Two In The Think Tank - 297 - The Wizard of Oz: From Fairytale to Hollywood Nightmare

Episode Date: June 30, 2021

The Wizard of Oz (1939) is an all time family classic, but its filming was a pretty awful time for the cast and crew! In this episode we go back to the origins of L Frank Baum's story (1900), talk about the original stage production (1902) and go through the cursed 1939 production before discussing how the film became a classic. Enjoy!Get a ticket to our 300th episode live stream, Saturday July 10: https://sospresents.com/programs/dogoon-300th Get a ticket to our show at the Great Australian Podcast Festival on Nov 6: https://www.livenation.com.au/greataustralianpodcastfestivalFor tickets to Matt's Live Taping at Stupid Old Studios (and shows in Adelaide and Brisbane): https://www.mattstewartcomedy.com/ Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodBuy tickets for our screening of The Mummy on September 10: https://www.lidocinemas.com.au/mummyBuy tickets to our streamed shows (there are 16 available to watch now! All with exclusive extra sections): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Check out Matt’s Beer show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej4TUguJL58 Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates:... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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No, Matt Stewart. Stop. It's so good to be here, Dave. Hey, I'm so excited to be here. We've got a report coming up soon, but before we do that, we've got a couple of shows coming up. We are back out there, and the first one is accessible anywhere in the world. We are doing our 300th episode, and we are live streaming it right here

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probably about a week, and they research a topic, they write up a cute little report about it, they bring it back to the other two, who politely listen, but often interrupt with tangents. And we always start with the question. This week, it is Matt's turn to do a report. Matt, what is your question? My question is according to the American film Institute what is perhaps the most famous

and best loved fantasy film ever made? Oh okay when you say fantasy, sexual fantasy? Yeah, the film is Dave Warnicky doing a quiz in front of the pub. That's my fantasy. What was the best love? Best loved, most famous and best loved fantasy film ever made. But I like how they put in perhaps but also it's like and the Academy Award for best loved fantasy film goes like it's so not specific what I mean you think it could be a cult classic kind of thing but I mean it's it's beyond cult

classic it really broke through to the mainstream am I gonna know it? Ah yes but I mean it's true so I'm out of what is What is some fantasy coming to think in? Star Wars. It's not Star Wars. Fantasy. Then I was thinking, what are the rings? It's not a lot of the rings. I just remember we've already done Star Wars.

Yeah, we've also done Tolkien. Oh yeah, right. And then I was thinking, don't so many now. Then I was thinking, here's your guide to the galaxy and you've done that on Bookcheek. Fantasy, fantasy. This is also book related Dave. So there is a movie from a book. and you've done that on Bookcheek. Fantasy, fantasy.

This is also book related, Dave. So there is a movie from a book. Oh, is it June? Possibly the worst film I've ever seen. No, that's a month, Dave. We're talking film. Bit of fun there. There's a wizard in it.

Harry Potter. All right, Matt, where are they from? They're from a magical land. It sort of sounds like a shortening of Australia. Fertasia? All right come on one of you help me out here. The Wizard of Ozzy. I'm gonna have to pay just there, but I really feel like me. There's a deserved point.

The Wizard of Ozzy. Leaving me out. Oh, I'm hanging the dry. How early on did you know what I was talking about there? You fuckos. No, I genuinely didn't get it. Now I feel like an idiot. Of course. Wizard of Oz. Wizard of Oz, love it.

Oh, that film that perhaps is the best love? Perhaps the most famous and best love. Fantasy film. I was gonna ask for like, give me a year. And that I reckon I would have got that. Yeah. I'll tell you. Give me a year.

Yeah. What year is it? 1939. Wow. Wow. Great things happen that year. Oh, the start of a lot of big things. A lot of big and much loved.

Oh my God. What was the most famous and best love event to happen in 1939? Fantasy event. We got it. Very important. So this was suggested by multiple people as you'd probably expect. Billy in England, Hannah White from Orange in Australia, Sandy Tyre from Ballarat, so in Australia, Megan Castle or Castle from Guthrie, oh, Clahoma in the United States. Is it a door, La Rat, or La Rai, from Paris, France, or Paris, François?

Ha ha ha! Top Murray from Melbourne, Australia. Hillary, McCay, from Wellington, New Zealand, and Tristan Thornton from London, England. That's a great list of people. So the movie from 1939 was based on one of the most popular children's books ever written. The wonderful Wizard of Oz. So I'll start the story there. The original book written by Elle Frank Bourne.

Am I saying there I dove? I think it's Baum! Baum! Baum! Baum! Chica Waum! Baum! Was published in May of 1900 with illustrations by WWW.

No, sorry, WWW Denzlou. I thought, because I didn't know, I've never read the book. No. And I've always been jealous of Dave summarizing books. So I thought, different a Dave though, I haven't read it, but I will still summarize it by reading from Britannica. Okay. Right, so the people source.

Yes. You know, do you know people can do that, Dave, is they can just look up synopsis and books? I say that is what you do, right? You don't actually read these books. I'm often thought, if I just copy and paste it one, would anyone call me out on it? Probably not.

Probably not. But I live in fear. And so I read the books, you fuck. Well, people who don't know Dave does a podcast, spin off podcasts from a show called Bookcheat, where he reads the classics, so you don't have to highly recommended. We maybe one day you'll do the Wizard of Oz

and you'll summarize it probably better and more depth than this isn't a few paragraphs. Well, this is going to be embarrassing when people realize I do just copy and paste a pretend. You do release an episode to have the track that just starts now. Welcome to Booksheet. I'm going to throw it over to Matt this time. Okay, so this is from Britannica.

Dorothy is a young girl who lives in a one-room house in Kansas with the care-worn Uncle Henry and aunt M. The joy of her life is a dog toto a sudden cyclone strikes and by the time Dorothy catches Toto she is unable to reach the storm cellar There are still they are still in the house when the cyclone carries it away for the long journey When at last the house lands Dorothy finds that carries it away for the long journey. When it lasts the house lands, Dorothy finds that she is in a beautiful land inhabited by very short, strangely dressed people. They're about her height, so very short as in child height, and that's everyone. In the movie, there's, everyone's got different heights, but in the book,

it's a little fun difference. I think it would actually be quite unnerving to land somewhere else and everyone's the same height. Exactly the same. Oh yeah. Like, there's three of us, similar-ish, Matt's quite a bit tall than us, but you know, like, it's not crazy. He's not a huge difference.

Everyone's the same. What's going on? Very spooky. That's it. Because it's gonna take you a while to notice too. You'd be like, quits and it's quits. So it's going on? That's it. Because it's going to take you wild and odyssey. You'd be like, quits and it's quits. So hang on, I'll see you on the screen. You're going to crowd. You'd be seeing a gig or something. Oh, everyone's the same.

You're in this magical land, okay? There's witches and magic and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But everyone's the same. And then you just get out the measuring tape and you're like it's down to the millimetre This is even the hair cut No one's got an afro or anything. Yeah, it's all the same hot. No one's got curly hair. Hang on a second This is not just a short back and side. I think even the way I'm in children Are they all the clothes? That baby is the same hot as that man Yet somehow I still know it's Yeah, somehow I still know it's pretty difficult to get picked up by a mom and dad as a baby You're the same heart. Sorry Matt did I derail too early?

Do I focus on the wrong part? No, no, certainly not that's just odd isn't it also love that she's living in a one bedroom house Yeah, but they've also got the seller. Yeah, I mean just put on a room So even a one bedroom has a one room room. Yeah, just everything in one. Do you think it has a bathroom? It's got a bathroom has to be when you read this book do they mention the bathroom? No, I imagine an outhouse We're talking. I mean this was written in the late 1800s So they had one room houses, but there's also an outhouse. There's also a cellar. There's also like an out. Right, this room. They've got a cinema.

Just not connected to the house. But they also have one big bed. So when she lands, the witch of the North informs her that she is in the land of the Munchkins, who are grateful to her for having killed the wicked witch of the East, because the house had landed on the witch. People who have seen the movie will be familiar with some of these parts. Some bits are different, like in the film, I'll talk more about some of the differences later,

but in the film they don't, we don't see them which of the north. They just mush together the south and north, which is into Glinda. Do they mush her by? More physically mush her. Getting out. Planning on the mush her with a house.

LAUGHTER No, they mush half of, one is and half of the other. So the two halves that are left over form form one, but amazingly still exactly the same height. That's the real thing isn't it? So weird. In the book there's four quadrants north of east and west. Some are in the north and south are ruled by good witches and the eastern west by wicked witches. And so the north is the munchkins I think. Then there's so each one has a different like species of people or whatever. But anyway the munchkins are grateful that Dorothy

has helped kill their evil ruler, the wicked witch of the East. So that freed the munchkins. The Witch of the North gives Dorothy the Silver Shoes, interests there. What? They were Silver Shoes in the book. Yuck. And the dead witch, the Silver Shoes from the dead witch, and advises her to go to the city of Emeralds to see the great wizard of ours who might help her return to Kansas. So she's a mad at a woman and she's stolen her shoes. And then she's on a road trip. See you later.

How much do we trust this narrator? Yeah, that's... Okay, yeah, everyone was praising you for killing this evil woman. And they demand it, You take her shoes. It sounds like a terrible defense lawyer. Yep, that's what my client says. That's what I'm saying. The Witch Sands Dorothy Off along the yellow brick road

with a magical kiss to protect her from harm. A magical kiss. Yes, so in the film, the Witch Glinder does kiss her on the head, but she doesn't say this is a magical kiss to protect her from harm. Just a little nod there to the book. Oh, I see. Bit of fun.

You suppose to read into it, are you? So I was like, wow, that kiss looked pretty magical. That looked like a protective kiss. So I say, every day, I say, hey, come here, give me a magical kiss. So I don't die musically. I protect you musically. It wears off by tomorrow. Give me another one. It looks like it was, I can come in, I'll go.

I've got to start again. On the long journey to the Emerald City, Dorothy and Toto are joined by the scarecrow who wishes he had brains, the ten woodman who longs for a heart. I always thought it was the ten-man. Ten woodman. But it was the ten woodman. Ten woodman. It was like an alloy.

Yeah, well, 10 minutes with wood. So in the book, the 10 woodman, the 10 man, 10 woodman's backstory was actually... Is he still laughing? It's not a man. Yeah, 10 woodman. 10 woodman. 10 woodman. Oh, it's not a man.

10 woodman. 10 woodman. 10 woodman, stay on. 10 woodman. 10 woodman. That actually, that show was actually a call back to the Wizard of Oz. If you get it, you get it. Yeah, the three kids were like the lion and the, you know?

Yeah. Brandy was the lion. It was JJ T. That was Brandy, Dave, girl, up, mate. Sorry. I'm on first name terms with it. Well, I'm on initial name terms with it. Well, I'm on initial name terms with it. But so the 10 Woodman in the book started off as a human

and was gonna hook up with a munchkin, but the munchkin's mum or something like that or whoever, the woman that the munchkin lived with didn't want the munchkin to leave because she was lazy and that munchkin did a lot of work around the house. So she got the wicked witch to curse the tin woodman's axe, which made the axe cut off his limbs and wipe it by bit. And then a man about town Rebuilt him with tin

That's messed up. That's how the story goes in the movie. It's just though. It's a tin man Was it okay in the movie was he not a man originally or your crown? No, he was just yeah It was just a rusted out tin man. Yeah, right. That's messed up for a kid's book. Yeah, it's actually quite a bit more messed up the book than the film probably. You're like, who's the axe to hack you to pieces? Your favorite axe too, so it's gonna really sting. But I'm at years. It's a different time, and I think if you go back

to the old, a fairy tale. It's a different time that happened all the time back then. Do you know like the brothers, Graham, ones and stuff, they were, they were Graham. Yeah, they were. Will they be brothers? Yes. You would have loved it, Dave, you love a Graham. Oh no, you're the Graham fact, don't you, they were. Will they be brothers? Yes. You would have loved it, Dave, you love a grim.

Oh no, you're the grim fact, don't you, Matt? I'm a grim fact, yeah. Dave's dull. I love a dull fact. Ha ha ha. I'm the fun one. So the tin wood man, he's longer for a heart because that's the one bit that the guy putting him back together

forgot to put in him. So he had like a liver and kidney and all that stuff. Just doesn't have a heart. He had all these other organs except a hypodab brain in there. Yeah, tin brain I guess. So I think or maybe maybe he kept his original brain and I'm not sure. But the so they explained in the book a bit more why each character one of the thing needed the thing that it did in the book the scarecrow was only made the day before and they didn't put a brain in him. So he's like, I don't need a brain. I need, how I think of stuff otherwise.

And then she meets the cowardly lion who seeks courage. That one's not really explained. She goes, why don't you have courage? He's like, I don't know, just never have. Poor lion. They face many trials along their route, but they overcome them all, often because of the scarecrow's good sense, the tin woodman's kindness and the bravery of the cowardly line. At last they reach the Emerald City, where the guardian of the gates outfits them with

Greenland's glasses and leads them to the Palace of Oz. Oz tells them that no favors will be granted until the wicked witch of the West has been killed. That's how they tell the story. Yeah, this guy told us we had to kill her. She's got bloodlusts, Dorothy. She'll stop it, nothing. And also, what dead body did you steal those green glasses from?

Yeah. God, he's just like a full outfit of a bit of is the, yeah, the the end of the movie, like we start flashing back to bits and how they really happened? No! My full name is Wicked Kahn, which... I'm Wicked Kahn!

I'm Wicked, it's really cool! He's my skateboard! I'll take it all right now! I'll take it all the right now! I'll take that. The Companions head to the land of the winkeys. So that's the western quadrant is the land of the winkeys. That's full of penises. That's a little penis peep.

Are they all the same like? Yes! It's terrifying, not perfect. How do I know which one's better? I'm like, I'm moving. How do I know which one's better? I'm like, I'm moving. How do I know which one's better? Winky just sounds like something you would call a painter.

To a child. Yeah, I don't know. Did the Winky's make the movie? I don't think so. Right, really. I don't think so. But a lot of the characters got changed in the movies as well. The Munchkins all wore the same color in the book,

but in the movie they were like. Because they really wanted to make the most of the technical, are they the movie they were like, because they really wanted to make the most of the technical are they dressed them all in vibrant colors. So they headed to the land of the winkeys, ruled by the Wicked Witch of the West, the witch sends wolves, crows, bees, and armed winkeys to stop them all to no avail.

Peanuts hold the sword. Come back here. It's got a shuffle like a lot of balls. penis holding the sword come back here It's kind of shuffling on me all yeah hopping No, that's the seven walls. What's the what's the signal? Oh, we oh Is that the winkeys? Dave can you look up who sings that song in the movie? How do I look? Oh, you look like a real.

I reckon I've got that. Reference to that Metallica song. From The Simpsons? Yeah, I know, from The Simpsons. Yeah, The Simpsons references it a bit. They also reference Ding Dong, The Witch is Dead. So, Flying Monkey's at some stage as well. Yeah. Maybe a year.

Yeah, Bern sends a Flying Monkey's, but they all just, don't they just fall? I think so. That rings a bell, if not. Is it? Simpson's right as always. Oh, re-olves, oh re-olves. Oh. It's what is coming up.

And what did you Google to get that? I googled, ow, we, oh, we are, and it said, did you mean ow, we are, we are, we are, we are, are we are Wizard of Oz? Oh my god Wow some reason I thought it was all we own we oh I thought it was like a like a kind of grim thing like that all we Your we are I obviously cannot factate this because I'm just flying by the seat of my pants Sorry, I really put you better in the hot city according to film school rejects.com 29 things we learned from the seat of my pants. Sorry, I've really put you in the hot seat. According to filmschoolregex.com, 29 things we learnt from the Wizard of Oz. Country to popular. I'm not like that.

