Do Go On - 324 - The Tromp Family Mystery

Episode Date: January 5, 2022

On the 30th of August 2016 Police arrived at the Tromp family home on a farm outside of Melbourne. This kicked off an investigation into a bizarre mystery involving a family road trip that zigzagged up the east coast of Australia, tune in for the story!Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: dogoonpod.com or patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Stream our 300th episode with extra quiz (and 16 other episodes with bonus content): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-37293494https://www.smh.com.au/national/bizarre-tale-of-tromp-family-road-trip-cloaked-in-mystery-20160901-gr6ujf.htmlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4284496/Tromp-family-normal-bizarre-trip.htmlhttps://www.mamamia.com.au/tromp-family/https://www.goulburnpost.com.au/story/4138637/man-finds-elder-missing-tromp-sister-in-back-of-ute/?cs=180 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.

Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal, and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Wonki.

And as always, I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Dave Warnocky, that's it. I was feeling, because we've known each other so long now, it felt weird to ask. So I really appreciate you bringing that up. Well, you saying that has possibly saved me from anyone pointing out that I said, Jest Perkins. It's pronounced your name. Hey, we're still recovering from New Year's Eve.

What a big night. What a big night. Oh, it's bloody wild, mate, let me tell you. The thing is, I set my expectations for it so high and it exceeded them. Yeah. place to be town. Oh I got to go ahead into town. Fireworks, you get the kids session and the adult session. Yeah, you got to get into town. Well, like, will Dave make it past the kid's session? He did, which is great. It was a great night. I obviously fell asleep in the back of the car.

You carried me into bed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, but what do we do here again? Well, Jess would be the best on to explain that, I think. That's right. Dave did, uh, point that question at you and you've beautifully deflected that over here. What we do is each week, one of us goes off. We research a topic. It could be anything from serial killers to Dolly Parton to mysteries to World War I. We've done it all. The big four.

And they do some research, bring it back to the other two. Tell them about it. And you, because you're listening in, while the other two just sort of rudely interrupt and make silly little jokes. Yeah. Really, the listener, you listener, you're the best one. You're just listening quietly. Yeah.

Apart from the times you yell at your iPod, but we can't hear that. So it doesn't really affect us. It doesn't affect the flow of the episode. And we always start with a question. That's right. I'm doing the report this week, and my question is pretty broad here. What is the great Australian summertime adventure? Probably great everywhere summertime adventure.

But what are you doing? You've got no plans for a couple of days. What are you going to do? You're at the beach. Yeah, surfing. You obviously come across some sort of smugglers. And then it's up to you. and your brother to solve the case.

Okay, so you're thinking like a Poirot-style investigation. Jess, what do you, a normal person, do? It's summertime. Most summers, I go on a road trip. Yes, Bob, that's it. That's road trip. We're going on a road trip.

Fun! Oh, I prefer to solve crimes. You solve crimes? Yeah, I like some of crimes. Yeah, like summer holidays, Christmas. That little time between Christmas and New Year's, you're like, oh, I can solve like three crimes this week. Well, this is the perfect episode for you two.

Jess, you can enjoy the road trip. Dave, you can try. try and solve this whatever it is. Okay. Mysterious event, I suppose. This one was suggested by Sean Harris from Cartersville, Georgia. Niall from Melbourne, here in Victoria. That's right where we are.

Hannah from Washington, D.C., up on Capitol Hill. And Hussein Mertie from Antwerp in Belgium. Awesome. So this one, obviously, this story has traveled around the world a little bit. That's a whole three different countries that have suggested. of this. Whoa. Yeah?

Wow. Three. Three. Including Belgium, obviously, the home of Poirot. Exactly. All right, let us begin. Oh, I mean, do you want to know what the story is? Yeah.

It's, uh, I think it's going to be called the Trump family mystery. Trump. Trump. Do you remember the Trumps? Yes. Vagely. I don't remember, I don't know heaps. I'm the same.

I'm like, I recall it very, very vaguely. Yeah, like seeing a newspaper article. battle or something. But I didn't know the story at all. Yeah, right. So this isn't contemporary mystery. It is contemporary. When did you start working in TV, in news comedy?

About five years back? Oh, well, you were potentially there at this point. Really? Because this happened about five years back. Wow. Let us begin. On the 30th of August 2016, police arrived at the Trump family home in Sylvan in the Yarra Range.

just outside of Melbourne. Sort of just on the dandelongs? Yeah. I'd never heard of Sylvan. Yeah, I think I've heard of it. Sort of... That's convincing, isn't it? Out towards, you know, that little wine region out there, the Yarra.

Rangers, the thing I just said. If you'd ask me where's Sylvan, I wouldn't have a clue. I don't think I'd ever heard of it. Yeah, right. But it's, you know, it would be like a half hour or so dry from here probably. Yeah, not too bad. The Trump family lived on their red current farm where they also ran an earth-moving business.

The farm's website describes it as a, quote, lovely, tranquil property. The Troms all worked for their family business, and they did that seven days a week. Jacoba, known as Kobe, was 53 at the time. Her husband, Mark 51, and their adult children, Rihanna 29, Mitchell 25 and Ella 22. Police arrived at the farm as Kobe and Mark had been reported missing. When they arrived, they found a strange scene. Ella's silver perjou Peugeot

Peugeot Peugeot Peugeot? I mean it wasn't that bad It wasn't that far off I'm just a bit wrong If you'd kept going Nobody would have noticed Damn it

Do that was it parked in their driver Next to their Volkswagen Volkswagen And they're Saab It's the only way you can say it It's tragic that Saab has gone out of business Saab has no Saabs anymore No Saabs anymore

It's tragic Sweden's national car. The Saab? Is that Swedish? It was a Swedish car, yeah. Rest in peace. What about their Mazda?

They've got the Volvo, right? That beautiful box. World safest car at some point. Wow. But tell them, how about Volvo drivers, am I right? Safe. They try to get, yeah, they try to take that back with an app campaign or all that. You wish you were a bloody Volvo driver.

Beautiful work. Anyway, so the police arrived and Ella Silver Peugeot station wagon was gone, but the other cars remained, including their keys in the ignitions. Oh. All cars have keys in the ignition. I think there's like three other automobiles move. That's odd. Is that a standard thing for this family?

That's how tranquil this farm is. They go. That's pretty true. Leave the keys in. In the ignition. Yeah, you don't lose them when they're in the ignition. It's true. You just go to your car.

Where are my keys? Ready to go. Some people have like a key hook inside their house. Lame. Cars have an inbuilt key hook. It's called the ignition. I've got a key pineapple. Really?

Yeah. It's a little pineapple shaped dish. That's where I put my keys. I was hoping. Put it in the pineapple, I was hoping you like hollered out of pineapple and hid it in the fridge. No robbers looking at a pineapple. My keys are always nice and chilled. And sticky and sweet.

I got to lick them clean. There's a little trick for me. Here you go, I've got to leave the house again Well, there's a little treat on the way out The house was unlocked And inside the police found the family's passports Credit cards and mobile phones All out on a table

All out on it Because I was just thinking The cops have dug deep If they've found all their passports And so, because they're usually like Stored somewhere safe But they've just left them out Yeah

This is a very trusting family That is odd You know what? I may have That may have been an assumption I may That's what I felt. That's how it read. Where would you look for a passport?

Like if you're the cops. Passport pineapple is where I put it. Watermelon. Yeah, the hollowed out watermelon. Keeps them fresh and sticky. And a bedside table, maybe. Yeah. It means every time you leave to go overseas,

like, you know, we're going to go overseas, but you get a sticky little treat. You hand it over the customs. They're like, why is this so sticky? My friend is a cop and one time went to it. seen and they couldn't find this person's phone. He doesn't have a mobile phone or anything, so they didn't know how to contact next of kin or anything like that.

And he was an old man and she's like, they looked for literally like five different police officers looked for a couple of hours. Like there's no phone here. And then she's like, he's old. So is my dad. Where does dad put his phone? Top of the microwave. Goes to the microwave.

There's the phone. Yeah. She was like, there were five offices in there. And nobody found it. She got in the mind of the criminal. So that's why I'm thinking like, okay, where's my passport? That's where I would look for them.

Filing cabinet. Uh-huh. So as well as the passports credit cards mobile phones, they also found business documents and financial statements stacked in neat piles all out. These were certainly on the table. So ready to do their tax? Yeah. That's what it seemed like it is, August.

I guess that time's out okay. Yeah. It just seems like, yeah, this family just leave everything out. Do they own a cupboard? Very messy. Yeah, it was a nice big farm homestead, but not very good storage. It's like a small mansion, but, you know, cupboard space. Enough for linen.

Yeah. Yeah. What do you do with the bits and bobs? Yeah. You know, that takes up a bit of storage space. Not everybody's got a shed. Yeah. Or a paddick.

Yeah. Can you imagine their shed? Oh, not there. Not there. Wouldn't even have the tools in a toolbox. They'd just be loose everywhere. They certainly wouldn't have one of those boards with the outlines gone. So yeah, so a very mysterious scene the police found.

And this is, so just to confirm, it's Mark and Kobe, they're the parents. Yes, that's right. Wow. Mark and Kobe, the parents and the children, Rihanna, Mitchell and Ella. REM, if that helps you. That does. Absolutely does. everybody hurts.

So what happened? Yeah, where are they? Let's go back a few days. So it was Ella's Peugeot that's gone? Ella's Perge. So the youngest. Yeah, Peugeot. Her Peugeot.

I'm so sorry. I'm not a car person. Oh, a Peugeot. They used to say, let's per go to the shops. That's good. That's good. We'll take the Jeep. So we're not, sorry, not even going back a couple of days. we're going back to the previous day.

Monday, August 29th. This is when the trumps leave their farm in Ella's silver, Peugeot, and they head north. They leave their credit cards, IDs and mobile phones at home. Anything that's sort of traceable. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Something's happened. Around 30 kilometres into the journey at Warburton, the family realized that Mitchell, have I said that wrong? Warburton. Only laughing because we were talking about how American people say, Australian stuff differently to us. And we were going,

but also I brought that up because I noticed it on another thing when people notice it when we say other countries place wrong. But I think that helps prove. I also say our thing's wrong too. And also like, it doesn't matter, does it?

Well, I mean, you say that, but you both looked and could not have laughed harder. I thought you were doing that on purpose because of the Peugeot thing. So I was like, oh, that's good. Well, that's what I was doing. Yeah. Now, I mean, we knew what you meant. Dave scoffed. Dave was scoffing over there.

Only because... He was halfway through writing a tweet, um, actually. Do you mean a Warbid? I was yelling at my iPod, which in this instance was my microphone. No, I just thought it was funny in the context of... You're from that area, I guess, are you?

Is that out east somewhere or something? No idea where Warburton is, actually. You just know how it's bloody pronounced. Well, well, well, it's about 30Ks from Sylvan. Okay, right. Am I saying Sylvan, right? I've never heard of. Savan.

Sylvarn. I'd also never heard of Trisylvan. So around 30Ks into the journey at Warburton, or Warburton, the family realized that Mitchell has brought his phone with him. Mitchell. What? What? You bloody tweet and playing your little Tetris, are you?

Unbelievable. Hey, guys, leave everything that can be tracked, and Mitchell's like, absolutely not. I'm bringing my GPS. 2016, what were the big phone games back then? Big phone, Angry Birds? Angry Birds. It was probably, he's like, I'm on a high level of Angry Birds.

You know? Yeah. Fruit Ninja, hollowing out of pineapple, putting something in there. Flink, flink. So the family see that he's got his phone and they make him throw it out the window. Oh, at least they didn't throw him out the window. That's true. He's pretty big, though.

