Do Go On - 321 - The Kangaroo Kicker

Episode Date: December 15, 2021

This is the story of an Australian who went to the US and gained fame as (quote) “the greatest kicker who ever wore a shoe in America”, before mysteriously disappearing. This is the story of Pat O’Dea, The Kangaroo Kicker.Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: dogoonpod.com or patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Stream our 300th episode with extra quiz (and 16 other episodes with bonus content): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.afl.com.au/news/368629/he-took-american-football-by-storm-then-disappeared-the-kangaroo-kickerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_O%27Deahttps://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/s/australian-academy-prepares-punters-us-college-football-155738233--nfl.htmlhttps://footballfoundation.org/hof_search.aspx?hof=2107https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/odea-patrick-john-pat-11285https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/68131203 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenjai Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.

Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go One. My name is Dave Warnocky and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart.

Hello Dave, hello Matt. Hello, Dave. Hello, Jess. What a pleasure to be here inside the podcast. Yeah. And inside your ears listeners. Yeah. And we can't get out.

I'm in your phone. I'm in there. Let me out. I'm cursed. Until I make amends with all the friends. people I've heard I'm trapped in your phone. I'm playing bejeweled. And I know what you're Googling.

And it is yuck. It is hard to make it up to people I've wronged from inside your phone. Yeah, it's not the best position to be in in terms of making it up to people I've wronged, of which there are many. Yeah, it only happens. Occasionally, you'll leave me at a place of a person I've wronged. Yeah. And I vibrate.

And I get, br-wh-wh-phositive vibes. And they don't pick up and talk to me. But when you come back to the table, they're like, oh, someone's popular. And it's, no, they're not popular. You're yelling that. Why's your phone accusing you of not being popular? This is the phone of a loser.

Help me. I'm trapped, I say. When they say, what a hilarious ring time. This is my curse. Are you calling the listeners losers? Only the one whose phone I'm stuck in. Oh, okay. So whoever's listening right now.

Yes. Wow, you're the only one listening. That's sad for you and us. Yeah, when there's more people doing the podcast and listening to it, there's a ratio there. If we had three listeners. We'd be alright. We have one each.

Yeah, mine's Jeremy. Four, now we're cooking. Yeah. But two or one. Oh, boy, it's not good for us. We've really got to push those socials. Retweet, tell a friend. Three retweets.

Wow, they all liked it. that is good ratio but Dave I know you are better than anyone to explain how this podcast works well because I think probably I hold the record for explaining it more than anyone else but also being the worst at explaining it

I disagree someone who who's just been listening back from the start said you were pretty good at explaining it early oh I lost my way at some point you've lost your way well let me take you back to the start and tell you what we do here is we're taking in terms

to report on a topic often suggested to us by a listener. Anyone can suggest a topic and we usually give them a shout out. One of us takes that topic, goes away, does a bit of research, brings it back and then starts the report with a question because the other two have no idea

what the topic's going to be. Matt, you're in the big boy chair. I am, and I'm going to ask a question. Here it is. Which two sports did Darren Bennett, Matt McBryor, Savrocker and Ben Graham play? They all famously played two different sports that are at a high school,

or at a high level. Definitely, the only name I really recognize her is Sav Rocker. Same. And I think that he's a big booter of the AFL, the Aussie rules. So what else? And then maybe was he the one that they got over and said, hey, why don't you boot this NFL ball? That is correct. They all played Australian and American football.

Who are the other three names? Oh, so it was Darren Bennett. He's probably the most successful to cross over. He's in like the Chargers Hall of Fame now. He also played 100 games in Australia and the AFRA. Mac McBride didn't play in the AFL but went over and did really well for the Dallas Cowboys and a couple other teams. Savroka like you said, you've heard of him. He's famous over here.

But he, after his career in the AFL, he went over and played a few years in the NFL with some success. As did Ben Graham. Ben Graham went over when he was 32. He basically played a whole career in the AFL and went over and did really well in the NFL. It's a hard game to learn late. but punters just have to kick it far and sort of accurate. That's their whole job. How hard can it be?

Easy. I could do it in my sleep. Get me in there. Where do you want this ball? You tell me where you want it over there? Done. How far? How far?

Yeah, all right. What's my margin of error? None? All right. Easy. Just like to know. Just like to know so I can be better than the margin of error. No need.

If there was like a 5% margin, I'd do it. I'd stuff out one and 20 times. But I could do it right. every time I wanted. Yeah, but I'm just wanting to seem more human. Yeah. You know, so people don't say I was photoshopped. Yeah.

Is that a robot? You've got some sort of kicking machine out of there? No, I'm just a very good human. I've got a weird energy straight off the bat today, but I'm going to just write it. Well, this week's episode isn't about any of those people. Okay. Right. But it's about the first man who did both played at the highest level football in Australia

and then in America. The story about an Australian who went to the US and gained famed as, quote, the greatest kicker who ever wore a shoe in America. Okay, what about the shoeless kickers? Yeah, well, that's a different kettle fish. So like a Bruce Lee or something, like kicking the shit out of someone with barefoot.

Yeah, don't try and compare the two. Apples and oranges, mate. Before he mysteriously disappeared. This is the story of Paddo Day, the kangaroo kicker. Oh. Does that mean he played for the kangaroos or did he kick kangaroos? That was his nickname in America. Yeah, that sounds about right.

This guy kicks kangaroos. Australia. What do we know about him? Kangaroos, boomerangs, crocodile Dundee. Gid I might. That would have been well ahead of his time because he was over there in the late 1800s. What? So.

1800s? That's right. I forget footies that old. Bob Cobra. What do you think of that nickname? The kangaroo kicker. Yeah. Sounds like a serial killer?

Yeah. Sounds like he is kicking people to death. He is resting on his very strong tail. Yeah. And kicking with both feet. Using his talents to rip out your gullet or whatever. And he is kicking you off a cliff. My sound like that right?

Oh yeah. Is that what they do with their talents? Kangaroos are brutal. I know even at the zoo like you can walk through and you can like get quite close to them. And you see a lot of tourists doing that because kangaroos like amazing. But I'm always like walking quite quickly through that bit. I'm like, don't fuck me up, don't fuck me up, don't fuck me out, please. I think those places are normally pretty good at keeping the full badass kangal,

like the head guy or whatever. Yeah. But do you ever know for sure? What are they called? The Don. Are they the Don? It's not the Don. What's the name?

Are they the bull? No, they're the... But like the big red kangaroos. Yeah, the alpha dog. Those ones that literally look like a cartoon muscle kangaroo. Yeah, those ones that don't fuck with those. They've been working out on steroids. It's amazing.

They've got those like, little cute little like blue flies or like great little gray ones who were just like I'm just here eating some leaves and you're like oh so cute um but I'm still like I don't want to fuck with you yeah please I'm just going through it's the only way to get through to other exhibits I'm just trying to get through the zoo please I don't know why they make us walk through here why do they make me do this this should be optional yeah when they're standing with their pecks oh my god and their biceps are almost as big as well that's how big that they're jacked Almost.

I think you'd be a bit generous there to the kangaroos. Yeah, look, I didn't want to embarrass them. Yeah. It was cute. If they hit the gym a little more, I'm okay. But, you know. But let's be honest. Kangaroo kicker, what do you think of that, Dave?

I love it. Yeah, I thought you would. You love alliteration? Absolutely. The KKKKKKKKK is very good. Yeah. It's no cobra. I wouldn't.

I'm finally on board with cobra, by the way. Thank you. I think it suits me. I'm thinking of it as an ironic nickname. No irony there No or any no I think if you said Like what is a kangaroo kick

And known for Football would have been pretty low in my list I would have had to be really thinking Like what do you kick What are you kick Yeah I would have been getting RSPCA involved Yeah yeah yeah I would have been like okay

Serial killer because they always start With torturing animals Yeah It would have taken me a while to get to football So this is exciting All right well let me tell you about him His name Patrick John O'Day

We've got another John We were doing John's in block But Patrick John O'Day Was born March 16th, 1872 In the Victorian country town of Kilmore I've been there I've been there before I looked it up a bit

I got sidetracked a bit actually You always see this turn off to Kilmore Going down the Hume Yeah The road from Melbourne or Sydney And yeah But I didn't know much about I looked it up

And apparently it's not a big population 8,000 or something. Yeah, right. But I was looking into it, seeing if there are any other notable people who came from there. Apparently, Victoria's second premier, John O'Shanesey, was from there.

Oh, cool. And I found this great resource, which I guess is sort of like a political compendium or something. It's called Wikipedia.org. Oh, yeah. Oh. And according to that website, it says the, I mean,

this is a totally off topic already, but the Irish-born Catholic O'Shanacy was the bane of the Protestant establishment in Melbourne and the ensuring insuring sectarianism also affected those who lived in Kilmore. O'Shaughnessy supporters were referred to as O'Rowdies and O'Shaughnessy as the Routy King because he was Irish. Oh, rowdies.

Yeah. And they'd be depicted in like political cartoons as just like drunk Irishman and a rabble because he was a Catholic guy. Right, but it's obviously popular enough to be voted in as Premier. Well, I mean, this was before, apparently before there was like a party system in Victoria. So it was sort of, you'd get, he was popular enough in his electorate to make it. He actually, in this weird quirk was elected in Kilmore and in Melbourne. Ah.

And then he went, I'll represent Kilmore. And then Melbourne, his seat had to have a by-election. Is that weird? Very weird. Pretty haphazard system early on. Yeah. But then I guess he was just, you know, he had, he was a good enough politician to get enough. support to become Premier. But it was really unstable in the early days.

And I think in part because of the Irish Catholic versus English Protestant tensions and holding the Premier's office became a real tug of war. The first Premier was English-born William Clark Haynes in 1855. He held the office for a year and a bit. Then O'Shaughnessy took over for 50 days before Haynes wrestled back control for 316 days before O'Shaunice came back for another year and a half. This is literally wrestling in the back. Yeah. Then a couple of other guys came in between for about a year and a half.

And then O'Sanna's had his third and final stint for a year in 226 days. So I'm not interesting. I just like, I went down a little rabbit hole there. I'm like, that's strange. I'd never heard of our first or second premiere. No. Yeah, I didn't know. Which seems funny, especially because it was such a hectic kickoff to it all.

Anyway, so... Pardon the pun. So O'Day was born in Kilmore. He was the seventh child in a family of 11. Too many. If you got any questions in relation of that? I guess I just want to know, like, do they know what was causing it? I think back then they did not have the technology.

They're like, another one? What's going on here? There's something wrong with this woman. They're all going on. These humans inside of me. Cursed. Yeah. His parents were Patrick Flannery O'Day,

which has got to be one of the moron. Irish names out there. Beautiful. He was a squatter from Ireland and he worked at a flour mill and Johanna or Johanna knee Crosley who was Victorian born. So in 1880 the family moved to Melbourne after Pat's dad died at the age of 49. So he started going to school in suburbs of Melbourne and was playing Aussie rules football while I was there.

And those early days at home, he, kick around a homemade footballer's brother Andy made which was constructed from leather and a bull's bladder which I think is how a lot of old footies started out just like sheep's bladder or bull's bladder. Blow it up, tie it off. Gross. Have a bloody kick. But, you know, it was like they, there was no waste back then.

Yeah. At the end of you kick to kick, you've got a snack. Yeah. You got a bull's bladder. What do I don't want the blood is there? They're just snacking on them straight away. Yeah. Come on.

You want to kick her. your blood first. soften it up a bit. Earn your bloody lunch. You're going to earn your bladder. I've always said that. Earn your bladder. And your bladder.

Kids these days never earning their bladders. But of course Matt, you very early on in this podcast did a history of history of how Aussie rules football came about. So people are more interested in finding out about that. That's a very early episode. Yeah, I think it was my first ever report,

maybe episode two. Amazing. So, yeah, if you want to get the story, which would have been happening sort of alongside this story, definitely check that out. It's fascinating because I think we'll hear about a bit later, but the American game at this point was in pretty early stages and you could hardly recognise from what it's become. Yeah, right.

Which would be the same for Australian football. They all kind of, I think, there was a long time we opened episode two, talked about how they all vaguely came from a similar, like a similar sport. Maybe, was it in rugby college in England or something? I can't remember if I talked about it, but Mungrook footy, which I think is, it's better known now maybe than even six years ago whenever I were talking about then is also thought to be possibly, it's an indigenous sport which Aussie rules football is quite similar to and they think that its roots come from there as well. You don't say. Did I mention that at the time? No, no, no, no, no.

You're like, I remember episode two. No, God, no, I don't remember five minutes ago. Kangaroo kicker, I think, is what we're talking. talking about. So anyway, so he's kicking around this home mad bull's bladder footy. His brother Andy later claimed that an eight-year-old Pat was able to kick the ball 50 yards or about 45 metres. Easy.

And when he was 10, he could kick at 60 yards or 55 meters. Okay, yorn. Oh, sorry, yeah, 10-year-old, I guess that's in Brazil. Right, because right now, what's considered like a big kick on the AFL? There'd be AFL players who couldn't kick it that long, a 50s. Well, they should be fired. I agree. This 10-year-old can do it.

