Do Go On - 327 - Who is Anna Delvey?

Episode Date: January 26, 2022

On October 3, 2017 Anna Delvey was invited to meet her friend for lunch at Joan’s on Third in LA, when she arrived she was arrested. In this episode we find out what happened to the mysterious Anna Delvey.Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: dogoonpod.com or patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Stream our 300th episode with extra quiz (and 16 other episodes with bonus content): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/anna-delvey-who-true-story-netflix-b1946329.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WGFfdt13zwhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/fake-heiress-anna-sorokin-im-dumb-greedy-person/story?id=80278091#:~:text=Following%20an%20investigation%20into%20the,just%20deal%20with%20the%20consequences.%E2%80%9Dhttps://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/04/my-misadventure-with-the-magician-of-manhattanhttps://www.thecut.com/2018/05/how-anna-delvey-tricked-new-york.html Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amana, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.

Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Welcome to another episode of Dugo One. My name is Dave Warnocky, and as always, I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins.

Hello. Hey, Dave, how good is it to be alive? So, so good. I often start a sentence, not knowing where it's going to go. That one ended up really positive. Matt Stewart, the king of small talk. That's how you open all your conversations. How good does it to be alive?

Honestly, pretty good. It is a bit odd when he does that at cafes, though. like just ordering your takeaway coffee. Hey, hey, go, he goes, how good is it to be alive? And they go, yeah, yeah, what can I get for you? Are you going to order anything? Oh, no. No, no.

Did you just survive something or? No, no, no, no. Not only am I excited about life, but I'm also excited about the upcoming Melbourne International Comedy Festival. It's sort of like Christmas time. You know, Christmas time is also like Christmas time, but this is like second Christmas time. Yeah, and it goes for longer.

Yes. Which I love. I love that about it too. It has a real sort of festival feel about it, I think. Yeah, it has a certain... Oh, how do you say? How do you say? I don't know.

Genesequah. Yes, yes, yes. It does have a jenisequois about it. I can't quite put my finger on it, but some sort of phrase like that might help describe it. Yeah, yeah. And we're going to be there. aren't we, Jess?

We are and I'm very excited. Are we Jess? Yes, we are. Because we are going to be doing something different and fun. And honestly, I'm excited about it because it's a little less work for Matt and I. Because we're going to be doing a live quiz show extravaganza with Dave hosting. Matt and I are going to be team captains. And we're going to have like a bunch of guests.

It's going to be so much fun. I'm so excited about it. Dave said he's going to get the biggest guests who were in the country at the time. Last week I promised Jerry Seinfeld. Unfortunately, I have looked at his diary. He will not be in Melbourne. But I'm really fingers crossed for Billy Connolly, Dawn French, on the same show. Yes, that would be ideal.

So you guys can fight it out amongst yourselves. I think I heard that Carl Barron's doing the festival this year. I'm sure he would love a bit of exposure. We love to help the little guy. So that'll be pretty cool to help out some little guys and have some fun along the way. So this is going to be on Monday nights through the festival at the Town Hall.

We finally made it to the big time. The Melbourne Town Hall, hey? It's basically our Madison Square Garden. Honestly, if you can't beat City Hall, you join the Town Hall. That's right. That's what we've done. And so it's April 4, April 11, April 18.

So three shows, 9 o'clock on a Monday night. And wow, it's going to be good times. And yeah, it's basically, it's going to be much like a do-go-on episode, where Dave's choosing all the questions from one topic. It's basically telling the story like a normal do-go-on episode, only with questions along the way. So it's a real mish-mash of everything that's good about the world.

Yes. Yes. You get your dose of us, your dose of history, your dose of comedy, and your dose of life. I'm so excited about this show that I'm actually skipping my own show to be there. I'm doing a show with Alastair Trumbly Virtual, who's been a guest on this show.

He's told us about clits. He's told us about peonies. Peanies as well. We're doing a stand-up show called honk, honk, hubba-hubber, ringer ding ding. That's so good. If you want the background story to that name, that were the three options we were thinking about. And Andy Matthews said, why not just put them all together? Yeah, he's absolutely right.

God, he's so good that, Andy. He's so good. He's a peek behind the magic. Yeah, so we're doing the second. half of the festival, so from the 11th of April till the 23rd. Monday to Saturday, but I will not be there on Monday. So if you want to see Alistair and Angus Gordon playing the role of me, then go on the Mondays.

But don't go to the Mondays, then you can't come to the quiz show. That's how you skip Matt completely. I know one person who was already, one listener who's already bought tickets to a Monday. He's like, wait, how are you going to do both shows when we announced? Anyway, so yeah, all the ticket links will be in the show notes. It'd be great to see you there. You know how when you go to the theatre sometimes and there'll be a little announcement saying that like

the role of Simba will today be played by and they like tell the understudy? Are you going to have that on Mondays? I think you should. I think, yeah, I think we should. For tonight's performance of... Hong Kong, Carbaba Riga ding ding ding. The role of Matt Stewart will be played by Angus Gordon.

It says that in the show description on the website. That's so good. That just showed me. But usually at the theatre, you're disappointed when you go there and Kate Blanchett's called in sick. But will people be excited that here? I think so. Woo! Love that God.

Yeah. One raw comedy winner to another. I had to get someone who was at least of the same quality. And I actually got someone who's much better. So that's good. So, yeah, you'd actually do yourself a favourite good on that Monday. But really, no. Come to our show on the Monday.

come to my show on the Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday or Saturday. You can come to our show every week because it's a different topic every week with different guests. And also, if you're a Patreon or do go on supporter, check the Patreon or our Facebook group because there is a cheeky 20% discount for you guys. Oh, yeah. Awesome. Hey, should we get on with the show, Jess? I'd love you to explain to new listeners how this show works.

Well, how this show works is one of the three of us goes away. Research is a topic usually suggested by a listener. listener or two or three. And we researched that topic. We bring it back to the other two. We present it like a school report. And the other two listen politely, except for the times when they're interrupting rudely.

And we usually get up. Did you just moo? Yeah, interrupting cow. Is that why? I guess so. That's a bit of fun. Moo. Or are you just very tired again?

I'm very tired, yes. Sorry, but Jesse, you were really close to explain. the final bit, which is... We always get onto the topic with a question. It is my week to do the report this week. And so I have a question for you. Are you ready to hear that question?

I'm ready to hear it. Okay. Okay. The question is, the upcoming Netflix series Inventing Anna is based on who? Anna Kendrick. Anna Kornikova. No.

Anna Mirz. You know so many Annas. I can't think of one. Anna. Anna Kosovat. Anna. Anastasia. Whoa, whoa, yeah.

Princess Anna? Is there a princess? No, Princess Anne, isn't it? Yeah. So is it, it's obviously an inventor? No, it's not an inventor. Oh, okay. It's a robot.

Someone invented Anna? Yeah, somebody. Anaphylaxis, is that anything? Are we getting warmer? It's no, you're getting further and further away with that guess of anaphylaxis. It is, or it's Anna, someone. Yeah. What about the name Anna Delvey?

Does that mean anything to you? No, it doesn't mean anything to me. No, Anna Delvey. Perfect, because the less you know, the more entertaining this report will be for you. Fantastic. So on October 3, 2017, 29-year-old Rachel Williams, a photo editor for Vanity Fair, a role she described as her dream job, arranges a lunch date with an old friend, Anna. Anna, who at the time was staying at Passages, Malibu, an addiction treatment facility,

leaves the facility to go meet with her friend. Anna Diction, that was going to be one of my guests. Fuske, you go. But what Anna doesn't know is that this lunch was never going to happen. The lunch plans were in fact a way to lure her out of the facility as part of a sting operation by police officers and the district attorney's office. Oh, no. Is her friend snitched on her?

Well, stitched her up. Has stitched her up a little bit. She a knack. What an absolute nudge. Am I using that right? Or does knock me in the cop? No, you're knocking to the cops. Yeah, you're gnarc to the cops.

I don't even know what it means because I would never do it. But Dave, could you breathe that marijuana smoke into this microphone? I mean, this, my shirt. I think I know how this works. You are literally holding a microphone. Ah, the decoy. You're going to admit to any crimes on this podcast, accidentally? You want him to breathe marijuana smoke into a microphone.

Yeah, Jess, it's not really a microphone. It's actually a drug detection device. Sucker. You got him. Got him. He got Dave, that classic pot head. I'm a doobie brother. So, yeah, that was a sting operation.

Anna was arrested. Who is this person? Well, Anna Delvey first appeared in New York City when she traveled there to attend New York Fashion Week as part of her role as an intern for the first. French fashion magazine Purple. She loved New York and said she found it easier to make friends there, so she relocated permanently, transferring to Purple's New York office.

Sometime later, she quit her role at Purple, but she didn't really need the job anyway. Anna Delvey was the daughter of wealthy German parents and was set to receive access to her generous trust fund when she turned 25. She's like 24 at this point. So she turned her attention to her passion project, the Anna Delvey Foundation. Very audacious naming it after yourself, I think. I am of the opinion that there are too many foundations now. Really?

I feel like every celebrity's got their own one. Surely you just pitch in and help one that already exists. Oh, yeah. I guess the idea is that it's a tax write-off. You're absolutely right. But the thing they tell themselves is that, oh, I'm using my name for good. You know, I do some ads and stuff and I'm using my name maybe for bad. Well, I'm, you know, evening out.

the ledge you're here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's all about balance. Because when I say they're using their name for bad on those ads, they're advertising death machines. Yeah. Gillotine. But on the flip side, they're providing bottled water for the upper middle class. So, who need it. And top shelf tequila. Yeah. So her goal was to obtain a property in Manhattan on Park Avenue South, a beautiful 19th century building known as the church. Mission's house. There, Anna, would create a multi-level dynamic visual art center

dedicated to contemporary art. Okay, well, it sounds like the generous trust fund is very generous. Holy shit. Well, yeah, the foundation's going to include a night lounge. I don't know what a night lounge is, but it sounds cool, a bar, art galleries, studio space, restaurants, and a member's only club. Pretty cool. That sounds pretty fancy. Very exclusive. It sounds a little bit like our Triptitch Club. Yeah, that's exactly what it is, yeah. We'll have a night lounge. Yeah, and a daybed. Oh, I love a daybed. Right in the, the back left is the night lounge. Yeah. Very cool place to me. There was an article written for part by Jessica Pressler. This article kind of blew this entire

story up, and it's a really great article. So I'll reference Jessica Presler's writing quite a bit throughout this, but she writes, some people raise their eyebrows at the grandiosity of this plan, grandiosity, but to, To others, it made sense in a New York kind of way. The building's owner, developer A.B. Rosen, was no stranger to the private club genre. A few years earlier, he'd bought a Midtown building and opened the core club. So I looked up the core club, and this is what it's written on their website under the vision tab. So just to give you an idea of what, like, an exclusive kind of members-only club is.

