Two In The Think Tank - 324 - The Tromp Family Mystery

Episode Date: January 5, 2022

On the 30th of August 2016 Police arrived at the Tromp family home on a farm outside of Melbourne. This kicked off an investigation into a bizarre mystery involving a family road trip that zigzagged up the east coast of Australia, tune in for the story!Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: dogoonpod.com or patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Stream our 300th episode with extra quiz (and 16 other episodes with bonus content): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-37293494https://www.smh.com.au/national/bizarre-tale-of-tromp-family-road-trip-cloaked-in-mystery-20160901-gr6ujf.htmlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4284496/Tromp-family-normal-bizarre-trip.htmlhttps://www.mamamia.com.au/tromp-family/https://www.goulburnpost.com.au/story/4138637/man-finds-elder-missing-tromp-sister-in-back-of-ute/?cs=180 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I was feeling, because we've known each other so long now, it felt weird to ask. So I really appreciate you bringing that up. Well, you saying that has possibly saved me from anyone pointing out that I said Jest Perkins. It's pronounced your name. Hey, we're still recovering from New Year's Eve. What a big night. What a big night we had. Oh, it went bloody wild, mate.

Let me tell you. The thing is, I set my expectations for it so high and it exceeded them. Yeah. Famously, that's the night to do it. If you ever want to set expectations high and have them met, it is New Year's Eve. 100%. Anything is possible. It is always fun. You is New Year's Eve. 100%. Anything is possible. It is always fun.

You can get an Uber easily. Because I was saying, I was saying you were there on the way into town for New Year's Eve, I was saying. Only place to be, town. Oh, you've got to go ahead into town. Fireworks, you get the kids' session and the adults' session.

Yeah, you've got to get into town. We're like, will Dave make it past the kids' session? He did, which is great. It was a great night i obviously i fell asleep in the back of the car you carried me into bed yeah that's so um well what do we do here again well jess would be the best one to explain that i think that's right dave did uh point that question at you and you've beautifully deflected that over here uh what we do is each week, one of us goes off, we research a topic. It could be anything from serial killers to Dolly Parton to mysteries to World War I. We've done it all.

The big four. And they do some research, bring it back to the other two, tell them about it. And you, because you're listening in, while the other two just sort of rudely interrupt and make silly little jokes yeah really the the listener you listener you're the best one you're just listening quietly yeah apart from the times you yell at your ipod but we can't hear that so it's it doesn't really affect us affect the flow of the episode and we always start with a question that's right i'm doing the report this, and my question is pretty broad here. What is the great Australian summertime adventure?

Probably great everywhere summertime adventure, but what are you doing? You've got no plans for a couple of days. What are you going to do? You're at the beach. Yeah, surfing. You obviously come across some sort of smugglers, and then it's up to you and your brother to solve the case. Okay, so you're thinking like a Poirot-style investigation.

Party boys. Jess, what do you, a normal person, do at summertime? Most summers, I go on a road trip. Yes, Bob. Yes. That's it. It's road trip. We're going on a road trip.

Fun. Oh, I prefer to solve crimes. This one's not that fun, but... You solve crimes? Yeah, I like solving crimes. Summer holidays, Christmas, that little time between Christmas and New Year's, you're like, oh, I can solve like three crimes this week.

Well, this is the perfect episode for you two. Jess, you're going to enjoy the road trip. Dave, you can try and solve this whatever it is. Okay. Mysterious event, I suppose. This one was suggested by Sean Harris from Cartersville, Georgia. Niall from Melbourne, here in Victoria That's right where we are

Hannah from Washington DC, up on Capitol Hill And Hussein Mehdi from Antwerp in Belgium Awesome So this one obviously, this story has travelled around the world a little bit That's a whole three different countries that have suggested this Whoa Yeah Wow, three little bit that's a whole three different countries that have suggested this whoa yeah wow three three

including belgium obviously the home of poirot exactly all right let us begin oh i mean do you want to know what the story is yeah it's uh i think it's going to be called the trump family mystery trump trump do you remember the trumps yes Yes. Vaguely. I don't remember. I don't know heaps. I was the same. I'm like, I recall it very, very vaguely. Yeah, like seeing a newspaper article about it or something. But I didn't know the story at all.

Yeah, right. So, this isn't contemporary mystery. It is contemporary. When did you start working in TV, in news comedy? About five years back. Oh, well, you were potentially there TV, in news comedy? About five years back. Oh, well, you were potentially there at this point. Really? Because this happened about five years back.

Wow. Let us begin. On the 30th of August, 2016, police arrived at the Trump family home in Sylvan in the Yarra Ranges, just outside of Melbourne. Sort of just beyond the Dandenongs. Yeah. I've never heard of Sylvan. the Yarra Ranges just outside of Melbourne. Sort of just beyond the Dandenongs. Yeah. I'd never heard of Sylvan. Yeah, I think I've heard of it. Sort of.

That's convincing, isn't it? Out towards, you know, that little wine region out there, the Yarra Ranges. Yeah. If you'd asked me where's Sylvan, I wouldn't have a clue. I don't think I'd ever heard of it. Yeah, right. But it's, you know, it would be like a half hour or so drive from here probably.

Yeah, not too bad. The Trump family lived on their Red Current farm where they also ran an earth moving business. The farm's website describes it as a, quote, lovely, tranquil property. The Trumps all worked for their family business and they did that seven days a week. did that seven days a week jacoba known as kobe uh was 53 at the time her husband mark 51 and their adult children rihanna 29 mitchell 25 and ella 22 police arrived at the farm as kobe and mark had been reported missing when they arrived they found a strange scene. Ella's silver Peugeot. Did I say that weird? Peugeot. Peugeot.

Oh, la la. Peugeot? I mean, it wasn't that bad. It wasn't that far off. I'm just a little bit wrong. If you'd kept going, nobody would have noticed. Damn it.

Was it parked in their driver next to their Volkswagen? Volkswagen. And their Saab. It's the only way you can say it It's tragic that Saab has gone out of business Saab? No Saabs anymore

No Saabs anymore It's tragic Sweden's national car The Saab Or is that Swedish? It was a Swedish car, yeah Rest in peace What about their Mazda?

They've got I mean, they've still got the Volvo, right? That beautiful box. World's safest car at some point. Wow. How about Volvo drivers? Am I right? Safe.

Remember when they tried to take that back with an ad campaign? Oh, I reckon. You wish you were a bloody Volvo driver. Beautiful work. Anyway, so the police arrived and Ella's silver Peugeot station wagon was gone. But the other cars remained, including their keys in the ignitions. Oh. All cars had keys in the ignitions.

I think there was like three other automobiles maybe. Yeah. That's odd. Is that a standard thing for this family? That's how tranquil this farm is. They go. That's pretty tranky. Leave the keys in.

In the ignition. Yeah, you don is they go that's pretty in the ignition yeah you don't lose them when they're in the ignition it's true you just go to your car where are my keys ready to go some people have like a key hook inside their house cars have an inbuilt key it's called the ignition i've got a key pineapple really yeah it's a little pineapple shaped dish that's where I put my keys Okay I was hoping Put it in the pineapple I say I was hoping you like Hull it out of pineapple

And hid it in the fridge No robbers looking at a pineapple My keys are always Nice and chilled And sticky Sticky and sweet I gotta lick them clean It was a little treat for me

Here you go I gotta leave the house again Well It's a little treat on the way out The house was unlocked And inside The police found The family's passports

Credit cards And mobile phones All out on a table All out on a Because I was just thinking The cops have dug deep If they've found All their passports

Because they're usually Like stored somewhere safe But they've just Left them out Yeah This is a very trusting family That is odd You know what I may have That may have been an assumption i may be that's what i felt that's how

it read where would you look for a passport like if you're the cops passport pineapple watermelon yeah the hollowed out watermelon keep Keeps them fresh and sticky. And a bedside table, maybe. Yeah. It means every time you leave to go overseas, like, oh, we're going to go overseas, but you get a sticky little treat. You hand it over to customs.

They're like, why is this so sticky? My friend is a cop and one time went to a scene and they couldn't find this person's phone. He doesn't have a mobile phone or anything, so they didn't know how to contact next of kin or anything like that. And he was an old man and she's like, they looked for, literally like five different police officers looked for a couple of hours. Like there's no phone here. And then she's like, he's old.

So is my dad. Where does dad put his phone? Top of the microwave. Goes to the microwave, there's the phone. Yeah. She was like, there were five offices in there and nobody found it. She got in the mind of the criminal. So that's why I'm thinking like, okay, where's my passport?

That's where I would look for them. Right. Filing cabinet. Filing cabinet. Aha. So as well as the passports, credit cards, mobile phones, they also found business documents and financial statements stacked in neat piles all out.

These were certainly on the table. So ready to do their tax. Yeah. That's what it seemed like. It was August. I guess that time's out okay. Yeah. It just seems like, yeah, this family just leave everything out.

Do they own a cupboard? Very messy. Yeah. It was a nice big farm homestead, but not very good storage. It's like a small mansion, but, you know, cupboard space. Enough for linen. But what do you do with the bits and bobs? Yeah.

What do you do with the Christmas tree? You know, that takes up a bit of storage space. Not everybody's got a shed. Yeah. Or paddocks. Can you imagine their shed? Oh, nightmare. A real nightmare.

Wouldn't even have the tools in a toolbox. They'd just be loose everywhere. They certainly wouldn't have one of those boards with the outlines drawn. So, yeah. So, very mysterious scene The police found And this is So just to confirm It's Mark and

Kobe They're the parents Yes That's right Wow Mark and Kobe The parents And the children

Rihanna Mitchell and Ella REM If that helps you That does Absolutely does Everybody hurts To remember it

So what happened? Yeah Where are they? Let's go back a few days. So it was Ella's Peugeot that's gone? Ella's Peugeot. So the youngest. Yeah, Peugeot.

Her Peugeot. I'm so sorry. I'm not a car person. Oh, a Peugeot. They used to say, let's Peugeot to the shops. That's good. We'll take the Jeep. So we're not, sorry, not even going back a couple of days.

We're going back to the previous day, Monday, August 29th. This is when the Trumps leave their farm in Ellis Silver Peugeot and they head north. They leave their credit cards, IDs and mobile phones at home. Anything that's sort of traceable. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Something's happened.

Around 30 kilometers into the journey at Warburton, the family realized that Mitchell... Have I said that wrong? Warburton. I'm only laughing because we were talking about how American people say Australian stuff differently to us and we were talking about how American people say Australian stuff differently to us. And we were going, ha, ha, ha. But also, I brought that up because I noticed it on another thing when people notice it when we say other countries' most wrong. But I think that helps prove I also say our things wrong too.

And also, like, it doesn't matter, does it? Well, I mean, you say that, but you both looked and could not have laughed harder. I thought you were doing that on purpose because of the Peugeot thing. So I was like, oh, that's good. Well, that's what I was doing. Now, I mean, we knew what you meant. Dave scoffed. Dave was scoffing over there.

He was halfway through writing a tweet. Do you mean a Warburton? I was yelling at my iPod, which in this instance was my microphone. No, I just thought it was funny in the context of... You two are from that area, I guess, are you? Warburton. Is that out east somewhere or something? I have no idea where Warburton is, actually.

You just know how it's bloody pronounced, well done. Well, it's about 30 Ks from Sylvan. Okay, right. Am I saying Sylvan right? I don't know. Sylvane. Sylvane. I'd also never heard of Tro-Sylvan.

So, around 30 Ks into the journey at Warburton, Trois-Sylvan. So around 30 Ks into the journey at Warburton, the family realized that Mitchell has brought his phone with him. Mitchell. What? What? You bloody tweeting, playing your little Tetris, are you?

Unbelievable. Hey, guys, leave everything that can be tracked. And Mitchell's like, absolutely not. I'm bringing my GPS. 2016. What were the big phone games back then? Big phone. Angry Birds. Angry Birds. It was probably. It big phone games back then Big phone Angry Birds Angry Birds

It was probably Probably wasn't Angry Birds But Angry Birds is timeless You know Yeah Fruit Ninja Holding out a pineapple Yes

Flink flink So The family See that he's got his phone And they make him Throw it out the window At least they didn't Throw him out the window

That's true He's pretty big though They make him Throw it out the window. Oh, at least they didn't throw him out the window. That's true. He's pretty big though. They make him throw it out the window. Okay. They drive through the day and into the night before arriving in Bathurst in New South Wales, around 760 kilometres northeast of their home. It's a big day's drive.

