Do Go On - 293 - Raëlianism, A UFO Religion (with Ben Russell)

Episode Date: June 2, 2021

This week we are joined by our good friend Ben Russell to tell us about one of his favourite cults, Raëlianism (AKA Raëlism). Described as religion for atheists, we attempt to unpack their practices.We just released videos of our four shows recorded in Melbourne in April. Check them out here: https://sospresents.com/programs/dgo-micf For tickets to Matt's shows in Sydney and Melbourne: https://www.mattstewartcomedy.com/Watch Ben Russell in his own cult based web series, Hug The Sun: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNuaFLcbAeycQAIAW5s7T0Q Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodBuy tickets for our screening of The Mummy on September 10: https://www.lidocinemas.com.au/mummyBuy tickets to our streamed shows (there are 12 available to watch now! All with exclusive extra sections): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Check out Matt’s Beer show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej4TUguJL58 Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/ Our awesome theme song by

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.

Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal, and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. To go on. My name is Dave Warnke, and as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins.

Hello, Jess. Hello, Dave. It's great to have you here, Jess, but we're not always joined by comedy royalty. No offence, Matt Stewart. Can we please welcome as a special guest to the show from Hug the Sun. It's Ben Russell. Thank you so much. Comedy royalty, I don't know if that's...

If it is, if I am part of the comedy royalty, that I'm like one of those like dukes that nobody fucking knows about or cares about. Yeah, you're a cousin. Yeah. One of those ones that has a real job. Yeah, I've got to have a real job, you know. But like diehard royal fans would know who you are. That's right, for sure.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, those royal nerds. Yeah, they'd be like, how do you not know who Duke Ben is? Yeah. He's the 30th in line. the throne. Yeah. If there was some sort of fire or terrorist attack, he could very well take the top job.

You just don't know. He's heavily inbred. He's got a funny little walk. And he's blind in one eye. He's got hemophilia. A lot of them do, don't they? Yeah, they do because they are so inbred. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, it's great to have a Duke of Comedy here. Ben, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me, David, Warnicky. Now, I think something that may take you from... And Jess, thanks for having me, Jess, as well. A pleasure has always been here. This isn't just Dave's...

This isn't Dave's podcast. It's not. It's your podcast as well. I kind of turn up. I'm like the bad boy. Really? I'm the cool kid in the back of the class of this podcast. Who's Matt then?

Our grandpa? Yeah, like some old professor that turns up. Krusty old professor. Yeah, he's the Krusty old dean. Yeah. Oh, so what are you got? talking about today. You guys are smoking a bit of marijuana.

Yeah, I like. I won't tell your parents, but don't bloody do it again. Give it here. Off your pop. Get here. He's got a large collection in his shit. Well, Ben, thank you so much for coming on the show, as I said. Something that may elevate you from a Duke to possibly one rank above a Duke

is the great success of your Hug the Sun web series that's been coming out lately. Yes, very pleased with how it's been going. People have been seeing it, people have been watching it, people have been saying, hey, good job. And a few people have been saying mean things in the YouTube comments.

But apart from that, it's fine. Everything's good. I think of all places YouTube, you're going to get mean comments. Oh, yeah. I, you know, I think that's a sign of success. Yeah, you especially have left some real bad, real nasty ones. Just I don't really feel that comfortable telling you my feedback in person.

Yeah, they're not even about the show. It's just personal attacks. Yeah. I was like, trim your mustache, your dog. Oh. Wash your butt, you know what, you dirty boy. I refuse. I say little things like that.

Yeah. And they're hurtful. I know where you live and I'm going to kill you. Stuff like that. Just fun, lighthearted. It's a feedback from my friend. Followed by my, you know, home address and phone numbers. Yeah, a dox year.

A lot of people. Doxing going on at the Hug the Sun YouTube comments. Yeah, big time. I've been noting down every cast member's address, so I've got a full book now, so thanks for that. Uh-oh. We know how you like books, Dave. Yeah, a little too much.

If people haven't seen any of the series yet, Ben, can you give them a little idea of what the series is about? Sure, so it's available on YouTube at Grousehouse. That's the channel's name. Grousehouse, it's called Hug the Sun. and it is an after-school show, a kid's variety show, that is strongly flavored with religious overtones on a fictional religion that Xavier and I have made up.

It's sun-based, their sun-worshipping cult, basically. And it's set in the sort of early, late 80s, early 90s, and so it's kind of got this found footage restored look to it. And it's just a good fun. It's about 10 minutes. You know, they're approximately 10 minutes. I think they're always a little bit under, but it's always a good time.

And it's always a bit, I dare to say, strange. A bit odd. Yeah. So some strangeness. It's a bit silly, is it? Yeah, there's definitely some silliness for it. But it's also a little bit spooky too. Oh.

Yeah, it's got some spookiness. because I am fascinated by cults. I love them. I think it's wonderful. I love the fact. I'm fascinated by religion in general and cults especially because the only thing that's different between a religion and a cult is time. Sure.

Yeah, yeah. Tragedy plus time. Would you join a cult? Would I join a cult? Yeah. Well, I mean, I have done improv. So, yeah. The answer to that is yes.

Same thing. You've taught improv. I've taught improv. I've taught improv. I've taken, I studied improv at Second City as well as I owe in Chicago Town. So, yeah, I've been a part of a cult and it was pretty cool. It doesn't make you sound like, honestly it is cult-like and that everything the leader says you have to say yes and to. No matter what they say, everything.

Yeah. Yep. You're not allowed to say no. Just say yes. How dare you say no? Yeah. No, that's very. Yeah, you get ostracized and they turn your brain.

back on you. And you give them lots of money as well. So it's got all the hall marks of a cult. Well, I'm glad that you are a big fan of cult. So I feel like that may somehow thread into the report that you prepared for us. I actually don't know. Another digest what it's going to be on. But for people that may be tuning in for the first time, what we do is we take it in terms of a report on a topic and go away, do a bit of research, bring it back to the other members of the pod. and Ben, thank you so much for volunteering to go away and research something. You're welcome.

I cannot guarantee the quality of my research. Hey, that's okay. Neither can I. I never graduated university. Hey, I did. And I still, most weeks go. Yikes. So, yeah, I wouldn't worry about that.

Yeah. We're here to support you. Thank you. We're going to yes and you all along here. Too much. We're going to have some fun. Uh-huh. And we're just going to have it.

It's like having. having a chat, but you learn a little bit. I'll keep it casual, you know what I mean? Great. I love that. So Jess, what's your favourite cult? Ooh. Hmm. Hmm. I kind of feel a little bit like

going to a Catholic all-girls school has a bit of a cult vibe. Well, Catholicism is very cult-like. Yeah, Catholicism is quite cult-in. I can say that as a non-practicing Catholic. I'm allowed. Is that all it takes? Anything with a sort of central figure hair?

as well as a lot of mysticism and magic involved. Yeah. And, of course, they own a lot of money. I mean, they own a lot of property as well. And, you know, they've shown themselves to not be particularly great people. They don't pay any or not. No tax. Yeah, no tax.

So that's fun. Yeah. I'd like to learn more about, because the main cults that we've talked about or that I've read about or watched docos on. are pretty violent. Yeah. People are killed. So I don't want to say like, my favorite cult is the Jones Town massacre.

Of course I don't want to say that. But I want to learn more about some just weird ones. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm the same sort of, I like cults and I'm fascinated by them. But also they can be quite morbid because, I mean, a lot of cults end up in with a lot of people dying or some people dying or some people getting, you know, quite victimized in horrific ways. So Xavier wanted to do one on the A.M. Shinrikio cult,

which is a Japanese death cult. Nice and light. Yeah, nice and light. And they did a big terrorist attack in Japan. It was Sarin Gas in 95. I was hoping it was just a name, but damn. Yeah, so I was out of, I was out. I was like, no, let's not do that.

My favorite cult, I have to say, would be like, you know, heaven's gate is a great one. But again, they killed themselves with the return of Haley Bob or Haley Common. Oh, I see. But their website is still online and it still looks like it's straight out of the sort of late 80s. It's really good. It's worth a check. Someone's still hosting it. God bless them.

Worth a browse. Yeah. They left behind one IT guy. Yeah. To carry on. And another cult that really, you guys have actually done a report on this, is the Branch Davidians with David Koresh and the Waco siege. An amazing story.

Incredible. Also horrific. But fundamentally changed the way that the FBI dealt with cults in the United States and led to Timothy McVeigh doing the big, Oklahoma city bombings. So it was kind of a massive deal. Yeah. And then there's everyone's favorite, Brian Jonestown, yeah.

What about you, Dave? Doctor Who? Doctor Who? That's a cult classic. I don't know if you fully understand. You said there's a charismatic leader. It makes lots of money, I assumed. Yeah.

Yeah. I feel like you've covered, like, the one, I must say, I love it when we talk about a cult on here. I was fascinating, but I don't really dig into them too much. myself. So I feel like the name brand ones, which are a few of the ones you've mentioned, are the ones that I, no, the only other one I can really think of is from the Simpsons, the movementarians who I... Yeah. There's also a recent one which I got kind of obsessed with, which I'm not talking

about, which I was almost going to, is this orgasm cult that happened in Silicon Valley, where it was sort of pitched to sort of young millennial Silicon Valley types. and you would go into a room and they would just make you have an orgasm in front of people. They'd make you. Well, yeah, they would. So they'd be like,

hey, it's a good stress relief to come and so you'd go over there and they'd make you come and you'd pay their money. But the leader ran away with a bunch of money. Who knew? What? If only there was some way

that we could have known that the leader of an orgasm cult had selfish intentions. Yeah, that, I wouldn't have. seen that one coming. Why don't it have to be public, you know, in front of everyone else? Well, that's the way. Obviously, you don't get it. That's fine, Dave. It's not for you. Look, I'll stick to my Doctor Who DVDs, all right?

The one that I really wanted to, that I've been fascinated with, I remember as a boy watching a story on them on Perth news, on the nightly news, because I think that they came to Perth or they had a Perth sort of chapter, is the race. The railions. The railions. And the reason I like the railions is because they haven't murdered anyone. Good, we like that. And they don't like to call themselves a cult.

None of them do. They're a movement. Yes, they're always a movement, a collective, a community. Yeah. And these guys haven't done anything terrible. They've claimed to do a couple of things. But I mean, a lot of it is not. You don't buy into it.

I have to say. If there are any Rayelians listening, I apologize if I get some facts wrong. But your religion is confusing. So maybe make it a bit clearer. I read. Just lost 90% of our audience there, Ben. I got deep into book one of one of the books that the leader Rayelle wrote. And it is not an easy read.

Okay. Okay. It is, apologies, no offense intended, absolute nonsense. I'm really glad, though, you've said up the top that nobody dies because now I feel comfortable just like sticking the boot in and taking the piss. That's the beauty of it. That's why I was like, I don't want this. No death.

No death, please. No death. You know, natural causes or, you know, sure, but not directly related to the movement. That's right. Not cult. The cult or the movement are people that live forever. That would be good, wouldn't it? If they didn't die at all, ever.

So, Ray L, who is the leader and prophet of Raylians, of the Raylian movement, is a man. He's a French man. Rayal. Yep. Now picture someone in a sort of 70s science fiction costume with the shoulder pads, like that V tunic. Yes.

And they've got a bald head with hair on the sides and a little top knot. Like a kind of science fiction. 80s science fiction samurai. Fry a tuck meets. Yeah. Aedes. Got a nice 80s beard and speaks in a very heavy French accent. That is Rael, also known as Claude Vaux, Vorilhon.

