Two In The Think Tank - 307 - Argentina's Heist of the Century

Episode Date: September 8, 2021

At 12.38 on the afternoon of January 13th, 2006, the local police received a call - a bank robbery was in progress at the Acassuso branch of the Banco Rio, one of Argentina's big banks. What followed ...is one of the all time great heists, tune in for the story!Check out our 2019 tour video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA-cdcclOsEGet a ticket to the live Prime Mates - Ape Titty Slide on 11th September : https://www.trybooking.com/events/landing?eid=805586Stream our 300th episode with extra quiz (and 16 other episodes with bonus content): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoonFor tickets to Matt's Live Shows: https://www.mattstewartcomedy.com/ Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Check out Matt’s Beer show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej4TUguJL58 Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.com Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.gq.com/story/the-great-buenos-aires-bank-heisthttps://www.lanacion.com.ar/sociedad/el-robo-al-banco-rio-de-acasuso-una-historia-de-pelicula-nid1232455/http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/15/argentina.bank.robbery.trial/index.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heist_of_the_Century_(film)https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/movie/the-heist-of-the-century/1839692867861 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:58 ALL-B-I-R-D-S.com codefreshsocks. with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Get out of your little legend now, you're doing made good to see us. Oh thanks. Daddy, Dave. Daddy, Jess. It's great to be on here with you. And if you keep that character up while Jess, you'll explain what the show actually is.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Thank you so much. Well, you little ripper. What we do here at Dooga, what is, we love to have a bit of a yarn. And one of the three of us goes where researchers are topic, and usually the topic of a yarn and one of the three of us goes where researchers are topic and usually the topics mentioned just about one of the listeners. And we go away, we read some books, we watch some dockos, we browse, we compete at .org and we research, the topic, we bring it back to the other two.
Starting point is 00:03:00 We have a bit of a learn, a bit, and really, it's all about the friendship. And we always get on to the friendship with a question. Every friendship starts with a question. That character walked all across the world. It felt like a like a Broden Kelly meets Hannah Gadsby to me. I thought there was a bit of stew dolmen in there. Yes, I was about to say there was definitely a bit of stew. Didn't mean to go to any of those territories,
Starting point is 00:03:28 but it went all over the country. I went to the ground. I went to the ground. I was going to walk around the world of Australian comedy. And I've got to say, what I was trying to go for was like middle-aged dad has bumped into an acquaintance at the shops. What I think if you can buy those three, I think that's what you get. Okay, great. Yeah, that's sort of what I was going for. It was like, oh, get out Okay great. Yeah, that's sort of what I was going for was you know Okay, bad it got middle aged recently retired dad. That's funny because what was middle aged to us from all kids?
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah, we are middle aged and we keep thinking of them as middle aged but they're now near death You got young middle millows, near dead. All long dead. The four states have been. So I'm the one doing the report this week, as Old Mate Barry, down the shop, told you. So I'm going to kick off the report today with a question. I went with a pretty gettable Dave, because you're a geography expert. Can we give Jess first crack it as well? I'm just going to say the Caribbean.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Okay, well that is incorrect, Jess. You get the next crack at it. What is the capital city of Argentina? Oh, of Argentina. Can Dave help me? It's okay. It's not Caribbean. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:38 That is... That's two words. I'm going to know it. BA. Ah. Ah. It'm gonna know it. B-A. Ah! Ah! It is carer. But what a series. Yes, it is. Don't you think we had a pronunciation check there? What a series. Right. There's a few names and places in this report that I'm gonna do my best on. So we ask. So this week's topic is about a big Wanasare's bank highest,
Starting point is 00:05:11 aka the robbery of the century, which happened in 2006, I was an early call. I love it. I love it. Now we're calling it, this will not be tarped. I love a bank highest. Great, yeah,. This is a real fun one, I think. I should say, when I say I love a bank highest, I don't condone them. I don't want to take part, but the stories are exciting. Have you ever been asked? No, that is that is something that hurts me
Starting point is 00:05:39 to my core. I didn't want to go on the highest anyway. Yeah, whatever. I live in like highest. I'm sorry's probably included. All right. So this one was suggested just by the one, listen, Tommy Highland from Columbus in the great state of the whole. So this one's going to be Tommy Highest. Oh, so close.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Tommy Highest land. Tommy Highland is a fantastic name, though. Yeah. Let's get that on the record. And he gets to live in God's country, Ohio, so jealous. All right, you guys ready? Yes. Let us begin.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Let's host. Let's host. Is that what they said? To get going. Everyone put their hands in. Let's host. Look at it on the tree. Yeah, it's host.
Starting point is 00:06:20 At 12.38 on the afternoon of January the 13th, 2006, this is a Friday the 13th, by the way. Wow. Wow. The local police received a call. 12.38 on the afternoon, local police received a call. A bank robbery was in progress at the Akasusa branch of the Bankorio, one of Argentina's big banks.
Starting point is 00:06:42 The police arrived at the scene in time to find the robbery still in progress. They set out a perimeter while they figured out their next move. Soon, there was more than a hundred cops surrounding the building. So they were taken at seriously. It was bang, it was on. Fully surrounded the building, a big ring perimeter around the outside. Soon, the bank's security guard was released. He was holding his gun, but the bullets had been removed by the robbers before they were released in which I think was smart.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Yes. So you already know you're dealing with smart operate. But they said to him, you can keep that, like, I'm back his piece. That's right. Maybe they're robbers, but they're not mean about it. Yeah. We'll take your bullets, but we won't take your gun. Because actually that particular establishment,
Starting point is 00:07:25 like he wasn't just given the gun, he sort of had to like buy it. He had to be be why he'll gun. And he's like, that cost me a bit of money. Yeah, it took him like three months of wages before he had a gun. Exactly, yeah. You gotta earn it.
Starting point is 00:07:38 He's like, I've only just got this gun. For the first three months, he was the security guard with a brick. That's all he had. Just standing there in the court. That's all he had. Yeah. Just standing there in the court. Brick and three bullets. And you know, when you start a new job and you feel like the new guy, it's so much
Starting point is 00:07:51 worse when you don't even have a guy. I've felt that before. Day one of my office job. Yeah. Everyone else has got one. I've just got a brick. What am I doing this? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Phil had Excel spreadsheet or some shit. So the security guard told the police there were hostages inside, which makes sense that it was a daylight robbery. There were people in there doing their going about their banking business. And then soon after, one of the hostages, a young man, was released. He just sort of came out the front door, Happy days. Hottie is gone. Yeah, he was holding his gun no bullets. Then one of the robbers came to the front entrance holding a woman hostage, you know, classic hostage holding sort of scenario I guess. He had removed the bullets from the woman though.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Hottie a woman in the bullets. He was sort of just having a peek outside, I guess. And what he saw was that the bank was entirely surrounded. So he freed the woman and he ran back inside. Please were able to ascertain from those who had been released that there were five robbers all wearing different outfits to disguise their identities. A bit of a kind of like a wantisserie and village people in some way. There was one. A surgeon. A surgeon. Yeah, what's the dress as a surgeon? A doctor
Starting point is 00:09:12 surgeon. One wearing a ski mask. Yes, you know, the ski man. Then you had one who was sort of dress real sharp and a tailored gray suit. He also had a beautiful mustache. Is it fake? I'm picturing Quarro. I've rude to ask if it's fake, does it? Honestly, that's not much of a discard at the moment. If it's not a fake mustache, that's just a man with a mustache wearing a nice suit. That's his discard. Usually, I dress really casual, so people will not recognize me in this. This is bad.
Starting point is 00:09:43 This is bad. This is sharp, just man. And then there was another wearing a balaclava and a baseball cap over the top of long blonde hair. And then the robbers were holding 23 hostages. So I've just got to say, do you think that they had a meeting where they just turned up on the day of the robbery. They said, BYUO disguise and they all got out and went, a surgeon, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:10:06 I was, yeah. Yeah, no, none of that made any sense. Yeah, I think there was no connection at all. Very happy, hasn't it? Two guys in like Schema, Spell or Clovis. And one guy dressed in a beautiful suit. Yeah, I thought you said fancy dress. And one guy has a toy stethoscope and he's like,
Starting point is 00:10:24 what? I've always wanted to do what we're doing. I'm just here for the adventure. The guy in the suits like, you know, my wedding got cancelled and I've been waiting for an opportunity to wear this. She left me. Sharon! I like to dedicate this rubbery to Sharon. That doesn't happen enough. Dedications of rubberies. This one goes out to Shaz. I would take a man that is a heartbeat if he robbed a bank for me. If someone dedicated the robbery of the century to you, that's an active love. That's romance.
Starting point is 00:10:58 The police were able to establish radio contact with one of the robbers who referred to himself as Walter. Walter said he was aware they were surrounded, but they weren't ready to give themselves up. They had guns, but they didn't want anyone getting hurt. In this failed threat, Walter also said that he'd hate to see another Romallo. Romallo. That's a, I'm not quite sure how to pronounce that. I looked up all these playsthams and names. I looked up pronunciation videos with mixed results. I've got to tell you.
Starting point is 00:11:26 You know, when you find a pronunciation video and it's like 17 thumbs down, two thumbs up, you're like, I don't trust this now. The ratio. Yeah. But do we know what a Romalo is? Yes. Well, according to Josh Dean, right, if a GQ magazine, this guy, he wrote a beautiful piece, which I'll refer to a bit.
Starting point is 00:11:45 This is what Dino said. This struck a nerve. The highest in the town of Romalo was infamous in Argentina. Six years earlier, three armed men had burst into a bank. The thieves held hostages and during an attempt to escape, use them as shields. That's when things went sideways.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Police opened fire, killing a robber and two hostages. Romalo was a national scandal, but what made it especially terrible is that the Fiasco played out on live TV. Oh, nasty. Yeah, so everyone in Argentina is very aware of especially at this point, so many a few years earlier. So the fact that the news teams were again at the scene, filming live, and the fresh memory of Ramallo was playing in the police head. They were where forcing the issue with the robbers and instead played it very patiently. So I just set up their perimeter
Starting point is 00:12:34 and sort of waited and try to keep communicating. Back to Dean's article. For more than six hours, the nation was transfixed. The police had nicknamed Walter, the man in the gray suit for obvious reasons It was the guy in the gray suit. Oh, okay, he wasn't the surgeon. I love that as a nickname. It's so long The man in the gray suit. I mean, he's the one that has a name nicknamed the others, but this is Walter He's already given himself a nickname
Starting point is 00:13:03 He was instantly famous. The hostages Walter said we're all being treated well, and the mood inside seemed oddly abulliant. At one point, Walter and another robber could be heard singing happy birthday to a bank employee, whose phone had been buzzing with birthday messages from friends and family. Oh my god, what a terrible birthday.