They make him throw it out the window. Okay. They drive through the day and into the night before arriving in Bathurst in New South Wales, around 760 kilometres north east of their home. It's a big day's drive. It's a big day's drive. Straight to Mount Panorama. Exactly.

Well, you know. Just doing a couple laps. That's right. It's a, yeah, August, a bit early. They're getting there early in time to bury their slabs. Some people do bury their beers in the ground. Because they're only allowed to bring, so Bathurst is the home of Australia's big race day. Car racing.

Car racing. The touring cars, the Australian V8. The super cars. And there's a rule there at Bathurst. You know this, that you're allowed one slab of beer per person. per day they're very strict on that's so much beer

I didn't know that and for some people that's not enough so for maybe people that don't know to the slab that's 24 beers yes

per day four six packs 375 you know standard stubby size beers or cans and then for some people that's not enough

so they have to go and bury more how many days is it it's like a three day weekend I think so I'm thinking I'm imagining

the boot of my car and I'm like, how many could I fit in? Not that much, probably. So I'd be burying. Yeah, yeah. A slab would last week. I'd have leftovers at the end of three days. Oh, that is, you think about it,

one beer every hour for 72 straight hours. Yeah. No, thank you. I like that sometimes in the past, I'd go to a music festival where you could bring your own beer and I'd always be like three nights. Well, I'll need two slabs and then a few other things. Yeah, two slabs and a bottle of vodka and some mixes.

And you're like, no. And then I'll go, well, obviously I'll go to the bar when I'm there, have a few of their cocktails. And you're like, what, when did I, how did I think I was going to fit that much liquid inside of me? And then you just have to take it home and just put it somewhere for the next time you need drinks? Yes.

That's great. A slab per person per day. I'm pretty sure that's right. That's so good. So good rule. So anyway, they've made it to Bathurst. They've made it to Bathurst. So it's now...

Can't track a slab, but they've got slabs on them. That's true. Are they tracking devices and slabs? There might be. Mitchell, throw it out the window. So, and I'm assuming, so it's not clear, there's not heaps of information about this story, even though it is quite a well-known one.

It's one of those ones where there's that's written about in a lot of different sources. But it's all with pretty much very quite similar details. Yeah. But I'm assuming they've slept in the car. Five of them in this Subaru. And they're adults. It's not like the kids are chill, little kids, you know,

who could maybe curl up in the back seat. They're fully grown adults. No, thank you. Not the way my dad snores. Around 7am the following day, Tuesday, August 30th, at Kelso, a suburb of Bathurst, Mitchell splits from his family after deciding, to head home via Sydney on the train.

He's had enough of whatever's going on. He's heading home. So they've driven through the night, 760K is away and he's gone, I'm going to take multiple trains and head back home. He's having phone withdrawals. Yeah. I've got to go back to that phone.

I've got to go get my phone. That phone means so much to me. I'm feeling a bit like an angry bird right now. I'm going to get out of this car. So now just the four of them. The Trump's head southeast to the Janolan Caves near the Blue Mountains. with the John Olin Caves?

No. I hadn't heard of them, but I looked up the website. It looks magnificent. Cool. According to the state New South Wales tourism website, John Olin Caves is one of the great natural spectacles in Australia, the most ancient open caves in the world with arguably the most beautiful limestone formations.

Tucked in a remote valley in the southern blue mountains national park, this labyrinth of stalact-tight-line chasms carved by pure underground rivers is a must-do extension for any visit to the Blue Mountains. So I don't know if all of a sudden they've gone, well, while we're in the area. This is a must-see. I might have been there. You might have been to...

The Janollon. Arguably the most beautiful limestone formations in the world? Yeah, maybe. The most ancient open caves? You'd remember that, man. Well, we went to some caves, but I was quite little. It's like four or five. There's pictures.

That was probably them. Wow. How many caves have we got here, you know? It's probably there. Good question. Mum, dad, let me know. Give some context first, because I won't remember what you're talking about. If you're just like, yeah, we've been there.

What are you talking? Are you losing your mind, Mum? Do we have to look into homes? I love the idea that this family went to like the information chaos. Yeah. What's around here? We're fleeing mysteriously. What should we see while we're here?

What do you see when you're fleeing? We've got time to kill. What do you see when you flee? That's nice. I'd buy that book. That is good, yeah. What you see when you flee? What you see when you flee.

That's beautiful. I'd be like, oh, this is going to be a tale of, you know. The Choms Guide to Tourism, New South Wales. Okay, yes. Why the family went there is unknown, apart from obviously, you know, beauty. Beautiful ambiance.

But what is known, the daughters, Rihanna and Elfell. Ella at this point decide to split off from their parents. Oh, they split the party twice. They've already split the party twice. And we know from an early episode, Birkenwills, you never split the party. Do not split the party? Especially if you're deep inside a cave.

That's ridiculous. The trumps, they push Birkenwills for the most party splitting that we've ever come across. Yeah, wow. If mum and dad split as well, that would be quite impressive. So they've just left their parents and said, we're going back as well. It's unknown why, but they've split up. Interesting. They do this by stealing a car and driving to Golbin,

which is about 150 kilometres south of the caves. Perhaps they went to Golden to see Rambo, the big concrete Merlino Ram, one of Australia's famous big things. Yeah. Seems like maybe they're just on a bit of a tourist circuit at this point. According to the Big Marino's website, The big marino built in 1985 is a monument to Goldburn and the surrounding districts fine wool industry standing 15.2 meters high, 18 meters long and weighing at 97 tons at the

time of construction. He is an impressive life-like model of Rambo, a stud ram from a local property. What a stud. We spoke about Rambo in length on a bonus episode about Australia's big things. I think that was about, did that about a year ago. If you want to check that out, as well as 130 other

fantastic bonus episodes, you can sign up to dogonpod.com or patron.com slash dogolempod and hear all about it. Other classics on that episode, Plotty, do you remember Plotty? Oh yeah, I love Plotty.

Plotty was so good. The diplodocus. Yes. And what else was there? The giant potato. Giant potato. Yeah. Which some people thought looked like a big shit.

It's the big, wasn't it's the big shit. That was a really fun episode. Yeah, there are, we found dozens of them around Australia. There's so many. And I think,

yeah, I think, who was it? I think Saraj might have even put together a bingo game and he then went around and took photos with all these big things and won his own bingo game.

Saraj, one of our great listeners and supporters. Love it. Anyhow, so they went to Goldman. So they've stolen a car too. Would you know, how to steal a car. Nah.

Well, I mean, if the keys are left in the ignition, it's very easy. That's their assumption. Well, we could have any of these. They're like, what about that, Ferrari? Why not? Yeah, well, I just assume the keys are in the ignition. That's weird that I'm even saying,

because that's just how keys are in ignitions. Maybe, and then they get lucky it's the one car with the keys. And they're like, well, I guess everyone does it. My car doesn't have an ignition anymore. I ripped it out. No, no, my... Pop that thieves. Yeah, so that makes me feel safe, actually.

Great. I won't leave the keys in the... ignition for someone to steal it. You've got a push button ignition, do you? Yeah, yeah. Oh, very fancy. It feels fancy. That is very fancy.

Thank you so much. I'm doing very well. It's an old car. That, as far as I knew, it was only sports cars and Ferrari top cars that did that. Yeah, well, yeah, I've got a sports Ferrari. Do you have a sports Ferrari? I've got a sports Ferrari. Bloody hell.

One simply must have a sports Ferrari. Real upgrade from your old regular Ferrari. Yeah. It was embarrassing driving it around, actually. I just thought, Jess, you're 30. You know, it stopped driving the car you had since you were 22. I love the idea of, you know how like a Ford or a Holden or a Toyota? They'll have their standard Camry.

And then there'll be like a Camry Sport edition, which will have like a spoiler on it or maybe like a lift kit or something. Probably not a lift kit, but it'll have like a side skirts and a stripe. I love the idea of Ferrari. Oh yeah, what did you get, a Ferrari sports edition. Yeah. It's got a strap on it. Put a spoiler on it.

Whoa. Oh, you really flashed up that Ferrari. The steering wheel's sports of steering wheel. Yeah. It's got a leather seats. It's got a 13th cylinder. Bucket seats. Yeah.

It's honestly very uncomfortable and impractical. And cost me way more. Wait, what were we talking about? They stole the car. They went to Goldburn. They're in Goldman. Goldben. Home of Rambo. You're in Golden. You're the sisters.

You've just split from your parents. What do you do? Go to the Rambo. You're split from each other. Of course. No. So Ella decides to continue driving the stolen car back home to Sylvan while Rihanna stowed away in the back of a random man's yute while it was parked at a service station. She just jumped in a guy's yute. Okay.

I thought that happens in movies. Some weird stuff is going on in this family. Do you, as a Ute, you used to have a Ute, Matt, did you check the back of the Ute? Never check the tray. You got to check the tray, I'm now realizing. Yeah. Check the tray, especially if you're stopping at a bloody road, you know, one of those big roadhouses on major freeways, major highways that like, they're massive. Oh, you must check the tray.

You simply must check the tray. I'm checking the back seats of my hatchback to make sure no one's going to pop up. Yeah, well, I mean, if someone pops up from the tray, you're like, all right. Yeah, you're outside the case. car. Yeah. But I feel like this was like a twin cab. I don't know that for sure.

I'm pretty sure this was a twin cab and she got in the back, like the back of the... No. Yes. Of the car part. She's not in the tray. I think so. Fuck. That's terrifying.

But if, if you'd like, we can get this story from the horse's mouth. Keith himself, the man driving the youth. Keith, he was driven by a horse. You hear Keith, you think horse? Well, you said horse's mouth. Okay, sorry. Dave, Davey is very literal. Some great association there.

I once knew a horse name Keith, only Keith I've ever known. This is my cousin Keith. The horse. Who at the time was 14, 15. I am. I know, for you, it's Gregs and Garys, but my favourite comedy name is probably Keith. Keith is fantastic.

Keith is in the same family as Greg and Gary. Keith, or of you, Keith. Keith, Keith is amazing. Oh, yeah, Keefe. Do you want to ask you in last night? I mean, watch the Harry Potter movies. Okay. He who shall not be named on the screen.

And I'm like, that man's name is Ralph. Ralph. Ralph Fides has like the fanciest fucking name. Like his middle names are ridiculous. He sounds so hoity-to-to-y. But his name is Ralph. Doesn't he pronounce it Rafe or something as well? Which is, it's like, mate, we know who you are.

It's Ralph. You're Ralph. Is it Rafe, he says? something like that? Yeah, I think you're right because as we were watching, my partner was like, is that Ray Fines?

I was like, that's Ralph Fides. Ralph? Anyway. Which is a word for spewing. That's up there, I think, with Keefe. Ralph is good. Ralph.

Did you ever watch King Ralph? Yes. Of course. There was, the setup for the film is the whole English monarchy, the whole extended family, a meeting for a family reunion.

It's raining. They have a big family portrait, and it's one of those big old school cameras and the leads are going through the water. They're standing in the water. And the photo electrocutes and kills the whole extended family. So the next person they can find, next in line for the throne,

is an American man, played by John Goodman called Ralph. And then the film's about King Ralph tearing it up at Buckingham Palace. Probably with a beautiful ending, I imagine. Geezy was a fish out of water though With a harder goal That's

Matt's review I think I would love to You should have your own Like review show Jeez he was a fish out of water That's great That's very funny Sorry

She's stowed away in Keith's car Which is So well And now we're going to hear from The horse Keith himself Yeah, we assume, I mean, I had been assuming as a man, but there is nothing explicitly here to say that it is a man. If a horse was to drive a human man, if a horse was to drive a car, it would be a twin cab.