Vorelon. Vorelon. Is this all one word? Okay. Claude Vorilom. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah.

Now, Claude. Claude, he's got a nice sort of journey. Okay, he's not a, he genuinely, I believe that he genuinely believes that these things happen to it. I would like to think that he's not, this isn't like some kind of grand manipulative plan. Although it could be, you never know with these cunts. Sorry, I said C. I said the cun word. I apologize.

But he was a sports car journalist and test driver for racing cars. Look, I don't know what I expected, but a cult leader wouldn't have expected to be a car test driver. I don't know why that is, but that's just probably the most shocking career it could have been. This is prior to his encounter, because I haven't told you what they believe. And this is, so I'm setting the scene here. Yeah. Yeah. So he was editor for...

for a car racing magazine called Auto Pop. A dip up. Auto Pop. I love it. And he was on the road a lot. Okay, he was traveling. He was moving and shaking. He was going, doing races and being in cars and having a good time.

Okay? But he was also riding for them. So he's a writer, okay? He knows how to write. Yeah. Unlike David, who cannot write. David cannot write. He can read, but he can't write.

Yeah, it's a baffirm. baffling thing he's got going on. It's all true. It's really odd. He often makes me write stuff down. Just so I can read it back. And then reads it. Yeah.

So this is the thing. So Rayallianism has often been described as religion for atheists. Okay. In a way. It's pretty small as well. It says that there are 90,000, but people are like,

we reckon there's about 20,000. So it's quite a small cold in the grand scheme of things. But they're everywhere. They're all around the world, okay? You could be friends with araeli and you wouldn't even know. Yeah, we might have one who listens. Yeah. They might be doing sensual meditation,

which is part of their practices. And you wouldn't even notice. Wow. Yeah. He was born in Vichy, which is a beautiful town in France. Beautiful. Bishi was so beautiful.

This is a little bit off topic. It was one of Hitler's favorite places. Ah, wow. During the occupation. He loved it. He loved it, did he? He loved it because Napoleon loved it. Okay.

There you go. So it's a real hot spot. Did you have that fact locked and loaded? Or when you were looking it up, did it mention on its Wikipedia that it was, what of Hitler's faves? I already knew that. I wasn't even planning on saying that, but here I am saying it right now. Have you got a list of Hitler's five favorite hotspots? Hitler's five favorite hotspots.

Number five, Vichy France. Number four, the Eagles Nest. Um, number, okay, we can go on. I'll stop. Catholic father, no, sorry, Jewish father, apparently. Catholic mother, but she is atheist, apparently. One day, okay? It's a beautiful day in December, 1973.

He's driving and he stops and he's hiking. He has a little hike. He drives and then he hikes. I know. Hit you a man who can do both. he's in a secluded area in in southern central France it's a volcanic crater and he feels an electricity in the air the atmosphere it's so secluded there's no one else around there's thick cloud very close by and he hears a whirring and he sees a red light in the clouds and the light is just hovering and then slowly comes down

and through the cloud you see a silver flying saucer. Wow. That's right. They usually are silver, aren't they? That feels like a pretty classic colour. Yeah. There's a lot of classic nods

to older sort of science fiction in Ray L's teachings. In fact, I'll get to that a little bit later, but he has been accused to play Jerusalem. from a number of different religions and science fiction authors from the 50s, 60s and 70s. But it's entirely based on his experience. Yes, that is correct. Oh, please, Tommy Doctor Who gets a mention, please.

It seems to be real. So it lands down, a little trap door opens up, and stairs come out. Okay? Like an attic, leather. Yeah. That's how he says a little trapdoor comes out and just pop out. That's what he says in his book. Wow.

Which is a very confusing book. And he tells you, he's telling you all this. This is up in the top of the book. And then pretty much the rest of book one is him just going through Genesis and sort of the early parts of the Old Testament just going, it's actually aliens. But we'll get to that little bit later. You did copy and paste of Genesis because the word count wasn't long enough for his publisher.

So he's like, can we beef it up a bit? Anyway, I get ahead of myself and I apologize if I'm all over the place. But from that trapdoor, a childlike figure that is about four foot, shorter than me. I'm five foot two. Okay, this is a four foot man.

Okay. Got black, long hair, long black hair, black beard. Okay. So it's not a child, you know that for sure. Sure. Or it's a child with some sort of testosterone imbalance. Yeah, maybe. Or it could be Mediterranean. Yeah. And just grown early. He's like 12, but hormones have kicked in. He's not grown, but the beard's there. Yeah.

He does, however, have sort of pale white skin with a greenish tinge. And this is, I quote, like someone with liver trouble. Liver trouble. Liver trouble. And he's wearing a green one piece. Shiny green one piece. And he's got a strange halo or shimmer around him. And he's talking to him via telepathy.

And he says, Claude, we made you come here. Suck shit. We made you come here. You idiot. I've been controlling you through telepathy. And he's like, what? He's like, let me ask you, this.

question, Claude, okay, have you bought a Bible? And he's like, yeah, I did, even though I'm atheist.

I did buy a Bible, and I've been reading it recently. He's like, yeah, I fucking made you do that, you idiots. Yeah. Whoa.

And then he says, come back, and we've chosen you, okay, you've been chosen, you're going to help us. You're the one. Okay, you're a Neo.

And he's like, why me? And he's like, well, okay, they needed someone, someone in a country where new ideas were welcomed. Where it was possible to talk openly about these ideas. Democracy was born in France.

They're going to be open to it. You need a free thinker. All the people they chose the guy who test drives cars. Yeah. You've got a Jewish father and a Catholic mother. Okay, so you're open to things, all right? And you're not a scientist, nor are you a literary genius. so you won't over-complicate things.

You're a bit dumb, Claude. You're a bit stupid, so you'll simplify stuff. And also, we wanted someone that was born after the atomic bomb was dropped for some reason. Right. I don't know why. These guys throughout, he loves talking about atomic weapons, atomic things. The aliens love atomic weapons and use atomic missiles and atomic ray guns. It's real like 70s, you know, just science fiction.

The atom bomb is still magic. So it's kind of fun. It's kind of fun to hear all the... No, you don't hear people going, oh, it's atomic. Yeah, no. Yeah, it's cool. I like the language that he uses, even though that it's mostly nonsense.

Anyway, he says, get out of go, come back tomorrow with your bum. eyeball and a not often do people have well not that I've heard of the paranormal experiences I've heard about it's been like they've blacked out and woken up somewhere

a bit different and then they remember stuff later or it happens once and then but these guys are saying go away let's meet back here same time same place bring some coffee maybe a little cake wouldn't say another little cake bring some snacks

brings some snacks, we'll be peckish. And then we'll hang out some more. That's interesting. Yeah. He comes back the next day. Yeah? Little green man with liver trouble. He's there.

He brings him into his ship. He tells him, hey man, I'm an Elohim. I'm a part of the Elohim. We created the humans in all life on Earth. Oh, okay. I did there now. Yeah. I think God would have a little something to say about that.

Well, see, this is what the Ray aliens believe. They believe that this, basically it's ancient astronaut. That's the sort of genre of science fiction that we're doing. Okay. Right. So that's the ancient astronaut genre. One man's God is another man's science. You know, science.

And the Bible is correct. However, it's just simple, it's oversimplified, right? So all these things that happened, Ray L then explains they did happen. They're real, but, you know, this is why. This is actually the science behind it. This is how it's been interpreted. This is the mistake in the interpretation.

And so the day that he comes back, the alien sets the record straight and just quotes nonstop Bible verses at him and says, yeah, actually, this was, This is actually science, so you really... It's pretty cute how in the Bible they said, Jesus did that himself, but no signs. I haven't gotten into any Jesus stuff. We're mainly in Genesis.

Yeah, right. Early Bible. And so as Claude just got the red pen out, and he's just crossing bits out, annotating, being like wrong, incorrect. Absolutely. Incredible. Yeah.

So one day, a long, long time ago Elohim scientists were studying the galaxy. They were charting and looking for other planets. Elehim are kind of quasi-immortal and very advanced in

science and can communicate telepathically. Right, but they don't have medicine to treat people with liver disease. Is that a problem? No. They've got a, they're very free love. So Elohim love to fuck

Their DTF All day long 24-7 Must be exhausting Yeah And they are coming across this They come across earth And they're flying saucer And they say

Hang on a tick The light is good This is a line That's a direct Sort of a That's he's starting to do the first day God created this, God created that

Are they doing the bloody Open house? Like oh Good natural light. Yes. Absolutely. Good natural light. Kind of quiet neighborhood.

No neighbors. We could have a party here. We could make something here. So their scientists come over and they're like they split into groups and they start having little competitions with each other, the scientists. First they make the fish. Then they make the birds. Then they're like dinosaurs and dragons.

What do you think about that? And they give them a shot and they're like, no, don't worry about it. Then the hurt. herbivores pop in and then the carnivores pop in. So they make carnivores to to sort of regulate the herbivore populations.

Then this is where this shit gets crazy. Because the scientists make little test tube babies. They make humans. What? And the Elohim government

back home on Elohim world is all like, dudes, what are you doing, man? Stop fucking around with the test tubes. Because we don't want these cunts to be real smart and then come and kill us, okay?

You can't be doing this. You can't be doing this shit. And they're like, we're going to do it anyway. We're a scientist, we're going to have a bit of fun. Classic scientists, classic. They always just want to have a little bit of fun and nobody will let them have fun. Yeah. The scientists later become exiled and are referred to

as the creators. And there's one of them called Yahweh. But I get confused about that sort of stuff coming on. Each race of human corresponds to the scientist that created them. They're made of their own image. I see. So they're like clone themselves and pop them on there. Use a little bit of their own jizz.

Yeah, that's right. They jizzed into test tubes. they put in the microwave, boom, you get another human. Baby. Boom, baby. Now, here's some, it starts to get a little bit straight. This is the first time my ears go, hmm. Because they go, the best team of scientists, the best were the Israel team.

Oh, okay. They made the best ones, the Israelites, and their animals were the most beautiful. and their people were the most beautiful. And so they were like, but the government's like, you guys got to shut this the fuck down, okay? And so they kind of shut it down, but it gets confusing.

It's not really well written. And somewhere along the line, we're shutting it down, but we're also making these two real good ones, and they're going to fuck around in the Garden of Eden, in the most perfect place. This is the Israel team.

The Israel team were like, we're going to make these fucking sick hunts and they're going to be the best. And they're doing all this sorts of things. And Adam and Eve, the two men and lady, they're running around without skin, talking animals and shit. And the serpent's like, yo, dudes, this is actually what's cooking. You are created by the elheim. And then Adam and Eva are like, you got to fucking get us in on this. You got to get us in on this. one in. And they try and get into the library that is filled with all the el-lehim knowledge.

And the government's like, see, this is exactly what we didn't want. Okay. So they forced the scientists to be like, you've got to guard them with atomic weapons. And we got to put some skin on these uppity humans. They had no skin. Yeah. I don't like that bit. You got to put some skin, get in some clothes, and kick them out. Yeah, it can't be immortal like us. You got to kick them out and put them into the world. And then you've got to, because the serpent was so mean, you've got to make that a slippery little snake that runs around on the floor all day.

Okay, that's their punishment. So the snake was just trying to tell the truth. And he gets punished for it, which is a bit of a dark act. The snake was like a whistleblower. Yeah, exactly. Wow. Yeah. And then in the Bible, it's all like, oh,

this evil naughty snake. So humans are more powerful. They're more intelligent than the Elohim, but they don't live as long. And that's kind of their stopgap to make sure that they don't rise up against the Elaheim. Because we die. Yeah.