It's a big day's drive. Straight to Mount Panorama. Exactly. Just doing a couple of laps. That's right. Yeah, Mount Panorama. Exactly. Well, you know. Just doing a couple of laps. That's right. It's, yeah, August, a bit early. They're getting there early. Time to bury their slabs.

Some people do bury their beers in the ground. Because they're only allowed to bring, so Bathurst is the home of Australia's big race day. Car racing. Car racing. The touring cars, the Australian V8. The super cars. And there's a rule there at bathurst that you're allowed one slab of beer per person per day they're very strict on that

and for some people that's not enough so for maybe people that don't know the slab that's 24 beers yes per day four six packs 375 you know standard stubby size beers or cans and then for some people that's not enough

so they have to go in and bury more how many days is it it's like a three day weekend I think so I'm thinking I'm imagining

the boot of my car and I'm like how many could I fit in not that much probably so i'd be burying yeah yeah a slab would last me i'd have leftovers at the end of three days oh my that is you think about it one beer every hour for 72 straight hours yeah no thank you i think i'm like that sometimes in the past to go to music where you could bring your own beer and I'd always be like, three nights? Well, I'll need two slabs and then a few other things. Two slabs and then a bottle of vodka and some mixes?

And you're like, no. And then I'll go, well, obviously I'll go to the bar when I'm there and have a few of their cocktails. And you're like, how did I think I was think I was gonna Fit that much liquid inside of you And then you just have to take it home And just put it somewhere For the next time you need drinks Yes

That's great A slab Per person Per day I'm pretty sure that's right I love it That's so good So anyway

They've made it to Bathurst They've made it to Bathurst So It's now You can't trackurst. They've made it to Bathurst. So it's now... Can't track a slab, they've got slabs on them. That's true. Are they tracking devices in slabs? They might be. Mitchell, throw it out the window.

So, and I'm assuming, so it's not clear, there's not heaps of information about this story, even though it is quite a well-known one. It's one of those ones where it's written about in a lot of different sources, but it's all with pretty much very quite similar details. But I'm assuming they've slept in the car, five of them in this Subaru. And they're adults. It's not like the kids are little kids who could maybe curl up in the back seat.

They're fully grown adults. No, thank thank you not the way my dad snores around 7 a.m the following day tuesday august 30th at kelso a suburb of bathurst mitchell splits from his family after deciding to head home via sydney on the train he's had enough of whatever's going on he's heading home so they've driven through the night 760 k's away and he's gone i'm gonna take multiple trains and head back he's having phone withdrawals yeah i've got to go back i gotta go get my phone that phone means so much to me i'm feeling a bit like an angry bird right now gotta get out of this car uh so now just the four of them the tromps head southeast to the genolan caves near the blue mountains you familiar with the genolan caves no i hadn't heard

of them but i looked up the website looks magnificent cool uh according to the state new south wales uh tourism website genolan caves is one of the great natural spectacles in australia the most ancient open caves in the world with arguably the most beautiful limestone formations. Tucked in a remote valley in the southern Blue Mountains National Park, this labyrinth of stalactite-lined chasms carved by pure underground rivers is a must-do extension for any visit to the Blue Mountains.

So I don't know if all of a sudden they've gone, well, while we're in the area. This is a must see. I might have been there. You might have been to... The Genolan. Arguably the most beautiful limestone formations in the world. Yeah, maybe.

The most ancient open caves. You'd remember that, mate. Well, we went to some caves, but I was quite little. It's like four or five. There's pictures. That was probably then. How many caves have we got here, you know? It's probably then.

Good question. Mum, Dad, let me know. Give some context first, because I won't remember what you're talking about. If you're just like, yeah, we've been there. Are you losing your mind, Mum? Do we have to look into homes? I love the idea that this family went to the information kiosk

and said, what's around here? We're fleeing mysteriously. What should we see while we're here? What do you see when you're fleeing? We've got time to kill. What do you see when you flee? That's nice. I'd buy that book. That is good, yeah. What you see when you're fleeing? We've got time to kill. What do you see when you flee? That's nice. I'd buy that book.

That is good, yeah. What you see when you flee. What you see when you flee. That's beautiful. I'd be like, ooh, this is going to be a tale of, you know. The Chomp's Guide to Tourism, New South Wales. Okay, yes. Why the family went there is unknown,

apart from obviously, you know the obviously beautiful ambiance but what is known the daughters rihanna and ella at this point decide to split off from their parents oh they split the party twice they've already split split the party twice and we know from an early episode birkenwheels you never split the party do not split the party especially if you're deep inside a cave that's ridiculous the tromps push Burke and Wills for the most party splitting yeah that we've ever come across yeah well if mom and dad split as well that would be quite impressive well so they've just left them their parents and said we're going back as well yeah again it's unknown why but they've they've split up um interesting they do this by stealing a car

and driving to goulburn which is about 150 kilometers south of the caves uh perhaps they went to goulburn to see rambo uh the big concrete merlino ram one of australia's famous big things yeah seems like they're maybe they're just on a bit of a tourist circuit at this point. According to the Big Merino's website, the Big Merino, built in 1985, is a monument to Goulburn and the surrounding district's fine wool industry. Standing 15.2 metres high, 18 metres long, and weighing 97 tonnes at the time of construction,

he is an impressive lifelikeike model of rambo a stud ram from a local property what a stud uh we spoke about rambo in length on a bonus episode about australia's big things i think that was about did that about a year ago if you want to check that out as well as 130 other Fantastic Bonus episodes You can sign up To dogoanpod.com Or patreon.com Slash dogoanpod

And hear all about it Other Classics on that episode Plotty Do you remember Plotty? Oh yeah I love Plotty Plotty was so good The Diplodocus

Yes And What else was there? The giant potato Giant potato Yeah Which some people thought Look looked like a big shit. It's the big shit.

That was a really fun episode. Yeah, it's a good one. There are, we found dozens of them around Australia. So many. And I think, yeah, I think, who was it? I think Siraj might have even put together a bingo game and he then went around and took photos with all these big things and won his own bingo game.

Siraj, one of our great listeners and supporters. Love it. Anyhow, so they went to Goulburn. So they've stolen a car too. Would you know how to steal a car? Nah. Well, I mean, if the keys are left in the ignition, it's very easy. That's their assumption.

Well, we could have any of these. They're like, what about that Ferrari? Why not? Yeah, well, they just assume the keys are in the ignition. That's very easy. That's their assumption. Well, we could have any of these. They're like, what about that Ferrari? Why not? Yeah, well, I just assume the keys are in the ignition. It's weird that I'm even saying it because that's just how keys are, in ignitions. Maybe, and then they get lucky. It's the one car with the keys.

And they're like, well, I guess everyone does it. My car doesn't have an ignition anymore. I ripped it out. Pop that, thieves. Yeah, so that makes me feel safe actually great i won't leave the keys in the ignition for someone to steal it you've got a push button ignition yeah yeah oh very fancy it feels fancy that is very fancy thank you so much i'm doing very well it's an it's an old car that i as far as i knew it was only sports cars and Ferrari-type cars that did that.

Yeah. Well, yeah, I've got a sports Ferrari. Do you have a sports Ferrari? I've got a sports Ferrari. Bloody hell. One simply must have a sports Ferrari. Real upgrade from your old regular Ferrari. Yeah.

It was embarrassing driving it around, actually. I just thought, Jess, you're 30. You know, stop driving the car you had since you were 22. You're 30. You know, it's stop driving the car you had since you were 22. I love the idea of, you know, like a Ford or a Holden or a Toyota, they'll have their standard Camry. And then there'll be like a Camry Sports Edition,

which will have like a spoiler on it and maybe like a lift kit or something. Probably not a lift kit, but it'll have like side skirts and a stripe. I love the idea of Ferrari. Oh, yeah. What did you get? A Ferrari? Sports edition. It's got a stripe on it. Put a spoiler on it.

Whoa. Oh, you really flashed up that Ferrari. The steering wheel's a sports steering wheel. Yeah. It's got leather seats. It's got a 13th cylinder. Bucket seats. Yeah.

It's pretty cool. It's honestly very uncomfortable and impractical and cost me way more. We can wait for clean water solutions. Or we can engineer access to clean water. We can acknowledge indigenous cultures. Or we can learn from indigenous voices. We can demand more from the earth. Or we can learn from Indigenous voices. We can demand more from the earth. Or we can demand more from ourselves.

At York University, we work together to create positive change for a better tomorrow. Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. Wait, what were we talking about? They stole a car. They went to Goulburn. They stole a car. They're in Goulburn. Goulburn. They stole the car. They're in Goulburn. Goulburn.

Home of Rambo. You're in Goulburn. You're the sisters. You've just split from your parents. What do you do? Go to the Rambo. You split from each other. Of course.

No. So Ella decides to continue driving the stolen car back home to Sylvan while Rihanna stowed away in the back of a random man's ute while it was parked at a service station she just jumped in a guy's ute okay so that happens in movies some weird stuff is going on in this family do you as a ute you used to have a ute matt did you check the back of the ute never check the tray you gotta check the tray i'm now realizing yeah check the tray especially if you're stopping at a bloody road you know one of those big road houses on major freeways major highways that like they're massive oh you must check the tray you simply must check the tray i'm checking the back

seats of my hatchback to make sure no one's gonna pop up yeah well i mean that if someone pops up from the tray you're like all right yeah you're outside the car. But I feel like this was like a twin cab. I don't know that for sure. I'm pretty sure this was a twin cab and she got in the back of the- No. Yeah, so it was inside the car. She's not in the tray. I think so.

Fuck, that's terrifying. But if you'd like, we can get this story from the horse's mouth. Keith himself, the man driving the ute. Keith. He was driven by a horse. You hear Keith, you think horse? He said horse's mouth. Okay, sorry.

Dave is very literal. It's a great association. I once knew a horse named Keith, only Keith I've ever known. This is my cousin Keith. The horse. Who at the time I've ever known. This is my cousin Keith. The horse. Who at the time was 14, 15. I know for you it's Greg's and Gary's, but my favourite comedy name is probably Keith.

Keith is fantastic. Keith is in the same family as Greg and Gary. Keith. Keith. Keith is amazing. Oh, yeah, Keithy. Do you know what I was thinking last night? I've been watching the Harry Potter movies.

Okay. He Who Shall Not Be Named on screen. And I'm like, that man's name is Ralph. Ralph! Ralph Fiennes has, like, the fanciest fucking name. Like, his middle names are ridiculous. He sounds so hoity-toity. But his name is Ralph.

Doesn't he pronounce it Rafe or something as well? Which something yeah which is it's like mate we know who you are it's ralph is it ralph he says or something like that yeah i think you're right because uh as we were watching my partner's like is that ralph finds i was like that's ralph finds ralph ralph anyway Ralph Ralph Anyway Which is a word for spewing That's up there I think with Keef Ralph is good Ralph Did you ever watch King Ralph? Yes

Of course When There was The set up for the film Is the whole English monarchy The whole extended family Meeting for a family reunion

They It's raining They have a big family portrait and it's one of those big old school cameras and the leads are going through the water. They're standing in the water and the photo electrocutes and kills the whole extended family. So the next person they can find next in line for the throne

is an American man played by John Goodman called Ralph. And then the film's about King Ralph tearing it up at Buckingham Palace. Probably with a beautiful ending, I imagine. Yeah, I'm sure. Jeezy was a fish out of water, though. With a heart of gold. Matt's review. I think I would love to.

You should have your own Like review show Jeez He was a fish out of water That's That's great That's very funny Sorry

She's stowed away In Keith's car She's stowed away In Keith's car Which is So well And now we're gonna hear from The horse

Keith Himself Yeah we assume I mean I had been assuming As a man But there is nothing Ex I mean, I had been assuming it was a man, but there is nothing explicitly here to say that it is a man. If a horse was to drive... A human man, that is.

