Do Go On - 292 - Ada Blackjack: The Real Robinson Crusoe (with Cass Paige)

Episode Date: May 26, 2021

In 1921, a small crew set off from Nome in Alaska to Wrangel Island, 85 miles off the northeast coast of Siberia. Due to her work on this expedition, Ada Blackjack would be lauded in the press a couple of years later - tune in for the story!For tickets to Matt's shows in Sydney and Melbourne: https://www.mattstewartcomedy.com/ Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodBuy tickets for our screening of The Mummy on September 10: https://www.lidocinemas.com.au/mummyBuy tickets to our streamed shows (there are 12 available to watch now! All with exclusive extra sections): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Check out Matt’s Beer show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej4TUguJL58 Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/ada-blackjack-arctic-survivor

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.

Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal, and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Hey, mate, just Matt checking in before the start of the show to let you know that my solo stand-up shows are on sale. Brisbane is now sold out, but sold out pretty quick, but there's still tickets available for Sydney on the 8th of June at the Chippo Hotel and the live taping at the stupid old studios in Melbourne on the 17th of June.

And you can get tickets for those shows via Matt Stewartcomedy.com. Matt Stewartcommon. Please use the discount code. Do Go On for a discount for you, Do Go On listeners. All right. Now, on with the show. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On.

My name is Dave Warnikey and as always I'm here with Matt Stewart. Hey Dave, how's it going? It's so good to be here. Great to be here with you. But not as always. We are joined by a special guest today. It's Kaspage. Hello, everybody.

Hello, Kaspage. It was. good to do go from my house and come on this episode with you. That's great. If you say, if do go is in capitals and the rest is in very lower case and then it goes back to on. Oh, we got subscript happening. I love that.

I told Cass before the show, she has to say that in every sentence. That's the whole idea of this show. You've got to say do go on in every... That's right. Cass has never heard the show and she thinks that's what this is. Oh, I do. Go on. Damn, she's good.

Very good. does the same thing on primates. Just every sentence is primates, this primates that. And yes, anyway, Dave, can you explain to Cass and the listeners first time as what this show is? Well, Cass, we are so pleased to be joined by you this week. Thank you so much for coming along. Thank you for having me. What we do here is we take it in terms of a report on a topic, often suggested by a listener.

One of us takes that topic, goes away, does a bit of research, brings it back to the group. People for people, it sounds like. Very nice of them to do that. And, you know, being Mr. Naskar this week, it's Matt Stewart's turned to report. And you can attest to this. It's, it's, some people think that we pretend that we don't know, but you and I genuinely don't know what Matt is about to report on. No idea.

He's got one of those laptops that you can't see the other side of. He's got a one-way laptop. One-way laptop. How many two-way laptops have you seen in your time? Like, yeah. Oh, look, if, I think Elon Musk has one. Yeah, he would, perf. but I haven't seen it in real life.

I've seen this Starlink in real life. You know the... Oh, up in the sky. Yeah. Bunkers. A man I know about only in sort of extract of mind in my line of vision. Get off of the sky, mate. You're on the telly.

He's everywhere. It's very possible that it could be a report on Elon Musk, but we always start with a question. Matt's going to ask us that question. That's right. For new listeners, Jess is normally here, but she's not. No, that'd be for old listeners. New listeners wouldn't give a shit about that. Old listeners, Jess is fine. She's just, she's on a holiday.

She's on a vacay. She is. We wish her all the best. She's having a great time out there. She's boogie boarding. She's climbing rocks, rock climbing, if you will, doing all sorts of these. Absailing. Not sure if any of that's true, but she's having a good time. That's all we know. High roads course, I heard. Yeah, yeah, exactly. He's very active, very outdoorsy. All right, Cass. So this is the question. Yes. Someone is out there telling. the score. So you could get on the board if you answer this question correctly. But Dave is also obviously in the game. I am currently on the board, but I'm the lowest on the board. So actually, this could go well for me either way because if I get it right, I'll go up one. But if you get it

right, there'll be someone below me now. That is exciting. That's good. All right. And I try to write because I don't know, I hadn't heard of this chapter of history before. So I'm assuming you two might not of either. So I'm asking the question in a way that you'll have a definite chance of answering. The question is what card game does badass 1920's explorer share her name with?

She says, that's poorly written. That doesn't make sense. Does A bad ass or just badass? What card game does... Does badass? So her first name's Aida, a second name is a card game. And then, and she's she was on

a relatively famous expedite in the 1920s, famous in the day, back in the day, maybe not so famous now. So you just got to guess a card game, basically. Okay. Do you want to go first cast? You got a card game on the mind? Okay, look, I am going to throw away my first guess, which was Ada up and down the river. That's a great name.

And it makes sense if she's an explorer of some sort. Yeah. Yeah, well, it would make, if you got to pick your last names, I probably would do that one. You pick that one? No, but, oh, as in as if you and I personally, the humans that we happen. We got to pick our last names. Well, I'd also pick this name.

It's very cool. It's also a card game, Rummy. No, it's not Rummy. Good name, though. We'll give you one last guess each. I'm going to give you a clue. It's casino card game. Blackjack.

Yes, correct. Aida Blackjack? Aida. That's cool. Not even annoyed I didn't get that because that is awesome. I am, oh. You're on the board. Yeah.

Oh, board on. You're welcome. What a name. What an amazing. name. Aida Black, and that's a legit name. Legit name, yes.

Destined for greatness. Ada Blackjack's story was suggested by listeners, including Jessica Bannerzak in Perth, Western Australia, Alicia Moore from McKinney, Texas in the US, or Plato, Texas. She suggested it about a year apart from two different Texan postcodes. Well, she suggested it at home, commuted to work, and then thought, Did that go through? Well, I'm here now.

I'll do it again. That's possible. That is possible. You got a double-tappy submission. That makes sense. Chris Smith from Peoria in Illinois, USA. And Olivia Krieger in Calgary in Alberta, Canada. Okay.

So, I mean, it was slightly misleading maybe saying she's an explorer because that is not at all how she began. But she sort of in the end. She wasn't a born explorer. Wasn't a born an explorer. Like most are, you know. Yeah, that's right. They come out wearing car key and they're ready to go with a safari hat. So this all takes place in 1921 when a small crew set off from Nome,

I should have looked up how to pronounce that, N-O-M-E, in Alaska, heading for Wrangell Island, 85 miles off the northeast coast of Siberia. The expedition was charged with claiming the island for Canada and the British Empire. The crew was put together by one another name I should have looked up the pronunciation of. Phil Helmue Stephenson. Stephenson was born in 1879 in Manitoba, Canada, and his parents had immigrated from Iceland two years prior. One of Dave's favourite countries.

Oh, I love it. Definitely in the top two. Do we have a one? Yeah, sure. The Bahamas. Fantastic choices. Iceland are the Bahamas. Classic bedfellows.

Yeah, that's right. You go to one. You cool off and then warm up. It's how to best treat any of your muscle pains. It's how the rich do it. They go to the Bahamas. They go to Iceland. They go to Bahamas.

They go to Iceland. One then the other. That's right. Until your legs are feeling good. Yep. So Stevenson went on to study at the University of Iowa and then the University of North Dakota. I don't know.

know which order it was in. Probably doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And then he went on to study anthropology at the Graduate School of Harvard. In 1904 and 1905, Stephenson was in his parents' homeland of Iceland conducting archaeological research. Then in the following years, he was recruited to be a part of the Anglo-American Polar Exhibition, Expedition, very different thing. He's just shown some pictures. So is he some sort of art curator? Look at everything I learned at school. That's a professional show and tell. And then in 1906 and 2007, he lived with the Inuit people of the McKenzie Delta.

Then according to a website called Wikipedia.org. He and Dr. Arr... Matt always brings that one up. Never heard of it. Yeah, it's actually... I mean, I'm trying to get the word out there. They're a very good website. And you think it's trustworthy?

Yeah, yeah. And so dot org. Dot org. Yeah, I don't know what that's... short for, but it sounds like fun to me. But anyway, from Wikipedia.org, he and Dr. R.M. Anderson undertook the ethnological survey of the Central Arctic coasts of the shores of North America from 1908 to 1912.

So he's in work. He's getting out there. He loves the cold. He loves checking things out. He goes to the Bahamas and warm up. He's going to get bung muscles for sure. Yeah, for sure. If he just stay cold, it's all over.

You're going to freeze up? Yeah. No warm-up, old cool-down. It's a recipe for pulling a muscle. It's all cool down for this guy. Well, maybe that's why. Maybe he needed to hit the Bahamas in between because the next thing he got up to was in 1913

when he organised and directed a Canadian Arctic expedition for the government of Canada. This expedition was ill-fated and is now referred to as the last voyage of the Carluck, which ended with nearly half of the 25-person population. party perishing. What a pee sounds. A lot of posives there.

Oh, is it nearly half because 25 isn't divisible by two? Yeah, that's right. Yes. Was it 12? I think it might have been 12. Oh, gosh. That's all. But do we have any information about anyone maybe losing a limb?

Could it have been half? Frostbite does kill part of you. That's true. Maybe enough fingers and toes went to make up another half person, a half pee. How many fingers and toes make up half a pea? Oh, it's quite a few. A few sets. Yeah, for a few sets.

Probably the remaining 13. No one came out with fingers auto. One of those who died, one of the 12-ish who died was a guy called Alistair Mackey or Mackay. Does that ring a bell, Dave? He had previously been part of the Ernest Shackleton. Shackleton's Endurance or the Shackleton. Oh, fantastic expedition. I know one of his descendants.

Really? Yeah. Because one of our episodes that people still talk about from years ago was Dave did a report about Shackleton's. Yeah, it's an amazing story of survival. Very sad to hear that that guy went through all of that only to die up north. But who's the descendant of Ernest Shackleton or someone on the endurance? Yeah, yeah, just to line down descendant of Ernest Shackleton. Amazing.

Super lovely. Name Shackleton? Yeah. It's brilliant. It's a great name. It's so fun you want to keep it right. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely.

Oh, that's great. And one of my favorite bands from high school wrote a song that referenced Shackleton. What was your favorite man from high school? Enter Shikari. And I'm trying to remember the name of their song. It was about how we need to save the environment. Release the slugs.

Because the polar caps were melting. Right. And how Shackleton would be rolling in his grave. A beautiful message. With the way that we're treating the Arctic at the moment. He loved the ice. He loved the ice. He didn't want to say it melted.

No, well, that'd be sad. But then I guess the captain of the Titanic, he'd be doing the opposite of rolling over in his grave, wouldn't he? Melt that shit. What's the opposite of rolling? He'd be lying dead still in his grave. Yeah, that's right. Absolutely motionless with joy.

Just giving a couple of thumbs up. Keep melting it, guys. So, Stephenson, he had this career, you know, getting in and amongst the ice. But he obviously survived. He was one of the 13 survivors. Yes, he was. And I mean, I didn't go into too much detail

because it feels like it could be a report in itself down the line. But there were accusations that he sort of, he went off on a hunting expedition. And he didn't realize that the boat was going to hit trouble. But some are like, he knew what he was doing. He was sort of fleeing. Oh, as in he went off and was like, I'm doing my own thing. I'm going to go, I'm taking a few people,

We're going to go get some food for everyone. You guys stay here. Do you guys want anything? We're going out. Does anyone... We're going to hit the casino. You're good? Okay, what I'm hearing is you're good and we will go.

We'll go. Help. Cool, cool, cool. Help. Sorry, kelp. Yeah, I'll get you some kelp. No worry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's a, yeah, sort of a seaweed. It's not like, kelp us. Help us. Yeah, I'll kelp us. Yeah, probably the encounter's hunting, so it will take longer now because that would be foraging and I was planning to hunt. I thought you said honey exhibition. It is tricky. Imagine that.

It would not go to anyone that if you said, I'm off to a honey exhibition. We are cold and starving. Yeah, but you know, a virus feed. I don't want to let these bees down. You know what these apiurists are like. They worked really hard. Take it a little too seriously.

Did you, remember when that stuff came out where someone did all the equations required to figure out how much honey would cost if we paid bees a living wage, minimum wage. It was stupidly expensive. I asked because I couldn't remember the number. But imagine heaps.

Yeah, that does make some sense. What are they spending the living wage on? It's not like a single bee squirts a jar out of day or whatever. It'd take quite a few of them. That's the thing. It takes so many bees to go collect the little pollen pants. Have you seen bees after they've collected pollen? It looks like they're wearing little pants.

It's really good. Their legs are all fat with pollen. They look like the old-fashioned pants that go really fat at the thigh. It's brilliant. It's all the buzz. And when they go back to the thing, they have to turn it into honey, which is some sort of body process. And there's, you know, I'm sure they didn't factor this in,

but I would imagine there'd be some like, you know, you'd probably get hot work pay, dangerous conditions pay. You work for one dictator as well. Yeah, it's probably not great. Um, yeah, not great working conditions. Hey, I, I just want to put it out there. Not work I'd love to do. All right.