But the government's still not happy on Elaheim. Okay? What more do they want? Because humans have started to learn shit and more shit, and they're like, we can't. They're getting better. So we're going to send a bunch of atomic missiles over to Earth.

And meanwhile, the scientists, the creators, they're like, no, dude, we just fucking, we made all this stuff. We're going to get this guy Noah and we're going to teach him how to make a spaceship. And he's going to put one of every animal in the spaceship because part of the

realist belief is physicalism, which is everything that we experience and feel is real and physical. It has a physical form and manifestation. Even one person has enough data in them to recreate more. You can get blueprints off me and make more if no one else lives.

Okay. Yeah. So he put two of everything in there to save it. They fly up. The missiles hit. It submerges all the continents in water, which doesn't really make sense because it's at atomic wouldn't it just like flash evaporate all the water but it doesn't matter. Well, I suppose if it was like a giant, like a meteor type thing,

if it like made a massive splash or something. Yeah. Oh, that'd be cool. But the splash was so big, we all got splashed. Yeah, you like, you throw a pretty decent size like rock or brick into water and it kind of goes like and blunk and makes a big splash. That's sick. That's one of my favorite things I do with my entire life.

That's true. You're right. I apologize. I'm so sorry. Big splash. So it's just kind of filled, like, this book is just filled with shit. It's pretty much all this. It's almost like, it's all like, this is actually what it was.

And it starts to get really old, really quickly. It's the same thing. It's not a great read. It's just not fun, really. Very dry. But you can listen to the audiobook. Ooh. It's on their website.

Oh, as read by? It's Claude, read it? Some English, dude. I'll play you some. I can play it through my speaker, through my channel, actually. Cool. Here, I'll give you,

this is a little bit about Sodom and Gormor. No, here we go. Samson and Delilah. Samson, can you hear that? Yes. In Judges, Chapter 13, there is yet another example of mating taking place between the creators and human women.

And the angel of Yahweh appeared unto the woman and said, you are barren and have no child, but you shall conceive and give birth to a son. Judges 13, verse 3. It was necessary that the fruit of this union be healthy, so that the behavior of the child could be studied. This is why he tells her, And drink not the wine nor strong drink,

and eat not any unclean thing, for lo, thou shall conceive and bear a son, and no razor shall come on his head, for the child shall be a Nazarene, consecrated unto God from the womb. Judges 13, verse 4 through 5. Later, it is written. And the angel of...

It's just that over and over again. Wow. So, sorry, just to clarify, pregnant woman, no wine and don't eat dirt. Yeah. What can you do? You can't even take a razor to your own baby. I've got a hairy baby.

No cured meats, no soft cheese, no dirt. Are you fucking kidding? me. What was left? God damn it. Later in this chapter, he goes on to say that hair is actually antenna for our inert telepathy that goes into our brain.

So the hair is connected to the brain and his antenna. Right. And they picked a half bald man, half bald man to be their representative. He always got a little top, not up top. Yeah, he's got a little antenna. He's big antenna out of the bat. Yeah, so don't be shaven.

Please. Another one, which was fun, is that the Tower of Babel was actually a rocket ship. Okay. And the government back on Elaheim was like, see, they're doing it again. We're going to make them talk different languages now. And that's how everyone talks different languages. It makes sense. It makes a lot of sense, guys.

The more you think about it, the more and more sense. Jonah and the whale. Jonah, the whale was actually a submarine. Oh, okay. It's an easy mistake. You're fucking idiots. I often see a submarine. I go, oh, there's a cute little whale over there, and vice versa.

The amount of submarines I've tried to pat, honestly. So long story short, they are other belief that we are descendants from ancient aliens, from an ancient astronaut, team of astronauts, that cloned themselves and made us. So we are clones from aliens. It feels very Scientology. Yeah. but is somehow different.

Different outfits? Different outfits. There's no famous people that are Raylians. There are no famous railions, or at least they keep quiet on it. Yeah, they're closeted Raylands. So all this, you still have no idea what the fuck they believe. Yeah, I guess so.

Yeah. What is their outlook? Let me tell you, it's very difficult. to find that out. They just believe this shit and then the rest is so sort of buried in nonsense that it's hard to figure it out. Okay.

I don't really... I mean, they believe in free love and they believe in free the nipple. They want women to get their tits out. They're big activists in that. So it's very... It feels very... It feels very French.

Yeah, okay. It's like French Scientology, basically. Wow. A little bit sexy. You know what I mean? Okay, yeah. Raleans believe that humanity would be able to create life on other planets, only if it's peaceful enough to stop war.

This is quoted from a Wikipedia page. So I apologize. Humanity could travel the distance between, if done, humanity can travel the distance between stars and create life on other planets. Progress in terraformation, monocular biology and cloning would enable these teams to create continents and lives from scratch.

Progress in social engineering would ensure that this creation would have better chance to both survive and yada, yada, yada, bullshit. And that's kind of what they believe. Right, but we've got to get it, we've got to have peace here before we can go to other places. Is that sort of what they're trying to get at with the... Yeah, we've got to have peace.

They're very based, they're peace-based, they are progressive in terms of they kind of believe in feminism but it's kind of this weird like women should get their boobies out we're feminists is that where it is? Women should be able to get the boobies out

and fuck whoever they want. If it's me, I'm happy with that. They are, they practice, you know, they're bisexual, so they're pretty chill, you know, they're pretty fucking chill. And yeah, that's,

they want to, their ultimate goal, at the moment is to create a embassy for the Elohim. So when the space scientists return, they have a place to work in order to offer guidance for the advancement of humankind. Wow. Yeah.

How did it kind of go from him having this extraterrestrial encounter to then, you know, getting other people on board and... Well, they said that's what they wanted. They were like, dude, you got to... this is all, we want you because you're a little bit dumb, you're not too smart, and your mother is Catholic and your dad's a Jew. I feel like the criteria they gave him could fit a lot of people. Yeah.

He's not that special. He's like me. I see myself in him. Okay. You know? Now we're getting somewhere. And that might be it. I think the appeal of it is that everything is physical and they use meditation and the peace and sort of pacifism and love are the keys to human advancement, which I would agree.

Nothing wrong with that. I think that's cool, you know. When they start to get a little bit weird when they have kind of, you know, sex parties and shit like that. Okay, sure. A little bit too full on for me. But, you know, maybe that's my own thing that I have to get over. You know what I mean?

Their symbol has a little swastika in it. Yes, I was going to get to that. So the symbol... Oh, I'm so sorry. No, no, I'm glad that you're... I couldn't help but look them up and... When you see it, you have to bring it. It definitely...

Because I was like, do they know what they've done? And then the caption under the symbol on Wikipedia says, the Oralian symbol with the swastika. I'm like, Okay, yeah, they're aware. Okay. So the Raylian symbol is the star of David with a swastika inside it. Okay, oh my God.

So the listeners, you're probably going, that doesn't feel right. But he says that the swastika was stolen by Hitler and they're trying to reclaim it. Because the swastika is a symbol of peace. It's used in a lot of different religions as a symbol of peace. and it, that's what, that's why they use it because they're trying to reclaim the swastika back from the Nazis. Right. Yeah.

As like a branding exercise, like I feel like if they got like professional like PR people to look at that, if you want to get more people on board with your movement slash cult, I feel like as soon as you see the swastika, it does put up a little barrier for me. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Me too, because listen, this is going to be very brave for me, but I don't like Nazis.

Wow. Thank you for being brave on this podcast. I think that they should all just go into the sun. Yeah. You know? Get in the sun. Get in the sun, Nazis. Yeah.

That's putting it very nicely. Yeah, a little nicer than they deserve. Yeah, well, if I say I think we should kill every single Nazi on Earth, it feels a little bit too much. But that is what I believe. See, it feels weird. It feels weird when you say. Instead, I say we should shoot all the Nazis into the sun

and people are like, that's charming. That's fun. Just once did a report on Nancy Wake, who was like a very anti-Nazi in World War II, killed a lot of them. And what was her quote? The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. Dead Nazi, yeah.

She's a fucking cool lady. Yeah. She knows what's up. Yeah, she gets a get the son. Get the son. So they are big advocates of sex positive feminism and GMOs. Okay. They are allied with Monsanto, which is strange.

Because you think of Monsanto and you think, well, they're evil. They fuck over farmers and, you know, aren't great, are bad people. But GMOs, anything GMO, they absolutely love because genetically modified. They love genetically modified. Okay. In 2003, they claimed that they... had successfully cloned a child or cloned a baby, but I cannot find any evidence that this is, in fact, true.

But Ben, they said it. In fact, it has been discounted as incorrect. But they said it? Yeah, I know. They say a lot of shit, a lot of stuff to just like manufacture some controversies over time. And that's just get people talking about them. It's really funny. And here we are.

They kind of like, yeah, we cloned a baby. No, like, no, you didn't. No, honestly, we did. It was very beautiful. We cloned the babies. We did it. Talk about that. No, we don't want to talk about it.

How come you do not want to talk about that? We cloned the baby. Through there, they've got a cloning company called Clownade, which has not done anything. So, so far as I can understand. They're raising money for poor clones. Yeah, Clonade. Every time I cloned.

clap my fingers. A child is not cloned. Stop fucking clapping then. Apologies to a handful of comedians who all say that that is their bit. What else? What else is there that's fun? According to the book Matreya,

which is what Rayal is called in sort of Asian countries, Etreya, which is another word for I believe Buddha. It's what Buddha, people you call young Buddha or something. I don't know. Apologies if that's incorrect. There's something Buddhist about that word.

Love involves experiencing different varieties and possibilities that allow one to break habits in order to make life more pleasant and interesting. And that is the only thing that can stop war and injustice that persists in today's world. Rayleans believe in the right to form new religions or new political parties as long as they do not promote violence as individualists.

Raylians believe that the one who gives the order to harm others is less at fault than the one who executes it. Which I don't necessarily believe in. Yeah, sort of the leader being like, it's not me. I only ordered people to kill. I didn't do it. Yeah. Usually it is often...

Rayllians say they... The other way around. They encourage adult, homosexual, bisexual, and heterosexual relationships, and that society should recognize them legally. However, government authorities, such as those in Switzerland, fear that Raylians are threat to public morals. So there you go. I don't know who I'm on side of that one.

So they're allies. They're allies. They're big-time allies. Okay. Susan J. Palmer wrote in 1991, She's a French journalist who went to a Raylian seminar and taped couples having sexual intercourse intense. These tapes gained widespread publicity with news stories

describing these practices as perverted and a form of brainwashing. So hang on. She went and taped people just having sex. Intense. Yeah, she said, check out these perverts. Check them out. I filmed them for six hours. Look at what they're doing.

Look at what they're doing. Exactly. So they like to, they fuck a lot. What are they, what's another one? I'm just sort of going through all the little things that they've done and said, since 1991, Rayle's teaching on sexual intercourse have caused controversy among other religious groups. The next year, Catholic schools in Montreal, Canada, objected to a proposed condom vending machine as a contrary to their mission. In response, Rayleigh and guides gave the Catholic students 10,000 congregate. Commissioner of Catholic Schools of Montreal said they could do nothing to stop them. Around this time, Raylians dubbed the event Operation Condom.

Is that when they were yelling as they were handing them out, Operation Condom? Condon de Appraison. So I'm kind of on, I'm on the Raylion side on that one. Yeah. Get Connie's on. Wack them on, get them in. Teach kids about condoms. Yeah.