Starting point is 00:13:23 They bring out a cake from the staff room. Yeah, we were to have this later but let's just chop it up now. You think it would be a bad birth they bought to be involved in the robbery of the century? Absolutely. To be a hostage in the robbery of a century. Yeah. You're part of history. But the man in the suit is singing at you. That's nice. I kind of feel like in many ways I'm already part of history. Oh, that's important. Okay, not a minute. Yeah, I hear that. So, okay. But you feel pretty stupid there. Very. At 3.30 in the afternoon, Walter asked for pizzas. The hostages were hungry, he said. Then only a few minutes later, Walter went silent. Oh, okay. They're hungry. They want pizzas. Yeah, this birthday is really
Starting point is 00:14:11 turning around for me. That's pretty, I mean, do you reckon that they ask the birthday, girl or boy, their favorite flavor? Yeah. What do you want to margarita, chaperchose? What are you feeling? It's your birthday, your choice. Yeah, what do you feel? Babaki chicken, okay. Okay. Okay. All right, we'll you feel? Babaki chicken, okay? Okay. All right, we'll get, maybe we'll get a half and a half. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Cause I don't think anybody else is gonna eat that disgusting pizza, but, um.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha. So he went saw the police try to reconnect with him, what with Walter, but each attempt failed. The clock kept ticking with no response or any signs of activity from inside the building. So the police's patients wore thin after waiting around three and a half hours. They'll really go on. We can't do a remark. We don't want to storm it, but after three and a half hours they're like, we got to do
Starting point is 00:14:55 something. He's not picking up the phone. Let's move in. So according to Dean, finally a team of special forces officers took up position outside the bank. At 7 p.m, they burst inside. Wow. But there was no shootout, no commotion, and no sign of the thieves. Why? The hostages were dispersed on three floors. The lobby level, a mezzanine space, and down in a basement conference room,
Starting point is 00:15:18 which had been locked from the inside. They were all unharmed. They'd vanished. And were the hostages like tied up together or something? Yeah, the hostages were all secured in their separate areas. All right, because if they hadn't been and they'd locked themselves inside. Yeah, now we're having a good time in here. Actually, Kathleen's birthday is really taken to the next level.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Sleepover Club down in the vault. Yeah, we've decided to do a summer party for Kathy's birthday. We're having so much fun. We thought, why end it now? This is great. Let's take this through to tomorrow. The best staff party ever. So, but that is remarkable. They're surrounded on all sides,
Starting point is 00:15:53 but they're no longer in the building. What the hell? And it wasn't until detectives reached the basement that they discovered what the robbers had truly been after. There in the expanse of the bank's subterranean level, hundreds of reinforced steel safe deposit boxes lie on the walls. These safe deposit boxes were a gold mine.
Starting point is 00:16:13 The reason they were so valuable is because of the collapse of Argentina's banking system, national banking system in 2001. Five years earlier, there was a big banking crash in Argentina. This collapse led to many people losing their life savings. Millions of people were affected. So, Argentine stopped depositing their money
Starting point is 00:16:30 into the banking system. Instead, they started putting their valuables in safe deposit boxes, such as the 400 boxes at the Akasusa branch of the bank courier. With Akasusa being a well-to-do area, these boxes were chalk full of riches. So it's interesting, right? They don't trust the bank system,
Starting point is 00:16:48 but they trust the bank to physically hold their stuff. Wow. Of the 400 boxes, 143 had been smashed open and emptied, but where the thieves and their haul had gone was a mystery. Police swept the building top to bottom, but could hardly find a trace of them. The bank only had two exits,
Starting point is 00:17:06 and both had been surrounded by police throughout the siege. No windows had been broken, and the robbers weren't found hiding amongst the hostages. Just like that, they disappeared. Oh, man, this is so awesome. Yeah. That's, I'm going like, oh, they're, I reckon they've sort of disguised themselves.
Starting point is 00:17:25 They've taken off the doctors' outfit and they're hiding as if they're hostages or something. No, they've put on the pizza boy outfit. They've walked out. Yes. They've put the drop off. Yes. They're like, hang on, didn't only one pizza boy drop the pizzas off? No, there's five of them. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Yeah, one of them dressing a beautiful tailed soup. No, they're all good. A lot of people need to carry these pizzas. They're all getting on the back of that one scooter. This is kind of impressive. So the police did find a few things left behind by the robbers. There were bits of hair, as well as a battery pack, some toy guns, and a tool they assumed was used
Starting point is 00:18:00 to crack open the boxes. They also found a note that read, I think it would have been written in Spanish, but their translation, in a neighborhood of rich people without weapons or grudges, it's just money, not love. That's poetic, kind of baffling as well. Almost like they were, where they try to put the cops off the sand sand or give them a clue, it's strange. Yeah, that's like a Robin Hood sort of like, hey, they weren't about it.
Starting point is 00:18:31 That's amazing to say, because they have sort of become known as as like Robin Hood type thieves. Ah. Because they stole from the rich, they didn't do the second part of the fight. All right. I mean, they really nailed the first part.
Starting point is 00:18:48 They're half Robinhoods, they're Robbins. But if you consider yourself poor and you're taking from the rich and giving to yourself, I mean, you could probably justify in your own mind, hey, I'm given to the poor here. That's true, that is true. I mean, I wanted to be a surgeon and the only way I could do that
Starting point is 00:19:02 was by dressing up as well. So the nation was absolutely enthralled by the host. I mean, they watched it for six hours live on TV and then everyone's got their theories of what's going on, the police are on the hunt, but they're battling. They have no real solid ideas of what has happened here. Credit cards that were stolen
Starting point is 00:19:24 from the safety deposit box are started being flagged after being used fraudulently. The police arrested and investigated many people who'd used the cards, hoping they'd finally found the perps. But alas, they all turned out to be dead ends. The mysterious gang of robbers had got away with an estimated $20 million worth of booty. Booty. How much how much jewelry did they steal?
Starting point is 00:19:57 They just had the patents for like famous butts. This is the insurance for Column and Oaks butt. This is the insurance for Column and Oaks Bart. Remember that? I think there was at one point, she took out a million dollar insurance on her bar or something. We're going to be worth more than that. Inflation, I forget. This is 20 years ago. Is that per cheek though? So, two million maybe?
Starting point is 00:20:17 Well, that's a great question. I'll look, I'll take that on notice and I'll come back next week with an answer on this. So they had no viable leads. They were baffled the cops. This was until about five weeks later, when a jilted partner helped unravel the whole thing. Oh, that's right. She left him at the altar.
Starting point is 00:20:36 That's the end of the great suit. It's you, Sheryl. Like when you said that, I'm like, not that far off day. But before we get to that, let's go back to the beginning, which was years before the host. Okay, so according to Dean, it all began with Fernando Alfrahul, apologies for the pronunciation. A-R-A-U-J-O. I practice this a bit.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I don't think I've nailed it, but I'm going with a ra-a-ra-ho. Do you either of you speak Spanish? And how am I standing there? Nala, I think that sounds beautiful. It's a beautiful language to hear it coming out of you, man. Really? Right. I mean, if you can come up with a nickname for this guy at some point. What's your name, Raf? His name is Fernando.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I think you're just calling him Fernando. Fernando, I? His name is Fernando. I think I just said, Colleen Fernando. Fernando, I love that, beautiful name. I'll try and remember just going Fernando. So it all began with Fernando, Raho. Fernando had a crazy idea and he shared it with his friend Sebastian Garcia Bolster. Once you hear some of their names,
Starting point is 00:21:41 you're going to be like, I want to them pick Walter. That's an amazing downgrade. of their names, he's going to be like, and one of them picked Walter. That's an amazing downgrade. So Fernando, he's got this crazy idea. He shared it with his friend Sebastian Garcia Ballsta. This is still from Dean's article. This was a few years after the botched Ramillo, Ramallo Heist had lodged itself in Fernando's brain.
Starting point is 00:22:06 It would be crazy to rob a bank but not leave the way you entered. He mentioned a bolster. Boulster had been friends with... Does Adam know where? Does Adam know where? When he'd be crazy to leave the bank? I don't know if he was. He would.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Not the way he came in and the other guy was like, okay. Yeah, I guess. Wild thing to bring up out of the blue. But bolster had been friends with Fernando since high school. They were now in their mid 30s. And he agreed. That did sound like a wild boar. The wild boar.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, man. Yeah. That does sound a bit weird. But he assumed it was just some bark. His pal smoked a lot of weed. So imagine he's coming up to him with some some ideas like this every now and then. He's like, yeah, yeah, man. Cool. Yeah, for sure. That would be weird. Every idea. The two had grown up together in upper middle class homes in the northern suburbs.
Starting point is 00:23:05 So your idea of the poor robbing the rich, it sounds like the pinder rich robbing the really rich, right? They, they grupt in upper middle class homes in the north suburb, but they were very different. Whereas Fernando pursued eccentric occasionally a legal interest, bolster was a law-abiding family man. He worked mostly at repairing small engines, motorcycles and jet skis and the like. But it was also a tinkerer, the kind of guy who sketches plans for a cheap home-built helicopter in his spare time. So that kind of guy... Who the fuck
Starting point is 00:23:37 is getting in in somebody's home-built helicopter? Oh, you need to lift down the shops. Home-built helicopter. Oh, you need to lift down the shops. Where are you jumping the chopper? I'll fly you down. Get fucked. No. The kind of guy, do you mean Leonardo da Vinci? Do they find that drawing that each other? Who else is sketching a homemade helicopter? That's probably no coincidence that Fernando asks his mechanically minded friend about the host.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Balsa skills would come in handy. The Bolster didn't think much more about it. Did they use a home built helicopter and they just didn't notice until they've been approved? Oh my God. No one thought to look out. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, what was that?
Starting point is 00:24:16 Don't worry about it. What doesn't sound like a helicopter? It sounds like someone died. LAUGHTER On the other hand, Fernando could think about nothing else. So, Boss has gone, yeah, great idea. He doesn't think about it again. Fernando is obsessed. Gordon to Dean, he was a free spirit and an artist. He'd gone through a breakup and was now cultivating various strains of high grade marijuana. He ate sporadically,
Starting point is 00:24:45 slept when he felt like it, and taught martial arts to pay the bills. There's a lot in this, isn't it? There's a lot happening. There's a lot going on. The kind of guy that teaches martial arts to pay the bills. He studied Eastern philosophy and was consumed with bank robberies, watching every possible film TV show and documentary he could find, searching for inspiration and also mistakes as he set out to architect the perfect heist. You'll like this Dave, he listened to Mozart and Beethoven for creativity and also bank robber by the clash for motivation. On repeat.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah. Daddy was a bank robber. Yeah, okay, okay. Okay, okay. Okay, take in notes. Be a daddy. That's about being a non-violent bank robber too, right? Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:25:37 You never hurt nobody. Yeah, Dave. He wasn't spoiled. I spent a couple of years contemplating and planning before returning to bolster with more concrete plans and some requests for technical help. Suggesting that bolster would be the Lucius Fox to his Batman. Who is Lucius Fox?