Yeah, surely. I think it would be a convertible. Yeah. A bit more clearance. So, David Cole reported on what happened next in the Goldman Post writing. Goldman resident Keith Whitaker said the drama began when he pulled into a Caltech service station and Goldburn in his white Ford F-250 dual cab Ute on Tuesday around 11am.

That's probably where I got the dual cab bit from. I'm like, in my head, I'm picturing a dual cab for some reason. I think it's a dual cab. This is directly from the horse's mouth now. I filled up with petrol and drove off on my way to Canberra for a doctor's appointment. Keith, did you pay? Yeah, if you're telling us every bit, Keith. Yeah.

And then I paid, I used the card. Yeah. I also bought a... A little milky way. A golden rough and a milky way. Bought a scratchy did not win. And a chucky milk for my drive. I got to Lake George when I felt a kick to the back of my seat.

Imagine that. You're on the highway. No. You're doing 110. You feel a kick in the back of your seat. No. I turned around and saw two legs stretched across the back between my seat and the floor. She was lying on the floor

Mr. Whitaker said I got an extreme shock I pulled over in a rest area He had to wait for a rest area I had to wait 18 kilometres So I was just Please don't kill me Please don't kill me

Yeah wouldn't know The assumption would be Someone's in the back of my car They're probably not here To give me an extra chocolate rough That would scare the shit out of me Well he was in extreme shock Yes.

About 20 minutes later, the young woman sat up and was staring straight ahead. Sorry, 20. What happened? So this is after he's pulled over us. What happened for 20 minutes? She just stays still in the car. I think that is what happened. Oh my God.

But that gives cops enough time to get to you. Interesting to say that. Not quite actually. Was he just sitting there going, I don't know what to do. I'll wait for her to make the next one first move. That's what it sounds like, right? Oh my God. So he waits 20 minutes.

Then she sits up, staring straight ahead. I asked her who she was and if she was all right. She did not know her name and had no idea where she was. I asked her if she needed any water or anything or was in any way injured. And she said no. Then I called the police. Oh my God, Keith. 20 minutes has gone by.

Although, like, is it a crime to hide in someone's car? It should be. it's questionable. I feel like it's right on that grey. Is it a crime to give someone a spook? You're breaking into their car. Sure you can't do that. Surely you can't do that.

Yeah. And it's a sussing. It's a suss thing to do to hide in someone's car. You know? I would have called the cops much sooner, to be honest. Probably before the, you're pulling over. Well, my sports Ferrari has Bluetooth.

So while I'm driving still, I reckon. And a panic button. Yeah, yeah. So I would have just, I would have gone. Hey, Siri, call police. Hey, Siri. Panic. I actually just set her off.

No, no, no, all good. Hey, Siri. Just to confirm, you're panicking. Siri, set off the back ejector seat. Yeah. Boy, yo, yo, yo. I can't believe you just sat there for 20 minutes. Amazing.

Like there was a snake in the back and if he moved, it might buy them. Yeah. So he waits at 20 minutes. Then she sits up. He talks to her and he goes, oh, this is, now this is a bit weird. I'm going to call the police. Sounds like he's been very calm and kind. Wow.

More like, is everything okay? Why are you here? Something bad happened to you. Yeah. You need water. Are you all right? Yeah. You're not a threat to me.

Something's obviously happened to you. Yeah. Yeah, he seems like he's, yeah, good instincts as well because, I mean, yeah, potentially it was clear that she was in shock or. Did he call the doctors and let them know he wasn't making the appointment? Oh, yeah, good point. He'd be running really late. Look, you won't believe this.

But he's three hours late and he's still on time He's bloody doctors He walks in and they're like Keith He's like Perp nailed it Yes So he calls the police And then he says until the police arrived She mostly sat and stared straight ahead

As if she was catatonic They arrived about an hour later And took her back to Goldburn police station Hey I found a woman in my car She doesn't know who she's and where she's from Yeah no worries we'll get to that at some point I'm sitting on the side of the road. Yeah, we'll get there.

I reckon you're chucking the lights on and getting there. Yeah, that one seems weird. I don't know police business, to be honest, but it feels like an hour. It's not life-threatening, so it's not. How do you know? I know. Who knows what they're up to? Yeah.

Could have been lunch break time or whatever. Could have been a murder that day. There could have been multiple, multi-murters. Who knows? We just don't know. Could have been a murder and somebody jaywalking. Gollban. Gobin might be the Mount Thomas of New South Wales.

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Mount Thomas being the fictional town where Blue Heelers, well, it's real in our hearts, fictional in the real world. And it's like a town of 50 people where there was a murder or big crime every Tuesday night. Whenever the show aired. Crazy. I wouldn't live there. I'd be locking my door on Tuesday night.

Keith described Rihanna as a well-dressed young woman and says she offered to give me $50 for my trouble. But I said no, thanks. I was just glad to help her. Mr. Whitaker said he had come forward to remind people to check unattended vehicles on returning to them. Yeah. Which is, I mean, I've never done that. But I reckon you will every time now.

I will at least the next couple days. I look in the back seat as I get in the car. I said, well, I don't know I should be doing that. I'll do it. I just have a little look. Yeah? Everything's normal. Yeah?

Oh, the dog's still there. I've been shopping for hours. No, I don't do that. And what do you do if you find someone there? It hasn't happened, thankfully. Okay. But I guess, uh, run. I'd usually wait 20 minutes.

Yeah, then I'd run. That's what I'd say. Are you okay? To see if the situation just resolves itself. Yeah, that makes sense. Whoa. He sounds really nice. Does sound nice.

Got on you, Keith. Yeah, good on you, Keith. Sort of like, you know, ages ago we were talking about how you, was it, you always check your shoes if they'll have to be. outside for spiders? Yeah. And I'm like, I've never,

I've never done that. And then I'm like, you only need to find a spider once to start doing that. I feel like you'll squish him. So I guess maybe that's your being kind of the spider. No, I'm not kind of the spider.

I don't want a spider anywhere near me. Get away. Die. Ugh. You know one for the cup and paper trick? My partner isn't. That's what he does. And I'm like,

Kill it! Kill it! How far away? It's got a scent for us. You better, you better drive it across town before. throws it out the front door and I'm like, it's just going to come straight back in.

We have a nice place. It's nice in here. Why wouldn't he want to come back in? He enjoys the decor. In the aftermath of all this, actually just before this, while the sisters were still together, they reported their parents as missing to the police.

Oh, interesting. So they report them as missing and that's why the police go to search the Sylvan property because their daughter. They'd split off from their parents. They're obviously worried about them or whatever, and they report them missing.

So the police go to the Sylvan property, they're finding all the strange keys in the ignition. And who's home when the cops get there? All the kids are back home by that. No one's home. Oh, no one's home. It's only the next day. They haven't had a chance to get home yet.

It's the next day. Ella arrives home in the stolen vehicle later in the day, and the cops are still there apparently. She's like, hey. Hey, this is stolen. Yeah, this car, I've always owned this car. This is a silver, yeah, this is a silver Peugeot. Yeah, it is.

Yeah, it's different badges and color. Okay, I customized it. I customized it's not a wagon. It's not a legal. What are you doing in my house? It's got a push button ignition. Gosh, it's something I did for it. Wow.

Imagine doing that for a house. You just have a button instead of a keyhole. That's good. to open that. Yeah. The whole thing opens. Yeah, the whole house opens up. Yeah, that's great.

Every door. Every door opens. Yeah. Things fall out. That is a great idea. I need to think this through further, but it's sand. I haven't thought of anything. Yeah.

Any sort of downside yet. So Ella and Rihanna are both charged with stealing the car. Okay. Because they stole the car. Look, that's fair. Which was pretty clear. Once this story sort of comes out, if you're that person whose car was And would you be a bit like, whoop?

Like, at least your car was stolen in a kind of cool story, you know? It wasn't just taken for a bit of a spin by 14-year-olds and then set on fire. Yeah. And you get it back pretty soon. It's done a few extra Ks though. Yeah. That gets you closer to your next service. Bloody out.

Throwing a service and maybe we can come to an arrangement here. A bit of petrol money wouldn't kill you. Bring it back with a full tank, would you? Yeah, full tank. Maybe a boot full of red currents. Hey? Hey? Maybe a slab or two.

One per person. One for me, one for my friend Barry. So she talks to the cops as well. She cooperates with them. All right, let's go to the next day. Wednesday, August 31. The following morning, Mitchell arrived home, having caught a series of trains from Bathurst via Sydney.

So he left way sooner than his sister, but she made it back a lot faster. How many trains does this guy's caught? And he's got no cards or anything on him. So how has he? the train cash so they

they took took cash with them I think they because they it seemed like they were planning to just leave

and not come back wow so they just had cash um that's why uh Riana was offering 50 bucks

yeah right imagine I'm picturing a big wad of cash she's got a massive water of cash she's only offering you 50 you're like

uh thanks don't don't you pity me the disrespect so yeah so now Mitchell and Ella are back, they cooperate with police.

Ella lets them know that the last she saw of her parents was at the Genolyn Caves. That had already been reported to the New South Wales Police, but they're communicating as well, Victoria and New South Wales Police. So the New South Wales Police have gone to the caves and searched the surrounding areas, but there is no trace of Kobe or Mark. There's no trace of them because they had already left the area heading south again. crossing back over the Victorian border and arriving in Wangaratta around 590 kilometres south-west of the Genolan Caves.

Whoa. Another big drive. Yeah. And they're really zigzagging now. Yeah, it's interesting. Basically drop the kids off north and they've come back down. I'm thinking, keep going north. The weather gets nicer.

Yeah. Beautiful beaches. Get into Queensland. Gorgeous. Sure. Why are you going back into Victoria? You got a problem with Wangaratta? Not at all.

I have a problem with Victoria. Right. Well, that's where Wayne. Especially in August. It's cold. Oh, what are you doing? Bloody lockdown state, am I right?

Head north. Well, yeah, I mean, you're in Wang Grada, not too far from the ski fields there. Yeah, it can be nice. You know, there's some beautiful tourist spots around the place. We're just saying how I would ride trip. We know the trumps love a tourist destination. They love it.

Yeah, you're right. But they could be heading for Hollywood on the Gold Coast. Oh, that's true. The ultimate tourist destination. Exactly. Three park? Three-pass. Super Park, yes.

Three parks, super pass. Geez, that was, whenever I heard that as a kid, my ears pricked up. Three Park Super Parks. You're like, that is a good deal. Is that possible? I don't know much, but I know that's a good deal. And then can we add a two park super pass from Dream World and wet, wet Dream World? Wet Dream World.

Is that what it's called? Wet Dream World. Wet Dream World. Yeah. Oh my God, I did not even, did not even use that why you were going, you were, you were saying it's me like. Funny watching him work that out. So many of the things that seem like I'm making a pun is that.

Fully unintentional. All right. I again got stuck in a little rabbit hole. For Wangaratta? Wangaratta. Because I'm like Wangaratta. I know Nick Cave lived there. He was born in Warwicknabille, but I know he lived some of his early years in Nick.

In Nick Cave. In Nick Cave. And so what they're doing? They're touring the best caves of Australia. That's true. You are good. You're piecing this together. But yeah, there is a big mural of Nick Cave there in Wangorado, I believe. But I'm like, oh, I wonder if there's any other notable residents of Wangorata.

So I'm looking at it. Turns out Aussie War Hero, Sir Weary Dunlop was born there. Cool. You're familiar with... Yeah, I know Weary Dunlop. And so you probably, I was going to say this, this might be interesting for some listeners who don't know. You know where he got the nickname. classic sort of like two degrees of separation,

punish nickname on Dunlop is a brand of ties, tired, weary, that's how he got his nickname. Yeah, it's like on the edge of good and awful. I love it. Yeah, right. Big fan, love that. It's funny, like we all know him as Weary Dunlop and that was just because his name was also a brand name for ties.

