Do Go On - 315 - The Lost Island of Atlantis (with NICK MASON)

Episode Date: November 3, 2021

Atlantis, the mysterious island nation that sunk under the sea has been the subject of fascination for more than 2000 years, in this episode we discuss the stories origin and how the mythology developed with guest Nick Mason from the Weekly Planet!Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: dogoonpod.com or patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Stream our 300th episode with extra quiz (and 16 other episodes with bonus content): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.history.com/topics/folklore/atlantishttps://www.history.com/news/top-6-theories-about-atlantishttps://www.livescience.com/23217-lost-city-of-atlantis.htmlhttps://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/atlantishttps://www.penn.museum/sites/expedition/madame-blavatsky-and-theosophy/https://www.wired.com/2016/05/geeks-guide-mark-adams/https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ignatius-Donnellyhttps://www.britannica.com/biography/Helena-Blavatsky Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.

Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal, and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Hey, mate, before we start the show, I just wanted to quickly jump in and let you know that our great friends at Stupid Old Studios, where we record, we've recorded most of these podcasts at, they are moving and they're trying to raise some funds to help make this happen with an Indiegogo campaign. There'll be a link to this in the show notes.

If you feel like you can kick in a bit, that'd be great. Yeah, Do Go On, we wouldn't exist without Stupid Old Studios and help out so many other Melbourne comedians and comedy groups. And from up and comers to people that are absolutely smashing it all around the world, they help out so many people. And we love them dearly. So if you've got anything that you can throw in there to help the move, that'd be great. And welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnocky and, as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hello, Dave.

Hey, Jess. Hey, Dave. Hey, great to be here with both of you, but also a very special guest is joining us this week, known here as the fourth beetle. It is Nick Mason. Thank you. Bringing the Ringo Star Energy. Just a bad attitude. I'm sick of dealing with the fans. Just leave me alone, but peace and love. But stop talking to me. Don't approach me in the street. Peace and love. You know, he's like that now? Yeah. Ringo Starrs are like that now? Yeah, because he's an old man here. You live long enough. You have the right to tell people, I don't have time for you anymore. Am I Paul then? Paul's the most versatile.

Oh, let's figure it out right now. He's lefty. Paul's the best one. Yeah, he's obviously the most longevity. My dad as a young man looked like Paul McCartney, so there's a genetic connection there too. I saw an article yesterday. I had the clickbait title, which is the richest beetle? Obviously, you're ruling out the two dead ones.

Straight off the bat. Then you got, I mean, let's be honest, Ringo. I didn't need to read the article, but I checked it was Paul. Yeah, it's going to be. Yeah. That was an easy one. Technically, he's also dead, but... Technically.

Technically. We got a technicality there. Do you remember we had bare feet in that photo? Yeah. Obvious. Obviously dead. Confirmed. Now, it's great to have you here, Mesa.

It's a wonderful time of year. Are you aware that this is block? It's the biggest and best time of year. It's the biggest topics. The most controversial takes on those topics. Wow. You guys will say anything. Yeah, we've got some opinions.

Yeah, that's right. You do your own research. Well, we do. It's true. And then you get out here and you let everybody know. Blobtober, aka Hot Take Tober. Yeah, that's right. Where we leave nothing to the imagination.

That's right. I got my dick out. And we keep asking him up to, but he's like, nope. It's that time of year. I know you're imagining it and we can't have that. And then you keep saying my eyes are up here like you're not part of the. the problem. Oh, okay.

But your t-shirt says my dick's down here, so mixed messages I think. My eyes are just going up and down. Yeah, that's right. And it's a hard rock t-shirts, so I'm always looking at it, wondering what city you've got in. So for the uninitiated, the people that might be joining from the power of the fourth beetle, Nick Mason, what we've done is we put a poll out, Matt put a massive poll out, a hundred topics.

Dave, you don't know. What you're saying, mate. Dave, Dave, Dave. Dave, what a key. So Matt put his massive poll out. And then we got people to vote for what topics they want us to talk about. And we're counting down the top seven most requested. That's right.

What are we up to, number four? This is the fourth best, fourth beetle. Whoa, very nice. You've been involved in Block before. You did a report on the Ninja Turtle. It was so long, that topic. Yeah. So long ago and so long.

Some people are still listening to it. Boy, he's still talking about that cartoon, is he? Oh. What have we had so far this year, Dave? We've had John Wayne Gacy, the killer clown. Then we had a double episode about JFK. His life and then his tragic death. Then we had the money pier.

It's been a real variety of topics so far. Yeah, the Oak Island Mystery last week. It's back to me for another report, this block. Another great report, Matt. And the way, well, we'll see. The way we get on the topics with a question, even though I'm pretty sure you three know what the topic is. I'll ask it anyway.

Let's see who's the best actor here. What mythical underwater kingdom has been portrayed hundreds of times in pop culture, including on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, SpongeBob Square Pants, and a MacGyver. Underwater. Underwater. There's an underwater now. Yes.

So there's water. I'm familiar with water. Yes. So this kingdom is under the sea. Yes. What's the thing is better down there? The James Bond and the water. Thunderball.

Thunderball. Is it Thunderball? I've already told the listeners you know what it is. I'm actually sitting right next to Matt and can see his computer. So it's computer? Matt, is it Atlantis? It is Atlantis. I was going to say that.

Well, I just, I got in first and therefore on the telly, I get one for, I get a point. It's interesting that this one has come in at number four on the poll because every other topic so far has had like 10 plus people. suggest it. This one's only had three people suggest it, so I'm not even sure how it made it into the poll. It must have been due to the power of one of our Patreon supporters. But that's an idea. It's very compelling.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, is it real? Is it not real? It's very vague, too. There's quite a lot you could talk about. I imagine that would have been a bit of a nightmare. I was a nightmare to figure out what to talk about. So hopefully

everyone's left disappointed. Do you think big fans of Atlantis have some very specific opinions about Atlantis? I would imagine. There definitely are. Yeah, I finish with a YouTube comment. Oh, great. I look forward to that, a bit of sizzle for the end of the other.

Wow, that's an interesting source. Some strong opinions. When I only saw it right at the end, I'm like, I want to do my own research about this, which is basically what the comment was asking us to do. But the people who have suggested it officially into the hat. Lucinda Spiliopolis from Melbourne, Hillary McKay from Wellington, and Rich Compo from Washington. Rich Compo.

What a payout What a payout I think Rich might have been the patron Who would have had the power To put it into this vote Rich if you're out there and listening Come to Melbourne Just tell people your name

You will not pay for a drink Entire time you're here Gide I'm Rich Compo I'm already but you are mates Did you put it in the list Because he gave you some rich compo Yeah Yeah yeah

A good little Bunsen I reckon this comes up Every time his name comes up Yeah probably Sorry rich What a great name rich Great name Uh, so shall we begin?

Yes. So Atlantis, the mysterious island nation that sunk under the sea. It's been the subject of fascination for more than 2,000 years. So, what's its deal? The earliest known... I don't like this editorialising already. I don't like it. I don't like this informal style.

Yuck. Yuck. Stick to the facts. Yeah. The earliest known references to Atlantis comes in the writings of famed Athenian philosopher, Plato. in his dialogues Tamaeus and Cretaius from around 360 BC.

Apologies for any and all pronunciations in this episode. According to history.com, by the character of Cretaius, Plato describes Atlantis as an island larger than Libya and Asia Minor put together, located in the Atlantic just beyond the pillars of Hercules, generally assumed to mean the Strait of Gibraltar. Right, so that's massive.

Yeah, it's a huge... island basically a small continent wow I think I saw somewhere around the size of Texas some people but I mean these are all estimates

based on what they thought those places were at the time 360 BC so it's still slightly vague but it's very big and also at the time

people counted by saying one too many so yeah so it was like small medium size the size of Asia It's the side size of Asia. It's huge.

And at the time they're like, well, that's the entire world. Yeah. So it's pretty big. It's huge. According to the text, back in those days, Earth was divided up amongst the gods. Athena looked after Athens, for instance, which makes some sense. And Atlantis was allotted to Poseidon.

Oh, not Atlanta. Yeah, it doesn't make as much sense. You familiar with Poseidon? Yeah. Australia. Paul Hogan. Yeah. He presided over it in ancient times

That's our God Hokes, I think Hokes, that's right Poseidon fell in love with a human named Clito And together they had a bunch of kids Five sets of twin boys to be exact What a nightmare

Whoa, one question Oh five boys would be enough Five sets of twins Oh my God, that house would stink Oh As twins smelly of the normal Normal Normal

Normes. Normies. Smell over normies. No, I just think they're so... I mean, twins literally doubles the amount of people you're dealing with. Twice as much as much poop. Teenage boys. Oh my God, they rake.

Sorry if you're a teenage boy, but bloody hell, have a shower. Jeez, I bet they were sitting down and have a listen to a podcast not realizing I'm going to be attacked. Jeez, Louise. My nightmare is just having, like, a bunch of boys. You know, I was once a teenage boy. Oh, my God, yark. I still am. So the eldest of these boys,

Which doesn't make sense if they were five sets of twins But anyway, I guess he was born just before his brother Kind of like Steve War, Mark Wars style, Mark Wars Jr. Yeah, yeah, I was out a minute earlier, so I'm my oldest, I'm the oldest boy. Twins really hold on to that. Get over it, twins. Can I just say, if you're listening on it right now, one earbud, is sharing a set of headphones, get over it, both of you.

Get over it. Yeah. Leave your life. God. Yeah, I mean. No one cares. In a different world, you know, it could have been the other way around. It's just luck. Yeah. Who knows what happened there?

There's a reason Dugan's never done an episode just on twins. Because who cares? I bet you're the person when you're both trying to go through a doorway, you like rush through first. That's essentially all you've done.

Well, guess what? Nobody in that room wants to see you. So don't bother. I tell you what, if you're a teenage boy twin, you are weeping right now. They didn't come here to be attacked. Well, I'm just saying, I'm sorry, Matt,

I'm just keeping it real. If you're a royal twin, yes. Does the lineage go to the twin that comes out Like possibly seconds or if not minutes before the next Or is it double kings? Is it a double king situation? Yeah, yeah.

Is that what a rat king is? Have there been royal twins? Like surely at some point, right? That's a pretty good pocahound. I can't think of any royal twins. Yeah. What about? Prince William and Prince Harry.

Yeah. Yeah. How do we miss that famous example? That's right. There it is. What about Jedwood? Jedd. Jedd. Jed and Wood.

I don't really know much about what that is, but... They seem to have a royal vibe, though, don't know? They wear fancy outfits, I think. Are they the Kings of Ireland? Yes, yes. Or Eurovision, something like that. That's right. Same thing.

I don't know if that doesn't make any sense. So anyway, the eldest... Not everything can be gold during October. That's true. You just throw stuff out, see what sticks. That's right. See if this joke's Eldente. Maybe we get a...

Are you rebranding? Jess is some sort of ethnic comedian. No, you throw past... He throw spaghetti at the wall And if it sticks, it's Aldente Yeah, it's kind of ruined as a meal though, isn't it? He just destroyed the whole thing. Let me just see it.

It's cooked perfectly, but unfortunately, the past is ready. Now let me test the sauce. I tried it with a mud cake and it does not work. Now all five sets of twins get to licking that wall. Be grateful for what you get, kids. Now on kids, get licking. Licking spaghetti off a wall.

That's living. Sorry, the oldest twin was Atlas. This isn't the same Atlas who holds up the heavens and the sky. Okay. The one that maybe the map book's named after. In the Plato text, Atlantis was named in his honor. Atlantis Nessos translates to Atlas's Island. In this text, he also says that the Atlantic Ocean and stuff,

of that was named after this atlas, but it seems like it's actually named after the holding up the heavens. Yeah, this sounds like a conversation Plato had with somebody, and he's just winging it. They're like, oh, so the Atlantic Ocean also named after Atlas? Oh, yeah. Yep. Yeah, you know it?

Yeah, I'm Plato. I know everything. Because that's what, the writing is, it's a dialogue. He's got like four or five characters in it that's how it goes. It's just a conversation that's been in there. And then I said, yeah, the Atlantic Ocean is named after Atlas. And then everyone clapped. It's a true story.

And then they said, you're a hero and I love you. And I said, thank you. Well, Plato's Dialogues, the original podcast. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, just spinning his wheels. And people care now. A lot of blagging. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Don't forget to like and subscribe to these stone tablets. Atlas inherited the Atlantean kingdom before passing it onto his firstborn son, who passed it onto his firstborn son. who passed on his firstborn son and so on for many generations. Plato, via Critius, the dialogue guy, then talks about how virtuous the Atlanteans were, as they were direct descendants of a god, saying,

quote, for many generations, as long as the divine nature lasted in them, I should say this has been translated, Plato didn't say it in English, for many generations, as long as the divine nature lasted in them, they were obedient to the laws and well affection towards the God

whose seed they were for they possess true and in every way great spirits uniting gentleness with wisdom in the various chances of life and in their intercourse with one another Oh no! So they're inbreeding.

I don't know if intercourse means boning there, but I'd like to think it does. Wait, what? No. I'd like to think... This is a paragraph, I didn't take any of this in

and I've read it multiple times, but yeah, it's basically saying, you know, when they had the godliness in them, they were real good people. They just passed it down, one generation to another. But they were diluting it with every generation because it was, you know, it was a half god married a full human, so the next generation it's a quarter god. You know what I mean? Yeah, and then you get people, you know, a few generations down the line being like,

yeah, I'm actually one-16th. Yeah, like that's a great-god. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, yeah. I'm one-16th. I can throw a pastor up against the wall. Cool.

Yeah. I worry about it. My peni is Malto Benet. And I can say that. Talking about your pastor? Plato goes on. They despise everything but virtue. Geez, I've seen a lot of myself in the Atlantians.

Caring little for their present state of life and thinking lightly of the possession of gold and other property, which seemed only to burden them. Neither were they intoxicated by luxury, nor did wealth deprive them of their self-control, but they were sober and saw clearly that all these goods are increased by virtue and friendship with one another. They were really wasting a private island.

Yeah, right. I mean, these are not the type of people that should have proper. They're outside the three-mile limit. They can do whatever they want. No laws out there. Technically, international waters on all sides. Gert by international waters. They don't sound cool so far.

They sound like nerds. Nerds, exactly nerds. Are we don't care for gold? We just care for being virgins. Yeah Get some gold And some roots Yeah

Get the two things They're on in life Yes Now we're talking Well I think I think you're going to enjoy The direction they travel in According to Willie Dry

Writing for the National Geographic I'm sorry I'm sorry Speaking of virgins I feel like I should have seen That one coming Willie Dry He didn't

What do you mean by that I'll do go on So according to Willie Dry William, William Dry Yeah, he knows what he's saying Either you go by William otherwise Or Billy Yeah, yeah

We know what you're up to, Willie But then maybe he knows people would reverse engineer it They'd be like Bill Dry Oh like Willie Dry So he's just claiming it Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah We own it Yeah

I respect that Anyway, according to him Damp Dick, that's me That's what they call me Yeah, the ironic Aussie nickname Would be wet balls or something Something classic like that. Yeah.

So anyway, according to him, there's no way for people to know this, but there is an Australian cricketing legend currently in the building. We should go downstairs and ask him how he feels about wet balls as a nickname. Do you write that?

You write wet balls? Anyway, Willie Troy wrote that Plato wrote that the founders of Atlantis created a utopian civilization and became a great naval power. Their home was made up of concentric islands separated by wide moats and linked by canal. I had to write that out phonetically because canal is maybe my hardest word to pronounce.

As opposed to, is it different to a canal? Got him, got him, Dave. You got him. I'd really struggle with that word and I wrote canal. But it's, what, how do you say it? Canal? Canal. So it's as written.