Get me in there. This 10-year-old in the 1800s could do it with a bull-flutter. Yeah. Apparently the first time that O'Day came to the public's attention was on January 3rd, 1888, when he risked his life to try and save a drowning woman. It was the middle of summer, and he was at Mordialik Beach when he saw that his friend's mum was struggling in the bay. It was 15 years of age.

He swam out, brought her back to shore. He didn't kick her back in. 55 metres. No, no worries lady. I'm not swimming that, but I can tell you what I can do. Get on my boot. He jumped up on a boy. He kicked her back.

She's like, can't we just have a rest on this boy? No. No. No, O'Day received a bronze medal for bravery from the Royal Humane Society. A bronze one? What? There was a silver at cold that day, was it? Also, this guy and this lady.

saved people a bit better. This lady actually saved three people at once. In world record time. Sorry, brother. You said an Australian record. And that woman was Dawn Fraser. Well, she's really old. She's very old, but an amazing swimmer.

O'Day was a star junior footballer and his long kicking as well as his goal kicking were prominent features of his game. At the age of 20, he was recruited by the Melbourne Football Club, who were then playing in the VFA, the Victorian Football Association. It's amazing that it took him to be 20 when at half that age he could kick better than probably all the other times. They wanted you to have a bit more life experience, right? Go on a gap year, mate, then come back, we'll talk about a contract. Leave a little, you've got to be a growth to do emotionally.

Let me play. Oh, please. We see you've got potential, mate, but we want you to live on. Yeah, come on, mate. Yeah, there's just like an old school roller coaster thing. You've got to be this high, mate. Sorry. You've got to be emotionally this mature.

You're going to go see the world. You know, go do Bali, do Thailand. You've been to Kilmore. You've been to Melbourne, but... Have you been to the Sunshine Coast? All the best players have been to the Sunshine Coast. Yeah, you've got to check out the sunny coast, man. It's gorgeous.

The beaches. You can save three people in a day. Man, you might get a gold then talk to us. That's right. Bronze. We don't see bronze around here. No. Fuck with bronze.

You would be familiar with the Melbourne Football Club, the oldest football club in Australia. They're also the 11th oldest football club in the world and the world's oldest now professional football club of any code apparently. Wow. That's interesting. Wow, so the other 10 just have faded away. Well, no, they're all amateur clubs, I think. Yeah. Amateur?

Doing it for the love. Yuck. Melbourne's also the reigning premiers in the AFL having broken a 57-year premiership drought this year. leaving the Saints with the longest current drought, having not one of the premiership since their inaugural 1966 premiership. I believe. I believe, too.

We will. I reckon it's just around the corner. There are AFLW players from Melbourne who live in this very building. Really? Yeah. Holy shit. They're also, I mean, they're one of the inaugural AFLW teams as well.

Wow. Do you hear I'm kicking? Yeah, I hear I'm kicking. Yeah. I hear him kicking all night long. And I say, keep out of girls. Sounds great. What kind of bladders are they kicking?

Yeah. And they say, can you shut up and keep your dog? We're trying to kick here. Can you stop stomping around because you're playing with your dog? No. Honestly, if you keep playing around with that dog, I say a little football inside of it. A little dog blotter. It's about right.

Yeah. They're going to kick my dog. And rightly so. You got to do what you're going to do to be number one. You kick my dog. No good. So anyway, O'Day played for Melbourne. He played well.

Back then they were known as the Red Legs, which I love. Right. Because of Melbourne Red Legs. Yeah, the demons now, but they used to be known as the Red legs. Red legs. Bit of fun. Okay. Writing for the Australian Dictionary of Biography, James Griffin writes,

he was described by the Australasian as a fleet wingman. His high marking and prodigious drop kicks, often accurate from any angle, made him one of the cracks. of the competition. I didn't understand a word of that. Wow. As in like this is great crack, that kind of Irish expression?

No, it's just like like, you know, like crack squad, one of the best, I guess. This is old timey language. Start that again. He's a fleet. He's a fleet wingman. So a wingman, they sit on the outside of the centre. Yeah, on the wings.

Okay. On the fleet. Oh, sorry. High, he was a high marker. Yes. Take big high marks. So that means, you do a specky? You do a specky.

That means catching the ball. Catching the ball. That's right. Sorry. And that way you get to have a kick. Yes. Sometimes you run up behind somebody else who's just standing around trying to also mark the ball and you run up and you jump on their back and then you mark it and they're like, come on.

I was trying to mark that one. I was in the right spot. And then the commentary goes, that's got to be the mark of a year. And the guy down below is like, I put myself in the right position. I had my hands ready in the marking position that mom taught me. Sometimes you get famous for being that person, though. I know Tizam wrote a song, one of the famous big speckies ever was Alex Jesolenko. Yeah.

Commentator said... Gisolenko, you beauty! Exactly in the 1970, Grandpa, I think it was. Is that 1970? And then, so the guy he jumped on was Collingwood's Graham Jerker Jenkins. Oof. And Tizam wrote a song called The Back on which Jezer jumped. That's very good.

Jerker Jenkins. That's crazy that that was in the 70s and it is still... Still in the vernacular or whatever. As somebody who was born in 1990, who has never paid that much attention to footy for that to just be in my brain. Yeah, that is wild, isn't it? That's weird, isn't it? That's good commentary.

And I was just yelling Jezolenko and then you sort of nodded like, and the other bit, and I was like, oh, yes, of course. You beauty. You beauty. But in fairness to Dezolenko, it is pretty easy to jump on someone's back when they are bent over jerking it. So I imagine it's why he got that nickname And honestly, like, give the men some privacy

Come on, mate. Obviously, it's not the best spot to be jerking. Yeah, on the MCG on Grandfalon. But, you know, emotions run high. Exactly, you need to relax. You've got to like, you know, you've got to get that energy out somehow. Do you think of horniness as an emotion? Is it not?

The number one emotion. Is it not an emotion? What is horniness if not an emotion? You would know this, Matt. Is there, as a player, do they feel is there a sense of shame if someone specky's on top of you is it a bit like oh no let them jump on me i think it was i think it's just bad luck because you know you're putting yourself in a in a spot there which is actually a pretty brave thing you're probably backing into a pack yeah yeah

so he's like i'm actually the bravest guy out there so they do end up copping but i imagine from you know you see the mark of the year they'll be joking you see like commentators now who had speckies taken over them in their playing days. Those clips will get played. You know, ha ha, hey, you're a step ladder, weren't you? That sort of thing. But how can you avoid it? They get behind you and you're just doing your job of standing there

trying to get the ball and somebody jumps all over you and you're the fool? How ridiculous. Very silly. Fragile masculinity at it again. You don't get them the AFLW. They say, oh, do you want to piggyback? Jump on, my friend. You want to get it?

Your turn. Very supportive competition. It's a game of piggybacks. Women. I don't think it gets to quite that level, but they, off the field, I don't think they're ever like sucked in. Yeah. There was a post recently of, I think one of the clubs was the Eagles, West Coast,

lent their training equipment to some crows players who were stuck because of quarantine. So they, like, delivered gym equipment to their accommodation, like a different club. It just, there's a real, it does feel like a whole different level of community in the AFLW. Right, but hiding inside that gym equipment was an army. Yeah. They popped out and killed them in their sleep. It was a Trojan horse.

The Trojan treadmill. Yeah. Okay, so yeah, so O'Day, one of the cracks of the competition. Yes, yeah. Which I believe to be a positive. Sentence, we all understood. Like, reading it back, it is, it's like, there's a lot of lingo in there. Yeah.

And some of it outdated. I did our listeners a big favour in. asking for questions. You did. Thank you so much for that. Thank you. on a tangent.

I pretended I knew. Just nodded. Great crack. See, that's fragile muscular. I felt like I'd been marked on. By words. Words. Thanks to screamer.

Words is the only thing that would even look at you and think it could handle me specking off the back of you. You would be dead. If someone tried to specky off you that you'd be dead. Anyone ever been speckyed today? I'm picturing like a loon. tunes you're like the you know they become the human accordion

walking off oh no that's what happens Jezolenko he's so small what are you Ben Rob that's how that would go

so football writer Ben Collins wrote a great feature article about O'Day which I linked to it in the show notes this was the article that brought my attention to his story and I think it's super well known

I try to find if there was another podcast about this topic, but it seems like there hasn't been, which is weird, because he was like, you know, in terms of football, in America and Australia, very influential, apparently, as I'll tell you about. Exciting. But anyway, so Collins wrote this article, and I'll read from it here, the red legs capitalised on his versatility using the 183 centimetre player's unique skills at either end and on a wing.

It's about my heart. So it's like, it'd be quite short as a footballer now. but I think back then that's a tall player. And also he's at either end and on the wing. So he's everywhere. He's everywhere. That's right. Though fast and capable of taking acrobatic marks, O'Day was remembered for his prodigious kicking.

He did a backflip, catch it. Hit the ground. Not a slip. You're like, I can't get this guy. What's happening? It's honestly ridiculous. Is this illegal? He's going from one end to the other on a trapeze.

What's going on? I can't get him. I just don't think. think they're allowed dirt bikes out there. Is that in the rule? It's not not in the rule. He played for the Melbourne crusty demons. That's very good.

But he, so it was particularly known for his drop kick. He could kick a really long drop kick, which doesn't exist in the game anymore. But when the drop punt took over from it. The drop kick was, you're basically kicking it, I think, as the ball hits the ground, whereas a drop punt now you kick it before the ball hits the ground. Right. But I think you can. A drop kick would go further than a drop punt, but it's a lot less accurate.

Is it still allowed? Still allowed, but people, yeah, I don't think anyone's done in a game for like, it may be in my lifetime. Bring it back. Yeah, bring it back. I'd love to see it brought back. And maybe while we're at it, stop my brother from calling me a drop kick all the time. Can we take it out of my family's, like, vocabulary and just put it back on the field where it belongs?

I'd prefer to be called a drop punt. Yeah. Sorry, what? Oh, that's fine. Yeah, that's okay. Thank you. Rhyming slang? No, no.

No, no. He was abnormally long-legged and long-legged? Long-legged. Abnormally long-legged, and he attributed much of his power to his eye-catching follow-through in which his right kicking leg extended well above his head, while his left foot rose about 20 centimetres off the turf. So you can sort of picture him, it's sort of... A real Taylor Harris.

Oh, yeah. Exactly, yeah. I think Taylor Harris is the modern day kicking kangaroo. Yeah. No kangaroo kicker. The modern day O day. Yeah. The modern O day.

That's beautiful. That's actually very nice. Things are just falling in our lap today. Today's so easy. So easy. This podcast has been so easy. It's been a dream. Do you want to mean?

All right. So easy. We are, this podcast is standing there and we are just jumping all over its back. We are specking all over this podcast. We're expecting this podcast today. Yeah. In 1894, O'Day was named as an emergency for the Victorian team and was instrumental in Melbourne finishing runner-up.

So he's not quite hitting the full heights, but he's doing great work. While O'Day was kicking goals on the field, he wasn't quite as successful off it. Apparently, he was keen to study law at Melbourne University at that point, a relatively new institution, having been founded in 1853. Unfortunately, he failed the entrance exam on each of his three attempts. Couldn't spell law. How's he selling it? L-O-A.

Yeah. He's like, I just want to talk about dragons and stuff. So can I come in? And they're like, no. No. You want a Bachelor of Law. This is the Bachelor of Law. Yeah, that's what I want, a Bachelor of Law.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Have you seen how long my legs are? Let me. I'll stun the jury With my long legs Objection, Your Honour He's got really long legs It's distracting

So at the same point His older brother Andy was travelling overseas Not only was Andy A handy homemade football maker Andy Andy He was also a decent sportsman himself And was travelling as a trainer For the Australian heavyweight boxing champion

Paddy Slavin Slavin trained under the father of Australian boxing. This is another small rabbit hole that went down. His name was Larry Foley, who also trained Boxing Hall of Famer Peter Jackson, the only Canadian-born World Heavyweight Boxing champion Tommy Burns, and British boxer Bob Fitzsimmons, who was boxing's first three-division world champion.

Wow, amazing that Peter Jackson could direct those films and make suits, as well as box. As well as Box. He could do it all. What a go. How long has this guy been in a lot? And write that great jingle. Peter Jackson.

I'm going to show you, I mean, obviously this is an audio medium, but what are you picturing? Boxer from the late 1800s. Let me show you Paddy Slaven. Is he wearing a suit? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, of course. Stick them up.

Yeah. Put them up. Hey, hey. That's a poster that would be in like a pub or something. Yeah. You know, like it would be like a vintage poster. And you'd be like, I don't know. that guy is.

Patty's Levin, that's who it is. Right. Yeah, no one has known who it is for many decades. Yeah,

he looks like it's like on a cult draft. Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. But he's got the

mustache, thick mustache with a little twirl at the end. I wouldn't want to mess with him. No. He's got the build of like a tough kangaroo

if that helps listeners, picture him a bit better. I'll post a photo of him at some point on the social media. But yeah, he's like, he was the Australian champion

and went toe to toe with Peter Jackson a few times. Wow. I'm trying to research the kangaroo kicker and all of a sudden I'm looking into the history of boxing. Yeah. There's a lot going on in this story. Anyway, Andy O'Day traveled with Slaven

as he toured England and then to the United States of America. Whoa. At the end of the tour, Andy ended up staying in America and was appointed as rowing coach at the University of Wisconsin. So this guy could do it all. He's just good at all sports? I think he's just good at everything, yeah. I hate those people, to be honest.