Love that. Huge fan. Oh my God, I cannot get over that. So good. Something I didn't know. Weary. Another word for dying. That's amazing.

Something I didn't know about him was he grew up playing Aussie rules football, but then took up rugby union in 1931. You're the big union rugby fan of the pod box. Do you know this about him? No, I didn't actually. So this is wild to me. Just a brief detour here, much like we're on our own road trip. And I went going past and there's a signpost saying,

Weary Dunlop fact. I'm like, oh, guys, mind if we just turn off here for a quick... Have a look at a fact. Maybe we could get a Nienish tart and a pie. Oh, my God, yeah. Oh, I'm listening? So he grew up playing Aussie rules football, Victoria, that makes sense. But he took up rugby union in 1931 as a 24-year-old

playing for the Melbourne uni fourth grade team. You know, pretty low, low-level rugby. But he quickly progressed through the grade. Obviously, it was pretty handy. Worked his way up third grade, second grade, first grade. Then he made the state team and finally the national team. What? In 1932, he played for the wallabies.

Wow. He played in 1931, fourth grade, first time. In 1932, he played for Australia. Wow. Isn't that wild? I've never heard of anything like that. Is it just sort of like one of those things where you're like, you know, I haven't really played a lot of, a lot of,

A lot of rugby and I go, look, mate, we'll start you in the falls. Yeah, yeah. You'll be right. You'll pick it up. And then they see him play and go, yeah, we're going to have to bump him up. Yep. All right, bump him up again and again. Yeah, actually, yeah, no, none of these are quite good enough.

Can we create a new level, like some sort of an intergalactic level for him to play? He's actually a little too good for the wallabies. That's amazing. I didn't know that at all. Yeah, it's like, oh, you're a war hero. but also I just didn't know we played for the wallabies at all, let alone that sort of meteoric rise. He was the first Victorian player to represent the wallabies.

He was part of the first Aussie squad to win the Blederslow Cup off New Zealand. Cool. And he remains the only Victorian to have been inducted into the Australian Rugby Union Hall of Fame. Wow. The only Victorian. Holy shit.

Amazing. That's incredible. What a great little side street we just took on our road trip. Anyway, let's head back. That was worth it. I was worth it. I know when we were on the Hume and I was like, oh, it says it's a few Ks off the Hume.

I don't want a detour that far. I was wrong. You know, that was worth it. The sign said, Australia's best pie. Yeah, it was a worthy detour. Dave's happy. He's got a pie.

It was so good. We've got a little fact. I didn't hear anything you just said. Did you get me any sweet treats from the bakery? Oh, yeah. Get me a nipies. What did you get? What did you get?

I got a range of tarts. We've got custard jelly and other. Oh. I'll have other. And other tart, please. I reckon people who have tuned in going, I'm finally so glad to hear this story of the Trumps. They'll be loving this.

They'll be loving these detours. They will not at all be getting frustrated or be yelling at their iPods. Hey, it's a new year. We're feeling a little loose, a little spilly. We've just come back from holidays. Well, yeah, I know your USS being the podcast, who stays on topic just gets the facts out. But we're trying something different this time.

We're like, we're just having to be a far. Sorry, we're getting a little. Weary of these stories. You know, Dave, it's interesting you say that. All right, let's get back to the trumps. So Kobe and Mark arrive in Wangarata home of Weary Dunlop, by the way. Only Victorian to be inducted into the rugby hall of fame. So anyway, so Kobe and Mark arrive and Wenger out.

Soon after, for the final time, they split the party again. Oh, my God. They split up. every possible combination. Whoa. They started out as a fivesome and they've ended up as five singles. Kobe leaves Mark and travels back up north to Yass. Yass.

Around Yars. Is she taking the Persia? No, she's taken the public transport. Oof. The people's Persia. Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, Yars is about 350 kilometers away. It's not known why they split up or why Kobe heads back north again, possibly because

she knows what she believes her daughters are up in that direction. Maybe she's like, actually, I want to go back and catch up with them again. Can't call them. No, exactly. And yeah, they don't know how she got there, but it was probably train and bus or a combination. That evening, after 10 p.m., a young couple are out playing Pokemon. go in Wang Grada. There you go.

That is your earlier question. I was wondering if you would have if you would have remember that because it was hot at the time. Oh my God. It was a period of wild. It was all you could just go anywhere around Melbourne there'd be clumps of people.

It was dangerous. People were like getting hurt. Yeah, periods of people like falling off cliffs and stuff because they weren't looking. They're like, oh, well there's a jiggly puff over here. Oh no! Seriously. Generations from now.

Yeah, I lost my grand. Granddad in the Pokemon Go disaster of 2016. And you just go like, I remember like, I didn't actually see that, but I was working at the project at the time because I remember videos coming in of people like adults gathered at playgrounds at midnight and there'd be like 300 people they're all playing Pokemon. Right. It's wild.

If you were working this week, it would have, the project would have definitely been all over this Trump story. I think it was by this point, it's all over the media. Yeah. Media becomes obsessed with it. It's making front page. But did you say August 2016? Yeah.

I was in Europe at that time. Oh, there you go. Yeah, two months in Europe. All right, man. This guy. Oh, I've traveled. Get it. I'm a virgin in Europe.

We got it. How did we do the podcast? Did we bank a heap of it? I think that's the only time I've missed two episodes. Oh, that's, yeah. I think we started a rumor you'd gone for some sort of a, a camp of the topic that's the thing we don't really talk about anymore. Long listeners will know what we're referencing there.

It since got out of hand and I was... Long listeners, people who are tall. Drawn into some very upsetting memes. Yeah. We'll just stop to that one. Upsetting memes. Stuff that if you saw it without the context of the podcast, you'd be like, Jesus. Yeah, which is what started happening when people googled your name and image search.

So, yeah. We don't make that joke anymore. Anyway, so... All right, I've got to say, it was Nazis. Just in case you imagine it even worse than... It's hard to imagine, but there is not... Just in case you were thinking it was something really bad. It was just Nazis is what he's saying.

Oh, were they... Were they... When they remember it was a feminist or something terrible like that? No, Nazis. Don't worry about it. It was fine. Anyway. I was just panicking that.

I'm like, imagine what people are imagined. Yeah, you don't need that. No. You don't need it to leave it up to people's imagination. Not our listeners. No, no, no, no. I don't know how dark you're getting out there. A bunch of freaks.

So, uh, so Kobe's gone headed up back up north to Yass. But that evening, after 10 b'an, young couple were out playing Pokemon Go and Wangaratta when they notice they're being stalked by a silver perjo station wagon. Oh my God. Someone's trying to steal their magic harp. This is how many. trashy car piss off one of the

Pokemon Go players spoke to the age newspaper on condition of anonymity saying I could barely see his headlights because he was that close to my car

just that like real tailgating like bumper to bumper sort of stuff whenever they pull over the Perjo stops right behind them when they go

the perjo follows close behind again being really subtle yeah when they stopped for the final time a man believed to me Mark Trump

gets out of his car and runs towards them. Fucking hell. He then stops in the middle of the road and stares before turning and walking to Wangarada's Merroa Park disappearing into the darkness. Police later searched the park but are unable to find Tromp. They do find the Persio with its keys still in the ignition. Of course.

Classic. Is that calling card? Where else did you put on? That is terrifying. That is so scary. Obviously you don't know who this man is. is and that something has happened and he's not very well. Like, that's fucking scary.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah, very, very creepy. I don't like that at all. They also believe Trump has changed his clothes at this point. I don't know why they made that point in one of the articles. Okay. I guess it's good to know that he's keeping up with fashion trends.

We're wearing a tuxedo or something, because it was notable. Yeah, it was weird. The following day, Thursday, September 1st, around noon, Kobe is seen wandering the streets of Yass in an agitated state. Soon after, she was admitted to a hospital there. According to the Daily Mail, after being admitted, staff recognised her from media reports about her disappearance and called police. Sergeant Mark Knight said doctors at the hospital had assessed Mrs. Trump about her mental health, and it wasn't of a good standard. that's a quote from Sergeant Knight wasn't of a good standard.

He added, it was the most baffling case he had dealt with in more than 30 years on the force. I believe from there, Kobe reunited with her eldest daughter, Rihanna, at a mental health facility for treatment. I think that was in Goldman.

Wow. All right, next day, Friday, September 2nd. That following morning, Mitchell appears on the Today Show, hoping to get his dad home safe. So now it's only Mark who is unaccounted for. Last he was seen. He was believed to be running into that park in Wengerado.

Does he know his dad's a big fan of Carl Stefanovic? So you're tuning in every morning. That's right. To watch the Today Show. That might have been it, yeah. And Mitchell's well enough to appear on TV and... Yes, well, it seems like Mitchell of the family was the least affected by whatever's happened here. Wow.

He was the one who brought his phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was sort of... He almost went along because he said that he was worried he just wanted to see where they were going and stuff. So yeah, it makes sense that he'd be the one talking to the media. He's asked why his dad might not want to return home. Mitchell replies, he's scared that people are after him. He's not in a good state of mind.

It remains unclear who these people might have been. Mitchell continues, I've never seen anything like. like it. It's really hard to explain or put a word on it, but they were just fearing for their lives and then they decided to flee. I've never seen my parents or anyone go to this extreme. It's nothing I've ever dealt with before, but I've had a lot of family support around me lately, and hopefully some good comes out of this, and my dad comes home and he's safe and well. At around 9.30 a.m., the owners of the Miller's Cottage Motel in Wangarada found one of their rooms had been broken into. The door had been left a jar, the bathroom seemed to have been used and the bed slept in.

There was also a musli bar wrapper on the floor. Okay. He's had a snack. This is a sign. And when it says bathroom is used, has he failed to flush? Well, it said seem to have been used. So I'm guessing there's just a few droplets of water in the shower or something. You know those old school motels where they'd put like a paper seal on the toilet?

Yeah, there was a shit on that. He could not open it. He couldn't work it out. How do I get this seat off? He just shat on top of it. And look, I get it. And they're like, I think a human might have been in here. Not sure, though.

Can't be sure. We're saying it off to the lab. It's just a theory I have. This same day an article about the trumps is published in the age. In it, he says of, this same day, an article about the trumps is published in the age. In it, saying, it says of the case, Sergeant Mark Knight of Mumbulk knows the family and says they have no diagnosed mental health problems or drug issues.

No one in the family is accessed, accessed. Access. Geez, I'm struggling with some basic words. No one in the family had accessed a doctor or psychologist recently, which seems like wild information to be giving the public. Or being issued a prescription, he says. They do not belong to any churches or sects and do not have any debts. He's baffled.

Okay. On Saturday, next day, Saturday, September the 3rd at 5.50pm, Trump is seen walking along the side of a road near Wangarada Airport. He's picked up and escorted back to the Wangarada Police Station where he's interviewed and after about five hours released. A family member collects him from the station amongst a throng of waiting media. Possibly his brother's a cop back home in Victoria. I was possibly read somewhere that it might have been him.

Yeah, right. was looking after him. So the media's there waiting, asking questions stuff. He flips him the bird. Classic. Mitchell and Ella speak to the media from their home and Sylvan, letting them know they appreciate everyone's concern.

According to a news.com article from the time, Mitchell said he did not feel in danger when he joined the family trip. Quote, I had to go with the family because I wanted to see where they were going. I couldn't leave them. But yeah, it was tough to see your family like that, and I've never seen anyone like it. Ask what triggered the trip, Ella said. It is very confusing.

