Two In The Think Tank - 293 - Raëlianism, A UFO Religion (with Ben Russell)

Episode Date: June 2, 2021

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Dugo on my name is Devon Kee, and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins, hello Jess. Hello, Dave. That's great to have you here, Jess, but not we're not always joined by comedy royalty. No offense, Matt Stewart. Can you please welcome as a special guest to the show from Hug the Sun, it's Ben Russell. Thank you so much, comedy royalty. I don't know if that's... If it is, if I am part of the comedy royalty that I'm like, one of those like, dukes that nobody fucking knows about,

or can I say that? Yeah, you're a cousin. Yeah. Yeah. One of those ones that has a real job. Yeah, I've got a real job, you know. But like die hard royal fans would know who you are. That's right.

Maybe. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, those royal, royal, royal nerds. Yeah, they'd be like, how do you not know who Duke Benniss? Yeah, Duke Benniss. He's the 30th in line to the throne. Yeah. If there was some sort of fire or terrorist attack, he could very well take the top job. You just don't know. he could very well take the top job. You just don't know. He's heavily in bread. He's got a funny little walk.

And he's blind in one eye. He's got a hemophilia. What do I'm doing? Yeah, they do because they are so in bread. Yeah. Well, it's great to have a Duke of comedy here. Ben, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me, David Warnakie. Now, I think something that may take you from.

Just thanks for having me, Jess, as well. Ah, a pleasure has always been here. No, this isn't just Dave's. This isn't Dave's podcast. That's, it's not. It's your podcast as well. I can't turn up. I'm like the bad boy. Really? I'm the cool kid in the back of the class of this podcast. Who's Matt then? Our grandpa. Yeah, like some old professor that turns up.

Yeah, he's the crusty old dean. Yeah. Oh, so what are you guys talking about today? You guys smoking a bit of marijuana. Yeah, I like, I won't tell your parents, but don't bloody do it again. You would hear. He's got a large collection. Well, Ben, thank you so much for coming on the show, as I said, something that may elevate you from a Duke to possibly one rank above a Duke is the great success of your hug the sun web series that's been coming out lately. Yes, very pleased with how it's been going. People have been seeing, people have been watching, people have been saying, hey, good job. And a few people have been saying mean things in the YouTube

comments. Good luck from that. It's fine. Everything's good. comments, but apart from that, it's fine. Everything's good. I think of all places YouTube, you're gonna get main comments. Oh, yeah. I, you know, I think that's a sign of success. Yeah, you especially have left some real bad, real nasty ones. Just I don't really feel that comfortable telling you my feedback in person.

Yeah, they're not even about the show. It's just personal attacks. Yeah, I was like, trim mustard. She a dog. Oh Wash your butt. You know what you're doing. You do it. I refuse. I say little things like that. Yeah And they hurtful. I know what you live it. I'm gonna kill you stuff like that. Just bum light-hearted It's a feedback for my followed by my you know home address and A lot of docks in going at the hug the sun, YouTube comments. Yeah, big time. I've been noting down every cast member's address, so I've got a full book now. So thanks for that.

Oh, we know how you like books, Dave. Yeah. A lot of it's been much. If people haven't seen any of the series yet, Ben, can you give them a little, a little idea of what the series is about? Sure. So, it's available on YouTube at Grouse House. That's the channel's name. Grouse House, it's called Hug the Sun.

And it is an after school show, Variety Kids Variety Show, that is strongly flavored with religious overtones on a fictional religion that Xavier and I have made up. It's sun-based. They're sun-worshiping cult, basically. And it's set in the sort of early, late 80s, early 90s. And so it's kind of got this found footage restored look to it. And it's just a good fun. It's about 10 minutes, you know, they're approximately 10 minutes. I think they're always a little bit under, but it's always a good time. And it's always a bit,

a bit, I don't dare to say strange. A bit odd. Yeah, system strangeness. Would you be silly, is it? Yeah, there's definitely some silliness of it, but it's also a little bit spooky too. So, yeah, it's got some spookiness, because I am fascinated by cults. I love them. I think it's wonderful. I love the fact I love I'm fascinated by religion in general and cults especially because they're the only thing different between religion and occult is time. Sure. Yeah, yeah.

Try to be positive. Do you join occult? Would I join occult? Yeah. Well, I mean, I have done improv. So, yeah, answer that is yes. Same thing. Same thing.

You've taught improv. I've taught improv, and I've taken, I studied improv at second city, as well as I owe in Chicago town. So, I've been a part of a cult and it was pretty cool. It does what you sound like. It's, obviously, it is cult-like and that everything the leader says you have to say yes and to no matter what.

Yes and everything. Yeah. You're not allowed to say no. So yes, how dare you say no? Yeah, no, that's very. That's very leader. Yes, and everything. Yeah. Yeah. You're not allowed to say yes. How dare you say no? Yeah, no, that's very. That's very later. Yeah, you get ostracized and they turn you back on you.

But you know, and you give them lots of money as well. Fove. So it's got all the whole, it's got all the hallmarks of a cult. Well, I'm glad that you are a big fan of cult. So I feel like that may somehow thread into the report that you prepared for us. I actually don't know another dish that's what it's going to be on.

But for people that may be tuning in for the first time, what we do is we take an entrance to a report on a topic and go away, do a bit of research, bring it back to the other members of the pod and Ben, thank you so much for volunteering to go away and research something. You're welcome. I cannot guarantee the quality of my research.

Hey, neither can I. I never graduated university. Hey, I did. And look at it. I go. Most, most weeks go. Ooh. Yucky. So yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't worry about that.

Yeah. Where he to support you. Thank you. We're going to yes and you all on here. Yeah. Two months. We're gonna yes and you all on me. We're gonna have some fun. Uh-huh. And we're just gonna have a chat.

Yeah. But you learn a little bit. I'll keep it casual, you know what I mean? Great. I love that. So Jess, what's your favorite cult? Oh. Hmm.

Hmm. I kind of feel a little bit like going to a Catholic old girl school has a bit of a cult vibe, okay? Well, Catholicism is very cult-like. Yeah, Catholicism is quite cult-y, and I can say that as a non-practicing Catholic. I'm a liar, is that all it takes? Anything with a sort of central figure head

as well as a lot of mysticism and magic involved. Yeah. And of course they are in a lot of money. I mean, they own a lot of property as well as a lot of mysticism and magic involved. Yeah. And of course, they are in a lot of money. I mean, they own a lot of property as well. And, you know, they're not, they've shown themselves to not be particularly great people. They don't pay any or no tax. No tax, yeah, no tax.

So that's fun. Yeah. I'd like to learn more about, because the main cults that we've talked about, or that I've read about, or watched Ockos on, are pretty violent. You know, people are killed, and so I don't want to say, like, my favorite cult is the Jonestown massacre.

Of course, I don't want to say that. But I want to learn more about some just weird ones. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm the same sort of, I like cults and I'm fascinated by them, but also they can be quite morbid because I mean a lot of cults end up in with, at least a lot of people dying or some people dying or some people getting quite victimized in horrific ways. So Xavier wanted to do one on the AM Shinricio cult, which is a Japanese death cult. Nice and light.

Yeah, nice and light. And they did a big, they did a big terrorist attack in Japan. Oh, I like it. I was hoping it was just a name, but damn. Yeah, so I was out of, I was like, no, let's not do that. My favorite cult, I have to say, would be like, you know, heaven's gate is a great one. But again, they killed themselves with the return of Hayley Bob or Hayley Comet. But their website is still online and it still looks like it's straight out of the sort of late 80s. It's really good. It's worth a check.

Someone's still hosting it. God bless them. With the brows. Yeah. And of course, they left behind one IT guy. Yeah. Carry on. And another cult that really you guys have actually done a report on this is the branch dividends with David Kuresh and the Waco siege. An amazing story, also horrific, but fundamentally changed the way that the FBI dealt with cults in the United States and led to Timothy McVey, who in the big Oklahoma City bombings. So it was kind of a massive deal. And then there's everyone's favorite Brian Jones town. What about you Dave?

Uh, whoa. Dr. Who? Dr. Who? That's a cult classic. I don't know. I fully understand. We said there's a question. Yeah.

He makes lots of money, I assumed. Yeah, yeah. I feel like you've covered, like the one, I must say, I love it when we talk about a cult on here. I always find it fascinating, but I don't really dig into them too much myself. So I feel like the name brand ones, which are a few of the ones you've mentioned.

Other ones that I know, the only other one I can really think of is from the Simpsons, the Movimentarians, who I... Yeah. It's also a recent one which I got kind of obsessed with, which I'm not talking about, which I was almost going to do is this orgasm cult that happened in Silicon Valley, where it was sort of pitched to sort of young millennial Silicon Valley types, and you would go into a room and they would just make you have an orgasm in front of people. They'd make you a pop up. Well, they would. So they'd be like, hey, it's a good stress relief to come and so you'd go over

there and they'd make you come and you pay their money. But the leader ran away with a bunch of money. Who knew? If only there was some way that we could have known that the or a leader of an orgasm called itself as intentions. Yeah, that I wouldn't have seen that one coming. Why didn't have to be public, you know, in front of everyone else? Well, that's the way. Obviously, you don't get it. That's fine, David. It's not for you. Look, I'll stick to my dog. So, DVDs, all right. The one that I really wanted to, that I wanted to,

that I've been fascinated with, I remember as a boy, watching a story on them, on Perth News, on the nightly news, because I think that they came to Perth or they had a Perth sort of chapter, is the Raylions. Raylions. The Raylions. And the reason I like the Raylions is because they haven't murdered anyone. Good, we like that. And they don't like to call themselves a cult. None of them do. Yeah, they don't have any movement.

Yes, they're always a movement, a collective, a community. Yeah. And these guys haven't done anything terrible. They've claimed to do a couple of things, but I mean, a lot of it is not you don't buy into it. I have to say, if there are any aliens listening, I apologize if I get some facts wrong, but your religion is confusing. if I get some facts wrong. But your religion is confusing. So make it maybe make it a bit clearer. I read the last 90% of our audience there been. I got deep into a book one of one of the books that the leader Rayelle wrote and it is not an easy read. Okay, okay. It is apologies, no offense intended. Absolute nonsense. I'm really glad though you've set up the top

that nobody dies because now I feel comfortable just like sticking the boot in and taking the piss. That's the beauty of it. That's why I was like, I don't want this no death. No death please. No death. No death, please. No death. No death. Natural causes or, you know, short,

but not directly related to the movement. That's right. If the cult could be like, not cult, all the movement are people that live forever. That would be good, wouldn't it? If they didn't die at all, ever. So, Ray L, who is the leader and prophet of Raylian, of the Raylian movement, is a man, he's a French man, which is...

Ray L. Yep. Now, picture someone in a sort of 70s science fiction costume with the shoulder pads, like that V tunic. Yes. And they've got a bald head with hair on the sides and a little top knot, like a little, like a kind of science fiction, 80s science fiction samurai. Friatuck meets 80s. Got a nice 80s beard and speaks in a very heavy French accent. That is Raël, also known as Claude Varyl-Hon. Varyl-Hon. Varyl-Hon. Varyl-Hon. Varyl-Hon. Varyl-Hon. Is this all one word? Okay. Claude Varyl-Hon. Okay. Yeah. Claude. Claude. He's got a nice sort of journey. Okay, he's not us. He genuinely, I believe that he genuinely believes

that these things happen to him. I would like to think that he's not, this isn't like some kind of grand manipulative plan, although it could be, you never know, with these cunts. Sorry, I said C, I said the can't word, I apologize. But he was a sports car journalist and test driver for racing cars. Look, I don't know what I expected, but a cult leader, I wouldn't have expected to be yet to a test driver. You know why that is, but that's just probably the most shocking career it could have been. This is prior to his encounter, which is because I haven't told you what they believe. And this is, so I'm setting the scene here. Yeah. So he was a editor for a car racing magazine called,

Uttopop. Uttopop. I love it. And he was on the road a lot. Okay, he was traveling, he was moving and shaking, he was going doing it, doing races and being in cars and having a good time. Okay. But he was also riding for them. So he's a writer. Okay. He knows how to write. Yeah. Unlike David, who cannot write. David cannot write. He can read, but he can't write. Yeah. It's a baffling, baffling thing. He's got to go. It's not true. and the best thing is he's got gone on. It's not true. It's really odd. He often makes me write stuff down. Just so I can read up and then read it. Yeah.