So it says, core is a philosophy, a culture. a sensibility, an ethos, a playground for the sight guys, it gets worse. It is a gravitational force that pulls together global visionaries who are culturally curious and passionately engaged in the world. We think obsessively about experiential architecture, managing seamlessness, and creating conditions for discovery and transformation. Where do I sign up? This sounds like me.

Any questions? It's nice and clear, isn't it? It sounds like they're describing my mind. A zeitgeist playground, yeah. Yeah. Right up top. I always thought about you, actually, a playground for the zeitgeist. I said, what, Jess, tell us what is Matt Stewart actually like?

And I'll say, I'll tell you what he's like, I'll tell you. He's a playground for the zeitgeist. Yeah, the zeitgeist is on the seesaw up there in his head. What about Dave Warnocken? I says, oh, he's a gravitational force. that pulls together global visionaries who are culturally curious. It just means nothing, doesn't it? Yeah, it means nothing.

And all it is is that you remember and you get to go and like dine at the restaurant there or like, you know what I mean? Like it's kind of, it's just an exclusive sort of bullshitty, expensive thing for rich people. It sounds like something that would almost certainly fail as well. Right. That's an interesting take. Like the people that are like, you could get this card. You pay $50 and you remember.

Okay. What do you get? Well, you get to be a member. Yeah. Yeah. You can recruit other members. And other people will be impressed that you're a member. So, and a lot of this, like, it feels very much, it's just name dropping constantly.

And I have no idea who any of these names are. But even in articles written about it, it's just dropping names the whole time. You're like, is this good? I don't know. So Jessica Presler continues. Says with the help of... Jessica Presler is such a good name, by the way. Jessica Presler, it's good, isn't it?

Jess Pressler, not as good. She needs to be a Jessica. Yes, Presler, bad. But Jess Press is pretty good. Jess Press. Sounds a bit like you've branded your own Toasty Machine or something. Yeah, it's the Jess Press. For just three easy installments of 1995.

So with the help of Calatrava Executive Michael Yaffe, a former employee of Rosen's RFR realty firm, Anna soon began meeting with big names in the food and beverage world to discuss possibilities in the space. The Colonel? The big dog. Grimus. One was Richie Notar, one of the founders of Nobu, who did a walkthrough of the building

with Anna as she described her vision, which included three restaurants, a juice bar and a German bakery. Apparently, her family was prominent in Germany, Notar said, and funding this big project for her. No, she's got that big trust fund. I'm excited about this, Jess. I want to get involved. You said this was 2017.

Is it too late to put in some startup? Yeah, capital. You've got to get in at the grand level, four years late. Five years late. I love it when, I don't know how long ago it was, but it's probably been around forever, but describing buildings and rooms as space. What a magnificent space. Yeah.

That's like, that's nothing. Space. Oh, beautiful space. A beautiful space. Beautiful space. Space. I mean, yeah. I love the nothingness in here.

Fantastic. Oh, what a beautiful void. I wish you'd study drama because they love nothing better than just walking through the space. Just walking. Using the space. Explore the space. Feel the space. Yeah.

Now roll around on the floor in the space. The first drama. teachers were astronauts, and they didn't have the vocab to really express what they're trying to talk about. You see space and be a rocket? Moonwalk, one small step. I don't know, no gravity. Piss in a bag, like Buzz Aldrin. So a project of this size is going to require considerable funds,

even on top of Anna's obvious wealth and funding from her parents. So she needed about 25 million. On top of the 25 million, she already had. After initially looking for private investors, she then turned on the idea, mainly because she didn't want anyone telling her what to do. If we were bringing in investors, they'd say, oh, she's 25, she doesn't know what she's doing.

Anna explained later. I wanted to build the first one myself. So from Pressor again, to help secure a loan, one of Anna's finance friends had told her to get in touch with Joel Cohen, best known as a prosecutor of Jordan Belford, aka the Wolf of Wall Street. Cohen was now working at Gibson Dunn,

a large firm known for its real estate practice. He put her in touch with Andy Lance, a partner who happened to have the exact kind of expertise that Anna was looking for. So after filling out Gibson Dunn's new client intake form, which included checking boxes that confirmed the client had the resources to pay and would not embarrass the firm, Lance put Anna in touch with several large financial institutions.

Nearly got there. I nearly got there. I don't know why that was so fun. I was like if that word was like a train, it was going real fast and you fell off. And you rolled down the embankment. I mean, it's fun to be on the other side of this for once. It's good to say.

Every other episode, that's me, a dozen. thousand times. Before this episode, you couldn't think of the word example. That's a tricky word. And you know, what's that shovel you dig food with? Example. Several large financial institutions. Nailed it. Nailed it.

Also, love that in this world, you literally just have to tick a box that says, yeah, yeah, I went to embarrass you. Yeah, yeah, I've got the money. You're going to look into that at all? No, no, no, no, you've ticked the box. That's fine. Tick, tick, tick. All good.

No worries here. I'm wondering at this point, you know, she didn't want to get investors in because they were going to be like, you don't know what you're doing. I'm wondering, is that because she doesn't know what she's doing? At this point, I just don't know where this story is going. Yeah. I'm already forgetting where it started. Who was she?

Was she the narc or the other one? No, she was in rehab and then went to go to lunch with a mate and then got arrested. Right, okay. And it's very much on purpose that you don't know where this is going. Okay. So just let the story. Wash over you.

Yeah. Have some trust in me. Everything will fall into place. Yes, actually, I don't have any trust and I've just gone ahead and Googled it. And wow. What a story. God damn it, Dave. I'll take it from here.

Just reading a Wikipedia article. So the tricky part for Anna was that the majority of her assets were located outside of the US. some of which we're in a trust with swish. Fuck. Pretty swish. A swish bank over. A swish, Swiss bank.

So I'm... Marble floors, big pylons, real swish bank. I'm recording from home because my partner has COVID and I'm a close contact. And I'm thinking more and more that maybe I'm more than a close contact. One of the symptoms is not being able to. pronounce Swiss. All right, what's this country here? I'm pointing to it.

Switzerland? Oh, no. I'm so sorry. You are positive. It begins. That's the new rat test. Yeah. Oh no, I did that thing, ATM machine.

Rat test, yeah. Rat tests. The people doing that? Yeah, some people are. And honestly, there's people. People will be yelling at their iPods right now. They can fuck off. By the way, a few people have been pointing out that people don't listen to iPods anymore.

Oh, my God. And I don't know where, what fancy town you live in, but where I'm from, we've all got iPods. What are you listening to Music on then? Yeah, I don't know. I think they're from overseas or something. They've got some, maybe the iPod 2 or something. I don't know. I've got the iPod classic, 128 gigs.

Love it. Whoa. Nothing will ever replace this. I've only got the shuffle. This is the pinnacle. The listener podcast is brutal. I want to listen to a series, but it's jumping around all over the place. If you live in a world where.

people don't use iPods anymore. Like, what are you giving to kids to listen to me? Are you a kid at an iPhone? Like an 8-year-old? What are they an iPhone for? Yeah, how could you listen to music on a phone? Yeah, it's a phone. All right.

Yeah. My phone is plugged into the wall like everyone else's. Yeah. It must be a joke. They must be joking. Those people say nobody's listening to iPods. They must be joking. I don't fully get the joke, but it must be a joke.

I'm sure it's very funny. It makes them sound so old. Now, are you talking about the things I say? Somehow that flipped around on me. No, it didn't. Because I agree. I don't know why I say it either. I just started saying an old technology.

I don't know why. But anyway. I'm not sure how you've gotten defensive when I was being 100% on your side then. 100%. to my world. This is what it's like living in the Zitegast playground.

It's a nightmare. Very paranoid. It's awful. I haven't slept in weeks. Is that about me? Anyway, please do go on. She's got Swiss money. They're in Swiss bank accounts.

At Ashch. Ashets. Ashets. Asch are in Swiss bank accounts. Oh, she related to Sean? No, she's German. He's played Germans. I'm sure with that accent. Yes.

I'm German born. Yes. I'm from Frankfurt. Ish bin Einduilina. I watched the film of his the other day that I only ever heard people shit on. And I was like, I think it seems like a fun idea. It's called League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Oh, yeah, yeah. And I've just, people have shat on it so much and my expectation was so low. And I watched it, I'm like, this is all right. isn't it? It's fine. It's a lot of silliness still, but it's fine.

I was almost disappointed it wasn't that bad. But, you know, it's the opposite of having your expectations set too high. They'll set too low. Then I'm like, oh, this is fine. It was disappointingly okay. And had Cleaver Green in it as one of the main guys. Anyway, Jess, please. I'm so sorry, please do go on.

So, yeah, she's got a lot of her assets with the multinational. investment bank UBS. And so the banker that she was sort of dealing with. An awful thing to deal with UBS. What's it mean again? Arritable bowel syndrome. I thought you'd at least find a new word for you, but no. Arritable.

Oh, no. I didn't get a lot of sleep last night. I'll tell. Look, I'm going to come quick. claim of the audience here. Really? Yeah. You'd never know.

And what? Saying silly things is a symptom of that, is it? You look ridiculous for implying that. You fuck. You fuck. So the banker at City National Bank asked to see the UBS statements, and he received a list of figures from a man named Peter W. Henick.

Hennech? Anyway, and he wrote, please use these few projections from now on. I'll send the physical statements on Monday. Those physical statements never arrived, but no worries. She's good for it. I've seen the figure $28 million written on a post-it note. I'm happy. Should be fine.

Yeah, it should be fine. And she's saying like, you know, it shouldn't be a problem because they're providing documents saying that she owns assets to the value of around 60 million euros. So like she's very wealthy. So they're like, oh, yeah, okay, this is an easy, you know, no real risk here. But a business such as this was going to require buzz and for cool people to want to attend. It's all well and good to start up an exclusive club, but you've got to like make the connections. Luckily, Anna was already a very well-connected woman.