Sorry. Learn one more thing. Surely you could split one of those facts into flisticles, do it all the time. Make something kind of cute up at the end. Make number 30, like the 30th thing we learnt, a wonderful film, you know? Yeah, friendship is magic.

Fuck! They are winky guards. They are winkies, okay, great for them. I'm probably known for their infamous chant, which goes, oh, ee, ee, o, uh, yeah, that's what these people say. But then the 29 things we learned, contrary to popular belief, the chant that the guard singing outside of the witch's castle has no hidden meaning.

According to the script, it says, oh, ee, ee, o, a. Ah, it says, O-E-Y-O-A. Ah, so I've just fallen for a miss there. But I think that it feels like everyone is joining a play. I had to Google them. I don't remember what the winkeys looked like. That's a, you know, flaps. They kinda look like mini...

Oh, I've gotta hear it, man. Maybe I'm picturing sort of almost like British guards or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alright, what do you hear? Leo, Leo. Yeah, like green faces. Is that what we were thinking? Green penises? Green penises. Cup. They're all the same. Right, yeah, so. They are the winkeys, they're in answer to your question.

Right, yeah, okay. So they're the winkeys. And so we could which of the West has sent the winkeys as well as wolves, crow's and bees to stop the gang, Dorothy and the crew. So I couldn't get them with the wolves, couldn't get them with the crows, send in the bees. They get the job done. So none of that works. So she uses her golden cap to summon the winged monkeys. The winged monkeys destroy the scarecrow

and the tin woodman and cage the cowardly lion, but they bring Dorothy and Toto to the witch who enslaves Dorothy. The witch wants Dorothy's shoes, which she knows carry powerful magic. She can try to make Dorothy trip and fall so she can grab one of the shoes. She gets one of the winged monkeys

to pop down behind her. Yeah, head of the shoes. She gets one of the wing monkeys to pop down behind her. So this is a woman she's enslaved, a child she's enslaved, she can't just take the shoes off of her. I, I, I, magic's involved Dave. So sorry, Jess. How she glues them? Does he sell us down a lot? Yeah, big time. How she glues them to the sold us a bit. Yeah, magic glues. Sellies magic glue. An angered Dorothy throws a bucket of water at the witch who's then melds away to nothing. So that's kept for the film. Isn't that imagine going around being this fear ruler and a rainy day would yeah I guess

it doesn't rain there. Why are you keeping a bucket of water lying on it? Yeah, that seems like you're playing with fire. Yeah. Do you think that Puyro film, the massive Potemio one, where a woman thinks she's drinking water, but it's actually chlorophoric. Clotocloric acid? I prefer what I said. Sorry. And then she sort of melts. Do you think she has that nod?

She's a witch. Maybe it was war. Wow. Could she seem, can't know us? Maybe she was just a wicked smart or something. We'll never know. We'll never know. We probably will. I reckon you're right.

What are we doing here? Just did one at the start. Some weird tangents. Yeah. Not all good. I covered this. Yeah. I covered this. Someone's good. I covered this.

I covered this in my face. Someone's going, I think she wasn't lying back there. So she melts the wedge. Now she's killed both the wicked witches. And then she's got a real body cat going there. She frees, yeah, who knows how many bees were lost in that attack. Doe, this frees the Cowelly line and engages the help of the now free winkeys in Repairing and building the Tin Woodman and the scarecrow and the friends return to Oz. Oz does not summon them for several days

That was a real dull part of the book. Oh, I'm still waiting. Just waiting around just checking out cafes Museum going. you know. And when he does not admit them into his presence, he seems reluctant to grant their wishes. Toto knocks over a screen revealing that Oz is only a common man. However, he fills the scarecrow's head with bran and pins and needles, saying they are brains. He puts a silk and sawdust heart in the tin woodman, and he gives the cowly line a drink that he says his courage

rum He and Dorothy make a balloon to carry them out of the land of Oz But the balloon flies away before Dorothy can board. Oz leaves a scarecrow and charge of the Emerald City At the suggestion of a soldier Dorothy and her friends go to seek the help of Glinda The witch of the south in the film we've met, but in the book is the first we see of her. They encounter several obstacles, but at last reach Glinda's castle. Glinda summons the winged monkeys so that they can take the Tin Woodman back to rule

the winkeys, the scarecrow back to her Mold City, and the cowardly lion to the forest to be the king of the beasts. Then she tells Dorothy how to use the silver shoes to take her back to Kansas. Dorothy gathers up todo, clicks her hills together three times and says, take me home to Iron M. She is transported back to the farm in Kansas. So what's the line in the book? Take me home to Iron M. But in the film, of course, it is. There's no place like home. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's a good rewrite. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so there's

definitely some really good rewrites in it. They changes the film is quite different from the book, but they take a lot of stuff from the book, you know. But yeah, it's interesting that they, that the, the three she she meets on the whale end up kind of being kind of rules of different parts of ours. Yeah. Replacing the witches, the Dorothy, killed in cold blood. Yeah, she just straight up murdered. I mean, there's no real bloodless crew, is there?

No. So... What a funny thing to say in such a matter of fact, well, there's no bloodless clue, is there? Proceed. It does feel like a little bit of a threat, though. So the book is, now it's become a big hit, Superwell Known Around the World, it's been translated into 40, 50, something languages.

I saw 40 plus and 50 plus, but I thought 40 plus would cover both of those. I should just say more than one language. Wow, because that's true. Oh, it's absolutely true. Can't, hey. Less than 100 languages. Suck, check that.

Look. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. That's the way you looked at me as my funny, so aggressive. Really on the back foot here. I love it. The United States Library of Congress has called it America's greatest and best loved

homegrown fairy tale. So much of this story is seeped in an American culture in the years since, and I, for Australian culture as well, I suppose. According to this Smithsonian, today images and phrases from the Wizard of Oz are so pervasive, so unparalleled in their ability to trigger personal memories and musings

that it's hard to conceive of the Wizard of Oz as the product of one man's imagination. Reflecting on all the things that Oz introduced, the Yellow Brick Road, when monkeys, munchkins, can be like facing a list of words that Shakespeare invented. I was taking that personally. This could be the most influential and most loved. Could be. Perhaps, perhaps. But I mean that there are, I mean, obviously not. But there are so many things from the Wizard of Oz that are just like,

you, even people have probably never seen it would be familiar with some of these phrases like, there's no place like home. And O-E-O, O-E-O. Yeah. Yeah. Ding dong, the witch is dead. It seemed incredible that one man injected all these concepts into our cultural consciousness.

Wouldn't we all be forever lost without there's no place like home? The mantra that turns everything right, side up, and returns left and normalcy. I don't know if we'd all be lost. We'd all be lost, the Smithsonian said so. Also, that's not even his line. Yeah. He wrote, take's not even his line. Yeah.

He wrote, take me home to An Am. Yeah. So I don't think I would be lost that I don't have an aunt Am. That's true. Yeah, so it's not all him really, is it? But in the filmmakers, but I mean, without him there's no film.

So it's another iconic, or another couple of iconic quotes from the film include, Toto, I've got a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore. You do hear people say that, it's almost like the when-in-room, it just means, it means no matter where you are. And even if you've never been in Kansas, people still understand what you're saying. Yeah. Hey, I've got a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.

That's funny. I'm somewhere different to where I'm used to feeling we're not in Kansas anymore. That's funny. I'm somewhere different to where I'm used to. I'm not in Kansas. Something strange has happened. Yeah. I'm drawing that line's mood, use it like in an action movie,

by like a big Hulk and dude, like the opposite of Dorothy. You're still being like, hey, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore. Well, they go, hey, there's no place like, oh, you know, that's fun's no place like, oh, yeah. That's fun. I like that.

I'll get you my pretty and your little dog too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fun stuff like that. And your little dog too, that is a classic line. This film, I watched it a lot as a kid, and I genuinely had nightmares about the Wicked Witches. Well, it was a brand new film when you were a fan. Well, I was actually middle aged when it was release. No, sorry, in the middle ages.

Yeah. When I was a kid, so you had nightmares about the Wicked Witch. Yeah, be time. It's scary. I vividly remember it. And it was one of three. I reckon I've seen it 50 times.

I haven't seen it in a while. But it was one of three videos that my Nana and Granddad had at their place. We, and Annie was the other one. We pretty much switched between those two when we were in there to watch a film. They also had Mr. Chips goes to Hollywood, but we never watched that.

I still don't know what that's about. They want a funny name, Mr. Chips. Our picture was a man, a chip man, Mr. Chips. I picture as a man. A chip man. You know, like a big packet of French fries. Yeah. Going to Hollywood, trying to make it. Yeah.

Mr. Chips. Go solo. I don't know why we never watch this. It's like, no, no, never. Now, what's the same movie again, please? We were so close to naming our dog Chips. And Fark Mr. Chips would be great. I'm now semi-douding that that even exists. Oh, Mr. Chip something great. I'm now semi doubting that that even exists.

I reckon you have, I'm Alchemadad 2 Hollywood. There's also 1939. Goodbye Mr. Chips. Okay. Also 1939. Mr. Smith goes to Washington. I'm made it.

And you just put in Hollywood. Okay got it. No, it was yeah, it was what was the first one. That's what it was. Mr Smith goes to Washington. No, the other one. Oh, goodbye, Mr. Jackson. Yeah, she had goodbye, Mr. Chips. I mean, I recognize the name of that one. Goodbye, Mr. Chips. Where's the off to Hollywood? Yeah, so he's actually the same one. I think actually that was the US title. I think it Australia. Mr. Chip's not Hollywood. Man, you're going to love this.

The film is about Mr. Chipping, a beloved aged school teacher and former headmaster of a boarding school who recorps his career and his personal life over the decades. Yeah, that does sound fun. It's something like a romp for the children. Yes. Mr. Chips. I should say that wasn't the only video she had. She also taped books back out.

So you get that option? Yeah. She's a gardening show in Australia back in the day. Very popular. Very popular. With a since disgraced host. That was what I was gonna say. Yeah. So the majority of these iconic phrases and images, you know,

ding dong, which is dead, isn't one. Actually, most of those ones I said aren't, but a lot of the images they came from the brain of L. Frank Baume. Baume. Baume. Do you know what the L stands for? Lewis Leonard. You won't get it.

Lawrence. Lime, man. Yes. Lime, Lime, and he did not like that name. I think it was his uncle's name or something like that. He didn't like it, so he just dropped it down to L. He basically went by Frank. Right, because it does sound like, you know, you describe me so on. You know, old Lyman Frank Baum. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, big Lyman. He loves him. He's full of shit. You can't trust a lot of Lyman Frank Baum. Frank Baum! Baum was born in Chinenango, New York in 1856.

Gosh, I never heard, I love that. Yeah. It's great. Almost definitely not how you pronounce it. He was the seventh of nine children. Too many. Quick question. So, oh.

Yeah? One more. I'll take questions here. One more. Yeah, one more for starters. One in his parents have one more. I'll take questions here. One more. Yeah, one more for starters. One in his parents have one more, but did they know what was cooler? Well, I think they did. Cynthia and Benjamin is parents.

Well, they were f**king. They were going, boom. I mean, you get to seven kids and you run out of names, so you can start making. Well, I'm in. Yeah. Well, climbing. Oh, climbing. They were quite wealthy with business interests, including oil drilling and real estate. Yeah, they love to drill.

Oh, yeah. They do drill it all day, all night. Business unplugged. The Smithsonian continues. Baum was sent to Pigkill Military Academy at age 12, whereas Daydreamer's spirit suffered under the Academy's harsh discipline. At 14 in the middle of a caning,

Baalm clutched his chest and collapsed, seemingly suffering a heart attack. At 14. At 14. Caning him for being a bit of a Daydreamer. That was the end of his tenure at peak school. He got sent home. And although he- Because he had a heart attack.

Yeah, they're like, that's your teen. Can you, I just, like I was imagining it. I'm like, in the 1800s, he's getting a Caining at a military school and he has a heart attack. They're going, get up. Don't you reckon? Yeah. I'm hoping you're there going, get up. I'm hoping they're going get up.

I'm hoping you're about to tell us he was faking it to get out of it. No. Oh God. That's awful. Um, so yeah, he had a home, um, and Smithsonian continues here. Uh, and although he attended a high school in Syracuse, he never graduated and disdained higher education. And was later quite a saying, you see in this country,

there are a number of youths who do not like to work. And the college is an excellent place for them. Real old man thing to say. Oh yeah, these kids. Kids is a. At uni. I mean, a book that I studied and lit at uni, which I enjoyed at the time by Bill Bryson,

his first travel book going around America, he talks like that a lot in it about the youth and how they just don't care to know things. And this is his... And he wrote it at 36. Yeah, this is like his first book and he's had a prolific career. So it's so funny to be that bitter so yeah. Yeah, it was like the whole thing was yeah, I really, I remember thing was so funny and it's still funny bits in it but a lot of it is just

it's kind of bleak and it's like when I realized he was 36 I'm like this is written by a man who is 300 years old. I'll kind of book. Yeah But um, yeah, it's it's funny. It's funny how people talk about the youth. Oh the youth They weren't they aren't having heart attacks like I used to yeah back in my day We're having heart attacks at 14 now these kids on their bloody little Nintendo's That's what that's something that Bill Bryison says he talks about how just they've had television all the, he was born in the 50s. Yeah, that's cool. So he's like these kids watching TV all the time.

I wonder what he thinks the kids are today. Who do you think of TV is like some anarchy? Yeah. No. Okay. Anarchy? Anarchy Cultural wasteland out there I'm watching free to wear anarchy Anything could be on there's ads all the time and they're always for weird little

Exercising's are just jiggle. Yeah, I say your lose a weight back my dad just jiggle to myself Jig of known, Winkies. Winkies flew off for some reason. I've got a condition. A double D. Asmissoning continues, Baum, Baum did not mind work, but he stumbled through a number of failed enterprises before finding a career that suited him. In his 20s, he raised chickens, wrote plays, ran a theater

company, and started a business that produced oil-based lubricants, probably for his folks. Oil-drill, and that makes sense. Baume was a natural entertainer, and so his standards of playwright and actor brought him the greatest satisfaction out of these early employments. But the work was not steady and the lifestyle disruptive. By 1882, bomb had reason to desire a more settled life. He married Mord Gage. This is about the same age as Bill Bryson then. Yeah. That's right. She's that's quick maths. He's very good. A student at Cornell, the roommate of his cousin and the daughter of famous women's rights campaigner Matilda Jocelyn Gage, when bombs aren't introduced more to Frank, she told him that he would love her.

Upon first sight, bomb declared, yourself loved misgage. What a wild way to meet someone. Oshontay, consider yourself loved. Sorry, who are you? And your name is... A bit much, mate. Yeah, back off. Back then, though, they would have been like, oooh, fanning themselves over shit like that. My heart is all aflutter.

Today I'd be like, fuck off! Oh, yuck. Frank proposed a few months later, and despite her mother's objections, Mord accepted. In the dedication of the Wizard of Oz books, this sort of talks about the romance in each other's hearts. Borm dedicated the book to Mord,

and wrote that she was his good friend and comrade. Mm, that's nice. You're one of my best friends. Your wife should be one of your best friends and comrade. Top five for sure. Top five, yeah. Partners should be in your top five, I reckon.

That's just my opinion. If your partner is in your top five, that's fine, but you are doomed. Good friend. My good friend. The relationship wasn't always so lovey-dovey. The Smithsonian article quotes this kind of bonkers story. Okay.