The sewer's canal. Man, that's so funny. I mean, this is late last night. when I'm having this conversation with myself but that's so funny that I phonetically wrote it wrong Because you said that I genuinely wasn't rousing you I was like oh is that different No

Canal Canal I think you're making a point of it I canal Oh man that is funny Look forward to people laughing at me You inadvertently got him a ripal Yeah I got you It's actually pronounced canal

Well that's the That's the whole I don't want to fall into Willie dry So So it's, yeah, this is, he describes it. It's a lot of circles. It's a fun looking place. The lush islands contain gold, silver and other precious metals

and supported an abundance of rare exotic wildlife. There was a great capital city on the central island. So all the twins got different sections of the island and stuff, and they all sort of ruled them separately. And to be clear, Plato is just making this up. Yeah, well, that's probably the main theory. Yeah. Because he's like, yeah, and it's very well built, and there's like gold and jewels.

It's like so cool. And everybody's really clever like me, and they want me to live there. But I live with you, the gross, dirty mud people. I hate you all. That is kind of right. But he also, I mean, he's using them supposedly as a sort of an allegory. Ah, that's the main... A platonic ideal, if you will.

Exactly. So like I said before, the first generation, half God, half human, and then they slowly, the godliness is diluted as the generations go on. And soon they were conquering other lands such as Egypt and Africa and others through the Mediterranean. As their divinity was fading, their human nature was growing and their ethics declined. And so they're saying human nature. Yeah, so the godliness was decreasing and so was the cleanliness. Yes.

Yeah. According to Critias, when the devil's, When the divine portion began to fade away and became diluted too often and too much with the mortal admixture, and the human nature got the upper hand, they then being unable to bear their fortune behaved unseemly, and to him who had an eye to see grew visibly debased, for they were losing the fairest of their precious gifts, but to those who had no eye to see the true happiness, they appeared glorious and blessed, at the very time when they were full of avarice and unrighteous power. Nice. That's the stuff. That's what I like.

You know, it's like, it's almost talking about the rich and famous. So they look like they're having a great time, but they're actually living a real... Yeah, certainly they're way more miserable than you, poor people with nothing to eat. They hate it. Yeah, they hate this ambrosia and these grapes. I hate it. So while Atlantis was portrayed as a land of declining morality, Athens, on the other hand, in the same story, was virtuous. And the Athenians were excelling.

their work and living in moderation. Soon the Atlanteans try to conquer Athens and the two powers went to war with Atlantis the sea power, Athens, the land power. And the land power of Athens came out victorious. Well, let's think about that. The sea, submarines, stupid.

Maybe some ships. Land, you've got tanks. You got animals that could swim. You know? I would hate to be some sort of twin teenage boy submarine captain right now. You would be feeling pretty bad about yourself with your stupid co-captaining a stupid submarine. Stinking up the submarine. There's no airflow in a sub, is it?

Can't crack a window. Hey Dave, so we've got George and Jonda between us as well, by the way. We've got to figure that out by the end of the episode. Oh yeah, we've got to slip in. I got a slip in a secret word. The two dead. They left us the dead ones. George and John.

Where's George from? Oh, the Beatles. What I thought you were doing there was, let me explain. I thought you were saying we've got to somehow slip John into this episode. Yeah. Because every episode from the last few weeks has been about John. We've done it. And I thought you were saying, we've got to get George in there too.

But we've already done it with John Leonard at the start of the episode. Every episode's about John these days. Perfect. Love John. We've accidentally been talking about John each week. That was fully accidental that I did. That was fully accidental that I, because I don't know if there is a John in here. Oh, right.

So, George and John, so who, are you claiming George or John then? Well, I'm not claiming either. But, I mean, I think they've left us with two pretty good ones anyway, even though they did. Two of the top four Beatles. I thought like Dave might be George. Yeah, you reckon he's the George. Thanks everyone. The quiet beetle.

George is great. He wrote some great songs. John Lennon's seen as the genius one though. Yeah, and he died. Not so smart now, John. Didn't see that coming. Yeah. That's true

I'd say you're a genius Didn't bloody imagine that Eddie I definitely feel like I'm the ringer I'll high five yeah Everyone feels like they're the ringgo I think if you go into it thinking I'm John

You're probably a narcissist Yeah perfect John Yeah John right exactly Anyway I don't know Sorry to sidetrackers again So So Athens This is in Plato's dialogue still

Athens defeats The Atlantians To rub salt in the wounds, the gods get together and decide to punish the Atlanteans further for becoming this debased. Kick them while they're down. They just lost a war. Yeah, exactly. Salt and the wounds are already in the ocean. Oh gosh, they're already salty as hell.

So they get Poseidon to beset them with earthquakes and floods, sinking the once powerful island to the bottom of the ocean in a day and a night. It's quick for a big island to hit the bottom of the sea. But, you know, like the crud's... Everything's better down with its weather. That would cause, like tsunamis and stuff. Yeah. You know, elsewhere. Yeah, imagine.

Such a massive thing suddenly underwater. It's going to affect your bloody water pressures, your tides. Effecting your bloody knee. When the weather goes bad, my knees all sore and that. The old war wound. Yeah, yeah, to this day. That creaky knee. They always know when rain's coming.

That's right. When my knee goes, I know, get the washing off the lawn. I'm just eating corn on the roof. We're mixing a lot of things. Yeah, just ads I remember watching as a kid. That is a, fuck, that's a good ad though. That's an all-time classic ad. Yeah, big time.

Not enough ads for corn anymore. That's true. What is the corn industry sleeping on it? That ad did so well, they don't need to advertise corn anymore. We all love corn. We're all sold out of corn. We can't keep it in stock. Stop doing amazing ads.

For corn. Just forget about the corn hand, all right? We're sick of it. That's all I ever think about. Yeah, this was actually the reason we started doing DoGo On was to distract us from thinking about corn all the time. It was working until you got here. Sorry, I wringoed it.

He's always talking about corn. So it goes down in a day and a night. This all happens sometime around 9600 BC. Hard day's night. Hmm. Sometimes I've been just talking. That was a real hard day's night for the Atlanteans. I'll tell you that.

So, yeah, would you say 9,600 BC? Or 9,600 BC? Whatever. Anyway, it was a good 9,000 plus years prior to Plato being the first one to record the story. Sure, okay. I heard it from a friend of mine. And that's, yeah, in the text, the character of Cretius heard the story via an elaborate game of telephone basically

over a 9,000 year period according to history.com Kretaius says he heard the story of Atlantis from his grandfather who had heard it from the Athenian statesman Solon that's about 300 years who heard it from his uncle

who worked at Nintendo and got them all the games ahead of time that's true and I actually have kissed the girls she just lives in a different state goes to a different school I really covered my tracks different state.

Do a country. She doesn't exist. No. She far! So, yeah, heard from Solon 300 years prior to Plato's time who had learnt it from an Egyptian priest who said it happened 9,000 years before that.

Oh, sure, sure. The last bit is like, anyway, yeah, so then. And so on and so forth. Did he write just and et cetera in there? It's like me now telling you, oh, I heard about this thing that happened 9,000 years ago. Yeah.

Yeah. Like, all right. Why would I believe that? Or give a shit. But I guess Plato is famous. People, you know, that people talk about the Bible sometimes. They're like, you can't trust it. It was written by people hundreds of years later.

This one, 9,000. This is like 10, 15 times that. Yeah, but I mean, apart from anything else, it's unclear. Some people think Plato believed it to be a true story. But a lot of people think he only meant it as an. allegory. But anyway, I'll talk about that a bit later. I believe it, actually. Just want to go on the record. Well, plenty, like, a lot of people do.

A lot of people do. And I reckon they'll be listening to this on our YouTube channel. And please, look, I don't know. Hey, I'm sorry. I don't mean, we're not making fun or anything. It's cool. I wish it was real. I'm making fun. And I hope it isn't real. I know it is real. And I say, all you guys, bloody, you go find it,

walking to the bloody ocean. That's what I reckon you should do. All you're listening, get out of here. Maybe you'll find Atlantis. You like Atlanta's that much? Yeah, that's right. Actually, I'm commenting from Atlantis right now. The Wi-Fi is great. So good.

That's really advanced. Did you like mostly telling people to walk into the ocean? Yes, I did. It's very good. I don't do it a lot, but I think some people. Sometimes it's fitting. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So it seems like the most likely explanation for the story is that it's an allegory. Plato invented the idea of Atlantis and a fictionalized earlier version of Athens to warn his contemporaries of the dangers of hubris, decadence, and greed. Basically, it's a warning, don't be like the Atlantians or society will crumble or something like that. Yeah, right, right. Whether it was purely a work of fiction, I was still debated to this very day. We've got to put it to bed by the end of this episode.

One way or the other, we're going to decide. We'll put it to a vote. A majority rules scenario. So, history.com writes, whether or not Plato believed his own story, his intent in telling it seems to have been to boost his ideas of an ideal society. Using stories of ancient victory and calamity to call to mind more recent events, such as the Trojan War or Athens disastrous invasion of Sicily in 413 BC. The historical authenticity of Plato's tale was controversial in ancient times His follower, Cranthor, is said to have believed it Cranthor.

Cranthor. Yeah, I bet you Cranthor would believe it. I'd believe anything, Cranthor. While Strabo, writing a few centuries later, records Aristotle's joke about Plato's ability to conjure nations out of thin air and then destroy them. Is it? He going to do the joke? You're going to do the joke?

Do you have the joke? Oh, that is the joke? I think it's just a little bit of, of a more of like a waggy kind of Oh okay right Yeah classic Playto It wasn't like you hear about this plateau You hear about this

You see this? You guys heard about this? You guys if you don't find it funny Then you obviously just don't get it Because I do Yeah You don't get me Credulous Creightor

This guy So it's blue and everything I'd like to think Yeah I'd like to think That's how it was Aristotle's comedy festival show Was called Aristotlol

Aristotle was a student of Plato Krantor was a student of a student of Plato named Xenocrates So I don't know I know a lot of these names I sign up to Xenacrates.com And put in, do-go on, you'll get 15% off your Xenocrate And then isn't Socrates fits in there as well somewhere

Yeah, I think he taught Plato who taught Is that right? Yeah, yeah Or the other way around And then the bottom one Was the teacher of Alexander the Great Oh, it's pretty cool. Okay.

So, like, you know, you have three of these really famous names teaching this other extremely famous name. Yeah, it's amazing. I think about that sometimes, like, how people worry about their legacies and stuff now. It's like maybe one or two people from our whole, like, centuries that we're around will be remembered in 100, 200, 400, whatever years. Shad war. Adele.

There's a bunch of people in the same room that are still talked about. now you know yeah pretty wild yeah sorry Adele sorry I got that on delay Adele she's our one and Shane Warren and Shane Warren and Adele Warnie yeah

look I put Merv in the conversation Oh don't be really good news Don't be bloody rid of yours Of course he's in the conversation Yeah the same thing happens here Everyone in the building today We're the ones who are remembered We're talking about us for

Merv Yeah Evan Munro Smith When that volcano erupts underneath stupid old studios and we get turned into carbon. People remember us. They'll say, were they mid-pod? Yeah.

That's cool. Yeah. It's like a modern version of a dialogue. I guess that is true. Here's something that I think, one of those things that I realized and was like, oh, obviously wants to realize it. But platonic, you know, platonic love, that's named after Plato. According to Miriam Webster, this sense alludes to Plato's belief.

leaf that love between people could be so strong as to transcend physical attachments. Sounds like an absolute virgin point of view, but that's Plato for you. But yeah, I never thought, I never, I don't know why I didn't connect those two things. But yeah, platonic can mean two things. It either is platonic love or being about Plato. Plato's version of the story is only the beginning. We're not wrapping this up anytime soon? Afraid not.

So the mythology of Atlantis has been reinterpreted, embellished, and reimagined over the following 2000 odd years. According to History.com, in the first centuries of the Christian era, Aristotle was taken at his word and Atlantis was little discussed. Aristotle's word being, it was just an allegory that you don't have to think about it. You don't have to search for this place. It's not real. It's just a story.

But then in 1627, obviously a bit of time passes there, the. English philosopher and scientist Francis Bacon, who you talked about last week, Bobper. Oh, crossover episode. He published a utopian novel titled The New Atlantis, depicting like Plato before him, a politically and scientifically advanced society on a previously unknown oceanic land, oh, island. So it's a different story, but it was basically an updated version in some ways. According to Simon and Schuster, in this work, Bacon portrayed a vision of the future of human

discovery and knowledge, expressing his aspirations and ideals for humankind. The novel depicts the creation of a utopian land where generosity and enlightenment, dignity and splendor, piety, and public spirit are the commonly held qualities of the inhabitants of Benzolum. That's his version of Atlantis. Didn't really catch on, did it? No, he's been like, yeah, Akamani lives in Benzolome. Yeah, I've got this cool Benzolum tattoo. Yeah. Yeah, Utah. Yeah, you Copia isn't one that another guy came up with. That one caught on. Atlantis.

Because of the ABC show. But then, Bensolm. In this book, Benselam is a mythical island accidentally discovered by the crew of a European ship on the Pacific Ocean somewhere west of Peru. Bacon's book was incomplete and published posthumously. A few decades later, in 1679, Swedish scientist Olouse Rudbeck published a four-volume work titled

Atland Ella Mannheim. In the book, he contended that Atlantis was real. He also set out to prove that Sweden was the original side of Atlantis, which I don't know how he got around it being not underwater. And that Swedish was the original language that Adam spoke in the Garden of Eden and that all human languages evolved from it. Is he Swedish? He was Swedish, yeah.

Right, really trying to put them on the map. Yeah, yeah. A bit of bias here, I reckon, you know. Well, according to History.com, though considered authoritative in his homeland, few outside of Sweden found Rudbeck's arguments convincing. But the Swedes were like, we're really important in the history of the world. Yes, we are. Yes. And we just call them meatballs where we're from.

We're pretty central. I'll tell you what. And that Muppet is just a chef. It's regular chef we call him. Everyday chef man We love him Every other character is called non-Swedish Non-Swedish Kermits

I know Oh the non-Swedish count Back again That is kind of human nature It has been forever That we assume first off That we're the centre of everything And then have to be

Well from where I'm sitting I am the centre I don't know if Australians Would ever claim Atlantis though Like yeah This used to be Atlantis And then We can be bold

We're not that bold. I think we tend to be excited if there's any indication of an Australian in history. An Australian in history. We got hoags, but then the list goes dry. It goes, will he draw.

Yeah, anytime an Astoria vows, like, somebody visits Australia or something, we're like, oh my God. Charles Darwin. Did Charles Darwin go to Maryborough? Is that? Was it Darwin? Somebody else.

Somebody famous. Doesn't matter. Is the Queensland one? The Victoria one. The Victoria one. Oh, that's where my mum. I was born. That's the famous person we're thinking of.

Yeah, my mum. My mum did go to Mariborough, yes. Is your mum the one related to the Prime Minister? No. Wow, you got fame on both sides. Yeah, maybe I was born for this fame, I mean. Maybe it was Dickens. Might have been Dickens.

That's like both very cool. Yes. Maybe both. Oh my God. Imagine. Together? Yeah, yeah, as a team. They did like a documentary travelling around to Victoria.