You don't want to come back as a B in your next life. Yeah, imagine if like to buy ice, you have to pay all the individual molecules. A living wage. A living wage. Like if you just want every molecule that made up the H2O, it would be expensive. Yeah. Or maybe. What about what other things to animals get involved in?

And we're just like, that's fine. Okay, figs, how figs have to have a wasp dye in them. To get pollinated or to grow into a fig or something? Okay, I'm trying to remember what a fig is. Figs of fruit, tastes very good with blue cheese if you put it in the oven. Oh, yeah. Oh, come on, Matt, you know, the blue cheese ornament. They go well with a tasting platter.

Figs. I know fig jam means is like a put-down for someone who thinks they're pretty good. Good. Yeah. It's an acronym. It's an acronym. Yes. Yes, it is. All right. Anyway, I've lost. So, yeah, I guess. I mean, the difference between my water and ice thing and yours is bees probably. They're more, is water alive? You know, where do you draw a line there? Some people have hard boundaries. I'm actually a level 17. Um, so. Yeah, ice can cast a shadow. Water.

But water has difficulty, but ice definitely does. Really? Okay, that's where I draw the line between water and ice. Anyway. So, but I think you were trying to say that we're a bit suss on this guy. Yeah, I think he's, you know, how good at it he is. But anyway, he's... Well, he's very good at it if he knows when to...

Sometimes the best thing you can do is quit, and knowing when to quit is a skill. That's right. No one to hold him and fold him like his friend. Blackjack. Oh, yeah. Yeah, when's she coming in? Soon.

Just setting it up because the only reason she gets over there is because of this guy, Stephenson. He continued with Exploration still 1918. At one point, apparently, he survived a 96-day stretch. Same. Only eating animals, Arctic animals he shot with his rifle. So he was carrying 96 bullets with him the whole time. It would have to be more because he's not going to get it every time. Well, what if they line up in front of it?

each other. That's right. I don't think he had to eat one animal a day either. Maybe he had... And is this a thing... He might have shot a big one and had it over a few days. Okay, no, no, that is... That genuinely helps me understand it a bit better.

But do you think he's proud of this? Like he's like, I went off and did this or did he do it for survival? I think it was for survival, yeah. Right, it wasn't like bragging. Yeah, it seemed to happen a bit where they, you know, not as much was known about when ice was going to block your ships in and whatever. Not like all the stuff I know about it now. So by the time of the 1921 expedition,

he had many years of experience surviving and exploring Arctic regions. With this in mind, how confident are you feeling about this upcoming expedition to Rangel Island? I'm feeling so confident. Like I said, this guy knows when to keep going and when to back off.

Right. When to leave the party. Okay, well, actually, that holds up. That definitely holds up. So this is from an article in Atlas Obscura, written by Tessa Hulls, and she describes Stephenson as a charismatic Arctic explorer, but calls the expedition, at best, an ill-conceived venture.

At worst, it was a willfully negligent act of astonishing hubris. Using the pull of his celebrity as a seasoned explorer, Stephenson assembled a team of four starstruck young men, Alan Crawford, 20, Lorne Knight, great name, 28, Fred Mora, 28, and Milton Gawl, 19, to claim Rangel Island for the British Empire, even though Britain had never shown the slightest interest in wanting it.

He's just taken it on himself for some reason to take this island off the coast of Siberia. No one wants it, no one wants this, mate. He's like, I'll get it for you. I'll get it. I'm going to go get it. That's a classic tale of being like, oh, I'll bring the, this is for the queen? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah.

So he is a big. That is the king. King. Oh, king, okay. And queen. Well, there would have been a queen as well. That's right. The current queen's dad.

Is that who we're dealing with in the 20s? So our grand king. Dave is our resident monarchist. That's right. That's why actually I should say I do support the monarchy of B. the queen respect to her. I do too, and I think we should, I do think we should pay. It must have sounded like I was trying to put down the bees by talking about ice,

but I was really just trying to bring it back to the ice report and really sounded like I was having a swap at bees, but I love the work they do out there. I'm pretty sure. Isn't it something like we wouldn't exist without them? Yeah, well, they're pollinators, so a lot of our fruit and vegetable requires a bee. or millions, and we need them to eat.

Okay, I love eating, so I love bees. Pay bees a living way. Give bees a chance. But I, oh, no. I'm not editing, so don't let me say anything else like that. It was King George V. Oh, so he was pretty much like, if I impress dad, maybe I'll be good. maybe everyone will think I'm good.

It's got that kind of vibe about it, isn't it? Also, I've noticed maybe it's just the things I've read. But any time a story starts off by describing someone as charismatic, it never ends well, does it? When that's the leaning trait, someone dies. Yeah, they always use that charisma for something not so good. Yeah, people have been sucked into something. It's not like a cult leader or something like that.

Someone wants to describe pretty much, how it's not the victim's fault. Yes. You know? How do they get pulled into this? Well, they were charismatic. You're about to question why someone would do this well, I need to say. They were very charismatic.

Just to let you, just to remind you, we all want friends. Okay. Keep in mind your need for human connection as we go into this story. So you, you know, all this experience Stephenson has, he's putting this team together. He wants to put the flare. in their climate for daddy. This will make Dad love me.

Daddy George. So you'd assume that he'd be there in the expedition as part of the team, right? Oh, right. Yeah, for sure. Not just like controlling everything from Zoom or something. Well, no, it was more of the Zoom option. Checking in. Hey guys, how's it going out there?

Great. Cool, I'm just sitting in front of my fire at home. Yeah. And Cass, you said before, like he knows. went to, he knows when to quit. And I mean, well,

that's, I guess he pre-quit this one. He never even went. That's, well, I guess if you're that charismatic, go into management. You know,

you're halfway there. Damn right. But so, this is something that no one wants him to do, and then he can't even be asked doing it himself. Yeah, that's right. So he sort of,

he helped fund it. I think he organized, he got the cash together. Right. But, yeah, he, for whatever reason, he didn't go out there himself.

According to a, Hulls, though Stephenson picked the team and funded the mission, he never had any intention of joining the party himself and sent his woefully inexperienced team North with only six months of supply and hollow assurances that the friendly Arctic would provide ample game to augment their stores until a ship picked them up the following year. The friendly Arctic. That's in quotations. That's where he said. The rest, because I really, I think Hulls maybe was overplaying the team's inexperience a bit. A couple of them, including Fred Mora, for instance, was a relatively experienced seaman who had survived eight months on Rangel. It actually survived on Rangel Island for eight months, seven years prior.

So he's been there. He's been there. If people have been there, how is he not, it's certainly, it must have been claimed, right? Yeah, it's, well, it's just off the coast of Siberia. I mean, it already had a name. The idea of claiming it is definitely, I'm guessing it's a violent thing they're going to try and do. No, it's, well, it's, it's not, it's not an island that Britain even has its sights on. It's not like, to them, they didn't see it as a useful space or anything.

It was like a wilderness. So, hang on, when they said they're going to go claim it then, what do they mean? They just wanted to change the colour on the maps, I guess. you know, just went there and put a flag down. So does that... And then hope that everyone else is like, yeah, that flag counts, even though this is kind of already Russia.

The guys already been there. Yeah. Popping in and out. I've lived there. There's a jet ski zooming around outside. Then why go? There's a general store. Why go is a great question.

Just, it would be cheaper to just print new maps and tell lies. Yeah, exactly. Who's going to check? There's a flag there. You just have a look. Who's going to check? When did those girls figure out how to fake the fairy photographs? They were children, you know?

That was... Similar time to this, yeah. Yeah, exactly. It would have been... They could have faked it. He also... I think it was also for scientific research, which is often, you know, the secondary reason.

Oh, yeah. Like how we've discovered... Number one glory. ...turtles are delicious. Yeah. And yeah, so the idea of this boat coming. a year down the track to pick them up. Others said the different,

it's one of those stories that isn't super well documented, so there's varying details about it. Some were like the ship was coming to pick them up. Some were saying they were meant to be there for two years and it was going to drop off supplies or maybe drop off supplies and change over the crew. But anyway, a ship was meant to be coming the following year, either way. And that was all part of you only need six months of supplies.

heaps of animals to kill and eat there. So, no stress. Anyway, I'm at home. I'm the feet up. If one of the guys has already been there, surely he would know if that's a lie or not, right? Yeah, that's right. Oh, no, no, since you live there,

we've actually dropped off like 10,000 cattle. So there's heaps of me. Yeah, it's totally different to when you were there, sure. Great, because it was barren when I was there. Also, wait, how old? He would have been, yeah, he would have been 20 or 21 when he was there. So I imagine when he was there, he would have been a young apprentice or whatever seaman. So potentially, it's hard to know how much he would have actually known.

Now he's going as a senior member of the party. Well, I mean, all of them are senior members. But he wasn't very observant as a child. Who knows? Maybe he was. Maybe he wasn't. Yeah, so Mora, who survived time on Rangel Island, And that was in 1914 after the shipwreck of the carluck, which I talked about before.

Oh. So they wrecked on that island? Yeah. It wrecked near that island. In ice, you know, I think it's that area. Does the ice just grow out from a landmass, you know, like because the water's freezing or whatever? Yeah, well, if the water's freezing, then that's ice. Yeah, so I guess maybe it was near the island or whatever.

And also, I think pack ice drifts quite a lot too. Yeah, they talk about that a lot. I was sort of, and that was part of it, that ice drifted. So I don't think he would have had memories of it like, oh, it's a great spot to hang out. Oh, beautiful spot. He was probably just like, oh, I'm excited to go there on purpose. Last time was it an unhappy accident? This time I'll absolutely dominate because I'm prepared for six months at least.

Wikipedia.org suggests the explorers were handpicked by Stephenson based upon their previous experience and academic credentials. Stephenson considered those with advanced knowledge in the fields of geography and other sciences for the expedition. So Wikipedia is more like, that one article by Howells was like, they're so underprepared. Wikipedia's like, he picked a pretty good team here.

I suppose one's looking at it from the perspective of this is what was, this is what he did at the time. He chose prepared people and this dot org site is really, really suggesting that oh no the other one it was the other article wasn't it? Yeah, Hulls. Oh well that's, you know, we know that now. We know that we're woefully under-prepared now.

Yes, that's right. Easy to say. Yeah. Atlas Obscura. Oh, come on, Atlas Obscura. Here was charismatic. So we're a short one member of the final five, five go.

And the fifth and final member of the party was Ada Blackjack. According to Katie Sorrell, Rina, writing for all that's interesting. Though the crew was vastly under experience for the mission, Stephenson believed they were well enough equipped to manage for themselves apart from one thing. They needed a seamstress, preferably an Alaskan native who spoke English. And this is where Blackjack comes in. Sorina continues, as an Inupiat woman indigenous to Alaska,

Blackjack was expected to have been taught survival and hunting skills. However, being raised by Methodist missionaries, she was given almost no practical survival skills. She did, however, no English, at least enough to read the Bible. So there was an assumption made that because she was an Inupiate woman, she would have survival skills out in the icy wilderness. But she wasn't brought up in that way. No one asked. It seems like it. This, this seems, this woman's history seems like it's just stacks of racism on top of each other.

Yep. Oh, no. But, I mean, doesn't that make it more satisfying that she's the badass of the story? Oh, yeah. She needed money. The article goes on to say she needed money badly at the time after her husband had run out on her, leaving her with a five-year-old son. She had nearly no money.

her son Bennett suffered from tuberculosis and his care was too expensive for blackjack to manage. So upon hearing that there was an expedition that needed an English-speaking Alaska native with sewing experience and was willing to pay a then unheard of 50 bucks a month, she jumped at the chance. So she took this up. She took up the option. It wasn't particularly well suited to her, but she was kind of desperate and that's why she went along. Oh, I mean, we've all applied for a job that we thought, I don't know if I could get this.

Oh, you're like, am I qualified? And then they hire you and you think, well, do you know what? At this point, it's their fault. That's right. If they didn't check properly. I have the job. I did all my piece. It's their fault if they chose wrong.

And I can't assume responsibility for that. I will only assume responsibility for my money. Thank you very much. But also, she was exactly what they asked for. Yeah. She filled the job description. She didn't, I'm guessing they didn't ask and they're, Therefore, she didn't know that they were assuming a whole bunch of stuff.

Yeah. So who was Ada Blackjack? Well, according to Hull's, Blackjack, wasn't her birth name. That was one of the good things her husband left her with. Great name. Her original name's also great. Ada Delatuck. She was born in 1898 in Spruce Creek, Alaska,

a remote settlement north of the Arctic Circle near the Gereux. Gold Rush Town of Nome, N-O-M-A, how do you pronounce that? History has largely forgotten her, though Jennifer Niven's 2004 biography, Aida Blackjack, a true story of survival in the Arctic, painted a comprehensive picture of her life. I think that story was really what brought her story into the modern mind world. I'm so glad to be part of the modern mind world. Wow, I feel like I'm there right now. Thanks so much for helping me out, you too.