On... I might be overselling it, but to me this is such a wild thing to be in a short biography, but it's just such a... I thought I got to read this out. On one occasion, Mord threw a fit over a box of donuts that Frank brought home without consulting her. She was the one who decided what food ended the house. If he was going to buy frivolous things, he would have to make sure that they did not

go to waste. By the fourth day, unable to face the moldy confections, Borm buried them in the backyard, and Mord promptly dug them up and presented them to her husband. He promised that he would never again buy food without consulting her and was spared from having to eat the dirt-covered pastries. Only after promising.

I would be so happy if someone brought home a bunch of dough Someone brought him a bunch of doughnuts. Imagine having a box of doughnuts that don't get eaten in for days. That's the wildest thing in the story. That's fast. That's just not on. And then he's buried them and then he uses inside and he does his digging. He's like, oh no. That's not on.

Maybe like 40 years old or something.'s in the back yard digging up. Got my shame, moldy doughnut. Do you know what, one time, one time, my partner went shopping, he went to a shopping center to grab a few things and he came home and he brought me a cupcake, which he was just like I saw a cupcake and I thought you might like a cupcake.

And that is still one of the best days of all of us. I think about every day. I think about that cupcake all the time. Like, man, I'd been at the shopping center earlier that day and thought about getting a cupcake, didn't get one, didn't tell him that, he got me a cupcake. Oh, that is so sweet.

And it's still, I think about it often. Sometimes I'm like, do I remember that cupcake you bought me? It gets us through the tough times. We'll always have the cupcake. This one is like, how dare you bring home donuts! And you said that this is a short biography. Yeah, such a spits. No, no, what is it?

I reckon they must have also been like, we gotta put this story in. This is why. Who doesn't need a box of donuts? Takes you forward, how many donuts? How many donuts? It must have been like 50 or so. Yeah, it must have been way too many.

Because I don't know. It's four. Yeah. Four was gone in half an hour, but... Oh no. First of all, we're talking, I'm imagining just a box of cinnamon. Oh, yeah, right. That's what I'm imagining just a box of like cinnamon. Oh yeah, right. That's what I'm imagining.

Are you imagining more like our modern day doughnut is covered in all sorts of things? I was wondering if I sing the Surage by the way. Yeah. I was wondering if I sing type stuff because that would go moldy. Sure, yeah. Yeah.

Right. But yeah, also probably less preservatives back then. Yeah. She's was spent more tolerance. No. I'm not saying the answer. I'm not saying the answer. I'm not saying that.

I'm still so interested in it. In 1888, the bombs moved to Aberdeen in South Dakota and would soon be a family of six with four children. I think they were all boys. In the following decade, bomb tried multiple ways to earn a living. Uranabazaar started a baseball club, wrote for a newspaper, and

worked at a department store. Wow. But then according to the Smithsonian, at age 40, Frank finally threw himself into writing. In the spring of 1898, the VFL just began the year before this, interestingly, just to give you context for what was going on in the world. Correct. basically just to give you context for what was going on in the world. Great. So he started writing on scraps of ragged paper, the story of the Wizard of Oz. When he was done with the manuscript, I love the confidence that he's like, I think I've done something good here.

He framed the well-worn pencil stub he used to write the story, anticipating that it produced something great. When the Wizard of Oz was published in 1900 with the Year that Australia Federated, with illustrations by the Chicago-based artist William Wallace Danzo, WWD, Borm became not only the best-selling children's book author in the country, but also the founder of his genre. Until this point, American children read European literature. They had never been a successful American children's book author apparently. Unlike other books for children, the Wizard of Oz was plaisingly informal. Characters were defined by their actions rather than authorial discourse.

And morality was a subtext rather than a juggernaut rolling through the text. The New York Times read that children would be pleased with dashes of color and something new in the place of the old familiar and winged fairies of grim and Anderson. Oh, hands Christian. Well, I mentioned the grim brothers before. Yeah. The grim and Anderson, I guess, that, yeah, because all the famous old fairy tales were pretty much written by those.

Yeah. Or at least they made versions of them, right? Yeah. Some of them are probably traditional, I don't know. Due to its success, Bournem wrote another 13 books based in the World of Oz, and these were illustrated by John Arneal. I don't really talk about it later,

but even after he died, other people took it on and wrote more books in the Oldsworld as well. Right, and is it from your understanding Dorothy, you still involved? Like she goes back? I do. Dorothy's involved sometimes, and then there's, I mean, there's titles. I'll find some titles later, or maybe you can, Dave. Okay, throwing work over to you. But some of those other books have names, you're like, this does not sound good. But that was still very popular. A lot of them missed the chips coast of Hollywood. You should have watched that one. The books, particularly the original, inspired many adaptations. First, let's talk about 1902's musical extravaganza, the Wizard of Oz.

And I've read somewhere that this musical was actually very important in getting the publishing deal for the book. The publisher was like, we're not fully sure about this if you can get a musical or something to help promote it. So I think this musical was going to happen even before the publishing deal was struck, but it needed a matter. It was already hit by the time the musical came out. It did help it further though.

According to the New York public library, despite Bournem, I'd Dave, you got some there. I'm based on that later, no? I'm based on that later, no? There's like, it starts out with, this is a list of the books that he wrote in his life. wonderful Wizard of Oz as we know then the Mars Marvelous Land of Oz Sure, Osma of Oz. Okay. He hasn't lost it yet Dorothy and the wizard in Oz Okay, the road to Oz. Yep, Emerald City of Oz. Beautiful. The patchwork girl of Oz. Okay, then we've got tick-tock of Oz

Tick-tock of us got the same way the app the app is. I think that was like a little mechanical guy. Like a clock? Yeah, like a clock. Like a clock. Then, scarecrow of Oz, then I love to rinky tink in Oz. Yeah, these are the ones I was thinking about. There you go. We've also...

There's like flimby gibbits and stuff like that. Like there's a compilation book called Queer Visitors from the Marvelous Land of Oz. Then the Woggle Bug book, the strange adventure of the Woggle Bug. Yeah, Woggle Bug was another one that got my attention. Woggle Bug. The littlest giant and Oz story. Yes, that's some... Yeah, there's a few.

Actually, most of them just sound like he's recycling the same bit, but they're just adventures. Because he's crowded this... Like, you know, there's a lot going on. There's four different quadrants. There's so many places to explore stories. Big land. Yeah.

Oh, I mean, check him with a lion, see how he's going. Rolling the jungle. Not the jungle, the forest. Yeah. After he died, there was one called Kabumpo. Inos. Kabumpo. Yeah.

Classic. And then grandpa inos. LAUGHTER Really kidding. There's a committee, Cinderella going all right. Classic. Yeah, and then grandpa in all Really kidding. There's a committee sinorango. All right. I'm born. Do we have any? I think Kabumpo didn't do well and they're like let's make it something everybody I like to everybody's got a grandpa right I know I do and then they're like all right. We're losing the kids. What are they like pirates pirates in ours? Well, losing the kids what are they like pirates pirates in ours? Yes Star Wars in Oz

Frozen in Oz. There's so many Barbie in Oz Then John A. Neil starts having you go riding any illustrator. Yeah, so he was he was the one who illustrated the majority of the original books And he wrote a few as well cool the majority of the original books in East, they wrote a few as well. Cool. But yeah, let's talk about this musical extravaganza, the Wizard of Oz. I love the word extravaganza.

Oh yeah. I love to use it for things that are not that extravagan. Well, it's used appropriately here. Great. So this is kind of the New York Public Library. So, Bohm's best known for his children's books, but his first love was the theatre. And in the summer of 1901, Bournemouth's Wizard of Oz Illustrator, W.W.D., and 24-year-old composer Paul Titians,

they began plans for producing the Wizard of Oz on stage. Bournemouth wrote an operetta-style libretto that was quite faithful to the original book. Titians began writing music to bombs, lyrics, and Denzel began to ponder designs and network with his theater friends to find a producer. The proposed production landed with Chicago producer, Fred Hamlin. The story goes that Hamlin picked up the show only

because it had wizard in the title. Coincidentally, Hamlin's family fortune was made with a cure-all medical tonic called Hamlin's Wizard Oil. That's the only reason he's like, yeah I'll find this play. It's a fun. Hamlin passed the project on a director Julian Mitchell, who was best known for creating parodies of hit musicals, kind of like the equivalent of an early 1900s Saturday Night Live according to the New York Public Library.

Mitchell was keen on making the show but didn't like Bournem's story. It's like, I love it, that's make it. Don't like the story. I love everything about it except the story. Which is kind of all you've given me. I like the vibe, I like the name. I like the word, can we just call it wizard? I like the vibe.

Can we call it wizard oil? It's a wizard of a Wheel. So according to the New York Public Library, Mitchell had his own vision of the show. This isn't the oil magnet, the snake oil magnet, this is the guy he'd pass it on to. He had a vision of the show. Why not simply use this American fairy tale as fodder for a send-up of the previous 25 years of musicals? It had everything. Lots of potential for strong visuals, animal impersonators,

chorus numbers for pretty girls, and a great gimmick. It was sent in Americanized fairy land. Mitchell would add even more Americana to the melting pot. A streetcar conductor, a lunch counter waitress, and an anarchist sub putt. Sounds like Bournem was instoked about the new direction, but he rewrote the story in Mitchell's vision all the same. He added contemporary references to the script, name checking figures like President Theodore Roosevelt, Senator Mark Hanna and John D. Rockefeller. Apparently many

pre-existing songs without anything to do with the plot were also incorporated. Other significant changes from the book included the Cowdly Lines role being reduced to a bit part. Imagine that might have been because how do you create a line on stage back then. Something I felt silly realizing was that in the story it was an actual line. Like you see the movie, it's a line. Oh yeah. He's sort of like this weird, but in the book it's just a it's just a talking line

Justa What does it take to impress this guy? I Talked like whatever Give me a man with a mane around his face. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm interested Just a talking Other significant changes from the book included the Cowley Lines Roll, I've said that. As well as the Cowley Lines Roll being reduced to a bit part, the wicked witch of the West is never seen and Toto the dog is replaced by Imogen the Cow.

Cow's are much more American? Yeah. New characters were introduced, including King Pastoria, the second and his girlfriend, Trixie Trifle, the waitress, and a poet laureate named Sir Dashimoff Daly, amongst numerous others. The plot was now focused on this King Pastoria guy who was attempting to regain the throne from the Wizard of Oz. So just entirely changing the situation. So this director's been like, alright, what I've got here is the best selling children's

book in our country's history. I'm going to change everything. It's not even going to be close. I mean, this is still early days. It's only year after being released, but the book had already sold well. It sold its first print quite quickly of 10,000 copies. But in short, it was quite different from the original. How do you reckon it went?

Terribly. It was a big hit. Can let me finish. I love the terribly well. Terribly all very well. There's no middle ground. It was either going to bomb off smash. It had a successful run in Chicago, a 9 and 0 2 before heading on tour and then went to Broadway.

Where I got into the New York Public Library, it became the favorite of a generation. The audiences couldn't get enough. The tornado scene, Fred Stone's boneless scarecrow walking about on his ankles. The lovely all-girl poppy field, the glittering Emerald City. The audiences came back for seconds and thirds. What's a boneless skeleton look like?

Is it just a sack of skin? Yeah, did I say a boneless skeleton? I misspoke. Boneless scarecrow. Ah. Did I say a boneless skeleton? That is, yeah, that's nothing. That's nothing.

Sorry. Yeah, but people back then would be like, whoa. Whoa. I can't see it. Whoa. Well, I keep talking about this character. I can't even see it. I can't see it. Whoa. Well, I keep talking about this character, I can't even see it. I can't see this at all.

I've made that character disappear. How they invisible? Whoa. Wow, theater. Hey, it's a bone of the scarecrow. That, I mean, that is just a scarecrow. That makes, that makes more sense though. I get it.

Not one of these scarecrow's where they've put in a human skeleton. For the world. The audience is kind, they came back and back, brought their kids. Everyone bought the sheet music. This is something I can't, this is the second time we've talked about

how sheet music, we talked about in the Bradman episode, sheet music just sold off the charts. Yeah, amazing. They also bought the piano rolls and Bourms original novels, so that, it lifted it again. Wow. And then they were quite disappointed by the novel.

It was very different. Where's the cow? Toto a dog. Show me the image. So Os had entered the American consciousness. Born then fired with two more Os based musicals, The Woggle Bug in 1905 and The Tick-Tock Man of Os in 1913. These were less successful.

Neither major to Broadway. I was initially hoping to go through all the sequels and adaptations of the original book, but that turned out to be a little naive. There are hundreds of them, hundreds and so many. Films, TV shows, comics, video games, stage productions and books, like we've said. I think the first film version was the wonderful Wizard of Oz.

Different sources say different films was the first one, but this one seems to be the original one, if it existed. It was a 15 minute film from 1910. It was based on the original book and directed by Otis Turner, demonstrating how important films were back then. It's not even known who starred in it. Wikipedia.org says it quote, may have featured BB Daniels as Dorothy.

May have. May have. Wow. I know that was the best I could come up with as that line on Wikipedia. Turner followed it up with three more low budget films based on Borms books, Dorothy and the scarecrow in Oz, The Land of Oz, and John Doe and the Cherub. They were supposed to be like, wait, what? There was a patent here and that opposite of, you've lost it. John Doe, there's a dead body in Oz. So it's

supposed to be a DOUG8. So it was like a muffin man or something. Yeah, a little gingerbread man. These films are all now lost. Born founded the Oz Film Manufacturing Company in 1914 with the aim of creating family entertainment to compete with the popular Western films of the time, which he saw as two violent for kids. The company would go on to produce five films and five short films. One of the films was called The Magic Cloak of Oz, and it followed the story of Fluff, the unhappiest person it was.

Fluff! In it, fairies made Fluff a magic cloak, and would grant him one which. Unfortunately, despite great story of loans like this, the films were flops, and after a couple of years, they were forced to close. The company was then absorbed into Metro Pictures, which went on to become MGM, Metro, Golden.

Mmm, maya. I can maya, thank you. Mr. Maya. Louis Golden, Mayer. Mayer, thank you. Mr. Mayer. Louis B. Mayer. Louis B. Mayer, congratulations, Mr. Mayer. You're welcome. Congratulations. Films and books about the Land of Oz

continued to be made over the following decades. Dave mentioned a bunch of them just before, but it wasn't until 1939 that the definitive film adaptation was made. And that's the main thing I was intending to talk about. It's got a little distracted there for what about an hour? An hour. I mean, the rest is way more grim.

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He then onsolved them to MGM in 1938 for $75,000. It's a good little investment. Good little owner. Good little busting banner. Buzzen banner. In 1937, the first full length animated feature Walt Disney's Snow White and Seven Dwarves was released. And according to the LA Times, it's success in SPIDE MGM to put the Wizard of Oz on a production fast track.

I only just dawned on me there that you know how I got confused between those two chants Mm-hmm. Hi, hi, hi, I was off to work to go and all we all yeah So that's probably no that's no coincidence I guess because they apparently like every Everything I read said when snow white and the seven dwarfs was a big hit That mjms like oh, we got to get someone go on here and that that really was the reason why This version of the Wizard of Oz was made what you you was Snow White again, sorry, you just said it. It was 37. 37, wow.

According to the telegraph, Victor Fleming, the film's main director, say main director, there were multiple directors in the film, I like to say, obstacles made for a better picture. He'd come to the right place when he pitched up in Oz, produce a Mervin Loroi, remembered the making of the film as one gigantic headache. The production was marred by issues right off the bat,

and the studio power brokers treated the cast and crew horribly, and I talk a fair bit about that. So you're ready to have a classic children's film ruined with some behind the scenes stories. Shirley Temple was an early contender for the role of Dorothy, but the part ended up going to 16-year-old Judy Garland. Apparently they didn't think Temple was up to the singing parts. What a slap across the face. Yeah, it wasn't that a thing? Didn't she sing songs? An act? I thought that was it. I thought that's why we knew her.