If a horse was to drive a car, it would be a twin cab. Yeah, surely. Surely. I think it would be a convertible. Yeah. A bit more clearance. So, David Cole reported on what happened next in the Goulburn post writing

goulburn resident keith whittaker said the drama began when he pulled into a caltech service station in goulburn in his white ford f-250 dual cab ute okay on tuesday around 11 a.m that's probably where i got the dual cab bit from yeah i'm like in my head i'm picturing a dual cab for some reason i think it's a dual cab uh this is uh directly from the horse's mouth now i filled up with petrol and drove off on my way to canberra for a doctor's appointment keith did you pay yeah if you're telling us every bit keith yeah and then i paid i used a card. Yeah. I also bought a... A little Milky Way. A golden rough and a Milky Way.

Bought a scratchy, did not win. And a choccy milk for my drive. I got to Lake George when I felt a kick to the back of my seat. Imagine that. You're on the highway. No. You're doing 110. You feel a kick in the back of your seat.

No. You're doing 110. You feel a kick in the back of your seat. No. I turned around and saw two legs stretched across the back between my seat and the floor. She was lying on the floor, Mr. Whittaker said. I got an extreme shock. I pulled over in a rest area.

You had to wait for a rest area? I had to wait 18 kilometres. Please don't kill me. Please don't kill me. Yeah, wouldn't that... The assumption would be someone's in the back of my car. They're probably not here to give me an extra chocolate rough or Milky Way. That would scare the shit out of me.

Well, he was in extreme shock. Yes. About 20 minutes later, the young woman sat up and was staring straight ahead. Sorry. 20. What happened? So this is after he's pulled over. What happened for 20 minutes?

She just stays still in the car. I think that is what happened. Oh, my God. But that gives cops enough time to get to you. Interesting you say that. Not quite, actually. Was he just sitting there going, I don't know what to do. I'll wait for her to make the next first move.

That's what it sounds like, right? Oh, my sitting there going, I don't know what to do. I'll wait for her to make the next first move. That's what it sounds like, right? Oh, my God. Keith, you wild dog. So, he waits 20 minutes. Then she sits up, staring straight ahead. I asked her who she was and if she was all right. She did not know her name and had no idea where she was.

I asked her if she needed any water or anything or was in any way injured, and she said no. Then I called the police. Oh, my God, Keith. 20 minutes has gone by. Although, like, is it a crime to hide in someone's car? It should be. It's questionable.

I feel like it's right on that grey. Is it a crime to give someone a spook? You're breaking into their car. Surely you can't do that. Surely you can't do that. Yeah. And it's a trespass on your car. It's a sus thing to do to hide in someone's car.

You know? Oh. I would have called the cops much sooner, to be honest. Probably before you're pulling over. Well, my sports Ferrari has Bluetooth. So while I'm driving still, I reckon. And a panic button. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I would have just, I would have gone, hey, Siri, call police. Hey, Siri, panic. I actually just set her off. No, no, no, all good. Hey, Siri. Just to confirm, you're panicking? Siri, set off the back ejector seat. Yeah.

Boing, boing, boing, boing. I can't believe you just sat there for 20 minutes. Amazing. Like there was a snake in the back and if he moved, it might bite him. Yeah. So, he waits for 20 minutes. Then she sits up. He talks to her and he goes, oh, this is, now this is a bit weird.

I'm going to call the police. Sounds like he's been very calm and kind. Wow. More like, is everything okay? Why are you here? Is something bad happening to you? Do you need water? Are you all right?

Yeah, you're right. You're not a threat to me. Something's obviously happened to you. Yeah. Yeah, he seems like he's got good instincts as well because, I mean, yeah, potentially it was clear that she was in shock. Did he call the doctors and let them know he wasn't making the appointment? Oh, yeah, good point

He'd be running really late But you know what waiting times are like Yeah, true But he's three hours late and he's still on time And there's bloody doctors He walks in and they're like, Keith? He's like, perp, nailed it, yes So he calls the police and then he says

Until the police arrived, she mostly sat and stared straight ahead As if she was catatonic. They arrived about an hour later and took her back to Goulburn Police Station. Hey, I found a woman in my car. She doesn't know who she is and where she's from. Yeah, no worries. We'll get to that at some point. I'm sitting on the side of the road.

Yeah, we'll get there. I reckon you're chucking the lights on and getting there. Yeah, that one seems weird. I don't know police business, to be honest. But it's not like... It feels like an hour. It's not life-threatening. So, it's not...

How do you know? I know. I know. Well, who knows what they're up to? Yeah. Could have been lunch break time or whatever. Could have been a murder that day. There could have been multiple, multi-murders.

Who knows? We just don't know. Could have been a murder and somebody jaywalking. There's no way to find out. Goulburn. Goulburn might be the Mount Thomas of New South Wales. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Mount Thomas being the fictional town where Blue Heel is...

Well, no, it's real in our hearts. Yes, thank you. Fictional in the real world. And it's like a town of 50 people where there was a murder or big crime every Tuesday night or whenever the show aired. Crazy. I wouldn't live there. I'd be locking my crime every Tuesday night. Whenever the show aired. Crazy. I wouldn't live there. I'd be locking my door on Tuesday night.

Keith described Rihanna as a well-dressed young woman and says she offered to give me $50 for my trouble, but I said no thanks. I was just glad to help her. Mr. Whitaker said he had come forward to remind people to check unattended vehicles on returning to them. Yeah. Which is, I mean, I've never done that.

But you reckon you will every time now? I will at least the next couple of days. I look in the back seat as I get in the car. Wow, I should be doing that. I'll do it. I just have a little look. Everything's normal. Oh, the dog's still there.

I've been shopping for hours. And what do you do if you find someone there? It hasn't happened, thankfully. But I guess run. I'd usually wait 20 minutes. Yeah, then I'd run. Then I'd say, are you okay? To see if the situation just resolves itself.

Yeah, that makes sense. Whoa. He sounds really nice that makes sense. Whoa. He sounds really nice. Does sound nice. Good on you, Keith. Yeah, good on you, Keith. Sort of like, you know, ages ago we were talking about how you, was it you always check your shoes if they're left outside for spiders?

Yeah. And I'm like, I've never done that. And then I'm like, I'll start doing that. You only need to find a spider once to start doing that. I feel like you'll squish them. So I guess maybe that's you being kind to the spider. No, I'm not kind to the spider. I don't want a spider anywhere near me.

Get away. Die. You're not one for the cup and paper trick? My partner isn't. That's what he does. And I'm like, kill it. Kill it. How far away?

It's got a scent for us. You better drive it across town before. He throws it out the front door. And I'm like, it's just going to come straight back in. We have a nice place. It's nice in here. Why wouldn't he want to come back in? He enjoys the decor.

In the aftermath of all this, actually just before this, while the sisters were still together, they reported their parents as missing to the police. Oh, interesting. So they report them as missing and that's why the police go to search the Sylvan property because they're daughters. They'd split off from their parents. They're obviously worried about them or whatever

and they reported them missing. So the police go to the sylvan property they're they're finding all the strange things keys in the ignition and who's home when the cops get there every all the kids are back home by that no one's home oh no it's only the day it's only the next day they haven't had a chance to get home yet it's only it's the next day uh ella arrives home in the stolen vehicle later in the day and the cops are still there apparently. She's like, hey.

Hey. Hey, this isn't stolen. Yeah, this car. I've always owned this car. This is a silver. Yeah, this is a silver Peugeot. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's different badges and color.

So it's not a wagon. I customized it. It's been customized. Okay. It's not illegal. What are you doing in my house? It's got a push button ignition. Gosh. It's something I did for it. It's been customized. Okay. It's not illegal. What are you doing in my house? It's got a push button ignition. Gosh.

It's something I did for it. Wow. Imagine doing that for a house. You just have a button instead of a keyhole. That's good. To open that. Yeah. The whole thing opens.

Yeah, the whole house opens up. Fuck yeah, that's great. Every door. Every door opens. Even the cupboards. Yeah. Things fall out. That is a great idea. I need to think this through further but it's sand i can't have thought of anything yeah any sort of downside yet uh so uh ella and rihanna uh both charged with stealing the car

okay because they because they stole the car look that's fair which was pretty clear once this story sort of comes out, if you're that person whose car was stolen, would you be a bit like, like at least your car was stolen in a kind of cool story, you know? It wasn't just taken for a bit of a spin by 14-year-olds and then set on fire. Yeah.

And you get it back pretty soon. It's done a few extra Ks though. Yeah. That gets you closer to your next service. Bloody hell. Throw in a service and maybe we can come to an arrangement here. A bit of petrol money wouldn't kill you. Bring it back with a full tank, would you?

Yeah, a full tank and maybe a boot full of red currents. Hey? Hey? Maybe a slab or two. One per person. One for me, one for my friend Barry. So she talks to the cops as well. She cooperates with them.

All right, let's go to the next day. Wednesday, August 31. The following morning, Mitchell arrives home, having caught a series of trains from Bathurst via Sydney. So he left way sooner than his sister, but she made it back a lot faster. How many trains has this guy caught? And he's got no like no cards or anything

on him so how's he getting on the train cash so they they took cash with them i think they because they it seemed like they were planning to just leave and not come back wow so they just had cash um that's why uh rihanna was offering 50 bucks yeah right imagine picturing a big wad of cash she's got a massive wad of cash she's only offering you 50 you're like uh thanks don't you pity me the disrespect so yeah so now mitchell and ella are back there they cooperate with police ella lets them know that the last she saw of her parents was at the genolan caves that had already been um reported to the new south wales police but they're communicating as well victoria yeah lets them know that the last she saw of her parents was at the genolan caves that had already been

um reported to the new south wales police but they're communicating as well victoria yeah and new south wales police so the new south wales police have gone to the caves and searched the surrounding areas but there is no trace of kobe or mark uh there's no trace of them because they had already left the area heading south again, crossing back over the Victorian border and arriving in Wangaratta around 590 kilometres southwest of the Genolan Caves. Whoa.

Another big drive. Yeah. And they're really zigzagging now. Yeah, it's interesting. Basically dropped the kids off up north and they've come back down. I'm thinking keep going north. The weather gets nicer. Yeah.

Beautiful beaches. Get into Queensland. Gorgeous. Sure. Why are you coming back into Victoria? You got a problem with Wangaratta? Not at all. I have a problem with Victoria.

Right. Well, that's where we're going. Especially in August. It's cold. What are you doing? Bloody lockdown state, am I right? Head north Well yeah I mean

You're in Wangaratta Not too far from the ski fields there Yeah it can be nice You know there's some Beautiful tourist spots Around the place I'm just saying How I would ride

We know the Trumps Love a tourist destination They love it Yeah you're right But they could be heading For Hollywood on the Gold Coast Oh that's true The ultimate

Tourist destination You get a three pass super park Exactly Three park Three pass super a three-pass super park. Exactly. Three-pass? Three-pass super park. Yes. Three-pass super park. Jeez, whenever I heard that as a kid, my ears pricked up.

Three-pass super park. You're like, that is a good deal. Is that possible? I don't know much, but I know that's a good deal. And then can we add a two-pass super park from Dream World and Wet Dream World? Wet Dream World. Is that what it's called? Wet Dream World? Mm Dreamworld and Wet Dreamworld. Wet Dreamworld. Is that what it's called? Wet Dreamworld?

Wet Dreamworld. Yeah. Oh, my God. I did not even use that. Is that why you were like... Funny watching you work that out. So many of the things that seem like I'm making a pun is that. Fully unintentional.

Alright, I again got stuck in a little rabbit hole. For Wangaratta? Wangaratta. Because I'm like, Wangaratta, I know Nick Cave lived there. Oh yeah. He was born in Warwick, Nebile, but I know he lived some of his early years in Nick Cave.

And so what are they doing? They're touring the best caves of Australia. That's true. Hometown of Nick Cave. In Nick Cave. And so what are they doing? They're touring the best caves of Australia. That's true. Including the hometown of Nick Cave. You are good. You're piecing this together. But yeah, there is a big mural of Nick Cave there in Wangaratta, I believe. But I'm like, oh, I wonder if there's any other notable residents of Wangaratta.

So I'm looking that up. Turns out Aussie war hero Sir Weary Dunlop was born there. Cool. You familiar with? Yeah, I know Weary Dunlop. And so you probably, I was going to say this. This might be interesting for some listeners who don't know him. You know where he got the nickname?