Hey, sometimes you just let the man go. Let the man flounder. You never know what genius will come up from a floundering man. Yeah. Mine world. You see his hand waving out of the water and you give him a high-five. Yeah, you got this, buddy. And you jet ski away.

What's the word I was trying to say? Sightguist. Sideguist. Yeah, that's even better than what I was grasping for. I hope that's right. If I'm not right, don't tell me. I'm not sure if a story. is quiet in the zeit gas, but it's at least in the...

It's in the geist. I don't know what these words mean. It's in the ghast, if not the Zite. The article goes on. It says at the age of 16, she married Jack Blackjack, which is amazing. Jack? No. Black Jack.

No. A local dog musher. And together they had three children. Oh, dog what? Sorry. Musher? I'm assuming it's someone who mushes dog. Oh, when you, like when you have pets, you're like mush.

I guess so. I hope it's not actually just like smushing them into a little paste or something. Come here, Fido. I'm a dog food maker. No, no, no. I'm a dog. I'm not a dog food maker. Together they had three children.

Two died young before Bennett came along. So the Bennett blackjack? Yes. That's a great name too. Very good. But then Jack deserted eight of them. on the Seawood Peninsula in 1921. The abandoned blackjack.

This is wild if true. Because there was another story, another article suggested he drowned. But this one suggests he just left her and her kid or their kid. And she had to walk 40 miles back to Nome with her five-year-old son Bennett. When he was too tired to walk, she carried him. The boy suffered from tuberculosis, like I said before. and Blackjack lacked the resources to properly care for him. Destitute, she placed Bennett in a local orphanage,

vowing that she would find a way to make enough money to bring him back home. It was during this time that Blackjack heard word of an expedition heading for Rangel Island. They were seeking an Alaska native seamstress who spoke English. She's like, well, that's me. Article continues. Blackjack had many misgivings about shipping out with an expedition of four men, especially as she had initially been promised she would be one of many Alaska natives in the party

but the couple, but the odd jobs of sewing and housekeeping she was picking up in Nome were never going to be enough to bring Bennett home and the Rangel Island expedition promised the salary of $50 a month which was huge to her then but she rocked up ready to go expecting there to be a bunch of other Alaskans there

and she was the only one. So it was the five of them. There was meant to be a few families there as well. She was going to be hanging out with sort of. Brave girl. I think at one point, yeah, the idea was that the women were going to be sewing and that sort of stuff and the men were going to be hunting. And then I guess the other four guys are just going to be concentrating on planting the flag.

Doing that thing with the flag, we need a bunch of guys and you got to push it into place from flat? Yes. I've only seen one picture. Stephenson wrote in his 1925 book about the expedition, so that gives away a bit that he survived from his home. Spoilers! I wouldn't want to put that together, so thanks for pointing that out.

He wrote a book called The Adventure of Rangel Island. So rich that he's writing a book. From his armchair. So this is from it. The Rangel party tried to engage at Nome some Inupiate families and did so actually, but when the time came to sail, they arrived at the boat landing only ate a blackjack,

who had been expecting to go along as a member of one of these families engaged. One, I love the slightly flowery way of writing back then, as a member of one of those families engaged. When she found that the others had broken their bargain, she also wanted to withdraw, but was prevailed upon to go by the assurance that the ship, the Silver Wave, would call in at a settlement between Gnome and Wrangell to hire families in which Ada could then take her place.

So they're like, we'll get some families along the way. They did not do that. Yes. Do you think I even tried to do that? I couldn't. It's unclear, but yeah, maybe they tried. So the travelling party of five was complete. Crawford, Knight, Moora, Gaul and Blackjack.

That sounds like a magic spell. They're all great names. names, no. Yeah. On September the 9th, 1921, the crew of five, plus a cat named Vic, set sail from known... What, proof of six! On the silver wave. Come on, was that the captain?

Captain Vic? Captain Cat. So, and I'm pretty sure, I don't think they were sailing this ship. I think they were just being, they were getting dropped off by the ship. Although nothing makes that all that clear either. The silver wave arrived on Wrangell Island on September 16th, so it took a week to get there, not the longest voyage. in a dictated statement printed in Stephenson's book, Blackjack wrote,

When we got to Rangel Island, the land looked very large to me, but they said that it was only a small island. I thought at first that I would turn back, but I decided it wouldn't be fair to the boys. Soon after we arrived, I started to sew. According to an article on lit site, Alaska.org by Alexander J. McLanahan, the island encompasses an area of about 2,000 square miles. It's 80 miles long and 18 to 30 miles wide, which makes it about half the size of Puerto Rico, which is how I like to have things measured. Okay.

How many Puerto Rico's is this island? How many Puerto Rico's is this island that we're on? Do we know? Australia. Yeah. I would say a lot of them. Is that specific enough? How many Puerto Rico's is Tasmania?

I want to know how big this. small, big small islanders. It's pretty long, 80 miles long. Matt's pulled out the phone. So it's like 10 M&M origin stories. How many Puerto Rico's would fit in Tasmania? Is it going to know that? I doubt it.

Imagine if you're asking Google a question it's never heard before. That's right. You get a Google whack here. Came up with how many times would Tasmania fit inside Victoria? That's not the question I asked. This is why I trust only dot orgies, not dot combs. How about you continue on and I'll work it out. Thank you so much, Dave.

The party planted a Canadian flag on their arrival and Crawford sent a letter back to Stephenson, which was received a month later, saying, arrived at Rangel Island last night. Letter to you contains documents. Lots of driftwood and tracks. Looking forward to good winter. No ice yet.

This was the only word received from the party. Oh no. Because I think they just sent this letter back with the ship. There was no plan for communication apart from that. So they're out on this island without any way of getting back or communicating. So they got to the island, put a flag up and they're like, whoof, time to set up camp. Yeah.

And wait a year. When you said that it was going to be a year till like a ship picked them up, I was thinking, oh, there must be a really long travel time. It was only a week. Yeah, that's right. Just basically swim home. If there's drift wood, just grab it. Yeah, just drift on the wood.

Come on. Stand on one. Use the other one as a paddle. It's a two-step process. It's fine. Well, I have an answer to the question. Oh, yes. Tasmania is seven and a half Puerto Rico's.

Seven-a-half Puerto Rico's. So this island would be fit into Tasmania 15 times. Okay. We presume if it's... Cass, does that help? Okay, so we're thinking. one 15th of Tasmania. That's what you're imagining.

Okay, that's pretty... Now I also have to consider that I'm small. So if I would have stand on 1 15th of Tasmania and I'd be like, I can't see the end of it. Yeah. Yeah, it's bit like it's big. It's not... Some articles talked about it like a speck in the sea,

but it's very visible on maps. You know, it's like, it's not tiny. It's a decent chunk of... Some islands are tiny. I think my great grandma grew up on... Name one. Ocean Island. My great grandma grew up on.

up on there, I think it was like three kilometers by three kilometers. Well, I don't know it, so I'm going to have to assume you're lying. Fair enough, it's not on a lot of maps. It's too small. Wow. Yeah. Oh, you know, I actually, yeah, it's a real island. It's just not on any maps.

It's too small. It's a real island, but I actually don't know how it's doing with global warming, to be honest. It reminds me of when a guy at school said he won a world surfing championship. and we said, oh, cool, can we show, I see the trophy? And he said, oh, it was too big to fit on the plane. Sort of similar to that. Only yours is small.

His was too big. Yeah, it's too small to see her on a map. The island is real. It just goes to a different globe. Same guy said he got bitten by a shark, but wouldn't be able to show us the scar because it was too cold. It was too cold to lift his shirt. Do you believe him?

Of course. Great. You're a trusting man. I mean, you'd be a full not to believe him. I mean, you don't become the world champion of surfing without encountering a shark or two. I'm surprised he only had the one bite, you know? He's lucky. Yeah, only one that he told us about.

He wasn't the kind of guy who would just go around telling everyone things that had happened to him. God, no. What, you don't want to brag. No, not that kind of character. He doesn't like attention. So, Stephenson's back home now claiming, you know, you know, getting into the media, claiming the success of the mission. A New York Times article ran a little while later saying,

Stephenson claims Rangel Island for Great Britain. The expedition he sent out last fall has established possession, says Explorer, timed to forestall Japan. He's telling people he's like, Japan's after it. We don't get it, Japan. No proof of this at all. No one's saying Japan's not coming after it, though. Who are you going to believe?

They probably just turned around because they saw us here. They're like, damn, look at that flag. Look at that flag. Damn it. Clearly theirs now. Oh, no, it's the same colors as ours. We've got to get in there. Back to Japan.

Stephenson denies that this is still from New York Times. Stephenson denies that Russia, to whom the island is allotted on maps, has any right to it. Once it's allotted on the map, there's got to be at least a discussion about. whether or not they have a right to it. I mean, that very much, I feel like that's them showing their whole last there, just coming along and be like, you know, there's actually no reason. It's theirs. It's like, buddy, do you have a reason?

I mean, people from your country and your kingdom, your Commonwealth aren't even claiming they want it. The king's like, what are you talking about? All of that, does that sound like I've just read a few, like a paragraph of the article? That was the headline and subheadlines. Wow, just to suck you in. It really feels like you've told us the whole story, yeah? What's the opposite of burying a lead? So he's back at home, comfortable.

I'm picturing him in front of a fire. Me too, like mahogany. Feet up on a stool. Yes, exactly. Yeah, like it's roaring. Like he's got a copy. Phone's ringing in hot just going, yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, we're having great success.

Yeah, feet in socks, blanket over legs. Yeah. So meanwhile, his crew is settling in on Wrangel Island. Due to Stephenson's assurances that they would be able to easily live off the land and the idea that there was a ship coming next year with more supplies anyway, they only had the supplies for six months. And I'm like reading this going, uh-oh. And at first the party found things pretty much as Stephenson promised.

According to Serena, with her article from the bloody all that's interesting, the crew arrived as winter dawned, but were well stocked with enough supplies to last through the cold months. Then when the spring came, along with it came plentiful game. Throughout the summer, the crew survived by hunting and fishing. McClanahan continues, they stayed at first in a tent, then built a snowhouse, and in the spring of 1922, the men killed more than 30, seals and 10 polar bears as well as geese and ducks. It's a five-person crew.

Two polar bears each. Yeah. Can you eat polar bears? Or maybe they were just having a go. Maybe they couldn't eat polar bears. Or maybe they, oh no, the head of seamstress. Maybe they were just one of the skin. Right, that's true.

You could think of how they keep, I mean, you're probably seeing a polar bear being like, that's the warmest guy here. I got to get in one of those. Yeah. In my head, I assume they would have packed jackets. But why is the seamstress? there otherwise. Why do you need to have things made?

Hang on. Take like your jacket and then two backups or something. Yeah. What a luxury. In a five-person crew, one of them's a tailor. Like constantly. Do you need those pants taken up? Every day.

She's just like, what do we need on here? The measuring tape. Maybe to make tents and stuff. Maybe those, maybe repairing stuff like that. I mean, you eat enough seal, you're going to need your pants let out. You're expanding. I mean, I assume it's to, when you said that, I assumed it was to make things out of fur

because if you are as warm as the animals, then you've done it. You're right, but like if there's five people, it's not like they're having kids or anything, they don't have new people to look after. Once you've got enough jackets each. Well, Matt did say, she pulled up, she started sewing.

Did she then just kind of stop? Hang on, if she pulled up and started sewing, what was she sewing? She had a week or. on the shit. Do they turn up and they're wearing board shorts and they're like, shit, Blackjack,

come on. Hey, anything you need you can buy there at Rangel Island. Yeah, I've only brought carry on. It's so much cheaper. I bought 35 pairs of underwear in case I shoot myself 32 times, but then I realised we're here for a year.

Oh, no, I need other stuff. Can I put in order? Can you sew me up some more underwear? Can I please have 500 pairs of underwear? So, Blackjack, she kept, A diary, and so there's bits and pieces that are straight from her writing pen,

or they also had a typewriter, so one or the other different times. But according to Blackjack, the meat seemed to be plentiful, and that summer night went off by himself to explore and swam across the skeleton river. No, don't do that. If it's gotten that name, stay away. And we're in the old times. People called them as their season. Yeah, that's right.

Well, he was never well again after that. Okay. That checks out. That does check out. Never well again. What does that mean? He was sickly and they weren't sure why. Throughout the summer, the group waited for the supply boat to arrive,

but Stephenson's promised boat had been unable to reach the island because of ice. I love the name of the boat. It's called the Teddy Bear. And because they didn't have any communication equipment, the teddy bear couldn't communicate to them that, hey, we're nearby, but we can't, we're caught in the ice. We're not going to be able to make it. You better keep thinking of other plans to make it.

Yeah, it's like maybe stock up on some meat for later. I mean, you've got 10 bears. You reckon you could make them last? Bears were famously good for making it through the winter. I assume that's what that is about. So the New York Times ran a headline then saying Arctic rescuers on the teddy bear, caught in the ice. If you didn't know, you'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Arctic rescue.