She was described as a woman about town. She was often in attendance at some of the coolest, most exclusive events in New York City. Rachel Williams, who I mentioned at the very start of the report, she writes, she was a stranger to me and yet not unknown. I'd seen her on Instagram, smiling at events, drinking at parties, oftentimes alongside my own friends and acquaintances. Rachel notes as well that she'd seen that Anna had 40,000 followers on Instagram, which we all know is the sign of a person's value.

She's like, ooh, she has 40,000 followers. I want to know her. Rachel recalls that as a visiting German citizen, she'd explained. Anna didn't have a full-time residence. She was living at the standard at a hotel. I think the basic room started about 300 a night when I looked online. So it's a pretty nice hotel. The article Jessica Pressler writes is largely based around an interview she did

with a person named Neff, who was working as a concierge at 11 Howard, which is another hotel Anna was staying at later on. She sort of bounced between a few different hotels over a few. years. The article paints a picture of what Anna was like at this time. So she writes, the way Anna spent money, it was like she couldn't get rid of it fast enough. Her room was overflowing with shopping bags and in between meetings she'd invite Neff to foot massages, cryotherapy, manicures. One day she brought Neff to a session with a personal trainer slash life coach that she'd found online, a svelte, ageless Oprah-esque figure who worked

with celebrities like Dakota Johnson. Afterwards, Anna bought a package of sessions. It was, I'm not lying, $4,500, says Neff, and Anna paid cash. What was it? A packet of what? A package of sessions with this personal trainer slash life coach. Oh, got your session. Spent $4.5 grand on. I've got no idea how much personal trainers cost for reasons unknown.

I feel like less than that. Yeah, but I still thought when he said, I kid you not, I thought he was going to say $45,000. Well, we don't know how many that package of sessions is. Yeah, that's true. It could be $4,500. sessions. Then it's really cheap. That's an absolute bargain. Yeah, that's why it's like, I kid you not. This woman only charges a dollar a session. It's amazing. I'm Googling Dakota Johnson as well.

Who's one of the name drops here? She's 50 shades of grey. Oh, okay. Does not, face doesn't ring a bell. Anything else? She was on that architectural digest that people got confused by. Okay. You love architectural digest. Oh, she was in the social network. I've seen that. One time mentioned Hillary Duff's apartment, and Dave was like,

ah, yes, from Architectural Digest, I've seen it too. That's how I keep up with the ZiteGhost. Holy shit, her parents are Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith. Yeah, and her boyfriend's Chris Martin from Coldplay. Holy shit, that's a power quadruple. What do you think her favourite Coldplay song is? I don't know, but mine's a scientist. Melanie Griffith is from Raw, right?

That movie, is she the one who was in? It's all connecting. That very brief reference to Dakota Johnson links back with a few quick steps where episode about the film Raw. Hotel staff fought over who got to deliver packages to Anna or who would help her with any particular request she had because she was an extremely generous tipper. She handed out $100 bills like they were nothing.

She was always dressed in designer clothes, opted for the most expensive beauty treatments and regularly spent $400 on eyelash extensions. It's like she wouldn't just, you know, go and have a beauty treatment done. It had to be by like the coolest, you know, most exclusive person who offered that service. And it had to be the most expensive, you know, option available. Right.

Yeah. It's an interesting way to go about it. So not the best, but the most expensive. Yeah. Which she just equates the two things, maybe. Yeah. Yeah, she just sorts price high to low and just goes with whatever the top result. Don't they say, is that still a rule?

Like you're a sucker if you buy the most expensive. wine on a menu because they put them there just for the suckers. The best one's the second most expensive wine. I think that's like an old life hack that I've never had to put in a practice. I'm never considering buying one of the most expensive bottles of wine. I may have made that. I'm always like, just a glass of your house red, it'd be fine, thanks. Maybe just a half glass.

Maybe just a glass and two straws. Can we get a glass to the table? We B.Y.O. Silly straws. She was at all the best parties, said marketing director Tommy Saleh, who met her in 2013 at Le Barron in Paris during Fashion Week. Oh, that means the Baron. Yeah. Sorry, just her non-French speakers. And Paris means Paris.

Yes. It was unclear where exactly Anna came from. She told people she was from Cologne, but her German wasn't very good. Or what the source of her wealth was. was. Oh shit. She's not really German. And why pick a city as well?

I mean, Cologne's probably a good choice because it's not one of the biggest ones, but it's still a pretty big city. Yeah. But that is, that's funny. Why pick a country where you don't speak the language? Yeah, that's, yeah, surely you go, I'm from a small village in England or something. Yeah. Canadian from the Bahamas or something like that.

Yeah, I don't know. Why, yeah, why don't you have an English accent then? Oh, traveled around a lot of the kid. Yeah, she's got, she's got, she's, He's got an accent that's sort of hard to pin down. Because it's fake? It's all over the shop. Jess, if you were here last week, you would have heard me failing to pin down an accent a few times.

Oh, Matt did, he did Irish, he did Cockney, he did another English voice. None of them sounded. None of them were in the ballpark. You should hear this guy's Bob Geldof, it is, to die for. Oh, fucking. an A. Fucking an A. Uh, fucking an A.

Give me your fucking money. That's Kermit. That's Kermit the frog. That is Kermit begging for money. That is Kermit mugging someone in a It's not easy being Emerald Green. That's actually a pretty good Kermit, but it's a terrible Bob Gelt.

But a pretty good Kermit. Yeah, well. That was after you described, you were like, oh, a lot of parodies of Bob Gildoff came after the. that. I guess because he's easy to parody. Did I say that? Whoops.

Oh my God. Anyway, Jess, that's a quick recap of what you missed last week. Thank you. Now I don't have to listen. So anyway, yeah, we're saying that like it's unclear where exactly she's from and what the source of her wealth was from. People heard different stories, some that like our dad was a very wealthy German in some sort of business or that somebody said he was really high up.

up in like solar, solar power. Oh, yeah. But that was a bit unsure. Obviously, the higher up you are, the closer you are to the sun. So it's quite convenient. Yeah, he was Icarus. Yeah, it didn't end well. It's not that unusual because there's so many trust fund kids running around.

Everyone is your best friend and you don't know a thing about anyone. So it didn't really ring in any alarm bells for people that they didn't really know a lot about her background. In 2015, Anna Met Art Collector Michael Zufu Huang, a dinner party. And at the time, he was a student at University of Pennsylvania and he had dreams of opening a private art museum. So he mentioned he was planning on attending the Venice Biennale, which is a contemporary visual art exhibition. And Anna proposed, she'd go as well. They both had dreams of opening art spaces. They could learn a lot from the exhibition and the foundation behind it.

So yeah, he agreed. And they're like, yeah, cool, let's go. So she asked Michael to book her plane ticket in hotel on his credit card and assured him that she'd pay him back with a wire transfer. And while they were there in Venice, Michael noticed that Anna paid for everything in cash, and after they returned from the trip, she forgot to pay him back. Given it was only a few thousand dollars. Oh, what's a few thousand? Yeah, and he was also rather wealthy. He brushed it off to Anna being forgetful, and he himself forgot about it after a while.

Jessica Presler writes, when you're super rich, you can be forgetful in this way, which is maybe why no one thought much of the instances in which Anna did things that seemed odd for a wealthy person, calling a friend to have her put a taxi from the airport on her credit card or asking to sleep on someone's couch or moving into someone's apartment with the agreement to pay rent and then not doing it. Maybe she had so much money she just lost track of it. But the following January in 2016, Anna invited Michael to her birthday party at Siddell's restaurant in Soho. She hired a PR firm to put the party together,

and Michael said it was filled with a lot of very cool, very successful people. A few days after the party, though, Michael got a message from the restaurant. They'd seen pictures on Instagram of Michael and Anna together at the party, and they were asking him if they had her contact details because she hadn't paid the bill. This and the money she owed Michael already were the puzzle pieces that fit together for Michael, and he finally figured it out.

He said, then I realized, oh my God, she is not legit. Yeah, that's interesting. Like, so when she's been going around buying all the most expensive things, she has been paying for them sometimes because he's using cash? Yeah, so she's buying like, if she's shopping in a shop, you know, you can't leave a shop without paying for stuff. No, no, you just say, hey, I'll why you. A wire transfer you.

Chanel perfume. Yeah, I know a few things. What I love about this echelon of society that seems like that the biggest crime, it's not really lying. and it doesn't matter what you do. The only crime is, hang on, she doesn't have lots of money. Yeah, that's right. Hang on. That's it.

Yeah, I don't mind her not paying me. That's fine. As long as she has the money to... Exactly. If she could pay me, that's fine. Yeah, that's so weird. Yeah, that's right. That is very strange. Wait, you tell me she might be poor?

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Lock her up. I was at a party with a poor person. Oh my God. I touched her on the shoulder as I brushed past to the punch bowl. Am I poor now, too? I think I caught poor. See, I like that realization as well that he's like,

I just realized, oh my God, she is not legit. And legit, she was not. Anna Delby was in fact Anna Sorokin, or Sorokin born in Moscow in 1991. Her father was not a billionaire. He was a truck driver. Her mother owned a small convenience store. Why not just say Russian?

Yeah. You could be, I don't understand. Yeah, there's lots of wealth. the oligarchy types? Well, the family relocated to Germany in 2007 when she was 16, and she was described later as a quiet girl who struggled to pick up the German language. So yeah, say you're Russian, because you are. Just say you're Russian.

After I graduated high school, she relocated to London and then Paris, where she started her internship with Purple. And it was around this time that she started using the name Anna Delvey, and her parents have no idea where she came up with that name. like there's no sort of connection anywhere. It's just a name that she came up with. So where did she get the money that she was spending on clothes, eyelashes, personal trainers, etc? Well, when I said she changed her mind about getting private investors involved, really it seems like no one at all was interested. So Anna created fake bank statements showing that she had access to about 60 million euros stored in

Swiss bank accounts. And in November 2016, submitted these as part of a loan application for 22, million dollars to a bank. Most accounts say it was city national bank. Others say it was a different one. There's two banks involved here. So I'm just going to say like first bank and second bank, because sources say the opposite way around and I didn't want to fuck it up. So the first bank needed Anna to pay $100,000 to cover legal fees and for them to do their due diligence in investigating and validating her assets. So to get that $100,000, she went to another bank. I love where this is going. paying off a credit card with another credit card.