So this is the thing, so Rayleigh is anism has often been described as a religion for atheists. Okay. In a way. It's pretty small as well. It says that there are 90,000, but people are like, we reckon there's about 20,000. So it's quite a small cold in the grand scheme of things. But they're everywhere, they're all around the world. Okay. You could be friends with the Brailleanist and you wouldn't even know. Yeah, we might have one who listens.

Yeah. They might be doing central meditation, which is how they part of their practices. And you wouldn't even notice. Wow. Yeah. He was born in Vichy, which is a beautiful town in France. Hmm. Beautiful.

Vichy was so beautiful. This is a little bit off topic. It was one of Hitler's favorite places. Wow. During the occupation, he loved it. He loved it, did he? He loved it because Napoleon loved it. Okay. There you go. So it's a real hotspot. Did you have that fact locked and loaded? Or when you were looking it up, did it mention on its Wikipedia that it was what it hitless fakes. You already knew that.

I wasn't even planning on saying that, but here I am saying it right now. Yeah. Have you got a list of Hitler's five favorite hot spots? No. That looks five favorite hot spots. Number five. Did you see France? Number four. The Eagles nest.

Number, okay, we can go. I'll stop. Catholic father. No, sorry, Jewish father, apparently. Catholic father. No, sorry Jewish father apparently. Catholic mother, but she is atheist. Oh, apparently. One day. Okay. Is a beautiful day in December 1973. He's driving. And he stops and he's hiking. He has a little hike. He drives and then he hikes. I know. he's hiking. He has a little hike.

He drives, and then he hikes. I know, he or man can do both. He's in a secluded area in Southern Central France. It's a volcanic crater. And he feels electricity in the air, the atmosphere. It's so secluded, there's no one else around. There's thick cloud, very close by. And he hears a worrying, and he sees a red light

in the clouds. And the light is just hovering, and then slowly comes down. And through the cloud, you see a silver flying saucer. Wow. That's right. They usually are silver, aren't they? That feels like a pretty classic color.

Yeah. There's a lot of classic nods. To older science fiction and in Ray L's teachings. In fact, I'll get to that a little bit later, but he has been accused of plagiarism from a number of different religions and science fiction authors from the 50s, 60s and 70s. But it's entirely based on his experience.

Yes, that is correct. Oh, please, Tommy Doughford. So who gets a mention? Please. That's going to be real. So it lands down. A little trap door opens up and stairs come out. Like a, like a mad-ic lover.

Yeah, that's how he says, he says, a little trap door comes out and stairs pop out. That's what he says in his book. Wow Which is a very confusing book And for he tells you he's telling you all this this is up in the top of the book and then pretty much the rest of book one is him just going through Genesis and sort of the early parts of the old Old Testament just going it's actually aliens, but We'll get to that little bit later.

You know, copy and paste of Genesis because the word count wasn't long enough for his publisher. So just trapped. So it's like can we beef it up a bit? Anyway, I get ahead of myself and I power ties if I'm just all over the place, but I love it. We love it. From that trap tour, a childlike figure. It is about four foot. shorter than me. I'm five foot two. Okay, this is a four foot man. Got black long hair,

long black hair, black beard. Okay, so it's not a child, you know that for sure. Sure. Or it's a child with some sort of testosterone imbalance. Yeah, maybe. Or it could be Mediterranean. Yeah. And just growing early, like 12, but hormones of kick-dain. He's not growing, but the beads there. Yeah. He does, however, have sort of pale-wide skin with a greenish tinge. And this is, I quote, like someone with liver trouble. What?

I'm kidding. Liver trouble. Liver trouble. And he's wearing a green one piece, Chinese green one piece. And he's got a strange halo or shimmer around him. And he's talking to him via telepathy and he says, ''Claude, we made you come here.''

Suck shit, we made you come here. You eat me? I've been controlling you through telepathy and he's like, ''What?'' and he's like, ''Let me ask you this question.'' ''Claude, okay, have you bought a Bible?'' and he's like, ''Yeah, he's like, let me ask you this question, Claude. Okay, have you bought a Bible? And he's like, yeah, I did, even though I'm atheist, I did buy a Bible and I've been reading it recently.

He's like, yeah, I fucking made you do that. You would eat it. Yeah. Whoa. And then he says, come back and we've chosen you. Okay, you've been chosen. You're gonna help us. You're the one. Okay, you're a neo. And he's like, why me? And he's like, well, okay, they needed someone in a country where new

ideas were welcomed, where it was possible to talk openly about these ideas. Democracy was born in France. Right. We open to it. You need a free thinker. All the people they chose, the guy who test drives cars. Yeah. You've got a Jewish mother, a father, anacathic mother. Okay, so you're open to things. All right. And you're not a scientist. Nor are you a literary genius. So you won't over-complicate things. You're a bit dumb, Paul. You're a bit stupid, so you'll simplify stuff. And also we wanted someone that was born after the atomic bomb was dropped for some reason. Right.

I don't know why. These guys throughout, he loves talking about atomic weapons, atomic things, the aliens love atomic weapons, use atomic missiles and atomic ray guns. It's real like 70s, you know, just science fiction, the atom bomb is still magic. So it's kind of fun. It's kind of fun to hear all the... No, you don't hear people going, oh, it's atomic. Very, very much. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's kind of fun. It's kind of fun to hear all the... No, you don't hear people going, oh, it's atomic. Very much. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, it's cool. I like the language that he uses, even though it's mostly nonsense. Anyway, he says, get out, go, come back tomorrow with your Bible and a notepad. Wow. So not often, to people have, well, not that I've heard, of the paranormal experiences I've heard about, it's been like, they've blacked out and woken up somewhere a bit different and then they remember stuff later or it happens once and then, but these guys are saying, go away. Let's meet back here, same time, same place. Bring some coffee.

My bill of cake, wouldn't say no, a bit cake. Bring some snacks. Bring some snacks, we'll be peckish. And then we'll hang out some more. That's interesting. Yeah. He comes back the next day. Yeah.

Little green man with liver trouble. He's there. He brings them into his ship. What? He tells them, hey man, I'm an Elohim. I'm a part of the Elohim. I, we created the humans and all life on earth. Oh, okay. They're now. Yeah. I think God would have a little something to say about that. Well, see, this is what the railions believe. They believe that this, basically, it's ancient, ancient astronaut. That's the sort of genre of science fiction that we're doing. Okay. Right. So that's the, that it's the ancient astronaut genre. One man's god is another man's science. You know, science.

genre, one man's god is another man's science. And the Bible is correct. However, it's over simplified. So all these things that happened, Ray L then explains they did happen, they're real. But this is why this is actually the science behind it, this is how it's been inter- this is the mistake in the interpretation. And so the day that he comes back, the alien sets the record straight and just quotes non-stop Bible verses at him and says, yeah, actually, this was, this is actually science, so be really. This was actually science, so do you really? So it's pretty cute how in the Bible they said Jesus did that himself, but no science. I haven't gotten into any Jesus stuff. We're mainly in Genesis.

Yeah, right. Early Bible. As chord just got the red pen out and he's just crossing bits out, annotating, being like wrong, incorrect. Absolutely. Incredible. Absolutely. Incredible. So one day, a long, long time ago,

Elohim scientists were studying the galaxy, they were charting and looking for other planets. Elohim are kind of quasi immortal and very advanced in science and can communicate telepathically. Right, but I don't have medicine to treat people with liver disease. Is that a problem? No. They've got a they've got a they're very free love. So, Lila, Lila him love to fuck. Their DTF all day long 24 7. Must be exhausting.

Yeah. And they are coming across this, they come across earth and their flying saucer. And they say hang on a tick, the light is good. This is a line. That's the direct sort of a, that's, he's starting to do the first day God created this, God created that. Are they doing the bloody open house? Like, oh, good natural light. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.

Good natural light, kind of quiet neighborhood, no neighbors. We could have a party here. We could make something here. So their scientists come over and they're like, they split into groups and they start having little competitions with each other, the scientists, the first they make the fish, then they make the birds, then they're like dinosaurs and dragons. What do you think about that? And they give them a shunt and they're like, no, don't worry about it. Then the herbivores pop in and then the carnivores pop in. So they make carnivores to sort of regulate herbivore populations.

Then this is where this shit gets crazy because the scientists make little test-to-do babies. They make humans. What? An Elohim government back home in on Elohim world is all like dudes. What are you doing man? Stop fucking around with the kids. You can't be doing that shit because we don't want these cons to be real smart and then come and kill us, okay? You can't be doing this. You can't be doing this shit.

They're like, we're going to do it anyway. We're a scientist. We're going to have a bit of fun. Classic. So they can't be doing this shit and they're like, we're gonna do it anyway, we're scientists, we're gonna have a bit of fun. Classic scientists. Classic. But I always just wanna have a little bit of fun, and nobody will let them have fun. Yeah, the scientists later become exiled and are referred to as the creators.

And there's one of them called Yahweh, but I get confused about that sort of stuff coming on. Each race of human corresponds to the scientist that created them. They're made of their own image. I see. So they like clone themselves and pop them on there. Okay.

These are a little bit of their own giz. Yeah, that's right. They're giz to test tubes. They put in the microwave. Boom. You got another human. Baby. Boom, baby. Now, here's some, here's, it starts to get a little bit straight. This is the first time I've ever ears go.

Because they go, the best team of scientists, the best with the Israel team. Oh, okay. And they made the best ones. The Israelites and their animals were the most beautiful and their people were the most beautiful. And so they were like, but the government's like, well, you guys gotta shut this the fuck down, okay?

And so they kinda shut it down, but it gets confusing. It's not really well written, and somewhere along the line, we're shutting it down, but we're also making these two real good ones, and they're gonna fuck around in the Garden of Eden, in the most perfect place. Ah. This is the Israel team.

The Israel team were like, we're gonna make these fucking sick cons and they're going to be the best. And they're doing all this sorts of things. And Adam and Eve, the two men and lady, they're running around without skin, talking animals and shit. And the serpent's like, yeah, dudes, this is actually what's cooking. You are created by the alien. And then, I mean, you've got to fucking get us in on this. You've got to get us in on this. We want in.

And they try and get into the library that is filled with all the alien knowledge. And the government's like, see, this is exactly what we didn't want. Okay. So they forced the scientists to be like, you got to guard them with atomic weapons. And we got to put some skin on these, these uppity humans. I had no skin. I don't like that bit. You got to put some skin, get in some clothes, and kick them out.

Yeah, it can't be immortal like us. You got to kick them out and put them in the world. And then you got to, because the serpent was so mean, you got to make that a slippery little snake that runs around on the floor all day. Okay, that's their punishment. So the snake was just trying to tell the truth and he gets punished for it, which is a bit of a dark act. The snake was like a whistleblower.

Yeah, exactly. Wow. Yeah. And then in the Bible, it's all like, oh, this evil naughty snake. Hmm. So humans are more powerful. They're more like intelligent than the Elohim, but they don't live as long. Right.

And that's kind of their stopgap to make sure that they don't rise up against the Elohim. Because we die. Yeah. But the government's still not happy on yellow heim, okay? One more do they want? Because humans have started to learn shit and more shit and they're like, we can't, they're getting better.

