I
think finally after five years we figured out how to do it well done everyone I
mean I can't help but feel a little offended by saying that but that was fun
that was fun that's fun that you read them out beautifully hats offats off to Janine, Jane, Graffalo and Yuri.
Yeah, Janine doing a great job. She's kept max off.
I think Max has gone to bed. Her 10-year-old son
who kept getting on the fuck off max.
A bit late for max. Yeah. It's a bit late for us.
So we better go. Yeah, that's good.
Hey, thanks so much for listening to the show. If you want to get in contact
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We are hoping to do some more live shows in the back half
of this year, so stay tuned.
Social media will be announcing those
as well as on the shows themselves.
And of course, if you wanna come to the mummy,
September the 10th, and just to confirm it,
it's the Brendan Fraser film, not the porn parody.
I'm gonna have to go back to the leader cinema
and just double check the hasn't been any miscommunication.
Which, if you are listening like way in the past,
we get this from people sometimes, like they catch up
and they go, I didn't realize you're about to come to a live show in my town. Follow us on social media and
then you won't even even if you're not up to date on the pods, you know, just follow on the social
media and we'll keep you up to date. Social media, don't at me. I know media is already the plural.
Imagine I'm actually, social media is already the plural. I get that kind of feel a lot in a lot of TikTok videos, I say people are preemptively defensive.
And it's like what?
It's like well, I'm set up there.
What kind of community have you created?
So where they're like, I know, I know I said this but what...
Don't come at me for it!
Anyway, here's a rest of my story about how I found out my husband was cheating on me.
And it's like, there's a lot happening at the moment.
I'm only joking about the arm actually.
It's not many people do it.
Oh no, I just just reminded me of this general vibe I've seen on Twitter.
That's a sad vibe.
On Twitter, on TikTok.
Anyway, don't forget your name.
You're the fuck out of here.
You're cool and young, we get it, Jess.
I don't know anything.
Oh, so you're getting contact.
And of course, you're getting contact and of course you're
going to suggest a topic. This one was suggested by those awesome people and the only way I ever
found out about it was because people put it in the hat and anyone can do that by clicking
the link in the description of this episode or going to our website do go on pod.com but until
next time we will thank you so so much for listening and until then, I will say goodbye!
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