Sounds like the editor's tripping. Do you reckon that's something you kept up with? Do you reckon you could have? So in the old times, because you don't get a lot of correspondence, right? So you just read the paper and every few months you'd be like, oh, the teddy bear. Would you have your favorite ships? Oh, I'm sure. Back then.

No much going on. You really need something to do, don't you? Yeah. Genuinely, you probably would have had some that you waved off and then you'd read in the paper. I'd send that one off. Yeah, I was there. You got a cork board of all the articles on it,

pinned to your bedroom wall. And was that just the headline or was that? That was, yeah. I just thought it was a funny headline. But I mean, the article, obviously, it's, again, a lot of, It's a lot of Stephenson talking about how great everything's going. No, no, we're not meant to have been able to hear from them.

He's like a couple of them. I reckon they're probably not enjoying the cold. No, it's really good. It's so funny. He's had no ability to find out how they're doing. Months and months have passed. They're great, I assume. Yeah.

One of them sick, never to recover. He doesn't know that. By late fall conditions worsened for the group, and there was now little meat. On January the 8th, Knight and Crawford took the dogs and left for Siberia to get help, but they returned within a couple of weeks because Knight was too sick and weak to travel. They're like, you know, I mean, he swam across the skeleton river. What was he thinking?

It's mostly ghoul now, poor man. Yeah, my goodness. The sickness was a mystery to the crew, but, I mean, to me it doesn't connect at all to the skeleton river. I think it was just coincidence because they now think, He was likely suffering from a severe case of undiagnosed scurvy. Probably not a lot of lemon trees on that. You reckon he got that in Skeleton River? I reckon he might have.

It sucked all the lemon juice out of it. All the vitamin C went into the sea. On January the 28th, 1923, the crew was starving and running out of options for food. I mean, it was foolish to send two people for help, and one of them is your most sickly dude. Well, I assume they thought he was okay. He was sick, but, you know, he's not going to be sick forever and never recover with something that we haven't diagnosed. They didn't figure out that they had to put him back in the skeleton river for the skeletons to return his soul.

No one clocked it. Wait for high tide. They didn't know about scurvy yet. So now they're starving. Yes. Oh dear. But they had so many. 30 seals.

I mean, how quickly can you? They must have been like living it up like kings. New seal? There's a bit left on that one. Who cares? Throw it out. New one. Crack open a new one.

Crack open a new seal. So there's struggling, running out of options. And the three, quote, healthy men, Gawmora and Crawford left Blackjack to look after night and set off on foot to cross the Siberian ice in an attempt to find help. In her journal, Blackjack wrote, But they promised that they would come back after they got to gnome with a ship if they could. And if they couldn't, they would come over with a dog team next winter. They left with a team of five dogs and a big sled of supplies.

So they, isn't that funny? It's like, were they the last supplies that they left with, that big sled of supplies? Just eat the dogs. Yeah, it's the first time these dogs have come up. Yeah. So they just... You're saying eat the dogs. No, I'm saying...

I mean, once you're eating the dogs, you can't get out now. Then you can't get out. Then why didn't they go with the dogs? Yeah, I'm guessing it's just the space thing. But I mean, she said herself, and maybe this was her point. Big sled of supplies. Maybe that was her point in her diary going, pretty big. I don't know, I'm not saying anything, but that was a pretty big sled of supplies.

I'm sure they accounted for this. But in my mind, if you're feeding dogs, you have to feed them meat, which means it's stuff that you could be eating. Yeah, but I suppose if they travel so fast, a cover ground that you couldn't cover. And also, if you got a guy who's sick in bedridden, he's maybe not surviving, they'd have to camp out in rougher conditions in like a built-up snow house. I don't know. You're asked good questions and I just think I'm giving pretty good answers. I like them. I like them.

I'm sweating. In my mind, I know this is wrong. I want to put that out there. But in my mind, I'm like, just have everyone lie down on the sled. So it's less air resistant. Yeah. And then the dogs will be fine.

Yes, and everyone keeps warm. Wait till it rains a little bit, and then the snow's slippery. It's fine. Slide home. Find a hill. Roll. So they left with it.

team of five dogs the big set of supplies and those three men were never seen again oh my goodness what about the dogs uh the dogs they're still around today do we know anything about the cat yeah cat still cat stayed at the camp so the cat uh didn't go off with the cats are survivors yeah i'd be like thinking cat wherever you're going on going with the cat so they've gone off never seen again um well they heard from again uh no uh no tasted again No. Did someone eat them? According to Serena, no word of them reaching any Siberian towns was ever recorded.

So they're just, they're lost out there in the ice somewhere. Should we find them? I mean, their bones would still be out there, right? Maybe it's Skeleton River. That's the first place I'd look for bones. Have you checked Skeleton River? Huh? So now it's Blackjack, this sick guy and Captain Cat.

Yes. Hanging out in their structure. Yes, that's right. And of course, you're not. you wouldn't want to eat the cat, but you would think about it every day, right? Yeah. As you're feeding it, you'd be like, you fucking... That's the thing.

Again, cats eat meat, which means you could be eating what the cat's eating. Do you want to be eating cat food? How long before you get into the whiskers? I don't know. I look at cat food, I think, maybe more dog food, but some of that stuff, it looks pretty good to me. Oh, the wet food with the jelly? Yeah, maybe not the wet food.

Are you thinking... The dog biscuits. You like dry food. Are we going? Chum, so chunky you can carve it. That's what I'm in to do. Cut me out of a slice of that. Oh, yum. Do you want to heat it up or cold's fine? Straight out the fridge. Yeah, straight out of the fridge. Feel a bit of like Devonore fritz if it's straight out of the fridge.

It's like a little deli slice tree. Bit of cheese, a bit of pepper, tomato. Fee and blue cheese. Oh, tomato sauce between just some white bread? Fantastic. I started salivating. Tomato sauce just between white bread, including the dog food or just? Oh, including the dogs.

Okay. You just started naming things you like to eat. And then a lasagna, imagine. And you know, you have some of the crunchy stuff for, you know, an appetizer. Yeah, or a garnish. Or dourves. I think, well, okay, if we're working with this, I think it's important to mix our textures to really elevate the palate. So if we've got the soft on the bottom, just maybe a little bit of the dog biscuits in it.

As croutons. Yeah, like maybe crumbed up a bit fine. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It surprises your mouth. You're like, what am I eating? What is this? If I'm ever going on an expedition, you're coming as chef.

We've got our dog food chef here. If you can make me hungry based on dog food, I reckon, I mean, I did a lot of that myself. It was a team effort. We're all hungry for dog food now. Oh, yeah. I'm going to whack her for a smacker. We're all chums chum. So Blackjack and the Unweld night alone at camp, unbeknownst to them, they're the only

ones who anyone even knows what happened to him from here. Knight's bedridden. So it's sort of like Blackjack and Knight are left offender for themselves. But really it's Blackjack is left offend for both of them. And the cat. And the cat. Well, the cat's probably looking after itself as cats do. According to Serena, Blackjack took over the duties of the three men in addition to her own.

Day in and day... She's still sewing. She's still doing it. Still making new outfits. gosh, I've got to fill this order. Wait, what are the duties she's doing? I guess she's expecting them to come, maybe they'll come back. They'll leave their spring collection.

Haven't made a new autumn wear. So day in and day out, she stacked wood, cared for night, hunted for food, made dinner and tended to the camp. She was the chef and the steamstress. Recording all of her activities in a diary or typing them out on the ship's typewriter, which I love that they brought that, but not enough food supplies. Although it does sound like it that they had enough meat to last. I mean, I don't know. I'm no meat expert, but it feels like 10 polar bears should see out a couple of years.

They would have kept all right in the ice. You would have thought you could have made like a little ice box out of them. They needed some food preservation experts. Yeah. I once saw someone doing survivalist stuff and they smoked enough fish to last some six weeks. Wow. But then they got that thing. where, you know, like paradoxical line dressing, you know,

and if you get really, really cold, you think you're hot and you take your closer. Oh, yes. That can happen if you are very, very hungry as well. He hoarded food enough for six weeks and then we're starving to death. Oh. It's a thing that happens. So hungry that you think you're full. Well, I assume what it was is because he was so lacking in food,

he just kept storing it and storing it, but he just didn't eat any. You think I can't eat it now. Right. Yeah. I mean, I've got to make this last. It's like me as a kid with Easter eggs. Good enough this now. Next Easter comes around and goes,

oh, double Easter eggs this year. According to a 1924 LA Times article, she served as Dr. Nurse, Companion, Servant, and Huntswoman in one. Love that. Is she wearing different hats for these roles? Different hats, yes. She sewed herself up multiple different hats. According to McClanahan,

she kept a bag of warm sand at night's feet and sewed pillows of oatmeal sacks stuffed with cotton to ease his bed sores. It just sounds like she's dominating. She's just nailing everything. God. And she had no survival skills before. Yeah, supposedly. Amazing.

I'm guessing you're thinking, no, it must be appreciating this. Yeah, for sure. Well, apparently he did not. According to Hull, the dying man projected the rage he felt over his helplessness onto her, criticizing her constantly for not taking better care of him. Blackjack did not outwardly allow his blows to land, but confided in her diary writing. He never stopped to think how much it's hard for women to take four men's place, to woodwork and to hunt for something to eat for him and do waiting to his bed and take his shit out for him.

She's like, it's so far, she's like, he's never really, I'm doing everything. She sounds so patient, even in her private diary. She's like, has he ever thought about how I'm doing all the things? And he's still saying I'm not doing enough. Yeah, it's your diary. You can just be as mean as you want. Yeah, but still considering like, oh, let's think about his mental state. He's never stopped to think.

This went on for months. Knight finally succumbed to his illness though on June the 23rd, 1923. So there was a few months of this. her work and doing all the jobs and keeping two of them a lot. I wonder if you feel relief or you think, oh no, now I'm alone. Yeah, I mean? No companion, but also he was a bit of a prick. Yeah, and I was, you know, I was having to do a lot of work just to keep him going in a way that he's not happy.

But I guess you'd be hoping that someone's coming to rescue you any day. Maybe that's what keeps up. Try to take it day by day. Yeah, you'd also have, you'd have less to do and that could potentially be horrible. Right, alone with nothing to do and no idea if anyone's coming, yeah. I mean, in my life of luxury, I'm like, oh, I just like cooking more if I'm cooking for another person. So I can't even imagine what this would be like. She recorded the event on the camp's typewriter, writing,

The date of Mr. Knight's death, he died on June 23rd. I don't know what time he died, though. Anyway, I'll write the date just to let Mr. Seffinson know what month he died and what date of the month, written by Mrs. Ada Blackjack. I was just like, I don't know, I don't really care, just in case Devons wants to know. Anyway, don't know what time. Sorry, I'm really busy. So Knight's death left Blackjack as the last surviving member of the party.

For someone without any real experience in the Arctic elements, it must have been a challenging scenario to say the least. But thinking of returning to her son back in Alaska, Blackjack got to work, surviving. you know. Sorana continues. As she didn't have the strength to bury Knight's body, she left him in his sleeping bag and constructed a wall of boxes and old supplies around him to protect him from animals and the elements. Then she moved into the storage tent and fortified it for survival. Basically, just because it was not a pleasant place to live anymore because there was a slowly, very slowly decaying body in there. Because it was still very, it was still cold, but.

Oh, he's on ice. Yeah. Uh, article goes on. Using old supplies and boxes, she constructed a cupboard in which she kept her field glasses and ammunition, as well as a gun rack where she kept her rifle and a raised platform that she could hunt from. I wish I could see this. This sounds amazing. It's so sick.

I think there are photos. For a woman who had spent her life terrified by polar bears, isn't that amazing? She always had this big fear of polar bears. By two years into her journey, Ada Blackjack was a natural at tracking them. though she didn't hunt them. She tracked them to find out where other prey was so that she could hunt that and also to make sure they didn't get too close to her camp. There were close calls.

At one point when she was out hunting, she barely escaped an attack from a mother polar bear and her cub. She wrote of the ordeal, finally I realized it was a polar bear and I was 400 yards from my tent. I turned and ran and just as hard as I could until I got to my tent. I was just about ready to faint when I got there too. Still pretty chilled about it. Hull writes, for three months, Blackjack was alone.

She learned how to set traps to lure white foxes. It says she learned. I mean, she taught herself. Is she getting a YouTube tutorial? How do you finding out how to do that? That's wild, right? Yeah, yeah, you're right. That language is wrong.

Self-taught everything. Self-taught tracker, self-talk wood mechanic. Yeah, I guess some of the others, There might have been things she picked up, and then there would have been equipment around. She just figured out how to use. Yeah. So, yeah, that, she built up that stand, so she could, she basically had a spot to look out and protect the camp from polar bears on watch. So she's also our own sentry.

Yeah. Amazing. So she taught herself to shoot birds, build a platform above her shelter so she could spot polar bears in the distance, crafted a skin boat from driftwood. and stretched canvas after the one initially brought to the island was lost in a storm. She even experimented with the expedition's photography equipment, taking pictures of herself standing outside the camp. So there's a bunch of photos. She just started teaching herself photography.