I still feel confused. I think our state of minds wasn't in the best place, and there's no one reason for it. It's bizarre. So he was sort of swept up in it, but isn't really sure what happened. It's just amazing to be in the middle of it, and like something was going on,

but I don't even really know what it was. Yeah. And this is after a few days of being able to process it's still unsure. Mitchell said all he felt was relief and that that morning was the first time he hadn't woken up crying in a few days. Wow. In hindsight, I should have stayed with the Mitchell said of his decision to be the first

to separate from the family. The siblings were reluctant to expand further on details saying police are still investigating. More than anything, we are just happy that dad's alive and he's going to come back home. and all the family is going to come back home and we can get back to normal, Ella said. They're also really excited because I don't know if it was that week or in the coming weeks it was Father's Day. So they're like, oh, so glad I'd have Dad back for Father's Day. That's nice.

Asked again by a journalist if he knew what sparked the incident. Mitchell Trump said there were a few things, but nothing he could state for sure saying there are possible things, but I can't say at this stage because I'm not saying. certain. I can see why the public want to know, but it's a family matter and we just want the family to be back together and for everything to work itself out and I think it will. So he's sort of, he's like suggesting that there's something, but he says he can't say what it is and that's still not clear what those things were because they've been very private about it ever since. In the following days, Rihanna and Kobe were released from their treatment facility and the family is all

reunited and heads back to the farm and by the sounds of it have gotten their life back to normal as they were hoping. So what happened? Yeah. It's still unclear. But there's theories. Some seemingly more solid than others. Yeah. Well, let's go through a few of them. One of the prominent theories at the time was that the family had been affected by chemicals used on the farm or perhaps their water supply had been affected by a toxin somehow, and that led to a collective paranoia. This seems to have been ruled out, though, after an inspection of the farm found no traces of anything,

stuff like that. Yeah, that was my sort of, I was like gas leak. Always think gas leak. Yeah. But yeah, that would sort of make sense, but if that... Apparently, it's been, yeah, it's been ruled out. Yeah. I mean, I'm not willing to rule anything in or out right now.

I think that's wise. Another theory is that the family owed some bad people money, and were fleeing from them, which might explain why they had been sorting through their financial records before suddenly leaving the house. As they realized, oh no, we don't have any money. Yeah, apart from this cash that we're leaving. This was also ruled out by authorities

who said the family businesses were all profitable and they weren't in any financial stress. Though some argue that there could have been other unknown debts that the cops don't know about, but there doesn't seem to be any evidence. of this. But who, I mean, who knows? We have seen that they have withdrawn $50,000.

And it does appear to be a $50,000 credit in a bank account of a known mob boss. But we cannot be sure. And we did find Keith's head in the bed. It's Keith's a horse. Oh. others have suggested that they were involved in some sort of a cult and were attempting to flee but you heard the policeman knight who knew the family quite well saying it was trying to dispel that to the media saying they're not involved in any cults or religious organizations

because that was a rumor that was or a theory that was sort of spreading around because it really caught the nation's attention at the time and so everyone had their theory and maybe part of the reason why they're like hey this is a family matter just leave us a lot that would be pretty respectful apart from when Mark flipped him the bird

he later sort of apologised for that sorry about that everyone when he said sort of apologise well you know I didn't say I'm sorry that I flipped you the bird he said something like I really appreciate everyone's concerned sort of thing

I went to give a thumbs up I put the wrong finger up and it was too late the car was gone I was like, oh no Oh dear, what have I done? I said to the driver, do a you two and they refused. I went to do this.

Give me a thumbs up and then one of these to show you my wedding ring. I've never had great dexterity or control of my digits. I apologize. So yeah, there's a few of the vaguely believable ones.

Yeah. Then there's ones that are even more believable such as... More people? there are some and you still see them commenting on on clips or threads online saying that it seems to point pretty clearly to an alien encounter. Yeah. I think that's pretty clear and obvious. They don't extrapolate a lot from that but I think you sort of can join the dots there.

Your tone is sounding almost sarcastic. But this. I really, that's very flattering to suggest I have more than one tone. This is number one. theory aliens. I agree. That's the only thing like I was thinking this whole time I've just been thinking alien and aliens.

Well now how does the aliens play into this? What do you think's happened there? Buzzdom. Yep. And then came down when was. Aliens have said what we need you to do is go to a big cave and then visit the home of Nick Cave and then split the party. And they did exactly that.

They did everything that were instructed to. Well if that, yeah, no, I hadn't really, now that you've said it like that, that does make a lot more stuff. Okay, here's what happened. So aliens come down. They're like, hello, where aliens. I know this can be a little confronting for you. We are super friendly, stoked to be here.

To, you know, as a gesture, we would love to invite you to our spaceship for dinner. And the family were like, that's actually really nice. Let's go. So off they go, nobody at the time realized that human stomachs cannot process alien food. Oh, no. It's just food poisoning. It's made it a bit loopy.

Okay. And it wears off. Yeah. And of course they're being secretive because I don't want to give away the aliens because not everybody's going to be so welcoming. Yeah, that's true. You know what the feds are like. They're always like, oh, I'll get these aliens and it's like,

fuck molders sort of the exception, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot more scullies than molders, you know what I mean? Yes. That's one of the more believable theories. Also, another one that I think is pretty solid. Solid would be that demonic possession was involved. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sorry, I confused my theory. I actually think this is right. Yeah, okay. So maybe Mark. Is a demon? Well, has been possessed. At the very least. At the very least, by a demon.

And then, you know, and you know what demons are like? Love a road trip. They love road trips. Yeah. They love the Prince of Darkness, Nick Cave. Yes. That's true. This makes sense.

So that, yeah, that one, I mean, I don't have to go on to that too much. But I think that one, obviously, is a, I'll put that in the maybe pile. But the most. persistent theory, and this is the one that, if this was solved, this is what people would say is the truth. I mean, the alien people would also say they've solved it with their theory. But most persistent theory is that the family was suffering from a shared psychotic disorder, also known as a folly adieu, which I think is French for, I think it's French for madness of two. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Am I saying d, right? Oh yeah. According to a US government health website, the term folly adieu includes several syndromes in which mental symptoms, particularly paranoid delusions, are transmitted from one person to one or more others with whom the apparent instigator is in some way intimately associated

so that he or she and they come to share the same delusional ideas. Although this condition involves two people, It can extend from the original subject to three, four or five persons, aka folly a three, four, fourie a quattra, folie a chinkwe, or even a whole family.

Folly a family. Which I guess is what's happening in this case. Even though it's all what people talk about, I always say folio de. Yeah. But apologies to the French listeners. I know that this would be making you yell at your iPods right now. An exact figure for the instance.

and prevalence of a folly ed is not available it is certainly more common in isolated communities and families where there is a great urge to defend the status quo so i mean isolated families are a family on a farm working seven days a week together yeah all very close it very insular world they've created yeah according to this great compendium uh found wikipedia.org are you familiar with this is that a french website Yeah, I think it's actually a French website, mainly about French psychiatric disorders and these sort of things. Oh, that's really niche. Yeah, it is pretty niche, but it's pretty in depth in that niche, which is, you know, the internet's got the ability to do that.

So check it out if you're interested in those sort of things. Wikipedia.org writes, while the exact causes of shared delusional disorder are unknown, the main two contributors are stress and social isolation. So potentially both of those are ticked. Now, people who are socially isolated together tend to become dependent on those they are with, leading to an inducer's influence on those around them. Additionally, people developing shared delusional disorder do not have others reminding them that their delusions are either impossible or unlikely. You know, if you're going out and you're working with different groups and socialising

with another group, you're probably talking about these things. They're going, oh, no, that's pretty unlikely that people are after you or whatever. It's pretty unlikely aliens are after you. Yeah. What are you talking about? Because of this, treatment for shared delusional disorder includes those affected be removed from the inducer. Stress is also a factor because it triggers mental illness. The majority of people that develop shared delusional disorder are genetically predisposed to mental illness,

but this predisposition is not enough to develop a mental disorder. However, stress can increase the risk of this disorder when stressed in individuals' adrenal gland releases the stress hormone cortisol into the body increasing the brain's level of dopamine this change can be linked to the development of a mental illness such as a shared delusional disorder so then this kind of seems to add up i haven't talked about that much but the kids did say that uh their dad mark was getting increasingly stressed in the lead up uh to the event so makes sense maybe that mark started to believe people were after the his money and his family slowly this idea was passed on to his partner cobi

and then it seems Rihanna was the next most affected and then maybe to a lesser extent on Ella and then not so much on a Mitchell but... Mitchell's always on his phone. He's on his phone playing Angry Birds from. Yeah, that's right. What did you say? And the bloody old people like,

oh, the kids these days are always on their phones. Well, it just saved Mitchell's life. Yes, it did. Okay. Yeah, they're all working. Like seven days a week's a hectic. You know, there's only... I know the Beatles will tell you otherwise,

but there are only seven days a week. So that's all of them. And that, you know, there's no outside, well, a few outside influences. Well, was it, Jack Nichols, and all work and no play? Yes. Go on. Ah, you know the rest. Since the incident, the trumps have returned to their farm life and have kept a low profile,

and it seems like life has returned to normal. No criminal charges came about from the road trip. after Rihanna and Ella's car theft charges were dropped. Okay. And I think the person whose car it was seemed to be okay with that. Oh, that's nice. In 2017, a year after their infamous road trip, Rihanna spoke briefly with Woman's Day magazine

and added weight to the whole folio do theory. News.com summarized saying, Mr. Trump told Woman's Day, we're all very embarrassed. We didn't want to be famous. That's for famous people. So true. Don't you reckon?

So well said. Fames for the famous. They can keep it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've always said that. But I think maybe this was possibly in response to some people like, oh, this just seems like that. Yeah.

Like, you know how cynical some people are? Oh, yeah, this is just, they're looking for attention. Here we go. They just want to be on Celebrity Big Brother. We know it. You know what they're doing. I want a family feud with Grand Denia. They're like, no, no.

We didn't want, like, what a wild way to go about it. Yeah. Ms. Trump said her father had been suffering from a mental breakdown which she now realizes had been building for some time. She said part of the reason he decided to leave the farm was because he felt like he was in danger, but also because he wanted to spend time as a family. In the interview, Ms. Trump said she did start believing her father's claims

that the family were in danger. She said she believes it was the buildup of stress that caused the incident. You have a few things and they do build up. you can get sick in some way she said so she she was really i mean you it ended up with her jumping into a guy's you yeah you know yeah and then being not forgetting who she her name and amazing this all started from her dad believing yeah uh that people were after him is yeah incredible isn't it um so yeah so that that's that seems like what it was and that's but I mean people still do talk about it as you know the internet will do that aliens and whatnot

but it seems like that's the one that makes the most sense I hadn't heard of this folia do but I'm going to finish with a few examples of it happening in other cases so many of the examples I found ended up with grisly murders unfortunately like a lot and you know like people being brought along and then believing a delusion and then uh But I'm going to give you three examples of this website. I just mentioned before, but I should give it another plug, Wikipedia.org. Oh, yep.

But these are the examples. That was one of French psychiatric disorders. Yes, which is why they have quite a few examples about folly adieu. Is it in French? I think the internet automatically translates it. Oh, that is so good. Either the internet does on what brain does. Is that possible that I can read French?

and I'm just... It's not impossible. Okay. Yeah, well, so I can't say definitively either way. Yeah, fair enough. Possibly is in French and I can just read French. Yeah, cool. And translate it into English.

