Two In The Think Tank - 321 - The Kangaroo Kicker

Episode Date: December 15, 2021

This is the story of an Australian who went to the US and gained fame as (quote) “the greatest kicker who ever wore a shoe in America”, before mysteriously disappearing. This is the story of Pat O’Dea, The Kangaroo Kicker.Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: dogoonpod.com or patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Stream our 300th episode with extra quiz (and 16 other episodes with bonus content): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.afl.com.au/news/368629/he-took-american-football-by-storm-then-disappeared-the-kangaroo-kickerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_O%27Deahttps://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/s/australian-academy-prepares-punters-us-college-football-155738233--nfl.htmlhttps://footballfoundation.org/hof_search.aspx?hof=2107https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/odea-patrick-john-pat-11285https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/68131203 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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My name is Dave Warnke and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hello Dave, hello Matt. Hello Dave, hello Jess. What a pleasure to be here inside the podcast. Yeah. And inside your ears listeners. Yeah. And we can't get out. I'm in your phone.

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And I know what you're Googling. And it is yuck. It is hard to make it up to people I've wronged from inside your phone. Yeah, it's not the best position to be in, in terms of making it up to people I've wronged, of which there are many. Yeah, it only happens occasionally. which there are many. Yeah. It only happens. Occasionally, you'll leave me at a place of a person I've wronged.

Yeah. And I vibrate. And I get... Positive vibes. And they don't pick up and talk to me. But when you come back to the table, they're like, oh, someone's popular. And it's, no, they're not popular. You're yelling that out. Why is your phone accusing you of not being popular this is the phone

of a loser help me i'm trapped i say when they say what a hilarious ringtone this is my curse are you calling the listeners losers only the one Whose phone I'm stuck in Oh okay So whoever's listening right now Yes Well you're the only one listening That's sad for you and us Yeah when there's more people

Doing the podcast And listening to it There's a ratio there If we had three listeners We'd be alright We'd have one each Yeah mine's Jeremy Four

Now we're cooking yeah but two or one oh boy it's not good for us we've really got to push push those socials yeah retweet tell a friend three retweets wow they all liked it that's that is good ratio uh but uh dave i know you are better than anyone to explain how this podcast works Well, because I think probably I hold the record for explaining it more than anyone else But also being the worst at explaining it I disagree Someone who has just been listening back from the start said you were pretty good at explaining it early Oh, I lost my way

At some point you lost your way You've gotten shitter Well, let me take you back to the start and tell you What we do here is we take it in terms to report on a topic often suggested to us by a listener. Anyone can suggest a topic and we usually give them a shout out. One of us takes that topic, goes away, does a bit of research, brings it back and then starts the report with a question because the other two have no idea what the topic is going to be. Matt, you're in the big boy chair. I am.

And I'm going to ask a question. Here it is which two sports did darren bennett matt mcbrier sav rocker and ben graham play they all famously played two different sports that are the highest or at a high level definitely the only name i really recognize and i think that he's a big booter of the AFL. Yes. The Aussie rules. So what else? And then maybe was he the one that they got over and said, hey, why don't you boot this NFL ball? That is correct. They all played Australian and American football.

Who are the other three names? So it was Darren Bennett. He's probably the most successful to cross over. He's in like the Chargers Hall of Fame now. He also played 100 games in Australia in the AFL. Mack McBride didn't play in the AFL but went over and did really well for the Dallas Cowboys and a couple of other teams. Savroka, like you said, you've heard of him.

He's famous over here. But after his career in the AFL, he went over and played a few years in the NFL with some success, as did Ben Graham. Ben Graham went over and played a few years in the nfl with some success as did ben graham ben graham went over when he was 32 he basically played a whole career in the afl and went over and did really well in the nfl it's a hard game to learn late but yeah punters just have to kick it far and sort of accurate that's their whole job how hard can it be easy i could do it my sleep get me in there where you want this ball? Can you tell me where you want it? Over there?

Done. How far? How far? Yeah, all right. What's my margin of error? None. All right. Easy.

Just like to know. Just like to know so I can be better than the margin of error. No need. If there was like a 5% margin, I'd do it. I'd stuff out one in 20 times. But I could do it right every time if I wanted. Yeah, but I'm just wanting to seem more human. Yeah.

You know? So people don't say, I was photoshopped. Yeah. Was that a robot? You got some sort of kicking machine over there? No, no. I'm just a very good human. I've got a weird energy straight off the bat today, but I'm going to just ride it.

Well, this week's episode isn't about any of those people okay right but it's about the first man who did both uh played at the highest level football in australia and then in america the story about an australian who went to the u.s and gained famed as quote the greatest kicker who ever wore a shoe in america okay what about the shoeless kickers yeah well that's a different like a bruce lee or something like kicking the shit out of someone's barefoot yeah don't try and compare the two apples and oranges mate uh before he mysteriously disappeared this is the story of pat o'd, the kangaroo kicker. Does that mean he played for the kangaroos or did he kick kangaroos? That was his nickname in America. Yeah, that sounds about right.

This guy kicks kangaroos. Australia, what do we know about him? Kangaroos, boomerangs, Crocodile Dundee. G'day, mate. That would have been well ahead of his time because he was over there in the late 1800s. What? 1800s? That's right. I forgety's that old cobra what do you think of that nickname the kangaroo kicker

sounds like a serial killer yeah sounds like he is kicking people to death he is resting on his um very strong tail yeah and kicking with both feet using his talons to rip out your gullet yeah whatever and he is kicking you off a cliff oh yeah is that what they do with their talons kangaroos are brutal i know even at the zoo like you can walk through and you can like get quite close to them and you see a lot of tourists doing that because kangaroos like amazing but i'm always like walking quite quickly through that bit i'm like don't fuck me up. I'm like, don't fuck me up. Don't fuck me up. Don't fuck me up, please. I think those places are normally pretty good at keeping the full badass kangaroo, like the head guy or whatever.

Yeah. But do you ever know for sure? What are they called? The Don. Are they the Don? It's not the Don. What's the name? Are they the bull?

No. No, I don't know. But like the big red kangaroos. Yeah, the alpha dog. Yeah. Those ones that literally look like a cartoon muscle kangaroo Yeah those ones that don't fuck with those What are they?

They've been working out on steroids It's amazing They've got those like little cute little like blue flies Or like grey The little grey ones who are just like I'm just here eating some leaves And you're like oh so cute But I'm still like I don't want to fuck with you

Yeah Please I'm just going through It's the only way To get through To other exhibits I'm just trying to get Through the zoo please I don't know why They make us walk through here

Why do they make me do this This should be optional Yeah when they're standing With their pecs Oh my god And their biceps Are almost as big as mine That's how big they are

They're jacked Almost as big as I think you're being A bit generous there Yeah look I didn't want to Embarrass them Yeah It's cute Almost as big as mine. That's how big they are. They're jacked. Almost as big as mine. I think you're being a bit generous there to the kangaroos. Yeah, look, I didn't want to embarrass them. Yeah. It's cute.

If they hit the gym a little more, I'm okay. But, you know. But let's be honest. Kangaroo kicker. What do you think of that, Dave? I love it. Yeah, I thought you would. You love alliteration?

Absolutely. The KK, kangaroo kicker. Kangaroo kicker is very good. Yeah. It's not cobra. I wouldn't. I'm finally on board with cobra, by the way. Thank you.

I think it suits me. I'm thinking of it as an ironic nickname. No irony there. No irony at all. I think if you'd said, like, what is a kangaroo kicker known for, football would have been pretty low in my list. I would have had to be really thinking, like, what do you kick? What do you kick? Yeah. I would have had to be really thinking like, what do you kick? What do you kick?

Yeah, I would have been getting RSPCA involved. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would have been like, okay, serial killer because they always start with torturing animals. Yeah. It would have taken me a while to get to football. So this is exciting. All right.

Well, let me tell you about him. His name, Patrick John O'Day. We've got another John. We were doing Johns in block but yes patrick john o'day was born march 16th 1872 in the victorian country town of kilmore i've been there i've been there before i looked it up a bit i got sidetracked a bit actually i see you always see this turn off to kilmore going down the hume yeah uh the the road from mel to Sydney. And, yeah, but I didn't know much about it. I looked it up and apparently it's not a big population,

8,000 or something. Yeah, right. But I was looking into it, seeing if there are any other notable people who came from there. Apparently Victoria's second premier, John O'Shaughnessy, was from there. Oh, cool. And I found this great resource, which I guess is sort of like a political compendium or something.

It's called wikipedia.org. Oh, yeah. And according to that website, it says the, I mean, this is totally off topic already, but the Irish-born Catholic O'Shaughnessy was the bane of the Protestant establishment in Melbourne and the ensuing sectarianism also

affected those who lived in Kilmore. O'Shaughnessy's supporters were referred to as O'Rowdies and O'Shaughnessy as the Rowdy King because he was Irish. O'Rowdies. Yeah. And they'd be depicted in like political cartoons as just like drunk

Irishmen and a rabble because he was a Catholic guy. Right, but he's obviously popular enough to be voted in as premier. Well, I mean, this was before, apparently before there was like a party system in Victoria. So it was sort of, you'd get, he was popular enough in his electorate to make it. He actually, in this weird quirk, was elected in Kilmore and in Melbourne. Ah. And then he went, I'll represent Kilmore. And then Melbourne, his seat had to have a by-election.

That's very weird. Pretty haphazard system early on. Yeah. But then I guess he was a good enough politician to get enough support to become Premier. But it was really unstable in the early days. to get enough support to become premier but it was really unstable in the early days um and i think in part because of the irish catholic versus english protestant tensions um and holding the premier's office became a real tug of war the first premier was english-born william clark haynes in 1855 he held the office for a year and a bit. Then O'Shaughnessy took over for 50 days before Haynes wrestled back control for 316 days

before O'Shaughnessy came back for another year and a half. This is literally wrestling him back. Yes. Then a couple of other guys came in between for about a year and a half. And then O'Shaughnessy had his third and final stint for a year and 226 days. Amazing.

That's interesting. I went down that little rabbit hole there. I'm like, that's strange. I'd never heard of our first or second premiere. No. Yeah, I didn't know. Which seems funny, especially because it was such a hectic kickoff to it all. Anyway, so.

Pardon the pun. So O'Day was born in Kilmore. He was the seventh child in a family of 11. Too many. Have you got any questions in relation to that? I guess I just want to know, like, do they know what was causing it? I think back then they did not have the technology. They're like, another one?

What's going on here? What's happening? There's something wrong with this woman. Keep growing these humans inside of me. Cursed. Yeah. His parents were Patrick Flannery O'Day, which has got to be one of the more Irish names out there.

Beautiful. He was a squatter from Ireland, and he worked at a flour mill. And Johanna, or Johanna, Nii Crosley, who was Victorian-born. So in 1880, the family moved to Melbourne after Pat's dad died at the age of 49. So he started going to school in the suburbs of Melbourne and was playing Aussie rules football while I was there. In those early days at home,

he'd kick around a homemade football his brother Andy made, which was constructed from leather and a bull's bladder, which I think is how a lot of old footies started out just like so yeah sheep's bladder or bull's bladder tied blow it up tie it off gross have a bloody kick but you know it was like they there was no waste back then yeah at the end of your kick the kick you've got a snack yeah you know bull's bladder what do they do with the bladders now? They're just snacking on them straight away. Come on, you want to kick around your bladder first.

Soften it up a bit. Earn your bloody lunch. You've got to earn your bladder. I've always said that. Earn your bladder. Earn your bladder. Kids these days never earning their bladders. But of course, Matt, you very early on in this podcast

did a history of how Aussie rules football came about. So, people are more interested in finding out about that. That's a very early episode. Yeah, I think it was my first ever report, maybe episode two. Amazing. So, yeah, if you want to get the story which would have been happening sort of alongside this story, definitely check that out. It's fascinating because I think we'll hear about it a bit later, but the American game at this point was in pretty early stages and you could hardly recognise it from what it's become.

Yeah, right. Which would be the same for Australian football. They all kind of, I think, it was a long time ago, but episode two talked about how they all vaguely came from a similar sport. Maybe it was in rugby college in england or something i can't remember what i talked about but marngrook footy which i think is it's better known now maybe than even six years ago whenever i was talking about then is is also thought to be possibly

it's an indigenous sport which aussie rules football is is quite similar to and they think that uh its roots come from there as well. You don't say. Did I mention that at the time? No, no, no, no. You're like, oh, yeah, I remember episode two. No, God, no, I don't remember five minutes ago. Kangaroo kicker, I think, is what we're talking about.

So, anyway, so he's kicking around this homemade bull's bladder footy. His brother Andy later claimed that an eight-year-old Pat was able to kick the ball 50 yards or about 45 metres. Easy. And when he was 10, he could kick it 60 yards or 55 metres. Okay, yawn. Oh, sorry, yeah, 10-year-old. I guess that's impressive.

Right, because right now, what's considered a big kick on the AFL field? There'd be AFL players who couldn't kick it that long At 55 metres Well they should be fired I agree This 10 year old can do it Get me in there This 10 year old in the 1800s could do it

Can kick a ball Yeah Apparently the first time that O'Day came to the public's attention Was on January the 3rd, 1888, when he risked his life to try and save a drowning woman. It was the middle of summer and he was at Morty Alec Beach when he saw that his friend's mum was struggling in the bay. He was 15 years of age.

He swam out, brought her back to shore. He didn't kick her back in. He kicked her back in. 55 metres. No, no worries, lady. I'm not swimming that But I can tell you What I can do

Get on my boot He jumped up On a boy Kicked him back She's like Can't we just have a rest On this boy No

No No O'Day received A bronze medal For bravery From the Royal Humane Society A bronze medal?

What, there was a silver and a gold that day, wasn't there? Sorry, also, this guy and this lady saved people, but better. Yeah. This lady actually saved three people at once. In world record time. Yeah. Sorry about that. You set an Australian record.