It's crazy that it's not. I think it's cool. Now, one of the main things, stop me, if you've already done this. A major practice of raelianism is sensual meditation, something that Rayall outland in his 1980 book, Le Medetetetacean Sensuale. Oh.

Which, I believe, is French for sensual meditation. Can you get a fact check on that? Yeah, I've not 100%. I don't think you should make claims that you cannot back up. Raleans are encouraged to take part in this guided meditation or visualization on a daily basis with the intent of transmitting love and telepathic links through their hair to the Elohim

and achieving harmony with infinity. In this, practitioners are often assisted in this meditation through listening to an instruction tape. Central meditation sessions also take place communally at the group's monthly meetings during which the assembled adherents sit or lie on the floor in a dimly lit room. They are then guided through.

through it by a Raylian guide speaking through a microphone. The meditation may be accompanied by new age music. Okay. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, new age music. That could be a bit of fun, a bit of meditation. And new age music. If you go to the Raylian Movement SoundCloud, you can find some of these,

some of these Raylian artist songs. Would you like me to play you one? Yes. Sensual meditation begins with a relaxing exercise known as harmonization with infinite, or harmonization with the infinite. One stage of this process is oxygenation, which entails deep breathing. Practitioners are taught to relax and then envision themselves expanding their frame of reference until the self becomes only a tiny speck within the universe.

they are then tasked with visualizing the bones and organs of the bodies and ultimately the atoms within the body themselves. The guided meditation, they encourage the meditators to imagine themselves being on the Elohims planet and communicating telepathically with these aliens. So there you go. Wow. Do you want to listen to some more?

I can turn up. Are they all that literal lyrics? Shut up. Shut up. Anyway, that's, so there you go. Yeah, very little lyrics, as he's saying Dave. It does feel a bit like it's either aimed at children or it's just, because I, my partner is someone who just sings what he's doing.

And it feels a bit like that kind of, that there's not always a great rhyme in there, but he's just singing what he's doing. That had that kind of feel to me as well. I remember me about the Rayleigh and Wiggles. Yeah, it did, yeah. Come on, everybody. Meditate with me.

So the journalist Palmer, who filmed everyone fucking. Sorry, she filmed a bunch of perves. She pervert. She perved on the perves. Who perves on the perves? The perver perv. Palmer found that Raylans

variingly described a sense of physical well-being psychic abilities or sexual arousal during these meditations and interpreted these as evidence that they were in telepathic contact with the Elohim. The goal of sensual meditation is to achieve a cosmic orgasm, which I've always made people cosmically orgasm, that's what they tell me, you know. Yeah, it's the only way to do it. They definitely tell me, yeah.

Which is characterized as the ultimate experience a person can have, Palmer quoted one senior Raylian as describing the cosmic orgasm as the sensual experience of the unity between the self and the universe. Wow. So does it tingle or something? I guess so. Okay. I guess so.

It's not really, it's not the most, like, relatable explanation of it, you know? I had a girlfriend that told me that she would fake all her cosmic orgasms, which is brutal. Yeah, I'm sorry. I was like, why did you tell me that? Now I've got a complex about it. I can make it wrong, but not cosmically. Not cosmically. I mean, that's setting the bar too high.

I'm 36. I can't do that stuff anymore. So, yeah, so that gives you, that's kind of what they do. They have a big, they always have a little bit of a summit called, I believe, the happiness, something about happiness, something, happiness time. They always have a summit.

They had a big one in Las Vegas, one in Buffalo, New York. So they get together and they have some stuff. Sounds fun. Yeah, all of them come around

from around the world and have a big Rayleigh and fuck fest. Love that. They love sex. That's, I don't know how much. Did you guys realize this? I think you touched on it a bit.

Yeah. So they do seem to like it, don't they? They love it. They absolutely love it. Whereas Dave, still waiting to find the right person. That's right. Still wanting to find the right cult member. Take me in. These people love sex with everyone but me, it seems.

So, still looking. That's all right. That's all right, buddy. Yeah, it's okay. Even the Raylians are like, yeah, maybe try something else. Maybe, yeah. The Bible is right for you.

Yeah. Brutal. Yeah. You stay, no, don't worry about railism. I worry about it. Great. Thanks for your audition will be in touch. And they never called.

Yeah. Yeah. So like, just like improv, there are structures and it's like it's a tiered system of alienism. Hmm. So you got like level zero and then further and further. How do you progress? Let me...

Just a number of orgasms? Let me read some more from Catherine Palmer. The structure is divided along a six-tiered system. Rael is, of course, at the top of the Ralean Church. Of course. You can't go in mind. Can we take him down? He's the son of Yahweh, and brother of Jesus.

Oh, okay, that's difficult. So no, Dave, I don't think anybody could take that top spot. I think you just hate nepotism. God damn it. Yeah, it's absolutely bullshit. And he's also referred to as the guide of God. Senior members of the structure re-elect him to that position each seven years. Oh, wow.

It's a seven-year term. Seven-year-inch. Will you over him? Nah. Below, Raoul are the bishop guides, then the priest guides, then the animators, then the assistant animators. And finally, the probationers. Those characterized as guides are expected to be examples for the rest of the movement. For instance, by strictly adhering to the avoidance.

of alcohol, caffeine, and recreational drugs. You lost me of caffeine. Yeah. Race, gender and sexual orientation are no barrier for rising through the ranks of the group's leadership structure. However, Palmer noted that by the mid-1990s, there were few women in leadership positions within the organization. Yeah, I'd still be guessing it would be a bunch of white dudes,

but that is just because they were the best people for the job. It feels like one of the... It feels like the whole internet, you know, where they're like, come check out, we got all the babes here. And then it's just a bunch of dudes going, we're all the babes just talking about. Are you one of the babes?

Are you one of the babes? Yes, I am one of the babes. You made me so funny. Three Rayleigh and bishops sit on the Council of the Wise which monitors heresy and arranges punishment for transgressors. When they seek to punish an individual, it is usually for a seven-year excommunication. It lasts seven years because Raylians believe that it takes this long for every cell in the human body to be replaced. In more severe cases, the Council can see a demarking by which they cancel

the transmission on the cellular code, believing that this revokes the individual's hope for immortality through cloning. Oh, no, you get cancelled. Yeah, because you can't transmit to the Elohim world anymore. So that way, if you can't transmit in the Elehim world, then your data can't be saved on the Elahim computers. So they can't go, hey, we're going to clone this dude again. Pop them out, put him in a body, done.

Okay. Yeah. Well, that's only if you fuck up real bad. Yeah, you must fuck up real bad. Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know what you do, though. what do you do to fuck up? Not have sex?

Yeah, I was going to say, you reject too many people. Miss an orgasm a day or something. Be a selfish lover. Yes. Get out. Get out. You have time for that. You think we're just fucking for fun?

We're fucking for the good of all human. Fing mortality, yeah. Yeah. Members pay annual membership fees to the Raleen movement. Full members of the movement encouraged to tie 10% of their income to the organization, although this is not enforced.

This tide is then divided up with 3% going to the national branch, 7% to the international movement's central administration, and then an additional 1% to Rayelle himself. 10% of their salary. Right. And then, Dave, you'd be giving like 20 bucks a year. And then Rayal would be getting like a bit of that himself. So I don't know why they wouldn't sign me up.

In research, however, Palmer found many practitioners admitted to not paying the time. Ray Al hates those people. I was like, I should have enforced it. But I've really set the tone of being cool, but I'm not cool. I made this option. 90,000 people are giving them 10% of their wage. Imagine, or even 1% of their wage, imagine. Yeah, he'd be doing all right. According to Michel Boulet or Michel Boulet,

the former director of a railing-built museum called UFO land, the only pressure exerted on members is to attend annual Raylian seminars, which allow members convinced of Rayall's enthusiasm to voluntarily tithe. Palmer's side of Rayall, who said that more than 60% of the Raylan movement members do not tithe. Dawson College student conducted a survey

of the membership in Canada in 1991, which found that only one third of respondents tithed. So people are just in it for the sensuality. Sure. But you do, like you are pretty strongly encouraged to attend the convention once a year. Yeah. And that can be pricey, you know, airlines combination, etc. Sure there's an entry fee. Yeah, must be. The group owned a country estate in Albi France before obtaining one in Valcourt, Quebec. I believe that's where they're at in Quebec,

which is very Quebec in. As far as I'm, you know, Alistair Trumbly-Bertrull comes from Quebec, and he's one of the most sensual people, I know. Yes, and he loves to meditate that guy. He loves a meditation. I didn't realize he was wanking the whole time he's doing that podcast. Oh, yeah, that does ruin a little bit now, doesn't it?

Changes it quite a bit. Yeah. Do you want me to go on? I've got more. I've got more. I don't know how interesting it is. It's very interesting. I mean, you do as much as you would like to.

Or if there's anything else that you think is particularly interesting or funny. Okay. But if you're over it. No, no. I am fascinated by this cult. It's really, really fascinating because it's very odd but also harmless. And there's only 20,000 people. So it's like, it's a small cult.

In terms of a global cult, yeah, for sure. And do we know, do you have any idea how many ideas? Australian members there are? Because you said you knew about it from Perth, is that right? Yeah, I think I did. I'm not entirely sure. I wasn't able to sort of... Raylanism.

I'm just sort of searching for it right now. Please excuse me. Surely they have like a... I couldn't find it. Facebook pages or something. I mean, oh, I did find something here. Australia denounced as Rogue Nation by Raeal for opposing the UN Nuclear Ban Treaty.

That was in 2017. Right. So Rayal, he's still kicking. Oh, Rayl's still around, yeah, yeah. In fact, there's a doco that I tried to get my hands on. It's done a couple of rounds at film festivals, but it's going to be coming out soon about Rayalianism. Cool. It looks really interesting.

And Rayelianists are also suing the documentarian. Of course. So. Oh. So I'm really eager to watch that. It looks kind of cool. Yeah, so that's really the only mention of Australia that I could find anymore, which was disappointing,

because I would love Australian-Ralianists. Come on out. Yeah. Show yourselves. Set the record straight. Women comprised only a third of the membership of the Ralean Church. In 1998, Raelle established a new or female group within the broader movement known as the Order of Reale's Angels.

That would attract more people. I feel like it's kind of the opposite. I feel like, I mean, it was in the 90s. Charlie's Angels, maybe. He was like, I would like one of these. I would like this. Reyes and Jess. The members of which are trained to become court consorts of the Elohim.

He stated that these women would only be the only humans permitted contact with the Elohim after the latter arrived on Earth. and that they will be the only people allowed to enter Elohim's embassy. He further adds that they will serve as the Elohim's liaison with human politicians, scientists and journalists. Real stated that it was only women who could be angels because men were not feminine enough to be for the extremely gentle, delicate and sensitive Elohim.

I mean, you've got to think about it. They're only four feet. They've got liver troubles. They need the touch of a woman. Also, trans women were permitted entry. So that's nice and progressive there. Good. They are progressive.

Yeah, they are. They've got some nice vibe. They've got some good progressive things in there. Yeah, they do a lot of seminars. They hold a week-long summer seminar called the Stages of Awakening. That's pretty fun. And that's a real big sex festival. Sex fest.

Yeah. These seminars are used by reliance as an opportunity to form friendships or sexual relationships. and they wear white togas. That's fun. Toga parties. It's a fucking Toga party. Yeah. Which I love.

Yeah, love a Toga party. I love a Toga party. It's an easy costume, you know? It's so easy. You can get it off real easy. Yeah. You're comfy. They encourage gender fluidity and expression of gender.