Yeah. That's a good business. But paying off a bank with another bank. Yeah. So she gets a loan for 100 grand. And she was like, I can obviously pay that back so easily and quickly. I'm incredibly wealthy in Europe. I have access to all these assets.

It's just they're tied up in Swiss bank accounts and overseas. So if I could, but I need this kind of now. So if I could just have $100,000, I'll pay that back to you very quickly. It's just you're helping me out. And they're like, well, that makes sense. Sure. So the original bank became suspicious when they noticed some discrepancies in her paperwork, like how she said she was German, but her passport said she was born in Russia.

When questions were asked, Anna withdrew her loan application. Once they start to dig, she's like, well, forget about it then. Yeah, fine. Hey, if you don't trust me, I don't want to do business with you. Yeah, I don't even want $22 million, so forget about it. That's nothing to me. Whatever. Yeah, why didn't I just say I was Russian?

I don't know. But I'm sticking with it now. So she withdraws her loan application, meaning the bank returned some of the funds to her, minus the fees they'd already taken. And so they gave her back about $55,000. There are records of her depositing dodgy checks in a few different banks and withdrawing the cash before the bank realizes the check were no good. That check system.

What a wild time. Yeah. This is 2017. It says there's money here on this piece of paper. So give me. Can I have it? Thank you. So that explains why she always had cash and often asked friends to

book cabs, flights, hotels for her on their credit cards. She didn't have a legit credit card. But she had, what, $55,000 in cash that she just slowly ate away at? You had a lot of cash. It doesn't sound like slowly. Yeah. And bad checks. Yeah.

Things started to fall apart in early 2017. In April, she deposited $160,000 worth of fraudulent checks into a city bank account, of which she was able to retrieve 70 in usable fund. So she's got $70,000. in cash. The hotel she was living at the time, 11 Howard, had realized there was no valid credit card stored on her account, and she'd accrued a $30,000 bill because she's like dining at the restaurant in the hotel, which is like a very fancy restaurant and she's just charging it back to her room and she's staying in like, you know, a pretty mid-level, like a good

room at a nice hotel. So she's racking up quite a bill, $30,000. So with the 70 grand that she'd just withdrawn, she paid a portion of the bill to 11 Howard, but seeing as she's still refused to provide a credit card, the hotel evicted her. The next month, she somehow managed to convince Charter Flight Booking Service Blade to allow her to book a return flight to Omaha, Nebraska, without paying up front. The fee, $35,000. She's a good talker, obviously. Yeah, it's very, like, she's quite charming and she plays the part well, and she plays it very cool.

In another life, she could have been a cult leader. Big time, yeah. And, you know, like, she's still young. I'm sure this time. So she sent them a forged wire transfer confirmation slip, which brought her a little bit more time. She met the company CEO, Rob Wisenthal, at a party, and made a good impression on him,

and she was believed that she was a safe lending risk. So they didn't really chase her too hard about it. I think she kind of told them that it was like just, you know, issues with the bank and the wire transfer taking longer than normal. And so they're like, okay. But little did she know. that a few months later, when she hadn't paid her bill, Wisenthal, would report her to police,

who were already very much aware of Miss Anna Delphi. But for now, she's living it up, having a great time. She obviously wanted to get to Omaha, Nebraska, like most of us do. I was also sitting in 35 grand to get up. I mean, if you're going to, I mean, is she at the point, like, whatever I do, it's free, I may as well get my own plane. Surely she could have talked someone into buying her a plane ticket easier than convincing someone to charter a flight. But I guess this was just as easy because she was so connected because she was inside this weird world of Uber rich people at the parties and all those sort of things.

She was going to an event hosted by Warren Buffett or something. So, you know, needing to kind of look the part, I think, as well. And it was also, I think, very much about like the social media presence to you sort of building that sort of story. around this character as well. So Omaha, Nebraska. Is that where the cheeseheads are from? I think in the right place. I know the cheese heads.

I think that's where Bright Eyes or Con O'Burst is from. Right, there you go. I believe. There's one band. There's one band. I think that their whole scene, Saddle Creek and all that. Anyway, do you go on? She's living it up.

She's having a great time. In mid-May, she suggested to her friend Rachel Williams that they take a trip together. Anna needed to leave the country to reset her visa. And Rachel writes, Anna suggested Marrakesh. She picked a five-star luxury resort, ranked amongst the best in the world, and knowing that her selection was cost-prohibitive for my budget, she nonchalantly offered to cover my flights, the hotel.

She reserved a $7,000 a night private villa. Oh, how much? $7,000 a night. Oh, that sounds reasonable. It had like an interior courtyard, three bedrooms, a pool. It's got a courtyard. Oh, well, that's the price. That's half the price, right?

A lot of the price will be in that. Get your own core. And the pool, that'll knock it up a couple of bucks. Yeah, a couple of G's. Cheeseheads are Green Bay, Wisconsin, sorry, like one of the biggest NFL football teams. Whereas Nebraska, Omaha, looks like they've got a bull. They're the Mavericks.

So you can stop yelling at your iPod, too, so I'm updating it. I named the band because I assumed the cheeseheads was a band. I didn't even know what you're talking about. Fantastic. The cheeseheads. Oh man, and cheese heads raw. No, they look like the fans, I've seen on TV or something, they wear like hats that look like blocks of cheese.

Yeah, I think I've seen that. Well, that makes sense. Sorry, she's in Morocco, she's seven grand a night. So she's booking this fancy place and Rachel says, do you do a seemingly minor snafu. I'd put the plane tickets on my American Express card with Anna promising to reimburse me promptly. Oh, no.

Since I did this all the time for work, I didn't give it a second thought. It's like having a pyramid scheme. for a best friend. Along with Rachel, Anna invited the personal trainer and a photographer who Anna asked to come along to film their trip as a documentary about the creation of her art foundation. She was sort of saying like,

well, I will be making a documentary about the art foundation. So it would be nice to sort of get used to somebody sort of following us around with the camera. And also it would just be so nice to have like a video of the trip. So they've just got a photographer with them. While out shopping one day on the trip, Anna's debit card was declined.

And Rachel asked Anna if she had informed the bank that she was going to be traveling. And Anna said no. And Rachel's like, well, yeah, that'll be why your bank, like your card is declined. So Rachel paid, assured that she would be reimbursed the following week. Rachel's tab continued to grow as dinners and shopping all fell to her to be paid. She can just be like, Anna can just be like, oh, my card, you know, can't get onto the bank. I'll transfer you, I'll reimburse you, yeah. So by their third day on the trip, staff at the resort,

approached Anna. It seemed a valid credit card was not stored on the account. As per usual, Anna bought time, claiming it was an issue with the bank and that she would contact them. And the next day, again, the staff inquired about the card. And again, Anna brushed them off. But they weren't giving up this time. So two men went with them back to their villa and waited as Anna made phone calls. The following morning, Rachel wrote has this whole big article in Vanity Fair, which details her side a lot. And she sort of talks about, she, the the following morning, she woke up to a message from the personal trainer who'd been sick for a couple of days. She had food poisoning quite early in the trip, unfortunately, and she'd been in bed

sick. And she's sort of saying, like, I need to go home. Can you help me, like, arrange flights home? I've got to go. So Rachel does that. And she called the front desk to ask them for a car to the airport. And she's sort of like, in her riding, has a bit of a back and forth with the hotel stuff. She's like, no, we're not all leaving. Just like one of us is sick and has to, make a flight. The rest of us are staying. She has to assure them that they're not all trying to do a runner essentially. Whoa. Yeah. So they, yeah, they send a car, the personal trainer gets out. Rachel, the photographer and Anna, are stuck. And Rachel writes, the men insisted that a functioning card was needed for a block on the reservations balance only,

not to be charged for the final bill, which could be settled later. You know how like, you go to a hotel and they take your credit card and sort of like, they don't, they don't, they don't charge it. Yeah, but they like, they're 50 bucks or 100 bucks on there. Well, they put like a holding fee or something on that. Exactly, yeah. And then once you check out, it's refunded to you. It's, so they were sort of saying it's just that. So first Anna and then the men pressured me to put my credit card for the block while Anna sort of the situation with her bank. I was stuck. I had exactly $410 and $3 in my checking account. I had no alternate transportation from the hotel. I wanted to go home. And most importantly, I was told that

my card would not be charged. So Rachel's cards pre-authorised, the resort staff explained the amount is refunded at the end of the state, like we were just saying. So Rachel left Marrakesh the next day to go somewhere else from work. I think she said she went on to Paris for work. And Anna texted her saying she would transfer her $70,000 next week just to make sure everything is covered. Meaning Anna had intended for Rachel's credit card to be charged for the entire bill, which came out to be about $62,000, which was more than Rachel made in a year. Oh my God. Oh.

That's not very nice. This feels like when she was ripping off people who didn't even notice it. Yeah, I assumed that Rachel was also in the echelon. If she's paying for the flight or whatever, over her, I thought, oh, she must be a millionaire too. But she's just a normal job. Yeah. She's a person as opposed to millionaires. They're not people.

They're above people. They're better than people. Yeah. And I don't feel bad saying that. You think a millionaire is listening to this? Come on. That's probably a couple. They like to check in, see what the plebs are doing.

Oh, podcast. Right. Probably listening on a bloody gold-plated iPod. I assume that's the future of iPods. Yeah, one day. Must be, I don't know. One day they'll work out their gold technology. Once they were both back in New York, Rachel attempted many times to be reimbursed.

Each time met with different variations on the same excuse. Trust fund was tricky to access, slow to transfer, etc. So a month after their trip, Anna said she'd finally picked up a cashier check and were deposit it the next morning. But Rachel was understandably skeptical. And she wasn't taking any chances. So the next morning, she showed up at the Beekman, the hotel that Anna was staying in now, after she was evicted from 11 Howard.

