Do Go On - 3 - The Beatles (A brief history)

Episode Date: November 11, 2015

In her first report Jess Perkins takes on the mammoth topic of the best selling band in history: The Beatles. We hear how the Fab Four got together, broke hearts & records, and how approximately eight million people claim that they could have been in The Beatles. Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Yes, this is Do Go On This Show where we talk about something that we find interesting and the Wii in that Wii is myself Dave Wanuki and I'm here. As always, we're Mr. Matthew Stewart, hello Matt. Hi Dave, how do you do? I am doing good thank you my man. Do you go on? I will go on to introduce our other co-hosts which is just Perkins at the other end of the table for me, hello Jess. Hello boys how are we? We sort of pulled back the

curtain there by saying that we're sitting at a table. What do you think most people think that we're standing up? At a bar, wearing tuxedos. I'm wearing a tuxedos, I don't know about you guys. You always overdress for podcast recordings. And we're recording this on a Monday morning, so the time where everyone is at a peak for the week. Everyone's spirits are at an all-time high. Absolutely. Mainly because we're not at an office nine to five jobs. So there you go.

Sorry if you are listening to this at your office. But also, not sorry. Sucked in. Yeah, we are here and this is the show. Well, I will explain if you have not heard before, where one of us, one of the three, finds a topic that we find interesting. We prepare a report on that topic

and then we try and educate the other two. And this week, it is the first report from Jess. Yeah, it's my turn. You're turn to go on to Ejika. And the thing about this is that Matt and I have no idea what you are about to take us in. Yeah, no idea. And I do, I need to say a couple of things to start with.

You both warned me. You were like, it's a lot of work, Jess. And I was like, yeah, I got this. Yeah, that's right. We wrote our reports. We also thought, oh, yeah, two hours on Wikipedia. We'll be able to know this. It's quite a lot, so please.

Please tell your friends if you're listening to this because we've put too much effort into it. Yeah, and now I'm a little anxious because I'm worried that I've missed things. Basically, I'm worried you're gonna ask questions that I won't have the answers to. The problem with most of the topics we choose or probably most topics in the world is that there's always,

there's always more. Yeah, absolutely. And you keep going down the rabbit hole chasing new facts you're on and they unveil. Yeah, more and more. It's like an unveil. Reveal. Unveil.

Yeah, there's a ribbon cutting ceremony. Here's another fact you didn't know about. Unveil's wrong, right? Yeah, because of opening ceremony. Yeah, okay, good. But, um, though I eat going down the rabbit hole, I like to eat a scribe, factor finding like a drug addiction. It kind of is.

Going guys, let's rate some money to fight this terrible, terrible affliction. And once I'm thinking- Well, I like how you think of rabbit holes as a drug addiction. I think of them as like rabbit holes. No, but- You know, it doesn't, it doesn't go back to Alice in Wonderland. Yeah.

Isn't that where the rabbit hole is? Yeah, and uh, that opens up a whole world, doesn't it? Louis Carol was. She's not literally just in a hole, is she? Stuck there and her granddad has to come and get around. No, never, never liked that. I would never sort of lie through. Is that what happened?

A lot of crazy stuff. Granddad, I'm stuffing the hole. Yeah, a lot of crazy stuff that you would think about on drugs. So that is actually what it is, definitely. Yeah, munchies. There's eight me stuff. Oh yeah. What about all the things that there's like a, like talking animals?

Yeah, that's more. Talking caterpillar. Yep. There's a tweededle day and tweededle dumpling. That's not right. You're thinking about food again. Tweedle day and tweedle dumpling. Tweededle day.

Tweededle dumpling. Tweededle dumpling. Tweededle dumpling. TweededleD. TweededleD. TweededleD. TweededleD. That's what you have when you have the munch. You have the tweededleD. TweededleD. TweededleD. I'm actually going to change your name in my phone to TweededleD.

It's going to be very confusing. I'd be easy. TweededleD. Absolutely. TweededleD. We make such a great team. You little cuties. You will understand once I tell you what my topic is, you'll understand

that I have been enough more than I can true. But I'm the history of man villains. A summary. So just know that I have done my best and I've tried to find all the most interesting and most important facts. Okay? We I'm I think we could do this together Look, I believe in you. Thank you, man. I need it that hey Jess You know how we like to start this off those with a sort of vague irrelevant question. Yep, and yeah, okay And I feel like mine might give it away, but here we go Who would you or what would you say is the biggest?

Musical act in history. Musical act. Musical act. Well like a like. Ooh. What is the musical act? Is this like? It would come to mind for me, Elvis Presley. Okay.

Mozart. Really? Mozart, you're thinking, I think in classical composers, a Ludwig van B, a Mozart, a... Yeah. So what about... Biggest all time. The Beatles. Boom. Oh, a baby. a... What about... Biggest all time. The Beatles. Boom!

Biggest selling. Yeah. Are we talking about the Beatles? That's really great. That is really great. Yeah. Who is your favorite band? Favorite band.

Oh. The Beatles would be up there, I reckon. Are they actually your favorite band? I get my top three is Beatles, Tism and Pantera. They are so different. They are really different, vastly different. I think tism and definitely have some influence from the beetles. I don't know if they return any influence because the time lines in quite connect.

But there's heaps of beetles references throughout tism's career. There was one tour they did where they were dressed up with big signs above their heads. And I think about half the man had John written above their heads, and then about a third, the sums like an ad up, about a third ad, Paul. And then like a couple had George and only one had Ringo or something like that.

Does anyone Ringo? They are, just fun. I think that was their point. Yeah. Just for context, their Tism is like a really, really crazy Australian band. For our international listeners. Yeah, just climbing up. Especially and just the best. I think this idea kind of came about because a few months ago, might have even been around

Comedy Festival time. I was going through a phase of asking people first of what middle names were and then secondly favorite Beatles song and then it just got me back into it, well I've always listened to the Beatles but I just made me really obsessed with them for a little while and while I was researching I was listening to them they're just, they have so bloody good. They are so good. Who is your favorite Beatles song? McCartney. Or song? No, you're not. Or Beatles. I was meaning to ask song because you just brought that up and then but I asked a different question try to save it by that didn't anyway. I answer both

questions at once. Favorite Beatles mechanic because he's a lefty. That's a good reason. Yeah I've left-handed. Favorite song? It's hard though. You end up with a short list. You can't pick a fave. What do you have a favorite? Yeah, what is it something? Oh, I can't and my favorite Characters, yeah, you got the only number one written by him. Yeah But with the Beatles. He had number one so I meant Beatles. Yeah Do you have a favorite song? I have a favorite beat all yeah, definitely Paul. Yeah, you wrote all the better songs Wow That's so rare. Normally if you found

three people that'd be at least two John fans. Yeah. I reckon. Yeah. No, I think he's pretty good, but Paul, I think, wrote better songs in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah, right. Okay, that's interesting. I think he also wrote worse songs. It's hard to... Oh no, John wrote some pretty bad songs. Yeah, they had some misses. Like John's bad songs are just like weird and hard to listen to. Paul's were like, like too sweet and... Like corny, yeah. corny, yeah. I think my favorite songs would be Blackbird or...

Great. Here comes the sun. Which is another George. Oh, yeah, George. That is a George. And Blackbirds are, that's a Paul. Or is that a... Oh, I think it is a Paul thing. Yeah, I think that is a George. And Splatberg's, that's a poll? Or is that a, that was a poll thing? Yeah, I think that is a poll song. That's a really good song. Yeah. Great song. Okay, well my favorite, I have two. Yep. Yesterday.

Poll. That's a, that's a, that's a big one. Got a fun fact about that coming out. Oh, good, good, good. And another one, but she's actually a cover, but Paul sings, do you know the song, Till There Was You? Yeah, that's a pretty song. That is such a lovely song, and I once listened to that on a beach at night, and I never forget that. Oh, that sounds lovely. That's nice, yeah.