So we're gonna send a bunch of atomic missiles over to Earth. And meanwhile, the scientists, the creators, they're like, no dude, we just fucking, we made all this stuff. We're going to get this guy Noah. And we're going to teach him how to make a spaceship. And he's going to put one of every animal in the spaceship because part of the rail list, well, rail list belief is physicalism, which is everything that we experience and feel is real and physical.

It has a physical form and manifestation. Even one person has enough data in them to recreate more. You can get blue prints off me and make more if no one else lives. Okay. Yeah. So, he put two of everything in there to save it. They fly up. The missile's hit.

There's a, it submerges all the continents in water, which doesn't really make sense, because it's an atomic bomb, wouldn't it just like flash evaporate all the water, but it doesn't matter. Well, I suppose it feels like a giant, like a meteor type thing. You've made a massive splash or something. Yeah. That'd be cool. But the splash is so big, we all got splashed.

Yeah, you throw a pretty decent size rock or brick into water and it kind of goes like broke and makes a big splash. That's true. That's one of my favorite things in my entire life. That's true. You're right. I apologize for I'm so sorry. Big splash. That's true. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. With my entire life. That's true. You're right. I apologize. I'm so sorry. Big splash. Yeah. It's just kind of filled like this book is just filled with shit. It's pretty much all this. It's almost like it's all like this is actually what it was. And it starts to get

really old really quickly. It's the same. It's not a great read, it's not, it's just not fun. Yeah. Very dry. But you can listen to the audio book. It's on their website. Oh, as read by, it's called reader. Some English dude, I'll play you some, I can play it through my speaker, through my channel, actually. Here, I'll give you, this is a little bit about Sodom and Gomorrah. No, here we go. Samson and Delilah. Samson.

Can you hear that? The telepathy. Yes. In Judges, chapter 13, there is yet another example of mating taking place between the creators and human women. And the angel of Yahweh appeared unto the woman and said, You are barren and have no child, but you shall conceive and give birth to a son. Judges 13, verse 3. It was necessary that the fruit of this union be healthy,

so that the behavior of the child could be studied. This is why he tells her, And drink not the wine nor strong drink drink and eat not any unclean thing For low thou shalt conceive and bear a son And no razor shall come on his head for the child shall be a Nazarene Consecrated unto God from the womb Judges 13 verse 4 through 5 later it is written and the angel of it's just that Oh Later it is written and the angel of ad... It's just that. Oh, right. Right. Wow. So, sorry, just to clarify, pregnant woman, no wine and donate dirt.

Yeah. What can you do? He can't even take a razor to your own baby. Yeah. I'm going to hear it baby. No, Cue, it meets no soft cheese, no dirt. Are you fucking kidding me? What was left?

God dammit. Later in this chapter, he goes on to say that hair is actually antenna for our inert telepathy that goes into our brain. So the hair is connected to the brain and is antenna. Right. And they picture half-bold man. Half-bold man to be the representative.

You always got a little top-not-up top. Yeah. That's good. He's big. He's big. He's just going to the back. Yeah. So don't be shavin. Please. Another one, which was fun, is that the Tower of Vabel was actually a rocket ship. Okay. And the government back on Elohim was like, see, they're doing it again. We're going to make them talk different languages now. And that's how all everyone talks different languages. I make sense. It makes a lot of sense, guys. The more you think about it, the more it makes more, more more sense.

Jonah and the whale, Jonah, the whale was actually a submarine. Oh, okay. It's an easy mistake. You fucking idiots. I often see a submarine, I go, oh, the cute little whale over the end vice versa. The amount of submarines I've tried to pass, honestly. Yeah. So long story short, they are either believe

that we are descendants from ancient aliens, from an ancient astronaut, team of astronauts, that cloned themselves and made us. So we are clones from aliens. It feels very Scientology. Yeah. But is somehow different? Different outfits? Different outfits. No, there's no famous people that are aliens. I look, there are no famous aliens, or at least they keep quiet on it. Yeah, they're, they're, they're,

they're closeted aliens. So, all this, you still have no idea what the fuck they believe. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, what is their outlook? Let me tell you, it's very difficult to find that out. They just believe this shit. And then the rest is so sort of buried in nonsense. It's hard to figure it out.

Okay. I don't really, I mean, they're big activists in that. So it feels very French. Yeah, okay. It's like French Scientology, basically. Wow. A little bit sexy, you know what I mean? Okay, yeah. Rayleighans believe that humanity would be able to create life on other planets, only if it's peaceful enough to stop war.

This is quoted from a Wikipedia page, so I apologize. Humanity could travel the distance between, if done, humanity can travel the distance between stars and create life on other planets. Progress in terraformformation and molecular biology and cloning would enable these teams to create continents and lives from scratch. Progress in social engineering would ensure that the creation would have better chance

of both surviving out of your bullshit. And that's kind of what they believe. Hmm, right, but we've got to get it. We've got to have peace here before we can go to other places. Is that sort of what they're trying to get at with the? Yeah, we've got to have peace. They we can go to other places. Is that sort of what they're trying to get at with the? Yeah, we've got to have peace. They're very based, they're peace based. They are progressive in terms of a kind of belief in feminism,

but it's kind of this weird like, women should get their boobies out. We're feminists. Is that what it is? Women should be able to get the boobies out and fuck whoever they want. If it's me, I'm happy with that. They are, they practice, you know, they're bisexual. So they're pretty chill, you know.

They're pretty fucking chill. And yeah, that's, they want to, their ultimate goal at the moment is to create a embassy for the Elohim. So when the space scientists return, they have a place to work in order to offer guidance for the advancement of humankind. Wow. Yeah. How did it kind of go from him having this extraterrestrial encounter to then, you know, getting other people on board and... Well, they said that's what they wanted. They were like, dude, you got to, this is all, we want you because you're a little bit dumb. You're not too smart. And your mother is Catholic and your dad's a Jew.

I feel like... You're gonna... The criteria they gave him could fit a lot of people. He's not that special. He's like me. I see myself in him. Okay. Now we're getting somewhere.

And that might be it. I think the appeal of it is that everything is physical and they use meditation and the peace and sort of pacifism and love are the keys to human advancement, which I would agree. Nothing wrong with that. I think that's cool, you know. When they start to get a little bit weird when they, you know, have kind of, when they have sex parties and shit like that. Okay, sure. A little bit too full on for me. But maybe that's my own thing that I have to get over. You know what I mean? Their symbol has a little swastika in it.

Yeah, so I was going to get to that. So the symbol. Oh, I'm so sorry. No, no, I'm glad you're... I couldn't help but look them up. No, when you see it, you have to bring it. Yeah, it definitely has to be first. Because I was like, do they know what they've done?

And then the caption under the symbol on Wikipedia says, the Australian symbol with the swastika. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, they're everywhere. Okay. So the Australian symbol is the star of David with the swastika inside it. Oh, god, oh, my god. So the listeners, you're probably going, that doesn't feel right. of David with a swastika inside it. Oh god, oh my god. So you listeners, you're probably going, that doesn't feel right.

But he says that the swastika was stolen by Hitler and they're trying to reclaim it. Because the swastika is a symbol of peace, it's used in a lot of different religions as a symbol of peace. And that's what, that's used in a lot of different religions as a simple piece and that's why they use it. Because they're trying to reclaim the swastika back from the Nazis. Right. Yeah.

As like a branding exercise, I feel like they got professional PR people to look at that. If you want to get more people on board with your movements, slash cult, I feel like, as soon as you see the swastika, it does put up a little barrier for me. For God's sake. Yes, absolutely. Me too, because listen, this is going to be very brave for me, but I don't like Nazis. Wow, thank you for being brave on this podcast. I think that they, they should all just go into the sun. Yeah. You know? Get in the sun. Get in the sun, Nazis. Yeah. That's putting it very nice. Yeah, a little lots of the natives. Yeah. Well, if I say, I think we should kill every single Nazi on Earth, it feels a little bit too much, but that is

on earth. It feels a little bit too much, but that is what I believe. See, it feels weird. It feels weird when you say, instead I say we should shoot all the Nazis into the sun, and people are like, that's charming. That's fun. But just once did a report on Nancy Wake, who was like a very anti-Nazi in World War II, killed a lot of them. And what was her quote, you're only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. So, yeah. So, she's a fucking of them. And what was her quote? You're only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. So, yeah. So, she's a fucking cool lady. Yeah. She knows what's up.

Yeah. She gets a get the sun. Get the sun. So, they are big advocates of sex positive feminism and GMOs. Okay. They are allied with Monsanto, which is strange. Because you think of Monsanto and you think, well, they're evil. They fuck over farmers and, you know, aren't great. They're about people.

But GMOs, anything GMO they absolutely love, because genetically modified, they love genetically modified. In 2003, they claimed that they had successfully cloned a child or cloned a baby, but I cannot find any evidence that this is in fact true. But then they said it. In fact, there has been discounted as incorrect. But they say it. Yeah, no. They say a lot of shit, a lot of stuff to just like manufacture some controversies over

time. And that's just get people talking about them. It's really fun. And here we are. It kind of like, yeah, we cloned the baby. They're like, no, you can't. No, honestly, we did. It was. It was very beautiful. We cloned the babies. We did it. Talk about that. No, we don't want to talk about. How come you do not want to talk about that? We did it. Talk about that. No, we don't want to talk about how come you do not want to talk about that. The clone that maybe through there, they've got a cloning company called clone aid, which has not done anything. So far as I can understand. They're raising money for poor clones. Yeah, clone aid. Every time I click, click that clap my fingers. A child is not closed. Stop fucking clapping then. Apologies to a handful of comedians who all say that that is their bit.

What else? What else is there that's fun? According to the book, Matreja, which is what Rael is called in sort of Asian countries, the Traia, which is another word for a blue Buddha. It's what Buddha, they, people you call young Buddha or something, I don't know, apologies, if that's incorrect. There's something Buddhist about that word. Love involves experiencing different varieties and possibilities that allow one to break habits in order to make life more pleasant and interesting. And that is the only thing that can stop war and injustice that persists in today's world. Raylions believe in the right to form new religions or new political parties, as long as they do not promote violence as individualists. Raylions believe that the one who gives the order to harm others is less at fault than the one who executes it, which I don't necessarily believe in.

Yeah, sort of the leader being like, it's not me. I didn't, I only ordered people to kill. I didn't do it. Yeah. Usually it is often. Raylian say the other way around. They encourage adult homosexual, bisexual, and heterosexual relationships. And that society should recognize them legally. However, government authorities, such as those in Switzerland, fear that Raylians are threat to public morals. such as those in Switzerland fear that Raylions are threat to public morals. So there you go. I don't know who I believe, who I'm

on side of that one. So they're allies. They're allies. They're big-time allies. Okay. Susan J. Palmer wrote in 1991, she's a French journalist who went to Raylion, a Raylion seminar and taped

couples having sexual intercourse intense. These tapes gained widespread publicity with news stories describing these practices as perverted and to form a brainwashing. So hang on, she went and taped people just having sex and there's check out these purfers. Check them out. I filmed them for six hours. Look at what they're doing. Look at what they're doing. Exactly. So they like to feed. They fuck a lot. What are they? What's another one? I'm just sort of going through all the little things that they've done and said, since 1991, Rails teaching on sexual intercourse of course, controversy

among other religious groups. The next year Catholic schools in Montreal, Canada, objected to a proposed condom vending machine as a contrary to their mission. In response, Raylian Guides gave the Catholic students 10,000 condoms. Commissioner of Catholic schools of Montreal said they could do nothing to stop them around this time. Raylions dubbed the event Operation Condom. So we're yelling as though handing them out Operation Condom. Condom dole, please. Would a so I'm kind of on I'm on the Raylion side on that one.