So she went to Anna's room and asked for the check. She's like, come on, let's like, just give me the check. We can go deposit it together then. She's holding it gone as well. She doesn't say that in her own article, but it's implied. Yeah. So she waits while Anna's like, look, through papers, underneath clothes. Eventually, she's like, oh, I must have left it in the Tesla

I rented yesterday. Rachel writes, she called the Tesla dealership and then her lawyer's office. He must have it, she said. I refused to leave. Anna said the check would be dropped off, so I waited. I went with her to Le Cuckoo. It was the fancy restaurant, where she met with a different lawyer and a private wealth manager. I followed her back to the lobby in the beekman, where she ordered oysters and a bottle of white wine. I sat in silence, sending work emails from my phone, largely ignoring Anna, but keeping a watchful eye and asking periodically for an update. To prove a point, I stayed until 11pm. I left angrily telling her I'd be back at 8am so we could go together to the bank. In a huge surprise, when Rachel arrived for the next day, Anna was

gone. Rachel tried to dig a bit. She tried to find a way to contact Anna's parents. Couldn't find anything. Couldn't find anything about them. So she's continued to try, but she hasn't got her money back. August of that year, Rachel went to the police, but found that a bunch of different roadblocks were in her way. Issues with jurisdiction, given it happened in Morocco, plus the amount of money involved surpassed the financial limit dealt with in civil court. It's like, she went to the police and like, go to civil court. She goes to civil court and they're like, this is too much money for us to handle. Like, it's above the threshold. So feeling hopeless and distraught, Rachel received a call from the personal trainer. Anna had turned up at her apartment building, and Rachel and the trainer decided

to confront her. They're sort of doing like an intervention. They went to a restaurant and Anna was upset. It was the night before an article had come out in the New York Post calling Anna a wannabe socialite. She hadn't paid her $11,000 dollar bill at the Beekman, and she'd been kicked out with nothing. Her belongings had been detained. She was being charged with several misdemeanor offenses, including an embarrassing Dine and Dash incident. Like that's also what's. It's funny with that upper echelon is it like it's so embarrassing that the thing that's been talked about is that she did a runner at a restaurant. It's like you also haven't paid any bills at hotels.

What are you talking about? Oh, it's so embarrassing. They think I did a dine and dash. Oh, I didn't pay for my food at In and Out. Yeah. You know how Rachel had 400 bucks in her bank account? When that 67 grand was charged for her account, what happened? Like, wouldn't that have just bounced?

No, well, apparently not, which is wild to me as well that she was able. To that money somehow. Yeah, she was able to make a charge so big. I don't have a credit card anymore, but when I did, I think I was allowed to spend maybe five grand. I set my limit of 500 bucks just to be safe. Yeah, that's why I cleared mine and then cut it up. And I was like, no more.

Thank you. Yeah, because you don't trust yourself with these wannabe socialites that you hang around with. Totally. But yeah, you're right. It's completely wild that she was able to make a charge of like 60 grand. That's insane. So she owes nearly 70 grand, but not having the money to pay it off means that it would be, you know,

going up and up and up as well. Yeah. With fees and interest. And just the stress as well. That would be an awful feeling. Oh, that would ruin your whole lot. If you owe more than you earn in one year before tax. Holy crap.

Yeah. And their cop's like, sorry. Yeah. Oh, sorry. It was in Morocco. Which makes sense. It would be hard for, I mean, that's awful. Jeez.

I mean, it was, yeah, she's not coming off that well, Anna. I reckon she's, I reckon she's, I reckon she'll turn it all around. I reckon this art gallery is going to really take off and pay a few of these bills back. That's true. So throughout this whole confrontation, this little lunch they're having, Anna, she's refusing to come clean. She's, she sticks to her story. Nothing is her fault.

It's all a misunderstanding. you know, she's not like, they were like, we want to help you, but you have to tell us the truth. And she's like, this is the truth. She really sticks to it. So according to Rachel, the next day, she emailed the New York District Attorney's Office with a link to the article written about Anna and said, I think this girl is a con artist. And it turns out an assistant district attorney confirmed that Anna was the subject of an ongoing criminal investigation, which brings us back to where we started this report today with her arrest, October of 2017. The estimate of how much money she owed to banks, hotels, charter flight services and individuals is around

$275,000. Wow, but that's amazing that like such a big chunk of that is to someone who can't afford it. Yeah. 70 something, some 70-ish thousand dollars. Yeah. It feels like you'd be like, oh, well, she's ripped off a few big businesses. That feels somehow not as fucked. Yeah.

Even though it is obviously still fuck because businesses need to pay the bills too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you don't feel that bad about the bank. Yeah, the banks. You're like, oh no, bank, it doesn't have some money. Oh, no.

It's a little bit harder to feel sorry for the bank. Not for me. Yeah, Rachel and the bank to you. Very similar. Yeah, well, who cares about Rachel? Oh, the bank. You love the big four. Oh, love the big four.

Yeah, if it was up to you, you'd extend it, wouldn't you? I'd have a big five. Yeah. I'd invite one of the other ones up. I make my own bank. Banks. That's good. This world is built with banks, not with Rachel.

I am kidding. Of course. Yeah, but I think that's... Oh, my God. That's hopefully clear, but you never know. Well, with some of the messages we get, you do not know. Why'd you lie to us about that, Dave? Here's a few of my favourite points about her trial.

This is from Wiki. Sorokin's defense attorney Todd Spodec arranged for a professional stylist to source outfits for her court appearances, stating that it was imperative that Anne addressed appropriately for the trial. In response, the prosecutor said Sauriken showed more concern for her attire than the emotions of those she hurt and seemed to revel at the plight of her victims, which is a good burn. Yeah, that feels like that was really the wrong call, you know, going,

hey, just to make it clear, I've learnt nothing. Oh, 100%. No remorse. I'm still spending a lot of money on. Yeah, that's not painting yourself in a good line, is it? No, and it gets better. slash worse. Still from Wiki, on the Friday of the trial, Sorokin refused to enter the courtroom because she didn't want to appear in her prison-issued clothing and her civilian outfit for the day

had not been pressed. Oh, no. Oh my God. She may as well be wearing a hesson sack. Didn't want to wear her prison clothes because yuck, not my colour. And I had a cute outfit here, but it needs an iron. Incredible. This is not humane. I know. The judge ordered Sorokin to appear stating this is a trial, she is a defendant in a criminal case. I'm sorry if her clothing is not up to her standards, but she's got to be here. A bit of a hot take there from the judge. Wouldn't have expected that. I would have thought they'd be like, no, fair enough.

Of course. I won't appear. You think I like wearing these robes and this silly wig? I look like a fool. So I don't wonder if her lawyers are also con artists. They're not really lawyers. They sound like they don't know what they're doing. Kind of all deserve each other, hey.

Yeah, you think the lawyers would be like, hey, it doesn't look good for you if you piss the judge off by not coming in because your clothes aren't pressed. That's not going to go well for you. You think that they'd give her advice later. And yeah, these lawyers are they going, oh, she's paying me quite a lot for this. She hasn't got the money at the moment. It's going to be wired to me. Yeah, that's right. There's been a few problems. Obviously, she's got to access the trust account. The judge is like, have you read anything about this case? Oh, no, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, no.

But yeah, I've got the vibe. Yeah. She's rich and she needs help. She's rich. She's showing me documents saying that she's rich. Have you seen her glasses? They're expensive. She slid a piece of paper across the table and I had a number on it that I liked.

Yeah. And like since she was arrested in October of 2017, you know how these sort of court cases can be very drawn out? She was in, like, she was being held in prison for like 18 months or something. Oh, that's not she was being held because it can be traumatic. going to jail. So it is nice that they offer them. It's nice. Yeah. I said, did you want... Just to be held for a bit...

Just as they're checking them in, as they're checking them in to jail, they say, now you prefer big spoon, little spoon. And if you say a little spoon, they match up with a big spoon, which is nice. That's beautiful. That's quite cute. So in April of 2019, after deliberating for two days, a jury found Sorokin guilty of eight charges, including grand larceny in the second degree,

attempted grand larceny and theft of services. Sorokin was found not guilty to two other charges, one sort of relating to one of the original loans with Citibank, and one of larceny in the second degree, which was the $62,000 from Rachel Williams. So she was found not guilty of that. Oh, shit. Yeah.

Does that mean that Rachel has no way of getting the money going? No, I'll update you on what happens for Rachel as well. So in May of 2019, Sorokin was given a sentence of four to 12 years. years in state prison. She was fined $25,000 in order to pay restitution of about $199,000. So paying most of it back. Obviously, that would be quite easy because she kind of family trust. So just get your daddy to pay it. Yeah, so what, yeah, how does she do that?

It doesn't seem to have a job. Yeah. Hard to earn a living in jail. Yeah, penny a day for the next billion years and you'll be right. You'll be right. So Jessica Presler interviewed Anna in prison and wrote, This place is not that bad at all, actually, Anna told me, eyes sparkling behind her saline glasses.

People seem to think it's horrible, but I see it as like this sociological experiment. She's a psycho. She's made friends, of course. The murderers were the most interesting to her. There are a couple of girls who are in financial crimes as well, she told me. This one girl, she's been stealing other people's identities. I didn't realize it was so easy.

She's honestly a freaking psychopath. But, I mean, it was. for you. Yeah, you didn't struggle that much. In total, she served just under four years and was released in February of last year, 2021. In March, she was taken back into custody by immigration and customs enforcement, ICE, for overstaying her visa. And since April of last year, she's been held in a New Jersey County Jail awaiting deportation to Germany. The latest I read was she was still there as as of September of last year. So that's sort of where she's at for now. In 2019, she sold the rights to her story to Netflix and Shonda Rhymes, which is the series I mentioned in the

question, inventing Anna. It actually comes out next month. And the New York Attorney General's office sued Sorican in 2019 using the state's son of Sam law, which prohibits those convicted of a crime from profiting from its publicity. So she sold the rights, and I think they were paying something like 140 grand for the rights to her story. But that money was then frozen and like given back to the banks. Amazing. I wonder if Netflix's that because I'm like, it's kind of, it's kind of fucked Netflix going, hey, hey, you, you who ripped off a lot of people? Let's give you a bunch of cash, but maybe Netflix was like, I don't think she knows the son

of Sam law. We'll give this money. This will help pay back some of the people that she ripped off. Yeah, and then we don't feel bad about making a mini-series about her making millions of dollars when all we had to pay was 140. As for Rachel, and I know Matt, you've been very concerned about Rachel and her well-being, the credit card company forgave a bulk of her debt. though she was still required to pay back some of the expenses incurred.

But she also wrote and published a book called My Friend Anna, released in 2019, and HBO acquired the rights to that story. Sick. Love that. She's fine. It's very interesting too because there's a few, like a few YouTube clips I saw where she was being interviewed on different shows. And everyone in the YouTube comments are just calling her an opportunist. Rachel?