It's nice. The waves crashing away while Paul was singing. He wasn't there, Dave. You were alone. Well, he was in my heart that night. He's always in our hearts. So shall we... Yes, I'm excited because are you going to try and tackle the whole Beatles?

Well, that's the thing. You see now that I've... But the thing is big. It's big, but it's also just a 10-year period as well. Yeah, they went around for long, but they did a lot in that time. Yeah. Like, too much. And I also just wanted to... Because I didn't know a lot about how they started and...

And their story really runs like a, like a movie about a boy band. Do you know what I mean? Like if you saw a movie about this band, it's exactly how you think it would happen, like they start off really well, when they get some success and then they have a falling out and then they, you know, it's just everything, they were a bunch of bloody lyricans too. Oh my goodness. Oh well, Jess, I'm going to tell you the magic words, the Beatles, please. I do go on.

OK, well, let's begin in March of 1957. A great year, a good time. Classic. Actually, that was the way my mum was born, just realized. Anyway. Hi, mum. John Lennon, who was 16 at the time, formed a skiffle group with several of his friends

from the quarry bank school. Skiffle. Sk the time, formed a skiffle group with several of his friends from the quarry bank school. Skiffle. Skiffle. It's the word skiffle. Right, so it's a genre of music that has influences from jazz, blues, folks, and roots music. It's that type of music that used to use like homemade or improvised instruments, like the washboard and the junk. I was thinking of washboard. Yeah, yeah, that's it, Kazoo's guitars, banjo.

And the lager phone. Yeah. That's an Aussie thing. That's a ridiculous thing. That's like the bottle cap one, right? Yeah, so if you don't know, it's like you've got two planks of wood, sort of in the crucifix style shape is what I've seen. And then there's heaps of bottle caps nailed to it. And then you just jangle it like

And that is someone's job and they call it the Lager phone. There you go. That's beautiful um, so skiffle was a very popular style of music in like the first half of the 20th century. It had a bit it had this huge um, it sort of became popular again in the 50s in the UK um, now the band originally called themselves the Black Jacks. Do you know that they had other names? I knew them as the quarry men. Yeah, because they, that's exactly it, because there was another band in the area that was using the name the Black Jacks, so they changed it to the quarry. And it's not like the kind of days where

you can just plug it into Facebook to see if the band already exists. Exactly. You can just both turn up to the show and you're like, oh, no, I'm pretty sure we're playing the skew. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So then they became the quarry men, because they went to the quarry bank school, it makes sense, doesn't it? So then four months later, John Lennon met a 15 year old Paul McCartney, and he joined the band as a rhythm guitarist.

And in the following fibs, we're in 1958 now. McCartney and Vuddly's friend George Harrison to come watch the band is a rhythm guitarist and in the following fibs, so we're in 1958 now. McCartney and Voodley's friend George Harrison to come watch the band play. And George wanted to join but he was only 14 and John Lennon was like nice, too young. He can't, he's too young, we can't be in our band. Classic John putting George down already. Right, right. But Harrison kept persisting and after about a month of hassling and they enlisted him as the lead guitarist. So there you go. Fourteen.

So they were teenagers. I don't think I realized that. And how early they started, how young they were. Also, the fact that he's hassling and hassling and he's like, all right, fine, you can be the lead guitarist. Exactly. Yeah. It's like Paul's like, hang on, mate, I'm older and I've been to the band longer.

Yeah, yeah. Why didn't Paul get shuffled to bass guitar? That's coming up. Oh, sorry. Yeah, no, no, but there's a there's a story. Oh Oh boy, I do want to point it out as well that you you have a musical background Dave. Oh, yes Oh, I used to play in bands all through school and my instrument was bass guitar. Yeah One of the other reasons I would Paul a lot there you go. Matt, did you ever play in a sort of, were you in a band? I've never really been in a band. I've been in a conceptual band. Okay.

We've never played together. Sorry, what does that mean? In your mind, you had a dream that I was in a band. What? Well, yeah, we've talked, I used to have been a band that never played together called and this is But what sorry what do you mean never play together? Well, we we had the concept of the band and we we organized one jam session and I was I'm I'm a base owner. I don't call myself a base player I do owner base. I broke a I broke a string on that bass about two years ago. Still played as a three string. Which string?

The G string. Oh comedy. It wasn't comedy. That's just the string that broke. Yeah, but of course it was going to be the G. It's always the G string. Which is the highest string on a bass guitar? So I just like re-lent the couple of songs I know with three strings. Anyway, the band I formed with the Guiles working with it, Safeway, it was called Tony Abbott and the Moral High Ground.

And it was, this was what I was saying of her. And it was meant to be like, at the time, it was kind of like a, it seemed like a kind of weird reference, because he was just like a, I think it was Health Minister or something. He wasn't even that prominent. But now it's just like, that's a shit name for a band. But at the time, it was like, majority of people didn't know who that was. Yeah, we'll see you with the Health Minister in the Howard.

Oh, no, he was in the Howard government. Was this before? Yeah, so this goes a wall back. I was pushing trullies or something. That's great and Yeah, and then the guy that I was in that band with he also had a band and and I was in his band as well Which we never played sure and they were called Kerio Brian and the contentious issues. Oh my god. It's mean Well, there's a lot of names and the somethings. Yeah, no, that's so much fun and make band. It's made. Well there's a lot of names and there's some things. Yeah, no, that's so much fun to make.

Band, it's so much fun. It is fun. Give it a go. No, but I was in a band when I was in high school. And we were called cause of distraction. That's pretty good. Distraction. Cause of distraction, yeah.

Cause of distraction and the. You're right, it needed an Angela, but that's already too long. So I'm just glad we can all relate to Oh, we're all such musical prodigies. Being bands in Israel. We can all compare ourselves to the Beatles. I can play half a man on bass. I tried to learn one of my favorite Beatles songs is Andrew Burdkinsinger, a Lennon song. I'm like this is so cool. I've got such a fun bass line. I'm gonna learn the bass line. And then I tried to, I couldn't get it in the first half an hour. I couldn't get it anywhere near it.

And I was just like, oh, Paul McCartney writes some really cool intricate bass lines apparently. It just sounds like this bouncy fun bass line, but it was. It's hard. I played piano. And so I can play, oh, you should be be able to play yesterday so I could have serenaded you Dave. Oh thank you.

One of my challenges that I would always wanted to do would be able to play Martha my D. Like the opening to that is just ridiculous because your hands are just going spaz basically. But then I stopped playing and now I can't even play Chopsticks. So you know. Jess, what does your hands are going spaz-me? Because I'm fine with it. Do you go spaz-me? I'll tell you what I mean. Anyway, shall I go on?

Please, do go on. Okay, so by the next year, so we're in 1959 now. Right on. All of Lenin's school friends have left the group because they'd all gone on to, you know, do other things. I bet they regretted that. Right, there's so many people in this story that you're like, you're going to regret that. So, Lenin's now studying at the Liverpool College of Art. So now the band's left with three guitarists. Now, I'm not a musician,

but I do know that three guitars does not abandon make. Is there anyone on drums? That's exactly's exactly it. They would get, when they could find a drummer, they would play rock and roll music wherever they could, but they would just get people to just fill in and play the drums for them. I think mainly doing covers. At this point, they were calling themselves Johnny and the Moon Dogs. Which is amazing. I don't know that. Which is amazing.

I don't know that. That's correct. Yeah, that name didn't last very long, but there is definitely records that they were built under that name for at least three times. Johnny and the Moon does. Johnny. See, it's your favorite. Yeah, no, no, that's how you shouldn't make it.

You're gonna have a band name. Name and the. Johnny and the moral high ground. That's great. Another band from around that time from Liverpool called Jerry and the Pacemakers. That's a great name for band, right? Jerry and the Pacemakers. Great's a great name for him. Right, Jerry in the Pacemakers.