Just turned out she was really good at spreadsheets. Garland would later say that the movie ruined her life. Whoa! Of the film's 10 main cast members, Garland who played the main character had the second lower salary, winning more than only Terry who played Toto the dog And I I mean all the other main cast members were adults but still isn't that wild that she and Like she was you know she was the such as in like the whole thing right?

Um, it was surely simple younger than her like was she still a child? I think she'll attempt a minor in yeah, Yeah. So they went for more of a teenage. Yeah. So the book was written or the age was never said in the books, but the pictures made it look like it was a much younger Dorothy. Um, but so they put pressure on Garland to be seeing younger. She had to wore a corset. And um, canet and let me see if I've written this ahead before I start going off-piece. A Coordinableography.com, Garland played opposite Mickey Rooney in a string of films for MGM, so she was a contracted player for MGM at the time, but she wasn't a star.

This was the move of the matter of star which sounds like, sometimes you're bad off not being a star because it ruined her life, but it wasn't just being a star that ruined her life. It was how she was treated. Yeah. Concerned about her weight, the studio demanded that she take pet pills to suppress her appetite and keep up her energy.

Then at the end of each shooting date they'd supply all the child's stars with sleeping pills. When Garland was cast in the Wizard of Oz, her weight drew constant criticism from Louis B. Mayer and other studio executives. Her insecurities about her weight combined with her grueling work schedule resulted in her taking even more pills. The Wizard of Oz became her crowning achievement and it immediately made her a Hollywood icon. Unfortunately, it also left her dependent on drugs, which affected her health and her career for the rest of her life. She ended up dying in her 40s. She never recovered from

her pill addictions and it just literally ruined her life. It's absolutely fucked. I think I read something. Something came up on Facebook recently about her and Wiki Rooney and it was a different film though, it wasn't what it was but yeah, like pepping them up to work these long hours and then giving them sleeping pills to sleep for a couple of hours and then waking them up with more pet pills to like get them to keep working. I don't know what to pet pills, that would like, that's mean something like an elicit drug now probably.

Probably yeah. Yeah, almost certainly legal. Yeah Yeah, so just treating him treating it just like a you know like a I don't know like a robot or something. Yeah So we do the robots you can feel People powered robots, but it's not not treating her like a human anyway, and not like a teenage No, just Oh, it's yeah, yeah, such a bummer. To think that she gave such a great performance to spot all that is pretty amazing.

Ray Bolger was cast as the Tin Man and Buddy Ebsen as the scarecrow, but Bolger insisted the roles be switched and they were. This proved to be a bad move for Ebson who Had a bad reaction to the tin man's makeup with caught in a Julie Miller writing for vanity fair One night during the rehearsal period, but but Ebson woke up in bed screaming from violent cramps in his hands arms and legs When he had difficulty breathing his wife called an ambulance and rushed him to the hospital. He remained in an oxygen tent for two weeks,

recovering from the pure aluminium or aluminium he had ingested into his lungs. Oh gosh. Which was what they just painted on pure aluminium. And that was his makeup. Yeah. It's got to be about a work. Rather than being sympathetic to the severe reaction,

the studio was furious. They told me to get the hell back to work, Epson said, when the studio was told at Epson, who's skinned to turn blue during his reaction, could not immediately return, production, replacing with Jack Hayley. Though the aluminium makeup was changed, it still caused Hayley a serious eye infection. So they modified it, but they still were using it. They recast. They recast rather than, and not like, he wasn't like, this is too much I'm out. They're like, we can't wait for you. We're moving on. But I just got sick for you. Yeah. Freakin' hell. Pretty close. Yeah, just, it sounded like they didn't treat any of the actors like humans. Bolder didn't escape without his own makeup issues.

It was reported that the markings from the scarecrow make up lasted on his face for about a year. So he said that sort of Hessian sack effect on his face. Oh my gosh. For a year. For a year, can hell. Bert La was cast as the Cowdly line. He also had his troubles as back to Miller's article. Before the days of synthetic fur, there was only one option for making an authentic

looking Lion costume, using the hair of a real lion. Because of continuity concerns and the fact it was impossible to find Jupiter, Jupiter kit lion hides with identical colorations and patterns, La wore one costume, primarily through filming. Giving the costumes weight, apparently it weighed at 90 pounds, approximately 40 kilos.

Wow. 40 kilos. That's like your, wasn't that your performing weight, Dave? 52. 52. Almost pretty much acting with Dave. Just draped, on your draped overview.

Oh. But acting with Dave just draped on your draped overview. Oh. And the fact that Laura was filming under intensely hot technical lights that had even the lesser costume actors fainting and being carried off the set, according to cinematographer Harold Ronson, the actor thoroughly sweated through his costume each day, so much that the costume had to be put in an industrial drying bin each night to dry the perspiration.

And then just wear it again the next day. Nice of fucking stung. Yeah, it would have smelled so bad. And he's so, like again, what a great performance is this? He's so, yeah, he moves around so much. Yeah. Whoa, sometimes if I have to carry the dog for like a bit,

I'd have to carry him dog for like a bit, sometimes I have to carry him down the stairs because of his hips, he's 17 kilos and I'm like, I'm sorry, mate. I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to just not take you anywhere. I'm gonna have to let you go. Yeah. 40 kilos.

40 kilos, yeah, wild. Gail. I'm just sort of, I'm like Ray Bolger. What's that remind me of on the Simpsons? Oh, I remember he's talking about what celebrities do for, do nothing for other people. And what it's time to do the dishes. Where's Ray Bolger? Ray Bolger's looking out for Ray Bolger.

I'm so funny because I remember that being funny, but that no idea. Ray Bolger is just a funny name. That's the name I know out of the three. So Gail Sundegard was cast as the Wicked Witch of the West, but according to a Warner Brothers time on the note reference before, a couple of months later Margaret Hamilton was cast in role to replace Sundergaard, who decided she didn't want to play an ugly witch. It's undergaard dodged a bullet as Hamilton had an awful time on set. According to Miller, while filming the scene in which the witch disappears in a flash of smoke, the effects crew started their fire before Hamilton had enough time to safely exit the stage. According to Al-Gene Haamatz's 1977 book The Making of the Wizard of Oz, the flames caught on her broom and hat, sculpting her chin, the bridge

of her nose, her right cheek, and the right side of her forehead. The eyelashes and eyebrow on the right side had been burned off. Her upper lip and eyelid were badly burned. When she looked down, her skin had been burned off her hand. Incapacitated, a friend had to pick her up from the movie studio. Friend had to pick her up. And then she later recalled, that was always amazing to me

that the studio didn't send me home in a limousine. I had to call a friend to come and pick me up. Wow, it feels like they could have got an override. Yeah, at least an Uber, an Uber pool. Probably an ambulance, really. Yeah, absolutely. A friend had to come and pick her up. And she's got to make that call herself

when a heart- It's a multi-million dollar. It's just a fucking nightmare. Yeah, take it to hospital. That's awful. Yeah, isn't it? It's such a, you know, this happy film, but it's, yeah, just, such a, just sounds like it was such a sad. I know, like, actors didn't, they weren't the pampered stars back then that they are

today, but, yeah. Take that you pampered prick, if I listen. Look at how they used to do it. Dave filmed and have the other day. I was looking very into days You have your own trailer. Well, let me to say that I was not set a light on set That's what's in my rider will not Do nudity or be set on fire? I will do both of those Do nudity or be set on fire? I will do both of those exclusively.

Only nudity and only if I'm on fire. Yeah, I will not do anything else. Ah, Chockey Milk, ad, no thank you. Let me see the script. Where's the fire? My agent is fired. Subwasting my time. The article goes on to say incredibly the studio called Hamilton the next day

wondering when she would return to set. So I know you've had a lot of burns. Our fault. On ya. Are you coming in? It's 9-01. We're looking at my watch. Yeah.

Are you going to get your friend to pick you up and bring you in? It took us six weeks to recover, but even then, the nerves in her hand were still so exposed to chat to where a green gloves rather than make up. Nerves are exposed. Oh, that sounds so nasty. She said she considered suing because they didn't look after it all monetarily or, I mean, even with a lift to the hospital. So she's like, do I sue, but opted against it, saying for the very simple reason that I wanted to work again.

Yeah, it is Runa, which is ridiculous. Yeah, Miller continues shortly after Hamilton returned to set after catching fire. She was asked to film another fire scene. Hamilton, a single mother, refused to take part in the stunt, but her double Betty Danko, another great name, Aquiest, and promptly caught fire herself. No.

After flames again caught on the broom, Danko later said, I felt as though my scalp was coming off. And she had to spend 11 days in hospital. Danko was paid 35 bucks for that day's work, which was a little bit higher than her normal 11 dollars because she was doing stump work. About the equivalent of $650 today. Oh my god. There'd be set on fire.

$35. The equivalent of fucking hell. Sorry, I'm just responding to inflation at the moment, I've got to say. I did, I mean, yeah, that was based off some inflation, some inflation website I looked up. So I'm trusting them on that. Awful. It wasn't just the fire effects that were possible dangers to the cast. Also, the snow, in one famous scene Dorothy is awoken from a deep sleep by falling snow.

As it turns out, the snow was actually a spestos. According to Atlas Obscura, during the early days of Hollywood, Fakesnow was commonly used in place of the real thing, and there weren't any computerized effects that could make snow. At first, Cotton was used, but then a firefighter on a film set pointed out that it was a bad idea to cover the stage with a material that tends to help fire spread. Despite the fact that asbestos, health, asbestos's health risks were already known at the time. Are they were. Not maybe not to the same extent, but they were known.

Filmset started using one of the purest forms of a spestos on film stages, in part because it was fireproof and looked close enough to snow that it would fool the audience. The effect was widely used in films of that era, but perhaps best known for the Wizard of Oz's poppy field, seen where Dorothy is working from a deep summer after Glinda, the good witch of the South,

introduces Snow to the scene. That white stuff covering Judy Garland, pure asbestos, of course, and Chris, Chris a tall form, making the material even more dangerous than the building form of asbestos. Because it was already fibrous and it wasn't like hard, you know, like they'll build sheets.

Yeah, it was ready to be breathed in and they just dropped it on it. Oh, that's so fucked. On top of all this, like I briefly mentioned before, the temperatures on set got intensely hot due to requirements for the new technical process requiring particularly bright lights. Cinematographer Harold Rosson claimed, people were always painting and being carried off from set during the day. I think I might have quoted Harold before.

That was quite so nice, I quoted it to us. The technical was also the reason why the iconic slip is a colored Ruby red. We've mentioned before in the book, they were silver and they were going to be silver in the film. But Lewis or Louis B. Mayer wanted a show of technical, so he picked a brighter color. He went with the red. Some of the visual effects were more tasty than toxic, and according to News.com, Jack Hayley, the actor who played the Tin Man, explained,

the oil ray bulger squirted at me to loosen up my joints, was not oil, but chocolate syrup. They squirted chocolate in my face because the oil wouldn't photograph right, but chocolate will. Can't I remind you that Simpson's scene, Dave? I wrote it down here, do you want to play? You play the film guy, I'll play Martin and Ralph. I was definitely thinking of this, even when you're talking about snow.

Yeah, totally right. So who I'm film guy? You be film guy I'll be the boys. So why don't you just use real cows? Cows don't look like cows on film. You got to use horses. What do you do if you want something that looks like a horse? Usually we just tape a bunch of cats together. Great bit. Great, great bit. I kind of feel like, yeah, the making of the Wizard of Oz might have been part of the inspiration for that scene. It's best to be snow, chocolate sauce, to be oil. It's funny, yeah, oil doesn't show up on film. Gotta use chocolate sauce.

Okay. Do they find that out by shooting him in the face with oil? Yeah. Hot oil. Yeah. Well, what do we hear? Not to shame. Let's hear it up even more, people.

Speaking of horses, the horse that kept changing colors, I don't know if you remember this late, when they make it, Oh, yes. This is actually played by four different horses. It wasn't actually a color changing horse. How did they come up with the colors? Well, they were covered in lemon and cherry and grape powder gelatin.

This is from the news website article. The horse apparently kept trying to lick the gelatin off. This may seem particularly cruel as common wisdom is that gelatin comes from horse hooves and bones. In fact, the powder is mostly made of cows and off. This may seem particularly cruel as common wisdom is that gelatin comes from horse hooves and bones. In fact, the powder is mostly made of cows and pigs. So it's fun. Is that a fun fact? That is fun. And also at first I was going yum and now I'm going yeah no it's fun. Jelly's such a funny thing that it's such a like a sweet fun It's such a like a sweet fun food. I love jelly. It's from the most full process, boiling hoovs and bones.

I love jelly. I love jelly so much. I love it. I haven't eaten it a long time. I think since I've had, what a shame. Now, good on it. Good on jelly. Yeah, I haven't had jelly.

It's not something I have frequently. It's probably the last time I was when I had my wisdom teeth out and you just, anything that you can, Oh yeah. You know, just swallow. I think there are, not all jelly's made that way anymore, I don't think. Not all jelly.

Not all jelly. Hashtag, not all jelly. But yeah, so in the, if you watch it, you'll notice that in some shots, the horse is trying to lick it and the guy riding the horse is trying to stop it. Oh, that's kind of cute. I'd be nice. Get out of it.

Get out of it, leave it. Leave it. I'm going to go to vegan jelly. There has to be, right? I'm sure. Yes. But in another way, and this is something that I reckon a lot of people will listen to

right now, I'll be saying. But isn't that good that all the bits get used? I think that's true too, right? Yeah, yeah. The, you know, the beef being used off the cow. Yeah. Why not use those bones? Were they going in the bin otherwise?

Yeah. Let's make a fun treat out of them. What else are we doing with them hooves? Yep. You're right. Let's all get jelly. There's little chew toys. I don't know. It's my impression of dogs.

I don't know. I'm sort of dogging the city. So does Paul's for a second. I don't know. Oh my god, where is it? Speaking of dogs, it wasn't just the humans who human actors who were hurt on set. Oh no!

Even Toto. Humans being mistreated I can handle. Oh, don't set Toto on fire, please. Please. Yeah, Ferd doesn't show up on film, so they had to set it a lot. Flames look like Ferd on film. Oh, Terry. Oh, you a Terry.

So, according to an article in by Olivia B. Waxman, writing for Time magazine. It's a fine great day. B. Waxman. And B is the perfect middle initial. Every time. Yeah, she'll be Waxman. Jessica B. Perkins. That's fun.

So, according to Waxman, an actor playing one of the wicked witch of the West soldiers, or winkeys, accidentally jumped on top of Totos. The dog, a female can Terry named Terry, sprained its foot, and the dog trainer, Spitz, had to get a K9 double. Terry did recover and returned to the set a few weeks later. Okay. had to get a K9 double. Terry did recover and returned to the set a few weeks later. Okay. Apparently, so the... I can't if I write this down somewhere, but apparently the dog and

trainer got paid 125 bucks a week. And the actors who played the munchkins got paid 50 bucks a week. So the dog got paid more than the munchkins. Right, but it is a star. Yeah, and apparently the dog's trainer regretted not asking for more money because like he'd read the book and trained it ahead of time to be able to do all the things that Toto did in the book. So they're like, we need this dog. So he's like, I could have got more money.

Oh, wow. How was sneaky? Toto got some strike. Yeah, yeah, this is a little taste of what I can do. Oh wow. How that was sneaky. Toto got on strike. Yeah, yeah, this is a little taste of what I can do. Yeah, I've taught him to not do anything until I say so. I've taught him not to be a scab. To him's principles.