Yeah, get connies on whack them on get them in Teach kids about condoms. Yeah, it's crazy that it's not I think it's cool now one of the main things stop me if you've Already done this a major practice of railing as a mid-central meditation Something that Rayor outlined in his 1980 book something that Rayal outlined in his 1980 book, Le Meditécian Sensuelle, which I believe is French for central meditation. I get a fact check on that. Yeah, I've got a hundred of such.

I think you should make claims that you cannot back up. Raylians are encouraged to take part in this guided meditation or visualization on a daily basis with the intent of transmitting love and telepathic links through their hair to the Elohim and achieving harmony with infinity. In this, practitioners are often assisted in this meditation through listening to an instruction tape. Central meditation sessions also take place communally at the group's monthly meetings during which the assembled adherence sit or lie on the floor in a dimly lit room. They are then guided through it

by a rallying guide speaking through a microphone. The meditation may be accompanied by new aged mood music. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. New age music. That's going to be a bit of fun. It's a bit fun. It's a bit fun. It's a bit fun. And do I do music? If you go to the Raylion Movement Sound Cloud, you can find some of these Raylion artist songs.

Would you like me to play you one? Yes. I'm meditate with me. I'm meditate with me, meditate with me, one minute for peace, come meditate with me. Open all eyes. The central medication begins with a relaxant exercise known as hominocion avec infiniti or commonization with the infinite. One stage of this process is oxygenation, which entails deep breathing. Practitioners are taught to relax and then envision themselves expanding their frame of reference

until the self becomes only a tiny spec within the universe. They are then tasked with visualizing the bones and organs of the bodies and ultimately the atoms within the body themselves. The guided meditation they encourage they encourage the meditators to imagine themselves being on the Elohim's planet and communicating telepathically with these aliens.

So there you go. Wow. Do you want to listen to some more? I mean, are they all that, that literal lyrics of that? Don't meditate with me. Shut up. Shut up. Anyway, that's, so there you go.

Yeah, very little little lyrics, as you're saying, Dave. It does feel a bit like it's either aimed at children or it's just, because my partner is someone who just sings what he's doing. And it feels a bit like that kind of, that there's not always a great rhyme in there, but it's just singing what he's doing. And it had that kind of feel to me as well.

I've run out of the Rayleigh and Wiggles. Yeah, do yeah. Well, you know, the body, meditate with me. So the journalist Palmer, who filmed everyone fucking. Sorry, she filmed a bunch of pervs. She did. She pervert. She perved on the pervs.

Who pervs on the pervs? The pervert pervs. Palmer found that Rayleigh and Zvaryingly described a sense of physical wellbeing, psychic abilities, or sexual arousal during these meditations and interpreted these as evidence that they were in telepathic contact with the Elohim. The goal of central meditation is to achieve a cosmic orgasm, which I've always made people cosmically orgasm. That's what they tell me, you know. It's the only way to do it. They definitely

tell me, yeah, which is characterized as the ultimate experience a person can have Paul McCoy did one senior Raylian as describing the cosmic orgasm as the sensual experience of the unity between the self and the universe. Wow. So is like, like, does it tingle or something? I guess so. Okay. I guess so. So really, it's not the most, um, like, relatable explanation of, you know?

I had a girlfriend that told me that she would fake all her cosmic orgasms, which is brutal. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah. I was like, well, why did you tell me that? No, I've got a complex about it. I can make a wrong, guys. I've got a complex about it. It's going to make a roll, guys. I've been not cosmically. Not cosmically.

I mean, that's set in the bar too high. I'm 36. I can't do that stuff anymore. So, yeah, so that gives you that's kind of what they do. They have a big, they always have a little bit of a summit called, I believe, the happiness, something about happiness, something happened as time. They always have a summit, they had a big one in Las Vegas, one in Buffalo, New York, so they get together and they have some stuff.

Sounds fun. Yeah, all of them come around from around the world and have a big rally and fuck fest. Okay. Love it. That's... They love sex. That's... I don't know how much.

Did you guys realize this? I think you touched on it a bit. Yeah. So they do seem to like it don't they? They love it. They absolutely love it. Whereas Dave still waiting to find the right part. You're waiting to find the right cult member. Take me. Yeah. There's people that sex with everyone but me it seems. So yeah.

They're looking. That's all right buddy. Yeah it's okay. Even the Raylions are like, mm, yeah, maybe try something else. Maybe, yeah. And the bubbles, the bubbles right for you. Yeah. Yeah, you say, no, don't worry about Raylions. I'll worry about it. Great, thanks for your addition.

Thank you. We'll be in touch. And they, they never told. Yeah, so like, just like improv, there are structures, and it's a tiered system of alienism. So you got level zero and then further and further. How do you progress? Let me just number of orgasms. Let me read some more from Catherine Palmer.

The structure is divided along a six tiered system. Rail is, of course, at the top of the railing in church. Of course, you can't go anywhere. Can we take him down? He's the son of Yahweh, who's and brother of Jesus. Oh, okay, that's difficult. So no, David, I mean, you could take that top spot. I just hate nepotism. God damn it. Yeah, it's absolutely bullshit.

And he's also, he's referred to as the guide of guides. Senior members of the structure re-elect him to that position each seven years. Oh, wow. It's a seven year term. Seven year-age. Seven year-age. We are for him.

Nah. He's thinking. Below, Rayal, are the Bishop Guides, then the Priest Guides, then the priest guides, then the animators, then the assistant animators. And finally, the probationers, those characterized as guides are expected to be examples for the rest of the movement, for instance, by strictly adhering to the avoidance of alcohol, caffeine, and recreational drugs. You lost me to caffeine.

Yeah. Race, gender, and sexual orientation are no barrier for rising through the ranks of the group's leadership structure. However, Palmer noted that by the mid-1990s, there were few women in leadership positions within the organization. Yeah, I'd still be guessing it would be a bunch of white dudes, but that is just because they were the best people for the job. It feels like one of the, it feels like the whole internet, you know, where they're like, come check out, we all the babes here.

And then it's just a bunch of dudes going, we're all the babes just talking about. LAUGHTER Are you on the babes? Are you on the babes? Yes, I am. One of the babes. LAUGHTER You make me so funny. Are you on the babes? Are you on the babes? Yes, I am one of the babes. You made me so funny.

Three Rayleigh and Bishop sit on the council of the wise, which monitors heresy and arranges punishment for transgressors. When they seek to punish an individual, it is usually for a seven-year excommunication. It lasts seven years because Raylions believe that it takes this long for every cell in the human body to be replaced. In more severe cases, the council can see a demarking, by which they cancel the transmission on the cellular code, believing that this revokes the individual's hope for immortality through cloning.

Oh, no, you get canceled. Yeah, because you can't transmit to the Elohim world anymore. So that way, if you can't transmit in the Elohim world, then your data can't be saved on the Elohim computers. So they can't go, hey, we're gonna clone this dude again, pop him out, put him in a body, done. Okay. Yeah. Well, that's only if body, done. Okay. Yeah.

Well, that's only if you fuck up real bad. Yeah, you must fuck up real bad, like, I don't know, like, I don't know what you do though. What do you do to fuck up? Not have sex? Yeah, I was gonna say, you reject too many people missing all guys on a day or something. He's selfish lover.

Yes. Get out. Get out of here. You don't have time for that. You think we're just fucking for fun. We're fucking for the good of all human mortality. Yeah. Yeah. Members pay annual membership fees to really a movement. Full members of the movement encouraged to tie 10% of their income to the organization, although this is not enforced. This tide is then divided up with 3% going to the National Branch, 7% of the International Movement's Central Administration, and then an additional 1% to Raelle himself. 10% of their salary.

Right. And then Dave, you'd be giving like 20 bucks a fee. That's crazy. And then Raelle would be getting like a bit of that himself. So I don't know why they wouldn't. That's why wouldn't they sign me up? Err, research however Palmer found many practitioners admitted to not paying the time. Ray I'll pay so people. I should have enforced it that I've really set the tone of being cool. I'm not. I'm not. 90,000 people are giving them 10% of their wage. Imagine, or even one more say of their wage. Imagine.

Yeah. Maybe you want to know that. According to Michelle Blitz or Michelle Blitz, the former director of a Rayleigh and Built Museum called UFO Land, the only pressure exerted on members is to attend annual Rayleigh and seminars, which allow members convinced of Rayleigh's enthusiasm to voluntarily tithe.

Palmer, side of Rayleigh, who said that more than 60% of the Rayleigh and movement members do not tithe. Lawson College student conducted a survey of the membership in Canada in 1991, which found that only one third of respondents tithed. So people are just in it for the sensuality. Sure. But you do, like you are pretty strongly encouraged to attend the convention once a year. Yeah. And that can be pricey, you know, airlines, combination, etc. Full as an entry fee. Yeah, must be.

The group owned a country estate in Albe France before obtaining one in Valcourt, Quebec. That's where I believe that's where they are. In Quebec, which is very Quebec in, as far as I'm, you know, Alistair Tromblie, Bertrand Cromes, from Quebec. And he's one of the most central people. I know.

Yes. I mean, he loves to meditate that guy. He loves to meditation. I see. Oh, I didn't realize he was wanking the whole time. He's doing that podcast. Oh, yeah, that does really look a bit natural. Yeah, that's quite a bit.

Yeah. Do you want me to go on? I've got more. I've got more. I don't know how interesting it is. It's very interesting. I mean, you can, you do as much as you would like to. Yeah, what would you do?

Or if there's anything else that you think is particularly interesting or funny, you know. Okay. But if you're over it. No, no, I am fascinated by this. It's really, really fascinating because it's very odd, but also harmless. And there's only 20,000 people. So it's like, it's a small, it's very odd, but also harmless. And there's only 20,000 people. So it's like, it's a small cult, a foreign cult. In terms of a global cult, yeah, for sure.

And do we know, do you have any idea how many Australian members there are? Because you said you knew about it from Perth, is that right? Yeah, I think I did. I'm not entirely sure. I wasn't able to sort of, Raylianism, I'm just sort of searching for it right now. Please excuse me. Surely they have like a, I couldn't find it. Facebook pages or something.

I mean, I did find something here. Australia denounced as rogue nation by Rayal for opposing the UN nuclear band treaty. That was in 2017. Right. So he's so Ray L. And the same as still kicking. Oh, Ray L's still around. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He, in fact, there's a docker that I tried to get my hands on. It's done a couple of rounds at film festivals, but it's gonna be coming out soon about Ray Lianism. Cool. It looks really interesting. And Ray Lianists are also suing the documentarian. Of course. So I'm really eager to watch that. It looks kind of cool.

Yeah, so that's really only mentioned in of Australia that I couldn't find anymore, which was disappointing because I would love Australian Rallyinists. Come on out. Yeah. Try yourselves. Set the record straight. Women comprised only a third of the membership of the Rallyin Church. In 1998, Grale established a new or female group within the broader movement known as the

Order of Raya's Angels. It's like a, that would attract more people. I feel like it's kind of the opposite. I feel like I mean it was in the 90s Charlie's Angels maybe it was like I would like one of these. I would like this. Reyes Angels. The members of which are trained to become court consort of the Elohim. He stated that these women would only, would be the only humans permitted contact with the Elohim after the latter arrived on earth, and that they will be the only people allowed to enter Elohim's embassy. He further adds that they will serve as the Elohim's liaison with human politician

scientists and journalists. They are stated that it was only women who could be angels because men were not feminine enough for the extremely gentle, delicate and sensitive Elohim. I mean, you got to think about it there, and they four feet. They've got liver troubles. They made the touch of a woman. Also trans women were permitted entry. So that's nice and progressive there.

They are progressive. They've got some nice vibe. They've got some good progressive things in there. Yeah, they do a lot of seminars. They hold a week long summer seminar called the stages of awakening. That's pretty fun. And that's a real big sex festival. Sex fest.

Yeah. These seven days are used by reliance as an opportunity to form friendships or sexual relationships. And they wear white togas. That's fun. Togaparti. It's a fucking Togaparti. Yeah.