Great name. I love it. Yeah. So now here we go. Now a friend of John Lennon's from Art School, Stuart Suckliff, was a very talented painter. He was an artist. And he'd recently sold one of his paintings and with his earnings, Border Base guitar. Nice.

Yeah, he's like, I made some money, well, by a base. So he joined the band in 1960 and it was cyclical if he suggested the band change their name to the Beatles. But I think he was spelling it B-E-A-T-A-L-S as like a tribute to Buddy Holly on the crickets, I don't really. That doesn't, yeah. I mean, sure, it wasn't just like, he didn't spell just like the Beatles. No, that was apparently, um, yeah. It started with the word beat in it, but like, B-tells, yeah. But then they changed it to the Silver Beatles, spelled double E.

Right. I'm so glad they're not the Silver Beatles. Silver Beatles, right? And then it was Lenin who suggested changing the spelling to BEA, um, to include the word beat. Apparently, I did read somewhere that he had a dream that like somebody a man appeared on a floating pie or something like that you know that story as well as all your

great because you've had that yeah that sounds like something that would have happened yeah yeah classic yeah exactly so how a dream where man came to me on a park. And I said I'd put an A in the name, John. That's pretty much the one I read. Tony Abbott in the piece. I didn't put any of the name. I said who's Tony Abbott? And I woke up. And here we are. So yeah, they were going by the silver beetles and then eventually just the beetles by August of 1960 So it was like so August done in 60 that is when they are the beetles and at this stage still no drama No drama three guitarist in a bass player. Yeah, no drama So there was this guy called Alan Williams

He became the band's unofficial manager. He owned a coffee shop that the boys were all Regulsa He liked them. He got them their residency in Hamburg, which is sort of where they took off Had a big falling out with them when they refused to pay him that was funny Yeah, and a little fun fact Bryant Epstein Brian Epstein Became the bands manager later and he contacted Alan Williams to make sure there was no remaining contractual ties Williams And he contacted Alan Williams to make sure there was no remaining contractual ties. Um, Williams openly told him he's like, don't touch them with a fucking barge pole, they'll

let you down. Don't let me down. And they did. Um, so he's one of those people that walked away from the Beatles. Oh, dear. Yeah. He, uh, he even had a, uh, a memoir called The Man Who Gave Up the Beatles. No, sorry, The Man who gave the Beatles away.

What is it like? There's one chapter and then the actual story and then 11 chapters seem going, well, my life would have been better at this point if I'd been with the Beatles. Yeah, exactly. Probably wouldn't have married that woman. Yeah.

Probably wouldn't have had this crappy job. I always think about with those situations, though, right? If he stayed there, manager, we probably would have never heard of him, right? Brian Epstein was pretty good at his job and like if all his school mates were still around and there was never a spot for George in the parents. I was like they probably wouldn't have really been the Beatles. So it would be hard to get over it but at the same time. I think the one guy who could probably feel it is the drama who got booted for what

we do. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's yeah, absolutely and that's coming up Yeah, but it's his or for you So they were Get brings you back to Stuart Suckliff So he was with the band during their residency in Hamburg which in Germany obviously yeah, correct So they were sort of back and forth between Germany and the UK for a couple of years, gigging there. They got up to all kinds of mischief. So by this time they had Pete Best on the drums and keep in mind they were all in their late teens early 20s. Like they're still really young. It's pretty crazy.

Yeah, it's just even old enough to drink yet? No. And there's a fun fact about learning. Oh, yeah. Because it just, oh, you know what we're talking about. The old thing I like. So there's a club owner in Hamburg called Bruno Koshmider. It's so rude of me to laugh at it. I've probably said it wrong, but Koshmider.

Now, so he was the one that was... He owned the venue where they were playing during their Residencies in Hamburg. And he found out that they'd been performing at the rival top ten club, which was in breach of their contract. So he gave the band one month's termination notice and reported the underage Harrison. Now, Harrison would light about his age to stay in... in order to stay in Hamburg. So

he'd said he was 18, he was 17. So the authorities arranged for him to be deported. Deported. He got deported in late November and a week later, Cosmada had a McCartney and Pete Bess arrested for arson. What did they burn? They set fire to a condom in a concrete corridor. Condom in a concrete corridor. That's very difficult burn? They set fire to a condom in a concrete corridor. Condom in a concrete corridor. That's very difficult. One to set fire to anything in a concrete two to set fire to a latex condom. No. So in any, in, you should have been impressed. How would you set, Matt? Back me up here. The science of burning, that's a phrase in itself. That's how common it is. Yes. We'll be burning rubber. No's a phrase in itself. That's how common it is.

We'll be burning rubber. No, that's different thing though. Well, I'm impressed. I think that's a reported as well. And then deported. Dave, should we pause the podcast? I've got a condom right here. Let's see.

Wow, it's going up really quick. A little too quick if you asked me. Oh boy. A lot of flames in the studio. Oh, that is a putrid smoke. Oh, God. It was a use condom. Well, we really should have checked. Really?

No, you're not. So who's left if, um, if George has been deported? Paul has been deported. Yeah, Pete Best has gone. So Lenin and Sutcliffe are still there. Just hanging out going, God. Right, so they all get deported. Yeah, Pete Best has gone. So Lenin and Sutcliffe are still there. Just hanging out going, God. Right, so they all get deported. Lenin returns in early December.

So this is only in November. He just comes back a couple weeks later anyway. He goes back to the UK. Stuart Sutcliffe decides to stay in Hamburg through to late February because he's met a nice German girl and he's engaged. So he stays with his fiance, Astrid. So yeah, as I said before, they spent two years

gigging in Hamburg, sort of coming back and forth. This is kind of where they started to use stimulant drugs, you know, to maintain energy for late night performance. Biagra. Biagra stimulants. Very good. Very good. Very good. Thanks for patting me on the head. So 1961, Sutcliffe decides to leave the band and go back to pursuing his art studies. Ooh. You know, there's kind of that part of it, it's like, dude. But I'm pretty sure he wasn't very, was he any good?

I think he wasn't very good on the base, right? Ah, yeah, there are sort of stories that he wasn't interested. And he wasn't that interested. But see, it's funny because I did read that there were some reports that people said he had no stage presence. He wasn't, he was a bit shy about not being good, so he would sort of turn his back on the audience, but then other members of the band were like, no, he was great, very personable.

So I'm not really sure how good he was. So, but did he come back when he stayed in Germany and just go, I'm out, he stayed in Germany. So, I think they must have all met up and he's left them because he gave Paul McCartney's base and that's how Paul McCartney became the base player. So he sort of said here, you can use my base while you save up to get your own, but McCartney's a lefty,

so but Suckcliffe said to him, you're allowed to use it, but you're not allowed to restring it. Like you can't swap it over, can't be left handed. So lefty playing a right handed base. Right, so, does he just play it upside down? I'm not sure, oh, he might have just played it right handed.

I don't know if he flipped it over and played left upside down, or if he just played right. He's a good effort. Yeah, it's really difficult. It is hard. I played guitar left handed as a teenager, and I'm teaching myself the ukulele now and I'm doing it right-handed and my hands just don't work. This is weird.

Completely wrong, yeah. That story is almost well known that Paul McCartney took over once to its suckleve left, but what's less reported is Chaz Newbie. Chaz Newbie, ever heard of that name? No, but I love it. Yeah, right? So, uh... The Rivals bring in own...

It's whatever that German girl was called. Koshmider? Koshmider. Chaz Newbie. Chaz Newbie. He's a pretty good name as well. Pete Bess is a great, like, stage name. Yeah.