What else they got? That's kind of, you get a good picture from them about that. And no one's killing anyone. No one's killing anyone. I like that a lot. Sorry, it was 2002 that they'd claimed that they'd cloned the first human baby. So that baby's 19 now. We clerned the baby.

Nowadays they do sort of pro-GMO activism, anti-war activism and anti-Catholic activism. Okay. They also, several railing groups in the United States have organized annual protests claiming that women should have the same legal rights to go topless in public that men enjoy without fear of arrest of indecent exposure. Okay, they really are free the nip.

Get your boobies out. Yeah. Let me see your boobies. That's essentially what it is, isn't it? Yeah. Hmm. Okay. Yeah.

What else do they do? Anything else? I think that's pretty much it. They've written a book, yes to human cloning in 2001. Who's writing those books? Do they all have an input, obviously, all 20,000 of them? them have a look at the drafts and say, I'm just going to make some notes. Yeah.

It has been estimated the group received a free publicity, free publicity about launching clone aid worth $500 million. So there you go, whatever that means. Why is that because people wrote about them? They love free publicity. Wow. In fact, Palmer, the journalist said that the Raylian movement was involved in concocting, then carefully monitoring a mild level of cultural conflict

to generate publicity for the group. Right. Yeah. So maybe having like the... Eddie publicity is good publicity. Having the swast sticker and the star of David together, maybe that is one of those things that gets a lot of attention. It does catch your eye, even if not for the right reasons.

Yeah, he feels like it is just him going, what sort of crazy thing can I say next? Yeah, yeah. So that people will come in and look at, this and, you know, the more word that gets out about the Iranians, the more people are going to look at it. And the more people are like, hey, I like to fuck a lot as well. And this is a fun story.

It's basically just a giant swingers party. Yeah, with a, you know, a couple of alien stories thrown in there. Yeah. It's a very organized swingers community. And they love to have swingers seminars, you know, every so often around the country, around the world, sorry. So I think it's cool and I'm going to be, I'm going to be signing out. So it appeals to you, Ben.

You reckon it's your kind of jam. No, nah. Is it just because you don't want to give 10% of your income? Yes. 10 million? That's the main reason. It's so, the, it's funny because it's so like, I want to say like hack. It's so kind of hack science fiction.

it's so old and tired the story. And it's just him going, yeah, this was actually a spaceship around the Bible for those sorts of stuff. I can't. Yeah, it feels like a year eight like doing like a creative writing story. And they were like, oh, based it on the Bible. Yeah, it's actually, that was actually aliens. And every time someone's got a question, alien, alien, alien, submarine, alien, rocket ship.

Yeah. There has been compelling evidence to support the view that Raelle has taken concepts and often paraphrased full paragraphs from other UFO and ancient astronaut authors of the 1950s, 60s and 70s, such as Jean Sendi, Brinsley Le Poe, Brinsley Le Poure tensch and Robert Charou. And he also, the philosophy, the Raleian philosophy, is, closely matched to Osho, who is a guru. Right, so he's just

doing a, you know, a bit of pick and choosing. Oshow was the Orange Man. He did the Orange Man cult. Oh, what's the Orange Man? Oh. You know, the Orange Man cult, the wild people, wild at heart or whatever

that docker was. He's the one that they built that big like settlement in the US. And he had all those orange people and they all had sex as well. It was the biggest kind of weird sex cult that then got super weird and fucked up. You got to balance the weird right when you're creating a sex cult. Got to get just the right amount of weird.

The, what are they called again? That's such a crazy car. It did feel a lot like the orange people. You know, the orange people? No, I can't say, I don't know. I don't think I do. Well, I'll get you back on to talk about the orange people. Neo-Sianists.

Oh, they do like, there's this a documentary. I just searched Oshodocco. And it's Wild Wild Country. Oshodoco. Oshodoco. Oshodoco. The Wild World Country is on Netflix. Such a great documentary series.

If you are fascinated by cults, check this out because it starts, like it doesn't start normal, but it starts sort of hard. harmless enough and then slowly just it just goes into madness. It's a great story. And it does definitely smack of Raleanism and the Rangliness movement, except they never built a big city out in the middle of fucking nowhere in the U.S.

But I know some people who were Sayanists or whatever they call. I know some people who their parents were orange people. Really? Yeah, it was big. They had a movement in Australia. Ah. It's very interesting. And the way that people do get kind of caught up

or end up joining cults and stuff is always very interesting too. Yeah. And just what it does to people as well, like the sort of offspring of those cultists. Like, what's his face? WikiLeaks man. Assange.

Assange was a part of the family. Oh. Which is a Victorian cult that was all into LSD. Was he? Yeah, they did LSD out in the bush. Right. Was the family? Because I haven't looked into that one much, but I've heard of it.

Was that, were they fucked? I think they were a little bit fucked, but on the scale, they were more raelianism, on the railism slider of things. But I don't know that for sure. I think they were pretty fucked up, though. Like psychological kind of stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is a lot of fun, railyism and just, yeah, that's bloody fun.

Dave, isn't that fun? I'm going to say, I think it's the best title for a cult or religious movement that I've heard. The fact that he's... Raylanism. Taking the word alien. Yeah, we'll make that. We'll call it that Raylan. Oralian.

No, these are not aliens, they're railions. God. It's very different. Different. He's so good that guy. We had, when I grew up in Perth, we had... had a big Brethren. Oh, yes.

...population that lived in the northern suburbs. So we'd always see Brethren around. And the brethren always wore, like, denim skirts and had really long hair with a flower in it and button up, like, office shirts. Kind of like they were, like, Australian Amish. Okay. Yeah. So that was kind of cool.

I just, I like fringe. People just get so caught up in it. It's that power of wanting to be a... part of a community, I think has a real strong draw. How addictive that can be. Yeah, when you feel like you're a part of something, especially, say, like, you know, with those bigger ones, you feel like you're actually changing the world. And even with Raylanism, they have this, they convince you that they are more enlightened,

that they know something that the rest of the world doesn't. Yeah. And then if you join it, you're in on this little secret that no one knows. it's very similar. I mean, it's exactly the same, actually, to QAnon and how they operate and why that is more cult than conspiracy because they are of this belief that this exists

and they're the only ones that know it and you guys won't even understand. The media will say that we're crazy when in fact we are the only sane ones. And yeah, it just isolates you off from the real world so this community is your only thing the only people that understand you and get you. And I'm fascinated.

I just find that whole, because I am such a cynical piece of shit sometimes. I feel almost envious that people can have that belief without question. That's why I'm envious of most people that are religious, that you can just accept that, you know, there is a big man in the cloud and he is, he loves you, but he's also a bit of a cunt. He also will give children bone cancer, but also if you don't love him, he will make you pay for it for all eternity. Like he's kind of this kind of petty thing, but no one talks about the pettiness.

We all talk about how he loves every one of us. Look at that river. It's beautiful. Thank you for making that. Thank you for making that. But bone cancer and children, he works in mysterious ways. There's a reason behind it. Also, I love, and this was heavily, like, the Hug the Sun was very influenced by the sort of Catholic teachings. My favorite story is the Sodom and Gomorrah story

when poor lot and his wife are running away from this city that's being just, like, people are getting massacred by angels in this city. And God's like, don't fucking look around if you do. And then his wife goes, what? And looks around at this place that she's, She grew up and lived all her life and met her husband, has all her memories. She looked back at it and he's like, I'd fucking told you. Sittler or stop?

Like, awful, an awful person. God's an awful person. But anyway, that's my own belief. That God is, but the Raleans, they're cool. They're cool. Totally. Yeah. Well, I mean, they don't, they just believe that. we are an experiment gone wrong.

So I can understand why the people say that it's atheism for religious people. Because there's no divine. It's all just science. It's all just waved away but science. But it is complete nonsense. Yeah, but then who created those aliens that created us? Whoa. Whoa, dude.

That's a good question, Dave. You just blew this fucking whole thing wide open. There's probably a god, but he just hangs out over in their planet. Yeah. I wonder if he is a mean, petty and childish god like ours. Well, it gives them all living. I'm imagining more of like a big Lebowski kind of vibe. Yeah.

Well, at least Buddhism is just all about keeping poor people poor and being happy with being poor. That's why I like that. Buddhism's fun because it's like, hey, you're poor? Stay that way. Anyway, I can talk about this sort of shit forever. Is there many other things that you based, hug the sun on? You said there's a bit of Catholic Catholicism in there.

Is there other teachings and things? It's a lot of Catholicism. It's based heavily, we're inspired heavily from a real-life television show that was shot in Perth in the 80s called Sing Me a Rainbow. Oh, okay. And it was like a kids' variety TV show

with super heavy Catholic overtones. All right. So we kind of, we watched that and we're like, what if we did this with a fake religion? Yeah, yeah, awesome. A sun worshiping religion. Because the only, you know, I said it before, but the only thing between, you know, Scientology, oh, that's crazy.

You know, Mormonism is a religion, though. The only thing that differentiates between, you know, Mormonism, Scientology, and Catholicism is time. It's just the time we've all had a chance to just let it go, let it do its thing. Now Catholicism's not crazy, even though it's absolutely insane. But, so I was, I'm obsessed with that. I love, I love that concept and I loved how we kind of just forget things.

Yeah, you're just like, well, like. As humans, we just kind of be like, we're just like, yeah, we'll reset. We'll reset after, you know, sure there was a big war against Nazis in the 40s. But now, they're coming back because we've somehow forgotten, you know, that Nazis are awful. I don't know. I like that. I don't know. I don't know. We're on.

I have nothing else to say. Well, Ben, thank you so much. I go off on tangents. I'm sorry. I'm ADHD. Honestly, we appreciate it so much you coming on and sharing your enthusiasm for cults because we share it to...

Yes, and I do apologize. If viewers are religious, I apologize. I think that you're doing a great job. and I like the right to worship and I respect your right to believe. I just think that it's nonsense, which is fine. That is fine.

That's okay. You can think that me thinking that it's nonsense is nonsense and I respect your belief. There you go, covered your eyes. Yep. So Ben, again, thank you so much for telling us about Raylians. And if people want to experience your cult and hug the sun with you, one more time, where's the best place for people to check that out?

The YouTubeans. You ever heard of this? YouTubeians. Yeah, the YouTubersans. Go to www.w-w-W-W-U-T-O-C-com and then type into that search board, bar, bar. Search-ball. Sorry.

Grouse House, G-R-O-U-S-E, and then House, exactly how it sounds, which is not with a W, it's with a U, and then an S and then an E. So you've tricked me into spelling it. You're very clever listener. Well done. Awesome. Grousehouse and there's all the episodes released so far

on that YouTube and's channel. It's really, really funny, and I'm sure a lot of our listeners will recognize a lot of people from Melbourne and Australian comedy also joining you and Xavier on the show. Yes, and we've got a puppet in it, which looks a lot like Dave. Well, have you ever enough that Dave could sue? Yeah, I think so.

I think he's definitely got grounds. The art department just had four photos with me. Yeah, we just gave him four photos of you. You've definitely got grounds to Sue us for IP. Well, I was going to actually offer if you get a second season, if you want to bring that puppet to life, I will come on down. Okay. There we go. Now we're talking.

David's always hustling for gigs. Always. Hey. Hey, you got yourself a deal. You drive a hard bargain. Thank you so much. I won't see you if you cast me. Deal.

Give me a job and I'm happy. Ben, I'll see you if you do cast me. I'm going to cast you. Thank you. But thank you for coming on. We love you. Thank you so much for having me. I love the pod and I love you guys.