In short, she was doing pretty well for herself. Like, I think it really, actually, you were saying, the night thing dying? Yeah, it sounds like she's excelled with that. Really. Then on August the 20th, 1923, almost two years after landing. Two years. Harold Nois and his crew aboard the Donaldson arrived to rescue. Noyes.

That's what she was thinking. Noose. They arrived to rescue her, but rescues in inverted commas. Oh. Didn't really need rescuing. Oh, okay, great. Sorry. Oh, good.

Yeah. I was like, uh-oh. Inslave her or something horrific. Hey, do we have cat updates right now? Cat's still doing fine. Yes. Cat survived. So it's her and the cat.

Was she talking to the cat? I've got to be talking. You can't not talk to the cat. I was thinking as you were talking about how you'd even mentally do anything. I'm like, you just would never, you would have to keep talking yourself. Yeah, you'd Wilson it. You'd have to sing songs. Talk to the cat and then do a diary every day trying to, you know, get your thoughts out.

Yeah. Maybe reading it out loud or something. Yeah. It's kind of interesting to think how many more skills she would have learned if she was there. Yeah, no, Dave, you're right. She might have. Just enough time. They've just rocked up and...

So they've rocked up to rescue her. Nois, Harold Noiss. He used to work with old mate. I've said he may have so many times. Who's the guy? Stephenson? Stephenson. I always, I constantly picture him in a nightcap.

Yeah, he's nodding off. Notting off. Yeah, a real long one. Oh, yeah, still kicking goals. Your fat red cheeks. Where's the boat? So Nois and the crew arrive. And had they been sent to find that?

Yeah, I think that's the idea. They know, well, I think they're assuming everyone's going to still be there. Yeah. But rather than finding someone in dire need of rescue like they were anticipating, the ship's crew noted that, quote, Blackjack had mastered her environment so far that it seems likely she could have lived there another year. although the isolation would have been a dreadful experience. The press dubbed Blackjack the female Robinson Crusoe

and Hulls, Robinson Crusoe, classic book right, David. Yeah. Have you got around to that one on the truth? Haven't read it, no, but it was one of those first ones that was written as if it was a true story. Right. And published for a while, people were like,

oh, this is a real guy. Right. All right. Well, Ada Blackjack is a real person. It's funny that it called the female Robinson Crusoe, not the real Robinson Crusoe. Anyway, and Hulls continues. Sorry, as the feminist of the podcast, I had to throw that in. You're a woman before you're real.

And Hulls continues, as news of the expedition's tragic end spread, Blackjack found herself at the epicentre of a flurry of press, attention, lauding her as a hero and praising her for her courage. But the quiet seamstress shied away from the attention and titles, insisting that she was simply a mother who had needed to get home to her son. Not all the attention was positive, though, as McClan-Han writes, she was criticised by one of her rescuers for not finding a way to save Knight's life. Matt, like, why didn't you just cure his scurvy?

that we still don't know that that's what he died of. You've learned everything else. Why didn't you enroll in medical school? So strange. Yeah, that's weird. I mean, I see you've got these like oat bags and warm sand to tend to him. But did you consider, I don't know, sucking the poison out of his woos? Like, did you bloodlet?

Always bloodlet. But maybe this is nice though. Because Knight's parents eventually vindicated her after meeting with her. and issuing a statement that Blackjack had done everything possible to save their son's life. On her return, Hull says Ada was reunited with Bennett, her son, and used her payment, which was much less than she'd been promised. I mean, 50 a month for two years, right? Yeah.

It's a step, like, I think it was even underpaid. Yeah, it was underpaid. The contract was for a year, and I think it was underpaid on even that. Do you know what the modern equivalent would be, monetarily? Dave, can you look that up? 1921, $50.50. Canadian dollars? I think American, US.

Okay. U.S. D. But she used that payment to seek treatment for her son's tuberculosis in Seattle at the Seattle Hospital. She later had a second son named Billy and returned to live in Alaska. Apparently she got into, she used some of her skills that she'd taught herself. She would hunt reindeer and stuff. Rainier, or deer, some sort of deer. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. No, good on the correction because it's less getting into something and more continuing your natural talent. Yeah, that's right. Finally developed skills. Did you find out? I do have a number from official data.org. Oh. Who have an inflation calculator.

$50 in 1921 is equivalent to just under $750 today. So that's $750 US. U.S. So that's, yeah. About a thousand Aussie dollars, so not. So 12 grand. And they're underpaid on that. I mean, that's not a lot for a year's worth of work,

especially when I mean, she was doing the work at four. Yeah, it should actually have been. And again, hazard pay, I think should have been included. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so she had another, she returned at another son, moved back to Alaska, but despite the seemingly happy ending, Blackjack's remaining years were tinged with pervasive sadness and poverty,

while Stephenson and others, including Noyce, profited from the story of the tragic expedition, Blackjack saw none of that money, and Smear campaigns against her character later emerged, claiming that she had callously refused to care for Knight. But like I said, Knight's parents said, no. Yeah, it's so weird They needed to, maybe

I don't know, yeah, I'm not sure what the motivation there was Again, probably racism Yeah, jealousy potentially She was seen as the hero Because, you know, she was clearly the hero of the story Yeah, Stevenson's like, um, actually Actually, I'm the female Robinson Crusoe, so There might even be a bit of, you know,

oh, well, patriarchical thinking and thinking, oh, the little guy should have survived and the woman should know. That's right. If you could survive, why couldn't this man? Yeah, why couldn't he? What did you do? Also, because you are a mother or a woman, therefore, no mother things. Why couldn't you make him better?

You should have known how to do that. Cass, I don't want to be rude to you against, but I'll do the feminizing around here, okay? Okay, so. Okay, I'm so sorry. Thank you for putting me in my place. That's actually pretty important that you leave that sort of stuff for me. I'm sorry, I won't take up space. Thank you.

Stop taking up my space. Let me lean in for a moment. People understand irony listening usually. So her son, Bennett's health issues were never fully resolved, and he died of a stroke in 1972 at the age of 58. Blackjack followed her son roughly a decade later, passing away in a nursing home in Palma, Alaska at the age of 85, and she was buried by Bennett's side.

She extended his life so much, though. So much, yes. And she lived to 85. She lived in 1983. She passed. Amazing. Oh, my God. So she would have seen parachute pants.

Yeah, did parachute pants make it in that early? Did she invent them? She probably actually seemed just... Yeah, for sure. Big influence. Actually, yeah, she based them on pollen pants. After her death, her second son, Billy spoke lovingly of his mother, saying, I consider my mother Ada Blackjack to be one of the most loving mothers in the world,

and one of the greatest heroines in the history of Arctic exploration. She survived against all odds. It's a wonderful story that should not be lost of her self-discovery and cultural reawakening. And it's a story of a mother fighting to survive to live so she could carry on with her son Bennett and help him fight the illness that was consuming. him. She succeeded and I was born later. Her story of survival in the Arctic will be a great chapter in the history of the Arctic and Alaska. Time is running out and soon this chapter will fade away unless we care enough to make a record of it. After his mother passed, Billy mounted a plaque

on her grave which simply said, The Heroin of Rangel Island. Which is very sweet as well. Yeah, because it's sort of like, wasn't the nice ascends. but it's so the way Billy, I just love that, except what Billy was said. That's really beautiful. And we all think we have the most loving mothers, but, I mean, that goes probably right, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how many of your mothers have gone to the Arctic and, yeah, learned how to survive for two years in the wilderness, just to try and earn 50 bucks a month.

I don't think mine has, and I don't have a word to her about it. I don't think I can claim that on mine either. Come on. Yeah, maybe our mums are in the top five. But yeah. Yeah, so that's pretty much the end of the report. I guess is there the one loose end is the island, despite the flag being planted, the island has always remained as part of Russia and is now a wildlife refuge.

And as a fun fact, according to that great website, Wikipedia.org, Wrangel Island is the last known place on earth where woolly mammoths survived. It was until around 4,000 years ago. Ah! That little island. That's the last known spot where woolly mammoths involved. So thinking about, you know, size relativity, woolly mammoths probably did think it was pretty small.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for them. Yeah. Yeah, like they're dying out everywhere and that's the last spot. Yeah, shattered. Anyway, that's my report on the legendary Ada Blackjack. Oh, absolutely loved it.

Love that. Love, love an Arctic story, an Antarctic story. And I love survival story. Do you know what else we love? Mums. We love love, we love moms. We love a happy ending. I think that is a happy ending. Like if your story starts out with two years in the Arctic and it ends with old age death. Yeah. You're in your mid-80s? Yeah. Are you crazy? So, yeah, quite amazing. Yeah, and I really enjoyed reading about it. It's just like, where's the movie?

There should be a Hollywood movie about this. There's a few of the people, Chris Smith, his suggestion, when they suggest the topic, cast this can write a little bit next to say why. And this is what Chris Smith wrote. All stories of pollus of, survival of fascinating. And this time it isn't a white guy. Which, uh, that one I saw, Ada, but my favorite one was, let me find it here, was by Jessica

Bannazak. She wrote three in one. The story of an Inupit woman who in 1921 volunteered to accompany four Americans slash Canadian men on a mission to the remote wrangle of. island in Russia. They meant to claim the island for Canada, was stranded for two years, and only Ada survived. Biography, adventure and a mystery? What? We love a good pitch. That's a great pitch. And anyone can suggest a topic at any time through our website, do go onpod.com. Yes. And there are... Submit a topic. Submit a topic. And there are thousands in there. So if there is something that makes it stand out like that, it really does help. Yeah. Got to make it pop. That's right. You got to sell it.

I really, I look at the title and then the, because there are some that just they don't write anything in that, in the, why do you think this would be an interesting topic? If you're suggesting it and you can't think of a reason why I've been listening. Yeah, anyway, thank you so much for listening, Cass and Dave. Cass, do you want to hang around for the second part of the show? Yeah. It's most listeners' favorite part of the show.

Oh, well, I'd love to join everyone for that. That would be wonderful. Right. Well, actually, it starts off with a jingle. Basically, we thank a few of our Patreon supporters. We also, we answer a few questions. We just have a bit of fun. And it actually has a jingle.

Jess normally does a jingle. Dave, so you might have to do it this week. How does it go again? Fact quote our question. Ding. He always remembers the ding. Cass, that must have been a full-on thing to see. That was beautiful.

A jingle isn't a jingle with a jingle without a dingle. That's true. I use my whole dingle. So the way this works is people can get involved by going to by going to patron.com slash dogoonpod or dogoonpod.com. And depending on the level you sign up to, there's different rewards and benefits or whatever you call them,

including on some levels you get bonus episodes, three per month. Yeah, three per month. There's over a hundred in the back catalogue now that people can listen to. Oh, so you're saying if I signed up to the dugon pod patron right now, I'd immediately get access to 100 episodes. Exactly. Over 100. I mean, that's good value.

That does sound like good value. That's right. Even in 1921 money, that's good value. And you can also, you get other things like access to the exclusive Facebook Patreon group and other such things. You get to voting rights on topics. You know about live shows before anyone else. Get a bit of pre-sale.

Get in there. Pretty much know about anything before everyone else. And in all aspects of what? Part of a cool club, actually. Honestly, it is a club slash cult, some I've said. But nice. Charismaticly. Yeah, exactly.

Those words are both, three of the letters and those words are the same. Club and a cult. Whoa. Oh, my goodness. And what is a B but not a T who's touching his toes? Yes, that's what I've always said. I've heard him say that. So one of the other things you get to do is give us a factor quote or a question.

You have to be on the Sydney Shineburg Deluxe Memorial Edition Rest and Peace level or something along those lines and if you're involved in that you get to give us a factor quote or a question and you also get to give yourself a title this week. I'm going to read out four

much like every other week and the first one comes from Drew Forsberg who's given himself the title of the beloved side admiral as opposed to the dreaded rear admiral That's funny. That's good fun.

I leave myself home to Wedgies, Wet Willys, and the dreaded rear admiral. So Drew has given us a quote. And I don't think it's probably the least used of the three. And Drew Forsberg's quote is, diplomatic immunity. And that was said by the South African guy in lethal weapon two. Immediately prior to said immunity, Being revoked by LAPD officer Danny Glover.

It's a great moment in cinematic history. And I really appreciate you, Drew, for bringing that out. Any thoughts on that? I mean, it's just a quote. No, a big fan. Haven't seen the movie. Don't need to now. Yeah.

Are you familiar with that bit? No. No, well. I'm not. I'm so glad you got to experience for the first time here. Do you know what it feels like? It feels like I've been delivered like a more. monster shake.

You remember when monster shakes were pretty big? No. Like unicorn shakes. It'd pretty much be a milkshake, but you would cover like the outside of the container with like syrup and a hamburger. Can you pick it up? No, like they used to come in like handled jars. Like you know the mason jars with handles on them.