Right, so Chaz was a friend of the original Beatles drummer Pete Bess, and he played a couple of gigs with the Beatles playing bass in 1960 and John Lennon even asked him to return with them to Hamburg for their second trip but Newbie chose to return to university and later became a maths teacher. Could have been one of the Beatles. You could have been one of the Beatles. Every year he would start his UC7 class and be like all right guys I'm a maths teacher just so you know I was once in the Beatles. Yeah, okay Pythagoras. Yeah, do you see that as a positive or a negative? Would you prefer to have not had that experience at all and know regret or is it just a cool thing to be able to remember? It's a cool thing to whip out like to say hey

But I don't believe that you're any you would have Help them maybe yeah I'm sure you don't believe that you're any, you would have helped them maybe. Yeah, maybe. But if you're like, oh man, I could have been in there and I would have written some hits as well. Would you have been happy writing their co-tales? Yeah, but maybe, I mean, I feel like you get, it's like a decent footballer and a great team, you know, you're lift. Yeah.

You're lift to their standard or something, maybe. Maybe he could have written great songs. I reckon there's so many great songs that we've never heard. And if those songs are written by a Beatles member, they'd be seen as classics, right? Yeah, absolutely. Just because, you know, partially

because they were all very talented musicians, but also just because they had a direct access into people's minds. Right? If you're open to a song being great, the first time you hear it, you're much more likely to give it a chance and someone going, here's a demo that I just made in my backyard. Yeah, still mate, that sounds like a really bitter man saying something like that. Yeah, I could have done it. I would have, the white album, yeah, I just would have made it blue.

Look, blue album. You would, yeah, totally, it would be hard. And you'd know why everyone would be like, oh, right mate, good on you. But I reckon that'd be part of you who would really believe that you could have been a part of it. Maybe, I don't know. I don't know, that's why I thought.

Look, I'm see-sawing here. I'm like, all he did was make the right decision for himself at the time. That's right. So chairs moved on, he's doing this math thing. And then is that when Paul's like, all right, I'll do some bass. Yeah, so that's, so when.

I've never heard about that guy, so that's cool. Yeah, that was a bit earlier. So that was sort of a four-suck cliff lift. You know when people always say, he was the fifth beat all day. That guy was like the 19th beat all day. Yeah, pretty much, pretty much. So you're now Paul's's rocking slap under bass.

Um, it's a very weird reference anyway. So they're going back and forth between the UK and Germany, and in April of 62, they get back to Germany, and they grill at the airport by Stuart Suckliff's fiance Astrid, telling them that he died of an aneurysm. He was 21. 21. 21. 21. And it's a freak medical thing that...

He'd been having headaches, quite bad headaches, by the sounds of the reports or like the symptoms, it sounds like migraines. He was having pretty serious migraines and then collapsed, and I don't think they could revive him. It turned out it was an aneurysm. Oh my God. And then, just love the idea that she didn't want to ring them.

She decided just to appear at the airport. Track their foot. Maybe she would offer them a lift and that he died the night before she said, well, an airport lift is very difficult to get. I'm still going to come through and pick them up. It's also probably hard to just call people back then, right? Especially if they're

on the mood. International yeah. Is she know where they are? Like does she know their number? I think it had happened about a week before. Sorry. Yeah, no, it's a weird one. But of a courtesy call Astrid, come on. Because I was going to say like- I look I'm on castred so- For some reason I'm sticking up for Astrid. Yeah, whatever Astrid. But so yeah, I was going to before I learned that he died, I was gonna be like, he left the Beatles to pursue painting. Like what an idiot, but he's a very talented artist,

apparently, and unfortunately died at 21. So he never got to see how successful they got, and therefore feel the jealousy that we think the other side. He's the end of that. He dodged the jealousy. He died on top, like he was great. He was in the, he was in the peak. Now we're in 1962.

A great year. The band gets a producer, George Martin. Now Martin's first record. The fifth beetle. Not to be confused with the game of the Roenskot. Oh. That's George Ar-Armarton. That's George Martin. It was there at George Ar. Mutton. Yeah, this is just George Mutton. He must have the A. Mutton. Maybe.

It was there at George A. Mutton? Yeah, there was just one. Oh my god, it's too complicated. So, Mutton's first recording session with the Beatles took place at EMI's Abbey Road Studios, the very famous Abbey Road Studios in London. I have heard of it. We just cut a hit record. That's very good.

No, the accident's okay. Keep it coming. You're starring Ringo on this episode. Yeah, well, here he comes. Because this is in June of 1962. Now Martin immediately complains to Brian Epstein. I keep saying Epstein or Epstein. Epstein's what I know it is.

Epstein is then. So he complains to Epstein about Pete Best. He's like this guy. Despite his name, he is definitely not the best. He is a crap drummer. I reckon we get a session drummer in for this record, right? Now they were already apparently thinking about getting rid of Pete Best. So the Beatles replaced him in mid-August with Ringo Starr. His real name is Richard Starrke, but you probably knew that. He left the band Rory Storm and the Hurricanes to join them. There it is again!

Oh, yeah. And then it was a great time for the something and the something. Rory Storm and the Hurricanes. And was it Ringo a name that he was already known as? Or did he decide to have a cool name when they were rock star? It was a nickname that started apparently they called him rings to start with because he would wear a lot of rings and then that became ring go a little bit later. But apparently I can't remember what song it was. I did read you can hear I think John Neil out are you

ready Richard at the start of a song? So they might have called him Richard. Right on, right on. Yeah, yeah, but ring go was sort of a name that came later. I'm so glad I remember these facts. That's great. That's a great fact. I had no idea that that's why they're called in Ringo. So Ringo's in, Pete Best is out. How often are nicknames way more disappointing when you find the backstory? That was a pretty disappointing name. Oh yeah, it's Ringo's.

Oh, God. It's dumb. So September 11 of that year, no, it's many, many years before that September 11. They were in the Twin Townowers. Oh my god. Cutting a hit record. It's getting worse. They cut two originals. Love Me Do and PSI Love You, which became their first UK Top 20 hit in October. Which PSI Love You was the...

Was the B side. Was the B side right? Right. Love Me Do. And every song on that album had love in the title. That's not true, but it sounded like... I'm only sticking to true fat. All right, great. Sorry Matt, come on. Love me do.

PSI love you. Love, lovey, love love. There was one of the twiddly-dead doubling. Tism had his album, it was probably the biggest album called Machiavelli in the four seasons. And that was like this fake band that they put it out and it looked like that was the band who was releasing it. On the back every song title was, it must have been taken the piss out of the beat but

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And they recorded an album of the same name in one 10-hour session on the 11th of Feb in 63. 10 hours smashed out an album. That is unbelievable. Isn't it? That's ridiculous. So this is a little fun fact. By mid-year of 63 the Beatles were given billing over Roy Orbison on a national tour. And that's where that hysterical outbreak of Biddle Mania had begun. Like following their first tour of Europe

in October they moved to London and they were constantly mobbed by screaming fans. They even required police protection almost any time they were seen in public. Isn't that ridiculous? What year is this? That's 63. So the first album is just dropped. Yeah. So this is totally just boy band made as well. Totally, yeah, yeah, yeah. And later in that year she loves you became the biggest selling single in British history. Oh my god. That's pretty big. Now the EMI's are the record label. Their American label capital hadn't released any of the group's records, but they were

finally persuaded to release its fourth single. I want to hold your hand and meet the Beatles, which was the identical to their second British album with the Beatles. So they changed it for American audiences to meet the Beatles So yeah, they convinced capital to invest $50,000 in promotion for this then completely unknown British act But surely that's just a you seeing how crazy they're going in London. Yeah, well, we can probably do well over here Yeah, I think at that point English bands British bands hadn't done well ever and never translated it across so that they really started that yeah as we'll find it.