What a team. It was Mark Twain, guys. Mark Twain. I was close to that. Wow. We jumped around there. The three of them? Yeah, all three.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah. I'd watch that, doco in a heartbeat. According to, oh, I found this great website, Wikipedia.org. Oh. And it talks a little bit about Olaus Rubeck's work. It says his work was also criticized by several Scandinavian authors,

including the Danish professor Ludwig Holberg and the Swedish author and physician, Andres Campay, both of whom wrote satires based on Rubeck's writings. It would have been shooting fish in a barrel, probably, parodying something like that. Yeah, a real comedy of error is this Routberg. Then jumping forward a couple of hundred years in 1882, this seems like the big one. This is when, if it wasn't for this, we probably wouldn't know, we wouldn't think about Atlantis much and it wouldn't be in pop culture. But I think about it every day. Yeah.

Yeah, well, if it wasn't for a. 1882, you would. It's really impacting my day-to-day life. So in 1882, a guy named Ignatius L. Donnelly published Atlantis, the anti-deluvian world. Donnelly was an interesting character, a lawyer, U.S. congressman, farmer, writer and amateur scientist. Great combo. Yeah. Great name, great combo.

Many pies. I mean, it's one of those names that starts so strong. Ignatius L. I think Donnelly is enough. But don't you want it to be more than that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hufflebraffen or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, this is not too late to change, mate? Ignatius Pop. Oh, my God. That's probably his name, right? That's so good. So here's, I'm going to give you an abridged biography from Britannica of Donnelly. Born November 3, 1831, Donnelly grew up in Philadelphia, where he became a lawyer. In 1856, he moved to Minnesota.

order. I'm saying that right? Yeah. With another ex-Philadelphian, John Neninga. Together, the two founded a town intended to be a cultural and industrial center. They named it Neninga City, which feels like Donnelly got a little ripped off there. Yeah. Like Van Halen being called Van Halen.

Supposedly, that was David Lee Roth's idea, but they would say that would be. It had no relation to Eddie. Yeah. just had a random name generator. It came up and then they had to hire a Van Aylen after that. They were like, God, geez, what do we do now? And they accidentally got two of them. They're like, well, this will work.

So while there in Neninga City, catchy name. And that's why we all know it still. I love the idea of like when was the last time you could just found a city? Yeah. That's awesome. I like what they did to attract people to the city. while there they edited the erudite immigrant aid journal published in both English and German to attract settlers

yeah I go well this magazine it's just talking up this town so far only two of us but it's got a great vibe yeah look if you come and settle in the town you can read the magazine you'll get it straight away yeah and the readership is two yeah well I double check my writing and I'll pass it on an old mate Nainga the scheme was successful at first but a financial panic in 1857 caused abandonment of the town,

leaving Donnelly as its only president. Even Naminga left. Oh, no. Did he rename it? Sure. Sounds like low self-esteem this guy. Yeah. You're not going to name a Donnelly world or something?

He ended politics, became an early... The Ignation. Oh, my God. I feel like his life probably would have been different if he thought of that. Yeah, right? Ignatian That's so good Ignation pop

Yes Ignation That's a radio station as well Ignation 94. We are all Ignatian We are all Ignatian So he entered politics

became an early supporter of the Republican Party and served as lieutenant governor of Minnesota And as a US congressman from 1863 to 1869 He left the Republicans in the 1870s and was active in several minority party movements representing the interests of small farmers and workmen returning to Nininga City. I mean, once he leaves, is it still a city? No.

So we went back and edited a liberal weekly, the anti-monopolis, I guess it was against the board game. Yeah, strategies for beating monopoly. in which he attacked bankers and financiers whom he regarded as public enemies. Donnelly's first and most popular book was Atlantis, which traced the origin of civilization to the legendary submerged continent of Atlantis. You probably figured that last bit out. I'll talk more about that soon.

In his books, The Great Cryptogram and Asipher in the Plays and on the Tombstone, he attempted to prove that our man Francis Bacon was the author of the plays attributed to Shakespeare by deciphering a code he discovered in Shakespeare's works. This is something that Bob touched on last week. Amazingly. And also, this guy did a lot of stuff. I'm exhausted just thinking about it. If you became a lawyer, that's enough.

Then found a town, then write some books, and then discredit Shakespeare. And this is back when... Becomes a politician? Yeah. This is back when you didn't live that long. That's true. You know? Like 40 was a good innings.

He outlived 40. He joined an exclusive club. What? I'll talk about soon. The 41 club. The 27 club. Wow. So he's deciphering also, like once he got deciphering, he couldn't stop.

Yeah, once he get into it. His disaffering also led him to ascribe the plays of Christopher Marlowe and the essays of Michael de Montaigne also to bacon. All his deciphering led back to bacon. Wow. Maybe he just wanted to do all this stuff so he could do half the stuff that he thought bacon did. Yeah. Donnelly also wrote a utopian novel called Caesar's Column,

which predicted such developments as radio, television and poison gas. Wow. Did he later discover that Bacon also wrote that? Yeah. Oh, my God, I can't believe it. Bacon works for me. The final words of the book are written by Francis Bacon. Oh, fuck.

I'm such a fraud. But he's making predictions. That's pretty amazing. And then he has a montage playing his head where he looks back at all the clues that he was baking all along. See, I think it was probably easier to make predictions back then, though, because everything wasn't already invented. Right, you're just scattergun. Yeah, yeah.

Say about a thousand ideas. Yeah, a machine that you hear people's voices on. Easy, darn it. We did it. I predicted radio. You'd be a god in this time, man. You don't have to invent it. Yeah.

You just have to predict it. It's kind of like the Apple guy. Yeah, a little device has all your music on it, that sort of stuff. What's his name? Apple guy. Gary Apple. Yeah, Gary Applet. What's his name?

Joe Biden. Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs. Tested by God, Steve Jobs. In it, in this book, he portrays the United States in 1988, ruled by a ruthless financial oligarchy and peopled by an abject working class. And they're wearing hyper-colour t-shirts. It's the 80s, I don't know. He predicted that.

Yeah, yeah. He predicted those t-shirts. Is that hyper-color where you touch it and your hand? These two would know. around in the 90s and the 80s. You would have loved it. You loved it. You touched your shirt and you can see your handprint.

Yeah. And it would stay on and then it would fade away. We live through the future. Now we're somehow back in the past. Wow. Society's crumbled. It's kind of like Atlantis. You know, a really advanced society.

That was the 80s. That's right, yeah. And somehow we went backwards from there. So this book enhanced Donnelly's reputation with the populist party, which represented the discontented farmers of the West and which he helped fernet. found in 1892. At the time of his death,

he was vice presidential candidate of a splinter party called the Middle Road Populists. Not the most adventurous name, is it? Having middle... Better things aren't possible. Or worse things.

So he died at the age of 69, joining other members of the 69 club, including previous topics, Alan Rickman and David Bowie. Three of the best. They're all up in heaven doing what they do. best. Yes.

Go on. Probably acting and writing and stuff. Yeah. Make music. Yeah. What they individually do best. For two. Yes.

He's looking around waiting. And here's my turn. There's always one and three just watching. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's inclusive but not all inclusive. Could it work if you added a third? You'd have to be in a triangle. Yeah, yeah.

Wow. Oh, triangle, the sexiest shape. Agreed. Those teenage boys are all of a sudden enjoying the episode again. I'm back. So anyway, let's go back to his first book, Atlantis, the anti-deluvian world. Anteiluvian. Is that old?

Does that mean old? An old thing? I've written it down somewhere But it's like a certain period before The Great Floods You know, in the Bible, it's the time Garden of Eden and all those times All out to Noah

By being anti, is that saying that that didn't exist? No, that's what anti-deluvian world means. I thought the word deluvian meant that. Gotcha, gotcha, got you, anti-deluvian. So in the book Donnelly suggested Atlantis was an advanced civilization whose immigrants went on to populate much of ancient Europe, Africa and the Americas. So he took Plato's stuff and he sort of supercharged it a bit.

Reboot, remakes. With stuff that he, you know, figured out from research, doing his own research. Yeah, doing research, yeah, girl. So how was he, like, researching Shakespeare's plays from America? In the internet? Getting the text and... Nice. Mate of a mate told him some stuff.

That chain's still going. That telephone's still going. It's been going off for thousands of years. Shakespeare was written 9,000 years ago by Francis Bake. Okay. All right. So, yeah, so he's saying that the Atlantians, they didn't just go onto the sea before they did.

They were the birthplace of civilization and spread it through the world kind of thing. He also posited that their heroes inspired Greek, Hindu and Scandinavian mythology. So that were the beginning, all the famous things, they all traced back to Atlantis. So in the book, he attempts to prove the following 13 hypotheses. Let me read them to you. Okay, great. Number one, there once existed in the Atlantic Ocean.

This is a pretty obvious one. There once was a man from Nantuckin. Theorem number one. It's all dirty limericks. So they once existed in the Atlantic Ocean opposite the Mediterranean Sea, a large island, which was the remnant of an Atlantic continent and known to the ancients as Atlantis. Number two, that the description of this island given by Plato is not fable, as has long been supposed, but veritable history. I think taking out the god stuff, but the rest is just true.

Three, that Atlantis was the region where man first rose from barbarians to become civilized. Four, that it became in the course of ages, a populace and mighty nation from whose immigrants populated civilized nations on the shores of the Gulf of Mexico, Mississippi River, the Amazon River, the Pacific coast of South America, the Mediterranean, and the west coast of Europe, and Africa as well, the Baltic, the Black Sea, and the Caspian, pretty much all the water. And Neninga City or whatever it was called. Neninga. Don't forget Neniga.

Five, that it was the true anti-deluvian world, which is what I was talking about before, it means the time before the Great Flood in the Bible, where early mankind dwelt for ages in peace and happiness. you know, the Garden of Eden and all that, that was all in Atlantis. Oh. Six, the gods and goddesses of ancient Greeks, the Phoenicians, the Hindus, and the Scandinavians were simply the kings, queens, and heroes of Atlantis. And the acts attributed to them in mythology are a confused recollections of real historical events.

So every the year, you know, like all the Scandinavian, you know, Thor and all that stuff, I guess. That were just, that were real kings of Atlantis. and it's just got muddled up in history. Those historians, I don't know what they're doing, making records and stuff. What are they like? Stupid. They're stupid.

Seven, that the mythology of Egypt and Peru represented the original religion of Atlantis, which was sun worship. Eight, that the oldest colony formed by Atlantis was probably Egypt, whose civilization was a reproduction of that Atlantic island. You know, Egypt didn't come up with that stuff. There's some Atlantians went there.

and did all that. Nine, that the implements of the Bronze Age of Europe were derived from Atlantis. The Atlantians were also the first manufacturers of iron. Kind of, basically everything that's ever happened can be traced back to Atlantis. Yeah, he's really gone with, you think all history has been discovered, but I actually discovered some mystery before that history. Yeah. I'm actually the top guy here.

Ten, the Phoenician alphabet, parent of all the European alphabets, was derived from. An Atlantis alphabet. Oh, of course. Oh, literally. Which was also conveyed by them from Atlantis to the minds of Central America. We call it the wet alphabet. How wet it is.

11. That Atlantis was the original seat of the Aryan or Indo-European family of nations, as well as the Semitic peoples and possibly also the Turanian races. So everyone? Yeah. Almost everyone? Feels like the theory is Atlantis did it first. Yeah.

It feels like it's sort of, you know, like modern historians are like everything started in Africa and then moved down. So it's kind of like if he'd guessed better. I'm assuming this guy guessed. But if he'd gone Africa, we'd be like this guy was on to something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 12. That Atlantis perished in a terrible convulsion of nature in which the whole island sunk into the ocean with nearly all its inhabitants. and finally 13, that a few persons escaped on ships and on rafts

and carried to the nation's east and west the tidings of the appalling catastrophe, which has survived to our own time in the flood and deluge legends of the different nations of the older new worlds. So, you know, the most famous example of the flood legend probably is maybe the Noah one in the Bible, builds the ark, animals come marching two by two. But he was getting out of Atlantis. Yes.

Yeah. Well, this is just a, yeah, that's just a like, the telephone over the years, yeah, yeah, yeah. The story got confused and it ended up being null, but it was actually an Atlantis thing. But there's also, apparently this is like most cultures have some version of this flood legend. There's examples in Norse, Greek, Hindu, Chinese mythologies.

But as it turns out, according to Ignatius, these stories all evolved from Atlantis. You know what I mean? So he's saying, but the big flood happened there And then everyone just over time It just got confused And they thought it was their own story or whatever Great, so how was he gone back through the telephone

And deciphered all of this thing Wow, yeah, how does he know? A lot of logiopes, I think Yeah, okay A lot of guesses Yeah Oh, they've had a flood, they've had a flood Probably the same flood

You know what? I reckon that flood came from Atlantis How many floods could they really be? Yeah You know what I mean? Over 10,000 years, how many floods? Yeah I mean, sure, Neninga was flooded like 50 times

It's unlivable. We built it. We built it on a swap. Yeah, it's on a flood plan. We thought that'd be great, you know? Good for crops. Turns out floods a lot. It's in the name.

I should have looked up what that meant. I feel a bit silly, actually. Flood plan just sounded cool. Donnelly's book is said to have inspired many other works, including those by James Churchwood on the lost continent of M.U., which is a whole other story but has similarities to Atlantis. It was in a different area, but there's another island that went underwater. Quicker to say.

Yeah. But then you have to say it enough a couple of times because you're like, is that right? Yeah. Mew. Mew. Yeah. Mew. And by that point, you may as well have said Atlantis.

Mew. Mew. Miao? According to Benito Serino writing for grunge.com, after Donnelly's book, Atlantis. Nirvana. Atlantis. It's where Nevada came from.

Not everybody Not everybody is from Atlantis But everybody who lived in Atlanta's They started a band Yeah And a really good one Yeah

Yeah Can we think of a wet band I can't think of any Wet Wet, where where Where we go Yeah they're from Atlanta Yeah nice

The Water Boys Is that a thing The Water Boys Probably Can't rule it out Impossible to rule it out There's a band From the Isle of White

Called Wet Leg Yeah great Terrific. So is that? Yeah. Pearl Jam. Yes. Yes.

Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes. Cold play. Water is cold. Yeah. Sometimes.

The Beatles. The Beatles. Did I say the water boys yet? Yeah. You should have. You nailed it. People absolutely scream at their iPods. Stop doing a podcast.

They're screaming. Just stop. Please. I can't turn it off. So after Donnelly's book, Atlantis was everywhere in popular culture and the arts. It didn't hurt that around this time, science fiction was starting to take off as a genre. So you have Captain Nemo finding the sunken continent in 20,000 leagues under the sea. Dave.

That is a previous book cheat topic. Episode eight, maybe. Who was on it? Do you know who was on? Beck, Petratus and someone else. Was it in Mayso? Well, Mesa would remember. I said, you remember, were you on the 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea episode of Book Cheat?

Can confirm no. Okay, that is the spin-off podcast where I tell you about the plot of a classic book. And yes, they do take the Nautilus with Captain Nemo and Professor Aranax. They do go to Atlantis and they meet someone from there. Folks, if we could seamlessly add this into a 30 seconds ago, the beach boys. Oh, yes. I was also thinking the cruel seas. Crawl C's good.

Waves, yes. Best Coast. Best Coast. Or Atlantis. Geez, these are all the things people were yelling at their iPods. Yeah, they were sure. Oh, the water boys. Yeah, there's go, right.

Yeah, I totally forgotten about 20,000 leagues under the sea and the fact they actually go to Atlantis. Yes, and it's just like stop by on the way through. Yeah, so it's like an advanced futuristic submarine that can go basically anywhere. Oh, yellow submarine. You'll get emails, you'll get emails if I didn't say that. And yeah, you're right.

It's like small, because they go to all these different places. And one of them is like, I just stop by Atlanta and meet some people. Octopus's Garden. This is just going to be a common thing. It's just going to keep coming up and just keep going.