So they like drip syrup oil on the outside and they cover it with cream and ice cream. Kind of made for Instagram. Yeah, it was more for the photo than the consumption. Exactly. It's like someone's presented me with a monster. shake. I've looked at it and thought, I don't want to touch it because I'm going to be sticky. And so what I've done is taking like the sour worm or whatever off the top and just eaten that and been like, you know what? That was the best bit. Diplomatic immunity.

Is it you or Jess who loves to say it? I would imagine most people love to say it. I feel like you've both quoted on the show multiple times. Yeah, I feel like I haven't said in a while, but I mean, probably because I've forgotten it. I'd forgotten about until then, but always loved it. Favorite bit of that movie, for sure, hands down. How's your South African cast? Can you do diplomatic immunity better than me? Because I really feel like, I used to think I could do it. Maybe it was you who used to do it frequently, yeah.

I was unconvinced by my performance there. I can only say Roybus tea. Roybus tea. Oh, no, that was bad. I can say, to me, a grudge is just a place you park your call. A regret face there. Anyway. The next one comes from Rachel.

Rachel Johnson, who has given herself the title of Supervisor of Pipes and Pies. Wow. Oh, okay. Great. Is there a pipe that brings the pie to my gop? Pipe is just a pie with a P in it. Oh my goodness. And what is a P, if not a?

Legume. Thank you. Oh. Okay, so Rachel's asking a question here. The question is, last time I asked what reality TV show you'd each choose to go on. So this time I'll ask which TV quiz show or game show you'd most like to go on. And Rachel has done what I really encourage people to do. If you're asking a question, please answer it yourself as well.

Do you answer, oh, you answer first because yours might be the same, I reckon. I know you're a big fan of this show. Definitely pointless in the UK. Oh my goodness, I love that show so, so much. Such a great show. I first fell in love with when I went to England about eight years ago and it just happened to be on during the afternoon and I made sure that I was home.

I'm on a holiday where I've paid lots of, like all of my student money to go somewhere and I'm making sure at 4pm every day I'm back in the hotel so I can watch this TV. Yeah, but it's part of being in the culture. Exactly. I experienced it. I love it. And now it's up on, I've watched episodes on YouTube and stuff like that.

Love it. Pointless is like the opposite of Family Feud, yeah? Yes, that's right. We have to try and find the most obscure answer. Love to be random. It'll all live for it. So good. Do you have an answer, Cass?

Well, it has to be a quiz show specifically. Yes, I believe so. Look. Well, I reckon, or game show. Yeah, probably game show. Game show. Ooh. We should go on the family feud.

Kashi's Castle. To Keshe's Castle. To Keshe's Castle. Oh, what's that? It's the, it's more of an obstacle. It's the Japanese. obstacle course one game show. It would just be fun to get walloped by one of those.

But hang on, no, let's go back. Family feud, family feud, family feud. Oh, family feud. We could go on as a family. Yeah, we could be a family. Do they allow that? Yeah. Well, do you know what? No, maybe family food's a good one because you can go on,

because every now and then they'll do like a charity one or they'll do a special so you don't have to be a family, but you can be an other kind of unit. Yeah. So we could be the podcasting Melbourne family. I like that. Well, obviously, for copyright reasons, it has nothing to do with family feud? But at the start of last year, do you remember, we had family food? Oh.

Which was a similar... Weirdly, completely different. Similar game show in some ways, but where we actually had Sandspans Radio versus Planet Broadcasting. Does that exist somewhere? It must exist somewhere. We filmed the video of it. And I co-hosted it with Jackson Bailey. That was so fun.

We raised money for the bushfires. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. Remember the old tragedies of y'all? My goodness. So that was sort of January February last year before the world changed. But that's a great answer. I love the Japanese game show.

Matt? Yeah, well, this is a tricky one. I mean, they all seem fun. I'd love to be on Wheel of Fortune saying top dollar. You love to. Yeah, I can see you doing it. I think that's sort of stuff real funny. When a quiz show is around for so long that there's like clichés that come up,

N-Finelli. Boo-ya. What about no deal? Imagine saying no deal to a suitcase. No deal. Drew, no deal. No deal. Lock it in, Eddie.

Yeah, that's right. People love that for who wants to be a millionaire. But I love, I think, like you, Dave, I love the really weird, daggy English ones. Oh, like Eggheads? Eggheads are so sure. It just looks like a show where they don't realize TV cameras are rolling. It really doesn't. It's like they have no, do they know people are watching?

What's eggheads? There's a team of four. Like trivia masters called the Eggheads. And then a team of four challenges them And the AKs nearly always win What's the opposite of charisma? Because that's everyone on that show. Competence.

If I'm one of the eggheads and Matt is also one of, he gets an answer wrong. I'm like, oh. All right, I knew that one. They're so brutal to each other. Yeah, it's a real strange vibe that one. But there's so many of those English ones. Probably a tipping point.

What's that one? That's on an afternoon TV at the moment in Australia where it's a quiz show and then you get tokens that drop in this big machine. It looks like something you play at time zone or something. They bounce down and you want them to knock over the edge and every token

that ends up landing over the tipping point you had a grand or something. You get to keep that token. Oh, one six tokens. It's so weird. It's like flashing lights and you know, they zoom, crash zoom.

And then it's just the same sort of just a couple of people talking like they don't realize the cameras are on. You know, they're just, it's just so sort of mumbly and... Love it. So good. Yeah, I could... I wish we had more of a game show culture here,

because my dream would be to just come up with a concept for one. Yeah, right. I think we do have a little bit of a game show culture. I think we're just... Maybe we sit outside of it. Maybe it's not the culture we want. You want to set up a new game show, a rival game show... All we do is basically see what's successful in, like, European market,

and bring it over here and do an adaptation. Yeah, we franchise. But I'd love... love to come up with something new. Right. Just love the idea of it. Don't care who hosted. I want to do the concept.

I did like, we did a countdown here. We did letters and numbers and that was nice. Yeah. It still carried gentle vibes. A lot of fun. Our bake-off shows, I guess it's not really a quiz or a game show. David Astell. I don't know a little bit was the, he was the letters and numbers person.

Dictionary guy. Fantastic work. That had the vibe of the English shows a little bit. Yeah. That sort of, it's just very chilled out. A lot, yeah, but it didn't have any of the crash zooms or anything that tipping point has. Tipping point, a bizarre dichotomy of styles. And Rachel's answer, tell me we're going on pointless together because you play in pairs.

Yeah, great. I think that makes sense. Great question. Thank you so much, Rachel. No, what's Rachel? That was pointless, yeah. Didn't I already say that? Yeah, so you imply, but I thought there might be an explanation.

No, no. No explanation just. Yeah, great. So hopefully, Rachel, if you're interested. I would choose pointless. We could go on pointless together. I think that's a great idea. That'd be a lot of fun.

Thank you so much for that question, Rachel. I'd really, I'd be up for going on any quiz shows. I quite love, I like a quiz. They're fun. I often wonder what my topic would be on hard quiz. Do you guys ever wonder this? Yeah, hard quiz. That's an Australian.

That's a good one. Yes, we've, I think it's an Aussie creation. But it is very similar to others, right? What is that one that Peter Burner used to host? Oh, the Einstein Factor. It's not that far off that. It's similar to that, but with a sassy host. Tom Gleason, who does a great job.

Doesn't Peter Burner sassy enough for you? Not in the way that Tom is. Yes. I had another thought there. It does not matter at all. Thank you, Rachel. This next one comes, or did you ask me something that I just ignored? Yeah, your expert topic.

Do you know what your expert topic would be on hard quiz? I don't. I'm not sure. Depending on the week, it would be whatever I just read about. Maybe tism, but I don't even think, I'd probably, there'd be real tism like hard quartsism. Yeah, but what you'd do, you'd have to, you'd pick your topic, you get your date and you'd be like, all right, I'm studying that.

Study it up. Do you have one cast? I'm not sure. No, but I guess I didn't consider that, of course you'd have lead up time. Whenever I imagine hard quiz, I'd be on the spot immediately. Right. It's like, quick, we're going to quiz you on something. obscure and I'm like, oh no.

Sure, sure, sure. Like, I love The Simpsons, but it's so broad. Yeah, I know. Very difficult. So many things. You'd have to say season three. Yeah, you would. Season three, episode one, first 15 minutes?

No, 15 seconds. The opening sequence, I know we're off by heart. Yeah, so all the questions would be like, on frame 72, what color hair? Great, my favorite frame, actually. Thank you, Tom. I'll take this one. Can you just name the pantone color of the Krusty family's hair? Oh, absolutely.

I can. Did you come up with on Cass? Look, if I were put in a situation where I had to go on hard quiz tomorrow, I'd probably be like, Sanspans Radio, the company I work for. I'm like, I reckon I know more than most about that, but I don't know the most, you know? Yeah.

I could still fail. But nothing feels as good as watching a hard quiz and getting one of the questions, right? Oh, from someone else's category. Oh, my God. Oh, my goodness, I do know about 1950s kettles or something. Okay, so the next one comes from Nicole D. Morton. Oh, from Horsham and Vic.

Not everyone puts in their place there. So I love that, Nicole. Good McDonald's there. It's good intel. Nicole's given herself the title of probably fucking accounts payable as usual. But honestly, it's fine. Someone has to do it just as long as there's free biscuits. I mean, Nicole, you get to choose.

But I love that. I love an accounts payable with a bit of sack. And we've got good biscuits, like full assorted creams. Oh, yeah. I'm calling the Monte Gales. Oh, I love a Monte Carlo, yeah. Well, it feels like, I'm a Kingston gal. Kingston number two.

Fine, I'll take a Delta cream, whatever. Delta cream, that's slipping down the list. But we all know what's last. Orange cream. Oh, orange cream. Or orange slice. Orange slice is that what it is. Yeah, and what's the other one?

The Turkish delight of the biscuit world. Yeah, yeah. Always left. Sure bread creams are always left. No, orange slices always left. But that's it, okay. You've got to, you've got to dedicate some secret time to learning to love the leftovers. That's smart.

Yeah. Like I personally love a Brazil nut, but I would never tell anyone. Great. You'd be like, oh gosh. Another Brazil nut for me. And inside you're like, yes. Well, you know, you just join in eating all the rest of the nuts. You know, you see your favorite biscuit isn't the popular biscuit.

Yeah, that's a good place to be. Be quiet. Be quiet that that's your favorite biscuit. You eat the other biscuits with everyone else. And then you've got a plate of biscuits just for you. Yeah, that's good. I really think the key to the Monte Carlo is whatever that red outside of the layer is. Why don't they make the whole biscuit like that?

Why don't they make the whole biscuit out of the red layer? I think that would be great. So Nicole's got a question as well. Here it is. It's longer. Did you know that it has been scientifically proven, two asterisks that we'll come back to, that accounts payable is the one job that no human being has ever planned to do. They just end up there, wallowing in a deep pit of regret.

It's not even real accounting, just admin with a lot more migraines and instances of, as per my previous email. And this was the double asterisk. Disclamor, the science is just my own anecdotal study of noting the number of times I've wanted to die by approximately 2.15pm. I'm curious. Is there a job you would absolutely never do, even if there was no other option?

Oh, so many. Yeah. Brick layer, concrete. See, any job where I could also get ripped. Yeah. Yeah. Incidental exercise is the way to go.

You just need to make sure that you save so that you can quit before your body breaks. Window washer for high-rise? Terrifying. Couldn't do that. Man, I'm thinking, I was like eye surgeon or something, but I guess there's other reasons why I can't do that. Yeah. Yeah, but, yeah, no, I think all the ones you've said seem like just, they're all, They're all good jobs. I'm not throwing shade on these people.

No, I know, but I just feel like that would be good jobs to do. For me and my bod. Right. I would not be, I just, I die on day one. Your bodd had changed very quickly. You'd become ripped Warnocky. Oh my goodness. Lifting bricks all day.

I don't know I could be a bricky. I reckon you could be a brickie. Yeah, you get a technique down. Basically, I don't want this to be misconstrued. This is the ultimate respect to the bricky by me saying I could never do what you do. No, I don't think anyone was interpreting that. with you looking down. I said, what a shit job.

No. No. I think I understood you to be like, I can't do it. I feel like you'd start small, small bricks. Start with Lego. Work your way up to Joplo. I'm really bad at Lego. I always have been.

What, how? Say what? I don't enjoy it. I don't like following instructions. Okay. Oh, but do you have fun when you play with Lego? Yeah, I like building my own stuff. That's a skill.

It always becomes a block. I suppose that would be an issue if you would tell you. with house and you were like, no. Yeah, I'm like, no, I want it to be a block. We really just need a wall here, mate. Well, you're getting a block. It's a real thick wall. Yeah, Cass, job you would never do.

Job I would never do. Yeah. Oh, what about like, you know, abattoir worker or something like that? I think I'd find that a bit hard. Oh, yeah. Put in the bolt in the cows. Yeah.

I also think even the other end, Being a vet would be very difficult because you have to deal with so many sick animals. Right. I'd find that difficult. I've heard that a lot of vet work is putting animals down. Yeah, I find that very... Yeah. Any job that involved killing an animal or person, like I wouldn't be good at pushing the button.