That's amazing. Well, it is if it's true. Yeah. I'd be stoked if that is the case. That'd be so handy, actually. So the first one does end Grizzly, but the other two don't. Not so much. In May, this one potentially could be a tone bonus report at some point.

but very briefly in May 2008 there was a case with twin sisters Ursula and Sabina Erickson Ursula ran into the path of an oncoming truck sustaining severe injuries Sabina a twin then immediately duplicated a twin's action by stepping into the path of an oncoming car this is on film like it was played on one of those like police traffic reality shows in England. Both sisters survived the incident with severe but non-life-threatening injuries. It was later claimed that Sabina Erickson was a secondary sufferer of Folly Adieu, influenced by the presence of her sister Ursula, who was the primary.

Sabina later told an officer at the station, we say in Sweden that an accident rarely comes alone, usually at least one more follows, maybe two. She was very ominous. She was then released from hospital, behaved erratically before stabbing a man to death. Oh my God. Yeah, so that's a, that's a full-on story.

There's more to it, but, um, so that's one example. The next one. Yeah, that's one. You're not wrong. That was a grisly one. I said, wow, but I meant wow in like a bad way. Holy fuck.

Like a, oh, wow. I'm not, I'm shaking my head as I say it, you know. The next one we're kind of familiar with. In the book, Bad Blood, Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley startup, suggests that this ailment plagued the founder of Theranos, Elizabeth Holmes, and her boyfriend slash business partner, Ramesh Balwani. Can't remember if Naomi mentioned that, but yeah, supposedly that was something, maybe,

at least what one theory is about what was going on with them, was that maybe they were they were sort of feeding this delusion. I don't know if that's suggesting that they believed that this all worked. Because in that story it was pretty clear that they were cutting corners and they were lying about it. The trumps are also now featured on this wiki page as an example, as well as a bunch of other grim ones. And there's some ones not on wiki that were equally just real sad. and the last one I'll tell you about is not so grim, and I think it's the case that actually helped,

they coined the term over, so I think it happened in France. I think it wasn't in the 1800, I think it was a while back anyway. And it was briefly, a married couple by the name of Margaret and Michael were both aged 34 years, and they were discovered to be suffering from a folly adieu, when they were both found to be sharing

similar delusions. They believed that certain people were entering their house, spreading dust and fluff, and wearing down their shoes, like wearing the soles of their shoes down. Both had, in addition, other symptoms supporting a diagnosis of emotional contagion, which could be made independently in either case. So that's, I mean, it's all, it's, it's a little more harmless. Sad, but, yeah, it's all sad, but it's still like. But isn't that amazing that our bodies can do that? Yeah, I know. They can pick up on what somebody else's body is doing. Ideas can be kind of contagious.

Yeah. That's, yeah, very fascinating. Amazing. And only with people that you're like very, very close to. And that's why I keep everyone at a distance. Yes. In case.

I will not succumb. Fully a do. Safety first. You guys don't even know my real name. D. De Perkins. But I have been wearing your shoes whilst you sleep. Waring them down.

Wearing them down. Spreading dust. And fluff. yeah so i mean obviously it's ridiculous to we do this all the time with the mystery ones but and it's ridiculous that you've heard my brief version of this story do you have a

does it give you any any any instinct to what you think might have been the case yeah it felt like some sort of folly do um oh yeah i would have been leaning towards like toxins or something affecting them that way but then you would kind of think once you move away from

and you're not drinking that water, for example. Maybe it would wear off fairly quickly. But weren't they saying that like the way to get over this is to remove them from like the source? So would that be just like separate the family for a bit? Yes, which they doesn't sound like they've done, but it sounds like they've had a lot of support come in like their extended family and stuff. They're all and they're all looking after each other. Now I think once you're aware of something like this, it probably makes a lot of.

it easier to break the cycle of it or whatever. And if splitting everyone up is like the best way to do it, splitting the party, it sounds like that was actually the way to sort of one by one, they realize, hang on, what's going on. Yeah, which, yeah, sort of makes sense as to why they would start breaking off. Like, oh, this is a bit much I need to get. But then Mitchell later goes, I really should have stayed and tried to.

I know, but you think about that maybe they would have just fed each other's delusion. Yeah, exactly, yeah. And maybe done something. It probably did the right. by doing going and leaving. And it all did end up happily in the end. I thought you were going to tell us that Mark especially died. I thought they're going to,

I thought the mystery was going to be what happened to him, where's his body or something. So that's really a welcome relief. That's right. Yeah, it's rare that these kind of stories end like that. Because, you know, if it did go missing, you'd still be like, he wouldn't have been around to go, no, I didn't know anyone money.

Yeah, yeah. Well, that's because, yeah, you kept saying stuff like, it's believed, we're not sure why. thinking that means one of them's gone. Yeah. But it's just because they were in a different state. They can't answer the question. And now have been very private about it.

Yeah. Like that very short interview with Woman's Day. Yeah. Understandable being private about it, I guess. I mean, I would have done the same thing. But then like if you're private about it, you're not going to get on Celebrity Big Brother or Family Feard. That's true. So it is a win-lose scenario.

They've really wasted that opportunity. Yeah. We'd kill to be on Celebrity Big Brother. And sometimes that's what it takes. All right. Well, a great report I've got to say. I didn't know about that story. I had obviously,

I was just out of overseas for the right amount of weeks. So I wasn't across that story at all. So that was really cool. Yeah, I'm not sure why. I think I don't really follow the news that much. No, I definitely heard about it more after the fact. Right.

I don't remember, you know, seeing it reported on at the time. Because you wake up with Carl most days, don't you? I wake up with Carl. Oh yeah And whoever the co-host is Yeah Whoever it is

At the time At the time At the time It's not even Carl In Lasso is it Is Carl gone Carl's seven ovi No he's back

On the today show Oh okay Carl's back Good for Carl Carl's back He's charming He's a larican Good on him

He wore the same suit For a year Yeah As a statement It was a feminist statement And I'm like Oh Stepping on my toes

A bit there Buddy boy Back off Back off You don't lean in The ladies Lean in That's what I say

The same clothes every day. Yeah. I stink for feminism. Yeah. And as a feminist. I reek of feminism. I appreciate it.

You're a feminist too? Well, I'm a feminine. Okay. I was going to say, you better not sip on your fucking turf. I wouldn't dare. There's only room for one on this podcast. This isn't the kind of thing where it's like,

oh, I'm going to make room for you, Jess. Yeah. I'm making room for me, the feminist, the program. Yeah. The program. And I'm sorry that I take it. up so much space.

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Yeah, I love it. A bit silly. My favorite parts of our, days though is lunch oh how good is lunch we're coming up to it that's a good point you're saying we should hurry up hurry up and feed me so the red zone and you know what that means oh all right double time we're thinking of these people first up we got Matthew bore who's given himself the title of champion of whispering nice words of encouragement into an iPod yes Matthew thank you that's fantastic

Thank you so much Matthew. Do you guys ever just sort of have a feeling every now and then, just a warm feeling? Yeah. I think that's Matthew. That's Matthew. I thought it was piss. No, Dave, for you it is. But it's more of a feeling in your heart.

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Okay, and then we pause. And then I'll go pause. Yeah. That's fun. All right, Matthew continues. After seeing the pod suggested on the weekly planet, I decided to give Dogo on a listen while on a long road trip. Road trip.

After 30 minutes of trying to figure out who was Dave and who was Matt in the little bubble photo, I quickly became hooked. And after finishing the episode, maybe the Sealand one, I loaded up three more for the return trip. After pulling over the car from tears of laughter at the Mr. Hand segment in the wild. In the wild deaths episode, I knew I would be firmly on the do-go-on train. Oh, imagine that. We're literally on a beach when we were talking about Mr. Hans.

Remember, imagine that being one of the first episodes you hear of us. Everything would feel a bit tame after that. Yeah, you'd be like, oh, these guys are vanilla. I still think about how we were on that beach in front of a resort in Thailand, broadcasting out loud with a PA system. Yeah. Talking about Mr. Hans, the guy having sex with a horse,

and then there's people who have paid obviously a lot to have the beachfront cabins. Yeah. They can probably hear the episode on their entire holiday. What about the people behind us who were having dinner on the beach? Remember that set up every time? Probably going, what's happening?

What's going on? We did a stand-up show as well. On the beach and it started raining. And Tommy and Carl came to like, relieve me because I was on stage that started to rain, but I was doing well, and I said, don't you fucking come out here! If I was doing badly, it would have been like,

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That was a great night. Anyway, Matthew goes on. Over the past couple of years, you three have played I've played on the way to some of my greatest adventures and also some of the hardest drives. In the background at work and in studying breaks while retaining jobs or retraining jobs. What a funny idea to be think of work as I'm retaining my job again today. I show up to retain it.

Here I am, retaining. No, while retraining jobs. Pre-COVID and post-COVID all throughout, you three and the pod have brought a lot of joy in my life. when I need it at most. I know I'm not unique in this as so many Patreon supporters have had the same experience but I just wanted to take the time

to in some way thank you from all of us. You have truly created something more than just another podcast and I hope you know the impact you all have to those who listen. Do go on doing what you're doing. That's slightly embarrassed to reading that out of yours.

Oh my God, those. That's so nice. Thank you, Matthew Boer. I don't think you know what a brag is, but that quote a question, compliment or suggestion. We will not accept compliments. That is so lovely. Thank you for that. I think, you know, because a lot of it, a lot of what we do is not on purpose in terms of like, we're just three friends who find each other funny.

You know, there's not a lot of like, I don't know, scheming behind the scenes of like, what they like let's give them that we're just we just enjoy each other's company so that's really nice that you've enjoyed it too not a lot of scheming obviously we do a little scamming just one simply oh you must scheme oh that is so nice though wow that is so lovely thank you he's not even finished he's got he's got a line for each of us by the looks of it here Dave with the report cadence of a seasoned date line reporter many a report finished while in the driveway after being parked for 30 minutes Jess, when giving reports on an inspiring person, making you believe in humanity and want to be a better person yourself,

Matt, even given the most gruesome reports, finding a way to find the humanity in the story and injecting humour. Bloody hell, Matthew. That's so nice. Wow. Thank you, Matthew. Really, really appreciate that. Now, let's get on to somebody just giving us a fact about calm or something.

Yeah, we need a cleanser. I don't know where you're from, Matthew, but Australia doesn't have a great compliment-taking culture. Yeah, we're not good at it. Although we seem to do it okay then. The next one comes from Ben Johnson. Ben, who was at that Mr. Hans' live episode on the beach. Lucky Ben!

Appropriately so-named Johnson. He's given himself the title of Roman numeral designator LXIX Dave quick Dave LX I know X is 10 I is 1 That's L that's 19 something 19 Oh Cardi's good

Uh Anyway Ben's asked a question Oh 69 Oh cool Sorry Ben That's very good No it's probably what he wanted us to do

That's good stuff I was like, it ends in nine, what's it going to be? Come on. What's it going to be? What's it going to be? So, Ben has asked the question, hey guys, at time of writing, the new Fawza Horizon game. Well, Jess, this would be to you being our gamer. I know Dave has played that one where he hollowed out of watermelon or something.

Fruit Ninja. Thank you. Have you heard of Forsa Horizon? Yes. Great. Well, you're ahead of me. Don't know much about it. A new Foresa Horizon game just came out, and I created a DoGwan themed car to drive around this gorgeous recreation of Mexico.

I've already shared this on the Facebook group, but I require further validation from yourselves. So he said it's a picture here. Let me pull this up. Oh, sorry. Oh, do I have to, oh, sorry. Is it basically like a Pimp My Ride type game when you get to Pimp out your car? I don't know. Because that sounds fun.

You don't want to drive it. You just want to pimp it out. I'd like to drive it to the shops. Fawza Horizon. There was a version of the Sims where you could have a car. That was fun. My whole family would get in the car, go to the park. Oh, that does sound fun.