Classic sort of like two degrees of separation punish nickname. What? like two degrees of separation punish nickname on dunlop is a brand of tires tired weary that's how he got his nickname yeah it's like on the edge of good and awful i love it yeah right big fan love that it's funny like we all know him as weary dunlop and that was just because his name was also a brand name for ties. Love that. Huge fan. Oh, my God. I cannot get over that. That is so good. Something I didn't know.

Weary. Another word for ties. That's amazing. Something I didn't know about him was he grew up playing Aussie rules football, but then took up rugby union in 1931. You're the big rugby fan of the pod, Bob. Did you know this about him? No, I didn't actually.

So this is wild to me. Just a brief detour here. Much like we're on our own road trip. And we're going past and there's a signpost saying, weary Dunlop fact. I'm like, oh, guys, mind if we just turn off here for a quick. Have a look at a fact. Maybe we could get a neenish tart and a pie. Oh, my God, yeah.

Oh, I'm listening. So, he grew up playing Aussie rules football, Victorian. That makes sense. But he took up rugby union in 1931 as a 24-year-old, playing for the Melbourne Uni fourth grade team. You know, pretty low. Yeah. Low level rugby. but he quickly progressed through

the grades obviously it was pretty handy uh worked his way up third grade second grade first grade then he made the state team and finally the national team what in 1932 he played for the Wallabies. Wow. He played in 1931, fourth grade, first time. In 1932, he played for Australia. Wow. Isn't that wild? I've never heard of anything like that. Is it just sort of like one of those things where you're like, you know, I haven't really played a lot of rugby.

And they go, look, mate, we'll start you in the fourth. Yeah, yeah. You'll be all right. You'll pick it up. And then they see him play and go, yeah, we're going to have to bump him up. Yep. Or I bump him up again. Yeah.

And again. Yeah, actually, yeah, no, none of these are quite good enough. Can we create a new level, like some sort of intergalactic level for him to play? He's actually a little too good for the Wallabies. That's amazing. I didn't know that at all. Yeah, it's like, oh, you're a war hero. But also, I just didn't know he played for the Wallabies at all,

let alone that sort of meteoric rise. He was the first Victorian player to represent the Wallabies. He was part of the first Aussie squad to win the Bledisloe Cup off New Zealand. Cool. And he remains the only Victorian to have been inducted into the Australian Rugby Union Hall of Fame. Wow. The only Victorian to have been inducted into the Australian Rugby Union Hall of Fame. Wow. The only Victorian.

Holy shit. Amazing. That's incredible. What a great little like side street we just took on our road trip. Anyway, let's head back. That was worth it. Jump back on the Hume. I know when we were on the Hume and I was like, oh, it says it's a few Ks off the Hume.

I don't want to detour that far. I was wrong. You know, that was worth it. The sign said Australia k's off the human I don't want to detour that far I was wrong you know that was worth it the sign said Australia's best pie yeah it was a worthy detour Dave's happy

he's got a pie it was so good we've got a little fact I didn't hear anything you just said did you get me any sweet treats from the bakery

oh yeah get me a nippies what did you get I got a range of tarts we've got custard jelly and other oh I'll have jelly and other.

I'll have other. And other tart, please. I reckon people who have tuned in going, I'm finally so glad to hear this story of the Trumps. They'll be loving this. They'll be loving these detours. They will not at all be getting frustrated or yelling at their iPods. Hey, it's a new year.

We're feeling a little loose, a little silly. We've just come back from holidays. Well, yeah, I know you're used to us being the podcast who stays on topic, just gets the facts out. But we're trying something different this time. We're just having a bit of fun. Sorry if you're getting a little weary of these stories. You know, Dave, it's interesting you say that. All right, let's get back to the trumps.

So, Kobe and Mark arrive in Wangaratta, home of Weary Dunlop, by the way. Only Victorian to be inducted into the Rugby Hall of Fame. So, anyway. So, Kobe and Mark arrive in Wangaratta. Soon after, for the final time, they split the party again. Oh, my God. No. So, they've split every possible combination.

Whoa. They started out as a fivesome and they've ended up as five singles. Kobe leaves Mark and travels back up north to Yas. Yas. Around Yas. Has she taken the Peugeot? No, she's taken the public transport. Oof.

The people's Peugeot. Yeah. No, she's taken the public transport. The people's Peugeot. Yeah. So, yeah, Yass is about 350 kilometres away. It's not known why they split up or why Kobe heads back north again. Possibly because she knows or she believes her daughters are up in that direction maybe she's like actually i want to go back and catch up with them again can't call them no exactly um and yeah they don't know how she got there but it was probably train and bus or a combination that evening after 10 p.m a young couple are out playing pokemon go in wangarata this uh there you go

that's this that asks your earlier question i was wondering if you would have if you would remember that because it was it was hot at the time oh my god it was wild it was all you could just you go anywhere around melbourne there'd be clumps of people it was like it was dangerous people were like getting hurt you know periods people were like falling off cliffs and stuff because they weren't looking. They're like, oh, well, there's a Jigglypuff over here. Oh, no. Seriously. Generations from now, you go, yeah, I lost my granddad

in the Pokemon Go disaster of 2016. And you just go like, I remember like, I didn't actually see that, but I was working at the project at the time because I remember videos coming in of people, like adults gathered at playgrounds at midnight and there'd be like 300 people there all playing Pokemon Go. It was just wild. If you were working this week,

the project would have definitely been all over this Trump story. I think it was, by this point, it's all over the media. Media becomes obsessed with it. It's making front pages. But did you say August 2016? Yeah yeah i was in europe at that time there you go yeah two months in europe all right man this guy remembers oh i've traveled get it oh i'm a virgin in europe we got it how did we do the podcast that That's what I called the tour. Did we bank a heap of them?

I think that's the only time I've missed two episodes. Oh, that's... I think we started a rumor you'd gone for some sort of a camp. Jesus Christ. With a topic that... It's a thing we don't really talk about anymore. Long listeners will know what we're referencing there. It's since got out of hand and I was...

Long listeners, people who are tall. there. It's since got out of hand and I was long listeners. People who are tall. Drawn into some very upsetting memes. Yeah. So we'll just stop being funny. We'll put a little stop to that one. Upsetting memes. Stuff that if you saw it

without the context of the podcast, you'd be like, Jesus. Yeah. Which is what started happening when people Googled your name in image search. So, yeah. We don't make that joke anymore.

Anyway, so. All right. I've got to say it image search. So, yeah. We don't make that joke anymore. Anyway, so. All right, I've got to say, it was Nazis. Just in case you're imagining even worse. It's hard to imagine. Just in case you were thinking it was something really bad. It was just Nazis is what he's saying. Were they spitting rumors that Dave was a feminist or something? Terrible like that.

No, Nazis. Don't worry about it. It was fine. Anyway. I was just panicking. I'm like, imagine what people are imagining. Yeah, you don't need that. No.

You don't need to leave it up to people's imagination. Not our listeners. No, no, no. Don't know how dark you're getting out there. Bunch of freaks. So, Kobe's gone, headed back up north to Yas. But that evening,

after 10pm, young couple were out playing Pokemon Go and Wangaratta when they notice they're being stalked by a silver Peugeot station wagon. Oh my God,

someone's trying to steal their Magikarp. This is our Magikarp! Piss off! One of the Pokemon Go players spoke to the Age newspaper on condition of anonymity saying, I could barely see his headlights because he was that close to my car. Just that like real tailgating, like bumper to bumper sort of stuff.

Whenever they pull over, the Peugeot stops right behind them. When they go, the Peugeot follows close behind again. Being really subtle. Yeah. When they stop for the final time, a man, believe to me, Mark Tromp, gets out of his car and runs towards them. Fucking hell. He then stops in the middle of the road and stares

before turning and walking to Wangaratta's Merawa Park, disappearing into the darkness. Police later search the park but are unable to find Tromp. They do find the Peugeot with its keys still in the ignition. Of course. Classic. It's that calling card. Where else did you put that?

That is terrifying. That is so scary. Obviously, you don't know who this man is and that something has happened And he's not very well Like that's fucking scary Oh my god Yeah

Yeah very very creepy I don't like that at all Um They also believe Trump has changed his clothes At this point I don't know why they made that point in one of the articles But I guess it's good to know That he's keeping up with fashion trends Wearing a tuxedo or something has changed his clothes at this point. I don't know why they made that point in one of the articles. Okay. I guess it's good to know that he's keeping up with fashion trends.

Was he wearing a tuxedo or something? Yeah. It was notable. Yeah, it was weird. The following day, Thursday, September the 1st, around noon, Kobe is seen wandering the streets of Yass in an agitated state.

Soon after, she was admitted to a hospital there according to the daily mail after being admitted staff recognized her from media reports about her disappearance and called police sergeant mark knight said doctors at the hospital had assessed mrs trump about uh about her mental health and it wasn't of a good standard that's a quote from sergeant knight wasn't of a good standard. That's a quote from Sergeant Knight. Wasn't of a good standard. He added it was the most baffling case he had dealt with in more than 30 years on the force. I believe from there, Kobe reunited with her eldest daughter, Rihanna, at a mental health facility for treatment. I think that was in Goulburn. Wow.

All right. Next day, Friday, September the 2nd. That following morning, Mitchell appears on the Today Show hoping to get his dad home safe. So now it's only Mark who is unaccounted for. Last he was seen, he's believed to be running into that park in Wengero. Does he know his dad's a big fan of Karl Stefanovic? Yes.

So he's tuning in every morning. That's right. To watch the Today Show. That might have been it, yeah. And Mitchell's well enough to appear on TV. Yes, well, it seems like Mitchell of the family was the least affected by whatever's happened here. He was the one who brought his phone.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He almost went along because he said that he was worried. He just wanted to see where they were going and stuff. So, yeah, it makes sense that he'd be the one talking to the media. He's asked why his dad might not want to return home. Mitchell replies, he's scared that people are after him. He's not in a good state of mind. It remains unclear who these people might have been uh Mitchell continues I've never seen anything like it it's

really hard to explain or put a word on it but they were just fearing for their lives and then they decided to flee I've never seen my parents or anyone go to this extreme it's nothing I've ever dealt with before but I've had a lot of family support around me lately and hopefully some good comes out of this and my dad comes home and he's safe and well. At around 9.30am, the owners of the Miller's Cottage Motel in Wangaratta found one of their rooms had been broken into.

The door had been left ajar, the bathroom seemed to have been used and the bed slept in There was also a muesli bar wrapper on the floor Okay Dead giveaway He's had a snack This is a sign

And when it says bathroom is used Has he failed to flush? Well it said seemed to have been used So I'm guessing there's just a few droplets of water in the shower You know those old school motels Where they'd put like a paper seal on the toilet? Yeah there was a shit on that he could not open it he couldn't work it out how do i get this he just shat on top of it

and look i get it and they're like i think a human might have been in here not sure though can't be sure but after the lab it's just a theory i have uh this same day an article about the trumps is published in the age in it he says of uh this same day an article about the trumps is published in the age in it uh saying it says of the case sergeant mark knight of mum bulk knows the family and says they have no diagnosed mental health problems or drug issues no one one in the family is accessed. Accessed? Accessed. Jeez, I'm struggling with some basic words.

No one in the family accessed a doctor or psychologist recently, which seems like wild information to be giving the public, or been issued a prescription, he says. They do not belong to any churches or sects and do not have any debts. He's baffled. Okay. On Saturday, next day, Saturday, September the 3rd at 5.50pm, Trump is seen walking along the side of a road near Wangaratta Airport.