And I was, you know, I hear so much about how beautiful and amazing your listeners are. They are. They're the greatest listeners of all. I've also got a podcast. Oh, yes. And I just give that a quick podcast. You've got the grub. We've got the grub.

That's it. You know, that's all that you need to worry about that one. It's just a sketch comedy show that is done weekly. We've got a Patreon. We release monthly or bi-monthly for a free. episodes. There's so much on there. Check it out and sort for free already. So it's got Greg Larson and Anne Edmonds. And it's real, real stupid. It's so funny. If you want smart comedy, go somewhere else. Because it is the stupidest comedy that you will ever listen to. I promise you that. That's my guarantee.

But it's a bit of fun. Yeah, it is a bit of fun. So go check them out. Well, and then there were two. just Jess and I here to steer you through the everybody's favorite section of the show, which I believe has a jingle that goes a little bit like this. Fact quote or question. Ding! Oh, sorry, just a, ding. No. No.

Ding. There it is. Better. Got it. Now, this, of course, is our Patreon section of the show, where we like to shout out to pay homage, if you will, to some of our fantastic Patreon supporters. And if you'd like to join them,

you can go to patreon.com slash do go on pod. And in exchange for yourself supporting the show, help keeping us going after all these years. In exchange for that, we will give you a lot of bonus rewards. And there's different tiers, but you can get amongst other things three bonus episodes a month that no one else hears, plus access to the back catalogue of bonus episodes,

which is now about 110 plus. So many. So many. Lots of mini reports, lots of quizzes, A few episodes of phrasing the bar, our Dungeons and the Dragons spin-off show, all sorts of things in there, as well as tickets to shows before anyone else hears about them. You get to be in a Facebook group, which is a lovely community. Honestly, the only reason I'm still on Facebook.

And yeah, you also get shout-outs and stuff. But the fact-quoted question, this is for people on the Sydney-Shineberg-Delux Memorial Rest in Peace Edition, one of our top tiers. And these people get to give themselves a title as well as, send us a fact, a quote or a question that we go through on the show. And I'm going to go through four of those with Jess now. I haven't read these. Jess hasn't read these.

So let's just see how it goes. Here we go. All right. Our first fact, quote, a questioner this week is Austin Horst. Thank you so much. Austin. Horst. Who's given themselves the nickname,

something witty and creative that definitely references a previous episode. I'm laughing knowingly, which I think is the type of laugh I would give it if it was a witty reference to a past episode. Oh, very good, very good. Oh, I get it. Which is funny because I probably would have. No, honestly, it would be us going, what? And then going, oh, okay, I think I get it because we are very forgetful people.

But Austin. I'd be saying I assume that's something we've said. Love it. But I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Austin's given us a question this week, Jess. Great.

The question is this. Hi, guys. Hope you're well. Thank you so much. Thank you. We're okay. Last time I asked each of you what your favorite ever live show was, was either music, comedy, etc.

Live entertainment was one of the things that I missed most in the year that was 2020. Matt graciously answered my question saying that his favorite was probably seeing cold chisel. In brackets, can't thank you enough, Matt, by the way, for introducing them to me by a listen now. Of course, Matt's other podcasts. Unfortunately, Dave and Jess weren't with him that day, and he suggested I ask again to give them a chance to answer. Oh, my God.

This is perfect because Matt's not here. This is good. And it's just us. So you'll get all three answers. And I will start off just by saying Austin's done what we love here and answered his own question. As I said last time, my favourite show, I've been to definitely has to be the foo fighters

with ZZ-Z-TOP coming in at a close second. Keep up the great work. Oh, it is a bit tough. I'll talk about a few, actually. I often say the best gig I've ever seen was maybe surprisingly Coldplay. I feel like Coldplay have become one of those bands where people sort of like to mock them a little bit. They're kind of...

They're not very cool to like. What was your favourite song? Mine's a scientist. Well, who could forget that I've also seen Coldplay Live and they have to put on a fantastic show. They spend millions of dollars on their live show. Yeah. There's like confetti.

There's giant balls. There's like bubbles. There's an amazing light show. They play on multiple stages. And the show at the time I saw them, Shane Warn came out and played harmonica. And no other band gets that. No, you don't get Shane Worn.

So, yeah, that was definitely one of the, it was probably one of the biggest, like it was an arena show and a big budget. arena show for that as well. So they'd be up there. But on the complete opposite end of the scale, it's no secret that Paul Kelly is, I would say my all-time favorite musician.

And when I was in Edinburgh in 2016, I bumped into a comedian from Melbourne who I'd been hanging out with a lot at the festival, Sonia DiOrio. And I was like, oh, what are you up to? What are you watching tonight? And she was like, oh, I'm going to go see this show. And then I've got a ticket to Paul

Kelly later and I was like, Paul Kelly. And I thought like that must have been a comedian who shares the name or, you know. Yeah, probably an English person, yeah. Yeah. And she was like, no, no, no. Like Paul Kelly's here. He's doing a gig in the Spiegel tent.

So I got a ticket. It was 15 pound. That's so cheap. It was so cheap. And then I saw Paul Kelly and it was just him on stage for like 90% of it. He brought out his nephew Dan to do a couple of songs with him. But it was just. You asked Paul Kelly in the Spiegel tent in Edinburgh, and I was like, what is happening?

This is the best. And he didn't expect it. That's amazing. Yeah, I didn't know he was in the country. If I knew, I would have 100% already had tickets, but I managed to get one and see him, and it was absolutely awesome. And then saw him a few years later in Brisbane with like full band and it was absolutely epic as well. That was one of the best nights of my life, seeing him in Brisbane. So I'd say

Cole Play and Paul Kelly, but I've been very lucky to see some pretty great stuff. What about you, Duff? Love that. Well, for me, it's also like a memory-based one because it meant so much to me at the time. So when I was only 15 years old, my favourite band, and still one of my favourite all-time bands, Death Cab for Cutie came out, but they only played an 18-plus show. And what I did was I got my sister's friend's ID and he had the same haircut as I did. A bit of an email fringe type thing going on. And despite being 15 and I look very young at 15. You still do.

Yeah. So at 15 you probably looked about eight. Seriously. It's like it's a, and I went with two of my sisters' friends that I hadn't met before, but she said, oh, they're going, you can go with them. We caught the train in. We lined up at the forum theatre. And I knew that if I got knocked back, they were just going to go in.

And then I was just going to have to like go home. of my own or whatever and I was like freaking out felt so sick and the guy just looks at my AD and goes yep sure go in and I'm just like yes it was so great and yeah they were really awesome and the forum is my favorite Melbourne venue so favorite band at my favorite venue playing when I'm 15 and not supposed to be there that's my favorite one yeah and I still have and I'm I wear it as pajamas now around the house but I still have and I'm showing Jess over Zoom the jumper that I bought at that gig 15 years ago. And it just happened to be right next to you.

Yeah, I've got it right. Yeah, in case I got cold on this recording. Yeah, that's great. Another one that I think of a bit too is when you, me and Matt, went to see Father John Misty. Oh, that was great. And he was playing at the Melbourne Recital Center. That was already a great gig.

I've seen Father John like three times. That was an amazing gig. Melbourne Recital Centre is obviously designed for music so the acoustics are gorgeous. A multi, multi-million dollar performance space, yeah. Yeah, it's beautiful. So it's not like, they're not like a stadium design for soccer or football. It's like for music, which is awesome.

It's gorgeous. And so that was already a great gig. I think that was the first time I'd seen him live. But supporting him was this, at the time, unknown up and comer. It was just her on the stage of the guitar. and I remember like making a note of her name because her voice was so beautiful and I got home. I'm Googling Angie McMahon. I'm trying to find the song that she was singing that really caught my attention.

And it wasn't released. It wasn't anywhere yet. And then, you know, a few months later, it's popping up on Triple J. And she's gone on to have this huge career. She's doing really great things. She's toured all over the world. But just, I just happened to see her and, and connect with her voice and with one song,

and now she's also one of my all-time favorites. So that was pretty cool, too. That is really cool. What a great question. Great question. Thank you so, so much, Austin. We love that. I also saw, just as a side note,

I also saw the foo fighters once a long time ago, but probably my favourite part of the gig was the opening act was Tenacious D, Jack Black and Carl Gass. And I love them, so that was awesome. That'd be so good. Because they are famously friends with Dave Grohl and the guy, so it was cool that they just brought them along for the gig. That's great. So that was awesome.

Thanks, Austin. All right. Our next fact, Quetta questioner is Jeremy Swade. What a name. That's so smooth. That's so good. Jeremy Swade. Love that.

What are we looking at here? I'm zoomed in too much. I've zoomed in too much on our little document. What did she got here? Jeremy Swade's nickname as well as I was looking for. And it is executive do go on. ambassador to the golden state of California. Oh, wow, an important job.

Love that. Great state. We have actually a fact from Jeremy Swate, and it looks like it is a Californian fact. Makes sense. Okay. The fact is, you tell me whether this is fun or not. California is home to the largest tree in the world.

Its name is... Oh, that's fun. And it has a name. The name is general... I'm already calling it. I jumped in too soon. General Sherman. It is...

I know what I grew up. Jess is laughing here. It's 2200 years old and it lives in Sequoia National Park. It's nearly 275 feet or nearly 84 metres tall and has a circumference of 102 feet or 31 metres. Shit, how old was it? 2,200 years old.

Get the fuck out. That's not how. Yeah. That's amazing. Do trees just live forever? If we leave them alone, do they just live forever? Why am I imagining trees have like, have like a lifespan?

Well, I think a lot of them do. And then they just fall over, right? A lot of them do. Okay. That's wild. That is an incredibly fun fact. Love that. There's a picture of it, too, if you want to look it up.

It's, it's a big, big boy. That's a fantastic fact. Thank you so much for sharing that with us. That is right at my alley. That's fun. Love that. Thanks, Jeremy Swade. Keep it up.

California, I'll be there one day. Another person I believe is who was residing in California, is our next fact quota question of who we have met before, and that is Nesta Kiharo. Nestor. Thanks, Nestor. But that's not your nickname this week, according to yourself. It is designated person on deciding strange facts.

Okay. Oh, okay. Okay, great. Because that doesn't feel like my forte. I can't do strange. Yeah, so you're fun. Matt's grim. I think I'm dull and maybe now Nesta is strange. Strange.

Why didn't I get strange? Yeah, you could give yourself something else if you don't want to do dull facts, lame ones, but it's up to you. All right, we've got a question from Nester though. First of all, I feel like we don't ask this enough, but how are all of you? There is another question coming up. But just quickly, we're doing pretty good for personal context.

Melbourne has gone into at least a week-long lockdown after the re-emergence of the virus here. So we're all bunkering down and hoping to get on top of it before it spreads any further. Yeah, I got back into the state just in time. Yeah. Before lockdown. I had a nice holiday and rushed back over the border

before lockdown started. And I, you know, we're recording this on a friday. I had the weekend off to attend a good friend's wedding, which will not be going ahead. So, to be quite honest, as to feeling flat for a bunch of reasons. But Melbourne's done this many, many times, as have so many other parts of the world.

So we're not complaining, but, you know, it's just, we're weary. Yes, that's right. That's right. But hopefully... I got a cute dog. I bought some Lego. I'm going to play the Sims. Everything will be fine.

Oh, that's fun. What Lego did you get? Well, I wanted to get like a drive. Jurassic World one where you made a little, you made like a little Jeep kind of car and then I could go brum-brum-brum. Yeah, awesome. But Aiden was like, let's just get this pack and then we can be more creative because you can make whatever you want. So we just got some like generic Lego, which is still fun and it has a little book in it so it still has, I can still follow some instructions, which calms my anxious brain.