And that woman was Dawn Fraser. Well, she's really old. She's very old, but an amazing swimmer. The Melbourne was Dawn Fraser. She's really old. She's very old, but an amazing swimmer. O'Day was a star junior footballer, and his long kicking as well as his goal kicking were prominent features of his game. At the age of 20, he was recruited by the Melbourne Football Club, who were then playing in the VFA, the Victorian Football Association.

It's amazing that it took him to be 20 when at half that age he could kick better than probably all the other players. They wanted you to have a bit more life experience back then. That's right. Go on a gap year, mate, then come back. We'll talk about a contract. You've got a bit of growth to do emotionally. Let me play.

Oh, please. I can kick it. We see you've got potential mate But we want you to live on Yeah come on mate Yeah there's like An old school Rollercoaster thing

Gotta be this high mate Sorry You've gotta be emotionally This mature You gotta go see the world You know Go do Bali Do Thailand

You've been to Kilmore You've been to Melbourne But You know Have you been to The Sunshine Coast All the best Have you been to The Sunshine Coast All the best players Have been to the Sunshine Coast

Yeah You've got to check out The Sunny Coast It's gorgeous The beaches You can save three people In a day Man you might get a gold

Then talk to us Yeah That's right Bronze We don't see bronze around here No Fuck with bronze You would be familiar

With the Melbourne Football Club The oldest football club In Australia They're also the 11th oldest football club In the world And the world's oldest Now professional football club

Of any code apparently Wow Isn't that interesting Wow so the other 10 Just have faded away Well no they're all Amateur clubs I think

Yeah Amateur Doing it for the love Yuck Melbourne's also The reigning premiers in the afl having broken a 57 year premiership drought this year uh leaving the saints with the longest current drought having not won a premiership since their inaugural 1966 premiership but i believe i believe too we will i reckon i reckon it's just around the corner. There are AFLW players from Melbourne who live in this very building.

Really? Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. They're also, I mean, they're one of the inaugural AFLW teams as well. Wow. Yeah. Do you hear them kicking?

Yeah, I hear them kicking all night long. And I say, keep at it, girls. Sounds great What kind of bladders are they kicking? Yeah, and they say, can you shut up and keep your dog We're trying to kick here Can you stop stomping around because you're playing with your dog? No

They're like, honestly, if you keep playing around with that dog I see a little football inside of it A little dog bladder That's about right, yeah They're going to kick my dog And rightly so you gotta do what you gotta do to be the number one you kick my dog no good uh so anyway o'day played for mel when he played well back then they were known as the red legs which i love

right because of the red socks yeah the demons now but they used to be known as the red legs. Red socks. Yeah, they're demons now, but they used to be known as the red legs. Red legs. Bit of fun. Okay. Writing for the Australian Dictionary of Biography, James Griffin writes, He was described by the Australasian as a fleet wingman. His high marking and prodigious drop kicks, often accurate from any angle, made him one of the cracks of the competition. I didn't understand a word of that. Wow.

As in like, this is great crack? That kind of Irish expression? No, just like, you know, like crack squad. One of the best, I guess. This is old-timey language. Start that again. He's a fleet. He's a fleet wingman.

So, a wingman, they sit on the outside of the centre. Yeah, on the wings. Okay. On the fleet. Oh, sorry. He was a high marker. Yes. Take big high marks

A specky You do a specky You do a specky That means catching the ball Catching the ball On the full That's right sorry And that way you get to have a kick

Yes Sometimes you like You run up behind somebody else Who's just standing around Trying to also mark the ball And you run up And you jump on their back And then you mark it

And they're like Come on I was trying to mark that one I was in the right spot. And then the commentator goes, that's got to be the mark of the year. And the guy down below is like, I put myself in the right position. I had my hands ready in the marking position that mum taught me. Sometimes you get famous for being that person, though.

I know Tizm wrote a song. One of the famous Big Speckies ever was Alex Jezolenko. Yeah. A commentator said. Jezolenko, you beauty. Exactly. In the 1970 Grand Final, I think it was. Is that 1970?

And then so the guy he jumped on was Collingwood's Graham Jerker Jenkins. Oof. And Tizom wrote a song called The Back on Which Jezzer Jumped. That's very good. It was all about Jerker Jenkins. That's crazy that that was in the 70s and it is still- Still in the vernacular or whatever. As somebody who was born in 1990,

who has never paid that much attention to footy, for that to just be in my brain. Yeah, that is wild, isn't it? That's weird, isn't it? That's good commentary. And I was just yelling Jezzalenko and then you sort of nodded like, and the other bit. I was like, oh, yes, of course. You beauty.

You beauty. But in fairness to Jezolenko, it is pretty easy to jump on someone's back when they are bent over jerking it. Which I imagine is why he got that nickname. And honestly, like, give the man some privacy. Come on, mate. Obviously, it's not the best spot to be jerking it. Yeah, on the MCG on Grand Final Day But you know emotions run high

Exactly you need to relax You gotta get that energy out somehow Do you think of horniness as an emotion? Is it not? The number one emotion Is it not an emotion? What is horniness if not an emotion? You would know this Matt

Is there as a player Do they feel Is there a sense of shame If someone speckies on top of you? Is it a bit like, oh no, let them jump on me I think it's just bad luck Because you're putting yourself in a In a spot there Which is actually a pretty brave thing

You're probably backing into a pack Yeah So he's like, I'm actually the bravest guy out there They do end up copying but i imagine from you know you see the mark of the year they'll be joking you see like commentators now who had speckies taken over them in their playing days they'll those clips will get played as you know okay you're a stepladder weren't you that's how can you avoid it no i know it's behind you and you're just doing your job of standing there trying to get the ball.

Yeah. And somebody jumps all over you and you're the fool? Yeah. How ridiculous. Very silly. Fragile masculinity at it again. You don't get that in the AFLW. They say, oh, do you want to piggyback?

Jump on, my friend. Here you go. Do you want to get it? Your turn. Very supportive competition. I'll give you a boost. It's a game of piggybacks. Women. W they say oh do you want to piggyback jump on my friend here you go do you want to get it your turn very supportive competition it's a game of piggybacks women I don't think it's quite gets to quite that level but they off the field I don't think they're ever like sucked in yeah there was a post recently of um I think one of the clubs was the Eagles West Coast lent their training equipment to some Crows players who were stuck because of quarantine.

Oh, nice. So they, like, delivered gym equipment to their accommodation, like a different club. Stop it. It does feel like a whole different level of community in the AFLW. Right, but hiding inside that gym equipment was an army. Yeah. They popped out and killed them in their sleep.

It was a Trojan horse. It was a Trojan treadmill. Yeah. Okay, so yeah. So O'Day, one of the cracks of the competition. Yes, yeah. Which I believe to be a positive. Sentence we all understood.

Like reading it back, it is, it's like, there's a lot of lingo in there. Yeah. And some of it outdated. I did our listeners a big favour in asking follow-up questions. You did, thank you so much for that. Thank you. Going on a tangent.

I pretended I knew. Just nodded. You did. Thank you so much for that. Thank you. Thank you. On a tangent. I pretended I knew. Just nodded. Great crack. See, that's fragile masculinity again. I felt like I'd been marked on by words. Words takes a screamer. Words is the only thing that would even look at you and think it could handle me specking off the back of your...

You would be dead. If someone tried to specky off you, that you'd be dead. Has anyone ever been specky to death? I'm picturing like a Looney Tunes. You're like the, you know, they've become the human accordion. Walking off. Oh, no. That's what happens.

Jez Alenko. He's so small. What were you thinking? Jez Alenko, you better off. That's how that would go. So football writer Ben Collins wrote a great feature article about O'Day, which I'll link to in the show notes. This was the article that brought my attention to his story.

I don't think it's super well known. I tried to find if there was another podcast about this topic, but it seems like there hasn't been, which is weird because he was like, you know, in terms of football in America and Australia, very influential apparently, as I'll tell you about. Exciting. But anyway, so Collins wrote this article,

and I'll read from it here. The Redlegs capitalized on his versatility using the 183-centimeter player's unique skills at either end and on a wing. That's about my height. So it'd be quite short as a footballer now, but I think back then that's a tall player. And also, he's at either end and on the wing, so he's everywhere. He's everywhere. That's right. Though fast and capable of taking acrobatic marks,

O'Dea was remembered for his prodigious kicking. He did a backflip, catch it, hit the ground, got the flip. You're like, I can't get this guy. What's happening? It's honestly ridiculous. Is this illegal? He's going from one end to the other on a trapeze. What's going on?

I can't get him. I just don't think there are allowed dirt bikes out there. I just don't think so. Is that in the rule book? It's not not in the rule book? He played for the Melbourne Krusty Demons. That's very good. So he was particularly known for his drop kick.

He could kick a really long drop kick, which doesn't exist in the game anymore. What? The drop punt took over from it. The drop kick. He could kick a really long drop kick, which doesn't exist in the game anymore. What? The drop punt took over from it. Oh, okay. You're basically kicking it, I think, as the ball hits the ground, whereas a drop punt now you kick it before the ball hits the ground. Right.

But I think a drop kick would go further than a drop punt, but it's a lot less accurate. Is it still allowed? It's still allowed, but people... Yeah, I don't think anyone's done it in a game for like... It may be in my lifetime. Bring it back. Yeah, bring it back.

I'd love to see it brought back. And maybe while we're at it, stop my brother from calling me a dropkick all the time. Can we take it out of my family's vocabulary and just put it back on the field where it belongs? I'd prefer to be called a droppunt. Yeah. Sorry, what? Oh, that's fine. Yeah, that's okay. Thank'd prefer to be called a drop punt. Yeah. Sorry, what?

Oh, that's fine. Yeah, that's okay. Thank you. Rhyming slang? No, no. No, no. He was abnormally long-legged and long-legged? Long-legged.

Abnormally long-legged and he attributed much of his power to his eye-catching follow-through in which his right kicking leg extended well above his head while his left foot rose about 20 centimetres off the turf. So, you can sort of picture him in sort of... A real Taylor Harris. Oh, yeah. Exactly, yeah.

I think Taylor Harris is the modern-day kicking kangaroo. Yeah. No, kangaroo kicker. Kangaroo kicker. The modern-day O-Day. Yeah. The modern O-Day. That's beautiful.

That's actually very nice. Things are just falling in our lap today. Today is so easy. So easy. This podcast has been so easy. It's been a dream. Do you know what I mean? All right.

So easy. This podcast is standing there and we are just jumping all over its back. We're jumping all over. We are specking all over this podcast. We're specking this podcast to death. Yeah. In 1894, O'Day was named as an emergency for the Victorian team and was instrumental in Melbourne finishing runner-up.

So he's not quite hitting the full heights, but he's doing great work. While O'Day was Keying goals on the field He wasn't quite as successful off it Apparently he was keen to study law At Melbourne University At that point A relatively new institution

Having been founded in 1853 Unfortunately He failed the entrance exam On each of his three attempts Couldn't spell law How's he spelling it? L-O-A. He's like, I just want to talk about

dragons and stuff. So, can I come in? And they're like, no. No. You want a Bachelor of Law. This is the Bachelor of Law. Yeah, that's what I want, a Bachelor of Law. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Have you seen how long

my legs are? Let me in. I'll stun the jury with my long legs. Objection, Your Honour. He's got really long legs. It's distracting. So at the same point,

his older brother Andy was travelling overseas. Not only was Andy a handy homemade football maker, Andy, Andy. only was Andy a handy homemade football maker. Andy, Andy. He was also a decent sportsman himself and was traveling as a trainer for the Australian heavyweight boxing champion, Paddy Slavin.

Slavin trained under the father of Australian boxing. There's another small rabbit hole I went down. His name was Larry Foley, who also trained boxinging Hall of Famer Peter Jackson The only Canadian Born world heavyweight Boxing champion

Tommy Burns And British boxer Bob Fitzsimmons Who was boxing's First three division World champion Wow amazing that Peter Jackson could

Direct those films And make suits As well as box As well as box He could do it all What a guy How long has this guy Been alive

And write that great jingle Peter Jackson I'm going to show you I mean obviously this is an audio medium But what are you picturing? Boxer from the late 1800s Let me show you Paddy Slavin Is he wearing a suit?

Oh yeah Oh yeah of course That's a real Stick em up Yeah Put em up Put em up Hey. That's a real stick them up. Yeah. Put them up. Put them up.

Hey, hey. That's a poster that would be in like a pub or something. You know, like it would be like a vintage poster and you'd be like, I don't know who that guy is. Paddy Slavin, that's who it is. Right. Yeah. No one has known who it is for many decades. Yeah.

He looks like it's like on a cult draft. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. But he's got the mustache, thick mustache with a little twirl at the end. I wouldn't want to mess with him. No. He's got the build of like a tough kangaroo.

If that helps listeners picture him a bit better. I'll post a photo of him at some point on the social media. But yeah, he was the Australian champion and went toe-to-toe with Peter Jackson a few times. Wow. I'm trying to research the kangaroo kicker, and all of a sudden I'm looking into the history of boxing. Yeah.

There's a lot going on in this story. Anyway, Andy O'Day travelled with Slavin as he toured England and then to the United States of America. Whoa. At the end of the tour, Andy ended up staying in America and was appointed as rowing coach at the University of Wisconsin. So this guy could do it all. Is he just good at all sports?

I think he's just good at everything. Yeah. I hate those people, to be honest. His rig just must have been so sick. They went, you can do whatever you want. Sick rig. My God, look at that sick rig. Oh, my goodness.

You want a row? You want a box? You want a row? What do you want to do? You can have it. You want my wife? Sure. You want this house?