Right. I mean there's a lot of jobs involved killing people, but I guess hit man or woman. Would you ever be hitman slash hit woman? Yes. I don't think I'd take up the role of hit person. Yeah. I don't know. I'm trying to think. I just don't want to kill anyone. It sounds like a mid-what was the job? Accounts payable. That's just, that's invoicing.

Okay, I've never understood. So there's accounts payable and there's accounts receivable. And in my mind, so if I'm business, right? Yeah. And I'm accounts payable. I'm like, okay, you pay to me. But if I'm accounts receivable, I'm receiving the money. How does that work? When you're receiving the money and you're paying the money. I once did an admin job where I had to say that I was accounts payable or accounts receivable just to put everything through the system. Like nothing dodgy was happening. It was just the way it went through.

It was a small business. But I still can't remember. I did that job. Oh, no. Well, I imagine Nicole is fuming right now. Yeah, that's right. Her area of expertise on the Einstein Factor slash Harn. quiz.

Well, that just means you're going to more likely win. Yeah. So did you have an answer there, Cass? No animal killing. Or people killing. Dave's no brick laying. He'd love to kill animals. Be happy to do it.

Yeah, that's right. But as long as I don't have to kill them with bricks. He's not laying brick into skull. That counts. And you're man? Yeah, I'm thinking like surgeons. So. But yeah, there's reason I just never would be able to do that.

I can't think of a job. Neither of you believing in yourself. I also just want to want to be a doctor because I don't like medical stuff. I find it a bit yuck. Yeah, under the TV shows come on, I'm like, who's watching this? So people who like, I love saying people sick. I don't know. That's how they get their jollies.

I don't know. That's a high-rating TV show. Sick people. In Australia, anyway. Sick people MD or whatever, it's cool. Oh, yeah. Is that the one where they're like, careful, this might be pretty distressing. You're like, all right.

And it's like, this person's dying. You're like, oh, and, oh, and you're not, you can't save them. Well, I hope their family got a lot of money. Yeah. Okay. What, yeah. That's all, there's all you can think of.

You're like, well, I hope they got a lot of money and that has genuinely helped them cover costs. Yeah. Yeah. Being the, being the editor on that TV show, that's the job I wouldn't do. Oh, yeah, you have to watch a lot of footage for that. Probably the cameraman even more. Or woman. No, but I mean not.

Anyway. And finally, from Murray Somerville, who Murray's given himself the title of Senior Head Illustrator of Random Do Go on Moments, 2021. And Murray's offered us a... A great artist too, by the way. You're posting in the Facebook group a lot.

Oh, yeah. You love the style. We talk about this a lot. I love that style. I wish we had them all just to post publicly. Whenever I see him, I go, do you mind if we post this on our feed? Yeah, a few times we have posted on our Instagram page if you want to have a look.

But really, really good. They should all be out there. All on the, sorry, what was the handle for that Instagram page? At do go on pod. At do go on pod. At do go on pod. At dug on pod. Check it out, everybody.

Randy Somerville. So you just give it a follow and you find your Randy Somerville. That's right. What an artistist. And this is Murray's. Randy. I just called him Randy. I'm so sorry.

Murray. I thought that might have been, I thought that was just the handle. Randy Somerville. Sorry, Murray. I don't know. That just slipped out of mind. That's exciting, Murray. You gave yourself a title.

You got a title. That's right. You're Randy some. Randy. All right. What's he got? Fact, quite a question. Fact.

And the fact is, I recently started working in an opera company and started to hear people say chookers before a show. I soon found out that wishing and won another good luck before a performance is actually bad luck. Instead, you say chookers. This is an Aussie slang and dates the 1900s when a full house meant that the cast would be given chicken to eat after the show.

Before curtain up, someone would count how many people were in the audience. If there were a lot, the person counting would yell chookers to let the cast know they wouldn't go hungry. So chukas came to mean good luck. I didn't, yeah, in my head, that wasn't an Australian-only thing. Yeah. There you go. Love it.

I've dabbled in the theatre and I assumed that chookers was a thing you said to everyone. but that was because all my friends were also in the theatre. So I would come out into other social circles and be like chookers and it would make no sense. What the hell are you talking about? Definitely it's leaked in a stand-up. Stand-ups will, people will say it to you sometimes. Well, that's what got me because I started saying it around people who did comedy gigs

and at work where we do podcasting. We do gigs of podcasting. And everyone was like, they accepted it. Yeah. And went out to talk to people with desk jobs. They're like, what are you talking? to me about. I'm like, you know, when you earn enough money,

buy a chicken. Do you think in accounts payable, they say chookers? Yeah, I think so. Win a winner chicken dinner. So I wonder what, so do they just, break a leg is another classic one. Maybe that's just, is it? I don't know where that comes from, though.

Murray, you've got a task for next time. In the opera, do they also say toy? Toy. Anyway, I may have heard that before. Maybe a baby opera. Yeah, maybe. Toy, toy. Or a word similar to that.

Anyway. Cass, would you believe, we've only just begun this second part of the show. Let's whizz through this. Honestly, this is going to be an epically long episode. We also love to thank some of our supporters. And normally Jess comes up with a little game where, you know, something based on the show topic.

Oh, yeah? We attach to each person. So maybe, you know, if the topic was about dogs, we might give everyone a dog name. Okay. Jess is better at it than me, obviously. That's why it's not my role. Okay. Do you have an idea there?

something based on... Okay, if we were all stranded on the island together, what's the job you take up? Okay. We all get one little job, you know? Seamstress is taken. Yep, seamstress is taken, but all the rest of her jobs need to be divvied

because she's working really hard and we want to give Mama break, you know? Sounds fantastic. You know, maybe I'm going to construct the cupboard, you know, but we still got, you know, the gun rack, We need wound tenders. Okay. All right.

How about this, Dave? You and I'll do five each. Cass is going to come up with all the jobs. She feels ready to go. Okay, great, great, great. So I'll kick up with the first five. If that makes you feel okay, Dave. I'd start that sentence with a way that didn't have an easy way to finish it.

If that makes you feel okay, Dave. Yeah, I guess. So firstly, I'd love to thank from Montessano. So in Washington in the United States, Alice Barr or Bear, B-A-A-D-R-E with an accent. Where's the accent? Over the E. Ah. The upward going on.

Baret? Bé-R-A-Barray, okay. Alice, Bure or Bear or Barry or Bury. Alice. What's Alice's job, Cass? Alice will be making, based on their name. They will be assisting a. of the seamstress in constructing polar bear hats or berets.

Whoa. Bear berets. Out of the heads? Or just out of any part of the white fur? I think Alice is pretty resourceful. Yeah. And Alice is not going to let any part of the polar bear go to waste. Every part of the polar bear will be used to make a different beret.

Wow. So you might have a scrote beret. Yep. Crop beret. Bear beret, no bold babe will have a bear head. with these bear berets. My goodness, that's good marketing. She wore a scrow, Timmy Burray.

The kind you found. Hit that Antarctic store. Arctic, fuck. All right. Thank you so much to Alice. And apologies for the last little bit there. I'd also love to thank from Burnaby in British Columbia in Canada, I think. Rebecca Sue, H-S-U-S-U-S-U.

What's Rebecca? From Burnaby? Rebecca from Burnaby. Ah, fire duty. Fire duty. Rebecca will be starting and ending the fire. Ending it. Yeah.

I will end you fire. It is Rebecca's choice when the fire starts and ends. None of us get a say. That's not our job. We don't want to have a say. That's all Rebecca. On you, Rebecca. I believe in you.

Start that fire. Rebecca, Sue, according to how to pronounce on YouTube. Thank you so much. Rebecca Sue. Great name. Love it. And great work there with the fire putting in and putting out. And I would also have to thank from Coburg, just up the road in Victoria, Australia, Alex Tilly. Alex Tilly. What's Alex Tilly up to at camp in the Arctic. Now, Alex is tilling the land. This, I'm going to be real, not fruitful.

But I think it's important that we all have work to do. And I'm glad Alex has a job. What is tilling the land? Oh, it's when you sort of turn over the soil to grow crops. So Kat Stevens' album, Tifa the Tiller Man, is that someone giving dinner for the person who's tilling the land? I always thought it was the beverage. of tea.

Oh. But I don't know. I don't know if a tiller man is that. I mean, all good questions, though, aren't they? Yeah. Oh, God. Aren't we full of them? Yeah.

We're full of something. All Q and O-A. I got a lot of A's in me as well. But Alex, Tiller way, till away. Fantastic work. We need it. It will. And, you know, if we, if we till enough of the land,

maybe some of the snow is going to melt a bit. Maybe it will come to fruition If the land is able to be turned over enough Or you're going to destroy the dirt Really no middle ground with this one Either nothing will ever grow again Or you will make something grow for the first time in many years Worth taking a punt

Yeah and it's entertainment for the rest of us So thank you Alex Thank you Alex Next I love to thank From Ashford in Great Britain Someone with a fantastically British sounding name Elliot Crosby McCulloch Oh that's fun

That's very British to me. That's phenomenal. Elliot's going to be in charge of beverages. Oh, you've got to stay hydrated. Got to stay hydrated. Got to have fun with it. Thank you. Is there any creaming sodas?

Well, that's up to Elliot. I think at this point, maybe there is going to be some theatrics. We are in the wilderness. So maybe Elliot is doing some artisanal things with water. So maybe we're collecting like ice chips to, melt slowly over the water. Maybe we can all become similiers of water. We can see what the difference between the snow water, the ice water, one that we collect

off of dewy leaves. Great, I love this. Water semilier Elliott. Yeah. Well, imagine if you, because you know how you go to different people's houses and you're like, some people have good water and some people have bad water. Hmm, this pause is odd. Sure.

You know how some taps are good, taste? The water tastes better? Yeah. Yeah. Some people have good water at their house and some people... Definitely know that a lot of states and cities here have terror water. Yeah. I think we need Rachel Johnson to get involved there as the supervisor of pipes and pies.

I think the pipe will be playing. Yeah, that is all pipe. So I'd love to thank once more Alice, Rebecca, Alex Elliott and finally Bron here. Is it? Have I got one more? Damn and I can't count. Portland, Oregon in the United States. I'd love to thank Bron stole Engelson.

What's Bronn up to? Bron is in charge of meat tenderization. Okay. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of meat. Well, that's the thing. There's a lot of meat. And when we're looking at animals in the Arctic,

there's going to be a lot of different fat contents, fat concentrations. And we're going to see what we can do. So Bron does have a little bit of a dangerous job. Bron is going to attempt to regoo some polar bear. Ragu. Sorry, I mean, Wagyu. Oh, Wagyu. Not Ragu.

I mean, Ragu will come later, but try and massage a polar bear until all of the blubber ripples into the meat. And it's a lovely melty treat for us. This is while the polar bears still love. Yeah. Bronze really taking one for the whole team and it is for the sake of taste buds. We do have, we do have someone else just for the regular feeds. But bronze for when we want to treat ourselves.

That's, yeah, great. I want, yeah. I wonder, because I never really, obviously I haven't had to put this into practice, but so I don't, I'm not a meat eater per se. Yep. So I wonder how long would take me at a place like this before I'd just go, I'm getting a polar bear. Or is, are you going to have alternative options? Well, Bron is specifically on meats.

That is a area of expertise. Maybe someone from Dave's crew can help with vegetation, but we don't know. I think, well, I don't know. I can't answer that for you. Yeah, because that's the thing. you'd be hungry. Mm. And it's the polar bear's there.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. Waste not whatnot. Waste not what not. I mean... I've always said that. I mean, if you go, we're not going to waste you, so...

Right. Yeah, you'll eat me. Yeah. And I think we should eat each other. But grain fed, I'll, you know, you'd get a pretty good price for me at market. That's good. Grand fed Matt. Well, I go Stewart.

Yeah. Hey, if I get massarded on me into it. Every day. Oh. Thank you so nice. I feel like, yeah, I am tender-a-a-a-a-a-l-l-l-a-l-l-l-l-l-calf. Feels good. I'll be dead-bo.

I reckon you could tender-oze my calf? It's really been playing up. Yeah, if you find yourself out in the wilderness and you're all getting pretty hungry and then one of your friends starts getting hansy, you're next. Yeah, you're on the chopping block. All right, I would like to thank from Marrero in Louisiana. I'm shouting out Alan Abadi Jr. Oh, it's a shout-out.

Well, yeah, this is a big shout out too. So, sorry, it's my turn to thank a couple of people is what we're doing. Really? So Alan also gets a role. But it's Alan a bardie or a baby, maybe they say over there, junior. Love a junior. Ah. What's Alan doing around our camp?

Alan's felling trees. Love that. Yep. And then just, is Alan meant to be felling trees? Is that helpful to us? Or is Alan on a rampage? Yeah, just kicking stuff. Alan hates trees.