Love that. That's a bit of a win-win. But, you know, if we enjoy this, I'm getting the Jurassic World little Jeep. Yeah, that sounds like a good one. I'm with you. I support that all the way. All right, we actually have a follow-up question from Nestor, which is, here's my question.

If you could replace any single arm or leg with a bionic one, which would you replace, why would you replace it, and what cool things would it do? And he's also answered it. So you can only have one though. Oh, great. It's an arm or leg, so I'll read this out what you think about your answer. To answer my own question, mine would be my left arm.

I'd like to look like Buckees, from the Marvel movies. Do you know who's Bucky? Yeah, Bucky's a winter soldier. Oh, okay, great, great. Bucky Barnes. He is Captain America's best friend. And, you know, spoilers.

He starts off as a bad guy because he's been brainwashed and then has a bit of a knock to the head. Oh, he's a good guy again. Oh, okay. Thank you for that. He's cool, and his arm is pretty sick. Yeah, Nessa says it's a cool design.

I'd like for it to do all the cool bionic arm stuff like Super Strength, shoot a grappling hook, pick door locks and hack security stuff. But its most important feature would be to extend just a few inches to scratch the spot in the middle of my back that's always just a bit out of reach. Cheers to y'all. Hope to see you in the state soon for the worldwide. Do go on to her.

You are speaking my language, my friend. Yes. Just extend a little bit. I don't want to show off here. But I think that I have either unusually long arms or something because I can cover, there's no part of my back I can't cover. You've never needed somebody else to scratch you back for you. No, I can even sunscreen my own back.

That's crazy. I mean, I can't really show you. You don't need anybody else. That's right, exactly. I'm happy as I am on my own. That being said, if I could replace one of these limbs with a bionic one, it would be my left leg. And then just so I could do surprising things like,

people wouldn't expect me to be able to kick the ball really far or something, but like I'll kick it like the length of me in, like two football fields. Or like if we're doing triple jump, the hop, the step and the jump, the hop at the start, people would be like, holy shit! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically, it's athletics. Do our bionic limbs still look like, like, can people tell it's a bionic limb? Does that make sense?

I want it to, like, I want my legs to just look the same as they are now. because I think I want to go leg as well. I was going to say right arm. And now I'm thinking right leg, the reason being I am left footed and I don't want to be kicking the footy with friends and accidentally kick it into space. That's exactly what I do want to do. That's what I want to do.

Yeah, but I'll have a right leg, please, so I can jump very high. No, no, no, no, no, right arm. I want right arm. Change my mind. And what are you doing with that right arm? I want like strength and I want to be able to like hold on to a van at high speeds and just be dangling there. Can't do that have a leg.

No. If you can't. If you can, something's gone horribly wrong. You're gripping on with your toes. Yeah, exactly right. So I'm going to say right arm, please. I don't want to have to re-learn how to write with my left hand, my new bionic hand. Right arm, please.

Lock it in. Great answer. I love it. Thanks, Nestor. And Fada one is from Jai. Smith, dry his nickname here is hid of bid unsense. Hid.

Of bid a sense. Hold on. Does that, is that supposed to sound like something and I sound foolish? Is that what the joke is here? Hid of bid. It's going to be head of bed. I don't know what the last place is.

Is there a giveaway in the question? Okay, good one, good one, good one. Question. Hailing from Sydney, there is a clear discernible American-ish accent from inner-city Melbourne people, including your podcast friends, specifically Adam Kanavalet and Joel Zamet. But also with Caspage to a less degree and Joel Dusha slides in and out. Okay, so it's a sanspans accent. In brackets, I heard it was weird.

Funnily enough, the three of you don't have it. My question is, am I crazy? Does this exist? Do you hear it? No, I hear a Sydney accent being a Melbourneian who lives with a New South Welshman, and I hear it in my New South Wales colleagues. I wish there were some examples here. I know you probably can give us a couple from the other way around,

but from the sans-span people, sandspans people, I wonder what American-ish stuff they're doing. Yeah, yeah, okay, might be hard at ours and stuff like that every now and then. You can hear that sometimes. Right. Australia doesn't have a huge range of accents. It's pretty subtle, nuanced things that can indicate where somebody is from. Western Australia and South Australia is more of the Queens English, so it's dance and France and stuff like that,

whereas in the east we tend to say dance and France. But what I hear in New South Wales is, and it's very subtle, but in words that have like an EA, they really pronounce the A, so ideal, meal, stuff like that. It's subtle and it's not, I'm exaggerating a little bit to sort of give an example, but I hear it a lot and I'm like, wow. Whereas I think we say it a bit flatter. It's not ideal.

They'd say ideal, ideal. All right, okay. Yeah. How interesting. I must say I have not noticed it with the Sandspans people. No, me either. But now we'll have to look out for it. It must be a Sandspan's.

accent. Bunch of freaks. Yeah. Too funny. Weirdos. Thanks, Dry. A pack of weirdos. Maybe other people have heard it and they can get in contact with us.

On our Twitter or something, let us know. Is Jai crazy? Is this question? Does this exist? Does that make me crazy? That's Jai. I don't know, Jai. But thank you for your question, Jai.

Appreciate it. Thanks to all those beautiful people. Now it's time to shout out to even more beautiful. people that support us on Patreon at patreon.com slash do go on pod. These people have been waiting patiently for a shout-out. And we usually come up with a little game. Your thing, Jess, is to come up with something to do with the episode. Obviously, it was cult-ish, that we could shout out and assign these people.

We are naming their cults. Love it. Great good stuff. Easy. And none of these cults, just to preface it, none of them result in anybody being assaulted, injured, killed. Right. Nothing.

Do they all involve lots? These are all nice cults. Lots and lots of consensual group sex. Not all of them, no. Oh, okay. Interesting. First I've ever heard of. Yeah, but I will tell you which ones will.

Fantastic. It's most. Most, but not all. It is most, but not all, but it is most. To be fair. Yeah, to be fair, that's right. We're batting at a 99.99% here, but there are some that aren't. Do you mind if I kick off with some names?

Please. I would love to thank from Gothenburg or Gauterborg in Sweden, which is very, very cool to have your support all the way from over there. Mikhail Medan. Macaul Medinians. Oh, the Medinians. That sounds more like something I joined. than Raylands.

Yeah, the Medinians, really, their key things are studying geography, making cups of tea and heaps of consensual sex. Yes, they are one of sex. Yeah, all. Warm up with a bit of map reading. We'll name some capital cities. Yeah, have a cupper. El Gray, and then bang, close off.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Perfect. Thanks, Mikel. I would also like to thank now from, Burbank in California, Cameron Monaghan. What about... Cameron Monaghan.

The Cam Cam, thank you, fam. Oh, that's great. Cameron also has the same spelling of Monaghan as my family. So I think Cameron is my cousin. Oh, okay. So I will not be partaking in the consensual sex. Right. Of the Cam Cam, Thank you, fam.

You want to keep it in the Cam Cam Cam Cam, but on the real fam. Exactly. Exactly right. And yeah, so they are, again, consensual sex, a big part of it. No, it's like a medium part of it. It's not the main thing, but it's a bonus. They are in two, protein smoothies.

Oh, wow, all right. Powerlifting. Wow, a little strong colt. Hand cream. That's right. They make it, they sell it, they use it. That's right. So one side of their hand is really soft.

The other hand is calliston ready to grip, but the other hand. Yeah. Beautiful, supple. Gorgeous, gorgeous. Thank you, Cameron. Thanks, Cam. I would like to thank now from Mississauga in Canada. Sarabi Pradden or Pradden, Sarabi Pradden.

Serabi. So there's something good in Sarabi. The... What about like... I mean, I don't want to just say Sarabians, but it's very good. Yeah, Sarabian. Sarabian. Rabi Lee. Yep.

I'll save you there, Jess. Not sure if in Canada this means something. What about Sarabi's Barbie? They have lots of barbecues. They all are. They meet outdoors, cook meat together before the inevitable group sets. Before the group sets. Intense, but nobody's allowed to film it.

No outsiders. You can if you're into it. That lady was such a person. But then call them perves. It's like, they're just having sex. Yeah, come on. You're filming it. It's not a big deal. Yeah, you're weido. Sarabi's Barbie. So they love barbecuing and they all wear not chef hats, but they all wear like hats made out of folded newspapers.

Yeah, but cool. Like they don't... Yeah, cool stuff. Like a really good, they're very good at origami, but they only make hats. And I want to stress as well that the barbecues are not like, that when people say, come over for a Barbie and you just have like plain coal sausages and like a shitty potato salad and that's it. These ones are like really nice meats, cooked well. The salads and vegetables and sides and stuff are really,

like they love good food, but it is all cooked outdoors. Gourmet, gourmet stuff. Yeah, gourmet. Obviously difficult during a Canadian winter but they are dedicated people. They figure it out. They barbecue inside a lot. in kitchens.

Oh, so yeah. Wow. Yeah. They're weird over there, aren't they? They're a bit odd, are they? Barbecue inside. Anya Sarabi, thank you so much. Next up I'd like to thank, yeah,

traveling the world at the moment, from Munster in Denmark. I would like to thank, no, not Denmark. Deutschland is the DE, I believe. Germany, yeah. Is this the Monster Rebell? Yeah, I think so. I could be wrong.

I know, I'm an idiot. No, but that would be a weird coincidence. I very much think it is. And the listener of note is Tom Quinders. Oh my God. Tom Quinders. That's a fantastic name, Tom. Congratulations on a great name.

There's something in like Quinder. Quindicind. It is a cult for children. No sex in this one. This is one of the very few without sex. That's why I said most but not all. Zero sex in this one. Thank God.

And it's especially for like a young age group. So we're talking the year three to ten. And they focus mostly on shapes, colors, numbers, basic language skills. It's a school. It's a school essentially. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's pretty fun.

That's a pretty fun cult. Hey, Tom Quinders, you're doing God's Work with the Kids over in Munster. Love that. Yeah, thank you, Tom. And finally from me, I'd like to thank from Port Macquarie here in Australia. I'd like to thank Jacob Gaskell. Jacob Gaskell. I mean, the gas killers.

Yeah, I was going to say the last name is Gas Kill written down. Gas Killers. I mean, you did say there was no violence in these cults. So is that too. It is just a name? It is just a name. Yes. What they're actually doing is they do quite a lot of research and practical testing in eliminating farts.

They are trying to kill the gas. I love it. They are, honestly, I can say that's God's work. It's a tough task, but somebody had to take it on. But it's not all they do. They do have a bit of fun. They have a series of different social clubs You can also join as well

Bowling You can play polo And then of course the mass consensual sex Of course, sorry Is that when you're signing up to something They've got the clipboard out And you're like, sorry what? No was that last one?

Yeah. Bowling? Was it you want me to repeat? Pottery? Was that the one you're interested in? Have a gander at this list, see what you think. Thank you, Jacob. for trying to kill the gas.

May I thank some people as well? Please. I would love to thank from Salt Lake City. Oh yeah. Anna Dunn. Anna Dunn. What's Anna Dunn? A bit of fun.

What? It probably doesn't have to be based off the name. Although in Salt Lake City they probably don't call toilets doneys. So we could do something with that, I guess. What about the, like the, they are the meatball subs. Oh, okay. Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City in Utah, Utah.

Give me two. To, meatball. Meatball, you want a couple of sandwiches. So these are the meatball. They call the meatball subs. And despite the name, they are. They do not have oranges ever. No, they've got enough.