Yours. Look at that rig. Look at the rig like that. Oh, my God. It's mesmerizing. I'd be ashamed to not let that rig have this house. Couldn't live with myself. Despite Andy telling his little brother Pat to stay back home,

Pat arrived unannounced at the University of Wisconsin in Madison. Stay away. Don't. Let me have this. No. No. I'm the kangaroo kicker. As yet.

Yeah. Not nicknamed, but soon to be. I'm the soon to be kangaroo kicker. How dare you? I again got distracted when I was going through the university of wisconsin madison's uh notable alum section of which pat o'day is one oh yeah but others on the list include the joker the smoker the midnight toker steve miller oh my goodness some people you might know him as maurice but that um isn't the case uh also, alum there was Nevermind producer and garbage drummer Butch Vig.

Airplane directors, the Zucker Brothers. Milo from The Descendants. That wasn't where he went to college, but he studied there later. Astronaut, Laurel Clark. And previous report topic, Charles Lindbergh. Oh. I hadn't heard of the university, but apparently it's one of the many big famous American universities, I guess.

So many universities. Jeez, they love to study. God, they love it. Don't they love to learn over there? And the whole college system makes a lot of sense and is good for everyone. Well, that's good news. I don't know much about it, but that is reassuring.

Not a lot of upfront costs Which I think is great That is good Love that Which is really good University costs are on your mind at the moment For some reason Big old tax bill That's why

Going back to do your PhD Yeah I'm going Yes that's why Gonna do my PhD Pretty hot dog Yeah I'm gonna go do my

Anyway You're gonna go eat a pretty hot dog A Pretty hot dog Yeah I'm going to go do my Anyway You're going to go eat a pretty hot dog A pretty hot dog Yeah Yeah that's right Onions Onions Mustard

But it's like aesthetically pleasing Yeah it's beautiful It's like it was drawn in a cartoon It's a really pretty hot dog And I'm going to eat it And you're borrowing money from the government to eat it Yes It's an expensive pretty hot dog

I learnt recently Have I said this to you before, the term hot dog came from an American cartoon, like a guy in a strip cartoon in the newspaper where it was just like a cartoon of a dog in a barn or something. It was called a hot dog. And then it just caught on from there. Isn't that weird?

That is weird. I love that. Because I'm always like, where did that come from? Hot dog hot dog apparently a cartoon some sort of little joke that i don't know if it translates now i don't know i mean why because why would that picture make sense if the term hot dog already didn't already exist you know yeah do they just call them what do they call them hotties yes they. Yes, they were. They were like veena, whatever they were called. Vena. Ratverse and all that.

Yeah, right. And then they put like a dog in there and went, that's pretty funny. Look at this hot dog. Although I've just, I mean, I've just done a quick Google and this says, originally US college slang probably influenced by a popular belief that the sausages contained dog meat,

which makes more sense to me right then I can see why and then maybe the cartoon came in after that and popularized the term maybe do a parody of that being like oh yeah that sausage you're eating is actually no so that was a popular food even

when people thought it had dog meat in it I mean I don't understand people drawing the line. I won't eat a dog meat. I'll happily eat a goat or something. What's the difference between a goat and a dog to you? Hey, don't look at me. I don't eat meat.

There we go. I'll answer this one. You'd eat either, wouldn't you? I would not eat a dog Unless it was hot Get a dog up your nose Would you eat a cat? No I think largely poisonous meat, I believe

Okay, alright That was a test Thank you Would you eat a polar bear? No, I believe they're endangered Dave, I'm back on this great Also, I think if you eat their liver You get a little poisonous It's a great resource called wikipedia... Also, I think if you eat their liver, you get a little poisonous.

Yeah, it's bad too. It's a great resource called wikipedia.org that I think I mentioned before. Thanks so much. It says, in Germany, the consumption of dog meat was common in Saxony, Silesia, Anhalt and Bavaria during the 19th and 20th centuries. Oh no, that's my family lineage. So maybe it makes sense. The suspicion that sausages contained dog meat was occasionally

justified oh uh an early use of the term hot dog in reference to the sausage meat appears in the evansville indiana daily courier in 1884 ever the innocent vena versed i don't know what i'm doing with the v sound wiener worst man will be barred from dispensing hot dog on the street corner. Was that the caption of the cartoon? Yeah, I don't know. Have I been, oh no, here's a cartoon here. From, anyway, this is a sidetrack that's not required. A cartoon by Tad.

Check it out if you want to. Tad. From 1916. Good work, 1916 but we are off topic uh so yeah we're talking about uh uh o'day he's arrived to visit his brother at the university of wisconsin in madison i wonder if we've got any listeners from the university of wisconsin um so he was sort of settling in there at his brother's uni just for a visit he went out for a kick of the footy and according to collins when the wannabe lawyer had a casual kick of the american ball on campus it caused such a commotion among awestruck onlookers that he thought he'd

committed a public offense you've kicked it too far. Arrest that boy. The university's football coach was so impressed that the 24-year-old Australian was swiftly offered a chance to study law on the condition he also joined the football squad. Whoa. You kicked that ball real far. Want to be a lawyer? Yes, that's exactly what I wanted to be. Yeah, that worked out quite well, actually.

I mean, they still do that now, don't they? Offering scholarships to someone just because they're really good at the sport. Yeah. But, like, it's funny that, like, Melbourne Uni didn't take him up on that. Obviously, the sport, Melbourne Uni sport is as a high priority, maybe. But, like, American colleges and football and stuff is huge. Yeah, and it was particularly huge at the time because the nfl was still decades away from being formed and at the time college football was the game's elite level wow so this is a big deal he's basically basically

signed to the top level because someone saw him have a kick in the game he's never played in a country he's never been in yeah he's just briefly been there and he's just going outside for a kick. A very normal thing for young Australian men to do, especially nice day, go kick the footy. Yeah. And now he's going to college for a law degree. I feel terrible for the current kicker, though.

He's like, oh, no. I've trained my whole life for this. And then just casually kicks it twice as far. Yeah. And he's like, is that good? Like, is that good in this game? Oh, I wasn't trying. Oh, sorry.

I'm a bit rusty. Just got off a plane. Probably got off a boat. Have you got any bladders I can practice on? So Pat became a student at UW and a member of their football team, Go Badgers. Go Badgers. You might assume that they are called the Badgers because badges are endemic to the era or something like that,

but apparently not, at least according to Wikipedia.org, which says the team's nickname originates in the early history of Wisconsin. In the 1820s and 1830s, prospectors came to the state looking for minerals, primarily lead. Without shelter in the winter, the miners had to live like badgers in tunnels burrowed into the hillsides. That's where they get the name from. Go badgers.

Go badgers. Go badgers. Go back to your hole, badgers. I went down another quick rabbit hole reading about their massive- Badger hole. Badger hole. Oh, sorry. How offensive.

Oh, dear. Apologies to any UW listeners. That's a rabbit hole. How dare you? Apparently, their mascot's named Buckingham U Badger, or Bucky Badger for short. Okay. I hate that.

I like it. I didn't like Buckingham, but Bucky Badge. Bucky Badge. Bucky the Badger's all right. The only thing I really want to talk to you about is portraying the badger. You know, the job you're in the suit at the games and whatever. Love it. It's an unpaid student position.

Of course. But apparently the audition part is grueling. This is according to that great resource, Wikipedia.org, once again. Tryouts include tests of dancing skills, expressiveness in suit, ability to work with props, and the number of push-ups a candidate can do, as well as an interview and the ability to write and perform an original skit.

In the suit? I guess so. Yeah, it's pointless having an expressive face, so you've got to be expressive in suit. Are they doing lots of push-ups in the suit? Apparently, I think when they score, the team scores after a certain amount of push-ups. Oh, okay.

And I saw there was someone held some record of doing more than 1,000 one game. Bucky Badge. Because they scored so much. Did they stop the whole game? Just push-ups the whole time? In a suit like that, you'd be sweating your ass off. It's an unpaid position

But will you get a scholarship To do law Apparently no scholarship Or anything as well The fuck is the point So there's obviously The glory of being Bucky Badge People don't even know you

I mean your face is If you're doing it for the fame Well you go to a local bar And all the men and women You can pick up It's like You know Bucky Badge That's me in that suit

Oh my goodness Maybe like Barkeep Settle my tab I'm taking this man home You're taking Bucky home? The tab's on me Yeah

Hey no charge People are fighting over To pay for Bucky's tab Bucky The Bucky team So I think a few different People at any one time Are playing Bucky

They attend a mascot Training camp Every year in August And they perform throughout the year including at athletic events but also at ceremonies parades festivals weddings and even the occasional funerals weddings and funerals i'm putting this on the record i do not want bucky at my funeral okay Even if he's written a particularly good skit? I would prefer to see the skit ahead of time to determine whether or not... I'll leave that up to you

if you think it is a good enough skit to be performed at my funeral. Have you seen the Twitter account? Is it Twitter or Instagram? There's an account that's Sporting Mascots at minute silences. So, you know, they've normally got this big grin plastered on their face. The rest of the team is sort of lined up in a row with their heads down

and the mascots at the end grinning like kids. Just looking like a psycho. That's really funny. And now a minute of push-ups. That's what they would have wanted. How many push-ups could you do? In a minute No I mean just like I mean it wasn't

A timed thing For the Bucky tryouts Yeah I've been over a few hours Yeah that's true So how many push-ups You never said there was a time limit You wait for me I'm just catching my breath

I've done one so far Yeah Yeah Okay I didn't say stop you i didn't say stop the count if you wanted me to do like a heap of them in a minute maybe you should have been a little clearer but it's too late for that i've started my way yeah i've done a push-up now i'm writing a skit yeah okay i'm doing a little dance while i write i can multitask i'm collecting props there's a lot of things we're gonna do and i'm showing you that i can do more so busy it's not I'm doing a little dance while I write. I can multitask. I'm collecting props.

There's a lot of things I've got to do, and I'm showing you that I can do them all. I'm so busy. It's not easy being Bucky. You're not actually Bucky yet. Wow. Wow. We'll see. Well, I've legally changed my name, so.

It's going to be embarrassing if you don't. For you. It's going to be embarrassing for you if you don't give me this part. Did you know this? In 2006, Bucky was inducted into the Mascot Hall of Fame's college division. Yeah, of course I knew that. Did you know this? There's a Mascot Hall of Fame. We can wait for clean water solutions.

Or we can engineer access to clean water. We can acknowledge Indigenous cultures. Or we can learn from Indigenous voices. We can demand more from the earth. Or we can learn from Indigenous voices. We can demand more from the earth. Or we can demand more from ourselves. At York University, we work together to create positive change for a better tomorrow. Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. Anyway, so that's another side track

But let's get back to Paddy O'Day So when he arrived at UW Is UW shorter than University of Wisconsin to say? Yes it is Great, glad I figured that out In real time When O'Day arrived at UW And is it, is Madison

Madison, yeah Is that the same James Madison That everything else is named after? I guess it yeah Must be I assume God he's just He's just throwing his name Everywhere isn't he

Come on mad dog Peel Peel Peel I think this is Square Gardens Avenue University Place

This guy Sounds ridiculous Don't call me baby So I think Madison is like The key campus for UW UW UW Oh that's even better So I think Madison is like the key campus for UW. UW.

UW. Oh, that's even better. That's way better. I only asked about if it was briefer because, you know, WWW takes longer to say than World Wide Web. I had that in my head. That's fun. Don't worry, we'll shorten it to three letters.

Oh, easy. WWW. Don't worry, we'll shorten it to three letters Oh, easy W-W-W Anyway, so when he arrived The Badgers had only been playing football for a few years They played their first games in 1889 Losing them both Losers So they only played two games They played two games in their first year, yeah

Okay But they played more as time went on And they improved over the following years, but it seems O'Day's arrival heralded a mini golden age for the Badgers. His arrival coincided with the formation of the Big Ten Conference in 1896, when Wisconsin became the first ever conference champion with seven wins, one loss, and one tie. Griffin writes,

the kicking kangaroos' punts and drops electrified the Midwest fans and changed the emphasis of gridiron from bone-crushing power plays to cleaner ball handling and frequent kicking. So, yeah, it was quite a different game back then, according to Collins, though I'll mention that shortly. But according to Collins, O'Day almost didn't even make it onto the field. One afternoon in April 1896, he trained with Andy's rowing crew, and both of them were lucky to escape with their lives

when a squall swamped their boats. A squall? A squall. I don't know where they're rowing. What's a squall? It's like a storm, a water storm. Are you trying to say squirrel? Squirrel. Whenever you say you're trying to say squirrel? Squirrel.

Whenever you say you're trying to say, I'm like, oh my God, my whole world's about to turn upside down. Isn't it a squirrel's like a... I just don't know. I've never heard that. Isn't it like some sort of like a sea storm or something? Yeah, I don't know the big definite definition, but it sounds nasty at sea. It doesn't sound good at all.

Yeah, when I think of rowing, I'm picturing like on a very pleasant river or lake. Yeah, on a very pleasant man-made river. Yeah. Yeah. So, Pat was clinging to both his vessel but also a crewmate who couldn't swim. Oh, shit. And you're on the rowing team. Yeah.

That feels like you should probably know how to swim. Not victim blaming Just saying Maybe Be a little more Comfy around water That's right I mean the fact that

A Someone who tries out to be The mascot Has to do a skit Has to do all Of these push ups But the rowing person Doesn't know how to swim

That seems backwards to me I can sit on water Maybe more You're more motivated To be a fast rower And get back to land You know Yeah that's true actually

You're terrified the whole time Ah it's everywhere Use that Use that energy The faster you row the faster you will be back on land Okay Use that energy Which energy?

The terror or the horniness? Because I am rock hard I don't want to get out of the canoe Because I am rock hard. I don't want to get out of the canoe because people will know. This is one of those inappropriate riffs before someone does. But through sheer exhaustion in the cold water, O'Day eventually lost his grip and the other row had drowned. That's awful.