So I mentioned briefly before multiple directors worked on the movies. They worked on it from various amounts of times. Nearly all of them highly decorated. Some of them real assholes. The first director, Norman Tarog, was an Academy Award director for Skippy in 1931. He was replaced early by Richard Thorpe, who was then dismissed by La Roy a month into filming. According to La Roy Thorpe, just didn't understand the story. To make a fairy story you have to think like a kid. And he was going about a tour of it looking out on it.

All right mate, you're using a little bit too much of a lot of dick for my life, okay? So why don't you join us over here in the sand pit? And have a little tainted. Okay, you think you're doing a little nap? Because it's nearly nap time. Before Fleming arrived, George Kukou, David, you know this guy's name, I should have looked at Kukou. Kukou, he's famous director, was briefly in the chair. He was already an Oscar

nominated director for Little Women in 1933, and would go on to be nominated another four times, finally winning in 1964 for my fair lady. But in this case, he would only sit in the director's chair for one week. Wow. And his brief time, he left a mark on the film though, according to the telegraph. In the short time he worked on Oz, he made over Garland's Dorothy, removing a blonde wig and stripping off her heavy makeup. And he urged, and he urged her to play Dorothy Straight. Quote, don't act fancy schmancy. So if it wasn't for him, we would have got a blonde cake on makeup,

fancy schmancy version of Dorothy. That same year, he was also fired as director on another film, Gone with the Wind. Well, do you know? Both time being replaced by Fleming, who won the Oscar for Best Director. I'm not like he was in the chair for a week, so I don't know.

Sometimes it's out the way people tell it. It makes it sound like he was just keeping it. He was just working. They needed to keep the movie going. So I was feeling into Fleming as well, whatever. But, yeah. But Fleming, he's like, I mean, this is one story But it doesn't reflect well on flamingo would argue According to the telegraph

Garland had picked up a reputation for ruining takes with a giggling onset of previous film Listen darling, and let's think like children, but no giggling shit Yeah, no, she's having a bit of fun on set. And here we, we don't abide by that. In a scene with the Cowley line, Bert La, he was clowning, you know, playing. He's like quite a fun, funny character. And she was a 16 year old.

She found his clowning so irresistible that she fell about laughing, flaming slept slapped her face. Oh, what? All right, now he grow out, go back to your dressing room. Sensor to her room. Sensor to her. Sensor to her. Sensor to her room. Sensor to her room.

Sensor to her room. Sensor to her room. Sensor to her room. Sensor to her room. Sensor to her room. Sensor to her room. For laughing. For laughing.

For laughing. For laughing. For laughing. For laughing. For laughing. For laughing. For laughing. an auto, not a prominent role in biography, because it was written by someone else, but a biography written about Fleming that said, he felt awful about it and he tried to make it. He said, he went and apologized and said, I'm really sorry, I shouldn't, someone punched me and then apparently Gullin said, I don't want a puncher, I want to kiss you

and kiss him on the nose. I'm like, yeah, maybe that happened. And she was like, no, I needed that slap. It was the best thing that ever happened to me. Yeah. Please don't find me. Please don't ruin my legacy. The telegraph continues towards the end of production, which finally wrapped on March

16th, 1939, a fourth director added the mix. But I think that's more than four, isn't it? Anyway, another director added, and the mix King Vidoor. Flaming it shot about 80% of the film, when he was pulled to take over direction on Gone with the Wind, which he won the Oscar for. with the wind, which he won the Oscar for. So it was down to the door to shoot all the Kansas sequences, including the iconic scene in which Garland walks around the barnyard singing over the rainbow. You can have the song.

Of course, it's an octave. What? Somewhere, just that word somewhere is an octave. Oh. Can you sing it? Probably not correctly. No, because I don't really know what that means. But it means like it's a range of sound or of like tone.

A tone. Yeah. So more. You have to do all of them. You get it. It's you. The sum is one note and the where is the same note, but an octave above. I think I've rolled my voice.

It's gonna be a song. Oh, wow! Like a fire, sorry. I'm opening an art. That's beautiful. One way to describe it. Telegraph goes on, when Fleming returned to edit the movie, so he was away for all those black and white scenes.

So if you haven't seen the film, the Kansas scenes before she lands in Oz, fire the cyclone, it's all black and white, then it opens up in a beautiful technical. So Fleming was away for those Kansas shoots, King Verdor, what a name, did all those, including the over the rainbow thing,

Flaming returned to edit the film, and that scene caused him a great deal of grief. It had been written by Harold Arlen as a ballad to Segway from Kansas to Oz, but Flaming thought it made the movie drag, and he cut it. Okay. Arlen and Lyrussus Yip Harberg were frantic. We knew that this was the ballad of the show Harberg said, this is the number we're depending

on. We decided to take action. We went to the front office. We went to the back office. We pleaded. We cried. We tore our hair. In the end, it was Mayer who got Fleming to rethink his decision.

The song went back in the picture Harberg said, and of course, you know what happened next. Harberg said, it became a big hit and won the Academy Award for best song and it's the famous song of the film After Ding Dong, the Witches did which job which the wicked witch? Because many years have seen it Obviously remember the storyline and stuff, but I can't remember is there multiple songs is it musical? However it is a musical Yeah, yeah, that mean there's a lot. It's it musical however? Yeah, it is a musical thought of, yeah. Yeah.

That mean it's not all musical. Yeah, I know they speak as well. Fall of, fall of, fall of, fall of the Alabra cry. Oh yeah, I can't remember that one too. Where the munchkin, the muna, the gild munchkin. We welcome you. To munchkin land. Mm.

We represent the Lollipop gild. That's the one you think it of. Oh, yeah. Not for me. I'm a lion. Here I go. No, lions and tigers and bears. Oh my. A classic. How many songs is your upper limit, Dave, in a film?

Two-hour film. How many songs are allowed? Oh. You can have a couple of reckon. So two in it, like one an hour? Yeah, one per hour. That seems reasonable. All right, it's this Googleable. I tried to Google the octave theme because I was like, oh, I'm remembering that

from when my friend Jackie played Google. I remember it from my, also my... High school musical. Yeah, my friend Jackie played the whole thing. There were only two songs you could remember for it to measure an interval. Yeah, it took some whew. That wasn't right. That was flat on the high.

Whew! Whew! Whew! Oh, for the rainbow! Nailed it. Yeah, there's a lot. There's upwards of 15. 15 songs.

Yeah, maybe more. There's the Jitterbug, which is Carl talking about that later, briefly. Don't remember that. Obviously, it was Carl, but I don't remember that being that many songs. Yeah, I mean, a lot of them were short. One's in the Munchkin scene.

Yeah. We thank you very sweetly. Ding dong, which is dead, as ones in the Munchkin scene. Yeah. We thank you very sweetly. Ding dong, which is dead, as mayor of the Munchkin City, as coroner, I must have heard. Oh yeah. The Lullaby League, the Lollipop Guild. We welcome you to Munchkin Land. You're off to see the Wizard.

They're all in that once. Yeah, damn. That was a song heavy, a sexy film. If I only had a brain, the scapegoat. Yeah, it's scary. If I only had a brain. We're off to see the Wizard. Yeah, that. Yeah. If I only had a brain, the scapegoat. Yeah, if I only had a brain. Uh, we're off to see the wizard. Yeah, there's all, I mean, yeah, there's a lot of kind of iconic ones.

If I only had a heart, if I only had the nerve, so each of the animals sort of, I guess they would, yeah, introduce themselves to those songs. It's been, I reckon it's been a little while since I've seen as well. I'm certain it's all sick to get. But I thought I would remember it all like, exactly, I imagine watching it again, I'd be able to talk along with it. Probably, sing along.

One other question I had was, I don't sing. I don't sing. I just wear off to see the wizard. The wonderful wizard balls. The wiz, the wiz, the wiz, the wiz, the wonderful. The rabbit. The rabbit. The other question I, ha, ha, ha. The other question I had was, I know it stars in black and white,

then goes to beautiful technique color. When she goes back to Kansas, does she bring color back with her or is she back into black and white? Oh, I don't remember. I feel like, because it would make sense that she'd bring the color back, doesn't it? Yeah, but it was already a kind of like, it would have been a relatively dull palette all right

That's a question with notice. I'll look that up when I get a sec later remind me Yeah, I'm not sure or how about you look it up. How about you actually look at it? How about you and see your own bloody question, okay? Sorry, everyone do you what what's the you know of all the cursed stories about the film is there any that? You know like a quite a famous story about the film, possibly an urban legend? Is it about a month? Yes. Actor?

Yes. Apparently this is an urban myth. This is according to Waxman. In a scene where Dorothy the scarecrow and the tin man are skipping down the yellow brick road, singing, we're off to see the Wizard, the wonderful Wizard of Oz. Some think the dark moving figure hanging from a tree and background is an actor who hanged himself on set.

More likely it's one of the exotic birds that the filmmakers borrowed from the LA Zoo in order to recreate, or sorry, to create a wilderness setting. According to the fact checking website, snobes.com, the rumor has been circulating around since 1989, the time of the 50th anniversary of the film's release. Wow. Yeah, so I thought I had to mention it

because that comes up a lot. It's like, yeah, I'd heard it, but. Yeah, I'd definitely heard it too. That does ring a bell, but I'd completely forgotten it. I'm watching the final scene on YouTube here, and it looks like they're in black and white. Yeah, back in the... And then that's sapier times.

But the actors come back, right? That's right. The people who play the lie and the... Well, that's another wardrobe thing. The wardrobe, man. I'll go through some of the differences later, but that is one of the differences between the book and the film. Quite a big difference.

In the book, it all actually happens, and in the film, it was all just a dream. Oh, I should say spoiler alerts. Imagine so I was like, what? I was saving that one. Saving this movie is probably older than any listener. So Waxman also talks about another grim rumor from the film. In a memoir by Judy Garland's third husband, Sid Loft, published posthumously in 2017, he wrote that the actors who played the munchkins quote would make Judy's life miserable by putting their hands under her dress. Ooh, yeah. No, thank you. So that, I mean, that was, because that was published long time after both of them had died, and most of the actors who played the Munchkins had passed away as well. Right.

So there's been no way to, you know, figure out how true this is or whatever. Al-Jean Harmat, so I mentioned before, former New York Times Hollywood correspondent, told Waxman that it's true that the actors would go drinking near the Culver City Hotel where they stayed. And this is another thing, there's rumors that they would just be wild parties and orgies and stuff, but apparently that's played up as well.

The... What happens in our stays in our... Yeah, exactly. But yeah, according to Harmatz, their interactions with Gharan did not rise to the level of what Lought described. Nobody on the movie ever saw her or heard of a munchkin assaulting her Harmatz said.

But I mean, that's, she wasn't there. So, you know, it's just that what a yeah, there was an Australian journalist who wrote an article at the time. He's like there's one last-raining actor who played a munchkin. Wise no one asked them for their side of the story and he tried to track him down but they they were 98 at the time and couldn't but their representatives denied it so that's not true but yeah and apparently that that Australian journalist got referenced in when the actor died soon after got referenced in the obituary in a New York newspaper for writing that article, which is strange.

And that's in, that was, he tweeted that because I looked up this journalist and one of his tweet is, five things you don't know about me. I was referenced in the, one of the Munchkin actors obituries. Wow. Strange side note.

Yeah. Yeah. According to a national post article for their presence in what is, this is what I mentioned before, what is likely the most iconic American film in the history of cinema. The citizens of Munchkinland were paid less than Dorothy's dog toto. Seven Cox author of Munchkin's Avars wrote in his 989 book. There's so many books that have been written about this film. He wrote that the Munchkins were paid $50 a week, about $900 today, meanwhile, Toto on a trainer earned $125

a week, which would have quite to about $2300 per week today. The Munchkin cast never even saw their names in the credits. So they were just treated very poorly. Apparently some of the actors were bought by the guy who had the contract with the MGM bought from poor farming families and stuff around somewhere. Oh, just fucking grim. Yeah, so what a... Whoa. So let's think of reading all this and make it hard to watch it again in the same way. Yeah. Just like all the sadness behind the scenes.

Yeah, wow. And also hearing that there's over 15 songs. That's really, really killing the eyes of this. Yeah. It's too bad, eh? Oh my goodness. So the production of the film was a nightmare on all sorts of levels, but how did the film fare at the box office and with critics when it came out in 1939?

Susan King wrote an article for the LA Times which helps answer this question. Thank you for asking. Susan, always there for us. So handy! Drop this, King. It's a little internet thing where they hand a crown back in emoji forms. Yeah, I've been to it. Wow. Hey, you dropped this.

The Wizard of Oz was a money maker for its time, noted William Stiltman, co-author of The Wizardry of Oz. Another book. Another book. But the average national ticket prices at 25 cents, it was not expected to recoup the $3 million in production and promotion costs. Think about $3 million in today's money. You know, that would be quite a lot.

Wow. Remember film historian Scott Esman says, movies in those days were very... Femereal. Femereal. Femereal. Femereal. The story in Scott Asman says, movies in those days were very a femoral, a femoral, a femoral. A femoral, thank you. So, Muttley's here as well. A femoral. A femoral. A femoral, thank you.

A femoral. A femoral, thank you. So, Muttley's here as well. So, Muttley's here as well. There wasn't any TV or DVD on which to extend their life, he points out. So, they came and they went and that was it. So, they had one chance to make their money back. They saw it as a way, I don't know,

I was like a loss leader or something to them. I'm not sure what the logic was, but they were like, we'll make a big thing and maybe it leads to other things, I guess. So do films then run for a really long time? Yeah, they must run for longer because people don't go, I'll wait for the DVD. Yeah, exactly.

If I want to set it, I'm gonna go set it. I'll never get a chance. They would watch it go, if I ever want to to say it, I'm going to say it. I've got to say it. I'll never get a chance. They would watch it go. If I ever want to say this again, I've got to watch it now. Wow. The initial... Oh, I've got to buy the sheet music.

Relive it. The player piano. So, that's the same with I do it. The initial reviews for the Wizard of Oz were mostly positive. Stillman said, with some comparing it favorably to the first full length animated feature, Walt Disney's Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. He said critics also singled out the performances, particularly Garlands and Laurs as exceptional. That's Dorothy and the Lion.

But not everyone was enchanted. Some critics thought MJM was trying to impinge on Disney's territory, which I guess they sort of were, but- What's wrong with that? Yeah, it's like Disney can- Hey, you don't make fun whimsical films that everybody can enjoy. That's Disney's thing.

Okay. Yeah, well you don't make fun whimsical films that in the background is real grim and sad. That's Disney's thing. Yeah. Some critics thought, yeah, sorry, stillman said while those who loved L. Frank Bombs, Osbok series were not happy with the film's modern touches, such as Wicked Witch of the West,

Skierwriting, Surrender Dorothy above the Emerald City on a broomstick. There's the same way she's a plain Skierwriting. I didn't like that. I didn't like that. I didn't like that. So how could you get Surrender Dorothy out in Skater? Like the S is gone before you finish Dorothy. Yeah, somebody not.

You know what I mean? Ridiculous. What you best to do is get one of those ones that just has a little flag flying behind of yeah, somewhere you can have the longest tendency to want that. That's fine. And ever sometimes like, and she's a witch anyway. Why is she having to get up there? Can't you just like snap her fingers

and message will be there? Yeah. And if that's the case, why would you have it in just like smoke? I'd have it in like flames. Yeah, sparkly things. Yeah, I mean. Yeah.

And then like a little skull and crossbones or something, just to be very intimidating. Initially they were gonna do it in flames or the actor said, please. Please, ladies and gentlemen. Oh my God. The Wizard of Oz was nominated for six Academy Awards, including Best Film, winning Oscars for Original Score

for Herbert Stothart and Best Song for Over the Rainbow. That song that was a Victor Fleming wanted cut. Idiot. The film was re-released in 1949 and 1955, but by which time Garnet had become an internationally recognized entertainer stillman said. The film's all-American theme of solidarity, preservation and of home and vanquishing of evil forces resonated with audiences in patriotic post-Word 1949, and it finally re-couped its initial losses and turned a profit. So this is in 1949.