Billy Ocean. Oh, yes. Frank Ocean. Oh. That's it for oceans. Yeah, yeah. Danny Ocean, obviously. That's a film.

Oceans 11. 12. 30, oceans 8. Sweat shop boys. Is that a thing? Yep. Sure is. Sweat is wet.

Yep. Sweat is wet. You heard it hit first, people. That's do go on. behind that sweat is wet. It's on the t-shirt, new merch. Sweat is wet. Hashtag in a while.

Hashtag sweat is wet. That is wet. I love, um, we've named like 20 now and still people will be saying, why didn't you say this one? Yeah. Sorry everyone. On purpose is the reason.

We knew it and we didn't know. We didn't know. The one you're thinking of is shit. Nice try. Dickhead. That's right. No, we want to know. Let us know.

All those twin boys. He's been in a submarine. God, we've been harsh to the twin voice today. So Dave, so yeah, I haven't read that book. And I don't think I've listened to that episode because I can't stand Pete Jones on podcast. He's the other one. Yeah, that'll do it.

Can't stand him, can't listen to me. He's voice just grates on me. Awful, awful stand-up, awful newsletter. Yes. Well, I personally would really like him. Oh, geez. Really at odds with your opinions of him. Yeah, well, on the record it is.

But we've all heard what you said. Off pod. Yeah, I'm in love with him. I actually, I really liked him until you convinced me otherwise. Yeah, but so did they go into much detail about Atlantis? Were there people living under there? Because that's something that slowly evolved. Obviously, Plato didn't say that when they went under the sea as punishment,

that they all survived and kept this cool world where they played octopus drums and stuff. I remember they get out of the submarine, like, and put on these suits. because it is underwater. Yeah. And they're like, maybe they talk. They get out and then put on the suits. Yeah.

Really? And then there's water inside the suit. They're like, this is fucked. But yeah, I can't remember too much. And there's definitely an active volcano down there. But for more,

listen to a book sheet because I can't remember much. We'll get it. Serino continues on pop culture uses of Atlantis, listing lesser known works like C.J. Cutliff Hines, The Lost Continent, the story of Atlantis from 1899. There's also the 1919 French novel Atlantida by Pierre Benoit or Benoit. They probably say Benoit.

It's probably Benoit. Proposed the twist that Atlantis is actually in the middle of the Sahara. Now that's a good twist. Oh, yeah, that's a good twist. You wouldn't see that coming. Also the plot of Aquaman, some of it. Oh, right. I'm going to ask you a bit about this soon.

All right. Aquaman. Because that's all the information I had. Okay. Well, can you save it? Yeah. Are you able to repeat that later? Can you shut up for a second?

Yeah, yeah. No, can you actually do it though? Yeah. You're doing it wrong. Look at him trying. Oh, no. He's trying to shut the fuck up. Thanks for coming on our podcast.

Now, shut up. Serena goes on. Atlantis has since featured in books of all kinds, from Robert E. Howard's Cull to E. Ian Culfa's Artemis Fow. Oh, yeah. The first four films to go to Atlantis. We're all adaptations of Benoit's Atlantito, apparently.

The first to do its own thing was the serial Undersea Kingdom featuring unabashed Flash Gordon rip-off Crash Corrigan. Crash Corrigan. That's good start. That's very, that's quite unabashed. Yeah. Mom, can we have Flash Gordon? We have Flash Gordon at home and then you go home and it's Crash Corrigan.

No. I'm just based off the name alone, I think I'm going with Crash Corrigan. Yeah. What about Crash is good? What if it was Clash Corrigan? Is that better or worse? What about Splash Corrigan?

Cool. Is that a band? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's my band. You guys want in? No. Okay, good, good.

It was just out of politeness. I just asked out of politeness. I was hoping you say no, because I don't want you in my band. Do you ask, do you ask everyone? Yeah. You order a coffee, you invite the Brewster to be in your band? Yeah.

God, you must be wishing for no. Because if people say, yes, too many people are bad, yeah. I'm too polite. I regret it. I like it. So, still with Serino here, says, since then, dozens of movies, I reckon it's hundreds, but he says dozens of movies have seen characters visit Atlantis, including Disney's 2001 feature Atlantis, the Lost Empire.

That's probably... Which I've never seen. But he notes that Lost Empire has production designed by Hellboy creator, Mike McNola. Oh, I left that in because I thought Mason might find that interesting,

is it? He created Hellboy. Also in 1999. And that's interesting. Mike is short for Michael. Welcome to Mike. In 1994, McGiver found Atlantis in a TV movie,

which is pretty fun. That's fun. Do you have a follow-up to that one? No. Because they also did it in Stargate Atlantis. Which is also McGarver actor. He's in Stargate.

Wow. Right? Recycling ideas. I can't get enough of it. Technically, he wasn't in Stargate Atlantis. But maybe he guessed, maybe he made a guest appearance. And in Stargate Atlantis is that, I don't know if you go into this, Matt. Is that based around Atlantis?

Is that why it's so important? Yeah, but I think Atlantis is in space. Oh, okay. Like in Stargate, the gods are like aliens. And you go through a Stargate. And you're like, oh, it's the Egyptian gods, but they're not, but they're aliens. So I think they're also Atlantis. It's also tying into the idea that the aliens built the pyramids and all that.

sort of stuff. Yes, I think so. Yeah, okay. Scrooge McDuck finds Atlantis while hunting for quarters in the classic 1954 story, the secret of Atlantis. That's the true primary source right there. He's searching for quarters. Yeah, like coins.

Scrooge McDuck. Fallen on hard times. Yeah, very, very rich. Can't get enough, just go. Yeah. I mean, yeah, he's, he should read Plato's original story about Atlantis, which really talks about greed being bad. I get a feeling of McDucks more of a

Greed is good type character. He's a real, that guy. Gordon, Greco. Yeah, there we go, yeah. Greco Gordon Gecko. The guy invented wrestling and Wall Street. Atlantis is also the home of superheroes, Aquaman, and Namor, the Submariner.

But separately, separate Atlantis. What? They both exist in the same universe. No, Namor, the Submariner, is Marvel. Yes. He has yet to have a movie, but he probably will at some point.

So he was... Was he an Aquaman rip-off? No, he came first. Ah, interesting. Namor debuted in 1939. Oh my God. I love how you have this info on your head. 39, big year, actually.

Big year, along with the original human torch and Kesar, who was Tarzan, but punched on with dinosaurs. Oh, sick. Marvel Comics number one. But Aquaman is from DC. But they're both half human, half Atlantean hybrids. Right.

But the difference is, Namor has little wings on his feet so he can fly with his little wings. Wow, that feels like... On his ankles, yeah. That would be like a balancing nightmare. Does he go feet first? No.

Into the air? No. So he sort of hovers like a drone. Yes. Yeah, yeah. So he'd have to learn to balance like he's on one of those... Like a...

Segway. Segway, yeah. Wow. He's like on a Scar Segway. But they're both like, you know, we're sick of the human world and we're going to invade it and we're, I'm mad about it. Oh. Yeah. So he's, they're both hybrid so they can survive on land as well as in water. Unlike the Atlanteans generally. Yes, exactly exactly like the Little Mermaid. But yeah, but like most Atlanteans can only survive underwater. Gotcha. So when they go onto land, they wear like diving suits but they're filled with water.

Oh, just like in. 20,000 leagues under the sea. Precisely, that's right. That's interesting, yeah. So I don't think I'd heard of name all the submarine, but that's interesting that that was the original. Because in previous episodes, you've told us about Marvel characters.

Yeah, yeah. I vaguely remember that you said that often Stanley and the Marvel crew would take a DC thing. Yeah, but this is the opposite, I think. This was many decades before Stanley got his hooks in. Yeah, good. Oh, that's cool. But I don't know if...

I don't know if Aquaman is a rip-off of the Submarinist specifically, but they share a lot of... I think it's basically like, okay, well, he lives from... In Atlanta's, how do you make him... How can he fight crime in New York City or whatever? Yeah. Just say he's half human, whatever. Right.

You know, so... Yeah, it sort of feels like it's the kind of thing that two people would get to a similar idea. Yeah, yeah. And another one is apparently Superman's college... girlfriend Laurie Lamaris is also from Atlantis apparently. Oh yeah. Vaguely.

I think she's been written out of continuity. I think she's... He loves LL. He does, yeah. Lana Lang, Lois Lane. Larry... Legend. Larry Leisure suit.

That's Superman's current boyfriend in DC Comics. Larry Legend. Very controversial. So I looked up a DC fandom wiki and it says, I mean, it's quite, I won't go ahead. Are you going to catch me out here? No, no, I think that would be funny. Actually, it is.

938, but it sounds like they've worked in with the things we've been talking about a bit. Like the great deluge or the great flood is written into the DC world, a geological catastrophe that occurred some 9,600 years ago, the same as... Yeah, and often I think they have like a... They have sorcerers and the sorcerers do some magic, so they don't all just immediately dream. around when the nation sinks. Oh, that's interesting.

So I'm going to talk about someone who wrote in a lot of the sorcery and stuff coming up where a lot of that stuff came from, which is pretty wild stuff. But apparently on Earth 2, which is, is this one of the DC? Don't get me star. Here we go. Here we go, folks. No. So I think they've changed it now anyway.

But on Earth 2, like Superman and Batman started fighting crime in the 30s and in Earth 1 they started fighting crime in the modern day so they're different connoities that exist in parallel to each other but in one Superman and Batman are really old so Earth 2 is the World War 2

universe basically well apparently in Earth 2 there are possibly four different versions of Atlantis alone I'm so amazed that you keep all this info on your head pushes out everything else let me tell you What's your pen number? No, that I know. What one of them, it says, by Aquaman's own words,

My father, a famous undersea explorer, he turned to his work by solving the ocean's secrets. His greatest discovery was an ancient city in the depths where no other diver had ever penetrated. Really dry? It's hard under the sea for that to happen, but my father believed it was the lost kingdom of it. Atlantis, he made himself a watertight home in one of the palaces and lived there,

studying the records and devices of the race's marvelous wisdom. From the books and records, he learned ways of teaching me to live under the ocean, drawing oxygen from the water and using all the power of the sea to make me wonderfully strong and swift. By training in 100 scientific secrets, that's got him swift. He became what you see, a human being who lives and thrives under the water. So that's one version. of it.

Yeah, they will, what occasionally is they'll do in comic books is they'll swap out one ridiculous, like, scientific explanation for like a different scientific explanation. So, like, you know, they'll be like, oh, radioactive spider. Nah, nanotechnology makes more sense, doesn't it? When you think about it. Right. You know. When you think about it, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was silly back when they wrote it. Yeah, but they were all, back in that era they were all about, like, I've raised my kid in a pit of wolves and taught him out to be the best fighter in the world and, you know, etc. And now he's Aquaman. This other one, circa 10,000 years ago, the wise men of Atlantis looked on in the future

and foresaw not only the earthquake and the tidal wave that would engulf the city, but also the wars and plagues that would visit the world thereafter. The Atlanteans preferred to exclude themselves from the rest of the world, creating a dome around the city, which kept the population alive under the sea. They weren't water breathers,

and twice by a month their machinery would create a whirlpool, until the surface in order to supply them with oxygen. The Atlanteans were contacted by the Nazis during World War II, and Batman was successive in dissuading them from this profane alliance. That's two, Batman. So there's a wild. Okay. So that's a totally different thing again.

It was a dome that they breathe air under the water because of the dome. So there's all sorts of different versions of it anyway. And then like the movie, the most recent, movie version, they're just sort of like, they can breathe under the water, right? Yeah. Yeah. And the octopus plays the drums. Octopus plays the drums. Very important. That's the main bit that I remember.

That's canonical. He's a comic book character. They didn't invent him for the film. He's real. Is that true? Mesa, is that actually true? Yes. That is sick. Jess hates that movie. Do you?

I don't, yeah. That's fair. That's okay. Jess and I saw it together, and it's one of the worst films I've ever seen. I thought it was a bit of fun. I think the setting we saw. already added to that as well. Yeah, sorry, we were delirious at an airport, like in Singapore. Was it Singapore airport? We had a stopover for a few hours and it had... Was there a cinema? Yeah, it's a cinema. It's like a free cinema that anyone can just,

just walk in there, but then like there's people's phones going off. Someone snoring? Yeah, like people sleeping in there. And then yeah, a kid talking to their dad and somebody else just going, shut up! Sometimes you just, somebody would just jump up and we go, oh, two hours late from a flight because I was watching Aquaman. That's so good. Seats were fairly uncomfortable. And there's just the end of it where he bursts out of the water and says, I am Aquaman. We pissed ourselves.

Do you have to say that in a superhero film? I am. Not necessarily. Like for example, Shazam, the character Shazam never says his name in the movie Shazam because it's technically Captain Marvel. But they're legally not allowed to use the name Captain Marvel because Marvel owns the name Captain Marvel. So they went the entire movie without him saying,

my name is Captain Marvel. That must have been hard for the script writer. Because Shazam's a secret word to make him, Captain Marvel? Yes, Shazam is the wizard that gave him his powers. Oh, right. Oh, this is confusing. No, it's very simple. Every other piece of information out of your brain.

Birth dates of loved ones. Your own phone number. I hope I haven't offended you about saying I didn't like that quite. No, that's quite alright. I liked it at the time, but I mean, I've... I think Jason M.O. is cool. He's a cool guy. I'm pretty sure, like, DC,

fans are divided on as well. It's not like it's everyone thinks it's great or bad. There's not a single line in the script that isn't, fuck, what's the word I'm looking for? Terrible? What about when he says, how about I pee on this? Why don't I, you know, he's going to pee on the thing.

That's true. Aquaman and Namor, both grumpy as well. Okay, there we go. Probably the ocean depths that make them grumpy. Yeah, I'll do it. I mean, Jess, you'd probably hate Namor the submariner even more. in a submarine. Oh my God, that's so dumb.

There are dumb watercraft. I'll say that. Yeah. They're silly. Exposition. He's the word I was looking for. Like every line is just exposition. Yeah, yeah.

And then there's an homage, I think, to the other. Gotcha. Because like, yeah. Aquaman sort of become like an archetypal character. Another, I always thought that the Little Mermaid was set in Atlantis, but it's actually Atlantica. Oh. So I don't know why Disney were like.

Copyright. Yeah, because I don't think you're in copyright. I think Plato's work might have slipped out a copyright. I don't know. You lived for a long time, that guy. So this, it's basically Atlanta. So it's a kingdom located beneath the Atlantic Ocean, and it's ruled by the Sea King. King Triton and the sea queen Queen Athena,

which is obviously a nod to Athens, I guess, and the whole mythology. So that's sort of interesting. But yeah, anyway, let's go. I thought with having Mesa here, we have to do a bit of comic book chat. So thanks for indulging me there. You're very welcome.

But now, yeah, I'm going to talk about a few other, just quickly, genuinely hundreds and hundreds of examples of Atlantis being used in books and movies and whatnot. I'm going to list a few quickly that have linked back to previous two go-on episodes. Like previous topic, Arthur Conan Doyle wrote a science fiction novel called The Maricott Deep, which describes the discovery of Atlantis by a deep-sea diving crew, who find it's still inhabited by high technology society,

which is adapted to life underwater. So at some point, this comes in where people just, they don't just go under the scene drown. Sure. They adapt. Yeah. Very quickly. Because there's this. A day and a night, adapt.

Well, I've got gills. What are you guys doing? I got a dome. Damn it. Yeah, some of them saw the future. They got the dome ready. Yeah. They didn't just think to move to another place.

That's right. They built a dome. Shorelock Holmes. Ah, one of my favorite wet. bands. The wet bandits. Yes. We're nailing this. Yeah, we're pretty good at it.