His rig just must have been so sick. They went, you can do whatever you want. Sick rig. My God, look at that sick rig. Oh my goodness. You want a row? You want a box? You want a row?

What do you want to do? You can have it. You're my wife? You want this house? Yours. Look at that rig. A rig. A rig like that.

It's mesmerizing. I'd be a shame to not let that rig have this house. I can live with myself. Despite Andy telling his little brother, Pat to stay back home, Pat arrived unannounced at the University of Wisconsin in Madison. Stay away. Don't. Let me have this.

No. No. I'm the kangaroo kicker. Yeah. As yet. Yeah. Not nickname, but soon to be. I'm the soon to be kangaroo kicker.

How do you? I again got distracted when I was going through the University of Wisconsin Madison's notable alum section, of which Pat O'Day is one. Oh, yeah. But others on the list include the job. Joker, the Smoker, the Midnight Toker, Steve Miller. Oh my goodness. Some people, you might know him as Maurice, but that, um, wamp-wh-wow isn't the case.

Uh, also, uh, alum there was nevermind producer and garbage drummer, Butch Vig. Airplane directors, the Zucker brothers. Milo from the descendants. That wasn't where he went to college, but he studied there later. Uh, astronaut Laurel Clark and previous report topic, Charles Lindberg. Oh. I hadn't heard of the university, but apparently it's one of the many big, famous American universities, I guess. Geez, they love to study.

God, they love to learn over there. And the whole college system makes a lot of sense and is good for everyone. Well, that's good news. I don't know much about it, but that is reassuring. Not a lot of upfront costs, which I think is great. That is good. Love that. It's really good.

University costs are on your mind at the moment for some reason. Big old tax bill, that's why. Going back to do your PhD. Yeah, I'm going, yes, that's why. I'm going to do my PhD. Pretty hot dog. I'm going to go do my... Anyway, um...

You're going to go eat a pretty hot dog. A pretty hot dog. Yeah? Yeah, that's right. Onions? Um, mustard. But it's like aesthetically pleasing. Yeah, it's beautiful.

It's like it was drawn in a cartoon. It's a really pretty hot dog and I'm going to eat it. And you're borrowing money from the government to eat it. Yes. It's an expensive pretty hot dog. I learned. Recently, have I said to this to you before, the term hot dog came from an American cartoon, like a guy in a strip cartoon in the newspaper where it was just like a cartoon of a dog in a bun or something.

It was called a hot dog and then it just caught on from there. Isn't that weird? That is weird. I love that. I'm always like, where did that come from? Hot dog. Apparently a cartoon. Some sort of little joke that I don't know if it translates now.

I don't know if I mean. Why? Because why would that picture make sense if the term hot dog didn't already exist? Yeah. Do they just call them? What do they call them? Hoties. Yes, they were, they were like vina, whatever they were called.

VAT verse and all that sort of. Yeah, right. And then they put like a dog in there and went, that was pretty funny. Look, look at this hot dog. Although, I've just, I mean, I've just done a quick Google. And this says, originally US college slang probably influenced by a popular belief that the sausages contain dog meat, which makes more sense to me.

Right, then I can see why a cartoonist would... And then maybe the cartoon came in after that and popularized... Do a parody of that being like, oh yeah, that sausage eating is actually no. So that was a popular food even when people thought it had dog meat in it. I mean, I don't understand people drawing the line, but I won't eat... I won't eat a dog meat. I'll happily eat a goat or something. Like, you know, what's the difference between a goat and a dog to you?

Hey, don't look at me. I don't eat meat. Oh, there we go. I'll answer this one. You'd eat either, wouldn't you? I would not eat a dog unless it was hot. Get a dog up here, dude. Would you eat a cat?

No. I think largely poisonous meat, I believe. Okay. All right. That was a test. Thank you. Would you eat a polar bear? No, I believe they're endangered.

Dave, I'm back on this great. Also, I think if you eat their liver, you get a lot of pleasure. It's a great resource called Wikipedia.org that I think I mentioned before. Thanks so much. It says, in Germany, the consumption of dog meat was common in Saxony, Silesia, Anhalt and Bavaria during the 19th and 20th centuries. Oh no, that's my family lineage. So maybe it makes sense. The suspicion that sausages contained dog meat was occasionally justified.

Oh. An early use of the term hot dog In reference to the sausage meat appears in the Evansville, Indiana Daily Courier in 1884 Ever the innocent Vinaverse I don't know what I'm doing with the V-Sand Wienerwurst man

will be barred from dispensing hot dog on the street corner Was that the caption of the cartoon? Yeah, I don't know Have I been on here? Here's a cartoon here from anyway this is a side track

that's not required a cartoon by Tad check it out if you want to Tad from 1916 but we are off topic so yeah we're talking about

O'Day he's arrived to visit his brother at the University of Wisconsin in Madison I wonder if we've got any listeners from University of Wisconsin so he was sort of settling in there

at his brother's union just for a visit. He went out for a kick of the footy, and according to Collins, when the wannabe lawyer had a casual kick of the American ball on campus, it caused such a commotion among all-struck onlookers that he thought he'd committed a public offense.

You've kicked it too far. Arrest that boy. The university's football coach was so impressed that the 24-year-old Australian was swiftly offered a chance to study law on the condition he also joined the football squad. You kicked that ball real far. I want to be a lawyer?

Yes, that's exactly what I would be. Yeah, that works out well, actually. I mean, they still do that now, don't they? Offering scholarships to someone just because they're really good in sport. Yeah, that's, yeah. But, like, it's funny that, like, Melbourne uni didn't take him up on that. Obviously, the sport, Melbourne uni, sport isn't as a high priority, maybe. But, like, American colleges and football and stuff's huge.

Yeah, and it was particularly huge at the time because the NFL was still decades away from being formed. And at the time, college football was the game's elite level. Wow. So this is a big deal. He's basically signed to the top level because someone saw him have a kick in the park. For a game, he's never played. In a country, he's never been in. He's just briefly been there.

And he's just going outside for a kick. A very normal thing for like young Australian men to do especially, nice day, go kick the footie. Yeah. And now he's got, he's going to college. for a law degree. I feel terrible for the current kicker though. Oh no! I've trained my whole life for this

and then he just casually kicks it twice as far. Yeah. And he's like, is that good in this game? Oh, I wasn't trying. Oh, sorry, I'm a bit rusty. Just got off a plane. Probably got off a boat. Have you got any bladders I can practice on?

So Pat became a student at UW and a member of their football team. Go Badgers. Go Badgers. You might assume that they are called the badges because badges are endemic to the error, something like that, but apparently not, at least according to Wikipedia.org, which says the team's nickname originates in the early history of Wisconsin. In the 1820s and 1830s, prospectors came to the state looking for minerals, primarily lead. Without shelter in the winter, the miners had to live like badges in tunnels burrowed into the hillsides. So that's where they get the name from.

Go badges. Go badgers. Go badgers. Go back to your hole badges. I went down another quick rabbit hole reading about their mascot. Badger hole. Oh, sorry. How offensive.

Oh, dear. Apologies to any UW listeners. Rabbit hole, how dare you? Apparently, their mascots named Buckingham U. Badger, or Bucky Badger for short. Okay. I hate that. I like it. I didn't like Buckingham, but Bucky Bage.

Buckey Batch. That's fun. That's all right. the only thing I really want to talk to you about is portraying the badger. You know, the job you're in the suit at the games and whatever. Love it. It's an unpaid student position. Of course.

But apparently the audition part is grueling. This is according to that great resource, Wikipedia.org once again. Tryouts include tests of dancing skills, expressiveness in suit, ability to work with props, and the number of push-ups a candidate can do, as well as an interview and the ability to write and perform an original skit. What? In the suit? I guess so.

Yeah, it's pointless having an expressive face. So you've got to be expressive in suit. Are they doing lots of push-ups in the suit? Apparently, I think when they score, the team scores after a certain amount of push-ups. Oh, okay. And I saw there was someone held some record of doing more than a thousand one game. Bucky Badge.

Because they scored so much. Did they stop the whole game? Just push-ups the whole time? In a suit like that, be sweating your ass off. It's an unpaid position, but will you get a scholarship to do law? Apparently, no scholarship or anything as well. The fuck is a point. Obviously, the glory of being Bucky Batch.

I mean, your faces, if you're doing it for the fame. Like, you go to a local bar and all the men and women, you can pick up. It's like, you know, Bucky Badge? That's me in that suit. Oh, my goodness. Maybe like, Barkeep, settle my tab. I'm taking this man home. You're taking Bucky home?

The tab's on me. Yeah. Hey, no charge. Or fighting over to pay for Bucky's tab. Bucky. The Bucky team, so I think a few different people at any one time are playing Bucky, they attend a mascot training camp every year in August. And they perform throughout the year, including at athletic events,

but also at ceremonies, parades, festivals, weddings, and even the occasional funeral. Weddings and funerals. I'm putting this on the record. I do not want Bucky at my funeral. Okay. Even if he's written a particularly good skit. I would prefer to see the skit ahead of time to determine whether or not. I'll leave that up to you if you think it is a good enough skit to be performed at my funeral.

Have you seen the Twitter account? Is it Twitter or Instagram? There's an account that's sporting mascots at Minut Silences. So you know they've got this, they've normally got this big grin plaster on their face? The rest of the team are sort of lined up in a row with their heads down and the mascots of the end

Grud and looking like a psycho That's really funny And now a minute of push-ups That's what they would have wanted How many push-ups could you do? In a minute No, I mean just like, I mean It wasn't a timed thing for the Bucky trial

Yeah, I've been over a few hours Yeah, that's true You never said there was a time limit You wait for me, I'm just catching my breath I've done one so far. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

I didn't say stop. You, I didn't say stop the count. If you wanted me to do like a heap of them in a minute, maybe you should have been a little clearer. But it's too late for that. I've started my way. Yeah. I've done a push up.

Now I'm writing a skit. Yeah. Okay. I'm doing a little dance while I write. I can multitask. I'm collecting props. There's a lot of things we've got to do and I'm showing you that I can do more. I'm so busy.

It's not easy. Be. Bucking. You're not actually Bucky yet. Wow. Well, we'll see. Well, I've legally changed my name, so. It's going to be embarrassing if you don't.

For you. It's going to be embarrassing for you if you don't. Give me this part. Did you know this? In 2006, Bucky was inducted into the Mascot Hall of Fame's college division. Yeah, of course I knew that. Great work, Bucking. Did you know this?

There's a mascot Hall of Fame. Anyway, so that's, sorry, another sidetrack. But let's get back to Padio Day. So when he arrived at UW, is UW? Is UW shorter than University of Wisconsin to say? Yes, it is. Great.

Glad I figured that out in real time. When O'Day arrived at UW. And is it, is Madison? Madison, yeah. Is that same James Madison that everything else is named after? Yeah, it must be, I assume. God, he's just throwing his name everywhere. Come on, mad dog.

Peele, peel, peel, peel. I think this is... Square Gardens Avenue, University Place. This guy... That's ridiculous. Don't call me baby. So I think Madison is like the key campus for UW. Udub.

Udub. Oh, that's even better. That's way better. I only asked about if it was briefer because, you know, WWW is, takes longer to say than World Wide Web. I had that in my head. That's fun. Don't worry, we'll shorten it to three letters.

Oh, easy. WWW. Anyway, so when he arrived, The Badgers had only been playing football for a few years. They played their first games in 1889, losing them both. So they only played two games. They played two games in their first year, yeah. Okay.

But they played more as time went on. And they improved over the following years, but it seems O'Day's arrival heralded a mini golden age for the Badgers. His arrival coincided with the formation of the Big Ten conference in 1896, when Wisconsin became the first ever conference champion. with seven wins, one loss and one tie. Griffin writes, The kicking kangaroos punts and drops electrified the Midwest fans

and changed the emphasis of gridiron from bone-crushing power plays to cleaner ball handling and frequent kicking. So, yeah, it was quite a different game back then, according to Collins, though, I'll mention that shortly, but according to Collins, O'Day, almost didn't even make it onto the field. One afternoon, in April 1896,

he trained with Andy's rowing crew, and both of them were lucky to escape with their lives when a squall swamped their boats. A squall. A squall. I don't know where they're rowing. What's a squirrel? Isn't like a, that's like a storm. You're trying to say squirrel?

Whenever you say you're trying to say, I'm like, oh my whole world's about to turn upside down. Isn't it a squall's like a... I just don't know. I've never heard that. Isn't it like some sort of like a sea storm or something? I don't know the big definite definition, but it sounds nasty.

It doesn't sound good at all. Yeah, when I think of rowing, I'm picturing like on a very pleasant river or lake. Yeah, on a very pleasant man-made river. Yeah. So Pat was clinging to both his vessel but also a crewmate who couldn't swim. Oh, shit. And you're on the rowing team. Yeah.