Starting point is 00:25:54 He's the Morgan Freeman character and I don't know which Batman iteration was that, the one with the Fish and Bo. Yeah, I don't know. So you've got the Butler butler who does buttering and then you've got Lucius Fox who does is sort of like the what's the bond version of the gadget guy? Oh, cute, cute. Yeah, okay, I'm with yes. There obviously he was obviously more of a comic guy. Oh, should be the cute James Bond. And who's playing the butler? Yeah, who's Alfred? Who's the car? Yeah, well I Alfred? Oh, who's the car?
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah, well, I guess the man in the grey suit is probably the closest to a Butler. Yeah, okay. And so the doctor is the Batmobile. Oh, I was going to say the homemade helicopter is the movie. No, you would think that, but no. It makes a helicopter so good. Yeah, more of Freeman played him in the Nolan series. Right on. It makes hell like I've done so good. Yeah, more of Framing plate him in the Nolan series.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Radar. Radar. Also wasn't immediately convinced. Firstly, he wasn't a criminal. Secondly, having once worked at a bank, even being an employee of the month, you knew they were no easy target. And I've been an employee of the month.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah. Hey, I've worked easy target. And I've been employee of the month. Yeah. Hey, I've worked in banks. Hey, I've been employee of the month of banks. Okay? Yeah, but I've worked at lots of banks and nearly never were they hosted. So I think they're pretty difficult to do. On the other hand, he hated banks having seen his father lose his
Starting point is 00:27:22 life savings in the financial crash. So he's got, he's like, you know, what, I wouldn't mind sticking it to the banks a little bit. He agreed to be involved on the proviso that there would be no violence and that they wouldn't use real guns. Fernando accepted these terms. And now the real plans began. But what were they? How did they make it happen? How do they do this? How do they go in? The front door and disappear. Go in the front door and you're in the bank and someone walks in, one's got a balaclava, one's dresses a surge, the other one in the great suit. Everyone's thinking,
Starting point is 00:28:00 what the fuck is happening here? Yeah. I think staff would go, ah, we're about to be broke. Yeah. Oh, if I was a staff, they would be like, yeah, Sir, surgeons do a little deposit. Must be payday at the hospital. That makes sense. I see lots of surgeons come in every week on payday. Most weight loss programs are short-term fixes,
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Starting point is 00:29:17 online or on campus, and financial aid is available to qualified students, including the GI Bill. Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. Okay, so this is how it all went down. So I'm going to read the next little bit from Dean's article in GQ. Fernando's years of contemplation had landed him on an audacious and complicated plan. He would arrive and exit using a tunnel. The suburbs of Buenos Aires were honeycombed with enormous storm tunnels
Starting point is 00:29:50 that ran beneath the streets and drained to the river. He figured that all he needed to do was find one that could get him near the bank. He had in mind and then dig upward. The idea began to take shape. Dig up. I love the use of the word honeycomb there. Fantastic. Love that. Dean's got a real way with words. One obstacle, Vex Fernando longer than others. How would he disabled the alarm systems that protect the bank
Starting point is 00:30:16 when the place is empty? The only viable solution ratcheted up the degree of difficulty. They'd have to go in during a workday when alarms went a factor. The alarms are the big roadblocks, so he's like, they don't use alarms when they're open. That's Rob in the daylight. Right, but I mean, okay, the alarm. Yeah, but okay, just want to point out that the alarm, when it goes off, cops arrive and surround the building. When you do it during the daylight, cops arrive and surround the building. So what's the difference? Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, oh my god, Dave, you're so dumb. Dave, are you listening, Dave? I'm listening. So through the day, there are no alarms on. Oh, okay. Yeah. I gotta go. Thanks, Josh. I'm so glad you're here. God, it's like he just doesn't listen to men.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I don't understand it, but when the alarm goes off, what happens? Dave, the alarm won't go off. They're going in in the day-day. They're going in the day-day, but there's no alarm. I'm so sorry, listen, he's normally not this slow. Oh, God. Look down, it's sorry, listeners. He's normally not this slow. Oh, gosh. Lockdown's really getting too. He's losing it.
Starting point is 00:31:28 If even I'm getting it before you, it's not wrong. Yeah, I'm feeling that too. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER Ow. So this is where the plan goes for another level of genius. The plan was to stage a fake bank robbery,
Starting point is 00:31:48 attracting the attention of the police while the real robbery was going on downstairs with the lock boxes in the basement. Oh. So all that stuff with costumes and that, that's all, it's like a slider hand trick. How fun is that? That's fun.
Starting point is 00:32:02 So they're not the people actually robbing downstairs. They're just babys sitting people in the lobby There's a bit of two and fourth. I'll get I'll get another I'm soon honestly this guy should have just written a movie and made money the legal way well. He does that later You know genuinely I mean, he's conquered martial arts. He's conquered Homegrown hydroponics. Obviously, Hollywood's the next step.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Helicopters. He can do it all. No, that's a different guy. You're confusing. No, no, it's just Fox with Batman now. And nobody brings on the guy. I mean, without Batman, Lucius Fox, who is he? That's true.
Starting point is 00:32:39 That's true. It's all about delegation. I didn't know until about three minutes ago, but it's still. So to pull it off, I would need to recruit a crack squad of thieves and near-to-wells. How often do they do well? Near, that's a Gary's calling line, sorry. I've written near-to-well, I'm like, I don't use that word, which made me think of that fantastic Gary Gullman line.
Starting point is 00:33:02 You wrote that word, that wasn't like, you know, written in an article or something. You chose to use the word near do you? Oh, yeah, we're back, we're well back in the wild. Do you think, do you think Dean would use words such as that? How do you even spell near? Any dash, ER. Amazing. It's short for never, I think.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Never. Amazing. But who's got time for that? Yeah, I'd rather say, near. Near. Near. I'm. Never. Amazing. But who's got time for that? Yeah, I'd rather say, nah. Nah. Nah. I'm a nah adieu. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:30 The adieu, well. Uh-huh. So they had their leader of slash ideas man in Fernando, the Leonardo, if you will. The Leonardo? Yeah. And then they had their engineer slash mechanic in bolster. Yes, he's maybe you donatello. Oh, he's doing machines.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Funnily enough, Fernando thinks of this whole, he co-names this whole host as the Donatello scheme. And he's such a fan. So he's the, he's the ideas man. And he even has, uh, now has Donatello Taddoud down his arm. And is that named after the Ninja Turtle or the Scopter? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:10 The Ninja Turtle. Okay. Just to get put you into his head. So they've got their ideas man, they've got their engineer slash mechanic. To their team, they added Ruben Alberto Delator, aka Beto, and a guy known simply as Doc, who wasn't the guy who wore the surgeon's costume. These two were veteran bank robbers who were members of the Superbander, a brazen bank robbing crew who took down banks across Argentina in the 80s and 90s.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I love that as a gag name, Super Banda. These guys, as opposed to this heist, Super Banda were unafraid of violence. They would have shootouts with the cops. Right. And are they coming out of retirement for one last job? These two are, they're sort of still in and out of it a bit. One of the guys does come out of retirement though.
Starting point is 00:35:04 That's so good. The Getaway driver comes, is and out of it a bit. One of the guys does come out of retirement though. That's so good. The Getaway driver comes, is drawn out for one most children. He's like, this is gonna put the kids through college. Let's go back to Josh Dean's GQ story. The pair and Mellowed with time. So this is what we're talking about, Doc and Beto, or Rubin Alberto De La Torre. I'll just call him Beto from now on though, or Beto, Beto or Rubin Alberto de la Torre.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I'll just call him Beto from now on though, or Beto. Beto and Doc, this pair had mellowed with time for their violent pasts, made bolster nervous anyway. He decided that the biggest of his jobs, carving the tunnel from the city storm drains up into the bank. Big obstacle. Is that, what is that from Dave?
Starting point is 00:35:43 Is that something? That's from The Simpsons. That's a Homer Simpson, is it? Who says it? Simpson Winston. When they start digging for treasure under the big T and they keep digging and then they find themselves at the bottom of the hole and then they say, Dig up stupid to try and get out of it.
Starting point is 00:35:58 That's funny. So that's his big job digging upa, and up to the bank. And he decided that was a job best done alone. He, because he was the only one who hadn't been a jail before, and been arrested before, all the others had different levels of criminal histories. So I think he was more comfortable just working alone,
Starting point is 00:36:19 get almost justified like it wasn't, he was just working on a little project, not necessarily involved in a massive crime. A't, he was just working on a little project, not necessarily involved in a massive crime. A massive, potentially violent crime. Yes. So for months, Bolster would drive his truck down to Peru Beach at night, parking near the spot where the city's huge drain tunnel emptied into the Rio de la Plata.
Starting point is 00:36:39 He'd slip inside around 9.30 and slosh his way through the Labyrinth Drain Network, hiking for about a half hour to reach the location adjacent to the bank from which his work would commence, which was located beneath a manhole cover in the street. With a hydraulic shovel, bolster spen is not chiseling the hard earth beneath the street, inching ever closer to the bank. I've never heard of a hydraulic shovel, but that is so awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Is it kind of guy that in his spare time would sketch a hydraulic shovel design? That's the kind of guy that's like that. Just to put you in his, in his mind, paint a little picture there. To sketch a little picture of the man, his account of man, it would sketch a little picture. He claims that his wife never questioned his nocturnal absence. Apparently, she just assumed that he had a mistress. He's certainly not going to be involved in some huge crime, probably just having an affair. I won't even ask him about it. Either way, I don't care. Yeah. So I'd have held the relationship though. Whatever. He's out of the house. So I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I thought it was a bit strange that he's kept taking the hydraulic shovel to his mistress's house, but hey, no judging, whatever you're into. Yeah, whatever they're up to, none of my business. I was just so resigned to the fate, whatever. As long as he takes his boots off at the door, doesn't track any mud through my house. I was so shocked about. Arrives covered in sewage and stormwater every single morning. Oh, hello, darling.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Did you ever ask that? I don't care. You want to cut back? Copies in the park. This is still from Dean's article. Problems arose and problems were solved. For instance, what is the proper angle for a tunnel that runs to the bank's foundation many meters above? Misjudge by even a little and you could end up in an old ladies
Starting point is 00:38:31 basement. So that's the kind of imagery that deans riding, oh, imbues. See, if I was riding that, I might have said, I wouldn't have put a face to the, the pilot said, you might dig up into the wrong spot. But he said, imagine if it was an old lady's basement. Yeah. And that makes you think even more. Imagine if it was a serial killer's basement. Oh, okay, now,
Starting point is 00:38:52 it'd be worse, wouldn't it? Imagine if it was an old lady, it was a serial killer. Oh my God. But she's like, oh, hello, would you like a book, a bikini? You're like, the teen bikikiller. What a sweet old lady. And then she's like, step, stab, stab, stab! Imagine.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Dingo's on. The answer, of course, was just math. Bolston knew he could calculate the precise angle if he had lengths for two sides of the triangle. The vertical distance from the street to the floor of the canal below, and the horizontal distance that the tunnel would travel to reach the exterior wall of the bank. What's the maths with science? I was that geometry.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Yeah, just doing a bit of geo. Algebra. Geometry. Please don't yell at your iPod mathematicians. It's one of them. It's one of them. The hypotenuse. So the first measurement was simple to obtain. Fernando rode his bike one night to the bank and found a storm drain through which he fed a string with weight tied to one end. When it clanged on the
Starting point is 00:39:48 canal floor he had his triangles hot. Bang, easy, one side done. Beautiful. The next one was a little trickier, the horizontal distance. But he had no idea. There was that manhole cover in the street directly above the spot where his tunnel would begin. He'd measure from there to the wall of the bank orio, but he knew he couldn't just show up using a measuring tape to a saw as up a bank without arousing some suspicion. That's smart. Someone else might just rock up and go, anyway, just measuring it up for a horse, not him. No, he's that good. He is that good. So we measured the...