So about 10 years it took to cover the cost. But the movie gained, really gained iconic status when CBS aired it for the first time on November 3rd, 1956. I just realized that that's 100 years after Bournemouth's born. I don't know if that was considered. Oh yeah. It changed the whole nature of that movie,

Asman said. It became an event to see this film. Bert La, who had last seen Oz at its 1939 premiere, imagine the actors on it would be like, I don't want to revisit this film. Yeah, especially what they've been through. So he came back to introduce the program, for the television version, assisted by Judy's daughter, Liza Manelli.

The original 1956 broadcast was a huge success drawing 45 million viewers. Wow. So what's a 17 year old movie? Yeah, exactly. Amazing. But I mean, yeah, you think that's wild. The network didn't air it again to 1959 when it attracted even more viewers

Wow, I don't know what the population was then Dave. I don't know if you can check on that What homework on this USA population on in 56 Handy having the sidekick And I'm enjoying just watching you guys work. Well, I factually. 168.9 million. So it's a big chunk of that. The one in three, I watch it.

The network then had a contract, CBS, the network had a contract with AirbnbM for a third airing and subsequent showings established the Wizard of Oz as an annual special event said stillman. The special event broadcast of the film cemented its place as an all-time classic. This is from a 1965 time magazine article about the upcoming broadcast. Parents are again preparing for the occasion. It will occur this coming Sunday for the seventh straight year, and the children with a special restlessness

will collect around the television set in much the way that their fathers do for the professional football championships. For the program has become a modern institution and a red letter event in the calendar of childhood. According to Haam, it's each time for the first 9 TV screenings, the film attracted at least 49% audience share. Wow. This blew my mind. We're talking about this point. By the end of that, it's like 20

something years old. And it's half of everyone watching at least is watching any show on the TV at that point. Watch that. Absolutely wild. I was thinking I might give you some found this great listicle, love listicle that goes through some of the differences and similarities between the books and the movies. I thought I'd go through and see which ones we haven't knocked off already. I thought I'd go to and see which ones we haven't knocked off already. The first one they do, they change from the book. Dorothy is happy on the farm during her life on the farm. Movie-toto-byte-to-naber, Miss Gulch, being an arsey person in general, she demands that

the poor dog be put to sleep. She, I think, am I remembering this right? She then plays the wicked witch, I think. I might be wrong there. She even tries to kidnap Toto, but he manages to escape and make his way back home. None of these events happen in the book. In fact, Dorothy finds farm life rather pleasant, although it is a slightly harsh one. The next one, this one say the same. Dorothy travels to Oswire, tornado. That's the same. They say the same. We mentioned this one before. There's just a change. The land of Oz is real. There's even a map that's drawn up, but she actually gets lifted up, and this is

a place on earth. This land of Oz. Where is it? It can't, is you idiot? How can I get there? Unlike the Technicolor DreamScape displayed on the silver screen, the book version of the land of Oz is far from being imaginary. In the film Dorothy wakes up in her bed with several members of her uncle's farm around her. She realizes that each person is a symbolic representation of different aspects of her dream.

On the other hand, book Dorothy actually goes to a place called Oz, saying there for months at a time. In fact, when she finally returns home, she discovers that the farmhouse has already been rebuilt in the movie. It was clearly depicted as destroyed. Right, so time has passed. She's been away. Yes, that's right. So, and I think I read that they got that from maybe from an earlier adaptation either movie or play

Where the actors played both roles at the farm and in Oz so that wasn't a new for the film that was taken from an earlier adaptation This one Dorothy kills a wicked witch of the East in both that says the same Dorothy's slippers are actually silver in the book. Boring. Boring. And Red, fun in the movie. Stayed the same. Dorothy and friends traveled to the M.L. TV.

That happens in both. That happens in both, yes. Change, the wizard has four different forms. The live action adaptation displayed the gang meeting the wizard who takes the form of an enormous ghostly head surrounded by mist There's a real funny bit in the film when he's uncovered as just a goofball quite a curtain honking home No

Leave that curtain alone very funny stuff No, no, no, no, dog get that dog away Don't worry about that man No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, create the illusion of true power in their minds. Though through the magic of special effects, the scarecrow perceives him as an attractive lady. The cow dly lion sees him as a burning globe and the tin woodman beholds a monstrous creature. However, Dorothy's vision of him matches the one seen in the movie. More importantly, the story was made less dark

for audiences instead of asking for the broom belonging to the wicked witch of the West, as he does in the film film he simply demands her murder. Okay. Sorry they would have been happy to do it. Yeah. Happy to applaud. See in the film he doesn't he doesn't even ask for it.

She just does that. That's right. She's like, I can get you didn't say I can't murder. She brings in the brews like, oh thank you so much. How did she take it when you asked for it? Let's just say you won't be hearing from her for a while. Yeah, let's just say it troubles melted away. I said the same thing to help start the Ona Journey.

Boy, change the winged monkeys are unwilling captives. While the winged monkeys on screen are violent minions of the Wicked Witch of the West, on text, they are under duress, being forced to serve the Witch. This is because she possesses the magical Golden Cat, which I mentioned earlier in the story recap, which allows her to command the Winged Monkeys to do her bidding. Furthermore, there are limits placed on the Enchantment. she cannot give them more than three orders before the spell breaks at the conclusion of the book Glinda returns the golden cap to the monkeys so they might free themselves from the curse forever. That's a nice Do you remember on the Simpsons when Mr. Burns has the winged monkeys? Yes Just imagine that before I think we were trying to figure out and did I just like oh So is it for was it was a pretty good song?

So I'm really about a concentrating on two things at once. No 100% but we were trying to figure out. And did they just like, Oh, sorry, I was a poor, I think it was pretty good for you, I was a little bit sorry. So I'm really bad at concentrating on two things at once. No, 100%. But we were trying to remember, I think you've confirmed, because we weren't sure if we made it up. Did they just sort of fall? Yeah, they realized that they can't fly. So they just fly out of his window.

He's obviously in the end of it. Presumably to their death. And that's funny to you, is it Dave? Very. You're a monster. And the final one is, stayed the same, the wizard gives the heroes what they ask for, the heart, the...

But it's kind of like a... I just remembered another... another Simpsons reference where Sarcho Bob says, and Snake, I'm going to miss you most of all. Which is what Dorothy says to scarecrow. Yeah. They use it a lot. Yeah, so that's a screen rant, Lister Califf, people want to look that up,

links to all these things in the show notes. I'm going to finish with a few more facts because there was so much grimness. I thought, I mean, these aren't that funny, though, to be honest, even the final ones are a big grim. I'll be the one to decide that. This one, maybe, is a little interesting. It relates back to a previous bonus

episode we did about the Mandela Effect. It sounds like it's going to be one for you Dave because Matt says it's interesting. Oh okay, no. No, I don't think it's all that fun. So you know the Mandela Effect is where people remember things collectively that didn't actually happen or remember them slightly differently often. In a real dull, small way often. Oh, it's very interesting. And we did a bonus episode once on Patreon, I'm going to hear that. That's, yeah, that's right. I explained in great detail.

I'm sure best and bears all that sort of stuff. What was the film with the genie? Oh, we go again. Yeah, shazam. Shazam. I remembered that. So in this case, a lot of people remember the Wicked Witch of the West telling her flying monkeys.

Do you... Fly my pretty. Yes. She didn't say that. What does she say? She says fly, fly, fly, fly. She just says fly a lot. Yeah.

Why do we collectively run a fly monkey? Yeah, I guess I'm guessing it's like the Simpsons or maybe Mr. Burns said it or something like that. Right, yeah, I also can hear her saying it. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm not sure, but yeah, that's in that strange. Fun though. It's quite fun.

Oh, shit. It's not green. This one I reckon is interesting more than fun maybe. During this scene, the which also tells the monkeys that Dorothy and the gang will quote, give you no trouble, I promise you that. I've sent a little insect on a head to take the fight out of them, which I never noticed.

But that makes no sense, because it references a deleted scene. Where she, the Jitterbugs song that you didn't remember. So she sent these Jitterbugs that you didn't remember. So she sent these jitterbugs and they bought the group or something which makes them all sing and dance. And there's a few different reasons I read that they took that out for cut of the time. One said that it somehow related to alcohol and I thought it was a bad message for kids. I don't know how that works.

As they show it a child in a spest off, they were like, this is bad for kids. I don't know how that works. As they shower the child in a spest-off, they'll think, yeah, this is bad for kids. Yeah, exactly. I've got the Simpsons reference here, which probably helps with it. When they're talking about Lisa's first word, and they recall passing on a house that was just full of cats, and then Bart has a vision where he trains them.

I could have trained them to be my unholy army of the night and then he envisions, go my pretties, kill, kill. So that's another one. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. What we must have said half a dozen Simpson's. Are there even a full page on the Simpson's Wiki? Data, there's a couple dozen.

Yeah, so the riders are obviously big fans of the film. Finally, this is from Smithsonian, Danzo, WDD, WD, the illustrator of the first edition used his royalties to purchase a piece of land off the coast of Bermuda and declare himself King. What an absolute King! I'm sorry, I think you dropped something.

Yeah! That's cool, an island. What an absolute king. I'm sorry. I think you dropped something That that's cool an island. Yeah, all right. Yeah as long as there weren't people already living there I think that's gonna Go on self-king otherwise yeah, all right. Yeah, you're right. We should probably look into that a bit more And also from that same article apparently into that a bit more. And also from that same article apparently, this one, so we went, Bohm met his first grandchild, Francis. He said that the name Osma suited her much better

and her name was changed. To what? Osma. Okay. So they named her Francis. Yeah. Presumably after him, Frank. Yeah, maybe.

And then he went, no, Osma. And that, and everybody just went, this made up name from one of my books. Yeah. If my father-in-law walked in after I just given birth and said, no, I would, It's smoking a cigar. I would, it's smoking a cigar.

And then, I'm like, Oh, haven't you have a look at the window here? Back through the glass. And then Osma grew up and had a daughter. What do you reckon, Osma named her daughter? Osmina. Dorothy. Get the fuck out.

I thought you had it. We get it. One person your family did something good. Get over it. Form your own personality. I imagine that the best deal. I was on the same page of the year, but it felt like it's like, oh, let the kid have a chance.

There's so many generations ago. Yeah, but I imagine they're still. That's a great grandfather. They're still catching checks, right? Yeah. Yeah, okay, fair. You've been named Dorothy. And it's not Dorothy, my grandma's name is Dorothy.

Cute, dot, a lot adorable. She hates, especially your grandma. She hates, dot. Really? Yeah, like it. Yeah, like it. She's just full Dorothy. I like the name, but.

Yeah, but not, I mean, come on. It's better than Osma. Yeah, it definitely is. When she could have been Francis. Apologies to any Osma's out there. Sorry. Sorry, Osma. Or fluffs or a TikTok man So yeah, that's the end of my report on the Wizard of Oz. So real roller coaster ride. Yeah great work. It was epic

But I knew so little yeah Yes, I mean yeah, the parts are like oh, that's nice and so many parts like oh, I mean, yeah. The parts are like, oh, that's nice. And so many parts are like, oh, I'm sad now. Yeah. So hopefully people at home are feeling okay. I mean, this did happen a long time ago. Yeah, everyone's long dead. It's, it was a different time. Everyone you feel bad for, they're dead.

Don't worry about it. It's, what about Osmah? Two grim. Dorothy? Osmah's dead. Dorothy might be alive, but Osmath's dead. Dorothy actually had a grandchild named Jessica Perkins. Oh my goodness!

This is your life! Yeah, cool. Alright, and I think for primates to listen, I think I want to jump back in for a one-off episode about this film at some point in the next few weeks. I mean, I'm saying it now, so I probably have to jump back in for a one-off episode about this film at some point in the next few weeks. I mean, I'm saying it now, so I probably have to commit to that. Because, of course, we had the winged monkeys. And, yeah, I was always intending when I was doing primates to do it, a Wizard of Oz

episode. Just never quite got around to it. So yeah, if you want, in that, I'll go through the full plot of the film, which will be... Including all 15 songs? Including I will say all 15 songs. Looking forward to that. Including Digitabug. Which was cut, but it is a classic.

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First one this week comes from Derek Brigham, who's given himself a title of Existential Crisis Manager. I could use that most nights as I go to sleep. That's not wrong. So if I go get your number, Derek, that would be handy. Derek, I could hit your number.

Ha ha ha ha ha. Uh, and these advice was always, just a little bit of fabulous fill. That's not a bad way to deal with it. That's a great way to go. Uh, Su-su-su-yup. Ah.

Mm. Uh, yeah, that song always poses another question. The fuck's he talking about? Yeah. I didn't even say the word. What is he saying? Su-su-su-su-do. Yeah, I don't know what it means. Phil?

Come on Phil. Uh, so Derek's asked a question, which is, have you ever had a crystallizing moment of realization that instantly changed your mind about something? Are you trying to trigger an X-ray? Try to trigger an X-ray? For example, most of my life, I was of the opinion that it was incorrect to have the toilet paper roll hanging with the end on the underside. I was originally set in this belief until it was pointed out to me

that some people have cats and cats like to bat at things, hanging the roll on the underside way prevents feline based on spooling. Okay, well I don't have a cat and I still have a cat. When you say underside, does that mean that the roll pulls away from the wall. No, so, okay, so the correct way to do it is the role is like a piece will be hanging over the top and you pull in it and it runs over this way. Like a waterfall. Like a waterfall? The incorrect way is let's say you've got your toilet holder sitting against a wall and

the paper is running against the wall from the back of the roll. So he's saying he used to go with you but then the cat people changes mine but you don't you don't have a cat. I don't have a cat. I do have a cat. I've got a cat but I have no opinion on this. I've never noticed it. I don't know.

I normally find these things fun that don't really matter and you could choose a side. So maybe I will pick one but. I will change toilet rolls if they are. Yeah right. I just wouldn not know. And somebody else's house. Thank God we agree on something, Jess. Yeah.

We're with you. I'm with you so much. People. People that why are you running it against the wall? Yeah. No, I have no, there's no logic to my any of my reasoning. I just don't like it. No, there is logic.

It pulls away from the wall. Why would you go underneath, pull it, there's cat thing. OK,, I've never heard that before but maybe that would account for a small percentage of the population with the cat But a lot of places at a workplace why are people hanging at the wrong one? Yeah, there's no cats in the work I imagine as people like me just chucking it on yeah Nothing here about it Maybe there's people who are cat people who would put in the other way There is also people who are the opposite of Jess and I who are staunch, saying, no, we're wrong.

And without the cat. Without the cat thing, they'd say, why would you do it our way? Which I also think, you're right. I didn't know this was as big as that. Yeah, I think you need to start caring. All right, I'm going to start knowing. This is your out of you. I mean, maybe the reason I don't care is because a gentleman never shits.

So I don't really have because a gentleman never shits. So I don't really have an experience in that area. So do you have an answer for this though? Oh, yeah. I can't pinpoint a moment. So maybe this doesn't quite count. But I do definitely think as a kid, my dad would put me as a kind of the car. And I'd hate it. Fleetwood Mac, Elton John, deep purple.