That feels like you should probably know how to swim. Not victim blaming, just saying maybe. be a little more comfy around water. I mean, the fact that a, someone who tries out to be the mascot has to do a skit, has to do all of these push-ups, but the rowing person doesn't know how to swim. I can sit on water.

Maybe more, you're more motivated to be a fast rower and get back to land, you know? Yeah, that's true, actually, yep. You're terrified the whole time. Ah, ah, it's everywhere. Use that. Use that energy.

The faster you row, the faster you will be back on land. Okay. Use that energy. Which energy? the terror or the horniness? Because I am rock hard. I don't want to get out of the canoe because people will know.

This is one of those inappropriate rifts before someone does. Oh no. Through sheer exhaustion in the cold water O'Day, eventually lost his grip and the other row are drowned. That's awful. Okay, we did not know that. No. Obviously, no, you didn't.

I did and I enabled you. also learned to swim. A rescue party finally arrived after two hours. Understandably, the traumatic experience discouraged O'Day from rowing and he focused more on football after that. After his first game of college football, O'Day suffered a broken arm at practice. He got injured a bit. It was like, you know, a real slim gym and it was in a pretty brutal game, even back then,

I believe. But in his first game back, he caused a sensation at the Chicago game. Coliseum indoor stadium when he rocketed a punt kick that became stuck in the roof beams. Whoa. That's awesome. Yeah. It doesn't seem ideal. No, it's a pain in the butt.

It'd be hard to do. Yeah. So not only only had one ball. Yeah. Oh, great. Fucking out. Anybody got a bladder? Anyone got a ladder?

Pretty big ladder, admittedly. O'Day quickly adapted to the American Code, which in its formative years, perfectly suited his skills. Forward passes weren't yet legalised, so the game more resembled rugby. Now the quarterback, big part of the game is a throwing game. Back then you couldn't do that. So kicking was the way to move the ball forward, apparently.

And you know how now you're saying, as a kicker, like Sab Rocker goes over there, just kicks, it doesn't do anything else. At the time, is he still in the scrums and being... Yeah, he was playing full back, so he had a much more active role. Wow. Hence the broken arm.

that's fair and also different to now back then field goals were worth five points and touchdowns only four points so okay it was really valuable his his skills were really valuable they're now they're now worth uh three points for a field goal and six points for a touchdown right uh and a touchdown you get a shot you get to kick a conversion or whatever i don't know what they call them after that but you get to kick a goal giving you seven probably seven points usually I don't think if you'd ask me how many points is a touchdown, I don't think I would have known. I would have been guessing.

Yeah, I mean, I've been watching a lot of it recently and I probably wouldn't have put my life on the line either. Well, you've been watching a lot but drinking a lot at the same time. I've also, mainly I've been watching. Because the games, it's normally like a weird time to be drinking, but just on Thanksgiving Day a few weeks back, I happened to have a massive bender. while the games were all.

And then tragically, you weren't able to make our live podcast when we screened The Mummy, which you can hear on Patreon. So instead we had to sub in, amazingly, we're able to book the writer slash director of the mummy Stephen Summers. Matt, you would have loved to meet him. He would have loved him, yeah. He was a lot of fun. He knew a lot.

A bit of a loose unit. I listened back a little bit and couldn't listen to too much because for some reason it made me cringe. But it was funny how much he sounded like me. It is interesting, actually. Because I thought, because he's from Indiana, he kept saying. Yeah. After like seemingly looking at his phone or something to double check.

Yeah. It was weird. Lots of pauses before he remembered his own name. Yeah. Strange guy. But a boon for the podcast to have him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of fun.

So that's phrasing the bar on Patreon. A great get for us. Yeah. So obviously your loss. Yeah, no, I shudder not to be able to get there. But it was a fun day of the way. So, yeah. So he's kicking goals on the field now.

as a kicker he could dominate the American ball was also rounder back then less pointy I guess because it wasn't a throwing ball as much more bladder like more bladder like it was more similar to an Australian football at the time so it was more conducive to drop kicking yeah in his four years at UW O'Day was a revelation and became captain in his final two years so he went straight to the top there according to Collins he smashed all of the games kicking records producing extraordinary efforts of precision and power with drop kicks, punts and place kicks from his quote, educated toe.

That toe, that's got a tertiary education. Yeah, with honours. Yeah. Now that toe could get into Melbourne year anymore. Yeah. Okay. Come back to us when your toe wants to sit the exam. Honestly, it's often the way that, you know, in Australia,

you've got to go overseas to prove yourself before you get respect back home. It's absolutely true. It's really disappointing. Tall poppy syndrome. Really ruining it for a lot of toes. I remember that happened with Madison Avenue. They had to get that big hit.

Don't call me baby. And then we were like ours. Yeah. Yeah? Madison Avenue, ours. They're ours. One of ours. New Zealand, ours.

They did well overseas. Yeah, New Zealand's doing pretty well. O'S. We'll take them. Anything from New Zealand. We'll take it. The Badgers fullback O'Day became the most dangerous player in the game. Oh, he's got a knife.

Yeah. Knife on the field. Yeah, it wasn't until he got over there that they outlawed. They're like, we didn't think we need to put them in the rules. But apparently we do, because there's this weird Australia with a knife. You said that with the same sort of tone you would say, bird in the classroom. There's a bird in the classroom. Knife on the field!

I like that there's a special tone for bird in the classroom. Oh, yeah. Try to think about the other day. Sorry to derail here. But you know, like, the phrase fucking hell. It sounds silly the way I just said it, doesn't it? Yeah. Because in Australia it has its own melody.

Right. Fucking hell. Yeah. Or even like, fuck and al. And it's also, it's a fuck, not a fuck. Fucking. But like everybody's like, fucking hell. That sounds ridiculous.

It's a fucking hell, you know? That sounds classy and beautiful, I think. Oh, fucking hell. Could picture maybe Poirot-Rozoff side of saying it. Yeah. I say, fucking hell. Hastings would never. Good Lord.

Good Lord. Look at her, Poirot. He's a real perv. I say. Wow. Hastings. He's always been taken in by the beautiful woman who sometimes it's the Kellogg. Hastings, you stupid bitch.

He's a little silly, sometimes. But. But very brave when needed. He's written into the show, right? So Poirre has someone who explain things to. Yeah, it's exposition. Yeah. Is that right?

Yeah. Yeah, for idiots like you. It's for dummies. Like us, right? Yeah, like you. So it becomes the most dangerous player in the game, both for his knife, but also his big kicking. He launched the longest known ever drop kicked field goal with a 62-yard bomb on the run in a blizzard. None of it.

Which sounds impossible. Blizzard, I understood. So he's got a knife and then he's got a bomb. Oh my God. This guy's taking it to the next level. He's unhinged. He's a terrorist. Yeah.

Like we're talking about this guy like he's a hero. He is unhinged. To kick an accurate 62 yard running drop kick. So that's over 50 meters. Yeah, 56.7 apparently. And the longest ever then or still? Well, the way this is written, it feels like it's the longest record. I think because they don't really, they don't do running drop kicks anymore.

anymore so probably not super relevant now but to kick it through the blizzard accurately of that distance that's amazing that's incredible on the run like i'd be likely to make contact with the ball on the run but i'm also not a professional footballer in any sense yet yet i'm trying to educate that toe but it just won't listen i currently have a bruise on my ankle here oh jess that's a tattoo Oh shit I was going to say It's in the shape of satin How cool is that

That's just from kicking a soccer ball For my dog And kicking it incorrectly Ow And I've got a massive bruise on my leg Was it in a blizzard? Yeah That's why I brought this up

You know Because you're like I wouldn't even make contact with my foot I would But like not the right part Of my body But something would make contact With that ball

No accuracy of course But But at least you make contact. Yeah, it easily went 62. Yeah, it was just sideways. Yeah. O'Day believed his greatest goal, which has been hailed as, quote, the most impressive, the most imprompt, which has been hailed as, quote, the most impossible kick in football history,

was a match winning 55-yard or 50-meter place kick into a howling crosswind. As he lined up, the referee said he was crazy for even considering it. The ref's like, mate, you're wasting your time. What are you doing? Let's get, you can't kick it, let's go. As if, as if you can do it. It's not wasting more time. Got a cup of tea over there waiting for me.

Once he even roosted a punt kick that sailed with wind assistance, 110 yards, the full length of the field, over 100 metres. And he roosted it. He roosted it. That means kick it big. Wow. It means kick it with your dick. No, that's rooted it.

Watch me root this ball. It was said that O'Day could curve a football as pitchers curve a baseball and hit a five-yard target at 80 metres. Like he could just make the ball move. Wow. He could bend it like Beckham. He could bend it like Beckham exactly. Wow.

Is that what they said? That's what they said. And people are like, who's Beckham? He hasn't been invented yet. He was like foretold. Yes. When he came along. Yeah.

Beckham was foretold. One day, Beckham, number. seven will come a lot. Collins goes on to say that it's little wonder that the father of American football, Walter Camp, selected O'Day in the All-American teams of 1898 and 99. He was the first Western States player to achieve the honor. Camp declared the Aussie, quote,

put the foot in football and also put the spring in Springfield. It was suggested in a half-page newspaper cartoon that O'Day his right leg could become as iconic as the right arm of world champion boxer John Boston Strongboy Sullivan so that I mean that says it all doesn't it yeah well say no more that is absolutely report over absolutely nominative determinism yeah strong boy became a boxer yeah yeah Boston Strong Boy that's his middle name amazing well that's a great strong boy that's one of my favorite ever nicknames do you want me to call you Boston strong boy yeah could you Yeah, BS for short.

Boston Strong Bunn. Strong bun. Strong buns. You should have strong buns. I have strong buns. Watch me bun this ball. Like Poirot, I can carry a coin. Wedge between my buttock, a heavy coin.

So these exploits led him to receiving the nickname the Kangaroo Kicker. Right. Which I think hasn't settled in now. Oh, big fan. I still think he's a serial killer. I think that's a twist that's coming that I've probably ruined by nailing it. There is a twist that, yeah.

I like it. It's definitely like a low-level criminal, but I don't know if that's allegedly, maybe. The people loved him writing poems and songs in his honour, leading up to an 1898 Thanksgiving Day game against Michigan. One of them, one of the songs included O Pat O'Day, which was sung to the popular tune at the time, Marjorie. And it went, oh, I couldn't find the original song, so I don't know the tune. I'll just talk out some of these. Oh, Paso Day.

Yes. The balls, the balls are kicking. It goes, O Pat O' Day, O'Pato Day. We love you more and more. O'Pato Day, O'Pato Day, you're the boy that we adore. Your leg is ever sure and true and always kicks a goal or two. the team and routers worship you O Pat O Pat O'Day Wow that's the dream to have the Routers worship

Oh yeah you want the Routes on your side That's for sure I wonder is that still an American term I wonder Routers It's beautiful That's so beautiful So beautiful Imagine having the Routers worship you

That's a dream come true Not only did he have a super boot O'Day was also super quick Using his pace to return A kickoff for a 90-yard touchdown In an 1899 game So he's also run the length of the field basically to score a touchdown. And in that same game, he also kicked four field goals.

He was a freak. Wow. It's a wild idea watching the modern game. The kickers will come all the punters, two different roles now. I think he was sort of doing them all as well as being on the field in general play. But in the modern game, a kicker or the punter will kick and then go off the ground. Go off and have a smoke. Going off, yeah, I'd probably have a nap.

Have an orange. And that's the role, the punters is the role that most Australians go over to play. Because I guess we just learn a kick from a young age and that's just, I guess most American kids aren't going, I want to be that bit part player on the team. Yeah. Oh man, that's a dream. You get paid millions of dollars to kick and then sit down. Yeah.

That is a dream. No one's like crushing you. Yeah. A 180 kilo man isn't jumping on top of you. This is fantastic news. There was a play that made the news a little bit a few years ago when one of the Australian punters made a tackle after he kicked and people are like, they don't normally do that.

He's like, oh, I used to play a game where you did all the bits. That's really funny. He wasn't even wearing the pads. He didn't have shoes on. He'd actually been off the field. He was just putting his little eye mask on for his nap and he thought, oh, I could get him. So he did.

He tackled a striker. They're these security woosters couldn't get him. Yeah, that is. There's a number of instances where an Australian sports person on the field tackled a streaker. Or like there's that time when there was a striker in a cricket game and the batsman hit him in the nads with his bat. Or that time when the pig was on the field and that Sydney player tackled it.

Yeah, that's right. That'd make a great compilation. Yeah, beautiful. And but also over the top of it, you have to be playing like waltzing material or something. And it's one of those videos you watch when you're overseas and you're a bit homesick. And just, yeah, just the commentary and stuff, cut together becomes our new national answer. Yeah, well, it's so beautiful. God bless us.

My culture. So he wasn't only quick on the football field, though. He was also on the athletics team at the university as a hurdler. and at one point held the 300 meter hurdles world record. What? Is he studying law as well? And he's also studying law at the same time. This guy's ridiculous.