Okay, we did not know that. No. Obviously, no, you didn't. I did, and I enabled you, and I apologize. But also, I learned to swim. A rescue party finally arrived after two hours. Understandably, the traumatic experience discouraged O'Day from rowing, and he focused more on football after that. After his first game of college football,

O'Day suffered a broken arm at practice he got injured a bit it was like this is you know real slim gym and it was a you know pretty brutal game even back then I believe uh but in his first game back he caused a sensation at the Chicago Coliseum indoor stadium when he rocketed a punt kick that became stuck in the roof beams whoa that's awesome yeah it doesn't seem ideal but no it's a pain in the butt hard to do yeah so not because i only had one ball yeah oh great anybody got a bladder anyone got a ladder a pretty big ladder admittedly um o'Day quickly adapted to the American code, which in its formative years perfectly suited his skills.

Forward passes weren't yet legalised, so the game more resembled rugby. Now the quarterback, big part of the game is a throwing game. Back then you couldn't do that. So kicking was the way to move the ball forward, apparently. And you know how now you're saying as a kicker, like Sav Savrocker goes over there, just kicks, doesn't do anything else. At the time, is he still in the scrums and being... Yeah, he was playing full back.

So, he had a much more active role. Yeah. Hence the broken arm. That's fair. And also, different to now, back then, field goals were worth five points and touchdowns only four points so okay it was really valuable uh his his skills were really valuable and what are they worth now they're now worth uh three points for a field goal and six points for a touchdown right uh and a touchdown you get a shot you get to kick a conversion or whatever i don't know what they

call them after that but you get to kick a goal giving you seven probably seven points usually i don't think if you'd asked me how many points is a touchdown i i don't think i would have known i would have been guessing yeah i mean i've been watching a lot of it recently and i wouldn't probably wouldn't put my life on the line either well you've been watching a lot but drinking a lot at the same time i've also mainly i've been watching because the games it's normally like a weird time to be drinking but just on thanksgiving day a few weeks back i happened to have a massive bender while the games were on and then tragically you weren't able to make our live podcast when we screened the mummy which you can hear on patreon so instead we had to sub in amazingly we're able to make our live podcast when we screened The Mummy, which you can hear on Patreon. So instead we had to sub in.

Amazingly, we were able to book the writer slash director of The Mummy, Stephen Summers. Matt, you would have loved to meet him. You would have loved him, yeah. He was a lot of fun. He knew a lot. Bit of a loose unit. I listened back a little bit and couldn't listen to too much

because for some reason it made me cringe. But it was funny how much he sounded like me. It is interesting actually i thought because he's from indiana he kept saying yeah after like seemingly looking at his phone or something to double check yeah weird lots of lots of pauses before he remembered his own name yeah strange guy but uh but you know a boon for the podcast yeah yeah a lot of fun so that's phrasing the bar a great a great get for us. It's about obviously your loss. Yeah, no, a shout out not to be able to get there.

But it was a fun day either way. So, yeah, so he's kicking goals on the field now. As a kicker, he could dominate. The American ball was also rounder back then, less pointy, I guess, because it wasn't a throwing ball as much. More bladder-like. More bladder-like. More bladder-like. It was more similar to an Australian football at the time,

so it was more conducive to drop kicking. Yep. In his four years at UW, O'Day was a revelation and became captain in his final two years. So he went straight to the top there. According to Collins, he smashed all of the game's kicking records, producing extraordinary efforts of precision and power with drop kicks, punts and place kicks from his, quote, educated toe.

That toe. That's got a tertiary education. Yeah, with honours. Yeah. Now that toe could get into Melbourne Uni law. Yeah. Okay. Come back to us when your toe wants to sit the exam Honestly it's often the way that

You know in Australia You've got to go overseas to prove yourself Before you get respect back home It's absolutely true It's really disappointing Tall poppy syndrome Yeah It's really ruining it for a lot of toes

I remember that happened with Madison Avenue Yes They had to get that big hit Don't call me baby And then we were like, ours. Yeah. Madison Avenue, ours. They're ours.

One of ours. New Zealand, ours. They did well overseas. Yeah, New Zealand did pretty well. Ours. We'll take them. Anything from New Zealand, we'll take it. The Badgers fullback, O'Day, became the most dangerous player in the game.

Oh, he's got a knife launching the knife yeah knife on the field yeah it wasn't until he got over there that they outlawed no it's not they're like we didn't think we need to put them in the rules but apparently we do because this is weird Australia with a knife um you said that with the same sort of tone you would say bird in the classroom there's a bird in the classroom knife on the field i like that there's a special tone for bird in the classroom oh yeah i was thinking about the other day sorry to um derail here but you know like the phrase fucking hell yeah sounds silly the way i just said it doesn't it yeah because in australia it has its own melody. Right. Fucking hell. Yeah.

Or even like, fucking hell. Fucking hell. Yeah. And it's also, it's a fuck, not a fuck. Fucking. But like a British, like, fucking hell. That sounds ridiculous. It's a fucking hell, you know? That sounds classy and beautiful, I think.

Oh, fucking hell. Oh, fucking hell. I could picture maybe Poirot's offside of saying it. Yeah. I say, fucking hell. Hastings would never. Good Lord. Good Lord, look at her, Poirot.

He's a real perv. I say. Wow, Hastings. He's always been taken in by the beautiful woman who sometimes is the killer. Hastings, you stupid bitch. He is a little silly. Sometimes.

But very brave when needed. He's written into the show, right, so Poirot is someone who explains things to us. Yeah, it's exposition. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah, for idiots like you. It's for dummies. Like us, right? Yeah, like you.

Idiots like you. It's for dummies. Like us, right? Yeah, like you. So he became the most dangerous player in the game, both for his knife, but also his big kicking. He launched the longest known ever drop kicked field goal with a 62 yard bomb on the run in a blizzard. None of it.

Which sounds impossible. Blizzard, I understood. In a blizzard. None of it. Which sounds impossible. Blizzard, I understood. In a blizzard. So he's got a knife and then he's got a bomb. Yeah. Oh, my God. This guy's taking it to the next level. He's unhinged.

He's a terrorist. Yeah. Like, we're talking about this guy like he's a hero. He is unhinged. To kick an accurate 62-yard running drop kick. So that's over 50 meters. In a blizzard. Yeah, 56.7 apparently.

And the longest ever then or still the longest man? Well, the way this is written, it feels like it's the longest record. I think because they don't do running drop kicks anymore. So probably... Not super relevant now. But to kick it through the blizzard accurately at that distance, that's amazing. That's incredible.

On the run, I'd be lucky to make contact with the ball on the run but i'm also not a professional footballer in any sense of the word yet i'm i'm trying to educate that toe but it just won't listen i currently have a bruise on my ankle here oh that's a tattoo oh shit i was say, it's in the shape of satin. How cool is that? That's just from kicking a soccer ball for my dog and kicking it incorrectly. Ow. And I've got a massive bruise on my leg. Was it in a blizzard?

Yeah, that's why I brought this up. You know, because you're like, I wouldn't even make contact with my foot. I would, but like not the right part of my body. But something would make contact with that ball. No accuracy, of course, but more power. But at least you make contact. Yeah, make contact. Oh, it easily went 62.

Yeah, I was just sideways. Yeah. O'Day believed his greatest goal, which has been hailed as, quote, the most impressive, the most improv, which has been hailed as, quote, the most impressive, the most improbable, which has been hailed as, quote, the most impossible kick in football history, was a match-winning 55-yard or 50-meter place kick into a howling crosswind. As he lined up, the referee said he was crazy for even considering it.

The ref's like, mate, you're wasting your time. What are you doing? Let's, you can't kick it. Let's go. As if. As if you can do it. Stop wasting your time. What are you doing? You can't kick it. Let's go. As if. As if you can do it. Stop wasting my time. Got a cup of tea over there waiting for me.

Once he even roosted a punt kick that sailed with wind assistance 110 yards, the full length of the field, over 100 meters. And he roosted it. He roosted it. That means kick it big.ed it That means kick it big Wow That means kick it with your dick No, that's rooted it

Watch me root this ball It was said that O'Day could curve a football as pitchers curve a baseball And hit a five yard target at 80 metres Like he could just make the ball move Wow, he could bend it like Beckham he could bend it like beckham exactly that's amazing that's what they said and people like who's beckham he hasn't been invented he's been he was like uh foretold yes when he came along yeah in the scriptures yeah it was foretold one day beckham and number seven will come along uh coll Collins goes on to say that it's little wonder

that the father of American football, Walter Camp, selected O'Day in the All-American teams of 1898 and 99. He was the first Western States player to achieve the honour. Camp declared the Aussie, quote, put the foot in football and also put the spring in Springfield. It was suggested in a half-page newspaper cartoon that O'Day's right leg could become as iconic as the right arm of world champion boxer

John Boston Strongboy Sullivan. So, I mean, that says it all, doesn't it? Yeah. Say no more. That is absolutely... Report over. Absolutely. Nominative determinism. Yeah. Strong no more. That is absolutely. Report over. Absolutely. Nominative determinism.

Yeah. Strongboy became a boxer. Yeah. Boston Strongboy, that's his middle name. Amazing. Well, that's a great. Strongboy.

That's one of my favourite ever nicknames. Do you want me to call you Boston Strongboy? Yeah, could you? Yeah, BS for short. Boston Strongbun. Strongbun.

Strongbuns. You should have. Strong Bun. Strong Buns. You should have Strong Buns. I have Strong Buns. Watch me bun this ball. Like Poirot, I can carry a coin wedge between my buttock. A heavy coin. So these exploits led him to receiving the nickname The Kangaroo Kicker.

Right. Which I think hasn't settled in now. Oh, big fan. I still think he's a serial killer. I think that's a twist that's coming that I've probably ruined by nailing it. There is a twist that, yeah. But I like it. He's definitely like a low-level criminal.

But I don't know if that's allegedly, maybe. The people loved him, writing poems and songs in his honour, Allegedly, maybe. The people loved him, writing poems and songs in his honour, leading up to an 1898 Thanksgiving Day game against Michigan. One of the songs included Oh Pat Oh Day, which was sung to the popular tune at the time, Marjorie. And it went, oh, I couldn't find the original song,

so I don't know the tune. I'll just talk out some of these. Oh, Pat O'Day. Yes. The balls, the balls are kicking. It goes, Oh, Pat O'Day, Oh, Pat O'Day, we love you more and more. Oh, Pat O'Day, Oh, Pat O'Day, you're the boy that we adore.

Your leg is ever sure and true and always kicks a goal or two the team and rooters worship you oh pato day wow that's the dream to have the rooters worship oh yeah you want the road is on your side that's for sure i wonder is that still an american term i wonder rooters it's beautiful that's so beautiful. Imagine having the Rooters worship you. That's a dream. Dream come true. Yeah.

Not only did he have a super boot, O'Day was also super quick, using his pace to return a kickoff for a 90-yard touchdown in an 18-99 game. So he's also, he's run the length of the field, basically, to score a touchdown. And in that same game, he also kicked four field goals. He was a freak. Wow. It's a freak. Wow. It's a wild idea watching the modern game.

The kickers will come, or the punters, two different roles now. I think he was sort of doing them all as well as being on the field in general play. But in the modern game, a kicker or the punter will kick and then go off the ground. Go off and have a smoke going off yeah i probably have a nap have an orange and that's the role the punters is the role that most australians go over to play because i guess we just learn to kick from a young age and that's

just i guess most american kids aren't going i want to be that bit part player on the team yeah oh man that's a dream you get paid millions of dollars to kick and then sit down. Yeah. That is a dream. No one's, like, crushing you. Yeah. 180 kilo man isn't jumping on top of you. This is fantastic news.

There was a play that made the news a little bit a few years ago when one of the Australian punters made a tackle after he kicked. And people were like, they don't normally do that. He's like, oh, I used to play a game where you did all the bits. That's really funny. He wasn't even wearing the pads. He didn't have shoes on. He'd actually been off the field.

He was just putting his little eye mask on for his nap. And he thought, oh, I could get him. So he did. He tackled a striker. There's no security. Wussers couldn could get him. So he did. He tackled a streaker. These security wusses couldn't get him. Yeah, there's a number of instances where an Australian sports person on the field tackled a streaker.

Or like there's that time when there was a streaker in a cricket game and the batsman hit him in the nads with his bat. Or that time when the pig was on the field and that Sydney player tackled it. Yeah, that's right. That'd make a great compilation video. Yeah, beautiful.

But also, over the top of it, you have to be playing like waltzing Matilda or something. And it's one of those videos you watch when you're overseas and you're a bit homesick. And just, yeah, just the commentary and stuff cut together becomes our new national anthem.

Yeah, well, it's so beautiful. God bless us. My culture. So he wasn't only quick on the football field though. He was also on the athletics team at the university as a hurdler.

And at one point held the 300-meter hurdles world record. What? Is he studying law as well? And he's also studying law at the same time. This guy's ridiculous. Amazing. So, like I said before, he was relatively slim for a footballer and that led to him being frequently injured

as he was also a big weapon so the other teams would yeah physically as well this physical threat led to an emotional plea from his old melbourne neighbor none other than famed opera singer dame nelly melba what he just lived next door to it yeah they were just melbourne neighbors growing up so she lived She lived in Melbourne? Well, this is... Yeah, I didn't really realise that either, but this is what was written about at the time. This physical threat to his wellbeing led to an emotional plea from his former neighbour in Melbourne,

the famous singer Dame Nellie Melba. According to Collins, when the prominent pair met up after one of her shows in Chicago, it was reported that Melba sought by every means to secure his promise that he would never again risk his life and limb in that game she called the brutal football game you are playing here in America. That brutal football game. Melba was born Helen Porter Mitchell

and apparently took on the pseudonym Melba as a shortening of her hometown of Melbourne. I didn't realise it. It seems obvious now. I just thought it was a weird coincidence. Yeah. That's nice.