Which I love. I love a Togaparti. I love a Togaparti. It's an easy costume. You know? It's pretty easy. It's an easy costume, you know, grab a shave. It's crazy. You get it off real easy. Yeah, you comfy. Hmm. I then encourage gender fluidity and expression of gender. What else they got? That's

kind of, that's kind of, you get a good picture from them about that. And now one's killing anyone. Yeah. No one's killing anyone. I like that a lot. And to that, sorry, it was 2002 that they claimed that they'd climbed the first human baby. So that baby is 19 now. We've learned sub-ebi. Nowadays they do sort of pro-GMO activism, anti-war activism, and anti-catholic activism. Okay. They also, several railing groups in the United States have organized annual protest claiming that women should have the same legal rights to go topless in public that men enjoy without fear of arrest of indecent exposure. Okay, they really are free the nip.

Get your boobies out. Let me say your boobies, that's essentially what it is, isn't it? Yeah Okay, yeah, what else do they do anything else? I think that's pretty much it book the They've written a book yes to human cloning in 2001 Who's writing those books? Do they all have a they all have any input? Obviously all 20,000 of them have of them have a look at the drafts and say, I'm just going to make some noise. Yeah.

It has been estimated that the group received a free publicity, free publicity about launching clone aid worth $500 million. So there you go, whatever that means. Was that because people wrote about them? They love free publicity. Wow. In fact, Palmer, the journalist said that the Rayleigh and movement was involved in concocting, then carefully monitoring, monitoring a mild level

of cultural conflict to generate publicity for the group. Right. Yeah. Oh, so maybe having like the... Eddie publicity is good, hopefully. Having the swastika and the star David together. Maybe that is one of those things that gets a lot of attention. Does catch your eye, even if not for the right reasons.

Yeah, he feels like it is just him going, what sort of crazy thing can I say now? Yeah, yeah. So the people will come in and look at this and, you know, the more word that gets out about the Rallyans, the more people are going to look at it and the more word that gets out about the Iranians, the more people are going to look at it, and the more people are like, hey, I like to fuck a lot as well. And this is a fun story. It's basically just a giant swingers party.

Yeah, with a couple of alien stories starting in there. Yeah. It's a very organized swingers community. And they love to have swingers seminars, you know, every so often around the country, around the world, sorry. So I think it's cool. And I'm going to be, I'm going to be signing out. Yeah. So it appeals to you, Ben, you're kind of jam. No. No. Is it just because you don't want to give 10% of your income?

Yes. 10 million? That's the main reason. It's funny because it's so like, I want to say like hack. It's so kind of hack science fiction. It's so old and tired. The story. And it's just him going, yeah, this was actually a spaceship around

the Bible for those sorts of stuff. I can't. Yeah, it feels like a year right, like doing like a story, like a creative writing story. And they were like, oh, based on the Bible. Yeah, it's actually, that was actually alien. Yeah. And every time someone's got a question, alien, alien, alien, sub-rained, alien, rocket ship. Yeah. There has been compelling evidence to support the view that railers take in concepts and often paraphrased full paragraphs from other UFO and ancient astronaut authors of the 1950s, 60s and 70s such as Jean-Cendi, Brindsley Le Poir, Brindsley Le Poir, Tenche and Robert Chagru. And he also, the philosophy, the Raelian philosophy,

is closely matched to Osho, who is a guru. Right, so he's just doing a bit of peaking and choosing. Oh, Oshawa was the orange man. He did the orange man cult. What's the orange man? Oh, you know, the orange man cult, the wild people, wild people, wild at heart or whatever that docker was. He's the one that they build that big settlement in the US.

Any add all those orange people and they all had sex as well. It was the biggest kind of weird sex cult that then got super weird and fucked up. You got to balance the weed right when you're creating a sex cult. You got to get just the right amount of weed. What do they called again? Gotta get just the right amount of weed. The, what do they call it again? That's such a crazy cut. Because I, it did feel a lot like the orange people. You know, you know the orange people? No, I can't say, I don't know.

No. I don't think I do. Well, I think it you back Wild Country. Osho.co. Osho.co. Osho.co. The Wild Wild Country is on Netflix, such a great documentary series. If you are fascinated by colds, check this out because it starts, like it doesn't start normal, but it starts sort of harmless enough and then slowly just it just goes into madness. It's a great story and it does definitely smack of

Rayllionism and the Rayllionist movement except they never built a big city out in the middle of fucking nowhere in the US. But I know some people who were say honest or whatever they call. I know some people who their parents were orange people. Really? Yeah, it was big. They had a movement in Australia. It's very interesting. And the way that people do get kind of caught up or end up joining cults and stuff is always very interesting too. Yeah, and just what it does to people as well, like the sort of offspring of those cultists, like what's his face? WikiLeaks man. Yes, I was a part of the family, which is a Victorian cult that was all into LSD. Aussie. Yeah, they did LSD out in the bush.

Right. Was the family, because I haven't looked into that one much, but I've heard of it. Was that, were they fucked? I think they were a little bit fucked, but on the scale, they were more railing on the scale, they were more Rayllianism on the Rayllism slide, slider of things. But I don't know that for sure. I think they were pretty fucked up though, like psychological stuff. Yeah, that is a lot of fun, Rayllianism, and just, yeah, that's blood. Great stuff. Right, so I think it's the best title for a cult or religious movement that I've heard. The fact that he's...

Raylian, isn't it? Raylian, take it from what I mean, good. Yeah, yeah, we'll make that. We'll call that Raylian. Raylian. No, these are not aliens. They're aliens. They're aliens.

They're very different. They're very different. They're very different. They're very different. They're very different. They're very different. We had, when I grew up in Perth, we had a big brethren population that lived in the Northern suburbs.

So we'd always see brethren around. And the brethren always wore like denim skirts and had really long hair with a flower in it and button up like office shirts. Kind of like they were like Australian armish. Okay. Yeah. So that was kind of like they were like Australian Amish. Okay. Yeah. So that was kind of cool.

I just, I like fringe. People just get so cold up in it. It's the power of wanting to be a part of a community. I think has a real strong draw. How addictive that can be. Yeah. When you feel like you're a part of something, especially say like, you know, with those bigger ones, you feel like you're a part of something, especially say like, you know, with those bigger ones, you feel like you're actually changing the world. And even with railingism, they have this

that convinced you that they are more enlightened, that they know something that the rest of the world doesn't. Yeah. And then if you join it, you're in on this little secret that no one knows. It's very similar. I mean, it's exactly the same, actually, to QAnon and how they operate and why that is more cult than conspiracy because they are of this belief that this exists and they're the only ones that know it and you guys won't even understand. The media will say that we're crazy when in fact we are the only sane ones. will say that we're crazy when in fact we are the only sane ones. And yeah, it just isolates you off from the real world. So this community is your only thing, the only people that understand you and get you.

And I'm fast. I just find that whole, because I am such a cynical piece of shit sometimes. I feel almost envious that people can have that belief without question. That's why I'm envious of most people that are religious, that you can just accept that there is a big man in the cloud and he loves you, but he's also a bit of a cunt. He also will give children bone cancer,

but also if you don't love him, he will make you pay for it for all eternity. Like, he's kind of this kind of petty thing, but no one talks about the pettiness. We all talk about how he loves everyone. Look at that river. It's beautiful. Thank you for making that beautiful. Thank you for making that.

But bone cancer and children, he works in mysterious ways. So there's a reason behind it. Oh, sorry. I love, and this was heavily, like the hug, the sun was very influenced by the sort of Catholic teachings. My favorite story is the Sodom and Gomorrah story when poor lot and is wife are running away from this city that's being just like people are getting massacred

by angels in this city and God's like, don't fucking look around if you do. And then his wife goes, what looks around at this place that she grew up and lived all her life and met her husband and lived all her life and met her husband, has all her memories. She looked back at it and he's like, I'd fucking told you. Spill the rest up. Like awful, an awful person. God's an awful person.

But anyway, that's why God is. But the aliens, they're really, they're God. They're cool. Totally. Yeah. Well, I mean, they don't, they just believe that we are an experiment gone wrong. So I can understand why the people say

that it's atheism for religious people. Because there's no divine. And it's all just science. It's all just waived away but science. But it is complete nonsense. Yeah, but then who created those aliens that created us? Whoa. Whoa. That's a good question, Dave. You just blew this fucking whole thing wide open. Yeah, probably a god, but he just hangs that over in their planet. Yeah. Whoa.

I wonder if he is a mean, a mean petty and childish god like ours. Well, it gives them all a little. And I'm actually more of like a big libousky kind of vibe. Yeah. Well, at least Buddhism is just all about keeping poor people poor and being happy with being poor. That's why I like Buddhism's fun because it's like, hey, you're poor, stay that way. Anyway, I could talk about this sort of ship forever.

Is there many other things that you based, hug the sun on? If you said there's a bit of Catholic Catholic Catholicism in there, is there other teachings and things? It's a lot of Catholicism. It's a based heavily, we're inspired heavily from a real-life television show that was shot in Perth in the 80s called Sing Me a Rainbow. Oh, okay. And it was based, it was like a kids' variety TV show with super heavy It was like a kids variety TV show with super heavy Catholic overtones. So we kind of, we watched that and we're like, what if we did this with fake religion? Yeah, yeah, awesome. A sun worshipping religion.

Because the only, I said it before, but the only thing between, you know, Scientology, oh, that's crazy, you know, Mormonism is a religion though. The only thing that differentiates between, you know, Mormonism, Scientology and Catholicism is time. It's just the time we've all had a chance to just let it go, do its thing. Now catholicism's not crazy, even though it's absolutely insane. But I'm obsessed with that. I love that concept, and I love how we kind of just forget things. As humans, we just kind of be like, we're just like, yeah, we'll reset, we'll reset after, you know, sure there was a big war against Nazis in the 40s.

But now they're coming back because we've somehow forgotten, you know, that Nazis are awful. I don't know. I like that. I don't know. We're on. I have nothing else to say. Well, thank you so much. I go off on tangent. I'm sorry. I know you didn't. No, you didn't. Honestly, we appreciate it so much. You're coming on and sharing your enthusiasm for cults because we share it to you. Yes, and I do apologize. If viewers are religious, I apologize. I think that you're doing a great job.

And I like the right to worship, and I respect your right to believe. I just think that it's nonsense, which is fine. It's fine, that's okay. You can think that I think me thinking that it's nonsense is nonsense and I respect your belief. Yeah, covered your eyes. Yep.

So Ben, again, thank you so much for telling us about Raylians. And if anyone who experienced your cult and hug the sun with you, one more time, where's the best place for people to check that out? The YouTubeans. You ever heard of this? YouTubeans. Yeah, the YouTubeans. Go to www.youtube.com and then type into that search ball bar bar.

Set ball. Sorry. bar bar set ball sorry Grousehouse g-r-o-u-s-e and then house Exactly how it sounds which is not with the w It's with a you and then an s and then an e So you've tricked me into spilling it. You're very clever listener well done Awesome Grousehouse and there's all the the the episodes really so far on that YouTube and channel. It's really, really funny and I'm sure a lot of our listeners will recognise a lot of people

from Melbourne and Australian comedy also joining you and Xavier on the show. Yes, and we've got a puppet in it which looks a lot like Dave. Well, if you haven't, if if you haven't enough that Dave could sue Yeah, I think so. I think he's definitely got Yeah, we just gave him for what is it you and you've definitely got grounds to suicide for IP well I was gonna actually offer if you get the second season if you want to bring that puppet to life. I will come on down.

Okay. There we go. Always Haslan for gigs. Always. Hey, you got yourself a deal. You drive a hard bargain. Thank you so much. I won't see you if you cast me.