Amazing. So like I said before, it was relatively slim for a footballer and that led to him being frequently injured as he was also a big weapon so the other teams would target him physically as well. This physical threat led to an emotional plea from his old Melbourne neighbor,

none other than famed opera singer Dame Nellie Melba. What? He just lived next door to it. Yeah, they were just Melbourne neighbours growing up. She lived in Melbourne? Well, this is, yeah, I didn't really realise that either, but this is what was written about the time. This physical threat to his well-being

led to an emotional plea from his former neighbour in Melbourne, the famous singer Dame Nellie Melbourne. According to Collins, when the prominent pair met up after one of her shows in Chicago, It was reported that Melba sought by every means to secure his promise that he would never again risk his laugh and limb in that game. She called the brutal football game you were playing here in America. That brutal football game.

Melbourne was born Helen Porter Mitchell and apparently took her, took on the pseudonym Melbourne as a shortening of her hometown of Melbourne. I didn't realize it. It seems obvious now. I just thought it was a weird coincidence. Yeah, that's nice. Melba's face is on the Australian $100 bill

I think we might have even talked about this briefly last week yeah and I did not know Dave Nellie was on the 100 I don't see a lot of 100 No I don't see a lot of money Obviously I know

Sir John Monash is on the other side Because I only use I know it's really annoying When we're just buying a copy He keeps doing it Fucking hell mate Can you put it on card or something You don't have any coins

It's $4 dollars You're like nope He pulls out his little money clip What do you do with the challenge change then for the hondo. Throw it in the bin. Hey, let's play a fun little game. Whenever you use a hondo and you've got all that pesky change, give it to me.

Well, you can get it out of the bin, man. Call me the bin. That's my nickname. Call my wallet the bin. But you know, calling them hindoes, I reckon we should be calling them melbers. Yeah, that's way better. Making melbers. They talk about spending Benjamins or something in America.

Making melbers. Making melbers. I feel like that could be something. I'll only set you back a couple of Melba's. Yeah. That's good. That's real good. Let's start that.

I think we should start it. Tweet it. Your tweets are always, A, taken as they're intended. And B, viral. Oh, yeah. Got 100% success rate. Big virality on Twitter. Yeah.

And yeah, just people just getting it. Yeah. Just understanding irony, understanding joke. Very obvious jokes, obviously. That's why they get it so easily. It is fun when people discover sort of a level of irony in what I've said. I'm like, oh yeah, thank you for pointing that out. That was not built in.

This was an incredibly genuine thought I had that I thought I'd share. But it's so funny that you've picked up on some irony that was not intentional. I think of that very much. Anyway, so today, not only dominant athlete, he was also a bit of a heartthrob on campus. Oh, my God. Day by day. But by night. Obey.

Sounds a bit creepy, actually. Apparently, UW students called him a handsome, congenial, carefree individual with a flair for the unusual, which I don't, what does that mean? Oh, what's he doing? He's into some kinky shit. Yeah. Missionary.

Yeah, he calls it, yeah, old school. In Wisconsin, that scene is very... That's quirky. Yeah. Because it, because it's like, it's, there's not that much info on him online. A lot of it is similar stories, you know, across multiple sources. It seems like the most in-depth one is the one I've been quoting from mainly, the Collins one. But, yeah, I love the idea that he has a flare for the unusual and that it's very unclear what that means.

This is another bit of art that was written about. It was a poem that was published in the 1900 University Yearbook. The grandstand is a howling mass. The lines are crowded thick. Now, Senta makes a clever pass when Pat goes back to kick. Unerringly, the pigskin flies above the gold cross sticks. The rooters, rah-ras, rend the skies when Pat goes back to kick. Are the ruders?

Routers. Big fan of ruders. The root is rah-rahs. Ra, rah, rah. Is that what they're... Yeah. Ra, ra, Rasputin. Lava of the Russian queen.

I think that's one of the big cultural differences between America and Australia. They'll kick a pig skin, we kick a bull's bladder. Yeah. You know, at the end of the day, we all put our pants on one leg at a time. We're not so different.

When his college career ended following his graduation from UW I was going to stop playing for them Because you're not a student there anymore Okay He should have watched Van Wilder Just pick up a few extra little units or whatever You can hang around for ages And Van Wilder stars whom

I think he plays himself Matt famously Jeremy Jackson Cannot remember Is that anyone Jeremy Jackson is No No that's no one

You think you have Joshua Jackson? Sure. Because not him either. Okay. Oh, James Vanderbeek. It's James Vanderbeek. Yes, it is. Yes.

Hearts Rob James Zanderbeck. Yeah. A lot of guy. God, he's good. He's very good. Also plays Deadpool. Yes, that's right. Yes, he does.

He's very good, James Van der Beek. I love James Van der Beek. What a great range. From Van Wilder all the way up to Deadpool. I love what I love about him, he's always kind of the same guy. Sometimes he's wearing a superhero costume. Yeah. Sometimes he's not James Vanderbeek

But generally big fan of James Vanderbeg's work In those two films and others Two guys are a girl on a pizza place Not one of his classics Yeah, not the good one of James Vanderbeek So his college career ended This isn't Vanderbeek anymore I know he did play in Varsity Blues

He was also played this game But I'm talking about I'm talking about patio day After he left University of Wisconsin and he became the non-playing coach of Notre Dame. Are you saying that right, Dave? Oh, yeah, absolutely nailed it.

Non-playing coach. Yes. Are there playing coaches? Yeah, I think it may be more so back then, but in the, in Aussie rules, there was playing coaches until not that long ago. Really? Yeah, maybe up until maybe there was one in the 80s,

but it was pretty common before that. And in suburban foot, you'll still get it a bit. A playing coach. Yeah. How do you, I mean, well, what better place to coach from? That's right. Right in someone's face. Timmo, I said...

Kick it to me. Remember, rule number one. Figured to me. So is there, would there be a playing coach and a captain still? Yeah, I want... Imagine his captain coach, right? Power dynamic is all over the place there. Yeah, that's true.

But the captain said to do this, well, I'm the coach. Captain doesn't mean shit. If I'm out here, Timo, say, you'll kick it to me. No, sorry, Rep. We're having a chat here. It won't be a moment. You kick it to me, Timmy. Well, I'm also the ref.

And the bar managers. If you want to fucking beer after the game, you'll kick it to me. You'll kick it to me. I don't care that you've got a clean shot. I don't care that I don't. I don't care that I'm 80 metres in the other direction. Kick it backwards. I don't care that I'm not on the pitch right now.

You will kick it to me. It's a really menacing guy. These are not mad. Are you getting an insight into what I'll be like as a coach slash parent? Any sort of power? Well, it's been given a small amount of power. And look, can I just last parent, you're saying to your kid, kick it to me? Kick it to me.

But, mum, this is under seven. I will kill you if you don't kick it to me. Too far. Okay. Well, no. Good to know where our line is. Kill you when we play a call of duty later. Yeah.

I think threatening kids with that kind of wants to motivate. I don't know what that's going to cause lifelong issues, is it? Give me a. Right. Kids are too soft. So anyway, he's the non-playing coach of Notre Dame. Nordame. One of the old-time great...

Butchering of the language. Well, how do the French say it? Notre Dame. Notre Dame. Okay. Notre Dame. I'm going to split the difference. No, I think...

Notre Dame. Notre Dame. I think one of the classic film puns, if this is a pun, the quarterback of Notre Dame. Instead of the hunchback of Notre Dame. Is that right? Yeah. Oh, is that a hunchback thing?

Yeah. What's the punchback? What's the hunchback of Notre Dame? Yeah. So instead of a hunchback of Notre Dame. The quarterback of Notre Dame. I like that. Bit of fun.

That is a bit of fun. That's great work. Like a straight-to-TV kind of film. You didn't know the hunchback of Notre Dame? No, I don't know the quarterback of Notre Dame. I reckon it got funding as soon as they just put the name for it on a piece of paper, sit across the table. I said how much you want.

I'm going to double it. There you go. You want 10 mil? Fucking have 50. I don't have no maths. I don't even care. Have this. Go.

Go. Make it. Leave my office. If you can get JTT or someone like that who I reckon would have started in it because it was like a mid-90s kind of film. Yeah, ATT's in there. So while he was there coaching, the team's mascot was a live kangaroo, which would bound up and down the...

No fucking way. I don't like that. Did they audition them? Yeah. How many push-ups can they do? It wrote an amazing sketch. Oh, beautiful sketch. It was thought-provoking.

It was funny. It was poignant. And the callback at the end? Wrapping it all together. Oh my God. It was so nuanced. Yeah. So it's running up and down the side.

Is it like fenced in? Is it hopping in a fenced area? Or can just enter the crowd if it felt like it? Yeah. I thought, I mean, they can bounce. What are that fucking rabbit? They don't hop. Good.

keeping him in a, you know, fenced in anywhere. Even at the zoo. We have to walk through their enclosure. They used to try and put them in their own thing, but they can't. They just kick the bars out. Piyo! So his coaching record that year was really strong. Four name wins, two losses, two ties.

Very good record. But his time with Notre Dame ended in really strange circumstances. Again, I haven't got any, I haven't been able to qualify this. anywhere else. But see if you can make sense of this. According to Collins, before the final game in 1901, he mysteriously decided to play for the opposition. He's a non-playing coach for Notre Dame, but instead, for some reason, the last game of the year, he played for the professional South Bend Studebakers who they were playing against that week. He then incurred the wrath of his new teammates when they suffered an upset defeat after being baffled by Notre Dame's

tactical moves. So he played for the position and lost. What? And then his new teammates hated him because his coaching was so good of the team that he wasn't playing for. It's baffling. And that's strange. His team that he coaches is presumably also mad at him for going to the other team?

Yeah, they sacked him. Not surprising. Do you think this is like, here's what I think's happened. You guys have seen dodge ball? Yeah. I think. Dive, duck, dodge, dive. Dug.

Rippedorn. Amazing. I think what it is is like he's been blackmailed. Oh, okay. I said, you'll come play with us. And he's like, okay, I'll come play with you. I can't guarantee a win. My teams are very good.

He's winking whenever he says it. Yeah, I'll play with you. I'll play with you. And then he's just like sipping a cup of tea on the side. He's like, well, I'm on the field. I'm playing with you. I'm here. I'm ready for a ball if you want to head it my way.

He's like playing with you. Oh, where I come from, that means sort of messing with you. That's what I'm doing. I'm playing with you. Oh, I'm playing with you. And he's still winking. It's all very confusing. I think he's been blackmailed.

You think that they've said, play for us or the kangaroo gets it. I think they've said, we have got very incriminating sketches of you. I don't know if cameras are around. And we will release him. So he had a dominant season on his coach and then was sacked because he did this weird thing playing for the other team. It's so weird. So strange. What an odd thing to do.

And we like, yeah, it's so long ago we don't have any insight into why. Yeah, there'd be all sorts of articles about it now that you could read. Other than blackmail, so I'm still standing by that. So after that, he coached Missouri for a season in 902. He had a winning season there, but moved on again. It's starting to think, is he a nightmare or something? Why is he not hanging on to these jobs? But he was so loved at UW.

Loved him, loved him. He then became football coach and athletics director at the American School. of osteopathy, osteopathy, maybe. Right. Which sounds pretty prestigious as a sporting school, I'm sure. But it seems he may have lied on his resume, saying he'd graduated with a Bachelor of Arts from Monash, from Melbourne University in 1893,

which obviously he didn't do. This led to him being sacked again, and this proved to be the end of his involvement in top flight football. After this, he went to San Francisco and is said to have helped popularize Australian rules football, In the US, there's a participation sport by training San Fran school children in the kicking game. And they had this weird new game that was called like field kicking or something, field football or something. Field kicking.

What you do is you go out in them fields. And there's an old article that I was reading where I think it was an Australian article saying there was going to be a shipment of American school kids from San Francisco kind of come over and play against Aussie kids in. in some sort of version of that game. And that was all helped set up by him. But from there, he disappeared from public view, seemingly vanishing in a thin air around the time of World War I. According to Griffin, a futile worldwide search reaching to Australia was made. But obviously, being futile, they just couldn't find him.

He just sort of disappeared off the face of the earth. It's easier to do that back then, wasn't it? Yeah, I'd say a lot easier. Yeah, yeah. Now I just track my, just look at my Instagram. Oh, there she is. You're like, dumb ass. Here I'm, don't tell anyone, I'm disappeared.

Don't tell anyone, but this is my address. And I've changed my name. People's best guess was that he joined an Australian army regiment and was killed somewhere in France, which is what his brother believed. Decades passed. And then... Like, a family would be notified usually of people's death.

Yeah, you'd think so. Unless he'd like. sign up under a different name. That's true. Why would he do that? What's he hiding? Who's got something on him? Is that black males happen again?

Yeah, I reckon black males happen again. A war has blackmailed him. So, yeah, decades are gone by. In 1934, plans were hatched to create a memorial in his honour. This is like, you know, pushing 20 years since he was last seen. According to Collins, though, Around this time, San Francisco Chronicle sports writer Bill Lesser had received a tip off that O'Day was living in a small town of Westwood, deep in the Sierra Nevada Mountains in north-eastern California. Then 62, O'Day had been living there for 15 years under the assumed name of Charles J. Mitchell.