Melba's face is on the Australian $100 bill. I think we might have even talked about this briefly last week. Yeah. And I want to... I did not know Dave Nellie was on the $100. I don't see a lot of $100s. No, I don't see a lot of them either. Well, obviously I know Sir John Monash is on the other side because I only use $100 bills.

I know, it's really annoying when we're just buying a coffee. He keeps doing it. Fucking hell, mate. You put it on card or something. You don't have any coins. It's $4. You're like, nope. He pulls out his little money clip.

What do you do with the change then for the hundo? Throw it in the bin. Hey, let's play a fun little game. Whenever you use a hundo and you've got all that pesky change, give it to me. Yeah, that's good. Well, you can get it out of the bin, mate. Call me the bin.

Earn the money. That's my nickname. Call my wallet the bin. But, you know, calling them hundos, I reckon we should be calling them Melbers. Yeah, that's way better. Making Melbers. You know they talk about spending Benjamins or something in America? Making Melbers calling them Melbers. Yeah, that's way better. Making Melbers. They talk about spending Benjamins or something in America.

Making Melbers. Making Melbers. I feel like that could be something. That'll only set you back a couple of Melbers. Yeah. That's good. That's real good. Let's start that.

I think we should start it. Tweet it. Tweet it? Your tweets are always A, taken as they're intended, and B, viral. Oh, yeah. Got 100% success rate. Big virality on Twitter.

Yeah. And yeah, just people just getting it. Yeah. Just understanding irony, understanding joke, very obvious jokes, obviously, so that's why they get it so easily. It is fun when people discover sort of a level of irony in what i've said i'm like oh yeah thank you for pointing that out that was not built in this was an incredibly genuine

thought i had that i thought i'd share but um it's so funny that you've you've picked up on some irony that was not intentional very much uh anyway so aay, not only dominant athlete He was also a bit of a heartthrob on campus Oh my god Day by day But by night Obey Sounds a bit creepy actually

Apparently UW students called him quote A handsome, congenial, carefree individual with a flair for the unusual. Which I don't, what does that mean? Oh, what's he doing? He's into some kinky shit. Yeah. Missionary.

Yeah, he calls it, yeah, old school. Yeah. In Wisconsin, that scene is very quirky. Yeah. Because it's like, there's not that much info on him online a lot of it is similar stories you know across multiple sources uh it seems like the most in depth one is the one i've been quoting from mainly the collins one but um yeah i I love the idea that he has a flair for the unusual and that it's very unclear what that means.

This is another bit of art that was written about him. It was a poem that was published in the 1900 University Yearbook. The grandstand is a howling mass. The lines are crowded thick. Now centre makes a clever pass when pat goes back to kick unerringly the pigskin flies above the gold cross of the gold cross sticks the rooters rah rahs rend the skies when pat goes back to kick other rooters rooters the rooters rah rahs rah We're just rah-rahs. Rah-rahs. Rah-rah, rah-rah-rah. Is that what they're... Yeah. Rah-rah Rasputin.

Lover of the Russian queen. I think that's one of the big cultural differences between America and Australia. They'll kick a pigskin, we kick a bull's bladder. Yeah. You know, at the end of the day, we all put our pants on one leg at a time We're not so different When his college career ended

Following his graduation from UW Oh so what You're going to stop playing for them Because you're not a student there anymore Yeah Okay He should have watched Van Wilder Just pick up a few extra little

Units or whatever Middle Eve You can hang around for ages And Van Wilder stars whom? I think he plays himself. Matt, famously. Jeremy Jackson? Cannot remember.

Is that anyone? Jeremy Jackson is... No, that's no one. Are you thinking of Joshua Jackson? Sure. Because it's not him either. Okay. Oh, James Van Der Beek.

It's James Van Der Beek. Yes, it is. Yes. Yes. Hearts rob James Van Der Beek. It's James Van Der Beek. Yes, it is. Yes. Yes. Hearts rob James Van Der Beek. Yeah. What a guy. God, he's good.

He's very good. Also plays Deadpool. Yes, that's right. Yes, he does. He's very good, James Van Der Beek. I love James Van Der Beek. What a great range. From Van Wilder all the way up to Deadpool.

I love what I love about him. He's always kind of the same guy. Sometimes he's wearing a superhero costume Yeah Sometimes he's not James Van Der Beek But genuinely a big fan of James Van Der Beek's work In those two films and others Two Guys Ago on a Pizza Place

Yeah, another good one of James Van Der Beek So his college career ended This isn't Van Der Beek anymore I know he did play in Varsity Blues. He also played this game, but I'm talking about Patio Day. After he left University of Wisconsin, he became the non-playing coach of Notre Dame. Am I saying that right, Dave?

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Nailed it. Non-playing coach. Yes. Are there playing coaches yeah i think it may be more so back then but in the in aussie rules there was playing coaches until not that long ago really yeah maybe up until maybe there was one in the 80s but it was pretty common before that and in suburban footy you'll still get it a bit a playing coach yeah how do you i mean

well what better place to coach from? That's right. Than right in someone's face. Yeah. Timo, I said. Kick it to me. Remember, rule number one. Think of me. So is there, would there be a playing coach and a captain still?

Yeah. Imagine just captain coach, right? Power dynamic is all over the place there. Yeah, that's true. The captain said to do this. Well, I his captain coach, right? Power dynamic is all over the place there. Yeah, that's true. But the captain said to do this, well, I'm the coach. Captain doesn't mean shit. If I'm out here, Timo, you'll kick it to me. No, sorry, ref, we're having a chat here.

It won't be a moment. You kick it to me, Timo. Well, I'm also the ref. And the bar manager said, if you want a fucking beer after the game, you'll kick it to me. You'll kick it to me You'll kick it to me I don't care that you've got a clean shot I don't care that I don't

I don't care that I'm 80 metres in the other direction Kick it backwards I don't care that I'm not on the pitch right now You will kick it to me It's just a really menacing coach He's a nightmare Are you getting an insight into what I'll be like As a coach slash parent Any sort of power

Oh Bob's been given A small amount of power As a coach slash parent You're saying to your kid Kick it to me Kick it to me But mum This is under seven

I will kill you If you don't kick it to me Too far Okay Well no Good to know where our line is Kill you While we play Call of Duty later. Yeah.

I think threatening kids with that kind of answer to motivate. I don't know why that's going to cause lifelong issues, is it? Give me a break. Kids these days are too soft. So anyway, he's the non-playing coach of Notre Dame. Notre Dame. One of the all-time great...-playing coach of Notre Dame. Notre Dame. One of the all-time great... Butchering of the language.

Well, how do the French say it? Notre Dame. Notre Dame. Okay. Notre Dame. I'm going to split the difference. No, I think... Notre Dame.

Notre Dame. I think one of the classic film puns, if this is a pun, the quarterback of Notre Dame. Is that the hunchback of Notre Dame. I think one of the classic film puns, if this is a pun, the quarterback of Notre Dame. Is that the hunchback of Notre Dame? Is that right? Yeah. Oh, is that a film? Yeah.

What's the hunchback? Hunchback of Notre Dame. Yeah. So instead of Hunchback of Notre Dame, the quarterback of Notre Dame. I like that. Bit of fun. That is a bit of fun.

That's great work. Like a straight to TV kind of film. You didn't know the Hunchback of Notre Dame? No I don't know the Quarterback of Notre Dame Okay I reckon I got funding as soon as They just put the name for it On a piece of paper

Sit across the table I said how much you want I'm gonna double it There you go You want 10 mil? Fucking have 50 I don't even know maths I don't even care

Have this Go Go Make it Leave my office If you can get JTT or someone like that I don't even know maths I don't even care Have this Go Go Make it Leave my office If you can get JTT Or someone like that Who I reckon

Would have starred in it Because it was like A mid 90s kind of thing Yeah JTT's in there So while he was there Coaching The team The team's mascot

Was a live kangaroo Which would bound Up and down the No Fucking way No Don't like that did they audition them yeah how many push-ups can they do it wrote an amazing sketch beautiful it was thought

provoking it was funny it was poignant and the callback at the end wrapping it all together oh my god it was so nuanced yes so it's running up and down the side is it like fenced in is it hopping in a fenced area or can i just enter the side Is it like Fenced in Is it hopping In a fenced area Or can it just Enter the crowd If it felt like it Yeah for one

I mean they can They can bounce What are they a fucking rabbit They don't hop Good luck Keeping them in a In a Fenced in anywhere

Even at the zoo We have to walk through Their enclosure They used to try And put them in their own thing But they can't They just kick the bars out So his coaching record that year was really strong

Four name wins, two losses, two ties Very good record But his time with Notre Dame Ended in really strange circumstances Again, I haven't been able to qualify this anywhere else but see if you can make sense of this according to collins before the final game in 1901 he mysteriously decided to play for the opposition he's a non-playing coach for notre dame but instead for some reason the last game of the year he played with for the professional south bend

studebakers who were who they were playing against that week. He then incurred the wrath of his new teammates when they suffered an upset defeat after being baffled by Notre Dame's tactical moves. So he played for the opposition and lost. What? And then his new teammates hated him because his coaching was so good to the team that he wasn't playing for.

Oh, that's baffling. And that's strange. His team that he coaches is playing for. Oh, it's baffling. And that's strange. His team that he coaches is presumably also mad at him for going to the other team. Yeah, they sacked him. Not surprising. How weird is that? Here's what I think has happened. You guys have seen Dodgeball?

Yeah. Dip, dive, duck, dodge, dive. Dodge. Rip torn. Amazing. I think what it is, is like he's been blackmailed. Oh, okay. I said, you'll come play with us.

And he's like, okay, I'll come play with you. I can't guarantee a win. My teams are very good. He's winking whenever he says it. Yeah, I'll play with you. I'll play with you. And then he's just like sipping a cup of tea on the side. He's like, well What I'm on the field

I'm playing with you I'm here I'm ready for a ball If you want to Head it my way He's like Playing with you Oh

Where I come from That means sort of Messing with you Yeah That's what I'm doing I'm playing with you Oh I'm playing with you And he's still winking

It's all very confusing I think he's been blackmailed Yeah Do you think they've said Play for us Or the kangaroo gets it I think they've said We have got

Very incriminating sketches of you. I don't know if cameras are around. And we will release him. So, he had a dominant season as coach and then was sacked because he did this weird thing playing for the other team. It's so weird. So strange. What an odd thing to do.

And we, like, yeah, it's so long ago, we don't have any insight into why. Yeah, there'd be all sorts of articles about it now that you could read. And we like yeah it's so long ago We don't have any insight into why Yeah that would have There'd be all sorts of articles about it now That you could read but yeah Other than blackmail So I'm still standing by that So after that he coached Missouri For a season in 902

Again he had a winning season there But moved on again Starting to think Is he a nightmare or something Why is he He's not hanging on To these jobs But he was so loved At UW

Loved him Loved him He then became Football coach And athletics director At the American School Of Osteopathy Osteopathy

Maybe Right Which sounds pretty prestigious As a sporting school I'm sure But it seems He may have lied On his resume

Saying he'd graduated with a Bachelor of Arts from Melbourne University in 1893, which obviously he didn't do. This led to him being sacked again, and this proved to be the end of his involvement in top-flight football. After this, he went to San Francisco and is said to have helped popularise Australian rules football

in the US as a participation sport by training san fran school children in the kicking game and they had this weird new game that was called like field kicking or something field football or something field kicking what you do is you go out in them fields and there's an old article that i was reading where um it was i think it was an Australian article saying there was going to be a shipment of American school kids from San Francisco kind of come over and play against Aussie kids in some sort of version of that game. And that was all helped set up by him.

But from there, he disappeared from public view, seemingly vanishing in a thin air around the time of world war one according to griffin a futile worldwide search reaching to australia was made but obviously being futile they just couldn't find he just sort of disappeared off the face of the earth it's easy to do that back then wasn't it yeah i'd say a lot easier yeah now i just track my just look at my Instagram. Oh, there she is. You're like...

Dumbass. Here I am. Don't tell anyone. I'm disappeared. Don't tell anyone. But this is my address. And I've changed my name. People's best guess was that he joined an Australian Army regiment

and was killed somewhere in France, which is what his brother believed. Decades passed and then... Like a family would be notified usually of people's death. Yeah, you'd think so. Unless he'd like sign up under a different name. That's true. Why would he do that?

What's he hiding? Who's got something on him? Has that blackmail happened again? Yeah, blackmail's happened again. A war has blackmailed him. So, yeah, decades have gone by. In 1934, plans were hatched to create a memorial in his honour. This is like, you know, pushing 20 years since he was last seen.

According to Collins, though, around this time, San Francisco Chronicle sports writer bill lesser had received a tip-off that o'day was living in a small town of westwood deep in the sierra nevada mountains in north eastern california then 62 o'day had been living there for 15 years under the assumed name of charles j mitchell what he took charles from his younger brother's name and Mitchell from Dame Nellie Melba's real name, original name. And he was working as a clerk for a lumber company. News of O'Day's secret life was a bombshell, creating breathless headlines across two continents.

Breathless headlines. O'Day found. How are they spelling that? It's amazing. In Madison, it even overshadowed the arrest of the kidnapper of Lindbergh's baby. It overshadowed that? The crime of the century. Not in Madison.

Wow. Whoa. Which is where Lindbergh went to uni. Obviously didn't make enough of a mark while he was there. Not like the kangaroo kicker. He had plenty of marks. O'Day claimed his football fame had been a handicap in business as it was all anyone wanted to talk to him about.

He's like, I just want to be a lawyer or be a business guy. But everyone's just like, oh, man, remember when you kicked that ball real good? He's like, I just want to. He's like, of course I remember. I was there. I was there. Now let's talk litigation. Let's talk business.