We're pretty good a podcast. Another previous topic, HP Lovecraft, another previous block topic, wrote the temple in which a German naval submarine sinks to the bottom of the ocean during World War I before settling on the lost city of Atlantis. Another previous topic, J.R.R. Tolkien wrote the Silmarillion, which... Semillon. It's actually pronounced. I have no idea that's pronounced. And it includes the history of his adaptation of Atlantis, known as the island of Numenor or Western Essie,

where the Numerarians lived. Numenor was the home of the most advanced civilization of man in the history of Middle Earth. And much like Atlantis, the island of Numeron was swallowed into the sea in a single night. So it feels like he just changed the name there. It doesn't change anything else. You know, Aragon from Lord of the Rings? Is he the Anmiyaks guy?

No. No, that's Gimli. Oh, giblets, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Well, apparently Aragorn is a descendant of these people, so. Oh, okay. Is Aragon the white-haired one? No, Aragorn is Vigo Mortensen.

Oh, gotcha. Aragorn is Vigo Mortensen. The 1987 Teenage Mutantin Ninja Turtles cartoon has two episodes involving Atlantis, apparently. In the lost queen of Atlantis, the island rises from the sea outside the coast of Greece. And then in another episode, Atlantis awakes, the turtles help a merman or mur dude find his way back to Atlantis. This Atlantis is totally different from the one featured in the previous episode. Oh, wow. It's so funny that they were...

So we're going with a two Atlantis theory here. Yeah. On the Simpsons episode, The Monkey Suit from season 17, Homer has a to-do list, which, has the item find, comma, destroy Atlantis, already ticked off. And in the future Armour episode, the Deep South, the team discover the Lost City of Atlanta,

a parody of Atlantis. But yeah, like I said, there's so many examples. Anyway, what's your favorite, folks? Did we miss out on it? Yeah. We did it on purpose. Definitely, definitely,

um, send us, tweet us or whatever. I'd love to see more. Seriously. I'm, if, Because I reckon everyone will be thinking of a different childhood memory of their favourite

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And oftentimes if you just read the list, you go, okay, well, there's that and that and that. Yeah. Maybe there's a striking image. Yes. A delightful scene on the YouTube's. One of my earliest memories is watching this cartoon Lost City of Gold, and apparently there was some, yeah,

which makes a lot of sense that it would be connected to all this mythology. So anyway, I want to talk about Helena Blavatsky, who also wrote about Atlantis. back in the day. And these writings, which included that stuff about wizardry and all that sort of stuff, wizardry. Also helped launch a whole religion. Ooh.

Oh. She was, sounds like a really interesting woman. I'm about to do a real mini report based on the Britannica biography. Born Eleanor or Helena Hahn on August the 12th, 1831 in Ukraine. And at the age of 17, Han married Nicarfour V. Blavatsky, a Russian military. military officer and provincial vice governor, but they separated after a few months. Obviously, that's how she got the name. She became interested in occultism and spiritualism and for many years traveled extensively

throughout Asia, Europe and the United States. She also claimed to have spent several years in India and Tibet studying under Hindu gurus. I love that it's written as claimed. Claimed. No receipts. Checked a passport, no stamps. No diplomas. In 1873, the year the St. Kilda Football Club was founded,

she went to New York City where she met and became a close companion of Henry Steele, Olcott. And in 1875, they, along with several other prominent persons, founded the Theosophical Society. In 1879, Blavatsky and Olcott went to India. Three years later, they established the Theosophical Society headquarters in Adja near Madras. They didn't get a lot of traction in... London or in New York where they set it up, I think, originally. So I went to India and got got a bit more love. They began publishing the Society's Journal, the Theosophist, which Blavatsky edited, and the Society soon developed a strong following in India. Asserting that she possessed

extraordinary psychic powers, Blavatsky was accused by the Indian press of concocting fictitious spiritualist phenomena. After protesting her innocence while on a tour of Germany, she returned to India in 1884 and was met with an enthusiastic reception. Soon after, she left India in failing health. She lived quietly in Germany, Belgium and finally in London, working on a small meditative classic, The Voice of Silence in 1889, and her most important work, which we're going to talk about a fair bit soon, the secret doctrine in 1888, which was an overview of theosophical teachings. It was followed in 1889 by a key to theosophy. Have you heard of

theology? I don't know if that's how you're into say it. No, it sounds like a mispronounced word, but I think you are probably saying it right. It's got, it's the kind of word that you could hit each syllable and totally change us. Sounds like you're trying to say philosophy. Yeah. But you're very drunk. Philosophy. So I was really a book about the office. It's very interesting. I have to get another jigger, I don't tell you about this book. I think I know that guy. This, not mentioned

by the Britannica bio, but Brian Fagan writing for the Penn Museum also lists professional penis. Did you say the Penn Museum? Penn Museum. Which was in Pennsylvania. Oh, okay, never mind then. Irrelevant to me. I don't care. I honestly thought you meant the Penn Museum in Birmingham, which we had the opportunity to go to.

And when we were in Birmingham, it was the number one tourist attraction on TripAdvisor, but for some reason, we didn't go. Oh, no, I don't remember that at all. You could have got a, like, a commemorative t-shirt. Pay one of those spoons. Yeah, spoon, commemorative spoon. Yeah, nice.

Magnet. Yeah, magnet. That would be great. Yeah. Maybe a pad to ride on. Anything but a pan. Go a pencil. No problem.

Get some textures. That's fine. What if they were like, we only sell pencils because pans aren't very good. They're not reliable. Don't work in space upside down. This museum is about the horrors of pen use and how bad pens are. Yeah, war museums aren't going. How good's war?

Yeah, that's right. We're saying some war at the bloody gift shop. By grenade in the gift shop. Yeah, that's right. So not mention in Britannica, Brian Fagan writing for the Penn Museum, Double N, also lists professional pianist and circus horse rider on her varied CV. At the same time? Like the two people who really,

influenced this whole mythology in the last couple hundred years, had those sort of lives of, sounds like they packed in hundreds of years in their lives with the amount of different professions they did. And kooky shit they got up to. So where does Atlantis come into all of this? Great question, Matt. Well, that may you feel this one.

I was going to ask that just now. I hadn't lost the threat at all. I definitely remembered we were still talking about Atlantis. And not pen museums. In her book, The Secret Doctor. Fagan continues. It's a six-volume work that serves as the basic text for theosophists all over the world. In this work, she wrote about seven root races of humanity.

Let me just say that I am winning that race. You're winning the root race? Wait, it's not like golf day with the lower school wins. Yes. Yes. That's it. That's the end of the episode, folks. You'll tell you the truth hurts.

Rudia means boning in Australia. Yeah, nice. Is that clear? It means supporting America. Very different places. My handicap is seven. My handicap is Willie Dry. I just think a minute.

I'm like, is that the guy? Willie dries my caddy. So Fagan continues. So she wrote about the seven Root Race. of humanity. The first consisted of invisible astral jellyfish. Of course. Obviously.

All right, everyone say one word at a time. Invisible. Sure. Jellyfish. All right. So, and the way she wrote, I think she sort of collated stuff from bits and pieces everywhere, but also through psychic visions and stuff. Fantastic.

Yeah, cool. I think she spoke to someone who maybe was at Atlantis at one point and they helped give some of the information. So she's got like a first source on. this. Yeah. That's why there's no other,

yeah, and it's not written down. Amazing. So she's got the first is invisible astral jellyfish. I think of all the seven root races

there's also seven subraces of each. I won't go through all over. And do these become humans or something? Yeah, so this is the evolution.

Where some, well, I'll get to us. Okay, great. Terrific. So we start with the invisible astral jellyfish. Yeah. Second, we've got the

Hypoborian who lived near the North Pole and we're also bodiless. next came a race of egg-laying lemurs. I mean, you'd probably be guessing a lot of this anyway. They had eyes in the back of their heads. They lived on the continent of Limeria,

located in the Pacific Ocean. Lumeria was, there was a guy who sort of, this was his suggestion of why certain lemur fossils were found in some place and not others. He said there was possibly a land that was full of lemurs. Oh, yeah, okay. And that was just like his sort of, actual science that was his

like theory which has since been disproven but anyway she sort of brought this in as a part of the whole

biggest story here grabs some if you really reaching for stuff just grabs some yeah grab it bring it some theories

apparently this is still from Fagan on the Penn Museum website the Lehmurians were naughty they discovered

sex which was their downfall Dave so you you're still looking good all of a good stead their continent

was destroyed leaving only remnants that we now know as Easter Island and Australia. What? This used to be Lumeria. What? Limeria. Nice. Leria.

Eastern Ireland several thousand kilometres away. Yeah, that's how big it was. Wow. Yeah, there's maps of this that showed like it was real big. Yeah, and also the Lumerians were really big. Actual size those heads. Wow. So it was actually only like a short walk.

Yeah, you're right. So then we had the fourth race. They were the people of Atlantis. And then the fifth were ourselves. Nice. So that leaves two more, two to come still. And the remaining two are the guardians of our infant humanity. Their home lies in outer space, specifically Venus.

All of this is peculiar, strange and exotic and has proved enormously popular ever since the 1880s. These aren't my words. These are Fagin's words. Pagans, yep. So in Theosophy. Fuck. Theosophy The Atlanteans were just a stepping stone

In evolution What I've read is just a simplification Of what they believe There's obviously a lot more To these root races But reading about it Made my headache There's so much

It's really like Oh my head is throbbing Reading about this So I went to a trusted resource That I've just stumbled across I haven't mentioned it to you before Wikipedia.org Oh yes

Is that like a root race website Well their page on root races was pretty good, so I'm going to read a bit from it. This is from that website. Blavatsky's model was developed by later theosophists, most notably William Scott Elliot in the story of Atlantis in 1896 and the Lost Lemuria in 1904. I've said that differently every time. Annie Besant further developed the model in Man, Wentz, How, and Wither, which is one of my

favorite titles for any book ever in 1913. Both Besson and Scott Elliott relied on information from Charles Webster Ledbetter, who obtained his information by astral clairvoyance. That's why to do it. And it was sort of like meditating until you start just seeing truth. And then you write it down. Wiki also talks about Theosophy's beliefs about Atlantis, saying the civilization of Atlantis was at its height between about 1,900,000

900,000 years ago called the Golden Age of Atlantis. That's gone back a bit. That is going back a billion. That's even, okay. Quite a bit, yeah. So there's some discrepancies between what they believe and what science believes. Just some. Yeah.

Okay. The Atlanteans had many luxuries and conveniences. Their capital city was called the city of the Golden Gates. At its height, it had two million inhabitants. There are extensive aqueducts leading to the city from a mountain lake. The Atlanteans had airship. that could seat two to eight people, which I love these kind of details about a million years ago.

Two to eight. Certainly not ten. Be a squeeze if they did. What about one person? Nah, you need two to operate. You got to put the keys in at the same time. The economic system was socialist and the Atlantians were the first to develop organized warfare.

The military deployed air battleships that contained 50 to 100 of fighting men. These air battleships deployed poison gas bombs. Why, they need the men then? Great question, isn't it? Yeah, fighting men. Sorry to finally pick a hole in this theory. Oh, there you.

I felt watertight, like that Atlantean dome in D.C. The infantry-fired fire-tipped arrows. And one of the seven Atlantean sub-races, like I said, each root race has seven sub-routraces, was the Toltex, and they ruled Atlantis. The Toltex went on to colonize all of North American and South America, the downfall of Atlanta started when some of the toll text began to practice black magic about 850,000 BC corrupted by the dragon, Thevatat.

There's a dragon. Yeah. Cool, man. Sure, of course. The people began, I mean, at what stage do you just go, all right, I'm a fantasy author. Just buy my fantasy books. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool.

That's okay. It's an all right thing to be. It doesn't have to be real, you know? I reckon you go on. You don't have to think it's real for us to buy. You go into the publisher's office and you're like, okay, I've got this book and there's going to be a dragon and there's going to be invisible jellyfish and black magic and and and and lemurs that lay eggs. Yeah. And the publisher goes, oh, this, we're really looking for some nonfiction.

Yeah. Yep. There's a gap in our history book section. Well, that's what it is. Great. Yeah, this is real. Can I have an advance? Whatever gap in your market it is?

Yeah. That's what I'm doing. Yeah, it's for kids. Yeah, it's a cookbook. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great recipe at the end. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Heaps.

The people began to become some of the people. That's the preamble to the recipe. Yeah. A million years of the marine history. I like you to know the culture of the dish before you try to cook it. Yeah, yeah. You know, he really bonds you with the food. Absolutely.

But then you just get a spatula and you just scrape the eggs for it. And then you put some cheese or whatever in there and then it's scrambled eggs. And you did it. You did it. It's. You did it. So it with bacon, if you want. Yeah.

You buy my next book to learn how to make baked. That one written by Francis Bacon. Of course. So the Atlantean people began to become selfish and materialistic. Soon thereafter, the Turanians, another subrace, became dominant in much of Atlantis. The Turanians continued the practice of black magic, which reached its height around 250,000 BC, and continued until the final sinking of Atlantis. Probably would have been really good at black magic by then.

Oh, yeah. So good. That's a lot of time, isn't it? Oh, a lot of sleight of hand. practice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is this your... No.

It's a shame. I've been practicing that for 600,000 years. Well, keeping him in balance, they were actually opposed by white magicians as well, so there were both black and white musicians there.

The master Moira, which is such a great name for the master to be. When I think of Moira, I think of the gift shop on morning TV. But originally, Moira was the master

who incarnated as the emperor of Atlantis in 20, 120,000 BC to oppose the black magicians. The black magic spells to breed human animal chimeras. And they possessed an army composed of chimeras that were composites of a human body with the heads of fierce predators

such as lions and tigers and bears. Oh my. That ate enemy corpses on the battlefield. The war between... I love it that it's not animal bodies with human heads. It's just regular humans. Just a tiger head or whatever. That's cool.

And they eat the corpses. So they come in after the battle is won. Thanks for fighting for us. The clean up team. Yeah. Classic. The war between the white magicians and the black magicians continued until the end of Atlantis.

The masters of the ancient wisdom telepathically warned their disciples, the white magicians, to flee Atlantis in ships while there was still time to get out before the final cataclysm. The final sudden submergence of Atlantis due to earthquakes occurred in, 9,564 BC. They were able to get it more precise. That's pretty close, yeah. So it was right.

Yeah, it seems that way. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't just some sort of opium dream or whatever. It's real. What drugs did they have back then? Probably just sugar or something. Yeah.

Just driven a mad with sugar. I get it. I'm not allowed that Skittles. I know, Mesa, you want to hear quickly about the 6th and 7th root raises. The ones to come. Yes, but not. quickly. Okay.

Take your time. All right. I will. Matt, I'd love to hear him quickly. Okay. Dave, you're the tiebreaker. I'll try and feel the difference here. Let's have a lot of info on six, but wrap it up for seven.

I want too much detail. It's the good one. No, this is the gamble we're taking. So as far as the sixth route race, according to C.W. Ledbetter, who was the Cleavoyant guy, a colony will be established in California. I love that. What a spot to set up a colony. The sixth race is the California raisins.

In California, they're set up in California by the Theosophical Society under the guidance of the masters of the ancient wisdom in the 28th century. So there's still a bit of time to go for us, the fifth root race. And they're going to set up in California for an intensive selective eugenic breeding

of the sixth root race. By that time, world will be powered by nuclear power and there will be a single world government led by a person who will be the reincarnation of Julius Caesar. Oh, so not Magic Moira. No. But Magic Moira was probably talking through. Right, through Julian Caesar. Reincarnated. And that's the Grand Puba, the real leader of the world. Yes. Wow. Tens of thousands of years in the future, a new continent will arise in the Pacific Ocean that will be the future home of the sixth route race. California west of the San Andreas Fault will break off from the mainland of North America and become the island of

California off the eastern coast of the new continent. Feels like they must have had some support in California and they really wrote them into the story. Hope the bloody future leader of the bloody universe doesn't mind bloody Los Angeles traffic. Am I right, folks? More like Los Angeles highway, more like a car park. Hollywood sign. The Wiki continues, breaking down the city. seventh final route race.