What? He took Charles from his younger brother's name and Mitchell from Dame Nellie Melba's real name, original name. and he was working as a clerk or a clerk for a lumber company. News of O'Day's secret life was a bombshell, creating breathless headlines across two continents. Breathless headlines. O'Day found. How are they spelling that?

It's amazing. In Madison, it even overshadowed the arrest of the kidnapper of Lindberg's baby. It overshadowed that. Apparently. The crime of the century. in Madison. Wow. Wow.

Which is where Lindbergh went to you. Yeah. Obviously he didn't make enough of a mark while he was there. Not like the kangaroo kicker. He had plenty of marks. O'Day claimed his football fame had been a handicap in business as it was all anyone wanted to talk to him about. He's like, I just want to be a lawyer or be a business guy.

But everyone's just like, oh man, remember when you kick that ball real good? good. He's like, I just want to... It's like, of course I remember I was there. I was there. Now let's talk litigation.

Let's talk business. Let's talk brass tax. I thought like a bunch of like ex VFL people often become like good salesmen because they go around to like the tire yard and everyone's like, oh my God. Yeah.

Sav Rock is here. Everyone wants to get talked to him and then... Oh, anyway, while I'm here, boys, do you want to buy a few of these? Yeah. That'll mean I get his mobile number on his car. Oh, sick.

Sav. You give him a couple of stories from the good old days And they go, yeah, yeah, great, great, we'll sign up Yeah, that is true, that would be here My other sales rap hasn't fucking fucking played shit The fucking fuck I mean, he's like, incredible salesman Gets me a great deal

But he's not interesting for me to tell other people about I want to say that I've got O'Day's personal mobile number I don't even care if it is a work phone Which sits in a drawer And you will ignore I need to know I can contact you. This is what O'Day said at the time.

I wanted to get away from what seemed to me to be all in the past. As Pat O'Day, I seemed to be very much just an ex-Wisconsin football player. I was very happy as Mitchell for a while. Later, I often found it rather unpleasant not to be the man I actually am. So I'm going to be Pat O'Day for the rest of my life. Perhaps I should never have been anything else. So he was just saying it was just business. He just wanted to, he just wanted to disappear a bit.

you know, become anonymous again for a while. However, there were probably more sinister motives for a day self-imposed exile. Uh-oh. In 1919, he'd been charged with embezzling $3,000 and stock valued at $1,500 from a client and was due to appear before a grand jury in San Francisco. But then he went missing. Okay. It could be a coincidence.

It's business. Yeah. I was sick of being recognized by people wanting me to go to court. It's giving me affidavits. Yeah. I was like, oh my God, leave me alone. Are you Patrick O'Day? Well, you've been summons.

Yeah. Oh, here we go. Sick of it. Oh, I remember when you kicked good. Oh, see you in court on Wednesday. It's exhausting. I just want to go live in the mountains. I just want to live in the mountains.

I just want to be a businessman. Apparently running away from the charge didn't seem to make any big dent on his reentry in a society's Pat O'Day. With the public welcoming him, with the public welcoming him back with open. In arms, according to Collins, the born againo day was completely unprepared for his overwhelming reception from the sporting public. He received a rapturous welcome on his homecoming to UW. People pack the streets for a glimpse of the legend, greeting him with, quote, lusty cheers and singing. Lusty. Woo, hoo!

We both like shimmies. A bit of gyration going on. Oh, ha, ha. Rah, ra. Lusty cheers. That's funny. The man of the moment, who was always referred to by the US media as former Australian rugby star, which is not true. Not correct.

Revelled in the adulation, as he would for the last three decades of his life. According to Griffin, after his re-emergence, he returned to San Francisco where he joined an export business. His last occupation was as office manager for a clothing firm. where people are just going getting selfies buying a couple of shirts Yeah bought a shirt

Put a shirt for my day Can you believe it? In 1952 America's greatest football hero Was given a testimonial banquet By Wisconsin alumni He'd applaud the loss Of kicking skills

In contemporary gridiron Saying, The boys don't follow through enough In his view Australian rules football Was the better game It allowed players More spectator appear

With its faster action Okay Very different games. It's funny how people go, it's just classic sort of nostalgia. Yeah. It's better when I played it. Of course. People talk about, like, people talk about footy all the time like that.

People who are like in their 30s and 40s. They're like, it's best in the 90s. Like, it's like from, you know, professional sports journalists to people around the pub. Yeah. So many people talk like that. It's like, I reckon the kids of today disagree. Yeah. You're watching an old game.

It's like, oh, this is a bit of a man. Yeah. They're great things about it, but it's changed. It's just funny. It's like, you reckon it's anything to do with when you were just a kid and football was more magical to you? You had a lot more time to just watch sport. Yeah. Now you can only do that at the sacrifice of other boring tasks.

I know people will be yelling at their iPod and hour going, no, it was better in the 90s. And definitely there were some things about it that were better in the 90s. Don't get me wrong. But when you're saying everything was better when you were about. 15 to 18, then it's a, yeah, it's probably a little bit of nostalgia and that being an adult is sometimes hard and tedious. Yes. It was great when, I mean, you used to kick more goals back then.

That was pretty good. Yep. But you watch it and it is just like sometimes it's just the ball bouncing backwards and forwards. They say the skills aren't as good now, but I reckon they're definitely better now. Heats and stuff was way worse. Yeah. Back then too. Heaps worse.

Bring back to beer. Honestly, bring back to beer. Can't even knock people out behind. on the play anymore. Can't even coward punch anymore. You don't have to have a second job anymore, isn't that weird? Yeah.

Get to focus full time on the game. Oh, these bloody footy players today with their, oh, I'm getting a massage on my muscles. I finished a footy game and went to work in the mine. I butchered Monday to Friday. I had a kick on a Saturday. Okay. And you know what I did to recover?

Had a beer. Had a smoke and a pie at a half a time. Smoking a pie, a beer and a root. And honestly, the skills were just much more professional back then. We knew more about the body back then. O'Day had famous admirers right until the end. Being invited on to Bob Hope's All-American Football Team announcement shows. What is that?

There must have just been like a weekly show or maybe a yearly show where they'd announced the team of the year or something. Again, I could not find much more information. I love it. Interesting. But according to Collins, among the, this is the thing I'm going to finish with,

links back to a recent topic. According to Collins, among the hundreds of people to send 90th birthday wishes to O'Day in March of 1962, were then President John F. Kennedy, whose note opened with as a fellow son of Aaron

and longtime admirer, which is interesting because he wasn't born when O'Day played. So, yeah, Wow. That sort of says how big his legend was back then. Yeah. Even though it doesn't,

I mean, had you heard of it? I hadn't heard of it. And it's like we should have. We should have. It seems like we really should have, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's strange.

It's a real sporting legend. And we love sporting legends here. I know, isn't that weird? Yeah. I assume son of Aaron means son of Irish people. Yeah. Is Aaron, is it Ireland land of Aaron or something? How's that spelled?

E-R-I-N, apparently. No, that's not, I mean, that's not island in Irish. No. But I'm guessing it's, yeah. That's something, yeah, because they both are kids of Irish people. Yeah. Are they both Catholics? Yeah, I think, oh, probably.

It seems like Kilmore was a real Catholic sort of place. Yeah. Sounds like it. People up in the big smoke, I hated it when that Catholic girl was premier. But that was interesting because that made me think of that as well, because JFK, you said one of his biggest hurdles to become president, was that he was an Irish Catholic. Absolutely.

And yeah, it's funny that that was a problem in Melbourne as well. I just, I don't think I was ever aware of it, although that O'Shaughnessy overcame that. Yeah. Bravely. On the 3rd of April, 1962, he was elected to the College Football Hall of Fame, which was a, you know, a huge honour. But all good things must come to an end.

And he died of cancer the following day. on the 4th of April, 1962 at the University of California Hospital in San Francisco. Wow. Sounds like one of those classic things where he was maybe he was just holding on for that announcement or something like that. Wow. And so he would have just stayed in the US his whole life essentially originally. Like how young was he when he went over?

24. Yeah, right. So this is where my brain has gone. Definitely got an American accent by this point. Like that's all I was thinking for a lot of this. I was like, probably doesn't sound Aussie anymore. Probably doesn't even hardly say Cobber anymore. Yeah, no, he's not one of us now.

I wonder what the Australian accent was back then in the late 1800s. How developed it was. Yeah, true. It's probably sounding quite English. And what the American accent was back then as well. Yeah. It's interesting thing. Probably all sounding fairly English.

I'm sure I've said this before, but I find that fascinating how an accent develops. Yeah. And it blew my mind a couple years ago when I saw a video of some like 20, to 30-year-old Melbourneians talking, doing vox pops recently. There's an old tape. And I think of like, you know, old man, old woman voice, we're like, oh, hello dear. Yeah.

But it's like, oh, that's not old person voice. That's just how they always talked. It's not like you start talking like that when you get older. Yeah, it's not like when we're old, we're suddenly going to be wearing cardigans, pearls, and playing chess. Like nursing homes for us, we're going to be in boardies and T-shirts and, like, oversized clothes and we're going to be playing video games. And people are going to be like, oh, look.

at their grandpals and grandmas playing their video games. It's just how they always were. Yeah. Yeah. It's such a funny realisation. Like, obviously that's the case. Nah, but you just don't have that. It takes a while to get to that realization.

You're like, oh yeah, of course. But it's so funny to hear like a 28-year-old saying, oh, yes. Yeah. Oh, it's marvelous, isn't it? Oh, no, I think a woman should stay home. It's always those. I think a woman should stay home and look after the children,

these women who want to work. I just don't think they're, oh no, and you're like, oh, what? So that is, that is the end of my report on the kangaroo kicker, Patty O'Day, or Pat O'Day, which yeah, I just found to be a fascinating story and so interesting that it doesn't seem to be well known. Yeah, great one. And so you just came across that sort of article. Yeah, I'm not sure, even how I stumbled across it, because no one suggested into the hat.

This is my, just the captain's pick. Yeah, captain's pick is a way bit of phrasing it. What a great story. And surprising that, yeah, we hadn't heard of him, that it's not sort of a well-known name because he sounds like the type of person that Australia loves to celebrate. Yeah, exactly.

And I love her, his connections to, like, his Nelly Melbourne's mate. Yeah. She's on the $100 note. She's a... Kick off bloody Monash on the other side. Yeah, fuck off Monash. O'Day. Imagine a Melbourne and O'Day.

Back together again. Yeah, that'd be nice. Next door neighbors. Next door neighbors. as they should have been. Oh, that would be lovely. Let's have a word. And JFK somehow becoming a long-time admirer?

Yeah, isn't that wild? Yeah, I just don't quite understand how that would have even happened. Or if that's just he's got a pile of letters on his desk and it's like, can you sign these? Like when you get a letter from the queen on your anniversary or something. Oh, no, she means. She means those. They're from the heart. She's like, Eddie and Dorothy's anniversary's coming up.

I better remember to write him a card. But maybe he was a fan of him being an office manager. of a fashion firm. That's true. Yeah, he's like, love your work. Oh my goodness. Your pants are fantastic. Just the best.

Maybe you've really made a mark on Bob Hope's, uh, all American announcements. Big fan of the announcements. But or just maybe just heard of the fact that he kicked a ball 110 yards. Yeah, it must be like legendary. Yeah.

And the fact that he is an Irish guy. And surely you don't, you don't just, you don't write, I'm a long time admire if you're full of shit. You'd say something else like, I've heard good things. I've heard good things.

I've heard good. Yeah. I've heard good things. Personally, I don't know who you are. Hey, good on you. Happy birthday. Bloody good on you. Now, welcome to everyone's favorite section of the show where we get to thank

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And I also, the effect, quote of a question, It also gets to give themselves a title. David's giving themselves the title of chief landscaper of the grassy knoll. Oh. Very important job. Very high traffic area for tourism these days. You'd be pretty pissed off, actually, that like that was the reason that grassy knoll was famous because you'd put so much work into the landscaping.

And you're like, oh, okay. Yeah, no, sure, just come and see. Don't have a look around at the landscaping. Yeah. Got that crisscross pattern. Yeah. No one noticed the flowers I imported from Africa. Okay, those are quite rare and very high maintenance.

Yeah, they're not even grass. Sure, it's a knoll. Yeah. But it's a rosy knoll. And it's beautiful. That's what we used to call it. Before it got rebranded. Are they conspiracy theorists?

What are they going to wreck next? Anyway, David has given us a fact this week. David writes, There's a Romanian phrase that comes in handy when describing a tendency of weather that's handy for anyone in Melbourne and further south. It is Swarae Kudint. That's the, that's what the rough phonetics of the word is.

It translates to sun with teeth and refers to a day that looks nice, a sunny day, clear blue skies, but it's still very cold and not nice to be outside in. Yeah. I would have thought sun with teeth would have meant like it's, you are going to get burnt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. But, yeah, they are, they're nasty days. The days where it looks beautiful. And when you're in the sun, it's nice. If you're planning a beer garden day or something like that or any sort of outdoor activity. Yeah. And you don't bring a jumper.

Yep. And you're caught. Oh, man. Awful. Nasty. Won't make that mistake again. Yeah. What about cloud with teeth?