That's the final the British invasions coming. Yeah absolutely so the album in the single became the Beatles first US chart top is. So it did go to number one. Yeah nice. Nice. A 70 million people watched them on the Ed Sullivan show which was approximately 34% of the American population Wow one in three people saw them on TV 70 million. It's probably one channel, but anyway Yeah, they didn't have the the on demand and all the free-to-wear channels that we have now

The more you talk about the less impressed I am. Yeah, okay. Well 34% of the population is pretty good still That is for this unknown band, you know? That is amazing. And in April of 64, Can't Buy Me Love became the first record to top American and British charts simultaneously. And that same month, the Beatles held the top five positions on the Billboard single chart.

That's crazy. Top five was all the Beatles. So Can't Buy Me Love, Twiston Shirt, she loves you. I want to hold your hand and please please me. That is so great. Isn't that incredible? It's just by the album.

Ono but back then, the singles weren't on albums I don't think. The Beatles always release singles but now they always include those on the album. I don't think they included their singles on the albums. That makes sense there. Okay, because Oh, that's how it goes on the albums That makes sense there Yeah, okay, because yeah, that makes a bit more sense And there was something, so this is when their first movie comes out as well A hard day's night It opened in America in August, it grossed 1.3 million dollars in its first week

That's ridiculous Yeah, that's a lot of money in our own Especially, and they were pretty crap movies as well They weren't good, but they was something I didn't write it down That's ridiculous. Yeah, that's a lot of money. So back then, especially. And they were pretty crap movies as well. They weren't good. But they was something, I didn't write it down, but it was basically they had like a three film contract to coincide with soundtracks that would go out. So it was like an album and a movie would come out at the same time.

And that's, they were very aggressively merchandise. There's like the Beatles, Wigs, Beetle Clothes, Dolls, Lunchboxes, a cartoon series, which I'd love to find. From which, because of Epstein's ineptitude at business, the band made surprisingly little money. They didn't make a lot of money. So you got that cafe bloke, he'd be making heaps. He'd be making heaps.

It's crazy that they're able to survive all of that and with their reputation intact. It feels like any band that do all of that stuff now, they're never going to also be seen as a great music band. That's really cool. Exactly. Like our kids aren't going to listen to one direction and be like, wow, mum, you know, I'll apologize to them for a while. Yeah, like even now, like one direction of scene has been quite lame, but the Beatles,

it seems like they were seen as being cool at the same time, or maybe they weren't there until later. Yeah know the stones were sort of the meant to be the bad boy equivalent of one. Yeah, and it was mostly like young women going pretty crazy for them, but I don't know, maybe they were still cool. I don't know, we weren't there. We'll never know. So that's sort of how the Beatles opened the American market to British invasion groups like the Dave Clark five the Rolling Stones and the Kinks

That's sort of how a lot of British acts ended up cracking into the American scene, which is and Jerry and the pacemakers Jerry and the pacemakers Okay, so in in by 1965 Lenin McCartney really wrote songs together Although by contractual and personal agreement, songs by either of them were credited to both. Did you know that? Yeah, that's kind of crazy. And then since John Lenin's died McCartney has tried several times to make it the ones

that he wrote as listed as McCartney's slash Lenin. And Yoko said no-no. Yeah, Yoko won't have a bar. That's interesting. Yeah, it is, isn't it? Because yeah, I think there was occasionally, like like they'd touch them up a little bit each other songs But for the most part that like they wrote them and sometimes even recorded Beatles songs was one of them wasn't even there Yeah, yeah, they started to be quite a bit of animosity. They went to please with each other after a while

Oh, please please me. Oh Very good. So, very good. So it's 1965, they toured Europe, North America, the Far East, and Australia. So what's the Far East? No, I do. It just is the Far East. Or the Orient.

Oh, well, can you do us a? The Far East. Oh, goodness, the Far East. It's tested on the tour, visiting the Far East and people in Asia are like, is that us? Yeah. Is that us? Are we from east from what? Yeah, east from here is them. Yeah, that's where he is.

Go far enough, east you'll get somewhere. And that's when their second movie, Help, came out as well. That's the only one I've seen. Yeah. What can you describe and see in any of their movies? What's it like? It's a comedy, it's actually pretty, it's really funny. Yeah, they're quite funny and it was filmed in England, Austria and the Bahamas. And they do the soundtrack, so the album help is sort of the soundtrack, including the best song ever, yesterday.

Yes, they are of help. There you go. Now in June, something, this is still 1965, in June, the Queen of England ever heard of it, the Queen. The Queen of England rings a bell. Ringo's a bell. I loved it. Oh, man. Oh, dear.

I loved that it is still 50 years later, the same Queen that we were referring to. And that's pretty cool, right? So cool, yeah. She's a boss. She announced that the Beatles would be awarded the MBA MBA so the member of the Order of the British Empire Now that announcement sparked some controversy Some former MBA holders returned to their medals. Oh my god Really?

Well, they were like war veterans and You know had done a lot for the so they were the first of the celebrity It looks like it because yeah, everyone's a night now. I'm John's a night. Yeah, I had done a lot for this. Oh, so they were the first of the celebrity in the years. Yeah, it looks like it. Because, yeah, everyone's a knight now, Elton John's a knight. Yeah. Rowan Atkinson. Yeah, I think, and it's always for charity work or something. Exactly, yeah, yeah, but.

Yeah, Roger Moore for his charity work. And there's was for like service to the music and to see. Oh, that's fantastic. And Lenin even sort of made a joke like, well, we deserve it more. You know what Lenin's like. Oh, yeah. He changed his mind about it a lot. So he's about, he's about what my age at this stage, about 25. Yeah, yeah. What have we done? Nothing. Fun fact though. He's actually, to be honest, if I got an NB right now, a lot of people would be returning this in protest. What the, who is that guy? This is guy. So that's the fact he facts.

He returned his medal in 1969 as an anti-war gesture, which is an interesting one. It's kind of a funny story actually. He was never all that happy or proud of the medal. So four years after accepting it, he got his show for Les Anthony to go to his Art and Mimi's house where the metal was, pick it up, take it to the Buckingham Palace, just pop over to Buckingham Palace and return it with this lettering close.

He said, your majesty, I am returning this MBA in protest against Britain's involvement in the Nigeria Biographer thing against our support. Did you actually write the thing? No, I didn't. Against our support, it gets better. Against our support of America and Vietnam and against Col Turkey slipping down the charts.

Col Turkey was his latest record. With love, John Lennon. And that is why he is not in my top three favorite Beatles. Yeah, so that's sad. He's your least favorite Beatles. He's just not a good guy. He was also, yeah, I didn't realise that I think I read a brief note somewhere yesterday that he was like his unknown spousal abuser, is that right?

Oh really? Yeah, not very good to his partners. I didn't realise that as well. Yeah, he doesn't sound, And in the more research you do, he just sounds like a bit of a dick. And he changes his mind quite often as well. Like he was quite cocky about getting the NBA and then he changed his mind and then he returns it and then he's like, oh, I regret returning it.

It's like, well, just come on, man, just grow up. As far as protests go, getting your chauffeur to send a magazine, oh yeah, this guy, he means it. And it's just a gesture, because you can't actually take, you can reject the metal, but the owner itself can't be returned. He's still an NBA. So it's just a gesture of giving back

a little piece of metal. The only way you can get that is if you do something terrible, like Ralph Harris and you get it taken away from you. You can't get rid of it. Yeah. Give it back. So I'll make it. Yeah. Give it back. All mate, Johnny.

Yeah. So this is kind of where their music style starts to change a little bit with the 1965 rubber soul. And they start to experiment a little more with exotic instruments like in Norwegian wood that has a citta. So I said it like that, what I did. That citta, the classic Norwegian instrument. Yeah, that's it.