Yeah. Well, I mean, like, it's kind of interesting. The way she talks about Anna, she's sort of like, yeah, she was pretty, like, she could be kind of rude and abrupt, but she paid for stuff. So, you know, like Anna treated her to meals and took her to this personal trainer and, you know, like she, yeah, it was, it was good to be Anna's friend because you got heaps of free shit and got to go to fancy places. Right. And then afterwards doing a lot of press where you told your story to people as well. I think, well, I mean, you can, sure, if you want to judge her for being a mooture off a rich person, okay.

But I think as soon as she's in debt to more money than she earns, I feel like surely she's allowed to try and make some money from this awful experience. Yeah. I mean, imagine you just wouldn't sleep or anything. That would be on your head, on your mind all the time. And it's a pretty wild story. And once, like, press is picking it up and wanting to interview people about it. and you were good friends with this person,

and there's the angle of her, like, ripping you off as well. Then you're a talent that those sorts of shows want, and they'll pay you to be on the show. So, yeah, like, of course. Of course you'd do it. I feel, yeah, I feel like that's a bit, maybe a bit harsh to judge her. It felt a little sexist as well, to be honest.

Sexist. Can't believe. Wait, she's a woman? Felt like a lot of people be like, well, this idiot, you know, and it's like, okay. Okay, Brad 69. Calling her an idiot and an opportunist is almost like the opposite as well. Calling her an opportunist is sort of just saying she's cunning and smart.

Yeah. Which one is it? Brad 69. That's a good point. This guy we've made up. But we're bad at him. Oh, here we go. Check out this Brad 69 guy.

Which one is it, Brad? Which one is it? What a dog. I hate. Honestly, fuck this guy. Brad 69, you can get fucked. You can fuck yourself. 69 yourself, Brad,

they suck your own dick, Brad. I know you've tried, Brad. Can you do that? That's awesome, Brad. That's pretty cool, Brad. Brad, can you show me? Give us some tips. Well, let's not talk now, but yeah, off pod, Brad.

If you could hit me up. D.M.E. Was it a rib removal thing, Brad? Brad, look, honestly, no, don't say now, Brad. But anyway, I'll, yeah, I'll pass on my details and we'll chat later. Pass them on now so he can contact you. What's your phone number?

Matt 69. 1-800, Matt 69. Nice. Yeah, it's a pretty cool. There's been a lot of talk about Rachel, but we've got to ask, what happened to the real victims? The banks.

The banks. The banks. Well, it seems like they got back a bit of their money, which is good. But, you know, I think city bank is fine. I think they're still going strong. So all along. The big four here, so.

No, that's true. all along Anna has stuck to her story, so she didn't do anything wrong. Upon her release, she was pretty much straight back into her bougie lifestyle, straight back into posting on social media. She's shown no remorse. Like the posts that she made, I think the latest one, what I looked at the other day, it was like 43 weeks ago. So it's obviously in that little brief period where she was released.

But she was so arrogant, and people were commenting and being like, you are so arrogant. Like, fuck off. Which is pretty funny, I guess. Got a look her up. Got to look her up. It's pretty great. So if she just left America and went back to Germany or Russia

and then sold her Netflix rights from there, I'm guessing then America couldn't have got the money back of it, or could they have? I don't really know. It just sounds like she's obviously she's also quite naive. Like these lawyers she's got representing her didn't give her good advice about, you know, you'd think you'd get someone who knows what they're doing involved in a deal with Netflix worth hundreds of thousands.

Yeah, you would hope so. But it makes sense. I reckon that's what Brad would have done. She shouldn't have made money off it. You know, it's sort of like Wolfram Wall Street becoming quite successful afterwards and you're like, the fuck? Yeah, well, that's the thing.

She won't be able to make that money, but I don't know if there's a statute of limitations on the son of Samuels or something. She'll end up doing like speaking to us and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If these shows get really popular. Yeah. Yeah, so it's, and she'd love that.

And she ends up being wealthy in the end anyway. Yeah. And rich people like, geez, you really fucked us up. But if we can see that you actually have money now, we'll forgive you. Yeah, that'll be fine. Oh, you've got money now? Let's do lunch. Okay, sorry, the pars in the past.

You're not poor anymore. Welcome back. Just finally, an article for ABC News asks, so what's next for Anna Sorokin? She says, I guess it remains to be seen. I'm just trying to rewrite my. story. Yeah. So we'll see.

She's only 30. She's probably going to get booted back to Germany, but we'll see what she does while she's over there. But she claims that none of it is a lie, that she is a German millionaire. Is that what she still thinks? I think, I don't know what she has said about, like, her real, you know, upbringing and past, but the sort of the way, like, she would sort of say that she was legit and, and And some people sort of said, if she was successful, if she got this foundation up and running,

is she could have easily made all the money back to like... Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Potentially. But, I mean, that's, I guess that's a big if. Yeah, okay, you can say that about anyone. If you were successful, you could be a millionaire too. Yeah.

If you were successful. Is that an option for me? Or you got to be successful, that's all, that's the only thing's holding you back. You know, when I was saying she said, what I meant to say before, was corn huskers. Okay, corn huskers. And they're from Lincoln, Nebraska. But in the film, Yes Man, Jim Carrey catches a plane to Lincoln, Nebraska.

And that's what I was thinking when he said, Omaha, Nebraska. And he goes to a football game, and he's in the crowd face painted with corn husks on his arms. Okay, there you go. Great movie. I reckon it's underrated that film. Yeah, it's a bit of fun. That was a little glimpse into the mind of Matt Stewart. Yeah.

How it all works. Welcome in. Welcome in to the play. playground was zeitgeist. But that was my report on Anna Delvey slash Anna Sorokin. Great report, Jess. I'd never heard of that.

So that's very, very cool. I'm very glad you had it. Because if you had and you're like, oh yeah, then there wouldn't be any kind of, there would be no reveal. Yeah, did you know of her before you did the report? Yeah. So the article on the part,

the one Jessica Presler wrote, I read that a couple of years ago, to be honest, I think I was doing a mid-dawn at five-hour overnight shift at Triple J where you play a lot of music and only have to talk every 15 minutes or so. So I was just reading that article in between songs. And it took me ages because it's quite a long, great article. And yeah, it's really good. So I was aware, I think if one of you had done the report and said,

I might not have remembered the name or it would have been familiar, but I knew the story. So I knew it was going to be a fun one. Oh, and I forgot to mention as well, sorry, that that was suggested by a couple of people. It was suggested by, I've got Marie and Kaylee Borelli, both suggested that. So thank you very much. That's awesome.

Yeah, it's an interesting tale. Yeah. Tale of woe. Can I say that? I think you can. I feel like it's a cautionary tale that if you're going to lie about being rich, just don't go too far. Yeah.

And try not to rip off Rachel. Even if you think she's mooching. Yeah. You really feel for this, Rachel. She feels like the main victim in this, doesn't she? I mean, you're right. The banks were, they also did it tough. Hotels. Yeah, the hotels.

Yeah, the people in Morocco. Yeah. Okay. There's a lot of people who did it tough. Rachel was just the name I remembered. All right, that was a great report. Thank you so much, Jess, for taking the time to tell us that tale. But that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show

where we thank a bunch of our great supporters. If you want to be a supporter, you can get involved at patreon.com slash do-go-onpod or do-go-onpod.com. There's many different rewards. You get bonus episodes, three per month on a certain level or above. You get to help vote for topics.

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You get to hear about the live shows before anyone else. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But what we like to do first, this is one of the rewards you get for supporting, is being involved in the fact quote or question section. And this section actually has a little jingle. I think you go something like this. Fact quote or question. Nothing.

I always remembers the ding. Now, to be involved in this one, you sign up on the Sydney-Shaunberg level or above, and you get to give us a fact, a quote of a question, you also get to give yourself a title. I don't read these out until I read them out. Since last week's episode, I've been feeling guilty about calling David Molloski, his quote, having a real virgin energy. I've been thinking about that most days. I apologize David officially.

I meant no harm by that. It was a really fun fact about Stanley. holding a breast. Anyway, moving on, I just saw that because I'm looking at the last week's one, and I've genuinely been thinking, I'm like, can I message David? Would that be too full on to go, hey, David, I don't know if you'd caught the episode,

but it was a little joke. Hopefully, anyway, so this week, the first fact quota question comes from a first time, I believe, in the fact quota question section, Betsy. And Betsy is given herself the title of O-Thinker Extraordinaire. And, well, I think I just proved that I am with you there, Betsy. So true.

So Betsy's asking a question. And I read these out on the show, so no one's heard of him yet. So apologies, David Jess, if you need time to think about this because you don't have any time. The question is, what is your earliest memory? Betsy has also, looks like they've gone on to answer their own. own question. So I can read that out now while you think, if you like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Betsy, right, since I know Matt likes us to answer our own questions, my earliest memory is from when I was three, and my sister accidentally closed two of my fingers into a door. I had been following

her from the backyard into the garage, so nobody found me until I had long since given up on crying, and my fingertips were flat and black. Oh, don't worry, they healed up just fine. Holy shit, Betsy. Oh my God, Betsy. That is a brutal first memory. I can see why your brain's held onto it, though. Oh. It would be hard to forget.

That's hectic. I'm trying to think first marriage. It's a little bit easier for me because we moved a few times when I was young. So I know any memories from Cainton were from the first five years. Oh, yeah, that's nice. So, yeah, I've got a bunch of memories there. My friend Nicholas, he had like a, a, sort of a hedgy bush thing at the front of his house.

And I remember, it must have been so small because I've gone back to visit this house in the years since, but we used to climb up inside it. Like it was, there was somehow a hollowing inside it. So we could climb in and poke out the top of it. That's got to be one of my earliest memories, I reckon. That's a much nicer memory than Betsy's. Yeah.

My earliest is. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. No, that's right. My earliest is. I was just going to go through some other, equally exciting cotton memories, but I think that's probably enough, Bob.

What was yours? You get one edge. So there's a slight delay. There's also a slight delay between Jess and us. So every time I've talked over in this episode, it's not because I'm a bad feminist, because we all know I'm the best feminist of this podcast. Yeah. That's because of the delay.

Also, I need to be heard. Yeah, well, basically, it's the delay because Matt's stuck in the 1960s. Yeah, that's the delay. Yeah, free love. Everyone, hey, equality, isn't that? That's my 60s. Sure thing, madman. It's a good time to be stuck. Anyway, Jess, you may now speak. My is just a very, very vague first memory.