That's when it looks overcast, but it is a high UV warning. Yeah. They're just, everybody out there for. for six hours, you're going to get burned anyway. They're the biggest burning days. Yeah. Yeah. But that's great.

I love that. Sun with Teeth. Swaree Kudint. I like that a lot. Thank you very much, David. Next one comes from Tessa Chilcott, given themselves the title of Contessa of Tessors. Oh, love that very much.

Now what does that translate to? What's the Contessa? A contessa is like a count. Right. Oh, right, love it. Contessa of Tessors. And Contessa, I mean Tessa, has offered a fact as well. Writing, I just had my wisdom teeth removed.

Huge drama, but that's another story. Because the dentists and other dental people have been so fascinated with the fact I still have one baby molar tooth, no adult tooth to push it out. Oh. I've been looking at teeth facts because of this. Apparently, it's very common for adults to sometimes retain baby. teeth. Not that I've become defensive.

It's actually very common. Actually, it's more common than you would think. Okay, thank you for being self-aware. That is how it read a little. Yeah, I know like four people, so. It's fine. I'm in a Facebook group. Anywho, my fact is this.

Prior to 1960, people really thought that toothaches were caused by a toothworm who lived in your gums. Yark. Prior to 1960, that's recent. For me, an old man. Yeah, that's like my grandpa would have been in dental school in the 50s, so was he being taught that? Yes. Wow.

That was one. Did he warn you about the worm in your mouth? He did say that a lot. There was a whole unit about dental worms. So if the worm was resting, you had no pain. They thought the worms would enter the tooth, have a bit of a feast, and then cause no end of issues. What? Suppose it was how they explained all the terrible teeth falling out.

of their mouths. I'm ready to be done with teeth, so thanks for keeping me company during this week from hell. I saved up a few episodes to listen to while I was recovering. Can't remember much. Thanks to the painkillers. Love those painkillers. Jesse, you want painkillers?

Right now. Is that your issue why you can't remember the episodes? Uh, yes. Constantly on painkillers. But Tessa says, because of that, that means I'll enjoy listening again. Thanks heaps. I'll shut up here. Thank you so much, Tessa.

No need to shut up. Great fact. That's wild Huge of true Teeth are fucked We had a story on Simple of the Jess one time Of a girl who I think it was genetic in her family

She essentially had this condition Where she Not genetic outside of her family She lost her baby teeth Like three or four times She had like multiple sets of baby teeth That would come through And then she'd lose all those

Oh Cashing in with the tooth fairy How traumatic is that? Yeah That's full on I think she's like Where we're like Are you?

If you've got more, she's like, I think I'm done. Like, oh, but that's terrifying. Yeah, that feels like some sort of a dental worm curse. Yeah. And I don't have enough teeth. Like, like, I think I have the amount that a child has when they're about eight. That's what I've got. Yeah, right.

I don't have that many teeth. So you never got the wisdoms? Is they the last one? I've had them out. I was like, honestly, leave them in. Yeah, I need them. I need, just for numbers. They all count.

Yeah. Anyway, just a little fun fact there for you. I don't know if I love teeth stuff. Nah, teeth. I hate teeth stuff. You know that seeing like an x-ray where the teeth are above the other teeth? Don't love that. Anyway, you never say stuff like that on a podcast because someone will definitely send me a photo now.

Yes, I will. Not our lovely listeners. Next one comes from Paul Meller. Great Saints of Paul. Paul over in England. I follow him on Twitter. You also post the nicest photos on his morning walks. I always make me feel real nice.

Now, Paul... That's lovely. He's given himself the title of Lord Meller of Mellar Manor. Oof. That's fun to say. That is fun to say. Lord Meller of Mellar Manner. Lord Mellar of Mela Manner.

I enjoy that so much. Paul has asked a question. Paul writes, I have a question inspired by Matt's recent Keen for Nien tweets. Oh yeah, I recently tweeted about... Neenish tarts. Yes. Which I didn't realize they're an Australian thing.

Seems like a senior origin. Anyway, maybe that's where this is going. Paul asks, what is your favorite tart or sweet baked treats? Paul has answered the question. Love that. Thank you, Paul. Okay, so like, okay, let's narrow it down. Let's say country bakery.

Yes. You go on in, what do you get it? Oh, okay. Pie, obviously. Obviously. Obviously getting a pie. I'm getting like a cheese and salad roll. Nothing better than a bakery cheese and salad.

It does say specifically sweet baked treat. Yeah, but that's a sweet pie. That's your meal. Like, there's always a dessert. Yeah, come on. We're washing it down. I have to get a sweet treat when you're at a country bakery. I'm going to pasty.

Lava pasty of sauce. Yeah, yum. Yeah, pasty or yeah, yum. I'd be doing that or all this. No, I'm going to stick with my chicken salad. My cheese and salad, not chicken salad. Cheese and salad. Okay, desserts, Dave.

Jelly slice. Oh, my mum makes a pretty good. Mum makes a pretty good jelly slice. Oh, I'd love to have it. Yeah, yum. I've gone through different phases. As a kid, I had a Nienish tart every time. I remember the bakery in Cyneton, which doesn't exist anymore.

I tried to go back to it on Piper Street, not there. What a bummer. Yeah, it was a bit of a bummer. It was so good, like real strong nostalgia memories. But I've had a few Nanish Tarts since, and they're pretty full on in terms of sweetness. So I'm, and then I reckon for a while I loved a vanilla slice, loved it until someone called it a Snop block. And I couldn't eat them anymore.

And then fruit flans for a little while quite enjoyed. Now probably, I don't know what, I don't have the biggest sweet tooth anymore, but probably a donut maybe. Yeah. Like a chalk ice donut or something. Yeah, what else is there? Dad would always get lemon tarts. Oh, yeah, I love a lemon tart.

Jam tarts, lemon tart. It's an older person thing. It's one of those classic, just want to taste something. And this tastes full on. Oh, they are full on. And it's such a strange texture now that I'm thinking about. but I'm also like salivating a little bit, like I want one. It wasn't, because it's not like a, like a custody kind of tart or like a baked

type. It's just like a lemon goo. Yeah. In a little pastry. It's really, fuck, delicious. Or maybe like a cinnamon donut. That's what I'd go for. Yeah, nice.

What has Paul said? Did you, what do you go? Jelly slice. But if it has to be a tart, I love a Portuguese tart. It doesn't have to be a tart. Oh, yeah. Sorry, Dave, I am on painkillers. Paul writes, mine is a custard tart

It is my go-to tart When I fancy a little treat Not sure if these are just a UK thing We definitely have them They have the feel of something That could have started over there though probably That is my dad's go-to Close seconds

Strawberry tart or Wimberry pie That sounds very good I haven't heard of that What is a Wimberry pie? Do we have one of those? And yeah, I'm not sure what a strawberry tart would be But I guess it's just a strawberry version of a lemon tart

Beautiful. Pairs the tart with strawberry. Paul says, keep up the great work. You are on fire with Blocktober this year. At the time of writing this, we are patiently waiting to find out what is number one. All the best, Paul. Well, hopefully you were satisfied. I think countdowns of popular votes or any countdowns are always,

people are always going to be like, oh, that was the number one, was it? Yeah, of course. But the feedback's been really positive this year, which I appreciate it. I think generally our listeners are lovely people. And that is probably why. Thank you very much, Paul. Have you seen her? You're trying to find a Wimberry tart.

I've found one. My computer's just shed itself. An article here. Has there ever been a fruit with as many different names? Wimbury, Winberry, Winbury, Windberry, windberry, bilberry, Hurtleberry, waterberry. It's a little purple. Oh, that looks delicious.

Inside, as I'm looking at an image. Oh, that looks lovely. Love to look at that, Paul. Very keen to try. Thank you very much, Paul. The final one this week comes from Gary J from the UK. Ah, Gary. And Gary's given himself the title of the vice president of the fan club

for the sister of the former president, Eunice Mary Kennedy. Great work, Eunice. Great work, Eunice. Love the name, love your vibe, love you. Love you. Love you, Eunice. And Gary Jay asks a question. He writes, he-he-he.

Oh, that's great. Just the way you say it is so cute. I don't know how else you say it. He-he. He-he. He writes, he-he. He was wondering if any of you can speak another language or if you could learn a new one, which would it be? And Gary has gone on to answer the question, but do you want to answer before he does?

Do you want to read his out first? What's Gary's? Gary says at the moment me and Nat, my wife, my wife, are trying to learn British sign language, just as a bit of fun. I learned Macaton signing for children when I worked with kids. It was really fun and rewarding teaching them to do it. A little bit of a brag there. He-he. He-he.

Because of course this section is now a fact-quotter question, brag or suggestion. Yeah, of course. You can add those at any time. Very similar to you, Gary, last year I was learning Osloans, Australian Sign Language. It's very similar or it's got a lot of its history. It's rooted in British sign language. So I think it's like very similar or maybe even the same alphabet. Some signs are very similar.

But I'd like to get back into and do a bit more of that next year. A bit more Osland. And yeah, I learned a lot of Italian at school. So I could comfortably tourist in Italy. That's good. I reckon. It'd be a lot of like, I would say, hello can I have that and beyond that I'd be like I'm so sorry you speak English and

they'd be like oh yes and I figured you would need me too yeah I pleasey yeah I remember yeah been in a few different places and people being like maybe in France we're like I I'll speak English yeah I remember I'm sitting down at a at a place in Amsterdam with my friend I was travelling with and they just brought out Australian Australian English menus but said good aye what do you want Culba just immediately like we just sat down he had hadn't said anything to us, he brought English menus. And we're like, how'd you know? And he's like, please.

I'm like, okay. You said, I want to get a dingo up you? Yeah, just a couple of forsters, thanks. Dave? I would love to learn French because my partner speaks French and I feel left out. Left out. You're talking about Poirot? And Poirot, yes, my hero, Poirot.

The Belgians speak French? Some do. Right. And is that, what's the go there? in Belgium. They're to speak Flemish? Flemish. It's a beautiful name.

Is there a Flemish tart? It feels like they probably is. Sounds right. Doesn't that sound like something? That's a thing, isn't it? Surely, that's a thing. Surely. If not, why not?

Why not? Let's make one. I think I did four years of Italian in high school, did two years of Mandarin in primary school. Oh, yep. A couple years of Indonesian in high school. Yeah. And I've retained very little of all of those.

It's like, but it's at that formative time where you surprised. yourself. I remember being in Italy and somebody asking me a question and I knew what they meant. Oh, cool. But if you'd ask me here, how do you say that? I'd go, I have no idea. Right. Definitely I have like counting to 10. I think I could do in those. But I, um, yeah, how handy is that? I guess yeah. But I think just being good at any of those would be great. Yeah. I'd love to, um, get to, you know, casual speaking levels at least. And sign language is a great one. Like, it's, It's a really handy thing to know and definitely make somebody's day if you can communicate with them. And also, like, if you know the alphabet, you can get your way through anything.

Yeah, right. Just spell it out. Yeah. If you have to. Yeah. First, you have to learn the sign for Uno Memento. Yeah. And then a little patience, please.

Please. Yeah, cool. That's a good question. Belgium has four linguistic areas, the French-speaking area, the Dutch-speaking area, the bilingual area of Brussels. the capital and the German speaking area. There's a Flemish Dutch as well. Cool. And Flemish tarts, Dave.

Oh, I'm wondering. Really thought that's what you were passionately Googling over there and said you're like, oh, languages, relevant to the question. Flemish sugar tart recipe by, I thought it said your name. It says Martha Stewart. Close. That is my name.

Wait, what did you think my name was? You thought Matt Stewart had a very successful, cooking blog. And a stint in prison. Guess how long it's going to take... Very successful stint in prison. Guess how long is going to take you to make a Flemish sugar tart?

How long? Couple minutes? Four hours, five minutes. Easy. Dave, a lot of that's just in the oven. It's like saying, you know, how long it's going to take you to make a cake? Couple hours.

Well, it's doing a lot of them. It's in the oven and then it's cooling. Well, you could do a Stephen Segal and under siege too and despite being a cook, just put it in the microwave for 15 minutes. And he goes, and that's how you make a cake. And then someone,

One jumps out of it? No, that's the first film. That's number one. Yeah, they love cake in that movie. Jesus, very cakeish motif. Yes. But anyway, that brings us to everyone's favourite section of the show still, where we thank a few more of our supporters. Bob, you normally come up with a game, link to the topic at hand.

Yeah, we either give them a mascot or like a... Like a badger or a live kangaroo. Like a sporting nickname, like the kicking kangaroo. Oh, do you reckon? I don't know. what's better I reckon I reckon sporting nickname

A literary of sporting nickname Yeah preferably An adjective or whatever And a And an animal A adjective A whatever and an animal No just the

Well is kicking an adjective No it's a verb No Oh I regret bringing this up Dave You read books Well kick That's a verb

But kicking Yes But a kicking kangaroo is an adjective Thank you I should never doubt myself Never ever Matt Look at me. Don't you doubt yourself. Don't do it.