The seventh route race will arise from the sixth route race on the future continent that the sixth route race will be living on... Ran out of esteem there. Yeah, the seventh one. Oh, come from the sixth one, I don't know. That is pretty much how they've all gone. They sort of evolve out of the one prior. Oh, I forgot at the start.

I promised seven, whoops. The seventh race will be Charmander. It's a Pokemon. That's the only Pokemon I can think of. Mew 2. There we go. This route race will be the last race to appear on planet earth.

So maybe there will be an eighth one. I'll just be in space. Theosophist Scott Ramsey predicts that any sexual difference among humans will cease to exist and both conception and birth will become entirely spiritual. Man, this is definitely written by virgins. He also writes humanity. No more boobs in that. Nah, yuck.

Nah. Yeah, nah. He also writes humanity will have a great spiritual development and he describes this development in the following words. everything that is irredeemably sinful and wicked, cruel and destructive will have been eliminated and that witch's fan to survive will be swept away from being owing, so to speak, to a calmic tidal wave in the shape of scavenger plagues, geological convulsions and other means of destruction. Just be wiped out. I mean, you know, it's it sounds like if you get stuck in any

religion, there's a lot of fanciful stuff, right? Yeah, and there's a lot of end-time stuff as well, Yeah, there's always, they're always opening seals and fires coming out and that. So, you know, I mean, I think it's, this is, this is pretty possible stuff, maybe. I don't know, I'm not the one to say it. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts later, but. Annoyingly, we won't be around to know over there. I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We could leave a time capsule or something. Oh, that's cool. I think maybe there is, like, I think this might also include stuff like reincarnation and stuff, maybe. So maybe we will be around. Yeah, that's true. maybe one of us will be Julius Caesar. Yes. Shotgun.

I don't want that pressure. So it's all pretty wild stuff. By the way, when... Disagree. I think it is normal stuff. It's the normal stuff I think of every day. Understandable, believable, logical things. This is what I would have written as well if I was writing, Diosophy.

So when Fagan described the fifth root race as ourselves, meaning current humans, Povatsky's writing actually calls this root race as Aryans. which was mentioned by Donnelly as well, Aryans, which I think is a defunct thing. I never really knew what Aryans. Whenever I hear Aryans, I normally think of one thing. And yes, apparently the Nazis were big fans of Blavatsky's stuff. According to Serrino, foundational works of Nazi philosophy such as Alfred Rosenberg's

The Myth of the 20th century are based around a racial theory that posits that modern white Europeans were descended from the hyperborean people of Atlantis, all based. based on ideas from Blavatsky's work. There you go. Good one, Blavatsky. Giving stuff to the Nazis that believe in the stuff, you goose. What a goose. Anyway, enough about root races.

Let's move on. We're on the home stretch here. It's fair to say that the Atlantis Plater wrote about has evolved to be almost unrecognizable via the writings of people like Donnelly and Blavatsky. author of Meet Me in Atlantis, Mark Adams, is one of the current experts on Atlantis. He popped up in many of the articles I read. He became an expert by traveling the world speaking to other Atlantis experts.

And Atlantis experts. Not that many of those. Wyatt wrote an article after interviewing Adams saying that today we think of Atlantis as an advanced civilization living in a bubble city underneath the sea, which is a far cry from Plato's story. The more fantastical elements were supplied by supposed psychics like Madam Blavatsky who claimed that Atlantis fell after the beginning, after they began breeding centaur like sex slaves through black magic.

So I didn't come across the sex slave part of the... I think this guy's added a bit of that. He's like, yeah, crazy stuff like, Centaur sex slaves. Think about that. Give that a go. Pretty hot. Run that through your mind, oh.

But Adams apparently takes, doesn't expect Plato's version to return to prominence anytime soon. Because it's boring. Yeah, basically he says Blavatsky's version's a lot sexier. It makes sense that that's the one that people like in movies and in pop culture. Sex sells. It's true. Imagine an Aquaman where it's like, yeah, we're all just very intellectual here.

Yeah, he's just drowned? It's a whole movie where he's just floating face down. This idea, this is from our man, Mark Adams. This idea that the Atlanteans were a super race, none of this appears in Plato. He says they had some big boats, but none of this stuff about mining and advanced wisdom appears in the original story. It's really Donnelly who starts the ball rolling, and people like Madame Blavatsky, she gets involved, the theosophist. And she is the one who says it was an ancient race a million years ago, and they had nuclear power, airships and magic crystals. It's really that era that invents the Atlantis that we now know, which is the reason why, if you talk,

to a philosophy professor or an ancient history professor, nobody in academia takes Atlanta seriously. He was saying when he wanted to start getting involved in it, he emailed a few professors saying, I'd love to talk to you about Atlantis and maybe trying to find it. And one of them replied, if you don't want your whole career to turn a shit, you'll abandon this now.

Your name will be mudded. Wow. And so he is the foremost expert. But does he... But he doesn't believe? He's more of a lame and guy. No, I don't think he really believes in it. But he's just sort of interested in the mythology.

Sounds like a lot of academics are like, don't look into it. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds cool and sexy. Like people would know about it and we're going down to Lannis having sex parties with centaurs. And we're doing evil black magic. But don't look into it. Don't look into it. Just don't look into it, buddy.

Don't look into it. Yeah, career's over if you look into it, mate. Yeah, definitely don't go over there. Your career is mud scenes. That's a real threat. Yeah. Mudd's bad. Yeah.

Your family will be killed by me. If you don't stop with this trident. I'll trident you to death. Mud's what happens when you mix water with land. Is it a clue? Yes. It's not a clue. It's not a clue.

People continue to search, of course. A guling Atlantis found results in many stories from mainstream news sources reporting on new discoveries of Atlantis. Such as NBC's headline, Lost City of Atlantis believed found off Spain. or Express.co.uk's Atlantis found clear and obvious evidence of Plato's lost city sunk near Britain. Oh, near Britain. It seems to be found in a new location every few years.

I found it on my toast. I just did my toast and then Atlantis was on the toast. Oh, my God. Did you still eat it? Yeah. Oh, Mesa. It was last one. Atlantis was hiding in plain sight all along.

The crust edge on it. I had to eat it. It was last one. Yeah, you got it. According to our man, Willie Dry, there were many theories about where, Atlantis was in the Mediterranean off the coast of Spain, even under what is now Antarctica. Pick a spot on the map and someone has said that Atlantis was there.

My house. That's according to Charles Orser, curator of history at the New York State Museum in Albany. Every place you can imagine. All right. So I'm going to finish by giving you six theories. You're going to go through the theories and then we vote. We vote as a group. That's what I want to hear.

Whether Atlantis is real or not after this. The seven theory. And that is definitive. All of the above. I say number four without hearing any of them. Wow, right. Okay, interesting. All right.

So this was... Atlantis was based around the idea that Jess Perkins was real dumb. You voted for it. Yeah, that's right. It got me. So writing for history.com, Sarah Pruitt summarised the top six theories about Atlantis. Here they are.

Number one. Atlantis was a mid-Atlantic continent that suddenly sunk into the ocean. This is the idea that Atlantis was an actual historical place and not just a legend invented by Plato. This is, you know, Donnellys, those sort of types. Okay. Number two, Atlantis was swallowed up by the Bermuda Triangle. Oh, good one.

Yeah, that's a bad. Other previous report as well. In the 1970s, Charles Belitz, author of many books on paranormal phenomena, claimed Atlantis was a real continent located off the Bahamas that had fallen victim to the notorious Bermuda triangle. I would get anything, weren't it? It's bloody triangle. I know. Yeah

Bottom was bloody pit This is insatiable Triangle the sexiest of all shapes As we I lost my car case the other day Bermuda Triangle It mentions that the Bermuda Triangle is a region of the Atlantic

Where a number of ships had supposedly disappeared under mysterious circumstances I did a report on it Which I don't really remember But it involved Babados Babbados and manganese from memory They're the two major bits

I remember supporters of this theory pointed the discovery of what look like man-made walls and streets found off the coast of Bimini, although scientists have evaluated these structures and found them to be natural beach rock formations. That's what they want you to think. Yeah, that's right. That seems convenient. Number three, Atlantis was Antarctica. Rebranded.

Yeah. Another theory that Atlantis was actually a much more temperate version of what is now Antarctica. is based on the work of Charles Hapgood, whose 1958 book, Earth Shifting Crust, maybe hungry for pizza somehow, featured a forward by Albert Einstein. Oh, late Albert Einstein revealed.

Pretty good. According to Hapgood, around 12,000 years ago, the Earth's crust shifted, displacing the continent that became Antarctica from a location much further north than it is today. This more temperate continent was home to an advanced civilization, but the sudden shift to its current frigid location doomed the civilisations inhabitants, the Atlantians.

And their magnificent city was buried under layers of ice. Hapgood's theory surfaced before the scientific world gained a full understanding of plate tectonics, which largely relegated his shifting crust idea to the fringes of Atlantean beliefs. Number four, this is one that Jess believes. Here we go. Come on, Boppa. This is what you reckon, Jess. Yes, this is what I think and I believe. The story of Atlantis was a mythical retelling of the Black Sea flood.

A real... Jess, please elaborate. Well, this theory presumes Atlantis itself was fictional. Look this way and elaborate. Matt has really big font. Yeah, I feel you would. And my eyesight's not that bad. No, Matt, I reckon you've done all this writing.

I'd really prefer to let Matt tell the stories. He's worked so hard on this report. Especially this deep into the report, people are nodding off. We don't want someone to start talking with energy, snapping them out of their sumber. This theory presumes Atlantis itself was fictional, but the story of its demise was inspired by an actual historical event. The breaching of the Bosporus by the Mediterranean Sea and subsequent flooding of the Black Sea around 5,600 BC. So maybe they just got it 4,000 years wrong. At the time, the Black Sea was a freshwater lake half of its current size.

The flooding inundated civilisations known to flourish along its shore with hundreds of feet of seawater in a short period of time. Perhaps less than a year. As inhabitants of the region scattered, they spread tales of the deluge and may have led thousands of years to Plato's account of Atlantis. I mean, if you think it like in 360 BC, what's the difference between 9,600 years and 5,600 years, when it's a game of telephone anyway? Right? $4,000. Yes, that's true. Mathematically.

Mathematically. Mathematics. Very correct, actually, yeah. Good theory, Jess. Thank you. That's probably one of the better ones. I know. You guys all think, oh, Jess, dumb.

But time and time again, she proves herself only a little bit dumb. Number five, Atlantis is the story of the Minoan civilization, which flourished in the Greek island circa 2005. to 1600 BC. This one seems to be maybe one of the ones that gets a bit more traction.

One of the more recent Atlantean theories concerns the civilization that flourished on the Greek islands of Crete and Thera, just say that like it's written. Now, Santorini, more than 4,000 years ago.

The Minowans, named for the legendary King Minos, believed to be Europe's first great civilization, the Minowans built splendid palaces constructed paved roads and were the first Europeans to use a written language linear a at the height I don't know if that's what it is or if that's something else but I'm just still reading the words of old mate Pruitt it just said bracket linear A if I go back to the

website it's the thought they used it'll be like a that'll be like a hyperlink to an ad get a pair of linear A's so comfortable by now I get 30% off At the heart of their power, however, the Minoans suddenly disappeared from history, an enduring mystery that has fueled belief in a link between this great doomed civilization and Plato's Atlantis. Historians believed around 1600 BC, a massive earthquake shook the volcanic island of Thera, triggering an eruption that spewed 10 million tons of rock, ashen, gas into the atmosphere. tsunamis that followed the eruption were large enough to wipe out Minoan cities throughout the region, a devastation that may have made Minoans vulnerable to invaders from the Greek mainland.

So that one, you know, some people are right. It'd be based on something that maybe that's where the story came from. And finally, six, Atlantis didn't exist at all. Plato invented it. Most historians and scientists throughout history have come to the conclusion that Plato's account of the lost kingdom of Atlantis was fictional. According to this argument, the Greek philosopher invented Atlantis as his vision of an ideal civilization

and intended the story of its demise to be a cautionary tale of the gods punishing human hubris. No written records of Atlantis exist outside of Plato's dialogues, including in any of the numerous other texts that survived from ancient Greece. Furthermore, despite modern advances in oceanography and ocean floor mapping, no trace of such a sunken civilization has ever been found. So that's what a lot of people there are like, in those 9,000 years,

there's still a lot of writings that exist today, and you'd think this superpower with advanced technologies and stuff, or this advanced civilization that disappeared under the water, someone might have mentioned it at some point. Yeah, it's going to turn up somewhere you'd think. Now, Matt, if I had a suggestion for the next time you do a report on the history of Atlantis, maybe lead with that, the thing where it doesn't exist probably,

and then ask the rest of the group if they would like to, continue with you because some people might feel like their time has been wasted Matt you get to the end and they say probably wasn't real and you feel a bit stupid

it was all a dream no I mentioned that towards the top I didn't feel like I wasn't listening towards the top I don't get listening every five minutes 10, five minutes gosh

so what do you reckon Jess obviously number four to have any thoughts? Or maybe you've got your own theory, Dave. I actually think they're all right. Yeah, at the same time. I believe them all, especially the jellyfish man won.

Yeah, it does make a lot of sense. Root Race number one. Invisible flying jellyfish. Yeah. I think that they've got some. Astral jellyfish. Astral jellyfish. I call them invisible flying dolphins.

This is my own little nickname for them. And yeah, I think that they somehow have connected up with the mole people who pulled a plug. Yep. That plug actually sucked. the island down towards the... Every child's bath time fear. Yeah, exactly. The whirlpool.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The island went down at one day. The mole people obviously enslaved the Atlanteans and then Aquaman saves the day. That's nice. That's pretty good. That's my prediction. But in the year 2800, sadly, we will not be here for that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My prediction. Also, the mole man's a Marvel property and Aquaman is from DC. In the year, 200800, if we finally learned to get along. Disney will have acquired everything. Yeah. Well, is... Mole man's an actual...

Yeah, he's a fantastic four villain. Do you know that? I did not know that? I mean, you'd struggle to come up with one. We've done this before, I think. You just say a random sequence, string of words. I've got crabs on my socks. Is there a crab man?

Probably. Crustachio. The great crustaceo. Crabband makes you really itchy. Forgot to mention before when we're talking about Aquaman and that, Scuba Steve from Big Daddy. Scuba Steve. I'm Scuba Steve.

if I'm remembering that right. What about you, Mesa? Well, I was thinking as you were going through it, one seemed pretty plausible and so did six. So I'm going to meet in the middle and say theory three and a half. Great. So I'm in between three and four. Yep.

Nine and three quarters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's probably the most plausible. So, yeah, so you reckon that it might, maybe it either did exist? Yep. Or did not exist. Yes. Yes, that's exactly right.