Starting point is 00:40:26 I quite like how he did it though. I feel I hope this was in the movie. I did watch a bit of the movie. If you're in Australia, the movie that's made about these events, which I'll talk about a little bit later, is currently free to watch on SBS on demand. Oh, I love on demand. It's the best streaming apparatus.
Starting point is 00:40:43 So good. So good. So good. There'll be a link to that in the show notes. It's up online in Australia till the end of the year. So he measured the circumference. This is how he did it. He measured the circumference of his bike tire and then late one night, walk his bike from the manhole cover
Starting point is 00:40:59 to the wall of the bank as inconspicuously as possible, counting each full rotation by watching the air valve as the tie rolled. Yeah, that's smart, right? That's really clever. You don't look sus, just walk in a bike, and he's just quietly measuring it at the same time. So it was 37.5 rotations or about 185 feet.
Starting point is 00:41:18 False to do the math, the tunnel should be 69 degrees. Nice. Nice. Nice. Do you have a, in promise, we'll have Trundle wheels, but to those. Yes. I remember in promise, we'll go on for a Trundle around the school neighborhood. It feels like a, yeah, a wheel on the end of a stick and as it rotates, it clicks every time you cover a meter.
Starting point is 00:41:40 So he just made his own sketched up a homemade Trundle wheel. What a meter. So he just made his own sketched up a homemade trundle wheel. What a guy. Sorry Dave, I mean my like primary school or my schools had them to measure out, you know, like athletics, tracks and stuff. Did you just have one as a toy? Yeah, for sure. I was measuring stuff. I was trying to work at the angle so I could break into the canteen at night. Yeah. I had one to measure the size of my dick. How many clicks? How many clicks? It was quite a few clicks.
Starting point is 00:42:14 It turns out it was broken. Yeah. Click, click, click. How do we do like a fraction of a click? I didn't quite get around to a click, but let's round up one full click. What's that a meadow? Okay. Geez. That's probably the egg I guess that's about it. The meadow must be broken. It's got to be at least two meters surely. The amount of time and effort was starting to add up.
Starting point is 00:42:37 As was the actual costs of tools and supplies needed for all the prep work. Fernando sold his car to help finance it. He's got about five grand to invest there. But as they kept burning through cash, they realized they needed some outside investment. Enter an associate of dock. Renowned, Uruguayan thief, Lewis or Louis Mario Vittet Salanes. As well as the cash, Vittet also had a specific set of skills and a bunch of experience in this particular field.
Starting point is 00:43:08 This guy, what a backstory this is. Alright, this is from Dain again. He was a specialist in exotic entries, having been the famous Spider-Man of Buenos Aires. He was once known as a thief. His nickname was the Spider-Man of Buenos Aires. That's so awesome. That's good. That's good. Back in the 90s and early 2000s, a slim of Vatet scaled buildings in order to rob apartments. Until he was caught, he had a grand old time frustrating cops while supporting his voracious booze and co-cabits. When Fernando reached out, Vittet had been semi-retired from crime. He's been a nice home and a comfortable life. But once a thief,
Starting point is 00:43:52 always a thief. This was too sweet to pass up and he invested about 100 grand in the operation. So they've got a new member. So now they're, what are they up to? They're now a team of five. Voss's next big issue was figuring out how to open the safe deposit boxes. So it sort of figured out how to get in. He was almost done with his tunneling and all that sort of stuff. Once he was in, how do we crack these, you know, they're tough safe deposit boxes. How do we crack them open? And he's like, I can definitely do it.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I just need to have one to practice on. But they didn't know what brand they were, they didn't know the maker or whatever. So, Fernando rented a box at a different bank or da Rio branch. Once he had access, he was able to figure out the model and then order it from the manufacturer for Bolster to practice on. Right, so you can just order a safety deposit box for your house. Yeah, I get, he probably ordered under a fake business name or something, but yeah. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:44:47 So now Bostogot has to work designing his safety box cracker, probably did a little sketch. He ruled out using explosives as the noise would be heard on the main floor of the bank and beyond, which wouldn't be ideal. Probably give the game away that something else is going on. He went through a few other options before landing on building a custom jackhammer, which he dubbed the power cannon. That's awesome. He built it in a way that it could be assembled and disassembled quickly, making it easy to transport in and out of the bank. The last major piece of planning was how to make their escape through the storm drains. As they were going to need to be lugging their haul of cash and jewelry,
Starting point is 00:45:26 they decided on using inflatable boats. Ah, so good. One of the issues that they foresaw was that the boats now full of loot would be heavy and drag in the shallow canal. With all that heavy booty. Booty. So Fernando was really good at foreseeing issues and bolster was so good at solving the
Starting point is 00:45:47 problems. They were a really great team. So Fernando, he just saw like every step ahead, he's like, what could go wrong here? Figured out all the possible issues, then work with bolster to solve them ahead of time. What bolster did to solve this one was, he built a custom dam wall, which he installed in the canal over a number of nights prior to the heist. So the dam wall is built up, meaning that the water level will be much higher and easily able to take the weight of the loot or the boot.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Wow, wow, that's amazing. Yeah, so smart. All right, let's talk it through. This is the big day is now arrived. This is what happened. The crew had grown to seven members by this point. There was already the five, we know, Fernando, bolster, doc, B2, or Rubin, Alberto, Delator. I think that might be the best name of all time. That's the only reason I keep saying, but I should just stick to B2 and then Vittet, the aging Spider-Man. As well as Getaway driver Julian Zala Shveria, who was another one who was who'd retired from crime a few years earlier and was brought
Starting point is 00:46:58 back in. And then a last minute addition to the crew whose identity is still unknown, And then a last minute addition to the crew whose identity is still unknown, but is referred to as Lewis, the Uruguayan. According to Dean, I'm going to use Dean, heavily here, for what happened on the day. Are you ready? Yes, I'm excited. On the day of the robbery, the seven men went about their regular morning routines and then prepared for their roles in the big play. Some of the gang members met for coffee at a bar. While there, they applied glue to their fingertips hoping that when hardened, it wouldn't leave fingerprints. So, have a...
Starting point is 00:47:34 Also, it looks a bit sus at a bar. Sue that though, doesn't it? Yeah, but just sitting there. I'll get the check, please. Oh, I'm excited. You're like, don't know how to do nail polish, right? You do it on the other side. Try to pay in cash and it just keeps sticking to your hand.
Starting point is 00:47:48 You're trying to hand it over. Sorry about this. Sorry. We're the sticky bandits. Then they set off in three vehicles, a pair of cast-on on that morning headed to the bank while the getaway van driven by Zell Chavaria, cruised to the pickup spot. Bolster, as usual, worked alone. He drove separately to Peru Beach, parked his car,
Starting point is 00:48:11 and entered the tunnel around 7 a.m. that morning. First thing to the bank was Bito dressed as a doctor in a baggy lab coat, followed by Doc who wore the ski mask. That's so baffling. You too spot. But do they do that to try and throw them off the scent? Is that like, hello, my name's not Doc. I don't know that much. As you can see, I am not a Doc.
Starting point is 00:48:33 But he don't pull out a toy gun. He'd taken from his nine year old son that morning and flashed it around and told everyone to get on the floor. This was a robbery. Starts making noises. Pew, pew. Yeah, it was like, it was fluoro green.
Starting point is 00:48:55 But yeah, this is all part of the deal that Fernando made early with bolsa, no real guns. And yeah, so they're all toy guns, which they found some of later when they'd left. I guess to help prove that they actually weren't really threatening anyone. Yeah. Not that the people who were pissing their pants know. Yeah, it's what doesn't matter to them. PTSD probably isn't helped by the fact that they weren't real guns. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Meanwhile, for Tet, V-I Meanwhile, VITE double TEE. There'd be some science in some of these teas, wouldn't there be? Wouldn't there be? Wouldn't there be? Anyway, I'll pronounce them phonetically and apologize to my Argentinian friends. Meanwhile, VITE and the last minute edition, Louis or Louis the Uruguayan, drove one of the stone cars into a garage under the bank. Patet and Lewis carried the power cannon into the bank, shut and lock the garage door,
Starting point is 00:49:51 and use the car to barricade it. Then both men joined their friends upstairs, pretending to be part of a frantic robbery that was about to go bad. They were sort of playing a bit of a role here, you know, not only were they doing it to distract from what was going on downstairs. They wanted people to believe that they didn't quite know what they were doing. Fernando hung back outside in one of the stolen cars. He parked alongside the bank and put the flashes on to create the impression that this was the getaway car.