I think I was probably like, yeah, two or three. And I was standing by the fridge in our old house as my parents must have had people over. there was just, I can just remember, like, adult legs walking past me lots. Like, there was lots of people around, and I was just kind of a corner, like, I think I feel, the memory feels like I was trying to go into the living room, but it was sort of waiting for a gap. Like, I was waiting for traffic to stop so I could go in, so I'm sort of just waiting by the fridge. That's my, that's my earliest memory. That's fun.

Sounds like an episode of Rugrats or something. Maybe it was. Maybe that's what I'm remembering. Maybe I'm remembering Rugrats. Early's memories. His Rugrats. My name was Tommy as a baby, right? That's great.

That must have been really early. I think, oh, guys, it's so hard. I've definitely got a bunch from early preschool. I remember being in the sandpit, but I can't pinpoint that exactly. And I can't think if this memory is something, it's a real memory or if I, you know, replanted in my mind somehow.

But I had a teddy bear that was my favorite bear called blue bear. I guess it's color? Green. Blue. It was blue. Sorry, Jess, you were wrong. And Blue Bear, I was left at the park one day and was lost forever. And I remember being sad about that.

Blue Bear! But then only about five years ago when I was 25, I was talking about this with my parents about how sad it was. And then we replaced it with a panda bear. And that became my family all came around with different teddy bears to try and replace Blue Bear. And friends and stuff. We went through about 40 bears until I got to Panda. But the Blue Bear... I thought it'd just been lost at the park.

And then I was about 25 and my dad goes, oh, no, we never told you. But I went back to the park to find Blue Bear, and I'd found that some local kids had set it on fire. I think best not to tell you that. I didn't know that until I was like 25. Sorry, what? That's so good.

That's really funny. Thank you very much for that question, Betsy. The next one comes from Katie Murphy, who's given herself the title of Podcast Stage Manager. Oh, we need that. We need that. Katie does fine work by the stage at our live shows. And Katie has a question as well. Katie writes, hey team, long time, no see.

It has been a while. I guess that's because of... Because less live shows than usual. Yeah, that's right. And I believe that Katie, because I follow Katie on Instagram, actually does a lot of stage managing now. So she's out there doing lots of theatre work. Yes. We appreciate that, but it probably is harder to come to our shows if you're doing shows.

Exactly. Katie writes, question today. What have been your favourite show slash acting roles? I know you've all had various experiences with drama and telly and would love to hear what some of your highlights have been. While you're thinking, if there's room for me to answer my own question, of course there is Katie, please. And also brag a little. Oh, I love that.

We love a brag. I've had the privilege of working on nine shows in the last year. My favourite would have to be my public transport theme sketch comedy, Law and Order PTV. That's public transport Victoria, right? Is that what PTVs? And the show I co-produced with Melbourne Drag Queen, Isis Avis Lauren, ballads and ball gowns.

Hope you've all had a lovely holiday season and to see you at some shows this year. Much love Katie. Thank you very much, Katie. What do you reckon? What's your, Dave? I'm guessing yours was that ad you did for a bank. Was that a bank ad or an accounting firm ad?

No, recently I did an ad for an accounting firm. How dare you? I knew Jess would be furious when I got the gig. Yeah, but I also, you know, I love to support you. So every time it comes on TV, I'm so proud. It probably is, I just found this to be a funny moment. In the ad for that, it's like a parody of a sort of game show type thing, but the theme is tax.

And I had lots of stuff thrown at me and they had a cannon that fired receipts into my face or whatever. But because of that, they had to have a safety officer on set who after every set had to come around. David, just want to check, is everything okay? You're feeling okay. On a scale of 1 to 10, you've got a net on you, 10 being a horrific pain, one being no pain.

How are you feeling right now? You would have felt really cherished. Yeah, like I was doing like some sort of crazy action stunts, but really I was having dodge balls thrown at me, but because of health and safety. That's great. That's nice. Good that they're checking in.

Yeah, yeah. It was honestly like, yeah, like I was on the set of James Bond or something, but really I was not. How about you, Bopper? Oh, wait, that wasn't even your answer. Yeah, that's my answer. Great.

That's fine. I don't know. I don't think I've done all that many. I've done some Sammy J stuff that's been very fun just because Sammy J is such a delight to work with. Oh, okay. It's a toss-up between. my very blink and you miss it spot on why you like this and it was the best because I got

to hang out with my friend Naomi all day but also because I got to carry a pug who's hell yeah. He was the best and so that was fun. He was quite heavy though. And so when you've got to do it over and over again, Pedy, you know, weighs you down. But another was, and I don't even, I can tell this, it's fine. One of the semi-J sketches I did, Broden was also in it. and we're just sort of mucking around, having a good time.

There was a bunch of extras as well who just sort of had to walk on at the end. And Broden kept sort of, he's always incredibly nice of it, but he kept joking that they were probably fans of his. He was just like, we were just mucking around. He was like, I'll probably some fans over there, and I was rolling my eyes. And then at the end, as we're wrapping up, somebody, one of them came up to him and asked for a photo, and I was like, fuck!

They were fans. That's so funny. Brod and Kelly from our Auntie Donner. Oh, Matt, we should say under the Milky Way because did you remember how many times we had to do one scene because I kept laughing at you saying Nasser? Nasta. Nasta.

That was a lot of fun. That was such a... Yeah, anything with Shane Dunlop is always great fun. From Jim. Who the beer pioneering show was his. But this question is more about acting than presenting. I'm trying, I also had a great time on Naomi's show playing a farmer who collected jizz.

No, something about either collecting jizz from bulls or inserting jizz in a cows or something like that. Great fun. The first take, I, everyone was like, oh, fuck. And they're like, that was, sorry, that's not at all what we're intending it. That was, it was very creepy. that read I'm so sorry

I'm like it was so funny I'm like yeah I don't know what I was doing there I'm really sorry and then apparently from the next take I had it but the first one you could sort of see the panic in their face like oh shit I don't think he's gonna be able to do this

but were you even the best thing would have been if you'd been like oh that wasn't meant to be creepy oh that's just how I am I just wasn't thinking about it enough and I was just sort of I wasn't thinking about the word and how my, like, I was being too animated in the face when I was meant to be quite straight.

But, yeah, anyway. But, yeah, what was I, I did this pilot for Jude Pearl wrote a pilot. Yep. And I just had this small role as, like, she was a musician or whatever. And in it I was, like, just a studio tech. And it was just a really fun shoot. But, yeah, I mean, there's so many, I just love doing all those things. They're always great fun.

Anything we have, Monroe Smith, of course. that she will, she is always great fun as well. What a delight. Thank you so much for that question, Katie. Good to hear from you once again. The next one comes from Kelly Clark, who's given herself the title of promoter, Dan Ju Call in Walking Together.

And Kelly has offered a suggestion, which is check out Danjuk-a-orlini.com slash about, spelled D-A-N-J-O-O-K, A.O-O-R-L-I-N-Y.com slash about. And the artwork at kelviebird.com slash danjuk-O-L-L-E-R, sorry, no art at the end of that. Just kelv-Bird.com slash danjuk-O-L-V-Y-Bird.com slash danjuk-O-O-L-L-E, as I just said. And read and see ways of bringing the best of indigenous First Nations and, and, Waipella, aka Whitefeller,

knowledges and ways of being and doing. Yeah, good tip. I obviously, because I'm reading it now, having a chance to have a look at it, but I will check that out after we finish recording today. Thank you very much, Kelly, for that suggestion. We love a suggestion. Don't get that many.

No, not many suggestions. And I'll try and remember, remind me, Kelly, but I'll do a post maybe from our social media for people to check that out as well. And finally, from Jessica English. aka maritime lawyer, slight delay on International Waters project, I've been captured by pirates.

And here we are laughing, but Jessica's been captured by pirates. Sorry, Jessica. Legit crime for help and we're like, how funny. I love that. You've got, the pirates give you one phone call, and she's, I assume that, you know, they're pirates, but they're not assholes.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, they're bound by international law, of course. So she used her one phone call on entering a fact quote or question. In this case, a fact. And here is the fact. During the Kangaroo Kicker episode, I was screaming at my iPod. Okay, there you go. Jessica has an iPod.

Because when Matt randomly brought up hot dogs, I had a fun fact linking hot dogs and Madison, Wisconsin, which is where the episode mainly took place. And this is it, I'm guessing. the Oscar Meyer Weiner Mobile Headquarters are in Madison, Wisconsin, and the WienerMobile makes frequent stops on the campus. That is a fun fact. And I love the idea of a mobile headquarters.

Yeah. I really also enjoy that you're captured by pirates, and you just got to get this fun fact. I've got to tell you something. Is it shaped like a weiner? I think that, if I'm picturing it, I think that is. I wonder if it's like the one that was used in, Simpsons.

No, that's that Netflix sketch show. Oh, I think you should leave. Oh, my God. A great sketch. Anyone could have driven this. I guess we'll never know. Great sketch. Great sketch.

Look at him. He's dressed like a leaner. And the guy looks down in himself, oh no. Anyway, check that out. If you haven't seen, I think you should leave. That's a very funny show. Thank you so much for those questions, suggestions, and facts from Jessica.

Katie and Betsy. Now we do something we like to shout out to a few of our great supporters who are on the shoutout level or above, obviously. Bob normally comes up with a game somehow related to the show's topic. Tricier one, isn't it? Who are they going to rip off? Yeah, it could just be a fake name. Yeah, fake name.

A wealthy sounding name though. Wealthy sounding fake name. Fantastic. Well, may I kick it off? Yes. All right. Let me just double check. What's the country E, E, E?

Oh, it's Estonia. Oh, wow, okay. Tellin is the capital. From Tallinn in Estonia, I'd love to thank Abraham Ifit. Abraham If it's already like a, yeah, it's a pretty wealthy name. I think all we need to do is actually change one thing. Okay. Well, isn't that what Anna did?

Exactly. Her birth name was Anna, yeah. We can give people a completely new name if they need it. If they need it. Please take no offense if we're saying your whole name doesn't. sound wealthy? I mean, if they need it. Maybe take it as a compliment. But I think

in Abraham's case, if we just add Abraham Vaughn Eiffitt, what are they doing that? I am absolutely giving that man my life savings. As long as he writes down something on a piece of paper and says, no, it's legit, then I'm in. Thank you so much

Abraham von Eiffitt. I'd also love to thank from Vermont South here in Melbourne, Australia. Until this moment, seeing it written down, I never realized that Vermont and Vermont are the same spelling. Holy shit. We just say them differently. My favorite state, Vermont.