That's a deal. Give me your job and I'm happy. Then I'll see you if you do cast me. I'm going to cast you. Thank you. But thank you for coming on. That's awesome. Do you give me a job and I'm happy. And I'll show you if you do cast me. I'm a cast you. Thank you. But thank you for coming on. We love you. Thank you so much for having me.

I love the pod and I love you guys. And I always, you know, I hear so much about how beautiful and amazing your listeners are. They are. They're the greatest listeners. They They are. They're the greatest. I've also got a podcast. Oh, yes. You got the grub that we've got the grub. That's it. You know, that's all the need to worry about that one. It's just a sketch comedy show that is done weekly. We've got a Patreon. We release monthly or bi-monthly for free episodes. There's so much on there. Check it out and it's all for free already. So it's got Greg

Larsen and Edmunds. And it's real. It's really funny. Real stupid. It's so funny. If you want smart comedy, go somewhere else. Because it is the stupidest comedy that you will ever listen to. I promise you that. That's my guarantee. But it's a bit of fun. Yeah, it is a bit of fun. So go check them out.

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so let's just see how it goes. Here we go. All right, our first fact or quote, a question this week is Austin Horst. Thank you so much, Austin. Oh, Stan. Host, who's given themselves the nickname, something witty and creative that definitely references

a previous episode. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I'm laughing knowingly, which I think is the type of laugh I would give it if it was a wish he was Oh, very good very good very good. Oh, I get it. Which is funny because I probably wouldn't Honestly, he would be asking be asked going what and then going oh, yeah, okay I think I get it because we are very forgetful people but Austin Hall

I've been saying I assume that's something we've said love it. I don't know. Yeah, yeah But Austin's given us a question this week, Jess. Great. Question is this, hi guys, hope you're well. Thank you so much. Thank you. Are we okay? Last time I asked each of you what your favourite ever live show was, was either music, comedy,

etc. Live Entertainment was one of the things that I missed most in the year that was 2020. Matt graciously answered my question saying, this is favorite, it was probably seeing cold chisel. In brackets, can't thank you enough, Matt, by the way, for introducing them to me via listen now, of course, Matt's other podcast. Unfortunately, Dave and Jess weren't with him that day, and he suggested I ask again to give them a chance to answer. Oh my God, this is perfect, because Matt's not here. This is good. It's just us. So you'll get all three answers.

And I will start off just by saying, Austin's done what we love here and answered his own question. As I said last time, my favorite show, I've been to definitely has to be the food fighters with ZZ Top coming in at a close second. Keep up the great work. Oh, it is a bit tough. I'll talk about a few actually.

Okay. I often say the best gig I've ever seen was, so maybe surprisingly, Coldplay. I feel like Coldplay have become one of those bands where people sort of like to mock them a little bit. They're kind of, they're not very cool to like, it was your favourite song, Master Scientist. Well, who could forget that I've also seen Coldplay Live

and I have to put on a fantastic show. There's been millions of dollars on the live show. Yeah. There's like confetti, there's giant bowls, there's like bubbles, there's an amazing light show. They play on multiple stages. And the show, the time I saw them them Shane Warren came out and played harmonica and No, no other band gets that no you don't get Shane Warren

So yeah, that was definitely one of the it was like probably one of the biggest like it was an arena show And a big budget arena show for that as well. So they'd be up there. But on the complete opposite end of the scale, it's no secret that Paul Kelly is, I would say my all time favorite musician. And when I was in Edinburgh in 2016, I bumped into a comedian from Melbourne who I'd been hanging out with a lot at the festival, Sonia Dioreo.

And I was like, what are you up to? What are you watching tonight? And she was like, I'm going to go see this show. And then I've got to get to Paul Kelly later. I was like, Paul Kelly. Paul Kelly. Yeah. And I thought that must have been a comedian who shares the name.

Or, you know, the Edmonds Green should be. Probably an English person. Yeah. Yeah. And she was like, no, no, no, Paul Kelly's here. He's doing a gig in the Spiegel tent. So I got a ticket It was 15 pounds It's so cheap and then I saw Paul Kelly and it was just him on stage for like 90% of it

He brought out his nephew Dan to do a couple of songs with him But it was just Paul Kelly in the Spiegel tent in and I was like, what is happening? This is the best. And he didn't expect it. That's amazing. Yeah, I didn't know he was in the country. If I knew, I would have 100% already had tickets, but I managed to get one and and see him and it was it was absolutely awesome. And then saw him a few years later in Brisbane with like full band and it was absolutely epic as well. That was one of the best nights of my life seeing him in Brisbane. So I'd say Colway and Paul Kelly,

but I've been very lucky to see some pretty great stuff. What about you, Dan? Well, for me, it's also like a memory-based one because it met so much to me at the time. So when I was only 15 years old, my favorite band, it's still one of my favorite old-time bands, Death Cab For Cutie came out, but they only played an 18 plus show.

And what I did was I got my sister's friends ID and he had the same haircut as I did, a bit of an emo fringe type thing going on. And despite being 15 and I looked very young at 15. You still do, yeah. So at 15 you probably looked about eight. Seriously, it's like, and I went to my two sisters friends that I hadn't met before, but she said, oh, they're going, you can go with them.

We caught the train in, we lined up at the forum theatre. And I knew that if I got knocked back, they're going, you can go with them. We caught the train in. We lined up at the forum theater. And I knew that if I got knocked back, they were just gonna go in and then I was just gonna have to go home on my own or whatever. And I was freaking out, felt so sick. And the guy just looks at my ID and goes, yep,

sure, go in. And I'm just like, yeah! Yes! It was so great. And yeah, they were really awesome. And the forum is my favorite Melbourne venue. So, favorite band. at my favourite venue, playing when I'm 15 and not supposed to be there,

that's my favourite one, yeah. And I still have, and I'm pretty sure. I wear it as pajamas now around the house, but I still have, and I'm showing Jess over Zoom, the jumper that I bought at that gig 15 years ago. That's, and it just happened to be right next to you. Yeah, I've got it right, yeah. In case I got cold on this on this record

Yeah, that's great Another one that I think of a bit too is when you me and Matt went to see Father John Misty Oh, that was great. He was playing at the Melbourne Recital Centre That was already a great gig. I've seen Father John like three times. That was an amazing gig Melbourne Recital Centre is obviously designed for music. Yes gig. I've seen Father John like three times. That was an amazing gig. Melbourne Recycled Centre is obviously designed for music. Yes, I got acoustics are gorgeous. A multi-multimillion dollar performance space, yeah. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's not like you're not like in a stadium designed for soccer or football. It's like four music, which is awesome. It's gorgeous.

And so that was already a great gig. I think that was the first time I'd seen him live But supporting him was this at the time unknown up and come up It was just her on the stage of the guitar and I remember Like making a note of her name because her voice was so beautiful and I got home I'm googling Angie McMahon. I'm trying to find the song that she was singing that really caught my attention. And it wasn't released, it wasn't anywhere yet. And then, you know, a few months later, it's popping up on Triple J, and she's going on to have this huge career. She's doing really great things. She's touring all over the world. But just, I just happened to see her and connect

with her voice and with one song. And now she's also one of my all-time favorites. So that was pretty cool too. That is really cool. What a great question. Great question. Thank you so, so much, Austin. We love that.

I also saw this as a side note. I also saw the two fighters once a long time ago. But probably my favorite part of the gig was the opening act was Tenacious D, Jack Black and Carl Gass. And I love them. So that was awesome. They- That'd be so good. Because they famously friends with Dave Grohl and the guy. So it was cool that they just brought him along for the gig. That's great. So that was awesome. Thanks Austin. All right, our next factor quote, a questioner is Jeremy Swade. What a name. It's so smooth. That's so good.

Yeah. Jeremy Swade. What are you looking at here? I'm zoomed in too much. No. I zoomed in too much on that little document. Oh, she's got it. Jeremy Swade's nickname as well as looking for,

and it is executive do-go-on ambassador to the Golden State of California. Oh, wow, an important joke. Love that. Great state. We have actually a fact from Jeremy Sweat, and it looks like it is a California in fact. Makes sense. Okay. The fact is, you tell me whether this is fun or not, California is home to the largest tree in the world.

It's name is... Oh, that's fun. And it has a name. The name is Jenny calling it. I jumped in too soon. General Sherman. It is. I know what Jess is laughing. It's 2200 years old and it lives in Sequoia National Park. It's nearly 275 feet or nearly 84 meters tall and has a circumference of 102 feet or 31 meters. Shit, that's... Old, was it?

2,200 years old. Get the fuck out! That's not how! Yeah, that's amazing. Did trees just live forever? If we leave them alone, Did trees just live forever? If we leave them alone, do they just live forever? Why am I imagining trees have like a lifespan? Well, I think a lot... No, a lot of them do. Yes, and then they just fall over, right?

A lot of them do. Okay, yes. While that is an incredibly fun fact. There's a picture of it to be on look it up It is it's it's that's a big big boy That's a fantastic fact. Thank you so much for sharing that with us. That is right up my alley. That's fun Love that thanks Jeremy Swade keep it up California. I will be there one day Another person I believe is who was residing in

California is our next fact-quitter question who we have met before and that is Nesta Giharu. Nesta. Thanks Nesta, the best. But that's not unique name this week according to yourself. It is designated person on deciding strange facts. Okay, okay. Okay, great. Because that doesn't feel like my forte.

I can't do strange. Yeah, so you're fun, Matt's grim, I think I'm dull and maybe now Nesta is strange. So, strange. I wish, why didn't I get strange? I'm so stupid. Yeah, you could give yourself something else if you don't want to do dull facts, lame ones,

but it's up to you. All right, we've got a question from Nesta though. First of all, I feel like we don't ask this enough, but how are all of you? There is another question coming up, but just quickly, we're doing pretty good for personal context. Melbourne has gone into at least a week long lockdown after the re-emergence of the virus here, so we're all bunkering down and hoping to get on top of it before it spreads any further. Yeah, I got back into the state just in time.

Yeah, before lockdown. I had a nice holiday and rushed back over the border before lockdown started. And I, you know, we're recording Santa Frider, I had the weekend off to attend a good friend's wedding, which will not be going ahead. So to be quiet, honestness, to feel and feel and flat for a bunch of reasons, but Melbourne's done this many, many times as have so many other parts of the world. So we're not complaining, but you know, it's just we're weary. Yes, that's right.

That's right. But a hot dog, I bought some Lego. I'm going to play the Sims. Everything will be fine. Well, that's fun. That's right. But hopefully I bought some Lego. I'm gonna play the Sims everything I'll be fine. Well, that's fun. What Lego did you get? Well, I wanted to get like a Jurassic World one where you made a little You made like a little Jeep kind of car and I could go Yeah, I was like let's just get this pack and then we can be more creative because you can make whatever you want So we just got some like

generic Lego, which is still fun and it has a little book in it so it still has, I can still follow some instructions which comes my anxious brain. Love that. That's a bit of a win-win, but if we enjoy this, I'm getting the Jurassic World little Jeep. Yeah, that sounds like a good one.

I'm with you, I support that all the way. All right, we actually have a follow up question from'm with you. I support that all the way. All right. We actually have a follow up question from Nestor, which is, here's my question. If you could replace any single arm or leg with a bionic one, which would you replace? Why would you replace it? And what cool things would it do? And he's also answered it? So you only have one though.

Oh, great. It's an arm or a leg. So I'll read this out where you think about your answer. To answer my own question, mine would be my left arm. I'd like to look like buckies from the Marvel movies. Do you know who's bucky? Yeah, buckies are winter-salt or drop. Oh, I hate it very, great.

Bucky Barnes, he is Captain America's best friend. And spoilers, he starts off as a bad guy because he's been brainwashed and then has a bit of a knock to the head, oh he's a good guy again. Oh, okay. Thank you for that. And he's cool, and his arm is pretty sick.