Let's talk brass tacks. I feel like a bunch of ex-VFL people often become good salesmen because they go around to the tyre yard and everyone's like, oh, my God. Yeah. So if Rock is here salesmen because they go around to like the tyre yard and everyone's like oh my god yeah Sav Rock is here everyone wants to go

talk to him and then oh anyway while I'm here boys do you want to buy a few few of these yeah

that'll mean I get his mobile number on his card oh sick so you give him a couple of stories from the good old days and they go

yeah yeah great great great we'll sign up yeah that is true that would be my other sales rep hasn't fucking played shit. Fucking fuck.

I mean, he's like an incredible salesman. Gets me a great deal. But he's not interesting for me to tell other people about. Yeah, that's right. I want to say that I've got O'Day's

personal mobile number. I don't even care if it is a work phone which sits in a drawer and you will ignore. I need to know I can contact you. This is what O'Day said at the time. I wanted to get away from what seemed to me to be all in the past. As Pat O'Day, I seem to be very much just an ex-Wisconsin football player.

I was very happy as Mitchell for a while. Later, I often found it rather unpleasant not to be the man i actually am so i'm going to be pat o'day for the rest of my life perhaps i should never have been anything else so he's just saying it was just business he wanted to he just wanted to disappear a bit you know become anonymous again for a while however there were probably more sinister motives for a day's self-imposed exile in 1919 he'd been charged with embezzling three thousand dollars and stock valued at fifteen hundred dollars from a client and was due to appear before a grand jury in san francisco

but then he went missing okay could be a coincidence it's business i was sick of being recognized by people wanting me to go to court. Giving me affidavits. Yeah, I was like, oh my God, leave me alone. Are you Patrick O'Day? Where you've been summonsed. Oh, here we go. I'm sick of it.

Oh, I remember when you kicked good. Oh, see you in court on Wednesday. It's exhausting. I just want to go live in the mountains. I just want to live in the mountains and be a businessman. Apparently running away from the charge didn't seem to make any big dent on his re-entry into society's Pat O'Day, with the public welcoming him back with open arms. According to Collins, the born-again O'Day was completely unprepared for his overwhelming reception from the sporting public.

He received a rapturous welcome on his homecoming to UW. People packed the streets for a glimpse of the legend, greeting him with, quote, lusty cheers and singing. Lusty. Woo-hoo. Are we both, like, shimmies? A bit of gyration going on. Woo-hoo. Hey. Lusty cheers That's funny The man of the moment

Who was always referred to by the US media As former Australian rugby star Which is not true Reveled in the adulation As he would for the last three decades of his life. According to Griffin, after his re-emergence, he returned to San Francisco where he joined an export business.

His last occupation was as office manager for a clothing firm, where people are just going and getting selfies, buying a couple of shirts. Yeah. Bought a shirt. Bought a shirt for my day. Can you believe it? In 1952, America's greatest football hero was given a testimonial banquet by Wisconsin alumni. He deplored the loss of kicking skills in contemporary gridiron, saying,

the boys don't follow through enough. In his view, Australian rules football was the better game. It allowed players more spectator appear with its faster action okay very different games it's funny how people go it's just it's just classic sort of um nostalgia yeah it's better when i played it of course people talk about it like people talk about footy all the time like that people who are like in their 30s and 40s are like it's best in the 90s like it's like from you know professional sports journalists to people around the pub yeah so many people talk like that it's like i reckon the kids of today disagree you watch an old game it's like oh this is a bit of a mess yeah the great things

about it but it's changed it's just funny it's like you reckon it's anything to do with when you were just a kid and football was more magical to you? You had a lot more time to just watch sport. Yeah. Now you can only do that at the sacrifice of other boring tasks. I know people will be yelling at their iPod now going, no, it was better in the 90s. And definitely there were some things about it that were better in the 90s.

Don't get me wrong. But when you're saying everything was better when you were about 15 to 18, then it's, yeah, it's probably a little bit of nostalgia and that being an adult is sometimes hard and tedious. Yes. It was great when, I mean, you used to kick more goals back then. That was pretty good. Yep.

But you watch it and it is just like sometimes it's just the ball bouncing backwards and forwards. They say the skills aren't as good now but i reckon they're definitely better now stuff was way worse yeah back then too bring back the beer honestly bring back the beer can't even knock people out behind the play anymore can't even coward punch anymore you don't have to have a second job anymore isn't that that weird? You get to focus full time on the game. Oh, these bloody footy players today with their, oh, getting a massage on my muscles. I finished a footy game and went to work in the mine. I butchered Monday to Friday and had a kick on a Saturday.

Okay. And you know what I did to recover? Had a beer. Had a smoke and a pie at half to one. Had a smoke and a pie Had a smoke and a pie Had a beer and a root And honestly the skills were just much more professional We knew more about the body back then O'Day had famous admirers right until the end

Being invited onto Bob Hope's All American Football Team announcement shows What is that it must have just been like a weekly show or maybe a yearly show where they'd announced the the team of the year or something again i could not find much more information interesting uh but according to collins among the this is the the thing i'm going to finish with um links back to a recent topic. According to Collins,

among the hundreds of people to send 90th birthday wishes to O'Day in March of 1962 were then President John F. Kennedy, whose note opened with, as a fellow son of Aaron and longtime admirer, which is interesting because he wasn't born when O'Day played. So, yeah. Wow. That sort of says how big his legend'Day played. So, yeah. Wow. That sort of says how big his legend was back then. Yeah, wow.

Even though it doesn't... I mean, had you heard of him? I hadn't heard of him. No, I hadn't heard of him. And it's like, we should have. It seems like we really should have, right? Yeah, it's strange. He's a real sporting legend.

And we love sporting legends here. I know. Isn't that weird? Yeah. I assume son of Aaron means Son of Irish people Yeah Is Aaron Is it

Ireland Land of Aaron or something How's that spelt E-R-I-N Apparently But No that's not I mean that's not

Ireland in Irish No But I'm guessing it's Yeah That's something Yeah because they're both Kids of Irish people Yeah

Are they both catholics yeah i think oh probably it seems like kilmore was a real catholic sort of place yeah sounds like it people up in the big smoke hated it when uh that catholic girl was premier but that was interesting because that made me think of that as well because jfk one of you said one of his biggest hurdles to become president was that he was an Irish Catholic. Absolutely. And, yeah, it's funny that that was a problem in Melbourne as well. I don't think I was ever aware of it,

although O'Shaughnessy overcame that. Yeah. Bravely. On the 3rd of April 1962, he was elected to the College Football Hall of fame uh which was a you know huge honor um but all good things must come to an end and he died of cancer the following day on the 4th of april 1962 at the university of california hospital in san francisco sounds like one of those classic things where he's maybe he was just holding on for that

announcement or something like that but wow and so he would have just stayed in the u.s his whole San Francisco. Wow. Sounds like one of those classic things where maybe he was just holding on for that announcement or something like that. Wow. And so he would have just stayed in the US his whole life essentially, right? Yeah, that's right. Like how young was he when he went over? 24. Yeah, right.

So this is where my brain has gone. Definitely got an American accent by this point. Like that's all I was thinking for a lot of this. I was like, probably doesn't sound Aussie anymore. Probably doesn't even hardly say Cobra anymore. Yeah. Nah, he's no I was thinking for a lot of this. I was like, probably doesn't sound Aussie anymore. Probably doesn't even hardly say Cobra anymore. Yeah. Nah, he's no one of us now. I wonder what the Australian accent was back then in the late 1800s.

How developed it was. Yeah, true. It probably sounded quite English. And what the American accent was back then as well. Yeah. Being interesting. Probably all sounding fairly English. I'm sure I've said this uh before but i

find that fascinating how an accent develops yeah and i it blew my mind a couple years ago when i saw a video of some like 20 to 30 year old melbournians talking doing vox pops recently there's an old tape and i think of like you know old man old woman voice being like oh hello dear yeah it's like oh that's not old person voice old woman voice. We're like, oh, hello, dear. Yeah. It's like, oh, that's not old person voice. That's just how they always talked. Yeah. It's not like you start talking like that when you get older.

Yeah. It's not like when we're old, we're suddenly going to be wearing cardigans, pearls and playing chess. Like nursing homes for us, we're going to be in boardies and t-shirts. Yeah, that's right. And like oversized clothes and we're going to be playing video games. And people are going to be like, oh, look at the grandpas and grandmas playing their video games. It's just how they always were. Yeah.

Yeah. It's such a funny realization. Like, obviously that's the case. Nah, but you just don't have that. It takes a while to get to that realization. You're like, oh yeah, of course. But it's so funny to hear like a 28 year old saying, oh yes. Yeah.

Oh, it's marvelous, isn't it oh no i think fantastic i think a woman should stay home it's always those i think a woman should stay home and look after the children these women who want to work oh i just don't think that oh no and you're like so that is that is the end of my report on the kangaroo kicker patty o'day or pat o'day which yeah i just found to be a fascinating story and so interesting that it doesn't seem to be well known yeah great one at all and so you just came across that so i'm not sure even how i stumbled across it because no one suggested into the hat this is my just uh yeah free choice yeah captain's pick is a way better way of phrasing it

what a great story and surprising that, we hadn't heard of him, that it's not sort of a well-known name because he sounds like the type of person that Australia loves to celebrate. Yeah, exactly. And I love his connections to like his Nellie Melbers, mate. She's on the $100 note. Kick off bloody Monash on the other side.

Yeah, fuck off Monash. Get off there, mate. O'Day, imagine a Melber and O'Dbourne road day back together again yeah that'd be nice next door neighbors as they should have been oh that would be lovely let's have a word and jfk somehow becoming a long-time admirer yeah isn't that wild yeah i just don't i don't quite understand how that would have even happened or if that's just he's got a pile of letters on his desk and it's like yeah can you sign these or like when you get a letter from the queen on your anniversary or something she means

she means they're from the heart she's like eddie and dorothy's anniversary is coming up i better remember to write him a card but maybe he was a fan of him being an office manager of a fashion firm that's true yeah he's like love your work oh my goodness your pants are fantastic just the best maybe you've really made a mark on Bob Hope's All-American announcements. Big fan of the announcements. Or maybe just heard of the fact that he kicked a ball 110 yards. Yeah, it must be, like, legendary. Yeah.

And the fact that he is an Irish guy, yeah. And surely you don't write, I'm a long-time admirer if you're full of shit. You'd say something else like... I've heard good things. I've heard good things. I've heard good things. Personally, I don't know who you are. Hey, good on ya. Happy birthday.

Bloody good on ya. Now, welcome to everyone's favourite section of the show where we get to thank a few of our great supporters. If you want to get involved, you can support us at dogoonpod.com or patreon.com slash dogoonpod. There's a bunch of different levels, all sorts of different rewards. What are some of the rewards you can get, Bob?

You get three bonus episodes a month. You get access to a newsletter that comes out sometimes. You get premier access to tickets to live shows. And you also get to be part of a beautiful Facebook group, a lovely community. So nice. So lovely. But yeah, lots of different perks. You also get shout outs, of a beautiful Facebook group, a lovely community. So nice. So lovely. But yeah, lots of different perks.

You also get shout outs, which we're going to do now. The first one on the Sydney Scheinberg level, get to a fact, quote or question section, which I think has a jingle that goes something like this. Fact, quote or question. Bing. Always remembers the ding. Now, to be involved in this,

you just sign up on the Sydney Scheinberg level. You give us a fact, a quote or a question. I'll read them out on the ding. Now, to be involved in this, you just sign up on the Sydney Schoenberg level. You give us a fact, a quote, or a question. I'll read them out on the show. I'll read them out for the first time when I read them out, which makes sense. There's no screening. No. You say it, I read it. He could read them ahead of time, and he won't.

I refuse to. Yeah. Because I think that would be letting down these great supporters. Exactly, yeah. They don't need to be censored, usually. The first one this week comes from David Loring. And I also, to quote a question, I also get to give themselves a title. David's given themselves the title of Chief Landscaper of the Grassy Knoll.

Oh. Very important job. Very high traffic area for tourism these days. You'd be pretty pissed off, actually, that that was the reason that Grassy Knoll was famous because you'd put so much work into the landscaping. And you're like, oh, okay. Yeah, no, sure, just come and see.

Don't ever look around at the landscaping or anything. Got that crisscross pattern. Yeah. No one noticed the flowers I imported from Africa. Okay. Those are quite rare and very high maintenance. Yeah. They're not even grass.

Sure, it's a knoll. Yeah. But it's a rosy knoll. And it's beautiful. That's what we used to call it. Before it got rebranded. Are they conspiracy theorists? What are they going to wreck next?

Anyway, David has given us a fact this week. David writes, There's a Romanian phrase that comes in handy when describing a tendency of weather that's handy for anyone in Melbourne and further south. It is Soiree Cudint. That's what the rough phonetics of the word is,

translates to sun with teeth and refers to a day that looks nice, a sunny day, clear blue skies, but it's still very cold and not nice to be outside in. Yeah. I would have thought sun with teeth would have meant like you are going to get burnt. Yeah. Yeah, high UV warning. Yeah. Yeah. I would have thought sun with teeth would have meant like, it's a, you are going to get burnt. Yeah. Yeah.

High UV warning. Yeah. Yeah. But I, yeah, they are, they're nasty days. The days where it looks beautiful. And when you're in the sun, it's nice. If you're, if you're planning a beer garden day or something like that, or any sort of outdoor activity.

Yeah. And you don't bring a jumper. Yeah. And you're caught. Oh man. Awful. Nasty. Not good. Won't make that mistake again. Yep. And you're caught. Oh, man. Awful. Nasty. Won't make that mistake again.

Yeah. What about cloud with teeth? That's when it looks overcast, but it is a high UV warning. Yeah, there. Because if you're out there for six hours, you're going to get burned anyway. Yeah. And you're like, I'll be fine. They're the biggest burning days.