Wow. That's so decisive. Yeah, I'm brave. It's like that guy's cat only in Ireland. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So I said that was to finish, but I got to, I did say at the start that I was going to read out of YouTube comment. Because this is, it's one of those ones where people are fully believing in it and they're like, do your own research. You don't believe the mainstream or mainstream media and all that sort of stuff. Would you put them in the same basket as Flat Earthers, do you think? I Because I would Put them all in there They're the same

Look I don't I've got to do some more of my own research Yeah yeah sure sure Sure Sure Yeah sure sure I'll come to a conclusion on that one But

So I watch part of this You know these like National Geographic shows Where they're like They talk around in circles For an hour And they show some graphics And there's some

They've gone to a deep sea dive site And that sort of stuff And there's a lot of overlay Like the scientists Walking along the beach Picking up like Cryptwood. And there's like the,

it's, you know, like the movie ad guy voice, doing the voiceover. It's real big. And they found, you'll never believe what they found next. That sort of stuff. So I watched part of one of these videos and people loved it in the comments. It's had like millions and millions of views.

And one guy, the first one that I read that was sort of like, hadn't drunk the Kool-Aid or had the red pill or whatever, depending on which way you want to look at it. he wrote he he he this is I don't think any of us expected that

actually I could see it really I did oh it's so funny this is the first time I've been in a room for a while I think

Where have you been? Just outside Scroom at the moon Absolutely Yeah And I didn't even set it up. This comment, this comment is actually written from the perspective of Plato.

Okay. Oh. He-he. Maybe I should finally tell everyone it was a It was a metaphor. Nah. Smiley face emoji. Okay, so this got quite a few likes, maybe 160 likes.

And is that like, so the account, says Plato. No, whoever it was said, Platoed two dots, one above the other. Yeah, yes. Colon? Colon. Mm.

Then got a longish rebuttal from another user, you know, not that long, but let me read part of it. Aristotle. And this is someone... Aristotle, lol. Loll. I get the... I read this too late.

I'm like, I'd love to look, because it seems like they're, you know, they've taken to another level and probably taken in some of the people we've talked about before. But it reads, the Aztecs had Ashtlan, the Norse had Asgard, and the pharaohs had Atlantis.

And they all say it was somewhere out in the Atlantic where their royalty came from. These are different names of the same place. Loki gave Odin his horse, and Odin gave us the runes. I'm not sure how that's relevant, but Osiris gave Egypt its technology, and Thoth gave us the alphabet. Kukul Kekul.

What's a Kuklekan? He was an Aztec guy. He was an Aztecs after the apocalypse and Hutsil Pocotuli. I haven't looked up any. This is just a comment, okay? Cool, cool, can. Have you guys considered maybe you could pivot away from reports

and just talk about YouTube comments? Just do a podcast for you do that. That's a great show. Yeah, it's called Don't Read the Comments. Well, we read the comments, so you don't have to. Oh, that's fun. And then, yeah, Hutzil poctil, stood as their eagle-headed father of war

and the receiver of fallen warriors. The aquatic serpent, this is a reply to, he-he, but I imagine if someone's going, he-he, it's all a joke, and it's like, this is your life's work. You'd be like, you would be pretty much furious. You'd be like, I do not think so, he-he.

Let me break it down for you. I refer you to Kukal Khan The aquatic serpent being taken over succeeded by the eagle It should sound familiar if you take mythology Or ancient history seriously at all No That's so good

But if you truly are unable to comprehend this The blue pill is probably best for your own sanity Oh wow So Plet is so much in there Yeah did play to reply He did reply Loll

Lowell. La Mayo. Yeah. I mean, this reply came months later, so I don't know if Plato's dropping in that often. But anyway, that's the end of my report. I mean, I do find that sort of stuff does excite me a bit when someone goes, what if Asgard and Atlantis and all these places were just different names of the same magical place that really existed? You can see why people would get excited by that idea. Well, I guess the question is, they say do your own research, you've done your own research.

What do you think? Yeah. That's a good point. I mean, I feel like I'm... Too close to it. I'm too close, but also I've only scraped... I feel like I'm dangerously close. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know? Yeah. I've also got... What's that thing with the graph where you have a little bit of knowledge is dangerous? I'm beyond that now. Wow. I'm on that downward slope. I don't know.

Yeah. There's so much in this. Matt, what are you hiding under that mullet? Is it gills, Matt? Yes. Under these big boots, I've got little... wings on my feet. That's what I thought. Yeah, but I mean, when I, when this topic got voted up, I'm like, what, what am I

going to talk about? What is this? How do you do this as a report? But as it turns out, you could, you could do a whole series on it. It's like, there's so much stuff in there. And it's, it is, it is, it is, amazing. Some people have just taken the ball and run with it from what sounds like was just a bit of a parable written by Plato. So, yeah. Sadly, that does sound like the most logical. Yeah, that seems like it was pretty... But it is also very possible that he based it on some...

Like, he got inspiration from somewhere, I guess. Yeah. I just don't, yeah, who knows? Obviously, I've got to take the right coloured pill. I mean, obviously, give Plato a bit of credit. He probably could have come up with it. Yeah? Yeah.

Apparently, he borrowed a lot from Egyptian, old Egyptian mythology and stuff as well. Cop that Plato. Cop that. Oh, the Plato. Plato boys are going to be in my replies now. He-he, you're wrong. Mesa, thanks so much for joining us. What a joy.

Always love being on the Do-Go-On, love listening to Do-Go-On, not this episode, I won't listen back to myself. Fair, that's fair. What a, wow. I hear you. Yeah. Not you, I hear you with me. Oh, yeah.

And I've got to edit this. It's going to be a nightmare. These are the kinds of things I don't realize I say. I'm... I just start of every sentence It takes 15 minutes for you to say a sentence Oh man, it's a nightmare So listeners, what's left in

That's the cleanest stuff That's me being erudite Always great to be part of blocktober Oh yeah I wish you the best of luck with the rest of blocktober Thank you. I hope people's bloody minds are blown by the remaining Blocktober topics

We certainly hope so An epic topic but there's still three to go Yeah. Yeah, the big three, you know, the podium. Mesa, I reckon if we had a big rock face that had the presidents of America sketch, you know, you'd be one of those four. I'd be one of the presidents of America. Yeah. Thanks, man.

That means a lot. Yeah. Yeah, you'd be the Lincoln. It was up to us. Big time. Yeah, I don't know if the three of us would make it. No, God, no. They do go on, what's it called?

What's it called? Joe Rogan? Joe Rogan. He'd be on there. Joe Rogan will be on it, yep Yeah, yeah, yeah What is that one? Mount Rushmore

Mount Rushmore He forgets every time Yeah But you're obsessed with it I love Mount Rushmore I love saying Things are the Mount Rushmore Of something

Yeah, that's fun Like I think if The Ninja Turtles Mount Rushmore I'd have Donatello Michaelangelo Go on Raphael Yes

And Bebop Nice What would be a A little twist there The old rule of four What would be a on your Mount Rushmore of Mount Rushmore's like rock faces.

Oh, I'd probably have Mount Rushmore. Yeah, no, it's good. Infinitely recursive Mount Rushmore. I like it. Yeah. Then I'd have that Mount Rushmore with the Mount Rushmore Oh yeah, yeah, cool, nice. And then I'd have that Mount Rushmore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I would have the Great Wall of China.

Yes. Great one. Great choice. Great rock face. That's yep. You know, you could interpret it that way. I don't see things in black and white like Eumaso Or is it a rock face Is it not a rock face? I think sometimes the truth exists between the two

Wow I've got a lot I'm gonna go away I've got a lot to think about Well if we want to hear more about Well more from EMA so every week You do a podcast about comic books And things like Jim the Submariner That's right

Things like that Called the weekly planet That's right What a great great show it is We have a good sign His name is not Jim There's no more Whatever I couldn't remember it

His friend's his secret identity is Jim Matt Come on. Okay. Yeah. But that comes out every week. That's right. Mr. Sunday movies.

So many great episodes to catch up on. We have a good old time. We're finally... Melbourne's not in a lockdown anymore so we can actually go to the cinema and see some movies. So that's going to be exciting. What's top of the list? I've got to see two Marvel movies. Got Shang Chi's coming out in the Eternals.

You see those. There's a James Bond movie that's been coming out for two or three years at this point. Isn't it interesting to get to see... You normally see advanced screenings. Yes. Before there's too much knowledge. of what it is. Yeah.

This time you're like, at least two of those have been canned pretty harshly. So you had your expectation set low before seeing. That would affect your viewing pleasure? Matt, Matt, I just love the cinema.

I just love, everything's an A plus for me. Popcorn, yeah. Chock tops. No, chalk tops and I have no, I have no taste. Wow. That's a COVID.

Yeah, it's probably COVID, actually. Anyway, thanks so much for joining us. What is all right? Thanks for you guys. You've got to go live your life. And we're about to do everyone's favorite section of the show. So,

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Now, on this section, people who sign up to the Sydney-Sharmberg level on any of those websites that I've mentioned before, they get to give us a fact, a quote, or a question. I don't read them out until I read them out. And I'm going to read four of them out right now. The first one comes from one, Ben Johnson, who I've met a few times all around the world. What a guy, Ben Johnson. And he also gets to give himself a title. And Ben's giving himself the title, Tom Cruise's unemployed stunt double.

Tom, just give him a go. Just give him a go for God's sake. You don't have to do everything. You're 60 years old. Dave really hates that Tom Cruise does his own stunts. And I think Ben's playing into that fact there, which is fun. So, Ben has written a fact. a fact, which is.

As well as being a well-known member of the scientific community, Stephen Hawking is also a thoughtful pop culture, is also known throughout pop culture, particularly within the sci-fi community. Hawking made cameos as himself in several popular shows, including several episodes of the Big Bang Theory and voicing multiple appearances in the Simpsons and Futurama. Possibly his favorite cameo was his first, when he played a holographic version of himself playing poker with Albert Einstein and Isaac Newton in an episode of Star Trek New Generation, or Next Generation. While making his cameo,

Hawking was given a tour of the set, during which he requested and was allowed to sit in the captain's chair of the USS Enterprise. Leonard Nimoy arranged for Hawking to make an appearance after learning. Hawking was a fan of the show at the release party of the home video version of Hawking's book, A Brief History of Time. An all-time classic book that is perfect for some kind of hour-long summary podcast. No, Ben's bringing that up because he gave that book to me once. Nice try, Ben.

He said, if you happen to know of one. Thanks, Ben. He gave that to me a few years ago when we first went to England. It's a very interesting book I just don't know if I'll be able to summarize A Brief History of Time How do you make that briefer? Yeah, right

Dave, that's a fun challenge For someone like you're reckon Yeah, it sounds like a real coward Yeah, I'm talking there Bit of a cop out Oh, it's not, I couldn't, no, I can't do it, coward Ben's giving you the book He's giving you the book

We have to do is open it Open it and open your mind and heart Start summarizing, you bloody coward All right You know what I'm like with peer pressure I always give in I think calling someone a coward is very funny Yeah

Coward Won't even do a podcast after About that specific book Yeah it's a ridiculous thing Anyway coward Thank you for that Ben The next one comes from Nathan Damon Who's given himself the title of Ideas Man

And he's asking a question Which is Wouldn't it be great If Restrictions allowed If the DoGo Honors Was done as a live stream Then we could see you guys get dressed up, walk the red carpet, and the joy of your faces, receive your well-earned

awards. You could get someone like Nick Mason, or Evan Munro Smith, the host. More of a suggestion than a question. But I'll give you my answer anyway. Yes, it would be great. Cheers, guys. Love you all and stay safe. Thanks, Nathan.

We're going to need a new topic. We've got fact, quote, question, brag or suggestion. Yeah. One question, brag or suggestion, that's great. I should make that change in the form, I feel. out. Yeah, suggestions box. I don't know if I should break it to Nathan or not about the... No, no, no, no, no, don't. Don't? I just, because sometimes I'm only wearing my tuxet on top half and I'm fully nude below. And I just don't know if that would work in a stream.

And I wouldn't want you to have to change that. It's a tradition. Yeah. And I wouldn't want you to have to put on pants. I wouldn't want that for you. I love you too much to make you put on pants. I appreciate that. You support me, which is maybe ironic because I don't have any pants doing that.

Okay, so thank you so much to you. Nathan, the next one comes from Julian Barnes, who is offering. Oh, firstly, Julian's got the title of short, fat and proud of that. I love a rhyming title. Yeah. And Julian is offering a quote, which is up, down, up. When I up, down, touch the ground, it puts me in the mood.

Up down, touch the ground, in the mood for food. I'm a stout round and have found, speaking poundage wise, I improve my appetite when I exercise. Oh yes, I'm rumbly in the tumbly. Time for something sweet. I'm short, fat and proud of that. And so with all my might, I up down, up down to my appetites a lot. While I up down, touch the ground, I think of things to chew.

With a hefty, happy appetite, I'm a hefty happy poo. That's Winnie the Pooh. Winnie the Pooh quote there. I love that. That was like beautiful, like spoken word. I loved it. I hope I did it justice. Oh, definitely.

I think you absolutely nailed it. I think in the original Winnie the Pooh wraps it. But hello everybody. My name is Winnie. Thank you so much for that. Julian. Love hearing a bit of poo work there. I know Jess is a big fan of Scar, so she would have enjoyed that too.

Love it. And finally, this week, Rachel Johnson has written in, aka Little Miss Twinkle Toes, and a little mistookle toes, okay, Rachel Johnson, has offered us a fact, which is, there is only one US state capital which does not have a McDonald's. Oh, I wonder if Dave will know this.

Would you have a guest, Dave? Alaskan capital. Or just give us the state. What's the state? I would say Alaska. It's not Alaska. It is your very favorite state. No, it is not Vermont, surely.

Do you know the capital of Vermont? Obviously, I'm just taking Rachel's word. Is it like Montpellier, something like that? It is Montpellier. Well done. I've never heard of Montpellier. But they don't have a McDonald's, actually, I've looked it up before because, you know, I love big Vermont fan, but I think there's only a population of like, you know,

10,000, 15,000, which is like so unimaginable for a capital. Yeah. But that's enough people for a maximum. Yeah, that's right, because there's definitely towns in Victoria, Australia, where we live, that have... Yeah, there'd be three McDonald's in a town that size. You'd have the good one and the shit one at least. And everyone would know which one you meant. Population, I looked it up here, seven and a half thousand.

Still, that's enough for a macas, surely. Yeah. But great fact. I don't doubt you, Rachel. Great fact. Thank you, Rachel. Fantastic fact. All right. The other thing we like to do, of course is thank a few of our other great supporters. Jess, you normally come up with a little bit of a game. So these supporters have been on the shout-out level, which I forget what it's called.

Maybe it's the Dreamboat Cooper level or above. And they get shouted out, Jess comes up with a game. Something to do with the episode normally. Yeah, I was thinking, you know how Atlantis like sunk to the bottom of the ocean? Oh, yeah. Yes.

I was thinking, where did their city disappear to? I love it. All right, well, if I can kick it off, I would love to firstly thank from Odents in Denmark, D-K, D-W. Donkey Kong. Oh, Donkey Kong. And you're either Donkey or Diddy or Denmark. I would love to thank Mikhail Hans Peterson.

You know what? I reckon it was a guy called Chris. Peterson in my high school who had the nickname Denmark. I think Peterson might be quite a big Danish name based on that small sample size. Or it's a relation. Oh, Mikkel, do you know, do you know Christopher? To your cousin? All right, where...

You'll wait for your answer. Where did Mikel's city slash island disappear to? Yeah, where did the city of Odense disappear to? Well, I mean, it's got to be down the back. of the couch. Yeah. Sure. It's always there, man.

Look for that. You can't quite reach it. You've got to get the cushions up. We're talking like the cosmic couch? Oh yeah. There's some big couch and it's, wow. Yeah, the cosmic couch. I love it.