They've got enough. If you haven't seen a point break, this is making absolutely no sense to you, Anna, done. But, um, baffling. Despite that, a big fan of, uh, subs,

hogies, sandwiches, Po-boys, all sorts of, uh, sandwiched hamburgers. And, um,

but that's all they eat. It is. They, yes, they only eat bread-based, uh, hand food.

Yeah. And, and, and they love Keanu Reeves. He is basically their God. And they like to do a guided meditation,

uh, which, is accompanied by a slideshow, which is just pictures of Keanu Reeves, and then mass consensual sex, yeah. Yeah, of course, of course. If that's not going to get you in the mood, I do not know what is.

Keanu has been invited, but is yet to turn up to one of the assessments. Yeah. But he will. But he will. Open invitation. Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much to Anna Dunn. Thank you, Anna.

And from an undisclosed location, probably because we've met this person, I believe, and he's been all over the place. I would love to thank Moritz Remuta Ramuta. I think Maritz Remuta is how I've always said it, but is that right? Remuta, yeah, you're probably right. I'm not sure. Meritz, we met in Sydney and where else?

Gosh, I can't. In the UK? I'm trying to report. I'm so sorry, Maritz. What about? Brisbane. Brisbane. Anyway, yes.

What about Maritz Remuter? is the leader of the Remuda Triangle. Ooh, that's very good. Sounds good. And so Maritz is one of three leaders. He's the top point of the triangle, but he has two underlings who just kind of handle admin. They're like the vice principals.

Two vice principals. You know, ones for like students, ones for admin. And, yeah, what are they kind of into? They, uh, only each. Triangle foods. Samosas. Pizza. Sandwiches cut into triangle.

Somosos, yes. Pizza. What else is? What's a triangle? Sunny boys? Those, um, those icy, uh, I mean,

you've got a whole day there. Like toast triangles for breakfast. You've got, um, somosis for lunch. And then for a dessert, you've got a sunny boy. What else do you need?

Yeah. No, and then you're going to, you're going to have cheesecake. You can have almost any cake because you do tend to cut cake into triangles. Yes, exactly, lots of cake. And then, of course, lots of sex in groups of three, the Holy Trinity. Exactly right. Exactly right.

And a pretty balanced diet there. So that's pretty impressive. Thank you. Yeah, honestly, you're ticking off a lot of the watermelon slices. There you go. Yeah, yum. From Melbourne in Victoria, someone we see a lot at our live shows, and we love to see him.

Crumbie. Ah, yes, Sam Crumpy. A great supporter of the live stuff. Thank you so much for coming to our show, Sam. I didn't realize, actually, when we met Sam, that he was a cult leader, but obviously he is. Yeah. He's not flashy about it, and that's what I like. Yeah, that's right.

Sam's cult is, of course, called the Crombie van. And they are really into, like, they tinker with old cars. Oh, okay. In a religious way. Yeah, they do them up. In a religious way. They say, thank thee the tinkerer, our Lord and Savior, for tinkering with the vehicle of life and getting under the hood.

And really, make of that baby sing. Well, Lydides, it does sound a little bit like Sam just runs a mobile or mechanic business out of his van. Is that what's going on here? No, you don't get it. No, I don't think I get it. It's essentially like a, it's, you know, it was. was born out of a support network for people who never learnt how to fix their car.

And what it became is so much more. They sure, they tinker under their car. They sing songs around bonfires and they fuck. In the back of a van. Why do you think we're doing up the van? It's my shaggin wagon. Why are they all covered in plethe? It's a bit of fun.

So thank you very much. Thanks, Sam. Thanks, Sam. Sorry about that. Sorry to all these people, by the way. So sorry. So sorry. I would love to thank from Springwood in New South Wales,

Layla Booth. Okay. Layla Booth. I'm really hoping you got something because my brain's just got nothing. Okay. They're called Ain't that the Booth. Yes.

Right? And they can, honestly, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's actually an inspired liar-liar. They can only tell the truth. Oh, that's great. That is actually good. At the end of the day, that's, yeah, but they only tell. The best. Tell the truth.

But if they tell a lie, their tell is they say, ain't that the booth? And you go, you just lied to me. You lied. You just lied. You lied. Because they're sort of, it's like, they're getting off on a technicality. They're not saying, ain't that the truth. They're saying, I'm that at the booth.

And that's the booth. Okay, well, now I know you're lying. Yeah, exactly. So once people found out, it's very difficult to lie after that. I love that. What else do they do, though? They don't lie, but they do lie down next to pools. They love to just sunbathe around the pool.

Very big on vitamins. Very big on it. They love vitamin D and they do not have sex. They don't have sex. They hate the vitamin D in other ways. Yeah, they love their vitamin D from the sun. They hate the vitamin D from men. Get out of here.

That's what they say. Get out of here, man. Sorry, Layla, if you were really desperate to be a leader of a sexy cult. But, you know, you started it. Yeah, that's right. And ain't that the boot. I'm right. Ain't that the boot.

Finally, I would love to thank. And Dave, I might need help on a bunch of these words. I'm looking ahead for you. All right, where are we from, Jess? From... From Wock again. Looks like Waukegan? Waukegan here.

In Illinois? Illinois. Waukegan, Illinois. Yes. Good stuff. I would love to thank Kelly Wacholts. I reckon Waukeholtz. Kelly Waukultz from Waukegan, Illinois.

It's a double H that often. No, I enjoy it though. It's great to see. And is there something you can do with that? Colt-wise, double H. Oh. You may have heard. I mean, her name is, we're cults.

I'm sure there's something here. There's something in it, something cult related. We cults, what cults? Oh, okay. We cults. It's called we cults. It is a charity designed to bring together all cults. Yes, great.

And raise awareness for cults. And bring about like a super... In and of itself, it is a cult. Yeah, exactly. Hey, I want to get you out of your cult and into my much larger cult. Yeah, I want to make other people aware of both your cult and my cult. And so what they do is a lot of admin, a lot of door-to-door, sort of, you know, fundraising or awareness.

And then after a long day of just charity work, they get together and they have mass consensual sex. That's right. They have a very long-listed beliefs because anything goes. They believe in everything and they also have sex. So they are both very open to people of all genders and identities, but at the same time, very conservative. That's right. It's a very confusing cult.

Everything goes here. Everything goes. What cults? You can love or hate whoever you want to. Have you hate? I also hate them. I hate them. Good on you.

So, yeah, there you go. A bit of fun, isn't it? So sorry, Kelly. Thank you so much once again to Mikhail, Cameron, Sarabi, Tom, Jacob, Anna, Maritz, Sam, Leila and Kelly. Well, with that section of the show done, there's only one thing left to do, and that's the check if anyone's coming into the Tripditch Club, which is people that have been on the shoutout level or above for three consecutive years. And looking ahead, there is a few names to induct this week.

We've got one, two, two. Three, four, five. Six. Wow. What happens is we've, we formed a little club called the Trip Ditch Club, which is basically like it's a bar, a lounge, it's a venue, a place where you can... A cult. Yes, honestly, it sounds very cold like.

Yeah. But we have drinks, we have hors d'oeuvres, we have live music this week. And Jess, who or what food will we be dining on this week? Well, what's a cult if not a club? and we're all members of that club because we're having club sandwiches. Yes, beautiful. Also triangle base, so everyone can eat those. Yes, everyone's happy.

Drinks-wise, we have an Auralian special, which is somehow, and you are not allowed to ask, it is silver. It's a silver liquid, and it is also triangular, served in a very strange triangular glass. And it does not taste good, but it will give you telepathic powers for approximately four hours.

So that's pretty rad. That sounds amazing. And whilst you have the telepathic powers, the band that will be joining us start is, of course, a alien ant farm. Of course. We will be playing such hits as Michael Jackson's Smooth Criminal and um...

Annie are you okay, you're okay, you're okay, Eddie. Just about that will be the only song they play. But honestly, we'll all know the words by the end of the night. Looking forward to them. Okay, how are we going to do this in terms of hyping each other? I think we just, I think we both just have to connect and go completely mental and just thank a bunch of people and just hype the shit out of it.

What do you reckon? Okay, let's just both hype. We're both, usually Matt reads it out, I hype, Jess, hypes me. But honestly, let's just hype, you're right. Let's just get a zone going to. I'm going to read them. You're going to, like, we're just going to go for it, okay? Okay, all right, here we go, here we go.

Welcoming, we're living the velvet rope, welcoming. And honestly, these people are in the club forever. So, Hall of Famers. From Mudgy in New South Wales, Kirsty or. Oh, Kirsty or bust, am I right? Yes, Kirsty for life. I would also like to thank from Mossman in New South Wales, Dominic O'Kelly. Dominic O'Kelly.

Mossman, more man, am I right? Yes. You are more men than we deserve Dominic O'Cooley. I'd also love to thank from Edinburgh, Tom Gray. Oh, the skies were grey before you turned up, but now they are clear blue, baby. Tom Gray's in the house. I would also love to thank from Moscow. Page McPhile.

I'm McPhile is an incredible way I'm McPhile in good Now you're here, Paige Yes Oh so good From Oslo I would love to thank Oystein Espedal

This is a tricky one Do something with Oslo I was feeling Oslo But now I'm feeling Oslo Hi Yes Thank goodness Honestly that felt like the greatest cave

And from Buffalo in New York, I would love to thank Elijah Jimerson. He's my Buffalo Soldier Elijah. Yes. Well done, Dave. Well done. Thank you so much for all those people.

Hopefully you'll be enjoying your food, your psychedelic drinks and of course the music of Alien Ant Farm tonight. You're welcome for that. Enjoy. I've just looked up Alien Ant Farm. Their discography, first album came out in 1999. It's called Greatest Hits.

That's funny. That's funny. That is pretty funny. That is good. Is that their first and only album? No, actually, because the one after that, I believe, is the one that had the Michael Jackson cover. It's called Anthology.

Okay. And they've actually had a few since 2015's, their most recent album called Always and Forever. That's nice. Good for them. But unfortunately, they will only be playing from their greatest hits first album. Confusingly enough, in 2008, they released an album called 20th Century Masters, the Millennium Collection, The Best of Alien Anthem.

Oh my God, they are baffling. Because the first album's got greatest hits. Where do you go to from there? Yeah, that's a good point. On you guys, we can't wait to have them rocking de club. But yeah, that is it for another amazing episode of Dogeo. If I may say so myself. I think that was just a bit of fun.

And of course, Matt will be joining us next week. And it'll be the first time in a few weeks that I believe that we're all together. Yeah. Yeah, hopefully. I mean... Well, hopefully anyway, yes, let's cross those fingers. Don't jinx it, you idiot. Ooh.

But yes, we'll all be on the episode. Yeah, that's right. We've had a couple of weeks where it's just been... I'm the only consistent member these days. Yeah, oh, Dave, you always have been, to be sure. That's not true. Hey, I have missed two episodes about five years ago. There was a period where I missed.

You only missed two. Yeah. Bloody hell, I'm really dropping. You guys need to take holidays. You guys need to take breaks. Damn. Remember them? Well, that would be nice.

Anyway, I'm going to go sit in my house for a week. So I'm really busy. Must go. Must go. You can find us as always on all social medias at Do Go On Pod. You can contact us at Do Go On Pod. on pod at gmail.com. And do go onpod.com is our website where you'll find

links to merch and how to suggest a topic. And that'll be in the show notes as well. Yeah, but I think that's about it. Dave, you have to say goodbye first because I have to say it last. So off you go. So thank you so much once again. And until next week, I'll say thank you for listening and goodbye. Bye.

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