Starting point is 00:50:22 He'd filled the back seat with nail strips and oil cans, knowing that cops would recognise these as kinds of things a gang fleeing after a robbery might use to slow down pursuit. As the mastermind strode into the bank, he wore a baseball cap and a ski mask pulled tightly over a long blonde wig plus sunglasses. Man, that's such a strong look, I think. That's hard. It was such a convincing disguise that when Beto saw him walk in he put the gun to his head and hey we're having this place. Find another bank. Find another bank. Beto seems a bit dear. Each man now had a task prescribed by Fernando. Fatet would deal with the cops, Lewis and Beto would subdue the hostages,
Starting point is 00:51:08 and Doc would go to the cleaning room and activate the final man, bolster. The bolster, who was later known as the engineer in the media, which is a pretty funny name, had been sitting there in the dark, waiting patiently at the terminus of the tunneling Doug, separated from the basement now by just a thin wall. Doc arrived and carefully broke the wall from the inside, trying not to leave any debris and greeted the engineer, the game was on. So rather than going through the floor, he's gone
Starting point is 00:51:36 through a wall, is that right? Yes, so he's come up. Yes, so I guess his basement is in Doug into the ground. Oh man, so good. Upstairs, the gang emptied drawers, Fetet sat atop a counter and stepped into his lead role as Walter the Negotiator, a charming man with a fake mustache, a Taylor Gray suit, and a Yamaka. It was his job to buy the man in his basement the time they'd need to empty the boxes,
Starting point is 00:52:01 luring the police into believing that the standoff they were now engaged in was the result of a botched robbery. As planned, Fittet released the bank's armed guard and told the police negotiator that this was proof that we're good people. The actual motivation, though, to free the guard was that Fernando didn't want a single real gun inside the bank because someone might use it. They quickly released the security guard who's got, it unbeknownst to everyone.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Right, that's why they told him, hey, take this gun. Take this gun with you. Yes, they didn't want to keep the gun. Like it would make more sense that they'd hold onto the gun an extra weapon, but yeah, that's the reason why. They released the second and then a third hostage. And this was all part of Fernando's psychological strategy to convince the police that they were making progress, that they had the upper hand, and that time was in their favor.
Starting point is 00:52:52 He wanted the cops to think that they had the panic gang surrounded, to allow the police into feeling they were in a position of power. So when one of them went out with the hostage and then sort of ran back inside. That was all part of the play to look like Oh no, he's freaking out that they're surrounded by cops. It's all just to make the cops feel like they're the upper hand. This is what Fernando told his crew earlier. We must have nervous and stupid like we're losing control. Also people watching at home must have sympathy for us, he said. Some free hostages should buy goodwill. On the radio with the police negotiator,
Starting point is 00:53:29 Vittet emphasized that the robbers wanted to avoid a reprise of the Ramallah gun fight. He warned that the members of the gang were armed, a complete lie, of course, and they were prepared to shoot their way out. But they really didn't want to do that. A peaceful resolution, Vittet says, was in everyone's interest.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Hey, we don't want to shoot our way up, but we will. We will, but we don't want to. Don't make us. Look, this gun's loaded. Pew, pew, see? Yeah. See? I've got a laser, so. Pew, pew, pew sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. My name is Brian. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet.
Starting point is 00:54:16 You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet.
Starting point is 00:54:24 You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. You don't make me sick yet. understand the brief when you guys said you were grabbing some of the kids toys I didn't quite understand you met the guns. I do have a bus last year now if we need that. That's very good. Well, you got a Mr Potato here, if anybody wants that. I've bored Scrabble, I've been on this a play. If we've got some downtime, I've really been getting into Uno lately. It's very fun. The beauty of it is you have to put in your pocket, but there's ours and a tummy. Right there in your pocket, so. But no, you guys all look pretty busy with this house. So yeah, forget about it.
Starting point is 00:55:00 It's all good. I didn't see it, but. But if we do have a bit of money. What's the end of it? You need a buzz large here to you, let me know. So finally, when Betet got the signal from Fernando, he told the police negotiator to order six pizzas. Then he put down his radio and told the hostages that the gang needed to step away for
Starting point is 00:55:20 a meeting. Anyone who moved, he said, would be killed. Down in the basement, bolster worked fast. Fernando had given them all two hours and he started his stopwatch, the minute doc punched through the wall to let bolster in. So this is when, you know, I want to mention earlier, there was radio signs like three and a half hours. That begins now. Everything they've done up to this point is just to convince them that this is all a real horse and their panicky. So it's believable that they've gone quite because maybe they're then trying to figure out a way out. And they're playing with their toys.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Draw four. Yeah. Oh, so but the hostages are they staying staying put because they're afraid they'll be shot or something or are they tied up or subdued or something? Well, the way I read it was that they were, it was more out of fear, but yeah, I'm not 100% sure if they were tied up or not. It's funny that this whole siege didn't even have a Wikipedia.org entry. But now I've just thinking now that I probably did, I probably does on the Spanish wiki, but didn't check. I mean, who doesn't have a Spanish wiki entry? Am I right? Yeah. Oh, is that the one we've got to say? Yeah, we're on here. The Spanish one, but not the English one. Which of course, that makes sense. We're huge in Spain.
Starting point is 00:56:42 South America. Big Tom. When are we going to to us? South America? It was on the cards. Let's work on like being able to go back to the studio. Let's start with that. Okay, baby steps are working. Yeah, I'd like to be able to go further than five kilometers from my house. And then let's see if we can get to South America. It's out of America outside the radius. I think so. I'll have to double check. Don't at me, anybody. Don't at me.
Starting point is 00:57:10 You're not very good at geometry or algebra or whatever. It's cool. I'm not good at it. Just figure out the hypotenuse. I don't know what that means. So it took bolster 20 minutes to assemble the power cannon, which I just cannot get over how bad that is. Did he yell, assemble the power cannon, which I just cannot get over how bad our set is. Did he yell, assemble the power cannon? If he didn't, what a wasted opportunity. What a loser. So once he done that, he was rapidly opening
Starting point is 00:57:34 safe deposit boxes and he kept up the pace for the better part of 90 minutes. Before long, the loot or the booty was piling up around him. Loody. Once things were settled upstairs, Fernando and Doc arrived and began to stuff their whole into bags. Fernando knew they couldn't linger. The stalemate upstairs would mask all day. They knew that eventually the cops are gonna go. We just have to force the issue here,
Starting point is 00:57:59 which would have been pretty nerve-wracking. They're hoping that they've done enough to put them off for the three and a half hours as a great result, but really, if the copy was in charge as more of a hothead, maybe they would have gone in a lot quicker than that. I think it was smart to reference that publicly known spot-to-case. That feels like it was a key part of it. Yeah, that's right. Last time on Live TV, this one horribly wrong. Yeah, you're right. We won't, we won't storm it.
Starting point is 00:58:27 When it was time to go, bolster took the tool apart, lowered the pieces to Louisie Uruguayan into now into the tunnel. So he took away the power, the power, oh man, the power cannon. We can't almost insane right, which would have been a travesty. So the tool that they left behind wasn't the real tool.
Starting point is 00:58:44 It was a bit of a red hairing. The tool they left behind to make the cops think was what they used to crack open the cases. Oh, the buzz light you. Yeah, they left the buzz light you down. They're like, no, that's what they use. How have they do it? Tell us your secret response. To infinity. Homeless thing. to infinity. I'm listening. And beyond. Yes, go on. So Lewis is down in the tunnel. He's taking the power cannon and the loop down into the boats. They then assembled a series of fake bombs that they created and scrambled back through the hole followed by Beto and Fattet. So all these things they left behind were kind of just to put the cops off the scent, just red herring to confuse them a bit. That left Fernando and Dr. Finish up around the basement. One sprayed bleach hoping to destroy any
Starting point is 00:59:34 remnant DNA while the other grabbed fistfuls of barbershop hair from a bag and tossed them around in order to further stimey investigators. I was wondering what was with the hair, so that is just to confuse people. Yeah, exactly. Finally, the two men cleaned all evidence of the wall breach from the room where bolster had entered, ducked into the tunnel and moved a heavy cabinet in front of the hole. To anyone who entered the room,
Starting point is 00:59:58 it would appear to be an empty, untouched storage space. The big cabinet just fully blocked the hole in the wall. And you wouldn't even, like at this point, no one's thinking that that's even a possibility that they've dug their way in. So no one's looking for a big hole in the wall or anything. The five guys piled into the first boat, which had an engine and hooked a line to the trailing raft,
Starting point is 01:00:21 which held a mountain of bags loaded with loot, plus Fernando, who stood atop it like a conquistador. Not everything went perfectly, the engine wouldn't start, and Bolsa was too exhausted to argue with whoever kept yanking the starter, which flooded the motor, which would have been so frustrating for Bolsa. I do machines, that's my thing. Engines, that's not how they work. Flooding it doesn't help. But Fernando had planned for everything,
Starting point is 01:00:48 planned for the case of the engine failing and brought all of which he handed out to the men. So they were able to paddle their way out, which was a lot easier because a damn wall had been built and they're in much deeper water than they otherwise would have been. So genius. It was about 10 blocks to the passage where they ditched the boats and climbed up a ladder into an elevated side channel that led to the getaway van. The men took turns
Starting point is 01:01:14 whisting up the bags using a pulley system bolster installed a few days before. Then he pulled up the ladder, leaving no sign this channel of the dozens along the pitch black canal had been the escape route. The boats abandoned below, just floated off. That is so cool. Wow. This is straight out of a movie. It is amazing. And so they chose to go up the canals
Starting point is 01:01:37 where it got darker and murkier, rather than, because they're like, if they find the hole, they're all gonna assume we've gone out to where the canals meet the sea, that they go, it's going to be much harder to trace us in the other direction. So that's why they... So it's just further underneath the city and then just got out. Exactly. That's so... Because I was imagining the whole time that they're going back out to that hole, like you said.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Yeah. So good. When the special forces team finally stormed the bank, the seven bandits watched it on TV while counting cash and eating pizza. They got pizza. Yeah. So it wasn't even a tight thing. They'd made it out with plenty of time. They thought they were watching it live, but the TV stations put it on a 30 minute delay because the cops are like, you can't play it live because they're probably watching it in there and that'll tip them off. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:31 So they were thinking they were outsmarting the robbers, which is pretty cute. And just actually, in a way, it was convenient for the robbers because it did mean that their pizza could deliver a time. They could watch the whole thing off whilst drinking beer and eating pizza. A day later, boss togethered all the credit cards they had found in the safety deposit boxes and scattered them around various storm drains in the area. All of them far from the actual exit point the gang used.
Starting point is 01:02:56 This evidence forced cops to case the wrong blocks and also created dozens of bogus leads because every time a stolen card was used by someone who'd found one, the police had to dispatch detectives to open an investigation. Their forces and energy were diluted bolstered record later. Our advantage was huge. Another genius element to me. Yeah. So just an amazingly planned heist fit for a film and like we already discussed, yes, it was made into a film last year called The Highest of the Century, a comedy thriller and it became one of the most successful homegrown
Starting point is 01:03:30 films in Argentina's film history. Yeah, it was nominated for awards and like I say, if you're in Australia, you'll probably watch it wherever you are. I don't know where you track it down elsewhere. Maybe if you've got an Express VPN, you could watch it on SPS from anywhere in the world. I don't know if that's even a thing. I don't know. No idea.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I'm just saying words. I don't know if they make sense or not. They just come in my head and I said them out loud. So you're probably wondering how were they busted? I mentioned earlier, it was a Jilted Lover. And yes, it was. But which one of the seven? Which one's Jilted Lod do you think it was?