Yeah, and this is as cool design, I'd like for it to do all the cool bionic arm stuff, like super strength, shooter grappling hook, pick door locks and hack security stuff, but it's most important feature where it'd be to extend just a few inches to scratch the spot in the middle of my back that's always just a bit out of reach. She is the y'all, hope to see you in the state soon

for the worldwide do-go-on tour. You are speaking my language, my friend. Yes. I just extend a little bit. I don't want to show off here, but I think that I have either unusually long arms or something because I can cover, there's no part on my back, I can't cover. You've never needed somebody else's

to scratch you back for you. No, I can even sunscreen my own back. That's crazy. I mean, I can't really show you. You don't need anybody else. That's right, exactly. I'm happy as I am on my own. That being said, if I could replace

one of these limbs with bionic one, it would be my left leg and then just so I could do surprising things like people wouldn't expect me to be able to kick the ball really far or something but like I'll keep kicking like the length of me into like two football fields or like if we're doing triple jump, the hop the step and the jump, the hop at the start, people would be like, holy shit. Yeah, yeah. Basically, it's athletics. Do our bionic limbs still look like, like, can people tell it's a bionic limb? Does that make sense?

I want my legs to just look the same as they are now. Because I think I want to go leg as well. I was going to say, right, um, but now I'm thinking right leg, the reason being, I am left footed and I don't want to, like, be kicking the footy with friends and accidentally kick it into space. That's exactly what I do.

So I do want to do. That's what I want to do. Yeah, but I'll have a right leg please so I can jump very high. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, right arm. I want right arm. Okay. Change my mind. And what are you doing in that room? Yeah, I want like strength, and I want to be able to like hold on to a van, high speeds, and just be dangling there. Can't do the leg. No. If you can't grip, if you can, something's gone horribly wrong. You're gripping on with your toes. Yeah, exactly right.

So I'm going to say, right arm, please. I don't want to have to re-loan how to write with my left hand when you buy on a can. Right arm, please. Lock it in. Great answer. I love it. Thanks, Nesta.

And Fata One is from Jai Smith. Right arm, please. Lock it in. Great answer. I love it. Thanks, Nesta. Question. Fada 1 is from Jai Smith. Jai's nickname here is Hid of Bid Uncense. Hid of Bid Uncense. Hold on. Does that, is that supposed to sound like something in I sound foolish? Is that what the joke is here? Hid of Bid.

It could be head of bed. I don't know what to say. Hit of bed as sense. Is there give away in the question? OK, good one, good one, good one. Question. Hailing from Sydney, there is a clear discernible American-ish accent from inner-city Melbourne people,

including your podcast friends, specifically Adam Kahnovale and Joel Zamont? But also, with the cast page to a less degree, and Joel Dusha slides in and out. In brackets. Okay, so it's a Sans Pants accent. In brackets, I heard it was weird. Finally, enough, the three of you don't have it. My question is, am I crazy? Does this exist?

Do you hear it? No, I hear Sydney accent being a Melbourneian who lives with a New South Welshman. And I hear it in my New South Wales colleagues. I wonder, I wish there were some examples here for, I know you probably can give us a couple from the other way around but from the from the Sandspan people, Sandspan people, I wonder what American-ish stuff they're doing. Yeah, yeah, okay, it might be harder, ours, and stuff like that.

Every now and then, can you hear that sometimes? Right. So Australia doesn't have a huge range of accents. It's pretty subtle, nuanced things that can indicate where somebody is from. Western Australia and South Australia is more of the Queen's English, so it's dance and France and stuff like that. Whereas in the East we tend to say dance and France. But what I hear in New South Wales is and it's very subtle, but in words that have like an Ea, they really pronounce the a, so ideal, meal, stuff like that.

It's subtle and it's not, I'm exaggerating a little bit to sort of give an example, but I hear it a lot and I'm like, wow, whereas I think we say it a bit flatter, it's not ideal. They'd say ideal, ideal. All right, okay. Yeah. How interesting. I must say I have not noticed it with the sandspans people. No, me either. But now we'll have to look out for it. It must be a sandspans accent. Bunch of freaks. Yeah. Too funny. Widows. Thanks for packing weirdos. Maybe other people have heard it and they can get in contact with us on our Twitter or something. Let us know. Is Jai crazy? Is his question? Does this exist? Does that make me crazy? That's Jai. I don't know, Jai.

Thank you for your question, Jai. I appreciate it. Thanks to all those beautiful people. Now it's time to shout out to even more beautiful people that support us on Patreon at patreon.com slash do go on pod. These people have been waiting patiently for a shout out and we use it come up with a little game. Your thing jest is to come up with something to do with the episode. Obviously it was cultish that we could shout out and assign these people. We are naming their cults. Love it. Great good stuff. Easy. And none of these cults, just to preface it,

none of them resulted in anybody being assaulted, injured, killed. Right, nothing. Do they all involve lots? They're all nice cults. Lots and lots of our consensual groups X. Not all of them know. Oh, okay.

Interesting. First I've ever heard of that. I will tell you which ones, which ones will. Fantastic. It's most. It is most, but not all. It is most, but not all, but it is most. It's a bit stress.

It's a bit stress. Yeah, to be fair, that's right. We're looking at it. We're batting at a 99.99% here, but there are some that aren't. Do you mind if I kick off with some names? Please. I would love to thank from Gothenburg or Gotterborg in Sweden,

which is very, very cool to have your support all the way from over there. Mikael Medin. Mikael Medinians. Oh, the Medinians. That's, I mean, honestly, that sounds more like something I'd join than Rayleigh. Yeah, the Medinians really, the key things are studying geography,

making cups of tea and heaps of consensual sex, yes, they are one of theual sex. Yes, they are. Yes, they are. One of the sexiest ones. Fuck you. Warm up with a bit of map reading. We'll name some capital city. Yeah, and have a cup of El Grey and then bang, close off.

Yeah, exactly. Perfect. Thanks, Michele. I would also like to thank now from a Burbank in California. Cameron Monahan. What about, Ra? Cameron Monahan. The about, Cameron Monahan. The cam cam. Thank you. Fam family.

That's great. Cameron also has the same spelling of Monahan as my family. So I think Cameron is my cousin. I will not be partaking in the consensual sex. Right. You want to keep the cam cam.

Thank you, fam. You want to keep the cam cam cam, thank you fam. You want to keep it in the cam cam cam, but I'm not the real fam. Exactly right. And yeah, so they are again, consensual sex, a big part of it. No, it's like a medium part of it. It's not the main thing, but it's like a bonus.

They are in two, protein smoothies. Oh wow. Power lifting. Wow, a strong cult. Oh wow. Powerlifting. Wow, it was strong cult. Hand cream. They make it, they sell it, they use it. That's right. So one hand, side of the hand is really soft. The other hand is callous and ready to grip. But the other hand, beautiful, supple, gorgeous, gorgeous. Thank you, Cameron. Thanks, Ken. I would like to thank now from Miss a Saga in Canada. Sarabi Pradhan or Pradhan? Sarabi Pradhan. Sarabi. So there's something good in Sarabi.

The... What about like... I mean, I don't want to just say Sarabian's, but it's very good. Yeah, Sarabian. Sarabili. Yep. I'll save you there, Jess. I'm not sure if in Canada, this means something. What about Sarabis Barbie? They have lots of barbecues.

They all, they made outdoors cook meat together before the inevitable group said. Before the group said. Intense, but nobody's allowed to film it. No outsiders, you can't if you're into it. But that lady was such a perv. But then called them purrs. It's like they're just having sex.

Yeah, come on, you're filming it like. It's not a big deal. like, they're just having sex. Yeah, come on, you're filming it like. It's not a big deal. Yeah, you're weed-o. So, Sarabi's Barbie, so they love our barbequeing and they all wear not chef hats, but they all wear like hats made out of folded newspapers. Yeah, but cool. Like that, yeah, cool stuff.

Like a really good, they're very good at origami, but they only make hats. And I want to stress as well that the barbecues are not like... When people say, come over for a barbie and you just have like plain cold sausages and like a shitty potato salad and that's it. These ones are like really nice meats, cooked well, the salads and vegetables and sides and stuff are really... Like they love good food but it is

all cut outdoors. Gorma, gourmets stuff. Obviously difficult during a Canadian winter but they are dedicated people. They figured out they barbecue inside a lot in kitchens. Oh, so yeah. Wow. Yeah. They're weird over there, aren't they? They've been on a map of the UNID side. On your sorribing, thank you so much. Next up, I'd like to thank, yeah, traveling the world at the moment, from Munster in Denmark,

I would like to thank, no, not Denmark, Deutschland, is the DEA, I believe. It's a mini, yeah. Is this the Deutschland is the dear belief. Germany, yeah. Is this the Monster Rebellion? Yeah, I think so. Oh, I could be wrong. I know I'm an idiot. No, I would be a weird coincidence. I very much think it is.

And the listener of note is Tom Quinders. Oh my God. Tom Quinders. Winders. That's a fantastic name, Tom. Congratulations on a great name. There's something in like, quinder,

quinder kind. It is a cult for children. No sex in this one. This is one of the very few with sex. Definitely has sex. That's why I said most, but not all. Zero sex in this one. This is one of the very few with the sex. Definitely yes, this is one of the most said but not all. Yeah. Zero sex in this one. Thank God. Because it's especially for like a young age group.

So we're talking the year three to ten. And they focus mostly on shapes, colors, numbers, basic language skills. It's a school, it's a school essentially. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's pretty fun. That's a pretty fun cult.

Hey, Tom Quinders, you're doing God's Work with the Kids over in one stuff. Love that. Yeah. And finally for me, I'd like to thank from Port McCwory here in Australia. I'd like to thank Jacob Gaskell. Jacob Gaskell. The Gas killers. Yeah, I was gonna say the last name is Gas Kill written down.

Gas killers. I mean, you did say there was no violence in these cults, so is that just a name or? It is just a name. Yes, what they're actually doing is they do quite a lot of research and practical testing in eliminating farts. They are trying to kill the gas.

They are, honestly, I can say, that's God's work. It's a tough task, but somebody had to take it on, but it's not all they do. They do have a bit of fun. They have a series of different social clubs. You can also join as well. Bowling, you can play polo, and then of course the mass-concentral sex. Of course, sorry. Sorry, is that when you signing up to something? I've got the clipboard out and you're like,

sorry, what? Was that last one? Yeah. Bowling? Was it you signing up to something? I've got the clipboard out and you're like, sorry, what? Or was that last one? Yeah. Are bowling? Was it, you aren't going to repeat it? Pottery? Was that the one you're interested in? Have a gander at this list, see what you think.

Thank you, Jacob, for trying to kill the gas. May I thank some people as well? Please. I would love to thank from Salt Lake City. Oh, yeah. Anna, done. Anna, done. What's Anna done?

Bit of fun. What? It probably doesn't have to be based off the name. Although in Salt Lake City, they probably don't call toiletsannies, so we could do something with that I guess. What about the meatball subs? Oh, okay. Salt Lake City in Utah, Utah, give me two. Two.

Meatball. Meatball, you want a couple of sandwiches, so they call the meatball subs and despite the name, they do not have oranges ever. No, they've got enough orange juice. They've got enough. If you haven't seen Point Break, this is making absolutely no sense to you, and I've done.

It's definitely. Despite that, big fan of subs, hoagies, sandwiches, pro boys, all sorts of sandwich hamburgers. But that's all they eat. Yes, they only eat bread-based hand food. Yeah. And they love Keanu Reeves.

He is basically their God. And they like to do a guided meditation, which is accompanied by a slide show, which is just pictures of Keanu Reeves. And then mass-concentral sex, yeah. Yeah, of course. Of course. If that's not going to get you in the mood, I do not know what is. Keanu has been invited, but is yet to turn up to one of the assessments. Yeah. But open invitation, open invitation. Yeah, yeah.