Now I was into all those acts and I'm like, these are some great songs. Oh great. So I can't pinpoint the second that it changed. I wish that I could be like, oh, and then I heard dreams where Fleetwood Mac and I was like, oh, wow. But like it's over time, now I'm like, three great artists. Oh yeah, there's tough totally got some, I got an example of this now. I can't quite pinpoint it. But yeah, that's really interesting when you go, I know actually, yeah. Yeah, this is good. And then you listen more and now, it's like completely,

I can't even think of what I was thinking as a kid. Why I hated it so much. But he put on Elton John Greta's hits and I'd be like, oh, this is the worst music I've ever heard. And now I recognize, oh, these are some of the most influential pop songs ever. Yeah. I think that happens to me with music a bit,

where I'll sort of write off an artist a bit, just because of reputation or whatever. And then a friend or someone, like I often ask people, they're favorite band is whatever. And one example is, I just wrote off John Mayer as being like a whatever kind of act, because all I knew was my body is a wonderland, which makes me full-body cringe.

Just that lyric, but I'm... My body is one blow. But a friend who said he's like John Mayer's his favorite musician, and he made me this mix CD, and I'm like, just knowing that he loves. I'm like, my friend, he's not silly, he likes it for a reason. So I listen to what we knew he is and go, yeah, that's pretty good. And I could listen to John Maye music. Yeah.

Even my body is one. Maybe not that one. Was that on the mix? No. But yeah, I think that happens to me a bit, whereas yeah, just someone will go, I love this. I go, well, if you love it, then there's something in it and it fully opens my mind up to it. And I reckon that sort of proves to me that I think I can like any music if I want to. Wow, I can just wheel yourself.

Yeah, there's something in it. Like, someone's made this. Yeah. If it wouldn't be out there to hear if everyone thought it was rubbish, probably, apart from really cynical music producers and stuff. Yeah, so that's probably a good example of that. One day I'm going to John Mayer. Pfft.

Next time I'm going to John Mayer. Huh. And that's, yeah, that's about John Mayer, I think. Yeah. Mr Mayer. Did you have any thoughts on that one? The only one I could think of was that I hated Emily Blunt for a long time because the first movie I saw her and was Devil's, the Devil wears Proud and she's terrible.

Well, she's like, she's good at the end, but she's just this awful person. And so I was like, I hate her. She sucks and then sorry comedy's. I was like, I love you. She's right. Oh my God. Turns out you're just a very good actor. You're just doing a job and playing a role well.

And I fell for it. I fell for it. No, I love it. Oh, that's sick. I think she's great. The other one that's happened to me and this is instantaneous is with food. I've written off foods before. Yeah.

Remember in high school having avocado toast at my girlfriend's house and thinking, oh my god, I do not like this. Oh well, I guess I'm gonna eat it and then being like, oh my god! Yeah, I never looking back. Have a car to that same thing happen to me. I always just, I looked at him like, that looks ya. No, no, no. And then I was at, I was working at Safeway, trolleyboy, and I was, I was going on a break with my mate who worked in the bakery, and he was picking up, he'd go to six-pecker rolls

and have a car to tomato, pack it a cheese. I'm like, the fuck is that? Oh, that looks gross. And he goes, no, it's so good. And I go, no, I'll try it. And I like, and he goes nah it's so good I go I'll try it and I like it's funny because of my change of mind I'd never tried it before to do and I still eat that combo today yeah this is more than a decade it's like this is a long time ago and I so I had that yesterday black pepper I think of it every time I think of him every time I haven't of him every time. I haven't seen him since those days.

I hope he's well. He's like, you're welcome. And then walked out through a door and he never saw me. My work here is done. I turned around and he'd gone. Oh, did not. You didn't do anything. Yeah. Yeah, we definitely did.

So I think people, I'm very open to suggestion. Like, oh, I had an opinion on this, based on nothing. I hated, I wasn't big on cheese for a very long time. Like, yeah, and then went to Paris and my friend made sandwiches and it was like, ham and brie. And I was like, oh, I mean, she's made it. And then tomato and I ate it and I was like, oh, brie's delicious.

Oh my God. Yeah, I love cheese. Thank you so much for that question Derek. Hopefully that was what you were looking for. Is that what you wanted? Do you want to more interesting things than I didn't like avocado now I like avocado Uh-huh the next one comes from Bron Al Day all day

every day and Bronz title is the very model of a modern major met. Oh, you got me You got me. Yes, bro. The very model of a modern major general Well done, Bronn, you got me. You're happy? That's what you said. You got me. You got me.

You're fuck, that was a bit much to be honest, Bronn. I think you like it. I appreciate your support. You fuck. Another great Simpson's reference when Barney and Homer are going, one I want to go to space. And then Barney does all the back clips, whilst saying that. That's right. And then Bonnie does all the back flips whilst saying that. That's right. And they're very modern major of a modern major general.

And then I was like, that's nothing. There once was a man from Nantucket and then sliced, straight to a wall. That's right. That's right. That's right. Okay, so bronze, also asked the question, bronze rights.

What is something that growing up, you're always dreamed of having? And when you are old enough, or financial enough to afford it, it was so worth it. I ask this as I sit here looking at my feet. She bought a fee. You bought your fee?

Which inspired this question. As a teenager of the 90s, all I wanted was a pair of cherry red, eight-hole dock martens, which would be the only true way to express my teenage angst, but it was way out of my financial ability at the time. Time went on as it does and priorities changed, but finally at age 37 I saw a pair one day and impulse purchase them and they made me feel all the punk rock emotions.

That's awesome, Brian. It's now six years later I've worn them to a Green Day concert and they're back in fashion and I still love to wear them on particularly angst ridden days. Yes, that's great. Thank you for answering your own question as well. Yes, that's something that's, that's, that's, that people are doing that really well now. I mean, it's kind of like if, if we were not, when asking for it, there might be like, it feels a bit rude to just ask the question, it's all going to answer,

but it does make it way more interesting if you are in this to answer your own questions as well. I've quite a sincere answer. If you don't mind. When I was in high school and I was studying photography and we studied the work of Max Dupain, he has a picture taken in 1937 called The Sun Baker. It's my favorite. And I said, my dream was one day when I, I was like 17. I was like when I have my own house.

And I have a print of that over the fireplace or something. And I said this to my mom sort of like, that to me was like a measure of being an adult and being successful. And for my 27th birthday, my mom gave me a print of it, and it's up in my house. And so I wanted it for 10 years and I've got it. It's not over a fireplace and it's not in a house I own,

but it was like something I wanted for a really long time and I love it. I love it. Yeah, it's really nice. Yeah, I told you it's sincere, it's gross. I wanted for a really long time and I love it. Oh, it's sick. Yeah, it's really nice. Yeah, I told you it was sincere. It's gross. I have a similar story. No. A similar story. I was a very big fan in high school of the Picasso painting,

Gernica, the giant mural. And I worked hard and I saved up several hundred million dollars. And now that is hanging in my house. It's very proud of me. For a long way through that, I'm like, oh my god. No, I just tried. How Dave grew up. It was so dull.

Oh, I really, I have been just too Madrid to see the painting twice. And it's really. It was just on a Met the artist. And it was fucking awesome. No, my thing is, I always wanted a globe of the world. And a couple of years ago, I bought like a small, it's black, which features in our, doesn't it?

Yeah, yeah, it's just in our web series. Like there's one of the props and I bought that just on, also in an impulse purchase. I was like, I've always wanted one of these. So it's like at a bookshop type place that sells cards and all sorts of old antique type stuff. It's not actually an antique, but I was just like, I'm getting it. I'm getting it.

That's great. Yeah, I love it. See mine, the first thing that came to mind was I, this shows my age a bit more, but I wanted to wash and carry. I want a model T. Now I always wanted a video camera, but you just couldn't, like, I mean, we just couldn't afford it. I would have asked my parents for, I can look at him, he's just kind of boredom. The only way to get one, you find him on Hard Robbers, probably. The only way to get one back then was to win the JVC pack. Because you were the funny-some videos.

But to get that, you had to have a video camera to film yourself. To be on funny-some videos. It was this horrible cycle. Chigodana economics does not work. You just give video cameras to people with video cameras. We never had one. They were really expensive, you're right. They weren't common. So, and my, I've got a, you know, kind of wealthy,

Arnie Uncle, and they had one. So I'd, I'd see them use it, and I borrowed it one time. Like, oh, this is so good. I borrowed it for a high school project. And it just felt like it was the best. And then I'm like a one day. And then, yeah, saved and saved. And they were coming down in price as well.

And then just after a 10, 21, I bought one. I mean, it would have lost value the next year by most of it. But it cost like, I think it cost a grand or something. Yeah, wow. And yeah, filmed a bunch of stuff, took it costs like, I think it costs a grand or something. Yeah, wow. And yeah, filmed a bunch of stuff, took it, you know, made little moves and stuff, still got a, I filmed my grandparents who now have passed away.

I interviewed them and I cannot find the taste. Oh. I interviewed them both about their lives. That's such a great idea, yeah. And I started this documentary project in 2001. Wow. No 2002. Sorry. That was No, hang on. That doesn't add up in the 2000s sometime Wasn't my 18th person. Whatever This doesn't really matter at all, but

Very important to get these details right But I but I whatever it was was a 20-year project. It was a time capsule and I interviewed like my dad and a bunch of people and I'm like, and it would be like in the next few years that it would be coming up. Oh, cool. And I cannot find the tape.

Yeah. But yeah, it was just such a fun thing. So it's funny that it ended up sort of helping run a production company. Because this was sort of the dream. And now I do, I've never bought a camera, never really learned to do it in any decent level. But it's fun, we've got a camera as a podcast now, which is much better than that camera

I bought, which I still have. I don't have the heart to get rid of it. But especially because if those tapes turn off, it's the easiest way to play them. Yeah, so, I don't know, that was a bit since year two maybe. No, that's nice. So thank you for that question, Bronn. These are taking us a little bit more than normal.

The next one, how's this for a name? The next one comes from Paloma Valasquez. Ooh, I love it. Who's given themselves the title of Spooky Vicar. That's great. That's so good. That's one of my favorite strategies. And Spooky Vicar.

And Spooky Vicar. This is Paloma's quote. He'll see us. These were actor James Dean's final words. Oh. I used to live on the James Dean Memorial Highway in California where he said this, seconds the head-on collision that killed him, which is where I learned this grizzly quote. If you could choose your final words, what would they be? If this is an illegal quote question hybrid, ignore last sentence. Oh, last words. I'm gonna be later.

Well, last words. I'm gonna be the latest. I'm gonna be the latest. I'm gonna be the latest. Mom would be, oh, one more thing. I'm gonna be the latest. Mom would be, oh, one more thing. It's funny. Yeah, the treasure is buried.

Yeah, I'd be fucking with whoever's left behind. There'd be no one around. A venge, a venge me. Don't pack my asshole! It's an important one to say yeah and have on the record. Is that Yul's day? Don't pack my asshole. Don't pack my asshole!

Wait, you didn't finish it, don't pack my one? Don't pack my one? Thank you so much, Polo, I'm a great one there. Spooky Vika. Spooky Vika. Spooky Vicar. And finally, one from Jacob Lane, who given himself the title of the ex-Sympson's guy who still listens to the podcast and loves it, but deleted Facebook because it was driving him up the wall, so he doesn't record the Simpson's references anymore, but he still

appreciates him. This episode was heavy, Jacob. I was thinking of Jacob throughout the episode. Yeah. And well done for deleting Facebook, very jealous. Hopefully that wasn't because of us. The pressure from the show. Yeah, that did start feeling like a nightmare

that you, I'm glad you found it out there. Is that what that just feels like? Yeah, don't stick around for us. Thanks for still listening. It is. We love you, still. It's a nice place on Facebook for sure, but yeah. That's a general rule. It's a bit of a time trap and just...

Yeah. Bums me out. So, J.H.E.K.E.B's question is boxes or briefs. It's very close to it. Another podcast, great questions. Puppet Dumb's or Bread? Puppet Dumb's or Bread. Papa Dom's on Bread. I was so confused on a first-hand that,

what do you mean? What play-ski's offering you Papa Dom's on Bread? Apparently everywhere. When I was working at a, I used to work at a store that sold underwear. It was sort of primarily, I can say the bread. I used to work at Bonds. And I got very good where I could pick if people were a briefs or a trunks kind of guy

What would you say the ratio is? Trunks more popular briefs tend to be an older style, but not necessarily. So I haven't worn a briefs or I can in 20 years Wow Bray Sarkin in 20 years. Wow, I mean, let's still give her a chance. Jess, you said this is your talent. Save your guess what Jess did with life. Dave is trunks. Well, you send me walk around. So I know for sure.

He's trunks. I'm saying he's trunks. We've seen more than my trunks. And I've asked you to stop. Who was saying his right bolja? Hey, a right bolja is looking up a right bolja. I've asked boxer briefs. It's sort of like a hybrid, right? But that's kind of what boxes are now.

Nobody's wearing box. I am old enough that there were like a silky marvel in the Martian boxer shorts at some point. And can I just say that there is actually a third option? What's that? And that is employed by Shane Warren. Remember, he would always ask, Boxer's briefs or commander.

That's right. Mantis Anders. That's right.onsus artist Hahaha Yeah, that's right Yeah, he did ask that of Chris Martin in that interview Which I watched in full to try and find that scientist reference for confining Monsus scientist Monsus scientist

Did he deleted or did Tony Martin invent it? Mandela effect Or is it Mandela effect? Holy shit Ohhhhh Um, so that's the last of the facts, the quotes and the questions this week. If you wanna get involved, like I say,

get on patreon.com such to go on pod or do my pod.com and sign up on the Sydney Shamburg Deluxe Memorial edition blah, blah, blah. I wear long johns. Oh, long johns, so it's the full, with the flap, the poop shit. Ha, ha, ha. Yes, so, and if anyone is on this level and is like, how do I get involved in it?

You do get a message when you sign up that explains it, but I know there's some people in this level who have never given us a fact-coded question. And I wonder if they're choosing not to or whatever, but if you are, can send me a message on Patreon Messenger. There's a message thing in there and let me know. And that's the same. If anyone's got any Patreon questions, some people occasionally, I really hope this doesn't open a floodgate, but sometimes we'll go, I haven't had my

shout out. I feel like it should have been there by now. Happy to answer those questions. Having said that, it does take about a year or so. It takes more I do, where the delay is longer than a year. So if you've all been waiting for 18 months and it hasn't happened then get in contact and I'll figure out. And if symptoms persist, see you doctor. I'm so sorry about the Ray Bulger. It's very funny. But also don't put on some pants. But also thanks for the compliment. Hey Ray Bulger is coming also for Shafes and Sart. Hey, Ray Bulge is coming also. Shafes and stuff. And all Ray Bulge is.

Another thing we like to do is thank a few of our other Patreon supporters. This is the one that might have taken, let's see, these people who were shedding out now signed up last March. So, March. Last March. Last March. Good March. And normally just comes up with a little game for us to play as we shout. March, so... March. Last March. Last March. Good March.

And normally just comes up with a little game. First of all, as we shout them out, somehow relating to the topic. I mean, what there could be a... What do they think, like, the hat, the golden hat, sort of thing? What about, like, the people, what they're on their quest for, like a heart.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh,. Oh yeah, that's much better. Like good over golden hat. What color's there? What kind of, what mode of transport are there monkeys have? What's Segway, my pretty, Segway. That's actually a Mandela effect. She just says Segway, Segway, segway, segway, segway. All right, if I could kick it off, if that's all right with you.

He is, yes. From Minneapolis, the Twin Cities in Minnesota. That's a fact I learned recently. There are the Twin Cities. Minneapolis and... I just didn't call. In Minnesota. I'd love to think if I may,

Dan Higgs, Matsna. Oh, Dan Higgs, Matsna. Well, his hat is. Okay, so we're in a green hat, but that's unrelated. Yeah. But Dan, on a quest for... Horse. A horse, his horse legs

horse like once we come a central he wants to be a central and he's just got these two boring human legs we started so surreal I thought we were gonna go with confidence or something we're gonna straight to horse legs I love that I was trying to help I just said it where? Dan he's like, he's like, and he's on a song, if I only had my horse legs. Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, my God, horse legs. Oh my God. Oh, I was wondering where that clip club was coming from. He's a whole movie.