Starting point is 01:04:05 Fernando. It wasn't Fernando, it was Bito. Here I come after the horse with his share of the loot. But he later found some of it missing and argued with his wife over it. Apparently Bito often had extramarital affairs. And when his wife Alicia believed he was leaving her for another woman, she contacted the police. So he was driving away. He said he wasn't leaving. He was just out on a drive with his girlfriend. He wasn't leaving his wife. He was just out on an affair date. That's all.
Starting point is 01:04:36 And the other lady who thought the guy who does engines was having an affair, she was just happy about that he was out. She didn't care. Yeah, that's right. Quite a difference. Oh, you're not having a affair. Oh, God, I'm just glad he's got... Oh, I guess I'll take $3 million. All right. Because he was the only one that wasn't really a criminal.
Starting point is 01:04:58 So she would have been the last thing on her mind that that's what he'd be up to. And his family was pretty disappointed when it came out, because they're all sort of upstanding members of the community and they're like, the bolsters aren't criminals. But also, like he's the smartest guy around. That's amazing what he's done. You've got to give him credit or something. Well, without him, none of this could happen. I mean, obviously Fernando, you know, the brains of the operation, that key partnership was so important.
Starting point is 01:05:26 It feels like maybe most of the others, you were probably replaceable, but those two, you know, hey, look, I don't want to sell the other short. The getaway driver probably was a real good driver. So Alicia, Vito's wife, was able to ID Fernando, bolster, vatette, and Zellich of area, she'd seen them preparing for the highstino garage. As Dock and Lewis had never come to her house, they weren't ideed by her and were never charged with a crime and never will be actually because the statute of limitations has passed. Oh, wow, so they got away with it. Two of the seven got away with it, yeah. Beto was sentenced to 15 years in prison in 2010,
Starting point is 01:06:06 but was released on probation in 2014. In a 2015 interview, Alicia said that she never intended to get the others in trouble. Only her unfaithful husband, Beto. I don't know why she ID'd all the others then, but. How do you think I deem them wouldn't get them in trouble? Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know why I'm mad at her. I mean, at the end of the day, she did the right thing.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Peter remains angry at his wife, for dobing him in, but concedes, if they hadn't been busted, there'd be no infamy or books or movies about the events. There's been a lot of books. I think, I think maybe four or five of the gang members have released their own book or own the process of it.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Like there's so many versions of this story, all probably making them seem slightly cooler, I guess. Of course. I was the real mastermind. And do you say it was only four years in jail for him? Yeah, that's right. Yes, four years after being sentenced to 15. Yeah, it's a big, got an early probation.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Big drop. Beto played a small role in the film. He played the cop who arrests The actor playing himself. That's fun. I love when that happens. Yeah, so Fernando who I'll mention how he finished up a little bit later But he he wrote the first script it got punched up by actual writers I think but he wrote the original script and he was hoping to get all seven members bit parts. Not everyone was keen, though, but yeah, a few of them ended up in the film, which is kind of fun.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Only a small fraction of the stolen goods were recovered after the arrests. Interviewing Bito Dean asked where the rest of it was and Bito replied, you know, when they arrested me, I got a big knock on my head. I can't remember. Guys, why are you laughing? That sounds pretty serious. It sounds like you had like a head injury. Okay. Is you get medical attention?
Starting point is 01:07:53 You get a picture I'm winking. That's just so right, eh? Oh, you know what? It's the craziest thing. I have no idea. Anyway, I've got to go and move my yacht. Yeah. Which has got unrelated booty in it. That's different booty that I found in a legal way. So as for Vatette, in the aftermath of the robbery, it became the most notorious with the press dubbing him, the man in the grey suit.
Starting point is 01:08:23 So cool. In order to be better, the man in the gray suit. So cool. In order to be better, the man in the gray soup. Oh, that sounds yuck. Gray soup. Yeah, but it's intriguing. Yeah. Tell me more. Hey, dude, why is he soup gray? He built up this whole character, Betet, about the man in the gray suit. Because he is a Uruguayan. Apparently, he told some journalists that he practiced disguising his accent by putting coins in his mouth. So he'd talk with coins in his mouth. He also took acting classes before the host to play this the Walter character. And they're doing improv and he's always like, all right, I'm a bank robber. I'm a bank
Starting point is 01:09:04 robber. They're like, no, no, not this time. Not this time. I can't eat a location. I bank. Occupation robber. Fuck. Every time. But depending on the interview, he'll say that, oh, no, that's not actually true. That's just my character that I came up with. The man in the grey suit is a different guy. I'm the guy playing the man in the grey suit. And he comes up with these wild stories. Quite a beautiful tapestry he's waved.
Starting point is 01:09:31 So is this character like you could, like extremely muffled because he's speaking with coins in his mouth? Go on, Paul! Go on! Go on! Sorry, I can't understand you. I said it's like Mallon Brando. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Go on, Paul. You're coming to me. Yeah. Coins are very useful to actors because famously David Sushay perfected the walk of Hercule Poirot by putting a coin between his buttocks and my God. Learning to walk whilst holding the coin up, and that's how he developed that little shuffle that Hercule Ballerade.
Starting point is 01:10:09 And Dave, what color suits his in mainly wear? He loves the coin. And he has a mustache. Oh my goodness. Oh my god. And he's always speaking with coins in his mouth. Oh my god, it's all making sense. And he's always speaking with coins in his butt.
Starting point is 01:10:28 After he was sent to prison, this is the talk about the man in the grey suit, he had his sentence drastically cut due to a legal loophole. As he was not an Argentine citizen, he was able to have his sentence cut in half if he left the country and never returned. You get out of here. Gone get shoot. Shoot. What a, it's a funny loophole because on the one hand you're like, oh, that makes sense. You know, it lessens
Starting point is 01:10:50 pressure on your own prison system. But on the other hand, you're going, hey, come over here, do some crimes. You'll only get half sentences. In 2013, after serving four years, he was deported to Uruguay, where he married and opened a jewelry store. As of last year, six years after his release, Vittet had not returned to jail, making it his longest stretch of freedom since he was a teenager. Just a guy who was in and out of jail, sort of doing that cycle of crime since he was quite young. But it sounds like he's made a real goal but now back home in Uruguay. The Getaway Driver, Zolo Chavaria, was completing his final year of law school in Buenos Aires, University in 2020. He keeps a relatively low profile, but the highest
Starting point is 01:11:40 is so famous in Argentina that even his law professors asked to pose in selfies with him. Despite keeping a lower profile than other members of the gang, he's still proud of the heist describing it as a work of art, which a lot of them do. They all seem to be like, and I can't agree with them. It's just like it's so perfect. Volster received the shortest sentence. He didn't publicly confess to his involvement
Starting point is 01:12:07 until after the statute of limitations had expired. He did, I think he played guilty, sort of under duress, but publicly he's always like, you know, the judge, apparently he says stuff like, well, the judge found me guilty and you gotta trust the judge, I guess, and I guess I did it. You know, but he would never say, yeah, I did it,
Starting point is 01:12:25 not until Statue of Limitations finished and then he did a TV interviewer. He was like, yeah, I did it, yeah. Yeah, 100% of course it was me. Oh, big time. And I was a mastermind and I'm a genius. So that's why in the meantime, before he publicly admitted it,
Starting point is 01:12:41 Fernando who still is great mate, never referred to him by name when he was telling the story, that is still a great mate, never referred to him by name when he was telling the story. That's why he called him the engineer. That's cool. So he'd never threw him under the bus, which is nice. He has since said, bolster, that apart from the opportunity to seek revenge on the banking system, what appealed to him most about the horse was the challenge of it saying, yes,
Starting point is 01:13:03 it's a robbery, but it's a technical challenge too. Of the film, bolster says it's been written to be much more exciting than the reality saying, the truth is too boring because we made no mistakes. Whereas in the film, you know, the film, they have to make it all like, oh, they just got out before the cops stormed the building and accidentally left more evidence, you know, all those sort of things. Otherwise, it's sort of like, you watch a film, you're like, oh, yeah, they really just nailed that. Look at them. I'm not feeling tense at all in this real. Yeah. Not at all thrilled, but I am impressed. That is a man who citizens his only weakness that he cares too much. That's right. I'm probably too punctual.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Yeah, I guess. He's a real pain in the ass in job interviews. Yeah, oh, gosh. Finally, the leader of the gang, Fernando, is now out of jail. So they're all out of jail now. So none of them did huge amounts of time. They all did a little bit, but no one did huge amounts of time.
Starting point is 01:14:00 So he's out. And it seems like he's working full time as the guy from the bank house. He's written a book which led to the film we were talking about before, which he obviously wrote the first versions of the script. He also plans for a TV series about the heist and also a documentary. So yeah, he's just created his own cottage industry around that one fateful day. Like the others, Fernando also thinks of the heist as a work of art, there's Dean writes,
Starting point is 01:14:27 the point of the robbery was to steal money, but it was also to make art. Over time, Fernando has come to see this even more clearly. I'm not a bank robbery says, suggesting that he is something more. Maybe getting caught was inevitable. After all, executing a crime is perfect and then never getting a chance to take credit for it.
Starting point is 01:14:46 There's a little like owning a Picasso, you can't display. And that is the end of my report about the robbery of the century. That, honestly, the term robbery of the century obviously bings it up a lot, but that lived up to it. That was awesome. Yeah. That was a great story.
Starting point is 01:15:04 I can believe I know it, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, me either. Wow. It's really cool. So good. And what do you think of the movie? I haven't watched it the whole way through. I watched the first third of it. And I like it. It's fun. And you know, it looks like it's got a decent budget and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, awesome.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Which is funny. Having watched a lot of low budget bend of Brendan Fraser films. I've been in the hospital multiple so it's always a real thrill to see a little bit of budget in a film. Don't get used to it. Yeah. No, but I, yeah, I'm going to watch the rest of it tonight. I'm looking forward to that.
Starting point is 01:15:41 I started watching it and then started thinking, this is a dramatization, it's gonna sort of cloud my thoughts of the actual events. You know when you start, like I happened to me with the crown, I started thinking like I was remembering history. Like, there's no way anyone knew the conversation between Porkey and Elizabeth, whatever their names are.
Starting point is 01:16:04 What was it, her boyfriend's name? Porgy. Something like that. Doesn't matter. I'm not up to that bit. I'm not up to that bit. You haven't got up to Porgy? No.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Possibly because I've made him up. Queen Elizabeth's boyfriend, Porgy. Wow. We're different than what's happening. I am. What the hell happened, actually? Honestly, that's big news. You don't have to a dip can with Sammy. I don't know what a dip can with Sammy. I don't know what a dip can with Sammy. I don't know what a dip can with Sammy.