Right, and isn't rubber souls like a derogatory term for like what soul music I think? So I think it was something that was said against them and then they sort of embrace it. Maybe. So they started to... No, that's a great little tidbit. Yeah, I'll say it's true. Okay, good. Yeah, so you know the music, you know that there's a

Quite a change they go from really poppy to a bit more experimental and slower and it this is this is where it all starts to happen So summer of 66 There's a whole big controversy because John Lennon made a remark That had the British newspaper reporter. Oh, oh no he had made a remark to a British newspaper reporter. He said, Christianly will go, it'll vanish and shrink. I needn't argue with that. I'm right and we'll be proved right, we're more popular than Jesus now. That's quite a famous thing that he said. I definitely knew he said we're bigger than Jesus or more popular than Jesus, but the fact that he's saying, Christianity will go.

Now, a bit of a silly thing to say, people set fire to their stuff. Like, people put in the record. Because I thought that at the time he made the comment and no one really picked up on it until Americans published it later on. Exactly right, yeah, yeah. It was widely reported in the US.

I don't think the British really paid much attention to it. Yeah, I think it was like nine months later or something. Yeah, but the US would not have it It is like a who can then like yeah in the south. It was not a good thing to see. Yeah Yeah, he has like it Christianity is shriveling right at least in the West so not in the far East mat Wherever that is Yeah, that's a good point. I think a few people or a few people, I think a few different countries or cultures were a bit upset by it, but it was worse in the US, where they were set to begin a tour just two weeks after the controversy erupted. Oh, do you? So they were going to go there. It included death threats against the group. Like the US were really not happy about it. And

so it says largely out of concern for the safety of his fellow band members he did apologize right so he's like all right i don't want to do the acts and i don't want to get hurt i don't want to get hurt that's great that's great so he apologized but i just think that's kind of funny that i didn't realize the backlash and if they do the two uh... anyway, that's pretty brave, I think. Yeah, I don't think I'd ever heard the full quote either. Yeah, I only heard that last bit. And I thought someone had explained it to me that he was making a joke like saying it's ridiculous how it, but it doesn't sound like that at all in the context.

No, it's making why don't comment about Christianity. And as a Christian man, myself. Do you forgive him? I forgive him. That's what we're all about. Exactly. Also, I'm not a Christian man, but I forgive him anyway. Did I just bless him?

Anyway, look, I was a Christian man, so I think it's OK for me to joke about such thing. And I am bigger than Jesus, because he was quite a short man. Was he? I have no idea. Fun fact, Lenin, McCartney and Ringo were all 5'11". George Harrison, 5'18". Really? But they were all the same height.

That is, and they're a same. I read that yesterday. That's interesting. 5'11". I'm 5'11-ish. I reckon I'm 5'18. I reckon I'm 5'18. I think I'm 5' I'm fine. I'm five eight. You'd be five eight. Yeah. Five eight. So who's George is my heart? Your George. Thank you. And Matt is everybody else. I yeah right. I think I think I'd

read at some point that because George was a little bit younger like you're saying he was never quite respected by the others. They always kind of treated him like a younger brother. Yeah. Did you pick anything up like that? Yeah, not directly, but you do kind of get that feeling a little bit. And it took him ages to really start being allowed to write, have songs included on albums. And I say ages, it's all relative because they're only making albums for less than 10 years but they're last time was not in 70s.

Yeah. And you said their first one was not in 60. Oh, not in 60. So it was a bit. Oh, yeah, that's a two, yeah, yeah. So they were pretty active from 60. Yeah, I can't believe like when you see footage of them through the years,

just how much they changed hair styles, fashion, everything, I would have assumed. As a kid, I did assume it was over 30 years or something. Yeah, basically. I a kid I did, assumed it was over 30 years or something. I was blown away when I found it, it was only 10 years and they did so much, so many hit songs, so much of an impact on music. And then like other bands who were seen as kind of being their equals or similar, like the stones, they're still going, stretched out over, what are they being on for 100 years now, so they've been there quite a long time.

Yeah, it's ridiculous that they've lasted so long. And that they're appreciated by generations. Like I said, they started to make music as teenagers the year my mum was born. So she wasn't even really into them until she was older and then has passed that on to my generation and then they just keep going. My dad was born a couple years before in 53 and so he has some memories. He says he's got this vague memory of Beatles fans,

young Beatles fans in Australia dressing as Beatles. Like as actual, like yeah, the Beatles is like, it's like kind of crazy and it got pretty hectic down here as well. Yeah. Like that Melbourne gig at the festival hall. Apparently it was, they played two shows or something, but you couldn't hear them. People, I've heard people who were there to talk about, like, you couldn't hear them.

And everyone there was screaming, it's like, what are you there for? Yeah. And isn't that kind of why they ended up giving away life performance? Yeah, I think so, yeah, it just got too much. Yeah, I think it was just kind of like, well, what's the point of playing a few? No one's listening anyway. I just stand there for an hour and just for a minute. People are literally just there to be in the same room as them.

I can't see them. It's not like now where there's, there'd be big screens and everything. And you could see them on the screen. They'd just be in the same room as them screaming at them. That's the dream. So weird. But first off on my time machine. Totally. I would definitely go see him live. But I think the one I'd go to would be the rooftop.

Totally. That's fine. That was in London, was it? I guess you're going to tell us about that anyway. Some reason I was thinking it was in New York, but that makes sense. Yes, London, I'm pretty sure. And they play get back about eight times. Oh, really? Yes, a film from different angles. Yeah. So it was all pretty much just a big stunt. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I'm sure Jess will tell us more about that as we go on. So what year are we in now? We are 66. And we're up to the Beatles, which is frequently called the White Album.

Okay, and that's sort of where it definitely shows their changing in styles. So the rifts were artistic. Lennon was moving towards brutal confessionals. McCartney was leaning towards pop melodies. Harrison immersed himself in Eastern spirituality. And Lennon drew closer to his wife to be. Yoko, oh no. Right, so.

Oh, Yoko. Oh, damn, I was gonna say that exact little thing. Damn, sorry Dave, I felt you doing that. I just remember another Tism fact with them and the Beatles. Their last album was also a white album. And it was pretty much just looked the same as the white album and it was called the White Album. It's fair with an end at the end they're like it's not quite, it's like the Beatles but it's not like everything is sort of. No just a little fun fact here because Lenin and Yoko Ono's two versions album, which is the full frontal noodle on the back covers,

front and back covers, full frontal noodle, I've read that very strangely. I was released the same month as the wide album and stood up so much outrage that the LP had to be sold wrapped in brown paper. And the Beatles went to number one, two versions picked at number 124. Oh, I imagine that you would think that you have enough cloud to get the top 10 that people would want to hear, what you and your lover or whatever working on, but 124.

Yeah. And that was the only double album as well, I think, was it the what album? And I was like, just had heaps of crazy ideas on it right. Yeah, yeah. That's the one with like a revolution, where you're just gonna number nine. Number nine.

Do you, I don't know. Now that's a Tism thing. Oh, that was one's made the Simpsons. Oh, what's that? Remember when they were in the number eight, it's burps, so I had to buy these burps. Yeah, that's right. And he's wearing like a,

number eight, a total neck or something. Yeah, and she orders a drink in a hat. Oh yeah, sir, I guess it'll neck or something. Yeah, and she orders a drink in a hat Oh, yes, I would have a Shit what is it with the plum? It's a plum floating in a Served in a man's hat And he just whips it out there you go It's great. Sorry, it is in fact. Well, no, I just don't know if I might not have got this at the time, but it was Because I don't think I knew about that revolution number nine, whatever it was.

That a song and the chorus went number nine, number nine, number nine, number nine. Your meal is ready. That's great. That's great. Okay. I feel like that Tism is sensible. This is serious mum. That's great. That's great. I feel about their tis and its tensed for this is serious mum. This is kind of becoming the Beatles slash tis and episodes. I like it.