Thank you, Mikel. Hopefully life down the back of that big old cosmic couch is fine. Hopefully you've got, you had enough time to create a dome. Yeah. To protect you from the horrors of the back of the cosmic couch. It's probably a bit dark. Coins and keys. I'd also love to think from San Antonio in Texas in the United States,

David Wilmore. Where did San Antonio? They've got the Spurs, that's their basketball team. Maybe they fell down the back of a cowboy boot. Yes. The back of a cowboy boot, as opposed to the front of a cowboy boot. The cosmic cowboy boot? The Cosmic cowboy boot?

Obviously. everyone at one time or another has fallen down the old cosmic cowboy boot and uh yeah i think they'll be pretty happy there the san antonio peoples down the down the cowboy boot um if i know anything about san antonio it is that their buswell team is called the spurs so um you know a small sample size of knowledge but i know it's it's one of the big cities of texas texas got quite a few it's one of the big boys there big boys Yeah. Thank you very much, David, for all your support. Hopefully you're wearing a 10-gallon hat right now. That would make me happy.

I would assume so, yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much to Dave. Finally from me, I'd love to thank a bit closer to home from Ballarat in Victoria, Australia. Justin Rayburn. Now Ballarat's got a couple of Maccas. Definitely big enough for Macas, right? They got a couple. Home of Pluggar as well, Tony Plugger Lockett's from Ballarat.

And also Danny Spocker. My personal favourite maker is the Bakery Hill one. And they, Ballarat has disappeared into Lake Wendery. Oh. Yeah, the lake within Ballarat has sucked everything else into it. Oh, it sounds like a flood. It's sort of like I did a little treehouse of horror marathon. on this week because it was Halloween last week.

Yeah. And yeah, in the first one, season two, the house, the haunted house sort of does that. It sucks itself into its own vortex or basically it destroys itself rather than living with the Simpsons. It's pretty fun. That's pretty much what Ballarat has done. Well, like Wendery has done. Decided it did not want to live with the Simpsons.

Yeah, just with. Or the Ray Burns in this case, maybe. No, I've heard the Rayburns are great people. Beautiful people, a wonderful family. Yeah, it definitely sucked them in as well. It wanted them to remain. Loves the Ray Burns, but I love them. Would you like to thank a few of our great supporters, Boppa?

I would love to. I would love to thank from Manchester, I'm guessing, in Great Britain, Matt King. Matt King, well, obviously Matt King. what was Matt's town? Burnage in Manchester. Burnage, Manchester has done quite the opposite of Atlantis and it's floated up into the sky. Ooh, so not quite space, just hovering in the sky.

Hovering in the sky, bunks the clouds. So of Fifee faux-fum levels. Oh, yep, okay, that's nice. That's nice. Catch a beanstalk up there. Yeah. Hey, you know, we're talking about 10-gallon hats. I recently learnt from Bill Bryson that,

they're obviously not 10 gallons big, which is what I always assumed. It was just like the gallon was a measurement. But apparently it's gallons was something to do, a Spanish word for the people who wore those kind of hats or something. There you go. Wait, hang on, let me Google it. All right.

The more you know from Bill. He knows everything that guy. This is from history.com. It says most experts argue that the name 10, 10 gallon hat is actually an import from south of the border. Cattle drivers and ranches in Texas and the southwest often cross paths with Mexican Vakeros who sported braided hatbands called gallons in Spanish on their sombreros. Oh, so it's not the people, it's the braided headbands, hatbands?

That's interesting. I don't know if I fully understand it, but yeah, it's interesting that it's not, that it's just a word that sounds like another word. Is that interesting? That's wordplay, baby. Oh, yeah. Is that a fun? I don't know anymore. Thank you very much to Matt.

I would also love to thank from Carinda in Queensland, Australia, Bruce Kelso. Bruce. Hi, I'm Bruce Kelso from Carinda, Queensland. How do you bloody do? Bloody good to me. You put her there. Put her bloody there. Put it bloody there.

If you don't mind. I call that a handshow, that's a bloody wet fish, mate. Eye contact. Eye contact, please. Nice firm handshake. I'm Bruce. I'm Bruce Kelso. Where's that?

Where's that? Ended up. Dave? What do you reckon it's been repossessed? The bank has foreclosed it, sucked it all into a bank vault, and unless they make the appropriate payments, they are not getting out.

What sort of payments are talking? What's the amount? It's in the hundreds of dollars. Hundreds of dollars Yeah, can you believe that Oh my God, I can't I can't believe that Now there's a tent standoff

There's a court case This thing could go on for years So honestly But Bruce has he set up I'm just gonna have a word with him He said I'll work as an intermediary year Yeah And he went up to the bank

Boobie Whilst drinking a Coke Boobie Come man It works every time Yeah, it works every time He's a master negotiation Oh, Bruce.

Good on your Bruce. Once he shakes your hand and crushes it. You melt my butter. You do whatever he asks. Yeah. How do you and bloody do? Eddie and a bloody dude. Bruce, bloody Kelsoe.

I think his middle name's bloody. Thank you so much, Bruce. BBK. BBK. I would also love to thank from San Jose in California, IA. Oh, do you know the way to San Jose is a song, I think. I don't. I think you go to America first.

Yeah, that's probably a start. Jump on a plane. Yeah. Someone's asking, do you know the way to Santa? Yeah. Jump on a plane to America, specifically California if you can. Yeah. And then just follow the sounds. Yeah, I guess like ask a local.

Yeah. Probably a great place to start because I don't know. I'm Australian and you're asking me here in Melbourne, Australia. So I don't know. Via song on the radio. I don't even know how to get onto you. Yeah. Can you even hear you?

hear me? But from San Jose, California, I would love to thank Mark, which is written as Mark is most definitely in water. Don't let him tell you otherwise. Oh, well, that feels very appropriate for this episode. Mark, are you in a darn? Is he in Atlantis?

Mark is most definitely in water. Don't let him tell you otherwise. It's going to be confusing on the Christmas card, isn't it? What's happened there? With the Christmas cards, by the way, Jess, do we have a deadline for when people are needed to? The fifth. The fifth.

Okay. So that's like tomorrow or something. It's this Friday, people. Two days. Two days from when this episode comes out. If you're keen to get on, sign up at the shoutout level or above, and you will get a Christmas card this year. Yeah, we'll send that to you anywhere in the world. As long as you give us your address.

Some people forget that. Thank you, Mark. All right, Dave, do you want to bring it home? Well, where's Mark? Well, I just assumed it in Atlantis, but it has to be somewhere else. Yeah. But he's telling us in water, so that's a big clue. He's not in Lake Wendaree, because that's already chock full of Ballarat.

Yeah. And, yeah, the bottom of the sea, the Atlantic Ocean. Maybe he's in a different ocean. Pacific? Pacific? He could be in the Pacific Ocean. Obviously, statistically, yes. Yes. I think that's also where Mu might be. So he might be down there with Mu.

Oh, wow. Mew and San Jose on the bottom of the... But what is the... what's the Californian coast? What sea is that or what ocean is that, Dave? Well, that's the Pacific Ocean. Well, that works out perfectly well. Yes, Pop, you nailed that. Nailed it. I'm the best. I knew it, obviously. And that's why the East Coast is the Atlantic.

Yes. Yes. Which I also knew it. See, we're really good at geology. Hailing it. All right, on your mark, stay wet. All right. Now, coming up now from me,

I'd love to thank from Carinda in, sorry, this is appropriate, Matt. Now coming up from me, I would love to thank from Feridon Park in South Australia. Sounds beautiful. And that is Stephanie Forren, or Stephanie Ferreira.

Foreign. Stephanie Foreign. Ferreiden Park. I mean, that's got a real wetness to it as well. Don't pay the fairy den. That's a song that I'm sure I brought up to you guys before. It's the other hit by the Lady and Red guy. Oh, Chris DeBerg.

Chris DeBerg. Well, actually, you know what's amazing. Stephanie Foreign and Ferreton Park has actually been transported. to Chris DeBerg's estate. Oh my God. Which is very big. All of Ferridon. That's how big his estate is.

That lady in red track really. And to the lesser extent, the ferryman song has really paid out big. Chris DeBerg. Invested in land. Chris DeBerg. What a name. What a name. That's a good name.

Chris DeBerg. That's very good. Which is a much better name than the lady in red guy, which he's also known as. Anya DeBerg, I mean, Stephanie Farran. Oh, I'd love to also thank from Oxford in Great Britain, Nick Fidion. Nick Fidion has been, the town of Oxford has actually been, it's lost in Hobbiton. Oh, whoa. So we've got Fidion and Hobarton.

Yeah. Nick Fidion sounds like he would just be able to slip right into Hobbiton. No one's going to looking. doing double takes when he introduced and wait what Nick Fidian that's not a very Hobbity kind of name do they have hobbity names yeah

Hippity Hobbiti and yes that's those guys you know hibbitty hobbity names Jono Nick Nick Nick Mary Nick Fidian yeah very hobbity a beautiful name too

I should say Nick that's what I mean by hobbity yeah we're not saying anything you don't say you got weird hairy feet. I'm not saying that. We're saying you fit in with the caring community spirit of Hobbiton. Yeah.

Love it. It's a good thing. And my act. Which is another part of that film series, I believe. That's the second episode, second reference on this episode to that. There you go. You have actually gotten better at the impression somehow.

And I don't think you've watched the movie to do so. You've just gotten better. Sometimes people say, say I look like that guy. I can never remember his name as jiblets or whatever. And he... And my axe. Very funny character.

Very funny stuff. I assume. I assume he's the one you laugh. Yeah, he's the comedic relief. Yeah. So thanks, Nick Fiddy. And finally, from Huntsville, Alabama. A place where I'm sure they've got a McDonald's.

I'd love to thank Brady McDonough. That's why I'm sure there's a McDonald's. We got a McDonough Hugh. I think you're adding a hue there. I think it's just McDonough. Oh, McDonough, you? Oh, is that how you pronounce that? No, I've got no idea.

Jess, we need a casting vote. Can you see? Now I'm too, I'm in my head about it. Isn't that the same name as the big brother guy who went on to neighbors? That was Blair. That was Blair. McDonough? McDonald, I think.

Oh, I don't know what. Oh, my God, I'm Googling. You are absolutely right, Matt. You are absolutely right. It is Blair McDonough, you or McDonough. Blair, McDonough. Yeah, we get, I mean, some of these British and Scottish names, you know, they stuff us up sometimes.

Hertfordshire. Doesn't look like that. I don't know how to spell it. Don't ask me. I don't know why it came to my mind. But Brady from Alabama, I've said to name a few ways there. Hopefully we got it some way. But Brady, where is Huntsville, Alabama gone?

Well, I mean, isn't Alabama already in the deep south? Yeah, so it's going to go north from there. I think it's going to have to go north. The North Pole? North Pole, is what I'm thinking, yes. Whoa. Can't get much more north than that. Really can't.

You try to go north from there, and it's just like, no. Oh, hang on. I'm going south. Thank you so much, Brady. Nick, Stephanie, Mark, Bruce, Bruce, Matt, Justin, David and McKell. The last thing we're going to do is welcome some people into the Triptitch Club. Jess, can you explain briefly? I'm never that good at explaining what it is.

What is the Triptitch Club? Triptich Club is for people who have supported DoGo on for three consecutive years. and it is an exclusive but not in a dickish way club where our supporters can come, they can hang out it's got everything you need. I haven't mentioned them for a while there's little sleeping pods out the back if you need a little nap.

We've got a bar. We've got a full kitchen. We've got a dance floor. Dave books a band every week. And essentially how it happens is Matt is standing at the door. He's lifting up the velvet rope. He's checking off the list. He lets you in.

I make you a drink. Dave arranges the band and then we just, we just celebrate you. Yeah, it's like a, it's a club slash Hall of Fame slash Hangout Zone. Exactly right, yeah. That's right. So Jess, you normally have a cocktail

that has something to do with the topic we just discussed. Yeah, well, you remember frog in a pond? Yes. So it would be like a chocolate frog inside a cup of jelly. This is, at least. Atlantis in the ocean. And it is a fish bowl. And I've put little mini models of Atlantis made out of fruit at the bottom of the fish bowl.

And then it's got like a jelly shot. It's like alcoholic jelly on top. And you can have one of these Atlantis in the ocean for just the low, low price of 69.95. Wow. That's a nice price. We've never charged for a cocktail before But that's how expensive the overheads I must stress they are quite large fish bowls

I am running at a loss So I'm going to need people to cover some of that cost And Dave who's the band you've booked I've actually booked a mini festival If you're okay with it Yeah We're going to be opening with lower than Atlantis An English rock band

From actually you wouldn't believe it From Hertfordshire Whoa Why did that come to mind before? Hartfordshire, I believe they wanted me to say. Oh, right. That's why. I said that wrong.

Lower than Atlantis are opening for visions of Atlantis, but the headline act is simply Atlantis. Ah. A 70s band. I really wish you would have run this festival idea past me before I spent so much money on fish bowls. Because I don't know how we're going to keep things going. Uh-oh.

How quick are you at turning over these cocktails, Jess? I can see a big line banking up already. I have pre-made a lot of them because obviously jelly has to set. You're not just drinking the jelly juice, are yeah? So I have pre-made a lot of them. They are limited. But I've made one for everyone. So if there's people who don't want one, you don't like jelly,

then you can go back for seconds. But let's just go for like one at a time and then assess. Okay. All right. So I'm going to now welcome in four names this week. I'm going to shout them out. I'm going to welcome you in, and Dave's going to hype you up. You're going to come into this club feeling good.

Jess will then give Dave a bit of positive feedback because Dave needs it. He runs on positive feedback. Thank you. Everyone ready? Here we go. I think he'll recognize his first name, Dave, from Melbourne in Australia. It's Tom Mitchell. Who are also known as the lead singer of Wheatheon.

Tom Mitchell, you make me feel Tom Richel having you in my life. Oh, Rich with friendship. Yeah, yeah. Hell yeah. Also shout out to Wheat Hornet. Who cares, no one cares no more. That was one of our songs. Thank you, Tom.

Who cares, no one cares no more? Yeah. That's a long name. Love it. I love that. Love that, Dave. Look at this face. Love that.

Oh, love it. Maybe one day Weidhunter can play in the Triptitch Club. We'll find out. Whoa. From Bryants then in Great Britain. It's Jack Evans. Oh, I'm not in Jack Evans. I'm in Jack Heaven.

Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Speaking of not being able to pronounce British place names, I'm confident I haven't got that one, right? Prince. I reckon I can do this one, though. From London in Great Britain, it's Patrick Weller. Oh, more like Patrick Heller.

Heller, hell yeah. Hell yeah, Patrick. And you don't live in London, you live in Funden. Ooh! And finally, from, I believe, this is the man who edited our travel tour video. Yes. I don't think I haven't realize you're a patron, you goddamn legend, from Cinnamon Son, New Jersey in the United States.

It's John Machicon. Oh, John Matchicon. More like John Macha Bobong. Oh, holdback. It's a callback. Hell yeah. From four years ago. Yeah, that's one for the year.

The sweetest callback. The long term. Still funny. Could be John MacaCon. We've never spoken. in I've only ever read his name. Yeah. Thank you so much, John, you bloody legend.

John, Patrick, Jack and Tom. Jeez. That's a real, real wildly diverse list of names there. Thank you so much all for your support and welcome in to the Triptage Club. And that's all we really need to do. Jess, anything to say before we go? I just want to say that I love you and, you know, I hope you're doing well. and call me.

Sorry, anything to the listeners. That was all to them. Oh, okay. To you, Matt, I want to say, I love you. I hope you're doing well. And hey, call me. Okay. I'll get on the blower.

I know we're talking right now. Let's keep this party going. Post-bop, let's chat. Can I get your digits? No. Just mash your hand into the phone. Eventually, statistically, if you try that for long enough, you're going to get me. Okay.

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