Starting point is 01:16:28 I don't know what a dip can with Sammy. I don't know what a dip can with Sammy. I don't know what a dip can with Sammy. I don't know what a dip can with Sammy. I don't know what a dip can with Sammy. I don't know what a dip can with Sammy. I don't know what a dip can with Sammy. I don't know what a dip can with Sammy.
Starting point is 01:16:44 I don't know what a dip can with Sammy. I don't know what a dip can with Sammy. I don't know what a dip can with Sammy. I don't know what a dip can with Sammy. Quail is his boyfriend. Quail is his boyfriend. Quail is his second was having an affair with Porgi. It's embarrassing I have to set it up with Quail is his boyfriend. He's like Fergie, like you just say Porgi, it's like a Dell. He's only one Porgi. He's only one Porgi. He's only one Porgi. He's only one Porgi. He's only one Porgi.
Starting point is 01:17:01 He's only one Porgi. He's only one Porgi. He's only one Porgi. He's only one Porgi. He's only one Porgi. He's only one Porgi. He's only one Porgi. That even knows his last name. Oh, it's so good. Well now it's time for everybody's favorite part of the show and that is the fact quote or question and I believe it has a little jingle that goes something like this. Fact quote your question. And yes, I always remember that ding.
Starting point is 01:17:29 You may have noticed, this is two voices here. We are doing Matt's parts as well. He's been called away to a pressing engagement. He had to rewatch the crowd. He had to fact himself about Portuguese. So he's going to rewatch the entire series and get back to us. So it's JP and I now flying to the section of the show that we dedicate to the people that support the show and the people that we love through Patreon or through dogoonpod.com
Starting point is 01:17:57 and basically we've been doing the show now for nearly six years of it coming up to our sixth anniversary. And the only way we've been able to do that without missing a single week is that people support us online. They pledge either through Patreon or do go on pod.com. And in exchange, you can get a bunch of stuff like bonus episodes. We put out three every single month. We just did another episode of phrasing the bar recently on Gods and Monsters. And it was, it was a critically acclaimed piece, which was a good starring in the Kellan and Brendan Fraser. It's a lot of fun. There's lots of good stuff. So you want to get involved. So I get to take over the role of reading some of the facts
Starting point is 01:18:38 quotes and or questions, which I take very seriously Dave, looking ahead. Three facts, one quote this week. Oh, good to prepare yourself for that. So I love a good fact. We love that, don't we? These people are on the one about upper levels. There's different levels. You get different awards.
Starting point is 01:18:53 And one of them is being able to submit a fact quote or question or brag. Are these for these Sydney shineberg deluxe package memorial people, resting piece? And they also, I believe, get to give themselves a title that we read out just. That's correct. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:10 So first, cab off the rank this week is Alex Batchee. Or Batchee? Batchee. Give themselves a title of Dugo On's Secretary of Transportation. Oh, fantastic. Very important role. Very important role. We are real divas about our transportation. Oh fantastic. A very important role. A very important role. We are real divas about our transportation. Who else is going to book the limos? Yeah. I'm not doing it. Oh, no way. Alex, thank you so much. And Alex has given us a fact and that fact is
Starting point is 01:19:38 hi Dave, Jess and Matt. I've been a big fan since I listened to your very first episode in my high school study hall. Now, six years later, I've just graduated college as a civil engineer. I finally have the $25 a month that you all definitely deserve. That's so nice. Now, my fact. All the way back in episode 94, the Colour Bomb Heist, one of the co-conspirators, Marjorie Deere, deal Armstrong? Yeah, that's right. She was the, had the butter room. Yeah. We're sent to prison in Cambria Spring Springs, PA. Oh my god, I cannot read today. This is not
Starting point is 01:20:18 going to bowed well. Hopefully, all remember that. What you may not know is that the prison used to be a college called Alliance College, and that is the place my grandparents met in 1958. They've been married ever since and frequently take trips back to their old campus to see what's new, though they don't often see much because, you know, it's a prison. I still got back. Oh, yes, I remember that. I still get back. Oh, yes, I remember that. I still got back. So you used to do a tutorials there, and that's sell now.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Alex Rads, I hope that was at least a dull fact, but fingers crossed it passes, Jess is high standards to be a fun fact. Anyways, thanks for your laughs. Don't forget to come to Pittsburgh on the US tour. Alex, thank you so much. It's so nice that you've been listening for such a long time. It's crazy that you were listening in high school and now you've graduated college.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Oh, a little boy's growing up. And I'm sure that's kind of happened to a lot of people who sort of listened through lots of growth and formative years. That's really, really lovely. And that is, I would say, that's a pretty dull fact. Ah, I gotcha! Thank you so much. Next, we have Michael Derrizzi and Michael has given himself the title of Chop Chop Dance Connoisseur.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Everybody did the Chop Chop? Yeah, a very important role that hopefully Michael takes very seriously because we need our chop-chall dance concert to be the consummate professional. Absolutely. And Michael is also even as a fact, and that fact is Alex Smith, NFL quarterback in 2018, suffered a horrific on-field leg injury which required him to be operated on 17 times. Oh! Jesus.
Starting point is 01:22:06 And if that wasn't bad enough, his leg became infected and it nearly had to be amputated, and he nearly lost his life as a result. This is not my fact. Michael says, there's more apparently. In 2020, Smith has recovered and has helped his team earn a spot in the playoffs. And he also won 2020 NFL Comeback Player of the Year award.
Starting point is 01:22:27 This is my fact. Is it fun, Jess? That's pretty amazing. I'm amazed. I'm amazed. I am in awe. I am all struck. Is that an awe? An awe? An awe-inspiring fact. Yes, that is a fun fact, Michael. Wow. See, I mean, I love to hear these stories about people overcoming horrible things and, you know, like just being strong and brave,
Starting point is 01:22:54 but I just know that in that situation, I'd be like, well, I'm done. And what is so wild, I'm looking at Alex Smith now, he's 37. It's not like he was now. So he came back at 36. It's not like, you know, he was a young 19 year old. He'd already been playing for years.
Starting point is 01:23:15 So the dedication to go through those surgeries to come back is quite amazing. That's a bloody, that's an amazing fact. It's a fun fact. Thank you, Michael. Sorry to follow up. he retired the following year. So when through all that. Fair, fair enough.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Oh, amazing. Okay, our next fact-pointer question comes from Mike Shirley. Mike Shirley has given himself the title of Exhausted Dad. And Mike has also offered a fact. Says, hi, hi, I have a fact, says, Hi, hi, I have a quote of sorts, which is interesting. You've said a fact, but you've a quote. First, though, a bit of scene setting.
Starting point is 01:23:54 On a couple of occasions, you've referenced the queen of the infomercial, her royal highness Suzanne Paul. Have we? Have we? Queen of the infomercial, Suzanne Paul. Have we? Have we? Queen of the inferno-ishest. I always thought she was a New Zealand phenomenon. I never realized she made it across the Tasman. Anyway, as a man of similar vintage to Matt, I recall the early 90s at which point Miss Paul, at an arguable height of her power, dipped her toe into the music scene, she released Do the Blue
Starting point is 01:24:24 Monkey, a song every bit as cream just you'd imagine. Maybe this is something that Matt would remember because he's 400 years old. And on the one episode he's not here for the fact quote a question. Sorry. Sorry. Tiny little babies. We don't know. I've never heard of it. Anyway, so to quote the chorus says, get down, get funky. Everybody do the blue monkey.
Starting point is 01:24:44 I love it. That's good. To be funky, everybody do the blue monkey. I love it. That's good. To be fair, most of the lyrics are quotes from her early period infomercials. Deafworths will look on YouTube and maybe even a primates mini report, maybe not. That's it, love your work.
Starting point is 01:24:58 And living in constant hope of a New Zealand live show one day, travel bubble willing, stay safe, Mike. Thank you so much, Mike. Thanks, Mike. We really actually do hope to get over there. We really do. Yeah, that was genuinely, and we've said it before. We said it fairly recently. That was a plan that we had.
Starting point is 01:25:15 I was getting, last year. And then, yeah, obviously things didn't quite go that way. And it looks like it might be a little while before we can but you know We would absolutely love to and finally for this week another fact could a question from Sophie Schueter Who has given herself the title of group mum and in brackets says eat your veggies drink your juice and wash your butt? The big three. The big three. It's given us a quote and just having a bit of a look, it looks like she's tried to really test Matt with like a tongue twister, but it's not him, it's me. So I'll have a go.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Here we go. Betty bought a bit of butter, but the bit of butter Betty bought was bitter, so Betty bought a better bit of butter, but to make the bit of butter better. That was really good. That's not too bad. I stumbled a little bit at the end, that last bit to make the bitter, bitter, bitter, bitter, but otherwise, pretty good.
Starting point is 01:26:12 She said, sorry, Matt, I had to test you with this one. My sister and I used to have competitions to see who could say it faster. We were so cool. Betty bought a bit of butter, but the butter, Betty bought was better, so Betty bought a bit of butter to make the bitter, bitter, bitter. Not bad. I love it. So if you I will try to remember to
Starting point is 01:26:29 make Matt say that, but thank you so much to Sophie, Mike, Michael and Alex. If you want to give us a fact quote or question, you can head to patreon.com for what's like to go on pod and sign up to the Sydney Shindburg Deluxe Rest in Peace Memorial level. And you can also, yes, submit a fact-growing question. But Dave, that brings us to another very important and special time of the podcast, where we thank some other members, some other people who support the show. I'm totally stalling as I scroll. So, do you want to talk? You usually come up with a bit of a game to thank these beautiful people. We give them a shout out and then assign them a name or something like that.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Any ideas on the back of Matt's fantastic report? What about what they dress up as when they rob a bank? What color their suit is. Yeah, no, that's good. They're all in different countries. They rob a bank. What color their suit is? Yeah, no, that's good. That's good. They're all in different colors. It's like the wiggles robbing a bank. Yeah, no, what they dress up as.
Starting point is 01:27:32 I think that'll be fun. Okay, great. Would you like to kick things off? I would love to. I would love to thank from Colani Heights in New South Wales. I would love to thank Brianna Golby. Brianna Golby, who is dressed as a caveman. Yes, and nobody's sass on that.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Yeah, it's like, nobody's like, why is a caveman in the bank? Like, they're also like holding like a stereotypical club. Club, yeah. Yeah, it's like, what's going on? No, I'm just here to do a withdraw money from my account. I wonder if they hear.