We're learning about the Australia's greatest act as well as the UK's greatest act. Yeah, exactly. So now we're up to 68, a great year. Have you said that about every year? They're all great. They're just getting better. Yeah, great. I wasn't alive for them, but I assume they're great. This is where relations between the Beatles were getting a bit not good. So that was great.

Yeah, it was a great year. Ringo star quit for two weeks stormed out so So McCartney jumped on the drums for back in the USSR They also took turns in a way. Oh and dear prudence. He was drumming as well Lenin had lost interest in collaborating with McCartney whose contribution on obla obla do obla dar He scorned as granny music shit So it's a great song though. Thank you John. Yeah, so it wasn't going very well. Intentions were further aggravated by Lenin's romantic preoccupation with the avant-garde artist

Yoko Ono. He insisted on bringing her to sessions despite the groups well established understanding that girlfriends would not allow to miss studio. Imagine the awkward look like you're singing into a microphone, just looking at it like going, oh bloody, whoops, that's all wrong. Sounds like she was a real yakawano to the group. Yeah, in fact, that's where the phrase was born. It's not a coincidence, it's a name. Oh yeah. Now, this is where Lenin later described recording this album.

He was like, every track is an individual track. There isn't any Beatles music on it. It's John and the band, Paul and the band, George and the band. Ringo and Holidays. Yeah, because he bailed. And Macauntny, a bit nicer, just recalled that the album wasn't a pleasant one to make. So they're not very happy. Is this the wide album? Yeah, and this is sort of where they've identified that these recording sessions is the start of the bands break up. So they attempted to

smooth over their differences in early 1969 at film recording sessions. So the idea I think was to make a film but when the project fell apart hundreds of hours of studio time later no one could face eddling the tapes. Eventually a record producer Phil Specter did it. Look at him now. Yeah, look at him now So that was sort of the footage that was used for let it be which is essentially a documentary of their breakup Which includes the impromptu January 30th 1969 rooftop concert at the Applecore headquarters Which was their last public performance as the Beatles again Again, paraded by the Simpsons.

That's right. Wearing the same outfits and everything in the video, and the Simpsons is great. I've learnt so much from the Simpsons. That was the B-shops, right? Yeah. The B-shops. Number 8. Which is funny because Barney was like the Lenin.

Yeah, he definitely was, yeah. So was that a main home of the Paul? I think Homer would have been the Paul must have been Because he was like he was riding tunes on the piano riding song Yeah, and then who else was in the band up who up who and Chief Wigan was replaced by Barney and principal Skinner was the fourth Principal Skinner, that's it. So our principal Skinner was the Ringo all the George anyway I think they were a barbershop quartet for some reason.

Yeah. That was so funny. That was great. Hello, my baby. Hello, what are you doing? Anyway. So they were trying to sort of smooth things over. They didn't go very well.

And they split up. They've gone this separate ways, Bubbibedels. And then for years, to what year was this? 1970. 1970. So there were at least two more albums right? I mean wrote and then let it be yeah, yeah But they were a call I'm pretty sure they were recorded in the reversal

Yeah, that's right let it be was Abby Rhodes the last recorded one but then but release which is probably my favorite album It's a cracker, but yeah, that's that's the great like often bands when they fall apart It's not usually when they're still making awesome stuff Oh, yeah, it's not probably We're a bit shit now. Yeah, and they go separate ways, but they were still doing well They just weren't getting along and they all kind of went on to do Individual stuff like solo careers and they collaborated with each other quite a bit During their solo stuff even though they didn't necessarily get along you wouldn't really get all four of them together, but they'd appear on each other's solo

stuff. So there was always speculation that they would get back together. What do you think ended those speculations? Lenin, 1980. I thought you were going to say Lenin made another comment. No, I'd better. No, he disturbed fan. Uh, murdered him. That famous photo of Lenin and Yokohona were there lying on the ground, and he's naked and like,

spooning her, but not really spooning her. Oh, yeah, that's right, yeah. That famous photo, that was taken the day that he was murdered. Did you know that? I did not know that that was the day. It was taken that morning by famous photographer Annie Leibuts. She's still going? It was supposed to morning by famous photographer Annie Leibouz.

She's still going? It was supposed to just be him, but he insisted that Yokoa and I was in it. And Annie was kind of like, she was kind of like, it's pretty hard to say no. Yeah, and she sort of had to guarantee she's like, yeah, I reckon I can get it on to the cover for you. Because it was John Lennon, she's like, oh,

I guess they'll just have to take it. Little did she know that later that night, Mark David Chapman had traveled to New York a couple of months earlier with the intention to murder John Lennon, but changed his mind and returned home to Honolulu. Oh my God. He's a Hawaiian guy, come on.

And then he was like, now probably a little bit later, and he went home. He went home, this is a few months earlier, and then he's come back on that day in October, December, sorry. This is a few months earlier and then he's come back on that day in October December sorry and He earlier in the day he asked Lenin for an autograph and then he just waited outside the Dakota Did you get the autograph? Yeah, he did and apparently they chatted a little bit. Oh my god right and

Then he He waited outside the Dakota Which is the building that Lenin lived in and when Len returned home, Chapman fired five bullets from about three meters away. Two of the bullets hit him in the back and two more in the shoulder. This is really strange. It's funny actually, it's not funny at all. The surgeon said that even if he'd been shot while on the operating table surrounded by doctors, they could not have saved him. Like, there's no way he was going to survive. Just really good shots.

Great shot. Pretty sure, I remember hearing an ambulance or the car that ever drove into the hospital, he'd get in the car and someone said, are you John Lennon? Wow. That's pretty weird. Is the weird as well.

No, you think John Lennon died? Wow. Well, okay, and this is strange. The surgeon's noted as did other witnesses that at the moment Lennon was pronounced dead All my loving came over the hospital sound system. Oh my god So one of their songs played the moment that he was pronounced dead. Oh, it's all that's gonna happen one of their songs. That's true They're so pretty big like to point out that it's a pulsar. Oh Bit brutal. Well, it's a Lenin McCartney.

Oh, it's a Lenin McCartney. That was in the days when they were still collaborating, right? It's a McCartney Lenin, thank you for coming to pull. Exactly. Oh, that is not a great guy, but still terrible that he got murdered. Do you think there was any chance that they might have got back together if he did kick on? I don't know probably not. I don't think they None of them need the money. That's usually the thing

The stones don't need the money. They're still they haven't broken up. They just obviously just keep doing right Yeah, it's hard to speculate isn't it? I feel like Lenin McCartney's relationship was never very good After but what's we're interesting like we say okay Leninin doesn't seem like the nicest guy, but his death triggered the most amazing outpour of grief around the world on this unprecedented scale. So his remains were cremated and there was no funeral and there was this crowd outside her home just chanting and singing, singing his songs and she sort of sent word to them that they were keeping her awake because they were just standing out on the street all the time, just grieving.

So she asked that they reconvene Central Park, Central Park, the following Sunday for a 10 minutes of silent prayer. So on the 14th of December, 1980, millions of people around the world responded to owners request to pause for 10 minutes of silence to remember John Lennon. So 30,000 gathered in Liverpool, the largest group over 225,000 in Central Park, all gathered together. And for those 10 minutes, every radio station in New York City went off the air. Wow! That's a pretty big rate for a musician's death. Like that impact is incredible. That's a good one to sort of start to wrap up with, isn't it? And then John Lennon died.

John Lennon died. And where are they now? Yeah. They've uh, are they've done the heaps of stuff? Yeah, they've all done some good things. Yeah, they have. And like I wanted to go into their solo stuff as well, but there's just still so much. Like they all did a lot. I think Paul McCartney did a lot with wings and George Harrison did a lot of stuff.