Yeah. Yeah. But that's great. I love that. Sun with teeth. Soiree Coudint. I like that a lot. Thank you very much, David.

Next one comes from Tessa Chilcott, given themself the title of Contessa of Tessas. Oh, love that very much. Now, what does that translate to? What's a Contessa? A Contessa is like a count. Right. Oh, right. Love it. Contessa of Tessas. Right. Oh, right.

Love it. Contessa of tessas. And contessa, I mean tessa, has offered a fact as well. Writing, I just had my wisdom teeth removed. Huge drama, but that's another story. Because the dentists and other dental people have been so fascinated with the fact I still have one baby molar tooth no adult tooth to push it out i've been looking at teeth facts because of this apparently it's very common for adults to sometimes retain baby teeth not that i've become defensive uh it's actually very common

actually it's more common than you would think okay Okay, thank you for being self-aware. That is how it read a little. I know like four people, so. It's fine. I'm in a Facebook group. Anywho, my fact is this. Prior to 1960, people really thought that toothaches were caused by a tooth worm who lived in your gums. Yuck. Prior to 1960?

That's recent. For me, an old man. Yeah, that's like My grandpa would have Been in dental school In the 50s So was he being Taught that Yes

Wow That was one Did he ever warn you About the worm in your mouth He did say that a lot There was a whole unit About dental worms So if the worm

Was resting You had no pain They thought the worms Would enter the tooth Have a bit of a feast And then cause no end of issues What? Suppose it was how they explained

All the terrible teeth falling out of their mouths I'm ready to be done with teeth So thanks for keeping me company During this week from hell I saved up a few episodes to listen to While I was recovering Can't remember much Thanks to the painkillers Love those paink remember much. Thanks to the painkillers.

Love those painkillers. Jess, are you on painkillers? Right now. Is that your issue why you can't remember the episodes? Yes. Constantly on painkillers. But Tessa says, because of that, that means I'll enjoy listening again. Thanks heaps.

I'll shut up now. Thank you so much, Tessa. No need to shut up. Great fact. That's wild. Huge if true. Teeth are fucked. We had a story on Simple the Jest one time of a girl who,

I think it was genetic in her family. She essentially had this condition where she- Not genetic outside of her family. Sorry. She lost her baby teeth like three or four times. She had like multiple sets of baby teeth that would come through and then she'd lose all those. Cashing in with the tooth how traumatic is that yeah that's full-on i think she's like we're like are you is a if you've got more she's like i think i'm done like oh but

that's terrifying yeah that feels like a some sort of a a dental worm curse. Yeah. And I don't have enough teeth. Like, I think I have the amount that a child has when they're about eight. That's what I've got. Yeah, right. I don't have that many teeth. So, you never got the wisdoms? I've had them out. I was like, honestly, leave them in.

Yeah. I need them. Just for numbers. They all count. Yeah. Anyway, just a little them. Just for numbers. They all count. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah, right. Just a little fun fact there for you.

I don't know if I love teeth stuff. Nah, teeth. I hate teeth stuff. You know that, seeing like an x-ray where the teeth are above the other teeth? Don't love that. Anyway, you never say stuff like that on a podcast Because someone will definitely send me a photo now Yes I will Not our lovely listeners

Next one comes from Paul Mellor Great Saint supporter Paul Over in England I follow him on Twitter He also posts the nicest photos on his morning walks Always make me feel real nice Now Paul That's lovely

Has given himself the title of Lord Mellor of Mellor Manor. Oof. That's fun to say. That is fun to say. Lord Mellor of Mellor Manor. Lord Mellor of Mellor Manor. I enjoy that so much. Paul has asked a question.

Paul writes, I have a question inspired by Matt's recent Keen for Neen tweets. Oh, yeah. I recently tweeted about Neenish tarts. Yes. Which i didn't realize they're an australian thing seems like a c origin anyway maybe that's what where this is going uh paul asks what is your favorite tart or sweet baked treats paul has answered the question love that thank you paul okay so like okay Let's narrow it down Let's say country bakery Yes

You go on in What do you get Oh okay Pie obviously Obviously Obviously getting a pie I'm getting a Like a cheese and salad roll

Nothing better Than a bakery cheese and salad It does say Specifically sweet baked treat Yeah You're going to a sweet pie That's your meal Like there's always a dessert

Yeah come on We're washing it down I have to get a sweet treat When you're at a country bakery. I'm going to pasty. Lava pasty sauce. Yeah, yum. Yeah, pasty or, yeah, yum.

I'd be doing that or all this. No, I'm going to stick with my chicken salad. My cheese and salad, not chicken salad. Cheese and salad. Okay, desserts, Dave. Jelly slice. Oh, my mum makes a pretty good. I don't think I've ever had one of those.

Mum makes a pretty good jelly slice. Oh, I'd love to have it. Yeah, yum. I've gone through different phases. As a kid, I had a to have it. Yeah, yum. I've gone through different phases. As a kid, I had a Neenish tart every time. I remember the bakery in Kyneton, which doesn't exist anymore. I tried to go back to it on Piper Street, not there.

What a bummer. Yeah, it was a bit of a bummer. It was so good, like real strong nostalgia memories. But I've had a few Neenish tarts since, and they're pretty full on in terms of sweetness. And then I reckon for a while I loved a vanilla slice, loved it until someone called it a... Snot block. And I couldn't eat them anymore.

And then fruit flans for a little while, quite enjoyed. Now I'm probably, I don't know what, I don't have the biggest sweet tooth anymore, but probably a donut maybe. Yeah. Like a choc ice donut or something. Yeah. Like a choc-ice donut or something. Yeah, what else is there? Dad would always get lemon tarts. Oh, yeah, I love a lemon tart.

They're good. Jam tarts, lemon tart. Lemon tart, it's an older person thing. It's one of those classic, just want to taste something, and these taste full on. Oh, they are full on. Yeah. And it's such a strange texture now that I'm thinking about it,

but I'm also like salivating a little bit, like I want one. It wasn't because it's not like a custody kind of tart or like a baked tart. It's just like a lemon goo in a little pastry. It's really, fuck, delicious. Or maybe like a cinnamon donut. That's what I'd go for. Yeah, nice. What has Paul said?

Chally slice. I'll try. What has Paul said? Jelly slice. But if it has to be a tart, I love a Portuguese tart. It doesn't have to be a tart, yeah. Sorry, Dave, I am on painkillers. Paul writes, mine is a custard tart. It is my go-to tart when I fancy

a little treat. Not sure if these are just UK thing. We definitely have them. They have the feel of something that could have started over there though probably that is my dad's go-to uh close seconds uh strawberry tart or whimbery pie that sounds very good i haven't heard of that what is a whimbery pie do we have one of those uh and yeah i'm not sure what a strawberry tart would be but i guess it's just a strawberry version of a lemon tart beautiful because the tart was strawberry uh paul says keep up the great work you are on fire with blocktober this year at the time of writing the uh this we are patiently waiting to find out what is number

one all the best paul well hopefully you were satisfied i think countdowns of popular votes or any countdowns are always people are always gonna be like oh that was the number one yeah of course but the feedback's been really positive this year which I appreciate I think generally our listeners are lovely people and that is

probably why um thank you very much Paul have you have you seen a you're trying to find a Wimbery tart a Wimbery pie I've found one no my

computer's just shat itself an article here has there ever been a fruit with as many different names Wimbery, Winberry,

Winberry, Windberry, Bilberry, Winberry, Windberry, Bilberry, Hertelberry, Wartelberry. It's a... Hertelberry's amazing. It's a little purple.

Oh, that looks delicious. Inside. I was looking at an image. Oh, that looks lovely. Love the look of that, Paul. I'm very keen to try. Thank you very much, Paul. The final one this week comes from Gary J from the UK.

Ah, Gary. And Gary's given himself the title of the vice president of the fan club for the sister of the former president, Eunice Mary Kennedy. Great work, Eunice. Great work, Eunice. Love the name. Love your vibe. Love you.

Love everything about you. Love you, Eunice. And Gary J asks a question he writes just the way you say it is so cute I don't know how else you say it he writes uh I was wondering if any of you can speak another language or if you could learn a new one, which would it be? And Gary has gone on to answer the question, but do you want to answer before he does or read his out first? What's Gary's? Gary says, at the moment, me and Nat, my wife my wife my wife are trying to learn British sign language

just as a bit of fun I learned Makaton signing for children when I worked with kids it was really fun and rewarding teaching them to do it a little bit of a brag there because of course this section is now a fat quarter question brag or suggestion yeah course. You can add those at any time. Very similar to you, Gary. Last year I was learning Auslan, Australian Sign Language. It's very similar or it's got a lot of its history. It's rooted in British Sign Language. So I think it's like very similar or maybe even the same alphabet.

Some signs are very similar. But I'd like to get back into and do a bit more of that next year. A bit more Auslan. And, yeah, I learned a lot of Italian at school. So, I could comfortably tourist in Italy. That's good. I reckon. It'd be a lot of like I would say, hello, can I have that?

And beyond that, I'd be like, I'm so sorry, do you speak English? And they'd be like, oh, sorry you speak english and they'd be like oh yes and i figured you would need me too yeah i'll please you yeah i remember yeah being in a few different places and people being like maybe in france or like i i'll speak english yeah i remember i'm sitting down at a place in amsterdam with my friend i was traveling with and they just brought out Australian English menus. But said, g'day. G'day.

What do you want, Culber? Just a minute, like we just sat down. He hadn't said anything to us. He brought English menus. We're like, how do you know? And he's like, please. We're like, okay. He said, want to get a dingo up you?

Yeah. Just a couple of forsters, thanks. Dave? I would love to learn French because my partner speaks French and I feel left out. You're talking about Poirot? Poirot, yes. My hero, Poirot. The Belgians speak French?

Some do. Right. And is that, what's the go there in Belgium? They speak Flemish? Flemish. It's a beautiful name. Is there a Flemish tart? It feels like there probably is.

It sounds right. Doesn't that sound like something? That's a thing, isn't it? Surely that's a thing. Surely. Surely. If not, why not? Why not?

Let's make one. I think I did four years of Italian in high school, did two years of Mandarin in primary school. Oh, yeah. A couple of years of Indonesian in high school. Yeah. And I've retained very little of all of those. It's like, but it's at that formative time

where you surprise yourself. I remember being in Italy and somebody asking me a question and I knew what they meant. Oh, cool. But if you'd asked me here, how do you say that? I'd go, I have no idea. Right. Definitely I have like counting to 10,

I think I could do in those. But I, yeah, how handy is that? I guess, yeah, but I think just being good at any of those would be great. I'd love to get to, you know, casual speaking levels at least. And sign language is a great one. Like it's a really handy thing to know and definitely make somebody's day if you can communicate with them. And also, like, if you know the alphabet, you can get your way through anything. Yeah, right.

Just spell it out. Yeah. If you have to. It's not ideal. First, you have to learn the sign for Uno Memento. Yeah. And then a little patience, please. Yeah, cool.

That's a good question. Belgium has four linguistic areas. The French-speaking area, the Dutch-speaking area, the bilingual area of Brussels, the capital, and the German-speaking area. There you go. There's a Flemish Dutch as well. Cool.

And Flemish tarts, Dave? Oh, I'm wondering. Really thought that's what you were passionately Googling over there and said you're like, oh, languages. Relevant to the question. Flemish sugar tart recipe by... Oh, I thought it said your name. It says Martha Stewart. Close.

That is my name. Wait, what did you think my name was? You thought Matt Stewart had a very successful cooking blog? And a stint in prison. Guess how long it's going to take... Very successful stint in prison. Guess how long it's going to take you to make a Flemish sugar tart. How long?

A couple of minutes? Four hours, five minutes. Easy. Dave, a lot of that's just in the oven. It's like saying, you know how long it's going to take you to make a cake? A couple of hours. Well, it's doing a lot of the, it's in the oven and then it's cooling. Well, you could do a Steven Seagal on Under Siege 2

and despite being a cook, just put it in the microwave for 15 minutes. And he goes, and that's how you bake a cake and then someone jumps out of it no that's the first film that's number one yeah they love cake in that movie Jesus

very cake-ish motif yes oh but anyway that brings us to everyone's favourite section of the show still where we thank a few more

of our supporters Bob you normally come up with a game link to the topic at hand yeah we either give them a mascot or like a... Like a badger or a kangaroo, a live kangaroo. Like a sporting nickname, like the kicking kangaroo. What do you reckon?

I don't know. What's better? I reckon maybe, yeah, I reckon sporting nickname is fun. Sporting nickname. A literary sporting nickname. Yeah, preferably. An adjective or whatever and an animal. An adjective or whatever and an animal.

No, just the... Well, is kicking an adjective? No, it's a verb. No. Oh, I regret bringing this up. Dave, you read books. Well, kick, that's a verb. But kicking...

Yes, but a kicking kangaroo is an adjective. That's right. Thank you. I should never doubt myself Never ever Matt look at me Don't you doubt yourself Don't do it

Alright so first up From Oh address unknown Can only assume deep within the fortress of the moles I already know what animal this is Yes It is Jake B. Bush The mouldy mole Oh the mouldy mole Jake B. Bush. The Moldy Mole.

Oh, the Moldy Mole. Jake B. Moldy. Jake B. Moldy Mole. Moldy Mole. That's fun. Moldy? Moldy. Or should it be something else?

Mellow Mole. The Mellow Mole. Not a very good mascot, to be honest. Oh, wait. He's not a mascot. This is the... This is... This is the...

Okay. So, yeah. He's a very, like, chilled, relaxed player. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, he's a very like chilled, relaxed player. Yeah. Yeah. But effective white line fever. Oh yeah. Big time.

It doesn't matter. I think we're up to three 20. Is that right? No, we're up to three 21. Thank you so much. You were correct. Hey Dave, you're a dumb shit. Uh, thank you very much, Jake.