Starting point is 01:28:13 She's like filthy. And she got a little checkbook, but it's all just like cave drawings. I love that. It's like you're really committed to this bit, but it's strange. Brianna, fantastic work. Thank you so much. I would also love to thank from Coleroy in New South Wales, Erin, Horrigan, Horrigan. Erin is dressed as a lobster.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Yes, that's so good. Big old lobster costume. I was going to get Big old lobster costume. I was gonna get hungry and lobster costume that I saw for sale. That's really cute. But a human size one is even better. Yeah, even better.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Walk it into a bag. I got a message on Instagram from Pet Barn in August saying, like they're reaching out to people, trying to get people to buy costumes or send out costumes to dogs whose parents, they obviously think, are somewhat influential to get Halloween costumes for their pets.
Starting point is 01:29:16 Oh my goodness. And they mentioned a bumblebee and I was like, imagine Goose in a little bumblebee, so did he be such a cute little bumblebee. And did you sign up for this? I have not, I have not, I may still, but we'll see. Dog influencer, that's a dream career, right? Dog influencer, that's a dream, that's a little Goosey's dream.
Starting point is 01:29:37 He's got to start, you know, paying some rent. Yeah, that's right. I would love to thank as well, from this, SunniPee or Sunapie. Sunapie. In hatred, is that New Hampshire? New Hampshire. When you have showers, I believe they say, that's not true.
Starting point is 01:29:55 It's fun to mispronounce your names and make you angry. It makes them so mad. I would love to thank Matthew Hahn. Oh, Matthew Hahn is stressed as Elton John. Yes. And will only respond to Elton or Mr. John. Mr. John. Is it like a classic Elton look or just sort of like,
Starting point is 01:30:19 quite flamboyant, big glasses, you're like, oh, that's Elton. Big glass, but like, you know, like a 70 Elton, John, yeah, like an amazing hat. It's, it's so large, it's hard for him to get through the bank doors. It's quite impractical to rob a bank, but honestly. Yeah, perfect. And it's like, you didn't think this through at all, but okay. Thank you, Matthew.
Starting point is 01:30:43 And finally, for me, I would also love to thank from Overstrand in Great Britain and NFK. What's that I wanted to do? I don't know. NFK, let me look that out while you are real this person's name. I'm going to say Norfolk. That's my guess. Oh, God, I hope so. Imagine.
Starting point is 01:31:03 It does look like, yes, you are right. It does look like yes, you are right. It does look like Norfolk. Get out. G.B. Dash NFK. There's on the Wikipedia page if it's wrong, I apologize, but it does seem like it. Oh, well done, Jess. Well, from over-stranded Norfolk, I would love to thank
Starting point is 01:31:19 Eleanor Hessein. Ooh. Ellen Patrick, of course. Or hair sickened. LAUGHTER Eleanor is dressed as wash, Dave. Um, dressed as a... an Australian cricketer. Oh, got the baggy green off.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Full baggy green. The full whites. It's even coming with the little stain where they've been rubbing the red ball That's what I was gonna say to see the red stain got it all got it all Illinois. Wow Illinois holding a cricket bat and they're like you can't bring that into the bank. You can't that's a weapon She's like yeah, that's right. It's a toy. I'm here to rob the bank. I'm going to rob the bank. I'm going to beat you with his bat. Oh, I'll go right this way.
Starting point is 01:32:12 So thank you from me to Eleanor or Matthew, Aaron and Brianna. Dave, do you want to thank some people? I would love to say a big thank you and stay in the UK. From Brighton, it's John Pullen. John Pullen. John Pullen, it's making me think of pollen. I think John is dressed as a bumblebee. Oh, human goose, human goose.
Starting point is 01:32:36 But look out for his little stinger. That's right. John Pullen. That's his dick. Oh, okay, that's what God says to you. John, put it away. Put it away, John. Why is he wearing a crotchless bee suit?
Starting point is 01:32:49 Very strange. The only costume place that was open was a sexy place. So, you know, he didn't realise that everybody was dressing up for the bank robbery and he panicked. Left of the last one. He looks dashing. The flip. Well, I would like to thank now from location unknown.
Starting point is 01:33:09 I can only imagine it's deep within the fortress of the models and that is a big shout out to Ryan Forbes. Ryan Forbes. Ryan Forbes. He was dressed as. Ryan Forbes. Yes. Forbes, 100, is that a thing?
Starting point is 01:33:23 Dress is a wealthy, wealthy man. Oh, I was going to say dresses are $100 bill. Oh, he misunderstood the brief. Cam is a rich person. All right. Well, don't rich people have $100 bills. I am the $100 bill. Rich people got lots of cash. And I am cash. I wanted to blend in with the money. On your Ryan, you've done yourself. I wanted to blend in with the money. On your Ryan, you've done yourself. Done yourself, Proud. I want to take now from London here, from London, we've got Sean or she and probably Sean, Arnet.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Oh, Arnet? Arnet's bickies. Yes. What's your favourite, Arnet biscuit? Oh, it's got to be a Monte Carlo. Oh, okay. Where are? Well. Well okay what would you have said? Well aren't it's due shapes. But is it a biscuit? That's more of a cracker isn't it?
Starting point is 01:34:13 So a biscuit I would say probably a short bread cream or a teddy bear biscuit. Okay. Dress is a teddy bear. Dress is a teddy bear. A big teddy bear. Big teddy. And then he could just be like, I'm a delivery, I'm a gift, Valentine's Day gift, or like birthday, whatever. Oh, so sweet, so amazing. Stick them out.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Yeah, it was pal, pal, pal. Two fake guns. Yeah. Sean, thank you so much for your support. And finally, I would like to thank from Dublin, a beautiful place that we've been. And I believe you can now watch our tour video, in fact, that is up there up now on our YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash do go on pod we just released a 20 to 30
Starting point is 01:34:56 minute video that sort of traced out to across England, Scotland and Ireland a couple of years back. And that's now live. Go check that out. But I wondered there at our gig from Dublin, Marcus Rasmussen. Marcus Rasmussen. Marcus. What about I remember at the time? It was very Christmassy when we were there and Marcus might be dressed as a giant Christmas tree. Oh, that's good. That's good. And then everybody's sort of in a nice festive kind of mood. Nobody's suspicious of a Christmas tree out there. They're like, a Christmas tree's never
Starting point is 01:35:31 going to rob this bank. Oh my god, the Christmas tree's robbing this bank. It's honestly the perfect outfit. The perfect outfit. So thank you very much to Marcus, Sean, Ryan, John, Ellen, or Matthew, Erin, and Brianna. We very much appreciate you. And Dave, that leaves us only one other thing that we have to do. Sorry, that we get to do today. Exactly. And that is, of course, check to see if there's any entrance for the trip ditch club, people
Starting point is 01:35:59 that have been on the shout out level, or above for three consecutive years. They get a second shout out out as well as lifetime entry to our very exclusive club. That's right. And there are a few shout outs for today. There are one, two, three, four, five for you today Dave. So I'm going to read them to you and you can essentially what we normally do is Matt is usually sort of there, he's allowing entry into this exclusive club, but not exclusive in the way that it's sort of like, we're not mean about it, you know, like it's for you, but it's not like, we're not, you know, hoidy-toidy, it's just, you know, we're like a cool exclusive club. We usually have like cocktails and a band, Dave Have you booked a band for this week?
Starting point is 01:36:46 Yes, I've actually kept it local to Argentina and we are having the Argentinian scar band from the 80s. We've won a Grammy Award for Best Latin Rock or alternative album and that is I absolutely love scar. Doop it in a bat, bat, bat, bat, doop it in a bat. Love it. You have to make it. I can't wait. And we usually also have like drink specials. I don't really know how I could make it bank highest themed. Maybe I will lock all of these snacks inside a safe.
Starting point is 01:37:21 And you have to lock this, you have to break the snake's snacks out. I love it. Before you can eat them. It's a little puzzle involved. I will be very hungry. Terrible puzzles. Yeah, me too. That's why I never want to do an escape room or anything. Oh, God. I'm worried I'll die in there.
Starting point is 01:37:34 I don't think we're going to die. No, thank you. If anybody ever asks you, hey, Dave, we're gonna die. No, thank you. If anybody ever asks you, Hey, Dave, we think you're like arranging a surprise for Jess. Do you think she'd like an escape room? No. Okay, I'll try and remember that.
Starting point is 01:37:56 And vice versa, I know, I know, I know. And the other thing that we do is that Dave sort of serves as a height man for everybody who enters into the trip-ditch club. I am going to read the names. Dave's going to hype you up. I'm going to hype him up. It's just going to be a big old hype fest. So joining us this week, surname unknown, but from Sydney, Australia, James. Ooh, I ate nothing lame about James. Yeah, it's Dave. Woo!
Starting point is 01:38:30 From Hamilton and New South Wales, we've got Chloe Warren. Move over Alexander Hamilton and welcome Chloe Warren. Yeah, get out of here, Alexander Hamilton. From London, in Great Britain. We have Ian Landman. Oh, I'm on Landman, more like Fondan. Yes, very good. To choose your favorite. There you go. Choose your favorite. From Chatswood and New South Wales, we've got Hannah Hitchcock. Oh, I hope this night
Starting point is 01:39:02 goes off without a cock. Oh! Instead of Hitchcock, you would have expected me to say that again. I had a Hitch. There was a little bit of a... Yep, drag that. No, that was on me. That was very funny.
Starting point is 01:39:13 I missed it. That's on me. I'm so sorry. Very good stuff. And finally, from Indianapolis, I would love to welcome in Kevin McNulty. Ooh, I'm in seventh Kevin tonight. David, whoo! He's done it, ladies and gentlemen, he has done it. Thank you everybody. Thank you to Kevin, Hannah, Ian, Chloe and James
Starting point is 01:39:36 and welcome to the TripTitch Club. Now you're in, you can never leave, so um, enjoy. Yeah, it's cozy, it's got everything you'd need and anything that it doesn't have, let us know and we'll like get it for you. It's fine. Well, order in. Where are I? Except like, you know, your friends or family. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:54 But thank you so much. Is there anything else that we have to, um, that we need to mention Dave? I think that might be about it. Apart from the fact that if you want to join those, uh, beautiful people that we need to mention Dave. I think that might be about it, apart from the fact that if you want to join those beautiful people that we just read out their names, you can go to patreon.com slash doogawonpod or just to doogawonpod.com. And also on doogawonpod.com,
Starting point is 01:40:14 there are links to our Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. You can suggest a topic. We'll give you a shout out of which easy topic. Obviously this one today, it feels like it was more obscure because it didn't even have an English Wikipedia page, but then there was so much in a story like that. So if you're from a place like Argentina that we don't cover as often on the show
Starting point is 01:40:33 and you've got a cool local story, we'd love to hear about it. So do go on pod.com is the place to do that. And yeah, also you can drop us an email. Do go on pod at gmail.com, but I think that's pretty much it, right? Yeah, I think so. So, all that leaves us to do is let you know that we love you.
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