All right. So first up from, oh, address unknown, can only assume deep within the fortress of the moles. I already know what animal is, isn't it? Yes. It is Jake B. Bush. The moldy mole. Oh, the moldy mole. Jake be moldy moldy. Jake be moldy mole. Jake be moldy mole. That's fun. Moldy? Moldy. Or should it be something else? Mellow mole. The mellow mole. Not a very good. mascot to be honest. Oh wait, he's not a mascot. This is the, this is, this is it.

Okay, so yeah, he's a very like chilled, relaxed player. Yeah. Yeah, but. Effective. White lime fever. Oh, yeah, big time. Doesn't matter. I think we're up to 320.

Is that right? No, we're up to 321. 321. Sorry, so much. You were correct. Hey, Dave. You're a dumb shit. Thank you very much, Jake.

I'd also love to thank from Napaian in Ontario, Canada. Tara. Tara. The something tiger? Tittalating. Titulating tiger. What does titillating mean? It's exciting, yeah.

Yes. Wow. Tittalating tiger. Tara is just like a very exciting player to watch. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. You never quite know what Tara's going to do.

It's a real challenge for the cheerleaders. Yeah. To get it in. Tittalating tiger. Yeah. Tiddleet tiger. T, rah, rah, that sort of stuff. Titulating tagger.

It was actually really easy. Dave's been watching Bring It On. I love it. And finally from me, from Stratford Upon Avon, I believe it, is that the deep within the fortress of Shakespeare? Yeah, the Shakespearean Mole. In Warwickshire, Great Britain, it's Dominic Hood.

Dominic Hood. What's a hooded animal? Oh yeah, the hooded fox. No, I'm thinking of the animated Robin Hood. Oh, great. Who was a fox? Yes. Fox.

In both meanings of the word. Oh, that fox could get it. Filthy Fox. The filthy fox is a dirty player. Dominic the filthy fox hood. Oh, I like that a lot. Like if you need the job done, no matter what, send in the filthy fox.

Love that. Dominic the Dominator filthy fox hood. Ra, rah. Jess, you want to thank a few? Absolutely, I do. I got a bit scared then. You called me Jess. I was like, oh, I'm in trouble.

Jessica? Oh, no. Please. I would love to thank from St Kilda in Victoria. Alex. Oh, fun fact about St. Kilda. What's that? They won their one-on-only premiership in 1966.

Oh, well, soon. They'll win number two. Yeah, I believe it's coming up. Very soon. A great draft hall this year. Really exciting crop of young players. I would say that's going to happen in the next 60 years. Yeah, wait.

Oh, I will not be a lot of. for that, but I would, oh, maybe I can hang on, but... You might. I could. Oh, it would be pushing it. I mean, I've been around for so long, man. I don't know if you'd really, um, pay attention to the game. Yeah.

What's that? I've been talking about before, I do somehow get that old man voice. Say what I think? What should have you got there, dear? No, I think we wouldn't belong here. I think we would should stay at home. Anyway, I would love to thank from Sir Kilda, Alex Weibery. sounds like it could be a tart

wabry tart yum that sounded sarcastic I meant that yum the tarty toad oh the tarty toad a slutty little toad I meant more tart like

as in baked good like oh okay delicious yes delicious toad yeah sort of like sort of nuggety I guess a pie you could

sugary sugary sweet sweet is a bit more positive Tarty Toad. That's nice. Tarty Toad. I like that a lot. And I would also love to thank from Tu Wong in Queensland, Hannah.

Hannah. Oh. Hannah, the hell-raising hermit hound. The hermit hound. That's good. Hell-raising hermit hound. Triple H, they call her. Yeah, Triple H.

That's a new thing that... That's a new sporting name that is untaken so far. Dave, wrestling man, is that right? That's right, Triple H. Hunter Helmsley. I can't remember what the other H is for. Oh, there is another triple H. Oh, no, disappointing.

Well, then what I said isn't relevant at all. And finally, for me, I would love to thank from Egan in, I want to say, Minnesota. Minnesota? Emin. Amen, Dave? That feels right. That feels right. There's so many M states, though.

Can you ever be sure? And I keep doubting myself, but lately I've been better because we have. have a lot of American supporters. And so anyway, back yourself, Jess. Back yourself. It is Minnesota, Jess. And that is where Sophie Morris is from. Thank you, Sophie.

Okay, Sophie, what kind of vibe am I getting from you? Maybe like an eel. Oh, yeah, electrifying eel. Yes. That's a pretty good nickname. That's great. She's like slick, can't quite catch her. Yeah, can't grab it, runs through with a ball.

Untackleable. Yeah, that's good. That's what you want to be. Yeah, running back. Yeah. Who just gets sweaves through the field. She's a gymnast. Oh, gym.

Yeah, I'll see my head. Can't get your hairs on her. American footballers, but no. They could be anything they want to be. People are trying to tackle her as she runs towards the pommel horse and they can't grab her. Which is the gymnast red zone, really, isn't it? All right, I'd like to thank a few people. I'd like to thank from Napaian in Ontario in Kansas.

Canada. Another one. Big thank you to Sam. Oh, Sam. Sam and Tara from the same place. Yeah, what are the odds of that? Two Napaeaners. And only giving us...

Nepeanists. First names. First name. Do you know each other? If you don't, you should. Okay, I'm getting... What kind of... I'm getting a zebra vibe.

Ooh. Oh, Zainy. Zany zebra. The Zany... Or Zany's good. That's good. That's good. Hey?

Because they're like, what's a zebra? ZZ. ZZ Sam. Yeah. comes out on top On your double Z That's real good Put the other players

To sleep Hey I would like to thank Now from Rotherham In Great Britain Thomas Hill Thomas Hill Thomas Hill Is there a Rotherham tart

Sure They feel like they've got a tart For everything Yeah for every occasion For every city We should do a tart crawl one day That'd be great Oh my God

Yum I can't move I've had 84 tarts I love Wombat as a name I think it's a great footballing thing. They can go real fast and then nuggets and they can just plow through. So what's a...

Whistling wombat. Oh, that's good. That's real good. You hear them coming. Yeah. You hear that wombat coming. Bang! No, ain't nothing to me.

Yeah. Oh, what's up? Just a little wombat. Just whistle while I work. It's a cute little wombat. I'm going to fuck you up. Thomas, the Whistling Wombat Hill. That's really good.

Well done. And finally, I'd like to thank from Camberwell here in Victoria. Emmy Notal Emmy Already amazing Yeah Then not all

Fucking hell Emmy that's so good Yeah something Emmy I mean the award The Emmy award Is there any animal Related to the Emmys Dave

I'm trying to think of an Emmy An Anna Is that like What was the famous TV Or movie Red Dog Red Dog Red Dog

Red Dog Probably not Emmys, but should have been. Is Emmys TV and movies? Yeah, what about Mr. Ed? Mr. Ed. So the horse. Horny horse. I was going to say Humping Horse.

Humping horse. The horny humping horse. The horny out triple H. Oh, that could be the other nickname. The Triple H because I don't think that hasn't come up. That hasn't come up. Emmy, how do you feel about that? Do you like that, Emmy?

You can just go to the horse if you wanted to. Yeah. Sounds badass. The horse. She sounds like she has a big dick. Yeah, the Sydney coach in the NFL's nickname's horse. Is it? Yeah.

Why? Long face, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, right. Sad. I assume big dick. Licks or salt. Do not know for sure.

I'm sure he's got a more G-rated backstory for it. Doubtful. Hey, I'd like to thank you one more time. Emmy, Thomas, Sam, Sophie, Hannah, Alex, Dominic, Tara and Jake B. Bush. Well, that brings us to the final section of our great supporter shout-out section, which is where we thank a few of our long-term supporters who we're welcoming into the Triptitch Club. It's just the two inductees this week. The way this works is we've got a club set up.

It's a beautiful space. It's in your mind, but it's in our hearts as well. And I'm standing on the door, I got a velvet rope. I'm going to read out your name. I'm holding the clipboard. Welcome you in. Dave's a hot man. he's standing on the stage, everyone who's already inducted standing around cheering you on.

Ra, rah, rah, that sort of thing. Yeah. Jess is up on the stage with Dave, just keeping him feeling good because he's your hype man tonight. Thank you so much. Jess is Dave's hype. What would you refer to yourself as a hype, hype, e? I want to be a hype man. Hype man, just other hot.

I think hype man has no gender. Back up hype man. I'm deciding. But you're, I mean, you can be a hype man for just one person, I guess. Of course you can. You're probably more of a hype man than Dave is. Dave's more like a MC and you're the hype man.

Yeah. Thank you so much. So another thing that happens is Dave normally books a band. You're never going to believe it. Oh my God. What's happened? I booked this one nine,

10 months ago looking back at the emails. And we are going to have an acoustic set from the Steve Miller band. Get out. Can you believe that? So take your money and run. Going to be so, so good. Hell, is he going to get on a big jet air

Carolina. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, playing all the hits. This is crazy. Like, at some point,

it's like you've got this, this, you're on such a hot streak. I know. But at some point, like, it's got to end, right?

Like, how can you possibly maintain this? Honestly, I don't know. Wow. Just incredible. While it's happening, it's so good.

Absolutely. Jess, have you got a kangaroo kicker cocktail for guests or not? Absolutely. The kicker is cocaine. So it's sort of like a classic lip-sip-sip-sup. but it's more of a snort sip suck.

No, it's just in the drink. It's in a cocktail. So I do have to limit it to one per person. Right. It's more like a, instead of a Jaeger bomb, it's more like a cocaine bomb. Correct. It's kind of like the original Coca-Cola.

Yes, that's right. But it's like a fun, fruity cocktail. It's blue. Fruit tingle? Yeah, it's like, no, it's blue. Oh, blue? Like a, like a... Can you have a blue...

Carac, croc. I'll put the crack in... Anyway. Yeah. And also, like, the food. that we have is like it's like an Australian but infused with American food because as an homage. So instead of it, it's like a to ducken, but the duck is actually a duck billed platypus stuffed inside a turkey. That sort of thing?

Nah, I just meant we had like Jats and cheese and then also like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like American barbecue kind of thing. I'm just putting the kosh back down over my. I did not. A platoose. A platypus. Sorry.

Sorry. Sorry. Don't look up. Don't worry about. Matt, what's in that closh? No, don't worry about that closh.

Nothing's there. I've truly misunderstood the Mastership Challenger. So just two inductees this week. Are you ready, Dave, to hype them up. Let's do this. Let's go, Dave. Lift that rope. From Perth in Western Australia at Ziki.

Ziki, feeling cheeky. Yes, you cheeky boy. I'm from West Hollywood in California and the United States. It's Tess Ornstein. Oh, Tess Ornstein, Phelonstein, Phelanstein. Yeah. For friendship. Or Tess is best.

Yeah. Both good. Welcome in, Tess and Ziki. So good to have you. So to be in the Triptych Club, you've just got to be signed up on the shoutout level or above for three straight years. And you get in and you get to have some Coke apparently. Yeah.

And I don't. Only if you want it. There's no pressure. It's open bar. I can make it without the coke. I can make it without the alcohol. Like, it's up to you, but like, it's the kangaroo kicker. Yeah.

Like, what am I supposed to do? You can have a virgin kangaroo kicker. What am I supposed to do? Just put it like a tiny little plastic kangaroo on the side of your drink. Like it's a fucking garnish? No. We've been doing this for a long time and I have to think of something different every time. Exactly.

You mean something called kicker. I've got to give it a kick, don't I? Oh, yeah, I can put some Tabasco in it. Get the fuck out, bloody Mary. No. And that brings to the end of the episode. Thanks so much for joining us for another week. Yeah, is there anything else we need to say before we go, Boppa?

Just that you can find us on social media at do go on pod. You can email us at dogoonpod at gmail.com. Check out our website, dogoonpod.com. And, you know, be sure to bloody tune in. That's great. Tell your friends if you want to. Oh, my God. You can support us in all sorts of ways, really.

Tell your friends. Yeah. Not too much. So then they're like not listening out of protest. Just make it like real cash and cool. Just be like as you're meeting a friend for coffee, just sort of have your earphones in and just be like, ha ha ha ha.

Oh hey, good to see. Sorry, I was listening to a great podcast, that sort of stuff. Yeah. Guerrilla marketing is what we're after. And then of course, warn them,

yes, it will be tedious at first. Yes. But you'll get used to them. Yeah, you do. At first you're like, the fuck.

These guys are a bit much. But then you understand the way obvious friends. Yes. Well, win you over with our tedium. And I believe next week we'll be back with our annual Kishmish special. Obviously, I think this is now maybe our seventh annual Christmas episode. So if you want to do the run-up this week,

and listen to all the Christmas episodes. We've got one for every day of the week now. I love for the seven days of Christmas, my true love gave to me. I couldn't name a week of podcasts. Maybe I'll go back and listen. Christmas Time Mysteries part one. Yes. Christmas Time Mysteries part two.

Okay. Crampsis. Cramsus. Santa Claus, the origin story. We did a three part one in London one time where we talked about Michael Boubley And the Stone of Skone Heist And I did one about a town called

Christmas or Christmas or something Yes, that's right And I did one on the Eggnog riot Oh, that was another one in London Yeah We've done two London And I talked about die hard

Yes, that's right Okay, now I remember And did I talk about the Westminster thing Yeah Or something like that It's all coming back to me now bloody hell I feel like

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