I'd also love to thank from nepean in ontario canada tara tara the something tiger titillating titillating tiger what does titillating mean it's exciting yeah yes wow and so tiger Yes. Wow. Titillating tiger. And so Tara is just like a very exciting player to watch. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. You never quite know what Tara's going to do. And it's a real challenge for the cheerleaders.

Yeah. To get it in. Titillating tiger. Yep. T, T, rah, rah. That sort of stuff. They fucking nailed it. Titillating tiger.

That was actually really easy. Dave's been watching Bring It On. I love it. And it's working. And finally from me, from Stratford-upon-Avon, I believe, is that deep within the fortress of Shakespeare? Yeah, the Shakespearean mole. In Warwickshire, Great Britain, it's Dominic Hood.

Dominic Hood. Dominic Hood. What's a hooded animal? Oh, yeah. The hooded fox no i'm thinking of the animated robin hood oh great fantastic yes fox in both oh my god meanings of the word that fox could get it uh filthy fox the filthy fox is a dirty player dominic the filthy fox hood oh i like that a lot you said like if needs the job done, no matter what, send in the Filthy Fox.

Love that. Dominic the Dominator, Filthy Fox Hood. Rah, rah. Jess, you want to thank a few? Absolutely, I do. I just, I got a bit scared then. You called me Jess and I was like, oh, I'm in trouble. Jessica?

Oh, no. Please. I would love to thank, from St Kilda in Victoria, Alex. Oh, a fun fact about St Kilda. What's that? They won their one and only premiership in 1966. Oh, well. Soon, they'll win number two.

Yeah, I believe it's coming up. Very soon. A great draft hall this year. Really exciting crop of young players. I would say that's going to happen in the next 60 years. Yeah, right. Oh, I will not be alive for that. But I would, oh, maybe I can hang on.

You might. I could. Oh, I would be pushing it. I mean, I've been around for so long now. I don't know if you'd really pay attention to the game. Yeah. What's that? Like we were talking about before,

I do somehow get that old man voice What have you actually got there dear? No I think we wouldn't belong here I think we should stay at home Anyway I would love to thank from Sekilda Alex Wavery Wavery sounds like it could be a tart Wavery tart

Yum That sounded sarcastic I meant that yum The tarty toad Yum The tarty toad Oh the tarty toad A slutty little toad The tarty toad I meant more tart like As in baked good like

Oh okay Delicious Yes delicious toad Yeah Sort of like Sort of nuggety I guess A pie

Sugary Sugary Sweet Sweet like a tart Sweet is a bit more positive Tarty toad That's nice sort of nuggety, I guess. A pie. Sugary. Sugary. Sweet. Sweet like a tart. Sweet is a bit more positive. Tarty toad. That's nice. Tarty toad.

I like that a lot. And I would also love to thank from Tu Wong in Queensland, Hannah. Hannah. Ooh. Hannah, the hell-raising... Hermit. Hound.

Hound. The Hermit Hound. That's good. Hell-raising Hermit Hound The Hermit Hound That's good Hell-Raising Hermit Hound Triple H they call her Yeah Triple H That's a new thing That's a new sporting name

That is untaken so far Dave Wrestling Man Is that right? That's right Triple H Hunter Helmsley I can't remember what the other H is for Oh there is another triple h isn't relevant at all um and finally for me i would love to thank from egan in i want to say

minnesota minnesota mn dave that feels right that feels so right there's so many m states though can you ever be sure and i keepting myself, but lately I've been better because we have a lot of American supporters. And so, anyway, back yourself, Jess. Back yourself. It is Minnesota, Jess. And that is where Sophie Morris is from. Thank you, Sophie.

Okay, Sophie, what kind of vibe am I getting from you? Maybe like an eel? Oh, yeah, electrifying eel. Yes. That's a pretty good nickname. That's great. She's like slick, can't quite catch her. Yeah, can't grab her, runs through with the ball.

Untackleable. Yeah, that's good. That's what you want to be. Yeah, running back who just gets, weaves through the field. She's a gymnast. A gymnast? Yeah, I was in my head. You can't get your hairs on her.

American footballers. They can be anything they want to be. People are trying to tackle her as she runs towards the pommel horse and they can't grab her. Which is the gymnast red zone, really, isn't it? I'd like to thank a few people. I'd like to thank from Nepean in Ontario in Canada. Another one.

Big thank you to Sam. Oh, Sam. Sam and Tara from the same place. Yeah, what are the odds of that? Two Nepeaners. And only giving us... Nepeanists. First names.

First names. Do you know each other? If you don't, you should. Okay, I'm getting... What kind of... I'm getting a zebra vibe Oh, zany Zany zebra

Or zany zebra That's good What's a zebra? ZZ, ZZ Sam Yeah, comes out on top On your double Z That's real good Puts the other players to sleep

Hey, I would like to thank now from Rotherham in Great Britain, Thomas Hill. Thomas Hill. Is that a Rotherham tart? Surely. Oh, it's got to be. They feel like they've got a tart for everything. Yeah, for every occasion, for every city. We should do a tart crawl one day.

That'd be great. Oh, my God. Yum. I can't move. I've had 84 tarts. I love Wombbat as a name. I think it's a great footballing thing. They can go real fast and they're nuggets and they can just plow through.

So, what's a... Whistling wombat. Oh, the whistling wombat. Oh, that's good. That's real good. You hear them coming. Just so nonchalant. Yeah.

Hear that wombat coming. Bang! No, hey, ain't nothing to me. Yeah. Oh, what's up? Just a little wombat. Just whistle while I work. That's a cute little wombat coming. Bang! No, ain't nothing to me. Yeah. Oh, what's up? Just a little wombat. Just whistle while I work. Just a cute little wombat.

I'm going to fuck you up. Thomas the Whistling Wombat Hill. That's really good. Big fan of that. Well done. And finally, I'd like to thank from Camberwell here in Victoria, Emmy Nottle. Oh.

Emmy? Fantastic name. Already amazing. Yeah. Then Nottle. Fucking hell, Emmy. That's so good. Yeah. Something, Emmy, I mean the award, the Emmy Award. Yeah. Then, not all. Fucking hell, Emmy. That's so good. Yeah, something, Emmy, I mean the award, the Emmy award.

Yeah. Is there any animal related to the Emmys, Dave? I'm trying to think of an Emmy. An, is there any, like, what's that, what was the famous TV or movie? Red Dog. Red Dog. Red Dog. Probably not Emmys But should have been

Is Emmys TV and movies? Yeah what about No that's gone Mr Ed Oh Mr Ed So the Horse Horny Horse

I was going to say Humping Horse Humping Horse The Horny Humping Horse The Horny at Triple H Oh That could be the other nickname The Triple H Because I don't think that The Horny Humping horse. Humping horse. The horny humping horse. The horny out Triple H. Oh, that could be the other nickname. The Triple H.

The horny humping horse. That hasn't come up yet. That hasn't come up, so. Emmy, how do you feel about that? Do you like that, Emmy? You can just go the horse if you wanted to. Yeah. Because that sounds badass.

The horse. It just sounds like she has a big dick. Yeah, the Sydney coach in the AFL's nickname is horse. Is it? Yeah. Why? Long face, I guess. I don't know.

Yeah, right. Sad. I assume big dick. Licks a lot of salt. Do not know for sure. I'm sure he's got a more G-rated backstory for it. Doubtful. Hey, I'd like to thank, one more time,

Amy, Thomas, Sam, Sophie, Hannah, Alex, Dominic, Tara, and Jake B. Bush. Well, that brings us to the final section of our great supporter shout out section, which is where we thank a few of our long term supporters who we're welcoming into the Triptych Club. It's just the two inductees this week. The way this works is we've got a club set up. It's a beautiful space. It's in your mind, but it's in the two inductees this week the way this works is we've got a club set up it's beautiful space it's in your mind but it's in our hearts as well and i'm standing on the door got the velvet rope i'm going to read out your name i'm holding the clipboard uh welcome you in dave's

a hot man he's standing on the stage everyone who's already inducted standing around cheering you on rah rah rah that sort of thing yeah jess is up on the stage with dave just keeping him feeling good because he's your hype man tonight. Thank you so much. Jess is Dave's hype. What would you refer to yourself as? A hype? Hype-y?

I want to be a hype man. Hype man? Just hype? Other hype? I think hype man has no gender. Back up hype man. I'm deciding now. I mean, you can be a hype man for just one person, I guess.

Of course you can. You're probably more of a hype man than Dave is. Dave's more like an MC, and you're the hype man. Yeah. Thank you so much. So, another thing that happens is Dave normally books a band. You're never going to believe it. Oh, my God.

What's happened? Obviously, I booked this one nine, ten months ago, looking back at the emails. And we are going to have an acoustic set from the Steve Miller band. Get out. Can you believe that? It's like, take your money and run. It's going to be so, so good.

What is he going to get on a big jet airliner? Yeah, exactly. Playing all the hits. This is crazy. Like, at some point, it's like you've got this, you're on such a hot streak. I know. But at some point, like, it's got to end, right? Like, how can you possibly got this, this, you're on such a hot streak. I know. But at some point, like it's got to end,

right? Like how can you possibly maintain this? Honestly, I don't know. Wow. Just incredible. While it's happening, it's so good.

Absolutely. Jess, have you got a kangaroo kicker cocktail for guests tonight? Absolutely. The kicker is cocaine. So it's sort of like a classic lip sip suck, but it's more of a snort sip suck No it's just in the drink

It's in the cocktail So I do have to limit it to one per person So it's more like Instead of a Jager bomb It's more like a cocaine bomb Correct It's kind of like the original Coca-Cola Yes that's right

But it's like a fun fruity cocktail It's blue Fruit tingle? Yeah it's like No it's blue Oh blue Do you have blue Caracara I'll put the crack in Fun, fruity cocktail. It's blue. Fruit tingle? Yeah, it's like... No, it's blue. Oh, blue. Like a... Do you have blue...

Caracara. Caracara. I'll put the crack in... Anyway. Yeah. And also, like, the food that we have is like... It's like an Australian but infused with American food because as an homage...

So, instead of it, it's like a Tadakun, but the duck is actually a duck-billed platypus stuffed inside a turkey. That sort of thing? No, I just meant we had like Jats and cheese and then also like American barbecue kind of thing. I'm just putting the cloche back down over my... I did not approve a platypus being shoved inside a turkey. Sorry, yeah.

Don't look up. Don't worry about... Matt, what's in that cloche? No, don't worry about that cloche. Nothing's there. I've truly misunderstood the MasterChef challenge. So just two inductees this week. Are you ready, Dave, to hype them up?

Let's do this. Let's go, Davey. Lift that rope. From Perth in Western Australia, it's Zeke. This week Are you ready Dave To hype them up Let's do this Let's go Davey Lift that rope From Perth In Western Australia It's Zeke Zeke feeling cheeky

Yes You cheeky boy And from West Hollywood In California In the United States It's Tess Ornstein Ornstein Tess Ornstein

Feeling Hornstein Yes For friendship Or Tess is best Yeah If you prefer the PG version Yeah both good Welcome in Tess and Zeke

So good to have you So to be in the Tribditch Club You've just got to be Signed up on the Shout out level Or above For three straight years

And you get in And you get to have Some coke apparently Yeah And I don't Only if you want it There's no pressure It's open bar

I can make it without the coke I can make it without the alcohol like it's up to you but like it's the it's the kangaroo kicker yeah like what am i supposed to do you can have a virgin kangaroo kicker what am i supposed to do just put like a tiny little plastic kangaroo on the side of your drink like it like it's a fucking garnish no i we've been doing this for a long time and i have to think of something different every time exactly you use something called kicker i've got to give it a kick don't i oh yeah i could put some tabasco in it get the fuck out bloody mary no and that brings to the end of the episode uh thank you so much for joining us for another week um yeah is there anything else we need to say before we go bopoppa? Just that you can find us on social media at DoGoOnPod. You can email us at DoGoOnPod at gmail.com.

Check out our website, DoGoOnPod.com. And, you know, be sure to bloody tune in. That's great. Tell your friends if you want to. Oh, my God. You know what you should do, actually? You can support us in all sorts of ways, really. Tell your friends.

Yeah. Not too much so then they're, like, not listening at a protest. Just make it like Real casual and cool Just be like As you're meeting a friend For coffee Just sort of have your

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Is what we're after And then of course Warn them yes It will be tedious at first Yes But you'll get used to them Yeah you do At first you're like

The fuck These guys are a bit much But then you understand will be tedious at first. Yes. But you'll get used to them. Yeah, you do. At first you're like, the fuck? These guys are a bit much. But then you understand that we're obvious friends. Yes. We'll win you over with our tedium. And I believe next week we'll be back with our annual Chris-mish special. Oh, I'm so excited.

Obviously, I think this is now maybe our seventh annual Christmas episode. So good. So if you want to do the run-up this week and listen to all the Christmas episodes, we've got you can listen to all the Christmas episodes. We've got one for every day of the week now. I love it. The seven days of Christmas.

My true love gave to me. I couldn't name like two of them. Maybe I'll go back and listen. Christmas Time Mysteries, part one. Yes. Christmas Time Mysteries, part two. Okay. Crampsus.

Crampsus. Santa Claus. The origin story. We did a three-part one in London one time where we talked about Michael Buble and The Stone of Scone Heist. And I did one about a town called Santa or Christmas or something. Yes, that's right. And I did one on the eggnog riot.

Oh, there was another one in London. Yeah. We've done two London cooking shows. And I talked about Die Hard. Yes, that's right. Okay, now I remember. Did I talk about the Westminster thing? Yeah.

Or something like that? It's all coming back to me now. Bloody hell, I feel like Celine Dion or whoever sang that song. Anyway, thanks so much for listening. Dave, boot it home, please. We'll be back next week with a Christmas special. But until then, thank you so much and goodbye see you later

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