He's picked up and escorted back to the Wangaratta Police Station where he's interviewed and after about five hours released A family member collects him from the station Amongst a throng of waiting media Possibly it was his brother's a cop back home in Victoria I read somewhere that it might have been him Yeah, right Who was looking after him

So the media's there waiting Asking questions and stuff He flips him the bird Classic looking after him uh so the the media is there waiting asking and asking questions stuff he flips him the bird classic mitchell and ella speak to the media from their home in sylvan letting them know they appreciate everyone's concern according to a news.com article from the time mitchell said he did not feel in danger when he joined the family trip uh quote i had to go with the family because i wanted to see where they were going i couldn't leave them but yeah it was tough to see your family like that and i've never seen anyone like it asked what trip asked what triggered

the trip ella said it is very confusing i still feel confused i think our state of minds wasn't in the best place and there's no one reason for it it's bizarre so he was sort of swept up in it but um isn't really sure what happened yeah it's just amazing to be in the middle of it and like something was going on but i don't even really know what it was yeah and this is after a few days of being able to process it, still unsure. Mitchell said all he felt was relief and that that morning was the first time he hadn't woken up crying in a few days. Wow. In hindsight, I should have stayed with him, Mitchell said,

of his decision to be the first to separate from the family. The siblings were reluctant to expand further on details, saying police are still investigating. More than anything we are just happy that dad's alive and he's going to come back home and all the family is going to come back home and we can get back to normal ella said um they're also really excited because i i don't know if it was that week or in the coming weeks it was father's day so like they're like oh so glad i have dad back for father's day that. Asked again by a journalist if he knew what sparked the incident,

Mitchell Trump said there were a few things, but nothing he could state for sure, saying, there are possible things, but I can't say at this stage because I'm not certain. I can see why the public want to know, but it's a family matter and we just want the family to be back together and for everything to work itself out and i think it will so he's sort of he's like suggesting that there's something but he says he can't say what it is and that's still not clear what those things were because they've been very private about it ever since

in the following days rihanna and and Kobe were released from their treatment facility and the family is all reunited and heads back to the farm. And by the sounds of it, have gotten their life back to normal as they were hoping. So what happened? Yeah. It's still unclear. Okay. But there's theories, some seemingly more solid than others. than others but well let's go through a few

of them one of the prominent theories at the time was that the family had been affected by chemicals used on the farm or perhaps their water supply had been affected by a toxin somehow and that led to a collective paranoia this seems to have been ruled out though after an inspection of the farm found no traces of anything such like that yeah that was that was my sort of i was like gas leak always think gas leak yeah but yeah that would sort of make sense but if that apparently it's been yeah it's been ruled out yeah i mean i'm not willing to rule anything in or out right now i think that's wise another theory is that the family owed some bad people money and were fleeing from them,

which might explain why they had been sorting through their financial records before suddenly leaving the house. Because they realised, oh no, we don't have any money. Yeah. Apart from this cash that we're leaving with. This was also ruled out by authorities who said the family businesses were all profitable and they weren't in any financial stress. Though some argue that there could have been other unknown debts

that the cops don't know about. But there doesn't seem to be any evidence of this. But, I mean, who knows? We have seen that they have withdrawn $50,000. We have seen that they have withdrawn $50,000 and it does appear to be a $50,000 credit in a bank account of a known mob boss. But we cannot be sure. And we did find Keith's head in the bed.

It's Keith's horse. it's Keith's horse others have suggested that they were involved in some sort of a cult and were attempting to flee but you heard the policeman

Knight who knew the family quite well saying he was trying to dispel that to the media saying they're not involved in any cults

or religious organisations because that was a rumour or a theory that was sort of spreading around interesting because it really caught the nation's attention yeah at the time and so everyone had their theory um and maybe part of the reason it's why they're like hey this is a family matter just leave us alone but they were being pretty respectful yeah Apart from when Mark flipped them the bird. He later sort of apologised for that. Sorry about that, everyone. Sorry about that, guys. When you say sort of apologise.

Well, you know, I didn't say, I'm sorry that I flipped you the bird. He said something like, I really appreciate everyone's concern, sort of thing. Yeah. I went to give a thumbs up. I put the wrong finger up

and it was too late. The car was gone. I was like, oh, no. Oh, dear. What have I done? I said to the driver, do a U-turn. They refused. I went to do this.

Give me a thumbs up. And then one of these to show you my wedding ring. I've never had great dexterity or control of my digits. I apologize. So, yeah, there's a few of the vaguely believable ones then there's ones that are even more believable such as

there are some and you still see them commenting on clips or threads online saying that it seems to point pretty clearly to an alien encounter yeah um i think that's pretty clear that i extrapolate a lot from that but i think you sort of can your time the dots they're sounding almost sarcastic but this i really that's very flattering to suggest i have more than one tone but this is number one theory aliens i agree

that's the only thing like i was thinking this whole time i've just been thinking alien and canadians well now how does the aliens play into this what do you think's happened there buzzed them yep and then came down what was aliens have said what we need you to do is go to a big cave and then visit the home of nick cave and then split the party and they did exactly that they did everything they were instructed to well Well, if that, yeah, no, I hadn't really, now that you've said it like that, that does make a lot more sense. Okay, here's what happened.

So, aliens come down. They're like, hello, we're aliens. I know this can be a little confronting for you. We are super friendly, stoked to be here. To, you know, as a gesture, we would love to invite you to our spaceship for dinner. And the family were like that's actually really nice let's go so off they go nobody at the time realized that human stomachs

cannot process alien food oh no it's just it's just food poisoning it's made a bit loopy okay and it wears off you know yeah and of course they're being secretive because i don't want to give away the aliens because not everybody's going to be so welcoming yeah that's true you know what the feds are like they're always like oh i'll get these aliens and and it's like fox mold is sort of the exception isn't it yeah yeah yeah there's a lot more skullies than molders you know what i mean yes uh that that's one of the more believable theories. Also, another one that I think is pretty... Solid. Solid would be that demonic possession was involved. Yeah.

Sorry, I confused my theory. I actually think this is right. Yeah, okay. So maybe Mark... Is a demon. Is a demon. Well, has been possessed. At the very least. At the very least by a demon.

And then, you know, and you know what demons are like love a road trip they love road trips they love caves yeah they love the prince of darkness nick cave yes that's true this makes sense so that yeah that one i mean i don't have to go into that too much but i think that one obviously is a i'll put that in the maybe pile uh but the most persistent theory and this is the one that if if this was solved this is what people would say is the this is the the truth i mean the alien people would also say they've solved it with their theory but most persistent theory is that the family was suffering from a shared psychotic disorder also known as a folly which i think is french for i think it's french for madness of two oh yeah okay am i saying right oh yeah oh according to a u.s government health

website the term folly a do includes several syndromes in which mental symptoms, particularly paranoid delusions, are transmitted from one person to one or more others with whom the apparent instigator is in some way intimately associated so that he or she and they come to share the same delusional ideas. Although this condition involves two people, it can extend from the original subject to three, four or five persons. Okay. Follet a trois.

Follet a quatre. Follet a cinque. Or even a whole family. Follet a family. Which I guess is what's happening in this case. Even though it's what people talk about. I always say follet a deux. Yeah.

But apologies to the French listeners i know that this would be making you yell at your ipods right now um an exact figure for the incidence and prevalence of a follow is not available it is certainly more common in isolated communities and families where there is a great urge to defend the status quo so i mean isolated, they're a family on a farm working seven days a week together. Yeah, all very close. Very insular world they've created. Yeah. According to this great compendium, I found wikipedia.org.

Are you familiar with this? Is that a French website? Yeah, I think it's actually a french website mainly about french psychiatric disorders and these sort of things oh that's really niche yeah it is pretty niche but it's it's pretty in depth in that niche which is the internet's got the ability to do that so check it out if you're interested in those sort of things wikipedia.org uh writes while the exact causes of shared delusional disorder are unknown the main two contributors are stress and social isolation. So, potentially both of those are ticked.

People who are socially isolated together tend to become dependent on those they are with, leading to an inducer's influence on those around them. Additionally, people developing shared delusional disorder do not have others reminding them that their delusions are either impossible or unlikely. You know, if you're going out and you're working with different groups and socializing with another group, you're probably talking about these things. They're going, oh, no, that's pretty unlikely that people are after you or whatever. It's pretty unlikely aliens are after you. Yeah. What are you talking about? Because of this, treatment for shared delusional disorder includes those affected be removed from the inducer.

Stress is also a factor because it triggers mental illness. The majority of people that develop shared delusional disorder are genetically predisposed to mental illness, but this predisposition is not enough to develop a mental disorder. is not enough to develop a mental disorder. However, stress can increase the risk of this disorder when stressed an individual's adrenal gland releases the stress hormone cortisol into the body, increasing the brain's level of dopamine. This change can be linked to the development of a mental illness such as a shared delusional disorder.

So then this kind of seems to add up. I haven't talked about that much, but the kids did say that that uh their dad mark was getting increasingly stressed in the lead up uh to the event so makes sense maybe that mark started to believe people were after the his money and his family slowly this idea was passed on to his partner kobe and then it seems rihanna was the next most affected and then maybe to a lesser extent on ella and then not so much on a Mitchell, but... Mitchell's always on his phone. He's on his phone playing Angry Birds. Yeah, that's right.

What did you say? And the bloody old people like, oh, the kids these days are always on their phones. Well, it just saved Mitchell's life. Yes, it did. Okay. Yeah, they're all working. Like seven days a week is a hectic, you know,

there's only, I know the Beatles will tell you otherwise, but there. Like seven days a week is a hectic, you know, there's only, I know the Beatles will tell you otherwise, but there are only seven days a week. So that's all of them. And that, you know, there's no outside or few outside influences. Was it Jack Nicholson all work and no play? Yes. Go on.

Ah, you know the rest. Since the incident, the Trumps have returned to their farm life and have kept a low profile, and it seems like life has returned to normal. No criminal charges came about from the road trip after Rihanna and Ella's car theft charges were dropped. Okay. And I think the person whose car it was seemed to be okay with that. Oh, that's nice.

In 2017, a year after their infamous road trip, Rihanna spoke briefly with Woman's Day magazine and added weight to the whole folie a deux theory. News.com summarized saying, Mr. Trump told Woman's Day, we're all very embarrassed. We didn't want to be famous. That's for famous people. So true. Don't you't want to be famous. That's for famous people.

So true. Don't you reckon? So well said. Famous for the famous. They can keep it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've always said that. But I think maybe this was possibly in response to some people

who were like, oh, this just seems like the... Yeah. Like, you know how cynical some people are? Oh, yeah, this is just... They're looking for attention. Here we go. They just want to be on Celebrity Big Brother. We know it.

We know what they're doing. They want to go on Family Feud with Grant Denyer. They're like, no, no. We don't want that. We didn't want, like, what a wild way to go about it. Yeah. Miss Trump said her father had been suffering from a mental breakdown, which he now realises had been building for some time.

She said part of the reason he decided to leave the farm was because he felt like he was in danger but also because he wanted to spend time as a family in the interview miss trump said she did start believing her father's claims that the family were in danger she said she believes it was the build-up of stress that caused the incident you have a few things and they do build up. You can get sick in some way, she said. So she was really, I mean, it ended up with her jumping into a guy's ute.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. And then forgetting her name and amazing. This all started from her dad believing that people were after him yeah incredible isn't it um so yeah so that that's that seems like what it was and that's but i mean people still do talk about it as you know the internet will do that aliens and whatnot but it seems like

that's the one that makes the most sense i hadn't heard of this folio do but i'm going to finish with a few examples of it happening in other cases so many of the examples i found ended up with grisly murders unfortunately like a lot and you know like people being brought along and then believing a delusion. Yeah. But I'm going to give you three examples of this website. I just mentioned before, but I should give it another plug, wikipedia.org. Oh, yep. But these are the examples that came up. That was one of French psychiatric disorders.

Yes, which is why they have quite a few examples about folie a deux. Is it in French? I think the internet automatically translates it. Oh, that is so good. Either the internet does or my brain does. Is that possible that I can read French and I'm just... It's not impossible. Okay.

Yeah, well, so I can't say definitively either way. Yeah, fair enough. It possibly is in French and I can just read French. Yeah, cool. And translate it into English. That's amazing. Well, it is if it's true. Yeah.

I'd be stoked if that is the case. That'd be so handy actually. So the first one does end grisly, but the other two don't. Not so much. In May, this one potentially could be a tone bonus report at some point, but very briefly, in May 2008, there was a case with twin sisters Ursula and Sabina Erickson. Ursula ran into the path of an oncoming truck,

sustaining severe injuries. Sabina, a twin, then immediately duplicated her twin's action by stepping into the path of an oncoming car. This is on film. Like it was played on one of those like police traffic reality shows in England. Sounds full on. Both sisters survived the incident with severe but non-life-threatening injuries. It was later claimed that Sabina Erickson was a secondary sufferer of folie a

deux influenced by the presence of her sister ursula who was the primary uh sabina sabina later told an officer at the station we say in sweden that an accident rarely comes alone usually at least one more follows maybe two which is very ominous she was then released from hospital behaved erratically before stabbing a man to death oh my god yeah so that's uh that's a full-on story there's more to it but um so that's one example the next one fuck yeah you're you're not wrong that was a grisly one i said wow but I meant wow in like a bad way. Holy fuck. Like a, oh, wow.