He's just filmed from the waistline. You never see? More likely though, the wizard would give him a couple of coconuts. Here you go, mate. Ah, symbolic. Thank you so much, Dan. I'd also love to thank from Wabash or Wabosh Wabash in Indiana, the great state gods country in the United States. Kevin Haggity.

Kevin Haggity is of course looking for his... Appetite. Oh, he lost to the appetite. He lost appetite. Oh my goodness. Easy to do. People put some food in front of him and he's like, eh. At the same time as someone was doing a toilet paper argument, he's like,

ugh, that's really put me off. That actually, I don't like to think of the toilet. While I'm eating. Because it's in first of all, a gentleman never shits. And I really appreciate you being on board with that Kevin. So he's lost his appetite. But at the end, he can't get it back. He can't get it back, but at the end, the wizard says,

how about this, gives him a plate of avocado toast. And he I hate avocado takes one bite. I love avocado. I can't stop eating Yeah And then there's an avocado shortage For the heaven Kevin just goes too hard. I could luck Kevin with that And finally for male love to thank from Pachanum just in just in Melbourne here in Victoria, Australia, Ashley Wainwright. Ashley Wainwright, looking for some eyebrows. Oh, went to a box or a hand. What's the eyebrows?

Yeah, eyebrows. Shaped off. And looking for ones that she's able to control, a bit better, you know, she'd love to be able to do, you know, one up, one down, like twin the rock jumps. Oh, yeah. Kind of thing. but they have eyebrow control. Yeah. Yeah. Jess is good at it. Who gave you those? Who gave you those? Who is it?

I've got I can do one sort of I think but not the other at all. Yeah, your left is very good. I have terrible controls I've actually you find a way to get these eyebrows if you find out where I can get him I love hot tip send us a message. Thank you so much Ashley and good luck on your journey. May I thank some people? Please I would love to thank from North Walshian in Norfolk. I would love to thank Morgan Newsted Morgan Newsted Norfolk day. That's where I'm partridge is from isn't it? Yes, he does radio Norwich Norwich in which I think is in Norfolk and That's right. He did the documentary the he talks in the from the O's to us

He talks about doing a radio documentary on Norfolk because he told his wife he was doing Together with a bit of time away. And then he had to have to make the documentary. And then he said, what did he say? It's one of the best things I've ever done. No one's ever heard of it. Very funny stuff. So what is Morgan looking for?

I think the Morgan's looking for their TV remote. Oh, yeah. Right. It's kind of like catch cushion. I'm currently looking for my TV remote. Lost it. Lost weight. Oh, no.

How? I don't know. Can you, is it haven't really had enough time to dedicate to the suit? Sure. Because the kind of TV you can still turn on? Yes. Thank goodness. Yeah.

But turning off, I have to unplug it. Oh, that's an ink. So you push one of the side buttons that goes on, but turning off I have to unplug it. So you push one of the side buttons that goes on but yeah, I've done plugged it turn off. I hope you find it. I hope you're searching successful and I hope Morgan's is as well. Yeah, Morgan, I'll be right there with you. It is. Hey, I'm going to get it again. So and the wizard gives Morgan a universal. Yeah, their remote now has like some magical powers. Yeah. Their remote is now like it's kind of turned the TV into a smart TV.

Oh wow. It's very convenient. Yeah. No, like because he is really inconsistent with this wizard because he gave, didn't he give the, when the scarecrow wanted a brain, gave him sawdust. Yeah. And this time he's being, he's given something.

Actually, really helpful. Yeah, well, I mean, it's sort of, that's how the wisdom works. Yeah, he's unpredictable. Thank you, Morgan. I would also have to thank from Walla Walla in Washington. Yeah. We'd love to thank Sarah Steven.

Walla Walla had a real, I was a Walla Walla, so a W.A. That's Australia. Definitely, that's why I said it like Walla Walla. They might say it differently. They probably say Walla Walla. Probably. But I was like, that's where some Australia

is gonna be Walla Walla. So let me get in the character. I am an American. Walla Walla. Walla Walla Washington. Oh, she's added great on ears. I'm sure. Sarah is looking for her lost appendix. Was removed. Clearly without a permission, mind you.

The end of the book. Is that the bit that tells you what things are on what pages? Yes, looking for what you know, that's right. That blank look really made me panic. What is that a homonym? Two types of appendix. She's looking for both. Whoa. So if you see either, first you've got to find a book appendix. And that says what page.

What page is the treasure map defined, remove appendix? And yep, you will find both. That will link us again. Yeah. What page the treasure map defined her remove dependence. And yep, she will find both. So that's good news. Finally for me, I would love to thank from Dublin, in Ireland, Ian Kennedy. Ian Kennedy, looking for his, his, how do you say, how do you say, how do you say, Jéna Sekwa?

And you're looking for Jéna Sekwa. He's lost his Jéna Sekwa. Yeah, which is a hard thing to find. Yeah. Because a hard thing to describe. But guys, I'm looking for my, how do you say, how do you say? My, my, my Jéna Sek a qua and then it goes on this amazing

Journey learns so much about himself. Yeah gets to the wizard and the wizards like How can you lose your genus a qua you never lost a Never lost your genus a. And just in that moment, Ian just feels a warmth. Rushes straight through, he's pissed himself, and he goes, there it is. LAUGHTER There's my genus sequoia. I'm going to sequoia.

LAUGHTER What a silly little riff we went on. But enjoy that. David, would you like to thank some? I would love to. Thank you a couple more people on that. I'm talking invitation, you want to just do your job. Wasn't Toby done three, or yes you have?

No, I just realized I'd counted out 10, sorry Dave. I like one so many things. No worries, well let me. Your highlight system has fallen apart. Well let me take you actually two Western Australia this time, two Linward and I would like to thank Catherine Porter. Porter, beautiful winter beer. Oh, okay.

You work with that, looking for a, looking for a, an inner warmth. Oh, okay, yes. And a pub. And a robustness. They often describe Porter, a robust porter. Oh, looking for robustness, They often describe poor, a robust, poor, oh, looking for robustness slush in a warmth.

Yeah. And the, with it, just give them a large jacket. Yeah. Because Catherine wouldn't use to be famous for her robustness, but she's had, you know, a couple of weeks, she's like, I'm just feeling a little less robust, which is fine, of course.

Yeah, of course. But she wants to get her back. And that's where the journey's taken her. Well, I wish you luck. you luck Catherine Porter and next up I would like to thank from an unknown Location I can only assume deep within the fortress of the moles Oh, there's just a first name here and it is Jedadaya Jedadaya Jedadaya big thank you to you for your support.

Not sure where you are listening to this, but if it is in the fortress of the malls, please say hello to your mall leader. Ha ha ha ha. Hmm. Ha ha ha. Send them our best. Hey, we love the malls,

and we look forward to their eventual second coming. That's right. I've a one, welcome on you, mall, I've a lot of people. Ah, Jedadaya, sounds very much like Jetta Dyer, had a great hit song, Tess Lonn, which is a, uh, a slippery substance. Yep. And that is what Jetta Dyer is looking for.

A slip and slide. A slip and slide. A very big one. Yes, well, no, he's got it, but it's lost its slipperyness. Right, yes, and you don't want to know. No matter how much detergent he puts off. If you're done with that slippery stuff, you get in a burn. Yeah.

So it's just something to happen, and it's just, it's really sticking. Loop it up. Yeah. He needs some of that. Ball, oil, oo. Well, the whizzes got heaps of chocolate syrup. They're always not working anymore. Apparently yeah chocolate syrup, great substitute. Looks every time. Thanks to the diah. And finally I would like to thank from Bracken Ridge in Queensland. Nick

Dancer. Oh Nick, close to Nick Dancer. Oh, good stuff. Elton John also obviously had a whole album referencing the Wizard of Oz. You could go through so many pop culture references the Wizard of Oz, but he had a goodbye yellow brick road was a big album of his, wasn't it? Yeah, we did it in Elton John episode, didn't we? We did. Yeah.

I think you did. Yes, report on it. She's looking more confused than anyone. Nick Dancer though, our final intern here. What is Nick looking for? Nick, he's looking for his dance partner. Right, he's looking for love. Where is the dance partner? Looking for love in our business.

No, I mean just a dance partner. He's a competition. Oh, okay. His partner said they were going to the bathroom and they have not cut that. Oh, they got really nervous. Yeah, and so he's looking for his dance partner. A platonic dance partner? Well, I never. When I dance, I do the dance of love. Oh god. Even if it's just for that one dance, we form an intimate relationship for those three and a half

minutes. Yeah, in the end of the three and a half minutes we have a big fight. Really big fight, every time. I am a lot of work. I'm a nightmare. Thank you so much Nick, Jettadoy, Catherine, Ian, Sarah, Morgan, Ashley, Kevin and Dan. Thank you so much for your support. It means so much. It keeps the show running. Uh-huh. And we just want to thank a few more people quickly before we wrap it up this week.

And these great supporters of ours who have been on the shed out level or above for three straight years, they're entering the trip ditch club. This club is, it exists in our hearts, but also in... An airport hanger in Spain. Spain!

And it's beautifully air conditioned, don't worry. I know the Spanish heat. Yeah. Put some people off, but yeah. It's gorgeous. And because it's an airport hangar, you know, we fly private jets all the time. Yeah. To wherever you are.

Yeah. If you're in the triptage club, you just, you just call. And we can getcha. Yeah. There's an app for it. You use the app. You know when you sign up. You get it.

You get it. So in the club, people once you're into, you can never leave. It's sort of a real hotel California scenario. Yeah, sorry about that. A scenario. And in this club, it's a magical place. It's as big as you want it to be, as small as you want to be. The drinks list has grown every week.

Jess adds, I've said every week. And Dave always books a band to entertain. Who have you booked this week, Dave? Liza Manelli. Liza Manelli. He got recipients. From arrested development. Yes.

Her greatest role. She's famous for. She's famous for introducing the Wizard of Oz in 1959. I mean, what, 60 million people watched it, so yeah. 56 or whatever. And Jess, I'm on the bar. I'm on the bar. I'm a copy every year, so I just put in inflation.

Thank you very much. Perfect. Fucking myself. Why no, I wasn't, I wasn't going to go me not you You're correct. You're six You went 56 actually No, I meant no I mean 56. Oh, sorry. It was 45 million beautiful if you want me to correct it. Oh my god Say can you edit that when I look like an asshole?

And go over here leave it all. Jess is behind the bar. This week we have a, I've set up a big display in the corner of the bar. It is entirely edible. The yellow brick road is made of bricks that are actually potato cakes. Oh yeah. Really fun. All the trees. That's made me instantly hungry for potato cakes.

Oh my gosh. Well let's get some potato cakes. Trees, everything, it's all edible. There's little mini dorothy's made out of cake. That's made me instantly hungry for potato cakes. Oh my gosh. Well, let's get some potato cakes. Trees, everything, it's all edible. There's little mini d'orothes made out of cake. It's really fun. I want to eat a cake, Dorothy. There's a... Is there any jelly?

There's a, yes, but it is vegan. Do you know what d'orothes last name is? Wasn't in the original book, it came a little bit later. No. I think it plays off a little bit. It's a weather-related name, I guess, based on the tornado sort of gale. Oh, that's right.

That's right. Right, I was going to say, cold front. Windy. I was going to say El Nino. Rob Gel. Wealth man from the 2000s and 90s. Got a specific room. Oh, that sounds delicious. in the 2000s and 90s. Got a specific room.

Oh, that sounds delicious. I think recent weeks you've been making things that didn't sound very nice. So it's great. What do you mean? What? Some of them, one week you made poison. I'm working my last offer.

Yeah, but the point tasted fucking great. Poison has to taste great. My last word was delicious. OK, so I'm going to read out these names, Dave hypes them up because Dave, the biggest reward in getting into this club is Dave wants you to feel good just before you see, well, I mean, I really perform. And Mingle with the other inductees who've come before you.

And then, of course, Dave is putting himself out there by hyping you up. So Jess comes in and gives Dave a little hype as well. So everyone feels good. Here we go everybody. Woo, woo, woo, woo. All right, far about eight inductees today. More like, more like, great, and more like,

yeah, or like, your hot early. That's probably the peak everyone. You're more about it, it's fine, you got this. All right, from Kotati in Canada, it's Nissa Hess. Well, sorry to borrow from your show, Jess, but simply the Hess. Yes. Yes.

From day, this one means a bit to you, from self-ordering, greater man-chested, Sulford. Sulford, oh, they'll get offended by that. Sorry, from the hot man. Amat, isn't it funny? You particularly know that one? That would be true for all of them.

You could correctly answer it. Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sulfid. Sulfid. From Sulfid in Manchester in Great Britain, it's Thomas Rees. Oh, one question, Thomas.

Rees, Ling. Oh! Have a drink. Have a drink here, can I get to a Reeze? Yeah, thank you so much. The wolves didn't work. The winkies didn't work. I'm sending in the Reeze, the bees.

Ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah. Give back the day. No, that was fantastic. That was so funny. But it is Dave's time. Sorry, yeah. Honestly, if you can...

No Dave, This is yours From a place I spent a lot of time in my young years Colac, not colac Collac in a Victoria, Australia. It's Jen Connor. Oh Jen out of ten From royal oak in M.I Let's I'm gonna have to look that one up in the United States, it's Calvin Parker. Oh, Pucky, uh, ass right here. I'm a drink. I'm a drink. Pucky, your ass.

Pucky, your ass right here. Have a drink, Reesling. It is, of course, Michigan, which is the first of the MI. It makes sense. There's quite, I think there's four MI states there aren't there. Michigan. Minnesota. Minnesota. Mississippi, Missouri. I still go through all the states to get to sleep at night. From, oh, I love this place, Boise, Idaho, it's Cody Keltchor.

Boise, Boise, Boise! Cody Keltchor. Incredible name. Yeah, that's Cody Kelshaw. Boisey, Boisey, Boisey! Cody Kelshaw, incredible name. That's great, isn't it? Fanta, there's a home renovation show, not a home renovation show called The Boisey Boys. And they go around Boisey and there are these two guys

that are so different from each other. It's not a concept, but they're putting it on. Ha ha ha. Anyway, from Manchester in New Hampshire, New Hampshire, Dave Bedard. Dave Bedard, time to put the bad times to bed. Dave's here. Dave's here, good times on Luke. From Vancouver.

In British Columbia. Canada, it's Rory Kumi. Kumi, crazy. We're going to have a great time tonight. It's Rory Kumi. Kumi crazy. We're gonna have a great time tonight. It's a nice Rory. Sam said it called me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And from Putsdam in New York, it is in the United States.

It's Kaylee Mayhaw. Putsdam, we're for a good night. Yay! Welcome in Kaylee Rory, Dave, Cody, Calvin, Jen, Thomas and Nissa. Enjoy yourselves, make yourselves at home Jen, Thomas and Nissa. Enjoy yourselves, make yourselves at home and have a great old time.

And that brings us to the episode, Dave. Jess, who wants to boot at home? I'll do it, let me do it. I'll feel like. Thank you so much for listening to this week's episode. You can find us on socials at do-go-on-pod on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Our website is do go on pod dot com um and you know what just just stick it to him you know yeah

yeah yeah we're all fine I run inspired now yeah I'm really leaving yourself and stick it up and stick it up and yeah that's all I have to say, but I I can't really boot at home because I have to say goodbye last Okay, so I'll say thank you for that Jess Thank you to listen to for listening and I'll also say good bye Just wouldn't work if I did that first This episode is brought to you by Progressive. Most of you aren't just listening right now. You're driving, cleaning, and even exercising. But what if you could be saving money by switching to Progressive?

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