And it's everything crazy. It's everything crazy. It's done so much. That's right, Roy Orbison's got the last laugh there. He got to come back here and Ringo star voice to fat controllers So they've all got stuff going on. I think they all had did they all have number one singles I don't know about Ringo. I think they all did it in Ringo. I think you might be all 16 You're beautiful and you're mine

He must have been in his 30s when that came out. That's weird. I don't know if that was a hit or not. Joking, he still performs it live in his 70s. Probably. It's creepy now. If it was a hit, I'm sure he would. He's probably just things you're 60.

You look. He, he wrote, yeah, oh man, this site, like how much, like you said, there's just too much. There's too much, yeah, that's it. It was just getting too ridiculous. So too much yeah, that's it. It just it was getting too ridiculous So I just found a few little details. I've got some fun facts and I've got a list of all the awards that they've won Oh, because they will finish on a high just to wrap up how huge they are so they release 27 studio albums Really 55 singles

Um, that's a lot and four live albums sure 27 studio albums in 10 years. That can't be right. No, that's because they had in the UK. Oh, yeah, that's right. Exactly. They probably changed it. I think there's 10 albums in the UK, I think. Yeah. That's still pretty crazy. Which is one? Well, because they only released them over eight years. Yeah, that's right. So, and it's like, no wonder they fell apart.

Like, if normally bands now release an album every two years, two are in between, have a break. If you're never having a break from each other, it's two are recording, two are recording, two are recording. Like, I don't, my best friends, I don't think I'd be able to handle doing that with. Not too much. Oh, are we going to record another three of these today? Oh God no.

Then two of them. Okay he's just a few little fun facts. Do I do awards or fun facts first? Do awards. I want to finish with fun facts. Okay but I don't know how fun they are but it's totally building this up to be super fun. I don't know how fun they're going to be. Awards. The film Let It Be film won the 1971 Academy Award for Best Original Song School. I didn't know that. The Beatles have been awarded six diamond albums as well as 24 multi-platinum albums, 39 platinum albums,

45 gold albums in the United States. They also have the recipients of seven Grammy Awards. In the UK, the Beatles have four multi-platinum awards, four platinum, eight gold and one silver. They are inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1988. They are the best selling band in history. They've sold between 600 million and over one billion units worldwide. In 2004, Rolling Stone ranked the Beatles as the best artist of all time. They ranked number one on Billboard magazine's list of the all-time most successful Hot 100 artists.

And as of 2014, they hold the record for most number one hits on the Billboard Hot 100 with 20. Isn't that ridiculous? 20 number ones. They were collectively, including Time Magazine's compilation of the 20th centuries 100 most influential people and In 2014 they received the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award I know we all quite like them, but it's even people who don't you can't argue that they're huge Harken there are there are a few out there who you know anyone who's huge like that

There's always people like I don't get it totally is like if they weren't so big they'd be like yeah, they're pretty good But I but I don't get why they're so big. Yeah, I've got friends who just don't get it at all I think if I discovered them now I probably wouldn't be that into them I think because my parents listen to them a lot and I was kind of raised with their music you appreciate it And they might that was probably true of me too perhaps but and it's a great story as well Yeah, like that Lenin thing is it going to surely a big budget movie should be made about at some point?

Surely, and it probably will. So yeah, that's a big budget day if I'm not talking about some mid-level budget. You're talking 100 million plus. Easily. Plus. Okay, some fun facts to finish up. Oh my goodness, I'm so excited for some fun facts. Your favorite song, Dave, yesterday? Yes. Is the most covered version of any song ever written. It's the most covered song. I knew that because I'm a big fan of it. It's multiple thousand, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah. What? Yeah, it's insane. I don't remember hearing, oh, I know boys to men do a cover of it on their album boys to men too Back in the boys Yes back in the boys And I'm pretty sure yesterday that's the one that he claims are you writing a dream? He wrote up came up with the yeah, yeah, yeah, and he would be like he was singing something scrambled eggs He was singing scrambled eggs. Honey. I like your legs. Yeah, yeah, just so that he would be like he was singing something scrambled eggs. He was singing scrambled eggs Yeah, just so that he would remember the tune while he like ran to write it down and a guy on a pie came Boy Paul McCartney's name isn't Paul

James really A middle name Paul's his middle name James Paul James Paul. I did not know that. Oh no, that's a good one. There are a really dead. Did you get across that at all? There's this big conspiracy theory that he died in the 60s. Have you heard that? No, I have. There's like a replacement Paul. I actually heard that. Have fun. And that's why on the cover of Abbey Road he's the only one not wearing shoes. That's part of the proof for them. That's one of the claims. It's not just that he just wasn't wearing shoes. And but also, all these clues about it. I think George is dressing a denim suit.

So that means he's the undertak- no, I think because he's wearing denim, he's the one who buried him, one of them- And because he's not facing the camera as much as the others So it's not the real Paul and in a white suit Yeah, that's because he's he's something as well. Yeah, and then there's this other thing They're one of their tracks if you play it backwards it sounds like Paul is

No more or something. It's not even it's like why wouldn't they say it? Say the exact words Paul's dead like why are there all the clues are so vague. Oh, that's great I don't I choose to believe he's alive. I well, I think he definitely is Well, the fact that he just had a hit song with Rihanna He's still running hits. Oh, God There are around a couple more fun facts They're around 70 famous and not so famous people on the cover of Sargent Peppers lonely hearts club band Including May West Ed Grail and Po Bob Dylan Stuart Sutcliffe. Oh, that's cool little shout out to there

That's right nice. A fallen bass player Marilyn Monroe Laurel and Hardy Karl Marx Oscar-Wall Lewis Carroll Albert Einstein little shout out to there. That's right now. A very good one. A very good one. A very good one. A very good one. A very good one. A very good one. A very good one. A very good one. A very good one.

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Oh my god. I don't like that much. And the last one, this is probably one of my favorite facts that I've learnt. The band bought the Greek Island of Leslo surrounded by four smaller islands, one for each beetle, for 95,000 pounds in the summer of 1967. They sold it a few months later,

bored with the idea. Oh my God, I never knew that is awesome. They bought a Greek Island, they bought it surrounded by four little ones so they could have an island age. I love a band was gonna buy it. Bored with the idea. I love that though, because like 67, they're still in their 20s.

Like they're so young, they're just, they're young guys with too much money. And they own an island age. Did you know this, just a drag, one more fun fact out, that George funded the life of Brian, the Monty Python. A movie, yes. Yeah, I'd forgotten that. And I'm fairly sure that he risked a lot of his money. I think it was pretty much everything he had.

Like all in. And he didn't, and I don't think Monty Python realized. Because they would have assumed that, oh, he's a beetle. Yeah, exactly. So they were like, they didn't feel as much pressure as they would of this. They're like, oh my god, if we knew that George Harrison would have gone bankrupt based on like, oh my god, if we knew that George Harrison would have gone bankrupt based

on this, because they were worried that the movie, apparently the movie to them wasn't looking great and it wasn't getting great, a great reception until they really finished it off with the music and everything. And then it was obviously a big hit that made a lot of money. But maybe it's better they didn't know. I think it definitely was better they didn't know. I think it definitely was better they didn't know. I think I'd be pretty stressed out. I think life would probably be my favorite.

I think I'll be more than- I just love how the Beatles reaches just everywhere. Yeah, so I hope you learnt something. I hope you definitely did. I hope that was interesting for you. It was very interesting. It was good. Hopefully, yeah, I feel like now I just want to go home and listen to

their back catalogues yeah I want to watch their movies yeah I haven't seen any of them let's let's get them out on the yeah we could talk about this after but if you say it now then I'm contractually obliged to agree and come and watch it with you well there you go thanks just for educating us about all things beetles Thank you I hope you enjoyed it. We have all come down with a case of Beatles Mania. Big time. Big time. We'll be back next week with a fresh report on another topic and until then we say a do and a goodbye or I say hello. Thank you all. You say goodbye and I say hello. Hello.

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