I'm shaking my head as I say it, you know? The next one we're kind of familiar with. In the book Bad Blood, Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup, suggests that this ailment plagued the founder of Theranos, Elizabeth Holmes, and her boyfriend slash business partner, Ramesh Balwani. Can't remember if Naomi mentioned that, but yeah, supposedly that was something, maybe. That's at least what one theory is about what was going on with them

was that maybe they were sort of feeding this delusion. I don't know if that's suggesting that they believed that this all worked because in that story, it was pretty clear that they were sort of feeding this delusion. I don't know if that's suggesting that they believed that this all worked because in that story it was pretty clear that they were... They knew it wasn't working. ...cutting corners and they were lying about it. The tromps are also now featured on this wiki page as an example as well as a bunch of other grim ones and there's some ones not on wiki that were equally just real sad and the last one i'll

tell you about is is not so grim and it's i think it's the case that actually helped they coined the term over so i think it happened in france i think it wasn't in the 1800s i think it was a while back anyway and it was briefly a married couple by the name of Margaret and Michael were both aged 34 years and they were discovered to be suffering from a folly, when they were both found to be sharing similar delusions. They believed that certain people were entering their house, spreading dust and fluff and wearing down their shoes,

like wearing the soles of their shoes down both had in addition other symptoms supporting a diagnosis of emotional contagion which could be made independently in either case so that's uh i mean it's all it's it's it's a little more harmless sad but yeah it's all sad but it's still like but isn't that amazing that our bodies can do that? Yeah, I know. They can pick up on what somebody else's body is doing? Ideas can be kind of contagious.

Yeah. Yeah, very fascinating. Amazing. And only with people that you're like very, very close to. And that's why I keep everyone at a distance. Yes. In case. I will not succumb.

Safety first. You guys don't even know my real name. Duh. Duh. Duh Perkins. But I have been wearing your shoes whilst you sleep. Wearing them down. Wearing them down. Spreading dust.

And fluff. Yeah. So, I mean, obviously it's ridiculous to, we do this all the time with the mystery ones, and it's ridiculous that you've heard my brief version of this story do you have a does it give you any any any instinct to what you think might have been the case yeah it felt like some sort of folly yeah um oh yeah i would have been leaning towards like toxins or something affecting them that way but then you would kind of think

once you move away from it and you're not drinking that water for example maybe it would wear off fairly quickly but what were they saying that like the way to get over this is to remove them from yes like the source so would that be just like separate the family for a bit yes which they doesn't sound like they've done but it sounds like they've had a lot of support come in like their extended family and stuff they're all and they're you know they're all looking after each other now i think once you're aware of something like this yeah it probably makes it easier to um break the cycle of it or whatever and if splitting everyone up is like the best way to do it splitting the party sounds like that was actually the way to sort of one by one

they realise, hang on, what's going on? Yeah, which sort of makes sense as to why they would start breaking off. Like, oh, this is a bit much, I need to get. But then Mitchell later goes, I really should have stayed and tried to. I know, but you think about that, maybe they would have just fed each other's delusion. Yeah, exactly. And maybe done something.

He probably did the right thing by doing going and leaving and it all did end up happily in the end which is i thought you're going to tell us that mark especially died i thought they're going to i thought the mystery was going to be what happened to him where's his body or something but yeah so that's really a welcome relief that's right yeah it's rare that these these kind of stories end like that because you know if it did go missing you'd still be like he wouldn't have been around to go no i didn't owe anyone money yeah well that's because yeah you kept saying stuff like it's believed we're not sure why and i'm thinking that means one of them's gone yeah but it's just because they were in a different state they can't answer the question and and now have been very private about it yeah like that very short interview with

woman's day yeah understandable being private about it i guess yeah i mean i would have done the same thing but then i would then like if you're private about it you're not going to get on celebrity big brother or family feud that's true so it is a yeah it's a win-lose scenario really wasted that opportunity yeah we'd kill to be on Celebrity Big Brother. And sometimes that's what it takes. All right. Well, a great report, I've got to say. I didn't know about that story.

I had obviously, I was just out of overseas for the right amount of weeks. So, I wasn't across that story at all. So, that was really cool. Yeah, I'm not sure why. I think I don't really follow the news that much no i i definitely heard about it more after the fact right i don't remember you know seeing it reported on at the time because you wake up with carl most days don't you i wake up with carl oh yeah and whoever the co-host is whoever it is at the time at the time wilkinson it's not even carl is it is carl gone time, it would have been Lisa Wilkinson. It's not even Carl anymore, is it? Is Carl gone?

Carl's definitely not. No, he's back on the Today Show. Oh, okay. Carl's back. Good for Carl. Carl's back. He's charming. He's a larrikin.

Good on him. He wore the same suit for a year one time. Yeah, as a statement. It was a feminist statement. And I'm like, ooh, stepping on my toes a bit there, buddy boy. Back off, Carl. Back off. You don't lean in.

The ladies lean in. That's what I say. That's why you've worn the same clothes every day. Yeah. I stink for feminism. Yeah. And as a feminist. I reek of feminism.

I appreciate it. You're a feminist too? I'm a feminine. Okay. I was going to say, you better not sip on that. I know. I wouldn't dare. There's only room for one on this podcast.

This isn't the kind of thing where it's like, oh, I'm going to make room for you, Jess. Yeah, no, no, no. I'm making room for me, the feminist of the program. Yeah. The program. And I'm sorry that I take up so much space. Do you remember Do Go On?

Well, it's back in program form. That's not anything. All right. So that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the program uh where we thank a few of our great supporters you can become a supporter if you like by going to patreon.com slash to go on pod or do go on pod.com links in the show notes very easy and clickable if that's what you like. Click the shit out of them. Click the shit. Hey, hit that link.

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Hurry up and feed me. So, the first one... I'm in the red zone and you know what that means. Oh, alright. Double time. Anyway, we've got to thank these people. First up, we've got Matthew Boar, who's given himself the title of champion of whispering nice words of encouragement into an iPod. Yes, Matthew.

Thank you. That's fantastic. Thank you so much, Matthew. Do you guys ever just sort of have a feeling every now and then, just a warm feeling? Yeah. I think that's Matthew. I thought it was piss. No, Dave, for you it is, but it's more of a feeling in your heart.

Do you ever have that? Yeah. Feeling in your pants, that's piss. Matthew anything butterball is what I call it. Oh, my God. That's good. Matthew has given us a brag. Yes.

Hit us. Matthew writes, hey, guys. I've been the patreon for for a couple of years now i guess that could be my brag and i thought i would use the opportunity to instead brag on you if not allowed please just have a very long awkward pause okay brag on us well i haven't read i haven't i don't read these until I read them. Let's find out. If at any point any of us want it to stop, we just yell stop and then we all have to be silent. Okay. And then we pause. Yeah.

And then I'll go pause. Yeah. That's fun. All right. Matthew continues. After seeing the pod suggested on the weekly planner, I decided to give dugo on a listen while on a long road trip road trip after 30 minutes of trying to figure out who was dave and who was matt in the little bubble photo i quickly became hooked and after finishing the episode maybe this sealand one i loaded up three more for the return trip after pulling over the car from tears of laughter at the mr hands segment

in the wild deaths episode i knew i would be firmly on the dugong train oh imagine that we're on we're literally on a beach when we're talking about mr hands remember imagine that being one of the first episodes you hear of us. Everything would feel a bit tame after that. Yeah, you'd be like, oh, these guys are vanilla. I still think about how we were on that beach in front of a resort in Thailand, broadcasting out loud with a PA system. Yeah.

Talking about Mr. Hands, the guy having sex with a horse, and then there's people who have paid obviously a lot to have the beachfront cabins. Yeah. They can probably hear the episode on their entire holiday what about the people behind us who were having dinner on the beach remember that set up every time probably going what's happening what's going on we did a stand-up show as well on the beach and it started raining and tommy and carl came to like relieve me because i was on stage that started to rain but i was doing well and i said don't you fucking come out here if i was doing badly it would have been like oh i gotta start the rain i want to keep going i'd love to go on god you know sorry sorry everyone don't you dare come out here that's so good that was a good night that was a great night

uh anyway matthew goes on over the past couple of years you three have played have played on the way to some of my greatest adventures and also some of the hardest drives in the background at work and in studying breaks while retaining jobs or retraining jobs. What a funny idea to think of work as I'm retaining my job again today. I show up to retain it. Here I am, retaining. No, while retraining jobs. Pre-COVID and post-COVID, all throughout, you three and the pod have brought a lot of joy in my life,

sometimes when I need it at most. I know I'm not unique in this, as so many Patreon supporters have had the same experience, but I just wanted to take the time to in some way thank you from all of us. You have truly created something more than just another podcast, and I hope you know the impact you all have to those who listen. Do go on doing what you're doing. That's slightly embarrassed.

That's so nice. Thank you, Matthew Boer. I don't think you know what a brag is, but back to the question, compliment or suggestion? We will not accept compliments. That is so lovely. Thank you for that. I think, you know, because a lot of it,

a lot of what we do is not on purpose in terms of like, we're just three friends who find each other funny. You know, there's not a lot of like, I don't know, scheming behind the scenes of like, what are they like? Let's give them that. We just enjoy each other's company. So that's really nice that you've enjoyed it too. Not a lot of scheming.

Obviously, we do a little scheming. You just one simply must scheme. Oh, that is so nice though. That is so lovely. Thank you. He's not even finished. He's got a line for each of us by the looks of it here. Dave, with the report cadence of a seasoned Dateline reporter,

many a report finished while in the driveway after being parked for 30 minutes. Jess, when giving reports on an inspiring person making you believe in humanity and want to be a better person yourself. Matt, even given the most gruesome reports, finding a way to find the humanity in the story and injecting humor.

Bloody hell, Matthew. That's so nice. Wow. Thank you, Matthew. That's really sweet. I appreciate that. Now let's get on to somebody just giving us a fact about cum or something. Yeah, we need a cleanser.

I don't know where you're from, Matthew, but Australia doesn't have a great compliment-taking culture. Yeah, we're not good at it. Although we seem to do it okay then. The next one comes from Ben Johnson. Ben, who was at that Mr. Hands live episode on the beach. Lucky Ben. Appropriately surnamed Johnson.

Appropriately Surnamed Johnson He's given himself the title of Roman numeral designator LXIX Dave quick Dave LXIX I know X is 10 I is 1

What's L? That's 19 Something 19 Cardi's good Anyway Ben's asked a question 69 Of course He's good Anyway Ben's asked a question Oh 69 Oh

Of course Sorry Ben That's very good Nah It's probably what he wanted us to do That's good stuff We're a minumeral designator 69

I was like It ends in nine What's it gonna be Come on What's it gonna be What's it gonna be So Ben has asked a question Hey guys At time of writing The new Forza Horizon game Well Jess Come on. What's it going to be? Come on. What's it going to be? So, Ben has asked a question. Hey, guys.

At time of writing, the new Forza Horizon game... Well, Jess, this would be to you, being our gamer. I know Dave has played that one where he hollowed out a watermelon or something. Fruit Ninja. Fruit Ninja. Thank you. Have you heard of Forza Horizon? Yes.

Great. Well, you're ahead of me. Don't know much about it, though. The new Forza Horizon game just came out, I created a Duguan themed car to drive around this gorgeous recreation of Mexico. I've already shared this on the Facebook group, but I require further validation from yourselves. So you sent us a picture. Let me pull this up.

Oh, sorry. Oh, do I have to? Oh, sorry. Is it basically like a pimp my ride type game where you get to pimp out your car i don't know because that sounds fun you don't want to drive it you just want to pimp it out no i'd like to drive it to the shops forza horizon there was a version of the sim Sims where you could have a car. That was fun.

The whole family would get in the car, go to the park. Oh, that does sound fun. Yeah, it's nice. That's how much you love a road trip, Bob. Even sitting at home. There it is. Oh. Oh Oh man

There we are in Mexico That's incredible Wow That pic That does look like A beautiful graphic That is fantastic We are looking at

A blue combi van I love a combi van With a do-go on Decal down the side Which It's honestly my dream car Yeah If I was

A billionaire Just to like Drive around Or just to have For like road trips And stuff Would you do up the inside So it was like a drive around or just to have for like road trips and stuff. Would you do up the inside so it was like a little camper? Yeah, I'd have it like beautiful old upholstery, but like, you know, nice and inside.