Thank you so much to Anne Done. Thank you, Anna. And from an undisclosed location, probably because we've met this person, I believe, and he's been all over the place. I would love to thank Moritz, Ramuta, Ramata. I think that Moritz and Pramutus, however, always said it, but is that right?

Mermutus, yeah, you're probably right. I'm not sure. Marits Wee met in Sydney and where else? I've got to go. I've got to go. I'm in the UK. I'm trying to report. I'm so sorry, Marits.

What about... Oh, Brisbane. Brisbane, anyway. Yes. What about Marits Mermutus Yes. What about Meritz Remuda? Is the leader of the Remuda Triangle? Ooh, that's very good. Sounds good. And so Meritz is one of three leaders.

He's the top point of the triangle, but he has two underlings who just kind of handle Admin. They're like the vice principals. Two of us. Two of us. One for like students, one for admin and yeah, what are they, what are they kind of into? They only triangle foods. Yes, yes, the most. Pizza, sandwich, just kind of triangle, yes.

Pizza. What are the most of triangle foods? most yes. Pete, what else was the triny boys? Tiny boys, those... You're so exciting. I was trying to find that. Oh, I mean, you've got a whole day there, like toast, triangular's for breakfast. You've got some roses for lunch. And then for dessert, you've got a sunny boy. What else do you need? Yeah.

No, you're... And then you're going to have cheesecake. You're going to have almost any cake, because you do tend to cut cake into trouble. Yes, exactly. Lots of cake and then of course lots of sex in groups of three, the holy Trinity. Exactly right. Exactly right. And a pretty balanced diet there.

So that's pretty impressive. Thank you. Yeah, but honestly, it's picking off a lot of the watermelon slices. There you go. Yeah, but honestly, it's taking off a lot of the watermelon slices. There you go. Yeah, yum. From Melbourne, in Victoria, someone we see a lot at our live shows and we love to see him. Sam Crumbi.

Ah, yes, Sam Crumbi, a great supporter of the live stuff. Thank you so much for coming to our show, Sam. I didn't realize, actually, when we met Sam, that he was a cult leader, but obviously he is. Yeah. He's not flashy about it, and that's what I like. Yeah, that's right. Sam's cult is of course called the Crombi van, and they are really into, like, they tinker with old cars. Oh, okay.

In a religious way. Yeah, they do. In a religious way. They say, Thank thee, the tinkerer, our Lord and Savior, for tinkering with the vehicle of life, and getting under the hood. I don't really.

They're gonna be a baby's sing. Well, Ledy, just it does sound a little bit like Sam just runs a mobile mechanic business out of his van. Is that what's going on here? No! You don't get it. I don't think I get it. It's essentially like a, it's, you know, it was born out of a support network for people

who never learnt how to fix their car. Hey. What it became is so much more. They... They... Sure, they tinker under their car. Hey. What it became is so much more. On pre- Sure, they tinker under their car. They sing songs around bonfires and they fuck. In the back of a van. What do you think we're doing up the van?

It's my shaggin' wagon. Why are they all covered in leather? It's a bit of fun. Thank you very much. Thanks Sam. Did you Sam? Thanks Sam. Sorry about that. It's a bit of fun. Thank you very much. Thanks Sam. Can you Sam? Thanks Sam, sorry about that. Sorry to all these people by the way. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I would love to thank from Springwood in New South Wales, Leila Booth. Okay, Leaila booth. I'm really hoping you got something because my brain's just got nothing. Okay, they're called,

ain't that the booth? Yes! And they can't... It's very... This is actually what inspired Laya Laya. They can only tell the truth. Oh, that's great. That is actually good.

At the end of the day, that's... Yeah, but they only tell the truth. Yeah, but they only tell the truth. But if they tell a lie, they tell is they say, ain't that the booth? And you go, you just lied to me. No, you lied. You just lied?

You lied? Because they're sort of, it's like they're getting off from a technical gallery. They're not saying that the truth. They're saying that the booth. And that the booth. Okay, well now I know you're lying. Yeah, exactly.

One people found out. Yeah, but their outfit is tell. It's very difficult to lie after that. Yeah. Okay, well now I know your life. Yeah, exactly. Once people found out. Yeah, the very obvious tell. It's very difficult to lie after that. Ha ha ha. I love that. What else do they do though? They don't lie, but they do lie down. Yeah, they're close to pools.

They love to just sunbathe around the pool. Very big on vitamin Ds. Very big on. They love vitamin D and they do not have sex. They don't have sex. They hate the vitamin D in other ways. Yeah, they love their vitamin D and they do not have sex. They don't have sex, they hate the vitamin D in other ways. Yeah, they love their vitamin D from the sun. They hate the vitamin D from men.

Get out of here. That's what they say. Get out of here, man. Sorry, Laila, if you were really desperate to be a leader of a sexy cult, but you know, you started it. Yeah, that's right. And that's the point. That's right.

And, but finally, I would love to thank and Dave, I might need help on a bunch of these words. I'm looking ahead for you. All right, where are we from, Jess? From walk again. Let's say walk Egan. I walk Egan here in Illinois. Illinois walk Egan Illinois. Yes. Good stuff. I would love to thank Kelly.

What? What cults? I reckon what cults? Kelly what cults from what cults? What cults? King Egan Illinois. It's a double h, you don't see a double H that often. No, I enjoy it though. It's great to see.

Is there something you can do with that? Colt-wise, double H. Ah, you may have heard. I mean, her name is What Colts. I'm sure there's something here. There's something in it. Something called Related. What Colts? What Colts? Oh, okay. What Colts? and then it's something called related. Weak holds, what cults? Oh, okay. Weak holds. It's called Weak holds.

It is a charity designed to bring together all cults. Yes, great. And raise awareness for cults. Bring it, and bring about like the super. Even of itself, it is a cult. Yeah, exactly. Hey, I want to get you out of your cult and into my much larger cult. Yeah, I want to make other people aware of both your cult and my cult.

And so what they do is a lot of admin, a lot of door to door, sort of fundraising or awareness. And then after a long day of just charity work they get together and they have mass concentric. That's right. They have a very long-listed beliefs because anything goes, they believe in everything and they also have sex. So they are both very open to people of all genders and identities but at the same time very

conservative. That's right. Hey. It's a very confusing call. Everything goes here. Everything goes. What calls? You can love or hate whoever you want to. Hey, you hate?

I also hate him. I hate him. Good on you. So yeah, there you go. Bit of fun, isn't it? So sorry, Kelly. Thank you so much once again to Mikhail Cameron, Sarabi, Tom Jacob, Anna Moritz, Sam, Laila, and Kelly.

Well, with that section of the show done, there's only one thing left to do, and that's the check if anyone's coming into the trip ditch club, which is people that have been on the show at level, or above for three consecutive years. And looking ahead, there is a few names to induct this week. We've got one, two, three, four, five.

Yeah, there's six. Six, wow. What happens is we've formed a little club called the Triptage Club, which is basically like it's a bar, a lounge, it's a venue, a place where you can... A cult. Yes, honestly, it sounds very cult-like. Yeah.

But we have drinks, we have all derves, we have live music this week, and just who? Or what food will we be dining on this week? Well, what's a cult if not a club? And we're all members of that club because we have a club sandwich. Yes, it's beautiful, also triangle-based, so everyone can eat those. Yes, it's beautiful. Also triangle based. So everyone can eat those.

Yes. Everyone's happy. Drinks wise, we are having a Rayleigh and special, which is somehow, and you are not allowed to ask, it is silver. And it's a silver liquid and it is also triangular, served in a very strange triangular glass and it does not taste good but it will give you telepathic powers for approximately four hours. So that's pretty rad. That sounds amazing. And whilst you have the telepathic powers, the band that will be joining Stunt is of course an alien ant farm. Of course.

We'll be playing such hits as Michael Jackson's Smooth Criminal and... And here you're okay, you're okay, you're okay, Eddie. Just about that will be the only song they've played. But honestly, we'll all know the words by the end of the night, looking forward to that. Okay, how are we gonna do this in terms of hyping it? I think we just, I think we both just have to connect and go completely mental and just thank a bunch of people and just hype the shit out of it.

What do you reckon? Okay, let's just both hype. We're both usually Matt reads it out, I hype, just hype's me, but honestly, let's just hype. You're right. Let's just get his own. I'm gonna rate him. You're gonna, like, we're just gonna, we're just gonna go for it, okay? Okay, all right, here we go. Here we go. Welcome me. We're leaving the Velvet Road. Welcome me. And honestly, these people are in the club forever. Sorry. Yes. All the famous. From Muggy in New South Wales, Kirsty, or...

Or Kirsty or Bars, am I right? Yes, Kirsty for life. We're also like to say, from Mosman in New South Wales, Dominic O'Kelly. Dominic O'Kelly, you Mosman, more man, am I right? Yes. Yes, you are more man than we deserve Dominic O'Cali. We also love to thank from Edinburgh, Tom Gray. Oh, the skies were gray before you turned up,

but now they are clear blue, baby. Tom Gray's in the house. I would also love to thank from Moscow, Paige McPhilly. I'm not feeling is an incredible name. I'm McFeely, you're good. Now you're here, page. Yes, so good. From Oslo, I would love to thank Oystein Espadel.

This is a tricky one. Do something with Oslo. Yeah, I was feeling Oslo, but now I'm feeling Oslo. Hi. Thank goodness. Do you have something with Oslo? Yeah, I was feeling Oslo, but now I'm feeling Oslo! Hi! Thank goodness. Honestly, that felt like the greatest cake. And from Buffalo in New York, I would love to thank Elijah Jimmison. He's my Buffalo soldier, Elijah!

Yes! Well done, Dave. Well done. Thank you so much for all those people. I hope you've been enjoying your food, your psychedelic drinks, and of course the music of Alien Ant Farm tonight. You're welcome for that. Yeah, enjoy.

I've just looked up Alien Ant Farm their discography their first album came at 1999 it's called greatest hits that's funny that's pretty funny that is good is that they first and only album no actually because the one after that I believe is the one that had the Michael Jackson cover it's called anthology okay and they've actually had a few since 2015's their most recent album called Always and Forever. That's nice. Good for them. Oh, but unfortunately they will only be playing the from their greatest hits first album. Confusingly enough in 2008, they released an album called 20th Century Masters, the Millennium collection, the best of Alien and Phelps. Like, they are baffling.

Because the first time's got greatest hits. Where do you go to from there? Yeah, it's a good point. On you guys, we can't wait to have them out rocking to club. Ha, ha, ha. But yeah, that is it for another amazing episode of Djugu. What if I may say so myself?

I think that was just a bit of fun. Of course, Matt will be joining us next week. And I'll be the first time in a few weeks that I believe that we're all together. Yeah, hopefully, I mean. Well, hopefully anyway, yes, that's not, that's cross those fingers. Don't jinx it, you idiot.

Ooh. But yes, we'll all be on the episode. Yeah, that's right. We've had a couple of weeks where it's just been on the only consistent member these days. Yeah, that's right. You've had a couple of weeks where it's just been up on the only consistent member these days. Yeah, Dave, you always have been. To be sure.

I have missed two episodes about five years ago. There was a period where I missed two. Do you have the missed two? Yeah. Bloody hell, I'm really dropping. You guys need to take holidays. You guys need to take br. You guys need to take brides. Remember them? No. Well that would be nice. Anyway I'm gonna go

sit in my house for a week. So I'm really busy must must go. You can find us as always on all social medias at do go on pod. You can contact us at do go on pod at gmail.com and do go on pod.com is our website where you'll find links to merch and how to suggest a topic and that'll be in the show notes as well. Yeah, but I think that's about it. Dave, you have to say goodbye first because I have to say it last. So, okay. So, thank you so much once again and until next week, also thank you for listening and goodbye! Loaders, bye! I didn't manage. Sealous. Yeah, nobody on my ears though. This episode is brought to you by Progressive.

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