Yeah, and we're not saying it wrong. It's Vermont here. Vermont. Well, we may be saying it wrong. I just wanted to save us the messages. Yeah, that's fair. It is interesting. It's like, yeah, so many, the locals often, I reckon, say their own place names wrong.

Yeah. Like we say Melbourne, and it's clearly not Melbourne. Melbourne. From Vermont South, it is Jimmy the Bob. Jimmy Le Bob. That's better. That's better. What about Jimmy LeBob the third?

That just finished off. Oh, yeah. We're talking about Bob Log the third last week's episode. Jimmy LeBobbob the third. Love that. And finally from me, from Endicott in New York State, United States, Will Bedoya. Oh my God, I love that name.

Bedoya. It sounds like you're asking a question, doesn't it? It sounds like... Will Bedoya? It kind of sense, to me, it sounds a bit on a matter of payic somehow. Bedoya. Like, it's something... It's a sound of like bouncing a ball

onto the ground, onto the wall and back to you. Badoia. Badoia. Yeah, you're absolutely right. You're in a rhythm and you're just throwing it. You know, and you're in that little cell. Badoia. What do you call it?

The Great Escape. Yeah. I'm in solitary. Bedoya. Bedoya. But you know you're right, Will Bedoya? Quit the bedoya in there. Will Bedoya?

You're proposing to someone? Will Bedoya? Will you bedoya me? No, that sounds like you want them to fuck you. All right. Sorry, Will. Anything we can add to that to make an even more fancy. Winston.

You went from Will to Winston. Well, I'm actually trying. trying to change the name. He's chosen to shorten from William and you're going, no, disagree. Winston. Winston. Winston.

Will Beddoyen. Will Bedoyen Ray Munshton. Ray Munshton. That sounds pretty fancy. I mean, I've made his name worse, but Winston Bedoyan Raymungsten. Wow, I'll give that man my money. I said with less confidence each time. Dave, do you want to thank a few?

Yes, please. I would like to thank from location unknown. We can only assume deep within the fortress of the miles. Deep within the fortress as we broadcast throughout the fortress. A big shout out to Farhad al-Thani. Thank you so much to Farhard Al-Thani. I mean, why do we think we can improve on our listeners' names? These have, we've made them all worse.

I'm already investing all my savings with Far Hard Al-Tharni. Yeah. What about, what, I did the last one so well. Let's just do this one. What about, I've got nothing. My brain is fried. What about Far Hard, Alastair Trombly-Burtchall. Tharney.

Oh, Tharney. Yes. I think Alistair Trombly Virtual does have a very... Man, I'm investing with that guy. Fancy sounding name. That's why, you know, Ronnie Chang's show, he had like a kind of pompous character and his show was about being on a university campus. Oh, yeah, yeah.

The placeholding name was Trumbly Burtle for that guy. And then they never thought of anything more fancy. So the character's name is someone Trumbly Burtle. Did Elle play the character? No. Al did not get the part. We'll take your name. We want a Tromley Birtual type character.

Yeah. But we don't want Al. Far hard, Alistair, Trumbly, Bertual, Thani. Thank you so much. That's good. I would like to thank now from Monaghan in Ireland. It's Paul McNally. That's where my family's from.

Oh, is it possible that is the Perkins side of the family? No. The other side, the Pearson side. Oh, could you make Paul McNally an honorary Pearson? Yes. Paul McPherson. Oh, that's a good name. I like that.

Esquire, yes. Paul McPherson, Esquire. That's good. That's good. Hey, yeah, thank you so much. And welcome to the family, Paul. McPherson, Esquire. Last one from you, Davey Boy.

Finally from Great Britain, I would like to thank from St Albans, Sam Pears. Do you reckon that's named after our St. Orban's? Yeah, influential. It's also the same as Pears. Sam Pears. Yeah, you're absolutely right. That's interesting. Could be Pears.

It looks like Pears. What about Sammy Banana? Oh, yeah, that's great. That sounds like a rich, like a Vegas act. Yeah, hey, hey, I'm Sunni Banana. He's eccentric. Frilly sleeves. Yeah.

Maybe does magic as well as... He always has Maracas in his hands. Yeah. He's the Moroccan magician. Oh, that's good. And he only travels in a white limo and he's always hanging out the sunroof. The driver's like, this is very dangerous, Sammy. He has the record for the longest running Vegas residency because people keep coming to see him.

That sounds like that. I mean, we're talking about wealth. That's a license to print money. Some bananas. Sorry, Sam. Jess, would you like to thank a few? Yes, please. I would love to thank.

No, please, you do not apologize to Sam. You gave him a gift. That was Dave. But, yeah. I would love to thank from Portland, M.E. Maryland? Yeah. Portland. No.

Maine, maybe? You keep talking. I'll look it up. I would love to thank surname unknown, Lee. Lee. It is Maine. Lee from Maine. The most eastern state in the continental.

Yeah. Great fact. As was the question I asked to get us onto the topic. That's why I remember it. The Stranger episode, I think. Getting that question right was one of my proudest moments. Well done. Lee.

Lee, obviously, not heaps to work with, but that means we can also build on a lot here. Yeah. Lee is so close to Slay. Like, so Slay, stretch limo sleigh. So I'm picturing like a winter. Now, I know we turn all the other people into rich humans. I'm turning Lee into a rich eccentric mode of transport.

Oh, wow. Stretch, limo, sleigh. Okay. They have rich people in there. them, which is, I mean, everyone else is one rich person. Lee is now, you know, a vessel for multiple rich people at once. Wow. Imagine if you had like four billionaires in you, like, how rich are you?

Do you what I mean? That adds up. Yeah. It's happened to me once before, but it was a long time ago, and I hardly even remember the feeling anymore. But I recall it being pretty good. That was a big night out. That was a big night.

Fantastic night out. And I would also like to thank from Perth in Western Australia, Holly Bradley. Holly Bradley, another fantastic name. I'm just going to go with a full. I mean, I love it and I don't think we can improve on it. So I'm just going to go from a whole different perspective here. Just spitballing. Billumthropic cranium gold.

Oh, okay. No, I feel like that could be their business. Philanthropic cranium gold. That isn't it amazing when you just sort of zone out your mind what it can come up with? Yeah, for sure. You're in the zeit guys. You're in the zone. The philanthropic cranium gold.

And amazingly, you've somehow pulled some cranium gold from within yourself. I know. I don't know how I did it. I could never do that consciously. I had to just go deep in the subconscious. And once Holly hands over their business card that just says philanthropic cranium gold, I reckon the banks can give them whatever Holly wants. And finally, Papa.

From Aberdeen. Hannah Love Day. Oh, that is a, I'm like, this is maybe the best batch of names I've ever had. Hannah Love Day. Yeah. Absolutely amazing. Which makes me think of Lovely Day, that Bill Withers song. Is there something there?

That's a good song. Anna Withers. Anna Good Song Withers. Because that sounds like they're an older person who, who succumb from a lot of money and they've been in money their whole life. Yeah, that's old money. That's a seriously old money.

Withers. Yeah. Good song withers. Someone who has a nickname like Good Song. That's Old Money. That's old money. That's mahogany. You can feel it.

Rich. Thank you so much to Hannah Holly Lee, Sam, Paul, Farhard, Will, Jimmy and Abraham. What about your name. It's fantastic. Thank you so much for your support. Finally, the last thing we need to do is welcome some people.

into our Triptage Club. Only two inductees this week. If you want to get involved in the Triptage Club, you've just got to be signed up on the shoutout level or above for three straight years. Once you're in, you're in for life. This is an exclusive club, much like the kind of thing I reckon that Anna Delvey would have come up with

if she had her time over. Yeah. Now, normally, I'm standing at the door. I've got the guest list. and that's exactly how it's happening today as well. I'm going to lift up the velvet rope. I'm going to read out a couple of names. Dave's going to hype him out.

He's on the stage. Everyone else is already in there chanting your name as well, okay? Dave's got a band book for the after party. Hell yeah. We've got Steve Martin, but he's not doing comedy. He's doing the bluegrass stuff. Oh, great. On the banjo.

Awesome. Love to hear it. He won't be able to help himself from doing a little banter in between. I'm sure in between. It would be a bit of fun. Jess, what is the Anna Delvey cocktail that you're serving behind the bar this one? I'll tell you it's expensive.

It's all from top shelf. And we'll get it to you later, promise. But pay now, pay now. Pay now. But, so, yeah, this week's going to be a lot of lobster, a lot of fine dining, oysters, top shelf champagny. Oh. Yeah, we're going all out, and we are going to bankrupt the Trip Ditch Club,

but it's going to be worth it. Fantastic. Well, let us induct the two names here. Dave will hype them up. is your hype man. Jess is hyping up Dave. Every hot man needs their own hype man. So, first up from Brunswick in Victoria, Australia.

Dominic Stevenson. Oh, Dominic, my heart. Yes, you steal my heart. Yes, Nicket. Nick is good. That's for you. That's for you, Dom. The Dominator.

And from Kingston in Ontario, Canada, Mitch Nashim. Oh, the king is here. Kingston. Yes. Kingston is here. That's right. Welcome in. Mitch and Dominic.

Make yourselves at home. Enjoy the fine, fine work of Steve Martin. And yeah, that brings to the end of episode. Thanks so much everyone for joining. Anything we need to tell people, Jess, before we go? Just that we love them. Yeah. We appreciate them.

We hope they're looking after themselves, you know, eating some veggies. And if you need to find us or contact us, you can find us at Do Go On Pod across all social media. Do GoonPod at gmail. or our website, do go onpod.com. Beautiful. So good. Dave.

Boot this baby home. Yeah, get in contact with us at any time. We'd love to hear some suggestions for topics for upcoming weeks because we are not stopping. We're absolutely not stopping. No one can stop us. Not even isolation baby. We're doing this.

We are doing this. Isolation baby, you dastard, you will not stop us. Oh, sorry, Philist. We probably only talk about it off-pod, but there is an isolation baby in Australia who goes around it and enforces isolation. Oh, I don't think we should talk about the isolation baby. We probably shouldn't.

Does it with a wrap. I'm the isolation baby and I'm here to say, stay inside your house. Or I'll kill your cat, you know. It's pretty aggressive, actually, yeah. Full on, the isolation baby is really awful. A bit of a dick, actually. I'm terrified.

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