When I was a young teen, my dream was to have one with a big TV like from Pimp My Ride. Oh, hell yeah. To play like Xbox or something in the back there. And a beanbag. Mine would be, I loved the modern day V-Dub Beetle, but I think actually what I would love if I had heaps of cash

is I'd have an old Beetle, but like do it up on the inside. Hell yeah, I love that. That'd be sick. And also- Gotta be beautiful on the inside before you can be beautiful on the outside. That's so true.

And that's my problem. I'm a turd on both. I'm poo, throw and throw. I'm terrible. I don't think anyone does say that, though, do they? You've got to be beautiful on the inside to be beautiful on the outside. No. It sounded like it was something.

Yeah, because the beauty just oozes out of you. It was nothing. Yeah, for me, I just assume that's how it went because I'm beautiful inside and out. Oh, I know. It's intimidating. And you're, what did you say?

A duh inside and out? But Ben, that is so cool. I think we should make it after this, share that on the social media. Yeah, that's cool. I will try and remember to do that. We are recording quite ahead of time.

That is a note to Matt when you're listening to this. But anyway, I did say this was a question. Ben finished by saying, so now that travel's vaguely opening up again, what exotic locations would you like to do a Do Go On podcast from? Similar to the Costa Movie Festival. Oh, that's nice.

I have plans to go to Hawaii in the middle of the year if you guys want to come. We will be joining you. To that? That'd be nice. Yeah. Could do a little pod on the beach of the year. If you guys want to come. We will be joining you. To that. That'd be nice. Yeah. Could do a little pod on the beach of Honolulu. I wonder if we have any Honolulian listeners.

That'd be nice. Let us know. Where would be fun to do that? I know where Dave wants to do it. International waters, of course. Yeah. Thank you. It's my dream to get us out on a barge.

Yeah. Travel out the, what I've researched is about 300 kilometres off the coast before we get truly into the international waters. Start podcasting, start gambling. My heart. Obviously. Obviously. The whole podcast will be the rattling of dice

will be sort of happening underneath. Quite distracting. We'll do a bit of a podcast UFC. Oh, yeah. I'd love to do one. I'll kill you. I know. Overseas would be good.

I'd love to do one in a country town somewhere in Australia, just in a caravan park or something. That would be fun. You know, like in a caravan park, they'll have the barbecue set up? Yeah. So we do a cook-up on the barbie. Yeah. Everyone just gets a caravan or a little cabin there. Yeah. That's fun. park they have the barbecue setup yeah so we do we do a cook-up on the barbie yeah everyone just

like gets a caravan or a little cabin there yeah that's fun and we do it outdoors yeah outdoors just in the i think some of that would be nice just a big fan of caravan parks i was growing up all my favorite holiday memories um ben does answer the question himself as we always encourage people to do saying my answer is either japan or new zealand both amazing places i'd love to visit i'd be right up for both of those as well new zealand feels like it that feels more doable probably i'd assume our next overseas episode will be in new zealand i hope so yeah and japan would also be amazing. I haven't been to Japan, but I'd love to visit.

And I've been to New Zealand a few times and I bloody love it. Love New Zealand. Thank you so much for that question, Ben. Our next one comes from Sophie Shooter. Robson? Shooter. Because that's a joke at her own expense there

because she seems to... She picks and chooses, yeah. That's all right. One of those names is her knee. Yes, that's a joke at her own expense there because she seems to, she switches. She picks and chooses, yeah. That's all right. You can be both. One of those names is her knee. Yes, that's right. Knee Robson. I'd love to have a knee.

Just got to change my name. Yeah. Is that all you need? I guess so. It's all you knee. Sophie has given herself a title Group Mum. No, we're not nearly there yet. And if you ask me again, I'm turning this car around.

It's amazing how many road trip references there are. Can I have a lolly, Sophie? Sophie. I'm hungry. I want a lolly. Sophie has also bragged. Yes, Sophie. Sophie writes, every year for Christmas,

I like to choose a crafting item I've never tried before and include it in my gifting. I've done crochet, candles, and cross stitch. Last year I made filled chocolates. Wow. Which was so rewarding, but bloody annoying to do. Also, what's your favorite flavored filled choccy? Peppermint.

Mine's raspberry. Peppermint for you? Yeah, peppermint's very good. Caramel's great, yeah. Anything nutty? No, not a fan of nutty. Peppermint for me. I think it might be strawberry.

Like I love a strawberry Freddo. Oh, yeah. Love that flavour. Oof. Oof. Or when you have the Cadbury snack. I like the pink one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

When I was a child, I liked Cadbury snack as well. When I was a little boy. When I was working at a company, it's essentially like a tech startup. It was one of the biggest companies, I would say, in Australia. And so, there was lots of weird little perks. You could go upstairs and just help yourself to like... Are you ever going to have little perks? Yeah. Do you think of Go going to have little perks? Yeah.

Do you think of Goose as a little perk? He's a little perk. Actually, he's at the vet. He said I was Simpson. It's very upsetting. Anyway, you could go and get like drinks and there was always like chocolates and lollies and stuff. And anytime any of my team went, if they saw a mint Freddo in the gigantic bowl of treats you could have they'd grab one

for me because they're my favorite and they were rare and one we had a we had a kk one christmas and the girl who had me for weeks leading up to it hoarded as many of these mint freddos as she could and then just gave me a box of them that's really thoughtful but also what ass. No, she also gave me like a fun mug. She's like, yeah, great. I've given you something that the company gives for free. Here, here's a handful of gravel I picked up from outside your house. Hey, isn't that nice? I put it in your shoes.

You like gravel, don't you? I put it in your shoes. I know you said that, Tom. You love feeling that crunch of walking on gravel. So you can have that feeling anytime now. Definitely. Crunch time. I think maybe, yeah, maybe you've said that now.

I'll say if we go on that variety pack, I'll have the Caramello Koala. Yeah, great. Oh, we're sorted. Oh, love it. Anyway, that wasn't, oh, that's part of the brag. But Sophie finished by saying, this year my homemade gift, so this was last year, last Christmas, gave him a heart,

et cetera. That's in like two weeks ago. Yeah, two weeks ago. It sounded like it was eight. Sophie was made bars of soap. I really enjoyed making them and I can't wait for people to start using them. Oh,

that sounds like your mates are stinky. I'm going to guess this will read nearish christmas so i hope you three have a truly wonderful time and as ever thank you all for your hard work with this podcast and community uh thank you so much sophie it is uh leading up to christmas at time of recording sorry to spoil that bullshit riff we did before. We did not party together on New Year's Eve. As if. Yuck. We're all asleep probably.

Katie Clay's finally... Katie's given herself the title the mother of the sass queen. My ma? Mummy? And he has a lot to answer for then. Katie Clays. What a great name, Katie Clays. Katie's got a fact, which is Ernie Dingo is a Yamachi man,

Murchison region of WA, moved to Perth and took up an apprenticeship in sign writing and became a standout in Australian rules and basketball competitions across the metropolitan area before getting into acting. I once was privileged to see him accompanying Paul Kelly on stage in Broom WA, Paul singing and Ernie playing the didgeridoo. Bloody hell, Ernie Dingo. On the recording, I believe on the recording of Little Things,

Big Things Grows, didgeridoo at the end? And it is Ernie Dingo playing. Oh, shit. Oh, that's great. Because he's such a good actor, great presenter on travel shows. Imagine he loves a road trip. He's awesome. But I didn't realize he was a handy footballer and basketballer. And sign writer.

Yeah. So that's very artistic as well. Well, that feels like there's a report in there somewhere. Ernie does it all. Ernie's awesome. So funny. On Simply the Jest, we had a story one time of a girl who, I think it might have been, the topic was like celebrities.

No, I don't remember what it was. But she was like two and walking along a pier and she like put her, she leaned over to look in a big bucket that had fish in it and she fell into the bucket, a two-year-old. Oh, okay. I missed that bit. Yes. So it was like-

Hello, that's a funny pratfall. It was not good. No, that's not good. Somebody grabs her by the back of the shirt and pulls her out. It's Ernie Dingo. Fuck off. Saying, whose kid is this? That's why I was-

Holy shit, lifesaver. Every time I hear Ernie Dingo now, I'm like like it's a great story that's like it was already dingo that's amazing yeah wow you got to do a dingo report yeah and include that bit in it i would love to because you know some people don't even listen to the everyone's favorite section of the show which i know everyone agrees is weird but um that seems baffling why wouldn't even listen to the everyone's favorite section of the show which i know everyone agrees it's weird but um that seems baffling why wouldn't you listen they won't they really need to hear that story uh well that brings us to everyone's other favorite part of the show where we uh thank a few of our other great supporters jess you normally come up with little games we give them all a title or something based on the the topic of day. Maybe, yeah, what sites they'd see.

Instead of caves, Nick Cave and the caves, we can compare a natural thing and a famous celebrity. Do you reckon we can go with nine of those? What if so? We could just do... I reckon we could, couldn't we? We could just do the hometown of which celebrity they'd visit on their road trip. And then I'll try and see if I can get nine of the things that I just said.

Natural occurrences. If I can kick us off. Yeah, please. I'd love to thank, from Address Unknown, you can only assume from deep within the Fortress of the Moles, Justin Lyles. miles justin lyles justin lyles visits the hometown of rowan atkinson oh rowan atkinson yep rowan atkinson um also uh he uh goes to the home of s Kilda footballer Brad Hill. Okay. And then goes to a nice hill nearby. So you could have used Brad Hill for another person and said hill.

But I mean, what can I do with Rowan Atkinson? What I'll tell you, Rowan Atkinson is from Concert, a town in County Durham. What about he went to a concert in Concert? Went to a concert. And they obviously occur naturally. Yeah, a supernatural amphitheater. Yeah. Thank you very much, Justin.

I'd also like to thank, from a similar Fortress of the Mole scenario, Phil Hyatt. Phil Hyatt has visited the hometown of Halle Berry. Halle Berry. Where he ate a Rasp Berry Oh Naturally occurring It grew

I thought you were gonna say Ate a Piece of Halle's Comet Crunchy Kind of broke his teeth actually Yeah

Halle Berry is of course from Cleveland, Ohio God's country God's country, Ohio Cleveland Rocks Home of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I think. Very cool. There you go.

And finally from me, I'd love to thank, from Sheffield in Great Britain, nearby Leeds, Leeds, Leeds, I think, Maine, Jess, this looks like it's got an Irish or Gaelic sort of spelling, M-A-E-N? Yeah, I'm not 100% sure. Go for Maine. Maine Gallagher from Sheffield.

Maine Gallagher. And what... You tell me the hometown, Matt. Sheffield. But the hometown of which celebrity is she visiting? What is Maine visiting? Mr. Sheffield. Yes.

What's his name? I can't even think of his... I'll have to do two Google searches here. Charles Shaughnessy. Charles Shaughnessy, yes. From... Who is from... London!

London. London. And so what have we got there? We've got Charles... Oh, London Eye. Great. Naturally occurring... London Eye Oh London Eye Great Naturally occurring London Eye

London Eye Eye of a storm Yeah London Eye of a storm So he's seen a big Mr Sheffield It says here he's the Right Honourable The Lord Shaughnessy

Wow Wow two of those Bloody damn The Right Honourable The Lord Yeah It's too much Surely it's just the Right Honourable The Lord. Yeah. It's too much. Surely it's just the Right Honourable Lord. Comma.

Lord. Yeah. Comma. All right. All right. Jesus. What more do you need? Comma.

Can I thank some people as well? Please. That would be fantastic. I would love to thank from Auckland, New Zealand, where we would love to go one day soon, Roy Salazar. Oh, that is such a good name. That is such a good soon. Roy Salazar. Oh, that is such a good name. That is such a good name. My God, Roy Salazar. Roy Salazar visiting the hometown of Usain Bolt.

Oh. Yes, and being struck by lightning. Yes. Which naturally occurs. Naturally occurred lightning. Yeah. What is the hometown? Guff.