Alan came here to do the opposite of erect a flag. It's to take down any standing structure. We do have other members of the crew who will make use of the trees, but no, Alan is simply getting ripped from felling the trees. And the wood gets used, you know. We need fires. Yes. Yeah, but I mean, Rocky Punch Meat, Alan fells trees. Yeah.

You've got to choose how you get ripped. Well, that's great. If we've got Alan felling the trees, it means that planes overhead can see us, which is good. That helps us. Someone's noticing deforestation. People are pretty on top of that these days. That gets us seen faster. And then we've got all this wood, more wood than we know what to deal with.

You know, maybe Bron's going to smoke some meat, you know, with wood chips. So we take down, well, Alan gets rid of so much of the forest that protests start kicking off. And then we just use one of the protesters, mobile phones to call for help. Yeah. If protesters come over, you're like, okay, we'll stop, Alan, if you take me home, please, please let me come on your plane. Oh, God. Yeah, this is a good plan.

Alan's just saved the day. Yeah, because we look at Alan, we're like, we are leaving Alan behind, I imagine. We go to leave and Alan's like, no, my place is here. My work isn't done. That's right. This island's full of tree. And he turns and he takes on all the protesters. Yeah.

We're like, Alan, we don't need the wood. When he turns around, it's like, it was never about the wood. Go. You go. I'll hold him off. No, we've already made a deer where we're all good to go. No, it's time for me to fell fellas. All right, I would like to thank now from the greatest of Britain's place called Bangor.

And that is the location for Sasha or Sasha. Asher Eisenstadt. Sasha Eisenstadt. Sasha or Sasha is on vegetation. It is mainly leaves at this point. Alan does bring down a lot of leaves from up high, which is good. From our pie? Because the trees go into the sky.

Oh, high pies. Our pie. Alpine. I thought Cass said our pie. Oh, up high. But she said, oh, not our pie. pie, up high. What?

I think I'm really hungry for pie. Honestly, the pie wasn't even mentioned. And usually I'm the pie guy, but Matt is taking it in. Every single time food has come up, I have salivated a little bit. Yeah, I'm real hungry. It was embarrassing when it was dog food, but it was fine when I was talking about wagyu beef. But now it's pies that don't exist. Sasha Eisenstadt, thank you so much.

We appreciate that. And great to have you on board. I would like to thank now from Emeryville in California. 498 and Chica sing and Chika sing. And Chica's on construction. Great. Is that real construction or is that like soprano style? I know they're in waste management but you know when someone says, I work in construction.

Oh, you think it's a front. That's a front. You suss on everyone who works in construction. I mean, why else do you think I want to avoid being a brick layer if you know what I mean? Yeah, the foundations of this house are very wonicky. It was meant to be a pun on rickety. I really appreciate that you guys let me feel so comfortable. I can try new material.

I loved it. Anytime you can get a pun, pun, we love. Obviously, Matt, big pun king. I don't understand puns. I accidentally do them sometimes, though. Yeah, maybe, so you're saying people sort of construct, like, concrete shoes and that sort of stuff. That's what you're thinking. Yeah, exactly.

You don't want to be wearing those. So thank you so much to Anishika, and I am not going to double cross you. From Pennsylvania now, from Brian's, how do I say this? Brianigsville. Brianigsville. Beautiful place. I have not heard of it, but I love it. I would like to thank Ian Clansack.

Ian Clansick from Pennsylvania. Ian's doing the video diaries. Now, we don't have the technology now, but Ian's documenting everything that they can, making sure that they write everything down in script form. Oh, right. Okay, fantastic. Ian thinks it's going to be a play. Really, we're going to find it in 50 years and turn it into a cinema.

So we can do a paper edit. Oh, absolutely. Very efficient. Yeah, we do have other members who are on first draft revision, but Ian's taking it down on the front lines. This is good news. Very happy about this. Thanks, Ian.

Playwrights slash documentarian. I like it. And finally, I would like to thank from Perth right here in Western Australia, and by that I mean right here in Australia. We're not at Western Australia. But Sarah Wittem or Witham. Thank you so much, Sarah. Our final role, Cass, what do we need?

What's left? I tell you, you're either with them or you're against them. Am I right? Is that a fun? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you so much for making me feel comfortable. Great. Beautiful stuff.

And big thank you to Sarah. Most dangerous job of all testing berries we find. Oh, that is a classic leaf. We found a big red one. That is a, that's a, yeah. Yeah. Why those ones that look so good and juicy? Well, that's the thing.

We got strawberries and raspberries and blueberries. What are we testing? I can't think of anything red that's poison. Yeah. I can think of red things that are venomous, but I, what, what red thing is poison? Surely we just don't eat them. Yeah, but I don't even know about them. And I know everything.

You know every fruit. I know every, Fruit and berry. No, red one's always the classic, I mean, there's a thing in nature to say, do not eat this. Why does strawberries do this? Red's, the idea is to not eat it. Yeah, it's a warning.

It's a warning for all animals. It's why those really poisonous frogs are that colour, because if you eat them, you die. Right. Red back spiders, they're venomous. I'm afraid that Sarah's eating them all. Hey, Sarah, eat this frog. It's not just berry, Judy.

She eats anything red. Not a red titty. Oh, not another red bag. Well, thank you so much to those supporters. There's only one last thing we've got to do, Cass. Would you believe it? The segment lives on. We induct a few people in our Triptitch Club.

So supporters have been on the shoutout level for three years straight. Get inducted to this very exclusive section. Basically a Hall of Fame. Oh, my God. Slash club. We've got a full bar set up in there. We have live music. We have drinks.

We have all d'oeuvs. And once you're in, you're in for life. Are you up for filling in Jess's role here as well? Yes. What she would normally do is come up with an hors d'oeuvre or a food thing that's usually related to the topic and a drink, a cocktail. Okay. While I'm on the door, I've got the door list here.

I'm going to read out the names. Then Dave normally hipes them up. Yep. He's also booked a band. Who have you booked this week? Well, we've got a classic Icelandic. We've got Bjork slash Bjerk. Wow.

Oh, brilliant. So thank you so much. Probably the most famous Icelander. Yeah, I would say she'd definitely be up there, famous. Sikior Ross. Yeah, they're also from there. Famous Icelandic people, if you Google it. Bjure comes up as number one.

We're playing family food. She's on the board. Yeah, she's definitely on the board. And yeah, what are you thinking for food and drink? So is it one per new entrant or is it one for the night? Right. The menu grows every week. Everything that Jess has already come up with is available.

Brilliant. But there's a new item to the menu. We have 600 people working in the kitchen. That is brilliant. And it's so many more than we had when we were out in the Arctic. So we're doing an hors d'oeuvre and a cocktail based on what we found. Okay. So the cocktail will be based on ice water.

Fantastic. It is going to have an ash rim from the. fire. Beautiful. And it will also, oh, do you know what? No, the cocktail is made with oat milk from the bag, used to care for the sick man.

Foot milk. Mm-hmm. Foot milk. So it's going to be oat milk made from dripped ice water from our lovely, I've forgotten which of our delightful helpers is on the water sommelier role. Important role. A really important role. They've got collected the ice water.

They've gotten the oats. So it's an oat milk thing. It's got an ashram. So let's think, oh, it's feeling like toast. It's feeling, I'm feeling toast vibes. What goes with toast? Marmalade jam. That is good.

Okay, so we're going to get our jam made out of the red berries that Sarah has tested. And we are going to distill. Oh, actually, the alcohol is going to be brandy. And it's going to be from that, oh, sand, Sam, the man by the fire with the nightcap. Yes. Oh, Stephenson. Stephenson. It's going to be Stephenson's brandy,

and it's going to taste like a boozy toast with marmalade. Oh, that sounds great. I think Jess said water last time, so. Okay. Love that. Love the thought that's gone into that. Fantastic. And maybe a little food on the side.

Maybe the toast to dip it in. Just literal toast. Yeah, and the toast is going to be spread with massage polar bear wagyu. Oh. Fantastic. Oh, thank goodness. I'm glad we're making use of our 10 polar bear carcasses that we had delivered. Secretly.

And that's just this week. We're definitely going to run out of the Wagyu about halfway through the night. It will be replaced with chum. And no one's going to know. No, no, no. So there are only four inductees this week. And the way this is going to work, Cass, is, I'll say their name. Dave then hypes them up.

So you picture them. They're running into the club. I'll lift you up the velvet rope. Dave's hyping them up. But Dave is a sensitive soul and he doesn't always feel like he's done the best hype job. So then your job is to hype Dave up. Every hype man needs a hype woman. So thank you so much.

Behind every hype man is a hype woman. Beautifully sad. Okay, so let's get into it. This is nice and fuss, just like the rest of the show. Very snappy. Here we go. All right. I'm feeling good.

Who will be welcoming tonight? All right. Let me check this guest list. Matt, read him out. Here we go. All right. From Baldivis in Western Australia, it's Samuel Limbory. Limbri.

Limber off for Limbri, am I right? Yeah. Dave, oh my God, out here with the finger guns. Wow, put them away, buddy. We don't have a license to carry those. Put up. Thank you so much. The next person is from address unknown and surname unknown.

It's Aiden. Oh, Faden without Aiden. Thank goodness he's here. Oh, God. And we'd be lost without you too, Dave? From cows in the Isle of Right in Great Britain, it's Matt Barber. Oh, a harbourer, a fever for Barber. Oh, God.

And Dave's got such a presence like that. Remember that cartoon with the elephant named Baba? Yeah. Woo! And he's wearing a crown. And finally from Horsham in Victoria, Australia. It's Lauren Andrew. Horsham, I was feeling Portium before you turn.

up tonight. Oh, and aren't we all richer for your company, Dave? Yeah, thank you. It's like, I'm being like, let's try and make this about me. Thank you so much. You make me feel great. You're honestly, great high person. Appreciate that.

You know what, Dave? You make the job easy. Thank you. Well, that brings us to the end of the episode. Tass, you made it. Thank you so much. Sticking out late. Thanks so much for everyone for joining us.

those who made to the end are the true believers. We appreciate you most of all. Dave, how can people find the show online or whatever? Well, I must say that I recently rewatched the footage. We will be releasing some live episodes that we filmed at the Melbourne Comedy Festival soon.

Details to come. But as in the edit, I called some members of the audience, True Believers. And Matt goes, we never call you that. And he just did it. This feels good.

This feels good. Yes, that's going to be a stupid old, stupid old presents. Yeah, sOSPresents.com. We'll have the four live shows. I think we're talking about it, maybe it being one ticket, gets you access to all four. Sounds good.

A four-puck super pass. Yes, that's right. So keep your eyes out for that. It'll be coming out very, very soon. We will, of course, announce it on here on social media. But you can get in contact with us at do go onpod.com, but we are just a few podcasts here at dogoonpod.com. many, many more podcasts can be found at sandspansradio.com, MRI cast.

Oh, that is right. That is right. Yeah, oh, including, because if, oh, what about dogo D&D? Oh, D and D&D. Do go on? Dogo D&D. I think it was Dogo D&D. That's on the Sandspans. That's on the Sandspans.

That's a co-pro. Yeah, we're going to do another one of those if we're, you know, we keep saying, oh, once we're allowed out again and hopefully we haven't missed that window. Yeah, we keep getting put back in. No, sanspanspradio.com. And you host many shows on that network. Yeah, I'm on some D&D. That's D&D is for nerds.

I'm on shut up a second. I like to describe that one as, hey, you've got thoughts you don't want. We'll give you new one. It's like fall in a sleeper to sleepover with your friends. That's nice. Yeah. And we're Dave and I and Jess have all been on multiple episodes of different ones there. Yeah, I think.

The most recent one I was on was a, a Haggwood's footy episode, which happened after a Saints win, so I was pretty chirpy. You were up for it that day. Did you agree to it before you knew the result? No, I think that, I mean,

I'd be happy to go on any time, but I think they only asked me on after a win. Yeah, fair enough. Because I think they maybe think I'm more sensitive than I am. Normally by the time they record midweek, or whenever it is, I've moved on. It is hard to understand you when you're crying, though. I've experienced that.

Yeah, how to talk through tears. Oh, no. But yeah, I definitely. I definitely encourage people to check out more of your shows, Cass. And, of course, you've been on many episodes of Book Cheat and Primates over the years, one of our absolute favorite guests, and we've been absolutely stoked that you could come on, do go on. It was my absolute honour to be here. Thank you so much.

Part of the Primates Dream Team. Absolutely, yeah. On the most recent Primates episode, which is the live episode, if you haven't heard it, it's fantastic stuff. Very, very, very fun. This tells a great story about a royal who died at the hands of a monkey. Oh, that was awesome. And I was in the room watching the live show. And I've got to say, you made me feel like a bit of a hack,

because you wheeled off this amazing story with zero notes in front of you. We're always cheating with a bit of a laptop or something in front of us, but you just rift it basically, straight from the top of your dome. Yeah, that was amazing. Look, it would have come out a lot better had I given myself some notes. I just don't think it could have. It just came out. It was very, very funny and very interesting.

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