Yeah, it's nice. That's how much you love a road trip, Bob. Even sitting at home. There it is. Oh, man, there we are in Mexico. That's incredible. Wow, that pig, that does look like a beautiful graphics. This is fantastic.

We were looking at a blue combi van. I love a combi van. The do go on decal down the side, which, it's honestly my dream car. Yeah? If I was a billionaire. Just to like drive around or just to have for like road trips and stuff. I think I'd like...

Would you do up the inside so it was like a little camper? Yeah, I'd have it like beautiful old upholstery, but like, you know, nice and inside. When I was a young teen, my dream was to have one with a big TV like from Pitmy ride. Oh, hell yeah. So you play like Xbox or something in the back there. And a beanbag. Mine would be I loved the

modern day VDBedal but I think actually what I would love if I had heaps of cash is I'd have an old beetle but like do it up on the inside

hell yeah I love that that'd be sick I'd also gotta be beautiful on the inside before you can be beautiful on the outside

and that's so true and that's my problem I'm a turd on both I'm poo through and throw I'm terrible I don't I don't think anyone does say that though, do they've got to be beautiful on the inside to be beautiful on the outside.

No. It sounded like it was something. Yeah, because the beauty just oozes out of you. It was nothing. Yeah, for me, I just assume that's how it went because I'm beautiful inside and out. Oh, I know. It's intimidating. And you're, what did you say, a duh inside of out?

But, Ben, that is so cool. I think we should back enough to share that on the social media. Yeah, that's cool. I will try and remember to do that. We are recording quite a head. of time. That is a note to Matt when you're listening to this. But anyway, I did say this was a question.

Ben finished by saying, so now that travels vaguely opening up again, what exotic locations would you like to do a do-go-on podcast from, similar to the Kosa Movie Festival? Oh, that's nice. I have plans to go to Hawaii in the middle of the year, if you guys want to come. We will be joining you.

To that, that'd be nice. Yeah, I could do a little pod on the beach of Honolulu. I wonder if we have any Honoluluian listeners. Oh, let us know. Where would be fun to do? I know where Dave wants to do it. International waters, of course. Yeah.

Thank you. It's my dream to get us out on a barge. Yeah. Travel out the, what I've researched is about 300 kilometers off the coast. We get truly international waters. Start podcasting. Start gambling. My heart.

Obviously. Yeah. The whole podcast will be the rattling of dice will be sort of happening underneath. Quite distracting. We'll do a bit of a, like, Like a podcast UFC. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I'd love to do one. I'll kill you. I don't know. Overseas to be good. I'd love to do one in like in a country town somewhere in Australia, just in a caravan park or something. That would be fun. You know like in a caravan park that have the barbecue setup? Yeah.

So we do a cookup on the barbie. Yeah. Everyone just like gets a caravan or a little cabin there. Yeah. That's fun. And we do it outdoors. Yeah. Yeah, outdoors, just in the...

Yeah, I think somewhere that would be nice. Just a big fan of caravan parks. It was growing up all of my favorite holiday memories. Ben does answer the question himself, as we always encourage people to do, saying, my answer is either Japan or New Zealand, both amazing places I'd love to visit. I'd be right up for both of those as well.

That would be awesome. New Zealand feels like it... That feels more doable. Probably, I'd assume our next overseas. episode will be in New Zealand. I hope so, yeah. Japan would also be amazing. I haven't been to Japan, but I'd love to visit, and I've been in New Zealand a few times and I bloody love it. Love New Zealand. Thank you so much for that question, Ben. Our next one comes from Sophie Shooter, Robson, Shooter. She, that's a joke at her own expense

there because she seems to, she switches and chooses. Yeah, that's all right. One of those names is her knee. Yes, that's right. knee Robson I love to have a knee Just got to change my name Is that all you need? I guess so It's all you knee

Sophie Has given herself a title Group Mum No we're not nearly there yet And if you ask me again I'm turning this car around It's amazing how many Road Trip references

Yeah Can I have a lolly Sophie I'm hungry I want a lolly Sophie has also bragged. Yes, Sophie. Sophie writes, Every year for Kreechmish,

I like to choose a crafting item I've never tried before and include it in my gifting. I've done crochet, candles and cross stitch. Last year I made filled chocolates. Wow, which was so rewarding, but bloody annoying to do. Also, what's your favourite, flavoured filled chocky? Pabment. Mine's raspberry.

Peppament for you? Yeah, peppment's very good. Caramels. Caramels great. Yeah. Anything nutty? Not a fan of nutty. Peppermint for me.

I think might be strawberry. Like I love a strawberry fredo. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Love that flavor. Oof. Oof. Or the,

when you have the cabri snack. I like the pink one. Yeah, yeah. When I was a child, I like cabri snack as well. When I was a little boy. When I was working at a company, it's essentially like a tech startup.

It was a very, one of the biggest companies I was. say in Australia. And so there was lots of weird little perks. You could go upstairs and just help yourself to like... Are you going to have little perks? Yeah. Do you think of goose as a little perk? He's a little perk. Actually, he's at the vet. He's said I was Simpson. It's very upsetting. Anyway, you could go and get like drinks and there was always like chocolates and lollies and stuff. And any time in any of my team went, if they saw a mint Fredo in the gigantic bowl of treats you could have they'd grab one for me because they were my favorite and they were rare and one we had a we had a

kk on christmas and the girl who had me for weeks leading up to it hoarded as many of these mint freddos as she could and then just gave me a box of them oh that's a really thoughtful but also what a tight ass no she also gave me like a fun mug but she's like yeah great i've given you something that the company gave's for free here uh here's a handful of gravel i picked up from outside your house Hey, not nice. I put it in your shoes. You like gravel, don't you put in your shoes? I know you said that time you love feeling that crunch of walking on gravel.

So you can have that feeling any time now. Permanently. Crunch time. I think maybe, yeah, maybe you've said that now. I'll say if we go on that variety pack, I'll have the caramelo koala. Yeah, great. Oh, we're sorted. Oh, I love it.

Anyway, this, that wasn't, oh, that's part of the brag. But Sophie finished by saying this year, my homemade gift would, so this was last year, last Christmas. I gave him a heart, et cetera. That's in like two weeks ago. Yeah, two weeks ago. It sounded like it was ages ago. Sophie was made bars of soap. I really enjoyed making them and I can't wait for people to start using them.

Oh, that sounds like your mates are stinky. Yeah. I'm going to guess this will read Nearish Christmas. So I hope you three have a truly wonderful time. And as ever, thank you all for your hard work with this podcast and community. Thank you so much, Sophie. It is leading up to Christmas at time of recording. Sorry to spoil that bullshit riff we did before.

We did not party together on New Year's Eve. As if we're all asleep, probably. Katie Clay's finally, Katie's given herself the title, The Mother of the Sass Queen. My mum? Mummy? And he has a lot to answer for then. Katie Clay's. What a great name, Katie Clay's.

Katie's got a fact, which is, Ernie Dingo is a Yamachi man, Murchison region of W.A., moved to Perth and took up an apprenticeship in signwriting and became a standout in Australian rules and basketball competitions across the metropolitan area before getting into acting. I once was privileged to see him accompanying Paul Kelly on stage in Broome, W.A. Paul singing and Ernie playing the didgerie. Dude, bloody hell, Ernie Dingo. On the recording, I believe on the recording of,

Little Things, Big Things Grows, Didry Do at the end? And it is Ernie Dingo play. Oh, shit. Oh, that's great. Because he's such a good actor, great presenter on travel shows. Imagine he loves a road trip. He's awesome. But I didn't realize he was a,

I didn't realize it was a handy footballer and basketballer. And sign writer. So, yeah. That's very artistic as well. Well, that feels like there's a report in there somewhere. Ernie does it all. Ernie's awesome. So funny.

On Simply the jest, we had a story one time of a girl who, I think it might have been, the topic was like celebrities. No, I don't remember what it was. But she was like two and they were walking along a pier. And she like put her, she leaned over to look in a big bucket that had fish in it. And she fell into the bucket, a two-year-old. Oh, okay. I miss that.

Yeah. So it was like. Hello, that's a funny pratfall. It was not good. No, that's not good. Somebody grabs her by the back. of the shirt and pulls her out. It's Ernie Dingo.

Fuck off. Saying, whose kid is this? That's why I'm... Every time I hear Eri Dingo now, I'm like... It was a great story. She was like, it was Ernie Dingo. That's amazing.

Yeah. Wow. You got to do a Dingo report. Yeah. And include that bit in it. I would love to. Because, you know, some people don't even listen to the... Everyone's favorite section of the show, which I know everyone agrees is weird.

but um that seems baffling why wouldn't you listen so they they really need to hear that story uh well that brings us to everyone's other favorite part of the show where we uh thank a few of our other great supporters jess you normally come up with little games we give them all a title or something based on the the topic of the day um maybe yeah site what sites they'd see or instead of caves nick cave and the cave we can compare a natural thing in a famous celebrity Do we can go with nine of those? What are so? We could just do...

I reckon we could, couldn't we? We could just do the hometown of which celebrity they'd visit on their road trip. And then I'll try and see if I can get nine of the things that I just said. Natural occurrences. If I can kick us off. Yeah, please. I'd love to thank from Address Unknown. You can only assume from deep within the fortress of the moles.

Justin Liles. Justin Liles. visits the hometown of Rowan Atkinson. Oh, Rowan Atkinson, eh? Yep. Rowan Atkinson. Also, he goes to the home of San Quiddal footballer Brad Hill. Okay.

And then goes to a nice hill nearby. So you could have used Brad Hill for another person and said Hill. But I mean, what can I do with Rowan Ackon? I'll tell you, Rowan Ackinson is from concert, a town in county Durham. What about he went to a concert? Yes, there you go. And they obviously occur naturally. Yeah, a natural, a supernatural amphitheatre.

Yeah. Thank you very much, Justin. I'd also have to thank from a similar fortress of the mall scenario. Phil Hyatt. Phil Hyatt has visited the hometown of Hallie Berry. Hallie Berry. Where he ate a rast. Bair.

Oh, naturally occurring. It grew. I thought you were going to say ate a piece of Halley's comet. Crunchy. Kind of broke his teeth, actually. Helly Berry is, of course, from Cleveland, Ohio, God's Country.

God's Country, Ohio, Cleveland Rocks, home of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I think. Very cool. There you go. And finally for me, I'd love to thank from Sheffield in Great Britain nearby leads leads leads I think main Jess this looks like it's got an Irish or Gaelic sort of spelling M a I M a M a E-N yeah I'm not 100% sure go for Maine

Maine Gallagher from Sheffield Maine Gallagher and what you're telling me the hometown Matt Sheffield but where the hometown of which celebrity is she visiting Oh what is Maine visiting? Uh mr. Sheffield actor yes what's a his name. I can't be even think of his. I'll do two Google searches here. Charles Shawnessy. Charles Shawnessy, yes.

From? Who is from London. London Town. And so what are we got there? We got Charles. Oh London Eye. Great. Naturally occurring.

London Eye. London Eye. I of a storm. Yeah, London Eye of a storm. So he's seen a big... Mr. Schiff. It says here he's the right honourable The Lord Shaughnessy

Wow Two does The right honourable the Lord Yeah It's too much Surely it's just the right honourable Lord Chonis Commer Lord Yeah

comma All right All right Jesus What more do you need Comma Can I thank some people as well That would be fantastic I would love to thank

From Auckland New Zealand Where we would love to go One day soon Roy Salazar Oh, that is such a good name. That is such a good name. Roy Salazar.

Roy Salazar visiting the hometown of Usain Bolt. Oh. Yes, and being struck by lightning. Yes. Naturally occurred lightning. Yeah. What is the hometown? Guff.