He's obviously from Jamaica, but he was born in Sherwood Content. There we go. Or Sherwood Content, a small town in Jamaica. Cool. Yeah.

Obviously, you take a photo there, create a bit of content. Yeah. Yeah. For the gram. And then get struck by lightning. Thank you, Roy.

This is the most confused version of this we've ever done. But it's fun. We'd also love to thank from Sydney, New South Wales Tim Everingham Tim Everingham Sydney, yeah, Sid was the pre-marriage name That almost works Everingham

That sounds like an English shire or something as it is Visiting the hometown of Barry Crocker That sounds like an English shire or something as it is. Visiting the hometown of? Barry Crocker. Barry Crocker. Which I reckon is Melbourne probably, but I hope it's some great regional. Let me look it up. Barry Crocker.

He is born in Geelong. Geelong. Geelong. Second biggest city in our fair state. 86 years old, Barry Crocker. Geelong is the second biggest city. Well, that makes sense, doesn't it? Stupid question, Jess.

Idiot. What's one of the big things you go see in Geelong? Geelong. Kadinia Park. If you're a Deakin Uni student, you have to go there for your graduation Oh fantastic Which is fun There's a beautiful They've done a lot of great work on the dock there

Yep Some beautiful beaches There was an ice skating rink there for a bit Back when I was at uni Great spot A few good breweries there now Yeah I mean it's the second biggest city in the state,

so it's got everything you need. Beautiful spot. Beautiful spot. Not far away from Melbourne. Yeah. Just, yeah, perfect. Close on the way to Bells Beach. That's right.

And the surf coast. Maybe you go there to look at a rip. Yeah. Yeah, go have a look at that rip. Go have a look at that rip. Yeah, glad you're not in that. Oh, bloody hell. I'd be sucking you out. Yeah. Yeah, go have a look at that rip. Go have a look at that rip. Yeah, glad you're not in that. Oh, bloody hell. That'll be sucking you out to sea.

Yeah, it is. Swim between the flags. So thank you to Tim. And finally for me, I would love to thank another New Zealand friend from Wellington. Ah, the Windy City.

Hilary McKay. That's a good name as well. Hilary McKay. Hilary McKay That's a good name as well Hilary McKay Hilary McKay Okay, Wellington Okay The hometown I've lost, I don't know

I was just thinking of a gumboot But we've got to go with the hometown of someone Paddington Paddington The hometown of Paddington In Peru Oh, Peru, that's right Darkest Peru I believe

Yeah I think so Those movies Like you're like These are kids movies And you're watching me like This is the best thing I've ever seen in my life

It's so good They are fantastic Great plane movies How good is Hugh Grant? Oh fantastic villain He's amazing in it He's so good I'm like

Oh my god Can Hugh Grant act? For a long time, he just played one character. And then it's like people are like, do you want to try something else? He's like, yeah, I'd love to. And then he's so good in it. Let me show you my reign. He's so good.

Oh, Hugh Grant. He's pretty good in The Gentleman. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, he is. Another sort of a weaselly rat. Yeah. Good accent work in that one.

So, okay, Paddington, Peru. Having a peruse. In Peru. That's good. That is good stuff. That is good stuff. You absolutely know all that, Dave. Yeah, we can't get more specific there.

It doesn't have a hometown. It was just in... No, I've tried to look it up, but no, it doesn't look like it. Peru. Dave, you want to take us home? We're thanking a few here. Yes, I would love to take us home with thanking a few here? Yes, I would love to take us home by

saying a big thank you and shout out to from Canton in Georgia, the United States, Tyler and Mandy Edwards. From Canton, Georgia. When I've got Georgia on my mind,

I can't help but think of those sweet peaches. Is that them? And Ray Charles. I'm talking about Ray's butt. And he is from Albany, Georgia. Albany, Georgia. Georgia.

And there you can call me Albany. I forgot what this, I forgot even what we're doing. No, you've got to think of like a natural occurring thing. So go see a volcano in Albany, I forgot what this, I forgot even what we're doing. No, you've got to think of like a natural occurring thing. So, go see a volcano in Albany, Georgia. Okay. And one of those famous Albany volcanoes. Yeah.

I've just realized what we're doing. I thought we were doing puns on the title. Like a cave in cave, Nick Cave. That's what I've been doing. So, sorry everyone if I confused you. Well, I haven't been sure for a while. I feel like we've we split the party at some point so three different scenarios here i'm not even sure i i don't think i've been doing anything at all but we're having fun i'm sure but i'm sure that's a

great volcano in albany yeah for sure so thanks tylene mandy mandy i'd like to also thank from From Orange in New South Wales, Megan. Megan. I love Orange. Orange. Megan, obviously. What is it? Are we saying they're from there or they're visiting? They're visiting the hometown of which celeb? They're visiting the hometown of famous redhead Prince Redman. What's his name?

Harry. Harry. Prince Harry, who's I imagine born in a London hospital. Yes. They're all born in the same one. That's boring. No. St. Mary's.

There's something in there. St. Mary's. And he went and saw that place where Mary appeared and there was a little fountain that had a healing waters in France. Yes. I've been to the town. I can't think of its name. I have no idea.

They sell jugs in the shape of Jesus there. They've really cashed in on it. Go get the holy water in this Jesus shaped jug. I reckon that's exactly what Jesus would have wanted. Wild. I'll find that. Is it Ruane? No, that's Zachary.

Lords? Lords. Or Lourdes. It's pronounced different, I think. Lourdes. Lourdes. Beautiful language when said properly. And finally, I'd like to thank from Braintree,

which I've never heard of, but I love it. And I believe it's in Essex in the greatest of Britons. Joe and Pippa. Joe and Pippa from Braintree. Braintree, love that. God, that's good. Patrick Stewart, where's he from? Patrick Stewart.

Because he's got a big brain. Because I was thinking of Salt and Pippa. Love it. Patrick Stewart. Joe and Pippa. Patrick Stewart was born in Merfield in the UK. Love it. Patrick Stewart. Joe and Pepper. Patrick Stewart was born in Merfield in the UK. Merfield.

He's Scottish, right? No, is he? Well, this is West Yorkshire. That's where he's born anyway. Apologies. I'm just going off Stuart because everyone knows Stuart is actually a Scottish name. I never really paid attention to it. I thought he just lost the accent.

Yeah. Well, he's that good. He never performs. Yeah, you've never heard his real voice. That's true. Isn't that beautiful? And what are we doing in Patrick Stewart's hometown of Murfield? Murfield.

Well, Murphy's law says you go tobogganing and everything goes wrong. You fall in. That's what happens. And who's going to pull you out? Ernie Dingo. Ernie Dingo. He'll get you. All right.

We somehow brought that around to some sort of a, what we'll call satisfying conclusion. That felt like something, even though it was certainly not something. Thank you, Joe, Pippa, Megan, Tyler, Mandy, Hillary, Tim, Roy, Mayne, Phil, and Justin. The last thing we'd like to do is thank a few of our, or welcome in a few of our long-term supporters

into the Triptych Club. If you're on the shout-out level or above, for three straight years, we bring you into the Triptych Club. This is a beautiful place. You go to ticket in once, you get a ticket for life. It's a one-way valve here. You can't leave.

Don't try. Jess, you're normally um serving a cocktail what's the trump family cocktail this week it is uh water with poisonous toxins in it you could have gone with red currents no we are all gonna have a psychotic episode together i will be the leader late theory can you overdose on red currants? Is that possibly what happened? Oh, yeah, that could be some sort of red currant. Late theory. All right, yeah, okay, we got Ribena.

That's not even the right kind of currant. But yeah, all right. I like you being a cult leader, Jess. I really like it. You guys have said many times I don't have the charisma for it. No, you've got the charisma. You've got the charisma inside and out. Where's it coming out of? it coming out of if you've got a do if you're a do inside and out it's out of do yeah you're do out of do yeah i understood all that

well yeah you were sprecking the francois uh dave you've normally booked a band yes you're never gonna believe this trump stomp i can't believe this is there a band called Yes, you're never going to believe this. Trump Stomp. I can't believe this. Is there a band called Trump Stomp? I obviously book these bands months and months, if not years in advance with this big act. We've actually got Fall Out Boy performing their fourth studio album,

Folly Adieu. Oh my God. They've got an album called Folly Adieu. Back to back. Wow. Wow. I'd never heard that term before. Now all of a sudden,

Fall Out Boy are calling their albums it can you believe it i cannot believe it uh i don't know if it was a massive hit album for them because i don't recognize any of the songs but anyway still well um there's only two members here oh easy day for days amazingly samely, same surname, different continents. Wow, cool. They must know each other, right? Do you think? If they don't already, let's introduce them.

They signed up within a day of each other. Exact same surname, not a super common surname. Cool. Well, Dave, you ready to bring them in? Yes, absolutely. Here we go. So basically, my job here is as a hype man and I hype up the new guests,

but Jess also hypes me up. Yes. If you're picturing it, these two people are going to be, I'm lifting up the velvet rope, welcoming him into the Triptych Club. Dave's on the stage. He's hyping up.

He's getting everyone who's already inside up to give a very warm welcome. Obviously that takes a lot out of Dave. So, Jess, give them a bit of positive feedback as we go. All right. Are we ready for the big two? Here we go. Don't use a surname because you can't.

Or do. Up to you. Folly, do. Go on. It's weird that we didn't get to that earlier. Firstly, from Forest Lake in Queensland, Australia, it's James Brennan. Oh, James Brennan, 10 out of 10. Yes, that's good.

And from Orleans in Ontario, Canada, it's Tommy Brennan. Oh, Tommy Brennan, 11 out of 10. Top that, James. James Cummins, still a perfect score, mate. Thank you to Tommy and James. Welcome in. Make yourselves at home and have a great time. Enjoy. Thank you to Tommy and James. Welcome in. Make yourselves at home and have a great time. Enjoy Folly Adieu.

Back to back. And a little poison drink. Geez, he didn't come in on a great week, but... There's other drinks in there. All the other drinks I've ever said are still on the menu. But yeah, okay, now there's some toxins in the water. Oh, my God. You two, always trying to bloody rein me me in so that brings us to the end of

the episode anything else we need to tell people boppa that they can find us at do go on pod on all social media do go on pod.com is our website and um anybody can suggest a topic as well so if you've spotted something out in the wild you you've seen a post about something, you know a story, and you think, hey, do go on, might like that. There's a link in the show notes. It's also on our website. You can go suggest a topic. And yes, nailed it.

Nailed the dismount. Absolutely perfect there, Jess. And all we've got left to say really is do all that stuff. But until next week, we'll say thank you so much and goodbye bye basically what we're saying is happy new year everyone happy new year 2022 huh how about it

how about let's do it what do you say we do a pod every week this year yeah ambitious change it up ambitious but okay i think that would be fantastic for people living uh living and listening to this in the future i mean it'd be hard to listen if not living. You'd be going like, why are they talking about it? What's this New Year's? We don't have that here in the future. Well, back in the past, we used to celebrate the end of the year with a party not called New Year's Eve.

Now that the end of the world's happened, you don't do that anymore. Yeah. But we used to. So, yeah, go watch a video. Yeah, surely. If you have those still. Surely there's a video of that. Yeah, go watch a video.

Just Google New Year's Eve. Actually, just Google fireworks. Oh, my God. Honestly. Do yourself a favour. Yeah, it'll blow your mind. So fun. And they go like, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

So good. Really cool stuff. So fun. Really cool stuff. So fun. Really cool stuff. I'm like, I bet you there'll be at least 10 fireworks tonight. And if there's more, I'll be surprised. But imagine. And there were like, I don't know, like 100?

There were so many. I lost count, actually, because they were just like, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And they're all going at the same time as well. So it's like i can't was that three or was that one that like does a big bang and then little bangs does that count as two i was wondering that too technically speaking but either way i think it cleared 10 easily yeah and did you notice that there were lots of different colors because i said you know i love light and that's one of the big things in fireworks you got the sound but i love

the light part it's probably my favorite bit and i fireworks. You've got the sound, but I love the light part. It's probably my favourite bit. And I love how they sort of go out sparkly white. Yes. But imagine if they could do them in different colours. And that night, there was red. Yep. There was green.

The list goes on. Yeah. Wow. It was absolutely wild. Was there a blue? I don't think there was a blue. No, probably not a blue, but I think there was a hot pink. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it was a red

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