He's obviously from Jamaica, but he was born in Sherwood Content. There we go. Or Sherwood Content, a small town in Jamaica. Cool. Yeah. Obviously, you take a. photo there, create a bit of content. Yeah.

Yeah. For the gram. And then get struck by lining. Thank you, Roy. This is the most confused version of this would have done. But it's fun. We'd also love to thank from Sydney, New South Wales, Tim Everingham. Tim Everingham.

Sydney, yeah, Sid was the pre-marriage name. That almost works. Everingham. Eversingham. Gee, that sounds like an English shire or something as it is. visiting the hometown of Barry Crocker. Barry Crocker. Which I reckon's Melbourne probably, but I hope it's some great regional.

Let me look it up. Barry Crocker. He is born in Geelong. Geelong. Geelong. Second biggest city in our fair state. 86 years old Barry Crocker. Geelong is the second biggest city.

Well, that makes sense, doesn't it? Stupid question, Jess, idiot. What's the city? What's one of the big things you go see in Geelong? Jolong. Cadinia Park. If you're a Deakin Uni student, you have to go there for your graduation. Oh, fantastic.

Which is fun. There's a beautiful, beautiful, they've done a lot of great work on the dock there. Yep. Some beautiful beaches. There's it, there was an ice skating rink there for a bit. Oh. Back when I was it, uni. This has gone back a while.

A few good breweries there now. Yeah. I mean, it's the second biggest city. the state so it's a you know it's got everything you need beautiful spot beautiful spot not far away from melbourne yeah just yeah perfect close on the way to bell's beach and that's right the surf coast maybe that the you go there to look at a rip yeah yeah go have a look at that rip yeah you're glad you're not in that oh bloody i'd be sucking you out to see yeah geez swim through the flags um so thank you to tim and finally for me

I would love to thank another another New Zealand friend from Wellington. Ah, the windy city. Hillary McKay. It's a good name as well. Hillary McKay. Hillary McKay. Okay, Wellington.

Okay. The hometown, I actually, I've lost, I don't know. I was just thinking of a gumboot. But we've got to go with the hometown of someone. Paddington, Burlington, the hometown of Paddington. Peru. Oh, Peru, that's right. Darkest Peru, I believe.

Yeah, those movies Like you're like, these are kids' movies And you're watching me like, this is the best thing I've ever seen in my life. It's so good. They are fantastic. Great plain movies. How good is Hugh Grant? Oh, fantastic villain.

He's amazing in it. He's so good. I'm like, oh my God, can Hugh Grant act? It was for a long time he just played one character. Yeah. And then it's like, you want to try something else? He's like, yeah, I'd love to. And then he's so good in it.

Let me show you my reign. He's so good. Oh, Hugh. Grant. He's pretty good in the gentleman. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, he is.

Another sort of a weasily rat. Yeah, good accent work in that one. Character. So, okay, Paddington, Peru. What are you? Having a Peru's. In Peru. That's good.

That is good stuff. That is good stuff. You absolutely know about Dave? Yeah, we can't get more specific there. It doesn't have a hometown. It was just in. No, I've tried to look it up, but no. It doesn't look like it.

Peru. Dave, you want to take us home? I was thanking a few here. Yes, I would love to take us home by. saying a big thank you and shout out too from Canton in Georgia the United States Tyler and Mandy Edwards from Canton Georgia when I've got Georgia on my mind

I can't help but think of those sweet peaches is that them and Ray Charles I'm talking about Ray's butt and he is from Albany Georgia Albany Georgia George. And there you can call me Albany.

I forgot what this. I forgot even what we're doing. No, you're going to think of a natural occurring thing. So go see a volcano in Albany, Georgia. Okay. And one of those famous Albany volcanoes. Yeah. I just realized what we're doing.

I thought we were doing puns on the title. Like a cave in cave, Nick Cave. That's what I've been doing. So sorry everyone if I confused. I haven't been sure for a while. I feel like we've, we split the party at some point to three different scenarios here.

I'm not even sure. I don't think I've been doing anything at all. Well, I haven't fun. I'm sure that's a great volcano in Albany. Yeah, for sure. So thanks, Tylene and Mandy. Mandy,

I'd like to also thank from Orange in New South Wales. Megan. Megan. Megan. Megan. Megan. Oh, my orange. orange

Megan obviously What is it Are we saying they're from there Or they're visiting The hometown of which celebrity They're visiting the hometown Of famous redhead

Prince Redmond What's his name? Harry? Prince Harry Prince Harry Who's I imagine born in a London hospital Yes

They're all born in the same one That's boring St Mary's Something in there St Mary's something in there St Mary's and he went to saw and saw that place where Mary appeared and there was the little fountain that had a healing waters in France. Yes. I've been to the town.

I can't think of its name. I have no idea. They sell jugs in the shape of Jesus there. They've really cashed in on it. No, what? Go get the holy water in this Jesus shaped jug. It's exactly, I reckon that's exactly what Jesus would have wanted. Wild.

I'll find that. Is it Ruehain? No. That's Zachary. Lords? Lords. Or lords. It's pronounced different, I think.

Ludes. Lourdes. Beautiful language when said properly. And finally, I'd like to thank from Braintree, which I've never heard about. I love it. And I believe it's in Essex in the greatest of Britain's. Joe and Pippa.

Joe and Pippa. From Brain Tree. Brain Tree. Love that. That's good. Patrick Stewart, where's he? from. Patrick Stewart? Because he's got to be brain. Because I was thinking of Salt and Pepper. Love it. Patrick Stewart. Joe and Pipa.

Patrick Stewart was born in Murfield in the UK. Merfield. He's Scottish, right? No. Is he? Well, this is West Yorkshire. That's where he's born anyway. Apologies. I'm just going off Stewart because everyone knows Stuart is actually a Scottish name. I never really paid attention to it. I thought he just lost the accent. Yeah. Or he's that good.

He never performed. Yeah, you've never heard his real voice. That's true. Isn't that beautiful? And what are we doing in Patrick Stewart's hometown of Murfield? Murfield. Toboggling. Well, Murphy's law says you go tobogginging and everything goes wrong.

You fall in. That's what happens. And who's going to pull you out? Ernie Dink. There you go. You'll get you. All right. We somehow brought that around to some sort of a, what we'll call,

satisfying conclusion. That felt like something, even though it was certainly not something. Thank you, Joe, Pippa, Megan, Tyler, Mandy, Hillary, Tim, Roy, Maine, Phil and Justin. The last thing we like to do is thank a few of our, or welcome in a few of our long-term supporters into the Triptitch Club. If you're on the shout-out level or above for three straight years, we bring you into the Triptage Club. This is a beautiful place. You go to ticket in once, you get a ticket for life.

It's a one-way valve here. You can't leave. Don't try. you normally serving a cocktail? What's the Trump family cocktail this week? It is water with poisonous toxins in it. You could have gone with red currents? No, we are all going to have a psychotic episode together.

I will be the leader. Late theory, can you overdose on red currents? Is that possibly whatever? Yeah, that could be some sort of red currents. Interesting, late theory. All right, yeah, okay, we got Ribina. It's not even the right kind of. current but yeah all right i like you being a cult leader jess i really like it you guys have

said many times i don't have the charisma no you've got you've got the charisma you got you got you got the charisma inside and out what is it coming out of if you've got a do if you're a do if you're a do it's out of do yeah you're do out of do yeah i understood all that well yeah you were spreckin the francois uh davy normally booked a band yes you're never gonna believe this trump stump i can't believe you can't believe you this. Is there a band called Trump?

Stop. I obviously book these bands months and months if not years in advance with this big act we've actually

got Fallout Boy performing their fourth studio album Folly Adieu Oh my God They got an album called Follet Adieu Back to back

Wow Wow I'd never heard that term before Now of a sudden Fallout boy Are calling their albums It? What?

I can't believe it I don't know it was a massive hit album for them because I don't recognize any of the songs. But anyway, still. Well, there's only two members here. Oh, easy day for days.

Amazingly, same surname, different continents. Wow, cool. They must know each other, right? Do you think? If they don't already, let's introduce them. They signed up within a day of each other. Exact same surname. I'm not a super common surname.

Cool. Well, Dave, you ready to bring them in? Yes, absolutely. Here we go. So basically, my job here is as a hype man and I hype up the new guests, but Jess also hypes me up.

Yes. Sure. If you're picturing it, these two people are going to be, I'm lifting up the Velvet Road, welcoming it into the Triptitch Club. Dave's on the stage. He's hyping up.

He's getting everyone who's already inside up to give a very warm welcome. Obviously, that takes a lot out of Dave. So Jess, give them a bit of positive feedback as we go. All right, we're ready for the big two? Here we go. Don't use a surname because you can't. Or do, up to you.

Folly adieu, go on. It's weird that we didn't get to that earlier. Firstly, from Forest Lake in Queensland, Australia. It's James Brennan. Oh, James Brennan, 10 out of 10. Yes, that's good. And from Orleans. You better hope they have a good first name.

Ontario, Canada. It's Tommy Brennan. Oh, Tommy Brennan, 11 out of 10. Cop that, James. James coming. Still a perfect score. Thank you to Tommy and James. Welcome in.

Make yourselves at home and have a great time. Enjoy Folly Aude. Back to back. And a little poison drink. Geez, he didn't come in on a great week. There's other drinks in there. All the other drinks I've ever said are still on the menu. But yeah, okay, now there's some toxins in the water.

Oh my God. You too. Always trying to bloody rain me in. So that brings us to the end of the episode. Anything else we need to tell people, Boppa? That they can find us at Do Go On pod on all social media do go on pod.com is our website and um anybody can suggest a topic as well so if you've spotted something out in the wild you've seen a post about something you know a story

and you think hey do go on might like that um you can there's a link in the show notes it's also on our website you can go suggest a topic um and yes nailed it fantastically said dismount. Absolutely perfect there, Jess. And all we've got left to say really is do all that stuff. But until next week, we'll say thank you so much. And goodbye. Bye.

Basically what we're saying is happy new year, everyone. Happy new year. 2022, huh? How about it? How bad? Let's do it. What do you say we do a pod every week this year? Yeah.

Ambitious. Changed it up. Ambitious. But okay. I think that would be fantastic. For people living and listening to this in the future, I mean, it would be hard to listen, if not living, you'd be going like, why are they talking about it? What's this new year?

We don't have that here in the future. Well, back in the past, we used to celebrate the end of the year with a party not called New Year. Now that you're the end of the world's happened, you don't do that anymore. Yeah. But we used to. So go watch a video. Yeah, surely. If you have those still.

Surely there's a video of that. Yeah, go watch a video. Just Google New Year's Eve. And actually just Google fireworks. Oh my God. Honestly. Yeah, it'll blow your mind. So fun.

And they go like bang, bang, bang, bang. So good. Really cool stuff. So fun. Really cool stuff. I'm like, I bet you there'll be at least 10 fireworks tonight. And if there's more, I'll be surprised. But imagine.

And they were like, I don't know, like 100. There was so many. I lost count, actually. Because they were just like, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And they're all going. on at the same time as well so it's like I can't was that three or was that one that like does a big bang and then little bangs does that count as two I was wondering that too technically speaking but either way I think it cleared 10 easily yeah and did you notice that there were lots of different

colours because I said you know I love light and that's one of the big things in fireworks you got the sound but I love the light part it's probably my favourite bit and I love how they sort of go out sparkly white yes but imagine if they could do them in different colours and that night there was red There was green Yeah The list goes on Yeah

Wow It was absolutely wild I don't think that was a blue I don't think No probably not a blue But I think there was a hot pink Oh yeah Yeah yeah

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